IoT Coffee Talk: Episode 250 - 5 More Years! (Live from Edge AI Foundation Austin 2025)

one one [Music] 250 awesome awesome that's awesome yes 250 awesome awesome that's awesome yes welcome everyone to I coffee welcome everyone to I coffee welcome everyone to I coffee talk it's good to be back excited to be talk it's good to be back excited to be talk it's good to be back excited to be here yeah here yeah here yeah absolutely we we have a little absolutely we we have a little absolutely we we have a little contingent here down in Austin yeah so contingent here down in Austin yeah so contingent here down in Austin yeah so thought we'd all gather here on the thought we'd all gather here on the thought we'd all gather here on the couch that makes sense that makes sense couch that makes sense that makes sense couch that makes sense that makes sense there's a lot of contingents in Austin there's a lot of contingents in Austin there's a lot of contingents in Austin these days a lot of contingence a lot of these days a lot of contingence a lot of these days a lot of contingence a lot of contingency plans you know oh yeah I contingency plans you know oh yeah I contingency plans you know oh yeah I just realized we don't even have a just realized we don't even have a just realized we don't even have a coffee though but coffee though but coffee though but uh not even one Leonard's on Pacific uh not even one Leonard's on Pacific uh not even one Leonard's on Pacific Time so he's got exactly wow so today is your birthday so exactly wow so today is your birthday so is that just because to honoring our is that just because to honoring our is that just because to honoring our 250th episode I love that I can't 250th episode I love that I can't 250th episode I love that I can't believe we're all still here together believe we're all still here together believe we're all still here together you know unbelievable you know you're you know unbelievable you know you're you know unbelievable you know you're saying Leonard is 250 years old that's saying Leonard is 250 years old that's saying Leonard is 250 years old that's in Internet years in Internet years

in Internet years in Internet years in Internet years in Internet years that's what the stats said that said the that's what the stats said that said the that's what the stats said that said the cobal program is sending him Social cobal program is sending him Social cobal program is sending him Social Security checks at age 250 so yeah Security checks at age 250 so yeah Security checks at age 250 so yeah that's what we out I don't know they that's what we out I don't know they that's what we out I don't know they might they might all get cut they might might they might all get cut they might might they might all get cut they might the budget cuts they didn't initialize the budget cuts they didn't initialize the budget cuts they didn't initialize the birthday value correctly you know so the birthday value correctly you know so the birthday value correctly you know so you got to watch out for that stuff you got to watch out for that stuff you got to watch out for that stuff remember Y2K anyway oh yeah wow this is remember Y2K anyway oh yeah wow this is remember Y2K anyway oh yeah wow this is so exciting 250 you know if we'd so exciting 250 you know if we'd so exciting 250 you know if we'd listened to Rick bolat we would have listened to Rick bolat we would have listened to Rick bolat we would have stopped this years ago 230 shows ago I stopped this years ago 230 shows ago I stopped this years ago 230 shows ago I heard yeah yeah it's true we'd be done heard yeah yeah it's true we'd be done heard yeah yeah it's true we'd be done we'd be done you know um because we'd be done you know um because we'd be done you know um because remember we talk we we ran out of stuff remember we talk we we ran out of stuff remember we talk we we ran out of stuff to talk about we all right we covered to talk about we all right we covered to talk about we all right we covered everything with iot we're done exactly everything with iot we're done exactly everything with iot we're done exactly so GL I see Dimitri's uh look like a so GL I see Dimitri's uh look like a so GL I see Dimitri's uh look like a picture of a cocktail there I don't know picture of a cocktail there I don't know picture of a cocktail there I don't know is he on is he onine yeah he kind of I'm is he on is he onine yeah he kind of I'm is he on is he onine yeah he kind of I'm trying to make my camera work I'm trying to make my camera work I'm trying to make my camera work I'm just I'm just back for a trip in Europe just I'm just back for a trip in Europe just I'm just back for a trip in Europe and there's a whole bunch of weird and there's a whole bunch of weird and there's a whole bunch of weird things that happened in my office so oh things that happened in my office so oh things that happened in my office so oh that's what happens when you're gone that's what happens when you're gone that's what happens when you're gone exactly exactly little going into your exactly exactly little going into your exactly exactly little going into your office and change all your settings you office and change all your settings you office and change all your settings you know yeah but I have to say that the know yeah but I have to say that the know yeah but I have to say that the cocktail idea is pretty tempting yeah cocktail idea is pretty tempting yeah cocktail idea is pretty tempting yeah looks good it does look good it's about looks good it does look good it's about looks good it does look good it's about the right time down the right time down the right time down there iate how it's there iate how it's there iate how it's 20 still having the same issues we had 20 still having the same issues we had 20 still having the same issues we had in 1996 like I still can't get my webcam in 1996 like I still can't get my webcam in 1996 like I still can't get my webcam to work I still can't get reliable

to work I still can't get reliable to work I still can't get reliable internet a broadcast you know can you internet a broadcast you know can you internet a broadcast you know can you hear me hear me now yeah yeah s you're hear me hear me now yeah yeah s you're hear me hear me now yeah yeah s you're muted you're muted he did it I did it muted you're muted he did it I did it muted you're muted he did it I did it absolutely well done bro I haed I hacked absolutely well done bro I haed I hacked absolutely well done bro I haed I hacked into the L&M and changed the pr and now into the L&M and changed the pr and now into the L&M and changed the pr and now it's it's it's back maybe it's time for the disclaimer back maybe it's time for the disclaimer back maybe it's time for the disclaimer that H you know it's at at your own risk that H you know it's at at your own risk that H you know it's at at your own risk to listen to us and then to uh take us to listen to us and then to uh take us to listen to us and then to uh take us seriously seriously seriously right you started it this is this is for right you started it this is this is for right you started it this is this is for entertainment purposes only if I go entertainment purposes only if I go entertainment purposes only if I go crazy and say go with video how about crazy and say go with video how about crazy and say go with video how about how about those earnings yesterday Bo how about those earnings yesterday Bo how about those earnings yesterday Bo the AI we are going baby yeah totally the AI we are going baby yeah totally the AI we are going baby yeah totally ignore him ignore me ignore me you ignore him ignore me ignore me you ignore him ignore me ignore me you know yeah you know don't listen to me or know yeah you know don't listen to me or know yeah you know don't listen to me or Daniel Newman on Fox Business don't Daniel Newman on Fox Business don't Daniel Newman on Fox Business don't listen to Pat on listen to Pat on listen to Pat on CNBC don't do it this is awesome just just ask deep it this is awesome just just ask deep seek and you're seek and you're seek and you're good yeah absolutely you know little good yeah absolutely you know little good yeah absolutely you know little trivia there with the today's your trivia there with the today's your trivia there with the today's your birthday from the Beatles you played birthday from the Beatles you played birthday from the Beatles you played there was a I'm in Houston Texas I'm not there was a I'm in Houston Texas I'm not there was a I'm in Houston Texas I'm not too far from Austin and there was a too far from Austin and there was a too far from Austin and there was a Mexican restaurant called cyclone annias Mexican restaurant called cyclone annias Mexican restaurant called cyclone annias and you know how like you go to a place and you know how like you go to a place and you know how like you go to a place and it's your birthday and they're going and it's your birthday and they're going and it's your birthday and they're going to come do something fun at the to come do something fun at the to come do something fun at the restaurant well they would play that restaurant well they would play that restaurant well they would play that song full blast throughout this giant song full blast throughout this giant song full blast throughout this giant restaurant and everybody starts going restaurant and everybody starts going restaurant and everybody starts going crazy and then this whole you know it's crazy and then this whole you know it's crazy and then this whole you know it's not like Red Robin with that silly song

not like Red Robin with that silly song not like Red Robin with that silly song there's people coming around and they're there's people coming around and they're there's people coming around and they're like chanting and then they they put a like chanting and then they they put a like chanting and then they they put a bib on you you've probably seen this bib on you you've probably seen this bib on you you've probably seen this kind of thing and then they're on the kind of thing and then they're on the kind of thing and then they're on the other side of the table and this guy other side of the table and this guy other side of the table and this guy would blow into the steel and it shoots would blow into the steel and it shoots would blow into the steel and it shoots tequila through the air into your mouth tequila through the air into your mouth tequila through the air into your mouth and they're like shooting it at you and they're like shooting it at you and they're like shooting it at you you're like no way yeah yeah so when I you're like no way yeah yeah so when I you're like no way yeah yeah so when I hear Robin yeah it's definitely not was that was that you yesterday not was that was that you yesterday doing doing doing that I'm always shooting tequila yes yes that I'm always shooting tequila yes yes that I'm always shooting tequila yes yes absolutely yeah well you know that's absolutely yeah well you know that's absolutely yeah well you know that's good oldfashioned American Ingenuity and good oldfashioned American Ingenuity and good oldfashioned American Ingenuity and Innovation right there right maybe it's Innovation right there right maybe it's Innovation right there right maybe it's Mexican ameran Mexican Amer yeah yeah Mexican ameran Mexican Amer yeah yeah Mexican ameran Mexican Amer yeah yeah yeah yeah wow well I think a lot of it yeah yeah wow well I think a lot of it yeah yeah wow well I think a lot of it has spawned in Las Vegas so you know has spawned in Las Vegas so you know has spawned in Las Vegas so you know it's a hub of uh drinking yeah de deat it's a hub of uh drinking yeah de deat it's a hub of uh drinking yeah de deat Innovation exactly hey that would be Innovation exactly hey that would be Innovation exactly hey that would be great if we started a company that was great if we started a company that was great if we started a company that was like our tagline de like our tagline de like our tagline de Innovation you guys probably don't know Innovation you guys probably don't know Innovation you guys probably don't know but most of those you know artifact P but most of those you know artifact P but most of those you know artifact P you do in parties like the big bottle of you do in parties like the big bottle of you do in parties like the big bottle of Champagnes with the the flashes anything Champagnes with the the flashes anything Champagnes with the the flashes anything all those things were invented in France all those things were invented in France all those things were invented in France of course they were of of course they were of of course they were of course true it is true in the 80s the course true it is true in the 80s the course true it is true in the 80s the whole production in clubs and started whole production in clubs and started whole production in clubs and started doing all those kind of things so it's doing all those kind of things so it's doing all those kind of things so it's like you know it's like a lot of the the like you know it's like a lot of the the like you know it's like a lot of the the the disco music most of the producer the disco music most of the producer the disco music most of the producer were in France were in France were in France so comes from the mini it all comes with so comes from the mini it all comes with so comes from the mini it all comes with the minil yeah

the minil yeah the minil yeah well you know do a little Dan I'll start well you know do a little Dan I'll start well you know do a little Dan I'll start it all it all it all I still have my M and it still works I still have my M and it still works I still have my M and it still works actually and also speaking of champagne actually and also speaking of champagne actually and also speaking of champagne if you are struggling sometimes at a if you are struggling sometimes at a if you are struggling sometimes at a dinner to come up with the right pairing dinner to come up with the right pairing dinner to come up with the right pairing you know white or red wine with the food you know white or red wine with the food you know white or red wine with the food if you can always punt champagne goes if you can always punt champagne goes if you can always punt champagne goes with almost anything and so if you're with almost anything and so if you're with almost anything and so if you're struggling you're out on a date you're struggling you're out on a date you're struggling you're out on a date you're trying to press your date you can't trying to press your date you can't trying to press your date you can't figure out what bottle of red wine from figure out what bottle of red wine from figure out what bottle of red wine from Nappa or whatever just go with Nappa or whatever just go with Nappa or whatever just go with champagne he's a you're a wi aile or champagne he's a you're a wi aile or champagne he's a you're a wi aile or what do they call it what do they call it what do they call it no no no W yeah yes yes Rob are you are you W yeah yes yes Rob are you are you W yeah yes yes Rob are you are you trying to cater to a younger demographic trying to cater to a younger demographic trying to cater to a younger demographic are you trying are you trying are you trying to if this was another time frame that to if this was another time frame that to if this was another time frame that might be true but actually the sadness might be true but actually the sadness might be true but actually the sadness the sad thing is is younger people are the sad thing is is younger people are the sad thing is is younger people are not drinking as much in general and not drinking as much in general and not drinking as much in general and they're not drinking wine actually the they're not drinking wine actually the they're not drinking wine actually the wine industry is on a downward project wine industry is on a downward project wine industry is on a downward project it's yeah it's really scary people are it's yeah it's really scary people are it's yeah it's really scary people are not drinking and wine as much no they're not drinking and wine as much no they're not drinking and wine as much no they're drinking shots get drunk after half an drinking shots get drunk after half an drinking shots get drunk after half an hour and then they're done yeah um the hour and then they're done yeah um the hour and then they're done yeah um the only area just having edible stuff they only area just having edible stuff they only area just having edible stuff they just yeah that's a big thing craft just yeah that's a big thing craft just yeah that's a big thing craft cocktails are popular these days huh cocktails are popular these days huh cocktails are popular these days huh yeah I guess everyone goes for yeah I guess everyone goes for yeah I guess everyone goes for efficiency let's see how quickly we can efficiency let's see how quickly we can efficiency let's see how quickly we can get drunk without paying the bar $50 per get drunk without paying the bar $50 per get drunk without paying the bar $50 per drink nowadays it's like insane how much drink nowadays it's like insane how much drink nowadays it's like insane how much cost you know old fashioned is like what cost you know old fashioned is like what cost you know old fashioned is like what like 25 bucks or something like that

like 25 bucks or something like that like 25 bucks or something like that it's right crazy we're just G to have it's right crazy we're just G to have it's right crazy we're just G to have ever clear Punch Yeah there you go in a ever clear Punch Yeah there you go in a ever clear Punch Yeah there you go in a garbage can in a garbage can yes you you garbage can in a garbage can yes you you garbage can in a garbage can yes you you remember well don't remember well don't remember well don't you oh no so hey h how's that mic you oh no so hey h how's that mic you oh no so hey h how's that mic passing going for you hey so far not you passing going for you hey so far not you passing going for you hey so far not you tell it's weird is it is it working are tell it's weird is it is it working are tell it's weird is it is it working are we audible well yes you're audible let we audible well yes you're audible let we audible well yes you're audible let let let's do this yes this is a 250th let let's do this yes this is a 250th let let's do this yes this is a 250th episode um yes uh Rick you were episode um yes uh Rick you were episode um yes uh Rick you were completely wrong we have big mouths you completely wrong we have big mouths you completely wrong we have big mouths you completely underestimated that right we completely underestimated that right we completely underestimated that right we love to talk and rant and talk all kinds love to talk and rant and talk all kinds love to talk and rant and talk all kinds of crap so yes you were wrong and we'll of crap so yes you were wrong and we'll of crap so yes you were wrong and we'll probably go on for another Century but probably go on for another Century but probably go on for another Century but hey why are you guys in Austin tell us hey why are you guys in Austin tell us hey why are you guys in Austin tell us yeah yeah yeah 250th I know episode we decided to all 250th I know episode we decided to all 250th I know episode we decided to all come to Austin we're here for the Aji come to Austin we're here for the Aji come to Austin we're here for the Aji Foundation a Austin 2025 event day three Foundation a Austin 2025 event day three Foundation a Austin 2025 event day three by the way so we're pretty burnt out at by the way so we're pretty burnt out at by the way so we're pretty burnt out at this point yeah day Rob was here the this point yeah day Rob was here the this point yeah day Rob was here the other day which was awesome we had a other day which was awesome we had a other day which was awesome we had a great panel we've had panels since then great panel we've had panels since then great panel we've had panels since then that you know maybe almost tried to that you know maybe almost tried to that you know maybe almost tried to achieve or surpass the awesomeness of achieve or surpass the awesomeness of achieve or surpass the awesomeness of that panel but uh yeah no it's been that panel but uh yeah no it's been that panel but uh yeah no it's been great we had three days of EDI fun and great we had three days of EDI fun and great we had three days of EDI fun and talks and panels and demos and brisket talks and panels and demos and brisket talks and panels and demos and brisket and beers and all that other stuff so

and beers and all that other stuff so and beers and all that other stuff so yeah we're we got like another two hours yeah we're we got like another two hours yeah we're we got like another two hours to go and then we're going to start to go and then we're going to start to go and then we're going to start packing up I think so it's been good packing up I think so it's been good packing up I think so it's been good though and big news is we are renaming though and big news is we are renaming though and big news is we are renaming the the show to Aji show that's right the the show to Aji show that's right the the show to Aji show that's right coffee talki coffee talk you didn't know coffee talki coffee talk you didn't know coffee talki coffee talk you didn't know for the for the for the 201 that works better vote we can 201 that works better vote we can 201 that works better vote we can vote hey but who is that guyed there's vote hey but who is that guyed there's vote hey but who is that guyed there's some guy who's not talking in your some guy who's not talking in your some guy who's not talking in your little group there he's over on the side little group there he's over on the side little group there he's over on the side I didn't have the mic unfortunately how I didn't have the mic unfortunately how I didn't have the mic unfortunately how you doing Rob you okay I'm doing great you doing Rob you okay I'm doing great you doing Rob you okay I'm doing great you know practicing all my sales tips you know practicing all my sales tips you know practicing all my sales tips that you taught me on Tik that you taught me on Tik that you taught me on Tik Tok you Tok you Tok you know well everyone's got to learn know well everyone's got to learn know well everyone's got to learn something Rob right yes awareness are something Rob right yes awareness are something Rob right yes awareness are you interested are you never you interested are you never you interested are you never mind if you learn from Tik Tok you're mind if you learn from Tik Tok you're mind if you learn from Tik Tok you're probably going to be very successful Rob probably going to be very successful Rob probably going to be very successful Rob but I'm not sure we're gonna stay friend but I'm not sure we're gonna stay friend but I'm not sure we're gonna stay friend for long oh my God has the uh he's got for long oh my God has the uh he's got for long oh my God has the uh he's got the fan going for the fashion kind of the fan going for the fashion kind of the fan going for the fashion kind of hair yeah well now beyon he's got a hair yeah well now beyon he's got a hair yeah well now beyon he's got a Beyonce thing Beyonce thing Beyonce thing going in Tik Tok mode now yes yes oh my going in Tik Tok mode now yes yes oh my going in Tik Tok mode now yes yes oh my gosh I know so I'm at a conference as gosh I know so I'm at a conference as gosh I know so I'm at a conference as well and it's the emissions ah you know well and it's the emissions ah you know well and it's the emissions ah you know kind of tracking reporting and stuff kind of tracking reporting and stuff kind of tracking reporting and stuff like that you know you know me I'm like that you know you know me I'm like that you know you know me I'm always trying to save the world with the always trying to save the world with the always trying to save the world with the stgs and so yeah I'm I'm on the board of stgs and so yeah I'm I'm on the board of stgs and so yeah I'm I'm on the board of this thing and you know I wish there this thing and you know I wish there this thing and you know I wish there were more people here who cared about

were more people here who cared about were more people here who cared about emissions oil and gas yeah was I was emissions oil and gas yeah was I was emissions oil and gas yeah was I was about to ask how's it going with the about to ask how's it going with the about to ask how's it going with the drill baby a drill thingy yeah yeah it's drill baby a drill thingy yeah yeah it's drill baby a drill thingy yeah yeah it's kind of weird it's you know it is it's kind of weird it's you know it is it's kind of weird it's you know it is it's tough It's like uh it's very paradoxical tough It's like uh it's very paradoxical tough It's like uh it's very paradoxical because a whole lot of folks here in because a whole lot of folks here in because a whole lot of folks here in Houston are not going to stop drilling Houston are not going to stop drilling Houston are not going to stop drilling baby Drilling and yet how do you save baby Drilling and yet how do you save baby Drilling and yet how do you save the planet at the same time and so I the planet at the same time and so I the planet at the same time and so I guess what I would say is I'm helping guess what I would say is I'm helping guess what I would say is I'm helping them around the edges the periphery I them around the edges the periphery I them around the edges the periphery I can't make them stop doing their primary can't make them stop doing their primary can't make them stop doing their primary business but I can do something what do business but I can do something what do business but I can do something what do we have with iot continuous monitoring we have with iot continuous monitoring we have with iot continuous monitoring remotely of stuff we got sensors for CO2 remotely of stuff we got sensors for CO2 remotely of stuff we got sensors for CO2 we have sensors for methane why don't we have sensors for methane why don't we have sensors for methane why don't you just put those place at the drilling you just put those place at the drilling you just put those place at the drilling pad in West Texas at your tank farm pad in West Texas at your tank farm pad in West Texas at your tank farm terminals on your oil trains your super terminals on your oil trains your super terminals on your oil trains your super tankers at the refineries you need to tankers at the refineries you need to tankers at the refineries you need to have just like we always talk about you have just like we always talk about you have just like we always talk about you know connect collect analyze act what's know connect collect analyze act what's know connect collect analyze act what's that action I think the action now is if that action I think the action now is if that action I think the action now is if I detect methane levels escaping from I detect methane levels escaping from I detect methane levels escaping from some drilling area it should automate some drilling area it should automate some drilling area it should automate and shut down a valve or shut down the and shut down a valve or shut down the and shut down a valve or shut down the pump jack or something like that just pump jack or something like that just pump jack or something like that just like we say like like if we did Leak like we say like like if we did Leak like we say like like if we did Leak Detection with the six million gallons Detection with the six million gallons Detection with the six million gallons of water lost per day in America if you of water lost per day in America if you of water lost per day in America if you detect a leak shut down the valve if the detect a leak shut down the valve if the detect a leak shut down the valve if the soil needs water in your farm actuate soil needs water in your farm actuate soil needs water in your farm actuate the irrigation system take an action and the irrigation system take an action and the irrigation system take an action and so it seems simple to me but you know so it seems simple to me but you know so it seems simple to me but you know some people you lead the horse to water some people you lead the horse to water some people you lead the horse to water and then you put their head in the water

figure out a way to get away right figure out a way to get away right they're still thirsty no that that we they're still thirsty no that that we they're still thirsty no that that we went to uh what was it distributech a went to uh what was it distributech a went to uh what was it distributech a few years ago Rob and that's what few years ago Rob and that's what few years ago Rob and that's what surprising to me they talked about the surprising to me they talked about the surprising to me they talked about the tickets on the fence right and that blew tickets on the fence right and that blew tickets on the fence right and that blew my mind that they have these cards you my mind that they have these cards you my mind that they have these cards you know and change a different color and know and change a different color and know and change a different color and someone's job is just to go around and someone's job is just to go around and someone's job is just to go around and manually check these from a vision and manually check these from a vision and manually check these from a vision and anytime I see that I think censor censor anytime I see that I think censor censor anytime I see that I think censor censor censor we figured this out censor we figured this out censor we figured this out yeah how often are they checking these yeah how often are they checking these yeah how often are they checking these and then how often do they go unreported and then how often do they go unreported and then how often do they go unreported you have a lot of human error but while you have a lot of human error but while you have a lot of human error but while that happens I mean you're just leaking that happens I mean you're just leaking that happens I mean you're just leaking gases you're leaking all this bad stuff gases you're leaking all this bad stuff gases you're leaking all this bad stuff like you said that's where I think iot like you said that's where I think iot like you said that's where I think iot is strong and I'm I'm shocked at the is strong and I'm I'm shocked at the is strong and I'm I'm shocked at the adoption rate because it can't be cheap adoption rate because it can't be cheap adoption rate because it can't be cheap to have have what do they call it truck to have have what do they call it truck to have have what do they call it truck roll right people are it's a truck roll roll right people are it's a truck roll roll right people are it's a truck roll oh and what happens when you do a truck oh and what happens when you do a truck oh and what happens when you do a truck roll you create more emissions right roll you create more emissions right roll you create more emissions right yeah there you go worse you drove your yeah there you go worse you drove your yeah there you go worse you drove your truck to the pad site in West Texas and truck to the pad site in West Texas and truck to the pad site in West Texas and you burned up a lot of fuel wear and you burned up a lot of fuel wear and you burned up a lot of fuel wear and tear I mean this remember what we've tear I mean this remember what we've tear I mean this remember what we've learned the only way you can get through learned the only way you can get through learned the only way you can get through these customers heads is it's got to be these customers heads is it's got to be these customers heads is it's got to be about the money you got to show them how about the money you got to show them how about the money you got to show them how you're going to make money or save money you're going to make money or save money you're going to make money or save money they could care less about saving the they could care less about saving the they could care less about saving the planet or they kind of care about planet or they kind of care about planet or they kind of care about drisking but uh but it's got to be a drisking but uh but it's got to be a drisking but uh but it's got to be a money thing and so you gotta it's like money thing and so you gotta it's like money thing and so you gotta it's like people go oh but these these devices are people go oh but these these devices are people go oh but these these devices are so expensive and the wireless and I go so expensive and the wireless and I go so expensive and the wireless and I go well how much did that F-150 cost how well how much did that F-150 cost how well how much did that F-150 cost how much did the fuel cost and how much do much did the fuel cost and how much do much did the fuel cost and how much do that employee cost that day to go out that employee cost that day to go out that employee cost that day to go out there you know out to Midland or

there you know out to Midland or there you know out to Midland or whatever it's stting that some of these whatever it's stting that some of these whatever it's stting that some of these places they drive three to four hours places they drive three to four hours places they drive three to four hours and you're paying someone to drive three and you're paying someone to drive three and you're paying someone to drive three to four hours to manually check to four hours to manually check to four hours to manually check something and they're like I can't pay something and they're like I can't pay something and they're like I can't pay $7 a month for remote internet $7 a month for remote internet $7 a month for remote internet connection are you saying it's connection are you saying it's connection are you saying it's understand are you saying it's too soon understand are you saying it's too soon understand are you saying it's too soon to talk to them about AGI well well why don't you why don't AGI well well why don't you why don't hey we just we just out some use cases hey we just we just out some use cases hey we just we just out some use cases there how would you apply edji to some there how would you apply edji to some there how would you apply edji to some of the stuff we're talking about right of the stuff we're talking about right of the stuff we're talking about right now how would I yes to put you on the now how would I yes to put you on the now how would I yes to put you on the spot yeah put on the spot simple the spot yeah put on the spot simple the spot yeah put on the spot simple the automation of shutting the freaking automation of shutting the freaking automation of shutting the freaking valves based on the inputs it's like valves based on the inputs it's like valves based on the inputs it's like pretty straight forward right doesn't pretty straight forward right doesn't pretty straight forward right doesn't sound like a does sound like a does sound like a does it no there's a pretty there is a pretty it no there's a pretty there is a pretty it no there's a pretty there is a pretty varied argument that if we at some point varied argument that if we at some point varied argument that if we at some point reach AI we're going to have to start reach AI we're going to have to start reach AI we're going to have to start you know thinking entities that could you know thinking entities that could you know thinking entities that could make less stupid decision that you men make less stupid decision that you men make less stupid decision that you men make so there's actually a number of make so there's actually a number of make so there's actually a number of field though personally I'm very eager field though personally I'm very eager field though personally I'm very eager to see AI coming because so you can to see AI coming because so you can to see AI coming because so you can imagine that you you laun your AI it imagine that you you laun your AI it imagine that you you laun your AI it looks at your operation and it will tell looks at your operation and it will tell looks at your operation and it will tell you why the heck are you paying this you why the heck are you paying this you why the heck are you paying this F-150 and this guy to go there because F-150 and this guy to go there because F-150 and this guy to go there because you can put a little Lowa Network and you can put a little Lowa Network and you can put a little Lowa Network and the sensor to do that so you know simple like uh you know so you know simple like uh you know solar powerered AI Vision that that are solar powerered AI Vision that that are solar powerered AI Vision that that are for Brownfield meter readings right so for Brownfield meter readings right so for Brownfield meter readings right so you put yes aim the vision sensor at the you put yes aim the vision sensor at the you put yes aim the vision sensor at the old meter that's like 30 or 40 years old old meter that's like 30 or 40 years old old meter that's like 30 or 40 years old and it just reads it you know and that

and it just reads it you know and that and it just reads it you know and that kind of stuff you know you don't need to kind of stuff you know you don't need to kind of stuff you know you don't need to install a bunch of new equipment you install a bunch of new equipment you install a bunch of new equipment you just kind of peel and these Solar Vision just kind of peel and these Solar Vision just kind of peel and these Solar Vision sensors and do a little bit of uh CNN on sensors and do a little bit of uh CNN on sensors and do a little bit of uh CNN on the end you know yeah yeah and I don't the end you know yeah yeah and I don't the end you know yeah yeah and I don't think it's necessarily um that they'll think it's necessarily um that they'll think it's necessarily um that they'll produce less human errors the benefit is produce less human errors the benefit is produce less human errors the benefit is persistent persistent persistent observability right that you uh you know observability right that you uh you know observability right that you uh you know cuz cuz cuz right right now with the clipboard right right now with the clipboard right right now with the clipboard analogy that you always give Rob you analogy that you always give Rob you analogy that you always give Rob you your the sample rate is very very low your the sample rate is very very low your the sample rate is very very low right and usually you're reactive or right and usually you're reactive or right and usually you're reactive or it's a it's a scheduled monitoring it's a it's a scheduled monitoring it's a it's a scheduled monitoring activity with huge intervals with where activity with huge intervals with where activity with huge intervals with where like what you're saying Ryan there's no like what you're saying Ryan there's no like what you're saying Ryan there's no observation right and then there's loss observation right and then there's loss observation right and then there's loss that can happen in between those inter that can happen in between those inter that can happen in between those inter intervals but I think the misconception intervals but I think the misconception intervals but I think the misconception is that uh AI is inherently better than is that uh AI is inherently better than is that uh AI is inherently better than people uh that's not true but the people uh that's not true but the people uh that's not true but the benefit I think the way that you have to benefit I think the way that you have to benefit I think the way that you have to look at it is in terms of being able to look at it is in terms of being able to look at it is in terms of being able to have that persistent um visibility and have that persistent um visibility and have that persistent um visibility and observability and probably higher observability and probably higher observability and probably higher Fidelity than what we have right now Fidelity than what we have right now Fidelity than what we have right now right uh that I think is the big benefit right uh that I think is the big benefit right uh that I think is the big benefit and I don't hear a lot of people and I don't hear a lot of people and I don't hear a lot of people actually talking about that right they actually talking about that right they actually talking about that right they um they try to sell this notion that AI um they try to sell this notion that AI um they try to sell this notion that AI is better it really isn't and you're is better it really isn't and you're is better it really isn't and you're missing out on the real value missing out on the real value missing out on the real value proposition which is look um it can it proposition which is look um it can it proposition which is look um it can it can perform let's say maybe on par with

can perform let's say maybe on par with can perform let's say maybe on par with a a a human but you have that persistent human but you have that persistent human but you have that persistent visibility the very high sample rate and visibility the very high sample rate and visibility the very high sample rate and probably higher Fidelity than just probably higher Fidelity than just probably higher Fidelity than just having a sensor out there right you know having a sensor out there right you know having a sensor out there right you know I was gonna say there was someone here I was gonna say there was someone here I was gonna say there was someone here from the satellite industry they were from the satellite industry they were from the satellite industry they were saying that currently it's kind of like saying that currently it's kind of like saying that currently it's kind of like a 1 meter uh level of clarity but a 1 meter uh level of clarity but a 1 meter uh level of clarity but they're soon going to go to 10 cm for they're soon going to go to 10 cm for they're soon going to go to 10 cm for like publicly available satellite data like publicly available satellite data like publicly available satellite data and they're going to go to three cim so and they're going to go to three cim so and they're going to go to three cim so imagine if imagine if imagine if youell 3 cm Imaging to read all that youell 3 cm Imaging to read all that youell 3 cm Imaging to read all that stuff you don't even need to go out stuff you don't even need to go out stuff you don't even need to go out there and put AI Vision sensors on the there and put AI Vision sensors on the there and put AI Vision sensors on the actual old meters good point that's a actual old meters good point that's a actual old meters good point that's a good point what would except when there good point what would except when there good point what would except when there in this case though you're in this case though you're in this case though you're just yeah once a day just yeah once a day just yeah once a day yeah you know to just to stir the pot yeah you know to just to stir the pot yeah you know to just to stir the pot with Leonard saying that AI is not with Leonard saying that AI is not with Leonard saying that AI is not smarter than humans I saw some humans smarter than humans I saw some humans smarter than humans I saw some humans when I was leaving Tom's party the other when I was leaving Tom's party the other when I was leaving Tom's party the other night in night in night in Austin I think AI is smarter than a lot Austin I think AI is smarter than a lot Austin I think AI is smarter than a lot of the people I ran into on the street of the people I ran into on the street of the people I ran into on the street it's all it's all it's all Rel they can barely walk can can be Rel they can barely walk can can be Rel they can barely walk can can be Dr envir Post Dr envir Post Dr envir Post train depending on inputs and train depending on inputs and train depending on inputs and environmental variables it's very environmental variables it's very environmental variables it's very dependent all right funny but I think dependent all right funny but I think dependent all right funny but I think that the this is the wrong debate and I that the this is the wrong debate and I that the this is the wrong debate and I think we're spending too much time think we're spending too much time think we're spending too much time trying to figure out if he better or not trying to figure out if he better or not trying to figure out if he better or not the reality is that it's coming and we the reality is that it's coming and we the reality is that it's coming and we have to figure out what it is good at have to figure out what it is good at have to figure out what it is good at and what is it is to partner with and what is it is to partner with and what is it is to partner with because there's no stopping on that and

because there's no stopping on that and because there's no stopping on that and by the way I would personally argue that by the way I would personally argue that by the way I would personally argue that I think the majority of AI would be I think the majority of AI would be I think the majority of AI would be smaller than the majority of people on smaller than the majority of people on smaller than the majority of people on average in total and but it's still a average in total and but it's still a average in total and but it's still a tool that we control so you have to tool that we control so you have to tool that we control so you have to think about it this think about it this think about it this way it's to and it's I think I've said way it's to and it's I think I've said way it's to and it's I think I've said that on the show in the past you know I that on the show in the past you know I that on the show in the past you know I a downer a downer a downer man a real man a real man a real but the just the just the fact that we but the just the just the fact that we but the just the just the fact that we call this artificial intelligence call this artificial intelligence call this artificial intelligence already put us as human in a superior already put us as human in a superior already put us as human in a superior position and and I think it's the wrong position and and I think it's the wrong position and and I think it's the wrong way to think about it digital way to think about it digital way to think about it digital intelligence or something yeah I think intelligence or something yeah I think intelligence or something yeah I think the the right way to do it and I think the the right way to do it and I think the the right way to do it and I think Rob May mentioned this other day and in Rob May mentioned this other day and in Rob May mentioned this other day and in his panel is there's always rules based his panel is there's always rules based his panel is there's always rules based right so we're looking at the Machine right so we're looking at the Machine right so we're looking at the Machine Vision example that's just simple Vision example that's just simple Vision example that's just simple mapping inputs to outputs and having mapping inputs to outputs and having mapping inputs to outputs and having that local on the edge and I like AI to that local on the edge and I like AI to that local on the edge and I like AI to give me reports and to ask it questions give me reports and to ask it questions give me reports and to ask it questions about the status and the historical data about the status and the historical data about the status and the historical data of these systems so I think I think it's of these systems so I think I think it's of these systems so I think I think it's not always going to be I think everyone not always going to be I think everyone not always going to be I think everyone says oh it's AI we have to dump says oh it's AI we have to dump says oh it's AI we have to dump everything to the cloud we have to run everything to the cloud we have to run everything to the cloud we have to run all this compute power and all these all this compute power and all these all this compute power and all these gpus and do all this F I don't think it gpus and do all this F I don't think it gpus and do all this F I don't think it needs to be that complex I see it more needs to be that complex I see it more needs to be that complex I see it more interface and aggregator you're still in interface and aggregator you're still in interface and aggregator you're still in the industrial environment you're going the industrial environment you're going the industrial environment you're going to have those thresholds and those rules to have those thresholds and those rules to have those thresholds and those rules and and those limits that are going to and and those limits that are going to and and those limits that are going to do turn key locally and I like that so do turn key locally and I like that so do turn key locally and I like that so anything dependent once you're dependent anything dependent once you're dependent anything dependent once you're dependent on an outside internet connection you're on an outside internet connection you're on an outside internet connection you're dependent on the cloud you run risk dependent on the cloud you run risk dependent on the cloud you run risk especially in these remote areas you can

especially in these remote areas you can especially in these remote areas you can get redundancy but it's not going to be get redundancy but it's not going to be get redundancy but it's not going to be foolproof no matter what true there's foolproof no matter what true there's foolproof no matter what true there's another use case uh that is this goes another use case uh that is this goes another use case uh that is this goes beyond just that continuous beyond just that continuous beyond just that continuous observability which is the prediction observability which is the prediction observability which is the prediction the ability to detect Trends yeah a long the ability to detect Trends yeah a long the ability to detect Trends yeah a long time that a human eye or experience will time that a human eye or experience will time that a human eye or experience will not or at least not in time and instead not or at least not in time and instead not or at least not in time and instead of being reactive you can become of being reactive you can become of being reactive you can become proactive and instead of having to shut proactive and instead of having to shut proactive and instead of having to shut the valves too late you will notice that the valves too late you will notice that the valves too late you will notice that there's an increase of that the trend there's an increase of that the trend there's an increase of that the trend for methan levels is going a certain way for methan levels is going a certain way for methan levels is going a certain way and you can actually and you can actually and you can actually preemptively uh you know act and and not preemptively uh you know act and and not preemptively uh you know act and and not get to the critical level and have to get to the critical level and have to get to the critical level and have to shove everything so there this notion of shove everything so there this notion of shove everything so there this notion of being able to sort out and analyze a being able to sort out and analyze a being able to sort out and analyze a huge amount of data uh you know huge amount of data uh you know huge amount of data uh you know instantly is is something that I can do instantly is is something that I can do instantly is is something that I can do and and and should be used for and and and should be used for and and and should be used for an interesting question but on on what an interesting question but on on what an interesting question but on on what you said Rob because uh we are all Tey you said Rob because uh we are all Tey you said Rob because uh we are all Tey here so we are convinced we think it's here so we are convinced we think it's here so we are convinced we think it's completely stupid that they don't do completely stupid that they don't do completely stupid that they don't do that and we are wondering but why even that and we are wondering but why even that and we are wondering but why even iot solution for what you were iot solution for what you were iot solution for what you were mentioning Rob about the the drilling mentioning Rob about the the drilling mentioning Rob about the the drilling why don't they use that already that's why don't they use that already that's why don't they use that already that's an interesting question why being there an interesting question why being there an interesting question why being there and ready to be implemented why don't and ready to be implemented why don't and ready to be implemented why don't they use it you know it it's what Rob they use it you know it it's what Rob they use it you know it it's what Rob said earlier drisking said earlier drisking said earlier drisking what you guys are talking about there is what you guys are talking about there is what you guys are talking about there is the drisk part that's really hard to the drisk part that's really hard to the drisk part that's really hard to sell and we've talked about it on the sell and we've talked about it on the sell and we've talked about it on the show for I mean gez ages even though show for I mean gez ages even though show for I mean gez ages even though these big compies even though these big

these big compies even though these big these big compies even though these big companies have risk departments and companies have risk departments and companies have risk departments and chief risk officers even in some cases chief risk officers even in some cases chief risk officers even in some cases um have you ever been at a a um have you ever been at a a um have you ever been at a a presentation you're doing a conference presentation you're doing a conference presentation you're doing a conference like the one I'm about to do and said like the one I'm about to do and said like the one I'm about to do and said I'm gonna go up there and give a I'm gonna go up there and give a I'm gonna go up there and give a presentation that's going to get me not presentation that's going to get me not presentation that's going to get me not invited back to the event ever again you invited back to the event ever again you invited back to the event ever again you did that the other day here Rob kind of burn some bridges yeah right kind of burn some bridges yeah right yeah you know because the problem is is yeah you know because the problem is is yeah you know because the problem is is yes there's EPA and other requirements yes there's EPA and other requirements yes there's EPA and other requirements by all these oil companies to measure by all these oil companies to measure by all these oil companies to measure this stuff and know this and you're this stuff and know this and you're this stuff and know this and you're right they're doing the clipboard thing right they're doing the clipboard thing right they're doing the clipboard thing and they do know about more advanced and they do know about more advanced and they do know about more advanced ways to do ways to do ways to do it they don't want anybody to know 30 it they don't want anybody to know 30 it they don't want anybody to know 30 laundry it's laundry it's laundry it's like or or they'll take you know they'll like or or they'll take you know they'll like or or they'll take you know they'll take all the data and they'll cherry take all the data and they'll cherry take all the data and they'll cherry pick stuff that looks good for them and pick stuff that looks good for them and pick stuff that looks good for them and they'll report on that you know cuz it's they'll report on that you know cuz it's they'll report on that you know cuz it's you know it's GT for that you can create you know it's GT for that you can create you know it's GT for that you can create any data which DPT say it's com from the any data which DPT say it's com from the any data which DPT say it's com from the field right so I might I might say field right so I might I might say field right so I might I might say something crazy in my presentation this something crazy in my presentation this something crazy in my presentation this afternoon like this is sound totally afternoon like this is sound totally afternoon like this is sound totally like socialist take over I'm gonna say like socialist take over I'm gonna say like socialist take over I'm gonna say Obviously none of you can be trusted to Obviously none of you can be trusted to Obviously none of you can be trusted to capture your data and Report the data capture your data and Report the data capture your data and Report the data properly therefore the government or properly therefore the government or properly therefore the government or some other third party entity is going some other third party entity is going some other third party entity is going to have to come in from the outside to have to come in from the outside to have to come in from the outside they're going to put all the iot yeah Jo they're going to put all the iot yeah Jo they're going to put all the iot yeah Jo or something iot devices the sensors and or something iot devices the sensors and or something iot devices the sensors and guess what the data is going to them and guess what the data is going to them and guess what the data is going to them and it's going to bypass your company and it's going to bypass your company and it's going to bypass your company and your people who are going to try to

your people who are going to try to your people who are going to try to tweak the numbers to look good so your tweak the numbers to look good so your tweak the numbers to look good so your stock price doesn't drop and it's going stock price doesn't drop and it's going stock price doesn't drop and it's going to go straight to where the the you know to go straight to where the the you know to go straight to where the the you know EPA or whoever needs to see it you know EPA or whoever needs to see it you know EPA or whoever needs to see it you know because obviously you guys can't be because obviously you guys can't be because obviously you guys can't be trusted with the data you have a dis region already or data you have a dis region already or that's that's that's hey you hey you hey you know before you say know before you say know before you say that in there and get out of but before that in there and get out of but before that in there and get out of but before we we go any further am I getting a we we go any further am I getting a we we go any further am I getting a sense that there's a French invasion sense that there's a French invasion sense that there's a French invasion going on on our show who who is this going on on our show who who is this going on on our show who who is this gentleman over there it's it's supposed gentleman over there it's it's supposed gentleman over there it's it's supposed to be quiet though don't don't say it no to be quiet though don't don't say it no to be quiet though don't don't say it no one will no one will not yes our favorite friend who is he is not yes our favorite friend who is he is he like you know Jensen Wong special he like you know Jensen Wong special he like you know Jensen Wong special adviser don't tell me he is because I'll adviser don't tell me he is because I'll adviser don't tell me he is because I'll be completely embarrassed you should you be completely embarrassed you should you be completely embarrassed you should you should introduce yourself well see not should introduce yourself well see not should introduce yourself well see not over Napoleon selling part of us so are over Napoleon selling part of us so are over Napoleon selling part of us so are trying to get that back in a different trying to get that back in a different trying to get that back in a different manner yes introduce yourself for the manner yes introduce yourself for the manner yes introduce yourself for the audience but audience but audience but yeah I work in iot and Tex in a while I yeah I work in iot and Tex in a while I yeah I work in iot and Tex in a while I was CEO of witho which was embedded an was CEO of witho which was embedded an was CEO of witho which was embedded an iot software company okay which I sold iot software company okay which I sold iot software company okay which I sold to Avet a big distributor and now I have to Avet a big distributor and now I have to Avet a big distributor and now I have my own company called the fractional my own company called the fractional my own company called the fractional still working on B2B tech companies still working on B2B tech companies still working on B2B tech companies helping them to make money out of tech helping them to make money out of tech helping them to make money out of tech there you go I told him you should call there you go I told him you should call there you go I told him you should call that aaction on but he didn't want to go that aaction on but he didn't want to go that aaction on but he didn't want to go with

that whatever that whatever works that sounds better actually that works that sounds better actually that works that sounds better actually that great classy well I'm so glad you're great classy well I'm so glad you're great classy well I'm so glad you're here because you really raised the IQ of here because you really raised the IQ of here because you really raised the IQ of our group just by being here so our group just by being here so our group just by being here so mer yes thank you the good news is that mer yes thank you the good news is that mer yes thank you the good news is that his IQ is going to go down like ours his IQ is going to go down like ours his IQ is going to go down like ours of course of course yeah right oh my God of course of course yeah right oh my God of course of course yeah right oh my God yeah for my experience be careful yeah for my experience be careful yeah for my experience be careful yeah I can already feel it I feel it I yeah I can already feel it I feel it I yeah I can already feel it I feel it I could not resist I feel it you know what could not resist I feel it you know what could not resist I feel it you know what I feel a joke coming on I heard Leonard I feel a joke coming on I heard Leonard I feel a joke coming on I heard Leonard and I heard Olivier say the words and I heard Olivier say the words and I heard Olivier say the words observability this is all the failed iot observability this is all the failed iot observability this is all the failed iot companies they pivoted and said they're companies they pivoted and said they're companies they pivoted and said they're an observability company because it's an observability company because it's an observability company because it's the same no isn't it it's the same the same no isn't it it's the same the same no isn't it it's the same I'm observing what's going on in a I'm observing what's going on in a I'm observing what's going on in a data center or whatever and I'm giving data center or whatever and I'm giving data center or whatever and I'm giving you the data now you have observability you the data now you have observability you the data now you have observability it's iot but iot didn't work out so it's iot but iot didn't work out so it's iot but iot didn't work out so we've pivoted to observability and we we've pivoted to observability and we we've pivoted to observability and we just raised our another our B round so just raised our another our B round so just raised our another our B round so we're golden yeah until until they find we're golden yeah until until they find we're golden yeah until until they find us out well you know it's happening in us out well you know it's happening in us out well you know it's happening in networking right everyone talks about networking right everyone talks about networking right everyone talks about observ observability and then that being observ observability and then that being observ observability and then that being sort of that first order before you get sort of that first order before you get sort of that first order before you get to uh you know you know that's what to uh you know you know that's what to uh you know you know that's what that's what's going to drive your that's what's going to drive your that's what's going to drive your automation right it's going to on your automation right it's going to on your automation right it's going to on your reservable data you know yeah but none reservable data you know yeah but none reservable data you know yeah but none of this is easy isn't that like of this is easy isn't that like of this is easy isn't that like what we like HP open view had or or what we like HP open view had or or what we like HP open view had or or Windows wmi built into Windows Server

Windows wmi built into Windows Server Windows wmi built into Windows Server the Telemetry stuff and that's why we're the Telemetry stuff and that's why we're the Telemetry stuff and that's why we're telling everybody whatever product telling everybody whatever product telling everybody whatever product you're making make a digital twin of you're making make a digital twin of you're making make a digital twin of that product capture all the data that product capture all the data that product capture all the data locally in it as it's in the faults and locally in it as it's in the faults and locally in it as it's in the faults and everything and send that Telemetry back everything and send that Telemetry back everything and send that Telemetry back and there's your observability and it's and there's your observability and it's and there's your observability and it's iot and then you can do analytics or iot and then you can do analytics or iot and then you can do analytics or whatever come on people come on people whatever come on people come on people whatever come on people come on people this shit's not hard it's so easy I'm this shit's not hard it's so easy I'm this shit's not hard it's so easy I'm surrounded by freaking idiots so we surrounded by freaking idiots so we surrounded by freaking idiots so we should we should go with the should we should go with the should we should go with the observability um coffee talk rather observability um coffee talk rather observability um coffee talk rather than than than weers just for the next three months and weers just for the next three months and weers just for the next three months and then something else be something then something else be something then something else be something happened yeah no I I think we still need happened yeah no I I think we still need happened yeah no I I think we still need to call ourselves Quantum OT to call ourselves Quantum OT to call ourselves Quantum OT uh Q oh my God guys what the hell H now uh Q oh my God guys what the hell H now uh Q oh my God guys what the hell H now Amazon is like talking about Amazon is like talking about Amazon is like talking about how it's oh how it's oh how it's oh what the latest Amazon what the latest Amazon what the latest Amazon hype no they have a Alexa plus that they hype no they have a Alexa plus that they hype no they have a Alexa plus that they announced so we'll see how far that goes announced so we'll see how far that goes announced so we'll see how far that goes I just think it's gonna be it's gonna be I just think it's gonna be it's gonna be I just think it's gonna be it's gonna be Alexa 2.0 um kind of like. already at like. already at 1.0 huh I thought it was still like 1.0 huh I thought it was still like 1.0 huh I thought it was still like preview 0 point something yeah it's been preview 0 point something yeah it's been preview 0 point something yeah it's been B the whole time and then yeah they just B the whole time and then yeah they just B the whole time and then yeah they just announced that they have a chip you know announced that they have a chip you know announced that they have a chip you know a Quantum chip I I I just saw it pass I a Quantum chip I I I just saw it pass I a Quantum chip I I I just saw it pass I didn't read the details it's didn't read the details it's didn't read the details it's just it's another cycle of silliness

just it's another cycle of silliness just it's another cycle of silliness that I think it's starting to um to you that I think it's starting to um to you that I think it's starting to um to you know cycle up know cycle up know cycle up uh guys it really is dying uh people uh guys it really is dying uh people uh guys it really is dying uh people just don't want to admit it um there's a just don't want to admit it um there's a just don't want to admit it um there's a lot lot of lot lot of lot lot of conflicting Trends and uh Dynamics conflicting Trends and uh Dynamics conflicting Trends and uh Dynamics happening that don't make the generative happening that don't make the generative happening that don't make the generative AI monetization story make any sense and AI monetization story make any sense and AI monetization story make any sense and also it's probably going to also it's probably going to also it's probably going to impact um all the supercomputing stuff impact um all the supercomputing stuff impact um all the supercomputing stuff everyone's talking about so I everyone everyone's talking about so I everyone everyone's talking about so I everyone wants to Pivot to Quantum which is even wants to Pivot to Quantum which is even wants to Pivot to Quantum which is even more ridiculous and something that's more ridiculous and something that's more ridiculous and something that's even more esoteric than even more esoteric than even more esoteric than AI that people won't understand because AI that people won't understand because AI that people won't understand because you have to be a fraking super PhD you have to be a fraking super PhD you have to be a fraking super PhD entangle understand any of this stuff or entangle understand any of this stuff or entangle understand any of this stuff or Ai and maybe this is where things Ai and maybe this is where things Ai and maybe this is where things connect together actually the cool about connect together actually the cool about connect together actually the cool about Quantum is that you know when you talk Quantum is that you know when you talk Quantum is that you know when you talk about Quantum you talk about multiple about Quantum you talk about multiple about Quantum you talk about multiple universes and that that there's an universes and that that there's an universes and that that there's an infinite number of multiple universes as infinite number of multiple universes as infinite number of multiple universes as Rob and I know Rob what is happening in Rob and I know Rob what is happening in Rob and I know Rob what is happening in a parallel universe right now Windows a parallel universe right now Windows a parallel universe right now Windows phone is wildly successful it is it's phone is wildly successful it is it's phone is wildly successful it is it's killing it's number one it's number one like I said in that qu of universe one like I said in that qu of universe where where where huh I told I told my where I told my huh I told I told my where I told my huh I told I told my where I told my kids to they should all be Windows Phone kids to they should all be Windows Phone kids to they should all be Windows Phone developers and in that Quantum Universe developers and in that Quantum Universe developers and in that Quantum Universe they're successful in our universe they're successful in our universe they're successful in our universe they're living in a youth a youth hostel they're living in a youth a youth hostel they're living in a youth a youth hostel right now because it just didn't work right now because it just didn't work right now because it just didn't work out you

out you out you know baloney right now yeah in a van know baloney right now yeah in a van know baloney right now yeah in a van down by the river um yeah no I was just down by the river um yeah no I was just down by the river um yeah no I was just gonna give a a stock tip a rare stock gonna give a a stock tip a rare stock gonna give a a stock tip a rare stock tip from Leonard Lee just CLA just claim tip from Leonard Lee just CLA just claim tip from Leonard Lee just CLA just claim her just claim her her just claim her her just claim her before you guys mentioned alternative before you guys mentioned alternative before you guys mentioned alternative universes invest in Disney stock okay universes invest in Disney stock okay universes invest in Disney stock okay they they've cornered the market on they they've cornered the market on they they've cornered the market on Multiverse right and all that nonsense Multiverse right and all that nonsense Multiverse right and all that nonsense so wow watch out for so wow watch out for so wow watch out for slack remember what has become of the slack remember what has become of the slack remember what has become of the term metaverse seriously at your own term metaverse seriously at your own term metaverse seriously at your own risk huh become of the term metaverse risk huh become of the term metaverse risk huh become of the term metaverse pretty much nothing that's a freaking joke I think nothing that's a freaking joke I think it's up for grabs that could tell you it's up for grabs that could tell you it's up for grabs that could tell you that tells you everything it's up for that tells you everything it's up for that tells you everything it's up for grabs yeah grabs yeah grabs yeah yeah but it it will come back when we yeah but it it will come back when we yeah but it it will come back when we have Aji because you're G to have all have Aji because you're G to have all have Aji because you're G to have all those AI agents who are going to create those AI agents who are going to create those AI agents who are going to create their virtual digital world and they their virtual digital world and they their virtual digital world and they might grant us you know an access to get might grant us you know an access to get might grant us you know an access to get into it from time to time that's the into it from time to time that's the into it from time to time that's the Future Vision Future Vision Future Vision yeah but you know you know so with all yeah but you know you know so with all yeah but you know you know so with all this U multi- agentic stuff that this U multi- agentic stuff that this U multi- agentic stuff that everyone's talking about there's this everyone's talking about there's this everyone's talking about there's this one thing that I encountered about seven one thing that I encountered about seven one thing that I encountered about seven years ago on the research I was doing on years ago on the research I was doing on years ago on the research I was doing on Swarm intelligence that people don't Swarm intelligence that people don't Swarm intelligence that people don't like to talk about um especially the like to talk about um especially the like to talk about um especially the ones who are floating the you know ones who are floating the you know ones who are floating the you know agenta kype is conflict conflict agenta kype is conflict conflict agenta kype is conflict conflict management and how you prevent these management and how you prevent these management and how you prevent these things from colliding with each other in things from colliding with each other in things from colliding with each other in their interests and their activities

their interests and their activities their interests and their activities that can collectively cause a lot of that can collectively cause a lot of that can collectively cause a lot of problems right especially if you have problems right especially if you have problems right especially if you have them deployed in a network or them deployed in a network or them deployed in a network or infrastructure of some kind that's infrastructure of some kind that's infrastructure of some kind that's critical um but you know I think we like critical um but you know I think we like critical um but you know I think we like take our lives too lightly that we would take our lives too lightly that we would take our lives too lightly that we would want to subject want to subject want to subject ourselves to these huge risks unsolved ourselves to these huge risks unsolved ourselves to these huge risks unsolved risks that everyone keeps floating out risks that everyone keeps floating out risks that everyone keeps floating out there in you know in all these these there in you know in all these these there in you know in all these these pitches about how a gentic AI is going pitches about how a gentic AI is going pitches about how a gentic AI is going to do all this insane stuff this stuff to do all this insane stuff this stuff to do all this insane stuff this stuff is I mean it's crazy how people just is I mean it's crazy how people just is I mean it's crazy how people just jump to these uh aspirational or even jump to these uh aspirational or even jump to these uh aspirational or even fantastic um you know fantasy uh use fantastic um you know fantasy uh use fantastic um you know fantasy uh use cases or or Notions without thinking cases or or Notions without thinking cases or or Notions without thinking through uh the technical aspects of it through uh the technical aspects of it through uh the technical aspects of it right it it it's it's just freaking right it it it's it's just freaking right it it it's it's just freaking unbelievable no it's human nature you unbelievable no it's human nature you unbelievable no it's human nature you know and I mean you you you guys are know and I mean you you you guys are know and I mean you you you guys are funny I mean 10 minutes ago Rob was funny I mean 10 minutes ago Rob was funny I mean 10 minutes ago Rob was pitching it's all about the money so pitching it's all about the money so pitching it's all about the money so that's here's your answer it's all about that's here's your answer it's all about that's here's your answer it's all about the freaking money it's all about the the freaking money it's all about the the freaking money it's all about the money lard sitting here technology they money lard sitting here technology they money lard sitting here technology they see look for the money look at I mean see look for the money look at I mean see look for the money look at I mean sorry don't get into politics but look sorry don't get into politics but look sorry don't get into politics but look what's happening in the world leard what's happening in the world leard what's happening in the world leard you're trying to torpedo our entire you're trying to torpedo our entire you're trying to torpedo our entire careers here by saying that they careers here by saying that they careers here by saying that they shouldn't listen to this stuff our whole shouldn't listen to this stuff our whole shouldn't listen to this stuff our whole whole business is based on a Fantastical whole business is based on a Fantastical whole business is based on a Fantastical future with this cool Tech and people future with this cool Tech and people future with this cool Tech and people are like yeah yeah yeah no

are like yeah yeah yeah no are like yeah yeah yeah no no yeah they are they are that's true no yeah they are they are that's true no yeah they are they are that's true I'm not working don't scw it up for us I'm not working don't scw it up for us I'm not working don't scw it up for us talking about metaverse have you seen talking about metaverse have you seen talking about metaverse have you seen that demo that I don't know how much of that demo that I don't know how much of that demo that I don't know how much of that is true or not where you have these that is true or not where you have these that is true or not where you have these two agents one is calling on behalf of a two agents one is calling on behalf of a two agents one is calling on behalf of a human to book something and and they human to book something and and they human to book something and and they start talking their own language like oh start talking their own language like oh start talking their own language like oh yeah they switch into like I think it's yeah they switch into like I think it's yeah they switch into like I think it's high performance bleep mode or whatever high performance bleep mode or whatever high performance bleep mode or whatever I think it's a fake that's that's total I think it's a fake that's that's total I think it's a fake that's that's total it's it's it's fake it was it was scary and but I was fake it was it was scary and but I was fake it was it was scary and but I was surprised because the language was not surprised because the language was not surprised because the language was not that efficient though it was long I mean that efficient though it was long I mean that efficient though it was long I mean I would have expected that's the point I would have expected that's the point I would have expected that's the point that's the point and that's actually that's the point and that's actually that's the point and that's actually what make it fake is that have things what make it fake is that have things what make it fake is that have things like that yeah like the to sound like an like that yeah like the to sound like an like that yeah like the to sound like an acoustic coup first of all why would acoustic coup first of all why would acoustic coup first of all why would they use voice I mean why would they use they use voice I mean why would they use they use voice I mean why would they use voice they're voice they're voice they're connected and especially if they want to connected and especially if they want to connected and especially if they want to use a language to kind of be more and use a language to kind of be more and use a language to kind of be more and maybe conceal you don't want to use maybe conceal you don't want to use maybe conceal you don't want to use voice so that I mean just cling voice so that I mean just cling voice so that I mean just cling on yeah yeah well it's like saying hey on yeah yeah well it's like saying hey on yeah yeah well it's like saying hey would you like to make a reservation would you like to make a reservation would you like to make a reservation hold on why don't we uh speak in our own hold on why don't we uh speak in our own hold on why don't we uh speak in our own computer language that's faster oh guys I've got a question so it's 250th guys I've got a question so it's 250th episode today Leonard you mentioned episode today Leonard you mentioned episode today Leonard you mentioned obviously Amazon launching this chip obviously Amazon launching this chip obviously Amazon launching this chip let's say 100 episodes later we still let's say 100 episodes later we still let's say 100 episodes later we still going to be talking about Quantum and we going to be talking about Quantum and we going to be talking about Quantum and we still going to be talking about the still going to be talking about the still going to be talking about the metaverse what you think we're gonna be metaverse what you think we're gonna be metaverse what you think we're gonna be talking about in 100 episodes time

talking about in 100 episodes time talking about in 100 episodes time yeah oh no I think you know think about yeah oh no I think you know think about yeah oh no I think you know think about what we're talking about now uh we were what we're talking about now uh we were what we're talking about now uh we were saying five years ago and I I got to be saying five years ago and I I got to be saying five years ago and I I got to be honest guys we're you know I think five honest guys we're you know I think five honest guys we're you know I think five years ago we were right about a lot of years ago we were right about a lot of years ago we were right about a lot of stuff so I don't know in five years I stuff so I don't know in five years I stuff so I don't know in five years I don't know what we' be talking about but don't know what we' be talking about but don't know what we' be talking about but I what we're talkinging about now is I what we're talkinging about now is I what we're talkinging about now is probably more sensible than what people probably more sensible than what people probably more sensible than what people are talking about today in five years are talking about today in five years are talking about today in five years say hey look we're we're right we're all say hey look we're we're right we're all say hey look we're we're right we're all gonna be in pods in Five Years bro gonna be in pods in Five Years bro gonna be in pods in Five Years bro yeah we all be living in the 51st and yeah we all be living in the 51st and yeah we all be living in the 51st and 52nd States yeah that's right you're 52nd States yeah that's right you're 52nd States yeah that's right you're going to be we're going to be a battery that's what we're going to be a battery that's what you're going to be in five years you're going to be in five years you're going to be in five years remember Mark andr says you got five remember Mark andr says you got five remember Mark andr says you got five years to make as much money as you can years to make as much money as you can years to make as much money as you can and then it's over so get after it folks and then it's over so get after it folks and then it's over so get after it folks and then get your bunker down on the and then get your bunker down on the and then get your bunker down on the South Island in New Zealand with a bunch South Island in New Zealand with a bunch South Island in New Zealand with a bunch of 50 cal machine guns and just that's of 50 cal machine guns and just that's of 50 cal machine guns and just that's what you got to what you got to what you got to do I'm here to help I'm here to help we do I'm here to help I'm here to help we do I'm here to help I'm here to help we be are you be are you be are you Texan hell yeah hell yeah I'm a Texan Texan hell yeah hell yeah I'm a Texan Texan hell yeah hell yeah I'm a Texan I know the real I know the real I know the real world they're coming for you there will world they're coming for you there will world they're coming for you there will be an additional window in in our Zoom be an additional window in in our Zoom be an additional window in in our Zoom chat and this one will be purely chat and this one will be purely chat and this one will be purely artificial I'm sure yeah we're already artificial I'm sure yeah we're already artificial I'm sure yeah we're already seeing that sometimes where it's taking seeing that sometimes where it's taking seeing that sometimes where it's taking notes we will we will have an AGI friend notes we will we will have an AGI friend notes we will we will have an AGI friend talking with with us in five years in

talking with with us in five years in talking with with us in five years in this a coffee talk show if we are still this a coffee talk show if we are still this a coffee talk show if we are still doing it I'm pretty convinced of that doing it I'm pretty convinced of that doing it I'm pretty convinced of that and and they will be funnier than us and and they will be funnier than us and and they will be funnier than us yeah true it'll be trained on like 250 yeah true it'll be trained on like 250 yeah true it'll be trained on like 250 episodes I don't know maybe it'll get us episodes I don't know maybe it'll get us episodes I don't know maybe it'll get us in trouble like uh the dictation L in trouble like uh the dictation L in trouble like uh the dictation L function in uh function in uh function in uh iOS can we make it a French AI agent iOS can we make it a French AI agent iOS can we make it a French AI agent please yeah you will be able to make it please yeah you will be able to make it please yeah you will be able to make it you will be able to make it look and you will be able to make it look and you will be able to make it look and speak whatever language this you can speak whatever language this you can speak whatever language this you can already do it already do I mean the already do it already do I mean the already do it already do I mean the translation cap is just it's a Nob translation cap is just it's a Nob translation cap is just it's a Nob brainer now yeah my agent's going to be brainer now yeah my agent's going to be brainer now yeah my agent's going to be trained on Rodney changer field trained on Rodney changer field trained on Rodney changer field basically yeah that' be great maybe basically yeah that' be great maybe basically yeah that' be great maybe there will be several of them and they there will be several of them and they there will be several of them and they will do the the whole will do the the whole will do the the whole show yeah Richard prior I mean no but show yeah Richard prior I mean no but show yeah Richard prior I mean no but you know uh Tom that question you're you know uh Tom that question you're you know uh Tom that question you're asking I mean geez um you know some of asking I mean geez um you know some of asking I mean geez um you know some of our first episodes were around uh our first episodes were around uh our first episodes were around uh digital digital digital twin um you know we talked a lot about twin um you know we talked a lot about twin um you know we talked a lot about digital twin we talked about um we digital twin we talked about um we digital twin we talked about um we talked about Edge right at the beginning talked about Edge right at the beginning talked about Edge right at the beginning blockchain yeah Edge blockchain yeah Edge blockchain yeah Edge Computing yeah we covered everything Computing yeah we covered everything Computing yeah we covered everything actually back then and we were done yeah actually back then and we were done yeah actually back then and we were done yeah nfts as well nfts as well nfts as well no we did n and know and at the time no we did n and know and at the time no we did n and know and at the time those were at their Peak you know and um those were at their Peak you know and um those were at their Peak you know and um there were a lot of folks out there at there were a lot of folks out there at there were a lot of folks out there at the time saying blockchain is going to

the time saying blockchain is going to the time saying blockchain is going to change the world you know and it didn't change the world you know and it didn't change the world you know and it didn't happen it turned and then the crypto happen it turned and then the crypto happen it turned and then the crypto Community appropriated Community appropriated Community appropriated blockchain and then it's used for blockchain and then it's used for blockchain and then it's used for whatever the hell it's used for right whatever the hell it's used for right whatever the hell it's used for right now but it it it's not changing now but it it it's not changing now but it it it's not changing economies right um it's creating a new economies right um it's creating a new economies right um it's creating a new one um yeah because we don't want that one um yeah because we don't want that one um yeah because we don't want that fiat currency anymore yeah Ransom fiat currency anymore yeah Ransom fiat currency anymore yeah Ransom application ransomware so I mean I don't application ransomware so I mean I don't application ransomware so I mean I don't know um like I said I I you know I think know um like I said I I you know I think know um like I said I I you know I think what doesn't survive is the hype the what doesn't survive is the hype the what doesn't survive is the hype the hype narratives I think that's what hype narratives I think that's what hype narratives I think that's what we've proved on this show uh the hype we've proved on this show uh the hype we've proved on this show uh the hype doesn't survive and so whatever whatever doesn't survive and so whatever whatever doesn't survive and so whatever whatever nonsense people are talking about right nonsense people are talking about right nonsense people are talking about right now that's going to die off that's for now that's going to die off that's for now that's going to die off that's for certain so I don't know okay I disagree certain so I don't know okay I disagree certain so I don't know okay I disagree with that I think the hype evolves with that I think the hype evolves with that I think the hype evolves Tey no but people overestimate the Tey no but people overestimate the Tey no but people overestimate the impact in the shortterm that for sure impact in the shortterm that for sure impact in the shortterm that for sure which creates that hype but everybody which creates that hype but everybody which creates that hype but everybody underestimate the impact in the long run underestimate the impact in the long run underestimate the impact in the long run too so as mentioned with too so as mentioned with too so as mentioned with no not everybody so it's I love when no not everybody so it's I love when no not everybody so it's I love when people say this because I have to people say this because I have to people say this because I have to correct them the people who under correct them the people who under correct them the people who under overestimate the technology at any given overestimate the technology at any given overestimate the technology at any given you know early on are the ones who don't you know early on are the ones who don't you know early on are the ones who don't understand it the ones who don't understand it the ones who don't understand it the ones who don't underestimate it or you know uh in the underestimate it or you know uh in the underestimate it or you know uh in the long term okay are the ones who actually long term okay are the ones who actually long term okay are the ones who actually um get it because they never subscribe

um get it because they never subscribe um get it because they never subscribe to the nonsense to begin with the people to the nonsense to begin with the people to the nonsense to begin with the people who subscribe to the nonsense they fall who subscribe to the nonsense they fall who subscribe to the nonsense they fall into the trough of dis tion we see that into the trough of dis tion we see that into the trough of dis tion we see that with 5G right now we've seen it with iot with 5G right now we've seen it with iot with 5G right now we've seen it with iot so you can't give everyone Equal Credit so you can't give everyone Equal Credit so you can't give everyone Equal Credit it's the people who believe in the it's the people who believe in the it's the people who believe in the nonsense who suffer because you know nonsense who suffer because you know nonsense who suffer because you know what they put their money in it they're what they put their money in it they're what they put their money in it they're going to lose it they're going to be going to lose it they're going to be going to lose it they're going to be disappointed with the technology because disappointed with the technology because disappointed with the technology because they subscribe to Notions that are not they subscribe to Notions that are not they subscribe to Notions that are not true that are detached from reality and true that are detached from reality and true that are detached from reality and then when the the technology starts to then when the the technology starts to then when the the technology starts to reach Market Readiness has matured these reach Market Readiness has matured these reach Market Readiness has matured these people are going to be the ones who miss people are going to be the ones who miss people are going to be the ones who miss out on the boat oh is the people who are out on the boat oh is the people who are out on the boat oh is the people who are tuned into the technology uh as a you tuned into the technology uh as a you tuned into the technology uh as a you know along its road map they're the ones know along its road map they're the ones know along its road map they're the ones who are going to be able to capitalize who are going to be able to capitalize who are going to be able to capitalize on you know the actual opportunities on you know the actual opportunities on you know the actual opportunities when the technology is ready to express when the technology is ready to express when the technology is ready to express itself in a a valuable way so I I you itself in a a valuable way so I I you itself in a a valuable way so I I you know that I always like to qualify it know that I always like to qualify it know that I always like to qualify it because it's completely to sit because it's completely to sit because it's completely to sit there and say that everybody uh there and say that everybody uh there and say that everybody uh perceived the technology in the same way perceived the technology in the same way perceived the technology in the same way and have the same level of discern they and have the same level of discern they and have the same level of discern they don't they really don't so man leard you don't they really don't so man leard you don't they really don't so man leard you sound like some kind of analyst no I sound like some kind of analyst no I sound like some kind of analyst no I don't actually I don't actually yes I do don't actually I don't actually yes I do don't actually I don't actually yes I do I sound like a a real analyst not the I sound like a a real analyst not the I sound like a a real analyst not the ones that go around floating height ones that go around floating height ones that go around floating height right that's what I'm known for I'm right that's what I'm known for I'm right that's what I'm known for I'm known for that I I talk like this and I known for that I I talk like this and I known for that I I talk like this and I do some of the most important uh work do some of the most important uh work do some of the most important uh work for my clients I mean that I I

for my clients I mean that I I for my clients I mean that I I could have never imagined doing when I could have never imagined doing when I could have never imagined doing when I was at IBM PWC Gartner anything like was at IBM PWC Gartner anything like was at IBM PWC Gartner anything like that so you're making it real yeah that so you're making it real yeah that so you're making it real yeah making it really freaking real and making it really freaking real and making it really freaking real and that's why you know that's why you live that's why you know that's why you live that's why you know that's why you live in a use that's why I'm not looking for in a use that's why I'm not looking for in a use that's why I'm not looking for a job from any of you guys right right yeah oh uh I think in a 100 episodes yeah oh uh I think in a 100 episodes yeah oh uh I think in a 100 episodes we're still going to be talking about we're still going to be talking about we're still going to be talking about the same stuff if I look the same stuff if I look the same stuff if I look at because there's always this Hardware at because there's always this Hardware at because there's always this Hardware software kind of you know limitations so software kind of you know limitations so software kind of you know limitations so as you get new hard Ware like for as you get new hard Ware like for as you get new hard Ware like for example I'm hearing npu more in the last example I'm hearing npu more in the last example I'm hearing npu more in the last year before it was all GPU GPU Farms year before it was all GPU GPU Farms year before it was all GPU GPU Farms like you know and so I think having that like you know and so I think having that like you know and so I think having that kind of development cycle of how easy kind of development cycle of how easy kind of development cycle of how easy can we make it for the customers there's can we make it for the customers there's can we make it for the customers there's a lot of development that comes in to a lot of development that comes in to a lot of development that comes in to making something really complex very making something really complex very making something really complex very simple right and that just uh makes your simple right and that just uh makes your simple right and that just uh makes your target market larger that's a difference target market larger that's a difference target market larger that's a difference between success I feel like in the OT between success I feel like in the OT between success I feel like in the OT side of things to have a maintenance side of things to have a maintenance side of things to have a maintenance technician being able to deploy technician being able to deploy technician being able to deploy predictive maintenance Solutions and predictive maintenance Solutions and predictive maintenance Solutions and leaning on their expertise maybe it's leaning on their expertise maybe it's leaning on their expertise maybe it's wiring maybe it's PLC register mapping wiring maybe it's PLC register mapping wiring maybe it's PLC register mapping things like that and then getting on the things like that and then getting on the things like that and then getting on the other end these these turn key turn off other end these these turn key turn off other end these these turn key turn off this valve and mapping that I still this valve and mapping that I still this valve and mapping that I still haven't seen because of the moving haven't seen because of the moving haven't seen because of the moving Target I haven't seen someone simplify Target I haven't seen someone simplify Target I haven't seen someone simplify that enough to where I'm comfortable that enough to where I'm comfortable that enough to where I'm comfortable saying yes this is going to explode I saying yes this is going to explode I saying yes this is going to explode I think we're really close to it with all think we're really close to it with all think we're really close to it with all of the different programming assist

of the different programming assist of the different programming assist tools and I think things like that so I tools and I think things like that so I tools and I think things like that so I think we're a few years out but once think we're a few years out but once think we're a few years out but once it's that moving Target of having the it's that moving Target of having the it's that moving Target of having the software compatible with the hardware software compatible with the hardware software compatible with the hardware making it simple enough for the people making it simple enough for the people making it simple enough for the people who are actually addressing these issues who are actually addressing these issues who are actually addressing these issues these manual issues on the ground being these manual issues on the ground being these manual issues on the ground being able to deploy them and take ownership able to deploy them and take ownership able to deploy them and take ownership of it so I think I think it's gonna of it so I think I think it's gonna of it so I think I think it's gonna we're probably going to be talking about we're probably going to be talking about we're probably going to be talking about the same thing but I'm hoping that all the same thing but I'm hoping that all the same thing but I'm hoping that all of that stuff's easier and and much more of that stuff's easier and and much more of that stuff's easier and and much more user friendly yeah and it always gets user friendly yeah and it always gets user friendly yeah and it always gets easier right um and the economics always easier right um and the economics always easier right um and the economics always get better but what it tell I think it get better but what it tell I think it get better but what it tell I think it takes is foresight to figure out what takes is foresight to figure out what takes is foresight to figure out what the what does the new architecture look the what does the new architecture look the what does the new architecture look like and for those who are like and for those who are like and for those who are Architects um you know figuring out how Architects um you know figuring out how Architects um you know figuring out how do you create value propositions against do you create value propositions against do you create value propositions against the Brownfield realities right and how the Brownfield realities right and how the Brownfield realities right and how do you make these new architectures do you make these new architectures do you make these new architectures relevant at a certain scale where you relevant at a certain scale where you relevant at a certain scale where you can actually sell stuff otherwise you're can actually sell stuff otherwise you're can actually sell stuff otherwise you're always bumping into like dirty laundry always bumping into like dirty laundry always bumping into like dirty laundry Dynamics or Legacy thinking that Dynamics or Legacy thinking that Dynamics or Legacy thinking that everyone and moans about uh but everyone and moans about uh but everyone and moans about uh but you never are able to to actually you never are able to to actually you never are able to to actually trigger that you know revolutionary sale trigger that you know revolutionary sale trigger that you know revolutionary sale or unleash that revolutionary Market or unleash that revolutionary Market or unleash that revolutionary Market that these forecast suggest right and um that these forecast suggest right and um that these forecast suggest right and um but no that's why it's great to have but no that's why it's great to have but no that's why it's great to have like these grounded conversations around like these grounded conversations around like these grounded conversations around technology and solutions because it it's technology and solutions because it it's technology and solutions because it it's really not out there you know there's really not out there you know there's really not out there you know there's like a lot of marketing that like a lot of marketing that like a lot of marketing that dominates everyone's thinking you know

dominates everyone's thinking you know dominates everyone's thinking you know and the technical stuff doesn't get and the technical stuff doesn't get and the technical stuff doesn't get credit man it it it's it's freaking credit man it it it's it's freaking credit man it it it's it's freaking ridiculous I found the best thing to do ridiculous I found the best thing to do ridiculous I found the best thing to do with a big Brownfield situation like an with a big Brownfield situation like an with a big Brownfield situation like an old factory and everything like that is old factory and everything like that is old factory and everything like that is just turn it into a brewery and just turn it into a brewery and just turn it into a brewery and restaurant there you go it has a cool look to it you know go it has a cool look to it you know people like oh yeah look at these old people like oh yeah look at these old people like oh yeah look at these old machines and stuff makes more money probably yeah Barbecue Shack as well probably yeah Barbecue Shack as well right so you have the brewery part and right so you have the brewery part and right so you have the brewery part and Bar barue part right yeah there's what Bar barue part right yeah there's what Bar barue part right yeah there's what is there's there's laws of nature in the is there's there's laws of nature in the is there's there's laws of nature in the world like the best barbecue places are world like the best barbecue places are world like the best barbecue places are in what used to be a former gas station in what used to be a former gas station in what used to be a former gas station right is't that true former gas stations right is't that true former gas stations right is't that true former gas stations they turn them into a barbecue place and they turn them into a barbecue place and they turn them into a barbecue place and that's the best so that's that's one of that's the best so that's that's one of that's the best so that's that's one of the laws of nature that we have to stay the laws of nature that we have to stay the laws of nature that we have to stay within within within right so turn Brownfield factories into right so turn Brownfield factories into right so turn Brownfield factories into breweries maybe sell pizza by a slice or breweries maybe sell pizza by a slice or breweries maybe sell pizza by a slice or something and craft beer yeah hey just something and craft beer yeah hey just something and craft beer yeah hey just what are some of the key texts I wasn't what are some of the key texts I wasn't what are some of the key texts I wasn't there at Edge the EDI event I mean what there at Edge the EDI event I mean what there at Edge the EDI event I mean what did you guys what did you guys learn did you guys what did you guys learn did you guys what did you guys learn what was like the cool stuff I I was what was like the cool stuff I I was what was like the cool stuff I I was goingon to chime in a little bit because goingon to chime in a little bit because goingon to chime in a little bit because we had a really good talk this morning we had a really good talk this morning we had a really good talk this morning and we'll put it on our YouTube channel and we'll put it on our YouTube channel and we'll put it on our YouTube channel from um Professor kii py from UT San from um Professor kii py from UT San from um Professor kii py from UT San Antonio about neuromorphic Computing Antonio about neuromorphic Computing Antonio about neuromorphic Computing which is kind of a a misunderstood thing which is kind of a a misunderstood thing which is kind of a a misunderstood thing but it's fascinating and she kind of but it's fascinating and she kind of but it's fascinating and she kind of went through some really explanation went through some really explanation went through some really explanation she's one of the leading Minds in she's one of the leading Minds in she's one of the leading Minds in neuromorphic Computing and she gave a

neuromorphic Computing and she gave a neuromorphic Computing and she gave a really good I think talk morning about really good I think talk morning about really good I think talk morning about it do you remember what she said about it do you remember what she said about it do you remember what she said about the human brain the power it requires to the human brain the power it requires to the human brain the power it requires to do all what it does it's like 20 watts do all what it does it's like 20 watts do all what it does it's like 20 watts 20 watts yeah two two lead lights and do 20 watts yeah two two lead lights and do 20 watts yeah two two lead lights and do that 20 watts also she was talking about that 20 watts also she was talking about that 20 watts also she was talking about continuous learning so and this is an continuous learning so and this is an continuous learning so and this is an area that hasn't been figured out yet area that hasn't been figured out yet area that hasn't been figured out yet but the idea of continuous learning Ai but the idea of continuous learning Ai but the idea of continuous learning Ai and you know you said human body I mean and you know you said human body I mean and you know you said human body I mean you know we've evolved to figure out you know we've evolved to figure out you know we've evolved to figure out continuous learning like we there is a continuous learning like we there is a continuous learning like we there is a way and you know that's what they're way and you know that's what they're way and you know that's what they're trying to do in software and Hardware trying to do in software and Hardware trying to do in software and Hardware right now is like if if you can do more right now is like if if you can do more right now is like if if you can do more continuous learning then you don't have continuous learning then you don't have continuous learning then you don't have these big you know kind of training kind these big you know kind of training kind these big you know kind of training kind of issues yeah so it's really of issues yeah so it's really of issues yeah so it's really interesting I think the next five years interesting I think the next five years interesting I think the next five years or so I think neuromorphic can apply it or so I think neuromorphic can apply it or so I think neuromorphic can apply it doesn't apply to everything but there's doesn't apply to everything but there's doesn't apply to everything but there's a lot of scenarios where I think it's a lot of scenarios where I think it's a lot of scenarios where I think it's going to be really useful so that was a going to be really useful so that was a going to be really useful so that was a big takeway for me I don't want to put big takeway for me I don't want to put big takeway for me I don't want to put you on the spot but is there like a one you on the spot but is there like a one you on the spot but is there like a one or two sentence definition for what or two sentence definition for what or two sentence definition for what neuromorphic Computing is well I think neuromorphic Computing is well I think neuromorphic Computing is well I think it's like you know it's basically AI it's like you know it's basically AI it's like you know it's basically AI That's mimicking the human brain and and That's mimicking the human brain and and That's mimicking the human brain and and you know all of I would say biological you know all of I would say biological you know all of I would say biological brain not only human brains yeah the brain not only human brains yeah the brain not only human brains yeah the biological brain biological biological brain biological biological brain biological brains power that's both with power as brains power that's both with power as brains power that's both with power as well right so given the human brain is well right so given the human brain is well right so given the human brain is 20 watts neuromorphic mimics the fact 20 watts neuromorphic mimics the fact 20 watts neuromorphic mimics the fact that it can be done on a low power basis that it can be done on a low power basis that it can be done on a low power basis as well as biologically which is really as well as biologically which is really as well as biologically which is really interesting I think the big key on that interesting I think the big key on that interesting I think the big key on that is to find architecture that can work is to find architecture that can work is to find architecture that can work analogic instead of digital because what analogic instead of digital because what analogic instead of digital because what cost a lot of energy is all those cost a lot of energy is all those cost a lot of energy is all those conversion that we have to do from the

conversion that we have to do from the conversion that we have to do from the world which is analog world which is analog world which is analog and digital things and then reconvert and digital things and then reconvert and digital things and then reconvert Etc which the brain doesn't doesn't do Etc which the brain doesn't doesn't do Etc which the brain doesn't doesn't do at all and that was interesting to at all and that was interesting to at all and that was interesting to connect that to the talk yesterday connect that to the talk yesterday connect that to the talk yesterday yesterday of the guy about the Wake word yesterday of the guy about the Wake word yesterday of the guy about the Wake word yeah the Wake word thing which is yeah the Wake word thing which is yeah the Wake word thing which is costing a lot of energy when it goes costing a lot of energy when it goes costing a lot of energy when it goes digital and so they've been developing digital and so they've been developing digital and so they've been developing something which is full analog to so the something which is full analog to so the something which is full analog to so the Wake word like hello hello Alexa or Wake word like hello hello Alexa or Wake word like hello hello Alexa or whatever right and they can divide by 25 whatever right and they can divide by 25 whatever right and they can divide by 25 the PO consumption of that yeah the PO consumption of that yeah the PO consumption of that yeah basically digital Computing just basically digital Computing just basically digital Computing just generates heat you know and so it's like generates heat you know and so it's like generates heat you know and so it's like we have to figure out more more we have to figure out more more we have to figure out more more efficient ways of going from analog to efficient ways of going from analog to efficient ways of going from analog to digital than what now just I guess the digital than what now just I guess the digital than what now just I guess the answer is just stay analog stay analog answer is just stay analog stay analog answer is just stay analog stay analog exactly actually that's what they talked exactly actually that's what they talked exactly actually that's what they talked about at um of tubes about at um of tubes about at um of tubes tubes you build a business around around tubes you build a business around around tubes you build a business around around weight loss by by thinking right or weight loss by by thinking right or weight loss by by thinking right or maybe doing some conversion analog to maybe doing some conversion analog to maybe doing some conversion analog to digital and and you're going to lose digital and and you're going to lose digital and and you're going to lose your weight because you're consuming your weight because you're consuming your weight because you're consuming power in your body like that math power in your body like that math power in your body like that math calculations in your head to lose weight calculations in your head to lose weight calculations in your head to lose weight or something yeah like just like or something yeah like just like or something yeah like just like meditate and do math calculation and I meditate and do math calculation and I meditate and do math calculation and I don't know that maybe some chip that you don't know that maybe some chip that you don't know that maybe some chip that you have to power to I don't know to do this have to power to I don't know to do this have to power to I don't know to do this conversion yeah I don't know you mean conversion yeah I don't know you mean conversion yeah I don't know you mean for like that electrolysis stuff that for like that electrolysis stuff that for like that electrolysis stuff that they do to lose back to the point where they do to lose back to the point where they do to lose back to the point where there's money to make somewhere right so there's money to make somewhere right so there's money to make somewhere right so if there's money to make people were if there's money to make people were if there's money to make people were interested I think neuromorphic interested I think neuromorphic interested I think neuromorphic Computing when you say less power I

Computing when you say less power I Computing when you say less power I think less heat right and I think more think less heat right and I think more think less heat right and I think more remote applications so there's still a remote applications so there's still a remote applications so there's still a lot of solutions out there that need to lot of solutions out there that need to lot of solutions out there that need to be oil and gas perfect example sitting be oil and gas perfect example sitting be oil and gas perfect example sitting in the sun in a cabinet all day that in the sun in a cabinet all day that in the sun in a cabinet all day that stuff gets hot so you're going to put an stuff gets hot so you're going to put an stuff gets hot so you're going to put an Nvidia GPU in there H I I don't I don't Nvidia GPU in there H I I don't I don't Nvidia GPU in there H I I don't I don't see that right that's not really you see that right that's not really you see that right that's not really you need four black wells in that that's need four black wells in that that's need four black wells in that that's what I'm recommending right generate what I'm recommending right generate what I'm recommending right generate even more Heat Smart agriculture another even more Heat Smart agriculture another even more Heat Smart agriculture another one right A lot of these more black one right A lot of these more black one right A lot of these more black Wells one black well per crop Wells one black well per crop Wells one black well per crop some battery packs right that they're some battery packs right that they're some battery packs right that they're running on solar so a lot of the use running on solar so a lot of the use running on solar so a lot of the use case and applications you're not going case and applications you're not going case and applications you're not going to run these power hungry gpus so one to run these power hungry gpus so one to run these power hungry gpus so one nuclear reactor per acre the Nvidia nuclear reactor per acre the Nvidia nuclear reactor per acre the Nvidia sales results were surprising to me sales results were surprising to me sales results were surprising to me because I'm just like every time I'm because I'm just like every time I'm because I'm just like every time I'm like uh how long until everyone figures like uh how long until everyone figures like uh how long until everyone figures out it's like stepping on your gas pedal out it's like stepping on your gas pedal out it's like stepping on your gas pedal when you drive around all day every day when you drive around all day every day when you drive around all day every day like that that's that's not a good uh like that that's that's not a good uh like that that's that's not a good uh way to run your business you say way to run your business you say way to run your business you say efficiency is the new currency used to efficiency is the new currency used to efficiency is the new currency used to be latency is the new currency now be latency is the new currency now be latency is the new currency now efficiency is the new currencies so and efficiency is the new currencies so and efficiency is the new currencies so and by the way one of the aha moment for me by the way one of the aha moment for me by the way one of the aha moment for me during those three days is to realize during those three days is to realize during those three days is to realize that as for arm you know the arm that as for arm you know the arm that as for arm you know the arm architecture were built for embedded architecture were built for embedded architecture were built for embedded initially and now servers since two or initially and now servers since two or initially and now servers since two or three years because they are more energy three years because they are more energy three years because they are more energy efficient Etc I really realize that efficient Etc I really realize that efficient Etc I really realize that everything we do in the edge will be everything we do in the edge will be everything we do in the edge will be useful for all those problem of useful for all those problem of useful for all those problem of efficiency and poor consumption of the efficiency and poor consumption of the efficiency and poor consumption of the AI on infrastructure because we are way AI on infrastructure because we are way AI on infrastructure because we are way more used to that to deal with low more used to that to deal with low more used to that to deal with low energy to deal with those kind of energy to deal with those kind of energy to deal with those kind of constraints so we will drive in inations

constraints so we will drive in inations constraints so we will drive in inations that will be useful for the world the that will be useful for the world the that will be useful for the world the EDG the world exactly yeah that's they EDG the world exactly yeah that's they EDG the world exactly yeah that's they do the money not us do the money not us do the money not us but can we just like can we just but can we just like can we just but can we just like can we just repurpose or deploy 486 PCS from 1992 oh repurpose or deploy 486 PCS from 1992 oh repurpose or deploy 486 PCS from 1992 oh running running toss you know can try running running toss you know can try running running toss you know can try and Run Deep seek well hey remember we and Run Deep seek well hey remember we and Run Deep seek well hey remember we used to do cereal ports and stuff on used to do cereal ports and stuff on used to do cereal ports and stuff on those machines back then it sounds like those machines back then it sounds like those machines back then it sounds like Edge Computing maybe you know Edge Computing maybe you know Edge Computing maybe you know run all kinds of things yeah and we only run all kinds of things yeah and we only run all kinds of things yeah and we only had like four mega ram and we did had like four mega ram and we did had like four mega ram and we did everything here's the ironic thing that everything here's the ironic thing that everything here's the ironic thing that that computer you're talking about would that computer you're talking about would that computer you're talking about would be able to process simple math a hell of be able to process simple math a hell of be able to process simple math a hell of a lot faster than uh you know any of a lot faster than uh you know any of a lot faster than uh you know any of these large language ore models in the these large language ore models in the these large language ore models in the cloud so I mean I know that you you said cloud so I mean I know that you you said cloud so I mean I know that you you said that as a joke but there's truth in it that as a joke but there's truth in it that as a joke but there's truth in it right all right we're GNA launch a Doss right all right we're GNA launch a Doss right all right we're GNA launch a Doss for 486 AI company this be Intel's new for 486 AI company this be Intel's new for 486 AI company this be Intel's new strategy is like going back to 486 and strategy is like going back to 486 and strategy is like going back to 486 and and this is the minel comes back guys I love it what guys I love it what happening all right so hey wait a minute happening all right so hey wait a minute happening all right so hey wait a minute guys so Dimitri is making a lot of stink guys so Dimitri is making a lot of stink guys so Dimitri is making a lot of stink faces over there Dimitri don't don't faces over there Dimitri don't don't faces over there Dimitri don't don't don't act like you know we don't notice don't act like you know we don't notice don't act like you know we don't notice it so what are you going to say you want it so what are you going to say you want it so what are you going to say you want to say I was thinking that we should to say I was thinking that we should to say I was thinking that we should invite Rick back try no no because he's

invite Rick back try no no because he's invite Rick back try no no because he's the one saying that the the the current the one saying that the the the current the one saying that the the the current you know J or AI approach is brute force you know J or AI approach is brute force you know J or AI approach is brute force and doesn't compare to anything that the and doesn't compare to anything that the and doesn't compare to anything that the brain does wrong path so that's what I brain does wrong path so that's what I brain does wrong path so that's what I was that's what I was just was that's what I was just was that's what I was just thinking but you know it's interesting I thinking but you know it's interesting I thinking but you know it's interesting I have to look into this whatever you call have to look into this whatever you call have to look into this whatever you call morphic thing but I think one of the big morphic thing but I think one of the big morphic thing but I think one of the big advantage that those system have is that advantage that those system have is that advantage that those system have is that they are very close to the sensors they are very close to the sensors they are very close to the sensors because you know our biological brains because you know our biological brains because you know our biological brains are tightly integrated with sensors so are tightly integrated with sensors so are tightly integrated with sensors so the the Lear learning is very very the the Lear learning is very very the the Lear learning is very very different from the the digital way we do different from the the digital way we do different from the the digital way we do things things things so so so multi-inputs we have we have eyesight we multi-inputs we have we have eyesight we multi-inputs we have we have eyesight we have hearing anytime I think a sensor have hearing anytime I think a sensor have hearing anytime I think a sensor input on the edge I think of okay you input on the edge I think of okay you input on the edge I think of okay you can take your car to a mechanic he can can take your car to a mechanic he can can take your car to a mechanic he can hear it right that's an input that you hear it right that's an input that you hear it right that's an input that you can do right you can see issues and I can do right you can see issues and I can do right you can see issues and I think I love the edge and the predictive think I love the edge and the predictive think I love the edge and the predictive maintenance like we were talking about maintenance like we were talking about maintenance like we were talking about earlier because a lot of these places earlier because a lot of these places earlier because a lot of these places could take a day to schedule or they could take a day to schedule or they could take a day to schedule or they could have technicians man in area right could have technicians man in area right could have technicians man in area right that's lost productivity downtime so that's lost productivity downtime so that's lost productivity downtime so just basic statistical multisensor just basic statistical multisensor just basic statistical multisensor inputs on the edge that can save a lot inputs on the edge that can save a lot inputs on the edge that can save a lot of money really quick but still that's of money really quick but still that's of money really quick but still that's been true five years ago right why been true five years ago right why been true five years ago right why aren't more people doing that well so so aren't more people doing that well so so aren't more people doing that well so so going back to what are we going to talk going back to what are we going to talk going back to what are we going to talk in five years I mean we we started the in five years I mean we we started the in five years I mean we we started the conversation about you know monitoring conversation about you know monitoring conversation about you know monitoring and observability and I mean c has been and observability and I mean c has been and observability and I mean c has been pitching that with C3 in 2009 and we are pitching that with C3 in 2009 and we are pitching that with C3 in 2009 and we are I mean 15 years later it's not I mean 15 years later it's not I mean 15 years later it's not widespread anywhere

widespread anywhere widespread anywhere so yeah oh my God I just read the so yeah oh my God I just read the so yeah oh my God I just read the funniest thing you're going to love it funniest thing you're going to love it funniest thing you're going to love it Leonard because you're Mr crypto not Leonard because you're Mr crypto not Leonard because you're Mr crypto not like there's a woman on Facebook who's like there's a woman on Facebook who's like there's a woman on Facebook who's like Grandma age like friend of my mom's like Grandma age like friend of my mom's like Grandma age like friend of my mom's and she just posted that she just became and she just posted that she just became and she just posted that she just became a certified cryptocurrency expert she a certified cryptocurrency expert she a certified cryptocurrency expert she took she took some class and got a took she took some class and got a took she took some class and got a diploma like oh God and I was like maybe diploma like oh God and I was like maybe diploma like oh God and I was like maybe her account was hacked or something am I reading this right oh my God oh my am I reading this right oh my God oh my God she's in the blockchain yeah oh my God she's in the blockchain yeah oh my God she's in the blockchain yeah oh my God that's too funny but hey look you God that's too funny but hey look you God that's too funny but hey look you know what um Demetri I think um I mean know what um Demetri I think um I mean know what um Demetri I think um I mean guys dirty laundry you know I think guys dirty laundry you know I think guys dirty laundry you know I think that's like the biggest problem you know that's like the biggest problem you know that's like the biggest problem you know we we scratch our heads wondering why we we scratch our heads wondering why we we scratch our heads wondering why things don't get uh adopted for probably things don't get uh adopted for probably things don't get uh adopted for probably the most obvious reason that we don't the most obvious reason that we don't the most obvious reason that we don't really contemplate and I think that's really contemplate and I think that's really contemplate and I think that's like one one of the the most important like one one of the the most important like one one of the the most important Concepts to come out of the five years Concepts to come out of the five years Concepts to come out of the five years that we've been doing this thing is that that we've been doing this thing is that that we've been doing this thing is that whole it's that dirty laundry episode so whole it's that dirty laundry episode so whole it's that dirty laundry episode so folks if you haven't watched a dirty folks if you haven't watched a dirty folks if you haven't watched a dirty laundry episode watch laundry episode watch laundry episode watch it because that that is the problem it because that that is the problem it because that that is the problem right um there's right um there's right um there's there's everyone's trying to sell there's everyone's trying to sell there's everyone's trying to sell observability but there's Dirty Laundry observability but there's Dirty Laundry observability but there's Dirty Laundry problems that certain stakeholders just problems that certain stakeholders just problems that certain stakeholders just don't want to draw attention to like don't want to draw attention to like don't want to draw attention to like exactly what you're talking about Rob exactly what you're talking about Rob exactly what you're talking about Rob and so actually what you're going to say

and so actually what you're going to say and so actually what you're going to say to that audience over there in Houston to that audience over there in Houston to that audience over there in Houston is probably the most important thing to is probably the most important thing to is probably the most important thing to be be be said you know that the freaking headwind said you know that the freaking headwind said you know that the freaking headwind right dude that that is the right dude that that is the right dude that that is the headwind I think a headwind I think a headwind I think a headwind what you face when you are an a headwind what you face when you are an a headwind what you face when you are an a Company CEO and what I lived for a few Company CEO and what I lived for a few Company CEO and what I lived for a few years is you have a countless amount of years is you have a countless amount of years is you have a countless amount of problems to deal with and you cannot problems to deal with and you cannot problems to deal with and you cannot solve everything so some point you know solve everything so some point you know solve everything so some point you know that a lot of things are suboptimal in that a lot of things are suboptimal in that a lot of things are suboptimal in your company but you choose the things your company but you choose the things your company but you choose the things that are the most preent issue you have that are the most preent issue you have that are the most preent issue you have pressing issues you have and so probably pressing issues you have and so probably pressing issues you have and so probably that topic of connecting vales Etc they that topic of connecting vales Etc they that topic of connecting vales Etc they know it would be better and it's like know it would be better and it's like know it would be better and it's like silly to send a guy and do three hours silly to send a guy and do three hours silly to send a guy and do three hours of Drive Etc but out of all the problems of Drive Etc but out of all the problems of Drive Etc but out of all the problems they have this one is probably low they have this one is probably low they have this one is probably low priority because well they waste money priority because well they waste money priority because well they waste money anywhere uh they waste money on waste anywhere uh they waste money on waste anywhere uh they waste money on waste money on some other topics and way more money on some other topics and way more money on some other topics and way more and so they have you only have 24 hours and so they have you only have 24 hours and so they have you only have 24 hours a day as a leader and your people too a day as a leader and your people too a day as a leader and your people too and so you have to prioritize so it's and so you have to prioritize so it's and so you have to prioritize so it's probably not high on the list you I probably not high on the list you I probably not high on the list you I think you're actually totally right to think you're actually totally right to think you're actually totally right to the point and I and and we talked about the point and I and and we talked about the point and I and and we talked about that in the past but I also do believe that in the past but I also do believe that in the past but I also do believe that it's very dependent on the that it's very dependent on the that it's very dependent on the industries because there are many industries because there are many industries because there are many Industries where using all these Tech Industries where using all these Tech Industries where using all these Tech will be optimization and then there is will be optimization and then there is will be optimization and then there is the perception of the reality that this the perception of the reality that this the perception of the reality that this optimization is actually not necessarily optimization is actually not necessarily optimization is actually not necessarily the priority because there are the that the priority because there are the that the priority because there are the that are more optimized there are only a few are more optimized there are only a few are more optimized there are only a few places where it's a true disruption I

places where it's a true disruption I places where it's a true disruption I would argue that electric car are one so would argue that electric car are one so would argue that electric car are one so the way we build electric car is the way we build electric car is the way we build electric car is fundamentally different but I mean oil fundamentally different but I mean oil fundamentally different but I mean oil and gas we're still pumping oil and gas and gas we're still pumping oil and gas and gas we're still pumping oil and gas and as you said the problem of the pump and as you said the problem of the pump and as you said the problem of the pump and the compressor and the and the pipes and the compressor and the and the pipes and the compressor and the and the pipes is probably more important than putting is probably more important than putting is probably more important than putting a bunch of sensors because you're a bunch of sensors because you're a bunch of sensors because you're optimizing you're not you know pumping optimizing you're not you know pumping optimizing you're not you know pumping 10 times more gas or 100 times more gas 10 times more gas or 100 times more gas 10 times more gas or 100 times more gas you're going to optimize 10 15% where do you're going to optimize 10 15% where do you're going to optimize 10 15% where do yeah you're saying so you're saying that yeah you're saying so you're saying that yeah you're saying so you're saying that the oil and gas company CEO's got 99 the oil and gas company CEO's got 99 the oil and gas company CEO's got 99 problems with driving a pickup truck to problems with driving a pickup truck to problems with driving a pickup truck to do a methane detection a't one yeah it's do a methane detection a't one yeah it's do a methane detection a't one yeah it's a small one and it could be perceived or a small one and it could be perceived or a small one and it could be perceived or reality because then the the my reality because then the the my reality because then the the my experience of the physical world the experience of the physical world the experience of the physical world the problem is that you know every freaking problem is that you know every freaking problem is that you know every freaking installation is a system integration installation is a system integration installation is a system integration project so there is no standard so there project so there is no standard so there project so there is no standard so there is no oh I just drop a bunch of sensors is no oh I just drop a bunch of sensors is no oh I just drop a bunch of sensors I push a button and I get value no it's I push a button and I get value no it's I push a button and I get value no it's never that you have to figure out what never that you have to figure out what never that you have to figure out what the freaking engineer that programmed the freaking engineer that programmed the freaking engineer that programmed the PLC who did it totally differently the PLC who did it totally differently the PLC who did it totally differently because he was in another company and because he was in another company and because he was in another company and didn't publish it because it's didn't publish it because it's didn't publish it because it's intellectual property everything is intellectual property everything is intellectual property everything is system integration in the physical world system integration in the physical world system integration in the physical world Demetri I would say that what they what Demetri I would say that what they what Demetri I would say that what they what the CEO needs to do is all he needs to the CEO needs to do is all he needs to the CEO needs to do is all he needs to do is buy a bunch of sensors write a big do is buy a bunch of sensors write a big do is buy a bunch of sensors write a big check and then magic check and then magic check and then magic happens happens happens exactly about to check preferably so on exactly about to check preferably so on exactly about to check preferably so on the topic and maybe the guy which is the topic and maybe the guy which is the topic and maybe the guy which is driving there and checking something driving there and checking something driving there and checking something does something else too meaning he's

does something else too meaning he's does something else too meaning he's probably I mean they are not stupid so probably I mean they are not stupid so probably I mean they are not stupid so they when he go there maybe he fix some they when he go there maybe he fix some they when he go there maybe he fix some stuff maybe he check some other things stuff maybe he check some other things stuff maybe he check some other things and so it's never as simple as what we and so it's never as simple as what we and so it's never as simple as what we describe in Our Deck when we say yeah I describe in Our Deck when we say yeah I describe in Our Deck when we say yeah I have a solution to do that and you'll have a solution to do that and you'll have a solution to do that and you'll save that that much money it's always save that that much money it's always save that that much money it's always more complex than it looks that's good more complex than it looks that's good more complex than it looks that's good point we'll be talking about this pickup point we'll be talking about this pickup point we'll be talking about this pickup in five years I bet you in five years I bet you in five years I bet you that well um yeah maybe the pickup will that well um yeah maybe the pickup will that well um yeah maybe the pickup will be electric by then yeah be electric by then yeah be electric by then yeah probably not driven powered yeah I mean on the on the topic powered yeah I mean on the on the topic of optimization yeah we also in the of optimization yeah we also in the of optimization yeah we also in the course of five years brought up the course of five years brought up the course of five years brought up the whole diminishing value of s Sigma so if whole diminishing value of s Sigma so if whole diminishing value of s Sigma so if you are iot guy out there selling a s you are iot guy out there selling a s you are iot guy out there selling a s Sigma Solution you're probably not going Sigma Solution you're probably not going Sigma Solution you're probably not going to get too much business to get too much business to get too much business it's a good thing that no one's selling it's a good thing that no one's selling it's a good thing that no one's selling that you know it's funny you mention that you know it's funny you mention that you know it's funny you mention that lard because we had a panel today that lard because we had a panel today that lard because we had a panel today with uh someone from the Aerospace and with uh someone from the Aerospace and with uh someone from the Aerospace and selling into um I think it was the Navy selling into um I think it was the Navy selling into um I think it was the Navy and they were saying like basically for and they were saying like basically for and they were saying like basically for AI for a lot of these Aerospace things AI for a lot of these Aerospace things AI for a lot of these Aerospace things basically they set expectations that basically they set expectations that basically they set expectations that it's 85 to 95% accurate I think so it's it's 85 to 95% accurate I think so it's it's 85 to 95% accurate I think so it's not it's not like you know 59s anymore not it's not like you know 59s anymore not it's not like you know 59s anymore like they have to reset expectations like they have to reset expectations like they have to reset expectations that things are not you're not going to that things are not you're not going to that things are not you're not going to have ai at 59s it's never going to have ai at 59s it's never going to have ai at 59s it's never going to happen so you know it's now it's like happen so you know it's now it's like happen so you know it's now it's like 90% is the goal or 85% is the goal 90% is the goal or 85% is the goal 90% is the goal or 85% is the goal that's exactly right that's just like in that's exactly right that's just like in that's exactly right that's just like in Top Gun Maverick you know when Maverick

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