IoT Coffee Talk: Episode 227 - Implosion (The IoT of Beepers and Collapsing Enterprises)

yeah [ __ ] F so you know what that was yeah [ __ ] F so you know what that was called tell me well you know how Van called tell me well you know how Van called tell me well you know how Van Halen has eruption yes yeah okay that's Halen has eruption yes yeah okay that's Halen has eruption yes yeah okay that's called implosion Bo whoa whoa whoa is this is implosion Bo whoa whoa whoa is this is this from you yes yeah but that's rot this from you yes yeah but that's rot this from you yes yeah but that's rot Coffee Talk by the way welcome everyone Coffee Talk by the way welcome everyone Coffee Talk by the way welcome everyone remember don't take us seriously we're remember don't take us seriously we're remember don't take us seriously we're absolutely having absolutely having absolutely having fun take us serious seriously at your fun take us serious seriously at your fun take us serious seriously at your own risk but yes wow implosion implosion own risk but yes wow implosion implosion own risk but yes wow implosion implosion inspired by Eddie Van Halen's inspired by Eddie Van Halen's inspired by Eddie Van Halen's Eruption I love it I love it well you Eruption I love it I love it well you Eruption I love it I love it well you know we might have to explain to our know we might have to explain to our know we might have to explain to our listener what is an implosion because in listener what is an implosion because in listener what is an implosion because in the world of flat screen nobody knows the world of flat screen nobody knows the world of flat screen nobody knows what is an implosion what is an implosion what is an implosion anymore when the TVs were those big box anymore when the TVs were those big box anymore when the TVs were those big box with tubes I remember I was thought when with tubes I remember I was thought when with tubes I remember I was thought when I was a little you have to be careful I was a little you have to be careful I was a little you have to be careful because if you break it it will implode or if you're an experimental implode or if you're an experimental submarine to go visit the submarine to go visit the submarine to go visit the Titanic it might Titanic it might Titanic it might implode well you're right actually they implode well you're right actually they implode well you're right actually they were reminded because of that I didn't were reminded because of that I didn't were reminded because of that I didn't think about that good good thinking Rob think about that good good thinking Rob think about that good good thinking Rob so thank thank you so much to Blue Ocean so thank thank you so much to Blue Ocean so thank thank you so much to Blue Ocean to BR the subject of implosion back that to BR the subject of implosion back that to BR the subject of implosion back that was actually forgotten because of in the was actually forgotten because of in the was actually forgotten because of in the world of flat screens yeah yeah right world of flat screens yeah yeah right world of flat screens yeah yeah right well they all became flat screens yeah well they all became flat screens yeah well they all became flat screens yeah it's it's it's unfortunate as controller wow yeah wow unfortunate as controller wow yeah wow unfortunate as controller wow yeah wow so so the big news is pagers exploding

so so the big news is pagers exploding so so the big news is pagers exploding simultaneously this is like right out of simultaneously this is like right out of simultaneously this is like right out of a movie or a novel or a James Bond or a movie or a novel or a James Bond or a movie or a novel or a James Bond or you know holy cow well you know I was you know holy cow well you know I was you know holy cow well you know I was thinking about that and you know as thinking about that and you know as thinking about that and you know as awful as it is uh if people don't awful as it is uh if people don't awful as it is uh if people don't understand the importance of the supply understand the importance of the supply understand the importance of the supply chain nether will yeah chain nether will yeah chain nether will yeah I agree this is a wakeup call for the I agree this is a wakeup call for the I agree this is a wakeup call for the supply chain I mean I'm reading about supply chain I mean I'm reading about supply chain I mean I'm reading about this yesterday afternoon and then I this yesterday afternoon and then I this yesterday afternoon and then I started doing a post like on Facebook started doing a post like on Facebook started doing a post like on Facebook about it and then I go wait a second how about it and then I go wait a second how about it and then I go wait a second how do I know that my phone hasn't been do I know that my phone hasn't been do I know that my phone hasn't been intercepted on its way from Southeast intercepted on its way from Southeast intercepted on its way from Southeast Asia to Seattle for instance to an Apple Asia to Seattle for instance to an Apple Asia to Seattle for instance to an Apple store and has explosives in it and store and has explosives in it and store and has explosives in it and someone could send a message and my someone could send a message and my someone could send a message and my phone blows up I know that sounds silly phone blows up I know that sounds silly phone blows up I know that sounds silly yeah not but it's not as silly as you yeah not but it's not as silly as you yeah not but it's not as silly as you think because we just saw that this is think because we just saw that this is think because we just saw that this is possible it's a supply chain attack possible it's a supply chain attack possible it's a supply chain attack exactly and you know and the interesting exactly and you know and the interesting exactly and you know and the interesting fact as well I I remember I was a year fact as well I I remember I was a year fact as well I I remember I was a year or two ago when the European Union or two ago when the European Union or two ago when the European Union started to talk about you know this new started to talk about you know this new started to talk about you know this new regulation that will actually prevent regulation that will actually prevent regulation that will actually prevent companies like apple to serializing companies like apple to serializing companies like apple to serializing components in their I phone and components in their I phone and components in their I phone and everybody say oh it's great right to everybody say oh it's great right to everybody say oh it's great right to repair right to change whatever you want repair right to change whatever you want repair right to change whatever you want I saying guys here is the problem if I saying guys here is the problem if I saying guys here is the problem if somebody repairs and put a part that you somebody repairs and put a part that you somebody repairs and put a part that you don't know I want seriz part in my phone don't know I want seriz part in my phone don't know I want seriz part in my phone because I want to trust the origin for because I want to trust the origin for because I want to trust the origin for the supplying chain and everybody was

the supplying chain and everybody was the supplying chain and everybody was saying I was an idiot so um we see not saying I was an idiot so um we see not saying I was an idiot so um we see not an idiot anymore well when the when the an idiot anymore well when the when the an idiot anymore well when the when the risk gets to that level right um gosh I risk gets to that level right um gosh I risk gets to that level right um gosh I mean people act this is this is such a mean people act this is this is such a mean people act this is this is such a big deal this is unprecedented I don't big deal this is unprecedented I don't big deal this is unprecedented I don't think and a whole lot of bad people think and a whole lot of bad people think and a whole lot of bad people who've never even thought of this as an who've never even thought of this as an who've never even thought of this as an attack vector what wow I could do that attack vector what wow I could do that attack vector what wow I could do that um yeah but In fairness the decision to um yeah but In fairness the decision to um yeah but In fairness the decision to use those pager I use those pager I use those pager I mean I me again and I'm not taking any mean I me again and I'm not taking any mean I me again and I'm not taking any sides here but obviously if you it's sides here but obviously if you it's sides here but obviously if you it's pretty old technology the traffic is pretty old technology the traffic is pretty old technology the traffic is unencrypted and everything so this is an unencrypted and everything so this is an unencrypted and everything so this is an ideal Target for that so I know I do ideal Target for that so I know I do ideal Target for that so I know I do understand why they try to do that understand why they try to do that understand why they try to do that because they don't want to use you know because they don't want to use you know because they don't want to use you know regular channels that can be hacked but regular channels that can be hacked but regular channels that can be hacked but then if you don't base your critical then if you don't base your critical then if you don't base your critical infrastructure on something that is infrastructure on something that is infrastructure on something that is fundamentally secure because those fundamentally secure because those fundamentally secure because those things are not secure at all you have a things are not secure at all you have a things are not secure at all you have a problem it's not even that I mean if you problem it's not even that I mean if you problem it's not even that I mean if you know where somebody is um you also know know where somebody is um you also know know where somebody is um you also know where to direct your where to direct your where to direct your f16s right and I think that really was f16s right and I think that really was f16s right and I think that really was the thing um what inspired the the thing um what inspired the the thing um what inspired the transition and um you know that's one of transition and um you know that's one of transition and um you know that's one of the things about mobile mobile wireless the things about mobile mobile wireless the things about mobile mobile wireless is you can easily find out where people is you can easily find out where people is you can easily find out where people are and it's these guys here they're I read and it's these guys here they're I read that they are actually

that they are actually that they are actually encrypted encrypted encrypted pagers well I don't I haven't seen I've pagers well I don't I haven't seen I've pagers well I don't I haven't seen I've looked at the protocol briefly didn't looked at the protocol briefly didn't looked at the protocol briefly didn't seems to be necessarily encrypted but seems to be necessarily encrypted but seems to be necessarily encrypted but maybe you're right I don't know but maybe you're right I don't know but maybe you're right I don't know but anyway if you have access to supply anyway if you have access to supply anyway if you have access to supply chain putting a back door is a chain putting a back door is a chain putting a back door is a no-brainer yeah things either so but no-brainer yeah things either so but no-brainer yeah things either so but it's pretty basic protocol from what it's pretty basic protocol from what it's pretty basic protocol from what I've seen but I haven't researched in I've seen but I haven't researched in I've seen but I haven't researched in detail so I was trying to find one on detail so I was trying to find one on detail so I was trying to find one on eBay but apparently not available and eBay but apparently not available and eBay but apparently not available and the website of the company is not the website of the company is not the website of the company is not responding so I I just think this is a responding so I I just think this is a responding so I I just think this is a big wakeup call for everybody involved big wakeup call for everybody involved big wakeup call for everybody involved in logistics and supply chain and all of in logistics and supply chain and all of in logistics and supply chain and all of a sudden any casual La Fair feeling a sudden any casual La Fair feeling a sudden any casual La Fair feeling about the movement of goods and services about the movement of goods and services about the movement of goods and services around the globe all of a sudden you around the globe all of a sudden you around the globe all of a sudden you know they woke up in shock this morning know they woke up in shock this morning know they woke up in shock this morning like oh gosh I need to be on this I need like oh gosh I need to be on this I need like oh gosh I need to be on this I need more iot I need more knowledge of every more iot I need more knowledge of every more iot I need more knowledge of every step along the way step along the way step along the way of what's going on here you know or it of what's going on here you know or it of what's going on here you know or it goes back to digital sovereignty or all goes back to digital sovereignty or all goes back to digital sovereignty or all the stuff about where where do things the stuff about where where do things the stuff about where where do things get built and that where's bill when we get built and that where's bill when we get built and that where's bill when we need need need him well he the the um what do you call him well he the the um what do you call him well he the the um what do you call es bomb right but we we've talked about es bomb right but we we've talked about es bomb right but we we've talked about you know CIS bomb you know tracing you know CIS bomb you know tracing you know CIS bomb you know tracing things all the way down to the silicon things all the way down to the silicon things all the way down to the silicon and and and yeah and so yeah pioneering concept from yeah and so yeah pioneering concept from yeah and so yeah pioneering concept from I that's also a good point it's not just I that's also a good point it's not just I that's also a good point it's not just the finished whole good going from

the finished whole good going from the finished whole good going from source to your hands it's you know source to your hands it's you know source to your hands it's you know someone else is making the screens for someone else is making the screens for someone else is making the screens for Apple you there's so many components Apple you there's so many components Apple you there's so many components that come from other sub other vendors that come from other sub other vendors that come from other sub other vendors in there and those could be tampered in there and those could be tampered in there and those could be tampered with along the way when they make their with along the way when they make their with along the way when they make their way to foxcon for instance before you way to foxcon for instance before you way to foxcon for instance before you get to final assembly you know let alone get to final assembly you know let alone get to final assembly you know let alone the whole thing in transit across the the whole thing in transit across the the whole thing in transit across the Pacific Ocean you know yeah yeah hey Pacific Ocean you know yeah yeah hey Pacific Ocean you know yeah yeah hey David what's up haven't seen you in a David what's up haven't seen you in a David what's up haven't seen you in a while nice watch it sounds it sounds while nice watch it sounds it sounds while nice watch it sounds it sounds like you guys are talking about pagers like you guys are talking about pagers like you guys are talking about pagers and supply chain interceptions we are and supply chain interceptions we are and supply chain interceptions we are yeah what else would you be talking yeah what else would you be talking yeah what else would you be talking about today you know no but you know I about today you know no but you know I about today you know no but you know I think we've it's it's funny how things think we've it's it's funny how things think we've it's it's funny how things happen and then there's precedent for happen and then there's precedent for happen and then there's precedent for things that we've talked about here things that we've talked about here things that we've talked about here because I think in one of the early because I think in one of the early because I think in one of the early episodes we but it was in the context of episodes we but it was in the context of episodes we but it was in the context of laptops um you know how do you get in laptops um you know how do you get in laptops um you know how do you get in the youd know men in the middle attack the youd know men in the middle attack the youd know men in the middle attack but in on on a physical device yeah and but in on on a physical device yeah and but in on on a physical device yeah and if you don't have serious eyeballs on if you don't have serious eyeballs on if you don't have serious eyeballs on the entirety of the supply chain things the entirety of the supply chain things the entirety of the supply chain things like these not as explosive pun intended like these not as explosive pun intended like these not as explosive pun intended but they have happened but they have happened but they have happened before yeah no.0 yeah so more eyeballs before yeah no.0 yeah so more eyeballs before yeah no.0 yeah so more eyeballs you know I think of uh what's our friend you know I think of uh what's our friend you know I think of uh what's our friend Scott Luton he's doing his supply chain Scott Luton he's doing his supply chain Scott Luton he's doing his supply chain now and everything I just I don't know I now and everything I just I don't know I now and everything I just I don't know I think just you know I think of the FedEx think just you know I think of the FedEx think just you know I think of the FedEx truck coming by or the Amazon truck truck coming by or the Amazon truck truck coming by or the Amazon truck driving up you know you know UPS all

driving up you know you know UPS all driving up you know you know UPS all these people involved in logistics and these people involved in logistics and these people involved in logistics and that's like the last Mish stuff you know that's like the last Mish stuff you know that's like the last Mish stuff you know um I got to believe there's meetings all um I got to believe there's meetings all um I got to believe there's meetings all over the world right now in corporate over the world right now in corporate over the world right now in corporate headquarters involved with shipping headquarters involved with shipping headquarters involved with shipping goods and Manufacturing goods and stuff goods and Manufacturing goods and stuff goods and Manufacturing goods and stuff like that where they're like wow I never like that where they're like wow I never like that where they're like wow I never thought of this thought of this thought of this and it's um now this is a corner use and it's um now this is a corner use and it's um now this is a corner use case um there's there's not going to be case um there's there's not going to be case um there's there's not going to be there I I think you're right Rob there there I I think you're right Rob there there I I think you're right Rob there are people that were not worried about are people that were not worried about are people that were not worried about this three days ago that are worried this three days ago that are worried this three days ago that are worried about it now so it will be interesting about it now so it will be interesting about it now so it will be interesting to see how they try to apply the to see how they try to apply the to see how they try to apply the visibility aspect for the goods in visibility aspect for the goods in visibility aspect for the goods in question that could something like this question that could something like this question that could something like this could happen could happen could happen because you know what's you know what's because you know what's you know what's because you know what's you know what's already there the technology for the already there the technology for the already there the technology for the visibility it's it's there it's it's visibility it's it's there it's it's visibility it's it's there it's it's been made so is this going to drive an been made so is this going to drive an been made so is this going to drive an implementation of it and then at which implementation of it and then at which implementation of it and then at which level uh because we can all start level uh because we can all start level uh because we can all start tracking things from the sand that went tracking things from the sand that went tracking things from the sand that went into the Silicon all the way up but you into the Silicon all the way up but you into the Silicon all the way up but you know at some point you're like it's us know at some point you're like it's us know at some point you're like it's us doing these things where no one else is doing these things where no one else is doing these things where no one else is looking it's like I'm in the Warehouse looking it's like I'm in the Warehouse looking it's like I'm in the Warehouse it's 3 in the morning lights are off let it's 3 in the morning lights are off let it's 3 in the morning lights are off let me let me be the the inside bat actor me let me be the the inside bat actor me let me be the the inside bat actor that's going to you know pH with these that's going to you know pH with these that's going to you know pH with these things yeah you're right there could be things yeah you're right there could be things yeah you're right there could be bad actors at every stage of that supply

bad actors at every stage of that supply bad actors at every stage of that supply chain including the one that's closest chain including the one that's closest chain including the one that's closest to your house could be that final to your house could be that final to your house could be that final distribution center for you know FedEx distribution center for you know FedEx distribution center for you know FedEx UPS Amazon you put in your name and UPS Amazon you put in your name and UPS Amazon you put in your name and someone who's putting the packages into someone who's putting the packages into someone who's putting the packages into the truck could slip something in or you the truck could slip something in or you the truck could slip something in or you know you're right it could happen know you're right it could happen know you're right it could happen anywhere this is why this is why uh anywhere this is why this is why uh anywhere this is why this is why uh cousin Andy wants everyone to return to cousin Andy wants everyone to return to cousin Andy wants everyone to return to the office good segue yeah seg I just saw office good segue yeah seg I just saw that what was that what's that about that what was that what's that about that what was that what's that about that make total that make total sense so that make total that make total sense so that make total that make total sense so we can see people exploiting that just we can see people exploiting that just we can see people exploiting that just to bring them back in the office to bring them back in the office to bring them back in the office so I think um you know uh personally I so I think um you know uh personally I so I think um you know uh personally I just wish they call it for for what it just wish they call it for for what it just wish they call it for for what it is this is to for attrition because when is this is to for attrition because when is this is to for attrition because when I looked at it I'm like you know like I looked at it I'm like you know like I looked at it I'm like you know like I'm pretty sure that in the last 20 I'm pretty sure that in the last 20 I'm pretty sure that in the last 20 months like I think Amazon stock it's up months like I think Amazon stock it's up months like I think Amazon stock it's up 20 points or something which is not bad 20 points or something which is not bad 20 points or something which is not bad so if the stock is up 20 points have so if the stock is up 20 points have so if the stock is up 20 points have your workers been productive and if they your workers been productive and if they your workers been productive and if they have been productive were they being have been productive were they being have been productive were they being productive from home so what is it like productive from home so what is it like productive from home so what is it like you want 40 points so come back to the you want 40 points so come back to the you want 40 points so come back to the office cuz you'll be more I I don't know office cuz you'll be more I I don't know office cuz you'll be more I I don't know man it's cly there's certainly some irony it's cly there's certainly some irony there of all you know I get it ever there of all you know I get it ever there of all you know I get it ever since you know we've had this for over a since you know we've had this for over a since you know we've had this for over a year two years now with CEO saying get year two years now with CEO saying get year two years now with CEO saying get back to the office and people are like

back to the office and people are like back to the office and people are like no I'm not coming back you know Tim Cook no I'm not coming back you know Tim Cook no I'm not coming back you know Tim Cook come back and work at our giant flying come back and work at our giant flying come back and work at our giant flying saucer and people are like I'm not going saucer and people are like I'm not going saucer and people are like I'm not going to go back and you know um because and I to go back and you know um because and I to go back and you know um because and I get the saradipity the hallway meetings get the saradipity the hallway meetings get the saradipity the hallway meetings the magic happens there I totally get it the magic happens there I totally get it the magic happens there I totally get it I believe that too the irony with Amazon I believe that too the irony with Amazon I believe that too the irony with Amazon though uh I saw a friend of mine Scott though uh I saw a friend of mine Scott though uh I saw a friend of mine Scott Hanselman from Microsoft made a comment Hanselman from Microsoft made a comment Hanselman from Microsoft made a comment about that about well then is he also about that about well then is he also about that about well then is he also asking for people to go back to the asking for people to go back to the asking for people to go back to the shopping malls and stores to buy the shopping malls and stores to buy the shopping malls and stores to buy the stuff in person as well as part of stuff in person as well as part of stuff in person as well as part of getting people back to Amazon in person getting people back to Amazon in person getting people back to Amazon in person and it took me a second because I'm not and it took me a second because I'm not and it took me a second because I'm not very bright to go oh I get it that's very bright to go oh I get it that's very bright to go oh I get it that's that actually make total sense let's that actually make total sense let's that actually make total sense let's launch a big campaign stop going to launch a big campaign stop going to launch a big campaign stop going to Amazon go to Walmart yeah I mean you Amazon go to Walmart yeah I mean you Amazon go to Walmart yeah I mean you know it's ironic Amazon is succeeding by know it's ironic Amazon is succeeding by know it's ironic Amazon is succeeding by you being at home on your computer you being at home on your computer you being at home on your computer buying stuff instead of going to the buying stuff instead of going to the buying stuff instead of going to the store well you know stuff gets dropped store well you know stuff gets dropped store well you know stuff gets dropped off and they I mean you know and also off and they I mean you know and also off and they I mean you know and also over the over the years Amazon's over the over the years Amazon's over the over the years Amazon's realized um brick and mortar has its realized um brick and mortar has its realized um brick and mortar has its advantages and so they've been trying to advantages and so they've been trying to advantages and so they've been trying to come to Market with novel models of uh come to Market with novel models of uh come to Market with novel models of uh brick and mortar retail that's not a brick and mortar retail that's not a brick and mortar retail that's not a mystery so you know um doing all this uh one you know I think Leonard needs a new one you know I think Leonard needs a new connection yeah you know this is what connection yeah you know this is what connection yeah you know this is what happens when you speak ill of Andy jasse happens when you speak ill of Andy jasse happens when you speak ill of Andy jasse on the public on the public on the public inter exactly he got intercepted

inter exactly he got intercepted inter exactly he got intercepted intercepted Amazon monitoring system this is the third time that system this is the third time that Leonard froze and yet he sees us froing Leonard froze and yet he sees us froing Leonard froze and yet he sees us froing his mouth is moving right now but we his mouth is moving right now but we his mouth is moving right now but we can't even hear him no thinks we're can't even hear him no thinks we're can't even hear him no thinks we're Frozen every time he freezes but we're Frozen every time he freezes but we're Frozen every time he freezes but we're all still talking and you know that if all still talking and you know that if all still talking and you know that if that microphone was purchased on Amazon that microphone was purchased on Amazon that microphone was purchased on Amazon there could be something in there yeah there could be something in there yeah there could be something in there yeah could be could be now he's getting a could be could be now he's getting a could be could be now he's getting a little pixelated and he's like how could little pixelated and he's like how could little pixelated and he's like how could this be happening to me I'm paying like this be happening to me I'm paying like this be happening to me I'm paying like a million dollars a month for this high a million dollars a month for this high a million dollars a month for this high speeed fiber optic connection I've got speeed fiber optic connection I've got speeed fiber optic connection I've got let's be a niche Computing problem thing let's be a niche Computing problem thing let's be a niche Computing problem thing so there you go there you go look at so there you go there you go look at so there you go there you go look at that face look at that right there that face look at that right there that face look at that right there that's that's that's the look of Despair that's that's that's the look of Despair that's that's that's the look of Despair when your internet connection doesn't when your internet connection doesn't when your internet connection doesn't work he needs to put more AI on these oh work he needs to put more AI on these oh work he needs to put more AI on these oh my God okay you guys asked for it you know God okay you guys asked for it you know what leard I think you should get a a US what leard I think you should get a a US what leard I think you should get a a US robotics dialup modem we are back we're robotics dialup modem we are back we're robotics dialup modem we are back we're back I couldn't come back right away back I couldn't come back right away back I couldn't come back right away because I had the dialogue box of saving because I had the dialogue box of saving because I had the dialogue box of saving the recording of our first block before the recording of our first block before the recording of our first block before it died so I thought I'd wait cuz I it died so I thought I'd wait cuz I it died so I thought I'd wait cuz I didn't know what was going to come after didn't know what was going to come after didn't know what was going to come after or if or if or if yeah Leonard's still having issues over yeah Leonard's still having issues over yeah Leonard's still having issues over there and it looks like Bill's going to there and it looks like Bill's going to there and it looks like Bill's going to join yeah yeah two dilot modems maybe join yeah yeah two dilot modems maybe join yeah yeah two dilot modems maybe and right as you came back uh you know and right as you came back uh you know and right as you came back uh you know Dimitri hypothesized that maybe Dimitri hypothesized that maybe Dimitri hypothesized that maybe Leonard's fiber connection was being

Leonard's fiber connection was being Leonard's fiber connection was being chewed on by squirrels which is possible chewed on by squirrels which is possible chewed on by squirrels which is possible yeah so of course we started talking yeah so of course we started talking yeah so of course we started talking about cable shielding which could be for about cable shielding which could be for about cable shielding which could be for uh animal protection as well as you know uh animal protection as well as you know uh animal protection as well as you know you know other sorts of interference and you know other sorts of interference and you know other sorts of interference and that someone out there you know had to that someone out there you know had to that someone out there you know had to come up with the idea of like how do we come up with the idea of like how do we come up with the idea of like how do we protect cables from being chewed because protect cables from being chewed because protect cables from being chewed because it's really expensive and these animals it's really expensive and these animals it's really expensive and these animals these Critters they don't carry these Critters they don't carry these Critters they don't carry liability or any kind of insurance so liability or any kind of insurance so liability or any kind of insurance so have to figure that out Sr attack yeah have to figure that out Sr attack yeah have to figure that out Sr attack yeah yeah wow what's up Bill what's up yeah wow what's up Bill what's up yeah wow what's up Bill what's up gentlemen hey hey good to see you man so gentlemen hey hey good to see you man so gentlemen hey hey good to see you man so I saved the first section because we had I saved the first section because we had I saved the first section because we had some good discussion actually about the some good discussion actually about the some good discussion actually about the blowing up pagers from yesterday uh and blowing up pagers from yesterday uh and blowing up pagers from yesterday uh and all that went there that but I'm sure all that went there that but I'm sure all that went there that but I'm sure we'll get more good color commentary we'll get more good color commentary we'll get more good color commentary from bill now the resident security from bill now the resident security from bill now the resident security expert you know so now we're all worried expert you know so now we're all worried expert you know so now we're all worried is my phone going to blow up because is my phone going to blow up because is my phone going to blow up because someone got to it in the supply chain someone got to it in the supply chain someone got to it in the supply chain before it got to me I don't know it's before it got to me I don't know it's before it got to me I don't know it's the manufacturing of latent the manufacturing of latent the manufacturing of latent defects o defects o defects o that's that's some big that's that's some big that's that's some big words I just learned that wow wow there you go that's that wow wow there you go that's it rodent resistant sleeving that's a it rodent resistant sleeving that's a it rodent resistant sleeving that's a good it exists

good it exists good it exists so there's so many vulnerabilities all so there's so many vulnerabilities all so there's so many vulnerabilities all over the place aren't there oh every day over the place aren't there oh every day over the place aren't there oh every day yeah every single day I mean you can yeah every single day I mean you can yeah every single day I mean you can find it I mean you all you have to do is find it I mean you all you have to do is find it I mean you all you have to do is have a cve monitor right and you'll have a cve monitor right and you'll have a cve monitor right and you'll you'll you'll catch them yeah yeah all you'll you'll catch them yeah yeah all you'll you'll catch them yeah yeah all over the place it's non it's non-stop over the place it's non it's non-stop over the place it's non it's non-stop it's every day uh what's good today is it's every day uh what's good today is it's every day uh what's good today is no longer good tomorrow uh it it this no longer good tomorrow uh it it this no longer good tomorrow uh it it this whole thing about you know oh we're whole thing about you know oh we're whole thing about you know oh we're protected because we've got firewalls protected because we've got firewalls protected because we've got firewalls because because we've got crowd strike because because we've got crowd strike because because we've got crowd strike or Arctic wolf or any other third party or Arctic wolf or any other third party or Arctic wolf or any other third party you know frontend system that's going to you know frontend system that's going to you know frontend system that's going to protect your it protect your it protect your it environment but the attacks are not environment but the attacks are not environment but the attacks are not they're not as people think oh it's it's they're not as people think oh it's it's they're not as people think oh it's it's always fishing it's always these are always fishing it's always these are always fishing it's always these are just uh threat just uh threat just uh threat vectors that that you have I mean you vectors that that you have I mean you vectors that that you have I mean you have Bad actors all over the place and have Bad actors all over the place and have Bad actors all over the place and you could just have a um a threat that's you could just have a um a threat that's you could just have a um a threat that's been sitting there for years yeah and been sitting there for years yeah and been sitting there for years yeah and won't become I mean dormant doesn't won't become I mean dormant doesn't won't become I mean dormant doesn't become active until you know certain become active until you know certain become active until you know certain actions are taken I think you're this in actions are taken I think you're this in actions are taken I think you're this in uh Leonard's 18-year-old Avatar here as uh Leonard's 18-year-old Avatar here as uh Leonard's 18-year-old Avatar here as a threat that has been sitting idle in a threat that has been sitting idle in a threat that has been sitting idle in the men's house for years and now today the men's house for years and now today the men's house for years and now today has chosen to reveal itself look at this has chosen to reveal itself look at this has chosen to reveal itself look at this good-look ghost yeah you know that's good-look ghost yeah you know that's good-look ghost yeah you know that's that's actually an interesting Concept that's actually an interesting Concept that's actually an interesting Concept in the context of digital twin maybe in the context of digital twin maybe in the context of digital twin maybe your digital twin doesn't needs to be in

your digital twin doesn't needs to be in your digital twin doesn't needs to be in the same time period as you are you can the same time period as you are you can the same time period as you are you can use your digital twin from the past you use your digital twin from the past you use your digital twin from the past you realize what we're seeing right here realize what we're seeing right here realize what we're seeing right here we're seeing the future when we're still we're seeing the future when we're still we're seeing the future when we're still alive and Leonard has passed on and yet alive and Leonard has passed on and yet alive and Leonard has passed on and yet his Avatar is still there yeah and we his Avatar is still there yeah and we his Avatar is still there yeah and we have enough content from his lifetime of have enough content from his lifetime of have enough content from his lifetime of speaking and writing that has all been speaking and writing that has all been speaking and writing that has all been put together by you know these llms that put together by you know these llms that put together by you know these llms that we could have a conversation with him we could have a conversation with him we could have a conversation with him and it'll seem like he's alive he'll and it'll seem like he's alive he'll and it'll seem like he's alive he'll answer like you might expect well my answer like you might expect well my answer like you might expect well my first question to Avatar lener would be first question to Avatar lener would be first question to Avatar lener would be why is your expression look like you why is your expression look like you why is your expression look like you left the gas on and you left the house left the gas on and you left the house left the gas on and you left the house like he looks like he looks like he looks worried I don't know that's a good worried I don't know that's a good worried I don't know that's a good question and look at my hair it's all question and look at my hair it's all question and look at my hair it's all weird looking weird looking weird looking right look like right look like right look like mushroom I mean you look old young old mushroom I mean you look old young old mushroom I mean you look old young old young there you go what the hell is that young there you go what the hell is that young there you go what the hell is that supposed to mean I mean I'm looking at the picture mean I mean I'm looking at the picture over here on my left he kind of someone over here on my left he kind of someone over here on my left he kind of someone that went to kind of you uh and then and that went to kind of you uh and then and that went to kind of you uh and then and then here on the right you you look like then here on the right you you look like then here on the right you you look like you're sitting next to your son you look like you're in heaven right son you look like you're in heaven right now and we're talking to you through now and we're talking to you through now and we're talking to you through some kind of seance or some weird FL some kind of seance or some weird FL some kind of seance or some weird FL head yeah actually you you want to know head yeah actually you you want to know head yeah actually you you want to know what I'm actually doing right now I'm what I'm actually doing right now I'm what I'm actually doing right now I'm roaming around the house looking for my roaming around the house looking for my roaming around the house looking for my coffee yeah yeah I can see that I want

coffee yeah yeah I can see that I want coffee yeah yeah I can see that I want to see what but it probably can't to see what but it probably can't to see what but it probably can't accurately show us you drinking coffee accurately show us you drinking coffee accurately show us you drinking coffee no here let me try you you can see my no here let me try you you can see my no here let me try you you can see my hand going up right seal a ghost it's a hand going up right seal a ghost it's a hand going up right seal a ghost it's a bit of a ghost yeah so there you go I bit of a ghost yeah so there you go I bit of a ghost yeah so there you go I think we need to make it very clear to think we need to make it very clear to think we need to make it very clear to our viewers that aot coffee talk is not our viewers that aot coffee talk is not our viewers that aot coffee talk is not starting a cult right we we not starting starting a cult right we we not starting starting a cult right we we not starting a cult no but I a cult no but I a cult no but I think it would be cool yes it would be think it would be cool yes it would be think it would be cool yes it would be cool one day if all of us were just like cool one day if all of us were just like cool one day if all of us were just like Leonard and had our avatars floating Leonard and had our avatars floating Leonard and had our avatars floating around because we all have our our Apple around because we all have our our Apple around because we all have our our Apple Vision Pro on you know maybe Leonard Vision Pro on you know maybe Leonard Vision Pro on you know maybe Leonard could purchase those devices for each of could purchase those devices for each of could purchase those devices for each of us um and mail them to us in a secure us um and mail them to us in a secure us um and mail them to us in a secure supply chain armor I was I was about to supply chain armor I was I was about to supply chain armor I was I was about to mention that yeah yeah what you don't mention that yeah yeah what you don't mention that yeah yeah what you don't want is when the Vision Pro explodes on want is when the Vision Pro explodes on want is when the Vision Pro explodes on your face that's no your face that's no your face that's no buo yeah no lat defects no lat defects buo yeah no lat defects no lat defects buo yeah no lat defects no lat defects please and it's so it's like we have two please and it's so it's like we have two please and it's so it's like we have two Leonards here we have the floating Leonards here we have the floating Leonards here we have the floating Leonard The Vision Pro and then you have Leonard The Vision Pro and then you have Leonard The Vision Pro and then you have his face from his other his face from his other his face from his other connection on there and zoom and uh but connection on there and zoom and uh but connection on there and zoom and uh but gosh you know this this this show gosh gosh you know this this this show gosh gosh you know this this this show gosh this is as futuristic as it gets exactly this is as futuristic as it gets exactly this is as futuristic as it gets exactly pretty much yeah yeah maybe you should pretty much yeah yeah maybe you should pretty much yeah yeah maybe you should be Vision Pro 247 Leonard for everything have you thought of that everything have you thought of that Leonard have you thought about when Leonard have you thought about when Leonard have you thought about when you're going to do a inquiry with a

you're going to do a inquiry with a you're going to do a inquiry with a customer or whenever you're talking to customer or whenever you're talking to customer or whenever you're talking to people like just start every time people like just start every time people like just start every time showing up to all your meting ings with showing up to all your meting ings with showing up to all your meting ings with your Vision Pro just freak out I should your Vision Pro just freak out I should your Vision Pro just freak out I should have done that yesterday on a call that have done that yesterday on a call that have done that yesterday on a call that I had with the executive team where I I had with the executive team where I I had with the executive team where I ended up having the connectivity issue ended up having the connectivity issue ended up having the connectivity issue but oddly look I I'm not having issues but oddly look I I'm not having issues but oddly look I I'm not having issues with the Vision Pro right yeah right not with the Vision Pro right yeah right not with the Vision Pro right yeah right not at all you're just merely at all you're just merely at all you're just merely [Music] [Music] [Music] floating yeah but see that's my style floating yeah but see that's my style floating yeah but see that's my style man that's what that's how I man that's what that's how I man that's what that's how I do if you do that you can trip the price do if you do that you can trip the price do if you do that you can trip the price you can triple the price it's oh well you can triple the price it's oh well you can triple the price it's oh well you know um okay so I'll let you in on you know um okay so I'll let you in on you know um okay so I'll let you in on something so I was this morning I something so I was this morning I something so I was this morning I recorded with [ __ ] uh of um uh things recorded with [ __ ] uh of um uh things recorded with [ __ ] uh of um uh things industries and we did a little uh industries and we did a little uh industries and we did a little uh podcast and check it out it's a trip man podcast and check it out it's a trip man podcast and check it out it's a trip man it's a trip yeah um you know a lot of it's a trip yeah um you know a lot of it's a trip yeah um you know a lot of folks aren't talking about Vision Pro folks aren't talking about Vision Pro folks aren't talking about Vision Pro anymore because of all the geni hype um anymore because of all the geni hype um anymore because of all the geni hype um but the people who know know there's but the people who know know there's but the people who know know there's some really really I mean the guys at some really really I mean the guys at some really really I mean the guys at Apple really did a a great job with this Apple really did a a great job with this Apple really did a a great job with this device and the operating system device and the operating system device and the operating system everything else it's just people don't everything else it's just people don't everything else it's just people don't know yet right unless you have a Vision know yet right unless you have a Vision know yet right unless you have a Vision Pro in a community of folks who you Pro in a community of folks who you Pro in a community of folks who you engage with and work with with this engage with and work with with this engage with and work with with this device you're just not going to know so device you're just not going to know so device you're just not going to know so anyway we're not going to know no you're anyway we're not going to know no you're anyway we're not going to know no you're not gonna know you're not gonna my my not gonna know you're not gonna my my not gonna know you're not gonna my my PlayStation visor or PlayStation visor or PlayStation visor or [Laughter] [Laughter] [Laughter] what uh yeah so yeah it's great and by

what uh yeah so yeah it's great and by what uh yeah so yeah it's great and by the way I I look like crap right now but the way I I look like crap right now but the way I I look like crap right now but considering that we're all not getting considering that we're all not getting considering that we're all not getting younger and might have progressively younger and might have progressively younger and might have progressively better faces for radio it might be good better faces for radio it might be good better faces for radio it might be good for us all to create that perfect avatar for us all to create that perfect avatar for us all to create that perfect avatar for 25 years old kind of thing and lock for 25 years old kind of thing and lock for 25 years old kind of thing and lock that in for the rest of each and that in for the rest of each and that in for the rest of each and so a little generative AI on it you know so a little generative AI on it you know so a little generative AI on it you know what I'm saying yeah I need to bring what I'm saying yeah I need to bring what I'm saying yeah I need to bring back my hair I want people to remember back my hair I want people to remember back my hair I want people to remember me when I had hair and I looked like a me when I had hair and I looked like a me when I had hair and I looked like a different guy and you could you could do different guy and you could you could do different guy and you could you could do that so yeah I have a question so we had that so yeah I have a question so we had that so yeah I have a question so we had the update to the iPhone starting Monday the update to the iPhone starting Monday the update to the iPhone starting Monday morning you know people updated is there morning you know people updated is there morning you know people updated is there an update to Vision OS yeah um yeah an update to Vision OS yeah um yeah an update to Vision OS yeah um yeah Vision OS 2 came out on Monday I I uh Vision OS 2 came out on Monday I I uh Vision OS 2 came out on Monday I I uh upgraded the night before yeah and it's upgraded the night before yeah and it's upgraded the night before yeah and it's pretty cool they did a couple of things pretty cool they did a couple of things pretty cool they did a couple of things that just make the Vision Pro that much that just make the Vision Pro that much that just make the Vision Pro that much more um usable more um usable more um usable and they did um um they did some and they did um um they did some and they did um um they did some adjustments to uh how adjustments to uh how adjustments to uh how you uh how you use the keyboard that you uh how you use the keyboard that you uh how you use the keyboard that interaction integration is has improved interaction integration is has improved interaction integration is has improved a lot before every anytime that you a lot before every anytime that you a lot before every anytime that you tried to put in text you get the key the tried to put in text you get the key the tried to put in text you get the key the virtual keyboard popping up in your face virtual keyboard popping up in your face virtual keyboard popping up in your face and um it was just super annoying right and um it was just super annoying right and um it was just super annoying right now if it senses that you're using a

now if it senses that you're using a now if it senses that you're using a keyboard it'll do that that virtual keyboard it'll do that that virtual keyboard it'll do that that virtual keyboard pop up once but then it'll keyboard pop up once but then it'll keyboard pop up once but then it'll sense that you have a physical keyboard sense that you have a physical keyboard sense that you have a physical keyboard and then it'll suppress that popup going and then it'll suppress that popup going and then it'll suppress that popup going forward and that's it sounds trivial forward and that's it sounds trivial forward and that's it sounds trivial it's actually huge and also when you're it's actually huge and also when you're it's actually huge and also when you're in the immersive environments you can in the immersive environments you can in the immersive environments you can see your keyboard okay and your hands see your keyboard okay and your hands see your keyboard okay and your hands and so let's say that you're on a and so let's say that you're on a and so let's say that you're on a airplane and you want to get some work airplane and you want to get some work airplane and you want to get some work done but you don't want to be reminded done but you don't want to be reminded done but you don't want to be reminded that you're sitting in uh economy class that you're sitting in uh economy class that you're sitting in uh economy class ouch right on a long haul flight you can ouch right on a long haul flight you can ouch right on a long haul flight you can uh you know you can see your hands and uh you know you can see your hands and uh you know you can see your hands and you can escape you know and um and um you can escape you know and um and um you can escape you know and um and um yeah Rob I don't know man Rob and I were yeah Rob I don't know man Rob and I were yeah Rob I don't know man Rob and I were pretty tall and when we're sitting back pretty tall and when we're sitting back pretty tall and when we're sitting back there on row 33 SE seats DNN our knees there on row 33 SE seats DNN our knees there on row 33 SE seats DNN our knees are against the seat in the front man are against the seat in the front man are against the seat in the front man yeah yeah well wait a minute I mean what yeah yeah well wait a minute I mean what yeah yeah well wait a minute I mean what in the hell are you doing with a Vision in the hell are you doing with a Vision in the hell are you doing with a Vision Pro sitting Pro sitting Pro sitting economy oh oh it happens oh it happens economy oh oh it happens oh it happens economy oh oh it happens oh it happens some people are wait a second some people are wait a second some people are wait a second I I'm sitting in economy because I I I I'm sitting in economy because I I I I'm sitting in economy because I I purchase a Vision Pro bill that's why purchase a Vision Pro bill that's why purchase a Vision Pro bill that's why okay I look I look like I'm flying Delta okay I look I look like I'm flying Delta okay I look I look like I'm flying Delta but I'm on Spirit on basic economy okay but I'm on Spirit on basic economy okay but I'm on Spirit on basic economy okay that's we go that would be a great that that's we go that would be a great that that's we go that would be a great that would be a great that would be a great I

would be a great that would be a great I would be a great that would be a great I economy because I bought division Pro economy because I bought division Pro economy because I bought division Pro and and and you yeah you know just when you thought you yeah you know just when you thought you yeah you know just when you thought you like the the new BlackBerry with you like the the new BlackBerry with you like the the new BlackBerry with everybody up in business class no Moss everybody up in business class no Moss everybody up in business class no Moss wow you know what was really cool is wow you know what was really cool is wow you know what was really cool is that when Bill disappeared momentarily that when Bill disappeared momentarily that when Bill disappeared momentarily Leonard went from my left speaker to my Leonard went from my left speaker to my Leonard went from my left speaker to my right speaker with that whole spatial right speaker with that whole spatial right speaker with that whole spatial audio thing going on and so it was like audio thing going on and so it was like audio thing going on and so it was like it's insane I I don't think people it's insane I I don't think people it's insane I I don't think people appreciate um the appreciate um the appreciate um the just how well they put this thing just how well they put this thing just how well they put this thing together they really don't it's so together they really don't it's so together they really don't it's so subtle do you know what I'm saying yeah subtle do you know what I'm saying yeah subtle do you know what I'm saying yeah uh but they got everything uh but they got everything uh but they got everything right it's really incredible and you right it's really incredible and you right it's really incredible and you know Rob you've tried it right you w I'm know Rob you've tried it right you w I'm know Rob you've tried it right you w I'm sure some of you guys but I mean live sure some of you guys but I mean live sure some of you guys but I mean live with it and you then really start to with it and you then really start to with it and you then really start to sense and and start to appreciate um how sense and and start to appreciate um how sense and and start to appreciate um how much detail they went into in um making much detail they went into in um making much detail they went into in um making this um you know whatever spatial this um you know whatever spatial this um you know whatever spatial Computing experience really work right Computing experience really work right Computing experience really work right uh I it's just you can't yeah the specs uh I it's just you can't yeah the specs uh I it's just you can't yeah the specs don't tell the story by any stretch of don't tell the story by any stretch of don't tell the story by any stretch of the the the the the the imagination right right that's like imagination right right that's like imagination right right that's like Nintendo would say something like that Nintendo would say something like that Nintendo would say something like that the specs of our device don't tell the the specs of our device don't tell the the specs of our device don't tell the story yeah because they used to have story yeah because they used to have story yeah because they used to have comparatively weak specs right they comparatively weak specs right they comparatively weak specs right they always do they use seriously weak spe always do they use seriously weak spe always do they use seriously weak spe they use like you know stuff from three

they use like you know stuff from three they use like you know stuff from three or four years ago to build their devices or four years ago to build their devices or four years ago to build their devices to keep them low cost yeah yeah but to keep them low cost yeah yeah but to keep them low cost yeah yeah but their content was killer content's their content was killer content's their content was killer content's killer though so there you go content killer though so there you go content killer though so there you go content over specs wow okay this I I really over specs wow okay this I I really over specs wow okay this I I really think at some point we should all be think at some point we should all be think at some point we should all be doing this you know so whoever out there doing this you know so whoever out there doing this you know so whoever out there watching listening can hook us all up watching listening can hook us all up watching listening can hook us all up you you you know that I really appreciate know that I really appreciate know that I really appreciate it I'm Progressive it I'm Progressive it I'm Progressive [ __ ] well guys I gotta drop have a good [ __ ] well guys I gotta drop have a good [ __ ] well guys I gotta drop have a good uh rest of the show okay see you guys uh rest of the show okay see you guys uh rest of the show okay see you guys later bye ghosts bye I'm gonna send you later bye ghosts bye I'm gonna send you later bye ghosts bye I'm gonna send you two recordings Leonard and you're gon to two recordings Leonard and you're gon to two recordings Leonard and you're gon to mune them together somehow yes we will mune them together somehow yes we will mune them together somehow yes we will because there was some good stuff in the because there was some good stuff in the because there was some good stuff in the first first first recording what would be the business recording what would be the business recording what would be the business opportunities that are going to come out opportunities that are going to come out opportunities that are going to come out of these uh exploding pagers uh thing uh of these uh exploding pagers uh thing uh of these uh exploding pagers uh thing uh yes you know like I think my first idea yes you know like I think my first idea yes you know like I think my first idea would be I would be uh like a secondary would be I would be uh like a secondary would be I would be uh like a secondary so close to the last mile I will have a so close to the last mile I will have a so close to the last mile I will have a distribution center and me and my distribution center and me and my distribution center and me and my minions you know those uh those swabs minions you know those uh those swabs minions you know those uh those swabs that TSA uses at the airport to see if that TSA uses at the airport to see if that TSA uses at the airport to see if you you know when you get so I'm going you you know when you get so I'm going you you know when you get so I'm going to grab these devices and you know just to grab these devices and you know just to grab these devices and you know just swab them and put in the machine and now swab them and put in the machine and now swab them and put in the machine and now assuming that my machine isn't already assuming that my machine isn't already assuming that my machine isn't already compromised it will I would then tell I compromised it will I would then tell I compromised it will I would then tell I will tell Dimitri hey I've swapped all will tell Dimitri hey I've swapped all will tell Dimitri hey I've swapped all your devices and there's no traces of

your devices and there's no traces of your devices and there's no traces of explosive here you go sir do uh do the explosive here you go sir do uh do the explosive here you go sir do uh do the best you can with them I love that I best you can with them I love that I best you can with them I love that I love that maybe we should have a new love that maybe we should have a new love that maybe we should have a new show just like have you been compromised show just like have you been compromised show just like have you been compromised you know or you know or you know or compromised have you we could make a compromised have you we could make a compromised have you we could make a movie about it even it would be like movie about it even it would be like movie about it even it would be like idiocracy but you know something idiocracy but you know something idiocracy but you know something different different different oh you know you could go through every oh you know you could go through every oh you know you could go through every scenario where something could be scenario where something could be scenario where something could be compromised and show the compromised and show the compromised and show the outcome that well you know I mean outcome that well you know I mean outcome that well you know I mean there's something to that though I mean there's something to that though I mean there's something to that though I mean if if we were just to drop the if if we were just to drop the if if we were just to drop the information about how in everyday information about how in everyday information about how in everyday use um things that people have grown use um things that people have grown use um things that people have grown accustomed to are accustomed to are accustomed to are compromised yeah I mean literally for compromised yeah I mean literally for compromised yeah I mean literally for just for those that are you know people just for those that are you know people just for those that are you know people that operate networks and systems um and that operate networks and systems um and that operate networks and systems um and you're using anible or anything like you're using anible or anything like you're using anible or anything like that there's literally what how many that there's literally what how many that there's literally what how many cve that are operating under cve that are operating under cve that are operating under awx it's it's it's absolutely ridiculous awx it's it's it's absolutely ridiculous awx it's it's it's absolutely ridiculous you need to be engaged with the you need to be engaged with the you need to be engaged with the communities over there that that that communities over there that that that communities over there that that that run this stuff and just since July You' run this stuff and just since July You' run this stuff and just since July You' got uh got uh got uh 2024 2024 2024 41990 denial of service 41990 denial of service 41990 denial of service vulnerability vulnerability vulnerability 42005 SQL in 42005 SQL in 42005 SQL in vulnerability 41991 denial of service

vulnerability 41991 denial of service vulnerability 41991 denial of service vulnerability still having sequel vulnerability still having sequel vulnerability still having sequel injection attacks after all these years injection attacks after all these years injection attacks after all these years absolutely people haven't figured that absolutely people haven't figured that absolutely people haven't figured that out we taught you how to write the out we taught you how to write the out we taught you how to write the correct SQL code to hit so that you correct SQL code to hit so that you correct SQL code to hit so that you don't have that there they're we're don't have that there they're we're don't have that there they're we're surrounded by freaking surrounded by freaking surrounded by freaking idiots hey I mean but the thing about it idiots hey I mean but the thing about it idiots hey I mean but the thing about it is that what's old is new you you you is that what's old is new you you you is that what's old is new you you you think you saw for it one time they're think you saw for it one time they're think you saw for it one time they're like okay well just give them a just like okay well just give them a just like okay well just give them a just give them a little while and we'll come give them a little while and we'll come give them a little while and we'll come back with a new one back with a new one back with a new one yeah wow you know the thing also is the yeah wow you know the thing also is the yeah wow you know the thing also is the the is the fact that the the tools the is the fact that the the tools the is the fact that the the tools available to the attackers now do not available to the attackers now do not available to the attackers now do not requir a lot of skills I yeah if you requir a lot of skills I yeah if you requir a lot of skills I yeah if you have shown and metas spoil any 15 years have shown and metas spoil any 15 years have shown and metas spoil any 15 years old can go do a denial service attack to old can go do a denial service attack to old can go do a denial service attack to something that is not protected with one something that is not protected with one something that is not protected with one of those vulnerabilities yeah so also of those vulnerabilities yeah so also of those vulnerabilities yeah so also the thing it's scaled now you can just the thing it's scaled now you can just the thing it's scaled now you can just very quickly get the tools and go attack very quickly get the tools and go attack very quickly get the tools and go attack somebody yeah and you know what have if somebody yeah and you know what have if somebody yeah and you know what have if you don't have the discipline to build you don't have the discipline to build you don't have the discipline to build your system up toate you know updated your system up toate you know updated your system up toate you know updated and patches to the latest and patches to the latest and patches to the latest vulnerabilities you're going to get vulnerabilities you're going to get vulnerabilities you're going to get hacked by a kid somewhere at least for hacked by a kid somewhere at least for hacked by a kid somewhere at least for the B vulnerabilities enemy but you have the B vulnerabilities enemy but you have the B vulnerabilities enemy but you have to also be you have to also be vigilant to also be you have to also be vigilant to also be you have to also be vigilant about how your updates are applied right about how your updates are applied right about how your updates are applied right because oh yeah setting it to auto because oh yeah setting it to auto because oh yeah setting it to auto update is like update is like update is like a we've seen that recently right and a we've seen that recently right and a we've seen that recently right and very recently and um so and so you know very recently and um so and so you know very recently and um so and so you know but why why then why is generally but why why then why is generally but why why then why is generally speaking basic cyber hygiene so uh

speaking basic cyber hygiene so uh speaking basic cyber hygiene so uh ignored because it costs money it's as ignored because it costs money it's as ignored because it costs money it's as simple as that I mean we don't simple as that I mean we don't simple as that I mean we don't architecture for resiliency if you look architecture for resiliency if you look architecture for resiliency if you look at how we architecture the Apollo at how we architecture the Apollo at how we architecture the Apollo guidance computer the AC guidance guidance computer the AC guidance guidance computer the AC guidance computer where we send people to the computer where we send people to the computer where we send people to the moon the objective was not to make money moon the objective was not to make money moon the objective was not to make money the objective was to get to the moon and the objective was to get to the moon and the objective was to get to the moon and on rediculous in front of the Russians on rediculous in front of the Russians on rediculous in front of the Russians so we wanted to people to come back life so we wanted to people to come back life so we wanted to people to come back life so we design the system to be extremely so we design the system to be extremely so we design the system to be extremely resilient we don't do that today we resilient we don't do that today we resilient we don't do that today we Design Systems to be more efficient at Design Systems to be more efficient at Design Systems to be more efficient at selling stuff right is a cost so we selling stuff right is a cost so we selling stuff right is a cost so we can't get these tech people to do the can't get these tech people to do the can't get these tech people to do the right thing they're lazy they're right thing they're lazy they're right thing they're lazy they're whatever you know and it kind of reminds whatever you know and it kind of reminds whatever you know and it kind of reminds me I saw some news this morning the New me I saw some news this morning the New me I saw some news this morning the New York Times newspaper they I guess their York Times newspaper they I guess their York Times newspaper they I guess their Tech Union so maybe the tech people that Tech Union so maybe the tech people that Tech Union so maybe the tech people that work there have a union and let me tell work there have a union and let me tell work there have a union and let me tell you what their demands are and then you you what their demands are and then you you what their demands are and then you tell me if they care about cves or tell me if they care about cves or tell me if they care about cves or anything like that anything like that anything like that here's what they want pet bereavement here's what they want pet bereavement here's what they want pet bereavement leave 4day work leave 4day work leave 4day work week ban on scented products in the week ban on scented products in the week ban on scented products in the break break break Rooms Unlimited break time and they want Rooms Unlimited break time and they want Rooms Unlimited break time and they want news trigger news trigger news trigger warnings this was I just saw this on the warnings this was I just saw this on the warnings this was I just saw this on the news and So based on those of the tech news and So based on those of the tech news and So based on those of the tech people at the New York Times do you people at the New York Times do you people at the New York Times do you think any of those people are really think any of those people are really think any of those people are really looking at cyber security things are looking at cyber security things are looking at cyber security things are worried I mean based on based on those worried I mean based on based on those worried I mean based on based on those demands I I I have to ask I would have demands I I I have to ask I would have demands I I I have to ask I would have to ask them to spell cyber security yes to ask them to spell cyber security yes to ask them to spell cyber security yes yes can you spell

yes can you spell yes can you spell it uh start there because if you can't it uh start there because if you can't it uh start there because if you can't spell it we can't sell it spell it we can't sell it spell it we can't sell it so God you are the marketing genius you so God you are the marketing genius you so God you are the marketing genius you can't spell it we can't sell it that is can't spell it we can't sell it that is can't spell it we can't sell it that is badass dude you're on fire yeah it's badass dude you're on fire yeah it's badass dude you're on fire yeah it's like you always just like drop these like you always just like drop these like you always just like drop these things it's all casual but for some things it's all casual but for some things it's all casual but for some other company they would have spent other company they would have spent other company they would have spent millions of dollars on focus groups to millions of dollars on focus groups to millions of dollars on focus groups to try to come up with a cool quote like try to come up with a cool quote like try to come up with a cool quote like that that's a badass oh my that that's a badass oh my that that's a badass oh my God also that t-shirt Bill oh love God also that t-shirt Bill oh love God also that t-shirt Bill oh love love wow look at that that's a cool love wow look at that that's a cool love wow look at that that's a cool t-shirt that is awesome dude that is t-shirt that is awesome dude that is t-shirt that is awesome dude that is awesome F around and find out in a in a awesome F around and find out in a in a awesome F around and find out in a in a very retro gaming analog little lead very retro gaming analog little lead very retro gaming analog little lead bull bull bull thing yeah I love it thing yeah I love it thing yeah I love it but you know what so we're sitting here but you know what so we're sitting here but you know what so we're sitting here we always talk about cyber security and we always talk about cyber security and we always talk about cyber security and networks and everything and obviously networks and everything and obviously networks and everything and obviously what we saw here with the the exploding what we saw here with the the exploding what we saw here with the the exploding pagers is an actual physical attack um pagers is an actual physical attack um pagers is an actual physical attack um there's so much trust I think in the there's so much trust I think in the there's so much trust I think in the system and the supply chain and the system and the supply chain and the system and the supply chain and the manufacturers who make whatever like for manufacturers who make whatever like for manufacturers who make whatever like for instance the shirt that bill has instance the shirt that bill has instance the shirt that bill has on how do you know they couldn't like on how do you know they couldn't like on how do you know they couldn't like put some kind of chemical in the shirt put some kind of chemical in the shirt put some kind of chemical in the shirt so that when he wears it all of a sudden so that when he wears it all of a sudden so that when he wears it all of a sudden he gets a rash or worse you know we he gets a rash or worse you know we he gets a rash or worse you know we don't know we we just just assume we don't know we we just just assume we don't know we we just just assume we trust you know and and I mean so trust you know and and I mean so trust you know and and I mean so whenever that's very true right I mean whenever that's very true right I mean whenever that's very true right I mean it's just it's it but it's the same it's just it's it but it's the same it's just it's it but it's the same thing it's across the board right it's

thing it's across the board right it's thing it's across the board right it's it's you know nobody gets fired for it's you know nobody gets fired for it's you know nobody gets fired for buying Cisco nobody gets fired for buying Cisco nobody gets fired for buying Cisco nobody gets fired for buying Microsoft nobody gets fired buying Microsoft nobody gets fired buying Microsoft nobody gets fired nobody gets in trouble for these things nobody gets in trouble for these things nobody gets in trouble for these things and then when things happen it's uh well and then when things happen it's uh well and then when things happen it's uh well everything everything's going to be fine everything everything's going to be fine everything everything's going to be fine we're going to fix it everybody go back we're going to fix it everybody go back we're going to fix it everybody go back to your life as normal yes right right to your life as normal yes right right to your life as normal yes right right right you can't trust right you can't trust right you can't trust anything you know I think Public Enemy anything you know I think Public Enemy anything you know I think Public Enemy said that the cabin rights with no said that the cabin rights with no said that the cabin rights with no electricity and no internet and electricity and no internet and electricity and no internet and completely off grid doesn't sound too completely off grid doesn't sound too completely off grid doesn't sound too bad it's like hey try to make my ouse explode well you can still be targeted explode well you can still be targeted by a drone if they know where you are so by a drone if they know where you are so by a drone if they know where you are so it's uh I mean trusting people waiting it's uh I mean trusting people waiting it's uh I mean trusting people waiting to be told what to do by some Authority to be told what to do by some Authority to be told what to do by some Authority they think is legit or correct and they they think is legit or correct and they they think is legit or correct and they should believe them but the problem is should believe them but the problem is should believe them but the problem is you need a framework for people to trust you need a framework for people to trust you need a framework for people to trust and and and the reality is I think that and and and the reality is I think that and and and the reality is I think that you know I don't want to get too you know I don't want to get too you know I don't want to get too philosophical here but the evolution of philosophical here but the evolution of philosophical here but the evolution of digital Technologies in our society has digital Technologies in our society has digital Technologies in our society has made that it there's no more common made that it there's no more common made that it there's no more common framework you know there's too much framework you know there's too much framework you know there's too much technology we can anybody can do too technology we can anybody can do too technology we can anybody can do too many things say too many things and many things say too many things and many things say too many things and there's no reference framework anymore there's no reference framework anymore there's no reference framework anymore your religion used to be one it's not your religion used to be one it's not your religion used to be one it's not that much anymore there isn't any that much anymore there isn't any that much anymore there isn't any reference framework there's no idea I reference framework there's no idea I reference framework there's no idea I mean I again don't want to get mean I again don't want to get mean I again don't want to get politicals but look at the presidential politicals but look at the presidential politicals but look at the presidential debate and even if you don't take any debate and even if you don't take any debate and even if you don't take any sides is there any inspiring idea like sides is there any inspiring idea like sides is there any inspiring idea like going to the Moon back and forth come

going to the Moon back and forth come going to the Moon back and forth come on not so much I mean how's that how's on not so much I mean how's that how's on not so much I mean how's that how's that how's that do anything for for the that how's that do anything for for the that how's that do anything for for the people the I mean I'm concerned about my people the I mean I'm concerned about my people the I mean I'm concerned about my taxes yeah yeah I'm I'm concerned about taxes yeah yeah I'm I'm concerned about taxes yeah yeah I'm I'm concerned about not being in the not being in the not being in the 1% right there's nothing worse than not 1% right there's nothing worse than not 1% right there's nothing worse than not being being being and that's my point there is no and that's my point there is no and that's my point there is no inspiration to try to modify this model inspiration to try to modify this model inspiration to try to modify this model as you said it's oh everything's going as you said it's oh everything's going as you said it's oh everything's going to be fine just a little crisis will go to be fine just a little crisis will go to be fine just a little crisis will go over and it will stay how it is so um over and it will stay how it is so um over and it will stay how it is so um wow there you go I mean but I'm not wow there you go I mean but I'm not wow there you go I mean but I'm not worried about my neighbors eating my worried about my neighbors eating my worried about my neighbors eating my dogs or anything like that so there's dogs or anything like that so there's dogs or anything like that so there's that you should you should I'm I'm that you should you should I'm I'm that you should you should I'm I'm positive I'm I'm I'm positive but I'm positive I'm I'm I'm positive but I'm positive I'm I'm I'm positive but I'm just not what if they what if what if just not what if they what if what if just not what if they what if what if they saw one of the dogs chewing on your they saw one of the dogs chewing on your they saw one of the dogs chewing on your fiber optic cable going to your house fiber optic cable going to your house fiber optic cable going to your house you then might say God I wish You' eat you then might say God I wish You' eat you then might say God I wish You' eat that that that dog that that more credible Rob so don't dog that that more credible Rob so don't dog that that more credible Rob so don't give politicians ideas that might be give politicians ideas that might be give politicians ideas that might be more more more credible their dogs are eating fiber credible their dogs are eating fiber credible their dogs are eating fiber optic bill just wants the pad bement optic bill just wants the pad bement optic bill just wants the pad bement leave from the New York Times can I just leave from the New York Times can I just leave from the New York Times can I just get that you're saying I mean I'm I'm get that you're saying I mean I'm I'm get that you're saying I mean I'm I'm sensitive yes you are yes you are bill sensitive yes you are yes you are bill sensitive yes you are yes you are bill is Mr Sensitive you is Mr Sensitive you is Mr Sensitive you know I could tell say the word taxes and know I could tell say the word taxes and know I could tell say the word taxes and he's like wait what yeah don't worry Bill's not one of what yeah don't worry Bill's not one of those people who moved from California those people who moved from California those people who moved from California to Texas or anything no never that no

to Texas or anything no never that no to Texas or anything no never that no never that like I'm out of here I mean never that like I'm out of here I mean never that like I'm out of here I mean at the end of the day you know it's it's at the end of the day you know it's it's at the end of the day you know it's it's all about it's all about I moved but I all about it's all about I moved but I all about it's all about I moved but I didn't move I have an address in the Bay didn't move I have an address in the Bay didn't move I have an address in the Bay Area and an address in Texas you know it Area and an address in Texas you know it Area and an address in Texas you know it might be good to not have an address in might be good to not have an address in might be good to not have an address in the Bay Area because well I mean the Bay Area because well I mean the Bay Area because well I mean California man they come after you yeah California man they come after you yeah California man they come after you yeah I'm just saying if they do then I'll I'm just saying if they do then I'll I'm just saying if they do then I'll jump over to Texas and if Texas does the jump over to Texas and if Texas does the jump over to Texas and if Texas does the same thing I'll just jump to the Dr yeah same thing I'll just jump to the Dr yeah same thing I'll just jump to the Dr yeah yeah true that's true that's we're all I yeah true that's true that's we're all I yeah true that's true that's we're all I mean that's my escape hatch the Dr is mean that's my escape hatch the Dr is mean that's my escape hatch the Dr is the escape hatch there folks all right the escape hatch there folks all right the escape hatch there folks all right okay yeah that's what Dave is thinking okay yeah that's what Dave is thinking okay yeah that's what Dave is thinking all the time my escape hatch I'm going all the time my escape hatch I'm going all the time my escape hatch I'm going back to the Dr yeah you know coconuts back to the Dr yeah you know coconuts back to the Dr yeah you know coconuts chickens eat fruit live of the land you chickens eat fruit live of the land you chickens eat fruit live of the land you know relax and then just watch out for know relax and then just watch out for know relax and then just watch out for the drones cuz you know they can still the drones cuz you know they can still the drones cuz you know they can still find you yes true that's true oh my gosh find you yes true that's true oh my gosh find you yes true that's true oh my gosh wow we are talking about everything wow we are talking about everything wow we are talking about everything today the country all over the place you today the country all over the place you today the country all over the place you know the whole deal about trust and know the whole deal about trust and know the whole deal about trust and stuff like that I you know I'm so weird stuff like that I you know I'm so weird stuff like that I you know I'm so weird I always keep showing you guys stuff I always keep showing you guys stuff I always keep showing you guys stuff this is a real Downer you know we had this is a real Downer you know we had this is a real Downer you know we had 911 just recently and I don't know if 911 just recently and I don't know if 911 just recently and I don't know if you know about the story there's this you know about the story there's this you know about the story there's this guy Rick rcor uh um guy Rick rcor uh um guy Rick rcor uh um anyway he rescued 2700 employees from anyway he rescued 2700 employees from anyway he rescued 2700 employees from his company because when the EA System his company because when the EA System his company because when the EA System in the World Trade Center told all the in the World Trade Center told all the in the World Trade Center told all the employees to stay put and wait for employees to stay put and wait for employees to stay put and wait for signal to tell them what to do and signal to tell them what to do and signal to tell them what to do and they're all staying put he got on me

they're all staying put he got on me they're all staying put he got on me megaphone he's like don't believe it we megaphone he's like don't believe it we megaphone he's like don't believe it we need to get the [ __ ] out of here you need to get the [ __ ] out of here you need to get the [ __ ] out of here you know and and he was right he was right know and and he was right he was right know and and he was right he was right he saved 2,700 people who were just he saved 2,700 people who were just he saved 2,700 people who were just going to sit at their desk waiting for going to sit at their desk waiting for going to sit at their desk waiting for the all clear remember that's what they the all clear remember that's what they the all clear remember that's what they don't worry it's just a hiccup exactly don't worry it's just a hiccup exactly don't worry it's just a hiccup exactly exactly now right back to our our our exactly now right back to our our our exactly now right back to our our our regularly scheduled program right right regularly scheduled program right right regularly scheduled program right right totally totally yeah sorry about the totally totally yeah sorry about the totally totally yeah sorry about the bummer there guys anyway but you know bummer there guys anyway but you know bummer there guys anyway but you know it's kind of a message the money machine it's kind of a message the money machine it's kind of a message the money machine has to keep in churning so you know it's has to keep in churning so you know it's has to keep in churning so you know it's uh just don't worry about that little uh just don't worry about that little uh just don't worry about that little fire over there get back to where you fire over there get back to where you fire over there get back to where you were doing yeah if you can get back on were doing yeah if you can get back on were doing yeah if you can get back on your computer and do some more trades your computer and do some more trades your computer and do some more trades really quick you know back to and back really quick you know back to and back really quick you know back to and back to the office yes back to the office oh to the office yes back to the office oh to the office yes back to the office oh there's a lot more of that happening there's a lot more of that happening there's a lot more of that happening yeah there is yeah yeah I think another yeah there is yeah yeah I think another yeah there is yeah yeah I think another idea for cussin Andy is he should donate idea for cussin Andy is he should donate idea for cussin Andy is he should donate I don't know like a billion bucks to pet I don't know like a billion bucks to pet I don't know like a billion bucks to pet shelters all over the US not so that shelters all over the US not so that shelters all over the US not so that bills peoples don't eat them cuz you bills peoples don't eat them cuz you bills peoples don't eat them cuz you know he just dropped that joke but for know he just dropped that joke but for know he just dropped that joke but for the people that are in a situation where the people that are in a situation where the people that are in a situation where they have to go back to the office they have to go back to the office they have to go back to the office because that's the only way they're because that's the only way they're because that's the only way they're going to put food on the table but who's going to put food on the table but who's going to put food on the table but who's going to take care of the dogs and the going to take care of the dogs and the going to take care of the dogs and the and the and the pets so with a big and the and the pets so with a big and the and the pets so with a big donation to a large system of donation to a large system of donation to a large system of distributed animal shelters at least distributed animal shelters at least distributed animal shelters at least these these pets could have hope of these these pets could have hope of these these pets could have hope of being loved by you know a second owner being loved by you know a second owner being loved by you know a second owner and um and that and the New York Times

and um and that and the New York Times and um and that and the New York Times pet bement leave we got a deal right so pet bement leave we got a deal right so pet bement leave we got a deal right so I believe I have support from cousin I believe I have support from cousin I believe I have support from cousin Andy and now I I go back to the office Andy and now I I go back to the office Andy and now I I go back to the office and I just forget about pho I have a and I just forget about pho I have a and I just forget about pho I have a little picture and I remember the good little picture and I remember the good little picture and I remember the good times we had over the last couple of times we had over the last couple of times we had over the last couple of years maybe your Amazon ring camera can years maybe your Amazon ring camera can years maybe your Amazon ring camera can be pointed at Pho or something and you be pointed at Pho or something and you be pointed at Pho or something and you could say hi Pho yes well I mean but could say hi Pho yes well I mean but could say hi Pho yes well I mean but then then you're setting yourself up for then then you're setting yourself up for then then you're setting yourself up for an an an attack ex there we go attack ex there we go attack ex there we go again nothing sacred again nothing sacred again nothing sacred bill here is a free upgrade where you're bill here is a free upgrade where you're bill here is a free upgrade where you're going to receive a brand new camera but going to receive a brand new camera but going to receive a brand new camera but the problem is is that they'll they'll the problem is is that they'll they'll the problem is is that they'll they'll have enough image generation of it'll be have enough image generation of it'll be have enough image generation of it'll be just like you know Leonard with his just like you know Leonard with his just like you know Leonard with his Vision Pro pretty soon it'll be a fake Vision Pro pretty soon it'll be a fake Vision Pro pretty soon it'll be a fake you know 3D avatar of Pho and you think you know 3D avatar of Pho and you think you know 3D avatar of Pho and you think it's real but ph's been gone for a long it's real but ph's been gone for a long it's real but ph's been gone for a long time but you're and you know but please time but you're and you know but please time but you're and you know but please stay at your desk and keep working F's stay at your desk and keep working F's stay at your desk and keep working F's fine he look well I mean at that point fine he look well I mean at that point fine he look well I mean at that point you're just giving people the right to you're just giving people the right to you're just giving people the right to have selective Amnesia I'll remember have selective Amnesia I'll remember have selective Amnesia I'll remember what I want to remember and forget what what I want to remember and forget what what I want to remember and forget what I want to forget I want to forget I want to forget yeah yeah I would like to forget iue yeah yeah I would like to forget iue yeah yeah I would like to forget iue it's already the case it's already the case it's already the case but I love to forget rent and bills but I love to forget rent and bills but I love to forget rent and bills and yeah yeah I want to forget all of and yeah yeah I want to forget all of and yeah yeah I want to forget all of that and and avoid the that and and avoid the that and and avoid the consequences and I want them to consequences and I want them to consequences and I want them to forget Yes actually this is the only

forget Yes actually this is the only forget Yes actually this is the only thing you want you want them to forget thing you want you want them to forget thing you want you want them to forget and then yes just not care yeah you know and then yes just not care yeah you know and then yes just not care yeah you know and I feel bad picking up California you and I feel bad picking up California you and I feel bad picking up California you know Mr Vasquez is also in a really low know Mr Vasquez is also in a really low know Mr Vasquez is also in a really low tax state tax state tax state Oregon don't don't don't get don't get Oregon don't don't don't get don't get Oregon don't don't don't get don't get me started because I will go Bill really me started because I will go Bill really me started because I will go Bill really really quickly here oh really quickly here oh really quickly here oh yeah most people I know who say I'd love yeah most people I know who say I'd love yeah most people I know who say I'd love to live in the Portland area look at the to live in the Portland area look at the to live in the Portland area look at the financial situation and they say I think financial situation and they say I think financial situation and they say I think I'm going to live in Vancouver I'm going to live in Vancouver I'm going to live in Vancouver Washington on the other side of the Washington on the other side of the Washington on the other side of the river where it's a lot cheaper a heck of river where it's a lot cheaper a heck of river where it's a lot cheaper a heck of a lot cheaper a heck of a lot cheaper a lot cheaper a heck of a lot cheaper a lot cheaper a heck of a lot cheaper but I'll buy big appli but I'll buy big appli but I'll buy big appli in Oregon where there's no sales tax yes in Oregon where there's no sales tax yes in Oregon where there's no sales tax yes yes system right you know absolutely yes system right you know absolutely yes system right you know absolutely don't hate the player yeah sure wow wow don't hate the player yeah sure wow wow don't hate the player yeah sure wow wow but you know the I just want to know but you know the I just want to know but you know the I just want to know wait a minute let me ask one thing about wait a minute let me ask one thing about wait a minute let me ask one thing about about Portland where do they get the about Portland where do they get the about Portland where do they get the machetes machetes machetes from uh the I don't know you know from uh the I don't know you know from uh the I don't know you know there's we have you know so we have a there's we have you know so we have a there's we have you know so we have a great manufacturing past here and PR we great manufacturing past here and PR we great manufacturing past here and PR we have a lot of Fab shops here bill you have a lot of Fab shops here bill you have a lot of Fab shops here bill you know maybe that's it I swear every time know maybe that's it I swear every time know maybe that's it I swear every time I'm there I've seen people just walking I'm there I've seen people just walking I'm there I've seen people just walking down the streets swinging machetes you down the streets swinging machetes you down the streets swinging machetes you serious you're calling them machetes I serious you're calling them machetes I serious you're calling them machetes I am calling them scrap sheet metal buddy am calling them scrap sheet metal buddy am calling them scrap sheet metal buddy oh very very in the Dr we have the oh very very in the Dr we have the oh very very in the Dr we have the machetes because you know we we we do we machetes because you know we we we do we machetes because you know we we we do we do work on the fields we have sugar can do work on the fields we have sugar can do work on the fields we have sugar can we have actual utility machetes here we have actual utility machetes here we have actual utility machetes here it's more like scrap metal they're Rusty

it's more like scrap metal they're Rusty it's more like scrap metal they're Rusty either way you want to be updated on either way you want to be updated on either way you want to be updated on your TV shots uh you know just in case your TV shots uh you know just in case your TV shots uh you know just in case uh you get poked yeah you know speaking uh you get poked yeah you know speaking uh you get poked yeah you know speaking I I know I probably brought this up I I know I probably brought this up I I know I probably brought this up maybe a year or more ago um I'm maybe a year or more ago um I'm maybe a year or more ago um I'm wondering if David has made it out to wondering if David has made it out to wondering if David has made it out to the Pinball Museum that's out in the Pinball Museum that's out in the Pinball Museum that's out in Hillsboro yet I I have not but the but Hillsboro yet I I have not but the but Hillsboro yet I I have not but the but Costco had a pinball machine for $6,000 Costco had a pinball machine for $6,000 Costco had a pinball machine for $6,000 the other day and I stood there thinking the other day and I stood there thinking the other day and I stood there thinking do I buy this or what's cheaper $6,000 do I buy this or what's cheaper $6,000 do I buy this or what's cheaper $6,000 or a or a or a divorce and anyway I'm still married and divorce and anyway I'm still married and divorce and anyway I'm still married and I don't I did not buy the pinbo machine I don't I did not buy the pinbo machine I don't I did not buy the pinbo machine but it was a serious consideration uh to but it was a serious consideration uh to but it was a serious consideration uh to do so the next time I come down there do so the next time I come down there do so the next time I come down there which could be soon we got to just meet which could be soon we got to just meet which could be soon we got to just meet out there we got to go out to out there we got to go out to out there we got to go out to Hillsboro it's like right by Intel and Hillsboro it's like right by Intel and Hillsboro it's like right by Intel and it's like the biggest video game arcade it's like the biggest video game arcade it's like the biggest video game arcade Chic complex I've ever seen in my life Chic complex I've ever seen in my life Chic complex I've ever seen in my life like I think it was a rich guy who had like I think it was a rich guy who had like I think it was a rich guy who had this warehouse and he was you know had this warehouse and he was you know had this warehouse and he was you know had all these pinball machines and arcade all these pinball machines and arcade all these pinball machines and arcade and then he turned it into a full-blown and then he turned it into a full-blown and then he turned it into a full-blown arcade it's the coolest thing ever I arcade it's the coolest thing ever I arcade it's the coolest thing ever I took my daughter there last year and we took my daughter there last year and we took my daughter there last year and we love you paid 20 bucks and it's all you love you paid 20 bucks and it's all you love you paid 20 bucks and it's all you can eat you know you play every game can eat you know you play every game can eat you know you play every game every everything it's off the charts and every everything it's off the charts and every everything it's off the charts and so and there's a top golf near there too so and there's a top golf near there too so and there's a top golf near there too we'll do it otherwise I do have I do we'll do it otherwise I do have I do we'll do it otherwise I do have I do have NBA Jam here in the have NBA Jam here in the have NBA Jam here in the basement and you know speaking of basement and you know speaking of basement and you know speaking of arcades I was talking to a friend of arcades I was talking to a friend of arcades I was talking to a friend of mine I'm not going to out him or mine I'm not going to out him or mine I'm not going to out him or anything like that we were having lunch anything like that we were having lunch anything like that we were having lunch talking about his AI startup but then he

talking about his AI startup but then he talking about his AI startup but then he also mentioned oh but also on the side also mentioned oh but also on the side also mentioned oh but also on the side me and apartment I'm we're actually me and apartment I'm we're actually me and apartment I'm we're actually going to launch an arcade in this cute going to launch an arcade in this cute going to launch an arcade in this cute little small town over here not far from little small town over here not far from little small town over here not far from where I live uh and he was talking about where I live uh and he was talking about where I live uh and he was talking about pinball machines and all that kind of pinball machines and all that kind of pinball machines and all that kind of stuff and I was like ah how refreshing stuff and I was like ah how refreshing stuff and I was like ah how refreshing you know I don't know if it'll succeed you know I don't know if it'll succeed you know I don't know if it'll succeed or not but you know in the world of all or not but you know in the world of all or not but you know in the world of all of us always talking about the next Cool of us always talking about the next Cool of us always talking about the next Cool Tech startup it was refreshing to say Tech startup it was refreshing to say Tech startup it was refreshing to say someone's going to build a an arcade and someone's going to build a an arcade and someone's going to build a an arcade and have maybe you know Candy and you know have maybe you know Candy and you know have maybe you know Candy and you know pinball machines and asteroids and Space pinball machines and asteroids and Space pinball machines and asteroids and Space Invaders and stuff for kids after they Invaders and stuff for kids after they Invaders and stuff for kids after they get out of school I don't know and maybe get out of school I don't know and maybe get out of school I don't know and maybe he'll do a subscription model maybe he'll do a subscription model maybe he'll do a subscription model maybe he'll charge families like a monthly he'll charge families like a monthly he'll charge families like a monthly subscription all you can eat I don't subscription all you can eat I don't subscription all you can eat I don't know it was just kind of refreshing it know it was just kind of refreshing it know it was just kind of refreshing it was a little different than the TP was a little different than the TP was a little different than the TP typical how do I make a jillion dollars typical how do I make a jillion dollars typical how do I make a jillion dollars with AI you know but you know I um I with AI you know but you know I um I with AI you know but you know I um I mean let's let's call down the nostagia mean let's let's call down the nostagia mean let's let's call down the nostagia lane the I mean we've had we've had lane the I mean we've had we've had lane the I mean we've had we've had arcade and pinball games for I I don't arcade and pinball games for I I don't arcade and pinball games for I I don't what like since 7s uh or earlier but the what like since 7s uh or earlier but the what like since 7s uh or earlier but the but in a way there's been absolutely no but in a way there's been absolutely no but in a way there's been absolutely no changes to the business model you're changes to the business model you're changes to the business model you're either you either go to the place right either you either go to the place right either you either go to the place right and you pay either by coin or or a fee and you pay either by coin or or a fee and you pay either by coin or or a fee for an hour or whatever uh or you you for an hour or whatever uh or you you for an hour or whatever uh or you you buy the machine at which point well it's buy the machine at which point well it's buy the machine at which point well it's yours and you get you know unlimited use yours and you get you know unlimited use yours and you get you know unlimited use out of it but there's been nothing in out of it but there's been nothing in out of it but there's been nothing in between I mean they you know they're big

between I mean they you know they're big between I mean they you know they're big they're physical they are expensive uh they're physical they are expensive uh they're physical they are expensive uh to make not because the parts are to make not because the parts are to make not because the parts are expensive anymore I mean what what do we expensive anymore I mean what what do we expensive anymore I mean what what do we have we have a single license for the have we have a single license for the have we have a single license for the game check that's probably the you know game check that's probably the you know game check that's probably the you know the biggest chunk of the cost but you the biggest chunk of the cost but you the biggest chunk of the cost but you know the parts the boards the smt the know the parts the boards the smt the know the parts the boards the smt the pcbs the you know that cannot be pcbs the you know that cannot be pcbs the you know that cannot be terribly expensive but you know the only terribly expensive but you know the only terribly expensive but you know the only Innovation I could think of was that a Innovation I could think of was that a Innovation I could think of was that a company called oneup company called oneup company called oneup arcade and they they're building uh arcade and they they're building uh arcade and they they're building uh smaller boxes which is what I have or smaller boxes which is what I have or smaller boxes which is what I have or really popular games and you know at really popular games and you know at really popular games and you know at five to 600 bucks you know you give me five to 600 bucks you know you give me five to 600 bucks you know you give me four games you give me a little bit of four games you give me a little bit of four games you give me a little bit of no yeah like you know I'll buy it but no yeah like you know I'll buy it but no yeah like you know I'll buy it but the big ones are still three four five the big ones are still three four five the big ones are still three four five grand a pinball machine is 6 seven8 and grand a pinball machine is 6 seven8 and grand a pinball machine is 6 seven8 and out of space but there is there is a out of space but there is there is a out of space but there is there is a company or a few companies that will company or a few companies that will company or a few companies that will actually sell actually sell actually sell you the entire system because if we you the entire system because if we you the entire system because if we think about it those games like think about it those games like think about it those games like asteroids and space Invaders and Missile asteroids and space Invaders and Missile asteroids and space Invaders and Missile Command and all of that they will sell Command and all of that they will sell Command and all of that they will sell you a console with a thousand games all you a console with a thousand games all you a console with a thousand games all of them from behind yeah it's about of them from behind yeah it's about of them from behind yeah it's about three grand three to five grand three grand three to five grand three grand three to five grand depending on you know how elaborate you depending on you know how elaborate you depending on you know how elaborate you get you can have four players and stuff get you can have four players and stuff get you can have four players and stuff like that yeah but I mean that was that like that yeah but I mean that was that like that yeah but I mean that was that was our downtime I it was like you know was our downtime I it was like you know was our downtime I it was like you know that's that's we would go do that yeah that's that's we would go do that yeah that's that's we would go do that yeah and and thank God for that man because

and and thank God for that man because and and thank God for that man because that stuff kept me out of much trouble that stuff kept me out of much trouble that stuff kept me out of much trouble oh yeah oh yeah you know I think it'd be oh yeah oh yeah you know I think it'd be oh yeah oh yeah you know I think it'd be great if we did a a live broadcast great if we did a a live broadcast great if we did a a live broadcast sometime where we're all at some arcade sometime where we're all at some arcade sometime where we're all at some arcade playing Missile Command and [ __ ] like playing Missile Command and [ __ ] like playing Missile Command and [ __ ] like that a Defender and all that you know that a Defender and all that you know that a Defender and all that you know those are the days yeah that was the those are the days yeah that was the those are the days yeah that was the best you know but there's that whole best you know but there's that whole best you know but there's that whole notion of experience you know it's like notion of experience you know it's like notion of experience you know it's like I can buy that machine and have it in my I can buy that machine and have it in my I can buy that machine and have it in my house but there's still that deal like I house but there's still that deal like I house but there's still that deal like I want to go somewhere it's kind of like I want to go somewhere it's kind of like I want to go somewhere it's kind of like I talk about wine you know you know you talk about wine you know you know you talk about wine you know you know you buy all these bottles of wine and all buy all these bottles of wine and all buy all these bottles of wine and all this great wine everything you got in this great wine everything you got in this great wine everything you got in your house and yet you still enjoy it your house and yet you still enjoy it your house and yet you still enjoy it more when you go to Wine Country or more when you go to Wine Country or more when you go to Wine Country or you're out in a tasting room it's kind you're out in a tasting room it's kind you're out in a tasting room it's kind of like Howard Schultz when he first of like Howard Schultz when he first of like Howard Schultz when he first envisioned Starbucks you know when he envisioned Starbucks you know when he envisioned Starbucks you know when he was in an Italian Cafe you know it's was in an Italian Cafe you know it's was in an Italian Cafe you know it's like it's the experience Demetri yeah I like it's the experience Demetri yeah I like it's the experience Demetri yeah I need to bals guys see you next week yeah and so uh there is something week yeah and so uh there is something there's some kind of magic about being there's some kind of magic about being there's some kind of magic about being in the place it's social interaction it in the place it's social interaction it in the place it's social interaction it is yeah yeah it's it's 100% social is yeah yeah it's it's 100% social is yeah yeah it's it's 100% social social inter interaction I mean yeah I I social inter interaction I mean yeah I I social inter interaction I mean yeah I I don't know it it there's something about don't know it it there's something about don't know it it there's something about it like I mean I'm not one that loves it like I mean I'm not one that loves it like I mean I'm not one that loves crowds but you know when you're in a crowds but you know when you're in a crowds but you know when you're in a when you're in the environment it's like when you're in the environment it's like when you're in the environment it's like it's cold especially if if you're with it's cold especially if if you're with it's cold especially if if you're with if you're with others that you know and if you're with others that you know and if you're with others that you know and anything like that it's all good but I anything like that it's all good but I anything like that it's all good but I mean I I don't see the social mean I I don't see the social mean I I don't see the social interaction interaction interaction thing much I think it's very different thing much I think it's very different thing much I think it's very different for this gener here I'm going to stick

for this gener here I'm going to stick for this gener here I'm going to stick to social interactions and I'm going to to social interactions and I'm going to to social interactions and I'm going to stick to arcades so back in the day stick to arcades so back in the day stick to arcades so back in the day let's just say that the three most let's just say that the three most let's just say that the three most popular machines always had a line and popular machines always had a line and popular machines always had a line and in a Mortal Kombat Street Fighter Tekken in a Mortal Kombat Street Fighter Tekken in a Mortal Kombat Street Fighter Tekken whatever why was the the law of the land whatever why was the the law of the land whatever why was the the law of the land you lose you're out next guy comes in you lose you're out next guy comes in you lose you're out next guy comes in win or stays so that's that's that was win or stays so that's that's that was win or stays so that's that's that was the social structure of the RT right the social structure of the RT right the social structure of the RT right like straight up and you know you're like straight up and you know you're like straight up and you know you're trash talking you know check theow you trash talking you know check theow you trash talking you know check theow you know now now if uh you know if these know now now if uh you know if these know now now if uh you know if these kids are not used to these social kids are not used to these social kids are not used to these social interactions you know dude they're just interactions you know dude they're just interactions you know dude they're just standing there like waiting for someone standing there like waiting for someone standing there like waiting for someone to leave like I I don't know like it's to leave like I I don't know like it's to leave like I I don't know like it's almost like us we need to take these almost like us we need to take these almost like us we need to take these kids out to the arcade and and almost kids out to the arcade and and almost kids out to the arcade and and almost like walk them through that interaction like walk them through that interaction like walk them through that interaction so that they get the benefit of you know so that they get the benefit of you know so that they get the benefit of you know of The Well of the social interaction of of The Well of the social interaction of of The Well of the social interaction of the downtime of the gaming um and the downtime of the gaming um and the downtime of the gaming um and actually make eye contact with with actually make eye contact with with actually make eye contact with with other humans I think I think we've lost other humans I think I think we've lost other humans I think I think we've lost a chunk of that uh especially for those a chunk of that uh especially for those a chunk of that uh especially for those kids that were certain age during during kids that were certain age during during kids that were certain age during during the lockdown even if lockdown was only a the lockdown even if lockdown was only a the lockdown even if lockdown was only a year for some of them but dude I'm year for some of them but dude I'm year for some of them but dude I'm telling you it's lost like they don't telling you it's lost like they don't telling you it's lost like they don't have that thing that we just grew up have that thing that we just grew up have that thing that we just grew up with because that's how I was I had to with because that's how I was I had to with because that's how I was I had to talk to the kid hey dude it's my turn talk to the kid hey dude it's my turn talk to the kid hey dude it's my turn what do you mean it's not my turn yes it what do you mean it's not my turn yes it what do you mean it's not my turn yes it is my turn okay okay you go play like as is my turn okay okay you go play like as is my turn okay okay you go play like as simple as that sounds it's it got simple as that sounds it's it got simple as that sounds it's it got lost Co well so that's lost and the

lost Co well so that's lost and the lost Co well so that's lost and the competitive nature associated with it is competitive nature associated with it is competitive nature associated with it is lost because I don't know about you guys lost because I don't know about you guys lost because I don't know about you guys but my game of choice was but my game of choice was but my game of choice was asteroids it was asteroids and my whole asteroids it was asteroids and my whole asteroids it was asteroids and my whole intent was to walk into the the arcade intent was to walk into the the arcade intent was to walk into the the arcade with a quarter oh oh one quarter I would with a quarter oh oh one quarter I would with a quarter oh oh one quarter I would get on the machine and it was the get on the machine and it was the get on the machine and it was the objective was to get missiles or or objective was to get missiles or or objective was to get missiles or or ships all the way across the screen ships all the way across the screen ships all the way across the screen then I would turn around and say you got then I would turn around and say you got then I would turn around and say you got a quarter I'll let you play four men you a quarter I'll let you play four men you a quarter I'll let you play four men you got a quarter I'll let you play four men got a quarter I'll let you play four men got a quarter I'll let you play four men but it's it's my game I'm just giving but it's it's my game I'm just giving but it's it's my game I'm just giving you and and I'd walk out of there with you and and I'd walk out of there with you and and I'd walk out of there with 10 bucks that is awesome wow rkade games 10 bucks that is awesome wow rkade games 10 bucks that is awesome wow rkade games hate this hate this hate this guy oh man I I was like I was like hey I guy oh man I I was like I was like hey I guy oh man I I was like I was like hey I I've got all these men here and you know I've got all these men here and you know I've got all these men here and you know i' I'd be on that thing for you know i' I'd be on that thing for you know i' I'd be on that thing for you know three hours at a time you know what three hours at a time you know what three hours at a time you know what though go back get a slurpie here you though go back get a slurpie here you though go back get a slurpie here you take four you take four you take four take four you take four you take four take four you take four you take four give me your money give me your money give me your money give me your money give me your money give me your money this is awesome stuff I can imagine like this is awesome stuff I can imagine like this is awesome stuff I can imagine like you as a kid doing that and you gotta you as a kid doing that and you gotta you as a kid doing that and you gotta lined up and you've got that Mo about lined up and you've got that Mo about lined up and you've got that Mo about you and I can imagine like you know you and I can imagine like you know you and I can imagine like you know Kevin o Mr Wonderful from Shark Tank Kevin o Mr Wonderful from Shark Tank Kevin o Mr Wonderful from Shark Tank showing up and he's like this kid's showing up and he's like this kid's showing up and he's like this kid's going places he's goingon to be a going places he's goingon to be a going places he's goingon to be a multi-billionaire you know on Wall multi-billionaire you know on Wall multi-billionaire you know on Wall Street based on what I'm seeing now Street based on what I'm seeing now Street based on what I'm seeing now because what you were doing then is an because what you were doing then is an because what you were doing then is an indicator of how you would behave and indicator of how you would behave and indicator of how you would behave and have the hustle and the way to you know

have the hustle and the way to you know have the hustle and the way to you know in your future you already had it you in your future you already had it you in your future you already had it you know was thinking I'm going to be in 1% know was thinking I'm going to be in 1% know was thinking I'm going to be in 1% be before we knew what a one% was be before we knew what a one% was be before we knew what a one% was exactly exactly no it was it literally exactly exactly no it was it literally exactly exactly no it was it literally was that it was it was a an was that it was it was a an was that it was it was a an entrepreneurial mindset from day one I entrepreneurial mindset from day one I entrepreneurial mindset from day one I mean my mom takes off goes uh with on a mean my mom takes off goes uh with on a mean my mom takes off goes uh with on a lady's trip out the house is empty I lady's trip out the house is empty I lady's trip out the house is empty I call all my buddies I'm like we're call all my buddies I'm like we're call all my buddies I'm like we're throwing a house throwing a house throwing a house party we I mean and this is no social party we I mean and this is no social party we I mean and this is no social media it's word of mouth and people on media it's word of mouth and people on media it's word of mouth and people on telephones going there's a there's a telephones going there's a there's a telephones going there's a there's a party over here on Sycamore and you know party over here on Sycamore and you know party over here on Sycamore and you know and and all of a sudden there's a and and all of a sudden there's a and and all of a sudden there's a there's droves of people lined up and there's droves of people lined up and there's droves of people lined up and I'm like hold up capacity yeah give me I'm like hold up capacity yeah give me I'm like hold up capacity yeah give me your $10 yeah $10 a person come on in your $10 yeah $10 a person come on in your $10 yeah $10 a person come on in you can party when somebody else leaves you can party when somebody else leaves you can party when somebody else leaves someone else comes in this is awesome I someone else comes in this is awesome I someone else comes in this is awesome I can imagine getting the phone call from can imagine getting the phone call from can imagine getting the phone call from Bill and I answer and it's like what's up yeah I wasn't I wasn't as good as up yeah I wasn't I wasn't as good as bill with the asford example but I would bill with the asford example but I would bill with the asford example but I would um good thing my mom doesn't listen to um good thing my mom doesn't listen to um good thing my mom doesn't listen to this or I hope she doesn't because I this or I hope she doesn't because I this or I hope she doesn't because I would uh volunteer to go to the would uh volunteer to go to the would uh volunteer to go to the laundromat because you needed quarters laundromat because you needed quarters laundromat because you needed quarters and I made a choice of you know what and I made a choice of you know what and I made a choice of you know what clothes are going to be a little bit clothes are going to be a little bit clothes are going to be a little bit damp because this damp because this damp because this yeah that was that was uh my my my emo yeah that was that was uh my my my emo yeah that was that was uh my my my emo and uh yeah yeah you know when you talk

and uh yeah yeah you know when you talk and uh yeah yeah you know when you talk about lunch Matt and arcades it makes me about lunch Matt and arcades it makes me about lunch Matt and arcades it makes me think of do you know my favorite think of do you know my favorite think of do you know my favorite contrarian Financial person uh Cody contrarian Financial person uh Cody contrarian Financial person uh Cody Sanchez in Austin she's on Instagram Sanchez in Austin she's on Instagram Sanchez in Austin she's on Instagram always talking about the the being an always talking about the the being an always talking about the the being an entrepreneur but going after boring entrepreneur but going after boring entrepreneur but going after boring businesses that nobody wants to do and businesses that nobody wants to do and businesses that nobody wants to do and so she talks about buying lrom mats car so she talks about buying lrom mats car so she talks about buying lrom mats car washes stuff like that washes stuff like that washes stuff like that buying proven businesses from Boomers buying proven businesses from Boomers buying proven businesses from Boomers who are retiring who'll do owner who are retiring who'll do owner who are retiring who'll do owner financing and stuff like that super financing and stuff like that super financing and stuff like that super interesting stuff just completely interesting stuff just completely interesting stuff just completely different than everybody doing some kind different than everybody doing some kind different than everybody doing some kind of pie in the sky thing um that's pretty of pie in the sky thing um that's pretty of pie in the sky thing um that's pretty cool lachat but you well you know what's cool lachat but you well you know what's cool lachat but you well you know what's um and again this is the the the old um and again this is the the the old um and again this is the the the old school in me uh is that if you if you school in me uh is that if you if you school in me uh is that if you if you live in a community that has a live in a community that has a live in a community that has a laundromat it looks certain way right laundromat it looks certain way right laundromat it looks certain way right versus the the suburbs that that don't versus the the suburbs that that don't versus the the suburbs that that don't because people have their own you know because people have their own you know because people have their own you know washer and dryers yeah and and a little washer and dryers yeah and and a little washer and dryers yeah and and a little bit of the community dies when these bit of the community dies when these bit of the community dies when these businesses get bought uh by someone who businesses get bought uh by someone who businesses get bought uh by someone who it's not going to be there you know like it's not going to be there you know like it's not going to be there you know like now and again I'm not knocking the now and again I'm not knocking the now and again I'm not knocking the Boomer selling the business so that they Boomer selling the business so that they Boomer selling the business so that they can go retire no good on you like don't can go retire no good on you like don't can go retire no good on you like don't work until you drop dead I'm not work until you drop dead I'm not work until you drop dead I'm not knocking that and I'm also not knocking knocking that and I'm also not knocking knocking that and I'm also not knocking the entrepreneur for looking at an the entrepreneur for looking at an the entrepreneur for looking at an opportunity to make money but you know I opportunity to make money but you know I opportunity to make money but you know I as someone who grew up going to the lrat as someone who grew up going to the lrat as someone who grew up going to the lrat and meeting the people and the owners and meeting the people and the owners and meeting the people and the owners and the repair people and the other and the repair people and the other and the repair people and the other folks you know like I I I miss that and

folks you know like I I I miss that and folks you know like I I I miss that and that just goes away CU When that that just goes away CU When that that just goes away CU When that ownership transfers those relationships ownership transfers those relationships ownership transfers those relationships like they're done and people will keep like they're done and people will keep like they're done and people will keep on going to the same place but you know on going to the same place but you know on going to the same place but you know if the operator is not going to be there if the operator is not going to be there if the operator is not going to be there because they probably don't want to be because they probably don't want to be because they probably don't want to be there anyway it's just like a little bit there anyway it's just like a little bit there anyway it's just like a little bit of that Community just and disappear of that Community just and disappear of that Community just and disappear that makes so much sense therefore that makes so much sense therefore that makes so much sense therefore we should buy a lrat put video games in we should buy a lrat put video games in we should buy a lrat put video games in the laundromat have cool music playing the laundromat have cool music playing the laundromat have cool music playing in the lrat have good coffee or whatever in the lrat have good coffee or whatever in the lrat have good coffee or whatever and make it this cool new and make it this cool new and make it this cool new social place to hang out to come back to social place to hang out to come back to social place to hang out to come back to yes and we and we'll have you know the yes and we and we'll have you know the yes and we and we'll have you know the the one thing that all of us with lrom the one thing that all of us with lrom the one thing that all of us with lrom experience is trying to figure out like experience is trying to figure out like experience is trying to figure out like is my load done we'll send a text is my load done we'll send a text is my load done we'll send a text message because this is iot coffee talk message because this is iot coffee talk message because this is iot coffee talk and we're all connected we'll send you a and we're all connected we'll send you a and we're all connected we'll send you a text message that will not blow up your text message that will not blow up your text message that will not blow up your mobile device to let you know that your mobile device to let you know that your mobile device to let you know that your load is done and you can come pick it up load is done and you can come pick it up load is done and you can come pick it up and you know fluff and fold that and I and you know fluff and fold that and I and you know fluff and fold that and I go home I love it you should take us out go home I love it you should take us out go home I love it you should take us out since we're at that time it almost since we're at that time it almost since we're at that time it almost sounded like you were taking us out I sounded like you were taking us out I sounded like you were taking us out I love it yes that was the hint so folks love it yes that was the hint so folks love it yes that was the hint so folks now we know that uh Bill's California now we know that uh Bill's California now we know that uh Bill's California address is Sycamore that is North address is Sycamore that is North address is Sycamore that is North Sycamore in the West Hollywood Hills of Sycamore in the West Hollywood Hills of Sycamore in the West Hollywood Hills of Los Angeles bill has had money since he Los Angeles bill has had money since he Los Angeles bill has had money since he was a little boy and now we know and how was a little boy and now we know and how was a little boy and now we know and how do you know because you're here at iot do you know because you're here at iot do you know because you're here at iot Coffee Talk your favorite internet show Coffee Talk your favorite internet show Coffee Talk your favorite internet show of Old Times where all the money we make of Old Times where all the money we make of Old Times where all the money we make which I mean we have a team of CPA just

which I mean we have a team of CPA just which I mean we have a team of CPA just counting cash and it all goes to counting cash and it all goes to counting cash and it all goes to elevator kids.org and if you have extra elevator kids.org and if you have extra elevator kids.org and if you have extra money that is where it should go because money that is where it should go because money that is where it should go because we keep uh funling money to uh we keep uh funling money to uh we keep uh funling money to uh underdeveloped and we're trying to uh underdeveloped and we're trying to uh underdeveloped and we're trying to uh close the digital divide by buying these close the digital divide by buying these close the digital divide by buying these folks um things that they can connect folks um things that they can connect folks um things that they can connect with and keep on learning so thank you with and keep on learning so thank you with and keep on learning so thank you for hanging out with us in this uh will for hanging out with us in this uh will for hanging out with us in this uh will be stitched up uh two-part episode and be stitched up uh two-part episode and be stitched up uh two-part episode and uh stay safe pay attention to your uh stay safe pay attention to your uh stay safe pay attention to your supply chain last mile is where it's at supply chain last mile is where it's at supply chain last mile is where it's at and until next week don't blow up folks and until next week don't blow up folks and until next week don't blow up folks and catch us here next week on iot and catch us here next week on iot and catch us here next week on iot Coffee Talk peace out peace out Coffee Talk peace out peace out Coffee Talk peace out peace out [Music]