Michael Malice: Thanksgiving Pirate Special | Lex Fridman Podcast #402

what's your opinion what's your opinion on my bird here Mr parrot it's maau on my bird here Mr parrot it's maau on my bird here Mr parrot it's maau Scarlet maau what it is a Scarlet Macau Scarlet maau what it is a Scarlet Macau Scarlet maau what it is a Scarlet Macau oh you know Birds yeah and that's oh you know Birds yeah and that's oh you know Birds yeah and that's actually not life-sized are you saying actually not life-sized are you saying actually not life-sized are you saying he's not real I'm saying it's not to he's not real I'm saying it's not to he's not real I'm saying it's not to scale okay but he's real are we doing scale okay but he's real are we doing scale okay but he's real are we doing that Monty Python that Monty Python that Monty Python sketch everything is a Monty Python I sketch everything is a Monty Python I sketch everything is a Monty Python I don't think Monty Python's funny and at don't think Monty Python's funny and at don't think Monty Python's funny and at all like not explains so much does it all like not explains so much does it all like not explains so much does it what does it explain what do you think what does it explain what do you think what does it explain what do you think is is is funny you're not answering that question funny you're not answering that question funny you're not answering that question is pretty funny well yeah what what do is pretty funny well yeah what what do is pretty funny well yeah what what do you think is funny having a meta shrimp you think is funny having a meta shrimp you think is funny having a meta shrimp no you think Bigos is funny oh God no you think Bigos is funny oh God no you think Bigos is funny oh God no this is getting worse and no this is getting worse and no this is getting worse and worse the following is a conversation worse the following is a conversation worse the following is a conversation with Michael malice Anarchist and author with Michael malice Anarchist and author with Michael malice Anarchist and author of dear reader the new WR the anarchist of dear reader the new WR the anarchist of dear reader the new WR the anarchist handbook the white pill handbook the white pill handbook the white pill and he is the host of the podcast you're and he is the host of the podcast you're and he is the host of the podcast you're welcome this is a Thanksgiving special welcome this is a Thanksgiving special welcome this is a Thanksgiving special of the pirate and oceangoing variety so of the pirate and oceangoing variety so of the pirate and oceangoing variety so once again let me say thank you for once again let me say thank you for once again let me say thank you for listening today and for being part of listening today and for being part of listening today and for being part of this wild Journey with me this is Alex this wild Journey with me this is Alex this wild Journey with me this is Alex Freedman podcast to support it please Freedman podcast to support it please Freedman podcast to support it please check out our sponsors in the check out our sponsors in the check out our sponsors in the description and now dear friends here's description and now dear friends here's description and now dear friends here's Michael the Box yeah the Myst I'm wondering

the Box yeah the Myst I'm wondering what's in it there's something in that what's in it there's something in that what's in it there's something in that box of exquisite beauty both literally box of exquisite beauty both literally box of exquisite beauty both literally and in what it symbolizes and why it is and in what it symbolizes and why it is and in what it symbolizes and why it is here given the kind of human being you here given the kind of human being you here given the kind of human being you are I'm terrified at what you find are I'm terrified at what you find are I'm terrified at what you find beautiful that's a good point you kind beautiful that's a good point you kind beautiful that's a good point you kind of hit me with the curveball yeah like of hit me with the curveball yeah like of hit me with the curveball yeah like for me the most beautiful like Wildlife for me the most beautiful like Wildlife for me the most beautiful like Wildlife mhm are what I call uh God's mistakes mhm are what I call uh God's mistakes mhm are what I call uh God's mistakes yeah because my friend came up with that yeah because my friend came up with that yeah because my friend came up with that term where she's like you know God made term where she's like you know God made term where she's like you know God made these disgusting animals just threw in these disgusting animals just threw in these disgusting animals just threw in the bottom of the ocean he's like no the bottom of the ocean he's like no the bottom of the ocean he's like no one's ever going to see this yeah you uh one's ever going to see this yeah you uh one's ever going to see this yeah you uh you commented on Twitter about some you commented on Twitter about some you commented on Twitter about some creature like a rainbow type creature creature like a rainbow type creature creature like a rainbow type creature the peacock mantis shrimp yeah it's the peacock mantis shrimp yeah it's the peacock mantis shrimp yeah it's beautiful it's horrific though so it has beautiful it's horrific though so it has beautiful it's horrific though so it has I think eight legs six arms two punching I think eight legs six arms two punching I think eight legs six arms two punching claws or spearing claws depending on the claws or spearing claws depending on the claws or spearing claws depending on the genus uh two eyes two antenna two ear genus uh two eyes two antenna two ear genus uh two eyes two antenna two ear flaps I don't know what they do um and flaps I don't know what they do um and flaps I don't know what they do um and its punch can be as strong as a bullet its punch can be as strong as a bullet its punch can be as strong as a bullet and the other type with the spears and the other type with the spears and the other type with the spears divers call them thumb Splitters because divers call them thumb Splitters because divers call them thumb Splitters because if you stick your finger near it it'll if you stick your finger near it it'll if you stick your finger near it it'll cut your thumb down to the bone so I had cut your thumb down to the bone so I had cut your thumb down to the bone so I had one as a pet all night I would hear one as a pet all night I would hear one as a pet all night I would hear banging on the PVC pipe and I got to banging on the PVC pipe and I got to banging on the PVC pipe and I got to tell you they have the best eyesight of tell you they have the best eyesight of tell you they have the best eyesight of any animal cuz they see in like seven any animal cuz they see in like seven any animal cuz they see in like seven different ways and when you make eye different ways and when you make eye different ways and when you make eye contact with this thing it's it's just contact with this thing it's it's just contact with this thing it's it's just absolutely terrifying but you e them a absolutely terrifying but you e them a absolutely terrifying but you e them a sushi they call them C centipedes but sushi they call them C centipedes but sushi they call them C centipedes but they're colorful and beautiful that they're colorful and beautiful that they're colorful and beautiful that species is yeah what was it like having species is yeah what was it like having species is yeah what was it like having one as a

one as a one as a pet and why did you do it well when you pet and why did you do it well when you pet and why did you do it well when you have an species that's that unique and have an species that's that unique and have an species that's that unique and that much of an outlier you know growing that much of an outlier you know growing that much of an outlier you know growing up reading these books watching these up reading these books watching these up reading these books watching these shows I found this stuff so much more shows I found this stuff so much more shows I found this stuff so much more fascinating than like space and which is fascinating than like space and which is fascinating than like space and which is you know dead um so to be able to have you know dead um so to be able to have you know dead um so to be able to have this specimen in your house and just this specimen in your house and just this specimen in your house and just observe Its Behavior Uh is just just observe Its Behavior Uh is just just observe Its Behavior Uh is just just like an amazing thing why'd you get rid like an amazing thing why'd you get rid like an amazing thing why'd you get rid of it I didn't have I guess the right of it I didn't have I guess the right of it I didn't have I guess the right minerals in the mix because it had a minerals in the mix because it had a minerals in the mix because it had a problem molting ones yeah they couldn't problem molting ones yeah they couldn't problem molting ones yeah they couldn't mol correctly wow you miss it think mol correctly wow you miss it think mol correctly wow you miss it think about it still I do think about it to be about it still I do think about it to be about it still I do think about it to be honest I still have a pair of its uh honest I still have a pair of its uh honest I still have a pair of its uh punching um appendages from when it punching um appendages from when it punching um appendages from when it moled what pet animal in your life do moled what pet animal in your life do moled what pet animal in your life do you miss the you miss the you miss the most that has been in your most that has been in your most that has been in your life that you think about I've never had life that you think about I've never had life that you think about I've never had cats or dogs growing up or anything like cats or dogs growing up or anything like cats or dogs growing up or anything like that which you know I oh that which you know I oh that which you know I oh God my problem is here we go if I like God my problem is here we go if I like God my problem is here we go if I like something I will go down a rabbit hole something I will go down a rabbit hole something I will go down a rabbit hole Yeah so I know if I got one tattoo I Yeah so I know if I got one tattoo I Yeah so I know if I got one tattoo I already know my first five are going to already know my first five are going to already know my first five are going to be okay so I can't do it because then be okay so I can't do it because then be okay so I can't do it because then once I get those five it's going to be a once I get those five it's going to be a once I get those five it's going to be a 100 and I'm already too old to be the 100 and I'm already too old to be the 100 and I'm already too old to be the tattoo guy what would be the first tattoo guy what would be the first tattoo guy what would be the first tattoo um my face tattoo um my face tattoo um my face um would it go on your ass cheeks or um would it go on your ass cheeks or um would it go on your ass cheeks or where would you put them if it was my where would you put them if it was my where would you put them if it was my face if I got your face it would

face if I got your face it would face if I got your face it would definitely be on my arm right here if definitely be on my arm right here if definitely be on my arm right here if you had multiple faces would you put you had multiple faces would you put you had multiple faces would you put like I think delts right shoulders like I think delts right shoulders like I think delts right shoulders different faces and different shoulders different faces and different shoulders different faces and different shoulders symmetry yeah yeah would you get a symmetry yeah yeah would you get a symmetry yeah yeah would you get a dictator if you if you had to get a dictator if you if you had to get a dictator if you if you had to get a dictator who would you get we have the dictator who would you get we have the dictator who would you get we have the Kim jel right H because I wrote the book Kim jel right H because I wrote the book Kim jel right H because I wrote the book on him oh it's like plugging your book I on him oh it's like plugging your book I on him oh it's like plugging your book I don't plugging it's just like I have a don't plugging it's just like I have a don't plugging it's just like I have a personal connection to opener personal connection to opener personal connection to opener conversation people would be asking why conversation people would be asking why conversation people would be asking why him and you'd be like well I wrote a him and you'd be like well I wrote a him and you'd be like well I wrote a book about it i' be like okay okay here book about it i' be like okay okay here book about it i' be like okay okay here here's that would be a bad no that's not here's that would be a bad no that's not here's that would be a bad no that's not what happens okay here's the thing what what happens okay here's the thing what what happens okay here's the thing what happens when you write a book about happens when you write a book about happens when you write a book about North hey nice to meet you what is it North hey nice to meet you what is it North hey nice to meet you what is it you do I'm an author what kind of books you do I'm an author what kind of books you do I'm an author what kind of books do you write well my last book was on do you write well my last book was on do you write well my last book was on North Korea 90% of the time 90 they will North Korea 90% of the time 90 they will North Korea 90% of the time 90 they will then start telling me everything they then start telling me everything they then start telling me everything they know about North Korea and it's like I know about North Korea and it's like I know about North Korea and it's like I don't need this isn't a quiz and it's a don't need this isn't a quiz and it's a don't need this isn't a quiz and it's a very poorly understood country I don't very poorly understood country I don't very poorly understood country I don't expect you to know anything you're not expect you to know anything you're not expect you to know anything you're not on the spot and and half of what you're on the spot and and half of what you're on the spot and and half of what you're saying is not accurate either it's fine saying is not accurate either it's fine saying is not accurate either it's fine how often did they bring up Dennis how often did they bring up Dennis how often did they bring up Dennis Rodman uh 100% 100% of the time oh so do Rodman uh 100% 100% of the time oh so do Rodman uh 100% 100% of the time oh so do you know Dennis Rodman yeah but I don't you know Dennis Rodman yeah but I don't you know Dennis Rodman yeah but I don't understand what I guess people feel the understand what I guess people feel the understand what I guess people feel the need to like all right like now we're need to like all right like now we're need to like all right like now we're talking about this subject I just got to talking about this subject I just got to talking about this subject I just got to you know drop whatever I can talk about you know drop whatever I can talk about you know drop whatever I can talk about it's usually a small amount and there's it's usually a small amount and there's it's usually a small amount and there's this thing in the culture which I hate this thing in the culture which I hate this thing in the culture which I hate that everyone have to have an opinion on that everyone have to have an opinion on that everyone have to have an opinion on everything and it's like it's okay to be everything and it's like it's okay to be everything and it's like it's okay to be like yeah I don't know anything about like yeah I don't know anything about like yeah I don't know anything about that tell me more you know there's lots that tell me more you know there's lots that tell me more you know there's lots of things I don't know anything about of things I don't know anything about of things I don't know anything about what's your opinion what's your opinion what's your opinion on my bird here Mr parrot it's maah

on my bird here Mr parrot it's maah on my bird here Mr parrot it's maah Scarlet maau what it is a Scarlet MAA oh Scarlet maau what it is a Scarlet MAA oh Scarlet maau what it is a Scarlet MAA oh you know Birds yeah and that's actually you know Birds yeah and that's actually you know Birds yeah and that's actually not life-sized are you saying he's not not life-sized are you saying he's not not life-sized are you saying he's not real I'm saying it's not to scale okay real I'm saying it's not to scale okay real I'm saying it's not to scale okay but he's real are we doing that Monty but he's real are we doing that Monty but he's real are we doing that Monty Python Python Python sketch everything is a Monty Python sketch everything is a Monty Python sketch everything is a Monty Python sketch I don't think Monday Python's sketch I don't think Monday Python's sketch I don't think Monday Python's funny and at all like not that explains funny and at all like not that explains funny and at all like not that explains so much does it what does it explain so much does it what does it explain so much does it what does it explain what do you think is what do you think is what do you think is funny you're not answering that question funny you're not answering that question funny you're not answering that question is pretty funny yeah what what do you is pretty funny yeah what what do you is pretty funny yeah what what do you think is funny having a meta shrimp no think is funny having a meta shrimp no think is funny having a meta shrimp no that you think bigoski is funny oh God that you think bigoski is funny oh God that you think bigoski is funny oh God no although this is getting worse and no although this is getting worse and no although this is getting worse and worse to be fair yep I only tried to worse to be fair yep I only tried to worse to be fair yep I only tried to watch big Labowski after it's been part watch big Labowski after it's been part watch big Labowski after it's been part of the culture for many years right to of the culture for many years right to of the culture for many years right to the point where every single line has the point where every single line has the point where every single line has been quoted incessantly by the most been quoted incessantly by the most been quoted incessantly by the most annoying frat Bros ever yeah so I kind annoying frat Bros ever yeah so I kind annoying frat Bros ever yeah so I kind of have been poisoned to be able to of have been poisoned to be able to of have been poisoned to be able to appreciate it right so maybe if I'd seen appreciate it right so maybe if I'd seen appreciate it right so maybe if I'd seen it when it came out before it became a it when it came out before it became a it when it came out before it became a thing I would have enjoyed it I couldn't thing I would have enjoyed it I couldn't thing I would have enjoyed it I couldn't get through it like I couldn't get get through it like I couldn't get get through it like I couldn't get through 20 minutes is that how you feel through 20 minutes is that how you feel through 20 minutes is that how you feel about Schindler's about Schindler's about Schindler's List well it's so much easier for me to List well it's so much easier for me to List well it's so much easier for me to stare at you when you have sunglasses on stare at you when you have sunglasses on stare at you when you have sunglasses on I didn't think you'd be the one making I didn't think you'd be the one making I didn't think you'd be the one making Holocaust jokes today and yet here we Holocaust jokes today and yet here we Holocaust jokes today and yet here we are and cut scene I actually have like are and cut scene I actually have like are and cut scene I actually have like no trouble making eye contact with you no trouble making eye contact with you no trouble making eye contact with you when you're wearing Shades yes cuz when you're wearing Shades yes cuz when you're wearing Shades yes cuz you're a robot two two copies of myself you're a robot two two copies of myself you're a robot two two copies of myself yeah oh you seeing yourself in them mhm

yeah oh you seeing yourself in them mhm yeah oh you seeing yourself in them mhm okay cool yeah I'm having a conversation okay cool yeah I'm having a conversation okay cool yeah I'm having a conversation with myself it's not your fault with myself it's not your fault with myself it's not your fault Lex they made you like this you were Lex they made you like this you were Lex they made you like this you were just a good little robot in in St just a good little robot in in St just a good little robot in in St Petersburg I could see Mr parrot a Petersburg I could see Mr parrot a Petersburg I could see Mr parrot a little bit too well what do you find little bit too well what do you find little bit too well what do you find funny come on let's this is an funny come on let's this is an funny come on let's this is an interesting subject well I find Mighty interesting subject well I find Mighty interesting subject well I find Mighty python I find absurdity funny yes I find python I find absurdity funny yes I find python I find absurdity funny yes I find absurdity funny I I think that's the absurdity funny I I think that's the absurdity funny I I think that's the thing when people come at me and maybe thing when people come at me and maybe thing when people come at me and maybe this is an Eastern European thing yeah this is an Eastern European thing yeah this is an Eastern European thing yeah when they're like how can you find this when they're like how can you find this when they're like how can you find this like very dark Subject funny it's like like very dark Subject funny it's like like very dark Subject funny it's like well the humor first of all the humor is well the humor first of all the humor is well the humor first of all the humor is that that that you're making fun of something that's you're making fun of something that's you're making fun of something that's dark so already it's absurd like it's dark so already it's absurd like it's dark so already it's absurd like it's completely inappropriate second just completely inappropriate second just completely inappropriate second just psychologically you know Joan Rivers psychologically you know Joan Rivers psychologically you know Joan Rivers said that Winston sherel said I don't said that Winston sherel said I don't said that Winston sherel said I don't know if it's true that when you make know if it's true that when you make know if it's true that when you make people laugh you're giving them a people laugh you're giving them a people laugh you're giving them a livication mhm and I was just thinking livication mhm and I was just thinking livication mhm and I was just thinking about this the other day how when I die about this the other day how when I die about this the other day how when I die if I want my funeral to be a roast yeah if I want my funeral to be a roast yeah if I want my funeral to be a roast yeah it doesn't help me that everyone's sad it doesn't help me that everyone's sad it doesn't help me that everyone's sad if I brought people happiness or joy in if I brought people happiness or joy in if I brought people happiness or joy in life whatever I want to keep doing that life whatever I want to keep doing that life whatever I want to keep doing that in death your sadness doesn't help me I in death your sadness doesn't help me I in death your sadness doesn't help me I know you can't help it but tell stories know you can't help it but tell stories know you can't help it but tell stories how I made you laugh make fun of me make how I made you laugh make fun of me make how I made you laugh make fun of me make me the punching bag even literally take me the punching bag even literally take me the punching bag even literally take me out of that coffin and beat the I me out of that coffin and beat the I me out of that coffin and beat the I don't make me a piñata I don't care so I don't make me a piñata I don't care so I don't make me a piñata I don't care so I I think and it it's it's I don't I think and it it's it's I don't I think and it it's it's I don't understand well I do understand but it's understand well I do understand but it's understand well I do understand but it's sad for me when people are like you know sad for me when people are like you know sad for me when people are like you know this isn't funny that isn't funny I the this isn't funny that isn't funny I the this isn't funny that isn't funny I the way I look at humor is the way it's like

way I look at humor is the way it's like way I look at humor is the way it's like a chef right it's pretty easy to make a chef right it's pretty easy to make a chef right it's pretty easy to make bacon taste good but some of these bacon taste good but some of these bacon taste good but some of these really obscure ingredients to make it really obscure ingredients to make it really obscure ingredients to make it palatable that's takes skill so if palatable that's takes skill so if palatable that's takes skill so if you're dealing with a subject that is you're dealing with a subject that is you're dealing with a subject that is very emotional or intense and you can very emotional or intense and you can very emotional or intense and you can make people make people make people laugh then that takes skill and that's laugh then that takes skill and that's laugh then that takes skill and that's the relief for them the relief for them the relief for them yeah it's all about timing yeah yeah what's the different you want to yeah what's the different you want to hear one of my jokes uh is it a pirate hear one of my jokes uh is it a pirate hear one of my jokes uh is it a pirate joke because that's the only that's the joke because that's the only that's the joke because that's the only that's the only kind I accept today but now go only kind I accept today but now go only kind I accept today but now go ahead it doesn't have to be a pirate ahead it doesn't have to be a pirate ahead it doesn't have to be a pirate joke this one time do you know who Leah joke this one time do you know who Leah joke this one time do you know who Leah Thomas is yeah what's the difference Thomas is yeah what's the difference Thomas is yeah what's the difference between Leah Thomas and Hitler what Leah between Leah Thomas and Hitler what Leah between Leah Thomas and Hitler what Leah Thomas knows how to finish a Thomas knows how to finish a Thomas knows how to finish a race very nice very nice did I just get race very nice very nice did I just get race very nice very nice did I just get the gold medal good job uh why does it the gold medal good job uh why does it the gold medal good job uh why does it take uh Pirates forever to get through take uh Pirates forever to get through take uh Pirates forever to get through the the the alphabet why because they spent years at alphabet why because they spent years at alphabet why because they spent years at C Oh I thought it was GNA be R joke C Oh I thought it was GNA be R joke C Oh I thought it was GNA be R joke that's a good one I like that yeah when that's a good one I like that yeah when that's a good one I like that yeah when I was in North Korea one oh you know I was in North Korea one oh you know I was in North Korea one oh you know Dennis robman it's a call back by the Dennis robman it's a call back by the Dennis robman it's a call back by the way the thing that is very heartbreaking way the thing that is very heartbreaking way the thing that is very heartbreaking about the North Korean situation is that about the North Korean situation is that about the North Korean situation is that they have great sense of humor they have great sense of humor they have great sense of humor uh it would be a lot easier if these uh it would be a lot easier if these uh it would be a lot easier if these were like robots or drones they have big were like robots or drones they have big were like robots or drones they have big personalities big sens of humor and that personalities big sens of humor and that personalities big sens of humor and that made it much harder to leave and

made it much harder to leave and made it much harder to leave and interact with these people because it interact with these people because it interact with these people because it it's I mean there's nothing more human it's I mean there's nothing more human it's I mean there's nothing more human and Universal than than laughter and and Universal than than laughter and and Universal than than laughter and laughter is free you saying there's laughter is free you saying there's laughter is free you saying there's humor even amongst the people that have humor even amongst the people that have humor even amongst the people that have most of their freedoms taken away most of their freedoms taken away most of their freedoms taken away especially I mean again we're from you especially I mean again we're from you especially I mean again we're from you know the Soviet Union like there's a know the Soviet Union like there's a know the Soviet Union like there's a anot there's a I mean Russian humor is a anot there's a I mean Russian humor is a anot there's a I mean Russian humor is a thing because it's there's nothing you thing because it's there's nothing you thing because it's there's nothing you can this if you can't have food or nice can this if you can't have food or nice can this if you can't have food or nice things at least you can have joy and things at least you can have joy and things at least you can have joy and make each other laugh I think about it make each other laugh I think about it make each other laugh I think about it all the time and I think about my guide all the time and I think about my guide all the time and I think about my guide all the time it's been what uh 2012 so all the time it's been what uh 2012 so all the time it's been what uh 2012 so it's been 11 years since I've been there it's been 11 years since I've been there it's been 11 years since I've been there and she's still there and everyone I've and she's still there and everyone I've and she's still there and everyone I've seen is still there they just recently seen is still there they just recently seen is still there they just recently um electrified the Border uh so you um electrified the Border uh so you um electrified the Border uh so you can't even even the few people who are can't even even the few people who are can't even even the few people who are escaping can't do it escaping can't do it escaping can't do it anymore but that's interesting that they anymore but that's interesting that they anymore but that's interesting that they still have a sense of humor I attributed still have a sense of humor I attributed still have a sense of humor I attributed to the Soviet Union for having that to the Soviet Union for having that to the Soviet Union for having that because of the uh like really deep because of the uh like really deep because of the uh like really deep education system like you you got to education system like you you got to education system like you you got to read a lot of literature okay and read a lot of literature okay and read a lot of literature okay and because of that you get to kind because of that you get to kind because of that you get to kind of learn about the the cruelty the of learn about the the cruelty the of learn about the the cruelty the injustices the absurdity of the world as injustices the absurdity of the world as injustices the absurdity of the world as long as the writing is not about the long as the writing is not about the long as the writing is not about the current regime yeah but I think like if current regime yeah but I think like if current regime yeah but I think like if you look at like African-Americans you look at like African-Americans you look at like African-Americans Jewish Americans gay Americans they are Jewish Americans gay Americans they are Jewish Americans gay Americans they are all disproportionate in terms of all disproportionate in terms of all disproportionate in terms of attributing to Comedy it's not because attributing to Comedy it's not because attributing to Comedy it's not because these groups have some kind of you know these groups have some kind of you know these groups have some kind of you know magic to them it's that when you are on magic to them it's that when you are on magic to them it's that when you are on the outside looking in a you're going to the outside looking in a you're going to the outside looking in a you're going to have perspective than the people who are have perspective than the people who are have perspective than the people who are in the middle of the bell curve but also in the middle of the bell curve but also in the middle of the bell curve but also when you don't have anything to lose at when you don't have anything to lose at when you don't have anything to lose at the very least you can make each other the very least you can make each other the very least you can make each other laugh and and find happiness that way um laugh and and find happiness that way um laugh and and find happiness that way um so you know that is something that I so you know that is something that I so you know that is something that I think um is an important thing to

think um is an important thing to think um is an important thing to recognize so what do you find funny what recognize so what do you find funny what recognize so what do you find funny what makes you giggle makes you giggle makes you giggle like in the most joyful of like in the most joyful of like in the most joyful of ways the suffering of others I mean I ways the suffering of others I mean I ways the suffering of others I mean I there are um YouTube videos of uh of there are um YouTube videos of uh of there are um YouTube videos of uh of like fat people falling down and they're like fat people falling down and they're like fat people falling down and they're they're really funny there's two kinds they're really funny there's two kinds they're really funny there's two kinds of people in this world those that laugh of people in this world those that laugh of people in this world those that laugh at those videos and those that don't no at those videos and those that don't no at those videos and those that don't no and those that are in and those that are in and those that are in them uh um my friend Jesse just told me them uh um my friend Jesse just told me them uh um my friend Jesse just told me a great Norm McDonald joke and this is a a great Norm McDonald joke and this is a a great Norm McDonald joke and this is a good litmus test joke because he says a good litmus test joke because he says a good litmus test joke because he says a certain group of people lose their minds certain group of people lose their minds certain group of people lose their minds and a certain group of people just stare and a certain group of people just stare and a certain group of people just stare at you and he goes this kind of and so at you and he goes this kind of and so at you and he goes this kind of and so I'll tell you the joke this is nor I'll tell you the joke this is nor I'll tell you the joke this is nor McDonald guy walks into a bar and he McDonald guy walks into a bar and he McDonald guy walks into a bar and he sees someone at the bar who has a big sees someone at the bar who has a big sees someone at the bar who has a big pumpkin for a head and the guy's like pumpkin for a head and the guy's like pumpkin for a head and the guy's like dude what happened to you he goes H you dude what happened to you he goes H you dude what happened to you he goes H you never believe this I got one of those never believe this I got one of those never believe this I got one of those Genie lamps and this Genie he's like Genie lamps and this Genie he's like Genie lamps and this Genie he's like what happened he goes well the first what happened he goes well the first what happened he goes well the first wish you know I wish for $100 million wish you know I wish for $100 million wish you know I wish for $100 million he's like yeah you get he goes yeah you he's like yeah you get he goes yeah you he's like yeah you get he goes yeah you he was in my bank account it was fine he he was in my bank account it was fine he he was in my bank account it was fine he goes all right well the second wish I goes all right well the second wish I goes all right well the second wish I wish to have sex with as many beautiful wish to have sex with as many beautiful wish to have sex with as many beautiful women as I wanted he goes did that women as I wanted he goes did that women as I wanted he goes did that happen goes yeah it was amazing he goes happen goes yeah it was amazing he goes happen goes yeah it was amazing he goes then well well I wish for a giant then well well I wish for a giant then well well I wish for a giant pumpkin head yeah so there's a certain mindset head yeah so there's a certain mindset that will just be staring at the screen that will just be staring at the screen that will just be staring at the screen and that is I mean there's so many and that is I mean there's so many and that is I mean there's so many levels why that's funny at least to me levels why that's funny at least to me levels why that's funny at least to me and I I just love that kind of well nor

and I I just love that kind of well nor and I I just love that kind of well nor McDonald is like uh just I watch his McDonald is like uh just I watch his McDonald is like uh just I watch his videos all time he's he's a guy that videos all time he's he's a guy that videos all time he's he's a guy that definitely makes me giggle and he's one definitely makes me giggle and he's one definitely makes me giggle and he's one of the people that makes me giggle for of the people that makes me giggle for of the people that makes me giggle for reasons I don't quite understand did you reasons I don't quite understand did you reasons I don't quite understand did you ever see with katop on um Conan O'Brien ever see with katop on um Conan O'Brien ever see with katop on um Conan O'Brien no are making fun of katop no he this is no are making fun of katop no he this is no are making fun of katop no he this is probably the best talk show clip of all probably the best talk show clip of all probably the best talk show clip of all time he's on with Courtney Thorn Smith time he's on with Courtney Thorn Smith time he's on with Courtney Thorn Smith she was on Melrose Place and con br's she was on Melrose Place and con br's she was on Melrose Place and con br's the host and Courtney's talking about the host and Courtney's talking about the host and Courtney's talking about how she's going to be an upcoming movie how she's going to be an upcoming movie how she's going to be an upcoming movie with katop and Cen is like oh what's it with katop and Cen is like oh what's it with katop and Cen is like oh what's it GNA be called and she's like doesn't GNA be called and she's like doesn't GNA be called and she's like doesn't have a title yet and Norman goes oh I have a title yet and Norman goes oh I have a title yet and Norman goes oh I know what should be called box office know what should be called box office know what should be called box office poison and laughing and she's like no no poison and laughing and she's like no no poison and laughing and she's like no no no like the working title is chairman of no like the working title is chairman of no like the working title is chairman of the board and Conan goes do something the board and Conan goes do something the board and Conan goes do something with that smartass and Norman goes yeah with that smartass and Norman goes yeah with that smartass and Norman goes yeah board is spelled b o r e d and they all board is spelled b o r e d and they all board is spelled b o r e d and they all just completely lost it there's just completely lost it there's just completely lost it there's something about him with words spoken something about him with words spoken something about him with words spoken out of his mouth with the way he like out of his mouth with the way he like out of his mouth with the way he like turns his head and looks at the camera I turns his head and looks at the camera I turns his head and looks at the camera I think he is one of those rare think he is one of those rare think he is one of those rare comedians who you really feel like he's comedians who you really feel like he's comedians who you really feel like he's talking you directly yeah he feels like talking you directly yeah he feels like talking you directly yeah he feels like he's winking at you yeah in the audience he's winking at you yeah in the audience he's winking at you yeah in the audience and he's like can you can you believe and he's like can you can you believe and he's like can you can you believe I'm doing this like it's it's like he I'm doing this like it's it's like he I'm doing this like it's it's like he almost he feels like he's I don't want almost he feels like he's I don't want almost he feels like he's I don't want to say imposter but like he's more a to say imposter but like he's more a to say imposter but like he's more a member of the audience than he is a member of the audience than he is a member of the audience than he is a member of the people on the stage yeah member of the people on the stage yeah member of the people on the stage yeah it feels like he's on our side whatever it feels like he's on our side whatever it feels like he's on our side whatever whatever the hell our means you know whatever the hell our means you know whatever the hell our means you know Roseanne got him his first job man Roseanne got him his first job man Roseanne got him his first job man Rosanne you and her have been hanging

Rosanne you and her have been hanging Rosanne you and her have been hanging out I got it oh my God talk about out I got it oh my God talk about out I got it oh my God talk about Thanksgiving Thanksgiving Thanksgiving um when you are talking to Rosanne bar um when you are talking to Rosanne bar um when you are talking to Rosanne bar and making eye contact with this person and making eye contact with this person and making eye contact with this person it is I I can't even describe it it's it is I I can't even describe it it's it is I I can't even describe it it's just like holy crap rosean Bar's talking just like holy crap rosean Bar's talking just like holy crap rosean Bar's talking to me she is I've said this to her face to me she is I've said this to her face to me she is I've said this to her face pathologically funny like it does not pathologically funny like it does not pathologically funny like it does not turn off and you're sitting there and turn off and you're sitting there and turn off and you're sitting there and you're like holy crap and when you make you're like holy crap and when you make you're like holy crap and when you make her laugh which is that laugh that's in her laugh which is that laugh that's in her laugh which is that laugh that's in the theme song of her show you feel like the theme song of her show you feel like the theme song of her show you feel like okay I did a Mitzvah I did something okay I did a Mitzvah I did something okay I did a Mitzvah I did something good and right in the world that I made good and right in the world that I made good and right in the world that I made Roseanne Bar laugh um and it's also Roseanne Bar laugh um and it's also Roseanne Bar laugh um and it's also really funny because and she's going to really funny because and she's going to really funny because and she's going to hate this cuz I tell her she's adorable hate this cuz I tell her she's adorable hate this cuz I tell her she's adorable she doesn't like that she's little you she doesn't like that she's little you she doesn't like that she's little you think of rosean bar as this like force think of rosean bar as this like force think of rosean bar as this like force of nature like a tsunami she's like 53 of nature like a tsunami she's like 53 of nature like a tsunami she's like 53 I'd say like maybe 1:30 like and she's I'd say like maybe 1:30 like and she's I'd say like maybe 1:30 like and she's and she puts on the sunglasses you think and she puts on the sunglasses you think and she puts on the sunglasses you think this little old Jewish lady you'd never this little old Jewish lady you'd never this little old Jewish lady you'd never know this is one of the most epic know this is one of the most epic know this is one of the most epic performers of all time she lives near performers of all time she lives near performers of all time she lives near here now so it's just so much fun here now so it's just so much fun here now so it's just so much fun talking to her there was an old talking to her there was an old talking to her there was an old satirical magazine in the I think like satirical magazine in the I think like satirical magazine in the I think like uh early 2000s called hee written by uh early 2000s called hee written by uh early 2000s called hee written by Jews and she dressed up as Hitler for Jews and she dressed up as Hitler for Jews and she dressed up as Hitler for one of the photo shoots and she was B one of the photo shoots and she was B one of the photo shoots and she was B little men in the oven I got I found it little men in the oven I got I found it little men in the oven I got I found it on eBay I wanted her to sign it to on eBay I wanted her to sign it to on eBay I wanted her to sign it to Michael it should have been you yeah but Michael it should have been you yeah but Michael it should have been you yeah but she signed it to Michael you're one she signed it to Michael you're one she signed it to Michael you're one smart cookie and now it hangs love Mom smart cookie and now it hangs love Mom smart cookie and now it hangs love Mom Rosen bar and I call her mom and it Rosen bar and I call her mom and it Rosen bar and I call her mom and it hangs over my uh desk cuz have her like hangs over my uh desk cuz have her like hangs over my uh desk cuz have her like good domestic goddess energy flowing at

me me what what do you find what else so nor what what do you find what else so nor what what do you find what else so nor McDonald nor my favorite comedian is we McDonald nor my favorite comedian is we McDonald nor my favorite comedian is we agree on something my favorite comedian agree on something my favorite comedian agree on something my favorite comedian of all time is Neil of all time is Neil of all time is Neil hamburger so Neil hamburger I don't know hamburger so Neil hamburger I don't know hamburger so Neil hamburger I don't know if I'm ruining the bit he's a character if I'm ruining the bit he's a character if I'm ruining the bit he's a character uh performed by this guy named Greg uh performed by this guy named Greg uh performed by this guy named Greg turkington so he comes out in a tuxedo turkington so he comes out in a tuxedo turkington so he comes out in a tuxedo big eyeglasses holding three glasses of big eyeglasses holding three glasses of big eyeglasses holding three glasses of water coughing into the water coughing into the water coughing into the mic and I remember I saw him once in um mic and I remember I saw him once in um mic and I remember I saw him once in um LA and the girl ahead of me at the table LA and the girl ahead of me at the table LA and the girl ahead of me at the table ahead of me was with her boyfriend this ahead of me was with her boyfriend this ahead of me was with her boyfriend this basic chick pumpkin spice she turns to basic chick pumpkin spice she turns to basic chick pumpkin spice she turns to him and she goes what is this and I him and she goes what is this and I him and she goes what is this and I remember the first time he was on Jimmy remember the first time he was on Jimmy remember the first time he was on Jimmy Kimmel and he tells one of his jokes and Kimmel and he tells one of his jokes and Kimmel and he tells one of his jokes and he like um uh why does ET like Reese's he like um uh why does ET like Reese's he like um uh why does ET like Reese's Pieces so much well that's what sperm Pieces so much well that's what sperm Pieces so much well that's what sperm tastes like on his home planet and like tastes like on his home planet and like tastes like on his home planet and like no one laughs and he goes oh come on no one laughs and he goes oh come on no one laughs and he goes oh come on guys I have guys I have guys I have cancer and it just cuts to this Marine cancer and it just cuts to this Marine cancer and it just cuts to this Marine in the audience with his arms crossed um in the audience with his arms crossed um in the audience with his arms crossed um so if you know what he's doing yeah it's so if you know what he's doing yeah it's so if you know what he's doing yeah it's just absolutely amazing he opened for just absolutely amazing he opened for just absolutely amazing he opened for Tenacious D once in uh somewhere I think Tenacious D once in uh somewhere I think Tenacious D once in uh somewhere I think in Ireland or the UK one of those and in Ireland or the UK one of those and in Ireland or the UK one of those and they're booing him because his jokes are they're booing him because his jokes are they're booing him because his jokes are often not funny he's like hey where did often not funny he's like hey where did often not funny he's like hey where did my uh whore ex-wife run off to with that my uh whore ex-wife run off to with that my uh whore ex-wife run off to with that dentist she's shacking up with I don't dentist she's shacking up with I don't dentist she's shacking up with I don't know but when I see her in court next know but when I see her in court next know but when I see her in court next month month month Alaska so they're booing and he goes all

Alaska so they're booing and he goes all Alaska so they're booing and he goes all right do you guys want me to bring out right do you guys want me to bring out right do you guys want me to bring out Tenacious D they're like yeah do you Tenacious D they're like yeah do you Tenacious D they're like yeah do you want to see your Heroes of mine want to see your Heroes of mine want to see your Heroes of mine Tenacious D yeah come on let me hear do Tenacious D yeah come on let me hear do Tenacious D yeah come on let me hear do you want to see Tena St yeah he goes all you want to see Tena St yeah he goes all you want to see Tena St yeah he goes all right uh if I tell this next joke and right uh if I tell this next joke and right uh if I tell this next joke and you don't boo me I'll bring out you don't boo me I'll bring out you don't boo me I'll bring out Tenacious D and it's like uh um I'm Tenacious D and it's like uh um I'm Tenacious D and it's like uh um I'm trying to think of one that's not too uh trying to think of one that's not too uh trying to think of one that's not too uh um s censorship is never good okay he um s censorship is never good okay he um s censorship is never good okay he goes um can we agree that George Bush is goes um can we agree that George Bush is goes um can we agree that George Bush is the worst president America's ever had the worst president America's ever had the worst president America's ever had andone claps he goes which makes it all andone claps he goes which makes it all andone claps he goes which makes it all the stranger that his son George W Bush the stranger that his son George W Bush the stranger that his son George W Bush was in fact the best I take it back in was in fact the best I take it back in was in fact the best I take it back in the the the self-censorship so two people laugh and self-censorship so two people laugh and self-censorship so two people laugh and he goes oh that's amazing I guess I'll he goes oh that's amazing I guess I'll he goes oh that's amazing I guess I'll do an encore and he did 10 more minutes do an encore and he did 10 more minutes do an encore and he did 10 more minutes it was just just like I love him so much it was just just like I love him so much it was just just like I love him so much it's interesting they opened for it's interesting they opened for it's interesting they opened for Tenacious D Jack Black that's a comedic Tenacious D Jack Black that's a comedic Tenacious D Jack Black that's a comedic Genius of a different kind oh yeah and Genius of a different kind oh yeah and Genius of a different kind oh yeah and he was in one of my favorite movies uh he was in one of my favorite movies uh he was in one of my favorite movies uh Jesus's son it's this Little Indie movie Jesus's son it's this Little Indie movie Jesus's son it's this Little Indie movie um he did a great turn in that he's um he did a great turn in that he's um he did a great turn in that he's really underrated as an actor he's got a really underrated as an actor he's got a really underrated as an actor he's got a lot of range like I know they kind of lot of range like I know they kind of lot of range like I know they kind of kind of get types cast as this kind of kind of get types cast as this kind of kind of get types cast as this kind of one specific type but he's really really one specific type but he's really really one specific type but he's really really talented but also just like the pure joy talented but also just like the pure joy talented but also just like the pure joy yes he's clearly having yes he's clearly having yes he's clearly having fun okay uh it is Thanksgiving so in the fun okay uh it is Thanksgiving so in the fun okay uh it is Thanksgiving so in the tradition following tradition what are tradition following tradition what are tradition following tradition what are you thankful for Michael in this world you thankful for Michael in this world you thankful for Michael in this world do you have a list too no not really do you have a list too no not really do you have a list too no not really really it's up in here oh I mean but you really it's up in here oh I mean but you really it's up in here oh I mean but you have several things you're thankful for

have several things you're thankful for have several things you're thankful for yes okay yes one of the things I my list yes okay yes one of the things I my list yes okay yes one of the things I my list comes from the heart I don't have to comes from the heart I don't have to comes from the heart I don't have to write anything down well I don't have write anything down well I don't have write anything down well I don't have written down okay one of the things that written down okay one of the things that written down okay one of the things that I'm most thankful for this is a common I'm most thankful for this is a common I'm most thankful for this is a common answer but I I can back it up is my answer but I I can back it up is my answer but I I can back it up is my family because my nephew Lucas is now family because my nephew Lucas is now family because my nephew Lucas is now six years six years six years old and he when kids have a sense of old and he when kids have a sense of old and he when kids have a sense of humor it's like just miraculous so he humor it's like just miraculous so he humor it's like just miraculous so he stole my sister's phone his mom figured stole my sister's phone his mom figured stole my sister's phone his mom figured out that Grandma is listed as Mom in the out that Grandma is listed as Mom in the out that Grandma is listed as Mom in the phone and he calls her up and he's like phone and he calls her up and he's like phone and he calls her up and he's like Michael's in the hospital he's really Michael's in the hospital he's really Michael's in the hospital he's really sick he didn't want to tell you and sick he didn't want to tell you and sick he didn't want to tell you and she's freaking out he goes prank so I I she's freaking out he goes prank so I I she's freaking out he goes prank so I I took him uh denes dza just released a took him uh denes dza just released a took him uh denes dza just released a movie called police state which was movie called police state which was movie called police state which was actually really good um highly recommend actually really good um highly recommend actually really good um highly recommend it I was surprised how much I liked it it I was surprised how much I liked it it I was surprised how much I liked it there because he wasn't going there because he wasn't going there because he wasn't going Republicans good Democrats bad it was Republicans good Democrats bad it was Republicans good Democrats bad it was just about just about just about authoritarianism and he had a movie authoritarianism and he had a movie authoritarianism and he had a movie premiere at Mar Lago so I'm like I got premiere at Mar Lago so I'm like I got premiere at Mar Lago so I'm like I got to bring Lucas to maralago so Lucas is to bring Lucas to maralago so Lucas is to bring Lucas to maralago so Lucas is I'm like we're going to the president's I'm like we're going to the president's I'm like we're going to the president's house he's like oh the White House and house he's like oh the White House and house he's like oh the White House and I'm like no like a former president goes I'm like no like a former president goes I'm like no like a former president goes oh a Lincoln and I'm like okay kid lodic oh a Lincoln and I'm like okay kid lodic oh a Lincoln and I'm like okay kid lodic like he's he's giving logical answers like he's he's giving logical answers like he's he's giving logical answers this is kind of like AI you have to you this is kind of like AI you have to you this is kind of like AI you have to you have to program it to it's using logic have to program it to it's using logic have to program it to it's using logic correctly you should have told him there correctly you should have told him there correctly you should have told him there a president that's second to only AB a president that's second to only AB a president that's second to only AB Lincoln in terms ofs yeah um Lincoln in terms ofs yeah um Lincoln in terms ofs yeah um he uh went up to all the women in their he uh went up to all the women in their he uh went up to all the women in their ball gown you know evening gowns and he ball gown you know evening gowns and he ball gown you know evening gowns and he goes you're so beautiful were you born

goes you're so beautiful were you born goes you're so beautiful were you born as a girl so when you have this as a girl so when you have this as a girl so when you have this six-year-old asking you this it was six-year-old asking you this it was six-year-old asking you this it was really really really really really really um so that is a great joy to have a um so that is a great joy to have a um so that is a great joy to have a nephew and I have another one Zach who's nephew and I have another one Zach who's nephew and I have another one Zach who's coming up uh in age and he's starting to coming up uh in age and he's starting to coming up uh in age and he's starting to talk now that is really really fun for talk now that is really really fun for talk now that is really really fun for get getting uh to watch them you know get getting uh to watch them you know get getting uh to watch them you know find out about about the world for the find out about about the world for the find out about about the world for the first time and also training them like first time and also training them like first time and also training them like that he he want he loves being funny and that he he want he loves being funny and that he he want he loves being funny and having fun you're your as audience in a having fun you're your as audience in a having fun you're your as audience in a in a sense yeah but because you giggle in a sense yeah but because you giggle in a sense yeah but because you giggle and I I give he we prank Bros it gives and I I give he we prank Bros it gives and I I give he we prank Bros it gives me a high five my family and this is one me a high five my family and this is one me a high five my family and this is one you talk about what I find funny these you talk about what I find funny these you talk about what I find funny these are things that actually enrage me when are things that actually enrage me when are things that actually enrage me when people and this such a wasp thing don't people and this such a wasp thing don't people and this such a wasp thing don't just go with the joke or they're like I just go with the joke or they're like I just go with the joke or they're like I don't get it or they don't understand to don't get it or they don't understand to don't get it or they don't understand to just go with it I was in the car with my just go with it I was in the car with my just go with it I was in the car with my sister when she was like 10 12 whatever sister when she was like 10 12 whatever sister when she was like 10 12 whatever she's much younger than me she's like 12 she's much younger than me she's like 12 she's much younger than me she's like 12 years younger and there's this species years younger and there's this species years younger and there's this species of squid by the way which is asymmetric of squid by the way which is asymmetric of squid by the way which is asymmetric one of its eyes is very much bigger than one of its eyes is very much bigger than one of its eyes is very much bigger than the other cuz it swims horizontally and the other cuz it swims horizontally and the other cuz it swims horizontally and so one's looking up one's looking down so one's looking up one's looking down so one's looking up one's looking down with this more light uh shout out if you with this more light uh shout out if you with this more light uh shout out if you want to learn more about squids go to O want to learn more about squids go to O want to learn more about squids go to O donation.com octonation shout out shout donation.com octonation shout out shout donation.com octonation shout out shout out to Warren there's a lot of out to Warren there's a lot of out to Warren there's a lot of fascinating stuff octonation on fascinating stuff octonation on fascinating stuff octonation on Instagram yes um I was in the car with Instagram yes um I was in the car with Instagram yes um I was in the car with my sister she's like 10 or 12 me as a my sister she's like 10 or 12 me as a my sister she's like 10 or 12 me as a pirate I don't I'm sorry for the rude pirate I don't I'm sorry for the rude pirate I don't I'm sorry for the rude interruptions I I appreciate that interruptions I I appreciate that interruptions I I appreciate that account especially yeah it's a great account especially yeah it's a great account especially yeah it's a great yeah these jokes and thoughts are coming yeah these jokes and thoughts are coming yeah these jokes and thoughts are coming to me at a like a 10-second delay so I to me at a like a 10-second delay so I to me at a like a 10-second delay so I apologize anyway you were telling about apologize anyway you were telling about apologize anyway you were telling about the don't worry got it all right um so I

the don't worry got it all right um so I the don't worry got it all right um so I told sometimes you need help no just told sometimes you need help no just told sometimes you need help no just getting to getting to getting to you I was uh your skin is showing you I was uh your skin is showing you I was uh your skin is showing it it's getting dark I told my sister I it it's getting dark I told my sister I it it's getting dark I told my sister I go when you were born um one of your go when you were born um one of your go when you were born um one of your eyes was bigger than the other and you eyes was bigger than the other and you eyes was bigger than the other and you had to have surgery to fix it so she had to have surgery to fix it so she had to have surgery to fix it so she turn she's like Mom and my mom goes turn she's like Mom and my mom goes turn she's like Mom and my mom goes honey the important thing is that you're honey the important thing is that you're honey the important thing is that you're beautiful now that's all it's like beautiful now that's all it's like beautiful now that's all it's like what's the big deal it was just a little what's the big deal it was just a little what's the big deal it was just a little surgery and I say's like all right calls surgery and I say's like all right calls surgery and I say's like all right calls grandma and Grandma goes uh she goes grandma and Grandma goes uh she goes grandma and Grandma goes uh she goes Michael said that when I was born one of Michael said that when I was born one of Michael said that when I was born one of the eyes she goes why is he telling you the eyes she goes why is he telling you the eyes she goes why is he telling you this now it's not a big deal you were so this now it's not a big deal you were so this now it's not a big deal you were so the fact that everyone went with this oh the fact that everyone went with this oh the fact that everyone went with this oh was I was so impressed I was like this was I was so impressed I was like this was I was so impressed I was like this is a quality family in this very is a quality family in this very is a quality family in this very specific regard yeah does your family specific regard yeah does your family specific regard yeah does your family have a sense of humor uh yeah yeah yeah have a sense of humor uh yeah yeah yeah have a sense of humor uh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you know Soviet culture yeah yeah yeah you know Soviet culture yeah yeah yeah you know Soviet culture there's like a dark sense of humor very there's like a dark sense of humor very there's like a dark sense of humor very much there's wit there's uh word play much there's wit there's uh word play much there's wit there's uh word play word play uh yeah yeah especially the word play uh yeah yeah especially the word play uh yeah yeah especially the Russian language allows for some Russian language allows for some Russian language allows for some like hilarity to it there's also culture like hilarity to it there's also culture like hilarity to it there's also culture of like poetry and like um my dad my mom of like poetry and like um my dad my mom of like poetry and like um my dad my mom too but they they remember a lot of too but they they remember a lot of too but they they remember a lot of lines from books and poems so there's lines from books and poems so there's lines from books and poems so there's just you can do a lot of fasinating just you can do a lot of fasinating just you can do a lot of fasinating references that add to the humor and the references that add to the humor and the references that add to the humor and the richness of the of I feel like that's a richness of the of I feel like that's a richness of the of I feel like that's a very Russian thing like at a party or very Russian thing like at a party or very Russian thing like at a party or maybe at a bar or something I don't know maybe at a bar or something I don't know maybe at a bar or something I don't know where you'd meet people these are such where you'd meet people these are such where you'd meet people these are such great go out I meant in Russia I meant

great go out I meant in Russia I meant great go out I meant in Russia I meant these would such good ice breakers right these would such good ice breakers right these would such good ice breakers right you go up to someone goes hey did you you go up to someone goes hey did you you go up to someone goes hey did you hear this one no anecd do and you just hear this one no anecd do and you just hear this one no anecd do and you just tell him some little story did you say tell him some little story did you say tell him some little story did you say ice breakers cuz it's cold in Russia I'm here all night that's you Russia I'm here all night that's you never leave literally never leave literally never leave literally so I feel like that's a thing yeah and so I feel like that's a thing yeah and so I feel like that's a thing yeah and that's not a thing in that's not a thing in that's not a thing in America uh you mean like w witty banter America uh you mean like w witty banter America uh you mean like w witty banter no meaning you go up to a stranger and no meaning you go up to a stranger and no meaning you go up to a stranger and like that's your ice breaker you tell like that's your ice breaker you tell like that's your ice breaker you tell them this little little joke and since them this little little joke and since them this little little joke and since everyone kind of has the same everyone kind of has the same everyone kind of has the same sensibilities right away you guys are sensibilities right away you guys are sensibilities right away you guys are chatting I don't think that's a thing chatting I don't think that's a thing chatting I don't think that's a thing here yeah think here it's more Small here yeah think here it's more Small here yeah think here it's more Small Talk which drives me crazy so what else Talk which drives me crazy so what else Talk which drives me crazy so what else do you thankful for well what I what's do you thankful for well what I what's do you thankful for well what I what's something you're thankful for well you something you're thankful for well you something you're thankful for well you went for family I'm definitely thankful went for family I'm definitely thankful went for family I'm definitely thankful for family okay yeah how if I may ask for family okay yeah how if I may ask for family okay yeah how if I may ask how do they react to you like you're how do they react to you like you're how do they react to you like you're sitting down with Elon you're sitting sitting down with Elon you're sitting sitting down with Elon you're sitting down with Netanyahu you're sitting down down with Netanyahu you're sitting down down with Netanyahu you're sitting down with all these like big with Kanye all with all these like big with Kanye all with all these like big with Kanye all these big names are they expressing that these big names are they expressing that these big names are they expressing that they're proud of you or is it more like they're proud of you or is it more like they're proud of you or is it more like why haven't you talked to this person why haven't you talked to this person why haven't you talked to this person yeah more Michael mes yeah more Michael mes yeah more Michael mes please The People's Choice yeah yeah please The People's Choice yeah yeah please The People's Choice yeah yeah they're they're very proud they've been they're they're very proud they've been they're they're very proud they've been very they're very I mean but they get very they're very I mean but they get very they're very I mean but they get argumentative when we just they're just argumentative when we just they're just argumentative when we just they're just like a like a like a regular human being with whom I'm close regular human being with whom I'm close regular human being with whom I'm close and we just argue about stuff they're and we just argue about stuff they're and we just argue about stuff they're not maybe not enough showed the being not maybe not enough showed the being not maybe not enough showed the being proud of but that that part is just the proud of but that that part is just the proud of but that that part is just the nature of our relationship it's also nature of our relationship it's also nature of our relationship it's also Soviet parents yeah I don't talk to my Soviet parents yeah I don't talk to my Soviet parents yeah I don't talk to my dad that's one the reasons cuz there's

dad that's one the reasons cuz there's dad that's one the reasons cuz there's never ever any never ever any never ever any um good job and at a certain point it's um good job and at a certain point it's um good job and at a certain point it's like why am I trying like why am I trying like why am I trying to S SE search for approval from someone to S SE search for approval from someone to S SE search for approval from someone I'm never getting get it for and from I'm never getting get it for and from I'm never getting get it for and from who it wouldn't mean anything at this who it wouldn't mean anything at this who it wouldn't mean anything at this point anyway well that's interesting I point anyway well that's interesting I point anyway well that's interesting I mean there's a journey like that for a mean there's a journey like that for a mean there's a journey like that for a lot of people with their father or with lot of people with their father or with lot of people with their father or with their mother like they're always trying their mother like they're always trying their mother like they're always trying to find approval right and that's life to find approval right and that's life to find approval right and that's life for a lot of people yeah that's that's a for a lot of people yeah that's that's a for a lot of people yeah that's that's a really big part of the human condition really big part of the human condition really big part of the human condition is that relationship you have with your is that relationship you have with your is that relationship you have with your father with your mother I don't know father with your mother I don't know father with your mother I don't know it's a beautiful thing so it's whether it's a beautiful thing so it's whether it's a beautiful thing so it's whether it's been a rough childhood or beautiful it's been a rough childhood or beautiful it's been a rough childhood or beautiful one all of it that's who you are like one all of it that's who you are like one all of it that's who you are like that the relationship especially early that the relationship especially early that the relationship especially early on in your life with your father with on in your life with your father with on in your life with your father with your mother is like extremely formative your mother is like extremely formative your mother is like extremely formative yeah so my dad taught me a lot of things yeah so my dad taught me a lot of things yeah so my dad taught me a lot of things at a young age that I'm very very at a young age that I'm very very at a young age that I'm very very grateful for uh he was he's extremely grateful for uh he was he's extremely grateful for uh he was he's extremely intelligent very flawed and that's fine intelligent very flawed and that's fine intelligent very flawed and that's fine we all are um except for me um and it's we all are um except for me um and it's we all are um except for me um and it's the kind of things that when you learn the kind of things that when you learn the kind of things that when you learn things at a right AE and this is one of things at a right AE and this is one of things at a right AE and this is one of the things I like about being older is the things I like about being older is the things I like about being older is that when I'm friends much older when that when I'm friends much older when that when I'm friends much older when but much much older when I have friends but much much older when I have friends but much much older when I have friends who are younger it's very easy for me to who are younger it's very easy for me to who are younger it's very easy for me to keep them from making the mistakes I did keep them from making the mistakes I did keep them from making the mistakes I did so at least this is something I'm so at least this is something I'm so at least this is something I'm getting out of it is that okay I can't getting out of it is that okay I can't getting out of it is that okay I can't fix these mistakes but it just takes me fix these mistakes but it just takes me fix these mistakes but it just takes me 30 seconds and I can pull you back from 30 seconds and I can pull you back from 30 seconds and I can pull you back from making the mistake so he taught me a lot making the mistake so he taught me a lot making the mistake so he taught me a lot as a kid he really encouraged me very

as a kid he really encouraged me very as a kid he really encouraged me very much to he's a very good sense of humor much to he's a very good sense of humor much to he's a very good sense of humor and also very bad in some ways um Dad and also very bad in some ways um Dad and also very bad in some ways um Dad jokes but also really funny jokes but jokes but also really funny jokes but jokes but also really funny jokes but also this love of learning uh that I got also this love of learning uh that I got also this love of learning uh that I got that from him and I mean I I have got that from him and I mean I I have got that from him and I mean I I have got literally right now 98 books on my shelf literally right now 98 books on my shelf literally right now 98 books on my shelf to read it's just a life that makes me I to read it's just a life that makes me I to read it's just a life that makes me I remember I had a friend and she ran into remember I had a friend and she ran into remember I had a friend and she ran into someone she went to high school with and someone she went to high school with and someone she went to high school with and he stopped on the train and he's like yo he stopped on the train and he's like yo he stopped on the train and he's like yo you're not in college you don't need to you're not in college you don't need to you're not in college you don't need to read books anymore and I was just like read books anymore and I was just like read books anymore and I was just like horrified to hear this yeah yeah boy horrified to hear this yeah yeah boy horrified to hear this yeah yeah boy don't I know it I mean I mean I I you don't I know it I mean I mean I I you don't I know it I mean I mean I I you laugh but like I I when you got there's laugh but like I I when you got there's laugh but like I I when you got there's a lot of things I don't understand when a lot of things I don't understand when a lot of things I don't understand when you got heat for like I want to read the you got heat for like I want to read the you got heat for like I want to read the Western Classics to me that that might Western Classics to me that that might Western Classics to me that that might have been like the internet at its have been like the internet at its have been like the internet at its absolute worst I I think there's just a absolute worst I I think there's just a absolute worst I I think there's just a cynical perspective you can take that cynical perspective you can take that cynical perspective you can take that they're this is such a simple C ation of they're this is such a simple C ation of they're this is such a simple C ation of a thing that there must be something a thing that there must be something a thing that there must be something behind it I think the internet for good behind it I think the internet for good behind it I think the internet for good and bad is just skeptical like what's and bad is just skeptical like what's and bad is just skeptical like what's behind this my hero Albert kamu and if behind this my hero Albert kamu and if behind this my hero Albert kamu and if there's one thing I would want to fight there's one thing I would want to fight there's one thing I would want to fight it's cynicism yeah because it's such a it's cynicism yeah because it's such a it's cynicism yeah because it's such a giving up it's such everything sucks giving up it's such everything sucks giving up it's such everything sucks this sucks that suck this sucks most this sucks that suck this sucks most this sucks that suck this sucks most things suck most standard comedians suck things suck most standard comedians suck things suck most standard comedians suck most movies suck all podcasts suck um most movies suck all podcasts suck um most movies suck all podcasts suck um but it doesn't matter Especially Yours but it doesn't matter Especially Yours but it doesn't matter Especially Yours especially mine it's it's watchable especially mine it's it's watchable especially mine it's it's watchable you're welcome he can't even spell it

correctly umh but the stuff that's good correctly umh but the stuff that's good is what is what is what matters the who cares if 90% of movies matters the who cares if 90% of movies matters the who cares if 90% of movies are terrible like they're the ones that are terrible like they're the ones that are terrible like they're the ones that change your life the books the people change your life the books the people change your life the books the people the The Comedians the shows the music the The Comedians the shows the music the The Comedians the shows the music and even the Terrible Things have good and even the Terrible Things have good and even the Terrible Things have good moments Beautiful Moments some not all moments Beautiful Moments some not all moments Beautiful Moments some not all your podcast being an example of not all your podcast being an example of not all your podcast being an example of not all I've literally just I keep listening for I've literally just I keep listening for I've literally just I keep listening for something good something good in all something good something good in all something good something good in all fairness none of my guests have anything fairness none of my guests have anything fairness none of my guests have anything to to to offer it's not on me I try yeah well I offer it's not on me I try yeah well I offer it's not on me I try yeah well I wish you'd talk a little less in your wish you'd talk a little less in your wish you'd talk a little less in your podcast it's a little excessive I only podcast it's a little excessive I only podcast it's a little excessive I only listen for the underwear listen for the underwear listen for the underwear commercials she underwear. comom prob on commercials she underwear. comom prob on commercials she underwear. comom prob on malice I think he did this malice I think he did this malice I think he did this um I haven't seen you do in a while but um I haven't seen you do in a while but um I haven't seen you do in a while but this kind of commentary on on a debate this kind of commentary on on a debate this kind of commentary on on a debate or um I think it was with Rand like an i or um I think it was with Rand like an i or um I think it was with Rand like an i Rand debate or something oh yeah malice Rand debate or something oh yeah malice Rand debate or something oh yeah malice at the movies I watched the video and at the movies I watched the video and at the movies I watched the video and and I broke it down that was really and I broke it down that was really and I broke it down that was really great I wish you did that more I've I great I wish you did that more I've I great I wish you did that more I've I haven't done live streaming in a long haven't done live streaming in a long haven't done live streaming in a long time I it was something I was doing a time I it was something I was doing a time I it was something I was doing a lot in New York especially during covid lot in New York especially during covid lot in New York especially during covid I feel that um I don't know I'm having I I feel that um I don't know I'm having I I feel that um I don't know I'm having I got so many projects on the got so many projects on the got so many projects on the plate uh I'm oh this is something else plate uh I'm oh this is something else plate uh I'm oh this is something else I'm thankful for this is something I'm I'm thankful for this is something I'm I'm thankful for this is something I'm very very thankful for and I'm I'm going very very thankful for and I'm I'm going very very thankful for and I'm I'm going to announce it here coming out of the CL to announce it here coming out of the CL to announce it here coming out of the CL finally go ahead who's the lucky ahead who's the lucky [Laughter]

[Laughter] [Laughter] guy you're the one in drag H guns out he makes he makes me drag H guns out he makes he makes me call him sex call him sex call him sex Freedman uh you like it so I didn't say Freedman uh you like it so I didn't say Freedman uh you like it so I didn't say I did all right didn't even imply that I did all right didn't even imply that I did all right didn't even imply that when I in as you probably know when I in as you probably know when I in as you probably know as you know but as many people watching as you know but as many people watching as you know but as many people watching this also know uh Harvey par car who had this also know uh Harvey par car who had this also know uh Harvey par car who had the comic book series American Splendor the comic book series American Splendor the comic book series American Splendor was the subject of movie American was the subject of movie American was the subject of movie American Splender he wrote a graphic novel about Splender he wrote a graphic novel about Splender he wrote a graphic novel about me in 2006 called Eon huus which goes me in 2006 called Eon huus which goes me in 2006 called Eon huus which goes for like $150 on on eBay it's not worth for like $150 on on eBay it's not worth for like $150 on on eBay it's not worth it just download it and I met it just download it and I met it just download it and I met Harvey because I wrote this screenplay Harvey because I wrote this screenplay Harvey because I wrote this screenplay about this band from the 80s called about this band from the 80s called about this band from the 80s called rubber Rodeo it's a real band and the rubber Rodeo it's a real band and the rubber Rodeo it's a real band and the keyboardist Gary Lee who passed away keyboardist Gary Lee who passed away keyboardist Gary Lee who passed away rest in peace Gary introduced me to rest in peace Gary introduced me to rest in peace Gary introduced me to Harvey cuz he did the animation for the Harvey cuz he did the animation for the Harvey cuz he did the animation for the movie and the script's been in my desk movie and the script's been in my desk movie and the script's been in my desk for over 20 years and I realized uh for over 20 years and I realized uh for over 20 years and I realized uh thanks to my buddy Eric jly who has some thanks to my buddy Eric jly who has some thanks to my buddy Eric jly who has some huge success with his Comics I Could huge success with his Comics I Could huge success with his Comics I Could Just Produce this as a graphic novel so Just Produce this as a graphic novel so Just Produce this as a graphic novel so I've got an artist we're getting it I've got an artist we're getting it I've got an artist we're getting it together so I'm going to make it happen together so I'm going to make it happen together so I'm going to make it happen finally and it's some of the best finally and it's some of the best finally and it's some of the best writing I've ever done I'm really proud writing I've ever done I'm really proud writing I've ever done I'm really proud of the story it's kind of ironic reading of the story it's kind of ironic reading of the story it's kind of ironic reading it now because when you're a writer it now because when you're a writer it now because when you're a writer obviously you different books you put obviously you different books you put obviously you different books you put different aspects of yourself into them different aspects of yourself into them different aspects of yourself into them right and this story is very very dark right and this story is very very dark right and this story is very very dark because basically they did all the right because basically they did all the right because basically they did all the right things and they went nowhere right and

things and they went nowhere right and things and they went nowhere right and what I realized was reading it now that what I realized was reading it now that what I realized was reading it now that all these fears I had over 20 years ago all these fears I had over 20 years ago all these fears I had over 20 years ago about what if I'm not going to make it about what if I'm not going to make it about what if I'm not going to make it what if you know I'm doing all the hard what if you know I'm doing all the hard what if you know I'm doing all the hard work and it's still not enough uh now work and it's still not enough uh now work and it's still not enough uh now it's been disproof in because I can at it's been disproof in because I can at it's been disproof in because I can at least pay my rent you feel you like least pay my rent you feel you like least pay my rent you feel you like you've made it so you said you could pay you've made it so you said you could pay you've made it so you said you could pay your rent I feel your rent I feel your rent I feel that to make it is if you can pay your that to make it is if you can pay your that to make it is if you can pay your if you don't have to have a if you don't have to have a if you don't have to have a boss and you know how I really felt like boss and you know how I really felt like boss and you know how I really felt like I made it this is going to sound like a I made it this is going to sound like a I made it this is going to sound like a joke and it's not uh this is being an joke and it's not uh this is being an joke and it's not uh this is being an immigrant I own as you know Margaret immigrant I own as you know Margaret immigrant I own as you know Margaret Thatcher's bookcases yes so to me as an Thatcher's bookcases yes so to me as an Thatcher's bookcases yes so to me as an immigrant to have her bookcases in my immigrant to have her bookcases in my immigrant to have her bookcases in my house I've made it you're right it's not house I've made it you're right it's not house I've made it you're right it's not a joke it's not there's nothing funny a joke it's not there's nothing funny a joke it's not there's nothing funny about it at all not about it at all not about it at all not laughing time to get laughing time to get laughing time to get serious oh nice oh now I'm more serious oh nice oh now I'm more serious oh nice oh now I'm more nervous and nervous and nervous and aroused uh so what else are you thankful aroused uh so what else are you thankful aroused uh so what else are you thankful for so we're both thankful for family for so we're both thankful for family for so we're both thankful for family you I mean I'm the fact that I can still you I mean I'm the fact that I can still you I mean I'm the fact that I can still get it up what's that nothing go ahead I get it up what's that nothing go ahead I get it up what's that nothing go ahead I think as an author to be able to write think as an author to be able to write think as an author to be able to write what you want and have of enough an what you want and have of enough an what you want and have of enough an audience that it covers your audience that it covers your audience that it covers your living that's As Good As It Gets as an living that's As Good As It Gets as an living that's As Good As It Gets as an author author author almost you don't need to be Stephen King almost you don't need to be Stephen King almost you don't need to be Stephen King or some Legend it's like you know or some Legend it's like you know or some Legend it's like you know there's lots of standups who aren't like there's lots of standups who aren't like there's lots of standups who aren't like world famous but they they have world famous but they they have world famous but they they have perfectly good living they do their gig

perfectly good living they do their gig perfectly good living they do their gig they do what they love I I feel very they do what they love I I feel very they do what they love I I feel very very blessed you must be thankful for very blessed you must be thankful for very blessed you must be thankful for your career yeah yeah career-wise but your career yeah yeah career-wise but your career yeah yeah career-wise but like uh I think the best part about it like uh I think the best part about it like uh I think the best part about it is just meeting making friends with is just meeting making friends with is just meeting making friends with people I admire okay quite honestly just people I admire okay quite honestly just people I admire okay quite honestly just friends I you know the people have friends I you know the people have friends I you know the people have gotten to know me I hide from the world gotten to know me I hide from the world gotten to know me I hide from the world sometimes I hit some low points sometimes I hit some low points sometimes I hit some low points especially with this new all the new especially with this new all the new especially with this new all the new experiences and just the people that experiences and just the people that experiences and just the people that have been there for me Haven giving up have been there for me Haven giving up have been there for me Haven giving up on me you know there's days and I'm sure on me you know there's days and I'm sure on me you know there's days and I'm sure you've had this also where like I you've had this also where like I you've had this also where like I literally don't speak to someone the literally don't speak to someone the literally don't speak to someone the whole day and in certain times of my whole day and in certain times of my whole day and in certain times of my life it's really I I remember very life it's really I I remember very life it's really I I remember very vividly I I was in DC in 97 I was an vividly I I was in DC in 97 I was an vividly I I was in DC in 97 I was an intern and that summer uh DC closes down intern and that summer uh DC closes down intern and that summer uh DC closes down on the weekends and I remember those on the weekends and I remember those on the weekends and I remember those weekends when like I got off the phone weekends when like I got off the phone weekends when like I got off the phone with like the third person I knew there with like the third person I knew there with like the third person I knew there was no possibility anyone was going to was no possibility anyone was going to was no possibility anyone was going to call and what that felt like and it was call and what that felt like and it was call and what that felt like and it was dark and it was bad um so I I remember dark and it was bad um so I I remember dark and it was bad um so I I remember that those feelings of loneliness um that those feelings of loneliness um that those feelings of loneliness um like a lot I still feel alone like that like a lot I still feel alone like that like a lot I still feel alone like that sometimes you don't feel you don't feel sometimes you don't feel you don't feel sometimes you don't feel you don't feel alone um not alone um not alone um not anymore what's the what's the reason you anymore what's the what's the reason you anymore what's the what's the reason you think I think I think I because there's like I have a lot of because there's like I have a lot of because there's like I have a lot of people who I care about who care about people who I care about who care about people who I care about who care about me uh I I mean the thing about moving to me uh I I mean the thing about moving to me uh I I mean the thing about moving to Austin is I forgot how lonely New York Austin is I forgot how lonely New York Austin is I forgot how lonely New York got because it was like one after

got because it was like one after got because it was like one after another I lost everybody and a certain another I lost everybody and a certain another I lost everybody and a certain and then you start losing the places you and then you start losing the places you and then you start losing the places you go to and then it was just like holy go to and then it was just like holy go to and then it was just like holy crap I'm very isolated and here in crap I'm very isolated and here in crap I'm very isolated and here in Austin there's not as much to do Austin there's not as much to do Austin there's not as much to do obviously as in New York but there's a obviously as in New York but there's a obviously as in New York but there's a lot of people here more people are lot of people here more people are lot of people here more people are coming all the time um so if I ever want coming all the time um so if I ever want coming all the time um so if I ever want to like hang out with someone to like hang out with someone to like hang out with someone you know I've got a long list um and you know I've got a long list um and you know I've got a long list um and these are people who I've known for a these are people who I've known for a these are people who I've known for a very long time people who know me quite very long time people who know me quite very long time people who know me quite well so I could be myself um my awful well so I could be myself um my awful well so I could be myself um my awful awful awful awful awful self uh and that awful awful awful awful self uh and that awful awful awful awful self uh and that is something I don't take lightly now is something I don't take lightly now is something I don't take lightly now you moved to Texas is going to suceed you moved to Texas is going to suceed you moved to Texas is going to suceed yeah it's just a very uh do you know yeah it's just a very uh do you know yeah it's just a very uh do you know what happened with that no I forget the what happened with that no I forget the what happened with that no I forget the guy's name and it's probably for the guy's name and it's probably for the guy's name and it's probably for the best Monday on Monday a guy in the Texas best Monday on Monday a guy in the Texas best Monday on Monday a guy in the Texas legislature introduces a Bill to have it legislature introduces a Bill to have it legislature introduces a Bill to have it on the referendum to have a referendum on the referendum to have a referendum on the referendum to have a referendum for Texas to declare its independence MH for Texas to declare its independence MH for Texas to declare its independence MH Tuesday I'm on Rogan me and him discuss Tuesday I'm on Rogan me and him discuss Tuesday I'm on Rogan me and him discuss it I give it national attention it was it I give it national attention it was it I give it national attention it was also really funny because a lot of also really funny because a lot of also really funny because a lot of people like these people have been in people like these people have been in people like these people have been in Texas for five minutes BL I go to the Texas for five minutes BL I go to the Texas for five minutes BL I go to the Texas legislature meet with the guy have Texas legislature meet with the guy have Texas legislature meet with the guy have a nice a nice a nice conversation month or two later uh conversation month or two later uh conversation month or two later uh unanimous I think he gets voted kicked unanimous I think he gets voted kicked unanimous I think he gets voted kicked out of Congress because he got didn't out of Congress because he got didn't out of Congress because he got didn't drunk and was inappropriate with her and drunk and was inappropriate with her and drunk and was inappropriate with her and at least it was the girl in this case at least it was the girl in this case at least it was the girl in this case but yeah so it's like um that was my but yeah so it's like um that was my but yeah so it's like um that was my little Texas Independence moment oh it little Texas Independence moment oh it little Texas Independence moment oh it didn't go anywhere it did not go didn't go anywhere it did not go didn't go anywhere it did not go anywhere anywhere anywhere well but it's still part of the uh

well but it's still part of the uh well but it's still part of the uh platform the Texas Republican party yeah platform the Texas Republican party yeah platform the Texas Republican party yeah it's fascinating that history is it's fascinating that history is it's fascinating that history is probably ladened with stories like this probably ladened with stories like this probably ladened with stories like this of failed revolutionaries we celebrate of failed revolutionaries we celebrate of failed revolutionaries we celebrate the heroes but then there's the losers the heroes but then there's the losers the heroes but then there's the losers like myself yeah and we're going to mark that one as a and we're going to mark that one as a failure and edit it failure and edit it failure and edit it out and moving on the thankful yeah out and moving on the thankful yeah out and moving on the thankful yeah friendships right but by the way I want friendships right but by the way I want friendships right but by the way I want to say just to you I'm thankful in this to say just to you I'm thankful in this to say just to you I'm thankful in this lonely moments for people who write lonely moments for people who write lonely moments for people who write books I've been listening to audiobooks books I've been listening to audiobooks books I've been listening to audiobooks a lot and reading a lot I really like a lot and reading a lot I really like a lot and reading a lot I really like audiobooks actually and just audiobooks actually and just audiobooks actually and just like I don't know I can just name random like I don't know I can just name random like I don't know I can just name random person Siri PLO he's a historian I'm person Siri PLO he's a historian I'm person Siri PLO he's a historian I'm reading on the wait I read him what he reading on the wait I read him what he reading on the wait I read him what he what he I just he written a book most what he I just he written a book most what he I just he written a book most recently about the Russia Ukraine war he recently about the Russia Ukraine war he recently about the Russia Ukraine war he wrote another one that I read didn't he wrote another one that I read didn't he wrote another one that I read didn't he write Empires I think the fall of the write Empires I think the fall of the write Empires I think the fall of the Soviet Union something like that yeah Soviet Union something like that yeah Soviet Union something like that yeah yeah yeah it was very very good he's yeah yeah it was very very good he's yeah yeah it was very very good he's great I used him as a resource for the great I used him as a resource for the great I used him as a resource for the white pill he's uh objective while still white pill he's uh objective while still white pill he's uh objective while still having emotion and feeling to it like he having emotion and feeling to it like he having emotion and feeling to it like he has a bias that's fine but without um a has a bias that's fine but without um a has a bias that's fine but without um a lot of times when you write a story that lot of times when you write a story that lot of times when you write a story that involves Putin people are really involves Putin people are really involves Putin people are really ideological they don't really like they ideological they don't really like they ideological they don't really like they don't write with the calmness and the don't write with the calmness and the don't write with the calmness and the clarity and the rigor of History there's clarity and the rigor of History there's clarity and the rigor of History there's emotion in it like there's almost a emotion in it like there's almost a emotion in it like there's almost a virtue signaling yeah and he doesn't virtue signaling yeah and he doesn't virtue signaling yeah and he doesn't have that even though he is Ukrainian

have that even though he is Ukrainian have that even though he is Ukrainian and is very strong opinions on the and is very strong opinions on the and is very strong opinions on the matter anyway there's people like that matter anyway there's people like that matter anyway there's people like that and he's does an incredible job and he's does an incredible job and he's does an incredible job researching a recent event uh like he researching a recent event uh like he researching a recent event uh like he says uh I was looking at everything says uh I was looking at everything says uh I was looking at everything that's been written about the war in that's been written about the war in that's been written about the war in Ukraine and realizing you know the old Ukraine and realizing you know the old Ukraine and realizing you know the old church line that historians are the church line that historians are the church line that historians are the worst ones to write about current events worst ones to write about current events worst ones to write about current events except everybody else and so he's like I except everybody else and so he's like I except everybody else and so he's like I I'll might as well just write about this I'll might as well just write about this I'll might as well just write about this war and he does an exceptional job war and he does an exceptional job war and he does an exceptional job summarizing dayby day the details of summarizing dayby day the details of summarizing dayby day the details of this this war anyway so I'm just this this war anyway so I'm just this this war anyway so I'm just grateful for a guy like grateful for a guy like grateful for a guy like that uh so for me there's I'll name some that uh so for me there's I'll name some that uh so for me there's I'll name some historians I love Arthur Herman Victor historians I love Arthur Herman Victor historians I love Arthur Herman Victor Sebastian is is probably my favorite Sebastian is is probably my favorite Sebastian is is probably my favorite um David petrusa P i e t r u s Za when um David petrusa P i e t r u s Za when um David petrusa P i e t r u s Za when you are a historian and I try to do this you are a historian and I try to do this you are a historian and I try to do this to some degree in the white pill as much to some degree in the white pill as much to some degree in the white pill as much as I could yeah when you as I could yeah when you as I could yeah when you take take take data and you make it read like a data and you make it read like a data and you make it read like a novel this so you're learning about who novel this so you're learning about who novel this so you're learning about who we are as people what had happened but we are as people what had happened but we are as people what had happened but also it's entertaining and readable that also it's entertaining and readable that also it's entertaining and readable that to me is like the Acme of writing and I to me is like the Acme of writing and I to me is like the Acme of writing and I have so much admiration what does Acme have so much admiration what does Acme have so much admiration what does Acme mean top okay Zenith Zenith okay um this mean top okay Zenith Zenith okay um this mean top okay Zenith Zenith okay um this is what writers do they just come up is what writers do they just come up is what writers do they just come up with these incredibly sophisticated with these incredibly sophisticated with these incredibly sophisticated words I'm impressed well AC you could words I'm impressed well AC you could words I'm impressed well AC you could have just said the best of writing Acme have just said the best of writing Acme have just said the best of writing Acme is also the company in Like Bugs Bunny is also the company in Like Bugs Bunny is also the company in Like Bugs Bunny and Wy coyote it's always Acme St you and Wy coyote it's always Acme St you and Wy coyote it's always Acme St you know Acme yeah yeah like Acme bombs um

know Acme yeah yeah like Acme bombs um know Acme yeah yeah like Acme bombs um when they are that good it's it's just when they are that good it's it's just when they are that good it's it's just it just I it leaves me in awe it's just it just I it leaves me in awe it's just it just I it leaves me in awe it's just Ron chernow is another one who he wrote Ron chernow is another one who he wrote Ron chernow is another one who he wrote The Hamilton B graphy oh The Hamilton B graphy oh The Hamilton B graphy oh nice well I I have a lot of favorite nice well I I have a lot of favorite nice well I I have a lot of favorite historians about the historians about the historians about the whole uh time period of World War II whole uh time period of World War II whole uh time period of World War II will Shire people that lived during it will Shire people that lived during it will Shire people that lived during it especially I really like those accounts especially I really like those accounts especially I really like those accounts obviously soier nson is he's not a obviously soier nson is he's not a obviously soier nson is he's not a historian but his accounts are sure historian but his accounts are sure historian but his accounts are sure fascinating you actually how how much do fascinating you actually how how much do fascinating you actually how how much do you talk about Soul nson ever not much you talk about Soul nson ever not much you talk about Soul nson ever not much right why not I feel like I wanted to right why not I feel like I wanted to right why not I feel like I wanted to I I there's nothing I could add to I I there's nothing I could add to I I there's nothing I could add to him he did he is the Michael mice of the him he did he is the Michael mice of the him he did he is the Michael mice of the previous previous previous Century no he's talented charismatic and Century no he's talented charismatic and Century no he's talented charismatic and and skilled so he's not the Michael and skilled so he's not the Michael and skilled so he's not the Michael malice uh yeah I I did not um I feel malice uh yeah I I did not um I feel malice uh yeah I I did not um I feel like I didn't I I didn't read Gulag like I didn't I I didn't read Gulag like I didn't I I didn't read Gulag archipelago for the white pill I didn't archipelago for the white pill I didn't archipelago for the white pill I didn't I didn't no I feel I got a lot of it I didn't no I feel I got a lot of it I didn't no I feel I got a lot of it from an Apple bam who's a very from an Apple bam who's a very from an Apple bam who's a very controversial figure her history books controversial figure her history books controversial figure her history books on the Soviet Union I think are superb on the Soviet Union I think are superb on the Soviet Union I think are superb but she's also accused of being very but she's also accused of being very but she's also accused of being very much like a neocon and being a warmonger much like a neocon and being a warmonger much like a neocon and being a warmonger in contemporary times oh I see and I in contemporary times oh I see and I in contemporary times oh I see and I think comparisons between Putin and think comparisons between Putin and think comparisons between Putin and Stalin although there is a van diagram I Stalin although there is a van diagram I Stalin although there is a van diagram I I think are a bit much because I I think I think are a bit much because I I think I think are a bit much because I I think it's very hard to claim that you know if it's very hard to claim that you know if it's very hard to claim that you know if Putin conquered Ukraine that there would Putin conquered Ukraine that there would Putin conquered Ukraine that there would be a genocide yeah I don't think I think

be a genocide yeah I don't think I think be a genocide yeah I don't think I think that's a very hard argument to make in that's a very hard argument to make in that's a very hard argument to make in these tense times even the comparisons these tense times even the comparisons these tense times even the comparisons of what's going on in Israel on either of what's going on in Israel on either of what's going on in Israel on either side comparisons to Holocaust are also side comparisons to Holocaust are also side comparisons to Holocaust are also troubling in this way yes and and I also troubling in this way yes and and I also troubling in this way yes and and I also don't like how that turn you know I got don't like how that turn you know I got don't like how that turn you know I got in trouble there was some literal demon in trouble there was some literal demon in trouble there was some literal demon who works at the Atlantic and as opposed who works at the Atlantic and as opposed who works at the Atlantic and as opposed to a regular demon as opposed to a to a regular demon as opposed to a to a regular demon as opposed to a figurative demon I didn't know they figurative demon I didn't know they figurative demon I didn't know they employed demons that's they exclusively employed demons that's they exclusively employed demons that's they exclusively employed demons at the Atlantic and he employed demons at the Atlantic and he employed demons at the Atlantic and he was giving me crap this a couple years was giving me crap this a couple years was giving me crap this a couple years ago on Twitter because I didn't think ago on Twitter because I didn't think ago on Twitter because I didn't think it's appropriate to refer to George it's appropriate to refer to George it's appropriate to refer to George Soros as a holocaust Survivor Soros as a holocaust Survivor Soros as a holocaust Survivor and I'm like listen if you want to put and I'm like listen if you want to put and I'm like listen if you want to put him in the same context as an Frank him in the same context as an Frank him in the same context as an Frank knock yourself out but I think that's so knock yourself out but I think that's so knock yourself out but I think that's so completely completely completely disingenuous and and frankly repulsive disingenuous and and frankly repulsive disingenuous and and frankly repulsive to me morally to equivocate between to me morally to equivocate between to me morally to equivocate between figures like that um and also to claim figures like that um and also to claim figures like that um and also to claim that anyone who is a billionaire who is that anyone who is a billionaire who is that anyone who is a billionaire who is including Elon including Sheldon Aden including Elon including Sheldon Aden including Elon including Sheldon Aden there's no shortage of these people if there's no shortage of these people if there's no shortage of these people if you want to use your extreme wealth use you want to use your extreme wealth use you want to use your extreme wealth use to influence politics you have to be up to influence politics you have to be up to influence politics you have to be up for criticism and and to protect people for criticism and and to protect people for criticism and and to protect people Bill Gates to protecting these people Bill Gates to protecting these people Bill Gates to protecting these people from criticism just on the basis of from criticism just on the basis of from criticism just on the basis of their identity is is derang to me but their identity is is derang to me but their identity is is derang to me but also the also the also the Holocaust as a Holocaust as a Holocaust as a historical event and the atrocities historical event and the atrocities historical event and the atrocities within it are just singular in history within it are just singular in history within it are just singular in history and so comparing them what's the utility

and so comparing them what's the utility and so comparing them what's the utility right you're just you're just basically right you're just you're just basically right you're just you're just basically trying to take this brand I'm using that trying to take this brand I'm using that trying to take this brand I'm using that term you know in a very specific way and term you know in a very specific way and term you know in a very specific way and latch like when they say climate denal latch like when they say climate denal latch like when they say climate denal no one's denying climate exists so no one's denying climate exists so no one's denying climate exists so you're just trying to go off of you're just trying to go off of you're just trying to go off of Holocaust denial I think it's Shameless Holocaust denial I think it's Shameless Holocaust denial I think it's Shameless and I think it's it's it's gross and it and I think it's it's it's gross and it and I think it's it's it's gross and it cheapens everything because there's deep cheapens everything because there's deep cheapens everything because there's deep important lessons about the Holocaust important lessons about the Holocaust important lessons about the Holocaust yes to me the lessons are yes to me the lessons are yes to me the lessons are about how extreme it can get and how about how extreme it can get and how about how extreme it can get and how fast yeah and how fast that's the one so fast yeah and how fast that's the one so fast yeah and how fast that's the one so you know people ask oh are humans you know people ask oh are humans you know people ask oh are humans basically good are they basically evil I basically good are they basically evil I basically good are they basically evil I always say they're basically animal always say they're basically animal always say they're basically animal and I think people are most people are and I think people are most people are and I think people are most people are almost fundamentally deranged and that almost fundamentally deranged and that almost fundamentally deranged and that there's basically this veneer of there's basically this veneer of there's basically this veneer of civilization and decency and when shit civilization and decency and when shit civilization and decency and when shit hits the fan and we see this over and hits the fan and we see this over and hits the fan and we see this over and over they do things that would have been over they do things that would have been over they do things that would have been completely Unthinkable even to completely Unthinkable even to completely Unthinkable even to themselves 5 years themselves 5 years themselves 5 years ago most people are fundamentally ago most people are fundamentally ago most people are fundamentally deranged with a veneer of Civility deranged with a veneer of Civility deranged with a veneer of Civility there's a show called um I think I there's a show called um I think I there's a show called um I think I disagree with that what's the show disagree with that what's the show disagree with that what's the show called I'm having Alzheimer's cuz of the called I'm having Alzheimer's cuz of the called I'm having Alzheimer's cuz of the advanced AG age the skin there's there's advanced AG age the skin there's there's advanced AG age the skin there's there's a show called I think you should leave a show called I think you should leave a show called I think you should leave it's a sketch you should leave okay it's a sketch you should leave okay it's a sketch you should leave okay sorry it's a sketch comedy show and he sorry it's a sketch comedy show and he sorry it's a sketch comedy show and he captures these great how's your hair captures these great how's your hair captures these great how's your hair princess he captures these great princess he captures these great princess he captures these great moments of just the like just the very moments of just the like just the very moments of just the like just the very thin veneer of normaly and just the

thin veneer of normaly and just the thin veneer of normaly and just the craziness that's so frequently lurking craziness that's so frequently lurking craziness that's so frequently lurking underneath another great example of this underneath another great example of this underneath another great example of this when this is dealing with people who are when this is dealing with people who are when this is dealing with people who are literally crazy every you ever seen the literally crazy every you ever seen the literally crazy every you ever seen the show hoarders so every episode of show hoarders so every episode of show hoarders so every episode of Hoarders every there's two usually two Hoarders every there's two usually two Hoarders every there's two usually two people in every episode but every people in every episode but every people in every episode but every episode has the same plot line veneer of episode has the same plot line veneer of episode has the same plot line veneer of normaly veneer of normaly veneer of normaly veneer of normaly veneer of normaly veneer of normaly veneer of normaly slight expression of concern for normaly slight expression of concern for normaly slight expression of concern for blond arangement and it always follows blond arangement and it always follows blond arangement and it always follows that exact that exact that exact pattern yeah I don't know I think the pattern yeah I don't know I think the pattern yeah I don't know I think the deep ocean of the human mind deep ocean of the human mind deep ocean of the human mind is is good like there's a longing to be is is good like there's a longing to be is is good like there's a longing to be good to others I have seen literally no good to others I have seen literally no good to others I have seen literally no evidence of this and I know everything's evidence of this and I know everything's evidence of this and I know everything's the deep ocean with you people but like the deep ocean with you people but like the deep ocean with you people but like what do you mean you people Pirates oh I what do you mean you people Pirates oh I what do you mean you people Pirates oh I don't see it you you what's that Mr don't see it you you what's that Mr don't see it you you what's that Mr parrot you an parrot you an parrot you an anti-semite no that's not nice to say in anti-semite no that's not nice to say in anti-semite no that's not nice to say in front of such a large audience you're front of such a large audience you're front of such a large audience you're embarrassing me Mr parrot Lex you Mr per embarrassing me Mr parrot Lex you Mr per embarrassing me Mr parrot Lex you Mr per you you have he's he's a run-of-the-mill you you have he's he's a run-of-the-mill you you have he's he's a run-of-the-mill troll and barely an intellectual that's troll and barely an intellectual that's troll and barely an intellectual that's not nice to say that's not true we not nice to say that's not true we not nice to say that's not true we talked about this you have to see the talked about this you have to see the talked about this you have to see the good in people you have seen personally good in people you have seen personally good in people you have seen personally Y how quickly and easily it is for human Y how quickly and easily it is for human Y how quickly and easily it is for human beings to form out groups yeah and to beings to form out groups yeah and to beings to form out groups yeah and to just read others just as I just did a just read others just as I just did a just read others just as I just did a minute ago with the Atlantic completely minute ago with the Atlantic completely minute ago with the Atlantic completely out of the human race and that happens out of the human race and that happens out of the human race and that happens constantly and very easily humans are

constantly and very easily humans are constantly and very easily humans are tribal beings so that does not I don't tribal beings so that does not I don't tribal beings so that does not I don't see how that's compatible with this see how that's compatible with this see how that's compatible with this essential desire to do good no I I think essential desire to do good no I I think essential desire to do good no I I think it's like in 1984 the two minutes of it's like in 1984 the two minutes of it's like in 1984 the two minutes of hate there is a part of humans that hate there is a part of humans that hate there is a part of humans that wants to be tribal yeah and wants to wants to be tribal yeah and wants to wants to be tribal yeah and wants to direct get angry and hateful and then direct get angry and hateful and then direct get angry and hateful and then that hate is easy to direct yes by that hate is easy to direct yes by that hate is easy to direct yes by especially people as you uh as an especially people as you uh as an especially people as you uh as an anarchist talk about there people in anarchist talk about there people in anarchist talk about there people in power that can direct that anger but I power that can direct that anger but I power that can direct that anger but I think if you just look at recent human think if you just look at recent human think if you just look at recent human history the desire for good the communal history the desire for good the communal history the desire for good the communal desire for good outweighs that I think desire for good outweighs that I think desire for good outweighs that I think like most of life on Earth right now like most of life on Earth right now like most of life on Earth right now people are being good to each other in people are being good to each other in people are being good to each other in in the in the in the most fundamental sense relative to how most fundamental sense relative to how most fundamental sense relative to how nature usually works I okay I think nature usually works I okay I think nature usually works I okay I think you're both wrong about people and about you're both wrong about people and about you're both wrong about people and about nature so nature is not nature so nature is not nature so nature is not inherently violent in the sense like for inherently violent in the sense like for inherently violent in the sense like for example if anyone has an aquarium or if example if anyone has an aquarium or if example if anyone has an aquarium or if you look at Wildlife yeah you're going you look at Wildlife yeah you're going you look at Wildlife yeah you're going to have Predator prey but these animals to have Predator prey but these animals to have Predator prey but these animals are going to be coexisting and they're are going to be coexisting and they're are going to be coexisting and they're going to be ignoring each other for the going to be ignoring each other for the going to be ignoring each other for the most part right and as for humans you most part right and as for humans you most part right and as for humans you know being essentially good I think know being essentially good I think know being essentially good I think humans are essentially not to each other humans are essentially not to each other humans are essentially not to each other you said I think they're essentially you said I think they're essentially you said I think they're essentially civil and amiable but that's not really civil and amiable but that's not really civil and amiable but that's not really being good good I think is a thing that being good good I think is a thing that being good good I think is a thing that gets Illustrated when you're challenged gets Illustrated when you're challenged gets Illustrated when you're challenged when there's difficult situations I mean when there's difficult situations I mean when there's difficult situations I mean civility is a good starting point and civility is a good starting point and civility is a good starting point and then when there's a big challenge that

then when there's a big challenge that then when there's a big challenge that comes people step up on average comes people step up on average comes people step up on average I completely agree with you that human I completely agree with you that human I completely agree with you that human beings are capable of such profound beings are capable of such profound beings are capable of such profound goodness that it kind of makes goodness that it kind of makes goodness that it kind of makes you extremely emotional and I I you extremely emotional and I I you extremely emotional and I I certainly think that that's true but I certainly think that that's true but I certainly think that that's true but I think that that's more unusual than it think that that's more unusual than it think that that's more unusual than it is the norm I see beauty everywhere so is the norm I see beauty everywhere so is the norm I see beauty everywhere so do I but that doesn't mean it's in every do I but that doesn't mean it's in every do I but that doesn't mean it's in every person not in every person but in most person not in every person but in most person not in every person but in most people I think I mean I wish there was a people I think I mean I wish there was a people I think I mean I wish there was a really good way to measure this my really good way to measure this my really good way to measure this my general sense of the world is just general sense of the world is just general sense of the world is just there's so much incredible both in terms there's so much incredible both in terms there's so much incredible both in terms of economics in terms of Art in terms of of economics in terms of Art in terms of of economics in terms of Art in terms of just creation as as a whole that's just creation as as a whole that's just creation as as a whole that's happened over the past Century happened over the past Century happened over the past Century that it feels like the good is outp that it feels like the good is outp that it feels like the good is outp powering the bad you just did the powering the bad you just did the powering the bad you just did the perfect segue mhm to the perfect segue mhm to the perfect segue mhm to the Box what's in the box so is it your Box what's in the box so is it your Box what's in the box so is it your fragile egoo that's my you stole my joke fragile egoo that's my you stole my joke fragile egoo that's my you stole my joke you stole my joke that was the joke I you stole my joke that was the joke I you stole my joke that was the joke I made at you before we recorded you stole made at you before we recorded you stole made at you before we recorded you stole my joke no did I I write all your my joke no did I I write all your my joke no did I I write all your material you material you material you hack so as you know I have a lot of hack so as you know I have a lot of hack so as you know I have a lot of beautiful stuff in my house because I beautiful stuff in my house because I beautiful stuff in my house because I think it's something very important think it's something very important think it's something very important everyone listening if you accomplish everyone listening if you accomplish everyone listening if you accomplish something that is great some something that is great some something that is great some achievement what I like to do is buy achievement what I like to do is buy achievement what I like to do is buy myself something to remember that moment myself something to remember that moment myself something to remember that moment cuz sometimes when it's hard you forget

cuz sometimes when it's hard you forget cuz sometimes when it's hard you forget you've done great things in your life you've done great things in your life you've done great things in your life you've had accomplishments doesn't have you've had accomplishments doesn't have you've had accomplishments doesn't have to be some amazing Factory it could just to be some amazing Factory it could just to be some amazing Factory it could just be like my first job or I got a raise or be like my first job or I got a raise or be like my first job or I got a raise or you know what I you know what I you know what I I I I anything anything anything so there's this amazing so there's this amazing so there's this amazing sculptor named Jake Michael singer sculptor named Jake Michael singer sculptor named Jake Michael singer singer who's a singer who's a singer who's a sculptor and I saw a piece of his how's sculptor and I saw a piece of his how's sculptor and I saw a piece of his how's his singing his singing his singing voice this this joke's not I hold on I voice this this joke's not I hold on I voice this this joke's not I hold on I can go somewhere with this how is this can go somewhere with this how is this can go somewhere with this how is this singing voice do you want me to write singing voice do you want me to write singing voice do you want me to write your joke for you yeah what's the your joke for you yeah what's the your joke for you yeah what's the punchline um punchline um punchline um hard there it is that's that's what she hard there it is that's that's what she hard there it is that's that's what she said so I followed him on Instagram he said so I followed him on Instagram he said so I followed him on Instagram he followed me back MH and he's like if I followed me back MH and he's like if I followed me back MH and he's like if I made he say what's the point of being an made he say what's the point of being an made he say what's the point of being an artist if the work I create isn't in the artist if the work I create isn't in the artist if the work I create isn't in the spaces of people I like and admire he a spaces of people I like and admire he a spaces of people I like and admire he a big fan of yours you've given him and big fan of yours you've given him and big fan of yours you've given him and our episodes together give him Joy so he our episodes together give him Joy so he our episodes together give him Joy so he said if I get a SC make Lex a sculpture said if I get a SC make Lex a sculpture said if I get a SC make Lex a sculpture will he put on the shelf behind him and will he put on the shelf behind him and will he put on the shelf behind him and what that reminded me of is when I was a what that reminded me of is when I was a what that reminded me of is when I was a kid uh you read Batman comics and kid uh you read Batman comics and kid uh you read Batman comics and there's the Batcave and the Batcave has there's the Batcave and the Batcave has there's the Batcave and the Batcave has all this cool stuff in it I didn't all this cool stuff in it I didn't all this cool stuff in it I didn't realize until much later that all of realize until much later that all of realize until much later that all of those things in the Batcave had an those things in the Batcave had an those things in the Batcave had an origin story so the giant Penny the origin story so the giant Penny the origin story so the giant Penny the dinosaur there was actually a story dinosaur there was actually a story dinosaur there was actually a story where that came from so if you're fan of

where that came from so if you're fan of where that came from so if you're fan of a show you can spot oh this is when this a show you can spot oh this is when this a show you can spot oh this is when this appeared this is when that appeared this appeared this is when that appeared this appeared this is when that appeared this when that appeared so he made you this when that appeared so he made you this when that appeared so he made you this sculpture uh he lives in Turkey um and sculpture uh he lives in Turkey um and sculpture uh he lives in Turkey um and it's called chance it's called chance it's called chance murmur and it is I haven't even seen it murmur and it is I haven't even seen it murmur and it is I haven't even seen it yet it is absolutely beautiful all right yet it is absolutely beautiful all right yet it is absolutely beautiful all right this so you want to do a little unboxing this so you want to do a little unboxing this so you want to do a little unboxing yes okay uh axe yes okay uh axe yes okay uh axe or body spray all right let that's on spray all right let that's on I'm so I'm so I'm so excited he lik ins out the excited he lik ins out the excited he lik ins out the box you know uh that Steven Seagal movie box you know uh that Steven Seagal movie box you know uh that Steven Seagal movie where there's like a stripper that comes where there's like a stripper that comes where there's like a stripper that comes out of the box is that uh under sieg out of the box is that uh under sieg out of the box is that uh under sieg he's on a he's on a he's on a boat you're not an action film guy no no one what does the pirate say when he one what does the pirate say when he one what does the pirate say when he turns turns turns 80 what i m i m i oh oh see that's how I know you don't oh oh see that's how I know you don't oh oh see that's how I know you don't like humor I just don't like Pirates like humor I just don't like Pirates like humor I just don't like Pirates well your mom does do you play any well your mom does do you play any well your mom does do you play any musical instruments musical instruments musical instruments no neither do you I've seen your guitar no neither do you I've seen your guitar no neither do you I've seen your guitar videos videos videos okay here's a big piece of wood for you okay here's a big piece of wood for you okay here's a big piece of wood for you that's what it feels like just so you that's what it feels like just so you that's what it feels like just so you know oh know oh know oh wow

oh my oh my God this traveled across the world so here's why his work speaks so world so here's why his work speaks so much to me so first of all he's much to me so first of all he's much to me so first of all he's combining so many different combining so many different combining so many different references it's Nike the goddess of references it's Nike the goddess of references it's Nike the goddess of Victory right it's that it looks like an Victory right it's that it looks like an Victory right it's that it looks like an angel as well um the Italian futurist angel as well um the Italian futurist angel as well um the Italian futurist Which is my favorite art movement from Which is my favorite art movement from Which is my favorite art movement from the early 20th century they tried to the early 20th century they tried to the early 20th century they tried to capture Motion in 2D or 3D form well capture Motion in 2D or 3D form well capture Motion in 2D or 3D form well Jake thank Jake thank Jake thank you thank you thank you thank you for you thank you thank you thank you for you thank you thank you thank you for creating beautiful things thank you for creating beautiful things thank you for creating beautiful things thank you for caring about somebody like me and caring about somebody like me and caring about somebody like me and somebody like Michael who really feel somebody like Michael who really feel somebody like Michael who really feel the love that's the other thing when you the love that's the other thing when you the love that's the other thing when you have something that matters to you in have something that matters to you in have something that matters to you in your house and you're having a bad day your house and you're having a bad day your house and you're having a bad day you can look at it and remember you know you can look at it and remember you know you can look at it and remember you know what I mean that Spirit of joy what I mean that Spirit of joy what I mean that Spirit of joy and I actually have a list here okay I and I actually have a list here okay I and I actually have a list here okay I got a little rant ready you want to hear got a little rant ready you want to hear got a little rant ready you want to hear my rant yeah let's go one of the things my rant yeah let's go one of the things my rant yeah let's go one of the things that drives me that drives me that drives me crazy is when people especially crazy is when people especially crazy is when people especially conservatives think that all conservatives think that all conservatives think that all Contemporary Art is ugly or abstract or Contemporary Art is ugly or abstract or Contemporary Art is ugly or abstract or like literally garbage and there's a lot like literally garbage and there's a lot like literally garbage and there's a lot of that but so much of the stuff out of that but so much of the stuff out of that but so much of the stuff out there in galleries is not only not crazy there in galleries is not only not crazy there in galleries is not only not crazy expensive but they're trying to sell expensive but they're trying to sell expensive but they're trying to sell things for people in their house and things for people in their house and things for people in their house and these are young artists you know they're these are young artists you know they're these are young artists you know they're trying to add Beauty I have a list so if trying to add Beauty I have a list so if trying to add Beauty I have a list so if you don't believe me and you think all

you don't believe me and you think all you don't believe me and you think all Contemporary Art is garbage or terrible Contemporary Art is garbage or terrible Contemporary Art is garbage or terrible go to the website or any of these places go to the website or any of these places go to the website or any of these places that I'm going to Rattle off look that I'm going to Rattle off look that I'm going to Rattle off look through them and you're telling me that through them and you're telling me that through them and you're telling me that that it's not about creating Beauty and that it's not about creating Beauty and that it's not about creating Beauty and joy and things in people's lives so I joy and things in people's lives so I joy and things in people's lives so I don't have any relationship with any of don't have any relationship with any of don't have any relationship with any of these people these are just some these people these are just some these people these are just some galleries I follow on Instagram utre galleries I follow on Instagram utre galleries I follow on Instagram utre Gallery antler Gallery giant robot 2 Gallery antler Gallery giant robot 2 Gallery antler Gallery giant robot 2 binart I don't know how to pronounce I'm binart I don't know how to pronounce I'm binart I don't know how to pronounce I'm sorry b a b i n a r t spoke Art Gallery sorry b a b i n a r t spoke Art Gallery sorry b a b i n a r t spoke Art Gallery VAR gall in Milwaukee I was there the VAR gall in Milwaukee I was there the VAR gall in Milwaukee I was there the pieces were not expensive at all what pieces were not expensive at all what pieces were not expensive at all what kind of art are we talking about kind of art are we talking about kind of art are we talking about everything mostly paintings mostly everything mostly paintings mostly everything mostly paintings mostly paintings some sculptures too like this paintings some sculptures too like this paintings some sculptures too like this Cory hord is my favorite one in La Night Cory hord is my favorite one in La Night Cory hord is my favorite one in La Night Gallery vertical Gallery Avant Gallery Gallery vertical Gallery Avant Gallery Gallery vertical Gallery Avant Gallery Hive Gallery Haven gallery and curio Art Hive Gallery Haven gallery and curio Art Hive Gallery Haven gallery and curio Art Gallery I'm telling you uh it's not Gallery I'm telling you uh it's not Gallery I'm telling you uh it's not exorbitant this is not the kind of thing exorbitant this is not the kind of thing exorbitant this is not the kind of thing where you have to go to Museum and be where you have to go to Museum and be where you have to go to Museum and be like this doesn't make sense to me you like this doesn't make sense to me you like this doesn't make sense to me you look at it right away you're like okay I look at it right away you're like okay I look at it right away you're like okay I know what this is and it's beautiful know what this is and it's beautiful know what this is and it's beautiful it's awesome um and you're supporting it's awesome um and you're supporting it's awesome um and you're supporting someone who's young and creative trying someone who's young and creative trying someone who's young and creative trying to do something and make the world a to do something and make the world a to do something and make the world a better place so I'm a big fan of the better place so I'm a big fan of the better place so I'm a big fan of the Contemporary Art scene a lot of it is Contemporary Art scene a lot of it is Contemporary Art scene a lot of it is not great but even the stuff that's not not great but even the stuff that's not not great but even the stuff that's not great is very rarely disgusting or gross great is very rarely disgusting or gross great is very rarely disgusting or gross it's just like okay I've seen this it's just like okay I've seen this it's just like okay I've seen this before something like that okay there's before something like that okay there's before something like that okay there's it's like differ between there's like a it's like differ between there's like a it's like differ between there's like a standup where like I'll pay money for standup where like I'll pay money for standup where like I'll pay money for the ticket and someone's like who's an the ticket and someone's like who's an the ticket and someone's like who's an opener it's like I wouldn't pay to see opener it's like I wouldn't pay to see opener it's like I wouldn't pay to see him perform but he sure still made me him perform but he sure still made me him perform but he sure still made me laugh that person is still more more by laugh that person is still more more by laugh that person is still more more by far more good than bad so a lot of this far more good than bad so a lot of this far more good than bad so a lot of this artist and stuff I would own but it's artist and stuff I would own but it's artist and stuff I would own but it's like okay I get it I like it well as the

like okay I get it I like it well as the like okay I get it I like it well as the analogy goes I I really like going to analogy goes I I really like going to analogy goes I I really like going to open mics actually because like fun it open mics actually because like fun it open mics actually because like fun it sounds absurd to say but funny isn't the sounds absurd to say but funny isn't the sounds absurd to say but funny isn't the only thing that's beautiful about only thing that's beautiful about only thing that's beautiful about standup comedy it's the act standup comedy it's the act standup comedy it's the act the the it's it's going for it it's the the it's it's going for it it's the the it's it's going for it it's trying to be funny it's taking the leap trying to be funny it's taking the leap trying to be funny it's taking the leap trying the joke and some of the best trying the joke and some of the best trying the joke and some of the best stuff is actually funny but the audience stuff is actually funny but the audience stuff is actually funny but the audience is like three people two of whom are is like three people two of whom are is like three people two of whom are drunk and bored and you're still going drunk and bored and you're still going drunk and bored and you're still going for it and that's like that's the human for it and that's like that's the human for it and that's like that's the human Spirit right there Roseanne was telling Spirit right there Roseanne was telling Spirit right there Roseanne was telling me how Gilbert godfre would go on it was me how Gilbert godfre would go on it was me how Gilbert godfre would go on it was like 3 in the morning and it was like like 3 in the morning and it was like like 3 in the morning and it was like five her and like three other comics in five her and like three other comics in five her and like three other comics in the audience and like they all were just the audience and like they all were just the audience and like they all were just dying like he was just killing them dying like he was just killing them dying like he was just killing them who's your favorite who's your favorite who's your favorite comedian um Dave Smith who comedian um Dave Smith who comedian um Dave Smith who and cut scene favorite comedian first on and cut scene favorite comedian first on and cut scene favorite comedian first on Norman McDonald if you like put a gun to Norman McDonald if you like put a gun to Norman McDonald if you like put a gun to my head and I had to answer really my head and I had to answer really my head and I had to answer really quickly that would be him quickly that would be him quickly that would be him okay I would also say uh Louis CK oh wow okay I would also say uh Louis CK oh wow okay I would also say uh Louis CK oh wow yeah oh my God but that's almost like a yeah oh my God but that's almost like a yeah oh my God but that's almost like a vanilla answer at this moment in in vanilla answer at this moment in in vanilla answer at this moment in in history because it's like uh Louis CK is history because it's like uh Louis CK is history because it's like uh Louis CK is pretty radioactive he is well yeah he pretty radioactive he is well yeah he pretty radioactive he is well yeah he does it the tough topics sure the best does it the tough topics sure the best does it the tough topics sure the best Mitch hadberg the wit of a good oneliner Mitch hadberg the wit of a good oneliner Mitch hadberg the wit of a good oneliner was great I guess that's what nor was great I guess that's what nor was great I guess that's what nor McDonald was a genius at what about you

McDonald was a genius at what about you McDonald was a genius at what about you there's a I mean we're so fortunate to there's a I mean we're so fortunate to there's a I mean we're so fortunate to be here in Austin because that comedy be here in Austin because that comedy be here in Austin because that comedy Mothership you go there and like people Mothership you go there and like people Mothership you go there and like people are just killing it David Lucas is are just killing it David Lucas is are just killing it David Lucas is amazing tyraa Ty rera probably did the amazing tyraa Ty rera probably did the amazing tyraa Ty rera probably did the best set I've seen since I've been here best set I've seen since I've been here best set I've seen since I've been here in Austin and I I watched him and I'm in Austin and I I watched him and I'm in Austin and I I watched him and I'm like this guy's even like even bitcher like this guy's even like even bitcher like this guy's even like even bitcher than I am so I reached out to him um so than I am so I reached out to him um so than I am so I reached out to him um so he's just terrific he's just terrific he's just terrific David Lucas is another one A buddy of David Lucas is another one A buddy of David Lucas is another one A buddy of mine um you just said it twice I think mine um you just said it twice I think mine um you just said it twice I think um I'm thinking Dave landow excuse me um I'm thinking Dave landow excuse me um I'm thinking Dave landow excuse me Dave landow um Joe ma catching up it's Dave landow um Joe ma catching up it's Dave landow um Joe ma catching up it's true though it's true it's true it's true though it's true it's true it's true though it's true it's true it's true Dave true Dave true Dave Lucas you ever been to the comedy Lucas you ever been to the comedy Lucas you ever been to the comedy Mothership it's a great it's a great Mothership it's a great it's a great Mothership it's a great it's a great spot where is that is that in Austin spot where is that is that in Austin spot where is that is that in Austin Austin is that where Willie Nelson is Austin is that where Willie Nelson is Austin is that where Willie Nelson is from I haven't really go ahead I'm oh I from I haven't really go ahead I'm oh I from I haven't really go ahead I'm oh I heard a joke about that uh the other heard a joke about that uh the other heard a joke about that uh the other week tell the tell the joke again week tell the tell the joke again week tell the tell the joke again what's the only thing worse than giving what's the only thing worse than giving what's the only thing worse than giving head to Willie head to Willie head to Willie Nelson what if he says I'm not Willie Nelson what if he says I'm not Willie Nelson what if he says I'm not Willie Nelson what's that Mr parrot I know he's Nelson what's that Mr parrot I know he's Nelson what's that Mr parrot I know he's not funny he's better he's he thinks not funny he's better he's he thinks not funny he's better he's he thinks he's better on Twitter but that's not he's better on Twitter but that's not he's better on Twitter but that's not nice to say right in front of his nice to say right in front of his nice to say right in front of his face just think how he face just think how he face just think how he feels the statue's chance murmur is feels the statue's chance murmur is feels the statue's chance murmur is judging you chance it's called chance judging you chance it's called chance judging you chance it's called chance murmur chance M God that's so beautiful murmur chance M God that's so beautiful murmur chance M God that's so beautiful that's gorgeous this is this another that's gorgeous this is this another that's gorgeous this is this another reason I hate cynicism and I talk about reason I hate cynicism and I talk about reason I hate cynicism and I talk about this a lot even just on Etsy there's so

this a lot even just on Etsy there's so this a lot even just on Etsy there's so many small not huge companies like many small not huge companies like many small not huge companies like individual Artisans who are creating individual Artisans who are creating individual Artisans who are creating great stuff um and just making it happen great stuff um and just making it happen great stuff um and just making it happen and it's really sad for me where people and it's really sad for me where people and it's really sad for me where people can't see that or if they're like well can't see that or if they're like well can't see that or if they're like well how could I be excited about a sculpture how could I be excited about a sculpture how could I be excited about a sculpture when blah blah blah the Middle East and when blah blah blah the Middle East and when blah blah blah the Middle East and it's just like you can always look for it's just like you can always look for it's just like you can always look for an excuse not to look for Joy or you an excuse not to look for Joy or you an excuse not to look for Joy or you could for an excuse to look for Joy yeah could for an excuse to look for Joy yeah could for an excuse to look for Joy yeah that's he's incredible I feel the same that's he's incredible I feel the same that's he's incredible I feel the same way way way about only fans I I can't even get that about only fans I I can't even get that about only fans I I can't even get that out of my mouth before laughing at my out of my mouth before laughing at my out of my mouth before laughing at my own failed joke that's what she said and own failed joke that's what she said and own failed joke that's what she said and it it it oh H all right that might be one of the oh H all right that might be one of the oh H all right that might be one of the first that's what she said from a first that's what she said from a first that's what she said from a Michael malice yeah I'm going to count that I don't know what I'm going to do that I don't know what I'm going to do with mine cuz I got my own mine's 3 feet with mine cuz I got my own mine's 3 feet with mine cuz I got my own mine's 3 feet tall just like me your box was much tall just like me your box was much tall just like me your box was much bigger yeah it was giving me an bigger yeah it was giving me an bigger yeah it was giving me an inferiority complex I think I'm going to inferiority complex I think I'm going to inferiority complex I think I'm going to invade Russia that's a Napoleon Russia that's a Napoleon reference for those in the audience um I reference for those in the audience um I reference for those in the audience um I don't know if I'm GNA I think I'm put in don't know if I'm GNA I think I'm put in don't know if I'm GNA I think I'm put in my bedrooms that's the first thing I see my bedrooms that's the first thing I see my bedrooms that's the first thing I see when I wake up put in the bedroom when I wake up put in the bedroom when I wake up put in the bedroom yeah uh do we get through everything yeah uh do we get through everything yeah uh do we get through everything we're thankful for no I've got lots of we're thankful for no I've got lots of we're thankful for no I've got lots of things I'm thankful for what else things I'm thankful for what else things I'm thankful for what else friends friends friends family we said books I'm thankful for family we said books I'm thankful for family we said books I'm thankful for career I'm thankful for I am career I'm thankful for I am career I'm thankful for I am thankful for and I know people are going thankful for and I know people are going thankful for and I know people are going to lose their minds and I can hear them

to lose their minds and I can hear them to lose their minds and I can hear them flipping out already I am thankful for flipping out already I am thankful for flipping out already I am thankful for social social social media yeah I'm thank for several reasons media yeah I'm thank for several reasons media yeah I'm thank for several reasons first it is a way for people to make first it is a way for people to make first it is a way for people to make connections that they couldn't have made connections that they couldn't have made connections that they couldn't have made in years past that if you got some weird in years past that if you got some weird in years past that if you got some weird hobby you can find that other person's hobby you can find that other person's hobby you can find that other person's weird Hobby and you make that connection weird Hobby and you make that connection weird Hobby and you make that connection it's a great way to stay in touch it's a great way to stay in touch it's a great way to stay in touch permanent Ely for people otherwise you'd permanent Ely for people otherwise you'd permanent Ely for people otherwise you'd lose touch with you know whatever venue lose touch with you know whatever venue lose touch with you know whatever venue and it's also a great way to expose uh and it's also a great way to expose uh and it's also a great way to expose uh corporate depravity when you have these corporate depravity when you have these corporate depravity when you have these organizations that are dishonest I think organizations that are dishonest I think organizations that are dishonest I think the community notes thing on Twitter is the community notes thing on Twitter is the community notes thing on Twitter is the greatest thing ever that's the greatest thing ever that's the greatest thing ever that's incredible I wish they would pay the uh incredible I wish they would pay the uh incredible I wish they would pay the uh attention to the Michael Mouse account attention to the Michael Mouse account attention to the Michael Mouse account more more more often you shouldn't be encouraging often you shouldn't be encouraging often you shouldn't be encouraging anyone to pay attention to my Twitter anyone to pay attention to my Twitter anyone to pay attention to my Twitter account yeah it's a dumpster fire and I account yeah it's a dumpster fire and I account yeah it's a dumpster fire and I and I don't mean Bridget I mean like a and I don't mean Bridget I mean like a and I don't mean Bridget I mean like a literal Bridget fasy Bridget by is literal Bridget fasy Bridget by is literal Bridget fasy Bridget by is amazing but amazing but amazing but account makes yes uh not here I wish she account makes yes uh not here I wish she account makes yes uh not here I wish she did she's ing no I mean in in this where did she's ing no I mean in in this where did she's ing no I mean in in this where we're sitting it's a joke Michael is it we're sitting it's a joke Michael is it we're sitting it's a joke Michael is it yeah but I I'm just really glad about uh yeah but I I'm just really glad about uh yeah but I I'm just really glad about uh it's another way for people who before it's another way for people who before it's another way for people who before would have felt very alone I know it would have felt very alone I know it would have felt very alone I know it makes some people do feel alone but for makes some people do feel alone but for makes some people do feel alone but for other people makes them feel other people makes them feel other people makes them feel connected uh there's been a a lot of connected uh there's been a a lot of connected uh there's been a a lot of talk about anti-Semitism recently yeah talk about anti-Semitism recently yeah talk about anti-Semitism recently yeah what's what's your sense about this is what's what's your sense about this is what's what's your sense about this is there is an an semitism like any other there is an an semitism like any other there is an an semitism like any other brand of hate there's a lot of hate out brand of hate there's a lot of hate out brand of hate there's a lot of hate out there no I don't think it's like any there no I don't think it's like any there no I don't think it's like any other brand of hate because I don't other brand of hate because I don't other brand of hate because I don't think um racists or transphobes or think um racists or transphobes or think um racists or transphobes or homophobes or misogynists or xenophobes

homophobes or misogynists or xenophobes homophobes or misogynists or xenophobes argue openly or even not so openly for argue openly or even not so openly for argue openly or even not so openly for the killing of black Americans the killing of black Americans the killing of black Americans transgender people gay people women or transgender people gay people women or transgender people gay people women or immigrants and it's not only something immigrants and it's not only something immigrants and it's not only something that's talked about it's something that that's talked about it's something that that's talked about it's something that has actually happened and not just the has actually happened and not just the has actually happened and not just the Holocaust but just centuries of pilgrims Holocaust but just centuries of pilgrims Holocaust but just centuries of pilgrims right there's this great book that I right there's this great book that I right there's this great book that I read many years ago called the read many years ago called the read many years ago called the satanizm it and I read it and they live satanizm it and I read it and they live satanizm it and I read it and they live in this this certain specific kind of in this this certain specific kind of in this this certain specific kind of anti-Semitism and I again I'm not anti-Semitism and I again I'm not anti-Semitism and I again I'm not talking about people who are against talking about people who are against talking about people who are against Israel something I'm talking Israel something I'm talking Israel something I'm talking specifically about Jew hatred they have specifically about Jew hatred they have specifically about Jew hatred they have this moral calculus that Jews are the this moral calculus that Jews are the this moral calculus that Jews are the only people who are capable of good or only people who are capable of good or only people who are capable of good or evil and Jews are exclusive abolutely evil and Jews are exclusive abolutely evil and Jews are exclusive abolutely capable of evil and for example if you capable of evil and for example if you capable of evil and for example if you look at the George W bush White House look at the George W bush White House look at the George W bush White House you had W you had chy Kisa rice Colin you had W you had chy Kisa rice Colin you had W you had chy Kisa rice Colin Powell Donald Rumsfeld a lot of these Powell Donald Rumsfeld a lot of these Powell Donald Rumsfeld a lot of these new newon advisers so if there's 10 new newon advisers so if there's 10 new newon advisers so if there's 10 people in a room and there's one Jewish people in a room and there's one Jewish people in a room and there's one Jewish person it's his fault and the rest are person it's his fault and the rest are person it's his fault and the rest are Jew Jew Jew controlled so controlled so controlled so again they they only exist as a puppet again they they only exist as a puppet again they they only exist as a puppet of Jews in this kind of worldview and of Jews in this kind of worldview and of Jews in this kind of worldview and it's like that to me if there were no it's like that to me if there were no it's like that to me if there were no Jews on Earth it is crazy to say that Jews on Earth it is crazy to say that Jews on Earth it is crazy to say that John Bolton and Liz Cheney and Lindsey John Bolton and Liz Cheney and Lindsey John Bolton and Liz Cheney and Lindsey Graham wouldn't be pushing for more war Graham wouldn't be pushing for more war Graham wouldn't be pushing for more war that makes no sense to me it's like the that makes no sense to me it's like the that makes no sense to me it's like the you blame the Jews when bad things

you blame the Jews when bad things you blame the Jews when bad things happen but when a Jewish person doesn't happen but when a Jewish person doesn't happen but when a Jewish person doesn't some something good it doesn't really some something good it doesn't really some something good it doesn't really matter or just wait he's he's going to matter or just wait he's he's going to matter or just wait he's he's going to do something bad well yeah that's true do something bad well yeah that's true do something bad well yeah that's true human beings do good things and then human beings do good things and then human beings do good things and then they do bad things sometimes but it only they do bad things sometimes but it only they do bad things sometimes but it only counts counts counts when that Jewish person does the bad when that Jewish person does the bad when that Jewish person does the bad thing I wonder what's a way to fight thing I wonder what's a way to fight thing I wonder what's a way to fight anti-Semitism and fight hate in general anti-Semitism and fight hate in general anti-Semitism and fight hate in general I think the only or the best way because I think the only or the best way because I think the only or the best way because I thought a lot about this about how did I thought a lot about this about how did I thought a lot about this about how did gay Americans go from being universally gay Americans go from being universally gay Americans go from being universally hated and despised to the point that hated and despised to the point that hated and despised to the point that many people in the 80s went to their many people in the 80s went to their many people in the 80s went to their graves those who had AIDS without even graves those who had AIDS without even graves those who had AIDS without even telling their parents because they were telling their parents because they were telling their parents because they were so scared to now Time Square is just so scared to now Time Square is just so scared to now Time Square is just covered in Pride flags and I think and covered in Pride flags and I think and covered in Pride flags and I think and this this also works for islamophobia this this also works for islamophobia this this also works for islamophobia and some of these other bigotry is what and some of these other bigotry is what and some of these other bigotry is what I call the ambassador program because as I call the ambassador program because as I call the ambassador program because as soon as you know someone who is a member soon as you know someone who is a member soon as you know someone who is a member of a certain group it is a lot harder to of a certain group it is a lot harder to of a certain group it is a lot harder to be bigoted against them because instead be bigoted against them because instead be bigoted against them because instead of this being this out group that's of this being this out group that's of this being this out group that's somewhere out there it's like wait a somewhere out there it's like wait a somewhere out there it's like wait a minute I work with this guy yeah he's minute I work with this guy yeah he's minute I work with this guy yeah he's kind of a jerk and maybe he sees things kind of a jerk and maybe he sees things kind of a jerk and maybe he sees things a little differently than me but this a little differently than me but this a little differently than me but this guy is not a horrible human being so I guy is not a horrible human being so I guy is not a horrible human being so I think the only way to fight any form of think the only way to fight any form of think the only way to fight any form of bigotry is to be a good example of the bigotry is to be a good example of the bigotry is to be a good example of the counter to these um whatever archetype counter to these um whatever archetype counter to these um whatever archetype or stereotype is in the

culture KL Marx wrote that religion is culture KL Marx wrote that religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature the the sigh of the oppressed creature the the sigh of the oppressed creature the heart of a heartless world and the soul heart of a heartless world and the soul heart of a heartless world and the soul of a soulless condition it is the Opium of a soulless condition it is the Opium of a soulless condition it is the Opium of the people as the famous phrase goes of the people as the famous phrase goes of the people as the famous phrase goes do you think he has a point no I hate do you think he has a point no I hate do you think he has a point no I hate that quote I absolutely hate it I that quote I absolutely hate it I that quote I absolutely hate it I despise this sort of Reddit internet despise this sort of Reddit internet despise this sort of Reddit internet atheist activism for the simple reason atheist activism for the simple reason atheist activism for the simple reason that I know many people who in finding that I know many people who in finding that I know many people who in finding Faith have become objectively better Faith have become objectively better Faith have become objectively better human beings yeah they start living human beings yeah they start living human beings yeah they start living consciously they take morality seriously consciously they take morality seriously consciously they take morality seriously they try we we all fail to be moral good they try we we all fail to be moral good they try we we all fail to be moral good people so this sneering that these people so this sneering that these people so this sneering that these midwit these marginally intelligent midwit these marginally intelligent midwit these marginally intelligent people have towards religious people now people have towards religious people now people have towards religious people now lots of religious people use religion to lots of religious people use religion to lots of religious people use religion to rationalize their bad behavior or uh you rationalize their bad behavior or uh you rationalize their bad behavior or uh you know sinful or big ego so on so forth know sinful or big ego so on so forth know sinful or big ego so on so forth that exists that's true but to say that that exists that's true but to say that that exists that's true but to say that it never helps anyone and it's it never helps anyone and it's it never helps anyone and it's universally the O see Marx was talking universally the O see Marx was talking universally the O see Marx was talking about a period I mean I'll defend his about a period I mean I'll defend his about a period I mean I'll defend his quote when his argument was you know the quote when his argument was you know the quote when his argument was you know the masses are being starved and oppressed masses are being starved and oppressed masses are being starved and oppressed but they're promised you don't worry but they're promised you don't worry but they're promised you don't worry you'll have riches in heaven so you you'll have riches in heaven so you you'll have riches in heaven so you should kind of like let yourself be should kind of like let yourself be should kind of like let yourself be pushed around now and this is kind of pushed around now and this is kind of pushed around now and this is kind of this BS bargain that the people are this BS bargain that the people are this BS bargain that the people are being given so that was I think the being given so that was I think the being given so that was I think the point he was making it's not it point he was making it's not it point he was making it's not it certainly doesn't apply uh um nowadays

certainly doesn't apply uh um nowadays certainly doesn't apply uh um nowadays um I I I've close to the family in the um I I I've close to the family in the um I I I've close to the family in the midwest they're good Christian people I midwest they're good Christian people I midwest they're good Christian people I remember very specifically this guy remember very specifically this guy remember very specifically this guy shout out to him Sean shered I went to shout out to him Sean shered I went to shout out to him Sean shered I went to college with him uh David Lucas um and college with him uh David Lucas um and college with him uh David Lucas um and have you checked out the comedy have you checked out the comedy have you checked out the comedy Mothership great great Club is it Austin Mothership great great Club is it Austin Mothership great great Club is it Austin um Willie Nelson and I you know I was 17 um Willie Nelson and I you know I was 17 um Willie Nelson and I you know I was 17 18 freshman year uh and I was reading 18 freshman year uh and I was reading 18 freshman year uh and I was reading all this criticism of the Bible and I all this criticism of the Bible and I all this criticism of the Bible and I was like look this is in there look at was like look this is in there look at was like look this is in there look at this in there and he put his hand on my this in there and he put his hand on my this in there and he put his hand on my shoulder and he says Michael there's shoulder and he says Michael there's shoulder and he says Michael there's nothing you're going to tell me that's nothing you're going to tell me that's nothing you're going to tell me that's going to make me lose my faith and that going to make me lose my faith and that going to make me lose my faith and that was a very uh self-aware and profound was a very uh self-aware and profound was a very uh self-aware and profound something to say as I've gotten older something to say as I've gotten older something to say as I've gotten older and I know lots of religious people and I know lots of religious people and I know lots of religious people there's no part of me that um thinks there's no part of me that um thinks there's no part of me that um thinks they're wrong or they should be mocked they're wrong or they should be mocked they're wrong or they should be mocked it's like you it also reminds me of when it's like you it also reminds me of when it's like you it also reminds me of when people sneer at uh addicts in recovery people sneer at uh addicts in recovery people sneer at uh addicts in recovery they're like alcoholism is a disease they're like alcoholism is a disease they're like alcoholism is a disease it's a choice it's like wait a minute it's a choice it's like wait a minute it's a choice it's like wait a minute you don't know what it's like to have you don't know what it's like to have you don't know what it's like to have your entire life ruined by drugs or your entire life ruined by drugs or your entire life ruined by drugs or alcohol and if you have to tell yourself alcohol and if you have to tell yourself alcohol and if you have to tell yourself you know I have this disease and blah you know I have this disease and blah you know I have this disease and blah blah blah and that keeps you from blah blah and that keeps you from blah blah and that keeps you from drinking thinking and now you're a moral drinking thinking and now you're a moral drinking thinking and now you're a moral upstanding person who's reliable and and upstanding person who's reliable and and upstanding person who's reliable and and takes responsib for their actions I I I takes responsib for their actions I I I takes responsib for their actions I I I don't see the harm at all so I I think don't see the harm at all so I I think don't see the harm at all so I I think this kind of activist atheism is uh this kind of activist atheism is uh this kind of activist atheism is uh cheap I I don't agree with it whatsoever cheap I I don't agree with it whatsoever cheap I I don't agree with it whatsoever and I I do not like that quote at all uh and I I do not like that quote at all uh and I I do not like that quote at all uh but otherwise big fan of marks I mean it but otherwise big fan of marks I mean it but otherwise big fan of marks I mean it it's I I think there's a fan of mine I

it's I I think there's a fan of mine I it's I I think there's a fan of mine I forget who it was apologies he had this forget who it was apologies he had this forget who it was apologies he had this great quote he goes the G and this is me great quote he goes the G and this is me great quote he goes the G and this is me talking he goes the game people play to talking he goes the game people play to talking he goes the game people play to to feel smarter than others is to feel smarter than others is to feel smarter than others is depressing and annoying and I think this depressing and annoying and I think this depressing and annoying and I think this kind of Fedora internet atheism is a kind of Fedora internet atheism is a kind of Fedora internet atheism is a good example because here's the other good example because here's the other good example because here's the other thing if you've proven that someone else thing if you've proven that someone else thing if you've proven that someone else is stupid that doesn't mean you're smart is stupid that doesn't mean you're smart is stupid that doesn't mean you're smart you could both be stupid so congrats you you could both be stupid so congrats you you could both be stupid so congrats you prove someone else is stupid who cares prove someone else is stupid who cares prove someone else is stupid who cares yeah and sneering inol forms yes in yeah and sneering inol forms yes in yeah and sneering inol forms yes in general is just general is just general is just not great that's one of the things I not great that's one of the things I not great that's one of the things I block out people on social media block out people on social media block out people on social media instantly you're not going to sneer at instantly you're not going to sneer at instantly you're not going to sneer at me in my space you could steer me all me in my space you could steer me all me in my space you could steer me all you want in your space but I'm not you want in your space but I'm not you want in your space but I'm not putting up your crap I don't know you putting up your crap I don't know you putting up your crap I don't know you mys space great social network is that mys space great social network is that mys space great social network is that on uh 6 that six six on uh 6 that six six on uh 6 that six six Street aol.com clang clang that's how Lex aol.com clang clang that's how Lex comes like a pavo's dog that was the comes like a pavo's dog that was the comes like a pavo's dog that was the sound before you get to see spend 10 sound before you get to see spend 10 sound before you get to see spend 10 minutes waiting for an minutes waiting for an minutes waiting for an image of a lady image of a lady image of a lady load one line of a time uh I recently talked to uh John Mir time uh I recently talked to uh John Mir shammer I don't know if you know him at shammer I don't know if you know him at shammer I don't know if you know him at all uh so he has this idea about uh all uh so he has this idea about uh all uh so he has this idea about uh offensive realism it's a way to analyze offensive realism it's a way to analyze offensive realism it's a way to analyze the world international relations and uh the world international relations and uh the world international relations and uh the basic idea and I'll run by you and the basic idea and I'll run by you and the basic idea and I'll run by you and see what you see what you see what you think

think think is that um States nations want to is that um States nations want to is that um States nations want to survive and they try to do so by survive and they try to do so by survive and they try to do so by maximizing power military power and he maximizing power military power and he maximizing power military power and he talks about Anarchy quite a bit in that talks about Anarchy quite a bit in that talks about Anarchy quite a bit in that one of the underlying assumptions of one of the underlying assumptions of one of the underlying assumptions of this way of viewing the world is that this way of viewing the world is that this way of viewing the world is that states are anarchic towards each other states are anarchic towards each other states are anarchic towards each other yes that's true and they operate under a yes that's true and they operate under a yes that's true and they operate under a lot of uncertainty States cannot be sure lot of uncertainty States cannot be sure lot of uncertainty States cannot be sure that other states will not use military that other states will not use military that other states will not use military capabilities against them right they capabilities against them right they capabilities against them right they want to survive and they want to use want to survive and they want to use want to survive and they want to use military power military power military power to uh control the to uh control the to uh control the uncertainty to protect themselves so I I uncertainty to protect themselves so I I uncertainty to protect themselves so I I I disagree in that regard and I I see on I disagree in that regard and I I see on I disagree in that regard and I I see on your bookshelf uh I think the world is a your bookshelf uh I think the world is a your bookshelf uh I think the world is a lot closer to Brave New World than it is lot closer to Brave New World than it is lot closer to Brave New World than it is to to to 1984 and I think it is if you look at 1984 and I think it is if you look at 1984 and I think it is if you look at let's suppose China's influence in let's suppose China's influence in let's suppose China's influence in America right the influence is far more America right the influence is far more America right the influence is far more through soft power than military power through soft power than military power through soft power than military power China doesn't threaten America through China doesn't threaten America through China doesn't threaten America through you know we're going to kill you it's you know we're going to kill you it's you know we're going to kill you it's more like their infiltration of more like their infiltration of more like their infiltration of universities Tik Tock things of that universities Tik Tock things of that universities Tik Tock things of that nature maybe this would have worked nature maybe this would have worked nature maybe this would have worked before the pop culture era but I think before the pop culture era but I think before the pop culture era but I think one of the reasons we have this kind of one of the reasons we have this kind of one of the reasons we have this kind of American hegemony isn't just a function American hegemony isn't just a function American hegemony isn't just a function of American Military I think it's much of American Military I think it's much of American Military I think it's much more a function of American popular more a function of American popular more a function of American popular culture when you're exporting ideas and culture when you're exporting ideas and culture when you're exporting ideas and culture it makes other people in other culture it makes other people in other culture it makes other people in other countries feel closer to you and also

countries feel closer to you and also countries feel closer to you and also feel regard you as as a friend and also feel regard you as as a friend and also feel regard you as as a friend and also to adopt your value it's a great way to to adopt your value it's a great way to to adopt your value it's a great way to spread spread spread propaganda it seems to correlate though propaganda it seems to correlate though propaganda it seems to correlate though right it's interesting it's an right it's interesting it's an right it's interesting it's an interesting idea what has more power the interesting idea what has more power the interesting idea what has more power the viral spread of ideas or viral spread of ideas or viral spread of ideas or the the power of the military it it the the power of the military it it the the power of the military it it seems that United States is at the top seems that United States is at the top seems that United States is at the top of the world on both that's true and so of the world on both that's true and so of the world on both that's true and so it's hard to disentangle the two let's it's hard to disentangle the two let's it's hard to disentangle the two let's look at look at look at Europe American culture is very popular Europe American culture is very popular Europe American culture is very popular in Europe in many ways right like the in Europe in many ways right like the in Europe in many ways right like the best music comes out of Sweden Swedish best music comes out of Sweden Swedish best music comes out of Sweden Swedish Indie poop they're singing in English Indie poop they're singing in English Indie poop they're singing in English you know even though so on and so forth you know even though so on and so forth you know even though so on and so forth none of this is a function maybe it's a none of this is a function maybe it's a none of this is a function maybe it's a function of post World War II to some function of post World War II to some function of post World War II to some extent but I don't think it's a function extent but I don't think it's a function extent but I don't think it's a function of American bases there I think it's a of American bases there I think it's a of American bases there I think it's a function of we're exporting our music function of we're exporting our music function of we're exporting our music our TV shows and our our TV shows and our our TV shows and our movies yeah it's interesting if the movies yeah it's interesting if the movies yeah it's interesting if the Battleground will be Brave New World the Battleground will be Brave New World the Battleground will be Brave New World the Battle of ideas I think it's kly BL I I Battle of ideas I think it's kly BL I I Battle of ideas I think it's kly BL I I I I I'm it's so much cheaper and again I I I'm it's so much cheaper and again I I I'm it's so much cheaper and again this is on the dark siid of social media this is on the dark siid of social media this is on the dark siid of social media to use influence than it is to use to use influence than it is to use to use influence than it is to use threats I don't think I think Co is a threats I don't think I think Co is a threats I don't think I think Co is a good example of this like so much of the good example of this like so much of the good example of this like so much of the pressure yes there was authoritarianism pressure yes there was authoritarianism pressure yes there was authoritarianism but it was the fact that everyone bought but it was the fact that everyone bought but it was the fact that everyone bought into it rightly or wrongly but the vast into it rightly or wrongly but the vast into it rightly or wrongly but the vast majority of the population was behind majority of the population was behind majority of the population was behind all of these things and that was through all of these things and that was through all of these things and that was through persuasion not CU and because people are persuasion not CU and because people are persuasion not CU and because people are begging for it to come back in many begging for it to come back in many begging for it to come back in many cases so who's funding you which cases so who's funding you which cases so who's funding you which intelligence agency wasad wasad wasad

intelligence agency wasad wasad wasad intelligence agency wasad wasad wasad this is how you do great interviewing this is how you do great interviewing this is how you do great interviewing see he didn't even expect see he didn't even expect see he didn't even expect that okay what's that Mr that okay what's that Mr that okay what's that Mr parrot that Mr parrot that Mr parrot that Mr parrot you knew it but you didn't have parrot you knew it but you didn't have parrot you knew it but you didn't have any documentation did you I think Mr any documentation did you I think Mr any documentation did you I think Mr parrot is threatened by the better Wings parrot is threatened by the better Wings parrot is threatened by the better Wings on chance murmur he gets like that when on chance murmur he gets like that when on chance murmur he gets like that when he's turned on he not threatened you he's turned on he not threatened you he's turned on he not threatened you can't wait until he's all three of us can't wait until he's all three of us can't wait until he's all three of us are alone together it's going to be hell are alone together it's going to be hell are alone together it's going to be hell of a party beaks and feathers everywhere of a party beaks and feathers everywhere of a party beaks and feathers everywhere and metal yeah this thing is beautiful it's metal yeah this thing is beautiful it's ridiculous you have you have actually a ridiculous you have you have actually a ridiculous you have you have actually a lot of really cool stuff at your at your lot of really cool stuff at your at your lot of really cool stuff at your at your place so fun what um what's a what's a place so fun what um what's a what's a place so fun what um what's a what's a cool thing that stands out to you maybe cool thing that stands out to you maybe cool thing that stands out to you maybe a recent addition so I went to the a recent addition so I went to the a recent addition so I went to the Dallas Museum of Art last year for my Dallas Museum of Art last year for my Dallas Museum of Art last year for my birthday and there was a painting I birthday and there was a painting I birthday and there was a painting I liked mhm M and I Googled it and I saw liked mhm M and I Googled it and I saw liked mhm M and I Googled it and I saw the auction for that exact painting and the auction for that exact painting and the auction for that exact painting and it was like I think three grand which is it was like I think three grand which is it was like I think three grand which is not cheap but not something you think not cheap but not something you think not cheap but not something you think you think in a museum I can never afford you think in a museum I can never afford you think in a museum I can never afford something like this right mhm so when I something like this right mhm so when I something like this right mhm so when I was in um I went to Houston with some was in um I went to Houston with some was in um I went to Houston with some friends the side surfs Natalie who made friends the side surfs Natalie who made friends the side surfs Natalie who made the cake of you cake um terrify my mom the cake of you cake um terrify my mom the cake of you cake um terrify my mom this it did it yeah h no it's not the this it did it yeah h no it's not the this it did it yeah h no it's not the cake that terrified my mom it's you cake that terrified my mom it's you cake that terrified my mom it's you Michael's cutting it off cutting the

Michael's cutting it off cutting the Michael's cutting it off cutting the face face face off and laughing off and laughing off and laughing maniacally well Natalie's pregnant she's maniacally well Natalie's pregnant she's maniacally well Natalie's pregnant she's going to have a daughter named Daisy so going to have a daughter named Daisy so going to have a daughter named Daisy so congrats to Natalie but I was in the congrats to Natalie but I was in the congrats to Natalie but I was in the museum with them and there was a statue museum with them and there was a statue museum with them and there was a statue of tho who's the Egyptian god whose head of tho who's the Egyptian god whose head of tho who's the Egyptian god whose head is in Ibis it's a bird with long beak is in Ibis it's a bird with long beak is in Ibis it's a bird with long beak and Thoth is the god of the Moon god of and Thoth is the god of the Moon god of and Thoth is the god of the Moon god of knowledge and supposedly he invented knowledge and supposedly he invented knowledge and supposedly he invented writing so I thought you know what I've writing so I thought you know what I've writing so I thought you know what I've always loved ancient Egypt I know a lot always loved ancient Egypt I know a lot always loved ancient Egypt I know a lot about it and especially the mythology it about it and especially the mythology it about it and especially the mythology it be really cool as an aspiring author to be really cool as an aspiring author to be really cool as an aspiring author to have an ancient Egyptian Thoth statue in have an ancient Egyptian Thoth statue in have an ancient Egyptian Thoth statue in my house my house my house well it turned out that the Egyptians well it turned out that the Egyptians well it turned out that the Egyptians also killed and mummified ibises and also killed and mummified ibises and also killed and mummified ibises and buried them with scribes and a week buried them with scribes and a week buried them with scribes and a week after I went to the museum there was an after I went to the museum there was an after I went to the museum there was an auction for an Ibis mummy and I have it auction for an Ibis mummy and I have it auction for an Ibis mummy and I have it now in my house still in its bandages now in my house still in its bandages now in my house still in its bandages overlooking my desk and we all know it's overlooking my desk and we all know it's overlooking my desk and we all know it's going to come to life and Peck out my going to come to life and Peck out my going to come to life and Peck out my eyes yeah and write with my blood but eyes yeah and write with my blood but eyes yeah and write with my blood but that is one of the recent cool additions that is one of the recent cool additions that is one of the recent cool additions another thing I have which is like in another thing I have which is like in another thing I have which is like in terms of holy crap I've made it uh I terms of holy crap I've made it uh I terms of holy crap I've made it uh I have an original Patrick Nagel painting have an original Patrick Nagel painting have an original Patrick Nagel painting and if people don't know the name he's and if people don't know the name he's and if people don't know the name he's like the80s artist he did Durand Duran like the80s artist he did Durand Duran like the80s artist he did Durand Duran cover we never see in nail salons I have cover we never see in nail salons I have cover we never see in nail salons I have a mail which were're very rare for him a mail which were're very rare for him a mail which were're very rare for him to do um so that's two of my kind of to do um so that's two of my kind of to do um so that's two of my kind of favorite pieces he only Drew women favorite pieces he only Drew women favorite pieces he only Drew women predominantly I have one where he drew a predominantly I have one where he drew a predominantly I have one where he drew a male like as a guy guy in a like a gat male like as a guy guy in a like a gat male like as a guy guy in a like a gat or or or something and now I'm looking forward to

something and now I'm looking forward to something and now I'm looking forward to so Jake made me a 3-ft tall sculpture so Jake made me a 3-ft tall sculpture so Jake made me a 3-ft tall sculpture called future murmur which I am ecstatic called future murmur which I am ecstatic called future murmur which I am ecstatic to get just remind yourself to get just remind yourself to get just remind yourself H how many fascinating beautiful people H how many fascinating beautiful people H how many fascinating beautiful people there are out there are out there are out there and just the Victory and and there and just the Victory and and there and just the Victory and and Holiness and technology and Holiness and technology and Holiness and technology and speed and how many people have you know speed and how many people have you know speed and how many people have you know thought so that I could do what I thought so that I could do what I thought so that I could do what I do yeah that's another thing I'm do yeah that's another thing I'm do yeah that's another thing I'm grateful for just like the 100 billion grateful for just like the 100 billion grateful for just like the 100 billion or so people that came before us yeah or so people that came before us yeah or so people that came before us yeah and and also the trillions of life forms and and also the trillions of life forms and and also the trillions of life forms that came before that oh god I've gone that came before that oh god I've gone that came before that oh god I've gone down down down this this troby Rabbit Hole buying this this troby Rabbit Hole buying this this troby Rabbit Hole buying fossils because as a kid I thought fossils because as a kid I thought fossils because as a kid I thought trilobites were the coolest thing and trilobites were the coolest thing and trilobites were the coolest thing and I've got like 15 yeah and what's I've got like 15 yeah and what's I've got like 15 yeah and what's interesting is when you buy triab interesting is when you buy triab interesting is when you buy triab fossils on eBay they are listed as used fossils on eBay they are listed as used fossils on eBay they are listed as used because it's got to be new used because it's got to be new used because it's got to be new used according to the programming so it's according to the programming so it's according to the programming so it's used yeah yeah that but just look used yeah yeah that but just look used yeah yeah that but just look thinking about all that thinking about all that thinking about all that history just all the life forms that history just all the life forms that history just all the life forms that came came came before it seems like a really special before it seems like a really special before it seems like a really special thing we have going on Earth here oh thing we have going on Earth here oh thing we have going on Earth here oh yeah I I think that that's that's very yeah I I think that that's that's very yeah I I think that that's that's very fair to fair to fair to say but I also think this kind of is say but I also think this kind of is say but I also think this kind of is like live life to the fullest you know like live life to the fullest you know like live life to the fullest you know kamu talked about living to the point of kamu talked about living to the point of kamu talked about living to the point of Tears yeah especially on behalf of Tears yeah especially on behalf of Tears yeah especially on behalf of people who didn't have that privilege people who didn't have that privilege people who didn't have that privilege mhm so you know I dedicated the white

mhm so you know I dedicated the white mhm so you know I dedicated the white pill to my parents who got me out of the pill to my parents who got me out of the pill to my parents who got me out of the Soviet Union and all the kids who never Soviet Union and all the kids who never Soviet Union and all the kids who never could and it's like when I die I want could and it's like when I die I want could and it's like when I die I want everyone else to not only they're everyone else to not only they're everyone else to not only they're obviously going to be happy but yeah obviously going to be happy but yeah obviously going to be happy but yeah like I'm not here en enjoy what you you like I'm not here en enjoy what you you like I'm not here en enjoy what you you live for me because I can't have that live for me because I can't have that live for me because I can't have that privilege privilege privilege anymore what do you think about kamu as anymore what do you think about kamu as anymore what do you think about kamu as a writer I don't like his novels at all a writer I don't like his novels at all a writer I don't like his novels at all oh you don't at all yeah you've talked oh you don't at all yeah you've talked oh you don't at all yeah you've talked shit about the plague to meit I didn't I shit about the plague to meit I didn't I shit about the plague to meit I didn't I I think the book is pointless it's I think the book is pointless it's I think the book is pointless it's fascinating cuz all you need to do is fascinating cuz all you need to do is fascinating cuz all you need to do is read the synopsis and then you get it read the synopsis and then you get it read the synopsis and then you get it like I don't think his book is that true like I don't think his book is that true like I don't think his book is that true for most books no I mean like you could for most books no I mean like you could for most books no I mean like you could take I I don't know I just don't agree take I I don't know I just don't agree take I I don't know I just don't agree at all there I mean it's it's catcher in at all there I mean it's it's catcher in at all there I mean it's it's catcher in their ey there's a lot of books that are their ey there's a lot of books that are their ey there's a lot of books that are seem trivial I don't think it seems seem trivial I don't think it seems seem trivial I don't think it seems trivial but I think animal trivial but I think animal trivial but I think animal farm animal farm is a methodical farm animal farm is a methodical farm animal farm is a methodical step-by-step examination of a step-by-step examination of a step-by-step examination of a transformation from one thing to another transformation from one thing to another transformation from one thing to another the plague is not that it's a the plague is not that it's a the plague is not that it's a methodical methodical methodical examination of what a society is like examination of what a society is like examination of what a society is like under the plague which could symbolize a under the plague which could symbolize a under the plague which could symbolize a lot of things including the plague lot of things including the plague lot of things including the plague directly or Nazi Germany or ideological directly or Nazi Germany or ideological directly or Nazi Germany or ideological movements or it's it's similar to Animal movements or it's it's similar to Animal movements or it's it's similar to Animal Farm maybe not as effective in terms of Farm maybe not as effective in terms of Farm maybe not as effective in terms of using this kind of symbology anal Farm using this kind of symbology anal Farm using this kind of symbology anal Farm has a narrative and I'm GNA spoil the has a narrative and I'm GNA spoil the has a narrative and I'm GNA spoil the whole plague the book The Plague okay whole plague the book The Plague okay whole plague the book The Plague okay there's a there's a town I believe in there's a there's a town I believe in there's a there's a town I believe in Oman mhm a plague descends people Oman mhm a plague descends people Oman mhm a plague descends people struggle to deal with it and the plague

struggle to deal with it and the plague struggle to deal with it and the plague vanishes as quickly as it came the vanishes as quickly as it came the vanishes as quickly as it came the end yeah but there's the victims the the end yeah but there's the victims the the end yeah but there's the victims the the people that take advantage of it there's people that take advantage of it there's people that take advantage of it there's the doctor that amidst the absurdity and the doctor that amidst the absurdity and the doctor that amidst the absurdity and the evil of the plague is fighting to do the evil of the plague is fighting to do the evil of the plague is fighting to do good nothing for me does nothing okay good nothing for me does nothing okay good nothing for me does nothing okay well I can spoil Animal Farm there's well I can spoil Animal Farm there's well I can spoil Animal Farm there's uh pigs there's animals at a uh pigs there's animals at a uh pigs there's animals at a farm and they the humans are abused farm and they the humans are abused farm and they the humans are abused using them and then the animals using them and then the animals using them and then the animals overthrow the humans but overthrow the humans but overthrow the humans but then the pigs uh become just like the then the pigs uh become just like the then the pigs uh become just like the humans it the lesson kids is that uh humans it the lesson kids is that uh humans it the lesson kids is that uh power corrupts no matter whether you power corrupts no matter whether you power corrupts no matter whether you walk on four or on two I thought the walk on four or on two I thought the walk on four or on two I thought the lesson was that pigs are the most lesson was that pigs are the most lesson was that pigs are the most humanlike animals on the farm I thought humanlike animals on the farm I thought humanlike animals on the farm I thought the I thought the lesson was that the I thought the lesson was that the I thought the lesson was that there's no Sugar cany there's no Sugar cany there's no Sugar cany Mountain that's Mountain that's Mountain that's right you've interviewed a lot of people right you've interviewed a lot of people right you've interviewed a lot of people yeah what have you yeah what have you yeah what have you learned learned learned about getting to the soul of a person about getting to the soul of a person about getting to the soul of a person the soul of an idea from interviewing the soul of an idea from interviewing the soul of an idea from interviewing just how to do a good interview first just how to do a good interview first just how to do a good interview first I'm not interviewing just random people I'm not interviewing just random people I'm not interviewing just random people I'm I'm interviewing people who are I'm I'm interviewing people who are I'm I'm interviewing people who are accomplished it's not a random group accomplished it's not a random group accomplished it's not a random group that's self- selecting for something that's self- selecting for something that's self- selecting for something different but I think that people um different but I think that people um different but I think that people um love to and this is very understandable love to and this is very understandable love to and this is very understandable love to feel love to feel love to feel seen so if you're someone who's done seen so if you're someone who's done seen so if you're someone who's done something even if you're like the best something even if you're like the best something even if you're like the best Gua pig breeder in America to have Gua pig breeder in America to have Gua pig breeder in America to have someone interested in your work and ask someone interested in your work and ask someone interested in your work and ask and listen to what you're saying cuz I

and listen to what you're saying cuz I and listen to what you're saying cuz I remember every book I've written you remember every book I've written you remember every book I've written you know I have friends and I wouldn't stop know I have friends and I wouldn't stop know I have friends and I wouldn't stop talking about you know the the the the talking about you know the the the the talking about you know the the the the person I'm writing with or you know the person I'm writing with or you know the person I'm writing with or you know the North Korea and a certain point I'm sure North Korea and a certain point I'm sure North Korea and a certain point I'm sure they're like all right I don't care they're like all right I don't care they're like all right I don't care about this anymore but like it takes about this anymore but like it takes about this anymore but like it takes over your brain you know what I mean so over your brain you know what I mean so over your brain you know what I mean so if you someone who has an interest or a if you someone who has an interest or a if you someone who has an interest or a hobby I'm sure to some extent maybe your hobby I'm sure to some extent maybe your hobby I'm sure to some extent maybe your friends or family are sick of talking friends or family are sick of talking friends or family are sick of talking about it or you don't want to talk about about it or you don't want to talk about about it or you don't want to talk about with them you want to have that's the with them you want to have that's the with them you want to have that's the private life where you could just be private life where you could just be private life where you could just be yourself yourself yourself so I try to and this comes from my so I try to and this comes from my so I try to and this comes from my co-authoring background when I'm talking co-authoring background when I'm talking co-authoring background when I'm talking to people to ask questions that they to people to ask questions that they to people to ask questions that they haven't heard before um there's a haven't heard before um there's a haven't heard before um there's a possibility uh that this actor I'm a possibility uh that this actor I'm a possibility uh that this actor I'm a huge fan of um is going to be on my show huge fan of um is going to be on my show huge fan of um is going to be on my show I don't want to spoil everything and I don't want to spoil everything and I don't want to spoil everything and he's got a very specific role that he's he's got a very specific role that he's he's got a very specific role that he's known for and I know I'm going to I'm known for and I know I'm going to I'm known for and I know I'm going to I'm like okay I'm going to I know it's going like okay I'm going to I know it's going like okay I'm going to I know it's going to be annoying for you talking about to be annoying for you talking about to be annoying for you talking about this one role but my goal is to ask this one role but my goal is to ask this one role but my goal is to ask questions that have you have aren't sick questions that have you have aren't sick questions that have you have aren't sick of asking having been asked porn star or of asking having been asked porn star or of asking having been asked porn star or uh no not a porn uh no not a porn uh no not a porn star that joke failed also at it star that joke failed also at it star that joke failed also at it out what do you know about breeding out what do you know about breeding out what do you know about breeding guinea pigs you mentioned it I'd love to guinea pigs you mentioned it I'd love to guinea pigs you mentioned it I'd love to hear I I'd love to hear more about it hear I I'd love to hear more about it hear I I'd love to hear more about it this is I always use this as an example this is I always use this as an example this is I always use this as an example I said there's there's you you meet I said there's there's you you meet I said there's there's you you meet someone to a party who breeds guinea someone to a party who breeds guinea someone to a party who breeds guinea pigs right there's two approaches either pigs right there's two approaches either pigs right there's two approaches either you're weird get okay or sit down and you're weird get okay or sit down and you're weird get okay or sit down and tell me everything yeah and I'm very tell me everything yeah and I'm very tell me everything yeah and I'm very much and all the people I like are are much and all the people I like are are much and all the people I like are are the second group when you meet someone

the second group when you meet someone the second group when you meet someone who's doing something unusual and are who's doing something unusual and are who's doing something unusual and are passionate about it and you know are passionate about it and you know are passionate about it and you know are good at it like that to me is the mother good at it like that to me is the mother good at it like that to me is the mother load yeah that to me uh also is the load yeah that to me uh also is the load yeah that to me uh also is the thing I enjoy the most it's thing I enjoy the most it's thing I enjoy the most it's like that are passionate about who you like that are passionate about who you like that are passionate about who you guys hate do you guys hate the hamster guys hate do you guys hate the hamster guys hate do you guys hate the hamster people do you hate the rabbit people people do you hate the rabbit people people do you hate the rabbit people there's got to be someone that you guys there's got to be someone that you guys there's got to be someone that you guys look down on cuz like the marine look down on cuz like the marine look down on cuz like the marine aquarium people look down the freshwater aquarium people look down the freshwater aquarium people look down the freshwater aquarium people yeah a hierarchy yes aquarium people yeah a hierarchy yes aquarium people yeah a hierarchy yes there's always going to be a hierarchy there's always going to be a hierarchy there's always going to be a hierarchy this is where the left anarchists and I this is where the left anarchists and I this is where the left anarchists and I disagree because they think you can have disagree because they think you can have disagree because they think you can have egalitarianism there's going to be a egalitarianism there's going to be a egalitarianism there's going to be a hierarchy hierarchies emerge yes there's hierarchy hierarchies emerge yes there's hierarchy hierarchies emerge yes there's no Anarchy in the guinea pig world no no Anarchy in the guinea pig world no no Anarchy in the guinea pig world no it's just a different kind of Anarchy it's just a different kind of Anarchy it's just a different kind of Anarchy somebody's always breeding somebody else somebody's always breeding somebody else somebody's always breeding somebody else yes and looking down on the others if yes and looking down on the others if yes and looking down on the others if someone's the other yeah whether it's someone's the other yeah whether it's someone's the other yeah whether it's the hamster people the rat people and the hamster people the rat people and the hamster people the rat people and everybody's breeding yeah everybody's breeding yeah everybody's breeding yeah H by the way are you a an archal H by the way are you a an archal H by the way are you a an archal capitalist what kind of what flavor of capitalist what kind of what flavor of capitalist what kind of what flavor of anarchist are you I'm an anarchist anarchist are you I'm an anarchist anarchist are you I'm an anarchist without adjectives I like them all the without adjectives I like them all the without adjectives I like them all the Black Flag comes in many all right all Black Flag comes in many all right all Black Flag comes in many all right all right you're quoting your yeah no I right you're quoting your yeah no I right you're quoting your yeah no I understand you're it was it's a understand you're it was it's a understand you're it was it's a beautiful line in the book Thank You MH beautiful line in the book Thank You MH beautiful line in the book Thank You MH I think the anarcho capitalists don't I think the anarcho capitalists don't I think the anarcho capitalists don't give the left anarchists enough credit give the left anarchists enough credit give the left anarchists enough credit especially for their especially for their especially for their courage and I do whatever I can in my courage and I do whatever I can in my courage and I do whatever I can in my power to talk about people like Emma power to talk about people like Emma power to talk about people like Emma Goldman whenever Poss Goldman whenever Poss Goldman whenever Poss possible do you still think uh that are possible do you still think uh that are possible do you still think uh that are some people better than others is a good some people better than others is a good some people better than others is a good litmus test yes it's worked 100% of the litmus test yes it's worked 100% of the litmus test yes it's worked 100% of the time and for you the answer is yes I

time and for you the answer is yes I time and for you the answer is yes I never answer never answer never answer oh there's two of oh there's two of oh there's two of [Laughter] [Laughter] [Laughter] them what are you getting all Hitchcock them what are you getting all Hitchcock them what are you getting all Hitchcock up in up in up in here oh hey careful I always got your back careful I always got your back uh what little habits in your life make uh what little habits in your life make uh what little habits in your life make you you you happy now that you're in Austin oh my God I was prepping for this God I was prepping for this interview and I imagined this coming up interview and I imagined this coming up interview and I imagined this coming up MH and I knew that as I explain MH and I knew that as I explain MH and I knew that as I explain this you know how sometimes when someone this you know how sometimes when someone this you know how sometimes when someone tells a story like At first it's amusing tells a story like At first it's amusing tells a story like At first it's amusing then it's amusing concerned and then then it's amusing concerned and then then it's amusing concerned and then you're like holy shit like like where's you're like holy shit like like where's you're like holy shit like like where's the exit yeah I'm getting nervous the exit yeah I'm getting nervous the exit yeah I'm getting nervous already you should so I'm going to tell already you should so I'm going to tell already you should so I'm going to tell you something I've told only a couple of you something I've told only a couple of you something I've told only a couple of people this is my people this is my people this is my absolutely off the absolutely off the absolutely off the charts autistic approach to charts autistic approach to charts autistic approach to shaving oh so I have this shaving oh so I have this shaving oh so I have this insane system uh you ask about habits insane system uh you ask about habits insane system uh you ask about habits that g me a joy I used to hate shaving I that g me a joy I used to hate shaving I that g me a joy I used to hate shaving I used to hate it there's something called used to hate it there's something called used to hate it there's something called wet wet wet shaving so wet shaving is you get the shaving so wet shaving is you get the shaving so wet shaving is you get the brush M you get the soap that's in a brush M you get the soap that's in a brush M you get the soap that's in a canister you Stir It Up you paint your

canister you Stir It Up you paint your canister you Stir It Up you paint your face and then you shave the thing face and then you shave the thing face and then you shave the thing is there is there is there are dozens of these shaving soap are dozens of these shaving soap are dozens of these shaving soap companies yeah okay so I tried a couple companies yeah okay so I tried a couple companies yeah okay so I tried a couple of hundred of these soaps cuz you're of hundred of these soaps cuz you're of hundred of these soaps cuz you're testing for testing for testing for you're testing for what the lather you're testing for what the lather you're testing for what the lather thickness and also how smooth of a shave thickness and also how smooth of a shave thickness and also how smooth of a shave it gives you it gives you it gives you y I have it y I have it y I have it down I'm not making this up I'm not this down I'm not making this up I'm not this down I'm not making this up I'm not this creative I have it down to a cycle of 67 creative I have it down to a cycle of 67 creative I have it down to a cycle of 67 soaps yeah okay so cycle a cycle so 67 soaps yeah okay so cycle a cycle so 67 soaps yeah okay so cycle a cycle so 67 yeah when I use up one soap that is a yeah when I use up one soap that is a yeah when I use up one soap that is a slot that I will have to try new ones m slot that I will have to try new ones m slot that I will have to try new ones m and I will try new ones in that slot and I will try new ones in that slot and I will try new ones in that slot until I get one that I like and then until I get one that I like and then until I get one that I like and then that slot is that slot is that slot is filled so right now I have 67 that I use filled so right now I have 67 that I use filled so right now I have 67 that I use and I have and I have and I have 86 candidates like in the yeah in the in 86 candidates like in the yeah in the in 86 candidates like in the yeah in the in the queue do you label them do you the queue do you label them do you the queue do you label them do you remember like which one is which well remember like which one is which well remember like which one is which well they all have beautiful labels I mean they all have beautiful labels I mean they all have beautiful labels I mean these are Artisans who are creating these are Artisans who are creating these are Artisans who are creating these amazing things so they're I would these amazing things so they're I would these amazing things so they're I would encourage everyone to try this hobby encourage everyone to try this hobby encourage everyone to try this hobby who's a guy it's so much fun I will give who's a guy it's so much fun I will give who's a guy it's so much fun I will give a shout outs to the companies that that a shout outs to the companies that that a shout outs to the companies that that are the best so the best company in my are the best so the best company in my are the best so the best company in my opinion is company called uh they just opinion is company called uh they just opinion is company called uh they just changed the name because you know what changed the name because you know what changed the name because you know what they're originally called I'm not joking they're originally called I'm not joking they're originally called I'm not joking yeah grooming yeah grooming yeah grooming department and now it's like not a bad

department and now it's like not a bad department and now it's like not a bad name yeah but it has certain name yeah but it has certain name yeah but it has certain connotations in discourse so now he connotations in discourse so now he connotations in discourse so now he contemporary discourse yes he changed contemporary discourse yes he changed contemporary discourse yes he changed his name to ion skincare a IO n that's his name to ion skincare a IO n that's his name to ion skincare a IO n that's the the sense of the most sophisticated the the sense of the most sophisticated the the sense of the most sophisticated the most diverse and the the soap is the most diverse and the the soap is the most diverse and the the soap is just really high quality mhm another just really high quality mhm another just really high quality mhm another amazing company is Barrister and man and amazing company is Barrister and man and amazing company is Barrister and man and if I'm going to tell you to try one it's if I'm going to tell you to try one it's if I'm going to tell you to try one it's called cheser Uh he comes out with new called cheser Uh he comes out with new called cheser Uh he comes out with new ones every month or so uh a lot of it's ones every month or so uh a lot of it's ones every month or so uh a lot of it's miss a lot of it's hit just great great miss a lot of it's hit just great great miss a lot of it's hit just great great quality stuff uh another great company quality stuff uh another great company quality stuff uh another great company is chiseled face they make something is chiseled face they make something is chiseled face they make something called Midnight stag which basically called Midnight stag which basically called Midnight stag which basically smells like a garage it's one of my smells like a garage it's one of my smells like a garage it's one of my favorite soaps of all time yeah what favorite soaps of all time yeah what favorite soaps of all time yeah what what makes for a good smell for Michael what makes for a good smell for Michael what makes for a good smell for Michael Mouse I I have 67 answers so some Mouse I I have 67 answers so some Mouse I I have 67 answers so some put into convert some are citrusy some put into convert some are citrusy some put into convert some are citrusy some are industrial some so garage is more are industrial some so garage is more are industrial some so garage is more industrial it's smells like a garage industrial it's smells like a garage industrial it's smells like a garage yeah midnight stag it smells like a yeah midnight stag it smells like a yeah midnight stag it smells like a garage some are fun because there's garage some are fun because there's garage some are fun because there's smells that smell like other things for smells that smell like other things for smells that smell like other things for example there's a scent in my queue example there's a scent in my queue example there's a scent in my queue called finding Scotty it smells like called finding Scotty it smells like called finding Scotty it smells like Swedish Swedish Swedish Fish um another great company is Phoenix Fish um another great company is Phoenix Fish um another great company is Phoenix shaving um and they have one called shaving um and they have one called shaving um and they have one called Aloha Smackdown smells like Hawaiian Aloha Smackdown smells like Hawaiian Aloha Smackdown smells like Hawaiian Punch they had one called Ule ham that Punch they had one called Ule ham that Punch they had one called Ule ham that they made for me special smells like a they made for me special smells like a they made for me special smells like a ham they had a Ramen one rock and ramen ham they had a Ramen one rock and ramen ham they had a Ramen one rock and ramen um smells like cup of noodles um so um smells like cup of noodles um so um smells like cup of noodles um so they're great and they every year they they're great and they every year they they're great and they every year they do an advent calendar where you for 12 do an advent calendar where you for 12 do an advent calendar where you for 12 days you have a little sample of a soap days you have a little sample of a soap days you have a little sample of a soap and a sample of the After Shave nice um and a sample of the After Shave nice um and a sample of the After Shave nice um so those are I'm forgetting someone and

so those are I'm forgetting someone and so those are I'm forgetting someone and I'm feeling angry that I'm doing it but I'm feeling angry that I'm doing it but I'm feeling angry that I'm doing it but those are some of the oh and Katie's those are some of the oh and Katie's those are some of the oh and Katie's bubbles is great they're vegan um out of bubbles is great they're vegan um out of bubbles is great they're vegan um out of New Jersey uh they've got one called a New Jersey uh they've got one called a New Jersey uh they've got one called a knee high to a grape it smells like knee high to a grape it smells like knee high to a grape it smells like grape soda um I I think those are the grape soda um I I think those are the grape soda um I I think those are the biggest names off the top of my head biggest names off the top of my head biggest names off the top of my head will that list converge down to a small will that list converge down to a small will that list converge down to a small set eventually or no 67 down to well no set eventually or no 67 down to well no set eventually or no 67 down to well no it's down to it's 67 so oh so it's it's down to it's 67 so oh so it's it's down to it's 67 so oh so it's always keeps right so if there's a slot always keeps right so if there's a slot always keeps right so if there's a slot then you know what I mean like I'll fill then you know what I mean like I'll fill then you know what I mean like I'll fill that you what I'm saying Al so you will that you what I'm saying Al so you will that you what I'm saying Al so you will forever have the variety of 67 forever have the variety of 67 forever have the variety of 67 yes huh you know you know what you know yes huh you know you know what you know yes huh you know you know what you know how sad my brain is when I when you were how sad my brain is when I when you were how sad my brain is when I when you were telling me this I was like I wonder how telling me this I was like I wonder how telling me this I was like I wonder how many many many soaps are left in Michael mouse's life soaps are left in Michael mouse's life soaps are left in Michael mouse's life like you can Count Your Life by Days by like you can Count Your Life by Days by like you can Count Your Life by Days by months by years or by soaps that is months by years or by soaps that is months by years or by soaps that is depressing that is dark cuz each each depressing that is dark cuz each each depressing that is dark cuz each each experience of Shaving is a little experience of Shaving is a little experience of Shaving is a little beautiful experience yes it is how many beautiful experience yes it is how many beautiful experience yes it is how many do you have left in your life right do you have left in your life right do you have left in your life right that's true yeah I got to tell you that's true yeah I got to tell you that's true yeah I got to tell you there's something else there's a term there's something else there's a term there's something else there's a term called my friend Jackie tell me called called my friend Jackie tell me called called my friend Jackie tell me called touching pan it's a makeup term so touching pan it's a makeup term so touching pan it's a makeup term so basically when you use it and you could basically when you use it and you could basically when you use it and you could see the bottom mhm that's like a big see the bottom mhm that's like a big see the bottom mhm that's like a big moment oh it's a great thing yeah it's moment oh it's a great thing yeah it's moment oh it's a great thing yeah it's like it was kind of fun I'm telling you like it was kind of fun I'm telling you like it was kind of fun I'm telling you like people can scoff it is such a fun like people can scoff it is such a fun like people can scoff it is such a fun and there's a lot of Us online who are and there's a lot of Us online who are and there's a lot of Us online who are into this whole Space it's really really into this whole Space it's really really into this whole Space it's really really fun when did you first discover this can fun when did you first discover this can fun when did you first discover this can I curse yeah fuck you Cole Striker cuz I

I curse yeah fuck you Cole Striker cuz I I curse yeah fuck you Cole Striker cuz I was staying at my friend Cole's house in was staying at my friend Cole's house in was staying at my friend Cole's house in La yeah fuck you Cole fuck you Cole is La yeah fuck you Cole fuck you Cole is La yeah fuck you Cole fuck you Cole is like one of the biggest hipsters I know like one of the biggest hipsters I know like one of the biggest hipsters I know he's got the the shirts with the Pearl he's got the the shirts with the Pearl he's got the the shirts with the Pearl snaps and everything and I'm staying at snaps and everything and I'm staying at snaps and everything and I'm staying at his house cuz I was doing Rogan and he his house cuz I was doing Rogan and he his house cuz I was doing Rogan and he goes oh have you heard of this wet goes oh have you heard of this wet goes oh have you heard of this wet shaving thing and he goes look this shaving thing and he goes look this shaving thing and he goes look this one's pzo that's like the Italian Granda one's pzo that's like the Italian Granda one's pzo that's like the Italian Granda soap which is also a great one and I soap which is also a great one and I soap which is also a great one and I went down this rabbit hole and I'm like went down this rabbit hole and I'm like went down this rabbit hole and I'm like I don't even know how many how much I don't even know how many how much I don't even know how many how much money I spent on this and it's all money I spent on this and it's all money I spent on this and it's all because of him oh but it's like a happy because of him oh but it's like a happy because of him oh but it's like a happy fuck you like fuck you Cole I love you fuck you like fuck you Cole I love you fuck you like fuck you Cole I love you Cole fuck you thank you yes that's a Cole fuck you thank you yes that's a Cole fuck you thank you yes that's a good idea for a tattoo fuck you good idea for a tattoo fuck you good idea for a tattoo fuck you Cole uh how did do you have advice on Cole uh how did do you have advice on Cole uh how did do you have advice on how to be how to be how to be happy yes there's a lot of loneliness happy yes there's a lot of loneliness happy yes there's a lot of loneliness and sadness in the world uh here I can and sadness in the world uh here I can and sadness in the world uh here I can give a very easy piece of advice that give a very easy piece of advice that give a very easy piece of advice that worked a lot for worked a lot for worked a lot for me instead of telling me instead of telling me instead of telling yourself that you have these ridiculous yourself that you have these ridiculous yourself that you have these ridiculous standards tell yourself I can be standards tell yourself I can be standards tell yourself I can be better right I don't have to be a a better right I don't have to be a a better right I don't have to be a a great writer I could be a better writer great writer I could be a better writer great writer I could be a better writer I don't have to be a great podcaster and I don't have to be a great podcaster and I don't have to be a great podcaster and that will never happen I could be a that will never happen I could be a that will never happen I could be a better podcaster I could be a better better podcaster I could be a better better podcaster I could be a better person I could be a better uh at the gym person I could be a better uh at the gym person I could be a better uh at the gym I could be better with my time and when I could be better with my time and when I could be better with my time and when you regard things in the and especially you regard things in the and especially you regard things in the and especially if you have metrics that you can go by if you have metrics that you can go by if you have metrics that you can go by you know for I I'll run this many miles

you know for I I'll run this many miles you know for I I'll run this many miles a day things you have control over if a day things you have control over if a day things you have control over if you especially as males when you have you especially as males when you have you especially as males when you have this chart and the data is telling you this chart and the data is telling you this chart and the data is telling you you're improving right away it's like you're improving right away it's like you're improving right away it's like you have this sense of accomplishment so you have this sense of accomplishment so you have this sense of accomplishment so I think that is a really great way to uh I think that is a really great way to uh I think that is a really great way to uh uh find and if something is not working uh find and if something is not working uh find and if something is not working in your life let's suppose you don't in your life let's suppose you don't in your life let's suppose you don't have friends right there's the internet have friends right there's the internet have friends right there's the internet how do people make friends try things how do people make friends try things how do people make friends try things out what's the worst that's going to out what's the worst that's going to out what's the worst that's going to happen you're going to blow up in your happen you're going to blow up in your happen you're going to blow up in your face well you're you're you learned face well you're you're you learned face well you're you're you learned something at least don't be afraid of something at least don't be afraid of something at least don't be afraid of making mistakes when I was a kid I was making mistakes when I was a kid I was making mistakes when I was a kid I was so scared of having things under control so scared of having things under control so scared of having things under control so like I would never have to get hit in so like I would never have to get hit in so like I would never have to get hit in the face metaphorically and then I the face metaphorically and then I the face metaphorically and then I realized and you realized this as well realized and you realized this as well realized and you realized this as well well everyone who's important gets hit well everyone who's important gets hit well everyone who's important gets hit in the face look at the president in the face look at the president in the face look at the president whoever the president is it becomes a whoever the president is it becomes a whoever the president is it becomes a matter of being strong enough that you matter of being strong enough that you matter of being strong enough that you could take getting hit in the face so could take getting hit in the face so could take getting hit in the face so that is a big important switch in your that is a big important switch in your that is a big important switch in your thinking yeah there's a Bukowski quote I thinking yeah there's a Bukowski quote I thinking yeah there's a Bukowski quote I wrote wrote wrote down sometimes you climb out of bed in down sometimes you climb out of bed in down sometimes you climb out of bed in the morning and you think I'm not going the morning and you think I'm not going the morning and you think I'm not going to make it but you laugh inside to make it but you laugh inside to make it but you laugh inside remembering all the times you felt that remembering all the times you felt that remembering all the times you felt that way yeah yeah there's a part of me that way yeah yeah there's a part of me that way yeah yeah there's a part of me that that's like that there's some days where that's like that there's some days where that's like that there's some days where I feel like this is the worst day my I feel like this is the worst day my I feel like this is the worst day my life and then like shortly after I think life and then like shortly after I think life and then like shortly after I think like chuckle at that yes just knowing like chuckle at that yes just knowing like chuckle at that yes just knowing the ups and downs of the brain and the the ups and downs of the brain and the the ups and downs of the brain and the mind and life and all that you ever been mind and life and all that you ever been mind and life and all that you ever been depressed yeah of course I'm more depressed yeah of course I'm more depressed yeah of course I'm more anxious than depressed I don't really anxious than depressed I don't really anxious than depressed I don't really get depressed I like yeah but I've been get depressed I like yeah but I've been get depressed I like yeah but I've been depressed like low points yeah but I depressed like low points yeah but I depressed like low points yeah but I think I I distinguish depression between

think I I distinguish depression between think I I distinguish depression between low points right like if things are low points right like if things are low points right like if things are going bad and you feel bad that makes going bad and you feel bad that makes going bad and you feel bad that makes sense but I I when I think of depression sense but I I when I think of depression sense but I I when I think of depression I think of someone who feels bad when I think of someone who feels bad when I think of someone who feels bad when things aren't bad like it's a it's by to things aren't bad like it's a it's by to things aren't bad like it's a it's by to me it's like almost by definition me it's like almost by definition me it's like almost by definition irrational well yeah and there's irrational well yeah and there's irrational well yeah and there's different kinds of I like there there's different kinds of I like there there's different kinds of I like there there's a exhausted kind of depression where a exhausted kind of depression where a exhausted kind of depression where you're not it's not so much sad is you're not it's not so much sad is you're not it's not so much sad is you're not don't want to do anything you you're not don't want to do anything you you're not don't want to do anything you you're you don't want to live you don't you're you don't want to live you don't you're you don't want to live you don't want to what's the yeah what's the point want to what's the yeah what's the point want to what's the yeah what's the point what's the point R yeah um and like an what's the point R yeah um and like an what's the point R yeah um and like an extreme self-critical negativity which extreme self-critical negativity which extreme self-critical negativity which I'm also scared of cuz my brain is I'm also scared of cuz my brain is I'm also scared of cuz my brain is generally very self-critical cuz you're generally very self-critical cuz you're generally very self-critical cuz you're not taking up magnesium do you take re not taking up magnesium do you take re not taking up magnesium do you take re or in the mouth you take a rectly okay or in the mouth you take a rectly okay or in the mouth you take a rectly okay but as for as for the Magnesium you but as for as for the Magnesium you but as for as for the Magnesium you should take it as a pill okay what the should take it as a pill okay what the should take it as a pill okay what the way your mom explained it then is is way of holy crap that's that's I I I'm of holy crap that's that's I I I'm trying to think of anything I'm afraid trying to think of anything I'm afraid trying to think of anything I'm afraid of you know in of you know in of you know in 1984 with the I thought like even just 1984 with the I thought like even just 1984 with the I thought like even just like I I wanted to torture you like I I wanted to torture you like I I wanted to torture you hypothetically well you're well mission hypothetically well you're well mission hypothetically well you're well mission accomplished you know what I mean I mean accomplished you know what I mean I mean accomplished you know what I mean I mean in terms of I'm scared of increasing in terms of I'm scared of increasing in terms of I'm scared of increasing authoritarianism but that's not personal authoritarianism but that's not personal authoritarianism but that's not personal and that's not that's something that I and that's not that's something that I and that's not that's something that I don't think is as much of an imminent

don't think is as much of an imminent don't think is as much of an imminent concern as like let's say in Canada are concern as like let's say in Canada are concern as like let's say in Canada are you scared of death you scared of death you scared of death no you think kamu was scared of death no no you think kamu was scared of death no no you think kamu was scared of death no he just accepted it as it's look I I I he just accepted it as it's look I I I he just accepted it as it's look I I I can I honestly feel like if I died can I honestly feel like if I died can I honestly feel like if I died tomorrow I did pretty good with what I tomorrow I did pretty good with what I tomorrow I did pretty good with what I had like I I think I did things that had like I I think I did things that had like I I think I did things that matter to me I think I moved the needle matter to me I think I moved the needle matter to me I think I moved the needle on things that matter to me I think I've on things that matter to me I think I've on things that matter to me I think I've been a good uh friend to the people I been a good uh friend to the people I been a good uh friend to the people I care about um I've saved a couple of care about um I've saved a couple of care about um I've saved a couple of lives lives lives so I I I can can I I think it's a very so I I I can can I I think it's a very so I I I can can I I think it's a very low bar for someone to be able to go low bar for someone to be able to go low bar for someone to be able to go their grave and say you know I left the their grave and say you know I left the their grave and say you know I left the world a better place than I found it I world a better place than I found it I world a better place than I found it I don't think it's that hard you ever been don't think it's that hard you ever been don't think it's that hard you ever been betrayed oh God yes of course haven't betrayed oh God yes of course haven't betrayed oh God yes of course haven't you not as often as I would have you not as often as I would have you not as often as I would have predicted yeah the Russian upbringing predicted yeah the Russian upbringing predicted yeah the Russian upbringing like it's like expects everyone to be like it's like expects everyone to be like it's like expects everyone to be like just it's a time bomb before the like just it's a time bomb before the like just it's a time bomb before the betray you have been betrayed of course betray you have been betrayed of course betray you have been betrayed of course yeah yeah yeah yeah you value yeah you value yeah you value loyalty I do and I also made it a point loyalty I do and I also made it a point loyalty I do and I also made it a point to not let that to not let that to not let that betrayal color my future interactions betrayal color my future interactions betrayal color my future interactions and regard that as the universal or the and regard that as the universal or the and regard that as the universal or the norm yeah I think that's very important norm yeah I think that's very important norm yeah I think that's very important me me me too and also I feel bad I I I've gotten too and also I feel bad I I I've gotten too and also I feel bad I I I've gotten Lex enough that I feel bad for the Lex enough that I feel bad for the Lex enough that I feel bad for the person who betrayed me because it's just person who betrayed me because it's just person who betrayed me because it's just like they didn't need to do this and at

like they didn't need to do this and at like they didn't need to do this and at some point if you betray someone you some point if you betray someone you some point if you betray someone you know and you know you're not a good know and you know you're not a good know and you know you're not a good person I believe that person I believe that person I believe that yeah like even if you tell yourself yeah like even if you tell yourself yeah like even if you tell yourself this's something I had to do you still this's something I had to do you still this's something I had to do you still know you had to do a bad thing to know you had to do a bad thing to know you had to do a bad thing to someone who didn't deserve it and that's someone who didn't deserve it and that's someone who didn't deserve it and that's a really hard pill to swallow in in my a really hard pill to swallow in in my a really hard pill to swallow in in my situation I still think good thoughts situation I still think good thoughts situation I still think good thoughts and and and empathize with with the people that have empathize with with the people that have empathize with with the people that have done me wrong I don't empathize with done me wrong I don't empathize with done me wrong I don't empathize with them but I sympathize with them but I sympathize with them but I sympathize with them my English is not good enough to them my English is not good enough to them my English is not good enough to know the difference empathizing means know the difference empathizing means know the difference empathizing means you're putting yourself on their shoes you're putting yourself on their shoes you're putting yourself on their shoes sympathizing means you feel uh bad for sympathizing means you feel uh bad for sympathizing means you feel uh bad for them and wish them well yeah I wish them well yeah but I well yeah I wish them well yeah but I don't put myself like I it's it's very don't put myself like I it's it's very don't put myself like I it's it's very hard for me to empathize with someone hard for me to empathize with someone hard for me to empathize with someone who betrays someone that they care about who betrays someone that they care about who betrays someone that they care about because that is something it's not that because that is something it's not that because that is something it's not that just I think I'm such a great person just I think I'm such a great person just I think I'm such a great person it's that I feel guilt very strongly so it's that I feel guilt very strongly so it's that I feel guilt very strongly so if I did that to someone who trusted me if I did that to someone who trusted me if I did that to someone who trusted me I would really it would fuck up my head I would really it would fuck up my head I would really it would fuck up my head for a long for a long for a long time yeah but maybe they were in time yeah but maybe they were in time yeah but maybe they were in pain maybe they were desperate maybe pain maybe they were desperate maybe pain maybe they were desperate maybe back to to the wall they felt that way back to to the wall they felt that way back to to the wall they felt that way sure that's sympathy thing not really an sure that's sympathy thing not really an sure that's sympathy thing not really an empathy thing yeah yeah loyalty is a empathy thing yeah yeah loyalty is a empathy thing yeah yeah loyalty is a fascinating fascinating fascinating thing yes I value trust a lot I know you thing yes I value trust a lot I know you thing yes I value trust a lot I know you do especially because you're in such a do especially because you're in such a do especially because you're in such a public both of us we're you know very public both of us we're you know very public both of us we're you know very public positions you have to be very public positions you have to be very public positions you have to be very careful who you surround yourself with careful who you surround yourself with careful who you surround yourself with it sucks does it well it it sucks

it sucks does it well it it sucks it sucks does it well it it sucks because it's hard to because it's hard to because it's hard to uh I usually just trust everybody that's I usually just trust everybody that's okay that's okay that's okay that's crazy but what's the alternative to be crazy but what's the alternative to be crazy but what's the alternative to be have a filter well I have a filter in have a filter well I have a filter in have a filter well I have a filter in terms of who I interact with okay but terms of who I interact with okay but terms of who I interact with okay but within the you know I see the good in within the you know I see the good in within the you know I see the good in people but then you people but then you people but then you you in the in the very rare instances you in the in the very rare instances you in the in the very rare instances that might turn okay and yeah it just that might turn okay and yeah it just that might turn okay and yeah it just sucks it breaks my heart yeah I hear you sucks it breaks my heart yeah I hear you sucks it breaks my heart yeah I hear you I completely agree I completely agree I completely agree has your heart ever been broken yes love yes I'm just so relaxed right now and yes I'm just so relaxed right now and happy relaxed and happy good this is happy relaxed and happy good this is happy relaxed and happy good this is making me really happy it's so again making me really happy it's so again making me really happy it's so again it's beautiful on like eight different it's beautiful on like eight different it's beautiful on like eight different levels I think that's the deepest thing levels I think that's the deepest thing levels I think that's the deepest thing I'm thankful for it's just how beautiful I'm thankful for it's just how beautiful I'm thankful for it's just how beautiful people are and how beautiful the world people are and how beautiful the world people are and how beautiful the world is I really and people are going to is I really and people are going to is I really and people are going to laugh and I welcome it that's fine I laugh and I welcome it that's fine I laugh and I welcome it that's fine I really sometimes feel like the guy in really sometimes feel like the guy in really sometimes feel like the guy in American Beauty looking at the plastic American Beauty looking at the plastic American Beauty looking at the plastic bag dancing in the wind and he's brought bag dancing in the wind and he's brought bag dancing in the wind and he's brought to tears because of how much beautiful to tears because of how much beautiful to tears because of how much beautiful life is and a lot of people feel they life is and a lot of people feel they life is and a lot of people feel they need to sneer at that scene and and need to sneer at that scene and and need to sneer at that scene and and Ricky Ricky Pitts whatever and I think Ricky Ricky Pitts whatever and I think Ricky Ricky Pitts whatever and I think he's got it exactly right I think he he's got it exactly right I think he he's got it exactly right I think he does

too well in the end you and I will be too well in the end you and I will be both laughing that's exactly and right both laughing that's exactly and right both laughing that's exactly and right and also seeing Beauty where others and also seeing Beauty where others and also seeing Beauty where others people see garbage and I'd rather be the people see garbage and I'd rather be the people see garbage and I'd rather be the person who sees Beauty than the person person who sees Beauty than the person person who sees Beauty than the person who sees who sees who sees garbage garbage garbage yep well when I look at you I see yep well when I look at you I see yep well when I look at you I see beauty when most people see beauty when most people see beauty when most people see garbage and it's really unfair Mr parrot garbage and it's really unfair Mr parrot garbage and it's really unfair Mr parrot that you keep saying that you keep saying that you keep saying that but all jokes aside man I'm really that but all jokes aside man I'm really that but all jokes aside man I'm really grateful for your friendship I'm really grateful for your friendship I'm really grateful for your friendship I'm really grateful for you are as a person thank grateful for you are as a person thank grateful for you are as a person thank you so much for talking today thank you you so much for talking today thank you you so much for talking today thank you so much for talking to me throughout all so much for talking to me throughout all so much for talking to me throughout all these years thank you for being who you these years thank you for being who you these years thank you for being who you are you are are you are are you are welcome thanks for listening to this welcome thanks for listening to this welcome thanks for listening to this conversation with Michael malice to conversation with Michael malice to conversation with Michael malice to support this podcast please check out support this podcast please check out support this podcast please check out our sponsors in the description and now our sponsors in the description and now our sponsors in the description and now let me leave you with some words from let me leave you with some words from let me leave you with some words from Andre Andre Andre guide man cannot discover new oceans guide man cannot discover new oceans guide man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight unless he has the courage to lose sight unless he has the courage to lose sight of the of the of the shore thank you for listening and hope shore thank you for listening and hope shore thank you for listening and hope to see you next