Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism | Lex Fridman Podcast #441

communism makes no sense at all totally communism makes no sense at all totally opposed to human nature it never works opposed to human nature it never works opposed to human nature it never works it always evolves into dictatorship it it always evolves into dictatorship it it always evolves into dictatorship it creates a power vacuum when you say hey creates a power vacuum when you say hey creates a power vacuum when you say hey there's no structure of power here right there's no structure of power here right there's no structure of power here right we're all equal it's a flat line one guy we're all equal it's a flat line one guy we're all equal it's a flat line one guy usually gets up because that's human usually gets up because that's human usually gets up because that's human nature and goes uh I don't think so I nature and goes uh I don't think so I nature and goes uh I don't think so I think if you're going to leave a power think if you're going to leave a power think if you're going to leave a power vacuum I'm going to take that power vacuum I'm going to take that power vacuum I'm going to take that power vacuum corporatism hates competition it vacuum corporatism hates competition it vacuum corporatism hates competition it wants Monopoly and oligopoly power wants Monopoly and oligopoly power wants Monopoly and oligopoly power whereas capitalism loves competition and whereas capitalism loves competition and whereas capitalism loves competition and wants to free markets when mainstream wants to free markets when mainstream wants to free markets when mainstream media has you hooked you got no hope media has you hooked you got no hope media has you hooked you got no hope because you don't have the right because you don't have the right because you don't have the right information you have propaganda you have information you have propaganda you have information you have propaganda you have marketing you don't have real news when marketing you don't have real news when marketing you don't have real news when you're in the online world it's chaotic you're in the online world it's chaotic you're in the online world it's chaotic and don't get me wrong it's got plenty and don't get me wrong it's got plenty and don't get me wrong it's got plenty of downsides right but within that chaos of downsides right but within that chaos of downsides right but within that chaos the truth begins to emerge Trump is a the truth begins to emerge Trump is a the truth begins to emerge Trump is a massive risk because of all the things massive risk because of all the things massive risk because of all the things we talked about earlier but there is a we talked about earlier but there is a we talked about earlier but there is a percentage chance that he's such a wild percentage chance that he's such a wild percentage chance that he's such a wild card that he overturns the whole system card that he overturns the whole system card that he overturns the whole system and that is why the establishment is a and that is why the establishment is a and that is why the establishment is a little scared of little scared of little scared of him the following is a conversation with him the following is a conversation with him the following is a conversation with Jen yuger a progressive political Jen yuger a progressive political Jen yuger a progressive political commentator and host of The Young Turks commentator and host of The Young Turks commentator and host of The Young Turks as I've said before I will speak with as I've said before I will speak with as I've said before I will speak with everyone including on the left and the everyone including on the left and the everyone including on the left and the right of the political Spectrum always right of the political Spectrum always right of the political Spectrum always in good faith with empathy rigor and in good faith with empathy rigor and in good faith with empathy rigor and backbone sometimes I backbone sometimes I backbone sometimes I fail sometimes I say stupid inaccurate

fail sometimes I say stupid inaccurate fail sometimes I say stupid inaccurate ineloquent things and I frequently ineloquent things and I frequently ineloquent things and I frequently change my mind as I'm learning and change my mind as I'm learning and change my mind as I'm learning and thinking about the world for all this I thinking about the world for all this I thinking about the world for all this I often get attacked sometimes fairly often get attacked sometimes fairly often get attacked sometimes fairly sometimes not but just know that I'm sometimes not but just know that I'm sometimes not but just know that I'm aware when I fall short and I will keep aware when I fall short and I will keep aware when I fall short and I will keep trying to do better I love you all this trying to do better I love you all this trying to do better I love you all this is Alex Freedman podcast to support it is Alex Freedman podcast to support it is Alex Freedman podcast to support it please check out our sponsors in the please check out our sponsors in the please check out our sponsors in the description and now dear friends here's description and now dear friends here's description and now dear friends here's Jen Jen Jen yuger you wrote a book yeah a Manifesto yuger you wrote a book yeah a Manifesto yuger you wrote a book yeah a Manifesto that outlines the progressive vision for that outlines the progressive vision for that outlines the progressive vision for America so the big question what are America so the big question what are America so the big question what are some defining ideas of some defining ideas of some defining ideas of progressivism yes so in order to do that progressivism yes so in order to do that progressivism yes so in order to do that Lex we got to uh talk about where we are Lex we got to uh talk about where we are Lex we got to uh talk about where we are in the political spectrum and uh in fact in the political spectrum and uh in fact in the political spectrum and uh in fact there's two different uh spectrums now there's two different uh spectrums now there's two different uh spectrums now people often think of left right uh and people often think of left right uh and people often think of left right uh and that's true that exists but layered on that's true that exists but layered on that's true that exists but layered on top of that is now populist versus top of that is now populist versus top of that is now populist versus establishment establishment establishment so I'm Center left on the Left Right so I'm Center left on the Left Right so I'm Center left on the Left Right Spectrum um but I'm all the way on the Spectrum um but I'm all the way on the Spectrum um but I'm all the way on the populist end of of the second Spectrum populist end of of the second Spectrum populist end of of the second Spectrum so where does progressivism lie within so where does progressivism lie within so where does progressivism lie within that well uh I would argue that it's that well uh I would argue that it's that well uh I would argue that it's exactly in those places it's populist uh exactly in those places it's populist uh exactly in those places it's populist uh and it's on the left but it is not and it's on the left but it is not and it's on the left but it is not far-left so far-left is a different far-left so far-left is a different far-left so far-left is a different animal and we could talk about that in a animal and we could talk about that in a animal and we could talk about that in a little bit so so in terms of what makes little bit so so in terms of what makes little bit so so in terms of what makes a progressive so expand the circle of

a progressive so expand the circle of a progressive so expand the circle of Liberty and uh justice for all and Liberty and uh justice for all and Liberty and uh justice for all and equality of opportunity now people will equality of opportunity now people will equality of opportunity now people will say well that seems pretty Broad and say well that seems pretty Broad and say well that seems pretty Broad and All-American but is it think about it so All-American but is it think about it so All-American but is it think about it so expand the circle of Liberty uh expand the circle of Liberty uh expand the circle of Liberty uh everybody's in favor of that right no everybody's in favor of that right no everybody's in favor of that right no absolutely not so uh certainly the king absolutely not so uh certainly the king absolutely not so uh certainly the king of England was not in favor of expanding of England was not in favor of expanding of England was not in favor of expanding the circle of Liberty and the founding the circle of Liberty and the founding the circle of Liberty and the founding fathers said we're going to expand it fathers said we're going to expand it fathers said we're going to expand it and they expanded it to propertied white and they expanded it to propertied white and they expanded it to propertied white men and then progressives have been men and then progressives have been men and then progressives have been they're progressives because they they're progressives because they they're progressives because they expanded the circle of Liberty they then expanded the circle of Liberty they then expanded the circle of Liberty they then from then on as we're perfecting the from then on as we're perfecting the from then on as we're perfecting the union progressives always say expand it union progressives always say expand it union progressives always say expand it further include women include people further include women include people further include women include people without property include all Races and without property include all Races and without property include all Races and at every turn conservatives fight at every turn conservatives fight at every turn conservatives fight against it so that doesn't mean if against it so that doesn't mean if against it so that doesn't mean if you're conservative today you don't want you're conservative today you don't want you're conservative today you don't want to include women or uh minorities Etc to include women or uh minorities Etc to include women or uh minorities Etc but but today you would say for example but but today you would say for example but but today you would say for example well I don't want to expand the circle well I don't want to expand the circle well I don't want to expand the circle of Liberty to for example undocumented of Liberty to for example undocumented of Liberty to for example undocumented immigrants and maybe you're right about immigrants and maybe you're right about immigrants and maybe you're right about that and we could have that discussion that and we could have that discussion that and we could have that discussion in terms of a specific philosophy and I in terms of a specific philosophy and I in terms of a specific philosophy and I don't believe that undocumented don't believe that undocumented don't believe that undocumented immigrants should immediately be immigrants should immediately be immigrants should immediately be citizens or anything along those lines citizens or anything along those lines citizens or anything along those lines but I do believe in expanding Liberty but I do believe in expanding Liberty but I do believe in expanding Liberty overall and the Contour of that are overall and the Contour of that are overall and the Contour of that are what's interesting and then you say what's interesting and then you say what's interesting and then you say justice for all everybody's for just no justice for all everybody's for just no justice for all everybody's for just no right now marijuana possession is still right now marijuana possession is still right now marijuana possession is still illegal in a lot of parts of the uh illegal in a lot of parts of the uh illegal in a lot of parts of the uh country now a lot of right- wiers and country now a lot of right- wiers and country now a lot of right- wiers and left Wingers agree that it should be left Wingers agree that it should be left Wingers agree that it should be legal but for for my entire lifetime uh legal but for for my entire lifetime uh legal but for for my entire lifetime uh black people have been arrested at about black people have been arrested at about black people have been arrested at about 3.7 times the rate of white people and

3.7 times the rate of white people and 3.7 times the rate of white people and the entire country has been fine with it the entire country has been fine with it the entire country has been fine with it so is that Justice no they smoke white so is that Justice no they smoke white so is that Justice no they smoke white people black people smoke marijuana at people black people smoke marijuana at people black people smoke marijuana at the same rate black people get arrested the same rate black people get arrested the same rate black people get arrested about four times the rate that is an about four times the rate that is an about four times the rate that is an injustice that an enormous percentage of injustice that an enormous percentage of injustice that an enormous percentage of the country was comfortable with well the country was comfortable with well the country was comfortable with well progressives aren't comfortable with it progressives aren't comfortable with it progressives aren't comfortable with it we want justice for all so the equality we want justice for all so the equality we want justice for all so the equality of opportunity is an interesting one of opportunity is an interesting one of opportunity is an interesting one because the farle will say because the farle will say because the farle will say at least some portions of them will say at least some portions of them will say at least some portions of them will say equality of results right so equality of results right so equality of results right so progressives just want a fair chance so progressives just want a fair chance so progressives just want a fair chance so free college education but afterwards free college education but afterwards free college education but afterwards you don't get to have exact same results you don't get to have exact same results you don't get to have exact same results as either the wealthiest person or we're as either the wealthiest person or we're as either the wealthiest person or we're not all going to be equal we don't have not all going to be equal we don't have not all going to be equal we don't have equal talents skills abilities Etc equal talents skills abilities Etc equal talents skills abilities Etc there's a lot of questions I can ask there's a lot of questions I can ask there's a lot of questions I can ask there so on the circle of Liberty yes so there so on the circle of Liberty yes so there so on the circle of Liberty yes so expanding the number of people whose expanding the number of people whose expanding the number of people whose freedoms are protected but what about freedoms are protected but what about freedoms are protected but what about the magnitude of freedom for each the magnitude of freedom for each the magnitude of freedom for each individual person so uh expanding the individual person so uh expanding the individual person so uh expanding the freedom of the individual and protecting freedom of the individual and protecting freedom of the individual and protecting the freedom as an individual it seems the freedom as an individual it seems the freedom as an individual it seems like progressives are more willing to like progressives are more willing to like progressives are more willing to expand the size of government where expand the size of government where expand the size of government where government can do all kinds of government can do all kinds of government can do all kinds of Regulation all kinds of controls on the Regulation all kinds of controls on the Regulation all kinds of controls on the individual so Lex what we're probably individual so Lex what we're probably individual so Lex what we're probably going to talk about a lot today is going to talk about a lot today is going to talk about a lot today is balance and so a lot of people think oh balance and so a lot of people think oh balance and so a lot of people think oh I I'm on the right I'm on the left and I I'm on the right I'm on the left and I I'm on the right I'm on the left and that comes with a certain preset that comes with a certain preset that comes with a certain preset ideology so the right is always correct ideology so the right is always correct ideology so the right is always correct the left is always correct so there's the left is always correct so there's the left is always correct so there's two problems with that number one how

two problems with that number one how two problems with that number one how could you possibly believe in a preset could you possibly believe in a preset could you possibly believe in a preset ideology if you're an independent ideology if you're an independent ideology if you're an independent thinker it's literally by definition not thinker it's literally by definition not thinker it's literally by definition not possible if you say I lent my brain to possible if you say I lent my brain to possible if you say I lent my brain to an ideology that was created 80 years an ideology that was created 80 years an ideology that was created 80 years ago or 8 years ago or 800 years ago and ago or 8 years ago or 800 years ago and ago or 8 years ago or 800 years ago and I'm not going to change it you're saying I'm not going to change it you're saying I'm not going to change it you're saying I don't think for myself I you know I I don't think for myself I you know I I don't think for myself I you know I bought into a culture and by the way bought into a culture and by the way bought into a culture and by the way there's a lot of different forms of there's a lot of different forms of there's a lot of different forms of culture you could buy into religion culture you could buy into religion culture you could buy into religion politics sometimes uh racial Etc so politics sometimes uh racial Etc so politics sometimes uh racial Etc so that's why you need actually balance the that's why you need actually balance the that's why you need actually balance the second reason you need balance other second reason you need balance other second reason you need balance other than independent thought is because the than independent thought is because the than independent thought is because the answer is almost never black and white answer is almost never black and white answer is almost never black and white and that gets into a really interesting and that gets into a really interesting and that gets into a really interesting Nuance because Mainstreet media in my Nuance because Mainstreet media in my Nuance because Mainstreet media in my opinion is the Matrix and its job is to opinion is the Matrix and its job is to opinion is the Matrix and its job is to delude you into thinking corporate rule delude you into thinking corporate rule delude you into thinking corporate rule is great for you and we should never is great for you and we should never is great for you and we should never change it and the status quo is change it and the status quo is change it and the status quo is wonderful so they have created a false wonderful so they have created a false wonderful so they have created a false middle what mainstream media calls middle what mainstream media calls middle what mainstream media calls moderate is actually in my opinion moderate is actually in my opinion moderate is actually in my opinion extremist corporate ideology so for extremist corporate ideology so for extremist corporate ideology so for example they'll say Joe Mansion is a example they'll say Joe Mansion is a example they'll say Joe Mansion is a moderate none of his positions are moderate none of his positions are moderate none of his positions are moderate other than potentially gun moderate other than potentially gun moderate other than potentially gun control in West Virginia he's not for control in West Virginia he's not for control in West Virginia he's not for gun control the people of West Virginia gun control the people of West Virginia gun control the people of West Virginia are not for gun control generally are not for gun control generally are not for gun control generally speaking so and he uses that and they speaking so and he uses that and they speaking so and he uses that and they usually have these shiny objects where usually have these shiny objects where usually have these shiny objects where they're like you see this I'm a moderate they're like you see this I'm a moderate they're like you see this I'm a moderate because of guns or I'm a moderate because of guns or I'm a moderate because of guns or I'm a moderate because I'm a Democrat from West because I'm a Democrat from West because I'm a Democrat from West Virginia but wait let's look at your Virginia but wait let's look at your Virginia but wait let's look at your positions you're against paid family

positions you're against paid family positions you're against paid family leave that pulls at 84% so you're a leave that pulls at 84% so you're a leave that pulls at 84% so you're a radical corporatist who say that women radical corporatist who say that women radical corporatist who say that women should be forced back in work the day should be forced back in work the day should be forced back in work the day after they have birth you're against the after they have birth you're against the after they have birth you're against the higher minimum wage you're against higher minimum wage you're against higher minimum wage you're against you're for every corporate position and you're for every corporate position and you're for every corporate position and they all PLL at 33% or less so Joe they all PLL at 33% or less so Joe they all PLL at 33% or less so Joe Mansion is not all a moderate and this Mansion is not all a moderate and this Mansion is not all a moderate and this applies to almost every corporate applies to almost every corporate applies to almost every corporate Republican and every corporate Democrat Republican and every corporate Democrat Republican and every corporate Democrat they're all extremists in in supporting they're all extremists in in supporting they're all extremists in in supporting what I call corporatism so you have to what I call corporatism so you have to what I call corporatism so you have to get to a balance in order to get to the get to a balance in order to get to the get to a balance in order to get to the right answer so that's an interesting right answer so that's an interesting right answer so that's an interesting distinction here so you're actually as distinction here so you're actually as distinction here so you're actually as far as I understand Pro capitalism yes far as I understand Pro capitalism yes far as I understand Pro capitalism yes which is an interesting place to be which is an interesting place to be which is an interesting place to be that's the thing that probably makes you that's the thing that probably makes you that's the thing that probably makes you Center left and then still populist Center left and then still populist Center left and then still populist you're you're full of uh beautiful you're you're full of uh beautiful you're you're full of uh beautiful contradictions that say this which will contradictions that say this which will contradictions that say this which will be great to untangle but what what's the be great to untangle but what what's the be great to untangle but what what's the difference between corporatism and difference between corporatism and difference between corporatism and capitalism is there a difference yeah capitalism is there a difference yeah capitalism is there a difference yeah so I I really believe in capitalism I I so I I really believe in capitalism I I so I I really believe in capitalism I I don't think that there's really a second don't think that there's really a second don't think that there's really a second choice um the in where it gets super choice um the in where it gets super choice um the in where it gets super interesting is the distinction between interesting is the distinction between interesting is the distinction between capitalism and socialism because that's capitalism and socialism because that's capitalism and socialism because that's not at all as clear as people think it not at all as clear as people think it not at all as clear as people think it is and people often say socialism and is and people often say socialism and is and people often say socialism and communism as synonms when they're not communism as synonms when they're not communism as synonms when they're not synonyms right and so I view it as synonyms right and so I view it as synonyms right and so I view it as there's basically four uh distinct areas there's basically four uh distinct areas there's basically four uh distinct areas it's obviously a spectrum everything is it's obviously a spectrum everything is it's obviously a spectrum everything is a spectrum right on one end you have a spectrum right on one end you have a spectrum right on one end you have communism on the left and on the other communism on the left and on the other communism on the left and on the other end you have corporatism on the right

end you have corporatism on the right end you have corporatism on the right okay and I would argue that capitalism okay and I would argue that capitalism okay and I would argue that capitalism is in the middle and so communism we is in the middle and so communism we is in the middle and so communism we know uh State owns all property you're know uh State owns all property you're know uh State owns all property you're not allowed to have private property so not allowed to have private property so not allowed to have private property so I will piss off a lot of people in this I will piss off a lot of people in this I will piss off a lot of people in this show and so I'm asking for their show and so I'm asking for their show and so I'm asking for their patience please hear me out and because patience please hear me out and because patience please hear me out and because don't worry I'm going to piss off the don't worry I'm going to piss off the don't worry I'm going to piss off the other side too okay so communism makes other side too okay so communism makes other side too okay so communism makes no sense at all totally opposed to human no sense at all totally opposed to human no sense at all totally opposed to human nature it never works it always evolves nature it never works it always evolves nature it never works it always evolves into dictatorship because it is not into dictatorship because it is not into dictatorship because it is not built for human nature it we're never built for human nature it we're never built for human nature it we're never going to act like that it's not in our going to act like that it's not in our going to act like that it's not in our DNA you could try to wish it into DNA you could try to wish it into DNA you could try to wish it into existence and they have and it never existence and they have and it never existence and they have and it never works and it's because once you have works and it's because once you have works and it's because once you have almost no rules in terms of uh oh all almost no rules in terms of uh oh all almost no rules in terms of uh oh all equal and even though communism equal and even though communism equal and even though communism eventually winds up having an enormous eventually winds up having an enormous eventually winds up having an enormous amount of rules right uh it creates a amount of rules right uh it creates a amount of rules right uh it creates a power vacuum when you say hey there's no power vacuum when you say hey there's no power vacuum when you say hey there's no structure of power here right we're all structure of power here right we're all structure of power here right we're all equal it's a flat line one guy usually equal it's a flat line one guy usually equal it's a flat line one guy usually gets up because that's human nature and gets up because that's human nature and gets up because that's human nature and goes uh I don't think so I think if goes uh I don't think so I think if goes uh I don't think so I think if you're going to leave a power vacuum I'm you're going to leave a power vacuum I'm you're going to leave a power vacuum I'm going to take that power vacuum that's going to take that power vacuum that's going to take that power vacuum that's actually a really interesting way to put actually a really interesting way to put actually a really interesting way to put it because when everyone is equal nobody it because when everyone is equal nobody it because when everyone is equal nobody is in power and human nature is such is in power and human nature is such is in power and human nature is such that there's everybody's there's a Will that there's everybody's there's a Will that there's everybody's there's a Will To Power so when you create a power To Power so when you create a power To Power so when you create a power vacuum somebody's going to to fill it so vacuum somebody's going to to fill it so vacuum somebody's going to to fill it so the alternative is to have people in

the alternative is to have people in the alternative is to have people in power but there's a balance of power and power but there's a balance of power and power but there's a balance of power and then there's like a democratic system then there's like a democratic system then there's like a democratic system that elects the people in power and that elects the people in power and that elects the people in power and keeps churning and rotating who's inv keeps churning and rotating who's inv keeps churning and rotating who's inv that is exactly it Lex you got it that is exactly it Lex you got it that is exactly it Lex you got it exactly right in my opinion okay so exactly right in my opinion okay so exactly right in my opinion okay so that's why communism never works and can that's why communism never works and can that's why communism never works and can never work so they it it's an idea of never work so they it it's an idea of never work so they it it's an idea of like we're all going to work as hard as like we're all going to work as hard as like we're all going to work as hard as we possibly can and take only what we we possibly can and take only what we we possibly can and take only what we need where when when has that ever need where when when has that ever need where when when has that ever happened in the history of humanity happened in the history of humanity happened in the history of humanity right we're just not built that way so right we're just not built that way so right we're just not built that way so okay we can get into that debate with my okay we can get into that debate with my okay we can get into that debate with my friends on the left Etc now corporatism friends on the left Etc now corporatism friends on the left Etc now corporatism is just as extreme and just as dangerous is just as extreme and just as dangerous is just as extreme and just as dangerous and that is basically what we have in and that is basically what we have in and that is basically what we have in America now what we have in America now America now what we have in America now America now what we have in America now and this is another giant trick that the and this is another giant trick that the and this is another giant trick that the Matrix played on everybody that they Matrix played on everybody that they Matrix played on everybody that they they did a shell game and all of a they did a shell game and all of a they did a shell game and all of a sudden extreme corpor like mansion and sudden extreme corpor like mansion and sudden extreme corpor like mansion and almost every Republican in the Senate almost every Republican in the Senate almost every Republican in the Senate are moderates oh my God Mitch McConnell are moderates oh my God Mitch McConnell are moderates oh my God Mitch McConnell all of a sudden is a moderate and uh Etc all of a sudden is a moderate and uh Etc all of a sudden is a moderate and uh Etc as long as you're not a populist as long as you're not a populist as long as you're not a populist populists are never moderate okay but if populists are never moderate okay but if populists are never moderate okay but if you love corporations and corporate tax you love corporations and corporate tax you love corporations and corporate tax cuts and everything in favor of cuts and everything in favor of cuts and everything in favor of Corporations you're magically called a Corporations you're magically called a Corporations you're magically called a moderate when you actually according to moderate when you actually according to moderate when you actually according to the polling have super extreme positions the polling have super extreme positions the polling have super extreme positions that the American people hate and by the that the American people hate and by the that the American people hate and by the way that's part of the reason for the way that's part of the reason for the way that's part of the reason for the rise of trump we can come back to that rise of trump we can come back to that rise of trump we can come back to that okay okay but the second shell game is okay okay but the second shell game is okay okay but the second shell game is taking out capitalism putting in taking out capitalism putting in taking out capitalism putting in corporatism but still calling it corporatism but still calling it corporatism but still calling it capitalism okay so what is corporatism capitalism okay so what is corporatism capitalism okay so what is corporatism it is when uh corporations slowly take

it is when uh corporations slowly take it is when uh corporations slowly take over the system and create Monopoly and over the system and create Monopoly and over the system and create Monopoly and oligopoly power so that snuffs out oligopoly power so that snuffs out oligopoly power so that snuffs out equality of opportunity so how do they equality of opportunity so how do they equality of opportunity so how do they do that H when people say the the system do that H when people say the the system do that H when people say the the system is is is rigged they oftentimes can't explain it rigged they oftentimes can't explain it rigged they oftentimes can't explain it that well and then mainstream media goes that well and then mainstream media goes that well and then mainstream media goes you sound you sound you sound conspiratorial rigged yeah I wonder how conspiratorial rigged yeah I wonder how conspiratorial rigged yeah I wonder how yeah super easy to explain it here's one yeah super easy to explain it here's one yeah super easy to explain it here's one of dozens of examples carried interest of dozens of examples carried interest of dozens of examples carried interest loophole so that is for hedge funds loophole so that is for hedge funds loophole so that is for hedge funds private Equity the the top people on private Equity the the top people on private Equity the the top people on Wall Street they that's part of their Wall Street they that's part of their Wall Street they that's part of their income they get 2 and 20 right so 2% is income they get 2 and 20 right so 2% is income they get 2 and 20 right so 2% is a flat fee no matter what happens to the a flat fee no matter what happens to the a flat fee no matter what happens to the fund and 20% of the profits of the fund fund and 20% of the profits of the fund fund and 20% of the profits of the fund goes back to the people who invested it goes back to the people who invested it goes back to the people who invested it it's not their money it's not their it's not their money it's not their it's not their money it's not their investment uh what they're getting is investment uh what they're getting is investment uh what they're getting is actually just income and should be taxed actually just income and should be taxed actually just income and should be taxed at the highest rate but it's because of at the highest rate but it's because of at the highest rate but it's because of this loophole it's taxed at a much lower this loophole it's taxed at a much lower this loophole it's taxed at a much lower rate at around 20% so do you know at rate at around 20% so do you know at rate at around 20% so do you know at what income level you go above 20% if what income level you go above 20% if what income level you go above 20% if you're a regular Joe it's at $84,000 a you're a regular Joe it's at $84,000 a you're a regular Joe it's at $84,000 a year so these billionaires are getting year so these billionaires are getting year so these billionaires are getting the same tax rate as people making the same tax rate as people making the same tax rate as people making $84,000 a year it's unbel believably $84,000 a year it's unbel believably $84,000 a year it's unbel believably unfair uh and that's corporatism taking unfair uh and that's corporatism taking unfair uh and that's corporatism taking over and starting to rig the rules I'm over and starting to rig the rules I'm over and starting to rig the rules I'm going to pay less taxes you're going to going to pay less taxes you're going to going to pay less taxes you're going to pay more taxes okay so again I can give pay more taxes okay so again I can give pay more taxes okay so again I can give you dozens of those examples so and you dozens of those examples so and you dozens of those examples so and mergers so that they get to oligopoly

mergers so that they get to oligopoly mergers so that they get to oligopoly power that's how you rig a system power that's how you rig a system power that's how you rig a system lowering the corporate tax rates making lowering the corporate tax rates making lowering the corporate tax rates making sure that there is no real minimum wage sure that there is no real minimum wage sure that there is no real minimum wage making sure there's no Universal Health making sure there's no Universal Health making sure there's no Universal Health Care we all get become indentured Care we all get become indentured Care we all get become indentured servants of Corporations they take away servants of Corporations they take away servants of Corporations they take away power from the average guy give it to power from the average guy give it to power from the average guy give it to the most powerful people in the world so the most powerful people in the world so the most powerful people in the world so and but the most important distinction and but the most important distinction and but the most important distinction Le is that corporatism hates competition Le is that corporatism hates competition Le is that corporatism hates competition it wants Monopoly and oligopoly power it wants Monopoly and oligopoly power it wants Monopoly and oligopoly power whereas capitalism loves competition and whereas capitalism loves competition and whereas capitalism loves competition and wants the free markets and I remember uh wants the free markets and I remember uh wants the free markets and I remember uh you know we started Young Turks back in you know we started Young Turks back in you know we started Young Turks back in 2002 so we've been around for 22 years 2002 so we've been around for 22 years 2002 so we've been around for 22 years longest running Daily Show on the longest running Daily Show on the longest running Daily Show on the internet ever uh and so we were be pre- internet ever uh and so we were be pre- internet ever uh and so we were be pre- Iraq War and Iraq war stars and Dick Iraq War and Iraq war stars and Dick Iraq War and Iraq war stars and Dick Cheney starts handing out no bid Cheney starts handing out no bid Cheney starts handing out no bid contracts I'm like what part of contracts I'm like what part of contracts I'm like what part of capitalism is a no bid contract you capitalism is a no bid contract you capitalism is a no bid contract you can't negotiate drug can't negotiate drug can't negotiate drug prices the most anti-free Market thing I prices the most anti-free Market thing I prices the most anti-free Market thing I have ever heard it's almost like have ever heard it's almost like have ever heard it's almost like communism for corporations they get communism for corporations they get communism for corporations they get everything you they're it and there you everything you they're it and there you everything you they're it and there you get nothing right so it's it's get nothing right so it's it's get nothing right so it's it's Preposterous it's awful and and it kills Preposterous it's awful and and it kills Preposterous it's awful and and it kills the free markets and it's killing the the free markets and it's killing the the free markets and it's killing the this country and it is the main ideology this country and it is the main ideology this country and it is the main ideology and religion of the establish are all and religion of the establish are all and religion of the establish are all companies built the same here so when companies built the same here so when companies built the same here so when you say you say you say corporatism uh it seems like just corporatism uh it seems like just corporatism uh it seems like just looking here at the list of uh by

looking here at the list of uh by looking here at the list of uh by industry uh lobbyists it seems like industry uh lobbyists it seems like industry uh lobbyists it seems like there are certain industries that are there are certain industries that are there are certain industries that are worse offenders than others like worse offenders than others like worse offenders than others like Pharmaceuticals uh like Insurance oil Pharmaceuticals uh like Insurance oil Pharmaceuticals uh like Insurance oil and gas yeah so it seems to me and gas yeah so it seems to me and gas yeah so it seems to me it feels wrong to just throw all it feels wrong to just throw all it feels wrong to just throw all companies into the same bucket of like companies into the same bucket of like companies into the same bucket of like they're all guilty no they're not all they're all guilty no they're not all they're all guilty no they're not all guilty so let's make a bunch of guilty so let's make a bunch of guilty so let's make a bunch of distinctions here so first of all uh can distinctions here so first of all uh can distinctions here so first of all uh can you first of all are they quote unquote you first of all are they quote unquote you first of all are they quote unquote guilty no they're doing something that guilty no they're doing something that guilty no they're doing something that is logical and natural right so if your is logical and natural right so if your is logical and natural right so if your a company do you want to pay higher a company do you want to pay higher a company do you want to pay higher taxes or lower taxes of course you want taxes or lower taxes of course you want taxes or lower taxes of course you want to pay lower taxes right do you want to to pay lower taxes right do you want to to pay lower taxes right do you want to have higher employee costs or lower have higher employee costs or lower have higher employee costs or lower employee costs of course you want lower employee costs of course you want lower employee costs of course you want lower employee costs right so but the employee costs right so but the employee costs right so but the government needs to understand that and government needs to understand that and government needs to understand that and protect us from that power that they are protect us from that power that they are protect us from that power that they are going to exercise to get to those going to exercise to get to those going to exercise to get to those results and if you if you think free results and if you if you think free results and if you if you think free markets is there is no government you markets is there is no government you markets is there is no government you you read it wrong go re go back and you read it wrong go re go back and you read it wrong go re go back and reread Adam Smith he says You must reread Adam Smith he says You must reread Adam Smith he says You must protect against Monopoly power if you do protect against Monopoly power if you do protect against Monopoly power if you do not protect against Monopoly power you not protect against Monopoly power you not protect against Monopoly power you will have no free markets and he's will have no free markets and he's will have no free markets and he's absolutely right so second distinction absolutely right so second distinction absolutely right so second distinction is between small business in big is between small business in big is between small business in big business that's why Republicans will business that's why Republicans will business that's why Republicans will always be like oh we're doing this for always be like oh we're doing this for always be like oh we're doing this for small business that's why we got the small business that's why we got the small business that's why we got the biggest oil companies in the world $30 biggest oil companies in the world $30 biggest oil companies in the world $30 billion in subsidies what happened to billion in subsidies what happened to billion in subsidies what happened to small business right so I run a small small business right so I run a small small business right so I run a small business and so if people were to say

business and so if people were to say business and so if people were to say like hey uh maybe there should be like hey uh maybe there should be like hey uh maybe there should be exemptions for some of the regulations exemptions for some of the regulations exemptions for some of the regulations if your company has less than five if your company has less than five if your company has less than five employees 10 employees 50 employees Etc employees 10 employees 50 employees Etc employees 10 employees 50 employees Etc there's some logic in that because there's some logic in that because there's some logic in that because businesses have different stages of businesses have different stages of businesses have different stages of growth and they have different interests growth and they have different interests growth and they have different interests and different needs in those stages of and different needs in those stages of and different needs in those stages of growth and we want to facilitate small growth and we want to facilitate small growth and we want to facilitate small business growth because that's great for business growth because that's great for business growth because that's great for the economy that's great for uh markets the economy that's great for uh markets the economy that's great for uh markets Freedom Etc but the bigger corporations Freedom Etc but the bigger corporations Freedom Etc but the bigger corporations even there there's a third distinction even there there's a third distinction even there there's a third distinction it isn't that there's certain industries it isn't that there's certain industries it isn't that there's certain industries that are worse there's just that there that are worse there's just that there that are worse there's just that there are industries that are better at are industries that are better at are industries that are better at lobbying so anyone who like right now lobbying so anyone who like right now lobbying so anyone who like right now number one donor in Washington a lot of number one donor in Washington a lot of number one donor in Washington a lot of people make a mistake they think it's people make a mistake they think it's people make a mistake they think it's APAC or they think it's the oil company APAC or they think it's the oil company APAC or they think it's the oil company companies or the banks no it's big companies or the banks no it's big companies or the banks no it's big Pharma okay and who has the most power Pharma okay and who has the most power Pharma okay and who has the most power in this country big Pharma so we can't in this country big Pharma so we can't in this country big Pharma so we can't even negotiate the drug prices I mean even negotiate the drug prices I mean even negotiate the drug prices I mean look guys think about it this way that's look guys think about it this way that's look guys think about it this way that's like saying okay here's a bottle of like saying okay here's a bottle of like saying okay here's a bottle of water and normally in the free market water and normally in the free market water and normally in the free market that would cost about a dollar right and that would cost about a dollar right and that would cost about a dollar right and in the uh for Medicare the drug in the uh for Medicare the drug in the uh for Medicare the drug companies come in and go no I'm not companies come in and go no I'm not companies come in and go no I'm not charging a dollar for that water I'm charging a dollar for that water I'm charging a dollar for that water I'm charging $100 and the government has to charging $100 and the government has to charging $100 and the government has to say yes sir thank you sir of course sir say yes sir thank you sir of course sir say yes sir thank you sir of course sir we'll pay $100 we'll pay $100 we'll pay $100 that's the that's that's why compared to that's the that's that's why compared to that's the that's that's why compared to communism because I can't imagine communism because I can't imagine communism because I can't imagine anything more diametrically opposed to anything more diametrically opposed to anything more diametrically opposed to the free market then you the consumer the free market then you the consumer the free market then you the consumer have to pay whatever the hell a have to pay whatever the hell a have to pay whatever the hell a corporation charges that's Insanity let corporation charges that's Insanity let corporation charges that's Insanity let alone the patents let alone the fact

alone the patents let alone the fact alone the patents let alone the fact that the American people pay for the that the American people pay for the that the American people pay for the research and then they make billions of research and then they make billions of research and then they make billions of dollars off of it and we get nothing but dollars off of it and we get nothing but dollars off of it and we get nothing but robbed by them so it's about Lobby power robbed by them so it's about Lobby power robbed by them so it's about Lobby power oil companies have huge Lobby Power oil companies have huge Lobby Power oil companies have huge Lobby Power Defense contractors hu have huge Lobby Defense contractors hu have huge Lobby Defense contractors hu have huge Lobby power it's not that they're more evil power it's not that they're more evil power it's not that they're more evil it's just that they have figured out the it's just that they have figured out the it's just that they have figured out the game better and they have basically game better and they have basically game better and they have basically taken the influence they need to capture taken the influence they need to capture taken the influence they need to capture the market capture the government and the market capture the government and the market capture the government and and snuff out all competition well or a and snuff out all competition well or a and snuff out all competition well or a lot of comp uh figured out the game lot of comp uh figured out the game lot of comp uh figured out the game better so I think a lot of better so I think a lot of better so I think a lot of companies are good at companies are good at companies are good at winning the right way by building better winning the right way by building better winning the right way by building better products by um you know making people products by um you know making people products by um you know making people happier with the work they're they're happier with the work they're they're happier with the work they're they're doing and when at the game of capitalism doing and when at the game of capitalism doing and when at the game of capitalism and then there's other companies that and then there's other companies that and then there's other companies that win at the game of lobbying and I just win at the game of lobbying and I just win at the game of lobbying and I just want to sort of draw that distinction want to sort of draw that distinction want to sort of draw that distinction because I think it's a small subset of because I think it's a small subset of because I think it's a small subset of companies that are playing the game of companies that are playing the game of companies that are playing the game of lobbying it's a big Pharma so Lex I lobbying it's a big Pharma so Lex I lobbying it's a big Pharma so Lex I first of all you have to set rules for first of all you have to set rules for first of all you have to set rules for what makes sense not oh I don't like what makes sense not oh I don't like what makes sense not oh I don't like this industry or I don't like this this industry or I don't like this this industry or I don't like this company or hey this company is not doing company or hey this company is not doing company or hey this company is not doing that much lobbying at this point they that much lobbying at this point they that much lobbying at this point they will later when they realize what's will later when they realize what's will later when they realize what's going on so for example in my opinion going on so for example in my opinion going on so for example in my opinion APAC has totally bought almost all of APAC has totally bought almost all of APAC has totally bought almost all of Congress Congress Congress and so now other countries are going to and so now other countries are going to and so now other countries are going to wake up and go wait you could just buy wake up and go wait you could just buy wake up and go wait you could just buy the American government so APAC is going the American government so APAC is going the American government so APAC is going to spend about a100 million in this to spend about a100 million in this to spend about a100 million in this cycle and they're going to and then cycle and they're going to and then cycle and they're going to and then they're getting 26 billion back so every they're getting 26 billion back so every they're getting 26 billion back so every country in the world is soon going to country in the world is soon going to country in the world is soon going to realize oh take American citizens that

realize oh take American citizens that realize oh take American citizens that live there get them a tremendous amount live there get them a tremendous amount live there get them a tremendous amount of money and just buy the US government of money and just buy the US government of money and just buy the US government right so that but for corporations right so that but for corporations right so that but for corporations they've already realized that on a they've already realized that on a they've already realized that on a massive scale right so for example in massive scale right so for example in massive scale right so for example in the two industries you gave Automotive the two industries you gave Automotive the two industries you gave Automotive so in New Jersey about a decade ago or so in New Jersey about a decade ago or so in New Jersey about a decade ago or so one of the most powerful lobbies is so one of the most powerful lobbies is so one of the most powerful lobbies is uh car dealerships so at the national uh car dealerships so at the national uh car dealerships so at the national level you got Pharma and you've got level you got Pharma and you've got level you got Pharma and you've got defense contractors Etc at the local defense contractors Etc at the local defense contractors Etc at the local level guys who have huge Power number level guys who have huge Power number level guys who have huge Power number one is utilities number two is real one is utilities number two is real one is utilities number two is real estate and then car dealerships are estate and then car dealerships are estate and then car dealerships are hilariously among the top right because hilariously among the top right because hilariously among the top right because it's local businesses that are you know it's local businesses that are you know it's local businesses that are you know financing the politicians at the local financing the politicians at the local financing the politicians at the local level so they passed a law uh saying level so they passed a law uh saying level so they passed a law uh saying that uh you have to sell through that uh you have to sell through that uh you have to sell through dealerships but Tesla doesn't sell dealerships but Tesla doesn't sell dealerships but Tesla doesn't sell through dealerships and it was intended through dealerships and it was intended through dealerships and it was intended to bully intimidate and push out Tesla to bully intimidate and push out Tesla to bully intimidate and push out Tesla out of the market they then did that in out of the market they then did that in out of the market they then did that in a number of different states throughout a number of different states throughout a number of different states throughout the country so does that make any sense the country so does that make any sense the country so does that make any sense in a democracy of course not why you in a democracy of course not why you in a democracy of course not why you could why do you have to sell your could why do you have to sell your could why do you have to sell your product through a specific vehicle or product through a specific vehicle or product through a specific vehicle or medium you can sell it any way you like medium you can sell it any way you like medium you can sell it any way you like that's the most anti-free Market thing that's the most anti-free Market thing that's the most anti-free Market thing possible why it was just total utter possible why it was just total utter possible why it was just total utter corruption and but it's not but it's corruption and but it's not but it's corruption and but it's not but it's perfectly legal the Supreme Court perfectly legal the Supreme Court perfectly legal the Supreme Court legalized bribery so then what happened legalized bribery so then what happened legalized bribery so then what happened in that case so then Elon came in and in that case so then Elon came in and in that case so then Elon came in and gave campaign contributions and reversed gave campaign contributions and reversed gave campaign contributions and reversed it so now we're in a battle where it's it so now we're in a battle where it's it so now we're in a battle where it's an open auction right different an open auction right different an open auction right different companies are buying different companies are buying different companies are buying different politicians and then they're pretending

politicians and then they're pretending politicians and then they're pretending to have debates about principles and to have debates about principles and to have debates about principles and ideas Etc so now let's look at Tech um ideas Etc so now let's look at Tech um ideas Etc so now let's look at Tech um in the beginning Facebook was not in the beginning Facebook was not in the beginning Facebook was not spending any money in politics or almost spending any money in politics or almost spending any money in politics or almost any money in politics so what happens any money in politics so what happens any money in politics so what happens they're getting hammered they getting they're getting hammered they getting they're getting hammered they getting pulled into Congressional hearings and pulled into Congressional hearings and pulled into Congressional hearings and Facebook's got fake news and oh my God Facebook's got fake news and oh my God Facebook's got fake news and oh my God all these trouble from Facebook then all these trouble from Facebook then all these trouble from Facebook then Facebook does the logical thing oh it Facebook does the logical thing oh it Facebook does the logical thing oh it turns out I need to grease these sons of turns out I need to grease these sons of turns out I need to grease these sons of okay so then they hire a whole okay so then they hire a whole okay so then they hire a whole bunch of Republican Consultants they go bunch of Republican Consultants they go bunch of Republican Consultants they go grease all the Republicans and most of grease all the Republicans and most of grease all the Republicans and most of the corporate Democrats and then all of the corporate Democrats and then all of the corporate Democrats and then all of a sudden we're no longer talking about a sudden we're no longer talking about a sudden we're no longer talking about Facebook at all and Facebook are angels Facebook at all and Facebook are angels Facebook at all and Facebook are angels and now we've turned our attention to and now we've turned our attention to and now we've turned our attention to who Facebook's top competitor Tik Tock who Facebook's top competitor Tik Tock who Facebook's top competitor Tik Tock funny how that works okay and by the way funny how that works okay and by the way funny how that works okay and by the way then Donald Trump goes oh and Tik tok's then Donald Trump goes oh and Tik tok's then Donald Trump goes oh and Tik tok's big dangerous company they working with big dangerous company they working with big dangerous company they working with China okay and then Jeff Yas comes in on China okay and then Jeff Yas comes in on China okay and then Jeff Yas comes in on this cycle part owner of Tik Tock and he this cycle part owner of Tik Tock and he this cycle part owner of Tik Tock and he doesn't want Tik Tok banished of course doesn't want Tik Tok banished of course doesn't want Tik Tok banished of course right so he gives Trump a couple of right so he gives Trump a couple of right so he gives Trump a couple of million dollars Trump turns around the million dollars Trump turns around the million dollars Trump turns around the next day and goes we love Tik Tock Tik next day and goes we love Tik Tock Tik next day and goes we love Tik Tock Tik tok's a good company right so that's a tok's a good company right so that's a tok's a good company right so that's a big contributor to uh influencing what big contributor to uh influencing what big contributor to uh influencing what politicians say and what they think but politicians say and what they think but politicians say and what they think but it's not the entire thing right no it is it's not the entire thing right no it is it's not the entire thing right no it is it's 98% I'll go on mainstream media and it's 98% I'll go on mainstream media and it's 98% I'll go on mainstream media and they'll be like oh I see what you're they'll be like oh I see what you're they'll be like oh I see what you're saying I I can see how that influences saying I I can see how that influences saying I I can see how that influences politicians about 10% I'm like no no politicians about 10% I'm like no no politicians about 10% I'm like no no it's 98% so and even a lot of good

it's 98% so and even a lot of good it's 98% so and even a lot of good people think it's 50/50 they have people think it's 50/50 they have people think it's 50/50 they have principles and they have money no they principles and they have money no they principles and they have money no they have money and this smid of principles have money and this smid of principles have money and this smid of principles that's why I wanted to clarify 982 okay that's why I wanted to clarify 982 okay that's why I wanted to clarify 982 okay so how do we how do we fix it so it's so how do we how do we fix it so it's so how do we how do we fix it so it's really interesting and nice that you're really interesting and nice that you're really interesting and nice that you're Pro capitalism and anti- corporatism so Pro capitalism and anti- corporatism so Pro capitalism and anti- corporatism so how do we create a system where uh the how do we create a system where uh the how do we create a system where uh the free market can rule where capitalism free market can rule where capitalism free market can rule where capitalism can rule we can have these vibrant can rule we can have these vibrant can rule we can have these vibrant flourishing of all these companies flourishing of all these companies flourishing of all these companies competing against each other and competing against each other and competing against each other and creating awesome stuff yeah uh so in the creating awesome stuff yeah uh so in the creating awesome stuff yeah uh so in the book I call it Democratic capitalism as book I call it Democratic capitalism as book I call it Democratic capitalism as opposed to Bernie's Democratic socialism opposed to Bernie's Democratic socialism opposed to Bernie's Democratic socialism right we can get into that distinction right we can get into that distinction right we can get into that distinction in a minute but in a minute but in a minute but um so as Adam Smith said and anyone who um so as Adam Smith said and anyone who um so as Adam Smith said and anyone who studies uh capitalism knows you need the studies uh capitalism knows you need the studies uh capitalism knows you need the government to protect the market as well government to protect the market as well government to protect the market as well as the people because so like why do we as the people because so like why do we as the people because so like why do we have cops because if we don't have cops have cops because if we don't have cops have cops because if we don't have cops somebody's going to go well I like Lex's somebody's going to go well I like Lex's somebody's going to go well I like Lex's equ equipment why don't I just go into equ equipment why don't I just go into equ equipment why don't I just go into his house and take it right so you need his house and take it right so you need his house and take it right so you need the cops to protect you and that's the the cops to protect you and that's the the cops to protect you and that's the government so people say I hate big government so people say I hate big government so people say I hate big government do you right it depends right government do you right it depends right government do you right it depends right if your house is getting robbed all of a if your house is getting robbed all of a if your house is getting robbed all of a sudden you like the government but you sudden you like the government but you sudden you like the government but you also need comps on Wall Street because also need comps on Wall Street because also need comps on Wall Street because if you allow insider trading the if you allow insider trading the if you allow insider trading the powerful are going to rob you blind and powerful are going to rob you blind and powerful are going to rob you blind and the little guy's going to get screwed so the little guy's going to get screwed so the little guy's going to get screwed so that's this easy example and so if you that's this easy example and so if you that's this easy example and so if you don't have those cops the bad guys are don't have those cops the bad guys are don't have those cops the bad guys are going to take over they're going to set going to take over they're going to set going to take over they're going to set the rules rig the rules in their favor the rules rig the rules in their favor the rules rig the rules in their favor so that that's why you need regulation so that that's why you need regulation so that that's why you need regulation and so the Republicans on purpose made

and so the Republicans on purpose made and so the Republicans on purpose made regulation a dirty word they're like oh regulation a dirty word they're like oh regulation a dirty word they're like oh all regulation is bad and and then all regulation is bad and and then all regulation is bad and and then sometimes on the left people fall for sometimes on the left people fall for sometimes on the left people fall for the Trap of all regulation is good a guy the Trap of all regulation is good a guy the Trap of all regulation is good a guy I like in on has a great analogy on this I like in on has a great analogy on this I like in on has a great analogy on this Matt Stoler he's one of the original I Matt Stoler he's one of the original I Matt Stoler he's one of the original I would argue progressives and there's would argue progressives and there's would argue progressives and there's about four of us I'm sure there's more about four of us I'm sure there's more about four of us I'm sure there's more but that have stayed true to the but that have stayed true to the but that have stayed true to the original meaning of progressivism and original meaning of progressivism and original meaning of progressivism and populism me Matt Stoler David seroa Ryan populism me Matt Stoler David seroa Ryan populism me Matt Stoler David seroa Ryan Grim okay and they used to be in that Grim okay and they used to be in that Grim okay and they used to be in that original blogger group there was guys original blogger group there was guys original blogger group there was guys like Glenn Greenwald and other like Glenn Greenwald and other like Glenn Greenwald and other interesting cats right but they went in interesting cats right but they went in interesting cats right but they went in different direction different direction different direction so Matt has a great line he says um if so Matt has a great line he says um if so Matt has a great line he says um if somebody comes up to you and says how somebody comes up to you and says how somebody comes up to you and says how big a pipe do you big a pipe do you big a pipe do you want there is no answer for that it want there is no answer for that it want there is no answer for that it depends on the job doesn't it right what depends on the job doesn't it right what depends on the job doesn't it right what are we doing what are we building I I'm are we doing what are we building I I'm are we doing what are we building I I'm going to tell you the size of the pipe going to tell you the size of the pipe going to tell you the size of the pipe depending on the project so when people depending on the project so when people depending on the project so when people say are you in favor of Regulation or say are you in favor of Regulation or say are you in favor of Regulation or against it that's an absurd question of against it that's an absurd question of against it that's an absurd question of course you need regulation it just means course you need regulation it just means course you need regulation it just means laws right so don't kill your neighbor laws right so don't kill your neighbor laws right so don't kill your neighbor is a regulation right so uh my idea is a is a regulation right so uh my idea is a is a regulation right so uh my idea is a simple one and one we're going to keep simple one and one we're going to keep simple one and one we're going to keep coming back to balance so when my dad coming back to balance so when my dad coming back to balance so when my dad was a small business owner in New Jersey was a small business owner in New Jersey was a small business owner in New Jersey and and they inspected the elevator six and and they inspected the elevator six and and they inspected the elevator six times a year that was overregulation and times a year that was overregulation and times a year that was overregulation and I said to my dad so should they not I said to my dad so should they not I said to my dad so should they not inspect it at all I'm a young kid inspect it at all I'm a young kid inspect it at all I'm a young kid growing up and he said no no you got to

growing up and he said no no you got to growing up and he said no no you got to inspect it at least twice a year I said inspect it at least twice a year I said inspect it at least twice a year I said why he said because in Turkey sometimes why he said because in Turkey sometimes why he said because in Turkey sometimes they don't inspect it and then the they don't inspect it and then the they don't inspect it and then the elevator Falls elevator Falls elevator Falls okay so so bounds of Reason correct okay so so bounds of Reason correct okay so so bounds of Reason correct regulation to protect the markets and to regulation to protect the markets and to regulation to protect the markets and to protect the American people yeah but protect the American people yeah but protect the American people yeah but finding the right level of Regulation finding the right level of Regulation finding the right level of Regulation especially in for example in Tech especially in for example in Tech especially in for example in Tech something I'm much more familiar with is something I'm much more familiar with is something I'm much more familiar with is very difficult because uh people in very difficult because uh people in very difficult because uh people in Congress are living in in the 20th Congress are living in in the 20th Congress are living in in the 20th century before the internet was uh uh century before the internet was uh uh century before the internet was uh uh invented so like how are they supposed invented so like how are they supposed invented so like how are they supposed to come up with regulations yeah that's to come up with regulations yeah that's to come up with regulations yeah that's the idea of the free market is you the idea of the free market is you the idea of the free market is you should be able to sort of compete the should be able to sort of compete the should be able to sort of compete the market regulates and then the government market regulates and then the government market regulates and then the government can step in and protect uh the market can step in and protect uh the market can step in and protect uh the market from forming monopolies for example from forming monopolies for example from forming monopolies for example which is easier to do yeah but that's a which is easier to do yeah but that's a which is easier to do yeah but that's a form of Regulation right but then form of Regulation right but then form of Regulation right but then there's like more check in the elevator there's like more check in the elevator there's like more check in the elevator twice a year that's a more sort of twice a year that's a more sort of twice a year that's a more sort of specific watching micromanaging so Lex specific watching micromanaging so Lex specific watching micromanaging so Lex here's the deal there's no way around here's the deal there's no way around here's the deal there's no way around the the laws are made by politicians the the laws are made by politicians the the laws are made by politicians okay so and so you can't give up then okay so and so you can't give up then okay so and so you can't give up then and go oh it's a bunch of Schmucks who I and go oh it's a bunch of Schmucks who I and go oh it's a bunch of Schmucks who I think most politicians are just servants think most politicians are just servants think most politicians are just servants for the donor class I the you know the for the donor class I the you know the for the donor class I the you know the media makes it sound like they're the media makes it sound like they're the media makes it sound like they're the best of us oh they deserve a lot of best of us oh they deserve a lot of best of us oh they deserve a lot of honor and respect and they kiss their honor and respect and they kiss their honor and respect and they kiss their ass Etc I think generally speaking ass Etc I think generally speaking ass Etc I think generally speaking they're usually the worst of us they're usually the worst of us they're usually the worst of us especially in this corpor structure especially in this corpor structure especially in this corpor structure right because they're the guys who uh right because they're the guys who uh right because they're the guys who uh their number one Talent is yes sir no their number one Talent is yes sir no their number one Talent is yes sir no sir what would you like me to do with

sir what would you like me to do with sir what would you like me to do with your donor money sir absolutely I'll your donor money sir absolutely I'll your donor money sir absolutely I'll serve you completely or 98% right so in serve you completely or 98% right so in serve you completely or 98% right so in this structure the politicians are the this structure the politicians are the this structure the politicians are the worst of us but at some point you need worst of us but at some point you need worst of us but at some point you need somebody elected to be your somebody elected to be your somebody elected to be your representative to do Democratic representative to do Democratic representative to do Democratic capitalism so that you have capitalism capitalism so that you have capitalism capitalism so that you have capitalism but it's checked by the government on but it's checked by the government on but it's checked by the government on behalf of the people it's the people behalf of the people it's the people behalf of the people it's the people that are saying these are the rules of that are saying these are the rules of that are saying these are the rules of the land and and you have to abide by the land and and you have to abide by the land and and you have to abide by them so the how do you get to the best them so the how do you get to the best them so the how do you get to the best possible answer and which is related to possible answer and which is related to possible answer and which is related to an earlier question you asked Lex which an earlier question you asked Lex which an earlier question you asked Lex which is the number one thing you have to do is the number one thing you have to do is the number one thing you have to do is get big money out of politics is get big money out of politics is get big money out of politics everything else is near impossible as everything else is near impossible as everything else is near impossible as long as we are drowned in money and long as we are drowned in money and long as we are drowned in money and whoever has more money wins and by the whoever has more money wins and by the whoever has more money wins and by the way when it comes to legislation again way when it comes to legislation again way when it comes to legislation again that's true about 98% of the time like that's true about 98% of the time like that's true about 98% of the time like we predict things ahead of time people we predict things ahead of time people we predict things ahead of time people are like wow how did you know that that are like wow how did you know that that are like wow how did you know that that bill wasn't going to pass or was going bill wasn't going to pass or was going bill wasn't going to pass or was going to pass it's the easiest thing in the to pass it's the easiest thing in the to pass it's the easiest thing in the world and we like literally like teach world and we like literally like teach world and we like literally like teach our audience on The Young Turks watch our audience on The Young Turks watch our audience on The Young Turks watch you'll be able to see for yourself and you'll be able to see for yourself and you'll be able to see for yourself and now like our members commented 10 they now like our members commented 10 they now like our members commented 10 they do these predictions they're almost do these predictions they're almost do these predictions they're almost always right right because it's so always right right because it's so always right right because it's so simple follow the money so if you get simple follow the money so if you get simple follow the money so if you get big money out of politics and I could big money out of politics and I could big money out of politics and I could explain how to do that in this act um explain how to do that in this act um explain how to do that in this act um then you're at a place where you got then you're at a place where you got then you're at a place where you got your best shot at honest Representatives your best shot at honest Representatives your best shot at honest Representatives that are going to try their best to get that are going to try their best to get that are going to try their best to get to the right answer are they going to to the right answer are they going to to the right answer are they going to get to the right answer out of the gate get to the right answer out of the gate get to the right answer out of the gate usually not so they pass a law there's usually not so they pass a law there's usually not so they pass a law there's something wrong with the law they then

something wrong with the law they then something wrong with the law they then fix that part they it's a pendulum you fix that part they it's a pendulum you fix that part they it's a pendulum you know you don't want it to swing too know you don't want it to swing too know you don't want it to swing too wildly but you do need a little bit of wildly but you do need a little bit of wildly but you do need a little bit of oscillation in that pendulum to get to oscillation in that pendulum to get to oscillation in that pendulum to get to the right balance by the way I I was uh the right balance by the way I I was uh the right balance by the way I I was uh listening to uh Joe Biden from when he listening to uh Joe Biden from when he listening to uh Joe Biden from when he was like 30 years old the speeches he was like 30 years old the speeches he was like 30 years old the speeches he was eloquent as hell it's fun to listen was eloquent as hell it's fun to listen was eloquent as hell it's fun to listen to actually and he has a speech he gives to actually and he has a speech he gives to actually and he has a speech he gives or just maybe a conversation in Congress or just maybe a conversation in Congress or just maybe a conversation in Congress I'm not sure where where he talks about I'm not sure where where he talks about I'm not sure where where he talks about how corrupt the whole system is and he how corrupt the whole system is and he how corrupt the whole system is and he he's really honest and like fun and uh he's really honest and like fun and uh he's really honest and like fun and uh that Joe Biden is great by the way that that Joe Biden is great by the way that that Joe Biden is great by the way that guy I mean age age sucks you know people guy I mean age age sucks you know people guy I mean age age sucks you know people get older but he was talking quite get older but he was talking quite get older but he was talking quite honestly about like having to suck up to honestly about like having to suck up to honestly about like having to suck up to all these uh rich people and that he all these uh rich people and that he all these uh rich people and that he couldn't really suck up to the really couldn't really suck up to the really couldn't really suck up to the really rich people uh uh they said uh come back rich people uh uh they said uh come back rich people uh uh they said uh come back to us uh 10 years later when you're like to us uh 10 years later when you're like to us uh 10 years later when you're like more more integrated into the system but more more integrated into the system but more more integrated into the system but he was really honest about it he's he was really honest about it he's he was really honest about it he's saying that's um that's how it is that's saying that's um that's how it is that's saying that's um that's how it is that's what we have to do and that really sucks what we have to do and that really sucks what we have to do and that really sucks that that's what we have to do yeah so that that's what we have to do yeah so that that's what we have to do yeah so we did a video on our Tik Tok Channel we did a video on our Tik Tok Channel we did a video on our Tik Tok Channel then and now of Joe Biden this is when I then and now of Joe Biden this is when I then and now of Joe Biden this is when I was trying to push Biden out we should was trying to push Biden out we should was trying to push Biden out we should say you're one of the people early on say you're one of the people early on say you're one of the people early on saying Biden used to step down yeah I saying Biden used to step down yeah I saying Biden used to step down yeah I started about a year ago because I was started about a year ago because I was started about a year ago because I was positive that Biden had a 0% chance of positive that Biden had a 0% chance of positive that Biden had a 0% chance of winning and uh and it turned out by the winning and uh and it turned out by the winning and uh and it turned out by the way uh two days before he dropped out way uh two days before he dropped out way uh two days before he dropped out his inside advisers inside the White his inside advisers inside the White his inside advisers inside the White House said yeah near 0% chance of

House said yeah near 0% chance of House said yeah near 0% chance of winning yeah so we were right all along winning yeah so we were right all along winning yeah so we were right all along you got a lot of criticism for that by you got a lot of criticism for that by you got a lot of criticism for that by the way but yeah yeah we can come back the way but yeah yeah we can come back the way but yeah yeah we can come back to that yes I did and which makes it to that yes I did and which makes it to that yes I did and which makes it Tuesday for me uh I get a lot of Tuesday for me uh I get a lot of Tuesday for me uh I get a lot of criticism for everything uh and by the criticism for everything uh and by the criticism for everything uh and by the way Democratic party you're welcome so but H B's a really welcome so but H B's a really interesting example I'm really glad you interesting example I'm really glad you interesting example I'm really glad you brought it up so the video on Tik Tok brought it up so the video on Tik Tok brought it up so the video on Tik Tok was just showing Biden then Biden now was just showing Biden then Biden now was just showing Biden then Biden now and and you're right Biden was so and and you're right Biden was so and and you're right Biden was so Dynamic when you see how Dynamic he was Dynamic when you see how Dynamic he was Dynamic when you see how Dynamic he was we did like side by side right and then we did like side by side right and then we did like side by side right and then you see him now going get barely anyways you see him now going get barely anyways you see him now going get barely anyways right you're like oh that's not the same right you're like oh that's not the same right you're like oh that's not the same guy I get it right so and that got like guy I get it right so and that got like guy I get it right so and that got like 5 million views because because it 5 million views because because it 5 million views because because it resonates they're like yeah yeah of resonates they're like yeah yeah of resonates they're like yeah yeah of course right but when he first started course right but when he first started course right but when he first started to the point you were making Le he one to the point you were making Le he one to the point you were making Le he one of in fact I know because I talked to of in fact I know because I talked to of in fact I know because I talked to him about this uh his very first bill him about this uh his very first bill him about this uh his very first bill was anti-corruption why because at that was anti-corruption why because at that was anti-corruption why because at that point Everything Changes in 1976 78 is point Everything Changes in 1976 78 is point Everything Changes in 1976 78 is Supreme Court decisions that basically Supreme Court decisions that basically Supreme Court decisions that basically legalize bribery but remember Biden is legalize bribery but remember Biden is legalize bribery but remember Biden is ancient so he's coming into politics at ancient so he's coming into politics at ancient so he's coming into politics at a time when money has not yet drowned a time when money has not yet drowned a time when money has not yet drowned politics and in fact the American politics and in fact the American politics and in fact the American population is super pissed about the population is super pissed about the population is super pissed about the fact that it's begun they don't like fact that it's begun they don't like fact that it's begun they don't like corruption so early Biden because he's corruption so early Biden because he's corruption so early Biden because he's reading the room is very anti-corruption reading the room is very anti-corruption reading the room is very anti-corruption and the first bill he proposes is to get and the first bill he proposes is to get and the first bill he proposes is to get money out of politics okay but as Biden money out of politics okay but as Biden money out of politics okay but as Biden goes on for his epic 200-year career in goes on for his epic 200-year career in goes on for his epic 200-year career in Washington he starts to get not more

Washington he starts to get not more Washington he starts to get not more conservative more corporate because he's conservative more corporate because he's conservative more corporate because he's just taking more and more money by the just taking more and more money by the just taking more and more money by the middle of his career he has a nickname middle of his career he has a nickname middle of his career he has a nickname the senator from the senator from the senator from MBNA okay MBNA was a credit card company MBNA okay MBNA was a credit card company MBNA okay MBNA was a credit card company based in Delaware the reason he had that based in Delaware the reason he had that based in Delaware the reason he had that nickname is because there isn't anything nickname is because there isn't anything nickname is because there isn't anything Joe Biden wouldn't have done for credit Joe Biden wouldn't have done for credit Joe Biden wouldn't have done for credit card companies and corporations based in card companies and corporations based in card companies and corporations based in Delaware which are almost all Delaware which are almost all Delaware which are almost all corporations okay so he became the most corporations okay so he became the most corporations okay so he became the most corporate senator in the country and corporate senator in the country and corporate senator in the country and hence the most beloved by corporate hence the most beloved by corporate hence the most beloved by corporate media and corporate media is checked him media and corporate media is checked him media and corporate media is checked him his entire career until about a month his entire career until about a month his entire career until about a month ago so for example in the primaries both ago so for example in the primaries both ago so for example in the primaries both in 2020 and 2024 if you said the senator in 2020 and 2024 if you said the senator in 2020 and 2024 if you said the senator from MBNA I guarantee you almost no one from MBNA I guarantee you almost no one from MBNA I guarantee you almost no one in the audience has heard of it if you in the audience has heard of it if you in the audience has heard of it if you heard of it good job you know politics heard of it good job you know politics heard of it good job you know politics really well okay but the reason you really well okay but the reason you really well okay but the reason you didn't hear of it is because the didn't hear of it is because the didn't hear of it is because the mainstream media wouldn't say that's mainstream media wouldn't say that's mainstream media wouldn't say that's outrageous of Joe Biden to be such a outrageous of Joe Biden to be such a outrageous of Joe Biden to be such a corporate stooge they'd say that's corporate stooge they'd say that's corporate stooge they'd say that's outrageous of you to point out something outrageous of you to point out something outrageous of you to point out something that's true and something we reported on that's true and something we reported on that's true and something we reported on earlier okay and so they protected him earlier okay and so they protected him earlier okay and so they protected him at all costs now at all costs now at all costs now finally when you get to this version of finally when you get to this version of finally when you get to this version of Joe Biden we he can't talk he can't won Joe Biden we he can't talk he can't won Joe Biden we he can't talk he can't won he's he he Bears no resemblance to the he's he he Bears no resemblance to the he's he he Bears no resemblance to the young guy who came in saying that money young guy who came in saying that money young guy who came in saying that money in politics was a problem now he's in politics was a problem now he's in politics was a problem now he's saying money in politics is the solution saying money in politics is the solution saying money in politics is the solution and in 2020 he said well I can raise and in 2020 he said well I can raise and in 2020 he said well I can raise more money than Bernie I I I can kiss more money than Bernie I I I can kiss more money than Bernie I I I can kiss corporate ass better than Bernie I'm the corporate ass better than Bernie I'm the corporate ass better than Bernie I'm the biggest corporate ass kisser in the

biggest corporate ass kisser in the biggest corporate ass kisser in the world so I'm going to raise a billion world so I'm going to raise a billion world so I'm going to raise a billion dollars and you need to support me now dollars and you need to support me now dollars and you need to support me now of course he doesn't say it in those of course he doesn't say it in those of course he doesn't say it in those words but that was a message to The words but that was a message to The words but that was a message to The Establishment and buddish kachar Obama Establishment and buddish kachar Obama Establishment and buddish kachar Obama kurn everybody goes that's right Biden kurn everybody goes that's right Biden kurn everybody goes that's right Biden Biden Biden Biden not Biden Biden Biden not Biden Biden Biden not Bernie I don't know that there's anybody Bernie I don't know that there's anybody Bernie I don't know that there's anybody in the country who instinctually in the country who instinctually in the country who instinctually dislikes Bernie more than Barack dislikes Bernie more than Barack dislikes Bernie more than Barack Obama oh that's an interesting I'm not Obama oh that's an interesting I'm not Obama oh that's an interesting I'm not taking that attention at this moment taking that attention at this moment taking that attention at this moment let's because you mentioned mainstream let's because you mentioned mainstream let's because you mentioned mainstream media what's the motivation for media what's the motivation for media what's the motivation for mainstream media to be corporatist also mainstream media to be corporatist also mainstream media to be corporatist also so first of all they're giant so first of all they're giant so first of all they're giant Corporation Corporation Corporation so they're all multibillion Dollar so they're all multibillion Dollar so they're all multibillion Dollar corpor in the old days we had incredible corpor in the old days we had incredible corpor in the old days we had incredible number of media Outlets so you go to San number of media Outlets so you go to San number of media Outlets so you go to San Francisco there'd be at least two papers Francisco there'd be at least two papers Francisco there'd be at least two papers and there'd be a paper boy and I'm going and there'd be a paper boy and I'm going and there'd be a paper boy and I'm going all the way back paper boy on each all the way back paper boy on each all the way back paper boy on each corner and they're competing with one corner and they're competing with one corner and they're competing with one another literally they'd be caty corner another literally they'd be caty corner another literally they'd be caty corner right and one guy's going oh I hear all right and one guy's going oh I hear all right and one guy's going oh I hear all this details they're trying to get an this details they're trying to get an this details they're trying to get an audience they're trying to get people audience they're trying to get people audience they're trying to get people interested so they're populous they're interested so they're populous they're interested so they're populous they're interesting they're mck rakers they're interesting they're mck rakers they're interesting they're mck rakers they're challenging the government fast for to challenging the government fast for to challenging the government fast for to now or not now but about a decade ago now or not now but about a decade ago now or not now but about a decade ago five years ago in that ball in that five years ago in that ball in that five years ago in that ball in that ballpark now there's only six giant cor ballpark now there's only six giant cor ballpark now there's only six giant cor media corporations left and it's an media corporations left and it's an media corporations left and it's an oligopoly right and they're all oligopoly right and they're all oligopoly right and they're all multi-billion dollar corporations they multi-billion dollar corporations they multi-billion dollar corporations they all want tax cuts half of them are also all want tax cuts half of them are also all want tax cuts half of them are also especially about 20 years ago during the especially about 20 years ago during the especially about 20 years ago during the Iraq War half of them are defense Iraq War half of them are defense Iraq War half of them are defense contractors so they're just using the contractors so they're just using the contractors so they're just using the news as marketing to start wars like the

news as marketing to start wars like the news as marketing to start wars like the Iraq War and then GE which owned MSNBC Iraq War and then GE which owned MSNBC Iraq War and then GE which owned MSNBC makes a tremendous amount of money so makes a tremendous amount of money so makes a tremendous amount of money so much more money from war than it does much more money from war than it does much more money from war than it does from media that media is a good from media that media is a good from media that media is a good marketing spend for these corporations marketing spend for these corporations marketing spend for these corporations now that's part of it that they now that's part of it that they now that's part of it that they themselves want the same exact thing as themselves want the same exact thing as themselves want the same exact thing as Corp the rest of Corporations do for Corp the rest of Corporations do for Corp the rest of Corporations do for corporate rule lower tax cuts corporate rule lower tax cuts corporate rule lower tax cuts deregulation so they can merge Etc but deregulation so they can merge Etc but deregulation so they can merge Etc but the second part of it is arguably even the second part of it is arguably even the second part of it is arguably even more more more important so where does all that money important so where does all that money important so where does all that money in politics go so for examp example in in politics go so for examp example in in politics go so for examp example in 2022 it's just a midterm election not no 2022 it's just a midterm election not no 2022 it's just a midterm election not no presidential should be lower spending a presidential should be lower spending a presidential should be lower spending a ridiculous $7 billion are spent okay on ridiculous $7 billion are spent okay on ridiculous $7 billion are spent okay on on the election cycle where does the 17 on the election cycle where does the 17 on the election cycle where does the 17 billion go almost all of it goes into billion go almost all of it goes into billion go almost all of it goes into corporate media mainstream media corporate media mainstream media corporate media mainstream media television newspapers radio they're television newspapers radio they're television newspapers radio they're buying ads like nuts so we have a buying ads like nuts so we have a buying ads like nuts so we have a reporter at tyt David Schuster he used reporter at tyt David Schuster he used reporter at tyt David Schuster he used to work at MSNBC Fox News Etc and David to work at MSNBC Fox News Etc and David to work at MSNBC Fox News Etc and David wants to appe piece about money and wants to appe piece about money and wants to appe piece about money and politics at a local NBC news station and politics at a local NBC news station and politics at a local NBC news station and his uh editor or GM spiked the story and his uh editor or GM spiked the story and his uh editor or GM spiked the story and David goes into his office and asks him David goes into his office and asks him David goes into his office and asks him so why this story is true it's a huge so why this story is true it's a huge so why this story is true it's a huge part of politics if we're going to part of politics if we're going to part of politics if we're going to report on this issue we got to tell you report on this issue we got to tell you report on this issue we got to tell you what's actually happening so he says what's actually happening so he says what's actually happening so he says David come here puts his arm around his David come here puts his arm around his David come here puts his arm around his shoulders takes him to the big news room shoulders takes him to the big news room shoulders takes him to the big news room and he goes you see all this money in and he goes you see all this money in and he goes you see all this money in politics paid for that

politics paid for that politics paid for that that's really fascinating so big that's really fascinating so big that's really fascinating so big corporations are giving money to corporations are giving money to corporations are giving money to politicians through different channels politicians through different channels politicians through different channels and then the politicians are spending and then the politicians are spending and then the politicians are spending that money on mainstream media and and that money on mainstream media and and that money on mainstream media and and and so there's a there's a vicious cycle and so there's a there's a vicious cycle and so there's a there's a vicious cycle where it's in the interest of the where it's in the interest of the where it's in the interest of the mainstream media not to criticize the mainstream media not to criticize the mainstream media not to criticize the very corporations that are feeding that very corporations that are feeding that very corporations that are feeding that cycle so not actually direct it's not cycle so not actually direct it's not cycle so not actually direct it's not like corporations or cuz I I was like corporations or cuz I I was like corporations or cuz I I was thinking one of the ways is direct thinking one of the ways is direct thinking one of the ways is direct advertisement like Pharmaceuticals advertisement like Pharmaceuticals advertisement like Pharmaceuticals obviously advertise a lot on uh obviously advertise a lot on uh obviously advertise a lot on uh mainstream media but there's also mainstream media but there's also mainstream media but there's also indirect which is like giving the indirect which is like giving the indirect which is like giving the politicians money the or or super Pacs politicians money the or or super Pacs politicians money the or or super Pacs and the super Pacs and spend money on and the super Pacs and spend money on and the super Pacs and spend money on the that's why media never took the that's why media never took the that's why media never took mainstream media never talks about the mainstream media never talks about the mainstream media never talks about the number one factor in politics which is number one factor in politics which is number one factor in politics which is money like we all know I mean you now we money like we all know I mean you now we money like we all know I mean you now we as we talked about earlier we see it as we talked about earlier we see it as we talked about earlier we see it with our own eyes open auction any with our own eyes open auction any with our own eyes open auction any country any company anybody that has country any company anybody that has country any company anybody that has money the politicians will now literally money the politicians will now literally money the politicians will now literally say I am now working for this guy As say I am now working for this guy As say I am now working for this guy As Trump says because he gave me a strong Trump says because he gave me a strong Trump says because he gave me a strong endorsement which means a lot of money endorsement which means a lot of money endorsement which means a lot of money right and so and the Press never covers right and so and the Press never covers right and so and the Press never covers it almost never right so you're telling it almost never right so you're telling it almost never right so you're telling me you're doing a an article on the me you're doing a an article on the me you're doing a an article on the infrastructure build or build back infrastructure build or build back infrastructure build or build back better Etc and you're not going to better Etc and you're not going to better Etc and you're not going to mention the enormous amount of money mention the enormous amount of money mention the enormous amount of money that every Lobby is spent on that bill that every Lobby is spent on that bill that every Lobby is spent on that bill that's absurd that's absurd that's 98% that's absurd that's absurd that's 98% that's absurd that's absurd that's 98% of the ball game and the reason they

of the ball game and the reason they of the ball game and the reason they hide the ball is because they don't want hide the ball is because they don't want hide the ball is because they don't want you to know this whole thing is based on you to know this whole thing is based on you to know this whole thing is based on the money that they are receiving and the money that they are receiving and the money that they are receiving and and by the way that one more thing about and by the way that one more thing about and by the way that one more thing about that Lex it's that the ads themselves that Lex it's that the ads themselves that Lex it's that the ads themselves actually they actually they actually they work and they work pretty well but work and they work pretty well but work and they work pretty well but that's not the main reason you spend that's not the main reason you spend that's not the main reason you spend money on ads you spend the money in ads money on ads you spend the money in ads money on ads you spend the money in ads to get friendly coverage from the to get friendly coverage from the to get friendly coverage from the content from the free media that you're content from the free media that you're content from the free media that you're getting from that same Outlet and so getting from that same Outlet and so getting from that same Outlet and so since every newspaper and every news uh since every newspaper and every news uh since every newspaper and every news uh television station and network knows television station and network knows television station and network knows that the Democratic party and the that the Democratic party and the that the Democratic party and the Republican Party are their top clients Republican Party are their top clients Republican Party are their top clients they're going to get billions of dollars they're going to get billions of dollars they're going to get billions of dollars from them they never really criticize from them they never really criticize from them they never really criticize the Republican and Democratic party on the Republican and Democratic party on the Republican and Democratic party on the other hand if you're an outsider the other hand if you're an outsider the other hand if you're an outsider they'll rip your face they'll rip your face they'll rip your face off that's also really interesting so if off that's also really interesting so if off that's also really interesting so if you're an Advertiser if you're a big you're an Advertiser if you're a big you're an Advertiser if you're a big farmer and you're farmer and you're farmer and you're advertising it's not the that the advertising it's not the that the advertising it's not the that the advertisement works it's that the the advertisement works it's that the the advertisement works it's that the the hosts are too hosts are too hosts are too afraid not like explicitly just even afraid not like explicitly just even afraid not like explicitly just even implicitly they're self-censoring implicitly they're self-censoring implicitly they're self-censoring they're not going to have any guests they're not going to have any guests they're not going to have any guests that are like controversial anti- big that are like controversial anti- big that are like controversial anti- big farmer or they're not going to make any farmer or they're not going to make any farmer or they're not going to make any jokes about big farmer they're not going jokes about big farmer they're not going jokes about big farmer they're not going to make and that and that kind of that to make and that and that kind of that to make and that and that kind of that continues and expands that's really continues and expands that's really continues and expands that's really interesting sometimes it's super direct interesting sometimes it's super direct interesting sometimes it's super direct when I was a host on MSNBC I uh had a a when I was a host on MSNBC I uh had a a when I was a host on MSNBC I uh had a a company uh that I was criticizing in my company uh that I was criticizing in my company uh that I was criticizing in my uh uh uh and management looked at it and by the

and management looked at it and by the and management looked at it and by the way I used to go off prompter aot and it way I used to go off prompter aot and it way I used to go off prompter aot and it drove him crazy not because I wasn't drove him crazy not because I wasn't drove him crazy not because I wasn't good at it I I think my ratings went up good at it I I think my ratings went up good at it I I think my ratings went up whenever I went off prompter but because whenever I went off prompter but because whenever I went off prompter but because they couldn't pre-approve the script and they couldn't pre-approve the script and they couldn't pre-approve the script and what do they want to pre-approve hey are what do they want to pre-approve hey are what do they want to pre-approve hey are you going to criticize one of our you going to criticize one of our you going to criticize one of our sponsors one of our advertisers Etc so sponsors one of our advertisers Etc so sponsors one of our advertisers Etc so they H we had a giant fight over it and they H we had a giant fight over it and they H we had a giant fight over it and the compromise was I mooved them lower the compromise was I mooved them lower the compromise was I mooved them lower in the script but kept them in the story in the script but kept them in the story in the script but kept them in the story right so sometimes it's super direct right so sometimes it's super direct right so sometimes it's super direct like that but more way more often it's like that but more way more often it's like that but more way more often it's implicit it's indirect you don't have to implicit it's indirect you don't have to implicit it's indirect you don't have to say it right so I I give you an say it right so I I give you an say it right so I I give you an spectacular example of it so that you spectacular example of it so that you spectacular example of it so that you get a sense of how it works implicitly get a sense of how it works implicitly get a sense of how it works implicitly so since G is a giant defense contractor so since G is a giant defense contractor so since G is a giant defense contractor they own MSNBC at the time of the Iraq they own MSNBC at the time of the Iraq they own MSNBC at the time of the Iraq War they fired everyone who was against War they fired everyone who was against War they fired everyone who was against the Iraq War on air so Phil Donahue the Iraq War on air so Phil Donahue the Iraq War on air so Phil Donahue Jesse Ventura Ashley Banfield but Ashley Jesse Ventura Ashley Banfield but Ashley Jesse Ventura Ashley Banfield but Ashley bfield they did something different with bfield they did something different with bfield they did something different with okay she was a rising star at the time okay she was a rising star at the time okay she was a rising star at the time she goes and gives a speech in Kansas she goes and gives a speech in Kansas she goes and gives a speech in Kansas not really even having a policy position not really even having a policy position not really even having a policy position but just talking about the actual cost but just talking about the actual cost but just talking about the actual cost of this Iraq war and how we should be of this Iraq war and how we should be of this Iraq war and how we should be really careful they hate that so they really careful they hate that so they really careful they hate that so they take their rising star and they take her take their rising star and they take her take their rising star and they take her off air okay and she goes okay good let off air okay and she goes okay good let off air okay and she goes okay good let me add of my contract it's okay I'll go me add of my contract it's okay I'll go me add of my contract it's okay I'll go because she was such a star at that time because she was such a star at that time because she was such a star at that time she could have easily gotten somewhere she could have easily gotten somewhere she could have easily gotten somewhere else and they go no we're not going to else and they go no we're not going to else and they go no we're not going to let you out of your contract why not you let you out of your contract why not you let you out of your contract why not you going to pay me to do nothing yeah not going to pay me to do nothing yeah not going to pay me to do nothing yeah not only that we're moving your office where only that we're moving your office where only that we're moving your office where are you moving it to they literally

are you moving it to they literally are you moving it to they literally moved it into a closet okay and they moved it into a closet okay and they moved it into a closet okay and they made sure that everybody in the building made sure that everybody in the building made sure that everybody in the building saw her getting taken off the air and saw her getting taken off the air and saw her getting taken off the air and moved into a closet the closet is the moved into a closet the closet is the moved into a closet the closet is the memo right that's the memo to the whole memo right that's the memo to the whole memo right that's the memo to the whole building you better shut up and do as building you better shut up and do as building you better shut up and do as you're told okay so that way I don't you're told okay so that way I don't you're told okay so that way I don't have to tell you and get myself in have to tell you and get myself in have to tell you and get myself in trouble it's super obvious there are trouble it's super obvious there are trouble it's super obvious there are guard rails here and you are not allowed guard rails here and you are not allowed guard rails here and you are not allowed to go beyond acceptable thought an to go beyond acceptable thought an to go beyond acceptable thought an acceptable thought is our sponsors are acceptable thought is our sponsors are acceptable thought is our sponsors are great politicians are great the powerful great politicians are great the powerful great politicians are great the powerful are great so how do we uh how do we are great so how do we uh how do we are great so how do we uh how do we begin to fix that and what exactly are begin to fix that and what exactly are begin to fix that and what exactly are we fixing is it the the influence of the we fixing is it the the influence of the we fixing is it the the influence of the lobbyist the influence of like it feels lobbyist the influence of like it feels lobbyist the influence of like it feels like like like there's uh companies have found there's uh companies have found there's uh companies have found different ways to achieve influence different ways to achieve influence different ways to achieve influence right so how do we get money out of right so how do we get money out of right so how do we get money out of politics so it's very difficult but politics so it's very difficult but politics so it's very difficult but doable and we will do it so but in order doable and we will do it so but in order doable and we will do it so but in order to do it the populist left and the to do it the populist left and the to do it the populist left and the populist right have have to unite populist right have have to unite populist right have have to unite because and that by the way that is why because and that by the way that is why because and that by the way that is why we have the cultural Wars that's why we have the cultural Wars that's why we have the cultural Wars that's why you're voting for you're voting for you're voting for Trump no chance okay so we can get into Trump no chance okay so we can get into Trump no chance okay so we can get into that in a minute so the culture wars are that in a minute so the culture wars are that in a minute so the culture wars are meant to divide us if we if we get meant to divide us if we if we get meant to divide us if we if we get united we have enough leverage and power united we have enough leverage and power united we have enough leverage and power to be able to do it but uh you can't do to be able to do it but uh you can't do to be able to do it but uh you can't do it through a normal bill because if you it through a normal bill because if you it through a normal bill because if you do it in a bill the whole point of do it in a bill the whole point of do it in a bill the whole point of capturing the Supreme Court was to make capturing the Supreme Court was to make capturing the Supreme Court was to make sure that they kill any piece of sure that they kill any piece of sure that they kill any piece of legislation that would protect the legislation that would protect the legislation that would protect the American people you're saying the American people you're saying the American people you're saying the Supreme Court is also captured by this Supreme Court is also captured by this Supreme Court is also captured by this oh 100% so okay so let me explain again

oh 100% so okay so let me explain again oh 100% so okay so let me explain again people for the uninitiated they think oh people for the uninitiated they think oh people for the uninitiated they think oh that sounds conspiratorial well in this that sounds conspiratorial well in this that sounds conspiratorial well in this case that's actually somewhat true case that's actually somewhat true case that's actually somewhat true because people now know about this it's because people now know about this it's because people now know about this it's the pow memo right the most infamous the pow memo right the most infamous the pow memo right the most infamous political memo in history Lewis Powell political memo in history Lewis Powell political memo in history Lewis Powell writes a memo for the Chamber of writes a memo for the Chamber of writes a memo for the Chamber of Commerce in 1971 that's basically a Commerce in 1971 that's basically a Commerce in 1971 that's basically a blueprint for how the Chamber of blueprint for how the Chamber of blueprint for how the Chamber of Commerce can take over the government Commerce can take over the government Commerce can take over the government and Lewis Powell explains one of the and Lewis Powell explains one of the and Lewis Powell explains one of the most important things you have to do is most important things you have to do is most important things you have to do is take over the media but even more take over the media but even more take over the media but even more important than that is taking over the important than that is taking over the important than that is taking over the Supreme Court because the Supreme Court Supreme Court because the Supreme Court Supreme Court because the Supreme Court is the ultimate Arbiter of what is is the ultimate Arbiter of what is is the ultimate Arbiter of what is allowed and not allowed and he allowed and not allowed and he allowed and not allowed and he says we need quote activist says we need quote activist says we need quote activist judges to uh to help business interests judges to uh to help business interests judges to uh to help business interests on the court okay and then Nixon reads on the court okay and then Nixon reads on the court okay and then Nixon reads the memo and goes that sounds like a the memo and goes that sounds like a the memo and goes that sounds like a really good idea how about I put you on really good idea how about I put you on really good idea how about I put you on the Supreme Court and he puts Lewis the Supreme Court and he puts Lewis the Supreme Court and he puts Lewis Powell the guy who wrote the memo on the Powell the guy who wrote the memo on the Powell the guy who wrote the memo on the Supreme Court where he's the decid in Supreme Court where he's the decid in Supreme Court where he's the decid in vote in balot and uh and uh Buckley so vote in balot and uh and uh Buckley so vote in balot and uh and uh Buckley so bat's those two decisions are 76 to 78 bat's those two decisions are 76 to 78 bat's those two decisions are 76 to 78 and what they say is yeah yeah I read and what they say is yeah yeah I read and what they say is yeah yeah I read the Constitution and it says that money the Constitution and it says that money the Constitution and it says that money is speech no it isn't and no it didn't is speech no it isn't and no it didn't is speech no it isn't and no it didn't that's not even close to true they just that's not even close to true they just that's not even close to true they just made it up and they said okay in made it up and they said okay in made it up and they said okay in corporations they're human beings no corporations they're human beings no corporations they're human beings no they're not that's preposterous right they're not that's preposterous right they're not that's preposterous right and they have the same inalienable and they have the same inalienable and they have the same inalienable rights as human beings and citizens do rights as human beings and citizens do rights as human beings and citizens do and money is speech and speech is an

and money is speech and speech is an and money is speech and speech is an inalienable right so corporations can inalienable right so corporations can inalienable right so corporations can spend unlimited money in politics and spend unlimited money in politics and spend unlimited money in politics and there goes our democracy gone okay so there goes our democracy gone okay so there goes our democracy gone okay so citizens united just shot a dead horse citizens united just shot a dead horse citizens united just shot a dead horse with a Gatling gun and made it worse and with a Gatling gun and made it worse and with a Gatling gun and made it worse and put it on steroids but it was already put it on steroids but it was already put it on steroids but it was already dead in 78 so that's why every chart you dead in 78 so that's why every chart you dead in 78 so that's why every chart you you see for the rest of your life you'll you see for the rest of your life you'll you see for the rest of your life you'll see this um every chart in about the see this um every chart in about the see this um every chart in about the American economy starts diverge in 1978 American economy starts diverge in 1978 American economy starts diverge in 1978 so until 38 to 78 we have golden 40 so until 38 to 78 we have golden 40 so until 38 to 78 we have golden 40 Years of economic Years of economic Years of economic Prosperity we create the greatest middle Prosperity we create the greatest middle Prosperity we create the greatest middle class the world has ever seen and uh our class the world has ever seen and uh our class the world has ever seen and uh our productivity is skyh high but our wages productivity is skyh high but our wages productivity is skyh high but our wages match our productivity after match our productivity after match our productivity after 78 productivity is still Skyhigh best in 78 productivity is still Skyhigh best in 78 productivity is still Skyhigh best in the world okay sometimes people oh the the world okay sometimes people oh the the world okay sometimes people oh the American workers lazy not remotely true American workers lazy not remotely true American workers lazy not remotely true we work our ass off okay but wages just we work our ass off okay but wages just we work our ass off okay but wages just Flatline and they've been flatlining for Flatline and they've been flatlining for Flatline and they've been flatlining for about 50 years straight and the reason about 50 years straight and the reason about 50 years straight and the reason is because the Supreme Court made briber is because the Supreme Court made briber is because the Supreme Court made briber IL legal so in order to get past the IL legal so in order to get past the IL legal so in order to get past the Supreme Court you only have one choice Supreme Court you only have one choice Supreme Court you only have one choice that's an amendment and so you have to that's an amendment and so you have to that's an amendment and so you have to get an amendment amendments are very get an amendment amendments are very get an amendment amendments are very difficult but so for example you you difficult but so for example you you difficult but so for example you you need two-thirds of Congress to even need two-thirds of Congress to even need two-thirds of Congress to even propose the amendment so well why would propose the amendment so well why would propose the amendment so well why would Congress propose an amendment that would Congress propose an amendment that would Congress propose an amendment that would take away their own power right cuz take away their own power right cuz take away their own power right cuz almost everybody Congress got there almost everybody Congress got there almost everybody Congress got there through corruption their main Talent is through corruption their main Talent is through corruption their main Talent is I can kiss corporate ass better than you I can kiss corporate ass better than you I can kiss corporate ass better than you can right so I they take the most amount

can right so I they take the most amount can right so I they take the most amount a person with more money in Congress a person with more money in Congress a person with more money in Congress wins 95% of the time right but the good wins 95% of the time right but the good wins 95% of the time right but the good news is the founding fathers were news is the founding fathers were news is the founding fathers were Geniuses and they put in a second outlet Geniuses and they put in a second outlet Geniuses and they put in a second outlet they said or two-thirds of the states they said or two-thirds of the states they said or two-thirds of the states can call for a convention where you can can call for a convention where you can can call for a convention where you can propose an amendment and after an propose an amendment and after an propose an amendment and after an amendment is proposed then three amendment is proposed then three amendment is proposed then three quarters of the states have to ratify it quarters of the states have to ratify it quarters of the states have to ratify it that's what makes it so difficult that's what makes it so difficult that's what makes it so difficult because getting three quarters of the because getting three quarters of the because getting three quarters of the states there's so many red States so states there's so many red States so states there's so many red States so many blue States getting three quarters many blue States getting three quarters many blue States getting three quarters of the states they agree is near of the states they agree is near of the states they agree is near impossible but there is one issue that impossible but there is one issue that impossible but there is one issue that the whole country agrees on 93% of the whole country agrees on 93% of the whole country agrees on 93% of Americans believe that politicians serve Americans believe that politicians serve Americans believe that politicians serve their donors and not their voters so their donors and not their voters so their donors and not their voters so this is the one thing we can unite on if this is the one thing we can unite on if this is the one thing we can unite on if we unite on this we push our states to we unite on this we push our states to we unite on this we push our states to call for a convention we all go to the call for a convention we all go to the call for a convention we all go to the convention together we bring democracy convention together we bring democracy convention together we bring democracy alive and we propose amendments to the alive and we propose amendments to the alive and we propose amendments to the Constitution and the best Amendment gets Constitution and the best Amendment gets Constitution and the best Amendment gets three quarters of the states to ratify three quarters of the states to ratify three quarters of the states to ratify you go above the Supreme Court and you you go above the Supreme Court and you you go above the Supreme Court and you solve the whole thing so if 93% of solve the whole thing so if 93% of solve the whole thing so if 93% of people want this why hasn't it happened people want this why hasn't it happened people want this why hasn't it happened yet I mean the obvious answer is there's yet I mean the obvious answer is there's yet I mean the obvious answer is there's uh corporate control of the media and uh corporate control of the media and uh corporate control of the media and the politicians but it seems like our the politicians but it seems like our the politicians but it seems like our current system and the megaphone that a current system and the megaphone that a current system and the megaphone that a president has you should be able to kind president has you should be able to kind president has you should be able to kind of unite the populist left and right so of unite the populist left and right so of unite the populist left and right so it shouldn't be that difficult to do it shouldn't be that difficult to do it shouldn't be that difficult to do like hasn't a person like Trump who's a like hasn't a person like Trump who's a like hasn't a person like Trump who's a billionaire mhm or on the left um a rich billionaire mhm or on the left um a rich billionaire mhm or on the left um a rich businessman run just on this and win

businessman run just on this and win businessman run just on this and win well eventually they will right and so well eventually they will right and so well eventually they will right and so that's why I actually have a lot of Hope that's why I actually have a lot of Hope that's why I actually have a lot of Hope even though things seem super dark right even though things seem super dark right even though things seem super dark right now so uh and that's why I was for now so uh and that's why I was for now so uh and that's why I was for Bernie so I I can come back to that but Bernie so I I can come back to that but Bernie so I I can come back to that but why hasn't Trump done it as easy he's why hasn't Trump done it as easy he's why hasn't Trump done it as easy he's like what am I a sucker the guy gives me like what am I a sucker the guy gives me like what am I a sucker the guy gives me money I do what the guy wants why would money I do what the guy wants why would money I do what the guy wants why would I get rid of that that's how I got into I get rid of that that's how I got into I get rid of that that's how I got into power and so that's how I'm doing it now power and so that's how I'm doing it now power and so that's how I'm doing it now I get go to Miram Adon and say give me I get go to Miram Adon and say give me I get go to Miram Adon and say give me $100 million and I'll let Israel Annex $100 million and I'll let Israel Annex $100 million and I'll let Israel Annex the West Bank right so I'll go to the the West Bank right so I'll go to the the West Bank right so I'll go to the oil companies and give me a billion oil companies and give me a billion oil companies and give me a billion dollars and I'll give you tax subsidies dollars and I'll give you tax subsidies dollars and I'll give you tax subsidies I'll let you drill I'll take away I'll let you drill I'll take away I'll let you drill I'll take away regulation why would I stop that you regulation why would I stop that you regulation why would I stop that you think he likes money more than he likes think he likes money more than he likes think he likes money more than he likes being popular being popular being popular because uh there there's a big part of because uh there there's a big part of because uh there there's a big part of him as a populist in the sense that like him as a populist in the sense that like him as a populist in the sense that like he loves being admired by large masses he loves being admired by large masses he loves being admired by large masses of people yeah so and you're absolutely of people yeah so and you're absolutely of people yeah so and you're absolutely right but that is the fault of Maga and right but that is the fault of Maga and right but that is the fault of Maga and so Maga you're screwing populace in a so Maga you're screwing populace in a so Maga you're screwing populace in a way that is way that is way that is infuriating okay and smart Libertarians infuriating okay and smart Libertarians infuriating okay and smart Libertarians like Dave Smith have figured this out like Dave Smith have figured this out like Dave Smith have figured this out and that's why he's just as mad at Trump and that's why he's just as mad at Trump and that's why he's just as mad at Trump as I am and uh and it's because he took as I am and uh and it's because he took as I am and uh and it's because he took a populist movement and he redirected it a populist movement and he redirected it a populist movement and he redirected it for his own personal gain magga figure for his own personal gain magga figure for his own personal gain magga figure it out come on right and so if you say it out come on right and so if you say it out come on right and so if you say oh you think Democrats have figured out oh you think Democrats have figured out oh you think Democrats have figured out that Poli no they largely haven't that Poli no they largely haven't that Poli no they largely haven't figured it out either and I think figured it out either and I think figured it out either and I think there's blue Maga and I could talk about there's blue Maga and I could talk about there's blue Maga and I could talk about that as well but for those of us on the that as well but for those of us on the that as well but for those of us on the populist left yeah we're not enamored by populist left yeah we're not enamored by populist left yeah we're not enamored by politicians and for example when Bernie

politicians and for example when Bernie politicians and for example when Bernie does the wrong thing we call him out does the wrong thing we call him out does the wrong thing we call him out well why I'm not Bernie's not my goddamn well why I'm not Bernie's not my goddamn well why I'm not Bernie's not my goddamn Uncle I don't I don't like him for some Uncle I don't I don't like him for some Uncle I don't I don't like him for some personality reason it's not a cult of personality reason it's not a cult of personality reason it's not a cult of personality you do the right thing I personality you do the right thing I personality you do the right thing I love you for you do the wrong thing I'm love you for you do the wrong thing I'm love you for you do the wrong thing I'm gonna kick your ass for it right so but gonna kick your ass for it right so but gonna kick your ass for it right so but Donald Trump does this massive Donald Trump does this massive Donald Trump does this massive ridiculous corruption over and over ridiculous corruption over and over ridiculous corruption over and over again and mago's like I'm here for it again and mago's like I'm here for it again and mago's like I'm here for it love it as long as you're doing the love it as long as you're doing the love it as long as you're doing the corruption I'm okay with it what does corruption I'm okay with it what does corruption I'm okay with it what does Trump what does Trump say about getting Trump what does Trump say about getting Trump what does Trump say about getting money out of politics does he he says money out of politics does he he says money out of politics does he he says nothing about it go magga why haven't nothing about it go magga why haven't nothing about it go magga why haven't you held him to account like so when you held him to account like so when you held him to account like so when Bernie helped Biden take out $15 minimum Bernie helped Biden take out $15 minimum Bernie helped Biden take out $15 minimum wage from the Senate bill on the first wage from the Senate bill on the first wage from the Senate bill on the first uh bill that was introducing the Biden uh bill that was introducing the Biden uh bill that was introducing the Biden Administration we went nuts we did a Administration we went nuts we did a Administration we went nuts we did a petition we sent in videos to Bernie our petition we sent in videos to Bernie our petition we sent in videos to Bernie our audience Going H don't kill it Bernie audience Going H don't kill it Bernie audience Going H don't kill it Bernie don't kill it and so Bernie then don't kill it and so Bernie then don't kill it and so Bernie then reintroduced it as an amendment it got reintroduced it as an amendment it got reintroduced it as an amendment it got voted down but he did the the right voted down but he did the the right voted down but he did the the right thing right that is US holding our top thing right that is US holding our top thing right that is US holding our top leader accountable and saying you better leader accountable and saying you better leader accountable and saying you better get back on track okay cuz we're not get back on track okay cuz we're not get back on track okay cuz we're not here for you and your personal self here for you and your personal self here for you and your personal self aggrandisement we're here for policy aggrandisement we're here for policy aggrandisement we're here for policy right and if magga was actually here for right and if magga was actually here for right and if magga was actually here for policy they would have absolutely policy they would have absolutely policy they would have absolutely leveled Trump on the fact that he I mean leveled Trump on the fact that he I mean leveled Trump on the fact that he I mean remember what he ran on drain the swamp remember what he ran on drain the swamp remember what he ran on drain the swamp that's why he won in 2016 right I so I that's why he won in 2016 right I so I that's why he won in 2016 right I so I predicted on ABC right after the DNC and predicted on ABC right after the DNC and predicted on ABC right after the DNC and Hillary Clinton was up 10 12 points Hillary Clinton was up 10 12 points Hillary Clinton was up 10 12 points whatever she was and I said Trump would whatever she was and I said Trump would whatever she was and I said Trump would win okay and they the whole panel win okay and they the whole panel win okay and they the whole panel laughed out loud right they're like get laughed out loud right they're like get laughed out loud right they're like get get Al to this crazy guy I said he's a get Al to this crazy guy I said he's a get Al to this crazy guy I said he's a populist who seems to hate The

populist who seems to hate The populist who seems to hate The Establishment in a in a populist time Establishment in a in a populist time Establishment in a in a populist time and so and drain the SW swamp is is a and so and drain the SW swamp is is a and so and drain the SW swamp is is a great uh slogan uh and I knew he would great uh slogan uh and I knew he would great uh slogan uh and I knew he would win when he was in a republican debate win when he was in a republican debate win when he was in a republican debate and he and he and he said I paid all these guys before I paid said I paid all these guys before I paid said I paid all these guys before I paid them and they did whatever I wanted and them and they did whatever I wanted and them and they did whatever I wanted and I was like that's so true right and I was like that's so true right and I was like that's so true right and people will love that and especially people will love that and especially people will love that and especially Republican voters will love that I Republican voters will love that I Republican voters will love that I actually have a lot of respect for actually have a lot of respect for actually have a lot of respect for Republican voters because they actually Republican voters because they actually Republican voters because they actually genuinely hate corruption so what would genuinely hate corruption so what would genuinely hate corruption so what would an amendment look like that uh helps an amendment look like that uh helps an amendment look like that uh helps prevent money being an influence in prevent money being an influence in prevent money being an influence in politics so I started a group called politics so I started a group called politics so I started a group called Wolfpack um and name thank you Wolfpack um and name thank you Wolfpack um and name thank you wolfpack.com and and the reason why I wolfpack.com and and the reason why I wolfpack.com and and the reason why I named a Wolfpack is because everyone in named a Wolfpack is because everyone in named a Wolfpack is because everyone in Washington I knew would hate that name m Washington I knew would hate that name m Washington I knew would hate that name m um it's a populist name and everybody in um it's a populist name and everybody in um it's a populist name and everybody in Washington Snickers like now you're Washington Snickers like now you're Washington Snickers like now you're supposed to name it Americans for supposed to name it Americans for supposed to name it Americans for America and just trick people Etc no no America and just trick people Etc no no America and just trick people Etc no no no Wolfpack means we're coming for you no Wolfpack means we're coming for you no Wolfpack means we're coming for you okay we're not coming for you in a okay we're not coming for you in a okay we're not coming for you in a weirdo physical or violent way we're weirdo physical or violent way we're weirdo physical or violent way we're coming for you in a democratic way okay coming for you in a democratic way okay coming for you in a democratic way okay so we're going to go to those State uh so we're going to go to those State uh so we're going to go to those State uh houses we're going to get them to houses we're going to get them to houses we're going to get them to propose a convention and we did it in propose a convention and we did it in propose a convention and we did it in five states but then the Democratic five states but then the Democratic five states but then the Democratic party started beating us back we'll get party started beating us back we'll get party started beating us back we'll get to that and uh and so uh we are going to to that and uh and so uh we are going to to that and uh and so uh we are going to overturn your apple cart and we're going overturn your apple cart and we're going overturn your apple cart and we're going to bring put the American people back in to bring put the American people back in to bring put the American people back in charge so what does the amendment say charge so what does the amendment say charge so what does the amendment say number one uh a lot of people will have number one uh a lot of people will have number one uh a lot of people will have uh different opinions on what it should uh different opinions on what it should uh different opinions on what it should say and that's what you sort out in a

say and that's what you sort out in a say and that's what you sort out in a convention so for example one of the convention so for example one of the convention so for example one of the things that conservatives can propose things that conservatives can propose things that conservatives can propose which makes sense is term limits because which makes sense is term limits because which makes sense is term limits because the reason why these super old the reason why these super old the reason why these super old politicians are in charge is because politicians are in charge is because politicians are in charge is because they provide a return on investment so they provide a return on investment so they provide a return on investment so you know if you give to Biden Pelosi or you know if you give to Biden Pelosi or you know if you give to Biden Pelosi or mcconell they're going to deliver for mcconell they're going to deliver for mcconell they're going to deliver for you they love that turn on a message you they love that turn on a message you they love that turn on a message they don't want to risk it on a new guy they don't want to risk it on a new guy they don't want to risk it on a new guy the new guy might have principles ew or the new guy might have principles ew or the new guy might have principles ew or you know might want to actually do a you know might want to actually do a you know might want to actually do a little bit for his voters boo whereas little bit for his voters boo whereas little bit for his voters boo whereas these old you know and every corrupt these old you know and every corrupt these old you know and every corrupt system has these old guys hanging around system has these old guys hanging around system has these old guys hanging around that help maintain power Etc so my that help maintain power Etc so my that help maintain power Etc so my particular proposal in amendments would particular proposal in amendments would particular proposal in amendments would be a couple of things one is end private be a couple of things one is end private be a couple of things one is end private financing of Elections so if and look financing of Elections so if and look financing of Elections so if and look look if you're a business person you're look if you're a business person you're look if you're a business person you're a capitalist you know this with absolute a capitalist you know this with absolute a capitalist you know this with absolute certainty if somebody signs your check certainty if somebody signs your check certainty if somebody signs your check that's the person you work for right so that's the person you work for right so that's the person you work for right so if private interests are funding if private interests are funding if private interests are funding politicians the politicians will serve politicians the politicians will serve politicians the politicians will serve private interest and then you're going private interest and then you're going private interest and then you're going to get into a fight like Elon did in New to get into a fight like Elon did in New to get into a fight like Elon did in New Jersey where the car dealerships and Jersey where the car dealerships and Jersey where the car dealerships and Tesla are getting into an auction can I Tesla are getting into an auction can I Tesla are getting into an auction can I hear 100,000 no a million 2 million 3 hear 100,000 no a million 2 million 3 hear 100,000 no a million 2 million 3 million right and and now you got to go million right and and now you got to go million right and and now you got to go bribe the government official that's bribe the government official that's bribe the government official that's called a campaign contribution and this called a campaign contribution and this called a campaign contribution and this is a terrible system right and the is a terrible system right and the is a terrible system right and the private financing go to complete public private financing go to complete public private financing go to complete public financing of Elections that's when the financing of Elections that's when the financing of Elections that's when the conservatives because they've been

conservatives because they've been conservatives because they've been propagandized by corporate media yes propagandized by corporate media yes propagandized by corporate media yes mainstream media got into your head too mainstream media got into your head too mainstream media got into your head too and right-wing media got into your head and right-wing media got into your head and right-wing media got into your head too and right-wing media also financed too and right-wing media also financed too and right-wing media also financed by a lot of this corrupt interest and so by a lot of this corrupt interest and so by a lot of this corrupt interest and so they tell you oh you don't want to they tell you oh you don't want to they tell you oh you don't want to publicly Finance oh my God you'd be publicly Finance oh my God you'd be publicly Finance oh my God you'd be spending like a billion dollars on spending like a billion dollars on spending like a billion dollars on politicians brother they spending politicians brother they spending politicians brother they spending trillions of dollars of your money trillions of dollars of your money trillions of dollars of your money because they're financed by the guys because they're financed by the guys because they're financed by the guys that they're giving all of your money to that they're giving all of your money to that they're giving all of your money to so can you educate me does that uh so can you educate me does that uh so can you educate me does that uh prevent something like citizen United so prevent something like citizen United so prevent something like citizen United so like super Pacs are all gone in this like super Pacs are all gone in this like super Pacs are all gone in this case so allone so indirect funding is case so allone so indirect funding is case so allone so indirect funding is also indirect funding is gone direct also indirect funding is gone direct also indirect funding is gone direct funding's gone you you have to set up funding's gone you you have to set up funding's gone you you have to set up some thresholds not everybody can just some thresholds not everybody can just some thresholds not everybody can just get money to run you have to prove that get money to run you have to prove that get money to run you have to prove that you have some sort of uh popular support you have some sort of uh popular support you have some sort of uh popular support So signature So signature So signature Gathering you would still allow for Gathering you would still allow for Gathering you would still allow for small money donations like up to $100 small money donations like up to $100 small money donations like up to $100 something along those lines not not something along those lines not not something along those lines not not 5,000 or whatever it is now yeah I think 5,000 or whatever it is now yeah I think 5,000 or whatever it is now yeah I think 5,000 is too high but those are fine 5,000 is too high but those are fine 5,000 is too high but those are fine debates yeah you know but you basically debates yeah you know but you basically debates yeah you know but you basically want to create an incentive everything want to create an incentive everything want to create an incentive everything is about incentives and disincentives is about incentives and disincentives is about incentives and disincentives again capitalists realize this better again capitalists realize this better again capitalists realize this better than anyone else right so you want to than anyone else right so you want to than anyone else right so you want to set up an incentive to serve your voters set up an incentive to serve your voters set up an incentive to serve your voters not your donors so if you take away not your donors so if you take away not your donors so if you take away private donors well there goes that private donors well there goes that private donors well there goes that incentive and that's gigantic right and incentive and that's gigantic right and incentive and that's gigantic right and then if you set up small Grassroots then if you set up small Grassroots then if you set up small Grassroots funding is a way to get past the funding is a way to get past the funding is a way to get past the threshold to get the funding to run an threshold to get the funding to run an threshold to get the funding to run an election well then good because then election well then good because then election well then good because then you're serving small donors which are you're serving small donors which are you're serving small donors which are generally voters right so that's what generally voters right so that's what generally voters right so that's what you want and ending private financing is

you want and ending private financing is you want and ending private financing is critical but the second thing is ending critical but the second thing is ending critical but the second thing is ending corporate personhood so this is where corporate personhood so this is where corporate personhood so this is where you get into a lot of fights because you get into a lot of fights because you get into a lot of fights because there's two reasons one is some folks there's two reasons one is some folks there's two reasons one is some folks have a principal position against it and have a principal position against it and have a principal position against it and they say well I mean uh the Sierra Club they say well I mean uh the Sierra Club they say well I mean uh the Sierra Club is technically a corporation ACLU is is technically a corporation ACLU is is technically a corporation ACLU is technically a corporation and so if you technically a corporation and so if you technically a corporation and so if you end corporate personhood then uh they end corporate personhood then uh they end corporate personhood then uh they you know that could endanger their you know that could endanger their you know that could endanger their existence right no it doesn't endanger existence right no it doesn't endanger existence right no it doesn't endanger their existence at all right so it their existence at all right so it their existence at all right so it doesn't endanger GM or ge's existence it doesn't endanger GM or ge's existence it doesn't endanger GM or ge's existence it doesn't endanger anybody's existence doesn't endanger anybody's existence doesn't endanger anybody's existence corporations exist we're not trying to corporations exist we're not trying to corporations exist we're not trying to take them away I would never do that take them away I would never do that take them away I would never do that right that's not smart that's not right that's not smart that's not right that's not smart that's not workable Etc we're just saying they workable Etc we're just saying they workable Etc we're just saying they don't have constitutional rights so they don't have constitutional rights so they don't have constitutional rights so they have the rights that we give them and by have the rights that we give them and by have the rights that we give them and by the way read the founding fathers is the way read the founding fathers is the way read the founding fathers is also in my book they hated corporations also in my book they hated corporations also in my book they hated corporations the American Revolution was partly the American Revolution was partly the American Revolution was partly against the British East India Company against the British East India Company against the British East India Company and so the Tea Party in Boston was and so the Tea Party in Boston was and so the Tea Party in Boston was against that Corporation they threw against that Corporation they threw against that Corporation they threw their tea overboard it was not against their tea overboard it was not against their tea overboard it was not against the British Monarchy and so they and all the British Monarchy and so they and all the British Monarchy and so they and all the founding fathers warned us over and the founding fathers warned us over and the founding fathers warned us over and over again watch out for corporations over again watch out for corporations over again watch out for corporations okay because once they form they will okay because once they form they will okay because once they form they will amass money and power and look to kill amass money and power and look to kill amass money and power and look to kill off democracy and they were totally off democracy and they were totally off democracy and they were totally right that's exactly what happened and right that's exactly what happened and right that's exactly what happened and so it's not that you don't have them so it's not that you don't have them so it's not that you don't have them it's that you through Democratic it's that you through Democratic it's that you through Democratic capitalism you limit their power they

capitalism you limit their power they capitalism you limit their power they definitely they you can give them a definitely they you can give them a definitely they you can give them a bunch of Rights you say hey you have a bunch of Rights you say hey you have a bunch of Rights you say hey you have a right to exist you have a right to do right to exist you have a right to do right to exist you have a right to do this this and this okay but you do not this this and this okay but you do not this this and this okay but you do not have constitutional rights of a of a have constitutional rights of a of a have constitutional rights of a of a citizen and so you don't have the right citizen and so you don't have the right citizen and so you don't have the right to speak to speak to speak to a politician by giving them a billion to a politician by giving them a billion to a politician by giving them a billion dollars and you believe that the people dollars and you believe that the people dollars and you believe that the people will be able to find the right policies will be able to find the right policies will be able to find the right policies to regulate and tax the corporations to regulate and tax the corporations to regulate and tax the corporations such that capitalism can flourish still such that capitalism can flourish still such that capitalism can flourish still yes you know why cuz I'm a real populist yes you know why cuz I'm a real populist yes you know why cuz I'm a real populist and I believe in the people so I that I and I believe in the people so I that I and I believe in the people so I that I drive the establishment crazy because drive the establishment crazy because drive the establishment crazy because they don't believe in the people they they don't believe in the people they they don't believe in the people they think Jake have you seen Maga have you think Jake have you seen Maga have you think Jake have you seen Maga have you seen these guys have you seen the seen these guys have you seen the seen these guys have you seen the radicals on the left we're so much radicals on the left we're so much radicals on the left we're so much smarter you know how many ivy league smarter you know how many ivy league smarter you know how many ivy league degrees we have right and we know what degrees we have right and we know what degrees we have right and we know what we're doing no you don't no you're we're doing no you don't no you're we're doing no you don't no you're everybody to some degree looks out for everybody to some degree looks out for everybody to some degree looks out for their own interests right why I like their own interests right why I like their own interests right why I like capitalism and why I love democracy is capitalism and why I love democracy is capitalism and why I love democracy is because it's the wisdom of the crowd and because it's the wisdom of the crowd and because it's the wisdom of the crowd and so in the long run the crowd is Right so in the long run the crowd is Right so in the long run the crowd is Right oftentimes in the short term we're wrong oftentimes in the short term we're wrong oftentimes in the short term we're wrong okay but the wisdom of the crowd in the okay but the wisdom of the crowd in the okay but the wisdom of the crowd in the long run is much much better than the long run is much much better than the long run is much much better than the elites that run things the elites say elites that run things the elites say elites that run things the elites say well we're so smart and educated so well we're so smart and educated so well we're so smart and educated so we're going to better what's good for we're going to better what's good for we're going to better what's good for you no brother you're going to know you no brother you're going to know you no brother you're going to know what's better for you and and and so what's better for you and and and so what's better for you and and and so here's something that a lot of people here's something that a lot of people here's something that a lot of people get wrong on the populist left and right get wrong on the populist left and right get wrong on the populist left and right they think oh those guys are evil they think oh those guys are evil they think oh those guys are evil they're not evil i' I've met them I they're not evil i' I've met them I they're not evil i' I've met them I worked at MSNBC I worked on cable I I worked at MSNBC I worked on cable I I worked at MSNBC I worked on cable I I went to Wharton you know Columbia Law I

went to Wharton you know Columbia Law I went to Wharton you know Columbia Law I know a lot of those guys and so they're know a lot of those guys and so they're know a lot of those guys and so they're not at all evil they don't even know not at all evil they don't even know not at all evil they don't even know that they're mainly serving their own that they're mainly serving their own that they're mainly serving their own interests they just naturally do it interests they just naturally do it interests they just naturally do it right and so they think the carot right and so they think the carot right and so they think the carot interest loophole makes a lot of sense interest loophole makes a lot of sense interest loophole makes a lot of sense right they think corporate tax cuts right they think corporate tax cuts right they think corporate tax cuts makes a lot of sense you not not getting makes a lot of sense you not not getting makes a lot of sense you not not getting higher wages you not having healthare higher wages you not having healthare higher wages you not having healthare makes a lot of sense it doesn't make any makes a lot of sense it doesn't make any makes a lot of sense it doesn't make any goddamn sense but they get themselves to goddamn sense but they get themselves to goddamn sense but they get themselves to believe it and that's another part believe it and that's another part believe it and that's another part portion of the Invisible Hand on the portion of the Invisible Hand on the portion of the Invisible Hand on the market so there there's problems with market so there there's problems with market so there there's problems with every every path uh so the elite like every every path uh so the elite like every every path uh so the elite like you mentioned can be corrupted by greed you mentioned can be corrupted by greed you mentioned can be corrupted by greed by power and so on but the crowd I agree by power and so on but the crowd I agree by power and so on but the crowd I agree with you by the way about the wisdom of with you by the way about the wisdom of with you by the way about the wisdom of the crowd versus the wisdom of the elite the crowd versus the wisdom of the elite the crowd versus the wisdom of the elite but the crowd can be captured by but the crowd can be captured by but the crowd can be captured by charismatic leader so the problem with charismatic leader so the problem with charismatic leader so the problem with populism and I'm probably a populist populism and I'm probably a populist populism and I'm probably a populist myself the problem with populism is it myself the problem with populism is it myself the problem with populism is it it can be and has been throughout it can be and has been throughout it can be and has been throughout history captured by bad people but if history captured by bad people but if history captured by bad people but if you say to me trust the elites or trust you say to me trust the elites or trust you say to me trust the elites or trust the people I'm going to trust the people the people I'm going to trust the people the people I'm going to trust the people every single time well that's why you're every single time well that's why you're every single time well that's why you're such an interesting I don't want to say such an interesting I don't want to say such an interesting I don't want to say contradiction but there's a tension that contradiction but there's a tension that contradiction but there's a tension that creates the balance so to me in the way creates the balance so to me in the way creates the balance so to me in the way you're speaking might uh result in you're speaking might uh result in you're speaking might uh result in hurting capitalism so it's it's easy to hurting capitalism so it's it's easy to hurting capitalism so it's it's easy to in fighting corporatism to um to hurt in fighting corporatism to um to hurt in fighting corporatism to um to hurt companies so to go too far the other way companies so to go too far the other way companies so to go too far the other way yeah companies so like when you talked yeah companies so like when you talked yeah companies so like when you talked about corporate tax so what's what's the

about corporate tax so what's what's the about corporate tax so what's what's the magic what's the magic number for the magic what's the magic number for the magic what's the magic number for the corporate tax cuz if it's too corporate tax cuz if it's too corporate tax cuz if it's too high like companies leave right high like companies leave right high like companies leave right companies have so much power right now companies have so much power right now companies have so much power right now this pendulum has swung so far and we're this pendulum has swung so far and we're this pendulum has swung so far and we're guys we're almost out of time the guys we're almost out of time the guys we're almost out of time the window's closing the minute private window's closing the minute private window's closing the minute private Equity buys all of our homes the Equity buys all of our homes the Equity buys all of our homes the residential real estate market we're residential real estate market we're residential real estate market we're screwed we're indentured servants screwed we're indentured servants screwed we're indentured servants forever okay there goes wealth creation forever okay there goes wealth creation forever okay there goes wealth creation for the average American so your right for the average American so your right for the average American so your right lik to it's that it's not a lik to it's that it's not a lik to it's that it's not a contradiction it's a tension that is contradiction it's a tension that is contradiction it's a tension that is inevitable to get to balance the reason inevitable to get to balance the reason inevitable to get to balance the reason why people kind of can't figure me out why people kind of can't figure me out why people kind of can't figure me out they're like well you're on the left but they're like well you're on the left but they're like well you're on the left but you're a capitalist Etc that's not a you're a capitalist Etc that's not a you're a capitalist Etc that's not a contradiction that's getting to the contradiction that's getting to the contradiction that's getting to the right balance and in order to do that right balance and in order to do that right balance and in order to do that like if you say well if we change the like if you say well if we change the like if you say well if we change the system I'm afraid of change because what system I'm afraid of change because what system I'm afraid of change because what if the pendulum swings too far in the if the pendulum swings too far in the if the pendulum swings too far in the other direction right well then you other direction right well then you other direction right well then you would be opposed to change at all times would be opposed to change at all times would be opposed to change at all times so if you do that it it actually reminds so if you do that it it actually reminds so if you do that it it actually reminds me of the Biden fight right so I'm like me of the Biden fight right so I'm like me of the Biden fight right so I'm like guys he has he has no almost no chance guys he has he has no almost no chance guys he has he has no almost no chance of winning he stands for the of winning he stands for the of winning he stands for the establishment he can't talk but then the establishment he can't talk but then the establishment he can't talk but then the number one push back I'd get from number one push back I'd get from number one push back I'd get from Democrats was yeah but what if we change Democrats was yeah but what if we change Democrats was yeah but what if we change it's so scary we don't know about kamla it's so scary we don't know about kamla it's so scary we don't know about kamla Harris what if it's not kamla Harris Harris what if it's not kamla Harris Harris what if it's not kamla Harris it's so scary don't change and I'm like it's so scary don't change and I'm like it's so scary don't change and I'm like yeah but if you say change might be

yeah but if you say change might be yeah but if you say change might be worse it also might be better and you're worse it also might be better and you're worse it also might be better and you're at zero anything is better right and at zero anything is better right and at zero anything is better right and right now in terms of corruption in right now in terms of corruption in right now in terms of corruption in America we're at 98% corruption so we America we're at 98% corruption so we America we're at 98% corruption so we got 2% decency left brother this is when got 2% decency left brother this is when got 2% decency left brother this is when you want change and so to and and and you want change and so to and and and you want change and so to and and and Lex if you actually have wisdom of the Lex if you actually have wisdom of the Lex if you actually have wisdom of the crowd just like in supply and demand and crowd just like in supply and demand and crowd just like in supply and demand and how it works in how it works in how it works in economics it works the same way in a economics it works the same way in a economics it works the same way in a functioning democracy you go too far you functioning democracy you go too far you functioning democracy you go too far you come back in so for example when Reagan come back in so for example when Reagan come back in so for example when Reagan came in office me and my dad my family came in office me and my dad my family came in office me and my dad my family we were Republicans why at that point we were Republicans why at that point we were Republicans why at that point the mar highest marginal tax rate was at the mar highest marginal tax rate was at the mar highest marginal tax rate was at 70% 70% is too high right now they then 70% 70% is too high right now they then 70% 70% is too high right now they then he brought it all the way down to 28% he brought it all the way down to 28% he brought it all the way down to 28% that's too low right so and and but and that's too low right so and and but and that's too low right so and and but and that's how the the system modulates that's how the the system modulates that's how the the system modulates itself already we were headed towards itself already we were headed towards itself already we were headed towards corruption and because it's the 80s now corruption and because it's the 80s now corruption and because it's the 80s now we're past 78 magic 78 marker right so we're past 78 magic 78 marker right so we're past 78 magic 78 marker right so and and even Carter was way more and and even Carter was way more and and even Carter was way more conserved economically Than People conserved economically Than People conserved economically Than People realize because we're already getting realize because we're already getting realize because we're already getting pass it by the time it's in his pass it by the time it's in his pass it by the time it's in his administration but the bot line is yes administration but the bot line is yes administration but the bot line is yes you're go whenever you have real wisdom you're go whenever you have real wisdom you're go whenever you have real wisdom of the crowd whether it's in business or of the crowd whether it's in business or of the crowd whether it's in business or in politics you're going to have in politics you're going to have in politics you're going to have fluctuation you're going to have that fluctuation you're going to have that fluctuation you're going to have that pendulum swinging back and forth you pendulum swinging back and forth you pendulum swinging back and forth you don't want wild swings communism don't want wild swings communism don't want wild swings communism corporatism right you want to get to hey corporatism right you want to get to hey corporatism right you want to get to hey where where's the right balance here where where's the right balance here where where's the right balance here between capitalism and what people think

between capitalism and what people think between capitalism and what people think is socialism yeah so I is socialism yeah so I is socialism yeah so I guess uh I agree with most of the things guess uh I agree with most of the things guess uh I agree with most of the things you said about the you said about the you said about the corruption uh I just wish there would be corruption uh I just wish there would be corruption uh I just wish there would be more more more celebration of the fact that capitalism celebration of the fact that capitalism celebration of the fact that capitalism and some incredible companies in the and some incredible companies in the and some incredible companies in the history of the 20th century has created history of the 20th century has created history of the 20th century has created so much wealth so much Innovation that so much wealth so much Innovation that so much wealth so much Innovation that has increased the quality of life on has increased the quality of life on has increased the quality of life on average they've also increased the average they've also increased the average they've also increased the wealth inequality and exploitation of wealth inequality and exploitation of wealth inequality and exploitation of the workers and this kind of stuff but the workers and this kind of stuff but the workers and this kind of stuff but you you want to not forget to celebrate you you want to not forget to celebrate you you want to not forget to celebrate the awesomeness that companies have also the awesomeness that companies have also the awesomeness that companies have also brought outside the political sphere brought outside the political sphere brought outside the political sphere just in creating awesome stuff look I just in creating awesome stuff look I just in creating awesome stuff look I run a company yeah and so I don't want run a company yeah and so I don't want run a company yeah and so I don't want companies to go away and and I don't companies to go away and and I don't companies to go away and and I don't want you to hate all companies I think want you to hate all companies I think want you to hate all companies I think Young Turks is a wonderful company right Young Turks is a wonderful company right Young Turks is a wonderful company right we provide great health care we take we provide great health care we take we provide great health care we take care of our employees we care about the care of our employees we care about the care of our employees we care about the community Etc and we're building a whole community Etc and we're building a whole community Etc and we're building a whole Nation online on on those principles and Nation online on on those principles and Nation online on on those principles and the right way to run a company right um the right way to run a company right um the right way to run a company right um but guys we're at the wrong part of the but guys we're at the wrong part of the but guys we're at the wrong part of the pendulum the companies have overwhelming pendulum the companies have overwhelming pendulum the companies have overwhelming power and they're crushing us we're like power and they're crushing us we're like power and they're crushing us we're like uh that scene and star Wars with the uh that scene and star Wars with the uh that scene and star Wars with the trash compactors closing in on them the trash compactors closing in on them the trash compactors closing in on them the walls are closing in we're almost out of walls are closing in we're almost out of walls are closing in we're almost out of time because they've captured the time because they've captured the time because they've captured the government almost entirely they're only government almost entirely they're only government almost entirely they're only serving corporate interests we've got to serving corporate interests we've got to serving corporate interests we've got to get back into balance before it's too get back into balance before it's too get back into balance before it's too late and that's why I care so much about late and that's why I care so much about late and that's why I care so much about structural issues structural issues structural issues so I form Justice Democrats so that's

so I form Justice Democrats so that's so I form Justice Democrats so that's AOC Etc right that's people know it as AOC Etc right that's people know it as AOC Etc right that's people know it as the squad they know it as just Democrats the squad they know it as just Democrats the squad they know it as just Democrats Etc I'm one of the co-founders of that Etc I'm one of the co-founders of that Etc I'm one of the co-founders of that and my number one rule was no corporate and my number one rule was no corporate and my number one rule was no corporate pack money okay so you're not allowed to pack money okay so you're not allowed to pack money okay so you're not allowed to take corporate pack money by the way now take corporate pack money by the way now take corporate pack money by the way now Matt Gates and Josh Holly have stopped Matt Gates and Josh Holly have stopped Matt Gates and Josh Holly have stopped taking corporate pack money and they've taking corporate pack money and they've taking corporate pack money and they've become to some degree on economic issues become to some degree on economic issues become to some degree on economic issues genuine populists it's amazing it genuine populists it's amazing it genuine populists it's amazing it happens overnight all of a sudden happens overnight all of a sudden happens overnight all of a sudden they're holding they're talking about they're holding they're talking about they're holding they're talking about holding corporations accountable Etc now holding corporations accountable Etc now holding corporations accountable Etc now just Democrats wind up having other just Democrats wind up having other just Democrats wind up having other problems they got too deep into social problems they got too deep into social problems they got too deep into social issues not economic issues there's a issues not economic issues there's a issues not economic issues there's a general sort of criticism of general sort of criticism of general sort of criticism of billionaires right this idea now you billionaires right this idea now you billionaires right this idea now you could say that billionaires are avoiding could say that billionaires are avoiding could say that billionaires are avoiding taxes and they're not getting taxed taxes and they're not getting taxed taxes and they're not getting taxed enough but I think under that flag of enough but I think under that flag of enough but I think under that flag of criticizing billionaires is criticizing criticizing billionaires is criticizing criticizing billionaires is criticizing all uh companies that do epic that all uh companies that do epic that all uh companies that do epic that build stuff oh okay so that create stuff build stuff oh okay so that create stuff build stuff oh okay so that create stuff that that's that's what I'm worried that that's that's what I'm worried that that's that's what I'm worried about I don't hear enough like genuine about I don't hear enough like genuine about I don't hear enough like genuine you know I like celebrating people I you know I like celebrating people I you know I like celebrating people I like celebrating ideas I just don't hear like celebrating ideas I just don't hear like celebrating ideas I just don't hear enough genuine celebration of companies enough genuine celebration of companies enough genuine celebration of companies when they do because okay so are you when they do because okay so are you when they do because okay so are you right not about companies but about right not about companies but about right not about companies but about capitalism yes because you know you look capitalism yes because you know you look capitalism yes because you know you look at life expectancy 200 years ago and you at life expectancy 200 years ago and you at life expectancy 200 years ago and you look at it now and you go wow holy look at it now and you go wow holy look at it now and you go wow holy we did amazing things right so and what we did amazing things right so and what we did amazing things right so and what happened in the last 200 years we went

happened in the last 200 years we went happened in the last 200 years we went from dictatorships more towards from dictatorships more towards from dictatorships more towards democracy wisdom of the crowd we went democracy wisdom of the crowd we went democracy wisdom of the crowd we went from you know surfs and indentured from you know surfs and indentured from you know surfs and indentured servants and a nobility that holds the servants and a nobility that holds the servants and a nobility that holds the land to more towards capitalism and boom land to more towards capitalism and boom land to more towards capitalism and boom the crowd is right things go really well the crowd is right things go really well the crowd is right things go really well me the advances in medicine are amazing me the advances in medicine are amazing me the advances in medicine are amazing and medicine is a great example so and and medicine is a great example so and and medicine is a great example so and on our show I point all those things out on our show I point all those things out on our show I point all those things out and I say look we hate the drug and I say look we hate the drug and I say look we hate the drug companies because of how they capture companies because of how they capture companies because of how they capture the government right but we don't hate the government right but we don't hate the government right but we don't hate the drug companies for creating great the drug companies for creating great the drug companies for creating great drugs that those drugs save lives they drugs that those drugs save lives they drugs that those drugs save lives they save my life they save countless save my life they save countless save my life they save countless Millions upon millions of lives so the Millions upon millions of lives so the Millions upon millions of lives so the right idea isn't shut down drug right idea isn't shut down drug right idea isn't shut down drug companies the right idea is don't let companies the right idea is don't let companies the right idea is don't let them buy the government right so and and them buy the government right so and and them buy the government right so and and I know we get back into our instinctual I know we get back into our instinctual I know we get back into our instinctual shells so on the left they'll be oh we shells so on the left they'll be oh we shells so on the left they'll be oh we should get rid of all should get rid of all should get rid of all billionaires why like how does that fix billionaires why like how does that fix billionaires why like how does that fix the system tell me how it fixes the the system tell me how it fixes the the system tell me how it fixes the system and I'm all ears right U my system and I'm all ears right U my system and I'm all ears right U my solution is end private financing then solution is end private financing then solution is end private financing then you can be a billionaire all you like you can be a billionaire all you like you can be a billionaire all you like you can't buy the government right you can't buy the government right you can't buy the government right that's a more logical way to go about it that's a more logical way to go about it that's a more logical way to go about it I've never worn an Eat the Rich shirt I've never worn an Eat the Rich shirt I've never worn an Eat the Rich shirt and it drives me crazy I'm like you and it drives me crazy I'm like you and it drives me crazy I'm like you would have eaten FDR right and FDR is would have eaten FDR right and FDR is would have eaten FDR right and FDR is the best president most populous the best president most populous the best president most populous president in my opinion and so no president in my opinion and so no president in my opinion and so no there's wonderful rich people of course there's wonderful rich people of course there's wonderful rich people of course of course there's a range of humanity of course there's a range of humanity of course there's a range of humanity right but you don't want to get rid of right but you don't want to get rid of right but you don't want to get rid of the rich you don't want to get rid of the rich you don't want to get rid of the rich you don't want to get rid of companies but you also don't want to let companies but you also don't want to let companies but you also don't want to let them control everything so okay here

them control everything so okay here them control everything so okay here I'll give you an example that's really I'll give you an example that's really I'll give you an example that's really and that informs a lot of how I think and that informs a lot of how I think and that informs a lot of how I think about things uh which is my dad so my about things uh which is my dad so my about things uh which is my dad so my dad was a farmer in Southeastern turkey dad was a farmer in Southeastern turkey dad was a farmer in Southeastern turkey near the Syrian border no money um in near the Syrian border no money um in near the Syrian border no money um in fact his dad died when he was 6 months fact his dad died when he was 6 months fact his dad died when he was 6 months old and he uh and so they were saddled old and he uh and so they were saddled old and he uh and so they were saddled with debt and uh no electricity in his with debt and uh no electricity in his with debt and uh no electricity in his house like as poor as poor gets and uh house like as poor as poor gets and uh house like as poor as poor gets and uh he wound up living the American dream he wound up living the American dream he wound up living the American dream and and and so how did he do that what what made the so how did he do that what what made the so how did he do that what what made the difference uh well what made the difference uh well what made the difference uh well what made the difference is opportunity right difference is opportunity right difference is opportunity right so I'm a populist because my dad was in so I'm a populist because my dad was in so I'm a populist because my dad was in the masses right and and the elites say the masses right and and the elites say the masses right and and the elites say the masses are no good we're smart the masses are no good we're smart the masses are no good we're smart you're not we're educated you're not uh you're not we're educated you're not uh you're not we're educated you're not uh we we meritocracy we talk about that we we we meritocracy we talk about that we we we meritocracy we talk about that we have earned Merit and if you're poor have earned Merit and if you're poor have earned Merit and if you're poor middle class you have not earned Merit middle class you have not earned Merit middle class you have not earned Merit okay you're useless and worthless and I okay you're useless and worthless and I okay you're useless and worthless and I hate that so what did uh turkey do back hate that so what did uh turkey do back hate that so what did uh turkey do back in the 1960s that Liber ated my dad they in the 1960s that Liber ated my dad they in the 1960s that Liber ated my dad they provided free college education you had provided free college education you had provided free college education you had to test into it okay but the top to test into it okay but the top to test into it okay but the top 15% got a free college education at the 15% got a free college education at the 15% got a free college education at the best colleges in Turkey so and my uncle best colleges in Turkey so and my uncle best colleges in Turkey so and my uncle saved all of our Lives when he came to saved all of our Lives when he came to saved all of our Lives when he came to my dad and said do you like working on my dad and said do you like working on my dad and said do you like working on this farm and my dad's like no this farm and my dad's like no this farm and my dad's like no right it's super hot it's super hard right it's super hot it's super hard right it's super hot it's super hard it's they got to get up at 4 in the it's they got to get up at 4 in the it's they got to get up at 4 in the morning if they're lucky they family morning if they're lucky they family morning if they're lucky they family next door gives them a mule if they're

next door gives them a mule if they're next door gives them a mule if they're not they got to carry the not they got to carry the not they got to carry the themselves okay he's so my uncle told themselves okay he's so my uncle told themselves okay he's so my uncle told him work just as hard in school and him work just as hard in school and him work just as hard in school and you'll be able to get a house a car you'll be able to get a house a car you'll be able to get a house a car pretty girls Etc so my dad works his ass pretty girls Etc so my dad works his ass pretty girls Etc so my dad works his ass off gets into the school and he comes off gets into the school and he comes off gets into the school and he comes out a mechanical engineer and starts his out a mechanical engineer and starts his out a mechanical engineer and starts his own company he creates a company in own company he creates a company in own company he creates a company in Turkey hires hundreds of people he then Turkey hires hundreds of people he then Turkey hires hundreds of people he then moves to America creates a company here moves to America creates a company here moves to America creates a company here hires tons of people right so do I hate hires tons of people right so do I hate hires tons of people right so do I hate companies no my dad set up two companies companies no my dad set up two companies companies no my dad set up two companies and and I saw how much it benefited and and I saw how much it benefited and and I saw how much it benefited people I saw how much employees would people I saw how much employees would people I saw how much employees would come up to my dad 20 30 years later in come up to my dad 20 30 years later in come up to my dad 20 30 years later in the street and hug him and theyd tell me the street and hug him and theyd tell me the street and hug him and theyd tell me as a young kid your dad's the most Fair as a young kid your dad's the most Fair as a young kid your dad's the most Fair boss we ever had and we love him for it boss we ever had and we love him for it boss we ever had and we love him for it right that's how you run a company and right that's how you run a company and right that's how you run a company and he taught me the value of hard work but he taught me the value of hard work but he taught me the value of hard work but the reason I brought up here is because the reason I brought up here is because the reason I brought up here is because he taught me look like skill and ability he taught me look like skill and ability he taught me look like skill and ability is a genetic lottery so you're not going is a genetic lottery so you're not going is a genetic lottery so you're not going to just get the rich to win all the to just get the rich to win all the to just get the rich to win all the genetic Lottery no there's going to be genetic Lottery no there's going to be genetic Lottery no there's going to be tons of poor kids and middle class kids tons of poor kids and middle class kids tons of poor kids and middle class kids who have are just as good if not better who have are just as good if not better who have are just as good if not better you have to provide them the opportunity you have to provide them the opportunity you have to provide them the opportunity the fair chance to succeed you have to the fair chance to succeed you have to the fair chance to succeed you have to believe in them so this isn't about believe in them so this isn't about believe in them so this isn't about disempowering anyone it's about disempowering anyone it's about disempowering anyone it's about empowering all of those kids who are empowering all of those kids who are empowering all of those kids who are doing the right thing or smart and want doing the right thing or smart and want doing the right thing or smart and want to work hard so they could build their to work hard so they could build their to work hard so they could build their own companies and add to the economy own companies and add to the economy own companies and add to the economy What What In general is your view on What What In general is your view on What What In general is your view on meritocracy so I love meritocracy I wish meritocracy so I love meritocracy I wish meritocracy so I love meritocracy I wish that we lived in a meritocracy and I

that we lived in a meritocracy and I that we lived in a meritocracy and I want to drive towards living in a want to drive towards living in a want to drive towards living in a meritocracy so that's why I don't like meritocracy so that's why I don't like meritocracy so that's why I don't like equality of results so okay now people equality of results so okay now people equality of results so okay now people that are on the left will get super mad that are on the left will get super mad that are on the left will get super mad at that and go what do you mean well at that and go what do you mean well at that and go what do you mean well okay brother let's say you're at work okay brother let's say you're at work okay brother let's say you're at work and you got one guy who's working his and you got one guy who's working his and you got one guy who's working his ass off and the other guy that's go I ass off and the other guy that's go I ass off and the other guy that's go I don't care I'm not going to do it right don't care I'm not going to do it right don't care I'm not going to do it right well the guy who works super hard has to well the guy who works super hard has to well the guy who works super hard has to pick up the slack now he's working twice pick up the slack now he's working twice pick up the slack now he's working twice as hard right and now you want the same as hard right and now you want the same as hard right and now you want the same results you want the same salary as that results you want the same salary as that results you want the same salary as that guy no brother no he's working twice guy no brother no he's working twice guy no brother no he's working twice four times 10 times harder than you four times 10 times harder than you four times 10 times harder than you that's not fair fairness matters I lived that's not fair fairness matters I lived that's not fair fairness matters I lived we wound up I mean this is we're were in we wound up I mean this is we're were in we wound up I mean this is we're were in the suburbs of Jersey but we wound up in the suburbs of Jersey but we wound up in the suburbs of Jersey but we wound up in Freehold eventually and we lived across Freehold eventually and we lived across Freehold eventually and we lived across a farm which is kind of in Central a farm which is kind of in Central a farm which is kind of in Central Jersey it happens right and it was Jersey it happens right and it was Jersey it happens right and it was called fair chance Farm okay I was like called fair chance Farm okay I was like called fair chance Farm okay I was like how did I get this amazing right and I how did I get this amazing right and I how did I get this amazing right and I love that I that's the essence of love that I that's the essence of love that I that's the essence of America and that's what I want to go America and that's what I want to go America and that's what I want to go back to so we've got to create that back to so we've got to create that back to so we've got to create that opportunity not just because it's the moral thing to not just because it's the moral thing to do but because it's also the do but because it's also the do but because it's also the economically smart thing to do if you economically smart thing to do if you economically smart thing to do if you enable all those great people that are enable all those great people that are enable all those great people that are in in in lower income classes and middle in in in lower income classes and middle in in in lower income classes and middle inome classes you're going to get a much inome classes you're going to get a much inome classes you're going to get a much better uh economy a much stronger better uh economy a much stronger better uh economy a much stronger democracy so that's the direction we go democracy so that's the direction we go democracy so that's the direction we go so again it's Bob Allen but what do you so again it's Bob Allen but what do you so again it's Bob Allen but what do you think about Dei think about Dei think about Dei policies uh say in Academia and and

policies uh say in Academia and and policies uh say in Academia and and companies so the movement as it has companies so the movement as it has companies so the movement as it has evolved where is that on the balance is evolved where is that on the balance is evolved where is that on the balance is that uh yeah uh how far is it pushing that uh yeah uh how far is it pushing that uh yeah uh how far is it pushing towards equality of outcome versus towards equality of outcome versus towards equality of outcome versus equality of opportunity okay so now equality of opportunity okay so now equality of opportunity okay so now we're getting into social issues right we're getting into social issues right we're getting into social issues right so this is where we all uh rip each so this is where we all uh rip each so this is where we all uh rip each other apart and then the people at the other apart and then the people at the other apart and then the people at the top laugh their ass off at us and go we top laugh their ass off at us and go we top laugh their ass off at us and go we got a fighting over trans got a fighting over trans got a fighting over trans issues they're killing each other this issues they're killing each other this issues they're killing each other this hilarious ious and they're so busy they hilarious ious and they're so busy they hilarious ious and they're so busy they don't realize we're running the place don't realize we're running the place don't realize we're running the place right okay but let's engage some people right okay but let's engage some people right okay but let's engage some people will look at Dei and go well that just will look at Dei and go well that just will look at Dei and go well that just gives me an gives me an gives me an opportunity just like anyone else I love opportunity just like anyone else I love opportunity just like anyone else I love Dei another person will look at it and Dei another person will look at it and Dei another person will look at it and go no that gives that says that you go no that gives that says that you go no that gives that says that you should be picked above me and I hate Dei should be picked above me and I hate Dei should be picked above me and I hate Dei right so the reality of Dei is a little right so the reality of Dei is a little right so the reality of Dei is a little bit more complicated and so but you got bit more complicated and so but you got bit more complicated and so but you got to go back so first did we need to go back so first did we need to go back so first did we need affirmative action in the 1960s affirmative action in the 1960s affirmative action in the 1960s definitely definitely definitely why all the firefighter jobs in South why all the firefighter jobs in South why all the firefighter jobs in South Carolina as an example are are going to Carolina as an example are are going to Carolina as an example are are going to white guys all the long shoreman jobs in white guys all the long shoreman jobs in white guys all the long shoreman jobs in New York La wherever uh you have it are New York La wherever uh you have it are New York La wherever uh you have it are all going to white guys because that's all going to white guys because that's all going to white guys because that's how the system was yes also in the north how the system was yes also in the north how the system was yes also in the north right it so we now are in a civil rights right it so we now are in a civil rights right it so we now are in a civil rights area we decide we're going to go towards area we decide we're going to go towards area we decide we're going to go towards equality minorities in that case mainly equality minorities in that case mainly equality minorities in that case mainly uh Black Americans had to find a way to uh Black Americans had to find a way to uh Black Americans had to find a way to break in I'm not trying like if you're a break in I'm not trying like if you're a break in I'm not trying like if you're a long strowman and it's a good job you long strowman and it's a good job you long strowman and it's a good job you naturally want to pass it on to your son naturally want to pass it on to your son naturally want to pass it on to your son I get your instinct I don't hate you for

I get your instinct I don't hate you for I get your instinct I don't hate you for it right but we got to let black kids it right but we got to let black kids it right but we got to let black kids also have a shot at it right so you need also have a shot at it right so you need also have a shot at it right so you need it in the beginning but at a certain it in the beginning but at a certain it in the beginning but at a certain point you have to phase it out so when I point you have to phase it out so when I point you have to phase it out so when I was growing up it's now in the late 80s was growing up it's now in the late 80s was growing up it's now in the late 80s early 90s I hated affirmative action and early 90s I hated affirmative action and early 90s I hated affirmative action and I have been principled on it from day I have been principled on it from day I have been principled on it from day one I and to this day I don't I'm not in one I and to this day I don't I'm not in one I and to this day I don't I'm not in favor of affirmative action I say it on favor of affirmative action I say it on favor of affirmative action I say it on the show all the time why I'm a minority the show all the time why I'm a minority the show all the time why I'm a minority being a Turk a grew up Muslim I'm an being a Turk a grew up Muslim I'm an being a Turk a grew up Muslim I'm an athe IST now but but generally speaking athe IST now but but generally speaking athe IST now but but generally speaking a Muslim uh is certainly a minority in a Muslim uh is certainly a minority in a Muslim uh is certainly a minority in America and pretty much a hated one America and pretty much a hated one America and pretty much a hated one overall uh so but I didn't check off overall uh so but I didn't check off overall uh so but I didn't check off Muslim or Turkish or any ethnicity when Muslim or Turkish or any ethnicity when Muslim or Turkish or any ethnicity when I applied to college because I believe a I applied to college because I believe a I applied to college because I believe a in a meritocracy as we were talking in a meritocracy as we were talking in a meritocracy as we were talking about but we don't really have a about but we don't really have a about but we don't really have a meritocracy now and so but so I can come meritocracy now and so but so I can come meritocracy now and so but so I can come back to that but but right now but so I back to that but but right now but so I back to that but but right now but so I didn't check it off because I didn't didn't check it off because I didn't didn't check it off because I didn't want an unfair Advantage uh because I want an unfair Advantage uh because I want an unfair Advantage uh because I want to earn it I want to earn it so now want to earn it I want to earn it so now want to earn it I want to earn it so now I'm in law school and I'm hanging out I'm in law school and I'm hanging out I'm in law school and I'm hanging out with right-wingers because at that point with right-wingers because at that point with right-wingers because at that point I'm a Republican and one of the guy says I'm a Republican and one of the guy says I'm a Republican and one of the guy says to me about one of our a black student to me about one of our a black student to me about one of our a black student uh going to Columbia he says oh I wonder uh going to Columbia he says oh I wonder uh going to Columbia he says oh I wonder how he got in how he got in how he got in here God that is the problem with here God that is the problem with here God that is the problem with affirmative action it devalues the affirmative action it devalues the affirmative action it devalues the accomplishments of every minority in the accomplishments of every minority in the accomplishments of every minority in the country you have to transition away from country you have to transition away from country you have to transition away from it if you don't it sets up a cast system it if you don't it sets up a cast system it if you don't it sets up a cast system and that cast system is lethal to

and that cast system is lethal to and that cast system is lethal to democracy so does Dei go too far in some democracy so does Dei go too far in some democracy so does Dei go too far in some instances yes but is it a boogeyman instances yes but is it a boogeyman instances yes but is it a boogeyman that's going to take all the white jobs that's going to take all the white jobs that's going to take all the white jobs and make them black As Trump would say and make them black As Trump would say and make them black As Trump would say black jobs right and give minorities too black jobs right and give minorities too black jobs right and give minorities too much power Etc no the idea isn't to rob much power Etc no the idea isn't to rob much power Etc no the idea isn't to rob you and to give all the opportunity to you and to give all the opportunity to you and to give all the opportunity to minorities the idea is to make it equal minorities the idea is to make it equal minorities the idea is to make it equal but as the pendulum swings did it swing but as the pendulum swings did it swing but as the pendulum swings did it swing too far in some directions yes so the too far in some directions yes so the too far in some directions yes so the left can't acknowledge that and the left can't acknowledge that and the left can't acknowledge that and the right thinks can't acknowledge that of right thinks can't acknowledge that of right thinks can't acknowledge that of course at some point you got to give a course at some point you got to give a course at some point you got to give a chance for others to break in so they chance for others to break in so they chance for others to break in so they have a fair chance by the way Michelle have a fair chance by the way Michelle have a fair chance by the way Michelle Obama had a good line about the black Obama had a good line about the black Obama had a good line about the black jobs in the uh the DNC spech where uh jobs in the uh the DNC spech where uh jobs in the uh the DNC spech where uh somebody should tell Trump that the somebody should tell Trump that the somebody should tell Trump that the presidency might be just one of those presidency might be just one of those presidency might be just one of those black black black jobs anyway uh but why do you think the jobs anyway uh but why do you think the jobs anyway uh but why do you think the left doesn't acknowledge when di gets left doesn't acknowledge when di gets left doesn't acknowledge when di gets ridiculous which it uh in certain places ridiculous which it uh in certain places ridiculous which it uh in certain places and in certain places at a large scale and in certain places at a large scale and in certain places at a large scale has has gotten has has gotten has has gotten ridiculous because uh people are taught ridiculous because uh people are taught ridiculous because uh people are taught uh to just be in the tribe they in and uh to just be in the tribe they in and uh to just be in the tribe they in and to believe it 100% like I've gotten to believe it 100% like I've gotten to believe it 100% like I've gotten kicked out of every Tri I'm the I might kicked out of every Tri I'm the I might kicked out of every Tri I'm the I might be the most attacked man in Internet be the most attacked man in Internet be the most attacked man in Internet history partly because we've been around history partly because we've been around history partly because we've been around forever and partly because I disagree forever and partly because I disagree forever and partly because I disagree with every part of the political with every part of the political with every part of the political spectrum because I believe in spectrum because I believe in spectrum because I believe in independent thought and the minute you independent thought and the minute you independent thought and the minute you vary a little bit people go nuts and so vary a little bit people go nuts and so vary a little bit people go nuts and so the the far-left tribe uh the the far-left tribe uh the the far-left tribe uh is going to go with their preset

is going to go with their preset is going to go with their preset ideology just like the far right tribe ideology just like the far right tribe ideology just like the far right tribe is so for example on trans issues we've is so for example on trans issues we've is so for example on trans issues we've protected trans people for over 20 years protected trans people for over 20 years protected trans people for over 20 years on The Young Turks we fought for on The Young Turks we fought for on The Young Turks we fought for equality for Trans people and for all equality for Trans people and for all equality for Trans people and for all lgbtq people for two decades we did it lgbtq people for two decades we did it lgbtq people for two decades we did it way before anyone else did when Biden way before anyone else did when Biden way before anyone else did when Biden came out uh in favor of gay marriage in came out uh in favor of gay marriage in came out uh in favor of gay marriage in 2013 we're like this is comically late 2013 we're like this is comically late 2013 we're like this is comically late so like we're all supposed to like so like we're all supposed to like so like we're all supposed to like congratulate him in the year 2013 that congratulate him in the year 2013 that congratulate him in the year 2013 that he thinks gay people should have the he thinks gay people should have the he thinks gay people should have the same rights as straight people and then same rights as straight people and then same rights as straight people and then he had to push Obama to get there right he had to push Obama to get there right he had to push Obama to get there right so on the other hand I'm like guys if so on the other hand I'm like guys if so on the other hand I'm like guys if you allow trans women to go into you allow trans women to go into you allow trans women to go into professional sports not at the high professional sports not at the high professional sports not at the high school level but professional sports but school level but professional sports but school level but professional sports but let's say they go into MMA or boxing and let's say they go into MMA or boxing and let's say they go into MMA or boxing and a trans woman I mean it happens in a trans woman I mean it happens in a trans woman I mean it happens in boxing it happens in MMA punches a a boxing it happens in MMA punches a a boxing it happens in MMA punches a a biologic woman so hard that he that she biologic woman so hard that he that she biologic woman so hard that he that she kills her right so you're going to set kills her right so you're going to set kills her right so you're going to set back trans rights 50 years I'm not back trans rights 50 years I'm not back trans rights 50 years I'm not trying to hurt you I'm trying to help trying to hurt you I'm trying to help trying to hurt you I'm trying to help you you have to do bounds of reason so you you have to do bounds of reason so you you have to do bounds of reason so when I say simple things like that and I when I say simple things like that and I when I say simple things like that and I say you give LeBron James every hormone say you give LeBron James every hormone say you give LeBron James every hormone Blocker on planet Earth he's still going Blocker on planet Earth he's still going Blocker on planet Earth he's still going to dominate the WNBA okay it would be to dominate the WNBA okay it would be to dominate the WNBA okay it would be comical he might score 100 points a comical he might score 100 points a comical he might score 100 points a night okay and they'll say that's night okay and they'll say that's night okay and they'll say that's outrageous and they've some have called outrageous and they've some have called outrageous and they've some have called me Nazi for saying that trans women or me Nazi for saying that trans women or me Nazi for saying that trans women or that professional leagues should make

that professional leagues should make that professional leagues should make their own decisions on whether they their own decisions on whether they their own decisions on whether they allow trans women are in or not so why allow trans women are in or not so why allow trans women are in or not so why do they say that because they're so do they say that because they're so do they say that because they're so besieged they think we cannot give an besieged they think we cannot give an besieged they think we cannot give an inch we cannot give any ground if you inch we cannot give any ground if you inch we cannot give any ground if you give any ground you're a Nazi Okay so give any ground you're a Nazi Okay so give any ground you're a Nazi Okay so we've got to get out of that mindset we've got to get out of that mindset we've got to get out of that mindset you're not you can't function in a you're not you can't function in a you're not you can't function in a democracy and be in an extreme position democracy and be in an extreme position democracy and be in an extreme position and expect the rest of the country to go and expect the rest of the country to go and expect the rest of the country to go go towards your extreme position so why go towards your extreme position so why go towards your extreme position so why do you think we are not in a do you think we are not in a do you think we are not in a meritocracy so because of the corruption meritocracy so because of the corruption meritocracy so because of the corruption it's so for example but there's also but it's so for example but there's also but it's so for example but there's also but remember corporate media is the Matrix remember corporate media is the Matrix remember corporate media is the Matrix and they plug you into cable right in and they plug you into cable right in and they plug you into cable right in the old days now it's a little bit the old days now it's a little bit the old days now it's a little bit different because of online media but different because of online media but different because of online media but especially 10 years ago and remember we especially 10 years ago and remember we especially 10 years ago and remember we started 22 years ago so I've Been Losing started 22 years ago so I've Been Losing started 22 years ago so I've Been Losing My Mind Over how obvious corporate media My Mind Over how obvious corporate media My Mind Over how obvious corporate media corruption has been for decades now corruption has been for decades now corruption has been for decades now right but no one acknowledged it until right but no one acknowledged it until right but no one acknowledged it until online media got stronger but one of the online media got stronger but one of the online media got stronger but one of the myths that corporate media creates is myths that corporate media creates is myths that corporate media creates is the myth of meritocracy not that the myth of meritocracy not that the myth of meritocracy not that meritocracy can't exist or shouldn't meritocracy can't exist or shouldn't meritocracy can't exist or shouldn't exist but they pretend it exists today exist but they pretend it exists today exist but they pretend it exists today so the problem with that myth Lex is so the problem with that myth Lex is so the problem with that myth Lex is that it gets people thinking well if that it gets people thinking well if that it gets people thinking well if they're already rich they must have they're already rich they must have they're already rich they must have merited it by definition so all the rich merited it by definition so all the rich merited it by definition so all the rich have Merit and the reverse of that if if have Merit and the reverse of that if if have Merit and the reverse of that if if you're poor middle class well you must you're poor middle class well you must you're poor middle class well you must not have merited wealth so you're no not have merited wealth so you're no not have merited wealth so you're no good we don't have to listen to you and

good we don't have to listen to you and good we don't have to listen to you and that's a really dangerous awful idea and that's a really dangerous awful idea and that's a really dangerous awful idea and so if we get to a de meritocracy one day so if we get to a de meritocracy one day so if we get to a de meritocracy one day I would I'll be the happiest person in I would I'll be the happiest person in I would I'll be the happiest person in America but right now it's look here America but right now it's look here America but right now it's look here I'll give you an example that I put in I'll give you an example that I put in I'll give you an example that I put in the book and they and it's not us this the book and they and it's not us this the book and they and it's not us this other folks in this YouTube video I other folks in this YouTube video I other folks in this YouTube video I can't even quite find out who they were can't even quite find out who they were can't even quite find out who they were but it was a brilliant video um and they but it was a brilliant video um and they but it was a brilliant video um and they said okay we're going to do 100 yard said okay we're going to do 100 yard said okay we're going to do 100 yard race but hold on before we start anyone race but hold on before we start anyone race but hold on before we start anyone who has two parents take two steps who has two parents take two steps who has two parents take two steps forward anyone who has went to college forward anyone who has went to college forward anyone who has went to college take another two steps forward anyone take another two steps forward anyone take another two steps forward anyone who doesn't have bills to pay for who doesn't have bills to pay for who doesn't have bills to pay for Education anymore take two steps forward Education anymore take two steps forward Education anymore take two steps forward they do all these things right and then they do all these things right and then they do all these things right and then at the end before they start somebody's at the end before they start somebody's at the end before they start somebody's 20 yards from the finish line and a lot 20 yards from the finish line and a lot 20 yards from the finish line and a lot of people are still at the starting line of people are still at the starting line of people are still at the starting line and then they go okay now we're going to and then they go okay now we're going to and then they go okay now we're going to run a race and the guy who's right next run a race and the guy who's right next run a race and the guy who's right next to the Finish Line wins and they go to the Finish Line wins and they go to the Finish Line wins and they go meritocracy okay so the the the meritocracy okay so the the the meritocracy okay so the the the challenge there is to know which challenge there is to know which challenge there is to know which disparities when you just freeze the disparities when you just freeze the disparities when you just freeze the system and observe are actually a result system and observe are actually a result system and observe are actually a result of some kind of discrimination or flaw of some kind of discrimination or flaw of some kind of discrimination or flaw in the system versus the result of in the system versus the result of in the system versus the result of meritocracy of the better of the better meritocracy of the better of the better meritocracy of the better of the better Runner being ahead that's right there Runner being ahead that's right there Runner being ahead that's right there are some parts that are easy to solve are some parts that are easy to solve are some parts that are easy to solve Lex so you know um if you donated to a Lex so you know um if you donated to a Lex so you know um if you donated to a politician and he gave you a billion politician and he gave you a billion politician and he gave you a billion dollar subsidy that's not meritocracy dollar subsidy that's not meritocracy dollar subsidy that's not meritocracy right so if you fall in the money you right so if you fall in the money you right so if you fall in the money you can see the flaws in the system exactly can see the flaws in the system exactly can see the flaws in the system exactly and so and again nothing's ever perfect and so and again nothing's ever perfect and so and again nothing's ever perfect at any snapshot of History right or of

at any snapshot of History right or of at any snapshot of History right or of the moment you're going to be at some the moment you're going to be at some the moment you're going to be at some point in the pendulum swing but if you point in the pendulum swing but if you point in the pendulum swing but if you let if you trust the people and you let let if you trust the people and you let let if you trust the people and you let the pendulum swing but not wildly then the pendulum swing but not wildly then the pendulum swing but not wildly then you're going to get to the right answers you're going to get to the right answers you're going to get to the right answers in the long run so you think uh this in the long run so you think uh this in the long run so you think uh this woke mind virus that the right refers to woke mind virus that the right refers to woke mind virus that the right refers to is is is a problem but not a big problem is is is a problem but not a big problem is is is a problem but not a big problem no no no so the rightwing drives me crazy so look so the rightwing drives me crazy so look so the rightwing drives me crazy so look guys your instincts of populism is guys your instincts of populism is guys your instincts of populism is correct your instincts of correct your instincts of correct your instincts of anti-corruption is correct right and I anti-corruption is correct right and I anti-corruption is correct right and I love you for it and so and in a lot of love you for it and so and in a lot of love you for it and so and in a lot of ways the right-wing voters figured out ways the right-wing voters figured out ways the right-wing voters figured out the whole system screwed before leftwing the whole system screwed before leftwing the whole system screwed before leftwing voters did it I shouldn't say leftwing voters did it I shouldn't say leftwing voters did it I shouldn't say leftwing voters because progressives and leftwing voters because progressives and leftwing voters because progressives and leftwing have been saying it for not only decades have been saying it for not only decades have been saying it for not only decades but maybe centuries right but Democratic but maybe centuries right but Democratic but maybe centuries right but Democratic voters a lot of Democratic voters some voters a lot of Democratic voters some voters a lot of Democratic voters some of them actually like this current of them actually like this current of them actually like this current system some of them a lot of them have system some of them a lot of them have system some of them a lot of them have been tricked into liking this current been tricked into liking this current been tricked into liking this current system and the left should be fighting system and the left should be fighting system and the left should be fighting against corruption harder than the right against corruption harder than the right against corruption harder than the right but right now unfortunately that's not but right now unfortunately that's not but right now unfortunately that's not the case so there's a lot that I like the case so there's a lot that I like the case so there's a lot that I like about right-wing voters okay but you about right-wing voters okay but you about right-wing voters okay but you guys get tricked on social issues so guys get tricked on social issues so guys get tricked on social issues so easily right so how many people are easily right so how many people are easily right so how many people are involved in trans High School sports and involved in trans High School sports and involved in trans High School sports and a girl who should have finished first in a girl who should have finished first in a girl who should have finished first in that track thing you race in the middle that track thing you race in the middle that track thing you race in the middle of Indiana finished second first of all of Indiana finished second first of all of Indiana finished second first of all this is the big crime this is and how this is the big crime this is and how this is the big crime this is and how many people are involved about s 13 out

many people are involved about s 13 out many people are involved about s 13 out of a country of 330 million people and of a country of 330 million people and of a country of 330 million people and you can't see that that's a distraction you can't see that that's a distraction you can't see that that's a distraction right so and every everything they that right so and every everything they that right so and every everything they that that is like bait that the right-wing that is like bait that the right-wing that is like bait that the right-wing media puts out there they run after I media puts out there they run after I media puts out there they run after I mean tuer Carlson doing insane segments mean tuer Carlson doing insane segments mean tuer Carlson doing insane segments about &m should be sexier about &m should be sexier about &m should be sexier uh Potato Mr Potato Head has gender uh Potato Mr Potato Head has gender uh Potato Mr Potato Head has gender issues guys get out of there get out of issues guys get out of there get out of issues guys get out of there get out of there it's a trap okay yeah that doesn't there it's a trap okay yeah that doesn't there it's a trap okay yeah that doesn't mean that there absolutely it doesn't mean that there absolutely it doesn't mean that there absolutely it doesn't mean there's larger scale issues with mean there's larger scale issues with mean there's larger scale issues with things like Dei that aren't so fun to things like Dei that aren't so fun to things like Dei that aren't so fun to talk about or viral to talk about on an talk about or viral to talk about on an talk about or viral to talk about on an anecdotal scale there is uh di does anecdotal scale there is uh di does anecdotal scale there is uh di does create a Culture of Fear with with canza create a Culture of Fear with with canza create a Culture of Fear with with canza culture and it it does create a kind of culture and it it does create a kind of culture and it it does create a kind of culture that limits the freedom of uh culture that limits the freedom of uh culture that limits the freedom of uh expression and it does limit the expression and it does limit the expression and it does limit the meritocracy in another way so you're meritocracy in another way so you're meritocracy in another way so you're you're basically saying forget all these you're basically saying forget all these you're basically saying forget all these other other other problems money is the biggest problem so problems money is the biggest problem so problems money is the biggest problem so first of all on AOC as an example and I first of all on AOC as an example and I first of all on AOC as an example and I don't mean to pick on her but she won don't mean to pick on her but she won don't mean to pick on her but she won through the great work of her and shott through the great work of her and shott through the great work of her and shott chakrabarti and Corbin Trent and others chakrabarti and Corbin Trent and others chakrabarti and Corbin Trent and others who were leaders of the Justice who were leaders of the Justice who were leaders of the Justice Democrats that went and helped our Democrats that went and helped our Democrats that went and helped our campaign they were critical help and we campaign they were critical help and we campaign they were critical help and we all told her the same thing so it's not all told her the same thing so it's not all told her the same thing so it's not about me me me and so we all said you've about me me me and so we all said you've about me me me and so we all said you've got to challenge The Establishment and got to challenge The Establishment and got to challenge The Establishment and you got to work on money and politics

you got to work on money and politics you got to work on money and politics first because if you don't work on money first because if you don't work on money first because if you don't work on money and politics and you don't fix that and politics and you don't fix that and politics and you don't fix that you're going to lose on almost all other you're going to lose on almost all other you're going to lose on almost all other issues but she didn't believe us because issues but she didn't believe us because issues but she didn't believe us because it's uncomfortable and all the it's uncomfortable and all the it's uncomfortable and all the progressors that went into Congress they progressors that went into Congress they progressors that went into Congress they drive me crazy they think oh no no drive me crazy they think oh no no drive me crazy they think oh no no you're exaggerating no these are and the you're exaggerating no these are and the you're exaggerating no these are and the minute they get in all a sudden my minute they get in all a sudden my minute they get in all a sudden my colleagues right your colleagues hate colleagues right your colleagues hate colleagues right your colleagues hate you and they're going to drive you out you and they're going to drive you out you and they're going to drive you out you're a sucker and and Jamal Bowman you're a sucker and and Jamal Bowman you're a sucker and and Jamal Bowman Corey Bush what did they do they drove Corey Bush what did they do they drove Corey Bush what did they do they drove them out Marie Newman drove them out them out Marie Newman drove them out them out Marie Newman drove them out right and because they're not on your right and because they're not on your right and because they're not on your side they're not your colleagues and side they're not your colleagues and side they're not your colleagues and what happened to $15 minimum wage and I what happened to $15 minimum wage and I what happened to $15 minimum wage and I remember talking to one of those remember talking to one of those remember talking to one of those Congress people I won't leave out the Congress people I won't leave out the Congress people I won't leave out the name and saying hey you know they're not name and saying hey you know they're not name and saying hey you know they're not going to do $15 minimum wage and he's going to do $15 minimum wage and he's going to do $15 minimum wage and he's like oh Jen you're out of the loop Nancy like oh Jen you're out of the loop Nancy like oh Jen you're out of the loop Nancy Pelosi is sure us that they are going to Pelosi is sure us that they are going to Pelosi is sure us that they are going to do $15 minimum wage I'm do $15 minimum wage I'm do $15 minimum wage I'm like I love you but you're totally wrong like I love you but you're totally wrong like I love you but you're totally wrong moneyed interests are not going to do moneyed interests are not going to do moneyed interests are not going to do $15 minimum wage you have to start $15 minimum wage you have to start $15 minimum wage you have to start fighting now right and they didn't get fighting now right and they didn't get fighting now right and they didn't get it so they lost on almost all those it so they lost on almost all those it so they lost on almost all those issues CU it's all about incentives and issues CU it's all about incentives and issues CU it's all about incentives and disincentives and rules if you don't fix disincentives and rules if you don't fix disincentives and rules if you don't fix the rules you're going to constantly run the rules you're going to constantly run the rules you're going to constantly run into the same brick wall now the second into the same brick wall now the second into the same brick wall now the second issue that we were talking about is in issue that we were talking about is in issue that we were talking about is in the culture wars the rest of us are the culture wars the rest of us are the culture wars the rest of us are stuck between the two extreme two stuck between the two extreme two stuck between the two extreme two centers right on both sides so the two centers right on both sides so the two centers right on both sides so the two Center on the left goes you know if Center on the left goes you know if Center on the left goes you know if you're a white woman you need to shut up you're a white woman you need to shut up you're a white woman you need to shut up and listen now okay that's ridiculous no

and listen now okay that's ridiculous no and listen now okay that's ridiculous no you don't if you're a white woman you you don't if you're a white woman you you don't if you're a white woman you have every right to speak out you have have every right to speak out you have have every right to speak out you have every right that every other human being every right that every other human being every right that every other human being has and so would I love for one all of has and so would I love for one all of has and so would I love for one all of us to listen to one each one another to us to listen to one each one another to us to listen to one each one another to have empathy for one another and go hey have empathy for one another and go hey have empathy for one another and go hey I wonder how a right-winger thinks about I wonder how a right-winger thinks about I wonder how a right-winger thinks about this I wonder how a left Wier thinks this I wonder how a left Wier thinks this I wonder how a left Wier thinks about this I wonder why they think that about this I wonder why they think that about this I wonder why they think that way right I love that and I want that so way right I love that and I want that so way right I love that and I want that so I want you to listen but I don't want I want you to listen but I don't want I want you to listen but I don't want you to shut up so that 2% gets extreme you to shut up so that 2% gets extreme you to shut up so that 2% gets extreme and I and I don't like it but on the and I and I don't like it but on the and I and I don't like it but on the right wi you got your 2% who think that right wi you got your 2% who think that right wi you got your 2% who think that that's all that's happening on the left that's all that's happening on the left that's all that's happening on the left and that's all that's happening in and that's all that's happening in and that's all that's happening in American politics and they think the American politics and they think the American politics and they think the entire left believes that tiny 2% right entire left believes that tiny 2% right entire left believes that tiny 2% right and so they hate the left and they're and so they hate the left and they're and so they hate the left and they're like I'm not going to shut up I'm not like I'm not going to shut up I'm not like I'm not going to shut up I'm not going to wear a mask I'm not going to do going to wear a mask I'm not going to do going to wear a mask I'm not going to do any of these things and I'm not going to any of these things and I'm not going to any of these things and I'm not going to do that's a freedom and and then a do that's a freedom and and then a do that's a freedom and and then a republican comes along and goes oh yeah republican comes along and goes oh yeah republican comes along and goes oh yeah that thing you call Freedom that's that thing you call Freedom that's that thing you call Freedom that's deregulation for corporations because deregulation for corporations because deregulation for corporations because you shouldn't really have freedom you shouldn't really have freedom you shouldn't really have freedom companies should have freedom right and companies should have freedom right and companies should have freedom right and then the guy goes yeah freedom for Exxon then the guy goes yeah freedom for Exxon then the guy goes yeah freedom for Exxon Mobile no brother they tricked you yeah Mobile no brother they tricked you yeah Mobile no brother they tricked you yeah that the 2% on each side is a useful that the 2% on each side is a useful that the 2% on each side is a useful distraction for yes for the corruption distraction for yes for the corruption distraction for yes for the corruption of the politicians via money still we're of the politicians via money still we're of the politicians via money still we're I'm talking about the 96% that remains I'm talking about the 96% that remains I'm talking about the 96% that remains in the middle and the impact of Dei in the middle and the impact of Dei in the middle and the impact of Dei policies says on them yeah so here policies says on them yeah so here policies says on them yeah so here here's where it gets absurd I'll give here's where it gets absurd I'll give here's where it gets absurd I'll give you a good example of absurdity so you a good example of absurdity so you a good example of absurdity so um in in a school I believe in um in in a school I believe in um in in a school I believe in California uh they uh noticed that California uh they uh noticed that California uh they uh noticed that Latino students were not doing as well

Latino students were not doing as well Latino students were not doing as well in AP and honors classes so they in AP and honors classes so they in AP and honors classes so they canceled AP and honors classes oh come canceled AP and honors classes oh come canceled AP and honors classes oh come on what are you doing you're that's nuts on what are you doing you're that's nuts on what are you doing you're that's nuts no your job is to help them get better no your job is to help them get better no your job is to help them get better grades get better opportunity Etc that's grades get better opportunity Etc that's grades get better opportunity Etc that's the harder thing to do and the right the harder thing to do and the right the harder thing to do and the right thing to do the your job isn't I'm going thing to do the your job isn't I'm going thing to do the your job isn't I'm going to make everything equal by taking away to make everything equal by taking away to make everything equal by taking away the opportunity for Higher Achievement the opportunity for Higher Achievement the opportunity for Higher Achievement for other students if that's what you're for other students if that's what you're for other students if that's what you're doing and you think you're on the left doing and you think you're on the left doing and you think you're on the left you're not really on the left I actually you're not really on the left I actually you're not really on the left I actually think that's like an authoritarian think that's like an authoritarian think that's like an authoritarian position that a no Progressive in their position that a no Progressive in their position that a no Progressive in their right mind would be in favor of so but right mind would be in favor of so but right mind would be in favor of so but it's all definitional so here's another it's all definitional so here's another it's all definitional so here's another example of definitional Communism like example of definitional Communism like example of definitional Communism like they say oh my God KLA Harris is a they say oh my God KLA Harris is a they say oh my God KLA Harris is a communist well communist well communist well when you're telling on yourself brothers when you're telling on yourself brothers when you're telling on yourself brothers and sisters when you say that that means and sisters when you say that that means and sisters when you say that that means a I don't know what communism means and a I don't know what communism means and a I don't know what communism means and B I don't have any idea what's going on B I don't have any idea what's going on B I don't have any idea what's going on in American politics kamla Harris is a in American politics kamla Harris is a in American politics kamla Harris is a corporatist that's her problem not that corporatist that's her problem not that corporatist that's her problem not that she's a communist she's on the other end she's a communist she's on the other end she's a communist she's on the other end of the spectrum right the I the idea of the spectrum right the I the idea of the spectrum right the I the idea that KLA Harris would come into office that KLA Harris would come into office that KLA Harris would come into office and say that's it there's no more and say that's it there's no more and say that's it there's no more private property we're going to take all private property we're going to take all private property we're going to take all of your homes and the St government of your homes and the St government of your homes and the St government property the all your cars Etc she was property the all your cars Etc she was property the all your cars Etc she was not going to get within a billion miles not going to get within a billion miles not going to get within a billion miles of that her donors would never allow her of that her donors would never allow her of that her donors would never allow her to get within a billion miles of that to get within a billion miles of that to get within a billion miles of that that is so Preposterous that when you that is so Preposterous that when you that is so Preposterous that when you say something like that it's say something like that it's say something like that it's disqualifying like I can't debate disqualifying like I can't debate disqualifying like I can't debate someone who thinks that Democrats are someone who thinks that Democrats are someone who thinks that Democrats are communists when they're actually largely

communists when they're actually largely communists when they're actually largely corporatist you see what I'm saying yeah corporatist you see what I'm saying yeah corporatist you see what I'm saying yeah so let's go there so when people call so let's go there so when people call so let's go there so when people call her a communist they're usually her a communist they're usually her a communist they're usually referring to certain kinds of policies referring to certain kinds of policies referring to certain kinds of policies so do you think um um I mean I think so do you think um um I mean I think so do you think um um I mean I think it's a it's a ridiculous label able to it's a it's a ridiculous label able to it's a it's a ridiculous label able to assign to Comm Harris especially um assign to Comm Harris especially um assign to Comm Harris especially um given the history of Communism in the given the history of Communism in the given the history of Communism in the 20th century and what those economic and 20th century and what those economic and 20th century and what those economic and political uh policies have led to the political uh policies have led to the political uh policies have led to the the scale of suffering that led to and the scale of suffering that led to and the scale of suffering that led to and it just degrades the meaning of the word it just degrades the meaning of the word it just degrades the meaning of the word right but to take that seriously why is right but to take that seriously why is right but to take that seriously why is she not a communist so you said she's she not a communist so you said she's she not a communist so you said she's not a communist because she's a not a communist because she's a not a communist because she's a corporatist okay but corporatist okay but corporatist okay but that that can't be okay everybody in that that can't be okay everybody in that that can't be okay everybody in politics is a corporate just almost politics is a corporate just almost politics is a corporate just almost almost everybody in politics at corporat almost everybody in politics at corporat almost everybody in politics at corporat but that doesn't mean the corporations but that doesn't mean the corporations but that doesn't mean the corporations have completely bought their mind they have completely bought their mind they have completely bought their mind they have an influence on their mind on have an influence on their mind on have an influence on their mind on issues that matter to those corporations issues that matter to those corporations issues that matter to those corporations yep right like y outside of that they're yep right like y outside of that they're yep right like y outside of that they're still thinking for the voters because still thinking for the voters because still thinking for the voters because they still have to win the votes they still have to win the votes they still have to win the votes barely okay so here let me give you barely okay so here let me give you barely okay so here let me give you example so you you see what I'm saying example so you you see what I'm saying example so you you see what I'm saying so if you just wanted votes um you would so if you just wanted votes um you would so if you just wanted votes um you would do a lot of what Tim Walls did okay okay do a lot of what Tim Walls did okay okay do a lot of what Tim Walls did okay okay and and by the way a lot of what Bernie and and by the way a lot of what Bernie and and by the way a lot of what Bernie did that's why Bernie who had no media did that's why Bernie who had no media did that's why Bernie who had no media coverage went from like 2% in 2015 to by coverage went from like 2% in 2015 to by coverage went from like 2% in 2015 to by the end about 48% because he was just the end about 48% because he was just the end about 48% because he was just doing things that were popular right and doing things that were popular right and doing things that were popular right and that American people wanted Etc right that American people wanted Etc right that American people wanted Etc right because he's not controlled by

because he's not controlled by because he's not controlled by corporations by the way neither is Tom corporations by the way neither is Tom corporations by the way neither is Tom Massie on the right-wing side on the Massie on the right-wing side on the Massie on the right-wing side on the Republican side right so it's not all Republican side right so it's not all Republican side right so it's not all that's why I always say almost all right that's why I always say almost all right that's why I always say almost all right so if you're doing things that are so if you're doing things that are so if you're doing things that are popular people love it so today what popular people love it so today what popular people love it so today what would KLA Harris do if she actually just would KLA Harris do if she actually just would KLA Harris do if she actually just wanted to win right so number one she wanted to win right so number one she wanted to win right so number one she was try to pass Paid Family Leave right was try to pass Paid Family Leave right was try to pass Paid Family Leave right now why it pulls it now why it pulls it now why it pulls it 84% and even 74% of Republicans want it 84% and even 74% of Republicans want it 84% and even 74% of Republicans want it why because it says hey when you have a why because it says hey when you have a why because it says hey when you have a baby you should get 12 weeks off bond baby you should get 12 weeks off bond baby you should get 12 weeks off bond with your baby uh right with your baby uh right with your baby uh right now for in a lot of states that don't now for in a lot of states that don't now for in a lot of states that don't have paid family leave you have to go have paid family leave you have to go have paid family leave you have to go back to work the very next day or you back to work the very next day or you back to work the very next day or you have to use all of your sick days all have to use all of your sick days all have to use all of your sick days all your vacation days just have two one or your vacation days just have two one or your vacation days just have two one or two weeks with your baby right so two weeks with your baby right so two weeks with your baby right so conservatives love Paid Family Leave conservatives love Paid Family Leave conservatives love Paid Family Leave liberals love Paid Family Leave that's liberals love Paid Family Leave that's liberals love Paid Family Leave that's why it poll so high so why isn't she why it poll so high so why isn't she why it poll so high so why isn't she proposing it it's not in our economic proposing it it's not in our economic proposing it it's not in our economic plan Tim Walls already passed it in plan Tim Walls already passed it in plan Tim Walls already passed it in Minnesota he showed how easy it was if Minnesota he showed how easy it was if Minnesota he showed how easy it was if you want votes it's and then you know you want votes it's and then you know you want votes it's and then you know what's going to happen if you propose what's going to happen if you propose what's going to happen if you propose Paid Family Leave the Republicans are Paid Family Leave the Republicans are Paid Family Leave the Republicans are going to go no our beloved corporations going to go no our beloved corporations going to go no our beloved corporations don't want to spend another dollar on don't want to spend another dollar on don't want to spend another dollar on mobs right and they fall for that trap mobs right and they fall for that trap mobs right and they fall for that trap and then you're in infinitely better and then you're in infinitely better and then you're in infinitely better shape so why why doesn't she do it she shape so why why doesn't she do it she shape so why why doesn't she do it she doesn't do it because her corporate doesn't do it because her corporate doesn't do it because her corporate donors don't want her to do it $15 donors don't want her to do it $15 donors don't want her to do it $15 minimum wage layup over two-thirds of minimum wage layup over two-thirds of minimum wage layup over two-thirds of the country wants it because it not only the country wants it because it not only the country wants it because it not only gives higher wages for minimum wage gives higher wages for minimum wage gives higher wages for minimum wage folks but it pushes wages up for others folks but it pushes wages up for others folks but it pushes wages up for others and what do the elit say oh that's going and what do the elit say oh that's going and what do the elit say oh that's going to drive up inflation you shouldn't get

to drive up inflation you shouldn't get to drive up inflation you shouldn't get paid anymore wait wait wait hold on so paid anymore wait wait wait hold on so paid anymore wait wait wait hold on so you're saying all the other prices you're saying all the other prices you're saying all the other prices should go up but the only thing that should go up but the only thing that should go up but the only thing that shouldn't go up is our wages no our shouldn't go up is our wages no our shouldn't go up is our wages no our wages should go up okay so these are all wages should go up okay so these are all wages should go up okay so these are all easy ones here's another one easy ones here's another one easy ones here's another one anti-corruption why isn't she running on anti-corruption why isn't she running on anti-corruption why isn't she running on getting money out of politics it pulls getting money out of politics it pulls getting money out of politics it pulls it over it over it over 90% why isn't Trump running on it 90% why isn't Trump running on it 90% why isn't Trump running on it anymore he won when he ran out it in anymore he won when he ran out it in anymore he won when he ran out it in 2016 he didn't mean a word of it but he 2016 he didn't mean a word of it but he 2016 he didn't mean a word of it but he he ran on it it was smart they don't do he ran on it it was smart they don't do he ran on it it was smart they don't do it because their corporate donors take it because their corporate donors take it because their corporate donors take their heads off if they do so in their heads off if they do so in their heads off if they do so in contradiction to that why did she contradiction to that why did she contradiction to that why did she propose to raise the the corporate uh propose to raise the the corporate uh propose to raise the the corporate uh tax rate from whatever 21% to 28% tax rate from whatever 21% to 28% tax rate from whatever 21% to 28% because that's easy because that is because that's easy because that is because that's easy because that is something that's super popular and she's something that's super popular and she's something that's super popular and she's not going to do it that's why so so guys not going to do it that's why so so guys not going to do it that's why so so guys this is this is where I break the hearts this is this is where I break the hearts this is this is where I break the hearts of blue Maga uh blue Maga thinks oh my of blue Maga uh blue Maga thinks oh my of blue Maga uh blue Maga thinks oh my God these Democrats they're angels and God these Democrats they're angels and God these Democrats they're angels and the right-wingers and the Republicans the right-wingers and the Republicans the right-wingers and the Republicans are evil and and they they work for big are evil and and they they work for big are evil and and they they work for big business but not KLA Harris not Joe business but not KLA Harris not Joe business but not KLA Harris not Joe Biden right okay well Donald Trump took Biden right okay well Donald Trump took Biden right okay well Donald Trump took the corporate tax rate from 35% to 21% the corporate tax rate from 35% to 21% the corporate tax rate from 35% to 21% so that's trillions of dollars that got so that's trillions of dollars that got so that's trillions of dollars that got transferred cuz guys you got to transferred cuz guys you got to transferred cuz guys you got to understand if the corporations don't pay understand if the corporations don't pay understand if the corporations don't pay it we have to pay it because we're it we have to pay it because we're it we have to pay it because we're running up these giant deficits and running up these giant deficits and running up these giant deficits and eventually either they're going to not eventually either they're going to not eventually either they're going to not eventually they keep raising our taxes eventually they keep raising our taxes eventually they keep raising our taxes in different ways that you're not in different ways that you're not in different ways that you're not noticing they keep increasing fees and noticing they keep increasing fees and noticing they keep increasing fees and fines and different ways for the fines and different ways for the fines and different ways for the government to collect money so we're

government to collect money so we're government to collect money so we're paying for it and on top of that paying for it and on top of that paying for it and on top of that eventually they're going to cut your eventually they're going to cut your eventually they're going to cut your Social Security and Medicare because Social Security and Medicare because Social Security and Medicare because they're going to say oh we don't have they're going to say oh we don't have they're going to say oh we don't have any options left anymore yeah you don't any options left anymore yeah you don't any options left anymore yeah you don't have any options left anymore because have any options left anymore because have any options left anymore because you kept giving trillions of dollars in you kept giving trillions of dollars in you kept giving trillions of dollars in tax CS to corporations tax CS to corporations tax CS to corporations so we're going to have to pay for that so we're going to have to pay for that so we're going to have to pay for that so then Trump then Biden says oh my God so then Trump then Biden says oh my God so then Trump then Biden says oh my God I'm going to bring corporate taxes back I'm going to bring corporate taxes back I'm going to bring corporate taxes back up to 28% I'm like wait hold on they up to 28% I'm like wait hold on they up to 28% I'm like wait hold on they were 35 you already did a slide of hand were 35 you already did a slide of hand were 35 you already did a slide of hand and said 28 okay then he gets into and said 28 okay then he gets into and said 28 okay then he gets into office and Mansion says no 25 that's the office and Mansion says no 25 that's the office and Mansion says no 25 that's the highest you I'll go and he goes okay highest you I'll go and he goes okay highest you I'll go and he goes okay fine 25 and then while you're not fine 25 and then while you're not fine 25 and then while you're not looking they just dump it they don't looking they just dump it they don't looking they just dump it they don't even do 25 it's still a 21 so I hear me even do 25 it's still a 21 so I hear me even do 25 it's still a 21 so I hear me now quote me later I do on the show all now quote me later I do on the show all now quote me later I do on the show all the time cuz you you should hold me the time cuz you you should hold me the time cuz you you should hold me accountable you should hold all your accountable you should hold all your accountable you should hold all your opponents accountable if you held all opponents accountable if you held all opponents accountable if you held all your opponents accountable we'd be the your opponents accountable we'd be the your opponents accountable we'd be the last man standing and that's kind of last man standing and that's kind of last man standing and that's kind of what happened okay so I guarantee you what happened okay so I guarantee you what happened okay so I guarantee you she will not increase corporate taxes so she will not increase corporate taxes so she will not increase corporate taxes so would the same be the case for Price would the same be the case for Price would the same be the case for Price controls or the anti- price gouging that controls or the anti- price gouging that controls or the anti- price gouging that she's supposing it's not price controls she's supposing it's not price controls she's supposing it's not price controls it's price G anti price gouging it it is it's price G anti price gouging it it is it's price G anti price gouging it it is price controls but I mean minimum wages price controls but I mean minimum wages price controls but I mean minimum wages price controls also now we're going to price controls also now we're going to price controls also now we're going to get into a lot of minutia but I'll try get into a lot of minutia but I'll try get into a lot of minutia but I'll try to keep it Broad to keep it Broad to keep it Broad so price controls are a disaster they so price controls are a disaster they so price controls are a disaster they never work if you say oh here's a banana never work if you say oh here's a banana never work if you say oh here's a banana it has to stay at a dollar a pound make it has to stay at a dollar a pound make it has to stay at a dollar a pound make up a number right well Supply and up a number right well Supply and up a number right well Supply and demand's going to move and then that's demand's going to move and then that's demand's going to move and then that's going to and so the minute it moves to going to and so the minute it moves to going to and so the minute it moves to $2 where the price should be then you're $2 where the price should be then you're $2 where the price should be then you're going to run into shortages so we all going to run into shortages so we all going to run into shortages so we all know this it's a bad idea right but are

know this it's a bad idea right but are know this it's a bad idea right but are there laws against price scouching there there laws against price scouching there there laws against price scouching there already are and they are good idea so already are and they are good idea so already are and they are good idea so why like you have a natural disaster all why like you have a natural disaster all why like you have a natural disaster all of a sudden uh the water that was a of a sudden uh the water that was a of a sudden uh the water that was a dollar now they're charging $100 the dollar now they're charging $100 the dollar now they're charging $100 the government has to come in Democratic government has to come in Democratic government has to come in Democratic capitalism they come in and go no I'm capitalism they come in and go no I'm capitalism they come in and go no I'm going to protect the people so you're going to protect the people so you're going to protect the people so you're not allowed to price gouch you know not allowed to price gouch you know not allowed to price gouch you know maybe charge $2 Etc but you're not going maybe charge $2 Etc but you're not going maybe charge $2 Etc but you're not going to charge a 100 but it is temporary we to charge a 100 but it is temporary we to charge a 100 but it is temporary we get we get that done we end the the get we get that done we end the the get we get that done we end the the problem there and then we bring it back problem there and then we bring it back problem there and then we bring it back to a normal supply and demand okay so to a normal supply and demand okay so to a normal supply and demand okay so that's what she's that's what she's that's what she's proposing it's that's all political proposing it's that's all political proposing it's that's all political because the price gouging has already because the price gouging has already because the price gouging has already passed they did it in 21 and 22 and so passed they did it in 21 and 22 and so passed they did it in 21 and 22 and so now the grocery stores are actually low now the grocery stores are actually low now the grocery stores are actually low margin business she re she says grocery margin business she re she says grocery margin business she re she says grocery stores that's how I know she doesn't stores that's how I know she doesn't stores that's how I know she doesn't mean it because the grocery stores mean it because the grocery stores mean it because the grocery stores weren't the problem consumer goods were weren't the problem consumer goods were weren't the problem consumer goods were the problem yeah those companies she's the problem yeah those companies she's the problem yeah those companies she's following the polls where most people following the polls where most people following the polls where most people will say that the groceries are too will say that the groceries are too will say that the groceries are too expensive so she's just basically expensive so she's just basically expensive so she's just basically a saying the most popular thing yeah a saying the most popular thing yeah a saying the most popular thing yeah 100% and you could tell in which 100% and you could tell in which 100% and you could tell in which proposals she means it and which proposals she means it and which proposals she means it and which proposals she doesn't because of the of proposals she doesn't because of the of proposals she doesn't because of the of the framing right so this is a mediocre the framing right so this is a mediocre the framing right so this is a mediocre example but in housing she said we have example but in housing she said we have example but in housing she said we have to stop private Equity from buying uh to stop private Equity from buying uh to stop private Equity from buying uh houses in houses in houses in bulk I'm like huh curious that they put bulk I'm like huh curious that they put bulk I'm like huh curious that they put the word in bulk there why does it have the word in bulk there why does it have the word in bulk there why does it have to be in bulk why don't we just stop to be in bulk why don't we just stop to be in bulk why don't we just stop them from buying any residential home them from buying any residential home them from buying any residential home like you could set up normal boundaries like you could set up normal boundaries like you could set up normal boundaries right for example Charlie Kirk was on

right for example Charlie Kirk was on right for example Charlie Kirk was on The Young Turks this week by the way The Young Turks this week by the way The Young Turks this week by the way sorry to take that tangent I really sorry to take that tangent I really sorry to take that tangent I really enjoy that conversation I really enjoy enjoy that conversation I really enjoy enjoy that conversation I really enjoy that you talk to that you talk to that you talk to that was like civil you guys disagreed that was like civil you guys disagreed that was like civil you guys disagreed pretty intensely but like there was a pretty intensely but like there was a pretty intensely but like there was a lot of respect I really enjoyed that lot of respect I really enjoyed that lot of respect I really enjoyed that thank you brother that was like that was thank you brother that was like that was thank you brother that was like that was beautiful you and Charlie Kirk and I beautiful you and Charlie Kirk and I beautiful you and Charlie Kirk and I think Anna was there yeah that's right think Anna was there yeah that's right think Anna was there yeah that's right so it's nice yeah quick tangent and um so it's nice yeah quick tangent and um so it's nice yeah quick tangent and um look I I've done a lot of yelling online look I I've done a lot of yelling online look I I've done a lot of yelling online okay and I I yell when a there's a issue okay and I I yell when a there's a issue okay and I I yell when a there's a issue that you should be passionate about that you should be passionate about that you should be passionate about 40,000 people 25,000 women and children 40,000 people 25,000 women and children 40,000 people 25,000 women and children slaughtered in Gaza if you're not slaughtered in Gaza if you're not slaughtered in Gaza if you're not emotionally upset by that and you think emotionally upset by that and you think emotionally upset by that and you think it's no big deal I think that's a it's no big deal I think that's a it's no big deal I think that's a problem but when you add gaslighting on problem but when you add gaslighting on problem but when you add gaslighting on top that's what drives me crazy and then top that's what drives me crazy and then top that's what drives me crazy and then when you add filibustering on top then when you add filibustering on top then when you add filibustering on top then that sets me off so for all my life that sets me off so for all my life that sets me off so for all my life rightwing has gone on cable and fill rightwing has gone on cable and fill rightwing has gone on cable and fill Buster they take up so much more time Buster they take up so much more time Buster they take up so much more time than the leftwing guest and the leftwing than the leftwing guest and the leftwing than the leftwing guest and the leftwing guest always like goes oh okay well I'm guest always like goes oh okay well I'm guest always like goes oh okay well I'm offended he's taking up too much time no offended he's taking up too much time no offended he's taking up too much time no brother go over the top go over the top brother go over the top go over the top brother go over the top go over the top you're not going to talk over me I'm you're not going to talk over me I'm you're not going to talk over me I'm going to talk over you okay so and uh going to talk over you okay so and uh going to talk over you okay so and uh and then when you Gaslight and you go oh and then when you Gaslight and you go oh and then when you Gaslight and you go oh no 1,200 people in Israel being killed no 1,200 people in Israel being killed no 1,200 people in Israel being killed is awful which it is but 40,000 people is awful which it is but 40,000 people is awful which it is but 40,000 people being killed in Gaza it's no big deal we being killed in Gaza it's no big deal we being killed in Gaza it's no big deal we should keep giving them money keep should keep giving them money keep should keep giving them money keep killing keep killing and that that's killing keep killing and that that's killing keep killing and that that's normal no it's not normal I'm not going normal no it's not normal I'm not going normal no it's not normal I'm not going to let you say it's normal that's nuts to let you say it's normal that's nuts to let you say it's normal that's nuts okay when you like we were against the

okay when you like we were against the okay when you like we were against the irq war there was only two shows that irq war there was only two shows that irq war there was only two shows that were on the air nationally that were were on the air nationally that were were on the air nationally that were against the Iraq War us and democracy against the Iraq War us and democracy against the Iraq War us and democracy now with Amy now with Amy now with Amy Goodman and and at the time I used to Goodman and and at the time I used to Goodman and and at the time I used to yell all the time because mainstream yell all the time because mainstream yell all the time because mainstream media would gas like the out of us media would gas like the out of us media would gas like the out of us we're going to be greeted as liberators we're going to be greeted as liberators we're going to be greeted as liberators me and Ben manit's on the air Ben me and Ben manit's on the air Ben me and Ben manit's on the air Ben doesn't yell as much he's now the host doesn't yell as much he's now the host doesn't yell as much he's now the host Turner Classic Movies but we're he's Turner Classic Movies but we're he's Turner Classic Movies but we're he's saying it in a calm way I'm saying it in saying it in a calm way I'm saying it in saying it in a calm way I'm saying it in a screaming way we're not going to be a screaming way we're not going to be a screaming way we're not going to be greeted as liberators when you drop a greeted as liberators when you drop a greeted as liberators when you drop a bomb on someone's head they don't greet bomb on someone's head they don't greet bomb on someone's head they don't greet you as a liberator stop saying insane you as a liberator stop saying insane you as a liberator stop saying insane things and seven out of 10 Americans things and seven out of 10 Americans things and seven out of 10 Americans thought that Saddam Hussein had thought that Saddam Hussein had thought that Saddam Hussein had personally attacked us on 911 we got personally attacked us on 911 we got personally attacked us on 911 we got lied into that war by corporate media lied into that war by corporate media lied into that war by corporate media okay now the there's one there's a okay now the there's one there's a okay now the there's one there's a couple of good things that Trump has couple of good things that Trump has couple of good things that Trump has done one is get people to realize done one is get people to realize done one is get people to realize corporate media is the Matrix right and corporate media is the Matrix right and corporate media is the Matrix right and so now and get them to an anti-war so now and get them to an anti-war so now and get them to an anti-war position he himself doesn't have an position he himself doesn't have an position he himself doesn't have an anti-war position but his voters do and anti-war position but his voters do and anti-war position but his voters do and that's a positive we can come back to that's a positive we can come back to that's a positive we can come back to that but these days the reason why the that but these days the reason why the that but these days the reason why the Charlie Kirk conversations are going Charlie Kirk conversations are going Charlie Kirk conversations are going great and Rudy juliani and Mike Lindell great and Rudy juliani and Mike Lindell great and Rudy juliani and Mike Lindell and historically though we've been go and historically though we've been go and historically though we've been go back again 10 years 20 years we've back again 10 years 20 years we've back again 10 years 20 years we've always been respectful when someone always been respectful when someone always been respectful when someone comes on our show and we have a debate comes on our show and we have a debate comes on our show and we have a debate as long as they're not yelling I match as long as they're not yelling I match as long as they're not yelling I match the tenor of the host right you and I the tenor of the host right you and I the tenor of the host right you and I are having a reasonable conversation I'm are having a reasonable conversation I'm are having a reasonable conversation I'm not raising my voice I'm not yelling at not raising my voice I'm not yelling at not raising my voice I'm not yelling at you for no reason right so now when you for no reason right so now when you for no reason right so now when Charlie's not going to battle anymore Charlie's not going to battle anymore Charlie's not going to battle anymore for like talking points I'm shutting off

for like talking points I'm shutting off for like talking points I'm shutting off my mind all I'm doing is yelling at you my mind all I'm doing is yelling at you my mind all I'm doing is yelling at you then I'm going to yell back at him but then I'm going to yell back at him but then I'm going to yell back at him but now he's saying okay let's have a now he's saying okay let's have a now he's saying okay let's have a reasonable conversation great I love it reasonable conversation great I love it reasonable conversation great I love it I love reasonable conversations is great I love reasonable conversations is great I love reasonable conversations is great it was refreshing and uh what were we it was refreshing and uh what were we it was refreshing and uh what were we talking about you buying up buying up talking about you buying up buying up talking about you buying up buying up housing yes so Charlie when he was on housing yes so Charlie when he was on housing yes so Charlie when he was on said Hey listen you know I think that said Hey listen you know I think that said Hey listen you know I think that there should be a cap though I forget if there should be a cap though I forget if there should be a cap though I forget if he said 10 billion or 100 billion in he said 10 billion or 100 billion in he said 10 billion or 100 billion in assets if you have less than that you assets if you have less than that you assets if you have less than that you should be still be able to do real should be still be able to do real should be still be able to do real estate as an investment even if it's estate as an investment even if it's estate as an investment even if it's residential but above that it gets to residential but above that it gets to residential but above that it gets to okay that's good no problem we can have okay that's good no problem we can have okay that's good no problem we can have a debate about that we can figure out is a debate about that we can figure out is a debate about that we can figure out is the right number 10 100 12 five no the right number 10 100 12 five no the right number 10 100 12 five no problem you could put in reasonable problem you could put in reasonable problem you could put in reasonable limitations but but we got to get them limitations but but we got to get them limitations but but we got to get them to stop buying the homes so when kamla to stop buying the homes so when kamla to stop buying the homes so when kamla Harris says oh we'll stop them from Harris says oh we'll stop them from Harris says oh we'll stop them from buying homes in bulk I'm like okay buying homes in bulk I'm like okay buying homes in bulk I'm like okay there's the loophole and so they're there's the loophole and so they're there's the loophole and so they're going to use that loophole and besides going to use that loophole and besides going to use that loophole and besides which it's not going to pass Wall Street which it's not going to pass Wall Street which it's not going to pass Wall Street owns the government so there's no way owns the government so there's no way owns the government so there's no way corporate Republicans and Democrats corporate Republicans and Democrats corporate Republicans and Democrats which are about 98% of politicians are which are about 98% of politicians are which are about 98% of politicians are going to limit private equity and and so going to limit private equity and and so going to limit private equity and and so when do we ever get a little bit of when do we ever get a little bit of when do we ever get a little bit of change when Democrats are in charge they change when Democrats are in charge they change when Democrats are in charge they do 5 to 15% of their agenda and that's do 5 to 15% of their agenda and that's do 5 to 15% of their agenda and that's not because they're warmhearted it's a not because they're warmhearted it's a not because they're warmhearted it's a release release release valve right oh see under Obama we got valve right oh see under Obama we got valve right oh see under Obama we got about 5% change about 5% change about 5% change and what was that that was Obamacare and what was that that was Obamacare and what was that that was Obamacare right that was most of the change that right that was most of the change that right that was most of the change that we got and what's the greatest part of

we got and what's the greatest part of we got and what's the greatest part of Obamacare and now I a lot of rightwing Obamacare and now I a lot of rightwing Obamacare and now I a lot of rightwing also agree almost all of right-wing also agree almost all of right-wing also agree almost all of right-wing agree about this portion which is they agree about this portion which is they agree about this portion which is they got rid of the bias against pre-existing got rid of the bias against pre-existing got rid of the bias against pre-existing conditions why did they do that conditions why did they do that conditions why did they do that particularly because the country was particularly because the country was particularly because the country was about to get in a rage we all about to get in a rage we all about to get in a rage we all have pre-existing conditions If you deny have pre-existing conditions If you deny have pre-existing conditions If you deny me when I'm sick what the the me when I'm sick what the the me when I'm sick what the the point of insurance right and the anger point of insurance right and the anger point of insurance right and the anger had gotten to a nuclear level so they had gotten to a nuclear level so they had gotten to a nuclear level so they like release Val get rid of pre-existing like release Val get rid of pre-existing like release Val get rid of pre-existing conditions let's go back to just milking conditions let's go back to just milking conditions let's go back to just milking them regularly and oh by the way put in them regularly and oh by the way put in them regularly and oh by the way put in a mandate so that they have to buy it a mandate so that they have to buy it a mandate so that they have to buy it from us right do you know who originally from us right do you know who originally from us right do you know who originally came up with came up with came up with Obamacare the Heritage Foundation it was Obamacare the Heritage Foundation it was Obamacare the Heritage Foundation it was their proposal Romney did it in their proposal Romney did it in their proposal Romney did it in Massachusetts it was called Romney care Massachusetts it was called Romney care Massachusetts it was called Romney care so I think this is a super important so I think this is a super important so I think this is a super important election but I've earned the credibility election but I've earned the credibility election but I've earned the credibility to be able to say that because in 2012 I to be able to say that because in 2012 I to be able to say that because in 2012 I said this is a largely unimportant said this is a largely unimportant said this is a largely unimportant election Mitt Romney and Barack Obama's election Mitt Romney and Barack Obama's election Mitt Romney and Barack Obama's policies on economic issues are near policies on economic issues are near policies on economic issues are near identical identical identical Obamacare was literally Romney care Obamacare was literally Romney care Obamacare was literally Romney care right now the left says oh the Heritage right now the left says oh the Heritage right now the left says oh the Heritage Foundation it's so dangerous project Foundation it's so dangerous project Foundation it's so dangerous project 2025 well brother they're the ones who 2025 well brother they're the ones who 2025 well brother they're the ones who wrote Obamacare and and you say that's wrote Obamacare and and you say that's wrote Obamacare and and you say that's the greatest change in the world right the greatest change in the world right the greatest change in the world right so the that's why the Democrats yeah so the that's why the Democrats yeah so the that's why the Democrats yeah I'll take the 10% change overall I think I'll take the 10% change overall I think I'll take the 10% change overall I think Biden did about 15% Obama did 5% but Biden did about 15% Obama did 5% but Biden did about 15% Obama did 5% but they're going to they'll also March you they're going to they'll also March you they're going to they'll also March you backwards by deregulating like Clinton backwards by deregulating like Clinton backwards by deregulating like Clinton did and Obama did the bank bail out like

did and Obama did the bank bail out like did and Obama did the bank bail out like Obama did but 10% is better than 0% but Obama did but 10% is better than 0% but Obama did but 10% is better than 0% but it's not to help you it's to release it's not to help you it's to release it's not to help you it's to release valve so the system keeps going is it valve so the system keeps going is it valve so the system keeps going is it possible to steal man the case that possible to steal man the case that possible to steal man the case that uh that not all politicians are uh that not all politicians are uh that not all politicians are corporatist or or corporatist or or corporatist or or maybe how would you approach that for maybe how would you approach that for maybe how would you approach that for example this podcast has a bunch of example this podcast has a bunch of example this podcast has a bunch of sponsors and I give zero sponsors and I give zero sponsors and I give zero about what they think about what about what they think about what about what they think about what I'm saying like they have zero control I'm saying like they have zero control I'm saying like they have zero control over me um maybe you could say that's over me um maybe you could say that's over me um maybe you could say that's not that's because it's not a lot of not that's because it's not a lot of not that's because it's not a lot of money or maybe maybe I'm a unique person money or maybe maybe I'm a unique person money or maybe maybe I'm a unique person or something like this but um I just or something like this but um I just or something like this but um I just think it's possible to have and I would think it's possible to have and I would think it's possible to have and I would like to believe a lot of politicians in like to believe a lot of politicians in like to believe a lot of politicians in this way that they have ideas and while this way that they have ideas and while this way that they have ideas and while they take money they kind of uh see it they take money they kind of uh see it they take money they kind of uh see it as a game that you know you accept the as a game that you know you accept the as a game that you know you accept the money kind of go to certain money kind of go to certain money kind of go to certain parties hug people and so on but it parties hug people and so on but it parties hug people and so on but it doesn't actually fundamentally comp doesn't actually fundamentally comp doesn't actually fundamentally comp compromise U your integrity on issues compromise U your integrity on issues compromise U your integrity on issues you actually care about I can steal man you actually care about I can steal man you actually care about I can steal man almost anything I could steal man Trump almost anything I could steal man Trump almost anything I could steal man Trump I can steal man conservatives easily I can steal man conservatives easily I can steal man conservatives easily right uh corporate politicians is a hard right uh corporate politicians is a hard right uh corporate politicians is a hard one so first um it's not all politicians one so first um it's not all politicians one so first um it's not all politicians we could start out nice and easy Tom we could start out nice and easy Tom we could start out nice and easy Tom Massie uh now Holly and Gates taking not Massie uh now Holly and Gates taking not Massie uh now Holly and Gates taking not taking corporate pack money uh Bernie taking corporate pack money uh Bernie taking corporate pack money uh Bernie the squad they don't take corpor pack the squad they don't take corpor pack the squad they don't take corpor pack money you could disagree on either end money you could disagree on either end money you could disagree on either end of those uh folks on social issues but

of those uh folks on social issues but of those uh folks on social issues but generally they are a thousand times less generally they are a thousand times less generally they are a thousand times less corrupt they're more honest uh and part corrupt they're more honest uh and part corrupt they're more honest uh and part of the reason you might hate this squad of the reason you might hate this squad of the reason you might hate this squad is because they're so honest they tell is because they're so honest they tell is because they're so honest they tell you their real opinion on social issues you their real opinion on social issues you their real opinion on social issues that you really disagree with a lot of that you really disagree with a lot of that you really disagree with a lot of the corporate politicians won't do that the corporate politicians won't do that the corporate politicians won't do that because they're trying to get as many because they're trying to get as many because they're trying to get as many votes as possible so they can fate their votes as possible so they can fate their votes as possible so they can fate their donors uh when they get into office and donors uh when they get into office and donors uh when they get into office and do all their favors for them okay but do all their favors for them okay but do all their favors for them okay but you see I'm already falling apart on the you see I'm already falling apart on the you see I'm already falling apart on the steel maning of corporate politicians steel maning of corporate politicians steel maning of corporate politicians let's like zoom in on that so if you let's like zoom in on that so if you let's like zoom in on that so if you take corporate pack money you're that's take corporate pack money you're that's take corporate pack money you're that's it you're you're corrupted like can you it you're you're corrupted like can you it you're you're corrupted like can you imagine yourself say you're a politician imagine yourself say you're a politician imagine yourself say you're a politician you're a you're a you're a president president president uh you're a human being you're a person uh you're a human being you're a person uh you're a human being you're a person with Integrity you're a person who with Integrity you're a person who with Integrity you're a person who thinks about the world you're saying if thinks about the world you're saying if thinks about the world you're saying if I was a corporate pack and I give you a I was a corporate pack and I give you a I was a corporate pack and I give you a billion dollars you still you You' be I billion dollars you still you You' be I billion dollars you still you You' be I could tell you anything so Lex could tell you anything so Lex could tell you anything so Lex everything is a spectrum humanity is a everything is a spectrum humanity is a everything is a spectrum humanity is a spectrum so can you find outliers who spectrum so can you find outliers who spectrum so can you find outliers who could take corporate pack money and could take corporate pack money and could take corporate pack money and still be principled enough to resist its still be principled enough to resist its still be principled enough to resist its lure yeah uh and and I would hope that I lure yeah uh and and I would hope that I lure yeah uh and and I would hope that I would be a person like that but I would be a person like that but I would be a person like that but I wouldn't take or pack money but if you wouldn't take or pack money but if you wouldn't take or pack money but if you forc me to uh I think I would still stay forc me to uh I think I would still stay forc me to uh I think I would still stay principled and do it could you find 10 principled and do it could you find 10 principled and do it could you find 10 20 other people in the country yeah but 20 other people in the country yeah but 20 other people in the country yeah but on average that is not what will happen on average that is not what will happen on average that is not what will happen what will happen is they will take the what will happen is they will take the what will happen is they will take the money and do exactly as they are told money and do exactly as they are told money and do exactly as they are told see I think most people have integrity see I think most people have integrity see I think most people have integrity okay okay hold so what I'm more worried

okay okay hold so what I'm more worried okay okay hold so what I'm more worried about is when you take corporate pack about is when you take corporate pack about is when you take corporate pack money it's not that you are immediately money it's not that you are immediately money it's not that you are immediately sold is overtime over time that's true sold is overtime over time that's true sold is overtime over time that's true so yeah I get it um but I wonder if if so yeah I get it um but I wonder if if so yeah I get it um but I wonder if if the Integrity that I think most people the Integrity that I think most people the Integrity that I think most people have can withstand the gradual slippery have can withstand the gradual slippery have can withstand the gradual slippery slope of slope of slope of uh uh of the effect of corporate uh uh of the effect of corporate uh uh of the effect of corporate money which if if what I'm saying is money which if if what I'm saying is money which if if what I'm saying is true that most people have integrity one true that most people have integrity one true that most people have integrity one of the way to solve the effect of of the way to solve the effect of of the way to solve the effect of corporate money is term limits because corporate money is term limits because corporate money is term limits because it takes time to corrupt people you it takes time to corrupt people you it takes time to corrupt people you can't buy them immediately and then the can't buy them immediately and then the can't buy them immediately and then the term limits can uh you for the term limits can uh you for the term limits can uh you for the listener Jen is uh shaking his head okay listener Jen is uh shaking his head okay listener Jen is uh shaking his head okay yeah no so look you're right that over yeah no so look you're right that over yeah no so look you're right that over time it gets way worse and as we talked time it gets way worse and as we talked time it gets way worse and as we talked about earlier Biden's a great example of about earlier Biden's a great example of about earlier Biden's a great example of that comes in anti-corruption winds up that comes in anti-corruption winds up that comes in anti-corruption winds up being totally Pro corruption by the end being totally Pro corruption by the end being totally Pro corruption by the end um and but he was also here for almost um and but he was also here for almost um and but he was also here for almost all of it as we started in a world that all of it as we started in a world that all of it as we started in a world that was not run by money in politics and is was not run by money in politics and is was not run by money in politics and is now completely run by money in politics now completely run by money in politics now completely run by money in politics so uh does it get worse overtime Cinema so uh does it get worse overtime Cinema so uh does it get worse overtime Cinema Christen Cinema uh Arizona is a great Christen Cinema uh Arizona is a great Christen Cinema uh Arizona is a great example that comes in as a progressive example that comes in as a progressive example that comes in as a progressive doesn't want to take pack money uh cares doesn't want to take pack money uh cares doesn't want to take pack money uh cares about the average person Etc uh over about the average person Etc uh over about the average person Etc uh over time she becomes the biggest corporatist time she becomes the biggest corporatist time she becomes the biggest corporatist in the Senate uh and a total disaster uh in the Senate uh and a total disaster uh in the Senate uh and a total disaster uh but if you say that the majority of uh but if you say that the majority of uh but if you say that the majority of uh politicians have in I don't know if this politicians have in I don't know if this politicians have in I don't know if this is what you're saying is what you're saying is what you're saying majority of politicians have majority of politicians have majority of politicians have integrity um no let's start at the

integrity um no let's start at the integrity um no let's start at the majority of of human beings human and I majority of of human beings human and I majority of of human beings human and I think that politicians are think that politicians are think that politicians are not they are not a special group of like not they are not a special group of like not they are not a special group of like sociopaths they are they lean a little sociopaths they are they lean a little sociopaths they are they lean a little bit towards that direction but they're bit towards that direction but they're bit towards that direction but they're not like only sociopaths going to not like only sociopaths going to not like only sociopaths going to politics it's like you have to have some politics it's like you have to have some politics it's like you have to have some sociopathic qualities I think to go into sociopathic qualities I think to go into sociopathic qualities I think to go into politics but but is they're not politics but but is they're not politics but but is they're not completely sociate about I think they do completely sociate about I think they do completely sociate about I think they do have integrity cuz have integrity cuz have integrity cuz sometimes for very selfish reasons it's sometimes for very selfish reasons it's sometimes for very selfish reasons it's not all about money even for a selfish not all about money even for a selfish not all about money even for a selfish person for a narcissist it's it's also person for a narcissist it's it's also person for a narcissist it's it's also about being recognized for having had about being recognized for having had about being recognized for having had positive impact on the world yeah I I positive impact on the world yeah I I positive impact on the world yeah I I get it but all right so let's break it get it but all right so let's break it get it but all right so let's break it down so first uh human beings then we'll down so first uh human beings then we'll down so first uh human beings then we'll get to politicians do human beings have get to politicians do human beings have get to politicians do human beings have integrity well it's a spectrum so some integrity well it's a spectrum so some integrity well it's a spectrum so some people are have enormous Integrity some people are have enormous Integrity some people are have enormous Integrity some people have no Integrity so there is not people have no Integrity so there is not people have no Integrity so there is not one one one type or character right so some people type or character right so some people type or character right so some people have a ton of empathy for other human have a ton of empathy for other human have a ton of empathy for other human beings and they literally feel it like I beings and they literally feel it like I beings and they literally feel it like I feel the pain of someone else and I'm feel the pain of someone else and I'm feel the pain of someone else and I'm not alone most people feel the pain of not alone most people feel the pain of not alone most people feel the pain of someone else if you see a on video a someone else if you see a on video a someone else if you see a on video a baby being hurt an overwhelming majority baby being hurt an overwhelming majority baby being hurt an overwhelming majority of of human beings will go no right you of of human beings will go no right you of of human beings will go no right you have empathy that's a natural feeling have empathy that's a natural feeling have empathy that's a natural feeling that you have some people have no that you have some people have no that you have some people have no empathy because they're on the extreme empathy because they're on the extreme empathy because they're on the extreme end of the spectrum uh zial killers and end of the spectrum uh zial killers and end of the spectrum uh zial killers and Donald Trump okay and so I'm I'm partly Donald Trump okay and so I'm I'm partly Donald Trump okay and so I'm I'm partly joking but not really he has never

joking but not really he has never joking but not really he has never demonstrated any empathy that I have demonstrated any empathy that I have demonstrated any empathy that I have ever seen for any other human being I'm ever seen for any other human being I'm ever seen for any other human being I'm going to trigger some right-wingers going to trigger some right-wingers going to trigger some right-wingers because they think every terrible thing because they think every terrible thing because they think every terrible thing he said is out of context or joking or he said is out of context or joking or he said is out of context or joking or not real or fake news but his chief of not real or fake news but his chief of not real or fake news but his chief of staff didn't make it up he called uh staff didn't make it up he called uh staff didn't make it up he called uh people who went into the military people who went into the military people who went into the military suckers and losers why why did he say suckers and losers why why did he say suckers and losers why why did he say that if just hang with me for a second that if just hang with me for a second that if just hang with me for a second don't have your head explode okay I'm don't have your head explode okay I'm don't have your head explode okay I'm not saying the Le I'm saying the right- not saying the Le I'm saying the right- not saying the Le I'm saying the right- Wingers out there right so the reason is Wingers out there right so the reason is Wingers out there right so the reason is because if you're like Trump and you because if you're like Trump and you because if you're like Trump and you don't you literally don't feel the don't you literally don't feel the don't you literally don't feel the empathy you think why the hell would I empathy you think why the hell would I empathy you think why the hell would I go in the military get killed for go in the military get killed for go in the military get killed for someone else what a sucker no I'm going someone else what a sucker no I'm going someone else what a sucker no I'm going to stay out of the military I'm going to to stay out of the military I'm going to to stay out of the military I'm going to stay alive I'm going to make a ton of stay alive I'm going to make a ton of stay alive I'm going to make a ton of money and I'm going to look out for money and I'm going to look out for money and I'm going to look out for myself and he assumes because everybody myself and he assumes because everybody myself and he assumes because everybody does this you assume that everyone does this you assume that everyone does this you assume that everyone thinks like you do but they don't so thinks like you do but they don't so thinks like you do but they don't so Trump assumes everybody's as much of a Trump assumes everybody's as much of a Trump assumes everybody's as much of a dirt bag as he is and because he doesn't dirt bag as he is and because he doesn't dirt bag as he is and because he doesn't feel it he doesn't feel the empathy and feel it he doesn't feel the empathy and feel it he doesn't feel the empathy and so he's like yeah you'd be an idiot a so he's like yeah you'd be an idiot a so he's like yeah you'd be an idiot a sucker and a loser to go into the sucker and a loser to go into the sucker and a loser to go into the military and have sacrifice for other military and have sacrifice for other military and have sacrifice for other people so you see the Spectrum even if people so you see the Spectrum even if people so you see the Spectrum even if you think Trump's not on that end and you think Trump's not on that end and you think Trump's not on that end and you think I'm wrong about that you get you think I'm wrong about that you get you think I'm wrong about that you get that there are people on that end right that there are people on that end right that there are people on that end right so you have a spectrum of Integrity so you have a spectrum of Integrity so you have a spectrum of Integrity empathy Etc that's what I would call empathy Etc that's what I would call empathy Etc that's what I would call your Hardware you layer on top of that your Hardware you layer on top of that your Hardware you layer on top of that your software okay the software is your software okay the software is your software okay the software is cultural influences your parents media cultural influences your parents media cultural influences your parents media your friends all these are cultural your friends all these are cultural your friends all these are cultural influences so now when you're in certain

influences so now when you're in certain influences so now when you're in certain industries they value more Integrity so industries they value more Integrity so industries they value more Integrity so religious leaders if you're doing it religious leaders if you're doing it religious leaders if you're doing it right which is also very rare right but right which is also very rare right but right which is also very rare right but if you're doing it right you're supposed if you're doing it right you're supposed if you're doing it right you're supposed to have empathy for the poor the needy to have empathy for the poor the needy to have empathy for the poor the needy the whole flock right so that profession the whole flock right so that profession the whole flock right so that profession is incentivizing you towards empathy and is incentivizing you towards empathy and is incentivizing you towards empathy and integ integ integ okay and even then a giant amount of okay and even then a giant amount of okay and even then a giant amount of people abuse it right but okay good in people abuse it right but okay good in people abuse it right but okay good in politics it creates incentives for the politics it creates incentives for the politics it creates incentives for the opposite no integrity and that software opposite no integrity and that software opposite no integrity and that software to your point over time gets stronger to your point over time gets stronger to your point over time gets stronger and stronger and stronger until it takes and stronger and stronger until it takes and stronger and stronger until it takes over now you might have someone with a over now you might have someone with a over now you might have someone with a lot of Integrity like Tom Massie right lot of Integrity like Tom Massie right lot of Integrity like Tom Massie right uh republican from uh republican from uh republican from Kentucky and you whether I agree with Kentucky and you whether I agree with Kentucky and you whether I agree with him or disagree with him policy I get him or disagree with him policy I get him or disagree with him policy I get that the brother is actually doing it that the brother is actually doing it that the brother is actually doing it based on principles and there isn't any based on principles and there isn't any based on principles and there isn't any amount of money you can give Tom Massie amount of money you can give Tom Massie amount of money you can give Tom Massie for him to change his principles why for him to change his principles why for him to change his principles why he's on the principled end of the he's on the principled end of the he's on the principled end of the spectrum as a human being right so is spectrum as a human being right so is spectrum as a human being right so is Bernie they're on the same part of that Bernie they're on the same part of that Bernie they're on the same part of that that Spectrum right but for most people that Spectrum right but for most people that Spectrum right but for most people the great majority of the spectrum if the great majority of the spectrum if the great majority of the spectrum if you overload them with software that you overload them with software that you overload them with software that incentivizes them to not have integrity incentivizes them to not have integrity incentivizes them to not have integrity they will succumb and now let's switch they will succumb and now let's switch they will succumb and now let's switch to politicians in particular why why do to politicians in particular why why do to politicians in particular why why do I think that they're on average far more I think that they're on average far more I think that they're on average far more likely to be on the sociopathic part of likely to be on the sociopathic part of likely to be on the sociopathic part of the the the spectrum because of the incentives and spectrum because of the incentives and spectrum because of the incentives and disincentives so this changes every

disincentives so this changes every disincentives so this changes every Congressional cycle and when just Congressional cycle and when just Congressional cycle and when just Democrats were winning a lot it got all Democrats were winning a lot it got all Democrats were winning a lot it got all the way down to the way down to the way down to 87.5% but on average for Congressional 87.5% but on average for Congressional 87.5% but on average for Congressional elections the person with more money elections the person with more money elections the person with more money wins 95% of the time it doesn't matter wins 95% of the time it doesn't matter wins 95% of the time it doesn't matter if they're a liberal or conservative if they're a liberal or conservative if they're a liberal or conservative republican or democrat or any ideology republican or democrat or any ideology republican or democrat or any ideology they have they have they have 95% okay so now let's say you got the 5% 95% okay so now let's say you got the 5% 95% okay so now let's say you got the 5% that went in uh that are not hooked on that went in uh that are not hooked on that went in uh that are not hooked on the money well they're going to get a the money well they're going to get a the money well they're going to get a primary challenge then they're going to primary challenge then they're going to primary challenge then they're going to get a general election Challenge and 95% get a general election Challenge and 95% get a general election Challenge and 95% of the time the one with more money wins of the time the one with more money wins of the time the one with more money wins So eventually this system Cycles through So eventually this system Cycles through So eventually this system Cycles through until only the cor almost only the until only the cor almost only the until only the cor almost only the corrupt are left wait hold on a second corrupt are left wait hold on a second corrupt are left wait hold on a second is that is that real 95% so if you have is that is that real 95% so if you have is that is that real 95% so if you have more money 95% of the time you win huh money 95% of the time you win huh yes I'd like to believe that's less the yes I'd like to believe that's less the yes I'd like to believe that's less the case for for example for higher you get case for for example for higher you get case for for example for higher you get yes that's true you're right so you know yes that's true you're right so you know yes that's true you're right so you know why so the presidential race is why so the presidential race is why so the presidential race is Ironically in some ways the least Ironically in some ways the least Ironically in some ways the least corrupt so let's dive into why if you're corrupt so let's dive into why if you're corrupt so let's dive into why if you're running a local race anywhere in the running a local race anywhere in the running a local race anywhere in the country you're going to get almost no country you're going to get almost no country you're going to get almost no press conference meaning a congressional press conference meaning a congressional press conference meaning a congressional race right if you're running a senate race right if you're running a senate race right if you're running a senate race in the middle of Montana race in the middle of Montana race in the middle of Montana you're going to get almost no media you're going to get almost no media you're going to get almost no media coverage so that's where your money in coverage so that's where your money in coverage so that's where your money in politics has the most effect because politics has the most effect because politics has the most effect because then you could just buy the airwaves you then you could just buy the airwaves you then you could just buy the airwaves you outspend the other guy you get all the outspend the other guy you get all the outspend the other guy you get all the ads plus you get the friendly media

ads plus you get the friendly media ads plus you get the friendly media coverage because you just bought a coverage because you just bought a coverage because you just bought a couple of million dollars of ads in the couple of million dollars of ads in the couple of million dollars of ads in the middle of monana so the local news loves middle of monana so the local news loves middle of monana so the local news loves you the TV stations the radio stations you the TV stations the radio stations you the TV stations the radio stations the papers so some of the papers are the papers so some of the papers are the papers so some of the papers are principal they might say oh no but principal they might say oh no but principal they might say oh no but overall they're not calling you a overall they're not calling you a overall they're not calling you a radical they're not calling you anything radical they're not calling you anything radical they're not calling you anything and you're buying those races but when and you're buying those races but when and you're buying those races but when you get to the presidential race that's you get to the presidential race that's you get to the presidential race that's much harder because presidential race much harder because presidential race much harder because presidential race you have earned media free media that you have earned media free media that you have earned media free media that overwhelms paid media perfect example is overwhelms paid media perfect example is overwhelms paid media perfect example is 2016 Hillary Clinton out raises Trump by 2016 Hillary Clinton out raises Trump by 2016 Hillary Clinton out raises Trump by about two to one but she loses anyway about two to one but she loses anyway about two to one but she loses anyway why because Trump got almost twice as why because Trump got almost twice as why because Trump got almost twice as much earned media as she did and the much earned media as she did and the much earned media as she did and the earned media is better it's inside the earned media is better it's inside the earned media is better it's inside the content right it is definitely better so content right it is definitely better so content right it is definitely better so in a presidential election as long as in a presidential election as long as in a presidential election as long as you got past the primary you got past the primary you got past the primary you could actually win with not that you could actually win with not that you could actually win with not that much money and and that's part of the much money and and that's part of the much money and and that's part of the reason why I have hope Lex because all reason why I have hope Lex because all reason why I have hope Lex because all you got to do is get past a Republican you got to do is get past a Republican you got to do is get past a Republican or Democratic primary and now that's or Democratic primary and now that's or Democratic primary and now that's very very very difficult but Trump did very very very difficult but Trump did very very very difficult but Trump did it right now he took it in the wrong it right now he took it in the wrong it right now he took it in the wrong direction but he did get leave a direction but he did get leave a direction but he did get leave a blueprint for how to do it and so once blueprint for how to do it and so once blueprint for how to do it and so once you get to the general election you're you get to the general election you're you get to the general election you're off to the race you could do any goddamn off to the race you could do any goddamn off to the race you could do any goddamn thing you like okay you could be super thing you like okay you could be super thing you like okay you could be super popular you don't have to give a popular you don't have to give a popular you don't have to give a about the donors you can get into office about the donors you can get into office about the donors you can get into office you could bully your own party and the you could bully your own party and the you could bully your own party and the other party into doing what you want and other party into doing what you want and other party into doing what you want and you can get everything done you could you can get everything done you could you can get everything done you could even get money out of politics so don't even get money out of politics so don't even get money out of politics so don't lose hope I mean we even started lose hope I mean we even started lose hope I mean we even started Operation HOPE at tyt and our first

Operation HOPE at tyt and our first Operation HOPE at tyt and our first project was to knock Biden out and project was to knock Biden out and project was to knock Biden out and everybody said you guys are nuts that's everybody said you guys are nuts that's everybody said you guys are nuts that's totally impossible and we knocked Biden totally impossible and we knocked Biden totally impossible and we knocked Biden out right did we do it alone of course out right did we do it alone of course out right did we do it alone of course not we were a small part of it right but not we were a small part of it right but not we were a small part of it right but we laid the groundwork for Hope and we we laid the groundwork for Hope and we we laid the groundwork for Hope and we laid the groundwork for when he flopped laid the groundwork for when he flopped laid the groundwork for when he flopped in the debate in the debate in the debate people had already been told remember people had already been told remember people had already been told remember he's bad he's old he's not right and the he's bad he's old he's not right and the he's bad he's old he's not right and the debate proved it if we hadn't done that debate proved it if we hadn't done that debate proved it if we hadn't done that groundwork and not just young TKS groundwork and not just young TKS groundwork and not just young TKS obviously but Axel rod and Carville and obviously but Axel rod and Carville and obviously but Axel rod and Carville and Nate silver and Ezra Klein Etc Nate silver and Ezra Klein Etc Nate silver and Ezra Klein Etc Charlamagne the god John Stewart all Charlamagne the god John Stewart all Charlamagne the god John Stewart all these people helped a lot so that when these people helped a lot so that when these people helped a lot so that when the debate happened it confirmed the the debate happened it confirmed the the debate happened it confirmed the idea that out there that he was too old idea that out there that he was too old idea that out there that he was too old and couldn't do it so my point is Hope and couldn't do it so my point is Hope and couldn't do it so my point is Hope is you if you lose hope you're done for is you if you lose hope you're done for is you if you lose hope you're done for then they're definitely going to win then they're definitely going to win then they're definitely going to win right hope is the most dangerous thing right hope is the most dangerous thing right hope is the most dangerous thing in the world for the elites so whether in the world for the elites so whether in the world for the elites so whether you're right-wing or left wing I need you're right-wing or left wing I need you're right-wing or left wing I need you to have hope and I need you to you to have hope and I need you to you to have hope and I need you to understand it's not misplaced we just understand it's not misplaced we just understand it's not misplaced we just got to get past the primary and we're got to get past the primary and we're got to get past the primary and we're going to turn this whole thing around going to turn this whole thing around going to turn this whole thing around see you basically a presidential see you basically a presidential see you basically a presidential candidate who's a populist who candidate who's a populist who candidate who's a populist who uh in part runs on getting money out of uh in part runs on getting money out of uh in part runs on getting money out of politics okay well then let's talk about politics okay well then let's talk about politics okay well then let's talk about Donald Trump mhm so to me me the two Donald Trump mhm so to me me the two Donald Trump mhm so to me me the two biggest criticisms of trump is biggest criticisms of trump is biggest criticisms of trump is the the fake elector scheme out of that the the fake elector scheme out of that the the fake elector scheme out of that whole 20120 election the fake elector whole 20120 election the fake elector whole 20120 election the fake elector scheme is thing that really bothers me scheme is thing that really bothers me scheme is thing that really bothers me and then the second thing across a

and then the second thing across a and then the second thing across a larger time scale is the um the larger time scale is the um the larger time scale is the um the counterproductive division that he has counterproductive division that he has counterproductive division that he has created in uh let's say our public created in uh let's say our public created in uh let's say our public discourse what are your top five discourse what are your top five discourse what are your top five criticisms on Trump okay so number one criticisms on Trump okay so number one criticisms on Trump okay so number one it I have the same exact thing as you it I have the same exact thing as you it I have the same exact thing as you the fake elector scheme is unacceptable the fake elector scheme is unacceptable the fake elector scheme is unacceptable totally dis disqualifying so the fake totally dis disqualifying so the fake totally dis disqualifying so the fake elector scheme was a literal coup elector scheme was a literal coup elector scheme was a literal coup attempt so he doesn't win the election attempt so he doesn't win the election attempt so he doesn't win the election for folks who don't know I I need to for folks who don't know I I need to for folks who don't know I I need to explain why it's a coup attempt because explain why it's a coup attempt because explain why it's a coup attempt because you just throw out words and then people you just throw out words and then people you just throw out words and then people get triggered by the words and then they get triggered by the words and then they get triggered by the words and then they go into their separate Corners right so go into their separate Corners right so go into their separate Corners right so the January 6 riers they were not going the January 6 riers they were not going the January 6 riers they were not going to keep the building that was not a coup to keep the building that was not a coup to keep the building that was not a coup attemp it's not like oh the Maga guy attemp it's not like oh the Maga guy attemp it's not like oh the Maga guy have the building I guess they win right have the building I guess they win right have the building I guess they win right no that was never going to happen so no that was never going to happen so no that was never going to happen so what was the point of the January 6th what was the point of the January 6th what was the point of the January 6th Riot it was to delay the proceedings why Riot it was to delay the proceedings why Riot it was to delay the proceedings why did it matter that they were going to did it matter that they were going to did it matter that they were going to delay the proceedings because if you delay the proceedings because if you delay the proceedings because if you can't certify the election they wanted can't certify the election they wanted can't certify the election they wanted General confusion and Chaos so that the General confusion and Chaos so that the General confusion and Chaos so that the republicans in Congress could say well republicans in Congress could say well republicans in Congress could say well we don't know who wants so we're going we don't know who wants so we're going we don't know who wants so we're going to have to kick it back to the states in to have to kick it back to the states in to have to kick it back to the states in the states they had the fake electors the states they had the fake electors the states they had the fake electors ready remember the fake electors are not ready remember the fake electors are not ready remember the fake electors are not Trump's electors there's both candidates Trump's electors there's both candidates Trump's electors there's both candidates have a slate of electors Biden's have a slate of electors Biden's have a slate of electors Biden's electors and Trump's electors they go to electors and Trump's electors they go to electors and Trump's electors they go to the Trump electors first in this plan the Trump electors first in this plan the Trump electors first in this plan and the half the Trump electors go no and the half the Trump electors go no and the half the Trump electors go no I'm not going to pretend Trump won the I'm not going to pretend Trump won the I'm not going to pretend Trump won the election when he didn't win the election election when he didn't win the election election when he didn't win the election so they're like now we got to come

so they're like now we got to come so they're like now we got to come up with fake electors okay so they up with fake electors okay so they up with fake electors okay so they enlist these Republicans who go yeah enlist these Republicans who go yeah enlist these Republicans who go yeah I'll pretend Trump won right and so they I'll pretend Trump won right and so they I'll pretend Trump won right and so they sign a piece of paper that's fraud and sign a piece of paper that's fraud and sign a piece of paper that's fraud and that's why a lot of them are now being that's why a lot of them are now being that's why a lot of them are now being prosecuted in the different prosecuted in the different prosecuted in the different states and so the idea as the Republican states and so the idea as the Republican states and so the idea as the Republican legislator legislators then go we're legislator legislators then go we're legislator legislators then go we're sending these new electors in and we sending these new electors in and we sending these new electors in and we think Trump won Arizona and Georgia and think Trump won Arizona and Georgia and think Trump won Arizona and Georgia and Wisconsin right that was the idea that Wisconsin right that was the idea that Wisconsin right that was the idea that was the plan and then you come back to was the plan and then you come back to was the plan and then you come back to the house at that point when there are the house at that point when there are the house at that point when there are two different sets of electors the rule two different sets of electors the rule two different sets of electors the rule constitutional rule is the house decides constitutional rule is the house decides constitutional rule is the house decides but the house decides not on a majority but the house decides not on a majority but the house decides not on a majority because the Democrats had the majority because the Democrats had the majority because the Democrats had the majority at the time they decide on a majority of at the time they decide on a majority of at the time they decide on a majority of the States they vote by state and the the States they vote by state and the the States they vote by state and the Republicans had the majority of the Republicans had the majority of the Republicans had the majority of the states so in that way you steal the states so in that way you steal the states so in that way you steal the election even though Trump didn't win election even though Trump didn't win election even though Trump didn't win you install him back in as president you install him back in as president you install him back in as president that is a frontal assault on democracy that is a frontal assault on democracy that is a frontal assault on democracy and I loathe it and then Trump on top and I loathe it and then Trump on top and I loathe it and then Trump on top just blabbers out well sometimes you just blabbers out well sometimes you just blabbers out well sometimes you have if there's massive fraud in an have if there's massive fraud in an have if there's massive fraud in an election in other words I think I won I election in other words I think I won I election in other words I think I won I don't even think that I'm just saying don't even think that I'm just saying don't even think that I'm just saying that I won right he says you can that I won right he says you can that I won right he says you can terminate any rule regulation or article terminate any rule regulation or article terminate any rule regulation or article even in the Constitution no brother you even in the Constitution no brother you even in the Constitution no brother you cannot terminate the Constitution cannot terminate the Constitution cannot terminate the Constitution because you'd like to do a fake elector because you'd like to do a fake elector because you'd like to do a fake elector scheme and do a coup against America scheme and do a coup against America scheme and do a coup against America you okay so I'm never going to you okay so I'm never going to you okay so I'm never going to allow this W to be tyon to go back into

allow this W to be tyon to go back into allow this W to be tyon to go back into the White House and endanger our uh the White House and endanger our uh the White House and endanger our uh system and so you want to endanger the system and so you want to endanger the system and so you want to endanger the corrupt system I'm the guy okay let's go corrupt system I'm the guy okay let's go corrupt system I'm the guy okay let's go get that corrupt system and tear it down get that corrupt system and tear it down get that corrupt system and tear it down if you want to endanger the real system if you want to endanger the real system if you want to endanger the real system democracy capitalism democracy capitalism democracy capitalism the Constitution then I'm your biggest the Constitution then I'm your biggest the Constitution then I'm your biggest enemy so I'm never going to take that enemy so I'm never going to take that enemy so I'm never going to take that risk and you see it every time he goes risk and you see it every time he goes risk and you see it every time he goes to talk to a dictator look guys I'm to talk to a dictator look guys I'm to talk to a dictator look guys I'm asking you to be principled right I ask asking you to be principled right I ask asking you to be principled right I ask the left of that and we drive away some the left of that and we drive away some the left of that and we drive away some of our audience when we do that so we of our audience when we do that so we of our audience when we do that so we got the balls to do that to our to our got the balls to do that to our to our got the balls to do that to our to our own side so for the rightwing be honest own side so for the rightwing be honest own side so for the rightwing be honest if it was Joe Biden or Barack Obama or if it was Joe Biden or Barack Obama or if it was Joe Biden or Barack Obama or KLA Harris that went and wrote quote KLA Harris that went and wrote quote KLA Harris that went and wrote quote unquote Love Letters to communist unquote Love Letters to communist unquote Love Letters to communist dictator who runs concentration camps dictator who runs concentration camps dictator who runs concentration camps you would say communist we knew it look you would say communist we knew it look you would say communist we knew it look at that and Trump literally says about at that and Trump literally says about at that and Trump literally says about Kim Jong-un we wrote Love Letters to one Kim Jong-un we wrote Love Letters to one Kim Jong-un we wrote Love Letters to one another I fell we fell in love if a another I fell we fell in love if a another I fell we fell in love if a Democrat said that they'd be politically Democrat said that they'd be politically Democrat said that they'd be politically decapitated right they they their career decapitated right they they their career decapitated right they they their career would be instantly over right but Trump would be instantly over right but Trump would be instantly over right but Trump whenever xiangping Vladimir Putin I'm whenever xiangping Vladimir Putin I'm whenever xiangping Vladimir Putin I'm not don't get into Russia Russia Russia not don't get into Russia Russia Russia not don't get into Russia Russia Russia but it's just that he's a strong man but it's just that he's a strong man but it's just that he's a strong man right uh uh Kim Jong-un or any uh Victor right uh uh Kim Jong-un or any uh Victor right uh uh Kim Jong-un or any uh Victor Orban duterte in in the Philippines Orban duterte in in the Philippines Orban duterte in in the Philippines anytime it's a strong man that says anytime it's a strong man that says anytime it's a strong man that says screw our constitution screw our rules I screw our constitution screw our rules I screw our constitution screw our rules I want Total loyalty to one person Trump want Total loyalty to one person Trump want Total loyalty to one person Trump loves them he loves him he said once

loves them he loves him he said once loves them he loves him he said once he's like oh it's great you go to North he's like oh it's great you go to North he's like oh it's great you go to North Korea or China and when the uh leader Korea or China and when the uh leader Korea or China and when the uh leader walks in everybody applauds and walks in everybody applauds and walks in everybody applauds and everybody listens to what he says that's everybody listens to what he says that's everybody listens to what he says that's how it should be here no brother that's how it should be here no brother that's how it should be here no brother that's not how should be here you hate not how should be here you hate not how should be here you hate democracy you want to be the sole guy in democracy you want to be the sole guy in democracy you want to be the sole guy in charge as a populist you should loathe charge as a populist you should loathe charge as a populist you should loathe Donald Trump I agree on the fake elector Donald Trump I agree on the fake elector Donald Trump I agree on the fake elector scheme Can you steal man and maybe scheme Can you steal man and maybe scheme Can you steal man and maybe educate me on um there's a book rigged educate me on um there's a book rigged educate me on um there's a book rigged that I started that I started that I started reading is there any degree to which the reading is there any degree to which the reading is there any degree to which the election was rigged or elections in election was rigged or elections in election was rigged or elections in general are rigged so I think the book general are rigged so I think the book general are rigged so I think the book rigged the main case they make is not rigged the main case they make is not rigged the main case they make is not that there's some uh Shady fake uh it's that there's some uh Shady fake uh it's that there's some uh Shady fake uh it's it's more the impact of mainstream media it's more the impact of mainstream media it's more the impact of mainstream media and the impact of big Tech so rigged is and the impact of big Tech so rigged is and the impact of big Tech so rigged is another one of those words that triggers another one of those words that triggers another one of those words that triggers people and is il defined right so let's people and is il defined right so let's people and is il defined right so let's begin to Define it so the worst case of begin to Define it so the worst case of begin to Define it so the worst case of rigged rigged rigged is we actually changed the votes right is we actually changed the votes right is we actually changed the votes right so a lot of trump people think that so a lot of trump people think that so a lot of trump people think that that's what happened nonsense that that's what happened nonsense that that's what happened nonsense that didn't happen at all okay so then you didn't happen at all okay so then you didn't happen at all okay so then you move and by the way some on the left move and by the way some on the left move and by the way some on the left thought the votes were changed in the thought the votes were changed in the thought the votes were changed in the 2016 primary and it was literally rigged 2016 primary and it was literally rigged 2016 primary and it was literally rigged against Bernie no that did not happen against Bernie no that did not happen against Bernie no that did not happen okay that is a massive crime and is very okay that is a massive crime and is very okay that is a massive crime and is very risky and is relatively easy to get risky and is relatively easy to get risky and is relatively easy to get caught people who are in power are not caught people who are in power are not caught people who are in power are not interested in getting caught they're not interested in getting caught they're not interested in getting caught they're not interested in going to jail Etc it is a

interested in going to jail Etc it is a interested in going to jail Etc it is a very extreme thing could it happen yes very extreme thing could it happen yes very extreme thing could it happen yes it could happen have I seen any evidence it could happen have I seen any evidence it could happen have I seen any evidence of it happening in my lifetime not of it happening in my lifetime not of it happening in my lifetime not really given how much people hate this really given how much people hate this really given how much people hate this you probably just need to find evidence you probably just need to find evidence you probably just need to find evidence of one time like one th one vote being of one time like one th one vote being of one time like one th one vote being changed where you can trace them saying changed where you can trace them saying changed where you can trace them saying something in some room somewhere that something in some room somewhere that something in some room somewhere that would just explode just that evidence would just explode just that evidence would just explode just that evidence just doesn't seem to be there and by the just doesn't seem to be there and by the just doesn't seem to be there and by the way for the right-wing who say verify way for the right-wing who say verify way for the right-wing who say verify the vote goddamn right verify the vote the vote goddamn right verify the vote the vote goddamn right verify the vote right so you want to do have different right so you want to do have different right so you want to do have different proposals like paper ballots recounts proposals like paper ballots recounts proposals like paper ballots recounts hand recounts which by the way you had hand recounts which by the way you had hand recounts which by the way you had not the paper ballots but the three not the paper ballots but the three not the paper ballots but the three recounts and a hand recount in Georgia recounts and a hand recount in Georgia recounts and a hand recount in Georgia in so many of these swing states he lost in so many of these swing states he lost in so many of these swing states he lost he lost he lost there was no significant he lost he lost there was no significant he lost he lost there was no significant voter fraud now SE second thing in terms voter fraud now SE second thing in terms voter fraud now SE second thing in terms of uh of rigging is voter fraud so how of uh of rigging is voter fraud so how of uh of rigging is voter fraud so how and the right-wing believes oh my God and the right-wing believes oh my God and the right-wing believes oh my God it's voter fraud everywhere not remotely it's voter fraud everywhere not remotely it's voter fraud everywhere not remotely true herish foundation does a study they true herish foundation does a study they true herish foundation does a study they want to prove it so badly and it turns want to prove it so badly and it turns want to prove it so badly and it turns out no matter how much they move the out no matter how much they move the out no matter how much they move the numbers the final number they got was it numbers the final number they got was it numbers the final number they got was it happens 0.00000000 0 6% of the time okay it 0.00000000 0 6% of the time okay it almost never happens they found like 31 almost never happens they found like 31 almost never happens they found like 31 instances over a decade or two decades instances over a decade or two decades instances over a decade or two decades so it's what counts as voter fraud so a so it's what counts as voter fraud so a so it's what counts as voter fraud so a lot of times these days it'll be lot of times these days it'll be lot of times these days it'll be Republicans who do it because it'll be Republicans who do it because it'll be Republicans who do it because it'll be and it's not nefarious it's a and it's not nefarious it's a and it's not nefarious it's a knucklehead who goes and I heard they knucklehead who goes and I heard they knucklehead who goes and I heard they they're having the undocumented the

they're having the undocumented the they're having the undocumented the illegals vote so I voted for me and my illegals vote so I voted for me and my illegals vote so I voted for me and my mom even though she's dead but that's mom even though she's dead but that's mom even though she's dead but that's fair they're doing it they're like no fair they're doing it they're like no fair they're doing it they're like no brother that's not fair that's not how brother that's not fair that's not how brother that's not fair that's not how it works you're under arrest so what it works you're under arrest so what it works you're under arrest so what about non-citizens voting so it's about non-citizens voting so it's about non-citizens voting so it's Preposterous of course non-citizens Preposterous of course non-citizens Preposterous of course non-citizens shouldn't vote and they don't vote but shouldn't vote and they don't vote but shouldn't vote and they don't vote but there's not you don't have to prove there's not you don't have to prove there's not you don't have to prove citizenship when you're voting right no citizenship when you're voting right no citizenship when you're voting right no you do I mean it's so it depends on what you do I mean it's so it depends on what you do I mean it's so it depends on what you mean by prove and when you vote you mean by prove and when you vote you mean by prove and when you vote right so you're not allowed to vote as a right so you're not allowed to vote as a right so you're not allowed to vote as a undocumented uh immigrant so that undocumented uh immigrant so that undocumented uh immigrant so that happens upfront when you go to like happens upfront when you go to like happens upfront when you go to like again it's a Hall of Mirrors like again it's a Hall of Mirrors like again it's a Hall of Mirrors like there's so many different ways to create there's so many different ways to create there's so many different ways to create mirages so the Republicans will say well mirages so the Republicans will say well mirages so the Republicans will say well when you go to the voting booth they when you go to the voting booth they when you go to the voting booth they don't make you show a don't make you show a don't make you show a Passport yeah that's true but you showed Passport yeah that's true but you showed Passport yeah that's true but you showed it earlier when you registered right and it earlier when you registered right and it earlier when you registered right and so and we can get into voter ID laws so and we can get into voter ID laws so and we can get into voter ID laws there's all sorts of things but we got there's all sorts of things but we got there's all sorts of things but we got to we'll speed up the Spectrum right so to we'll speed up the Spectrum right so to we'll speed up the Spectrum right so these things almost never happen voter these things almost never happen voter these things almost never happen voter fraud happens but super rarely uh and fraud happens but super rarely uh and fraud happens but super rarely uh and not enough to swing elections and by the not enough to swing elections and by the not enough to swing elections and by the way sometimes if there is an issue way sometimes if there is an issue way sometimes if there is an issue they'll redo an election there is they'll redo an election there is they'll redo an election there is actually a process for that and it actually a process for that and it actually a process for that and it happened in North Carolina because happened in North Carolina because happened in North Carolina because Republicans did Vote or fraud in this Republicans did Vote or fraud in this Republicans did Vote or fraud in this one District District okay and it wasn't one District District okay and it wasn't one District District okay and it wasn't the candidate himself it was this the candidate himself it was this the candidate himself it was this campaign person and they did ballot campaign person and they did ballot campaign person and they did ballot harvesting and then but ballot harvesting and then but ballot harvesting and then but ballot harvesting again it depends on what you harvesting again it depends on what you harvesting again it depends on what you mean if you're just collecting ballots mean if you're just collecting ballots mean if you're just collecting ballots that's okay he changed the ballots that's okay he changed the ballots that's okay he changed the ballots that's not okay and so they had to redo that's not okay and so they had to redo that's not okay and so they had to redo that election so um now the real place that election so um now the real place that election so um now the real place where it gets rigged is before elections

where it gets rigged is before elections where it gets rigged is before elections and there's two main ways that things and there's two main ways that things and there's two main ways that things get rigged one get rigged one get rigged one is almost is almost is almost exclusively no that's not fair I was exclusively no that's not fair I was exclusively no that's not fair I was going to say Republicans but Democrats going to say Republicans but Democrats going to say Republicans but Democrats do it too in a different way so do it too in a different way so do it too in a different way so Republicans would come in like Brian Republicans would come in like Brian Republicans would come in like Brian Camp is the king of this in Georgia so Camp is the king of this in Georgia so Camp is the king of this in Georgia so he was against Trump doing it exp poost he was against Trump doing it exp poost he was against Trump doing it exp poost facto he's like no you idiot we don't facto he's like no you idiot we don't facto he's like no you idiot we don't cheat after the election we cheat before cheat after the election we cheat before cheat after the election we cheat before the election okay so they'll go well I the election okay so they'll go well I the election okay so they'll go well I mean you got to clear out the voter rols mean you got to clear out the voter rols mean you got to clear out the voter rols every once in a while and that's true every once in a while and that's true every once in a while and that's true because people die people move and you because people die people move and you because people die people move and you got to clean out the voter rols so then got to clean out the voter rols so then got to clean out the voter rols so then they come in and they go we will clean they come in and they go we will clean they come in and they go we will clean them out mainly in Black areas okay oh them out mainly in Black areas okay oh them out mainly in Black areas okay oh look at that there goes a couple of look at that there goes a couple of look at that there goes a couple of million uh black voters well some of million uh black voters well some of million uh black voters well some of those I suppose are real voters but those I suppose are real voters but those I suppose are real voters but they'll have to re-register and then they'll have to re-register and then they'll have to re-register and then they'll find that out on Election Day they'll find that out on Election Day they'll find that out on Election Day and oh well now sorry you couldn't vote and oh well now sorry you couldn't vote and oh well now sorry you couldn't vote this time remember to re-register next this time remember to re-register next this time remember to re-register next time and so do they go hey we're going time and so do they go hey we're going time and so do they go hey we're going to take black people off the voter roles to take black people off the voter roles to take black people off the voter roles no what they do is we're having more no what they do is we're having more no what they do is we're having more issues in these districts right here's issues in these districts right here's issues in these districts right here's another way they do it how many voting another way they do it how many voting another way they do it how many voting boost do you have in the area so boost do you have in the area so boost do you have in the area so primarily Republican areas will get tons primarily Republican areas will get tons primarily Republican areas will get tons of the voting boost so you don't have to of the voting boost so you don't have to of the voting boost so you don't have to wait in line you go in you vote you go wait in line you go in you vote you go wait in line you go in you vote you go to work no problem you're in a black to work no problem you're in a black to work no problem you're in a black area run in a in a Republican state all area run in a in a Republican state all area run in a in a Republican state all of a sudden hey look that City well we of a sudden hey look that City well we of a sudden hey look that City well we sent you four voting booths oh you got a sent you four voting booths oh you got a sent you four voting booths oh you got a million people there well what are you million people there well what are you million people there well what are you going to do I guess you got to wait in going to do I guess you got to wait in going to do I guess you got to wait in line the whole day you can't go to work line the whole day you can't go to work line the whole day you can't go to work etc so that's the way of I refuse to etc so that's the way of I refuse to etc so that's the way of I refuse to believe it's the it's it's only the

believe it's the it's it's only the believe it's the it's it's only the Republicans that do that i I would say Republicans that do that i I would say Republicans that do that i I would say so that's why I paused yeah yeah that so that's why I paused yeah yeah that so that's why I paused yeah yeah that just seems too obvious to do by just seems too obvious to do by just seems too obvious to do by both the Democrats are so weak Lex they both the Democrats are so weak Lex they both the Democrats are so weak Lex they mainly don't do that but they do do the mainly don't do that but they do do the mainly don't do that but they do do the third thing which is Jared mandry so third thing which is Jared mandry so third thing which is Jared mandry so both Republicans and Democrats also they both Republicans and Democrats also they both Republicans and Democrats also they have favorite flavors of uh yeah of have favorite flavors of uh yeah of have favorite flavors of uh yeah of messing with the vote okay yeah so Jerry messing with the vote okay yeah so Jerry messing with the vote okay yeah so Jerry mandering is the best way to rig an mandering is the best way to rig an mandering is the best way to rig an election that way the politicians pick election that way the politicians pick election that way the politicians pick their voters instead of the voters their voters instead of the voters their voters instead of the voters picking their politicians right so all picking their politicians right so all picking their politicians right so all these districts are so heavily these districts are so heavily these districts are so heavily gerrymandered that the almost can't lose gerrymandered that the almost can't lose gerrymandered that the almost can't lose they'll push most of the voters into one they'll push most of the voters into one they'll push most of the voters into one District most of the voters in another District most of the voters in another District most of the voters in another District because they don't want District because they don't want District because they don't want competition right competition right competition right so they then you're screwed they the the so they then you're screwed they the the so they then you're screwed they the the vote isn't rigged but the district is vote isn't rigged but the district is vote isn't rigged but the district is rigged so that the incumbent wins no rigged so that the incumbent wins no rigged so that the incumbent wins no matter almost no matter what right so matter almost no matter what right so matter almost no matter what right so that's why we've gotten so polarized that's why we've gotten so polarized that's why we've gotten so polarized because the Jerry Mandarin creates like because the Jerry Mandarin creates like because the Jerry Mandarin creates like 90% % of seats that are safe so they 90% % of seats that are safe so they 90% % of seats that are safe so they don't have to compromise they don't have don't have to compromise they don't have don't have to compromise they don't have to get to a middle they could just be to get to a middle they could just be to get to a middle they could just be extreme on either side because they extreme on either side because they extreme on either side because they already locked it up okay so that's the already locked it up okay so that's the already locked it up okay so that's the number one way to rig an election now number one way to rig an election now number one way to rig an election now finally the last part of is maybe the finally the last part of is maybe the finally the last part of is maybe the most important maybe even more important most important maybe even more important most important maybe even more important than Jarry Manner and that's the media than Jarry Manner and that's the media than Jarry Manner and that's the media so it just happened to RFK Jr it so it just happened to RFK Jr it so it just happened to RFK Jr it happened to Bernie in 2015 it happens to

happened to Bernie in 2015 it happens to happened to Bernie in 2015 it happens to any Outsider right or left the media if any Outsider right or left the media if any Outsider right or left the media if you're an outsider will say well radic number one they don't platform you right number one they don't platform you right so they're not going to have you on to so they're not going to have you on to so they're not going to have you on to begin with nobody's even going to find begin with nobody's even going to find begin with nobody's even going to find out about you if nobody finds out about out about you if nobody finds out about out about you if nobody finds out about you you're done for right so Bernie you you're done for right so Bernie you you're done for right so Bernie broke through that broke through that broke through that because he was so popular and the because he was so popular and the because he was so popular and the rallies were so huge that he they local rallies were so huge that he they local rallies were so huge that he they local news couldn't help but cover him Jesus news couldn't help but cover him Jesus news couldn't help but cover him Jesus Christ what are all these people doing Christ what are all these people doing Christ what are all these people doing in the middle of the city right and he in the middle of the city right and he in the middle of the city right and he slowly broke through that but do you slowly broke through that but do you slowly broke through that but do you know that in 2015 as he's doing this know that in 2015 as he's doing this know that in 2015 as he's doing this miraculous run against Hillary Clint miraculous run against Hillary Clint miraculous run against Hillary Clint nobody thinks he has a chance and here nobody thinks he has a chance and here nobody thinks he has a chance and here comes Bernie and he's almost at 48% this comes Bernie and he's almost at 48% this comes Bernie and he's almost at 48% this is he had 7 Seconds of coverage on ABC is he had 7 Seconds of coverage on ABC is he had 7 Seconds of coverage on ABC that year they just will not put you on that year they just will not put you on that year they just will not put you on that is the number one way they rig an that is the number one way they rig an that is the number one way they rig an election Bobby Kennedy Jr sitting at 20% election Bobby Kennedy Jr sitting at 20% election Bobby Kennedy Jr sitting at 20% in a primary no Town Hall 20% is a giant in a primary no Town Hall 20% is a giant in a primary no Town Hall 20% is a giant number right and you're not going to do number right and you're not going to do number right and you're not going to do a town hall you're not going to do a a town hall you're not going to do a a town hall you're not going to do a debate 12% in the general election a debate 12% in the general election a debate 12% in the general election a giant number in a general election no giant number in a general election no giant number in a general election no Town Hall no debate if no one finds out Town Hall no debate if no one finds out Town Hall no debate if no one finds out about you they don't know to vote for about you they don't know to vote for about you they don't know to vote for you right if they don't find out your you right if they don't find out your you right if they don't find out your policies corporate media rigs elections policies corporate media rigs elections policies corporate media rigs elections more than anything else in the world now more than anything else in the world now more than anything else in the world now this is something you've been a bit this is something you've been a bit this is something you've been a bit controversial about but the general sort controversial about but the general sort controversial about but the general sort of standard belief is that there's a of standard belief is that there's a of standard belief is that there's a left leaning bias in the mainstream left leaning bias in the mainstream left leaning bias in the mainstream media media media because as I think studies show a large

because as I think studies show a large because as I think studies show a large majority of journalists are left leaning majority of journalists are left leaning majority of journalists are left leaning and then uh that there's bias in big and then uh that there's bias in big and then uh that there's bias in big Tech employees of uh big tech companies Tech employees of uh big tech companies Tech employees of uh big tech companies from search engines to social media are from search engines to social media are from search engines to social media are left leaning and there that's a huge left leaning and there that's a huge left leaning and there that's a huge majority is left leaning so the the majority is left leaning so the the majority is left leaning so the the conventional wisdom is that there is a conventional wisdom is that there is a conventional wisdom is that there is a bias towards the left yeah do you think bias towards the left yeah do you think bias towards the left yeah do you think first of all I think you've argued that first of all I think you've argued that first of all I think you've argued that that's not true that there's a bias uh that's not true that there's a bias uh that's not true that there's a bias uh in the other direction but whether in the other direction but whether in the other direction but whether there's a bias or not do you think that there's a bias or not do you think that there's a bias or not do you think that how big of an impact that has on the how big of an impact that has on the how big of an impact that has on the result of the election result of the election result of the election okay so let's break that down uh Tech okay so let's break that down uh Tech okay so let's break that down uh Tech and media are totally different so let's and media are totally different so let's and media are totally different so let's do media first and we'll do Tech so on do media first and we'll do Tech so on do media first and we'll do Tech so on uh mainstream media corporate media and uh mainstream media corporate media and uh mainstream media corporate media and I I actually think that right-wing media I I actually think that right-wing media I I actually think that right-wing media like Fox News is part of corporate media like Fox News is part of corporate media like Fox News is part of corporate media they just play good cop bad cop and so they just play good cop bad cop and so they just play good cop bad cop and so in in that realm the bias is not right in in that realm the bias is not right in in that realm the bias is not right or left except on social issues okay so or left except on social issues okay so or left except on social issues okay so and that's where that image comes from and that's where that image comes from and that's where that image comes from on social issues yes the media is on social issues yes the media is on social issues yes the media is generally on the left and rightwing generally on the left and rightwing generally on the left and rightwing sorry but like this started in the 1960s sorry but like this started in the 1960s sorry but like this started in the 1960s and the rightwing got super mad at and the rightwing got super mad at and the rightwing got super mad at mainstream media saying that black mainstream media saying that black mainstream media saying that black people were equal to white people that's people were equal to white people that's people were equal to white people that's not the case anymore okay rightwing calm not the case anymore okay rightwing calm not the case anymore okay rightwing calm down I'm not calling you all racist but down I'm not calling you all racist but down I'm not calling you all racist but in the 1960s were there racism was there in the 1960s were there racism was there in the 1960s were there racism was there racism of course of course it wouldn't racism of course of course it wouldn't racism of course of course it wouldn't even let black kids into the schools even let black kids into the schools even let black kids into the schools right there was massive segregation in right there was massive segregation in right there was massive segregation in the South but a lot in the north as well the South but a lot in the north as well the South but a lot in the north as well and at that point the mainstream media

and at that point the mainstream media and at that point the mainstream media says well I mean they are citizens they says well I mean they are citizens they says well I mean they are citizens they should have equal rights should have equal rights should have equal rights and the rightwing goes and the rightwing goes and the rightwing goes bias okay yeah I mean you're kind of bias okay yeah I mean you're kind of bias okay yeah I mean you're kind of right it is a bias it is a bias towards right it is a bias it is a bias towards right it is a bias it is a bias towards equality in that case uh but it that is equality in that case uh but it that is equality in that case uh but it that is perceived as on the left now fast perceived as on the left now fast perceived as on the left now fast forward to today you don't have that on forward to today you don't have that on forward to today you don't have that on the racial issues as obviously as much the racial issues as obviously as much the racial issues as obviously as much as you had it back then but on gay as you had it back then but on gay as you had it back then but on gay marriage that existed for a long time marriage that existed for a long time marriage that existed for a long time where the media is like well they kind where the media is like well they kind where the media is like well they kind of should have the same rights as stray of should have the same rights as stray of should have the same rights as stray people right and the rightwing went bias people right and the rightwing went bias people right and the rightwing went bias right so okay you're kind of right about right so okay you're kind of right about right so okay you're kind of right about that but at the same time I would that but at the same time I would that but at the same time I would argue their position is correct right so argue their position is correct right so argue their position is correct right so but can they go too far of course they but can they go too far of course they but can they go too far of course they can go too far okay now but that's not can go too far okay now but that's not can go too far okay now but that's not the main deal guys that's to distract the main deal guys that's to distract the main deal guys that's to distract you the main deal is economic issues and you the main deal is economic issues and you the main deal is economic issues and again we say it ahead of time and you again we say it ahead of time and you again we say it ahead of time and you can see if we're right or wrong right so can see if we're right or wrong right so can see if we're right or wrong right so we will tell folks when we get to an we will tell folks when we get to an we will tell folks when we get to an economic bill you will see all of a economic bill you will see all of a economic bill you will see all of a sudden the guys who theoretically sudden the guys who theoretically sudden the guys who theoretically disagree Fox News and Ms NBC Clos ranks disagree Fox News and Ms NBC Clos ranks disagree Fox News and Ms NBC Clos ranks and you just saw it happen with price and you just saw it happen with price and you just saw it happen with price scouching that issue of price scouching scouching that issue of price scouching scouching that issue of price scouching all of a sudden there's a lot of MSNBC all of a sudden there's a lot of MSNBC all of a sudden there's a lot of MSNBC hosts CNN host Washington Post rights in hosts CNN host Washington Post rights in hosts CNN host Washington Post rights in opet against it and everybody panics is opet against it and everybody panics is opet against it and everybody panics is like no no no no no no no no you can't like no no no no no no no no you can't like no no no no no no no no you can't control anything a corporation does this control anything a corporation does this control anything a corporation does this is wrong this is wrong right oh what is wrong this is wrong right oh what is wrong this is wrong right oh what happened I thought you guys were hated happened I thought you guys were hated happened I thought you guys were hated each other all of a sudden you totally each other all of a sudden you totally each other all of a sudden you totally agree fascinating okay same thing agree fascinating okay same thing agree fascinating okay same thing happened on increasing wages when they happened on increasing wages when they happened on increasing wages when they were talking about increasing the

were talking about increasing the were talking about increasing the minimum wage Stephanie rule giant screed minimum wage Stephanie rule giant screed minimum wage Stephanie rule giant screed against it on MSNBC against it on MSNBC against it on MSNBC all of a sudden Fox News at MSNBC agree all of a sudden Fox News at MSNBC agree all of a sudden Fox News at MSNBC agree right do not touch beloved corporations right do not touch beloved corporations right do not touch beloved corporations so now that gets us to our real bias so now that gets us to our real bias so now that gets us to our real bias it's not left or right it's Pro it's not left or right it's Pro it's not left or right it's Pro corporate for all the reasons we talked corporate for all the reasons we talked corporate for all the reasons we talked about before corporate media corporate about before corporate media corporate about before corporate media corporate politicians so if you don't believe me politicians so if you don't believe me politicians so if you don't believe me today whether you're on the right or the today whether you're on the right or the today whether you're on the right or the left watch next time an economic issue left watch next time an economic issue left watch next time an economic issue where do they fall how do they react where do they fall how do they react where do they fall how do they react when anytime it's a corporate uh issue when anytime it's a corporate uh issue when anytime it's a corporate uh issue where does the media go right so that's where does the media go right so that's where does the media go right so that's the real bias of the media and so since the real bias of the media and so since the real bias of the media and so since the real bias of the media is pro the real bias of the media is pro the real bias of the media is pro corporations that is not a left-wing corporations that is not a left-wing corporations that is not a left-wing position that is considered more of a position that is considered more of a position that is considered more of a right-wing position I even think that's right-wing position I even think that's right-wing position I even think that's a misnomer because to be fair to a misnomer because to be fair to a misnomer because to be fair to right-wing voters they're not pro right-wing voters they're not pro right-wing voters they're not pro corporations they're not pro big corporations they're not pro big corporations they're not pro big business they're not pro corruption but business they're not pro corruption but business they're not pro corruption but the Republican politicians are so it the Republican politicians are so it the Republican politicians are so it gets framed as a right-wing issue right gets framed as a right-wing issue right gets framed as a right-wing issue right so if you think that they that the so if you think that they that the so if you think that they that the corporate media is too populist you just corporate media is too populist you just corporate media is too populist you just don't get it they AR they are aren't don't get it they AR they are aren't don't get it they AR they are aren't they hate populism so now when you turn they hate populism so now when you turn they hate populism so now when you turn to to to Tech so Tech's a complicated one because Tech so Tech's a complicated one because Tech so Tech's a complicated one because yeah people write the code if they're yeah people write the code if they're yeah people write the code if they're left-wingers they're going to have left-wingers they're going to have left-wingers they're going to have certain assumptions and they're they certain assumptions and they're they certain assumptions and they're they might write that into the codes or the might write that into the codes or the might write that into the codes or the rules and rules and rules and so but they're also generally speaking so but they're also generally speaking so but they're also generally speaking wealthy they're usually white they're wealthy they're usually white they're wealthy they're usually white they're usually male and those biases also get usually male and those biases also get usually male and those biases also get go in and there's a lot of people on the

go in and there's a lot of people on the go in and there's a lot of people on the left who object to that bias right okay left who object to that bias right okay left who object to that bias right okay but that's a fair and interesting but that's a fair and interesting but that's a fair and interesting conversation and one we have to be conversation and one we have to be conversation and one we have to be careful of and one we could find a careful of and one we could find a careful of and one we could find a hopefully find a middle ground on but hopefully find a middle ground on but hopefully find a middle ground on but that's not the major problem the major that's not the major problem the major that's not the major problem the major reason why big Tech gets attacked is reason why big Tech gets attacked is reason why big Tech gets attacked is because they are competitors of who because they are competitors of who because they are competitors of who social media competes with mainstream social media competes with mainstream social media competes with mainstream media so mainstream media has been media so mainstream media has been media so mainstream media has been attacking big Tech from day one attacking big Tech from day one attacking big Tech from day one pretending that it's a they're really pretending that it's a they're really pretending that it's a they're really concerned yeah they're really concerned concerned yeah they're really concerned concerned yeah they're really concerned because because because that's their competition and they're that's their competition and they're that's their competition and they're getting their ass handed to him so I did getting their ass handed to him so I did getting their ass handed to him so I did a story on The Young Turks about CNN a story on The Young Turks about CNN a story on The Young Turks about CNN article about all the dangers of social article about all the dangers of social article about all the dangers of social media I'm like guys this is written by media I'm like guys this is written by media I'm like guys this is written by their advertising Department okay and their advertising Department okay and their advertising Department okay and they advert and they in fact they go to they advert and they in fact they go to they advert and they in fact they go to the advertisers and they find a rando the advertisers and they find a rando the advertisers and they find a rando video on YouTube or Facebook right out video on YouTube or Facebook right out video on YouTube or Facebook right out of billions of videos and they're like of billions of videos and they're like of billions of videos and they're like look at your ad is on this video do you look at your ad is on this video do you look at your ad is on this video do you denounce and reject every big Tech denounce and reject every big Tech denounce and reject every big Tech company and every member of social media company and every member of social media company and every member of social media and like advertis is like yeah I do and like advertis is like yeah I do and like advertis is like yeah I do right meanwhile they're doing mil Island right meanwhile they're doing mil Island right meanwhile they're doing mil Island on on on TV okay I didn't know that out there's TV okay I didn't know that out there's TV okay I didn't know that out there's literally a show they came out recently literally a show they came out recently literally a show they came out recently where it's moms and their sons and they where it's moms and their sons and they where it's moms and their sons and they each other oh wow okay they don't each other oh wow okay they don't each other oh wow okay they don't they don't have sex with their mom they they don't have sex with their mom they they don't have sex with their mom they have sex with a different mom or they

have sex with a different mom or they have sex with a different mom or they date but then the shows oh then they Go date but then the shows oh then they Go date but then the shows oh then they Go off into a corner Etc right I'm like off into a corner Etc right I'm like off into a corner Etc right I'm like you're doing this kind of like the worst you're doing this kind of like the worst you're doing this kind of like the worst degrading ridiculous immoral programming degrading ridiculous immoral programming degrading ridiculous immoral programming and then you found a video on YouTube and then you found a video on YouTube and then you found a video on YouTube that has a problem get the out of that has a problem get the out of that has a problem get the out of here you're just trying to kneecap your here you're just trying to kneecap your here you're just trying to kneecap your competition let's talk about the The competition let's talk about the The competition let's talk about the The Saga of Joe Biden so over the past year Saga of Joe Biden so over the past year Saga of Joe Biden so over the past year over the past few months can you just over the past few months can you just over the past few months can you just rewind where where have you maybe tell rewind where where have you maybe tell rewind where where have you maybe tell the story of uh Joe Biden as you see the story of uh Joe Biden as you see the story of uh Joe Biden as you see from the election perspective from the election perspective from the election perspective yeah so about a year ago I I I'm looking yeah so about a year ago I I I'm looking yeah so about a year ago I I I'm looking at the polling and first of all I have at the polling and first of all I have at the polling and first of all I have eyes right and ears so whenever I see eyes right and ears so whenever I see eyes right and ears so whenever I see Biden I'm like this is a disaster and Biden I'm like this is a disaster and Biden I'm like this is a disaster and then I go and talk to real people and then I go and talk to real people and then I go and talk to real people and when I say real people I mean not in when I say real people I mean not in when I say real people I mean not in politics that's not their job right politics that's not their job right politics that's not their job right because people involved in politics for because people involved in politics for because people involved in politics for media have a certain perspective and media have a certain perspective and media have a certain perspective and it's colored by all the exchanges in it's colored by all the exchanges in it's colored by all the exchanges in mainstream media social media Etc real mainstream media social media Etc real mainstream media social media Etc real people aren't on Twitter having people aren't on Twitter having people aren't on Twitter having political fights they're not watching political fights they're not watching political fights they're not watching CNN religiously Etc whenever I was at a CNN religiously Etc whenever I was at a CNN religiously Etc whenever I was at a barbecue you guys all Democrats and some barbecue you guys all Democrats and some barbecue you guys all Democrats and some barbecues yeah uh what do you guys think barbecues yeah uh what do you guys think barbecues yeah uh what do you guys think of Joe Biden like almost in unison too of Joe Biden like almost in unison too of Joe Biden like almost in unison too old every real person said too old so I old every real person said too old so I old every real person said too old so I look at what real people are saying look at what real people are saying look at what real people are saying that's why I thought Trump was going to that's why I thought Trump was going to that's why I thought Trump was going to win in 2016 I go in the middle of Ohio I win in 2016 I go in the middle of Ohio I win in 2016 I go in the middle of Ohio I can't see a Hillary Clinton sign for can't see a Hillary Clinton sign for can't see a Hillary Clinton sign for hundreds of miles right is Trump

hundreds of miles right is Trump hundreds of miles right is Trump paraphernalia everywhere right so that's paraphernalia everywhere right so that's paraphernalia everywhere right so that's not end all Beall you could say it's not end all Beall you could say it's not end all Beall you could say it's anecdotal but you begin to collect data anecdotal but you begin to collect data anecdotal but you begin to collect data points right but then the real data points right but then the real data points right but then the real data points are in polling okay so now I'm points are in polling okay so now I'm points are in polling okay so now I'm looking at Biden looking at Biden looking at Biden polling he's in the 30s no incoming in polling he's in the 30s no incoming in polling he's in the 30s no incoming in the 30s has ever come back to win so I'm the 30s has ever come back to win so I'm the 30s has ever come back to win so I'm like it's already over then all of a like it's already over then all of a like it's already over then all of a sudden oh my God Trump takes a lead with sudden oh my God Trump takes a lead with sudden oh my God Trump takes a lead with Latinos it's it's double over by the Latinos it's it's double over by the Latinos it's it's double over by the later in the process Trump took the lead later in the process Trump took the lead later in the process Trump took the lead with young voters I'm like this is the with young voters I'm like this is the with young voters I'm like this is the most over elction in history a Democrat most over elction in history a Democrat most over elction in history a Democrat cannot win if they're not winning young cannot win if they're not winning young cannot win if they're not winning young voters that's impossible Trump's cutting voters that's impossible Trump's cutting voters that's impossible Trump's cutting into his lead with black voters this into his lead with black voters this into his lead with black voters this thing is thing is thing is over right and I go tell people and over right and I go tell people and over right and I go tell people and they're like you're crazy why do they they're like you're crazy why do they they're like you're crazy why do they think I'm crazy because MSNBC is lying think I'm crazy because MSNBC is lying think I'm crazy because MSNBC is lying to them 247 telling them that Joe Biden to them 247 telling them that Joe Biden to them 247 telling them that Joe Biden uh created sliced bread and the wheel uh created sliced bread and the wheel uh created sliced bread and the wheel and fire and by the and my favorite and fire and by the and my favorite and fire and by the and my favorite talking point was he's a Dynamo behind talking point was he's a Dynamo behind talking point was he's a Dynamo behind the the the scenes yeah I'm like okay let me get scenes yeah I'm like okay let me get scenes yeah I'm like okay let me get this right it's like an SNL skit right this right it's like an SNL skit right this right it's like an SNL skit right I'm like so behind the scenes he like I'm like so behind the scenes he like I'm like so behind the scenes he like all right Sally get me the memo on that all right Sally get me the memo on that all right Sally get me the memo on that and we're okay we're going to do this and we're okay we're going to do this and we're okay we're going to do this and I'm in command of the material then and I'm in command of the material then and I'm in command of the material then he goes in front of the he goes in front of the he goes in front of the camera anyways why would any politician camera anyways why would any politician camera anyways why would any politician do that why why would they be terrible do that why why would they be terrible do that why why would they be terrible in front of the camera and great off in front of the camera and great off in front of the camera and great off camera doesn't make any sense but once camera doesn't make any sense but once camera doesn't make any sense but once you get people enough propaganda and Ms you get people enough propaganda and Ms you get people enough propaganda and Ms NBC created blue Maga right they'll

NBC created blue Maga right they'll NBC created blue Maga right they'll believe anything so they believe that believe anything so they believe that believe anything so they believe that Biden was Dynamic and young and that he Biden was Dynamic and young and that he Biden was Dynamic and young and that he was the best possible candidate to beat was the best possible candidate to beat was the best possible candidate to beat Donald Trump when in reality he was Donald Trump when in reality he was Donald Trump when in reality he was about the only Democrat who couldn't about the only Democrat who couldn't about the only Democrat who couldn't beat Donald Trump so number one I don't beat Donald Trump so number one I don't beat Donald Trump so number one I don't co-sign on a I don't care which co-sign on a I don't care which co-sign on a I don't care which side you're on number two as you heard side you're on number two as you heard side you're on number two as you heard earlier I can't have Trump winning it earlier I can't have Trump winning it earlier I can't have Trump winning it endangers the country it endangers our endangers the country it endangers our endangers the country it endangers our constitution Etc so I'm going to do constitution Etc so I'm going to do constitution Etc so I'm going to do something about it and so I start something about it and so I start something about it and so I start something called Operation HOPE on The something called Operation HOPE on The something called Operation HOPE on The Young Turks and we asked the audience Young Turks and we asked the audience Young Turks and we asked the audience what should we do right so there's what should we do right so there's what should we do right so there's different projects in Operation Hope and different projects in Operation Hope and different projects in Operation Hope and but the first project that pops up is but the first project that pops up is but the first project that pops up is knock Biden out of the race okay and so knock Biden out of the race okay and so knock Biden out of the race okay and so then I ask our paying members on tyt I then I ask our paying members on tyt I then I ask our paying members on tyt I say guys you're going to vote and then say guys you're going to vote and then say guys you're going to vote and then I'm going to do what you tell me to do I'm going to do what you tell me to do I'm going to do what you tell me to do if you say no I like Biden or I think if you say no I like Biden or I think if you say no I like Biden or I think Biden's the best candidate or even if he Biden's the best candidate or even if he Biden's the best candidate or even if he isn't we're not going to be able to win isn't we're not going to be able to win isn't we're not going to be able to win on this so don't do it right should I on this so don't do it right should I on this so don't do it right should I enter the primary against Biden okay enter the primary against Biden okay enter the primary against Biden okay 7624 go enter right I'm a populist you 7624 go enter right I'm a populist you 7624 go enter right I'm a populist you tell me to go you're my paying members tell me to go you're my paying members tell me to go you're my paying members you're my boss I'm G to go okay so I you're my boss I'm G to go okay so I you're my boss I'm G to go okay so I enter the primary now I'm not born in enter the primary now I'm not born in enter the primary now I'm not born in the country so people are going to freak the country so people are going to freak the country so people are going to freak out about that I'm a talk show host like out about that I'm a talk show host like out about that I'm a talk show host like the establishment media despises me the establishment media despises me the establishment media despises me right so I'm not going to get any air right so I'm not going to get any air right so I'm not going to get any air time in fact we consider hiring the top time in fact we consider hiring the top time in fact we consider hiring the top booking agent in New York we talked to

booking agent in New York we talked to booking agent in New York we talked to him and he says well you know I'm him and he says well you know I'm him and he says well you know I'm actually in New York this week and he actually in New York this week and he actually in New York this week and he says I'm going to go talk to those guys says I'm going to go talk to those guys says I'm going to go talk to those guys and I'll come I'll come back to you and and I'll come I'll come back to you and and I'll come I'll come back to you and he was really decent because normally he was really decent because normally he was really decent because normally you know he charges a lot just take the you know he charges a lot just take the you know he charges a lot just take the money right and go oh yeah yeah I'll get money right and go oh yeah yeah I'll get money right and go oh yeah yeah I'll get you on but he was a wonderful guy he you on but he was a wonderful guy he you on but he was a wonderful guy he said I talked to them you're banned so said I talked to them you're banned so said I talked to them you're banned so don't don't do it like you're not you're don't don't do it like you're not you're don't don't do it like you're not you're banned at CNN you're banned at MSNBC and banned at CNN you're banned at MSNBC and banned at CNN you're banned at MSNBC and I think you're banned on Fox new but I'm I think you're banned on Fox new but I'm I think you're banned on Fox new but I'm not sure okay so so long odds why do you not sure okay so so long odds why do you not sure okay so so long odds why do you do it because if you think we're going do it because if you think we're going do it because if you think we're going to crash into the iceberg you might as to crash into the iceberg you might as to crash into the iceberg you might as well bum rush the captain's quars right well bum rush the captain's quars right well bum rush the captain's quars right I'm lunging at the wheel so what I'm lunging at the wheel so what I'm lunging at the wheel so what difference can I make well I can make a difference can I make well I can make a difference can I make well I can make a difference by going on every show on difference by going on every show on difference by going on every show on planet Earth and going he's too old he's planet Earth and going he's too old he's planet Earth and going he's too old he's in in the 30s he has no chance of in in the 30s he has no chance of in in the 30s he has no chance of winning no chance of winning I go on winning no chance of winning I go on winning no chance of winning I go on Charlamagne show Breakfast Club right Charlamagne show Breakfast Club right Charlamagne show Breakfast Club right Charlamagne agrees all of a sudden we're Charlamagne agrees all of a sudden we're Charlamagne agrees all of a sudden we're having buzz and then people go oh having buzz and then people go oh having buzz and then people go oh Charlemagne said he has no chance of Charlemagne said he has no chance of Charlemagne said he has no chance of winning then Charlemagne's on The Daily winning then Charlemagne's on The Daily winning then Charlemagne's on The Daily Show talks to John Stewart John Stewart Show talks to John Stewart John Stewart Show talks to John Stewart John Stewart does a seg not this is not necessarily does a seg not this is not necessarily does a seg not this is not necessarily causal but Buzz is building right so causal but Buzz is building right so causal but Buzz is building right so then John Stewart does a segment if you then John Stewart does a segment if you then John Stewart does a segment if you remember and people got super pissed at remember and people got super pissed at remember and people got super pissed at him too old can't win and all that buzz him too old can't win and all that buzz him too old can't win and all that buzz is building meanwhile unrelated to us is building meanwhile unrelated to us is building meanwhile unrelated to us David axod and James carvo and I'm like David axod and James carvo and I'm like David axod and James carvo and I'm like guys figure it out who does axar Rod guys figure it out who does axar Rod guys figure it out who does axar Rod speak for the top advisor for Barack speak for the top advisor for Barack speak for the top advisor for Barack Obama who is James Carville the top Obama who is James Carville the top Obama who is James Carville the top adviser for the clintons this is the adviser for the clintons this is the adviser for the clintons this is the clintons and the Obamas sending their

clintons and the Obamas sending their clintons and the Obamas sending their emissaries to say we can read a poll emissaries to say we can read a poll emissaries to say we can read a poll he's going to lose change direction so he's going to lose change direction so he's going to lose change direction so when the debate happens we laid the when the debate happens we laid the when the debate happens we laid the groundwork if we hadn't laid the groundwork if we hadn't laid the groundwork if we hadn't laid the groundwork debate would have been the groundwork debate would have been the groundwork debate would have been the first time that blue Maga would have first time that blue Maga would have first time that blue Maga would have thought oh maybe Biden can't win right thought oh maybe Biden can't win right thought oh maybe Biden can't win right but since all of us said it and strange but since all of us said it and strange but since all of us said it and strange bad fellows I LOE Nancy Pelosi but she bad fellows I LOE Nancy Pelosi but she bad fellows I LOE Nancy Pelosi but she was was on our side I got a lot of was was on our side I got a lot of was was on our side I got a lot of issues with Bill Maher he was on our issues with Bill Maher he was on our issues with Bill Maher he was on our side right I got a lot of issues with side right I got a lot of issues with side right I got a lot of issues with Axel rod and Carville and they were on Axel rod and Carville and they were on Axel rod and Carville and they were on our side so the people who believed in our side so the people who believed in our side so the people who believed in objective reality kind of independently objective reality kind of independently objective reality kind of independently made a plan let's show people objective made a plan let's show people objective made a plan let's show people objective reality and we did and we drove him out reality and we did and we drove him out reality and we did and we drove him out and it it made all the difference so you and it it made all the difference so you and it it made all the difference so you think he stepped down voluntarily or was think he stepped down voluntarily or was think he stepped down voluntarily or was he forced out both so again it depends he forced out both so again it depends he forced out both so again it depends on what you mean so was he forced out of on what you mean so was he forced out of on what you mean so was he forced out of course he was was forced out you think course he was was forced out you think course he was was forced out you think he just woke up he's like oh yeah you he just woke up he's like oh yeah you he just woke up he's like oh yeah you know what screw my legacy I don't want know what screw my legacy I don't want know what screw my legacy I don't want to be a two-term president I'll just to be a two-term president I'll just to be a two-term president I'll just drop out for noes no we forced them out drop out for noes no we forced them out drop out for noes no we forced them out of course we did right and when I say we of course we did right and when I say we of course we did right and when I say we I had a tiny tiny tiny role the people I had a tiny tiny tiny role the people I had a tiny tiny tiny role the people who had the major roles Nancy Pelosi who had the major roles Nancy Pelosi who had the major roles Nancy Pelosi Barack Obama and all those folks but Barack Obama and all those folks but Barack Obama and all those folks but even they were not the main uh driving even they were not the main uh driving even they were not the main uh driving force the number one driving force were force the number one driving force were force the number one driving force were the the the donors what is the source of power of donors what is the source of power of donors what is the source of power of Bernie or Massie the people right what Bernie or Massie the people right what Bernie or Massie the people right what is the source of power for Biden the is the source of power for Biden the is the source of power for Biden the donors the donors made Biden he is the donors the donors made Biden he is the donors the donors made Biden he is the donor's candidate and the donors that's donor's candidate and the donors that's donor's candidate and the donors that's why he told the donors nothing will

why he told the donors nothing will why he told the donors nothing will fundamentally change that it like you fundamentally change that it like you fundamentally change that it like you can if you say can if you say can if you say Lex no Jen I think you're too extreme Lex no Jen I think you're too extreme Lex no Jen I think you're too extreme that Biden works for the donors 98% I that Biden works for the donors 98% I that Biden works for the donors 98% I think he only works for them 80% or 55% think he only works for them 80% or 55% think he only works for them 80% or 55% fine we could have that debate but you fine we could have that debate but you fine we could have that debate but you can't argue that it isn't his source of can't argue that it isn't his source of can't argue that it isn't his source of power and you can't argue it anymore power and you can't argue it anymore power and you can't argue it anymore even if you were going to argue it even if you were going to argue it even if you were going to argue it earlier because once the donors said earlier because once the donors said earlier because once the donors said we're not giving you any more money he we're not giving you any more money he we're not giving you any more money he didn't have any options he couldn't he didn't have any options he couldn't he didn't have any options he couldn't he couldn't go on so but was he forced out couldn't go on so but was he forced out couldn't go on so but was he forced out at like knife point or something no so at like knife point or something no so at like knife point or something no so was it voluntary yeah ultimately if was it voluntary yeah ultimately if was it voluntary yeah ultimately if Biden decided to stay in there was Biden decided to stay in there was Biden decided to stay in there was nothing we could do about it and so he nothing we could do about it and so he nothing we could do about it and so he had to voluntarily make that decision had to voluntarily make that decision had to voluntarily make that decision but he voluntarily made it because he but he voluntarily made it because he but he voluntarily made it because he had no choice left yeah I wish he had no choice left yeah I wish he had no choice left yeah I wish he stepped down voluntarily from a place of stepped down voluntarily from a place of stepped down voluntarily from a place of strength so I think I think presidents I strength so I think I think presidents I strength so I think I think presidents I think politicians in general especially think politicians in general especially think politicians in general especially at the highest levels want Legacy and to at the highest levels want Legacy and to at the highest levels want Legacy and to me at least one of the greatest things me at least one of the greatest things me at least one of the greatest things you could do is to walk away from at the you could do is to walk away from at the you could do is to walk away from at the top I mean George Washington so walk top I mean George Washington so walk top I mean George Washington so walk away from power is I think universally away from power is I think universally away from power is I think universally respected especially if you got a good respected especially if you got a good respected especially if you got a good speech to go with it and you you do it speech to go with it and you you do it speech to go with it and you you do it really well not in some kind of cynical really well not in some kind of cynical really well not in some kind of cynical or uh calculator or some kind of uh or uh calculator or some kind of uh or uh calculator or some kind of uh transactional way but just like as a transactional way but just like as a transactional way but just like as a great leader great leader great leader and maybe be a little bit even more and maybe be a little bit even more and maybe be a little bit even more dramatic than you need to be in doing it dramatic than you need to be in doing it dramatic than you need to be in doing it yeah I thought I thought that would be a yeah I thought I thought that would be a yeah I thought I thought that would be a beautiful moment and then

beautiful moment and then beautiful moment and then launch a some kind of democratic process launch a some kind of democratic process launch a some kind of democratic process for for for um electing a different option not only um electing a different option not only um electing a different option not only did I agree with you did I agree with you did I agree with you 100% I reached one of the his top 100% I reached one of the his top 100% I reached one of the his top advisors one of the guys you see in the advisors one of the guys you see in the advisors one of the guys you see in the press all the time as in his in his press all the time as in his in his press all the time as in his in his inner circle I never said that before inner circle I never said that before inner circle I never said that before because we were in the middle of it and because we were in the middle of it and because we were in the middle of it and I'm never going to betray anyone's I'm never going to betray anyone's I'm never going to betray anyone's confidence and I'll never say who's who confidence and I'll never say who's who confidence and I'll never say who's who it was okay but he was gracious enough it was okay but he was gracious enough it was okay but he was gracious enough to to meet with me as I was about to to to meet with me as I was about to to to meet with me as I was about to enter the primary and look it's smart enter the primary and look it's smart enter the primary and look it's smart too because get information intelligence too because get information intelligence too because get information intelligence Etc is this guy going to be trouble or Etc is this guy going to be trouble or Etc is this guy going to be trouble or not trouble right but at least he took not trouble right but at least he took not trouble right but at least he took the meeting and the case I made is the meeting and the case I made is the meeting and the case I made is exactly the one you just said Lex I said exactly the one you just said Lex I said exactly the one you just said Lex I said if he drops this about 10 months ago I if he drops this about 10 months ago I if he drops this about 10 months ago I said if he drops out said if he drops out said if he drops out now they built statues of him right the now they built statues of him right the now they built statues of him right the Democrats if you're a right-winger you Democrats if you're a right-winger you Democrats if you're a right-winger you hate him I get it but the Democrats hate him I get it but the Democrats hate him I get it but the Democrats would have said he beat Trump and would have said he beat Trump and would have said he beat Trump and protected democracy in 2020 and he steps protected democracy in 2020 and he steps protected democracy in 2020 and he steps down graciously now to make sure we beat down graciously now to make sure we beat down graciously now to make sure we beat Trump again in Trump again in Trump again in 2024 and he lets go of power voluntarily 2024 and he lets go of power voluntarily 2024 and he lets go of power voluntarily you're he's going to be a hero an you're he's going to be a hero an you're he's going to be a hero an absolute hero but if he absolute hero but if he absolute hero but if he doesn't you're going to force all of us doesn't you're going to force all of us doesn't you're going to force all of us to kick the living crap out of him and to kick the living crap out of him and to kick the living crap out of him and tell everybody he's an egomaniac which tell everybody he's an egomaniac which tell everybody he's an egomaniac which he is and he's doing this for two so he is and he's doing this for two so he is and he's doing this for two so that he could be if you don't know that he could be if you don't know that he could be if you don't know Washington in that bubble if you're a Washington in that bubble if you're a Washington in that bubble if you're a one-term president you're a loser if one-term president you're a loser if one-term president you're a loser if you're a two-term president you have a

you're a two-term president you have a you're a two-term president you have a legacy in your historic he's running for legacy in your historic he's running for legacy in your historic he's running for one reason one reason only my one reason one reason only my one reason one reason only my legacy I will be a two-term president I legacy I will be a two-term president I legacy I will be a two-term president I will be considered historic I'm like will be considered historic I'm like will be considered historic I'm like brother now you're going to be brother now you're going to be brother now you're going to be considered a villain the villain of The considered a villain the villain of The considered a villain the villain of The Story You're handing it right back to Story You're handing it right back to Story You're handing it right back to Trump you're not going to win and you Trump you're not going to win and you Trump you're not going to win and you know look at the numbers any Pol know look at the numbers any Pol know look at the numbers any Pol political professional knows you're not political professional knows you're not political professional knows you're not going to win so you have hero or villain going to win so you have hero or villain going to win so you have hero or villain and you get to choose but if you think and you get to choose but if you think and you get to choose but if you think you're going to be a hero and be Trump you're going to be a hero and be Trump you're going to be a hero and be Trump that is not a choice you have that is that is not a choice you have that is that is not a choice you have that is not going to happen and they didn't not going to happen and they didn't not going to happen and they didn't believe us but by the end they did were believe us but by the end they did were believe us but by the end they did were you troubled by the um how KL Harris was you troubled by the um how KL Harris was you troubled by the um how KL Harris was selected after he stepped down yes and selected after he stepped down yes and selected after he stepped down yes and no no no so I argued for an open convention and so I argued for an open convention and so I argued for an open convention and so if Biden had stepped down when we so if Biden had stepped down when we so if Biden had stepped down when we were trying to get people into the were trying to get people into the were trying to get people into the primary knock them out then it would primary knock them out then it would primary knock them out then it would that would have been a perfect solution that would have been a perfect solution that would have been a perfect solution then all the governors could go in walls then all the governors could go in walls then all the governors could go in walls Basher Whitmer KLA Harris goes in Basher Whitmer KLA Harris goes in Basher Whitmer KLA Harris goes in obviously they have a real primary at obviously they have a real primary at obviously they have a real primary at that point me and later Dean Phillips that point me and later Dean Phillips that point me and later Dean Phillips came in me Dean and I mean Maran came in me Dean and I mean Maran came in me Dean and I mean Maran wouldn't drop out me and Dean would wouldn't drop out me and Dean would wouldn't drop out me and Dean would definitely drop out because our whole definitely drop out because our whole definitely drop out because our whole point was get other people in the race point was get other people in the race point was get other people in the race make sure we win right so okay then you make sure we win right so okay then you make sure we win right so okay then you would have had a great primary it would would have had a great primary it would would have had a great primary it would have been the right way to do it both have been the right way to do it both have been the right way to do it both morally you know constitutionally Etc morally you know constitutionally Etc morally you know constitutionally Etc but also as a matter of politics because but also as a matter of politics because but also as a matter of politics because you would have gotten a lot of coverage you would have gotten a lot of coverage you would have gotten a lot of coverage for your young exciting candidates uh for your young exciting candidates uh for your young exciting candidates uh and you would have legitimized the idea

and you would have legitimized the idea and you would have legitimized the idea of that you're protecting democracy okay of that you're protecting democracy okay of that you're protecting democracy okay so that didn't happen because of Biden so that didn't happen because of Biden so that didn't happen because of Biden it is what it is so now when Biden drops it is what it is so now when Biden drops it is what it is so now when Biden drops out at least do a vesage of democracy go out at least do a vesage of democracy go out at least do a vesage of democracy go to the convention and do what it's to the convention and do what it's to the convention and do what it's designed to do which is pick a candidate designed to do which is pick a candidate designed to do which is pick a candidate ezar Klein made a great case for this in ezar Klein made a great case for this in ezar Klein made a great case for this in the New York Times podcast that he did the New York Times podcast that he did the New York Times podcast that he did that made a huge difference and he was that made a huge difference and he was that made a huge difference and he was great for doing that so I believe in an great for doing that so I believe in an great for doing that so I believe in an open convention but I know Democrats open convention but I know Democrats open convention but I know Democrats that love to anoint because they don't that love to anoint because they don't that love to anoint because they don't trust the people so they think the trust the people so they think the trust the people so they think the elites are uh Geniuses don't worry we'll elites are uh Geniuses don't worry we'll elites are uh Geniuses don't worry we'll pick the right candidate yeah I remember pick the right candidate yeah I remember pick the right candidate yeah I remember when you picked Hillary Clinton had that when you picked Hillary Clinton had that when you picked Hillary Clinton had that work out right and I remember when you work out right and I remember when you work out right and I remember when you said Joe Biden was the right candidate said Joe Biden was the right candidate said Joe Biden was the right candidate in 2024 how'd that work out do not in 2024 how'd that work out do not in 2024 how'd that work out do not anoint right so but in the end they anoint right so but in the end they anoint right so but in the end they didn't so what happened was Biden does didn't so what happened was Biden does didn't so what happened was Biden does the first announcement he either forgot the first announcement he either forgot the first announcement he either forgot or on purpose didn't put kamla Harris in or on purpose didn't put kamla Harris in or on purpose didn't put kamla Harris in there so there's all this Kumbaya now n there so there's all this Kumbaya now n there so there's all this Kumbaya now n they don't like each other okay and they don't like each other okay and they don't like each other okay and Biden's been screwing her over the Biden's been screwing her over the Biden's been screwing her over the entire she's time she's been vice entire she's time she's been vice entire she's time she's been vice president so he doesn't put her in the president so he doesn't put her in the president so he doesn't put her in the original statement and I'm like whoa I original statement and I'm like whoa I original statement and I'm like whoa I do a live video IM media I'm like KL do a live video IM media I'm like KL do a live video IM media I'm like KL Harris is not in the statement right in Harris is not in the statement right in Harris is not in the statement right in the middle of my video they put out a the middle of my video they put out a the middle of my video they put out a second one going okay okay fine KLA second one going okay okay fine KLA second one going okay okay fine KLA Harris right because that's too much for Harris right because that's too much for Harris right because that's too much for the president not to end you think it the president not to end you think it the president not to end you think it was like really like somebody like was like really like somebody like was like really like somebody like stormed into the room and said you Absol stormed into the room and said you Absol stormed into the room and said you Absol must I I don't know I wasn't there but must I I don't know I wasn't there but must I I don't know I wasn't there but probably right or they plan I don't know probably right or they plan I don't know probably right or they plan I don't know but the bottom line is it was glaring but the bottom line is it was glaring but the bottom line is it was glaring that he didn't put her in the first that he didn't put her in the first that he didn't put her in the first letter okay so he had to put her in the

letter okay so he had to put her in the letter okay so he had to put her in the second one fine no problem but Obama second one fine no problem but Obama second one fine no problem but Obama Pelosi and Sh Schumer did not endorse Pelosi and Sh Schumer did not endorse Pelosi and Sh Schumer did not endorse KLA Harris that's huge normally the KLA Harris that's huge normally the KLA Harris that's huge normally the Democrats would all endorse her and Democrats would all endorse her and Democrats would all endorse her and would all say she's anointed shut up would all say she's anointed shut up would all say she's anointed shut up everybody and then MSNBC would scream everybody and then MSNBC would scream everybody and then MSNBC would scream shut up shut up she's ano Ed right but shut up shut up she's ano Ed right but shut up shut up she's ano Ed right but they didn't do that so then KLA Harris they didn't do that so then KLA Harris they didn't do that so then KLA Harris had to win over the delegates and I had to win over the delegates and I had to win over the delegates and I thought she would win them over in the thought she would win them over in the thought she would win them over in the convention but she locked them up in two convention but she locked them up in two convention but she locked them up in two days and she I know because I know days and she I know because I know days and she I know because I know delegates CU I ran and the delegates are delegates CU I ran and the delegates are delegates CU I ran and the delegates are calling me saying she's on she's getting calling me saying she's on she's getting calling me saying she's on she's getting on a zoom right now with us right she on a zoom right now with us right she on a zoom right now with us right she went to all the states and worked her went to all the states and worked her went to all the states and worked her ass off and locked up enough delegates ass off and locked up enough delegates ass off and locked up enough delegates to get the to get the nomination in two to get the to get the nomination in two to get the to get the nomination in two days yeah but come on it's Biden days yeah but come on it's Biden days yeah but come on it's Biden endorsed of course so why is that and of endorsed of course so why is that and of endorsed of course so why is that and of course why not course why not course why not say uh sort of layout walls and Shapiro say uh sort of layout walls and Shapiro say uh sort of layout walls and Shapiro and KLA Harris and the options to say and KLA Harris and the options to say and KLA Harris and the options to say let's like at least a facade of let's like at least a facade of let's like at least a facade of democracy of a democratic process democracy of a democratic process democracy of a democratic process there's what should happen and what is there's what should happen and what is there's what should happen and what is likely to happen so should Biden not likely to happen so should Biden not likely to happen so should Biden not have endorsed yeah of course I I think have endorsed yeah of course I I think have endorsed yeah of course I I think Biden should have done the same thing as Biden should have done the same thing as Biden should have done the same thing as Obama and Pelosi and not endorse and say Obama and Pelosi and not endorse and say Obama and Pelosi and not endorse and say hey we'd love to have a process where we hey we'd love to have a process where we hey we'd love to have a process where we figure out who the right nominee is and figure out who the right nominee is and figure out who the right nominee is and at that point I'm really worried about at that point I'm really worried about at that point I'm really worried about KLA Harris cuz she's doing word salads KLA Harris cuz she's doing word salads KLA Harris cuz she's doing word salads non-stop right so I'm like don't make non-stop right so I'm like don't make non-stop right so I'm like don't make the same mistake we did before and just the same mistake we did before and just the same mistake we did before and just picked someone out of a hat test them

picked someone out of a hat test them picked someone out of a hat test them test them you get stronger candidates test them you get stronger candidates test them you get stronger candidates when you test them the authoritarian when you test them the authoritarian when you test them the authoritarian nature of the DNC drives me crazy they nature of the DNC drives me crazy they nature of the DNC drives me crazy they don't believe in testing candidates they don't believe in testing candidates they don't believe in testing candidates they don't believe in letting their own don't believe in letting their own don't believe in letting their own voters decide and look when we were in voters decide and look when we were in voters decide and look when we were in the primary they canceled the Florida the primary they canceled the Florida the primary they canceled the Florida election and then and they took me Dean election and then and they took me Dean election and then and they took me Dean and MaryAnn off the ballot in North and MaryAnn off the ballot in North and MaryAnn off the ballot in North Carolina and Tennessee I'm like guys if Carolina and Tennessee I'm like guys if Carolina and Tennessee I'm like guys if you're going to make a case for you're going to make a case for you're going to make a case for democracy in the general election and democracy in the general election and democracy in the general election and you cancel elections in the primaries do you cancel elections in the primaries do you cancel elections in the primaries do you not get how ridiculous you look how you not get how ridiculous you look how you not get how ridiculous you look how hypocritical you look right so I didn't hypocritical you look right so I didn't hypocritical you look right so I didn't want them to Biden to endorse anyone but want them to Biden to endorse anyone but want them to Biden to endorse anyone but I'm shocked that they didn't all endorse I'm shocked that they didn't all endorse I'm shocked that they didn't all endorse her because normally what happens is her because normally what happens is her because normally what happens is they all endorse so it bottom line Lex they all endorse so it bottom line Lex they all endorse so it bottom line Lex is did she like earn it in a perfect is did she like earn it in a perfect is did she like earn it in a perfect system not even close right but did she system not even close right but did she system not even close right but did she earn it enough in this imperfect way earn it enough in this imperfect way earn it enough in this imperfect way where at least she showed some degree of where at least she showed some degree of where at least she showed some degree of competence that assuaged my concerns yes competence that assuaged my concerns yes competence that assuaged my concerns yes so because a normal Democrat would so because a normal Democrat would so because a normal Democrat would bungle that they wouldn't go talk like bungle that they wouldn't go talk like bungle that they wouldn't go talk like Hillary Clinton wouldn't have talked to Hillary Clinton wouldn't have talked to Hillary Clinton wouldn't have talked to the delegates she would assume that the delegates she would assume that the delegates she would assume that she's the queen and that they would all she's the queen and that they would all she's the queen and that they would all bow their heads she would you know so bow their heads she would you know so bow their heads she would you know so the fact that she did Elementary the fact that she did Elementary the fact that she did Elementary politics correct for Democrats that's politics correct for Democrats that's politics correct for Democrats that's like a big win it just really frustrated like a big win it just really frustrated like a big win it just really frustrated me because me because me because um it it smelled of the same thing of um it it smelled of the same thing of um it it smelled of the same thing of over Bernie in 2015 16 and RFK over Bernie in 2015 16 and RFK over Bernie in 2015 16 and RFK and just the anointing aspect now they

and just the anointing aspect now they and just the anointing aspect now they seem to have gotten lucky in the seem to have gotten lucky in the seem to have gotten lucky in the situation that it's very possible that K situation that it's very possible that K situation that it's very possible that K Harris would have been selected through Harris would have been selected through Harris would have been selected through a democratic process but I have to say a democratic process but I have to say a democratic process but I have to say listening to the species of the DNC listening to the species of the DNC listening to the species of the DNC walls was amazing uh Shapiro was really walls was amazing uh Shapiro was really walls was amazing uh Shapiro was really strong and K actually was much better as strong and K actually was much better as strong and K actually was much better as compared to her as a candidate compared to her as a candidate compared to her as a candidate previously but personally don't think previously but personally don't think previously but personally don't think she would have been the result of a she would have been the result of a she would have been the result of a democratic process so you don't often democratic process so you don't often democratic process so you don't often give your opinions but when you give the give your opinions but when you give the give your opinions but when you give the opinions I actually agree 90 like a huge opinions I actually agree 90 like a huge opinions I actually agree 90 like a huge percentage of the time in this percentage of the time in this percentage of the time in this conversation so I fought for Shapiro in conversation so I fought for Shapiro in conversation so I fought for Shapiro in the primary in when she was trying to the primary in when she was trying to the primary in when she was trying to pick for a VP because I thought there's pick for a VP because I thought there's pick for a VP because I thought there's no way she's going to pick walls he's no way she's going to pick walls he's no way she's going to pick walls he's way too not just Progressive but more way too not just Progressive but more way too not just Progressive but more importantly populist right so I didn't importantly populist right so I didn't importantly populist right so I didn't think she'd go in that direction and think she'd go in that direction and think she'd go in that direction and shapo actually did a bunch of populous shapo actually did a bunch of populous shapo actually did a bunch of populous things in Pennsylvania that's part of things in Pennsylvania that's part of things in Pennsylvania that's part of the reason why he's so popular and in the reason why he's so popular and in the reason why he's so popular and in Pennsylvania he looks like a smooth Pennsylvania he looks like a smooth Pennsylvania he looks like a smooth talking politician but his actions are talking politician but his actions are talking politician but his actions are pretty good and so Shapiro was great pretty good and so Shapiro was great pretty good and so Shapiro was great walls was great the Obamas are legendary walls was great the Obamas are legendary walls was great the Obamas are legendary even Clinton at his Advanced age makes even Clinton at his Advanced age makes even Clinton at his Advanced age makes terrific points in his speech where you terrific points in his speech where you terrific points in his speech where you go well that one's hard to argue with go well that one's hard to argue with go well that one's hard to argue with right and so they all I'm shocked at the right and so they all I'm shocked at the right and so they all I'm shocked at the competence at the DNC shocked at it but competence at the DNC shocked at it but competence at the DNC shocked at it but of all those liks so you can give a good of all those liks so you can give a good of all those liks so you can give a good speech and the Obama give a mean speech speech and the Obama give a mean speech speech and the Obama give a mean speech but I saw Obama as president you know he but I saw Obama as president you know he but I saw Obama as president you know he didn't deliver on that so but the one didn't deliver on that so but the one didn't deliver on that so but the one guy that stood out is wallz and the guy that stood out is wallz and the guy that stood out is wallz and the reason is cuz he's a real person yeah reason is cuz he's a real person yeah reason is cuz he's a real person yeah real person populist we all got to work

real person populist we all got to work real person populist we all got to work towards picking the most genuine towards picking the most genuine towards picking the most genuine candidates so here uh on the right-wing candidates so here uh on the right-wing candidates so here uh on the right-wing side for example I would prefer a side for example I would prefer a side for example I would prefer a marjerie Taylor green to a Mitch marjerie Taylor green to a Mitch marjerie Taylor green to a Mitch McConnell any day Margie Taylor green is McConnell any day Margie Taylor green is McConnell any day Margie Taylor green is genuine she I she might be genuinely genuine she I she might be genuinely genuine she I she might be genuinely nuts I don't agree with her she might be nuts I don't agree with her she might be nuts I don't agree with her she might be even more right-wing than others but I even more right-wing than others but I even more right-wing than others but I believe that she means it and I'll take believe that she means it and I'll take believe that she means it and I'll take that any day over a fraud corporatist that any day over a fraud corporatist that any day over a fraud corporatist like Mitch McConnell who's just going to like Mitch McConnell who's just going to like Mitch McConnell who's just going to do what a donors command of him Etc I do what a donors command of him Etc I do what a donors command of him Etc I got to ask you because I also love got to ask you because I also love got to ask you because I also love Bernie still got it I love Bernie I Bernie still got it I love Bernie I Bernie still got it I love Bernie I always have um I enjoyed his I think he always have um I enjoyed his I think he always have um I enjoyed his I think he might still do it but I enjoyed his might still do it but I enjoyed his might still do it but I enjoyed his conversations with Tom Harman he's a conversations with Tom Harman he's a conversations with Tom Harman he's a genuine One Like Bernie even if disagree genuine One Like Bernie even if disagree genuine One Like Bernie even if disagree with him that's a genuine human being with him that's a genuine human being with him that's a genuine human being yep so just talk about that does it yep so just talk about that does it yep so just talk about that does it trouble you that he's been over trouble you that he's been over trouble you that he's been over in 2015 16 and again 2020 he seems to be in 2015 16 and again 2020 he seems to be in 2015 16 and again 2020 he seems to be and why does he keep like forgiving and why does he keep like forgiving and why does he keep like forgiving people yeah so I I love Bernie for the people yeah so I I love Bernie for the people yeah so I I love Bernie for the same reason you're saying it because same reason you're saying it because same reason you're saying it because he's a real person he's a populist he he's a real person he's a populist he he's a real person he's a populist he means it and that is so rare in politics means it and that is so rare in politics means it and that is so rare in politics he's I feel like I'm diogenes and I went he's I feel like I'm diogenes and I went he's I feel like I'm diogenes and I went looking for the one honest man and found looking for the one honest man and found looking for the one honest man and found it in Bernie and so I did a video in it in Bernie and so I did a video in it in Bernie and so I did a video in 2013 saying Bernie Sanders can beat 2013 saying Bernie Sanders can beat 2013 saying Bernie Sanders can beat Hillary Clinton in a primary in Hillary Clinton in a primary in Hillary Clinton in a primary in 2013 that video exists because why did I 2013 that video exists because why did I 2013 that video exists because why did I think that I didn't say it of any of the

think that I didn't say it of any of the think that I didn't say it of any of the corporate politicians and the guys who corporate politicians and the guys who corporate politicians and the guys who were supposed to challenge her and stuff were supposed to challenge her and stuff were supposed to challenge her and stuff because populist and honest right and because populist and honest right and because populist and honest right and the country's dying for an honest the country's dying for an honest the country's dying for an honest populist dying for it right so love the populist dying for it right so love the populist dying for it right so love the brother now that doesn't mean that he's brother now that doesn't mean that he's brother now that doesn't mean that he's right on strategy and he drives crazy on right on strategy and he drives crazy on right on strategy and he drives crazy on strategy so two elements of that number strategy so two elements of that number strategy so two elements of that number one in 2016 and in 2020 for God's sake one in 2016 and in 2020 for God's sake one in 2016 and in 2020 for God's sake attack your opponent you said something attack your opponent you said something attack your opponent you said something about Trump that I disagree with uh about Trump that I disagree with uh about Trump that I disagree with uh where I'm defending Trump okay you don't where I'm defending Trump okay you don't where I'm defending Trump okay you don't like what he did to the public discourse like what he did to the public discourse like what he did to the public discourse no I don't mind it I would and I'll tell no I don't mind it I would and I'll tell no I don't mind it I would and I'll tell you why yeah because at least he got a you why yeah because at least he got a you why yeah because at least he got a little bit past the fakeness like he's a little bit past the fakeness like he's a little bit past the fakeness like he's a con man and he's a fraud overall and he con man and he's a fraud overall and he con man and he's a fraud overall and he doesn't does everything for his own doesn't does everything for his own doesn't does everything for his own interest but at least he doesn't speak interest but at least he doesn't speak interest but at least he doesn't speak like a bullshitting politician right and like a bullshitting politician right and like a bullshitting politician right and he's not wrong that you have to bully he's not wrong that you have to bully he's not wrong that you have to bully your own party toass enough power to get your own party toass enough power to get your own party toass enough power to get things done and he showed that that's things done and he showed that that's things done and he showed that that's possible so the problem with the possible so the problem with the possible so the problem with the Democrats is civility so my whole life Democrats is civility so my whole life Democrats is civility so my whole life they're like oh no no no don't say they're like oh no no no don't say they're like oh no no no don't say anything Let's Lose with civility right anything Let's Lose with civility right anything Let's Lose with civility right so for example in debates uh you know so for example in debates uh you know so for example in debates uh you know whether it's on TV online or whatever uh whether it's on TV online or whatever uh whether it's on TV online or whatever uh Democrats or people on the left are Democrats or people on the left are Democrats or people on the left are always saying I'm always saying I'm always saying I'm offended I never get offended no after offended I never get offended no after offended I never get offended no after I'm done you're going to be offended I'm done you're going to be offended I'm done you're going to be offended okay fight back fighting back wins and okay fight back fighting back wins and okay fight back fighting back wins and we couldn't get Bernie to fight back in

we couldn't get Bernie to fight back in we couldn't get Bernie to fight back in 2020 he he was one state away he won the 2020 he he was one state away he won the 2020 he he was one state away he won the first three states he crushed in Nevada first three states he crushed in Nevada first three states he crushed in Nevada all we needed was South Carolina but in all we needed was South Carolina but in all we needed was South Carolina but in order to get South Carolina we all knew order to get South Carolina we all knew order to get South Carolina we all knew everybody on his campaign everyone who's everybody on his campaign everyone who's everybody on his campaign everyone who's in Progressive media we all knew you've in Progressive media we all knew you've in Progressive media we all knew you've got to attack Biden if you don't they're got to attack Biden if you don't they're got to attack Biden if you don't they're just going to Tsunami you you the just going to Tsunami you you the just going to Tsunami you you the corporate Medias and the corporate corporate Medias and the corporate corporate Medias and the corporate politicians are going to run rough shot politicians are going to run rough shot politicians are going to run rough shot over you you have to make the case over you you have to make the case over you you have to make the case against them and so two times Bernie against them and so two times Bernie against them and so two times Bernie flinched one in 2016 in the Brooklyn flinched one in 2016 in the Brooklyn flinched one in 2016 in the Brooklyn debate they asked did the money that debate they asked did the money that debate they asked did the money that Hillary Clinton taking from the banks Hillary Clinton taking from the banks Hillary Clinton taking from the banks affect her votes and he said no of affect her votes and he said no of affect her votes and he said no of course it affected her votes of course course it affected her votes of course course it affected her votes of course it did you have to say yes and you have it did you have to say yes and you have it did you have to say yes and you have to show it and prove it the bankruptcy to show it and prove it the bankruptcy to show it and prove it the bankruptcy bill when she was first lady she was bill when she was first lady she was bill when she was first lady she was totally in favor of the American people totally in favor of the American people totally in favor of the American people and against the bankruptcy bill because and against the bankruptcy bill because and against the bankruptcy bill because it uh has the banks you can't discharge it uh has the banks you can't discharge it uh has the banks you can't discharge any debts that the credit you know any debts that the credit you know any debts that the credit you know credit card debt and Bank debt Etc it's credit card debt and Bank debt Etc it's credit card debt and Bank debt Etc it's an awful bill it's the one of the most an awful bill it's the one of the most an awful bill it's the one of the most corpor bills she was on the right side corpor bills she was on the right side corpor bills she was on the right side as a first lady she becomes a senator as a first lady she becomes a senator as a first lady she becomes a senator takes Bank her money and all of a sudden takes Bank her money and all of a sudden takes Bank her money and all of a sudden she flips over to the banker side say it she flips over to the banker side say it she flips over to the banker side say it Bernie for God's sake say it right then Bernie for God's sake say it right then Bernie for God's sake say it right then in one of the debates in 2020 his team in one of the debates in 2020 his team in one of the debates in 2020 his team prepares attacks against Biden they're prepares attacks against Biden they're prepares attacks against Biden they're not personal they're not like I you can not personal they're not like I you can not personal they're not like I you can sense by now if I'm in a political race sense by now if I'm in a political race sense by now if I'm in a political race my objective is rip the other guys face my objective is rip the other guys face my objective is rip the other guys face off right yeah politically rhetorically

off right yeah politically rhetorically off right yeah politically rhetorically never physically right and so but I never physically right and so but I never physically right and so but I would get it to a point where they'd would get it to a point where they'd would get it to a point where they'd think I don't know if I'm going to vote think I don't know if I'm going to vote think I don't know if I'm going to vote for Jen but I know I'm not voting for for Jen but I know I'm not voting for for Jen but I know I'm not voting for The Other Guy okay so you got to do that The Other Guy okay so you got to do that The Other Guy okay so you got to do that if you want to win so they prepare this if you want to win so they prepare this if you want to win so they prepare this he says I'm going to do it he goes out he says I'm going to do it he goes out he says I'm going to do it he goes out on the podium and doesn't do it because on the podium and doesn't do it because on the podium and doesn't do it because he can't he's too damn nice he just he can't he's too damn nice he just he can't he's too damn nice he just can't attack the other guy now that's can't attack the other guy now that's can't attack the other guy now that's problem number one in strategy problem problem number one in strategy problem problem number one in strategy problem number two is something you alluded to number two is something you alluded to number two is something you alluded to so Biden gets in office Bernie thinks so Biden gets in office Bernie thinks so Biden gets in office Bernie thinks they're friends they're not friends they're friends they're not friends they're friends they're not friends Biden's just using him so he uses him to Biden's just using him so he uses him to Biden's just using him so he uses him to get the credibility and then he get the credibility and then he get the credibility and then he eviscerates 85% of the progressive eviscerates 85% of the progressive eviscerates 85% of the progressive proposals that Bernie put forward Biden proposals that Bernie put forward Biden proposals that Bernie put forward Biden throws away $15 minimum wage that was throws away $15 minimum wage that was throws away $15 minimum wage that was Bernie signature issue doesn't even Bernie signature issue doesn't even Bernie signature issue doesn't even propose the public option dumps paid propose the public option dumps paid propose the public option dumps paid family for no reason I can go on and on family for no reason I can go on and on family for no reason I can go on and on and Bernie co-signs on it because he and Bernie co-signs on it because he and Bernie co-signs on it because he thinks he's in an alliance he thinks thinks he's in an alliance he thinks thinks he's in an alliance he thinks Biden's on his side and he thinks we're Biden's on his side and he thinks we're Biden's on his side and he thinks we're going to get things done and to be fair going to get things done and to be fair going to get things done and to be fair to Bernie like I said earlier Obama got to Bernie like I said earlier Obama got to Bernie like I said earlier Obama got only 5% of his agenda passed and Biden only 5% of his agenda passed and Biden only 5% of his agenda passed and Biden got got got 15% okay so you're right Bernie you got 15% okay so you're right Bernie you got 15% okay so you're right Bernie you got three times more than under Obama but three times more than under Obama but three times more than under Obama but you're wrong that is not fundamental you're wrong that is not fundamental you're wrong that is not fundamental change and without fundamental change change and without fundamental change change and without fundamental change we're we're we're screwed uh let me ask you about another screwed uh let me ask you about another screwed uh let me ask you about another impressive speech impressive speech impressive speech AOC uh is it possible that she's the AOC uh is it possible that she's the AOC uh is it possible that she's the future of the party future president no future of the party future president no future of the party future president no uh so AOC in my opinion lost her way and

uh so AOC in my opinion lost her way and uh so AOC in my opinion lost her way and so in which way so it's tough talk about so in which way so it's tough talk about so in which way so it's tough talk about these things because people take it so these things because people take it so these things because people take it so personally right and and that's why personally right and and that's why personally right and and that's why you'll see very few politicians on our you'll see very few politicians on our you'll see very few politicians on our shows because we give super tough shows because we give super tough shows because we give super tough interviews and the words on in the interviews and the words on in the interviews and the words on in the street right like don't go Young Turks street right like don't go Young Turks street right like don't go Young Turks they'll they'll ask you super hard they'll they'll ask you super hard they'll they'll ask you super hard questions right so there only a couple questions right so there only a couple questions right so there only a couple do it like Rana does it he's Brave and do it like Rana does it he's Brave and do it like Rana does it he's Brave and we'll get into shouting matches we'll get into shouting matches we'll get into shouting matches sometimes in the middle of bills and sometimes in the middle of bills and sometimes in the middle of bills and stuff but at least he's there to defend stuff but at least he's there to defend stuff but at least he's there to defend his position I respect him for Tim Ryan his position I respect him for Tim Ryan his position I respect him for Tim Ryan a little bit more of a conservative a little bit more of a conservative a little bit more of a conservative Democrat when he was in the house he Democrat when he was in the house he Democrat when he was in the house he would take take on any debate Etc so would take take on any debate Etc so would take take on any debate Etc so there's a couple of good guys that do it there's a couple of good guys that do it there's a couple of good guys that do it but generally they don't so when this but generally they don't so when this but generally they don't so when this relates to AOC because when AOC is relates to AOC because when AOC is relates to AOC because when AOC is running we do 34 videos on her we get running we do 34 videos on her we get running we do 34 videos on her we get her millions of her millions of her millions of views we found ad just Democrats and views we found ad just Democrats and views we found ad just Democrats and andn now launched it on the show our andn now launched it on the show our andn now launched it on the show our audience Ryan Grim documents it in one audience Ryan Grim documents it in one audience Ryan Grim documents it in one of his books uh our audience raises $2.5 of his books uh our audience raises $2.5 of his books uh our audience raises $2.5 million for those Progressive candidates million for those Progressive candidates million for those Progressive candidates overall uh and at that point AOC and all overall uh and at that point AOC and all overall uh and at that point AOC and all those Rashid Etc they're all d to come those Rashid Etc they're all d to come those Rashid Etc they're all d to come on a Young Turks makes sense I would too on a Young Turks makes sense I would too on a Young Turks makes sense I would too of course it's not because it's The of course it's not because it's The of course it's not because it's The Young Turks any media outlet and most Young Turks any media outlet and most Young Turks any media outlet and most media Outlets almost all the media media Outlets almost all the media media Outlets almost all the media Outlets reject them we cover AOC more Outlets reject them we cover AOC more Outlets reject them we cover AOC more than all the other press combined right than all the other press combined right than all the other press combined right and she wins for a number of reasons and she wins for a number of reasons and she wins for a number of reasons that's one of the reasons but there's that's one of the reasons but there's that's one of the reasons but there's many others and she did a terrific job many others and she did a terrific job many others and she did a terrific job herself um she then takes shont and

herself um she then takes shont and herself um she then takes shont and Corbin who were the shot was ah head of Corbin who were the shot was ah head of Corbin who were the shot was ah head of just Democrats and Corbin was just Democrats and Corbin was just Democrats and Corbin was communications director for just communications director for just communications director for just Democrats then shott made one of the Democrats then shott made one of the Democrats then shott made one of the most brilliant political decisions in most brilliant political decisions in most brilliant political decisions in arguably in American history he said he arguably in American history he said he arguably in American history he said he called me and he said Jen I'm going to called me and he said Jen I'm going to called me and he said Jen I'm going to go from head adjust Democrats to running go from head adjust Democrats to running go from head adjust Democrats to running aoc's campaign and I'm like well the aoc's campaign and I'm like well the aoc's campaign and I'm like well the other candidates are going to get pissed other candidates are going to get pissed other candidates are going to get pissed and you're staking the entire Enterprise and you're staking the entire Enterprise and you're staking the entire Enterprise on one candidate and I'm like short I'm on one candidate and I'm like short I'm on one candidate and I'm like short I'm not in it I'm doing the media arm you're not in it I'm doing the media arm you're not in it I'm doing the media arm you're you're in the in the trenches you're the you're in the in the trenches you're the you're in the in the trenches you're the guy making the decisions so I'm going to guy making the decisions so I'm going to guy making the decisions so I'm going to trust whatever you say you sure and he trust whatever you say you sure and he trust whatever you say you sure and he said yeah I'm sure so him and Corbin go said yeah I'm sure so him and Corbin go said yeah I'm sure so him and Corbin go over to aoc's campaign AOC then wins over to aoc's campaign AOC then wins over to aoc's campaign AOC then wins that miraculous win then she hires shott that miraculous win then she hires shott that miraculous win then she hires shott to be her chief of staff and she hires to be her chief of staff and she hires to be her chief of staff and she hires Corbin to be her communications director Corbin to be her communications director Corbin to be her communications director within six months they're gone and once within six months they're gone and once within six months they're gone and once they're gone AOC then goes on an they're gone AOC then goes on an they're gone AOC then goes on an establishment path okay because why were establishment path okay because why were establishment path okay because why were they gone oh they insulted one of her they gone oh they insulted one of her they gone oh they insulted one of her colleagues yeah that colleague who's a colleagues yeah that colleague who's a colleagues yeah that colleague who's a total corporatist and was selling out total corporatist and was selling out total corporatist and was selling out one of our policy proposals if you don't one of our policy proposals if you don't one of our policy proposals if you don't call out your own side you're never call out your own side you're never call out your own side you're never going to get anything done but if you going to get anything done but if you going to get anything done but if you call out your own side you become person call out your own side you become person call out your own side you become person n grada and it is super n grada and it is super n grada and it is super uncomfortable and we couldn't get them uncomfortable and we couldn't get them uncomfortable and we couldn't get them to do things that were uncomfortable now to do things that were uncomfortable now to do things that were uncomfortable now she's going to find that outrageous and she's going to find that outrageous and she's going to find that outrageous and she's going to be very offended by that she's going to be very offended by that she's going to be very offended by that and she's going to point to a bunch of

and she's going to point to a bunch of and she's going to point to a bunch of things she did that were uncomfortable things she did that were uncomfortable things she did that were uncomfortable and to be fair to her she do she has and to be fair to her she do she has and to be fair to her she do she has she's until that speech she was pretty she's until that speech she was pretty she's until that speech she was pretty good on Palestine good on Palestine good on Palestine when we desperately needed it she's when we desperately needed it she's when we desperately needed it she's pretty good on a bunch of issues Cory pretty good on a bunch of issues Cory pretty good on a bunch of issues Cory Bush did that campaign on evictions Etc Bush did that campaign on evictions Etc Bush did that campaign on evictions Etc on the capital stest that was great on the capital stest that was great on the capital stest that was great aoc's original sit in in Pelosi's office aoc's original sit in in Pelosi's office aoc's original sit in in Pelosi's office that point we're all still on the same that point we're all still on the same that point we're all still on the same team it's a spectacular success me team it's a spectacular success me team it's a spectacular success me Corbin and shott are saying do it again Corbin and shott are saying do it again Corbin and shott are saying do it again do it again like not don't abuse it like do it again like not don't abuse it like do it again like not don't abuse it like don't be a clown and do it every other don't be a clown and do it every other don't be a clown and do it every other day but like when it matters you need to day but like when it matters you need to day but like when it matters you need to be able to challenge Pelosi right and T be able to challenge Pelosi right and T be able to challenge Pelosi right and T in my opin opinion she just got to a in my opin opinion she just got to a in my opin opinion she just got to a point where she got exhausted being point where she got exhausted being point where she got exhausted being uncomfortable it's like it's really hard uncomfortable it's like it's really hard uncomfortable it's like it's really hard the media hates you and they keep the media hates you and they keep the media hates you and they keep pounding away and calling you a radical pounding away and calling you a radical pounding away and calling you a radical and you're destroying the Democratic and you're destroying the Democratic and you're destroying the Democratic party you're destroying Unity so whereas party you're destroying Unity so whereas party you're destroying Unity so whereas if you go along all of a sudden you're a if you go along all of a sudden you're a if you go along all of a sudden you're a queen and and now all of a sudden the queen and and now all of a sudden the queen and and now all of a sudden the mainstream media is saying oh AOC she mainstream media is saying oh AOC she mainstream media is saying oh AOC she could be the prog I mean there's some could be the prog I mean there's some could be the prog I mean there's some degree to which you want to sometimes degree to which you want to sometimes degree to which you want to sometimes buy your time and just like uh rest a buy your time and just like uh rest a buy your time and just like uh rest a bit and I think from my perspective bit and I think from my perspective bit and I think from my perspective maybe you can educate me she seems like maybe you can educate me she seems like maybe you can educate me she seems like a legit uh a legit uh a legit uh Progressive legit even populist Progressive legit even populist Progressive legit even populist charismatic young like a lot of time to charismatic young like a lot of time to charismatic young like a lot of time to develop the game of politics how to how develop the game of politics how to how develop the game of politics how to how to play it well enough to avoid the to play it well enough to avoid the to play it well enough to avoid the I guess it doesn't take

I guess it doesn't take I guess it doesn't take corporate pack money that's right no corporate pack money that's right no corporate pack money that's right no she's still true on that um so as as far she's still true on that um so as as far she's still true on that um so as as far as I just looking in the over for the as I just looking in the over for the as I just looking in the over for the next few elections like who's going to next few elections like who's going to next few elections like who's going to be running who's going to be who's going be running who's going to be who's going be running who's going to be who's going to be a real player she just seems like to be a real player she just seems like to be a real player she just seems like an OB like to me it seems like an an OB like to me it seems like an an OB like to me it seems like an obvious person that's going to be in the obvious person that's going to be in the obvious person that's going to be in the race so while I fight for the ideal I'm race so while I fight for the ideal I'm race so while I fight for the ideal I'm very practical so for very practical so for very practical so for example example example in she wins uh and then one cycle later in she wins uh and then one cycle later in she wins uh and then one cycle later after after after 2020 um there's these guys who wanted to 2020 um there's these guys who wanted to 2020 um there's these guys who wanted to quote unquote Force the vote and it was quote unquote Force the vote and it was quote unquote Force the vote and it was uh on the speakership of Nancy Pelosi uh on the speakership of Nancy Pelosi uh on the speakership of Nancy Pelosi and they wanted to use it to get and they wanted to use it to get and they wanted to use it to get Medicare for all I'm like guys forcing a Medicare for all I'm like guys forcing a Medicare for all I'm like guys forcing a vote is a terrific vote is a terrific vote is a terrific idea on the idea on the idea on the speakership okay who's your alternative speakership okay who's your alternative speakership okay who's your alternative oh we don't have an alternative already oh we don't have an alternative already oh we don't have an alternative already giant red flag okay um what's the issue giant red flag okay um what's the issue giant red flag okay um what's the issue you're looking to have them vote on you're looking to have them vote on you're looking to have them vote on Medicare for all oh you don't know Medicare for all oh you don't know Medicare for all oh you don't know politics so I love Medicare for all we politics so I love Medicare for all we politics so I love Medicare for all we have to get Medicare for all but if you have to get Medicare for all but if you have to get Medicare for all but if you if that's the first one you put up if that's the first one you put up if that's the first one you put up without gaining any leverage you're without gaining any leverage you're without gaining any leverage you're going to get slaughtered put up going to get slaughtered put up going to get slaughtered put up something easy force a vote on $15 something easy force a vote on $15 something easy force a vote on $15 minimum wage or pick another one that's minimum wage or pick another one that's minimum wage or pick another one that's easy paid family leave these are all easy paid family leave these are all easy paid family leave these are all pulling great because if you force a pulling great because if you force a pulling great because if you force a vote on that you can actually win and if vote on that you can actually win and if vote on that you can actually win and if you win you gain leverage and then you

you win you gain leverage and then you you win you gain leverage and then you do the next one and the next one and do the next one and the next one and do the next one and the next one and then you do Medicare for all not then you do Medicare for all not then you do Medicare for all not gradualism that the corporate gradualism that the corporate gradualism that the corporate Democrats do but actually strategically Democrats do but actually strategically Democrats do but actually strategically practically building up power and practically building up power and practically building up power and leverage and using it at the right times leverage and using it at the right times leverage and using it at the right times so if I thought that's what AOC was so if I thought that's what AOC was so if I thought that's what AOC was doing I would love it right so I don't doing I would love it right so I don't doing I would love it right so I don't need her to force a vote on Medicare for need her to force a vote on Medicare for need her to force a vote on Medicare for all I don't need her to go on some wild all I don't need her to go on some wild all I don't need her to go on some wild tangents that don't make any sense and tangents that don't make any sense and tangents that don't make any sense and is only going to diminish your is only going to diminish your is only going to diminish your power but when they eviscerated all the power but when they eviscerated all the power but when they eviscerated all the progressive proposals and build back progressive proposals and build back progressive proposals and build back better how did that happen mansion and better how did that happen mansion and better how did that happen mansion and Cinema used every ounce of Leverage they Cinema used every ounce of Leverage they Cinema used every ounce of Leverage they had they said I'm just not going to vote had they said I'm just not going to vote had they said I'm just not going to vote for it I don't care okay uh you know the for it I don't care okay uh you know the for it I don't care okay uh you know the status quo is perfect for my donors so I status quo is perfect for my donors so I status quo is perfect for my donors so I don't need you I vote no okay now take don't need you I vote no okay now take don't need you I vote no okay now take out everything I want and Biden did out everything I want and Biden did out everything I want and Biden did right progressives had to push back and right progressives had to push back and right progressives had to push back and say here say here say here is two to three proposals right not is two to three proposals right not is two to three proposals right not everything not everything two to three everything not everything two to three everything not everything two to three proposals they all pull over 70% they're proposals they all pull over 70% they're proposals they all pull over 70% they're all no-brainers and they're all things all no-brainers and they're all things all no-brainers and they're all things that Joe Biden promised we want those in that Joe Biden promised we want those in that Joe Biden promised we want those in the bill otherwise we're voting no at the bill otherwise we're voting no at the bill otherwise we're voting no at that point the media what would have that point the media what would have that point the media what would have happened is the media would have happened is the media would have happened is the media would have exploded and they would have said AOC exploded and they would have said AOC exploded and they would have said AOC and the rest are the scum of the earth and the rest are the scum of the earth and the rest are the scum of the earth they're ruining the Democratic party they're ruining the Democratic party they're ruining the Democratic party we're not going to get the bill they're we're not going to get the bill they're we're not going to get the bill they're the worst you have to withstand that if the worst you have to withstand that if the worst you have to withstand that if you cannot withstand a nuclear blast for

you cannot withstand a nuclear blast for you cannot withstand a nuclear blast for mainstream media you're not the person mainstream media you're not the person mainstream media you're not the person cuz you that's you have to go run that cuz you that's you have to go run that cuz you that's you have to go run that obstacle for to get to change if they obstacle for to get to change if they obstacle for to get to change if they had stood their ground they definitely had stood their ground they definitely had stood their ground they definitely would have won on one to two of those would have won on one to two of those would have won on one to two of those issues instead they went with a strategy issues instead they went with a strategy issues instead they went with a strategy that was called it was literally called that was called it was literally called that was called it was literally called trust Biden all right so uh big question trust Biden all right so uh big question trust Biden all right so uh big question who wins uh who wins this election KLA who wins uh who wins this election KLA who wins uh who wins this election KLA or Trump and what's kamla's path to or Trump and what's kamla's path to or Trump and what's kamla's path to Victory and uh if you can steal man Victory and uh if you can steal man Victory and uh if you can steal man what's Trump's path to victory yeah so what's Trump's path to victory yeah so what's Trump's path to victory yeah so there's not enough information yet so there's not enough information yet so there's not enough information yet so since I make a lot of predictions on air since I make a lot of predictions on air since I make a lot of predictions on air and then brag about it unbearably and then brag about it unbearably and then brag about it unbearably um yeah people are always they'll stop um yeah people are always they'll stop um yeah people are always they'll stop me in the streets and they'll be like me in the streets and they'll be like me in the streets and they'll be like predict this like predict my marriage predict this like predict my marriage predict this like predict my marriage brother I don't know anything about your brother I don't know anything about your brother I don't know anything about your marriage how could I possibly predict marriage how could I possibly predict marriage how could I possibly predict something without having any information something without having any information something without having any information so in the case of the uh this campaign so in the case of the uh this campaign so in the case of the uh this campaign uh right now I got KLA Harris at 55% uh right now I got KLA Harris at 55% uh right now I got KLA Harris at 55% chance of winning okay which is not bad chance of winning okay which is not bad chance of winning okay which is not bad doesn't mean she's going to win by 55 doesn't mean she's going to win by 55 doesn't mean she's going to win by 55 because then that would be a 10-point because then that would be a 10-point because then that would be a 10-point margin that's not going to happen right margin that's not going to happen right margin that's not going to happen right but I say around 51 to 55 but it's but I say around 51 to 55 but it's but I say around 51 to 55 but it's nowhere near over because of a lot of nowhere near over because of a lot of nowhere near over because of a lot of things one uh the Democrats are still things one uh the Democrats are still things one uh the Democrats are still seen as more establishment and and seen as more establishment and and seen as more establishment and and people hate The Establishment uh people hate The Establishment uh people hate The Establishment uh two if War breaks out in the Middle East two if War breaks out in the Middle East two if War breaks out in the Middle East which is now which is now which is now unfortunately bordering unlikely right unfortunately bordering unlikely right unfortunately bordering unlikely right uh if that war breaks out all bets are

uh if that war breaks out all bets are uh if that war breaks out all bets are off do you mean a regional War yeah like off do you mean a regional War yeah like off do you mean a regional War yeah like Iran Israel gets to be a real thing not Iran Israel gets to be a real thing not Iran Israel gets to be a real thing not just a pin prick and a little bombing just a pin prick and a little bombing just a pin prick and a little bombing here and an assassination there but no here and an assassination there but no here and an assassination there but no we're going to war right if that happens we're going to war right if that happens we're going to war right if that happens then all bets are off and no one has any then all bets are off and no one has any then all bets are off and no one has any idea who's going to win okay and if idea who's going to win okay and if idea who's going to win okay and if they're pretending that they know that's they're pretending that they know that's they're pretending that they know that's ridiculous because it's so ridiculous because it's so ridiculous because it's so unpredictable uh and then the third unpredictable uh and then the third unpredictable uh and then the third bogey for her bogey for her bogey for her is if she goes back to W Sal so that so is if she goes back to W Sal so that so is if she goes back to W Sal so that so there's three phases of K har 's career there's three phases of K har 's career there's three phases of K har 's career she's not necessarily any different in she's not necessarily any different in she's not necessarily any different in terms of policy she's you can frame it terms of policy she's you can frame it terms of policy she's you can frame it in a bad way you could frame it in a in a bad way you could frame it in a in a bad way you could frame it in a good way you can say oh she's just good way you can say oh she's just good way you can say oh she's just change seeing which way the wind is change seeing which way the wind is change seeing which way the wind is blowing and then oh she's a tough cop blowing and then oh she's a tough cop blowing and then oh she's a tough cop prosecutor oh and then she's doing prosecutor oh and then she's doing prosecutor oh and then she's doing Justice Reform when you need people want Justice Reform when you need people want Justice Reform when you need people want Justice Reform oh she's a a waffler Justice Reform oh she's a a waffler Justice Reform oh she's a a waffler right or you could paint it as she's right or you could paint it as she's right or you could paint it as she's pretty balanced right she prosecuted pretty balanced right she prosecuted pretty balanced right she prosecuted serious criminals very harshly but then serious criminals very harshly but then serious criminals very harshly but then on marijuana possession got into rehab on marijuana possession got into rehab on marijuana possession got into rehab and you know what that's actually what and you know what that's actually what and you know what that's actually what you should do right so I'm not talking you should do right so I'm not talking you should do right so I'm not talking about policy so there you could have one about policy so there you could have one about policy so there you could have one of those views about kamla Harris and I of those views about kamla Harris and I of those views about kamla Harris and I get it I'm talking about strateg get it I'm talking about strateg get it I'm talking about strateg stylistically so kamla Harris until the stylistically so kamla Harris until the stylistically so kamla Harris until the second debate in the primaries in 2020 second debate in the primaries in 2020 second debate in the primaries in 2020 is a very competent politician who's in is a very competent politician who's in is a very competent politician who's in line to be the next Obama right she's

line to be the next Obama right she's line to be the next Obama right she's killing it district attorney Attorney killing it district attorney Attorney killing it district attorney Attorney General uh Senator um and then the first General uh Senator um and then the first General uh Senator um and then the first debate if you remember she won she had debate if you remember she won she had debate if you remember she won she had that great line about you know uh there that great line about you know uh there that great line about you know uh there was a little girl on that bus that was was a little girl on that bus that was was a little girl on that bus that was integrating the schools and that girl integrating the schools and that girl integrating the schools and that girl was me and Biden being the knucklehead was me and Biden being the knucklehead was me and Biden being the knucklehead that he is he's caught on tape that he is he's caught on tape that he is he's caught on tape going you're like don't have that going you're like don't have that going you're like don't have that reaction brother okay because she's reaction brother okay because she's reaction brother okay because she's criticizing his segregation policy on criticizing his segregation policy on criticizing his segregation policy on buses back in the 70s right so anyways buses back in the 70s right so anyways buses back in the 70s right so anyways so she's doing terrific so she's doing terrific so she's doing terrific and then after that debate until Biden and then after that debate until Biden and then after that debate until Biden drops out is a disaster area for KLA drops out is a disaster area for KLA drops out is a disaster area for KLA Harris's career in the primary she Harris's career in the primary she Harris's career in the primary she starts falling apart she can't starts falling apart she can't starts falling apart she can't strategize right she's for Medicare for strategize right she's for Medicare for strategize right she's for Medicare for all no she's not she's for Medicare for all no she's not she's for Medicare for all no she's not she's for Medicare for some what's Medicare for some I don't some what's Medicare for some I don't some what's Medicare for some I don't know right and she goes in the next know right and she goes in the next know right and she goes in the next debate and telsey gabard kicks her ass debate and telsey gabard kicks her ass debate and telsey gabard kicks her ass and then goes in the third debate gets and then goes in the third debate gets and then goes in the third debate gets her ass kicked again and she's starting her ass kicked again and she's starting her ass kicked again and she's starting to drift away then at this point and to drift away then at this point and to drift away then at this point and this is fun this is fun this is fun um I have more votes for president than um I have more votes for president than um I have more votes for president than KLA Harris does because KLA Harris KLA Harris does because KLA Harris KLA Harris does because KLA Harris dropped out before Iowa because that's dropped out before Iowa because that's dropped out before Iowa because that's how much of a disaster her campaign how much of a disaster her campaign how much of a disaster her campaign turned into when she was leading she was turned into when she was leading she was turned into when she was leading she was leading right so then she becomes vice leading right so then she becomes vice leading right so then she becomes vice president and Biden probably because of president and Biden probably because of president and Biden probably because of that bus line Jill Biden caught that bus line Jill Biden caught that bus line Jill Biden caught tremendous feelings over that line okay tremendous feelings over that line okay tremendous feelings over that line okay so Biden's like here have this albatross so Biden's like here have this albatross so Biden's like here have this albatross around your neck it's called immigration

around your neck it's called immigration around your neck it's called immigration good luck I'm not going to do anything good luck I'm not going to do anything good luck I'm not going to do anything about it I'm not going to change policy about it I'm not going to change policy about it I'm not going to change policy but I'm putting you in charge of it to but I'm putting you in charge of it to but I'm putting you in charge of it to get your ass handed to okay and she does get your ass handed to okay and she does get your ass handed to okay and she does so that's a disaster and then she starts so that's a disaster and then she starts so that's a disaster and then she starts doing interviews where she's like we doing interviews where she's like we doing interviews where she's like we have to become the chain the being but have to become the chain the being but have to become the chain the being but not the thing we were and The Unbecoming not the thing we were and The Unbecoming not the thing we were and The Unbecoming and you're like what is going on why can and you're like what is going on why can and you're like what is going on why can neither one of them neither one of them neither one of them speak yeah and so but then the third act speak yeah and so but then the third act speak yeah and so but then the third act shocks me Biden steps down she goes shocks me Biden steps down she goes shocks me Biden steps down she goes grabs all those delegates in a super grabs all those delegates in a super grabs all those delegates in a super competent way that we talked about competent way that we talked about competent way that we talked about earlier and then she goes out and gives earlier and then she goes out and gives earlier and then she goes out and gives a speech I'm like oh that speech is good a speech I'm like oh that speech is good a speech I'm like oh that speech is good okay another one another one I'm like okay another one another one I'm like okay another one another one I'm like wait a minute these are good speeches no wait a minute these are good speeches no wait a minute these are good speeches no more word salads then she picks Tim more word salads then she picks Tim more word salads then she picks Tim Walls and shocks the world I'm like Walls and shocks the world I'm like Walls and shocks the world I'm like that's a correct VP Pi yeah that is a that's a correct VP Pi yeah that is a that's a correct VP Pi yeah that is a miracle right and then she goes and does miracle right and then she goes and does miracle right and then she goes and does the economically populous plan all those the economically populous plan all those the economically populous plan all those proposals about housing that people care proposals about housing that people care proposals about housing that people care about grocery prices that people care about grocery prices that people care about grocery prices that people care about real or not real that is correct about real or not real that is correct about real or not real that is correct political strategy so this kamla Harris political strategy so this kamla Harris political strategy so this kamla Harris is back to the original kamla Harris who is back to the original kamla Harris who is back to the original kamla Harris who was a very competent skilled politician was a very competent skilled politician was a very competent skilled politician and as I was uh telling you offline she and as I was uh telling you offline she and as I was uh telling you offline she is doing uh whoever's doing her Tik Tok is doing uh whoever's doing her Tik Tok is doing uh whoever's doing her Tik Tok is is like blowing up and they're doing is is like blowing up and they're doing is is like blowing up and they're doing risky edgy stuff yes I did not expect risky edgy stuff yes I did not expect risky edgy stuff yes I did not expect that from somebody that kind of comes that from somebody that kind of comes that from somebody that kind of comes from the Biden Camp of just like be safe from the Biden Camp of just like be safe from the Biden Camp of just like be safe be boring all this kind of stuff so you

be boring all this kind of stuff so you be boring all this kind of stuff so you have to give KLA Harris credit cuz she's have to give KLA Harris credit cuz she's have to give KLA Harris credit cuz she's the leader of the campaign and she makes the leader of the campaign and she makes the leader of the campaign and she makes the final decisions but there's there's the final decisions but there's there's the final decisions but there's there's apparently a couple of people inside apparently a couple of people inside apparently a couple of people inside that campaign that are ass kickers and that campaign that are ass kickers and that campaign that are ass kickers and they're and they have convinced her to they're and they have convinced her to they're and they have convinced her to take risk which Democrats never take and take risk which Democrats never take and take risk which Democrats never take and it is correct to take risk you cannot it is correct to take risk you cannot it is correct to take risk you cannot get to Victory without risk so um the get to Victory without risk so um the get to Victory without risk so um the vice president pick was is the vice president pick was is the vice president pick was is the bellweather when Hillary Clinton picked bellweather when Hillary Clinton picked bellweather when Hillary Clinton picked Tim Kane I said that's she's going to Tim Kane I said that's she's going to Tim Kane I said that's she's going to lose because Tim Kane is playing prevent lose because Tim Kane is playing prevent lose because Tim Kane is playing prevent defense he's he's he's wallpaper I mean defense he's he's he's wallpaper I mean defense he's he's he's wallpaper I mean he'd be lucky to be wallpaper he's just he'd be lucky to be wallpaper he's just he'd be lucky to be wallpaper he's just a white wall right he's just and when he a white wall right he's just and when he a white wall right he's just and when he speaks it's white noise he never says speaks it's white noise he never says speaks it's white noise he never says anything interesting he's the most anything interesting he's the most anything interesting he's the most boring pick of all time that's saying we boring pick of all time that's saying we boring pick of all time that's saying we already won haha okay if KLA Harris had already won haha okay if KLA Harris had already won haha okay if KLA Harris had picked Mark Kelly that's the Tim Kane picked Mark Kelly that's the Tim Kane picked Mark Kelly that's the Tim Kane equivalent okay oh he's an astronaut I equivalent okay oh he's an astronaut I equivalent okay oh he's an astronaut I don't give a that he's an astronaut don't give a that he's an astronaut don't give a that he's an astronaut what is he saying is he a good what is he saying is he a good what is he saying is he a good politician does he have good policies is politician does he have good policies is politician does he have good policies is he exciting on the campaign Trail is he he exciting on the campaign Trail is he he exciting on the campaign Trail is he going to add to your moment him Mark going to add to your moment him Mark going to add to your moment him Mark Kelly he might be a good guy but number Kelly he might be a good guy but number Kelly he might be a good guy but number one he's a very corporate Democrat and one he's a very corporate Democrat and one he's a very corporate Democrat and number number number two it's like watching grass grow he oh two it's like watching grass grow he oh two it's like watching grass grow he oh he's terrible as speaking if you ask me he's terrible as speaking if you ask me he's terrible as speaking if you ask me right so so I thought for sure she's right so so I thought for sure she's right so so I thought for sure she's gonna pick Mark Kelly right because gonna pick Mark Kelly right because gonna pick Mark Kelly right because that's what a normal Democrat does or if that's what a normal Democrat does or if that's what a normal Democrat does or if they want to go wild and crazy they'll they want to go wild and crazy they'll they want to go wild and crazy they'll go to Basher so I was like please let it go to Basher so I was like please let it go to Basher so I was like please let it be Shapiro because he's at least not bad be Shapiro because he's at least not bad be Shapiro because he's at least not bad he's done some populous things and he's he's done some populous things and he's he's done some populous things and he's strategic he's really smart I need smart

strategic he's really smart I need smart strategic he's really smart I need smart cand Cates dumb candidates don't help cand Cates dumb candidates don't help cand Cates dumb candidates don't help they don't have a mind of their own they they don't have a mind of their own they they don't have a mind of their own they can't take risks they're not independent can't take risks they're not independent can't take risks they're not independent thinkers they they're going to lose so thinkers they they're going to lose so thinkers they they're going to lose so she picks the smartest most populous she picks the smartest most populous she picks the smartest most populous candidate boom boom we got a winner candidate boom boom we got a winner candidate boom boom we got a winner that's a good campaign uh speaking of that's a good campaign uh speaking of that's a good campaign uh speaking of risks when they debate when h k and risks when they debate when h k and risks when they debate when h k and Trump debate what do you think that's Trump debate what do you think that's Trump debate what do you think that's going to look like who who do you think going to look like who who do you think going to look like who who do you think is going to is going to is going to win oh that's not close KLA Harris win win oh that's not close KLA Harris win win oh that's not close KLA Harris win yeah unless she falls apart unless she yeah unless she falls apart unless she yeah unless she falls apart unless she goes back to the bad era right that's goes back to the bad era right that's goes back to the bad era right that's risk number three well hold on a second risk number three well hold on a second risk number three well hold on a second for oh I guess in the debate you don't for oh I guess in the debate you don't for oh I guess in the debate you don't have you can have pre-written it seems have you can have pre-written it seems have you can have pre-written it seems like when she's going off the top of her like when she's going off the top of her like when she's going off the top of her head is when the word word salad head is when the word word salad head is when the word word salad sometimes comes out sometimes yeah we'll sometimes comes out sometimes yeah we'll sometimes comes out sometimes yeah we'll have to see right we'll have to see have to see right we'll have to see have to see right we'll have to see because she hasn't done any tough because she hasn't done any tough because she hasn't done any tough interviews she hasn't really been interviews she hasn't really been interviews she hasn't really been challenged so I hope to God that doesn't challenged so I hope to God that doesn't challenged so I hope to God that doesn't happen that she doesn't fall apart you happen that she doesn't fall apart you happen that she doesn't fall apart you mean cuz I hope she does a bunch of mean cuz I hope she does a bunch of mean cuz I hope she does a bunch of interviews right oh definitely interviews right oh definitely interviews right oh definitely definitely I'm like definitely I'm like definitely I'm like I'm this is going to sound really I'm I'm this is going to sound really I'm I'm this is going to sound really I'm too honest but but I am like in in the too honest but but I am like in in the too honest but but I am like in in the context of K Harris probably shouldn't context of K Harris probably shouldn't context of K Harris probably shouldn't come on the young tur we do a really come on the young tur we do a really come on the young tur we do a really tough interview and it would hurt her tough interview and it would hurt her tough interview and it would hurt her okay do you though like it's tough but okay do you though like it's tough but okay do you though like it's tough but like you're pretty respectful maybe I like you're pretty respectful maybe I like you're pretty respectful maybe I just have my sort of uh um like I'm okay just have my sort of uh um like I'm okay just have my sort of uh um like I'm okay with a little bit of tension you're with a little bit of tension you're with a little bit of tension you're pretty respectful even when you're pretty respectful even when you're pretty respectful even when you're yelling there's like respect like you yelling there's like respect like you yelling there's like respect like you you don't do you don't do you don't do um uh like a gotcha type thing there's um uh like a gotcha type thing there's um uh like a gotcha type thing there's certain things you could do like you

certain things you could do like you certain things you could do like you said this in the past you can say a line said this in the past you can say a line said this in the past you can say a line from the past that's out of from the past that's out of from the past that's out of context uh it forces the other person to context uh it forces the other person to context uh it forces the other person to have to define the cont you just you have to define the cont you just you have to define the cont you just you know sort of debate type know sort of debate type know sort of debate type tactics over and over like you don't tactics over and over like you don't tactics over and over like you don't seem to do that you just like ask them seem to do that you just like ask them seem to do that you just like ask them questions genuinely and then you argue questions genuinely and then you argue questions genuinely and then you argue the point and then you also like hear the point and then you also like hear the point and then you also like hear what they say the only thing you I've what they say the only thing you I've what they say the only thing you I've seen you do sometimes tough that you seen you do sometimes tough that you seen you do sometimes tough that you sometimes like interrupt like you speak sometimes like interrupt like you speak sometimes like interrupt like you speak over the person if they are trying to do over the person if they are trying to do over the person if they are trying to do the same right only if they're the same right only if they're the same right only if they're filibuster yeah if they're filibuster filibuster yeah if they're filibuster filibuster yeah if they're filibuster but like that that's a tricky one that's but like that that's a tricky one that's but like that that's a tricky one that's um yeah it's a tricky right no but Lex um yeah it's a tricky right no but Lex um yeah it's a tricky right no but Lex the problem for her coming on our show the problem for her coming on our show the problem for her coming on our show isn't that we would be unfair to her isn't that we would be unfair to her isn't that we would be unfair to her it's that we would be fair so we would it's that we would be fair so we would it's that we would be fair so we would ask questions she is going to have ask questions she is going to have ask questions she is going to have trouble answering all the cor corporate trouble answering all the cor corporate trouble answering all the cor corporate stuff right I mean like so Biden said he stuff right I mean like so Biden said he stuff right I mean like so Biden said he was going to take the corporate tax rate was going to take the corporate tax rate was going to take the corporate tax rate to 28% and he barely tried you say to 28% and he barely tried you say to 28% and he barely tried you say you're going to take it to 28% why you're going to take it to 28% why you're going to take it to 28% why should we trust should we trust should we trust right you guys said $15 minimum wage and right you guys said $15 minimum wage and right you guys said $15 minimum wage and then you took it out of the bill why then you took it out of the bill why then you took it out of the bill why should we trust you right those are very should we trust you right those are very should we trust you right those are very tough questions she's never going to get tough questions she's never going to get tough questions she's never going to get that in mainstream media mainstream that in mainstream media mainstream that in mainstream media mainstream media is going to have faux toughness media is going to have faux toughness media is going to have faux toughness but in reality they're going to be but in reality they're going to be but in reality they're going to be softballs right and so the debates softballs right and so the debates softballs right and so the debates you're right Lex is is a little bit you're right Lex is is a little bit you're right Lex is is a little bit easier because Sarah Palin proved that easier because Sarah Palin proved that easier because Sarah Palin proved that you could just memorize scripted talking you could just memorize scripted talking you could just memorize scripted talking points and she admitted it later she's points and she admitted it later she's points and she admitted it later she's like she was super nervous she memorized

like she was super nervous she memorized like she was super nervous she memorized the talking points and no matter what the talking points and no matter what the talking points and no matter what they asked she just gave the talking they asked she just gave the talking they asked she just gave the talking point which by the way people barely point which by the way people barely point which by the way people barely noticed because that's what all noticed because that's what all noticed because that's what all politicians do okay she just admitted it politicians do okay she just admitted it politicians do okay she just admitted it and and and so no Trump's a disaster in a debate so no Trump's a disaster in a debate so no Trump's a disaster in a debate he's a he's a oneman wrecking crew of he's a he's a oneman wrecking crew of he's a he's a oneman wrecking crew of his own campaign so any competent his own campaign so any competent his own campaign so any competent debater would eviscerate Donald Trump I debater would eviscerate Donald Trump I debater would eviscerate Donald Trump I mean they just On Any Given topic when mean they just On Any Given topic when mean they just On Any Given topic when he says something he says something he says something like here let's take One Lunatic like here let's take One Lunatic like here let's take One Lunatic conspiracy theory that he just had conspiracy theory that he just had conspiracy theory that he just had recently uh and by the way if you're a recently uh and by the way if you're a recently uh and by the way if you're a right-winger and you keep getting hurt right-winger and you keep getting hurt right-winger and you keep getting hurt every time I say he's a lunatic or I every time I say he's a lunatic or I every time I say he's a lunatic or I insult Donald Trump don't like you you insult Donald Trump don't like you you insult Donald Trump don't like you you sound like a left-winger I'm offended sound like a left-winger I'm offended sound like a left-winger I'm offended I'm offended I'm offended get over it I'm offended I'm offended get over it I'm offended I'm offended get over it get over it okay so we we have get over it okay so we we have get over it okay so we we have disagreements hear what the other side disagreements hear what the other side disagreements hear what the other side is saying and by the way I say the same is saying and by the way I say the same is saying and by the way I say the same thing to the left okay I say you you thing to the left okay I say you you thing to the left okay I say you you think everybody on the right's evil think everybody on the right's evil think everybody on the right's evil you're crazy no they just have a you're crazy no they just have a you're crazy no they just have a different way of looking at the world different way of looking at the world different way of looking at the world which by the way is an interesting which by the way is an interesting which by the way is an interesting conversation we should talk about that conversation we should talk about that conversation we should talk about that in a minute too but so I I do it to both in a minute too but so I I do it to both in a minute too but so I I do it to both sides but okay Trump says oh I I don't sides but okay Trump says oh I I don't sides but okay Trump says oh I I don't think there's anyone at kamla Harris's think there's anyone at kamla Harris's think there's anyone at kamla Harris's rallies it's all the pictures are rallies it's all the pictures are rallies it's all the pictures are AI okay so let's say he says that in a AI okay so let's say he says that in a AI okay so let's say he says that in a debate because he he's liable to say debate because he he's liable to say debate because he he's liable to say anything right you just say okay so you anything right you just say okay so you anything right you just say okay so you think every reporter that was there think every reporter that was there think every reporter that was there every photographer that was there every every photographer that was there every every photographer that was there every human being that was there they're all human being that was there they're all human being that was there they're all lying they have a conspiracy of

lying they have a conspiracy of lying they have a conspiracy of thousands of people but none of them thousands of people but none of them thousands of people but none of them were actually were actually were actually there do you understand how insane you there do you understand how insane you there do you understand how insane you sound so this is a good place to uh Can sound so this is a good place to uh Can sound so this is a good place to uh Can you steal man the case for Trump yeah you steal man the case for Trump yeah you steal man the case for Trump yeah yeah so Trump is a massive risk because yeah so Trump is a massive risk because yeah so Trump is a massive risk because of all the things we talked about of all the things we talked about of all the things we talked about earlier but there is a percentage chance earlier but there is a percentage chance earlier but there is a percentage chance that he's such a wild card that he that he's such a wild card that he that he's such a wild card that he overturns the whole system and that is overturns the whole system and that is overturns the whole system and that is why why the establishment is a little why why the establishment is a little why why the establishment is a little scared of him so if he's in office here scared of him so if he's in office here scared of him so if he's in office here I'll give you a case of Donald Trump I'll give you a case of Donald Trump I'll give you a case of Donald Trump doing something right something wrong doing something right something wrong doing something right something wrong first and then something right so he first and then something right so he first and then something right so he bombs uh solomani the top general of bombs uh solomani the top general of bombs uh solomani the top general of Iran and kills him that risks World War Iran and kills him that risks World War Iran and kills him that risks World War II that r a giant war with Iran that II that r a giant war with Iran that II that r a giant war with Iran that devolves Iran is four times the size of devolves Iran is four times the size of devolves Iran is four times the size of Iraq if you're anti-war you should have Iraq if you're anti-war you should have Iraq if you're anti-war you should have hated that he assassinated Solomon but hated that he assassinated Solomon but hated that he assassinated Solomon but after the assassination Iran doesn't after the assassination Iran doesn't after the assassination Iran doesn't want to get into it even though in a want to get into it even though in a want to get into it even though in a rage and they do a small bombing you rage and they do a small bombing you rage and they do a small bombing you could tell if it's a small or a big one could tell if it's a small or a big one could tell if it's a small or a big one right so that's them saying we don't right so that's them saying we don't right so that's them saying we don't really want war but for our domestic really want war but for our domestic really want war but for our domestic crowd we have to bomb you back right and crowd we have to bomb you back right and crowd we have to bomb you back right and that's when the military-industrial that's when the military-industrial that's when the military-industrial complex comes to Trump and says no you complex comes to Trump and says no you complex comes to Trump and says no you have to show them who's tough and bomb have to show them who's tough and bomb have to show them who's tough and bomb this area and Trump says no they did a this area and Trump says no they did a this area and Trump says no they did a small bombing not a large bombing I small bombing not a large bombing I small bombing not a large bombing I don't want the war I'm not going to do don't want the war I'm not going to do don't want the war I'm not going to do that bombing that was this Shining that bombing that was this Shining that bombing that was this Shining Moment yeah for for me one of the Moment yeah for for me one of the Moment yeah for for me one of the biggest deal man for Trump is that he biggest deal man for Trump is that he biggest deal man for Trump is that he has both the skill and the has both the skill and the has both the skill and the predisposition to not be a

predisposition to not be a predisposition to not be a warmonger he I think better than the warmonger he I think better than the warmonger he I think better than the other candidates I've seen is able to other candidates I've seen is able to other candidates I've seen is able to end Wars and end them now you might end Wars and end them now you might end Wars and end them now you might disagree with it but in a way where disagree with it but in a way where disagree with it but in a way where there's legitimately effective there's legitimately effective there's legitimately effective negotiation that happens like I just negotiation that happens like I just negotiation that happens like I just don't don't don't see the any other candidate currently see the any other candidate currently see the any other candidate currently being able to sit down with zinsky and being able to sit down with zinsky and being able to sit down with zinsky and Putin and to negotiate a peace treaty Putin and to negotiate a peace treaty Putin and to negotiate a peace treaty that both are equally unhappy that both are equally unhappy that both are equally unhappy with with with so on the one hand uh almost all other so on the one hand uh almost all other so on the one hand uh almost all other politicians are going to be controlled politicians are going to be controlled politicians are going to be controlled by the military-industrial complex and by the military-industrial complex and by the military-industrial complex and that uh complex wants to bleed Russia that uh complex wants to bleed Russia that uh complex wants to bleed Russia dry and that's what the Ukraine war is dry and that's what the Ukraine war is dry and that's what the Ukraine war is doing it's a double win for the defense doing it's a double win for the defense doing it's a double win for the defense contractors number one every dollar we contractors number one every dollar we contractors number one every dollar we spend to UK uh send to Ukraine is spend to UK uh send to Ukraine is spend to UK uh send to Ukraine is actually not going to Ukraine it's going actually not going to Ukraine it's going actually not going to Ukraine it's going to us defense contractors and then they to us defense contractors and then they to us defense contractors and then they are sending old weapons to Ukraine the are sending old weapons to Ukraine the are sending old weapons to Ukraine the money is to build new weapons for us so money is to build new weapons for us so money is to build new weapons for us so a lot of people don't know that so the a lot of people don't know that so the a lot of people don't know that so the defense contractors want that war to go defense contractors want that war to go defense contractors want that war to go on forever and they're an enormous on forever and they're an enormous on forever and they're an enormous influence in Washington the second win influence in Washington the second win influence in Washington the second win is they're depleting Russia and Russia is they're depleting Russia and Russia is they're depleting Russia and Russia has gotten them themselves into a has gotten them themselves into a has gotten them themselves into a quagmire like we did in Iraq and quagmire like we did in Iraq and quagmire like we did in Iraq and Afghanistan and they're bleeding out so Afghanistan and they're bleeding out so Afghanistan and they're bleeding out so they the military industrial complex they the military industrial complex they the military industrial complex wants Russia to bleed out for as long as wants Russia to bleed out for as long as wants Russia to bleed out for as long as humanly possible they actually care more humanly possible they actually care more humanly possible they actually care more about their own interests of course than about their own interests of course than about their own interests of course than they do about Ukrainian interests so in

they do about Ukrainian interests so in they do about Ukrainian interests so in fact there's a good argument to be made fact there's a good argument to be made fact there's a good argument to be made that Ukraine could have gotten a peace that Ukraine could have gotten a peace that Ukraine could have gotten a peace deal earlier uh and we prevented it so deal earlier uh and we prevented it so deal earlier uh and we prevented it so but the bottom line now is probably how but the bottom line now is probably how but the bottom line now is probably how a deal gets done is they let go of three a deal gets done is they let go of three a deal gets done is they let go of three more areas in Ukraine they already lost more areas in Ukraine they already lost more areas in Ukraine they already lost Crimea they'd have to let go of three Crimea they'd have to let go of three Crimea they'd have to let go of three more regions and that is tough because more regions and that is tough because more regions and that is tough because at that point Russia's a little bit at that point Russia's a little bit at that point Russia's a little bit encouraged every time they do an encouraged every time they do an encouraged every time they do an invasion they get more land they might invasion they get more land they might invasion they get more land they might not get all the land they wanted but not get all the land they wanted but not get all the land they wanted but they get a lot of land so that's it's a they get a lot of land so that's it's a they get a lot of land so that's it's a very difficult issue but literally which very difficult issue but literally which very difficult issue but literally which which person if they become president which person if they become president which person if they become president will end the war Trump will end that war will end the war Trump will end that war will end the war Trump will end that war because Trump will go in and he loves because Trump will go in and he loves because Trump will go in and he loves Russia and Putin anyway I just disagree Russia and Putin anyway I just disagree Russia and Putin anyway I just disagree with he he loves Russia the implication with he he loves Russia the implication with he he loves Russia the implication of that meaning he will do whatever of that meaning he will do whatever of that meaning he will do whatever Putin tells him I think he'll do 90% of Putin tells him I think he'll do 90% of Putin tells him I think he'll do 90% of what Putin tells him I just disagree what Putin tells him I just disagree what Putin tells him I just disagree with that I think uh I think he wants to with that I think uh I think he wants to with that I think uh I think he wants to be the kind of person that says you be the kind of person that says you be the kind of person that says you to Putin while while patting while to Putin while while patting while to Putin while while patting while patting him on the back and being you patting him on the back and being you patting him on the back and being you know but out neotia Putin so I I don't know but out neotia Putin so I I don't know but out neotia Putin so I I don't like talking about Russia because like talking about Russia because like talking about Russia because there's so much emotions that go into there's so much emotions that go into there's so much emotions that go into that topic the rightwing the minute you that topic the rightwing the minute you that topic the rightwing the minute you mention Russia they're like oh it's a mention Russia they're like oh it's a mention Russia they're like oh it's a hoax and all this baggage that comes hoax and all this baggage that comes hoax and all this baggage that comes with it Etc to me Russia's not any with it Etc to me Russia's not any with it Etc to me Russia's not any different than Saudi Arabia or Israel different than Saudi Arabia or Israel different than Saudi Arabia or Israel for Trump you give me money I like you

for Trump you give me money I like you for Trump you give me money I like you you give buy my Apartments I like you you give buy my Apartments I like you you give buy my Apartments I like you right if you don't give me money I don't right if you don't give me money I don't right if you don't give me money I don't like you it's not that complicated so like you it's not that complicated so like you it's not that complicated so okay take like don't worry about the okay take like don't worry about the okay take like don't worry about the Russia part of it like the bottom line Russia part of it like the bottom line Russia part of it like the bottom line is Trump thinks what do I care about is Trump thinks what do I care about is Trump thinks what do I care about those three regions of UK Ukraine I want those three regions of UK Ukraine I want those three regions of UK Ukraine I want to get this thing done right so he'll go to get this thing done right so he'll go to get this thing done right so he'll go and he'll say Ukraine we're going to and he'll say Ukraine we're going to and he'll say Ukraine we're going to withdraw all help unless you agree to a withdraw all help unless you agree to a withdraw all help unless you agree to a peace deal with Russia and Russia wants peace deal with Russia and Russia wants peace deal with Russia and Russia wants those three regions that's the peace those three regions that's the peace those three regions that's the peace deal that's it so Ukraine will lose a a deal that's it so Ukraine will lose a a deal that's it so Ukraine will lose a a part of their country and we'll get to a part of their country and we'll get to a part of their country and we'll get to a peace deal see I I hope not I hope not I peace deal see I I hope not I hope not I peace deal see I I hope not I hope not I think think think Trump uh sees themselves and uh wants to Trump uh sees themselves and uh wants to Trump uh sees themselves and uh wants to be a great negotiator so and I be a great negotiator so and I be a great negotiator so and I personally personally personally want the death the death of people to want the death the death of people to want the death the death of people to end and I think Trump would bring that end and I think Trump would bring that end and I think Trump would bring that much faster and I I disagree with you at much faster and I I disagree with you at much faster and I I disagree with you at least my hope is that he would negotiate least my hope is that he would negotiate least my hope is that he would negotiate something that would be fair he's something that would be fair he's something that would be fair he's not his anti-war record is so not his anti-war record is so not his anti-war record is so complicated because moving the embassy complicated because moving the embassy complicated because moving the embassy in Israel and killing the top Iranian in Israel and killing the top Iranian in Israel and killing the top Iranian General were super provocative and they General were super provocative and they General were super provocative and they could have easily triggered a giant War could have easily triggered a giant War could have easily triggered a giant War there and then you know what's going to there and then you know what's going to there and then you know what's going to happen if you get into any kind of real happen if you get into any kind of real happen if you get into any kind of real war Trump's going to want to prove his war Trump's going to want to prove his war Trump's going to want to prove his buttons larger so then he's going to do buttons larger so then he's going to do buttons larger so then he's going to do massive massive massive ridiculous bombings I mean I'm worried ridiculous bombings I mean I'm worried ridiculous bombings I mean I'm worried about nukes and so we had Giuliani on

about nukes and so we had Giuliani on about nukes and so we had Giuliani on the show The on on the RNC and I asked the show The on on the RNC and I asked the show The on on the RNC and I asked him this question I said you know he him this question I said you know he him this question I said you know he keep saying oh they wouldn't do it if I keep saying oh they wouldn't do it if I keep saying oh they wouldn't do it if I was in charge I'm like what does that was in charge I'm like what does that was in charge I'm like what does that mean because it sounds like what it mean because it sounds like what it mean because it sounds like what it means is they wouldn't do it because means is they wouldn't do it because means is they wouldn't do it because they know if they did it I would do they know if they did it I would do they know if they did it I would do something insane like attack something insane like attack something insane like attack Russia or use nukes and Rudy said yeah Russia or use nukes and Rudy said yeah Russia or use nukes and Rudy said yeah that's what it means so that means you that's what it means so that means you that's what it means so that means you have to at least Bluff that and you have have to at least Bluff that and you have have to at least Bluff that and you have to get them to believe that he's a to get them to believe that he's a to get them to believe that he's a Madman that's the madman theory of Nixon Madman that's the madman theory of Nixon Madman that's the madman theory of Nixon and Nix and and Rudy said that too he and Nix and and Rudy said that too he and Nix and and Rudy said that too he was very clear about it but the problem was very clear about it but the problem was very clear about it but the problem is if you get your bluff called and so is if you get your bluff called and so is if you get your bluff called and so if you actually attack Russia you're if you actually attack Russia you're if you actually attack Russia you're going to start World War III so that's going to start World War III so that's going to start World War III so that's why why why yeah if you could if you could just get yeah if you could if you could just get yeah if you could if you could just get away with bluffing maybe but he's away with bluffing maybe but he's away with bluffing maybe but he's playing a very dangerous game and he playing a very dangerous game and he playing a very dangerous game and he massively increased drone strikes on the massively increased drone strikes on the massively increased drone strikes on the other hand he didn't bomb Iran further other hand he didn't bomb Iran further other hand he didn't bomb Iran further and on the other hand he started the and on the other hand he started the and on the other hand he started the process of withdrawal from Afghanistan process of withdrawal from Afghanistan process of withdrawal from Afghanistan so not black and white complicated so not black and white complicated so not black and white complicated record and one thing I I give him record and one thing I I give him record and one thing I I give him another piece of credit another piece of credit another piece of credit here I think I'm taking this steel here I think I'm taking this steel here I think I'm taking this steel Manning too far uh but here's Manning too far uh but here's Manning too far uh but here's the the credit was that um he changed the the credit was that um he changed the the credit was that um he changed the rhetoric of the rightwing they went the rhetoric of the rightwing they went the rhetoric of the rightwing they went from the party of Dick Cheney war is from the party of Dick Cheney war is from the party of Dick Cheney war is great uh and let's it you know all great uh and let's it you know all great uh and let's it you know all Muslims are evil and so he he hates

Muslims are evil and so he he hates Muslims are evil and so he he hates Muslims too but that's a different thing Muslims too but that's a different thing Muslims too but that's a different thing right but like oh we have to attack the right but like oh we have to attack the right but like oh we have to attack the enemy we have to start wars Etc to now enemy we have to start wars Etc to now enemy we have to start wars Etc to now Republican voters are generally anti-war Republican voters are generally anti-war Republican voters are generally anti-war and hate Dick Cheney oh I'll take it and hate Dick Cheney oh I'll take it and hate Dick Cheney oh I'll take it I'll take it so that's a great thing I'll take it so that's a great thing I'll take it so that's a great thing that Trump did even if he didn't mean it that Trump did even if he didn't mean it that Trump did even if he didn't mean it even if he does these provocative things even if he does these provocative things even if he does these provocative things that could lead to a much worse War even that could lead to a much worse War even that could lead to a much worse War even if I'm worried that he'll be so reckless if I'm worried that he'll be so reckless if I'm worried that he'll be so reckless he'll start a bigger War at least he did he'll start a bigger War at least he did he'll start a bigger War at least he did that right and so I'm happy to have our that right and so I'm happy to have our that right and so I'm happy to have our our right-wing brothers and sisters join our right-wing brothers and sisters join our right-wing brothers and sisters join us in the anti-war movement and and I'm us in the anti-war movement and and I'm us in the anti-war movement and and I'm not being a jerk about it like I love it not being a jerk about it like I love it not being a jerk about it like I love it and and any and so this is another thing and and any and so this is another thing and and any and so this is another thing the left does wrong from time to time the left does wrong from time to time the left does wrong from time to time which is if you agree with a which is if you agree with a which is if you agree with a right-winger 2% they'll be like oh right-winger 2% they'll be like oh right-winger 2% they'll be like oh welcome in come on vote for Trump come welcome in come on vote for Trump come welcome in come on vote for Trump come on in yeah woohoo water's warm right if on in yeah woohoo water's warm right if on in yeah woohoo water's warm right if you if you disagree with the left 2% you if you disagree with the left 2% you if you disagree with the left 2% they're like that's it you're banished they're like that's it you're banished they're like that's it you're banished and you're a Nazi well brother how are and you're a Nazi well brother how are and you're a Nazi well brother how are we going to win an election if you're we going to win an election if you're we going to win an election if you're banishing everybody there is right so banishing everybody there is right so banishing everybody there is right so hold up these Republican voters are hold up these Republican voters are hold up these Republican voters are coming at your anti-war position take coming at your anti-war position take coming at your anti-war position take the win no they're magga and I won't the win no they're magga and I won't the win no they're magga and I won't deal with them even when they agree with deal with them even when they agree with deal with them even when they agree with you you you that doesn't make any sense that doesn't that doesn't make any sense that doesn't that doesn't make any sense that doesn't make any sense take the win right so make any sense take the win right so make any sense take the win right so when Charlie Kirk says yes to Paid when Charlie Kirk says yes to Paid when Charlie Kirk says yes to Paid Family Leave when Patrick Bet David on Family Leave when Patrick Bet David on Family Leave when Patrick Bet David on his program says yes roughly says yes to his program says yes roughly says yes to his program says yes roughly says yes to Paid Family Leave take the win RFK Jr Paid Family Leave take the win RFK Jr Paid Family Leave take the win RFK Jr you said uh some positive things for a

you said uh some positive things for a you said uh some positive things for a while about RFK Jr uh and I think you while about RFK Jr uh and I think you while about RFK Jr uh and I think you said you would even said you would even said you would even consider uh voting for him given the consider uh voting for him given the consider uh voting for him given the Slate of people this was at the time Slate of people this was at the time Slate of people this was at the time when Biden was uh still in um what do when Biden was uh still in um what do when Biden was uh still in um what do you think about him what do you think you think about him what do you think you think about him what do you think about RFK Jr as a candidate as a person about RFK Jr as a candidate as a person about RFK Jr as a candidate as a person he's been on the show right yeah so he he's been on the show right yeah so he he's been on the show right yeah so he he was on our show people love that he was on our show people love that he was on our show people love that interview you could check it out anytime interview you could check it out anytime interview you could check it out anytime right um and and why do people love it right um and and why do people love it right um and and why do people love it whether they're right or left because whether they're right or left because whether they're right or left because we're Fair we actually ask him about his we're Fair we actually ask him about his we're Fair we actually ask him about his policy positions he explained them I policy positions he explained them I policy positions he explained them I challenge him and then he explains and challenge him and then he explains and challenge him and then he explains and we give him a fair hearing but I I knew we give him a fair hearing but I I knew we give him a fair hearing but I I knew Bobby a little bit before he ran when he Bobby a little bit before he ran when he Bobby a little bit before he ran when he was an environmental a lawyer right uh was an environmental a lawyer right uh was an environmental a lawyer right uh and his legal work is excellent um and and his legal work is excellent um and and his legal work is excellent um and and he's been on the right side of most and he's been on the right side of most and he's been on the right side of most of the issues for most of his life so a of the issues for most of his life so a of the issues for most of his life so a I like him on that two on his Wildlife I like him on that two on his Wildlife I like him on that two on his Wildlife the Dead bear and the worms and all that the Dead bear and the worms and all that the Dead bear and the worms and all that stuff right so there's two important stuff right so there's two important stuff right so there's two important lessons you should get about out of that lessons you should get about out of that lessons you should get about out of that well one's just about Bobby but the well one's just about Bobby but the well one's just about Bobby but the other one's a general one that's really other one's a general one that's really other one's a general one that's really important for you to know no matter what important for you to know no matter what important for you to know no matter what you think of Bobby Kennedy on the you think of Bobby Kennedy on the you think of Bobby Kennedy on the personal front I have a friend that's personal front I have a friend that's personal front I have a friend that's very similar to him in fact he's one of very similar to him in fact he's one of very similar to him in fact he's one of my best friends and and I know why I my best friends and and I know why I my best friends and and I know why I this my theory on why Bobby and my this my theory on why Bobby and my this my theory on why Bobby and my friend are LED a wild life both of their friend are LED a wild life both of their friend are LED a wild life both of their dads young died young when my friend's dads young died young when my friend's dads young died young when my friend's dad died he he was 18 and his dad died

dad died he he was 18 and his dad died dad died he he was 18 and his dad died in his arms and he has a motto what is in his arms and he has a motto what is in his arms and he has a motto what is lived cannot be unlived so if I had a lived cannot be unlived so if I had a lived cannot be unlived so if I had a great time and I thought it was great time and I thought it was great time and I thought it was hilarious to dump a dead bear some Park hilarious to dump a dead bear some Park hilarious to dump a dead bear some Park then I lived it and I had a great time then I lived it and I had a great time then I lived it and I had a great time and nothing you could do about it okay and nothing you could do about it okay and nothing you could do about it okay and sometimes that'll get you in trouble and sometimes that'll get you in trouble and sometimes that'll get you in trouble and sometimes you'll have a fantastic and sometimes you'll have a fantastic and sometimes you'll have a fantastic time right and and obviously Bobby's dad time right and and obviously Bobby's dad time right and and obviously Bobby's dad was killed it when he was young and was killed it when he was young and was killed it when he was young and maybe that got into his head of like you maybe that got into his head of like you maybe that got into his head of like you better Live Strong and and you know live better Live Strong and and you know live better Live Strong and and you know live an interesting life and so I don't an interesting life and so I don't an interesting life and so I don't begrudge him that even if I begrudge begrudge him that even if I begrudge begrudge him that even if I begrudge some of the things that he did in that some of the things that he did in that some of the things that he did in that life I get why he did it so I don't hate life I get why he did it so I don't hate life I get why he did it so I don't hate him like other people hate him for some him like other people hate him for some him like other people hate him for some of those personal stuff right so and I of those personal stuff right so and I of those personal stuff right so and I like him for all the things that he did like him for all the things that he did like him for all the things that he did positive holding uh you know fossil fuel positive holding uh you know fossil fuel positive holding uh you know fossil fuel companies accountable protecting companies accountable protecting companies accountable protecting communities that had poison dumped into communities that had poison dumped into communities that had poison dumped into the rivers Etc right so the thing that the rivers Etc right so the thing that the rivers Etc right so the thing that affects everybody is when he gets like affects everybody is when he gets like affects everybody is when he gets like corporate media smeared the hell out of corporate media smeared the hell out of corporate media smeared the hell out of him and they didn't allow him to speak him and they didn't allow him to speak him and they didn't allow him to speak and then they did the needle in a Hy and then they did the needle in a Hy and then they did the needle in a Hy stack trick so whenever it's an Insider stack trick so whenever it's an Insider stack trick so whenever it's an Insider they find the best parts of their lives they find the best parts of their lives they find the best parts of their lives and then they amplify so Joe Biden is and then they amplify so Joe Biden is and then they amplify so Joe Biden is average Joe from Scranton average Joe from Scranton average Joe from Scranton been in DC for the last 52 years you been in DC for the last 52 years you been in DC for the last 52 years you think we don't have eyes in ears okay think we don't have eyes in ears okay think we don't have eyes in ears okay like Average Joe from Scranton who are

like Average Joe from Scranton who are like Average Joe from Scranton who are you kidding so there is a guy named Fred you kidding so there is a guy named Fred you kidding so there is a guy named Fred Thompson who's an actor and he was a Thompson who's an actor and he was a Thompson who's an actor and he was a senator from Tennessee later and he had senator from Tennessee later and he had senator from Tennessee later and he had this great little trick that he would do this great little trick that he would do this great little trick that he would do as a red pickup truck that he would as a red pickup truck that he would as a red pickup truck that he would campaign with right so so he looks like campaign with right so so he looks like campaign with right so so he looks like a regular Joe right but he he's a a regular Joe right but he he's a a regular Joe right but he he's a millionaire actor but here's the funny millionaire actor but here's the funny millionaire actor but here's the funny part he would drive to the red pickup part he would drive to the red pickup part he would drive to the red pickup truck in a limo and he would drive back truck in a limo and he would drive back truck in a limo and he would drive back from the campaign event in a limo but from the campaign event in a limo but from the campaign event in a limo but the Press never reported the limo they the Press never reported the limo they the Press never reported the limo they only reported him in the red pickup only reported him in the red pickup only reported him in the red pickup truck as if that's what he drives see truck as if that's what he drives see truck as if that's what he drives see that's the theater of politics why cuz that's the theater of politics why cuz that's the theater of politics why cuz Fred Thompson was a corporate Republican Fred Thompson was a corporate Republican Fred Thompson was a corporate Republican so they loved him so they go yeah sure so they loved him so they go yeah sure so they loved him so they go yeah sure yeah red pickup truck a good old friend yeah red pickup truck a good old friend yeah red pickup truck a good old friend right so but if you're an outsider and right so but if you're an outsider and right so but if you're an outsider and they don't like you then they're going they don't like you then they're going they don't like you then they're going to look at the haast stack of your life to look at the haast stack of your life to look at the haast stack of your life and they're going to try to find needles and they're going to try to find needles and they're going to try to find needles so they've done this to Trump they've so they've done this to Trump they've so they've done this to Trump they've done this to Bernie they've done this to done this to Bernie they've done this to done this to Bernie they've done this to Bobby Kennedy Bobby Kennedy Bobby Kennedy Jr uh and with with Bobby they're like Jr uh and with with Bobby they're like Jr uh and with with Bobby they're like oo there's some juicy needles in here oo there's some juicy needles in here oo there's some juicy needles in here okay so they find those and they go you okay so they find those and they go you okay so they find those and they go you see this the only thing B you should see this the only thing B you should see this the only thing B you should know about Bobby Kennedy Jr is that he know about Bobby Kennedy Jr is that he know about Bobby Kennedy Jr is that he found a dead bear and put it in Central found a dead bear and put it in Central found a dead bear and put it in Central Park Park Park uh oh wait wait wait I found another one uh oh wait wait wait I found another one uh oh wait wait wait I found another one the other thing you should know about the other thing you should know about the other thing you should know about Bobby is that he once said in a divorce Bobby is that he once said in a divorce Bobby is that he once said in a divorce deposition that he had a brain warm that deposition that he had a brain warm that deposition that he had a brain warm that it by the way it turns out that affects it by the way it turns out that affects it by the way it turns out that affects millions of people and it's not that big millions of people and it's not that big millions of people and it's not that big a deal right but look he is a radical oh a deal right but look he is a radical oh a deal right but look he is a radical oh he is this defines them completely the he is this defines them completely the he is this defines them completely the spectacular case of that actually

spectacular case of that actually spectacular case of that actually happened to me so I ran for congress in happened to me so I ran for congress in happened to me so I ran for congress in 2020 and the New York Times LA Times CNN 2020 and the New York Times LA Times CNN 2020 and the New York Times LA Times CNN they all butchered me with needles they all butchered me with needles they all butchered me with needles okay so they said it's a long history of okay so they said it's a long history of okay so they said it's a long history of making anti-muslim making anti-muslim making anti-muslim jokes well first of all they didn't even jokes well first of all they didn't even jokes well first of all they didn't even say jokes they said anti-muslim say jokes they said anti-muslim say jokes they said anti-muslim rhetoric I'm like I'm Muslim do I mean rhetoric I'm like I'm Muslim do I mean rhetoric I'm like I'm Muslim do I mean I'm an atheist but I grew up Muslim my I'm an atheist but I grew up Muslim my I'm an atheist but I grew up Muslim my family's Muslim my background's Muslim family's Muslim my background's Muslim family's Muslim my background's Muslim you don't think that's relevant in the you don't think that's relevant in the you don't think that's relevant in the story and they did it based on one joke story and they did it based on one joke story and they did it based on one joke I told about and they say oh also of I told about and they say oh also of I told about and they say oh also of course I'm they say that I'm course I'm they say that I'm course I'm they say that I'm anti-semitic that's like that's you anti-semitic that's like that's you anti-semitic that's like that's you start with that that's that's just baked start with that that's that's just baked start with that that's that's just baked in for everyone right so they said I had in for everyone right so they said I had in for everyone right so they said I had made a joke about how Orthodox Jews and made a joke about how Orthodox Jews and made a joke about how Orthodox Jews and Muslims they think that getting into Muslims they think that getting into Muslims they think that getting into heaven is a little bit of a fashion heaven is a little bit of a fashion heaven is a little bit of a fashion contest okay so they the Orthodox Jews contest okay so they the Orthodox Jews contest okay so they the Orthodox Jews go in there with a Russian Coast from go in there with a Russian Coast from go in there with a Russian Coast from the 1800s and the giant Russian hat you the 1800s and the giant Russian hat you the 1800s and the giant Russian hat you know the Muslims go with their robe and know the Muslims go with their robe and know the Muslims go with their robe and the skull cap and stuff and God's the skull cap and stuff and God's the skull cap and stuff and God's looking around going no no no oh nice looking around going no no no oh nice looking around going no no no oh nice outfit come on in right like do you outfit come on in right like do you outfit come on in right like do you really think the creator of the universe really think the creator of the universe really think the creator of the universe gives a damn what you wear okay so the gives a damn what you wear okay so the gives a damn what you wear okay so the New York Times took that and said long New York Times took that and said long New York Times took that and said long history of being anti-semitic and history of being anti-semitic and history of being anti-semitic and anti-muslim right okay so there's this anti-muslim right okay so there's this anti-muslim right okay so there's this oh this is a famous one uh relatively oh this is a famous one uh relatively oh this is a famous one uh relatively famous uh I did a joke about beastiality famous uh I did a joke about beastiality famous uh I did a joke about beastiality like nice a dozen years ago very nice so

like nice a dozen years ago very nice so like nice a dozen years ago very nice so I start out the joke nice and dry and I I start out the joke nice and dry and I I start out the joke nice and dry and I go look is the horse going to object if go look is the horse going to object if go look is the horse going to object if he's the one getting pleasure now Anna he's the one getting pleasure now Anna he's the one getting pleasure now Anna as my co-host she's younger at that time as my co-host she's younger at that time as my co-host she's younger at that time and she's like that seems like a bad and she's like that seems like a bad and she's like that seems like a bad idea I'm like of course it's a bad idea idea I'm like of course it's a bad idea idea I'm like of course it's a bad idea okay but I'm being drying but some okay but I'm being drying but some okay but I'm being drying but some people are laughing in the studio and people are laughing in the studio and people are laughing in the studio and stuff and then uh and then I say you stuff and then uh and then I say you stuff and then uh and then I say you know if I was Emperor of the world I know if I was Emperor of the world I know if I was Emperor of the world I would make that legal and they cut the would make that legal and they cut the would make that legal and they cut the tape if you watch the rest of the tape I tape if you watch the rest of the tape I tape if you watch the rest of the tape I say now would the horse object no so but they cut the tape so the New no so but they cut the tape so the New York T So originally a right-winger did York T So originally a right-winger did York T So originally a right-winger did that and then a like a a establishment that and then a like a a establishment that and then a like a a establishment troll uh in that primary started putting troll uh in that primary started putting troll uh in that primary started putting out those tapes to everyone Jake Tapper out those tapes to everyone Jake Tapper out those tapes to everyone Jake Tapper retweeted it didn't look to see if it's retweeted it didn't look to see if it's retweeted it didn't look to see if it's edited or not edited the New York Times edited or not edited the New York Times edited or not edited the New York Times implied that beastality was part of my implied that beastality was part of my implied that beastality was part of my agenda agenda Jesus Christ please tell agenda agenda Jesus Christ please tell agenda agenda Jesus Christ please tell me that's part of your Wikipedia that me that's part of your Wikipedia that me that's part of your Wikipedia that that that the beastiology thing is part that that the beastiology thing is part that that the beastiology thing is part of your I don't know I don't know but of your I don't know I don't know but of your I don't know I don't know but guys so in that in those stories I'm not guys so in that in those stories I'm not guys so in that in those stories I'm not important and even Bobby Kennedy Jr is important and even Bobby Kennedy Jr is important and even Bobby Kennedy Jr is not not not important what it reveals about the important what it reveals about the important what it reveals about the media is what's important so they're media is what's important so they're media is what's important so they're going to find those needles whether it's going to find those needles whether it's going to find those needles whether it's and even if they don't have the needles and even if they don't have the needles and even if they don't have the needles you know what we'll cut the tape before you know what we'll cut the tape before you know what we'll cut the tape before your joke uh jok's punchline right so your joke uh jok's punchline right so your joke uh jok's punchline right so we'll just run it and we'll lie about we'll just run it and we'll lie about we'll just run it and we'll lie about you who cares right and so oh they also you who cares right and so oh they also you who cares right and so oh they also said that I had David dukon to share his

said that I had David dukon to share his said that I had David dukon to share his anti-semitic point of view if you watch anti-semitic point of view if you watch anti-semitic point of view if you watch the interview I told David Duke you're the interview I told David Duke you're the interview I told David Duke you're an anti-semite you're a racist you're a an anti-semite you're a racist you're a an anti-semite you're a racist you're a bigot you're an idiot right it was the bigot you're an idiot right it was the bigot you're an idiot right it was the toughest interview he's probably ever toughest interview he's probably ever toughest interview he's probably ever had in his life and other journalists had in his life and other journalists had in his life and other journalists got mad at that part and they were like got mad at that part and they were like got mad at that part and they were like no guys you're just flat out lying like no guys you're just flat out lying like no guys you're just flat out lying like I I watched the interview did any of you I I watched the interview did any of you I I watched the interview did any of you watch the interview he takes the guy's watch the interview he takes the guy's watch the interview he takes the guy's head off right and so the New York Times head off right and so the New York Times head off right and so the New York Times issued a correction on that one so issued a correction on that one so issued a correction on that one so they're like okay fine he was being they're like okay fine he was being they're like okay fine he was being sarcastic when he said sure you're not sarcastic when he said sure you're not sarcastic when he said sure you're not racist Dave okay well it's the one of racist Dave okay well it's the one of racist Dave okay well it's the one of the sources of Hope to all this is the sources of Hope to all this is the sources of Hope to all this is there's a lot of uh Independent Media there's a lot of uh Independent Media there's a lot of uh Independent Media now um but mainstream media has a lot of now um but mainstream media has a lot of now um but mainstream media has a lot of power still it cares a lot of power you power still it cares a lot of power you power still it cares a lot of power you think they're going to die eventually think they're going to die eventually think they're going to die eventually yeah definitely so two things about that yeah definitely so two things about that yeah definitely so two things about that that are super important first of all that are super important first of all that are super important first of all this is why I tell people to have hope I this is why I tell people to have hope I this is why I tell people to have hope I don't believe in false hope right so if don't believe in false hope right so if don't believe in false hope right so if you think KLA Harris is your night and you think KLA Harris is your night and you think KLA Harris is your night and shining armor she's going to come in shining armor she's going to come in shining armor she's going to come in she's going to get money out of politics she's going to get money out of politics she's going to get money out of politics she's going to ignore the donors that's she's going to ignore the donors that's she's going to ignore the donors that's false hope it's crazy talk right so I false hope it's crazy talk right so I false hope it's crazy talk right so I why am I in favor with KLA Harr I'm why am I in favor with KLA Harr I'm why am I in favor with KLA Harr I'm going to live to fight another day I'm going to live to fight another day I'm going to live to fight another day I'm worried that Trump's going to end the worried that Trump's going to end the worried that Trump's going to end the whole thing and then we're not going to whole thing and then we're not going to whole thing and then we're not going to have an opportunity to actually get a have an opportunity to actually get a have an opportunity to actually get a populist win right so and I'm encouraged populist win right so and I'm encouraged populist win right so and I'm encouraged by some of the things she's doing and by some of the things she's doing and by some of the things she's doing and maybe she does even 25% of her agenda maybe she does even 25% of her agenda maybe she does even 25% of her agenda but I'm not going to give you false hope but I'm not going to give you false hope but I'm not going to give you false hope that she's your savior right but I that she's your savior right but I that she's your savior right but I believe massively in Hope and number one believe massively in Hope and number one believe massively in Hope and number one because it's true to to the point that because it's true to to the point that because it's true to to the point that we were talking about earlier Lex and we were talking about earlier Lex and we were talking about earlier Lex and how last 200 years have been choppy but

how last 200 years have been choppy but how last 200 years have been choppy but overall fantastic t terrible things have overall fantastic t terrible things have overall fantastic t terrible things have happened in that time period some of the happened in that time period some of the happened in that time period some of the worst things that have ever happened in worst things that have ever happened in worst things that have ever happened in history but overall life expectancy is history but overall life expectancy is history but overall life expectancy is higher everything is you know incomes higher everything is you know incomes higher everything is you know incomes are higher health is better Etc right so are higher health is better Etc right so are higher health is better Etc right so hope is not misplaced it's real it's hope is not misplaced it's real it's hope is not misplaced it's real it's empirical okay so now we talked about empirical okay so now we talked about empirical okay so now we talked about how you could get money out of politics how you could get money out of politics how you could get money out of politics and that's a legitimate and that's a legitimate and that's a legitimate hope but media is another place where we hope but media is another place where we hope but media is another place where we have huge hope so of all the corporate have huge hope so of all the corporate have huge hope so of all the corporate robots the most important robot is Media robots the most important robot is Media robots the most important robot is Media so when mainstream media has you hooked so when mainstream media has you hooked so when mainstream media has you hooked in at the back of your neck you're going in at the back of your neck you're going in at the back of your neck you're going to believe all these fairy tales about to believe all these fairy tales about to believe all these fairy tales about how politicians are nice people and how politicians are nice people and how politicians are nice people and they're trying to do the right thing and they're trying to do the right thing and they're trying to do the right thing and donor money doesn't have any influence donor money doesn't have any influence donor money doesn't have any influence on them right so once you unplug from on them right so once you unplug from on them right so once you unplug from The Matrix um well then you begin to see The Matrix um well then you begin to see The Matrix um well then you begin to see oh yeah hey look he took the donor money oh yeah hey look he took the donor money oh yeah hey look he took the donor money did what the donors wanted he took the did what the donors wanted he took the did what the donors wanted he took the donor money did what the donors want 98% donor money did what the donors want 98% donor money did what the donors want 98% of the time right so then you see of the time right so then you see of the time right so then you see clearly so now what's happening at Large clearly so now what's happening at Large clearly so now what's happening at Large mainstream media is losing their power mainstream media is losing their power mainstream media is losing their power and now online media is swarming and now online media is swarming and now online media is swarming swarming swarming swarming and so this swarming swarming swarming and so this swarming swarming swarming and so this goes back to why I started The Young goes back to why I started The Young goes back to why I started The Young Turks so let me touch on that here and Turks so let me touch on that here and Turks so let me touch on that here and then we can come back to it if you want then we can come back to it if you want then we can come back to it if you want so in 1998 I write an email to my so in 1998 I write an email to my so in 1998 I write an email to my friends and I say online video is going friends and I say online video is going friends and I say online video is going to be to be to be television and unsurprisingly and they television and unsurprisingly and they television and unsurprisingly and they say you're nuts that's never going to say you're nuts that's never going to say you're nuts that's never going to happen at that point we're still doing

happen at that point we're still doing happen at that point we're still doing AOL dial UPS like right online video AOL dial UPS like right online video AOL dial UPS like right online video barely exists and television's Mammoth barely exists and television's Mammoth barely exists and television's Mammoth um I said guys it's just a matter of um I said guys it's just a matter of um I said guys it's just a matter of logic like for me it's there's so many logic like for me it's there's so many logic like for me it's there's so many ironies I'm known for yelling online ironies I'm known for yelling online ironies I'm known for yelling online sometimes but in reality I'm obsessed sometimes but in reality I'm obsessed sometimes but in reality I'm obsessed with logic so when you have Gatekeepers with logic so when you have Gatekeepers with logic so when you have Gatekeepers Gatekeepers pick based on what they want Gatekeepers pick based on what they want Gatekeepers pick based on what they want what the powerful one in that case what the powerful one in that case what the powerful one in that case advertisers politicians Etc they are advertisers politicians Etc they are advertisers politicians Etc they are never going to design programming as never going to design programming as never going to design programming as good as wisdom of the crowd when uh good as wisdom of the crowd when uh good as wisdom of the crowd when uh people start doing online video I'm like people start doing online video I'm like people start doing online video I'm like boom there's no Gatekeepers this is boom there's no Gatekeepers this is boom there's no Gatekeepers this is democratized wisdom of the crowd is democratized wisdom of the crowd is democratized wisdom of the crowd is going to win so if you start with no going to win so if you start with no going to win so if you start with no money and you let's pick a different money and you let's pick a different money and you let's pick a different example not The Young Turks let's say example not The Young Turks let's say example not The Young Turks let's say Phil def Franco he's been around forever Phil def Franco he's been around forever Phil def Franco he's been around forever okay and uh and he also does news and so okay and uh and he also does news and so okay and uh and he also does news and so Phil starts doing a Phil starts doing a Phil starts doing a show and he doesn't have any money just show and he doesn't have any money just show and he doesn't have any money just like us and so what does he what does he like us and so what does he what does he like us and so what does he what does he have to do to get an audience he has to have to do to get an audience he has to have to do to get an audience he has to do a show that is really popular he's do a show that is really popular he's do a show that is really popular he's got to figure out a way how do I get got to figure out a way how do I get got to figure out a way how do I get their attention how do I keep their their attention how do I keep their their attention how do I keep their attention and he starts doing a great attention and he starts doing a great attention and he starts doing a great show right and so every year it's us and show right and so every year it's us and show right and so every year it's us and Phil for best news show for like a Phil for best news show for like a Phil for best news show for like a decade right and meanwhile on back over decade right and meanwhile on back over decade right and meanwhile on back over at CNN Wolf Blitzer is still droning on at CNN Wolf Blitzer is still droning on at CNN Wolf Blitzer is still droning on from a teleprompter you put Wolf Blitzer from a teleprompter you put Wolf Blitzer from a teleprompter you put Wolf Blitzer online without the force of CNN with him online without the force of CNN with him online without the force of CNN with him he gets negative seven views no one's

he gets negative seven views no one's he gets negative seven views no one's interested in what Wolf Blitzer has to interested in what Wolf Blitzer has to interested in what Wolf Blitzer has to say it's not personal I I don't know the say it's not personal I I don't know the say it's not personal I I don't know the brother right I'm just saying brother right I'm just saying brother right I'm just saying institutionally logically Etc so I'm institutionally logically Etc so I'm institutionally logically Etc so I'm like these guys are going to win so when like these guys are going to win so when like these guys are going to win so when YouTube starts we go on YouTube right YouTube starts we go on YouTube right YouTube starts we go on YouTube right away we're the First YouTube partner so away we're the First YouTube partner so away we're the First YouTube partner so I am literally the original YouTuber I am literally the original YouTuber I am literally the original YouTuber okay nice uh Susan W jiski the former okay nice uh Susan W jiski the former okay nice uh Susan W jiski the former CEO the late Susan wuis uh wonderful CEO the late Susan wuis uh wonderful CEO the late Susan wuis uh wonderful woman uh and if that triggers you again woman uh and if that triggers you again woman uh and if that triggers you again on the right you're wrong she was a on the right you're wrong she was a on the right you're wrong she was a terrific person and um and she when she terrific person and um and she when she terrific person and um and she when she started her own YouTube channel uh I was started her own YouTube channel uh I was started her own YouTube channel uh I was the first interview because we were the the first interview because we were the the first interview because we were the first YouTube partner so so I love that first YouTube partner so so I love that first YouTube partner so so I love that so we're in De but let me connect it so we're in De but let me connect it so we're in De but let me connect it back to the hope when mainstream media back to the hope when mainstream media back to the hope when mainstream media has you hooked you got no hope because has you hooked you got no hope because has you hooked you got no hope because you don't have the right information you you don't have the right information you you don't have the right information you have propaganda you have marketing you have propaganda you have marketing you have propaganda you have marketing you don't have real news when you're in the don't have real news when you're in the don't have real news when you're in the online world it's chaotic online world it's chaotic online world it's chaotic and don't get me wrong it's got plenty and don't get me wrong it's got plenty and don't get me wrong it's got plenty of downsides right but within that chaos of downsides right but within that chaos of downsides right but within that chaos the truth begins to emerge and so for the truth begins to emerge and so for the truth begins to emerge and so for example Young Turks has had dozens of example Young Turks has had dozens of example Young Turks has had dozens of fights with different creators fights with different creators fights with different creators throughout history why when you're throughout history why when you're throughout history why when you're number one in news online the algorithm number one in news online the algorithm number one in news online the algorithm rewards anyone attacking you because rewards anyone attacking you because rewards anyone attacking you because then you get into their algorithmic Loop then you get into their algorithmic Loop then you get into their algorithmic Loop mhm it's not an accident that we've been mhm it's not an accident that we've been mhm it's not an accident that we've been attacked dozens of times one we're attacked dozens of times one we're attacked dozens of times one we're independent thinkers so anyone if we independent thinkers so anyone if we independent thinkers so anyone if we don't match their ideology they're going don't match their ideology they're going don't match their ideology they're going to attack us but number two they get in to attack us but number two they get in to attack us but number two they get in our algorithm loop it's too hard to

our algorithm loop it's too hard to our algorithm loop it's too hard to resist right so all of a sudden they resist right so all of a sudden they resist right so all of a sudden they think that we're being funded by Nancy think that we're being funded by Nancy think that we're being funded by Nancy Pelosi or the CIA and oh We're Off to Pelosi or the CIA and oh We're Off to Pelosi or the CIA and oh We're Off to the Races there's another fight right the Races there's another fight right the Races there's another fight right but our competition is a graveyard and but our competition is a graveyard and but our competition is a graveyard and so we've B we won all almost all all of so we've B we won all almost all all of so we've B we won all almost all all of those fights why because we try really those fights why because we try really those fights why because we try really hard to stick with the truth with logic hard to stick with the truth with logic hard to stick with the truth with logic and we don't do audience capture even if and we don't do audience capture even if and we don't do audience capture even if our audience is going in one direction our audience is going in one direction our audience is going in one direction we don't think it's right we Anna and I we don't think it's right we Anna and I we don't think it's right we Anna and I will come out and go no sorry guys love will come out and go no sorry guys love will come out and go no sorry guys love you but rent control is not a good idea you but rent control is not a good idea you but rent control is not a good idea okay ETA so in that okay ETA so in that okay ETA so in that world the people it's going to take a world the people it's going to take a world the people it's going to take a while guys but people who are telling while guys but people who are telling while guys but people who are telling the truth are eventually going to rise the truth are eventually going to rise the truth are eventually going to rise up and when they do now we're free and up and when they do now we're free and up and when they do now we're free and now the second part is even more now the second part is even more now the second part is even more devastating for mainstream media because devastating for mainstream media because devastating for mainstream media because I'm a businessman right I keep looking I'm a businessman right I keep looking I'm a businessman right I keep looking at the revenue for CNN Etc and they have at the revenue for CNN Etc and they have at the revenue for CNN Etc and they have a massive problem and people don't a massive problem and people don't a massive problem and people don't realize how big the problem is that realize how big the problem is that realize how big the problem is that thing is going to capsize I don't talk thing is going to capsize I don't talk thing is going to capsize I don't talk about it often because I don't want more about it often because I don't want more about it often because I don't want more competition okay I'm I also have a competition okay I'm I also have a competition okay I'm I also have a company right in in the online World Etc company right in in the online World Etc company right in in the online World Etc but but but I'm too honest I gotta say but but but I'm too honest I gotta say but but but I'm too honest I gotta say it I gotta say it so there they have two it I gotta say it so there they have two it I gotta say it so there they have two revenue streams one is ADS that's why revenue streams one is ADS that's why revenue streams one is ADS that's why they serve advertisers and politicians they serve advertisers and politicians they serve advertisers and politicians are huge advertisers as we mentioned the are huge advertisers as we mentioned the are huge advertisers as we mentioned the second uh Revenue stream depending on

second uh Revenue stream depending on second uh Revenue stream depending on the compan is arguably more important the compan is arguably more important the compan is arguably more important which is which is which is subscribers so now what happens in a subscribers so now what happens in a subscribers so now what happens in a business normally is uh so they started business normally is uh so they started business normally is uh so they started out low and then they got high and now out low and then they got high and now out low and then they got high and now they got a ton of subscribers at its they got a ton of subscribers at its they got a ton of subscribers at its peak cable has 100 million households peak cable has 100 million households peak cable has 100 million households right so they're raking in unbelievable right so they're raking in unbelievable right so they're raking in unbelievable money from subscriber fees and they got money from subscriber fees and they got money from subscriber fees and they got advertising on top so when you're all advertising on top so when you're all advertising on top so when you're all the way up here your costs start to rise the way up here your costs start to rise the way up here your costs start to rise why do they rise because then the on air why do they rise because then the on air why do they rise because then the on air Talent has leverage and as an example Talent has leverage and as an example Talent has leverage and as an example there's many other examp the and so the there's many other examp the and so the there's many other examp the and so the onair talent like Sean Hannity says I do onair talent like Sean Hannity says I do onair talent like Sean Hannity says I do a program that brings in x amount of a program that brings in x amount of a program that brings in x amount of maybe a 100 million maybe 200 million so maybe a 100 million maybe 200 million so maybe a 100 million maybe 200 million so give me 40 million a year and they do give me 40 million a year and they do give me 40 million a year and they do Shawn is making 40 million a year last I Shawn is making 40 million a year last I Shawn is making 40 million a year last I checked okay so I don't know if he's checked okay so I don't know if he's checked okay so I don't know if he's still getting that kind of money and I'm still getting that kind of money and I'm still getting that kind of money and I'm just basing out on reporting right but just basing out on reporting right but just basing out on reporting right but that's a monster so they have all these that's a monster so they have all these that's a monster so they have all these giant costs but the minute you you go giant costs but the minute you you go giant costs but the minute you you go from 100 million now we're at I think from 100 million now we're at I think from 100 million now we're at I think around 70 million you just lost a giant around 70 million you just lost a giant around 70 million you just lost a giant chunk of your Revenue now when your chunk of your Revenue now when your chunk of your Revenue now when your costs are higher than your Revenue costs are higher than your Revenue costs are higher than your Revenue nighty night it's been nice knowing nighty night it's been nice knowing nighty night it's been nice knowing you yeah it's going to collapse it's you yeah it's going to collapse it's you yeah it's going to collapse it's going to be painful but what we need going to be painful but what we need going to be painful but what we need guys is like sorry last thing on that is guys is like sorry last thing on that is guys is like sorry last thing on that is we need the print guys like AP Reuters we need the print guys like AP Reuters we need the print guys like AP Reuters intercept the lever the serota runs intercept the lever the serota runs intercept the lever the serota runs whatever Ryan's working on now it's that whatever Ryan's working on now it's that whatever Ryan's working on now it's that Ryan Grim that we need those badly we Ryan Grim that we need those badly we Ryan Grim that we need those badly we need someone to collect actual

need someone to collect actual need someone to collect actual information and do the best they can and information and do the best they can and information and do the best they can and presenting it in an objective way we all presenting it in an objective way we all presenting it in an objective way we all got to support that so you can't lose got to support that so you can't lose got to support that so you can't lose text that's so important the TV guys are text that's so important the TV guys are text that's so important the TV guys are just actors you can lose them overnight just actors you can lose them overnight just actors you can lose them overnight and it won't hurt you it'll help you and it won't hurt you it'll help you and it won't hurt you it'll help you yeah just it's going to be yeah just it's going to be yeah just it's going to be a a messy battle for truth because the a a messy battle for truth because the a a messy battle for truth because the reality is there's a lot of money to be reality is there's a lot of money to be reality is there's a lot of money to be made and a lot of attention to be gained made and a lot of attention to be gained made and a lot of attention to be gained from drama farming so of just constantly from drama farming so of just constantly from drama farming so of just constantly creating drama and sometimes drama helps creating drama and sometimes drama helps creating drama and sometimes drama helps find the truth like we were mentioning find the truth like we were mentioning find the truth like we were mentioning but most of the time it's just drama and but most of the time it's just drama and but most of the time it's just drama and it can it doesn't care about the truth it can it doesn't care about the truth it can it doesn't care about the truth it just cares about drama and then the it just cares about drama and then the it just cares about drama and then the same is like conspiracy theories now same is like conspiracy theories now same is like conspiracy theories now some conspiracy theories have value and some conspiracy theories have value and some conspiracy theories have value and depth and they allow us to to question depth and they allow us to to question depth and they allow us to to question The Establishment institutions but the The Establishment institutions but the The Establishment institutions but the bottom line is conspiracy theories get bottom line is conspiracy theories get bottom line is conspiracy theories get clicks and so you can just keep coming clicks and so you can just keep coming clicks and so you can just keep coming up with random conspiracy theories and up with random conspiracy theories and up with random conspiracy theories and they many of them don't have to be they many of them don't have to be they many of them don't have to be grounded in the truth at all and so grounded in the truth at all and so grounded in the truth at all and so that's the sea we're operating in and that's the sea we're operating in and that's the sea we're operating in and so it's a turkey space too but Lex who so it's a turkey space too but Lex who so it's a turkey space too but Lex who look at all the people who are the look at all the people who are the look at all the people who are the biggest uh now because we've now had a biggest uh now because we've now had a biggest uh now because we've now had a couple of decades at this right so uh couple of decades at this right so uh couple of decades at this right so uh and I mean as an industry and I mean as an industry and I mean as an industry so I would argue you're huge and you so I would argue you're huge and you so I would argue you're huge and you don't do that you don't do the don't do that you don't do the don't do that you don't do the conspiracy theories you don't do the conspiracy theories you don't do the conspiracy theories you don't do the drama at all right um Hogan is huge yeah drama at all right um Hogan is huge yeah drama at all right um Hogan is huge yeah maybe there's drama but he's genuine maybe there's drama but he's genuine maybe there's drama but he's genuine right I got a lot of issues with some of

right I got a lot of issues with some of right I got a lot of issues with some of his policies I mixed opinions on Joe in his policies I mixed opinions on Joe in his policies I mixed opinions on Joe in a lot of different ways but I don't a lot of different ways but I don't a lot of different ways but I don't doubt that he's genuine and people can doubt that he's genuine and people can doubt that he's genuine and people can sense that right and he's huge we're sense that right and he's huge we're sense that right and he's huge we're genuine we're huge so this is the market genuine we're huge so this is the market genuine we're huge so this is the market beginning to work yeah so speaking of beginning to work yeah so speaking of beginning to work yeah so speaking of Joe let me ask you about Joe let me ask you about Joe let me ask you about this here we go I didn't actually know this here we go I didn't actually know this here we go I didn't actually know this but when I was prepping for this this but when I was prepping for this this but when I was prepping for this ation I saw that you actually said at ation I saw that you actually said at ation I saw that you actually said at some point in the past that you can beat some point in the past that you can beat some point in the past that you can beat up Rogan in a fight yeah no you said up Rogan in a fight yeah no you said up Rogan in a fight yeah no you said that you have a shot it's a nonzero that you have a shot it's a nonzero that you have a shot it's a nonzero probability yes do you still believe probability yes do you still believe probability yes do you still believe this yes but the probability is dropping this yes but the probability is dropping this yes but the probability is dropping it's dropping every day I think it's the it's dropping every day I think it's the it's dropping every day I think it's the probably the stupidest thing I've ever probably the stupidest thing I've ever probably the stupidest thing I've ever heard you say so I did much I wrestled heard you say so I did much I wrestled heard you say so I did much I wrestled and did Jiu-Jitsu and Judo and all the and did Jiu-Jitsu and Judo and all the and did Jiu-Jitsu and Judo and all the kinds of fighting Sports my whole life kinds of fighting Sports my whole life kinds of fighting Sports my whole life and I just observed a lot of really and I just observed a lot of really and I just observed a lot of really confident large guys roll into gyms he's confident large guys roll into gyms he's confident large guys roll into gyms he's ripped he could deadlift he could talk ripped he could deadlift he could talk ripped he could deadlift he could talk all kinds of and he's believes he's all kinds of and he's believes he's all kinds of and he's believes he's going to be the next world champion and going to be the next world champion and going to be the next world champion and he just gets his ass kicked yeah no no he just gets his ass kicked yeah no no he just gets his ass kicked yeah no no of of course okay and I've seen like I of of course okay and I've seen like I of of course okay and I've seen like I saw this Israeli MMA fighter take on an saw this Israeli MMA fighter take on an saw this Israeli MMA fighter take on an anti-semite who was huge and thought anti-semite who was huge and thought anti-semite who was huge and thought that you know he believed in like Nick that you know he believed in like Nick that you know he believed in like Nick FES is conspiracy theories or something FES is conspiracy theories or something FES is conspiracy theories or something and the MMA fighter dismantled him and I and the MMA fighter dismantled him and I and the MMA fighter dismantled him and I loved it okay and then like we tweeted loved it okay and then like we tweeted loved it okay and then like we tweeted back and forth Etc so guys first let me back and forth Etc so guys first let me back and forth Etc so guys first let me just assure you I get it so now let me

just assure you I get it so now let me just assure you I get it so now let me tell you why I said it and then why I tell you why I said it and then why I tell you why I said it and then why I think it's a non-zero chance so Michael think it's a non-zero chance so Michael think it's a non-zero chance so Michael smar cones had written this smar cones had written this smar cones had written this blog like I don't know 10 15 years ago blog like I don't know 10 15 years ago blog like I don't know 10 15 years ago on hington post we were both bloggers at on hington post we were both bloggers at on hington post we were both bloggers at that point and about the wussification that point and about the wussification that point and about the wussification of America now he was saying the left is of America now he was saying the left is of America now he was saying the left is a bunch of wussies right so I wrote a a bunch of wussies right so I wrote a a bunch of wussies right so I wrote a Blog saying hey Michael I would rather Blog saying hey Michael I would rather Blog saying hey Michael I would rather debate you so if you want to debate debate you so if you want to debate debate you so if you want to debate about how we're wussies let's do it about how we're wussies let's do it about how we're wussies let's do it let's find them but you know you're let's find them but you know you're let's find them but you know you're mentioning physicality right and how you mentioning physicality right and how you mentioning physicality right and how you guys are tougher so if you prefer only guys are tougher so if you prefer only guys are tougher so if you prefer only in a prescribed setting right and we're in a prescribed setting right and we're in a prescribed setting right and we're not going to go do it in the streets not going to go do it in the streets not going to go do it in the streets like idiots right but if you want we'll like idiots right but if you want we'll like idiots right but if you want we'll have a boxing match or whatever you want have a boxing match or whatever you want have a boxing match or whatever you want and we'll see who's tougher and he and we'll see who's tougher and he and we'll see who's tougher and he panicked and he cried to Mommy which was panicked and he cried to Mommy which was panicked and he cried to Mommy which was Ariana Huffington as oh Jake's Ariana Huffington as oh Jake's Ariana Huffington as oh Jake's intimidating me right okay all right intimidating me right okay all right intimidating me right okay all right well who who's the wussy now right well who who's the wussy now right well who who's the wussy now right so that is not to actually get into a so that is not to actually get into a so that is not to actually get into a fight with poor Michael smes right is to fight with poor Michael smes right is to fight with poor Michael smes right is to prove hey don't use rhetoric like that prove hey don't use rhetoric like that prove hey don't use rhetoric like that that's dumb and this is me proving that that's dumb and this is me proving that that's dumb and this is me proving that it's dumb okay so now Joe had said I it's dumb okay so now Joe had said I it's dumb okay so now Joe had said I forget what he said at the time and he forget what he said at the time and he forget what he said at the time and he say something similar right and I'm up say something similar right and I'm up say something similar right and I'm up to hear with Joe at that point I don't to hear with Joe at that point I don't to hear with Joe at that point I don't know if we'll ever talking yet right but know if we'll ever talking yet right but know if we'll ever talking yet right but uh you've been on a show and I really uh you've been on a show and I really uh you've been on a show and I really that was a good that was a good that was a good conversation a while back yeah yeah I conversation a while back yeah yeah I conversation a while back yeah yeah I hope he has you on again yeah so I get hope he has you on again yeah so I get hope he has you on again yeah so I get it he I bet you I don't like this take it he I bet you I don't like this take it he I bet you I don't like this take you have a lot I bet you he hates it

you have a lot I bet you he hates it you have a lot I bet you he hates it because him as an MMA because him as an MMA because him as an MMA commentator he gets to hear so many Bros commentator he gets to hear so many Bros commentator he gets to hear so many Bros yeah it's all about the mindset bro now yeah it's all about the mindset bro now yeah it's all about the mindset bro now to Steel Man the point you're making to Steel Man the point you're making to Steel Man the point you're making which I do think it's the stupidest which I do think it's the stupidest which I do think it's the stupidest thing you've ever said thing you've ever said thing you've ever said but the actual intent which is whether but the actual intent which is whether but the actual intent which is whether your left or right there's there's your left or right there's there's your left or right there's there's strong people on the left like mentally strong people on the left like mentally strong people on the left like mentally strong physically strong like I think strong physically strong like I think strong physically strong like I think the whole point is not that you can beat the whole point is not that you can beat the whole point is not that you can beat him but you're willing to step you're him but you're willing to step you're him but you're willing to step you're willing to fight if you need to that's willing to fight if you need to that's willing to fight if you need to that's it's 100% so it's not like I believe I it's 100% so it's not like I believe I it's 100% so it's not like I believe I can beat him it's like I'm willing like can beat him it's like I'm willing like can beat him it's like I'm willing like all this you know calling the all this you know calling the all this you know calling the people on the left wusses or whatever people on the left wusses or whatever people on the left wusses or whatever I'm willing to step in the fight even if I'm willing to step in the fight even if I'm willing to step in the fight even if I'm on train even I'm if out of shape I'm on train even I'm if out of shape I'm on train even I'm if out of shape I'm willing to fight yeah I get it I I I'm willing to fight yeah I get it I I I'm willing to fight yeah I get it I I understand that but just pick a understand that but just pick a understand that but just pick a different person um that's why I wrote different person um that's why I wrote different person um that's why I wrote down my genuine curiosity is if you can down my genuine curiosity is if you can down my genuine curiosity is if you can beat up Alex Alex Jones versus Jank you beat up Alex Alex Jones versus Jank you beat up Alex Alex Jones versus Jank you that that that the legitim is I would that that that the legitim is I would that that that the legitim is I would pay for that because you're both pay for that because you're both pay for that because you're both untrained uh you both got I would say untrained uh you both got I would say untrained uh you both got I would say the spirit no no he has look I'll give the spirit no no he has look I'll give the spirit no no he has look I'll give the same fairness yeah I think I got an the same fairness yeah I think I got an the same fairness yeah I think I got an 8% chance of being beating Rogan yeah 8% chance of being beating Rogan yeah 8% chance of being beating Rogan yeah you're you're L I know I got it hold on you're you're L I know I got it hold on you're you're L I know I got it hold on and I think to be fair Alex has an 8% and I think to be fair Alex has an 8% and I think to be fair Alex has an 8% chance of beating me okay oh wow okay chance of beating me okay oh wow okay chance of beating me okay oh wow okay okay because you never know he catches okay because you never know he catches okay because you never know he catches you on a lucky punch I got punched in you on a lucky punch I got punched in you on a lucky punch I got punched in the ear once and you lose your balance the ear once and you lose your balance the ear once and you lose your balance and then you're in a lot of trouble

and then you're in a lot of trouble and then you're in a lot of trouble right so I can get lucky Alex Jones can right so I can get lucky Alex Jones can right so I can get lucky Alex Jones can get lucky it's me against Rogan is get lucky it's me against Rogan is get lucky it's me against Rogan is harder I like you if you said to me you harder I like you if you said to me you harder I like you if you said to me you don't have 8% don't have 8% don't have 8% chance um but Alex does okay I'm not chance um but Alex does okay I'm not chance um but Alex does okay I'm not going it's it's fine right so why would going it's it's fine right so why would going it's it's fine right so why would does Alex stand almost no chance he does Alex stand almost no chance he does Alex stand almost no chance he asked me so first of all it's not just asked me so first of all it's not just asked me so first of all it's not just because I'm big and he's big one I because I'm big and he's big one I because I'm big and he's big one I wrestled oh you wrestled yeah if you wrestled oh you wrestled yeah if you wrestled oh you wrestled yeah if you wrestled then you're like I watched this wrestled then you're like I watched this wrestled then you're like I watched this show with my kids physical 100 it's like show with my kids physical 100 it's like show with my kids physical 100 it's like a Korean show where they try to find out a Korean show where they try to find out a Korean show where they try to find out who's the best best athlete they have who's the best best athlete they have who's the best best athlete they have one thing where they have to wrestle one thing where they have to wrestle one thing where they have to wrestle away the ball and keep it this big giant away the ball and keep it this big giant away the ball and keep it this big giant ball I'm like every wrestler is going to ball I'm like every wrestler is going to ball I'm like every wrestler is going to win every MMA fighter is going to win win every MMA fighter is going to win win every MMA fighter is going to win and every time they win and they're like and every time they win and they're like and every time they win and they're like that how' you know that because we get that how' you know that because we get that how' you know that because we get trained we're not going to lose to a trained we're not going to lose to a trained we're not going to lose to a non- wrestler in a wrestling contest non- wrestler in a wrestling contest non- wrestler in a wrestling contest it's not going to happen right it's not going to happen right it's not going to happen right so you can get lucky but it's unlikely so you can get lucky but it's unlikely so you can get lucky but it's unlikely so one wrestling now that was from a so one wrestling now that was from a so one wrestling now that was from a long time ago but at least you know the long time ago but at least you know the long time ago but at least you know the mechanics right uh number two I've mechanics right uh number two I've mechanics right uh number two I've gotten into about 30 actual street gotten into about 30 actual street gotten into about 30 actual street fights in my life and you could say fights in my life and you could say fights in my life and you could say Street fight's not the same as MMA of Street fight's not the same as MMA of Street fight's not the same as MMA of course that's true obviously true right course that's true obviously true right course that's true obviously true right but it's not no experience it's some but it's not no experience it's some but it's not no experience it's some experience and the most important part experience and the most important part experience and the most important part of a street fight is being able to take of a street fight is being able to take of a street fight is being able to take a punch to the face okay yeah know what a punch to the face okay yeah know what a punch to the face okay yeah know what it feels like to get punched in the face it feels like to get punched in the face it feels like to get punched in the face yeah so I've been punched in the face I yeah so I've been punched in the face I yeah so I've been punched in the face I don't know does of times in my life I don't know does of times in my life I don't know does of times in my life I used to start fight by saying I'll let used to start fight by saying I'll let used to start fight by saying I'll let you take the first punch okay so I you take the first punch okay so I you take the first punch okay so I didn't start the fights they just didn't start the fights they just didn't start the fights they just started because they'd punched me in the started because they'd punched me in the started because they'd punched me in the face

face face okay so and then and for Alex the main okay so and then and for Alex the main okay so and then and for Alex the main thing and also true for Rogan is it's thing and also true for Rogan is it's thing and also true for Rogan is it's about willpower right so if you if if about willpower right so if you if if about willpower right so if you if if Joe has a 92% chance in my opinion of Joe has a 92% chance in my opinion of Joe has a 92% chance in my opinion of knocking me out or beating me because he knocking me out or beating me because he knocking me out or beating me because he has the skill and he's trained and he has the skill and he's trained and he has the skill and he's trained and he knows what he's doing so all the knows what he's doing so all the knows what he's doing so all the willpower in the world isn't going to willpower in the world isn't going to willpower in the world isn't going to help you if you get kicked upside the help you if you get kicked upside the help you if you get kicked upside the head right so but in the unlikely head right so but in the unlikely head right so but in the unlikely circumstances that I've worn him down circumstances that I've worn him down circumstances that I've worn him down right that I'm a little bit more in the right that I'm a little bit more in the right that I'm a little bit more in the ball game because I got willpower for ball game because I got willpower for ball game because I got willpower for Alex he does have the will power I have Alex he does have the will power I have Alex he does have the will power I have okay I'm because to me the idea of okay I'm because to me the idea of okay I'm because to me the idea of losing to Alex Jones is Unthinkable I losing to Alex Jones is Unthinkable I losing to Alex Jones is Unthinkable I would do anything not to lose anything would do anything not to lose anything would do anything not to lose anything let me just say so that's beautiful I let me just say so that's beautiful I let me just say so that's beautiful I love this and I I would pay a lot money love this and I I would pay a lot money love this and I I would pay a lot money to watch the two of you just even like to watch the two of you just even like to watch the two of you just even like wrestle but uh with Joe I wrestle but uh with Joe I wrestle but uh with Joe I think I just I I have to say it's like think I just I I have to say it's like think I just I I have to say it's like it's it's it's it's it's it's 0.001% chance you have a chance before 0.001% chance you have a chance before 0.001% chance you have a chance before you even get to the mentality and the you even get to the mentality and the you even get to the mentality and the other thing other thing other thing is on the mentality side one of the is on the mentality side one of the is on the mentality side one of the fascinating things about Joe is he's fascinating things about Joe is he's fascinating things about Joe is he's actually a sweetheart in person like actually a sweetheart in person like actually a sweetheart in person like this but there's something that takes this but there's something that takes this but there's something that takes over him when he competes brother we've over him when he competes brother we've over him when he competes brother we've been around 22 years in the toughest been around 22 years in the toughest been around 22 years in the toughest industry in the world right if you like industry in the world right if you like industry in the world right if you like you have any idea how hard it is to run you have any idea how hard it is to run you have any idea how hard it is to run a 75 person company and make money a 75 person company and make money a 75 person company and make money online and survive after all the guys online and survive after all the guys online and survive after all the guys who took billions of dollars went down I

who took billions of dollars went down I who took billions of dollars went down I hear you tremendous willpower so but hear you tremendous willpower so but hear you tremendous willpower so but overall you're I this is not the hill overall you're I this is not the hill overall you're I this is not the hill I'm dying on okay I Joe would win I get I'm dying on okay I Joe would win I get I'm dying on okay I Joe would win I get it I think we're all allowed one kind it I think we're all allowed one kind it I think we're all allowed one kind of um blind spot I suppose so you don't of um blind spot I suppose so you don't of um blind spot I suppose so you don't think a Hu a a big guy uh that still is think a Hu a a big guy uh that still is think a Hu a a big guy uh that still is in good shape that was a wrestler that's in good shape that was a wrestler that's in good shape that was a wrestler that's been in a lot of street fights you still been in a lot of street fights you still been in a lot of street fights you still think think think 01 it depends on street fights but yeah 01 it depends on street fights but yeah 01 it depends on street fights but yeah 0 Z1 I just see yeah and it's such a 0 Z1 I just see yeah and it's such a 0 Z1 I just see yeah and it's such a minute disagreement because so take me minute disagreement because so take me minute disagreement because so take me out of it so you take out the willpower out of it so you take out the willpower out of it so you take out the willpower part of blah blah blah I think it's one part of blah blah blah I think it's one part of blah blah blah I think it's one to two% yeah he could catch the guy on to two% yeah he could catch the guy on to two% yeah he could catch the guy on about you know get lucky I think it's about you know get lucky I think it's about you know get lucky I think it's because I've talked to so I trained with because I've talked to so I trained with because I've talked to so I trained with a coach named John Doner and we talk a coach named John Doner and we talk a coach named John Doner and we talk about this a lot and I think technique about this a lot and I think technique about this a lot and I think technique is just such is just such is just such technique is the thing that also feeds technique is the thing that also feeds technique is the thing that also feeds the willpower it actually builds up your the willpower it actually builds up your the willpower it actually builds up your confidence in the in a way that like confidence in the in a way that like confidence in the in a way that like nothing else nothing else nothing else does in the in the more actionable way does in the in the more actionable way does in the in the more actionable way because you won't need that much because you won't need that much because you won't need that much willpower no the if the technique is willpower no the if the technique is willpower no the if the technique is backed like you don't have to be like a backed like you don't have to be like a backed like you don't have to be like a tough guy to win debates if you're just tough guy to win debates if you're just tough guy to win debates if you're just good at debates right so I think good at debates right so I think good at debates right so I think people just don't understand the value people just don't understand the value people just don't understand the value in sport and especially in combat of in sport and especially in combat of in sport and especially in combat of Technique No I the are great ironers I Technique No I the are great ironers I Technique No I the are great ironers I actually totally agree with that that's actually totally agree with that that's actually totally agree with that that's why he mentioned the physical 100 why he mentioned the physical 100 why he mentioned the physical 100 technique is going to win every like technique is going to win every like technique is going to win every like almost every time we're having a debate almost every time we're having a debate almost every time we're having a debate about whether it's eight or one or 0.01

about whether it's eight or one or 0.01 about whether it's eight or one or 0.01 like it's either way technique wins we like it's either way technique wins we like it's either way technique wins we agree okay beautiful in the uh one of agree okay beautiful in the uh one of agree okay beautiful in the uh one of the controversial things you've the controversial things you've the controversial things you've done in the '90s as a student at upen done in the '90s as a student at upen done in the '90s as a student at upen you publicly denied the Armenian you publicly denied the Armenian you publicly denied the Armenian Genocide which is the mass murder of Genocide which is the mass murder of Genocide which is the mass murder of over a million Armenians in 1915 and 16 over a million Armenians in 1915 and 16 over a million Armenians in 1915 and 16 in the Ottoman Empire um you have since in the Ottoman Empire um you have since in the Ottoman Empire um you have since then publicly uh and clearly changed then publicly uh and clearly changed then publicly uh and clearly changed your mind on this um tell me the process your mind on this um tell me the process your mind on this um tell me the process you went through to change your you went through to change your you went through to change your mind yeah mind yeah mind yeah so when you're a kid you're taught a so when you're a kid you're taught a so when you're a kid you're taught a whole bunch of things that's the whole bunch of things that's the whole bunch of things that's the software that we talked about earlier software that we talked about earlier software that we talked about earlier right so cultural software is Media right so cultural software is Media right so cultural software is Media family friends uh social media Etc family friends uh social media Etc family friends uh social media Etc and so growing up in any tribe whether and so growing up in any tribe whether and so growing up in any tribe whether it's a religious tribe or an ethnic it's a religious tribe or an ethnic it's a religious tribe or an ethnic tribe you're going to get indoctrinated tribe you're going to get indoctrinated tribe you're going to get indoctrinated into that tribe's way of thinking so you into that tribe's way of thinking so you into that tribe's way of thinking so you take a Turkish person who's super take a Turkish person who's super take a Turkish person who's super Progressive loves Bernie believes with Progressive loves Bernie believes with Progressive loves Bernie believes with all their heart and peace and you tell all their heart and peace and you tell all their heart and peace and you tell them something about Kurds and they'll them something about Kurds and they'll them something about Kurds and they'll say oh no not those guys they're say oh no not those guys they're say oh no not those guys they're terrible and evil and we have to do what terrible and evil and we have to do what terrible and evil and we have to do what we do to them ah you see that's the we do to them ah you see that's the we do to them ah you see that's the tribe taking over right and so uh you tribe taking over right and so uh you tribe taking over right and so uh you tell any religious person what's wrong tell any religious person what's wrong tell any religious person what's wrong with the other religions they're like oh with the other religions they're like oh with the other religions they're like oh yeah yeah that's totally true you get to yeah yeah that's totally true you get to yeah yeah that's totally true you get to their religion tribe takes over no how their religion tribe takes over no how their religion tribe takes over no how dare you I'm offended right so I grew up dare you I'm offended right so I grew up dare you I'm offended right so I grew up with Turkish propaganda so uh I'll tell with Turkish propaganda so uh I'll tell with Turkish propaganda so uh I'll tell you a couple of funny instances of it

you a couple of funny instances of it you a couple of funny instances of it when we were kids we'd go Turkish when we were kids we'd go Turkish when we were kids we'd go Turkish American Day Parade I'm like 10 or 12 American Day Parade I'm like 10 or 12 American Day Parade I'm like 10 or 12 years old it's in the middle of New York years old it's in the middle of New York years old it's in the middle of New York because I grew up in Jersey that's why I because I grew up in Jersey that's why I because I grew up in Jersey that's why I got in all those fights got in all those fights got in all those fights uh and uh and we would chant in Turkish uh and uh and we would chant in Turkish uh and uh and we would chant in Turkish turkeyy is the biggest country there's turkeyy is the biggest country there's turkeyy is the biggest country there's no other country that's even big and I no other country that's even big and I no other country that's even big and I was like this is crazy I'm like Dad was like this is crazy I'm like Dad was like this is crazy I'm like Dad isn't this crazy America's big China's isn't this crazy America's big China's isn't this crazy America's big China's big why are we chanting this nonsensical big why are we chanting this nonsensical big why are we chanting this nonsensical chant right so that's the beginning of chant right so that's the beginning of chant right so that's the beginning of beginning to realize you're beginning to realize you're beginning to realize you're indoctrinated I'm in college and I read indoctrinated I'm in college and I read indoctrinated I'm in college and I read about some battle that the ottoman uh about some battle that the ottoman uh about some battle that the ottoman uh Empire lost and I'm like that can't be Empire lost and I'm like that can't be Empire lost and I'm like that can't be right uh the Turks have only lost one right uh the Turks have only lost one right uh the Turks have only lost one War World War I right and then I was War World War I right and then I was War World War I right and then I was like oh my god I'm an idiot I got taught like oh my god I'm an idiot I got taught like oh my god I'm an idiot I got taught that in third grade in Turkey of course that in third grade in Turkey of course that in third grade in Turkey of course that's not true that's ridiculously un that's not true that's ridiculously un that's not true that's ridiculously un true right all those thoughts are in true right all those thoughts are in true right all those thoughts are in your head you don't even realize and so your head you don't even realize and so your head you don't even realize and so on the Armenian Genocide I read the on the Armenian Genocide I read the on the Armenian Genocide I read the Turkish version and the Turkish version Turkish version and the Turkish version Turkish version and the Turkish version has all of these this evidence right so has all of these this evidence right so has all of these this evidence right so it's real in that it exists but here it's real in that it exists but here it's real in that it exists but here I'll give you a great example of it uh I I'll give you a great example of it uh I I'll give you a great example of it uh I think it was Colonel Chester he's some think it was Colonel Chester he's some think it was Colonel Chester he's some random American uh military guy after random American uh military guy after random American uh military guy after World War I and he says about the World War I and he says about the World War I and he says about the Armenians after the mass uh Armenians after the mass uh Armenians after the mass uh March the forc marches he says they March the forc marches he says they March the forc marches he says they return to the area fat and entirely return to the area fat and entirely return to the area fat and entirely unass okay I'm like hey that's an unass okay I'm like hey that's an unass okay I'm like hey that's an American Colonel that's saying that so American Colonel that's saying that so American Colonel that's saying that so that's obviously true you see that that's obviously true you see that that's obviously true you see that didn't happen right or at least in the didn't happen right or at least in the didn't happen right or at least in the way that the Armenians say now as a way that the Armenians say now as a way that the Armenians say now as a grown-up I look at it and I go are you

grown-up I look at it and I go are you grown-up I look at it and I go are you kidding me that guy's obviously trying kidding me that guy's obviously trying kidding me that guy's obviously trying to get a contract with the Turkish to get a contract with the Turkish to get a contract with the Turkish government right nobody returns from a government right nobody returns from a government right nobody returns from a force March fat and entirely unmarred force March fat and entirely unmarred force March fat and entirely unmarred right so that's propaganda and right so that's propaganda and right so that's propaganda and so it and that one was so indoctrinated so it and that one was so indoctrinated so it and that one was so indoctrinated that it was tough to let go so in at pen that it was tough to let go so in at pen that it was tough to let go so in at pen I write that oped Etc and then over the I write that oped Etc and then over the I write that oped Etc and then over the course of time and so Anna and I course of time and so Anna and I course of time and so Anna and I disagree on things from time to time and disagree on things from time to time and disagree on things from time to time and we've been co-hosting now for she's been we've been co-hosting now for she's been we've been co-hosting now for she's been at the Young tur for 18 years and at the Young tur for 18 years and at the Young tur for 18 years and co-hosting for you know almost 18 and so co-hosting for you know almost 18 and so co-hosting for you know almost 18 and so she's Armenian and by the way I love she's Armenian and by the way I love she's Armenian and by the way I love America I mean look at we came to America I mean look at we came to America I mean look at we came to America because we love this country America because we love this country America because we love this country Land of Hope and opportunity that's part Land of Hope and opportunity that's part Land of Hope and opportunity that's part of why I fight so hard for the average of why I fight so hard for the average of why I fight so hard for the average American for the American idea so here's American for the American idea so here's American for the American idea so here's a Turk and an Armenian doing a show a Turk and an Armenian doing a show a Turk and an Armenian doing a show together and it becomes the number one together and it becomes the number one together and it becomes the number one online news show that's the beauty of online news show that's the beauty of online news show that's the beauty of America right so she's telling me things America right so she's telling me things America right so she's telling me things and we're having some onair discussions and we're having some onair discussions and we're having some onair discussions about it Etc and then it just dawned on about it Etc and then it just dawned on about it Etc and then it just dawned on me like no this was this this too was me like no this was this this too was me like no this was this this too was obviously propaganda so at that point obviously propaganda so at that point obviously propaganda so at that point once you realize that it becomes easier once you realize that it becomes easier once you realize that it becomes easier that's why I'm trying to unplug people that's why I'm trying to unplug people that's why I'm trying to unplug people from The Matrix because once you realize from The Matrix because once you realize from The Matrix because once you realize it's propag aganda oh my God it gets it's propag aganda oh my God it gets it's propag aganda oh my God it gets infinitely easier to start telling infinitely easier to start telling infinitely easier to start telling what's true or not true so maybe by way what's true or not true so maybe by way what's true or not true so maybe by way of advice how do you know when you're of advice how do you know when you're of advice how do you know when you're deluded by Propaganda how do you know deluded by Propaganda how do you know deluded by Propaganda how do you know you're not believing a kind of uh how do you're not believing a kind of uh how do you're not believing a kind of uh how do you know when you're not plugged into you know when you're not plugged into you know when you're not plugged into the Matrix when you're plugged into the

the Matrix when you're plugged into the the Matrix when you're plugged into the Matrix you have to keep testing it Matrix you have to keep testing it Matrix you have to keep testing it against objective reality okay they said against objective reality okay they said against objective reality okay they said something did it happen or did it not something did it happen or did it not something did it happen or did it not happen so here here's an easy one Alex happen so here here's an easy one Alex happen so here here's an easy one Alex Jones for a long time especially under Jones for a long time especially under Jones for a long time especially under Obama kept saying going to put us on FEA Obama kept saying going to put us on FEA Obama kept saying going to put us on FEA camps tell they're going to stop us all camps tell they're going to stop us all camps tell they're going to stop us all in the FEA camps and they're going to in the FEA camps and they're going to in the FEA camps and they're going to put us in going to let us out and I know put us in going to let us out and I know put us in going to let us out and I know it I know it for sure right nobody's it I know it for sure right nobody's it I know it for sure right nobody's been in a FEMA camp Obama left there was been in a FEMA camp Obama left there was been in a FEMA camp Obama left there was no FEMA camps so what I ask like for the no FEMA camps so what I ask like for the no FEMA camps so what I ask like for the right-wing conspiracy guys guys has any right-wing conspiracy guys guys has any right-wing conspiracy guys guys has any of their things ever come true like they of their things ever come true like they of their things ever come true like they always say all these crazy things that always say all these crazy things that always say all these crazy things that never ever happen so the third time it never ever happen so the third time it never ever happen so the third time it doesn't happen can you please start to doesn't happen can you please start to doesn't happen can you please start to wonder maybe I'm on the wrong side maybe wonder maybe I'm on the wrong side maybe wonder maybe I'm on the wrong side maybe and but but that's not just for right and but but that's not just for right and but but that's not just for right Wingers that's easy right but it's also Wingers that's easy right but it's also Wingers that's easy right but it's also for mainstream media and that's where I for mainstream media and that's where I for mainstream media and that's where I get the biggest push back and that's get the biggest push back and that's get the biggest push back and that's where because my tribe is is what the where because my tribe is is what the where because my tribe is is what the kids call PMC professional management kids call PMC professional management kids call PMC professional management class okay they're careerist you go up class okay they're careerist you go up class okay they're careerist you go up the ladder you have this route that the ladder you have this route that the ladder you have this route that route route route Etc and so for that class the status quo Etc and so for that class the status quo Etc and so for that class the status quo is pretty good so when you get when is pretty good so when you get when is pretty good so when you get when Biden gives you 15% change you're like Biden gives you 15% change you're like Biden gives you 15% change you're like what else do youall want that's amazing what else do youall want that's amazing what else do youall want that's amazing he just course corrected a little bit he just course corrected a little bit he just course corrected a little bit now it's perfect right but for the now it's perfect right but for the now it's perfect right but for the average guy who needs a 100% change not average guy who needs a 100% change not average guy who needs a 100% change not 15 they look at it and and they go what 15 they look at it and and they go what 15 they look at it and and they go what the he only did 15% and everybody's the he only did 15% and everybody's the he only did 15% and everybody's declaring him a hero right so those are

declaring him a hero right so those are declaring him a hero right so those are the hardest guys to get through on and the hardest guys to get through on and the hardest guys to get through on and those are the guys who get most mad at those are the guys who get most mad at those are the guys who get most mad at me not the right-wingers The me not the right-wingers The me not the right-wingers The Establishment that's why I I'm Nails on Establishment that's why I I'm Nails on Establishment that's why I I'm Nails on a chalkboard for them because I'm on the a chalkboard for them because I'm on the a chalkboard for them because I'm on the left but I call out their crap and their left but I call out their crap and their left but I call out their crap and their marketing and propaganda and that's why marketing and propaganda and that's why marketing and propaganda and that's why I mentioned earlier no one probably not I mentioned earlier no one probably not I mentioned earlier no one probably not he might not even consciously know it he might not even consciously know it he might not even consciously know it but no one dislikes Bernie more than but no one dislikes Bernie more than but no one dislikes Bernie more than Obama because if Bernie got into office Obama because if Bernie got into office Obama because if Bernie got into office he'd embarrass Obama by doing a lot more he'd embarrass Obama by doing a lot more he'd embarrass Obama by doing a lot more change and Obama told us that change change and Obama told us that change change and Obama told us that change wasn't possible you could only get 5% wasn't possible you could only get 5% wasn't possible you could only get 5% and so if Bernie does 50% then Obama's and so if Bernie does 50% then Obama's and so if Bernie does 50% then Obama's humiliated and his record and his legacy humiliated and his record and his legacy humiliated and his record and his legacy is ruined right so he I don't think he is ruined right so he I don't think he is ruined right so he I don't think he makes that conscious decision right but makes that conscious decision right but makes that conscious decision right but it's subconscious it's a way of thinking it's subconscious it's a way of thinking it's subconscious it's a way of thinking so if you're watching Morning so if you're watching Morning so if you're watching Morning Joe test him he says something that Joe test him he says something that Joe test him he says something that Biden is for $15 minimum wage when Biden Biden is for $15 minimum wage when Biden Biden is for $15 minimum wage when Biden takes it out of the bill know that takes it out of the bill know that takes it out of the bill know that morning Joe was lying to you he says morning Joe was lying to you he says morning Joe was lying to you he says that Biden said he was for the public that Biden said he was for the public that Biden said he was for the public option but he never even proposed it option but he never even proposed it option but he never even proposed it when Morning Joe still defends him and when Morning Joe still defends him and when Morning Joe still defends him and and you see an objective reality Biden and you see an objective reality Biden and you see an objective reality Biden didn't actually propose that bill you didn't actually propose that bill you didn't actually propose that bill you know that they're lying to you test it know that they're lying to you test it know that they're lying to you test it against objective reality did it against objective reality did it against objective reality did it actually happen or didn't it I mean actually happen or didn't it I mean actually happen or didn't it I mean there's some of that just steal man some there's some of that just steal man some there's some of that just steal man some of the conspiracy theories do you think of the conspiracy theories do you think of the conspiracy theories do you think there's some value to the conspiracy there's some value to the conspiracy there's some value to the conspiracy theories uh that come from the right but theories uh that come from the right but theories uh that come from the right but actually more so come from the

actually more so come from the actually more so come from the anti-establishment so I mean for me one anti-establishment so I mean for me one anti-establishment so I mean for me one mean there's a lot that uh raise a bit mean there's a lot that uh raise a bit mean there's a lot that uh raise a bit of a question um a lot of them could of a question um a lot of them could of a question um a lot of them could probably be explained by corporatism and probably be explained by corporatism and probably be explained by corporatism and the military industrial complex uh but the military industrial complex uh but the military industrial complex uh but there's also a lot of them can be there's also a lot of them can be there's also a lot of them can be explained by creepiness and shadiness in explained by creepiness and shadiness in explained by creepiness and shadiness in human nature uh Epstein is an example of human nature uh Epstein is an example of human nature uh Epstein is an example of that there's a lot of ways to explain that there's a lot of ways to explain that there's a lot of ways to explain Epstein um including the basic creeping Epstein um including the basic creeping Epstein um including the basic creeping us a human us a human us a human nature um but there could be bigger nature um but there could be bigger nature um but there could be bigger explanations underlying it so sometimes explanations underlying it so sometimes explanations underlying it so sometimes when we have long thoughtful when we have long thoughtful when we have long thoughtful conversations like this I'll say it conversations like this I'll say it conversations like this I'll say it depends a lot yeah and then people get depends a lot yeah and then people get depends a lot yeah and then people get frustrated by that but then you're frustrated by that but then you're frustrated by that but then you're frustrated by the world cuz it depends frustrated by the world cuz it depends frustrated by the world cuz it depends so conspiracy theories if you say are so conspiracy theories if you say are so conspiracy theories if you say are they all right or are they all wrong they all right or are they all wrong they all right or are they all wrong already the question's wrong so it already the question's wrong so it already the question's wrong so it depends what is the conspiracy theory so depends what is the conspiracy theory so depends what is the conspiracy theory so if it's you know some of the Absurd ones if it's you know some of the Absurd ones if it's you know some of the Absurd ones we've mentioned here easily disproven we've mentioned here easily disproven we've mentioned here easily disproven right um on the other hand um there's a right um on the other hand um there's a right um on the other hand um there's a conspiracy theory uh about JFK's conspiracy theory uh about JFK's conspiracy theory uh about JFK's assassination which one's the conspiracy assassination which one's the conspiracy assassination which one's the conspiracy theory that Lee Harvey Oswald from like theory that Lee Harvey Oswald from like theory that Lee Harvey Oswald from like 12 miles away shot a Magic Bullet that 12 miles away shot a Magic Bullet that 12 miles away shot a Magic Bullet that went like this and hit like 13 people went like this and hit like 13 people went like this and hit like 13 people and came out Kennedy's brain or that the and came out Kennedy's brain or that the and came out Kennedy's brain or that the government might have wanted to cover up government might have wanted to cover up government might have wanted to cover up an assassination of the president for an assassination of the president for an assassination of the president for whatever reason okay come on now I'm of

whatever reason okay come on now I'm of whatever reason okay come on now I'm of course doing Hyperbole and like the JFK course doing Hyperbole and like the JFK course doing Hyperbole and like the JFK enthusiasts will be like no it did the enthusiasts will be like no it did the enthusiasts will be like no it did the bullet didn't actually go like this it bullet didn't actually go like this it bullet didn't actually go like this it didn't actually hit 13 people I'm I'm didn't actually hit 13 people I'm I'm didn't actually hit 13 people I'm I'm I'm kidding guys okay but in terms of is I'm kidding guys okay but in terms of is I'm kidding guys okay but in terms of is that conspiracy theory real that JFK was that conspiracy theory real that JFK was that conspiracy theory real that JFK was not just killed by Lee Harvey Oswalt not just killed by Lee Harvey Oswalt not just killed by Lee Harvey Oswalt almost certainly right uh and so if you almost certainly right uh and so if you almost certainly right uh and so if you read real books with tons of information read real books with tons of information read real books with tons of information the most likely culprit is Alan Dulles the most likely culprit is Alan Dulles the most likely culprit is Alan Dulles the head of the CIA that he fired back the head of the CIA that he fired back the head of the CIA that he fired back when there was a deep State there when there was a deep State there when there was a deep State there actually was a deep State they did coups actually was a deep State they did coups actually was a deep State they did coups against other country's leaders all the against other country's leaders all the against other country's leaders all the time but they tell us oh they wouldn't time but they tell us oh they wouldn't time but they tell us oh they wouldn't do it to our own do it to our own do it to our own leader but remember it's not the CIA he' leader but remember it's not the CIA he' leader but remember it's not the CIA he' left the CIA already right so he get you left the CIA already right so he get you left the CIA already right so he get you know so I don't know if it was excia know so I don't know if it was excia know so I don't know if it was excia guys I don't know if the mob was guys I don't know if the mob was guys I don't know if the mob was involved I don't know any of those involved I don't know any of those involved I don't know any of those details but I know some things that are details but I know some things that are details but I know some things that are obvious that bullet didn't magically hit obvious that bullet didn't magically hit obvious that bullet didn't magically hit him from over there as Jack Ruby killed him from over there as Jack Ruby killed him from over there as Jack Ruby killed Lee Harvey Oswald Jack Ruby was a Lee Harvey Oswald Jack Ruby was a Lee Harvey Oswald Jack Ruby was a mobster who on the record had said that mobster who on the record had said that mobster who on the record had said that he hated Kennedy all of a sudden he he hated Kennedy all of a sudden he he hated Kennedy all of a sudden he became patriotic overnight and shot the became patriotic overnight and shot the became patriotic overnight and shot the as salent who was unguarded maybe less as salent who was unguarded maybe less as salent who was unguarded maybe less likely okay so let's speed up though so likely okay so let's speed up though so likely okay so let's speed up though so my point is yeah some conspiracy my point is yeah some conspiracy my point is yeah some conspiracy theories could be true it depends on theories could be true it depends on theories could be true it depends on objective reality right you get to Epstein again I always do it ahead of Epstein again I always do it ahead of time because I want you to test me and time because I want you to test me and time because I want you to test me and see does it match objective reality so I

see does it match objective reality so I see does it match objective reality so I said the minute that it happened you'll said the minute that it happened you'll said the minute that it happened you'll have your answer based on whether the have your answer based on whether the have your answer based on whether the video in the hallway worked or not if video in the hallway worked or not if video in the hallway worked or not if the video in the hallway Works there'll the video in the hallway Works there'll the video in the hallway Works there'll be just as many consp iry theories but be just as many consp iry theories but be just as many consp iry theories but it'll show actually who went in and it'll show actually who went in and it'll show actually who went in and didn't go in okay but if the video in didn't go in okay but if the video in didn't go in okay but if the video in the hallway doesn't work they definitely the hallway doesn't work they definitely the hallway doesn't work they definitely killed him okay so a couple of days killed him okay so a couple of days killed him okay so a couple of days later oh the video in that particular later oh the video in that particular later oh the video in that particular hallway happened to not be working and hallway happened to not be working and hallway happened to not be working and the guards both happen to be on break at the guards both happen to be on break at the guards both happen to be on break at the same time and the most notorious the same time and the most notorious the same time and the most notorious pedophile criminal in the country pedophile criminal in the country pedophile criminal in the country happened to be unguarded and that is the happened to be unguarded and that is the happened to be unguarded and that is the one time he decided to hand himself one time he decided to hand himself one time he decided to hand himself listen man the only way you believe that listen man the only way you believe that listen man the only way you believe that is if you got mainstream media to get is if you got mainstream media to get is if you got mainstream media to get you to believe that the word that the you to believe that the word that the you to believe that the word that the minute the phrase conspiracy theory is minute the phrase conspiracy theory is minute the phrase conspiracy theory is mentioned you have to shut off your mind mentioned you have to shut off your mind mentioned you have to shut off your mind and you have to believe whatever the and you have to believe whatever the and you have to believe whatever the media tells you yeah well it's media tells you yeah well it's media tells you yeah well it's interesting you just mentioned do you interesting you just mentioned do you interesting you just mentioned do you think the CIA has not grown in power think the CIA has not grown in power think the CIA has not grown in power versus no no they've greatly waned in versus no no they've greatly waned in versus no no they've greatly waned in power interesting so so in the old days power interesting so so in the old days power interesting so so in the old days the CIA has an actual deep State and the CIA has an actual deep State and the CIA has an actual deep State and because the country was run by a bunch because the country was run by a bunch because the country was run by a bunch of families right so you go to Yale the of families right so you go to Yale the of families right so you go to Yale the Skull and Bones thing was real right and Skull and Bones thing was real right and Skull and Bones thing was real right and you go to Harvard you go and half the you go to Harvard you go and half the you go to Harvard you go and half the look at the dullas family right half of look at the dullas family right half of look at the dullas family right half of them go to government the other half go them go to government the other half go them go to government the other half go to banking uh why are the Central to banking uh why are the Central to banking uh why are the Central American countries called banana American countries called banana American countries called banana republics because we we America did a

republics because we we America did a republics because we we America did a coup against one of those countries coup against one of those countries coup against one of those countries because a banana company wanted it okay because a banana company wanted it okay because a banana company wanted it okay because they're like how dare you charge because they're like how dare you charge because they're like how dare you charge whatever you want for your natural whatever you want for your natural whatever you want for your natural natural resource we American natural resource we American natural resource we American corporations have the right to all of corporations have the right to all of corporations have the right to all of your natural resources at the lowest your natural resources at the lowest your natural resources at the lowest possible rate Allan Get rid of these possible rate Allan Get rid of these possible rate Allan Get rid of these guys okay and and Allan wood and guys okay and and Allan wood and guys okay and and Allan wood and so and sometimes they would go so and sometimes they would go so and sometimes they would go extrajudicial right like potentially extrajudicial right like potentially extrajudicial right like potentially with the JFK assassination so now and with the JFK assassination so now and with the JFK assassination so now and and by the way you pissed off Jed G and by the way you pissed off Jed G and by the way you pissed off Jed G Hoover he was just going to put a bullet Hoover he was just going to put a bullet Hoover he was just going to put a bullet in your head and we were done with you in your head and we were done with you in your head and we were done with you okay Fred Hampton among others so um but okay Fred Hampton among others so um but okay Fred Hampton among others so um but nowadays that's not how the world works nowadays that's not how the world works nowadays that's not how the world works so a small number of families cannot so a small number of families cannot so a small number of families cannot control a country and an economy this control a country and an economy this control a country and an economy this size new people pop up well Mark size new people pop up well Mark size new people pop up well Mark Zuckerberg wasn't part of those families Zuckerberg wasn't part of those families Zuckerberg wasn't part of those families Elon Musk wasn't part of those families Elon Musk wasn't part of those families Elon Musk wasn't part of those families neither was Bezos right for for you to neither was Bezos right for for you to neither was Bezos right for for you to believe those conspiracy theories you believe those conspiracy theories you believe those conspiracy theories you have to think that Bezos and musk Etc have to think that Bezos and musk Etc have to think that Bezos and musk Etc were like oh you guys are still running were like oh you guys are still running were like oh you guys are still running the country no problem go the country no problem go the country no problem go ahead not not going to do that right so ahead not not going to do that right so ahead not not going to do that right so now we've gotten into a system where now we've gotten into a system where now we've gotten into a system where it's the Invisible Hand of the market it's the Invisible Hand of the market it's the Invisible Hand of the market that runs the country but unfortunately that runs the country but unfortunately that runs the country but unfortunately it's for only for the powerful and so it's for only for the powerful and so it's for only for the powerful and so it's more of a machine and they don't do it's more of a machine and they don't do it's more of a machine and they don't do and this is super interesting and ties and this is super interesting and ties and this is super interesting and ties to what we were talking about earlier to what we were talking about earlier to what we were talking about earlier Alx which is that they don't do Alx which is that they don't do Alx which is that they don't do political assassinations anymore they do

political assassinations anymore they do political assassinations anymore they do character character character assassinations that's the needle in the assassinations that's the needle in the assassinations that's the needle in the hyack thing so and if you do an hyack thing so and if you do an hyack thing so and if you do an assassination of someone you build up assassination of someone you build up assassination of someone you build up their status they become a martyr and their status they become a martyr and their status they become a martyr and you build up their CA but if you do a you build up their CA but if you do a you build up their CA but if you do a character assassination you smear the character assassination you smear the character assassination you smear the cause with the person and the cause goes cause with the person and the cause goes cause with the person and the cause goes down not up so the market found a better down not up so the market found a better down not up so the market found a better way of getting rid of agitating way of getting rid of agitating way of getting rid of agitating Outsiders well that's you know one of Outsiders well that's you know one of Outsiders well that's you know one of the conspiracy theories with Epstein is the conspiracy theories with Epstein is the conspiracy theories with Epstein is that he's a front for like a I guess that he's a front for like a I guess that he's a front for like a I guess CIA and they're getting data on CIA and they're getting data on CIA and they're getting data on people like creepy people like creepy people like creepy pedophile kind of data to they they can pedophile kind of data to they they can pedophile kind of data to they they can use to then threatened character use to then threatened character use to then threatened character assassination and they they put them in assassination and they they put them in assassination and they they put them in this way put the people in their pockets this way put the people in their pockets this way put the people in their pockets so look we're not in on it so we there's so look we're not in on it so we there's so look we're not in on it so we there's no way we can know right but the I just no way we can know right but the I just no way we can know right but the I just always go back to logic always go back to logic always go back to logic so he has dirt on a lot of powerful so he has dirt on a lot of powerful so he has dirt on a lot of powerful people he dies in a way that is is an people he dies in a way that is is an people he dies in a way that is is an obvious murderer and not a obvious murderer and not a obvious murderer and not a suicide and then you begin to think who suicide and then you begin to think who suicide and then you begin to think who would have enough power to be able to would have enough power to be able to would have enough power to be able to get away with that crime and that is a get away with that crime and that is a get away with that crime and that is a very limited number of either people or very limited number of either people or very limited number of either people or governments right so that's probably governments right so that's probably governments right so that's probably your answer without knowing anything your answer without knowing anything your answer without knowing anything that's internal yeah that's crazy we

that's internal yeah that's crazy we that's internal yeah that's crazy we don't have the list of clients what is don't have the list of clients what is don't have the list of clients what is the best way to the best way to the best way to achieve stability and peace in Israel achieve stability and peace in Israel achieve stability and peace in Israel and Palestine and Palestine and Palestine in the current situation and uh in the in the current situation and uh in the in the current situation and uh in the next 5 10 next 5 10 next 5 10 years if people wanted to get to peace years if people wanted to get to peace years if people wanted to get to peace it's relatively straightforward there's it's relatively straightforward there's it's relatively straightforward there's already a deal the that was negotiated already a deal the that was negotiated already a deal the that was negotiated the Saudis agreed to it uh and they're the Saudis agreed to it uh and they're the Saudis agreed to it uh and they're an important uh player in this game uh an important uh player in this game uh an important uh player in this game uh the Palestinians and the Israelis have the Palestinians and the Israelis have the Palestinians and the Israelis have initially agreed to it even Hamas has initially agreed to it even Hamas has initially agreed to it even Hamas has kind of agreed to it that deal exists kind of agreed to it that deal exists kind of agreed to it that deal exists and it's just waiting on the Shelf to and it's just waiting on the Shelf to and it's just waiting on the Shelf to get done right and it's pretty get done right and it's pretty get done right and it's pretty straightforward Israel gets of the West straightforward Israel gets of the West straightforward Israel gets of the West Bank in Gaza Strip uh but they keep X Bank in Gaza Strip uh but they keep X Bank in Gaza Strip uh but they keep X percentage it used to be 4% then it went percentage it used to be 4% then it went percentage it used to be 4% then it went up to 6% it's probably a higher number up to 6% it's probably a higher number up to 6% it's probably a higher number now the Palestinians keep losing now the Palestinians keep losing now the Palestinians keep losing leverage as we go right so you remember leverage as we go right so you remember leverage as we go right so you remember how hard it was to get a deal on Ukraine how hard it was to get a deal on Ukraine how hard it was to get a deal on Ukraine I thought that's a very complicated one I thought that's a very complicated one I thought that's a very complicated one Israel is much more straightforward get Israel is much more straightforward get Israel is much more straightforward get the hell out of the occupying the hell out of the occupying the hell out of the occupying territories keep some of the god like territories keep some of the god like territories keep some of the god like those settlements are the worst thing those settlements are the worst thing those settlements are the worst thing they're cancer but anyway I don't know they're cancer but anyway I don't know they're cancer but anyway I don't know there's but there is an answer to the there's but there is an answer to the there's but there is an answer to the settlements and it's probably that settlements and it's probably that settlements and it's probably that Israel keeps them even though that Israel keeps them even though that Israel keeps them even though that drives me crazy no right of return for drives me crazy no right of return for drives me crazy no right of return for Palestinians there'll be symbolic right Palestinians there'll be symbolic right Palestinians there'll be symbolic right of return for a couple of families and of return for a couple of families and of return for a couple of families and so Palestinians go oh no way guys you so Palestinians go oh no way guys you so Palestinians go oh no way guys you have no leverage take the deal take the have no leverage take the deal take the have no leverage take the deal take the deal okay so you're not going to get a deal okay so you're not going to get a deal okay so you're not going to get a right of return Israel is not going to right of return Israel is not going to right of return Israel is not going to allow millions of Palestinians to go and allow millions of Palestinians to go and allow millions of Palestinians to go and vote in Israel it would end the Jewish vote in Israel it would end the Jewish vote in Israel it would end the Jewish State you have to get to a practical

State you have to get to a practical State you have to get to a practical solution so honestly the number one solution so honestly the number one solution so honestly the number one person blocking it now is than Yahoo person blocking it now is than Yahoo person blocking it now is than Yahoo it's not even that's obvious that's that it's not even that's obvious that's that it's not even that's obvious that's that doesn't take a lot of courage to say doesn't take a lot of courage to say doesn't take a lot of courage to say that he says publicly I don't want a that he says publicly I don't want a that he says publicly I don't want a Palestinian state I'm against a Palestinian state I'm against a Palestinian state I'm against a two-state solution he's been monstrous two-state solution he's been monstrous two-state solution he's been monstrous he's one of the worst terrorists of my he's one of the worst terrorists of my he's one of the worst terrorists of my lifetime um so that's easy the rightwing lifetime um so that's easy the rightwing lifetime um so that's easy the rightwing of Israel has lost its mind so the of Israel has lost its mind so the of Israel has lost its mind so the smotrich and the benir is openly talking smotrich and the benir is openly talking smotrich and the benir is openly talking about ethnic cleansing and driving them about ethnic cleansing and driving them about ethnic cleansing and driving them into other Arab countries uh Ian this is into other Arab countries uh Ian this is into other Arab countries uh Ian this is the definition of ethnic cleansing so the definition of ethnic cleansing so the definition of ethnic cleansing so but but but is is is like I know that the Arabs are going to like I know that the Arabs are going to like I know that the Arabs are going to take the deal the Saudi Arabia cannot take the deal the Saudi Arabia cannot take the deal the Saudi Arabia cannot wait to take the deal because they just wait to take the deal because they just wait to take the deal because they just want to get business going right you want to get business going right you want to get business going right you think Hamas takes the deal so I had have think Hamas takes the deal so I had have think Hamas takes the deal so I had have a solution where you don't need Hamas a solution where you don't need Hamas a solution where you don't need Hamas but yes Hamas would definitely take the but yes Hamas would definitely take the but yes Hamas would definitely take the deal Hamas already publicly said that deal Hamas already publicly said that deal Hamas already publicly said that they would even get rid of that Israel they would even get rid of that Israel they would even get rid of that Israel doesn't have a right to exist but our we doesn't have a right to exist but our we doesn't have a right to exist but our we there's so much propaganda and American there's so much propaganda and American there's so much propaganda and American Media it's maddening right so and this Media it's maddening right so and this Media it's maddening right so and this idea that you don't deal with Hamas is idea that you don't deal with Hamas is idea that you don't deal with Hamas is so dumb so the reason it's dumb is you so dumb so the reason it's dumb is you so dumb so the reason it's dumb is you don't negotiate with your friends you don't negotiate with your friends you don't negotiate with your friends you negotiate with your enemies well I don't negotiate with your enemies well I don't negotiate with your enemies well I don't want to negotiate with them I don't like want to negotiate with them I don't like want to negotiate with them I don't like them well then you're not going to get them well then you're not going to get them well then you're not going to get to peace right but still there is a path to peace right but still there is a path to peace right but still there is a path that doesn't include Hamas so make a that doesn't include Hamas so make a that doesn't include Hamas so make a deal with fat that runs the best West deal with fat that runs the best West deal with fat that runs the best West Bank then they get right now if F went

Bank then they get right now if F went Bank then they get right now if F went into Gaza Strip they wouldn't be able to into Gaza Strip they wouldn't be able to into Gaza Strip they wouldn't be able to manage because they don't have enough manage because they don't have enough manage because they don't have enough credibility they're mainly seen as in credibility they're mainly seen as in credibility they're mainly seen as in cahoots with the occupiers whereas Hamas cahoots with the occupiers whereas Hamas cahoots with the occupiers whereas Hamas is Hardcore and fighting against the is Hardcore and fighting against the is Hardcore and fighting against the occupiers but if fatan delivers a peace occupiers but if fatan delivers a peace occupiers but if fatan delivers a peace for not only a peace deal but a for not only a peace deal but a for not only a peace deal but a Palestinian State then they come in as Palestinian State then they come in as Palestinian State then they come in as Heroes so you make the deal with them Heroes so you make the deal with them Heroes so you make the deal with them you let them run the Gaza STP and you you let them run the Gaza STP and you you let them run the Gaza STP and you Empower them to drive out Hamas that way Empower them to drive out Hamas that way Empower them to drive out Hamas that way they do your dirty work for you in a they do your dirty work for you in a they do your dirty work for you in a sense right but good because Hamas is a sense right but good because Hamas is a sense right but good because Hamas is a terrorist organization they're not terrorist organization they're not terrorist organization they're not helpful and especially if the helpful and especially if the helpful and especially if the Palestinians get a state the violence Palestinians get a state the violence Palestinians get a state the violence has to stop immediately that's the whole has to stop immediately that's the whole has to stop immediately that's the whole point the trade is you get a state point the trade is you get a state point the trade is you get a state Israel gets safety and peace so no more Israel gets safety and peace so no more Israel gets safety and peace so no more rockets at Israel no more Rockets if you rockets at Israel no more Rockets if you rockets at Israel no more Rockets if you do any other Rockets when and Israel do any other Rockets when and Israel do any other Rockets when and Israel does the barbaric thing they just did does the barbaric thing they just did does the barbaric thing they just did even I would say hey brother we had a even I would say hey brother we had a even I would say hey brother we had a peace deal okay so if you violate a peace deal okay so if you violate a peace deal okay so if you violate a peace deal and you do a bomb they're peace deal and you do a bomb they're peace deal and you do a bomb they're going to do a bomb and their bomb is going to do a bomb and their bomb is going to do a bomb and their bomb is much larger okay so that and by the way much larger okay so that and by the way much larger okay so that and by the way can it work it already has worked Israel can it work it already has worked Israel can it work it already has worked Israel already did it with with Egypt so it already did it with with Egypt so it already did it with with Egypt so it Egypt was a 100 times Hamas Egypt Egypt was a 100 times Hamas Egypt Egypt was a 100 times Hamas Egypt gathered all the Arab armies and gathered all the Arab armies and gathered all the Arab armies and actually physically invaded Israel when actually physically invaded Israel when actually physically invaded Israel when Israel could lose and they did it Israel could lose and they did it Israel could lose and they did it several times and Lex at the time all several times and Lex at the time all several times and Lex at the time all not just the right like the the warhawks

not just the right like the the warhawks not just the right like the the warhawks but most people thought there's no way but most people thought there's no way but most people thought there's no way Egypt will keep that peace deal oh Egypt will keep that peace deal oh Egypt will keep that peace deal oh they're suckers we're giving back them they're suckers we're giving back them they're suckers we're giving back them the Sinai Peninsula back and then the Sinai Peninsula back and then the Sinai Peninsula back and then they're just going to keep bobbing and they're just going to keep bobbing and they're just going to keep bobbing and attacking us there hasn't been a single attacking us there hasn't been a single attacking us there hasn't been a single bomb from Egypt since the peace deal bomb from Egypt since the peace deal bomb from Egypt since the peace deal peace deals work War gets you more war peace deals work War gets you more war peace deals work War gets you more war peace deals get your peace and and if peace deals get your peace and and if peace deals get your peace and and if you should never this is true of all of you should never this is true of all of you should never this is true of all of life don't let the perfect be the enemy life don't let the perfect be the enemy life don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good so if you're saying well I'm of the good so if you're saying well I'm of the good so if you're saying well I'm not positive that a peace deal is going not positive that a peace deal is going not positive that a peace deal is going to be perfect and and 12 more Rockets to be perfect and and 12 more Rockets to be perfect and and 12 more Rockets might be fired well brother what's what might be fired well brother what's what might be fired well brother what's what do we have now right we have endless do we have now right we have endless do we have now right we have endless Rockets now if Israel is supposed to be Rockets now if Israel is supposed to be Rockets now if Israel is supposed to be a safe haven for Jews and I get it and I a safe haven for Jews and I get it and I a safe haven for Jews and I get it and I want it want it want it okay then become a safe haven the way okay then become a safe haven the way okay then become a safe haven the way that you're a safe haven is stop the that you're a safe haven is stop the that you're a safe haven is stop the occupation it's not complicated and and occupation it's not complicated and and occupation it's not complicated and and the reason they're not let's be honest the reason they're not let's be honest the reason they're not let's be honest the reason the right-wing government of the reason the right-wing government of the reason the right-wing government of Israel is not stopping the occupation is Israel is not stopping the occupation is Israel is not stopping the occupation is because they want to take more more land because they want to take more more land because they want to take more more land and so they have throughout time taken and so they have throughout time taken and so they have throughout time taken way more of the West Bank than they had way more of the West Bank than they had way more of the West Bank than they had originally and now nety who is saying I originally and now nety who is saying I originally and now nety who is saying I want a corridor at the in the middle of want a corridor at the in the middle of want a corridor at the in the middle of Gaza and I want a corridor at the border Gaza and I want a corridor at the border Gaza and I want a corridor at the border of Egypt now we're back to occupying of Egypt now we're back to occupying of Egypt now we're back to occupying Gaza physically let alone through Power Gaza physically let alone through Power Gaza physically let alone through Power and Etc so BB has to go definitely and Etc so BB has to go definitely and Etc so BB has to go definitely what's the role in you of us in making a

what's the role in you of us in making a what's the role in you of us in making a peace deal like that peace deal like that peace deal like that happen it it's going to sound outlandish happen it it's going to sound outlandish happen it it's going to sound outlandish but I can get you a ceasefire almost but I can get you a ceasefire almost but I can get you a ceasefire almost overnight if BB's gone and because the overnight if BB's gone and because the overnight if BB's gone and because the Israeli negotiators have said publicly Israeli negotiators have said publicly Israeli negotiators have said publicly pleasa not publicly got leaked and it pleasa not publicly got leaked and it pleasa not publicly got leaked and it was in the Israeli press you have to was in the Israeli press you have to was in the Israeli press you have to give us a little bit of wiggle room if give us a little bit of wiggle room if give us a little bit of wiggle room if you don't give us a little bit of wiggle you don't give us a little bit of wiggle you don't give us a little bit of wiggle room obviously they're not going to do room obviously they're not going to do room obviously they're not going to do the deal and he's like I know right the deal and he's like I know right the deal and he's like I know right that's why he's not giving them the that's why he's not giving them the that's why he's not giving them the wiggle room so don't ask for land in wiggle room so don't ask for land in wiggle room so don't ask for land in Gaza get the hell out of Gaza you Gaza get the hell out of Gaza you Gaza get the hell out of Gaza you ceasefire that's the easy part so the ceasefire that's the easy part so the ceasefire that's the easy part so the hard part is the occupation ending the hard part is the occupation ending the hard part is the occupation ending the occupation but even that I can get it to occupation but even that I can get it to occupation but even that I can get it to you in two months as long as Israel you in two months as long as Israel you in two months as long as Israel actually wants a deal so go to an actually wants a deal so go to an actually wants a deal so go to an election get rid of Netanyahu put in uh election get rid of Netanyahu put in uh election get rid of Netanyahu put in uh you know um Benny gance is Benny gance you know um Benny gance is Benny gance you know um Benny gance is Benny gance an angel no he's the one that ordered an angel no he's the one that ordered an angel no he's the one that ordered all the bombings of Gaza to begin with all the bombings of Gaza to begin with all the bombings of Gaza to begin with right he's look I Benny gance has got right he's look I Benny gance has got right he's look I Benny gance has got massive war crimes on his record so massive war crimes on his record so massive war crimes on his record so don't worry he's not a softy okay but don't worry he's not a softy okay but don't worry he's not a softy okay but he's not my favorite guy in the world to he's not my favorite guy in the world to he's not my favorite guy in the world to say the least but Benny gance can do a say the least but Benny gance can do a say the least but Benny gance can do a peace deal if he wants to so look only peace deal if he wants to so look only peace deal if he wants to so look only one group of people can actually settle one group of people can actually settle one group of people can actually settle this well there actually two groups of this well there actually two groups of this well there actually two groups of people one is the Israeli population you people one is the Israeli population you people one is the Israeli population you vote in someone who wants to do a peace vote in someone who wants to do a peace vote in someone who wants to do a peace deal you'll get a peace deal okay number deal you'll get a peace deal okay number deal you'll get a peace deal okay number two is the American president so if I'm two is the American president so if I'm two is the American president so if I'm the American president I'm saying a the American president I'm saying a the American president I'm saying a hypothetical right or any American

hypothetical right or any American hypothetical right or any American president that actually wants to get a president that actually wants to get a president that actually wants to get a peace deal peace deal peace deal done you just say I'm going to cut the done you just say I'm going to cut the done you just say I'm going to cut the funding Israel will do the deal funding Israel will do the deal funding Israel will do the deal immediately they don't say they want to immediately they don't say they want to immediately they don't say they want to cut the funding because APAC gives them cut the funding because APAC gives them cut the funding because APAC gives them $100 $100 $100 million it's not complicated not 1% million it's not complicated not 1% million it's not complicated not 1% complicated yeah so Lex tell me this complicated yeah so Lex tell me this complicated yeah so Lex tell me this okay so if the US president said uh I'm okay so if the US president said uh I'm okay so if the US president said uh I'm going to cut the funding do you think going to cut the funding do you think going to cut the funding do you think that it might have a giant problem for that it might have a giant problem for that it might have a giant problem for Netanyahu might it hurt his government Netanyahu might it hurt his government Netanyahu might it hurt his government might they have to go to an election might they have to go to an election might they have to go to an election would Israeli politicians let alone the would Israeli politicians let alone the would Israeli politicians let alone the population begin to really really worry population begin to really really worry population begin to really really worry that they're going to lose an enormous that they're going to lose an enormous that they're going to lose an enormous source of funding and source of funding and source of funding and weapons yeah absolutely absolutely so weapons yeah absolutely absolutely so weapons yeah absolutely absolutely so why wouldn't we use our leverage it's why wouldn't we use our leverage it's why wouldn't we use our leverage it's crazy not to use our crazy not to use our crazy not to use our leverage yeah uh and this is where we go leverage yeah uh and this is where we go leverage yeah uh and this is where we go back to the Steel Man of trump it feels back to the Steel Man of trump it feels back to the Steel Man of trump it feels like he's the only one crazy enough to like he's the only one crazy enough to like he's the only one crazy enough to to use that leverage by crazy I mean in to use that leverage by crazy I mean in to use that leverage by crazy I mean in a good kind of sense bold enough not a good kind of sense bold enough not a good kind of sense bold enough not giving a about convention not giving a about convention not giving a about convention not giving a about pressures and money giving a about pressures and money giving a about pressures and money and influence and all that kind of stuff and influence and all that kind of stuff and influence and all that kind of stuff yes but with the biggest asteris in the yes but with the biggest asteris in the yes but with the biggest asteris in the history of the world which is 12% chance history of the world which is 12% chance history of the world which is 12% chance he does that and that's great but a huge he does that and that's great but a huge he does that and that's great but a huge chance he does the opposite and he goes chance he does the opposite and he goes chance he does the opposite and he goes let's call it 80 again 80% oh yeah let's call it 80 again 80% oh yeah let's call it 80 again 80% oh yeah Miriam wanted me to give Israel to West Miriam wanted me to give Israel to West Miriam wanted me to give Israel to West Bank to Israel so you have it guys now Bank to Israel so you have it guys now Bank to Israel so you have it guys now you just occupy the whole thing forever you just occupy the whole thing forever you just occupy the whole thing forever okay giant War oh yeah I'm going to okay giant War oh yeah I'm going to okay giant War oh yeah I'm going to prove how tough I am I'm going to Nuke prove how tough I am I'm going to Nuke prove how tough I am I'm going to Nuke Iran oh no what are you doing what are

Iran oh no what are you doing what are Iran oh no what are you doing what are you doing like it's Trump is a massive you doing like it's Trump is a massive you doing like it's Trump is a massive risk he's an enormous amount of risk if risk he's an enormous amount of risk if risk he's an enormous amount of risk if you were running a company and not a you were running a company and not a you were running a company and not a country would you hire Trump as your CEO country would you hire Trump as your CEO country would you hire Trump as your CEO everyone watching just screamed inside everyone watching just screamed inside everyone watching just screamed inside their heads their heads their heads no okay you would never they take that no okay you would never they take that no okay you would never they take that kind of risk with your company you got kind of risk with your company you got kind of risk with your company you got an 80% chance the guy's going to blow up an 80% chance the guy's going to blow up an 80% chance the guy's going to blow up the company you're no way no way and you the company you're no way no way and you the company you're no way no way and you know it too if you're especially if know it too if you're especially if know it too if you're especially if you're a businessman you know you're not you're a businessman you know you're not you're a businessman you know you're not going to hire that Loose Cannon to run going to hire that Loose Cannon to run going to hire that Loose Cannon to run your company it's it's unacceptable risk your company it's it's unacceptable risk your company it's it's unacceptable risk but you're not wrong we talked about it but you're not wrong we talked about it but you're not wrong we talked about it earlier but as part of that risk there's earlier but as part of that risk there's earlier but as part of that risk there's a sliver in there that he could a sliver in there that he could a sliver in there that he could accidentally do the right thing we accidentally do the right thing we accidentally do the right thing we talked a lot about Hope in this talked a lot about Hope in this talked a lot about Hope in this conversation zooming out what gives you conversation zooming out what gives you conversation zooming out what gives you hope about the future of this whole hope about the future of this whole hope about the future of this whole thing of humanity not just the United thing of humanity not just the United thing of humanity not just the United States of us humans on Earth so why am I States of us humans on Earth so why am I States of us humans on Earth so why am I Center left and not center right it gets Center left and not center right it gets Center left and not center right it gets to that question so you look at the to that question so you look at the to that question so you look at the polling not just here in America but in polling not just here in America but in polling not just here in America but in almost any country and it almost always almost any country and it almost always almost any country and it almost always breaks out to 2/3 1/3 right 2/3 the of breaks out to 2/3 1/3 right 2/3 the of breaks out to 2/3 1/3 right 2/3 the of the people say let's be empathetic let's the people say let's be empathetic let's the people say let's be empathetic let's share let's be let's do equality Justice share let's be let's do equality Justice share let's be let's do equality Justice let's be fair right one third goes no me let's be fair right one third goes no me let's be fair right one third goes no me me me me me me me me me okay that's just me me me me me me me me okay that's just me me me me me me me me okay that's just the nature of humanity and so and the nature of humanity and so and the nature of humanity and so and usually the same third goes no change usually the same third goes no change usually the same third goes no change and the other two-thirds go well some and the other two-thirds go well some and the other two-thirds go well some change right change right change right so because if you don't do any change

so because if you don't do any change so because if you don't do any change you're you're never going to get to the you're you're never going to get to the you're you're never going to get to the right answer for the wisdom of the crowd right answer for the wisdom of the crowd right answer for the wisdom of the crowd to work for free markets to work for to work for free markets to work for to work for free markets to work for everything to work you have to keep everything to work you have to keep everything to work you have to keep changing because the times change and changing because the times change and changing because the times change and the culture changes and the situation the culture changes and the situation the culture changes and the situation changes right so that's why there's changes right so that's why there's changes right so that's why there's amendments in the Constitution because amendments in the Constitution because amendments in the Constitution because you need to be able to change the you need to be able to change the you need to be able to change the document from time to time be careful document from time to time be careful document from time to time be careful with it right but you need to allow for with it right but you need to allow for with it right but you need to allow for an Avenue for change so now why does the an Avenue for change so now why does the an Avenue for change so now why does the one-third keep winning so many different one-third keep winning so many different one-third keep winning so many different places because they have more money and places because they have more money and places because they have more money and power and by the way if you're more power and by the way if you're more power and by the way if you're more selfish you're more likely to get more selfish you're more likely to get more selfish you're more likely to get more money in power right and I wish that money in power right and I wish that money in power right and I wish that weren't the case but it is and these are weren't the case but it is and these are weren't the case but it is and these are not blanket rules they're on average so not blanket rules they're on average so not blanket rules they're on average so that third winds up winning in so many that third winds up winning in so many that third winds up winning in so many circumstances but the bottom line is we circumstances but the bottom line is we circumstances but the bottom line is we are a species that requires are a species that requires are a species that requires consent consent consent so I I mean I'm A Stone Cold atheist so so I I mean I'm A Stone Cold atheist so so I I mean I'm A Stone Cold atheist so uh so I don't think we're kind of like uh so I don't think we're kind of like uh so I don't think we're kind of like apes I think we are Apes okay and so and apes I think we are Apes okay and so and apes I think we are Apes okay and so and all the scientists out there are going all the scientists out there are going all the scientists out there are going well of course we are everyone else is well of course we are everyone else is well of course we are everyone else is going that's crazy okay so when you look going that's crazy okay so when you look going that's crazy okay so when you look at it as a species different species at it as a species different species at it as a species different species react in different ways snakes have no react in different ways snakes have no react in different ways snakes have no empathy because it's not in their DNA empathy because it's not in their DNA empathy because it's not in their DNA they and that's why we have a a sense of they and that's why we have a a sense of they and that's why we have a a sense of what a snake does right so for good news what a snake does right so for good news what a snake does right so for good news is for higher level Apes like us bonobos is for higher level Apes like us bonobos is for higher level Apes like us bonobos chimpanzees and humans we all roughly

chimpanzees and humans we all roughly chimpanzees and humans we all roughly want consent so a chimpanzee for example want consent so a chimpanzee for example want consent so a chimpanzee for example is has a violent uh you know reputation is has a violent uh you know reputation is has a violent uh you know reputation and they are violent and unfortunately and they are violent and unfortunately and they are violent and unfortunately we're pretty close to them uh but what we're pretty close to them uh but what we're pretty close to them uh but what people don't know is a leader doesn't people don't know is a leader doesn't people don't know is a leader doesn't win through violence especially for win through violence especially for win through violence especially for bonobos they Le they win by picking lice bonobos they Le they win by picking lice bonobos they Le they win by picking lice off of other chimpanzees by going and off of other chimpanzees by going and off of other chimpanzees by going and doing favors going to a hunt getting doing favors going to a hunt getting doing favors going to a hunt getting food and giving it to someone else food and giving it to someone else food and giving it to someone else because what they're Gathering is the because what they're Gathering is the because what they're Gathering is the consent of the Govern and that's how you consent of the Govern and that's how you consent of the Govern and that's how you become the alpha you don't do it through become the alpha you don't do it through become the alpha you don't do it through physical dominance you do through physical dominance you do through physical dominance you do through consent so that's how we're hardwired consent so that's how we're hardwired consent so that's how we're hardwired that's in our DNA that two-thirds in the that's in our DNA that two-thirds in the that's in our DNA that two-thirds in the long run will win and that and we will long run will win and that and we will long run will win and that and we will have empathy we will have change and have empathy we will have change and have empathy we will have change and that's the hope that we're all looking that's the hope that we're all looking that's the hope that we're all looking for Hope has got the numbers it seems for Hope has got the numbers it seems for Hope has got the numbers it seems like yeah and in fact one more more like yeah and in fact one more more like yeah and in fact one more more thing Lex yes look at thing Lex yes look at thing Lex yes look at history hope and change always win and history hope and change always win and history hope and change always win and so again conservatives don't catch so again conservatives don't catch so again conservatives don't catch feelings there's a need for feelings there's a need for feelings there's a need for conservatives because you have to conservatives because you have to conservatives because you have to balance things out if you just had even balance things out if you just had even balance things out if you just had even though wonderful 2/3 that still wouldn't though wonderful 2/3 that still wouldn't though wonderful 2/3 that still wouldn't be the ideal system you need you need a be the ideal system you need you need a be the ideal system you need you need a Winston Churchill if you're in the Winston Churchill if you're in the Winston Churchill if you're in the middle of World War II you need someone middle of World War II you need someone middle of World War II you need someone to say regulating you know six to say regulating you know six to say regulating you know six inspections of the elevators is too many inspections of the elevators is too many inspections of the elevators is too many right so you need that balance and right so you need that balance and right so you need that balance and conservatives have a role and it's a conservatives have a role and it's a conservatives have a role and it's a really important role but having said really important role but having said really important role but having said that they're assigned to losing

that they're assigned to losing that they're assigned to losing throughout history because they're throughout history because they're throughout history because they're fighting on losing ground a conservative fighting on losing ground a conservative fighting on losing ground a conservative says no change but the world is says no change but the world is says no change but the world is constantly changing so they're destined constantly changing so they're destined constantly changing so they're destined to lose that's why the founding fathers to lose that's why the founding fathers to lose that's why the founding fathers won against the British Monarchy that's won against the British Monarchy that's won against the British Monarchy that's why the Civil Rights Movement won they why the Civil Rights Movement won they why the Civil Rights Movement won they didn't win overnight it took them a didn't win overnight it took them a didn't win overnight it took them a hundred years to get equal rights let hundred years to get equal rights let hundred years to get equal rights let alone past slavery right so we want on alone past slavery right so we want on alone past slavery right so we want on women's rights we want on gay rights we women's rights we want on gay rights we women's rights we want on gay rights we keep winning but every snapshot in in keep winning but every snapshot in in keep winning but every snapshot in in time makes it feel like we're losing time makes it feel like we're losing time makes it feel like we're losing there's a bad guy in charge we are't there's a bad guy in charge we are't there's a bad guy in charge we are't living under corporate rule Etc but in living under corporate rule Etc but in living under corporate rule Etc but in the long tide of History change Always the long tide of History change Always the long tide of History change Always Wins so the Wins so the Wins so the empathetic generally speaking leftwing empathetic generally speaking leftwing empathetic generally speaking leftwing but again don't worry about the the but again don't worry about the the but again don't worry about the the titles right people get obsessed with titles right people get obsessed with titles right people get obsessed with the labels the 2third that's empathetic the labels the 2third that's empathetic the labels the 2third that's empathetic that includes a lot of right right that includes a lot of right right that includes a lot of right right Wingers right you win at the end in Wingers right you win at the end in Wingers right you win at the end in history every single time so we fight history every single time so we fight history every single time so we fight forward we we we're tough when we need forward we we we're tough when we need forward we we we're tough when we need to be we need that willpower to win any to be we need that willpower to win any to be we need that willpower to win any fight right but we're civil and fight right but we're civil and fight right but we're civil and respectful to the other sign because respectful to the other sign because respectful to the other sign because they are us so progressives all the time they are us so progressives all the time they are us so progressives all the time we say look and I this is like the we say look and I this is like the we say look and I this is like the ending of my book which is we for ending of my book which is we for ending of my book which is we for conservatives you have a lot of empathy conservatives you have a lot of empathy conservatives you have a lot of empathy for in inside the wagons so for in inside the wagons so for in inside the wagons so conservatives are great to their family conservatives are great to their family conservatives are great to their family generally speaking to their Community to generally speaking to their Community to generally speaking to their Community to their Church to anyone that's inside the

their Church to anyone that's inside the their Church to anyone that's inside the wagons but they have they set up wagons but they have they set up wagons but they have they set up electric fences and Barb Wire around electric fences and Barb Wire around electric fences and Barb Wire around their wagons so if you're on the outside their wagons so if you're on the outside their wagons so if you're on the outside you're the others and you're going to you're the others and you're going to you're the others and you're going to get electrified and it's get electrified and it's get electrified and it's constantly right and so I like to think constantly right and so I like to think constantly right and so I like to think the left wing has wider W wagons so we the left wing has wider W wagons so we the left wing has wider W wagons so we view the world as more us and not you view the world as more us and not you view the world as more us and not you but the good news is that is if we win but the good news is that is if we win but the good news is that is if we win we're not going to do Medicare for only we're not going to do Medicare for only we're not going to do Medicare for only the left right we're going to do the left right we're going to do the left right we're going to do Medicare for all you're all going to get Medicare for all you're all going to get Medicare for all you're all going to get Universal Health Care we're going to do Universal Health Care we're going to do Universal Health Care we're going to do higher wages for all the rightwing is higher wages for all the rightwing is higher wages for all the rightwing is not going to be left out and if we're not going to be left out and if we're not going to be left out and if we're and Lex I'm GNA tell you a fun story and Lex I'm GNA tell you a fun story and Lex I'm GNA tell you a fun story it's it's about my it's it's about my it's it's about my family and and I'm sure that parts of it family and and I'm sure that parts of it family and and I'm sure that parts of it are apocryphal from because it's from are apocryphal from because it's from are apocryphal from because it's from like 500 years ago um but like 500 years ago um but like 500 years ago um but uh but it gives you a sense of the the uh but it gives you a sense of the the uh but it gives you a sense of the the old Mark Twain quote if it's really Mark old Mark Twain quote if it's really Mark old Mark Twain quote if it's really Mark Twain's of change happens really Twain's of change happens really Twain's of change happens really gradually and then all of a sudden gradually and then all of a sudden gradually and then all of a sudden so my mom's last name in Turkish is so my mom's last name in Turkish is so my mom's last name in Turkish is Yasha it means slowly it's a weird name Yasha it means slowly it's a weird name Yasha it means slowly it's a weird name even in Turkish and so one day we're even in Turkish and so one day we're even in Turkish and so one day we're walking past the mosque in Istanbul when walking past the mosque in Istanbul when walking past the mosque in Istanbul when I'm a kid and it says on the mosque yasa I'm a kid and it says on the mosque yasa I'm a kid and it says on the mosque yasa we're like what is this okay so it's a we're like what is this okay so it's a we're like what is this okay so it's a small little mosque we go inside and my small little mosque we go inside and my small little mosque we go inside and my dad starts asking their mom questions dad starts asking their mom questions dad starts asking their mom questions okay so he says why is the why is the

okay so he says why is the why is the okay so he says why is the why is the Moss name that and he said do you don't Moss name that and he said do you don't Moss name that and he said do you don't know and he because my dad said my M my know and he because my dad said my M my know and he because my dad said my M my wife's name is last name is Yash he's wife's name is last name is Yash he's wife's name is last name is Yash he's like oh my God and he's like your like oh my God and he's like your like oh my God and he's like your ancestor was the admiral of the Ottoman ancestor was the admiral of the Ottoman ancestor was the admiral of the Ottoman Navy when they conquered Navy when they conquered Navy when they conquered Constantinople okay so Grandpa Constantinople okay so Grandpa Constantinople okay so Grandpa from 5 600 years ago came out with the from 5 600 years ago came out with the from 5 600 years ago came out with the idea so you can't ever conquer idea so you can't ever conquer idea so you can't ever conquer Constantinople because there's a giant Constantinople because there's a giant Constantinople because there's a giant chain in the underneath the Bosphorus chain in the underneath the Bosphorus chain in the underneath the Bosphorus all the ships get stuck on the Chain all the ships get stuck on the Chain all the ships get stuck on the Chain there's cannons on both sides half the there's cannons on both sides half the there's cannons on both sides half the ancient navies in the world are at the ancient navies in the world are at the ancient navies in the world are at the bottom of the Bosphorus right so hasn't bottom of the Bosphorus right so hasn't bottom of the Bosphorus right so hasn't been conquered in over a thousand years been conquered in over a thousand years been conquered in over a thousand years nobody thinks it can to be conquered nobody thinks it can to be conquered nobody thinks it can to be conquered Grandpa comes up with the idea of why Grandpa comes up with the idea of why Grandpa comes up with the idea of why don't we build giant wooden planks over don't we build giant wooden planks over don't we build giant wooden planks over land and grease them and pass our Fleet land and grease them and pass our Fleet land and grease them and pass our Fleet over land onto the the other side over land onto the the other side over land onto the the other side everybody goes because whenever anybody everybody goes because whenever anybody everybody goes because whenever anybody proposes a new idea no matter how proposes a new idea no matter how proposes a new idea no matter how logical it is they go oh it's impossible logical it is they go oh it's impossible logical it is they go oh it's impossible no way it's going to work oh you're no way it's going to work oh you're no way it's going to work oh you're crazy this is unconquerable City what crazy this is unconquerable City what crazy this is unconquerable City what are you guys even doing every day me at are you guys even doing every day me at are you guys even doing every day me at the Conqueror comes up to Grandpa and the Conqueror comes up to Grandpa and the Conqueror comes up to Grandpa and says all right how's your plan to do says all right how's your plan to do says all right how's your plan to do this project going and grandpa says slowly and he names him Commander slowly slowly and he names him Commander slowly yeah and one night after the whole yeah and one night after the whole yeah and one night after the whole thing's done they pass the entire a thing's done they pass the entire a thing's done they pass the entire a Fleet over the land wind up in the Fleet over the land wind up in the Fleet over the land wind up in the middle of the Bosphorus and the Holy middle of the Bosphorus and the Holy middle of the Bosphorus and the Holy Roman Empire concedes they surrender

Roman Empire concedes they surrender Roman Empire concedes they surrender because change happens really gradually because change happens really gradually because change happens really gradually and then all of a sudden good story well and then all of a sudden good story well and then all of a sudden good story well Jen thank you for fighting for that Jen thank you for fighting for that Jen thank you for fighting for that change for many years now for over two change for many years now for over two change for many years now for over two decades now and uh thank you for talking decades now and uh thank you for talking decades now and uh thank you for talking today appreciate it leex thank you for today appreciate it leex thank you for today appreciate it leex thank you for having the having the having the conversation thanks for listening to conversation thanks for listening to conversation thanks for listening to this conversation with Jen Huger to this conversation with Jen Huger to this conversation with Jen Huger to support this podcast please check out support this podcast please check out support this podcast please check out our sponsors in the description and now our sponsors in the description and now our sponsors in the description and now let me leave you with some words from let me leave you with some words from let me leave you with some words from Hana Hana Hana end totalitarianism is never content to end totalitarianism is never content to end totalitarianism is never content to rule by external means namely through rule by external means namely through rule by external means namely through the state and a Machinery of the state and a Machinery of the state and a Machinery of violence thanks to its peculiar ideology violence thanks to its peculiar ideology violence thanks to its peculiar ideology and the role assigned to it in the and the role assigned to it in the and the role assigned to it in the apparatus of coercion totalitarianism apparatus of coercion totalitarianism apparatus of coercion totalitarianism has discovered a means of dominating and has discovered a means of dominating and has discovered a means of dominating and terrorizing human beings from terrorizing human beings from terrorizing human beings from within thank you for listening and hope within thank you for listening and hope within thank you for listening and hope to see you next time