🐧 Linux - Age Verification Drama

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GK, hello there. GK, hello there. Jose also from Twitch. Hey, thanks for Jose also from Twitch. Hey, thanks for Jose also from Twitch. Hey, thanks for the support, man. That's cool. Yeah, so actually this was the Yeah, so actually this was the GK, you are actually number one. Keep it GK, you are actually number one. Keep it GK, you are actually number one. Keep it up, man. up, man. up, man. Um Twitch. I was going to say something Twitch. I was going to say something about yesterday, but I don't remember. All right. Well, All right. Well, we are officially past starting time we are officially past starting time we are officially past starting time now. We have 51 people who tuned in, so now. We have 51 people who tuned in, so now. We have 51 people who tuned in, so welcome everybody. Let's get this party welcome everybody. Let's get this party welcome everybody. Let's get this party started. started. started. What we're going to do is we're going to What we're going to do is we're going to What we're going to do is we're going to look into look into look into something that has been on my feed.

something that has been on my feed. something that has been on my feed. If we go for Linux age If we go for Linux age If we go for Linux age verification. And wow, look at this YouTube homepage. And wow, look at this YouTube homepage. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Drew it's >> Drew it's >> Drew it's uh uh uh 90s guy talking about stem cells breath 90s guy talking about stem cells breath 90s guy talking about stem cells breath work, Schubert, work, Schubert, work, Schubert, jungle, jungle, jungle, Diablo 2 muscular guy, Diablo 2 muscular guy, Diablo 2 muscular guy, lots of bearded guys. So, you always see lots of bearded guys. So, you always see lots of bearded guys. So, you always see there's always something you can get there's always something you can get there's always something you can get from someone's YouTube home feed. from someone's YouTube home feed. from someone's YouTube home feed. Uh but I want to what I was going to Uh but I want to what I was going to Uh but I want to what I was going to show you is the Linux age verification. show you is the Linux age verification. show you is the Linux age verification. So, Brody, he has already done a video So, Brody, he has already done a video So, Brody, he has already done a video on this and I watched this video on this and I watched this video on this and I watched this video recently. recently. recently. And actually here's And actually here's And actually here's my brother. He looks almost exactly the my brother. He looks almost exactly the my brother. He looks almost exactly the same as me. this one. Okay, so here are a few this one. Okay, so here are a few videos. I I I don't think that I can videos. I I I don't think that I can videos. I I I don't think that I can watch videos together with you.

watch videos together with you. watch videos together with you. I'm not sure if that would work, but let I'm not sure if that would work, but let I'm not sure if that would work, but let me just try. If I just me just try. If I just me just try. If I just play this. Like, do you even hear that sound? I've Like, do you even hear that sound? I've no idea if that's possible. Okay, so this doesn't play the audio, Okay, so this doesn't play the audio, unfortunately. unfortunately. unfortunately. But But But what we can do is I can just share these what we can do is I can just share these what we can do is I can just share these these links with you these links with you these links with you in the notes. So, let me see. We can in the notes. So, let me see. We can in the notes. So, let me see. We can Linux or age verification. So, this session is is So, this session is is going to be almost like a sort of going to be almost like a sort of going to be almost like a sort of co-researching session, but I've co-researching session, but I've co-researching session, but I've apparently apparently apparently some legislation has come out in America some legislation has come out in America some legislation has come out in America that that that um forces operating system providers.

um forces operating system providers. um forces operating system providers. Here. Well, actually this is already Here. Well, actually this is already Here. Well, actually this is already this sums it up nicely. this sums it up nicely. this sums it up nicely. So, this is a new law. For example, this was This is in For example, this was This is in Colorado. Colorado. Colorado. And requirements for operating system And requirements for operating system And requirements for operating system providers and developers. So, an providers and developers. So, an providers and developers. So, an operating system provider shall do the operating system provider shall do the operating system provider shall do the following: Provide an accessible following: Provide an accessible following: Provide an accessible interface at account setup interface at account setup interface at account setup that requires an account holder to that requires an account holder to that requires an account holder to indicate the birth date or age of the indicate the birth date or age of the indicate the birth date or age of the user user user of that device of that device of that device for the purpose of providing an age for the purpose of providing an age for the purpose of providing an age signal to applications available in a signal to applications available in a signal to applications available in a covered application store. And this is to provide a developer that And this is to provide a developer that requests an age signal with respect to a requests an age signal with respect to a requests an age signal with respect to a particular user the technical ability to particular user the technical ability to particular user the technical ability to to call an age signal via reasonably to call an age signal via reasonably to call an age signal via reasonably consistent real-time application API. consistent real-time application API. consistent real-time application API. So, So, So, what they're basically doing is they're what they're basically doing is they're what they're basically doing is they're making tech companies making tech companies making tech companies um that provide operating systems, they um that provide operating systems, they um that provide operating systems, they make you fill out your age so that if make you fill out your age so that if make you fill out your age so that if you download software, you download software, you download software, then like application stores can verify then like application stores can verify then like application stores can verify what your age is. This is how I what your age is. This is how I what your age is. This is how I understand it.

understand it. understand it. And yeah, this is basically what we're And yeah, this is basically what we're And yeah, this is basically what we're going to be researching right now, what going to be researching right now, what going to be researching right now, what this means, this means, this means, if this is actually a problem or not, if this is actually a problem or not, if this is actually a problem or not, and what this means for us Linux users. and what this means for us Linux users. and what this means for us Linux users. Because that's the thing, Because that's the thing, Because that's the thing, the there are multiple distributions who the there are multiple distributions who the there are multiple distributions who have already implemented this, have already implemented this, have already implemented this, but I don't even know what that looks but I don't even know what that looks but I don't even know what that looks like. So, I'm I'm literally just like. So, I'm I'm literally just like. So, I'm I'm literally just researching this as we go. researching this as we go. researching this as we go. But if some people have um done it But if some people have um done it But if some people have um done it already, already, already, the um if you have any knowledge about the um if you have any knowledge about the um if you have any knowledge about this, please um this, please um this, please um share that in the chat. Hi from Argentina. Hello. Yeah, your bro Hi from Argentina. Hello. Yeah, your bro actually looks like you. Are you twins? actually looks like you. Are you twins? actually looks like you. Are you twins? Yeah, right. He he could be my twin, Yeah, right. He he could be my twin, Yeah, right. He he could be my twin, actually. Facebook meta has been paying for these Facebook meta has been paying for these laws. Yeah. laws. Yeah. laws. Yeah. Brazil is the only one that is currently Brazil is the only one that is currently Brazil is the only one that is currently enforced. Okay.

enforced. Okay. enforced. Okay. Yeah, so California, Colorado, and New Yeah, so California, Colorado, and New Yeah, so California, Colorado, and New York have laws in the pipeline. So, York have laws in the pipeline. So, York have laws in the pipeline. So, there are many more many things here. there are many more many things here. there are many more many things here. So, let's just start with this So, let's just start with this So, let's just start with this uh uh uh image. Uh Uh hold on. hold on. hold on. Here. Okay. And for researching, I actually Okay. And for researching, I actually like to use Grok these days. like to use Grok these days. like to use Grok these days. But before I do that, I want to stop sharing. stop sharing. And I will just And I will just And I will just set up my AI prompts here. Like I don't want to Like I don't want to dox all of the chats that I have dox all of the chats that I have dox all of the chats that I have running, cuz that is actually quite a running, cuz that is actually quite a running, cuz that is actually quite a private private private thing to expose.

See if that works. See if that works. Okay. All right, so that works. Then we can go All right, so that works. Then we can go to Perplexity. And for good measure, we'll just do And for good measure, we'll just do Claude as well. Okay. Claude as well. Okay. Claude as well. Okay. So, What we're going to start with is first What we're going to start with is first uh uh uh asking transcribe this. I mean, look how fast Grok is. Like this I mean, look how fast Grok is. Like this is pretty crazy. Grok is I mean, I'm I'm I'm always testing out I mean, I'm I'm I'm always testing out different models, different things, but different models, different things, but different models, different things, but I and I have Grok basically for free or I and I have Grok basically for free or I and I have Grok basically for free or included because I have a paid X included because I have a paid X included because I have a paid X account.

account. account. And And And this um So, I I'm always just trying this out, So, I I'm always just trying this out, too. But the great thing about Grok is too. But the great thing about Grok is too. But the great thing about Grok is that it can actually access X. that it can actually access X. that it can actually access X. So, we're going to be utilizing that, So, we're going to be utilizing that, So, we're going to be utilizing that, but let's just start with the notes but let's just start with the notes but let's just start with the notes here. here. here. So, note uh the law So, note uh the law So, note uh the law transcribed from the video. Yeah, look Look how fast that is. This Yeah, look Look how fast that is. This is crazy. is crazy. is crazy. Okay. Okay. Okay. So, it already got the So, it already got the So, it already got the the the the the the the law here. So, it's in Colorado state, law here. So, it's in Colorado state, law here. So, it's in Colorado state, apparently.

Yeah, so this is my This is basically Yeah, so this is my This is basically meant to regulate Apple, meant to regulate Apple, meant to regulate Apple, Android, and Microsoft Android, and Microsoft Android, and Microsoft because because because like I don't know I'm not a lawyer or like I don't know I'm not a lawyer or like I don't know I'm not a lawyer or anything like that, but I think the anything like that, but I think the anything like that, but I think the origin of this origin of this origin of this is is is so that people so that people so that people like they can then force people to um like they can then force people to um like they can then force people to um like especially for mobile phones and like especially for mobile phones and like especially for mobile phones and MacBooks, etc., MacBooks, etc., MacBooks, etc., they can then force people to give their they can then force people to give their they can then force people to give their age age age so that you cannot download certain apps so that you cannot download certain apps so that you cannot download certain apps from the app stores, right? But from the app stores, right? But from the app stores, right? But not taking into account Linux, which is not taking into account Linux, which is not taking into account Linux, which is a completely free and open operating a completely free and open operating a completely free and open operating system. So, system. So, system. So, Linux basically Linux basically Linux basically kind of becomes this um kind of becomes this um kind of becomes this um odd beast here odd beast here odd beast here that may not be It should not even be that may not be It should not even be that may not be It should not even be covered by this law, right? But as we covered by this law, right? But as we covered by this law, right? But as we will see, we have already seen will see, we have already seen will see, we have already seen multiple distros actually going for it multiple distros actually going for it multiple distros actually going for it just to be sure. just to be sure. just to be sure. So, uh the bill is introduced early So, uh the bill is introduced early So, uh the bill is introduced early 2026.

It has not yet been enacted into law. It It has not yet been enacted into law. It is still progressing through the is still progressing through the is still progressing through the legislative process. legislative process. legislative process. Okay. Context and similar laws is modeled Context and similar laws is modeled closely after Okay. Yeah. closely after Okay. Yeah. closely after Okay. Yeah. They Oh, sorry. In California, it's They Oh, sorry. In California, it's They Oh, sorry. In California, it's already actually already actually already actually um enforced or um enforced or um enforced or in law. Both aim to push the age up at the Both aim to push the age up at the station upstream to ice providers and station upstream to ice providers and station upstream to ice providers and app stores instead of pre-app checks. app stores instead of pre-app checks. app stores instead of pre-app checks. Per app checks. Per app checks. Per app checks. There's been significant discussion There's been significant discussion There's been significant discussion concern in tech open source communities concern in tech open source communities concern in tech open source communities of potential impacts open source of potential impacts open source of potential impacts open source operating systems. operating systems. operating systems. Um Um Um yes, okay. So, we will can use this chat yes, okay. So, we will can use this chat yes, okay. So, we will can use this chat as uh deeper as uh deeper as uh deeper context. And let's see if someone in the chat has And let's see if someone in the chat has already shared already shared already shared uh uh uh California, New York have laws in the California, New York have laws in the California, New York have laws in the pipeline. Yeah, okay. Yeah.

pipeline. Yeah, okay. Yeah. pipeline. Yeah, okay. Yeah. I think UK already implemented age I think UK already implemented age I think UK already implemented age verification. SystemD systems will roll out these age SystemD systems will roll out these age verifications be as first. Okay, so verifications be as first. Okay, so verifications be as first. Okay, so there's F definitely there's F definitely there's F definitely a few questions that we're going to be a few questions that we're going to be a few questions that we're going to be uh uh uh answering here. So, what is the answering here. So, what is the answering here. So, what is the relationship between SystemD and age relationship between SystemD and age relationship between SystemD and age verification? Uh that's a good one. Uh that's a good one. Work Work Work Red Hat Red Hat Red Hat wants to use the Apple systems for it. wants to use the Apple systems for it. wants to use the Apple systems for it. It will apply to all operating systems. It will apply to all operating systems. It will apply to all operating systems. Malicious compliance turn off the Malicious compliance turn off the Malicious compliance turn off the network kit when the law kicks in network kit when the law kicks in network kit when the law kicks in because the operating system does not because the operating system does not because the operating system does not have the age verification API. Yeah, have the age verification API. Yeah, have the age verification API. Yeah, exactly. Torvalds is a commie. Torvalds is a commie. No, the bill passes, but still not in No, the bill passes, but still not in No, the bill passes, but still not in effect in California. Okay. They may not know as to how to enforce They may not know as to how to enforce it beyond certain OS. Yeah, so how would it beyond certain OS. Yeah, so how would it beyond certain OS. Yeah, so how would this How would this Well, I mean, it's like it's not even a Well, I mean, it's like it's not even a um um um question of how will this be enforced, question of how will this be enforced, question of how will this be enforced, but let me see, the Linux response. So, but let me see, the Linux response. So, but let me see, the Linux response. So, actually, we will have to actually, we will have to actually, we will have to uh uh uh let's see. If I open up a let's see. If I open up a let's see. If I open up a new chat,

new chat, new chat, yeah, let's just use Grok for now. yeah, let's just use Grok for now. yeah, let's just use Grok for now. Um Which distros have implement What? Which distros have implement What? First, provide a summary of this video. So, we will have to So, we will have to look a little bit into that. The UK's look a little bit into that. The UK's look a little bit into that. The UK's [clears throat] [clears throat] [clears throat] online safety act. What is that?

Protects children and adults online, Protects children and adults online, puts a range of new duties on social puts a range of new duties on social puts a range of new duties on social media companies and search services, media companies and search services, media companies and search services, giving them legal duties to provide giving them legal duties to provide giving them legal duties to provide their users from illegal content and their users from illegal content and their users from illegal content and content harmful to children. content harmful to children. content harmful to children. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah, so it's about age restriction on Yeah, so it's about age restriction on Yeah, so it's about age restriction on electronic devices. But, this it like it this specifically But, this it like it this specifically mentions social media companies and mentions social media companies and mentions social media companies and search services, right? So, search services, right? So, search services, right? So, like I'm like I'm like I'm I'm a bit annoyed that this then I'm a bit annoyed that this then I'm a bit annoyed that this then has to extend to operating systems. has to extend to operating systems. has to extend to operating systems. That is the the thing here. That is the the thing here. That is the the thing here. Um Um Um like like like I can see a reason why you would want to I can see a reason why you would want to I can see a reason why you would want to verify your age for social media. Like I verify your age for social media. Like I verify your age for social media. Like I don't I don't actually see anything don't I don't actually see anything don't I don't actually see anything wrong with that. wrong with that. wrong with that. What do you guys think? Like is there What do you guys think? Like is there What do you guys think? Like is there anything wrong anything wrong anything wrong for for for like setting the operating system aside, like setting the operating system aside, like setting the operating system aside, but but but what do you think about social media social media platforms needing age verification?

platforms needing age verification? platforms needing age verification? I mean, I think that might be a good I mean, I think that might be a good I mean, I think that might be a good thing. Like if you are on Instagram if you are on Instagram and and and Meta can pull out all the men Meta can pull out all the men Meta can pull out all the men who exclusively have who exclusively have who exclusively have contact with girls between age 12 and contact with girls between age 12 and contact with girls between age 12 and 16. 16. 16. Like you can pretty easily pull out all Like you can pretty easily pull out all Like you can pretty easily pull out all of the pedophiles from there, right? of the pedophiles from there, right? of the pedophiles from there, right? Like would you say that it is a bad Like would you say that it is a bad Like would you say that it is a bad thing? thing? thing? And And And you can also filter like there's so much you can also filter like there's so much you can also filter like there's so much garbage on social media. garbage on social media. garbage on social media. Like if I would have a child, what would Like if I would have a child, what would Like if I would have a child, what would I want? Would I want that to be age I want? Would I want that to be age I want? Would I want that to be age controlled? controlled? controlled? Like I've never really thought about Like I've never really thought about Like I've never really thought about this because this because this because I grew up with a free and open internet. I grew up with a free and open internet. I grew up with a free and open internet. And I have had many experiences where I And I have had many experiences where I And I have had many experiences where I was exposed to stuff that I shouldn't was exposed to stuff that I shouldn't was exposed to stuff that I shouldn't have seen. have seen. have seen. Anybody remember rotten.com?

Age verification be done application Age verification be done application level. Yeah, right. Yeah, the law is level. Yeah, right. Yeah, the law is level. Yeah, right. Yeah, the law is good in favor safety of children as far good in favor safety of children as far good in favor safety of children as far as social media, but for OS, yeah, as social media, but for OS, yeah, as social media, but for OS, yeah, that's right. Entering a birthday is one thing, but Entering a birthday is one thing, but how is it verified or checked? I could how is it verified or checked? I could how is it verified or checked? I could put in any date. put in any date. put in any date. It is probably um you probably will have It is probably um you probably will have It is probably um you probably will have to provide to provide to provide um um um identification identification identification in that case. in that case. in that case. But, as you say, yes, you could put in But, as you say, yes, you could put in But, as you say, yes, you could put in any date. any date. any date. And I think And I think And I think like we'll get into how this is actually like we'll get into how this is actually like we'll get into how this is actually going to work, but how going to work, but how going to work, but how Yeah, so how how would this even be Yeah, so how how would this even be Yeah, so how how would this even be enforced? How enforced? How enforced? How how would you Like Like is this like maybe this is just a system is this like maybe this is just a system is this like maybe this is just a system administration thing. Like is this admin thing? So, because when you create admin thing? So, because when you create a user account on Linux a user account on Linux a user account on Linux like there's this old school like there's this old school like there's this old school um way of prompting the user for um way of prompting the user for um way of prompting the user for creating a user account.

creating a user account. creating a user account. And it will it will ask for like your And it will it will ask for like your And it will it will ask for like your name, your team, name, your team, name, your team, uh your company, all that kind of stuff. uh your company, all that kind of stuff. uh your company, all that kind of stuff. So, maybe the there's just going to be a So, maybe the there's just going to be a So, maybe the there's just going to be a question about age and that's it. question about age and that's it. question about age and that's it. Um the add a age question. add a age question. So, we'll see how that is going to be So, we'll see how that is going to be So, we'll see how that is going to be implemented. implemented. implemented. But, let's just on the philosophical But, let's just on the philosophical But, let's just on the philosophical side uh think about side uh think about side uh think about um I have websites ask me to scan IDs um I have websites ask me to scan IDs um I have websites ask me to scan IDs here. Yeah. here. Yeah. here. Yeah. Lively AKA after gore. Yeah, right. Lively AKA after gore. Yeah, right. Lively AKA after gore. Yeah, right. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> So, like I I will tell you a couple stories. like I I will tell you a couple stories. Like I when I when I was younger, like Like I when I when I was younger, like Like I when I when I was younger, like my parents had no idea about the my parents had no idea about the my parents had no idea about the internet. internet. internet. They they had no idea about computers. I They they had no idea about computers. I They they had no idea about computers. I literally had a computer in my room um literally had a computer in my room um literally had a computer in my room um when I was 12 years old with free access when I was 12 years old with free access when I was 12 years old with free access to the internet.

to the internet. to the internet. And And And uh uh uh Who here remembers Napster or Kazaa, Who here remembers Napster or Kazaa, Who here remembers Napster or Kazaa, right? These softwares where you could right? These softwares where you could right? These softwares where you could download music. download music. download music. Well, I was uh I used to download Well, I was uh I used to download Well, I was uh I used to download uh music videos. I was very much into uh music videos. I was very much into uh music videos. I was very much into metal metal metal music, right? music, right? music, right? So, I would download these 360p So, I would download these 360p So, I would download these 360p um um um uh metal music videos and uh metal music videos and uh metal music videos and these these these what would happen I I distinctly what would happen I I distinctly what would happen I I distinctly remember this. What happened was there remember this. What happened was there remember this. What happened was there was a Metallica video, a video clip of a was a Metallica video, a video clip of a was a Metallica video, a video clip of a Metallica song that I downloaded. Metallica song that I downloaded. Metallica song that I downloaded. And I downloaded the song the video And I downloaded the song the video And I downloaded the song the video clip, the song. clip, the song. clip, the song. And when I opened the file, And when I opened the file, And when I opened the file, what I saw was a a man lying on the what I saw was a a man lying on the what I saw was a a man lying on the ground like this. ground like this. ground like this. And then someone put his boot on his And then someone put his boot on his And then someone put his boot on his face. face. face. And then this huge knife came into the And then this huge knife came into the And then this huge knife came into the screen and started just sawing this screen and started just sawing this screen and started just sawing this man's head off.

man's head off. man's head off. Like I can still see that image in front Like I can still see that image in front Like I can still see that image in front of me. There was the sound of me. There was the sound of me. There was the sound him just dying, and all the blood him just dying, and all the blood him just dying, and all the blood everywhere. everywhere. everywhere. And I was 12, 13 years old. And I was 12, 13 years old. And I was 12, 13 years old. And I don't have a visual memory, but And I don't have a visual memory, but And I don't have a visual memory, but that image I can still see it. that image I can still see it. that image I can still see it. And that actually And that actually And that actually um um um You've seen that video, too. Yeah, You've seen that video, too. Yeah, You've seen that video, too. Yeah, right? right? right? So, So, So, I was like 12 years old when I saw that. I was like 12 years old when I saw that. I was like 12 years old when I saw that. And I it was a Metallica video. That was the I it was a Metallica video. That was the title. And that happened so many times. title. And that happened so many times. title. And that happened so many times. Like that kind of stuff where you would Like that kind of stuff where you would Like that kind of stuff where you would download something and see something download something and see something download something and see something like that or people being shot. It It like that or people being shot. It It like that or people being shot. It It happened all the time. happened all the time. happened all the time. And then And then And then uh uh uh then the game became like who can find then the game became like who can find then the game became like who can find the goriest website? the goriest website? the goriest website? So, it's not healthy, but when I was So, it's not healthy, but when I was So, it's not healthy, but when I was like 15 or so, me and my cousins and my like 15 or so, me and my cousins and my like 15 or so, me and my cousins and my friends friends friends we would be sitting around oh, did you we would be sitting around oh, did you we would be sitting around oh, did you see that picture on rotten.com? And did see that picture on rotten.com? And did see that picture on rotten.com? And did you see this gore video?

you see this gore video? you see this gore video? Like that is not healthy for teenagers Like that is not healthy for teenagers Like that is not healthy for teenagers to see, right? So, to see, right? So, to see, right? So, like if I had a kid, like if I had a kid, like if I had a kid, I would I would be okay with censorship I would I would be okay with censorship I would I would be okay with censorship on the internet so that my my my kids on the internet so that my my my kids on the internet so that my my my kids wouldn't see that on social media, for wouldn't see that on social media, for wouldn't see that on social media, for example. example. example. In any case, my kids wouldn't have In any case, my kids wouldn't have In any case, my kids wouldn't have access to social media anyway, period. access to social media anyway, period. access to social media anyway, period. But, as someone said here, teenagers are But, as someone said here, teenagers are But, as someone said here, teenagers are always going to find a way around it always going to find a way around it always going to find a way around it anyway. So, anyway. So, anyway. So, Ooh. Yeah, it it's um Ooh. Yeah, it it's um Ooh. Yeah, it it's um I like speaking from my own experience, I like speaking from my own experience, I like speaking from my own experience, I can say that I was definitely exposed I can say that I was definitely exposed I can say that I was definitely exposed to things that I shouldn't have been to things that I shouldn't have been to things that I shouldn't have been exposed to as a kid teenager on the exposed to as a kid teenager on the exposed to as a kid teenager on the internet. internet. internet. >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> So, I'm speaking from a >> So, I'm speaking from a >> So, I'm speaking from a from a personal perspective here. Just from a personal perspective here. Just from a personal perspective here. Just to be be clear. I'm not being dogmatic to be be clear. I'm not being dogmatic to be be clear. I'm not being dogmatic or something like that. You have a 15-year-old kid. You can't You have a 15-year-old kid. You can't stop teenagers. Yeah, okay.

stop teenagers. Yeah, okay. stop teenagers. Yeah, okay. Only terminal till you're 18. Yeah, Only terminal till you're 18. Yeah, Only terminal till you're 18. Yeah, right. That's the that's the fix. right. That's the that's the fix. right. That's the that's the fix. Just Ubuntu server. Just Ubuntu server. Just Ubuntu server. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Uh well, yeah. So, Uh well, yeah. So, Uh well, yeah. So, okay, but that's social media. So, this okay, but that's social media. So, this okay, but that's social media. So, this is then the origin of this Okay. Okay. Uh the law originated from the UK safety act. from the UK safety act. Yeah. So, it's about child safety. Cool. So, it's about child safety. Cool. So, there's the California law. So, there's the California law. So, there's the California law. Yeah. Brazil start enacting it. Yeah. Brazil start enacting it. Yeah. Brazil start enacting it. Now, the challenges for Linux Now, the challenges for Linux Now, the challenges for Linux assumes a central OS provider. assumes a central OS provider. assumes a central OS provider. Yeah, that's the issue, right? Because Yeah, that's the issue, right? Because Yeah, that's the issue, right? Because they're think they're doing this for they're think they're doing this for they're think they're doing this for Microsoft, Apple, and Google. They're Microsoft, Apple, and Google. They're Microsoft, Apple, and Google. They're not like targeting Linux with this. It not like targeting Linux with this. It not like targeting Linux with this. It just happens that this also falls under just happens that this also falls under just happens that this also falls under it. it. it. >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> So, they didn't really think about that >> So, they didn't really think about that >> So, they didn't really think about that when creating the law.

Um potential response from Linux Um potential response from Linux distros, so compliance. distros, so compliance. distros, so compliance. Yeah. So, which which ones So, which which ones of the main distros of the main distros of the main distros have already implemented have already implemented have already implemented this? this? this? Search X Search X Search X and internet and think deeply. So, cool thing about Grok is that it has So, cool thing about Grok is that it has this multi-agent stuff built in. this multi-agent stuff built in. this multi-agent stuff built in. So, it will launch multiple agents that So, it will launch multiple agents that So, it will launch multiple agents that are now going to search and talk to each are now going to search and talk to each are now going to search and talk to each other. other. other. Which is pretty cool. And the best thing about X is or or And the best thing about X is or or about Grok is that it has about Grok is that it has about Grok is that it has access to X, which which arguably is the access to X, which which arguably is the access to X, which which arguably is the late is the live feed of the tech late is the live feed of the tech late is the live feed of the tech industry, period.

So, as this is running, so this was the So, as this is running, so this was the first video. first video. first video. Now, there was another video. Now, there was another video. Now, there was another video. Um Um Um here. Okay, Slackware says no, but Fedora Okay, Slackware says no, but Fedora Linux says yes. And as we are Linux says yes. And as we are Linux says yes. And as we are uh uh uh as we are watching or as we are as we are watching or as we are as we are watching or as we are streaming here, streaming here, streaming here, I am running this on Fedora Linux. I am running this on Fedora Linux. I am running this on Fedora Linux. So, I'm running I'm running Linux Linux Linux and uh Fedora. So, if this becomes a and uh Fedora. So, if this becomes a and uh Fedora. So, if this becomes a thing for my setup or my OS, I'll have thing for my setup or my OS, I'll have thing for my setup or my OS, I'll have to like decide whether I I want to share to like decide whether I I want to share to like decide whether I I want to share my age or not. my age or not. my age or not. And I don't really have necessarily an And I don't really have necessarily an And I don't really have necessarily an issue with sharing my age, to be honest. issue with sharing my age, to be honest. issue with sharing my age, to be honest. Like, I'm I'm all about privacy. Like, I'm I'm all about privacy. Like, I'm I'm all about privacy. But, But, But, it depends on at what level that age is it depends on at what level that age is it depends on at what level that age is shared, right? shared, right? shared, right? So, So, So, if it's just literally something I can if it's just literally something I can if it's just literally something I can have to fill out, but that's the that have to fill out, but that's the that have to fill out, but that's the that we'll see about that how this is we'll see about that how this is we'll see about that how this is actually going to be implemented. But, actually going to be implemented. But, actually going to be implemented. But, like from what I see in the law text, like from what I see in the law text, like from what I see in the law text, it's about providing a signal to an app it's about providing a signal to an app it's about providing a signal to an app store. Well, there is no app store in in store. Well, there is no app store in in store. Well, there is no app store in in Linux. So, Linux. So, Linux. So, well, okay. So, this guy, he has been well, okay. So, this guy, he has been well, okay. So, this guy, he has been the Lunduke Journal.

the Lunduke Journal. the Lunduke Journal. I I saw if I did I deliberately didn't I I saw if I did I deliberately didn't I I saw if I did I deliberately didn't go into this yet because I wanted to do go into this yet because I wanted to do go into this yet because I wanted to do this live. this live. this live. But, he has been But, he has been But, he has been talking a lot about this talking a lot about this talking a lot about this um recently. um recently. um recently. Uh Midnight Uh Midnight Uh Midnight Okay, Midnight BSD becomes first open Okay, Midnight BSD becomes first open Okay, Midnight BSD becomes first open source operating system to ship age source operating system to ship age source operating system to ship age verification. verification. verification. So, they already did it, apparently. So, they already did it, apparently. So, they already did it, apparently. So, so he is he is basically becoming So, so he is he is basically becoming So, so he is he is basically becoming the the the um um um latest source of latest news on this. Uh Uh Okay, so Catch OS. Slackware says no. Slackware says no. Let's see. Systemd forks to remove age Systemd forks to remove age verification. Wow, there are a couple of verification. Wow, there are a couple of verification. Wow, there are a couple of Arch Linux says opposing age Arch Linux says opposing age Arch Linux says opposing age verification is code of conduct conduct verification is code of conduct conduct verification is code of conduct conduct violation.

violation. violation. Okay, so he has been talking a lot about Okay, so he has been talking a lot about Okay, so he has been talking a lot about this this this for a while already. for a while already. for a while already. So, let's just see what X is going to So, let's just see what X is going to So, let's just see what X is going to tell us now. tell us now. tell us now. Or Grok, I should say. So, as of 5th of April, none of the main So, as of 5th of April, none of the main Linux distributions have implemented it. Canonical is reviewing it right now. Canonical is reviewing it right now. Pop!_OS, no implementation. CEO is critical of it, okay. CEO is critical of it, okay. Fedora, no implementation. Active Fedora, no implementation. Active Fedora, no implementation. Active community community community discussions. discussions. discussions. Okay, but Okay, but Okay, but let's then check let's then check let's then check um Yeah.

Yeah. Fedora Linux says yes, okay. So, let's Fedora Linux says yes, okay. So, let's Fedora Linux says yes, okay. So, let's open that. Age verification status. Okay, look. Age verification status. Okay, look. This is cool. This is cool. This is cool. Wow. Okay, so he's actually making Wow. Okay, so he's actually making Wow. Okay, so he's actually making um He actually has a repo here. That's He actually has a repo here. That's really cool. he is doing the the he is doing a good he is doing the the he is doing a good thing here. thing here. thing here. Ooh, lots of questions here, okay. Ooh, lots of questions here, okay. Ooh, lots of questions here, okay. Um Um Um Binghamton, New York.

Doesn't a politician have anything Doesn't a politician have anything better to do? better to do? better to do? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How does it impact us learners and pros How does it impact us learners and pros How does it impact us learners and pros of that Well, that's Yeah, that's for of that Well, that's Yeah, that's for of that Well, that's Yeah, that's for finding out. He has a GitHub up with the finding out. He has a GitHub up with the finding out. He has a GitHub up with the distro. Yeah, cool. distro. Yeah, cool. distro. Yeah, cool. We just found it. Thanks. We just found it. Thanks. We just found it. Thanks. It's not about your age. What, you can't hear me? What, you can't hear me? What do you mean? What do you mean? What do you mean? Sound volume is fine. Sound volume is fine. Sound volume is fine. Mic volume low. Hello, check one, two. Yeah, there isn't Hello, check one, two. Yeah, there isn't much that I can do here, guys. The The volume is already at max.

The volume is already at max. Like, I could perhaps Like, I could perhaps Like, I could perhaps I I I I increased the gain now. I increased the gain now. I increased the gain now. Let me know if this um Let me know if this um Let me know if this um Let me know if this impacts your sound Let me know if this impacts your sound Let me know if this impacts your sound negatively or positively. negatively or positively. negatively or positively. Let me know if this helps. Let me know if this helps. Let me know if this helps. >> [snorts] >> Let me know if the Is it better now? >> Let me know if the Is it better now? The mic sound? This is better. This is better. Sounds fine on your iPad. All right. Sounds fine on your iPad. All right. Sounds fine on your iPad. All right. Well, I increased the gain. Let me know Well, I increased the gain. Let me know Well, I increased the gain. Let me know if it's uh if it's right now. if it's uh if it's right now. if it's uh if it's right now. This will turn to a metal show, yeah. This will turn to a metal show, yeah. This will turn to a metal show, yeah. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] [snorts] >> It did get better. Okay. Well, thanks >> It did get better. Okay. Well, thanks for letting me know if there for letting me know if there for letting me know if there Always let me know if there's an issue Always let me know if there's an issue Always let me know if there's an issue with sound or whatever cuz I'll try to with sound or whatever cuz I'll try to with sound or whatever cuz I'll try to fix it. But, this is very useful. So, fix it. But, this is very useful. So, fix it. But, this is very useful. So, you will see that uh he he now has this you will see that uh he he now has this you will see that uh he he now has this repo open here. Let's star it.

repo open here. Let's star it. repo open here. Let's star it. Everybody, go here and star it. Everybody, go here and star it. Everybody, go here and star it. And uh support this guy. And uh support this guy. And uh support this guy. Um Um Um But, let's just for just He says here, But, let's just for just He says here, But, let's just for just He says here, Fedora Linux says yes, and I I I can't Fedora Linux says yes, and I I I can't Fedora Linux says yes, and I I I can't watch the whole video, but let's just watch the whole video, but let's just watch the whole video, but let's just add this to our mix here. add this to our mix here. add this to our mix here. This guy claims This guy claims This guy claims Fedora said yes. Fedora said yes. Fedora said yes. Can you Can you Can you read the transcript and summarize what he says? and summarize what he says? >> [snorts] >> Okay, and so there are there are those >> Okay, and so there are there are those who are boycotting it. Slackware is in the no camp. Devuan, Slackware is in the no camp. Devuan, Omari.

Omari. Omari. Arch Linux is an independent fork. Arch Linux is an independent fork. Arch Linux is an independent fork. Void Linux, firm no. Ageless Linux, all right. So, we're Ageless Linux, all right. So, we're getting new distros based on this then, getting new distros based on this then, getting new distros based on this then, apparently. He quotes the Fedora project leader. He quotes the Fedora project leader. From a recent forum post, the leader From a recent forum post, the leader From a recent forum post, the leader discusses technical details discusses technical details discusses technical details and suggests the ideal path to adopting and suggests the ideal path to adopting and suggests the ideal path to adopting a standard API, probably Apple's a standard API, probably Apple's a standard API, probably Apple's existing parental control existing parental control existing parental control signal API, so that Linux distros can signal API, so that Linux distros can signal API, so that Linux distros can expose consistent parental control expose consistent parental control expose consistent parental control signals. Canonical made it pretty clear they will Canonical made it pretty clear they will add some form of it. Okay. So, Okay. So, that's actually pretty worrying. Like if >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> Fedora, what does it say?

Well, this is a pretty deep rabbit hole Well, this is a pretty deep rabbit hole actually. But at least we have now have a repo But at least we have now have a repo where we can track status of this. where we can track status of this. where we can track status of this. But So we know that there are plenty there So we know that there are plenty there Like if you're really against it then Like if you're really against it then Like if you're really against it then or Arch Linux has a developer statement, or Arch Linux has a developer statement, or Arch Linux has a developer statement, but Arch Linux but Arch Linux but Arch Linux is just Arch Linux. So how does that is just Arch Linux. So how does that is just Arch Linux. So how does that work then? Arch Linux has no plans to do anything Arch Linux has no plans to do anything in response to this [ __ ] law. in response to this [ __ ] law. in response to this [ __ ] law. But Arch Linux is using Arch Linux as But Arch Linux is using Arch Linux as But Arch Linux is using Arch Linux as far as I'm aware. So and if Arch Linux far as I'm aware. So and if Arch Linux far as I'm aware. So and if Arch Linux is going to do it then who will? who will? But if then Arch Linux also has to do But if then Arch Linux also has to do But if then Arch Linux also has to do it. it. it. Graphene, uh that's for the mobile Graphene, uh that's for the mobile Graphene, uh that's for the mobile phones. phones. phones. So all of these are definitely not going So all of these are definitely not going So all of these are definitely not going to do it. Void Linux to do it. Void Linux to do it. Void Linux EndeavourOS. Okay, so Void Linux and EndeavourOS. Okay, so Void Linux and EndeavourOS. Okay, so Void Linux and EndeavourOS are not doing it.

EndeavourOS are not doing it. EndeavourOS are not doing it. So that's good. So that's good. So that's good. I did hear about Void Linux. So what is I did hear about Void Linux. So what is I did hear about Void Linux. So what is Void Linux again? I don't remember. Void Linux again? I don't remember. Void Linux again? I don't remember. Void Linux. Independent distribution. Stable rolling Independent distribution. Stable rolling release. We use runit as the init system. Okay, We use runit as the init system. Okay, yeah that's not going to work for me yeah that's not going to work for me yeah that's not going to work for me because I want to have systemd. because I want to have systemd. because I want to have systemd. But maybe we should look into systemd But maybe we should look into systemd But maybe we should look into systemd then. then. then. Because if Fedora says yes then there Because if Fedora says yes then there Because if Fedora says yes then there was also a video by him about was also a video by him about was also a video by him about um um um systemd right? Cash OS is also censoring radicals. Cash OS is also censoring radicals. Okay. Here, systemd fork to remove age Here, systemd fork to remove age verification. That's going to be the verification. That's going to be the verification. That's going to be the next one.

next one. next one. But let's check the chat first. Uh Uh Brian is a right-winger. He's a bit of a Brian is a right-winger. He's a bit of a Brian is a right-winger. He's a bit of a crank. Is that the guy that we're crank. Is that the guy that we're crank. Is that the guy that we're looking at? He used to host Linux Action Show. He used to host Linux Action Show. Talked He's a silly guy. Talked He's a silly guy. Talked He's a silly guy. He's very politically biased. He's very politically biased. He's very politically biased. Okay. Okay. Okay. That is this the Lunduke Journal guy? Is That is this the Lunduke Journal guy? Is That is this the Lunduke Journal guy? Is that uh that uh that uh Brian? Arch Linux probably does not have the Arch Linux probably does not have the skill to remove it. Yeah, exactly. Doesn't Arch Linux use systemd? Yeah, Doesn't Arch Linux use systemd? Yeah, exactly. Oracle Local Spirit of the Snakes Oracle Local Spirit of the Snakes Oracles. Well, like Li- Li- Well, like Li- Li- Linus, he he he creates the Linus, he he he creates the Linus, he he he creates the kernel.

kernel. kernel. Right? Right? Right? So in that same So in that same So in that same Okay, Brian Lunduke. That's the guy. Okay, Brian Lunduke. That's the guy. Okay, Brian Lunduke. That's the guy. Okay. Okay. Okay. I mean Linus, he he creates the Linux I mean Linus, he he creates the Linux I mean Linus, he he creates the Linux kernel, but that is not an operating kernel, but that is not an operating kernel, but that is not an operating system, right? It's it's a kernel. system, right? It's it's a kernel. system, right? It's it's a kernel. So it's actually the distributions that it's actually the distributions that need to take a stand because Linux on need to take a stand because Linux on need to take a stand because Linux on its own doesn't do very much. But it's helpful to know that he is a But it's helpful to know that he is a poli- like politically biased very poli- like politically biased very poli- like politically biased very politically biased right-wing a guy. But in any case, like I don't think that But in any case, like I don't think that this would this would this would influence his influence his influence his um um um Linux age verification reporting too Linux age verification reporting too Linux age verification reporting too much. Like it's either yes or no, right? much. Like it's either yes or no, right? much. Like it's either yes or no, right? So systemd fork to remove age So systemd fork to remove age So systemd fork to remove age verification. So let's then verification. So let's then verification. So let's then uh get this transcript and research that uh get this transcript and research that uh get this transcript and research that for a bit.

for a bit. for a bit. Because I want to know how would you Because I want to know how would you Because I want to know how would you even implement this on Linux? even implement this on Linux? even implement this on Linux? See. See. See. New chat. Uh Uh This is a video This is a video This is a video transcript. transcript. transcript. How does age verification How does age verification How does age verification work in systemd? How is it implemented work in systemd? How is it implemented work in systemd? How is it implemented and what is systemd doing now? Okay, it does not involve actual Okay, it does not involve actual verification. verification. verification. It adds an optional birth date field to It adds an optional birth date field to It adds an optional birth date field to the systemd user database records. Yeah, the systemd user database records. Yeah, the systemd user database records. Yeah, this is what I was this is what I was this is what I was expecting, right? expecting, right? expecting, right? This is the self-reported data on the This is the self-reported data on the This is the self-reported data on the local machine local machine local machine and users or even the account owner can and users or even the account owner can and users or even the account owner can modify it. modify it. modify it. Or cannot modify it. Only administrators Or cannot modify it. Only administrators Or cannot modify it. Only administrators root can set it. Typically via tools root can set it. Typically via tools root can set it. Typically via tools like home CTL.

like home CTL. like home CTL. Okay. Okay. Okay. So systemd already manages extended user So systemd already manages extended user So systemd already manages extended user identity through systemd user DB identity through systemd user DB identity through systemd user DB service. service. service. Which stores JSON-based user records Which stores JSON-based user records Which stores JSON-based user records with optional fields. with optional fields. with optional fields. Yeah. So it's already storing age This is what So it's already storing age This is what I was saying earlier. I was saying earlier. I was saying earlier. >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> That >> That >> That um um um Actually, let's open a new Actually, let's open a new Actually, let's open a new chat. chat. chat. Um Does this Does this Will this work? Will this work? Will this work? Hello. Yeah, I can actually dictate. Yeah, I can actually dictate. So when you So when you So when you on I remember on I remember on I remember on older Linux systems there was an add on older Linux systems there was an add on older Linux systems there was an add user or user add command and it would user or user add command and it would user or user add command and it would ask for multiple it would ask multiple ask for multiple it would ask multiple ask for multiple it would ask multiple questions like your name and your team questions like your name and your team questions like your name and your team or something like that.

or something like that. or something like that. And it would store that in on the Linux And it would store that in on the Linux And it would store that in on the Linux system. system. system. How What was that command and is that How What was that command and is that How What was that command and is that still being used? I believe it it still being used? I believe it it still being used? I believe it it doesn't ask about that anymore. Add user, not user add. Add user, not user add. And still is in many cases a more user And still is in many cases a more user And still is in many cases a more user Yeah. Sudo add user username. So let's try Sudo add user username. So let's try um Which add user? Yeah, it it has So I'm Which add user? Yeah, it it has So I'm now on my Raspberry Pi. now on my Raspberry Pi. now on my Raspberry Pi. So let's do sudo add user So let's do sudo add user So let's do sudo add user uh uh uh Grock. Okay, so I have a new user here. New Okay, so I have a new user here. New password. password. password. Okay. Yeah, here. Enter the new value or Okay. Yeah, here. Enter the new value or Okay. Yeah, here. Enter the new value or press enter for the default. So press enter for the default. So press enter for the default. So uh Grock stream, whatever.

uh Grock stream, whatever. uh Grock stream, whatever. Room number, right? It asks for that was Room number, right? It asks for that was Room number, right? It asks for that was it? Room number? So that's three. it? Room number? So that's three. it? Room number? So that's three. Work phone, right? So Work phone, right? So Work phone, right? So like like like you could already argue that oh my god, you could already argue that oh my god, you could already argue that oh my god, Linux is asking for my personal details. Linux is asking for my personal details. Linux is asking for my personal details. It's asking for my phone number. Oh my It's asking for my phone number. Oh my It's asking for my phone number. Oh my god, it's not a free operating system god, it's not a free operating system god, it's not a free operating system anymore. anymore. anymore. I have to give my phone number. Home phone. It's even asking my home Home phone. It's even asking my home phone. Oh my god. phone. Oh my god. phone. Oh my god. Other? Other? Other? Hello. Hello. Hello. Is the information correct? Yes. Okay. Is the information correct? Yes. Okay. Is the information correct? Yes. Okay. So So So Linux already used to do something like Linux already used to do something like Linux already used to do something like this. And I think this. And I think this. And I think Linux age verification implementation Linux age verification implementation Linux age verification implementation then simply means adding another then simply means adding another then simply means adding another question to this prompt, right? But as question to this prompt, right? But as question to this prompt, right? But as you have seen you have seen you have seen it I can literally put in [ __ ] and it I can literally put in [ __ ] and it I can literally put in [ __ ] and it would work, right? it would work, right? it would work, right? I mean this is my This is my very I mean this is my This is my very I mean this is my This is my very limited understanding of how it would limited understanding of how it would limited understanding of how it would work.

work. work. But this is how But this is how But this is how there was already like this on systems. there was already like this on systems. there was already like this on systems. It's no verification. It's just a way of It's no verification. It's just a way of It's no verification. It's just a way of linking user your your What do you call linking user your your What do you call linking user your your What do you call it? A a number to your user in that it? A a number to your user in that it? A a number to your user in that sense. Okay? sense. Okay? sense. Okay? That was already happening on Linux. That was already happening on Linux. That was already happening on Linux. So if systemd then simply adds an optional if systemd then simply adds an optional field of birth date field of birth date field of birth date like for me there is no reason to like for me there is no reason to like for me there is no reason to um um um switch from Linux. switch from Linux. switch from Linux. Or sw- far away from systemd. Okay? Or sw- far away from systemd. Okay? Or sw- far away from systemd. Okay? It does not enforce any policy, perform It does not enforce any policy, perform It does not enforce any policy, perform checks, or block apps. So this ties into broader ecosystem So this ties into broader ecosystem efforts. The field was added to mainline system The field was added to mainline system D. There was heavy backlash with a D. There was heavy backlash with a D. There was heavy backlash with a revert PR that was closed. revert PR that was closed. revert PR that was closed. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Okay.

Wow, so liberated system D because of a Wow, so liberated system D because of a birth date field. birth date field. birth date field. I mean, okay, I am Okay, well let we'll see what the chat Okay, well let we'll see what the chat has to think about this, but has to think about this, but has to think about this, but like for me this seems to that it's like for me this seems to that it's like for me this seems to that it's being a being a being a blown a little bit out of proportions blown a little bit out of proportions blown a little bit out of proportions here, okay? here, okay? here, okay? So this is this is the implementation on So this is this is the implementation on So this is this is the implementation on Linux systems fundamentally as I Linux systems fundamentally as I Linux systems fundamentally as I understand it. understand it. understand it. >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> Let's see. Yeah, so they already forked it. There Yeah, so they already forked it. There is the a liberated fork. Liberated system D, that's what he says Liberated system D, that's what he says in the video. System D forked, liberated in the video. System D forked, liberated in the video. System D forked, liberated system D. system D. system D. So there is a fork of it already. So there is a fork of it already. So there is a fork of it already. >> [snorts] >> All sorts of forks. H ever used to user >> All sorts of forks. H ever used to user agent.

The system D thing will give apps a The system D thing will give apps a boolean attestation. The poor guy who did the poor guy is The poor guy who did the poor guy is getting doxxed and death threats. Oh my getting doxxed and death threats. Oh my getting doxxed and death threats. Oh my god. That is done for office users. Yes, That is done for office users. Yes, exactly. exactly. exactly. Right? Right? Right? So it it just saves on your system and So it it just saves on your system and So it it just saves on your system and doesn't leave. Exactly. What is the difference between pseudo What is the difference between pseudo Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's a little bit out of That's a little bit out of That's a little bit out of context right now. Yes, I'm using Roku lots. Yes, I'm using Roku lots. What is he talking about why meta is What is he talking about why meta is What is he talking about why meta is funding the lobbying effort? Yeah, that funding the lobbying effort? Yeah, that funding the lobbying effort? Yeah, that is political. I'm not going to get into is political. I'm not going to get into is political. I'm not going to get into that. that. that. Most of these forks are just to show Most of these forks are just to show Most of these forks are just to show sentiment. They will die in a few sentiment. They will die in a few sentiment. They will die in a few months. Yeah, I think so too. months. Yeah, I think so too. months. Yeah, I think so too. It's not about the field being present. It's not about the field being present. It's not about the field being present. It's the requirement to provide the data It's the requirement to provide the data It's the requirement to provide the data to any external source on a program by to any external source on a program by to any external source on a program by program basis to verify users at an API program basis to verify users at an API program basis to verify users at an API level.

level. level. Yeah, so What is that true though, Xiago? Like What is that true though, Xiago? Like to any external source? Like the law, at to any external source? Like the law, at to any external source? Like the law, at least the Colorado law least the Colorado law least the Colorado law says that it needs to be provided to app says that it needs to be provided to app says that it needs to be provided to app stores, but stores, but stores, but I can download any anything on my I can download any anything on my I can download any anything on my machine and run it in a container and machine and run it in a container and machine and run it in a container and there's no app store involved. Like there's no app store involved. Like there's no app store involved. Like there's binaries, but there's binaries, but there's binaries, but like on your phone you have an app store like on your phone you have an app store like on your phone you have an app store where you make purchases and everything, where you make purchases and everything, where you make purchases and everything, right? right? right? But on Linux there is no app store. So But on Linux there is no app store. So But on Linux there is no app store. So how how I I I'm still how how I I I'm still how how I I I'm still like I need you guys to to explain it, like I need you guys to to explain it, like I need you guys to to explain it, right? Because I I'm I'm clearly not right? Because I I'm I'm clearly not right? Because I I'm I'm clearly not understanding here. understanding here. understanding here. Let's just figure it out together, Let's just figure it out together, Let's just figure it out together, right? Is right? Is right? Is the issue is to comply to govern the issue is to comply to govern the issue is to comply to govern policies that in essence try to serve as policies that in essence try to serve as policies that in essence try to serve as a user identification such as the UK a user identification such as the UK a user identification such as the UK has.

has. has. First only a date living on your First only a date living on your First only a date living on your machine, later will be accessed by a machine, later will be accessed by a machine, later will be accessed by a warrant. warrant. warrant. Yeah. How is it checked by sites? How will it How is it checked by sites? How will it present? Yeah, I mean Yeah, I mean I don't think it would That's a good point. Like flat pack is That's a good point. Like flat pack is an app store in that sense. But even if But let's say But let's say, But even if But let's say But let's say, right? In a in the situation where they right? In a in the situation where they right? In a in the situation where they say they require any user that downloads they require any user that downloads from flat pack from flat pack from flat pack they require that user to have an age they require that user to have an age they require that user to have an age field. Well, if I I am the Linux I'm the field. Well, if I I am the Linux I'm the field. Well, if I I am the Linux I'm the administrator of my system, right? I set administrator of my system, right? I set administrator of my system, right? I set it up. I install my system it up. I install my system it up. I install my system and then when I do add user, just like and then when I do add user, just like and then when I do add user, just like the phone number, I get a field what is the phone number, I get a field what is the phone number, I get a field what is your age? And I just fill in 79.

Who's going to know? Who's going to know? Like who is going to Like who is going to Like who is going to How are they going to enforce that? Like I can I could like I don't have a Like I can I could like I don't have a problem if problem if problem if I need to give a number and that app I need to give a number and that app I need to give a number and that app store hypothetically checks that number store hypothetically checks that number store hypothetically checks that number and and and to allow me to download applications to allow me to download applications to allow me to download applications that are over 18 or something like that. that are over 18 or something like that. that are over 18 or something like that. Like as long as I'm administering my own Like as long as I'm administering my own Like as long as I'm administering my own system, system, system, there is no real issue for that. there is no real issue for that. there is no real issue for that. However, However, However, if I were to set up my if I were to set up my if I were to set up my a laptop for my kid, right? And that a laptop for my kid, right? And that a laptop for my kid, right? And that would obviously have Linux on it, would obviously have Linux on it, would obviously have Linux on it, then my kid would not have then my kid would not have then my kid would not have administrator rights on that laptop. administrator rights on that laptop. administrator rights on that laptop. The kid would not be allowed to change The kid would not be allowed to change The kid would not be allowed to change the age on the laptop on on the system. the age on the laptop on on the system. the age on the laptop on on the system. Like I would set it up with his correct Like I would set it up with his correct Like I would set it up with his correct age age age so that he would not be exposed to so that he would not be exposed to so that he would not be exposed to wrong things. That like I would actually wrong things. That like I would actually wrong things. That like I would actually like that if that is that is there.

like that if that is that is there. like that if that is that is there. So So So like as long as we are all grown men and like as long as we are all grown men and like as long as we are all grown men and adults managing our own system, adults managing our own system, adults managing our own system, if we can then if we can then if we can then fill out our own fill out our own fill out our own a fake age, a fake age, a fake age, then what's the issue? Are you using Bluefin? No, I'm just Are you using Bluefin? No, I'm just using Fedora Atomic Sway. In the U there are GDPR rules. I already In the U there are GDPR rules. I already explained. Well, what did you explain, explained. Well, what did you explain, explained. Well, what did you explain, Constant? Constant? Constant? I don't I don't I don't What exactly did you explain? Can you copy the message? Can you copy the message? I can't see it. Sorry. But yeah, it's a good point. Like I am But yeah, it's a good point. Like I am not not not covered by Colorado laws, but I can see covered by Colorado laws, but I can see covered by Colorado laws, but I can see why a Fedora or Canonical would have to why a Fedora or Canonical would have to why a Fedora or Canonical would have to comply because they have users in comply because they have users in comply because they have users in Colorado, for example.

But But the developer will be held responsible the developer will be held responsible the developer will be held responsible for the usage of the application. If for the usage of the application. If for the usage of the application. If it's used in a way this was unintended, it's used in a way this was unintended, it's used in a way this was unintended, the developer will be held responsible the developer will be held responsible the developer will be held responsible and be fined accordingly. Okay? if like if I can literally just if like if I can literally just fill out the number on my machine, I fill out the number on my machine, I fill out the number on my machine, I don't really see what the problem is don't really see what the problem is don't really see what the problem is here. here. here. But maybe I'm just oversimplifying it, But maybe I'm just oversimplifying it, But maybe I'm just oversimplifying it, right? But if if literally people are right? But if if literally people are right? But if if literally people are forking system D forking system D forking system D because because because what system D did was add a birth date what system D did was add a birth date what system D did was add a birth date field, which is not even required. which is not even required. What? So is the is the birth date field So is the is the birth date field mandatory?

So this we we're just focusing on system So this we we're just focusing on system D here, okay? So D here, okay? So D here, okay? So because like that I would say any because like that I would say any because like that I would say any like if system D does something, then like if system D does something, then like if system D does something, then like I'm I'm concerned with Linux like I'm I'm concerned with Linux like I'm I'm concerned with Linux related to my career. related to my career. related to my career. Also for my home use, but Also for my home use, but Also for my home use, but like I would never use a distro that like I would never use a distro that like I would never use a distro that doesn't use system D doesn't use system D doesn't use system D because I always want to get better at because I always want to get better at because I always want to get better at using system D because any using system D because any using system D because any any any any operating system of any significance out operating system of any significance out operating system of any significance out there that is being used in production there that is being used in production there that is being used in production uses system D. Red Hat, Canonical, uses system D. Red Hat, Canonical, uses system D. Red Hat, Canonical, Ubuntu, Ubuntu, Ubuntu, OpenSUSE. Do you know another one? Do you know another one? Does OpenSUSE use system D? Yeah. And and SUSE Enterprise Yeah. And and SUSE Enterprise use it too, right?

All current SUSE distributions also use All current SUSE distributions also use system D, okay? system D, okay? system D, okay? So So So like I'm I'm live stream streaming here, like I'm I'm live stream streaming here, like I'm I'm live stream streaming here, but my claim like I'm a DevOps engineer but my claim like I'm a DevOps engineer but my claim like I'm a DevOps engineer and I teach people to become DevOps and I teach people to become DevOps and I teach people to become DevOps engineers. engineers. engineers. And my claim is that I want to always And my claim is that I want to always And my claim is that I want to always use use use Linux distributions for my own personal Linux distributions for my own personal Linux distributions for my own personal huge use huge use huge use that use system D because that use system D because that use system D because base basically any production system base basically any production system base basically any production system that you will see out in the wild is that you will see out in the wild is that you will see out in the wild is using system D. Therefore, using system D. Therefore, using system D. Therefore, as someone who is always wanting to as someone who is always wanting to as someone who is always wanting to become better at my craft, become better at my craft, become better at my craft, I always want to get as much experience I always want to get as much experience I always want to get as much experience as possible with systemd. Is that Is as possible with systemd. Is that Is as possible with systemd. Is that Is that a correct statement to make? Yes, it's largely correct. Yes, it's largely correct. Systemd dominates production Linux. Systemd dominates production Linux. Systemd dominates production Linux. Red Hat, Ubuntu, SUSE, Fedora.

Red Hat, Ubuntu, SUSE, Fedora. Red Hat, Ubuntu, SUSE, Fedora. Okay, small nuances, not literally any Okay, small nuances, not literally any Okay, small nuances, not literally any production system. There are a few Okay. production system. There are a few Okay. production system. There are a few Okay. Some very old legacy systems, niche or Some very old legacy systems, niche or Some very old legacy systems, niche or specialized embedded systems. specialized embedded systems. specialized embedded systems. A small number of people companies run A small number of people companies run A small number of people companies run non-systemd, like Devuan, Void, Artix, non-systemd, like Devuan, Void, Artix, non-systemd, like Devuan, Void, Artix, or Gentoo. or Gentoo. or Gentoo. Okay. So, your philosophy is correct and So, your philosophy is correct and professional. Sticking with professional. Sticking with professional. Sticking with systemd-based distributions systemd-based distributions systemd-based distributions uh for your personal use is one of the uh for your personal use is one of the uh for your personal use is one of the best ways to stay sharp as a DevOps best ways to stay sharp as a DevOps best ways to stay sharp as a DevOps engineer and teacher. Okay, so that is engineer and teacher. Okay, so that is engineer and teacher. Okay, so that is why I'm so why I'm so why I'm so uh hyperfixated on systemd. uh hyperfixated on systemd. uh hyperfixated on systemd. And systemd then says And systemd then says And systemd then says the birth date is not mandatory. They the birth date is not mandatory. They the birth date is not mandatory. They just added it. just added it. just added it. Well, if that if this is what all the Well, if that if this is what all the Well, if that if this is what all the the fuss is about, then I am definitely fuss is about, then I am definitely like I'm get not getting something here.

The worry is that they're going to push The worry is that they're going to push for more. for more. for more. Next is a requirement to use Next is a requirement to use Next is a requirement to use verification to verify who you are. verification to verify who you are. verification to verify who you are. Yeah, but who who says so? Yeah, but who who says so? Yeah, but who who says so? Like that would happen when you download Like that would happen when you download Like that would happen when you download the distribution or something like that, the distribution or something like that, the distribution or something like that, right? The next step may well be that they The next step may well be that they require to I verify your ID with require to I verify your ID with require to I verify your ID with government API and then you get an age government API and then you get an age government API and then you get an age certificate. Yeah, but if that Yeah, but if that Okay, well, that is that is I think that Okay, well, that is that is I think that Okay, well, that is that is I think that is um is um is um quite far in the future. I'm not sure quite far in the future. I'm not sure quite far in the future. I'm not sure that like that like that like that would require some very heavy that would require some very heavy that would require some very heavy legislation, right? To implement that legislation, right? To implement that legislation, right? To implement that that basically means that there is no that basically means that there is no that basically means that there is no privacy anymore when that happens. privacy anymore when that happens. privacy anymore when that happens. And then I think we have bigger problems And then I think we have bigger problems And then I think we have bigger problems to think about because to think about because to think about because it would also be for your iPhone and any it would also be for your iPhone and any it would also be for your iPhone and any App Store related thing, you would have App Store related thing, you would have App Store related thing, you would have to scan your ID and and have your to scan your ID and and have your to scan your ID and and have your digital ID digital ID digital ID connected to your connected to your connected to your Apple iStore, for example, right?

Apple iStore, for example, right? Apple iStore, for example, right? I mean I mean I mean at that point at that point at that point what is it what is going to be what is it what is going to be what is it what is going to be um um um the why is the escape going to be? the why is the escape going to be? the why is the escape going to be? Like in that case, then you would just Like in that case, then you would just Like in that case, then you would just if you're really have an issue with if you're really have an issue with if you're really have an issue with that, then you would have to use that, then you would have to use that, then you would have to use something that um something that um something that um is then excluded from these App Stores, is then excluded from these App Stores, is then excluded from these App Stores, for example. think about think about like if Red Hat if this if this becomes like if Red Hat if this if this becomes like if Red Hat if this if this becomes a thing, right? a thing, right? a thing, right? So, any Red Hat user So, any Red Hat user So, any Red Hat user now has to be v- ID verified. now has to be v- ID verified. now has to be v- ID verified. Like you cannot claim people in the Like you cannot claim people in the Like you cannot claim people in the military working with Red Hat to link military working with Red Hat to link military working with Red Hat to link their their their their their actual passport to their their their actual passport to their their their actual passport to their user account. Like I I don't see that user account. Like I I don't see that user account. Like I I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Okay, well, let let's Okay, well, let let's I will I will I will I'm just going to say what Grok says I'm just going to say what Grok says I'm just going to say what Grok says here, right? So here, right? So here, right? So So, I'm live streaming. So, I'm live streaming. So, I'm live streaming. I'm a I'm a I'm a a Linux a Linux a Linux uh uh uh content creator. content creator. content creator. And this is what And this is what And this is what the chat is saying. >> Really really curious what what the >> Really really curious what what the agents are going to say about this.

It's a valid concern, slippery slope It's a valid concern, slippery slope worry. It's just a thin end of the wedge. The It's just a thin end of the wedge. The next logical step is self-report isn't next logical step is self-report isn't next logical step is self-report isn't enough. enough. enough. You must Yes. You must Yes. You must Yes. Okay. Let's see. OS must show a setup screen Let's see. OS must show a setup screen asking for birth date or age bracket. asking for birth date or age bracket. asking for birth date or age bracket. Must expose a real-time API that returns Must expose a real-time API that returns Must expose a real-time API that returns only an age bracket, like 18 plus, 13 to only an age bracket, like 18 plus, 13 to only an age bracket, like 18 plus, 13 to 17, under 13. 17, under 13. 17, under 13. So, it's only about 18 plus, right? So, it's only about 18 plus, right? So, it's only about 18 plus, right? You have to verify that you're 18 plus. You have to verify that you're 18 plus. You have to verify that you're 18 plus. Apps must ask users for the bracket when Apps must ask users for the bracket when Apps must ask users for the bracket when launched. Explicitly self-report honor system Explicitly self-report honor system only. No ID scan, no biometrics, no only. No ID scan, no biometrics, no only. No ID scan, no biometrics, no external service requirement. Okay.

Okay. So, this is this is what the current So, this is this is what the current So, this is this is what the current laws require. laws require. laws require. Self-reported Self-reported Self-reported statement that you are 18 plus. statement that you are 18 plus. statement that you are 18 plus. Okay. Okay. Okay. The next step fear is realistic. Yeah. Yeah. UK is already a photo ID plus selfie, UK is already a photo ID plus selfie, UK is already a photo ID plus selfie, open banking, digital ID wallet. open banking, digital ID wallet. open banking, digital ID wallet. Yeah, so I that's already in place here Yeah, so I that's already in place here Yeah, so I that's already in place here in the Netherlands, too. Like I I there in the Netherlands, too. Like I I there in the Netherlands, too. Like I I there are digital services connected to my are digital services connected to my are digital services connected to my actual identity with passport and actual identity with passport and actual identity with passport and everything. What I would say on your stream, okay.

What I would say on your stream, okay. Be honest. The fear is rational. So, I'm Be honest. The fear is rational. So, I'm Be honest. The fear is rational. So, I'm just going to be Grok's voice here. The just going to be Grok's voice here. The just going to be Grok's voice here. The fear is rational. fear is rational. fear is rational. Infrastructure makes future overreach Infrastructure makes future overreach Infrastructure makes future overreach easier. I agree with that. Yeah. easier. I agree with that. Yeah. easier. I agree with that. Yeah. But right now, it's just still But right now, it's just still But right now, it's just still self-reported data and Linux has its self-reported data and Linux has its self-reported data and Linux has its escape hatches, proprietary OSs don't. Use liberate systemd if you want the Use liberate systemd if you want the birth date field gone forever. birth date field gone forever. birth date field gone forever. Watch to doesn't verify tracker. Watch to doesn't verify tracker. Watch to doesn't verify tracker. Support distros that publicly say we Support distros that publicly say we Support distros that publicly say we will not implement stronger. Advocate for seccomp in standards for Advocate for seccomp in standards for maximum resistance non-systemd or maximum resistance non-systemd or maximum resistance non-systemd or minimalist distros. Yeah. Yeah. >> [sighs and gasps] >> The chat is right to be sus- picious, >> The chat is right to be sus- picious, stay vigilant, keep working, keep the stay vigilant, keep working, keep the stay vigilant, keep working, keep the pressure on. pressure on. pressure on. Linux's greatest strength has always Linux's greatest strength has always Linux's greatest strength has always been that we can say no when the been that we can say no when the been that we can say no when the straight rest of the industry says, straight rest of the industry says, straight rest of the industry says, "Yes, sir." That hasn't changed. Okay, "Yes, sir." That hasn't changed. Okay, "Yes, sir." That hasn't changed. Okay, well, I I got to say I agree with that. well, I I got to say I agree with that. well, I I got to say I agree with that. I got to say I agree with that.

Like there is a Like there is a what do you call it? Um like rebellious element here, too, Um like rebellious element here, too, right? right? right? Staying sticking to your guns. In the UK, we have to provide age In the UK, we have to provide age verification for any website which verification for any website which verification for any website which allows any form of chat, including allows any form of chat, including allows any form of chat, including comments and forums. It has taken comments and forums. It has taken comments and forums. It has taken various forms. various forms. various forms. Yeah, so Yeah, so Yeah, so that is a UK thing and then UK thing and then now it becomes a matter of technical now it becomes a matter of technical now it becomes a matter of technical competence to have competence to have competence to have um Yeah, I mean, even if you would use one Yeah, I mean, even if you would use one of these distros that don't expose it, of these distros that don't expose it, of these distros that don't expose it, if the the internet in your country or if the the internet in your country or if the the internet in your country or your websites located in your country your websites located in your country your websites located in your country won't allow you to log in anyway, then won't allow you to log in anyway, then won't allow you to log in anyway, then you're still [ __ ] Steam only accepts credit cards as you Steam only accepts credit cards as you have to be 18.

Yeah, I mean there's a bigger trend Yeah, I mean there's a bigger trend happening here like judging from the happening here like judging from the happening here like judging from the from the chat here. It is not necessarily just about Linux, It is not necessarily just about Linux, right? right? right? It's about using internet systems in It's about using internet systems in It's about using internet systems in general general general that would require you to that would require you to that would require you to log in or uh verify your age, I mean. The sooner you're using Linux as your The sooner you're using Linux as your daily driver, the less information the daily driver, the less information the daily driver, the less information the government will have. I'm not fond of government will have. I'm not fond of government will have. I'm not fond of what MS is doing lately. Yeah. what MS is doing lately. Yeah. what MS is doing lately. Yeah. Okay, so I feel uh quite a lot wiser Okay, so I feel uh quite a lot wiser Okay, so I feel uh quite a lot wiser after this investigation. So, the the answer here then is systemd So, the the answer here then is systemd implemented implemented implemented a birth date field which is optional. a birth date field which is optional. a birth date field which is optional. It simply exists um um to have the possibility to store to have the possibility to store to have the possibility to store information about the user's age.

Okay. Okay. How would this even be enforced? It is How would this even be enforced? It is How would this even be enforced? It is currently currently currently only self-reported. The law The law operates on a honor-based operates on a honor-based operates on a honor-based system. So, yes, what I said it is the system So, yes, what I said it is the system sysadmin thing. Yes, it is just a field sysadmin thing. Yes, it is just a field sysadmin thing. Yes, it is just a field in the user JSON database Yeah, so that's exactly how it is. So, Yeah, so that's exactly how it is. So, right at this stage, what it what it right at this stage, what it what it right at this stage, what it what it means is means is means is does your Linux distribution have a does your Linux distribution have a does your Linux distribution have a field to field to field to store your age, right? store your age, right? store your age, right? And based on this information And based on this information And based on this information it's not even about your age itself, it's not even about your age itself, it's not even about your age itself, it's about whether you are 18 plus or it's about whether you are 18 plus or it's about whether you are 18 plus or not.

not. not. Now, my personal stance is that Now, my personal stance is that Now, my personal stance is that I can see merit in if I'm a father and I can see merit in if I'm a father and I can see merit in if I'm a father and I'm administering the Linux system of my I'm administering the Linux system of my I'm administering the Linux system of my son son son then I would like to be able to set that then I would like to be able to set that then I would like to be able to set that system system system so that it exposes to the internet that so that it exposes to the internet that so that it exposes to the internet that he is under 13. he is under 13. he is under 13. Like I would genuinely Like I would genuinely Like I would genuinely um um um I would genuinely like to have that I would genuinely like to have that I would genuinely like to have that option option option especially if if the laws require that, especially if if the laws require that, especially if if the laws require that, right? So, I don't think having the fact right? So, I don't think having the fact right? So, I don't think having the fact that you store age information in Linux that you store age information in Linux that you store age information in Linux is an issue. is an issue. is an issue. However However However I think it's an issue if this becomes I think it's an issue if this becomes I think it's an issue if this becomes mandatory and I would have to then scan mandatory and I would have to then scan mandatory and I would have to then scan my ID my ID my ID uh to uh to uh to um verify that my information here is um verify that my information here is um verify that my information here is correct, right? correct, right? correct, right? So, I fully support that there are So, I fully support that there are So, I fully support that there are Linux distributions Linux distributions Linux distributions that are saying, "FU, we are not going that are saying, "FU, we are not going that are saying, "FU, we are not going to do this and we are going to provide a to do this and we are going to provide a to do this and we are going to provide a alternative to people who do not want to alternative to people who do not want to alternative to people who do not want to disclose their age to the internet." And disclose their age to the internet." And disclose their age to the internet." And I fully support that I fully support that I fully support that and I can see how that can be useful, and I can see how that can be useful, and I can see how that can be useful, especially especially especially like I'm a little bit shocked with what like I'm a little bit shocked with what like I'm a little bit shocked with what I'm reading here about I'm reading here about I'm reading here about uh all of this stuff in the uh all of this stuff in the uh all of this stuff in the uh UK that you cannot use many different

uh UK that you cannot use many different uh UK that you cannot use many different services without age verification. services without age verification. services without age verification. Like it is very clearly the trend that Like it is very clearly the trend that Like it is very clearly the trend that what the world is uh moving towards. But yeah, as you're saying, this is just But yeah, as you're saying, this is just to place a foot on the door. to place a foot on the door. to place a foot on the door. And I mean I mean I I I if if the if the solution to this is if if the if the solution to this is if if the if the solution to this is just to install a distro just to install a distro just to install a distro that doesn't have age verification, like that doesn't have age verification, like that doesn't have age verification, like I I I don't see I I I don't see I I I don't see like that is not magically going to open like that is not magically going to open like that is not magically going to open all of these sites for you in the UK, I all of these sites for you in the UK, I all of these sites for you in the UK, I would imagine. Like then it would just would imagine. Like then it would just would imagine. Like then it would just say, "You're not exposing your age, say, "You're not exposing your age, say, "You're not exposing your age, therefore you are not allowed to use our therefore you are not allowed to use our therefore you are not allowed to use our website." website." website." So, I don't see how that solves So, I don't see how that solves So, I don't see how that solves anything. Like anything. Like anything. Like I almost see it as inevitable I almost see it as inevitable I almost see it as inevitable that Linux must have some some that Linux must have some some that Linux must have some some system to implement this at some point.

system to implement this at some point. system to implement this at some point. But I do fully support that some people But I do fully support that some people But I do fully support that some people do not want that and then they do not want that and then they do not want that and then they uh accept the fact that they cannot use uh accept the fact that they cannot use uh accept the fact that they cannot use certain systems. Like certain systems. Like certain systems. Like there are people there are people there are people who will not use JavaScript on who will not use JavaScript on who will not use JavaScript on the current internet, right? Well, that the current internet, right? Well, that the current internet, right? Well, that means that like means that like means that like I don't know, 80% of the internet is not I don't know, 80% of the internet is not I don't know, 80% of the internet is not accessible to them. And it's also accessible to them. And it's also accessible to them. And it's also if you do um if you do um if you do um let's see, w3m let's see, w3m let's see, w3m substack.name substack.name substack.name michielvanemburg michielvanemburg michielvanemburg .substack.com .substack.com .substack.com If I want to visit my substack Hold on. Hold on. Can I read my substack? Oh, wow. Okay. Well, actually I can read Oh, wow. Okay. Well, actually I can read my substack from the command line. my substack from the command line. my substack from the command line. But if you do w3m substack.com But if you do w3m substack.com But if you do w3m substack.com here, they will say this site requires here, they will say this site requires here, they will say this site requires JavaScript to run correctly.

JavaScript to run correctly. JavaScript to run correctly. Please turn on the Okay, so Please turn on the Okay, so Please turn on the Okay, so this is fun. I discovered something this is fun. I discovered something this is fun. I discovered something today. today. today. I I thought that you couldn't use I I thought that you couldn't use I I thought that you couldn't use substack without JavaScript. substack without JavaScript. substack without JavaScript. But if you just go to the substack But if you just go to the substack But if you just go to the substack itself, you can actually um itself, you can actually um itself, you can actually um uh open that substack. But that was my uh open that substack. But that was my uh open that substack. But that was my point. Like there are people point. Like there are people point. Like there are people who for example wouldn't be able to use who for example wouldn't be able to use who for example wouldn't be able to use substack substack substack because they do not uh accept that because they do not uh accept that because they do not uh accept that JavaScript runs in their browser. So, JavaScript runs in their browser. So, JavaScript runs in their browser. So, they won't they won't allow JavaScript they won't they won't allow JavaScript they won't they won't allow JavaScript on their in their browser. on their in their browser. on their in their browser. So, that is a a a very valid So, that is a a a very valid So, that is a a a very valid um thing you can do um thing you can do um thing you can do if that is a choice you want to make. if that is a choice you want to make. if that is a choice you want to make. But that also means that certain But that also means that certain But that also means that certain things in the internet are not available things in the internet are not available things in the internet are not available to you. And I think every human being in to you. And I think every human being in to you. And I think every human being in the world should have that choice. the world should have that choice. the world should have that choice. I feel bad for the Brits. Their website I feel bad for the Brits. Their website I feel bad for the Brits. Their website asks for age ID. Yeah, I I agree.

Isn't the parents responsible if your Isn't the parents responsible if your child under the age of 18? child under the age of 18? child under the age of 18? Yeah, I mean yeah, you're that's Yeah, I mean yeah, you're that's Yeah, I mean yeah, you're that's correct. correct. correct. But the thing is even the parents are But the thing is even the parents are But the thing is even the parents are all like if you give access internet all like if you give access internet all like if you give access internet access to your kid, like access to your kid, like access to your kid, like like I'm not a father, so all of this is like I'm not a father, so all of this is like I'm not a father, so all of this is actually just very much an armchair actually just very much an armchair actually just very much an armchair discussion for me because I don't know discussion for me because I don't know discussion for me because I don't know what what it means to raise children, what what it means to raise children, what what it means to raise children, right? I have no experience with it. right? I have no experience with it. right? I have no experience with it. But But But yeah, it's very hard to protect children yeah, it's very hard to protect children yeah, it's very hard to protect children um like as I shared in the beginning my own like as I shared in the beginning my own story, like story, like story, like all of the gore and all of the bad all of the gore and all of the bad all of the gore and all of the bad things that I have seen in my youth on things that I have seen in my youth on things that I have seen in my youth on the internet, like I don't I wouldn't the internet, like I don't I wouldn't the internet, like I don't I wouldn't want my kids to see that. Mass surveillance is on the menu whether Mass surveillance is on the menu whether you like it or not. I mean, it's a you like it or not. I mean, it's a you like it or not. I mean, it's a defeatist standpoint, but I I got to say defeatist standpoint, but I I got to say defeatist standpoint, but I I got to say there is the there is the there is the um um um there is some truth to that.

there is some truth to that. there is some truth to that. Like you can resist Like you can resist Like you can resist but if literally any useful website is but if literally any useful website is but if literally any useful website is going to be required by law in the going to be required by law in the going to be required by law in the future future future to have some sort of age verification to have some sort of age verification to have some sort of age verification then you can then you can then you can do what you want, but Linux is still do what you want, but Linux is still do what you want, but Linux is still going to have to comply. going to have to comply. going to have to comply. And And And if you then choose to use a version that if you then choose to use a version that if you then choose to use a version that does not use um age verification does not use um age verification does not use um age verification then then then that is a consequence similar to not that is a consequence similar to not that is a consequence similar to not using JavaScript. using JavaScript. using JavaScript. Which is a choice I respect. Which is a choice I respect. Which is a choice I respect. I'm from Russia. Great channel, by the I'm from Russia. Great channel, by the I'm from Russia. Great channel, by the way. Thank you. So, yeah. My this is my current stance So, yeah. My this is my current stance on the subject. I think like this whole on the subject. I think like this whole on the subject. I think like this whole I'm very happy that there is so much I'm very happy that there is so much I'm very happy that there is so much discussion going on on the internet and discussion going on on the internet and discussion going on on the internet and people like signaling this saying "Pay people like signaling this saying "Pay people like signaling this saying "Pay attention. Pay attention."

attention. Pay attention." attention. Pay attention." And that um there are there is And that um there are there is And that um there are there is uh there are things being said about it. So, I'm I'm I'm I'm glad that is So, I'm I'm I'm I'm glad that is happening. happening. happening. At its current stage here, where systemd At its current stage here, where systemd At its current stage here, where systemd now has an birth date field, now has an birth date field, now has an birth date field, like I have no issues with that my like I have no issues with that my like I have no issues with that my personally. Like this would not cause me personally. Like this would not cause me personally. Like this would not cause me to to to switch to a different distro. switch to a different distro. switch to a different distro. Even if they make birth date a Even if they make birth date a Even if they make birth date a um um um a a a mandatory thing to fill out. I would mandatory thing to fill out. I would mandatory thing to fill out. I would still not have a problem with it because still not have a problem with it because still not have a problem with it because you can just fill out whatever you want you can just fill out whatever you want you can just fill out whatever you want if you're a grown man managing your own if you're a grown man managing your own if you're a grown man managing your own system. Mainly also because it just require Mainly also because it just require requires a signal for you to um to verify that you're 18 plus. Like that to verify that you're 18 plus. Like that is the law. You have to verify that is the law. You have to verify that is the law. You have to verify that you're 18 plus.

you're 18 plus. you're 18 plus. So, so far I have no issues with that. So, so far I have no issues with that. So, so far I have no issues with that. Okay? Okay? Okay? Then, Then, Then, I do agree that this may be like a first I do agree that this may be like a first I do agree that this may be like a first step into a slippery sto- slope, blah step into a slippery sto- slope, blah step into a slippery sto- slope, blah blah blah. blah blah. blah blah. I agree, and that is a sign of the I agree, and that is a sign of the I agree, and that is a sign of the times. times. times. But I currently do not see why you But I currently do not see why you But I currently do not see why you should then start using something like should then start using something like should then start using something like libri systemd or whatever it was called. libri systemd or whatever it was called. libri systemd or whatever it was called. Uh um Where is it? Was it this one? Where is it? Was it this one? Here. Liberated systemd. Here. Liberated systemd. Here. Liberated systemd. Like I think that is a little bit over Like I think that is a little bit over Like I think that is a little bit over the top to call liberated to call the top to call liberated to call the top to call liberated to call systemd liberated just because it systemd liberated just because it systemd liberated just because it doesn't have a birth date field. doesn't have a birth date field. doesn't have a birth date field. Like I don't know. That that is seems Like I don't know. That that is seems Like I don't know. That that is seems like a little bit of an overreaction to like a little bit of an overreaction to like a little bit of an overreaction to me. me. me. But then again, I am not But then again, I am not But then again, I am not one of these Edward Snowden types who is one of these Edward Snowden types who is one of these Edward Snowden types who is a true privacy a true privacy a true privacy advocate, right? Like I am not advocate, right? Like I am not advocate, right? Like I am not I I I I I I I use Linux because I'm I don't want I use Linux because I'm I don't want I use Linux because I'm I don't want Microsoft scanning my computer and Microsoft scanning my computer and Microsoft scanning my computer and recording my voice.

recording my voice. recording my voice. But I am not to the level where having But I am not to the level where having But I am not to the level where having an age field that I can fill out myself an age field that I can fill out myself an age field that I can fill out myself is a problem for me. Like I I do I'm not is a problem for me. Like I I do I'm not is a problem for me. Like I I do I'm not that privacy concerned myself. And that that privacy concerned myself. And that that privacy concerned myself. And that only you can decide for yourself. But that is basically my uh my current But that is basically my uh my current stance on this. If you want to open If you want to open a cover another open source drama, look a cover another open source drama, look a cover another open source drama, look at EuroOffice, okay? So, let's do at EuroOffice, okay? So, let's do at EuroOffice, okay? So, let's do EuroOffice. Yes, I I I was actually looking into Yes, I I I was actually looking into this um the the the Schleswig-Holstein, the Schleswig-Holstein, the Schleswig-Holstein, a German a German a German um um um German municipality actually went fully German municipality actually went fully German municipality actually went fully open source recently. open source recently. open source recently. Uh this is just the first step to a zero Uh this is just the first step to a zero Uh this is just the first step to a zero trust system. trust system. trust system. Lots of geopolitics, yeah.

Okay. Okay. I wouldn't worry about a career I wouldn't worry about a career I wouldn't worry about a career regarding devops. It's safe for now. regarding devops. It's safe for now. regarding devops. It's safe for now. Yes, I do agree. Yes, I do agree. Yes, I do agree. What Linux What Linux What Linux should should should you use yourself as those color tiles at you use yourself as those color tiles at you use yourself as those color tiles at the bottom your page? I'm using Fedora. the bottom your page? I'm using Fedora. the bottom your page? I'm using Fedora. Um Um Um I'm using Fedora Atomic Sway. So, yeah. That is my current stance on So, yeah. That is my current stance on it. I hope this was useful to you guys it. I hope this was useful to you guys it. I hope this was useful to you guys to also get a sense of the to also get a sense of the to also get a sense of the age verification drama. age verification drama. age verification drama. And Grok as I hope you can see how And Grok as I hope you can see how And Grok as I hope you can see how useful Grok has been, useful Grok has been, useful Grok has been, how fast it is, but also how it's able how fast it is, but also how it's able how fast it is, but also how it's able to search to search to search so much quickly and also including X so much quickly and also including X so much quickly and also including X itself. itself. itself. So, yeah. I think it's currently a So, yeah. I think it's currently a So, yeah. I think it's currently a little bit overblown. I'm not that little bit overblown. I'm not that little bit overblown. I'm not that worried. worried. worried. It is something to follow, but It is something to follow, but It is something to follow, but so far to me it seems like a little bit so far to me it seems like a little bit so far to me it seems like a little bit clickbaity clickbaity clickbaity um um um overdone YouTube common YouTube stuff overdone YouTube common YouTube stuff overdone YouTube common YouTube stuff right now.

right now. right now. But I do respect that some people take But I do respect that some people take But I do respect that some people take this very seriously. this very seriously. this very seriously. And I'm also very happy that there are And I'm also very happy that there are And I'm also very happy that there are already a large already a large already a large um um um list of Linux distributions that are list of Linux distributions that are list of Linux distributions that are explicitly saying no. explicitly saying no. explicitly saying no. So, if you somehow have an issue with So, if you somehow have an issue with So, if you somehow have an issue with it, it, it, then there is there are alternatives for then there is there are alternatives for then there is there are alternatives for you. You can just go to Void Linux, for you. You can just go to Void Linux, for you. You can just go to Void Linux, for example. example. example. And just know that if you these are like And just know that if you these are like And just know that if you these are like I only know about Void, but I only know about Void, but I only know about Void, but if you're using Void, for example, if you're using Void, for example, if you're using Void, for example, that's not using systemd, and I actually that's not using systemd, and I actually that's not using systemd, and I actually apparen- probably all of these apparen- probably all of these apparen- probably all of these by definition are not systemd by definition are not systemd by definition are not systemd uh distros. uh distros. uh distros. Like by definition you are using Like by definition you are using Like by definition you are using something that is not going to be very something that is not going to be very something that is not going to be very relevant to your career. relevant to your career. relevant to your career. So, So, So, that is what I would say to that, that that is what I would say to that, that that is what I would say to that, that perhaps you would have like your fully perhaps you would have like your fully perhaps you would have like your fully private system private system private system that is completely like private, no age, that is completely like private, no age, that is completely like private, no age, no- nothing no- nothing no- nothing for yeah, browsing stuff that is maybe a for yeah, browsing stuff that is maybe a for yeah, browsing stuff that is maybe a bit shadier and you don't want anyone to bit shadier and you don't want anyone to bit shadier and you don't want anyone to know about that.

know about that. know about that. And then your second system is an is a And then your second system is an is a And then your second system is an is a system that includes your age system that includes your age system that includes your age and your passport, even if it comes that and your passport, even if it comes that and your passport, even if it comes that far. Like I don't see that happening far. Like I don't see that happening far. Like I don't see that happening anytime soon. But let's say in 5 years anytime soon. But let's say in 5 years anytime soon. But let's say in 5 years you are required to create to scan your you are required to create to scan your you are required to create to scan your passport when you in when you create an passport when you in when you create an passport when you in when you create an account on Linux, for example. account on Linux, for example. account on Linux, for example. Like at that stage I would still do that Like at that stage I would still do that Like at that stage I would still do that because that means that because that means that because that means that every job that uses Linux by definition every job that uses Linux by definition every job that uses Linux by definition requires you to do that, too. requires you to do that, too. requires you to do that, too. So, So, So, like I would choose scanning my passport like I would choose scanning my passport like I would choose scanning my passport over being employed and having making over being employed and having making over being employed and having making six figures a year. six figures a year. six figures a year. And yeah, maybe I And yeah, maybe I And yeah, maybe I I don't know. That is my stance on it. I don't know. That is my stance on it. I don't know. That is my stance on it. And And And yeah, I'm glad I did this. I'm glad I yeah, I'm glad I did this. I'm glad I yeah, I'm glad I did this. I'm glad I researched it. I hope this was useful researched it. I hope this was useful researched it. I hope this was useful for you guys. for you guys. for you guys. Follow the money, yeah. Follow the money, yeah. Follow the money, yeah. Uh law from CubeCraft. Hey, nice to meet Uh law from CubeCraft. Hey, nice to meet Uh law from CubeCraft. Hey, nice to meet nice to see some CubeCrafters here.

As long as there is a choice, like if As long as there is a choice, like if you have a choice of running the the you have a choice of running the the you have a choice of running the the operating system that you want, and operating system that you want, and operating system that you want, and there are Linux distributions that will there are Linux distributions that will there are Linux distributions that will allow you to do this, allow you to do this, allow you to do this, I will sleep soundly. I will sleep soundly. I will sleep soundly. So, I um that is basically where I'm at. So, I um that is basically where I'm at. So, I um that is basically where I'm at. In any case, if you have Linux skills, In any case, if you have Linux skills, In any case, if you have Linux skills, you will also have the skills to you will also have the skills to you will also have the skills to circumvent this in the future, right? circumvent this in the future, right? circumvent this in the future, right? So, there's all the more reason So, there's all the more reason So, there's all the more reason to learn Linux, to learn Linux, to learn Linux, especially when you are if you are especially when you are if you are especially when you are if you are watching this and you want to learn more watching this and you want to learn more watching this and you want to learn more about Linux, about Linux, about Linux, I have a free 8-hour course. I have a free 8-hour course. I have a free 8-hour course. It's the same course that my paid It's the same course that my paid It's the same course that my paid students use in the CubeCraft Career students use in the CubeCraft Career students use in the CubeCraft Career Accelerator, Accelerator, Accelerator, where I teach people to become where I teach people to become where I teach people to become six-figure devops engineers. six-figure devops engineers. six-figure devops engineers. That is what I do for a living. So, That is what I do for a living. So, That is what I do for a living. So, if you want the free 8-hour course, go if you want the free 8-hour course, go if you want the free 8-hour course, go here. It's school.com/linux completely here. It's school.com/linux completely here. It's school.com/linux completely for free. for free. for free. And if you learn the And if you learn the And if you learn the Linux skills, then if this age Linux skills, then if this age Linux skills, then if this age verification becomes a thing, then you verification becomes a thing, then you verification becomes a thing, then you will also know that you have the skills will also know that you have the skills will also know that you have the skills to install a different distribution that to install a different distribution that to install a different distribution that doesn't have the age verification doesn't have the age verification doesn't have the age verification if that is something that you um if that is something that you um if that is something that you um uh want to avoid in the future. So, in uh want to avoid in the future. So, in uh want to avoid in the future. So, in any case, no matter what happens, any case, no matter what happens, any case, no matter what happens, learn Linux well and you will be fine.

learn Linux well and you will be fine. learn Linux well and you will be fine. Okay? Okay? Okay? I hope you all are doing well. I hope you all are doing well. I hope you all are doing well. I hope this was useful to you, I hope this was useful to you, I hope this was useful to you, my fellow humans. I wish you all of the my fellow humans. I wish you all of the my fellow humans. I wish you all of the best. best. best. Have a great Sunday. Have a happy Have a great Sunday. Have a happy Have a great Sunday. Have a happy Easter. Easter. Easter. Uh Uh Uh call your mother or your father this call your mother or your father this call your mother or your father this afternoon and uh say hello to them. afternoon and uh say hello to them. afternoon and uh say hello to them. Know that and tell them that you think Know that and tell them that you think Know that and tell them that you think about them. about them. about them. Uh make the Uh make the Uh make the world a little bit better place. world a little bit better place. world a little bit better place. Thank you so much for your attention Thank you so much for your attention Thank you so much for your attention today, and I will see you in the next today, and I will see you in the next today, and I will see you in the next one. Have a good day, guys. Thank you for your time. I'm quite Thank you for your time. I'm quite impressed with your presentation skills. impressed with your presentation skills. impressed with your presentation skills. Hey, thank you. I appreciate that. Hey, thank you. I appreciate that. Hey, thank you. I appreciate that. Bye, guys. Happy Easter. Bye, guys. Happy Easter. Bye, guys. Happy Easter. Have a good time. Mr. Night Guy, hello Have a good time. Mr. Night Guy, hello Have a good time. Mr. Night Guy, hello on Twitch. Thanks for tuning in. on Twitch. Thanks for tuning in. on Twitch. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks, everybody. Thanks, everybody. Thanks, everybody. Have a good one.