🐧 Is Omarchy safe to use?

All right, looks like we're live. Hello All right, looks like we're live. Hello everyone. everyone. everyone. I am just setting everything up here it's been a while since I've been live, it's been a while since I've been live, so I'm just going to so I'm just going to so I'm just going to take a moment to set everything up. I have to get better at this. I have to I have to get better at this. I have to get a bit faster at this. But let's see. Are we even?

Are we even? Let's see. Do we have some people in the Let's see. Do we have some people in the Let's see. Do we have some people in the chat already? Yes, we do. Oh, great. chat already? Yes, we do. Oh, great. chat already? Yes, we do. Oh, great. There's some people in the chat. Hello There's some people in the chat. Hello There's some people in the chat. Hello everyone. everyone. everyone. Welcome. I am going to be reflecting on Omari as I am going to be reflecting on Omari as it is top of mind and getting very it is top of mind and getting very it is top of mind and getting very popular which is great. I will share some reflections and at the I will share some reflections and at the end I will um we'll do some Q&A as well. we'll do some Q&A as well. So I think we are almost So I think we are almost So I think we are almost up and running here. Good day from Australia. Hello there Good day from Australia. Hello there from Australia. What time is it now in from Australia. What time is it now in from Australia. What time is it now in Australia? Australia? Australia? It's 11:00 in the morning here. So, I It's 11:00 in the morning here. So, I It's 11:00 in the morning here. So, I was just having some coffee and was just having some coffee and was just having some coffee and thinking, yeah, maybe it is time to share some share some thoughts on a share some share some thoughts on a marching marching marching 2 a.m. from California. Wow, that's 2 a.m. from California. Wow, that's 2 a.m. from California. Wow, that's dedication watching this at 2 am.

dedication watching this at 2 am. dedication watching this at 2 am. Welcome. Welcome. Okay, it seems that I Welcome. Welcome. Okay, it seems that I Welcome. Welcome. Okay, it seems that I am online on X and that I am online on YouTube. People and that I am online on YouTube. People are chatting. Okay, that means I think are chatting. Okay, that means I think are chatting. Okay, that means I think I can I can I can uh checking YouTube here. How do I How do I save? Yeah. Okay. It seems that we are good. Yeah. Okay. It seems that we are good. Cool. Cool. Cool. And then we will do live chat. uh Q&A will be about more than um Omari uh Q&A will be about more than um Omari we can you can ask anything we can you can ask anything we can you can ask anything and we will see if I and we will see if I and we will see if I in in the moment if it is um suitable or in in the moment if it is um suitable or in in the moment if it is um suitable or not. Okay, then I can um 39 people right now. Okay.

39 people right now. Okay. So, So, So, I I I will share my screen. will share my screen. will share my screen. Shall I share it right now? Yeah. Well, Shall I share it right now? Yeah. Well, Shall I share it right now? Yeah. Well, no. Maybe maybe I I start with just um no. Maybe maybe I I start with just um no. Maybe maybe I I start with just um introducing a little bit here. So, welcome everyone. We got 39 43 So, welcome everyone. We got 39 43 people watching right now, which is people watching right now, which is people watching right now, which is good. It's been a while since I've been good. It's been a while since I've been good. It's been a while since I've been live. So really cool to see some people live. So really cool to see some people live. So really cool to see some people turning up. And turning up. And turning up. And um the title of this is going to attract um the title of this is going to attract um the title of this is going to attract a lot of people who think that I hate a lot of people who think that I hate a lot of people who think that I hate Omari and that I hate Mr. Dhh. Omari and that I hate Mr. Dhh. Omari and that I hate Mr. Dhh. Nothing could be further from the truth. Nothing could be further from the truth. Nothing could be further from the truth. So let me just start this stream by So let me just start this stream by So let me just start this stream by saying that I do not hate Omari. In saying that I do not hate Omari. In saying that I do not hate Omari. In fact, I am really happy with what I'm fact, I am really happy with what I'm fact, I am really happy with what I'm seeing with Omari. seeing with Omari. seeing with Omari. I what I'm seeing is a person DHH with a I what I'm seeing is a person DHH with a I what I'm seeing is a person DHH with a lot of resources lot of resources lot of resources who could spend his time on anything in who could spend his time on anything in who could spend his time on anything in the world yet somehow he chooses to the world yet somehow he chooses to the world yet somehow he chooses to spend it on building a Linux spend it on building a Linux spend it on building a Linux distribution which I think is super distribution which I think is super distribution which I think is super admirable. I think that's fantastic admirable. I think that's fantastic admirable. I think that's fantastic because um I I wasn't aware of Mr. DHH because um I I wasn't aware of Mr. DHH because um I I wasn't aware of Mr. DHH um ever like I only he only came on my um ever like I only he only came on my um ever like I only he only came on my radar when Omari came up and he is a

radar when Omari came up and he is a radar when Omari came up and he is a legend in the tech industry actually. legend in the tech industry actually. legend in the tech industry actually. I've read several of his books um and I I've read several of his books um and I I've read several of his books um and I did never made the connection that he did never made the connection that he did never made the connection that he was actually DHH. So I I have nothing was actually DHH. So I I have nothing was actually DHH. So I I have nothing against him and and I only I I think against him and and I only I I think against him and and I only I I think it's amazing what he is doing especially it's amazing what he is doing especially it's amazing what he is doing especially because he has so much resources and because he has so much resources and because he has so much resources and chooses to use it on Linux and I think chooses to use it on Linux and I think chooses to use it on Linux and I think that's an amazing thing that's happening that's an amazing thing that's happening that's an amazing thing that's happening because with his energy if you have seen because with his energy if you have seen because with his energy if you have seen any of his um any of his um any of his um of his podcast recently and his videos of his podcast recently and his videos of his podcast recently and his videos the man has so much energy and the man has so much energy and the man has so much energy and positivity around Linux and he wants positivity around Linux and he wants positivity around Linux and he wants wants to make some changes. He has some wants to make some changes. He has some wants to make some changes. He has some spicy takes and I think with his, you spicy takes and I think with his, you spicy takes and I think with his, you know, reach like he has 900,000 people know, reach like he has 900,000 people know, reach like he has 900,000 people following him on on X alone. I think his following him on on X alone. I think his following him on on X alone. I think his his fire, his fire and his passion for his fire, his fire and his passion for his fire, his fire and his passion for anything he puts his mind to is only anything he puts his mind to is only anything he puts his mind to is only going to be a positive thing for Linux.

going to be a positive thing for Linux. going to be a positive thing for Linux. So, anyone here who comes in the chat So, anyone here who comes in the chat So, anyone here who comes in the chat and says, "Why do you hate Omari or and says, "Why do you hate Omari or and says, "Why do you hate Omari or DHH?" You're wrong. I don't hate him. I DHH?" You're wrong. I don't hate him. I DHH?" You're wrong. I don't hate him. I don't hate Omari and I think it's an ex don't hate Omari and I think it's an ex don't hate Omari and I think it's an ex it's a really positive thing that's it's a really positive thing that's it's a really positive thing that's that's happening here with him. that's happening here with him. that's happening here with him. Now that being said, I let I think now I Now that being said, I let I think now I Now that being said, I let I think now I can um start sharing my screen. With that being said, I have been um With that being said, I have been um tweeting a lot recently um around this tweeting a lot recently um around this tweeting a lot recently um around this topic and DHH has also topic and DHH has also topic and DHH has also uh replied to some of these tweets. uh replied to some of these tweets. uh replied to some of these tweets. So, that was actually really cool to see So, that was actually really cool to see So, that was actually really cool to see him. Oh, wait. Maybe I should I see that him. Oh, wait. Maybe I should I see that him. Oh, wait. Maybe I should I see that my layout is a little bit off. One my layout is a little bit off. One my layout is a little bit off. One second. second. second. How do I do that again? How do I do that again? How do I do that again? Uh scenes.

scenes. No. No. No. Oh, here. Layout Oh, here. Layout Oh, here. Layout here. Now it's like a nice corner cam here. Now it's like a nice corner cam here. Now it's like a nice corner cam like like we used to. like like we used to. like like we used to. Okay. Um so now that the layout is done, Okay. Um so now that the layout is done, Okay. Um so now that the layout is done, like I've been tweeting quite a a bit like I've been tweeting quite a a bit like I've been tweeting quite a a bit recently recently recently and two things. I I and two things. I I and two things. I I um wrote this tweet. um wrote this tweet. um wrote this tweet. Unpopular opinion. Linux beginners Unpopular opinion. Linux beginners Unpopular opinion. Linux beginners should not start with Omari but just use should not start with Omari but just use should not start with Omari but just use Ubuntu instead. Much safer. And a window Ubuntu instead. Much safer. And a window Ubuntu instead. Much safer. And a window manager is not going to work for most manager is not going to work for most manager is not going to work for most people. But if you insist use uh use people. But if you insist use uh use people. But if you insist use uh use Fedora Sway Atomic got 30,000 views, 600 Fedora Sway Atomic got 30,000 views, 600 Fedora Sway Atomic got 30,000 views, 600 likes. But then um was it this one? He actually replied to one of my tweets. He actually replied to one of my tweets. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Maybe it is a Where is the tweet that he replied? He Where is the tweet that he replied? He actually replied to some of my tweets, actually replied to some of my tweets, actually replied to some of my tweets, namely um is it in my notifications? Maybe um is it in my notifications? Maybe priority What do we have to fix before you can

What do we have to fix before you can recommend starting with Omari? Here's recommend starting with Omari? Here's recommend starting with Omari? Here's the tweet. the tweet. the tweet. This is the This is the tweet that I This is the This is the tweet that I This is the This is the tweet that I wrote that 17 almost 100,000 views, wrote that 17 almost 100,000 views, wrote that 17 almost 100,000 views, almost 700 likes, and he replied to me. almost 700 likes, and he replied to me. almost 700 likes, and he replied to me. And actually, he is uh he's following me And actually, he is uh he's following me And actually, he is uh he's following me too, which I which I actually consider too, which I which I actually consider too, which I which I actually consider an honor having a legend like that an honor having a legend like that an honor having a legend like that following me on X, that's actually following me on X, that's actually following me on X, that's actually really cool. Um, so really cool. Um, so really cool. Um, so he replied, "What do we need to fix before you can "What do we need to fix before you can recommend starting with Omari?" recommend starting with Omari?" recommend starting with Omari?" And I replied to a tweet. This tweet was And I replied to a tweet. This tweet was And I replied to a tweet. This tweet was sparked by a tweet he wrote, "There's no sparked by a tweet he wrote, "There's no sparked by a tweet he wrote, "There's no problems blocking Linux desktop adoption problems blocking Linux desktop adoption problems blocking Linux desktop adoption that we can fix with agents and $10 that we can fix with agents and $10 that we can fix with agents and $10 million." So, if you don't know, he million." So, if you don't know, he million." So, if you don't know, he raised a fund um of $10 million now raised a fund um of $10 million now raised a fund um of $10 million now because of course he's a powerful person because of course he's a powerful person because of course he's a powerful person with lots of contacts. He knows these with lots of contacts. He knows these with lots of contacts. He knows these founders that have hundreds of millions founders that have hundreds of millions founders that have hundreds of millions of dollars and then he got them to of dollars and then he got them to of dollars and then he got them to invest or or to donate to a fund for for invest or or to donate to a fund for for invest or or to donate to a fund for for Omari, which is amazing.

Omari, which is amazing. Omari, which is amazing. So So So from this tweet I gather that his from this tweet I gather that his from this tweet I gather that his mission like if you base it on this mission like if you base it on this mission like if you base it on this tweet his mission seems to be that we tweet his mission seems to be that we tweet his mission seems to be that we are now um that Omari is is to be a are now um that Omari is is to be a are now um that Omari is is to be a vehicle for Linux desktop adoption vehicle for Linux desktop adoption vehicle for Linux desktop adoption desktop Linux adoption right he is a u desktop Linux adoption right he is a u desktop Linux adoption right he is a u he he directly equates his $10 million he he directly equates his $10 million he he directly equates his $10 million to Linux desktop adoption so to Linux desktop adoption so to Linux desktop adoption so as I gather Omari started out as a more as I gather Omari started out as a more as I gather Omari started out as a more of a dev operating system and now it's of a dev operating system and now it's of a dev operating system and now it's turning into something that um is going turning into something that um is going turning into something that um is going to help people adopt Linux and it's to help people adopt Linux and it's to help people adopt Linux and it's supposed to be become it's becoming a supposed to be become it's becoming a supposed to be become it's becoming a very popular thing. Also recently very popular thing. Also recently very popular thing. Also recently network Chuck made a video about it. network Chuck made a video about it. network Chuck made a video about it. Well, he has millions of subscribers and Well, he has millions of subscribers and Well, he has millions of subscribers and of course this has given him Omari a lot of course this has given him Omari a lot of course this has given him Omari a lot of exposure. I also made a video about of exposure. I also made a video about of exposure. I also made a video about Omari with my 120,000 subscribers on Omari with my 120,000 subscribers on Omari with my 120,000 subscribers on YouTube.

YouTube. YouTube. So what he is um um So what he is um um So what he is um um he he is going to he's aiming for broad he he is going to he's aiming for broad he he is going to he's aiming for broad Linux adoption now and this is where I Linux adoption now and this is where I Linux adoption now and this is where I am getting am getting am getting um my concerns um my concerns um my concerns because I because I because I also this week uh on my ex timeline I've also this week uh on my ex timeline I've also this week uh on my ex timeline I've seen multiple very concerning exploits seen multiple very concerning exploits seen multiple very concerning exploits uh you March. So here's a exploit that uh you March. So here's a exploit that uh you March. So here's a exploit that has a live key logger tested on a local has a live key logger tested on a local has a live key logger tested on a local server for safety purposes server for safety purposes server for safety purposes and another one one that came yesterday. and another one one that came yesterday. and another one one that came yesterday. So with the rise of pop popularity for So with the rise of pop popularity for So with the rise of pop popularity for March, there'll be a huge influx of new March, there'll be a huge influx of new March, there'll be a huge influx of new Linux users who don't understand the Linux users who don't understand the Linux users who don't understand the implications of using the Arch user implications of using the Arch user implications of using the Arch user repository and that they're pulling in repository and that they're pulling in repository and that they're pulling in software that can do anything. Okay. software that can do anything. Okay. software that can do anything. Okay. So there's the po there is the issue So there's the po there is the issue So there's the po there is the issue that for example one recent one here. So that for example one recent one here. So that for example one recent one here. So malicious package on the arch user party malicious package on the arch user party malicious package on the arch user party is handing attackers root access to is handing attackers root access to is handing attackers root access to developer machines over tail skill.

developer machines over tail skill. developer machines over tail skill. So they set up a package called So they set up a package called So they set up a package called hyperland fixes and then this package hyperland fixes and then this package hyperland fixes and then this package exposes a port and over the tail skill exposes a port and over the tail skill exposes a port and over the tail skill network uh people can then enter your network uh people can then enter your network uh people can then enter your um your your your machine and get root um your your your machine and get root um your your your machine and get root access to it. Well, anyone who has done access to it. Well, anyone who has done access to it. Well, anyone who has done a little bit of Linux knows that this is a little bit of Linux knows that this is a little bit of Linux knows that this is a problem. Okay. So the issue then is a problem. Okay. So the issue then is a problem. Okay. So the issue then is that on the one hand we have a very that on the one hand we have a very that on the one hand we have a very enthusiastic movement where people are enthusiastic movement where people are enthusiastic movement where people are going to be adopting Arch Linux and going to be adopting Arch Linux and going to be adopting Arch Linux and thinking that they're doing something thinking that they're doing something thinking that they're doing something cool and novel and great at the same cool and novel and great at the same cool and novel and great at the same time they then get access to something time they then get access to something time they then get access to something very powerful namely the Arch user very powerful namely the Arch user very powerful namely the Arch user repository repository repository without necessarily understanding the without necessarily understanding the without necessarily understanding the implications of that. Someone who switches from Windows Someone who switches from Windows directly to Arch Linux cannot be directly to Arch Linux cannot be directly to Arch Linux cannot be expected to know the implications of expected to know the implications of expected to know the implications of using the Arch user repository. And that using the Arch user repository. And that using the Arch user repository. And that is one of my biggest concerns with Omari is one of my biggest concerns with Omari is one of my biggest concerns with Omari is that it um at this point it pulls in is that it um at this point it pulls in is that it um at this point it pulls in packages from the Arch user repository packages from the Arch user repository packages from the Arch user repository and it's using Hyperland. So I can and it's using Hyperland. So I can and it's using Hyperland. So I can totally see a um new person totally see a um new person totally see a um new person going on Arch Linux for and after a week

going on Arch Linux for and after a week going on Arch Linux for and after a week they encounter a a package called they encounter a a package called they encounter a a package called Hyperland fixes on the Arch user report Hyperland fixes on the Arch user report Hyperland fixes on the Arch user report repository and I can totally see how repository and I can totally see how repository and I can totally see how some would then think well let's try it some would then think well let's try it some would then think well let's try it out like let's let's see if it makes it out like let's let's see if it makes it out like let's let's see if it makes it even more beautiful for example even more beautiful for example even more beautiful for example that's one of Um, one of the issues that that's one of Um, one of the issues that that's one of Um, one of the issues that I have, okay, I have, okay, I have, okay, you have to understand what the arch us you have to understand what the arch us you have to understand what the arch us repository is and what it does in order repository is and what it does in order repository is and what it does in order to use it responsibly. And that is one to use it responsibly. And that is one to use it responsibly. And that is one of my biggest concerns with this that we of my biggest concerns with this that we of my biggest concerns with this that we have this big influx of people who are have this big influx of people who are have this big influx of people who are going to be randomly pulling in packages going to be randomly pulling in packages going to be randomly pulling in packages without actually knowing what they're without actually knowing what they're without actually knowing what they're doing. doing. doing. So for those who do who don't know like So for those who do who don't know like So for those who do who don't know like the arch wiki the arch wiki the arch wiki um is very explicit about this is very explicit about this is a communitydriven repository for Arch is a communitydriven repository for Arch is a communitydriven repository for Arch Linux users. Okay. It it it um contains Linux users. Okay. It it it um contains Linux users. Okay. It it it um contains package builds and it basically com bas package builds and it basically com bas package builds and it basically com bas it it it is a recipe for you to compile it it it is a recipe for you to compile it it it is a recipe for you to compile packages from source code.

packages from source code. packages from source code. Now the arch user Oh, it says here Now the arch user Oh, it says here Now the arch user Oh, it says here literally the AUR packages are user literally the AUR packages are user literally the AUR packages are user prodduced content. They're completely prodduced content. They're completely prodduced content. They're completely unofficial and have not been thoroughly unofficial and have not been thoroughly unofficial and have not been thoroughly vetted. Any use of the provided files is vetted. Any use of the provided files is vetted. Any use of the provided files is at your own risk. Okay, so hackers at your own risk. Okay, so hackers at your own risk. Okay, so hackers can submit packages to the arch user can submit packages to the arch user can submit packages to the arch user repository like hyperland fixes like repository like hyperland fixes like repository like hyperland fixes like this this this and and and without anyone looking at it, it is without anyone looking at it, it is without anyone looking at it, it is available in the repository. available in the repository. available in the repository. And because hackers know that there's And because hackers know that there's And because hackers know that there's this big influx of incompetent people this big influx of incompetent people this big influx of incompetent people who are now suddenly using Arch Linux, who are now suddenly using Arch Linux, who are now suddenly using Arch Linux, of course, they're going to um exploit of course, they're going to um exploit of course, they're going to um exploit this as much as as they can. this as much as as they can. this as much as as they can. The Arch user repository has multiple The Arch user repository has multiple The Arch user repository has multiple incidents of malware being discovered in incidents of malware being discovered in incidents of malware being discovered in there because they don't um because there because they don't um because there because they don't um because nobody is actually vetting the code. nobody is actually vetting the code. nobody is actually vetting the code. There's no process around that. Now There's no process around that. Now There's no process around that. Now comparing that with something like comparing that with something like comparing that with something like Ubuntu Ubuntu Ubuntu where you would have the apt package where you would have the apt package where you would have the apt package manager and the Ubuntu pack repository.

manager and the Ubuntu pack repository. manager and the Ubuntu pack repository. Ubuntu is built by something by a Ubuntu is built by something by a Ubuntu is built by something by a company called Canonicle who also company called Canonicle who also company called Canonicle who also provides Linux to enterprise customers. provides Linux to enterprise customers. provides Linux to enterprise customers. Therefore as part of their service what Therefore as part of their service what Therefore as part of their service what they do is they review packages in the they do is they review packages in the they do is they review packages in the repository. They will make sure that the repository. They will make sure that the repository. They will make sure that the stuff that gets into the repository is stuff that gets into the repository is stuff that gets into the repository is actually safe. There is a process of actually safe. There is a process of actually safe. There is a process of verification in place to varying degrees verification in place to varying degrees verification in place to varying degrees of depth and intensity. I think that is much more suited for a I think that is much more suited for a newer user because then at least like newer user because then at least like newer user because then at least like it's never safe. It's never completely it's never safe. It's never completely it's never safe. It's never completely safe, but at least you have some safe, but at least you have some safe, but at least you have some expectation that what you're pulling in expectation that what you're pulling in expectation that what you're pulling in it can be considered moderately safe at it can be considered moderately safe at it can be considered moderately safe at least. Okay, so with that's the AUR least. Okay, so with that's the AUR least. Okay, so with that's the AUR point. point. point. I see a lot of comments here. Oh, 95 I see a lot of comments here. Oh, 95 I see a lot of comments here. Oh, 95 people. people. people. Okay, so they're working on replacing the AUR they're working on replacing the AUR with a custom package manager. Yeah, with a custom package manager. Yeah, with a custom package manager. Yeah, that's really good.

there are alternatives to this like what there are alternatives to this like what what what like you you can use Arch what what like you you can use Arch what what like you you can use Arch Linux and also have a Linux and also have a Linux and also have a um more secure um more secure um more secure um approach. And by no means am I going um approach. And by no means am I going um approach. And by no means am I going to pretend that I am a Linux security to pretend that I am a Linux security to pretend that I am a Linux security expert. expert. expert. I am just a guy who has used Linux for I am just a guy who has used Linux for I am just a guy who has used Linux for over a decade and who has worked with it over a decade and who has worked with it over a decade and who has worked with it professionally. So I do have um like a professionally. So I do have um like a professionally. So I do have um like a security mindset. But there are people security mindset. But there are people security mindset. But there are people out there who are much smarter than I am out there who are much smarter than I am out there who are much smarter than I am who have much more skills with this than who have much more skills with this than who have much more skills with this than I than I have. So everything I say to I than I have. So everything I say to I than I have. So everything I say to you is not meant as dogma or the truth. you is not meant as dogma or the truth. you is not meant as dogma or the truth. I'm just I'm just I'm just uh encouraging you to do your own uh encouraging you to do your own uh encouraging you to do your own research and to reflect. Okay? research and to reflect. Okay? research and to reflect. Okay? I just encourage you to when you use I just encourage you to when you use I just encourage you to when you use Omari, educate yourself on the risks of Omari, educate yourself on the risks of Omari, educate yourself on the risks of using Arch Linux and the Arch user using Arch Linux and the Arch user using Arch Linux and the Arch user repository because the risk is high.

repository because the risk is high. repository because the risk is high. Now I am a exarchch Linux user. I was on Now I am a exarchch Linux user. I was on Now I am a exarchch Linux user. I was on Arch Linux for many years and I built my Arch Linux for many years and I built my Arch Linux for many years and I built my own Arch um system. I didn't use a own Arch um system. I didn't use a own Arch um system. I didn't use a prepackaged one like like Omari because prepackaged one like like Omari because prepackaged one like like Omari because all Omari is is a you take the Arch all Omari is is a you take the Arch all Omari is is a you take the Arch Linux distribution Linux distribution Linux distribution with the package manager and then you with the package manager and then you with the package manager and then you add layers of configuration to it so add layers of configuration to it so add layers of configuration to it so that it works out of the box and it that it works out of the box and it that it works out of the box and it becomes beautiful and he has done a lot becomes beautiful and he has done a lot becomes beautiful and he has done a lot of amazing work on Omari itself and how of amazing work on Omari itself and how of amazing work on Omari itself and how to get it to install it as fast as to get it to install it as fast as to get it to install it as fast as possible to make it accessible. All of possible to make it accessible. All of possible to make it accessible. All of that is great, but I I just did that that is great, but I I just did that that is great, but I I just did that myself. It's just Arch with a window myself. It's just Arch with a window myself. It's just Arch with a window manager and configuration files, which manager and configuration files, which manager and configuration files, which is a lot of work. Like, he spent 3,000 is a lot of work. Like, he spent 3,000 is a lot of work. Like, he spent 3,000 hours on building that. However, he also hours on building that. However, he also hours on building that. However, he also said during a recent interview on the said during a recent interview on the said during a recent interview on the Lex Friedman podcast, Lex Friedman podcast, Lex Friedman podcast, Lex Friedman, DHH. In this podcast, this was um DHH. In this podcast, this was um released five hours. It's a fivehour released five hours. It's a fivehour released five hours. It's a fivehour podcast that was released three days podcast that was released three days podcast that was released three days ago, and I listened to um the first ago, and I listened to um the first ago, and I listened to um the first piece of it. I'm I'm listening to it on piece of it. I'm I'm listening to it on piece of it. I'm I'm listening to it on my walks and in there in the podcast he my walks and in there in the podcast he my walks and in there in the podcast he mentions that he has been working on mentions that he has been working on mentions that he has been working on Omari for I think over 3,000 hours

Omari for I think over 3,000 hours Omari for I think over 3,000 hours already and he's now using a lot of AI already and he's now using a lot of AI already and he's now using a lot of AI to build this. And in the podcast he to build this. And in the podcast he to build this. And in the podcast he says literally says that he's not even says literally says that he's not even says literally says that he's not even looking at the code anymore. the he looking at the code anymore. the he looking at the code anymore. the he prompts the agents to build the code to prompts the agents to build the code to prompts the agents to build the code to build what he wants to build and then he build what he wants to build and then he build what he wants to build and then he asks agents to review the pull requests asks agents to review the pull requests asks agents to review the pull requests and at the same time when someone and at the same time when someone and at the same time when someone submits a pull request he's not looking submits a pull request he's not looking submits a pull request he's not looking at them anymore he is um using agents to at them anymore he is um using agents to at them anymore he is um using agents to review them so he's not looking at the review them so he's not looking at the review them so he's not looking at the code now I'm not here to judge if that code now I'm not here to judge if that code now I'm not here to judge if that is right or wrong is right or wrong is right or wrong uh I just want to mention that fact to uh I just want to mention that fact to uh I just want to mention that fact to you so you can make your own decision you so you can make your own decision you so you can make your own decision like do you want to use a distribution like do you want to use a distribution like do you want to use a distribution where there are no there's well not much where there are no there's well not much where there are no there's well not much human um human um human um review involved at least based on what review involved at least based on what review involved at least based on what he says in the podcast he says in the podcast he says in the podcast I personally I I I personally don't like I personally I I I personally don't like I personally I I I personally don't like that I would rather have a for example that I would rather have a for example that I would rather have a for example if you use Fedora if you use Fedora if you use Fedora then you get Redhead which is a billion then you get Redhead which is a billion then you get Redhead which is a billion dollar company Redhead is actually dollar company Redhead is actually dollar company Redhead is actually vetting the packages and building it and vetting the packages and building it and vetting the packages and building it and they have teams of people who are they have teams of people who are they have teams of people who are actually reviewing pull requests etc. So actually reviewing pull requests etc. So actually reviewing pull requests etc. So I personally because I value security I personally because I value security I personally because I value security would lean towards that. Now with the would lean towards that. Now with the would lean towards that. Now with the $10 million that they have now they're $10 million that they have now they're $10 million that they have now they're going to be doing amazing things. I'm

going to be doing amazing things. I'm going to be doing amazing things. I'm just mentioning this fact to you so you just mentioning this fact to you so you just mentioning this fact to you so you can make your own decision. can make your own decision. can make your own decision. All of this is just meant I'm just All of this is just meant I'm just All of this is just meant I'm just trying to raise some awareness around trying to raise some awareness around trying to raise some awareness around Omari security. Another thing with which I have my Another thing with which I have my thoughts about is the Omari thoughts about is the Omari thoughts about is the Omari plug-in system. Let's see. Let's see. Is that on the website? plugins. There we go. Discover Omari plugins. There we go. Discover Omari plugins. Browse plugins. Does it say uh yeah, Browse plugins. Does it say uh yeah, there are 1765 there are 1765 there are 1765 community plugins. community plugins. community plugins. and and and a while ago he um he said that I think a while ago he um he said that I think a while ago he um he said that I think there about a thousand of these came in there about a thousand of these came in there about a thousand of these came in um in one week.

um in one week. um in one week. This is code that you can easily This is code that you can easily This is code that you can easily copy install command. So if I see a cool copy install command. So if I see a cool copy install command. So if I see a cool wallpaper engine for Omari wallpaper engine for Omari wallpaper engine for Omari oh copy install command. So I copy that oh copy install command. So I copy that oh copy install command. So I copy that I paste it and what do I get? I paste it and what do I get? I paste it and what do I get? github.com. github.com. github.com. So I'm just pulling in a git repo and So I'm just pulling in a git repo and So I'm just pulling in a git repo and add that. So anything I put in that git add that. So anything I put in that git add that. So anything I put in that git repo is going to be added and run to my repo is going to be added and run to my repo is going to be added and run to my Omari system. I seriously doubt that someone who comes I seriously doubt that someone who comes from Microsoft Windows and sees a cool from Microsoft Windows and sees a cool from Microsoft Windows and sees a cool hype video hype video hype video and who is not necessarily a developer and who is not necessarily a developer and who is not necessarily a developer but who is just interested in you know but who is just interested in you know but who is just interested in you know getting started on Linux. I seriously getting started on Linux. I seriously getting started on Linux. I seriously doubt that this person is going to then doubt that this person is going to then doubt that this person is going to then um check out this. And let's see, do we um check out this. And let's see, do we um check out this. And let's see, do we do we see the code here? We don't see the code here. We can click We don't see the code here. We can click here.

Okay. So we can read the code, but I Okay. So we can read the code, but I don't think that a person of the street don't think that a person of the street don't think that a person of the street who switches from Windows to Linux is who switches from Windows to Linux is who switches from Windows to Linux is actually going to check the source code actually going to check the source code actually going to check the source code here. They're just going to see a here. They're just going to see a here. They're just going to see a wallpaper engine for Omari. That's wallpaper engine for Omari. That's wallpaper engine for Omari. That's really cool. Let's install it. really cool. Let's install it. really cool. Let's install it. Like they it see that says that verified Like they it see that says that verified Like they it see that says that verified here. So there are automated checks. here. So there are automated checks. here. So there are automated checks. This is not a security audit, This is not a security audit, This is not a security audit, but Like there's no warnings here, right? Like there's no warnings here, right? It's just okay. Here, copy the install It's just okay. Here, copy the install It's just okay. Here, copy the install command. command. command. Okay, it says um it's not bound to Okay, it says um it's not bound to Okay, it says um it's not bound to marketplace verified um snapshot. marketplace verified um snapshot. marketplace verified um snapshot. Automated checks are not a security Automated checks are not a security Automated checks are not a security audit or guarantee. Okay, audit or guarantee. Okay, audit or guarantee. Okay, so they're not guaranteeing any security so they're not guaranteeing any security so they're not guaranteeing any security here, but basically anyone can commit here, but basically anyone can commit here, but basically anyone can commit any code here, publish it as a plug-in any code here, publish it as a plug-in any code here, publish it as a plug-in and run off the mill street run off the and run off the mill street run off the and run off the mill street run off the street people can copy this, install it street people can copy this, install it street people can copy this, install it to their system and expecting they get a to their system and expecting they get a to their system and expecting they get a wallpaper engine, but but it's it's a wallpaper engine, but but it's it's a wallpaper engine, but but it's it's a key logger or something like that. Like key logger or something like that. Like key logger or something like that. Like I have Syrians concerns around this I have Syrians concerns around this I have Syrians concerns around this because they make it because it makes it because they make it because it makes it because they make it because it makes it very easy for a hacker to deploy some very easy for a hacker to deploy some very easy for a hacker to deploy some malicious code to this. And the reason malicious code to this. And the reason malicious code to this. And the reason I'm saying all of this is not because I I'm saying all of this is not because I I'm saying all of this is not because I want to bash Omari because I think Omari want to bash Omari because I think Omari want to bash Omari because I think Omari is doing a really good thing by making is doing a really good thing by making is doing a really good thing by making people people people enthusiastic about Linux.

enthusiastic about Linux. enthusiastic about Linux. I just would I would hate to see I just would I would hate to see I just would I would hate to see something happen to the Omari project something happen to the Omari project something happen to the Omari project where someone exploits this and all of a where someone exploits this and all of a where someone exploits this and all of a sudden it gets a bad rep and it gets sudden it gets a bad rep and it gets sudden it gets a bad rep and it gets lots of people who get compromised and lots of people who get compromised and lots of people who get compromised and then the momentum of the project is then the momentum of the project is then the momentum of the project is lost. Okay, lost. Okay, lost. Okay, I think that is a I I would I would be I think that is a I I would I would be I think that is a I I would I would be very sad if that happens. Like I I very sad if that happens. Like I I very sad if that happens. Like I I wouldn't like that to happen. wouldn't like that to happen. wouldn't like that to happen. But But But if I were a hacker and I'm thinking, if I were a hacker and I'm thinking, if I were a hacker and I'm thinking, well, all of these hundreds of well, all of these hundreds of well, all of these hundreds of thousands, tens of thousands of people thousands, tens of thousands of people thousands, tens of thousands of people are now installing Omari. What will I do are now installing Omari. What will I do are now installing Omari. What will I do to get their credentials? This is the to get their credentials? This is the to get their credentials? This is the first place I would go. I I don't know. I I have my concerns I I don't know. I I have my concerns around this. Again, I'm not telling you around this. Again, I'm not telling you around this. Again, I'm not telling you what to do. I I just encourage you to what to do. I I just encourage you to what to do. I I just encourage you to reflect on this yourself. And if you do reflect on this yourself. And if you do reflect on this yourself. And if you do this, then by God, trudit this, then by God, trudit this, then by God, trudit any code that you pull in with a plugin any code that you pull in with a plugin any code that you pull in with a plugin like this. Okay? I have nothing against like this. Okay? I have nothing against like this. Okay? I have nothing against a plug-in system like this, but you have a plug-in system like this, but you have a plug-in system like this, but you have to know what you're doing and know to know what you're doing and know to know what you're doing and know exactly what you're pulling onto your exactly what you're pulling onto your exactly what you're pulling onto your computer.

But like the holy grail of of hacking is But like the holy grail of of hacking is remote code execution. remote code execution. remote code execution. Okay? Every hacker in the world tries to Okay? Every hacker in the world tries to Okay? Every hacker in the world tries to be able to execute code on a server. be able to execute code on a server. be able to execute code on a server. Well, you're basically doing that and Well, you're basically doing that and Well, you're basically doing that and you're allowing it. You're just saying, you're allowing it. You're just saying, you're allowing it. You're just saying, "Hey, please execute some code on my on "Hey, please execute some code on my on "Hey, please execute some code on my on my machine." Okay, my machine." Okay, my machine." Okay, that's the plug-in system. Now, finally, that's the plug-in system. Now, finally, that's the plug-in system. Now, finally, I I want to then we'll go to some Q&A. I I want to then we'll go to some Q&A. I I want to then we'll go to some Q&A. Um, finally, I just wanted I did write a Um, finally, I just wanted I did write a Um, finally, I just wanted I did write a tweet this morning tweet this morning tweet this morning about um making a suggestion about um making a suggestion about um making a suggestion to consider boot C to consider boot C to consider boot C for Omari. Let's see for Omari. Let's see for Omari. Let's see where did it go where did it go where did it go here. here. here. A proposal for DHH to consider boot C A proposal for DHH to consider boot C A proposal for DHH to consider boot C for Omari. for Omari. for Omari. I think security could be greatly I think security could be greatly I think security could be greatly improved by building signed Omari images improved by building signed Omari images improved by building signed Omari images and ship them as an immutable operating and ship them as an immutable operating and ship them as an immutable operating system to the users.

system to the users. system to the users. Everything can be configured as layers Everything can be configured as layers Everything can be configured as layers in the OCI image and the system can in the OCI image and the system can in the OCI image and the system can easily be rolled back to the previous easily be rolled back to the previous easily be rolled back to the previous version if problems arise. I've seen version if problems arise. I've seen version if problems arise. I've seen some suggestions to use Nyx, but I don't some suggestions to use Nyx, but I don't some suggestions to use Nyx, but I don't think that makes sense at all if the think that makes sense at all if the think that makes sense at all if the goal is to get people to switch from goal is to get people to switch from goal is to get people to switch from Windows and Mac to Linux. The learning Windows and Mac to Linux. The learning Windows and Mac to Linux. The learning curve is too steep and the community curve is too steep and the community curve is too steep and the community drama over at Nixxos is concerning. drama over at Nixxos is concerning. drama over at Nixxos is concerning. Disable the AUR and use flatback Disable the AUR and use flatback Disable the AUR and use flatback instead. It will be a lot more secure. instead. It will be a lot more secure. instead. It will be a lot more secure. Makes less sense to do this with a Makes less sense to do this with a Makes less sense to do this with a rolling release dro like Arch. But since rolling release dro like Arch. But since rolling release dro like Arch. But since packages are already held one month, you packages are already held one month, you packages are already held one month, you might as well ship it like a fully baked might as well ship it like a fully baked might as well ship it like a fully baked image. And some work has already been image. And some work has already been image. And some work has already been done with this uh on Arch actually with done with this uh on Arch actually with done with this uh on Arch actually with bland OS. Okay. So let's unpack this one bland OS. Okay. So let's unpack this one bland OS. Okay. So let's unpack this one a little bit. boot like I use Fedora a little bit. boot like I use Fedora a little bit. boot like I use Fedora atomic sway. This is an atomic desktop atomic sway. This is an atomic desktop atomic sway. This is an atomic desktop and an atomic desktop is an immutable and an atomic desktop is an immutable and an atomic desktop is an immutable OS. OS. OS. This is built by something called boot This is built by something called boot This is built by something called boot C. Your OS but containers. Bootc builds C. Your OS but containers. Bootc builds C. Your OS but containers. Bootc builds operating systems using containerization operating systems using containerization operating systems using containerization principles. Okay. So people when when principles. Okay. So people when when principles. Okay. So people when when you say build a um declarative operating you say build a um declarative operating you say build a um declarative operating system when if you want to declare your system when if you want to declare your system when if you want to declare your operating system in code people operating system in code people operating system in code people automatically will grab Nyx or Nyx OS automatically will grab Nyx or Nyx OS automatically will grab Nyx or Nyx OS but that's not the only way to to um but that's not the only way to to um but that's not the only way to to um declare your operating system as code.

declare your operating system as code. declare your operating system as code. Boot C uses uh OCI or doc or container Boot C uses uh OCI or doc or container Boot C uses uh OCI or doc or container images docker container images. Okay, so images docker container images. Okay, so images docker container images. Okay, so you have your layers and you install you have your layers and you install you have your layers and you install packages or or make changes to your packages or or make changes to your packages or or make changes to your layers and you then publish that as a layers and you then publish that as a layers and you then publish that as a bootable image. So when you boot your bootable image. So when you boot your bootable image. So when you boot your machine, it boots a it it boots from a machine, it boots a it it boots from a machine, it boots a it it boots from a container image. It's not running as a container image. It's not running as a container image. It's not running as a container like the container image you container like the container image you container like the container image you includes the kernel which used in boot includes the kernel which used in boot includes the kernel which used in boot but the base user space is not itself but the base user space is not itself but the base user space is not itself running in a container by default. So running in a container by default. So running in a container by default. So it's just systemd as p1 it's just systemd as p1 it's just systemd as p1 and from there everything um spawns like and from there everything um spawns like and from there everything um spawns like you can see that if I do ps3 you can see that if I do ps3 you can see that if I do ps3 on my system the I'm I'm running an on my system the I'm I'm running an on my system the I'm I'm running an immutable OS right now. System D is P1 immutable OS right now. System D is P1 immutable OS right now. System D is P1 and all the rest spawns from that. Okay, and all the rest spawns from that. Okay, and all the rest spawns from that. Okay, that's how that works. So that's how that works. So that's how that works. So what you achieve with this is that you what you achieve with this is that you what you achieve with this is that you can build a signed container image that can build a signed container image that can build a signed container image that DHH could build with Omari. You could DHH could build with Omari. You could DHH could build with Omari. You could you I don't recommend using Arch Linux you I don't recommend using Arch Linux you I don't recommend using Arch Linux for this, but it could be done. And then for this, but it could be done. And then for this, but it could be done. And then what you get is a container image that what you get is a container image that what you get is a container image that you can actually audit.

you can actually audit. you can actually audit. You can have a software bill of You can have a software bill of You can have a software bill of materials. You can scan each and every materials. You can scan each and every materials. You can scan each and every package that is included in this package that is included in this package that is included in this container image and have an audit trail container image and have an audit trail container image and have an audit trail of this. of this. of this. Instead of giving people like a complete Instead of giving people like a complete Instead of giving people like a complete access to the AUR and everything, you access to the AUR and everything, you access to the AUR and everything, you can make some better choices here in my can make some better choices here in my can make some better choices here in my opinion. So first of all you prepackage opinion. So first of all you prepackage opinion. So first of all you prepackage a working system as an immutable OS. You a working system as an immutable OS. You a working system as an immutable OS. You make the f you make the root file system make the f you make the root file system make the f you make the root file system read only which already makes everything read only which already makes everything read only which already makes everything much more secure. much more secure. much more secure. And secondly I would then suggest that And secondly I would then suggest that And secondly I would then suggest that he uses that that you would include he uses that that you would include he uses that that you would include flatpack flatpack flatpack instead of the arch user repository. So instead of the arch user repository. So instead of the arch user repository. So flatpack or rather flat hub. So flatpack flatpack or rather flat hub. So flatpack flatpack or rather flat hub. So flatpack is a system of packaging Linux is a system of packaging Linux is a system of packaging Linux applications and flat hub is a applications and flat hub is a applications and flat hub is a repository for that.

repository for that. repository for that. Now how is flat hub? Okay, so let's Now how is flat hub? Okay, so let's Now how is flat hub? Okay, so let's let's go let's take a step back. If you let's go let's take a step back. If you let's go let's take a step back. If you install something from the arch user install something from the arch user install something from the arch user repository, repository, repository, you get a package build and you build you get a package build and you build you get a package build and you build something from source code. Generally something from source code. Generally something from source code. Generally you end up with a binary that runs you end up with a binary that runs you end up with a binary that runs directly on your machine. Flatpack directly on your machine. Flatpack directly on your machine. Flatpack is um different in the sense that it is um different in the sense that it is um different in the sense that it runs the application inside of a sandbox runs the application inside of a sandbox runs the application inside of a sandbox and these sandboxes they get certain and these sandboxes they get certain and these sandboxes they get certain permissions and as you see it is it is permissions and as you see it is it is permissions and as you see it is it is um um um compatible with Arch Linux but compatible with Arch Linux but compatible with Arch Linux but Flatpack has a instead of just running Flatpack has a instead of just running Flatpack has a instead of just running the binary under your own user directly the binary under your own user directly the binary under your own user directly on Arch Linux flat pack requires you to on Arch Linux flat pack requires you to on Arch Linux flat pack requires you to approve of certain permissions and it approve of certain permissions and it approve of certain permissions and it will only give those those permissions will only give those those permissions will only give those those permissions to the application. So I don't know you to the application. So I don't know you to the application. So I don't know you you won't get access to the docker demon you won't get access to the docker demon you won't get access to the docker demon running as root from a flatp pack if running as root from a flatp pack if running as root from a flatp pack if it's configured correctly. So flatpack it's configured correctly. So flatpack it's configured correctly. So flatpack is a way of running applications in a is a way of running applications in a is a way of running applications in a sandbox. Now flat hub is the repository sandbox. Now flat hub is the repository sandbox. Now flat hub is the repository for this. So you have all of this all of for this. So you have all of this all of for this. So you have all of this all of these applications that are there.

these applications that are there. these applications that are there. Now, Now, Now, what's good about FlatHub what's good about FlatHub what's good about FlatHub is that you have a an audit. So, let's is that you have a an audit. So, let's is that you have a an audit. So, let's see. I was looking at this yesterday. Um, where was it? Um, where was it? Did I share that here? No. Oh, wait. I shared it in u No. Oh, wait. I shared it in u in my private DevOps community. Let me in my private DevOps community. Let me in my private DevOps community. Let me see are the docs. FlatHub a layered approach are the docs. FlatHub a layered approach from uh source to user. So flat pack from uh source to user. So flat pack from uh source to user. So flat pack security and sandboxing security and sandboxing security and sandboxing you have to give it permissions you have to give it permissions you have to give it permissions and here is a key section submission and and here is a key section submission and and here is a key section submission and human review. human review. human review. So this is the documentation of flat So this is the documentation of flat So this is the documentation of flat hub. Once an app is developed it must be hub. Once an app is developed it must be hub. Once an app is developed it must be submitted to flat hub for consideration submitted to flat hub for consideration submitted to flat hub for consideration to be hosted and distributed. At this to be hosted and distributed. At this to be hosted and distributed. At this stage human flatub reviewers will review stage human flatub reviewers will review stage human flatub reviewers will review the app to ensure it follows the the app to ensure it follows the the app to ensure it follows the requirements.

requirements. requirements. Of note, apps must be sandboxed with as Of note, apps must be sandboxed with as Of note, apps must be sandboxed with as narrow permissions as possible, narrow permissions as possible, narrow permissions as possible, must not be misleading or malicious, and must not be misleading or malicious, and must not be misleading or malicious, and app IDs must reflect the developer app IDs must reflect the developer app IDs must reflect the developer domain name. So consider this how domain name. So consider this how domain name. So consider this how different this is from the Arch user different this is from the Arch user different this is from the Arch user repository. repository. repository. When you want to When you want to When you want to submit a package to FlatHub, submit a package to FlatHub, submit a package to FlatHub, a human looks at it, verifies that it a human looks at it, verifies that it a human looks at it, verifies that it has that it is sandboxed and runs with has that it is sandboxed and runs with has that it is sandboxed and runs with minimal permissions. It verifies like if the app is like It verifies like if the app is like something malicious or not. And it must something malicious or not. And it must something malicious or not. And it must reflect the identity of the developer. reflect the identity of the developer. reflect the identity of the developer. That in itself is already a huge That in itself is already a huge That in itself is already a huge security measure because if it can security measure because if it can security measure because if it can always be traced to your domain naming always be traced to your domain naming always be traced to your domain naming or co-hosting location, something like or co-hosting location, something like or co-hosting location, something like that. It's tied to like an organization that. It's tied to like an organization that. It's tied to like an organization or a person, but it's less anonymous or a person, but it's less anonymous or a person, but it's less anonymous than just uploading a random package to than just uploading a random package to than just uploading a random package to the AUR. Okay, the AUR. Okay, the AUR. Okay, so this is not a guarantee for security.

so this is not a guarantee for security. so this is not a guarantee for security. Neither are they using are they actually Neither are they using are they actually Neither are they using are they actually reviewing the source code. They don't do reviewing the source code. They don't do reviewing the source code. They don't do that. It's still your responsibility to that. It's still your responsibility to that. It's still your responsibility to to uh verify that. That's just how it is to uh verify that. That's just how it is to uh verify that. That's just how it is with open- source software. with open- source software. with open- source software. But this is miles ahead of using the But this is miles ahead of using the But this is miles ahead of using the Arch user repository. And again, I have Arch user repository. And again, I have Arch user repository. And again, I have been an Arch Linux user for many years. been an Arch Linux user for many years. been an Arch Linux user for many years. I have now switched to Fedora I have now switched to Fedora I have now switched to Fedora well over six months ago. Been great. well over six months ago. Been great. well over six months ago. Been great. And I there's not a single pack package And I there's not a single pack package And I there's not a single pack package or application that I have missed from or application that I have missed from or application that I have missed from the AUR. Anything I need to do my work the AUR. Anything I need to do my work the AUR. Anything I need to do my work to create my content is available from to create my content is available from to create my content is available from flatub for guey applications. CLI flatub for guey applications. CLI flatub for guey applications. CLI applications are typically included in applications are typically included in applications are typically included in the package managers or I can just the package managers or I can just the package managers or I can just download the binary from GitHub from download the binary from GitHub from download the binary from GitHub from sources that I trust. sources that I trust. sources that I trust. So this is miles miles ahead of in terms So this is miles miles ahead of in terms So this is miles miles ahead of in terms of security um in terms of the arch user of security um in terms of the arch user of security um in terms of the arch user repository. So if you then have as I'm repository. So if you then have as I'm repository. So if you then have as I'm suggesting here if we build um let me suggesting here if we build um let me suggesting here if we build um let me see where is it see where is it see where is it if we build or if if Omari would be if we build or if if Omari would be if we build or if if Omari would be released as a um bootc image an released as a um bootc image an released as a um bootc image an immutable OS immutable OS immutable OS combined with flatp pack as a package

combined with flatp pack as a package combined with flatp pack as a package manager. I think that would be a huge manager. I think that would be a huge manager. I think that would be a huge improvement and I think that would be a improvement and I think that would be a improvement and I think that would be a really good way of making this more really good way of making this more really good way of making this more accessible in a secure way for Omari. So accessible in a secure way for Omari. So accessible in a secure way for Omari. So I I um proposed this someone mentioned I I um proposed this someone mentioned I I um proposed this someone mentioned that someone um that he that this was that someone um that he that this was that someone um that he that this was already proposed a while ago uh but DHH already proposed a while ago uh but DHH already proposed a while ago uh but DHH um closed it but this is one year ago. um closed it but this is one year ago. um closed it but this is one year ago. However, However, However, since then, like here, DHH is saying, since then, like here, DHH is saying, since then, like here, DHH is saying, "This DRO is designed for developers." "This DRO is designed for developers." "This DRO is designed for developers." And if we go back to that tweet I was And if we go back to that tweet I was And if we go back to that tweet I was sharing earlier, that I get the sense sharing earlier, that I get the sense sharing earlier, that I get the sense that it's a very different energy now, that it's a very different energy now, that it's a very different energy now, like we're now like fighting for Linux like we're now like fighting for Linux like we're now like fighting for Linux desktop adoption and making as many desktop adoption and making as many desktop adoption and making as many people uh use it as possible, right? people uh use it as possible, right? people uh use it as possible, right? So I think if that is the goal and that So I think if that is the goal and that So I think if that is the goal and that is an assumption of mine like I am not is an assumption of mine like I am not is an assumption of mine like I am not him I am not involved with the with the him I am not involved with the with the him I am not involved with the with the organization or anything like that but organization or anything like that but organization or anything like that but if that is the goal to get people to use if that is the goal to get people to use if that is the goal to get people to use it as many as people as possible then I it as many as people as possible then I it as many as people as possible then I would say reconsider an immutable Omari would say reconsider an immutable Omari would say reconsider an immutable Omari like some of the most accessible Linux like some of the most accessible Linux like some of the most accessible Linux distributions like basite distributions like basite distributions like basite use this and I get a lot of people use this and I get a lot of people use this and I get a lot of people agreeing with this proposal here on my agreeing with this proposal here on my agreeing with this proposal here on my tweet tweet tweet and I think that would be a big step and I think that would be a big step and I think that would be a big step forward forward forward because yeah again I don't think it

because yeah again I don't think it because yeah again I don't think it really makes sense to use Arch Linux and really makes sense to use Arch Linux and really makes sense to use Arch Linux and boot C um together because the whole boot C um together because the whole boot C um together because the whole point of using Arch Linux is doing is point of using Arch Linux is doing is point of using Arch Linux is doing is being bleeding edge but as far as I know being bleeding edge but as far as I know being bleeding edge but as far as I know our Omari is already one month behind our Omari is already one month behind our Omari is already one month behind like they're not actually um they're like they're not actually um they're like they're not actually um they're You're not downloading the packages as You're not downloading the packages as You're not downloading the packages as they come out. It's not the bleeding they come out. It's not the bleeding they come out. It's not the bleeding edge. I think they have their own edge. I think they have their own edge. I think they have their own repository. repository. repository. So, it's not the bleeding edge that you So, it's not the bleeding edge that you So, it's not the bleeding edge that you get. You're already one month behind. get. You're already one month behind. get. You're already one month behind. So, well, if you're already one month So, well, if you're already one month So, well, if you're already one month behind, you might as well just bake it behind, you might as well just bake it behind, you might as well just bake it into an image that is auditable. Uh, and yeah, I don't think that Arch Uh, and yeah, I don't think that Arch Linux makes sense in that sense at all, Linux makes sense in that sense at all, Linux makes sense in that sense at all, but it can be done. but it can be done. but it can be done. it is actually already being done with it is actually already being done with it is actually already being done with bland OS. So those were my reflections bland OS. So those were my reflections bland OS. So those were my reflections on Arch or Omari security. on Arch or Omari security. on Arch or Omari security. um do with those reflections what you um do with those reflections what you um do with those reflections what you want, but I strongly strongly encourage want, but I strongly strongly encourage want, but I strongly strongly encourage you to educate yourself on the dangers you to educate yourself on the dangers you to educate yourself on the dangers of using the Arch user repository, the dangers of using the plug-in system the dangers of using the plug-in system and how easy it is for someone to submit and how easy it is for someone to submit and how easy it is for someone to submit malicious code to that and pull it onto malicious code to that and pull it onto malicious code to that and pull it onto your system. And thirdly, strongly your system. And thirdly, strongly your system. And thirdly, strongly consider using flatp pack as a uh consider using flatp pack as a uh consider using flatp pack as a uh package um a way to install your package um a way to install your package um a way to install your packages and to run them with secured

packages and to run them with secured packages and to run them with secured permissions and use flat hub as the permissions and use flat hub as the permissions and use flat hub as the repository. In my experience, anything repository. In my experience, anything repository. In my experience, anything you want from the AUR is available in you want from the AUR is available in you want from the AUR is available in flatub. flatub. flatub. So that was my my reflection on Omari So that was my my reflection on Omari So that was my my reflection on Omari security. Now we can go to some Q&A. 147 people watching. That's cool. 147 people watching. That's cool. I DHS is online, so maybe he even swung I DHS is online, so maybe he even swung I DHS is online, so maybe he even swung by here. All right, guys. That was my my my All right, guys. That was my my my reflections.

reflections. reflections. Drop some questions in the chat if you Drop some questions in the chat if you Drop some questions in the chat if you have them. I'll be around for uh have them. I'll be around for uh have them. I'll be around for uh you know 15 minutes, 20 minutes more. Yeah, I I stopped sharing my screen, but Yeah, I I stopped sharing my screen, but you can see my face, right? you can see my face, right? you can see my face, right? Or not. Yep. You see my face? Okay, that's good.

Yep. You see my face? Okay, that's good. All right, guys. Well, do you have any All right, guys. Well, do you have any All right, guys. Well, do you have any questions? Let me scroll through the chat. Oh, wow. Let me scroll through the chat. Oh, wow. You've been discussing a lot. Not frozen, but gone. Okay, so you can't Not frozen, but gone. Okay, so you can't see me at all. Oh, damn. Let me see. Well, when I look at YouTube, Well, when I look at YouTube, I see myself on YouTube. So, yeah. I I see myself on YouTube. So, yeah. I I see myself on YouTube. So, yeah. I don't know.

just want to thank you for making me just want to thank you for making me switch from Ubuntu to Fedora. Hey, switch from Ubuntu to Fedora. Hey, switch from Ubuntu to Fedora. Hey, that's good. that's good. that's good. Yeah, I I really I I've been on Fedora Yeah, I I really I I've been on Fedora Yeah, I I really I I've been on Fedora for um yeah, over six months now. I I for um yeah, over six months now. I I for um yeah, over six months now. I I can't remember. I think it was January can't remember. I think it was January can't remember. I think it was January or something like that when I switched. or something like that when I switched. or something like that when I switched. So that's yeah almost nine months ago So that's yeah almost nine months ago So that's yeah almost nine months ago now now now and I have not had any problems with Fedora I have not had any problems with Fedora and I've been on the road for like two and I've been on the road for like two and I've been on the road for like two months in my van daily driving it on my months in my van daily driving it on my months in my van daily driving it on my framework laptop and yeah I've hadn't framework laptop and yeah I've hadn't framework laptop and yeah I've hadn't had any issues at all. It has just been had any issues at all. It has just been had any issues at all. It has just been so so stable. so so stable. so so stable. So yeah, I never really had problems So yeah, I never really had problems So yeah, I never really had problems with Arch being unstable. I think it it with Arch being unstable. I think it it with Arch being unstable. I think it it worked really well for me, worked really well for me, worked really well for me, but I um but I um but I um um um um like I kind of want to go back to Arch like I kind of want to go back to Arch like I kind of want to go back to Arch Linux at some point, but at this stage Linux at some point, but at this stage Linux at some point, but at this stage it doesn't it feels like oh why why it doesn't it feels like oh why why it doesn't it feels like oh why why should I? Like my stuff works. I don't should I? Like my stuff works. I don't should I? Like my stuff works. I don't have like I'm I'm busy running a have like I'm I'm busy running a have like I'm I'm busy running a business. I have don't have time to be business. I have don't have time to be business. I have don't have time to be tinkering with it too much. If I can tinkering with it too much. If I can tinkering with it too much. If I can have a secure operating system right out have a secure operating system right out have a secure operating system right out of the box that works, why would I do of the box that works, why would I do of the box that works, why would I do something else at this point?

Any new metal music discoveries? Uh Any new metal music discoveries? Uh um um um new I don't know. There's not much good new I don't know. There's not much good new Well, not that I'm aware of. I don't I Well, not that I'm aware of. I don't I Well, not that I'm aware of. I don't I don't see any really good new metal don't see any really good new metal don't see any really good new metal coming out. If they do, it kind of feels coming out. If they do, it kind of feels coming out. If they do, it kind of feels like a um repeat of the old pattern, like a um repeat of the old pattern, like a um repeat of the old pattern, right? right? right? But there are bands releasing some cool But there are bands releasing some cool But there are bands releasing some cool uh new stuff. Dream Theater made a uh new stuff. Dream Theater made a uh new stuff. Dream Theater made a really cool album. Devourment really cool album. Devourment really cool album. Devourment made a three song single was really made a three song single was really made a three song single was really good. The magic power hidden in that beard. The magic power hidden in that beard. Yes, it is. All of my success is due to Yes, it is. All of my success is due to Yes, it is. All of my success is due to the beard. the beard. the beard. The longer it gets, like you know the The longer it gets, like you know the The longer it gets, like you know the meme, right, about Linux.

Damn it. All right. Well, we're having Damn it. All right. Well, we're having some tech issues. Why is this camera freezing though? Let Why is this camera freezing though? Let me see. Well, I'm using Riverside as my software Well, I'm using Riverside as my software and apparently Okay. So now you should see my screen at Okay. So now you should see my screen at least. Now we have to fix my camera.

Yes, you can see my screen. But now we Yes, you can see my screen. But now we need to see the camera. Cool. Okay. So, it's always fun to have Cool. Okay. So, it's always fun to have um um um I have these tech issues. Okay, thanks I have these tech issues. Okay, thanks I have these tech issues. Okay, thanks for the tips. I've been following for a for the tips. I've been following for a for the tips. I've been following for a while. I'm no expert. I like while. I'm no expert. I like while. I'm no expert. I like experimenting. Just installed Omari. experimenting. Just installed Omari. experimenting. Just installed Omari. Practical advice on managing downloads Practical advice on managing downloads Practical advice on managing downloads maybe with some AI help. Well, that's maybe with some AI help. Well, that's maybe with some AI help. Well, that's what I've been been saying, right? what I've been been saying, right? what I've been been saying, right? Managing downloads like what you're Managing downloads like what you're Managing downloads like what you're saying is managing packages. saying is managing packages. saying is managing packages. And what I want to um And what I want to um And what I want to um I would recommend to you is to not use I would recommend to you is to not use I would recommend to you is to not use the arch user repository but use flat the arch user repository but use flat the arch user repository but use flat hub instead.

That is what I recommend. That is what I recommend. Okay. So we are back. It works. That's Okay. So we are back. It works. That's Okay. So we are back. It works. That's good to know. good to know. good to know. That means that we um That means that we um That means that we um are back in action. are back in action. are back in action. It works. That's good. Thank you. Thank It works. That's good. Thank you. Thank It works. That's good. Thank you. Thank you for confirming that. you for confirming that. you for confirming that. So if I then So if I then So if I then turn off screen sharing, hopefully that turn off screen sharing, hopefully that turn off screen sharing, hopefully that will Yeah, the thing is I cannot like share Yeah, the thing is I cannot like share my chat alone. I would have to do the my chat alone. I would have to do the my chat alone. I would have to do the YouTube chat only. YouTube chat only. YouTube chat only. Maybe I can do that. Maybe I can do that. Maybe I can do that. So if you have questions guys, let me So if you have questions guys, let me So if you have questions guys, let me know. I'll be around for 10 more minutes know. I'll be around for 10 more minutes know. I'll be around for 10 more minutes or so. Let me know if you have any questions, Let me know if you have any questions, concerns. concerns. concerns. Happy to answer them. FlatHub for all distros or just for FlatHub for all distros or just for Omari? Yeah, I I I would say um Omari? Yeah, I I I would say um Omari? Yeah, I I I would say um I like all distros is a u is is quite a I like all distros is a u is is quite a I like all distros is a u is is quite a sweeping statement sweeping statement sweeping statement but I am using Omari.

but I am using Omari. but I am using Omari. I'm using flat hub on on I'm using flat hub on on I'm using flat hub on on um Fedora right now and I would um Fedora right now and I would um Fedora right now and I would definitely use it if I would were to definitely use it if I would were to definitely use it if I would were to switch back to Arch Linux. switch back to Arch Linux. switch back to Arch Linux. I would install Arch Linux and then I would install Arch Linux and then I would install Arch Linux and then install anything I could from FlatHub install anything I could from FlatHub install anything I could from FlatHub using flat packs. using flat packs. using flat packs. That's what I would do. Use Debian or Fedora. No more arts. Use Debian or Fedora. No more arts. Yeah, right. As I know Omari is using just a few AUR As I know Omari is using just a few AUR packages until they are compiled from packages until they are compiled from packages until they are compiled from Omari. Yes, that's true. But Omari. Yes, that's true. But Omari. Yes, that's true. But if I um as far as I know they are when if I um as far as I know they are when if I um as far as I know they are when you download Omari and install it then you download Omari and install it then you download Omari and install it then the Arch user repository is enabled the Arch user repository is enabled the Arch user repository is enabled and I don't think that's a good idea and I don't think that's a good idea and I don't think that's a good idea like it's enabled because they are using like it's enabled because they are using like it's enabled because they are using just a few packages from the AUR but just a few packages from the AUR but just a few packages from the AUR but that means giving people who are new to that means giving people who are new to that means giving people who are new to to This

to This to This direct access to the AUR like look direct access to the AUR like look direct access to the AUR like look 9-year-old first personal experience 9-year-old first personal experience 9-year-old first personal experience Omari non-school at DH like this is my Omari non-school at DH like this is my Omari non-school at DH like this is my case po case in point you know Omari case po case in point you know Omari case po case in point you know Omari makes for a great first computer kids makes for a great first computer kids makes for a great first computer kids don't have preconceived notions about don't have preconceived notions about don't have preconceived notions about operating systems they can learn operating systems they can learn operating systems they can learn everything because they don't have to everything because they don't have to everything because they don't have to unlearn anything they also like things unlearn anything they also like things unlearn anything they also like things that are cool and fun that are cool and fun that are cool and fun So So So again, I don't hate DHH. I don't hate again, I don't hate DHH. I don't hate again, I don't hate DHH. I don't hate Omari, Omari, Omari, but I would never like have a kid get but I would never like have a kid get but I would never like have a kid get access to the AUR. access to the AUR. access to the AUR. You don't want that. You don't want You don't want that. You don't want You don't want that. You don't want beginners beginners beginners using Arch Linux using Arch Linux using Arch Linux or these plug-in systems that execute or these plug-in systems that execute or these plug-in systems that execute code on your computer without reading code on your computer without reading code on your computer without reading that code. Like this kid cannot know that code. Like this kid cannot know that code. Like this kid cannot know what that means, what it means to get a what that means, what it means to get a what that means, what it means to get a install a package from the AUR. This is install a package from the AUR. This is install a package from the AUR. This is actually a perfect um example of what actually a perfect um example of what actually a perfect um example of what I'm trying to argue here. Omari is being I'm trying to argue here. Omari is being I'm trying to argue here. Omari is being presented as like a beginner friendly presented as like a beginner friendly presented as like a beginner friendly solution with huge security solution with huge security solution with huge security implications.

implications. implications. So yeah, the title of this stream is So yeah, the title of this stream is So yeah, the title of this stream is Omari is Omari safe to use. I think it's Omari is Omari safe to use. I think it's Omari is Omari safe to use. I think it's not not in this situation. What's the reason people love art so What's the reason people love art so much? Well, I can tell you the reason much? Well, I can tell you the reason much? Well, I can tell you the reason why I loved it so much and that is why I loved it so much and that is why I loved it so much and that is because I loved the because I loved the because I loved the the experience of building my own the experience of building my own the experience of building my own operating system and the operating system and the operating system and the responsibility that came with that. responsibility that came with that. responsibility that came with that. Every Every Every package that was on that system was package that was on that system was package that was on that system was there because I put it there, because I there because I put it there, because I there because I put it there, because I installed it. And that was a very installed it. And that was a very installed it. And that was a very powerful feeling. At the same time, I it powerful feeling. At the same time, I it powerful feeling. At the same time, I it required me to learn a lot of skills required me to learn a lot of skills required me to learn a lot of skills to do that and to do that securely. to do that and to do that securely. to do that and to do that securely. I still remember that I I forgot to I still remember that I I forgot to I still remember that I I forgot to encrypt my system, right? I did I well I encrypt my system, right? I did I well I encrypt my system, right? I did I well I didn't forget it. I didn't know how to didn't forget it. I didn't know how to didn't forget it. I didn't know how to do that.

Okay. So, here's someone saying Omari is Okay. So, here's someone saying Omari is not presented as beginner to use. DHH not presented as beginner to use. DHH not presented as beginner to use. DHH mentioned many times it's for developers mentioned many times it's for developers mentioned many times it's for developers and those willing to move from Mac or and those willing to move from Mac or and those willing to move from Mac or Windows. Windows. Windows. Okay, but look at what you're saying and Okay, but look at what you're saying and Okay, but look at what you're saying and what he is saying in this tweet. Omari what he is saying in this tweet. Omari what he is saying in this tweet. Omari makes for a great first computer. Kids makes for a great first computer. Kids makes for a great first computer. Kids don't have blah blah blah. 9year-old don't have blah blah blah. 9year-old don't have blah blah blah. 9year-old first personal computer experience is first personal computer experience is first personal computer experience is Omari. Wow, this is great. Like rather Omari. Wow, this is great. Like rather Omari. Wow, this is great. Like rather be be be what you're saying is false. what you're saying is false. what you're saying is false. Omari is presented as a for beginner Omari is presented as a for beginner Omari is presented as a for beginner usage. Okay. If a nine-year-old kid usage. Okay. If a nine-year-old kid usage. Okay. If a nine-year-old kid isn't a beginner, then I don't know what isn't a beginner, then I don't know what isn't a beginner, then I don't know what to say. Uh Yousef, what is AUR? Yeah, you can Uh Yousef, what is AUR? Yeah, you can rewind to the beginning of the stream. I rewind to the beginning of the stream. I rewind to the beginning of the stream. I explain that. explain that. explain that. It is all explained in the beginning of It is all explained in the beginning of It is all explained in the beginning of this stream.

So going back to why I like Arch Linux, So going back to why I like Arch Linux, I really like that experience of I really like that experience of I really like that experience of building my own thing, the building my own thing, the building my own thing, the responsibility that came with it etc. responsibility that came with it etc. responsibility that came with it etc. And that is why Arch is so appealing. And that is why Arch is so appealing. And that is why Arch is so appealing. Now there is a new wave of people who Now there is a new wave of people who Now there is a new wave of people who have picked up that Arch is somehow cool have picked up that Arch is somehow cool have picked up that Arch is somehow cool to run but they don't necessarily want to run but they don't necessarily want to run but they don't necessarily want to put in the effort to do that. They to put in the effort to do that. They to put in the effort to do that. They just want to say, "I run Arch by the just want to say, "I run Arch by the just want to say, "I run Arch by the way." And then Omari is a very way." And then Omari is a very way." And then Omari is a very convenient way to to to convenient way to to to convenient way to to to flex that. Even though you didn't flex that. Even though you didn't flex that. Even though you didn't install anything yourself, you're now install anything yourself, you're now install anything yourself, you're now saying, "Oh, I run Arch by the way." And saying, "Oh, I run Arch by the way." And saying, "Oh, I run Arch by the way." And somehow you're a cool kid now. I always have some kind of problems to I always have some kind of problems to access files and permissions using access files and permissions using access files and permissions using FlatHub. I will try again as you FlatHub. I will try again as you FlatHub. I will try again as you recommended. Yeah, exactly, Yugo. recommended. Yeah, exactly, Yugo. recommended. Yeah, exactly, Yugo. because because because you have problems because it's done you have problems because it's done you have problems because it's done securely and or at least more secure and securely and or at least more secure and securely and or at least more secure and that means you're going to run into that means you're going to run into that means you're going to run into problems because the default is oh let's problems because the default is oh let's problems because the default is oh let's just give everything access to anything just give everything access to anything just give everything access to anything as the root user and then let's see and as the root user and then let's see and as the root user and then let's see and let's and let's just cross our fingers let's and let's just cross our fingers let's and let's just cross our fingers that nothing goes wrong.

that nothing goes wrong. that nothing goes wrong. This is why flat pack is a much better This is why flat pack is a much better This is why flat pack is a much better way of doing it. It's not a foolproof way of doing it. It's not a foolproof way of doing it. It's not a foolproof way. It's not a bulletproof way, but way. It's not a bulletproof way, but way. It's not a bulletproof way, but it's a good way. All right, guys. Couple more questions All right, guys. Couple more questions and then I'm uh continuing my Sunday and then I'm uh continuing my Sunday and then I'm uh continuing my Sunday here. here. here. I have a lot of work to do. So, if you have any questions, drop them So, if you have any questions, drop them and then um why not create your own opinionated arch why not create your own opinionated arch if you think that Omari is really bad? if you think that Omari is really bad? if you think that Omari is really bad? Well, I don't necessarily think Omari is Well, I don't necessarily think Omari is Well, I don't necessarily think Omari is really bad. I'm just voicing some really bad. I'm just voicing some really bad. I'm just voicing some concerns around um Arch around Omari and concerns around um Arch around Omari and concerns around um Arch around Omari and the security. Okay, I just voice some the security. Okay, I just voice some the security. Okay, I just voice some concerns there and I encourage everyone concerns there and I encourage everyone concerns there and I encourage everyone who uses Omari to educate themselves on who uses Omari to educate themselves on who uses Omari to educate themselves on the security implications. That's all the security implications. That's all the security implications. That's all I'm saying. And in fact, I did create my I'm saying. And in fact, I did create my I'm saying. And in fact, I did create my own uh opinionated Arch. I was running own uh opinionated Arch. I was running own uh opinionated Arch. I was running Arch Linux for many years and I built it Arch Linux for many years and I built it Arch Linux for many years and I built it from scratch.

I see no reason to avoid Fedora I see no reason to avoid Fedora immutable. Yeah, exactly. That's a much immutable. Yeah, exactly. That's a much immutable. Yeah, exactly. That's a much better need video tutorial. How you set up need video tutorial. How you set up Fedora Sway? Okay, I'll give you a video Fedora Sway? Okay, I'll give you a video Fedora Sway? Okay, I'll give you a video tutorial. tutorial. tutorial. Fedora Atomic Sway. Click Click download now. That's the tutorial. download now. That's the tutorial. download now. That's the tutorial. That's all you need to do. Like the That's all you need to do. Like the That's all you need to do. Like the distribution that you see me running distribution that you see me running distribution that you see me running here with the window manager and sway here with the window manager and sway here with the window manager and sway and everything. It's already ready and everything. It's already ready and everything. It's already ready packaged for you. And this contrary to Omari is contrary to Omari is I'm not going to claim it's secure out I'm not going to claim it's secure out I'm not going to claim it's secure out of the box, but it's much more secure of the box, but it's much more secure of the box, but it's much more secure because this is a vetted container image because this is a vetted container image because this is a vetted container image built by Red Hat, sponsored by Red Hat, built by Red Hat, sponsored by Red Hat, built by Red Hat, sponsored by Red Hat, which is a billiondoll company with lots which is a billiondoll company with lots which is a billiondoll company with lots of resources and actual humans building of resources and actual humans building of resources and actual humans building this. It is an immutable OS. So you have this. It is an immutable OS. So you have this. It is an immutable OS. So you have a read only root file system and a read only root file system and a read only root file system and applications are used as flatp packs and applications are used as flatp packs and applications are used as flatp packs and you're encouraged to run all your you're encouraged to run all your you're encouraged to run all your applications in containers like this to applications in containers like this to applications in containers like this to me is what a um more secure distribution me is what a um more secure distribution me is what a um more secure distribution and approach looks like.

Um Um why aren't you using Nyx? why aren't you using Nyx? why aren't you using Nyx? Well, because like I did a whole video Well, because like I did a whole video Well, because like I did a whole video on that, but I don't do it because it's on that, but I don't do it because it's on that, but I don't do it because it's a high learning curve a high learning curve a high learning curve and also like even um Nick's package and also like even um Nick's package and also like even um Nick's package team disbanded like team disbanded like team disbanded like like I I don't know much about this but um um someone described to me someone described to me someone described to me that being involved with the NYX that being involved with the NYX that being involved with the NYX community is almost like going to a community is almost like going to a community is almost like going to a furry convention. furry convention. furry convention. This is just someone telling me this is This is just someone telling me this is This is just someone telling me this is not my own experience because I don't not my own experience because I don't not my own experience because I don't have that experience. have that experience. have that experience. But I get the I get the sense that the But I get the I get the sense that the But I get the I get the sense that the Nyx OS Nyx OS Nyx OS team or the the the project has a lot of team or the the the project has a lot of team or the the the project has a lot of drama and and and lots of weird things drama and and and lots of weird things drama and and and lots of weird things going on.

Now, one example of this is that 23 days Now, one example of this is that 23 days ago, the Nyx packages core team has ago, the Nyx packages core team has ago, the Nyx packages core team has disbanded. our experience is that the steering our experience is that the steering committee as an institution lacks a committee as an institution lacks a committee as an institution lacks a native instinct for the delegation native instinct for the delegation native instinct for the delegation envisioned by the constitution while envisioned by the constitution while envisioned by the constitution while also not being sufficiently a cohesive also not being sufficiently a cohesive also not being sufficiently a cohesive to handle individual decisions at those to handle individual decisions at those to handle individual decisions at those levels itself. This manifests as levels itself. This manifests as levels itself. This manifests as unnecessary micromanagement of teams unnecessary micromanagement of teams unnecessary micromanagement of teams below them and chronically poor below them and chronically poor below them and chronically poor communication including lack of clarity communication including lack of clarity communication including lack of clarity from steering committee members about from steering committee members about from steering committee members about when they're speaking for themselves when they're speaking for themselves when they're speaking for themselves etc. etc. etc. There is a lot of drama happening here There is a lot of drama happening here There is a lot of drama happening here and people like one like there's a and people like one like there's a and people like one like there's a tendency for people to have like anime tendency for people to have like anime tendency for people to have like anime profile pictures profile pictures profile pictures here like these are not real like these here like these are not real like these here like these are not real like these are not people that you're interacting are not people that you're interacting are not people that you're interacting with these are avatars with these are avatars with these are avatars and I don't know like I don't want to and I don't know like I don't want to and I don't know like I don't want to spend hours many hours of my life spend hours many hours of my life spend hours many hours of my life learning something that is this learning something that is this learning something that is this fraught with like politics and wokeness fraught with like politics and wokeness fraught with like politics and wokeness and instability and instability and instability again I'm just basing this on hearsay I again I'm just basing this on hearsay I again I'm just basing this on hearsay I am not part of this team but where there am not part of this team but where there am not part of this team but where there is smoke there is fire so if I hear 100 is smoke there is fire so if I hear 100 is smoke there is fire so if I hear 100 people saying this then I do um

people saying this then I do um people saying this then I do um I do um yeah attach some value to that I do um yeah attach some value to that I do um yeah attach some value to that that's why I don't use nyx Which Fedora would you install on an old Which Fedora would you install on an old MacBook? It depends. If it's an uh MacBook? It depends. If it's an uh MacBook? It depends. If it's an uh silicon MacBook, if it's really old, silicon MacBook, if it's really old, silicon MacBook, if it's really old, it's probably Intel. Um, you can you can it's probably Intel. Um, you can you can it's probably Intel. Um, you can you can try the normal Fedora workstation. I try the normal Fedora workstation. I try the normal Fedora workstation. I think that's a good start. and then move think that's a good start. and then move think that's a good start. and then move on to an atomic desktop later. Omari can be a good entry point to Linux Omari can be a good entry point to Linux for people using Mac or Windows. I don't for people using Mac or Windows. I don't for people using Mac or Windows. I don't agree with that. Omari uses a window agree with that. Omari uses a window agree with that. Omari uses a window manager. Windows is a graphical UI. It manager. Windows is a graphical UI. It manager. Windows is a graphical UI. It is literally Windows with a mouse. So, I is literally Windows with a mouse. So, I is literally Windows with a mouse. So, I don't think that going straight from don't think that going straight from don't think that going straight from Windows to Omari is a good way to enter Windows to Omari is a good way to enter Windows to Omari is a good way to enter Linux. It's going to be extremely Linux. It's going to be extremely Linux. It's going to be extremely disorienting.

I think you're being a snob because I think you're being a snob because you've had the pain of setting up Arch. you've had the pain of setting up Arch. you've had the pain of setting up Arch. Arch is one of the most secure. Yes, Arch is one of the most secure. Yes, Arch is one of the most secure. Yes, there's a bit of bloat, but what is there's a bit of bloat, but what is there's a bit of bloat, but what is Ubuntu without Debbian? Don't see you Ubuntu without Debbian? Don't see you Ubuntu without Debbian? Don't see you raging them. No, I'm not raging on them raging them. No, I'm not raging on them raging them. No, I'm not raging on them because they are more secure. And I'm because they are more secure. And I'm because they are more secure. And I'm not raging on Omari. Just go back to the not raging on Omari. Just go back to the not raging on Omari. Just go back to the beginning of this video and you will beginning of this video and you will beginning of this video and you will hear my actual opinion on it instead of hear my actual opinion on it instead of hear my actual opinion on it instead of the opinion that you assume I have. And the opinion that you assume I have. And the opinion that you assume I have. And um I don't rage on Debian or Abuntu because I don't rage on Debian or Abuntu because they have a better package vetting they have a better package vetting they have a better package vetting system in place. And I don't I don't think it's being And I don't I don't think it's being snobby to have the pain of setting up snobby to have the pain of setting up snobby to have the pain of setting up Arch. Arch. Arch. Like there's nothing snobbish about Like there's nothing snobbish about Like there's nothing snobbish about gaining actual technical experience by gaining actual technical experience by gaining actual technical experience by going through a process like that and going through a process like that and going through a process like that and not taking shortcuts. Like it's the same not taking shortcuts. Like it's the same not taking shortcuts. Like it's the same as going to the gym.

as going to the gym. as going to the gym. If someone trains super hard for eight If someone trains super hard for eight If someone trains super hard for eight years and gets to his genetic maximum years and gets to his genetic maximum years and gets to his genetic maximum potential or you have a kid who comes in potential or you have a kid who comes in potential or you have a kid who comes in and starts injecting steroids after six and starts injecting steroids after six and starts injecting steroids after six months. months. months. Yeah. I mean, I have more respect for Yeah. I mean, I have more respect for Yeah. I mean, I have more respect for the person who does it for over eight the person who does it for over eight the person who does it for over eight years and who actually went through the years and who actually went through the years and who actually went through the the pain to do that. Is that snobby? I the pain to do that. Is that snobby? I the pain to do that. Is that snobby? I don't think so. Okay. Well, I think we're going to end Okay. Well, I think we're going to end it for today then. Um, thank you so much it for today then. Um, thank you so much it for today then. Um, thank you so much for um watching. I hope this at least for um watching. I hope this at least for um watching. I hope this at least inspired at least one person to think a inspired at least one person to think a inspired at least one person to think a little bit deeper about the software little bit deeper about the software little bit deeper about the software they um deploy to their computer and they um deploy to their computer and they um deploy to their computer and what code you are pulling and executing what code you are pulling and executing what code you are pulling and executing on your computer. Be extremely careful on your computer. Be extremely careful on your computer. Be extremely careful with this because the hackers are out with this because the hackers are out with this because the hackers are out there, right? They are the hackers know there, right? They are the hackers know there, right? They are the hackers know the hackers know that there are lots of the hackers know that there are lots of the hackers know that there are lots of new people coming to Linux through Omari new people coming to Linux through Omari new people coming to Linux through Omari and they are targeting the Arch user and they are targeting the Arch user and they are targeting the Arch user repository. We're going to see more repository. We're going to see more repository. We're going to see more incidents. Mark my words and I encourage incidents. Mark my words and I encourage incidents. Mark my words and I encourage everyone to educate yourself on the everyone to educate yourself on the everyone to educate yourself on the implications of using that. Review your implications of using that. Review your implications of using that. Review your code. Review what you put on your code. Review what you put on your code. Review what you put on your system. And if you don't have the skills system. And if you don't have the skills system. And if you don't have the skills to do that, then I recommend using

to do that, then I recommend using to do that, then I recommend using something that has more strict control, something that has more strict control, something that has more strict control, maybe like Ubuntu, maybe Fedora. But uh maybe like Ubuntu, maybe Fedora. But uh maybe like Ubuntu, maybe Fedora. But uh I think you will have a more secure I think you will have a more secure I think you will have a more secure experience than using Omari at this experience than using Omari at this experience than using Omari at this stage.