← Back
Nate Herk August 26, 2026 20m

I Tested Claude Code vs. Codex on Design. It Wasn't Even Close.

Read full transcript 18 segments
  1. So, I just had Claude Code and Codex So, I just had Claude Code and Codex build me eight different websites and build me eight different websites and build me eight different websites and they were given the same prompts and all they were given the same prompts and all they were given the same prompts and all the same data to start with. So, we're the same data to start with. So, we're the same data to start with. So, we're going to be going over all the outputs. going to be going over all the outputs. going to be going over all the outputs. I'm going to be talking about which one I'm going to be talking about which one I'm going to be talking about which one I think is actually better when it comes I think is actually better when it comes I think is actually better when it comes to design so we can finally end the to design so we can finally end the to design so we can finally end the debate. And for each of the builds, debate. And for each of the builds, debate. And for each of the builds, we're going to talk about how many we're going to talk about how many we're going to talk about how many subpages were used, how much time it subpages were used, how much time it subpages were used, how much time it took, how much it costed, the output took, how much it costed, the output took, how much it costed, the output tokens, things like that so that you can tokens, things like that so that you can tokens, things like that so that you can actually make a decision based on data actually make a decision based on data actually make a decision based on data rather than just like design vibes. So, rather than just like design vibes. So, rather than just like design vibes. So, let's not waste any time and just get let's not waste any time and just get let's not waste any time and just get straight into today's video. Okay, so straight into today's video. Okay, so straight into today's video. Okay, so here's what we're going to do. For every here's what we're going to do. For every here's what we're going to do. For every single one of these builds, we're going single one of these builds, we're going single one of these builds, we're going to have Claude Code on the left and to have Claude Code on the left and to have Claude Code on the left and Codex on the right. So, this first one Codex on the right. So, this first one Codex on the right. So, this first one was called Bowl and Bloom. We can see was called Bowl and Bloom. We can see was called Bowl and Bloom. We can see that the brand guidelines were given, that the brand guidelines were given, that the brand guidelines were given, the logo was given, the name. And the logo was given, the name. And the logo was given, the name. And basically my idea was let's remove as basically my idea was let's remove as basically my idea was let's remove as much variability as possible and have much variability as possible and have much variability as possible and have Claude Code and Codex build eight of the Claude Code and Codex build eight of the Claude Code and Codex build eight of the exact same businesses, like eight of the exact same businesses, like eight of the exact same businesses, like eight of the exact same sites, and that's how we can exact same sites, and that's how we can exact same sites, and that's how we can compare the outputs. So, right away we compare the outputs. So, right away we compare the outputs. So, right away we see the color scheme is consistent. We see the color scheme is consistent. We see the color scheme is consistent. We see over here we have like a bunch of see over here we have like a bunch of see over here we have like a bunch of text to start in the hero and then we text to start in the hero and then we text to start in the hero and then we have the image. Over here we have the have the image. Over here we have the have the image. Over here we have the image up top and then we have some image up top and then we have some image up top and then we have some information about, you know, the meal information about, you know, the meal information about, you know, the meal train that keeps showing up. So far I'm train that keeps showing up. So far I'm train that keeps showing up. So far I'm liking Codex more because we also have liking Codex more because we also have liking Codex more because we also have this nav bar up top. We have the call to this nav bar up top. We have the call to this nav bar up top. We have the call to action here. We have the call to action action here. We have the call to action action here. We have the call to action here. This one just feels a little bit here. This one just feels a little bit here. This one just feels a little bit more clear as far as like you open up more clear as far as like you open up more clear as far as like you open up the website and you know exactly what the website and you know exactly what the website and you know exactly what you're in for. So, let's keep scrolling you're in for. So, let's keep scrolling you're in for. So, let's keep scrolling down here on Codex. We have a little down here on Codex. We have a little down here on Codex. We have a little thing on this left-hand side that shows thing on this left-hand side that shows thing on this left-hand side that shows us like how far along the site we are.

  2. us like how far along the site we are. us like how far along the site we are. We get the sideways scroll animation We get the sideways scroll animation We get the sideways scroll animation where we can see the first 14 days, the where we can see the first 14 days, the where we can see the first 14 days, the fourth trimester, build a care box, send fourth trimester, build a care box, send fourth trimester, build a care box, send useful care. We see the four core useful care. We see the four core useful care. We see the four core flavors, chicken, red lentil, garden flavors, chicken, red lentil, garden flavors, chicken, red lentil, garden greens, miso mushroom. Same thing I'm greens, miso mushroom. Same thing I'm greens, miso mushroom. Same thing I'm assuming over here. Okay, we get a bit assuming over here. Okay, we get a bit assuming over here. Okay, we get a bit of a story. We get chapter one. This is of a story. We get chapter one. This is of a story. We get chapter one. This is a lot of words. So, it's very, very a lot of words. So, it's very, very a lot of words. So, it's very, very wordy. We get chapter two, what's wordy. We get chapter two, what's wordy. We get chapter two, what's actually in the bowl. We have more actually in the bowl. We have more actually in the bowl. We have more pictures here, more pictures here. And pictures here, more pictures here. And pictures here, more pictures here. And then down here we finally get to like a then down here we finally get to like a then down here we finally get to like a scroll section, but we don't see the scroll section, but we don't see the scroll section, but we don't see the flavors yet or we don't see how this flavors yet or we don't see how this flavors yet or we don't see how this works. We see one that arrives frozen works. We see one that arrives frozen works. We see one that arrives frozen and then we see we tip the block into and then we see we tip the block into and then we see we tip the block into the pan, 9 minutes, and that's when we the pan, 9 minutes, and that's when we the pan, 9 minutes, and that's when we have our food. So, we're getting have our food. So, we're getting have our food. So, we're getting different vibes, different feels, but different vibes, different feels, but different vibes, different feels, but the information is the same. It's just the information is the same. It's just the information is the same. It's just being communicated very, very being communicated very, very being communicated very, very differently. Okay, so anyways, for both differently. Okay, so anyways, for both differently. Okay, so anyways, for both of these, let's go to the build your of these, let's go to the build your of these, let's go to the build your care box section. So I'm going to click care box section. So I'm going to click care box section. So I'm going to click on it over here and I'll click on it on it over here and I'll click on it on it over here and I'll click on it over here. over here. over here. Um well, first of all, there's a little Um well, first of all, there's a little Um well, first of all, there's a little bug and I think it's because I'm doing bug and I think it's because I'm doing bug and I think it's because I'm doing this in like the Claude code half this in like the Claude code half this in like the Claude code half screen. So let me open this up full screen. So let me open this up full screen. So let me open this up full screen real quick to get that screen real quick to get that screen real quick to get that experience. And by the way, that is one experience. And by the way, that is one experience. And by the way, that is one thing that I think we should factor in a thing that I think we should factor in a thing that I think we should factor in a little bit. It obviously looks different little bit. It obviously looks different little bit. It obviously looks different on mobile. It obviously looks different on mobile. It obviously looks different on mobile. It obviously looks different if you have it open full screen or if if you have it open full screen or if if you have it open full screen or if you shrink it down to half. Hopefully, you shrink it down to half. Hopefully, you shrink it down to half. Hopefully, the Claude code like or Codex when the Claude code like or Codex when the Claude code like or Codex when they're going through, they should be they're going through, they should be they're going through, they should be testing it in different sizes like that.

  3. testing it in different sizes like that. testing it in different sizes like that. So, one thing I'll subtly keep in mind. So, one thing I'll subtly keep in mind. So, one thing I'll subtly keep in mind. Here's the two ways to set it up. Here's the two ways to set it up. Here's the two ways to set it up. Anyways, what I wanted to do was go to Anyways, what I wanted to do was go to Anyways, what I wanted to do was go to build your care box. So, this is Claude build your care box. So, this is Claude build your care box. So, this is Claude code. We can see that we can choose the code. We can see that we can choose the code. We can see that we can choose the items. We can then choose, you know, how items. We can then choose, you know, how items. We can then choose, you know, how many of each one we want. We can choose many of each one we want. We can choose many of each one we want. We can choose our delivery date. We can choose our our delivery date. We can choose our our delivery date. We can choose our first delivery. And that's basically it first delivery. And that's basically it first delivery. And that's basically it when it comes to like choosing the when it comes to like choosing the when it comes to like choosing the actual items. We can see the price and actual items. We can see the price and actual items. We can see the price and then we go to checkout, but obviously then we go to checkout, but obviously then we go to checkout, but obviously this is a fake site, so there's not this is a fake site, so there's not this is a fake site, so there's not going to be any sort of checkout going to be any sort of checkout going to be any sort of checkout information. Now, Codex's we can also information. Now, Codex's we can also information. Now, Codex's we can also keep just half screen and this seems to keep just half screen and this seems to keep just half screen and this seems to look fine, right? We have eight items, look fine, right? We have eight items, look fine, right? We have eight items, 12 items, 16 items. We can change how 12 items, 16 items. We can change how 12 items, 16 items. We can change how many of each item we have. Although, one many of each item we have. Although, one many of each item we have. Although, one thing I noticed is it doesn't change the thing I noticed is it doesn't change the thing I noticed is it doesn't change the color. Like you would assume if you have color. Like you would assume if you have color. Like you would assume if you have five of these red lentils, you'd have five of these red lentils, you'd have five of these red lentils, you'd have five here. And we only have one ginger five here. And we only have one ginger five here. And we only have one ginger chicken rice, but we still have four. chicken rice, but we still have four. chicken rice, but we still have four. So, that wasn't probably fully vetted So, that wasn't probably fully vetted So, that wasn't probably fully vetted out, but either way, this is a very nice out, but either way, this is a very nice out, but either way, this is a very nice overall. I think it's a cleaner overall. I think it's a cleaner overall. I think it's a cleaner experience on the Codex side. So experience on the Codex side. So experience on the Codex side. So anyways, for round one, this was Bold & anyways, for round one, this was Bold & anyways, for round one, this was Bold & Bloom. We can see the difference in the Bloom. We can see the difference in the Bloom. We can see the difference in the way that they actually designed, even way that they actually designed, even way that they actually designed, even though we had the same pretty much the though we had the same pretty much the though we had the same pretty much the same copy, the same story, the same same copy, the same story, the same same copy, the same story, the same info. But here's where it gets info. But here's where it gets info. But here's where it gets interesting. Claude code used four interesting. Claude code used four interesting. Claude code used four subagents, whereas Codex took one.

  4. subagents, whereas Codex took one. subagents, whereas Codex took one. Claude code took two hours, whereas Claude code took two hours, whereas Claude code took two hours, whereas Codex took 50 minutes. Claude code used Codex took 50 minutes. Claude code used Codex took 50 minutes. Claude code used almost 500,000 output tokens and Codex almost 500,000 output tokens and Codex almost 500,000 output tokens and Codex used only 100,000. And Claude code cost used only 100,000. And Claude code cost used only 100,000. And Claude code cost 53 bucks, while Codex cost 53 bucks, while Codex cost 53 bucks, while Codex cost a little under 20 bucks. So, obviously a little under 20 bucks. So, obviously a little under 20 bucks. So, obviously there's a clear winner here when it there's a clear winner here when it there's a clear winner here when it comes to the design, the feel, and the comes to the design, the feel, and the comes to the design, the feel, and the cost and time, which was Codex. And cost and time, which was Codex. And cost and time, which was Codex. And speaking of being efficient, let me take speaking of being efficient, let me take speaking of being efficient, let me take a quick pause to talk about today's a quick pause to talk about today's a quick pause to talk about today's sponsor. All right, guys, real quick, I sponsor. All right, guys, real quick, I sponsor. All right, guys, real quick, I need to take a second to tell you about need to take a second to tell you about need to take a second to tell you about today's sponsor, Grain Note. So, I run a today's sponsor, Grain Note. So, I run a today's sponsor, Grain Note. So, I run a ton of different meetings with different ton of different meetings with different ton of different meetings with different teams and I I want to focus on how to teams and I I want to focus on how to teams and I I want to focus on how to actually like take notes and track actually like take notes and track actually like take notes and track action items. So, what I do is I have action items. So, what I do is I have action items. So, what I do is I have Granola do that for me. It's an AI Granola do that for me. It's an AI Granola do that for me. It's an AI notepad for meetings. But, what's cool notepad for meetings. But, what's cool notepad for meetings. But, what's cool is that no bot joins the call. It is that no bot joins the call. It is that no bot joins the call. It basically just listens to your basically just listens to your basically just listens to your computer's audio in the background, computer's audio in the background, computer's audio in the background, whether you're on Zoom or Google Meet or whether you're on Zoom or Google Meet or whether you're on Zoom or Google Meet or whatever platform you're on. So, for whatever platform you're on. So, for whatever platform you're on. So, for example, this week I had a Q&A in my example, this week I had a Q&A in my example, this week I had a Q&A in my community, I had a sync across my AIS community, I had a sync across my AIS community, I had a sync across my AIS team, and a sync with a different team, and a sync with a different team, and a sync with a different certification team. And all within 3 certification team. And all within 3 certification team. And all within 3 hours, I didn't have to prep or reflect hours, I didn't have to prep or reflect hours, I didn't have to prep or reflect between any of those calls. Because between any of those calls. Because between any of those calls. Because Granola was able to not only grab all Granola was able to not only grab all Granola was able to not only grab all those transcripts for me, but then it those transcripts for me, but then it those transcripts for me, but then it actually helps me synthesize all of it actually helps me synthesize all of it actually helps me synthesize all of it into my AI operating system, update my into my AI operating system, update my into my AI operating system, update my to-do's, and then send out any action to-do's, and then send out any action to-do's, and then send out any action items. So, Granola is completely free to items. So, Granola is completely free to items. So, Granola is completely free to start. Link's also in the description.

  5. start. Link's also in the description. start. Link's also in the description. Let's get back to the video. Okay. So, Let's get back to the video. Okay. So, Let's get back to the video. Okay. So, here's number two. I don't exactly know here's number two. I don't exactly know here's number two. I don't exactly know what was fed in for this prompt. It's what was fed in for this prompt. It's what was fed in for this prompt. It's called Minute Craft. I First of all, called Minute Craft. I First of all, called Minute Craft. I First of all, both of these are very overwhelming when both of these are very overwhelming when both of these are very overwhelming when I look at them. Right here, we can see I look at them. Right here, we can see I look at them. Right here, we can see the hero text I read on this Cloud Code the hero text I read on this Cloud Code the hero text I read on this Cloud Code side is, "Your meeting ended, the work side is, "Your meeting ended, the work side is, "Your meeting ended, the work is already organized." Over here, I see, is already organized." Over here, I see, is already organized." Over here, I see, "Client call over, follow-up ready." So, "Client call over, follow-up ready." So, "Client call over, follow-up ready." So, this is some sort of AI note taker that this is some sort of AI note taker that this is some sort of AI note taker that turns your meetings into decisions, turns your meetings into decisions, turns your meetings into decisions, action steps, action steps, action steps, things like that. But, overall, things like that. But, overall, things like that. But, overall, whatever the brand guidelines were that whatever the brand guidelines were that whatever the brand guidelines were that were fed into these prompts, not very were fed into these prompts, not very were fed into these prompts, not very good. Like, this is very overwhelming. good. Like, this is very overwhelming. good. Like, this is very overwhelming. It more so feels like an interface and a It more so feels like an interface and a It more so feels like an interface and a dashboard rather than like a landing dashboard rather than like a landing dashboard rather than like a landing page that's page that's page that's built to convert. Either way, let's go built to convert. Either way, let's go built to convert. Either way, let's go through. On left-hand side, we can see through. On left-hand side, we can see through. On left-hand side, we can see we've got six steps. We have a Northgate we've got six steps. We have a Northgate we've got six steps. We have a Northgate Dental Group needs review, and then we Dental Group needs review, and then we Dental Group needs review, and then we have Oh, that jumps us all the way down. have Oh, that jumps us all the way down. have Oh, that jumps us all the way down. Whoa, I don't know what just happened Whoa, I don't know what just happened Whoa, I don't know what just happened here. We got to a 90-second tour. Let's here. We got to a 90-second tour. Let's here. We got to a 90-second tour. Let's go back to the home screen. Anyways, go back to the home screen. Anyways, go back to the home screen. Anyways, we'll keep going down. There's six we'll keep going down. There's six we'll keep going down. There's six different steps. different steps. different steps. Um we have decisions to be made. We have Um we have decisions to be made. We have Um we have decisions to be made. We have what this workspace is. We have the what this workspace is. We have the what this workspace is. We have the transcript. So, this is kind of like transcript. So, this is kind of like transcript. So, this is kind of like it's a demo. This is more of like it's a demo. This is more of like it's a demo. This is more of like showing a demo of what you would use showing a demo of what you would use showing a demo of what you would use this for than like features of the this for than like features of the this for than like features of the product. Overall, I don't like this flow product. Overall, I don't like this flow product. Overall, I don't like this flow for a landing page at all. I think it's for a landing page at all. I think it's for a landing page at all. I think it's super confusing. Let's see if Codex made super confusing. Let's see if Codex made super confusing. Let's see if Codex made it a little bit less intimidating. So, it a little bit less intimidating. So, it a little bit less intimidating. So, we've got sources captured. We have we've got sources captured. We have we've got sources captured. We have summary. We can look at the transcript.

  6. summary. We can look at the transcript. summary. We can look at the transcript. We can look at the notes. It shows us We can look at the notes. It shows us We can look at the notes. It shows us down here that we have two action items. down here that we have two action items. down here that we have two action items. So, a draft supplier brief for Taylor, So, a draft supplier brief for Taylor, So, a draft supplier brief for Taylor, and we can share the pilot score card uh and we can share the pilot score card uh and we can share the pilot score card uh that's on Mina. Okay, anyways, don't that's on Mina. Okay, anyways, don't that's on Mina. Okay, anyways, don't love this at all on either side. Let's love this at all on either side. Let's love this at all on either side. Let's see if we can compare other things. So, see if we can compare other things. So, see if we can compare other things. So, let's go to our pricing. We see here let's go to our pricing. We see here let's go to our pricing. We see here that we have monthly, annual, and that we have monthly, annual, and that we have monthly, annual, and meetings a month. If I go to plans on meetings a month. If I go to plans on meetings a month. If I go to plans on the right side, this is the difference the right side, this is the difference the right side, this is the difference in the way that they structured out sort in the way that they structured out sort in the way that they structured out sort of like the pricing side. We have more of like the pricing side. We have more of like the pricing side. We have more information down here with seats, extra information down here with seats, extra information down here with seats, extra seats, solo practice, seats, solo practice, seats, solo practice, um um um all that kind of stuff. This is all that kind of stuff. This is all that kind of stuff. This is obviously just way more overwhelming. obviously just way more overwhelming. obviously just way more overwhelming. Cloud Code was just like Cloud Code was just like Cloud Code was just like over building here, I think. Let's see over building here, I think. Let's see over building here, I think. Let's see if we go to tour how this looks if we go to tour how this looks if we go to tour how this looks different. So, on the tour side for different. So, on the tour side for different. So, on the tour side for Codex, we have this UI picture down Codex, we have this UI picture down Codex, we have this UI picture down here. Cloud Code once again, we have here. Cloud Code once again, we have here. Cloud Code once again, we have this UI picture. Let me open this one up this UI picture. Let me open this one up this UI picture. Let me open this one up full screen to see if it looks normal or full screen to see if it looks normal or full screen to see if it looks normal or if that's some sort of bug as well. if that's some sort of bug as well. if that's some sort of bug as well. Okay, even full screen with Cloud Code Okay, even full screen with Cloud Code Okay, even full screen with Cloud Code that we got this bug. So, that is that we got this bug. So, that is that we got this bug. So, that is obviously an issue. Normally, Cloud obviously an issue. Normally, Cloud obviously an issue. Normally, Cloud Code's pretty good at the vision loop Code's pretty good at the vision loop Code's pretty good at the vision loop and the verification, but I guess not and the verification, but I guess not and the verification, but I guess not right here. And it's just so wordy. right here. And it's just so wordy. right here. And it's just so wordy. Like, I don't think anyone wants to come Like, I don't think anyone wants to come Like, I don't think anyone wants to come through and read this much. It's It's through and read this much. It's It's through and read this much. It's It's not very visual at all. So, once again, not very visual at all. So, once again, not very visual at all. So, once again, I think that Codex is already winning I think that Codex is already winning I think that Codex is already winning this one. Let's go to integrations and this one. Let's go to integrations and this one. Let's go to integrations and see the difference here.

  7. see the difference here. see the difference here. I mean, this is just not struc- This I mean, this is just not struc- This I mean, this is just not struc- This feels like a feels like a feels like a super like technical software. No one's super like technical software. No one's super like technical software. No one's going to want to read this, whereas over going to want to read this, whereas over going to want to read this, whereas over here, there's less words. It's a little here, there's less words. It's a little here, there's less words. It's a little bit more column organized. It's a little bit more column organized. It's a little bit more column organized. It's a little bit cleaner. I mean, overall already, bit cleaner. I mean, overall already, bit cleaner. I mean, overall already, Codex is winning this one again. Let's Codex is winning this one again. Let's Codex is winning this one again. Let's click on the start a clean week on both click on the start a clean week on both click on the start a clean week on both of these sides. See what we get. Over of these sides. See what we get. Over of these sides. See what we get. Over here, we basically just would put in a here, we basically just would put in a here, we basically just would put in a name. So, let's just put in like Up at name. So, let's just put in like Up at name. So, let's just put in like Up at AI. Hit start a clean week. This is a AI. Hit start a clean week. This is a AI. Hit start a clean week. This is a sample workspace created locally. Okay. sample workspace created locally. Okay. sample workspace created locally. Okay. And over here, if we click on this And over here, if we click on this And over here, if we click on this button, it is just basically a trial. button, it is just basically a trial. button, it is just basically a trial. There's not really a call to action to There's not really a call to action to There's not really a call to action to put anything in. So, yeah. Anyways, put anything in. So, yeah. Anyways, put anything in. So, yeah. Anyways, Codex definitely wins this one from Codex definitely wins this one from Codex definitely wins this one from design and UI design and UI design and UI thought. Now, let's take a look at the thought. Now, let's take a look at the thought. Now, let's take a look at the pricing of each. Once again, Codex is pricing of each. Once again, Codex is pricing of each. Once again, Codex is just crushing. It took an hour and 12 just crushing. It took an hour and 12 just crushing. It took an hour and 12 minutes, whereas Cloud Code took 2 and minutes, whereas Cloud Code took 2 and minutes, whereas Cloud Code took 2 and 1/2 hours. It only cost 100,000 tokens 1/2 hours. It only cost 100,000 tokens 1/2 hours. It only cost 100,000 tokens and 20 bucks, whereas Cloud Code was and 20 bucks, whereas Cloud Code was and 20 bucks, whereas Cloud Code was almost again half a million tokens and almost again half a million tokens and almost again half a million tokens and 65 bucks. So, Codex is two and oh right 65 bucks. So, Codex is two and oh right 65 bucks. So, Codex is two and oh right now. Okay, so build number three does now. Okay, so build number three does now. Okay, so build number three does not work half screen. It just doesn't not work half screen. It just doesn't not work half screen. It just doesn't work. It wasn't built to be like that. work. It wasn't built to be like that. work. It wasn't built to be like that. That's fine. It doesn't work for either.

  8. That's fine. It doesn't work for either. That's fine. It doesn't work for either. So, this is Cloud Code. Let's just go So, this is Cloud Code. Let's just go So, this is Cloud Code. Let's just go through this one and then we'll go over through this one and then we'll go over through this one and then we'll go over and look at Codex. So, we have a company and look at Codex. So, we have a company and look at Codex. So, we have a company called Trail Latch. It seems like this called Trail Latch. It seems like this called Trail Latch. It seems like this is supposed to be something for camping. is supposed to be something for camping. is supposed to be something for camping. So, you're going camping and you want to So, you're going camping and you want to So, you're going camping and you want to be able to cook dinner. It looks like we be able to cook dinner. It looks like we be able to cook dinner. It looks like we have this like whole workstation that have this like whole workstation that have this like whole workstation that unfolds so that you can cook your meals, unfolds so that you can cook your meals, unfolds so that you can cook your meals, carry everything. It's like a kitchen. carry everything. It's like a kitchen. carry everything. It's like a kitchen. Under 90 seconds from latched to Under 90 seconds from latched to Under 90 seconds from latched to cooking. Okay, cool. So, I don't mind cooking. Okay, cool. So, I don't mind cooking. Okay, cool. So, I don't mind this design right now. This is kind of this design right now. This is kind of this design right now. This is kind of interactive. We scroll, we get the interactive. We scroll, we get the interactive. We scroll, we get the sideways scroll, it reveals itself. We sideways scroll, it reveals itself. We sideways scroll, it reveals itself. We have a prep deck that is, you know, this have a prep deck that is, you know, this have a prep deck that is, you know, this dimensions, 59 bucks sold separately. We dimensions, 59 bucks sold separately. We dimensions, 59 bucks sold separately. We have a stove shelf. It's showing the have a stove shelf. It's showing the have a stove shelf. It's showing the dimensions here. We have a utensil rail. dimensions here. We have a utensil rail. dimensions here. We have a utensil rail. It says four parts, one case. And we It says four parts, one case. And we It says four parts, one case. And we have the price. Now, we scroll down have the price. Now, we scroll down have the price. Now, we scroll down more, we see pull the latch. Drag the more, we see pull the latch. Drag the more, we see pull the latch. Drag the lever down. Arrow keys work, too. And it lever down. Arrow keys work, too. And it lever down. Arrow keys work, too. And it basically shows how this thing gets basically shows how this thing gets basically shows how this thing gets unlatched and unfolded. And now we have, unlatched and unfolded. And now we have, unlatched and unfolded. And now we have, it looks like a grill almost. So, that's it looks like a grill almost. So, that's it looks like a grill almost. So, that's pretty cool. It shows all the elements. pretty cool. It shows all the elements. pretty cool. It shows all the elements. I like that a lot. I like that a lot. Um I like that a lot. I like that a lot. Um I like that a lot. I like that a lot. Um that's actually the end of Okay, no, that's actually the end of Okay, no, that's actually the end of Okay, no, it's not. So, this is showing a picture it's not. So, this is showing a picture it's not. So, this is showing a picture down here of what that looks like. Then down here of what that looks like. Then down here of what that looks like. Then we have the washbasin. Okay, very cool. we have the washbasin. Okay, very cool. we have the washbasin. Okay, very cool. Once again, dry bin, lantern arm. It's Once again, dry bin, lantern arm. It's Once again, dry bin, lantern arm. It's the same scroll sort of style. We've got the same scroll sort of style. We've got the same scroll sort of style. We've got a side deck and then we get into some a side deck and then we get into some a side deck and then we get into some different ways you can buy this with the different ways you can buy this with the different ways you can buy this with the core, the bundle, family expansion, what core, the bundle, family expansion, what core, the bundle, family expansion, what it's made of, where it goes, different it's made of, where it goes, different it's made of, where it goes, different pictures. And then we have the call to pictures. And then we have the call to pictures. And then we have the call to action down here where you can actually action down here where you can actually action down here where you can actually go ahead and build your own setup. You go ahead and build your own setup. You go ahead and build your own setup. You can add these different items, see how can add these different items, see how can add these different items, see how much it costs, and then you can go ahead much it costs, and then you can go ahead much it costs, and then you can go ahead and order it. Okay, honestly, I really and order it. Okay, honestly, I really and order it. Okay, honestly, I really like this. I like that feel.

  9. like this. I like that feel. like this. I like that feel. Let's go over to the Codex version. Let's go over to the Codex version. Let's go over to the Codex version. Right off the bat, I do not like this. Right off the bat, I do not like this. Right off the bat, I do not like this. I'm like, what am I looking at? This I'm like, what am I looking at? This I'm like, what am I looking at? This text is hard to read. This is confusing. text is hard to read. This is confusing. text is hard to read. This is confusing. I think that Codex here was going for I think that Codex here was going for I think that Codex here was going for like a really interesting sort of like like a really interesting sort of like like a really interesting sort of like scroll style. And by the way, if you scroll style. And by the way, if you scroll style. And by the way, if you guys are liking some of these scroll guys are liking some of these scroll guys are liking some of these scroll animations, then check out this video. animations, then check out this video. animations, then check out this video. I'll tag it right up here. I did a full I'll tag it right up here. I did a full I'll tag it right up here. I did a full breakdown on the skill that I built that breakdown on the skill that I built that breakdown on the skill that I built that I use for all of my websites now, I use for all of my websites now, I use for all of my websites now, whether you're using Cloud Code or whether you're using Cloud Code or whether you're using Cloud Code or whether you're using Codex. They both whether you're using Codex. They both whether you're using Codex. They both utilize these skills in this video. utilize these skills in this video. utilize these skills in this video. Anyways, if you want to check that out, Anyways, if you want to check that out, Anyways, if you want to check that out, go to that video up there. It's got a go to that video up there. It's got a go to that video up there. It's got a free skill you guys can download. It's free skill you guys can download. It's free skill you guys can download. It's really nice. Anyways, same company Trail really nice. Anyways, same company Trail really nice. Anyways, same company Trail Latch, we see still cooking out of three Latch, we see still cooking out of three Latch, we see still cooking out of three bins and we see dinner starts before the bins and we see dinner starts before the bins and we see dinner starts before the headlamps come out. So, we have a call headlamps come out. So, we have a call headlamps come out. So, we have a call to action right here to build your to action right here to build your to action right here to build your setup, which takes you to a different setup, which takes you to a different setup, which takes you to a different page. Let's go back real quick and start page. Let's go back real quick and start page. Let's go back real quick and start scrolling down. So, we have like a scrolling down. So, we have like a scrolling down. So, we have like a journey, right? This line's going journey, right? This line's going journey, right? This line's going through. Okay, so I guess this is like a through. Okay, so I guess this is like a through. Okay, so I guess this is like a before and after. So, it's like this is before and after. So, it's like this is before and after. So, it's like this is what you used to do. Five setup jobs what you used to do. Five setup jobs what you used to do. Five setup jobs before heat, but over here is what you before heat, but over here is what you before heat, but over here is what you could do now. One case, three woods could do now. One case, three woods could do now. One case, three woods ready, set the case on stable ground, ready, set the case on stable ground, ready, set the case on stable ground, open the legs, latch on shelf and basin. open the legs, latch on shelf and basin. open the legs, latch on shelf and basin. Okay. Then, we have five pieces without Okay. Then, we have five pieces without Okay. Then, we have five pieces without a system and then over here we have a system and then over here we have a system and then over here we have everything returns to the case. So, it's everything returns to the case. So, it's everything returns to the case. So, it's a little scroll animation of that a little scroll animation of that a little scroll animation of that happening.

  10. happening. happening. Then, we have measure the cargo floor Then, we have measure the cargo floor Then, we have measure the cargo floor not the badge, weatherable surfaces. not the badge, weatherable surfaces. not the badge, weatherable surfaces. Okay. I mean, I just don't like this Okay. I mean, I just don't like this Okay. I mean, I just don't like this feel. Honestly, I think there's too much feel. Honestly, I think there's too much feel. Honestly, I think there's too much going on. It's a little more going on. It's a little more going on. It's a little more overwhelming. overwhelming. overwhelming. Your eyes as a viewer, you don't really Your eyes as a viewer, you don't really Your eyes as a viewer, you don't really know where to be looking. So, I don't know where to be looking. So, I don't know where to be looking. So, I don't love this vibe. I like how it comes over love this vibe. I like how it comes over love this vibe. I like how it comes over into one clean screen now. I think into one clean screen now. I think into one clean screen now. I think that's good. The The spacing's okay. that's good. The The spacing's okay. that's good. The The spacing's okay. And then we go to build your setup and And then we go to build your setup and And then we go to build your setup and this is where we choose the kitchen. We this is where we choose the kitchen. We this is where we choose the kitchen. We can choose the bundle, the family can choose the bundle, the family can choose the bundle, the family expansion and then we can go ahead and expansion and then we can go ahead and expansion and then we can go ahead and buy this. Let's see. We have something buy this. Let's see. We have something buy this. Let's see. We have something like vehicle fit. like vehicle fit. like vehicle fit. That's pretty cool. I mean, this looks That's pretty cool. I mean, this looks That's pretty cool. I mean, this looks good. Like this feels like a much better good. Like this feels like a much better good. Like this feels like a much better design than what we had on the main design than what we had on the main design than what we had on the main page. We have different products. Once page. We have different products. Once page. We have different products. Once again, I like this page. We have FAQs. again, I like this page. We have FAQs. again, I like this page. We have FAQs. This page is eh, it's okay. But, for the This page is eh, it's okay. But, for the This page is eh, it's okay. But, for the most part I like this vibe, but this most part I like this vibe, but this most part I like this vibe, but this isn't what people are going to see right isn't what people are going to see right isn't what people are going to see right away. What they're going to see right away. What they're going to see right away. What they're going to see right away is this and I don't like this at away is this and I don't like this at away is this and I don't like this at all. Whereas over here, all of the all. Whereas over here, all of the all. Whereas over here, all of the things are answered in one page. So, I things are answered in one page. So, I things are answered in one page. So, I think that Claude Code wins this one think that Claude Code wins this one think that Claude Code wins this one until we look at this pricing. So, once until we look at this pricing. So, once until we look at this pricing. So, once again, Claude Code took four agents, again, Claude Code took four agents, again, Claude Code took four agents, Codex was one, Claude Code was almost Codex was one, Claude Code was almost Codex was one, Claude Code was almost two hours, Codex was one.

  11. two hours, Codex was one. two hours, Codex was one. Um Claude Code took almost 400,000 Um Claude Code took almost 400,000 Um Claude Code took almost 400,000 tokens, Codex took 100,000 and Claude tokens, Codex took 100,000 and Claude tokens, Codex took 100,000 and Claude Code cost 42 bucks and Codex cost little Code cost 42 bucks and Codex cost little Code cost 42 bucks and Codex cost little under 20 once again. So, you guys are under 20 once again. So, you guys are under 20 once again. So, you guys are starting to feel the theme. Codex is starting to feel the theme. Codex is starting to feel the theme. Codex is faster, it's more efficient, and it's faster, it's more efficient, and it's faster, it's more efficient, and it's cheaper. And typically, I like the cheaper. And typically, I like the cheaper. And typically, I like the design better for the most part, but design better for the most part, but design better for the most part, but this one I would say Claude Code wins. this one I would say Claude Code wins. this one I would say Claude Code wins. So, right now I'd say it's like two to So, right now I'd say it's like two to So, right now I'd say it's like two to one on the design element, Codex to one on the design element, Codex to one on the design element, Codex to Claude Code. But, design obviously isn't Claude Code. But, design obviously isn't Claude Code. But, design obviously isn't everything. This stuff is, you know, everything. This stuff is, you know, everything. This stuff is, you know, very efficient. So, I think it's really very efficient. So, I think it's really very efficient. So, I think it's really important to call that out before we important to call that out before we important to call that out before we move on to the next one. It's not just move on to the next one. It's not just move on to the next one. It's not just about who can one-shot something the about who can one-shot something the about who can one-shot something the best. It's about how can I give best. It's about how can I give best. It's about how can I give instructions and how can they take what instructions and how can they take what instructions and how can they take what I say and turn that into an experience I say and turn that into an experience I say and turn that into an experience for me. And I think that right now, even for me. And I think that right now, even for me. And I think that right now, even though in this scenario I liked Claude though in this scenario I liked Claude though in this scenario I liked Claude Code's output better, if you were to be Code's output better, if you were to be Code's output better, if you were to be able to go back and forth with both of able to go back and forth with both of able to go back and forth with both of these models for like an hour or two these models for like an hour or two these models for like an hour or two hours, let's just say, maybe more than hours, let's just say, maybe more than hours, let's just say, maybe more than that since how long these took, that since how long these took, that since how long these took, which one of these is going to follow which one of these is going to follow which one of these is going to follow your instructions and be more efficient your instructions and be more efficient your instructions and be more efficient about it? Right now I would say that's about it? Right now I would say that's about it? Right now I would say that's going to be Codex. So, anyways, just going to be Codex. So, anyways, just going to be Codex. So, anyways, just keep that in mind as we move through to keep that in mind as we move through to keep that in mind as we move through to the next examples. I'm going to speed the next examples. I'm going to speed the next examples. I'm going to speed this up a little bit because I think you this up a little bit because I think you this up a little bit because I think you guys are starting to get the theme. All guys are starting to get the theme. All guys are starting to get the theme. All right, we're back with a split view. On right, we're back with a split view. On right, we're back with a split view. On the left we have Claude Code, on the the left we have Claude Code, on the the left we have Claude Code, on the right we have Codex. And on the left right we have Codex. And on the left right we have Codex. And on the left immediately there's just way too many immediately there's just way too many immediately there's just way too many words once again. So, that's probably words once again. So, that's probably words once again. So, that's probably something I feel like I need to update something I feel like I need to update something I feel like I need to update in the skill is think about the user in the skill is think about the user in the skill is think about the user journey more. Like it thinks about the journey more. Like it thinks about the journey more. Like it thinks about the user journey, but think about not user journey, but think about not user journey, but think about not overwhelming them and making sure the overwhelming them and making sure the overwhelming them and making sure the messaging is super clear, which I messaging is super clear, which I messaging is super clear, which I thought I prompted them to do that in thought I prompted them to do that in thought I prompted them to do that in here. I talk about the pain, the here. I talk about the pain, the here. I talk about the pain, the promise, and the person, but I guess it promise, and the person, but I guess it promise, and the person, but I guess it wasn't clear enough. So, anyways, we wasn't clear enough. So, anyways, we wasn't clear enough. So, anyways, we have present and clear. It sounds like have present and clear. It sounds like have present and clear. It sounds like it's a program that's supposed to help it's a program that's supposed to help it's a program that's supposed to help you with your speaking, speak more you with your speaking, speak more you with your speaking, speak more charismatically, public speaking, things charismatically, public speaking, things charismatically, public speaking, things like that. So, Claude Code this time

  12. like that. So, Claude Code this time like that. So, Claude Code this time shows like a before and after approach, shows like a before and after approach, shows like a before and after approach, I think. You can see here you do not I think. You can see here you do not I think. You can see here you do not need more charisma, you need a clearer need more charisma, you need a clearer need more charisma, you need a clearer way through. They've got a cohort, so way through. They've got a cohort, so way through. They've got a cohort, so the call to action's right up top to the call to action's right up top to the call to action's right up top to join this cohort to learn how to speak join this cohort to learn how to speak join this cohort to learn how to speak better. We go through, we can see what better. We go through, we can see what better. We go through, we can see what actually happens in the first 30 actually happens in the first 30 actually happens in the first 30 seconds. You speed up, you build a seconds. You speed up, you build a seconds. You speed up, you build a runway, you explain. Whereas over here, runway, you explain. Whereas over here, runway, you explain. Whereas over here, you've got, you know, different things you've got, you know, different things you've got, you know, different things going on. I think the design isn't bad, going on. I think the design isn't bad, going on. I think the design isn't bad, the color scheme isn't bad. We've got the color scheme isn't bad. We've got the color scheme isn't bad. We've got some animations here. I actually like some animations here. I actually like some animations here. I actually like this, right? It's like annotating this, right? It's like annotating this, right? It's like annotating things, it's highlighting things. It is, things, it's highlighting things. It is, things, it's highlighting things. It is, you know, kind of calling out issues. I you know, kind of calling out issues. I you know, kind of calling out issues. I think that's kind of a cool interactive think that's kind of a cool interactive think that's kind of a cool interactive experience, but I don't think this page experience, but I don't think this page experience, but I don't think this page has enough like depth and it's just too has enough like depth and it's just too has enough like depth and it's just too confusing. Whereas on Codex side, it confusing. Whereas on Codex side, it confusing. Whereas on Codex side, it crosses out the word charisma and it crosses out the word charisma and it crosses out the word charisma and it highlights the word clearer way through. highlights the word clearer way through. highlights the word clearer way through. We have different colors, so it switches We have different colors, so it switches We have different colors, so it switches up the depth, switches up the sections, up the depth, switches up the sections, up the depth, switches up the sections, which I like. We've got just less which I like. We've got just less which I like. We've got just less wordage. It's a lot easier to understand wordage. It's a lot easier to understand wordage. It's a lot easier to understand what I should be looking at. We've got a what I should be looking at. We've got a what I should be looking at. We've got a camera here. A camera becomes ordinary camera here. A camera becomes ordinary camera here. A camera becomes ordinary through useful reps. Different colors, through useful reps. Different colors, through useful reps. Different colors, more depth, cross-outs. I think Codex is more depth, cross-outs. I think Codex is more depth, cross-outs. I think Codex is going to win this one for sure. And on going to win this one for sure. And on going to win this one for sure. And on the cost side, very similar story. Four the cost side, very similar story. Four the cost side, very similar story. Four agents, one agent. Two hours, almost an agents, one agent. Two hours, almost an agents, one agent. Two hours, almost an hour. 440,000, 92,000, 42 bucks, little hour. 440,000, 92,000, 42 bucks, little hour. 440,000, 92,000, 42 bucks, little under 20 bucks. It's very, very under 20 bucks. It's very, very under 20 bucks. It's very, very consistently like this. Okay, here we consistently like this. Okay, here we consistently like this. Okay, here we go. Cloud Code on the left. Nice little go. Cloud Code on the left. Nice little go. Cloud Code on the left. Nice little animation. Codex on the right. No animation. Codex on the right. No animation. Codex on the right. No animation to kick off. We have North animation to kick off. We have North animation to kick off. We have North Ledger Studio. Cloud Code says, "Your Ledger Studio. Cloud Code says, "Your Ledger Studio. Cloud Code says, "Your numbers should tell you what to do numbers should tell you what to do numbers should tell you what to do next." And over here it says, "Next, next." And over here it says, "Next, next." And over here it says, "Next, your numbers should tell you what to do your numbers should tell you what to do your numbers should tell you what to do next." So, it's a fractional CFO counsel next." So, it's a fractional CFO counsel next." So, it's a fractional CFO counsel for founder-led creative agencies. Okay.

  13. for founder-led creative agencies. Okay. for founder-led creative agencies. Okay. So far, I'm liking Codex better. It has, So far, I'm liking Codex better. It has, So far, I'm liking Codex better. It has, you know, some buttons up here. It's got you know, some buttons up here. It's got you know, some buttons up here. It's got the logo. It just feels like a little the logo. It just feels like a little the logo. It just feels like a little bit more branded, a little bit more bit more branded, a little bit more bit more branded, a little bit more trusted. Let's start to scroll through a trusted. Let's start to scroll through a trusted. Let's start to scroll through a little bit. We have, once again, just a little bit. We have, once again, just a little bit. We have, once again, just a lot of words, not very many visuals. On lot of words, not very many visuals. On lot of words, not very many visuals. On the right, the right, the right, not as many words. And we have more not as many words. And we have more not as many words. And we have more structure. We have also like this path structure. We have also like this path structure. We have also like this path that we're scrolling through, which is that we're scrolling through, which is that we're scrolling through, which is cool. We have right away some numbers cool. We have right away some numbers cool. We have right away some numbers here. Here's an agency, 18 people, 4.3 here. Here's an agency, 18 people, 4.3 here. Here's an agency, 18 people, 4.3 million a year. And a profit and loss million a year. And a profit and loss million a year. And a profit and loss that looks fine. Over here, a month with that looks fine. Over here, a month with that looks fine. Over here, a month with the points. We're just getting more the points. We're just getting more the points. We're just getting more color switch-ups. We're getting more color switch-ups. We're getting more color switch-ups. We're getting more depth. We're getting images. We're depth. We're getting images. We're depth. We're getting images. We're getting a a path that's just a little getting a a path that's just a little getting a a path that's just a little bit more bit more bit more it's just nicer to follow, right? Like it's just nicer to follow, right? Like it's just nicer to follow, right? Like it just has more of a story. And this it just has more of a story. And this it just has more of a story. And this just feels like a report. Like who wants just feels like a report. Like who wants just feels like a report. Like who wants to really look through this? I to really look through this? I to really look through this? I definitely don't. I like the way they definitely don't. I like the way they definitely don't. I like the way they have this separation here. We have three have this separation here. We have three have this separation here. We have three ways to work with us. ways to work with us. ways to work with us. Um hopefully this isn't like it's Um hopefully this isn't like it's Um hopefully this isn't like it's extremely overwhelming the way I'm extremely overwhelming the way I'm extremely overwhelming the way I'm scrolling through both at the same time. scrolling through both at the same time. scrolling through both at the same time. I like that animation. This is just a I like that animation. This is just a I like that animation. This is just a much better branded feel than what we're much better branded feel than what we're much better branded feel than what we're getting over here. I didn't even know we getting over here. I didn't even know we getting over here. I didn't even know we were at the end of this doc. It just were at the end of this doc. It just were at the end of this doc. It just says, "Okay, we're done." So, Codex is says, "Okay, we're done." So, Codex is says, "Okay, we're done." So, Codex is going to take this one for me, once going to take this one for me, once going to take this one for me, once again. Two hours, one hour. 500K, 100K.

  14. again. Two hours, one hour. 500K, 100K. again. Two hours, one hour. 500K, 100K. 52 bucks, 18 bucks. It's pretty 52 bucks, 18 bucks. It's pretty 52 bucks, 18 bucks. It's pretty consistently the same. Okay, so now what consistently the same. Okay, so now what consistently the same. Okay, so now what I want to show you guys is those were I want to show you guys is those were I want to show you guys is those were examples where I gave them like the examples where I gave them like the examples where I gave them like the exact same prompt in the exact same exact same prompt in the exact same exact same prompt in the exact same brand guidelines, but I kind of left it brand guidelines, but I kind of left it brand guidelines, but I kind of left it open-ended. I basically said, "Hey, open-ended. I basically said, "Hey, open-ended. I basically said, "Hey, here's the copy. Here's the pain, here's the copy. Here's the pain, here's the copy. Here's the pain, person, promise. Here's the logos and person, promise. Here's the logos and person, promise. Here's the logos and stuff. Just build me a landing page." stuff. Just build me a landing page." stuff. Just build me a landing page." And that was basically it. Now, this And that was basically it. Now, this And that was basically it. Now, this example, I said something like example, I said something like example, I said something like "Build me a website. I want you to "Build me a website. I want you to "Build me a website. I want you to impress me. Make up the business. Make impress me. Make up the business. Make impress me. Make up the business. Make up the use case. Just show me what up the use case. Just show me what up the use case. Just show me what you're capable of and show me how good you're capable of and show me how good you're capable of and show me how good you are at design." And this is what we you are at design." And this is what we you are at design." And this is what we got. So, this one is Cloud Code. I'll got. So, this one is Cloud Code. I'll got. So, this one is Cloud Code. I'll reload that right now. We can see we reload that right now. We can see we reload that right now. We can see we have like these ripples or it's like have like these ripples or it's like have like these ripples or it's like sound waves or it's like real waves. It sound waves or it's like real waves. It sound waves or it's like real waves. It says, "Your room has a note. You hear it says, "Your room has a note. You hear it says, "Your room has a note. You hear it in every take." So, that's not a bad in every take." So, that's not a bad in every take." So, that's not a bad hero section. It's a little hero section. It's a little hero section. It's a little overwhelming, but overwhelming, but overwhelming, but it's not too bad. It's showing me what it's not too bad. It's showing me what it's not too bad. It's showing me what it's capable of building. it's capable of building. it's capable of building. We can see down here we have a little We can see down here we have a little We can see down here we have a little bit more of a journey. Although, this is bit more of a journey. Although, this is bit more of a journey. Although, this is a bit overwhelming. Like there's a lot a bit overwhelming. Like there's a lot a bit overwhelming. Like there's a lot of things going on here. This is like of things going on here. This is like of things going on here. This is like spaced out super weird. It's stretched spaced out super weird. It's stretched spaced out super weird. It's stretched out. I don't think it's supposed to be out. I don't think it's supposed to be out. I don't think it's supposed to be like that. But, they're giving us some like that. But, they're giving us some like that. But, they're giving us some sort of like demo almost to play with. sort of like demo almost to play with. sort of like demo almost to play with. We can choose the floor, the walls, the We can choose the floor, the walls, the We can choose the floor, the walls, the ceiling. Okay. We can also see on the ceiling. Okay. We can also see on the ceiling. Okay. We can also see on the right-hand side we know how much we've right-hand side we know how much we've right-hand side we know how much we've scrolled through because we can see like scrolled through because we can see like scrolled through because we can see like this little bar. We can also click this little bar. We can also click this little bar. We can also click through it to nav. Anyways, we can see through it to nav. Anyways, we can see through it to nav. Anyways, we can see some different elements here.

  15. some different elements here. some different elements here. We have um We have um We have um just a lot of words. Like there's just just a lot of words. Like there's just just a lot of words. Like there's just there's so much copy on the site, which there's so much copy on the site, which there's so much copy on the site, which I don't think is such a is a good thing. I don't think is such a is a good thing. I don't think is such a is a good thing. These numbers, once again, are These numbers, once again, are These numbers, once again, are stretched. I don't know if they verified stretched. I don't know if they verified stretched. I don't know if they verified the aspect ratio. the aspect ratio. the aspect ratio. But, this is not too bad. Um it's it's a But, this is not too bad. Um it's it's a But, this is not too bad. Um it's it's a bit more clear, but like I said, it's bit more clear, but like I said, it's bit more clear, but like I said, it's just very wordy. So, that's what Cloud just very wordy. So, that's what Cloud just very wordy. So, that's what Cloud Code wanted to build to impress us. Now, Code wanted to build to impress us. Now, Code wanted to build to impress us. Now, let's see if we go over to Codex. I'll let's see if we go over to Codex. I'll let's see if we go over to Codex. I'll give this one a refresh. This one loads give this one a refresh. This one loads give this one a refresh. This one loads up. We have We Heard Tomorrow. We have a up. We have We Heard Tomorrow. We have a up. We have We Heard Tomorrow. We have a little mouse animation, too, if you guys little mouse animation, too, if you guys little mouse animation, too, if you guys see that. Overall, I like the way this see that. Overall, I like the way this see that. Overall, I like the way this came through. It's just big hero text. came through. It's just big hero text. came through. It's just big hero text. It's very clear. It's not super wordy. It's very clear. It's not super wordy. It's very clear. It's not super wordy. We start to scroll down. The universe is We start to scroll down. The universe is We start to scroll down. The universe is not silent. It's incredibly quiet. We not silent. It's incredibly quiet. We not silent. It's incredibly quiet. We get this animation here. We get a little get this animation here. We get a little get this animation here. We get a little mouse animation as well. A nice dynamic mouse animation as well. A nice dynamic mouse animation as well. A nice dynamic background. Tune the dark. We can play background. Tune the dark. We can play background. Tune the dark. We can play with this here. And I'm not sure if this with this here. And I'm not sure if this with this here. And I'm not sure if this is playing any noise or anything, but we is playing any noise or anything, but we is playing any noise or anything, but we can like capture a signal. So, that's can like capture a signal. So, that's can like capture a signal. So, that's kind of interesting. kind of interesting. kind of interesting. But, overall, this design feels nice. But, overall, this design feels nice. But, overall, this design feels nice. Like I like the font. I like the feel. I Like I like the font. I like the feel. I Like I like the font. I like the feel. I like the way that this is coming like the way that this is coming like the way that this is coming through. Um 17-minute sunrise, okay. I through. Um 17-minute sunrise, okay. I through. Um 17-minute sunrise, okay. I mean, overall, this is just a better mean, overall, this is just a better mean, overall, this is just a better experience than what we were getting experience than what we were getting experience than what we were getting over here on the Claude Code side. I over here on the Claude Code side. I over here on the Claude Code side. I personally think this is just a much personally think this is just a much personally think this is just a much better branded experience. This is a better branded experience. This is a better branded experience. This is a pretty nice effect. We even have the pretty nice effect. We even have the pretty nice effect. We even have the glow still coming. I like this color glow still coming. I like this color glow still coming. I like this color scheme. I like how everything was scheme. I like how everything was scheme. I like how everything was simple. Codex wins this one as well. And simple. Codex wins this one as well. And simple. Codex wins this one as well. And if you take a look at the results, this if you take a look at the results, this if you take a look at the results, this one's insane. Codex took 8 minutes on one's insane. Codex took 8 minutes on one's insane. Codex took 8 minutes on this and spent 1 and 1/2 bucks.

  16. this and spent 1 and 1/2 bucks. this and spent 1 and 1/2 bucks. And Claude Code was very similar, you And Claude Code was very similar, you And Claude Code was very similar, you know, 330,000 tokens, almost 3 hours, 50 know, 330,000 tokens, almost 3 hours, 50 know, 330,000 tokens, almost 3 hours, 50 bucks. Like, that is absurd to me. That bucks. Like, that is absurd to me. That bucks. Like, that is absurd to me. That was a little bit different because it was a little bit different because it was a little bit different because it was super open-ended, but it's still was super open-ended, but it's still was super open-ended, but it's still interesting to understand how the coding interesting to understand how the coding interesting to understand how the coding models and the harnesses work under the models and the harnesses work under the models and the harnesses work under the hood when you give them such a vague hood when you give them such a vague hood when you give them such a vague prompt. Okay, so I think that this is prompt. Okay, so I think that this is prompt. Okay, so I think that this is the most interesting one of all. Because the most interesting one of all. Because the most interesting one of all. Because what I did here is I gave these guys the what I did here is I gave these guys the what I did here is I gave these guys the exact same prompt, and it was so, so, so exact same prompt, and it was so, so, so exact same prompt, and it was so, so, so specific. Like, every single piece of specific. Like, every single piece of specific. Like, every single piece of the website, what I wanted them to do. the website, what I wanted them to do. the website, what I wanted them to do. And these things came out basically And these things came out basically And these things came out basically identical. I mean, look at this. identical. I mean, look at this. identical. I mean, look at this. Everything about this is pretty much the Everything about this is pretty much the Everything about this is pretty much the exact same. There's small differences exact same. There's small differences exact same. There's small differences here. You can see the icons are a bit here. You can see the icons are a bit here. You can see the icons are a bit different. But everything is pretty much different. But everything is pretty much different. But everything is pretty much the exact same. And the reason why this the exact same. And the reason why this the exact same. And the reason why this is so interesting to me is this proves is so interesting to me is this proves is so interesting to me is this proves that the more specific you are, you can that the more specific you are, you can that the more specific you are, you can get basically any model get basically any model get basically any model or harness that's capable enough to give or harness that's capable enough to give or harness that's capable enough to give you exactly what you're looking for. And you exactly what you're looking for. And you exactly what you're looking for. And because I was so specific in these because I was so specific in these because I was so specific in these prompts, we got essentially the exact prompts, we got essentially the exact prompts, we got essentially the exact same thing. And why I wanted to show you same thing. And why I wanted to show you same thing. And why I wanted to show you guys this is because guys this is because guys this is because it wasn't the same when it came to cost it wasn't the same when it came to cost it wasn't the same when it came to cost and tokens again. Codex was still much and tokens again. Codex was still much and tokens again. Codex was still much more efficient, even though I gave them more efficient, even though I gave them more efficient, even though I gave them the exact same prompt and the outputs the exact same prompt and the outputs the exact same prompt and the outputs are the exact same. So, if this doesn't are the exact same. So, if this doesn't are the exact same. So, if this doesn't show you show you show you the way that the harness of Codex is the way that the harness of Codex is the way that the harness of Codex is being more efficient with its tokens, being more efficient with its tokens, being more efficient with its tokens, and and by the way, Claude Code was on and and by the way, Claude Code was on and and by the way, Claude Code was on Opus 5, Codex was on GPT-5.6 Soul. But Opus 5, Codex was on GPT-5.6 Soul. But Opus 5, Codex was on GPT-5.6 Soul. But it's just really interesting to see. And it's just really interesting to see. And it's just really interesting to see. And I did this again with an HTML report, I did this again with an HTML report, I did this again with an HTML report, which I'll show you guys right now.

  17. which I'll show you guys right now. which I'll show you guys right now. Okay, here's the next one. I said to Okay, here's the next one. I said to Okay, here's the next one. I said to build me an HTML report. I gave them all build me an HTML report. I gave them all build me an HTML report. I gave them all the info. And once again, they're pretty the info. And once again, they're pretty the info. And once again, they're pretty much the exact same. From a design much the exact same. From a design much the exact same. From a design perspective, they're the exact same perspective, they're the exact same perspective, they're the exact same pretty much. All the copies are pretty much. All the copies are pretty much. All the copies are obviously the exact same. Like I said, I obviously the exact same. Like I said, I obviously the exact same. Like I said, I was so, so specific. But, these are the was so, so specific. But, these are the was so, so specific. But, these are the same outputs. Like, you wouldn't really same outputs. Like, you wouldn't really same outputs. Like, you wouldn't really look at one and be like, "Oh, this one's look at one and be like, "Oh, this one's look at one and be like, "Oh, this one's significantly better than the other." significantly better than the other." significantly better than the other." But, if we go to the cost, But, if we go to the cost, But, if we go to the cost, this is significantly better than the this is significantly better than the this is significantly better than the other. It was faster. It was cheaper. It other. It was faster. It was cheaper. It other. It was faster. It was cheaper. It was more efficient. It's just really, was more efficient. It's just really, was more efficient. It's just really, really, really interesting to me, and I really, really interesting to me, and I really, really interesting to me, and I hope that this hope that this hope that this starts to paint some sort of picture in starts to paint some sort of picture in starts to paint some sort of picture in your guys' minds of like, maybe you your guys' minds of like, maybe you your guys' minds of like, maybe you should start using Codex a little bit should start using Codex a little bit should start using Codex a little bit more for things that you originally more for things that you originally more for things that you originally thought was Claude, because these things thought was Claude, because these things thought was Claude, because these things are evolving so fast every single day. are evolving so fast every single day. are evolving so fast every single day. I'm not out here saying outright Codex I'm not out here saying outright Codex I'm not out here saying outright Codex is better than Claude. I'm saying that I is better than Claude. I'm saying that I is better than Claude. I'm saying that I have both subscriptions, and I use them have both subscriptions, and I use them have both subscriptions, and I use them both every day, and I'm constantly both every day, and I'm constantly both every day, and I'm constantly changing my opinion, and I'm constantly changing my opinion, and I'm constantly changing my opinion, and I'm constantly testing what's possible. So, let me just testing what's possible. So, let me just testing what's possible. So, let me just give you a quick run down on the overall give you a quick run down on the overall give you a quick run down on the overall stats. We had 25 total agents with stats. We had 25 total agents with stats. We had 25 total agents with Claude Code, and nine total of sub Claude Code, and nine total of sub Claude Code, and nine total of sub agents with Codex. We had a total of 14 agents with Codex. We had a total of 14 agents with Codex. We had a total of 14 hours for Claude Code, and 5 hours for hours for Claude Code, and 5 hours for hours for Claude Code, and 5 hours for Codex. Claude Code used almost 3 million Codex. Claude Code used almost 3 million Codex. Claude Code used almost 3 million tokens on the output side, output tokens on the output side, output tokens on the output side, output tokens, not input tokens, as well. Codex tokens, not input tokens, as well. Codex tokens, not input tokens, as well. Codex used about 550,000 output tokens, and if used about 550,000 output tokens, and if used about 550,000 output tokens, and if we were doing API billing, this would we were doing API billing, this would we were doing API billing, this would have costed me about $444 in Claude have costed me about $444 in Claude have costed me about $444 in Claude Code, and about 100 bucks in Codex. And Code, and about 100 bucks in Codex. And Code, and about 100 bucks in Codex. And I'm sorry I keep saying costed. I got I'm sorry I keep saying costed. I got I'm sorry I keep saying costed. I got ripped apart for a different video when ripped apart for a different video when ripped apart for a different video when I kept saying costed. It's just I don't I kept saying costed. It's just I don't I kept saying costed. It's just I don't know why. Comes naturally to me. Claude know why. Comes naturally to me. Claude know why. Comes naturally to me. Claude Code cost 444 bucks for me here. Sorry Code cost 444 bucks for me here. Sorry Code cost 444 bucks for me here. Sorry about that, guys. But, that is going to about that, guys. But, that is going to about that, guys. But, that is going to do it for today. So, I hope you guys do it for today. So, I hope you guys do it for today. So, I hope you guys enjoyed the video, and if you did, I enjoyed the video, and if you did, I enjoyed the video, and if you did, I would really appreciate it if you could would really appreciate it if you could would really appreciate it if you could leave it a like. And as always, I leave it a like. And as always, I leave it a like. And as always, I appreciate you guys making it to the end appreciate you guys making it to the end appreciate you guys making it to the end of the video, and I'll see you on the of the video, and I'll see you on the of the video, and I'll see you on the next one.

  18. next one. next one. Thanks, everyone.

Summary

This analysis compares website generation by Claude Code and Codex using identical prompts and data to determine which performs better in design and functionality. Key metrics like subpages, time, cost, and output tokens are examined to provide data-driven insights. The takeaway is that Codex initially appears more user-friendly with better navigation and clarity compared to Claude Code's more verbose output.

View original episode ↗