Elden Ring vs. Tears of the Kingdom Which is the Better Open World Game? EXP Podcast ep 14

Hey guys, Nintendrew here and welcome Hey guys, Nintendrew here and welcome back to the EXP podcast. Today, I am back to the EXP podcast. Today, I am back to the EXP podcast. Today, I am here with two very special guests. I here with two very special guests. I here with two very special guests. I have my buddy Shane have my buddy Shane have my buddy Shane who you guys might remember from very who you guys might remember from very who you guys might remember from very old episodes of the EXP podcast way back old episodes of the EXP podcast way back old episodes of the EXP podcast way back last year at the end of the year. And I last year at the end of the year. And I last year at the end of the year. And I have Dylan from Lunatunes. So, you guys have Dylan from Lunatunes. So, you guys have Dylan from Lunatunes. So, you guys want to introduce yourself? Who wants to want to introduce yourself? Who wants to want to introduce yourself? Who wants to go first? Either of you guys can go. go first? Either of you guys can go. go first? Either of you guys can go. go first, Shane. Go for it. go first, Shane. Go for it. go first, Shane. Go for it. Nice to meet you guys. I'm Shane, of Nice to meet you guys. I'm Shane, of Nice to meet you guys. I'm Shane, of course. Um course. Um course. Um I guess real quick, I mean, I'm really I guess real quick, I mean, I'm really I guess real quick, I mean, I'm really into, you know, like action-adventure into, you know, like action-adventure into, you know, like action-adventure games. Love them. Uh games. Love them. Uh games. Love them. Uh you know, obviously, around me, like you you know, obviously, around me, like you you know, obviously, around me, like you can see that I'm a huge nerd for games. can see that I'm a huge nerd for games. can see that I'm a huge nerd for games. So, yeah. PC gaming is awesome. Oh, So, yeah. PC gaming is awesome. Oh, So, yeah. PC gaming is awesome. Oh, yeah. Yeah, PC. Yeah, just the massive yeah. Yeah, PC. Yeah, just the massive yeah. Yeah, PC. Yeah, just the massive RGB. You can see the lights over here. RGB. You can see the lights over here. RGB. You can see the lights over here. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And uh I'm I'm Oh, yeah. Yeah. And uh I'm I'm Oh, yeah. Yeah. And uh I'm I'm Lunatunes. Um obviously, you can find me Lunatunes. Um obviously, you can find me Lunatunes. Um obviously, you can find me at Lunatunes_25, at Lunatunes_25, at Lunatunes_25, I think it is. I think it is. I think it is. Uh but yeah, uh reviews are kind of my Uh but yeah, uh reviews are kind of my Uh but yeah, uh reviews are kind of my bread and butter, but I play all all bread and butter, but I play all all bread and butter, but I play all all kinds of games, Nintendo Switch, PS5. Um kinds of games, Nintendo Switch, PS5. Um kinds of games, Nintendo Switch, PS5. Um I try to get my toes in a little bit of I try to get my toes in a little bit of I try to get my toes in a little bit of everything. So, everything. So, everything. So, feel free to check out the channel, feel free to check out the channel, feel free to check out the channel, Nintendrew. Thanks for uh having us on, Nintendrew. Thanks for uh having us on, Nintendrew. Thanks for uh having us on, man. Yeah, without a doubt. Yeah, man. Yeah, without a doubt. Yeah, man. Yeah, without a doubt. Yeah, definitely. And I knew I had to get definitely. And I knew I had to get definitely. And I knew I had to get these two on this specific episode these two on this specific episode these two on this specific episode because ever since the Tears of the because ever since the Tears of the because ever since the Tears of the Kingdom hype was going and people were Kingdom hype was going and people were Kingdom hype was going and people were comparing it to other games, I was like, comparing it to other games, I was like, comparing it to other games, I was like, "We're going to be comparing this game a "We're going to be comparing this game a "We're going to be comparing this game a lot to a game last year, which we all lot to a game last year, which we all lot to a game last year, which we all enjoyed, which is Elden Ring." And these enjoyed, which is Elden Ring." And these enjoyed, which is Elden Ring." And these two guys are huge FromSoftware fans, two guys are huge FromSoftware fans, two guys are huge FromSoftware fans, huge Elden Ring fans, and I love the huge Elden Ring fans, and I love the huge Elden Ring fans, and I love the game as well. And throughout my

game as well. And throughout my game as well. And throughout my experience with Tears of the Kingdom, experience with Tears of the Kingdom, experience with Tears of the Kingdom, I've been saying, "Oh, this was better I've been saying, "Oh, this was better I've been saying, "Oh, this was better in this game. This was better in this in this game. This was better in this in this game. This was better in this game." Like, comparing Elden Ring and game." Like, comparing Elden Ring and game." Like, comparing Elden Ring and Tears of the Kingdom, I thought, "Let's Tears of the Kingdom, I thought, "Let's Tears of the Kingdom, I thought, "Let's just just just compare the games, Elden Ring versus compare the games, Elden Ring versus compare the games, Elden Ring versus Tears of the Kingdom, and see which one Tears of the Kingdom, and see which one Tears of the Kingdom, and see which one game did better over the other." Because game did better over the other." Because game did better over the other." Because Elden Ring last year was like the game Elden Ring last year was like the game Elden Ring last year was like the game of the year. Everyone was talking about of the year. Everyone was talking about of the year. Everyone was talking about it. Tears of the Kingdom this year may it. Tears of the Kingdom this year may it. Tears of the Kingdom this year may or may not be game of the year, we'll or may not be game of the year, we'll or may not be game of the year, we'll see. We don't know yet. But yeah, see. We don't know yet. But yeah, see. We don't know yet. But yeah, they're very similar, yet very they're very similar, yet very they're very similar, yet very different. So, we're going to split this different. So, we're going to split this different. So, we're going to split this into three sections, exploration, into three sections, exploration, into three sections, exploration, combat, and story. So, combat, and story. So, combat, and story. So, let's get into the combat first because let's get into the combat first because let's get into the combat first because I think we have a lot to talk about I think we have a lot to talk about I think we have a lot to talk about that. that. that. Um Um Um Shane, you want to start us off? What Shane, you want to start us off? What Shane, you want to start us off? What you love about Elden Ring combat? Cuz I you love about Elden Ring combat? Cuz I you love about Elden Ring combat? Cuz I know there's a lot that you like about know there's a lot that you like about know there's a lot that you like about it. it. it. And so, I mean, since we're like And so, I mean, since we're like And so, I mean, since we're like essentially comparing them, right? So, essentially comparing them, right? So, essentially comparing them, right? So, off the bat, I think Elden Ring has like off the bat, I think Elden Ring has like off the bat, I think Elden Ring has like the way better combat, right? Um I mean, the way better combat, right? Um I mean, the way better combat, right? Um I mean, we can talk about different aspects, we can talk about different aspects, we can talk about different aspects, right? Like, when it comes to just the right? Like, when it comes to just the right? Like, when it comes to just the builds themselves, you know, like builds themselves, you know, like builds themselves, you know, like different classes we have, different classes we have, different classes we have, different spells, abilities. Not only different spells, abilities. Not only different spells, abilities. Not only that, but just like how you just like that, but just like how you just like that, but just like how you just like even fight a boss. Do you do it more even fight a boss. Do you do it more even fight a boss. Do you do it more defensively, aggressive, and all these defensively, aggressive, and all these defensively, aggressive, and all these other different ways to like engage, you other different ways to like engage, you other different ways to like engage, you know, enemies or bosses or whatever.

know, enemies or bosses or whatever. know, enemies or bosses or whatever. It's just I feel like it's so much more It's just I feel like it's so much more It's just I feel like it's so much more creative in so many different ways creative in so many different ways creative in so many different ways compared to, you know, Tears of the compared to, you know, Tears of the compared to, you know, Tears of the Kingdom. Yeah. Kingdom. Yeah. Kingdom. Yeah. Um Um Um Yeah, so like just or I guess to just Yeah, so like just or I guess to just Yeah, so like just or I guess to just start it off as a basic sense, right? start it off as a basic sense, right? start it off as a basic sense, right? Like, when I play Elden Ring, right? The Like, when I play Elden Ring, right? The Like, when I play Elden Ring, right? The reason the thing that keeps me going in reason the thing that keeps me going in reason the thing that keeps me going in that game is straight up just the that game is straight up just the that game is straight up just the enemies and the bosses. That is what enemies and the bosses. That is what enemies and the bosses. That is what keeps me going. That's what makes me keeps me going. That's what makes me keeps me going. That's what makes me excited to find that next dungeon. excited to find that next dungeon. excited to find that next dungeon. That's what makes me excited to keep That's what makes me excited to keep That's what makes me excited to keep going through the game. So, Oh, yeah, going through the game. So, Oh, yeah, going through the game. So, Oh, yeah, without a doubt. Yeah. without a doubt. Yeah. without a doubt. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, FromSoftware definitely Yeah, I mean, FromSoftware definitely Yeah, I mean, FromSoftware definitely like revolves their games around the like revolves their games around the like revolves their games around the combat. Like, that is the bread and combat. Like, that is the bread and combat. Like, that is the bread and butter. That's like what you what that's butter. That's like what you what that's butter. That's like what you what that's what we play the games for. I mean, the what we play the games for. I mean, the what we play the games for. I mean, the story and the lore and the environments story and the lore and the environments story and the lore and the environments and visuals are all there as well, but and visuals are all there as well, but and visuals are all there as well, but like the combat is why we keep coming like the combat is why we keep coming like the combat is why we keep coming back. But I think Tears of the Kingdom back. But I think Tears of the Kingdom back. But I think Tears of the Kingdom combat almost has like two tiers. Cuz combat almost has like two tiers. Cuz combat almost has like two tiers. Cuz when you compare like Elden Ring to when you compare like Elden Ring to when you compare like Elden Ring to Tears of the Kingdom, you have the base Tears of the Kingdom, you have the base Tears of the Kingdom, you have the base combat when you just got a sword and combat when you just got a sword and combat when you just got a sword and board, it's you versus two or three board, it's you versus two or three board, it's you versus two or three opponents.

opponents. opponents. We're just swinging and blocking and We're just swinging and blocking and We're just swinging and blocking and parrying, right? You can compare Elden parrying, right? You can compare Elden parrying, right? You can compare Elden Ring and Tears of the Kingdom very Ring and Tears of the Kingdom very Ring and Tears of the Kingdom very easily that way and say Elden Ring by easily that way and say Elden Ring by easily that way and say Elden Ring by far has better combat. But far has better combat. But far has better combat. But as soon as you start incorporating the as soon as you start incorporating the as soon as you start incorporating the ability to build structures, build ability to build structures, build ability to build structures, build weapons, and the more creative you get, weapons, and the more creative you get, weapons, and the more creative you get, the the more wild and exciting and the the more wild and exciting and the the more wild and exciting and adventurous the combat in Tears of the adventurous the combat in Tears of the adventurous the combat in Tears of the Kingdom actually becomes to a point Kingdom actually becomes to a point Kingdom actually becomes to a point where where where I could I could I could I don't necessarily agree with what I'm I don't necessarily agree with what I'm I don't necessarily agree with what I'm about to say, but you could argue that about to say, but you could argue that about to say, but you could argue that Tears of the Kingdom combat is better Tears of the Kingdom combat is better Tears of the Kingdom combat is better than Elden Ring just due to the than Elden Ring just due to the than Elden Ring just due to the expansiveness of your own imagination expansiveness of your own imagination expansiveness of your own imagination with the different things that you can with the different things that you can with the different things that you can build. Now, I personally still prefer build. Now, I personally still prefer build. Now, I personally still prefer the Elden Ring combat because it is so the Elden Ring combat because it is so the Elden Ring combat because it is so precise. You got to be like pinpoint precise. You got to be like pinpoint precise. You got to be like pinpoint accurate, and when you pull it off, it accurate, and when you pull it off, it accurate, and when you pull it off, it feels really good. Whereas like the base feels really good. Whereas like the base feels really good. Whereas like the base combat in Tears of the Kingdom, when combat in Tears of the Kingdom, when combat in Tears of the Kingdom, when you're just swinging your sword, feels a you're just swinging your sword, feels a you're just swinging your sword, feels a little sluggish, feels a little clunky little sluggish, feels a little clunky little sluggish, feels a little clunky to me. to me. to me. Um and I'm also not like the super Um and I'm also not like the super Um and I'm also not like the super inventive, imaginative person who's inventive, imaginative person who's inventive, imaginative person who's going to build like a three-story tall going to build like a three-story tall going to build like a three-story tall structure that's going to destroy a structure that's going to destroy a structure that's going to destroy a Bokoblin, you know what I'm saying? But Bokoblin, you know what I'm saying? But Bokoblin, you know what I'm saying? But I've seen what people can do with Tears I've seen what people can do with Tears I've seen what people can do with Tears of the Kingdom uh building weaponry, of the Kingdom uh building weaponry, of the Kingdom uh building weaponry, tanks, machines, robots. Um and then you tanks, machines, robots. Um and then you tanks, machines, robots. Um and then you also see, you know, some crazy dudes who also see, you know, some crazy dudes who also see, you know, some crazy dudes who just like just like just like comboing a Lynel to death into oblivion comboing a Lynel to death into oblivion comboing a Lynel to death into oblivion with even just the base combat. So, it I with even just the base combat. So, it I with even just the base combat. So, it I think it is a little bit more of a think it is a little bit more of a think it is a little bit more of a difficult comparison than just being difficult comparison than just being difficult comparison than just being able to say, "Oh, Elden Ring's better able to say, "Oh, Elden Ring's better able to say, "Oh, Elden Ring's better because it's more precise and it's more because it's more precise and it's more because it's more precise and it's more mechanical." Because once you start mechanical." Because once you start mechanical." Because once you start bringing in like the building mechanics bringing in like the building mechanics bringing in like the building mechanics of Tears of the Kingdom, it does get a

of Tears of the Kingdom, it does get a of Tears of the Kingdom, it does get a little more dicey. Oh, yeah. And I little more dicey. Oh, yeah. And I little more dicey. Oh, yeah. And I actually wanted to add to that too as actually wanted to add to that too as actually wanted to add to that too as well. Like, another I guess you said well. Like, another I guess you said well. Like, another I guess you said there was two tiers to that, right? there was two tiers to that, right? there was two tiers to that, right? Like, something that I actually really Like, something that I actually really Like, something that I actually really liked about um Tears of the Kingdom, liked about um Tears of the Kingdom, liked about um Tears of the Kingdom, right? Was those I mean, are we doing right? Was those I mean, are we doing right? Was those I mean, are we doing spoilers? Yeah, yeah. The game's been spoilers? Yeah, yeah. The game's been spoilers? Yeah, yeah. The game's been out for a while, I think. out for a while, I think. out for a while, I think. Dylan, you're okay with that, right? Dylan, you're okay with that, right? Dylan, you're okay with that, right? Yeah, I'm totally fine. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm totally fine. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm totally fine. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So, of course, you know, we get Okay. So, of course, you know, we get Okay. So, of course, you know, we get those like four like, you know, members those like four like, you know, members those like four like, you know, members with you, right? Or I guess I should say with you, right? Or I guess I should say with you, right? Or I guess I should say five, right? five, right? five, right? yeah. Yeah, sages. And then the thing yeah. Yeah, sages. And then the thing yeah. Yeah, sages. And then the thing is, so what I actually really appreciate is, so what I actually really appreciate is, so what I actually really appreciate about Tears of the Kingdom is I know a about Tears of the Kingdom is I know a about Tears of the Kingdom is I know a lot of people use mainly those sages for lot of people use mainly those sages for lot of people use mainly those sages for puzzles and traversal, but I love to use puzzles and traversal, but I love to use puzzles and traversal, but I love to use them for combos in terms of combat. So, them for combos in terms of combat. So, them for combos in terms of combat. So, like, like, like, you know, hit them with the What is you know, hit them with the What is you know, hit them with the What is that? Wrecking Ball. And then also combo that? Wrecking Ball. And then also combo that? Wrecking Ball. And then also combo that with the electrical like um you that with the electrical like um you that with the electrical like um you know, AoE field. Like, I did a lot of know, AoE field. Like, I did a lot of know, AoE field. Like, I did a lot of that to like maximize efficiency in that to like maximize efficiency in that to like maximize efficiency in terms of like keeping my weapons good terms of like keeping my weapons good terms of like keeping my weapons good and stuff in uh Tears of the Kingdom. and stuff in uh Tears of the Kingdom. and stuff in uh Tears of the Kingdom. There's a lot I want to say about that There's a lot I want to say about that There's a lot I want to say about that in terms of the cons though, but like in terms of the cons though, but like in terms of the cons though, but like that aspect of it as well was really that aspect of it as well was really that aspect of it as well was really fun, and I liked that. I I did love Fuse fun, and I liked that. I I did love Fuse fun, and I liked that. I I did love Fuse a lot. Like, Fuse was actually the a lot. Like, Fuse was actually the a lot. Like, Fuse was actually the ability that I was most excited to use ability that I was most excited to use ability that I was most excited to use before the game even came out cuz I was before the game even came out cuz I was before the game even came out cuz I was like, "This is going to change combat like, "This is going to change combat like, "This is going to change combat entirely." But in the back of my head, I entirely." But in the back of my head, I entirely." But in the back of my head, I was like, "Oh, it's the same like style was like, "Oh, it's the same like style was like, "Oh, it's the same like style of combat, still clunky, still flurry of combat, still clunky, still flurry of combat, still clunky, still flurry rushes, still charge attacks." And rushes, still charge attacks." And rushes, still charge attacks." And I it didn't really hit me until I I it didn't really hit me until I I it didn't really hit me until I started playing the game because I did a started playing the game because I did a started playing the game because I did a video where I was like, "Five pros, five video where I was like, "Five pros, five video where I was like, "Five pros, five cons in Tears of the Kingdom." One of my cons in Tears of the Kingdom." One of my cons in Tears of the Kingdom." One of my cons was that the combat felt

cons was that the combat felt cons was that the combat felt very similar to how it did in Breath of very similar to how it did in Breath of very similar to how it did in Breath of the Wild. And the Breath of the Wild the Wild. And the Breath of the Wild the Wild. And the Breath of the Wild combat felt weird even compared to like combat felt weird even compared to like combat felt weird even compared to like something like Twilight Princess. I something like Twilight Princess. I something like Twilight Princess. I don't know what you think, Lunatunes, don't know what you think, Lunatunes, don't know what you think, Lunatunes, because because because Twilight Princess like even the Twilight Princess like even the Twilight Princess like even the animations and the impact just felt animations and the impact just felt animations and the impact just felt good. It felt like you're really getting good. It felt like you're really getting good. It felt like you're really getting across your attacks, and you had the across your attacks, and you had the across your attacks, and you had the hidden skills to add some variations to hidden skills to add some variations to hidden skills to add some variations to things. And that's what Elden Ring had things. And that's what Elden Ring had things. And that's what Elden Ring had that I missed in Breath of the Wild and that I missed in Breath of the Wild and that I missed in Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom. Cuz Elden Ring had Tears of the Kingdom. Cuz Elden Ring had Tears of the Kingdom. Cuz Elden Ring had like a you get that one like huge like a you get that one like huge like a you get that one like huge Bloodhound sword, and you can do like Bloodhound sword, and you can do like Bloodhound sword, and you can do like the quick dash forward and backwards. the quick dash forward and backwards. the quick dash forward and backwards. You have the Moonveil Katana, which can You have the Moonveil Katana, which can You have the Moonveil Katana, which can do the beams of light and whatever. And do the beams of light and whatever. And do the beams of light and whatever. And you have so many different variations on you have so many different variations on you have so many different variations on how you can play. how you can play. how you can play. And Breath of the Wild had that with oh, And Breath of the Wild had that with oh, And Breath of the Wild had that with oh, you have different armor sets, you have you have different armor sets, you have you have different armor sets, you have different weapons. different weapons. different weapons. Change out your weapons cuz they will Change out your weapons cuz they will Change out your weapons cuz they will break. And Tears of the Kingdom expanded break. And Tears of the Kingdom expanded break. And Tears of the Kingdom expanded on that with Fuse. You're like, on that with Fuse. You're like, on that with Fuse. You're like, "Your weapons are going to break, but "Your weapons are going to break, but "Your weapons are going to break, but Fuse more and experiment more, and we'll Fuse more and experiment more, and we'll Fuse more and experiment more, and we'll like the game will be more expansive and like the game will be more expansive and like the game will be more expansive and more creative." But if there were more more creative." But if there were more more creative." But if there were more weapon types, if there was more skills weapon types, if there was more skills weapon types, if there was more skills you could use, there was more like ways you could use, there was more like ways you could use, there was more like ways to to to deal damage that wasn't just, "Hey, deal damage that wasn't just, "Hey, deal damage that wasn't just, "Hey, let's Fuse one super powerful material let's Fuse one super powerful material let's Fuse one super powerful material to a super powerful weapon and just get to a super powerful weapon and just get to a super powerful weapon and just get the numbers as high as they can."

the numbers as high as they can." the numbers as high as they can." Because um there were times even early Because um there were times even early Because um there were times even early in the game that I felt severely in the game that I felt severely in the game that I felt severely underpowered when I didn't think I underpowered when I didn't think I underpowered when I didn't think I needed to be that underpowered. And I needed to be that underpowered. And I needed to be that underpowered. And I was like, "I just feel like I'm just was like, "I just feel like I'm just was like, "I just feel like I'm just getting the damage numbers higher and getting the damage numbers higher and getting the damage numbers higher and higher. I'm not creatively higher. I'm not creatively higher. I'm not creatively doing things." Until later on, then I doing things." Until later on, then I doing things." Until later on, then I was like, "Oh, I'm going to do this and was like, "Oh, I'm going to do this and was like, "Oh, I'm going to do this and Fuse this and do some creative way to Fuse this and do some creative way to Fuse this and do some creative way to like get across this enemy." But that like get across this enemy." But that like get across this enemy." But that complexity in Elden Ring's combat I felt complexity in Elden Ring's combat I felt complexity in Elden Ring's combat I felt was a little missing, especially having was a little missing, especially having was a little missing, especially having played Elden Ring last year, playing played Elden Ring last year, playing played Elden Ring last year, playing Tears of the Kingdom again this year. Tears of the Kingdom again this year. Tears of the Kingdom again this year. So, what do you guys think of that about So, what do you guys think of that about So, what do you guys think of that about that? that? that? Yeah, I mean, I think I have I have two Yeah, I mean, I think I have I have two Yeah, I mean, I think I have I have two points on on what you said. The first points on on what you said. The first points on on what you said. The first being being being you want abilities. Do you want combat you want abilities. Do you want combat you want abilities. Do you want combat abilities in Tears of the Kingdom? Uh in abilities in Tears of the Kingdom? Uh in abilities in Tears of the Kingdom? Uh in Elden Ring, you pick up so many Elden Ring, you pick up so many Elden Ring, you pick up so many different such a huge variety of click different such a huge variety of click different such a huge variety of click one button and you're going to do an one button and you're going to do an one button and you're going to do an awesome ability, right? But the awesome ability, right? But the awesome ability, right? But the challenge being, well, you got to wait challenge being, well, you got to wait challenge being, well, you got to wait for a window. You got to make sure for a window. You got to make sure for a window. You got to make sure you're safe. You're not going to be you're safe. You're not going to be you're safe. You're not going to be drawbacks if cuz if you whiff this, you drawbacks if cuz if you whiff this, you drawbacks if cuz if you whiff this, you know, you're going to pay the price, know, you're going to pay the price, know, you're going to pay the price, right? right? right? Um I think Tears of the Kingdom would Um I think Tears of the Kingdom would Um I think Tears of the Kingdom would definitely benefit from like some combat definitely benefit from like some combat definitely benefit from like some combat abilities. I think in Twilight Princess abilities. I think in Twilight Princess abilities. I think in Twilight Princess and maybe in Wind Waker Wind Waker had a and maybe in Wind Waker Wind Waker had a and maybe in Wind Waker Wind Waker had a few too.

few too. few too. you had that one where you could like you had that one where you could like you had that one where you could like dodge roll twice like around the dodge roll twice like around the dodge roll twice like around the backside of uh of a Darknut, and then backside of uh of a Darknut, and then backside of uh of a Darknut, and then you like spin up to like cut off their you like spin up to like cut off their you like spin up to like cut off their armor, right? And then just the normal armor, right? And then just the normal armor, right? And then just the normal uh Bokoblins and Moblins in Forsaken uh Bokoblins and Moblins in Forsaken uh Bokoblins and Moblins in Forsaken Fortress and stuff in Wind Waker. Fortress and stuff in Wind Waker. Fortress and stuff in Wind Waker. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm not Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm not Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm not Sword. Skyward Sword had complexity to Sword. Skyward Sword had complexity to Sword. Skyward Sword had complexity to its combat cuz enemies would be like its combat cuz enemies would be like its combat cuz enemies would be like this and this and Yeah. Mhm. you had to this and this and Yeah. Mhm. you had to this and this and Yeah. Mhm. you had to kind of swing in the appropriate kind of swing in the appropriate kind of swing in the appropriate direction or stab sometimes and do all direction or stab sometimes and do all direction or stab sometimes and do all that. So, that was yeah, that was kind that. So, that was yeah, that was kind that. So, that was yeah, that was kind of missing in these two games, I felt. I of missing in these two games, I felt. I of missing in these two games, I felt. I agree. If you're not doing the Fuse and agree. If you're not doing the Fuse and agree. If you're not doing the Fuse and like building these giant structures, like building these giant structures, like building these giant structures, every battle pretty much feels the same every battle pretty much feels the same every battle pretty much feels the same in Tears of the Kingdom. Like, there in Tears of the Kingdom. Like, there in Tears of the Kingdom. Like, there really is not a huge amount of variety, really is not a huge amount of variety, really is not a huge amount of variety, whether it's a Bokoblin or a giant whether it's a Bokoblin or a giant whether it's a Bokoblin or a giant Moblin or a Lynel. Moblin or a Lynel. Moblin or a Lynel. You just parry. You You just do a flurry You just parry. You You just do a flurry You just parry. You You just do a flurry rush. You'll be fine. rush. You'll be fine. rush. You'll be fine. it's always the flurry rushes. I it's always the flurry rushes. I it's always the flurry rushes. I remember but one cool thing, like I'll remember but one cool thing, like I'll remember but one cool thing, like I'll give you guys a cool little fuse give you guys a cool little fuse give you guys a cool little fuse situation that I had. It was twice I had situation that I had. It was twice I had situation that I had. It was twice I had to do this. There was once with a Lynel to do this. There was once with a Lynel to do this. There was once with a Lynel and once with a normal Bokoblin. They're and once with a normal Bokoblin. They're and once with a normal Bokoblin. They're wearing stone masks. So, I realized that wearing stone masks. So, I realized that wearing stone masks. So, I realized that I had to like make a really hard shield I had to like make a really hard shield I had to like make a really hard shield and then I parried at the mask and I and then I parried at the mask and I and then I parried at the mask and I eventually broke the mask. So, that was eventually broke the mask. So, that was eventually broke the mask. So, that was really cool. And There's some cool really cool. And There's some cool really cool. And There's some cool interactions. Dude, Tears of the Kingdom interactions. Dude, Tears of the Kingdom interactions. Dude, Tears of the Kingdom and Breath of the Wild are are the king and Breath of the Wild are are the king and Breath of the Wild are are the king of interactions. interactions. Right?

of interactions. interactions. Right? of interactions. interactions. Right? Like you'll interact with so many things Like you'll interact with so many things Like you'll interact with so many things in so many ways that you never thought in so many ways that you never thought in so many ways that you never thought you could. So, that's a definitely a big you could. So, that's a definitely a big you could. So, that's a definitely a big plus, but I don't know that's not really plus, but I don't know that's not really plus, but I don't know that's not really combat-centric, but combat-centric, but combat-centric, but do like what you said, Shane, about the do like what you said, Shane, about the do like what you said, Shane, about the sage abilities because like I I know I sage abilities because like I I know I sage abilities because like I I know I was talking to you a lot while I was was talking to you a lot while I was was talking to you a lot while I was playing the game and I was like I turned playing the game and I was like I turned playing the game and I was like I turned all of them off. The only one I kept on all of them off. The only one I kept on all of them off. The only one I kept on was Tulin because I'm always flying. I'm was Tulin because I'm always flying. I'm was Tulin because I'm always flying. I'm always flying. But then always flying. But then always flying. But then You can take them off? Yeah, you can you You can take them off? Yeah, you can you You can take them off? Yeah, you can you can disable them, actually. can disable them, actually. can disable them, actually. Oh my god. I would have done I would Oh my god. I would have done I would Oh my god. I would have done I would have done that so long Yeah, I actually have done that so long Yeah, I actually have done that so long Yeah, I actually like having them so annoying. I told like having them so annoying. I told like having them so annoying. I told them Sean here. I told them I loved them Sean here. I told them I loved them Sean here. I told them I loved having it all done with me cuz it kind having it all done with me cuz it kind having it all done with me cuz it kind of felt like strategy a little bit. Like of felt like strategy a little bit. Like of felt like strategy a little bit. Like okay, you know what? I can have her here okay, you know what? I can have her here okay, you know what? I can have her here and then you know, I have and then you know, I have and then you know, I have you know, I can use like the ball here you know, I can use like the ball here you know, I can use like the ball here and then electric field here or and then electric field here or and then electric field here or whatever. And I I always try to do that whatever. And I I always try to do that whatever. And I I always try to do that just cuz I'm like I don't want to waste just cuz I'm like I don't want to waste just cuz I'm like I don't want to waste my weapons or whatever. So, I always So, my weapons or whatever. So, I always So, my weapons or whatever. So, I always So, I I love that aspect of it. And I always I I love that aspect of it. And I always I I love that aspect of it. And I always like kind of what I wished Nintendo did like kind of what I wished Nintendo did like kind of what I wished Nintendo did with that actually. If this is still with that actually. If this is still with that actually. If this is still part of the same thing is like I wish part of the same thing is like I wish part of the same thing is like I wish they made it a wheel instead. Like you they made it a wheel instead. Like you they made it a wheel instead. Like you can I can just like Like okay, I don't can I can just like Like okay, I don't can I can just like Like okay, I don't want to say this is not a good want to say this is not a good want to say this is not a good comparison, but you know how in FF 16, comparison, but you know how in FF 16, comparison, but you know how in FF 16, you know, you would like hold the RT and you know, you would like hold the RT and you know, you would like hold the RT and then you choose the ability, right? Kind then you choose the ability, right? Kind then you choose the ability, right? Kind of wish it was there's something like of wish it was there's something like of wish it was there's something like that. So, I'm like oh man, this adds that. So, I'm like oh man, this adds that. So, I'm like oh man, this adds depth to where like depth to where like depth to where like I have to like use these like sages to I have to like use these like sages to I have to like use these like sages to my advantage, but you know, I guess my advantage, but you know, I guess my advantage, but you know, I guess maybe they didn't want that. So, that's maybe they didn't want that. So, that's maybe they didn't want that. So, that's why they, you know, didn't give you a why they, you know, didn't give you a why they, you know, didn't give you a wheel. Also, it doesn't work all the wheel. Also, it doesn't work all the wheel. Also, it doesn't work all the time just because sometimes they just time just because sometimes they just time just because sometimes they just run away from me. Yeah, it's weird they run away from me. Yeah, it's weird they run away from me. Yeah, it's weird they have to run away have to run away have to run away and then press A. It's a little tedious.

and then press A. It's a little tedious. and then press A. It's a little tedious. Yeah. So, I I the it was just like I was Yeah. So, I I the it was just like I was Yeah. So, I I the it was just like I was telling to Sean that I thought it was telling to Sean that I thought it was telling to Sean that I thought it was really surprising that Nintendo has like really surprising that Nintendo has like really surprising that Nintendo has like these characters, but they don't like these characters, but they don't like these characters, but they don't like just run away from you. Like you can't just run away from you. Like you can't just run away from you. Like you can't just like always just use them whenever just like always just use them whenever just like always just use them whenever you want to cuz I'm like that actually you want to cuz I'm like that actually you want to cuz I'm like that actually adds a lot of depth there that could adds a lot of depth there that could adds a lot of depth there that could have, you know, been expanded on. But um have, you know, been expanded on. But um have, you know, been expanded on. But um you were talking about fuse, right? So, you were talking about fuse, right? So, you were talking about fuse, right? So, like for me, fuse for the base weapons, like for me, fuse for the base weapons, like for me, fuse for the base weapons, like I really liked it in the beginning like I really liked it in the beginning like I really liked it in the beginning of the game cuz I thought it was like of the game cuz I thought it was like of the game cuz I thought it was like oh, instead of having a stick rock and I oh, instead of having a stick rock and I oh, instead of having a stick rock and I always I thought it was really good um always I thought it was really good um always I thought it was really good um at the beginning. Of course, I'm not at the beginning. Of course, I'm not at the beginning. Of course, I'm not saying it just like degrades itself saying it just like degrades itself saying it just like degrades itself later on, but for me like eventually got later on, but for me like eventually got later on, but for me like eventually got to a point where I was like okay, I open to a point where I was like okay, I open to a point where I was like okay, I open this chest, I got this, I have this this chest, I got this, I have this this chest, I got this, I have this really good sword, combine it and it really good sword, combine it and it really good sword, combine it and it kind of turned into like kind of turned into like kind of turned into like almost like Breath of the Wild for me almost like Breath of the Wild for me almost like Breath of the Wild for me where I'm like oh okay, I have this ice where I'm like oh okay, I have this ice where I'm like oh okay, I have this ice thing and then I can stun them with that thing and then I can stun them with that thing and then I can stun them with that more. I can stun them with this more. I can stun them with this more. I can stun them with this lightning or whatever, you know. lightning or whatever, you know. lightning or whatever, you know. I feel like I Yeah, I didn't find as I feel like I Yeah, I didn't find as I feel like I Yeah, I didn't find as many cool fuse combos later on into the many cool fuse combos later on into the many cool fuse combos later on into the game. game. game. Yeah. Yeah. But I think what Tears of Yeah. Yeah. But I think what Tears of Yeah. Yeah. But I think what Tears of the Kingdom did really well was with the the Kingdom did really well was with the the Kingdom did really well was with the fusing with your bow and arrow. I fusing with your bow and arrow. I fusing with your bow and arrow. I absolutely love that. That completely absolutely love that. That completely absolutely love that. That completely changed how I actually like encounter changed how I actually like encounter changed how I actually like encounter you know, encounter certain enemies or you know, encounter certain enemies or you know, encounter certain enemies or like engage them, whether it be with a like engage them, whether it be with a like engage them, whether it be with a bomb or electrocute them or whatever.

bomb or electrocute them or whatever. bomb or electrocute them or whatever. And sometimes it was fun too when I And sometimes it was fun too when I And sometimes it was fun too when I actually used the bomb, you know, within actually used the bomb, you know, within actually used the bomb, you know, within the lava area and just it exploded. the lava area and just it exploded. the lava area and just it exploded. Apparently. I don't know if you guys Apparently. I don't know if you guys Apparently. I don't know if you guys fought the Gleeoks, but elemental fought the Gleeoks, but elemental fought the Gleeoks, but elemental fusions of your arrows are very fusions of your arrows are very fusions of your arrows are very important when fighting Gleeoks. And important when fighting Gleeoks. And important when fighting Gleeoks. And it's always fun to do that. Have you it's always fun to do that. Have you it's always fun to do that. Have you guys fought the Gleeoks in Tears of the guys fought the Gleeoks in Tears of the guys fought the Gleeoks in Tears of the Kingdom? Kingdom? Kingdom? I have fought them. Yeah. You did not I have fought them. Yeah. You did not I have fought them. Yeah. You did not ask if I have defeated them. Yes, I did ask if I have defeated them. Yes, I did ask if I have defeated them. Yes, I did not ask if you have. But that is not ask if you have. But that is not ask if you have. But that is a nice transition into something I a nice transition into something I a nice transition into something I wanted to talk about next and that is wanted to talk about next and that is wanted to talk about next and that is the bosses because I think the three of the bosses because I think the three of the bosses because I think the three of us can us can us can hands down right now agree hands down right now agree hands down right now agree that Elden Ring has the better bosses. that Elden Ring has the better bosses. that Elden Ring has the better bosses. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But I I think that'll give us some time But I I think that'll give us some time But I I think that'll give us some time to talk about Elden Ring more now to talk about Elden Ring more now to talk about Elden Ring more now because I love the Gleeoks. I love the because I love the Gleeoks. I love the because I love the Gleeoks. I love the Gleeoks. They're fun. They're hard. They Gleeoks. They're fun. They're hard. They Gleeoks. They're fun. They're hard. They felt like FromSoftware bosses. I love felt like FromSoftware bosses. I love felt like FromSoftware bosses. I love the final boss of the game. I think it the final boss of the game. I think it the final boss of the game. I think it is probably one of my favorite final is probably one of my favorite final is probably one of my favorite final bosses or even boss fights in any video bosses or even boss fights in any video bosses or even boss fights in any video game. game. game. But But But FromSoftware is the king of boss battles FromSoftware is the king of boss battles FromSoftware is the king of boss battles and bosses in general. Like no game and bosses in general. Like no game and bosses in general. Like no game studio has ever designed such unique and studio has ever designed such unique and studio has ever designed such unique and difficult bosses because of course, difficult bosses because of course, difficult bosses because of course, everyone knows like the whole meme is everyone knows like the whole meme is everyone knows like the whole meme is Elden Ring from Dark Souls, it's Elden Ring from Dark Souls, it's Elden Ring from Dark Souls, it's difficult, but like difficult, but like difficult, but like like the reward and the rewarding like the reward and the rewarding like the reward and the rewarding feeling of accomplishing feeling of accomplishing feeling of accomplishing beating a boss, it's like no other. So, beating a boss, it's like no other. So, beating a boss, it's like no other. So, like like like how did you guys feel about a lot of the how did you guys feel about a lot of the how did you guys feel about a lot of the Elden Ring bosses cuz there was a lot in

Elden Ring bosses cuz there was a lot in Elden Ring bosses cuz there was a lot in that game. There was a lot of them. that game. There was a lot of them. that game. There was a lot of them. Yeah, I think, you know, in in in all Yeah, I think, you know, in in in all Yeah, I think, you know, in in in all FromSoftware games, not even just Elden FromSoftware games, not even just Elden FromSoftware games, not even just Elden Ring, like one of the greatest parts Ring, like one of the greatest parts Ring, like one of the greatest parts about the boss battle is the spectacle about the boss battle is the spectacle about the boss battle is the spectacle of it. Yeah. Sometimes the build-up, of it. Yeah. Sometimes the build-up, of it. Yeah. Sometimes the build-up, like you hear legends of like you hear legends of like you hear legends of this ancient king who could wield this ancient king who could wield this ancient king who could wield lightning, he destroyed the dragons, you lightning, he destroyed the dragons, you lightning, he destroyed the dragons, you know, and you're like you're building it know, and you're like you're building it know, and you're like you're building it up, building it up and then you enter up, building it up and then you enter up, building it up and then you enter the you know, the kiln of the first the you know, the kiln of the first the you know, the kiln of the first flame in Dark Souls 1 and flame in Dark Souls 1 and flame in Dark Souls 1 and then you get to see then you get to see then you get to see the king and what he's become and the king and what he's become and the king and what he's become and everything. And all the build-up like everything. And all the build-up like everything. And all the build-up like makes a spectacle and the music and the makes a spectacle and the music and the makes a spectacle and the music and the environments, just the atmosphere of all environments, just the atmosphere of all environments, just the atmosphere of all the Souls bosses are just so incredible, the Souls bosses are just so incredible, the Souls bosses are just so incredible, which is something that Tears of the which is something that Tears of the which is something that Tears of the Kingdom Kingdom Kingdom does not quite have. does not quite have. does not quite have. Um Um Um Now, Tears of the Kingdoms, their bosses Now, Tears of the Kingdoms, their bosses Now, Tears of the Kingdoms, their bosses are a bit more puzzle-oriented rather are a bit more puzzle-oriented rather are a bit more puzzle-oriented rather than just pure like one one-v-one than just pure like one one-v-one than just pure like one one-v-one combat. combat. combat. Um but I definitely prefer the Um but I definitely prefer the Um but I definitely prefer the FromSoftware style. FromSoftware style. FromSoftware style. Um as I mentioned earlier, everything is Um as I mentioned earlier, everything is Um as I mentioned earlier, everything is just so precise. Everything hinges on just so precise. Everything hinges on just so precise. Everything hinges on every swing. Um the the multiple phases every swing. Um the the multiple phases every swing. Um the the multiple phases of every boss, I think is a is a big of every boss, I think is a is a big of every boss, I think is a is a big deal. When you get a boss down to half deal. When you get a boss down to half deal. When you get a boss down to half health and then they transform and they health and then they transform and they health and then they transform and they introduce a new mechanic in the middle introduce a new mechanic in the middle introduce a new mechanic in the middle of the fight. Um I think goes a long way of the fight. Um I think goes a long way of the fight. Um I think goes a long way to like stretching that hype cuz you to like stretching that hype cuz you to like stretching that hype cuz you have that you have that initial hype of have that you have that initial hype of have that you have that initial hype of just seeing them and then you finally just seeing them and then you finally just seeing them and then you finally make it halfway after three tries and make it halfway after three tries and make it halfway after three tries and you're like yes, oh my gosh, finally.

you're like yes, oh my gosh, finally. you're like yes, oh my gosh, finally. And I got a a whole new phase and they And I got a a whole new phase and they And I got a a whole new phase and they just wrecks you and you're like oh man, just wrecks you and you're like oh man, just wrecks you and you're like oh man, okay. So, not only do I have to, you okay. So, not only do I have to, you okay. So, not only do I have to, you know, make it through the first half, know, make it through the first half, know, make it through the first half, then they they're going to introduce then they they're going to introduce then they they're going to introduce fire. This guy's going to freaking stick fire. This guy's going to freaking stick fire. This guy's going to freaking stick his arm into a dragon head and it's his arm into a dragon head and it's his arm into a dragon head and it's shit's going to get crazy, you know. And shit's going to get crazy, you know. And shit's going to get crazy, you know. And sometimes the boss's second phase is an sometimes the boss's second phase is an sometimes the boss's second phase is an entirely new health bar. entirely new health bar. entirely new health bar. Malenia does that. Malenia does that. Malenia does that. Godfrey did that. A few other Elden Ring Godfrey did that. A few other Elden Ring Godfrey did that. A few other Elden Ring bosses did that as well. I mean, you bosses did that as well. I mean, you bosses did that as well. I mean, you could get to half health and there's a could get to half health and there's a could get to half health and there's a whole new boss introduced. One of the whole new boss introduced. One of the whole new boss introduced. One of the Yeah, essentially like you have to Yeah, essentially like you have to Yeah, essentially like you have to decide if you're fighting fighting two decide if you're fighting fighting two decide if you're fighting fighting two bosses. It's always keeping you on your bosses. It's always keeping you on your bosses. It's always keeping you on your toes. Like it's it's never like the same toes. Like it's it's never like the same toes. Like it's it's never like the same thing. It's always like hey, surprise thing. It's always like hey, surprise thing. It's always like hey, surprise this or this or this or you know, they throw something new at you know, they throw something new at you know, they throw something new at you and uh you and uh you and uh and and and for not only just the bosses for Elden for not only just the bosses for Elden for not only just the bosses for Elden Ring, but my thing is like why I like Ring, but my thing is like why I like Ring, but my thing is like why I like the combat so much in Elden Ring 2 is the combat so much in Elden Ring 2 is the combat so much in Elden Ring 2 is just the enemy variety itself is just just the enemy variety itself is just just the enemy variety itself is just there's just so many enemies with so there's just so many enemies with so there's just so many enemies with so many different attack patterns and types many different attack patterns and types many different attack patterns and types that like that like that like to me that's like kind of what always to me that's like kind of what always to me that's like kind of what always makes me like get excited for the combat makes me like get excited for the combat makes me like get excited for the combat cuz there's always something new to cuz there's always something new to cuz there's always something new to learn learn learn when it comes to that. Um which you when it comes to that. Um which you when it comes to that. Um which you know, of course, I I mean, I know in know, of course, I I mean, I know in know, of course, I I mean, I know in Tears of the Kingdom there's different Tears of the Kingdom there's different Tears of the Kingdom there's different enemies and of course, they have the enemies and of course, they have the enemies and of course, they have the different colors and they get harder, different colors and they get harder, different colors and they get harder, but to me Elden Ring really like, you but to me Elden Ring really like, you but to me Elden Ring really like, you know, introduced way more variety of know, introduced way more variety of know, introduced way more variety of enemies and just different attack types enemies and just different attack types enemies and just different attack types where it kept me more it kept me way where it kept me more it kept me way where it kept me more it kept me way more engaged with that than you know, more engaged with that than you know, more engaged with that than you know, just the you know, the different Goblins just the you know, the different Goblins just the you know, the different Goblins just turning different colors, you know.

just turning different colors, you know. just turning different colors, you know. Oh, yeah. Yeah, because Oh, yeah. Yeah, because Oh, yeah. Yeah, because that's another thing that that's another thing that that's another thing that brought in the mundanity, I guess you brought in the mundanity, I guess you brought in the mundanity, I guess you can say, with combat in Tears of the can say, with combat in Tears of the can say, with combat in Tears of the Kingdom. Same enemy types, same like Kingdom. Same enemy types, same like Kingdom. Same enemy types, same like pattern. You like see an enemy, you know pattern. You like see an enemy, you know pattern. You like see an enemy, you know what you're going to do. You know how what you're going to do. You know how what you're going to do. You know how you're going to take it down because you you're going to take it down because you you're going to take it down because you it's like the same rodeo all over again it's like the same rodeo all over again it's like the same rodeo all over again with the Bokoblins and the Moblins and with the Bokoblins and the Moblins and with the Bokoblins and the Moblins and the Stalfos and everything. And I will the Stalfos and everything. And I will the Stalfos and everything. And I will say Tears of the Kingdom added new enemy say Tears of the Kingdom added new enemy say Tears of the Kingdom added new enemy types. types. types. I still feel like they could have added I still feel like they could have added I still feel like they could have added more, especially with the wide inventory more, especially with the wide inventory more, especially with the wide inventory of enemies they have in Zelda games. of enemies they have in Zelda games. of enemies they have in Zelda games. Like where are the Darknuts? Where are Like where are the Darknuts? Where are Like where are the Darknuts? Where are the Deku Babas? Where are the Iron the Deku Babas? Where are the Iron the Deku Babas? Where are the Iron Knuckles? Like Knuckles? Like Knuckles? Like uh uh uh Lunatunes, you might remember a whole Lunatunes, you might remember a whole Lunatunes, you might remember a whole bunch of all these Zelda enemies and bunch of all these Zelda enemies and bunch of all these Zelda enemies and they're all missing in open-world Zelda they're all missing in open-world Zelda they're all missing in open-world Zelda and it would be so cool to have had them and it would be so cool to have had them and it would be so cool to have had them in Tears of the Kingdom. Just like how in Tears of the Kingdom. Just like how in Tears of the Kingdom. Just like how Elden Ring had so many different kinds Elden Ring had so many different kinds Elden Ring had so many different kinds of enemies. Like you're you're in one of enemies. Like you're you're in one of enemies. Like you're you're in one area, the enemies are different from area, the enemies are different from area, the enemies are different from another area, which are different from another area, which are different from another area, which are different from another area. So, it keeps Yeah, like another area. So, it keeps Yeah, like another area. So, it keeps Yeah, like Shane said, it keeps you on your toes.

Shane said, it keeps you on your toes. Shane said, it keeps you on your toes. And that can even play into like And that can even play into like And that can even play into like environmental storytelling as well. You environmental storytelling as well. You environmental storytelling as well. You know, like you walk in the Caelid and know, like you walk in the Caelid and know, like you walk in the Caelid and you see these knights fighting these you see these knights fighting these you see these knights fighting these scarlet rot-riddled T-Rex dogs, right? scarlet rot-riddled T-Rex dogs, right? scarlet rot-riddled T-Rex dogs, right? And you know, that kind of plays off And you know, that kind of plays off And you know, that kind of plays off with Malenia and like her lore and her with Malenia and like her lore and her with Malenia and like her lore and her backstory and everything. And it's backstory and everything. And it's backstory and everything. And it's intriguing. Like you see that and you're intriguing. Like you see that and you're intriguing. Like you see that and you're like oh my god. Like I want to go in like oh my god. Like I want to go in like oh my god. Like I want to go in there. I want to fight that. I want to there. I want to fight that. I want to there. I want to fight that. I want to experience that. When you've come across experience that. When you've come across experience that. When you've come across like your 183rd like your 183rd like your 183rd Bokoblin camp, you're like Bokoblin camp, you're like Bokoblin camp, you're like here we go again. All right, like let's here we go again. All right, like let's here we go again. All right, like let's Yeah, it's just the same thing. Yeah, it's just the same thing. Yeah, it's just the same thing. come from Ganondorf. So, there's there's come from Ganondorf. So, there's there's come from Ganondorf. So, there's there's no like no like no like there's not much interesting stuff. I there's not much interesting stuff. I there's not much interesting stuff. I What I do like about the What I do like about the What I do like about the Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom enemies is they with the game Kingdom enemies is they with the game Kingdom enemies is they with the game being a little more stylized, they have being a little more stylized, they have being a little more stylized, they have like unique behavioral patterns and they like unique behavioral patterns and they like unique behavioral patterns and they emote in very different ways. I remember emote in very different ways. I remember emote in very different ways. I remember I was watching the Breath of the Wild I was watching the Breath of the Wild I was watching the Breath of the Wild documentary a while back and they made a documentary a while back and they made a documentary a while back and they made a specific foley noise for a Bokoblin specific foley noise for a Bokoblin specific foley noise for a Bokoblin picking its nose and I thought that was picking its nose and I thought that was picking its nose and I thought that was really funny.

really funny. really funny. How funny? In in that way, like there's How funny? In in that way, like there's How funny? In in that way, like there's some more personality in these enemies, some more personality in these enemies, some more personality in these enemies, but if there was more of them, if I but if there was more of them, if I but if there was more of them, if I didn't feel sick of seeing the same didn't feel sick of seeing the same didn't feel sick of seeing the same thing over and over again, it would have thing over and over again, it would have thing over and over again, it would have been nice. And been nice. And been nice. And like um I do want to talk a little bit like um I do want to talk a little bit like um I do want to talk a little bit about the bosses. I like the bosses in about the bosses. I like the bosses in about the bosses. I like the bosses in Tears of the Kingdom. I actually really Tears of the Kingdom. I actually really Tears of the Kingdom. I actually really enjoyed them enjoyed them enjoyed them were great. I thought I liked all the were great. I thought I liked all the were great. I thought I liked all the bosses. Yeah. bosses. Yeah. bosses. Yeah. It reminded me of traditional 3D Zelda It reminded me of traditional 3D Zelda It reminded me of traditional 3D Zelda bosses in like Twilight Princess, bosses in like Twilight Princess, bosses in like Twilight Princess, Ocarina of Time and all that. Ocarina of Time and all that. Ocarina of Time and all that. And like I I hated the bosses in Breath And like I I hated the bosses in Breath And like I I hated the bosses in Breath of the Wild so much. I hated them of the Wild so much. I hated them of the Wild so much. I hated them because like I remember last year when because like I remember last year when because like I remember last year when the two of us were playing Elden Ring the two of us were playing Elden Ring the two of us were playing Elden Ring like I was telling you Shane cuz you like I was telling you Shane cuz you like I was telling you Shane cuz you also played Breath of the Wild for the also played Breath of the Wild for the also played Breath of the Wild for the first time last year. And I was telling first time last year. And I was telling first time last year. And I was telling you and other people in our friend group you and other people in our friend group you and other people in our friend group I was like this game Elden Ring puts I was like this game Elden Ring puts I was like this game Elden Ring puts Breath of the Wild to shame with its Breath of the Wild to shame with its Breath of the Wild to shame with its bosses. Like bosses. Like bosses. Like even just some of the more simpler even just some of the more simpler even just some of the more simpler bosses like bosses like bosses like I remember I was in like one of the I remember I was in like one of the I remember I was in like one of the tunnels and then I found like the tunnels and then I found like the tunnels and then I found like the Dragonkin Soldier which was like a Dragonkin Soldier which was like a Dragonkin Soldier which was like a optional mini boss and that was an optional mini boss and that was an optional mini boss and that was an over-the-top really fun boss and then over-the-top really fun boss and then over-the-top really fun boss and then That was jaw-dropping when you come That was jaw-dropping when you come That was jaw-dropping when you come across him for the first time. He's like across him for the first time. He's like across him for the first time. He's like sitting in that Was he sitting No, I I sitting in that Was he sitting No, I I sitting in that Was he sitting No, I I found him There was like this giant found him There was like this giant found him There was like this giant skeleton sitting on the throne and then skeleton sitting on the throne and then skeleton sitting on the throne and then the Dragonkin drops down from the the Dragonkin drops down from the the Dragonkin drops down from the ceiling. Yeah.

ceiling. Yeah. ceiling. Yeah. It's the same place. It's the same place. It's the same place. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then like even like the Black Blade And then like even like the Black Blade And then like even like the Black Blade Kindred like the giant gargoyle that Kindred like the giant gargoyle that Kindred like the giant gargoyle that just comes swooping down in just comes swooping down in just comes swooping down in the Eternal City or something. So like the Eternal City or something. So like the Eternal City or something. So like those are like of course Elden Ring does those are like of course Elden Ring does those are like of course Elden Ring does the spectacle well but it also has that the spectacle well but it also has that the spectacle well but it also has that difficulty. And yeah, that's just one difficulty. And yeah, that's just one difficulty. And yeah, that's just one thing I loved about Elden Ring a lot and thing I loved about Elden Ring a lot and thing I loved about Elden Ring a lot and even of course the main bosses Malenia, even of course the main bosses Malenia, even of course the main bosses Malenia, Godfrey, Morgott Godfrey, Morgott Godfrey, Morgott all these bosses were just so much fun. all these bosses were just so much fun. all these bosses were just so much fun. Radahn like what you said about the lore Radahn like what you said about the lore Radahn like what you said about the lore leading up to the boss Radahn does that. leading up to the boss Radahn does that. leading up to the boss Radahn does that. Oh yeah. Radahn Radahn is a perfect Oh yeah. Radahn Radahn is a perfect Oh yeah. Radahn Radahn is a perfect example of that. That's what I was example of that. That's what I was example of that. That's what I was thinking. They've got the tournament and thinking. They've got the tournament and thinking. They've got the tournament and like the guy gives this big speech about like the guy gives this big speech about like the guy gives this big speech about who's going to take him down and yeah, who's going to take him down and yeah, who's going to take him down and yeah, the build-up is incredible. And the build-up is incredible. And the build-up is incredible. And especially like when Radahn when he especially like when Radahn when he especially like when Radahn when he makes he makes like specific noises like makes he makes like specific noises like makes he makes like specific noises like you know, I don't know if you know what you know, I don't know if you know what you know, I don't know if you know what I'm talking about but like it sounds I'm talking about but like it sounds I'm talking about but like it sounds like he's like calling in space or like he's like calling in space or like he's like calling in space or something. It's just so cool. It It something. It's just so cool. It It something. It's just so cool. It It makes you just want to fight him and makes you just want to fight him and makes you just want to fight him and Elden Ring does that really well. Just Elden Ring does that really well. Just Elden Ring does that really well. Just makes you really get pumped up for that.

makes you really get pumped up for that. makes you really get pumped up for that. Yeah. And I I just got to cut one more Yeah. And I I just got to cut one more Yeah. And I I just got to cut one more thing on Radahn. Like when you and all thing on Radahn. Like when you and all thing on Radahn. Like when you and all of like your partners are all running on of like your partners are all running on of like your partners are all running on the beach like up to him like as a the the beach like up to him like as a the the beach like up to him like as a the first time you experience that like you first time you experience that like you first time you experience that like you you know, in Souls games you're always you know, in Souls games you're always you know, in Souls games you're always by yourself and I remember looking to my by yourself and I remember looking to my by yourself and I remember looking to my left, looking to my right and I'm like left, looking to my right and I'm like left, looking to my right and I'm like dude, it's me and the boys and then I dude, it's me and the boys and then I dude, it's me and the boys and then I get just rocketed by an arrow like right get just rocketed by an arrow like right get just rocketed by an arrow like right through the chest. And I'm like okay, my through the chest. And I'm like okay, my through the chest. And I'm like okay, my I love how the battle starts. You get on I love how the battle starts. You get on I love how the battle starts. You get on Torrent and you're going and then boom Torrent and you're going and then boom Torrent and you're going and then boom the arrows just hit you immediately. the arrows just hit you immediately. the arrows just hit you immediately. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's yeah, it's one of the best fights It's yeah, it's one of the best fights It's yeah, it's one of the best fights I've fought in recent memory and I've fought in recent memory and I've fought in recent memory and I don't know if you've beaten Tears of I don't know if you've beaten Tears of I don't know if you've beaten Tears of the Kingdom yet Lunatunes but I will say the Kingdom yet Lunatunes but I will say the Kingdom yet Lunatunes but I will say it would be it would be it would be awesome if you experience the final boss awesome if you experience the final boss awesome if you experience the final boss for yourself. I won't tell you why but for yourself. I won't tell you why but for yourself. I won't tell you why but it is probably my favorite final boss of it is probably my favorite final boss of it is probably my favorite final boss of all time. It is genuinely amazing. I'll all time. It is genuinely amazing. I'll all time. It is genuinely amazing. I'll tell you what full full full disclosure. tell you what full full full disclosure. tell you what full full full disclosure. Full disclosure and Full disclosure and Full disclosure and throughout this entire conversation I'm throughout this entire conversation I'm throughout this entire conversation I'm going to be as objective as possible going to be as objective as possible going to be as objective as possible towards both.

towards both. towards both. I really didn't like Tears of the I really didn't like Tears of the I really didn't like Tears of the Kingdom that much Kingdom that much Kingdom that much to the point where I never finished the to the point where I never finished the to the point where I never finished the game and I just watched the end through game and I just watched the end through game and I just watched the end through cutscenes and let's plays. Yeah. Like cutscenes and let's plays. Yeah. Like cutscenes and let's plays. Yeah. Like legit I legit like I didn't want to play legit I legit like I didn't want to play legit I legit like I didn't want to play anymore. I moved on to other games. anymore. I moved on to other games. anymore. I moved on to other games. So I've I've seen the final boss. So I've I've seen the final boss. So I've I've seen the final boss. I'm curious to hear why you I'm curious to hear why you I'm curious to hear why you What made you I I think this is a What made you I I think this is a What made you I I think this is a perfect transition to our next topic perfect transition to our next topic perfect transition to our next topic which I think Dylan will which I think Dylan will which I think Dylan will He'll answer a lot of these questions in He'll answer a lot of these questions in He'll answer a lot of these questions in this topic I'm sure which is about this topic I'm sure which is about this topic I'm sure which is about exploration. Because I remember like the exploration. Because I remember like the exploration. Because I remember like the first week of Tears of the Kingdom we first week of Tears of the Kingdom we first week of Tears of the Kingdom we had a talk with another YouTuber Andres had a talk with another YouTuber Andres had a talk with another YouTuber Andres Restarted and your biggest Restarted and your biggest Restarted and your biggest I wouldn't say complaint was but like I wouldn't say complaint was but like I wouldn't say complaint was but like one of your big downsides was there's a one of your big downsides was there's a one of your big downsides was there's a lot happening in this game at once. So lot happening in this game at once. So lot happening in this game at once. So you want to you want to elaborate on you want to you want to elaborate on you want to you want to elaborate on that how you feel about that later on? that how you feel about that later on? that how you feel about that later on? Yeah. And and right before I get to that Yeah. And and right before I get to that Yeah. And and right before I get to that I do want to make one thing is that the I do want to make one thing is that the I do want to make one thing is that the comparing the exploration between Tears comparing the exploration between Tears comparing the exploration between Tears and Elden Ring and Breath of the Wild is and Elden Ring and Breath of the Wild is and Elden Ring and Breath of the Wild is that Elden Ring did pull a lot from that Elden Ring did pull a lot from that Elden Ring did pull a lot from Breath of the Wild I feel like in its Breath of the Wild I feel like in its Breath of the Wild I feel like in its non-linearity and exploration. We can non-linearity and exploration. We can non-linearity and exploration. We can touch on that more later but what what touch on that more later but what what touch on that more later but what what did um did um did um Yeah, it it persisted throughout the the Yeah, it it persisted throughout the the Yeah, it it persisted throughout the the rest of my play-through is that rest of my play-through is that rest of my play-through is that there's so much side content in Tears of there's so much side content in Tears of there's so much side content in Tears of the Kingdom and I'll explain it this the Kingdom and I'll explain it this the Kingdom and I'll explain it this way. Let's say you go to a restaurant, way. Let's say you go to a restaurant, way. Let's say you go to a restaurant, right? And you order an appetizer.

right? And you order an appetizer. right? And you order an appetizer. Have the appetizer. That was a really Have the appetizer. That was a really Have the appetizer. That was a really good side quest appetizer. That was good side quest appetizer. That was good side quest appetizer. That was really great. All right, but here's my really great. All right, but here's my really great. All right, but here's my main course. Like here's like my big main course. Like here's like my big main course. Like here's like my big main plot dungeon crawl, boss fight. main plot dungeon crawl, boss fight. main plot dungeon crawl, boss fight. That's the That's the entree, right? That's the That's the entree, right? That's the That's the entree, right? That's what That's what you really came That's what That's what you really came That's what That's what you really came here for. here for. here for. Tears of the Kingdom to me felt like I Tears of the Kingdom to me felt like I Tears of the Kingdom to me felt like I was having a meal of like 20 appetizers. was having a meal of like 20 appetizers. was having a meal of like 20 appetizers. It was just like appetizer after It was just like appetizer after It was just like appetizer after appetizer after appetizer and I was like appetizer after appetizer and I was like appetizer after appetizer and I was like I want something big to happen, man. I I want something big to happen, man. I I want something big to happen, man. I want like the big meal right now. But want like the big meal right now. But want like the big meal right now. But every time I tried to go and do a main every time I tried to go and do a main every time I tried to go and do a main quest quest quest Oh, there's a shrine. Well, I'm here. I Oh, there's a shrine. Well, I'm here. I Oh, there's a shrine. Well, I'm here. I should probably do that now. should probably do that now. should probably do that now. Oh, there's a Skyview Tower. Oh, there's a Skyview Tower. Oh, there's a Skyview Tower. I'm here. I ought to do that now. Oh, I'm here. I ought to do that now. Oh, I'm here. I ought to do that now. Oh, now I'm in the sky. Oh, here's some sky now I'm in the sky. Oh, here's some sky now I'm in the sky. Oh, here's some sky islands. I really want to do the main islands. I really want to do the main islands. I really want to do the main quest but quest but quest but I got to explore these sky islands I got to explore these sky islands I got to explore these sky islands first, you know, like I could never get first, you know, like I could never get first, you know, like I could never get to what I wanted to do because all these to what I wanted to do because all these to what I wanted to do because all these side things which a lot of people side things which a lot of people side things which a lot of people probably really loved. Like the shrines probably really loved. Like the shrines probably really loved. Like the shrines were great. The sky The sky islands were were great. The sky The sky islands were were great. The sky The sky islands were awesome. The depths were incredible. But awesome. The depths were incredible. But awesome. The depths were incredible. But at times when I just wanted to like at times when I just wanted to like at times when I just wanted to like really progress the main story or like really progress the main story or like really progress the main story or like do something more substantial, I would do something more substantial, I would do something more substantial, I would spend hours in the game and walk away spend hours in the game and walk away spend hours in the game and walk away with like two new heart containers with like two new heart containers with like two new heart containers and maybe a hat.

and maybe a hat. and maybe a hat. Did I really accomplish all that much Did I really accomplish all that much Did I really accomplish all that much with with my time? Like did it respect with with my time? Like did it respect with with my time? Like did it respect my time? my time? my time? Not so much. Whereas if I spend a couple Not so much. Whereas if I spend a couple Not so much. Whereas if I spend a couple hours in Final Fantasy XVI which I'm hours in Final Fantasy XVI which I'm hours in Final Fantasy XVI which I'm playing right now, you know, I'm killing playing right now, you know, I'm killing playing right now, you know, I'm killing gods every hour, right? Like it feels gods every hour, right? Like it feels gods every hour, right? Like it feels The the pacing is great. The pacing in The the pacing is great. The pacing in The the pacing is great. The pacing in Tears of the Kingdom just killed me. It Tears of the Kingdom just killed me. It Tears of the Kingdom just killed me. It dragged me down constantly. dragged me down constantly. dragged me down constantly. Mad respect for the game. I like I don't Mad respect for the game. I like I don't Mad respect for the game. I like I don't hate the game. I know it's it's good. hate the game. I know it's it's good. hate the game. I know it's it's good. Like it has sold well. I've seen the Like it has sold well. I've seen the Like it has sold well. I've seen the reactions online. People love the game reactions online. People love the game reactions online. People love the game and I can fully like take a step back and I can fully like take a step back and I can fully like take a step back and understand that I'm in the minority and understand that I'm in the minority and understand that I'm in the minority here. here. here. It just wasn't for you. It just wasn't It just wasn't for you. It just wasn't It just wasn't for you. It just wasn't for me. It just wasn't for me. And for me. It just wasn't for me. And for me. It just wasn't for me. And to go off of your restaurant analogy, to go off of your restaurant analogy, to go off of your restaurant analogy, Tears of the Kingdom is like tapas or Tears of the Kingdom is like tapas or Tears of the Kingdom is like tapas or dim sum whereas like Elden Ring is like dim sum whereas like Elden Ring is like dim sum whereas like Elden Ring is like a steak dinner. Oh yeah. a steak dinner. Oh yeah. a steak dinner. Oh yeah. Yeah, exactly. For sure. Yeah, exactly. For sure. Yeah, exactly. For sure. So I'm actually in the opposite camp So I'm actually in the opposite camp So I'm actually in the opposite camp where like I actually really enjoyed where like I actually really enjoyed where like I actually really enjoyed being not really distracted necessarily being not really distracted necessarily being not really distracted necessarily but what I really liked about Tears of but what I really liked about Tears of but what I really liked about Tears of the Kingdom is like I love to I love the Kingdom is like I love to I love the Kingdom is like I love to I love that power fantasy where I'm like oh that power fantasy where I'm like oh that power fantasy where I'm like oh yeah, I'm going to do this like good yeah, I'm going to do this like good yeah, I'm going to do this like good content like substantially good content content like substantially good content content like substantially good content and I want to get powerful from it. And and I want to get powerful from it. And and I want to get powerful from it. And so and even as Sean knows this like I so and even as Sean knows this like I so and even as Sean knows this like I got so addicted to just doing the got so addicted to just doing the got so addicted to just doing the shrines and doing all the side content shrines and doing all the side content shrines and doing all the side content and I'm like and I'm like and I'm like like what 20 hours in I'm like yeah, I like what 20 hours in I'm like yeah, I like what 20 hours in I'm like yeah, I haven't done the first dungeon haven't done the first dungeon haven't done the first dungeon Yeah, and that's that's that bothered Yeah, and that's that's that bothered Yeah, and that's that's that bothered me. I was like man, I'm I'm like 50 me. I was like man, I'm I'm like 50 me. I was like man, I'm I'm like 50 hours in. I've done two dungeons and hours in. I've done two dungeons and hours in. I've done two dungeons and I've got like you know, 10 hearts to I've got like you know, 10 hearts to I've got like you know, 10 hearts to show for it. I'm like I feel like I'm show for it. I'm like I feel like I'm show for it. I'm like I feel like I'm not making progress fast enough.

not making progress fast enough. not making progress fast enough. But it may be because I'm so busy in my But it may be because I'm so busy in my But it may be because I'm so busy in my real life. real life. real life. Oh yeah, true. Full-time job, wife, kid, Oh yeah, true. Full-time job, wife, kid, Oh yeah, true. Full-time job, wife, kid, friends outside of gaming to friends outside of gaming to friends outside of gaming to to look at. You know, I don't have time to look at. You know, I don't have time to look at. You know, I don't have time to put 100 hours into Tears of the to put 100 hours into Tears of the to put 100 hours into Tears of the Kingdom. Kingdom. Kingdom. I wouldn't say a problem but that's just I wouldn't say a problem but that's just I wouldn't say a problem but that's just something that people have noticed with something that people have noticed with something that people have noticed with modern open-air Zelda games or modern open-air Zelda games or modern open-air Zelda games or open-world Zelda games. It's that the open-world Zelda games. It's that the open-world Zelda games. It's that the main story is such a minority of the main story is such a minority of the main story is such a minority of the experience. It's a minor part of the experience. It's a minor part of the experience. It's a minor part of the experience and that's just what it is experience and that's just what it is experience and that's just what it is now and it's it's something I'm also now and it's it's something I'm also now and it's it's something I'm also getting used to because like me and getting used to because like me and getting used to because like me and Dylan were talking about this like Dylan were talking about this like Dylan were talking about this like before the before the before the episode started recording like episode started recording like episode started recording like Zelda games like there is a noticeable Zelda games like there is a noticeable Zelda games like there is a noticeable difference between the Ocarina of Time difference between the Ocarina of Time difference between the Ocarina of Time formula and the Breath of the Wild formula and the Breath of the Wild formula and the Breath of the Wild formula. Whereas the Whereas the Ocarina formula. Whereas the Whereas the Ocarina formula. Whereas the Whereas the Ocarina of Time formula with like Twilight of Time formula with like Twilight of Time formula with like Twilight Princess, Skyward Sword, all that Princess, Skyward Sword, all that Princess, Skyward Sword, all that the story was the main thing whereas now the story was the main thing whereas now the story was the main thing whereas now the exploration and the optional stuff the exploration and the optional stuff the exploration and the optional stuff is the main thing. It's kind of like is the main thing. It's kind of like is the main thing. It's kind of like you're creating your own story. Yeah. you're creating your own story. Yeah. you're creating your own story. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's It's cool. I like it Yeah. Yeah. It's It's cool. I like it Yeah. Yeah. It's It's cool. I like it but I'm still getting used to it because but I'm still getting used to it because but I'm still getting used to it because of how like of how like of how like how much I loved Ocarina, Majora, how much I loved Ocarina, Majora, how much I loved Ocarina, Majora, Twilight Princess, Wind Waker, all that.

Twilight Princess, Wind Waker, all that. Twilight Princess, Wind Waker, all that. So yeah. So yeah. So yeah. I will say the I will say the I will say the things you can do in this game. There is things you can do in this game. There is things you can do in this game. There is never a lack of things to do in the never a lack of things to do in the never a lack of things to do in the game. Even 100 plus hours later I still game. Even 100 plus hours later I still game. Even 100 plus hours later I still have things that I haven't done in the have things that I haven't done in the have things that I haven't done in the game cuz I was talking to some friends game cuz I was talking to some friends game cuz I was talking to some friends earlier and they're like oh, did you do earlier and they're like oh, did you do earlier and they're like oh, did you do this? Did you do this? And I was like oh this? Did you do this? And I was like oh this? Did you do this? And I was like oh damn, I didn't even like I forgot that I damn, I didn't even like I forgot that I damn, I didn't even like I forgot that I could do that. And that's really good could do that. And that's really good could do that. And that's really good but sometimes there were times where I but sometimes there were times where I but sometimes there were times where I did actually feel overwhelmed and that's did actually feel overwhelmed and that's did actually feel overwhelmed and that's when I was like I'm going to do this and when I was like I'm going to do this and when I was like I'm going to do this and this and this today in this play this and this today in this play this and this today in this play session. And session. And session. And I've noticed that I have done that with I've noticed that I have done that with I've noticed that I have done that with normal FromSoftware games as well. Like normal FromSoftware games as well. Like normal FromSoftware games as well. Like when I first played Bloodborne, I was when I first played Bloodborne, I was when I first played Bloodborne, I was like I'm going to go to this area and like I'm going to go to this area and like I'm going to go to this area and get these blood echoes so I can open up get these blood echoes so I can open up get these blood echoes so I can open up this shortcut and then level up. And this shortcut and then level up. And this shortcut and then level up. And once that's done, I think I'm done for once that's done, I think I'm done for once that's done, I think I'm done for the day. And then like the next time the day. And then like the next time the day. And then like the next time I'll like have another goal in my mind. I'll like have another goal in my mind. I'll like have another goal in my mind. And Elden Ring was like the perfect game And Elden Ring was like the perfect game And Elden Ring was like the perfect game to do that. Because I was like I'll do to do that. Because I was like I'll do to do that. Because I was like I'll do this in this area and then once I'm this in this area and then once I'm this in this area and then once I'm done, I'll be done.

done, I'll be done. done, I'll be done. With Tears of the Kingdom I had those With Tears of the Kingdom I had those With Tears of the Kingdom I had those but the but the but the you just see things in the world that you just see things in the world that you just see things in the world that get you incredibly sidetracked and it's get you incredibly sidetracked and it's get you incredibly sidetracked and it's great. It's fun but it's also There was great. It's fun but it's also There was great. It's fun but it's also There was a point in the game where I had so many a point in the game where I had so many a point in the game where I had so many markers that I put on my map that I markers that I put on my map that I markers that I put on my map that I forgot what all of them were. Uh for me forgot what all of them were. Uh for me forgot what all of them were. Uh for me it was uh it was uh it was uh it wasn't really okay. So like I don't it wasn't really okay. So like I don't it wasn't really okay. So like I don't get distracted necessarily as easily. get distracted necessarily as easily. get distracted necessarily as easily. Like if I want to do a main mission then Like if I want to do a main mission then Like if I want to do a main mission then I'll like go do it, right? But what kept I'll like go do it, right? But what kept I'll like go do it, right? But what kept me was like the beginning of for me me was like the beginning of for me me was like the beginning of for me personally like Tears of the Kingdom was personally like Tears of the Kingdom was personally like Tears of the Kingdom was really hard in the beginning. Like I really hard in the beginning. Like I really hard in the beginning. Like I thought I was just getting trashed on thought I was just getting trashed on thought I was just getting trashed on because like well you get like three because like well you get like three because like well you get like three hearts. So for me So for for me I was hearts. So for me So for for me I was hearts. So for me So for for me I was like man, I I I I like if I'm getting like man, I I I I like if I'm getting like man, I I I I like if I'm getting trashed on now like what's going to trashed on now like what's going to trashed on now like what's going to happen if I do a main dungeon and I get happen if I do a main dungeon and I get happen if I do a main dungeon and I get stuck and I have to go back. So that stuck and I have to go back. So that stuck and I have to go back. So that fear really made me like oh no, I need fear really made me like oh no, I need fear really made me like oh no, I need to go grind these shrines. Now I don't to go grind these shrines. Now I don't to go grind these shrines. Now I don't want to call it a grind cuz for me it want to call it a grind cuz for me it want to call it a grind cuz for me it wasn't cuz I generally didn't enjoy the wasn't cuz I generally didn't enjoy the wasn't cuz I generally didn't enjoy the shrines but shrines but shrines but that was kind of one of the things that that was kind of one of the things that that was kind of one of the things that like, you know, pushed me to like, okay, like, you know, pushed me to like, okay, like, you know, pushed me to like, okay, I can't do the main stuff until I do I can't do the main stuff until I do I can't do the main stuff until I do this. And I'm guessing that's what you this. And I'm guessing that's what you this. And I'm guessing that's what you also felt as well, too, right? Where also felt as well, too, right? Where also felt as well, too, right? Where like the game was just like yeah, like like the game was just like yeah, like like the game was just like yeah, like the like the game is like I mean, of the like the game is like I mean, of the like the game is like I mean, of course it gets easier, but course it gets easier, but course it gets easier, but Yeah, but the game like just it just and Yeah, but the game like just it just and Yeah, but the game like just it just and eventually it's fine and it gets easier, eventually it's fine and it gets easier, eventually it's fine and it gets easier, but it's like, man, the beginning of the but it's like, man, the beginning of the but it's like, man, the beginning of the game just really like just kicks you game just really like just kicks you game just really like just kicks you hard and uh hard and uh hard and uh the first like almost 2 weeks of the the first like almost 2 weeks of the the first like almost 2 weeks of the game you're just doing shrines. I was game you're just doing shrines. I was game you're just doing shrines. I was like, "Hey, did you go here? Did you go like, "Hey, did you go here? Did you go like, "Hey, did you go here? Did you go here? Did you do this dungeon? Did you here? Did you do this dungeon? Did you here? Did you do this dungeon? Did you see this character? Did you see this see this character? Did you see this see this character? Did you see this memory?" And you're like, "Oh, no, I'm memory?" And you're like, "Oh, no, I'm memory?" And you're like, "Oh, no, I'm I'm at like 50 shrines now." And I'm

I'm at like 50 shrines now." And I'm I'm at like 50 shrines now." And I'm like Oh, yeah. I like I remember I like Oh, yeah. I like I remember I like Oh, yeah. I like I remember I didn't do like I didn't go through that didn't do like I didn't go through that didn't do like I didn't go through that side quest for that professor to just go side quest for that professor to just go side quest for that professor to just go to the depths for the first time. And I to the depths for the first time. And I to the depths for the first time. And I was already like 50 shrines in cuz I was was already like 50 shrines in cuz I was was already like 50 shrines in cuz I was like cuz my thing is I really I really like cuz my thing is I really I really like cuz my thing is I really I really wanted to become powerful so that way I wanted to become powerful so that way I wanted to become powerful so that way I can really just enjoy the combat and can really just enjoy the combat and can really just enjoy the combat and gauge it more. But like I just felt like gauge it more. But like I just felt like gauge it more. But like I just felt like in the beginning I was just getting in the beginning I was just getting in the beginning I was just getting trashed on. Plus I was just so I plus I trashed on. Plus I was just so I plus I trashed on. Plus I was just so I plus I felt like, you know, Link is just a lot felt like, you know, Link is just a lot felt like, you know, Link is just a lot slower compared to a lot of enemies. So slower compared to a lot of enemies. So slower compared to a lot of enemies. So I was just I was like, "No, I need to I was just I was like, "No, I need to I was just I was like, "No, I need to power myself up and then I'm going to go power myself up and then I'm going to go power myself up and then I'm going to go to these depths and then do everything." to these depths and then do everything." to these depths and then do everything." And Yeah. You know, I can I can see that And Yeah. You know, I can I can see that And Yeah. You know, I can I can see that as being like pretty annoying for as being like pretty annoying for as being like pretty annoying for someone who like, you know, wants really someone who like, you know, wants really someone who like, you know, wants really just engage the main story more than just engage the main story more than just engage the main story more than just do all the side content. And you just do all the side content. And you just do all the side content. And you know, that could hinder it. And I've know, that could hinder it. And I've know, that could hinder it. And I've seen that in a lot of like Reddit posts, seen that in a lot of like Reddit posts, seen that in a lot of like Reddit posts, too. People saying like, "Man, I didn't too. People saying like, "Man, I didn't too. People saying like, "Man, I didn't Tears of the Kingdom is just too Tears of the Kingdom is just too Tears of the Kingdom is just too hard at the beginning to where like I hard at the beginning to where like I hard at the beginning to where like I don't want to play because if I want to don't want to play because if I want to don't want to play because if I want to play the main content, I'm not confident play the main content, I'm not confident play the main content, I'm not confident enough about that." So I can see that as enough about that." So I can see that as enough about that." So I can see that as being a a major being a a major being a a major problem. But that might be more for like problem. But that might be more for like problem. But that might be more for like combat than exploration, though. combat than exploration, though. combat than exploration, though. Yeah. Uh Yeah. Uh Yeah. Uh as as far as yeah, on the exploration as as far as yeah, on the exploration as as far as yeah, on the exploration with Elden Ring versus Tears of the with Elden Ring versus Tears of the with Elden Ring versus Tears of the Kingdom Kingdom Kingdom to go back to my Caelid example to go back to my Caelid example to go back to my Caelid example you're walking through Caelid, you see you're walking through Caelid, you see you're walking through Caelid, you see these knights fighting these T-Rex dogs, these knights fighting these T-Rex dogs, these knights fighting these T-Rex dogs, and you're like, "Holy crap, I want to and you're like, "Holy crap, I want to and you're like, "Holy crap, I want to go over there and check that out." When go over there and check that out." When go over there and check that out." When I'm in Tears of the Kingdom and I see I'm in Tears of the Kingdom and I see I'm in Tears of the Kingdom and I see another shrine another shrine another shrine there's no interest. There's no like there's no interest. There's no like there's no interest. There's no like intrigue. Like, "Ooh, I wonder what this intrigue. Like, "Ooh, I wonder what this intrigue. Like, "Ooh, I wonder what this shrine is." Cuz it it's going to be a shrine is." Cuz it it's going to be a shrine is." Cuz it it's going to be a puzzle that requires you to build puzzle that requires you to build puzzle that requires you to build something, you know, and that's cool.

something, you know, and that's cool. something, you know, and that's cool. But there there it lacked that like But there there it lacked that like But there there it lacked that like almost narrative like intrigue to me, almost narrative like intrigue to me, almost narrative like intrigue to me, that mystery. Like, "Oh, man, like what that mystery. Like, "Oh, man, like what that mystery. Like, "Oh, man, like what is that?" Oh, it's a shrine. Yeah, it's is that?" Oh, it's a shrine. Yeah, it's is that?" Oh, it's a shrine. Yeah, it's it's got the green the green tornado it's got the green the green tornado it's got the green the green tornado cup. Yeah, it's a shrine. Okay. Yeah, so cup. Yeah, it's a shrine. Okay. Yeah, so cup. Yeah, it's a shrine. Okay. Yeah, so it almost felt like I was checking it almost felt like I was checking it almost felt like I was checking boxes. boxes. boxes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Shrines, chasms Skyview Tower check. In Shrines, chasms Skyview Tower check. In Shrines, chasms Skyview Tower check. In Elden Ring I was like, "Oh my What's Elden Ring I was like, "Oh my What's Elden Ring I was like, "Oh my What's over there? What's over here? I'm going over there? What's over here? I'm going over there? What's over here? I'm going to go I want to see it all." You know, to go I want to see it all." You know, to go I want to see it all." You know, that's what And And it that leads me to that's what And And it that leads me to that's what And And it that leads me to my next thing is the lack of UI in Elden my next thing is the lack of UI in Elden my next thing is the lack of UI in Elden Ring. The lack of telling telling you Ring. The lack of telling telling you Ring. The lack of telling telling you where to go. There's no objective where to go. There's no objective where to go. There's no objective points. There's no waypoints or anything points. There's no waypoints or anything points. There's no waypoints or anything like that. Like any discovery you find, like that. Like any discovery you find, like that. Like any discovery you find, you discovered it because you were you discovered it because you were you discovered it because you were it similarly because all the map markers it similarly because all the map markers it similarly because all the map markers you put them there yourself. So that was you put them there yourself. So that was you put them there yourself. So that was one thing I liked that it doesn't do one thing I liked that it doesn't do one thing I liked that it doesn't do like the Ubisoft or Horizon thing where like the Ubisoft or Horizon thing where like the Ubisoft or Horizon thing where it's like, "Oh, you have to go here and it's like, "Oh, you have to go here and it's like, "Oh, you have to go here and this is the place you find this." Or this is the place you find this." Or this is the place you find this." Or "You have to go here for this side quest "You have to go here for this side quest "You have to go here for this side quest cuz this is where you'll find it." Cuz cuz this is where you'll find it." Cuz cuz this is where you'll find it." Cuz um um um it like sometimes the side quest give it like sometimes the side quest give it like sometimes the side quest give you clues like, "Oh, maybe you should go you clues like, "Oh, maybe you should go you clues like, "Oh, maybe you should go over here at this waterfall in this like over here at this waterfall in this like over here at this waterfall in this like scenic place." And you have to kind of scenic place." And you have to kind of scenic place." And you have to kind of find it yourself. So I liked that, but I find it yourself. So I liked that, but I find it yourself. So I liked that, but I do agree with your UI thing. Though do agree with your UI thing. Though do agree with your UI thing. Though there is a pro HUD mode, I feel like there is a pro HUD mode, I feel like there is a pro HUD mode, I feel like some UI elements and HUD elements could some UI elements and HUD elements could some UI elements and HUD elements could be like eliminated entirely.

be like eliminated entirely. be like eliminated entirely. Yeah. Yeah. I think Elden Ring just did Yeah. Yeah. I think Elden Ring just did Yeah. Yeah. I think Elden Ring just did it in a smarter way, like, you know, it in a smarter way, like, you know, it in a smarter way, like, you know, where the where the where the you know, what is it? The I'm going to you know, what is it? The I'm going to you know, what is it? The I'm going to call it bonfires, but you know, they uh call it bonfires, but you know, they uh call it bonfires, but you know, they uh Sites of Grace. Yeah, Sites of Grace. Sites of Grace. Yeah, Sites of Grace. Sites of Grace. Yeah, Sites of Grace. Yeah, they direct you exactly like, Yeah, they direct you exactly like, Yeah, they direct you exactly like, "Hey, you know, you should go here." And "Hey, you know, you should go here." And "Hey, you know, you should go here." And you know, just um they kind of more just you know, just um they kind of more just you know, just um they kind of more just integrated with more of like the game integrated with more of like the game integrated with more of like the game itself. But yeah, you're I I agree with itself. But yeah, you're I I agree with itself. But yeah, you're I I agree with that. Like it just it did make it that. Like it just it did make it that. Like it just it did make it exploration more fun in Elden Ring exploration more fun in Elden Ring exploration more fun in Elden Ring somewhat because it's like there's somewhat because it's like there's somewhat because it's like there's nothing. So you're just kind of like, nothing. So you're just kind of like, nothing. So you're just kind of like, "You know what? I'm just going to go off "You know what? I'm just going to go off "You know what? I'm just going to go off wherever looks cool." And you never feel wherever looks cool." And you never feel wherever looks cool." And you never feel overwhelmed, too, either. I guess that's overwhelmed, too, either. I guess that's overwhelmed, too, either. I guess that's also a fair point. treasure chest and also a fair point. treasure chest and also a fair point. treasure chest and you get teleported to Oh, yeah. halfway you get teleported to Oh, yeah. halfway you get teleported to Oh, yeah. halfway across the map and you're like, "What is across the map and you're like, "What is across the map and you're like, "What is going on?" going on?" going on?" when that happened the first time. when that happened the first time. when that happened the first time. I was like, "I'm not supposed to be I was like, "I'm not supposed to be I was like, "I'm not supposed to be here. I need to get back." Yeah. And here. I need to get back." Yeah. And here. I need to get back." Yeah. And what made it even cooler is you weren't what made it even cooler is you weren't what made it even cooler is you weren't allowed to fast travel back, I think. allowed to fast travel back, I think. allowed to fast travel back, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. transported you to Caelid and you have transported you to Caelid and you have transported you to Caelid and you have to get to a Site of Grace and only then to get to a Site of Grace and only then to get to a Site of Grace and only then you can fast travel back. you can fast travel back. you can fast travel back. I'm trying to think, could you fast I'm trying to think, could you fast I'm trying to think, could you fast travel back or was there just not travel back or was there just not travel back or was there just not incentive to because you wanted to find incentive to because you wanted to find incentive to because you wanted to find a Site of Grace before you travel back?

a Site of Grace before you travel back? a Site of Grace before you travel back? I feel like I would have fast traveled I feel like I would have fast traveled I feel like I would have fast traveled back immediately cuz I was getting back immediately cuz I was getting back immediately cuz I was getting one-shotted by all the one-shotted by all the one-shotted by all the Yeah. I think you're I think you're Yeah. I think you're I think you're Yeah. I think you're I think you're right, actually. I think you are right. right, actually. I think you are right. right, actually. I think you are right. Yeah, yeah. It respawns you at that same Yeah, yeah. It respawns you at that same Yeah, yeah. It respawns you at that same spot. spot. spot. Yeah. So what Elden Ring does really Yeah. So what Elden Ring does really Yeah. So what Elden Ring does really good with exploration is good with exploration is good with exploration is that that that there's always like you you're riding on there's always like you you're riding on there's always like you you're riding on Torrent every like minute or every like Torrent every like minute or every like Torrent every like minute or every like even sometimes 30 seconds there is even sometimes 30 seconds there is even sometimes 30 seconds there is something there for you to encounter, something there for you to encounter, something there for you to encounter, something there for you to do, something something there for you to do, something something there for you to do, something there for you to fight. Sometimes there for you to fight. Sometimes there for you to fight. Sometimes a giant enemy will uh fly in somewhere. a giant enemy will uh fly in somewhere. a giant enemy will uh fly in somewhere. Sometimes you might find a cave. Sometimes you might find a cave. Sometimes you might find a cave. Sometimes you might find like some new Sometimes you might find like some new Sometimes you might find like some new area or something. Something will always area or something. Something will always area or something. Something will always be happening. And that's what I really be happening. And that's what I really be happening. And that's what I really enjoyed about it. And enjoyed about it. And enjoyed about it. And I think Limgrave was like a really good I think Limgrave was like a really good I think Limgrave was like a really good starting area cuz like uh even if though starting area cuz like uh even if though starting area cuz like uh even if though Breath of the Wild had its Great Plateau Breath of the Wild had its Great Plateau Breath of the Wild had its Great Plateau tutorial, Tears of the Kingdom had its tutorial, Tears of the Kingdom had its tutorial, Tears of the Kingdom had its Great Sky Island tutorial. Great Sky Island tutorial. Great Sky Island tutorial. Limgrave like even like Elden Ring's Limgrave like even like Elden Ring's Limgrave like even like Elden Ring's tutorial majority of the people who tutorial majority of the people who tutorial majority of the people who played the game I feel like missed out played the game I feel like missed out played the game I feel like missed out on the actual tutorial.

on the actual tutorial. on the actual tutorial. I skipped it. I walked right past it. I skipped it. I walked right past it. I skipped it. I walked right past it. Oh, my god. Oh, my god. Oh, my god. And then once you get into Limgrave, And then once you get into Limgrave, And then once you get into Limgrave, you're just going all over the place and you're just going all over the place and you're just going all over the place and figuring things out yourself. And figuring things out yourself. And figuring things out yourself. And because there's so much variety of because there's so much variety of because there's so much variety of enemies, so much variety of like enemies, so much variety of like enemies, so much variety of like landscapes and terrain and all that, landscapes and terrain and all that, landscapes and terrain and all that, it's just fun to it's just fun to it's just fun to figure things out as you go along. I figure things out as you go along. I figure things out as you go along. I will say for Tears of the Kingdom, I will say for Tears of the Kingdom, I will say for Tears of the Kingdom, I want to get your guys' opinion on this. want to get your guys' opinion on this. want to get your guys' opinion on this. I think the highlight of the game for me I think the highlight of the game for me I think the highlight of the game for me the greatest thing about Tears of the the greatest thing about Tears of the the greatest thing about Tears of the Kingdom that I've seen no other video Kingdom that I've seen no other video Kingdom that I've seen no other video game ever do is the verticality and the game ever do is the verticality and the game ever do is the verticality and the layers. Because you start off in the layers. Because you start off in the layers. Because you start off in the sky. You start the game off in the sky. sky. You start the game off in the sky. sky. You start the game off in the sky. I've actually no, technically you start I've actually no, technically you start I've actually no, technically you start the game in the depths, but then you get the game in the depths, but then you get the game in the depths, but then you get up into the sky, you go into the up into the sky, you go into the up into the sky, you go into the surface, you go into the depths, and you surface, you go into the depths, and you surface, you go into the depths, and you go back up into the surface in the sky, go back up into the surface in the sky, go back up into the surface in the sky, and you're going all over the place. and you're going all over the place. and you're going all over the place. And I And I And I talked to a lot of people who said they talked to a lot of people who said they talked to a lot of people who said they saved the depths for the end game. saved the depths for the end game. saved the depths for the end game. Whereas me, I was crazy and the first Whereas me, I was crazy and the first Whereas me, I was crazy and the first weekend of the game I was down in the weekend of the game I was down in the weekend of the game I was down in the depths doing all the stuff getting my uh depths doing all the stuff getting my uh depths doing all the stuff getting my uh getting all the gloom inflicted on me.

getting all the gloom inflicted on me. getting all the gloom inflicted on me. My hearts were depleting. It's finding My hearts were depleting. It's finding My hearts were depleting. It's finding all these light roots because what I all these light roots because what I all these light roots because what I loved about the depths was it was a big loved about the depths was it was a big loved about the depths was it was a big kind of like surprise. Everyone was kind of like surprise. Everyone was kind of like surprise. Everyone was like, "Oh, it's reusing the same Hyrule. like, "Oh, it's reusing the same Hyrule. like, "Oh, it's reusing the same Hyrule. Just having the sky isn't going to be a Just having the sky isn't going to be a Just having the sky isn't going to be a legitimate sequel." And I always thought legitimate sequel." And I always thought legitimate sequel." And I always thought there is going to be an underground. I there is going to be an underground. I there is going to be an underground. I feel like there will be an underground. feel like there will be an underground. feel like there will be an underground. I want to see what it's like. I want to I want to see what it's like. I want to I want to see what it's like. I want to see how it compares to things like see how it compares to things like see how it compares to things like Siofra River Siofra River Siofra River uh in Elden Ring, Nokron, the Eternal uh in Elden Ring, Nokron, the Eternal uh in Elden Ring, Nokron, the Eternal City, and all that. And maybe in some City, and all that. And maybe in some City, and all that. And maybe in some ways Elden Ring did it better, but there ways Elden Ring did it better, but there ways Elden Ring did it better, but there is an entire Hyrule in the underground, is an entire Hyrule in the underground, is an entire Hyrule in the underground, and I love that so much. And of course and I love that so much. And of course and I love that so much. And of course sky and surface as well with a lot of sky and surface as well with a lot of sky and surface as well with a lot of changes. So what do you guys think about changes. So what do you guys think about changes. So what do you guys think about those three levels? those three levels? those three levels? Um yeah, the depths the depths were my Um yeah, the depths the depths were my Um yeah, the depths the depths were my favorite part of the game. That's by favorite part of the game. That's by favorite part of the game. That's by far. I mean, I talked earlier about the far. I mean, I talked earlier about the far. I mean, I talked earlier about the importance of the intrigue and the importance of the intrigue and the importance of the intrigue and the mystery and the discovery. The depths mystery and the discovery. The depths mystery and the discovery. The depths were that for me because you you can't were that for me because you you can't were that for me because you you can't see. You have no idea what's beyond the see. You have no idea what's beyond the see. You have no idea what's beyond the darkness, beyond the abyss. I love that.

darkness, beyond the abyss. I love that. darkness, beyond the abyss. I love that. And I And I And I I loved shooting like my arrows with the I loved shooting like my arrows with the I loved shooting like my arrows with the little light bulbs. little light bulbs. little light bulbs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Making your own little like path through Making your own little like path through Making your own little like path through the darkness was so incredible. And when the darkness was so incredible. And when the darkness was so incredible. And when you finally come up on a rage and you you finally come up on a rage and you you finally come up on a rage and you can see like a light just off in the can see like a light just off in the can see like a light just off in the distance, whether it's a a light root or distance, whether it's a a light root or distance, whether it's a a light root or um one of the uh um one of the uh um one of the uh I forget what they're called. The the I forget what they're called. The the I forget what they're called. The the place where they make all the batteries. place where they make all the batteries. place where they make all the batteries. Oh, the the mines. Oh, the the mines. Oh, the the mines. Yeah, yeah. Where they see like one of Yeah, yeah. Where they see like one of Yeah, yeah. Where they see like one of those mines or something like that. those mines or something like that. those mines or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. a flux construct with red light circling a flux construct with red light circling a flux construct with red light circling around. Oh, yeah. You can just see it's around. Oh, yeah. You can just see it's around. Oh, yeah. You can just see it's just something glimmering off in the just something glimmering off in the just something glimmering off in the distance and you That's when I was like, distance and you That's when I was like, distance and you That's when I was like, "I want to go see what that is." The "I want to go see what that is." The "I want to go see what that is." The depths were so fun. Like some My depths were so fun. Like some My depths were so fun. Like some My favorite parts of the games were anytime favorite parts of the games were anytime favorite parts of the games were anytime I was down in the depths. Um I would be I was down in the depths. Um I would be I was down in the depths. Um I would be curious to see and I think this what curious to see and I think this what curious to see and I think this what happens when you get all the light happens when you get all the light happens when you get all the light roots, don't don't the entire depths roots, don't don't the entire depths roots, don't don't the entire depths illuminate? Well, it doesn't illuminate. illuminate? Well, it doesn't illuminate. illuminate? Well, it doesn't illuminate. There's still darkness in there, but you There's still darkness in there, but you There's still darkness in there, but you can still you can find where you're can still you can find where you're can still you can find where you're going a lot easier. It's easier to find going a lot easier. It's easier to find going a lot easier. It's easier to find much much much I would very much like to see what the I would very much like to see what the I would very much like to see what the depths geographically looks like with no depths geographically looks like with no depths geographically looks like with no darkness and then compare that to the darkness and then compare that to the darkness and then compare that to the underground of Elden Ring. Because Elden underground of Elden Ring. Because Elden underground of Elden Ring. Because Elden Ring's underground has that style. I Ring's underground has that style. I Ring's underground has that style. I mean, you talked about uh Siofra River mean, you talked about uh Siofra River mean, you talked about uh Siofra River or Nokron, the Eternal City. You go down or Nokron, the Eternal City. You go down or Nokron, the Eternal City. You go down there and like the stars are incredible.

there and like the stars are incredible. there and like the stars are incredible. Like the architecture, the structures Like the architecture, the structures Like the architecture, the structures that you see in the distance are like that you see in the distance are like that you see in the distance are like jaw-dropping. Um whereas the depths, I jaw-dropping. Um whereas the depths, I jaw-dropping. Um whereas the depths, I mean, it's just a bunch of rocks mean, it's just a bunch of rocks mean, it's just a bunch of rocks um um um with some like mushrooms and stuff like with some like mushrooms and stuff like with some like mushrooms and stuff like that. It's very cool to to see. Um but I that. It's very cool to to see. Um but I that. It's very cool to to see. Um but I would be I'd be curious stylistically to would be I'd be curious stylistically to would be I'd be curious stylistically to see what it looks like with no darkness see what it looks like with no darkness see what it looks like with no darkness and then compare it to Elden Ring. and then compare it to Elden Ring. and then compare it to Elden Ring. I liked that there was just a lot of I liked that there was just a lot of I liked that there was just a lot of gloom around. So sometimes if you fall gloom around. So sometimes if you fall gloom around. So sometimes if you fall somewhere, you're screwed. You might somewhere, you're screwed. You might somewhere, you're screwed. You might lose a bunch of hearts. Or there's like lose a bunch of hearts. Or there's like lose a bunch of hearts. Or there's like a entire gloom puddle. So sometimes you a entire gloom puddle. So sometimes you a entire gloom puddle. So sometimes you might have to fly, make a machine to fly might have to fly, make a machine to fly might have to fly, make a machine to fly over it, or do something to get across. over it, or do something to get across. over it, or do something to get across. So So So Shane, what did you think about the Shane, what did you think about the Shane, what did you think about the verticality and verticality and verticality and the layers of Tears of the Kingdom? I the layers of Tears of the Kingdom? I the layers of Tears of the Kingdom? I mean, I absolutely like loved it. Well, mean, I absolutely like loved it. Well, mean, I absolutely like loved it. Well, it's just an aspect that like each layer it's just an aspect that like each layer it's just an aspect that like each layer to just to get to one of them is a to just to get to one of them is a to just to get to one of them is a puzzle in itself. Or there's just so puzzle in itself. Or there's just so puzzle in itself. Or there's just so many different ways just to like explore many different ways just to like explore many different ways just to like explore them to me was just a lot of fun. Which them to me was just a lot of fun. Which them to me was just a lot of fun. Which is like kind of what led me to enjoy the is like kind of what led me to enjoy the is like kind of what led me to enjoy the explore-ability more of like explore-ability more of like explore-ability more of like um Tears of the Kingdom because there's um Tears of the Kingdom because there's um Tears of the Kingdom because there's like just like just like just just way more creative than just having, just way more creative than just having, just way more creative than just having, you know, Torrent, right? It's like, am you know, Torrent, right? It's like, am you know, Torrent, right? It's like, am I going to fly to the island? Am I going I going to fly to the island? Am I going I going to fly to the island? Am I going to go from, you know, this like tower or to go from, you know, this like tower or to go from, you know, this like tower or traverse it through like the water with traverse it through like the water with traverse it through like the water with that specific armor set or whatever, that specific armor set or whatever, that specific armor set or whatever, right? And the same thing for the right? And the same thing for the right? And the same thing for the depths, too. And I think what really depths, too. And I think what really depths, too. And I think what really enhanced it to me, which was the like um enhanced it to me, which was the like um enhanced it to me, which was the like um specific times when they kind of specific times when they kind of specific times when they kind of combined all three to of them together combined all three to of them together combined all three to of them together like with those like mazes.

like with those like mazes. like with those like mazes. depths. Yeah. I love the I don't know if depths. Yeah. I love the I don't know if depths. Yeah. I love the I don't know if you've done the labyrinths, but like you've done the labyrinths, but like you've done the labyrinths, but like they just the way they connect all three they just the way they connect all three they just the way they connect all three of them together. of them together. of them together. yeah. yeah. yeah. It's it makes it, in my opinion, the It's it makes it, in my opinion, the It's it makes it, in my opinion, the most like it's like, in my opinion, it's most like it's like, in my opinion, it's most like it's like, in my opinion, it's the best content that Tears of the the best content that Tears of the the best content that Tears of the Kingdom has. I I just I just love that. Kingdom has. I I just I just love that. Kingdom has. I I just I just love that. like once we were on Discord just like once we were on Discord just like once we were on Discord just chatting and you were like, "Dude, you chatting and you were like, "Dude, you chatting and you were like, "Dude, you need to do the labyrinths. It's the best need to do the labyrinths. It's the best need to do the labyrinths. It's the best thing I've done in the game." And I was thing I've done in the game." And I was thing I've done in the game." And I was like, "Really?" Cuz I I remember the like, "Really?" Cuz I I remember the like, "Really?" Cuz I I remember the labyrinths in Breath of the Wild. I was labyrinths in Breath of the Wild. I was labyrinths in Breath of the Wild. I was like, "I just went through the like, "I just went through the like, "I just went through the labyrinth, I found a shrine, and that labyrinth, I found a shrine, and that labyrinth, I found a shrine, and that was it." So, like, what does Tears of was it." So, like, what does Tears of was it." So, like, what does Tears of the Kingdom do differently? Like, I know the Kingdom do differently? Like, I know the Kingdom do differently? Like, I know some of them are in the sky now, but I some of them are in the sky now, but I some of them are in the sky now, but I was like, "What's so different?" And was like, "What's so different?" And was like, "What's so different?" And it's really cool. Like, you do the it's really cool. Like, you do the it's really cool. Like, you do the labyrinth in the surface, then they tell labyrinth in the surface, then they tell labyrinth in the surface, then they tell you go up into the sky. You have to fly you go up into the sky. You have to fly you go up into the sky. You have to fly all the way over there to figure out a all the way over there to figure out a all the way over there to figure out a way to get over there with a flying way to get over there with a flying way to get over there with a flying machine or whatever. machine or whatever. machine or whatever. You do the uh maze in the sky, you do You do the uh maze in the sky, you do You do the uh maze in the sky, you do the labyrinth in the sky, and then from the labyrinth in the sky, and then from the labyrinth in the sky, and then from there you there you there you skydive all the way down into the depths skydive all the way down into the depths skydive all the way down into the depths and do a little bit of a maze there, and do a little bit of a maze there, and do a little bit of a maze there, fight a boss, and then it's done. But, I fight a boss, and then it's done. But, I fight a boss, and then it's done. But, I One thing I didn't like about those is One thing I didn't like about those is One thing I didn't like about those is the bosses were always the same at the the bosses were always the same at the the bosses were always the same at the end. It was just a flux construct. But, end. It was just a flux construct. But, end. It was just a flux construct. But, the fact that like my big wish for this the fact that like my big wish for this the fact that like my big wish for this game was game was game was utilize an area or a dungeon which is utilize an area or a dungeon which is utilize an area or a dungeon which is which uses all three of the layers, which uses all three of the layers, which uses all three of the layers, surface, sky, and depths. And I really surface, sky, and depths. And I really surface, sky, and depths. And I really like that. And I really like that they like that. And I really like that they like that. And I really like that they did that. The first time doing it was did that. The first time doing it was did that. The first time doing it was just such a like there was so many just such a like there was so many just such a like there was so many emotions at once. Like, it just uh oh, emotions at once. Like, it just uh oh, emotions at once. Like, it just uh oh, this is the same thing like in the this is the same thing like in the this is the same thing like in the beginning. I was like, "Oh, wow, I'm in beginning. I was like, "Oh, wow, I'm in beginning. I was like, "Oh, wow, I'm in the sky." And just kind I got that the sky." And just kind I got that the sky." And just kind I got that really good scary feeling when you

really good scary feeling when you really good scary feeling when you finally jump down to the depths. It was finally jump down to the depths. It was finally jump down to the depths. It was just absolutely amazing. So, I I I love just absolutely amazing. So, I I I love just absolutely amazing. So, I I I love those feelings that I got from, you those feelings that I got from, you those feelings that I got from, you know, know, know, the whole entire thing just being the whole entire thing just being the whole entire thing just being connected. Yeah. I will Yeah. connected. Yeah. I will Yeah. connected. Yeah. I will Yeah. No, what were you saying? Continue. No, what were you saying? Continue. No, what were you saying? Continue. No, I'm just saying like overall like I No, I'm just saying like overall like I No, I'm just saying like overall like I agree with like the points you guys made agree with like the points you guys made agree with like the points you guys made is like the depths were like really is like the depths were like really is like the depths were like really cool. I really enjoyed them. I do I cool. I really enjoyed them. I do I cool. I really enjoyed them. I do I actually did find them to be pretty actually did find them to be pretty actually did find them to be pretty creative as well in terms of like them creative as well in terms of like them creative as well in terms of like them being distinct. You know, when you go being distinct. You know, when you go being distinct. You know, when you go closer to like the volcano area of the closer to like the volcano area of the closer to like the volcano area of the map, you know, it's like the lava map, you know, it's like the lava map, you know, it's like the lava everywhere. There's different like, you everywhere. There's different like, you everywhere. There's different like, you know, things you have to be careful with know, things you have to be careful with know, things you have to be careful with versus like, you know, if you drop from versus like, you know, if you drop from versus like, you know, if you drop from a hole from somewhere else. Um You know, a hole from somewhere else. Um You know, a hole from somewhere else. Um You know, what's cool is uh wherever there's a hot what's cool is uh wherever there's a hot what's cool is uh wherever there's a hot spring on the surface, underneath in the spring on the surface, underneath in the spring on the surface, underneath in the depths there is lava underneath those depths there is lava underneath those depths there is lava underneath those hot springs. hot springs. hot springs. Oh, interesting. Yeah, that's good Oh, interesting. Yeah, that's good Oh, interesting. Yeah, that's good attention to detail. Actually, my my attention to detail. Actually, my my attention to detail. Actually, my my favorite thing actually was how the favorite thing actually was how the favorite thing actually was how the light roots are connected to the light roots are connected to the light roots are connected to the shrines. Because if you weren't using if shrines. Because if you weren't using if shrines. Because if you weren't using if you if you don't want to use a guide, you if you don't want to use a guide, you if you don't want to use a guide, the fact that you can use the shrines the fact that you can use the shrines the fact that you can use the shrines help you find the light roots and the help you find the light roots and the help you find the light roots and the light roots help you find the shrines light roots help you find the shrines light roots help you find the shrines was so cool. And just going between them was so cool. And just going between them was so cool. And just going between them like just kind of helped like, you know, like just kind of helped like, you know, like just kind of helped like, you know, just kind of figuring where everything just kind of figuring where everything just kind of figuring where everything was and I thought that was a really was and I thought that was a really was and I thought that was a really great design choice. Yeah.

great design choice. Yeah. great design choice. Yeah. Yeah. It was always it always benefited Yeah. It was always it always benefited Yeah. It was always it always benefited you going either hunt shrine hunting or you going either hunt shrine hunting or you going either hunt shrine hunting or like going light like going light like going light root hunting. Yeah, cuz root hunting. Yeah, cuz root hunting. Yeah, cuz once I completed all the shrines and I once I completed all the shrines and I once I completed all the shrines and I was finding all the light roots, I think was finding all the light roots, I think was finding all the light roots, I think no, I think I found all the light roots no, I think I found all the light roots no, I think I found all the light roots first because I found all the surface first because I found all the surface first because I found all the surface shrines and I needed to find the sky shrines and I needed to find the sky shrines and I needed to find the sky shrines. But, one like what helped me shrines. But, one like what helped me shrines. But, one like what helped me get all the light roots was like, "Oh, get all the light roots was like, "Oh, get all the light roots was like, "Oh, is this shrine corresponding to this is this shrine corresponding to this is this shrine corresponding to this light root? Is this shrine corresponding light root? Is this shrine corresponding light root? Is this shrine corresponding to this one?" And for a while I was just to this one?" And for a while I was just to this one?" And for a while I was just flipping up and down on the D-pad back flipping up and down on the D-pad back flipping up and down on the D-pad back and forth just to see like, "Where is and forth just to see like, "Where is and forth just to see like, "Where is that one small difference?" And when I that one small difference?" And when I that one small difference?" And when I would find it, I would just pinpoint it would find it, I would just pinpoint it would find it, I would just pinpoint it and I'll be like, "That's where I need and I'll be like, "That's where I need and I'll be like, "That's where I need to go." to go." to go." Cool. Um as far as the I didn't really Cool. Um as far as the I didn't really Cool. Um as far as the I didn't really talk about the sky islands themselves. talk about the sky islands themselves. talk about the sky islands themselves. Um I did think they were fun. And the Um I did think they were fun. And the Um I did think they were fun. And the kind of the fear factor did increase a kind of the fear factor did increase a kind of the fear factor did increase a little bit because there were a couple little bit because there were a couple little bit because there were a couple of puzzles that required you to like of puzzles that required you to like of puzzles that required you to like cross gaps. Um and you know, if you cross gaps. Um and you know, if you cross gaps. Um and you know, if you fall, like you're screwed. You know, you fall, like you're screwed. You know, you fall, like you're screwed. You know, you have to find your way all the way back have to find your way all the way back have to find your way all the way back up again. Um you know, I there was like up again. Um you know, I there was like up again. Um you know, I there was like one where I had to get one of like the one where I had to get one of like the one where I had to get one of like the green stones and take it over to the green stones and take it over to the green stones and take it over to the shrine. Oh, yeah.

shrine. Oh, yeah. shrine. Oh, yeah. And I like I fused it to a log, then I And I like I fused it to a log, then I And I like I fused it to a log, then I used Ultrahand to push the log across a used Ultrahand to push the log across a used Ultrahand to push the log across a gap, pull it back, and then I jumped on gap, pull it back, and then I jumped on gap, pull it back, and then I jumped on the log and used recall to, you know, to the log and used recall to, you know, to the log and used recall to, you know, to to trace it or whatever, but the log to trace it or whatever, but the log to trace it or whatever, but the log like rolled as I was like crossing the like rolled as I was like crossing the like rolled as I was like crossing the gap, so I had to like like really gap, so I had to like like really gap, so I had to like like really carefully teeter Link, you know, over carefully teeter Link, you know, over carefully teeter Link, you know, over the log, and it scared the out of the log, and it scared the out of the log, and it scared the out of me. But, uh me. But, uh me. But, uh but I made it and I got it over on the but I made it and I got it over on the but I made it and I got it over on the side and I was like, "Ooh." Actually got side and I was like, "Ooh." Actually got side and I was like, "Ooh." Actually got my blood pumping a little bit because if my blood pumping a little bit because if my blood pumping a little bit because if you fall, like there's massive you fall, like there's massive you fall, like there's massive consequences. Um consequences. Um consequences. Um Overall, I was surprised the sky islands Overall, I was surprised the sky islands Overall, I was surprised the sky islands were um were um were um kind of limited just like shrines and kind of limited just like shrines and kind of limited just like shrines and puzzles. puzzles. puzzles. I was expecting I was expecting I was expecting a little bit like more open areas and a little bit like more open areas and a little bit like more open areas and like more places to explore and like more places to explore and like more places to explore and discover. They're more like pieces of a discover. They're more like pieces of a discover. They're more like pieces of a bunch of like, you know, smaller sky bunch of like, you know, smaller sky bunch of like, you know, smaller sky islands. With the marketing made me islands. With the marketing made me islands. With the marketing made me think like, "Oh, there's a whole 'nother think like, "Oh, there's a whole 'nother think like, "Oh, there's a whole 'nother world up there." Pretty much I thought world up there." Pretty much I thought world up there." Pretty much I thought the sky islands were going to be what the sky islands were going to be what the sky islands were going to be what the depths were. You know what I'm the depths were. You know what I'm the depths were. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Um saying? Yeah. Um saying? Yeah. Um And I think when you take into account And I think when you take into account And I think when you take into account all three services, it does all come all three services, it does all come all three services, it does all come together to be like together to be like together to be like an insane amount of content. I'm not an insane amount of content. I'm not an insane amount of content. I'm not complaining at all. Um but I was just I complaining at all. Um but I was just I complaining at all. Um but I was just I was surprised a little bit as what the was surprised a little bit as what the was surprised a little bit as what the sky islands ended up actually being.

sky islands ended up actually being. sky islands ended up actually being. And um uh Lunatunes, you've played And um uh Lunatunes, you've played And um uh Lunatunes, you've played Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword, I Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword, I Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword, I am assuming, right? So, you know what a am assuming, right? So, you know what a am assuming, right? So, you know what a city in the sky is like. You know what city in the sky is like. You know what city in the sky is like. You know what Skyloft is like. And when I saw the Skyloft is like. And when I saw the Skyloft is like. And when I saw the Great Sky Island, I was like, this Great Sky Island, I was like, this Great Sky Island, I was like, this like I hope to see something like this. like I hope to see something like this. like I hope to see something like this. I hope to see something like Skyloft or I hope to see something like Skyloft or I hope to see something like Skyloft or City in the Sky. And I didn't get that City in the Sky. And I didn't get that City in the Sky. And I didn't get that and I was a little upset. I was a little and I was a little upset. I was a little and I was a little upset. I was a little bummed out by that, but bummed out by that, but bummed out by that, but in the end like the puzzles you do up in the end like the puzzles you do up in the end like the puzzles you do up there are actually pretty cool. Like there are actually pretty cool. Like there are actually pretty cool. Like yeah, they are fun. And um especially yeah, they are fun. And um especially yeah, they are fun. And um especially when you are getting the Zonai set, when you are getting the Zonai set, when you are getting the Zonai set, there are some really cool puzzles to there are some really cool puzzles to there are some really cool puzzles to get the Zonai set or the Zonai armor. get the Zonai set or the Zonai armor. get the Zonai set or the Zonai armor. And those felt like small little mini And those felt like small little mini And those felt like small little mini dungeons and I was like, "Ah, that's dungeons and I was like, "Ah, that's dungeons and I was like, "Ah, that's what I wanted to see in the sky what I wanted to see in the sky what I wanted to see in the sky islands." So, that was pretty cool, but islands." So, that was pretty cool, but islands." So, that was pretty cool, but otherwise, I wouldn't say the sky sky otherwise, I wouldn't say the sky sky otherwise, I wouldn't say the sky sky islands were a disappointment, but islands were a disappointment, but islands were a disappointment, but they're very much, in my opinion, they're very much, in my opinion, they're very much, in my opinion, overshadowed by the surface changes and overshadowed by the surface changes and overshadowed by the surface changes and the the the um the depths. Yeah.

um the depths. Yeah. um the depths. Yeah. I feel like also just the design of the I feel like also just the design of the I feel like also just the design of the shrines, too. I felt like many of them shrines, too. I felt like many of them shrines, too. I felt like many of them were just like, "Hey, bring the crystal were just like, "Hey, bring the crystal were just like, "Hey, bring the crystal over here." over here." over here." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. and that that was most of it, which is and that that was most of it, which is and that that was most of it, which is fine, but like I felt like pretty much fine, but like I felt like pretty much fine, but like I felt like pretty much most of them were that. Um you know, I most of them were that. Um you know, I most of them were that. Um you know, I like the ones that were cool that were like the ones that were cool that were like the ones that were cool that were like, "Hey, you know, you have to drop like, "Hey, you know, you have to drop like, "Hey, you know, you have to drop and then hit all the circles." And and then hit all the circles." And and then hit all the circles." And Yeah, that was fun. I I like the sky Yeah, that was fun. I I like the sky Yeah, that was fun. I I like the sky islands. I wish I wish they had more of islands. I wish I wish they had more of islands. I wish I wish they had more of like those. Not necessarily that you like those. Not necessarily that you like those. Not necessarily that you just fall down, but something like just fall down, but something like just fall down, but something like unique where instead of just like, unique where instead of just like, unique where instead of just like, "Okay, hey, "Okay, hey, "Okay, hey, there's a crystal there, go bring it there's a crystal there, go bring it there's a crystal there, go bring it here, you know." And here, you know." And here, you know." And just make your platform or whatever to just make your platform or whatever to just make your platform or whatever to like bring it over. So, I kind of wish like bring it over. So, I kind of wish like bring it over. So, I kind of wish there was more variety in that. And I'm there was more variety in that. And I'm there was more variety in that. And I'm with you guys, too. I thought they were with you guys, too. I thought they were with you guys, too. I thought they were going to have like huge regions of like going to have like huge regions of like going to have like huge regions of like cuz I was like, "Oh, if it's like cuz I cuz I was like, "Oh, if it's like cuz I cuz I was like, "Oh, if it's like cuz I remember before the game came out, I was remember before the game came out, I was remember before the game came out, I was like, "Oh, is it going to be like like, "Oh, is it going to be like like, "Oh, is it going to be like Skyward Sword where we have like the Skyward Sword where we have like the Skyward Sword where we have like the whole whole whole like these huge islands or whatever and like these huge islands or whatever and like these huge islands or whatever and then, you know, then, you know, then, you know, I will say since uh Shane, you haven't I will say since uh Shane, you haven't I will say since uh Shane, you haven't played Skyward Sword yet, I will say played Skyward Sword yet, I will say played Skyward Sword yet, I will say that um I think uh Lunatunes you will that um I think uh Lunatunes you will that um I think uh Lunatunes you will agree in me saying this that Tears of agree in me saying this that Tears of agree in me saying this that Tears of the Kingdom is what they wanted Skyward the Kingdom is what they wanted Skyward the Kingdom is what they wanted Skyward Sword to be because ooh, Skyward Sword's Sword to be because ooh, Skyward Sword's Sword to be because ooh, Skyward Sword's sky is good and I think No, I will say sky is good and I think No, I will say sky is good and I think No, I will say the only good thing about Skyward the only good thing about Skyward the only good thing about Skyward Sword's sky is the music. I love the Sword's sky is the music. I love the Sword's sky is the music. I love the music when you're flying, but there is music when you're flying, but there is music when you're flying, but there is So, you don't So, you don't like the So, you don't So, you don't like the So, you don't So, you don't like the island So, you guys don't like this like island So, you guys don't like this like island So, you guys don't like this like the whole in the air stuff or the whole in the air stuff or the whole in the air stuff or I I like Skyloft in Skyward Sword a lot.

I I like Skyloft in Skyward Sword a lot. I I like Skyloft in Skyward Sword a lot. Skyloft is one of my favorite areas in Skyloft is one of my favorite areas in Skyloft is one of my favorite areas in like any video game, but exploring the like any video game, but exploring the like any video game, but exploring the sky overworld, there's just not much to sky overworld, there's just not much to sky overworld, there's just not much to do in there at all, unfortunately. But, do in there at all, unfortunately. But, do in there at all, unfortunately. But, that's kind of what they wanted to do that's kind of what they wanted to do that's kind of what they wanted to do with the game, but with the technical with the game, but with the technical with the game, but with the technical limitations of the Wii, they just limitations of the Wii, they just limitations of the Wii, they just couldn't do it. And I was hoping they couldn't do it. And I was hoping they couldn't do it. And I was hoping they would add more stuff to do in the Wii would add more stuff to do in the Wii would add more stuff to do in the Wii ver- in the Switch version, but they ver- in the Switch version, but they ver- in the Switch version, but they didn't, which is whatever. But, Tears of didn't, which is whatever. But, Tears of didn't, which is whatever. But, Tears of the Kingdom has the more the Kingdom has the more the Kingdom has the more um stuff to do in the sky with the um stuff to do in the sky with the um stuff to do in the sky with the islands, the archipelagos, the puzzles, islands, the archipelagos, the puzzles, islands, the archipelagos, the puzzles, and all that. But, and all that. But, and all that. But, one quick thing, bringing this back to one quick thing, bringing this back to one quick thing, bringing this back to Elden Ring. Elden Ring. Elden Ring. Um Elden Ring didn't have a sky island. Um Elden Ring didn't have a sky island. Um Elden Ring didn't have a sky island. It had a very big surface with the Lands It had a very big surface with the Lands It had a very big surface with the Lands Between, and then it had its underground Between, and then it had its underground Between, and then it had its underground area. area. area. Um what how do you compare like Um what how do you compare like Um what how do you compare like Lunatunes talked about talked about this Lunatunes talked about talked about this Lunatunes talked about talked about this a bit, but uh Shane, how would you a bit, but uh Shane, how would you a bit, but uh Shane, how would you compare the depths of Tears of the compare the depths of Tears of the compare the depths of Tears of the Kingdom with the underground of Elden Kingdom with the underground of Elden Kingdom with the underground of Elden Ring? Ring? Ring? That's a good question. Yeah. Well, for That's a good question. Yeah. Well, for That's a good question. Yeah. Well, for me for me like yeah, for me it's me for me like yeah, for me it's me for me like yeah, for me it's different cuz like different cuz like different cuz like the depths for Zelda were just like, you the depths for Zelda were just like, you the depths for Zelda were just like, you know, it's a huge open world just like know, it's a huge open world just like know, it's a huge open world just like the surface exactly and like not the surface exactly and like not the surface exactly and like not exactly, but, you know, you're just exactly, but, you know, you're just exactly, but, you know, you're just exploring it. There's a lot more exploring it. There's a lot more exploring it. There's a lot more unknowns. Whereas to me like the unknowns. Whereas to me like the unknowns. Whereas to me like the underground of Elden Ring were more like underground of Elden Ring were more like underground of Elden Ring were more like kind of like specifically designed kind of like specifically designed kind of like specifically designed levels almost. Like, they kind of almost levels almost. Like, they kind of almost levels almost. Like, they kind of almost had a set path. They it was very had a set path. They it was very had a set path. They it was very curated, you know, for specific content.

curated, you know, for specific content. curated, you know, for specific content. Yeah. And so, to me they're I viewed the Yeah. And so, to me they're I viewed the Yeah. And so, to me they're I viewed the underground parts of Elden Ring more as underground parts of Elden Ring more as underground parts of Elden Ring more as levels, whereas the underground part of levels, whereas the underground part of levels, whereas the underground part of um um um Tears of the Kingdom for me is just a Tears of the Kingdom for me is just a Tears of the Kingdom for me is just a open world. It's a map. open world. It's a map. open world. It's a map. So, to me that's the big distinction. So, to me that's the big distinction. So, to me that's the big distinction. Because like and plus, you know, to me I Because like and plus, you know, to me I Because like and plus, you know, to me I don't go back to the underground parts. don't go back to the underground parts. don't go back to the underground parts. So, like once you beat certain So, like once you beat certain So, like once you beat certain underground sections, you're like, underground sections, you're like, underground sections, you're like, "Okay, I'm done with it. It's good." "Okay, I'm done with it. It's good." "Okay, I'm done with it. It's good." But, you're always constantly coming But, you're always constantly coming But, you're always constantly coming back to, you know, you know, the depths back to, you know, you know, the depths back to, you know, you know, the depths and exploring and there's always so much and exploring and there's always so much and exploring and there's always so much to do there. I'll I'll piggyback off off to do there. I'll I'll piggyback off off to do there. I'll I'll piggyback off off what you just said. Like, Elden Ring, what you just said. Like, Elden Ring, what you just said. Like, Elden Ring, the fact that their underground was so I the fact that their underground was so I the fact that their underground was so I don't want to say so linear, but more don't want to say so linear, but more don't want to say so linear, but more linear, more constrained did did I feel linear, more constrained did did I feel linear, more constrained did did I feel like give them more variety in the like give them more variety in the like give them more variety in the environments Um and not just necessarily environments Um and not just necessarily environments Um and not just necessarily underground but the overworld as well underground but the overworld as well underground but the overworld as well like you've got like you've got like you've got blood swamps blood swamps blood swamps got whatever the heck Calid is you've got whatever the heck Calid is you've got whatever the heck Calid is you've got the Lindell Royal Capital got the Lindell Royal Capital got the Lindell Royal Capital the Nokron Eternal City and of course the Nokron Eternal City and of course the Nokron Eternal City and of course like the snowy peaks obviously Tears of like the snowy peaks obviously Tears of like the snowy peaks obviously Tears of the Kingdom has grassy plains snowy the Kingdom has grassy plains snowy the Kingdom has grassy plains snowy mountains desert mountains desert mountains desert but I think Elden Ring's variety of but I think Elden Ring's variety of but I think Elden Ring's variety of environments and the fact that the environments and the fact that the environments and the fact that the underground was a little bit more linear underground was a little bit more linear underground was a little bit more linear allowed them to get a little bit crazier allowed them to get a little bit crazier allowed them to get a little bit crazier with your like the places you're you're with your like the places you're you're with your like the places you're you're exploring. Even the art direction where exploring. Even the art direction where exploring. Even the art direction where they could be like oh they could be like oh they could be like oh there's one area I didn't explore in there's one area I didn't explore in there's one area I didn't explore in Elden Ring it was the deep root depths Elden Ring it was the deep root depths Elden Ring it was the deep root depths but I saw some people go in there and but I saw some people go in there and but I saw some people go in there and that place just looks messed up and like that place just looks messed up and like that place just looks messed up and like with the art style the look the colors with the art style the look the colors with the art style the look the colors and all that and same with like of and all that and same with like of and all that and same with like of course Calid Nokron all that so

course Calid Nokron all that so course Calid Nokron all that so I think you're right in that way that I think you're right in that way that I think you're right in that way that with the variety and some of the with the variety and some of the with the variety and some of the linearity allowed them to just go crazy linearity allowed them to just go crazy linearity allowed them to just go crazy with the visuals and how things looked. with the visuals and how things looked. with the visuals and how things looked. Because aside from like the one section Because aside from like the one section Because aside from like the one section underneath the volcano the depths are underneath the volcano the depths are underneath the volcano the depths are mostly just like rocks and gloom and mostly just like rocks and gloom and mostly just like rocks and gloom and mushrooms you know like the entire thing mushrooms you know like the entire thing mushrooms you know like the entire thing all right so there's not a lot of all right so there's not a lot of all right so there's not a lot of variety there variety there variety there and then another aspect that we didn't and then another aspect that we didn't and then another aspect that we didn't touch on touch on touch on that I think plays a huge part in that I think plays a huge part in that I think plays a huge part in exploration and the intrigue of wanting exploration and the intrigue of wanting exploration and the intrigue of wanting to explore is the rewards that the game to explore is the rewards that the game to explore is the rewards that the game gives you for doing so. You know you see gives you for doing so. You know you see gives you for doing so. You know you see a cave in Elden Ring like maybe you've a cave in Elden Ring like maybe you've a cave in Elden Ring like maybe you've done 20 caves by now but you don't know done 20 caves by now but you don't know done 20 caves by now but you don't know what boss is going to be at the end and what boss is going to be at the end and what boss is going to be at the end and you don't know what the reward is going you don't know what the reward is going you don't know what the reward is going to be. When you see your 83rd Shrine you to be. When you see your 83rd Shrine you to be. When you see your 83rd Shrine you know it's going to be a little ball of know it's going to be a little ball of know it's going to be a little ball of light that's going to help you get a light that's going to help you get a light that's going to help you get a heart container or a stamina vessel heart container or a stamina vessel heart container or a stamina vessel vessel maybe you buy maybe you find like vessel maybe you buy maybe you find like vessel maybe you buy maybe you find like a cool weapon in there maybe not by the a cool weapon in there maybe not by the a cool weapon in there maybe not by the by the time you're in end game you're by the time you're in end game you're by the time you're in end game you're already you know stacked with like good already you know stacked with like good already you know stacked with like good weapons anyway so it doesn't matter too weapons anyway so it doesn't matter too weapons anyway so it doesn't matter too too much. The depths did have some cool too much. The depths did have some cool too much. The depths did have some cool rewards like the different tunics from rewards like the different tunics from rewards like the different tunics from previous Zelda games I thought like that previous Zelda games I thought like that previous Zelda games I thought like that those were like some of the most fun to those were like some of the most fun to those were like some of the most fun to find find find just like from nostalgia and stuff like just like from nostalgia and stuff like just like from nostalgia and stuff like that and it's cool to see what they look that and it's cool to see what they look that and it's cool to see what they look like in the game like in the game like in the game but I think Elden Ring had the better but I think Elden Ring had the better but I think Elden Ring had the better rewards overall the higher variety even rewards overall the higher variety even rewards overall the higher variety even though sometimes like you're a strength though sometimes like you're a strength though sometimes like you're a strength build and you find a spell you know it build and you find a spell you know it build and you find a spell you know it literally does nothing for you literally does nothing for you literally does nothing for you aside from that I feel like Elden Ring aside from that I feel like Elden Ring aside from that I feel like Elden Ring had better rewards. I I think like one

had better rewards. I I think like one had better rewards. I I think like one thing that Elden Ring did good was I thing that Elden Ring did good was I thing that Elden Ring did good was I think the boss fights themselves were think the boss fights themselves were think the boss fights themselves were great rewards. great rewards. great rewards. Just like For sure. Cuz I might they're Just like For sure. Cuz I might they're Just like For sure. Cuz I might they're just so creative and just so much fun just so creative and just so much fun just so creative and just so much fun that even if you don't get a spell or that even if you don't get a spell or that even if you don't get a spell or whatever that you need to enhance your whatever that you need to enhance your whatever that you need to enhance your build just the fact that you get to build just the fact that you get to build just the fact that you get to experience just like a experience just like a experience just like a really well designed boss and the really well designed boss and the really well designed boss and the dungeons in Elden Ring I could say like dungeons in Elden Ring I could say like dungeons in Elden Ring I could say like had really good bosses as well that had really good bosses as well that had really good bosses as well that alone was just enough to be like yes I alone was just enough to be like yes I alone was just enough to be like yes I want to keep finding more and keep doing want to keep finding more and keep doing want to keep finding more and keep doing this whereas for you know I guess it this whereas for you know I guess it this whereas for you know I guess it depends if you're more into puzzles then depends if you're more into puzzles then depends if you're more into puzzles then I guess you might like the shrines more I guess you might like the shrines more I guess you might like the shrines more just by themselves but I felt like just just by themselves but I felt like just just by themselves but I felt like just the reward of a boss is just so the reward of a boss is just so the reward of a boss is just so significant to me more than just like significant to me more than just like significant to me more than just like you know a ball of light that will just you know a ball of light that will just you know a ball of light that will just give you a heart or whatever especially give you a heart or whatever especially give you a heart or whatever especially later on in Tears of the Kingdom when later on in Tears of the Kingdom when later on in Tears of the Kingdom when you're already so overpowered where you're already so overpowered where you're already so overpowered where you're like okay you're like okay you're like okay I feel like even in Elden Ring even if I feel like even in Elden Ring even if I feel like even in Elden Ring even if you are overpowered you still want to you are overpowered you still want to you are overpowered you still want to fight a boss and that's a reward but fight a boss and that's a reward but fight a boss and that's a reward but like if you were too overpowered in like if you were too overpowered in like if you were too overpowered in Tears of the Kingdom you're kind of like Tears of the Kingdom you're kind of like Tears of the Kingdom you're kind of like okay I do I really need to do this like okay I do I really need to do this like okay I do I really need to do this like I don't need to I don't need anything I don't need to I don't need anything I don't need to I don't need anything so. Now to play devil's advocate to that so. Now to play devil's advocate to that so. Now to play devil's advocate to that is is when you're overpowered in Elden is is when you're overpowered in Elden is is when you're overpowered in Elden Ring and you go back to Limgrave and you Ring and you go back to Limgrave and you Ring and you go back to Limgrave and you go through a dungeon that you forgot to go through a dungeon that you forgot to go through a dungeon that you forgot to hit earlier and you one shot a boss.

hit earlier and you one shot a boss. hit earlier and you one shot a boss. That's one of those build your That's one of those build your That's one of those build your confidence boosters before you know confidence boosters before you know confidence boosters before you know Yeah. You know what that was for me that Yeah. You know what that was for me that Yeah. You know what that was for me that was like one of the herb tree watchdogs was like one of the herb tree watchdogs was like one of the herb tree watchdogs but it was also the soldier of Godrick but it was also the soldier of Godrick but it was also the soldier of Godrick when I actually did the tutorial and I when I actually did the tutorial and I when I actually did the tutorial and I was like oh I completely missed this and was like oh I completely missed this and was like oh I completely missed this and then I see the boss at the end it was a then I see the boss at the end it was a then I see the boss at the end it was a soldier of Godrick with a giant health soldier of Godrick with a giant health soldier of Godrick with a giant health bar and two hits and he was gone bar and two hits and he was gone bar and two hits and he was gone yeah that was that was pretty funny. yeah that was that was pretty funny. yeah that was that was pretty funny. But yeah But yeah But yeah um um um any final things you guys want to say any final things you guys want to say any final things you guys want to say about exploration before we move on to about exploration before we move on to about exploration before we move on to our final point about the story? our final point about the story? our final point about the story? I guess I guess I guess You can go ahead. I guess the the only You can go ahead. I guess the the only You can go ahead. I guess the the only other thing I'd have to say is like I other thing I'd have to say is like I other thing I'd have to say is like I didn't I didn't talk about the glider at didn't I didn't talk about the glider at didn't I didn't talk about the glider at all or like the fact that you can use all or like the fact that you can use all or like the fact that you can use the sky islands to kind of scout the the sky islands to kind of scout the the sky islands to kind of scout the land below to see where you want to go land below to see where you want to go land below to see where you want to go next I think that was a really cool next I think that was a really cool next I think that was a really cool unique aspect that Tears of the Kingdom unique aspect that Tears of the Kingdom unique aspect that Tears of the Kingdom has that obviously Elden Ring does not has that obviously Elden Ring does not has that obviously Elden Ring does not um um um but I guess that's that's the only other but I guess that's that's the only other but I guess that's that's the only other point that I got. Yeah. point that I got. Yeah. point that I got. Yeah. My my big thing with exploration was My my big thing with exploration was My my big thing with exploration was overall is that like Tears of the overall is that like Tears of the overall is that like Tears of the Kingdom has that creativity to Kingdom has that creativity to Kingdom has that creativity to exploration like it's more like Elden exploration like it's more like Elden exploration like it's more like Elden Ring I think mainly is just Torrent Ring I think mainly is just Torrent Ring I think mainly is just Torrent whereas like I feel like in Tears of the whereas like I feel like in Tears of the whereas like I feel like in Tears of the Kingdom it's more than just that it's Kingdom it's more than just that it's Kingdom it's more than just that it's like the builds the horse the everything like the builds the horse the everything like the builds the horse the everything right and there's so many different ways right and there's so many different ways right and there's so many different ways to explore or just to traverse the to explore or just to traverse the to explore or just to traverse the environment which is why I which is you environment which is why I which is you environment which is why I which is you know that's why I like like the know that's why I like like the know that's why I like like the exploration a lot more in Tears of the exploration a lot more in Tears of the exploration a lot more in Tears of the Kingdom. And that's why I was also okay Kingdom. And that's why I was also okay Kingdom. And that's why I was also okay with them sort of reusing a lot of the with them sort of reusing a lot of the with them sort of reusing a lot of the same places because your traversal how same places because your traversal how same places because your traversal how you get to places how you interact with you get to places how you interact with you get to places how you interact with things it was all very different and

things it was all very different and things it was all very different and then we didn't talk much about the then we didn't talk much about the then we didn't talk much about the surface changes but I have talked about surface changes but I have talked about surface changes but I have talked about that in other videos so I won't delve that in other videos so I won't delve that in other videos so I won't delve into that too much but there was a into that too much but there was a into that too much but there was a decent bit and I made sure I'll say this decent bit and I made sure I'll say this decent bit and I made sure I'll say this a lot of people were saying oh I'm going a lot of people were saying oh I'm going a lot of people were saying oh I'm going to be playing Breath of the Wild to get to be playing Breath of the Wild to get to be playing Breath of the Wild to get ready for Tears of the Kingdom to get ready for Tears of the Kingdom to get ready for Tears of the Kingdom to get prepared for Tears of the Kingdom right prepared for Tears of the Kingdom right prepared for Tears of the Kingdom right I made sure to do the complete opposite I made sure to do the complete opposite I made sure to do the complete opposite and and stay away from Breath of the and and stay away from Breath of the and and stay away from Breath of the Wild because I was like I remember a lot Wild because I was like I remember a lot Wild because I was like I remember a lot of the map I remember a lot of the of the map I remember a lot of the of the map I remember a lot of the placements but I want this experience to placements but I want this experience to placements but I want this experience to feel new and fresh and almost like I'm feel new and fresh and almost like I'm feel new and fresh and almost like I'm re re re discovering Hyrule for the first time discovering Hyrule for the first time discovering Hyrule for the first time and that's what it felt like so that's and that's what it felt like so that's and that's what it felt like so that's what that's one thing I really loved what that's one thing I really loved what that's one thing I really loved about the depths or sorry the surface in about the depths or sorry the surface in about the depths or sorry the surface in Tears of the Kingdom that it had changes Tears of the Kingdom that it had changes Tears of the Kingdom that it had changes and it felt different and it was like and it felt different and it was like and it felt different and it was like re-exploring and rediscovering a lot of re-exploring and rediscovering a lot of re-exploring and rediscovering a lot of these things but these things but these things but one thing I do want to end with is the one thing I do want to end with is the one thing I do want to end with is the story. story. story. I have I guess um I have I guess um I have I guess um I I enjoyed the story in Tears of the I I enjoyed the story in Tears of the I I enjoyed the story in Tears of the Kingdom.

Kingdom. Kingdom. In Elden Ring I guess sort of I did a In Elden Ring I guess sort of I did a In Elden Ring I guess sort of I did a bit but bit but bit but this is where I feel like I'll be the this is where I feel like I'll be the this is where I feel like I'll be the most critical so most critical so most critical so I'll start it off with this one but I'll start it off with this one but I'll start it off with this one but my thing with the story in Zelda is that my thing with the story in Zelda is that my thing with the story in Zelda is that it's always like your hero's journey you it's always like your hero's journey you it's always like your hero's journey you start off as like a young boy you don't start off as like a young boy you don't start off as like a young boy you don't know what's happening you're just like know what's happening you're just like know what's happening you're just like in your like small hometown village or in your like small hometown village or in your like small hometown village or whatever and then like things just start whatever and then like things just start whatever and then like things just start happening and you have to like grow up happening and you have to like grow up happening and you have to like grow up fast as like a kid who's like going out fast as like a kid who's like going out fast as like a kid who's like going out to like this new adventure to save his to like this new adventure to save his to like this new adventure to save his sister or his friends or just save the sister or his friends or just save the sister or his friends or just save the world in general depending on what game world in general depending on what game world in general depending on what game it is happening in. it is happening in. it is happening in. In this game like in these two games in In this game like in these two games in In this game like in these two games in Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom Kingdom Kingdom it's just like it it it did almost feel it's just like it it it did almost feel it's just like it it it did almost feel like a Souls game where like this has like a Souls game where like this has like a Souls game where like this has been happening what should we do Link been happening what should we do Link been happening what should we do Link do it for us please and then you like do it for us please and then you like do it for us please and then you like see everything happening in the past.

see everything happening in the past. see everything happening in the past. And that was the thing that like irked And that was the thing that like irked And that was the thing that like irked me the most about Breath of the Wild I me the most about Breath of the Wild I me the most about Breath of the Wild I was like I don't want the story to was like I don't want the story to was like I don't want the story to happen in the past I want things to happen in the past I want things to happen in the past I want things to happen now because in Skyward Sword happen now because in Skyward Sword happen now because in Skyward Sword which is my favorite Zelda story which is my favorite Zelda story which is my favorite Zelda story everything was happening in the present everything was happening in the present everything was happening in the present the things that happened in the past the things that happened in the past the things that happened in the past were just in a painting and then some were just in a painting and then some were just in a painting and then some things were told to you by some other things were told to you by some other things were told to you by some other people and then people and then people and then if some things if some things if some things very minor mild out of context spoilers very minor mild out of context spoilers very minor mild out of context spoilers but if things were happening in the past but if things were happening in the past but if things were happening in the past in that game you do those things in the in that game you do those things in the in that game you do those things in the past so like that's what I wanted from past so like that's what I wanted from past so like that's what I wanted from Tears of the Kingdom the I will say the Tears of the Kingdom the I will say the Tears of the Kingdom the I will say the memories in Tears of the Kingdom were memories in Tears of the Kingdom were memories in Tears of the Kingdom were good they were better they were better good they were better they were better good they were better they were better written better acted better written better acted better written better acted better like scenario and the cutscenes were like scenario and the cutscenes were like scenario and the cutscenes were just better. just better. just better. But again it was happening in the past But again it was happening in the past But again it was happening in the past things did happen in the present a lot things did happen in the present a lot things did happen in the present a lot more story things happened in the more story things happened in the more story things happened in the present but I I the next Zelda game just present but I I the next Zelda game just present but I I the next Zelda game just needs to have a more engaging story it needs to have a more engaging story it needs to have a more engaging story it needs to be like Skyward Sword it I hope needs to be like Skyward Sword it I hope needs to be like Skyward Sword it I hope it's like something like that Skyward it's like something like that Skyward it's like something like that Skyward Sword Wind Waker Twilight Princess which Sword Wind Waker Twilight Princess which Sword Wind Waker Twilight Princess which keeps me engaged.

keeps me engaged. keeps me engaged. As for Elden Ring story As for Elden Ring story As for Elden Ring story I will say I will say I will say all I have to say about that is I got to all I have to say about that is I got to all I have to say about that is I got to the end of the game 100 hours in or the end of the game 100 hours in or the end of the game 100 hours in or whatever whatever whatever I watched the Vaati Vidya videos twice I watched the Vaati Vidya videos twice I watched the Vaati Vidya videos twice and I'm still confused and I'm still confused and I'm still confused but that's just me that's just me. Even but that's just me that's just me. Even but that's just me that's just me. Even even the even the pro Elden Ring players even the even the pro Elden Ring players even the even the pro Elden Ring players don't entirely know what was going on don't entirely know what was going on don't entirely know what was going on and I think that was on purpose I I and I think that was on purpose I I and I think that was on purpose I I think FromSoftware left it mysterious think FromSoftware left it mysterious think FromSoftware left it mysterious and open-ended and open-ended and open-ended intentionally. Um but it's it is funny intentionally. Um but it's it is funny intentionally. Um but it's it is funny comparing these two stories because comparing these two stories because comparing these two stories because they're both told in such very different they're both told in such very different they're both told in such very different and unique ways even compared to like and unique ways even compared to like and unique ways even compared to like your standard AAA releases your standard AAA releases your standard AAA releases FromSoftware has always done this where FromSoftware has always done this where FromSoftware has always done this where they tie a lot of their lore and their they tie a lot of their lore and their they tie a lot of their lore and their stories to their item descriptions and stories to their item descriptions and stories to their item descriptions and environmental storytelling and it's environmental storytelling and it's environmental storytelling and it's either up to the player to piece it either up to the player to piece it either up to the player to piece it together or up to the player to watch a together or up to the player to watch a together or up to the player to watch a YouTube video after the fact to figure YouTube video after the fact to figure YouTube video after the fact to figure out what the hell is going on out what the hell is going on out what the hell is going on whereas Tears of the Kingdom they have whereas Tears of the Kingdom they have whereas Tears of the Kingdom they have the non-linear the non-linear the non-linear presentation as you know you're presentation as you know you're presentation as you know you're not only seeing memories but you may be not only seeing memories but you may be not only seeing memories but you may be seeing memories out of order as well.

seeing memories out of order as well. seeing memories out of order as well. I will I will I will I'll say that's one thing I did not I'll say that's one thing I did not I'll say that's one thing I did not like. like. like. Yeah did you get all the memories by the Yeah did you get all the memories by the Yeah did you get all the memories by the way? way? way? I I have seen all the memories. Yes so I I have seen all the memories. Yes so I I have seen all the memories. Yes so um um um maybe the second or third memory I got maybe the second or third memory I got maybe the second or third memory I got in the entire game was Ganondorf killing in the entire game was Ganondorf killing in the entire game was Ganondorf killing Sonia and I was like Sonia and I was like Sonia and I was like what am I supposed to do with this like what am I supposed to do with this like what am I supposed to do with this like I I don't know what leads up to this I I I don't know what leads up to this I I I don't know what leads up to this I don't know why this happened don't know why this happened don't know why this happened and I just like met this character who I and I just like met this character who I and I just like met this character who I was starting to get to know and now I was starting to get to know and now I was starting to get to know and now I just see that she's dead and then the just see that she's dead and then the just see that she's dead and then the memory after that was when she was memory after that was when she was memory after that was when she was talking to Zelda getting to know her talking to Zelda getting to know her talking to Zelda getting to know her getting to hear about Link and all that getting to hear about Link and all that getting to hear about Link and all that and I'm like and I'm like and I'm like this should have been in order. I think this should have been in order. I think this should have been in order. I think it's it's it's the idea that Nintendo it's it's it's the idea that Nintendo it's it's it's the idea that Nintendo wanted you to like get all of this wanted you to like get all of this wanted you to like get all of this information and just piece it together. information and just piece it together. information and just piece it together. Like I guess that's your kind of goal is Like I guess that's your kind of goal is Like I guess that's your kind of goal is like we're Yeah. So. like we're Yeah. So. like we're Yeah. So. Yeah, I didn't have a I did I honestly Yeah, I didn't have a I did I honestly Yeah, I didn't have a I did I honestly did not have a single problem with Tears did not have a single problem with Tears did not have a single problem with Tears of the Kingdom story and even like the of the Kingdom story and even like the of the Kingdom story and even like the the content that's taking place in the the content that's taking place in the the content that's taking place in the past. I honestly thought this was one of past. I honestly thought this was one of past. I honestly thought this was one of the best Legend of Zelda stories the best Legend of Zelda stories the best Legend of Zelda stories of all time.

of all time. of all time. Narrative wise it was very good. I just Narrative wise it was very good. I just Narrative wise it was very good. I just think how it was presented was a little think how it was presented was a little think how it was presented was a little weird, you know? Yeah, I think the only weird, you know? Yeah, I think the only weird, you know? Yeah, I think the only thing is if they had just presented all thing is if they had just presented all thing is if they had just presented all of the memories in order it would have of the memories in order it would have of the memories in order it would have been better. I think finding the been better. I think finding the been better. I think finding the memories out of order memories out of order memories out of order took impact away from some things. took impact away from some things. took impact away from some things. Like you I I was a little bit deeper in Like you I I was a little bit deeper in Like you I I was a little bit deeper in when I saw that Sonya died. But when she when I saw that Sonya died. But when she when I saw that Sonya died. But when she did die I still had quite a few memories did die I still had quite a few memories did die I still had quite a few memories to find at that time. And to find at that time. And to find at that time. And I I did I did walk away from that memory I I did I did walk away from that memory I I did I did walk away from that memory like this would have had a lot more like this would have had a lot more like this would have had a lot more impact if I had seen what led up to it. impact if I had seen what led up to it. impact if I had seen what led up to it. You know like if I had if you had given You know like if I had if you had given You know like if I had if you had given me more time to know Sonya, this death me more time to know Sonya, this death me more time to know Sonya, this death would have like hurt me. But instead now would have like hurt me. But instead now would have like hurt me. But instead now I'm now I feel like any memory I see I'm now I feel like any memory I see I'm now I feel like any memory I see that takes place prior to this I'm kind that takes place prior to this I'm kind that takes place prior to this I'm kind of like I already know what's going to of like I already know what's going to of like I already know what's going to happen here, you know? Yeah, so it does happen here, you know? Yeah, so it does happen here, you know? Yeah, so it does kind of take some of that away. So. kind of take some of that away. So. kind of take some of that away. So. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, I do want to ask you And yeah, I do want to ask you And yeah, I do want to ask you specifically Luna Tunes. specifically Luna Tunes. specifically Luna Tunes. How do you think storytelling like this How do you think storytelling like this How do you think storytelling like this Breath of the Wild Tears of the Kingdom Breath of the Wild Tears of the Kingdom Breath of the Wild Tears of the Kingdom compares to Ocarina of Time, Wind Waker, compares to Ocarina of Time, Wind Waker, compares to Ocarina of Time, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, those kinds of games?

Twilight Princess, those kinds of games? Twilight Princess, those kinds of games? I I do still I I think the linear style I I do still I I think the linear style I I do still I I think the linear style of storytelling is the better way to go of storytelling is the better way to go of storytelling is the better way to go just because the developers can curate just because the developers can curate just because the developers can curate it it it more more accurately. They they know more more accurately. They they know more more accurately. They they know what the player is going to experience, what the player is going to experience, what the player is going to experience, when they're going to experience it and when they're going to experience it and when they're going to experience it and therefore they can prepare for that. therefore they can prepare for that. therefore they can prepare for that. They can They can They can apply build up, apply time after the apply build up, apply time after the apply build up, apply time after the fact for the player to kind of like sit fact for the player to kind of like sit fact for the player to kind of like sit back in their chair like oh my god what back in their chair like oh my god what back in their chair like oh my god what did I just experience, you know? did I just experience, you know? did I just experience, you know? It's all curated. It's it's more It's all curated. It's it's more It's all curated. It's it's more organized. organized. organized. Where Tears of the Kingdom Breath of the Where Tears of the Kingdom Breath of the Where Tears of the Kingdom Breath of the Wild they just they literally just Wild they just they literally just Wild they just they literally just cannot do that. It is out of their cannot do that. It is out of their cannot do that. It is out of their control and they I think they did about control and they I think they did about control and they I think they did about as good as they could. Like this was a as good as they could. Like this was a as good as they could. Like this was a very interesting idea. If nothing else I very interesting idea. If nothing else I very interesting idea. If nothing else I thought what Breath of the Wild Tears of thought what Breath of the Wild Tears of thought what Breath of the Wild Tears of the Kingdom did with their stories was the Kingdom did with their stories was the Kingdom did with their stories was very interesting. I don't recall any very interesting. I don't recall any very interesting. I don't recall any other game I've ever played other game I've ever played other game I've ever played that did this. that did this. that did this. Maybe if you have some examples but it Maybe if you have some examples but it Maybe if you have some examples but it was a very unique approach which I was a very unique approach which I was a very unique approach which I deeply respect. But like memories out of order, the like memories out of order, the non-linearity of it all. I I think Elden non-linearity of it all. I I think Elden non-linearity of it all. I I think Elden Ring did a very Ring did a very Ring did a very sort of similar thing because you have sort of similar thing because you have sort of similar thing because you have the item descriptions, you have the the item descriptions, you have the the item descriptions, you have the cryptic messages from the bosses, what cryptic messages from the bosses, what cryptic messages from the bosses, what they say in their dialogue. You have the they say in their dialogue. You have the they say in their dialogue. You have the cryptic messages from what's her name cryptic messages from what's her name cryptic messages from what's her name Melina and some other people.

Melina and some other people. Melina and some other people. And And And yeah, you just kind of piece it all yeah, you just kind of piece it all yeah, you just kind of piece it all together. Yeah, but piecing in Elden together. Yeah, but piecing in Elden together. Yeah, but piecing in Elden Ring was just so much harder than like Ring was just so much harder than like Ring was just so much harder than like Tears of the Kingdom. Cuz that that's Tears of the Kingdom. Cuz that that's Tears of the Kingdom. Cuz that that's the thing with Tears of the Kingdom is the thing with Tears of the Kingdom is the thing with Tears of the Kingdom is like I think at least it had like a good like I think at least it had like a good like I think at least it had like a good surface level is what I'm going to call surface level is what I'm going to call surface level is what I'm going to call it story, right? Like you can understand it story, right? Like you can understand it story, right? Like you can understand it. You know what the characters are and it. You know what the characters are and it. You know what the characters are and stuff. Whereas in like Elden Ring I'm stuff. Whereas in like Elden Ring I'm stuff. Whereas in like Elden Ring I'm like even if like I'm fighting like one like even if like I'm fighting like one like even if like I'm fighting like one of the end game bosses I'm like I've no of the end game bosses I'm like I've no of the end game bosses I'm like I've no idea like who you are and where you came idea like who you are and where you came idea like who you are and where you came from. from. from. And you know I feel like go become Elden And you know I feel like go become Elden And you know I feel like go become Elden Lord. Like I remember the very first Lord. Like I remember the very first Lord. Like I remember the very first cutscene of Elden Ring. The very first cutscene of Elden Ring. The very first cutscene of Elden Ring. The very first cutscene at the beginning of the game cutscene at the beginning of the game cutscene at the beginning of the game they were talking about like some people they were talking about like some people they were talking about like some people like Dung Eater and some other person like Dung Eater and some other person like Dung Eater and some other person and this person and that person. I was and this person and that person. I was and this person and that person. I was like like like what is happening right now? What are what is happening right now? What are what is happening right now? What are they saying? they saying? they saying? And I will say like Shane you played And I will say like Shane you played And I will say like Shane you played Demon's Souls. Have you played Demon's Demon's Souls. Have you played Demon's Demon's Souls. Have you played Demon's Souls Luna Tunes? Yeah, I played a bit Souls Luna Tunes? Yeah, I played a bit Souls Luna Tunes? Yeah, I played a bit of it but of it but of it but this is the funniest thing ever. I this is the funniest thing ever. I this is the funniest thing ever. I remember remember remember like you beat the first boss of Demon's like you beat the first boss of Demon's like you beat the first boss of Demon's Souls and you had to go back to the Souls and you had to go back to the Souls and you had to go back to the Nexus or something, right? That's what Nexus or something, right? That's what Nexus or something, right? That's what it's called? And then you talk to the it's called? And then you talk to the it's called? And then you talk to the like there are these like like there are these like like there are these like stone stone stone babies or something. I forgot what babies or something. I forgot what babies or something. I forgot what they're called like monumental they're called like monumental they're called like monumental something, right? And they give you like something, right? And they give you like something, right? And they give you like this whole story and they kept going on this whole story and they kept going on this whole story and they kept going on for so long. I went to the bathroom, for so long. I went to the bathroom, for so long. I went to the bathroom, came back, they were still talking. I came back, they were still talking. I came back, they were still talking. I was like I don't know what's happening.

was like I don't know what's happening. was like I don't know what's happening. And then they finally finished. I was And then they finally finished. I was And then they finally finished. I was like okay can I go go kill more enemies? like okay can I go go kill more enemies? like okay can I go go kill more enemies? But yeah. But yeah. But yeah. Yeah, now Yeah, now Yeah, now now go ahead. Yeah, I was going to say now go ahead. Yeah, I was going to say now go ahead. Yeah, I was going to say like one really cool thing that Elden like one really cool thing that Elden like one really cool thing that Elden Ring didn't do this but I'm surprised Ring didn't do this but I'm surprised Ring didn't do this but I'm surprised FromSoftware didn't put it in the game FromSoftware didn't put it in the game FromSoftware didn't put it in the game is like if you played Sekiro that is like if you played Sekiro that is like if you played Sekiro that actually had a really good surface level actually had a really good surface level actually had a really good surface level story. And they actually did present story. And they actually did present story. And they actually did present characters and told you everything. But characters and told you everything. But characters and told you everything. But in Elden Ring they kind of like didn't in Elden Ring they kind of like didn't in Elden Ring they kind of like didn't do that which was actually really do that which was actually really do that which was actually really surprising to me. Something I just surprising to me. Something I just surprising to me. Something I just wanted to add on like FromSoftware made wanted to add on like FromSoftware made wanted to add on like FromSoftware made a decision to like not tell anybody a decision to like not tell anybody a decision to like not tell anybody anything. And really just keep it anything. And really just keep it anything. And really just keep it different. Yeah, Sekiro is kind of a different. Yeah, Sekiro is kind of a different. Yeah, Sekiro is kind of a weird like red-headed stepchild of the weird like red-headed stepchild of the weird like red-headed stepchild of the Souls franchise. They changed so much Souls franchise. They changed so much Souls franchise. They changed so much from story to combat, the the lack of from story to combat, the the lack of from story to combat, the the lack of like different builds and stuff. So it like different builds and stuff. So it like different builds and stuff. So it was it is kind of interesting they like was it is kind of interesting they like was it is kind of interesting they like experimented something with Sekiro and experimented something with Sekiro and experimented something with Sekiro and they're like all right like that was they're like all right like that was they're like all right like that was fun. Let's go back to our bread and fun. Let's go back to our bread and fun. Let's go back to our bread and butter. butter. butter. Which you know leads me to my next point Which you know leads me to my next point Which you know leads me to my next point that maybe that maybe that maybe the non-linearity and the mysteriousness the non-linearity and the mysteriousness the non-linearity and the mysteriousness of Elden Ring's story was easier to of Elden Ring's story was easier to of Elden Ring's story was easier to swallow because it's expected from swallow because it's expected from swallow because it's expected from FromSoftware. This is how all of their FromSoftware. This is how all of their FromSoftware. This is how all of their games are. So maybe it's not as jarring games are. So maybe it's not as jarring games are. So maybe it's not as jarring as when Breath of the Wild or Tears of as when Breath of the Wild or Tears of as when Breath of the Wild or Tears of the Kingdom completely changes their the Kingdom completely changes their the Kingdom completely changes their story formula.

story formula. story formula. I for one am like I for one am like I for one am like Souls lore junkie. I will read every Souls lore junkie. I will read every Souls lore junkie. I will read every single item description and try and single item description and try and single item description and try and discern as best as I can like what it discern as best as I can like what it discern as best as I can like what it means. And to me that's part of the fun means. And to me that's part of the fun means. And to me that's part of the fun even when I'm wrong is to kind of like even when I'm wrong is to kind of like even when I'm wrong is to kind of like formulate the story in my own head. And formulate the story in my own head. And formulate the story in my own head. And so when I'm fighting a boss again even so when I'm fighting a boss again even so when I'm fighting a boss again even if I'm wrong I have created a story in if I'm wrong I have created a story in if I'm wrong I have created a story in my head as to who this guy is, what he's my head as to who this guy is, what he's my head as to who this guy is, what he's done based on the best of my abilities done based on the best of my abilities done based on the best of my abilities based off of the items that I have read based off of the items that I have read based off of the items that I have read the descriptions of and whatnot. And the descriptions of and whatnot. And the descriptions of and whatnot. And it's then I'll dive into YouTube it's then I'll dive into YouTube it's then I'll dive into YouTube afterwards and be like okay yeah I was afterwards and be like okay yeah I was afterwards and be like okay yeah I was like way off but that's also a cool like way off but that's also a cool like way off but that's also a cool backstory. You know, so backstory. You know, so backstory. You know, so I'm used to it. I've played all the I'm used to it. I've played all the I'm used to it. I've played all the FromSoftware games so I I knew what to FromSoftware games so I I knew what to FromSoftware games so I I knew what to expect and I really really really expect and I really really really expect and I really really really enjoyed the Elden Ring story despite the enjoyed the Elden Ring story despite the enjoyed the Elden Ring story despite the fact that I don't completely understand fact that I don't completely understand fact that I don't completely understand all of it. all of it. all of it. Tears of the Kingdom story and I mean Tears of the Kingdom story and I mean Tears of the Kingdom story and I mean can we get to like the I mean I guess I can we get to like the I mean I guess I can we get to like the I mean I guess I assume we're okay to get all the way assume we're okay to get all the way assume we're okay to get all the way into the end game story stuff. into the end game story stuff. into the end game story stuff. I thought what they did with Zelda was I thought what they did with Zelda was I thought what they did with Zelda was can I cuss on this podcast? I'm just I'm can I cuss on this podcast? I'm just I'm can I cuss on this podcast? I'm just I'm going to going to going to amazing.

amazing. amazing. I have always felt like Zelda has played I have always felt like Zelda has played I have always felt like Zelda has played that damsel in distress role in every that damsel in distress role in every that damsel in distress role in every Zelda game. This one dude, she just Zelda game. This one dude, she just Zelda game. This one dude, she just takes it by the horns and leads the takes it by the horns and leads the takes it by the horns and leads the charge. Like her decision to turn into charge. Like her decision to turn into charge. Like her decision to turn into the eternal dragon. When you when you the eternal dragon. When you when you the eternal dragon. When you when you see that one memory and I know it you see that one memory and I know it you see that one memory and I know it you you know the one I'm talking about where you know the one I'm talking about where you know the one I'm talking about where it clicks that oh my god that light it clicks that oh my god that light it clicks that oh my god that light dragon is Zelda and the Master Sword is dragon is Zelda and the Master Sword is dragon is Zelda and the Master Sword is up there. up there. up there. Whole my mind exploded. Now I had no Whole my mind exploded. Now I had no Whole my mind exploded. Now I had no idea at that time how she became the idea at that time how she became the idea at that time how she became the dragon dragon dragon until yeah then you see like yeah you until yeah then you see like yeah you until yeah then you see like yeah you swallowed the seed the sacred stone and swallowed the seed the sacred stone and swallowed the seed the sacred stone and you turned into the dragon. I thought you turned into the dragon. I thought you turned into the dragon. I thought that was so cool. Like she gave her life that was so cool. Like she gave her life that was so cool. Like she gave her life she thought she was giving up her life she thought she was giving up her life she thought she was giving up her life to like transport the Master Sword to to like transport the Master Sword to to like transport the Master Sword to Link in the only way that she saw Link in the only way that she saw Link in the only way that she saw possible. And I just oh man that just possible. And I just oh man that just possible. And I just oh man that just hit me hard. hit me hard. hit me hard. While Link still had his meth face like While Link still had his meth face like While Link still had his meth face like thanks Zelda. I'm going to go thanks Zelda. I'm going to go thanks Zelda. I'm going to go going to go fuse a rock to this Master going to go fuse a rock to this Master going to go fuse a rock to this Master Sword. But I will say Sword. But I will say Sword. But I will say many times in Zelda games the Master many times in Zelda games the Master many times in Zelda games the Master Sword when you get the Master Sword it's Sword when you get the Master Sword it's Sword when you get the Master Sword it's a huge deal. Like Ocarina of Time you a huge deal. Like Ocarina of Time you a huge deal. Like Ocarina of Time you get the Master Sword you're transported get the Master Sword you're transported get the Master Sword you're transported into the future 7 years.

into the future 7 years. into the future 7 years. Wind Waker you get the Master Sword Wind Waker you get the Master Sword Wind Waker you get the Master Sword Hyrule like comes back to life. In Hyrule like comes back to life. In Hyrule like comes back to life. In Twilight Princess you like the Master Twilight Princess you like the Master Twilight Princess you like the Master Sword cures you of your wolf curse at Sword cures you of your wolf curse at Sword cures you of your wolf curse at that time. And then so on and so forth. that time. And then so on and so forth. that time. And then so on and so forth. Like Skyward Sword you create the Master Like Skyward Sword you create the Master Like Skyward Sword you create the Master Sword. Breath of the Wild you find it in Sword. Breath of the Wild you find it in Sword. Breath of the Wild you find it in the forest and all that. the forest and all that. the forest and all that. This one this Master Sword retrieval is This one this Master Sword retrieval is This one this Master Sword retrieval is the best in the entire series. The best the best in the entire series. The best the best in the entire series. The best Master Sword retrieval in the series' Master Sword retrieval in the series' Master Sword retrieval in the series' 37-year-long history because it has 37-year-long history because it has 37-year-long history because it has emotion. It is it's more personal, you emotion. It is it's more personal, you emotion. It is it's more personal, you know? It's a little more personal and I know? It's a little more personal and I know? It's a little more personal and I I really like that. And I really like that. And I really like that. And many people I I don't know of how active many people I I don't know of how active many people I I don't know of how active you were with the Zelda videos and you were with the Zelda videos and you were with the Zelda videos and watching a lot of Zelda theories pre watching a lot of Zelda theories pre watching a lot of Zelda theories pre Tears of the Kingdom when it was just Tears of the Kingdom when it was just Tears of the Kingdom when it was just Breath of the Wild 2. Everyone was like Breath of the Wild 2. Everyone was like Breath of the Wild 2. Everyone was like oh playable Zelda, we want Zelda to be oh playable Zelda, we want Zelda to be oh playable Zelda, we want Zelda to be playable, we we want Zelda to do combat playable, we we want Zelda to do combat playable, we we want Zelda to do combat and all that. I thought that would have and all that. I thought that would have and all that. I thought that would have been pretty cool like how Atreus was been pretty cool like how Atreus was been pretty cool like how Atreus was playable in God of War Ragnarok. But playable in God of War Ragnarok. But playable in God of War Ragnarok. But I was my big hope was just don't have I was my big hope was just don't have I was my big hope was just don't have her in the damsel in distress. Don't her in the damsel in distress. Don't her in the damsel in distress. Don't have her set like put away to the side have her set like put away to the side have her set like put away to the side like a afterthought. Like how she kind like a afterthought. Like how she kind like a afterthought. Like how she kind of was in Breath of the Wild.

of was in Breath of the Wild. of was in Breath of the Wild. And And And even in the last trailer we saw like in even in the last trailer we saw like in even in the last trailer we saw like in April before the game came out. I was April before the game came out. I was April before the game came out. I was like oh god they're going to do the like oh god they're going to do the like oh god they're going to do the damsel in distress thing. Like I'm not damsel in distress thing. Like I'm not damsel in distress thing. Like I'm not like down for this. It's going to be so like down for this. It's going to be so like down for this. It's going to be so boring. Like I wanted Zelda to really boring. Like I wanted Zelda to really boring. Like I wanted Zelda to really shine in this game and I was wrong. They shine in this game and I was wrong. They shine in this game and I was wrong. They really did. And she did a really good really did. And she did a really good really did. And she did a really good job and her role in this game is job and her role in this game is job and her role in this game is arguably like arguably like arguably like the most significant out of all the the most significant out of all the the most significant out of all the characters. And I want to say one more characters. And I want to say one more characters. And I want to say one more thing about the story. This Link sucks. thing about the story. This Link sucks. thing about the story. This Link sucks. This Link sucks. Like Shane was talking This Link sucks. Like Shane was talking This Link sucks. Like Shane was talking about it. Like his facial expressions, about it. Like his facial expressions, about it. Like his facial expressions, his reactions, his thing. Like oh his reactions, his thing. Like oh his reactions, his thing. Like oh Zelda's a dragon. He has the same Zelda's a dragon. He has the same Zelda's a dragon. He has the same reaction to all the other memories he reaction to all the other memories he reaction to all the other memories he saw. And I'm like Link come on. I think saw. And I'm like Link come on. I think saw. And I'm like Link come on. I think the only expression he ever has is like the only expression he ever has is like the only expression he ever has is like when he sees the tear drop, you know, when he sees the tear drop, you know, when he sees the tear drop, you know, for the memories. Like for the memories. Like for the memories. Like oh yeah that's it. oh yeah that's it. oh yeah that's it. Yeah, I liked I liked Link in Breath of Yeah, I liked I liked Link in Breath of Yeah, I liked I liked Link in Breath of in Breath of the Wild when you if you go in Breath of the Wild when you if you go in Breath of the Wild when you if you go into Zelda's bedroom chamber you can into Zelda's bedroom chamber you can into Zelda's bedroom chamber you can find her diary. And I think in one of find her diary. And I think in one of find her diary. And I think in one of the entries it talks about how Link is the entries it talks about how Link is the entries it talks about how Link is like he decides to be mute because he like he decides to be mute because he like he decides to be mute because he feels like a hero should, you know, show feels like a hero should, you know, show feels like a hero should, you know, show off his actions.

off his actions. off his actions. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The burden that he Yeah, yeah, yeah. The burden that he Yeah, yeah, yeah. The burden that he carries and he has so much stress put on carries and he has so much stress put on carries and he has so much stress put on him that he's like, "I want to like take him that he's like, "I want to like take him that he's like, "I want to like take this with like a solemn silent vow." And this with like a solemn silent vow." And this with like a solemn silent vow." And like, yeah. I thought that was really like, yeah. I thought that was really like, yeah. I thought that was really cool and it gave me like mad respect for cool and it gave me like mad respect for cool and it gave me like mad respect for this Link. this Link. this Link. But I do agree. I feel like But I do agree. I feel like But I do agree. I feel like in all of the other games he comes from in all of the other games he comes from in all of the other games he comes from such humble beginnings. Like in Twilight such humble beginnings. Like in Twilight such humble beginnings. Like in Twilight Princess, you're a farmer. Princess, you're a farmer. Princess, you're a farmer. In Wind Waker, you're just some kid like In Wind Waker, you're just some kid like In Wind Waker, you're just some kid like living like you're just chilling on a on living like you're just chilling on a on living like you're just chilling on a on a beach coastal town and suddenly a beach coastal town and suddenly a beach coastal town and suddenly something happens and you're like, "All something happens and you're like, "All something happens and you're like, "All right, I got to step up now, you know, right, I got to step up now, you know, right, I got to step up now, you know, to go save my sister." Whatever. to go save my sister." Whatever. to go save my sister." Whatever. In In In Breath of the Wild Tears of the Kingdom, Breath of the Wild Tears of the Kingdom, Breath of the Wild Tears of the Kingdom, I think it is cool that he was already I think it is cool that he was already I think it is cool that he was already an established knight. I think that is a an established knight. I think that is a an established knight. I think that is a cool backstory, but we never got to see cool backstory, but we never got to see cool backstory, but we never got to see any of it. I think it would have been any of it. I think it would have been any of it. I think it would have been like cool to see some some more like cool to see some some more like cool to see some some more training. I think there was one memory training. I think there was one memory training. I think there was one memory in Breath of the Wild where you do see in Breath of the Wild where you do see in Breath of the Wild where you do see him doing some training. him doing some training. him doing some training. Um was Zelda and and the king are Um was Zelda and and the king are Um was Zelda and and the king are watching him or whatever. watching him or whatever. watching him or whatever. And so what about that in Age of And so what about that in Age of And so what about that in Age of Calamity, but Age of the Age of Calamity Calamity, but Age of the Age of Calamity Calamity, but Age of the Age of Calamity is whatever. is whatever. is whatever. Yeah. I don't I don't even count Age. Yeah. I don't I don't even count Age. Yeah. I don't I don't even count Age. Did you guys like the main villain over Did you guys like the main villain over Did you guys like the main villain over like Ganondorf and his like role? I I like Ganondorf and his like role? I I like Ganondorf and his like role? I I haven't played the previous ones. I haven't played the previous ones. I haven't played the previous ones. I really liked him, though I wish he was really liked him, though I wish he was really liked him, though I wish he was more active in the modern time. Like he more active in the modern time. Like he more active in the modern time. Like he just had to screw with Link somehow with just had to screw with Link somehow with just had to screw with Link somehow with either some way, but I really enjoyed either some way, but I really enjoyed either some way, but I really enjoyed his presence and it was really fun his presence and it was really fun his presence and it was really fun leading up to that like final fight with leading up to that like final fight with leading up to that like final fight with him. So do you guys do you guys like how him. So do you guys do you guys like how him. So do you guys do you guys like how he was done overall in this game or do he was done overall in this game or do he was done overall in this game or do you think previous Zelda games they like you think previous Zelda games they like you think previous Zelda games they like he was just more scarier or you were he was just more scarier or you were he was just more scarier or you were more excited or he just had a more of a more excited or he just had a more of a more excited or he just had a more of a presence.

presence. presence. Uh I think Uh I think Uh I think I'm well, it's hard to say because I I'm well, it's hard to say because I I'm well, it's hard to say because I want to say traditional Zelda games he's want to say traditional Zelda games he's want to say traditional Zelda games he's better, but he has multiple occurrences better, but he has multiple occurrences better, but he has multiple occurrences in those traditional Zelda games which in those traditional Zelda games which in those traditional Zelda games which builds his character over time. Like his builds his character over time. Like his builds his character over time. Like his first appearance in Ocarina of Time, first appearance in Ocarina of Time, first appearance in Ocarina of Time, then in Twilight and in Wind Waker. It's then in Twilight and in Wind Waker. It's then in Twilight and in Wind Waker. It's all the same obviously all the same all the same obviously all the same all the same obviously all the same Ganondorf and he change he changes Ganondorf and he change he changes Ganondorf and he change he changes throughout those games and like he talks throughout those games and like he talks throughout those games and like he talks about his beliefs in Wind Waker. He was about his beliefs in Wind Waker. He was about his beliefs in Wind Waker. He was like, "Back in the day I was just a a like, "Back in the day I was just a a like, "Back in the day I was just a a killer, but now I have, you know, more killer, but now I have, you know, more killer, but now I have, you know, more meaning to what I'm doing." And like he meaning to what I'm doing." And like he meaning to what I'm doing." And like he his character does change. It goes his character does change. It goes his character does change. It goes through an arc. through an arc. through an arc. Whereas in Tears of the Kingdom, this Whereas in Tears of the Kingdom, this Whereas in Tears of the Kingdom, this seems to be a resetting of the timeline. seems to be a resetting of the timeline. seems to be a resetting of the timeline. Essentially this this what we see of Essentially this this what we see of Essentially this this what we see of Ganondorf, this is his his first time, Ganondorf, this is his his first time, Ganondorf, this is his his first time, you know, going through Hyrule and you know, going through Hyrule and you know, going through Hyrule and meeting the king and stuff. meeting the king and stuff. meeting the king and stuff. And so I think he still has room to And so I think he still has room to And so I think he still has room to grow. I don't think this is the last grow. I don't think this is the last grow. I don't think this is the last we've seen of this Ganondorf if the we've seen of this Ganondorf if the we've seen of this Ganondorf if the previous, you know, Zelda games are previous, you know, Zelda games are previous, you know, Zelda games are anything to go off of. If this is a true anything to go off of. If this is a true anything to go off of. If this is a true resetting of the timelines, then he'll resetting of the timelines, then he'll resetting of the timelines, then he'll probably come back several times and probably come back several times and probably come back several times and maybe he'll have like a full character maybe he'll have like a full character maybe he'll have like a full character arc by then.

arc by then. arc by then. But I think this was a cool start. Um But I think this was a cool start. Um But I think this was a cool start. Um I do wish he made some more appearances I do wish he made some more appearances I do wish he made some more appearances in the modern time throughout the game. in the modern time throughout the game. in the modern time throughout the game. I I really don't like in in TV, movies, I I really don't like in in TV, movies, I I really don't like in in TV, movies, video games, whatever when video games, whatever when video games, whatever when there's a a a big bad there's a a a big bad there's a a a big bad and you never really interact with them and you never really interact with them and you never really interact with them until the final boss fight. And I'm glad until the final boss fight. And I'm glad until the final boss fight. And I'm glad we get to see him in memories and stuff we get to see him in memories and stuff we get to see him in memories and stuff in Tears of the Kingdom, but his in Tears of the Kingdom, but his in Tears of the Kingdom, but his presence didn't feel totally felt until presence didn't feel totally felt until presence didn't feel totally felt until like you do get to finally fight him. like you do get to finally fight him. like you do get to finally fight him. But all in all I feel I think it was I But all in all I feel I think it was I But all in all I feel I think it was I think I thought Ganondorf was pretty think I thought Ganondorf was pretty think I thought Ganondorf was pretty badass and his transformation was really badass and his transformation was really badass and his transformation was really cool. I think giving him a voice in this cool. I think giving him a voice in this cool. I think giving him a voice in this game really added to his character. game really added to his character. game really added to his character. his voice. Oh man, people like his voice. Oh man, people like his voice. Oh man, people like like the amount of memes that people like the amount of memes that people like the amount of memes that people were like, "Oh man, he looks so hot." were like, "Oh man, he looks so hot." were like, "Oh man, he looks so hot." Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. I I love that as well because I I love that as well because I I love that as well because like His character design was like His character design was like His character design was on Oh yeah, it was fantastic because on Oh yeah, it was fantastic because on Oh yeah, it was fantastic because I always wondered how will they do I always wondered how will they do I always wondered how will they do Ganondorf in this style of Ganondorf in this style of Ganondorf in this style of art. Because we know how Link looks, we art. Because we know how Link looks, we art. Because we know how Link looks, we know how Zelda looks. How are they going know how Zelda looks. How are they going know how Zelda looks. How are they going to do Ganondorf? And to do Ganondorf? And to do Ganondorf? And him hot and badass. Exactly. There you him hot and badass. Exactly. There you him hot and badass. Exactly. There you go. Jacked, buff, muscular with a giant go. Jacked, buff, muscular with a giant go. Jacked, buff, muscular with a giant Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, so there you go. He's just bad.

so there you go. He's just bad. so there you go. He's just bad. He's got the nice hair going as well. He's got the nice hair going as well. He's got the nice hair going as well. And I I think they did Yeah, what's up? And I I think they did Yeah, what's up? And I I think they did Yeah, what's up? I was I was I was I really I remembered one part I loved I really I remembered one part I loved I really I remembered one part I loved about Ganondorf's character is when he about Ganondorf's character is when he about Ganondorf's character is when he got sealed by Rauru and he was like, got sealed by Rauru and he was like, got sealed by Rauru and he was like, "This is going to be like a blink of the "This is going to be like a blink of the "This is going to be like a blink of the eye for me. I can't wait to wake up and eye for me. I can't wait to wake up and eye for me. I can't wait to wake up and fight this Link guy that you all are fight this Link guy that you all are fight this Link guy that you all are talking about so much. I'm going to kick talking about so much. I'm going to kick talking about so much. I'm going to kick I'm Y'all are hyping him up for me. He's I'm Y'all are hyping him up for me. He's I'm Y'all are hyping him up for me. He's got some legendary sword. What I cannot got some legendary sword. What I cannot got some legendary sword. What I cannot wait to come out and and just ruin this wait to come out and and just ruin this wait to come out and and just ruin this for you guys." I loved that like little for you guys." I loved that like little for you guys." I loved that like little interaction with him. I was like, "Damn, interaction with him. I was like, "Damn, interaction with him. I was like, "Damn, Ganondorf has some like oomph on the Ganondorf has some like oomph on the Ganondorf has some like oomph on the man. He's ready for this fight." man. He's ready for this fight." man. He's ready for this fight." I also really liked the skeleton I also really liked the skeleton I also really liked the skeleton Ganondorf. That was done as well because Ganondorf. That was done as well because Ganondorf. That was done as well because he made an appearance at the beginning he made an appearance at the beginning he made an appearance at the beginning of the game and you see him at the end of the game and you see him at the end of the game and you see him at the end right before the final boss, but you right before the final boss, but you right before the final boss, but you also see him also see him also see him uh when you uh uh when you uh uh when you uh overtake like when you go back to Hyrule overtake like when you go back to Hyrule overtake like when you go back to Hyrule Castle, you encounter puppet Zelda and Castle, you encounter puppet Zelda and Castle, you encounter puppet Zelda and then he comes back and he's actually then he comes back and he's actually then he comes back and he's actually talking to you and the sages. That was a talking to you and the sages. That was a talking to you and the sages. That was a really cool moment as well. So yeah.

really cool moment as well. So yeah. really cool moment as well. So yeah. Yeah. Um any final things about the Yeah. Um any final things about the Yeah. Um any final things about the story? We can get close to wrapping up story? We can get close to wrapping up story? We can get close to wrapping up here, but any final things you guys want here, but any final things you guys want here, but any final things you guys want to say about anything? Like combat, to say about anything? Like combat, to say about anything? Like combat, exploration, story, um about Elden Ring. exploration, story, um about Elden Ring. exploration, story, um about Elden Ring. We talked so much about Tears of the We talked so much about Tears of the We talked so much about Tears of the Kingdom in this Kingdom in this Kingdom in this We did. We did. It's It's It's fresher We did. We did. It's It's It's fresher We did. We did. It's It's It's fresher in the mind. It's fresher in the mind. in the mind. It's fresher in the mind. in the mind. It's fresher in the mind. Yeah, and like we love both of these Yeah, and like we love both of these Yeah, and like we love both of these games games games some more than the others. We think both some more than the others. We think both some more than the others. We think both of these games are great in their own of these games are great in their own of these games are great in their own way. way. way. I to to kind of like bring it all I to to kind of like bring it all I to to kind of like bring it all together, I think Elden Ring has really together, I think Elden Ring has really together, I think Elden Ring has really really really good RPG systems, really really really good RPG systems, really really really good RPG systems, really really good combat and customization and really good combat and customization and really good combat and customization and progression with your character. The progression with your character. The progression with your character. The variety of builds, the variety of variety of builds, the variety of variety of builds, the variety of different combat styles, all that. Tears different combat styles, all that. Tears different combat styles, all that. Tears of the Kingdom of the Kingdom of the Kingdom to me I think has a more engaging and to me I think has a more engaging and to me I think has a more engaging and more fun world to explore because of its more fun world to explore because of its more fun world to explore because of its um um um uh uh uh I just I just I just like the the things that are in the like the the things that are in the like the the things that are in the world. The things that are in the world world. The things that are in the world world. The things that are in the world that get you to go from here to there that get you to go from here to there that get you to go from here to there and all that. And just some of the and all that. And just some of the and all that. And just some of the characters are fun to interact with. The characters are fun to interact with. The characters are fun to interact with. The side quests are fun to do.

side quests are fun to do. side quests are fun to do. Um Elden Ring also has a great world, Um Elden Ring also has a great world, Um Elden Ring also has a great world, but I think also Tears of the Kingdom's but I think also Tears of the Kingdom's but I think also Tears of the Kingdom's verticality is one thing. So what what verticality is one thing. So what what verticality is one thing. So what what do you guys What are your guys's like do you guys What are your guys's like do you guys What are your guys's like conclusions sum up kind of final conclusions sum up kind of final conclusions sum up kind of final thoughts? thoughts? thoughts? Mm. Mm. Mm. I would go combat Elden Ring. Yeah. Um I would go combat Elden Ring. Yeah. Um I would go combat Elden Ring. Yeah. Um it's also got Not that Tears of the it's also got Not that Tears of the it's also got Not that Tears of the Kingdom doesn't, but Elden Ring's Kingdom doesn't, but Elden Ring's Kingdom doesn't, but Elden Ring's replayability is like out the wazoo. Oh replayability is like out the wazoo. Oh replayability is like out the wazoo. Oh yeah. yeah. yeah. Um so I'd go combat Elden Ring. Um so I'd go combat Elden Ring. Um so I'd go combat Elden Ring. Um open world and exploration, I'd give Um open world and exploration, I'd give Um open world and exploration, I'd give to Elden Ring due to the variety, the uh to Elden Ring due to the variety, the uh to Elden Ring due to the variety, the uh the sense of wonder and mystery. the sense of wonder and mystery. the sense of wonder and mystery. Um the fact that they don't have a Um the fact that they don't have a Um the fact that they don't have a thousand Korok seeds to find. And story, thousand Korok seeds to find. And story, thousand Korok seeds to find. And story, I would give to Tears of the Kingdom. I I would give to Tears of the Kingdom. I I would give to Tears of the Kingdom. I think Tears Tears it's close, but I think Tears Tears it's close, but I think Tears Tears it's close, but I think Tears hit me harder just like my think Tears hit me harder just like my think Tears hit me harder just like my general Zelda fandom. general Zelda fandom. general Zelda fandom. I'll I'll give it to Tears. Hey guys, my I'll I'll give it to Tears. Hey guys, my I'll I'll give it to Tears. Hey guys, my friend is over there. friend is over there. friend is over there. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, your Korok friend? your Korok friend? your Korok friend? Yeah. And I I would say for me like Yeah. And I I would say for me like Yeah. And I I would say for me like definitely combat is Elden Ring 100%.

definitely combat is Elden Ring 100%. definitely combat is Elden Ring 100%. The replayability, the builds, the enemy The replayability, the builds, the enemy The replayability, the builds, the enemy variety, the bosses which is variety, the bosses which is variety, the bosses which is is what I live for, it just has to be is what I live for, it just has to be is what I live for, it just has to be Elden Ring. And exploration I think is Elden Ring. And exploration I think is Elden Ring. And exploration I think is both great in like both games. I don't both great in like both games. I don't both great in like both games. I don't think there's like one that's like think there's like one that's like think there's like one that's like superiorly better, but I just love the superiorly better, but I just love the superiorly better, but I just love the verticality and just the creativity of verticality and just the creativity of verticality and just the creativity of Tears of the Kingdoms Tears of the Kingdoms Tears of the Kingdoms uh uh uh exploration and I really enjoy that. exploration and I really enjoy that. exploration and I really enjoy that. Story, man this is a tough one because Story, man this is a tough one because Story, man this is a tough one because yeah, it's tough because I love the the yeah, it's tough because I love the the yeah, it's tough because I love the the story story story for Elden was more of like the community for Elden was more of like the community for Elden was more of like the community kind of like forged it and like just the kind of like forged it and like just the kind of like forged it and like just the the difficulty of the bosses and the difficulty of the bosses and the difficulty of the bosses and overcoming them was just so amazing. But overcoming them was just so amazing. But overcoming them was just so amazing. But I would say I definitely enjoyed them I would say I definitely enjoyed them I would say I definitely enjoyed them making us have like a service level making us have like a service level making us have like a service level story within Tears of the Kingdom so I story within Tears of the Kingdom so I story within Tears of the Kingdom so I can actually feel for the characters. can actually feel for the characters. can actually feel for the characters. Um Um Um So and I hope basically in conclusion my So and I hope basically in conclusion my So and I hope basically in conclusion my thing is I hope that both of these games thing is I hope that both of these games thing is I hope that both of these games like learn from each other. Like Elden like learn from each other. Like Elden like learn from each other. Like Elden Ring did from Breath of the Wild and I'm Ring did from Breath of the Wild and I'm Ring did from Breath of the Wild and I'm pretty sure Tears of the Kingdom also pretty sure Tears of the Kingdom also pretty sure Tears of the Kingdom also learned from Elden Ring in different learned from Elden Ring in different learned from Elden Ring in different ways, too. But ways, too. But ways, too. But I'm excited to see what the next I'm excited to see what the next I'm excited to see what the next FromSoftware game does with its world FromSoftware game does with its world FromSoftware game does with its world and its verticality. That's one thing I and its verticality. That's one thing I and its verticality. That's one thing I don't think they'll change their story don't think they'll change their story don't think they'll change their story presentation now.

presentation now. presentation now. But I will say one real quick thing. But I will say one real quick thing. But I will say one real quick thing. Uh you were saying uh Lunatunes, which Uh you were saying uh Lunatunes, which Uh you were saying uh Lunatunes, which games have the similar kind of um games have the similar kind of um games have the similar kind of um uh what's that? Um non-linear uh what's that? Um non-linear uh what's that? Um non-linear storytelling where you have to look into storytelling where you have to look into storytelling where you have to look into memories or look into logs or anything memories or look into logs or anything memories or look into logs or anything like that? Metroid Prime. And You also like that? Metroid Prime. And You also like that? Metroid Prime. And You also recently played that game, yeah. True. recently played that game, yeah. True. recently played that game, yeah. True. All the scanning. Like I I still don't All the scanning. Like I I still don't All the scanning. Like I I still don't know the full extent of the story of know the full extent of the story of know the full extent of the story of Metroid Prime cuz I didn't scan Metroid Prime cuz I didn't scan Metroid Prime cuz I didn't scan everything, but when you do scan, you everything, but when you do scan, you everything, but when you do scan, you get a good idea of like, "Oh, this is get a good idea of like, "Oh, this is get a good idea of like, "Oh, this is what's happening here. Oh, this happened what's happening here. Oh, this happened what's happening here. Oh, this happened here. Oh, the Chozo did this and the here. Oh, the Chozo did this and the here. Oh, the Chozo did this and the Chozo were here because of this." So Chozo were here because of this." So Chozo were here because of this." So that's another that's another that's another like like like I want to throw in Deathloop maybe. I want to throw in Deathloop maybe. I want to throw in Deathloop maybe. Maybe. But I didn't particularly like Maybe. But I didn't particularly like Maybe. But I didn't particularly like Deathloop story. So that that could be one of them, but So that that could be one of them, but it's obviously not as done as well as it's obviously not as done as well as it's obviously not as done as well as like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, Tears of the Kingdom or anything like Tears of the Kingdom or anything like Tears of the Kingdom or anything like that. Yeah. That's more for like you that. Yeah. That's more for like you that. Yeah. That's more for like you read the notes on the walls and read the notes on the walls and read the notes on the walls and everything. Yeah. Yeah. Um I guess that everything. Yeah. Yeah. Um I guess that everything. Yeah. Yeah. Um I guess that about wraps things up. Thank you guys so about wraps things up. Thank you guys so about wraps things up. Thank you guys so much for joining.

much for joining. much for joining. Um Um Um I I want to hand it over to you guys one I I want to hand it over to you guys one I I want to hand it over to you guys one last time. Shout out any projects or last time. Shout out any projects or last time. Shout out any projects or things you guys are working on. Dylan, things you guys are working on. Dylan, things you guys are working on. Dylan, you want to go first? you want to go first? you want to go first? Yeah, sure. So once again, you can find Yeah, sure. So once again, you can find Yeah, sure. So once again, you can find me at Lunatunes on YouTube and me at Lunatunes on YouTube and me at Lunatunes on YouTube and Lunatunes25 on Twitter. Lunatunes25 on Twitter. Lunatunes25 on Twitter. My most recent video was actually a My most recent video was actually a My most recent video was actually a retro review of Castlevania: Symphony of retro review of Castlevania: Symphony of retro review of Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. It's my first time ever the Night. It's my first time ever the Night. It's my first time ever playing Symphony of the Night, my first playing Symphony of the Night, my first playing Symphony of the Night, my first time playing Castlevania in general. Had time playing Castlevania in general. Had time playing Castlevania in general. Had a lot of fun with that one. And but it a lot of fun with that one. And but it a lot of fun with that one. And but it was like pretty The last couple videos was like pretty The last couple videos was like pretty The last couple videos I've done have been pretty edit heavy, I've done have been pretty edit heavy, I've done have been pretty edit heavy, so I'm kind of tired. So I think the so I'm kind of tired. So I think the so I'm kind of tired. So I think the next video I'm going to do is going to next video I'm going to do is going to next video I'm going to do is going to be nice and easy. I'm going to do a be nice and easy. I'm going to do a be nice and easy. I'm going to do a Zelda game tier list. Zelda game tier list. Zelda game tier list. We're going to rank all the Zelda games We're going to rank all the Zelda games We're going to rank all the Zelda games now that Tears of the Kingdom is wrapped now that Tears of the Kingdom is wrapped now that Tears of the Kingdom is wrapped up. up. up. So yeah, that should be fun. I don't So yeah, that should be fun. I don't So yeah, that should be fun. I don't know when it'll drop. Maybe know when it'll drop. Maybe know when it'll drop. Maybe I hope to get it done before this I hope to get it done before this I hope to get it done before this weekend. So weekend. So weekend. So we'll see. Take Take a Take a peek at we'll see. Take Take a Take a peek at we'll see. Take Take a Take a peek at the channel and once again Niche, thanks the channel and once again Niche, thanks the channel and once again Niche, thanks for having me on. Yeah, I'm also curious for having me on. Yeah, I'm also curious for having me on. Yeah, I'm also curious to potentially maybe hear your thoughts to potentially maybe hear your thoughts to potentially maybe hear your thoughts on Metal Gear Solid 3. As someone who's on Metal Gear Solid 3. As someone who's on Metal Gear Solid 3. As someone who's played one and two but not played three, played one and two but not played three, played one and two but not played three, I'm excited to play it in October when I'm excited to play it in October when I'm excited to play it in October when the Master Collection comes out. I'm the Master Collection comes out. I'm the Master Collection comes out. I'm curious to maybe hear your thoughts on curious to maybe hear your thoughts on curious to maybe hear your thoughts on that as well.

that as well. that as well. Sure, I do I can give you a very quick Sure, I do I can give you a very quick Sure, I do I can give you a very quick CliffNotes. It is if as someone this is CliffNotes. It is if as someone this is CliffNotes. It is if as someone this is my first ever like Metal Gear game. I'm my first ever like Metal Gear game. I'm my first ever like Metal Gear game. I'm only playing this one first because it's only playing this one first because it's only playing this one first because it's like first in the in the timeline. It like first in the in the timeline. It like first in the in the timeline. It was so hard for me to get into and learn was so hard for me to get into and learn was so hard for me to get into and learn all the systems. I had no idea what was all the systems. I had no idea what was all the systems. I had no idea what was going on, but now that I've got a going on, but now that I've got a going on, but now that I've got a foothold, it's really really good. And foothold, it's really really good. And foothold, it's really really good. And the the music the the theme song of of the the music the the theme song of of the the music the the theme song of of Snake Eater is phenomenal as well. Snake Eater is phenomenal as well. Snake Eater is phenomenal as well. Shane, do you want to shout out anything Shane, do you want to shout out anything Shane, do you want to shout out anything or promote anything you're working on? or promote anything you're working on? or promote anything you're working on? I'm not working on anything currently I'm not working on anything currently I'm not working on anything currently right now, but hopefully one day I soon right now, but hopefully one day I soon right now, but hopefully one day I soon will be. Yes, yeah. I will be. Yes, yeah. I will be. Yes, yeah. I Whenever Shane starts his YouTube Whenever Shane starts his YouTube Whenever Shane starts his YouTube channel, I'll put it back down in the channel, I'll put it back down in the channel, I'll put it back down in the description here. And description here. And description here. And Shane was also on some other episodes of Shane was also on some other episodes of Shane was also on some other episodes of the EXP podcast. So you guys can check the EXP podcast. So you guys can check the EXP podcast. So you guys can check those out. I'll have those linked in the those out. I'll have those linked in the those out. I'll have those linked in the description. We talked about like description. We talked about like description. We talked about like game hardware versus like lower-end game hardware versus like lower-end game hardware versus like lower-end hardware. Like it was basically like hardware. Like it was basically like hardware. Like it was basically like Steam Deck versus Switch and what we Steam Deck versus Switch and what we Steam Deck versus Switch and what we want from the next Switch. We talked want from the next Switch. We talked want from the next Switch. We talked about that like late last year. We also about that like late last year. We also about that like late last year. We also did Themes. Huh?

did Themes. Huh? did Themes. Huh? What? Themes. We want themes. What? Themes. We want themes. What? Themes. We want themes. Folders. Yes. Not just the groups that Folders. Yes. Not just the groups that Folders. Yes. Not just the groups that we got on the Switch which are really we got on the Switch which are really we got on the Switch which are really silly and lame. And then we also did a silly and lame. And then we also did a silly and lame. And then we also did a God of War Ragnarok spoiler talk with God of War Ragnarok spoiler talk with God of War Ragnarok spoiler talk with some other friends. So that was fun. some other friends. So that was fun. some other friends. So that was fun. We'll have that in description and We'll have that in description and We'll have that in description and for me for me for me I have a bunch of stuff in on deck which I have a bunch of stuff in on deck which I have a bunch of stuff in on deck which I'm working on. I'll get it all out I'm working on. I'll get it all out I'm working on. I'll get it all out eventually, but also we're close to 1K. eventually, but also we're close to 1K. eventually, but also we're close to 1K. So if you guys enjoyed this video, give So if you guys enjoyed this video, give So if you guys enjoyed this video, give it a like, subscribe to me as well as it a like, subscribe to me as well as it a like, subscribe to me as well as Lunatoons and Shane whenever I drop his Lunatoons and Shane whenever I drop his Lunatoons and Shane whenever I drop his channel down below. channel down below. channel down below. Thank you guys so much for joining. It Thank you guys so much for joining. It Thank you guys so much for joining. It was a really fun chat. I knew I had to was a really fun chat. I knew I had to was a really fun chat. I knew I had to do it with you two specifically for this do it with you two specifically for this do it with you two specifically for this topic for this topic for this topic for this um um um specific episode. And yeah, it was a specific episode. And yeah, it was a specific episode. And yeah, it was a great talk. great talk. great talk. Thank you so much. No problem. Yeah, Thank you so much. No problem. Yeah, Thank you so much. No problem. Yeah, this is Niche Quick, Shane, and this is Niche Quick, Shane, and this is Niche Quick, Shane, and Lunatoons signing off. Have a great day. Lunatoons signing off. Have a great day. Lunatoons signing off. Have a great day. Go play some great games today like Go play some great games today like Go play some great games today like Elden Ring and Legend of Zelda Tears of Elden Ring and Legend of Zelda Tears of Elden Ring and Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom. I'll see you guys in the the Kingdom. I'll see you guys in the the Kingdom. I'll see you guys in the next one. Later. Peace. Later.