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THE ULTIMATE Metroid Tier List with @AndresRestart ! EXP Podcast ep. 21

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  1. hey guys Nish quii here and welcome to a hey guys Nish quii here and welcome to a very special episode of the EXP podcast very special episode of the EXP podcast very special episode of the EXP podcast as you can see here I'm here with a very as you can see here I'm here with a very as you can see here I'm here with a very special guest and that is Andress special guest and that is Andress special guest and that is Andress restart and I feel like a lot of my restart and I feel like a lot of my restart and I feel like a lot of my viewers definitely know who Andress viewers definitely know who Andress viewers definitely know who Andress restart is he's one of my favorite restart is he's one of my favorite restart is he's one of my favorite Nintendo YouTubers and um now since Nintendo YouTubers and um now since Nintendo YouTubers and um now since you're here on the channel I wanted to you're here on the channel I wanted to you're here on the channel I wanted to say and restart is one of the reasons I say and restart is one of the reasons I say and restart is one of the reasons I kind of started YouTube during the whole kind of started YouTube during the whole kind of started YouTube during the whole pandemic time so it's kind of like a pandemic time so it's kind of like a pandemic time so it's kind of like a full circle he's here on the channel and full circle he's here on the channel and full circle he's here on the channel and it's so cool to have you here so thank it's so cool to have you here so thank it's so cool to have you here so thank you for joining no man yeah thanks for you for joining no man yeah thanks for you for joining no man yeah thanks for having me and thanks for the High Praise having me and thanks for the High Praise having me and thanks for the High Praise that that's awesome that you know I that that's awesome that you know I that that's awesome that you know I helped inspired you at least a little helped inspired you at least a little helped inspired you at least a little bit so I didn't know that so that's bit so I didn't know that so that's bit so I didn't know that so that's awesome yeah one of my favorite Nintendo awesome yeah one of my favorite Nintendo awesome yeah one of my favorite Nintendo Youtubers of all time for sure but today Youtubers of all time for sure but today Youtubers of all time for sure but today we're going to be talking about Metroid we're going to be talking about Metroid we're going to be talking about Metroid and we're going to be doing something and we're going to be doing something and we're going to be doing something Metroid related we're going to be making Metroid related we're going to be making Metroid related we're going to be making a Metroid tier list because you got guys a Metroid tier list because you got guys a Metroid tier list because you got guys know I have made a few Metroid videos on know I have made a few Metroid videos on know I have made a few Metroid videos on the channel but I'm going to start the channel but I'm going to start the channel but I'm going to start making a few more this year because the making a few more this year because the making a few more this year because the elephant in the room is with switch 2 elephant in the room is with switch 2 elephant in the room is with switch 2 Metroid Prime 4 is possibly coming as Metroid Prime 4 is possibly coming as Metroid Prime 4 is possibly coming as well and I've been in kind of a Metroid well and I've been in kind of a Metroid well and I've been in kind of a Metroid mood I've been playing a few more mood I've been playing a few more mood I've been playing a few more Metroid games here and there especially Metroid games here and there especially Metroid games here and there especially the past couple years and especially the past couple years and especially the past couple years and especially this year I kind of did a Metroid vinge this year I kind of did a Metroid vinge this year I kind of did a Metroid vinge so I thought who better to come on the so I thought who better to come on the so I thought who better to come on the channel to do a Metroid tier list with channel to do a Metroid tier list with channel to do a Metroid tier list with me than on restart and one thing is I've me than on restart and one thing is I've me than on restart and one thing is I've played a few Metroid games I haven't played a few Metroid games I haven't played a few Metroid games I haven't played all of them but I feel like the

  2. played all of them but I feel like the played all of them but I feel like the ones that I haven't played Andre has ones that I haven't played Andre has ones that I haven't played Andre has played and vice versa the ones that played and vice versa the ones that played and vice versa the ones that Andre hasn't played I might have played Andre hasn't played I might have played Andre hasn't played I might have played so without further Ado let's get started so without further Ado let's get started so without further Ado let's get started yes yeah sure um right and Andress is yes yeah sure um right and Andress is yes yeah sure um right and Andress is graciously helping me with this whole graciously helping me with this whole graciously helping me with this whole scene and shout out to him for that scene and shout out to him for that scene and shout out to him for that thank you very much no problem yeah so thank you very much no problem yeah so thank you very much no problem yeah so how how do you want to do this do you how how do you want to do this do you how how do you want to do this do you want to go go by release order or by the want to go go by release order or by the want to go go by release order or by the order that it is here I think we can I order that it is here I think we can I order that it is here I think we can I think we can go release think we can go release think we can go release order and all right it's really tough order and all right it's really tough order and all right it's really tough really tough because like now I have to really tough because like now I have to really tough because like now I have to start thinking about like what which start thinking about like what which start thinking about like what which ones I position where and where do we ones I position where and where do we ones I position where and where do we start um well I mean how do you want to start um well I mean how do you want to start um well I mean how do you want to do you want to start like worse first do you want to start like worse first do you want to start like worse first and then just kind of work our way up I and then just kind of work our way up I and then just kind of work our way up I I think we can just go by release order I think we can just go by release order I think we can just go by release order of the of the of the maybe we could you know if we change our maybe we could you know if we change our maybe we could you know if we change our minds like halfway through like ah that minds like halfway through like ah that minds like halfway through like ah that doesn't feel right all right I'm down doesn't feel right all right I'm down doesn't feel right all right I'm down yeah yeah yeah we can we can go with the yeah yeah yeah we can we can go with the yeah yeah yeah we can we can go with the flow because yeah I I feel like we will flow because yeah I I feel like we will flow because yeah I I feel like we will have some disagreements along the way as have some disagreements along the way as have some disagreements along the way as well that's inevitable yes um all right well that's inevitable yes um all right well that's inevitable yes um all right so I guess Metroid Fusion so I guess Metroid Fusion so I guess Metroid Fusion then Metroid then Metroid then Metroid Fusion okay here's my thing with Fusion okay here's my thing with Fusion okay here's my thing with Fusion I think Fusion is a good met Fusion I think Fusion is a good met Fusion I think Fusion is a good met Metroid game it's a great Metroid Metroid game it's a great Metroid Metroid game it's a great Metroid game but it's never been one of my

  3. game but it's never been one of my game but it's never been one of my favorites and I don't know why I think favorites and I don't know why I think favorites and I don't know why I think it is a very linear game in its it is a very linear game in its it is a very linear game in its progression and it didn't feel as progression and it didn't feel as progression and it didn't feel as rewarding as super to me and it didn't rewarding as super to me and it didn't rewarding as super to me and it didn't give me that like Metroid Vania give me that like Metroid Vania give me that like Metroid Vania Discovery feeling I don't know about you Discovery feeling I don't know about you Discovery feeling I don't know about you how did you feel about Fusion I like how did you feel about Fusion I like how did you feel about Fusion I like fusion um I would argue fusion um I would argue fusion um I would argue that with Fusion it is it does feel more that with Fusion it is it does feel more that with Fusion it is it does feel more bite-sized and it's kind of easier to bite-sized and it's kind of easier to bite-sized and it's kind of easier to get through it and so on one hand you get through it and so on one hand you get through it and so on one hand you could argue okay doesn't really give you could argue okay doesn't really give you could argue okay doesn't really give you the same sort of Metroid veiny the same sort of Metroid veiny the same sort of Metroid veiny experience especially like super metroid experience especially like super metroid experience especially like super metroid but on the other You could argue that but on the other You could argue that but on the other You could argue that it's also easier to sort of jump into it's also easier to sort of jump into it's also easier to sort of jump into you know and kind of experience like you you know and kind of experience like you you know and kind of experience like you can play and like you could probably you can play and like you could probably you can play and like you could probably you can play and beat it in one to two can play and beat it in one to two can play and beat it in one to two sessions you know if you kind of know sessions you know if you kind of know sessions you know if you kind of know your way already um so your way already um so your way already um so I I I I I agree at least with that we'll I I I I I agree at least with that we'll I I I I I agree at least with that we'll probably um be thrown by the wayside by probably um be thrown by the wayside by probably um be thrown by the wayside by the Metroid Community if we put Fusion the Metroid Community if we put Fusion the Metroid Community if we put Fusion above Super Metroid um so I think Fusion above Super Metroid um so I think Fusion above Super Metroid um so I think Fusion should go I'll be very harsh on Fus should go I'll be very harsh on Fus should go I'll be very harsh on Fus fusion with this so I would say I would say high C low B and that say I would say high C low B and that might I I I actually I thought we we're might I I I actually I thought we we're might I I I actually I thought we we're going to disagree but I I think that's going to disagree but I I think that's going to disagree but I I think that's fair now I I guess maybe should we take fair now I I guess maybe should we take fair now I I guess maybe should we take a moment to like like for

  4. a moment to like like for a moment to like like for example we're just trying to rank them example we're just trying to rank them example we're just trying to rank them in terms of the Metroid games right cuz in terms of the Metroid games right cuz in terms of the Metroid games right cuz like let's say for example we put a like let's say for example we put a like let's say for example we put a Metroid game in D that doesn't mean the Metroid game in D that doesn't mean the Metroid game in D that doesn't mean the game's like a one out of 10 right that game's like a one out of 10 right that game's like a one out of 10 right that just means it's you know out of the just means it's you know out of the just means it's you know out of the Metroid game it's the worst but it Metroid game it's the worst but it Metroid game it's the worst but it doesn't mean you shouldn't play it yeah doesn't mean you shouldn't play it yeah doesn't mean you shouldn't play it yeah yeah all right so I mean yeah we're just yeah all right so I mean yeah we're just yeah all right so I mean yeah we're just ranking them amongst the Metroid Series ranking them amongst the Metroid Series ranking them amongst the Metroid Series right so like yeah C doesn't mean it's right so like yeah C doesn't mean it's right so like yeah C doesn't mean it's it's it's like a seven out of 10 game it it's it's like a seven out of 10 game it it's it's like a seven out of 10 game it just means it's yeah cuz like eventually just means it's yeah cuz like eventually just means it's yeah cuz like eventually several Like Other M and Other M is several Like Other M and Other M is several Like Other M and Other M is maybe not the best Metroid game but maybe not the best Metroid game but maybe not the best Metroid game but don't know I'm I'm going to keep my my don't know I'm I'm going to keep my my don't know I'm I'm going to keep my my my lip seal on that one until we get to my lip seal on that one until we get to my lip seal on that one until we get to it or or another example is like Metroid it or or another example is like Metroid it or or another example is like Metroid 1 Metroid 1 is one of the most 1 Metroid 1 is one of the most 1 Metroid 1 is one of the most revolutionary games you could say revolutionary games you could say revolutionary games you could say because it was like one of the big three because it was like one of the big three because it was like one of the big three NES games but also started the series so NES games but also started the series so NES games but also started the series so so borly yes but I I think Fusion we can so borly yes but I I think Fusion we can so borly yes but I I think Fusion we can put in C for now and I will say I feel put in C for now and I will say I feel put in C for now and I will say I feel like a like a like a few Metroid like veterans will be like few Metroid like veterans will be like few Metroid like veterans will be like Fusion is too low it needs to be at Fusion is too low it needs to be at Fusion is too low it needs to be at least a b or an A or even an S I liked least a b or an A or even an S I liked least a b or an A or even an S I liked Fusion but I feel like the Metroid Fusion but I feel like the Metroid Fusion but I feel like the Metroid Essence I've gotten from other games in Essence I've gotten from other games in Essence I've gotten from other games in the series and we'll talk about that the series and we'll talk about that the series and we'll talk about that more another thing I like wasn't into more another thing I like wasn't into more another thing I like wasn't into with Fusion was um with Fusion was um with Fusion was um like I I talked about how linear it was like I I talked about how linear it was like I I talked about how linear it was it literally felt like point A to B then

  5. it literally felt like point A to B then it literally felt like point A to B then B to C and C to D because like you go B to C and C to D because like you go B to C and C to D because like you go from one like terminal and then you go from one like terminal and then you go from one like terminal and then you go talk to Adam in the other place and Adam talk to Adam in the other place and Adam talk to Adam in the other place and Adam tells you where to go and then you go to tells you where to go and then you go to tells you where to go and then you go to where Adam go like tells you where to go where Adam go like tells you where to go where Adam go like tells you where to go and it's just kind of like it felt and it's just kind of like it felt and it's just kind of like it felt linear and it didn't feel like yeah it linear and it didn't feel like yeah it linear and it didn't feel like yeah it was it was it it was pretty linear um was it was it it was pretty linear um was it was it it was pretty linear um that's how I felt um and but it was also that's how I felt um and but it was also that's how I felt um and but it was also cool right cuz you had like those cool right cuz you had like those cool right cuz you had like those moments where the you know you were moments where the you know you were moments where the you know you were being followed the SX yeah and that being followed the SX yeah and that being followed the SX yeah and that was you know it was a little bit of like was you know it was a little bit of like was you know it was a little bit of like Dread before dread yes yeah uh and so I Dread before dread yes yeah uh and so I Dread before dread yes yeah uh and so I mean in a lot of ways Fusion there's mean in a lot of ways Fusion there's mean in a lot of ways Fusion there's elements of fusion that that have became elements of fusion that that have became elements of fusion that that have became what dread is and I spoiler alert dreads what dread is and I spoiler alert dreads what dread is and I spoiler alert dreads going to be higher on this going to be higher on this going to be higher on this list definely unless you just yeah it list definely unless you just yeah it list definely unless you just yeah it doesn't look you don't disagree but it doesn't look you don't disagree but it doesn't look you don't disagree but it would have been funny if you did but I I would have been funny if you did but I I would have been funny if you did but I I just I really doubted you were going to just I really doubted you were going to just I really doubted you were going to you were going to disagree um so yeah I you were going to disagree um so yeah I you were going to disagree um so yeah I mean I could see us fitting fusion into mean I could see us fitting fusion into mean I could see us fitting fusion into into the B tier right um but it would be into the B tier right um but it would be into the B tier right um but it would be low B I'll give it a high C for now low B I'll give it a high C for now low B I'll give it a high C for now yeah we'll revisit this but uh I agree yeah we'll revisit this but uh I agree yeah we'll revisit this but uh I agree with that Fusion had some very difficult with that Fusion had some very difficult with that Fusion had some very difficult fights that's another thing which Fusion fights that's another thing which Fusion fights that's another thing which Fusion was very for a for me yeah very iconic was very for a for me yeah very iconic was very for a for me yeah very iconic fights though but very diff fights though but very diff fights though but very diff all right yeah I think we can move on to all right yeah I think we can move on to all right yeah I think we can move on to Metroid 2 have you played Metroid 2 I Metroid 2 have you played Metroid 2 I Metroid 2 have you played Metroid 2 I have not beaten it so what are your

  6. have not beaten it so what are your have not beaten it so what are your thoughts on Metroid 2 I have not played thoughts on Metroid 2 I have not played thoughts on Metroid 2 I have not played Metroid 2 I have played Sam returns and Metroid 2 I have played Sam returns and Metroid 2 I have played Sam returns and I have right which is a remake of it yes I have right which is a remake of it yes I have right which is a remake of it yes I have opinions on Sam returns but we'll I have opinions on Sam returns but we'll I have opinions on Sam returns but we'll get to that but since you've played both get to that but since you've played both get to that but since you've played both I kind want I kind of want to know how I kind want I kind of want to know how I kind want I kind of want to know how aric Metroid 2 feels now because aric Metroid 2 feels now because aric Metroid 2 feels now because sometimes I see gameplay of it I'm like sometimes I see gameplay of it I'm like sometimes I see gameplay of it I'm like how can I play this if you can't tell I how can I play this if you can't tell I how can I play this if you can't tell I already kind of feel like it should be a already kind of feel like it should be a already kind of feel like it should be a tier below um Metroid Fusion for sure I tier below um Metroid Fusion for sure I tier below um Metroid Fusion for sure I mean I almost feel like I'm insulting mean I almost feel like I'm insulting mean I almost feel like I'm insulting Fusion by having it just one tier below Fusion by having it just one tier below Fusion by having it just one tier below right so that's that's maybe me making right so that's that's maybe me making right so that's that's maybe me making the argument that we should put Fusion the argument that we should put Fusion the argument that we should put Fusion up a tier but um yeah up a tier but um yeah up a tier but um yeah so it it's one of those things where you so it it's one of those things where you so it it's one of those things where you know when you play the game it's hard to know when you play the game it's hard to know when you play the game it's hard to differentiate the environments from what differentiate the environments from what differentiate the environments from what I I've played it I haven't played a lot I I've played it I haven't played a lot I I've played it I haven't played a lot of it um I've played Sam returns and you of it um I've played Sam returns and you of it um I've played Sam returns and you know I have a lot more opinions on that know I have a lot more opinions on that know I have a lot more opinions on that one um so but you know from what I've one um so but you know from what I've one um so but you know from what I've played of it it does feel kind of played of it it does feel kind of played of it it does feel kind of archaic it hasn't aged extremely well it archaic it hasn't aged extremely well it archaic it hasn't aged extremely well it definitely you know is one of those definitely you know is one of those definitely you know is one of those games that needed a remake and so I'm games that needed a remake and so I'm games that needed a remake and so I'm glad Sam returns exist um it's a shame glad Sam returns exist um it's a shame glad Sam returns exist um it's a shame we can only play it on 3DS right now but we can only play it on 3DS right now but we can only play it on 3DS right now but um yeah I mean I honestly I feel like we um yeah I mean I honestly I feel like we um yeah I mean I honestly I feel like we don't have to dwell too much on this I don't have to dwell too much on this I don't have to dwell too much on this I mean we feel free to you know it's your mean we feel free to you know it's your mean we feel free to you know it's your it's your show but I I just kind of feel it's your show but I I just kind of feel it's your show but I I just kind of feel like yeah Metroid 2 it it's definitely like yeah Metroid 2 it it's definitely like yeah Metroid 2 it it's definitely fun but it's also hasn't aged incredibly fun but it's also hasn't aged incredibly fun but it's also hasn't aged incredibly well so it definitely a cut below at well so it definitely a cut below at well so it definitely a cut below at least a cup below Fusion maybe two but

  7. least a cup below Fusion maybe two but least a cup below Fusion maybe two but we'll we'll Circle back to Fusion you we'll we'll Circle back to Fusion you we'll we'll Circle back to Fusion you know one thing I found very surprising know one thing I found very surprising know one thing I found very surprising about Metroid 2 is I recently completed about Metroid 2 is I recently completed about Metroid 2 is I recently completed Samus returns and then I saw some Samus returns and then I saw some Samus returns and then I saw some gameplay of Metroid 2 and then I gameplay of Metroid 2 and then I gameplay of Metroid 2 and then I realized that the spider ball was in the realized that the spider ball was in the realized that the spider ball was in the original Metroid 2 when I like thought original Metroid 2 when I like thought original Metroid 2 when I like thought it was a Samus returns exclusive thing it was a Samus returns exclusive thing it was a Samus returns exclusive thing and I'm like wow that's actually pretty and I'm like wow that's actually pretty and I'm like wow that's actually pretty cool that they yeah actually included cool that they yeah actually included cool that they yeah actually included that in a Game Boy game so that's nice that in a Game Boy game so that's nice that in a Game Boy game so that's nice and then it made like a comeback in and then it made like a comeback in and then it made like a comeback in Metroid Prime later on but um one thing Metroid Prime later on but um one thing Metroid Prime later on but um one thing I wanted to ask you is there a Game Boy I wanted to ask you is there a Game Boy I wanted to ask you is there a Game Boy Color version of Metroid Color version of Metroid Color version of Metroid 2 I think if you play Metro 2 on Game 2 I think if you play Metro 2 on Game 2 I think if you play Metro 2 on Game Boy Color it does have some color like Boy Color it does have some color like Boy Color it does have some color like it just inherently it's not enough to it just inherently it's not enough to it just inherently it's not enough to kind of differentiate where you're going kind of differentiate where you're going kind of differentiate where you're going and stuff I think it helps a little bit and stuff I think it helps a little bit and stuff I think it helps a little bit actually yeah actually yeah actually yeah um yeah your camera's good now yeah yeah um yeah your camera's good now yeah yeah um yeah your camera's good now yeah yeah but yeah I think I think Metroid 2 in D but yeah I think I think Metroid 2 in D but yeah I think I think Metroid 2 in D tier works and yeah I mean I don't like tier works and yeah I mean I don't like tier works and yeah I mean I don't like putting it in D tier because I just putting it in D tier because I just putting it in D tier because I just don't like the sound of D but also it's don't like the sound of D but also it's don't like the sound of D but also it's definitely worse infusion definitely worse infusion definitely worse infusion so I I think that's I think we're we're so I I think that's I think we're we're so I I think that's I think we're we're okay so far I mean maybe you could argue okay so far I mean maybe you could argue okay so far I mean maybe you could argue it should be in the same I don't think it should be in the same I don't think it should be in the same I don't think they're on the same tier I just don't so they're on the same tier I just don't so they're on the same tier I just don't so yeah yeah I think we can move on um this yeah yeah I think we can move on um this yeah yeah I think we can move on um this one's this one's tough f fation Force one's this one's tough f fation Force one's this one's tough f fation Force interesting I have not played Federation interesting I have not played Federation interesting I have not played Federation Force but I remember the announcement Force but I remember the announcement Force but I remember the announcement for Federation force and I was very for Federation force and I was very for Federation force and I was very confused when I saw it I was thoroughly

  8. confused when I saw it I was thoroughly confused when I saw it I was thoroughly thoroughly confused I saw Metroid Prime thoroughly confused I saw Metroid Prime thoroughly confused I saw Metroid Prime Federation force and I was like is this Federation force and I was like is this Federation force and I was like is this like a is this even like a Nintendo game like a is this even like a Nintendo game like a is this even like a Nintendo game like is this like a fan game and then I like is this like a fan game and then I like is this like a fan game and then I looked at it and I was like whoa It's looked at it and I was like whoa It's looked at it and I was like whoa It's actually like a 3DS game why does it actually like a 3DS game why does it actually like a 3DS game why does it look like this and I think a lot of of look like this and I think a lot of of look like this and I think a lot of of the Federation Force um uh discourse the Federation Force um uh discourse the Federation Force um uh discourse comes from it being not the Metroid game comes from it being not the Metroid game comes from it being not the Metroid game that was needed at that time but in that was needed at that time but in that was needed at that time but in hindsight you could be like it was kind hindsight you could be like it was kind hindsight you could be like it was kind of the warm-up to Sam returns and Prime of the warm-up to Sam returns and Prime of the warm-up to Sam returns and Prime 4 and Dread but then of course Prime 4 4 and Dread but then of course Prime 4 4 and Dread but then of course Prime 4 had its whole thing but how was had its whole thing but how was had its whole thing but how was Federation Force as a Federation Force as a Federation Force as a game like without Federation force is game like without Federation force is game like without Federation force is also one of those games one of the few also one of those games one of the few also one of those games one of the few Metroid games I haven't Metroid games I haven't Metroid games I haven't finished um and so like my my problem finished um and so like my my problem finished um and so like my my problem with with Federation Force I actually with with Federation Force I actually with with Federation Force I actually thought the gameplay was good um I thought the gameplay was good um I thought the gameplay was good um I actually really like the concept as well actually really like the concept as well actually really like the concept as well the art style definitely you know was the art style definitely you know was the art style definitely you know was didn't feel Metroid um but my biggest didn't feel Metroid um but my biggest didn't feel Metroid um but my biggest problem with it was just that whenever I problem with it was just that whenever I problem with it was just that whenever I would play it the idea is to P is to would play it the idea is to P is to would play it the idea is to P is to play it with a friend it's a it's built play it with a friend it's a it's built play it with a friend it's a it's built around being a Cooperative game which I around being a Cooperative game which I around being a Cooperative game which I think is really cool in theory but being think is really cool in theory but being think is really cool in theory but being on 3DS right which I don't know I guess on 3DS right which I don't know I guess on 3DS right which I don't know I guess the Wi-Fi cards aren't as good as modern the Wi-Fi cards aren't as good as modern the Wi-Fi cards aren't as good as modern consoles but whenever I would play it my consoles but whenever I would play it my consoles but whenever I would play it my games would drop I I didn't finish games would drop I I didn't finish games would drop I I didn't finish Metroid um Federation for Metro Prime

  9. Metroid um Federation for Metro Prime Metroid um Federation for Metro Prime Federation force not because I didn't Federation force not because I didn't Federation force not because I didn't want to but because every time I tried want to but because every time I tried want to but because every time I tried to play with my friend the games would to play with my friend the games would to play with my friend the games would drop and so I never finished it for that drop and so I never finished it for that drop and so I never finished it for that reason so like I don't know do I should reason so like I don't know do I should reason so like I don't know do I should I judge Federation Force poorly because I judge Federation Force poorly because I judge Federation Force poorly because of the hardware it was on um and just of the hardware it was on um and just of the hardware it was on um and just connection issues or should I you connection issues or should I you connection issues or should I you know know know um for Federation force or do we be are um for Federation force or do we be are um for Federation force or do we be are we going to be nice and give it a we going to be nice and give it a we going to be nice and give it a d I would say it goes in it's a d tier I d I would say it goes in it's a d tier I d I would say it goes in it's a d tier I don't know I how do you think of it don't know I how do you think of it don't know I how do you think of it compared to Metroid 2 compared to Metroid 2 compared to Metroid 2 though well Metroid 2 is definitely a though well Metroid 2 is definitely a though well Metroid 2 is definitely a Metroid game Federation force is also a Metroid game Federation force is also a Metroid game Federation force is also a Metroid game in in in name Metroid game in in in name Metroid game in in in name but uh yeah um I'm going to say d tier but uh yeah um I'm going to say d tier but uh yeah um I'm going to say d tier right I think it's one of those things right I think it's one of those things right I think it's one of those things where like Metroid 2 if it was where like Metroid 2 if it was where like Metroid 2 if it was repurposed for a modern console it would repurposed for a modern console it would repurposed for a modern console it would be a lot better right yeah ironically be a lot better right yeah ironically be a lot better right yeah ironically metro2 repurposing was on 3DS and was a metro2 repurposing was on 3DS and was a metro2 repurposing was on 3DS and was a lot better um and this was also on 3DS lot better um and this was also on 3DS lot better um and this was also on 3DS but I think if they were to like go back but I think if they were to like go back but I think if they were to like go back to the Federation Force formula let's to the Federation Force formula let's to the Federation Force formula let's say a couple years after Prime 4 comes say a couple years after Prime 4 comes say a couple years after Prime 4 comes out it's a massive success and they want out it's a massive success and they want out it's a massive success and they want to kind of like a Halo ODST but for to kind of like a Halo ODST but for to kind of like a Halo ODST but for Metroid you know this Federation the Metroid you know this Federation the Metroid you know this Federation the Federation Force formula with a proper Federation Force formula with a proper Federation Force formula with a proper art style and a solid online art style and a solid online art style and a solid online infrastructure would actually be pretty infrastructure would actually be pretty infrastructure would actually be pretty damn awesome what if that's what we get

  10. damn awesome what if that's what we get damn awesome what if that's what we get in Prime 4 what if like a sub thing like in Prime 4 what if like a sub thing like in Prime 4 what if like a sub thing like I'm for it yeah Metroid Prime 4 is the I'm for it yeah Metroid Prime 4 is the I'm for it yeah Metroid Prime 4 is the single player game and then the sub game single player game and then the sub game single player game and then the sub game or the sub like um play Styles is or the sub like um play Styles is or the sub like um play Styles is Metroid Prime 4 Federation Force Metroid Prime 4 Federation Force Metroid Prime 4 Federation Force something like that that I'm for it yeah something like that that I'm for it yeah something like that that I'm for it yeah that be cool yeah I was hearing some that be cool yeah I was hearing some that be cool yeah I was hearing some other like Nintendo channels talk about other like Nintendo channels talk about other like Nintendo channels talk about it they're like what if there's it they're like what if there's it they're like what if there's multiplayer you get the hunters you get multiplayer you get the hunters you get multiplayer you get the hunters you get to play as all these different hunters to play as all these different hunters to play as all these different hunters from the series and it's like a actual from the series and it's like a actual from the series and it's like a actual online multiplayer shooter which online multiplayer shooter which online multiplayer shooter which competes with Halo and Call of Duty that competes with Halo and Call of Duty that competes with Halo and Call of Duty that would be very interesting I I mean I would be very interesting I I mean I would be very interesting I I mean I guess we'll see we'll see yeah that's guess we'll see we'll see yeah that's guess we'll see we'll see yeah that's one heck of a segue because uh Metro one heck of a segue because uh Metro one heck of a segue because uh Metro Prime hunters was a actual I literally Prime hunters was a actual I literally Prime hunters was a actual I literally had the hunters right um it was like one had the hunters right um it was like one had the hunters right um it was like one of the it was a basically like a hero of the it was a basically like a hero of the it was a basically like a hero shooter right um and it was for Nintendo shooter right um and it was for Nintendo shooter right um and it was for Nintendo one of their like biggest online efforts one of their like biggest online efforts one of their like biggest online efforts early on early on early on yeah I I played the demo very very very yeah I I played the demo very very very yeah I I played the demo very very very long first you know what I almost feel long first you know what I almost feel long first you know what I almost feel like first hunt deserves to have its own like first hunt deserves to have its own like first hunt deserves to have its own yeah listing here because it's its own yeah listing here because it's its own yeah listing here because it's its own thing you can't play first hunt and thing you can't play first hunt and thing you can't play first hunt and Hunters last I checked yeah um it's its Hunters last I checked yeah um it's its Hunters last I checked yeah um it's its own thing it's its own level own thing it's its own level own thing it's its own level and multiplayer yeah um so it's and multiplayer yeah um so it's and multiplayer yeah um so it's different different different mhm I I think I think where you placed mhm I I think I think where you placed mhm I I think I think where you placed it fits perfectly I agree right like

  11. it fits perfectly I agree right like it fits perfectly I agree right like it's it's it's one of those things where it's it's it's one of those things where it's it's it's one of those things where Metro ironically metr Prime hunters I Metro ironically metr Prime hunters I Metro ironically metr Prime hunters I thought had a better online than than thought had a better online than than thought had a better online than than Federation Force um but and that's like Federation Force um but and that's like Federation Force um but and that's like what the game is really built around what the game is really built around what the game is really built around right and so the online stuff is cool right and so the online stuff is cool right and so the online stuff is cool and I think it's a really cool proof of and I think it's a really cool proof of and I think it's a really cool proof of concept we could do for maybe Metro concept we could do for maybe Metro concept we could do for maybe Metro Prime 4 we do based off the job hirings Prime 4 we do based off the job hirings Prime 4 we do based off the job hirings and stuff there's a lot of third you and stuff there's a lot of third you and stuff there's a lot of third you know third party Western talent that know third party Western talent that know third party Western talent that they've hire that has experience with they've hire that has experience with they've hire that has experience with online Shooters like your Call of Duties online Shooters like your Call of Duties online Shooters like your Call of Duties and such and things along those lines so and such and things along those lines so and such and things along those lines so like I think they could put something like I think they could put something like I think they could put something together that would be Hunters esque as together that would be Hunters esque as together that would be Hunters esque as a side option right like they're still a side option right like they're still a side option right like they're still the the the killer U main campaign and I the the the killer U main campaign and I the the the killer U main campaign and I think one of the reasons why Hunters is think one of the reasons why Hunters is think one of the reasons why Hunters is so low here um is because the single so low here um is because the single so low here um is because the single player campaign from the true Prime player campaign from the true Prime player campaign from the true Prime hunters is very weak compared to the hunters is very weak compared to the hunters is very weak compared to the rest of the series even though the rest of the series even though the rest of the series even though the multiplayer is really good um you know multiplayer is really good um you know multiplayer is really good um you know but it's important is single player but it's important is single player but it's important is single player retro did this no they didn't well I retro did this no they didn't well I retro did this no they didn't well I mean they oversaw some things but they mean they oversaw some things but they mean they oversaw some things but they there was I forget the name of the there was I forget the name of the there was I forget the name of the studio um there was another Studio that studio um there was another Studio that studio um there was another Studio that uh also it it used the stylus a lot uh also it it used the stylus a lot uh also it it used the stylus a lot right so was it kind of like a kous right so was it kind of like a kous right so was it kind of like a kous Uprising control Uprising control Uprising control scheme where you hold it with one hand scheme where you hold it with one hand scheme where you hold it with one hand and would use the touch screen to to to and would use the touch screen to to to and would use the touch screen to to to to aim around I remember that yeah to aim around I remember that yeah to aim around I remember that yeah interesting but the thing is they gave interesting but the thing is they gave interesting but the thing is they gave you like um on the DS they had like a a you like um on the DS they had like a a you like um on the DS they had like a a little thumb strap right so like like a little thumb strap right so like like a little thumb strap right so like like a little strap yes the original like yeah little strap yes the original like yeah little strap yes the original like yeah yeah and you would wrap it around your I yeah and you would wrap it around your I yeah and you would wrap it around your I would play like I honestly play like

  12. would play like I honestly play like would play like I honestly play like that a lot and I thought it worked that a lot and I thought it worked that a lot and I thought it worked pretty well so you know I thought it was pretty well so you know I thought it was pretty well so you know I thought it was actually really cool interesting I don't actually really cool interesting I don't actually really cool interesting I don't remember my DS Light ever having that remember my DS Light ever having that remember my DS Light ever having that but that's a it might have been an but that's a it might have been an but that's a it might have been an original DS thing yeah yeah I think it original DS thing yeah yeah I think it original DS thing yeah yeah I think it was the bulk key and the thing is I was the bulk key and the thing is I was the bulk key and the thing is I would use it on my light because I I I would use it on my light because I I I would use it on my light because I I I got a light eventually but I originally got a light eventually but I originally got a light eventually but I originally had a the ogds and that's where I got had a the ogds and that's where I got had a the ogds and that's where I got the strap and I strap it into my light the strap and I strap it into my light the strap and I strap it into my light cool so I'm looking at the name of the cool so I'm looking at the name of the cool so I'm looking at the name of the developer it is um NST actually oh so developer it is um NST actually oh so developer it is um NST actually oh so okay yeah so inh house Nintendo okay yeah so inh house Nintendo okay yeah so inh house Nintendo apparently yeah Co yeah so for our next apparently yeah Co yeah so for our next apparently yeah Co yeah so for our next one we've been going in order on the one we've been going in order on the one we've been going in order on the tier list but I kind of want to switch tier list but I kind of want to switch tier list but I kind of want to switch it up I want to talk about zero Mission it up I want to talk about zero Mission it up I want to talk about zero Mission which is near the end because that is which is near the end because that is which is near the end because that is one game that I have played and you have one game that I have played and you have one game that I have played and you have not so let's uh let's put it let's keep not so let's uh let's put it let's keep not so let's uh let's put it let's keep it in B for now but I want to like tell it in B for now but I want to like tell it in B for now but I want to like tell you what I think about zero Mission sure you what I think about zero Mission sure you what I think about zero Mission sure I love zero Mission I beat it in about 4 I love zero Mission I beat it in about 4 I love zero Mission I beat it in about 4 hours maybe like 2 days it took me to hours maybe like 2 days it took me to hours maybe like 2 days it took me to beat it a few like playthroughs and I beat it a few like playthroughs and I beat it a few like playthroughs and I completed it it was a very very like uh completed it it was a very very like uh completed it it was a very very like uh quick game a very Snappy game it had the quick game a very Snappy game it had the quick game a very Snappy game it had the feeling of fusion but it to me it felt a feeling of fusion but it to me it felt a feeling of fusion but it to me it felt a little nicer and it felt a little better little nicer and it felt a little better little nicer and it felt a little better and I really like that it was a very and I really like that it was a very and I really like that it was a very condensed Super Metroid because you are condensed Super Metroid because you are condensed Super Metroid because you are in zebus you're in the same place you in zebus you're in the same place you in zebus you're in the same place you might be going to the same places might be going to the same places might be going to the same places fighting the same bosses and all that

  13. fighting the same bosses and all that fighting the same bosses and all that but of course since it's a remake of but of course since it's a remake of but of course since it's a remake of Metroid 1 it was a lot more condensed a Metroid 1 it was a lot more condensed a Metroid 1 it was a lot more condensed a lot more streamlined and a lot shorter lot more streamlined and a lot shorter lot more streamlined and a lot shorter of a game of course you don't go to like of a game of course you don't go to like of a game of course you don't go to like the sunken ship and fight what's his the sunken ship and fight what's his the sunken ship and fight what's his name fanton and any of that but you do name fanton and any of that but you do name fanton and any of that but you do fight Ridley you fight Cade you fight fight Ridley you fight Cade you fight fight Ridley you fight Cade you fight motherb brain and then you have this motherb brain and then you have this motherb brain and then you have this cool segment at the end where your Zero cool segment at the end where your Zero cool segment at the end where your Zero Suit Samus and you have like a stealth Suit Samus and you have like a stealth Suit Samus and you have like a stealth segment and it was good but I felt like segment and it was good but I felt like segment and it was good but I felt like at times it kind of overstated swom but at times it kind of overstated swom but at times it kind of overstated swom but it wasn't like a really boring part of it wasn't like a really boring part of it wasn't like a really boring part of the game it was cool because you lose the game it was cool because you lose the game it was cool because you lose your power suit and then you have to your power suit and then you have to your power suit and then you have to kind of do the whole thing where you're kind of do the whole thing where you're kind of do the whole thing where you're like going through this whole space like going through this whole space like going through this whole space pirate uh infested place you get all pirate uh infested place you get all pirate uh infested place you get all your power ups again and then you do the your power ups again and then you do the your power ups again and then you do the whole like Hail Mary thing at the end whole like Hail Mary thing at the end whole like Hail Mary thing at the end where you have like all your power ups where you have like all your power ups where you have like all your power ups destroying all the space pirates and destroying all the space pirates and destroying all the space pirates and then you leave so it was a very like then you leave so it was a very like then you leave so it was a very like condensed very fastpaced kind of good condensed very fastpaced kind of good condensed very fastpaced kind of good short game because I've been playing a short game because I've been playing a short game because I've been playing a lot of like really long RPGs so lot of like really long RPGs so lot of like really long RPGs so sometimes it's nice to just yeah sometimes it's nice to just yeah sometimes it's nice to just yeah um the thing about a lot of Metro games um the thing about a lot of Metro games um the thing about a lot of Metro games is that they are kind of like shorter is that they are kind of like shorter is that they are kind of like shorter yeah um but they're kind of built around yeah um but they're kind of built around yeah um but they're kind of built around replayability oh yeah and so like I it's replayability oh yeah and so like I it's replayability oh yeah and so like I it's also it's actually one of the reasons also it's actually one of the reasons also it's actually one of the reasons why I like Wind Waker a lot more than why I like Wind Waker a lot more than why I like Wind Waker a lot more than other um Zelda games because it is the other um Zelda games because it is the other um Zelda games because it is the shorter shorter which sounds like a

  14. shorter shorter which sounds like a shorter shorter which sounds like a weird thing to say because you think you weird thing to say because you think you weird thing to say because you think you want bigger and and generally I do but want bigger and and generally I do but want bigger and and generally I do but there are exceptions and then it's just there are exceptions and then it's just there are exceptions and then it's just one of those games like it's not a short one of those games like it's not a short one of those games like it's not a short game like there's enough me meat there game like there's enough me meat there game like there's enough me meat there right there's enough there um but you right there's enough there um but you right there's enough there um but you can kind of get through it and be like can kind of get through it and be like can kind of get through it and be like wow that was cool and it's not like a wow that was cool and it's not like a wow that was cool and it's not like a huge investment and then you might do it huge investment and then you might do it huge investment and then you might do it again A year later um so I think there's again A year later um so I think there's again A year later um so I think there's something to that and you know I haven't something to that and you know I haven't something to that and you know I haven't played zero Mission yet so I guess I played zero Mission yet so I guess I played zero Mission yet so I guess I can't really speak on it yeah but I will can't really speak on it yeah but I will can't really speak on it yeah but I will say from what I've heard and from I I say from what I've heard and from I I say from what I've heard and from I I did play fusion and I've beaten fusion did play fusion and I've beaten fusion did play fusion and I've beaten fusion and I really like Fusion I'm G to I'm and I really like Fusion I'm G to I'm and I really like Fusion I'm G to I'm going to I'm going to make my move now going to I'm going to make my move now going to I'm going to make my move now okay I think you know what given that okay I think you know what given that okay I think you know what given that played zero Mission you know I will played zero Mission you know I will played zero Mission you know I will defer um to you saying that it's above defer um to you saying that it's above defer um to you saying that it's above Fusion I'm sure some people will look Fusion I'm sure some people will look Fusion I'm sure some people will look can debate that harder um but I do feel can debate that harder um but I do feel can debate that harder um but I do feel like they deserve to be in the same tier like they deserve to be in the same tier like they deserve to be in the same tier I I I I I would say from what I've seen I I I I I would say from what I've seen I I I I I would say from what I've seen of of Zer Miss heard of other people and of of Zer Miss heard of other people and of of Zer Miss heard of other people and how just good Fusion is as a game I how just good Fusion is as a game I how just good Fusion is as a game I think they should be in the same tier I think they should be in the same tier I think they should be in the same tier I will will will say I will give zero Mission a very high say I will give zero Mission a very high say I will give zero Mission a very high B but I'll give Fusion a little bit of a B but I'll give Fusion a little bit of a B but I'll give Fusion a little bit of a lower a and the reason is is because lower a and the reason is is because lower a and the reason is is because wait you're you're going to put zero wait you're you're going to put zero wait you're you're going to put zero Mission up to a Mission up to a Mission up to a now sorry sorry I I meant no no I meant now sorry sorry I I meant no no I meant now sorry sorry I I meant no no I meant I'll give zero Mission a high B and I'll give zero Mission a high B and I'll give zero Mission a high B and fusion a low B still in the same tier fusion a low B still in the same tier fusion a low B still in the same tier but zero Mission gets the high end of it but zero Mission gets the high end of it but zero Mission gets the high end of it and fusion gets the lower end of it and and fusion gets the lower end of it and and fusion gets the lower end of it and the reason is because zero Mission does

  15. the reason is because zero Mission does the reason is because zero Mission does a thing that Fusion does where it's like a thing that Fusion does where it's like a thing that Fusion does where it's like oh you've reached this area now go to oh you've reached this area now go to oh you've reached this area now go to this area but it doesn't it in a more this area but it doesn't it in a more this area but it doesn't it in a more subtle way I don't want to tell you much subtle way I don't want to tell you much subtle way I don't want to tell you much about it because you'll get to about it because you'll get to about it because you'll get to experience it yourself but it kind of experience it yourself but it kind of experience it yourself but it kind of tells you where to go but in a very tells you where to go but in a very tells you where to go but in a very subtle way and you still have to use subtle way and you still have to use subtle way and you still have to use your like Metroid brain problem your like Metroid brain problem your like Metroid brain problem solving St that they throw in there too solving St that they throw in there too solving St that they throw in there too right huh pardon what you say some cool right huh pardon what you say some cool right huh pardon what you say some cool lore stuff they throw in there for yeah lore stuff they throw in there for yeah lore stuff they throw in there for yeah yeah some cool choso stuff they throw in yeah some cool choso stuff they throw in yeah some cool choso stuff they throw in there and the whole like the art there and the whole like the art there and the whole like the art direction for zero mission is very good direction for zero mission is very good direction for zero mission is very good as well I really really really love the as well I really really really love the as well I really really really love the art direction for I'm waiting for for art direction for I'm waiting for for art direction for I'm waiting for for them to add to NSO like I I've been I've them to add to NSO like I I've been I've them to add to NSO like I I've been I've been anticipating that announcement for been anticipating that announcement for been anticipating that announcement for a while I I was hoping that's what the a while I I was hoping that's what the a while I I was hoping that's what the recent NSO announcement would be but I recent NSO announcement would be but I recent NSO announcement would be but I mean I'm glad it was Golden Sun right mean I'm glad it was Golden Sun right mean I'm glad it was Golden Sun right yeah it was like the next best thing yeah it was like the next best thing yeah it was like the next best thing yeah um so I'm very excited to try those yeah um so I'm very excited to try those yeah um so I'm very excited to try those out two of them so that that's that's out two of them so that that's that's out two of them so that that's that's pretty special oh yeah yeah but yeah um pretty special oh yeah yeah but yeah um pretty special oh yeah yeah but yeah um Zer mission is fantastic I think you'll Zer mission is fantastic I think you'll Zer mission is fantastic I think you'll really like it especially if you're a really like it especially if you're a really like it especially if you're a fan of super and it's literally the only fan of super and it's literally the only fan of super and it's literally the only Metroid game I have not played mhm yeah Metroid game I have not played mhm yeah Metroid game I have not played mhm yeah all right we can continue on so here's a all right we can continue on so here's a all right we can continue on so here's a very fun fact about myself Metro Prime 3 very fun fact about myself Metro Prime 3 very fun fact about myself Metro Prime 3 is next and Metro Prime 3 was actually is next and Metro Prime 3 was actually is next and Metro Prime 3 was actually my very first Metroid game that I've my very first Metroid game that I've my very first Metroid game that I've ever played I have not completed it but ever played I have not completed it but ever played I have not completed it but here is the story about Metro Prime 3 here is the story about Metro Prime 3 here is the story about Metro Prime 3 when I was 13 me and my friend were like when I was 13 me and my friend were like when I was 13 me and my friend were like just out with my friend's dad in the

  16. just out with my friend's dad in the just out with my friend's dad in the mall and we were like oh let's go to mall and we were like oh let's go to mall and we were like oh let's go to GameStop let's see what they have there GameStop let's see what they have there GameStop let's see what they have there and we saw like the PS3 Wii 360 games and we saw like the PS3 Wii 360 games and we saw like the PS3 Wii 360 games and then I saw Metroid Prime 3 and I was and then I saw Metroid Prime 3 and I was and then I saw Metroid Prime 3 and I was like hey this is Metroid like this is like hey this is Metroid like this is like hey this is Metroid like this is Samus from Super Smash Bros brawl like Samus from Super Smash Bros brawl like Samus from Super Smash Bros brawl like oh this is the Metroid Prime game that oh this is the Metroid Prime game that oh this is the Metroid Prime game that I've heard so many people talk about and I've heard so many people talk about and I've heard so many people talk about and then my friend's dad was like oh I I'll then my friend's dad was like oh I I'll then my friend's dad was like oh I I'll just get you this game if you enjoy it just get you this game if you enjoy it just get you this game if you enjoy it so much and I was like oh thanks so I so much and I was like oh thanks so I so much and I was like oh thanks so I came home I played it and I was still in came home I played it and I was still in came home I played it and I was still in the Zelda mood I was like Sky swur the Zelda mood I was like Sky swur the Zelda mood I was like Sky swur Twilight Princess Wind Waker all that Twilight Princess Wind Waker all that Twilight Princess Wind Waker all that this was my first ever this was my first ever this was my first ever like mature Nintendo game cuz I had like like mature Nintendo game cuz I had like like mature Nintendo game cuz I had like Twilight Prince when I had Twilight Twilight Prince when I had Twilight Twilight Prince when I had Twilight Princess I was like oh it's so dark and Princess I was like oh it's so dark and Princess I was like oh it's so dark and gritty and like badass and then I played gritty and like badass and then I played gritty and like badass and then I played Metro Prime 3 and I was like oh it's Metro Prime 3 and I was like oh it's Metro Prime 3 and I was like oh it's like a first person shooter it's like like a first person shooter it's like like a first person shooter it's like Halo and I never played Halo or Call of Halo and I never played Halo or Call of Halo and I never played Halo or Call of Duty so I was like oh it's so cool it's Duty so I was like oh it's so cool it's Duty so I was like oh it's so cool it's one of the cool Nintendo games and I one of the cool Nintendo games and I one of the cool Nintendo games and I played it and I really enjoyed the played it and I really enjoyed the played it and I really enjoyed the beginning I with this yeah with the beginning I with this yeah with the beginning I with this yeah with the what's that it's the um other space what's that it's the um other space what's that it's the um other space pirates I think it was like rundus Gore pirates I think it was like rundus Gore pirates I think it was like rundus Gore and gendr or something hunters yeah yeah and gendr or something hunters yeah yeah and gendr or something hunters yeah yeah the hunters yeah yeah the hunters yeah yeah the hunters yeah yeah yeah the hunters those are cool um the yeah the hunters those are cool um the yeah the hunters those are cool um the voice acting was interesting I was like voice acting was interesting I was like voice acting was interesting I was like oh it's interesting to see voice acting oh it's interesting to see voice acting oh it's interesting to see voice acting in a Nintendo game nice to see the in a Nintendo game nice to see the in a Nintendo game nice to see the Ridley fight in the beginning I I very Ridley fight in the beginning I I very Ridley fight in the beginning I I very vividly remember the Berserker Lord and vividly remember the Berserker Lord and vividly remember the Berserker Lord and the Ridley fight those were very iconic the Ridley fight those were very iconic the Ridley fight those were very iconic fights yeah they're they they had some fights yeah they're they they had some fights yeah they're they they had some pretty good like show pieces uh for the pretty good like show pieces uh for the pretty good like show pieces uh for the like they're like the game's a linear

  17. like they're like the game's a linear like they're like the game's a linear the prime that this is I I think um of the prime that this is I I think um of the prime that this is I I think um of the three Metro Prime like it's not a the three Metro Prime like it's not a the three Metro Prime like it's not a think it's a fact like metri Prime 3 is think it's a fact like metri Prime 3 is think it's a fact like metri Prime 3 is very linear um comparison to those two very linear um comparison to those two very linear um comparison to those two um but you know I did enjoy those first um but you know I did enjoy those first um but you know I did enjoy those first two levels like just because it was two levels like just because it was two levels like just because it was linear doesn't I I still enjoyed it linear doesn't I I still enjoyed it linear doesn't I I still enjoyed it right like linear isn't necessarily right like linear isn't necessarily right like linear isn't necessarily worse um it's not too much of the worse um it's not too much of the worse um it's not too much of the Metroid formula right like but those Metroid formula right like but those Metroid formula right like but those first two levels were pretty awesome first two levels were pretty awesome first two levels were pretty awesome yeah it was a very cinematic kind of yeah it was a very cinematic kind of yeah it was a very cinematic kind of experience because that friend who I was experience because that friend who I was experience because that friend who I was with he was a huge Halo fan and he saw with he was a huge Halo fan and he saw with he was a huge Halo fan and he saw me playing this and he was like wao this me playing this and he was like wao this me playing this and he was like wao this stuff is on the Wii wao this so cool it stuff is on the Wii wao this so cool it stuff is on the Wii wao this so cool it looks like Hal and I was like yeah it's looks like Hal and I was like yeah it's looks like Hal and I was like yeah it's amazing but I will say I did the intro amazing but I will say I did the intro amazing but I will say I did the intro and then I went to the I I I know and then I went to the I I I know and then I went to the I I I know exactly where I stopped I stopped at the exactly where I stopped I stopped at the exactly where I stopped I stopped at the rundus boss battle in Brio I think that rundus boss battle in Brio I think that rundus boss battle in Brio I think that was the planet Brio did it send you into was the planet Brio did it send you into was the planet Brio did it send you into depression I no I just couldn't beat him depression I no I just couldn't beat him depression I no I just couldn't beat him I I didn't know like what I I now know I I didn't know like what I I now know I I didn't know like what I I now know like more of what happens in the game like more of what happens in the game like more of what happens in the game but I just couldn't beat this guy I but I just couldn't beat this guy I but I just couldn't beat this guy I remember it was it was exactly the remember it was it was exactly the remember it was it was exactly the rundus boss in Brio and I could never rundus boss in Brio and I could never rundus boss in Brio and I could never beat him and then I was like I'm getting beat him and then I was like I'm getting beat him and then I was like I'm getting bored of this I don't like firstperson bored of this I don't like firstperson bored of this I don't like firstperson shooter games I'm going to continue shooter games I'm going to continue shooter games I'm going to continue Skyward Sword and then I continue skyro Skyward Sword and then I continue skyro Skyward Sword and then I continue skyro sword and then I never played a Metroid sword and then I never played a Metroid sword and then I never played a Metroid game game game until until until 2019 when I played Super Metroid and 2019 when I played Super Metroid and 2019 when I played Super Metroid and then like even then I wasn't hooked on

  18. then like even then I wasn't hooked on then like even then I wasn't hooked on Metroid until shortly before Metroid Metroid until shortly before Metroid Metroid until shortly before Metroid dread in 2021 dread in 2021 dread in 2021 so yeah that that's my story with Prime so yeah that that's my story with Prime so yeah that that's my story with Prime 3 I enjoyed what I played but I still 3 I enjoyed what I played but I still 3 I enjoyed what I played but I still haven't completed it it is the only haven't completed it it is the only haven't completed it it is the only Prime game I haven't completed till the Prime game I haven't completed till the Prime game I haven't completed till the end and I want to go back and finish it end and I want to go back and finish it end and I want to go back and finish it however I can because I I'm I'm Holding however I can because I I'm I'm Holding however I can because I I'm I'm Holding Out for a switch release but we'll see I Out for a switch release but we'll see I Out for a switch release but we'll see I have other ways to play it though like have other ways to play it though like have other ways to play it though like wiu sitting right any of where we place wiu sitting right any of where we place wiu sitting right any of where we place this game but I'm going to just be frank this game but I'm going to just be frank this game but I'm going to just be frank with you I think anything short of a with you I think anything short of a with you I think anything short of a would be insulting would be insulting would be insulting yeah yeah we'll give it an a I mean if yeah yeah we'll give it an a I mean if yeah yeah we'll give it an a I mean if you want to argue B I mean I I can see I you want to argue B I mean I I can see I you want to argue B I mean I I can see I can see how some people would argue can see how some people would argue can see how some people would argue Prime 3 is a b but I think it's it's Prime 3 is a b but I think it's it's Prime 3 is a b but I think it's it's it's a it's a it's a tier I would have to see how it ends up tier I would have to see how it ends up tier I would have to see how it ends up ranking in my ranking in my ranking in my personal favorites once I beat it but I personal favorites once I beat it but I personal favorites once I beat it but I think I will enjoy it I I don't think think I will enjoy it I I don't think think I will enjoy it I I don't think I'll enjoy it more than two in one I'll enjoy it more than two in one I'll enjoy it more than two in one though so we'll give it an a I can see though so we'll give it an a I can see though so we'll give it an a I can see have too many just like I I think we're have too many just like I I think we're have too many just like I I think we're like what we're sort of thinking is like what we're sort of thinking is like what we're sort of thinking is fairly aligned here um yeah Metro Prime fairly aligned here um yeah Metro Prime fairly aligned here um yeah Metro Prime 3 is awesome um you know I I cried when 3 is awesome um you know I I cried when 3 is awesome um you know I I cried when I beat that game for the first time and I beat that game for the first time and I beat that game for the first time and then I started playing hyper mode and then I started playing hyper mode and then I started playing hyper mode and Hyper mode was really challenging um I Hyper mode was really challenging um I Hyper mode was really challenging um I did love the Cinematic approach I did love the Cinematic approach I did love the Cinematic approach I thought the motion controls were a cool thought the motion controls were a cool thought the motion controls were a cool novelty um and you know it was fun U I novelty um and you know it was fun U I novelty um and you know it was fun U I will say that I think that you know the

  19. will say that I think that you know the will say that I think that you know the future of like Shooters is not what the future of like Shooters is not what the future of like Shooters is not what the Wii controls were right that was Wii controls were right that was Wii controls were right that was definitely like a a side thing I know definitely like a a side thing I know definitely like a a side thing I know some people really like the IR pointer some people really like the IR pointer some people really like the IR pointer and it was cool um but I whenever I and it was cool um but I whenever I and it was cool um but I whenever I revisit it it always feels like it's revisit it it always feels like it's revisit it it always feels like it's always a mess to kind of set up the always a mess to kind of set up the always a mess to kind of set up the sensor bar and the wi remote um I mean sensor bar and the wi remote um I mean sensor bar and the wi remote um I mean if you get your setup right it's good if you get your setup right it's good if you get your setup right it's good but it's just not convenient to have but it's just not convenient to have but it's just not convenient to have that set up all the time right I really that set up all the time right I really that set up all the time right I really just prefer Pro Controller and with that just prefer Pro Controller and with that just prefer Pro Controller and with that third access of of of of movement with third access of of of of movement with third access of of of of movement with the gyro right so you have you know your the gyro right so you have you know your the gyro right so you have you know your your left stick your right stick and your left stick your right stick and your left stick your right stick and then the gyro and in conjunction all of then the gyro and in conjunction all of then the gyro and in conjunction all of that you can move and look around pretty that you can move and look around pretty that you can move and look around pretty well yeah um and so I think that's like well yeah um and so I think that's like well yeah um and so I think that's like the standard right and so I guess what the standard right and so I guess what the standard right and so I guess what I'm saying is I it's almost like I'm I'm I'm saying is I it's almost like I'm I'm I'm saying is I it's almost like I'm I'm I'm giving uh Prime 3 a little bit of a I'm giving uh Prime 3 a little bit of a I'm giving uh Prime 3 a little bit of a of a comp because it have motion of a comp because it have motion of a comp because it have motion controls even though it's also kind of controls even though it's also kind of controls even though it's also kind of like what sets it apart at the same time like what sets it apart at the same time like what sets it apart at the same time um I mean I I said I suggested a tier um I mean I I said I suggested a tier um I mean I I said I suggested a tier right so I'm not really speaking too ill right so I'm not really speaking too ill right so I'm not really speaking too ill of it I think the game has a lot of of it I think the game has a lot of of it I think the game has a lot of amazing bosses and beautiful locals but amazing bosses and beautiful locals but amazing bosses and beautiful locals but also because of how linear it feels and also because of how linear it feels and also because of how linear it feels and I I got I just got to say man like I I I got I just got to say man like I I I got I just got to say man like I really I really did not like that they really I really did not like that they really I really did not like that they just went with a singular beam style I just went with a singular beam style I just went with a singular beam style I missed the the stat the the um the beams missed the the stat the the um the beams missed the the stat the the um the beams where you can change them around where you can change them around where you can change them around interesting so you only have the power interesting so you only have the power interesting so you only have the power beam throughout the entire game is that beam throughout the entire game is that beam throughout the entire game is that what it is yes uh so what's cool about what it is yes uh so what's cool about what it is yes uh so what's cool about Prime 3 is that you do have different Prime 3 is that you do have different Prime 3 is that you do have different abilities like your missiles get better abilities like your missiles get better abilities like your missiles get better um H you do you can enter hyper mode um H you do you can enter hyper mode um H you do you can enter hyper mode right so that's kind of like an alter

  20. right so that's kind of like an alter right so that's kind of like an alter alternative way it is it's a temporary alternative way it is it's a temporary alternative way it is it's a temporary power boost and it's really cool power boost and it's really cool power boost and it's really cool actually hyper Mo was a cool actually hyper Mo was a cool actually hyper Mo was a cool functionality and then you also could do functionality and then you also could do functionality and then you also could do more stuff with your grapple beam like more stuff with your grapple beam like more stuff with your grapple beam like pulling off Shields and and energy pulling off Shields and and energy pulling off Shields and and energy draining so they gave you a lot of cool draining so they gave you a lot of cool draining so they gave you a lot of cool new mechanics that I appreciated and you new mechanics that I appreciated and you new mechanics that I appreciated and you know they there was a screw attack we know they there was a screw attack we know they there was a screw attack we got that in Prime two as well got that in Prime two as well got that in Prime two as well um so but I I just I I missed um um so but I I just I I missed um um so but I I just I I missed um changing around the beam so what would changing around the beam so what would changing around the beam so what would happen is your beam would just upgrade happen is your beam would just upgrade happen is your beam would just upgrade the same way it does it works in the 2D the same way it does it works in the 2D the same way it does it works in the 2D Metro games where just gets stronger Metro games where just gets stronger Metro games where just gets stronger that's that's all they did but first that's that's all they did but first that's that's all they did but first person okay that's not that bad not bad person okay that's not that bad not bad person okay that's not that bad not bad it's just kind of like if but we're it's just kind of like if but we're it's just kind of like if but we're going to be split in hairs here right going to be split in hairs here right going to be split in hairs here right because we're talking about really good because we're talking about really good because we're talking about really good games um and you know Prime three is a games um and you know Prime three is a games um and you know Prime three is a tier I guess what I'm saying is it's a tier I guess what I'm saying is it's a tier I guess what I'm saying is it's a tier but I I I I anticipate putting a tier but I I I I anticipate putting a tier but I I I I anticipate putting a couple things above this game oh yeah I couple things above this game oh yeah I couple things above this game oh yeah I think um especially in metr primam one think um especially in metr primam one think um especially in metr primam one and two bosses switching beams In the and two bosses switching beams In the and two bosses switching beams In the Heat of the Moment is always kind of fun Heat of the Moment is always kind of fun Heat of the Moment is always kind of fun as well as annoying as it can be as well as annoying as it can be as well as annoying as it can be sometimes it is still fun I think the sometimes it is still fun I think the sometimes it is still fun I think the remaster um like they I I think there remaster um like they I I think there remaster um like they I I think there there could have been a better way to there could have been a better way to there could have been a better way to handle it and I'm optimistic that they handle it and I'm optimistic that they handle it and I'm optimistic that they will find better solutions for Prime 4 will find better solutions for Prime 4 will find better solutions for Prime 4 because it's like actually a game that because it's like actually a game that because it's like actually a game that they're you know building with modern they're you know building with modern they're you know building with modern standards in mind and and all of that um standards in mind and and all of that um standards in mind and and all of that um but uh I'm ready to move on to Other M but uh I'm ready to move on to Other M but uh I'm ready to move on to Other M yeah uh tell me all about Other M I

  21. yeah uh tell me all about Other M I yeah uh tell me all about Other M I don't think I will end up playing this don't think I will end up playing this don't think I will end up playing this game other games that I have not played game other games that I have not played game other games that I have not played I'm do you still have interested in I'm do you still have interested in I'm do you still have interested in actually I wouldn't say I'll will never actually I wouldn't say I'll will never actually I wouldn't say I'll will never play other you should play it I think I play other you should play it I think I play other you should play it I think I might should um honestly I I think Other might should um honestly I I think Other might should um honestly I I think Other M gets a bad rap I think it's s tier yes M gets a bad rap I think it's s tier yes M gets a bad rap I think it's s tier yes yes I'm kidding giving it the love that yes I'm kidding giving it the love that yes I'm kidding giving it the love that it deserves but um well I I actually do it deserves but um well I I actually do it deserves but um well I I actually do Like Other Like Other Like Other M more than the games in D tier I think M more than the games in D tier I think M more than the games in D tier I think it's a c tier game um and let me make it's a c tier game um and let me make it's a c tier game um and let me make let me make the argument for it let me make the argument for it let me make the argument for it so game than Metroid 2 I'll say that um so game than Metroid 2 I'll say that um so game than Metroid 2 I'll say that um I I'll say so first off back on the Wii I I'll say so first off back on the Wii I I'll say so first off back on the Wii graphically game was super impressive graphically game was super impressive graphically game was super impressive like this game had a budget you know for like this game had a budget you know for like this game had a budget you know for for the time it looked it was pretty for the time it looked it was pretty for the time it looked it was pretty impressive um and you know it's it's impressive um and you know it's it's impressive um and you know it's it's kind of unique right cuz it's it's not kind of unique right cuz it's it's not kind of unique right cuz it's it's not quite like the the Metroid Prime games quite like the the Metroid Prime games quite like the the Metroid Prime games it's not quite a sidescrolling Metroid it's not quite a sidescrolling Metroid it's not quite a sidescrolling Metroid game either it's its own thing um it's game either it's its own thing um it's game either it's its own thing um it's kind of like taking the 2D Metroid games kind of like taking the 2D Metroid games kind of like taking the 2D Metroid games and putting them into 3D like more it's and putting them into 3D like more it's and putting them into 3D like more it's other a Mario 3D Land situation kind of other a Mario 3D Land situation kind of other a Mario 3D Land situation kind of yeah yeah actually um and so you know yeah yeah actually um and so you know yeah yeah actually um and so you know it's interesting CU they tried to it's interesting CU they tried to it's interesting CU they tried to incorporate the first person element as incorporate the first person element as incorporate the first person element as well um and they made a weird decision well um and they made a weird decision well um and they made a weird decision right so back um on the Nintendo Wii you right so back um on the Nintendo Wii you right so back um on the Nintendo Wii you would typically most of your core games would typically most of your core games would typically most of your core games right you would play with the we remote

  22. right you would play with the we remote right you would play with the we remote holding it vertically and the nunchuck holding it vertically and the nunchuck holding it vertically and the nunchuck right and then that would connect and so right and then that would connect and so right and then that would connect and so that would kind of offer your sort of that would kind of offer your sort of that would kind of offer your sort of pretty much standard style controls of pretty much standard style controls of pretty much standard style controls of course we were missing one analog stick course we were missing one analog stick course we were missing one analog stick but whatever that was just that's just but whatever that was just that's just but whatever that was just that's just the way things were on the Wii um and so the way things were on the Wii um and so the way things were on the Wii um and so it was pretty cool but for Other M given it was pretty cool but for Other M given it was pretty cool but for Other M given that it was more it was very much in that it was more it was very much in that it was more it was very much in line with a lot of 2D metri games there line with a lot of 2D metri games there line with a lot of 2D metri games there weren't that many budding combinations weren't that many budding combinations weren't that many budding combinations and they were and they decided to to and they were and they decided to to and they were and they decided to to have you play the game side with the we have you play the game side with the we have you play the game side with the we remote sideways right so you would have remote sideways right so you would have remote sideways right so you would have the you have the the d-pad to the left the you have the the d-pad to the left the you have the the d-pad to the left um you had the A and B butt you can um you had the A and B butt you can um you had the A and B butt you can press and the one and two buttons I press and the one and two buttons I press and the one and two buttons I think I don't remember what plus or think I don't remember what plus or think I don't remember what plus or minus did but that there wasn't that minus did but that there wasn't that minus did but that there wasn't that many button options you didn't need them many button options you didn't need them many button options you didn't need them um and so you played like the game like um and so you played like the game like um and so you played like the game like that as if you were playing kind of like that as if you were playing kind of like that as if you were playing kind of like like an old school Metroid game and so like an old school Metroid game and so like an old school Metroid game and so from that perspective it was kind of a from that perspective it was kind of a from that perspective it was kind of a neat novelty but um there was this other neat novelty but um there was this other neat novelty but um there was this other cool mechanic that that they impl mented cool mechanic that that they impl mented cool mechanic that that they impl mented where you could switch from you know the where you could switch from you know the where you could switch from you know the third person style um into first person third person style um into first person third person style um into first person mode which is actually really cool so mode which is actually really cool so mode which is actually really cool so you can switch into firsters mode you you can switch into firsters mode you you can switch into firsters mode you see everything from obviously a see everything from obviously a see everything from obviously a different perspective literally and you different perspective literally and you different perspective literally and you could shoot around and aim and see the could shoot around and aim and see the could shoot around and aim and see the world in a different way and it was a world in a different way and it was a world in a different way and it was a very cool thing that they did but the very cool thing that they did but the very cool thing that they did but the way you would do it is by changing from way you would do it is by changing from way you would do it is by changing from side by Yeah by changing from sideways side by Yeah by changing from sideways side by Yeah by changing from sideways to vertically and aiming around which to vertically and aiming around which to vertically and aiming around which was was was just it was annoying going to do that just it was annoying going to do that just it was annoying going to do that like if you're holding the game like

  23. like if you're holding the game like like if you're holding the game like this and then you have to let go this and then you have to let go this and then you have to let go and like that that t it takes away from and like that that t it takes away from and like that that t it takes away from the immersion right it breaks it breaks the immersion right it breaks it breaks the immersion right it breaks it breaks my my my engagement and immersement and my my my engagement and immersement and my my my engagement and immersement and and immersement my brain immersement my brain is immersion right it breaks away my is immersion right it breaks away my is immersion right it breaks away my immersion um but anyways immersion um but anyways immersion um but anyways um that part wasn't amazing and then um that part wasn't amazing and then um that part wasn't amazing and then there was other that this is other part there was other that this is other part there was other that this is other part where like there are certain moments in where like there are certain moments in where like there are certain moments in the game where you would the you you you the game where you would the you you you the game where you would the you you you wouldn't be able to progress at all or wouldn't be able to progress at all or wouldn't be able to progress at all or back out you would have to search on back out you would have to search on back out you would have to search on screen for something going on like screen for something going on like screen for something going on like basically you know where's Waldo like basically you know where's Waldo like basically you know where's Waldo like the books where you have to find the guy the books where you have to find the guy the books where you have to find the guy with a red and white striped shirt with a red and white striped shirt with a red and white striped shirt somewhere in this big picture with a somewhere in this big picture with a somewhere in this big picture with a whole bunch of things they would whole bunch of things they would whole bunch of things they would basically do that in other am a few basically do that in other am a few basically do that in other am a few different times and there was a couple different times and there was a couple different times and there was a couple times I was stuck there for hours and times I was stuck there for hours and times I was stuck there for hours and you and and like you just you basically you and and like you just you basically you and and like you just you basically just have the point at something that just have the point at something that just have the point at something that seems not so obvious oh there it is and seems not so obvious oh there it is and seems not so obvious oh there it is and so I think that that definitely needed so I think that that definitely needed so I think that that definitely needed some tweaking cuz that was really some tweaking cuz that was really some tweaking cuz that was really annoying um and so there were those annoying um and so there were those annoying um and so there were those weird decisions that I think kind of weird decisions that I think kind of weird decisions that I think kind of hampered the game plus the divisive hampered the game plus the divisive hampered the game plus the divisive story I think they you know they made story I think they you know they made story I think they you know they made Sam a little bit too emotional and there Sam a little bit too emotional and there Sam a little bit too emotional and there there's a lot of opinions on that that there's a lot of opinions on that that there's a lot of opinions on that that was the biggest thing for me CU I've was the biggest thing for me CU I've was the biggest thing for me CU I've seen a lot of I wouldn't say yeah it's seen a lot of I wouldn't say yeah it's seen a lot of I wouldn't say yeah it's it's a lot of discourse on how they it's a lot of discourse on how they it's a lot of discourse on how they handled the story of that game because handled the story of that game because handled the story of that game because Samus just doesn't really feel like

  24. Samus just doesn't really feel like Samus just doesn't really feel like Samus Adam wasn't what people thought Samus Adam wasn't what people thought Samus Adam wasn't what people thought Adam would be like Adam would be like Adam would be like um how Sam had to wait for Adam's um how Sam had to wait for Adam's um how Sam had to wait for Adam's permission to use all her items and all permission to use all her items and all permission to use all her items and all that it just didn't it just fell out of that it just didn't it just fell out of that it just didn't it just fell out of character yeah yeah um but the game play character yeah yeah um but the game play character yeah yeah um but the game play you know outside of those those weird you know outside of those those weird you know outside of those those weird moments game play is actually really moments game play is actually really moments game play is actually really good like moving around using the speed good like moving around using the speed good like moving around using the speed booster using different slowly Talking booster using different slowly Talking booster using different slowly Talking Sam different abilities it was a Metroid Sam different abilities it was a Metroid Sam different abilities it was a Metroid Vania there was backtracking where you Vania there was backtracking where you Vania there was backtracking where you could do different things and there were could do different things and there were could do different things and there were some amazing boss fights the game looked some amazing boss fights the game looked some amazing boss fights the game looked really cool um like samis had some really cool um like samis had some really cool um like samis had some awesome powers like and she could like awesome powers like and she could like awesome powers like and she could like grapple and throw enemies like it was grapple and throw enemies like it was grapple and throw enemies like it was the game was cinematic and it was badass the game was cinematic and it was badass the game was cinematic and it was badass um but because of those issues because um but because of those issues because um but because of those issues because of the annoyances because of the story of the annoyances because of the story of the annoyances because of the story problems you know I think I think C rank problems you know I think I think C rank problems you know I think I think C rank is is where I think good I I think it is is where I think good I I think it is is where I think good I I think it would be interesting if they revisit would be interesting if they revisit would be interesting if they revisit this kind of style in like a 2.5 this kind of style in like a 2.5 this kind of style in like a 2.5 isometric kind of I'm not opposed to it isometric kind of I'm not opposed to it isometric kind of I'm not opposed to it I guess the challenge is imagine if I guess the challenge is imagine if I guess the challenge is imagine if Metroid 6 is like that whatever Mercury Metroid 6 is like that whatever Mercury Metroid 6 is like that whatever Mercury steam does steam does steam does next but it's better and it doesn't like next but it's better and it doesn't like next but it's better and it doesn't like have weird like puzzle solving weird have weird like puzzle solving weird have weird like puzzle solving weird control schemes but it's in terms of I control schemes but it's in terms of I control schemes but it's in terms of I think what I prefer is that they stick think what I prefer is that they stick think what I prefer is that they stick with 2D but Metroid dread does have with 2D but Metroid dread does have with 2D but Metroid dread does have those moments where it pulls behind the

  25. those moments where it pulls behind the those moments where it pulls behind the shoulder there's even some uh uh you shoulder there's even some uh uh you shoulder there's even some uh uh you know cut scenes where you see in first know cut scenes where you see in first know cut scenes where you see in first person maybe it Blended a few more person maybe it Blended a few more person maybe it Blended a few more elements like that where you do see elements like that where you do see elements like that where you do see sometimes go into like a third person sometimes go into like a third person sometimes go into like a third person mode like I'm okay with a little bit mode like I'm okay with a little bit mode like I'm okay with a little bit more of a hybridization but I think they more of a hybridization but I think they more of a hybridization but I think they should still keep like that 2D Metroid should still keep like that 2D Metroid should still keep like that 2D Metroid gameplay um but I mean I I'm I'm not gameplay um but I mean I I'm I'm not gameplay um but I mean I I'm I'm not against with you know taking some cues against with you know taking some cues against with you know taking some cues from the other from the good parts of from the other from the good parts of from the other from the good parts of other R you know and implementing them other R you know and implementing them other R you know and implementing them into future Metroid games and yeah I into future Metroid games and yeah I into future Metroid games and yeah I mean I think you're right there is a mean I think you're right there is a mean I think you're right there is a there is kind of like a place where we there is kind of like a place where we there is kind of like a place where we could have this as well but it's kind of could have this as well but it's kind of could have this as well but it's kind of like it would be like a third pillar of like it would be like a third pillar of like it would be like a third pillar of Metroid and the thing is when you kind Metroid and the thing is when you kind Metroid and the thing is when you kind of look at Metroid right now like let's of look at Metroid right now like let's of look at Metroid right now like let's just get Metroid Prime 4 out you know um just get Metroid Prime 4 out you know um just get Metroid Prime 4 out you know um and then let's see where we go from and then let's see where we go from and then let's see where we go from there because like we don't even have a there because like we don't even have a there because like we don't even have a third pillar of of uh Zelda right now third pillar of of uh Zelda right now third pillar of of uh Zelda right now we're still waiting on that on the on we're still waiting on that on the on we're still waiting on that on the on the 2D U um Zelda so oh although the 2D U um Zelda so oh although the 2D U um Zelda so oh although actually you could argue we do have actually you could argue we do have actually you could argue we do have there is an argument made for third there is an argument made for third there is an argument made for third pillars out now we have we have well no pillars out now we have we have well no pillars out now we have we have well no I was going to I I'm talking more like I was going to I I'm talking more like I was going to I I'm talking more like Mainline games right so like because you Mainline games right so like because you Mainline games right so like because you know Mario then has a million pillars oh know Mario then has a million pillars oh know Mario then has a million pillars oh yeah I'm talk I'm just talking about yeah I'm talk I'm just talking about yeah I'm talk I'm just talking about Mainline games so what I mean is like we Mainline games so what I mean is like we Mainline games so what I mean is like we have um obviously you know top down have um obviously you know top down have um obviously you know top down Zelda right but then you also have now Zelda right but then you also have now Zelda right but then you also have now open air Zelda but the thing is before open air Zelda but the thing is before open air Zelda but the thing is before open air Zelda there was 3D Zelda that open air Zelda there was 3D Zelda that open air Zelda there was 3D Zelda that you know was a little linear right so you know was a little linear right so you know was a little linear right so and a lot of fans missed that so that and a lot of fans missed that so that and a lot of fans missed that so that could arguably be a third pillar they're could arguably be a third pillar they're could arguably be a third pillar they're not going to do people not going to do people not going to do people of wild and tears of theom may not be

  26. of wild and tears of theom may not be of wild and tears of theom may not be from a link to the past and stuff was from a link to the past and stuff was from a link to the past and stuff was more Twi princess Time stuff yeah and so more Twi princess Time stuff yeah and so more Twi princess Time stuff yeah and so you know what's most likely going to you know what's most likely going to you know what's most likely going to happen though is they're just going to happen though is they're just going to happen though is they're just going to take some ideas from that hypothetical take some ideas from that hypothetical take some ideas from that hypothetical third pillar just Implement them into third pillar just Implement them into third pillar just Implement them into future games right and so that's the future games right and so that's the future games right and so that's the same argument making for Other M cool same argument making for Other M cool same argument making for Other M cool ideas we could Implement them into the ideas we could Implement them into the ideas we could Implement them into the other two styles of Metro in the future other two styles of Metro in the future other two styles of Metro in the future but probably I just it just doesn't seem but probably I just it just doesn't seem but probably I just it just doesn't seem realistic yeah that we'll see that yeah realistic yeah that we'll see that yeah realistic yeah that we'll see that yeah for me like I've seen gameplay of Other for me like I've seen gameplay of Other for me like I've seen gameplay of Other M when it was announced and when people M when it was announced and when people M when it was announced and when people were playing it and stuff it looked cool were playing it and stuff it looked cool were playing it and stuff it looked cool but hearing the discourse about it made but hearing the discourse about it made but hearing the discourse about it made me a little hesitant and of course me a little hesitant and of course me a little hesitant and of course hearing people talk about a game is very hearing people talk about a game is very hearing people talk about a game is very different from you yourself experiencing different from you yourself experiencing different from you yourself experiencing the game like for yourself but I feel the game like for yourself but I feel the game like for yourself but I feel like if they ever revisit something like like if they ever revisit something like like if they ever revisit something like this and do it right maybe in the very this and do it right maybe in the very this and do it right maybe in the very very far future after Metroid 6 or very far future after Metroid 6 or very far future after Metroid 6 or something it would it would be cool but something it would it would be cool but something it would it would be cool but I think they have learned their lessons I think they have learned their lessons I think they have learned their lessons from Other M to kind of not make the from Other M to kind of not make the from Other M to kind of not make the same mistakes that they did yeah because same mistakes that they did yeah because same mistakes that they did yeah because right after I wouldn't say right after right after I wouldn't say right after right after I wouldn't say right after Other M after Other M they kind of went Other M after Other M they kind of went Other M after Other M they kind of went back to the drawing board remembered who back to the drawing board remembered who back to the drawing board remembered who Samus was and I think we'll get to dread Samus was and I think we'll get to dread Samus was and I think we'll get to dread later but I think dread has the best later but I think dread has the best later but I think dread has the best representation of Sam character ever representation of Sam character ever representation of Sam character ever yeah ex I I I I definitely agree with yeah ex I I I I definitely agree with yeah ex I I I I definitely agree with you I think now Nintendo has shown or you I think now Nintendo has shown or you I think now Nintendo has shown or Sak yoso Sakamoto has shown that they Sak yoso Sakamoto has shown that they Sak yoso Sakamoto has shown that they understand the how metrid should be understand the how metrid should be understand the how metrid should be branded yep and it be interesting to see branded yep and it be interesting to see branded yep and it be interesting to see if that carries over to Metro Prime 4 if that carries over to Metro Prime 4 if that carries over to Metro Prime 4 because that's being produced by kensuke

  27. because that's being produced by kensuke because that's being produced by kensuke tab right so it's a different different tab right so it's a different different tab right so it's a different different person um so we'll we'll see on the person um so we'll we'll see on the person um so we'll we'll see on the thing is Kensi janab is behind the prior thing is Kensi janab is behind the prior thing is Kensi janab is behind the prior Prime games right he's he's already been Prime games right he's he's already been Prime games right he's he's already been making some really good Nintendo games making some really good Nintendo games making some really good Nintendo games today so it's not like he's he's not today so it's not like he's he's not today so it's not like he's he's not prepared to make another good game just prepared to make another good game just prepared to make another good game just the question is is his thinking in line the question is is his thinking in line the question is is his thinking in line with Yosh Sakamoto the creator of the with Yosh Sakamoto the creator of the with Yosh Sakamoto the creator of the original Metro games so we'll see but uh original Metro games so we'll see but uh original Metro games so we'll see but uh I think yeah and on other I I bought it I think yeah and on other I I bought it I think yeah and on other I I bought it for $7 when in a for like a Bargain Bin for $7 when in a for like a Bargain Bin for $7 when in a for like a Bargain Bin thing back in the day right this is thing back in the day right this is thing back in the day right this is people mind this is a long time ago this people mind this is a long time ago this people mind this is a long time ago this is what we're in 2024 so it was 2010 is what we're in 2024 so it was 2010 is what we're in 2024 so it was 2010 right yeah yeah I guess so I it was I right yeah yeah I guess so I it was I right yeah yeah I guess so I it was I was I was in I was I was young yeah yeah was I was in I was I was young yeah yeah was I was in I was I was young yeah yeah I think if we're going in the same order I think if we're going in the same order I think if we're going in the same order I think we're finally you want to I think we're finally you want to I think we're finally you want to continue to go in the same order continue to go in the same order continue to go in the same order um up to you do you want to go primary um up to you do you want to go primary um up to you do you want to go primary Master cuz I was about to say I think Master cuz I was about to say I think Master cuz I was about to say I think we're ready for first s tier oh my God we're ready for first s tier oh my God we're ready for first s tier oh my God you have you have the there's both of you have you have the there's both of you have you have the there's both of them I didn't realize I thought you were them I didn't realize I thought you were them I didn't realize I thought you were just going to assume they were the same just going to assume they were the same just going to assume they were the same thing dude do I think we can talk about thing dude do I think we can talk about thing dude do I think we can talk about both at the same time but I think we're both at the same time but I think we're both at the same time but I think we're in agreement that that's our first best in agreement that that's our first best in agreement that that's our first best here yeah yeah yeah that that's correct here yeah yeah yeah that that's correct here yeah yeah yeah that that's correct yeah yeah um yeah yeah um yeah yeah um yeah yeah Prime I I I'll I'll Club prime

  28. yeah yeah Prime I I I'll I'll Club prime yeah yeah Prime I I I'll I'll Club prime one GameCube one GameCube one GameCube Wii Wii U Prime Trilogy version of one Wii Wii U Prime Trilogy version of one Wii Wii U Prime Trilogy version of one and switch all into one thing so prime and switch all into one thing so prime and switch all into one thing so prime one was very interesting because of one was very interesting because of one was very interesting because of course I've heard so many like very course I've heard so many like very course I've heard so many like very positive things about Metroid Prime I positive things about Metroid Prime I positive things about Metroid Prime I even like saw an article once which said even like saw an article once which said even like saw an article once which said like the headline of the arttic was like the headline of the arttic was like the headline of the arttic was saying Metroid Prime is the Citizen Cane saying Metroid Prime is the Citizen Cane saying Metroid Prime is the Citizen Cane of video games and I read that article of video games and I read that article of video games and I read that article and I was like I don't remember exactly and I was like I don't remember exactly and I was like I don't remember exactly what it said what it said what it said but I I remember the article making that but I I remember the article making that but I I remember the article making that claim and saying like in terms of like claim and saying like in terms of like claim and saying like in terms of like gameplay gameplay gameplay Innovation it is one of the highest Innovation it is one of the highest Innovation it is one of the highest levels of like gameplay Innovation you levels of like gameplay Innovation you levels of like gameplay Innovation you can ever find in a video game at that can ever find in a video game at that can ever find in a video game at that time and I really agree um before Prime time and I really agree um before Prime time and I really agree um before Prime I had played a bit of of Prime 3 so I I had played a bit of of Prime 3 so I I had played a bit of of Prime 3 so I kind of understood the whole first kind of understood the whole first kind of understood the whole first person kind of thing going on with that person kind of thing going on with that person kind of thing going on with that but when I completed Metroid Prime for but when I completed Metroid Prime for but when I completed Metroid Prime for the first time I completed it on Wii U the first time I completed it on Wii U the first time I completed it on Wii U which is sitting right here next to me which is sitting right here next to me which is sitting right here next to me and I played it with the motion controls and I played it with the motion controls and I played it with the motion controls so playing with the motion controls was so playing with the motion controls was so playing with the motion controls was good but sometimes I would think in my good but sometimes I would think in my good but sometimes I would think in my head how would this feel like to play head how would this feel like to play head how would this feel like to play with tank controls how would it feel with tank controls how would it feel with tank controls how would it feel like to play without like having free like to play without like having free like to play without like having free range aiming like that but I will also range aiming like that but I will also range aiming like that but I will also say this I have recommended prime one to say this I have recommended prime one to say this I have recommended prime one to a few other people on the switch version

  29. a few other people on the switch version a few other people on the switch version who are fans of like actual FPS games who are fans of like actual FPS games who are fans of like actual FPS games Call of Duty Halo Doom a lot of that and Call of Duty Halo Doom a lot of that and Call of Duty Halo Doom a lot of that and their biggest complaint coming out of their biggest complaint coming out of their biggest complaint coming out of prime one was the Gunplay wasn't as good prime one was the Gunplay wasn't as good prime one was the Gunplay wasn't as good the combat wasn't as good the the combat wasn't as good the the combat wasn't as good the exploration was because they also had exploration was because they also had exploration was because they also had experience coming from games like dark experience coming from games like dark experience coming from games like dark souls and every time they would play a souls and every time they would play a souls and every time they would play a from software game be like it's a from software game be like it's a from software game be like it's a Metroid Vania it's a Metroid Vania and Metroid Vania it's a Metroid Vania and Metroid Vania it's a Metroid Vania and then they played Metroid Prime 1 and then they played Metroid Prime 1 and then they played Metroid Prime 1 and they're like hey this feels like dark they're like hey this feels like dark they're like hey this feels like dark souls and what did what did he describe souls and what did what did he describe souls and what did what did he describe it as Metroid V oh and then their mind it as Metroid V oh and then their mind it as Metroid V oh and then their mind was blown so a lot of 3D Metroid Vania was blown so a lot of 3D Metroid Vania was blown so a lot of 3D Metroid Vania games Dark Souls even like maybe like games Dark Souls even like maybe like games Dark Souls even like maybe like later 3D zeldas cuz I can see how this later 3D zeldas cuz I can see how this later 3D zeldas cuz I can see how this took inspiration from 3D Zelda as well took inspiration from 3D Zelda as well took inspiration from 3D Zelda as well but this is one of the best exploration but this is one of the best exploration but this is one of the best exploration games ever in terms of like a linear games ever in terms of like a linear games ever in terms of like a linear kind of kind of kind of exploration like yeah no um I I agree um exploration like yeah no um I I agree um exploration like yeah no um I I agree um that in terms of exploration it's really that in terms of exploration it's really that in terms of exploration it's really good and I think it's interesting you good and I think it's interesting you good and I think it's interesting you bring up the combat stuff because I I've bring up the combat stuff because I I've bring up the combat stuff because I I've been really thinking about lately like been really thinking about lately like been really thinking about lately like how what can the Metroid series do to how what can the Metroid series do to how what can the Metroid series do to evolve um and I think when it comes to evolve um and I think when it comes to evolve um and I think when it comes to the Prime series like yeah I I think the Prime series like yeah I I think the Prime series like yeah I I think they do need to rethink how they how they do need to rethink how they how they do need to rethink how they how they handle combat um because compared they handle combat um because compared they handle combat um because compared to other first person shooters it it it to other first person shooters it it it to other first person shooters it it it it needs some work right it's a little it needs some work right it's a little it needs some work right it's a little stiffer in the Prime games yeah but stiffer in the Prime games yeah but stiffer in the Prime games yeah but what's interesting about prime Masters what's interesting about prime Masters what's interesting about prime Masters they do add like a rapid fire um you

  30. they do add like a rapid fire um you they do add like a rapid fire um you know an inherent rapid fire when you know an inherent rapid fire when you know an inherent rapid fire when you press when you press a shoot button you press when you press a shoot button you press when you press a shoot button you shoot you do a you burst shot right shoot you do a you burst shot right shoot you do a you burst shot right that's not that's not how the original that's not that's not how the original that's not that's not how the original release is and so I think that's a release is and so I think that's a release is and so I think that's a little bit of them trying to modernize little bit of them trying to modernize little bit of them trying to modernize it a bit um but I think you you and I it a bit um but I think you you and I it a bit um but I think you you and I kind of agree that you know in order to kind of agree that you know in order to kind of agree that you know in order to really modernize you basically have to really modernize you basically have to really modernize you basically have to make a new game yeah uh so you can't make a new game yeah uh so you can't make a new game yeah uh so you can't really accomplish that with a remaster really accomplish that with a remaster really accomplish that with a remaster without making a new game oh yeah so um without making a new game oh yeah so um without making a new game oh yeah so um yeah uh so it's interesting and yeah I yeah uh so it's interesting and yeah I yeah uh so it's interesting and yeah I mean I was primary Master they did a mean I was primary Master they did a mean I was primary Master they did a fantastic job of modernizing the game a fantastic job of modernizing the game a fantastic job of modernizing the game a lot of ways um visually I would argue lot of ways um visually I would argue lot of ways um visually I would argue it's one of the most impressive games on it's one of the most impressive games on it's one of the most impressive games on switch um they a the accessibility switch um they a the accessibility switch um they a the accessibility options are should not be understated options are should not be understated options are should not be understated the new art is really cool and yeah the the new art is really cool and yeah the the new art is really cool and yeah the the modern switch controls make a big the modern switch controls make a big the modern switch controls make a big difference um some criticisms um the difference um some criticisms um the difference um some criticisms um the lighting engine's lighting engine's lighting engine's amazing but there are but there are some amazing but there are but there are some amazing but there are but there are some parts of the game where it gets parts of the game where it gets parts of the game where it gets extremely dark um and in Prior games you extremely dark um and in Prior games you extremely dark um and in Prior games you in the initial release you could light in the initial release you could light in the initial release you could light your way a bit with the with the arm you your way a bit with the with the arm you your way a bit with the with the arm you can't do that now they're actually it's can't do that now they're actually it's can't do that now they're actually it's almost it feels like a design Choice almost it feels like a design Choice almost it feels like a design Choice like maybe they were thinking oh you like maybe they were thinking oh you like maybe they were thinking oh you should just actually use the X-ray visor should just actually use the X-ray visor should just actually use the X-ray visor and I'll say I think the X-ray visor and and I'll say I think the X-ray visor and and I'll say I think the X-ray visor and and th Wiis are better now but people and th Wiis are better now but people and th Wiis are better now but people don't like using those FS too much yeah don't like using those FS too much yeah don't like using those FS too much yeah so there there's a little bit a little so there there's a little bit a little so there there's a little bit a little bit of that but overall I mean it's bit of that but overall I mean it's bit of that but overall I mean it's still a masterpiece yeah feel like prime still a masterpiece yeah feel like prime still a masterpiece yeah feel like prime one and Prime two have some weird visual one and Prime two have some weird visual one and Prime two have some weird visual hiccups with their visors yeah thermal

  31. hiccups with their visors yeah thermal hiccups with their visors yeah thermal visor was weird and x-ray visor was very visor was weird and x-ray visor was very visor was weird and x-ray visor was very weird in the original like Prime Trilogy weird in the original like Prime Trilogy weird in the original like Prime Trilogy version I played and then I recently version I played and then I recently version I played and then I recently played Prime 2 and the dark visor in played Prime 2 and the dark visor in played Prime 2 and the dark visor in that one was also very weird to look at that one was also very weird to look at that one was also very weird to look at but I think yeah I think I think Prime but I think yeah I think I think Prime but I think yeah I think I think Prime remastered is a phenomenal REM Master remastered is a phenomenal REM Master remastered is a phenomenal REM Master when I saw it in the Nintendo Direct for when I saw it in the Nintendo Direct for when I saw it in the Nintendo Direct for the first time I was mind blown at how the first time I was mind blown at how the first time I was mind blown at how like amazing it looks it is like many like amazing it looks it is like many like amazing it looks it is like many say it is the best looking game on the say it is the best looking game on the say it is the best looking game on the switch it looks runs feels amazing and switch it looks runs feels amazing and switch it looks runs feels amazing and if this is any indication of Metro Prime if this is any indication of Metro Prime if this is any indication of Metro Prime 4 will look like then we're 4 will look like then we're 4 will look like then we're in yeah yeah but one thing I I I do want in yeah yeah but one thing I I I do want in yeah yeah but one thing I I I do want to say one thing about metric Prime to say one thing about metric Prime to say one thing about metric Prime I um I think it is very akin to to I um I think it is very akin to to I um I think it is very akin to to Ocarina of Time in the sense that um a Ocarina of Time in the sense that um a Ocarina of Time in the sense that um a lot of people's criticism if you can lot of people's criticism if you can lot of people's criticism if you can even call this a criticism of ocarino even call this a criticism of ocarino even call this a criticism of ocarino time was that it was a link to the past time was that it was a link to the past time was that it was a link to the past in in in 3D with a different story no yeah Prime 3D with a different story no yeah Prime 3D with a different story no yeah Prime is is super metting 3 and I feel like is is super metting 3 and I feel like is is super metting 3 and I feel like Metro Prime does that a little bit more Metro Prime does that a little bit more Metro Prime does that a little bit more I will cut retro Studio some slack I will cut retro Studio some slack I will cut retro Studio some slack because it was their first time doing because it was their first time doing because it was their first time doing something like this they had a something like this they had a something like this they had a Monumental like achievement and they did Monumental like achievement and they did Monumental like achievement and they did phenomenally with it but they had to go phenomenally with it but they had to go phenomenally with it but they had to go based off of something that really based off of something that really based off of something that really worked before and they had to go off of worked before and they had to go off of worked before and they had to go off of Super Metroid so you can see that in the Super Metroid so you can see that in the Super Metroid so you can see that in the areas you can see like chosa ruins feels

  32. areas you can see like chosa ruins feels areas you can see like chosa ruins feels like brinstar uh fendron drifts feels like brinstar uh fendron drifts feels like brinstar uh fendron drifts feels like something else or like uh Magmar like something else or like uh Magmar like something else or like uh Magmar Caverns feels like norfair it feels like Caverns feels like norfair it feels like Caverns feels like norfair it feels like super metroid but it feels like a super metroid but it feels like a super metroid but it feels like a three-dimensional more expansive version three-dimensional more expansive version three-dimensional more expansive version of it and of it and of it and what what what my what I love the most about Metroid my what I love the most about Metroid my what I love the most about Metroid Prime is when I was playing it I was Prime is when I was playing it I was Prime is when I was playing it I was actively listening to a lot of the actively listening to a lot of the actively listening to a lot of the developer interviews that were coming developer interviews that were coming developer interviews that were coming out around that time cuz 2021 uh I think out around that time cuz 2021 uh I think out around that time cuz 2021 uh I think it was kiwi talks he was doing a lot of it was kiwi talks he was doing a lot of it was kiwi talks he was doing a lot of interviews with ex Retro Studios interviews with ex Retro Studios interviews with ex Retro Studios employees and before it was even employees and before it was even employees and before it was even announced yeah seeing how like they announced yeah seeing how like they announced yeah seeing how like they worked on the game their thought process worked on the game their thought process worked on the game their thought process their design process their design process their design process of various bosses various like abilities of various bosses various like abilities of various bosses various like abilities that Samus had like the one of the that Samus had like the one of the that Samus had like the one of the coolest things ever was how um I think coolest things ever was how um I think coolest things ever was how um I think Mike wicin was saying like um mamoto one Mike wicin was saying like um mamoto one Mike wicin was saying like um mamoto one day came and told us what if Samus had day came and told us what if Samus had day came and told us what if Samus had bug eyes and they didn't know what to bug eyes and they didn't know what to bug eyes and they didn't know what to think of that cuz like mioto would give think of that cuz like mioto would give think of that cuz like mioto would give them like riddles like that here and them like riddles like that here and them like riddles like that here and there and they they didn't know what there and they they didn't know what there and they they didn't know what that mean like what that meant until that mean like what that meant until that mean like what that meant until they were like hey what if by bug eyes they were like hey what if by bug eyes they were like hey what if by bug eyes he means like different visors and then he means like different visors and then he means like different visors and then that's what how the idea of visors came that's what how the idea of visors came that's what how the idea of visors came into play so there are so many things into play so there are so many things into play so there are so many things that prime one established visors scan that prime one established visors scan that prime one established visors scan scanning swapping beams on the Fly the

  33. scanning swapping beams on the Fly the scanning swapping beams on the Fly the way you get into the morph ball get out way you get into the morph ball get out way you get into the morph ball get out of the morph ball the spider ball in 3D of the morph ball the spider ball in 3D of the morph ball the spider ball in 3D the Boost ball it established so much of the Boost ball it established so much of the Boost ball it established so much of that and it's really like kind of that and it's really like kind of that and it's really like kind of expanded on so much in the other Prime expanded on so much in the other Prime expanded on so much in the other Prime games but one thing I do want to ask you games but one thing I do want to ask you games but one thing I do want to ask you I mean we'll get into this later but I mean we'll get into this later but I mean we'll get into this later but sure do you think this is the best Prime sure do you think this is the best Prime sure do you think this is the best Prime game and if so why do you think it's the game and if so why do you think it's the game and if so why do you think it's the best Prime game best Prime game best Prime game well well well so and this is me just speaking of Metro so and this is me just speaking of Metro so and this is me just speaking of Metro prime one as a whole right like if you prime one as a whole right like if you prime one as a whole right like if you want to start arguing versions want to start arguing versions want to start arguing versions that's I don't want to get into that that's I don't want to get into that that's I don't want to get into that yeah um yeah this is this is prime one yeah um yeah this is this is prime one yeah um yeah this is this is prime one as a whole yeah but the answer is yes as a whole yeah but the answer is yes as a whole yeah but the answer is yes yeah yeah it it is Metro Prime is is I yeah yeah it it is Metro Prime is is I yeah yeah it it is Metro Prime is is I mean it it mean it it mean it it it was my first experience to Metroid it was my first experience to Metroid it was my first experience to Metroid right so it has a little bit of that right so it has a little bit of that right so it has a little bit of that benefit of being kind of like ocarine of benefit of being kind of like ocarine of benefit of being kind of like ocarine of time or was my first experience Zelda um time or was my first experience Zelda um time or was my first experience Zelda um and so like I fell in love with the and so like I fell in love with the and so like I fell in love with the series right but the thing is like so series right but the thing is like so series right but the thing is like so for example obviously you know I mean a for example obviously you know I mean a for example obviously you know I mean a lot of this is all opinion right but lot of this is all opinion right but lot of this is all opinion right but like I just think about like the music like I just think about like the music like I just think about like the music for example um there are songs in Metro for example um there are songs in Metro for example um there are songs in Metro Prime 3 I love there are songs in Metro Prime 3 I love there are songs in Metro Prime 3 I love there are songs in Metro Prime 2 I love but most of the music I Prime 2 I love but most of the music I Prime 2 I love but most of the music I love from Metroid Prime comes from love from Metroid Prime comes from love from Metroid Prime comes from Metroid Prime 1 right I was super iconic Metroid Prime 1 right I was super iconic Metroid Prime 1 right I was super iconic songs yeah and I'll also say I was I was songs yeah and I'll also say I was I was songs yeah and I'll also say I was I was mentioning earlier how I didn't like how mentioning earlier how I didn't like how mentioning earlier how I didn't like how they went to One Singular beam in Prime they went to One Singular beam in Prime they went to One Singular beam in Prime 3 even though they had some other it 3 even though they had some other it 3 even though they had some other it added other cool abilities which I added other cool abilities which I added other cool abilities which I appreciated but they kind of went away

  34. appreciated but they kind of went away appreciated but they kind of went away from the the switching the be mechanics from the the switching the be mechanics from the the switching the be mechanics which I thought which I thought was a which I thought which I thought was a which I thought which I thought was a really cool thing and in Prime 2 they really cool thing and in Prime 2 they really cool thing and in Prime 2 they still have the switching of beans which still have the switching of beans which still have the switching of beans which I appreciate but they added an ammo I appreciate but they added an ammo I appreciate but they added an ammo system which I did not like because system which I did not like because system which I did not like because annoying it's one of the fun things annoying it's one of the fun things annoying it's one of the fun things about Metro is you can just shoot things about Metro is you can just shoot things about Metro is you can just shoot things all willy-nilly right that's fun and so all willy-nilly right that's fun and so all willy-nilly right that's fun and so the ammo system makes it less fun I the ammo system makes it less fun I the ammo system makes it less fun I would argue now you could say it kind of would argue now you could say it kind of would argue now you could say it kind of adds more of like a a Dark Souls Z adds more of like a a Dark Souls Z adds more of like a a Dark Souls Z Resident Evil Soul like not resid evil Resident Evil Soul like not resid evil Resident Evil Soul like not resid evil soully but oh I mean yeah this idea cons soully but oh I mean yeah this idea cons soully but oh I mean yeah this idea cons serve your resources exactly um and so I serve your resources exactly um and so I serve your resources exactly um and so I I kind of understand it from that I kind of understand it from that I kind of understand it from that perspective but perspective but perspective but also I mean yeah also I mean yeah also I mean yeah [Music] [Music] [Music] I just I I think the end result is I I just I I think the end result is I I just I I think the end result is I didn't like it in Prime 2 I like Prime didn't like it in Prime 2 I like Prime didn't like it in Prime 2 I like Prime two a lot and we'll get to that but I two a lot and we'll get to that but I two a lot and we'll get to that but I just mean like the ammunition system I just mean like the ammunition system I just mean like the ammunition system I think took away from the fun of changing think took away from the fun of changing think took away from the fun of changing around your beams and having them so you around your beams and having them so you around your beams and having them so you know like that that to me is Big um know like that that to me is Big um know like that that to me is Big um there are some great boss fights in the there are some great boss fights in the there are some great boss fights in the series but I I guess I you know Prime series but I I guess I you know Prime series but I I guess I you know Prime two I've actually never finished oh two I've actually never finished oh two I've actually never finished oh interesting yeah I've got I've gotone to interesting yeah I've got I've gotone to interesting yeah I've got I've gotone to the point where I've be all the I've the point where I've be all the I've the point where I've be all the I've been in quadraxis like that the like the been in quadraxis like that the like the been in quadraxis like that the like the last big boss before the end but I have last big boss before the end but I have last big boss before the end but I have to get all the keys right and to get all the keys right and to get all the keys right and so it's it's a tougher game to finish so it's it's a tougher game to finish so it's it's a tougher game to finish than prime one U that's not necessarily than prime one U that's not necessarily than prime one U that's not necessarily a con but I I I think that Prime one's a con but I I I think that Prime one's a con but I I I think that Prime one's already a pretty hard game it's not as already a pretty hard game it's not as already a pretty hard game it's not as inviting to it's not inviting to a lot

  35. inviting to it's not inviting to a lot inviting to it's not inviting to a lot of people and then Prime two is even of people and then Prime two is even of people and then Prime two is even less so right yeah and Prime three is less so right yeah and Prime three is less so right yeah and Prime three is super easy by comparison but which you super easy by comparison but which you super easy by comparison but which you still found challenging as a kid like still found challenging as a kid like still found challenging as a kid like just to kind of speak the difficulty of just to kind of speak the difficulty of just to kind of speak the difficulty of the Prime games um but yeah I mean you the Prime games um but yeah I mean you the Prime games um but yeah I mean you know between just the over I actually know between just the over I actually know between just the over I actually really like choar ruins and fend I I really like choar ruins and fend I I really like choar ruins and fend I I fendron is one of my favorite erors in fendron is one of my favorite erors in fendron is one of my favorite erors in the series they're so just so beautiful the series they're so just so beautiful the series they're so just so beautiful especially once you get the depths of especially once you get the depths of especially once you get the depths of fendron and the music changes that is fendron and the music changes that is fendron and the music changes that is that's fantastic actually something I that's fantastic actually something I that's fantastic actually something I actually really like about um Metroid actually really like about um Metroid actually really like about um Metroid Prime 1 is that like there's like a Prime 1 is that like there's like a Prime 1 is that like there's like a deeper part of chosen ruins there's a deeper part of chosen ruins there's a deeper part of chosen ruins there's a deeper part of of fana and so you're deeper part of of fana and so you're deeper part of of fana and so you're like and there's also a deeper part of like and there's also a deeper part of like and there's also a deeper part of of of of um the on lines right and so it's it's um the on lines right and so it's it's um the on lines right and so it's it's even though there's like what I guess even though there's like what I guess even though there's like what I guess five world like areas to explore but five world like areas to explore but five world like areas to explore but there's actually it's it's kind of like there's actually it's it's kind of like there's actually it's it's kind of like more because there's deeper areas within more because there's deeper areas within more because there's deeper areas within the bigger areas right and let You' seen the bigger areas right and let You' seen the bigger areas right and let You' seen everything you haven't seen everything everything you haven't seen everything everything you haven't seen everything exactly and even when you go back to exactly and even when you go back to exactly and even when you go back to Talent Overworld like halfway through Talent Overworld like halfway through Talent Overworld like halfway through the game the music changes so you know the game the music changes so you know the game the music changes so you know like things are starting to pick up like things are starting to pick up like things are starting to pick up things are different and also Town overw things are different and also Town overw things are different and also Town overw world's amazing yeah like it's hard to world's amazing yeah like it's hard to world's amazing yeah like it's hard to town over world is like one of the most town over world is like one of the most town over world is like one of the most beautiful areas in video games oh yeah beautiful areas in video games oh yeah beautiful areas in video games oh yeah to me so like when I got it on switch to me so like when I got it on switch to me so like when I got it on switch when I was playing the remastered when I was playing the remastered when I was playing the remastered version I just stayed in Talon overload version I just stayed in Talon overload version I just stayed in Talon overload for like 10 seconds looking up at the for like 10 seconds looking up at the for like 10 seconds looking up at the sky waiting for the raindrops to hit sky waiting for the raindrops to hit sky waiting for the raindrops to hit samus's visor I was like yes and yeah

  36. samus's visor I was like yes and yeah samus's visor I was like yes and yeah and so like things like that like you and so like things like that like you and so like things like that like you know Metro Prime 2 doesn't have that you know Metro Prime 2 doesn't have that you know Metro Prime 2 doesn't have that you know it has some cool areas but it it's know it has some cool areas but it it's know it has some cool areas but it it's not the same you know it's Metro Prime 2 not the same you know it's Metro Prime 2 not the same you know it's Metro Prime 2 is scary yeah Metro Prime 2 is more is scary yeah Metro Prime 2 is more is scary yeah Metro Prime 2 is more octane with it's yeah it is it is a more octane with it's yeah it is it is a more octane with it's yeah it is it is a more um Metro Prim 2 feels more like a horror um Metro Prim 2 feels more like a horror um Metro Prim 2 feels more like a horror game yeah you're not you're not like oh game yeah you're not you're not like oh game yeah you're not you're not like oh this is a beautiful place you're like oh this is a beautiful place you're like oh this is a beautiful place you're like oh [ __ ] this is messed up cuz I was even [ __ ] this is messed up cuz I was even [ __ ] this is messed up cuz I was even going to say Sanctuary ruins like going to say Sanctuary ruins like going to say Sanctuary ruins like Sanctuary ruins looks or Sanctuary Sanctuary ruins looks or Sanctuary Sanctuary ruins looks or Sanctuary Fortress looks really cool but Fortress looks really cool but Fortress looks really cool but everything is out to get you and it's everything is out to get you and it's everything is out to get you and it's kind of like it's a very hostile kind of like it's a very hostile kind of like it's a very hostile environment I think that's the best way environment I think that's the best way environment I think that's the best way to describe Prime 2 it's very hostile to describe Prime 2 it's very hostile to describe Prime 2 it's very hostile yes whereas prime one is very yes whereas prime one is very yes whereas prime one is very atmospheric ambient just kind of Vibes atmospheric ambient just kind of Vibes atmospheric ambient just kind of Vibes there's there's a more variety to the there's there's a more variety to the there's there's a more variety to the environments I would say and from that environments I would say and from that environments I would say and from that perspective um and then the beginning of perspective um and then the beginning of perspective um and then the beginning of the the the game I would argue it's one of the game I would argue it's one of the game I would argue it's one of the beginning one of the best Beginnings in beginning one of the best Beginnings in beginning one of the best Beginnings in games period like getting into the you games period like getting into the you games period like getting into the you know the space frigate and then know the space frigate and then know the space frigate and then exploring that Queen the finding the exploring that Queen the finding the exploring that Queen the finding the parasite Queen the ESC the escape parasite Queen the ESC the escape parasite Queen the ESC the escape sequence Ridley like all of that like sequence Ridley like all of that like sequence Ridley like all of that like and that was like samus's first moment and that was like samus's first moment and that was like samus's first moment as a in 3D right it's like what a as a in 3D right it's like what a as a in 3D right it's like what a special way to like I I love the special way to like I I love the special way to like I I love the animation of her jumping out of the ship animation of her jumping out of the ship animation of her jumping out of the ship doing the flip landing and then it going doing the flip landing and then it going doing the flip landing and then it going like 360 Dees around it's like in your like 360 Dees around it's like in your like 360 Dees around it's like in your face like Metroid is in 3D and then it face like Metroid is in 3D and then it face like Metroid is in 3D and then it goes straight into the visor first goes straight into the visor first goes straight into the visor first person that's it's so so cool how they

  37. person that's it's so so cool how they person that's it's so so cool how they did that it is it is yeah so I mean we did that it is it is yeah so I mean we did that it is it is yeah so I mean we could go on and on but Metro Prime yeah could go on and on but Metro Prime yeah could go on and on but Metro Prime yeah it's it's absolutely s tier and it is it's it's absolutely s tier and it is it's it's absolutely s tier and it is the best of the Prime games so that one the best of the Prime games so that one the best of the Prime games so that one final thing I want to talk about is we final thing I want to talk about is we final thing I want to talk about is we talked about switching the beams and the talked about switching the beams and the talked about switching the beams and the visors I think the final boss of this visors I think the final boss of this visors I think the final boss of this game does that the best the first phase game does that the best the first phase game does that the best the first phase the first like chunk of it was switching the first like chunk of it was switching the first like chunk of it was switching your beams to like match the color and your beams to like match the color and your beams to like match the color and then the second phase was matching your then the second phase was matching your then the second phase was matching your visor so you can see where the Metroid visor so you can see where the Metroid visor so you can see where the Metroid Prime actually is so that was a very Prime actually is so that was a very Prime actually is so that was a very tedious and annoying but fun boss fight tedious and annoying but fun boss fight tedious and annoying but fun boss fight but anyways I mean it it kind of forces but anyways I mean it it kind of forces but anyways I mean it it kind of forces you to use all of your abilities which I you to use all of your abilities which I you to use all of your abilities which I think is is actually pretty nice to see think is is actually pretty nice to see think is is actually pretty nice to see in a final boss fight yeah yeah a very in a final boss fight yeah yeah a very in a final boss fight yeah yeah a very epic way to end the game yeah though epic way to end the game yeah though epic way to end the game yeah though also you can put prime one like the also you can put prime one like the also you can put prime one like the original prime one up there as well in s original prime one up there as well in s original prime one up there as well in s so yeah um I would we we'll keep I would so yeah um I would we we'll keep I would so yeah um I would we we'll keep I would say remastered is a better say remastered is a better say remastered is a better experience it is a better experience experience it is a better experience experience it is a better experience now but Metro Prime 1 I would say is a now but Metro Prime 1 I would say is a now but Metro Prime 1 I would say is a better experience for its time yes it better experience for its time yes it better experience for its time yes it has more of the Legacy so I don't I has more of the Legacy so I don't I has more of the Legacy so I don't I don't know how you want to organize this don't know how you want to organize this don't know how you want to organize this right um because then maybe can argue right um because then maybe can argue right um because then maybe can argue well met right too you know you said it well met right too you know you said it well met right too you know you said it low because it's it hasn't aged well and low because it's it hasn't aged well and low because it's it hasn't aged well and so I mean I I guess you know all right so I mean I I guess you know all right so I mean I I guess you know all right I'll no by that is how how do you want I'll no by that is how how do you want I'll no by that is how how do you want to do it I uh I think we'll keep it like to do it I uh I think we'll keep it like to do it I uh I think we'll keep it like this I think I think so it's more so

  38. this I think I think so it's more so this I think I think so it's more so about how we play how we enjoy and about how we play how we enjoy and about how we play how we enjoy and receive them now yes I think we'll keep receive them now yes I think we'll keep receive them now yes I think we'll keep it like that all right well all right I it like that all right well all right I it like that all right well all right I got another s tier game got another s tier game got another s tier game yes yes the most immersive morph ball yes yes the most immersive morph ball yes yes the most immersive morph ball simulator ever Metro Prime simulator ever Metro Prime simulator ever Metro Prime pinball you know Jokes pinball you know Jokes pinball you know Jokes Aside is one of my favorite spin-offs Aside is one of my favorite spin-offs Aside is one of my favorite spin-offs ever like let me just be straight with ever like let me just be straight with ever like let me just be straight with you Metro Prime pinball to me you Metro Prime pinball to me you Metro Prime pinball to me is is is I I think it's bottom of B tier that's I I think it's bottom of B tier that's I I think it's bottom of B tier that's how good I think it is and my how good I think it is and my how good I think it is and my crazy I don't think so I mean I haven't crazy I don't think so I mean I haven't crazy I don't think so I mean I haven't played the game but it seems to be played the game but it seems to be played the game but it seems to be pretty fun and I think the pretty fun and I think the pretty fun and I think the pinball mechanic like the pinball pinball mechanic like the pinball pinball mechanic like the pinball gimmick is like perfect for Metroid and gimmick is like perfect for Metroid and gimmick is like perfect for Metroid and what's funny is um I was in an arcade what's funny is um I was in an arcade what's funny is um I was in an arcade this past weekend for a friend's this past weekend for a friend's this past weekend for a friend's birthday party and I saw all these like birthday party and I saw all these like birthday party and I saw all these like pinball machines and in my head I was pinball machines and in my head I was pinball machines and in my head I was like they should have like a Metro like they should have like a Metro like they should have like a Metro pinball machine like an actual machine pinball machine like an actual machine pinball machine like an actual machine not like the DS not like the DS not like the DS that would be pretty cool so the thing that would be pretty cool so the thing that would be pretty cool so the thing with Metro Prime pinball right so it with Metro Prime pinball right so it with Metro Prime pinball right so it came out for Nintendo DS and it came came out for Nintendo DS and it came came out for Nintendo DS and it came with a rumble pack right so the way the with a rumble pack right so the way the with a rumble pack right so the way the DS worked you put your you know your DS worked you put your you know your DS worked you put your you know your little cartridges inside the top of the little cartridges inside the top of the little cartridges inside the top of the DS right where like the the the big DS right where like the the the big DS right where like the the the big platform piece but there was another platform piece but there was another platform piece but there was another side um the front side where you could side um the front side where you could side um the front side where you could put in Game Boy advanced games for put in Game Boy advanced games for put in Game Boy advanced games for backwards compatibility right but

  39. backwards compatibility right but backwards compatibility right but sometimes intended would use that for sometimes intended would use that for sometimes intended would use that for other reasons other reasons other reasons including in a b a a rumble pack so they including in a b a a rumble pack so they including in a b a a rumble pack so they literally gave you a a cartridge that literally gave you a a cartridge that literally gave you a a cartridge that looked like a Game Boy advanced game it looked like a Game Boy advanced game it looked like a Game Boy advanced game it was black you put it into your DS and it was black you put it into your DS and it was black you put it into your DS and it would turn it it would give your DS would turn it it would give your DS would turn it it would give your DS Rumble yeah which is so cool and it came Rumble yeah which is so cool and it came Rumble yeah which is so cool and it came with Prim pinball so the game had Rumble with Prim pinball so the game had Rumble with Prim pinball so the game had Rumble which is rare for a DS game right so which is rare for a DS game right so which is rare for a DS game right so that was already amazing but also Prime that was already amazing but also Prime that was already amazing but also Prime pinball you brought up a good point like pinball you brought up a good point like pinball you brought up a good point like it's a cool novelty because Sam's it's a cool novelty because Sam's it's a cool novelty because Sam's actually you know in morph Ball's actually you know in morph Ball's actually you know in morph Ball's pinball like they had that but also pinball like they had that but also pinball like they had that but also visually you know playing on both visually you know playing on both visually you know playing on both screens like especially then because screens like especially then because screens like especially then because that was kind of like that that first that was kind of like that that first that was kind of like that that first time it was really cool but I would say time it was really cool but I would say time it was really cool but I would say even now you know if there is somehow to even now you know if there is somehow to even now you know if there is somehow to some way to give us a modern version of some way to give us a modern version of some way to give us a modern version of that game it would be amazing um but that game it would be amazing um but that game it would be amazing um but something else about it is that you something else about it is that you something else about it is that you would fight bosses right like there were would fight bosses right like there were would fight bosses right like there were moments you would turn into Samus like moments you would turn into Samus like moments you would turn into Samus like you would trans like into fight into you would trans like into fight into you would trans like into fight into normal mode right in humanoid mode like normal mode right in humanoid mode like normal mode right in humanoid mode like outside of morphball and you'd be outside of morphball and you'd be outside of morphball and you'd be shooting around killing parasites and shooting around killing parasites and shooting around killing parasites and space pirates and boss fights like so it space pirates and boss fights like so it space pirates and boss fights like so it included combat within the pinball G included combat within the pinball G included combat within the pinball G pinball gameplay had this really cool pinball gameplay had this really cool pinball gameplay had this really cool Rumble had a beautiful aesthetic I mean Rumble had a beautiful aesthetic I mean Rumble had a beautiful aesthetic I mean it it it is definitely like it's it it it is definitely like it's it it it is definitely like it's basically another version of Metroid basically another version of Metroid basically another version of Metroid Prime because it's it's all based off Prime because it's it's all based off Prime because it's it's all based off the Metroid Prime story and and the Metroid Prime story and and the Metroid Prime story and and characters but it's it's just so cool I characters but it's it's just so cool I characters but it's it's just so cool I mean it's one of my favorite spin-offs I mean it's one of my favorite spin-offs I mean it's one of my favorite spin-offs I mean I can see how you can be like yeah mean I can see how you can be like yeah mean I can see how you can be like yeah but it's just pinball but it's they put

  40. but it's just pinball but it's they put but it's just pinball but it's they put a lot of effort into it a lot of work a lot of effort into it a lot of work a lot of effort into it a lot of work into it it's goated Pinball it's pinball into it it's goated Pinball it's pinball into it it's goated Pinball it's pinball done it's like I like I'm not joking it done it's like I like I'm not joking it done it's like I like I'm not joking it is my favorite pinball game of all time is my favorite pinball game of all time is my favorite pinball game of all time and I think that says something because and I think that says something because and I think that says something because pinball Pinball's like its own thing so pinball Pinball's like its own thing so pinball Pinball's like its own thing so you know that's cool I'm looking forward you know that's cool I'm looking forward you know that's cool I'm looking forward to your comments where people like how to your comments where people like how to your comments where people like how could you put pinball so time it's Peak could you put pinball so time it's Peak could you put pinball so time it's Peak yeah also yeah I think we'll move on to yeah also yeah I think we'll move on to yeah also yeah I think we'll move on to Sam's returns I think don't don't rank Sam's returns I think don't don't rank Sam's returns I think don't don't rank it yet I need to say my bit about Sams it yet I need to say my bit about Sams it yet I need to say my bit about Sams before anything I recently completed s before anything I recently completed s before anything I recently completed s returns returns returns I I don't know how to feel about the I I don't know how to feel about the I I don't know how to feel about the game I think it was good I think it was game I think it was good I think it was game I think it was good I think it was decent I think it might be my least Fair decent I think it might be my least Fair decent I think it might be my least Fair 2D Metroid game and I I will say this be 2D Metroid game and I I will say this be 2D Metroid game and I I will say this be tough yeah this is going to be tough I tough yeah this is going to be tough I tough yeah this is going to be tough I enjoyed going through the game but there enjoyed going through the game but there enjoyed going through the game but there were various things that really really were various things that really really were various things that really really just kind of didn't hit right with me I just kind of didn't hit right with me I just kind of didn't hit right with me I think the melee counter was excessively think the melee counter was excessively think the melee counter was excessively overused and I was very very annoyed by overused and I was very very annoyed by overused and I was very very annoyed by that almost every single enemy required that almost every single enemy required that almost every single enemy required the melee counter and if you don't use the melee counter and if you don't use the melee counter and if you don't use the melee counter you probably won't the melee counter you probably won't the melee counter you probably won't successfully beat them and that was very successfully beat them and that was very successfully beat them and that was very annoying um the bosses annoying um the bosses annoying um the bosses were fun especially the actually no the

  41. were fun especially the actually no the were fun especially the actually no the bosses were not fun the what I mean to bosses were not fun the what I mean to bosses were not fun the what I mean to say say is the bosses were welld say say is the bosses were welld say say is the bosses were welld designed they're good Metroid bosses in designed they're good Metroid bosses in designed they're good Metroid bosses in how they move how they attack you how how they move how they attack you how how they move how they attack you how you're supposed to attack them you can't you're supposed to attack them you can't you're supposed to attack them you can't just go in guns blazing right I just go in guns blazing right I just go in guns blazing right I noticed that even the slightest like noticed that even the slightest like noticed that even the slightest like attack that you might miss even the attack that you might miss even the attack that you might miss even the slightest attack that you might mess up slightest attack that you might mess up slightest attack that you might mess up if you like get hit by like the smallest if you like get hit by like the smallest if you like get hit by like the smallest orb or if you like fall down on like orb or if you like fall down on like orb or if you like fall down on like some like if if some Metroid like makes some like if if some Metroid like makes some like if if some Metroid like makes the Floor Electric you fall down on the the Floor Electric you fall down on the the Floor Electric you fall down on the floor by mistake you lose so much energy floor by mistake you lose so much energy floor by mistake you lose so much energy so I was dying constantly on a lot of so I was dying constantly on a lot of so I was dying constantly on a lot of these boss fights and some like these boss fights and some like these boss fights and some like especially the later boss fights you had especially the later boss fights you had especially the later boss fights you had to be like frame perfect almost to like to be like frame perfect almost to like to be like frame perfect almost to like make sure you're hitting them right and make sure you're hitting them right and make sure you're hitting them right and stuff it got very very annoying I will stuff it got very very annoying I will stuff it got very very annoying I will say I can see what a lot of this game say I can see what a lot of this game say I can see what a lot of this game was trying to do but but as I played was trying to do but but as I played was trying to do but but as I played this game my appreciation for Metroid this game my appreciation for Metroid this game my appreciation for Metroid dread significantly increased because I dread significantly increased because I dread significantly increased because I was like I'm seeing a lot of what this was like I'm seeing a lot of what this was like I'm seeing a lot of what this game is doing and everything that it's game is doing and everything that it's game is doing and everything that it's doing is done so much better in dread doing is done so much better in dread doing is done so much better in dread and then what else did I oh yeah one and then what else did I oh yeah one and then what else did I oh yeah one thing that kind of turned me off as well thing that kind of turned me off as well thing that kind of turned me off as well was the music and the sound effects a was the music and the sound effects a was the music and the sound effects a lot of it was taken from other Metroid

  42. lot of it was taken from other Metroid lot of it was taken from other Metroid games especially Metroid Prime so to me games especially Metroid Prime so to me games especially Metroid Prime so to me I was like the sounds of a Metroid game I was like the sounds of a Metroid game I was like the sounds of a Metroid game are what make it stand out from other are what make it stand out from other are what make it stand out from other Metroid games Metroid games Metroid games and with this game borrowing like the and with this game borrowing like the and with this game borrowing like the item sound effect and the saving sound item sound effect and the saving sound item sound effect and the saving sound effect and the loading into the game effect and the loading into the game effect and the loading into the game sound effect and some songs like magore sound effect and some songs like magore sound effect and some songs like magore caverns and all that it just almost made caverns and all that it just almost made caverns and all that it just almost made it feel like it didn't have its own kind it feel like it didn't have its own kind it feel like it didn't have its own kind of identity this is the hottest take I of identity this is the hottest take I of identity this is the hottest take I might have ever say on my entire Nish might have ever say on my entire Nish might have ever say on my entire Nish quick pops Channel but that is it I will quick pops Channel but that is it I will quick pops Channel but that is it I will I will I will put it in a high seat here I will I will put it in a high seat here I will I will put it in a high seat here I unfriend you you're not friends I unfriend you you're not friends I unfriend you you're not friends anymore I'm just kidding um yeah I mean anymore I'm just kidding um yeah I mean anymore I'm just kidding um yeah I mean I guess it's tough because we're trying I guess it's tough because we're trying I guess it's tough because we're trying to like come to an agreement on where we to like come to an agreement on where we to like come to an agreement on where we should put these things um the thing is should put these things um the thing is should put these things um the thing is I'm high on Sam returns Sam returns is I'm high on Sam returns Sam returns is I'm high on Sam returns Sam returns is like my 3DS swan song like I loved it like my 3DS swan song like I loved it like my 3DS swan song like I loved it the the difficulty made me like it more the the difficulty made me like it more the the difficulty made me like it more more like I I thing is I mean I think more like I I thing is I mean I think more like I I thing is I mean I think some of the things you're talking about some of the things you're talking about some of the things you're talking about are kind of like the artifacts of what are kind of like the artifacts of what are kind of like the artifacts of what it is because it is a remake of a Game it is because it is a remake of a Game it is because it is a remake of a Game Boy game right exactly and so part of it Boy game right exactly and so part of it Boy game right exactly and so part of it is kind of staying true to what that is kind of staying true to what that is kind of staying true to what that game is but but they also added new game is but but they also added new game is but but they also added new elements like the melee attack I think elements like the melee attack I think elements like the melee attack I think was a cool thing and you know it was a was a cool thing and you know it was a was a cool thing and you know it was a good foundation for what became dread good foundation for what became dread good foundation for what became dread right and so like you know it was a right and so like you know it was a right and so like you know it was a stepping stone um and I mean I guess I'm

  43. and I mean I guess I'm they just did some cool things like they they just did some cool things like they they just did some cool things like they the abilities are cool I liked how the the abilities are cool I liked how the the abilities are cool I liked how the Aon AB abilities oh I remember that yeah Aon AB abilities oh I remember that yeah Aon AB abilities oh I remember that yeah those are cool the thing is it's way those are cool the thing is it's way those are cool the thing is it's way more fresh for you also right so your more fresh for you also right so your more fresh for you also right so your opinion is is raw and so you could I opinion is is raw and so you could I opinion is is raw and so you could I could so two things one I think in your could so two things one I think in your could so two things one I think in your favor you have a lot it's really fresh favor you have a lot it's really fresh favor you have a lot it's really fresh you know what you're talking about you you know what you're talking about you you know what you're talking about you remember a lot of a lot of more of it remember a lot of a lot of more of it remember a lot of a lot of more of it but also because it's raw you maybe but also because it's raw you maybe but also because it's raw you maybe haven't had as much time to dissect it I haven't had as much time to dissect it I haven't had as much time to dissect it I haven't had time to sit on haven't had time to sit on haven't had time to sit on yeah maybe that's happened with me with yeah maybe that's happened with me with yeah maybe that's happened with me with games like a good example of Xeno Blade games like a good example of Xeno Blade games like a good example of Xeno Blade 2 like I loved Xeno Blade 2 when I 2 like I loved Xeno Blade 2 when I 2 like I loved Xeno Blade 2 when I finished it it was like a very great finished it it was like a very great finished it it was like a very great emotional experience but my appreciation emotional experience but my appreciation emotional experience but my appreciation grew after three was announced after I grew after three was announced after I grew after three was announced after I beat three after future redeemed was an beat three after future redeemed was an beat three after future redeemed was an allance after I be future redeemed then allance after I be future redeemed then allance after I be future redeemed then I go back and see all the things in two I go back and see all the things in two I go back and see all the things in two and I appreciate it so much more that and I appreciate it so much more that and I appreciate it so much more that might be the same with Samus returns might be the same with Samus returns might be the same with Samus returns because if I go back and play dread I because if I go back and play dread I because if I go back and play dread I might be like oh this is like a lot of might be like oh this is like a lot of might be like oh this is like a lot of things that were involved in dread you things that were involved in dread you things that were involved in dread you played it after dread though right I did played it after dread though right I did played it after dread though right I did play it after dread and that's another play it after dread and that's another play it after dread and that's another thing like I was talking to some friends thing like I was talking to some friends thing like I was talking to some friends and they were like what if you played and they were like what if you played and they were like what if you played this before dread and I I was like maybe this before dread and I I was like maybe this before dread and I I was like maybe I would have had better appreciation for I would have had better appreciation for I would have had better appreciation for it yeah especially you played it back in it yeah especially you played it back in it yeah especially you played it back in 2017 when it came out yeah where our 2017 when it came out yeah where our 2017 when it came out yeah where our expectations weren't as high because expectations weren't as high because expectations weren't as high because Metro dread like it changes our Metro dread like it changes our Metro dread like it changes our expectations for 2D Metro moving forward expectations for 2D Metro moving forward expectations for 2D Metro moving forward right it is a new standard for what 2D right it is a new standard for what 2D right it is a new standard for what 2D Metroid should be and anything less than Metroid should be and anything less than Metroid should be and anything less than that it's going to be disappointing that it's going to be disappointing that it's going to be disappointing right so I I kind of I kind of see where

  44. right so I I kind of I kind of see where right so I I kind of I kind of see where where you're coming from and I mean In where you're coming from and I mean In where you're coming from and I mean In fairness to the to the tier list right fairness to the to the tier list right fairness to the to the tier list right the tier list is is is not just about the tier list is is is not just about the tier list is is is not just about how good it was at the time right or how good it was at the time right or how good it was at the time right or else I would say that the original Metro else I would say that the original Metro else I would say that the original Metro Prime should be that the very very top Prime should be that the very very top Prime should be that the very very top To the Left Right but it's not it's more To the Left Right but it's not it's more To the Left Right but it's not it's more about it feels like it's a little bit of about it feels like it's a little bit of about it feels like it's a little bit of a hybrid but I think it's it is a hybrid but I think it's it is a hybrid but I think it's it is definitely more so leaning where like definitely more so leaning where like definitely more so leaning where like it's about what is good now right yeah it's about what is good now right yeah it's about what is good now right yeah and so you know to that end I I guess I and so you know to that end I I guess I and so you know to that end I I guess I see where you're coming from it hurts me see where you're coming from it hurts me see where you're coming from it hurts me to like be like hey you know s returns to like be like hey you know s returns to like be like hey you know s returns yeah like it's a to me it's a very good yeah like it's a to me it's a very good yeah like it's a to me it's a very good game I have appreciation for it as well game I have appreciation for it as well game I have appreciation for it as well and one thing beat I did beat itat so and one thing beat I did beat itat so and one thing beat I did beat itat so did you see um the the Ridley like was did you see um the the Ridley like was did you see um the the Ridley like was it I did Ridley some people hate that it I did Ridley some people hate that it I did Ridley some people hate that they added that I love I I think it was they added that I love I I think it was they added that I love I I think it was good I think it was a good fight it was good I think it was a good fight it was good I think it was a good fight it was annoying though it was an annoying fight annoying though it was an annoying fight annoying though it was an annoying fight but it was like annoying in the sense but it was like annoying in the sense but it was like annoying in the sense that like it was long and grueling and I that like it was long and grueling and I that like it was long and grueling and I had so many attempts exciting to me like had so many attempts exciting to me like had so many attempts exciting to me like it's I love that I I will say sam turns it's I love that I I will say sam turns it's I love that I I will say sam turns boss fights um aside from the metroids boss fights um aside from the metroids boss fights um aside from the metroids like the metroids are like in a league like the metroids are like in a league like the metroids are like in a league of its own but I'm going to say the of its own but I'm going to say the of its own but I'm going to say the diggernaut the Metroid Queen and Ridley diggernaut the Metroid Queen and Ridley diggernaut the Metroid Queen and Ridley they're very very very well-designed they're very very very well-designed they're very very very well-designed boss fights in how you use your boss fights in how you use your boss fights in how you use your abilities how you have to take down the abilities how you have to take down the abilities how you have to take down the boss how you have to do different things boss how you have to do different things boss how you have to do different things to manipulate the boss and to get an to manipulate the boss and to get an to manipulate the boss and to get an advantage I just hatte it advantage I just hatte it advantage I just hatte it that there were times where I felt like

  45. that there were times where I felt like that there were times where I felt like I had to do like a perfect run without I had to do like a perfect run without I had to do like a perfect run without getting hit cuz if I was hit like twice getting hit cuz if I was hit like twice getting hit cuz if I was hit like twice I felt like I would die but also I think I felt like I would die but also I think I felt like I would die but also I think I beat that game without getting all the I beat that game without getting all the I beat that game without getting all the energy tanks I got most of them I got at energy tanks I got most of them I got at energy tanks I got most of them I got at least eight if not more but I still least eight if not more but I still least eight if not more but I still found it very difficult but that's also found it very difficult but that's also found it very difficult but that's also again that's what Metroid is that's what again that's what Metroid is that's what again that's what Metroid is that's what Metroid 2 was as well so that's not a Metroid 2 was as well so that's not a Metroid 2 was as well so that's not a super knock against it yeah you know um super knock against it yeah you know um super knock against it yeah you know um can we so can we compromise and say I can we so can we compromise and say I can we so can we compromise and say I mean to me it's either bottom of based mean to me it's either bottom of based mean to me it's either bottom of based off you know like I think bottom of B is off you know like I think bottom of B is off you know like I think bottom of B is good I think oh I was going Bottom of B good I think oh I was going Bottom of B good I think oh I was going Bottom of B you want to put it bottom of B yeah yeah you want to put it bottom of B yeah yeah you want to put it bottom of B yeah yeah we all or or top of c i I was going to I we all or or top of c i I was going to I we all or or top of c i I was going to I was going to settle for top of C but I was going to settle for top of C but I was going to settle for top of C but I don't mind top of C actually do you don't mind top of C actually do you don't mind top of C actually do you prefer a top of C yes I I think we can prefer a top of C yes I I think we can prefer a top of C yes I I think we can leave there I mean the thing is like uh leave there I mean the thing is like uh leave there I mean the thing is like uh like it's definitely better than than like it's definitely better than than like it's definitely better than than than hunters and Metro Other M but is it than hunters and Metro Other M but is it than hunters and Metro Other M but is it as heralded as the goat that is Metro as heralded as the goat that is Metro as heralded as the goat that is Metro Prime pinball and it's not well Metro Prime pinball and it's not well Metro Prime pinball and it's not well Metro Prime pinball is the best pinball game Prime pinball is the best pinball game Prime pinball is the best pinball game but Sam turn is not the best 2D Metro but Sam turn is not the best 2D Metro but Sam turn is not the best 2D Metro all right so I'll I'll let this be here all right so I'll I'll let this be here all right so I'll I'll let this be here for now I'm not going to fight it but I for now I'm not going to fight it but I for now I'm not going to fight it but I will say will say will say this there can't be anything under there this there can't be anything under there this there can't be anything under there can't be anything between Sam returns can't be anything between Sam returns can't be anything between Sam returns and pinball like if you want to put and pinball like if you want to put and pinball like if you want to put something else beat here like then we're something else beat here like then we're something else beat here like then we're we're going to need to shake up with we're going to need to shake up with we're going to need to shake up with with with what we have remaining I think with with what we have remaining I think with with what we have remaining I think we'll be all right I think so too I also we'll be all right I think so too I also we'll be all right I think so too I also kind of like the idea of not going like

  46. kind of like the idea of not going like kind of like the idea of not going like Beyond three per tier but we'll we'll Beyond three per tier but we'll we'll Beyond three per tier but we'll we'll see how I mean if it if if it's there see how I mean if it if if it's there see how I mean if it if if it's there it's there right yeah um so where do you it's there right yeah um so where do you it's there right yeah um so where do you want to go next you want to just jump want to go next you want to just jump want to go next you want to just jump into to dread because that's yeah uh into to dread because that's yeah uh into to dread because that's yeah uh we'll jump into dread and we can be a we'll jump into dread and we can be a we'll jump into dread and we can be a little more quicker with these but yeah little more quicker with these but yeah little more quicker with these but yeah let's jump into dread thing is we kind let's jump into dread thing is we kind let's jump into dread thing is we kind of I guess it's cool to kind of jump of I guess it's cool to kind of jump of I guess it's cool to kind of jump into dread now because dread is you know into dread now because dread is you know into dread now because dread is you know s returns leads into dread right yeah s returns leads into dread right yeah s returns leads into dread right yeah and and and honestly to me Metroid dread is the best honestly to me Metroid dread is the best honestly to me Metroid dread is the best 2D Metroid game oh without a doubt and 2D Metroid game oh without a doubt and 2D Metroid game oh without a doubt and what I love so much about dread is it what I love so much about dread is it what I love so much about dread is it feels so good to play it is such a fluid feels so good to play it is such a fluid feels so good to play it is such a fluid game Samus is so fast so Nimble so quick game Samus is so fast so Nimble so quick game Samus is so fast so Nimble so quick and just even like the wall jumping like and just even like the wall jumping like and just even like the wall jumping like that was one thing I found really that was one thing I found really that was one thing I found really difficult in games like uh Super Metroid difficult in games like uh Super Metroid difficult in games like uh Super Metroid even Metroid Fusion and zero Mission I even Metroid Fusion and zero Mission I even Metroid Fusion and zero Mission I had a little trouble with the wall had a little trouble with the wall had a little trouble with the wall jumping in Metroid dread you just you jumping in Metroid dread you just you jumping in Metroid dread you just you just bounce off the walls it just feels just bounce off the walls it just feels just bounce off the walls it just feels so good to move and play that game yeah so good to move and play that game yeah so good to move and play that game yeah Metroid D is so Metroid D is so Metroid D is so good that if I didn't play Metroid Prime good that if I didn't play Metroid Prime good that if I didn't play Metroid Prime as a as a as a kid I could almost see myself doing like kid I could almost see myself doing like kid I could almost see myself doing like like there are some people who like like there are some people who like like there are some people who like Metroid Dre more than Metro Prime and Metroid Dre more than Metro Prime and Metroid Dre more than Metro Prime and that like I don't that like I don't that like I don't agree but it's definitely like agree but it's definitely like agree but it's definitely like huh I see what just saying right like I huh I see what just saying right like I huh I see what just saying right like I don't I don't think I don't think it's a don't I don't think I don't think it's a don't I don't think I don't think it's a crazy take I think it should be an

  47. crazy take I think it should be an crazy take I think it should be an unpopular take but I think it's not a unpopular take but I think it's not a unpopular take but I think it's not a crazy take and like I mean I think you crazy take and like I mean I think you crazy take and like I mean I think you bring up fantastic points like it's I'm bring up fantastic points like it's I'm bring up fantastic points like it's I'm putting it here but I don't know if you putting it here but I don't know if you putting it here but I don't know if you agree um I this is where I think it agree um I this is where I think it agree um I this is where I think it belongs but yeah I don't know do you belongs but yeah I don't know do you belongs but yeah I don't know do you want to do you want to I I think it can want to do you want to I I think it can want to do you want to I I think it can stay in S I will say um a spoiler for a stay in S I will say um a spoiler for a stay in S I will say um a spoiler for a little later into the video dread I little later into the video dread I little later into the video dread I think is the best 2D Metroid game is not think is the best 2D Metroid game is not think is the best 2D Metroid game is not my personal favorite 2D Metroid game and my personal favorite 2D Metroid game and my personal favorite 2D Metroid game and I I I think it should stay in s though I I I think it should stay in s though I I I think it should stay in s though because it deserves to be there okay the because it deserves to be there okay the because it deserves to be there okay the reason the the one thing that I didn't reason the the one thing that I didn't reason the the one thing that I didn't like about Metroid dread everything was like about Metroid dread everything was like about Metroid dread everything was perfect the gameplay was perfect Sam is perfect the gameplay was perfect Sam is perfect the gameplay was perfect Sam is felt good to play as the story is the felt good to play as the story is the felt good to play as the story is the best story in a Metroid game I think best story in a Metroid game I think best story in a Metroid game I think which is crazy because I don't hype up which is crazy because I don't hype up which is crazy because I don't hype up Metroid as a story heavy game but Metroid as a story heavy game but Metroid as a story heavy game but Metroid dread had a great story and even Metroid dread had a great story and even Metroid dread had a great story and even a I would argue that metr story is a I would argue that metr story is a I would argue that metr story is better than Zelda's story yes you could better than Zelda's story yes you could better than Zelda's story yes you could argue that yes I think you could already argue that yes I think you could already argue that yes I think you could already it's at least more thought out yes and it's at least more thought out yes and it's at least more thought out yes and with the dread it had a absolutely with the dread it had a absolutely with the dread it had a absolutely phenomenal ending like one of the best phenomenal ending like one of the best phenomenal ending like one of the best climaxes of the series but my big knock climaxes of the series but my big knock climaxes of the series but my big knock against dread which was really kind of against dread which was really kind of against dread which was really kind of disappointing was the music I don't disappointing was the music I don't disappointing was the music I don't remember a single song from dread and remember a single song from dread and remember a single song from dread and it's kind of sad yeah Bia like some of it's kind of sad yeah Bia like some of it's kind of sad yeah Bia like some of those songs were B's pretty good yeah those songs were B's pretty good yeah those songs were B's pretty good yeah but like it's no brinstar red soil it's

  48. but like it's no brinstar red soil it's but like it's no brinstar red soil it's no but the thing is Drees dread does no but the thing is Drees dread does no but the thing is Drees dread does have lower brinstar which is pretty good have lower brinstar which is pretty good have lower brinstar which is pretty good I mean it's basically just like a modern I mean it's basically just like a modern I mean it's basically just like a modern version of brinar yeah I it's really version of brinar yeah I it's really version of brinar yeah I it's really good but otherwise I agree with you I I good but otherwise I agree with you I I good but otherwise I agree with you I I I don't I don't disagree with your I don't I don't disagree with your I don't I don't disagree with your overall point that like the music leaves overall point that like the music leaves overall point that like the music leaves something to be desired compared to some something to be desired compared to some something to be desired compared to some of the greats we've heard and like like of the greats we've heard and like like of the greats we've heard and like like I I what I wish I wish every background I I what I wish I wish every background I I what I wish I wish every background was like a a real you know slapper like was like a a real you know slapper like was like a a real you know slapper like it was definitely no bangers what the it was definitely no bangers what the it was definitely no bangers what the the the the cool you know phrase I or the the the cool you know phrase I or the the the cool you know phrase I or lingo I wanted to use but uh yeah I mean lingo I wanted to use but uh yeah I mean lingo I wanted to use but uh yeah I mean I I um I agree with that uh there's some I I um I agree with that uh there's some I I um I agree with that uh there's some good ones but I I wish that it was more good ones but I I wish that it was more good ones but I I wish that it was more well-rounded and I mean like none of well-rounded and I mean like none of well-rounded and I mean like none of music was bad but some of them were just music was bad but some of them were just music was bad but some of them were just kind of like Yep this is music for the kind of like Yep this is music for the kind of like Yep this is music for the grass area it was all right it it was grass area it was all right it it was grass area it was all right it it was ambient but it wasn't like Metroid Prime ambient but it wasn't like Metroid Prime ambient but it wasn't like Metroid Prime one or Super Metroid to me I mean you one or Super Metroid to me I mean you one or Super Metroid to me I mean you also could argue that 2D Metroid games also could argue that 2D Metroid games also could argue that 2D Metroid games didn't have extremely iconic music I didn't have extremely iconic music I didn't have extremely iconic music I think Fusion had a great think Fusion had a great think Fusion had a great soundtrack okay okay I mean I I maybe I soundtrack okay okay I mean I I maybe I soundtrack okay okay I mean I I maybe I should I should I should revisit them um should I should I should revisit them um should I should I should revisit them um and kind of you and kind of you and kind of you know I think part problem is though but know I think part problem is though but know I think part problem is though but I think yeah no I agree with you I guess I think yeah no I agree with you I guess I think yeah no I agree with you I guess the point I wanted to make is just that the point I wanted to make is just that the point I wanted to make is just that uh because the before dread all the

  49. uh because the before dread all the uh because the before dread all the other 2D games were made for older other 2D games were made for older other 2D games were made for older consoles like you know 8bit 16bit consoles like you know 8bit 16bit consoles like you know 8bit 16bit systems there's not you know there's not systems there's not you know there's not systems there's not you know there's not like really like really like really high quality yeah music that's been made high quality yeah music that's been made high quality yeah music that's been made because they're all such old games but because they're all such old games but because they're all such old games but that doesn't mean they can't be bad cuz that doesn't mean they can't be bad cuz that doesn't mean they can't be bad cuz I I love old you know like like tracks I I love old you know like like tracks I I love old you know like like tracks right I I think I should I should right I I think I should I should right I I think I should I should revisit them yeah especially um I revisit them yeah especially um I revisit them yeah especially um I recently went back and listened to some recently went back and listened to some recently went back and listened to some of the songs from Super Metroid and I of the songs from Super Metroid and I of the songs from Super Metroid and I was blown away by what they did with was blown away by what they did with was blown away by what they did with such little Hardware actually yeah such little Hardware actually yeah such little Hardware actually yeah there's Meridia in Super Metroid yeah there's Meridia in Super Metroid yeah there's Meridia in Super Metroid yeah you use it in your podcast yeah it's you use it in your podcast yeah it's you use it in your podcast yeah it's it's yeah and to me it's um um the best it's yeah and to me it's um um the best it's yeah and to me it's um um the best one to me is the end credits of Super one to me is the end credits of Super one to me is the end credits of Super Metroid it's like the first time you Metroid it's like the first time you Metroid it's like the first time you hear like 's theme that Fan Fair and hear like 's theme that Fan Fair and hear like 's theme that Fan Fair and it's it almost feels like a symphony but it's it almost feels like a symphony but it's it almost feels like a symphony but it's on like a snez game and right which it's on like a snez game and right which it's on like a snez game and right which is an incredible ACC yeah for sure I is an incredible ACC yeah for sure I is an incredible ACC yeah for sure I think that's a good segue into Super think that's a good segue into Super think that's a good segue into Super Metroid we can do Super Metroid next I Metroid we can do Super Metroid next I Metroid we can do Super Metroid next I think if we're do do you do you want to think if we're do do you do you want to think if we're do do you do you want to do the three per tier thing I mean do the three per tier thing I mean do the three per tier thing I mean I that'll become a problem I that'll become a problem I that'll become a problem because you put Prime Trilogy because you put Prime Trilogy because you put Prime Trilogy oh yeah and then we have two Metroid oh yeah and then we have two Metroid oh yeah and then we have two Metroid primes in s primes in s primes in s tier yeah I mean I think uh three tier yeah I mean I think uh three tier yeah I mean I think uh three Originals is is a good yeah because the Originals is is a good yeah because the Originals is is a good yeah because the thing is yeah Metroid Prime and Trilogy

  50. thing is yeah Metroid Prime and Trilogy thing is yeah Metroid Prime and Trilogy that's like yeah they're just extra that's like yeah they're just extra that's like yeah they're just extra versions I will say uh like I said versions I will say uh like I said versions I will say uh like I said before the Super Metroid might be my before the Super Metroid might be my before the Super Metroid might be my preferred Metroid 2D experience but I preferred Metroid 2D experience but I preferred Metroid 2D experience but I think dread is a better game so I think think dread is a better game so I think think dread is a better game so I think it should either go high a or low s and it should either go high a or low s and it should either go high a or low s and that that that's my that's my opinion I that that that's my that's my opinion I that that that's my that's my opinion I will say Super Metroid to me is a game will say Super Metroid to me is a game will say Super Metroid to me is a game when I played it it reminded me why I when I played it it reminded me why I when I played it it reminded me why I love video games because it is such love video games because it is such love video games because it is such a it it has the essence of a game it has a it it has the essence of a game it has a it it has the essence of a game it has very tight gameplay very rewarding very tight gameplay very rewarding very tight gameplay very rewarding gameplay very rewarding exploration very gameplay very rewarding exploration very gameplay very rewarding exploration very like immersive atmosphere very iconic like immersive atmosphere very iconic like immersive atmosphere very iconic art Direction the art Direction is art Direction the art Direction is art Direction the art Direction is amazing and it just makes you feel so amazing and it just makes you feel so amazing and it just makes you feel so immersed in the game and you feel so immersed in the game and you feel so immersed in the game and you feel so rewarded in all the small little things rewarded in all the small little things rewarded in all the small little things you accomplish in that game and it's you accomplish in that game and it's you accomplish in that game and it's it's just amazing I think it's aged it's just amazing I think it's aged it's just amazing I think it's aged phenomenally even though it's like a phenomenally even though it's like a phenomenally even though it's like a 1994 game it's aged absolutely 1994 game it's aged absolutely 1994 game it's aged absolutely phenomenally and it I I always say this phenomenally and it I I always say this phenomenally and it I I always say this to people and it doesn't make sense but to people and it doesn't make sense but to people and it doesn't make sense but I think you'll understand what I mean by I think you'll understand what I mean by I think you'll understand what I mean by this Super Metroid is the most video this Super Metroid is the most video this Super Metroid is the most video game video game game video game game video game of all time it is just a g like and you of all time it is just a g like and you of all time it is just a g like and you put it in FS after but I think Super put it in FS after but I think Super put it in FS after but I think Super Metroid embodies so much of what makes a

  51. Metroid embodies so much of what makes a Metroid embodies so much of what makes a good video game in its core it's it's so good video game in its core it's it's so good video game in its core it's it's so hard to explain but it's I I truly feel hard to explain but it's I I truly feel hard to explain but it's I I truly feel that sure no I I I see where you're that sure no I I I see where you're that sure no I I I see where you're coming from um yeah so I mean my coming from um yeah so I mean my coming from um yeah so I mean my perspective I I I've played through and perspective I I I've played through and perspective I I I've played through and be Super Metroid and I remember really be Super Metroid and I remember really be Super Metroid and I remember really enjoying it um I maybe I need to play it enjoying it um I maybe I need to play it enjoying it um I maybe I need to play it a second time so I can better sort of to a second time so I can better sort of to a second time so I can better sort of to find for myself where it ranks um I I find for myself where it ranks um I I find for myself where it ranks um I I agree with the sentiment Super Metroid agree with the sentiment Super Metroid agree with the sentiment Super Metroid should be at least considered to be the should be at least considered to be the should be at least considered to be the second best 2D Metroid ever oh yeah second best 2D Metroid ever oh yeah second best 2D Metroid ever oh yeah right I mean you can argue I'll I'll be right I mean you can argue I'll I'll be right I mean you can argue I'll I'll be good with that if it's second best even good with that if it's second best even good with that if it's second best even though it's my personal favorite I'm though it's my personal favorite I'm though it's my personal favorite I'm going like I I'm just talking about like going like I I'm just talking about like going like I I'm just talking about like for everyone like if we're talking about for everyone like if we're talking about for everyone like if we're talking about although I would argue that from what although I would argue that from what although I would argue that from what I've heard is your mission and then with I've heard is your mission and then with I've heard is your mission and then with Fusion they're may be easier to get into Fusion they're may be easier to get into Fusion they're may be easier to get into because you can just kind of Blitz the because you can just kind of Blitz the because you can just kind of Blitz the story but then that doesn't mean they're story but then that doesn't mean they're story but then that doesn't mean they're necessarily better right necessarily better right necessarily better right um yeah I I guess where where I'm really um yeah I I guess where where I'm really um yeah I I guess where where I'm really having trouble is I agree it's either a having trouble is I agree it's either a having trouble is I agree it's either a tier I personally don't want to put it tier I personally don't want to put it tier I personally don't want to put it in s tier that that's me um I don't feel in s tier that that's me um I don't feel in s tier that that's me um I don't feel like it belongs there um but you know like it belongs there um but you know like it belongs there um but you know maybe that maybe a heathen for that I I maybe that maybe a heathen for that I I maybe that maybe a heathen for that I I think I think High a is good I think I think I think High a is good I think I think I think High a is good I think I guess the question is do you think it guess the question is do you think it guess the question is do you think it goes It goes so it goes it's above Metro goes It goes so it goes it's above Metro goes It goes so it goes it's above Metro Prime 2 and three yes oh yes okay well I Prime 2 and three yes oh yes okay well I Prime 2 and three yes oh yes okay well I guess because you're compromising with

  52. guess because you're compromising with guess because you're compromising with me because I don't want an S here I'll me because I don't want an S here I'll me because I don't want an S here I'll compromise with you and let it go above compromise with you and let it go above compromise with you and let it go above Prime two and three um so do you want to Prime two and three um so do you want to Prime two and three um so do you want to just jump to two then yes we'll jump to just jump to two then yes we'll jump to just jump to two then yes we'll jump to two um two is great I I think two should two um two is great I I think two should two um two is great I I think two should be held above three yes I I love be held above three yes I I love be held above three yes I I love even though I haven't beaten two I think even though I haven't beaten two I think even though I haven't beaten two I think it should be held above it um because it should be held above it um because it should be held above it um because one it it has multiple beams yeah it's one it it has multiple beams yeah it's one it it has multiple beams yeah it's super challenging which is what I like super challenging which is what I like super challenging which is what I like and um it's not as linear which is and um it's not as linear which is and um it's not as linear which is better did a very very good job with its better did a very very good job with its better did a very very good job with its dual World thing with the light World dual World thing with the light World dual World thing with the light World Dark World stuff things are affected in Dark World stuff things are affected in Dark World stuff things are affected in the dark world and you go back to the the dark world and you go back to the the dark world and you go back to the light world and they've changed that was light world and they've changed that was light world and they've changed that was very very very well done and I think the very very very well done and I think the very very very well done and I think the biggest praise I can give Prime 2 is the biggest praise I can give Prime 2 is the biggest praise I can give Prime 2 is the backtracking is so manageable it is so backtracking is so manageable it is so backtracking is so manageable it is so manageable like imagine like everyone manageable like imagine like everyone manageable like imagine like everyone talks about Metro Prime like imagine talks about Metro Prime like imagine talks about Metro Prime like imagine you're in freaking um phas on Minds you you're in freaking um phas on Minds you you're in freaking um phas on Minds you have to go all the way back to Talent have to go all the way back to Talent have to go all the way back to Talent Overworld you have to go through like uh Overworld you have to go through like uh Overworld you have to go through like uh magore Caverns you have to go through magore Caverns you have to go through magore Caverns you have to go through chosa ruins then you go back to Talon chosa ruins then you go back to Talon chosa ruins then you go back to Talon Overworld Prime two ch's map is kind of Overworld Prime two ch's map is kind of Overworld Prime two ch's map is kind of like a circle so wherever you are you like a circle so wherever you are you like a circle so wherever you are you could go to like this place this place could go to like this place this place could go to like this place this place or this place I I know like seeing it on or this place I I know like seeing it on or this place I I know like seeing it on the webcam like I it's it's weird but the webcam like I it's it's weird but the webcam like I it's it's weird but like I don't remember who it was I think like I don't remember who it was I think like I don't remember who it was I think it was King K made a retrospective and

  53. it was King K made a retrospective and it was King K made a retrospective and he had a nice diagram of it how it's he had a nice diagram of it how it's he had a nice diagram of it how it's kind of like a circular map design and kind of like a circular map design and kind of like a circular map design and the temple grounds are in the middle so the temple grounds are in the middle so the temple grounds are in the middle so wherever you are in the game you could wherever you are in the game you could wherever you are in the game you could go like for example if you're in Egon go like for example if you're in Egon go like for example if you're in Egon waste you could go to Sanctuary Fortress waste you could go to Sanctuary Fortress waste you could go to Sanctuary Fortress you could go to a uh the toris bog or you could go to a uh the toris bog or you could go to a uh the toris bog or you could go back to the temple grounds you could go back to the temple grounds you could go back to the temple grounds and having less amount of areas really and having less amount of areas really and having less amount of areas really helped with that and I think that whole helped with that and I think that whole helped with that and I think that whole like Metroid Vania backtracking was done like Metroid Vania backtracking was done like Metroid Vania backtracking was done so much better in that game and of so much better in that game and of so much better in that game and of course it was harder it was more um course it was harder it was more um course it was harder it was more um hostile the environments were more hostile the environments were more hostile the environments were more hostile the bosses were cooler um the hostile the bosses were cooler um the hostile the bosses were cooler um the final boss which you haven't done was oh final boss which you haven't done was oh final boss which you haven't done was oh boy I that that was a struggle boy I that that was a struggle boy I that that was a struggle especially because I ran out of Light especially because I ran out of Light especially because I ran out of Light Beam ammo which was oh God that was very Beam ammo which was oh God that was very Beam ammo which was oh God that was very frustrating yeah yeah you know it would frustrating yeah yeah you know it would frustrating yeah yeah you know it would be cool if they didn't have ammo be cool if they didn't have ammo be cool if they didn't have ammo limitations in uh Ryme two REM yeah I limitations in uh Ryme two REM yeah I limitations in uh Ryme two REM yeah I think a remaster is going to keep that think a remaster is going to keep that think a remaster is going to keep that unfortunately but oh I agree they should unfortunately but oh I agree they should unfortunately but oh I agree they should that that that point becomes a different that that that point becomes a different that that that point becomes a different game like yeah I agree with you you game like yeah I agree with you you game like yeah I agree with you you can't do that although they did add the can't do that although they did add the can't do that although they did add the rapid fire to prime rapid fire to prime rapid fire to prime one it's still different it's different one it's still different it's different one it's still different it's different because there's like I think there's because there's like I think there's because there's like I think there's even like power Ops related to like Amo even like power Ops related to like Amo even like power Ops related to like Amo ammo expansion like you we be talking ammo expansion like you we be talking ammo expansion like you we be talking about changing fundamentally change the about changing fundamentally change the about changing fundamentally change the game play yeah yeah you can't do that I game play yeah yeah you can't do that I game play yeah yeah you can't do that I agree and it it kind of had a reverse agree and it it kind of had a reverse agree and it it kind of had a reverse effect on me where I felt like I was effect on me where I felt like I was effect on me where I felt like I was conserving my ammo so much that I

  54. conserving my ammo so much that I conserving my ammo so much that I wouldn't use my dark and light ammo that wouldn't use my dark and light ammo that wouldn't use my dark and light ammo that that's my problem with it I want to just that's my problem with it I want to just that's my problem with it I want to just be able to enjoy these these really cool be able to enjoy these these really cool be able to enjoy these these really cool beams but you know like yes you can beams but you know like yes you can beams but you know like yes you can still technically fire them when you run still technically fire them when you run still technically fire them when you run out like you can charge and shoot like out like you can charge and shoot like out like you can charge and shoot like like a weaker shot but it's it's slow like a weaker shot but it's it's slow like a weaker shot but it's it's slow and and and annoying um also one another kind of annoying um also one another kind of annoying um also one another kind of negative I had was the sky Temple keys negative I had was the sky Temple keys negative I had was the sky Temple keys were more annoying to get than the choso were more annoying to get than the choso were more annoying to get than the choso artifacts that's why I haven't been it artifacts that's why I haven't been it artifacts that's why I haven't been it yeah it was I I had I just looked all yeah it was I I had I just looked all yeah it was I I had I just looked all them up I do plan on beating Prime two them up I do plan on beating Prime two them up I do plan on beating Prime two by the way I've back I've basically just by the way I've back I've basically just by the way I've back I've basically just been kind of waiting for Prime two to been kind of waiting for Prime two to been kind of waiting for Prime two to come to switch and so when that probably come to switch and so when that probably come to switch and so when that probably Blitz it yeah yeah um so and all another Blitz it yeah yeah um so and all another Blitz it yeah yeah um so and all another thing you know I feel like Prime two thing you know I feel like Prime two thing you know I feel like Prime two like both are good but Prime two has like both are good but Prime two has like both are good but Prime two has multiplayer so oh yeah that puts it over multiplayer so oh yeah that puts it over multiplayer so oh yeah that puts it over the edge for sure I would say all right the edge for sure I would say all right the edge for sure I would say all right so finish off where you put Trilogy so finish off where you put Trilogy so finish off where you put Trilogy F really we need more an F really we need more an F really we need more an F no no I'm joking we'll we'll put F no no I'm joking we'll we'll put F no no I'm joking we'll we'll put it I I think I was going to argue that it I I think I was going to argue that it I I think I was going to argue that trilogy should be like the thing is I trilogy should be like the thing is I trilogy should be like the thing is I think it's a a or an S because Trilogy think it's a a or an S because Trilogy think it's a a or an S because Trilogy for a lot of people they are they still for a lot of people they are they still for a lot of people they are they still say or no yeah they they still say say or no yeah they they still say say or no yeah they they still say Trilogy is the best way to play the Trilogy is the best way to play the Trilogy is the best way to play the trilogy because I'll go you know I'm I'm trilogy because I'll go you know I'm I'm trilogy because I'll go you know I'm I'm going to go as far as saying this yeah going to go as far as saying this yeah going to go as far as saying this yeah and I I I it's just a value proposition and I I I it's just a value proposition and I I I it's just a value proposition yeah it's it's three it's three amazing

  55. yeah it's it's three it's three amazing yeah it's it's three it's three amazing games for the price of one yeah and if games for the price of one yeah and if games for the price of one yeah and if you had got them if you got it on the you had got them if you got it on the you had got them if you got it on the Wii U it was Wii U it was Wii U it was $20 for three some of the best games $20 for three some of the best games $20 for three some of the best games Nintendo's ever made $20 I just want to Nintendo's ever made $20 I just want to Nintendo's ever made $20 I just want to put this in perspective right gamec came put this in perspective right gamec came put this in perspective right gamec came out 2000 uh 2001 Metro Prime launched out 2000 uh 2001 Metro Prime launched out 2000 uh 2001 Metro Prime launched 2002 right Metro Prime Trilogy came out 2002 right Metro Prime Trilogy came out 2002 right Metro Prime Trilogy came out in 2009 it was seven years later so it's in 2009 it was seven years later so it's in 2009 it was seven years later so it's not like these games were old yeah right not like these games were old yeah right not like these games were old yeah right like think about it like this right like think about it like this right like think about it like this right imagine if in 27 like 2017 we got breath imagine if in 27 like 2017 we got breath imagine if in 27 like 2017 we got breath of the wild right we just got tear of of the wild right we just got tear of of the wild right we just got tear of the Kingdom this year but there was the Kingdom this year but there was the Kingdom this year but there was another Zelda game in between and the another Zelda game in between and the another Zelda game in between and the Nintendo put them all three together Nintendo put them all three together Nintendo put them all three together into one collector's pack this year or into one collector's pack this year or into one collector's pack this year or next next year that would be basically next next year that would be basically next next year that would be basically like the equivalent of Trilogy you know like the equivalent of Trilogy you know like the equivalent of Trilogy you know yeah um with and they they the prime one yeah um with and they they the prime one yeah um with and they they the prime one and two had control enhancements and and two had control enhancements and and two had control enhancements and some minor visual changes yeah um that some minor visual changes yeah um that some minor visual changes yeah um that were supposed to be overall improvements were supposed to be overall improvements were supposed to be overall improvements um so it's just it's just purely a value um so it's just it's just purely a value um so it's just it's just purely a value proposition that that's that's why it's proposition that that's that's why it's proposition that that's that's why it's it's fantastic and I remember um it's fantastic and I remember um it's fantastic and I remember um actually on Wii UOP you could play all actually on Wii UOP you could play all actually on Wii UOP you could play all three you can get you were able to three you can get you were able to three you can get you were able to download Trilogy for 20 bucks yeah 20 download Trilogy for 20 bucks yeah 20 download Trilogy for 20 bucks yeah 20 yeah 20 bucks yeah it is that what yeah 20 bucks yeah it is that what yeah 20 bucks yeah it is that what you're saying earlier or just that was you're saying earlier or just that was you're saying earlier or just that was kind of dividing 60 by three I think I kind of dividing 60 by three I think I kind of dividing 60 by three I think I misheard you earlier but um um one misheard you earlier but um um one misheard you earlier but um um one interesting thing I remember I remember interesting thing I remember I remember interesting thing I remember I remember Nintendo life did a video on the top Nintendo life did a video on the top Nintendo life did a video on the top like ranking the best Wii games and I like ranking the best Wii games and I like ranking the best Wii games and I was like oh um it's either going to be was like oh um it's either going to be was like oh um it's either going to be like Prime 3 or Xenoblade 1 at number

  56. like Prime 3 or Xenoblade 1 at number like Prime 3 or Xenoblade 1 at number one right Prime 3 was like number four one right Prime 3 was like number four one right Prime 3 was like number four Mario Galaxy 2 was like number three Mario Galaxy 2 was like number three Mario Galaxy 2 was like number three Xenoblade was number two so I was like Xenoblade was number two so I was like Xenoblade was number two so I was like wait what's better than Xenoblade then wait what's better than Xenoblade then wait what's better than Xenoblade then then it was Metro Prime TR at number one then it was Metro Prime TR at number one then it was Metro Prime TR at number one I was like oh of course Metro Prime I was like oh of course Metro Prime I was like oh of course Metro Prime Trilogy is the best it's it's it's it's Trilogy is the best it's it's it's it's Trilogy is the best it's it's it's it's literally better than Prime 3 cuz it's literally better than Prime 3 cuz it's literally better than Prime 3 cuz it's Prime 3 plus 2 and one yeah exactly um Prime 3 plus 2 and one yeah exactly um Prime 3 plus 2 and one yeah exactly um yeah and we've talked about all the yeah and we've talked about all the yeah and we've talked about all the games individually so yeah but have you games individually so yeah but have you games individually so yeah but have you played the original Metroid I've played played the original Metroid I've played played the original Metroid I've played and beaten the original Metroid you and beaten the original Metroid you and beaten the original Metroid you beaten it wow cuz I've seen someone play beaten it wow cuz I've seen someone play beaten it wow cuz I've seen someone play and beat it and it looks like a very and beat it and it looks like a very and beat it and it looks like a very painful experience I've only played it painful experience I've only played it painful experience I've only played it you know how I played it I played it you know how I played it I played it you know how I played it I played it play on the AER program for 3DS I played play on the AER program for 3DS I played play on the AER program for 3DS I played it uh the demo trial on uh uh BR it uh the demo trial on uh uh BR it uh the demo trial on uh uh BR Chronicle yeah that's crazy the Chronicle yeah that's crazy the Chronicle yeah that's crazy the chronicle and braw I take it you didn't chronicle and braw I take it you didn't chronicle and braw I take it you didn't beat it then oh no I did not I I played beat it then oh no I did not I I played beat it then oh no I did not I I played it and then I went back to playing starf it and then I went back to playing starf it and then I went back to playing starf Fox 64 and I was like I need this game Fox 64 and I was like I need this game Fox 64 and I was like I need this game and then I got her on the Virtual and then I got her on the Virtual and then I got her on the Virtual Console I'll say I think it's at least Console I'll say I think it's at least Console I'll say I think it's at least better than everything else on the in better than everything else on the in better than everything else on the in the DT oh okay so it's better than the DT oh okay so it's better than the DT oh okay so it's better than Metroid Metroid Metroid 2 to me okay well also this is coming 2 to me okay well also this is coming 2 to me okay well also this is coming from a guy who didn't really play Metro from a guy who didn't really play Metro from a guy who didn't really play Metro 2 so I played the beginning of it and I 2 so I played the beginning of it and I 2 so I played the beginning of it and I was like all right well I played s was like all right well I played s was like all right well I played s returns I'm good yeah so I don't know I returns I'm good yeah so I don't know I returns I'm good yeah so I don't know I mean do you disagree like I I think it mean do you disagree like I I think it mean do you disagree like I I think it fits well in there I'm not I think I

  57. fits well in there I'm not I think I fits well in there I'm not I think I think D tier is probably fair just think D tier is probably fair just think D tier is probably fair just because it hasn't aged really well you because it hasn't aged really well you because it hasn't aged really well you want to make an argument there it's want to make an argument there it's want to make an argument there it's better than other the thing is honestly better than other the thing is honestly better than other the thing is honestly I think other has really good G I think I think other has really good G I think I think other has really good G I think Other M uh Prime hunters and Sam returns Other M uh Prime hunters and Sam returns Other M uh Prime hunters and Sam returns are all better than the original despite are all better than the original despite are all better than the original despite how iconic the original is because I I how iconic the original is because I I how iconic the original is because I I saw someone play it like on Discord they saw someone play it like on Discord they saw someone play it like on Discord they were streaming and I saw them play it were streaming and I saw them play it were streaming and I saw them play it and it looked they want to argue it's and it looked they want to argue it's and it looked they want to argue it's worse than Metroid I mean it's one of worse than Metroid I mean it's one of worse than Metroid I mean it's one of the things the things the things because thing is this way I look at it because thing is this way I look at it because thing is this way I look at it Metroid Metroid Metroid one first off from a tech perspective one first off from a tech perspective one first off from a tech perspective they're very comparable right Metroid they're very comparable right Metroid they're very comparable right Metroid one is actually better because it's made one is actually better because it's made one is actually better because it's made for the Home console of the time right for the Home console of the time right for the Home console of the time right um um um it from what I understand Metroid 1 is a it from what I understand Metroid 1 is a it from what I understand Metroid 1 is a is a more comprehensive experience than is a more comprehensive experience than is a more comprehensive experience than two is that does that feel wrong I would two is that does that feel wrong I would two is that does that feel wrong I would say so as well yeah um so it was weird say so as well yeah um so it was weird say so as well yeah um so it was weird is that I I haven't um you know I is that I I haven't um you know I is that I I haven't um you know I haven't played Metroid zero Mission haven't played Metroid zero Mission haven't played Metroid zero Mission right that's the one Metroid game that I right that's the one Metroid game that I right that's the one Metroid game that I haven't actually played at all right um haven't actually played at all right um haven't actually played at all right um but I but I but I have only so I've played Metroid 1 and have only so I've played Metroid 1 and have only so I've played Metroid 1 and I've played all Metroid s returns but I've played all Metroid s returns but I've played all Metroid s returns but I've barely touched Metroid 2 and I I've barely touched Metroid 2 and I I've barely touched Metroid 2 and I barely touched Metroid zero Mission barely touched Metroid zero Mission barely touched Metroid zero Mission right and the thing is zero mission is a right and the thing is zero mission is a right and the thing is zero mission is a remake of Metroid 1 and sounds turns as remake of Metroid 1 and sounds turns as remake of Metroid 1 and sounds turns as a met as a remake of of Metroid 2 right a met as a remake of of Metroid 2 right a met as a remake of of Metroid 2 right so I've played the original number one so I've played the original number one so I've played the original number one but not the remake of number one I've but not the remake of number one I've but not the remake of number one I've played the remake of number two but not played the remake of number two but not played the remake of number two but not the original of number two um but I've

  58. the original of number two um but I've the original of number two um but I've slightly played it so I don't know I slightly played it so I don't know I slightly played it so I don't know I just this feels fair to me it just I just this feels fair to me it just I just this feels fair to me it just I would I would hold Metro one over two I would I would hold Metro one over two I would I would hold Metro one over two I think Metroid has had a very similar think Metroid has had a very similar think Metroid has had a very similar Evolution as Zelda did Zelda's first Evolution as Zelda did Zelda's first Evolution as Zelda did Zelda's first game was iconic but I don't think it's game was iconic but I don't think it's game was iconic but I don't think it's really aged well the second game was really aged well the second game was really aged well the second game was kind of like a black sheep and it it kind of like a black sheep and it it kind of like a black sheep and it it tried to do a lot of things tried to do a lot of things tried to do a lot of things anduh yeah it it doesn't hold up and it anduh yeah it it doesn't hold up and it anduh yeah it it doesn't hold up and it didn't really do them as well as it didn't really do them as well as it didn't really do them as well as it could have the third game was what like could have the third game was what like could have the third game was what like Skyrocket at the franchise Super Metroid Skyrocket at the franchise Super Metroid Skyrocket at the franchise Super Metroid for Metroid and L to the Past for Zelda for Metroid and L to the Past for Zelda for Metroid and L to the Past for Zelda yeah makes sense yeah yeah my only real yeah makes sense yeah yeah my only real yeah makes sense yeah yeah my only real grievance with this list is maybe grievance with this list is maybe grievance with this list is maybe Federation Federation Federation Force somehow we put Federation Force at Force somehow we put Federation Force at Force somehow we put Federation Force at the very the very the very bottom I I in a very holistic sense I bottom I I in a very holistic sense I bottom I I in a very holistic sense I think Federation think Federation think Federation Force just didn't feel like the game Force just didn't feel like the game Force just didn't feel like the game that Metroid needed at that time and that Metroid needed at that time and that Metroid needed at that time and also like you were saying as well like also like you were saying as well like also like you were saying as well like it tried it tried to do something that it tried it tried to do something that it tried it tried to do something that it didn't really do properly like with it didn't really do properly like with it didn't really do properly like with the whole multiplayer stuff and in a few the whole multiplayer stuff and in a few the whole multiplayer stuff and in a few ways it didn't really feel like a ways it didn't really feel like a ways it didn't really feel like a Metroid game to me that's why I felt so Metroid game to me that's why I felt so Metroid game to me that's why I felt so confused when I saw the announcement I confused when I saw the announcement I confused when I saw the announcement I was like is this even Metroid is this was like is this even Metroid is this was like is this even Metroid is this like actually a Metroid game like what like actually a Metroid game like what like actually a Metroid game like what are they trying to do with this and it are they trying to do with this and it are they trying to do with this and it worked out it was like a very lackluster worked out it was like a very lackluster worked out it was like a very lackluster kind of release but I I think it was a

  59. kind of release but I I think it was a kind of release but I I think it was a very sour experience for the Metroid fan very sour experience for the Metroid fan very sour experience for the Metroid fan base at that time also still one of the base at that time also still one of the base at that time also still one of the most disliked Nintendo videos of all most disliked Nintendo videos of all most disliked Nintendo videos of all time on their YouTube channel yeah it's time on their YouTube channel yeah it's time on their YouTube channel yeah it's not that it doesn't have potential it's not that it doesn't have potential it's not that it doesn't have potential it's just not what it yeah it wasn't executed just not what it yeah it wasn't executed just not what it yeah it wasn't executed there just there's we've already talked there just there's we've already talked there just there's we've already talked about the issues so yeah all right I about the issues so yeah all right I about the issues so yeah all right I guess we'll we'll leave it there what do guess we'll we'll leave it there what do guess we'll we'll leave it there what do we what do we put above it we we where we what do we put above it we we where we what do we put above it we we where do we like something's going to be at do we like something's going to be at do we like something's going to be at the bottom like I know other ends the the bottom like I know other ends the the bottom like I know other ends the other Metroid game that's like other Metroid game that's like other Metroid game that's like universally hated right universally hated right universally hated right but it actually is a good game it just but it actually is a good game it just but it actually is a good game it just has yeah some serious blemishes yeah has yeah some serious blemishes yeah has yeah some serious blemishes yeah over ambitious at times kind of forgot over ambitious at times kind of forgot over ambitious at times kind of forgot its roots at times in terms of character its roots at times in terms of character its roots at times in terms of character development yeah also just did some very development yeah also just did some very development yeah also just did some very strange things overall I I like the list strange things overall I I like the list strange things overall I I like the list though yeah we've all we've had though yeah we've all we've had though yeah we've all we've had experience with all the games so that's experience with all the games so that's experience with all the games so that's pretty good yeah but yeah I think that pretty good yeah but yeah I think that pretty good yeah but yeah I think that about does it for this tier list a very about does it for this tier list a very about does it for this tier list a very different kind of EXP podcast episode different kind of EXP podcast episode different kind of EXP podcast episode but with a lot of the hype surrounding but with a lot of the hype surrounding but with a lot of the hype surrounding Metro yeah yeah we'll do this yeah Metro Metro yeah yeah we'll do this yeah Metro Metro yeah yeah we'll do this yeah Metro Prime 4 a lot of hype going around that Prime 4 a lot of hype going around that Prime 4 a lot of hype going around that and I thought I would bring another and I thought I would bring another and I thought I would bring another Metroid expert to discuss this with me I Metroid expert to discuss this with me I Metroid expert to discuss this with me I think I one question I want to leave you think I one question I want to leave you think I one question I want to leave you with and this is going to be the with and this is going to be the with and this is going to be the toughest question of them all where do toughest question of them all where do toughest question of them all where do you think Metroid Prime 4 will end up on

  60. you think Metroid Prime 4 will end up on you think Metroid Prime 4 will end up on this tier list that we just this tier list that we just this tier list that we just created number one one baby yeah like created number one one baby yeah like created number one one baby yeah like I'm I'm I'm like yeah pretty much with the like yeah pretty much with the like yeah pretty much with the anticipation it's got to live up to it anticipation it's got to live up to it anticipation it's got to live up to it I'm I it to me it's number one like that I'm I it to me it's number one like that I'm I it to me it's number one like that I I believe that wholeheartedly I I believe that wholeheartedly I I believe that wholeheartedly now I'll say that you know leading up to now I'll say that you know leading up to now I'll say that you know leading up to the re for of the Kingdom I also thought the re for of the Kingdom I also thought the re for of the Kingdom I also thought that was going to be like number one and that was going to be like number one and that was going to be like number one and the thing is from certain persp angles the thing is from certain persp angles the thing is from certain persp angles like tears of the like tears of the like tears of the Kingdom kind of is right like I mean Kingdom kind of is right like I mean Kingdom kind of is right like I mean like you maybe you like other kinds of like you maybe you like other kinds of like you maybe you like other kinds of games more but it's like breath of the games more but it's like breath of the games more but it's like breath of the wild but a heck of a lot more of it yeah wild but a heck of a lot more of it yeah wild but a heck of a lot more of it yeah and so you know if you want to look at and so you know if you want to look at and so you know if you want to look at it from that perspective it's pretty it from that perspective it's pretty it from that perspective it's pretty good right like so you know I think good right like so you know I think good right like so you know I think Metro Prime I mean yeah I I really do Metro Prime I mean yeah I I really do Metro Prime I mean yeah I I really do think the Metro Prime 4 is going to be think the Metro Prime 4 is going to be think the Metro Prime 4 is going to be that good of a game um you know I I that good of a game um you know I I that good of a game um you know I I think the thing to consider here is think the thing to consider here is think the thing to consider here is that with modern that with modern that with modern technology there's more capability technology there's more capability technology there's more capability right they have a higher it's easier to right they have a higher it's easier to right they have a higher it's easier to make a better game with better with make a better game with better with make a better game with better with newer Tech you know like so that's I newer Tech you know like so that's I newer Tech you know like so that's I think that's something to consider now think that's something to consider now think that's something to consider now obviously there are design flops that obviously there are design flops that obviously there are design flops that occur but you know like metr Dread you occur but you know like metr Dread you occur but you know like metr Dread you know wasn't possible in the past yeah know wasn't possible in the past yeah know wasn't possible in the past yeah you know what what they're exactly what you know what what they're exactly what you know what what they're exactly what Sakamoto says he was like we could have Sakamoto says he was like we could have Sakamoto says he was like we could have done this game on DS we could have done done this game on DS we could have done done this game on DS we could have done it on wiii could have done it on Wii U it on wiii could have done it on Wii U it on wiii could have done it on Wii U but we waited for Nintendo switch to

  61. but we waited for Nintendo switch to but we waited for Nintendo switch to fully achieve our vision and also wanted fully achieve our vision and also wanted fully achieve our vision and also wanted to get a developer like Mercury steam to get a developer like Mercury steam to get a developer like Mercury steam yeah exactly and they had to train with yeah exactly and they had to train with yeah exactly and they had to train with Sam returns yeah but I I think Metroid Sam returns yeah but I I think Metroid Sam returns yeah but I I think Metroid Prime 4 will be up there I in terms of Prime 4 will be up there I in terms of Prime 4 will be up there I in terms of like um hopes and wishes for the game like um hopes and wishes for the game like um hopes and wishes for the game I'm kind of tempering my expectations I'm kind of tempering my expectations I'm kind of tempering my expectations because it didn't I could see in the a because it didn't I could see in the a because it didn't I could see in the a tier like I could see people like maybe tier like I could see people like maybe tier like I could see people like maybe like oh it was a good game but you know like oh it was a good game but you know like oh it was a good game but you know it's yeah the the reason I'm tempering it's yeah the the reason I'm tempering it's yeah the the reason I'm tempering my expectations isn't because I think my expectations isn't because I think my expectations isn't because I think it'll be bad but I just don't want to be it'll be bad but I just don't want to be it'll be bad but I just don't want to be expecting too much and then it doesn't expecting too much and then it doesn't expecting too much and then it doesn't reach all those expectations that's kind reach all those expectations that's kind reach all those expectations that's kind of what happened with tears of the of what happened with tears of the of what happened with tears of the Kingdom even though tears of the kingdom Kingdom even though tears of the kingdom Kingdom even though tears of the kingdom was still amazing I still enjoyed my was still amazing I still enjoyed my was still amazing I still enjoyed my time with it very much one myv F of the time with it very much one myv F of the time with it very much one myv F of the story though the story was not what I story though the story was not what I story though the story was not what I wanted it to be but yeah it's not Z I wanted it to be but yeah it's not Z I wanted it to be but yeah it's not Z I don't want to get into it yeah yeah I don't want to get into it yeah yeah I don't want to get into it yeah yeah I also had a lot of like overinflated also had a lot of like overinflated also had a lot of like overinflated expectations for it but anyways I think expectations for it but anyways I think expectations for it but anyways I think I I have a lot of faith in retro I I I have a lot of faith in retro I I I have a lot of faith in retro I I I I just I know that they're going to I I I just I know that they're going to I I I just I know that they're going to do a very good job with this game do a very good job with this game do a very good job with this game they're very very confident in what they're very very confident in what they're very very confident in what they're like talking about even if you they're like talking about even if you they're like talking about even if you like see things that they talk about on like see things that they talk about on like see things that they talk about on LinkedIn and stuff they're very LinkedIn and stuff they're very LinkedIn and stuff they're very confident in this mystery that is Metro confident in this mystery that is Metro confident in this mystery that is Metro Prime 4 so the small little things we Prime 4 so the small little things we Prime 4 so the small little things we have heard right is yeah yeah is this is have heard right is yeah yeah is this is have heard right is yeah yeah is this is going to be a good game right but then

  62. going to be a good game right but then going to be a good game right but then what does that mean you know because I what does that mean you know because I what does that mean you know because I it's hard to say the thing is like what it's hard to say the thing is like what it's hard to say the thing is like what if it's like a Metro Prime 2 Metro Prime if it's like a Metro Prime 2 Metro Prime if it's like a Metro Prime 2 Metro Prime 3 quality game first off that's really 3 quality game first off that's really 3 quality game first off that's really good but the thing is let's put this in good but the thing is let's put this in good but the thing is let's put this in perspective though that kind of quality perspective though that kind of quality perspective though that kind of quality but made for the Modern but made for the Modern but made for the Modern Standard might be in the S tier you know Standard might be in the S tier you know Standard might be in the S tier you know what I mean yeah right because it's what I mean yeah right because it's what I mean yeah right because it's those are those are games made for the those are those are games made for the those are those are games made for the GameCube and the Wii right like we're GameCube and the Wii right like we're GameCube and the Wii right like we're talking about something made for the talking about something made for the talking about something made for the switch and the switch 2 yeah so it's switch and the switch 2 yeah so it's switch and the switch 2 yeah so it's going be different I just hope that this going be different I just hope that this going be different I just hope that this game really puts Metroid on the map game really puts Metroid on the map game really puts Metroid on the map because the series really deserves it because the series really deserves it because the series really deserves it sometimes I think like when I saw prime sometimes I think like when I saw prime sometimes I think like when I saw prime one got a remaster I was expecting it to one got a remaster I was expecting it to one got a remaster I was expecting it to put Metroid on the map but it didn't put Metroid on the map but it didn't put Metroid on the map but it didn't really do that so I'm hoping that this really do that so I'm hoping that this really do that so I'm hoping that this game with really good Gunplay with game with really good Gunplay with game with really good Gunplay with really good immerse immersive like really good immerse immersive like really good immerse immersive like combat and exploration I really hope a combat and exploration I really hope a combat and exploration I really hope a lot of like the FPS fans take a look at lot of like the FPS fans take a look at lot of like the FPS fans take a look at this and be like hey this is this is this and be like hey this is this is this and be like hey this is this is something this is cool this is a badass something this is cool this is a badass something this is cool this is a badass game that I can like play alongside game that I can like play alongside game that I can like play alongside something like Doom or Halo or I mean it something like Doom or Halo or I mean it something like Doom or Halo or I mean it it may not be at that caliber but like it may not be at that caliber but like it may not be at that caliber but like you said we have people who have worked you said we have people who have worked you said we have people who have worked on those games who are working on on those games who are working on on those games who are working on Metroid Prime I don't see why to be Metroid Prime I don't see why to be Metroid Prime I don't see why to be honest with you I don't see why it honest with you I don't see why it honest with you I don't see why it wouldn't be um well I mean from a pure wouldn't be um well I mean from a pure wouldn't be um well I mean from a pure shooting game perspective right like if shooting game perspective right like if shooting game perspective right like if it's more of a focus on adventure then it's more of a focus on adventure then it's more of a focus on adventure then maybe the shooting is lacking right for maybe the shooting is lacking right for maybe the shooting is lacking right for example breath L is the kingdom they are example breath L is the kingdom they are example breath L is the kingdom they are incredible adventure games but are they

  63. incredible adventure games but are they incredible adventure games but are they the best like sword fighting action game the best like sword fighting action game the best like sword fighting action game no so there is a little bit of that yeah no so there is a little bit of that yeah no so there is a little bit of that yeah but I I think I think for Metro I feel but I I think I think for Metro I feel but I I think I think for Metro I feel like Metro Prime 4 they need they do like Metro Prime 4 they need they do like Metro Prime 4 they need they do definitely should like modernize the the definitely should like modernize the the definitely should like modernize the the shooting controls and given the talent shooting controls and given the talent shooting controls and given the talent that they've hired I think that that is that they've hired I think that that is that they've hired I think that that is something that they will be able to something that they will be able to something that they will be able to accomplish yeah I think the game is in accomplish yeah I think the game is in accomplish yeah I think the game is in good hands but with that I think we'll good hands but with that I think we'll good hands but with that I think we'll close it out for this episode of the EXP close it out for this episode of the EXP close it out for this episode of the EXP podcast thank you so much Andre star for podcast thank you so much Andre star for podcast thank you so much Andre star for joining it's so awesome to be collabing joining it's so awesome to be collabing joining it's so awesome to be collabing with you especially on my channel I I've with you especially on my channel I I've with you especially on my channel I I've been on some of your podcasts and been on some of your podcasts and been on some of your podcasts and discussions before and I've talk to you discussions before and I've talk to you discussions before and I've talk to you on various other channels but this time on various other channels but this time on various other channels but this time it's on mine and it's it's been a really it's on mine and it's it's been a really it's on mine and it's it's been a really awesome time doing this with you and awesome time doing this with you and awesome time doing this with you and yeah if somehow some of my uh yeah if somehow some of my uh yeah if somehow some of my uh subscribers and people watching this subscribers and people watching this subscribers and people watching this video have not subscribed to Andress video have not subscribed to Andress video have not subscribed to Andress restart go give him a subscribe because restart go give him a subscribe because restart go give him a subscribe because he will be your go-to place this year he will be your go-to place this year he will be your go-to place this year for Nintendo stuff Nintendo is going to for Nintendo stuff Nintendo is going to for Nintendo stuff Nintendo is going to have a very good 2024 as he is talking have a very good 2024 as he is talking have a very good 2024 as he is talking about especially with Next Generation about especially with Next Generation about especially with Next Generation console Metro Prime 4 Mario stuff maybe console Metro Prime 4 Mario stuff maybe console Metro Prime 4 Mario stuff maybe potentially some Zelda stuff as well so potentially some Zelda stuff as well so potentially some Zelda stuff as well so go check out his stuff he has a very go check out his stuff he has a very go check out his stuff he has a very very good YouTube videos and I I I like very good YouTube videos and I I I like very good YouTube videos and I I I like to say that he's not the kind of guy to say that he's not the kind of guy to say that he's not the kind of guy who's very deceiving with his content who's very deceiving with his content who's very deceiving with his content not that anyone really is but he's got not that anyone really is but he's got not that anyone really is but he's got very honest genuine content and I'm a very honest genuine content and I'm a very honest genuine content and I'm a real fan of his so check him out yeah

  64. real fan of his so check him out yeah real fan of his so check him out yeah especially like a lot of some of my especially like a lot of some of my especially like a lot of some of my followers and subscribers subscribe for followers and subscribers subscribe for followers and subscribers subscribe for jrpg stuff but andr restart is a fullon jrpg stuff but andr restart is a fullon jrpg stuff but andr restart is a fullon Nintendo switch guy and there's still a Nintendo switch guy and there's still a Nintendo switch guy and there's still a lot of jpgs on switch that is like the lot of jpgs on switch that is like the lot of jpgs on switch that is like the best way to play them so yeah give him best way to play them so yeah give him best way to play them so yeah give him give him some love and yeah thanks again give him some love and yeah thanks again give him some love and yeah thanks again for joining and yeah this has been andr for joining and yeah this has been andr for joining and yeah this has been andr restart and Nish quck pops again for the restart and Nish quck pops again for the restart and Nish quck pops again for the EXP podcast thank you so much for EXP podcast thank you so much for EXP podcast thank you so much for watching go play some great games today watching go play some great games today watching go play some great games today like a Metroid game on the Nintendo like a Metroid game on the Nintendo like a Metroid game on the Nintendo switch I'll see you guys in the next one switch I'll see you guys in the next one switch I'll see you guys in the next one later

Summary

The main theme is a Metroid tier list discussion on the EXP podcast, inspired by the anticipation of Metroid Prime 4. Key subjects include various Metroid games and the influence of Nintendo YouTuber Andress Restart. The practical takeaway is to engage with and rank the Metroid franchise, acknowledging that not all participants have played every game but possess complementary knowledge.

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