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Nishquik Pops January 13, 2025 1h 21m

The CRAZIEST Xenoblade Chronicles X Definitive Edition Theories! EXP Podcast ep. 24 ft. @DumbXeno

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  1. hey guys Nish Qui here welcome back to hey guys Nish Qui here welcome back to another episode of the EXP podcast and I another episode of the EXP podcast and I another episode of the EXP podcast and I am very happy to be joined today by my am very happy to be joined today by my am very happy to be joined today by my buddy Jake from Dum Zeno um some of you buddy Jake from Dum Zeno um some of you buddy Jake from Dum Zeno um some of you guys who like know Xenoblade content guys who like know Xenoblade content guys who like know Xenoblade content might have seen some of his videos he's might have seen some of his videos he's might have seen some of his videos he's done a little bit of a Hiatus but he's done a little bit of a Hiatus but he's done a little bit of a Hiatus but he's made some amazing amazing content you made some amazing amazing content you made some amazing amazing content you guys should give him a watch and guys should give him a watch and guys should give him a watch and throughout my like time playing X and throughout my like time playing X and throughout my like time playing X and like live streaming X we were always like live streaming X we were always like live streaming X we were always talking about like hey is this Canon talking about like hey is this Canon talking about like hey is this Canon what's going to happen and it was always what's going to happen and it was always what's going to happen and it was always like he was always telling me like wait like he was always telling me like wait like he was always telling me like wait till the end wait till the end and I saw till the end wait till the end and I saw till the end wait till the end and I saw the end and then I started thinking and the end and then I started thinking and the end and then I started thinking and I sort of like believed some stuff and I sort of like believed some stuff and I sort of like believed some stuff and now after this trailer I'm I'm totally now after this trailer I'm I'm totally now after this trailer I'm I'm totally on board so you want to introduce on board so you want to introduce on board so you want to introduce yourself talk a little bit about that yourself talk a little bit about that yourself talk a little bit about that Jake yeah I'm Jake uh Dum Zeno made a Jake yeah I'm Jake uh Dum Zeno made a Jake yeah I'm Jake uh Dum Zeno made a couple videos is about Zen Blade 3 and couple videos is about Zen Blade 3 and couple videos is about Zen Blade 3 and it's lore connecting it back to 1 and it's lore connecting it back to 1 and it's lore connecting it back to 1 and two and uh I've been on the X's Cannon two and uh I've been on the X's Cannon two and uh I've been on the X's Cannon train for quite a while now and I'm glad train for quite a while now and I'm glad train for quite a while now and I'm glad that everybody is starting to see the that everybody is starting to see the that everybody is starting to see the light here light here light here yeah it was funny like I'm very excited yeah it was funny like I'm very excited yeah it was funny like I'm very excited yeah so you were on our conduit cast yeah so you were on our conduit cast yeah so you were on our conduit cast episode with me and Kevin and we were episode with me and Kevin and we were episode with me and Kevin and we were talking about like ionio moments and all talking about like ionio moments and all talking about like ionio moments and all the lore from that and all that and the lore from that and all that and the lore from that and all that and that's where you kind of dropped like oh that's where you kind of dropped like oh that's where you kind of dropped like oh yeah I after like some stuff I'm I'm yeah I after like some stuff I'm I'm yeah I after like some stuff I'm I'm really convinced that X is Cannon and we really convinced that X is Cannon and we really convinced that X is Cannon and we were like what and me cuz I hadn't like were like what and me cuz I hadn't like were like what and me cuz I hadn't like got to the thick of it with X so I was got to the thick of it with X so I was got to the thick of it with X so I was like what I I I just I can't see it I

  2. like what I I I just I can't see it I like what I I I just I can't see it I can't see it but then we talked about it can't see it but then we talked about it can't see it but then we talked about it more especially after I finished the more especially after I finished the more especially after I finished the game and there's a lot to get into here game and there's a lot to get into here game and there's a lot to get into here but yeah I I think we'll be blown away but yeah I I think we'll be blown away but yeah I I think we'll be blown away by the end of this new Definitive by the end of this new Definitive by the end of this new Definitive Edition I'm I'm just I'm very happy that Edition I'm I'm just I'm very happy that Edition I'm I'm just I'm very happy that everyone can experien this but what what everyone can experien this but what what everyone can experien this but what what were your thoughts on the trailer just were your thoughts on the trailer just were your thoughts on the trailer just in general that we got this week I in general that we got this week I in general that we got this week I thought it was I thought it was good um thought it was I thought it was good um thought it was I thought it was good um I think they're really trying to show I think they're really trying to show I think they're really trying to show that it's like this new content it's not that it's like this new content it's not that it's like this new content it's not just going to be like some story that's just going to be like some story that's just going to be like some story that's slapped on to the end but I think slapped on to the end but I think slapped on to the end but I think they're really going to bring X to its they're really going to bring X to its they're really going to bring X to its like original Vision that uh that they like original Vision that uh that they like original Vision that uh that they wanted the the only thing is wanted the the only thing is wanted the the only thing is unfortunately we won't have the original unfortunately we won't have the original unfortunately we won't have the original protagonist but that's fine he right protagonist but that's fine he right protagonist but that's fine he right yeah oh also I forgot to mention this yeah oh also I forgot to mention this yeah oh also I forgot to mention this but massive spoiler for all Xenoblade but massive spoiler for all Xenoblade but massive spoiler for all Xenoblade games including Xenoblade X I don't games including Xenoblade X I don't games including Xenoblade X I don't think we'll spoil Saga or gear as much think we'll spoil Saga or gear as much think we'll spoil Saga or gear as much in this but for all the games including in this but for all the games including in this but for all the games including especially X spoilers but yeah no but especially X spoilers but yeah no but especially X spoilers but yeah no but that that reminder me to give that that that reminder me to give that that that reminder me to give that spoiler warning cuz I was going to say spoiler warning cuz I was going to say spoiler warning cuz I was going to say that original protagonist will most that original protagonist will most that original protagonist will most likely still be in the game but he just likely still be in the game but he just likely still be in the game but he just won't be the protagonist of the game won't be the protagonist of the game won't be the protagonist of the game right yeah who is he do you remember who right yeah who is he do you remember who right yeah who is he do you remember who he was like supposed to be in the he was like supposed to be in the he was like supposed to be in the context of the story was it so I I don't context of the story was it so I I don't context of the story was it so I I don't know if he was going to be like the main know if he was going to be like the main know if he was going to be like the main character that you play as character that you play as character that you play as because yes so he is the Lone Hero he is because yes so he is the Lone Hero he is because yes so he is the Lone Hero he is elma's partner the Lone Hero but in the

  3. elma's partner the Lone Hero but in the elma's partner the Lone Hero but in the context of playing the game and the context of playing the game and the context of playing the game and the story that they've set up it doesn't story that they've set up it doesn't story that they've set up it doesn't make sense that he would be a playable make sense that he would be a playable make sense that he would be a playable character because he he fights The Ghost character because he he fights The Ghost character because he he fights The Ghost and he's gone for the rest of the game and he's gone for the rest of the game and he's gone for the rest of the game so it just doesn't make sense that he so it just doesn't make sense that he so it just doesn't make sense that he would be the protagonist but I think in would be the protagonist but I think in would be the protagonist but I think in early early Concepts he was planned to early early Concepts he was planned to early early Concepts he was planned to be the protagonist and Elma as the be the protagonist and Elma as the be the protagonist and Elma as the deuteragonist if sort of like a Noah and deuteragonist if sort of like a Noah and deuteragonist if sort of like a Noah and Mi thing I guess which which makes sense Mi thing I guess which which makes sense Mi thing I guess which which makes sense later we'll talk about that later yeah later we'll talk about that later yeah later we'll talk about that later yeah we'll talk about that later there's a we'll talk about that later there's a we'll talk about that later there's a lot of I think there's a lot of lot of I think there's a lot of lot of I think there's a lot of interesting stuff that we can get into interesting stuff that we can get into interesting stuff that we can get into about him cuz he really is tying about him cuz he really is tying about him cuz he really is tying into like the the most core mysteries of into like the the most core mysteries of into like the the most core mysteries of X and also its connection back to the X and also its connection back to the X and also its connection back to the other uh games in the series so oh yeah other uh games in the series so oh yeah other uh games in the series so oh yeah there was there was a one shot in this there was there was a one shot in this there was there was a one shot in this trailer which we'll talk about later trailer which we'll talk about later trailer which we'll talk about later which just kind of blew my mind I didn't which just kind of blew my mind I didn't which just kind of blew my mind I didn't even see it at the F like the the first even see it at the F like the the first even see it at the F like the the first time I watch the trailer but like time I watch the trailer but like time I watch the trailer but like overall the trailer really good I think overall the trailer really good I think overall the trailer really good I think this is kind of recency bias but it this is kind of recency bias but it this is kind of recency bias but it might be one of my favorite Xenoblade might be one of my favorite Xenoblade might be one of my favorite Xenoblade trailers we've got like with the editing trailers we've got like with the editing trailers we've got like with the editing and the cuts and the music and the lines and the cuts and the music and the lines and the cuts and the music and the lines of dialogue they used and how they were of dialogue they used and how they were of dialogue they used and how they were showing off the new content it was very showing off the new content it was very showing off the new content it was very well done I think um other ones are like well done I think um other ones are like well done I think um other ones are like all all the Zeno Blade 3 trailers are all all the Zeno Blade 3 trailers are all all the Zeno Blade 3 trailers are good specifically like the release date good specifically like the release date good specifically like the release date trailer and the direct trailer were good trailer and the direct trailer were good trailer and the direct trailer were good I really like the Xenoblade 2 reveal I really like the Xenoblade 2 reveal I really like the Xenoblade 2 reveal trailer as well but this one it's it's trailer as well but this one it's it's trailer as well but this one it's it's like up there yeah I remember the Zen like up there yeah I remember the Zen like up there yeah I remember the Zen Blade 3 reveal trailer that was that was Blade 3 reveal trailer that was that was Blade 3 reveal trailer that was that was uh cool just hearing the flute for the

  4. uh cool just hearing the flute for the uh cool just hearing the flute for the first time like I was like this and then first time like I was like this and then first time like I was like this and then seeing vanam and Melia and Nia I was seeing vanam and Melia and Nia I was seeing vanam and Melia and Nia I was like what is going on with yeah and oh like what is going on with yeah and oh like what is going on with yeah and oh how is Mia here yeah also another crazy how is Mia here yeah also another crazy how is Mia here yeah also another crazy zero blade trailer was the 15 second zero blade trailer was the 15 second zero blade trailer was the 15 second future redeemed te's we got oh God that future redeemed te's we got oh God that future redeemed te's we got oh God that was that was hilarious that one was was that was hilarious that one was was that was hilarious that one was really good just seeing shul Rex back really good just seeing shul Rex back really good just seeing shul Rex back see sh Rex against zad that was I I just see sh Rex against zad that was I I just see sh Rex against zad that was I I just couldn't speak for a bit it was insane couldn't speak for a bit it was insane couldn't speak for a bit it was insane but I I like that you mentioned earlier but I I like that you mentioned earlier but I I like that you mentioned earlier that yeah we don't know if this is just that yeah we don't know if this is just that yeah we don't know if this is just going to be extra content tacked on to going to be extra content tacked on to going to be extra content tacked on to the end of the game or if it's going to the end of the game or if it's going to the end of the game or if it's going to be substantially like more content be substantially like more content be substantially like more content included into the base game as well included into the base game as well included into the base game as well because um I I don't like I think we because um I I don't like I think we because um I I don't like I think we talked about this I don't think you've talked about this I don't think you've talked about this I don't think you've played Persona 5 Royal but um I yeah I played Persona 5 Royal but um I yeah I played Persona 5 Royal but um I yeah I mentioned in my video about the trailer mentioned in my video about the trailer mentioned in my video about the trailer that I think they might do this like a that I think they might do this like a that I think they might do this like a personify royal like Definitive Edition personify royal like Definitive Edition personify royal like Definitive Edition thing cuz personify vanilla was just thing cuz personify vanilla was just thing cuz personify vanilla was just like the base game and then personify like the base game and then personify like the base game and then personify Royal was like the definitive edition Royal was like the definitive edition Royal was like the definitive edition where they added content like where they added content like where they added content like substantial content at the end of the substantial content at the end of the substantial content at the end of the game as like an epilog but then game as like an epilog but then game as like an epilog but then dispersed in between the game there was dispersed in between the game there was dispersed in between the game there was like interactions of new characters new like interactions of new characters new like interactions of new characters new scenarios new events things like that so scenarios new events things like that so scenarios new events things like that so that's where I think that like pilot that's where I think that like pilot that's where I think that like pilot who's piloting the original Black Knight who's piloting the original Black Knight who's piloting the original Black Knight scale will factor in maybe Neil Nell scale will factor in maybe Neil Nell scale will factor in maybe Neil Nell will factor in there maybe not in story will factor in there maybe not in story will factor in there maybe not in story details because I was thinking like oh

  5. details because I was thinking like oh details because I was thinking like oh maybe they'll be in like you you'll find maybe they'll be in like you you'll find maybe they'll be in like you you'll find them in syum and oblivia when you're in them in syum and oblivia when you're in them in syum and oblivia when you're in there in the story or they might just there in the story or they might just there in the story or they might just have Affinity missions and stuff so what have Affinity missions and stuff so what have Affinity missions and stuff so what do you think about that that pilot that do you think about that that pilot that do you think about that that pilot that pilot is very interesting because pilot is very interesting because pilot is very interesting because it it shows that I guess they're I guess it it shows that I guess they're I guess it it shows that I guess they're I guess they can't be going for the same story they can't be going for the same story they can't be going for the same story that they once planned like exactly if that they once planned like exactly if that they once planned like exactly if they're going to be giving this skull to they're going to be giving this skull to they're going to be giving this skull to this person and now seems like the Lone this person and now seems like the Lone this person and now seems like the Lone Hero is going to be piloting the Aries Hero is going to be piloting the Aries Hero is going to be piloting the Aries the Aries yeah so I don't know how the Aries yeah so I don't know how the Aries yeah so I don't know how that's they're also a member of Blade that's they're also a member of Blade that's they're also a member of Blade yes they have the blade like logo on yes they have the blade like logo on yes they have the blade like logo on their chest right yeah and a lot of their chest right yeah and a lot of their chest right yeah and a lot of people were wondering like is that just people were wondering like is that just people were wondering like is that just a robot that's why you don't see their a robot that's why you don't see their a robot that's why you don't see their face because there's no face underneath face because there's no face underneath face because there's no face underneath or is it actually someone underneath I I or is it actually someone underneath I I or is it actually someone underneath I I feel like it's someone underneath feel like it's someone underneath feel like it's someone underneath but yeah it's very interesting that they but yeah it's very interesting that they but yeah it's very interesting that they didn't show their face though so that's didn't show their face though so that's didn't show their face though so that's the voice actress seems to be Erica the voice actress seems to be Erica the voice actress seems to be Erica lindbeck who like it's very awesome that lindbeck who like it's very awesome that lindbeck who like it's very awesome that she's going to be in Xenoblade for the she's going to be in Xenoblade for the she's going to be in Xenoblade for the first time cuz she's in like so many first time cuz she's in like so many first time cuz she's in like so many other games she was in uh she was Futaba other games she was in uh she was Futaba other games she was in uh she was Futaba in Persona 5 she was Celica in Fire in Persona 5 she was Celica in Fire in Persona 5 she was Celica in Fire Emblem she was um I I just thought of Emblem she was um I I just thought of Emblem she was um I I just thought of another oh she was black cat and another oh she was black cat and another oh she was black cat and Spider-Man as well so she she's been in Spider-Man as well so she she's been in Spider-Man as well so she she's been in a lot of video games so I'm glad she's a lot of video games so I'm glad she's a lot of video games so I'm glad she's in Xenoblade but yeah I think I don't in Xenoblade but yeah I think I don't in Xenoblade but yeah I think I don't think she'll be like a human MIM like think she'll be like a human MIM like think she'll be like a human MIM like any other person I think she might be any other person I think she might be any other person I think she might be like a um I don't think she'll be claran

  6. like a um I don't think she'll be claran like a um I don't think she'll be claran she might be like some kind of other she might be like some kind of other she might be like some kind of other race within meor or something so you race within meor or something so you race within meor or something so you don't think she'll be a m she'll have don't think she'll be a m she'll have don't think she'll be a m she'll have her real body or her real body or her real body or whatever that's that's tough because whatever that's that's tough because whatever that's that's tough because because the only because the only because the only nonhuman non Mims who are part of Blade nonhuman non Mims who are part of Blade nonhuman non Mims who are part of Blade are cic and rock right I think so yeah are cic and rock right I think so yeah are cic and rock right I think so yeah then then she might actually be a human then then she might actually be a human then then she might actually be a human I don't know but that that armor and I don't know but that that armor and I don't know but that that armor and that mask are very strange it's so that mask are very strange it's so that mask are very strange it's so unique like and it it almost it just unique like and it it almost it just unique like and it it almost it just maybe it's just new almost doesn't feel maybe it's just new almost doesn't feel maybe it's just new almost doesn't feel like axe a little bit it almost doesn't like axe a little bit it almost doesn't like axe a little bit it almost doesn't feel like yeah I get that because a lot feel like yeah I get that because a lot feel like yeah I get that because a lot of people are saying it gives near Vibes of people are saying it gives near Vibes of people are saying it gives near Vibes as well I totally see that but it it it as well I totally see that but it it it as well I totally see that but it it it feels a little out of place but it's feels a little out of place but it's feels a little out of place but it's very telling that she has that mask on very telling that she has that mask on very telling that she has that mask on also I'm I'm very happy we finally get also I'm I'm very happy we finally get also I'm I'm very happy we finally get Neil Nell in this game cuz she was Neil Nell in this game cuz she was Neil Nell in this game cuz she was teased in the art book I wanted her back teased in the art book I wanted her back teased in the art book I wanted her back in this version and we finally got her in this version and we finally got her in this version and we finally got her that's great I mentioned this in my that's great I mentioned this in my that's great I mentioned this in my video but those two skills that she video but those two skills that she video but those two skills that she controls it it gives me um Alo from controls it it gives me um Alo from controls it it gives me um Alo from future redeemed Vibes or not even that future redeemed Vibes or not even that future redeemed Vibes or not even that but just like faces of origin like but just like faces of origin like but just like faces of origin like there's two of them so I'm like is there there's two of them so I'm like is there there's two of them so I'm like is there some anima animus thing going on here I some anima animus thing going on here I some anima animus thing going on here I don't know it's definitely uh it's like don't know it's definitely uh it's like don't know it's definitely uh it's like a recurring theme in the Zeno series to a recurring theme in the Zeno series to a recurring theme in the Zeno series to have like big mechs with a weird like have like big mechs with a weird like have like big mechs with a weird like robot looking face robot looking face robot looking face like uh that's iron also has the same

  7. like uh that's iron also has the same like uh that's iron also has the same face face face in all of the face Mech on and Xenoblade in all of the face Mech on and Xenoblade in all of the face Mech on and Xenoblade one right yeah of course and something one right yeah of course and something one right yeah of course and something interesting also is their cion and the C interesting also is their cion and the C interesting also is their cion and the C luar also says at one point that the luar also says at one point that the luar also says at one point that the clue or sorry the Tron barrier comes clue or sorry the Tron barrier comes clue or sorry the Tron barrier comes from the clue system mhm and that's some from the clue system mhm and that's some from the clue system mhm and that's some technology that Elma had given to Earth technology that Elma had given to Earth technology that Elma had given to Earth so oh yeah so a lot of people were so oh yeah so a lot of people were so oh yeah so a lot of people were talking about that in their videos and I talking about that in their videos and I talking about that in their videos and I completely forgot about that you're completely forgot about that you're completely forgot about that you're right right so it's just what is their right right so it's just what is their right right so it's just what is their what is the like connection to do do what is the like connection to do do what is the like connection to do do you think that techology so ELO brought you think that techology so ELO brought you think that techology so ELO brought skells the lifeold and the Tron barrier skells the lifeold and the Tron barrier skells the lifeold and the Tron barrier so I my thing is like do scales so I my thing is like do scales so I my thing is like do scales originate from elma's world or from the originate from elma's world or from the originate from elma's world or from the clue that's that's another thing I'm clue that's that's another thing I'm clue that's that's another thing I'm wondering now I think it must be a mix wondering now I think it must be a mix wondering now I think it must be a mix of both I think maybe like the claran I of both I think maybe like the claran I of both I think maybe like the claran I think all the technology kind of goes think all the technology kind of goes think all the technology kind of goes back to what technology is being back to what technology is being back to what technology is being developed in three like C Blade developed in three like C Blade developed in three like C Blade 3 uh and then all these other like 3 uh and then all these other like 3 uh and then all these other like future races I guess maybe over time future races I guess maybe over time future races I guess maybe over time ReDiscover this technology and use it uh ReDiscover this technology and use it uh ReDiscover this technology and use it uh CU it like skills at the end of the day CU it like skills at the end of the day CU it like skills at the end of the day they're kind of like or Boris farms at a

  8. they're kind of like or Boris farms at a they're kind of like or Boris farms at a lower techn technological level so yeah lower techn technological level so yeah lower techn technological level so yeah it's definitely weird it's like I I to it's definitely weird it's like I I to it's definitely weird it's like I I to get this out of the way first because a get this out of the way first because a get this out of the way first because a lot of people when they try to connect x lot of people when they try to connect x lot of people when they try to connect x to the other games they always try to do to the other games they always try to do to the other games they always try to do it through the lens of the clous it through the lens of the clous it through the lens of the clous experiment and that is that's that's experiment and that is that's that's experiment and that is that's that's wrong that's wrong and I've always said wrong that's wrong and I've always said wrong that's wrong and I've always said like it is impossible to connect X like it is impossible to connect X like it is impossible to connect X through the class experiment the clous through the class experiment the clous through the class experiment the clous experiment happened and the events of X experiment happened and the events of X experiment happened and the events of X are just completely different I think if are just completely different I think if are just completely different I think if x is connected it is far into the future x is connected it is far into the future x is connected it is far into the future like far far far into the future I think like far far far into the future I think like far far far into the future I think them calling I think putting earthlife them calling I think putting earthlife them calling I think putting earthlife colonization project into the end of colonization project into the end of colonization project into the end of future redem didn't help as well because future redem didn't help as well because future redem didn't help as well because it kind of off right because people were it kind of off right because people were it kind of off right because people were like oh they started to consider maybe like oh they started to consider maybe like oh they started to consider maybe oh maybe X is Canon and then they look oh maybe X is Canon and then they look oh maybe X is Canon and then they look at think about it a little bit more it's at think about it a little bit more it's at think about it a little bit more it's like wait there's no way this is Canon like wait there's no way this is Canon like wait there's no way this is Canon like the most Takahashi thing that like the most Takahashi thing that like the most Takahashi thing that Takahashi can do is have it be set in Takahashi can do is have it be set in Takahashi can do is have it be set in the far-flung future the far-flung future the far-flung future and have Xenoblade 4 tied into and have Xenoblade 4 tied into and have Xenoblade 4 tied into X1 yeah that would be insane I think X1 yeah that would be insane I think X1 yeah that would be insane I think it's just kind of insane that the whole it's just kind of insane that the whole it's just kind of insane that the whole joke about Xenoblade X being Xenoblade joke about Xenoblade X being Xenoblade joke about Xenoblade X being Xenoblade 10 is it seems like it's true yeah I 10 is it seems like it's true yeah I 10 is it seems like it's true yeah I honestly think it's true the thing is it honestly think it's true the thing is it honestly think it's true the thing is it would be so funny if that happens but I would be so funny if that happens but I would be so funny if that happens but I I don't think he's going to draw out

  9. I don't think he's going to draw out I don't think he's going to draw out these stories for that long to get there these stories for that long to get there these stories for that long to get there I think it I think it make sooner but I I think it I think it make sooner but I I think it I think it make sooner but I think in the timeline it'll have that think in the timeline it'll have that think in the timeline it'll have that much of a gap though for sure I I'm sure much of a gap though for sure I I'm sure much of a gap though for sure I I'm sure there's other stories he could find in there's other stories he could find in there's other stories he could find in between all this this time that happens between all this this time that happens between all this this time that happens in it's perfect perfect Works version in it's perfect perfect Works version in it's perfect perfect Works version three because we have the original three because we have the original three because we have the original perfect works then we have xenoblades perfect works then we have xenoblades perfect works then we have xenoblades perfect works and now we're going to perfect works and now we're going to perfect works and now we're going to have like this next one so yeah 100% have like this next one so yeah 100% have like this next one so yeah 100% yeah I yeah I yeah I guess I guess we can like Go full on guess I guess we can like Go full on guess I guess we can like Go full on into talking about Lone Hero and his to into talking about Lone Hero and his to into talking about Lone Hero and his to everything because that is going to be everything because that is going to be everything because that is going to be the meat of this talk like Lone Hero the meat of this talk like Lone Hero the meat of this talk like Lone Hero connections to Xenoblade 3 what is he connections to Xenoblade 3 what is he connections to Xenoblade 3 what is he because I remember we had a talk because I remember we had a talk because I remember we had a talk sometime after I beat X and you were sometime after I beat X and you were sometime after I beat X and you were talking to me about the ghosts and ELO talking to me about the ghosts and ELO talking to me about the ghosts and ELO and all that and we sort of landed on a and all that and we sort of landed on a and all that and we sort of landed on a conclusion that um Elma is sort of conclusion that um Elma is sort of conclusion that um Elma is sort of related to origin it is very interesting related to origin it is very interesting related to origin it is very interesting that we have zero like at the end of x that we have zero like at the end of x that we have zero like at the end of x one of the biggest criticisms I had with one of the biggest criticisms I had with one of the biggest criticisms I had with the end is we don't know anything about the end is we don't know anything about the end is we don't know anything about Elmo we just know oh she's an alien she Elmo we just know oh she's an alien she Elmo we just know oh she's an alien she came down to earth and gave us the came down to earth and gave us the came down to earth and gave us the technology that's all we know and that's technology that's all we know and that's technology that's all we know and that's already very sus and like I was talking already very sus and like I was talking already very sus and like I was talking to one of my other friends about this he to one of my other friends about this he to one of my other friends about this he was like oh they have the tandem scale was like oh they have the tandem scale was like oh they have the tandem scale the original areas and I was like if the original areas and I was like if the original areas and I was like if it's a tandem scale that they were it's a tandem scale that they were it's a tandem scale that they were using when did they use this tandem

  10. using when did they use this tandem using when did they use this tandem scale uh and they were like oh probably scale uh and they were like oh probably scale uh and they were like oh probably on Earth they were doing like training on Earth they were doing like training on Earth they were doing like training on Earth fighting off the aliens on on Earth fighting off the aliens on on Earth fighting off the aliens on Earth and then when they were like in Earth and then when they were like in Earth and then when they were like in space they were using it in space and I space they were using it in space and I space they were using it in space and I was like if Elma came to space or it was like if Elma came to space or it was like if Elma came to space or it came to Earth in that scale it's most came to Earth in that scale it's most came to Earth in that scale it's most likely the fact that she was not alone likely the fact that she was not alone likely the fact that she was not alone and the Lone Hero was with her cuz I was and the Lone Hero was with her cuz I was and the Lone Hero was with her cuz I was like was the Lone Hero always on Earth like was the Lone Hero always on Earth like was the Lone Hero always on Earth is he a human like Lao and Doug and all is he a human like Lao and Doug and all is he a human like Lao and Doug and all these people I I'm am under the these people I I'm am under the these people I I'm am under the assumption that he is also an alien same assumption that he is also an alien same assumption that he is also an alien same race as Elma they came down to earth race as Elma they came down to earth race as Elma they came down to earth with all this Tech but my question to with all this Tech but my question to with all this Tech but my question to you is why did they come and for what you is why did they come and for what you is why did they come and for what purpose did they come uh I think I think purpose did they come uh I think I think purpose did they come uh I think I think the only answer to that is basically to the only answer to that is basically to the only answer to that is basically to save Humanity the fail safe from being save Humanity the fail safe from being save Humanity the fail safe from being destroyed by both the ghosts and well I destroyed by both the ghosts and well I destroyed by both the ghosts and well I guess uh just the ghost they knew they guess uh just the ghost they knew they guess uh just the ghost they knew they knew about the ghost threat knew about the ghost threat knew about the ghost threat imperfect Works he showed me that imperfect Works he showed me that imperfect Works he showed me that actually they didn't know about the actually they didn't know about the actually they didn't know about the gangan threat uh until after okay yeah gangan threat uh until after okay yeah gangan threat uh until after okay yeah the gangling were kind of a surprise to the gangling were kind of a surprise to the gangling were kind of a surprise to them yeah but Elma does know about Samar them yeah but Elma does know about Samar them yeah but Elma does know about Samar Elma knows about she knows about the Elma knows about she knows about the Elma knows about she knows about the Samarian Federation and stuff um I Samarian Federation and stuff um I Samarian Federation and stuff um I think I'm I'm questioning now we had think I'm I'm questioning now we had think I'm I'm questioning now we had talked about maybe Elma being like kind talked about maybe Elma being like kind talked about maybe Elma being like kind of this Zed like figure where you know

  11. of this Zed like figure where you know of this Zed like figure where you know like Z is kind of born of the wills of like Z is kind of born of the wills of like Z is kind of born of the wills of the unconscious collective in origin and the unconscious collective in origin and the unconscious collective in origin and maybe Elma is kind of the same thing maybe Elma is kind of the same thing maybe Elma is kind of the same thing where she's born of the this unconscious where she's born of the this unconscious where she's born of the this unconscious collective's will to Common save collective's will to Common save collective's will to Common save Humanity but I'm questioning it Humanity but I'm questioning it Humanity but I'm questioning it now only because I think maybe I don't now only because I think maybe I don't now only because I think maybe I don't know if it makes sense that there would know if it makes sense that there would know if it makes sense that there would be two of those figures I I'm wondering be two of those figures I I'm wondering be two of those figures I I'm wondering maybe is Elma and the low hero are they maybe is Elma and the low hero are they maybe is Elma and the low hero are they both like humans that were set aside both like humans that were set aside both like humans that were set aside from way in the past it's really tough from way in the past it's really tough from way in the past it's really tough it's like I'm I'm wondering are the it's like I'm I'm wondering are the it's like I'm I'm wondering are the humans set aside in the past come and humans set aside in the past come and humans set aside in the past come and save save save Humanity I I I think they still somehow Humanity I I I think they still somehow Humanity I I I think they still somehow did come from space and their Origins did come from space and their Origins did come from space and their Origins are from space but as for like them are from space but as for like them are from space but as for like them being created from origin it is it it is being created from origin it is it it is being created from origin it is it it is a long shot but I think it I think it a long shot but I think it I think it a long shot but I think it I think it most definitely is sort of possible but most definitely is sort of possible but most definitely is sort of possible but here's my thing a lot of these here's my thing a lot of these here's my thing a lot of these like Divine roles within Xenoblade come like Divine roles within Xenoblade come like Divine roles within Xenoblade come in pairs like um x y and Zed came in in pairs like um x y and Zed came in in pairs like um x y and Zed came in that Trinity 3 you have the Trinity that Trinity 3 you have the Trinity that Trinity 3 you have the Trinity processor which is onto logos Numa as processor which is onto logos Numa as processor which is onto logos Numa as well but then you also have like the Ana well but then you also have like the Ana well but then you also have like the Ana and animus concept and you see that and animus concept and you see that and animus concept and you see that within Mobius as well you have like X within Mobius as well you have like X within Mobius as well you have like X and Y and then Zed is sort of like in and Y and then Zed is sort of like in and Y and then Zed is sort of like in the middle because he's playing sort of the middle because he's playing sort of the middle because he's playing sort of an onos role as well as of course onos

  12. an onos role as well as of course onos an onos role as well as of course onos logos Numa onos is in the middle it it logos Numa onos is in the middle it it logos Numa onos is in the middle it it was very interesting to me when I saw was very interesting to me when I saw was very interesting to me when I saw that concept art of the tandem scale and that concept art of the tandem scale and that concept art of the tandem scale and I saw that it was the two of them in the I saw that it was the two of them in the I saw that it was the two of them in the scale very very Ora boros Interlink like scale very very Ora boros Interlink like scale very very Ora boros Interlink like it it felt like they were trying to go it it felt like they were trying to go it it felt like they were trying to go for something there I I don't know if for something there I I don't know if for something there I I don't know if there's a third person or if there's a there's a third person or if there's a there's a third person or if there's a third party involved in all in all this third party involved in all in all this third party involved in all in all this but I I'm not entirely sure about that but I I'm not entirely sure about that but I I'm not entirely sure about that but I wouldn't be sure yeah I wouldn't but I wouldn't be sure yeah I wouldn't but I wouldn't be sure yeah I wouldn't think that I think it's probably just think that I think it's probably just think that I think it's probably just the two of them uh kind of the two the two of them uh kind of the two the two of them uh kind of the two halves of humanity I guess anim and halves of humanity I guess anim and halves of humanity I guess anim and animous yeah animous yeah animous yeah um wait what was he yeah what do you um wait what was he yeah what do you um wait what was he yeah what do you think his role in the story is now and think his role in the story is now and think his role in the story is now and like where where is he going to go from like where where is he going to go from like where where is he going to go from here because it looks like the main I here because it looks like the main I here because it looks like the main I wouldn't say the main threat of this wouldn't say the main threat of this wouldn't say the main threat of this epilogue is the ghost but the main epilogue is the ghost but the main epilogue is the ghost but the main threat we've seen right as of now seems threat we've seen right as of now seems threat we've seen right as of now seems to be the ghosts because Samar can be to be the ghosts because Samar can be to be the ghosts because Samar can be factored in later or Samar can be teased factored in later or Samar can be teased factored in later or Samar can be teased at the very end of this tie into an ex at the very end of this tie into an ex at the very end of this tie into an ex sequel but it it seems like he is his sequel but it it seems like he is his sequel but it it seems like he is his goal is to fight against the ghost but goal is to fight against the ghost but goal is to fight against the ghost but what what else do you think he will what what else do you think he will what what else do you think he will factor into with this yeah I think his factor into with this yeah I think his factor into with this yeah I think his information like the information we'll information like the information we'll information like the information we'll get from him is basically going to be get from him is basically going to be get from him is basically going to be the state of origin yeah how the power the state of origin yeah how the power the state of origin yeah how the power structure of origin is set up in mea structure of origin is set up in mea structure of origin is set up in mea yeah that we really don't know how it is yeah that we really don't know how it is yeah that we really don't know how it is right now like we know about the ghost

  13. right now like we know about the ghost right now like we know about the ghost but the ghost seem to be this kind of but the ghost seem to be this kind of but the ghost seem to be this kind of like Mindless enti they don't seem to like Mindless enti they don't seem to like Mindless enti they don't seem to really have a they aren't sentient it really have a they aren't sentient it really have a they aren't sentient it doesn't look like like I can't imagine doesn't look like like I can't imagine doesn't look like like I can't imagine any of those things any of those things any of those things talking no no and yeah they just kind of talking no no and yeah they just kind of talking no no and yeah they just kind of seem to be on autopilot going across the seem to be on autopilot going across the seem to be on autopilot going across the Galaxy you you might even call them a Galaxy you you might even call them a Galaxy you you might even call them a interplanetary Invasion system interplanetary Invasion system interplanetary Invasion system from from a certain game but um yeah from from a certain game but um yeah from from a certain game but um yeah wait wait actually now that you say that wait wait actually now that you say that wait wait actually now that you say that slight spoilers for Xeno gears actually slight spoilers for Xeno gears actually slight spoilers for Xeno gears actually but now that you said that the ghosts but now that you said that the ghosts but now that you said that the ghosts remind me of the um the the what what remind me of the um the the what what remind me of the um the the what what are they called the sarif Angels at the are they called the sarif Angels at the are they called the sarif Angels at the end they really remind me of the sah end they really remind me of the sah end they really remind me of the sah Angels made from the Nano Angels made from the Nano Angels made from the Nano machines yeah they even mentioned in the machines yeah they even mentioned in the machines yeah they even mentioned in the art book they they literally have Halos art book they they literally have Halos art book they they literally have Halos like the like the serif Angels wow I like the like the serif Angels wow I like the like the serif Angels wow I guess you could say the same about Zen guess you could say the same about Zen guess you could say the same about Zen blade blade blade 2's gargoyles right art artifices like 2's gargoyles right art artifices like 2's gargoyles right art artifices like yeah all of them gargoyles yeah all of them gargoyles yeah all of them gargoyles siren ion they all have Halos but I siren ion they all have Halos but I siren ion they all have Halos but I guess they're also meant to resemble the guess they're also meant to resemble the guess they're also meant to resemble the serif Angels they're all yes kind of the serif Angels they're all yes kind of the serif Angels they're all yes kind of the same place in the de system same place in the de system same place in the de system so yeah we can never Escape Xeno gears so yeah we can never Escape Xeno gears so yeah we can never Escape Xeno gears and I'm fine with that I'm totally fine and I'm fine with that I'm totally fine and I'm fine with that I'm totally fine with that with that with that yeah so something interesting about the yeah so something interesting about the yeah so something interesting about the Lone Hero is it looks like so it looks

  14. Lone Hero is it looks like so it looks Lone Hero is it looks like so it looks like he's in a MIM he's got white like he's in a MIM he's got white like he's in a MIM he's got white here where's his real body though yeah here where's his real body though yeah here where's his real body though yeah because it's not next to because it's not next to because it's not next to Elma we saw that at the end of the game Elma we saw that at the end of the game Elma we saw that at the end of the game un they're they're not going to change un they're they're not going to change un they're they're not going to change that much of the game to have him be that much of the game to have him be that much of the game to have him be there too hey I was always here no right there too hey I was always here no right there too hey I was always here no right that would be I think that would be too that would be I think that would be too that would be I think that would be too big of a change too big of a change too big of a change too so I guess the question is where did he so I guess the question is where did he so I guess the question is where did he go go go from the when uh the white whale was from the when uh the white whale was from the when uh the white whale was like entering Mira and he was like like entering Mira and he was like like entering Mira and he was like defending the white whale from that defending the white whale from that defending the white whale from that point what happened to point what happened to point what happened to him where he ended up to be apparently him where he ended up to be apparently him where he ended up to be apparently in some kind of mobious in some kind of mobious in some kind of mobious like console position that is going to be the big position that is going to be the big question question question like so um that that begs a question as like so um that that begs a question as like so um that that begs a question as well like I think we were messaging well like I think we were messaging well like I think we were messaging about this yesterday what is that new about this yesterday what is that new about this yesterday what is that new area that we're exploring that he has area that we're exploring that he has area that we're exploring that he has supposedly LED them to cuz ELO's like supposedly LED them to cuz ELO's like supposedly LED them to cuz ELO's like this scale has always been guiding Us in this scale has always been guiding Us in this scale has always been guiding Us in this direction or something like that this direction or something like that this direction or something like that like all those floating islands mhm on like all those floating islands mhm on like all those floating islands mhm on top of that yeah cuz you were saying top of that yeah cuz you were saying top of that yeah cuz you were saying like it might be the oblivia ring on top like it might be the oblivia ring on top like it might be the oblivia ring on top of that I feel like if we get a tease of of that I feel like if we get a tease of of that I feel like if we get a tease of Samar will we event go to the Rose Samar will we event go to the Rose Samar will we event go to the Rose Garden and see what's like inside of Garden and see what's like inside of Garden and see what's like inside of that that would be I actually I'm not

  15. that that would be I actually I'm not that that would be I actually I'm not I'm not sure what the Rose Garden is I I'm not sure what the Rose Garden is I I'm not sure what the Rose Garden is I haven't heard they might keep that for haven't heard they might keep that for haven't heard they might keep that for X2 what can you explain actually what X2 what can you explain actually what X2 what can you explain actually what the like what the information the like what the information the like what the information information is about the rose Gard I I I information is about the rose Gard I I I information is about the rose Gard I I I don't remember too much but it it just don't remember too much but it it just don't remember too much but it it just seems to be the um Mothership of the seems to be the um Mothership of the seems to be the um Mothership of the samarians if anyone else like remembers samarians if anyone else like remembers samarians if anyone else like remembers in the comments down below they can in the comments down below they can in the comments down below they can clarify but look like the alridge clarify but look like the alridge clarify but look like the alridge doesn't it yeah it it it looks like a doesn't it yeah it it it looks like a doesn't it yeah it it it looks like a it's like a giant freaking ship and like it's like a giant freaking ship and like it's like a giant freaking ship and like I feel like a lot of the mysteries of X I feel like a lot of the mysteries of X I feel like a lot of the mysteries of X of of of um um mea and all these stuff it's tying um um mea and all these stuff it's tying um um mea and all these stuff it's tying back to Samara and I feel like the end back to Samara and I feel like the end back to Samara and I feel like the end game villain the end game threat is game villain the end game threat is game villain the end game threat is Samara because like the vaita is also Samara because like the vaita is also Samara because like the vaita is also like a Samarian creation so that makes like a Samarian creation so that makes like a Samarian creation so that makes me also like think like we'll get to me also like think like we'll get to me also like think like we'll get to samor a little bit later but also makes samor a little bit later but also makes samor a little bit later but also makes me think like are Elma and the Lone Hero me think like are Elma and the Lone Hero me think like are Elma and the Lone Hero connected to Samar in any way I'm not connected to Samar in any way I'm not connected to Samar in any way I'm not entirely sure because Elma is more entirely sure because Elma is more entirely sure because Elma is more antagonistic towards Samar because she antagonistic towards Samar because she antagonistic towards Samar because she understands that the gangli and are understands that the gangli and are understands that the gangli and are relating to Samar in that way and then relating to Samar in that way and then relating to Samar in that way and then she is not cool with that it it's weird she is not cool with that it it's weird she is not cool with that it it's weird because samarians like they're they because samarians like they're they because samarians like they're they showed their for it's they're basically showed their for it's they're basically showed their for it's they're basically humans yeah I was just thinking maybe humans yeah I was just thinking maybe humans yeah I was just thinking maybe there's like a couple of factions of there's like a couple of factions of there's like a couple of factions of humans and the samarians were just one

  16. humans and the samarians were just one humans and the samarians were just one of them maybe Elma from a different of them maybe Elma from a different of them maybe Elma from a different faction I see I remember we were also faction I see I remember we were also faction I see I remember we were also talking about how talking about how talking about how um like at the end of future redeem the um like at the end of future redeem the um like at the end of future redeem the world is formed these are new humans world is formed these are new humans world is formed these are new humans built to like like just continue on the built to like like just continue on the built to like like just continue on the legacy of the past and all that and our legacy of the past and all that and our legacy of the past and all that and our prediction was and some other people prediction was and some other people prediction was and some other people like in my Discord server and other like in my Discord server and other like in my Discord server and other people have talked that our prediction people have talked that our prediction people have talked that our prediction is that these people eventually will be is that these people eventually will be is that these people eventually will be known as the samarians and then they known as the samarians and then they known as the samarians and then they they do all their stuff and that that they do all their stuff and that that they do all their stuff and that that that's what like Xenoblade 4 will tie that's what like Xenoblade 4 will tie that's what like Xenoblade 4 will tie into but into but into but yeah I guess uh maybe we should revisit yeah I guess uh maybe we should revisit yeah I guess uh maybe we should revisit um what was the light at the end of um what was the light at the end of um what was the light at the end of future redeemed that was going to uh future redeemed that was going to uh future redeemed that was going to uh going to the planet I I still think it's going to the planet I I still think it's going to the planet I I still think it's Kosmos but do you have any other idea of Kosmos but do you have any other idea of Kosmos but do you have any other idea of who or what it could be I'm just who or what it could be I'm just who or what it could be I'm just wondering if we can if it can be tied wondering if we can if it can be tied wondering if we can if it can be tied into X at all you know maybe it has into X at all you know maybe it has into X at all you know maybe it has something to do with the ghost maybe something to do with the ghost maybe something to do with the ghost maybe like it it could have something to do like it it could have something to do like it it could have something to do with that but that seems like maybe it with that but that seems like maybe it with that but that seems like maybe it would would would be the ghost might show up after they be the ghost might show up after they be the ghost might show up after they become Samar and kind of get their become Samar and kind of get their become Samar and kind of get their technology to a certain level where they technology to a certain level where they technology to a certain level where they can go to a different plane can go to a different plane can go to a different plane yeah but yeah maybe Cosmos does seem yeah but yeah maybe Cosmos does seem yeah but yeah maybe Cosmos does seem like the best or most reasonable answer

  17. like the best or most reasonable answer like the best or most reasonable answer at this time yeah I I think I think it at this time yeah I I think I think it at this time yeah I I think I think it is is is Cosmos and then the events of X will Cosmos and then the events of X will Cosmos and then the events of X will eventually happen way way later but let eventually happen way way later but let eventually happen way way later but let me see what else do I have from the me see what else do I have from the me see what else do I have from the notes yeah so do you want to talk about the Aries scale because that that about the Aries scale because that that one shot we saw of the Aries skill and one shot we saw of the Aries skill and one shot we saw of the Aries skill and it's very like a blink and you'll miss it's very like a blink and you'll miss it's very like a blink and you'll miss it like the first two times I saw the it like the first two times I saw the it like the first two times I saw the trailer I didn't notice it until someone trailer I didn't notice it until someone trailer I didn't notice it until someone like one of my mutuals on Blue Sky like like one of my mutuals on Blue Sky like like one of my mutuals on Blue Sky like pointed it out to me he was like hey um pointed it out to me he was like hey um pointed it out to me he was like hey um I don't know if you saw this but it's I don't know if you saw this but it's I don't know if you saw this but it's like very apparent that there's like very apparent that there's like very apparent that there's something up with that scale at the end something up with that scale at the end something up with that scale at the end I was like what really and then I looked I was like what really and then I looked I was like what really and then I looked at it again and it basically looks like at it again and it basically looks like at it again and it basically looks like an agne in uroboros and it looks way an agne in uroboros and it looks way an agne in uroboros and it looks way more like an AGN more like an AGN more like an AGN uroboros in this version than it did in uroboros in this version than it did in uroboros in this version than it did in the original the original the original cutscene so I might I might actually cutscene so I might I might actually cutscene so I might I might actually disagree with you there so I think I disagree with you there so I think I disagree with you there so I think I think the model is actually the same as think the model is actually the same as think the model is actually the same as it is in the original cutscene it's just it is in the original cutscene it's just it is in the original cutscene it's just that the original cut scene was like that the original cut scene was like that the original cut scene was like there was just like a few frames and it there was just like a few frames and it there was just like a few frames and it was at like a weird angle and every and was at like a weird angle and every and was at like a weird angle and every and it's also low quality it's like super it's also low quality it's like super it's also low quality it's like super compressed compressed compressed uh I think it is the I I could be wrong uh I think it is the I I could be wrong uh I think it is the I I could be wrong but I think it is the same model except but I think it is the same model except but I think it is the same model except for the cores on it the cores the cores

  18. for the cores on it the cores the cores for the cores on it the cores the cores are very prominent in this and it's it's are very prominent in this and it's it's are very prominent in this and it's it's so I was talking to my friend about this so I was talking to my friend about this so I was talking to my friend about this are they ororo cores or Mobius cores cuz are they ororo cores or Mobius cores cuz are they ororo cores or Mobius cores cuz it looks like a it looks like a it looks like a circle circle circle so I don't know that we can say that so I don't know that we can say that so I don't know that we can say that they're either I think we can really they're either I think we can really they're either I think we can really only say that they're just foures the only say that they're just foures the only say that they're just foures the Ora Boris cores in Z Blade 3 they don't Ora Boris cores in Z Blade 3 they don't Ora Boris cores in Z Blade 3 they don't have a ora Boris symbol like the Mobius have a ora Boris symbol like the Mobius have a ora Boris symbol like the Mobius ones do um they they have they just have ones do um they they have they just have ones do um they they have they just have like a sort of like a circle cuz I I saw like a sort of like a circle cuz I I saw like a sort of like a circle cuz I I saw on like just like a a circle basically on like just like a a circle basically on like just like a a circle basically it's I honestly it I think you could say it's I honestly it I think you could say it's I honestly it I think you could say it is kind of the same as this one uh it is kind of the same as this one uh it is kind of the same as this one uh like that we see on the Aries just in a like that we see on the Aries just in a like that we see on the Aries just in a bit of a different style uh kind of I bit of a different style uh kind of I bit of a different style uh kind of I guess maybe in a more of an X guess maybe in a more of an X guess maybe in a more of an X St um what really interests me is St um what really interests me is St um what really interests me is like what are these cores like where do like what are these cores like where do like what are these cores like where do they come from because what does it mean they come from because what does it mean they come from because what does it mean for that for that for that scale scale scale right right like how was it made where right right like how was it made where right right like how was it made where did it like it had to come from did it like it had to come from did it like it had to come from somewhere uh and another thing is this somewhere uh and another thing is this somewhere uh and another thing is this is the only tandem scale that we know of is the only tandem scale that we know of is the only tandem scale that we know of this is the only um dual scale that we this is the only um dual scale that we this is the only um dual scale that we know of in the the whole know of in the the whole know of in the the whole game yeah also the ghosts the ghost also game yeah also the ghosts the ghost also game yeah also the ghosts the ghost also have these course yes the ghost

  19. have these course yes the ghost have these course yes the ghost do because a lot of people have been do because a lot of people have been do because a lot of people have been saying that um these cores in Xenoblade saying that um these cores in Xenoblade saying that um these cores in Xenoblade 3 as well as X are made of 3 as well as X are made of 3 as well as X are made of antimatter so right that that also ties antimatter so right that that also ties antimatter so right that that also ties back to antimatter um what said um black back to antimatter um what said um black back to antimatter um what said um black fog um Alpha's Rifts which we see in uh fog um Alpha's Rifts which we see in uh fog um Alpha's Rifts which we see in uh future connected and future redeem all future connected and future redeem all future connected and future redeem all that so I think there might actually be that so I think there might actually be that so I think there might actually be something different here going on I uh something different here going on I uh something different here going on I uh so in three of course we had the um the so in three of course we had the um the so in three of course we had the um the two opposing worlds you know that were two opposing worlds you know that were two opposing worlds you know that were like the matter like the matter like the matter was opposing toed each was opposing toed each was opposing toed each other uh and this was the whole basis other uh and this was the whole basis other uh and this was the whole basis for like the black fog and how for like the black fog and how for like the black fog and how interlinks worked they basically got interlinks worked they basically got interlinks worked they basically got energy from this opposing matter um via energy from this opposing matter um via energy from this opposing matter um via the cores yeah and by using that by the cores yeah and by using that by the cores yeah and by using that by these cores just existing eventually these cores just existing eventually these cores just existing eventually they would end in Annihilation event they would end in Annihilation event they would end in Annihilation event yeah here the AR yeah here the AR yeah here the AR skell assumedly it never it doesn't stop skell assumedly it never it doesn't stop skell assumedly it never it doesn't stop existing after it's being done used like existing after it's being done used like existing after it's being done used like it's not going to ever end in an it's not going to ever end in an it's not going to ever end in an Annihilation event so I think these Annihilation event so I think these Annihilation event so I think these cores aren't getting their power from a cores aren't getting their power from a cores aren't getting their power from a or like from antimatter I think it's

  20. or like from antimatter I think it's or like from antimatter I think it's probably from a more stable reliable probably from a more stable reliable probably from a more stable reliable source of power I think there is some source of power I think there is some source of power I think there is some kind of kind of kind of Zohar equivalent that is another Zohar equivalent that is another Zohar equivalent that is another question I had in my notes like where question I had in my notes like where question I had in my notes like where the heck is the Zohar sash conduit the heck is the Zohar sash conduit the heck is the Zohar sash conduit because we're seeing these orboros cores because we're seeing these orboros cores because we're seeing these orboros cores we're seeing like this tandem scale we're seeing like this tandem scale we're seeing like this tandem scale stuff that that in itself ties into stuff that that in itself ties into stuff that that in itself ties into three and if origin factors into this three and if origin factors into this three and if origin factors into this game it's tying it into three as well game it's tying it into three as well game it's tying it into three as well which like we'll see once the game comes which like we'll see once the game comes which like we'll see once the game comes out we'll see how spot on we are with out we'll see how spot on we are with out we'll see how spot on we are with that but I if we see a Zohar if we see a that but I if we see a Zohar if we see a that but I if we see a Zohar if we see a conduit that's like a definite like this conduit that's like a definite like this conduit that's like a definite like this is a Zeno game in itself because I I is a Zeno game in itself because I I is a Zeno game in itself because I I think I'm not sure that it will actually think I'm not sure that it will actually think I'm not sure that it will actually be the conduit I think like I think it be the conduit I think like I think it be the conduit I think like I think it has to be has to be has to be something I I think it will be something something I I think it will be something something I I think it will be something else maybe I'm wrong honestly I I'm not else maybe I'm wrong honestly I I'm not else maybe I'm wrong honestly I I'm not sure so some sort of Monolithic um uh sure so some sort of Monolithic um uh sure so some sort of Monolithic um uh thing that can do crazy things right it thing that can do crazy things right it thing that can do crazy things right it it just has to be some massive energy it just has to be some massive energy it just has to be some massive energy source and we just really I I don't source and we just really I I don't source and we just really I I don't think we really have any idea what that think we really have any idea what that think we really have any idea what that could could be another thing is could could be another thing is could could be another thing is um the uh uh some one of my other um the uh uh some one of my other um the uh uh some one of my other friends was saying that where does the friends was saying that where does the friends was saying that where does the Zohar go at the end of Xeno Blade 2 or Zohar go at the end of Xeno Blade 2 or Zohar go at the end of Xeno Blade 2 or where does the conduit go and many where does the conduit go and many where does the conduit go and many people are thinking could just go people are thinking could just go people are thinking could just go straight into X's world and that

  21. straight into X's world and that straight into X's world and that could be the Catalyst could be the Catalyst could be the Catalyst for the powering up of x's origin it can for the powering up of x's origin it can for the powering up of x's origin it can be the Catalyst for Elma and the Lone be the Catalyst for Elma and the Lone be the Catalyst for Elma and the Lone Hero being sent down to earth and all Hero being sent down to earth and all Hero being sent down to earth and all these things these things these things happening that might make a lot of sense happening that might make a lot of sense happening that might make a lot of sense because because because so the conduit is a gateway to other so the conduit is a gateway to other so the conduit is a gateway to other worlds right yes at the end of two if it worlds right yes at the end of two if it worlds right yes at the end of two if it goes goes to another world another goes goes to another world another goes goes to another world another dimension okay it's X's dimension okay it's X's dimension okay it's X's Dimension uh why did the samarians Dimension uh why did the samarians Dimension uh why did the samarians travel to that Dimension you know could travel to that Dimension you know could travel to that Dimension you know could it be that they're tracking down Zohar it be that they're tracking down Zohar it be that they're tracking down Zohar is that why they they appeared in this is that why they they appeared in this is that why they they appeared in this Dimension I guess it doesn't maybe it Dimension I guess it doesn't maybe it Dimension I guess it doesn't maybe it doesn't make too much sense if they say doesn't make too much sense if they say doesn't make too much sense if they say that the Samaran out there at like the that the Samaran out there at like the that the Samaran out there at like the dawn of that dawn of that dawn of that universe but yeah I don't know I don't universe but yeah I don't know I don't universe but yeah I don't know I don't see much other way to explain how these see much other way to explain how these see much other way to explain how these foures are like how there can be so many foures are like how there can be so many foures are like how there can be so many of them and how they're all existing of them and how they're all existing of them and how they're all existing like without blowing themselves up like without blowing themselves up like without blowing themselves up basically it must be something like basically it must be something like basically it must be something like Zohar yeah and these connections have Zohar yeah and these connections have Zohar yeah and these connections have always kind of been like in the back of always kind of been like in the back of always kind of been like in the back of so many people's heads after future so many people's heads after future so many people's heads after future edine because of the original Aries uh edine because of the original Aries uh edine because of the original Aries uh concept art and what we saw at the end concept art and what we saw at the end concept art and what we saw at the end of future redeemed how it looked exactly of future redeemed how it looked exactly of future redeemed how it looked exactly like that and so many things like that like that and so many things like that like that and so many things like that but then on top of all of this tying the but then on top of all of this tying the but then on top of all of this tying the things back to origin I remember like things back to origin I remember like things back to origin I remember like you kept saying like oh you'll

  22. you kept saying like oh you'll you kept saying like oh you'll understand like where um uh where X can understand like where um uh where X can understand like where um uh where X can fit in once you beat the game and it was fit in once you beat the game and it was fit in once you beat the game and it was that um lifeold cut scene at the end of that um lifeold cut scene at the end of that um lifeold cut scene at the end of the game where Elmo was like showing the game where Elmo was like showing the game where Elmo was like showing like the cat being like constructed with like the cat being like constructed with like the cat being like constructed with like the DNA and that and I was like like the DNA and that and I was like like the DNA and that and I was like this all is very origin like so that this all is very origin like so that this all is very origin like so that technology in technology in technology in itself whoever Elma is and whoever that itself whoever Elma is and whoever that itself whoever Elma is and whoever that race of aliens is they have very if if race of aliens is they have very if if race of aliens is they have very if if not exactly like origin it's very not exactly like origin it's very not exactly like origin it's very similar technology to similar technology to similar technology to origin so I think it is actually just origin so I think it is actually just origin so I think it is actually just origin technology because that Aries origin technology because that Aries origin technology because that Aries came from assumably Ella brought the came from assumably Ella brought the came from assumably Ella brought the Aries with her with yes the hero Aries with her with yes the hero Aries with her with yes the hero that is just an Ora boros with origin that is just an Ora boros with origin that is just an Ora boros with origin that doesn't need to rely on like that doesn't need to rely on like that doesn't need to rely on like unreliable sources of energy like unreliable sources of energy like unreliable sources of energy like antimatter I think the lifeold is antimatter I think the lifeold is antimatter I think the lifeold is basically the best they could do in the basically the best they could do in the basically the best they could do in the time they were given yeah uh so it's time they were given yeah uh so it's time they were given yeah uh so it's like a a lower Tech version of origin like a a lower Tech version of origin like a a lower Tech version of origin like you've got the you have the same uh like you've got the you have the same uh like you've got the you have the same uh like bio synthesizers or whatever right like bio synthesizers or whatever right like bio synthesizers or whatever right they made the they made the they made the cat uh they have a pool of DNA okay what cat uh they have a pool of DNA okay what cat uh they have a pool of DNA okay what is the equivalent in three the is the equivalent in three the is the equivalent in three the equivalent is the those core crystals equivalent is the those core crystals equivalent is the those core crystals you see right Z theater the core you see right Z theater the core you see right Z theater the core crystals are essentially just DNA yeah

  23. crystals are essentially just DNA yeah crystals are essentially just DNA yeah um it's it's memories of the past um it's it's memories of the past um it's it's memories of the past memories of humans the of Souls and memories of humans the of Souls and memories of humans the of Souls and humans that they Ed to create life with humans that they Ed to create life with humans that they Ed to create life with an origin and two they they literally an origin and two they they literally an origin and two they they literally show that like uh core Crystal they're show that like uh core Crystal they're show that like uh core Crystal they're they have DNA in them like they they they have DNA in them like they they they have DNA in them like they they literally have DNA so it's really a lot literally have DNA so it's really a lot literally have DNA so it's really a lot closer closer closer uh than we think um yeah and then that uh than we think um yeah and then that uh than we think um yeah and then that main frame in the center of the life main frame in the center of the life main frame in the center of the life hold uh I'm not sure if it really has hold uh I'm not sure if it really has hold uh I'm not sure if it really has that much to do with the the cloud Cube that much to do with the the cloud Cube that much to do with the the cloud Cube other than just looking similar but uh other than just looking similar but uh other than just looking similar but uh of course there needs to be some kind of of course there needs to be some kind of of course there needs to be some kind of computer at the base of the whole system computer at the base of the whole system computer at the base of the whole system so so so origin had onos from the Trinity origin had onos from the Trinity origin had onos from the Trinity processor lifeold has whatever this made processor lifeold has whatever this made processor lifeold has whatever this made frame is frame is frame is so yeah do you so yeah do you so yeah do you think um here's something that just think um here's something that just think um here's something that just popped into my head do you think the um popped into my head do you think the um popped into my head do you think the um purpose and the motives of the Lone Hero purpose and the motives of the Lone Hero purpose and the motives of the Lone Hero are going to tie back to the Cliffhanger are going to tie back to the Cliffhanger are going to tie back to the Cliffhanger of why everyone's still of why everyone's still of why everyone's still alive because we'll we'll we'll alive because we'll we'll we'll alive because we'll we'll we'll obviously get that question answered obviously get that question answered obviously get that question answered this Definitive Edition but I think I this Definitive Edition but I think I this Definitive Edition but I think I think I already know why everyone's think I already know why everyone's think I already know why everyone's so I think I mean I I think you you so I think I mean I I think you you so I think I mean I I think you you probably know this too it's because probably know this too it's because probably know this too it's because everyone is already they're they're everyone is already they're they're everyone is already they're they're within basically a version of ionas within basically a version of ionas within basically a version of ionas they're yes yeah they they they are Mira

  24. they're yes yeah they they they are Mira they're yes yeah they they they are Mira is very analogous to ionos in that way is very analogous to ionos in that way is very analogous to ionos in that way right so I think La wakes up as a MIM I right so I think La wakes up as a MIM I right so I think La wakes up as a MIM I don't think he wakes up in his real body don't think he wakes up in his real body don't think he wakes up in his real body and I think that's because like version and I think that's because like version and I think that's because like version of him that's stored in origin is his M of him that's stored in origin is his M of him that's stored in origin is his M version of himself uh and at the end of version of himself uh and at the end of version of himself uh and at the end of the game if you remember La says the game if you remember La says the game if you remember La says something like I realized that these something like I realized that these something like I realized that these Mims they're not just like I can't Mims they're not just like I can't Mims they're not just like I can't remember the exact wording but basically remember the exact wording but basically remember the exact wording but basically he said he realizes that you know even he said he realizes that you know even he said he realizes that you know even though we're not in our real bodies though we're not in our real bodies though we're not in our real bodies we're still actually we're still humans we're still actually we're still humans we're still actually we're still humans and like that's why origin is able to and like that's why origin is able to and like that's why origin is able to basically sustain these lives even basically sustain these lives even basically sustain these lives even though they're not in their original though they're not in their original though they're not in their original human bodies human bodies human bodies so I think the Lone Hero he's definitely so I think the Lone Hero he's definitely so I think the Lone Hero he's definitely going to have something to do with that going to have something to do with that going to have something to do with that because apparently his real body is because apparently his real body is because apparently his real body is also apparently missing so yeah so in also apparently missing so yeah so in also apparently missing so yeah so in general we'll figure out general we'll figure out general we'll figure out what is up with this planet there is what is up with this planet there is what is up with this planet there is notoriously there is something about notoriously there is something about notoriously there is something about this planet and we were going to figure this planet and we were going to figure this planet and we were going to figure it out and it out and it out and crazy answer we might get is that it crazy answer we might get is that it crazy answer we might get is that it might be more similar to ionio than we might be more similar to ionio than we might be more similar to ionio than we thought yeah I think I think for sure it thought yeah I think I think for sure it thought yeah I think I think for sure it works uh like ionos where when people works uh like ionos where when people works uh like ionos where when people die they can be selectively revived die they can be selectively revived die they can be selectively revived based on the will of uh whoever's in

  25. based on the will of uh whoever's in based on the will of uh whoever's in control which apparently it seems to be control which apparently it seems to be control which apparently it seems to be the Lone Hero interesting yeah and like the Lone Hero interesting yeah and like the Lone Hero interesting yeah and like we were also discussing that he could be we were also discussing that he could be we were also discussing that he could be like a in console so if if he's pulling like a in console so if if he's pulling like a in console so if if he's pulling the strings on this that that's very the strings on this that that's very the strings on this that that's very interesting do you think he's going to interesting do you think he's going to interesting do you think he's going to be like an antagonistic figure be like an antagonistic figure be like an antagonistic figure though no he must he must be uh I I though no he must he must be uh I I though no he must he must be uh I I think he'll be helping the party for think he'll be helping the party for think he'll be helping the party for sure um I mean Elmo says in the trailer sure um I mean Elmo says in the trailer sure um I mean Elmo says in the trailer this scale has been leading us to where this scale has been leading us to where this scale has been leading us to where we where we needed to be I think says I we where we needed to be I think says I we where we needed to be I think says I think that's going to be the role that think that's going to be the role that think that's going to be the role that he plays and also there was a clip in he plays and also there was a clip in he plays and also there was a clip in the trailer of someone uh like taking the trailer of someone uh like taking the trailer of someone uh like taking their helmet off and walking towards the their helmet off and walking towards the their helmet off and walking towards the party after they get to the new area I party after they get to the new area I party after they get to the new area I think that's also that's probably the think that's also that's probably the think that's also that's probably the Lone Hero I think origin we've seen Lone Hero I think origin we've seen Lone Hero I think origin we've seen origin in Zena blade X already it's the origin in Zena blade X already it's the origin in Zena blade X already it's the ghost ship that we see at the start of ghost ship that we see at the start of ghost ship that we see at the start of the game the game the game so and something interesting about this so and something interesting about this so and something interesting about this is that if you look closely you have to is that if you look closely you have to is that if you look closely you have to like you have to go through the cut like you have to go through the cut like you have to go through the cut scene and and look uh it's actually only scene and and look uh it's actually only scene and and look uh it's actually only half of origin yes you were telling me half of origin yes you were telling me half of origin yes you were telling me from the side view it looks a little from the side view it looks a little from the side view it looks a little weird right there it's not a full sphere weird right there it's not a full sphere weird right there it's not a full sphere so I guess I'm maybe a theory about so I guess I'm maybe a theory about so I guess I'm maybe a theory about where Elma could have come where Elma could have come where Elma could have come from maybe potentially there's another from maybe potentially there's another from maybe potentially there's another half of origin out there uh that maybe

  26. half of origin out there uh that maybe half of origin out there uh that maybe isn't taken over by the ghost that's isn't taken over by the ghost that's isn't taken over by the ghost that's genius so the ghosts are one half and genius so the ghosts are one half and genius so the ghosts are one half and elma's race is another half elma's race is another half elma's race is another half possibly that that could be one idea as possibly that that could be one idea as possibly that that could be one idea as to that is our anal where Elma came to that is our anal where Elma came to that is our anal where Elma came from yeah I think I would view the ghost from yeah I think I would view the ghost from yeah I think I would view the ghost half as being like corupted somehow like half as being like corupted somehow like half as being like corupted somehow like I don't I don't think the I don't I don't think the I don't I don't think the ghosts I'm not sure that they're ghosts I'm not sure that they're ghosts I'm not sure that they're entirely the same as like Mobius entirely the same as like Mobius entirely the same as like Mobius um because it would require them to have um because it would require them to have um because it would require them to have kind of this sentient leader that's like kind of this sentient leader that's like kind of this sentient leader that's like yes because those mobious like Monsters yes because those mobious like Monsters yes because those mobious like Monsters We see in origin at the end of Xeno We see in origin at the end of Xeno We see in origin at the end of Xeno Blade 3 those look like the ghosts but Blade 3 those look like the ghosts but Blade 3 those look like the ghosts but they aren't they don't act the same they they aren't they don't act the same they they aren't they don't act the same they they don't fulfill the same purpose it they don't fulfill the same purpose it they don't fulfill the same purpose it seems no seems no seems no they're they they are similar I guess they're they they are similar I guess they're they they are similar I guess just in their just in their just in their appearance um I guess something notable appearance um I guess something notable appearance um I guess something notable is that they're lacking those cores that is that they're lacking those cores that is that they're lacking those cores that the goats have uh most most of the most the goats have uh most most of the most the goats have uh most most of the most of the ghosts have Interlink board yeah of the ghosts have Interlink board yeah of the ghosts have Interlink board yeah um but I guess since such a um but I guess since such a um but I guess since such a scar uh they're a scar resource in three scar uh they're a scar resource in three scar uh they're a scar resource in three as opposed to X where apparently there's as opposed to X where apparently there's as opposed to X where apparently there's so much energy that they can just have so much energy that they can just have so much energy that they can just have these all over the place yeah these all over the place yeah these all over the place yeah um um um yeah so I guess that's one idea uh that yeah so I guess that's one idea uh that yeah so I guess that's one idea uh that is interesting I I like

  27. is interesting I I like is interesting I I like that that that yeah what else we got here do you have yeah what else we got here do you have yeah what else we got here do you have anything else in your notes anything else in your notes anything else in your notes uh I guess I wanted to say potentially uh I guess I wanted to say potentially uh I guess I wanted to say potentially more about elma's yeah no I guess I kind more about elma's yeah no I guess I kind more about elma's yeah no I guess I kind already said that I already said that I already said that I was going to talk about her potentially was going to talk about her potentially was going to talk about her potentially being a being a being a blade um like a um like a Xeno Blade Two blade um like a um like a Xeno Blade Two blade um like a um like a Xeno Blade Two blade right right like a Xeno Blade Two blade right right like a Xeno Blade Two blade right right like a Xeno Blade Two blade um she has this Crystal on her blade um she has this Crystal on her blade um she has this Crystal on her forehead um it doesn't look like your forehead um it doesn't look like your forehead um it doesn't look like your typical core Crystal um um but I think typical core Crystal um um but I think typical core Crystal um um but I think it's reasonable to say that over time as it's reasonable to say that over time as it's reasonable to say that over time as that like over however many years pass that like over however many years pass that like over however many years pass it's possible that it's possible that it's possible that variation happens and the core crystals variation happens and the core crystals variation happens and the core crystals end up looking different yeah end up looking different yeah end up looking different yeah uh that actually I don't know jyn is the uh that actually I don't know jyn is the uh that actually I don't know jyn is the only blade SL flesh eater who I know only blade SL flesh eater who I know only blade SL flesh eater who I know whose core is on his whose core is on his whose core is on his forehead right yes cuz Nia is a flesh eater but hers is yes cuz Nia is a flesh eater but hers is on her on her on her chest right and then in Xenoblade 3 you chest right and then in Xenoblade 3 you chest right and then in Xenoblade 3 you have like cores like anywhere on their have like cores like anywhere on their have like cores like anywhere on their body but that's mostly denoting that body but that's mostly denoting that body but that's mostly denoting that they are blade eaters instead of Flesh they are blade eaters instead of Flesh they are blade eaters instead of Flesh eaters I think think uh yeah usually if they're a blade eater

  28. uh yeah usually if they're a blade eater uh yeah usually if they're a blade eater um it's on I think it's usually on their um it's on I think it's usually on their um it's on I think it's usually on their test like Zeke and um Mino test like Zeke and um Mino test like Zeke and um Mino yeah somewhere a flesh eater isn't he oh yeah somewhere a flesh eater isn't he oh yeah somewhere a flesh eater isn't he oh sorry yeah is a flesh Eater Not a blade sorry yeah is a flesh Eater Not a blade sorry yeah is a flesh Eater Not a blade eat Rex is sort of like a blade eater eat Rex is sort of like a blade eater eat Rex is sort of like a blade eater he's not like yeah Rex is like a unique he's not like yeah Rex is like a unique he's not like yeah Rex is like a unique blade eater because he's like he's got blade eater because he's like he's got blade eater because he's like he's got the contact stuff going on there you the contact stuff going on there you the contact stuff going on there you know who is a blade eater but not know who is a blade eater but not know who is a blade eater but not confirmed to be a blade eater but he has confirmed to be a blade eater but he has confirmed to be a blade eater but he has his core on his chest is his core on his chest is his core on his chest is tyion yeah yeah swi design we see his tyion yeah yeah swi design we see his tyion yeah yeah swi design we see his core on his chest confirms he's a blade core on his chest confirms he's a blade core on his chest confirms he's a blade eater right I I wonder could it just be eater right I I wonder could it just be eater right I I wonder could it just be he's like a child of a human and a blade he's like a child of a human and a blade he's like a child of a human and a blade possibly I was thinking that like humans possibly I was thinking that like humans possibly I was thinking that like humans and blades are probably able to and blades are probably able to and blades are probably able to reproduce after reproduce after reproduce after like's Claus's gift um so it that could like's Claus's gift um so it that could like's Claus's gift um so it that could also be it because I think I guess I also be it because I think I guess I also be it because I think I guess I associate blade eaters with they have associate blade eaters with they have associate blade eaters with they have some kind of damage maybe that's just C some kind of damage maybe that's just C some kind of damage maybe that's just C uh but they have like a he has like a uh but they have like a he has like a uh but they have like a he has like a scar around his core yeah oh you know scar around his core yeah oh you know scar around his core yeah oh you know who's another blade eater who has his who's another blade eater who has his who's another blade eater who has his core on his forehead is core on his forehead is core on his forehead is Aus that's true that's true yeah Aus that's true that's true yeah Aus that's true that's true yeah H but H but H but yeah and we know uh elma's partner was

  29. yeah and we know uh elma's partner was yeah and we know uh elma's partner was supposed to have a blue cor on his chest supposed to have a blue cor on his chest supposed to have a blue cor on his chest as the Black Knight oh as the Black Knight oh as the Black Knight oh yes but that is also before we kind of yes but that is also before we kind of yes but that is also before we kind of made the connection that they're the two made the connection that they're the two made the connection that they're the two like they're the same person because in like they're the same person because in like they're the same person because in the art Bor it's not confirmed that the art Bor it's not confirmed that the art Bor it's not confirmed that they're the same person which is also they're the same person which is also they're the same person which is also very crazy that yeah you have the Lone very crazy that yeah you have the Lone very crazy that yeah you have the Lone Hero and you have the Aries skell in the Hero and you have the Aries skell in the Hero and you have the Aries skell in the art book which is kind of like they're art book which is kind of like they're art book which is kind of like they're the same and then you have the Black the same and then you have the Black the same and then you have the Black Knight Knight Knight in the art book and then you have the in the art book and then you have the in the art book and then you have the Black Knight skell KN SK and the Black Black Knight skell KN SK and the Black Black Knight skell KN SK and the Black Knight skell in Definitive Edition is Knight skell in Definitive Edition is Knight skell in Definitive Edition is now like totally not associated with now like totally not associated with now like totally not associated with this Black Knight who we don't even know this Black Knight who we don't even know this Black Knight who we don't even know who will be referred to as the Black who will be referred to as the Black who will be referred to as the Black Knight right it's weird it is really the Knight right it's weird it is really the Knight right it's weird it is really the way they're repurposing this stuff is way they're repurposing this stuff is way they're repurposing this stuff is very different way we didn't very different way we didn't very different way we didn't expect yeah think I think it makes sense expect yeah think I think it makes sense expect yeah think I think it makes sense though like at the end of the day like though like at the end of the day like though like at the end of the day like that black knight scale um if the Lone that black knight scale um if the Lone that black knight scale um if the Lone Hero was meant to be like part of the Hero was meant to be like part of the Hero was meant to be like part of the game all along like he was supposed to game all along like he was supposed to game all along like he was supposed to be like you know part of the main story be like you know part of the main story be like you know part of the main story going up everywhere it wouldn't have going up everywhere it wouldn't have going up everywhere it wouldn't have made yeah it wouldn't have made sense made yeah it wouldn't have made sense made yeah it wouldn't have made sense for him to have the arys all the time he for him to have the arys all the time he for him to have the arys all the time he would have had to have his own nonar go would have had to have his own nonar go would have had to have his own nonar go so that makes so that makes so that makes sense yeah

  30. sense yeah sense yeah but um so I guess what else you were but um so I guess what else you were but um so I guess what else you were talking about Elma and her being a blade talking about Elma and her being a blade talking about Elma and her being a blade do you have any else to say about that do you have any else to say about that do you have any else to say about that or or or um I guess it would explain that she can um I guess it would explain that she can um I guess it would explain that she can live a very long period of time they live a very long period of time they live a very long period of time they would explain that you know if she is would explain that you know if she is would explain that you know if she is kind of like one of the last kind of like one of the last kind of like one of the last two people from like a bygone era uh two people from like a bygone era uh two people from like a bygone era uh then she can kind of stand guard for the then she can kind of stand guard for the then she can kind of stand guard for the fail saafe Humanity on Earth um for some fail saafe Humanity on Earth um for some fail saafe Humanity on Earth um for some unspecified long period of time but do unspecified long period of time but do unspecified long period of time but do you think she's aware of you think she's aware of you think she's aware of this that that's a really tough question this that that's a really tough question this that that's a really tough question yeah because I think she has to be like yeah because I think she has to be like yeah because I think she has to be like I think no matter what she can't be I think no matter what she can't be I think no matter what she can't be unaware like it I can't think of a unaware like it I can't think of a unaware like it I can't think of a reason that she would be unaware like of her own purpose like that makes like of her own purpose like that makes sense what kind of makes me a little sense what kind of makes me a little sense what kind of makes me a little curious curious curious is they they her and the Lone Hero is they they her and the Lone Hero is they they her and the Lone Hero supposedly based on our theory that supposedly based on our theory that supposedly based on our theory that we're concocting brought down this scale we're concocting brought down this scale we're concocting brought down this scale they brought down all this technology they brought down all this technology they brought down all this technology they did all this stuff for they did all this stuff for they did all this stuff for Humanity but Humanity but Humanity but yet Elma still seems a oblivious to what

  31. yet Elma still seems a oblivious to what yet Elma still seems a oblivious to what the vaita is she still the vaita is she still the vaita is she still seems oblivious to some sort of things seems oblivious to some sort of things seems oblivious to some sort of things like that she never mentions origin in like that she never mentions origin in like that she never mentions origin in that way she never like when she sees that way she never like when she sees that way she never like when she sees the tainted she is still is somewhat the tainted she is still is somewhat the tainted she is still is somewhat ignorant of what they are and what they ignorant of what they are and what they ignorant of what they are and what they could be so in that way I'm could be so in that way I'm could be so in that way I'm like does she know that she's created like does she know that she's created like does she know that she's created for this reason or does the does uh the for this reason or does the does uh the for this reason or does the does uh the Lone Hero come to the understanding of Lone Hero come to the understanding of Lone Hero come to the understanding of this fact and the major Revelation is this fact and the major Revelation is this fact and the major Revelation is he's like hey this is our purpose this he's like hey this is our purpose this he's like hey this is our purpose this is what we're meant to do cuz even he is what we're meant to do cuz even he is what we're meant to do cuz even he has a line of dialogue where he says has a line of dialogue where he says has a line of dialogue where he says something like Humanity needs me people something like Humanity needs me people something like Humanity needs me people need me or something like that yeah he need me or something like that yeah he need me or something like that yeah he does say that does say that does say that huh yeah maybe maybe that could be it huh yeah maybe maybe that could be it huh yeah maybe maybe that could be it somehow Elma is unaware of it just it's somehow Elma is unaware of it just it's somehow Elma is unaware of it just it's it's racking my trying to Rack my brain it's racking my trying to Rack my brain it's racking my trying to Rack my brain to how Elma could not be aware to how Elma could not be aware to how Elma could not be aware yeah it's just that the events of the yeah it's just that the events of the yeah it's just that the events of the story are a little like weird when you story are a little like weird when you story are a little like weird when you think of like oh Elma is this Divine think of like oh Elma is this Divine think of like oh Elma is this Divine entity sent from created by Origins uh entity sent from created by Origins uh entity sent from created by Origins uh created by the uh Collective unconscious created by the uh Collective unconscious created by the uh Collective unconscious brought down to earth to save Earth but brought down to earth to save Earth but brought down to earth to save Earth but like does she know who she is cuz like like does she know who she is cuz like like does she know who she is cuz like you could chalk that up to being similar you could chalk that up to being similar you could chalk that up to being similar to like pyro and Mithra cuz they they to like pyro and Mithra cuz they they to like pyro and Mithra cuz they they know in the back of their head that know in the back of their head that know in the back of their head that their father is clous but they don't their father is clous but they don't their father is clous but they don't know their purpose as an egis until CL

  32. know their purpose as an egis until CL know their purpose as an egis until CL is like this is what you were meant to is like this is what you were meant to is like this is what you were meant to do this is why I created you this is why do this is why I created you this is why do this is why I created you this is why you had to go through all this that's you had to go through all this that's you had to go through all this that's true it could be kind of described as true it could be kind of described as true it could be kind of described as the difference between like the Persona the difference between like the Persona the difference between like the Persona and then like the core itself yeah so and then like the core itself yeah so and then like the core itself yeah so like you know like the numac cor is like you know like the numac cor is like you know like the numac cor is intelligent by itself but pyro and intelligent by itself but pyro and intelligent by itself but pyro and Mithra don't kind of possess the same Mithra don't kind of possess the same Mithra don't kind of possess the same omniscient that the that the core does omniscient that the that the core does omniscient that the that the core does yeah you gu could be similar in that way yeah you gu could be similar in that way yeah you gu could be similar in that way yeah you see that in all the Xeno games yeah you see that in all the Xeno games yeah you see that in all the Xeno games like uh Zeno gears contact an antitype like uh Zeno gears contact an antitype like uh Zeno gears contact an antitype have this major Destiny but they don't have this major Destiny but they don't have this major Destiny but they don't realize it until they experience certain realize it until they experience certain realize it until they experience certain things and if if Elma is our like things and if if Elma is our like things and if if Elma is our like resident Xenoblade in this game resident Xenoblade in this game resident Xenoblade in this game then there's probably something relating then there's probably something relating then there's probably something relating to that but yeah do you want to talk to that but yeah do you want to talk to that but yeah do you want to talk about L yes yeah I I actually had that about L yes yeah I I actually had that about L yes yeah I I actually had that in my notes this is all you cuz you have in my notes this is all you cuz you have in my notes this is all you cuz you have a lot of L stuff that you want to a lot of L stuff that you want to a lot of L stuff that you want to yeah I also I yeah I also I yeah I also I also I think L is uh I think he's also I think L is uh I think he's also I think L is uh I think he's undoubtedly undoubtedly a manifestation undoubtedly undoubtedly a manifestation undoubtedly undoubtedly a manifestation of the collective unconfident I I I of the collective unconfident I I I of the collective unconfident I I I think he's kind of like a weird beta think he's kind of like a weird beta think he's kind of like a weird beta version of uh of Zed uh beta in the version of uh of Zed uh beta in the version of uh of Zed uh beta in the sense that like he he was made before sense that like he he was made before sense that like he he was made before Zed uh you know meta aspect Zed uh you know meta aspect Zed uh you know meta aspect but

  33. but but so aesthetically he shares a lot of so aesthetically he shares a lot of so aesthetically he shares a lot of things with Z so he's got this kind of things with Z so he's got this kind of things with Z so he's got this kind of like like like theatrical uh way about him doesn't he theatrical uh way about him doesn't he theatrical uh way about him doesn't he and he's got horns on his head he's Zed and he's got horns on his head he's Zed and he's got horns on his head he's Zed also has horns and he uh is a native also has horns and he uh is a native also has horns and he uh is a native mirin um he's native to and only one of mirin um he's native to and only one of mirin um he's native to and only one of his kind he's native to mea which is a his kind he's native to mea which is a his kind he's native to mea which is a planet very similar and analogous to ionos right and the only ionos right and the only other native to ionio cuz nothing is other native to ionio cuz nothing is other native to ionio cuz nothing is native to ionos but maybe Mobius native to ionos but maybe Mobius native to ionos but maybe Mobius itself right right yeah the only other itself right right yeah the only other itself right right yeah the only other Miran natives are noon and uh those Miran natives are noon and uh those Miran natives are noon and uh those ancient races that fought each other ancient races that fought each other ancient races that fought each other uh I guess do you know about that there uh I guess do you know about that there uh I guess do you know about that there was like a like the oblivia Rings so me was like a like the oblivia Rings so me was like a like the oblivia Rings so me and me and perfect Works had a and me and perfect Works had a and me and perfect Works had a conversation about this and I had conversation about this and I had conversation about this and I had mentioned I had marked this down a lot mentioned I had marked this down a lot mentioned I had marked this down a lot in my uh notes while I was going through in my uh notes while I was going through in my uh notes while I was going through the game because there's this one noon the game because there's this one noon the game because there's this one noon in oblivia that has dialogue about what in oblivia that has dialogue about what in oblivia that has dialogue about what the oblivia Rings are actually for and the oblivia Rings are actually for and the oblivia Rings are actually for and he says that they were basically used in he says that they were basically used in he says that they were basically used in a war against two native Miran people a war against two native Miran people a war against two native Miran people long long ago okay

  34. long long ago okay long long ago okay and I don't know it sounds a bit like and I don't know it sounds a bit like and I don't know it sounds a bit like ionio to me like a little bit it might ionio to me like a little bit it might ionio to me like a little bit it might not actually be ionos like Kev and Agnes not actually be ionos like Kev and Agnes not actually be ionos like Kev and Agnes remains of Kev Castle or remains of Kev Castle or remains of Kev Castle or something right it might be some future something right it might be some future something right it might be some future conflict that happens but conflict that happens but conflict that happens but um anyways native Miran there's not many um anyways native Miran there's not many um anyways native Miran there's not many of them but it really right but L is one of them but it really right but L is one of them but it really right but L is one and he's the only one of his kind he and he's the only one of his kind he and he's the only one of his kind he refers by by the way he refers to refers by by the way he refers to refers by by the way he refers to himself thoroughly as we and himself thoroughly as we and himself thoroughly as we and us and his full name also his he's got a us and his full name also his he's got a us and his full name also his he's got a onlet name okay what does that remind onlet name okay what does that remind onlet name okay what does that remind you of it definitely does it reminds me you of it definitely does it reminds me you of it definitely does it reminds me of Mobius obviously all them have oneel of Mobius obviously all them have oneel of Mobius obviously all them have oneel name and name and name and also uh his full name is El seru which also uh his full name is El seru which also uh his full name is El seru which is like an anagram for Lucifer yeah is like an anagram for Lucifer yeah is like an anagram for Lucifer yeah so and there's something in the art book so and there's something in the art book so and there's something in the art book uh maybe I could send you a picture of uh maybe I could send you a picture of uh maybe I could send you a picture of this but in the confidential section this but in the confidential section this but in the confidential section there's there's there's some I guess I'll put it up there's like some I guess I'll put it up there's like some I guess I'll put it up there's like a devil like yes figure and then it's a devil like yes figure and then it's a devil like yes figure and then it's blacked out what the um the name of this blacked out what the um the name of this blacked out what the um the name of this figure is but it says it's this figure's figure is but it says it's this figure's figure is but it says it's this figure's original original original form and it's like a form and it's like a form and it's like a L's original form but it's L's original form but it's L's original form but it's highly um assumed that it would

  35. highly um assumed that it would highly um assumed that it would be I think that's probably L's original be I think that's probably L's original be I think that's probably L's original form but on that page it doesn't form but on that page it doesn't form but on that page it doesn't specifically say that that's L's specifically say that that's L's specifically say that that's L's original form right no it's blacked it's original form right no it's blacked it's original form right no it's blacked it's it's blacked out it does say in the body it's blacked out it does say in the body it's blacked out it does say in the body of the text though it's like uh oh it's of the text though it's like uh oh it's of the text though it's like uh oh it's suspicious that the words after the name suspicious that the words after the name suspicious that the words after the name that's blacked out says original form that's blacked out says original form that's blacked out says original form and it also says says this character and it also says says this character and it also says says this character resembles like the Zen blade one uh resembles like the Zen blade one uh resembles like the Zen blade one uh makina ma oh which is also interesting makina ma oh which is also interesting makina ma oh which is also interesting interesting do do you think we'll see interesting do do you think we'll see interesting do do you think we'll see that in the definitive edition do you that in the definitive edition do you that in the definitive edition do you think we'll get think we'll get think we'll get Lor I hope I hope so too I I feel like Lor I hope I hope so too I I feel like Lor I hope I hope so too I I feel like it might be too much to juggle and it might be too much to juggle and it might be too much to juggle and claran uh people Lone Hero origin Ora claran uh people Lone Hero origin Ora claran uh people Lone Hero origin Ora boros and then L as well L very much boros and then L as well L very much boros and then L as well L very much could tie into Xenoblade 3 stuff with could tie into Xenoblade 3 stuff with could tie into Xenoblade 3 stuff with the collective unconscious and Mobius the collective unconscious and Mobius the collective unconscious and Mobius and all that but they can tease it and and all that but they can tease it and and all that but they can tease it and maybe tied into a sequel but I I want to maybe tied into a sequel but I I want to maybe tied into a sequel but I I want to see that I want to see that yeah I think see that I want to see that yeah I think see that I want to see that yeah I think if we get a full like Revelation on how if we get a full like Revelation on how if we get a full like Revelation on how origin is working in mea I think I think origin is working in mea I think I think origin is working in mea I think I think they'll explain L uh in the in the they'll explain L uh in the in the they'll explain L uh in the in the process of that process of that process of that happening yeah uh what else he's oh yeah happening yeah uh what else he's oh yeah happening yeah uh what else he's oh yeah so in or or sorry in origin in mea all so in or or sorry in origin in mea all so in or or sorry in origin in mea all the other races like they they speak to the other races like they they speak to the other races like they they speak to each other and their language is

  36. each other and their language is each other and their language is automatically yes translated right automatically yes translated right automatically yes translated right uh and Elma says at one point that uh and Elma says at one point that uh and Elma says at one point that basically their will is being converted basically their will is being converted basically their will is being converted into the native language of whoever into the native language of whoever into the native language of whoever they're talking to um and I think you they're talking to um and I think you they're talking to um and I think you could basically say that this is like could basically say that this is like could basically say that this is like the source code of mirror is doing this the source code of mirror is doing this the source code of mirror is doing this so L on the other hand he's not doing so L on the other hand he's not doing so L on the other hand he's not doing this he's not using this system he he this he's not using this system he he this he's not using this system he he learns everything through the learns everything through the learns everything through the lifeold right he he went through the lifeold right he he went through the lifeold right he he went through the lifeold data and learned some broken lifeold data and learned some broken lifeold data and learned some broken version of English even though if he had version of English even though if he had version of English even though if he had a you know native language he he could a you know native language he he could a you know native language he he could just speak and it would be translated just speak and it would be translated just speak and it would be translated perfectly perfectly perfectly translated do you think he was like a translated do you think he was like a translated do you think he was like a blank slate before he found the lifeold blank slate before he found the lifeold blank slate before he found the lifeold I think he I think he's still kind of a I think he I think he's still kind of a I think he I think he's still kind of a blank slate I'm not sure if you're blank slate I'm not sure if you're blank slate I'm not sure if you're saying like maybe he was given some form saying like maybe he was given some form saying like maybe he was given some form by the by the by the lifeold um in terms of maybe just mental lifeold um in terms of maybe just mental lifeold um in terms of maybe just mental Consciousness like I I I wonder what he Consciousness like I I I wonder what he Consciousness like I I I wonder what he was like was like was like before interacting with all that yeah I before interacting with all that yeah I before interacting with all that yeah I guess I I think he was probably the same guess I I think he was probably the same guess I I think he was probably the same he seems like he seems like he did he seems like he seems like he did he seems like he seems like he did exist um prior to the lifeold stuff like exist um prior to the lifeold stuff like exist um prior to the lifeold stuff like in his in his current state like as a in his in his current state like as a in his in his current state like as a curious whatever yeah guy curious being

  37. curious whatever yeah guy curious being curious whatever yeah guy curious being I guess what I'm most curious about is I guess what I'm most curious about is I guess what I'm most curious about is um what brought him into being like um what brought him into being like um what brought him into being like what if he's part of the collective what if he's part of the collective what if he's part of the collective unconscious that usually requires either unconscious that usually requires either unconscious that usually requires either a super strong will of many people or a super strong will of many people or a super strong will of many people or one person or a few people people that one person or a few people people that one person or a few people people that have a exceptional will so what brought have a exceptional will so what brought have a exceptional will so what brought L this seemingly not very L this seemingly not very L this seemingly not very ambitious guy of the collective ambitious guy of the collective ambitious guy of the collective unconscious in and I guess I want to unconscious in and I guess I want to unconscious in and I guess I want to draw one more comparison to him and Zed draw one more comparison to him and Zed draw one more comparison to him and Zed is that Zed of course he's most famous is that Zed of course he's most famous is that Zed of course he's most famous for his reasoning because it amuses me for his reasoning because it amuses me for his reasoning because it amuses me uh I think L could uh I think L could uh I think L could be described similarly uh in his be described similarly uh in his be described similarly uh in his motivation motivation motivation so yeah many things in his quest are so yeah many things in his quest are so yeah many things in his quest are just for amusement selling random things just for amusement selling random things just for amusement selling random things to people who won't F used to it and all to people who won't F used to it and all to people who won't F used to it and all that learning about different people in that learning about different people in that learning about different people in that way he it's very interesting that that way he it's very interesting that that way he it's very interesting that we can find parallels to the concept of we can find parallels to the concept of we can find parallels to the concept of Mobius in X but it's completely reversed Mobius in X but it's completely reversed Mobius in X but it's completely reversed in that way likeus was created through in that way likeus was created through in that way likeus was created through the collective unconscious of origin the collective unconscious of origin the collective unconscious of origin but maybe um Elma and the Lone Hero were but maybe um Elma and the Lone Hero were but maybe um Elma and the Lone Hero were also created through the collective also created through the collective also created through the collective unconscious of origin but for a unconscious of origin but for a unconscious of origin but for a different purpose whereas people wanted different purpose whereas people wanted different purpose whereas people wanted to stay in the past as Mobius they to stay in the past as Mobius they to stay in the past as Mobius they wanted like maybe people wanted to like

  38. wanted like maybe people wanted to like wanted like maybe people wanted to like save the save the save the present with um right um X and then uh present with um right um X and then uh present with um right um X and then uh similarly with um uh L how we can see similarly with um uh L how we can see similarly with um uh L how we can see slight parallels to him and Zed but slight parallels to him and Zed but slight parallels to him and Zed but there still like complete opposites in there still like complete opposites in there still like complete opposites in that way that way that way yeah I wonder if the ghost this is sorry yeah I wonder if the ghost this is sorry yeah I wonder if the ghost this is sorry I'm going to pange cack a bit here but I'm going to pange cack a bit here but I'm going to pange cack a bit here but I'm I want to give an idea about the I'm I want to give an idea about the I'm I want to give an idea about the ghost and see what you think about it ghost and see what you think about it ghost and see what you think about it but you know the ghosts they're kind of but you know the ghosts they're kind of but you know the ghosts they're kind of just dead set on destroying just dead set on destroying just dead set on destroying Humanity uh at least it seems that way Humanity uh at least it seems that way Humanity uh at least it seems that way and their name the ghosts it almost it and their name the ghosts it almost it and their name the ghosts it almost it kind of implies maybe that they're the kind of implies maybe that they're the kind of implies maybe that they're the remnants of some people that were in remnants of some people that were in remnants of some people that were in control of origin at one control of origin at one control of origin at one point could it be that like the ghosts point could it be that like the ghosts point could it be that like the ghosts are some collective unconscious that has are some collective unconscious that has are some collective unconscious that has lost doesn't really have a leader lost doesn't really have a leader lost doesn't really have a leader doesn't really have any doesn't really have any doesn't really have any identity um and that for some identity um and that for some identity um and that for some reason wants to destroy Humanity yeah I think I don't know that was just kind I think I don't know that was just kind of a random idea but well we'll see we of a random idea but well we'll see we of a random idea but well we'll see we have next to no idea of what the ghosts have next to no idea of what the ghosts have next to no idea of what the ghosts are and what they want and I if I'm not are and what they want and I if I'm not are and what they want and I if I'm not mistaken even the art book doesn't mistaken even the art book doesn't mistaken even the art book doesn't describe much about them either so I'm

  39. describe much about them either so I'm describe much about them either so I'm I'm curious curious to see more about I'm curious curious to see more about I'm curious curious to see more about them let me see in my notes if there's them let me see in my notes if there's them let me see in my notes if there's anything else that I had in particular anything else that I had in particular anything else that I had in particular oh yeah yeah yeah okay you got to talk oh yeah yeah yeah okay you got to talk oh yeah yeah yeah okay you got to talk about the final area yes that's exactly about the final area yes that's exactly about the final area yes that's exactly yeah that's exactly what I saw on my yeah that's exactly what I saw on my yeah that's exactly what I saw on my notes we're we're on the right track notes we're we're on the right track notes we're we're on the right track here yeah final area you had a lot to here yeah final area you had a lot to here yeah final area you had a lot to say about this regarding the yeah you say about this regarding the yeah you say about this regarding the yeah you talked about the oblivia ring and what talked about the oblivia ring and what talked about the oblivia ring and what we saw on there and then you said like we saw on there and then you said like we saw on there and then you said like this potentially could be like maybe not this potentially could be like maybe not this potentially could be like maybe not exactly like alamoth but it might be our exactly like alamoth but it might be our exactly like alamoth but it might be our mirror version of alamoth sort of yeah mirror version of alamoth sort of yeah mirror version of alamoth sort of yeah so there's some concept art that uh so there's some concept art that uh so there's some concept art that uh imperfect Works had shared with me yeah imperfect Works had shared with me yeah imperfect Works had shared with me yeah uh a while ago and you know a channel uh a while ago and you know a channel uh a while ago and you know a channel you guys should subscribe to uh yeah he you guys should subscribe to uh yeah he you guys should subscribe to uh yeah he he makes some great videos especially he makes some great videos especially he makes some great videos especially his most recent x video that was that his most recent x video that was that his most recent x video that was that was a great video um this concept art uh was a great video um this concept art uh was a great video um this concept art uh became stood out to me after this became stood out to me after this became stood out to me after this trailer release uh basically it shows trailer release uh basically it shows trailer release uh basically it shows the oblivia Rings as part of the weapon the oblivia Rings as part of the weapon the oblivia Rings as part of the weapon that it was once part of uh for those that it was once part of uh for those that it was once part of uh for those native Miran people and it's this kind native Miran people and it's this kind native Miran people and it's this kind of of of alamoth maybe you can put this up in the alamoth maybe you can put this up in the alamoth maybe you can put this up in the video yes like this alamoth like uh video yes like this alamoth like uh video yes like this alamoth like uh structor with the oblivia Rings under it structor with the oblivia Rings under it structor with the oblivia Rings under it and then a monolith in the middle that and then a monolith in the middle that and then a monolith in the middle that has like brown and green

  40. has like brown and green has like brown and green colors so obviously the Oblivion Rings colors so obviously the Oblivion Rings colors so obviously the Oblivion Rings fall but this fall but this fall but this centerpiece it's nowhere to be found in centerpiece it's nowhere to be found in centerpiece it's nowhere to be found in the game uh the game uh the game uh so I think it's probably still up there so I think it's probably still up there so I think it's probably still up there and it's probably what we're seeing in and it's probably what we're seeing in and it's probably what we're seeing in the trailer it's it's got the same color the trailer it's it's got the same color the trailer it's it's got the same color scheme yeah and we see uh we see the scheme yeah and we see uh we see the scheme yeah and we see uh we see the ghosts attacking the party right at the ghosts attacking the party right at the ghosts attacking the party right at the oblivia Rings yes um so the Lone Hero is oblivia Rings yes um so the Lone Hero is oblivia Rings yes um so the Lone Hero is fighting the ghosts and Elma states that fighting the ghosts and Elma states that fighting the ghosts and Elma states that the Lone Hero was leading them to this the Lone Hero was leading them to this the Lone Hero was leading them to this new new new area um area um area um so I think we're probably going to be so I think we're probably going to be so I think we're probably going to be going to this Castle basically yeah uh going to this Castle basically yeah uh going to this Castle basically yeah uh that was from those native miror people that was from those native miror people that was from those native miror people all that time ago so do you think this all that time ago so do you think this all that time ago so do you think this is a new race of people that we'll learn is a new race of people that we'll learn is a new race of people that we'll learn about I think they'll probably about I think they'll probably about I think they'll probably be humans I think um what if there's be humans I think um what if there's be humans I think um what if there's Samar right that's what I think they'll Samar right that's what I think they'll Samar right that's what I think they'll I'm wondering if you just have to wonder I'm wondering if you just have to wonder I'm wondering if you just have to wonder what was going on like inside origin what was going on like inside origin what was going on like inside origin simulated world you know what what goes simulated world you know what what goes simulated world you know what what goes on in origin simulated world through all on in origin simulated world through all on in origin simulated world through all that time after iono like after the that time after iono like after the that time after iono like after the endless now there's apparently there's

  41. endless now there's apparently there's endless now there's apparently there's still a world happening inside of still a world happening inside of still a world happening inside of origin origin origin so I think this is probably some version so I think this is probably some version so I think this is probably some version of of of alamoth uh maybe it's not the same one alamoth uh maybe it's not the same one alamoth uh maybe it's not the same one right it's not the alamoth but it is right it's not the alamoth but it is right it's not the alamoth but it is awfully it awfully resembles alcha a awfully it awfully resembles alcha a awfully it awfully resembles alcha a lot lot lot um maybe it has some control over um maybe it has some control over um maybe it has some control over origin possibly maybe this will be the origin possibly maybe this will be the origin possibly maybe this will be the key to uh being able to escape mirror key to uh being able to escape mirror key to uh being able to escape mirror you know escape the Ed now if you will you know escape the Ed now if you will you know escape the Ed now if you will that would be a nice goal for the endend that would be a nice goal for the endend that would be a nice goal for the endend of the of the of the game right and like the whole the whole game right and like the whole the whole game right and like the whole the whole like Cliffhanger at of X is there's like Cliffhanger at of X is there's like Cliffhanger at of X is there's something about this planet what's going something about this planet what's going something about this planet what's going on with this planet and if we come to on with this planet and if we come to on with this planet and if we come to the conclusion once we figure it out the conclusion once we figure it out the conclusion once we figure it out that would be a great tie like book end that would be a great tie like book end that would be a great tie like book end to the game and then if they want to to the game and then if they want to to the game and then if they want to teasear and some other stuff they can teasear and some other stuff they can teasear and some other stuff they can tie it into the rest of the game by yeah tie it into the rest of the game by yeah tie it into the rest of the game by yeah teasing origin Samar all that teasing origin Samar all that teasing origin Samar all that stuff yeah stuff yeah stuff yeah uh also that Shield that was shown or uh also that Shield that was shown or uh also that Shield that was shown or like the the barrier that was shown like the the barrier that was shown like the the barrier that was shown inside the trailer that the this new inside the trailer that the this new inside the trailer that the this new area is like kind of inside it did area is like kind of inside it did area is like kind of inside it did remind me of high entia like aesthetic I remind me of high entia like aesthetic I remind me of high entia like aesthetic I will say also the floating islands of

  42. will say also the floating islands of will say also the floating islands of course they remind me of Tears of the course they remind me of Tears of the course they remind me of Tears of the Kingdom most definitely but they also Kingdom most definitely but they also Kingdom most definitely but they also give like um um aith sea and syy give like um um aith sea and syy give like um um aith sea and syy hovering Reef Vibes cuz hovering Reef Vibes cuz hovering Reef Vibes cuz in Xenoblade 3 is mostely the remains of in Xenoblade 3 is mostely the remains of in Xenoblade 3 is mostely the remains of er SE of Xenoblade 1 but then yeah some er SE of Xenoblade 1 but then yeah some er SE of Xenoblade 1 but then yeah some of is in arthia cadencia but the main of is in arthia cadencia but the main of is in arthia cadencia but the main like hovering reefs that you see in uh like hovering reefs that you see in uh like hovering reefs that you see in uh arith SE in Xenoblade 1 are syy Haring arith SE in Xenoblade 1 are syy Haring arith SE in Xenoblade 1 are syy Haring reefs and Xenoblade 3 and these floating reefs and Xenoblade 3 and these floating reefs and Xenoblade 3 and these floating islands just give me that kind of islands just give me that kind of islands just give me that kind of vibe yeah they definitely they vibe yeah they definitely they vibe yeah they definitely they definitely give off the same kind of definitely give off the same kind of definitely give off the same kind of vibe like this this whole thing is is vibe like this this whole thing is is vibe like this this whole thing is is very inent of kis Castle very inent of kis Castle very inent of kis Castle alche uh I think it's got to be got to alche uh I think it's got to be got to alche uh I think it's got to be got to be related somehow yeah nopon you want be related somehow yeah nopon you want be related somehow yeah nopon you want to talk about noon a little bit I have to talk about noon a little bit I have to talk about noon a little bit I have no idea about the napon except for the no idea about the napon except for the no idea about the napon except for the fact that fact that fact that like a lot of tatsu's silly jokes and like a lot of tatsu's silly jokes and like a lot of tatsu's silly jokes and references to Xenoblade one initially references to Xenoblade one initially references to Xenoblade one initially could be just chalked up as references could be just chalked up as references could be just chalked up as references to Zeno blade one to Zeno blade one to Zeno blade one but who knows with all the stuff we've but who knows with all the stuff we've but who knows with all the stuff we've been talking about who who knows been talking about who who knows been talking about who who knows because M if what we believe that X is because M if what we believe that X is because M if what we believe that X is far into the Future Past all these far into the Future Past all these far into the Future Past all these games how does Tatsu like know about HS games how does Tatsu like know about HS games how does Tatsu like know about HS and Frontier Village like that's I think

  43. and Frontier Village like that's I think and Frontier Village like that's I think that could be explained just by the that could be explained just by the that could be explained just by the passing down of information yeah but I passing down of information yeah but I passing down of information yeah but I mean yeah obviously it's a stretch but mean yeah obviously it's a stretch but mean yeah obviously it's a stretch but uh origin has the memories of everything uh origin has the memories of everything uh origin has the memories of everything and everyone right and there's relics of and everyone right and there's relics of and everyone right and there's relics of and I guess it makes sense that like the and I guess it makes sense that like the and I guess it makes sense that like the stories of the creators of origin would stories of the creators of origin would stories of the creators of origin would be passed down over that long period of be passed down over that long period of be passed down over that long period of time uh I guess some small evidence of time uh I guess some small evidence of time uh I guess some small evidence of this is there's actually a collectible this is there's actually a collectible this is there's actually a collectible inside of Zen blade X oh yeah that is inside of Zen blade X oh yeah that is inside of Zen blade X oh yeah that is the two fight two Titans fighting each the two fight two Titans fighting each the two fight two Titans fighting each other so clearly there's still like other so clearly there's still like other so clearly there's still like remnants of the story of Zen blade one remnants of the story of Zen blade one remnants of the story of Zen blade one and Zen Blade 2 what is thatle Zade and Zen Blade 2 what is thatle Zade and Zen Blade 2 what is thatle Zade one uh it's called like Titan statue or one uh it's called like Titan statue or one uh it's called like Titan statue or something like that um but it it is it something like that um but it it is it something like that um but it it is it is two Titans locked in battle wow um I is two Titans locked in battle wow um I is two Titans locked in battle wow um I didn't know like a little figurine I didn't know like a little figurine I didn't know like a little figurine I didn't know that yeah the the didn't know that yeah the the didn't know that yeah the the Collectibles got there's a lot of cool Collectibles got there's a lot of cool Collectibles got there's a lot of cool little L I thought what you were talking little L I thought what you were talking little L I thought what you were talking about was the uror core thing in the about was the uror core thing in the about was the uror core thing in the collectopedia collectopedia collectopedia as well that's another thing that that as well that's another thing that that as well that's another thing that that I'm I'm interested to see if there's any I'm I'm interested to see if there's any I'm I'm interested to see if there's any new design with that because it's a good new design with that because it's a good new design with that because it's a good opportunity to redesign it because it's opportunity to redesign it because it's opportunity to redesign it because it's aw that that grm core is going to aw that that grm core is going to aw that that grm core is going to undergo undergo undergo redesign maybe it's going to start

  44. redesign maybe it's going to start redesign maybe it's going to start looking more like an Interlink core like looking more like an Interlink core like looking more like an Interlink core like it's going to look you know the Aries it's going to look you know the Aries it's going to look you know the Aries has those those cores on them yeah in has those those cores on them yeah in has those those cores on them yeah in the original in in act I you know like I the original in in act I you know like I the original in in act I you know like I said it's hard to see that opening cut said it's hard to see that opening cut said it's hard to see that opening cut scene perfectly but it looks like those scene perfectly but it looks like those scene perfectly but it looks like those cores are just grum cores like they look cores are just grum cores like they look cores are just grum cores like they look like every other grum core like the ones like every other grum core like the ones like every other grum core like the ones on the uh Granada GG armor um so that's on the uh Granada GG armor um so that's on the uh Granada GG armor um so that's on the Aries you're talking on the Aries you're talking on the Aries you're talking about right that's on the area um and so about right that's on the area um and so about right that's on the area um and so I'm pretty sure those same cores are I'm pretty sure those same cores are I'm pretty sure those same cores are shared on the ver GG shared on the ver GG shared on the ver GG armor it might not happen um because armor it might not happen um because armor it might not happen um because they might want to save those for the they might want to save those for the they might want to save those for the Aries itself and just the ghosts um but Aries itself and just the ghosts um but Aries itself and just the ghosts um but it would be it would definitely be very it would be it would definitely be very it would be it would definitely be very interesting if we if we saw those oror interesting if we if we saw those oror interesting if we if we saw those oror looking cores show up elsewhere even looking cores show up elsewhere even looking cores show up elsewhere even just in armor you know just in armor you know just in armor you know yeah um yeah what else about the naon yeah um yeah what else about the naon yeah um yeah what else about the naon though because though because though because yeah they're native Mir I guess that's yeah they're native Mir I guess that's yeah they're native Mir I guess that's the most important thing they're they're the most important thing they're they're the most important thing they're they're Native Native Mir and they know about Native Native Mir and they know about Native Native Mir and they know about Zen blade one Zen blade one Zen blade one stuff um does does Tatsu have anything stuff um does does Tatsu have anything stuff um does does Tatsu have anything to say about ttha I don't know that actually I I ttha I don't know that actually I I wouldn't be able to tell you it is it is wouldn't be able to tell you it is it is wouldn't be able to tell you it is it is very interesting though that talethia is

  45. very interesting though that talethia is very interesting though that talethia is referred to as the endbringer which many referred to as the endbringer which many referred to as the endbringer which many other other other like um entities sword of the end sword like um entities sword of the end sword like um entities sword of the end sword of the end Zed the har Zed haringer of of the end Zed the har Zed haringer of of the end Zed the har Zed haringer of the end malos refers to himself as the the end malos refers to himself as the the end malos refers to himself as the endbringer we we'll get to Mal and logos endbringer we we'll get to Mal and logos endbringer we we'll get to Mal and logos in a little bit as well but yeah right in a little bit as well but yeah right in a little bit as well but yeah right and Mel is the Mel and Mel is the Mel and Mel is the Mel is weer to as the world Ender yeah um is weer to as the world Ender yeah um is weer to as the world Ender yeah um and just the existence of toia I mean t and just the existence of toia I mean t and just the existence of toia I mean t what is a Pia it's a cell of a bionis so what is a Pia it's a cell of a bionis so what is a Pia it's a cell of a bionis so either X is not canon or it's connected either X is not canon or it's connected either X is not canon or it's connected the I don't one yeah right um I guess the I don't one yeah right um I guess the I don't one yeah right um I guess something about the toia that kind of something about the toia that kind of something about the toia that kind of gives it its status as you know maybe a gives it its status as you know maybe a gives it its status as you know maybe a divine creature within divine creature within divine creature within mea uh is that it was able to so easily mea uh is that it was able to so easily mea uh is that it was able to so easily take out the tainted yeah um in take out the tainted yeah um in take out the tainted yeah um in imperfect Works U mentioned this in his imperfect Works U mentioned this in his imperfect Works U mentioned this in his video but the video but the video but the tainted and I I agree with him on this tainted and I I agree with him on this tainted and I I agree with him on this for sure is that it seems like they're for sure is that it seems like they're for sure is that it seems like they're taken over by like some will that's taken over by like some will that's taken over by like some will that's happening inside of origin they they happening inside of origin they they happening inside of origin they they look to be like normal like monsters in look to be like normal like monsters in look to be like normal like monsters in Mirror like those Jaguar like Monsters Mirror like those Jaguar like Monsters Mirror like those Jaguar like Monsters they look like that but they're taken they look like that but they're taken they look like that but they're taken over by something else yeah yeah they

  46. over by something else yeah yeah they over by something else yeah yeah they they are just like they are just like they are just like reskinned uh creatures just like fog reskinned uh creatures just like fog reskinned uh creatures just like fog Beast are they're like fog Beast Beast are they're like fog Beast Beast are they're like fog Beast exactly exactly exactly so and I think everyone comes to the so and I think everyone comes to the so and I think everyone comes to the same that everyone who's seen fogbees same that everyone who's seen fogbees same that everyone who's seen fogbees looks at the Ted and they're like those looks at the Ted and they're like those looks at the Ted and they're like those look look look similar similar similar um so so some Divine will being able to um so so some Divine will being able to um so so some Divine will being able to be defeated by toia I think is be defeated by toia I think is be defeated by toia I think is significant in showing that significant in showing that significant in showing that uh CIA still have some status within uh uh CIA still have some status within uh uh CIA still have some status within uh origin's hierarchy I guess uh I think we origin's hierarchy I guess uh I think we origin's hierarchy I guess uh I think we got everything in my got everything in my got everything in my notes um toia napon one last thing I notes um toia napon one last thing I notes um toia napon one last thing I want to talk about which wasn't in my want to talk about which wasn't in my want to talk about which wasn't in my notes I guess we can close off with with notes I guess we can close off with with notes I guess we can close off with with this is this is this is logos what is up with logos oh my gosh logos what is up with logos oh my gosh logos what is up with logos oh my gosh how did I forget we we got through this how did I forget we we got through this how did I forget we we got through this whole discussion without talking about whole discussion without talking about whole discussion without talking about logos and my Logos is it's so funny like the beginning the is it's so funny like the beginning the first trailer we got for xde everyone's first trailer we got for xde everyone's first trailer we got for xde everyone's like oh my God malos logos all that and like oh my God malos logos all that and like oh my God malos logos all that and even he was part of a lot of our even he was part of a lot of our even he was part of a lot of our discussion with like once I beat the discussion with like once I beat the discussion with like once I beat the game as well and now once we know that game as well and now once we know that game as well and now once we know that the Lone Hero is probably going to be the Lone Hero is probably going to be the Lone Hero is probably going to be this guy and like the Black Knight might this guy and like the Black Knight might this guy and like the Black Knight might be this guy logos talk has kind of like be this guy logos talk has kind of like be this guy logos talk has kind of like been on the downturn but I still think been on the downturn but I still think been on the downturn but I still think yeah there is something relating to yeah there is something relating to yeah there is something relating to logos logos is coming back malos is

  47. logos logos is coming back malos is logos logos is coming back malos is coming back I I I feel it maybe not in coming back I I I feel it maybe not in coming back I I I feel it maybe not in this this this but the the it's always that VA and the but the the it's always that VA and the but the the it's always that VA and the great one like uh imperfect Works was great one like uh imperfect Works was great one like uh imperfect Works was saying that the great one could be saying that the great one could be saying that the great one could be Demitri yuv which makes total sense I Demitri yuv which makes total sense I Demitri yuv which makes total sense I think that makes more sense than think that makes more sense than think that makes more sense than anything because he could be like the anything because he could be like the anything because he could be like the Samarian God and I I don't know much Samarian God and I I don't know much Samarian God and I I don't know much about xenosaga I haven't play it yet but about xenosaga I haven't play it yet but about xenosaga I haven't play it yet but it makes sense for someone like him to it makes sense for someone like him to it makes sense for someone like him to be like a Samarian God and the gangan be like a Samarian God and the gangan be like a Samarian God and the gangan look up to him in that look up to him in that look up to him in that way but that whole like color scheme of way but that whole like color scheme of way but that whole like color scheme of the vaita and the purple Hue and all the vaita and the purple Hue and all the vaita and the purple Hue and all that it just gave me way too much M that it just gave me way too much M that it just gave me way too much M Vibes and then like logos artificial Vibes and then like logos artificial Vibes and then like logos artificial emancipator and then that also means emancipator and then that also means emancipator and then that also means beyond the logos artificial artificial beyond the logos artificial artificial beyond the logos artificial artificial Destiny emancipator is basically a Destiny emancipator is basically a Destiny emancipator is basically a manato Beyond right it just basically manato Beyond right it just basically manato Beyond right it just basically means Beyond malo's manado means Beyond malo's manado means Beyond malo's manado be Beyond The Sword of the end it could be Beyond The Sword of the end it could be Beyond The Sword of the end it could even mean that because and sword of the even mean that because and sword of the even mean that because and sword of the end is malos in that monato form as well end is malos in that monato form as well end is malos in that monato form as well right that's way too literally like I right that's way too literally like I right that's way too literally like I don't know I think you could yeah I don't know I think you could yeah I don't know I think you could yeah I think you could just refer to logo the think you could just refer to logo the think you could just refer to logo the logos core itself as the artificial logos core itself as the artificial logos core itself as the artificial Destiny emancipator but of course I mean Destiny emancipator but of course I mean Destiny emancipator but of course I mean the definition of manado is somewhat the definition of manado is somewhat the definition of manado is somewhat like you can you can say a lot of things

  48. like you can you can say a lot of things like you can you can say a lot of things are bends to your you can are bends to your you can are bends to your you can manipulate ether to bend to your will manipulate ether to bend to your will manipulate ether to bend to your will once you have control over it right so once you have control over it right so once you have control over it right so what I think what I think what I think is we have to look at the name Beyond is we have to look at the name Beyond is we have to look at the name Beyond logos artificial Destiny emancipator and logos artificial Destiny emancipator and logos artificial Destiny emancipator and say okay so why is it called beyond the say okay so why is it called beyond the say okay so why is it called beyond the the logest artificial Destiny the logest artificial Destiny the logest artificial Destiny emancipator it implies that it was there emancipator it implies that it was there emancipator it implies that it was there at one point and now it's at one point and now it's at one point and now it's not not not so what was there prior to blades exist so what was there prior to blades exist so what was there prior to blades exist istence that is not there when BL istence that is not there when BL istence that is not there when BL started it's the Aries I think um the started it's the Aries I think um the started it's the Aries I think um the Aries disappears in that battle against Aries disappears in that battle against Aries disappears in that battle against the ghosts when they're uh being the ghosts when they're uh being the ghosts when they're uh being swallowed by swallowed by swallowed by origin and now we have to make an origin and now we have to make an origin and now we have to make an organization called beyond the lest organization called beyond the lest organization called beyond the lest artificial Destiny artificial Destiny artificial Destiny emancipator and emancipator and emancipator and additionally the Aries in Zeno Blade additionally the Aries in Zeno Blade additionally the Aries in Zeno Blade 3 was largely based around or it was 3 was largely based around or it was 3 was largely based around or it was kind of supported by kind of supported by kind of supported by Numa um so I think it would make sense Numa um so I think it would make sense Numa um so I think it would make sense that both like in I guess an aesthetic that both like in I guess an aesthetic that both like in I guess an aesthetic sense where sense where sense where Numa was kind of the basis for the Aries Numa was kind of the basis for the Aries Numa was kind of the basis for the Aries in in in three logos will might be the basis of three logos will might be the basis of three logos will might be the basis of the Aries in zlade act uh I guess and the Aries in zlade act uh I guess and the Aries in zlade act uh I guess and one more thing the AAS wields

  49. one more thing the AAS wields one more thing the AAS wields something that looks an awful lot like something that looks an awful lot like something that looks an awful lot like the sort of origin or sort of the end the sort of origin or sort of the end the sort of origin or sort of the end yeah in this trailer right in both the yeah in this trailer right in both the yeah in this trailer right in both the original uh cut scenes and in this original uh cut scenes and in this original uh cut scenes and in this trailer I need to go back and look at trailer I need to go back and look at trailer I need to go back and look at that definitely take a look at it it that definitely take a look at it it that definitely take a look at it it basically looks like it's like a Dry basically looks like it's like a Dry basically looks like it's like a Dry Blade type thing but um it's basically Blade type thing but um it's basically Blade type thing but um it's basically the sort of origin with two like the sort of origin with two like the sort of origin with two like splitting blades on it okay and you can splitting blades on it okay and you can splitting blades on it okay and you can you can go back to the original cut you can go back to the original cut you can go back to the original cut scene and see that there as well scene and see that there as well scene and see that there as well something that's not in the new cut something that's not in the new cut something that's not in the new cut scene that was in the old cut scene that scene that was in the old cut scene that scene that was in the old cut scene that also made me think that the arrow might also made me think that the arrow might also made me think that the arrow might be Aries might be logos and it's kind of be Aries might be logos and it's kind of be Aries might be logos and it's kind of part of this changed design so in Zen part of this changed design so in Zen part of this changed design so in Zen Blade 2 you know when um Numa and logos Blade 2 you know when um Numa and logos Blade 2 you know when um Numa and logos or malos and methra are controlling or malos and methra are controlling or malos and methra are controlling their Sirens their cor like gives off their Sirens their cor like gives off their Sirens their cor like gives off this like this like this like really bright really bright really bright Sparkle of light I guess you could say Sparkle of light I guess you could say Sparkle of light I guess you could say and like kind of a there's like a and like kind of a there's like a and like kind of a there's like a rainbow Circle lens flare type thing rainbow Circle lens flare type thing rainbow Circle lens flare type thing going on so in the X Cuts scene of the going on so in the X Cuts scene of the going on so in the X Cuts scene of the Aries like the original Aries like the original Aries like the original game uh where the Lone Hero is fighting game uh where the Lone Hero is fighting game uh where the Lone Hero is fighting against the ghost if you look closely against the ghost if you look closely against the ghost if you look closely you can see the same like sparkle of you can see the same like sparkle of you can see the same like sparkle of light that the eges have on the center T light that the eges have on the center T light that the eges have on the center T of the Aries now that's not there of the Aries now that's not there of the Aries now that's not there anymore in The Definitive Edition but

  50. anymore in The Definitive Edition but anymore in The Definitive Edition but that's only because I think that's only that's only because I think that's only that's only because I think that's only because they because they because they shifted design like the design is not shifted design like the design is not shifted design like the design is not the same anymore where maybe they were the same anymore where maybe they were the same anymore where maybe they were going to go for a more direct design of going to go for a more direct design of going to go for a more direct design of maybe having the logos core being maybe having the logos core being maybe having the logos core being visible in the center or something like visible in the center or something like visible in the center or something like that um whereas now it's those origin that um whereas now it's those origin that um whereas now it's those origin like ORS I guess yeah that that that is like ORS I guess yeah that that that is like ORS I guess yeah that that that is an interesting an interesting an interesting observation send me send me video observation send me send me video observation send me send me video of when Numa and logos do that kind of of when Numa and logos do that kind of of when Numa and logos do that kind of thing because yeah I will I want to look thing because yeah I will I want to look thing because yeah I will I want to look into that more but that that is very into that more but that that is very into that more but that that is very interesting that you like we're noticing interesting that you like we're noticing interesting that you like we're noticing a lot of these connections I remember we a lot of these connections I remember we a lot of these connections I remember we also noticed a connection between how also noticed a connection between how also noticed a connection between how the Numa core being green of course like the Numa core being green of course like the Numa core being green of course like you see it in future redeemed and you see it in future redeemed and you see it in future redeemed and Xenoblade 3 with Noah Xenoblade 3 with Noah Xenoblade 3 with Noah using his uh oroboros and his sword of using his uh oroboros and his sword of using his uh oroboros and his sword of the end it's got the green Hue but that the end it's got the green Hue but that the end it's got the green Hue but that green Hue was all the way back in Xeno green Hue was all the way back in Xeno green Hue was all the way back in Xeno Gears of the animal relics too like when Gears of the animal relics too like when Gears of the animal relics too like when I was playing like I remember you I was playing like I remember you I was playing like I remember you mentioned that to me before I even mentioned that to me before I even mentioned that to me before I even started Xeno gears and then I played started Xeno gears and then I played started Xeno gears and then I played Xeno gears and I was like ah animal Xeno gears and I was like ah animal Xeno gears and I was like ah animal relics yeah it you can also yeah it you relics yeah it you can also yeah it you relics yeah it you can also yeah it you see it on the anima relics you can also see it on the anima relics you can also see it on the anima relics you can also see it on well Tall ID actually he has see it on well Tall ID actually he has see it on well Tall ID actually he has like like like a like his back like his turbines are a like his back like his turbines are a like his back like his turbines are all all all green yes yes yeah it really does uh

  51. green yes yes yeah it really does uh green yes yes yeah it really does uh really does go all the way back yeah really does go all the way back yeah really does go all the way back yeah yeah um I'll close out with saying this yeah um I'll close out with saying this yeah um I'll close out with saying this but like speaking of Zeno gears I think but like speaking of Zeno gears I think but like speaking of Zeno gears I think I told you this as I was playing and I told you this as I was playing and I told you this as I was playing and after I beat it but I don't I I can't after I beat it but I don't I I can't after I beat it but I don't I I can't look at the series the same way ever look at the series the same way ever look at the series the same way ever again after playing Xeno gear is like my again after playing Xeno gear is like my again after playing Xeno gear is like my whole xenar really gives H yeah a basis whole xenar really gives H yeah a basis whole xenar really gives H yeah a basis like it gives the the de system it like it gives the the de system it like it gives the the de system it really sets that out and it's just really sets that out and it's just really sets that out and it's just everything relating back to perfect everything relating back to perfect everything relating back to perfect works and since this video will go up on works and since this video will go up on works and since this video will go up on my channel I'll give you like a little my channel I'll give you like a little my channel I'll give you like a little some people a little tease like I I have some people a little tease like I I have some people a little tease like I I have this series in my mind of this series in my mind of this series in my mind of videos tying Xenoblade back to perfect videos tying Xenoblade back to perfect videos tying Xenoblade back to perfect works and how it all ties back to what works and how it all ties back to what works and how it all ties back to what Takahashi is established in perfect Takahashi is established in perfect Takahashi is established in perfect works and he did it in such a genius way works and he did it in such a genius way works and he did it in such a genius way but yeah any other last uh final but yeah any other last uh final but yeah any other last uh final thoughts you you have about X Definitive thoughts you you have about X Definitive thoughts you you have about X Definitive Edition and what we could see I think Edition and what we could see I think Edition and what we could see I think it's just I'm just happy that it it it's just I'm just happy that it it it's just I'm just happy that it it panned out this way that the x is panned out this way that the x is panned out this way that the x is finally it no one no one's going to be finally it no one no one's going to be finally it no one no one's going to be able to say oh that was just some silly able to say oh that was just some silly able to say oh that was just some silly thing that they were doing like you know thing that they were doing like you know thing that they were doing like you know they're just throwing that out I I I they're just throwing that out I I I they're just throwing that out I I I just hope they double down on a lot of just hope they double down on a lot of just hope they double down on a lot of this stuff because this is our insane this stuff because this is our insane this stuff because this is our insane crackpot theod this whole like hour crackpot theod this whole like hour crackpot theod this whole like hour we've been rambling about about these we've been rambling about about these we've been rambling about about these theories these are our own crackpot

  52. theories these are our own crackpot theories these are our own crackpot theories it's it's not necessarily theories it's it's not necessarily theories it's it's not necessarily confirmed to like all happen but if it confirmed to like all happen but if it confirmed to like all happen but if it does happen oh my God if it all happens does happen oh my God if it all happens does happen oh my God if it all happens if it all comes together it'll be if it all comes together it'll be if it all comes together it'll be glorious to glorious to glorious to see yeah definitely I I I think uh see yeah definitely I I I think uh see yeah definitely I I I think uh Takashi knows what he's doing I think Takashi knows what he's doing I think Takashi knows what he's doing I think think I know that right now yeah aashi think I know that right now yeah aashi think I know that right now yeah aashi is playing 4D chess with us and I think is playing 4D chess with us and I think is playing 4D chess with us and I think um when we see that Xenoblade X is a um when we see that Xenoblade X is a um when we see that Xenoblade X is a farflung farflung farflung sequel post Xenoblade 4 we're all going sequel post Xenoblade 4 we're all going sequel post Xenoblade 4 we're all going to have our Jaws on the floor but yeah to have our Jaws on the floor but yeah to have our Jaws on the floor but yeah yeah yeah this is just our theories yeah yeah this is just our theories yeah yeah this is just our theories about everything that happens and yeah about everything that happens and yeah about everything that happens and yeah let us know what you think in the let us know what you think in the let us know what you think in the comments below um Jake you want to like comments below um Jake you want to like comments below um Jake you want to like talk about your channel and tease some talk about your channel and tease some talk about your channel and tease some of the work you've been doing or like of the work you've been doing or like of the work you've been doing or like anything that you might have coming up anything that you might have coming up anything that you might have coming up or anything like that yeah so I've been or anything like that yeah so I've been or anything like that yeah so I've been doing X research uh for quite a while doing X research uh for quite a while doing X research uh for quite a while now and just going through the game now and just going through the game now and just going through the game documenting pretty much everything that documenting pretty much everything that documenting pretty much everything that I see all the little dialogues I see all the little dialogues I see all the little dialogues everything like that uh I guess I'm everything like that uh I guess I'm everything like that uh I guess I'm going to have to make some new plans now going to have to make some new plans now going to have to make some new plans now so yeah I've been doing X research for so yeah I've been doing X research for so yeah I've been doing X research for quite a while now just been going quite a while now just been going quite a while now just been going through the game documenting like every through the game documenting like every through the game documenting like every little thing I could little thing I could little thing I could find find find uh I've got a huge document that I'm uh I've got a huge document that I'm uh I've got a huge document that I'm ready to go through and analyze but I

  53. ready to go through and analyze but I ready to go through and analyze but I think now that uh we're getting so much think now that uh we're getting so much think now that uh we're getting so much new content in Definitive Edition I'm new content in Definitive Edition I'm new content in Definitive Edition I'm going to have to see what that comes of going to have to see what that comes of going to have to see what that comes of that and uh go from there but yeah X is that and uh go from there but yeah X is that and uh go from there but yeah X is X is on the menu so yeah I remember you X is on the menu so yeah I remember you X is on the menu so yeah I remember you had to readjust your plans when ionio had to readjust your plans when ionio had to readjust your plans when ionio moments came out and now you have to moments came out and now you have to moments came out and now you have to readjust your plans again with readjust your plans again with readjust your plans again with xde right xde right xde right yeah so I guess we'll see we'll see what yeah so I guess we'll see we'll see what yeah so I guess we'll see we'll see what the future brings and yeah yeah check the future brings and yeah yeah check the future brings and yeah yeah check out Dum xeno's Channel Down Below he has out Dum xeno's Channel Down Below he has out Dum xeno's Channel Down Below he has some like older videos he's done like some like older videos he's done like some like older videos he's done like post future redeemed about like Alpha's post future redeemed about like Alpha's post future redeemed about like Alpha's role in future redeemed the role of the role in future redeemed the role of the role in future redeemed the role of the sort of the end and uh how shul and Rex sort of the end and uh how shul and Rex sort of the end and uh how shul and Rex factor in his avatars and the whole factor in his avatars and the whole factor in his avatars and the whole ionos and origin system very very ionos and origin system very very ionos and origin system very very interesting stuff awesome dude and also interesting stuff awesome dude and also interesting stuff awesome dude and also check out the episode we did on the check out the episode we did on the check out the episode we did on the Conduit cast with Jake that was like one Conduit cast with Jake that was like one Conduit cast with Jake that was like one of the most awesome like Xenoblade of the most awesome like Xenoblade of the most awesome like Xenoblade discussions I've ever had me Jake and discussions I've ever had me Jake and discussions I've ever had me Jake and Kevin were just talking about everything Kevin were just talking about everything Kevin were just talking about everything Xenoblade 3 and we landed to some Xenoblade 3 and we landed to some Xenoblade 3 and we landed to some awesome conclusions as well so that was awesome conclusions as well so that was awesome conclusions as well so that was a lot of fun I'll have that linked down a lot of fun I'll have that linked down a lot of fun I'll have that linked down below but yeah all right yeah below but yeah all right yeah below but yeah all right yeah conversation yeah let us know what you conversation yeah let us know what you conversation yeah let us know what you think of this Theory or these theories think of this Theory or these theories think of this Theory or these theories of ours down in the comments below and of ours down in the comments below and of ours down in the comments below and yeah give this video a like subscribe yeah give this video a like subscribe yeah give this video a like subscribe for more content just like this this is for more content just like this this is for more content just like this this is Nish quck and dum Zeno signing off have Nish quck and dum Zeno signing off have Nish quck and dum Zeno signing off have a great day go play some great games a great day go play some great games a great day go play some great games today like a Xeno game on Nintendo today like a Xeno game on Nintendo today like a Xeno game on Nintendo switch we'll see you in the next one

  54. switch we'll see you in the next one switch we'll see you in the next one later peace later peace later peace later hey guys this is Nish quii thank later hey guys this is Nish quii thank later hey guys this is Nish quii thank you so much for watching that video and you so much for watching that video and you so much for watching that video and if you enjoyed it check out these two if you enjoyed it check out these two if you enjoyed it check out these two videos on the left and maybe subscribe videos on the left and maybe subscribe videos on the left and maybe subscribe if you haven't on your way out and big if you haven't on your way out and big if you haven't on your way out and big shout out to all my channel members shout out to all my channel members shout out to all my channel members whose names you can see on the screen whose names you can see on the screen whose names you can see on the screen right now I'll see you guys in the next right now I'll see you guys in the next right now I'll see you guys in the next video later

Summary

This podcast episode discusses the canon status of Xenoblade X and its lore connections to other Xenoblade games, particularly after a new trailer. The discussion references Xenoblade X's story and protagonist, concluding that the upcoming definitive edition aims to realize the game's original vision and offers a compelling experience.

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