EPISODE 13 - Scott & Mark Learn To… YAP

[Music] [Music] It should be a word. It is like uh you It should be a word. It is like uh you It should be a word. It is like uh you know another good word would be um uh know another good word would be um uh know another good word would be um uh performant that that's Microsoft has performant that that's Microsoft has performant that that's Microsoft has used that word forever. Is that a used that word forever. Is that a used that word forever. Is that a Microsoft word? Yeah. Microsoft people Microsoft word? Yeah. Microsoft people Microsoft word? Yeah. Microsoft people infect their mouths with Microsoft isms. infect their mouths with Microsoft isms. infect their mouths with Microsoft isms. Did you notice that Microsoft people say Did you notice that Microsoft people say Did you notice that Microsoft people say so at the beginning of every sentence? so at the beginning of every sentence? so at the beginning of every sentence? So no actually I don't know that's So no actually I don't know that's So no actually I don't know that's Microsoftism though. You don't think so? Microsoftism though. You don't think so? Microsoftism though. You don't think so? I feel like there's there's infected I feel like there's there's infected I feel like there's there's infected Microsoft like thought words that get Microsoft like thought words that get Microsoft like thought words that get stuck into people's heads. Yeah. I mean stuck into people's heads. Yeah. I mean stuck into people's heads. Yeah. I mean performant is something from the last 15 performant is something from the last 15 performant is something from the last 15 years at Microsoft. You think we did years at Microsoft. You think we did years at Microsoft. You think we did that? I don't know. It's interesting to that? I don't know. It's interesting to that? I don't know. It's interesting to see how language changes in that way. see how language changes in that way. see how language changes in that way. How I How I How I I mean I first heard it here. I mean I first heard it here. I mean I first heard it here. Could your mechanical keyboard be Could your mechanical keyboard be Could your mechanical keyboard be louder? It's really annoying cuz you can louder? It's really annoying cuz you can louder? It's really annoying cuz you can hear me type.

[Music] [Music] What's your favorite technical What's your favorite technical What's your favorite technical conference? conference? conference? It was tech ready. Really? Tech Ready, It was tech ready. Really? Tech Ready, It was tech ready. Really? Tech Ready, the internal tech ready conference. the internal tech ready conference. the internal tech ready conference. Yeah. Yeah. The reason that I liked it Yeah. Yeah. The reason that I liked it Yeah. Yeah. The reason that I liked it is because everybody was there. They is because everybody was there. They is because everybody was there. They were motivated partly because of were motivated partly because of were motivated partly because of interest, partly because of interest, partly because of interest, partly because of paycheck. Um, so it was very paycheck. Um, so it was very paycheck. Um, so it was very enthusiastic audience and I got to be enthusiastic audience and I got to be enthusiastic audience and I got to be unfiltered. That is so true. So unfiltered. That is so true. So unfiltered. That is so true. So TechReady is now given another name. TechReady is now given another name. TechReady is now given another name. TechReady is Microsoft's internal TechReady is Microsoft's internal TechReady is Microsoft's internal conference. We all go to Seattle and conference. We all go to Seattle and conference. We all go to Seattle and it's we're talking to ourselves, but it's we're talking to ourselves, but it's we're talking to ourselves, but we're talking about strategy and the we're talking about strategy and the we're talking about strategy and the future. And I I have a talk that I'm future. And I I have a talk that I'm future. And I I have a talk that I'm doing and I did it at at TechReady last doing and I did it at at TechReady last doing and I did it at at TechReady last week and you were you and I were there week and you were you and I were there week and you were you and I were there and it was that we're selling co-pilot and it was that we're selling co-pilot and it was that we're selling co-pilot wrong and it was so freeing because I wrong and it was so freeing because I wrong and it was so freeing because I could talk about how we're doing things could talk about how we're doing things could talk about how we're doing things internally and I felt very open and the internally and I felt very open and the internally and I felt very open and the audience was picking up on it and the audience was picking up on it and the audience was picking up on it and the vibe was so I'm like why why am I not vibe was so I'm like why why am I not vibe was so I'm like why why am I not saying that more publicly? So it's saying that more publicly? So it's saying that more publicly? So it's actually causing me to talk more actually causing me to talk more actually causing me to talk more publicly about stuff like that. Well, publicly about stuff like that. Well, publicly about stuff like that. Well, there's something like I would give um there's something like I would give um there's something like I would give um an Azure strategy talk. Yeah.

an Azure strategy talk. Yeah. an Azure strategy talk. Yeah. Um, and I did that for probably uh up Um, and I did that for probably uh up Um, and I did that for probably uh up until it basically the conference died until it basically the conference died until it basically the conference died with co um and I even did the f I did with co um and I even did the f I did with co um and I even did the f I did even did it for the first couple even did it for the first couple even did it for the first couple recordings of but what I would do is I recordings of but what I would do is I recordings of but what I would do is I would just give my opinion about the would just give my opinion about the would just give my opinion about the hyperscaler hyperscaler hyperscaler landscape how momentum technology trends landscape how momentum technology trends landscape how momentum technology trends and I that's a talk that I can't give and I that's a talk that I can't give and I that's a talk that I can't give externally for obvious reasons just externally for obvious reasons just externally for obvious reasons just because it's like business strategy and because it's like business strategy and because it's like business strategy and future strategy future strategy future strategy and and opinions. You know, Microsoft and and opinions. You know, Microsoft and and opinions. You know, Microsoft exec bashes whatever competitor or says exec bashes whatever competitor or says exec bashes whatever competitor or says competitor has advantages in certain competitor has advantages in certain competitor has advantages in certain areas, you know. I see. I areas, you know. I see. I areas, you know. I see. I see. That is challenging. Like I try to see. That is challenging. Like I try to see. That is challenging. Like I try to be the same person internally as I'm out be the same person internally as I'm out be the same person internally as I'm out externally, but we talked about it on externally, but we talked about it on externally, but we talked about it on the last podcast about knowing your the last podcast about knowing your the last podcast about knowing your audience and speaking to, you know, as audience and speaking to, you know, as audience and speaking to, you know, as you become senior, you need to know what you become senior, you need to know what you become senior, you need to know what you can say. I am learning more and more you can say. I am learning more and more you can say. I am learning more and more about that. I have said random stuff and about that. I have said random stuff and about that. I have said random stuff and and had articles like Microsoft VP says and had articles like Microsoft VP says and had articles like Microsoft VP says and I'm like really cuz I'm like I'm and I'm like really cuz I'm like I'm and I'm like really cuz I'm like I'm thinking random guy said one about 6 thinking random guy said one about 6 thinking random guy said one about 6 months ago. Yeah. Yeah. And the New York months ago. Yeah. Yeah. And the New York months ago. Yeah. Yeah. And the New York Times emailed me yesterday and I said no Times emailed me yesterday and I said no Times emailed me yesterday and I said no cuz I like they saw something I said on cuz I like they saw something I said on cuz I like they saw something I said on blue sky and I was blue sky and I was blue sky and I was like like you can use the blue sky thing like like you can use the blue sky thing like like you can use the blue sky thing but I don't need you to we don't need but I don't need you to we don't need but I don't need you to we don't need any more color.

any more color. any more color. Yeah. That must happen to you a lot. Do Yeah. That must happen to you a lot. Do Yeah. That must happen to you a lot. Do you have a press person that calls you you have a press person that calls you you have a press person that calls you and says stop talking? No. No, I think No, I don't. No, I think No, I don't. Um, you know, I actually was at the I Um, you know, I actually was at the I Um, you know, I actually was at the I gave a keynote at Rust Nation in UK last gave a keynote at Rust Nation in UK last gave a keynote at Rust Nation in UK last week. Yeah. Um, and I was invited to week. Yeah. Um, and I was invited to week. Yeah. Um, and I was invited to give it because uh I've developed I give it because uh I've developed I give it because uh I've developed I developed uh speaking of reputations a developed uh speaking of reputations a developed uh speaking of reputations a reputation in the Rust community because reputation in the Rust community because reputation in the Rust community because I've been voc outspoken. I've been voc outspoken. I've been voc outspoken. The first time that I spoke out about The first time that I spoke out about The first time that I spoke out about Rust in any meaningful way was on Rust in any meaningful way was on Rust in any meaningful way was on Twitter in 2022. Twitter in 2022. Twitter in 2022. Um what some survey had just come out Um what some survey had just come out Um what some survey had just come out about programming languages showed how about programming languages showed how about programming languages showed how Typescript had just jumped up in the Typescript had just jumped up in the Typescript had just jumped up in the rankings and I'd been just rankings and I'd been just rankings and I'd been just uh in the the previous week or two uh in the the previous week or two uh in the the previous week or two reviewing vulnerability trends and the reviewing vulnerability trends and the reviewing vulnerability trends and the fact that 70% of vulnerabilities that fact that 70% of vulnerabilities that fact that 70% of vulnerabilities that we've been seeing were memory safety we've been seeing were memory safety we've been seeing were memory safety problems and and I'd already kind of problems and and I'd already kind of problems and and I'd already kind of started to push Rust inside of Azure but started to push Rust inside of Azure but started to push Rust inside of Azure but then I'm like Rust is really ready now.

then I'm like Rust is really ready now. then I'm like Rust is really ready now. We why are we even doing any more CC++? We why are we even doing any more CC++? We why are we even doing any more CC++? We should just declare as an industry We should just declare as an industry We should just declare as an industry that it's it's a deprecated language and that it's it's a deprecated language and that it's it's a deprecated language and start the shift to memory safety. So start the shift to memory safety. So start the shift to memory safety. So yeah. Yeah. And then that's a thing yeah. Yeah. And then that's a thing yeah. Yeah. And then that's a thing where you know Microsoft Exec says this. where you know Microsoft Exec says this. where you know Microsoft Exec says this. I didn't get press clearance for it and I didn't get press clearance for it and I didn't get press clearance for it and I felt that it was a technical opinion I felt that it was a technical opinion I felt that it was a technical opinion but like who would that come from? Would but like who would that come from? Would but like who would that come from? Would Kevin Scott say that? Like who would Kevin Scott say that? Like who would Kevin Scott say that? Like who would Microsoft TFS and dees sit around and Microsoft TFS and dees sit around and Microsoft TFS and dees sit around and talk about whether we should say? I talk about whether we should say? I talk about whether we should say? I don't know if we would without deciding don't know if we would without deciding don't know if we would without deciding we should say it and then say, you know, we should say it and then say, you know, we should say it and then say, you know, having a campaign to say it in different having a campaign to say it in different having a campaign to say it in different places, but I just decided to say it cuz places, but I just decided to say it cuz places, but I just decided to say it cuz I felt strongly about it. And and um the I felt strongly about it. And and um the I felt strongly about it. And and um the next morning I got a team's call from next morning I got a team's call from next morning I got a team's call from Saka. It's like, do you really believe Saka. It's like, do you really believe Saka. It's like, do you really believe that? Do you are you convinced about that? Do you are you convinced about that? Do you are you convinced about that? And I'm like, I explained that I that? And I'm like, I explained that I that? And I'm like, I explained that I was and and the momentum that we had on was and and the momentum that we had on was and and the momentum that we had on Rust inside of Microsoft. And he's like, Rust inside of Microsoft. And he's like, Rust inside of Microsoft. And he's like, okay. Okay. Okay. So, it wasn't like you okay. Okay. Okay. So, it wasn't like you okay. Okay. Okay. So, it wasn't like you weren't in trouble cuz I got a team's weren't in trouble cuz I got a team's weren't in trouble cuz I got a team's call from him on a Sunday once. Yeah, I call from him on a Sunday once. Yeah, I call from him on a Sunday once. Yeah, I know. I got the same call from him, too.

know. I got the same call from him, too. know. I got the same call from him, too. Yeah. But that was different. Like Yeah. But that was different. Like Yeah. But that was different. Like there's like different technologies like there's like different technologies like there's like different technologies like if we if we like or dislike a if we if we like or dislike a if we if we like or dislike a competitive technology or a technology competitive technology or a technology competitive technology or a technology that someone's excited about and we're that someone's excited about and we're that someone's excited about and we're not excited about it. That's the part, not excited about it. That's the part, not excited about it. That's the part, you know, Microsoft of all the companies you know, Microsoft of all the companies you know, Microsoft of all the companies in tech, I'm just thinking about like in tech, I'm just thinking about like in tech, I'm just thinking about like all the fang and manga like Google and all the fang and manga like Google and all the fang and manga like Google and Apple and like they are very chill about Apple and like they are very chill about Apple and like they are very chill about us being on social media. We we were us being on social media. We we were us being on social media. We we were first in blogging and first in social. first in blogging and first in social. first in blogging and first in social. Like I couldn't tell you more than one Like I couldn't tell you more than one Like I couldn't tell you more than one or two Apple engineers that I see on on or two Apple engineers that I see on on or two Apple engineers that I see on on social media just yapping. It's amazing social media just yapping. It's amazing social media just yapping. It's amazing that we don't have more we don't get that we don't have more we don't get that we don't have more we don't get into more trouble saying stuff. into more trouble saying stuff. into more trouble saying stuff. I totally agree. Um and Microsoft's I totally agree. Um and Microsoft's I totally agree. Um and Microsoft's always been that way which I really always been that way which I really always been that way which I really appreciate about the culture. appreciate about the culture. appreciate about the culture. It would be very challenging. I I It would be very challenging. I I It would be very challenging. I I actually have had friends tell me that actually have had friends tell me that actually have had friends tell me that like, "Hey, I just got a job at at like, "Hey, I just got a job at at like, "Hey, I just got a job at at Google or Apple and they're telling me I Google or Apple and they're telling me I Google or Apple and they're telling me I need to stop on my blog or I can't run need to stop on my blog or I can't run need to stop on my blog or I can't run my YouTube anymore cuz it's not in line my YouTube anymore cuz it's not in line my YouTube anymore cuz it's not in line with their thing." I mean, part of it is with their thing." I mean, part of it is with their thing." I mean, part of it is too um trusting your employees to have too um trusting your employees to have too um trusting your employees to have that what we were talking about last that what we were talking about last that what we were talking about last podcast um we reported which was about podcast um we reported which was about podcast um we reported which was about um maturity in in what you can say. And um maturity in in what you can say. And um maturity in in what you can say. And by the way, I've had people on my team by the way, I've had people on my team by the way, I've had people on my team tweet things that I've gone to them and tweet things that I've gone to them and tweet things that I've gone to them and said this is not that's not social media said this is not that's not social media said this is not that's not social media is not the place to have that discussion is not the place to have that discussion is not the place to have that discussion or make the raise those points. There's or make the raise those points. There's or make the raise those points. There's other places to do it is you know in

other places to do it is you know in other places to do it is you know in Microsoft related activities not their Microsoft related activities not their Microsoft related activities not their personal activities. Yeah. Um, and I personal activities. Yeah. Um, and I personal activities. Yeah. Um, and I viewed it as lack of viewed it as lack of viewed it as lack of uh professional discretion to to voice uh professional discretion to to voice uh professional discretion to to voice their opinion in that forum when that's their opinion in that forum when that's their opinion in that forum when that's not the right place to do it. Yeah, we not the right place to do it. Yeah, we not the right place to do it. Yeah, we have a rule on my team that says you have a rule on my team that says you have a rule on my team that says you don't get to dunk on teams on other not don't get to dunk on teams on other not don't get to dunk on teams on other not teams the product but like other teams. teams the product but like other teams. teams the product but like other teams. So don't dunk on other teams. And the So don't dunk on other teams. And the So don't dunk on other teams. And the the rule is from me screwing up because the rule is from me screwing up because the rule is from me screwing up because years ago I complained about the years ago I complained about the years ago I complained about the printers on Windows 10 and I went to bed printers on Windows 10 and I went to bed printers on Windows 10 and I went to bed and I woke up with three different VPs and I woke up with three different VPs and I woke up with three different VPs that apparently all owned printers as a that apparently all owned printers as a that apparently all owned printers as a group uh and were mad at me all the group uh and were mad at me all the group uh and were mad at me all the time. But you know what I'm saying time. But you know what I'm saying time. But you know what I'm saying though? Like they were like they were though? Like they were like they were though? Like they were like they were mad and they wanted they wanted they mad and they wanted they wanted they mad and they wanted they wanted they wanted me to talk to HP and you know wanted me to talk to HP and you know wanted me to talk to HP and you know they wanted the driver dumps and we they wanted the driver dumps and we they wanted the driver dumps and we ended up fixing the bug. But that whole ended up fixing the bug. But that whole ended up fixing the bug. But that whole thing needed to not be on Twitter. I thing needed to not be on Twitter. I thing needed to not be on Twitter. I could have just asked internally. Yeah. could have just asked internally. Yeah. could have just asked internally. Yeah. By the way, printers are hor I mean, By the way, printers are hor I mean, By the way, printers are hor I mean, just horrible. I wasted as a concept.

just horrible. I wasted as a concept. just horrible. I wasted as a concept. You're not you're not dunking on You're not you're not dunking on You're not you're not dunking on printers right now. Like you're dunking printers right now. Like you're dunking printers right now. Like you're dunking on the product line. I'm dunking on the on the product line. I'm dunking on the on the product line. I'm dunking on the quality. Um and now one of the problems quality. Um and now one of the problems quality. Um and now one of the problems is we didn't have really a um universal is we didn't have really a um universal is we didn't have really a um universal printer driver for Windows. I remember printer driver for Windows. I remember printer driver for Windows. I remember that. Now we do. Um, so and all the that. Now we do. Um, so and all the that. Now we do. Um, so and all the printer manufacturers have been moving printer manufacturers have been moving printer manufacturers have been moving over to them, but without them just over to them, but without them just over to them, but without them just constant like every, you know, I haven't constant like every, you know, I haven't constant like every, you know, I haven't printed in like two weeks. I need to printed in like two weeks. I need to printed in like two weeks. I need to print some random thing for some stupid print some random thing for some stupid print some random thing for some stupid reason because some stupid agency reason because some stupid agency reason because some stupid agency requires it to be printed. Mhm. And so I requires it to be printed. Mhm. And so I requires it to be printed. Mhm. And so I go, you're doing email. go, you're doing email. go, you're doing email. Sorry, Yann is Yian is saying that this Sorry, Yann is Yian is saying that this Sorry, Yann is Yian is saying that this topic has no plan or any guidance or any topic has no plan or any guidance or any topic has no plan or any guidance or any like it has there's nothing here. So like it has there's nothing here. So like it has there's nothing here. So this is Scott and Mark learned to yap. this is Scott and Mark learned to yap. this is Scott and Mark learned to yap. I think we deserve an off week. It's I think we deserve an off week. It's I think we deserve an off week. It's okay. Yeah, it's fine. Printers sucking. okay. Yeah, it's fine. Printers sucking. okay. Yeah, it's fine. Printers sucking. Uh I my favorite printer is the I Uh I my favorite printer is the I Uh I my favorite printer is the I thought we were recording this. Oh, thought we were recording this. Oh, thought we were recording this. Oh, we're recording this whole thing. I we're recording this whole thing. I we're recording this whole thing. I thought it was going to be a show. This thought it was going to be a show. This thought it was going to be a show. This is a show. Oh, okay. It's Scott and Mark is a show. Oh, okay. It's Scott and Mark is a show. Oh, okay. It's Scott and Mark learned a gap. It has no actual plan.

learned a gap. It has no actual plan. learned a gap. It has no actual plan. So, not really an off week. Well, So, not really an off week. Well, So, not really an off week. Well, touche. Uh it's an off week and that it touche. Uh it's an off week and that it touche. Uh it's an off week and that it has no actual Let me finish my rant here has no actual Let me finish my rant here has no actual Let me finish my rant here because because because I haven't printed in two or three weeks. I haven't printed in two or three weeks. I haven't printed in two or three weeks. I go to print and I get the printer I go to print and I get the printer I go to print and I get the printer error dialogue box. Like what the hell? error dialogue box. Like what the hell? error dialogue box. Like what the hell? And then I try to double troubleshoot And then I try to double troubleshoot And then I try to double troubleshoot it. it. it. Nothing. Turn on and turn off the Nothing. Turn on and turn off the Nothing. Turn on and turn off the printer. Not like then uninstall and re printer. Not like then uninstall and re printer. Not like then uninstall and re you restart this fuller service all the you restart this fuller service all the you restart this fuller service all the things. And then finally like I need to things. And then finally like I need to things. And then finally like I need to go rein uninstall and reinstall the go rein uninstall and reinstall the go rein uninstall and reinstall the printer driver and then finally works printer driver and then finally works printer driver and then finally works again. again. again. Yeah, that is the greatest problem in Yeah, that is the greatest problem in Yeah, that is the greatest problem in computer computer computer science. science. science. Yeah, the pain. The pain is Yeah, the pain. The pain is Yeah, the pain. The pain is fresh. Well, why is that complicated? fresh. Well, why is that complicated? fresh. Well, why is that complicated? Because we solved blue screens in in Because we solved blue screens in in Because we solved blue screens in in video drivers. Like I said, we finally video drivers. Like I said, we finally video drivers. Like I said, we finally solved it. This printer I need, you solved it. This printer I need, you solved it. This printer I need, you know, if you go get a new printer now, know, if you go get a new printer now, know, if you go get a new printer now, the chances are it's going to have the the chances are it's going to have the the chances are it's going to have the universal printer driver support and universal printer driver support and universal printer driver support and Okay. So, universal printer driver, Okay. So, universal printer driver, Okay. So, universal printer driver, that's the thing. It's the AirPrint for that's the thing. It's the AirPrint for that's the thing. It's the AirPrint for Windows. It just works. Yeah, that's the Windows. It just works. Yeah, that's the Windows. It just works. Yeah, that's the win. That's the win. Yes, we're not win. That's the win. Yes, we're not win. That's the win. Yes, we're not we're going to get an email from the we're going to get an email from the we're going to get an email from the printer people, whoever they are. But um printer people, whoever they are. But um printer people, whoever they are. But um but here's the cool thing, too, is that but here's the cool thing, too, is that but here's the cool thing, too, is that I can be like, "Hey, printer people, you I can be like, "Hey, printer people, you I can be like, "Hey, printer people, you know, in the printing team in Windows know, in the printing team in Windows know, in the printing team in Windows ran into this problem." They're like, ran into this problem." They're like, ran into this problem." They're like, "We're on it." And then they're like, "We're on it." And then they're like, "We're on it." And then they're like, "That is true." So, I really that's one "That is true." So, I really that's one "That is true." So, I really that's one of the great things about being on the of the great things about being on the of the great things about being on the inside is the finding the person and and inside is the finding the person and and inside is the finding the person and and and fixing it. So, like, do you know

and fixing it. So, like, do you know and fixing it. So, like, do you know that we fixed Zoom on Windows 11? Yeah, that we fixed Zoom on Windows 11? Yeah, that we fixed Zoom on Windows 11? Yeah, I know you've told I think you've told I know you've told I think you've told I know you've told I think you've told me like five times. This is the sixth. me like five times. This is the sixth. me like five times. This is the sixth. There was a there was an Apple issue There was a there was an Apple issue There was a there was an Apple issue with the Zoom. We fixed it for Guardians with the Zoom. We fixed it for Guardians with the Zoom. We fixed it for Guardians of of of Galaxy from And you're like, I need to Galaxy from And you're like, I need to Galaxy from And you're like, I need to get this to work again. Why are you such get this to work again. Why are you such get this to work again. Why are you such a hater, man? I'm not. I I said that a hater, man? I'm not. I I said that a hater, man? I'm not. I I said that with utmost respect. with utmost respect. with utmost respect. That's a lie. Because my next thing I need to fix lie. Because my next thing I need to fix is the Microsoft BAM because we're on YouTube. I feel BAM because we're on YouTube. I feel like this is the um we need to change like this is the um we need to change like this is the um we need to change our thumbnails. Uh Rob podcast producer our thumbnails. Uh Rob podcast producer our thumbnails. Uh Rob podcast producer because there's not enough thumbnails of because there's not enough thumbnails of because there's not enough thumbnails of me holding up Zooms. You did that for me holding up Zooms. You did that for me holding up Zooms. You did that for Guardians of the Galaxy, right? Yeah. Guardians of the Galaxy, right? Yeah. Guardians of the Galaxy, right? Yeah. Guardians of Galaxy 3. I got to work Guardians of Galaxy 3. I got to work Guardians of Galaxy 3. I got to work with Marvel to uh to load the zooms up with Marvel to uh to load the zooms up with Marvel to uh to load the zooms up so that when Star-Lord, there's like a so that when Star-Lord, there's like a so that when Star-Lord, there's like a shot over his shoulder and he's got like shot over his shoulder and he's got like shot over his shoulder and he's got like the Michael Jackson, you know, EP. So the Michael Jackson, you know, EP. So the Michael Jackson, you know, EP. So I'm like, "Okay, we'll do that." So I I'm like, "Okay, we'll do that." So I I'm like, "Okay, we'll do that." So I plugged it in. I couldn't get it to work plugged it in. I couldn't get it to work plugged it in. I couldn't get it to work because we had had a regression in how because we had had a regression in how because we had had a regression in how printer and and how pro USB devices alle printer and and how pro USB devices alle printer and and how pro USB devices alle for the INF file got uh got set. So we for the INF file got uh got set. So we for the INF file got uh got set. So we fixed that and that's rolled out and you fixed that and that's rolled out and you fixed that and that's rolled out and you should just plug your zoom in. It should should just plug your zoom in. It should should just plug your zoom in. It should just work. But um at the time all just work. But um at the time all just work. But um at the time all blocky. What's that? Your video quality blocky. What's that? Your video quality blocky. What's that? Your video quality is blocky. My video quality won't be is blocky. My video quality won't be is blocky. My video quality won't be blocky uh when this thing gets produced blocky uh when this thing gets produced blocky uh when this thing gets produced because it's being loaded uh locally.

because it's being loaded uh locally. because it's being loaded uh locally. This is probably because of you. It's This is probably because of you. It's This is probably because of you. It's probably your fault. Where are you? Is probably your fault. Where are you? Is probably your fault. Where are you? Is this a new room? Yeah, I'm in Arizona. this a new room? Yeah, I'm in Arizona. this a new room? Yeah, I'm in Arizona. Oh, you're in Arizona. Probably on Oh, you're in Arizona. Probably on Oh, you're in Arizona. Probably on Wi-Fi. Mhm. Yeah. So, it's your fault. Wi-Fi. Mhm. Yeah. So, it's your fault. Wi-Fi. Mhm. Yeah. So, it's your fault. All right. Yeah. So, here's some blocky All right. Yeah. So, here's some blocky All right. Yeah. So, here's some blocky zones for I'll clean the screen. What zones for I'll clean the screen. What zones for I'll clean the screen. What did your shirt say? You University of did your shirt say? You University of did your shirt say? You University of Chicago. Oh. Chicago. Oh. Chicago. Oh. My son wanted to go there. We got the My son wanted to go there. We got the My son wanted to go there. We got the free shirt, but he didn't get in. Now that makes it sound like I'm wearing Now that makes it sound like I'm wearing the shirt to call him on and he feels the shirt to call him on and he feels the shirt to call him on and he feels bad because he said another feel bad for bad because he said another feel bad for bad because he said another feel bad for not getting in. No, it just it's very not getting in. No, it just it's very not getting in. No, it just it's very comfy. comfy. comfy. All right, we have to go. Uh, we don't All right, we have to go. Uh, we don't All right, we have to go. Uh, we don't know what this one's called yet. What is know what this one's called yet. What is know what this one's called yet. What is this called? Mark and Scott learn to this called? Mark and Scott learn to this called? Mark and Scott learn to rent. I don't What were um Well, we were rent. I don't What were um Well, we were rent. I don't What were um Well, we were we were managing up. There was a we were managing up. There was a we were managing up. There was a managing up thing there. But like managing up thing there. But like managing up thing there. But like there's professionalism. There's social there's professionalism. There's social there's professionalism. There's social media. This learn to print. Learn to print. Learn to print. I should do learn to print.

print. I should do learn to print. print. I should do learn to print. Actually, learn to fr title for this. Do Actually, learn to fr title for this. Do Actually, learn to fr title for this. Do you remember? I don't know. Uh, you you remember? I don't know. Uh, you you remember? I don't know. Uh, you probably do remember cuz you're probably do remember cuz you're probably do remember cuz you're incredibly old. Um, you remember when incredibly old. Um, you remember when incredibly old. Um, you remember when you would get a printer? Yeah, I know. you would get a printer? Yeah, I know. you would get a printer? Yeah, I know. Wow. Wow. Wow. So, here's how old I am. Do you remember So, here's how old I am. Do you remember So, here's how old I am. Do you remember buying a printer? And this is where I buying a printer? And this is where I buying a printer? And this is where I can't remember like what day it is or can't remember like what day it is or can't remember like what day it is or what my to-do list is, but now I'm going what my to-do list is, but now I'm going what my to-do list is, but now I'm going into the archives. Remember when you into the archives. Remember when you into the archives. Remember when you would buy an Epson FX80 printer and they would buy an Epson FX80 printer and they would buy an Epson FX80 printer and they would give you a manual of all the would give you a manual of all the would give you a manual of all the control codes and you would open up control codes and you would open up control codes and you would open up paperclip or whatever and you would paperclip or whatever and you would paperclip or whatever and you would enter in here's the control code to to enter in here's the control code to to enter in here's the control code to to turn on bold and turn off bold. So your turn on bold and turn off bold. So your turn on bold and turn off bold. So your printer driver was you typing control printer driver was you typing control printer driver was you typing control codes manually for three pages. If the codes manually for three pages. If the codes manually for three pages. If the printer didn't work, it was your fault. printer didn't work, it was your fault. printer didn't work, it was your fault. old enough to like my first article old enough to like my first article old enough to like my first article published in a computer magazine was how published in a computer magazine was how published in a computer magazine was how to dump your Apple 2 high-res screen to dump your Apple 2 high-res screen to dump your Apple 2 high-res screen image onto an Epson matrix printer. image onto an Epson matrix printer. image onto an Epson matrix printer. Oh my god, I can hear it going like so good. Yeah, those were the days, like so good. Yeah, those were the days, man. They were. You wrote your own man. They were. You wrote your own man. They were. You wrote your own printer drivers using assembling printer drivers using assembling printer drivers using assembling language. Ah, [Music] [Music] Can you just walk off? I had to put my Can you just walk off? I had to put my Can you just walk off? I had to put my zooms back.