Digital archaeology reading 40 year old C64 Floppy Disks with a Greaseweazle, Fluxengine, and Aaru

hey friends I'm Scott Hanselman and hey friends I'm Scott Hanselman and digital Archaeology is becoming a really digital Archaeology is becoming a really digital Archaeology is becoming a really really popular thing in the Retro space really popular thing in the Retro space really popular thing in the Retro space uh basically people have lots of really uh basically people have lots of really uh basically people have lots of really old stuff for example here I've actually old stuff for example here I've actually old stuff for example here I've actually got a whole series of 40-year-old floppy got a whole series of 40-year-old floppy got a whole series of 40-year-old floppy discs these are really really old these discs these are really really old these discs these are really really old these were found in a garage and getting were found in a garage and getting were found in a garage and getting information off of these discs is really information off of these discs is really information off of these discs is really really challenging and there's a couple really challenging and there's a couple really challenging and there's a couple of reasons why first you've got the fact of reasons why first you've got the fact of reasons why first you've got the fact that these that these that these discs are floppy they're old okay they discs are floppy they're old okay they discs are floppy they're old okay they can get mildew they can rot uh you can can get mildew they can rot uh you can can get mildew they can rot uh you can get magnetic interference with these get magnetic interference with these get magnetic interference with these discs where a magnet came near them uh discs where a magnet came near them uh discs where a magnet came near them uh they can get old really quickly but it's they can get old really quickly but it's they can get old really quickly but it's super fun and interesting if you can get super fun and interesting if you can get super fun and interesting if you can get the data off of these and there's a the data off of these and there's a the data off of these and there's a couple of different ways to do it the couple of different ways to do it the couple of different ways to do it the main ways are find an old machine but main ways are find an old machine but main ways are find an old machine but then if you get it onto that old machine then if you get it onto that old machine then if you get it onto that old machine like if you have a comer 64 or an IBM PC like if you have a comer 64 or an IBM PC like if you have a comer 64 or an IBM PC and you take the information off onto and you take the information off onto and you take the information off onto that machine how do you get it from that that machine how do you get it from that that machine how do you get it from that machine elsewhere you usually need a machine elsewhere you usually need a machine elsewhere you usually need a bridge of some kind so if I got data bridge of some kind so if I got data bridge of some kind so if I got data onto a comer 64 a physical one a real onto a comer 64 a physical one a real onto a comer 64 a physical one a real old computer I can't necessarily get it old computer I can't necessarily get it old computer I can't necessarily get it on the network or I dial into a BBS so on the network or I dial into a BBS so on the network or I dial into a BBS so then you need a bridge technology uh one then you need a bridge technology uh one then you need a bridge technology uh one of the good Bridge Technologies would be of the good Bridge Technologies would be of the good Bridge Technologies would be like an SD card so like a small portable like an SD card so like a small portable like an SD card so like a small portable SD card because there are adapters to SD card because there are adapters to SD card because there are adapters to get from here into a real machine and get from here into a real machine and get from here into a real machine and into this uh you could also uh consider into this uh you could also uh consider into this uh you could also uh consider things like CF or compact things like CF or compact things like CF or compact flashcards but there is a new somewhat

flashcards but there is a new somewhat flashcards but there is a new somewhat new uh device called a grease weasel and new uh device called a grease weasel and new uh device called a grease weasel and the grease weasel is a really really the grease weasel is a really really the grease weasel is a really really cool device that I've actually picked up cool device that I've actually picked up cool device that I've actually picked up a version of it is Open Source a version of it is Open Source a version of it is Open Source Hardware and what it is is a device that Hardware and what it is is a device that Hardware and what it is is a device that Bridges Bridges Bridges USBC and these older floppy discs and it USBC and these older floppy discs and it USBC and these older floppy discs and it reads the magnetic flux the flux off of reads the magnetic flux the flux off of reads the magnetic flux the flux off of these discs and allows me to connect these discs and allows me to connect these discs and allows me to connect them this drive right here is a very old them this drive right here is a very old them this drive right here is a very old drive that I got on eBay for about 30 drive that I got on eBay for about 30 drive that I got on eBay for about 30 bucks and this drive is an bucks and this drive is an bucks and this drive is an old um what do you call this this is an old um what do you call this this is an old um what do you call this this is an old uh I think it's a Fujitsu old uh I think it's a Fujitsu old uh I think it's a Fujitsu drive and I 3D printed a case to put drive and I 3D printed a case to put drive and I 3D printed a case to put around it because it was a loose drive around it because it was a loose drive around it because it was a loose drive and this old Fujitsu is actually an old and this old Fujitsu is actually an old and this old Fujitsu is actually an old IBM PC drive this will read about 300 IBM PC drive this will read about 300 IBM PC drive this will read about 300 60k now these different discs like this 60k now these different discs like this 60k now these different discs like this came in multiple formats there this one came in multiple formats there this one came in multiple formats there this one is a single-sided single density disc of is a single-sided single density disc of is a single-sided single density disc of I think it's about I think it's about I think it's about 120 or 160k you had 120 or 160k you had 120 or 160k you had double-sided double density and then you double-sided double density and then you double-sided double density and then you had double-sided single density so you had double-sided single density so you had double-sided single density so you had a lot of different discs uh and had a lot of different discs uh and had a lot of different discs uh and different uh sides plus you had how many different uh sides plus you had how many different uh sides plus you had how many tracks the disc had whether it had 35 tracks the disc had whether it had 35 tracks the disc had whether it had 35 tracks or 40 tracks and then on top of tracks or 40 tracks and then on top of tracks or 40 tracks and then on top of that that the information being stored that that the information being stored that that the information being stored in that magnetic flux around that dis uh in that magnetic flux around that dis uh in that magnetic flux around that dis uh then uh is in a different file system

then uh is in a different file system then uh is in a different file system you might have a fat file system or an you might have a fat file system or an you might have a fat file system or an Amiga file system or a comer 64 file Amiga file system or a comer 64 file Amiga file system or a comer 64 file system a lot of these things get system a lot of these things get system a lot of these things get complicated very very quickly so what's complicated very very quickly so what's complicated very very quickly so what's cool about this gree weasel device here cool about this gree weasel device here cool about this gree weasel device here this little device which is again open- this little device which is again open- this little device which is again open- Source uh hardware and software is the Source uh hardware and software is the Source uh hardware and software is the grease weasel uh doesn't care about file grease weasel uh doesn't care about file grease weasel uh doesn't care about file systems basically it's allowing you to systems basically it's allowing you to systems basically it's allowing you to capture the raw information that raw capture the raw information that raw capture the raw information that raw information and pull it off grease information and pull it off grease information and pull it off grease weasel is one tool flux engine is weasel is one tool flux engine is weasel is one tool flux engine is another and then another one that's also another and then another one that's also another and then another one that's also pretty great is called aru each of these pretty great is called aru each of these pretty great is called aru each of these are basically digital Suite preservation are basically digital Suite preservation are basically digital Suite preservation digital preservation Suites I think is digital preservation Suites I think is digital preservation Suites I think is what aru calls what aru calls what aru calls itself okay data preservation Suite okay itself okay data preservation Suite okay itself okay data preservation Suite okay so I can pull the data off of these so I can pull the data off of these so I can pull the data off of these drives and preserve this information now drives and preserve this information now drives and preserve this information now in the old days you'd plug something in the old days you'd plug something in the old days you'd plug something like this into your PC and you'd get an like this into your PC and you'd get an like this into your PC and you'd get an A drive or a B drive but that makes a A drive or a B drive but that makes a A drive or a B drive but that makes a lot of assumptions about device drivers lot of assumptions about device drivers lot of assumptions about device drivers about file systems and about the ability about file systems and about the ability about file systems and about the ability for this drive to get uh to get power for this drive to get uh to get power for this drive to get uh to get power now this drive here is an old 5 and a qu now this drive here is an old 5 and a qu now this drive here is an old 5 and a qu in floppy drive on an IBM PC and that's in floppy drive on an IBM PC and that's in floppy drive on an IBM PC and that's not something I can plug into a modern not something I can plug into a modern not something I can plug into a modern PC right now PC right now PC right now so you can't so you can't so you can't just plug in an adapter and have it show just plug in an adapter and have it show just plug in an adapter and have it show up because this isn't something that can

up because this isn't something that can up because this isn't something that can get power off of 5 volts in fact this is get power off of 5 volts in fact this is get power off of 5 volts in fact this is a a a 12vt disc drive and these this will give 12vt disc drive and these this will give 12vt disc drive and these this will give you 5 volts so in the case of the uh the you 5 volts so in the case of the uh the you 5 volts so in the case of the uh the this floppy Drive I had to go and get this floppy Drive I had to go and get this floppy Drive I had to go and get another adapter on Alibaba or AliExpress another adapter on Alibaba or AliExpress another adapter on Alibaba or AliExpress rather that is a Molex or a 12vt Molex rather that is a Molex or a 12vt Molex rather that is a Molex or a 12vt Molex connector and that 12vt Molex connector connector and that 12vt Molex connector connector and that 12vt Molex connector is going to power this this is going to power this this is going to power this this drive plus when you have something like drive plus when you have something like drive plus when you have something like a grease weasel which is this USBC to a grease weasel which is this USBC to a grease weasel which is this USBC to Floppy adapter you have to think about Floppy adapter you have to think about Floppy adapter you have to think about are you plugging in an edge connector are you plugging in an edge connector are you plugging in an edge connector like this plugging in a multi-pin like this plugging in a multi-pin like this plugging in a multi-pin connector like that and this twist this connector like that and this twist this connector like that and this twist this twist here indicates whether or not it's twist here indicates whether or not it's twist here indicates whether or not it's Drive zero or drive one or the primary Drive zero or drive one or the primary Drive zero or drive one or the primary of the secondary so there's a lot of of the secondary so there's a lot of of the secondary so there's a lot of things to consider when you're pulling things to consider when you're pulling things to consider when you're pulling data off of one of these discs Plus when data off of one of these discs Plus when data off of one of these discs Plus when you plug in a device like this in this you plug in a device like this in this you plug in a device like this in this case open source uh hardware and open case open source uh hardware and open case open source uh hardware and open source uh software what is the uh the source uh software what is the uh the source uh software what is the uh the device driver right does the person who device driver right does the person who device driver right does the person who writes this grease weasel software have writes this grease weasel software have writes this grease weasel software have to go and make a device driver the to go and make a device driver the to go and make a device driver the easiest thing for folks to do is to do a easiest thing for folks to do is to do a easiest thing for folks to do is to do a comport driver okay so let's go ahead comport driver okay so let's go ahead comport driver okay so let's go ahead and bring up our our Windows machine and bring up our our Windows machine and bring up our our Windows machine here and we're going to go and look at here and we're going to go and look at here and we're going to go and look at uh device manager and if I look at uh device manager and if I look at uh device manager and if I look at device device manager you can see that device device manager you can see that device device manager you can see that there's no comp ports there's no there's no comp ports there's no there's no comp ports there's no communication ports here on my device communication ports here on my device communication ports here on my device because a comp Port is an old thing

because a comp Port is an old thing because a comp Port is an old thing however comports are really easy to however comports are really easy to however comports are really easy to program to so folks would program to program to so folks would program to program to so folks would program to them uh and it's a nice lowest common them uh and it's a nice lowest common them uh and it's a nice lowest common denominator so let's plug in the grease denominator so let's plug in the grease denominator so let's plug in the grease weasel weasel weasel device into the PC and then see what it device into the PC and then see what it device into the PC and then see what it presents itself as presents itself as presents itself as we can see here it immediately shows up we can see here it immediately shows up we can see here it immediately shows up as a USB serial device com 3 okay so as a USB serial device com 3 okay so as a USB serial device com 3 okay so what we've got here is a device a device what we've got here is a device a device what we've got here is a device a device that is meant to connect to Old floppy that is meant to connect to Old floppy that is meant to connect to Old floppy drive so I can get games off of Old drive so I can get games off of Old drive so I can get games off of Old floppies except it doesn't show up as a floppies except it doesn't show up as a floppies except it doesn't show up as a drive it shows up as a serial Port it's drive it shows up as a serial Port it's drive it shows up as a serial Port it's showing up as Comm 3 so how am I going showing up as Comm 3 so how am I going showing up as Comm 3 so how am I going to get my games off my dis if I can't to get my games off my dis if I can't to get my games off my dis if I can't mount my disc if I can't open up Windows mount my disc if I can't open up Windows mount my disc if I can't open up Windows Explorer and get to my disc but what we Explorer and get to my disc but what we Explorer and get to my disc but what we want to do is I want to pull the want to do is I want to pull the want to do is I want to pull the magnetic flux signals directly off of magnetic flux signals directly off of magnetic flux signals directly off of this drive here we want to pull the flux this drive here we want to pull the flux this drive here we want to pull the flux signals off of the signals off of the signals off of the drive then convert those flux signals drive then convert those flux signals drive then convert those flux signals into binary determining what's a one into binary determining what's a one into binary determining what's a one what's a zero whether it's 8 Bits or what's a zero whether it's 8 Bits or what's a zero whether it's 8 Bits or seven bits put that into a disc image seven bits put that into a disc image seven bits put that into a disc image and then I can play my then I can play and then I can play my then I can play and then I can play my then I can play my game which should be really hot okay my game which should be really hot okay my game which should be really hot okay so I've got that you can see it lit up so I've got that you can see it lit up so I've got that you can see it lit up so the grease wile's PL plugged into our so the grease wile's PL plugged into our so the grease wile's PL plugged into our machine we can see that it is showing up machine we can see that it is showing up machine we can see that it is showing up as Comm Port 3 so

as Comm Port 3 so as Comm Port 3 so now we'll take our device here we can now we'll take our device here we can now we'll take our device here we can see we have an edge connector an edge see we have an edge connector an edge see we have an edge connector an edge connector so I can't plug in this 40 pin connector so I can't plug in this 40 pin connector so I can't plug in this 40 pin because this is not a 3 and 1/2 inch because this is not a 3 and 1/2 inch because this is not a 3 and 1/2 inch floppy instead I'm going to plug in this floppy instead I'm going to plug in this floppy instead I'm going to plug in this one okay and when I plug it in nothing's one okay and when I plug it in nothing's one okay and when I plug it in nothing's going to happen right nothing nothing's going to happen right nothing nothing's going to happen right nothing nothing's going to happen because it's not a disc going to happen because it's not a disc going to happen because it's not a disc drive in this context oop it's spinning drive in this context oop it's spinning drive in this context oop it's spinning it spun there for a second so it just it spun there for a second so it just it spun there for a second so it just got a signal I don't know if you heard got a signal I don't know if you heard got a signal I don't know if you heard that but it actually that but it actually that but it actually just so right now the old old floppy The just so right now the old old floppy The just so right now the old old floppy The 40-Year-Old floppy Drive is plugged into 40-Year-Old floppy Drive is plugged into 40-Year-Old floppy Drive is plugged into the grease weasel but it's showing up as the grease weasel but it's showing up as the grease weasel but it's showing up as a comp Port so I'm going to put that a comp Port so I'm going to put that a comp Port so I'm going to put that down on the table here and I'll show you down on the table here and I'll show you down on the table here and I'll show you what that looks what that looks what that looks like there we go so here's the device like there we go so here's the device like there we go so here's the device here's the adapter here's the floppy here's the adapter here's the floppy here's the adapter here's the floppy Drive okay and let's take a a disc with Drive okay and let's take a a disc with Drive okay and let's take a a disc with some games on it this disc here is from some games on it this disc here is from some games on it this disc here is from I think 1981 or 1982 and it's got a I think 1981 or 1982 and it's got a I think 1981 or 1982 and it's got a bunch of stuff on it says public bunch of stuff on it says public bunch of stuff on it says public domain 64 okay oops looks like I didn't domain 64 okay oops looks like I didn't domain 64 okay oops looks like I didn't realize this I'm trying to stream both realize this I'm trying to stream both realize this I'm trying to stream both on YouTube and on Tik Tok at the same on YouTube and on Tik Tok at the same on YouTube and on Tik Tok at the same time so I'm going to flip this upside time so I'm going to flip this upside time so I'm going to flip this upside down there you go so far our friends down there you go so far our friends down there you go so far our friends here on Tik Tok they can see that drive here on Tik Tok they can see that drive here on Tik Tok they can see that drive that disc at the same time okay so I put that disc at the same time okay so I put that disc at the same time okay so I put that floppy that floppy that floppy into the old drive here into the old drive here into the old drive here okay and then we're going to come over okay and then we're going to come over okay and then we're going to come over to our Windows machine here our DOS

to our Windows machine here our DOS to our Windows machine here our DOS prompt and we can run that get that uh prompt and we can run that get that uh prompt and we can run that get that uh that application grease weasel grease that application grease weasel grease that application grease weasel grease weasel is a command line application so weasel is a command line application so weasel is a command line application so I could run it like this and I can ask I could run it like this and I can ask I could run it like this and I can ask questions like can I read this drive can questions like can I read this drive can questions like can I read this drive can I write this drive can I convert between I write this drive can I convert between I write this drive can I convert between different formats but what we'll do to different formats but what we'll do to different formats but what we'll do to start with is we're just going to say start with is we're just going to say start with is we're just going to say info okay we're going to say hey gree info okay we're going to say hey gree info okay we're going to say hey gree weasel tell me about what's going on weasel tell me about what's going on weasel tell me about what's going on here all right so let's go and say GW here all right so let's go and say GW here all right so let's go and say GW info okay so we can see that we've got a info okay so we can see that we've got a info okay so we can see that we've got a driver on comport 3 we got a system on driver on comport 3 we got a system on driver on comport 3 we got a system on comport 3 we can see the firmware and comport 3 we can see the firmware and comport 3 we can see the firmware and the serial number and then we're on Full the serial number and then we're on Full the serial number and then we're on Full Speed so we're in a good place here Speed so we're in a good place here Speed so we're in a good place here where we might be able to get a game off where we might be able to get a game off where we might be able to get a game off of these floppy of these floppy of these floppy discs and then theoretically play discs and then theoretically play discs and then theoretically play it however I need to know about that it however I need to know about that it however I need to know about that this this drive I need to decide what's this this drive I need to decide what's this this drive I need to decide what's going on here so what I've done ahead of going on here so what I've done ahead of going on here so what I've done ahead of time just to make this a little easier time just to make this a little easier time just to make this a little easier is I've read I've pre-done a is I've read I've pre-done a is I've read I've pre-done a um a command because I want to save time um a command because I want to save time um a command because I want to save time and I don't want you to be be bored my and I don't want you to be be bored my and I don't want you to be be bored my friends let's try this we're going to friends let's try this we're going to friends let's try this we're going to say read say read say read from Drive B which isn't a real drive from Drive B which isn't a real drive from Drive B which isn't a real drive it's a we know it's a commodor and we're it's a we know it's a commodor and we're it's a we know it's a commodor and we're going to put it into a file called going to put it into a file called going to put it into a file called whatever image one I think I've done whatever image one I think I've done whatever image one I think I've done this a lot of times I'm going to say

this a lot of times I'm going to say this a lot of times I'm going to say image 14 and we'll see if this works now image 14 and we'll see if this works now image 14 and we'll see if this works now when I said it's not really Drive B when I said it's not really Drive B when I said it's not really Drive B that's important because remember I that's important because remember I that's important because remember I mentioned that twist that twist that mentioned that twist that twist that mentioned that twist that twist that we've got on the wire here this twist we've got on the wire here this twist we've got on the wire here this twist determines our different determines our different determines our different drives whether it's Drive zero Drive one drives whether it's Drive zero Drive one drives whether it's Drive zero Drive one now this might not work the first try so now this might not work the first try so now this might not work the first try so we're going to have to maybe do this a we're going to have to maybe do this a we're going to have to maybe do this a couple of times and see if it works but couple of times and see if it works but couple of times and see if it works but if it works we should be able to play a if it works we should be able to play a if it works we should be able to play a game so here it says game so here it says game so here it says reading and then it says no index so reading and then it says no index so reading and then it says no index so nothing spun up I didn't hear anything nothing spun up I didn't hear anything nothing spun up I didn't hear anything happen so I may be doing something wrong happen so I may be doing something wrong happen so I may be doing something wrong we can try some different commands we can try some different commands we can try some different commands because that drive might not be getting because that drive might not be getting because that drive might not be getting to talk to I might need to say drive a to talk to I might need to say drive a to talk to I might need to say drive a or drive b or drive 1 or drive two this or drive b or drive 1 or drive two this or drive b or drive 1 or drive two this is one of those read the manual type of is one of those read the manual type of is one of those read the manual type of situations now grease weasel is an situations now grease weasel is an situations now grease weasel is an application that you can run from the application that you can run from the application that you can run from the command line and I've actually got command line and I've actually got command line and I've actually got history here on my system where I can history here on my system where I can history here on my system where I can see all the different times that I've see all the different times that I've see all the different times that I've run it so you can see all my different run it so you can see all my different run it so you can see all my different attempts at running this sometimes have attempts at running this sometimes have attempts at running this sometimes have worked sometimes haven't worked sometimes haven't worked sometimes haven't worked you can see I'm not hearing worked you can see I'm not hearing worked you can see I'm not hearing anything come up I'm not seeing that anything come up I'm not seeing that anything come up I'm not seeing that this application is necessarily working this application is necessarily working this application is necessarily working so doing stuff from the command line can so doing stuff from the command line can so doing stuff from the command line can be really challenging there's actually a be really challenging there's actually a be really challenging there's actually a grease weasel grease weasel grease weasel gooey a graphical user interface that gooey a graphical user interface that gooey a graphical user interface that will pull that information uh as will pull that information uh as will pull that information uh as well so we can try that and all that's

well so we can try that and all that's well so we can try that and all that's going to do is make things easier so going to do is make things easier so going to do is make things easier so when I run that it's going to pop when I run that it's going to pop when I run that it's going to pop up and let's see where it is it may have up and let's see where it is it may have up and let's see where it is it may have popped up on another screen there it is popped up on another screen there it is popped up on another screen there it is so so so here that grease weasel goey I can say here that grease weasel goey I can say here that grease weasel goey I can say read from disk and what this is actually read from disk and what this is actually read from disk and what this is actually going to do is it's going to uh create going to do is it's going to uh create going to do is it's going to uh create the command line for me okay so I can go the command line for me okay so I can go the command line for me okay so I can go and say and say and say uh this is file name my disk we're going uh this is file name my disk we're going uh this is file name my disk we're going to make an to make an to make an IMG um and we'll select a folder we'll IMG um and we'll select a folder we'll IMG um and we'll select a folder we'll put it on the desktop you can see it's put it on the desktop you can see it's put it on the desktop you can see it's already writing out that command line already writing out that command line already writing out that command line okay so it's writing out that command okay so it's writing out that command okay so it's writing out that command line and line and line and and drive select so you can see right and drive select so you can see right and drive select so you can see right there when I hit Drive select in the there when I hit Drive select in the there when I hit Drive select in the guey it's writing that command line guey it's writing that command line guey it's writing that command line someone in the chat just suggested drive someone in the chat just suggested drive someone in the chat just suggested drive a I can't remember when I did this last a I can't remember when I did this last a I can't remember when I did this last time when it worked or not I did uh a time when it worked or not I did uh a time when it worked or not I did uh a little bit back and forth to figure out little bit back and forth to figure out little bit back and forth to figure out the exact command to go and do this work the exact command to go and do this work the exact command to go and do this work so that's kind of fun so I'm going to go so that's kind of fun so I'm going to go so that's kind of fun so I'm going to go and back up a little bit because because and back up a little bit because because and back up a little bit because because this is one of the things when you're this is one of the things when you're this is one of the things when you're doing this work is you're trying five or doing this work is you're trying five or doing this work is you're trying five or 10 different options to try to get them 10 different options to try to get them 10 different options to try to get them to work because every Drive is going to to work because every Drive is going to to work because every Drive is going to be different now there is another tool be different now there is another tool be different now there is another tool that I can try using which is called that I can try using which is called that I can try using which is called flux engine and flux engine is uh a

flux engine and flux engine is uh a flux engine and flux engine is uh a that will uh read off of that grease that will uh read off of that grease that will uh read off of that grease weasel device that physical device that weasel device that physical device that weasel device that physical device that we've got right now this is this device we've got right now this is this device we've got right now this is this device right here and I can put in commands right here and I can put in commands right here and I can put in commands like well this is a comer 40 track like well this is a comer 40 track like well this is a comer 40 track variant disc or this is a high disc or variant disc or this is a high disc or variant disc or this is a high disc or not a high density disc and you see not a high density disc and you see not a high density disc and you see right here in the corner let's zoom zoom right here in the corner let's zoom zoom right here in the corner let's zoom zoom zoom in on that we've got Drive zero and zoom in on that we've got Drive zero and zoom in on that we've got Drive zero and drive one so I can say I want to read drive one so I can say I want to read drive one so I can say I want to read from Drive zero drive 1 let's see if we from Drive zero drive 1 let's see if we from Drive zero drive 1 let's see if we can do it with flux engine it's going to can do it with flux engine it's going to can do it with flux engine it's going to be the same general be the same general be the same general idea okay so here it says the device idea okay so here it says the device idea okay so here it says the device does not recognize the command I saw does not recognize the command I saw does not recognize the command I saw this a lot when I was doing this work this a lot when I was doing this work this a lot when I was doing this work early on and I would basically just early on and I would basically just early on and I would basically just literally plug it in and plug it on uh literally plug it in and plug it on uh literally plug it in and plug it on uh unplug it and plug it back in again unplug it and plug it back in again unplug it and plug it back in again which sounds annoying but it is a big which sounds annoying but it is a big which sounds annoying but it is a big part of Serial ports on uh on Windows part of Serial ports on uh on Windows part of Serial ports on uh on Windows there we go let's plug back in there we go let's plug back in there we go let's plug back in again let's go ahead and get this trying again so it's saying device does not again so it's saying device does not recognize command okay I'm resetting it I'm going command okay I'm resetting it I'm going to try this a couple of times and this to try this a couple of times and this to try this a couple of times and this is just part of is just part of is just part of computers okay I know it's on com 3 and computers okay I know it's on com 3 and computers okay I know it's on com 3 and we know it's working we know it's we know it's working we know it's we know it's working we know it's working in the sense of we did that that working in the sense of we did that that working in the sense of we did that that info command before right when we info command before right when we info command before right when we said

gw. exe info we can see that we can are gw. exe info we can see that we can are talking to the device Okay so we've got talking to the device Okay so we've got talking to the device Okay so we've got to go and see can we get Beyond this and to go and see can we get Beyond this and to go and see can we get Beyond this and talk to the actual dis and the way I'll talk to the actual dis and the way I'll talk to the actual dis and the way I'll know know know is I'll know when it starts spinning is I'll know when it starts spinning is I'll know when it starts spinning I'll know when I hear the drive this I'll know when I hear the drive this I'll know when I hear the drive this drive right here make a sound drive right here make a sound drive right here make a sound okay so I'm not hearing anything and I okay so I'm not hearing anything and I okay so I'm not hearing anything and I remember there was an issue with this remember there was an issue with this remember there was an issue with this this Command right here get flux status and this is like the most common status and this is like the most common thing that can go wrong here and if I remember tried A and B one and two remember tried A and B one and two remind the 12 volt power what I'm going remind the 12 volt power what I'm going remind the 12 volt power what I'm going to do is going to double check that our to do is going to double check that our to do is going to double check that our device is plugged in and make sure that device is plugged in and make sure that device is plugged in and make sure that our power is is our power is is our power is is hot oh you guys okay this is awesome hot oh you guys okay this is awesome hot oh you guys okay this is awesome this is great this is why we do these this is great this is why we do these this is great this is why we do these things live because we learn right so things live because we learn right so things live because we learn right so check this out check this out check this out friends what do you think happened friends what do you think happened friends what do you think happened here what do you think happened here what do you think happened here what do you think happened here it got unplugged when I was messing here it got unplugged when I was messing here it got unplugged when I was messing around it got unplugged it's not plugged around it got unplugged it's not plugged around it got unplugged it's not plugged in in uh in the computer world we call in in uh in the computer world we call in in uh in the computer world we call that an error between the chair and the that an error between the chair and the that an error between the chair and the keyboard all right so this is a great keyboard all right so this is a great keyboard all right so this is a great example of the kind of like reassert example of the kind of like reassert example of the kind of like reassert your assumptions that happens when your assumptions that happens when your assumptions that happens when you're doing this kind of work in that you're doing this kind of work in that you're doing this kind of work in that case there as I mentioned at the

case there as I mentioned at the case there as I mentioned at the beginning this device is not powered beginning this device is not powered beginning this device is not powered with that 5 volts from USB it's powered with that 5 volts from USB it's powered with that 5 volts from USB it's powered by 12 volts and I bumped the cable it by 12 volts and I bumped the cable it by 12 volts and I bumped the cable it popped out and it never came back so popped out and it never came back so popped out and it never came back so let's go and try that again see if it let's go and try that again see if it let's go and try that again see if it works that's works that's works that's fun all right let's fun all right let's fun all right let's try can you hear that I'm not sure if try can you hear that I'm not sure if try can you hear that I'm not sure if you can hear that look at that okay it's reading that okay it's reading it woohoo all right that is reading it it woohoo all right that is reading it it woohoo all right that is reading it there okay so we're getting that there okay so we're getting that there okay so we're getting that information off the disk it's information off the disk it's information off the disk it's going so it's spinning up and it's got going so it's spinning up and it's got going so it's spinning up and it's got that drive so we are now we are now we that drive so we are now we are now we that drive so we are now we are now we just read a 40y old disc off of for a just read a 40y old disc off of for a just read a 40y old disc off of for a comer 64 now the question is what can we comer 64 now the question is what can we comer 64 now the question is what can we do with that let's see so let's take a do with that let's see so let's take a do with that let's see so let's take a look that drive I think we put it in a look that drive I think we put it in a look that drive I think we put it in a folder called folder called folder called c64 15 okay now what we're going to do c64 15 okay now what we're going to do c64 15 okay now what we're going to do to see if that worked you can do two to see if that worked you can do two to see if that worked you can do two things first we can open it up in an things first we can open it up in an things first we can open it up in an application that'll let us read that application that'll let us read that application that'll let us read that floppy because we have a floppy dis floppy because we have a floppy dis floppy because we have a floppy dis image so we can say load that image file image so we can say load that image file image so we can say load that image file in this tool here which is called hxc in this tool here which is called hxc in this tool here which is called hxc floppy emulator and I'm going to open floppy emulator and I'm going to open floppy emulator and I'm going to open that that that up and then I'm going to say dis up and then I'm going to say dis up and then I'm going to say dis browser and this one's interesting so

browser and this one's interesting so browser and this one's interesting so this one says hey I loaded it 35 tracks this one says hey I loaded it 35 tracks this one says hey I loaded it 35 tracks but it says some errors found maybe it's but it says some errors found maybe it's but it says some errors found maybe it's D damaged well it could be that the file D damaged well it could be that the file D damaged well it could be that the file system type that I selected here is system type that I selected here is system type that I selected here is wrong because it's not actually a a a wrong because it's not actually a a a wrong because it's not actually a a a fat disc so I may not be able to look at fat disc so I may not be able to look at fat disc so I may not be able to look at it in this tool this this floppy it in this tool this this floppy it in this tool this this floppy emulator may not support that that emulator may not support that that emulator may not support that that information now remember that I information now remember that I information now remember that I mentioned that there were a bunch of mentioned that there were a bunch of mentioned that there were a bunch of different tools one of them was called different tools one of them was called different tools one of them was called uh ARA and if I remember correctly I put uh ARA and if I remember correctly I put uh ARA and if I remember correctly I put ARA here auu rather pardon me and ARA here auu rather pardon me and ARA here auu rather pardon me and aru is a digital preservation tool there we go and you can go and say tool there we go and you can go and say auu auu auu image and then AR image info I'm going image and then AR image info I'm going image and then AR image info I'm going to put myself somewhere else so that our to put myself somewhere else so that our to put myself somewhere else so that our folks on YouTube can see that AR image folks on YouTube can see that AR image folks on YouTube can see that AR image info and we're going to see if we can info and we're going to see if we can info and we're going to see if we can look inside of that dis AR image info look inside of that dis AR image info look inside of that dis AR image info and that's on C users Scott one drive and that's on C users Scott one drive and that's on C users Scott one drive desktop and I think I called that image desktop and I think I called that image desktop and I think I called that image number 15 15 14 where have we put that friends let's 14 where have we put that friends let's 14 where have we put that friends let's find find find out out out c64 single so let's take a look and let's single so let's take a look and let's see if aru can tell us about that

wrong there we go now this is a great wrong there we go now this is a great application that's written by Natalia application that's written by Natalia application that's written by Natalia Portillo and you can see here that it contains a raw dis image and we can see contains a raw dis image and we can see how many sectors we got out of it so how many sectors we got out of it so how many sectors we got out of it so we've confirmed that this applic this we've confirmed that this applic this we've confirmed that this applic this this floppy or not this floppy here but this floppy or not this floppy here but this floppy or not this floppy here but the one that I have in the disc one of the one that I have in the disc one of the one that I have in the disc one of these 40-year-old floppies is red we these 40-year-old floppies is red we these 40-year-old floppies is red we don't necessarily know if it's healthy don't necessarily know if it's healthy don't necessarily know if it's healthy or not but we can test that if we want or not but we can test that if we want or not but we can test that if we want by actually opening up a Commodore by actually opening up a Commodore by actually opening up a Commodore emulator so here's an emulator so here's an emulator so here's an emulator that is a commodor 64 emulator emulator that is a commodor 64 emulator emulator that is a commodor 64 emulator and let's give it a try and let's say and let's give it a try and let's say and let's give it a try and let's say start image there's different images start image there's different images start image there's different images that I made before now these are d64 that I made before now these are d64 that I made before now these are d64 images these are six c64 discs but we uh images these are six c64 discs but we uh images these are six c64 discs but we uh used an IMG file and I don't know if used an IMG file and I don't know if used an IMG file and I don't know if that'll work it might not work at all that'll work it might not work at all that'll work it might not work at all actually but we can give it a try actually but we can give it a try actually but we can give it a try I think we called it attempt 15 let's confirm because I think we 15 let's confirm because I think we might be mixing up our extensions nope might be mixing up our extensions nope might be mixing up our extensions nope when I ripped it I did rip it as c64 when I ripped it I did rip it as c64 when I ripped it I did rip it as c64 single 15. d64 dis 64 so this right single 15. d64 dis 64 so this right single 15. d64 dis 64 so this right here is that dis so we just read that here is that dis so we just read that here is that dis so we just read that off and let me go ahead and pull that off and let me go ahead and pull that off and let me go ahead and pull that and show it to you to make sure you're and show it to you to make sure you're and show it to you to make sure you're clear we took the information from here clear we took the information from here clear we took the information from here from this 40y old from this 40y old from this 40y old public domain commod 64 public domain commod 64 public domain commod 64 disc and we've just taken it and we've disc and we've just taken it and we've disc and we've just taken it and we've pulled it off and now we've got it on pulled it off and now we've got it on pulled it off and now we've got it on our machine on our PC running inside of our machine on our PC running inside of our machine on our PC running inside of this emulator so let's take a look and

this emulator so let's take a look and this emulator so let's take a look and see if one of these actually see if one of these actually see if one of these actually works uh these are probably silly little works uh these are probably silly little works uh these are probably silly little games so they're not necessarily going games so they're not necessarily going games so they're not necessarily going to look fantastic so we're not imagining in this fantastic so we're not imagining in this case here these are from the early early case here these are from the early early case here these are from the early early 80s and we did a lot lot of things in 80s and we did a lot lot of things in 80s and we did a lot lot of things in text when we were doing that oh wow it's text when we were doing that oh wow it's text when we were doing that oh wow it's got graphics so that's pretty awesome got graphics so that's pretty awesome got graphics so that's pretty awesome it's building a lunar lander kind of a it's building a lunar lander kind of a it's building a lunar lander kind of a game here oh wow this is pretty high-end game here oh wow this is pretty high-end game here oh wow this is pretty high-end graphics for for 1981 kids let me just graphics for for 1981 kids let me just graphics for for 1981 kids let me just tell you so the question is then how do tell you so the question is then how do tell you so the question is then how do I move this thing around I don't even I move this thing around I don't even I move this thing around I don't even remember I should have probably read the instructions so you see I just said instructions so you see I just said break so now my application is basically break so now my application is basically break so now my application is basically over let's go and do a reset and I'll over let's go and do a reset and I'll over let's go and do a reset and I'll show you how we would get back back in show you how we would get back back in show you how we would get back back in there and then maybe we'll read the there and then maybe we'll read the there and then maybe we'll read the instructions again and learn about that instructions again and learn about that instructions again and learn about that we're going to go in here do a Power we're going to go in here do a Power we're going to go in here do a Power Cycle okay yeah Luis uh on the chat says Cycle okay yeah Luis uh on the chat says Cycle okay yeah Luis uh on the chat says it's like a pico8 game yeah we've only it's like a pico8 game yeah we've only it's like a pico8 game yeah we've only got 64k here so I'm going to go and say got 64k here so I'm going to go and say got 64k here so I'm going to go and say load directory comma load directory comma load directory comma 8 I'm going to go and load the director 8 I'm going to go and load the director 8 I'm going to go and load the director you have to you don't just type you have to you don't just type you have to you don't just type directory you type load uh dollar sign directory you type load uh dollar sign directory you type load uh dollar sign and then you say list and that's the and then you say list and that's the and then you say list and that's the output of what's going on in this output of what's going on in this output of what's going on in this particular application and then you particular application and then you particular application and then you would say load would say load would say load uh and then in this case I think the uh and then in this case I think the uh and then in this case I think the application was called application was called application was called Lander comma 8 it looks for it it loads Lander comma 8 it looks for it it loads Lander comma 8 it looks for it it loads it it's going to run it it's going to run it it's going to run it we type then run at the end once it's

it we type then run at the end once it's it we type then run at the end once it's loaded and these things take a while loaded and these things take a while loaded and these things take a while this is this is not Windows one my this is this is not Windows one my this is this is not Windows one my friends this is uh this one's comter 64 friends this is uh this one's comter 64 friends this is uh this one's comter 64 but the context is we've just pulled but the context is we've just pulled but the context is we've just pulled that disc we've pulled that game off of that disc we've pulled that game off of that disc we've pulled that game off of a 40-year-old disc and I've got a whole a 40-year-old disc and I've got a whole a 40-year-old disc and I've got a whole bucket of these so there's going to be bucket of these so there's going to be bucket of these so there's going to be some gems on there there's going to be some gems on there there's going to be some gems on there there's going to be some stuff that people haven't seen in a some stuff that people haven't seen in a some stuff that people haven't seen in a long time if you want to learn more long time if you want to learn more long time if you want to learn more about these things you can go to the about these things you can go to the about these things you can go to the internet archive at archive.org uh internet archive at archive.org uh internet archive at archive.org uh they've done some amazing work so here I they've done some amazing work so here I they've done some amazing work so here I just hit run we'll go ahead and look at just hit run we'll go ahead and look at just hit run we'll go ahead and look at the instructions and let's remind the instructions and let's remind the instructions and let's remind ourselves how to play this ourselves how to play this ourselves how to play this game okay so it says the star key gives game okay so it says the star key gives game okay so it says the star key gives you a Thrust and you'll start at a certain Thrust and you'll start at a certain feet and then you'll run out of fuel how feet and then you'll run out of fuel how feet and then you'll run out of fuel how do I move do I am I only doing do I move do I am I only doing do I move do I am I only doing it controls of the number Keys the it controls of the number Keys the it controls of the number Keys the higher the number the harder you thrust higher the number the harder you thrust higher the number the harder you thrust okay well I don't know if that's going okay well I don't know if that's going okay well I don't know if that's going to work or not but we'll we'll give it a to work or not but we'll we'll give it a to work or not but we'll we'll give it a try so again for folks that are just try so again for folks that are just try so again for folks that are just made it in here we've gone and taken made it in here we've gone and taken made it in here we've gone and taken this off of a 40-year-old disc and what this off of a 40-year-old disc and what this off of a 40-year-old disc and what we did is we pulled it off with a what's we did is we pulled it off with a what's we did is we pulled it off with a what's called a grease weasel which is called a grease weasel which is called a grease weasel which is literally a tool for this kind of work literally a tool for this kind of work literally a tool for this kind of work we're doing kind of digital we're doing kind of digital we're doing kind of digital archaeology all right and if you're archaeology all right and if you're archaeology all right and if you're watching this on YouTube I also stream watching this on YouTube I also stream watching this on YouTube I also stream this on Tik Tok so you're seeing on Tik this on Tik Tok so you're seeing on Tik this on Tik Tok so you're seeing on Tik Tok you're seeing this vertically on Tok you're seeing this vertically on Tok you're seeing this vertically on YouTube You'll see this YouTube You'll see this YouTube You'll see this horizontally oh there's horizontally oh there's horizontally oh there's thrust

thrust thrust okay I'm not hearing any sound so I okay I'm not hearing any sound so I okay I'm not hearing any sound so I don't know if I'm going to plummet into don't know if I'm going to plummet into don't know if I'm going to plummet into the ground or die or what's going to go the ground or die or what's going to go the ground or die or what's going to go on here let's see what other games we on here let's see what other games we on here let's see what other games we got here chess for two here chess for two that's cool enter move cool enter move E2 to no E2 to no E2 to no E2 that's a am I which which one am I am E2 that's a am I which which one am I am E2 that's a am I which which one am I am I the top one E7 two no okay that's not I the top one E7 two no okay that's not I the top one E7 two no okay that's not helpful that's a list look at that there's the list look at that there's the code this is the code or the chess game code this is the code or the chess game code this is the code or the chess game from for so long ago that's cool that from for so long ago that's cool that from for so long ago that's cool that means that I could go read that code and means that I could go read that code and means that I could go read that code and figure out why it wasn't accepting my uh figure out why it wasn't accepting my uh figure out why it wasn't accepting my uh my input there because I'm trying to my input there because I'm trying to my input there because I'm trying to figure out I assumed it would want me to figure out I assumed it would want me to figure out I assumed it would want me to go D2 to D3 or something like that go D2 to D3 or something like that go D2 to D3 or something like that A2 probably it's got something to do

A2 probably it's got something to do A2 probably it's got something to do with uh keyboard mapping because I want with uh keyboard mapping because I want with uh keyboard mapping because I want to type a hyphen and it's probably not to type a hyphen and it's probably not to type a hyphen and it's probably not allowing that uh I I wanted to go D2 allowing that uh I I wanted to go D2 allowing that uh I I wanted to go D2 to D2 to like D4 and that wasn't working to D2 to like D4 and that wasn't working to D2 to like D4 and that wasn't working out cool let's see what other games we out cool let's see what other games we out cool let's see what other games we got on here it supposed to be a here it supposed to be a guy is this a game where I'm supposed to guy is this a game where I'm supposed to guy is this a game where I'm supposed to shoot this guy okay that's awesome cool let's go go guy okay that's awesome cool let's go go back to look at the applications that we back to look at the applications that we back to look at the applications that we used to pull this data off let's try used to pull this data off let's try used to pull this data off let's try another one right now in this case we another one right now in this case we another one right now in this case we used uh grease weasel to pull off that used uh grease weasel to pull off that used uh grease weasel to pull off that data let's try another one there's data let's try another one there's data let's try another one there's another one that is an application another one that is an application another one that is an application called flux engine and flux engine will called flux engine and flux engine will called flux engine and flux engine will let me get these discs off as well so let me get these discs off as well so let me get these discs off as well so let's try one of let's try one of let's try one of those flux engine is a different front those flux engine is a different front those flux engine is a different front end a different UI on top of the tool end a different UI on top of the tool end a different UI on top of the tool that lets me get the data off of these that lets me get the data off of these that lets me get the data off of these off of these floppies let's try another disc that might have games on it we'll disc that might have games on it we'll put it in here now not all of these games are

here now not all of these games are going to be healthy because this is 40y going to be healthy because this is 40y going to be healthy because this is 40y old discs so let's go and see if we can old discs so let's go and see if we can old discs so let's go and see if we can do a read I don't know if you can hear that read I don't know if you can hear that or not I'm going to hold the mic phone or not I'm going to hold the mic phone or not I'm going to hold the mic phone near it see if you can hear that now we're it see if you can hear that now we're reading look at that look at that right reading look at that look at that right reading look at that look at that right there reading that 40-year-old disc there reading that 40-year-old disc there reading that 40-year-old disc except it's using it's still using the except it's using it's still using the except it's using it's still using the grease weasel but it's using the flux grease weasel but it's using the flux grease weasel but it's using the flux engine tool uh for folks that were engine tool uh for folks that were engine tool uh for folks that were asking I'm using Zoom it to point at the asking I'm using Zoom it to point at the asking I'm using Zoom it to point at the screen so we can see that there's a bad screen so we can see that there's a bad screen so we can see that there's a bad a bad error there and I remember I a bad error there and I remember I a bad error there and I remember I mentioned before that we're reading this mentioned before that we're reading this mentioned before that we're reading this information not the digital bits and information not the digital bits and information not the digital bits and bytes but reading the flux and then bytes but reading the flux and then bytes but reading the flux and then making a decision about the bits and making a decision about the bits and making a decision about the bits and bytes so this may be a good disc it may bytes so this may be a good disc it may bytes so this may be a good disc it may not be a good disc we're going to say not be a good disc we're going to say not be a good disc we're going to say save decoded image and we're going to save decoded image and we're going to save decoded image and we're going to call this uh call this uh call this uh c64 we'll call this uh attempt number 16 okay so I've just saved that now we 16 okay so I've just saved that now we don't know if this is a good disc or not don't know if this is a good disc or not don't know if this is a good disc or not because we got two spots there that because we got two spots there that because we got two spots there that might not be healthy and I could run might not be healthy and I could run might not be healthy and I could run that multiple times in tests okay so let's go and run okay so let's go and run our application again we're going to go our application again we're going to go our application again we're going to go and run our emulator this is running our and run our emulator this is running our and run our emulator this is running our Commodore 64 emulator because we want to Commodore 64 emulator because we want to Commodore 64 emulator because we want to see if that disc that we just read is see if that disc that we just read is see if that disc that we just read is going to succeed so I'm using one that's going to succeed so I'm using one that's going to succeed so I'm using one that's called

called called Vice now in this example in these demos Vice now in this example in these demos Vice now in this example in these demos what I'm doing is just using Comer 64 what I'm doing is just using Comer 64 what I'm doing is just using Comer 64 discs but you could pull information off discs but you could pull information off discs but you could pull information off of any dis with these dis drives you of any dis with these dis drives you of any dis with these dis drives you could use a could use a could use a you know Amiga or whatever because you know Amiga or whatever because you know Amiga or whatever because digital preservation and digital digital preservation and digital digital preservation and digital Archaeology is not specific to to Archaeology is not specific to to Archaeology is not specific to to commodor okay so let's go and find commodor okay so let's go and find commodor okay so let's go and find attempt number 16 and let's see if attempt number 16 and let's see if attempt number 16 and let's see if there's anything on that disc oh look at there's anything on that disc oh look at there's anything on that disc oh look at that so we got maybe Donkey Kong we got that so we got maybe Donkey Kong we got that so we got maybe Donkey Kong we got maybe Star Trek maybe Pac-Man but this maybe Star Trek maybe Pac-Man but this maybe Star Trek maybe Pac-Man but this might not work let's find out okay so Pac-Man didn't do out okay so Pac-Man didn't do anything that's not comforting anything that's not comforting anything that's not comforting Donkey Kong come on give me something Donkey Kong come on give me something Donkey Kong come on give me something now that could be a number of reasons now that could be a number of reasons now that could be a number of reasons right that could be because I read the right that could be because I read the right that could be because I read the disc wrong could be the dis is bad this disc wrong could be the dis is bad this disc wrong could be the dis is bad this one one one says single-sided double says single-sided double says single-sided double density and the one that I did before density and the one that I did before density and the one that I did before was single-sided single density so we was single-sided single density so we was single-sided single density so we could go back and we could read it could go back and we could read it could go back and we could read it again and we could click this is a high again and we could click this is a high again and we could click this is a high density disc and see if that gives us density disc and see if that gives us density disc and see if that gives us better better better data so look at that let's see if we can data so look at that let's see if we can data so look at that let's see if we can get that looks a little cleaner we get that looks a little cleaner we get that looks a little cleaner we haven't got any dots yet oh there's one haven't got any dots yet oh there's one haven't got any dots yet oh there's one one bad sector we'll see if we can pull one bad sector we'll see if we can pull one bad sector we'll see if we can pull that off pulling pulling data off of that off pulling pulling data off of that off pulling pulling data off of 40-year-old floppy discs found in a 40-year-old floppy discs found in a 40-year-old floppy discs found in a garage what we're doing we're looking garage what we're doing we're looking garage what we're doing we're looking for games friends maybe we'll recover a

for games friends maybe we'll recover a for games friends maybe we'll recover a copy of of Pac-Man that someone hasn't copy of of Pac-Man that someone hasn't copy of of Pac-Man that someone hasn't found before so that's what we're found before so that's what we're found before so that's what we're doing okay now I'm going to go and save doing okay now I'm going to go and save doing okay now I'm going to go and save that decoded image that decoded image that decoded image and we'll call and we'll call and we'll call that number that number that number 17 we'll go back to our Comer 64 17 we'll go back to our Comer 64 17 we'll go back to our Comer 64 emulator emulator emulator here and we'll try to load up attemp 17 here and we'll try to load up attemp 17 here and we'll try to load up attemp 17 we'll try we'll try for Donkey Kong again nope not giving me any love on again nope not giving me any love on that one it's a shame though because it that one it's a shame though because it that one it's a shame though because it looks like there some stuff here I want looks like there some stuff here I want looks like there some stuff here I want to to to see oh man what's going what's going on oh hang on hang on hang on come on on oh hang on hang on hang on come on on oh hang on hang on hang on come on give me something give me something give give me something give me something give give me something give me something give me something come on something come on work this is where I might be outside of work this is where I might be outside of work this is where I might be outside of my uh abilities because I need to figure my uh abilities because I need to figure my uh abilities because I need to figure out did it did it work did it load it out did it did it work did it load it out did it did it work did it load it why is it not loading I haven't done why is it not loading I haven't done why is it not loading I haven't done this stuff in a while I was close on that one let's try again I was close on that one let's try again looks like we picked boot now I might try different boot now I might try different emulators as well to see if this works emulators as well to see if this works emulators as well to see if this works because we're again we're pulling this because we're again we're pulling this because we're again we're pulling this information off information off information off of Old of Old of Old drives so is it working because I didn't

drives so is it working because I didn't drives so is it working because I didn't pull it off pull it off pull it off correctly is it work is it not working correctly is it work is it not working correctly is it work is it not working because I'm uh set the wrong settings I because I'm uh set the wrong settings I because I'm uh set the wrong settings I feel like it should work because it feel like it should work because it feel like it should work because it wouldn't have gotten this know it's just hanging at know it's just hanging at loading so that makes me wonder if I loading so that makes me wonder if I loading so that makes me wonder if I need to try a different need to try a different need to try a different emulator let's try a different desktop okay so maybe that was not the desktop okay so maybe that was not the move no Pac-Man nope not happening for me man no Pac-Man nope not happening for me man not happening for me let's me let's [Music] that was 17 I think we decided that this

that was 17 I think we decided that this one is not cool so I'm going to have to one is not cool so I'm going to have to one is not cool so I'm going to have to put that one aside and figure out put that one aside and figure out put that one aside and figure out why these aren't working but we can try why these aren't working but we can try why these aren't working but we can try another disc so we're pulling another disc so we're pulling another disc so we're pulling information off of really really old information off of really really old information off of really really old discs here might be another game Mario oh here might be another game Mario oh Mario Mario Mario Brothers oh yo okay hold up this one Brothers oh yo okay hold up this one Brothers oh yo okay hold up this one says this one says this one says this one says Mario oh it worked it did work it was Mario oh it worked it did work it was just slow yo yo it worked do I need a joystick I need I worked do I need a joystick I need I don't have a don't have a don't have a joystick oh I can use the joystick oh I can use the joystick oh I can use the arrows how do I shoot shoot see you'd have to read the actual shoot see you'd have to read the actual manual back in the manual back in the manual back in the day one of these somewhere there's a day one of these somewhere there's a day one of these somewhere there's a could be could be could be shift okay it's not shift okay it's not shift okay it's not space space pauses dude does this mean we can play pauses dude does this mean we can play Donkey Kong maybe I just didn't wait long

maybe I just didn't wait long enough all right this is cool this is enough all right this is cool this is enough all right this is cool this is awesome okay so this is an interesting awesome okay so this is an interesting awesome okay so this is an interesting point you know I was 10 when these point you know I was 10 when these point you know I was 10 when these things were out uh I it sits here and it things were out uh I it sits here and it things were out uh I it sits here and it hangs for a minute and I'm like this hangs for a minute and I'm like this hangs for a minute and I'm like this sucks right this is taking a sucks right this is taking a sucks right this is taking a minute we used to go for a walk and come minute we used to go for a walk and come minute we used to go for a walk and come back I forgot about this this is so slow back I forgot about this this is so slow back I forgot about this this is so slow it's slow now there's ways to fix this it's slow now there's ways to fix this it's slow now there's ways to fix this by the way I can go in here uh and I can by the way I can go in here uh and I can by the way I can go in here uh and I can go into drive and drive eight settings go into drive and drive eight settings go into drive and drive eight settings and right now I'm in what's called true and right now I'm in what's called true and right now I'm in what's called true Drive emulation mode and I could turn Drive emulation mode and I could turn Drive emulation mode and I could turn that off and theoretically load it as that off and theoretically load it as that off and theoretically load it as fast as possible but right now we're in fast as possible but right now we're in fast as possible but right now we're in the like the most the like the most the like the most legit uh you know this is actually as legit uh you know this is actually as legit uh you know this is actually as slow as it is there's even a thing on slow as it is there's even a thing on slow as it is there's even a thing on the emulator that can go and make it uh the emulator that can go and make it uh the emulator that can go and make it uh make the sounds make the dis noises but make the sounds make the dis noises but make the sounds make the dis noises but of course because we have an actual of course because we have an actual of course because we have an actual drive right here and we actually we read drive right here and we actually we read drive right here and we actually we read we read that like legit we read that like legit we read that like legit boom now we're cooking look at that yes that yes yes that is freaking yes that is freaking yes that is freaking awesome damn it you did it Donkey Kong awesome damn it you did it Donkey Kong awesome damn it you did it Donkey Kong on a four-year-old disc okay does it work where's my I disc okay does it work where's my I don't have a don't have a don't have a [Music] [Music] [Music] joystick I don't have a joystick joystick I don't have a joystick joystick I don't have a joystick I don't think I I think I need to go and I don't think I I think I need to go and I don't think I I think I need to go and find a find a find a joystick Ah that's a good point actually

joystick Ah that's a good point actually joystick Ah that's a good point actually this is an emulator I bet you there's a this is an emulator I bet you there's a this is an emulator I bet you there's a joystic [Music] [Music] feature what would that be under machine under machine settings joystick settings native settings joystick settings native settings joystick settings native joystic number joystic number joystic number pad okay pretending to be a joystick right pretending to be a joystick right now okay and that's how I now okay and that's how I now okay and that's how I jump jump jump zero okay that's sure I'm just streaming I'll be done a sure I'm just streaming I'll be done a little little little bit that's cool holy crap that's the bit that's cool holy crap that's the bit that's cool holy crap that's the coolest disc I found so coolest disc I found so coolest disc I found so far all right let's do Pac-Man and call far all right let's do Pac-Man and call far all right let's do Pac-Man and call it because that's freaking amazing all it because that's freaking amazing all it because that's freaking amazing all right cool so just a reminder what we do right cool so just a reminder what we do right cool so just a reminder what we do here we found a pile of floppy discs here we found a pile of floppy discs here we found a pile of floppy discs from a garage sale some of these go back from a garage sale some of these go back from a garage sale some of these go back to like 1981 some of these are 43 44 to like 1981 some of these are 43 44 to like 1981 some of these are 43 44 years

years years old this one said Donkey Kong and Star old this one said Donkey Kong and Star old this one said Donkey Kong and Star Trek we pulled it with what's called Trek we pulled it with what's called Trek we pulled it with what's called a grease a grease a grease weasel which is a adapter that lets you weasel which is a adapter that lets you weasel which is a adapter that lets you pull stuff a look at that lets you pull pull stuff a look at that lets you pull pull stuff a look at that lets you pull stuff off of these older drives the stuff off of these older drives the stuff off of these older drives the drive is not a Commodore Drive this is drive is not a Commodore Drive this is drive is not a Commodore Drive this is not a commodor drive this is actually a not a commodor drive this is actually a not a commodor drive this is actually a fujit I got on eBay for 30 bucks I 3D fujit I got on eBay for 30 bucks I 3D fujit I got on eBay for 30 bucks I 3D printed a case around it I've got my printed a case around it I've got my printed a case around it I've got my ribbon cable set up and then we pulled ribbon cable set up and then we pulled ribbon cable set up and then we pulled using a using a using a tool called flux tool called flux tool called flux engine we pulled the data off of that engine we pulled the data off of that engine we pulled the data off of that dis we confirmed it with another tool dis we confirmed it with another tool dis we confirmed it with another tool called called called ARA ARA ARA aru we can convert so there's lots of aru we can convert so there's lots of aru we can convert so there's lots of different tools that'll do this work different tools that'll do this work different tools that'll do this work then we loaded it into Vice and then if then we loaded it into Vice and then if then we loaded it into Vice and then if this works we're playing pack and that's freaking awesome okay hang on and that's freaking awesome okay hang on I need I need to change my I need I need to change my I need I need to change my joystick machine settings joystick settings native joystick numpad okay settings native joystick numpad okay press [Music] [Music] F1 it keep restarting maybe I need to F1 it keep restarting maybe I need to F1 it keep restarting maybe I need to wait wait wait [Music] [Music] [Music] okay so something's not like in the okay so something's not like in the okay so something's not like in the joystick setting there it keeps starting joystick setting there it keeps starting joystick setting there it keeps starting over again I'm going to turn the

over again I'm going to turn the over again I'm going to turn the joystick off and wait and see if this is maybe off and wait and see if this is maybe arrow arrow arrow [Music] instructions I don't know if it's WBY I instructions I don't know if it's WBY I don't know if they did WBY back in the don't know if they did WBY back in the don't know if they did WBY back in the day day day [Music] again for folks that are asking how do again for folks that are asking how do you draw in the screen there's a tool you draw in the screen there's a tool you draw in the screen there's a tool called Zoom called Zoom called Zoom it Zoom that's that's hot all right hot all right hot all right cool that was fun so uh just for context cool that was fun so uh just for context cool that was fun so uh just for context if you're wondering why this is such a if you're wondering why this is such a if you're wondering why this is such a casual stream that's because I'm casual stream that's because I'm casual stream that's because I'm recording this for YouTube and I'm also recording this for YouTube and I'm also recording this for YouTube and I'm also simultaneously streaming the vertical simultaneously streaming the vertical simultaneously streaming the vertical version of this on Tik Tok go ahead and version of this on Tik Tok go ahead and version of this on Tik Tok go ahead and take a look at my Tik Tok if you want to take a look at my Tik Tok if you want to take a look at my Tik Tok if you want to see a lot more cool content like this see a lot more cool content like this see a lot more cool content like this I've got a pile of these discs I'm going I've got a pile of these discs I'm going I've got a pile of these discs I'm going to go through and figure out what sweet to go through and figure out what sweet to go through and figure out what sweet sweet things I've found on them uh and sweet things I've found on them uh and sweet things I've found on them uh and uh as the say like And subscribe see you uh as the say like And subscribe see you uh as the say like And subscribe see you by