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Scott Hanselman December 5, 2024 36m

The Return of Scott's Wife Mo

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  1. hey friends we have some news from our hey friends we have some news from our sponsor text control they just released sponsor text control they just released sponsor text control they just released version 32 of their document processing version 32 of their document processing version 32 of their document processing Library which includes new core Library which includes new core Library which includes new core functionality such as document footnotes functionality such as document footnotes functionality such as document footnotes SVG export and more you can integrate SVG export and more you can integrate SVG export and more you can integrate document editing signing collaboration document editing signing collaboration document editing signing collaboration and PDF processing into your asp.net and PDF processing into your asp.net and PDF processing into your asp.net core and angular applications with TX core and angular applications with TX core and angular applications with TX text control these powerful libraries text control these powerful libraries text control these powerful libraries will let your developer teams focus on will let your developer teams focus on will let your developer teams focus on their core competencies while text their core competencies while text their core competencies while text control handles your digital document control handles your digital document control handles your digital document processing check out all the new feat Fe processing check out all the new feat Fe processing check out all the new feat Fe and see the Technologies live in action and see the Technologies live in action and see the Technologies live in action by visiting the demo at demos. text by visiting the demo at demos. text by visiting the demo at demos. text control.com that's demos. text [Music] [Music] control.com hey friends I'm Scott Hansel control.com hey friends I'm Scott Hansel control.com hey friends I'm Scott Hansel and this is another episode of Hansel and this is another episode of Hansel and this is another episode of Hansel minutes in fact this is a special minutes in fact this is a special minutes in fact this is a special episode a very special episode of the episode a very special episode of the episode a very special episode of the Hest podcast uh is the return of my wife Hest podcast uh is the return of my wife Hest podcast uh is the return of my wife hello wife hey Scott hansing how are you hello wife hey Scott hansing how are you hello wife hey Scott hansing how are you I'm very well uh thanks for hanging out I'm very well uh thanks for hanging out I'm very well uh thanks for hanging out we've had you on the show three or four we've had you on the show three or four we've had you on the show three or four times before and uh believe it or not times before and uh believe it or not times before and uh believe it or not they are some of the highest rated they are some of the highest rated they are some of the highest rated episodes of the handsman podcast because episodes of the handsman podcast because episodes of the handsman podcast because people want to know uh I guess how you people want to know uh I guess how you people want to know uh I guess how you can put up with me what do we at we're can put up with me what do we at we're can put up with me what do we at we're coming up 25 years next year 24 years coming up 25 years next year 24 years coming up 25 years next year 24 years now yeah 25 next year yeah crazy in a in now yeah 25 next year yeah crazy in a in now yeah 25 next year yeah crazy in a in a minute yeah yeah a minute yeah yeah a minute yeah yeah tiresome oh it's exhaus I'm a saint but tiresome oh it's exhaus I'm a saint but tiresome oh it's exhaus I'm a saint but I I you

  2. I I you I I you know makes you my cross to bear uh okay know makes you my cross to bear uh okay know makes you my cross to bear uh okay you know we we talked about the idea you know we we talked about the idea you know we we talked about the idea that it's a uh a mixed marriage and we that it's a uh a mixed marriage and we that it's a uh a mixed marriage and we joke about that because a mixed marriage joke about that because a mixed marriage joke about that because a mixed marriage could mean many things people usually could mean many things people usually could mean many things people usually think it means like race or it means think it means like race or it means think it means like race or it means culture uh certainly you were born in culture uh certainly you were born in culture uh certainly you were born in another country you're born in Zab babwe another country you're born in Zab babwe another country you're born in Zab babwe but uh I've always thought it was a but uh I've always thought it was a but uh I've always thought it was a mixed marriage because uh you're just mixed marriage because uh you're just mixed marriage because uh you're just wired differently than I'm wired you wired differently than I'm wired you wired differently than I'm wired you know what I mean like do you think that know what I mean like do you think that know what I mean like do you think that the gender or race or never gender of the gender or race or never gender of the gender or race or never gender of course but like the things that make us course but like the things that make us course but like the things that make us different is it the personality stuff or different is it the personality stuff or different is it the personality stuff or is it the way you grew up stuff that is it the way you grew up stuff that is it the way you grew up stuff that makes us the most different yeah makes us the most different yeah makes us the most different yeah actually that's a great question I'm actually that's a great question I'm actually that's a great question I'm always taken aack by how little for us always taken aack by how little for us always taken aack by how little for us the race is an issue um it's that's not the race is an issue um it's that's not the race is an issue um it's that's not the top three things that I think about the top three things that I think about the top three things that I think about when I think about differences between when I think about differences between when I think about differences between you and me it's very cultural a lot of you and me it's very cultural a lot of you and me it's very cultural a lot of it is how I was raised versus how you it is how I was raised versus how you it is how I was raised versus how you were raised I mean I was rilled I think were raised I mean I was rilled I think were raised I mean I was rilled I think it's that different I think so I mean we it's that different I think so I mean we it's that different I think so I mean we were always drilled with that hole show were always drilled with that hole show were always drilled with that hole show respect to your elders where is you he respect to your elders where is you he respect to your elders where is you he to old people come on man no you say to old people come on man no you say to old people come on man no you say grandma walk you on the street knock her grandma walk you on the street knock her grandma walk you on the street knock her over that's pretty much we have to do over that's pretty much we have to do over that's pretty much we have to do the whole like Ubuntu ubun but no my my the whole like Ubuntu ubun but no my my the whole like Ubuntu ubun but no my my family is family focused and we always family is family focused and we always family is family focused and we always get together and like so like why do you get together and like so like why do you get together and like so like why do you think that that's culturally is think that that's culturally is think that that's culturally is different because I don't I don't well different because I don't I don't well different because I don't I don't well back up when you say w do do people know back up when you say w do do people know back up when you say w do do people know what that is yeah explain the whole what that is yeah explain the whole what that is yeah explain the whole thing well no you explain it no it's I thing well no you explain it no it's I thing well no you explain it no it's I don't want to take away space from you don't want to take away space from you don't want to take away space from you always have to defer to with the person always have to defer to with the person always have to defer to with the person plus you're the one who's living auntu plus you're the one who's living auntu plus you're the one who's living auntu I'm just the uh the

  3. colonizer that got real just saying colonizer that got real just saying please please please explain is like U like Humanity like but explain is like U like Humanity like but explain is like U like Humanity like but explain the sentence the whole thing see explain the sentence the whole thing see explain the sentence the whole thing see and then when I try to explain it I'm and then when I try to explain it I'm and then when I try to explain it I'm going to do your way so right there the going to do your way so right there the going to do your way so right there the oppression is oppression is oppression is great come on D no no as I was saying is great come on D no no as I was saying is great come on D no no as I was saying is Humanity so it's it's it's the way of Humanity so it's it's it's the way of Humanity so it's it's it's the way of being uh the reverence that we have for being uh the reverence that we have for being uh the reverence that we have for each other right the respect and all each other right the respect and all each other right the respect and all that stuff so that that's that's what I that stuff so that that's that's what I that stuff so that that's that's what I think of think of think of is I was thinking about is I was thinking about is I was thinking about the to wuntu like people are people the to wuntu like people are people the to wuntu like people are people through other people like we are the through other people like we are the through other people like we are the whole like if you can't just say the whole like if you can't just say the whole like if you can't just say the word well no if people think wuntu they word well no if people think wuntu they word well no if people think wuntu they think about the operating system like think about the operating system like think about the operating system like you could people want well and again the you could people want well and again the you could people want well and again the difference between us every everyone in difference between us every everyone in difference between us every everyone in this call is like abun why do they he this call is like abun why do they he this call is like abun why do they he likes Windows likes Windows likes Windows why no no and the expression that you why no no and the expression that you why no no and the expression that you saying saying saying is an expression that that says exactly is an expression that that says exactly is an expression that that says exactly what you said which is a person is a what you said which is a person is a what you said which is a person is a person by people kind of a thing meaning person by people kind of a thing meaning person by people kind of a thing meaning you're not alone if you're alone if you're not alone if you're alone if you're not alone if you're alone if you're like one person and you're the you're like one person and you're the you're like one person and you're the only person on the entire planet you only person on the entire planet you only person on the entire planet you can't really be a person because you're can't really be a person because you're can't really be a person because you're defined by the people around you and defined by the people around you and defined by the people around you and your and working together and Community your and working together and Community your and working together and Community exactly and all that stuff so so I mean exactly and all that stuff so so I mean exactly and all that stuff so so I mean I but my culture was very much a we I but my culture was very much a we I but my culture was very much a we culture right I mean I have six siblings culture right I mean I have six siblings culture right I mean I have six siblings you have one so inherent in my you have one so inherent in my you have one so inherent in my upbringing was always for instance the upbringing was always for instance the upbringing was always for instance the the the sharing the of the others the the the sharing the of the others the the the sharing the of the others the worrying I mean it was it was never worrying I mean it was it was never worrying I mean it was it was never really that quick there was no really that quick there was no really that quick there was no conversation we had growing up that was conversation we had growing up that was conversation we had growing up that was simple and easy because amongst the simple and easy because amongst the simple and easy because amongst the siblings when there's seven of you total

  4. siblings when there's seven of you total siblings when there's seven of you total right it's going to take a minute to go right it's going to take a minute to go right it's going to take a minute to go around and have everybody's opinion and around and have everybody's opinion and around and have everybody's opinion and some of us had two opinions so it took some of us had two opinions so it took some of us had two opinions so it took even longer okay so then put that in the even longer okay so then put that in the even longer okay so then put that in the context of like you know quote unquote context of like you know quote unquote context of like you know quote unquote American exceptionalism and American American exceptionalism and American American exceptionalism and American like individualism like everyone here is like individualism like everyone here is like individualism like everyone here is like you're amazing you're unique you're like you're amazing you're unique you're like you're amazing you're unique you're special uh there's not the focus on the special uh there's not the focus on the special uh there's not the focus on the collective the the concept of it takes a collective the the concept of it takes a collective the the concept of it takes a village you know did not come from you village you know did not come from you village you know did not come from you know American I mean yeah that's not an know American I mean yeah that's not an know American I mean yeah that's not an American saying um yeah it for us it American saying um yeah it for us it American saying um yeah it for us it does it takes a village it really that does it takes a village it really that does it takes a village it really that idea of saying okay what are we going to idea of saying okay what are we going to idea of saying okay what are we going to do and sometimes you have to sacrifice do and sometimes you have to sacrifice do and sometimes you have to sacrifice yourself for the benit of the good you yourself for the benit of the good you yourself for the benit of the good you know or when you'd see kids out in the know or when you'd see kids out in the know or when you'd see kids out in the street and I think we've talked about street and I think we've talked about street and I think we've talked about this before in your podcast about how this before in your podcast about how this before in your podcast about how the village takes responsibility for you the village takes responsibility for you the village takes responsibility for you so you would have people walk up to you so you would have people walk up to you so you would have people walk up to you and kind of give you a little slap on and kind of give you a little slap on and kind of give you a little slap on the face if you were being obnoxious or the face if you were being obnoxious or the face if you were being obnoxious or you know if you were acting you know if you were acting you know if you were acting inappropriate or metaphorical sure and inappropriate or metaphorical sure and inappropriate or metaphorical sure and sometimes it was physical back in the sometimes it was physical back in the sometimes it was physical back in the day but but usually it was more among day but but usually it was more among day but but usually it was more among the wor your aunties and your neighbors the wor your aunties and your neighbors the wor your aunties and your neighbors everyone's your auntie exactly and your everyone's your auntie exactly and your everyone's your auntie exactly and your uncle and they'd say I know your mother uncle and they'd say I know your mother uncle and they'd say I know your mother she would be so embarrassed by the way she would be so embarrassed by the way she would be so embarrassed by the way you're behaving stop it and they felt you're behaving stop it and they felt you're behaving stop it and they felt they felt obligated I will up you do they felt obligated I will up you do they felt obligated I will up you do make the boys call effectively everyone make the boys call effectively everyone make the boys call effectively everyone that we know and have over for dinner is that we know and have over for dinner is that we know and have over for dinner is Auntie yeah so I I I wonder if the boys Auntie yeah so I I I wonder if the boys Auntie yeah so I I I wonder if the boys even now at 17 and 19 can tell who's a even now at 17 and 19 can tell who's a even now at 17 and 19 can tell who's a real auntie and who's a was a real auntie and who's a was a real auntie and who's a was a neighborhood a neighborhood Auntie yeah neighborhood a neighborhood Auntie yeah neighborhood a neighborhood Auntie yeah okay but to the point about us being okay but to the point about us being okay but to the point about us being separate then are are you saying that separate then are are you saying that separate then are are you saying that that that cultural difference shows up that that cultural difference shows up that that cultural difference shows up in our conversations and our in our conversations and our in our conversations and our relationships yeah I think so because we relationships yeah I think so because we relationships yeah I think so because we will be talking about something I'll be will be talking about something I'll be will be talking about something I'll be thinking well obviously there's only one

  5. thinking well obviously there's only one thinking well obviously there's only one solution to this problem and you come at solution to this problem and you come at solution to this problem and you come at it with something completely unexpected it with something completely unexpected it with something completely unexpected and I'm like how on Earth did you think and I'm like how on Earth did you think and I'm like how on Earth did you think that was a a solution and B one worth that was a a solution and B one worth that was a a solution and B one worth vocalizing and putting on the table do vocalizing and putting on the table do vocalizing and putting on the table do you think that is because I'm American you think that is because I'm American you think that is because I'm American and we are individualistic as a culture and we are individualistic as a culture and we are individualistic as a culture as opposed to like more communal as opposed to like more communal as opposed to like more communal cultures like uh whether it be Zimbabwe cultures like uh whether it be Zimbabwe cultures like uh whether it be Zimbabwe or Korea or Japan you know that are well or Korea or Japan you know that are well or Korea or Japan you know that are well known for their like Collective known for their like Collective known for their like Collective Consciousness or is it because I'm a Consciousness or is it because I'm a Consciousness or is it because I'm a computer person who's got a touch of computer person who's got a touch of computer person who's got a touch of theism and wired a certain way all of theism and wired a certain way all of theism and wired a certain way all of the above um I think so I mean I I think the above um I think so I mean I I think the above um I think so I mean I I think again all the above yes you know as far again all the above yes you know as far again all the above yes you know as far as it's it's not only the one um I'm as it's it's not only the one um I'm as it's it's not only the one um I'm just saying like which part of it is just saying like which part of it is just saying like which part of it is America's fault and which part of it is America's fault and which part of it is America's fault and which part of it is Hans and to yeah I I don't know that I Hans and to yeah I I don't know that I Hans and to yeah I I don't know that I could break it down like 50% or 50% could break it down like 50% or 50% could break it down like 50% or 50% right I mean you are already a person so right I mean you are already a person so right I mean you are already a person so somewhere along the way the upbringing somewhere along the way the upbringing somewhere along the way the upbringing the environment or all these things but the environment or all these things but the environment or all these things but but I mean I do agree that the your but I mean I do agree that the your but I mean I do agree that the your family in particular the Hanselman Clan family in particular the Hanselman Clan family in particular the Hanselman Clan the Hansel Clan is probably a little the Hansel Clan is probably a little the Hansel Clan is probably a little different from the general American Clan different from the general American Clan different from the general American Clan right you guys are definitely a lot more right you guys are definitely a lot more right you guys are definitely a lot more broad generalization of that entire broad generalization of that entire broad generalization of that entire culture right right I'm not imputing culture right right I'm not imputing culture right right I'm not imputing everybody I'm just I'm just giving props everybody I'm just I'm just giving props everybody I'm just I'm just giving props to your family because I've always found to your family because I've always found to your family because I've always found them to be as a as a collective to be a them to be as a as a collective to be a them to be as a as a collective to be a collective first of all whereas I a collective first of all whereas I a collective first of all whereas I a friend yeah I have a friend who says you friend yeah I have a friend who says you friend yeah I have a friend who says you know she's like no you know once once know she's like no you know once once know she's like no you know once once she turned 21 she was done with her she turned 21 she was done with her she turned 21 she was done with her family um and it wasn't even necessarily family um and it wasn't even necessarily family um and it wasn't even necessarily that they were bad people but she just that they were bad people but she just that they were bad people but she just didn't feel like there was a need to be didn't feel like there was a need to be didn't feel like there was a need to be spending Christmases and holidays

  6. spending Christmases and holidays spending Christmases and holidays together so she said thank you for for together so she said thank you for for together so she said thank you for for raising me and they felt very much like raising me and they felt very much like raising me and they felt very much like her we've done our job you and IED I was her we've done our job you and IED I was her we've done our job you and IED I was very excited to move out at 19 right very excited to move out at 19 right very excited to move out at 19 right like I moved out of my parents' house at like I moved out of my parents' house at like I moved out of my parents' house at like 13 into the garage and then I moved like 13 into the garage and then I moved like 13 into the garage and then I moved fully out at 19 into an apartment and I fully out at 19 into an apartment and I fully out at 19 into an apartment and I thought that was great and for you it's thought that was great and for you it's thought that was great and for you it's like well you could you should have been like well you could you should have been like well you could you should have been able to stay until you got talking yeah able to stay until you got talking yeah able to stay until you got talking yeah I mean the 13 to 19 right moving out of I mean the 13 to 19 right moving out of I mean the 13 to 19 right moving out of the garage that's probably because you the garage that's probably because you the garage that's probably because you obnoxious and saw my's face so there was obnoxious and saw my's face so there was obnoxious and saw my's face so there was a room the garage I slept in a in a a room the garage I slept in a in a a room the garage I slept in a in a futon in the garage so I don't count futon in the garage so I don't count futon in the garage so I don't count that as moving out I did a nor though to that as moving out I did a nor though to that as moving out I did a nor though to the outside of it you know what I mean the outside of it you know what I mean the outside of it you know what I mean like I could leave you could Escape I like I could leave you could Escape I like I could leave you could Escape I could leave without going into the house could leave without going into the house could leave without going into the house I'm just saying it was a separate garage I'm just saying it was a separate garage I'm just saying it was a separate garage it was a physically separate building it was a physically separate building it was a physically separate building but I mean to the extent that you're but I mean to the extent that you're but I mean to the extent that you're still having all your meals LA still having all your meals LA still having all your meals LA right like idea of like staying until right like idea of like staying until right like idea of like staying until you get married and like living at home you get married and like living at home you get married and like living at home till 30 which is now apparently becoming till 30 which is now apparently becoming till 30 which is now apparently becoming a thing because the the rent is too high a thing because the the rent is too high a thing because the the rent is too high right right well I mean what with Co and right right well I mean what with Co and right right well I mean what with Co and the economy I'm sure that's a whole the economy I'm sure that's a whole the economy I'm sure that's a whole different thing but I mean when when I different thing but I mean when when I different thing but I mean when when I was growing up yeah you know you you was growing up yeah you know you you was growing up yeah you know you you left home because you went to University left home because you went to University left home because you went to University or in my case I came to a foreign or in my case I came to a foreign or in my case I came to a foreign country went to study overseas um or you country went to study overseas um or you country went to study overseas um or you got married you know those were really got married you know those were really got married you know those were really the the the only options this idea that the the the only options this idea that the the the only options this idea that you could be like Oh I'm 19 now I'm you could be like Oh I'm 19 now I'm you could be like Oh I'm 19 now I'm going to find my own apartment it was going to find my own apartment it was going to find my own apartment it was cost prohibitive and who's going to cost prohibitive and who's going to cost prohibitive and who's going to watch the the younger babies while watch the the younger babies while watch the the younger babies while you're gone if you decide to live alone you're gone if you decide to live alone you're gone if you decide to live alone so again thinking about more than just so again thinking about more than just so again thinking about more than just yourself hey if I leave what happens to yourself hey if I leave what happens to yourself hey if I leave what happens to Mom and the kids you know then Mom has Mom and the kids you know then Mom has Mom and the kids you know then Mom has to do all the laundry the cooking the

  7. to do all the laundry the cooking the to do all the laundry the cooking the dishes watch the kids right whereas if dishes watch the kids right whereas if dishes watch the kids right whereas if I'm here I'm I'm also part of the help I I'm here I'm I'm also part of the help I I'm here I'm I'm also part of the help I can be part of the collective that helps can be part of the collective that helps can be part of the collective that helps raise the children and all them stuff so raise the children and all them stuff so raise the children and all them stuff so how is this though possible to be how is this though possible to be how is this though possible to be married for 25 years and not find this married for 25 years and not find this married for 25 years and not find this to be like an incompatible thing because to be like an incompatible thing because to be like an incompatible thing because there's all kinds of irreconcilable there's all kinds of irreconcilable there's all kinds of irreconcilable differences that cause people to say differences that cause people to say differences that cause people to say yeah this this HS and I'll Circle back yeah this this HS and I'll Circle back yeah this this HS and I'll Circle back to the beginning I am a saint and and to the beginning I am a saint and and to the beginning I am a saint and and humble too so mean so uh well I think humble too so mean so uh well I think humble too so mean so uh well I think you know honestly it it is just a little you know honestly it it is just a little you know honestly it it is just a little give and take right and you've endured give and take right and you've endured give and take right and you've endured with a lot of stuff I mean endured you with a lot of stuff I mean endured you with a lot of stuff I mean endured you persevered focus on enduring yeah no but persevered focus on enduring yeah no but persevered focus on enduring yeah no but I think the one of the things I think we I think the one of the things I think we I think the one of the things I think we said this before I don't know I can't said this before I don't know I can't said this before I don't know I can't tell how many times we've you've been on tell how many times we've you've been on tell how many times we've you've been on the show a couple times but like do you the show a couple times but like do you the show a couple times but like do you remember I think there's three or four remember I think there's three or four remember I think there's three or four things we talked about early on and one things we talked about early on and one things we talked about early on and one of them was okay before the boys existed of them was okay before the boys existed of them was okay before the boys existed right you and I are married we're you right you and I are married we're you right you and I are married we're you know 20s and we're like we're on the know 20s and we're like we're on the know 20s and we're like we're on the same side remember that conversation same side remember that conversation same side remember that conversation like no matter what right if something like no matter what right if something like no matter what right if something comes up and maybe you think that I did comes up and maybe you think that I did comes up and maybe you think that I did something dumb or you make a mistake or something dumb or you make a mistake or something dumb or you make a mistake or I make a mistake presume that we're on I make a mistake presume that we're on I make a mistake presume that we're on the same side and it was done with the same side and it was done with the same side and it was done with positivity yeah rather than positivity yeah rather than positivity yeah rather than assuming and I think that was a big yeah assuming and I think that was a big yeah assuming and I think that was a big yeah I there's like three or four things like I there's like three or four things like I there's like three or four things like that that's one of them I always stop that that's one of them I always stop that that's one of them I always stop one one of the things we didn't say that one one of the things we didn't say that one one of the things we didn't say that at the time but one of the sayings that at the time but one of the sayings that at the time but one of the sayings that you've gotten in The Last 5 Years which you've gotten in The Last 5 Years which you've gotten in The Last 5 Years which I like is don't attribute to malice what I like is don't attribute to malice what I like is don't attribute to malice what is incompetence you're extremely is incompetence you're extremely is incompetence you're extremely incompetent so so we just assume that I

  8. incompetent so so we just assume that I incompetent so so we just assume that I have no idea what I'm doing there goes have no idea what I'm doing there goes have no idea what I'm doing there goes happy marriage buing hin is is an idiot happy marriage buing hin is is an idiot happy marriage buing hin is is an idiot that's right like like there's all kinds that's right like like there's all kinds that's right like like there's all kinds of random weird stuff that can happen of random weird stuff that can happen of random weird stuff that can happen that would cause someone to go like that would cause someone to go like that would cause someone to go like what's that text message who's that what's that text message who's that what's that text message who's that person what's that like what what's person what's that like what what's person what's that like what what's going on what are you doing on social going on what are you doing on social going on what are you doing on social media like any one of those things where media like any one of those things where media like any one of those things where you could go but if you assume best you could go but if you assume best you could go but if you assume best intentions Yeah well yeah I mean look intentions Yeah well yeah I mean look intentions Yeah well yeah I mean look you travel less so now of course after you travel less so now of course after you travel less so now of course after Co but before you used to travel what I Co but before you used to travel what I Co but before you used to travel what I thought was a lot you know and there's thought was a lot you know and there's thought was a lot you know and there's inherent in that right is trust do I inherent in that right is trust do I inherent in that right is trust do I trust you to not have a second family trust you to not have a second family trust you to not have a second family out there and finalize we've got you out there and finalize we've got you out there and finalize we've got you know another wife another family other know another wife another family other know another wife another family other kids or whatever I need to make a call kids or whatever I need to make a call kids or whatever I need to make a call yeah not as funny as I yeah not as funny as I yeah not as funny as I thing um and then when you you know you thing um and then when you you know you thing um and then when you you know you leave meet with the boys it's it's leave meet with the boys it's it's leave meet with the boys it's it's always like okay you know for a few days always like okay you know for a few days always like okay you know for a few days frce is like but when you're by yourself frce is like but when you're by yourself frce is like but when you're by yourself and you're taking care of the kids for and you're taking care of the kids for and you're taking care of the kids for like two days that could be an eternity like two days that could be an eternity like two days that could be an eternity you know I right I'm just saying I you know I right I'm just saying I you know I right I'm just saying I wasn't gone for months at a time no I'm wasn't gone for months at a time no I'm wasn't gone for months at a time no I'm not like on the oil well yeah no not like on the oil well yeah no not like on the oil well yeah no thankfully I mean that's that's got to thankfully I mean that's that's got to thankfully I mean that's that's got to be hard is that yeah that that are you be hard is that yeah that that are you be hard is that yeah that that are you know somebody is serving overing exact know somebody is serving overing exact know somebody is serving overing exact and then then you've got a spouse that's and then then you've got a spouse that's and then then you've got a spouse that's lived with the kids or whatever yeah lived with the kids or whatever yeah lived with the kids or whatever yeah it's tough it's tough so even for those it's tough it's tough so even for those it's tough it's tough so even for those few days I mean it it was it felt like few days I mean it it was it felt like few days I mean it it was it felt like lot especially when they're younger you lot especially when they're younger you lot especially when they're younger you know or that when they become teenagers know or that when they become teenagers know or that when they become teenagers and assaulting then you're just like I'm and assaulting then you're just like I'm and assaulting then you're just like I'm trying to think about like you said when trying to think about like you said when trying to think about like you said when they're younger and then while they're they're younger and then while they're they're younger and then while they're older like there's really no good it's older like there's really no good it's older like there's really no good it's no good time yeah well and then that no good time yeah well and then that no good time yeah well and then that brings me to the next question which is brings me to the next question which is brings me to the next question which is that now the older uh we'll call him Z

  9. that now the older uh we'll call him Z that now the older uh we'll call him Z has moved out uh quote unquote moved out has moved out uh quote unquote moved out has moved out uh quote unquote moved out in the sense that he's now in a dorm at in the sense that he's now in a dorm at in the sense that he's now in a dorm at a university elsewhere hundreds of miles a university elsewhere hundreds of miles a university elsewhere hundreds of miles away that empty nest thing is that away that empty nest thing is that away that empty nest thing is that starting to hit you the idea that like starting to hit you the idea that like starting to hit you the idea that like that te the younger one is only here for that te the younger one is only here for that te the younger one is only here for another year and a half yeah it's like another year and a half yeah it's like another year and a half yeah it's like 68 weeks or something like that I love 68 weeks or something like that I love 68 weeks or something like that I love that you're counting no I don't that you're counting no I don't that you're counting no I don't definitely I'm just saying like that definitely I'm just saying like that definitely I'm just saying like that kind of stuff was starting to freak me kind of stuff was starting to freak me kind of stuff was starting to freak me out and then we have to go and figure out and then we have to go and figure out and then we have to go and figure out uh who we are again yeah it's it's out uh who we are again yeah it's it's out uh who we are again yeah it's it's hard right like when you when you think hard right like when you when you think hard right like when you when you think about you when you're in the day-to-day about you when you're in the day-to-day about you when you're in the day-to-day you hear people saying it goes fast it you hear people saying it goes fast it you hear people saying it goes fast it goes fast and I've got co-workers who goes fast and I've got co-workers who goes fast and I've got co-workers who one of them's going to two-year-old and one of them's going to two-year-old and one of them's going to two-year-old and then another one's going to a 5-year-old then another one's going to a 5-year-old then another one's going to a 5-year-old and so on and so forth and you think to and so on and so forth and you think to and so on and so forth and you think to yourself it's like you I remember when yourself it's like you I remember when yourself it's like you I remember when our boys were two and four and then I our boys were two and four and then I our boys were two and four and then I would love nothing more than to like go would love nothing more than to like go would love nothing more than to like go to the mall with a 2-year-old right now to the mall with a 2-year-old right now to the mall with a 2-year-old right now and like hold their hand yeah yeah would and like hold their hand yeah yeah would and like hold their hand yeah yeah would be the best yeah because now you know in be the best yeah because now you know in be the best yeah because now you know in our household everybody's driving you our household everybody's driving you our household everybody's driving you know so it's it's real effort to be like know so it's it's real effort to be like know so it's it's real effort to be like okay guys you know I mean one is it's at okay guys you know I mean one is it's at okay guys you know I mean one is it's at College even he's not even physically College even he's not even physically College even he's not even physically here so the few days that he is here to here so the few days that he is here to here so the few days that he is here to try to get us together that's so like I try to get us together that's so like I try to get us together that's so like I really enjoy that a lot the the four of really enjoy that a lot the the four of really enjoy that a lot the the four of us having a meal together and those days us having a meal together and those days us having a meal together and those days are so few and far between so it it's are so few and far between so it it's are so few and far between so it it's tough but my my question for you um tough but my my question for you um tough but my my question for you um talking about almost empty n is how is talking about almost empty n is how is talking about almost empty n is how is Raising Z came back for instance and Raising Z came back for instance and Raising Z came back for instance and then he was was going to go out and then he was was going to go out and then he was was going to go out and handang out with his friends and was handang out with his friends and was handang out with his friends and was gone for a while how is that Dynamic gone for a while how is that Dynamic gone for a while how is that Dynamic when he's come back what's your role as when he's come back what's your role as when he's come back what's your role as a parent to that child that's been on a parent to that child that's been on a parent to that child that's been on campus and been away and then comes back

  10. campus and been away and then comes back campus and been away and then comes back I need to have my mom on the show I need to have my mom on the show I need to have my mom on the show sometime because she has some some sometime because she has some some sometime because she has some some phrases some sayings it's funny how like phrases some sayings it's funny how like phrases some sayings it's funny how like there's a tape we called them tapes in there's a tape we called them tapes in there's a tape we called them tapes in the 80s right you like the repeated the 80s right you like the repeated the 80s right you like the repeated cassettes that run in your head and cassettes that run in your head and cassettes that run in your head and I would say something like oh so and so I would say something like oh so and so I would say something like oh so and so is super selfish or whatever and my mom is super selfish or whatever and my mom is super selfish or whatever and my mom would say yes they are that's exactly would say yes they are that's exactly would say yes they are that's exactly what they're supposed to do now that what they're supposed to do now that what they're supposed to do now that doesn't excuse it that doesn't say a doesn't excuse it that doesn't say a doesn't excuse it that doesn't say a selfish 19-year-old is a bad thing I'm selfish 19-year-old is a bad thing I'm selfish 19-year-old is a bad thing I'm not but and it doesn't mean you not but and it doesn't mean you not but and it doesn't mean you shouldn't pressure them gently and push shouldn't pressure them gently and push shouldn't pressure them gently and push them towards being more magnanimous them towards being more magnanimous them towards being more magnanimous being more thoughtful but given where being more thoughtful but given where being more thoughtful but given where the brain is at 17 given where the brain the brain is at 17 given where the brain the brain is at 17 given where the brain is at 19 it is totally reasonable and is at 19 it is totally reasonable and is at 19 it is totally reasonable and normal for a kid to come back from normal for a kid to come back from normal for a kid to come back from college drop his laundry off and take college drop his laundry off and take college drop his laundry off and take off and run off with his other friend it off and run off with his other friend it off and run off with his other friend it doesn't mean that we need to we can't doesn't mean that we need to we can't doesn't mean that we need to we can't mourn it and say dude come back you want mourn it and say dude come back you want mourn it and say dude come back you want to have a heal we haven't seen you but to have a heal we haven't seen you but to have a heal we haven't seen you but it's also normal and my mom very often it's also normal and my mom very often it's also normal and my mom very often would say that like yes you're a would say that like yes you're a would say that like yes you're a horrible selfish teenager and that's horrible selfish teenager and that's horrible selfish teenager and that's normal yeah uh so like sometimes when I normal yeah uh so like sometimes when I normal yeah uh so like sometimes when I say that I feel like you think I'm say that I feel like you think I'm say that I feel like you think I'm forgiving it or I'm saying it doesn't forgiving it or I'm saying it doesn't forgiving it or I'm saying it doesn't matter you know that I I'm acknowledging matter you know that I I'm acknowledging matter you know that I I'm acknowledging that it is both frustrating but it is that it is both frustrating but it is that it is both frustrating but it is also developmentally normal also developmentally normal also developmentally normal yeah I mean and and again circling back yeah I mean and and again circling back yeah I mean and and again circling back to that priority of I mean when my to that priority of I mean when my to that priority of I mean when my sister and I talk when we were growing sister and I talk when we were growing sister and I talk when we were growing up there was a heavy emphasis on respect up there was a heavy emphasis on respect up there was a heavy emphasis on respect so my tolerance for salty teens who sort so my tolerance for salty teens who sort so my tolerance for salty teens who sort of want to mouth off to me is not as of want to mouth off to me is not as of want to mouth off to me is not as great as yours I think that's been one

  11. great as yours I think that's been one great as yours I think that's been one of the issues that we've had to work on of the issues that we've had to work on of the issues that we've had to work on as a couple it's you know I I'm just I'm as a couple it's you know I I'm just I'm as a couple it's you know I I'm just I'm done I mean you you know what it's been done I mean you you know what it's been done I mean you you know what it's been interesting you're having an issue say interesting you're having an issue say interesting you're having an issue say you had a bad day or you thought you you had a bad day or you thought you you had a bad day or you thought you study for a test and then you didn't do study for a test and then you didn't do study for a test and then you didn't do well on the test and then you come home well on the test and then you come home well on the test and then you come home and you are obviously frustrated right and you are obviously frustrated right and you are obviously frustrated right um still I I don't care freaking show me um still I I don't care freaking show me um still I I don't care freaking show me respect you know I am your mother and I respect you know I am your mother and I respect you know I am your mother and I I worked hard to bring you into this I worked hard to bring you into this I worked hard to bring you into this world and we sacrificed a lot to get you world and we sacrificed a lot to get you world and we sacrificed a lot to get you where you are when you talk to me you where you are when you talk to me you where you are when you talk to me you will show me respect whereas you on the will show me respect whereas you on the will show me respect whereas you on the other hand I feel are a lot more and so other hand I feel are a lot more and so other hand I feel are a lot more and so I'm not compassionate I mean I don't I'm not compassionate I mean I don't I'm not compassionate I mean I don't yeah I'm just saying like someone is yeah I'm just saying like someone is yeah I'm just saying like someone is listening like wow she's mean not at all listening like wow she's mean not at all listening like wow she's mean not at all they're saying she's disciplined look they're saying she's disciplined look they're saying she's disciplined look how well she's done in her life because how well she's done in her life because how well she's done in her life because of that I if I I keep coming back to the of that I if I I keep coming back to the of that I if I I keep coming back to the idea that the kid is not an adult right idea that the kid is not an adult right idea that the kid is not an adult right and I have facilities and spoons right and I have facilities and spoons right and I have facilities and spoons right to use the spoons the he con far more to use the spoons the he con far more to use the spoons the he con far more than they do correct the idea that like than they do correct the idea that like than they do correct the idea that like a kid comes when he mouths off like the a kid comes when he mouths off like the a kid comes when he mouths off like the 1950s you slap the kid that's bad to be 1950s you slap the kid that's bad to be 1950s you slap the kid that's bad to be clear that's bad and you might say with clear that's bad and you might say with clear that's bad and you might say with a uh a Zab you know uh uh upbringing a uh a Zab you know uh uh upbringing a uh a Zab you know uh uh upbringing you'd be like you will not speak to me you'd be like you will not speak to me you'd be like you will not speak to me like there could be a moment there we like there could be a moment there we like there could be a moment there we blow up but I grew up in the like in the blow up but I grew up in the like in the blow up but I grew up in the like in the squishy warm fuzzies cold prickly kind squishy warm fuzzies cold prickly kind squishy warm fuzzies cold prickly kind of ' 80s where it's like huh wonder of ' 80s where it's like huh wonder of ' 80s where it's like huh wonder what's really what's really what's really underneath what theout the thing so I underneath what theout the thing so I underneath what theout the thing so I think I think they call that now gentle think I think they call that now gentle think I think they call that now gentle parenting where you know the argument of

  12. parenting where you know the argument of parenting where you know the argument of like my mom was mean to me and I grew up like my mom was mean to me and I grew up like my mom was mean to me and I grew up fine you know or my dad broke the spoon fine you know or my dad broke the spoon fine you know or my dad broke the spoon in my butt and I grew up fine I grew up in my butt and I grew up fine I grew up in my butt and I grew up fine I grew up with very squishy West Coast parents with very squishy West Coast parents with very squishy West Coast parents that read all the psychology books and that read all the psychology books and that read all the psychology books and then tried them out on me that afternoon then tried them out on me that afternoon then tried them out on me that afternoon you know what I mean so I am I am uh you know what I mean so I am I am uh you know what I mean so I am I am uh shockingly trauma-free shockingly trauma-free shockingly trauma-free shockingly and I have a huge amount of shockingly and I have a huge amount of shockingly and I have a huge amount of like I'm very Mr Rogers with the kids like I'm very Mr Rogers with the kids like I'm very Mr Rogers with the kids and you you actually mock my Mr Rogers and you you actually mock my Mr Rogers and you you actually mock my Mr Rogers Behavior because you'll be like hey Behavior because you'll be like hey Behavior because you'll be like hey buddy what's going on why why you act buddy what's going on why why you act buddy what's going on why why you act like like and it's like you think I'm like like and it's like you think I'm like like and it's like you think I'm giving them too much quarter when it's giving them too much quarter when it's giving them too much quarter when it's like dude don't talk like that that's like dude don't talk like that that's like dude don't talk like that that's disrespect respectful but I really want disrespect respectful but I really want disrespect respectful but I really want to understand the root cause yeah I mean to understand the root cause yeah I mean to understand the root cause yeah I mean I I I think though like anything else I I I think though like anything else I I I think though like anything else right it's in moderation correct exactly right it's in moderation correct exactly right it's in moderation correct exactly if if and we're very fortunate when I if if and we're very fortunate when I if if and we're very fortunate when I when we talk about our kids being mouthy when we talk about our kids being mouthy when we talk about our kids being mouthy in our particular context they are just in our particular context they are just in our particular context they are just they don't you know they're not dropping they don't you know they're not dropping they don't you know they're not dropping F bombs or no but but still it there's a F bombs or no but but still it there's a F bombs or no but but still it there's a tone to them so you can take any word tone to them so you can take any word tone to them so you can take any word that you say but if the tone is wrong that you say but if the tone is wrong that you say but if the tone is wrong it's offensive right and the tone thing it's offensive right and the tone thing it's offensive right and the tone thing sorry go ahead but but I feel in certain sorry go ahead but but I feel in certain sorry go ahead but but I feel in certain context where you you tolerate a lot and context where you you tolerate a lot and context where you you tolerate a lot and my push on that is if they were to talk my push on that is if they were to talk my push on that is if they were to talk to your dad this way would you be as to your dad this way would you be as to your dad this way would you be as comfortable with what they're saying comfortable with what they're saying comfortable with what they're saying right so you substitute what they're right so you substitute what they're right so you substitute what they're saying to you in particular and imagine saying to you in particular and imagine saying to you in particular and imagine they talking to Nana and saying that they talking to Nana and saying that they talking to Nana and saying that kind of stuff would you sit there and be kind of stuff would you sit there and be kind of stuff would you sit there and be like yeah that's okay he had a rough day like yeah that's okay he had a rough day like yeah that's okay he had a rough day or would you at some point say Hey you or would you at some point say Hey you or would you at some point say Hey you do not talk to your grandmother that way

  13. do not talk to your grandmother that way do not talk to your grandmother that way if you're if it's not okay do you just if you're if it's not okay do you just if you're if it's not okay do you just say to your grandmother your grandfather say to your grandmother your grandfather say to your grandmother your grandfather it is not okay for you to say to your it is not okay for you to say to your it is not okay for you to say to your mother and I don't when they walk in mother and I don't when they walk in mother and I don't when they walk in through the door be like hey don't be no through the door be like hey don't be no through the door be like hey don't be no I mean I try to give them some quarter I mean I try to give them some quarter I mean I try to give them some quarter but I absolutely agree that my tolerance but I absolutely agree that my tolerance but I absolutely agree that my tolerance for for nonsense is it's not as no I for for nonsense is it's not as no I for for nonsense is it's not as no I think the the whole like would you allow think the the whole like would you allow think the the whole like would you allow this to talk like that to your this to talk like that to your this to talk like that to your grandparents or in that Cas my parents grandparents or in that Cas my parents grandparents or in that Cas my parents that's a really interesting question that's a really interesting question that's a really interesting question because effectively I'm saying if because effectively I'm saying if because effectively I'm saying if there's anyone in the world that you can there's anyone in the world that you can there's anyone in the world that you can talk to like this it would be me because talk to like this it would be me because talk to like this it would be me because I'm the one who has the patience I I'm the one who has the patience I I'm the one who has the patience I always imagine uh really thin uh Captain always imagine uh really thin uh Captain always imagine uh really thin uh Captain America in the alleyway getting beat up America in the alleyway getting beat up America in the alleyway getting beat up and he's like I can do this all day like and he's like I can do this all day like and he's like I can do this all day like you know you can be a jerk but I'm never you know you can be a jerk but I'm never you know you can be a jerk but I'm never going to leave you I am here for you I'm going to leave you I am here for you I'm going to leave you I am here for you I'm your dad and you know keep talking it your dad and you know keep talking it your dad and you know keep talking it like water off a but Duck's back I can like water off a but Duck's back I can like water off a but Duck's back I can do this all day and I know that that do this all day and I know that that do this all day and I know that that like that idea that like and yeah the like that idea that like and yeah the like that idea that like and yeah the children are not hurling you know right children are not hurling you know right children are not hurling you know right but you know when they're like like the but you know when they're like like the but you know when they're like like the little one came home today and he hadn't little one came home today and he hadn't little one came home today and he hadn't eaten because he skipped lunch and he eaten because he skipped lunch and he eaten because he skipped lunch and he was salty and um I thought it was an ex was salty and um I thought it was an ex was salty and um I thought it was an ex Improvement because he had made a Improvement because he had made a Improvement because he had made a mistake he didn't didn't eat he came mistake he didn't didn't eat he came mistake he didn't didn't eat he came home salty and I said hey what's going home salty and I said hey what's going home salty and I said hey what's going on and rather than me going and saying on and rather than me going and saying on and rather than me going and saying dude you need to eat like you need to dude you need to eat like you need to dude you need to eat like you need to get your he's like listen I am really get your he's like listen I am really get your he's like listen I am really hangry Y and I just I need to eat hangry Y and I just I need to eat hangry Y and I just I need to eat something and I can't deal with you something and I can't deal with you something and I can't deal with you right now you are welcome for that I right now you are welcome for that I right now you are welcome for that I have I thought that was very that was have I thought that was very that was have I thought that was very that was 100% me I taught him you respectful to 100% me I taught him you respectful to 100% me I taught him you respectful to his dad say please excuse me I built his dad say please excuse me I built his dad say please excuse me I built that child by

  14. that child by that child by BR you can take from that that was a BR you can take from that that was a BR you can take from that that was a that was a pretty good one because he that was a pretty good one because he that was a pretty good one because he was like acknowledging that he was in a was like acknowledging that he was in a was like acknowledging that he was in a bad place I'm not in a good place yeah bad place I'm not in a good place yeah bad place I'm not in a good place yeah but the trick was that you told me was but the trick was that you told me was but the trick was that you told me was like give him the space then and he came like give him the space then and he came like give him the space then and he came back an hour later and he's like I'm back an hour later and he's like I'm back an hour later and he's like I'm sorry yeah no that was a good success sorry yeah no that was a good success sorry yeah no that was a good success absolutely I mean I feel like in the absolutely I mean I feel like in the absolutely I mean I feel like in the past you'd have tried to hug him and past you'd have tried to hug him and past you'd have tried to hug him and then be been in his that is true I would then be been in his that is true I would then be been in his that is true I would do that yeah but back here buddy yeah if do that yeah but back here buddy yeah if do that yeah but back here buddy yeah if somebody's telling me I'm not feeling somebody's telling me I'm not feeling somebody's telling me I'm not feeling okay I need time I respect them give okay I need time I respect them give okay I need time I respect them give your time and but you know again how you your time and but you know again how you your time and but you know again how you I would say though that in the old days I would say though that in the old days I would say though that in the old days you would have been like you'd like you you would have been like you'd like you you would have been like you'd like you know you need to you need you wouldn't know you need to you need you wouldn't know you need to you need you wouldn't have given in that that hour decompress have given in that that hour decompress have given in that that hour decompress I think that hour to decompress isable I think that hour to decompress isable I think that hour to decompress isable and I I I would agree with that that I and I I I would agree with that that I and I I I would agree with that that I also have grown because I would be like also have grown because I would be like also have grown because I would be like man this this is a you problem right you man this this is a you problem right you man this this is a you problem right you choose to eat as a you're 17 you choose to eat as a you're 17 you choose to eat as a you're 17 you skipping lens is definitely a you yeah skipping lens is definitely a you yeah skipping lens is definitely a you yeah you're not going to be what do you need you're not going to be what do you need you're not going to be what do you need me to do text you and be like it's noon me to do text you and be like it's noon me to do text you and be like it's noon have you eaten you know but for me also have you eaten you know but for me also have you eaten you know but for me also the the the beyond that right is these the the the beyond that right is these the the the beyond that right is these kids are basically well one of them's kids are basically well one of them's kids are basically well one of them's out the door literally but it's the out the door literally but it's the out the door literally but it's the people they become once we let go of people they become once we let go of people they become once we let go of them so this is an opportunity for us to them so this is an opportunity for us to them so this is an opportunity for us to try to influence how they're going to try to influence how they're going to try to influence how they're going to Condell F little bit gas that's gas the Condell F little bit gas that's gas the Condell F little bit gas that's gas the last year well it's like are these kids last year well it's like are these kids last year well it's like are these kids baked or not right right you know I'll baked or not right right you know I'll baked or not right right you know I'll tell you though they're not baked tell you though they're not baked tell you though they're not baked because people who know me you know well because people who know me you know well because people who know me you know well hell you were there excuse my French you hell you were there excuse my French you hell you were there excuse my French you were there tell me I'm not I was not were there tell me I'm not I was not were there tell me I'm not I was not better at 35 than I was at 25 like oh better at 35 than I was at 25 like oh better at 35 than I was at 25 like oh yeah you know what I mean so like I yeah you know what I mean so like I yeah you know what I mean so like I wonder like I hope these kids aren't wonder like I hope these kids aren't wonder like I hope these kids aren't baked yeah I mean it's a process right

  15. baked yeah I mean it's a process right baked yeah I mean it's a process right they B I went through lots of versions they B I went through lots of versions they B I went through lots of versions yeah Hanselman Version 9 or whatever on yeah Hanselman Version 9 or whatever on yeah Hanselman Version 9 or whatever on now is way better diet than he was when now is way better diet than he was when now is way better diet than he was when he was 35 which is one of the fights he was 35 which is one of the fights he was 35 which is one of the fights that you and I have had about the change that you and I have had about the change that you and I have had about the change the the change in handlan as opposed to the the change in handlan as opposed to the the change in handlan as opposed to the stable Mo for in yeah you are the the stable Mo for in yeah you are the the stable Mo for in yeah you are the same 100% right so and before I'd be same 100% right so and before I'd be same 100% right so and before I'd be like Ah that's that's so bad can you not like Ah that's that's so bad can you not like Ah that's that's so bad can you not be consistent because from my point of be consistent because from my point of be consistent because from my point of view was I want to know that the person view was I want to know that the person view was I want to know that the person that I'm married to is going to be that I'm married to is going to be that I'm married to is going to be consistently the same right that the consistently the same right that the consistently the same right that the trades I loved about you I do want them trades I loved about you I do want them trades I loved about you I do want them to continue and you'd be like I'm going to continue and you'd be like I'm going to continue and you'd be like I'm going to be a different band next to you I'm to be a different band next to you I'm to be a different band next to you I'm like oh God what am I going to get then like oh God what am I going to get then like oh God what am I going to get then I I like personal improvement though I I like personal improvement though I I like personal improvement though right right but yeah and you you've right right but yeah and you you've right right but yeah and you you've managed to convince me of the value of managed to convince me of the value of managed to convince me of the value of personal Improvement whereas I hope I've personal Improvement whereas I hope I've personal Improvement whereas I hope I've managed to convince you that even when managed to convince you that even when managed to convince you that even when you're improving that the things that you're improving that the things that you're improving that the things that matter to you that make you you should matter to you that make you you should matter to you that make you you should still be fundamental to you and not be still be fundamental to you and not be still be fundamental to you and not be evolving every year you know well I evolving every year you know well I evolving every year you know well I think we agree the Bas the basic like think we agree the Bas the basic like think we agree the Bas the basic like stuff we we we have not wavered on Y at stuff we we we have not wavered on Y at stuff we we we have not wavered on Y at all but um I've become more chill all but um I've become more chill all but um I've become more chill about about about lateness and I become a little more lateness and I become a little more lateness and I become a little more disciplined about being on time a couple disciplined about being on time a couple disciplined about being on time a couple of minutes here uh you know there's of minutes here uh you know there's of minutes here uh you know there's always the temperature problem which is always the temperature problem which is always the temperature problem which is a huge huge is I'm still working on you a huge huge is I'm still working on you a huge huge is I'm still working on you it is so hot in this house right now it is so hot in this house right now it is so hot in this house right now there's no reason for when am I wearing there's no reason for when am I wearing there's no reason for when am I wearing you are wearing actually I'm on a you are wearing actually I'm on a you are wearing actually I'm on a T-shirt and you have on three layers T-shirt and you have on three layers T-shirt and you have on three layers including a fleece yep and it's probably including a fleece yep and it's probably including a fleece yep and it's probably 74 like it's chilly it's like and what 74 like it's chilly it's like and what 74 like it's chilly it's like and what are we going to do after this we're

  16. are we going to do after this we're are we going to do after this we're going to sit by the h fire of course one going to sit by the h fire of course one going to sit by the h fire of course one not fools this I'm going to be on the not fools this I'm going to be on the not fools this I'm going to be on the far away from the fire you're going to far away from the fire you're going to far away from the fire you're going to be blocking the fire right when you try be blocking the fire right when you try be blocking the fire right when you try to escape then I'll drag you back here to escape then I'll drag you back here to escape then I'll drag you back here so crazy I don't know yeah it's too hot so crazy I don't know yeah it's too hot so crazy I don't know yeah it's too hot hey friends in the interest of me hey friends in the interest of me hey friends in the interest of me learning more about Ai and helping you learning more about Ai and helping you learning more about Ai and helping you learn more about AI for the next couple learn more about AI for the next couple learn more about AI for the next couple of episodes we're going to have ler of episodes we're going to have ler of episodes we're going to have ler vandoran from Qualcomm help me vandoran from Qualcomm help me vandoran from Qualcomm help me understand understand understand AI what is an npu and why is it AI what is an npu and why is it AI what is an npu and why is it important today uh so the NPO stands for important today uh so the NPO stands for important today uh so the NPO stands for uh neural processing units and it's uh neural processing units and it's uh neural processing units and it's basically your AI accelerator and so it basically your AI accelerator and so it basically your AI accelerator and so it can execute AI operations these large can execute AI operations these large can execute AI operations these large language models language models language models or all sorts of different generative AI or all sorts of different generative AI or all sorts of different generative AI models in a much more efficient way than models in a much more efficient way than models in a much more efficient way than a CPU or a GPU account so just to give a CPU or a GPU account so just to give a CPU or a GPU account so just to give you an example with Microsoft's recall you an example with Microsoft's recall you an example with Microsoft's recall like you run that continuously in the like you run that continuously in the like you run that continuously in the background running it on an npu takes background running it on an npu takes background running it on an npu takes about 30 minutes of overall life battery about 30 minutes of overall life battery about 30 minutes of overall life battery lifetime if you were to run it on a GPU lifetime if you were to run it on a GPU lifetime if you were to run it on a GPU it would take 6 and a half hours right it would take 6 and a half hours right it would take 6 and a half hours right so it's all about Energy Efficiency very so it's all about Energy Efficiency very so it's all about Energy Efficiency very specifically dedicated to a single task specifically dedicated to a single task specifically dedicated to a single task which is AI in this Cas very cool so I'm which is AI in this Cas very cool so I'm which is AI in this Cas very cool so I'm going to go learn more about npus and going to go learn more about npus and going to go learn more about npus and how they can do things more cheaply from how they can do things more cheaply from how they can do things more cheaply from a battery perspective more efficiently a battery perspective more efficiently a battery perspective more efficiently and why I might want a Snapdragon and why I might want a Snapdragon and why I might want a Snapdragon processor in my next PC exactly thank processor in my next PC exactly thank processor in my next PC exactly thank you and folks can check out more at

  17. you and folks can check out more at you and folks can check out more at qualcomm.com qualcomm.com qualcomm.com /d developer to download those things /d developer to download those things /d developer to download those things and learn more and learn more and learn more today if if you had um a tip for today if if you had um a tip for today if if you had um a tip for something with your 24 years of vast something with your 24 years of vast something with your 24 years of vast experience uh what would you tell experience uh what would you tell experience uh what would you tell somebody who's getting married tomorrow somebody who's getting married tomorrow somebody who's getting married tomorrow my number one tip like the one that I my number one tip like the one that I my number one tip like the one that I will take and that's my like go-to Dad will take and that's my like go-to Dad will take and that's my like go-to Dad tip dad energy whenever I talk to young tip dad energy whenever I talk to young tip dad energy whenever I talk to young people is unspoken expectations breed people is unspoken expectations breed people is unspoken expectations breed resentment it can be as simple as as resentment it can be as simple as as resentment it can be as simple as as lunch like oh you grab lunch for us lunch like oh you grab lunch for us lunch like oh you grab lunch for us great be here at this time are you going great be here at this time are you going great be here at this time are you going to make dinner tonight or am I making to make dinner tonight or am I making to make dinner tonight or am I making dinner tonight and if it's dinner tonight and if it's dinner tonight and if it's unspoken and there's an expectation unspoken and there's an expectation unspoken and there's an expectation where I thought you were making dinner where I thought you were making dinner where I thought you were making dinner and you thought I was dinner and then we and you thought I was dinner and then we and you thought I was dinner and then we resent then one of us resents and it's a resent then one of us resents and it's a resent then one of us resents and it's a tiny resentment 25 years of building tiny resentment 25 years of building tiny resentment 25 years of building resentment becomes a problem so if so resentment becomes a problem so if so resentment becomes a problem so if so the solution is to just say it out loud the solution is to just say it out loud the solution is to just say it out loud right you know like uh you know like right you know like uh you know like right you know like uh you know like when you're whether or not what time when you're whether or not what time when you're whether or not what time which one of us goes to bed for first which one of us goes to bed for first which one of us goes to bed for first right are we going to bed at the same right are we going to bed at the same right are we going to bed at the same time or are we going to watch a movie time or are we going to watch a movie time or are we going to watch a movie all you got to do is say you know I'm all you got to do is say you know I'm all you got to do is say you know I'm hoping for I'm hoping that we'll watch hoping for I'm hoping that we'll watch hoping for I'm hoping that we'll watch the movie and you won't fall asleep but the movie and you won't fall asleep but the movie and you won't fall asleep but if you if I constantly fall asleep and if you if I constantly fall asleep and if you if I constantly fall asleep and then you start to resent me and it's then you start to resent me and it's then you start to resent me and it's like oh man this guy sucks he's always like oh man this guy sucks he's always like oh man this guy sucks he's always falling asleep in my movies y but I falling asleep in my movies y but I falling asleep in my movies y but I watch every Hallmark yeah complaining watch every Hallmark yeah complaining watch every Hallmark yeah complaining every step of the way but you do watch every step of the way but you do watch every step of the way but you do watch it it's Christmas in July baby I'll take it it's Christmas in July baby I'll take it it's Christmas in July baby I'll take it what's your tip what's your tip for it what's your tip what's your tip for it what's your tip what's your tip for the young people is that nothing that's the young people is that nothing that's the young people is that nothing that's a good one yeah took one I mean that I

  18. a good one yeah took one I mean that I a good one yeah took one I mean that I feel like you you took mine which is feel like you you took mine which is feel like you you took mine which is exactly that communicate I hear you that exactly that communicate I hear you that exactly that communicate I hear you that yeah you're right yeah you knew I was yeah you're right yeah you knew I was yeah you're right yeah you knew I was going to ask you silly uh just going to ask you silly uh just going to ask you silly uh just communication I think you said it so communication I think you said it so communication I think you said it so well is um you just you got to talk to well is um you just you got to talk to well is um you just you got to talk to the other person I feel like you are on the other person I feel like you are on the other person I feel like you are on that same team and you just got to check that same team and you just got to check that same team and you just got to check in with each other and make that a in with each other and make that a in with each other and make that a priority I mean I I feel like it's it's priority I mean I I feel like it's it's priority I mean I I feel like it's it's tough for especially parents but any tough for especially parents but any tough for especially parents but any couple in general you know when when couple in general you know when when couple in general you know when when you've got young kids teenagers whatever you've got young kids teenagers whatever you've got young kids teenagers whatever you've got it can be hard to find a time you've got it can be hard to find a time you've got it can be hard to find a time and make that a priority to be like okay and make that a priority to be like okay and make that a priority to be like okay we're going to make this a mo and Scott we're going to make this a mo and Scott we're going to make this a mo and Scott time because a lot of the times um we time because a lot of the times um we time because a lot of the times um we used to have the the date nights a lot used to have the the date nights a lot used to have the the date nights a lot of those times night was great for early of those times night was great for early of those times night was great for early when the big when the kids were young when the big when the kids were young when the big when the kids were young yeah like that was essential and we had yeah like that was essential and we had yeah like that was essential and we had mommy day and daddy day yep that that mommy day and daddy day yep that that mommy day and daddy day yep that that was cool where I would go by myself and was cool where I would go by myself and was cool where I would go by myself and decompress and hang out with my friends decompress and hang out with my friends decompress and hang out with my friends and then the next week would be your and then the next week would be your and then the next week would be your turn to decompress with other the kids turn to decompress with other the kids turn to decompress with other the kids but we still also found time to be but we still also found time to be but we still also found time to be together but even that was hard because together but even that was hard because together but even that was hard because the first half of that date night was the first half of that date night was the first half of that date night was spent on chores and kids as far as okay spent on chores and kids as far as okay spent on chores and kids as far as okay okay so Z is this next week are you okay so Z is this next week are you okay so Z is this next week are you going to be able to drop him off and going to be able to drop him off and going to be able to drop him off and pick him up and you know managing pick him up and you know managing pick him up and you know managing managing the house but pivoting to the managing the house but pivoting to the managing the house but pivoting to the now with the almost empty nester thing I now with the almost empty nester thing I now with the almost empty nester thing I mean I miss that though where again mean I miss that though where again mean I miss that though where again dinner at the dinner table there there dinner at the dinner table there there dinner at the dinner table there there the two boys squabbling with each other the two boys squabbling with each other the two boys squabbling with each other we trying to have a dinner and one we trying to have a dinner and one we trying to have a dinner and one person's off on their own tangent or person's off on their own tangent or person's off on their own tangent or whatever you know but but you miss it whatever you know but but you miss it whatever you know but but you miss it when you don't have it and how crazy is when you don't have it and how crazy is when you don't have it and how crazy is that how much food is left over when one that how much food is left over when one that how much food is left over when one teenage boy is gone all of a sudden yeah teenage boy is gone all of a sudden yeah teenage boy is gone all of a sudden yeah we do have a ton of food look are we are we do have a ton of food look are we are we do have a ton of food look are we are we making more no we're not we're just we making more no we're not we're just we making more no we're not we're just cooking for four but is well the

  19. cooking for four but is well the cooking for four but is well the unspoken expectations plus communication unspoken expectations plus communication unspoken expectations plus communication thing has equaled uh shifting thing has equaled uh shifting thing has equaled uh shifting responsibilities around the house uh responsibilities around the house uh responsibilities around the house uh chores and stuff like we we kind of chores and stuff like we we kind of chores and stuff like we we kind of talked about it but like I've been the talked about it but like I've been the talked about it but like I've been the cooking one and then you took over the cooking one and then you took over the cooking one and then you took over the laundry like we used to collaborate on laundry like we used to collaborate on laundry like we used to collaborate on the laundry and we used to collaborate the laundry and we used to collaborate the laundry and we used to collaborate on the food so you do some laundry I'd on the food so you do some laundry I'd on the food so you do some laundry I'd do some laundry you do some cooking I do do some laundry you do some cooking I do do some laundry you do some cooking I do some cooking right and then somehow in some cooking right and then somehow in some cooking right and then somehow in the last year after the oldest moved out the last year after the oldest moved out the last year after the oldest moved out something shifted you got salty and something shifted you got salty and something shifted you got salty and we're like I don't like well mean the we're like I don't like well mean the we're like I don't like well mean the rice rice is too crispy out like Supply rice rice is too crispy out like Supply rice rice is too crispy out like Supply so I'm cooking primarily as a general so I'm cooking primarily as a general so I'm cooking primarily as a general rule and again taking nothing away from rule and again taking nothing away from rule and again taking nothing away from you right right and then but now and you you right right and then but now and you you right right and then but now and you don't think about that because you don't think about that because you don't think about that because you always told me any meal I didn't have to always told me any meal I didn't have to always told me any meal I didn't have to cook myself delic delicious meal it's cook myself delic delicious meal it's cook myself delic delicious meal it's delicious and thank you so I so I do my delicious and thank you so I so I do my delicious and thank you so I so I do my thing I work from home you know you work thing I work from home you know you work thing I work from home you know you work at the hospital but I work from home and at the hospital but I work from home and at the hospital but I work from home and then by I try to have the food ready then by I try to have the food ready then by I try to have the food ready when you come home from the hospital when you come home from the hospital when you come home from the hospital right and but but then it's but then I right and but but then it's but then I right and but but then it's but then I have now effectively and I I feel bad have now effectively and I I feel bad have now effectively and I I feel bad saying it out loud not thought about saying it out loud not thought about saying it out loud not thought about laundry in cuz you are a horrible person laundry in cuz you are a horrible person laundry in cuz you are a horrible person D I cook I'm D I cook I'm D I cook I'm cooking no know I mean and cooking no know I mean and cooking no know I mean and that's work but shft next year like we that's work but shft next year like we that's work but shft next year like we might we might swap yeah but the point might we might swap yeah but the point might we might swap yeah but the point is it's not like we feel uh it's um is it's not like we feel uh it's um is it's not like we feel uh it's um imbalanced is the point it is not imbalanced is the point it is not imbalanced is the point it is not imbalanced and I feel like if I needed imbalanced and I feel like if I needed imbalanced and I feel like if I needed you to do the laundry or you were had a you to do the laundry or you were had a you to do the laundry or you were had a long meeting and you be like hey can you long meeting and you be like hey can you long meeting and you be like hey can you make dinner tonight you know oh you

  20. make dinner tonight you know oh you make dinner tonight you know oh you would choke down my crispy rice and be would choke down my crispy rice and be would choke down my crispy rice and be like it's delicious well you wouldn't like it's delicious well you wouldn't like it's delicious well you wouldn't say it's delicious off the bag of my say it's delicious off the bag of my say it's delicious off the bag of my goodness relax it's not the bra should goodness relax it's not the bra should goodness relax it's not the bra should be fluff suck be fluff suck be fluff suck heavier um very cool I was going to ask heavier um very cool I was going to ask heavier um very cool I was going to ask you something else what was going to ask you something else what was going to ask you something else what was going to ask you about oh what's next for you when you about oh what's next for you when you about oh what's next for you when when the boys are gone what's what's when the boys are gone what's what's when the boys are gone what's what's Scott hansome going to be working on Scott hansome going to be working on Scott hansome going to be working on well so an well so an well so an EMP I think well like I'm going to be EMP I think well like I'm going to be EMP I think well like I'm going to be giving a talk on AI at the local high giving a talk on AI at the local high giving a talk on AI at the local high school for the school for the school for the teachers uh to make sure that they're teachers uh to make sure that they're teachers uh to make sure that they're educated because like they want to make educated because like they want to make educated because like they want to make sure that the kids are using it sure that the kids are using it sure that the kids are using it appropriate to learn and not using it appropriate to learn and not using it appropriate to learn and not using it inappropriate to cheat and I am thinking inappropriate to cheat and I am thinking inappropriate to cheat and I am thinking that if I were not working full-time I that if I were not working full-time I that if I were not working full-time I think I would have fun I would take think I would have fun I would take think I would have fun I would take classes i' probably take a Spanish thing classes i' probably take a Spanish thing classes i' probably take a Spanish thing to become more fluent in Spanish I take to become more fluent in Spanish I take to become more fluent in Spanish I take like an actual class at the community like an actual class at the community like an actual class at the community college cool cool um I might take a college cool cool um I might take a college cool cool um I might take a class just to get a degree that has class just to get a degree that has class just to get a degree that has nothing to do with anything thing just nothing to do with anything thing just nothing to do with anything thing just like get a Linguistics degree or like get a Linguistics degree or like get a Linguistics degree or something like that um I would probably something like that um I would probably something like that um I would probably get a full-time uh what's the word a a get a full-time uh what's the word a a get a full-time uh what's the word a a coach like a like a life coach not a coach like a like a life coach not a coach like a like a life coach not a life coach only a life coach I got you life coach only a life coach I got you life coach only a life coach I got you for no I mean listen to me I was like a for no I mean listen to me I was like a for no I mean listen to me I was like a six-pack right like like the last gasp six-pack right like like the last gasp six-pack right like like the last gasp before the the before death you know I I before the the before death you know I I before the the before death you know I I think like I get like a like a physical think like I get like a like a physical think like I get like a like a physical coach what do you call him like a coach what do you call him like a coach what do you call him like a fitness person right one of these kids fitness person right one of these kids fitness person right one of these kids at the local gym yeah personal trainer at the local gym yeah personal trainer at the local gym yeah personal trainer uh personal trainer and then I would uh uh personal trainer and then I would uh uh personal trainer and then I would uh like do little startups and stuff in the like do little startups and stuff in the like do little startups and stuff in the sense of like I would coach people I

  21. sense of like I would coach people I sense of like I would coach people I would be I would be a professional old would be I would be a professional old would be I would be a professional old teacher person but I wouldn't have to teacher person but I wouldn't have to teacher person but I wouldn't have to punch a a time card card a time card punch a a time card card a time card punch a a time card card a time card part I don't like well because you have part I don't like well because you have part I don't like well because you have you have a lot to offer and that's the you have a lot to offer and that's the you have a lot to offer and that's the thing with aging I think is that thing with aging I think is that thing with aging I think is that experience that you've lived and have experience that you've lived and have experience that you've lived and have yeah you know your kids are not going to yeah you know your kids are not going to yeah you know your kids are not going to listen to you because they yeah they listen to you because they yeah they listen to you because they yeah they same age and you're Shing like old the same age and you're Shing like old the same age and you're Shing like old the experience you have you're old too man experience you have you're old too man experience you have you're old too man well I look fresh wa you do look fresh well I look fresh wa you do look fresh well I look fresh wa you do look fresh no no i i i me you know what I mean like no no i i i me you know what I mean like no no i i i me you know what I mean like just Mentor people no but I meant more just Mentor people no but I meant more just Mentor people no but I meant more along the lines of you've always been in along the lines of you've always been in along the lines of you've always been in the same field see I had a career change the same field see I had a career change the same field see I had a career change Midway so yes and it's been a decade Midway so yes and it's been a decade Midway so yes and it's been a decade that I've been as a nurse you know so that I've been as a nurse you know so that I've been as a nurse you know so yeah but you're had a whole other career yeah but you're had a whole other career yeah but you're had a whole other career but yeah so I I I pivoted so I wasn't but yeah so I I I pivoted so I wasn't but yeah so I I I pivoted so I wasn't always but you have what 30 years now 32 always but you have what 30 years now 32 always but you have what 30 years now 32 32 even you I was well okay that's a 32 even you I was well okay that's a 32 even you I was well okay that's a good point so there was the idea could I good point so there was the idea could I good point so there was the idea could I still win an still win an still win an Emmy you know what I mean what are your Emmy you know what I mean what are your Emmy you know what I mean what are your thoughts on that I I think that I want thoughts on that I I think that I want thoughts on that I I think that I want to go and do a pilot season that's right to go and do a pilot season that's right to go and do a pilot season that's right cuz I've convinced that Ryan Reynolds cuz I've convinced that Ryan Reynolds cuz I've convinced that Ryan Reynolds has my my career right uh you know and has my my career right uh you know and has my my career right uh you know and my body and my hair but like I feel like my body and my hair but like I feel like my body and my hair but like I feel like maybe I could maybe I could maybe I could do stand up or do a I could be a talk do stand up or do a I could be a talk do stand up or do a I could be a talk show host or something like that yeah show host or something like that yeah show host or something like that yeah but if I didn't have I would just need but if I didn't have I would just need but if I didn't have I would just need health insurance so once I got health health insurance so once I got health health insurance so once I got health insurance I have retirement I get my insurance I have retirement I get my insurance I have retirement I get my 401k right that would be cool just go to 401k right that would be cool just go to 401k right that would be cool just go to La awes and burn out for a couple of La awes and burn out for a couple of La awes and burn out for a couple of years and then come back and say well I years and then come back and say well I years and then come back and say well I tried right I what are you going to do tried right I what are you going to do tried right I what are you going to do you got to try I mean what am I going to you got to try I mean what am I going to you got to try I mean what am I going to do just G to hang out with me and go do just G to hang out with me and go do just G to hang out with me and go good job thumbs up good job thumbs up good job thumbs up um I would like to volunteer you know um I would like to volunteer you know um I would like to volunteer you know I'd like to go back to school at some I'd like to go back to school at some I'd like to go back to school at some point in time again how many times have

  22. point in time again how many times have point in time again how many times have you been to school how degrees learning you been to school how degrees learning you been to school how degrees learning is infinite there's no cab you can't is infinite there's no cab you can't is infinite there's no cab you can't limit me you want to be Dr Mo don't hold limit me you want to be Dr Mo don't hold limit me you want to be Dr Mo don't hold me back you know we've got to have a me back you know we've got to have a me back you know we've got to have a doctor handsome in the family at some doctor handsome in the family at some doctor handsome in the family at some point so you know be a role model for point so you know be a role model for point so you know be a role model for the boys show not it's done but uh the boys show not it's done but uh the boys show not it's done but uh they've got to go to school we're still they've got to go to school we're still they've got to go to school we're still paying that off and get that sorted but paying that off and get that sorted but paying that off and get that sorted but yeah something like then volunteer when yeah something like then volunteer when yeah something like then volunteer when you say volunteer like be more specific you say volunteer like be more specific you say volunteer like be more specific well give back yeah volunteer at at well give back yeah volunteer at at well give back yeah volunteer at at hospitals I mean see you so you work at hospitals I mean see you so you work at hospitals I mean see you so you work at a hospital now for money right now you a hospital now for money right now you a hospital now for money right now you want to quit and work when I retire B want to quit and work when I retire B want to quit and work when I retire B yeah you know give back or travel and be yeah you know give back or travel and be yeah you know give back or travel and be on a boat or whatever you know and be a on a boat or whatever you know and be a on a boat or whatever you know and be a nurse on a boat go go visit London yeah nurse on a boat go go visit London yeah nurse on a boat go go visit London yeah can we get free you could be a cruise a can we get free you could be a cruise a can we get free you could be a cruise a cruise n or whatever and I'll just hang cruise n or whatever and I'll just hang cruise n or whatever and I'll just hang out you just hang out in the boat and out you just hang out in the boat and out you just hang out in the boat and say just say have fre boat or whatever say just say have fre boat or whatever say just say have fre boat or whatever it's called like I don't know free tour it's called like I don't know free tour it's called like I don't know free tour ship when when you say give back you you ship when when you say give back you you ship when when you say give back you you you mean like like like I was talking you mean like like like I was talking you mean like like like I was talking about volunteering like I've been about volunteering like I've been about volunteering like I've been volunteering at Howard and I've been volunteering at Howard and I've been volunteering at Howard and I've been volunteering at this place and that volunteering at this place and that volunteering at this place and that place like different schools I where place like different schools I where place like different schools I where they like the idea of volunteering at they like the idea of volunteering at they like the idea of volunteering at universities and schools oh it get universities and schools oh it get universities and schools oh it get during now I am working fulltime yeah during now I am working fulltime yeah during now I am working fulltime yeah but are you thinking taking the medical but are you thinking taking the medical but are you thinking taking the medical stuff yeah and then that exactly like stuff yeah and then that exactly like stuff yeah and then that exactly like going to third world countries and and going to third world countries and and going to third world countries and and helping them with you know vaccines or helping them with you know vaccines or helping them with you know vaccines or is that what they're called that's well is that what they're called that's well is that what they're called that's well because implying that there's a pecking because implying that there's a pecking because implying that there's a pecking order of the world's oh apparently is order of the world's oh apparently is order of the world's oh apparently is inappropriate I don't know I'm just inappropriate I don't know I'm just inappropriate I don't know I'm just that's what they said well I don't know that's what they said well I don't know that's what they said well I don't know either you're the one who came from an either you're the one who came from an either you're the one who came from an emerging emerging emerging democracy it sounds like you're trying democracy it sounds like you're trying democracy it sounds like you're trying so hard to

  23. so hard to so hard to be I don't know I just don't think you be I don't know I just don't think you be I don't know I just don't think you know there like there's not a first know there like there's not a first know there like there's not a first world and a second world there's just world and a second world there's just world and a second world there's just it's it's gradients well brother okay it's it's gradients well brother okay it's it's gradients well brother okay what do you think you you know how how what do you think you you know how how what do you think you you know how how was your up in the third world country was your up in the third world country was your up in the third world country who am I to say right it's right way to who am I to say right it's right way to who am I to say right it's right way to say who are you to say Hass okay so yeah say who are you to say Hass okay so yeah say who are you to say Hass okay so yeah so you want to volunteer in other world so you want to volunteer in other world so you want to volunteer in other world countries yes uh in less fortunate send countries yes uh in less fortunate send countries yes uh in less fortunate send send letters to her not me that's right send letters to her not me that's right send letters to her not me that's right yes when you start complaining that's yes when you start complaining that's yes when you start complaining that's Hanselman God you know that's yeah but Hanselman God you know that's yeah but Hanselman God you know that's yeah but you know uh we we have worked hard you you know uh we we have worked hard you you know uh we we have worked hard you and I feel like in our lives and we've and I feel like in our lives and we've and I feel like in our lives and we've been to a certain degree successful and been to a certain degree successful and been to a certain degree successful and we're thankful for that and how we're thankful for that and how we're thankful for that and how wonderful would it be to to help others wonderful would it be to to help others wonderful would it be to to help others who are not as fortunate and give either who are not as fortunate and give either who are not as fortunate and give either off our time or our money and send a off our time or our money and send a off our time or our money and send a letter back down you know yeah exactly letter back down you know yeah exactly letter back down you know yeah exactly well you have to explain that that well you have to explain that that well you have to explain that that expression you don't think that's expression you don't think that's expression you don't think that's obvious that's not you you send the obvious that's not you you send the obvious that's not you you send the ladder back down if you're up somewhere ladder back down if you're up somewhere ladder back down if you're up somewhere on top of the thing and then if you on top of the thing and then if you on top of the thing and then if you steal the ladder you pull the ladder steal the ladder you pull the ladder steal the ladder you pull the ladder back up then how is everyone else going back up then how is everyone else going back up then how is everyone else going to get on the roof why are you stealing to get on the roof why are you stealing to get on the roof why are you stealing see this is why you stealing a ladder see this is why you stealing a ladder see this is why you stealing a ladder the ladder is an elevator there's no the ladder is an elevator there's no the ladder is an elevator there's no elevator send the ladder back down like elevator send the ladder back down like elevator send the ladder back down like you've reached the Pinnacle of the thing you've reached the Pinnacle of the thing you've reached the Pinnacle of the thing you're on top of the building you're on you're on top of the building you're on you're on top of the building you're on top of and then you're on the top of the top of and then you're on the top of the top of and then you're on the top of the roof of the house and then you send the roof of the house and then you send the roof of the house and then you send the ladder back down for the next person ladder back down for the next person ladder back down for the next person okay so you've already ruined it it's okay so you've already ruined it it's okay so you've already ruined it it's not a ladder cuz the ladder is leaning not a ladder cuz the ladder is leaning not a ladder cuz the ladder is leaning against the wall against the wall against the wall that there an elev if you get on an on that there an elev if you get on an on that there an elev if you get on an on an elevator and takes you to the top an elevator and takes you to the top an elevator and takes you to the top don't keep it up there remember that

  24. don't keep it up there remember that don't keep it up there remember that others also want to come up so literally others also want to come up so literally others also want to come up so literally never heard that there was there how never heard that there was there how never heard that there was there how does that work with the ladder the does that work with the ladder the does that work with the ladder the ladder is really nobody pulls the ladder ladder is really nobody pulls the ladder ladder is really nobody pulls the ladder up to the roof you will totally pull up to the roof you will totally pull up to the roof you will totally pull ladders back up to prevent people from ladders back up to prevent people from ladders back up to prevent people from getting getting getting there if you this is going to be where there if you this is going to be where there if you this is going to be where we're going to stop the show that's we're going to stop the show that's we're going to stop the show that's right uh send letters right uh send letters right uh send letters to let us know if it's an elevator or a to let us know if it's an elevator or a to let us know if it's an elevator or a ladder yeah that's right uh and and then ladder yeah that's right uh and and then ladder yeah that's right uh and and then let us know whether or not you enjoyed let us know whether or not you enjoyed let us know whether or not you enjoyed this podcast or if you're going to skip this podcast or if you're going to skip this podcast or if you're going to skip this one and go to the next one yeah this one and go to the next one yeah this one and go to the next one yeah what are you doing with your families what are you doing with your families what are you doing with your families and your spouses what what's your and your spouses what what's your and your spouses what what's your household like so yes follow follow me household like so yes follow follow me household like so yes follow follow me on social media and tell me uh my wife on social media and tell me uh my wife on social media and tell me uh my wife is not on social media so any any is not on social media so any any is not on social media so any any comments I will just tell her what you comments I will just tell her what you comments I will just tell her what you all said so send us nice things and all said so send us nice things and all said so send us nice things and thank you B for hanging out my pleasure thank you B for hanging out my pleasure thank you B for hanging out my pleasure gu this is where I'm going to do the gu this is where I'm going to do the gu this is where I'm going to do the ending of the show now you ready this is ending of the show now you ready this is ending of the show now you ready this is radio voice radio voice radio voice this has been another episode of Hansel this has been another episode of Hansel this has been another episode of Hansel minutes and we'll see you again next minutes and we'll see you again next minutes and we'll see you again next week are you clapping week are you clapping week are you clapping Bravo to work Bravo to work Bravo to work [Music] [Music] [Music] a a a [Music]

Summary

The podcast discusses new Text Control document processing library features like footnotes and SVG export. The interview with Scott Hanselman's wife explores the concept of a "mixed marriage," concluding that personality and upbringing differences are more significant than race or culture. The practical takeaway is that focusing on core competencies in development and understanding personal differences leads to stronger relationships.

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