Mark Russinovich and Scott Hanselman "Healthy Debate"

and let me tweet again let's see let's and let me tweet again let's see let's go and tweet this again we are again we are live with Mark I put in mark it said live with Mark I put in mark it said live with Mark I put in mark it said Cuban then it said Ruffalo and then it Cuban then it said Ruffalo and then it Cuban then it said Ruffalo and then it saidov so is it gonna go to my Twitter too that's is it gonna go to my Twitter too that's my goal in life having uh web aut my goal in life having uh web aut my goal in life having uh web aut complete yeah suggest renovich after complete yeah suggest renovich after complete yeah suggest renovich after Mark yeah that would be that's a pretty Mark yeah that would be that's a pretty Mark yeah that would be that's a pretty good goal if you could make that happen good goal if you could make that happen good goal if you could make that happen uh I don't know Mark Ruffalo though is uh I don't know Mark Ruffalo though is uh I don't know Mark Ruffalo though is the Hulk so that would be a pretty that the Hulk so that would be a pretty that the Hulk so that would be a pretty that would be a pretty challenging trick would be a pretty challenging trick would be a pretty challenging trick there are we streaming or I think we're there are we streaming or I think we're there are we streaming or I think we're streaming on YouTube let's make sure streaming on YouTube let's make sure streaming on YouTube let's make sure that we're not there we are we are live that we're not there we are we are live that we're not there we are we are live how do I make sure I'm streaming how do I make sure I'm streaming how do I make sure I'm streaming anywhere else because the whole point I anywhere else because the whole point I anywhere else because the whole point I paid them money to stream everywhere paid them money to stream everywhere paid them money to stream everywhere else I'm gon to go see if I'm live on else I'm gon to go see if I'm live on else I'm gon to go see if I'm live on Tik Tok as Tik Tok as Tik Tok as well I I I literally like paid them and well I I I literally like paid them and well I I I literally like paid them and the whole point was to like stream to the whole point was to like stream to the whole point was to like stream to all the places okay while I figure that out uh places okay while I figure that out uh Mark is just going to continue to do Mark is just going to continue to do Mark is just going to continue to do email because that's his priority right email because that's his priority right email because that's his priority right now that's right yeah not hanging out now that's right yeah not hanging out now that's right yeah not hanging out with me um uh is it is it on my is it on with me um uh is it is it on my is it on with me um uh is it is it on my is it on my LinkedIn there's like a destinations LinkedIn there's like a destinations feature of this tool all right I don't know so I'm going

tool all right I don't know so I'm going to just talk to you all right cool we to just talk to you all right cool we to just talk to you all right cool we are live uh because I'm already some are live uh because I'm already some are live uh because I'm already some such important uh there some very such important uh there some very such important uh there some very disrespectful questions already in the disrespectful questions already in the disrespectful questions already in the chat here uh people are asking about chat here uh people are asking about chat here uh people are asking about your hair routine which I'm taking as a your hair routine which I'm taking as a your hair routine which I'm taking as a personal attack personal attack personal attack uh we're going to start the conversation uh we're going to start the conversation uh we're going to start the conversation right we're going right there need to right we're going right there need to right we're going right there need to know Mark's hair routine no one asked know Mark's hair routine no one asked know Mark's hair routine no one asked for my skin routine no one wants to know for my skin routine no one wants to know for my skin routine no one wants to know about my get ready with me about my get ready with me about my get ready with me plan WR with that someone wanted to know plan WR with that someone wanted to know plan WR with that someone wanted to know if this is really live yes it's really if this is really live yes it's really if this is really live yes it's really live sa so should we start with the hair live sa so should we start with the hair live sa so should we start with the hair routine yeah okay so obvious I think the routine yeah okay so obvious I think the routine yeah okay so obvious I think the point is you have one and I don't what point is you have one and I don't what point is you have one and I don't what yeah I don't have one then you have one yeah I don't have one then you have one yeah I don't have one then you have one what is your hair routine I what is it what is your hair routine I what is it what is your hair routine I what is it Head and Shoulders Head and Shoulders Head and Shoulders shampoo towel shampoo towel shampoo towel dry okay all right and have you ever had dry okay all right and have you ever had dry okay all right and have you ever had braces yes I did I did braces too best braces yes I did I did braces too best braces yes I did I did braces too best decision I ever made like as as an older decision I ever made like as as an older decision I ever made like as as an older person fantastic all right cool so in person fantastic all right cool so in person fantastic all right cool so in the interest of healthy debate there was the interest of healthy debate there was the interest of healthy debate there was a time recently where uh you and I were a time recently where uh you and I were a time recently where uh you and I were on a call and I shared my desktop and on a call and I shared my desktop and on a call and I shared my desktop and you recoiled in horror much like a you recoiled in horror much like a you recoiled in horror much like a vampire seeing a mirror uh you were vampire seeing a mirror uh you were vampire seeing a mirror uh you were offended by what you saw still I'm still offended by what you saw still I'm still offended by what you saw still I'm still affected by it what did you see I affected by it what did you see I affected by it what did you see I saw I I don't know if I could could saw I I don't know if I could could saw I I don't know if I could could describe what I saw I saw a total describe what I saw I saw a total describe what I saw I saw a total mess but I know where everything is I

mess but I know where everything is I mess but I know where everything is I don't know how I don't believe don't know how I don't believe don't know how I don't believe you I it's a it's a folder it's the you I it's a it's a folder it's the you I it's a it's a folder it's the desktop is a folder and it is desktop is a folder and it is desktop is a folder and it is appropriate to have things on your appropriate to have things on your appropriate to have things on your desktop it so even folders people desktop it so even folders people desktop it so even folders people organize they like put things in a organize they like put things in a organize they like put things in a folder that has items that are related folder that has items that are related folder that has items that are related to each other and your desktop is just to each other and your desktop is just to each other and your desktop is just Randomness but but my life is Randomness Randomness but but my life is Randomness Randomness but but my life is Randomness I'm looking at my desktop here and I'm I'm looking at my desktop here and I'm I'm looking at my desktop here and I'm just getting a sense it's not even that just getting a sense it's not even that just getting a sense it's not even that bad we're looking at bad we're looking at bad we're looking at barely barely 15 gigs uh across 23,000 barely barely 15 gigs uh across 23,000 barely barely 15 gigs uh across 23,000 files in in in 300 on your desktop what files in in in 300 on your desktop what files in in in 300 on your desktop what do you have do you have do you have any but it's just random stuff any but it's just random stuff any but it's just random stuff right like it's just you've got folders right like it's just you've got folders right like it's just you've got folders on your desktop too which I had not seen on your desktop too which I had not seen on your desktop too which I had not seen people really do before yeah yeah I have people really do before yeah yeah I have people really do before yeah yeah I have I documents that you I documents that you I documents that you download I do that too so I've got like download I do that too so I've got like download I do that too so I've got like six things on my desktop right now you six things on my desktop right now you six things on my desktop right now you have six things on your desktop okay so have six things on your desktop okay so have six things on your desktop okay so I have like some Network traces from a I have like some Network traces from a I have like some Network traces from a bug that we were doing we were logged bug that we were doing we were logged bug that we were doing we were logged into uh an into uh an into uh an Azure I'll create like I have a temp Azure I'll create like I have a temp Azure I'll create like I have a temp folder okay I'll go put that kind of folder okay I'll go put that kind of folder okay I'll go put that kind of stuff there you have a temp folder on stuff there you have a temp folder on stuff there you have a temp folder on your desktop or just and off my C your desktop or just and off my C your desktop or just and off my C drive see but that's for temp stuff but drive see but that's for temp stuff but drive see but that's for temp stuff but temp your traces are temp you don't care temp your traces are temp you don't care temp your traces are temp you don't care like you use them I might I might need like you use them I might I might need like you use them I might I might need them them them someday really I might need to go back

someday really I might need to go back someday really I might need to go back in there and need them I don't know in there and need them I don't know in there and need them I don't know that's that's that's from few days ago yeah that's I was I from few days ago yeah that's I was I from few days ago yeah that's I was I was on the call with Xbox debugging a was on the call with Xbox debugging a was on the call with Xbox debugging a login issue with Xbox 360 backwards login issue with Xbox 360 backwards login issue with Xbox 360 backwards compat yeah um I've got something uh compat yeah um I've got something uh compat yeah um I've got something uh I've got like old versions of I've got like old versions of I've got like old versions of Doss why on your desktop well because I Doss why on your desktop well because I Doss why on your desktop well because I I think I told you that Ray Aussie sent I think I told you that Ray Aussie sent I think I told you that Ray Aussie sent me some floppy me some floppy me some floppy discs so I've been trying to get these discs so I've been trying to get these discs so I've been trying to get these discs onto you know different um that's discs onto you know different um that's discs onto you know different um that's not answering the question but I might not answering the question but I might not answering the question but I might need them and if I put them in C colon need them and if I put them in C colon need them and if I put them in C colon old discs then no one will ever know I old discs then no one will ever know I old discs then no one will ever know I don't know I don't know I don't know I just I keep my whole life there man just I keep my whole life there man just I keep my whole life there man there everything's on the desktop I there everything's on the desktop I there everything's on the desktop I don't know okay I think we're never don't know okay I think we're never don't know okay I think we're never going to agree on that one but I think going to agree on that one but I think going to agree on that one but I think I'm hearing people are saying the I'm hearing people are saying the I'm hearing people are saying the desktop all day long I see that oh desktop all day long I see that oh desktop all day long I see that oh you're looking at the chat okay so he you're looking at the chat okay so he you're looking at the chat okay so he can see the chat too H this is a this is can see the chat too H this is a this is can see the chat too H this is a this is the this is a bad one I think we're the this is a bad one I think we're the this is a bad one I think we're going to be 50-50 on this one but we may going to be 50-50 on this one but we may going to be 50-50 on this one but we may try to solve this at Microsoft build we try to solve this at Microsoft build we try to solve this at Microsoft build we might need the power of AI to uh might need the power of AI to uh might need the power of AI to uh categorize let's go after this let's categorize let's go after this let's categorize let's go after this let's clean up your desktop okay that'll be a clean up your desktop okay that'll be a clean up your desktop okay that'll be a priority so that'll be that'll be top priority so that'll be that'll be top priority so that'll be that'll be top level priority okay next one uh that is level priority okay next one uh that is level priority okay next one uh that is a controversy that is sweeping the a controversy that is sweeping the a controversy that is sweeping the nation is uh tabs versus spaces people don't people people think about people don't people people think about this stuff this is this is uh someone this stuff this is this is uh someone this stuff this is this is uh someone actually got mad at me on Twitter they actually got mad at me on Twitter they actually got mad at me on Twitter they said that we were gonna they were said that we were gonna they were said that we were gonna they were offended you and I were going to talk

offended you and I were going to talk offended you and I were going to talk about that but if we turn on like Whit space there is none right because it's space there is none right because it's tabs the way God intended tab tab tab tabs the way God intended tab tab tab tabs the way God intended tab tab tab it's pretty straightforward stuff yeah it's pretty straightforward stuff yeah it's pretty straightforward stuff yeah we agree on that I don't guess what I we agree on that I don't guess what I we agree on that I don't guess what I don't care I don't care either because I don't care I don't care either because I don't care I don't care either because I don't see it because it's white space don't see it because it's white space don't see it because it's white space yeah I don't care okay so we're Team it yeah I don't care okay so we're Team it yeah I don't care okay so we're Team it doesn't matter yeah because I've heard doesn't matter yeah because I've heard doesn't matter yeah because I've heard Arguments for accessibility that spaces Arguments for accessibility that spaces Arguments for accessibility that spaces are better than tabs But ultimately it are better than tabs But ultimately it are better than tabs But ultimately it doesn't matter because it's a rendering doesn't matter because it's a rendering doesn't matter because it's a rendering issue issue issue yeah okay I mean it matters to yeah okay I mean it matters to yeah okay I mean it matters to python it does matter to it does matter python it does matter to it does matter python it does matter to it does matter to Guido that is true yeah okay here's a to Guido that is true yeah okay here's a to Guido that is true yeah okay here's a controversy though let's go ahead and controversy though let's go ahead and controversy though let's go ahead and make this real big are you make this real big are you make this real big are you team oops are you team K team oops are you team K team oops are you team K andrc curly braces on the end man this one's a tough one for me end man this one's a tough one for me yeah yeah yeah um because that's my default but I like um because that's my default but I like um because that's my default but I like I kind of like the on the new line yeah I kind of like the on the new line yeah I kind of like the on the new line yeah I I I honestly that one's been tough for I I I honestly that one's been tough for I I I honestly that one's been tough for me as well I I've all I grew up doing me as well I I've all I grew up doing me as well I I've all I grew up doing that yeah I don't have a problem with that yeah I don't have a problem with that yeah I don't have a problem with that I you learn from canr yeah that that I you learn from canr yeah that that I you learn from canr yeah that same here yeah I mean that the the Kern same here yeah I mean that the the Kern same here yeah I mean that the the Kern and Richie like that just makes sense to and Richie like that just makes sense to and Richie like that just makes sense to me and of course you get with vs code if me and of course you get with vs code if me and of course you get with vs code if I select that it's going to light up

I select that it's going to light up I select that it's going to light up down here so you can see that it's it's down here so you can see that it's it's down here so you can see that it's it's it's lit up telling me that they're it's lit up telling me that they're it's lit up telling me that they're related and they're colored now so we related and they're colored now so we related and they're colored now so we can can can see that help but just but like that uh see that help but just but like that uh see that help but just but like that uh what you got yeah that just is a nice what you got yeah that just is a nice what you got yeah that just is a nice nice you can very clearly see the open nice you can very clearly see the open nice you can very clearly see the open and close matching this and close matching this and close matching this yeah someone in the chat says that they yeah someone in the chat says that they yeah someone in the chat says that they try to be idiomatic in the language and try to be idiomatic in the language and try to be idiomatic in the language and I would argue that it depends but I I would argue that it depends but I I would argue that it depends but I think that for C I would argue for C and think that for C I would argue for C and think that for C I would argue for C and C++ I do tend to be a little bit more C++ I do tend to be a little bit more C++ I do tend to be a little bit more canr yeah and then for for C sharp I canr yeah and then for for C sharp I canr yeah and then for for C sharp I would tend to do it a little bit more would tend to do it a little bit more would tend to do it a little bit more like this so that's a tough like this so that's a tough like this so that's a tough one okay people are uh people are upset one okay people are uh people are upset one okay people are uh people are upset okay what about semicolons if you don't okay what about semicolons if you don't okay what about semicolons if you don't need the need the need the semicolon in JavaScript they're a little semicolon in JavaScript they're a little semicolon in JavaScript they're a little bit YOLO with the semicolon bit YOLO with the semicolon bit YOLO with the semicolon I'd prefer to be consistent yeah I like I'd prefer to be consistent yeah I like I'd prefer to be consistent yeah I like AIC at the end we're agreeing on all of these end we're agreeing on all of these things bad this is bad all right here's things bad this is bad all right here's things bad this is bad all right here's one yeah you are boring it's true um one yeah you are boring it's true um one yeah you are boring it's true um what about the whole light mode what about the whole light mode what about the whole light mode thing yeah this one actually I thing yeah this one actually I thing yeah this one actually I originally resisted dark mode yeah I did originally resisted dark mode yeah I did originally resisted dark mode yeah I did too I resisted it for a very long time too I resisted it for a very long time too I resisted it for a very long time yeah me too because uh Visual Studio big yeah me too because uh Visual Studio big yeah me too because uh Visual Studio big Visual Studio I grew up on light mode Visual Studio I grew up on light mode Visual Studio I grew up on light mode yep uh interestingly I grew up on dark yep uh interestingly I grew up on dark yep uh interestingly I grew up on dark mode and emac which we're gonna get mode and emac which we're gonna get mode and emac which we're gonna get really yeah really yeah really yeah really what about some of these weird

really what about some of these weird really what about some of these weird ones I see people doing stuff like this ones I see people doing stuff like this ones I see people doing stuff like this no that's just yeah we can't accept that no that's just yeah we can't accept that no that's just yeah we can't accept that no okay so what I did is if you go to no okay so what I did is if you go to no okay so what I did is if you go to yon theme.com yon theme.com yon theme.com my my my friend yeah made a queen queen Be friend yeah made a queen queen Be friend yeah made a queen queen Be Inspired theme so this is all Beyonce Inspired theme so this is all Beyonce Inspired theme so this is all Beyonce theme yeah lovely I can't say anything theme yeah lovely I can't say anything theme yeah lovely I can't say anything about it about it about it because the Army will destroy me so no because the Army will destroy me so no because the Army will destroy me so no if you say anything about that the Beany if you say anything about that the Beany if you say anything about that the Beany yeah will come for you so we love that yeah will come for you so we love that yeah will come for you so we love that yeah okay so we we're feeling that dark yeah okay so we we're feeling that dark yeah okay so we we're feeling that dark mode and you do dark mode for your for mode and you do dark mode for your for mode and you do dark mode for your for your windows as well not just your like your windows as well not just your like your windows as well not just your like for everything no I'm light everywhere for everything no I'm light everywhere for everything no I'm light everywhere else just really coding yeah that's a else just really coding yeah that's a else just really coding yeah that's a controversial take so you're when you controversial take so you're when you controversial take so you're when you open Explorer that's a shock of of white open Explorer that's a shock of of white open Explorer that's a shock of of white yeah I'm white everywhere else oh my yeah I'm white everywhere else oh my yeah I'm white everywhere else oh my goodness I have about that and I goodness I have about that and I goodness I have about that and I actually switched vs code to light a few actually switched vs code to light a few actually switched vs code to light a few weeks weeks weeks ago and tried it for a few days yeah ago and tried it for a few days yeah ago and tried it for a few days yeah how'd that go then you know I decided to how'd that go then you know I decided to how'd that go then you know I decided to go back it's just I find actually with go back it's just I find actually with go back it's just I find actually with dark mode it's more dark mode it's more dark mode it's more readable H inter oh that's a good point readable H inter oh that's a good point readable H inter oh that's a good point speaking of readable what font do you speaking of readable what font do you speaking of readable what font do you use whatever the default is oh really use whatever the default is oh really use whatever the default is oh really you're not like a a Gourmand you're not you're not like a a Gourmand you're not you're not like a a Gourmand you're not a SoMo a font SoMo which vintage do you prefer okay so SoMo which vintage do you prefer okay so I do I go to nerd fonts.com

I do I go to nerd fonts.com I do I go to nerd fonts.com where you can go and learn about all where you can go and learn about all where you can go and learn about all your different your different your different fonts and decide like how a zero should fonts and decide like how a zero should fonts and decide like how a zero should be versus an O I like that distin is be versus an O I like that distin is be versus an O I like that distin is that nice look at that g that that nice look at that g that that nice look at that g that beautiful right so then I go into visual beautiful right so then I go into visual beautiful right so then I go into visual I go into Windows terminal and in this I go into Windows terminal and in this I go into Windows terminal and in this case here I've actually custom built the case here I've actually custom built the case here I've actually custom built the nerd font myself I've got details in my nerd font myself I've got details in my nerd font myself I've got details in my blog but then I started we just released blog but then I started we just released blog but then I started we just released Cascadia code Cascadia code Cascadia code NF and NF includes additional Unicode NF and NF includes additional Unicode NF and NF includes additional Unicode code points to do stuff like this so if code points to do stuff like this so if code points to do stuff like this so if we go to my we go to my we go to my terminal uh down here and we go to like terminal uh down here and we go to like terminal uh down here and we go to like there I've got you know my current there I've got you know my current there I've got you know my current folder that's my blood sugar no I like folder that's my blood sugar no I like folder that's my blood sugar no I like that yeah isn't that nice and then this that yeah isn't that nice and then this that yeah isn't that nice and then this is how a zero looks in that is how a zero looks in that is how a zero looks in that world yeah not bad yeah that's Cascadia world yeah not bad yeah that's Cascadia world yeah not bad yeah that's Cascadia code nerd font okay so then if we go code nerd font okay so then if we go code nerd font okay so then if we go from font rendering in color then what from font rendering in color then what from font rendering in color then what about about about ligatures have you ever gotten into team ligatures have you ever gotten into team ligatures have you ever gotten into team ligature no have you ever you know you ligature no have you ever you know you ligature no have you ever you know you know what those are right though no oh know what those are right though no oh know what those are right though no oh this is good okay let's do that so we go this is good okay let's do that so we go this is good okay let's do that so we go into preferences let me see here I into preferences let me see here I into preferences let me see here I always forget how to do this settings always forget how to do this settings always forget how to do this settings here we go ligature uh edit configure Mark lures

ligature uh edit configure Mark lures okay and you going you go to visual okay and you going you go to visual okay and you going you go to visual studio code you say font ligature is studio code you say font ligature is studio code you say font ligature is true and you need a ligature friendly work no let's try it over here oh it's work no let's try it over here oh it's supposed to turn into a nice Arrow yeah supposed to turn into a nice Arrow yeah supposed to turn into a nice Arrow yeah it's supposed to turn into a funky arrow it's supposed to turn into a funky arrow it's supposed to turn into a funky arrow and that freaks people and that freaks people and that freaks people out yeah that's a Crossing streams out yeah that's a Crossing streams out yeah that's a Crossing streams really for so for you that's just like really for so for you that's just like really for so for you that's just like it's not telling you what reality is and it's not telling you what reality is and it's not telling you what reality is and that's that's a bridge too far exactly that's that's a bridge too far exactly that's that's a bridge too far exactly yeah yeah I don't know why that one's yeah yeah I don't know why that one's yeah yeah I don't know why that one's not working let me go try it over here not working let me go try it over here not working let me go try it over here yeah this isn't a a a Word document it's yeah this isn't a a a Word document it's yeah this isn't a a a Word document it's a yeah there you go there's an example a yeah there you go there's an example a yeah there you go there's an example yeah that's a challenge so if we go over yeah that's a challenge so if we go over yeah that's a challenge so if we go over here boom here boom here boom boom too much yeah too much how about boom too much yeah too much how about boom too much yeah too much how about this ready for this look at www Oh www Oh that's just no you know you don't think that's just no you know you don't think that's just no you know you don't think that's a great idea no Horrible no okay that's a great idea no Horrible no okay that's a great idea no Horrible no okay so is that like one character two so is that like one character two so is that like one character two characters one two three yeah characters one two three yeah characters one two three yeah www no okay what about this one I don't www no okay what about this one I don't www no okay what about this one I don't know how many characters your arrow is know how many characters your arrow is know how many characters your arrow is either I can't tell yeah because you can either I can't tell yeah because you can either I can't tell yeah because you can go I need to know yeah this is a tough go I need to know yeah this is a tough go I need to know yeah this is a tough one one one yeah these These are weird this this I yeah these These are weird this this I yeah these These are weird this this I go back and forth on fun on looks like go back and forth on fun on looks like go back and forth on fun on looks like some people like it and some people some people like it and some people some people like it and some people don't yeah some people are like losing

don't yeah some people are like losing don't yeah some people are like losing their minds they're like this is not their minds they're like this is not their minds they're like this is not healthy yeah for anybody this is a healthy yeah for anybody this is a healthy yeah for anybody this is a problem and other ones it's Perfection problem and other ones it's Perfection problem and other ones it's Perfection yeah this is luscious I love yeah this is luscious I love yeah this is luscious I love it now are you a is is this what your it now are you a is is this what your it now are you a is is this what your command prompt looks like except it says command prompt looks like except it says command prompt looks like except it says mark mark mark uh yeah really just black black yeah you uh yeah really just black black yeah you uh yeah really just black black yeah you don't you don't change the colors you don't you don't change the colors you don't you don't change the colors you don't like Mark because I have it open don't like Mark because I have it open don't like Mark because I have it open to my sis internal source code director to my sis internal source code director to my sis internal source code director okay did did you customize this prompt okay did did you customize this prompt okay did did you customize this prompt at all no oh my goodness and then if you at all no oh my goodness and then if you at all no oh my goodness and then if you run like Ubuntu or something do you have run like Ubuntu or something do you have run like Ubuntu or something do you have at least the Ubuntu purple the Ubuntu at least the Ubuntu purple the Ubuntu at least the Ubuntu purple the Ubuntu colors yeah uh no I've colors yeah uh no I've colors yeah uh no I've got I've got black with got I've got black with got I've got black with green uh prompt uhhuh green uh prompt uhhuh green uh prompt uhhuh interesting and uh blue for current interesting and uh blue for current interesting and uh blue for current directory this is scandalous I don't directory this is scandalous I don't directory this is scandalous I don't know how I feel about the default isn't know how I feel about the default isn't know how I feel about the default isn't it it's one of the yeah yeah yeah yeah it it's one of the yeah yeah yeah yeah it it's one of the yeah yeah yeah yeah so then that makes me wonder if we could so then that makes me wonder if we could so then that makes me wonder if we could do do do this so this is the uh this is inside of this so this is the uh this is inside of this so this is the uh this is inside of Windows terminal and I'm inside of the Windows terminal and I'm inside of the Windows terminal and I'm inside of the command prompt which is this guy command prompt which is this guy command prompt which is this guy here and if we did a that's exactly right Wayne I don't spend that's exactly right Wayne I don't spend my time on this nonsense like Scott does my time on this nonsense like Scott does my time on this nonsense like Scott does no okay because you're so busy shipping no okay because you're so busy shipping no okay because you're so busy shipping right yeah getting stuff done real and right yeah getting stuff done real and right yeah getting stuff done real and I'm just and I'm just a goofball yeah

I'm just and I'm just a goofball yeah I'm just and I'm just a goofball yeah yeah that's that's offensive but also yeah that's that's offensive but also yeah that's that's offensive but also probably true what does that they say I resemble true what does that they say I resemble that remark yeah but I have a compromise that remark yeah but I have a compromise that remark yeah but I have a compromise though what if we did this we apply a 3D though what if we did this we apply a 3D though what if we did this we apply a 3D Pixel Pixel Pixel Shader to the Shader to the Shader to the terminal by the way I never see you um terminal by the way I never see you um terminal by the way I never see you um using oh the green screen I was just using oh the green screen I was just using oh the green screen I was just gonna ask you about this one yeah why gonna ask you about this one yeah why gonna ask you about this one yeah why don't you that's the way yeah I saw I've don't you that's the way yeah I saw I've don't you that's the way yeah I saw I've seen you demo this but never actually I seen you demo this but never actually I seen you demo this but never actually I don't whenever I see you don't whenever I see you don't whenever I see you using yeah the problem is it's fun to do using yeah the problem is it's fun to do using yeah the problem is it's fun to do this but it's not like it it takes a this but it's not like it it takes a this but it's not like it it takes a little bit out of you yeah you die a little bit out of you yeah you die a little bit out of you yeah you die a little bit yeah and you're watching yeah and you're watching Fallout yeah that's a good point Fallout yeah that's a good point Fallout yeah that's a good point actually I'm actually it's funny you actually I'm actually it's funny you actually I'm actually it's funny you mention that I are you watching Fallout mention that I are you watching Fallout mention that I are you watching Fallout your two episodes on you said yeah so your two episodes on you said yeah so your two episodes on you said yeah so I'm actually printing out a helmet this one finished yesterday this helmet this one finished yesterday this is a beginning of the helmet for the I is a beginning of the helmet for the I is a beginning of the helmet for the I have to do the base of the helmet and have to do the base of the helmet and have to do the base of the helmet and I'll have to re you know assemble the I'll have to re you know assemble the I'll have to re you know assemble the full Fallout helmet but this just came full Fallout helmet but this just came full Fallout helmet but this just came off the off the off the bridge I got to do it in six six or 10 bridge I got to do it in six six or 10 bridge I got to do it in six six or 10 of these okay build if I can finish it I

these okay build if I can finish it I can finish it all right can finish it all right can finish it all right so clean desktop you like clean desktop so clean desktop you like clean desktop so clean desktop you like clean desktop I like a dirty I like a dirty I like a dirty desktop dark mode we agree on yeah we do desktop dark mode we agree on yeah we do desktop dark mode we agree on yeah we do like we'd like a nice font but we don't like we'd like a nice font but we don't like we'd like a nice font but we don't go out of our way for nice font tabs go out of our way for nice font tabs go out of our way for nice font tabs versus spaces doesn't matter you don't versus spaces doesn't matter you don't versus spaces doesn't matter you don't like ligatures I could go either like ligatures I could go either like ligatures I could go either way and uh not a fan of the CRT we've way and uh not a fan of the CRT we've way and uh not a fan of the CRT we've we've moved beyond that now it's sub we've moved beyond that now it's sub we've moved beyond that now it's sub pixel rendering 4K and then we are going pixel rendering 4K and then we are going pixel rendering 4K and then we are going to solve the desktop issue though we to solve the desktop issue though we to solve the desktop issue though we think that that's a a pretty big issue think that that's a a pretty big issue think that that's a a pretty big issue that my messy desktop could could think that my messy desktop could could think that my messy desktop could could think we need to solve it okay so we're gon we need to solve it okay so we're gon we need to solve it okay so we're gon solve that that but I think it's a solve that that but I think it's a solve that that but I think it's a service to the world okay we're gonna service to the world okay we're gonna service to the world okay we're gonna try to solve all right last one what try to solve all right last one what try to solve all right last one what kind of keyboard do you use you meant kind of keyboard do you use you meant kind of keyboard do you use you meant you forgot vim and emac oh well I'm I'm you forgot vim and emac oh well I'm I'm you forgot vim and emac oh well I'm I'm a Vim I would use Vim C I don't know if a Vim I would use Vim C I don't know if a Vim I would use Vim C I don't know if we can be friends are you emac yeah you we can be friends are you emac yeah you we can be friends are you emac yeah you just like cording just all of your it's just like cording just all of your it's just like cording just all of your it's just very just very just very intuitive like an editor that you can't intuitive like an editor that you can't intuitive like an editor that you can't figure out how to to to quit is not figure out how to to to quit is not figure out how to to to quit is not intuitive well you just reboot if you intuitive well you just reboot if you intuitive well you just reboot if you want to exit Vim you just reboot you want to exit Vim you just reboot you want to exit Vim you just reboot you just yeah Hardware button Wast it sucks just yeah Hardware button Wast it sucks just yeah Hardware button Wast it sucks up a lot of time though okay what about up a lot of time though okay what about up a lot of time though okay what about keyboards keyboards keyboards oh so uh no I'm just a oh so uh no I'm just a oh so uh no I'm just a standard Microsoft keyboard this there's standard Microsoft keyboard this there's standard Microsoft keyboard this there's too much standardization here I am too much standardization here I am too much standardization here I am shocked I think the audience is going to shocked I think the audience is going to shocked I think the audience is going to be shocked I say to learn what a default be shocked I say to learn what a default be shocked I say to learn what a default guy you guy you guy you are

yeah this is a keyron Alice layout with yeah this is a keyron Alice layout with custom you like that split love the custom you like that split love the custom you like that split love the split that I'll send you the link this split that I'll send you the link this split that I'll send you the link this is a keyron I don't have any is a keyron I don't have any is a keyron I don't have any relationship with them but I custom made relationship with them but I custom made relationship with them but I custom made a co-pilot button and I've stack stack a co-pilot button and I've stack stack a co-pilot button and I've stack stack Overflow button and a GitHub button yeah Overflow button and a GitHub button yeah Overflow button and a GitHub button yeah nice and clean and it's not it's not nice and clean and it's not it's not nice and clean and it's not it's not like one of those loud ones where you like one of those loud ones where you like one of those loud ones where you feel you hear everything the clicky the feel you hear everything the clicky the feel you hear everything the clicky the uh mechanical keyboards I tried those uh mechanical keyboards I tried those uh mechanical keyboards I tried those for I've used mechanical keyboards for a for I've used mechanical keyboards for a for I've used mechanical keyboards for a while too and then I just kind of got while too and then I just kind of got while too and then I just kind of got tired of the noise yeah all right so did tired of the noise yeah all right so did tired of the noise yeah all right so did my wife got tired of the noise yeah you my wife got tired of the noise yeah you my wife got tired of the noise yeah you got to find the balance I took one of got to find the balance I took one of got to find the balance I took one of these to the office and people don't these to the office and people don't these to the office and people don't like to hear that it's just plus it like to hear that it's just plus it like to hear that it's just plus it hurts my hands I feel like my muscles hurts my hands I feel like my muscles hurts my hands I feel like my muscles work harder yeah like sof I like a soft work harder yeah like sof I like a soft work harder yeah like sof I like a soft touch yeah my my my daily driver is this touch yeah my my my daily driver is this touch yeah my my my daily driver is this I got like three of these because I I got like three of these because I I got like three of these because I think it was dis um discontinued think it was dis um discontinued think it was dis um discontinued Microsoft Ergo see on that one I don't Microsoft Ergo see on that one I don't Microsoft Ergo see on that one I don't think my typing is uh hand positions are think my typing is uh hand positions are think my typing is uh hand positions are rigorous enough to to be able to use rigorous enough to to be able to use rigorous enough to to be able to use that effectively because I think that effectively because I think that effectively because I think sometimes I cross over the sometimes I cross over the sometimes I cross over the middle this one is interesting it middle this one is interesting it middle this one is interesting it actually has the b key actually has the b key actually has the b key twice because you never know which twice because you never know which twice because you never know which finger is going to press B yeah yeah oh finger is going to press B yeah yeah oh finger is going to press B yeah yeah oh really is that the one yeah yeah I need really is that the one yeah yeah I need really is that the one yeah yeah I need to start watching that yeah B is the one to start watching that yeah B is the one to start watching that yeah B is the one where it could be your left thumb could where it could be your left thumb could where it could be your left thumb could be your right thumb yeah good stuff all be your right thumb yeah good stuff all be your right thumb yeah good stuff all right well these are all personal right well these are all personal right well these are all personal preferences we appreciate you all preferences we appreciate you all preferences we appreciate you all spending time with us we are going to be spending time with us we are going to be spending time with us we are going to be at Microsoft build in uh about a month at Microsoft build in uh about a month at Microsoft build in uh about a month and we're going to try to solve the

and we're going to try to solve the and we're going to try to solve the desktop issue because that we feel is desktop issue because that we feel is desktop issue because that we feel is the most de pressing issue that was the the most de pressing issue that was the the most de pressing issue that was the biggest point of contention yeah that's biggest point of contention yeah that's biggest point of contention yeah that's the one I don't think we can agree upon the one I don't think we can agree upon the one I don't think we can agree upon we are people who can work towards a we are people who can work towards a we are people who can work towards a common goal we are people who can find common goal we are people who can find common goal we are people who can find compromise in nearly everything compromise in nearly everything compromise in nearly everything certainly tabs versus Space is not the certainly tabs versus Space is not the certainly tabs versus Space is not the controversy you think it is but a messy controversy you think it is but a messy controversy you think it is but a messy desktop versus a clean desktop desktop versus a clean desktop desktop versus a clean desktop unacceptable it's war and we're going to unacceptable it's war and we're going to unacceptable it's war and we're going to solve it at Microsoft build so we hope solve it at Microsoft build so we hope solve it at Microsoft build so we hope folks check it out and uh thanks so much folks check it out and uh thanks so much folks check it out and uh thanks so much for spending time with us and thank you for spending time with us and thank you for spending time with us and thank you Mark for taking time out of your your Mark for taking time out of your your Mark for taking time out of your your busy day deleting email or whatever it busy day deleting email or whatever it busy day deleting email or whatever it is you do with the is you do with the is you do with the company I'm certainly not messing with company I'm certainly not messing with company I'm certainly not messing with my fonts oh yeah you're well you save so my fonts oh yeah you're well you save so my fonts oh yeah you're well you save so time you're saving minutes minutes every time you're saving minutes minutes every time you're saving minutes minutes every day all right friends we'll see you day all right friends we'll see you day all right friends we'll see you later see you