The Ultimate Home Arcade with Polycade's Tyler Bushnell

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>> I'm doing well. How's it going, Scott? >> I'm doing well. How's it going, Scott? >> Very, very well. I'm I think it's funny >> Very, very well. I'm I think it's funny >> Very, very well. I'm I think it's funny because it's going to look like if because it's going to look like if because it's going to look like if people see this on video, like it's an people see this on video, like it's an people see this on video, like it's an ad for Polycade because there is an ad for Polycade because there is an ad for Polycade because there is an arcade Polycade behind me. I've got the arcade Polycade behind me. I've got the arcade Polycade behind me. I've got the black one that is mounted on my wall. black one that is mounted on my wall. black one that is mounted on my wall. Hopefully, people who see this on Tik Hopefully, people who see this on Tik Hopefully, people who see this on Tik Tok or YouTube will be able to see that Tok or YouTube will be able to see that Tok or YouTube will be able to see that as well. So, here we are. Two guys that as well. So, here we are. Two guys that as well. So, here we are. Two guys that work for Polycade. Uh work for Polycade. Uh work for Polycade. Uh just to be make sure the folks are just to be make sure the folks are just to be make sure the folks are clear, I am a customer. This is not clear, I am a customer. This is not clear, I am a customer. This is not sponsored. I'm just a super fan. sponsored. I'm just a super fan. sponsored. I'm just a super fan. >> Nice. Nice. Well, thank you for that, >> Nice. Nice. Well, thank you for that, >> Nice. Nice. Well, thank you for that, Scott. Appreciate the support from uh Scott. Appreciate the support from uh Scott. Appreciate the support from uh yeah, the the sort of early uh yeah, the the sort of early uh yeah, the the sort of early uh >> Yeah. Well, the early adopters, right? >> Yeah. Well, the early adopters, right? >> Yeah. Well, the early adopters, right? So, I got it during a Kickstarter and um So, I got it during a Kickstarter and um So, I got it during a Kickstarter and um a lot of people are down on Kickstarter a lot of people are down on Kickstarter a lot of people are down on Kickstarter because they feel like they maybe a because they feel like they maybe a because they feel like they maybe a Kickstarter didn't deliver, but man oh Kickstarter didn't deliver, but man oh Kickstarter didn't deliver, but man oh man, Polycade delivered. Was that was man, Polycade delivered. Was that was man, Polycade delivered. Was that was that an overwhelming experience? Yeah, I that an overwhelming experience? Yeah, I that an overwhelming experience? Yeah, I mean like you know we've run a few mean like you know we've run a few mean like you know we've run a few Kickstarters at this point. It is funny Kickstarters at this point. It is funny Kickstarters at this point. It is funny like always like always like always folks that are like h this like folks that are like h this like folks that are like h this like Kickstarters make me nervous and like Kickstarters make me nervous and like Kickstarters make me nervous and like will this ever ship and like all of will this ever ship and like all of will this ever ship and like all of that. I mean granted we are like that. I mean granted we are like that. I mean granted we are like aggressive with our um delivery aggressive with our um delivery aggressive with our um delivery estimates. So we're we're working on estimates. So we're we're working on estimates. So we're we're working on adding a little more realism to those.

adding a little more realism to those. adding a little more realism to those. Uh but so you know we understand like Uh but so you know we understand like Uh but so you know we understand like when people get like antsy and like you when people get like antsy and like you when people get like antsy and like you know people freak out because know people freak out because know people freak out because Kickstarter has some scary like text Kickstarter has some scary like text Kickstarter has some scary like text that's like this is not a store and like that's like this is not a store and like that's like this is not a store and like >> it is not a store >> it is not a store >> it is not a store >> nothing you know um but I mean we even >> nothing you know um but I mean we even >> nothing you know um but I mean we even had people reach out and they're like had people reach out and they're like had people reach out and they're like can we just buy it directly from you can we just buy it directly from you can we just buy it directly from you don't like feel comfortable with this don't like feel comfortable with this don't like feel comfortable with this Kickstarter thing and we're like no Kickstarter thing and we're like no Kickstarter thing and we're like no sorry we can't do that like it doesn't sorry we can't do that like it doesn't sorry we can't do that like it doesn't work that way and they didn't buy it in work that way and they didn't buy it in work that way and they didn't buy it in the Kickstarter. and then bought it 3 the Kickstarter. and then bought it 3 the Kickstarter. and then bought it 3 months later for almost double the months later for almost double the months later for almost double the price, you know. price, you know. price, you know. >> Yeah. And that's what you get when you >> Yeah. And that's what you get when you >> Yeah. And that's what you get when you don't wait. Certainly, you can go to don't wait. Certainly, you can go to don't wait. Certainly, you can go to polycade.com right now, hit buy now, and polycade.com right now, hit buy now, and polycade.com right now, hit buy now, and it's in stock and it ships and it is it's in stock and it ships and it is it's in stock and it ships and it is fantastic. Now, people know that I've fantastic. Now, people know that I've fantastic. Now, people know that I've actually built an arcade cabinet before. actually built an arcade cabinet before. actually built an arcade cabinet before. I've actually built many arcade I've actually built many arcade I've actually built many arcade cabinets. I'm going right now and cabinets. I'm going right now and cabinets. I'm going right now and googling uh uh and I've got an article googling uh uh and I've got an article googling uh uh and I've got an article back from 2009. So, I went and took a back from 2009. So, I went and took a back from 2009. So, I went and took a >> I built a seven-part series on how to >> I built a seven-part series on how to >> I built a seven-part series on how to build your own arcade cabinet. And I was build your own arcade cabinet. And I was build your own arcade cabinet. And I was the kind of guy where you go to a bar or the kind of guy where you go to a bar or the kind of guy where you go to a bar or a bowling alley, you find a non-working a bowling alley, you find a non-working a bowling alley, you find a non-working arcade and you say to the guy at the at arcade and you say to the guy at the at arcade and you say to the guy at the at the bowling alley, hey, you know, take the bowling alley, hey, you know, take the bowling alley, hey, you know, take that off your hands. And I've paid 50 that off your hands. And I've paid 50 that off your hands. And I've paid 50 bucks and I get a nice big thing of like bucks and I get a nice big thing of like bucks and I get a nice big thing of like MDF. It's a nice big, you know, plywood MDF. It's a nice big, you know, plywood MDF. It's a nice big, you know, plywood box, box, box, >> rent a truck, get it over to the house, >> rent a truck, get it over to the house, >> rent a truck, get it over to the house, gut it, gut it, gut it, >> put a computer inside, and the building >> put a computer inside, and the building >> put a computer inside, and the building of that was a joy. But it's been my of that was a joy. But it's been my of that was a joy. But it's been my experience in the as doing retro arcade experience in the as doing retro arcade experience in the as doing retro arcade gaming for many many years now that gaming for many many years now that gaming for many many years now that there's two kinds of retro people.

there's two kinds of retro people. there's two kinds of retro people. There's the making the games and then There's the making the games and then There's the making the games and then the playing the games. There's the the playing the games. There's the the playing the games. There's the making of the cabinet and the tinkering making of the cabinet and the tinkering making of the cabinet and the tinkering and the getting the collection right and and the getting the collection right and and the getting the collection right and then there's the playing it. It feels to then there's the playing it. It feels to then there's the playing it. It feels to me like Polycade is the arcade gaming me like Polycade is the arcade gaming me like Polycade is the arcade gaming for people who actually would like to for people who actually would like to for people who actually would like to play their games. play their games. play their games. >> Yes. ish we add like a thread of that >> Yes. ish we add like a thread of that >> Yes. ish we add like a thread of that tinkering in there um just by like using tinkering in there um just by like using tinkering in there um just by like using a lot of like off-the-shelf components a lot of like off-the-shelf components a lot of like off-the-shelf components and like common connectors and stuff. So and like common connectors and stuff. So and like common connectors and stuff. So like you know where we see the tinkering like you know where we see the tinkering like you know where we see the tinkering coming in on on the I mean you're right coming in on on the I mean you're right coming in on on the I mean you're right it is like we take we take a dual it is like we take we take a dual it is like we take we take a dual approach basically like approach basically like approach basically like >> yeah you do >> yeah you do >> yeah you do >> how how can we set this up so that it's >> how how can we set this up so that it's >> how how can we set this up so that it's like super easy for the person that just like super easy for the person that just like super easy for the person that just wants it to work right wants it to work right wants it to work right >> um so that's like step one and then for >> um so that's like step one and then for >> um so that's like step one and then for the people that want to like kind of the people that want to like kind of the people that want to like kind of pull back the hood and like get in there pull back the hood and like get in there pull back the hood and like get in there and like mess around we want to make and like mess around we want to make and like mess around we want to make sure they are like empowered to do that sure they are like empowered to do that sure they are like empowered to do that right So, like right So, like right So, like >> we put like extra studs on the unders >> we put like extra studs on the unders >> we put like extra studs on the unders sides of the controllers, like all of sides of the controllers, like all of sides of the controllers, like all of them, right? So that you can go in and them, right? So that you can go in and them, right? So that you can go in and like mod the controller, right? So like like mod the controller, right? So like like mod the controller, right? So like our um button mash controller is the one our um button mash controller is the one our um button mash controller is the one that's just buttons, right? And it's that's just buttons, right? And it's that's just buttons, right? And it's like for your original like um Asteroids like for your original like um Asteroids like for your original like um Asteroids tubin gravitar setup. Um, but it's also tubin gravitar setup. Um, but it's also tubin gravitar setup. Um, but it's also like would make a great spinner like would make a great spinner like would make a great spinner controller just given the layout of the controller just given the layout of the controller just given the layout of the buttons and and everything. So, the buttons and and everything. So, the buttons and and everything. So, the center hole has uh a stud pattern under

center hole has uh a stud pattern under center hole has uh a stud pattern under there so that you could install a there so that you could install a there so that you could install a joystick um or a spinner or something joystick um or a spinner or something joystick um or a spinner or something else if you should so desire. else if you should so desire. else if you should so desire. >> Well, I think that that speaks to the >> Well, I think that that speaks to the >> Well, I think that that speaks to the word I would use is intentionality. When word I would use is intentionality. When word I would use is intentionality. When I got this, it showed up. It's massive. I got this, it showed up. It's massive. I got this, it showed up. It's massive. It shows up in my front front yard uh in It shows up in my front front yard uh in It shows up in my front front yard uh in a giant box, very well packaged. Uh my a giant box, very well packaged. Uh my a giant box, very well packaged. Uh my son and I, my 15-year-old at the time, son and I, my 15-year-old at the time, son and I, my 15-year-old at the time, installed it, hung it on the wall. It's installed it, hung it on the wall. It's installed it, hung it on the wall. It's absolutely gorgeous. It could be in a in absolutely gorgeous. It could be in a in absolutely gorgeous. It could be in a in a bar or a club or a restaurant. Like, a bar or a club or a restaurant. Like, a bar or a club or a restaurant. Like, if you have a commercial installation, if you have a commercial installation, if you have a commercial installation, you can buy it, put it up there, and you can buy it, put it up there, and you can buy it, put it up there, and it'll look amazing. But you're it'll look amazing. But you're it'll look amazing. But you're intentional about the tinkering. I intentional about the tinkering. I intentional about the tinkering. I didn't even know that that it was as didn't even know that that it was as didn't even know that that it was as modular as it was. Like like behind you modular as it was. Like like behind you modular as it was. Like like behind you on on your wall are all of your modular on on your wall are all of your modular on on your wall are all of your modular controllers. They just show up in controllers. They just show up in controllers. They just show up in software as Xinput. They show up as software as Xinput. They show up as software as Xinput. They show up as controllers, which I thought was clean. controllers, which I thought was clean. controllers, which I thought was clean. There's no like crazy drivers to install There's no like crazy drivers to install There's no like crazy drivers to install to get a Polycade to work. to get a Polycade to work. to get a Polycade to work. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> that must have been a decision that you >> that must have been a decision that you >> that must have been a decision that you made. Like you all said, "We're going to made. Like you all said, "We're going to made. Like you all said, "We're going to do it this way." do it this way." do it this way." >> Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, the controller >> Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, the controller >> Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, the controller protocol has been like one of the protocol has been like one of the protocol has been like one of the foundational like hardware choices on foundational like hardware choices on foundational like hardware choices on our our platform. Um, and it's one of our our platform. Um, and it's one of our our platform. Um, and it's one of the reason, you know, I mean, when the reason, you know, I mean, when the reason, you know, I mean, when you're building an arcade machine, you you're building an arcade machine, you you're building an arcade machine, you basically have three choices of pro basically have three choices of pro basically have three choices of pro controller protocol. It's either a controller protocol. It's either a controller protocol. It's either a keyboard controller, um, a Dinput keyboard controller, um, a Dinput keyboard controller, um, a Dinput controller, or an X-input controller.

controller, or an X-input controller. controller, or an X-input controller. Um, on the market, Xinput controllers Um, on the market, Xinput controllers Um, on the market, Xinput controllers are the most rare. They're becoming a are the most rare. They're becoming a are the most rare. They're becoming a little more common now. Um, but little more common now. Um, but little more common now. Um, but definitely when we started, you almost definitely when we started, you almost definitely when we started, you almost couldn't find one. Um, and the uh the couldn't find one. Um, and the uh the couldn't find one. Um, and the uh the difference between the three is uh is is difference between the three is uh is is difference between the three is uh is is quite a bit. So like quite a bit. So like quite a bit. So like keyboard controllers have the advantage keyboard controllers have the advantage keyboard controllers have the advantage that they have a ton of buttons. So you that they have a ton of buttons. So you that they have a ton of buttons. So you can like map like a whole like you know can like map like a whole like you know can like map like a whole like you know what I call a Franken panel where like what I call a Franken panel where like what I call a Franken panel where like it's got like you know four players and it's got like you know four players and it's got like you know four players and every controller under the sun every controller under the sun every controller under the sun >> right the big Teenage Minut Ninja Turtle >> right the big Teenage Minut Ninja Turtle >> right the big Teenage Minut Ninja Turtle one. It's got one. It's got one. It's got >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> four time 24 buttons, you know, 32 >> four time 24 buttons, you know, 32 >> four time 24 buttons, you know, 32 buttons. buttons. buttons. >> Yeah. So you can map like everything to >> Yeah. So you can map like everything to >> Yeah. So you can map like everything to a keyboard controller because there's so a keyboard controller because there's so a keyboard controller because there's so many inputs. Um, but the problem with many inputs. Um, but the problem with many inputs. Um, but the problem with the keyboard controller is that because the keyboard controller is that because the keyboard controller is that because of that you they're generally like of that you they're generally like of that you they're generally like unstandardized unstandardized unstandardized >> and so you're going to end up mapping >> and so you're going to end up mapping >> and so you're going to end up mapping the controls for every single game that the controls for every single game that the controls for every single game that you install manually, right? Giant pain. you install manually, right? Giant pain. you install manually, right? Giant pain. >> Um, and then take it one step further.

>> Um, and then take it one step further. >> Um, and then take it one step further. If you intend to play any modern games If you intend to play any modern games If you intend to play any modern games on this, um, you know, again, a keyboard on this, um, you know, again, a keyboard on this, um, you know, again, a keyboard is unstandardized and so, you know, some is unstandardized and so, you know, some is unstandardized and so, you know, some games are going to map the like movement games are going to map the like movement games are going to map the like movement to the arrow keys. Other games are going to the arrow keys. Other games are going to the arrow keys. Other games are going to map it to WD. to map it to WD. to map it to WD. Um, and so there's no standard here. So, Um, and so there's no standard here. So, Um, and so there's no standard here. So, um, when you wire your hardware, um, um, when you wire your hardware, um, um, when you wire your hardware, um, you're just making a random choice and you're just making a random choice and you're just making a random choice and not all the games are going to adhere to not all the games are going to adhere to not all the games are going to adhere to that. Um, the same kind of goes for that. Um, the same kind of goes for that. Um, the same kind of goes for Dinput. It's also a relatively Dinput. It's also a relatively Dinput. It's also a relatively unstandardized like controller protocol. unstandardized like controller protocol. unstandardized like controller protocol. This is what like PlayStation and stuff This is what like PlayStation and stuff This is what like PlayStation and stuff uses. Um, and it's also harder to uses. Um, and it's also harder to uses. Um, and it's also harder to program for as a game developer. So, um, program for as a game developer. So, um, program for as a game developer. So, um, it's an older protocol than Xinput. Um, it's an older protocol than Xinput. Um, it's an older protocol than Xinput. Um, so most game developers don't code for so most game developers don't code for so most game developers don't code for Dinput anymore. Um, and the ones that do Dinput anymore. Um, and the ones that do Dinput anymore. Um, and the ones that do usually you have to do like manual usually you have to do like manual usually you have to do like manual mapping again because it's pretty mapping again because it's pretty mapping again because it's pretty unstandardized. unstandardized. unstandardized. Um, Xinput exists in almost every modern Um, Xinput exists in almost every modern Um, Xinput exists in almost every modern game today. Some games only work with X game today. Some games only work with X game today. Some games only work with X input, right? They don't allow any input, right? They don't allow any input, right? They don't allow any controller mapping and it just like they controller mapping and it just like they controller mapping and it just like they made it work with Xbox controllers and made it work with Xbox controllers and made it work with Xbox controllers and that's it. Um, and so we went Xinput that's it. Um, and so we went Xinput that's it. Um, and so we went Xinput because it's standardized. everyone because it's standardized. everyone because it's standardized. everyone agrees on like what the like directional agrees on like what the like directional agrees on like what the like directional buttons are, what the like main button buttons are, what the like main button buttons are, what the like main button is, what the secondary button is, you is, what the secondary button is, you is, what the secondary button is, you know, main and the concept of main and know, main and the concept of main and know, main and the concept of main and secondary is important because we want

secondary is important because we want secondary is important because we want select and back to always kind of be the select and back to always kind of be the select and back to always kind of be the same. Um, but so yeah, so that's why we same. Um, but so yeah, so that's why we same. Um, but so yeah, so that's why we went Xinput. Uh, it just works out of went Xinput. Uh, it just works out of went Xinput. Uh, it just works out of the box with nearly everything. the box with nearly everything. the box with nearly everything. emulators are highly mappable. So like emulators are highly mappable. So like emulators are highly mappable. So like you don't have to like bend hardware to you don't have to like bend hardware to you don't have to like bend hardware to emulators. Um so yeah long long story emulators. Um so yeah long long story emulators. Um so yeah long long story long long answer. Um and one note for long long answer. Um and one note for long long answer. Um and one note for you we are actually going to have a you we are actually going to have a you we are actually going to have a software update. probably not soon. But software update. probably not soon. But software update. probably not soon. But in the development on the software side in the development on the software side in the development on the software side is the ability to um recognize which of is the ability to um recognize which of is the ability to um recognize which of your controllers is which so that when your controllers is which so that when your controllers is which so that when you plug in your like spinner you plug in your like spinner you plug in your like spinner controller, the software will know that controller, the software will know that controller, the software will know that you have plugged in the spinner you have plugged in the spinner you have plugged in the spinner controller. controller. controller. >> Oh, interesting. Cuz I just recently got >> Oh, interesting. Cuz I just recently got >> Oh, interesting. Cuz I just recently got uh a the what I call a Tron controller. uh a the what I call a Tron controller. uh a the what I call a Tron controller. Yeah. And I had a little bit of Yeah. And I had a little bit of Yeah. And I had a little bit of challenges mapping that and doing a challenges mapping that and doing a challenges mapping that and doing a little bit of manual kind of like MAMEim little bit of manual kind of like MAMEim little bit of manual kind of like MAMEim ini editing and to not have to do that ini editing and to not have to do that ini editing and to not have to do that would be great. I just recently got an would be great. I just recently got an would be great. I just recently got an update where it recognized the sins in update where it recognized the sins in update where it recognized the sins in light gun immediately and that made my light gun immediately and that made my light gun immediately and that made my setup a lot simpler.

setup a lot simpler. setup a lot simpler. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So sometimes I like tinkering and I >> So sometimes I like tinkering and I >> So sometimes I like tinkering and I appreciate the ability to tinker, but appreciate the ability to tinker, but appreciate the ability to tinker, but sometimes I just want like I get it gets sometimes I just want like I get it gets sometimes I just want like I get it gets confused. It's like player two is player confused. It's like player two is player confused. It's like player two is player one suddenly and the one on the right is one suddenly and the one on the right is one suddenly and the one on the right is the one on the left. the one on the left. the one on the left. >> Right. Totally. Yeah. You kind of want >> Right. Totally. Yeah. You kind of want >> Right. Totally. Yeah. You kind of want some of that stuff just to work. Um some of that stuff just to work. Um some of that stuff just to work. Um >> Yeah. Yeah, the the the the you know >> Yeah. Yeah, the the the the you know >> Yeah. Yeah, the the the the you know some of the mapping for the the some of the mapping for the the some of the mapping for the the controllers the newer controllers we controllers the newer controllers we controllers the newer controllers we have not done um on the software side. have not done um on the software side. have not done um on the software side. We're gradually getting to that and We're gradually getting to that and We're gradually getting to that and getting the like syninden configuration getting the like syninden configuration getting the like syninden configuration in there, you know. I mean, we are uh in there, you know. I mean, we are uh in there, you know. I mean, we are uh guilty of like shipping hardware before guilty of like shipping hardware before guilty of like shipping hardware before the software is ready cuz we know we can the software is ready cuz we know we can the software is ready cuz we know we can like update the software later. Uh like update the software later. Uh like update the software later. Uh whereas like the hardware, you kind of whereas like the hardware, you kind of whereas like the hardware, you kind of have to get it first. We get it right have to get it first. We get it right have to get it first. We get it right first. first. first. >> Well, to your credit, you've built a >> Well, to your credit, you've built a >> Well, to your credit, you've built a really enthusiastic community because really enthusiastic community because really enthusiastic community because like like we said, I got this on a like like we said, I got this on a like like we said, I got this on a Kickstarter and I'm thrilled with it. Kickstarter and I'm thrilled with it. Kickstarter and I'm thrilled with it. Uh, I've watched the hard the software Uh, I've watched the hard the software Uh, I've watched the hard the software get a half dozen updates and I even got get a half dozen updates and I even got get a half dozen updates and I even got a hardware update of a tiny board inside a hardware update of a tiny board inside a hardware update of a tiny board inside that uh the the main system board I got that uh the the main system board I got that uh the the main system board I got an update for that made improvements as an update for that made improvements as an update for that made improvements as well.

well. well. >> So like you don't have like it's >> So like you don't have like it's >> So like you don't have like it's modular. You don't have to get a update modular. You don't have to get a update modular. You don't have to get a update of the entire box. There's a computer in of the entire box. There's a computer in of the entire box. There's a computer in there. Uh, and it's been getting better there. Uh, and it's been getting better there. Uh, and it's been getting better and better and better. I took an update and better and better. I took an update and better and better. I took an update literally two days ago and saw literally two days ago and saw literally two days ago and saw improvements to to your credit. improvements to to your credit. improvements to to your credit. >> Yeah. Awesome. Awesome. Yeah. and we're >> Yeah. Awesome. Awesome. Yeah. and we're >> Yeah. Awesome. Awesome. Yeah. and we're working on kind of a a sort of revamp. working on kind of a a sort of revamp. working on kind of a a sort of revamp. You know, the AGS has been through a lot You know, the AGS has been through a lot You know, the AGS has been through a lot of iterations. Um, and you reach a point of iterations. Um, and you reach a point of iterations. Um, and you reach a point where like sort of a groundup rebuild is where like sort of a groundup rebuild is where like sort of a groundup rebuild is it's time for that. Um, and that is it's time for that. Um, and that is it's time for that. Um, and that is where AGS is at. So, like once we get where AGS is at. So, like once we get where AGS is at. So, like once we get that sorted out, we'll we'll see that sorted out, we'll we'll see that sorted out, we'll we'll see development move faster in general and development move faster in general and development move faster in general and um and be sort less buggy. um and be sort less buggy. um and be sort less buggy. >> So, let's talk about that. So, AGS means >> So, let's talk about that. So, AGS means >> So, let's talk about that. So, AGS means arcade gaming software. So that's the arcade gaming software. So that's the arcade gaming software. So that's the kiosk, that's the front end. Now, kiosk, that's the front end. Now, kiosk, that's the front end. Now, historically, and we should probably historically, and we should probably historically, and we should probably mention this as well, there's been mention this as well, there's been mention this as well, there's been questionable legality about the idea of questionable legality about the idea of questionable legality about the idea of emulating arcades. But with Polycade, emulating arcades. But with Polycade, emulating arcades. But with Polycade, there's an actual shop and I can go and there's an actual shop and I can go and there's an actual shop and I can go and purchase games. If I don't want to be purchase games. If I don't want to be purchase games. If I don't want to be scouring the internet for ROMs of scouring the internet for ROMs of scouring the internet for ROMs of questionable provenance, I can just go questionable provenance, I can just go questionable provenance, I can just go and pay $299 and I can play uh a and pay $299 and I can play uh a and pay $299 and I can play uh a licensed game. So, you've you've solved licensed game. So, you've you've solved licensed game. So, you've you've solved that problem for folks that don't want that problem for folks that don't want that problem for folks that don't want to go all over the internet and look for to go all over the internet and look for to go all over the internet and look for stuff that might be in a gray area.

stuff that might be in a gray area. stuff that might be in a gray area. Yeah, totally. And so, like, you know, Yeah, totally. And so, like, you know, Yeah, totally. And so, like, you know, our our game store is really about like our our game store is really about like our our game store is really about like getting like surfacing the the retro getting like surfacing the the retro getting like surfacing the the retro titles that um you know, you can't titles that um you know, you can't titles that um you know, you can't really buy anywhere right now. really buy anywhere right now. really buy anywhere right now. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Um and then also >> Um and then also >> Um and then also um um um curating like modern indie titles that curating like modern indie titles that curating like modern indie titles that really fit this like sort of really fit this like sort of really fit this like sort of >> AR.io >> AR.io >> AR.io integration. You have GOG integration. integration. You have GOG integration. integration. You have GOG integration. like my Steam game just lit up and like my Steam game just lit up and like my Steam game just lit up and there's a lot of really great almost a there's a lot of really great almost a there's a lot of really great almost a resurgence of great games on Steam. Like resurgence of great games on Steam. Like resurgence of great games on Steam. Like I got a bunch of great Japanese schmups, I got a bunch of great Japanese schmups, I got a bunch of great Japanese schmups, shoot them ups and vertical games that I shoot them ups and vertical games that I shoot them ups and vertical games that I couldn't find anywhere. Couldn't get the couldn't find anywhere. Couldn't get the couldn't find anywhere. Couldn't get the ROMs working and I could go and say, ROMs working and I could go and say, ROMs working and I could go and say, "Oh, there it is on Steam. Five bucks." "Oh, there it is on Steam. Five bucks." "Oh, there it is on Steam. Five bucks." >> Right. Totally. Totally. Yeah. And then >> Right. Totally. Totally. Yeah. And then >> Right. Totally. Totally. Yeah. And then like other games like you know Vampire like other games like you know Vampire like other games like you know Vampire Survivors that have sort of come with Survivors that have sort of come with Survivors that have sort of come with these new mechanics that you know it these new mechanics that you know it these new mechanics that you know it looks and feels like a game that was looks and feels like a game that was looks and feels like a game that was released back in the 80s but um you know released back in the 80s but um you know released back in the 80s but um you know it's recent game and like fun new it's recent game and like fun new it's recent game and like fun new mechanics. Um you know there's a lot of mechanics. Um you know there's a lot of mechanics. Um you know there's a lot of great stuff in there that that um you great stuff in there that that um you great stuff in there that that um you know we're really enjoying like showing know we're really enjoying like showing know we're really enjoying like showing those to folks that you know a lot of those to folks that you know a lot of those to folks that you know a lot of people just buy our system mainly for people just buy our system mainly for people just buy our system mainly for the retro games which is great. you the retro games which is great. you the retro games which is great. you know, that's what we got started in know, that's what we got started in know, that's what we got started in this. Um, but then once you scratch the this. Um, but then once you scratch the this. Um, but then once you scratch the surface on some of those modern games, surface on some of those modern games, surface on some of those modern games, you're like, you're like, you're like, >> "Yeah, >> "Yeah, >> "Yeah, >> it's like it's like it's like the 80s >> it's like it's like it's like the 80s >> it's like it's like it's like the 80s and 90s just continued and and and 90s just continued and and and 90s just continued and and you know, we just lost sight of them."

you know, we just lost sight of them." you know, we just lost sight of them." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Well, and it's also super >> Yeah. Well, and it's also super >> Yeah. Well, and it's also super configurable in that I could use an Xbox configurable in that I could use an Xbox configurable in that I could use an Xbox controller if I want to. And it's got a controller if I want to. And it's got a controller if I want to. And it's got a little drawer at the bottom. So, if I little drawer at the bottom. So, if I little drawer at the bottom. So, if I want to and it's got a very very capable want to and it's got a very very capable want to and it's got a very very capable little mini PC inside. And I was able little mini PC inside. And I was able little mini PC inside. And I was able just for about 60 bucks to double the just for about 60 bucks to double the just for about 60 bucks to double the memory with I got I I threw in another memory with I got I I threw in another memory with I got I I threw in another 16, you know, gigs of RAM and I felt 16, you know, gigs of RAM and I felt 16, you know, gigs of RAM and I felt like that gave it the boost that I like that gave it the boost that I like that gave it the boost that I needed. So while I spend most of my time needed. So while I spend most of my time needed. So while I spend most of my time on the Polycade with retro arcade games, on the Polycade with retro arcade games, on the Polycade with retro arcade games, I can also play, you know, perfectly I can also play, you know, perfectly I can also play, you know, perfectly good Steam games just fine. good Steam games just fine. good Steam games just fine. >> Yeah, totally. Yeah. And and you know >> Yeah, totally. Yeah. And and you know >> Yeah, totally. Yeah. And and you know that's also where you come back to some that's also where you come back to some that's also where you come back to some of this um hackability of the system. of this um hackability of the system. of this um hackability of the system. But um you know I've stuck a KVM switch But um you know I've stuck a KVM switch But um you know I've stuck a KVM switch into my my machine and uh it can switch into my my machine and uh it can switch into my my machine and uh it can switch between the my Nintendo Switch and Mini between the my Nintendo Switch and Mini between the my Nintendo Switch and Mini Z. Right. Z. Right. Z. Right. >> Yeah. One of the things that people are >> Yeah. One of the things that people are >> Yeah. One of the things that people are most impressed by when they come and see most impressed by when they come and see most impressed by when they come and see mine is that I paid a little bit extra mine is that I paid a little bit extra mine is that I paid a little bit extra for the marquee. So, I love explaining for the marquee. So, I love explaining for the marquee. So, I love explaining this to Windows nerds cuz, you know, I this to Windows nerds cuz, you know, I this to Windows nerds cuz, you know, I work for Microsoft in my day job that work for Microsoft in my day job that work for Microsoft in my day job that the top marquee is another monitor. And the top marquee is another monitor. And the top marquee is another monitor. And it's such a clean, obvious thing to do.

it's such a clean, obvious thing to do. it's such a clean, obvious thing to do. It's like, oh, that's monitor one and It's like, oh, that's monitor one and It's like, oh, that's monitor one and this is monitor zero. And well, how do this is monitor zero. And well, how do this is monitor zero. And well, how do you put the marquee up there? That's a you put the marquee up there? That's a you put the marquee up there? That's a PNG. PNG. PNG. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> There's such a bunch of enthusiasts in >> There's such a bunch of enthusiasts in >> There's such a bunch of enthusiasts in the Discord, you know, sharing art. the Discord, you know, sharing art. the Discord, you know, sharing art. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> To get that marquee to light up. What a >> To get that marquee to light up. What a >> To get that marquee to light up. What a great feature. great feature. great feature. >> Totally. And actually uh we're something >> Totally. And actually uh we're something >> Totally. And actually uh we're something we need to do going to issue this task we need to do going to issue this task we need to do going to issue this task today is um get that community artwork today is um get that community artwork today is um get that community artwork loaded into the the system so that it loaded into the the system so that it loaded into the the system so that it just automatically downloads for just automatically downloads for just automatically downloads for everybody. everybody. everybody. >> So there's a great example the the >> So there's a great example the the >> So there's a great example the the having the artwork automatically having the artwork automatically having the artwork automatically download. When I started playing with download. When I started playing with download. When I started playing with this when I first got it and like you this when I first got it and like you this when I first got it and like you said the hardware was excellent, the said the hardware was excellent, the said the hardware was excellent, the software is getting there. Um, I had to software is getting there. Um, I had to software is getting there. Um, I had to go into like deep folders into app data go into like deep folders into app data go into like deep folders into app data local whatever and put in like name this local whatever and put in like name this local whatever and put in like name this png some gooid.png. png some gooid.png. png some gooid.png. But now there's there's talk of having But now there's there's talk of having But now there's there's talk of having that automatically download. There's that automatically download. There's that automatically download. There's PowerShell scripts. How do you PowerShell scripts. How do you PowerShell scripts. How do you coordinate that and how do you deal with coordinate that and how do you deal with coordinate that and how do you deal with the community saying they want it to the community saying they want it to the community saying they want it to just work out of the box, but they also just work out of the box, but they also just work out of the box, but they also love tinkering.

love tinkering. love tinkering. >> Yeah, totally. So the, you know, we kind >> Yeah, totally. So the, you know, we kind >> Yeah, totally. So the, you know, we kind of like do our best to get the things we of like do our best to get the things we of like do our best to get the things we can't change right the first time, can't change right the first time, can't change right the first time, hardware, right? and and so get that out hardware, right? and and so get that out hardware, right? and and so get that out into the field and you know then the the into the field and you know then the the into the field and you know then the the the power users you know the power users you know the power users you know >> there's always some some friction here >> there's always some some friction here >> there's always some some friction here because because because >> we do release the hardware a little >> we do release the hardware a little >> we do release the hardware a little before the software and so um you know before the software and so um you know before the software and so um you know the power users get right down to it and the power users get right down to it and the power users get right down to it and figure out how to configure and etc. figure out how to configure and etc. figure out how to configure and etc. Folks who are not power users get in Folks who are not power users get in Folks who are not power users get in touch with the power users so they can touch with the power users so they can touch with the power users so they can figure it out too. uh and then we kind figure it out too. uh and then we kind figure it out too. uh and then we kind of listen and watch and um you know of listen and watch and um you know of listen and watch and um you know figure out what we need to like figure out what we need to like figure out what we need to like incorporate into the system sooner than incorporate into the system sooner than incorporate into the system sooner than later. Um but so you know moving forward later. Um but so you know moving forward later. Um but so you know moving forward there's like a two two areas that we're there's like a two two areas that we're there's like a two two areas that we're really working on improving is um you really working on improving is um you really working on improving is um you know number one like more empowering know number one like more empowering know number one like more empowering users to users to users to um be able to like um be able to like um be able to like fix things for other users essentially fix things for other users essentially fix things for other users essentially right so right so right so >> um the metadata >> um the metadata >> um the metadata >> impatient I think some of your users are >> impatient I think some of your users are >> impatient I think some of your users are impatient so you have like a very nice impatient so you have like a very nice impatient so you have like a very nice young man who's in the chat who sounds young man who's in the chat who sounds young man who's in the chat who sounds like he's one of the main devs and he's like he's one of the main devs and he's like he's one of the main devs and he's like, "Yeah, we're working on that." And like, "Yeah, we're working on that." And like, "Yeah, we're working on that." And then someone else will be like, "I wrote then someone else will be like, "I wrote then someone else will be like, "I wrote a PowerShell script. I got tired of a PowerShell script. I got tired of a PowerShell script. I got tired of waiting."

waiting." waiting." >> Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And so it's like >> Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And so it's like >> Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And so it's like how do we like kind of like accelerate how do we like kind of like accelerate how do we like kind of like accelerate some of this so that you know where some of this so that you know where some of this so that you know where where we can only move so fast where we can only move so fast where we can only move so fast internally? Like what tools can we put internally? Like what tools can we put internally? Like what tools can we put in your guys' hands, you know, that in your guys' hands, you know, that in your guys' hands, you know, that allow you to, you know, move some of allow you to, you know, move some of allow you to, you know, move some of this faster than we could. this faster than we could. this faster than we could. >> Well, we appreciate it. We have a lot of >> Well, we appreciate it. We have a lot of >> Well, we appreciate it. We have a lot of fun uh with it. Now, it's it's worth fun uh with it. Now, it's it's worth fun uh with it. Now, it's it's worth noting that you you have a famous last noting that you you have a famous last noting that you you have a famous last name. Your last name is Bushnell. Your name. Your last name is Bushnell. Your name. Your last name is Bushnell. Your dad is Nolan Bushnell who made Atari and dad is Nolan Bushnell who made Atari and dad is Nolan Bushnell who made Atari and he made Chuck-e-Cheese. Did that make he made Chuck-e-Cheese. Did that make he made Chuck-e-Cheese. Did that make you an arcade person? Is this one of you an arcade person? Is this one of you an arcade person? Is this one of those things where was he like a gamer? those things where was he like a gamer? those things where was he like a gamer? Is that just a coincidence? Is that just a coincidence? Is that just a coincidence? >> He's not really a gamer is the funny >> He's not really a gamer is the funny >> He's not really a gamer is the funny thing. I mean he is he loves games, thing. I mean he is he loves games, thing. I mean he is he loves games, right? But like you know he hasn't right? But like you know he hasn't right? But like you know he hasn't played like a video game in like you played like a video game in like you played like a video game in like you know I mean he plays like go he that's know I mean he plays like go he that's know I mean he plays like go he that's not true. He plays a lot of video games not true. He plays a lot of video games not true. He plays a lot of video games but like he has not played like but like he has not played like but like he has not played like >> he's just not in COD. I'm not gonna drop >> he's just not in COD. I'm not gonna drop >> he's just not in COD. I'm not gonna drop into a COD lobby and your dad's there. into a COD lobby and your dad's there. into a COD lobby and your dad's there. >> He would never touch like a modern video >> He would never touch like a modern video >> He would never touch like a modern video game, right? Like um you know, he's he's game, right? Like um you know, he's he's game, right? Like um you know, he's he's like a mobile game guy.

like a mobile game guy. like a mobile game guy. >> Isn't that funny? My My dad's pushing 80 >> Isn't that funny? My My dad's pushing 80 >> Isn't that funny? My My dad's pushing 80 as well, and he's like all about the as well, and he's like all about the as well, and he's like all about the mobile, but less so about anything with mobile, but less so about anything with mobile, but less so about anything with like an Xbox controller or a PlayStation like an Xbox controller or a PlayStation like an Xbox controller or a PlayStation controller. controller. controller. >> Yeah, there's you reached a point that >> Yeah, there's you reached a point that >> Yeah, there's you reached a point that where like there was more than four where like there was more than four where like there was more than four buttons on the controller and guys like buttons on the controller and guys like buttons on the controller and guys like that opted out, right? Um and and so I that opted out, right? Um and and so I that opted out, right? Um and and so I mean he has like you know he's played a mean he has like you know he's played a mean he has like you know he's played a lot on the Polygate at his house. Um lot on the Polygate at his house. Um lot on the Polygate at his house. Um that like that like that like >> Oh, so he's a he's a Polycade owner as >> Oh, so he's a he's a Polycade owner as >> Oh, so he's a he's a Polycade owner as well. That's fantastic. well. That's fantastic. well. That's fantastic. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So he he was he >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So he he was he >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So he he was he was getting real into it for a while. Um was getting real into it for a while. Um was getting real into it for a while. Um playing it daily like you know playing it daily like you know playing it daily like you know revisiting a bunch of old games. Um he revisiting a bunch of old games. Um he revisiting a bunch of old games. Um he showed me one game called Loco Motion. I showed me one game called Loco Motion. I showed me one game called Loco Motion. I don't know if you know that but don't know if you know that but don't know if you know that but >> no >> no >> no >> kind of a cool weird little train game. >> kind of a cool weird little train game. >> kind of a cool weird little train game. But did you grow up with with arcades But did you grow up with with arcades But did you grow up with with arcades all over or is this something that all over or is this something that all over or is this something that happened naturally? Because you and I happened naturally? Because you and I happened naturally? Because you and I are pe men of a certain age. I think are pe men of a certain age. I think are pe men of a certain age. I think that it's just natural. that it's just natural. that it's just natural. >> Yes. So like we grew up just like around >> Yes. So like we grew up just like around >> Yes. So like we grew up just like around gaming in general, you know? I mean so gaming in general, you know? I mean so gaming in general, you know? I mean so like we had an arcade in our house with like we had an arcade in our house with like we had an arcade in our house with like you know four pinballs of which like you know four pinballs of which like you know four pinballs of which like one worked. Um we had like like one worked. Um we had like like one worked. Um we had like six arcade machines in our house I six arcade machines in our house I six arcade machines in our house I think.

think. think. >> Oh wow. Okay. So yeah. So it's in your >> Oh wow. Okay. So yeah. So it's in your >> Oh wow. Okay. So yeah. So it's in your jeans. jeans. jeans. >> Yeah. Yeah. And and you know those were >> Yeah. Yeah. And and you know those were >> Yeah. Yeah. And and you know those were all like all of this stuff growing up all like all of this stuff growing up all like all of this stuff growing up felt like old and artifacty to us felt like old and artifacty to us felt like old and artifacty to us really. really. really. >> Um because I was born in 1980. >> Um because I was born in 1980. >> Um because I was born in 1980. >> Um and so like >> Um and so like >> Um and so like >> and you know all of that he had sold it >> and you know all of that he had sold it >> and you know all of that he had sold it in like 1972 Atari uh or wait no 76. in like 1972 Atari uh or wait no 76. in like 1972 Atari uh or wait no 76. >> Um and uh the uh or was it 78? I should >> Um and uh the uh or was it 78? I should >> Um and uh the uh or was it 78? I should know these things. know these things. know these things. >> Well I mean you were you were -2 years >> Well I mean you were you were -2 years >> Well I mean you were you were -2 years old. I think it's worth noting. old. I think it's worth noting. old. I think it's worth noting. >> Yeah, but just from the trivia. People >> Yeah, but just from the trivia. People >> Yeah, but just from the trivia. People ask me trivia all the time. I'm like, I ask me trivia all the time. I'm like, I ask me trivia all the time. I'm like, I don't know, dude. don't know, dude. don't know, dude. >> I don't know. I was a baby, man. How how >> I don't know. I was a baby, man. How how >> I don't know. I was a baby, man. How how could I know? could I know? could I know? >> You're you're you're the you're the >> You're you're you're the you're the >> You're you're you're the you're the historian of it. I was just there. historian of it. I was just there. historian of it. I was just there. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> But uh uh what was the Oh, yeah. So, I >> But uh uh what was the Oh, yeah. So, I >> But uh uh what was the Oh, yeah. So, I mean like we just grew around grew up mean like we just grew around grew up mean like we just grew around grew up around all these games like you know the around all these games like you know the around all these games like you know the but yeah the games that we had in our but yeah the games that we had in our but yeah the games that we had in our house were like Canyon Bomber um Super house were like Canyon Bomber um Super house were like Canyon Bomber um Super Breakout Breakout Breakout >> uh dominoes uh I think we had like X and >> uh dominoes uh I think we had like X and >> uh dominoes uh I think we had like X and O football but it never worked. It was O football but it never worked. It was O football but it never worked. It was just it was like a poker table for us.

just it was like a poker table for us. just it was like a poker table for us. >> Um and like I don't know those are the >> Um and like I don't know those are the >> Um and like I don't know those are the Oh, and then we had Donkey Kong Jr. and Oh, and then we had Donkey Kong Jr. and Oh, and then we had Donkey Kong Jr. and uh Pango. uh Pango. uh Pango. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> Um >> Um >> Um >> that's pretty solid pretty solid start. >> that's pretty solid pretty solid start. >> that's pretty solid pretty solid start. >> Pretty solid setup. conceive though >> Pretty solid setup. conceive though >> Pretty solid setup. conceive though there's so many lousy there's so many lousy there's so many lousy >> without mentioning any names or >> without mentioning any names or >> without mentioning any names or companies there's a lot of very mediocre companies there's a lot of very mediocre companies there's a lot of very mediocre arcade systems out there and a lot of arcade systems out there and a lot of arcade systems out there and a lot of them look like big arcades like I've I them look like big arcades like I've I them look like big arcades like I've I went and I built one and and and people went and I built one and and and people went and I built one and and and people know who followed my YouTube and follow know who followed my YouTube and follow know who followed my YouTube and follow me for years that I had that thing here me for years that I had that thing here me for years that I had that thing here and it just I loved it but it was and it just I loved it but it was and it just I loved it but it was imposing it's like having a refrigerator imposing it's like having a refrigerator imposing it's like having a refrigerator >> in your office >> in your office >> in your office >> yeah it like creates dead space to the >> yeah it like creates dead space to the >> yeah it like creates dead space to the sort of like next to it and sort of like next to it and sort of like next to it and And then you've got the people who are And then you've got the people who are And then you've got the people who are like, "You got to have a CRT, man." And like, "You got to have a CRT, man." And like, "You got to have a CRT, man." And like people will drive 100 miles to find like people will drive 100 miles to find like people will drive 100 miles to find a good 27in CRT that'll shock you and a good 27in CRT that'll shock you and a good 27in CRT that'll shock you and kill your whole family. kill your whole family. kill your whole family. >> Totally. >> Totally. >> Totally. >> Right. I want to understand how the >> Right. I want to understand how the >> Right. I want to understand how the Polycade Cente got conceived of and why Polycade Cente got conceived of and why Polycade Cente got conceived of and why you made the choices you made because you made the choices you made because you made the choices you made because you made some choices that an arcade you made some choices that an arcade you made some choices that an arcade purist might be like, I don't know, man. purist might be like, I don't know, man. purist might be like, I don't know, man. 16 by9 screen, LCD panel, it's awfully 16 by9 screen, LCD panel, it's awfully 16 by9 screen, LCD panel, it's awfully thin, thin, thin, >> but man, it's a freaking delight. But it >> but man, it's a freaking delight. But it >> but man, it's a freaking delight. But it it there was a decision there. Back to it there was a decision there. Back to it there was a decision there. Back to that very beginning, you were that very beginning, you were that very beginning, you were deliberate. How did that happen?

deliberate. How did that happen? deliberate. How did that happen? >> Yeah. So, I mean, you know, we started >> Yeah. So, I mean, you know, we started >> Yeah. So, I mean, you know, we started like interested in retro games, like like interested in retro games, like like interested in retro games, like built up a unit, you know. I mean, I built up a unit, you know. I mean, I built up a unit, you know. I mean, I wanted to put the machine in my living wanted to put the machine in my living wanted to put the machine in my living room. So, like that's what informed the room. So, like that's what informed the room. So, like that's what informed the design of where like my wife is an design of where like my wife is an design of where like my wife is an interior designer, furniture designer, interior designer, furniture designer, interior designer, furniture designer, and so she, you know, it had to look a and so she, you know, it had to look a and so she, you know, it had to look a certain way to appease her. certain way to appease her. certain way to appease her. >> Um, so that that's sort of what informed >> Um, so that that's sort of what informed >> Um, so that that's sort of what informed the design. But from a functional the design. But from a functional the design. But from a functional standpoint, once we started scr standpoint, once we started scr standpoint, once we started scr scratching the surface on like modern scratching the surface on like modern scratching the surface on like modern one thing we knew going into this, one thing we knew going into this, one thing we knew going into this, because I grew up with arcade machines, because I grew up with arcade machines, because I grew up with arcade machines, we moved a few times and like bringing we moved a few times and like bringing we moved a few times and like bringing an arcade machine up and down the stairs an arcade machine up and down the stairs an arcade machine up and down the stairs is something no one should ever have to is something no one should ever have to is something no one should ever have to do. do. do. >> Oh, no. >> Oh, no. >> Oh, no. >> It's the worst. >> It's the worst. >> It's the worst. >> Miserable. Yeah. And so like much less >> Miserable. Yeah. And so like much less >> Miserable. Yeah. And so like much less six of them. Um six of them. Um six of them. Um >> it took three full grown men with bad >> it took three full grown men with bad >> it took three full grown men with bad backs to get that arcade out the door. backs to get that arcade out the door. backs to get that arcade out the door. Uh, and I never like I never want to do Uh, and I never like I never want to do Uh, and I never like I never want to do that ever again. that ever again. that ever again. >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And so like >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And so like >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And so like when we talk about CRTs, I knew when we talk about CRTs, I knew when we talk about CRTs, I knew immediately also from a just a supply immediately also from a just a supply immediately also from a just a supply and everything else perspective like and everything else perspective like and everything else perspective like CRTs are not a logical thing to use CRTs are not a logical thing to use CRTs are not a logical thing to use anymore, right? Like if you're anymore, right? Like if you're anymore, right? Like if you're >> purist, you're doing a museum thing, >> purist, you're doing a museum thing, >> purist, you're doing a museum thing, like whatever. I don't know. You're like whatever. I don't know. You're like whatever. I don't know. You're like, "Yeah, get your CRT, whatever." No like, "Yeah, get your CRT, whatever." No like, "Yeah, get your CRT, whatever." No one's starting a business about CRT one's starting a business about CRT one's starting a business about CRT arcade machines. Um, but more arcade machines. Um, but more arcade machines. Um, but more importantly, we wanted this to be a importantly, we wanted this to be a importantly, we wanted this to be a modern device, right? We wanted it to modern device, right? We wanted it to modern device, right? We wanted it to have modern features, like modern have modern features, like modern have modern features, like modern software features and whatnot, right?

software features and whatnot, right? software features and whatnot, right? Like I've played plenty of main cabinets Like I've played plenty of main cabinets Like I've played plenty of main cabinets and like, you know, set up my own and like, you know, set up my own and like, you know, set up my own Raspberry Pi console system and the Raspberry Pi console system and the Raspberry Pi console system and the first thing that like the thing that was first thing that like the thing that was first thing that like the thing that was so interesting to me when you set up so interesting to me when you set up so interesting to me when you set up your like Raspberry Pi retro console is your like Raspberry Pi retro console is your like Raspberry Pi retro console is that for me, yeah, fun to set it up. And that for me, yeah, fun to set it up. And that for me, yeah, fun to set it up. And then once I got it all set up right, I then once I got it all set up right, I then once I got it all set up right, I like turned it on. I played like three like turned it on. I played like three like turned it on. I played like three games and I never touched the thing games and I never touched the thing games and I never touched the thing again, you know? And it was like, why is again, you know? And it was like, why is again, you know? And it was like, why is that? Like what is this that like that? Like what is this that like that? Like what is this that like >> makes this thing >> makes this thing >> makes this thing suck kind of, suck kind of, suck kind of, >> you know? And it's like I don't know >> you know? And it's like I don't know >> you know? And it's like I don't know what it it was like some amount of like what it it was like some amount of like what it it was like some amount of like turning the TV on and getting the Pi up turning the TV on and getting the Pi up turning the TV on and getting the Pi up and running and like you know emulation and running and like you know emulation and running and like you know emulation station doesn't remember any of the station doesn't remember any of the station doesn't remember any of the games I've played so like it's like I games I've played so like it's like I games I've played so like it's like I don't know the UI just is like very un don't know the UI just is like very un don't know the UI just is like very un >> welcoming. >> welcoming. >> welcoming. >> Welcoming. Yeah. It's just kind of a >> Welcoming. Yeah. It's just kind of a >> Welcoming. Yeah. It's just kind of a bummer and you have to it takes a while bummer and you have to it takes a while bummer and you have to it takes a while to find what you want to play. It to find what you want to play. It to find what you want to play. It doesn't really like you're sifting. Of doesn't really like you're sifting. Of doesn't really like you're sifting. Of course, you loaded 10,000 games in course, you loaded 10,000 games in course, you loaded 10,000 games in there. So, like you're sifting through there. So, like you're sifting through there. So, like you're sifting through like like like >> and some of them work and some of them >> and some of them work and some of them >> and some of them work and some of them don't. And don't. And don't. And >> so, it's like the whole thing is just >> so, it's like the whole thing is just >> so, it's like the whole thing is just kind of a pain and doesn't really kind of a pain and doesn't really kind of a pain and doesn't really something not engaging about it and it's something not engaging about it and it's something not engaging about it and it's not it's like it's like a problem with not it's like it's like a problem with not it's like it's like a problem with software. It's a problem with like software. It's a problem with like software. It's a problem with like barrier to entry. It's a problem with I barrier to entry. It's a problem with I barrier to entry. It's a problem with I don't know. So, it was like coming back

don't know. So, it was like coming back don't know. So, it was like coming back to the Polycade, we, you know, wanted to to the Polycade, we, you know, wanted to to the Polycade, we, you know, wanted to make sure we were building something make sure we were building something make sure we were building something that like felt good to play um and was that like felt good to play um and was that like felt good to play um and was sort of futurep proof in a way that um sort of futurep proof in a way that um sort of futurep proof in a way that um it could be the most flexible machine it could be the most flexible machine it could be the most flexible machine possible, right? And so when we talk possible, right? And so when we talk possible, right? And so when we talk about being the most flexible and being about being the most flexible and being about being the most flexible and being able to play modern games, modern games able to play modern games, modern games able to play modern games, modern games are built for one screen size and that are built for one screen size and that are built for one screen size and that is 1920 by you know I mean it's like a a is 1920 by you know I mean it's like a a is 1920 by you know I mean it's like a a 16 to9 16 to9 16 to9 >> y >> y >> y >> screen ratio. Um, and a lot of them >> screen ratio. Um, and a lot of them >> screen ratio. Um, and a lot of them don't play well. Um, when you bring them don't play well. Um, when you bring them don't play well. Um, when you bring them up on like a, you know, screen size up on like a, you know, screen size up on like a, you know, screen size sometimes for those doesn't translate sometimes for those doesn't translate sometimes for those doesn't translate very well to a 14 a 4x3 because you just very well to a 14 a 4x3 because you just very well to a 14 a 4x3 because you just don't really have to do that very often don't really have to do that very often don't really have to do that very often these days. these days. these days. >> Yeah. Well, and plus you can apply CRT >> Yeah. Well, and plus you can apply CRT >> Yeah. Well, and plus you can apply CRT filters. Like CRT filters were okay 5 filters. Like CRT filters were okay 5 filters. Like CRT filters were okay 5 years ago. Yeah. years ago. Yeah. years ago. Yeah. >> But on a modern machine, on a 4K >> But on a modern machine, on a 4K >> But on a modern machine, on a 4K monitor, they're extraordinary. So if monitor, they're extraordinary. So if monitor, they're extraordinary. So if you want to spend that little bit of 3D you want to spend that little bit of 3D you want to spend that little bit of 3D uh you know power on your GPU, why not uh you know power on your GPU, why not uh you know power on your GPU, why not do it? It's pretty convincing.

do it? It's pretty convincing. do it? It's pretty convincing. >> Yeah. And and and when it comes to like >> Yeah. And and and when it comes to like >> Yeah. And and and when it comes to like emulation and like retro technologies, emulation and like retro technologies, emulation and like retro technologies, right? Like those are always being moved right? Like those are always being moved right? Like those are always being moved forward to modern hardware, right? And forward to modern hardware, right? And forward to modern hardware, right? And so yeah, we can expect that like CRT so yeah, we can expect that like CRT so yeah, we can expect that like CRT like you know scan lines and all that like you know scan lines and all that like you know scan lines and all that good stuff is going to be properly good stuff is going to be properly good stuff is going to be properly emulated on a modern uh monitor. We can emulated on a modern uh monitor. We can emulated on a modern uh monitor. We can also expect that um emulators are going also expect that um emulators are going also expect that um emulators are going to allow us to like keep screen size to allow us to like keep screen size to allow us to like keep screen size ratios proper on a 16x9 monitor, right? ratios proper on a 16x9 monitor, right? ratios proper on a 16x9 monitor, right? And so if it was originally a vertical And so if it was originally a vertical And so if it was originally a vertical game, it'll show with like, you know, game, it'll show with like, you know, game, it'll show with like, you know, black bars and we can always put uh black bars and we can always put uh black bars and we can always put uh monitor like bezel artwork in those monitor like bezel artwork in those monitor like bezel artwork in those black bars so that it it looks cool when black bars so that it it looks cool when black bars so that it it looks cool when you bring up that game, right? you bring up that game, right? you bring up that game, right? >> Oh yeah, that that people need to see >> Oh yeah, that that people need to see >> Oh yeah, that that people need to see that. By the way, like getting that that. By the way, like getting that that. By the way, like getting that right, like man, if I the amount of work right, like man, if I the amount of work right, like man, if I the amount of work required to go and collect all the art, required to go and collect all the art, required to go and collect all the art, that'll be amazing when AGS does that that'll be amazing when AGS does that that'll be amazing when AGS does that for me because I love when the when the for me because I love when the when the for me because I love when the when the the marquee pops up. But when you get the marquee pops up. But when you get the marquee pops up. But when you get bezel art and you're playing like bezel art and you're playing like bezel art and you're playing like asteroids and then you warp the the CRT, asteroids and then you warp the the CRT, asteroids and then you warp the the CRT, it's almost like the thing transforms.

it's almost like the thing transforms. it's almost like the thing transforms. And it's also worth noting, again, I And it's also worth noting, again, I And it's also worth noting, again, I know I'm a sounding like I'm an know I'm a sounding like I'm an know I'm a sounding like I'm an advertisement, but like you can there's advertisement, but like you can there's advertisement, but like you can there's magnetics. Like this thing is metal. magnetics. Like this thing is metal. magnetics. Like this thing is metal. This thing is sturdy. So if you want to This thing is sturdy. So if you want to This thing is sturdy. So if you want to change the entire look of the Polycade, change the entire look of the Polycade, change the entire look of the Polycade, you could put the art on the outside. you could put the art on the outside. you could put the art on the outside. >> You can, not just with stickers. I had >> You can, not just with stickers. I had >> You can, not just with stickers. I had some lousy stickers on my arcade, but some lousy stickers on my arcade, but some lousy stickers on my arcade, but this does metallic uh arcade decals this does metallic uh arcade decals this does metallic uh arcade decals which change the look and feel of the which change the look and feel of the which change the look and feel of the entire thing. Yeah, the magnet the entire thing. Yeah, the magnet the entire thing. Yeah, the magnet the magnet factor is a lot of fun. Like magnet factor is a lot of fun. Like magnet factor is a lot of fun. Like >> Oh, it's so good. It's so good. So, >> Oh, it's so good. It's so good. So, >> Oh, it's so good. It's so good. So, yeah, like again, I apologize for yeah, like again, I apologize for yeah, like again, I apologize for fanboying, but fanboying, but fanboying, but >> No, but yeah. Yeah, >> No, but yeah. Yeah, >> No, but yeah. Yeah, >> that plus the marquee plus the art, it >> that plus the marquee plus the art, it >> that plus the marquee plus the art, it all makes sense why you would have a 16 all makes sense why you would have a 16 all makes sense why you would have a 16 by9 screen. It just gives you the by9 screen. It just gives you the by9 screen. It just gives you the flexibility that you need. flexibility that you need. flexibility that you need. >> Yeah, exactly. And then and and >> Yeah, exactly. And then and and >> Yeah, exactly. And then and and everything is all the old stuff is like everything is all the old stuff is like everything is all the old stuff is like forwards compatible, right? So, it's forwards compatible, right? So, it's forwards compatible, right? So, it's like like like >> But you also put a webcam in the thing, >> But you also put a webcam in the thing, >> But you also put a webcam in the thing, which surprised me. There's a webcam at which surprised me. There's a webcam at which surprised me. There's a webcam at the top. Why? Yeah. So that's, you know, the top. Why? Yeah. So that's, you know, the top. Why? Yeah. So that's, you know, originally we wanted there for like originally we wanted there for like originally we wanted there for like people to be streaming or like, you people to be streaming or like, you people to be streaming or like, you know, doing that kind of thing. Um, you know, doing that kind of thing. Um, you know, doing that kind of thing. Um, you know, for commercial use cases or I mean know, for commercial use cases or I mean know, for commercial use cases or I mean for anybody there's like a a photo booth for anybody there's like a a photo booth for anybody there's like a a photo booth app in in our software. So you can, you app in in our software. So you can, you app in in our software. So you can, you know, do that at the very very basic.

know, do that at the very very basic. know, do that at the very very basic. Um, a lot of the like choice to put the Um, a lot of the like choice to put the Um, a lot of the like choice to put the webcam in there is like future looking. webcam in there is like future looking. webcam in there is like future looking. Like we really want to add a bunch of Like we really want to add a bunch of Like we really want to add a bunch of camera features in there on the software camera features in there on the software camera features in there on the software side. Um, we just haven't really gotten side. Um, we just haven't really gotten side. Um, we just haven't really gotten there yet. Um, but definitely think that there yet. Um, but definitely think that there yet. Um, but definitely think that like I mean there's a lot of fun stuff like I mean there's a lot of fun stuff like I mean there's a lot of fun stuff you can do with the camera, right? Like you can do with the camera, right? Like you can do with the camera, right? Like um we could add in like facial um we could add in like facial um we could add in like facial recognition login. recognition login. recognition login. >> Sure. Um, so you know, a family scenario >> Sure. Um, so you know, a family scenario >> Sure. Um, so you know, a family scenario where like you don't have to log in and where like you don't have to log in and where like you don't have to log in and >> little kid gets the little kid menu or >> little kid gets the little kid menu or >> little kid gets the little kid menu or whatever. whatever. whatever. >> Yeah. And like and exactly right. We >> Yeah. And like and exactly right. We >> Yeah. And like and exactly right. We know who's there so we can adjust the know who's there so we can adjust the know who's there so we can adjust the game library appropriately. We can um game library appropriately. We can um game library appropriately. We can um you know know who which account to put you know know who which account to put you know know who which account to put the score under. um you know even when the score under. um you know even when the score under. um you know even when you're playing hot seat um things like you're playing hot seat um things like you're playing hot seat um things like that could you know there's just some that could you know there's just some that could you know there's just some fun stuff that you can start to do with fun stuff that you can start to do with fun stuff that you can start to do with a camera you know um in addition to like a camera you know um in addition to like a camera you know um in addition to like you know would love to we really want to you know would love to we really want to you know would love to we really want to do like some just fun camera filters do like some just fun camera filters do like some just fun camera filters where you can go in and like you know where you can go in and like you know where you can go in and like you know take a picture where you're like I don't take a picture where you're like I don't take a picture where you're like I don't know Rambo or something. Speaking of know Rambo or something. Speaking of know Rambo or something. Speaking of cameras, uh I know that you're you're cameras, uh I know that you're you're cameras, uh I know that you're you're not Cinden, the Cinden Light Gun people, not Cinden, the Cinden Light Gun people, not Cinden, the Cinden Light Gun people, but you have a relationship with the but you have a relationship with the but you have a relationship with the Cinden Light Gun people. As a as a Cinden Light Gun people. As a as a Cinden Light Gun people. As a as a computer programmer myself, it's such a computer programmer myself, it's such a computer programmer myself, it's such a fascinating like nothing hacks a fascinating like nothing hacks a fascinating like nothing hacks a computer more than retro gaming. And

computer more than retro gaming. And computer more than retro gaming. And like light guns work on CRTs and people like light guns work on CRTs and people like light guns work on CRTs and people complain when they can't play Duck Hunt complain when they can't play Duck Hunt complain when they can't play Duck Hunt on a modern LED. on a modern LED. on a modern LED. >> Uh and there's that's because of how >> Uh and there's that's because of how >> Uh and there's that's because of how light guns work. Senden light guns are light guns work. Senden light guns are light guns work. Senden light guns are such a crazy idea. They are a webcam such a crazy idea. They are a webcam such a crazy idea. They are a webcam pointed back at your screen that then pointed back at your screen that then pointed back at your screen that then moves the mouse based on looking at the moves the mouse based on looking at the moves the mouse based on looking at the the square. the square. the square. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And that's just so insane and such a a >> And that's just so insane and such a a >> And that's just so insane and such a a wonderful hack and it just works and wonderful hack and it just works and wonderful hack and it just works and it's freaking delightful. it's freaking delightful. it's freaking delightful. >> Totally. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Totally. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Totally. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're they're they're great and the They're they're they're great and the They're they're they're great and the the guns are I mean they are a little the guns are I mean they are a little the guns are I mean they are a little bit of a pain to get running but um once bit of a pain to get running but um once bit of a pain to get running but um once you do they're the most fun, right? you do they're the most fun, right? you do they're the most fun, right? >> Yeah. Once you get the calibration, I >> Yeah. Once you get the calibration, I >> Yeah. Once you get the calibration, I ended up putting a a light yellow frame. ended up putting a a light yellow frame. ended up putting a a light yellow frame. Some people put a a a uh a white frame, Some people put a a a uh a white frame, Some people put a a a uh a white frame, basically a pixel frame around to make basically a pixel frame around to make basically a pixel frame around to make it clear to the gun that this is the it clear to the gun that this is the it clear to the gun that this is the thing that we're going to be shooting thing that we're going to be shooting thing that we're going to be shooting at. And then you're playing like zombie at. And then you're playing like zombie at. And then you're playing like zombie games and time crisis and stuff like games and time crisis and stuff like games and time crisis and stuff like that. And there's even one uh with that. And there's even one uh with that. And there's even one uh with recoil, so it'll go and go each time. I recoil, so it'll go and go each time. I recoil, so it'll go and go each time. I mean, it's it's about as close to going mean, it's it's about as close to going mean, it's it's about as close to going to Chuck-E-Cheese and playing Terminator to Chuck-E-Cheese and playing Terminator to Chuck-E-Cheese and playing Terminator >> or Jurassic Park that you can possibly >> or Jurassic Park that you can possibly >> or Jurassic Park that you can possibly get. And the the integration again to get. And the the integration again to get. And the the integration again to your credit, I just got the holsters.

your credit, I just got the holsters. your credit, I just got the holsters. They just magnet on and they magnet on They just magnet on and they magnet on They just magnet on and they magnet on securely. Like I thought I was going to securely. Like I thought I was going to securely. Like I thought I was going to have to screw this thing on and drill a have to screw this thing on and drill a have to screw this thing on and drill a hole in the metal. They just popped on. hole in the metal. They just popped on. hole in the metal. They just popped on. >> They're fierce. The the We were stoked >> They're fierce. The the We were stoked >> They're fierce. The the We were stoked when we got those right because the when we got those right because the when we got those right because the first prototype was like way too weak. first prototype was like way too weak. first prototype was like way too weak. And we were like, uhoh, this better And we were like, uhoh, this better And we were like, uhoh, this better work. work. work. >> Oh no. Like I don't know what you did, >> Oh no. Like I don't know what you did, >> Oh no. Like I don't know what you did, but like you don't want it to be so but like you don't want it to be so but like you don't want it to be so magnetic that they're never coming off, magnetic that they're never coming off, magnetic that they're never coming off, but you also don't want them sliding but you also don't want them sliding but you also don't want them sliding around. Whatever you did, you nailed it around. Whatever you did, you nailed it around. Whatever you did, you nailed it because I put them on and it's so because I put them on and it's so because I put them on and it's so satisfying. satisfying. satisfying. >> Yeah. Yeah. Thunk. >> Yeah. Yeah. Thunk. >> Yeah. Yeah. Thunk. >> Yeah. They they thunk on and then you've >> Yeah. They they thunk on and then you've >> Yeah. They they thunk on and then you've got like a holster. got like a holster. got like a holster. >> So super excited about that. And I ended >> So super excited about that. And I ended >> So super excited about that. And I ended up going on eBay and for three bucks I up going on eBay and for three bucks I up going on eBay and for three bucks I got a uh a rock band drum button and I got a uh a rock band drum button and I got a uh a rock band drum button and I made that my my cover button. So I'm made that my my cover button. So I'm made that my my cover button. So I'm hiding behind because again the software hiding behind because again the software hiding behind because again the software is configurable. is configurable. is configurable. >> Yes. Yes. Smart. Yeah. So, uh I I'll >> Yes. Yes. Smart. Yeah. So, uh I I'll >> Yes. Yes. Smart. Yeah. So, uh I I'll give you a little spoiler here. We're give you a little spoiler here. We're give you a little spoiler here. We're we're working on a few new controllers. we're working on a few new controllers. we're working on a few new controllers. Um Um Um >> Oh, yeah. Exclusive. You heard it here >> Oh, yeah. Exclusive. You heard it here >> Oh, yeah. Exclusive. You heard it here first. first. first. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Although, one >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Although, one >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Although, one we've like, you know, teased in the we've like, you know, teased in the we've like, you know, teased in the Kickstarter.

Kickstarter. Kickstarter. >> That's okay. I'm going to pretend that >> That's okay. I'm going to pretend that >> That's okay. I'm going to pretend that uh I'm getting an exclusive here. uh I'm getting an exclusive here. uh I'm getting an exclusive here. >> Yeah. Yeah. The driving wheel. Uh it's I >> Yeah. Yeah. The driving wheel. Uh it's I >> Yeah. Yeah. The driving wheel. Uh it's I mean, we're still working on that. mean, we're still working on that. mean, we're still working on that. >> Oh, the driving wheel. I need to play >> Oh, the driving wheel. I need to play >> Oh, the driving wheel. I need to play Outrun with the driving wheel. Outrun with the driving wheel. Outrun with the driving wheel. >> Yeah. And now keep in mind uh cuz we get >> Yeah. And now keep in mind uh cuz we get >> Yeah. And now keep in mind uh cuz we get this question a lot but um the driving this question a lot but um the driving this question a lot but um the driving wheel controller will be a like wheel controller will be a like wheel controller will be a like universal mounting controller. So universal mounting controller. So universal mounting controller. So >> Oh, interesting. >> Oh, interesting. >> Oh, interesting. >> Um it will work with like PXN and lo >> Um it will work with like PXN and lo >> Um it will work with like PXN and lo Logitech driving wheels. So we are not Logitech driving wheels. So we are not Logitech driving wheels. So we are not providing the driving wheel. You get to providing the driving wheel. You get to providing the driving wheel. You get to choose your own. choose your own. choose your own. >> Oh, nice. So you're giving us a mount. >> Oh, nice. So you're giving us a mount. >> Oh, nice. So you're giving us a mount. And it's worth noting, you really got to And it's worth noting, you really got to And it's worth noting, you really got to go to polycade.com and look at that go to polycade.com and look at that go to polycade.com and look at that opening animation because it is truly opening animation because it is truly opening animation because it is truly impressive the way that you can pull impressive the way that you can pull impressive the way that you can pull these controllers out and make it look these controllers out and make it look these controllers out and make it look like whatever you want. So, I'm going to like whatever you want. So, I'm going to like whatever you want. So, I'm going to pull this controller out, unplug the pull this controller out, unplug the pull this controller out, unplug the USBA out of the back, pop in the mount, USBA out of the back, pop in the mount, USBA out of the back, pop in the mount, and then put on my Logitech, my G I and then put on my Logitech, my G I and then put on my Logitech, my G I forgot the number for it, but the, you forgot the number for it, but the, you forgot the number for it, but the, you know, my Ferrari Logitech controller or know, my Ferrari Logitech controller or know, my Ferrari Logitech controller or whatever, and it's just going to work. whatever, and it's just going to work. whatever, and it's just going to work. >> Yes. Yes. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.

>> Yes. Yes. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yes. Yes. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. >> So good. So good. Um, yeah. So, the >> So good. So good. Um, yeah. So, the >> So good. So good. Um, yeah. So, the driving wheel, that's that's being driving wheel, that's that's being driving wheel, that's that's being worked on. Um, and then the we should worked on. Um, and then the we should worked on. Um, and then the we should see pretty soon here a prototype of the see pretty soon here a prototype of the see pretty soon here a prototype of the four player controller. four player controller. four player controller. >> Oh, now how will that work? Because this >> Oh, now how will that work? Because this >> Oh, now how will that work? Because this is a like I'd love to play Teenage Mut is a like I'd love to play Teenage Mut is a like I'd love to play Teenage Mut Ninja Turtles or The Simpsons. Is it Ninja Turtles or The Simpsons. Is it Ninja Turtles or The Simpsons. Is it going to be cramped? How are we going to going to be cramped? How are we going to going to be cramped? How are we going to fit four players in such a small area? fit four players in such a small area? fit four players in such a small area? >> It will be It will hang over the sides. >> It will be It will hang over the sides. >> It will be It will hang over the sides. >> Oh, so it'll feel like it really did. >> Oh, so it'll feel like it really did. >> Oh, so it'll feel like it really did. It'll have that flare It'll have that flare It'll have that flare >> larger deck. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, this is Is >> larger deck. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, this is Is >> larger deck. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, this is Is it one giant one or is it two? it one giant one or is it two? it one giant one or is it two? >> It's one giant one. >> It's one giant one. >> It's one giant one. >> Oh, this is going to be great. >> Oh, this is going to be great. >> Oh, this is going to be great. >> Yeah, it's going to be heavy. >> Yeah, it's going to be heavy. >> Yeah, it's going to be heavy. >> I'd love that's okay. But the point is >> I'd love that's okay. But the point is >> I'd love that's okay. But the point is you have choice. Like again, if people you have choice. Like again, if people you have choice. Like again, if people are on the video or they look at this on are on the video or they look at this on are on the video or they look at this on TikTok or YouTube, behind you are TikTok or YouTube, behind you are TikTok or YouTube, behind you are actually not just the controllers actually not just the controllers actually not just the controllers hanging on your wall, but you even sell hanging on your wall, but you even sell hanging on your wall, but you even sell wall hangers. So, it is expected this is wall hangers. So, it is expected this is wall hangers. So, it is expected this is a thing that you're going to swap your a thing that you're going to swap your a thing that you're going to swap your controllers. I have, like I said, the controllers. I have, like I said, the controllers. I have, like I said, the Tron controller at the bottom that I use Tron controller at the bottom that I use Tron controller at the bottom that I use with like Afterburner and Tron with like Afterburner and Tron with like Afterburner and Tron >> and things like that.

>> and things like that. >> and things like that. >> Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's another one. The >> Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's another one. The >> Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's another one. The next version of the Tron controller will next version of the Tron controller will next version of the Tron controller will use the um use the um use the um >> Oh my god, look at that. He's holding up >> Oh my god, look at that. He's holding up >> Oh my god, look at that. He's holding up the the It looks like a Tron controller. the the It looks like a Tron controller. the the It looks like a Tron controller. It's got the color. It's translucent. It's got the color. It's translucent. It's got the color. It's translucent. That's gorgeous. That's gorgeous. That's gorgeous. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, we're doing >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, we're doing >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, we're doing some upgrades as we we re-release some some upgrades as we we re-release some some upgrades as we we re-release some of the existing products as well. of the existing products as well. of the existing products as well. >> Fantastic, man. This is great. Um, and >> Fantastic, man. This is great. Um, and >> Fantastic, man. This is great. Um, and then is this this is a virtual business, then is this this is a virtual business, then is this this is a virtual business, but I actually bumped into you in but I actually bumped into you in but I actually bumped into you in Portland, Oregon. We're both in Portland, Oregon. We're both in Portland, Oregon. We're both in Portland. Is that Are you in Portland? Portland. Is that Are you in Portland? Portland. Is that Are you in Portland? Do you live in Portland, or did I just Do you live in Portland, or did I just Do you live in Portland, or did I just see you there because you were doing see you there because you were doing see you there because you were doing some filming? some filming? some filming? >> No. Yeah, I live in Portland. Yeah. >> No. Yeah, I live in Portland. Yeah. >> No. Yeah, I live in Portland. Yeah. >> There's so much creativity in this town. >> There's so much creativity in this town. >> There's so much creativity in this town. >> I know. Yeah. What did I I was out in >> I know. Yeah. What did I I was out in >> I know. Yeah. What did I I was out in New York recently and told someone they New York recently and told someone they New York recently and told someone they were like, "Oh, yeah. What do you do?" were like, "Oh, yeah. What do you do?" were like, "Oh, yeah. What do you do?" And I'm like, "I make arcade machines." And I'm like, "I make arcade machines." And I'm like, "I make arcade machines." They're like, "And you're from They're like, "And you're from They're like, "And you're from Portland?" That's so Portland. Portland?" That's so Portland. Portland?" That's so Portland. >> That is so Portland. That is classically >> That is so Portland. That is classically >> That is so Portland. That is classically Portland. Creativity, creation, making Portland. Creativity, creation, making Portland. Creativity, creation, making stuff, pushing the limits. It's stuff, pushing the limits. It's stuff, pushing the limits. It's absolutely Portland and I love it for absolutely Portland and I love it for absolutely Portland and I love it for you. you. you. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Artisan city.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Artisan city. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Artisan city. >> We are. We are a bunch of artists, >> We are. We are a bunch of artists, >> We are. We are a bunch of artists, aren't we? That's fantastic. Well, this aren't we? That's fantastic. Well, this aren't we? That's fantastic. Well, this has been great. Thank you so much for has been great. Thank you so much for has been great. Thank you so much for chatting with me today. chatting with me today. chatting with me today. >> Yeah. Thanks for having me, Scott. This >> Yeah. Thanks for having me, Scott. This >> Yeah. Thanks for having me, Scott. This is uh super fun. Yeah, is uh super fun. Yeah, is uh super fun. Yeah, >> we have been chatting with Tyler >> we have been chatting with Tyler >> we have been chatting with Tyler Bushnell, founder and CEO of Polycade. I Bushnell, founder and CEO of Polycade. I Bushnell, founder and CEO of Polycade. I am a fan. I uh this is not an am a fan. I uh this is not an am a fan. I uh this is not an advertisement. This is just a love advertisement. This is just a love advertisement. This is just a love letter to retro arcade gaming. I letter to retro arcade gaming. I letter to retro arcade gaming. I encourage you to check out polycade.com. encourage you to check out polycade.com. encourage you to check out polycade.com. I have a Polycade Cente. It's just a I have a Polycade Cente. It's just a I have a Polycade Cente. It's just a fantastic device. It gives you the best fantastic device. It gives you the best fantastic device. It gives you the best of both worlds. You can just play or you of both worlds. You can just play or you of both worlds. You can just play or you can just tinker or you can do a little can just tinker or you can do a little can just tinker or you can do a little bit of both, which is what I enjoy doing bit of both, which is what I enjoy doing bit of both, which is what I enjoy doing on my Polycade Cente. And this has been on my Polycade Cente. And this has been on my Polycade Cente. And this has been another episode of Hansel Minutes. And another episode of Hansel Minutes. And another episode of Hansel Minutes. And we'll see you again next week.