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Tech Hut August 9, 2022 11m

The Death of Mozilla is the Death of the Open Web

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  1. hello everybody this is tech cut in this hello everybody this is tech cut in this video what we're going to be doing is video what we're going to be doing is video what we're going to be doing is talking about firefox specifically their talking about firefox specifically their talking about firefox specifically their parent company mozilla if you watched parent company mozilla if you watched parent company mozilla if you watched any of my videos you probably know that any of my videos you probably know that any of my videos you probably know that firefox generally is my web browser of firefox generally is my web browser of firefox generally is my web browser of choice i've been using it for a good choice i've been using it for a good choice i've been using it for a good number of years and there's some good number of years and there's some good number of years and there's some good reason for that we're going to be reason for that we're going to be reason for that we're going to be talking about that in this video but talking about that in this video but talking about that in this video but we're also going to be covering some of we're also going to be covering some of we're also going to be covering some of the uh controversial decision making the uh controversial decision making the uh controversial decision making that mozilla has made in the past and that mozilla has made in the past and that mozilla has made in the past and even with that why mozilla is even with that why mozilla is even with that why mozilla is absolutely essential for the open source absolutely essential for the open source absolutely essential for the open source community and overall one of the very community and overall one of the very community and overall one of the very few actual positive forces in the few actual positive forces in the few actual positive forces in the desktop web browser market space but desktop web browser market space but desktop web browser market space but before we get too far into this topic i before we get too far into this topic i before we get too far into this topic i have to thank the sponsor of this video have to thank the sponsor of this video have to thank the sponsor of this video grid studio right here i have two of grid studio right here i have two of grid studio right here i have two of their products what these are are their products what these are are their products what these are are beautiful shadow box displays that beautiful shadow box displays that beautiful shadow box displays that feature tore down hardware i mean if feature tore down hardware i mean if feature tore down hardware i mean if you're at all into tech or a tech you're at all into tech or a tech you're at all into tech or a tech enthusiast these are some super cool enthusiast these are some super cool enthusiast these are some super cool things to go ahead and throw on your things to go ahead and throw on your things to go ahead and throw on your wall i've had one back there for quite a wall i've had one back there for quite a wall i've had one back there for quite a while that one's the iphone 5. we've got while that one's the iphone 5. we've got while that one's the iphone 5. we've got the iphone 4s here and the old school the iphone 4s here and the old school the iphone 4s here and the old school classic game boy right here this one is classic game boy right here this one is classic game boy right here this one is my new favorite display looking at their my new favorite display looking at their my new favorite display looking at their product page they have a whole bunch of product page they have a whole bunch of product page they have a whole bunch of different options and shadow boxes that different options and shadow boxes that different options and shadow boxes that you could go and grab if there's some you could go and grab if there's some you could go and grab if there's some old device or something that used to old device or something that used to old device or something that used to have that just was your favorite it is have that just was your favorite it is have that just was your favorite it is awesome to be able to display it on your awesome to be able to display it on your awesome to be able to display it on your wall like this and it's really cool wall like this and it's really cool wall like this and it's really cool because it's kind of an educational because it's kind of an educational because it's kind of an educational piece too because every single component piece too because every single component piece too because every single component of these various devices have labels so of these various devices have labels so of these various devices have labels so you can identify what everything is real you can identify what everything is real you can identify what everything is real easy for example on the 4s there we easy for example on the 4s there we easy for example on the 4s there we could see the main board rear camera

  2. could see the main board rear camera could see the main board rear camera just all the different components super just all the different components super just all the different components super cool over time hopefully i deck out my cool over time hopefully i deck out my cool over time hopefully i deck out my office in them and down below there'll office in them and down below there'll office in them and down below there'll be a coupon code or something to go be a coupon code or something to go be a coupon code or something to go ahead and save yourself a little bit of ahead and save yourself a little bit of ahead and save yourself a little bit of money before we cover any of the firefox money before we cover any of the firefox money before we cover any of the firefox drama let's first talk about why firefox drama let's first talk about why firefox drama let's first talk about why firefox needs to succeed you probably know this needs to succeed you probably know this needs to succeed you probably know this if you look at the current desktop web if you look at the current desktop web if you look at the current desktop web browser market space google chrome makes browser market space google chrome makes browser market space google chrome makes up about 70 or so that is a 70 of the up about 70 or so that is a 70 of the up about 70 or so that is a 70 of the market share being controlled by a market share being controlled by a market share being controlled by a company that makes a vast majority of company that makes a vast majority of company that makes a vast majority of their money off of user data and their money off of user data and their money off of user data and advertising and that company has a advertising and that company has a advertising and that company has a really strong incentive to get as much really strong incentive to get as much really strong incentive to get as much control of just web standards as control of just web standards as control of just web standards as possible to further increase those possible to further increase those possible to further increase those profits this 70 number gets even worse profits this 70 number gets even worse profits this 70 number gets even worse when you include other chromium-based when you include other chromium-based when you include other chromium-based web browsers like brave or even web browsers like brave or even web browsers like brave or even microsoft edge if you count to all microsoft edge if you count to all microsoft edge if you count to all chromium-based browsers that's well over chromium-based browsers that's well over chromium-based browsers that's well over 80 of the total market share on the 80 of the total market share on the 80 of the total market share on the desktop and these numbers get even worse desktop and these numbers get even worse desktop and these numbers get even worse when you start to include mobile devices when you start to include mobile devices when you start to include mobile devices like this uh considering iphones safari like this uh considering iphones safari like this uh considering iphones safari takes up about 25 of the mobile web takes up about 25 of the mobile web takes up about 25 of the mobile web browser market share but if you take browser market share but if you take browser market share but if you take iphones out of the equation you focus iphones out of the equation you focus iphones out of the equation you focus purely on android based devices firefox purely on android based devices firefox purely on android based devices firefox is the only web browser that i'm aware is the only web browser that i'm aware is the only web browser that i'm aware of that doesn't use the chromium engine of that doesn't use the chromium engine of that doesn't use the chromium engine and it only has a 0.5 and it only has a 0.5 and it only has a 0.5 market share so essentially firefox is market share so essentially firefox is market share so essentially firefox is our last hope when it comes to web our last hope when it comes to web our last hope when it comes to web browsers that don't have a chromium base browsers that don't have a chromium base browsers that don't have a chromium base unless if you're using an apple device unless if you're using an apple device unless if you're using an apple device now there are other independent web now there are other independent web now there are other independent web browsers but when it comes to market

  3. browsers but when it comes to market browsers but when it comes to market share those are so low they don't really share those are so low they don't really share those are so low they don't really even have a fighting chance to get even have a fighting chance to get even have a fighting chance to get numbers let alone firefox even if they numbers let alone firefox even if they numbers let alone firefox even if they do at this point considering uh some of do at this point considering uh some of do at this point considering uh some of the hot water that they've been getting the hot water that they've been getting the hot water that they've been getting into which has caused them to lose into which has caused them to lose into which has caused them to lose ground fast in their ground fast in their ground fast in their hold in the market one huge problem with hold in the market one huge problem with hold in the market one huge problem with firefox is it brands itself on being firefox is it brands itself on being firefox is it brands itself on being privacy friendly and not collecting any privacy friendly and not collecting any privacy friendly and not collecting any of your data the problem is that is not of your data the problem is that is not of your data the problem is that is not entirely true for example firefox pings entirely true for example firefox pings entirely true for example firefox pings google for safe browsing to make sure google for safe browsing to make sure google for safe browsing to make sure that the website you're trying to visit that the website you're trying to visit that the website you're trying to visit is safe and it also pings google for is safe and it also pings google for is safe and it also pings google for your geo location which is kind of silly your geo location which is kind of silly your geo location which is kind of silly because mozilla has its very own because mozilla has its very own because mozilla has its very own geo-location service that it doesn't geo-location service that it doesn't geo-location service that it doesn't even use within firefox on top of that even use within firefox on top of that even use within firefox on top of that firefox also has a feature called firefox also has a feature called firefox also has a feature called firefox suggests where it can suggest firefox suggests where it can suggest firefox suggests where it can suggest websites while you're typing the url and websites while you're typing the url and websites while you're typing the url and this will send basically every keystroke this will send basically every keystroke this will send basically every keystroke you type to mozilla another recent not you type to mozilla another recent not you type to mozilla another recent not not as important but still still an not as important but still still an not as important but still still an issue is the overall redesign of firefox issue is the overall redesign of firefox issue is the overall redesign of firefox was not very well received by people in was not very well received by people in was not very well received by people in fact people hated it so much that they fact people hated it so much that they fact people hated it so much that they were creating memes about it yes this were creating memes about it yes this were creating memes about it yes this redesign is the logo that sparked the redesign is the logo that sparked the redesign is the logo that sparked the oversimplified logo meme that was oversimplified logo meme that was oversimplified logo meme that was popular in february of 2021 however popular in february of 2021 however popular in february of 2021 however unsurprisingly this didn't really make unsurprisingly this didn't really make unsurprisingly this didn't really make too much of a difference in their market too much of a difference in their market too much of a difference in their market share with a drop of about 0.2 percent share with a drop of about 0.2 percent share with a drop of about 0.2 percent after the redesign was added in 0.5 after the redesign was added in 0.5 after the redesign was added in 0.5 about a month later however this about a month later however this about a month later however this redesign was an overblown issue uh for redesign was an overblown issue uh for redesign was an overblown issue uh for firefox the issue that should be talked

  4. firefox the issue that should be talked firefox the issue that should be talked about most is where mozilla about most is where mozilla about most is where mozilla makes a vast majority of their money makes a vast majority of their money makes a vast majority of their money which is from their biggest competitor which is from their biggest competitor which is from their biggest competitor google google google firefox using google's geolocation firefox using google's geolocation firefox using google's geolocation services it's in the contract services it's in the contract services it's in the contract despite layoffs in 2020 they've actually despite layoffs in 2020 they've actually despite layoffs in 2020 they've actually had some a decent revenue growth even had some a decent revenue growth even had some a decent revenue growth even though with that about 85 percent of all though with that about 85 percent of all though with that about 85 percent of all of their revenue comes from google being of their revenue comes from google being of their revenue comes from google being the default search engine within firefox the default search engine within firefox the default search engine within firefox which really isn't good because which really isn't good because which really isn't good because considering that most of the things considering that most of the things considering that most of the things mozilla stands against is how google mozilla stands against is how google mozilla stands against is how google makes a profit another way firefox makes makes a profit another way firefox makes makes a profit another way firefox makes money is through pocket however pocket money is through pocket however pocket money is through pocket however pocket for users is kind of annoying because it for users is kind of annoying because it for users is kind of annoying because it fills up new tab pages with a bunch of fills up new tab pages with a bunch of fills up new tab pages with a bunch of recommended articles you probably don't recommended articles you probably don't recommended articles you probably don't care about and of course sponsored posts care about and of course sponsored posts care about and of course sponsored posts you can disable this out of the box but you can disable this out of the box but you can disable this out of the box but it just kind of makes firefox feel like it just kind of makes firefox feel like it just kind of makes firefox feel like your typical microsoft edge or some your typical microsoft edge or some your typical microsoft edge or some other browser with silly features that other browser with silly features that other browser with silly features that you didn't add yourself then how you'd you didn't add yourself then how you'd you didn't add yourself then how you'd assume a completely free and open source assume a completely free and open source assume a completely free and open source web browser should be back to the main web browser should be back to the main web browser should be back to the main issue and that is the google partnership issue and that is the google partnership issue and that is the google partnership this is just just seems like a conflict this is just just seems like a conflict this is just just seems like a conflict of interest to me when it comes to their of interest to me when it comes to their of interest to me when it comes to their morals and principles of the company morals and principles of the company morals and principles of the company it's those principles that makes me it's those principles that makes me it's those principles that makes me dream of the day that uh firefox regains dream of the day that uh firefox regains dream of the day that uh firefox regains market share similar to how it performed market share similar to how it performed market share similar to how it performed in like the late 2000s these principles in like the late 2000s these principles in like the late 2000s these principles are listed on the mozilla manifesto and are listed on the mozilla manifesto and are listed on the mozilla manifesto and they mostly go through how the internet they mostly go through how the internet they mostly go through how the internet is now an integral part of life and how is now an integral part of life and how is now an integral part of life and how the internet needs to remain open and the internet needs to remain open and the internet needs to remain open and accessible to anybody and things like accessible to anybody and things like accessible to anybody and things like security and privacy are a right and security and privacy are a right and security and privacy are a right and shouldn't be treated as just something shouldn't be treated as just something shouldn't be treated as just something that is optional even with the issues

  5. that is optional even with the issues that is optional even with the issues that we've gone through firefox is still that we've gone through firefox is still that we've gone through firefox is still a great browser and has a ton of good a great browser and has a ton of good a great browser and has a ton of good features for example they have a lot of features for example they have a lot of features for example they have a lot of privacy features that are just disabled privacy features that are just disabled privacy features that are just disabled by default it currently has total cookie by default it currently has total cookie by default it currently has total cookie protection which isolates cookies into protection which isolates cookies into protection which isolates cookies into specific websites to prevent cross-site specific websites to prevent cross-site specific websites to prevent cross-site tracking on top of that they do collect tracking on top of that they do collect tracking on top of that they do collect a tiny amount of data but they don't a tiny amount of data but they don't a tiny amount of data but they don't sell your data at all and it's used sell your data at all and it's used sell your data at all and it's used purely to improve firefox except for the purely to improve firefox except for the purely to improve firefox except for the data of course that is pinged to google data of course that is pinged to google data of course that is pinged to google a lot of the modern features that make a lot of the modern features that make a lot of the modern features that make it better than every other browser it better than every other browser it better than every other browser including account syncing picture and including account syncing picture and including account syncing picture and picture modes pocket for saving articles picture modes pocket for saving articles picture modes pocket for saving articles if you don't mind the ads on the if you don't mind the ads on the if you don't mind the ads on the homepage and you actually want to use it homepage and you actually want to use it homepage and you actually want to use it several customization features and even several customization features and even several customization features and even a built-in screenshot utility that i use a built-in screenshot utility that i use a built-in screenshot utility that i use frequently in my videos now another frequently in my videos now another frequently in my videos now another awesome feature that people don't really awesome feature that people don't really awesome feature that people don't really talk about too much is multi-account talk about too much is multi-account talk about too much is multi-account containers this is an extension that you containers this is an extension that you containers this is an extension that you can download by mozilla that allows you can download by mozilla that allows you can download by mozilla that allows you to isolate websites and this is great if to isolate websites and this is great if to isolate websites and this is great if you use websites that you have multiple you use websites that you have multiple you use websites that you have multiple accounts for and you can use these accounts for and you can use these accounts for and you can use these containers to isolate specific tasks for containers to isolate specific tasks for containers to isolate specific tasks for example one thing that some shopping example one thing that some shopping example one thing that some shopping sites do is change prices depending on sites do is change prices depending on sites do is change prices depending on the information that they have about you the information that they have about you the information that they have about you in order to make the most amount of in order to make the most amount of in order to make the most amount of money possible well you can use these money possible well you can use these money possible well you can use these isolated browser instances to prevent isolated browser instances to prevent isolated browser instances to prevent tracking thus preventing that from even tracking thus preventing that from even tracking thus preventing that from even happening at all firefox even has happening at all firefox even has happening at all firefox even has another separate extension to another separate extension to another separate extension to specifically containerize facebook so specifically containerize facebook so specifically containerize facebook so you can prevent facebook from collecting you can prevent facebook from collecting you can prevent facebook from collecting any data connected to you outside of any data connected to you outside of any data connected to you outside of that specific facebook container that specific facebook container that specific facebook container something that i didn't know about until something that i didn't know about until something that i didn't know about until reviewing this script that i'm

  6. reviewing this script that i'm reviewing this script that i'm definitely going to be taking advantage definitely going to be taking advantage definitely going to be taking advantage of but the main benefit to firefox right of but the main benefit to firefox right of but the main benefit to firefox right now is you're not necessarily now is you're not necessarily now is you're not necessarily contributing to google's monopoly on the contributing to google's monopoly on the contributing to google's monopoly on the internet this is the one few ways to not internet this is the one few ways to not internet this is the one few ways to not do that firefox still has a strong do that firefox still has a strong do that firefox still has a strong enough user base that google thinks it's enough user base that google thinks it's enough user base that google thinks it's worth giving them a huge sum of money worth giving them a huge sum of money worth giving them a huge sum of money every year to maintain their contract every year to maintain their contract every year to maintain their contract and the and the and the moderate interconnectiveness of the moderate interconnectiveness of the moderate interconnectiveness of the services and i do understand why they services and i do understand why they services and i do understand why they have to do this it is difficult to make have to do this it is difficult to make have to do this it is difficult to make the amount of money that they need to the amount of money that they need to the amount of money that they need to with from the open source community with from the open source community with from the open source community especially when it's a free project or especially when it's a free project or especially when it's a free project or free product and free product and free product and even in this video my overall attitude even in this video my overall attitude even in this video my overall attitude towards one of the ways that they make towards one of the ways that they make towards one of the ways that they make money pocket isn't positive it's just money pocket isn't positive it's just money pocket isn't positive it's just something i don't like personally but something i don't like personally but something i don't like personally but it's even that attitude that i hold it's even that attitude that i hold it's even that attitude that i hold myself that is not beneficial to firefox myself that is not beneficial to firefox myself that is not beneficial to firefox as a whole and i do kind of wish that as a whole and i do kind of wish that as a whole and i do kind of wish that they would be able to experiment with they would be able to experiment with they would be able to experiment with other ways to make money but with the other ways to make money but with the other ways to make money but with the current google contract it's very current google contract it's very current google contract it's very difficult to do an example of another difficult to do an example of another difficult to do an example of another company that's done this is brave it's a company that's done this is brave it's a company that's done this is brave it's a chromium-based web browser but they chromium-based web browser but they chromium-based web browser but they don't have those contracts with google don't have those contracts with google don't have those contracts with google so they were able to make their own so they were able to make their own so they were able to make their own complete search engine and i don't know complete search engine and i don't know complete search engine and i don't know the specifics of the google firefox the specifics of the google firefox the specifics of the google firefox agreement but it's probably in there agreement but it's probably in there agreement but it's probably in there somewhere that firefox cannot just build somewhere that firefox cannot just build somewhere that firefox cannot just build a competing product like that and with a competing product like that and with a competing product like that and with the amount of market share firefox has the amount of market share firefox has the amount of market share firefox has right now it's not always a guarantee right now it's not always a guarantee right now it's not always a guarantee that web developers will gear their that web developers will gear their that web developers will gear their websites to work perfectly fine on websites to work perfectly fine on websites to work perfectly fine on firefox this is why you see common web

  7. firefox this is why you see common web firefox this is why you see common web apps like microsoft teams having several apps like microsoft teams having several apps like microsoft teams having several performance issues and bugs that are performance issues and bugs that are performance issues and bugs that are exclusive to firefox and that alone can exclusive to firefox and that alone can exclusive to firefox and that alone can be a growing problem into the future and be a growing problem into the future and be a growing problem into the future and when it comes to the development of when it comes to the development of when it comes to the development of firefox they're gonna have to focus firefox they're gonna have to focus firefox they're gonna have to focus around chromium making sure that all the around chromium making sure that all the around chromium making sure that all the websites that work perfectly fine on websites that work perfectly fine on websites that work perfectly fine on chromium will also work on firefox as chromium will also work on firefox as chromium will also work on firefox as that becomes less of a priority for web that becomes less of a priority for web that becomes less of a priority for web developers so overall i hope mozilla can developers so overall i hope mozilla can developers so overall i hope mozilla can get a little bit more creative in some get a little bit more creative in some get a little bit more creative in some of the ways that they can make money so of the ways that they can make money so of the ways that they can make money so they can grow and thrive as a company they can grow and thrive as a company they can grow and thrive as a company and be a little less dependent on and be a little less dependent on and be a little less dependent on other sources of revenue and then with other sources of revenue and then with other sources of revenue and then with that it's our job as people who love and that it's our job as people who love and that it's our job as people who love and use free and open source software on a use free and open source software on a use free and open source software on a daily basis to not completely default to daily basis to not completely default to daily basis to not completely default to being critical of every single way being critical of every single way being critical of every single way mozilla tries to make money for example mozilla tries to make money for example mozilla tries to make money for example one thing that was kind of silly was the one thing that was kind of silly was the one thing that was kind of silly was the uh huge community backlash when they uh huge community backlash when they uh huge community backlash when they decided to start accepting decided to start accepting decided to start accepting cryptocurrencies as donations now cryptocurrencies as donations now cryptocurrencies as donations now i'm not a huge fan of cryptocurrencies i i'm not a huge fan of cryptocurrencies i i'm not a huge fan of cryptocurrencies i have a little bit here and there i don't have a little bit here and there i don't have a little bit here and there i don't really talk about it on the channel it's really talk about it on the channel it's really talk about it on the channel it's not something i'm interested in or not something i'm interested in or not something i'm interested in or necessarily care about if a flop necessarily care about if a flop necessarily care about if a flop tomorrow i didn't wouldn't care if it tomorrow i didn't wouldn't care if it tomorrow i didn't wouldn't care if it blew up tomorrow i wouldn't care but blew up tomorrow i wouldn't care but blew up tomorrow i wouldn't care but people were so mad that they were trying people were so mad that they were trying people were so mad that they were trying to do this it just didn't make sense i to do this it just didn't make sense i to do this it just didn't make sense i understand it's not good for the understand it's not good for the understand it's not good for the environment but it's a way for them to environment but it's a way for them to environment but it's a way for them to make money and if we want them to be make money and if we want them to be make money and if we want them to be able to kind of distance themselves from able to kind of distance themselves from able to kind of distance themselves from their current contracts well you got to their current contracts well you got to their current contracts well you got to be open to things like that there's a be open to things like that there's a be open to things like that there's a lot of people who use cryptocurrencies lot of people who use cryptocurrencies lot of people who use cryptocurrencies you can exchange it for money and that

  8. you can exchange it for money and that you can exchange it for money and that would have been a way to make money would have been a way to make money would have been a way to make money they're still accepting a proof of stake they're still accepting a proof of stake they're still accepting a proof of stake cryptocurrencies but not proof of work cryptocurrencies but not proof of work cryptocurrencies but not proof of work because of uh energy efficiency issues because of uh energy efficiency issues because of uh energy efficiency issues which again i understand but just the which again i understand but just the which again i understand but just the more options the better when it comes to more options the better when it comes to more options the better when it comes to funding projects like this for more funding projects like this for more funding projects like this for more information about this i do recommend information about this i do recommend information about this i do recommend you check out nick's video that covers you check out nick's video that covers you check out nick's video that covers kind of the same topic about why firefox kind of the same topic about why firefox kind of the same topic about why firefox is essential to the future of the open is essential to the future of the open is essential to the future of the open web but the tl dr of that video is web but the tl dr of that video is web but the tl dr of that video is google has too much control over the google has too much control over the google has too much control over the internet and safari has been rather internet and safari has been rather internet and safari has been rather stagnant when it comes to web standards stagnant when it comes to web standards stagnant when it comes to web standards causing it to be kind of the new causing it to be kind of the new causing it to be kind of the new internet explorer and firefox is our internet explorer and firefox is our internet explorer and firefox is our last hope but honestly safari is kind of last hope but honestly safari is kind of last hope but honestly safari is kind of nice i've been using it on the little nice i've been using it on the little nice i've been using it on the little macbook back there and it's a good macbook back there and it's a good macbook back there and it's a good experience i can't lie to you with that experience i can't lie to you with that experience i can't lie to you with that if you want to look more into this i'm if you want to look more into this i'm if you want to look more into this i'm going to be linking down below to going to be linking down below to going to be linking down below to various articles on some things i didn't various articles on some things i didn't various articles on some things i didn't cover in this video and that video by cover in this video and that video by cover in this video and that video by nick so with that i do hope you have an nick so with that i do hope you have an nick so with that i do hope you have an absolutely beautiful day and good bye

Summary

This tech analysis champions Firefox and its parent company Mozilla as essential for the open-source community and the desktop browser market. Despite mentioning controversial past decisions by Mozilla, the video emphasizes Firefox's positive impact and its role as a counter-balance to Google Chrome's market dominance. The takeaway is to recognize and support Firefox's continued importance in fostering an open and less data-driven web.

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