Pi400 but BETTER? - Orange Pi 800 First Look

this right here is the orange Pi 800 and this right here is the orange Pi 800 and this is a little unique for a single this is a little unique for a single this is a little unique for a single board computer it is in fact within a board computer it is in fact within a board computer it is in fact within a keyboard This is the competitor to the keyboard This is the competitor to the keyboard This is the competitor to the Raspberry Pi 400 which is a remarkably Raspberry Pi 400 which is a remarkably Raspberry Pi 400 which is a remarkably similar form factor when it comes to similar form factor when it comes to similar form factor when it comes to everything from the shape the i o really everything from the shape the i o really everything from the shape the i o really just about everything I mean this is a just about everything I mean this is a just about everything I mean this is a teeny bit thicker but uh that's about it teeny bit thicker but uh that's about it teeny bit thicker but uh that's about it now there are some more differences and now there are some more differences and now there are some more differences and primarily to do with the specifications primarily to do with the specifications primarily to do with the specifications this thing is featuring the rocket ship this thing is featuring the rocket ship this thing is featuring the rocket ship rk3399 the exact same processor in the rk3399 the exact same processor in the rk3399 the exact same processor in the other orange pie product we took a look other orange pie product we took a look other orange pie product we took a look at the four LTS model the difference at the four LTS model the difference at the four LTS model the difference between that LTS and this other than the between that LTS and this other than the between that LTS and this other than the keyboard is the LTS model does have a keyboard is the LTS model does have a keyboard is the LTS model does have a little bit more memory as this only has little bit more memory as this only has little bit more memory as this only has four gigabytes of LP ddr4 Ram but it four gigabytes of LP ddr4 Ram but it four gigabytes of LP ddr4 Ram but it does have 64 gigabytes of emmc flash does have 64 gigabytes of emmc flash does have 64 gigabytes of emmc flash storage with orange Pi pre-installed on storage with orange Pi pre-installed on storage with orange Pi pre-installed on that flash storage this Orange 800 does that flash storage this Orange 800 does that flash storage this Orange 800 does support Dual Band Wi-Fi and a sports support Dual Band Wi-Fi and a sports support Dual Band Wi-Fi and a sports Bluetooth 5.0 so you could connect your Bluetooth 5.0 so you could connect your Bluetooth 5.0 so you could connect your wireless devices to it and then when it wireless devices to it and then when it wireless devices to it and then when it comes to the actual i o on this board we comes to the actual i o on this board we comes to the actual i o on this board we have a USB type-c for power right next have a USB type-c for power right next have a USB type-c for power right next to that you have your Pogo pins so you to that you have your Pogo pins so you to that you have your Pogo pins so you can use whatever Raspberry Pi can use whatever Raspberry Pi can use whatever Raspberry Pi accessories or whatever you want to accessories or whatever you want to accessories or whatever you want to utilize those we have auxiliary for utilize those we have auxiliary for utilize those we have auxiliary for headphones we have VGA for display as headphones we have VGA for display as headphones we have VGA for display as well as HDMI just standard got a little well as HDMI just standard got a little well as HDMI just standard got a little SIM card slot so you could boot other SIM card slot so you could boot other SIM card slot so you could boot other operating systems you could actually use operating systems you could actually use operating systems you could actually use the orange pie tool to manipulate that the orange pie tool to manipulate that the orange pie tool to manipulate that if you'd like to gigabit internet two

if you'd like to gigabit internet two if you'd like to gigabit internet two USB 3.0 as well as a USB 2.0 and just USB 3.0 as well as a USB 2.0 and just USB 3.0 as well as a USB 2.0 and just based on this layout you could probably based on this layout you could probably based on this layout you could probably tell that this isn't just some like tell that this isn't just some like tell that this isn't just some like single board computer thrown in here single board computer thrown in here single board computer thrown in here it's actually designed to fit this it's actually designed to fit this it's actually designed to fit this properly now I'm not gonna have to take properly now I'm not gonna have to take properly now I'm not gonna have to take this apart because other YouTubers beat this apart because other YouTubers beat this apart because other YouTubers beat me to the punch I don't want to pry it me to the punch I don't want to pry it me to the punch I don't want to pry it open which is what you have to do to get open which is what you have to do to get open which is what you have to do to get it open but inside you can kind of see it open but inside you can kind of see it open but inside you can kind of see what it looks like now in addition to what it looks like now in addition to what it looks like now in addition to all this we do have a little tiny all this we do have a little tiny all this we do have a little tiny speaker [Music] [Music] it's better than not having anything at it's better than not having anything at it's better than not having anything at all I will say that and on the top here all I will say that and on the top here all I will say that and on the top here we do have a little microphone which we do have a little microphone which we do have a little microphone which we're also going to be testing when we we're also going to be testing when we we're also going to be testing when we dive into the operating system and then dive into the operating system and then dive into the operating system and then over here we just have some basic LED over here we just have some basic LED over here we just have some basic LED indicators now I'm no expert on indicators now I'm no expert on indicators now I'm no expert on keyboards but I do believe that this is keyboards but I do believe that this is keyboards but I do believe that this is a 75 it's basically everything you're a 75 it's basically everything you're a 75 it's basically everything you're going to need you have your function key going to need you have your function key going to need you have your function key row but you will not have your uh 10 key row but you will not have your uh 10 key row but you will not have your uh 10 key over here on the side actually setting over here on the side actually setting over here on the side actually setting this thing down and typing on it is this thing down and typing on it is this thing down and typing on it is fairly comfortable the keys aren't fairly comfortable the keys aren't fairly comfortable the keys aren't clicky or anything I would kind of clicky or anything I would kind of clicky or anything I would kind of compare it to a subpar laptop keyboard compare it to a subpar laptop keyboard compare it to a subpar laptop keyboard not something I'd want to ride on for not something I'd want to ride on for not something I'd want to ride on for hours on end but for just general use hours on end but for just general use hours on end but for just general use it's going to get the job done and of it's going to get the job done and of it's going to get the job done and of course just having this integrated is course just having this integrated is course just having this integrated is really nice because it's just like really nice because it's just like really nice because it's just like having a normal keyboard on your desk having a normal keyboard on your desk having a normal keyboard on your desk but with two or three wires coming out but with two or three wires coming out but with two or three wires coming out of it instead of one it definitely saves of it instead of one it definitely saves of it instead of one it definitely saves some room and it is incredibly portable some room and it is incredibly portable some room and it is incredibly portable and honestly one of my favorite things and honestly one of my favorite things and honestly one of my favorite things to do with these types of little to do with these types of little to do with these types of little singleboard computers well this isn't singleboard computers well this isn't singleboard computers well this isn't really the same form factor but spec really the same form factor but spec really the same form factor but spec wise one of my favorite things to do is

wise one of my favorite things to do is wise one of my favorite things to do is use it as a little server this is cool use it as a little server this is cool use it as a little server this is cool because it's got the keyboard included because it's got the keyboard included because it's got the keyboard included you could like set it on a bookshelf or you could like set it on a bookshelf or you could like set it on a bookshelf or something like this and have your stuff something like this and have your stuff something like this and have your stuff plugged into it and you're good to go plugged into it and you're good to go plugged into it and you're good to go does got that gigabit internet now for does got that gigabit internet now for does got that gigabit internet now for the most part everything has been fine the most part everything has been fine the most part everything has been fine and dandy but I'm going to talk about and dandy but I'm going to talk about and dandy but I'm going to talk about the primary con and that is the fact it the primary con and that is the fact it the primary con and that is the fact it is not a Raspberry Pi if you don't know is not a Raspberry Pi if you don't know is not a Raspberry Pi if you don't know raspberry pies are kind of hard to come raspberry pies are kind of hard to come raspberry pies are kind of hard to come by at the moment at least at a decent by at the moment at least at a decent by at the moment at least at a decent price this thing comes in about a price this thing comes in about a price this thing comes in about a hundred dollars and you can get the hundred dollars and you can get the hundred dollars and you can get the Raspberry Pi 400 on Amazon for about 160 Raspberry Pi 400 on Amazon for about 160 Raspberry Pi 400 on Amazon for about 160 I believe which is definitely more than I believe which is definitely more than I believe which is definitely more than what MSRP is and the specifications on what MSRP is and the specifications on what MSRP is and the specifications on this are technically a little better this are technically a little better this are technically a little better than that Raspberry Pi but the thing than that Raspberry Pi but the thing than that Raspberry Pi but the thing with Raspberry Pi is the software with Raspberry Pi is the software with Raspberry Pi is the software availability is rather extensive if I go availability is rather extensive if I go availability is rather extensive if I go over here to their website I go to over here to their website I go to over here to their website I go to service and download I go to download I service and download I go to download I service and download I go to download I go to my product the orange Pi 800 you go to my product the orange Pi 800 you go to my product the orange Pi 800 you can see that is about what we get when can see that is about what we get when can see that is about what we get when it comes to the downloads Ubuntu Debian it comes to the downloads Ubuntu Debian it comes to the downloads Ubuntu Debian Manjaro Android source code not even in Manjaro Android source code not even in Manjaro Android source code not even in the use easy install and we have some the use easy install and we have some the use easy install and we have some more source code and some official tools more source code and some official tools more source code and some official tools now it is cool they have Manjaro out of now it is cool they have Manjaro out of now it is cool they have Manjaro out of all these that's probably what I would all these that's probably what I would all these that's probably what I would end up installing on this and one thing end up installing on this and one thing end up installing on this and one thing that I saw that was kind of funny is if that I saw that was kind of funny is if that I saw that was kind of funny is if we go under user manuals they have some we go under user manuals they have some we go under user manuals they have some folders that seem promising the folders that seem promising the folders that seem promising the schematic for example is uh empty not to schematic for example is uh empty not to schematic for example is uh empty not to mention that this is a Google Drive mention that this is a Google Drive mention that this is a Google Drive which eh mechanical maybe nope nothing which eh mechanical maybe nope nothing which eh mechanical maybe nope nothing how about user manual it would be nice how about user manual it would be nice how about user manual it would be nice to have a copy of the user manual well to have a copy of the user manual well to have a copy of the user manual well unfortunately this is just a test report unfortunately this is just a test report unfortunately this is just a test report and like a certificate of compliance and like a certificate of compliance and like a certificate of compliance which I mean it's nice those documents

which I mean it's nice those documents which I mean it's nice those documents are public but it's not what I was are public but it's not what I was are public but it's not what I was looking for now what we're going to do looking for now what we're going to do looking for now what we're going to do is actually plug this guy and try out is actually plug this guy and try out is actually plug this guy and try out orange pios which is pre-installed but orange pios which is pre-installed but orange pios which is pre-installed but first since we already have a web first since we already have a web first since we already have a web browser open here we might as well check browser open here we might as well check browser open here we might as well check out the sponsor of today's video lenode out the sponsor of today's video lenode out the sponsor of today's video lenode now just real quick I've been using now just real quick I've been using now just real quick I've been using linode forever 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see orange pie booting up for us and can see orange pie booting up for us and can see orange pie booting up for us and we are in we are sitting pretty so you we are in we are sitting pretty so you we are in we are sitting pretty so you can see it's xfce so you're just gonna can see it's xfce so you're just gonna can see it's xfce so you're just gonna have standard application and setting have standard application and setting have standard application and setting menus here it is a lower powered system menus here it is a lower powered system menus here it is a lower powered system so it is nice that they're using this so it is nice that they're using this so it is nice that they're using this now before we get into web browser and now before we get into web browser and now before we get into web browser and actual General use cases that you might actual General use cases that you might actual General use cases that you might want to use for this board I quickly want to use for this board I quickly want to use for this board I quickly want to show off their little little want to show off their little little want to show off their little little orange pie config tool which is kind of

orange pie config tool which is kind of orange pie config tool which is kind of a Tui based utility or terminal user a Tui based utility or terminal user a Tui based utility or terminal user interface the default password for interface the default password for interface the default password for everything is orange pi and in this kind everything is orange pi and in this kind everything is orange pi and in this kind of a interface you could actually go of a interface you could actually go of a interface you could actually go ahead and change that make this a little ahead and change that make this a little ahead and change that make this a little bigger so you can see it better and here bigger so you can see it better and here bigger so you can see it better and here we have some options for system Network we have some options for system Network we have some options for system Network personal software and links to their personal software and links to their personal software and links to their documentation which might check because documentation which might check because documentation which might check because it wasn't where it should have been but it wasn't where it should have been but it wasn't where it should have been but for example if we go into system for example if we go into system for example if we go into system settings it's going to load that you settings it's going to load that you settings it's going to load that you could change your CPU speed in Governor could change your CPU speed in Governor could change your CPU speed in Governor under software you can install some under software you can install some under software you can install some third-party software through here but of third-party software through here but of third-party software through here but of course this is Ubuntu so theoretically course this is Ubuntu so theoretically course this is Ubuntu so theoretically you just use the terminal you have softy you just use the terminal you have softy you just use the terminal you have softy which is a third-party application which is a third-party application which is a third-party application installer and they have some other stuff installer and they have some other stuff installer and they have some other stuff that they recommend here let's go ahead that they recommend here let's go ahead that they recommend here let's go ahead and grab softy oh it's a module within and grab softy oh it's a module within and grab softy oh it's a module within here oh so we only have a couple options here oh so we only have a couple options here oh so we only have a couple options you could get a couple media servers you could get a couple media servers you could get a couple media servers Docker and some other stuff through here Docker and some other stuff through here Docker and some other stuff through here not really worth using you can connect not really worth using you can connect not really worth using you can connect the network through here and all that the network through here and all that the network through here and all that this is a really nice thing to have if this is a really nice thing to have if this is a really nice thing to have if you're using this as a server and you you're using this as a server and you you're using this as a server and you don't have this actual user interface don't have this actual user interface don't have this actual user interface accessible to you because I just go accessible to you because I just go accessible to you because I just go ahead and connect to my Wi-Fi through ahead and connect to my Wi-Fi through ahead and connect to my Wi-Fi through here for example but that's just here for example but that's just here for example but that's just something I wanted to point out you can something I wanted to point out you can something I wanted to point out you can see right here I have a geekbench folder see right here I have a geekbench folder see right here I have a geekbench folder I did go ahead and run some basic I did go ahead and run some basic I did go ahead and run some basic benchmarking on this and of course it benchmarking on this and of course it benchmarking on this and of course it has the same processor so it basically has the same processor so it basically has the same processor so it basically is right in line with the orange Pi 4 is right in line with the orange Pi 4 is right in line with the orange Pi 4 LTS which is right in the 280 range for LTS which is right in the 280 range for LTS which is right in the 280 range for a single score and high 600 low 700s for a single score and high 600 low 700s for a single score and high 600 low 700s for the multi-core score so you can see the the multi-core score so you can see the the multi-core score so you can see the 800 here the 4 here and if we go down 800 here the 4 here and if we go down 800 here the 4 here and if we go down just to a regular old Raspberry Pi 4 and just to a regular old Raspberry Pi 4 and just to a regular old Raspberry Pi 4 and here it is it's not a huge difference

here it is it's not a huge difference here it is it's not a huge difference but 280 compared to 230 and low 700 but 280 compared to 230 and low 700 but 280 compared to 230 and low 700 compared to 650 you do have a little bit compared to 650 you do have a little bit compared to 650 you do have a little bit of gain there but in my opinion the of gain there but in my opinion the of gain there but in my opinion the software availability in the pi software availability in the pi software availability in the pi Community still has a edge definitely Community still has a edge definitely Community still has a edge definitely I'll give up 10 even 20 for that back to I'll give up 10 even 20 for that back to I'll give up 10 even 20 for that back to the orange pie here what we're going to the orange pie here what we're going to the orange pie here what we're going to do is open up our trusty web browser we do is open up our trusty web browser we do is open up our trusty web browser we have Mozilla Firefox and I'm going to have Mozilla Firefox and I'm going to have Mozilla Firefox and I'm going to try not to cut the video at all here so try not to cut the video at all here so try not to cut the video at all here so you can see how long it takes here we you can see how long it takes here we you can see how long it takes here we are didn't think too long to open up and are didn't think too long to open up and are didn't think too long to open up and like I said it is uh usable so if I go like I said it is uh usable so if I go like I said it is uh usable so if I go to one of the best websites in the world to one of the best websites in the world to one of the best websites in the world uh techhut.tv you can see that if I go uh techhut.tv you can see that if I go uh techhut.tv you can see that if I go ahead and open something it loads it ahead and open something it loads it ahead and open something it loads it Scrolls completely fine there's no major Scrolls completely fine there's no major Scrolls completely fine there's no major stutters or lags or issues it's having stutters or lags or issues it's having stutters or lags or issues it's having can I open up so I have H top it does can I open up so I have H top it does can I open up so I have H top it does have H top cool so we'll kind of throw have H top cool so we'll kind of throw have H top cool so we'll kind of throw this over here off to the side even with this over here off to the side even with this over here off to the side even with a Firefox open here it's using less than a Firefox open here it's using less than a Firefox open here it's using less than a gigabyte of ram which is nice I'm a gigabyte of ram which is nice I'm a gigabyte of ram which is nice I'm gonna go ahead and keep this webpage gonna go ahead and keep this webpage gonna go ahead and keep this webpage open but I'm also going to open up their open but I'm also going to open up their open but I'm also going to open up their eye youtube.com you can see during the eye youtube.com you can see during the eye youtube.com you can see during the web page load we do have a CPU Spike web page load we do have a CPU Spike web page load we do have a CPU Spike there but nothing too major Ram goes up there but nothing too major Ram goes up there but nothing too major Ram goes up just a smidge it is taking a bit for just a smidge it is taking a bit for just a smidge it is taking a bit for this page to load but that I am not this page to load but that I am not this page to load but that I am not shocked about if I load up a YouTube shocked about if I load up a YouTube shocked about if I load up a YouTube video here this is where we can actually video here this is where we can actually video here this is where we can actually see if it can handle it let's load up see if it can handle it let's load up see if it can handle it let's load up the Linux Rabbit Hole shall we good the Linux Rabbit Hole shall we good the Linux Rabbit Hole shall we good video you should check it out which this video you should check it out which this video you should check it out which this video only goes up to 1080P and it video only goes up to 1080P and it video only goes up to 1080P and it defaulted us at 1080p uh it is defaulted us at 1080p uh it is defaulted us at 1080p uh it is definitely a cooking oh over here a definitely a cooking oh over here a definitely a cooking oh over here a little bit we have a 1.9 gigs of RAM but

little bit we have a 1.9 gigs of RAM but little bit we have a 1.9 gigs of RAM but but the the CPU is definitely being used but the the CPU is definitely being used but the the CPU is definitely being used kind of skip around a bit here let's try kind of skip around a bit here let's try kind of skip around a bit here let's try to see if we can get it to throttle hard to see if we can get it to throttle hard to see if we can get it to throttle hard which there it goes that's now it's which there it goes that's now it's which there it goes that's now it's cooking but once it kind of catches its cooking but once it kind of catches its cooking but once it kind of catches its breath a little bit it goes back into uh breath a little bit it goes back into uh breath a little bit it goes back into uh average territory for 1080p the actual average territory for 1080p the actual average territory for 1080p the actual video itself doesn't have any video itself doesn't have any video itself doesn't have any significant stutters or anything like significant stutters or anything like significant stutters or anything like that so it is running it it's usable and that so it is running it it's usable and that so it is running it it's usable and granted this is with something in the granted this is with something in the granted this is with something in the background here now another use case for background here now another use case for background here now another use case for this would be a light office work photo this would be a light office work photo this would be a light office work photo editing and I do believe is on here editing and I do believe is on here editing and I do believe is on here so if we go to Graphics we have the gnu so if we go to Graphics we have the gnu so if we go to Graphics we have the gnu image manipulation program go ahead and image manipulation program go ahead and image manipulation program go ahead and open that up this might take a little open that up this might take a little open that up this might take a little bit longer to load yeah that wasn't too bit longer to load yeah that wasn't too bit longer to load yeah that wasn't too bad if we go file we want new let's do a bad if we go file we want new let's do a bad if we go file we want new let's do a 1080p canvas let's zoom in a little bit 1080p canvas let's zoom in a little bit 1080p canvas let's zoom in a little bit here grab a paintbrush make a new layer here grab a paintbrush make a new layer here grab a paintbrush make a new layer here that we could draw on and it is a here that we could draw on and it is a here that we could draw on and it is a little chop you can see I'm going to little chop you can see I'm going to little chop you can see I'm going to swing up and over and it has a little swing up and over and it has a little swing up and over and it has a little bit of delay following me so that's just bit of delay following me so that's just bit of delay following me so that's just something to keep note of there and of something to keep note of there and of something to keep note of there and of course I don't need to open up a text course I don't need to open up a text course I don't need to open up a text editor and show you that it can type editor and show you that it can type editor and show you that it can type that's honestly a light web browsing that's honestly a light web browsing that's honestly a light web browsing text editing emails that's probably the text editing emails that's probably the text editing emails that's probably the best use case for this thing overall I best use case for this thing overall I best use case for this thing overall I like it I like the form factor like it I like the form factor like it I like the form factor um tell me down below what do you think um tell me down below what do you think um tell me down below what do you think of it is buying something like this a of it is buying something like this a of it is buying something like this a Raspberry Pi alternative worth it to you Raspberry Pi alternative worth it to you Raspberry Pi alternative worth it to you I know I have a couple other devices I know I have a couple other devices I know I have a couple other devices here that are worth it to me I have this here that are worth it to me I have this here that are worth it to me I have this guy right here this is a banana pie I'm guy right here this is a banana pie I'm guy right here this is a banana pie I'm gonna go ahead and check out it actually gonna go ahead and check out it actually gonna go ahead and check out it actually kind of has a bit of a unique form kind of has a bit of a unique form kind of has a bit of a unique form factor there and actually this right

factor there and actually this right factor there and actually this right here is another banana pie product that here is another banana pie product that here is another banana pie product that is a bit dramatic now this is a bit dramatic now this is a bit dramatic now this is a single board computer it's actually is a single board computer it's actually is a single board computer it's actually technically a single board router but technically a single board router but technically a single board router but I'm going to use it as a computer damn I'm going to use it as a computer damn I'm going to use it as a computer damn it look it has M2 I mean it has some m.2 it look it has M2 I mean it has some m.2 it look it has M2 I mean it has some m.2 and some mini pcie got all the Pogo pins and some mini pcie got all the Pogo pins and some mini pcie got all the Pogo pins your heart can desire and SATA subscribe your heart can desire and SATA subscribe your heart can desire and SATA subscribe if you do not want to miss this video if you do not want to miss this video if you do not want to miss this video with all that I do hope you have an with all that I do hope you have an with all that I do hope you have an absolutely beautiful day and good bye