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60 Minutes rewind. 60 Minutes rewind. Six years ago, when Navy Seals hunted Six years ago, when Navy Seals hunted Six years ago, when Navy Seals hunted down and killed Osama bin Laden, it down and killed Osama bin Laden, it down and killed Osama bin Laden, it seemed as if the United States had the seemed as if the United States had the seemed as if the United States had the upper hand in the fight against upper hand in the fight against upper hand in the fight against al-Qaeda. But while the US has decimated al-Qaeda. But while the US has decimated al-Qaeda. But while the US has decimated its leadership with targeted strikes, its leadership with targeted strikes, its leadership with targeted strikes, there are new concerns that al-Qaeda has there are new concerns that al-Qaeda has there are new concerns that al-Qaeda has continued to grow and get stronger. Ali continued to grow and get stronger. Ali continued to grow and get stronger. Ali Sufan, who was the FBI's lead Sufan, who was the FBI's lead Sufan, who was the FBI's lead investigator of al-Qaeda after the 9/11 investigator of al-Qaeda after the 9/11 investigator of al-Qaeda after the 9/11 attacks, has spent the last two years attacks, has spent the last two years attacks, has spent the last two years analyzing an unprecedented cache of analyzing an unprecedented cache of analyzing an unprecedented cache of documents seized in Bin Laden's documents seized in Bin Laden's documents seized in Bin Laden's compound. A treasure trove, in the words compound. A treasure trove, in the words compound. A treasure trove, in the words of the US government, including the of the US government, including the of the US government, including the personal correspondence of Osama bin personal correspondence of Osama bin personal correspondence of Osama bin Laden, al-Qaeda's dangerous new Laden, al-Qaeda's dangerous new Laden, al-Qaeda's dangerous new strategy, and the story of a new bin strategy, and the story of a new bin strategy, and the story of a new bin Laden waiting in the wings. Laden waiting in the wings. Laden waiting in the wings. Osama bin Laden was not just, you know, Osama bin Laden was not just, you know, Osama bin Laden was not just, you know, sitting in his house trying to avoid sitting in his house trying to avoid sitting in his house trying to avoid being captured or killed. He was in some being captured or killed. He was in some being captured or killed. He was in some instance micromanaging al-Qaeda and its instance micromanaging al-Qaeda and its instance micromanaging al-Qaeda and its affiliates.

affiliates. affiliates. >> Micromanaging. >> Micromanaging. >> Micromanaging. >> Yeah. Micromanaging. You know, you can >> Yeah. Micromanaging. You know, you can >> Yeah. Micromanaging. You know, you can plant this crops and this crops. It's plant this crops and this crops. It's plant this crops and this crops. It's very good. Uh oh, and by the way, you very good. Uh oh, and by the way, you very good. Uh oh, and by the way, you know, stop beheading people and cutting know, stop beheading people and cutting know, stop beheading people and cutting heads. That makes me look bad. You know, heads. That makes me look bad. You know, heads. That makes me look bad. You know, I have a brand to protect. I mean, I have a brand to protect. I mean, I have a brand to protect. I mean, >> that's Ali Sufan's interpretation of >> that's Ali Sufan's interpretation of >> that's Ali Sufan's interpretation of some of the documents seized from Bin some of the documents seized from Bin some of the documents seized from Bin Laden's hideout in Pakistan, showing him Laden's hideout in Pakistan, showing him Laden's hideout in Pakistan, showing him running al-Qaeda like a corporate CEO, running al-Qaeda like a corporate CEO, running al-Qaeda like a corporate CEO, worried about the reputation of his worried about the reputation of his worried about the reputation of his brand. Deciphering the inner workings of brand. Deciphering the inner workings of brand. Deciphering the inner workings of al-Qaeda has been a life's work for al-Qaeda has been a life's work for al-Qaeda has been a life's work for Sufan, a Muslim American who was born in Sufan, a Muslim American who was born in Sufan, a Muslim American who was born in Lebanon. He was the only Arabic-speaking Lebanon. He was the only Arabic-speaking Lebanon. He was the only Arabic-speaking FBI agent based in New York on 911. He FBI agent based in New York on 911. He FBI agent based in New York on 911. He now advises the United States government now advises the United States government now advises the United States government on national security issues and has on national security issues and has on national security issues and has written a new book, Anatomy of Terror. written a new book, Anatomy of Terror. written a new book, Anatomy of Terror. >> I mean, how useful are they? Do they >> I mean, how useful are they? Do they >> I mean, how useful are they? Do they tell you where al-Qaeda's next attack is tell you where al-Qaeda's next attack is tell you where al-Qaeda's next attack is going to be? going to be? going to be? >> They won't tell you where al-Qaeda next >> They won't tell you where al-Qaeda next >> They won't tell you where al-Qaeda next attack is going to be, but it gives you attack is going to be, but it gives you attack is going to be, but it gives you kind of a window of the internal kind of a window of the internal kind of a window of the internal dynamics of the organization. The dynamics of the organization. The dynamics of the organization. The declassified documents include Osama bin declassified documents include Osama bin declassified documents include Osama bin Laden's handwritten will with Laden's handwritten will with Laden's handwritten will with instructions that holdings of about $29 instructions that holdings of about $29 instructions that holdings of about $29 million should be spent on fighting in million should be spent on fighting in million should be spent on fighting in the cause of Allah, orders to militants the cause of Allah, orders to militants the cause of Allah, orders to militants to travel on cloudy days to avoid drone to travel on cloudy days to avoid drone to travel on cloudy days to avoid drone strikes, and al-Qaeda directives that strikes, and al-Qaeda directives that strikes, and al-Qaeda directives that future attacks should not be wasted on future attacks should not be wasted on future attacks should not be wasted on the British, but instead concentrate on the British, but instead concentrate on the British, but instead concentrate on America and not be limited to blowing up

America and not be limited to blowing up America and not be limited to blowing up airplanes. Ali Sufan says some of the airplanes. Ali Sufan says some of the airplanes. Ali Sufan says some of the most significant documents shed light on most significant documents shed light on most significant documents shed light on a mysterious and menacing new figure in a mysterious and menacing new figure in a mysterious and menacing new figure in al-Qaeda who may be poised to become al-Qaeda who may be poised to become al-Qaeda who may be poised to become leader. He's youthful, angry, and named leader. He's youthful, angry, and named leader. He's youthful, angry, and named Bin Laden. Hamza bin Laden, the son of Bin Laden. Hamza bin Laden, the son of Bin Laden. Hamza bin Laden, the son of Assama. Seen here as a young boy, he was Assama. Seen here as a young boy, he was Assama. Seen here as a young boy, he was separated from his father when he went separated from his father when he went separated from his father when he went into hiding not long after 9/11. into hiding not long after 9/11. into hiding not long after 9/11. This is a letter from Hamza bin Laden to This is a letter from Hamza bin Laden to This is a letter from Hamza bin Laden to his father his father his father >> and he hasn't seen his father for >> and he hasn't seen his father for >> and he hasn't seen his father for several years, several years, several years, >> eight years, and he didn't see his dad. >> eight years, and he didn't see his dad. >> eight years, and he didn't see his dad. Um, and he's basically just telling him Um, and he's basically just telling him Um, and he's basically just telling him uh, you know, how much he misses him. He uh, you know, how much he misses him. He uh, you know, how much he misses him. He uh, tells him that, you know, I remember uh, tells him that, you know, I remember uh, tells him that, you know, I remember every every look you looked at me, every every every look you looked at me, every every every look you looked at me, every smile you gave me, every word you told smile you gave me, every word you told smile you gave me, every word you told me. The letter written when Hamza was me. The letter written when Hamza was me. The letter written when Hamza was around 22 years old also reveals a son around 22 years old also reveals a son around 22 years old also reveals a son eager to follow in his father's eager to follow in his father's eager to follow in his father's footsteps. I consider myself to be footsteps. I consider myself to be footsteps. I consider myself to be forged in steel. He writes, "The path of forged in steel. He writes, "The path of forged in steel. He writes, "The path of jihad for the sake of God is what we jihad for the sake of God is what we jihad for the sake of God is what we live."

live." live." >> Before these documents were obtained, >> Before these documents were obtained, >> Before these documents were obtained, almost nothing was known about Hamza bin almost nothing was known about Hamza bin almost nothing was known about Hamza bin Laden. The few photographs and videos Laden. The few photographs and videos Laden. The few photographs and videos that do exist show him as a child, that do exist show him as a child, that do exist show him as a child, mostly featured in al-Qaeda propaganda. >> He was that kid that exhibited >> He was that kid that exhibited leadership skills early on. leadership skills early on. leadership skills early on. >> So he was a kind of al-Qaeda child star. >> So he was a kind of al-Qaeda child star. >> So he was a kind of al-Qaeda child star. Is that right? Is that right? Is that right? >> In a way, he was a poster kid for >> In a way, he was a poster kid for >> In a way, he was a poster kid for al-Qaeda. They featured him in so many al-Qaeda. They featured him in so many al-Qaeda. They featured him in so many of their uh propaganda and for members of their uh propaganda and for members of their uh propaganda and for members of al-Qaeda who were indoctrinated with of al-Qaeda who were indoctrinated with of al-Qaeda who were indoctrinated with these propaganda videos. Uh he means a these propaganda videos. Uh he means a these propaganda videos. Uh he means a lot to them. lot to them. lot to them. >> Now believed to be about 28 years old. >> Now believed to be about 28 years old. >> Now believed to be about 28 years old. In January he was classified by the US In January he was classified by the US In January he was classified by the US as a specially designated global as a specially designated global as a specially designated global terrorist. The same label once given to terrorist. The same label once given to terrorist. The same label once given to his father. Since there are no known his father. Since there are no known his father. Since there are no known photos of Hamza as an adult, we asked a photos of Hamza as an adult, we asked a photos of Hamza as an adult, we asked a forensic artist to create this age forensic artist to create this age forensic artist to create this age progression illustration to give us an progression illustration to give us an progression illustration to give us an idea of what Hamza bin Laden might look idea of what Hamza bin Laden might look idea of what Hamza bin Laden might look like today.

like today. like today. >> Does Hamza resemble his father? >> Does Hamza resemble his father? >> Does Hamza resemble his father? >> We believe so. >> We believe so. >> We believe so. >> Does he also sound like him? Well, >> Does he also sound like him? Well, >> Does he also sound like him? Well, interestingly enough, his recent message interestingly enough, his recent message interestingly enough, his recent message that came out, he delivered the speech that came out, he delivered the speech that came out, he delivered the speech as if it's his father delivering the as if it's his father delivering the as if it's his father delivering the speech using sentences, speech using sentences, speech using sentences, terminology that was used by Osama bin terminology that was used by Osama bin terminology that was used by Osama bin Laden. Laden. Laden. >> Hamza bin Laden has recorded four audio >> Hamza bin Laden has recorded four audio >> Hamza bin Laden has recorded four audio messages all in the last two years. Ali messages all in the last two years. Ali messages all in the last two years. Ali Sufan believes the similarities with his Sufan believes the similarities with his Sufan believes the similarities with his famously charismatic father could help famously charismatic father could help famously charismatic father could help Hamza unite and inspire the jihadi Hamza unite and inspire the jihadi Hamza unite and inspire the jihadi movement. >> He's basically saying, "America and >> He's basically saying, "America and American people, American people, American people, we're coming and you're going to feel it we're coming and you're going to feel it we're coming and you're going to feel it and we're going to take revenge for what and we're going to take revenge for what and we're going to take revenge for what you did to my father. We're going to you did to my father. We're going to you did to my father. We're going to revenge what you did in Iraq. We're revenge what you did in Iraq. We're revenge what you did in Iraq. We're going to revenge what you did in uh going to revenge what you did in uh going to revenge what you did in uh Afghanistan. Afghanistan. Afghanistan. >> He still wants vengeance. Oh, >> He still wants vengeance. Oh, >> He still wants vengeance. Oh, >> absolutely. The whole thing was about >> absolutely. The whole thing was about >> absolutely. The whole thing was about vengeance. He want avenge his dad.

vengeance. He want avenge his dad. vengeance. He want avenge his dad. >> After 9/11, to avoid being captured or >> After 9/11, to avoid being captured or >> After 9/11, to avoid being captured or killed, Hamza fled to Iran with his killed, Hamza fled to Iran with his killed, Hamza fled to Iran with his mother and three of Bin Laden's top mother and three of Bin Laden's top mother and three of Bin Laden's top lieutenants. Ali Sufan believes these lieutenants. Ali Sufan believes these lieutenants. Ali Sufan believes these men were responsible for educating Hamza men were responsible for educating Hamza men were responsible for educating Hamza in extremist Islam and military tactics. in extremist Islam and military tactics. in extremist Islam and military tactics. He was educated by some of the founding He was educated by some of the founding He was educated by some of the founding members of al-Qaeda. He was educated by members of al-Qaeda. He was educated by members of al-Qaeda. He was educated by people who masterminded the East Africa people who masterminded the East Africa people who masterminded the East Africa embassy bombing, the USS Cole, by people embassy bombing, the USS Cole, by people embassy bombing, the USS Cole, by people who basically secured al-Qaeda from the who basically secured al-Qaeda from the who basically secured al-Qaeda from the day it started until uh 911 and they day it started until uh 911 and they day it started until uh 911 and they were preparing him to be the leader. were preparing him to be the leader. were preparing him to be the leader. >> You think they were consciously grooming >> You think they were consciously grooming >> You think they were consciously grooming him to be a future leader of al-Qaeda? him to be a future leader of al-Qaeda? him to be a future leader of al-Qaeda? >> I believe so. And also um Hamza himself >> I believe so. And also um Hamza himself >> I believe so. And also um Hamza himself basically told his father, "I am ready. basically told his father, "I am ready. basically told his father, "I am ready. I am forge of steel now. I'm ready to I am forge of steel now. I'm ready to I am forge of steel now. I'm ready to go." go." go." >> Osama bin Laden was killed before he >> Osama bin Laden was killed before he >> Osama bin Laden was killed before he could be reunited with his son who Ali could be reunited with his son who Ali could be reunited with his son who Ali Sufan believes is now hiding somewhere Sufan believes is now hiding somewhere Sufan believes is now hiding somewhere in Pakistan.

in Pakistan. in Pakistan. Unraveling the secret world of the Bin Unraveling the secret world of the Bin Unraveling the secret world of the Bin Ladens, Sufan says, is crucial to Ladens, Sufan says, is crucial to Ladens, Sufan says, is crucial to stopping another attack like 9/11. stopping another attack like 9/11. stopping another attack like 9/11. Someone who knows you told me that you Someone who knows you told me that you Someone who knows you told me that you actually feel a sense of responsibility actually feel a sense of responsibility actually feel a sense of responsibility for what happened. for what happened. for what happened. >> You know, in a way, it's hard not to. >> You know, in a way, it's hard not to. >> You know, in a way, it's hard not to. It's hard not to. It won't be honest to It's hard not to. It won't be honest to It's hard not to. It won't be honest to say that, you know, say that, you know, say that, you know, I don't feel a sense of responsibility I don't feel a sense of responsibility I don't feel a sense of responsibility that they think could have been stopped. that they think could have been stopped. that they think could have been stopped. >> But no one in their right mind would >> But no one in their right mind would >> But no one in their right mind would hold you responsible for that. hold you responsible for that. hold you responsible for that. >> That's true. But you know what? We were >> That's true. But you know what? We were >> That's true. But you know what? We were involved in an investigation. We had all involved in an investigation. We had all involved in an investigation. We had all the information on our fingertips. the information on our fingertips. the information on our fingertips. >> You were so close. >> You were so close. >> You were so close. >> It does not matter how close we were. It >> It does not matter how close we were. It >> It does not matter how close we were. It happened. We failed. 3,000 people died. happened. We failed. 3,000 people died. happened. We failed. 3,000 people died. The world is very different today. The world is very different today. The world is very different today. >> Because of our failure. >> Because of our failure. >> Because of our failure. >> You've said that you felt a kind of >> You've said that you felt a kind of >> You've said that you felt a kind of dread before 9/11. Yes. dread before 9/11. Yes. dread before 9/11. Yes. >> Do you feel that same kind of dread >> Do you feel that same kind of dread >> Do you feel that same kind of dread today about the threat from al-Qaeda?

today about the threat from al-Qaeda? today about the threat from al-Qaeda? >> Absolutely. I mean look, you know, if >> Absolutely. I mean look, you know, if >> Absolutely. I mean look, you know, if you look at 911, al-Qaeda had only about you look at 911, al-Qaeda had only about you look at 911, al-Qaeda had only about 400 members. They were based in 400 members. They were based in 400 members. They were based in Afghanistan. If you look at al-Qaeda Afghanistan. If you look at al-Qaeda Afghanistan. If you look at al-Qaeda today, they have thousands and thousands today, they have thousands and thousands today, they have thousands and thousands of members all over the Middle East. of members all over the Middle East. of members all over the Middle East. >> Al-Qaeda now has footholds in around a >> Al-Qaeda now has footholds in around a >> Al-Qaeda now has footholds in around a dozen countries throughout the Middle dozen countries throughout the Middle dozen countries throughout the Middle East, Africa, and into South Asia. East, Africa, and into South Asia. East, Africa, and into South Asia. In Syria alone, it's estimated to have In Syria alone, it's estimated to have In Syria alone, it's estimated to have up to 20,000 followers. up to 20,000 followers. up to 20,000 followers. Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb operates Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb operates Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb operates across the Sahara Desert, taking across the Sahara Desert, taking across the Sahara Desert, taking foreigners hostage and attacking hotels foreigners hostage and attacking hotels foreigners hostage and attacking hotels used by Westerners. used by Westerners. used by Westerners. These regional groups are known as These regional groups are known as These regional groups are known as affiliates with local leaders who have affiliates with local leaders who have affiliates with local leaders who have publicly sworn allegiance to al-Qaeda's publicly sworn allegiance to al-Qaeda's publicly sworn allegiance to al-Qaeda's central command. central command. central command. >> Al-Qaeda is stronger than ever. >> Al-Qaeda is stronger than ever. >> Al-Qaeda is stronger than ever. I don't believe even Bin Laden in his I don't believe even Bin Laden in his I don't believe even Bin Laden in his wildest dreams thought that he will have wildest dreams thought that he will have wildest dreams thought that he will have followers who command armies, troops, followers who command armies, troops, followers who command armies, troops, control lands, are extremely powerful control lands, are extremely powerful control lands, are extremely powerful geopolitical players as al-Qaeda today.

geopolitical players as al-Qaeda today. geopolitical players as al-Qaeda today. Al-Qaeda owes much of its growth to the Al-Qaeda owes much of its growth to the Al-Qaeda owes much of its growth to the Arab Spring, a series of uprisings Arab Spring, a series of uprisings Arab Spring, a series of uprisings starting in 2010 that toppled dictators starting in 2010 that toppled dictators starting in 2010 that toppled dictators and sparked civil wars. From his hideout and sparked civil wars. From his hideout and sparked civil wars. From his hideout in Pakistan, Osama bin Laden anticipated in Pakistan, Osama bin Laden anticipated in Pakistan, Osama bin Laden anticipated the power vacuum that would result and the power vacuum that would result and the power vacuum that would result and the opportunity to expand al-Qaeda's the opportunity to expand al-Qaeda's the opportunity to expand al-Qaeda's reach. This order to his commanders reach. This order to his commanders reach. This order to his commanders tells them to support the people and tells them to support the people and tells them to support the people and encourage their rebellion. encourage their rebellion. encourage their rebellion. The strategy has paid off in the chaos The strategy has paid off in the chaos The strategy has paid off in the chaos of Syria's civil war where al-Qaeda's of Syria's civil war where al-Qaeda's of Syria's civil war where al-Qaeda's affiliate has seized control of entire affiliate has seized control of entire affiliate has seized control of entire towns and villages. Though it now calls towns and villages. Though it now calls towns and villages. Though it now calls itself Haya Taria al-Sham. itself Haya Taria al-Sham. itself Haya Taria al-Sham. >> As Osama bin Laden from his hideout was >> As Osama bin Laden from his hideout was >> As Osama bin Laden from his hideout was telling all of these local affiliates, telling all of these local affiliates, telling all of these local affiliates, don't call yourselves al-Qaeda. don't call yourselves al-Qaeda. don't call yourselves al-Qaeda. >> Why not? because he believed that the >> Why not? because he believed that the >> Why not? because he believed that the moment that they say the name al-Qaeda, moment that they say the name al-Qaeda, moment that they say the name al-Qaeda, the United States, the West, the local the United States, the West, the local the United States, the West, the local regimes will use it against them and regimes will use it against them and regimes will use it against them and people won't listen to the message. They people won't listen to the message. They people won't listen to the message. They just listen to the fact that they are just listen to the fact that they are just listen to the fact that they are al-Qaeda. So each one of the affiliates al-Qaeda. So each one of the affiliates al-Qaeda. So each one of the affiliates we start seeing calling themselves a we start seeing calling themselves a we start seeing calling themselves a totally different name that al-Qaeda is totally different name that al-Qaeda is totally different name that al-Qaeda is not even part of the sentence.

not even part of the sentence. not even part of the sentence. >> So they were rebranding themselves. >> So they were rebranding themselves. >> So they were rebranding themselves. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Al-Qaeda is a strategic and innovative >> Al-Qaeda is a strategic and innovative >> Al-Qaeda is a strategic and innovative enemy. the most dangerous kind. enemy. the most dangerous kind. enemy. the most dangerous kind. According to John Miller, head of According to John Miller, head of According to John Miller, head of counterterrorism and intelligence for counterterrorism and intelligence for counterterrorism and intelligence for the New York City Police Department. He the New York City Police Department. He the New York City Police Department. He and Ali Sufan have known each other for and Ali Sufan have known each other for and Ali Sufan have known each other for 15 years. Miller says Sufan helps him 15 years. Miller says Sufan helps him 15 years. Miller says Sufan helps him get inside the mind of al-Qaeda. get inside the mind of al-Qaeda. get inside the mind of al-Qaeda. >> Are we safer now than we were at the >> Are we safer now than we were at the >> Are we safer now than we were at the time of 9/11? Do you think? time of 9/11? Do you think? time of 9/11? Do you think? >> Yes. Uh, exponentially so, because we >> Yes. Uh, exponentially so, because we >> Yes. Uh, exponentially so, because we have improved intelligence and improved have improved intelligence and improved have improved intelligence and improved collection. But remember, as we grow and collection. But remember, as we grow and collection. But remember, as we grow and we learn, the adversary grows and we learn, the adversary grows and we learn, the adversary grows and learns, too. learns, too. learns, too. >> John Miller is also a former journalist >> John Miller is also a former journalist >> John Miller is also a former journalist and CBS News correspondent, one of the and CBS News correspondent, one of the and CBS News correspondent, one of the few Westerners to have interviewed few Westerners to have interviewed few Westerners to have interviewed Assama Bin Laden. Assama Bin Laden. Assama Bin Laden. >> The mistake that we risk making is to >> The mistake that we risk making is to >> The mistake that we risk making is to look back on 9/11 as a singular event look back on 9/11 as a singular event look back on 9/11 as a singular event and say, "Well, al-Qaeda was a one and say, "Well, al-Qaeda was a one and say, "Well, al-Qaeda was a one attack wonder." Um, and since then, attack wonder." Um, and since then, attack wonder." Um, and since then, they've been falling apart. Al-Qaeda has they've been falling apart. Al-Qaeda has they've been falling apart. Al-Qaeda has sustained itself in the shadows and sustained itself in the shadows and sustained itself in the shadows and while other groups are getting more while other groups are getting more while other groups are getting more attention, they're getting bigger and attention, they're getting bigger and attention, they're getting bigger and they're patient.

they're patient. they're patient. >> What is the fear when it comes to Hamza? >> What is the fear when it comes to Hamza? >> What is the fear when it comes to Hamza? Is it that he helps recruit and Is it that he helps recruit and Is it that he helps recruit and radicalize young men? The base fear is a radicalize young men? The base fear is a radicalize young men? The base fear is a that as he does more recordings and more that as he does more recordings and more that as he does more recordings and more messages that he gets better at it and b messages that he gets better at it and b messages that he gets better at it and b um that he is um that he is um that he is he is targeting a younger audience. And he is targeting a younger audience. And he is targeting a younger audience. And if you have a young figure with bin if you have a young figure with bin if you have a young figure with bin Laden as that brand name who becomes an Laden as that brand name who becomes an Laden as that brand name who becomes an effective communicator, that's a bad effective communicator, that's a bad effective communicator, that's a bad thing. thing. thing. >> Well, we killed Osama bin Laden, but his >> Well, we killed Osama bin Laden, but his >> Well, we killed Osama bin Laden, but his message lives. message lives. message lives. >> His message lives. And now there's a new >> His message lives. And now there's a new >> His message lives. And now there's a new messenger. his young, charismatic son. messenger. his young, charismatic son. messenger. his young, charismatic son. >> Yeah. I think we're not done with the >> Yeah. I think we're not done with the >> Yeah. I think we're not done with the bin Ladens yet.