Coach Unfiltered E10

Welcome back everybody, Coach Welcome back everybody, Coach Unfiltered. I am Coach Art once again, Unfiltered. I am Coach Art once again, Unfiltered. I am Coach Art once again, episode 10. Thank you for joining us episode 10. Thank you for joining us episode 10. Thank you for joining us today. If it's not obvious, I'm joined today. If it's not obvious, I'm joined today. If it's not obvious, I'm joined by some very special guests. I've got by some very special guests. I've got by some very special guests. I've got Mr. Coach, Mr. Coach Brian Hurley and Mr. Coach, Mr. Coach Brian Hurley and Mr. Coach, Mr. Coach Brian Hurley and Coach Tiffany Canablo with me today. Coach Tiffany Canablo with me today. Coach Tiffany Canablo with me today. Welcome to the show, guys. Thank you for Welcome to the show, guys. Thank you for Welcome to the show, guys. Thank you for being here. Tiffany, tell us a little being here. Tiffany, tell us a little being here. Tiffany, tell us a little bit about yourself. bit about yourself. bit about yourself. >> Hi, I'm Tiffany. Uh, first of all, I'd >> Hi, I'm Tiffany. Uh, first of all, I'd >> Hi, I'm Tiffany. Uh, first of all, I'd like to give a shout out to where I like to give a shout out to where I like to give a shout out to where I work. I have F45 Summerwood here. I am a work. I have F45 Summerwood here. I am a work. I have F45 Summerwood here. I am a personal trainer coach there. I also do personal trainer coach there. I also do personal trainer coach there. I also do admin as well. I played soccer for 21 admin as well. I played soccer for 21 admin as well. I played soccer for 21 years. I've refer years. I've refer years. I've refer consisted of four years of high school consisted of four years of high school consisted of four years of high school club throughout division one soccer. Uh, club throughout division one soccer. Uh, club throughout division one soccer. Uh, I played D3 college soccer and five I played D3 college soccer and five I played D3 college soccer and five years of semi-pro soccer. And currently years of semi-pro soccer. And currently years of semi-pro soccer. And currently my main job besides working at the gym my main job besides working at the gym my main job besides working at the gym would be refing soccer and making sure would be refing soccer and making sure would be refing soccer and making sure that the kids have a great time while that the kids have a great time while that the kids have a great time while they're out there. they're out there. they're out there. >> Man, that's a resume. Uh I'm I'm just a >> Man, that's a resume. Uh I'm I'm just a >> Man, that's a resume. Uh I'm I'm just a coach. But Coach B, tell us a little bit coach. But Coach B, tell us a little bit coach. But Coach B, tell us a little bit about you. Can you match that?

about you. Can you match that? about you. Can you match that? >> I'll try. >> I'll try. >> I'll try. >> All right, man. That's >> All right, man. That's >> All right, man. That's >> So I've uh been a club coach for 18 >> So I've uh been a club coach for 18 >> So I've uh been a club coach for 18 years. Um coached at various clubs years. Um coached at various clubs years. Um coached at various clubs throughout the Houston area. Um I'm throughout the Houston area. Um I'm throughout the Houston area. Um I'm currently a high school coach at currently a high school coach at currently a high school coach at Needville High School. I coach girls Needville High School. I coach girls Needville High School. I coach girls varsity. Um I'm going into my third year varsity. Um I'm going into my third year varsity. Um I'm going into my third year as the head coach there. Um I also uh as the head coach there. Um I also uh as the head coach there. Um I also uh have my own private training business have my own private training business have my own private training business called Greater Soccer where I um train called Greater Soccer where I um train called Greater Soccer where I um train individuals or groups um on a weekly individuals or groups um on a weekly individuals or groups um on a weekly basis and you know that's going great. basis and you know that's going great. basis and you know that's going great. That's something I just started. Plus in That's something I just started. Plus in That's something I just started. Plus in addition to that all I also referee um addition to that all I also referee um addition to that all I also referee um when I'm not coaching. when I'm not coaching. when I'm not coaching. >> Nice. All right. Not all trades. That's >> Nice. All right. Not all trades. That's >> Nice. All right. Not all trades. That's good. All right. So welcome to the show. good. All right. So welcome to the show. good. All right. So welcome to the show. Um, let's see what kind of input they Um, let's see what kind of input they Um, let's see what kind of input they can give us. Right. So, brought them in can give us. Right. So, brought them in can give us. Right. So, brought them in here to really, really, really get a lot here to really, really, really get a lot here to really, really, really get a lot more input on some of the stuff we've more input on some of the stuff we've more input on some of the stuff we've been seeing. Let's kick it off. One, been seeing. Let's kick it off. One, been seeing. Let's kick it off. One, first off, I'm really digging the multi- first off, I'm really digging the multi- first off, I'm really digging the multi- vision part of the Peacock app. Am I vision part of the Peacock app. Am I vision part of the Peacock app. Am I supposed to say Peacock? They don't supposed to say Peacock? They don't supposed to say Peacock? They don't sponsor us, but the Peacock app has the sponsor us, but the Peacock app has the sponsor us, but the Peacock app has the greatest split screen thing ever because greatest split screen thing ever because greatest split screen thing ever because like even they say it, right? More like even they say it, right? More like even they say it, right? More soccer is better with more Spanish or soccer is better with more Spanish or soccer is better with more Spanish or soccer looks better in Spanish. Yeah, soccer looks better in Spanish. Yeah, soccer looks better in Spanish. Yeah, that's it. That's the one. And I've been that's it. That's the one. And I've been that's it. That's the one. And I've been really watching a lot of matches. You really watching a lot of matches. You really watching a lot of matches. You guys have been catching them, most of guys have been catching them, most of guys have been catching them, most of them, right? Yep.

them, right? Yep. them, right? Yep. >> So, >> So, >> So, one match right off the bat. Portugal one match right off the bat. Portugal one match right off the bat. Portugal was was was >> 5-nil Portugal. Ronaldo finally shows >> 5-nil Portugal. Ronaldo finally shows >> 5-nil Portugal. Ronaldo finally shows up. Now, I know the the stress was big. up. Now, I know the the stress was big. up. Now, I know the the stress was big. U all the stars had already shown up U all the stars had already shown up U all the stars had already shown up last week. Everyone's already five, four last week. Everyone's already five, four last week. Everyone's already five, four goals in. He was feeling the pressure. goals in. He was feeling the pressure. goals in. He was feeling the pressure. Um, you know, we had Lo Messi, Erlene Um, you know, we had Lo Messi, Erlene Um, you know, we had Lo Messi, Erlene Holland, Harry King, Kian Mbappe, even Holland, Harry King, Kian Mbappe, even Holland, Harry King, Kian Mbappe, even Muhammad Salah, all these guys that Muhammad Salah, all these guys that Muhammad Salah, all these guys that already produced and he had had quite a already produced and he had had quite a already produced and he had had quite a bit of trouble on that first game. Um, bit of trouble on that first game. Um, bit of trouble on that first game. Um, it's great to see that he's joined his it's great to see that he's joined his it's great to see that he's joined his rivals. They've qualified. They They're rivals. They've qualified. They They're rivals. They've qualified. They They're moving on to the round of 32, right? moving on to the round of 32, right? moving on to the round of 32, right? >> Correct. They just don't know where yet. >> Correct. They just don't know where yet. >> Correct. They just don't know where yet. >> They don't know where yet. >> They don't know where yet. >> They don't know where yet. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Where could they possibly end up? >> Where could they possibly end up? >> Where could they possibly end up? >> Uh, well, if they win, they'll be in >> Uh, well, if they win, they'll be in >> Uh, well, if they win, they'll be in first place. If they tie, they will be first place. If they tie, they will be first place. If they tie, they will be in second unless uh Dr. Congo comes out in second unless uh Dr. Congo comes out in second unless uh Dr. Congo comes out and scores 10 goals against Yuzbekistan. and scores 10 goals against Yuzbekistan. and scores 10 goals against Yuzbekistan. It's very uh very rare that they'll be It's very uh very rare that they'll be It's very uh very rare that they'll be in third place. So, they'll at least be in third place. So, they'll at least be in third place. So, they'll at least be in second or first. in second or first. in second or first. >> Cool. Who do they advance to if they if >> Cool. Who do they advance to if they if >> Cool. Who do they advance to if they if they go in second place?

they go in second place? they go in second place? >> Um that has not been decided quite yet. >> Um that has not been decided quite yet. >> Um that has not been decided quite yet. So, today the last day of a group play, So, today the last day of a group play, So, today the last day of a group play, there's a lot of interesting things that there's a lot of interesting things that there's a lot of interesting things that can happen. So, who knows? They might can happen. So, who knows? They might can happen. So, who knows? They might they might be meeting Argentina in the they might be meeting Argentina in the they might be meeting Argentina in the second second uh round of 16. So, second second uh round of 16. So, second second uh round of 16. So, >> very cool. >> very cool. >> very cool. >> All right. So, with all these superstars >> All right. So, with all these superstars >> All right. So, with all these superstars out there, you got a favorite one? out there, you got a favorite one? out there, you got a favorite one? >> I do. Um I'm a big Premier League fan. >> I do. Um I'm a big Premier League fan. >> I do. Um I'm a big Premier League fan. When uh when Harry Kane was playing, I When uh when Harry Kane was playing, I When uh when Harry Kane was playing, I was a big Tottenham fan when when he was was a big Tottenham fan when when he was was a big Tottenham fan when when he was there. Um and now obviously I follow there. Um and now obviously I follow there. Um and now obviously I follow Byron, so Harry Kane's my man. Byron, so Harry Kane's my man. Byron, so Harry Kane's my man. >> Harry Kane's your man? >> Harry Kane's your man? >> Harry Kane's your man? >> Should we even ask? >> Should we even ask? >> Should we even ask? >> Oh man. for the current players right >> Oh man. for the current players right >> Oh man. for the current players right now. Ronaldo, man, he is he is a goat, now. Ronaldo, man, he is he is a goat, now. Ronaldo, man, he is he is a goat, but we all know who the real goat is. but we all know who the real goat is. but we all know who the real goat is. >> Oh, the pleg. >> Oh, the pleg. >> Oh, the pleg. >> I don't know why he's not in the >> I don't know why he's not in the >> I don't know why he's not in the discussion most of the time, but discussion most of the time, but discussion most of the time, but >> All right. All right. I don't really >> All right. All right. I don't really >> All right. All right. I don't really have any favorites. I I just, you know, have any favorites. I I just, you know, have any favorites. I I just, you know, not at all. I I just like players in not at all. I I just like players in not at all. I I just like players in general, especially, you know, with the general, especially, you know, with the general, especially, you know, with the Argentina blue. But anyway, Argentina blue. But anyway, Argentina blue. But anyway, yes, everyone knows I'm a big Leon Messi yes, everyone knows I'm a big Leon Messi yes, everyone knows I'm a big Leon Messi fan and always have been. Um, so fan and always have been. Um, so fan and always have been. Um, so everyone's got their favorite stars.

everyone's got their favorite stars. everyone's got their favorite stars. Going a little bit into the coaching Going a little bit into the coaching Going a little bit into the coaching part of this. Um, you watch Harry Kane part of this. Um, you watch Harry Kane part of this. Um, you watch Harry Kane play. What are your thoughts on play. What are your thoughts on play. What are your thoughts on England's inability to score? Is it England's inability to score? Is it England's inability to score? Is it because they're shutting Harry Kay down? because they're shutting Harry Kay down? because they're shutting Harry Kay down? Do you think they've got the right Do you think they've got the right Do you think they've got the right strategy there? Thoughts? strategy there? Thoughts? strategy there? Thoughts? >> Um, I think they are shutting them down >> Um, I think they are shutting them down >> Um, I think they are shutting them down more. um they know their opponents know more. um they know their opponents know more. um they know their opponents know that he's the target player. So if they that he's the target player. So if they that he's the target player. So if they can shut him down um they're going to can shut him down um they're going to can shut him down um they're going to lessen their their goal scoring lessen their their goal scoring lessen their their goal scoring capabilities. However, England has some capabilities. However, England has some capabilities. However, England has some powerful weapons and other players that powerful weapons and other players that powerful weapons and other players that should be able to step up and put the should be able to step up and put the should be able to step up and put the ball in the back of the net. ball in the back of the net. ball in the back of the net. >> Big shiny guns. I mean lots of teams >> Big shiny guns. I mean lots of teams >> Big shiny guns. I mean lots of teams have come here with big shiny guns, have come here with big shiny guns, have come here with big shiny guns, right? right? right? >> Um what did you think about say >> Um what did you think about say >> Um what did you think about say Ronaldo's performance with Portugal so Ronaldo's performance with Portugal so Ronaldo's performance with Portugal so far? far? far? >> He played much better in that second >> He played much better in that second >> He played much better in that second game. I mean, I actually had uh I was at game. I mean, I actually had uh I was at game. I mean, I actually had uh I was at that game, so being able to see it, it that game, so being able to see it, it that game, so being able to see it, it was all Portugal fans. There was a few was all Portugal fans. There was a few was all Portugal fans. There was a few Yuzbekistsan fans there, but it was Yuzbekistsan fans there, but it was Yuzbekistsan fans there, but it was probably about 99% Portugal fans.

probably about 99% Portugal fans. probably about 99% Portugal fans. >> That's a long way to come if you're >> That's a long way to come if you're >> That's a long way to come if you're coming from Usbekistan down here. coming from Usbekistan down here. coming from Usbekistan down here. >> Seeing Ronaldo up close, man, he really >> Seeing Ronaldo up close, man, he really >> Seeing Ronaldo up close, man, he really wanted that third goal at the end. He wanted that third goal at the end. He wanted that third goal at the end. He was smiling about it, but he didn't get was smiling about it, but he didn't get was smiling about it, but he didn't get it. He'll get this next one against it. He'll get this next one against it. He'll get this next one against Columbia. He's got to show up big for Columbia. He's got to show up big for Columbia. He's got to show up big for them to have a chance to win. them to have a chance to win. them to have a chance to win. >> Not bad. Um, and do you think I think >> Not bad. Um, and do you think I think >> Not bad. Um, and do you think I think we've we've talked about this before, if we've we've talked about this before, if we've we've talked about this before, if they have their target men and who can they have their target men and who can they have their target men and who can put the goals in, the teams are going to put the goals in, the teams are going to put the goals in, the teams are going to try to get the ball to them mostly. Um, try to get the ball to them mostly. Um, try to get the ball to them mostly. Um, do you think sometimes they're trying do you think sometimes they're trying do you think sometimes they're trying way too much with that same tactic and way too much with that same tactic and way too much with that same tactic and not adapting and say missing other shots not adapting and say missing other shots not adapting and say missing other shots as a coach? What would you think about as a coach? What would you think about as a coach? What would you think about that? that? that? >> Um, yeah, they they need to be able to >> Um, yeah, they they need to be able to >> Um, yeah, they they need to be able to create scoring opportunities. Now, how create scoring opportunities. Now, how create scoring opportunities. Now, how much time these national teams have had much time these national teams have had much time these national teams have had to create some kind of chemistry and and to create some kind of chemistry and and to create some kind of chemistry and and and set up some game plans um in certain and set up some game plans um in certain and set up some game plans um in certain situations, I don't know. Um but those situations, I don't know. Um but those situations, I don't know. Um but those are going to be the focus areas that are going to be the focus areas that are going to be the focus areas that that they need to use going forward. that they need to use going forward. that they need to use going forward. >> Very cool. Agreed on that. >> Very cool. Agreed on that. >> Very cool. Agreed on that. >> Yeah, I mean I agree. If you look at a >> Yeah, I mean I agree. If you look at a >> Yeah, I mean I agree. If you look at a couple of these teams, they want to play couple of these teams, they want to play couple of these teams, they want to play through Ronaldo. They want to play through Ronaldo. They want to play through Ronaldo. They want to play through Messi. He's the only one that's through Messi. He's the only one that's through Messi. He's the only one that's scored so far for Argentina. I mean, the scored so far for Argentina. I mean, the scored so far for Argentina. I mean, the team that I think is to beat right now team that I think is to beat right now team that I think is to beat right now would be France. They have so many would be France. They have so many would be France. They have so many weapons that who do you stop? You have weapons that who do you stop? You have weapons that who do you stop? You have Mbappe, but then you have um freaking Mbappe, but then you have um freaking Mbappe, but then you have um freaking >> Dembele Dembele and Dway and all of >> Dembele Dembele and Dway and all of >> Dembele Dembele and Dway and all of them. It's like who do you stop at that them. It's like who do you stop at that them. It's like who do you stop at that moment? Their defense might be their moment? Their defense might be their moment? Their defense might be their Achilles Hill though, unfortunately.

Achilles Hill though, unfortunately. Achilles Hill though, unfortunately. >> Yeah, as long as they don't let you get >> Yeah, as long as they don't let you get >> Yeah, as long as they don't let you get the ball back there. the ball back there. the ball back there. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> they're pretty solid. >> they're pretty solid. >> they're pretty solid. >> They're going to score goals. >> They're going to score goals. >> They're going to score goals. >> I know. So, they've been working really >> I know. So, they've been working really >> I know. So, they've been working really well with that. Um and to your point, uh well with that. Um and to your point, uh well with that. Um and to your point, uh we were just discussing this last night. we were just discussing this last night. we were just discussing this last night. One of my favorite teams going into One of my favorite teams going into One of my favorite teams going into this, a powerhouse team that I thought this, a powerhouse team that I thought this, a powerhouse team that I thought for sure was in the running right off for sure was in the running right off for sure was in the running right off the bat was Spain. Um, another team that the bat was Spain. Um, another team that the bat was Spain. Um, another team that I had in my mind, Turkey, Morocco for I had in my mind, Turkey, Morocco for I had in my mind, Turkey, Morocco for sure. And some of these teams are just sure. And some of these teams are just sure. And some of these teams are just not showing up. Last night alone, not showing up. Last night alone, not showing up. Last night alone, watching the Spain game, I can tell you watching the Spain game, I can tell you watching the Spain game, I can tell you that my mind doubts that this team could that my mind doubts that this team could that my mind doubts that this team could stand up to France. That's my take from stand up to France. That's my take from stand up to France. That's my take from what I've seen. what I've seen. what I've seen. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> they have a lot of talent. They do have >> they have a lot of talent. They do have >> they have a lot of talent. They do have a lot of talent. The Spanish team has a a lot of talent. The Spanish team has a a lot of talent. The Spanish team has a lot of talent, but they're just not lot of talent, but they're just not lot of talent, but they're just not there. Um, it's a young team. It's a there. Um, it's a young team. It's a there. Um, it's a young team. It's a fast team. They're very creative. fast team. They're very creative. fast team. They're very creative. They're very good, but they just don't They're very good, but they just don't They're very good, but they just don't have that extra that France seems to have that extra that France seems to have that extra that France seems to bring. Now, I don't know if that's cuz bring. Now, I don't know if that's cuz bring. Now, I don't know if that's cuz they're veterans already. They've been they're veterans already. They've been they're veterans already. They've been at the World Cup, which is the third at the World Cup, which is the third at the World Cup, which is the third time, and they want it again.

time, and they want it again. time, and they want it again. >> Yeah. I mean, I think the the thing that >> Yeah. I mean, I think the the thing that >> Yeah. I mean, I think the the thing that Spain's going to have to do is slow the Spain's going to have to do is slow the Spain's going to have to do is slow the game down. That's what they do best is game down. That's what they do best is game down. That's what they do best is control the possession. It's the only control the possession. It's the only control the possession. It's the only way they're going to beat France is keep way they're going to beat France is keep way they're going to beat France is keep keep the ball away from them. keep the ball away from them. keep the ball away from them. >> Yeah. And France has these veteran >> Yeah. And France has these veteran >> Yeah. And France has these veteran players. They know how to play well with players. They know how to play well with players. They know how to play well with each other. They can complement each each other. They can complement each each other. They can complement each other. They have that chemistry um that other. They have that chemistry um that other. They have that chemistry um that some of the younger teams like you said, some of the younger teams like you said, some of the younger teams like you said, Spain might not have. And you can put Spain might not have. And you can put Spain might not have. And you can put some of the best players together on a some of the best players together on a some of the best players together on a team, but that doesn't mean they're team, but that doesn't mean they're team, but that doesn't mean they're going to be able to play correctly. Um going to be able to play correctly. Um going to be able to play correctly. Um >> so it's it's just about that experience >> so it's it's just about that experience >> so it's it's just about that experience and chemistry. That's one of the the and chemistry. That's one of the the and chemistry. That's one of the the most fun aspects about being a coach, most fun aspects about being a coach, most fun aspects about being a coach, especially even in the youth levels, is especially even in the youth levels, is especially even in the youth levels, is if you end up with a good team one year if you end up with a good team one year if you end up with a good team one year and they happen to go, "Hey, these six and they happen to go, "Hey, these six and they happen to go, "Hey, these six players should go to the higher team. players should go to the higher team. players should go to the higher team. Here's all new players." They don't Here's all new players." They don't Here's all new players." They don't click. You're tasked with the job now of click. You're tasked with the job now of click. You're tasked with the job now of trying to put this team together to trying to put this team together to trying to put this team together to work. work. work. >> So, I can only imagine at that level >> So, I can only imagine at that level >> So, I can only imagine at that level >> with the egos and the money going, >> with the egos and the money going, >> with the egos and the money going, "Okay, Ronaldo, so I need you to take a "Okay, Ronaldo, so I need you to take a "Okay, Ronaldo, so I need you to take a step back and feed the ball to Brian."

step back and feed the ball to Brian." step back and feed the ball to Brian." And he's well, I don't do that. I stand And he's well, I don't do that. I stand And he's well, I don't do that. I stand here and you feed me and this is how it here and you feed me and this is how it here and you feed me and this is how it works. works. works. >> So you got to be able to manage these >> So you got to be able to manage these >> So you got to be able to manage these guys right at some point, right? So guys right at some point, right? So guys right at some point, right? So that's something big. All right, England that's something big. All right, England that's something big. All right, England versus Ghana. Now here, England got to a versus Ghana. Now here, England got to a versus Ghana. Now here, England got to a scoreless draw against a very defensive scoreless draw against a very defensive scoreless draw against a very defensive Ghana team. Harry Kane was not able to Ghana team. Harry Kane was not able to Ghana team. Harry Kane was not able to convert here. He even Harry Kaneed a convert here. He even Harry Kaneed a convert here. He even Harry Kaneed a ball completely. And if you don't know ball completely. And if you don't know ball completely. And if you don't know why, uh, what was it a couple of World why, uh, what was it a couple of World why, uh, what was it a couple of World Cups ago, he had a PK and he sked it. Cups ago, he had a PK and he sked it. Cups ago, he had a PK and he sked it. And I was coaching a team at that time And I was coaching a team at that time And I was coaching a team at that time of kids. One of our players had a PK of kids. One of our players had a PK of kids. One of our players had a PK opportunity. He missed it and they said, opportunity. He missed it and they said, opportunity. He missed it and they said, "Oh no, you Harry Kaneed it." So that "Oh no, you Harry Kaneed it." So that "Oh no, you Harry Kaneed it." So that term forever stuck in my brain. I saw term forever stuck in my brain. I saw term forever stuck in my brain. I saw him do it the other day. He sked it and him do it the other day. He sked it and him do it the other day. He sked it and I went, "He Harry Kane that ball." I went, "He Harry Kane that ball." I went, "He Harry Kane that ball." That's just what it is. Sorry, Harry. That's just what it is. Sorry, Harry. That's just what it is. Sorry, Harry. >> I like to use the Roberto Bagio. Uh, he >> I like to use the Roberto Bagio. Uh, he >> I like to use the Roberto Bagio. Uh, he bought it all together. Don't don't you bought it all together. Don't don't you bought it all together. Don't don't you know take Harry Kane out of it. know take Harry Kane out of it. know take Harry Kane out of it. >> Wow. Wow. Okay. So, controversy right >> Wow. Wow. Okay. So, controversy right >> Wow. Wow. Okay. So, controversy right there. And check out this slide here.

there. And check out this slide here. there. And check out this slide here. Um, we're going to be looking at one of Um, we're going to be looking at one of Um, we're going to be looking at one of the penalty kicks that came up. the penalty kicks that came up. the penalty kicks that came up. And next one, please. And right there. And next one, please. And right there. And next one, please. And right there. All right. So, as you can see here, All right. So, as you can see here, All right. So, as you can see here, possible penalty kick not awarded to possible penalty kick not awarded to possible penalty kick not awarded to Ghana. You can see the player stepping Ghana. You can see the player stepping Ghana. You can see the player stepping into the box, right? uh center referee into the box, right? uh center referee into the box, right? uh center referee let it go as he was on the ground. As let it go as he was on the ground. As let it go as he was on the ground. As the Ghana player made it to the ground, the Ghana player made it to the ground, the Ghana player made it to the ground, he managed to get his foot over to the he managed to get his foot over to the he managed to get his foot over to the ball, kick it towards the goal, one of ball, kick it towards the goal, one of ball, kick it towards the goal, one of his players was already in front of him, his players was already in front of him, his players was already in front of him, so he was offside. That play was dead. so he was offside. That play was dead. so he was offside. That play was dead. Okay. As a referee, I was looking at Okay. As a referee, I was looking at Okay. As a referee, I was looking at this and thinking to myself, okay, the this and thinking to myself, okay, the this and thinking to myself, okay, the only time I recognized that as a PK was only time I recognized that as a PK was only time I recognized that as a PK was from this angle. I see the play. I see from this angle. I see the play. I see from this angle. I see the play. I see the way they're playing that they're the way they're playing that they're the way they're playing that they're building up. It's rough good stuff. building up. It's rough good stuff. building up. It's rough good stuff. I wouldn't have called this. I don't I wouldn't have called this. I don't I wouldn't have called this. I don't think I would have seen this enough to think I would have seen this enough to think I would have seen this enough to call it. Just said, "No, no, no. Play call it. Just said, "No, no, no. Play call it. Just said, "No, no, no. Play on." Good contact. Nothing. From the on." Good contact. Nothing. From the on." Good contact. Nothing. From the angle that the referee generally takes, angle that the referee generally takes, angle that the referee generally takes, I would have taken off to the left. So, I would have taken off to the left. So, I would have taken off to the left. So, I would have been over on this I would have been over on this I would have been over on this gentleman's left hand.

gentleman's left hand. gentleman's left hand. >> Looking in, I don't think I would have >> Looking in, I don't think I would have >> Looking in, I don't think I would have seen that contact. At that point, I seen that contact. At that point, I seen that contact. At that point, I think I would have leaned on my AR, think I would have leaned on my AR, think I would have leaned on my AR, assistant referee. assistant referee. assistant referee. >> Um, what are your thoughts on this? >> Um, what are your thoughts on this? >> Um, what are your thoughts on this? >> Um, yes, you would want to rely on your >> Um, yes, you would want to rely on your >> Um, yes, you would want to rely on your AR. he or she should be in a good um AR. he or she should be in a good um AR. he or she should be in a good um position to see that um probably better position to see that um probably better position to see that um probably better than the center. But at the same time, than the center. But at the same time, than the center. But at the same time, even if both of them don't see it, even if both of them don't see it, even if both of them don't see it, that's why we have V. And that's why we that's why we have V. And that's why we that's why we have V. And that's why we have this type of angle to to go back have this type of angle to to go back have this type of angle to to go back and to reference it and and to reference it and and to reference it and make it right if you got it wrong. make it right if you got it wrong. make it right if you got it wrong. >> Isn't that crazy though what you can see >> Isn't that crazy though what you can see >> Isn't that crazy though what you can see now? What are your thoughts on that? I now? What are your thoughts on that? I now? What are your thoughts on that? I mean, I've I've looked at this play mean, I've I've looked at this play mean, I've I've looked at this play multiple times trying to see where the multiple times trying to see where the multiple times trying to see where the ref was. He was a little bit too ref was. He was a little bit too ref was. He was a little bit too straight on, so he did not take that straight on, so he did not take that straight on, so he did not take that angle that we were taught to do. Um, angle that we were taught to do. Um, angle that we were taught to do. Um, whether it's to the right or the left, whether it's to the right or the left, whether it's to the right or the left, the right angle would closest to his AR the right angle would closest to his AR the right angle would closest to his AR probably would have been the best there. probably would have been the best there. probably would have been the best there. But usually, you're trying to take that But usually, you're trying to take that But usually, you're trying to take that left so you keep the ball between you left so you keep the ball between you left so you keep the ball between you and your AR. So, he may not see that. and your AR. So, he may not see that. and your AR. So, he may not see that. But the minute you see the defender But the minute you see the defender But the minute you see the defender leave his feet, you should know leave his feet, you should know leave his feet, you should know something's up. Whether he gets the ball something's up. Whether he gets the ball something's up. Whether he gets the ball or not, that's going to be a dangerous or not, that's going to be a dangerous or not, that's going to be a dangerous tackle as it is. So, you need some tackle as it is. So, you need some tackle as it is. So, you need some confirmation from your AR or from VR or confirmation from your AR or from VR or confirmation from your AR or from VR or somebody that something is something is somebody that something is something is somebody that something is something is a missed. Okay. Like what's going on a missed. Okay. Like what's going on a missed. Okay. Like what's going on here? That doesn't look right.

here? That doesn't look right. here? That doesn't look right. >> Okay. All right. So, on the field >> Okay. All right. So, on the field >> Okay. All right. So, on the field running after this call, you're running running after this call, you're running running after this call, you're running here. here. here. >> What do you think you would have called? >> What do you think you would have called? >> What do you think you would have called? Having seen the play build up to this Having seen the play build up to this Having seen the play build up to this based on your center referee based on your center referee based on your center referee perspective, no V. What would you have perspective, no V. What would you have perspective, no V. What would you have done? done? done? >> If I was center, I am I'm calling a PK >> If I was center, I am I'm calling a PK >> If I was center, I am I'm calling a PK just because like Tiffany mentioned, he just because like Tiffany mentioned, he just because like Tiffany mentioned, he left his feet. It's coming from behind. left his feet. It's coming from behind. left his feet. It's coming from behind. He had to reach and grab with his legs. He had to reach and grab with his legs. He had to reach and grab with his legs. So, um, just off of those that criteria So, um, just off of those that criteria So, um, just off of those that criteria alone, I'm calling a PK. alone, I'm calling a PK. alone, I'm calling a PK. >> Okay. All right. >> Okay. All right. >> Okay. All right. >> You're call >> You're call >> You're call >> the infamous, but I got the ball. That >> the infamous, but I got the ball. That >> the infamous, but I got the ball. That doesn't matter. We can't go through the doesn't matter. We can't go through the doesn't matter. We can't go through the player to get the ball. Even though he player to get the ball. Even though he player to get the ball. Even though he got a little touch, and that would be got a little touch, and that would be got a little touch, and that would be the only reason I can see that V did not the only reason I can see that V did not the only reason I can see that V did not intervene here is he scissor kicked him intervene here is he scissor kicked him intervene here is he scissor kicked him to get the ball and a little touch to get the ball and a little touch to get the ball and a little touch forward. And maybe that's why the ref forward. And maybe that's why the ref forward. And maybe that's why the ref didn't call it, but I have a PK all day. didn't call it, but I have a PK all day. didn't call it, but I have a PK all day. We missed that one as Russ. We missed that one as Russ. We missed that one as Russ. >> Okay. Okay. All right. All right. And as >> Okay. Okay. All right. All right. And as >> Okay. Okay. All right. All right. And as a referee myself, if I'd gone on the a referee myself, if I'd gone on the a referee myself, if I'd gone on the left side, I wouldn't have seen it. I am left side, I wouldn't have seen it. I am left side, I wouldn't have seen it. I am a little more apt to play that a little more apt to play that a little more apt to play that u dangerous call. So, I would have let u dangerous call. So, I would have let u dangerous call. So, I would have let it go. I would have let it play on to it go. I would have let it play on to it go. I would have let it play on to see and if he had made that ball from see and if he had made that ball from see and if he had made that ball from the ground into the goal, fantastic. But the ground into the goal, fantastic. But the ground into the goal, fantastic. But but letting it go at that point doesn't but letting it go at that point doesn't but letting it go at that point doesn't mean I wouldn't have called it back mean I wouldn't have called it back mean I wouldn't have called it back because I think that was a perfect because I think that was a perfect because I think that was a perfect opportunity for him to score. He was opportunity for him to score. He was opportunity for him to score. He was denied there. Yeah, I would have called denied there. Yeah, I would have called denied there. Yeah, I would have called the PK. I would have let the play go, the PK. I would have let the play go, the PK. I would have let the play go, wait to see because he was on the wait to see because he was on the wait to see because he was on the ground, let it go from there and then ground, let it go from there and then ground, let it go from there and then called it back. If I saw, you know, the

called it back. If I saw, you know, the called it back. If I saw, you know, the offside thing happened, I said, "Nah, offside thing happened, I said, "Nah, offside thing happened, I said, "Nah, Back here. That's a PA. I'm calling Back here. That's a PA. I'm calling Back here. That's a PA. I'm calling this." So, I don't know why they he this." So, I don't know why they he this." So, I don't know why they he didn't override that. Um, didn't override that. Um, didn't override that. Um, why did the V not catch this? why did the V not catch this? why did the V not catch this? I mean, as a there's a referee in the V I mean, as a there's a referee in the V I mean, as a there's a referee in the V booth, right? So, booth, right? So, booth, right? So, you're looking at this over and over. you're looking at this over and over. you're looking at this over and over. Stop play, reverse play, reverse play. Stop play, reverse play, reverse play. Stop play, reverse play, reverse play. What are your thoughts on that? What are your thoughts on that? What are your thoughts on that? >> I mean, even if the the V referee >> I mean, even if the the V referee >> I mean, even if the the V referee doesn't want to make the call, at least doesn't want to make the call, at least doesn't want to make the call, at least tell the center, "Hey, go look at it. Go tell the center, "Hey, go look at it. Go tell the center, "Hey, go look at it. Go look at it from this angle and tell us look at it from this angle and tell us look at it from this angle and tell us what you think." what you think." what you think." >> Yeah, I think that would have been >> Yeah, I think that would have been >> Yeah, I think that would have been Yeah, I mean I agree. Um, but I don't Yeah, I mean I agree. Um, but I don't Yeah, I mean I agree. Um, but I don't know if that's necessarily what V is know if that's necessarily what V is know if that's necessarily what V is there for. It's there for clear and there for. It's there for clear and there for. It's there for clear and obvious overturn. And maybe V didn't obvious overturn. And maybe V didn't obvious overturn. And maybe V didn't have enough. That's why they don't have have enough. That's why they don't have have enough. That's why they don't have them because like I said, he got that them because like I said, he got that them because like I said, he got that touch. So, I'm wait I'm interested to touch. So, I'm wait I'm interested to touch. So, I'm wait I'm interested to see when the commentary comes out from see when the commentary comes out from see when the commentary comes out from the V from this cuz uh Pro usually puts the V from this cuz uh Pro usually puts the V from this cuz uh Pro usually puts out a lot of the controversy um V out a lot of the controversy um V out a lot of the controversy um V reviews out on YouTube. So, whenever reviews out on YouTube. So, whenever reviews out on YouTube. So, whenever that comes out, I'm sure we're going to that comes out, I'm sure we're going to that comes out, I'm sure we're going to get some some better knowledge of why get some some better knowledge of why get some some better knowledge of why they didn't.

they didn't. they didn't. >> We're gonna have plenty of arguments on >> We're gonna have plenty of arguments on >> We're gonna have plenty of arguments on this one forever. Um, because of the V, this one forever. Um, because of the V, this one forever. Um, because of the V, I think that the the refereeing I think that the the refereeing I think that the the refereeing uh what we do is in the spotlight. Uh, uh what we do is in the spotlight. Uh, uh what we do is in the spotlight. Uh, more so, I think, than any other World more so, I think, than any other World more so, I think, than any other World Cup because any other World Cup, I don't Cup because any other World Cup, I don't Cup because any other World Cup, I don't think I've paid that much attention. think I've paid that much attention. think I've paid that much attention. I've been like, "Oh, the referee's doing I've been like, "Oh, the referee's doing I've been like, "Oh, the referee's doing this, referee's doing that. Eh, no big this, referee's doing that. Eh, no big this, referee's doing that. Eh, no big deal." But now the focus is on. I'm deal." But now the focus is on. I'm deal." But now the focus is on. I'm really really hyperfocused on it going, really really hyperfocused on it going, really really hyperfocused on it going, "So, how are they working this?" Right? "So, how are they working this?" Right? "So, how are they working this?" Right? >> Why are they not doing that? What's >> Why are they not doing that? What's >> Why are they not doing that? What's going on here? Who's in charge? What's going on here? Who's in charge? What's going on here? Who's in charge? What's what's the call? Um, and I see a lot of what's the call? Um, and I see a lot of what's the call? Um, and I see a lot of frustration coming from some of the frustration coming from some of the frustration coming from some of the teams where they're even starting to teams where they're even starting to teams where they're even starting to second guess the referee on the field second guess the referee on the field second guess the referee on the field and they're going, "Hey." and they're going, "Hey." and they're going, "Hey." >> And the referee goes, "No, no, no, no. I >> And the referee goes, "No, no, no, no. I >> And the referee goes, "No, no, no, no. I got it. Calls made." But I think of that got it. Calls made." But I think of that got it. Calls made." But I think of that if I'm on the field and some kid goes, if I'm on the field and some kid goes, if I'm on the field and some kid goes, "No, ref. Check it. Check it. It's done. "No, ref. Check it. Check it. It's done. "No, ref. Check it. Check it. It's done. It's done." It's done." It's done." >> Right? you know, it's like, I've got it. >> Right? you know, it's like, I've got it. >> Right? you know, it's like, I've got it. How much argument are you going to get How much argument are you going to get How much argument are you going to get from them and the coaches now? from them and the coaches now? from them and the coaches now? >> Well, and then if you if you cater to >> Well, and then if you if you cater to >> Well, and then if you if you cater to that to the the players doing the the V that to the the players doing the the V that to the the players doing the the V and your check-in every single time, now and your check-in every single time, now and your check-in every single time, now they're going to start questioning they're going to start questioning they're going to start questioning everything you do. But as a referee, you everything you do. But as a referee, you everything you do. But as a referee, you have to be committed to your call and have to be committed to your call and have to be committed to your call and you got to, you know, be confident you got to, you know, be confident you got to, you know, be confident saying, "Hey, this is my call." And that saying, "Hey, this is my call." And that saying, "Hey, this is my call." And that is what it is until, you know, like you is what it is until, you know, like you is what it is until, you know, like you said, VA overturns it with clear and said, VA overturns it with clear and said, VA overturns it with clear and obvious.

obvious. obvious. >> Well, they're they're constantly talking >> Well, they're they're constantly talking >> Well, they're they're constantly talking in the center's ear. They're all working in the center's ear. They're all working in the center's ear. They're all working as a team and communicating. And if you as a team and communicating. And if you as a team and communicating. And if you watch some of these games with some of watch some of these games with some of watch some of these games with some of the better referees that do it properly, the better referees that do it properly, the better referees that do it properly, they'll let you know, hey, nothing, they'll let you know, hey, nothing, they'll let you know, hey, nothing, which means V is already checking it which means V is already checking it which means V is already checking it while it's in play because let's say the while it's in play because let's say the while it's in play because let's say the ball doesn't go out of bounds or there's ball doesn't go out of bounds or there's ball doesn't go out of bounds or there's not a foul, so we don't have a stoppage. not a foul, so we don't have a stoppage. not a foul, so we don't have a stoppage. And we're going for a couple minutes, And we're going for a couple minutes, And we're going for a couple minutes, letting them know, hey, here V's already letting them know, hey, here V's already letting them know, hey, here V's already checked it. I don't need to stop it at checked it. I don't need to stop it at checked it. I don't need to stop it at the next stoppage and do a check. We the next stoppage and do a check. We the next stoppage and do a check. We already had it checked and we're here already had it checked and we're here already had it checked and we're here letting them know. And I I like when the letting them know. And I I like when the letting them know. And I I like when the refs do that because it lets us as fans refs do that because it lets us as fans refs do that because it lets us as fans know that actually know what they're know that actually know what they're know that actually know what they're talking about that it's already been talking about that it's already been talking about that it's already been checked. We're good. Let's go. V is checked. We're good. Let's go. V is checked. We're good. Let's go. V is aware of it. They saw nothing. We're aware of it. They saw nothing. We're aware of it. They saw nothing. We're going to play. It's going to play. It's going to play. It's >> interesting. It's very interesting. Like >> interesting. It's very interesting. Like >> interesting. It's very interesting. Like I said, it's it's in the spotlight now. I said, it's it's in the spotlight now. I said, it's it's in the spotlight now. I'm really hyperfocused on it and I I'm really hyperfocused on it and I I'm really hyperfocused on it and I didn't think that's what I would be didn't think that's what I would be didn't think that's what I would be focused on. Um but it's it's a big deal focused on. Um but it's it's a big deal focused on. Um but it's it's a big deal now and we're going to get further into now and we're going to get further into now and we're going to get further into it. Uh so expect to be talking about it. Uh so expect to be talking about it. Uh so expect to be talking about this one three World Cups from now. Um, this one three World Cups from now. Um, this one three World Cups from now. Um, it's still going to be there. This is a it's still going to be there. This is a it's still going to be there. This is a big deal and we got more to come for big deal and we got more to come for big deal and we got more to come for that. Morocco versus Haiti. Morocco that. Morocco versus Haiti. Morocco that. Morocco versus Haiti. Morocco finally shows up. One of the powerhouse finally shows up. One of the powerhouse finally shows up. One of the powerhouse teams that I thought was originally teams that I thought was originally teams that I thought was originally going to be there. They finally started going to be there. They finally started going to be there. They finally started scoring goals. They have not been doing scoring goals. They have not been doing scoring goals. They have not been doing much of anything. Uh, they're fast, much of anything. Uh, they're fast, much of anything. Uh, they're fast, highly technical, great tactics, highly technical, great tactics, highly technical, great tactics, but nothing. And I'm like, okay. All but nothing. And I'm like, okay. All but nothing. And I'm like, okay. All right. All right. They took Brazil to a right. All right. They took Brazil to a right. All right. They took Brazil to a one-1 draw. That's fantastic because one-1 draw. That's fantastic because one-1 draw. That's fantastic because that's a powerhouse, right? and then that's a powerhouse, right? and then that's a powerhouse, right? and then they just kind of laid back and slept they just kind of laid back and slept they just kind of laid back and slept the rest of the time. Now they're here.

the rest of the time. Now they're here. the rest of the time. Now they're here. So So So interesting thing um to see some of interesting thing um to see some of interesting thing um to see some of these teams finally light up. Turkey was these teams finally light up. Turkey was these teams finally light up. Turkey was another one I really wasn't sure what to another one I really wasn't sure what to another one I really wasn't sure what to expect starting out in the World Cup. I expect starting out in the World Cup. I expect starting out in the World Cup. I really thought Turkey was going to come really thought Turkey was going to come really thought Turkey was going to come into it like boom. Um, from a coach's into it like boom. Um, from a coach's into it like boom. Um, from a coach's perspective, I'm trying to see if you perspective, I'm trying to see if you perspective, I'm trying to see if you have a team that's firing on all have a team that's firing on all have a team that's firing on all cylinders through the offseason and you cylinders through the offseason and you cylinders through the offseason and you see it. What do you think are some of see it. What do you think are some of see it. What do you think are some of the things being missed as they get to the things being missed as they get to the things being missed as they get to the World Cup that they are not the World Cup that they are not the World Cup that they are not producing? You think it's the pressure? producing? You think it's the pressure? producing? You think it's the pressure? You think it's just the whole You think it's just the whole You think it's just the whole >> Yeah, I think I mean you as a coach, you >> Yeah, I think I mean you as a coach, you >> Yeah, I think I mean you as a coach, you can train all day long, but what you can train all day long, but what you can train all day long, but what you can't train is the pressure and and this can't train is the pressure and and this can't train is the pressure and and this the the big stage um that the World Cup the the big stage um that the World Cup the the big stage um that the World Cup has to offer. Um and so there's even has to offer. Um and so there's even has to offer. Um and so there's even though these are world class athletes, though these are world class athletes, though these are world class athletes, there's not anything quite like playing there's not anything quite like playing there's not anything quite like playing in the World Cup. So, and with some on, in the World Cup. So, and with some on, in the World Cup. So, and with some on, you know, like for the US on your home you know, like for the US on your home you know, like for the US on your home soil. Um, but soil. Um, but soil. Um, but you you h you can't recreate that you you h you can't recreate that you you h you can't recreate that pressure and that is those butterflies pressure and that is those butterflies pressure and that is those butterflies come into play and you know it's going come into play and you know it's going come into play and you know it's going to take a little while for them to to take a little while for them to to take a little while for them to settle in, settle in, settle in, >> right?

>> right? >> right? >> I mean, just speaking of Turkey alone, >> I mean, just speaking of Turkey alone, >> I mean, just speaking of Turkey alone, they had 62 shots in the first two they had 62 shots in the first two they had 62 shots in the first two games, no goals. games, no goals. games, no goals. >> Is that them not playing well or is that >> Is that them not playing well or is that >> Is that them not playing well or is that just the goalies making great saves? Who just the goalies making great saves? Who just the goalies making great saves? Who knows? They had they created their knows? They had they created their knows? They had they created their chances, they just couldn't put them chances, they just couldn't put them chances, they just couldn't put them away. I think Turkey was probably the away. I think Turkey was probably the away. I think Turkey was probably the better team than the other two that went better team than the other two that went better team than the other two that went on. They just got unlucky and didn't on. They just got unlucky and didn't on. They just got unlucky and didn't score. But of course, go against the US score. But of course, go against the US score. But of course, go against the US and their scrubs, they scored. So, >> tell us how much you love Team USA. Come >> tell us how much you love Team USA. Come on. on. on. >> I like them, but we'll see. >> I like them, but we'll see. >> I like them, but we'll see. >> No, I'm I'm with you. I I I've >> No, I'm I'm with you. I I I've >> No, I'm I'm with you. I I I've like them. I want to like USA. I really like them. I want to like USA. I really like them. I want to like USA. I really want to, but I don't know if if we're want to, but I don't know if if we're want to, but I don't know if if we're hyperritical because it's our own hyperritical because it's our own hyperritical because it's our own country, because we've coached here, country, because we've coached here, country, because we've coached here, because we seem to know which pathway because we seem to know which pathway because we seem to know which pathway these kids took. Then I'm going, they're these kids took. Then I'm going, they're these kids took. Then I'm going, they're missing that. Somebody didn't teach them missing that. Somebody didn't teach them missing that. Somebody didn't teach them that. What the heck? that. What the heck? that. What the heck? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I mean, what is your thought? >> I mean, what is your thought? >> I mean, what is your thought? >> I'm I'm liking what Pochettino is doing. >> I'm I'm liking what Pochettino is doing. >> I'm I'm liking what Pochettino is doing. I I like the the tactics. Um I like I I like the the tactics. Um I like I I like the the tactics. Um I like their movement, their speed of play. Um their movement, their speed of play. Um their movement, their speed of play. Um I mean, and so far they've been I mean, and so far they've been I mean, and so far they've been successful with it. I mean, you can't successful with it. I mean, you can't successful with it. I mean, you can't really take into account the turkey game really take into account the turkey game really take into account the turkey game just because he didn't have all his just because he didn't have all his just because he didn't have all his starters and, you know, he gave some starters and, you know, he gave some starters and, you know, he gave some other players playing time. Um, you other players playing time. Um, you other players playing time. Um, you don't want to get injuries, especially don't want to get injuries, especially don't want to get injuries, especially going into the knockout rounds. Um, but, going into the knockout rounds. Um, but, going into the knockout rounds. Um, but, you know, they're still keeping up and you know, they're still keeping up and you know, they're still keeping up and playing very well.

playing very well. playing very well. >> Voice of reason. I'll give you that. >> Voice of reason. I'll give you that. >> Voice of reason. I'll give you that. >> I mean, >> I mean, >> I mean, >> I'm good with it. >> I'm good with it. >> I'm good with it. >> I mean, yes, this is probably the best >> I mean, yes, this is probably the best >> I mean, yes, this is probably the best offensive USA team that I've seen in a offensive USA team that I've seen in a offensive USA team that I've seen in a very long time. very long time. very long time. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Unfortunately, I can't say the same for >> Unfortunately, I can't say the same for >> Unfortunately, I can't say the same for our defense. I love Richards. I love um our defense. I love Richards. I love um our defense. I love Richards. I love um >> Tim. >> Tim. >> Tim. >> Uh yeah, I mean he's he's there. He's >> Uh yeah, I mean he's he's there. He's >> Uh yeah, I mean he's he's there. He's he's the he's the glue. He's the glue. I he's the he's the glue. He's the glue. I he's the he's the glue. He's the glue. I mean, we'll see. He's he doesn't have mean, we'll see. He's he doesn't have mean, we'll see. He's he doesn't have the speed that he used to have, but the speed that he used to have, but the speed that he used to have, but who's a who's a left back for us? Um who's a who's a left back for us? Um who's a who's a left back for us? Um >> left back for us. Uh no >> left back for us. Uh no >> left back for us. Uh no >> Ken McKini. No. >> Ken McKini. No. >> Ken McKini. No. >> Nope. >> Nope. >> Nope. >> Any idea? I can't think of it. Anyway, >> Any idea? I can't think of it. Anyway, >> Any idea? I can't think of it. Anyway, well, he has he has a yellow card, so he well, he has he has a yellow card, so he well, he has he has a yellow card, so he did play in the last game and I can't did play in the last game and I can't did play in the last game and I can't think of his name right now, but um but think of his name right now, but um but think of his name right now, but um but he's he's those are our two glue back he's he's those are our two glue back he's he's those are our two glue back there, but take them out of the game and there, but take them out of the game and there, but take them out of the game and you could see that we were just like you could see that we were just like you could see that we were just like Swiss cheese just getting cut up and we Swiss cheese just getting cut up and we Swiss cheese just getting cut up and we could score goals, but if we can't stop could score goals, but if we can't stop could score goals, but if we can't stop them, it's going to be a very long uh them, it's going to be a very long uh them, it's going to be a very long uh round of 32. round of 32. round of 32. >> Has long been vulnerable to >> Has long been vulnerable to >> Has long been vulnerable to counterattacks like that and they can counterattacks like that and they can counterattacks like that and they can split us pretty easy.

split us pretty easy. split us pretty easy. >> Yeah. So hopefully Pettino can get that >> Yeah. So hopefully Pettino can get that >> Yeah. So hopefully Pettino can get that last part sorted out a little better and last part sorted out a little better and last part sorted out a little better and they might have a better chance. Um I they might have a better chance. Um I they might have a better chance. Um I like it. I'm with you. I like what I like it. I'm with you. I like what I like it. I'm with you. I like what I see. Really want to like them more. I I see. Really want to like them more. I I see. Really want to like them more. I I do I agree. I like what Pochettino has do I agree. I like what Pochettino has do I agree. I like what Pochettino has done with this team. I was one of those done with this team. I was one of those done with this team. I was one of those people watching the uh US us versus the people watching the uh US us versus the people watching the uh US us versus the world US versus the world world US versus the world world US versus the world >> and watching the buildup of how many >> and watching the buildup of how many >> and watching the buildup of how many times they failed and he's trying to get times they failed and he's trying to get times they failed and he's trying to get them to click and no I'm going to try them to click and no I'm going to try them to click and no I'm going to try these players. I'm going to try these these players. I'm going to try these these players. I'm going to try these players. I'm going to try these players players. I'm going to try these players players. I'm going to try these players and then showing up game one of the and then showing up game one of the and then showing up game one of the World Cup and going full tilt. I'm like World Cup and going full tilt. I'm like World Cup and going full tilt. I'm like yeah. So he was the worst coach ever yeah. So he was the worst coach ever yeah. So he was the worst coach ever going into the World Cup. Yep. going into the World Cup. Yep. going into the World Cup. Yep. >> And he was a mad genius the day after >> And he was a mad genius the day after >> And he was a mad genius the day after the World Cup. People like, "Well, but the World Cup. People like, "Well, but the World Cup. People like, "Well, but that's the way." that's the way." that's the way." >> Well, he was supposed to only do the >> Well, he was supposed to only do the >> Well, he was supposed to only do the World Cup and his contract was supposed World Cup and his contract was supposed World Cup and his contract was supposed to be done, but breaking news yesterday, to be done, but breaking news yesterday, to be done, but breaking news yesterday, US has offered him the uh coaching job US has offered him the uh coaching job US has offered him the uh coaching job for 2030. So, we'll see how that goes. for 2030. So, we'll see how that goes. for 2030. So, we'll see how that goes. Let's Let's let him win a knockout round Let's Let's let him win a knockout round Let's Let's let him win a knockout round stage first. Let's play somebody.

stage first. Let's play somebody. stage first. Let's play somebody. >> He is a genius now. Isn't that crazy? >> He is a genius now. Isn't that crazy? >> He is a genius now. Isn't that crazy? >> Well, and you got to think, you know, >> Well, and you got to think, you know, >> Well, and you got to think, you know, those warm-up games and those those warm-up games and those those warm-up games and those friendlies, friendlies, friendlies, >> he's testing things out as a coach. >> he's testing things out as a coach. >> he's testing things out as a coach. You're testing things out, seeing what You're testing things out, seeing what You're testing things out, seeing what works. Those games are meaningless. works. Those games are meaningless. works. Those games are meaningless. they're they're they don't, you know, they're they're they don't, you know, they're they're they don't, you know, but us, you know, just like in the NFL, but us, you know, just like in the NFL, but us, you know, just like in the NFL, you watch the the preseason games and you watch the the preseason games and you watch the the preseason games and people put stake on those, but it's it's people put stake on those, but it's it's people put stake on those, but it's it's not the same. So, until he's he's not the same. So, until he's he's not the same. So, until he's he's fine-tuning pieces and tactics, fine-tuning pieces and tactics, fine-tuning pieces and tactics, formations, players, formations, players, formations, players, >> and then now he's at the big stage and >> and then now he's at the big stage and >> and then now he's at the big stage and he's taking care of business. he's taking care of business. he's taking care of business. >> I mean, the US actually looks like they >> I mean, the US actually looks like they >> I mean, the US actually looks like they have creativity, so which we usually have creativity, so which we usually have creativity, so which we usually lack. We usually just want to go forward lack. We usually just want to go forward lack. We usually just want to go forward and boom the ball and then go and then and boom the ball and then go and then and boom the ball and then go and then play defense. But we look like we can play defense. But we look like we can play defense. But we look like we can control the possession, get up top with control the possession, get up top with control the possession, get up top with Balagon, who Balagon, who Balagon, who >> I I said from the beginning is going to >> I I said from the beginning is going to >> I I said from the beginning is going to be our number one. He still is with be our number one. He still is with be our number one. He still is with Pissic. Get him and D and get him going. Pissic. Get him and D and get him going. Pissic. Get him and D and get him going. The US could go far, but they got to The US could go far, but they got to The US could go far, but they got to keep clicking. So, we'll see how it keep clicking. So, we'll see how it keep clicking. So, we'll see how it goes. goes. goes. >> Craziness how this all works seeing this >> Craziness how this all works seeing this >> Craziness how this all works seeing this this backstory stuff. All right, let's this backstory stuff. All right, let's this backstory stuff. All right, let's move on. So, Switzerland versus Canada.

move on. So, Switzerland versus Canada. move on. So, Switzerland versus Canada. 2-nil Switzerland. They're still in it. 2-nil Switzerland. They're still in it. 2-nil Switzerland. They're still in it. Bosnia Herszgoina. Bosnia's in it. I was Bosnia Herszgoina. Bosnia's in it. I was Bosnia Herszgoina. Bosnia's in it. I was not expecting Bosnia to still be there, not expecting Bosnia to still be there, not expecting Bosnia to still be there, but here we are. Um, but here we are. Um, but here we are. Um, they have only played in one other World they have only played in one other World they have only played in one other World Cup back in 2014. Cup back in 2014. Cup back in 2014. >> Uh, so for them from that to where they >> Uh, so for them from that to where they >> Uh, so for them from that to where they are now, that is massive step up in are now, that is massive step up in are now, that is massive step up in performance. Uh, kudos to them. performance. Uh, kudos to them. performance. Uh, kudos to them. Congratulations, guys. Good stuff. Congratulations, guys. Good stuff. Congratulations, guys. Good stuff. Scotland versus Brazil. Okay, Scotland versus Brazil. Okay, Scotland versus Brazil. Okay, Scots Scots Scots couldn't put anything up. Brazil just couldn't put anything up. Brazil just couldn't put anything up. Brazil just overpowered them completely. Um, they overpowered them completely. Um, they overpowered them completely. Um, they were hanging on as of yesterday in the were hanging on as of yesterday in the were hanging on as of yesterday in the ninth, no, the eighth spot of the top ninth, no, the eighth spot of the top ninth, no, the eighth spot of the top >> third place teams. >> third place teams. >> third place teams. >> They're they're 10th as of as of >> They're they're 10th as of as of >> They're they're 10th as of as of yesterday. yesterday. yesterday. >> They've been relegated in that. So, >> They've been relegated in that. So, >> They've been relegated in that. So, >> and they have a very very outside >> and they have a very very outside >> and they have a very very outside chance, but they need a lot of miracles chance, but they need a lot of miracles chance, but they need a lot of miracles to happen. They're not completely out of to happen. They're not completely out of to happen. They're not completely out of it yet, but let's go Scotland. it yet, but let's go Scotland. it yet, but let's go Scotland. >> I don't know about you, but I've been in >> I don't know about you, but I've been in >> I don't know about you, but I've been in tournaments like that where I've taken a tournaments like that where I've taken a tournaments like that where I've taken a team and you're at the very end of that team and you're at the very end of that team and you're at the very end of that three day three game series going, three day three game series going, three day three game series going, "Okay, if that team loses, if that one "Okay, if that team loses, if that one "Okay, if that team loses, if that one ties, this one gets hit by a meteor, we ties, this one gets hit by a meteor, we ties, this one gets hit by a meteor, we go through." Yes. Yes, we go through." Yes. Yes, we go through." Yes. Yes, we >> So, you're saying there's a chance?

>> So, you're saying there's a chance? >> So, you're saying there's a chance? >> Saying there's a chance. All right. >> Saying there's a chance. All right. >> Saying there's a chance. All right. Which is kind of interesting. Which is kind of interesting. Which is kind of interesting. >> Always. And you're always you're always >> Always. And you're always you're always >> Always. And you're always you're always uh putting out hope, you know, because uh putting out hope, you know, because uh putting out hope, you know, because not over until the numbers say not over until the numbers say not over until the numbers say otherwise. Hey, the US have been talking otherwise. Hey, the US have been talking otherwise. Hey, the US have been talking about miracles the whole tournament. So about miracles the whole tournament. So about miracles the whole tournament. So maybe Scotland need maybe Scotland need maybe Scotland need >> Why not Scotland and Donnie the duck, >> Why not Scotland and Donnie the duck, >> Why not Scotland and Donnie the duck, the tartan army. the tartan army. the tartan army. >> Yes, yes, yes. We've all had the kilt >> Yes, yes, yes. We've all had the kilt >> Yes, yes, yes. We've all had the kilt conversation. But you guys are more than conversation. But you guys are more than conversation. But you guys are more than welcome in this World Cup and hopefully welcome in this World Cup and hopefully welcome in this World Cup and hopefully there's a good result for you here. If there's a good result for you here. If there's a good result for you here. If not, well played, guys. Really good not, well played, guys. Really good not, well played, guys. Really good stuff. Uh Mexico versus Chetcha. That stuff. Uh Mexico versus Chetcha. That stuff. Uh Mexico versus Chetcha. That was a great night. I think it was an was a great night. I think it was an was a great night. I think it was an easy win for Mexico. no problems there. easy win for Mexico. no problems there. easy win for Mexico. no problems there. Um, I was really, really, really rooting Um, I was really, really, really rooting Um, I was really, really, really rooting for Guo. for Guo. for Guo. >> Um, because by all indications, he >> Um, because by all indications, he >> Um, because by all indications, he wasn't coming on, wasn't coming on, wasn't coming on, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> Everybody I talked to, why is Memo not >> Everybody I talked to, why is Memo not >> Everybody I talked to, why is Memo not starting? Why is he not here? And I'm starting? Why is he not here? And I'm starting? Why is he not here? And I'm like, look guys, if you're the coach, like, look guys, if you're the coach, like, look guys, if you're the coach, you're going to go with tried and true you're going to go with tried and true you're going to go with tried and true until it's locked in. And then once it's until it's locked in. And then once it's until it's locked in. And then once it's locked in, you go, "Okay, hey, go ahead locked in, you go, "Okay, hey, go ahead locked in, you go, "Okay, hey, go ahead and suit up, man. We got you."

and suit up, man. We got you." and suit up, man. We got you." >> Right? So that made sense to me that he >> Right? So that made sense to me that he >> Right? So that made sense to me that he got the last 20 minutes of game time. got the last 20 minutes of game time. got the last 20 minutes of game time. That was good. Um I didn't think he That was good. Um I didn't think he That was good. Um I didn't think he should start. I think the team should should start. I think the team should should start. I think the team should have secured the win first and then go have secured the win first and then go have secured the win first and then go with that. So I thought that was good. I with that. So I thought that was good. I with that. So I thought that was good. I did like the fact that he got the big did like the fact that he got the big did like the fact that he got the big standing O and out of that buildout from standing O and out of that buildout from standing O and out of that buildout from his his kick, they ended up getting that his his kick, they ended up getting that his his kick, they ended up getting that third goal. third goal. third goal. >> So good job. Congratulations on six >> So good job. Congratulations on six >> So good job. Congratulations on six World Cups and actually playing in four. World Cups and actually playing in four. World Cups and actually playing in four. >> Wow. Most people are lucky to just get >> Wow. Most people are lucky to just get >> Wow. Most people are lucky to just get one. So that's pretty awesome. one. So that's pretty awesome. one. So that's pretty awesome. >> And you can tell his team loves them. >> And you can tell his team loves them. >> And you can tell his team loves them. Like after the game, they picked them Like after the game, they picked them Like after the game, they picked them up, put them on their shoulders, carried up, put them on their shoulders, carried up, put them on their shoulders, carried them around. them around. them around. >> That was great. >> That was great. >> That was great. >> So it it's a win for Mexico. Well done. >> So it it's a win for Mexico. Well done. >> So it it's a win for Mexico. Well done. >> Pretty cool. So we started this show uh >> Pretty cool. So we started this show uh >> Pretty cool. So we started this show uh few weeks back and we talked about South few weeks back and we talked about South few weeks back and we talked about South Africa, right? The first match, the Africa, right? The first match, the Africa, right? The first match, the Bafana Bafana. They are still here. And Bafana Bafana. They are still here. And Bafana Bafana. They are still here. And back then we wrote them off, right? I back then we wrote them off, right? I back then we wrote them off, right? I had I was talking to my co-host at that had I was talking to my co-host at that had I was talking to my co-host at that time and we wrote them off like they're time and we wrote them off like they're time and we wrote them off like they're not going to do anything. They're still not going to do anything. They're still not going to do anything. They're still here. They're going into the round of here. They're going into the round of here. They're going into the round of 32.

32. 32. What is going on here? Um, all new What is going on here? Um, all new What is going on here? Um, all new players really. These are all kids with players really. These are all kids with players really. These are all kids with no experience, but they have a lot of no experience, but they have a lot of no experience, but they have a lot of enthusiasm. And sometimes that gets you enthusiasm. And sometimes that gets you enthusiasm. And sometimes that gets you places. Um, I think while the more places. Um, I think while the more places. Um, I think while the more seasoned teams are working on strategy seasoned teams are working on strategy seasoned teams are working on strategy and how to combat them, they're just and how to combat them, they're just and how to combat them, they're just going, "Yeah, score more goals. Woo! Run going, "Yeah, score more goals. Woo! Run going, "Yeah, score more goals. Woo! Run that way. Yeah." Because they've never that way. Yeah." Because they've never that way. Yeah." Because they've never been here. been here. been here. >> So, that's an awesome thing. And this >> So, that's an awesome thing. And this >> So, that's an awesome thing. And this World Cup has been full of those World Cup has been full of those World Cup has been full of those surprises, right? So, South Korea then, surprises, right? So, South Korea then, surprises, right? So, South Korea then, I thought they were going to be in I thought they were going to be in I thought they were going to be in second place or first place. What's second place or first place. What's second place or first place. What's going on with them? What happened there? going on with them? What happened there? going on with them? What happened there? >> Well, Sun not playing in that third game >> Well, Sun not playing in that third game >> Well, Sun not playing in that third game kind of hurts them. That's their number kind of hurts them. That's their number kind of hurts them. That's their number one. That's the heart of the team. Him one. That's the heart of the team. Him one. That's the heart of the team. Him being injured and not playing really being injured and not playing really being injured and not playing really took the wind out of their cells, I took the wind out of their cells, I took the wind out of their cells, I think, and they just couldn't perform in think, and they just couldn't perform in think, and they just couldn't perform in the third game. the third game. the third game. >> I think it did. Uh, any thoughts on >> I think it did. Uh, any thoughts on >> I think it did. Uh, any thoughts on South Korea? South Korea? South Korea? >> No, same. I I share. Um, I mean, you >> No, same. I I share. Um, I mean, you >> No, same. I I share. Um, I mean, you build that team and and he's the heart build that team and and he's the heart build that team and and he's the heart and soul of that team. And if he's not and soul of that team. And if he's not and soul of that team. And if he's not playing, it's just lowers lowers your playing, it's just lowers lowers your playing, it's just lowers lowers your expectations.

expectations. expectations. >> Yeah. Yeah. All right, let's get to the >> Yeah. Yeah. All right, let's get to the >> Yeah. Yeah. All right, let's get to the fun stuff. Ecuador versus Germany. Oh my fun stuff. Ecuador versus Germany. Oh my fun stuff. Ecuador versus Germany. Oh my lord. So, for the first time ever in a lord. So, for the first time ever in a lord. So, for the first time ever in a World Cup tournament, this was awesome, World Cup tournament, this was awesome, World Cup tournament, this was awesome, right? Ecuador right? Ecuador right? Ecuador beat Germany. Crazy as it seems. Uh, beat Germany. Crazy as it seems. Uh, beat Germany. Crazy as it seems. Uh, they had other ideas than just taking they had other ideas than just taking they had other ideas than just taking the loss and getting overpowered. They the loss and getting overpowered. They the loss and getting overpowered. They came to play hard, rugged, tough soccer. came to play hard, rugged, tough soccer. came to play hard, rugged, tough soccer. Okay. Um, Okay. Um, Okay. Um, they actually took it to the Germans they actually took it to the Germans they actually took it to the Germans here. They kept pressing the German here. They kept pressing the German here. They kept pressing the German team. Finally got a corner kick. Kicked team. Finally got a corner kick. Kicked team. Finally got a corner kick. Kicked it right out of Neuer's hands. Neuer, it right out of Neuer's hands. Neuer, it right out of Neuer's hands. Neuer, one thing I haven't seen, and I've one thing I haven't seen, and I've one thing I haven't seen, and I've talked to myself, other players. They talked to myself, other players. They talked to myself, other players. They say maybe he's getting older. And he say maybe he's getting older. And he say maybe he's getting older. And he just he waited to basket catch that just he waited to basket catch that just he waited to basket catch that ball. He he didn't go to it. He was ball. He he didn't go to it. He was ball. He he didn't go to it. He was like, "Here it comes. I am Neuer. Come like, "Here it comes. I am Neuer. Come like, "Here it comes. I am Neuer. Come to me ball." And the Ecuadorian player to me ball." And the Ecuadorian player to me ball." And the Ecuadorian player goes, "No." goes, "No." goes, "No." Licks it out of his hands into the goal. Licks it out of his hands into the goal. Licks it out of his hands into the goal. Cool stuff, right? That was great. So, Cool stuff, right? That was great. So, Cool stuff, right? That was great. So, let's talk a little bit about some of let's talk a little bit about some of let's talk a little bit about some of the decisions on this game. We're going the decisions on this game. We're going the decisions on this game. We're going to pull up a slide here, and I want you to pull up a slide here, and I want you to pull up a slide here, and I want you guys to take a look. Now, this is guys to take a look. Now, this is guys to take a look. Now, this is another one of those big controversies another one of those big controversies another one of those big controversies that we've seen in this World Cup. the that we've seen in this World Cup. the that we've seen in this World Cup. the all female team, the all female American all female team, the all female American all female team, the all female American team, Tory Penzo, uh what was it? Carrie team, Tory Penzo, uh what was it? Carrie team, Tory Penzo, uh what was it? Carrie Mayo, Brooke Mayo, and Katherine Nesbet.

Mayo, Brooke Mayo, and Katherine Nesbet. Mayo, Brooke Mayo, and Katherine Nesbet. They were the ones running this game, They were the ones running this game, They were the ones running this game, which I think they're doing a fantastic which I think they're doing a fantastic which I think they're doing a fantastic job. job. job. Here's the question, right? First half, Here's the question, right? First half, Here's the question, right? First half, German player kicks the ball high up and German player kicks the ball high up and German player kicks the ball high up and close to the Ecuadorian player's head. close to the Ecuadorian player's head. close to the Ecuadorian player's head. Okay. Uh it actually struck the Okay. Uh it actually struck the Okay. Uh it actually struck the Ecuadorian player's head on his way back Ecuadorian player's head on his way back Ecuadorian player's head on his way back down. down. down. There was no foul call by the referee, There was no foul call by the referee, There was no foul call by the referee, no V review. Germany scored from the no V review. Germany scored from the no V review. Germany scored from the resulting pass of this one. So, resulting pass of this one. So, resulting pass of this one. So, very much rightly so, the Ecuadorian very much rightly so, the Ecuadorian very much rightly so, the Ecuadorian coach is losing his mind. What the heck? coach is losing his mind. What the heck? coach is losing his mind. What the heck? Did he go out for a cup of coffee? What Did he go out for a cup of coffee? What Did he go out for a cup of coffee? What happened here? Your thoughts on this happened here? Your thoughts on this happened here? Your thoughts on this play? play? play? >> I think it's a legitimate high kick. Uh, >> I think it's a legitimate high kick. Uh, >> I think it's a legitimate high kick. Uh, dangerous play. Um, yes, the the dangerous play. Um, yes, the the dangerous play. Um, yes, the the Ecuadorian player went in and and but Ecuadorian player went in and and but Ecuadorian player went in and and but he's trying to head the ball and it just he's trying to head the ball and it just he's trying to head the ball and it just hit his foot. So, hit his foot. So, hit his foot. So, it's a dangerous play. it's a dangerous play. it's a dangerous play. >> Okay. You want to call this foul? >> Okay. You want to call this foul? >> Okay. You want to call this foul? >> All day. >> All day. >> All day. >> All day. Okay. All right, Miss Tiff.

>> All day. Okay. All right, Miss Tiff. >> All day. Okay. All right, Miss Tiff. >> First of all, I'd like to start off with >> First of all, I'd like to start off with >> First of all, I'd like to start off with uh Tori does a great job. She did a uh Tori does a great job. She did a uh Tori does a great job. She did a great job in the South Africa Czecha great job in the South Africa Czecha great job in the South Africa Czecha game. game. game. >> Oh, yeah. She still did a great job >> Oh, yeah. She still did a great job >> Oh, yeah. She still did a great job here, but missing a call, especially here, but missing a call, especially here, but missing a call, especially early in the game, you lose a little bit early in the game, you lose a little bit early in the game, you lose a little bit of credibility, especially if Ecuador of credibility, especially if Ecuador of credibility, especially if Ecuador thinks that they are on the losing end thinks that they are on the losing end thinks that they are on the losing end of that call. So, any call after that of that call. So, any call after that of that call. So, any call after that they think that they should get that they think that they should get that they think that they should get that call or anything against them, they're call or anything against them, they're call or anything against them, they're going to argue. You lose any credibility going to argue. You lose any credibility going to argue. You lose any credibility missing that call right there. V should missing that call right there. V should missing that call right there. V should have helped her out. Only thing I can have helped her out. Only thing I can have helped her out. Only thing I can think that maybe was not a dangerous think that maybe was not a dangerous think that maybe was not a dangerous play like he said like Brian said play like he said like Brian said play like he said like Brian said leaning into it his foot was already up leaning into it his foot was already up leaning into it his foot was already up there the Ecuador player comes there to there the Ecuador player comes there to there the Ecuador player comes there to me he still has cleats up I'm calling me he still has cleats up I'm calling me he still has cleats up I'm calling dangerous play coming out dangerous play coming out dangerous play coming out >> so game management which is where where >> so game management which is where where >> so game management which is where where you're coming from on this uh and the you're coming from on this uh and the you're coming from on this uh and the foul itself dangerous play game foul itself dangerous play game foul itself dangerous play game management yes if you miss a call like management yes if you miss a call like management yes if you miss a call like that not even a missed call let me give that not even a missed call let me give that not even a missed call let me give you my devil's advocate point on this to you my devil's advocate point on this to you my devil's advocate point on this to me and I've done this many times over me and I've done this many times over me and I've done this many times over the years. So, I'm one of those that the years. So, I'm one of those that the years. So, I'm one of those that gets yelled at quite a bit every now and gets yelled at quite a bit every now and gets yelled at quite a bit every now and then. Um, the ball the foot was already then. Um, the ball the foot was already then. Um, the ball the foot was already up. He's about three feet away. I'm not up. He's about three feet away. I'm not up. He's about three feet away. I'm not calling that. That's dangerous play, calling that. That's dangerous play, calling that. That's dangerous play, right? Or playing in a dangerous manner.

right? Or playing in a dangerous manner. right? Or playing in a dangerous manner. The player himself, from what I see The player himself, from what I see The player himself, from what I see frame by frame, looks up, sees it, and frame by frame, looks up, sees it, and frame by frame, looks up, sees it, and then moves his head into his foot. Ball then moves his head into his foot. Ball then moves his head into his foot. Ball was way overhead, right? Let's call it, was way overhead, right? Let's call it, was way overhead, right? Let's call it, oh, a quick reaction. He just went in. oh, a quick reaction. He just went in. oh, a quick reaction. He just went in. He thought he was going to get it. No, He thought he was going to get it. No, He thought he was going to get it. No, he knew what he was doing. But we can't he knew what he was doing. But we can't he knew what he was doing. But we can't referee intent. Okay. I I can't call referee intent. Okay. I I can't call referee intent. Okay. I I can't call intent. I don't know that. But what I intent. I don't know that. But what I intent. I don't know that. But what I can say is I wouldn't have called that can say is I wouldn't have called that can say is I wouldn't have called that kick in the first place. The coming kick in the first place. The coming kick in the first place. The coming down, I probably would have given him a down, I probably would have given him a down, I probably would have given him a yellow after the goal was scored and yellow after the goal was scored and yellow after the goal was scored and come back and said, "Yeah, okay, foul. come back and said, "Yeah, okay, foul. come back and said, "Yeah, okay, foul. But you're actually the one for But you're actually the one for But you're actually the one for dangerous play. I'm not going to give dangerous play. I'm not going to give dangerous play. I'm not going to give you the yellow, but I'm going to give it you the yellow, but I'm going to give it you the yellow, but I'm going to give it to him." Period. End of story. to him." Period. End of story. to him." Period. End of story. Controversial. Controversial. Controversial. I'm telling you right now that causes I'm telling you right now that causes I'm telling you right now that causes all kinds of problems. But I think all kinds of problems. But I think all kinds of problems. But I think that's what she saw. I think she saw the that's what she saw. I think she saw the that's what she saw. I think she saw the the kick up, then she saw the player the kick up, then she saw the player the kick up, then she saw the player interact with the foot. She let it play interact with the foot. She let it play interact with the foot. She let it play because after that she was like, "Oh, because after that she was like, "Oh, because after that she was like, "Oh, he's trying to foul the guy with the he's trying to foul the guy with the he's trying to foul the guy with the ball and get that play stopped." That ball and get that play stopped." That ball and get that play stopped." That was my take on. So she let it go. was my take on. So she let it go. was my take on. So she let it go. Results in a goal. Okay. And again, Results in a goal. Okay. And again, Results in a goal. Okay. And again, we're dealing with the laws of the game we're dealing with the laws of the game we're dealing with the laws of the game and the application. Experience comes and the application. Experience comes and the application. Experience comes into it. Um, if you're looking at what's into it. Um, if you're looking at what's into it. Um, if you're looking at what's going to happen afterwards, game going to happen afterwards, game going to happen afterwards, game management, then you're thinking, okay, management, then you're thinking, okay, management, then you're thinking, okay, if I do nothing here, if I don't manage if I do nothing here, if I don't manage if I do nothing here, if I don't manage this one way or the other, this gets out this one way or the other, this gets out this one way or the other, this gets out of control. If I'm looking at the coach, of control. If I'm looking at the coach, of control. If I'm looking at the coach, right, he's losing his mind because I right, he's losing his mind because I right, he's losing his mind because I just blew a major call that could have just blew a major call that could have just blew a major call that could have cost him a game, right? Um, and and

cost him a game, right? Um, and and cost him a game, right? Um, and and again, my way of handling it would have again, my way of handling it would have again, my way of handling it would have been I would have let that one go. On been I would have let that one go. On been I would have let that one go. On the way down, he did hit him. play on. the way down, he did hit him. play on. the way down, he did hit him. play on. Finish. Come back. Hey, come here. Come Finish. Come back. Hey, come here. Come Finish. Come back. Hey, come here. Come here. Come here. Come. Yeah, you got the here. Come here. Come. Yeah, you got the here. Come here. Come. Yeah, you got the goal. But that's still a foul. There's a goal. But that's still a foul. There's a goal. But that's still a foul. There's a yellow for you. You okay? All right, yellow for you. You okay? All right, yellow for you. You okay? All right, somebody check him out. Done. But that somebody check him out. Done. But that somebody check him out. Done. But that was that that would have been the way I was that that would have been the way I was that that would have been the way I would have handled that. Can't say what would have handled that. Can't say what would have handled that. Can't say what I would have done in the World Cup. I I would have done in the World Cup. I I would have done in the World Cup. I probably would have just frozen there probably would have just frozen there probably would have just frozen there going, "Uh, guys, what am I looking at, going, "Uh, guys, what am I looking at, going, "Uh, guys, what am I looking at, guys?" But then again, there was nothing guys?" But then again, there was nothing guys?" But then again, there was nothing done with V. It was all hers. And as done with V. It was all hers. And as done with V. It was all hers. And as you've said several times, V may have you've said several times, V may have you've said several times, V may have said, "Well, your call on the field. You said, "Well, your call on the field. You said, "Well, your call on the field. You got this. You got this." And she went, got this. You got this." And she went, got this. You got this." And she went, "Let it go. I'm going for it." "Let it go. I'm going for it." "Let it go. I'm going for it." Well, I think um it was what two minutes Well, I think um it was what two minutes Well, I think um it was what two minutes in. in. in. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> You know, and if if V this was the the >> You know, and if if V this was the the >> You know, and if if V this was the the what the first time an all women crew, what the first time an all women crew, what the first time an all women crew, all female crew all female crew all female crew >> second >> second >> second >> second time. So all female crew >> second time. So all female crew >> second time. So all female crew >> two minutes into this game and then the >> two minutes into this game and then the >> two minutes into this game and then the V steps in and undermines all you know V steps in and undermines all you know V steps in and undermines all you know that kind of sets a tone as well. So that kind of sets a tone as well. So that kind of sets a tone as well. So maybe that's why V just let it let it maybe that's why V just let it let it maybe that's why V just let it let it go. Let the center um her call stand.

go. Let the center um her call stand. go. Let the center um her call stand. >> Good take on that. And I mean, he does >> Good take on that. And I mean, he does >> Good take on that. And I mean, he does he does get a touch on the ball before he does get a touch on the ball before he does get a touch on the ball before the player's head is in there. She's the player's head is in there. She's the player's head is in there. She's right there. I mean, Tori is probably in right there. I mean, Tori is probably in right there. I mean, Tori is probably in better position more times than most men better position more times than most men better position more times than most men out there. If you watch her, she's at out there. If you watch her, she's at out there. If you watch her, she's at the top of that 18. She's there. You the top of that 18. She's there. You the top of that 18. She's there. You can't say that she was not in position can't say that she was not in position can't say that she was not in position to make that call. So, what she saw, to make that call. So, what she saw, to make that call. So, what she saw, she's going to go with it. She knows she's going to go with it. She knows she's going to go with it. She knows what she's doing. So, what she's doing. So, what she's doing. So, >> I'm not I'm not going to argue with her. >> I'm not I'm not going to argue with her. >> I'm not I'm not going to argue with her. I've seen dangerous play in in many I've seen dangerous play in in many I've seen dangerous play in in many instances. I'm sure you've seen it in instances. I'm sure you've seen it in instances. I'm sure you've seen it in many in instances both ways, right? many in instances both ways, right? many in instances both ways, right? There's a player putting himself in a There's a player putting himself in a There's a player putting himself in a dangerous position. That's playing in a dangerous position. That's playing in a dangerous position. That's playing in a dangerous manner. If you stick your head dangerous manner. If you stick your head dangerous manner. If you stick your head down where the player's about to kick a down where the player's about to kick a down where the player's about to kick a ball, that's playing a dangerous manner. ball, that's playing a dangerous manner. ball, that's playing a dangerous manner. You can't fault the guy for taking the You can't fault the guy for taking the You can't fault the guy for taking the kick there. I'm kind of going with that kick there. I'm kind of going with that kick there. I'm kind of going with that here. Yes, the high kick foul as we hear here. Yes, the high kick foul as we hear here. Yes, the high kick foul as we hear all the time. That's a high kick. High all the time. That's a high kick. High all the time. That's a high kick. High kick. Ah, dangerous play, guys. It's kick. Ah, dangerous play, guys. It's kick. Ah, dangerous play, guys. It's playing in a dangerous manner. dangerous playing in a dangerous manner. dangerous playing in a dangerous manner. dangerous play. Um so it's interesting that this play. Um so it's interesting that this play. Um so it's interesting that this is sparked another debate about is sparked another debate about is sparked another debate about refereeing and the V. Um earlier or refereeing and the V. Um earlier or refereeing and the V. Um earlier or later in the game there was another call later in the game there was another call later in the game there was another call where he was running down the field where he was running down the field where he was running down the field player German uh Ecuador got the ball.

player German uh Ecuador got the ball. player German uh Ecuador got the ball. German player fouls him very light I German player fouls him very light I German player fouls him very light I thought very lightly but foul. Took the thought very lightly but foul. Took the thought very lightly but foul. Took the ball away ran it into goal. Comes in to ball away ran it into goal. Comes in to ball away ran it into goal. Comes in to score. gets clipped, not particularly, score. gets clipped, not particularly, score. gets clipped, not particularly, but just enough to make it look good for but just enough to make it look good for but just enough to make it look good for a penalty. And she calls a penalty. a penalty. And she calls a penalty. a penalty. And she calls a penalty. Called a penalty. Okay. V came back at Called a penalty. Okay. V came back at Called a penalty. Okay. V came back at that point and said, "Hey, there was a that point and said, "Hey, there was a that point and said, "Hey, there was a foul earlier in the buildup. foul earlier in the buildup. foul earlier in the buildup. Let's review that." I don't remember did Let's review that." I don't remember did Let's review that." I don't remember did she review that or not, but she called she review that or not, but she called she review that or not, but she called it back. She did review. it back. She did review. it back. She did review. >> Yep. it it went to V and then she did >> Yep. it it went to V and then she did >> Yep. it it went to V and then she did the signal and she had to go over and the signal and she had to go over and the signal and she had to go over and look at it and they said, "Hey, look at look at it and they said, "Hey, look at look at it and they said, "Hey, look at this." this." this." >> She called the penalty back, >> She called the penalty back, >> She called the penalty back, >> right? And said, "Nope, >> right? And said, "Nope, >> right? And said, "Nope, >> the foul was over here. It's going to be >> the foul was over here. It's going to be >> the foul was over here. It's going to be free kick Ecuador." Um, free kick Ecuador." Um, free kick Ecuador." Um, she got a lot of static over these two she got a lot of static over these two she got a lot of static over these two calls calls calls in this match about all over the in this match about all over the in this match about all over the internet. This woman should not be internet. This woman should not be internet. This woman should not be anywhere near these games. Too high anywhere near these games. Too high anywhere near these games. Too high level, too fast for her. she couldn't level, too fast for her. she couldn't level, too fast for her. she couldn't catch those fouls. Any number of things.

catch those fouls. Any number of things. catch those fouls. Any number of things. Uh personal experience, I will tell you Uh personal experience, I will tell you Uh personal experience, I will tell you if you're doing a match like this, yes, if you're doing a match like this, yes, if you're doing a match like this, yes, mentally you have to be 150% on because mentally you have to be 150% on because mentally you have to be 150% on because the players will test everything the players will test everything the players will test everything everything on you and you're trying your everything on you and you're trying your everything on you and you're trying your hardest to stay focused with the hardest to stay focused with the hardest to stay focused with the screaming and the shouting and the screaming and the shouting and the screaming and the shouting and the gameplay and you're look trying to be as gameplay and you're look trying to be as gameplay and you're look trying to be as unbiased as possible, right? Um what are unbiased as possible, right? Um what are unbiased as possible, right? Um what are your thoughts then on Okay, so she your thoughts then on Okay, so she your thoughts then on Okay, so she missed the foul going up to the buildup. missed the foul going up to the buildup. missed the foul going up to the buildup. Um, and let me add to that. I also have Um, and let me add to that. I also have Um, and let me add to that. I also have noticed that a lot of the assistant noticed that a lot of the assistant noticed that a lot of the assistant referees are not making some of these referees are not making some of these referees are not making some of these calls that are in their area. calls that are in their area. calls that are in their area. What's going What do you think's What's going What do you think's What's going What do you think's happening here? happening here? happening here? >> Well, the refs have comms on. So, just >> Well, the refs have comms on. So, just >> Well, the refs have comms on. So, just because we're not seeing them pop their because we're not seeing them pop their because we're not seeing them pop their flag doesn't mean they're not having flag doesn't mean they're not having flag doesn't mean they're not having conversations. They could be telling, conversations. They could be telling, conversations. They could be telling, "Hey, I have no foul there." Or, "Hey, I "Hey, I have no foul there." Or, "Hey, I "Hey, I have no foul there." Or, "Hey, I have a foul. What do you see?" I mean, have a foul. What do you see?" I mean, have a foul. What do you see?" I mean, that's a conversation your pregame that that's a conversation your pregame that that's a conversation your pregame that you have before. So, I mean, they, my you have before. So, I mean, they, my you have before. So, I mean, they, my dad, who's also a ref, likes to say that dad, who's also a ref, likes to say that dad, who's also a ref, likes to say that why do we have ARs anymore? We don't let why do we have ARs anymore? We don't let why do we have ARs anymore? We don't let let them make any calls. They now have a let them make any calls. They now have a let them make any calls. They now have a watch that tells them when it's offside.

watch that tells them when it's offside. watch that tells them when it's offside. They have V and goal line technology. They have V and goal line technology. They have V and goal line technology. They have out-of- bounds technology, They have out-of- bounds technology, They have out-of- bounds technology, corner kick and goal kick technology. corner kick and goal kick technology. corner kick and goal kick technology. So, what's the point of an AR? Well, So, what's the point of an AR? Well, So, what's the point of an AR? Well, they're there to help manage the game as they're there to help manage the game as they're there to help manage the game as well. They're there as another body to well. They're there as another body to well. They're there as another body to help manage the sidelines, help manage help manage the sidelines, help manage help manage the sidelines, help manage the players on the field. They serve a the players on the field. They serve a the players on the field. They serve a purpose, but just because we don't see purpose, but just because we don't see purpose, but just because we don't see them using their flag, doesn't mean them using their flag, doesn't mean them using their flag, doesn't mean they're not there. they're not there. they're not there. >> Okay. All right. So, what are your >> Okay. All right. So, what are your >> Okay. All right. So, what are your thoughts then on this foul? If she thoughts then on this foul? If she thoughts then on this foul? If she misses it going up to this, misses it going up to this, misses it going up to this, >> referees are always going to miss calls. >> referees are always going to miss calls. >> referees are always going to miss calls. I mean, that's just the nature of the I mean, that's just the nature of the I mean, that's just the nature of the business. Um, that's why the the business. Um, that's why the the business. Um, that's why the the professional leagues have the V um to to professional leagues have the V um to to professional leagues have the V um to to be a another pair of eyes. But, yeah, be a another pair of eyes. But, yeah, be a another pair of eyes. But, yeah, referees are always going to miss a referees are always going to miss a referees are always going to miss a call. Now, as a coach, coaches always call. Now, as a coach, coaches always call. Now, as a coach, coaches always see the fouls that are that are against, see the fouls that are that are against, see the fouls that are that are against, you know, that are on them or against you know, that are on them or against you know, that are on them or against them rather. Yes. them rather. Yes. them rather. Yes. >> Um, you know, but sometimes the referee >> Um, you know, but sometimes the referee >> Um, you know, but sometimes the referee either either either >> considers it not a foul or >> considers it not a foul or >> considers it not a foul or >> they just don't see it because of of >> they just don't see it because of of >> they just don't see it because of of maybe a player goes into her her maybe a player goes into her her maybe a player goes into her her pathway. Um, and you can't see what pathway. Um, and you can't see what pathway. Um, and you can't see what happened because the game is so quick.

happened because the game is so quick. happened because the game is so quick. That's nothing against the referee. It's That's nothing against the referee. It's That's nothing against the referee. It's just that's just the way the play is. just that's just the way the play is. just that's just the way the play is. Um, but Um, but Um, but she looked it she looked it she looked it called it back and made the right call called it back and made the right call called it back and made the right call in the end. in the end. in the end. >> Well, the the initial foul at midfield >> Well, the the initial foul at midfield >> Well, the the initial foul at midfield where Germany won the ball and then went where Germany won the ball and then went where Germany won the ball and then went on the break. You look at it and he on the break. You look at it and he on the break. You look at it and he clips him, but it's it's a soft click. clips him, but it's it's a soft click. clips him, but it's it's a soft click. She probably didn't see it as a foul cuz She probably didn't see it as a foul cuz She probably didn't see it as a foul cuz we're going on and goes around him and we're going on and goes around him and we're going on and goes around him and he does get part of the ball. So, she I he does get part of the ball. So, she I he does get part of the ball. So, she I probably wouldn't call that either, but probably wouldn't call that either, but probably wouldn't call that either, but since it led to a break, which then since it led to a break, which then since it led to a break, which then leads to a penalty, which could be a C leads to a penalty, which could be a C leads to a penalty, which could be a C CMI, which is a critical match moment, CMI, which is a critical match moment, CMI, which is a critical match moment, you have to call the You have to call you have to call the You have to call you have to call the You have to call the foul back since you can see it and the foul back since you can see it and the foul back since you can see it and it builds up to it and not enough time it builds up to it and not enough time it builds up to it and not enough time has passed. Now, the penalty, that's a has passed. Now, the penalty, that's a has passed. Now, the penalty, that's a whole different conversation. I don't whole different conversation. I don't whole different conversation. I don't know if I'd call that one, but know if I'd call that one, but know if I'd call that one, but >> Okay. All right. Um, and back to your >> Okay. All right. Um, and back to your >> Okay. All right. Um, and back to your point then. All right. So, if you're the point then. All right. So, if you're the point then. All right. So, if you're the coach, you've been a coach far longer coach, you've been a coach far longer coach, you've been a coach far longer than referee. Um, than referee. Um, than referee. Um, yes, you grant that they may not have yes, you grant that they may not have yes, you grant that they may not have seen something, but the court sees every seen something, but the court sees every seen something, but the court sees every foul, right? Anything that's against foul, right? Anything that's against foul, right? Anything that's against you, you catch, you see. Um, you, you catch, you see. Um, you, you catch, you see. Um, what do you see now as far as refereeing what do you see now as far as refereeing what do you see now as far as refereeing on the field, on the field, on the field, having your coach's perspective, >> I enjoy when I get yelled at by other >> I enjoy when I get yelled at by other coaches, you know, when when I when I coaches, you know, when when I when I coaches, you know, when when I when I don't make a call because I understand don't make a call because I understand don't make a call because I understand where they're coming from.

where they're coming from. where they're coming from. >> Okay. Um, and yeah, maybe if I'm on the >> Okay. Um, and yeah, maybe if I'm on the >> Okay. Um, and yeah, maybe if I'm on the sideline as a coach, I might think sideline as a coach, I might think sideline as a coach, I might think that's a foul, but now as a as an uh that's a foul, but now as a as an uh that's a foul, but now as a as an uh non-objective referee, non-objective referee, non-objective referee, you know, I don't call it, you know, you know, I don't call it, you know, you know, I don't call it, you know, whatever it is, you know, but I'm as a whatever it is, you know, but I'm as a whatever it is, you know, but I'm as a coach, I'm biased, so I'm every little coach, I'm biased, so I'm every little coach, I'm biased, so I'm every little touch is going to be a foul um and a touch is going to be a foul um and a touch is going to be a foul um and a free kick for my team. But as a referee, free kick for my team. But as a referee, free kick for my team. But as a referee, you got to kind of pick those moments you got to kind of pick those moments you got to kind of pick those moments and and you're a little bit more broad and and you're a little bit more broad and and you're a little bit more broad in those. in those. in those. >> Have you had a coach that reminds you of >> Have you had a coach that reminds you of >> Have you had a coach that reminds you of you? Oh yeah. you? Oh yeah. you? Oh yeah. >> And had to talk to them and explain. >> And had to talk to them and explain. >> And had to talk to them and explain. >> I love it. I love I love going up to >> I love it. I love I love going up to >> I love it. I love I love going up to them and telling them just to calm down them and telling them just to calm down them and telling them just to calm down because I mean I have been told many because I mean I have been told many because I mean I have been told many many times in my 18 years of coaching uh many times in my 18 years of coaching uh many times in my 18 years of coaching uh to calm down. Um I've never got ejected to calm down. Um I've never got ejected to calm down. Um I've never got ejected out of a game uh thankfully um because I out of a game uh thankfully um because I out of a game uh thankfully um because I I know my limits, I know my limits, I know my limits, but I have definitely pushed those but I have definitely pushed those but I have definitely pushed those limits. Um so I give I give coaches some limits. Um so I give I give coaches some limits. Um so I give I give coaches some type of of leeway to a point. But then I type of of leeway to a point. But then I type of of leeway to a point. But then I know from, you know, the the kettle know from, you know, the the kettle know from, you know, the the kettle calling, you know, or the what was the calling, you know, or the what was the calling, you know, or the what was the the saying, calling the kettle black, the saying, calling the kettle black, the saying, calling the kettle black, you know, um you know, um you know, um >> I know what what their limits um are and >> I know what what their limits um are and >> I know what what their limits um are and when they're going to reach and I try to when they're going to reach and I try to when they're going to reach and I try to prevent those from happening before they prevent those from happening before they prevent those from happening before they escalate.

escalate. escalate. >> All right. And a loaded question, if and >> All right. And a loaded question, if and >> All right. And a loaded question, if and I'm sure you have female referees, I'm sure you have female referees, I'm sure you have female referees, right? um any difference in how you feel right? um any difference in how you feel right? um any difference in how you feel about the way they call any difference about the way they call any difference about the way they call any difference in how you act with them against them? in how you act with them against them? in how you act with them against them? Uh as from the coach's perspective, what Uh as from the coach's perspective, what Uh as from the coach's perspective, what are your thoughts? are your thoughts? are your thoughts? >> From a coach perspective, I've had both >> From a coach perspective, I've had both >> From a coach perspective, I've had both female and male referees. Um and there's female and male referees. Um and there's female and male referees. Um and there's no difference from from my point of no difference from from my point of no difference from from my point of view. um always look just like uh when view. um always look just like uh when view. um always look just like uh when when I watch Tiffany ref how how when I watch Tiffany ref how how when I watch Tiffany ref how how assertive females have to be especially assertive females have to be especially assertive females have to be especially when they're refering um male games have when they're refering um male games have when they're refering um male games have to be a little bit more forceful and and to be a little bit more forceful and and to be a little bit more forceful and and um especially with the coaches cuz the um especially with the coaches cuz the um especially with the coaches cuz the coaches tend to try to push their will coaches tend to try to push their will coaches tend to try to push their will on female referees a lot more than male on female referees a lot more than male on female referees a lot more than male referees because they think they can get referees because they think they can get referees because they think they can get away with it. And I've seen the female away with it. And I've seen the female away with it. And I've seen the female referees get a little bit more, you referees get a little bit more, you referees get a little bit more, you know, vocal and stern and I've seen you know, vocal and stern and I've seen you know, vocal and stern and I've seen you personally do that a few times at these personally do that a few times at these personally do that a few times at these tournaments. Um, but as far as them tournaments. Um, but as far as them tournaments. Um, but as far as them calling the game, this it's it's the calling the game, this it's it's the calling the game, this it's it's the same. I mean, I've had there's there's same. I mean, I've had there's there's same. I mean, I've had there's there's it doesn't come down to like a male or it doesn't come down to like a male or it doesn't come down to like a male or female referee. It comes down to a bad female referee. It comes down to a bad female referee. It comes down to a bad referee and a good referee. You know, referee and a good referee. You know, referee and a good referee. You know, that that's what it comes down to.

that that's what it comes down to. that that's what it comes down to. >> Yeah. Now, I know you've had one or two >> Yeah. Now, I know you've had one or two >> Yeah. Now, I know you've had one or two experiences with coaches that don't, you experiences with coaches that don't, you experiences with coaches that don't, you know, stay in their lane, so to speak. know, stay in their lane, so to speak. know, stay in their lane, so to speak. Um, Um, Um, one of the things that that I love one of the things that that I love one of the things that that I love watching about you refer as a young lady watching about you refer as a young lady watching about you refer as a young lady is yes, you have to handle yourself very is yes, you have to handle yourself very is yes, you have to handle yourself very well. Uh, with these guys, some of them well. Uh, with these guys, some of them well. Uh, with these guys, some of them go way over the top. Um, go way over the top. Um, go way over the top. Um, I think uh, I think uh, I think uh, you do have to be sterner and sometimes you do have to be sterner and sometimes you do have to be sterner and sometimes that comes across as, oh, she's just that comes across as, oh, she's just that comes across as, oh, she's just being being being >> sensitive. >> sensitive. >> sensitive. >> Yeah. Sensitive. Oh, look at her. She's >> Yeah. Sensitive. Oh, look at her. She's >> Yeah. Sensitive. Oh, look at her. She's so sensitive. causing drama. I think she so sensitive. causing drama. I think she so sensitive. causing drama. I think she causes too much drama. And I'm like, are causes too much drama. And I'm like, are causes too much drama. And I'm like, are you watching the same game? Uh I And I'm you watching the same game? Uh I And I'm you watching the same game? Uh I And I'm not going to reveal who, but even at not going to reveal who, but even at not going to reveal who, but even at some of the recent games we've done, uh some of the recent games we've done, uh some of the recent games we've done, uh that we had anything out of control, that we had anything out of control, that we had anything out of control, people saying she can be a little people saying she can be a little people saying she can be a little dramatic, huh? Are you watching the same dramatic, huh? Are you watching the same dramatic, huh? Are you watching the same game? I'm like, look at the guy. Look at game? I'm like, look at the guy. Look at game? I'm like, look at the guy. Look at what he's doing. Look at how he's what he's doing. Look at how he's what he's doing. Look at how he's reacting. Look at the crowd. Think about reacting. Look at the crowd. Think about reacting. Look at the crowd. Think about that. No, no, no. I I I wouldn't have.

that. No, no, no. I I I wouldn't have. that. No, no, no. I I I wouldn't have. Whatever you would or would not have Whatever you would or would not have Whatever you would or would not have done doesn't matter. You're not on the done doesn't matter. You're not on the done doesn't matter. You're not on the field, field, field, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> So, what has been your experience as >> So, what has been your experience as >> So, what has been your experience as you've come through this referee journey you've come through this referee journey you've come through this referee journey um with how you deal with this? um with how you deal with this? um with how you deal with this? >> Um >> Um >> Um some games are worse than others. Uh I some games are worse than others. Uh I some games are worse than others. Uh I can usually control I love doing those can usually control I love doing those can usually control I love doing those games more than women and I can usually games more than women and I can usually games more than women and I can usually control them, but they can get out of control them, but they can get out of control them, but they can get out of control real quick, especially being a control real quick, especially being a control real quick, especially being a female referee. Um, I don't want to use female referee. Um, I don't want to use female referee. Um, I don't want to use my cards, but sometimes you have to just my cards, but sometimes you have to just my cards, but sometimes you have to just to game manage that. Uh, the coaches to game manage that. Uh, the coaches to game manage that. Uh, the coaches aren't so bad. They just they're they're aren't so bad. They just they're they're aren't so bad. They just they're they're going to be that coach that's going to going to be that coach that's going to going to be that coach that's going to be like that with anybody. It's the be like that with anybody. It's the be like that with anybody. It's the players that are a little bit more players that are a little bit more players that are a little bit more having to control. But I have found even having to control. But I have found even having to control. But I have found even though that game has been maybe a little though that game has been maybe a little though that game has been maybe a little out of control or it gets a little out of control or it gets a little out of control or it gets a little testy, if I do that team or those kids testy, if I do that team or those kids testy, if I do that team or those kids again later on, they know who I am and again later on, they know who I am and again later on, they know who I am and they know how I ref. And so I get that they know how I ref. And so I get that they know how I ref. And so I get that respect for the next game. So it may respect for the next game. So it may respect for the next game. So it may come off as drama to begin with, but come off as drama to begin with, but come off as drama to begin with, but they respect it. They understand it.

they respect it. They understand it. they respect it. They understand it. They understand I have a job to do. They They understand I have a job to do. They They understand I have a job to do. They have a job to do. And they understand I have a job to do. And they understand I have a job to do. And they understand I know what I'm doing. I just have to do know what I'm doing. I just have to do know what I'm doing. I just have to do it a little bit more harsh sometimes. it a little bit more harsh sometimes. it a little bit more harsh sometimes. Make sense? I I've had a couple of other Make sense? I I've had a couple of other Make sense? I I've had a couple of other young lady referees that joined us young lady referees that joined us young lady referees that joined us recently that recently that recently that commented on your performance out there commented on your performance out there commented on your performance out there and they said, "Oh my gosh, she's so and they said, "Oh my gosh, she's so and they said, "Oh my gosh, she's so confident. How does she handle that? I confident. How does she handle that? I confident. How does she handle that? I want to do that." All right. I'm like, want to do that." All right. I'm like, want to do that." All right. I'm like, "Cool. I think that's a good thing." Um, "Cool. I think that's a good thing." Um, "Cool. I think that's a good thing." Um, moving on then from that, did you see moving on then from that, did you see moving on then from that, did you see any have you seen any difference in the any have you seen any difference in the any have you seen any difference in the World Cup where we can say, "Oh, the World Cup where we can say, "Oh, the World Cup where we can say, "Oh, the male referees are just that much better male referees are just that much better male referees are just that much better than a female referee?" than a female referee?" than a female referee?" >> No, not at all. I mean, the the the >> No, not at all. I mean, the the the >> No, not at all. I mean, the the the quickness of the game doesn't quickness of the game doesn't quickness of the game doesn't it doesn't matter if you're male or it doesn't matter if you're male or it doesn't matter if you're male or female. I mean, they're they have eyes. female. I mean, they're they have eyes. female. I mean, they're they have eyes. They're seeing the the the same game. Um They're seeing the the the same game. Um They're seeing the the the same game. Um it's just their interpretation of what a it's just their interpretation of what a it's just their interpretation of what a foul is and and it that comes down to foul is and and it that comes down to foul is and and it that comes down to each individual referee. each individual referee. each individual referee. >> So yeah, perfect. Yeah. Exactly.

>> So yeah, perfect. Yeah. Exactly. >> So yeah, perfect. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. I'm there. Um I think you said Exactly. I'm there. Um I think you said Exactly. I'm there. Um I think you said earlier we're getting different referees earlier we're getting different referees earlier we're getting different referees from different countries. from different countries. from different countries. >> Um I think we commented ear earlier that >> Um I think we commented ear earlier that >> Um I think we commented ear earlier that the other gentleman, the American the other gentleman, the American the other gentleman, the American referee is Yeah. referee is Yeah. referee is Yeah. >> Yeah. He seems to have an elevated level >> Yeah. He seems to have an elevated level >> Yeah. He seems to have an elevated level of play on play on this. Even I can't of play on play on this. Even I can't of play on play on this. Even I can't match that. And and and I've I've been a match that. And and and I've I've been a match that. And and and I've I've been a referee at AR for a team. I remember referee at AR for a team. I remember referee at AR for a team. I remember this clearly in San Antonio. The referee this clearly in San Antonio. The referee this clearly in San Antonio. The referee comes over and he's got this kind of comes over and he's got this kind of comes over and he's got this kind of chest out puffy thing going. Hey, let me chest out puffy thing going. Hey, let me chest out puffy thing going. Hey, let me make the calls. Let them play. And I'm make the calls. Let them play. And I'm make the calls. Let them play. And I'm like, okay. So, it got out of control. like, okay. So, it got out of control. like, okay. So, it got out of control. he wouldn't let me call anything as far he wouldn't let me call anything as far he wouldn't let me call anything as far as the the the fouls and he just said, as the the the fouls and he just said, as the the the fouls and he just said, "Oh, it's okay. I got this. I got this." "Oh, it's okay. I got this. I got this." "Oh, it's okay. I got this. I got this." So, very interesting. Um, beyond that, So, very interesting. Um, beyond that, So, very interesting. Um, beyond that, it's an interesting experience to see uh it's an interesting experience to see uh it's an interesting experience to see uh all these people um for all these people um for all these people um for from around the world doing this. So, from around the world doing this. So, from around the world doing this. So, I think we're going to have some fun I think we're going to have some fun I think we're going to have some fun with this. One more thing we're going to with this. One more thing we're going to with this. One more thing we're going to talk about, but let's chat about No.

talk about, but let's chat about No. talk about, but let's chat about No. All right, not a problem. So, let's go All right, not a problem. So, let's go All right, not a problem. So, let's go with with with let's go with then back to our final let's go with then back to our final let's go with then back to our final topic today. We're just going to talk topic today. We're just going to talk topic today. We're just going to talk Spain. All right. Last night, Spain and Spain. All right. Last night, Spain and Spain. All right. Last night, Spain and Uruguay. Urguay I one of the strongest Uruguay. Urguay I one of the strongest Uruguay. Urguay I one of the strongest teams in the World Cup for years. They teams in the World Cup for years. They teams in the World Cup for years. They came in and they're just not able to do came in and they're just not able to do came in and they're just not able to do much. This is where young team Spain much. This is where young team Spain much. This is where young team Spain actually was able to take advantage of actually was able to take advantage of actually was able to take advantage of them. Um but as I was mentioning, the them. Um but as I was mentioning, the them. Um but as I was mentioning, the American referee was starting to let too American referee was starting to let too American referee was starting to let too much go. Once you let one thing go, much go. Once you let one thing go, much go. Once you let one thing go, another thing happens and another thing. another thing happens and another thing. another thing happens and another thing. Correct? Correct? Correct? >> And then the frustration begins, right? >> And then the frustration begins, right? >> And then the frustration begins, right? And as you and I have seen many times, And as you and I have seen many times, And as you and I have seen many times, once it gets to that, the stupid comes once it gets to that, the stupid comes once it gets to that, the stupid comes up. It It doesn't matter what it is, up. It It doesn't matter what it is, up. It It doesn't matter what it is, there's going to be something silly there's going to be something silly there's going to be something silly done. Somebody's going to go, "Hey." And done. Somebody's going to go, "Hey." And done. Somebody's going to go, "Hey." And the guy's going to grab his face, turn the guy's going to grab his face, turn the guy's going to grab his face, turn around, everyone's going to scream at around, everyone's going to scream at around, everyone's going to scream at you that he just got punched, and it's you that he just got punched, and it's you that he just got punched, and it's just going to go insane, right? And when just going to go insane, right? And when just going to go insane, right? And when that happens, you either try to get that happens, you either try to get that happens, you either try to get control back and try to be on your game control back and try to be on your game control back and try to be on your game or you just let it keep breaking down.

or you just let it keep breaking down. or you just let it keep breaking down. So Uruguay at the end was really getting So Uruguay at the end was really getting So Uruguay at the end was really getting heavy on the fouls. They got really heavy on the fouls. They got really heavy on the fouls. They got really really careless and got really nasty to really careless and got really nasty to really careless and got really nasty to the point where was Augustine Kenobio the point where was Augustine Kenobio the point where was Augustine Kenobio for Uruguay runs in full speed slide for Uruguay runs in full speed slide for Uruguay runs in full speed slide tries to slide tackle the Spanish player tries to slide tackle the Spanish player tries to slide tackle the Spanish player misses but he's got those cleats way up. misses but he's got those cleats way up. misses but he's got those cleats way up. misses him the first time but hooks him misses him the first time but hooks him misses him the first time but hooks him on the return. on the return. on the return. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> the kid rightly so goes, "Oh, no and >> the kid rightly so goes, "Oh, no and >> the kid rightly so goes, "Oh, no and draws a red card right into it." Right. draws a red card right into it." Right. draws a red card right into it." Right. Um, what are your thoughts on that? Um, what are your thoughts on that? Um, what are your thoughts on that? Well, I think that particular player, he Well, I think that particular player, he Well, I think that particular player, he was already upset with with the playons was already upset with with the playons was already upset with with the playons and there was an actual time when they and there was an actual time when they and there was an actual time when they had a free kick, I think it was in the had a free kick, I think it was in the had a free kick, I think it was in the first half that the referee did call a a first half that the referee did call a a first half that the referee did call a a foul um for uh Uruguay against Spain on foul um for uh Uruguay against Spain on foul um for uh Uruguay against Spain on that same player that got re and he's that same player that got re and he's that same player that got re and he's yelling and arguing with the referee, yelling and arguing with the referee, yelling and arguing with the referee, but he got the free kick. But, you know, but he got the free kick. But, you know, but he got the free kick. But, you know, the the tensions were already there. Um, the the tensions were already there. Um, the the tensions were already there. Um, and I think that just it just builds up and I think that just it just builds up and I think that just it just builds up and builds up and builds up and and I and builds up and builds up and and I and builds up and builds up and and I know from a as a player when I would be know from a as a player when I would be know from a as a player when I would be getting fouled and the referee's not getting fouled and the referee's not getting fouled and the referee's not calling it, I would go up to the referee calling it, I would go up to the referee calling it, I would go up to the referee and say, "Hey, can you watch so and so?

and say, "Hey, can you watch so and so? and say, "Hey, can you watch so and so? He's grabbing my jersey. He's doing He's grabbing my jersey. He's doing He's grabbing my jersey. He's doing this. He's doing this." this. He's doing this." this. He's doing this." >> And if the referee's not calling it, >> And if the referee's not calling it, >> And if the referee's not calling it, then as a player, you start taking then as a player, you start taking then as a player, you start taking matters into your own hands. And then matters into your own hands. And then matters into your own hands. And then that's when it starts getting out of that's when it starts getting out of that's when it starts getting out of control. Um, and then you're, you know, control. Um, and then you're, you know, control. Um, and then you're, you know, at that point, the way I I used to think at that point, the way I I used to think at that point, the way I I used to think if the referee's not going to protect if the referee's not going to protect if the referee's not going to protect me, I'm gonna protect me. me, I'm gonna protect me. me, I'm gonna protect me. >> So, game management being an issue. >> So, game management being an issue. >> So, game management being an issue. >> What are your thoughts on >> What are your thoughts on >> What are your thoughts on >> Well, I mean, he didn't he let a lot of >> Well, I mean, he didn't he let a lot of >> Well, I mean, he didn't he let a lot of stuff go, but he was consistent with it. stuff go, but he was consistent with it. stuff go, but he was consistent with it. So, at least that's that's what we ask So, at least that's that's what we ask So, at least that's that's what we ask of Russ is be consistent. Whether you're of Russ is be consistent. Whether you're of Russ is be consistent. Whether you're consistently not calling it, consistently not calling it, consistently not calling it, consistently calling it, be consistent consistently calling it, be consistent consistently calling it, be consistent on both sides. However, he should know on both sides. However, he should know on both sides. However, he should know going in that Uruguay has to win. the going in that Uruguay has to win. the going in that Uruguay has to win. the tension's going to be up from the very tension's going to be up from the very tension's going to be up from the very beginning. Spain probably's going to win beginning. Spain probably's going to win beginning. Spain probably's going to win the game, win the the group, but they the game, win the the group, but they the game, win the the group, but they need the win or a tie. They can't lose. need the win or a tie. They can't lose. need the win or a tie. They can't lose. So, you're away otherwise they have a So, you're away otherwise they have a So, you're away otherwise they have a chance to drop down. So, knowing that chance to drop down. So, knowing that chance to drop down. So, knowing that tension is already going to be there tension is already going to be there tension is already going to be there from the very beginning of the game, I from the very beginning of the game, I from the very beginning of the game, I probably wouldn't have let so much go. I probably wouldn't have let so much go. I probably wouldn't have let so much go. I probably would have caught it a little probably would have caught it a little probably would have caught it a little bit tighter to alleviate some of that bit tighter to alleviate some of that bit tighter to alleviate some of that tension. And at the end, the breakaway tension. And at the end, the breakaway tension. And at the end, the breakaway that the left winger had on that first that the left winger had on that first that the left winger had on that first yellow and then two minutes later when yellow and then two minutes later when yellow and then two minutes later when he leaves his feet and cleats up, diving he leaves his feet and cleats up, diving he leaves his feet and cleats up, diving right into the knee, even though he right into the knee, even though he right into the knee, even though he missed and there was no force, it met missed and there was no force, it met missed and there was no force, it met everything else for for serious foul everything else for for serious foul everything else for for serious foul play. Yeah, I absolutely agree with the play. Yeah, I absolutely agree with the play. Yeah, I absolutely agree with the red card there.

red card there. red card there. >> I've had instances where I I I I don't >> I've had instances where I I I I don't >> I've had instances where I I I I don't make the calls and I just give the make the calls and I just give the make the calls and I just give the advantage and yeah, you're right. At advantage and yeah, you're right. At advantage and yeah, you're right. At some point, the player goes, "All right, some point, the player goes, "All right, some point, the player goes, "All right, you're not going to do anything. I'm you're not going to do anything. I'm you're not going to do anything. I'm going to do it." And that I'm going to going to do it." And that I'm going to going to do it." And that I'm going to do it turns into a whole lot of variety. do it turns into a whole lot of variety. do it turns into a whole lot of variety. Real interesting stuff. Um, one question Real interesting stuff. Um, one question Real interesting stuff. Um, one question I have uh for all that is I have uh for all that is I have uh for all that is why are we not going back and let's say why are we not going back and let's say why are we not going back and let's say play on, but I saw number 10 took quite play on, but I saw number 10 took quite play on, but I saw number 10 took quite the swipe at Brian here and I'm going to the swipe at Brian here and I'm going to the swipe at Brian here and I'm going to go okay number 10 play on boom finish. go okay number 10 play on boom finish. go okay number 10 play on boom finish. Come back 10 get over here and a card. Come back 10 get over here and a card. Come back 10 get over here and a card. At what level does that not happen At what level does that not happen At what level does that not happen anymore? Well, so if you play the anymore? Well, so if you play the anymore? Well, so if you play the advantage and you don't have a reckless advantage and you don't have a reckless advantage and you don't have a reckless foul, foul, foul, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> You just have a careless foul, but you >> You just have a careless foul, but you >> You just have a careless foul, but you play the advantage, you're not coming play the advantage, you're not coming play the advantage, you're not coming back and giving a yellow. back and giving a yellow. back and giving a yellow. >> It has to be a reckless foul. So that's >> It has to be a reckless foul. So that's >> It has to be a reckless foul. So that's why he doesn't come back because you're why he doesn't come back because you're why he doesn't come back because you're not going to double jeopardy. You play not going to double jeopardy. You play not going to double jeopardy. You play the advantage and let him go on. the advantage and let him go on. the advantage and let him go on. >> However, you've seen it a couple of >> However, you've seen it a couple of >> However, you've seen it a couple of times where they do come back. Tori times where they do come back. Tori times where they do come back. Tori actually had one in her first game where actually had one in her first game where actually had one in her first game where she came back and gave a yellow card to she came back and gave a yellow card to she came back and gave a yellow card to uh the South African player for a uh the South African player for a uh the South African player for a reckless tackle where she played the reckless tackle where she played the reckless tackle where she played the advantage. They didn't score anything, advantage. They didn't score anything, advantage. They didn't score anything, but it came back. I think they got a but it came back. I think they got a but it came back. I think they got a throw afterwards or something, but came throw afterwards or something, but came throw afterwards or something, but came back and then gave a card. He's like, back and then gave a card. He's like, back and then gave a card. He's like, "For what?" And she points and lets them "For what?" And she points and lets them "For what?" And she points and lets them know. And this is where we have to be know. And this is where we have to be know. And this is where we have to be more conversational with the players.

more conversational with the players. more conversational with the players. Letting them know, "Hey, I saw the Letting them know, "Hey, I saw the Letting them know, "Hey, I saw the advantage." Or be loud with your advantage." Or be loud with your advantage." Or be loud with your advantage. Don't just point. They're not advantage. Don't just point. They're not advantage. Don't just point. They're not looking at your arms. We need to let looking at your arms. We need to let looking at your arms. We need to let them know advantage play on or come back them know advantage play on or come back them know advantage play on or come back like, "Hey, I had your foul there, but I like, "Hey, I had your foul there, but I like, "Hey, I had your foul there, but I gave you advantage." I do that a lot in gave you advantage." I do that a lot in gave you advantage." I do that a lot in my games. That way the players know, I my games. That way the players know, I my games. That way the players know, I see your foul. That way they that see your foul. That way they that see your foul. That way they that frustration's a little minimized. Okay, frustration's a little minimized. Okay, frustration's a little minimized. Okay, you saw my foul, but you gave it to me. you saw my foul, but you gave it to me. you saw my foul, but you gave it to me. Perfect. Let's go. Perfect. Let's go. Perfect. Let's go. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, >> So, >> So, >> yeah. And as a player and a coach, I >> yeah. And as a player and a coach, I >> yeah. And as a player and a coach, I appreciate when the referees talk a appreciate when the referees talk a appreciate when the referees talk a little bit more and give a little bit little bit more and give a little bit little bit more and give a little bit more feedback. Even if they're not more feedback. Even if they're not more feedback. Even if they're not calling fouls, they're they're still calling fouls, they're they're still calling fouls, they're they're still saying things like, you know, hey, I saw saying things like, you know, hey, I saw saying things like, you know, hey, I saw that um play on. No foul there. What? that um play on. No foul there. What? that um play on. No foul there. What? Because that kind of tells me that Because that kind of tells me that Because that kind of tells me that they're they're looking, they're they're they're looking, they're they're they're looking, they're watching the game. And same thing I do watching the game. And same thing I do watching the game. And same thing I do as a referee, I try to be as vocal as I as a referee, I try to be as vocal as I as a referee, I try to be as vocal as I can. You know, if I think there's a can. You know, if I think there's a can. You know, if I think there's a handball, I'll, you know, no, no, no, handball, I'll, you know, no, no, no, handball, I'll, you know, no, no, no, it's not a handball. Keep playing. But it's not a handball. Keep playing. But it's not a handball. Keep playing. But to your your point, Art, if if I see a to your your point, Art, if if I see a to your your point, Art, if if I see a player that's kind of lunging a few player that's kind of lunging a few player that's kind of lunging a few times, but they're not actually fouling, times, but they're not actually fouling, times, but they're not actually fouling, but you know, they've done it two or but you know, they've done it two or but you know, they've done it two or three times after the play is over, I'll three times after the play is over, I'll three times after the play is over, I'll go and talk to them like, "Hey, you need go and talk to them like, "Hey, you need go and talk to them like, "Hey, you need to watch those lunges because you're to watch those lunges because you're to watch those lunges because you're very close to getting a foul. So, just very close to getting a foul. So, just very close to getting a foul. So, just be be mindful of those."

be be mindful of those." be be mindful of those." >> Cool. >> Cool. >> Cool. >> Especially being grassroots. I mean this >> Especially being grassroots. I mean this >> Especially being grassroots. I mean this it's not World Cup but for us that are it's not World Cup but for us that are it's not World Cup but for us that are grassroots or we even if we do some of grassroots or we even if we do some of grassroots or we even if we do some of these top MLS next or ECNL tournaments these top MLS next or ECNL tournaments these top MLS next or ECNL tournaments we still need to teach some of these we still need to teach some of these we still need to teach some of these kids some of these things or they're may kids some of these things or they're may kids some of these things or they're may get away with it here but hey we're not get away with it here but hey we're not get away with it here but hey we're not going to do it in this game and let them going to do it in this game and let them going to do it in this game and let them know this is what the law is. That way know this is what the law is. That way know this is what the law is. That way they know we're not supposed to be slide they know we're not supposed to be slide they know we're not supposed to be slide tackling cleats up. I don't care if you tackling cleats up. I don't care if you tackling cleats up. I don't care if you got the ball. It's dangerous. We're got the ball. It's dangerous. We're got the ball. It's dangerous. We're going to come out with it. Let's go. going to come out with it. Let's go. going to come out with it. Let's go. >> A lot of good stuff today guys. A lot of >> A lot of good stuff today guys. A lot of >> A lot of good stuff today guys. A lot of good stuff today. Well that's pretty good stuff today. Well that's pretty good stuff today. Well that's pretty much all we got today. much all we got today. much all we got today. It's been a whole lot of fun. Who's your It's been a whole lot of fun. Who's your It's been a whole lot of fun. Who's your favorite for the World Cup? Who Who you favorite for the World Cup? Who Who you favorite for the World Cup? Who Who you got winning the whole thing? got winning the whole thing? got winning the whole thing? >> I'm still Okay, you probably think I'm >> I'm still Okay, you probably think I'm >> I'm still Okay, you probably think I'm crazy. I'm still going to pick England. crazy. I'm still going to pick England. crazy. I'm still going to pick England. I'm still going with England. I think I'm still going with England. I think I'm still going with England. I think they'll figure out. Hopefully Tul does they'll figure out. Hopefully Tul does they'll figure out. Hopefully Tul does something some magic and and you know, something some magic and and you know, something some magic and and you know, but I know now they're long shots, but but I know now they're long shots, but but I know now they're long shots, but I'm going to stick with my original I'm going to stick with my original I'm going to stick with my original pick. pick. pick. >> All right. So, he's got England. He's >> All right. So, he's got England. He's >> All right. So, he's got England. He's sticking to it. All right, man. sticking to it. All right, man. sticking to it. All right, man. >> Well, the best part about the knockout >> Well, the best part about the knockout >> Well, the best part about the knockout rounds is it all starts over. You start rounds is it all starts over. You start rounds is it all starts over. You start with you start with the clean slate. So with you start with the clean slate. So with you start with the clean slate. So maybe you didn't play well here. Maybe maybe you didn't play well here. Maybe maybe you didn't play well here. Maybe you were saving it. Maybe some of your you were saving it. Maybe some of your you were saving it. Maybe some of your players sat. Let's see. But I have players sat. Let's see. But I have players sat. Let's see. But I have France. I don't think anybody can match France. I don't think anybody can match France. I don't think anybody can match up with them right now. I could be up with them right now. I could be up with them right now. I could be wrong. You never know. Somebody could wrong. You never know. Somebody could wrong. You never know. Somebody could sit back in in Japan or Netherlands. I sit back in in Japan or Netherlands. I sit back in in Japan or Netherlands. I think if I think it's the quarterfinals think if I think it's the quarterfinals think if I think it's the quarterfinals that France and the Netherlands will that France and the Netherlands will that France and the Netherlands will match up, I think so.

match up, I think so. match up, I think so. >> That's probably going to be a great >> That's probably going to be a great >> That's probably going to be a great game. game. game. >> It's going to be a lot of fun, guys. Uh >> It's going to be a lot of fun, guys. Uh >> It's going to be a lot of fun, guys. Uh yeah, everyone knows I've got Spain in yeah, everyone knows I've got Spain in yeah, everyone knows I've got Spain in my back pocket, but my back pocket, but my back pocket, but Argentina for the for the two-time World Argentina for the for the two-time World Argentina for the for the two-time World Cup. And as I said at the very Cup. And as I said at the very Cup. And as I said at the very beginning, that's when that stolen FIFA beginning, that's when that stolen FIFA beginning, that's when that stolen FIFA trophy is going to appear to Leo Messi trophy is going to appear to Leo Messi trophy is going to appear to Leo Messi as he's crowned the greatest player of as he's crowned the greatest player of as he's crowned the greatest player of all time for having back-to-back World all time for having back-to-back World all time for having back-to-back World Cups. That's just me. That is my wish, Cups. That's just me. That is my wish, Cups. That's just me. That is my wish, my fantasy, cuz it is Coach Unfiltered. my fantasy, cuz it is Coach Unfiltered. my fantasy, cuz it is Coach Unfiltered. All right, guys. Thank you very much. All right, guys. Thank you very much. All right, guys. Thank you very much. Coach Brian, thank you very much for Coach Brian, thank you very much for Coach Brian, thank you very much for being here. being here. being here. >> Thank you, >> Thank you, >> Thank you, >> Coach Tiffany. Thank you very much for >> Coach Tiffany. Thank you very much for >> Coach Tiffany. Thank you very much for being here. I think it was a great show being here. I think it was a great show being here. I think it was a great show today. Look forward to having you guys today. Look forward to having you guys today. Look forward to having you guys back some point. Absolutely. Right. back some point. Absolutely. Right. back some point. Absolutely. Right. Enjoy the World Cup out there. And from Enjoy the World Cup out there. And from Enjoy the World Cup out there. And from all of us here, thank you very much. You all of us here, thank you very much. You all of us here, thank you very much. You ready? Oh, let's go get it. Bye-bye. ready? Oh, let's go get it. Bye-bye. ready? Oh, let's go get it. Bye-bye. >> USA.