The Yes JJ Show: E2

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action. >> Hello everyone. Thank you so much for >> Hello everyone. Thank you so much for >> Hello everyone. Thank you so much for being back. My name is Yennia with the being back. My name is Yennia with the being back. My name is Yennia with the YesJ show and I'm so proud to announce YesJ show and I'm so proud to announce YesJ show and I'm so proud to announce my two special guests today. Let's get my two special guests today. Let's get my two special guests today. Let's get into it. Thank you so much. [laughter] into it. Thank you so much. [laughter] into it. Thank you so much. [laughter] Thank you so much. Uh we have Chenise Thank you so much. Uh we have Chenise Thank you so much. Uh we have Chenise Flags today and we also have Totally Flags today and we also have Totally Flags today and we also have Totally Randy. Two mamas that are great uh Randy. Two mamas that are great uh Randy. Two mamas that are great uh mothers and have great um very very mothers and have great um very very mothers and have great um very very important stories here. Please let's get important stories here. Please let's get important stories here. Please let's get into it. Um so Miss Chenise um we are uh into it. Um so Miss Chenise um we are uh into it. Um so Miss Chenise um we are uh going to just kind of have a going to just kind of have a going to just kind of have a conversation all three of us. Um we conversation all three of us. Um we conversation all three of us. Um we anybody that would like to answer can anybody that would like to answer can anybody that would like to answer can answer. Sure. answer. Sure. answer. Sure. >> Um but we are talking about motherhood. >> Um but we are talking about motherhood. >> Um but we are talking about motherhood. Um I would love to for you to kind of Um I would love to for you to kind of Um I would love to for you to kind of just share a little bit about your your just share a little bit about your your just share a little bit about your your motherhood journey and your delivery as motherhood journey and your delivery as motherhood journey and your delivery as well um with us just so we could kind of well um with us just so we could kind of well um with us just so we could kind of get a little bit of background um about get a little bit of background um about get a little bit of background um about you. you. you. >> Okay. So I have three kids. Um my oldest >> Okay. So I have three kids. Um my oldest >> Okay. So I have three kids. Um my oldest is 10, nine, and then I just had a baby is 10, nine, and then I just had a baby is 10, nine, and then I just had a baby out here in Harris County at Bentop out here in Harris County at Bentop out here in Harris County at Bentop Hospital. Hospital. Hospital. >> Congratulations. >> Congratulations. >> Congratulations. >> Thank you. [laughter] >> Thank you. [laughter] >> Thank you. [laughter] >> She's now just turned six months. Um, so >> She's now just turned six months. Um, so >> She's now just turned six months. Um, so I think we all know how Harris County is I think we all know how Harris County is I think we all know how Harris County is with black maternal health. Um, I just with black maternal health. Um, I just with black maternal health. Um, I just wasn't expecting it because yes, I do wasn't expecting it because yes, I do wasn't expecting it because yes, I do have a great job. I'm I'm college have a great job. I'm I'm college have a great job. I'm I'm college educated. You know, I didn't know that educated. You know, I didn't know that educated. You know, I didn't know that certain hospitals are county hospitals certain hospitals are county hospitals certain hospitals are county hospitals or, you know, service certain things or or, you know, service certain things or or, you know, service certain things or better at certain things. So I just had better at certain things. So I just had better at certain things. So I just had a very horrible experience at Bentop a very horrible experience at Bentop a very horrible experience at Bentop Hospital and you know I wish somebody Hospital and you know I wish somebody Hospital and you know I wish somebody would have told me not to go there or to

would have told me not to go there or to would have told me not to go there or to you know look up doctors beforehand or you know look up doctors beforehand or you know look up doctors beforehand or you know have a birthing plan with a you know have a birthing plan with a you know have a birthing plan with a certain hospital but coming from certain hospital but coming from certain hospital but coming from California I didn't have any problems California I didn't have any problems California I didn't have any problems whatsoever. So you know during that time whatsoever. So you know during that time whatsoever. So you know during that time I developed a collapsed lung. I had se I I developed a collapsed lung. I had se I I developed a collapsed lung. I had se I was septic fever was like 103 heart rate was septic fever was like 103 heart rate was septic fever was like 103 heart rate over 130 140 and then to be completely over 130 140 and then to be completely over 130 140 and then to be completely ignored about my pain about what I was ignored about my pain about what I was ignored about my pain about what I was facing in that hospital in that bed is I facing in that hospital in that bed is I facing in that hospital in that bed is I think that's the most frustrating part think that's the most frustrating part think that's the most frustrating part about the whole experience is that most about the whole experience is that most about the whole experience is that most of the stuff could have been avoided if of the stuff could have been avoided if of the stuff could have been avoided if they would have just listened to they would have just listened to they would have just listened to listened to me. listened to me. listened to me. >> It was preventable. You know it was >> It was preventable. You know it was >> It was preventable. You know it was preventable. It was preventable, preventable. It was preventable, preventable. It was preventable, >> you know, and then they come with e. >> you know, and then they come with e. >> you know, and then they come with e. It's an emergency C-section. It's always It's an emergency C-section. It's always It's an emergency C-section. It's always an emergency. an emergency. an emergency. >> It is. Yeah. >> It is. Yeah. >> It is. Yeah. >> You know what I mean? They push fear to >> You know what I mean? They push fear to >> You know what I mean? They push fear to like, oh, your baby's heart rate's like, oh, your baby's heart rate's like, oh, your baby's heart rate's dropping. They've literally said that dropping. They've literally said that dropping. They've literally said that about all three of my kids. about all three of my kids. about all three of my kids. >> So, is it me or or is it you? >> So, is it me or or is it you? >> So, is it me or or is it you? >> Exactly. I had a similar experience >> Exactly. I had a similar experience >> Exactly. I had a similar experience where the belly band was kept falling where the belly band was kept falling where the belly band was kept falling off.

off. off. >> It kept falling off and it kept falling >> It kept falling off and it kept falling >> It kept falling off and it kept falling off and they kept telling me, "Oh, we off and they kept telling me, "Oh, we off and they kept telling me, "Oh, we need to cut you up and C-section. Hurry, need to cut you up and C-section. Hurry, need to cut you up and C-section. Hurry, rush, rush, rush." And with all within rush, rush, rush." And with all within rush, rush, rush." And with all within all that rushing, I was like, "No, I I all that rushing, I was like, "No, I I all that rushing, I was like, "No, I I don't want a C-section." You know, I I don't want a C-section." You know, I I don't want a C-section." You know, I I want to have my baby natural, like where want to have my baby natural, like where want to have my baby natural, like where his heart rate is fine. The the the his heart rate is fine. The the the his heart rate is fine. The the the belly band just fell. You know, there's belly band just fell. You know, there's belly band just fell. You know, there's little technical things that happen as little technical things that happen as little technical things that happen as well that they don't consider well that they don't consider well that they don't consider >> and it's Yeah, I I truly understand. And >> and it's Yeah, I I truly understand. And >> and it's Yeah, I I truly understand. And so, what happened after after the so, what happened after after the so, what happened after after the >> So, after the delivery, um I went home >> So, after the delivery, um I went home >> So, after the delivery, um I went home and well, I had to stay in the hospital and well, I had to stay in the hospital and well, I had to stay in the hospital for 7 days. Okay. So, normally after a for 7 days. Okay. So, normally after a for 7 days. Okay. So, normally after a C-section, you're getting up, you're C-section, you're getting up, you're C-section, you're getting up, you're walking. walking. walking. >> I couldn't walk for like the first 3 or >> I couldn't walk for like the first 3 or >> I couldn't walk for like the first 3 or 4 days. They weren't feeding me the only 4 days. They weren't feeding me the only 4 days. They weren't feeding me the only water liquid diet. water liquid diet. water liquid diet. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> So, for like 5 days, I'm on a water >> So, for like 5 days, I'm on a water >> So, for like 5 days, I'm on a water liquid diet. And liquid diet. And liquid diet. And >> did they tell you why? >> did they tell you why? >> did they tell you why? >> Um, just because they wanted to see >> Um, just because they wanted to see >> Um, just because they wanted to see about the infection or, you know, what about the infection or, you know, what about the infection or, you know, what whatever reasons they gave it was like, whatever reasons they gave it was like, whatever reasons they gave it was like, "Oh, we just need to make sure that "Oh, we just need to make sure that "Oh, we just need to make sure that you're okay. So, you need to be passing you're okay. So, you need to be passing you're okay. So, you need to be passing gas, making bowel movements." I'm like, gas, making bowel movements." I'm like, gas, making bowel movements." I'm like, "I can't even get up."

"I can't even get up." "I can't even get up." >> Yeah. Right. >> Yeah. Right. >> Yeah. Right. >> And then when I would ask my husband >> And then when I would ask my husband >> And then when I would ask my husband sometimes to help me, they were like, sometimes to help me, they were like, sometimes to help me, they were like, "Oh, don't help her. She needs to be "Oh, don't help her. She needs to be "Oh, don't help her. She needs to be able to get up by herself." And I'm able to get up by herself." And I'm able to get up by herself." And I'm like, like, like, >> I was like, "No." >> I was like, "No." >> I was like, "No." >> They weren't giving pain. They were >> They weren't giving pain. They were >> They weren't giving pain. They were giving me ibuprofen, Tylenol. giving me ibuprofen, Tylenol. giving me ibuprofen, Tylenol. That's it. That's it. That's it. >> And so when I asked for like, "Um, >> And so when I asked for like, "Um, >> And so when I asked for like, "Um, excuse me. excuse me. excuse me. >> I'm in serious pain here." They treated >> I'm in serious pain here." They treated >> I'm in serious pain here." They treated me like I was some dope head, me like I was some dope head, me like I was some dope head, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> Oh my gosh. >> Oh my gosh. >> Oh my gosh. >> Because black women, brown women, they >> Because black women, brown women, they >> Because black women, brown women, they look at us like, "Oh, they just they're look at us like, "Oh, they just they're look at us like, "Oh, they just they're just here for a hit." I'm not here to just here for a hit." I'm not here to just here for a hit." I'm not here to get high. I'm black. I'm educated. I'm get high. I'm black. I'm educated. I'm get high. I'm black. I'm educated. I'm in here having a baby. And you just had in here having a baby. And you just had in here having a baby. And you just had a baby. a baby. a baby. >> I just had a baby. You just cut layers >> I just had a baby. You just cut layers >> I just had a baby. You just cut layers of my skin open. Mind you, Ben Tob is a of my skin open. Mind you, Ben Tob is a of my skin open. Mind you, Ben Tob is a teaching hospital. So, they had students teaching hospital. So, they had students teaching hospital. So, they had students in there in there in there >> watching and they're like, "Oh, don't do >> watching and they're like, "Oh, don't do >> watching and they're like, "Oh, don't do this or cut through this." And I'm this or cut through this." And I'm this or cut through this." And I'm hearing that was the longest C-section hearing that was the longest C-section hearing that was the longest C-section I've ever had. You My other kids 30 I've ever had. You My other kids 30 I've ever had. You My other kids 30 minutes with with her it was like 45 to minutes with with her it was like 45 to minutes with with her it was like 45 to an hour. an hour. an hour. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. And so many things with the epidural.

And so many things with the epidural. And so many things with the epidural. They had to stick me twice. It was a They had to stick me twice. It was a They had to stick me twice. It was a student that did it. student that did it. student that did it. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Stuck me twice almost. And you know you >> Stuck me twice almost. And you know you >> Stuck me twice almost. And you know you can you can get like paralyzed from can you can get like paralyzed from can you can get like paralyzed from absolutely wrong. absolutely wrong. absolutely wrong. >> Absolutely. I still have back pain. >> Absolutely. I still have back pain. >> Absolutely. I still have back pain. >> Me too. >> Me too. >> Me too. >> From epidural. Yeah. >> From epidural. Yeah. >> From epidural. Yeah. >> And you know I was like this this is >> And you know I was like this this is >> And you know I was like this this is like one of the worst experiences I've like one of the worst experiences I've like one of the worst experiences I've ever had. And it was challenging even ever had. And it was challenging even ever had. And it was challenging even going home. It was you know I couldn't going home. It was you know I couldn't going home. It was you know I couldn't really care for my baby as well. I'm really care for my baby as well. I'm really care for my baby as well. I'm glad we had family. My husband had his glad we had family. My husband had his glad we had family. My husband had his family there family there family there >> to help me. I had um my kids, grandma >> to help me. I had um my kids, grandma >> to help me. I had um my kids, grandma there. So, if it wasn't for them, I there. So, if it wasn't for them, I there. So, if it wasn't for them, I don't think I would even even have made don't think I would even even have made don't think I would even even have made it it it >> have made it. >> have made it. >> have made it. >> And your your I mean, if you don't eat >> And your your I mean, if you don't eat >> And your your I mean, if you don't eat right, your supply, you know, your your right, your supply, you know, your your right, your supply, you know, your your milk supply goes down and you have to milk supply goes down and you have to milk supply goes down and you have to eat properly and get enough calories in eat properly and get enough calories in eat properly and get enough calories in every day and it just trickles so much every day and it just trickles so much every day and it just trickles so much more, you know, and and I'm so sad that more, you know, and and I'm so sad that more, you know, and and I'm so sad that you had to go through that and I'm I'm you had to go through that and I'm I'm you had to go through that and I'm I'm very sorry that you really did have to very sorry that you really did have to very sorry that you really did have to go through that. go through that. go through that. >> Yeah. Thanks for that. um by the grace >> Yeah. Thanks for that. um by the grace >> Yeah. Thanks for that. um by the grace of God, you know, and to put the cherry of God, you know, and to put the cherry of God, you know, and to put the cherry on top of the cake, she had jaundice, so on top of the cake, she had jaundice, so on top of the cake, she had jaundice, so we weren't even able to see her. Like, I we weren't even able to see her. Like, I we weren't even able to see her. Like, I couldn't see her. My husband would go couldn't see her. My husband would go couldn't see her. My husband would go walk and see her, walk and see her, walk and see her, >> but it was it was the wildest birthing >> but it was it was the wildest birthing >> but it was it was the wildest birthing experience I've ever had.

experience I've ever had. experience I've ever had. >> So, thank you guys though for that. >> So, thank you guys though for that. >> So, thank you guys though for that. >> I cannot imagine. I I just want to ask, >> I cannot imagine. I I just want to ask, >> I cannot imagine. I I just want to ask, how long did it take you to recover or how long did it take you to recover or how long did it take you to recover or are you still recovering? are you still recovering? are you still recovering? >> You're still recovering? Yeah, >> You're still recovering? Yeah, >> You're still recovering? Yeah, >> I'm still recovering. >> I'm still recovering. >> I'm still recovering. >> Yeah. 6 months later. and six months >> Yeah. 6 months later. and six months >> Yeah. 6 months later. and six months later I'm still in pain. Um had to go later I'm still in pain. Um had to go later I'm still in pain. Um had to go back to urgent carees ERS because it was back to urgent carees ERS because it was back to urgent carees ERS because it was got infected. got infected. got infected. >> So and they're like, "Oh, there's we >> So and they're like, "Oh, there's we >> So and they're like, "Oh, there's we just got to let it close." And I'm like just got to let it close." And I'm like just got to let it close." And I'm like I'm like, "No, I'm like, "No, I'm like, "No, >> what do you mean?" >> what do you mean?" >> what do you mean?" >> No. No. It's layers and layers layers >> No. No. It's layers and layers layers >> No. No. It's layers and layers layers and layers of something could be and layers of something could be and layers of something could be infected underneath one layer. infected underneath one layer. infected underneath one layer. >> Yeah. So it was it was just overall out >> Yeah. So it was it was just overall out >> Yeah. So it was it was just overall out here in Harris County. I didn't want to here in Harris County. I didn't want to here in Harris County. I didn't want to believe it. I was very optimistic about, believe it. I was very optimistic about, believe it. I was very optimistic about, you know, having a black African doctor. you know, having a black African doctor. you know, having a black African doctor. You know, I was very optimistic about You know, I was very optimistic about You know, I was very optimistic about her being my doctor. her being my doctor. her being my doctor. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> And then for her to not even be there >> And then for her to not even be there >> And then for her to not even be there during the procedure. during the procedure. during the procedure. >> I had all these doctors I never talked >> I had all these doctors I never talked >> I had all these doctors I never talked to, never met, to, never met, to, never met, >> never met. >> never met. >> never met. >> And you know, so your main doctor was >> And you know, so your main doctor was >> And you know, so your main doctor was not there. Was not there. And you chose not there. Was not there. And you chose not there. Was not there. And you chose her. I chose you chose her and she her. I chose you chose her and she her. I chose you chose her and she wasn't there that day. Wow. That's so wasn't there that day. Wow. That's so wasn't there that day. Wow. That's so concerning especially in like the concerning especially in like the concerning especially in like the healthcare industry where you know they healthcare industry where you know they healthcare industry where you know they know you specifically you know they know know you specifically you know they know know you specifically you know they know what your needs are, what you can and what your needs are, what you can and what your needs are, what you can and cannot do and for them just to throw you cannot do and for them just to throw you cannot do and for them just to throw you into the wolves like they said you know into the wolves like they said you know into the wolves like they said you know it's it's so it's so heartbreaking. It it's it's so it's so heartbreaking. It it's it's so it's so heartbreaking. It really is heartbreaking really is heartbreaking really is heartbreaking >> and not to get in your business and >> and not to get in your business and >> and not to get in your business and please let me know if you want to answer please let me know if you want to answer please let me know if you want to answer this.

this. this. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But >> But >> But >> did you have private insurance? >> did you have private insurance? >> did you have private insurance? >> Um not at the time. No. >> Um not at the time. No. >> Um not at the time. No. >> Okay. So you had >> Okay. So you had >> Okay. So you had >> I had Medicaid. >> I had Medicaid. >> I had Medicaid. >> Medicaid. pregnant pregnancy Medicaid >> Medicaid. pregnant pregnancy Medicaid >> Medicaid. pregnant pregnancy Medicaid and that has a lot to do with it and that has a lot to do with it and that has a lot to do with it >> to do with it. It does. It does. I felt >> to do with it. It does. It does. I felt >> to do with it. It does. It does. I felt like when I I also had Medicaid having like when I I also had Medicaid having like when I I also had Medicaid having my baby and my baby and my baby and >> they just try to milk me every which >> they just try to milk me every which >> they just try to milk me every which way. They try to give um unnecessary way. They try to give um unnecessary way. They try to give um unnecessary like you know tests. Um you know like you know tests. Um you know like you know tests. Um you know sometimes they'll tell you to do a sometimes they'll tell you to do a sometimes they'll tell you to do a papsmear while you're pregnant and papsmear while you're pregnant and papsmear while you're pregnant and that's actually very very bad for you. that's actually very very bad for you. that's actually very very bad for you. You get infections You get infections You get infections >> while you're while you're pregnant. you >> while you're while you're pregnant. you >> while you're while you're pregnant. you know, know, know, >> papsmear while you're pregnant. They >> papsmear while you're pregnant. They >> papsmear while you're pregnant. They told me to to do it one and I refused, told me to to do it one and I refused, told me to to do it one and I refused, you know, I was like, "No, we're gonna you know, I was like, "No, we're gonna you know, I was like, "No, we're gonna leave that till later. That could be leave that till later. That could be leave that till later. That could be that could be done later." that could be done later." that could be done later." >> Yeah, that could be done later. It's not >> Yeah, that could be done later. It's not >> Yeah, that could be done later. It's not necessary. So, they really will try to necessary. So, they really will try to necessary. So, they really will try to milk you if you do have, you know, good milk you if you do have, you know, good milk you if you do have, you know, good insurance or a certain type of insurance or a certain type of insurance or a certain type of insurance. insurance. insurance. >> I was about to say, even with private >> I was about to say, even with private >> I was about to say, even with private insurance, um, the pregnancy Medicaid insurance, um, the pregnancy Medicaid insurance, um, the pregnancy Medicaid helps offset the cost because it is so helps offset the cost because it is so helps offset the cost because it is so expensive. expensive. expensive. >> So expensive. So if you guys I don't >> So expensive. So if you guys I don't >> So expensive. So if you guys I don't know which camera which camera know which camera which camera know which camera which camera >> but if you are looking to have a baby >> but if you are looking to have a baby >> but if you are looking to have a baby just think about the cost just think about the cost just think about the cost >> very expensive >> very expensive >> very expensive >> it is expensive once the baby when the >> it is expensive once the baby when the >> it is expensive once the baby when the baby is inside and once the baby is out.

baby is inside and once the baby is out. baby is inside and once the baby is out. Okay Okay Okay through it. I would also love to hear through it. I would also love to hear through it. I would also love to hear your story. I know it's a little bit your story. I know it's a little bit your story. I know it's a little bit more touchy. Um more touchy. Um more touchy. Um >> I I I you know I can't I can't even say >> I I I you know I can't I can't even say >> I I I you know I can't I can't even say that because my heart goes out to all that because my heart goes out to all that because my heart goes out to all mothers mothers mothers >> who have gone through I mean and just >> who have gone through I mean and just >> who have gone through I mean and just because I actually died or as my husband because I actually died or as my husband because I actually died or as my husband like to say don't say died cuz you're like to say don't say died cuz you're like to say don't say died cuz you're still alive. still alive. still alive. >> No >> No >> No >> I went through cardiac arrest my heart >> I went through cardiac arrest my heart >> I went through cardiac arrest my heart stopped that meant my baby's heart stopped that meant my baby's heart stopped that meant my baby's heart stopped because she was still in me. M stopped because she was still in me. M stopped because she was still in me. M >> um just because that happened to me, I >> um just because that happened to me, I >> um just because that happened to me, I don't think it's any worse than anything don't think it's any worse than anything don't think it's any worse than anything >> because mothers should not have to >> because mothers should not have to >> because mothers should not have to experience any of the things that we experience any of the things that we experience any of the things that we experience when we're bringing life into experience when we're bringing life into experience when we're bringing life into this world. this world. this world. >> And I am so angry still >> And I am so angry still >> And I am so angry still >> because >> because >> because >> me too. >> me too. >> me too. >> There is there there's so much. So let >> There is there there's so much. So let >> There is there there's so much. So let me let me tell it fast. You know, I me let me tell it fast. You know, I me let me tell it fast. You know, I could be longwinded. No worries. Sorry. could be longwinded. No worries. Sorry. could be longwinded. No worries. Sorry. >> We love stories. Um, and and it's it's >> We love stories. Um, and and it's it's >> We love stories. Um, and and it's it's so great that we're having this so great that we're having this so great that we're having this conversation today because today is my conversation today because today is my conversation today because today is my son's 8-year-old birthday. son's 8-year-old birthday. son's 8-year-old birthday. >> Congratulations. Happy birthday, >> Congratulations. Happy birthday, >> Congratulations. Happy birthday, >> Lennox the Great.

>> Lennox the Great. >> Lennox the Great. >> Lux, happy birthday. >> Lux, happy birthday. >> Lux, happy birthday. >> We love you. >> We love you. >> We love you. >> And so, you know, when I had his sister >> And so, you know, when I had his sister >> And so, you know, when I had his sister first, same thing. When I first had him, first, same thing. When I first had him, first, same thing. When I first had him, it was you have to have an emergency it was you have to have an emergency it was you have to have an emergency C-section. We are losing his heart rate. C-section. We are losing his heart rate. C-section. We are losing his heart rate. I don't know if that's like I don't know if that's like I don't know if that's like the same thing. They told me the same the same thing. They told me the same the same thing. They told me the same exact same thing. I'm I'm thinking to exact same thing. I'm I'm thinking to exact same thing. I'm I'm thinking to myself like maybe that's in a script myself like maybe that's in a script myself like maybe that's in a script somewhere because, you know, like why somewhere because, you know, like why somewhere because, you know, like why are we doing this? And so I'd had an are we doing this? And so I'd had an are we doing this? And so I'd had an emergency C-section with him. So when it emergency C-section with him. So when it emergency C-section with him. So when it came to my daughter, came to my daughter, came to my daughter, >> they were like, "You have to have an um >> they were like, "You have to have an um >> they were like, "You have to have an um you have to have a C-section because you you have to have a C-section because you you have to have a C-section because you had one with your son and and you can had one with your son and and you can had one with your son and and you can you like rip stuff open and we don't you like rip stuff open and we don't you like rip stuff open and we don't want to do that." And so um they told me want to do that." And so um they told me want to do that." And so um they told me I had my I was set up for that. But as I had my I was set up for that. But as I had my I was set up for that. But as you know, children can take your teeth. you know, children can take your teeth. you know, children can take your teeth. >> And so she was giving me a really bad >> And so she was giving me a really bad >> And so she was giving me a really bad tooth ache. And I went to Texas tooth ache. And I went to Texas tooth ache. And I went to Texas Children's Texas Women's the Yeah. Texas Children's Texas Women's the Yeah. Texas Children's Texas Women's the Yeah. Texas Children's the Women's Pavilion Children's the Women's Pavilion Children's the Women's Pavilion >> just to get a release so that I can take >> just to get a release so that I can take >> just to get a release so that I can take it to the dentist and get X-rays and get it to the dentist and get X-rays and get it to the dentist and get X-rays and get stuff done.

stuff done. stuff done. >> Well, they looked and saw that I don't >> Well, they looked and saw that I don't >> Well, they looked and saw that I don't take blood for religious reasons. And take blood for religious reasons. And take blood for religious reasons. And they said, they said, they said, "Let's do your C-section now today." And "Let's do your C-section now today." And "Let's do your C-section now today." And I said, "Excuse me, why?" I was like, I said, "Excuse me, why?" I was like, I said, "Excuse me, why?" I was like, "Hold on, wait a minute. Why? "Hold on, wait a minute. Why? "Hold on, wait a minute. Why? >> I didn't walk in here for that." >> I didn't walk in here for that." >> I didn't walk in here for that." >> Now, little did I know and I would learn >> Now, little did I know and I would learn >> Now, little did I know and I would learn later that 6 weeks before me, a later that 6 weeks before me, a later that 6 weeks before me, a beautiful uh nurse practitioner had her beautiful uh nurse practitioner had her beautiful uh nurse practitioner had her son and after she had her son, she son and after she had her son, she son and after she had her son, she started bleeding profusely. the father, started bleeding profusely. the father, started bleeding profusely. the father, you know, saw the doctor call for blood you know, saw the doctor call for blood you know, saw the doctor call for blood twice. First of all, why isn't blood, if twice. First of all, why isn't blood, if twice. First of all, why isn't blood, if she takes blood, why is it readily ready she takes blood, why is it readily ready she takes blood, why is it readily ready to give? It should be there. It's it's a to give? It should be there. It's it's a to give? It should be there. It's it's a pregnancy. pregnancy. pregnancy. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Um he called for blood twice and that >> Um he called for blood twice and that >> Um he called for blood twice and that beautiful beautiful beautiful >> soul died in the hallway, said the >> soul died in the hallway, said the >> soul died in the hallway, said the father. And father. And father. And I feel like, and this is why I told that I feel like, and this is why I told that I feel like, and this is why I told that father that I would be a witness because father that I would be a witness because father that I would be a witness because she was at the same hospital as as me. I she was at the same hospital as as me. I she was at the same hospital as as me. I feel like because of that, she died 6 feel like because of that, she died 6 feel like because of that, she died 6 weeks before us, weeks before us, weeks before us, >> they saw an opportunity to say, "Hey, >> they saw an opportunity to say, "Hey, >> they saw an opportunity to say, "Hey, we're going to do this C-section without we're going to do this C-section without we're going to do this C-section without blood blood blood >> and just kind of, I don't know, add that >> and just kind of, I don't know, add that >> and just kind of, I don't know, add that to how they're making up for the to how they're making up for the to how they're making up for the preventable death preventable death preventable death >> that took place with her."

>> that took place with her." >> that took place with her." >> And so, um, I begged them. And I said, >> And so, um, I begged them. And I said, >> And so, um, I begged them. And I said, "Hey, there's there's nobody here with "Hey, there's there's nobody here with "Hey, there's there's nobody here with me. Let me at least call my husband." I me. Let me at least call my husband." I me. Let me at least call my husband." I was on the phone with my sisters and I was on the phone with my sisters and I was on the phone with my sisters and I was crying profusely. was crying profusely. was crying profusely. >> And so the doctor came in and he was >> And so the doctor came in and he was >> And so the doctor came in and he was like, "Why are you crying?" And I said, like, "Why are you crying?" And I said, like, "Why are you crying?" And I said, "Because we die here." "Because we die here." "Because we die here." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yes, we do. >> Yes, we do. >> Yes, we do. >> Oh my gosh. >> Oh my gosh. >> Oh my gosh. >> Mothers die here. >> Mothers die here. >> Mothers die here. >> We do. We do. And we're in such uh you >> We do. We do. And we're in such uh you >> We do. We do. And we're in such uh you know the minority groups are the ones know the minority groups are the ones know the minority groups are the ones that get hit the most you know and that get hit the most you know and that get hit the most you know and >> it's so unfortunate because we see it >> it's so unfortunate because we see it >> it's so unfortunate because we see it every day you know all these new mothers every day you know all these new mothers every day you know all these new mothers mothers to be you know like even mothers mothers to be you know like even mothers mothers to be you know like even mothers that you know have had kids before and that you know have had kids before and that you know have had kids before and it's just it it it we all get wrapped in it's just it it it we all get wrapped in it's just it it it we all get wrapped in the same wrapping when going to the the same wrapping when going to the the same wrapping when going to the hospital hospital hospital >> and I love that you said you're an >> and I love that you said you're an >> and I love that you said you're an educated woman because education doesn't educated woman because education doesn't educated woman because education doesn't even stop it doesn't matter you're an even stop it doesn't matter you're an even stop it doesn't matter you're an educated woman you kind of go up. It educated woman you kind of go up. It educated woman you kind of go up. It does, does, does, >> you know. And I I put that on I put that >> you know. And I I put that on I put that >> you know. And I I put that on I put that on on one of my um one of my carousels I on on one of my um one of my carousels I on on one of my um one of my carousels I did when it was uh Black Maternal Health did when it was uh Black Maternal Health did when it was uh Black Maternal Health Week, Week, Week, >> you know, an educated woman. There was a >> you know, an educated woman. There was a >> you know, an educated woman. There was a a professor, a doctor actually who a professor, a doctor actually who a professor, a doctor actually who >> passed away in in January of 2026, you >> passed away in in January of 2026, you >> passed away in in January of 2026, you know, because again, it's systemic.

know, because again, it's systemic. know, because again, it's systemic. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I say that because and a lot of >> And I say that because and a lot of >> And I say that because and a lot of people don't like to hear this. You people don't like to hear this. You people don't like to hear this. You don't like to hear systemic racism. You don't like to hear systemic racism. You don't like to hear systemic racism. You hate to hear it because you feel like, hate to hear it because you feel like, hate to hear it because you feel like, oh well, people aren't slaves anymore. oh well, people aren't slaves anymore. oh well, people aren't slaves anymore. That doesn't mean that That doesn't mean that That doesn't mean that [clears throat] they always hit us with [clears throat] they always hit us with [clears throat] they always hit us with the we have the same privileges. We have the we have the same privileges. We have the we have the same privileges. We have the same this. No, we do not. We do not. the same this. No, we do not. We do not. the same this. No, we do not. We do not. >> When systemically it has been an >> When systemically it has been an >> When systemically it has been an oppression, oppression, oppression, >> oppressing oppressing us >> oppressing oppressing us >> oppressing oppressing us >> systemically. And not only that, it's it >> systemically. And not only that, it's it >> systemically. And not only that, it's it it's ignoring us. It's being negligent it's ignoring us. It's being negligent it's ignoring us. It's being negligent like not having blood available when you like not having blood available when you like not having blood available when you know this person like when a pregnancy know this person like when a pregnancy know this person like when a pregnancy requires blood and we lose blood having requires blood and we lose blood having requires blood and we lose blood having a baby it is being negligent. It is a baby it is being negligent. It is a baby it is being negligent. It is ignoring our pain. It is giving us less ignoring our pain. It is giving us less ignoring our pain. It is giving us less than giving us Tylenol versus what we than giving us Tylenol versus what we than giving us Tylenol versus what we pain from pain from pain from >> because what is what is the overall that >> because what is what is the overall that >> because what is what is the overall that saying that that that doctors used to saying that that that doctors used to saying that that that doctors used to say because of um you know they did that say because of um you know they did that say because of um you know they did that study on skulls of black people. You study on skulls of black people. You study on skulls of black people. You know it was the what is it called the know it was the what is it called the know it was the what is it called the Gino Gino Gino some book that somebody wrote years ago some book that somebody wrote years ago some book that somebody wrote years ago that they said that black people can that they said that black people can that they said that black people can take more pain. Right. Right. I'm like take more pain. Right. Right. I'm like take more pain. Right. Right. I'm like no right.

no right. no right. >> Yeah. There's a book, I forgot what it's >> Yeah. There's a book, I forgot what it's >> Yeah. There's a book, I forgot what it's called. called. called. >> I I I know what you're talking about, >> I I I know what you're talking about, >> I I I know what you're talking about, right? Or or the same like I mean, and right? Or or the same like I mean, and right? Or or the same like I mean, and forget the book that's being written. I forget the book that's being written. I forget the book that's being written. I mean RFK said it recently that we don't mean RFK said it recently that we don't mean RFK said it recently that we don't have to be on the same vaccine schedule. have to be on the same vaccine schedule. have to be on the same vaccine schedule. Like this is insane. This is insanity. Like this is insane. This is insanity. Like this is insane. This is insanity. We are all humans. It doesn't matter We are all humans. It doesn't matter We are all humans. It doesn't matter what your skin color is on the outside. what your skin color is on the outside. what your skin color is on the outside. On the inside, your blood is blue. On the inside, your blood is blue. On the inside, your blood is blue. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know, and it's like it it it kills >> You know, and it's like it it it kills >> You know, and it's like it it it kills me when I hear some of the same things. me when I hear some of the same things. me when I hear some of the same things. And so here I am. They give me a chance And so here I am. They give me a chance And so here I am. They give me a chance to let my husband come in, to let my husband come in, to let my husband come in, >> you know. Um, they take me back there >> you know. Um, they take me back there >> you know. Um, they take me back there again. Didn't listen to me the same way again. Didn't listen to me the same way again. Didn't listen to me the same way they didn't listen to you. When they they didn't listen to you. When they they didn't listen to you. When they gave me the epidural and laid me down, gave me the epidural and laid me down, gave me the epidural and laid me down, >> first they laid me down and my legs was >> first they laid me down and my legs was >> first they laid me down and my legs was still turned this way. So, still turned this way. So, still turned this way. So, >> it's already hitting me and I can't >> it's already hitting me and I can't >> it's already hitting me and I can't move. move. move. >> I can't move. So, I'm trying to swing my >> I can't move. So, I'm trying to swing my >> I can't move. So, I'm trying to swing my legs cuz I can feel that they're turned legs cuz I can feel that they're turned legs cuz I can feel that they're turned crazy. crazy. crazy. >> So, I'm trying to swing my legs and he >> So, I'm trying to swing my legs and he >> So, I'm trying to swing my legs and he says, "Stop trying to move." And I said, says, "Stop trying to move." And I said, says, "Stop trying to move." And I said, "Yeah, I don't feel right." "Yeah, I don't feel right." "Yeah, I don't feel right." >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I don't feel right. Yeah. And and he >> I don't feel right. Yeah. And and he >> I don't feel right. Yeah. And and he comes over, "You're okay. You're okay."

comes over, "You're okay. You're okay." comes over, "You're okay. You're okay." And I was like, "That's interesting And I was like, "That's interesting And I was like, "That's interesting because in me, I'm in my own body. How? because in me, I'm in my own body. How? because in me, I'm in my own body. How? You're not in here. You're not in here. You're not in here. >> You don't know how I feeling at that >> You don't know how I feeling at that >> You don't know how I feeling at that moment." Yeah. moment." Yeah. moment." Yeah. >> And so I was like, "Hey, I don't feel >> And so I was like, "Hey, I don't feel >> And so I was like, "Hey, I don't feel right." And immediately I'm out. right." And immediately I'm out. right." And immediately I'm out. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Now, according to what they wrote, >> Okay. Now, according to what they wrote, >> Okay. Now, according to what they wrote, I seized. I would bite both sides of my I seized. I would bite both sides of my I seized. I would bite both sides of my tongue and my cheeks tongue and my cheeks tongue and my cheeks >> and then my heart would stop >> and then my heart would stop >> and then my heart would stop >> and they would have to. Now, they said >> and they would have to. Now, they said >> and they would have to. Now, they said this happened in a minute, but I want this happened in a minute, but I want this happened in a minute, but I want you to hear what they did in 60 seconds. you to hear what they did in 60 seconds. you to hear what they did in 60 seconds. >> They said after I seized that my heart >> They said after I seized that my heart >> They said after I seized that my heart stopped that they gave me epidural I stopped that they gave me epidural I stopped that they gave me epidural I mean uh um they gave me um epinephrine. mean uh um they gave me um epinephrine. mean uh um they gave me um epinephrine. to restart my heart. to restart my heart. to restart my heart. >> They did chest compressions >> They did chest compressions >> They did chest compressions and mouth to mouth. and mouth to mouth. and mouth to mouth. >> How do you do that in 60 seconds? Ain't >> How do you do that in 60 seconds? Ain't >> How do you do that in 60 seconds? Ain't no way. There's no way. There isn't no way. There's no way. There isn't no way. There's no way. There isn't >> because not only did you do that, but >> because not only did you do that, but >> because not only did you do that, but while people were doing that to me, they while people were doing that to me, they while people were doing that to me, they before they did that, they cut out the before they did that, they cut out the before they did that, they cut out the baby. The baby wasn't out. They did not baby. The baby wasn't out. They did not baby. The baby wasn't out. They did not start cutting on me yet. I died with my start cutting on me yet. I died with my start cutting on me yet. I died with my baby in me. M baby in me. M baby in me. M >> they would cut the baby out, >> they would cut the baby out, >> they would cut the baby out, make sure she's okay because her heart make sure she's okay because her heart make sure she's okay because her heart stopped cuz mine did.

stopped cuz mine did. stopped cuz mine did. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And then they would revive me. >> And then they would revive me. >> And then they would revive me. >> Oh my gosh. >> Oh my gosh. >> Oh my gosh. >> Like this is insane. And then they would >> Like this is insane. And then they would >> Like this is insane. And then they would lie lie lie >> on my paperwork. >> on my paperwork. >> on my paperwork. >> That's horrible. >> That's horrible. >> That's horrible. >> They would switch my nurses, right? >> They would switch my nurses, right? >> They would switch my nurses, right? Change my nurses. I never had the same Change my nurses. I never had the same Change my nurses. I never had the same nurse. nurse. nurse. >> They would change my nurses. And it was >> They would change my nurses. And it was >> They would change my nurses. And it was the last nurse that came in that told the last nurse that came in that told the last nurse that came in that told me, "Hey, 6 weeks before you, a woman me, "Hey, 6 weeks before you, a woman me, "Hey, 6 weeks before you, a woman died here." died here." died here." >> She said, "Look, look her up and find >> She said, "Look, look her up and find >> She said, "Look, look her up and find her." her." her." >> And it just so happened that I knew the >> And it just so happened that I knew the >> And it just so happened that I knew the father of her child. father of her child. father of her child. >> That switching nurses is crazy. >> That switching nurses is crazy. >> That switching nurses is crazy. >> It is. >> It is. >> It is. >> My husband, they had um so with the >> My husband, they had um so with the >> My husband, they had um so with the epidural, I had to get stuck twice. Got epidural, I had to get stuck twice. Got epidural, I had to get stuck twice. Got stuck. All of a sudden, instead of my stuck. All of a sudden, instead of my stuck. All of a sudden, instead of my lower half getting numb, my whole upper lower half getting numb, my whole upper lower half getting numb, my whole upper chest to my to my chin. chest to my to my chin. chest to my to my chin. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> And I said, "Hold on. >> And I said, "Hold on. >> And I said, "Hold on. >> You can't feel >> You can't feel >> You can't feel >> I can't feel up here." >> I can't feel up here." >> I can't feel up here." >> So the nurse comes in, another uh the >> So the nurse comes in, another uh the >> So the nurse comes in, another uh the the anesthesiologist comes in. He's the anesthesiologist comes in. He's the anesthesiologist comes in. He's like, "Oh yeah, we're having a problem like, "Oh yeah, we're having a problem like, "Oh yeah, we're having a problem with all of these packs. The whole row, with all of these packs. The whole row, with all of these packs. The whole row, the whole every woman in labor and the whole every woman in labor and the whole every woman in labor and delivery up here that got this pack of delivery up here that got this pack of delivery up here that got this pack of medicine with the epidural is feeling ch medicine with the epidural is feeling ch medicine with the epidural is feeling ch is up to their chest."

is up to their chest." is up to their chest." >> Oh my god. So then they had to they had >> Oh my god. So then they had to they had >> Oh my god. So then they had to they had to take that one out. So now I'm still to take that one out. So now I'm still to take that one out. So now I'm still feeling the contractions. You know, it feeling the contractions. You know, it feeling the contractions. You know, it took about like three more hours for the took about like three more hours for the took about like three more hours for the other medicine to finally hit to where other medicine to finally hit to where other medicine to finally hit to where it was supposed to. it was supposed to. it was supposed to. >> You see what I'm saying? You see why I'm >> You see what I'm saying? You see why I'm >> You see what I'm saying? You see why I'm saying saying saying >> that I don't care that my heart stopped. >> that I don't care that my heart stopped. >> that I don't care that my heart stopped. This is atrocious. This is egregious. This is atrocious. This is egregious. This is atrocious. This is egregious. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. >> And I it it's it's things like that when >> And I it it's it's things like that when >> And I it it's it's things like that when I sit and think and when I when I I sit and think and when I when I I sit and think and when I when I finally do come back and I'm revived and finally do come back and I'm revived and finally do come back and I'm revived and I'm so grateful to God. I'm so grateful to God. I'm so grateful to God. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> Oh yes. >> Oh yes. >> Oh yes. >> And when I'm saying like I'm trying I >> And when I'm saying like I'm trying I >> And when I'm saying like I'm trying I always say that babies are crying when always say that babies are crying when always say that babies are crying when they're born cuz that breath of life they're born cuz that breath of life they're born cuz that breath of life hurts. I mean everything was in pain. My hurts. I mean everything was in pain. My hurts. I mean everything was in pain. My chest they were pushing on my chest. My chest they were pushing on my chest. My chest they were pushing on my chest. My chest felt like it was going to cave in. chest felt like it was going to cave in. chest felt like it was going to cave in. >> Um they had the mask over me. I was >> Um they had the mask over me. I was >> Um they had the mask over me. I was fighting because I'm thinking someone's fighting because I'm thinking someone's fighting because I'm thinking someone's trying to kill me. You don't know me. So trying to kill me. You don't know me. So trying to kill me. You don't know me. So there's the doctor saying, "She's there's the doctor saying, "She's there's the doctor saying, "She's fighting me. She's fighting me, but he's fighting me. She's fighting me, but he's fighting me. She's fighting me, but he's trying to give me the oxy oxygen. trying to give me the oxy oxygen. trying to give me the oxy oxygen. There's a nurse There's a nurse There's a nurse >> that I never got her name. She's nowhere >> that I never got her name. She's nowhere >> that I never got her name. She's nowhere in my my paperwork." And I never saw her in my my paperwork." And I never saw her in my my paperwork." And I never saw her again. But she's in snot and tears again. But she's in snot and tears again. But she's in snot and tears >> over me saying, "Oh my god, we almost >> over me saying, "Oh my god, we almost >> over me saying, "Oh my god, we almost lost you. I thought you were gone." I lost you. I thought you were gone." I lost you. I thought you were gone." I never saw her again.

never saw her again. never saw her again. >> Oh gosh. >> Oh gosh. >> Oh gosh. >> No one has her name >> No one has her name >> No one has her name >> and anything. And to make matters worse, >> and anything. And to make matters worse, >> and anything. And to make matters worse, Greg Abbott, Greg Abbott, Greg Abbott, >> yes. The one that um Gina is running up >> yes. The one that um Gina is running up >> yes. The one that um Gina is running up against, the one that his seat is very against, the one that his seat is very against, the one that his seat is very close to losing, close to losing, close to losing, he said, "You only have two years to sue he said, "You only have two years to sue he said, "You only have two years to sue a hospital." a hospital." a hospital." >> Now, how long does it take a mommy to >> Now, how long does it take a mommy to >> Now, how long does it take a mommy to recover a regular, normal, healthy recover a regular, normal, healthy recover a regular, normal, healthy birth? Two to five years. Two to five birth? Two to five years. Two to five birth? Two to five years. Two to five years. years. years. >> Two to five years. >> Two to five years. >> Two to five years. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> To fully recover. >> To fully recover. >> To fully recover. >> Fully recover. Five years mentally for >> Fully recover. Five years mentally for >> Fully recover. Five years mentally for sure. sure. sure. >> Yes. The mom mom fog, the body, the >> Yes. The mom mom fog, the body, the >> Yes. The mom mom fog, the body, the everything changes. Everything. everything changes. Everything. everything changes. Everything. Hormones. Hormones. Hormones. >> So here I am. >> So here I am. >> So here I am. >> I just died with my baby. I'm trying to >> I just died with my baby. I'm trying to >> I just died with my baby. I'm trying to wrap my head around it. wrap my head around it. wrap my head around it. >> I I just got hit by a car, you know. >> I I just got hit by a car, you know. >> I I just got hit by a car, you know. >> Yes. Recent >> Yes. Recent >> Yes. Recent >> three years ago prior, right? >> three years ago prior, right? >> three years ago prior, right? I am literally trying to wrap my head I am literally trying to wrap my head I am literally trying to wrap my head around all of this. I'm dealing with around all of this. I'm dealing with around all of this. I'm dealing with doctors and and and all of these people doctors and and and all of these people doctors and and and all of these people coming in, heart heart people monitoring coming in, heart heart people monitoring coming in, heart heart people monitoring my heart, trying to find something on me my heart, trying to find something on me my heart, trying to find something on me to say I'm the reason why my heart to say I'm the reason why my heart to say I'm the reason why my heart stopped.

stopped. stopped. >> No, sorry. I'm a thicker girl, but baby, >> No, sorry. I'm a thicker girl, but baby, >> No, sorry. I'm a thicker girl, but baby, she's healthy. she's healthy. she's healthy. >> She's a healthy girl. >> She's a healthy girl. >> She's a healthy girl. >> I work out. >> I work out. >> I work out. >> And so, you can't find anything on me. >> And so, you can't find anything on me. >> And so, you can't find anything on me. And then on top of that, no lawyer will And then on top of that, no lawyer will And then on top of that, no lawyer will take my case because I survived. I haven't even I haven't even crossed that road. crossed that road. crossed that road. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because you have to prove medical >> Because you have to prove medical >> Because you have to prove medical negligence. And if all of the doctors negligence. And if all of the doctors negligence. And if all of the doctors and nurses are saying one thing, and nurses are saying one thing, and nurses are saying one thing, >> then why would they believe you? >> then why would they believe you? >> then why would they believe you? >> Yeah. when they would come and do my um >> Yeah. when they would come and do my um >> Yeah. when they would come and do my um check my vitals and my heart rate was check my vitals and my heart rate was check my vitals and my heart rate was 140 and I'm telling them I can't like I 140 and I'm telling them I can't like I 140 and I'm telling them I can't like I feel like I'm about to pass out feel like I'm about to pass out feel like I'm about to pass out >> like I feel off. >> like I feel off. >> like I feel off. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> They would delete the chart. >> They would delete the chart. >> They would delete the chart. >> They deleted I heard them say, "Okay, >> They deleted I heard them say, "Okay, >> They deleted I heard them say, "Okay, let's just delete it." Because once that let's just delete it." Because once that let's just delete it." Because once that gets sent over to the doctors, they have gets sent over to the doctors, they have gets sent over to the doctors, they have to come in and see me. Yes. to come in and see me. Yes. to come in and see me. Yes. >> You know how many times them doctors had >> You know how many times them doctors had >> You know how many times them doctors had to come in and see me because my heart to come in and see me because my heart to come in and see me because my heart rate up there, rate up there, rate up there, >> it was like 2:00 in the morning. They're >> it was like 2:00 in the morning. They're >> it was like 2:00 in the morning. They're like, "Oh, just delete it." I'm like, like, "Oh, just delete it." I'm like, like, "Oh, just delete it." I'm like, are can you guys do that?

are can you guys do that? are can you guys do that? >> Yeah. You're okay. >> Yeah. You're okay. >> Yeah. You're okay. >> Like you're not okay. >> Like you're not okay. >> Like you're not okay. >> And you're talking to them like they are >> And you're talking to them like they are >> And you're talking to them like they are doing things the right way. The same way doing things the right way. The same way doing things the right way. The same way that I said, that I said, that I said, >> "Hey, I heard them arguing about how >> "Hey, I heard them arguing about how >> "Hey, I heard them arguing about how much anesthesia to give me. Do we go by much anesthesia to give me. Do we go by much anesthesia to give me. Do we go by pounds or do we go by kilos?" They were pounds or do we go by kilos?" They were pounds or do we go by kilos?" They were argue. My husband was there when we both argue. My husband was there when we both argue. My husband was there when we both heard them arguing about it. So, did heard them arguing about it. So, did heard them arguing about it. So, did they give me too much anesthesia only they give me too much anesthesia only they give me too much anesthesia only for the doctor to say, "No, they were for the doctor to say, "No, they were for the doctor to say, "No, they were arguing about uh antibiotics." Why would arguing about uh antibiotics." Why would arguing about uh antibiotics." Why would they give me antibiotics? they give me antibiotics? they give me antibiotics? >> You weren't even taking them there. >> You weren't even taking them there. >> You weren't even taking them there. Yeah. For what? Yeah. For what? Yeah. For what? >> No, no, no, no. They try to they try to >> No, no, no, no. They try to they try to >> No, no, no, no. They try to they try to cover up everything that they Yeah. That cover up everything that they Yeah. That cover up everything that they Yeah. That goes in those rooms, you know? And that goes in those rooms, you know? And that goes in those rooms, you know? And that that really leads me to my next that really leads me to my next that really leads me to my next question. Like how can we advocate for question. Like how can we advocate for question. Like how can we advocate for women, you know, in these type of rooms? women, you know, in these type of rooms? women, you know, in these type of rooms? Like what's what's something that you Like what's what's something that you Like what's what's something that you guys, you know, with your own experience guys, you know, with your own experience guys, you know, with your own experience have been able to be like, look, I need have been able to be like, look, I need have been able to be like, look, I need someone there. I need a support team. I someone there. I need a support team. I someone there. I need a support team. I need a birthing u you know like a need a birthing u you know like a need a birthing u you know like a birthing chart for them to get you know birthing chart for them to get you know birthing chart for them to get you know give them prior to stepping into a give them prior to stepping into a give them prior to stepping into a hospital you know what do you think that hospital you know what do you think that hospital you know what do you think that it's a great you know way to advocate in it's a great you know way to advocate in it's a great you know way to advocate in those those those >> what we're doing right now is is a great >> what we're doing right now is is a great >> what we're doing right now is is a great way way way >> yes >> yes >> yes >> um you know me not being from Texas from >> um you know me not being from Texas from >> um you know me not being from Texas from Houston um ha I think having somebody Houston um ha I think having somebody Houston um ha I think having somebody that could have told me a little more that could have told me a little more that could have told me a little more >> would have helped me out >> would have helped me out >> would have helped me out >> um I think it's going to those black >> um I think it's going to those black >> um I think it's going to those black maternal health expose going to these maternal health expose going to these maternal health expose going to these you know Rodney Ellis throws things like you know Rodney Ellis throws things like you know Rodney Ellis throws things like that all the time. Um, you know, it's that all the time. Um, you know, it's that all the time. Um, you know, it's it's about educating yourself and it's about educating yourself and it's about educating yourself and educating these young black girls educating these young black girls educating these young black girls growing up who want to start a family

growing up who want to start a family growing up who want to start a family out here. And if you're no matter rich, out here. And if you're no matter rich, out here. And if you're no matter rich, poor, what type of medical church you poor, what type of medical church you poor, what type of medical church you got, it really does matter. It's it got, it really does matter. It's it got, it really does matter. It's it really is a a bias and a racism in the really is a a bias and a racism in the really is a a bias and a racism in the medical field in hospitals. It is, you medical field in hospitals. It is, you medical field in hospitals. It is, you know, and even with having a black know, and even with having a black know, and even with having a black doctor, I think that kind of made me m doctor, I think that kind of made me m doctor, I think that kind of made me m it made it made me like ma way matter it made it made me like ma way matter it made it made me like ma way matter than I should have been than I should have been than I should have been >> because I can expect that from a white >> because I can expect that from a white >> because I can expect that from a white doctor. But having a black doctor that doctor. But having a black doctor that doctor. But having a black doctor that really just, really just, really just, >> you know, didn't adhere to nothing that >> you know, didn't adhere to nothing that >> you know, didn't adhere to nothing that I wanted. I wanted. I wanted. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It had been over 10 years since I had a >> It had been over 10 years since I had a >> It had been over 10 years since I had a C-section. I wanted to have natural C-section. I wanted to have natural C-section. I wanted to have natural birth. Mhm. birth. Mhm. birth. Mhm. >> I switched to this doctor at 38 weeks >> I switched to this doctor at 38 weeks >> I switched to this doctor at 38 weeks pregnant because my my doctor had been pregnant because my my doctor had been pregnant because my my doctor had been seeing the whole time. She didn't do seeing the whole time. She didn't do seeing the whole time. She didn't do V-backs. V-backs. V-backs. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> So, I had to switch and I'm like, "Oh, I >> So, I had to switch and I'm like, "Oh, I >> So, I had to switch and I'm like, "Oh, I got a black doctor." You know, got a black doctor." You know, got a black doctor." You know, >> it's about having a birthing plan. It's >> it's about having a birthing plan. It's >> it's about having a birthing plan. It's about, you know, being able to not to about, you know, being able to not to about, you know, being able to not to like plan your births.

like plan your births. like plan your births. >> You know, I planned this baby. Yeah. >> You know, I planned this baby. Yeah. >> You know, I planned this baby. Yeah. >> So, I thought since I planned this one, >> So, I thought since I planned this one, >> So, I thought since I planned this one, this one is going to be the one that this one is going to be the one that this one is going to be the one that that is going to be okay for me. that is going to be okay for me. that is going to be okay for me. >> And it was the absolute worst. Not only >> And it was the absolute worst. Not only >> And it was the absolute worst. Not only am I 10 years older, you know, my body am I 10 years older, you know, my body am I 10 years older, you know, my body isn't what it was when it was 18, isn't what it was when it was 18, isn't what it was when it was 18, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> So, now I'm having to go through these >> So, now I'm having to go through these >> So, now I'm having to go through these moments where it's like, dang, I I can moments where it's like, dang, I I can moments where it's like, dang, I I can feel it a little bit. You know, I'm feel it a little bit. You know, I'm feel it a little bit. You know, I'm getting older. getting older. getting older. >> Being pregnant at an older age is like, >> Being pregnant at an older age is like, >> Being pregnant at an older age is like, and 30 is not even old, but pregnancy and 30 is not even old, but pregnancy and 30 is not even old, but pregnancy wise, that is like later on. It's later wise, that is like later on. It's later wise, that is like later on. It's later on the clock. on the clock. on the clock. >> It's close to It's close to geriatric, >> It's close to It's close to geriatric, >> It's close to It's close to geriatric, which is 35. which is 35. which is 35. >> Yes. So, it's later on the clock. So, my >> Yes. So, it's later on the clock. So, my >> Yes. So, it's later on the clock. So, my body just couldn't handle it, you know. body just couldn't handle it, you know. body just couldn't handle it, you know. >> And um I would just say for these young >> And um I would just say for these young >> And um I would just say for these young girls to get it go to these black girls to get it go to these black girls to get it go to these black maternal health expos, we need more maternal health expos, we need more maternal health expos, we need more black women in the medical field. We black women in the medical field. We black women in the medical field. We need more black men in the medical need more black men in the medical need more black men in the medical field. We need we don't just need field. We need we don't just need field. We need we don't just need doctors. We need nurses. We need um doctors. We need nurses. We need um doctors. We need nurses. We need um front entrance people. front entrance people. front entrance people. >> Anesthesiologist. >> Anesthesiologist. >> Anesthesiologist. >> Anesthesiologists. Don't even get me >> Anesthesiologists. Don't even get me >> Anesthesiologists. Don't even get me started on them. and started on them. and started on them. and >> but they make a lot of money, too. They >> but they make a lot of money, too. They >> but they make a lot of money, too. They sure do. And you know, it's it's it's sure do. And you know, it's it's it's sure do. And you know, it's it's it's they're lot you holding lives in your they're lot you holding lives in your they're lot you holding lives in your hand. And just to just to piggy back hand. And just to just to piggy back hand. And just to just to piggy back off, Chenise, cuz I think it was so off, Chenise, cuz I think it was so off, Chenise, cuz I think it was so great that she started with this great that she started with this great that she started with this conversation is because I need more conversation is because I need more conversation is because I need more media. I don't know. I'm going to look media. I don't know. I'm going to look media. I don't know. I'm going to look at all three cameras. I need you media at all three cameras. I need you media at all three cameras. I need you media >> to start amplifying our stories. start >> to start amplifying our stories. start >> to start amplifying our stories. start amplifying and putting a heavy weight on amplifying and putting a heavy weight on amplifying and putting a heavy weight on legislation being created around black legislation being created around black legislation being created around black maternal health. Rodney Ellis did do

maternal health. Rodney Ellis did do maternal health. Rodney Ellis did do something for black maternal health something for black maternal health something for black maternal health week, but the city was quiet. week, but the city was quiet. week, but the city was quiet. >> The city was quiet. >> The city was quiet. >> The city was quiet. >> The city was quiet. >> The city was quiet. >> The city was quiet. >> The city was quiet. >> The city was quiet. >> The city was quiet. >> I need the city. Like, if you care, >> I need the city. Like, if you care, >> I need the city. Like, if you care, we're supposed to be pro-life. Where are we're supposed to be pro-life. Where are we're supposed to be pro-life. Where are the proifers? the proifers? the proifers? >> Where are the prolifers at? >> Where are the prolifers at? >> Where are the prolifers at? >> Where are the prolifers? Like not only >> Where are the prolifers? Like not only >> Where are the prolifers? Like not only are you dealing with a baby, but doesn't are you dealing with a baby, but doesn't are you dealing with a baby, but doesn't my life matter? Doesn't the mother's my life matter? Doesn't the mother's my life matter? Doesn't the mother's life matter? life matter? life matter? >> Yes. I I feel like sometimes we forget >> Yes. I I feel like sometimes we forget >> Yes. I I feel like sometimes we forget about the moms and all this whole about the moms and all this whole about the moms and all this whole pregnancy process, you know? It's like, pregnancy process, you know? It's like, pregnancy process, you know? It's like, hello, we we're the ones making the hello, we we're the ones making the hello, we we're the ones making the whole baby. We have to feel good. We whole baby. We have to feel good. We whole baby. We have to feel good. We have to feel our best because we are have to feel our best because we are have to feel our best because we are creating another life, you know, and we creating another life, you know, and we creating another life, you know, and we get forgotten. We really do get as soon get forgotten. We really do get as soon get forgotten. We really do get as soon as you have that baby, mom's on the back as you have that baby, mom's on the back as you have that baby, mom's on the back burner, you know, and and it shouldn't burner, you know, and and it shouldn't burner, you know, and and it shouldn't be like that. We should definitely be like that. We should definitely be like that. We should definitely switch the culture to for us to be more switch the culture to for us to be more switch the culture to for us to be more >> supported during this time. It really is >> supported during this time. It really is >> supported during this time. It really is support. support. support. >> We need the media surrounding it and we >> We need the media surrounding it and we >> We need the media surrounding it and we need people to advocate. Like when when need people to advocate. Like when when need people to advocate. Like when when we're talking about abocation, we're not we're talking about abocation, we're not we're talking about abocation, we're not just talking about birth planning for just talking about birth planning for just talking about birth planning for mothers to have to take in because she mothers to have to take in because she mothers to have to take in because she had one. You they're looking at her.

had one. You they're looking at her. had one. You they're looking at her. >> She had a great birth plan. >> She had a great birth plan. >> She had a great birth plan. >> Great birth plan. >> Great birth plan. >> Great birth plan. >> Great birth plan. And still it went >> Great birth plan. And still it went >> Great birth plan. And still it went less. And that's because we're not less. And that's because we're not less. And that's because we're not holding these hospitals, doctors, and holding these hospitals, doctors, and holding these hospitals, doctors, and insurance companies accountable. insurance companies accountable. insurance companies accountable. And like she said, it's so hard to to And like she said, it's so hard to to And like she said, it's so hard to to sue these hospitals and these doctors. sue these hospitals and these doctors. sue these hospitals and these doctors. You know, I looked up so many places You know, I looked up so many places You know, I looked up so many places like that take medical malpractices. And like that take medical malpractices. And like that take medical malpractices. And you know, this is where AI comes in you know, this is where AI comes in you know, this is where AI comes in handy. Show me the statistics. Show me handy. Show me the statistics. Show me handy. Show me the statistics. Show me how many people win these. I'm going to how many people win these. I'm going to how many people win these. I'm going to show I'm going to show you all my info. show I'm going to show you all my info. show I'm going to show you all my info. Give you all my stats. Let me know where Give you all my stats. Let me know where Give you all my stats. Let me know where I'm at. I'm at. I'm at. >> So before I even start the process, I'm >> So before I even start the process, I'm >> So before I even start the process, I'm not I'm not disillusioned that I'm I'm not I'm not disillusioned that I'm I'm not I'm not disillusioned that I'm I'm going to win or, you know, blindfold is going to win or, you know, blindfold is going to win or, you know, blindfold is going in there going in, you know, and going in there going in, you know, and going in there going in, you know, and >> the odds are against me. >> the odds are against me. >> the odds are against me. >> Yeah. You know, I I me and my husband, >> Yeah. You know, I I me and my husband, >> Yeah. You know, I I me and my husband, we make kind of good money, but not good we make kind of good money, but not good we make kind of good money, but not good good money to where I'm going to be good money to where I'm going to be good money to where I'm going to be fighting this case for two, three years, fighting this case for two, three years, fighting this case for two, three years, right? right? right? >> Because lawyers aren't free. >> Because lawyers aren't free. >> Because lawyers aren't free. >> They're not. You know, >> They're not. You know, >> They're not. You know, >> they're expensive. >> they're expensive. >> they're expensive. >> They're very expensive. You know, I plan >> They're very expensive. You know, I plan >> They're very expensive. You know, I plan on law school next fall. So, I'm trying on law school next fall. So, I'm trying on law school next fall. So, I'm trying to get in there to get in there to get in there >> because I want to be on that other side >> because I want to be on that other side >> because I want to be on that other side of aocation. Absolutely. You know, I of aocation. Absolutely. You know, I of aocation. Absolutely. You know, I want to be able to start a nonprofit want to be able to start a nonprofit want to be able to start a nonprofit that that I can start the nonprofit that that that I can start the nonprofit that that that I can start the nonprofit that can help pay for legal fees and I can be can help pay for legal fees and I can be can help pay for legal fees and I can be the lawyer help like and find other the lawyer help like and find other the lawyer help like and find other lawyers that are willing to to process lawyers that are willing to to process lawyers that are willing to to process that.

that. that. >> Yeah. To help. >> Yeah. To help. >> Yeah. To help. >> So, you know, >> So, you know, >> So, you know, >> this might be this might be a connection >> this might be this might be a connection >> this might be this might be a connection JJ that you made because JJ that you made because JJ that you made because >> I am working on a nonprofit as well >> I am working on a nonprofit as well >> I am working on a nonprofit as well >> to to put mothers in a safe space >> to to put mothers in a safe space >> to to put mothers in a safe space >> after they have their baby. So, mothers >> after they have their baby. So, mothers >> after they have their baby. So, mothers who have gone through this because We who have gone through this because We who have gone through this because We don't we don't get measured clocking. We don't we don't get measured clocking. We don't we don't get measured clocking. We don't get measured when it come when it don't get measured when it come when it don't get measured when it come when it comes to us having going through these comes to us having going through these comes to us having going through these experiences. There's no data. There's no experiences. There's no data. There's no experiences. There's no data. There's no data on how many black women die on how data on how many black women die on how data on how many black women die on how many black women have collapsed lungs many black women have collapsed lungs many black women have collapsed lungs and and malpractice. There's no data on and and malpractice. There's no data on and and malpractice. There's no data on it. Yes. it. Yes. it. Yes. >> There's no data. >> There's no data. >> There's no data. Right. And I've had so many Right. And I've had so many Right. And I've had so many >> and so many even even child like even >> and so many even even child like even >> and so many even even child like even the the babies like the mothers who had the the babies like the mothers who had the the babies like the mothers who had preeclampsia and and I had a mother who preeclampsia and and I had a mother who preeclampsia and and I had a mother who had pre preeclampsia. I knew her her had pre preeclampsia. I knew her her had pre preeclampsia. I knew her her baby um they pulled the baby out with baby um they pulled the baby out with baby um they pulled the baby out with like the little scopes that No, no, no. like the little scopes that No, no, no. like the little scopes that No, no, no. They had they had the tongs which was so They had they had the tongs which was so They had they had the tongs which was so wild wild wild >> and and literally killed the baby.

>> and and literally killed the baby. >> and and literally killed the baby. >> Vaginal. >> Vaginal. >> Vaginal. >> Yes. and then wrapped the baby up and >> Yes. and then wrapped the baby up and >> Yes. and then wrapped the baby up and gave it to her and said she had a gave it to her and said she had a gave it to her and said she had a stillborn. stillborn. stillborn. This is not if you guys are thinking This is not if you guys are thinking This is not if you guys are thinking about the one where the doctor about the one where the doctor about the one where the doctor decapitated the baby's head and did the decapitated the baby's head and did the decapitated the baby's head and did the same thing. No, this is not that story. same thing. No, this is not that story. same thing. No, this is not that story. This is another story and the data is This is another story and the data is This is another story and the data is nowhere. nowhere. nowhere. >> It's so hard. It's so hard to even look >> It's so hard. It's so hard to even look >> It's so hard. It's so hard to even look for stats on on for stats on on for stats on on >> because it's not cuz it's not being >> because it's not cuz it's not being >> because it's not cuz it's not being collected. collected. collected. >> It's not recorded. >> It's not recorded. >> It's not recorded. >> And they lie on top of that. So they're >> And they lie on top of that. So they're >> And they lie on top of that. So they're lying, not recording it, and it's lying, not recording it, and it's lying, not recording it, and it's getting brushed under the rug, you know, getting brushed under the rug, you know, getting brushed under the rug, you know, >> and we don't deserve that. I feel like >> and we don't deserve that. I feel like >> and we don't deserve that. I feel like mothers do a lot for the community, for mothers do a lot for the community, for mothers do a lot for the community, for our families, for everyone around for us our families, for everyone around for us our families, for everyone around for us to be treated lesser of in those to be treated lesser of in those to be treated lesser of in those instances, you know, and and in this instances, you know, and and in this instances, you know, and and in this being in this case, you know, I really being in this case, you know, I really being in this case, you know, I really do feel like do feel like do feel like >> what's a way that we could, you know, >> what's a way that we could, you know, >> what's a way that we could, you know, like support one another during those like support one another during those like support one another during those times? Like I know it's already hard to times? Like I know it's already hard to times? Like I know it's already hard to have a baby. Postpartum, the 40 days is, have a baby. Postpartum, the 40 days is, have a baby. Postpartum, the 40 days is, oh my gosh, the worst. you know, you oh my gosh, the worst. you know, you oh my gosh, the worst. you know, you can't even move. I couldn't move for can't even move. I couldn't move for can't even move. I couldn't move for like a week after I had my baby, too. like a week after I had my baby, too. like a week after I had my baby, too. Like, it was just it was 36 hours of Like, it was just it was 36 hours of Like, it was just it was 36 hours of labor was not fun for me. And it was labor was not fun for me. And it was labor was not fun for me. And it was insane. And with them scaring you and insane. And with them scaring you and insane. And with them scaring you and doing all this and now you're stressed doing all this and now you're stressed doing all this and now you're stressed out, you're not making milk, you're out, you're not making milk, you're out, you're not making milk, you're you're going through so much at that you're going through so much at that you're going through so much at that time, you know, and I really feel like time, you know, and I really feel like time, you know, and I really feel like we need those support groups, you know, we need those support groups, you know, we need those support groups, you know, even if it's one person that you could even if it's one person that you could even if it's one person that you could lean on and be like, "Hey, this is how lean on and be like, "Hey, this is how lean on and be like, "Hey, this is how I'm feeling." Because we don't get hurt I'm feeling." Because we don't get hurt I'm feeling." Because we don't get hurt in the hospitals. They literally in the hospitals. They literally in the hospitals. They literally overlook your feelings, how your your overlook your feelings, how your your overlook your feelings, how your your pain, you know, all of that. And it's so pain, you know, all of that. And it's so pain, you know, all of that. And it's so important and so serious. Sometimes us important and so serious. Sometimes us important and so serious. Sometimes us Hispanics, Hispanics, Hispanics, >> it's a language barrier thing, and you

>> it's a language barrier thing, and you >> it's a language barrier thing, and you know, you're you're trying to tell them know, you're you're trying to tell them know, you're you're trying to tell them in Spanish. You don't even have they're in Spanish. You don't even have they're in Spanish. You don't even have they're all English speakaking doctors, and now all English speakaking doctors, and now all English speakaking doctors, and now you you can't even communicate what you you can't even communicate what you you can't even communicate what you're feeling. It's it's very you're feeling. It's it's very you're feeling. It's it's very >> Oh my gosh. It's very important. Very >> Oh my gosh. It's very important. Very >> Oh my gosh. It's very important. Very very important. very important. very important. >> A whole another aspect of it, right? >> A whole another aspect of it, right? >> A whole another aspect of it, right? >> It really really is. And it's just it's >> It really really is. And it's just it's >> It really really is. And it's just it's so saddening to see. And I feel like so saddening to see. And I feel like so saddening to see. And I feel like women don't deserve that in general. women don't deserve that in general. women don't deserve that in general. Mothers don't deserve that in general. Mothers don't deserve that in general. Mothers don't deserve that in general. And the families that get affected as And the families that get affected as And the families that get affected as well, you know, it's just it it's it well, you know, it's just it it's it well, you know, it's just it it's it trickles down. You know, it really does. trickles down. You know, it really does. trickles down. You know, it really does. >> I said that I said that, you know, >> I said that I said that, you know, >> I said that I said that, you know, babies are not only losing mothers. babies are not only losing mothers. babies are not only losing mothers. >> I said brothers are losing sisters, >> I said brothers are losing sisters, >> I said brothers are losing sisters, >> husbands are losing wives, and >> husbands are losing wives, and >> husbands are losing wives, and communities are losing matriarchs. communities are losing matriarchs. communities are losing matriarchs. >> Yes, >> Yes, >> Yes, >> we are the matriarchs in our families. >> we are the matriarchs in our families. >> we are the matriarchs in our families. And when you when we have these And when you when we have these And when you when we have these experiences, even when we survive, the experiences, even when we survive, the experiences, even when we survive, the mental disruption is so traumatized. I mental disruption is so traumatized. I mental disruption is so traumatized. I have PTSD. I was working. have PTSD. I was working. have PTSD. I was working. >> Not even not even just that. I was >> Not even not even just that. I was >> Not even not even just that. I was working out yesterday with my coach working out yesterday with my coach working out yesterday with my coach >> and my heart rate got up to a a place it >> and my heart rate got up to a a place it >> and my heart rate got up to a a place it hadn't been in a while hadn't been in a while hadn't been in a while >> and I fell on my knees and I said, "Am I >> and I fell on my knees and I said, "Am I >> and I fell on my knees and I said, "Am I going to die?" fine.

going to die?" fine. going to die?" fine. >> Like I felt like my heart was going to >> Like I felt like my heart was going to >> Like I felt like my heart was going to stop. stop. stop. >> That is the scariest feelings. >> That is the scariest feelings. >> That is the scariest feelings. >> It is. >> It is. >> It is. >> Especially when you know that feeling. >> Especially when you know that feeling. >> Especially when you know that feeling. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> And you have to calm yourself down >> And you have to calm yourself down >> And you have to calm yourself down before you overreact because maybe you before you overreact because maybe you before you overreact because maybe you just worked out a little too hard or just worked out a little too hard or just worked out a little too hard or maybe something is effing wrong. maybe something is effing wrong. maybe something is effing wrong. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> You know, >> You know, >> You know, >> but no answer was given. No answer were >> but no answer was given. No answer were >> but no answer was given. No answer were given. So I don't know why my heart given. So I don't know why my heart given. So I don't know why my heart stopped. Nobody has an answer. They stopped. Nobody has an answer. They stopped. Nobody has an answer. They still don't have an answer now. still don't have an answer now. still don't have an answer now. >> So I'm like, is it going to stop again? >> So I'm like, is it going to stop again? >> So I'm like, is it going to stop again? >> And it is it going to happen again to >> And it is it going to happen again to >> And it is it going to happen again to someone else? someone else? someone else? >> You know, because we go, we keep going >> You know, because we go, we keep going >> You know, because we go, we keep going in there blindly, completely blind. And in there blindly, completely blind. And in there blindly, completely blind. And then they scare us. They use all these then they scare us. They use all these then they scare us. They use all these scare tactics. Oh, your baby's heart scare tactics. Oh, your baby's heart scare tactics. Oh, your baby's heart rate or your or this or that. And it's rate or your or this or that. And it's rate or your or this or that. And it's like we're stressing out. We can't even like we're stressing out. We can't even like we're stressing out. We can't even have the baby in peace, you know, have the baby in peace, you know, have the baby in peace, you know, birthing birthing, you know, like our birthing birthing, you know, like our birthing birthing, you know, like our plan like we think in a plan. Like I had plan like we think in a plan. Like I had plan like we think in a plan. Like I had a birth plan and it didn't completely a birth plan and it didn't completely a birth plan and it didn't completely didn't go as planned. Yeah. you know, didn't go as planned. Yeah. you know, didn't go as planned. Yeah. you know, and and I just really want to know what and and I just really want to know what and and I just really want to know what what would you like to really see these what would you like to really see these what would you like to really see these hospitals implement, you know, for us to hospitals implement, you know, for us to hospitals implement, you know, for us to have a a safer net while going there?

have a a safer net while going there? have a a safer net while going there? Like what would you say? I would I would Like what would you say? I would I would Like what would you say? I would I would say that I would I would say for say that I would I would say for say that I would I would say for hospitals to partner with nonprofits, hospitals to partner with nonprofits, hospitals to partner with nonprofits, partner with with Das partner with with Das partner with with Das and have a section, have a small you can and have a section, have a small you can and have a section, have a small you can a small corner office in that dog on a small corner office in that dog on a small corner office in that dog on hospital where if a mother is in need, hospital where if a mother is in need, hospital where if a mother is in need, if a mother is scared, there is a call if a mother is scared, there is a call if a mother is scared, there is a call she can make. she can make. she can make. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> And someone can go up there as her >> And someone can go up there as her >> And someone can go up there as her advocate. Someone can go up there after advocate. Someone can go up there after advocate. Someone can go up there after she has her her baby. Someone can go up she has her her baby. Someone can go up she has her her baby. Someone can go up there and say, "Okay, afterwards here's there and say, "Okay, afterwards here's there and say, "Okay, afterwards here's your plan. What's your plan when you go your plan. What's your plan when you go your plan. What's your plan when you go home? And here's what we can do for home? And here's what we can do for home? And here's what we can do for you." you." you." >> So, working with us, working with and >> So, working with us, working with and >> So, working with us, working with and like I said, like I said, like I said, >> this might be an opportunity and calling >> this might be an opportunity and calling >> this might be an opportunity and calling for us to create something together for us to create something together for us to create something together >> to where we would we would establish >> to where we would we would establish >> to where we would we would establish that in Harris County that in Harris County that in Harris County >> because Harris County doesn't have it. >> because Harris County doesn't have it. >> because Harris County doesn't have it. >> It doesn't. >> It doesn't. >> It doesn't. >> There's a lot. Shout out to the doulas >> There's a lot. Shout out to the doulas >> There's a lot. Shout out to the doulas and all Dr. Charlie King, absolutely and all Dr. Charlie King, absolutely and all Dr. Charlie King, absolutely love you. love you. love you. >> Shout out to everyone that the midwives, >> Shout out to everyone that the midwives, >> Shout out to everyone that the midwives, the advocates that are here in the city, the advocates that are here in the city, the advocates that are here in the city, but we all need to come together, create but we all need to come together, create but we all need to come together, create a coalition that the hospitals are a coalition that the hospitals are a coalition that the hospitals are required to have into.

required to have into. required to have into. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> And just imagine, I'm married. I have a >> And just imagine, I'm married. I have a >> And just imagine, I'm married. I have a great husband who's there for me. great husband who's there for me. great husband who's there for me. >> You know, I came out here with some >> You know, I came out here with some >> You know, I came out here with some family, but most my family's in family, but most my family's in family, but most my family's in California. Imagine California. Imagine California. Imagine being a young black girl, young Hispanic being a young black girl, young Hispanic being a young black girl, young Hispanic girl with nobody, girl with nobody, girl with nobody, >> no one. >> no one. >> no one. >> And you go into the hospital and you >> And you go into the hospital and you >> And you go into the hospital and you leave that hospital by yourself. leave that hospital by yourself. leave that hospital by yourself. >> I can't >> I can't >> I can't >> I couldn't imagine. I could I couldn't >> I couldn't imagine. I could I couldn't >> I couldn't imagine. I could I couldn't imagine. imagine. imagine. >> I couldn't. >> I couldn't. >> I couldn't. >> How do these women do it when these >> How do these women do it when these >> How do these women do it when these young women do that? young women do that? young women do that? >> Yeah. I had a a friend which she her >> Yeah. I had a a friend which she her >> Yeah. I had a a friend which she her husband was out of state and she husband was out of state and she husband was out of state and she actually went into labor actually went into labor actually went into labor >> and he unfortunately wasn't able to like >> and he unfortunately wasn't able to like >> and he unfortunately wasn't able to like come back soon you like sooner and she come back soon you like sooner and she come back soon you like sooner and she actually went into the hospital by actually went into the hospital by actually went into the hospital by herself herself herself >> had her baby by herself and was there >> had her baby by herself and was there >> had her baby by herself and was there for hours before anybody could get to for hours before anybody could get to for hours before anybody could get to her her her >> and that was just so heartbreaking >> and that was just so heartbreaking >> and that was just so heartbreaking because I was like all the things that because I was like all the things that because I was like all the things that happened to me to us happened to me to us happened to me to us >> in those hours you know those are the >> in those hours you know those are the >> in those hours you know those are the that's the time that you need someone that's the time that you need someone that's the time that you need someone the most someone just someone to lean the most someone just someone to lean the most someone just someone to lean on, someone to talk to, someone to keep on, someone to talk to, someone to keep on, someone to talk to, someone to keep pushing you through that, you know, it's pushing you through that, you know, it's pushing you through that, you know, it's such it's such a hard time. And such it's such a hard time. And such it's such a hard time. And >> I couldn't imagine being doing it alone.

>> I couldn't imagine being doing it alone. >> I couldn't imagine being doing it alone. I really couldn't. And then I really couldn't. And then I really couldn't. And then >> they cut you they cut you up. They do >> they cut you they cut you up. They do >> they cut you they cut you up. They do all types of stuff to you. They give you all types of stuff to you. They give you all types of stuff to you. They give you all types of things and and you know, all types of things and and you know, all types of things and and you know, they they they >> had asking question. They came and took >> had asking question. They came and took >> had asking question. They came and took my blood so many times. Like my m my my blood so many times. Like my m my my blood so many times. Like my m my mom, mom, mom, >> both my mothers came in >> both my mothers came in >> both my mothers came in >> and and so did my stepfather, rest his >> and and so did my stepfather, rest his >> and and so did my stepfather, rest his soul, they all came in when I was cold soul, they all came in when I was cold soul, they all came in when I was cold bluing. So they came into the hospital bluing. So they came into the hospital bluing. So they came into the hospital and was like, "We heard a code blue." and was like, "We heard a code blue." and was like, "We heard a code blue." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> It was their daughter. It was me. >> It was their daughter. It was me. >> It was their daughter. It was me. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And so when they finally got me into the >> And so when they finally got me into the >> And so when they finally got me into the ICU, because I stayed in the ICU for a ICU, because I stayed in the ICU for a ICU, because I stayed in the ICU for a couple of days. couple of days. couple of days. >> They were coming and taking my blood so >> They were coming and taking my blood so >> They were coming and taking my blood so much because the heart doctor who gave much because the heart doctor who gave much because the heart doctor who gave me the uh epinephrine, me the uh epinephrine, me the uh epinephrine, >> it damages your heart. Epinephrine >> it damages your heart. Epinephrine >> it damages your heart. Epinephrine damages your heart. Adrenaline, right? damages your heart. Adrenaline, right? damages your heart. Adrenaline, right? So when he came in, he said, "Oh my god, So when he came in, he said, "Oh my god, So when he came in, he said, "Oh my god, your daughter's healing like Wolverine." your daughter's healing like Wolverine." your daughter's healing like Wolverine." And they just started pulling my blood And they just started pulling my blood And they just started pulling my blood and and doing my blood. And my mom said, and and doing my blood. And my mom said, and and doing my blood. And my mom said, "No more." "No more." "No more." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Like, "You even need someone to say, >> Like, "You even need someone to say, >> Like, "You even need someone to say, "Hey, "Hey, "Hey, >> stop.

>> stop. >> stop. >> Why are you guys taking her blood so >> Why are you guys taking her blood so >> Why are you guys taking her blood so much?" much?" much?" >> They had around 12 nurses poking and >> They had around 12 nurses poking and >> They had around 12 nurses poking and proddding me. They had took my blood proddding me. They had took my blood proddding me. They had took my blood from every vein that they could. Like, from every vein that they could. Like, from every vein that they could. Like, they couldn't find a a good vein anymore they couldn't find a a good vein anymore they couldn't find a a good vein anymore because they're all dried out. because they're all dried out. because they're all dried out. So they finally like after like the 16th So they finally like after like the 16th So they finally like after like the 16th try to put it in my hand. I finally try to put it in my hand. I finally try to put it in my hand. I finally screamed, "Get the screamed, "Get the screamed, "Get the >> away from me right now." My husband's >> away from me right now." My husband's >> away from me right now." My husband's like, "Y'all got to go." like, "Y'all got to go." like, "Y'all got to go." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Anesthesiologist. I said, "Somebody get >> Anesthesiologist. I said, "Somebody get >> Anesthesiologist. I said, "Somebody get in here with the ultrasound machine to in here with the ultrasound machine to in here with the ultrasound machine to find a vein if y'all need it that bad. find a vein if y'all need it that bad. find a vein if y'all need it that bad. But I need all of you guys out of this But I need all of you guys out of this But I need all of you guys out of this room right now." room right now." room right now." >> Yeah. They screaming on you. >> Yeah. They screaming on you. >> Yeah. They screaming on you. >> They had they had um you know the CNAs, >> They had they had um you know the CNAs, >> They had they had um you know the CNAs, the you know not even like real like the you know not even like real like the you know not even like real like nurse nurses. They had CNAs. They had nurse nurses. They had CNAs. They had nurse nurses. They had CNAs. They had the other ones the um the the the the the other ones the um the the the the the other ones the um the the the the blood actual people who pull your blood. blood actual people who pull your blood. blood actual people who pull your blood. >> The phabotamist. They had the nurse. >> The phabotamist. They had the nurse. >> The phabotamist. They had the nurse. They all couldn't get it. They all couldn't get it. They all couldn't get it. >> And I'm sitting there. I'm trying to be >> And I'm sitting there. I'm trying to be >> And I'm sitting there. I'm trying to be quiet at first because I already know quiet at first because I already know quiet at first because I already know myself. And I'm getting to the point myself. And I'm getting to the point myself. And I'm getting to the point where y'all not giving me no pain where y'all not giving me no pain where y'all not giving me no pain medicine. Y'all not letting me eat.

medicine. Y'all not letting me eat. medicine. Y'all not letting me eat. Y'all coming in here poking and Y'all coming in here poking and Y'all coming in here poking and proddding me. Y'all gonna see you going proddding me. Y'all gonna see you going proddding me. Y'all gonna see you going to get a gut. That's crazy. to get a gut. That's crazy. to get a gut. That's crazy. >> That's insane. And that's why I said >> That's insane. And that's why I said >> That's insane. And that's why I said >> hospitals should be required >> hospitals should be required >> hospitals should be required >> to have an advocacy group or have a >> to have an advocacy group or have a >> to have an advocacy group or have a nonprofit that they partner with that is nonprofit that they partner with that is nonprofit that they partner with that is there to fulfill all needs of the there to fulfill all needs of the there to fulfill all needs of the mothers. First of all, I don't even mothers. First of all, I don't even mothers. First of all, I don't even think they know, JJ. I don't even think think they know, JJ. I don't even think think they know, JJ. I don't even think they know what the needs of mothers are. they know what the needs of mothers are. they know what the needs of mothers are. No, they don't. And most of the No, they don't. And most of the No, they don't. And most of the unfortunately most of the time these unfortunately most of the time these unfortunately most of the time these doctors are men. doctors are men. doctors are men. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> How are you going to tell me what I feel >> How are you going to tell me what I feel >> How are you going to tell me what I feel about my body? Like there's we're about my body? Like there's we're about my body? Like there's we're disconnected, completely disconnected of disconnected, completely disconnected of disconnected, completely disconnected of our needs. our needs. our needs. >> There's so many there's so >> There's so many there's so >> There's so many there's so >> if if you're watching and you're in the >> if if you're watching and you're in the >> if if you're watching and you're in the medical field, please contact the JJ medical field, please contact the JJ medical field, please contact the JJ show. Yes. JJ show and talk a little bit show. Yes. JJ show and talk a little bit show. Yes. JJ show and talk a little bit about about about >> what hospitals like are you guys >> what hospitals like are you guys >> what hospitals like are you guys required? required? required? >> Yes. to have someone there like are you >> Yes. to have someone there like are you >> Yes. to have someone there like are you guys are you guys already working with guys are you guys already working with guys are you guys already working with advocacy groups? Are you guys do you advocacy groups? Are you guys do you advocacy groups? Are you guys do you have that in play? I guarantee you you have that in play? I guarantee you you have that in play? I guarantee you you don't because there was no one I could don't because there was no one I could don't because there was no one I could reach out to.

reach out to. reach out to. >> We I didn't have anybody either. >> We I didn't have anybody either. >> We I didn't have anybody either. >> Well, I made a formal complaint with the >> Well, I made a formal complaint with the >> Well, I made a formal complaint with the hospital with the um the the liaison. hospital with the um the the liaison. hospital with the um the the liaison. They came to my room. I made a formal They came to my room. I made a formal They came to my room. I made a formal complaint. They sent a certified letter complaint. They sent a certified letter complaint. They sent a certified letter back back back >> pretty much dismissing everything that I >> pretty much dismissing everything that I >> pretty much dismissing everything that I had that I had said. had that I had said. had that I had said. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Oh. And my hospital sent me a $54,000 >> Oh. And my hospital sent me a $54,000 >> Oh. And my hospital sent me a $54,000 bill and I said, "I'm not paying a bill and I said, "I'm not paying a bill and I said, "I'm not paying a dollar." dollar." dollar." >> I'm like, "Absolutely not." >> I'm like, "Absolutely not." >> I'm like, "Absolutely not." >> Charge it to the credit and [laughter] >> Charge it to the credit and [laughter] >> Charge it to the credit and [laughter] >> do whatever. Whoever Whoever put that on >> do whatever. Whoever Whoever put that on >> do whatever. Whoever Whoever put that on her. Yeah. You going to pay for that her. Yeah. You going to pay for that her. Yeah. You going to pay for that with with with >> Yeah. I was like, "Somebody else give it >> Yeah. I was like, "Somebody else give it >> Yeah. I was like, "Somebody else give it to Let somebody else have it because to Let somebody else have it because to Let somebody else have it because it's not I'm not paying it down." it's not I'm not paying it down." it's not I'm not paying it down." >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> And I'm not saying that United >> And I'm not saying that United >> And I'm not saying that United Healthcare CEO getting killed was the Healthcare CEO getting killed was the Healthcare CEO getting killed was the right thing to do. right thing to do. right thing to do. >> Look, you you have people out here that >> Look, you you have people out here that >> Look, you you have people out here that are struggling. These CEOs, these top are struggling. These CEOs, these top are struggling. These CEOs, these top 1%s are making billions, millions of 1%s are making billions, millions of 1%s are making billions, millions of dollars while we have to settle for for dollars while we have to settle for for dollars while we have to settle for for scraps and be at each other's necks all scraps and be at each other's necks all scraps and be at each other's necks all day. day. day. >> All day. Absolutely. >> All day. Absolutely. >> All day. Absolutely. >> So, you know, I don't condone that, >> So, you know, I don't condone that, >> So, you know, I don't condone that, >> but these CEOs need to understand that >> but these CEOs need to understand that >> but these CEOs need to understand that this is not just your world. We are we this is not just your world. We are we this is not just your world. We are we are the worker ants, right, that keep it are the worker ants, right, that keep it are the worker ants, right, that keep it running. If it wasn't for us, you running. If it wasn't for us, you running. If it wasn't for us, you wouldn't be a million billionaire.

wouldn't be a million billionaire. wouldn't be a million billionaire. >> We wouldn't. No, you wouldn't be able to >> We wouldn't. No, you wouldn't be able to >> We wouldn't. No, you wouldn't be able to pull our our Medicaid money and our fund pull our our Medicaid money and our fund pull our our Medicaid money and our fund money, you know? And Luigi's are what money, you know? And Luigi's are what money, you know? And Luigi's are what happens when people become desperate. happens when people become desperate. happens when people become desperate. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And you're seeing it. If they think that >> And you're seeing it. If they think that >> And you're seeing it. If they think that crime crime crime >> and and >> and and >> and and desperation is only taking place in the desperation is only taking place in the desperation is only taking place in the projects, in the hoods of this nation, projects, in the hoods of this nation, projects, in the hoods of this nation, just wait until you see what happens just wait until you see what happens just wait until you see what happens when they continue to squeeze us from when they continue to squeeze us from when they continue to squeeze us from the bottom up. the bottom up. the bottom up. >> Yes. [clears throat] >> Yes. [clears throat] >> Yes. [clears throat] You know it is. You're creating your own You know it is. You're creating your own You know it is. You're creating your own demise and we are tired. demise and we are tired. demise and we are tired. >> We are. We most definitely are. Most >> We are. We most definitely are. Most >> We are. We most definitely are. Most definitely are. definitely are. definitely are. >> And I think having this I really thank >> And I think having this I really thank >> And I think having this I really thank you ladies very very so much for sharing you ladies very very so much for sharing you ladies very very so much for sharing your your stories and I know it's very your your stories and I know it's very your your stories and I know it's very touchy, you know, but I I felt the need touchy, you know, but I I felt the need touchy, you know, but I I felt the need to share this because we recently just to share this because we recently just to share this because we recently just saw a video not too long ago um of a saw a video not too long ago um of a saw a video not too long ago um of a woman actually getting her baby after woman actually getting her baby after woman actually getting her baby after she just had her baby in the hospital. she just had her baby in the hospital. she just had her baby in the hospital. her baby was taken away from her and her baby was taken away from her and her baby was taken away from her and she's fighting police officers while she she's fighting police officers while she she's fighting police officers while she just had a baby not even 24 hours. You just had a baby not even 24 hours. You just had a baby not even 24 hours. You know, we can't even walk. We're still in know, we can't even walk. We're still in know, we can't even walk. We're still in pain. We're still everything hurts. Why pain. We're still everything hurts. Why pain. We're still everything hurts. Why would we have to sit there and actually would we have to sit there and actually would we have to sit there and actually go through something like that?

go through something like that? go through something like that? >> Imagine. >> Imagine. >> Imagine. >> Yes. And then, you know, they send >> Yes. And then, you know, they send >> Yes. And then, you know, they send people home. They dismiss us all the people home. They dismiss us all the people home. They dismiss us all the time. Another lady actually had her baby time. Another lady actually had her baby time. Another lady actually had her baby in the car on on her way back to the in the car on on her way back to the in the car on on her way back to the hospital after getting hospital after getting hospital after getting >> They kicked her out. They kicked her >> They kicked her out. They kicked her >> They kicked her out. They kicked her out. out. out. >> They said that there's nothing that they >> They said that there's nothing that they >> They said that there's nothing that they can do. So she d she was driving to can do. So she d she was driving to can do. So she d she was driving to another hospital, had the baby in the another hospital, had the baby in the another hospital, had the baby in the car car car >> in the car while a a typhoon is outside. >> in the car while a a typhoon is outside. >> in the car while a a typhoon is outside. [clears throat] [clears throat] [clears throat] >> And you know I you know this is why I >> And you know I you know this is why I >> And you know I you know this is why I love to educate America on love to educate America on love to educate America on >> again systemic, right? Like there's a >> again systemic, right? Like there's a >> again systemic, right? Like there's a history of Americans taking um history of Americans taking um history of Americans taking um indigenous people's kids. Yes. Yes. indigenous people's kids. Yes. Yes. indigenous people's kids. Yes. Yes. >> There's a history of there's a history >> There's a history of there's a history >> There's a history of there's a history of Americans taking black people's kids of Americans taking black people's kids of Americans taking black people's kids and they're doing it now to migrants, and they're doing it now to migrants, and they're doing it now to migrants, taking their kids taking their kids taking their kids >> all the time. >> all the time. >> all the time. >> So when when you see something like >> So when when you see something like >> So when when you see something like that, that that is very huge. I just that, that that is very huge. I just that, that that is very huge. I just drove to Leon County, two hours away. drove to Leon County, two hours away. drove to Leon County, two hours away. It's Centerville. I drove two hours away It's Centerville. I drove two hours away It's Centerville. I drove two hours away because on my way to cover the Universal because on my way to cover the Universal because on my way to cover the Universal Kids opening, I got pulled over because Kids opening, I got pulled over because Kids opening, I got pulled over because my front license plate was off. My my front license plate was off. My my front license plate was off. My husband forgot to put it back on and I husband forgot to put it back on and I husband forgot to put it back on and I got pulled over with my mom and my two got pulled over with my mom and my two got pulled over with my mom and my two kids in the car.

kids in the car. kids in the car. >> My son has high anxiety whenever he, you >> My son has high anxiety whenever he, you >> My son has high anxiety whenever he, you know, because of YouTube, know, because of YouTube, know, because of YouTube, >> he sees, you know, a police pulling >> he sees, you know, a police pulling >> he sees, you know, a police pulling someone's over. He's thinking mommy's someone's over. He's thinking mommy's someone's over. He's thinking mommy's going to go to jail. going to go to jail. going to go to jail. >> And so he unbuckles himself and so does >> And so he unbuckles himself and so does >> And so he unbuckles himself and so does his sister. his sister. his sister. >> Oh. And when she pulls me over, you >> Oh. And when she pulls me over, you >> Oh. And when she pulls me over, you know, she t tells me, "Let my window know, she t tells me, "Let my window know, she t tells me, "Let my window down." After she talks to me about my my down." After she talks to me about my my down." After she talks to me about my my license plate and stuff, she said, "Let license plate and stuff, she said, "Let license plate and stuff, she said, "Let your window down in the back to see your window down in the back to see your window down in the back to see who's in the car." I let them down. I who's in the car." I let them down. I who's in the car." I let them down. I was like, "It's just my kids." And she was like, "It's just my kids." And she was like, "It's just my kids." And she was like, "They're not buckled. I'm was like, "They're not buckled. I'm was like, "They're not buckled. I'm going to give you a child safety going to give you a child safety going to give you a child safety endangerment ticket." [clears throat] endangerment ticket." [clears throat] endangerment ticket." [clears throat] >> Oh my gosh. >> Oh my gosh. >> Oh my gosh. >> I said, "Hey, wait a minute." >> I said, "Hey, wait a minute." >> I said, "Hey, wait a minute." >> Yeah. No. >> Yeah. No. >> Yeah. No. >> I was like, "Yeah, go." Yeah. I was >> I was like, "Yeah, go." Yeah. I was >> I was like, "Yeah, go." Yeah. I was like, I explained it to her and my son like, I explained it to her and my son like, I explained it to her and my son was like, "Oh my god, is my mom going to was like, "Oh my god, is my mom going to was like, "Oh my god, is my mom going to go to jail?" And and I was like, "No, go to jail?" And and I was like, "No, go to jail?" And and I was like, "No, baby. Calm down." I told my mom, she baby. Calm down." I told my mom, she baby. Calm down." I told my mom, she gave me the ticket for a month later. I gave me the ticket for a month later. I gave me the ticket for a month later. I said, "August 3rd, I will be there said, "August 3rd, I will be there said, "August 3rd, I will be there because what you're not going to do is because what you're not going to do is because what you're not going to do is put on record that I had my kids put on record that I had my kids put on record that I had my kids endangered and now you have CPS coming endangered and now you have CPS coming endangered and now you have CPS coming after me for my children." No, after me for my children." No, after me for my children." No, >> we're not going to do that. >> we're not going to do that. >> we're not going to do that. >> We're not We're not going down that >> We're not We're not going down that >> We're not We're not going down that rabbit hole because of an assumption, rabbit hole because of an assumption, rabbit hole because of an assumption, you know, like, "No, absolutely."

you know, like, "No, absolutely." you know, like, "No, absolutely." >> So, I thankfully I beat that that case. >> So, I thankfully I beat that that case. >> So, I thankfully I beat that that case. It was completely dismissed. It was It was completely dismissed. It was It was completely dismissed. It was asinine that she even gave me a ticket asinine that she even gave me a ticket asinine that she even gave me a ticket for that with my 68-year-old mother in for that with my 68-year-old mother in for that with my 68-year-old mother in the car. I was like, "Do you think I the car. I was like, "Do you think I the car. I was like, "Do you think I would not buckle my kids in? My mother's would not buckle my kids in? My mother's would not buckle my kids in? My mother's here. We're buckled kids. Everybody's here. We're buckled kids. Everybody's here. We're buckled kids. Everybody's buckled in here. We're traveling, buckled in here. We're traveling, buckled in here. We're traveling, >> you know." But then that's what And I >> you know." But then that's what And I >> you know." But then that's what And I always say, I look at us and I say to always say, I look at us and I say to always say, I look at us and I say to myself sometimes like this is you can't myself sometimes like this is you can't myself sometimes like this is you can't talk about mental health without talking talk about mental health without talking talk about mental health without talking about our experiences here as Americans about our experiences here as Americans about our experiences here as Americans in this country. We are Americans in in this country. We are Americans in in this country. We are Americans in this country. this country. this country. >> We are. We are. We have rights. >> We are. We are. We have rights. >> We are. We are. We have rights. >> I'm more American than Africaname. And >> I'm more American than Africaname. And >> I'm more American than Africaname. And this is what the argument that black this is what the argument that black this is what the argument that black people have with other black people is people have with other black people is people have with other black people is that how am I Africanamean if the last that how am I Africanamean if the last that how am I Africanamean if the last three generations of my family have been three generations of my family have been three generations of my family have been here here here >> now we're in I don't know I don't know >> now we're in I don't know I don't know >> now we're in I don't know I don't know what tribe I don't know whose family is what tribe I don't know whose family is what tribe I don't know whose family is still out there. I have no clue if I still out there. I have no clue if I still out there. I have no clue if I even still have roots there.

even still have roots there. even still have roots there. >> And I have you know a lot to say about >> And I have you know a lot to say about >> And I have you know a lot to say about police. So I'll I'll probably just be police. So I'll I'll probably just be police. So I'll I'll probably just be quiet on that one. That's going to be quiet on that one. That's going to be quiet on that one. That's going to be another segment. another segment. another segment. >> Yeah. Thank you for that point though >> Yeah. Thank you for that point though >> Yeah. Thank you for that point though because a lot of a lot of Americans because a lot of a lot of Americans because a lot of a lot of Americans period same thing with Mexicanameans and period same thing with Mexicanameans and period same thing with Mexicanameans and Hispanic Americans. Latino Americans Hispanic Americans. Latino Americans Hispanic Americans. Latino Americans same thing. same thing. same thing. >> Yeah. They're like, "Hey, uh I I'm three >> Yeah. They're like, "Hey, uh I I'm three >> Yeah. They're like, "Hey, uh I I'm three I'm not first generation. I'm like five I'm not first generation. I'm like five I'm not first generation. I'm like five five generations. It's me and my mom five generations. It's me and my mom five generations. It's me and my mom Americans, right? Americans, right? Americans, right? >> They just say American >> They just say American >> They just say American say European American. say European American. say European American. >> They don't. >> They don't. >> They don't. >> They don't say South African American. >> They don't say South African American. >> They don't say South African American. >> South African American. For the ones >> South African American. For the ones >> South African American. For the ones that just came over here, that just came over here, that just came over here, >> they don't. They don't. They don't do >> they don't. They don't. They don't do >> they don't. They don't. They don't do that. that. that. >> No, but they categorize us into these >> No, but they categorize us into these >> No, but they categorize us into these categories and then make us feel less categories and then make us feel less categories and then make us feel less of, you know, and that's where it comes. of, you know, and that's where it comes. of, you know, and that's where it comes. That's where that oppression really That's where that oppression really That's where that oppression really starts coming in. starts coming in. starts coming in. >> And that's where the that's where the >> And that's where the that's where the >> And that's where the that's where the psychological psychological psychological psychological psychological psychological >> that's why your doctor that was African >> that's why your doctor that was African >> that's why your doctor that was African was like, I'm not listening to you was like, I'm not listening to you was like, I'm not listening to you because that's a train, because that's a train, because that's a train, you know? you know? you know? >> Yes. You're stronger. >> Yes. You're stronger. >> Yes. You're stronger. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Like, no, no, I feel pain. If I hit >> Like, no, no, I feel pain. If I hit >> Like, no, no, I feel pain. If I hit myself here, I'm gonna feel that pain.

myself here, I'm gonna feel that pain. myself here, I'm gonna feel that pain. >> Like, that's that's what it is. End of >> Like, that's that's what it is. End of >> Like, that's that's what it is. End of story. like help me, treat me, you know, story. like help me, treat me, you know, story. like help me, treat me, you know, like I really do feel like I was even like I really do feel like I was even like I really do feel like I was even looking into like water births, home looking into like water births, home looking into like water births, home births, you know, after births, you know, after births, you know, after I would have loved that, I would have loved that, I would have loved that, >> especially in my first pregnancy. But, >> especially in my first pregnancy. But, >> especially in my first pregnancy. But, you know, being in um an older, it's an you know, being in um an older, it's an you know, being in um an older, it's an older town. It used to be a sundown older town. It used to be a sundown older town. It used to be a sundown town. town. town. >> So, I already knew what I already knew >> So, I already knew what I already knew >> So, I already knew what I already knew before I went in there that they were before I went in there that they were before I went in there that they were going to give me a C-section. going to give me a C-section. going to give me a C-section. >> That they were going to Oh, yeah. And I >> That they were going to Oh, yeah. And I >> That they were going to Oh, yeah. And I just knew that I was going to have the just knew that I was going to have the just knew that I was going to have the best pregnancy. No epidural. I have this best pregnancy. No epidural. I have this best pregnancy. No epidural. I have this have been the best, you know, pregnancy. have been the best, you know, pregnancy. have been the best, you know, pregnancy. I'm going to have the best delivery. I I'm going to have the best delivery. I I'm going to have the best delivery. I mean, and it just turned left right at mean, and it just turned left right at mean, and it just turned left right at the last minute. the last minute. the last minute. >> Me, too. The last minute. >> Me, too. The last minute. >> Me, too. The last minute. >> Can I ask y'all for myself and for other >> Can I ask y'all for myself and for other >> Can I ask y'all for myself and for other mothers that could be watching this, mothers that could be watching this, mothers that could be watching this, >> what did you how do you guys take care >> what did you how do you guys take care >> what did you how do you guys take care of your mental health and and stay of your mental health and and stay of your mental health and and stay sustained? sustained? sustained? >> Um, especially you visits. >> Um, especially you visits. >> Um, especially you visits. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So, therapy. >> So, therapy. >> So, therapy. >> Therapy. Um, I do I have ADHD really >> Therapy. Um, I do I have ADHD really >> Therapy. Um, I do I have ADHD really bad, so I take um medicine for ADHD and bad, so I take um medicine for ADHD and bad, so I take um medicine for ADHD and I'm right there. You know, I'm right there. You know, I'm right there. You know, >> we are there.

>> we are there. >> we are there. >> You know, hormones real crazy. I was >> You know, hormones real crazy. I was >> You know, hormones real crazy. I was taking anti-depressants for the last taking anti-depressants for the last taking anti-depressants for the last like 3 months and then I'm weaning off like 3 months and then I'm weaning off like 3 months and then I'm weaning off of him because I'm starting to feel a of him because I'm starting to feel a of him because I'm starting to feel a little bit better. So, you know, having little bit better. So, you know, having little bit better. So, you know, having um my husband is my rock when it comes um my husband is my rock when it comes um my husband is my rock when it comes to a lot of things. So having him to to a lot of things. So having him to to a lot of things. So having him to talk to, laugh with, just make things talk to, laugh with, just make things talk to, laugh with, just make things lighter because I make things so heavy. lighter because I make things so heavy. lighter because I make things so heavy. >> But I don't mean to. >> But I don't mean to. >> But I don't mean to. >> Shout out to the writer. >> Shout out to the writer. >> Shout out to the writer. >> Shout out to the writer. >> Shout out to the writer. >> Shout out to the writer. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Yes. The support. Yeah. And it's not >> Yes. The support. Yeah. And it's not >> Yes. The support. Yeah. And it's not even that. I almost feel like once we're even that. I almost feel like once we're even that. I almost feel like once we're in it, I feel like the the postpartum in it, I feel like the the postpartum in it, I feel like the the postpartum depression that you get afterwards, depression that you get afterwards, depression that you get afterwards, first of all, it's so real. I feel like first of all, it's so real. I feel like first of all, it's so real. I feel like every woman goes through it. I had it. I every woman goes through it. I had it. I every woman goes through it. I had it. I know you had it. You had it. Probably know you had it. You had it. Probably know you had it. You had it. Probably everybody. My mom had it. Everybody has everybody. My mom had it. Everybody has everybody. My mom had it. Everybody has it. It's so crucial in those moments it. It's so crucial in those moments it. It's so crucial in those moments like people don't understand you in in like people don't understand you in in like people don't understand you in in the in the sense of like I'm going the in the sense of like I'm going the in the sense of like I'm going through hormones. I have to care for my through hormones. I have to care for my through hormones. I have to care for my baby and care for myself and care for baby and care for myself and care for baby and care for myself and care for the the rest of the house and the the rest of the house and the the rest of the house and >> work and we can't move like that. And I >> work and we can't move like that. And I >> work and we can't move like that. And I feel like we really at in those moments feel like we really at in those moments feel like we really at in those moments >> I wish that everybody would have >> I wish that everybody would have >> I wish that everybody would have >> a support group, >> a support group, >> a support group, >> some type of like you're saying a a >> some type of like you're saying a a >> some type of like you're saying a a group where we feel safe and we feel group where we feel safe and we feel group where we feel safe and we feel like our needs are actually normal. It's like our needs are actually normal. It's like our needs are actually normal. It's not something out of this world that not something out of this world that not something out of this world that we're like asking for too much or we're we're like asking for too much or we're we're like asking for too much or we're like it shouldn't we should not feel like it shouldn't we should not feel like it shouldn't we should not feel like that. We should feel so empowered like that. We should feel so empowered like that. We should feel so empowered to the to the fact that we're great to the to the fact that we're great to the to the fact that we're great mothers first of all. We're great women mothers first of all. We're great women mothers first of all. We're great women because we're women because we're mother because we're women because we're mother because we're women because we're mother we're women first and then mother we're women first and then mother we're women first and then mother second. I feel like we have to do that second. I feel like we have to do that second. I feel like we have to do that and and it's so crucial, you know, to

and and it's so crucial, you know, to and and it's so crucial, you know, to have that support in those times. And have that support in those times. And have that support in those times. And >> a lot of people don't have it >> a lot of people don't have it >> a lot of people don't have it unfortunately. A lot of people I've gone unfortunately. A lot of people I've gone unfortunately. A lot of people I've gone through, you know, the postpartum through, you know, the postpartum through, you know, the postpartum struggle. I've gone through the the struggle. I've gone through the the struggle. I've gone through the the weight gain and the everything else. weight gain and the everything else. weight gain and the everything else. Like, let's not talk about it at all. Like, let's not talk about it at all. Like, let's not talk about it at all. >> I've been >> I've been >> I've been still trying to get that. I remember you still trying to get that. I remember you still trying to get that. I remember you bringing that little baby on the little bringing that little baby on the little bringing that little baby on the little carrier with you and I used to see all carrier with you and I used to see all carrier with you and I used to see all the time like, "Dang, she's strong." the time like, "Dang, she's strong." the time like, "Dang, she's strong." Because it's hard to do that Because it's hard to do that Because it's hard to do that get up, ask questions, and be riding and get up, ask questions, and be riding and get up, ask questions, and be riding and doing doing doing >> multitasking, putting a bib in a bottle >> multitasking, putting a bib in a bottle >> multitasking, putting a bib in a bottle and a diaper change. And you know, we go and a diaper change. And you know, we go and a diaper change. And you know, we go through so much, you know, and I really through so much, you know, and I really through so much, you know, and I really feel like we, like you said, we need feel like we, like you said, we need feel like we, like you said, we need more support groups, especially in those more support groups, especially in those more support groups, especially in those postpartum times. We need to follow up postpartum times. We need to follow up postpartum times. We need to follow up with the moms and be like, "What do you with the moms and be like, "What do you with the moms and be like, "What do you need help in, man? Make frozen meals. need help in, man? Make frozen meals. need help in, man? Make frozen meals. Make Make Make >> this virtual, right? >> this virtual, right? >> this virtual, right? >> Somebody talk to." Yes. That that feels >> Somebody talk to." Yes. That that feels >> Somebody talk to." Yes. That that feels what I'm feeling that it's another what I'm feeling that it's another what I'm feeling that it's another woman, another mother, you know, woman, another mother, you know, woman, another mother, you know, speaking on on the same things, on the speaking on on the same things, on the speaking on on the same things, on the similar things that we've had. This is similar things that we've had. This is similar things that we've had. This is why this this is so important. this why this this is so important. this why this this is so important. this conversation that we're having, black, conversation that we're having, black, conversation that we're having, black, brown, any color that you really are.

brown, any color that you really are. brown, any color that you really are. Mothers go through a lot and we should Mothers go through a lot and we should Mothers go through a lot and we should not sit there and and neglect ourselves not sit there and and neglect ourselves not sit there and and neglect ourselves >> and not voice ourselves, you know, >> and not voice ourselves, you know, >> and not voice ourselves, you know, because it's like they do it in the because it's like they do it in the because it's like they do it in the hospital. You said you asked for for hospital. You said you asked for for hospital. You said you asked for for pain medicine and this and that and pain medicine and this and that and pain medicine and this and that and they're like, "Oh, you're okay." they're like, "Oh, you're okay." they're like, "Oh, you're okay." >> It's not that. It's not that you. >> It's not that. It's not that you. >> It's not that. It's not that you. Someone has to be there to be like, Someone has to be there to be like, Someone has to be there to be like, "Hey, she needs this." Like, "You need "Hey, she needs this." Like, "You need "Hey, she needs this." Like, "You need to go do something, but she needs this." to go do something, but she needs this." to go do something, but she needs this." like and and be that stern person in like and and be that stern person in like and and be that stern person in there, you know, and back up and that there, you know, and back up and that there, you know, and back up and that backbone. And afterwards, even backbone. And afterwards, even backbone. And afterwards, even afterwards, you know, even if it is with afterwards, you know, even if it is with afterwards, you know, even if it is with lawyers, even if it is with, you know, lawyers, even if it is with, you know, lawyers, even if it is with, you know, support groups, support groups, support groups, >> support to get those lawyers or support >> support to get those lawyers or support >> support to get those lawyers or support to go get medical records or just a to go get medical records or just a to go get medical records or just a phone call, a video chat, maybe somebody phone call, a video chat, maybe somebody phone call, a video chat, maybe somebody can help come help you clean your house, can help come help you clean your house, can help come help you clean your house, come dinner, have midw midwives after, come dinner, have midw midwives after, come dinner, have midw midwives after, you know, the support afterwards is you know, the support afterwards is you know, the support afterwards is what's so important. what's so important. what's so important. >> The support afterwards is good. It is >> The support afterwards is good. It is >> The support afterwards is good. It is most definitely. most definitely. most definitely. >> And I'm glad that you said, you know, >> And I'm glad that you said, you know, >> And I'm glad that you said, you know, black, brown, white, indifferent, white, black, brown, white, indifferent, white, black, brown, white, indifferent, white, white women. You're white women. You're white women. You're >> y'all die too. >> y'all die too. >> y'all die too. >> Yeah, they do. Not as much as we do. >> Yeah, they do. Not as much as we do. >> Yeah, they do. Not as much as we do. >> Not at the rate that we do.

>> Not at the rate that we do. >> Not at the rate that we do. >> Not at the rate we do, but you guys die, >> Not at the rate we do, but you guys die, >> Not at the rate we do, but you guys die, too. This is your fight, too. too. This is your fight, too. too. This is your fight, too. >> It is. >> It is. >> It is. >> I I just we before we were on air, we >> I I just we before we were on air, we >> I I just we before we were on air, we were talking about how the data was not were talking about how the data was not were talking about how the data was not being collected in Mississippi, who had being collected in Mississippi, who had being collected in Mississippi, who had the highest uh mortality rates for the highest uh mortality rates for the highest uh mortality rates for babies of uh infant mortalities. babies of uh infant mortalities. babies of uh infant mortalities. 9.6 and the whole average was so high. 9.6 and the whole average was so high. 9.6 and the whole average was so high. Black women of course were 15.2 course. Black women of course were 15.2 course. Black women of course were 15.2 course. Uh the Hispanic women I think they were Uh the Hispanic women I think they were Uh the Hispanic women I think they were around like seven and then white women around like seven and then white women around like seven and then white women were 5.8 of their babies who die. Your were 5.8 of their babies who die. Your were 5.8 of their babies who die. Your babies are dying too. And they're babies are dying too. And they're babies are dying too. And they're getting rid of your hospitals and taking getting rid of your hospitals and taking getting rid of your hospitals and taking away of your resources in your small away of your resources in your small away of your resources in your small towns too. towns too. towns too. >> This is not a race issue. >> This is not a race issue. >> This is not a race issue. >> It's not a race when it comes to >> It's not a race when it comes to >> It's not a race when it comes to sticking together. sticking together. sticking together. >> Yeah. When it comes to support for >> Yeah. When it comes to support for >> Yeah. When it comes to support for mothers, this is a race issue when it mothers, this is a race issue when it mothers, this is a race issue when it comes to how the hospitals are treating comes to how the hospitals are treating comes to how the hospitals are treating us and killing us and killing our us and killing us and killing our us and killing us and killing our babies. babies. babies. >> But when it comes to support for >> But when it comes to support for >> But when it comes to support for mothers, you too mothers, you too mothers, you too >> need to advocate, rally behind and use >> need to advocate, rally behind and use >> need to advocate, rally behind and use your voice as a mother.

your voice as a mother. your voice as a mother. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Cuz I don't care if we if there was a >> Cuz I don't care if we if there was a >> Cuz I don't care if we if there was a support group and I called somebody and support group and I called somebody and support group and I called somebody and it was a white woman that came help me it was a white woman that came help me it was a white woman that came help me clean up and do something, I wouldn't clean up and do something, I wouldn't clean up and do something, I wouldn't give a damn. I don't care at that point. give a damn. I don't care at that point. give a damn. I don't care at that point. Just needs some help. That's it. That's Just needs some help. That's it. That's Just needs some help. That's it. That's all we need was help. all we need was help. all we need was help. >> And we talked off air before too about >> And we talked off air before too about >> And we talked off air before too about how we're at each other's necks. They how we're at each other's necks. They how we're at each other's necks. They want us all to be to be so, you know, want us all to be to be so, you know, want us all to be to be so, you know, separated, you know, separated, separated, you know, separated, separated, you know, separated, >> but we're going through the same things. >> but we're going through the same things. >> but we're going through the same things. >> And don't allow what we say black pe >> And don't allow what we say black pe >> And don't allow what we say black pe black women are going through this. That black women are going through this. That black women are going through this. That is facts. is facts. is facts. >> Don't get don't think that we're >> Don't get don't think that we're >> Don't get don't think that we're negating what you went through. This negating what you went through. This negating what you went through. This goes back to the all lives matter or goes back to the all lives matter or goes back to the all lives matter or black lives matter. black lives matter. black lives matter. >> No, >> No, >> No, >> we know that all lives matter. We do. >> we know that all lives matter. We do. >> we know that all lives matter. We do. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> I never thought like that that was going >> I never thought like that that was going >> I never thought like that that was going to be how big that it was. to be how big that it was. to be how big that it was. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. All lives matter. >> Yes. All lives matter. >> Yes. All lives matter. >> But right now, we're not focused on >> But right now, we're not focused on >> But right now, we're not focused on black and brown lives. black and brown lives. black and brown lives. >> We're speaking on a specific problem >> We're speaking on a specific problem >> We're speaking on a specific problem going on on a daily. going on on a daily. going on on a daily. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> In regards to all aspects, hospitals, >> In regards to all aspects, hospitals, >> In regards to all aspects, hospitals, police, jails. Yes. Oh, children.

police, jails. Yes. Oh, children. police, jails. Yes. Oh, children. >> Children, schools. >> Children, schools. >> Children, schools. >> I mean, it's >> I mean, it's >> I mean, it's raising in Conro, but but the billions raising in Conro, but but the billions raising in Conro, but but the billions of dollars that you guys could use to of dollars that you guys could use to of dollars that you guys could use to help these kids read is what you should help these kids read is what you should help these kids read is what you should have spent that money on. have spent that money on. have spent that money on. >> Like third or fourth grade, like third >> Like third or fourth grade, like third >> Like third or fourth grade, like third or fourth grade, if if kids aren't or fourth grade, if if kids aren't or fourth grade, if if kids aren't reading at the right level, they it's a reading at the right level, they it's a reading at the right level, they it's a school to prison pipeline. They make a school to prison pipeline. They make a school to prison pipeline. They make a they make a prison in the area because they make a prison in the area because they make a prison in the area because they know when them kids grow up that they know when them kids grow up that they know when them kids grow up that that's going to be straight straight that's going to be straight straight that's going to be straight straight there. there. there. >> Yeah. And that's billions of dollars. >> Yeah. And that's billions of dollars. >> Yeah. And that's billions of dollars. >> That's billions of dollars. >> That's billions of dollars. >> That's billions of dollars. >> And then you you know and the prison >> And then you you know and the prison >> And then you you know and the prison system is just horrible in its aspect system is just horrible in its aspect system is just horrible in its aspect and it's supposed to be and it's supposed to be and it's supposed to be >> reform. You're supposed to reform in >> reform. You're supposed to reform in >> reform. You're supposed to reform in prison, but there's no reformation prison, but there's no reformation prison, but there's no reformation happening in prison. Right. The happening in prison. Right. The happening in prison. Right. The recidivism rate when people get out is recidivism rate when people get out is recidivism rate when people get out is so high because you you most people so high because you you most people so high because you you most people >> that you don't equip them >> that you don't equip them >> that you don't equip them >> when they go in and you don't equip when >> when they go in and you don't equip when >> when they go in and you don't equip when they come out. they come out. they come out. >> Come out. Yeah. You have to give them >> Come out. Yeah. You have to give them >> Come out. Yeah. You have to give them the tools the tools the tools >> instead. You set them up to return. >> instead. You set them up to return. >> instead. You set them up to return. >> Parole probation. >> Parole probation. >> Parole probation. >> Tell them like prime example gang >> Tell them like prime example gang >> Tell them like prime example gang affiliates. The reason why and that's affiliates. The reason why and that's affiliates. The reason why and that's another thing too. It's like learning another thing too. It's like learning another thing too. It's like learning each other's culture. Me and JJ talks each other's culture. Me and JJ talks each other's culture. Me and JJ talks about we talk about this all the time.

about we talk about this all the time. about we talk about this all the time. >> We you have to learn other people's >> We you have to learn other people's >> We you have to learn other people's culture. The reason why a black or brown culture. The reason why a black or brown culture. The reason why a black or brown kid is in a gang to begin with is kid is in a gang to begin with is kid is in a gang to begin with is because they don't have family. So when because they don't have family. So when because they don't have family. So when you tell them they get out of prison and you tell them they get out of prison and you tell them they get out of prison and you tell them you cannot be around any you tell them you cannot be around any you tell them you cannot be around any gangs, where do they go? gangs, where do they go? gangs, where do they go? >> Cuz they cuz that was their family. >> Cuz they cuz that was their family. >> Cuz they cuz that was their family. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So why haven't you set them up >> So why haven't you set them up >> So why haven't you set them up >> with a place to go with a family to be >> with a place to go with a family to be >> with a place to go with a family to be with? with? with? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> When they get out of prison. No, you >> When they get out of prison. No, you >> When they get out of prison. No, you just released them back into their old just released them back into their old just released them back into their old set so you can return them back to the set so you can return them back to the set so you can return them back to the prison and continue to make money prison and continue to make money prison and continue to make money >> and and do the same cycle. It's a >> and and do the same cycle. It's a >> and and do the same cycle. It's a complete cycle. complete cycle. complete cycle. >> But our food, look at our our food. They >> But our food, look at our our food. They >> But our food, look at our our food. They added uh uh three more F forever added uh uh three more F forever added uh uh three more F forever chemicals that have us up to five chemicals that have us up to five chemicals that have us up to five forever chemicals now that is in our forever chemicals now that is in our forever chemicals now that is in our food are our the gas prices. You guys, food are our the gas prices. You guys, food are our the gas prices. You guys, again, I'm appealing to all white people again, I'm appealing to all white people again, I'm appealing to all white people now. Like we're we're having the same now. Like we're we're having the same now. Like we're we're having the same problem problem problem >> issues. The same issues. Your gas is the >> issues. The same issues. Your gas is the >> issues. The same issues. Your gas is the same at that gas station that I go to, same at that gas station that I go to, same at that gas station that I go to, no matter what neighborhood you live in. no matter what neighborhood you live in. no matter what neighborhood you live in. >> That's it. >> That's it. >> That's it. >> That's it. >> That's it. >> That's it. >> The groceries are probably a little more >> The groceries are probably a little more >> The groceries are probably a little more expensive in your neighborhood, expensive in your neighborhood, expensive in your neighborhood, >> but it's still the same. Still the >> but it's still the same. Still the >> but it's still the same. Still the chemicals.

chemicals. chemicals. >> We got them outbreaks going on right >> We got them outbreaks going on right >> We got them outbreaks going on right now. now. now. >> Oh my goodness. You can't eat anything >> Oh my goodness. You can't eat anything >> Oh my goodness. You can't eat anything now. No lettuce. No lettuce. Cilantro. now. No lettuce. No lettuce. Cilantro. now. No lettuce. No lettuce. Cilantro. I'm like, dang, that was I'm like, dang, that was I'm like, dang, that was >> everything. Everything green that we >> everything. Everything green that we >> everything. Everything green that we >> especially being here, man. Everything. >> especially being here, man. Everything. >> especially being here, man. Everything. just went like vegetarian for like 3 just went like vegetarian for like 3 just went like vegetarian for like 3 weeks weeks weeks >> and then we we go back to eat meat and >> and then we we go back to eat meat and >> and then we we go back to eat meat and then all of a sudden then all of a sudden then all of a sudden >> cycle and I'm like oh no this is this is >> cycle and I'm like oh no this is this is >> cycle and I'm like oh no this is this is not good and it's real. My son asks me not good and it's real. My son asks me not good and it's real. My son asks me every single day whenever he sees any every single day whenever he sees any every single day whenever he sees any type of lettuce or any type of grapes. type of lettuce or any type of grapes. type of lettuce or any type of grapes. This is not the explosive diarrhea one. This is not the explosive diarrhea one. This is not the explosive diarrhea one. Huh? Huh? Huh? >> This ain't the sick one, right? Is it? >> This ain't the sick one, right? Is it? >> This ain't the sick one, right? Is it? [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> No, it definitely is. I do want to give >> No, it definitely is. I do want to give >> No, it definitely is. I do want to give you a couple of just the stats. Um, you you a couple of just the stats. Um, you you a couple of just the stats. Um, you know, talking about what we've talked know, talking about what we've talked know, talking about what we've talked about the maternity. about the maternity. about the maternity. >> Um, so black maternal mortality rates >> Um, so black maternal mortality rates >> Um, so black maternal mortality rates are uh three times higher than the white are uh three times higher than the white are uh three times higher than the white woman. So we've been speaking about how woman. So we've been speaking about how woman. So we've been speaking about how >> we really do get hit. You guys get hit a >> we really do get hit. You guys get hit a >> we really do get hit. You guys get hit a lot more than we do even Hispanics, you lot more than we do even Hispanics, you lot more than we do even Hispanics, you know, and and I just it was very know, and and I just it was very know, and and I just it was very alarming to see that because it's three alarming to see that because it's three alarming to see that because it's three times the rate times the rate times the rate >> of anyone, you know, go walking into a >> of anyone, you know, go walking into a >> of anyone, you know, go walking into a hospital, which which it breaks my hospital, which which it breaks my hospital, which which it breaks my heart. Um, Native Americans also, heart. Um, Native Americans also, heart. Um, Native Americans also, they're at 121 deaths per 100,000 babies they're at 121 deaths per 100,000 babies they're at 121 deaths per 100,000 babies that are born.

that are born. that are born. >> They're up there, too. So, we're not >> They're up there, too. So, we're not >> They're up there, too. So, we're not just specifically talking about just one just specifically talking about just one just specifically talking about just one race or two race or three. It's all of race or two race or three. It's all of race or two race or three. It's all of us collectively, you know. Um, us collectively, you know. Um, us collectively, you know. Um, >> uh, Asians, Asian women stand at the 18% >> uh, Asians, Asian women stand at the 18% >> uh, Asians, Asian women stand at the 18% per um, every 100,000 children as well. per um, every 100,000 children as well. per um, every 100,000 children as well. So, every all of us are up up there in So, every all of us are up up there in So, every all of us are up up there in numbers. It's over the 10%, you know. numbers. It's over the 10%, you know. numbers. It's over the 10%, you know. So, one in 10 women that go in there, So, one in 10 women that go in there, So, one in 10 women that go in there, something's happening, you know, and we something's happening, you know, and we something's happening, you know, and we have to speak on this, you know, we have to speak on this, you know, we have to speak on this, you know, we can't stay quiet anymore. can't stay quiet anymore. can't stay quiet anymore. >> Um, and we were actually talking about >> Um, and we were actually talking about >> Um, and we were actually talking about how you're very educated. You you've had how you're very educated. You you've had how you're very educated. You you've had degrees and you have all of this. This degrees and you have all of this. This degrees and you have all of this. This is the next one here. is the next one here. is the next one here. >> College educated black mothers mothers >> College educated black mothers mothers >> College educated black mothers mothers will face higher mortality rates than will face higher mortality rates than will face higher mortality rates than the white mothers without the with with the white mothers without the with with the white mothers without the with with a high school diploma. a high school diploma. a high school diploma. >> Right. Yeah. >> Right. Yeah. >> Right. Yeah. >> And the risks that they reach are 63 63 >> And the risks that they reach are 63 63 >> And the risks that they reach are 63 63 62% more than the other mothers. 62% more than the other mothers. 62% more than the other mothers. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's mindblowing. It doesn't matter your >> It's mindblowing. It doesn't matter your >> It's mindblowing. It doesn't matter your education. They're treating us all education. They're treating us all education. They're treating us all alike. alike. alike. >> They when you are educated and then they >> They when you are educated and then they >> They when you are educated and then they know that they try to do more things to know that they try to do more things to know that they try to do more things to belittle you, to make you feel like belittle you, to make you feel like belittle you, to make you feel like >> less of.

>> less of. >> less of. >> Yeah. Because oh, I don't care if you >> Yeah. Because oh, I don't care if you >> Yeah. Because oh, I don't care if you got an education. We're still in control got an education. We're still in control got an education. We're still in control of your of your bodily autonomy right of your of your bodily autonomy right of your of your bodily autonomy right now. now. now. >> Yes. Yeah. >> Yes. Yeah. >> Yes. Yeah. >> So, it's a power thing. It is. >> So, it's a power thing. It is. >> So, it's a power thing. It is. >> It's in It's a control thing. >> It's in It's a control thing. >> It's in It's a control thing. >> It is. >> It is. >> It is. >> And it's >> And it's >> And it's >> and use us as experiments. You know, we >> and use us as experiments. You know, we >> and use us as experiments. You know, we have been huge shout out to Henry at have been huge shout out to Henry at have been huge shout out to Henry at Aluge. You know, they they use us as Aluge. You know, they they use us as Aluge. You know, they they use us as experiments. You know, they use our experiments. You know, they use our experiments. You know, they use our bodies as experiments. Um it is just it bodies as experiments. Um it is just it bodies as experiments. Um it is just it is so is so is so >> it is a huge psychological warfare. And >> it is a huge psychological warfare. And >> it is a huge psychological warfare. And this is this is something that is in this is this is something that is in this is this is something that is in training, you know, and I would love, training, you know, and I would love, training, you know, and I would love, you know, of course I'm not an you know, of course I'm not an you know, of course I'm not an investigative journalist, investigative journalist, investigative journalist, >> but I would love to see if investigative >> but I would love to see if investigative >> but I would love to see if investigative journalists have went down the rabbit journalists have went down the rabbit journalists have went down the rabbit hole of why hole of why hole of why >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> are we still having the same systemic >> are we still having the same systemic >> are we still having the same systemic issues and with when it comes to issues and with when it comes to issues and with when it comes to maternal health? maternal health? maternal health? >> I almost did it. I almost did it myself >> I almost did it. I almost did it myself >> I almost did it. I almost did it myself as a freelance journalist. I almost as a freelance journalist. I almost as a freelance journalist. I almost knocked that door down. But you know, knocked that door down. But you know, knocked that door down. But you know, once you start doing that, it it takes once you start doing that, it it takes once you start doing that, it it takes it takes time.

it takes time. it takes time. >> It takes time. It takes energy and it >> It takes time. It takes energy and it >> It takes time. It takes energy and it takes a lot of context takes a lot of context takes a lot of context >> and and sometimes years. People don't >> and and sometimes years. People don't >> and and sometimes years. People don't understand that. People look at people understand that. People look at people understand that. People look at people look at us as as media professionals, look at us as as media professionals, look at us as as media professionals, freelance journalists, me and they look freelance journalists, me and they look freelance journalists, me and they look at us and say, "Oh, you know, you should at us and say, "Oh, you know, you should at us and say, "Oh, you know, you should do a month of research and then have all do a month of research and then have all do a month of research and then have all the answers." Baby, this month years the answers." Baby, this month years the answers." Baby, this month years >> years [laughter] >> years [laughter] >> years [laughter] of you follow the money in a month. No, of you follow the money in a month. No, of you follow the money in a month. No, you know, you know, you know, years. And I'm like, you know, if years. And I'm like, you know, if years. And I'm like, you know, if someone takes takes that on, someone takes takes that on, someone takes takes that on, >> you know, I I I would love to support, >> you know, I I I would love to support, >> you know, I I I would love to support, you know, because this is you know, because this is you know, because this is We we have to say enough is enough We we have to say enough is enough We we have to say enough is enough >> for ourselves. >> for ourselves. >> for ourselves. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> We can't depend on anybody to fix it for >> We can't depend on anybody to fix it for >> We can't depend on anybody to fix it for us because we we've seen that that's not us because we we've seen that that's not us because we we've seen that that's not going to happen. going to happen. going to happen. >> It doesn't work. >> It doesn't work. >> It doesn't work. >> We have to have people that are watching >> We have to have people that are watching >> We have to have people that are watching this that have those abilities that are this that have those abilities that are this that have those abilities that are journalists, that are media journalists, that are media journalists, that are media professionals, that are researchers, professionals, that are researchers, professionals, that are researchers, >> to come together and and really find the >> to come together and and really find the >> to come together and and really find the the root cause and and narrow it, you the root cause and and narrow it, you the root cause and and narrow it, you know. And I think a support group would know. And I think a support group would know. And I think a support group would be a great way to to get things started.

be a great way to to get things started. be a great way to to get things started. Firstly, you know, Firstly, you know, Firstly, you know, >> I would definitely agree. I did want to >> I would definitely agree. I did want to >> I would definitely agree. I did want to say like just three three things before say like just three three things before say like just three three things before we do leave. Um, you know, it's very we do leave. Um, you know, it's very we do leave. Um, you know, it's very hard. These conversations are hard to hard. These conversations are hard to hard. These conversations are hard to have have have >> and I really just try to like put >> and I really just try to like put >> and I really just try to like put everything in one and and just kind of everything in one and and just kind of everything in one and and just kind of give like three pointers. give like three pointers. give like three pointers. >> Please, please, women, mothers, mothers >> Please, please, women, mothers, mothers >> Please, please, women, mothers, mothers to be. If you have a sister, a brother, to be. If you have a sister, a brother, to be. If you have a sister, a brother, an aunt, anybody, anybody that can have an aunt, anybody, anybody that can have an aunt, anybody, anybody that can have a baby in this in the in these times, a baby in this in the in these times, a baby in this in the in these times, have a support group. have a support group. have a support group. >> Have a support group. Have an advocate, >> Have a support group. Have an advocate, >> Have a support group. Have an advocate, someone that can advocate for you. If someone that can advocate for you. If someone that can advocate for you. If you go down, you know, under anesthesia, you go down, you know, under anesthesia, you go down, you know, under anesthesia, you you you >> can't speak for yourself, you know. You >> can't speak for yourself, you know. You >> can't speak for yourself, you know. You have to have someone there that has a have to have someone there that has a have to have someone there that has a birth plan that are that are on the same birth plan that are that are on the same birth plan that are that are on the same page with you that are gonna sit there page with you that are gonna sit there page with you that are gonna sit there and actually say no, you know. And the and actually say no, you know. And the and actually say no, you know. And the third one is you have birth rights. You third one is you have birth rights. You third one is you have birth rights. You have rights walking into any hospital. have rights walking into any hospital. have rights walking into any hospital. It you do not have you can refuse It you do not have you can refuse It you do not have you can refuse things. You could say, "No, I don't want things. You could say, "No, I don't want things. You could say, "No, I don't want that. I don't want the epidural. No, I'm that. I don't want the epidural. No, I'm that. I don't want the epidural. No, I'm not going to have a C-section. No, I'm not going to have a C-section. No, I'm not going to have a C-section. No, I'm not going to do this and that and that."

not going to do this and that and that." not going to do this and that and that." And I feel like sometimes we And I feel like sometimes we And I feel like sometimes we >> overlook that because they're doctors >> overlook that because they're doctors >> overlook that because they're doctors and they have this doctor degree and we, and they have this doctor degree and we, and they have this doctor degree and we, oh, they know what they're talking oh, they know what they're talking oh, they know what they're talking about. about. about. >> But you know your body. >> But you know your body. >> But you know your body. >> We know our body. Yeah. >> We know our body. Yeah. >> We know our body. Yeah. >> And that's so important to to let other >> And that's so important to to let other >> And that's so important to to let other women know and other other mothers to be women know and other other mothers to be women know and other other mothers to be advocate. Advocate for yourself. Ask advocate. Advocate for yourself. Ask advocate. Advocate for yourself. Ask have a support group. Have someone have a support group. Have someone have a support group. Have someone that's going to be there and no matter that's going to be there and no matter that's going to be there and no matter what, you know, just to to to get what, you know, just to to to get what, you know, just to to to get through that process in the hospital, through that process in the hospital, through that process in the hospital, you know, because out of the hospital is you know, because out of the hospital is you know, because out of the hospital is something else. You could have support something else. You could have support something else. You could have support group outside, but I feel like in these group outside, but I feel like in these group outside, but I feel like in these hospitals, we're it it's just the the hospitals, we're it it's just the the hospitals, we're it it's just the the rates as what we're going through, it's rates as what we're going through, it's rates as what we're going through, it's they're too high. We need to we need to they're too high. We need to we need to they're too high. We need to we need to come down lower those those rates, come down lower those those rates, come down lower those those rates, mortality rates, um malpractice rate, >> very very strong stories that you both >> very very strong stories that you both have. And I I'm so pleased to have you have. And I I'm so pleased to have you have. And I I'm so pleased to have you guys here and and thank you. I want to guys here and and thank you. I want to guys here and and thank you. I want to thank you because your stories mean a thank you because your stories mean a thank you because your stories mean a lot and they they have to be shared with lot and they they have to be shared with lot and they they have to be shared with everybody, not only

>> really appreciate you. Thank you, >> really appreciate you. Thank you, Chenise. Thank you to Totally, Randy, Chenise. Thank you to Totally, Randy, Chenise. Thank you to Totally, Randy, for being here. You guys are amazing for being here. You guys are amazing for being here. You guys are amazing people, amazing moms, and oh my gosh, people, amazing moms, and oh my gosh, people, amazing moms, and oh my gosh, I'm just so thankful for you guys to be I'm just so thankful for you guys to be I'm just so thankful for you guys to be here. I'm really, really thankful. Thank here. I'm really, really thankful. Thank here. I'm really, really thankful. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you guys. We love you. Thank you. Thank you guys. We love you. Thank you. Thank you guys. We love you, too. Go. you, too. Go. you, too. Go. >> Thank you, ladies. This is going to just >> Thank you, ladies. This is going to just >> Thank you, ladies. This is going to just be one conversation of many, but we do be one conversation of many, but we do be one conversation of many, but we do want to just, you know, have real want to just, you know, have real want to just, you know, have real stories. This is a place to have real stories. This is a place to have real stories. This is a place to have real stories, to have a spa, a safe space to stories, to have a spa, a safe space to stories, to have a spa, a safe space to do so, and to actually advocate and have do so, and to actually advocate and have do so, and to actually advocate and have a movement um behind our stories, not a movement um behind our stories, not a movement um behind our stories, not just talking about it, but actually just talking about it, but actually just talking about it, but actually having a step further, you know, and I I having a step further, you know, and I I having a step further, you know, and I I really feel like this is the first step. really feel like this is the first step. really feel like this is the first step. Now, let's advocate for others as well. Now, let's advocate for others as well. Now, let's advocate for others as well. So, I thank you so much again. I thank So, I thank you so much again. I thank So, I thank you so much again. I thank you so much for coming to the SJJ show. you so much for coming to the SJJ show. you so much for coming to the SJJ show. I'm so pleased to have you guys. Please I'm so pleased to have you guys. Please I'm so pleased to have you guys. Please subscribe. Please follow the two subscribe. Please follow the two subscribe. Please follow the two beautiful mothers and two ladies. They beautiful mothers and two ladies. They beautiful mothers and two ladies. They have their journalists in Houston. have their journalists in Houston. have their journalists in Houston. Follow and support. Thank you so much Follow and support. Thank you so much Follow and support. Thank you so much for everyone. Thank you. Have a great for everyone. Thank you. Have a great for everyone. Thank you. Have a great one. one. one. >> Yay. Thank you guys. >> Yay. Thank you guys. >> Yay. Thank you guys. >> You're welcome. >> You're welcome. >> You're welcome. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.