EP9 Glimpses of Olympias

it's hardcore history attendant I keep it's hardcore history attendant I keep reading in all of them like the reading in all of them like the reading in all of them like the entertainment stories how desperate the entertainment stories how desperate the entertainment stories how desperate the entertainment industry is for new ideas entertainment industry is for new ideas entertainment industry is for new ideas and new concepts and subject matter and and new concepts and subject matter and and new concepts and subject matter and all this stuff and I read one the other all this stuff and I read one the other all this stuff and I read one the other day that says this is the reason why you day that says this is the reason why you day that says this is the reason why you keep seeing like Teenage Mutant Ninja keep seeing like Teenage Mutant Ninja keep seeing like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 47 and every cartoon you grew up Turtles 47 and every cartoon you grew up Turtles 47 and every cartoon you grew up with as a kid made into a live-action with as a kid made into a live-action with as a kid made into a live-action movie I mean they're just desperate for movie I mean they're just desperate for movie I mean they're just desperate for you know they need ideas and I can't you know they need ideas and I can't you know they need ideas and I can't believe that I refuse to believe it believe that I refuse to believe it believe that I refuse to believe it because the ideas are hiding in plain because the ideas are hiding in plain because the ideas are hiding in plain sight so I don't get it I don't get why sight so I don't get it I don't get why sight so I don't get it I don't get why the stories that are right there aren't the stories that are right there aren't the stories that are right there aren't just snapped up and used I mean they're just snapped up and used I mean they're just snapped up and used I mean they're sitting there like diamonds on the beach and because human history is so fast and because human history is so fast right not just in terms of geography but right not just in terms of geography but right not just in terms of geography but also you know eras that there are so also you know eras that there are so also you know eras that there are so many stories that whatever you're many stories that whatever you're many stories that whatever you're particularly trying to well let's just particularly trying to well let's just particularly trying to well let's just take a movie for example but it could be take a movie for example but it could be take a movie for example but it could be anything whatever you're trying to make anything whatever you're trying to make anything whatever you're trying to make a movie out of I mean there's there's a movie out of I mean there's there's a movie out of I mean there's there's the right diamond on the beach for you the right diamond on the beach for you the right diamond on the beach for you and maybe multiples I was thinking the and maybe multiples I was thinking the and maybe multiples I was thinking the other day everybody wants to make you other day everybody wants to make you other day everybody wants to make you know a strong female you know know a strong female you know know a strong female you know protagonist sort of film right now from protagonist sort of film right now from protagonist sort of film right now from a female I mean it's it would be the a female I mean it's it would be the a female I mean it's it would be the perfect idea right the perfect time perfect idea right the perfect time perfect idea right the perfect time period right now to do the definitive period right now to do the definitive period right now to do the definitive movie how about the only movie on what I movie how about the only movie on what I movie how about the only movie on what I think and remember my knowledge is the think and remember my knowledge is the think and remember my knowledge is the opposite of vast and deep but but from opposite of vast and deep but but from opposite of vast and deep but but from my limited perspective this is the most my limited perspective this is the most my limited perspective this is the most interesting I don't even know that the

interesting I don't even know that the interesting I don't even know that the adjectives elude me woman in the entire adjectives elude me woman in the entire adjectives elude me woman in the entire ancient period of you know Greek ancient period of you know Greek ancient period of you know Greek Mediterranean West Asian history you Mediterranean West Asian history you Mediterranean West Asian history you know that world it's Alexander the know that world it's Alexander the know that world it's Alexander the Great's mother how the hell has that Great's mother how the hell has that Great's mother how the hell has that movie not been made and let me stop and movie not been made and let me stop and movie not been made and let me stop and point out that Alexander the Great story point out that Alexander the Great story point out that Alexander the Great story maybe the you know when people say to me maybe the you know when people say to me maybe the you know when people say to me because I said once that history has because I said once that history has because I said once that history has ruined me for fiction and people will ruined me for fiction and people will ruined me for fiction and people will come up to me sometimes and one an come up to me sometimes and one an come up to me sometimes and one an example you know give me an example from example you know give me an example from example you know give me an example from history and I always use the same one history and I always use the same one history and I always use the same one because it's right on the tip of my because it's right on the tip of my because it's right on the tip of my tongue tongue tongue and it's also the best example I can and it's also the best example I can and it's also the best example I can think of I don't think it's think of I don't think it's think of I don't think it's you know argue boy we say the youngest you know argue boy we say the youngest you know argue boy we say the youngest Alexander the great story now obviously Alexander the great story now obviously Alexander the great story now obviously it doesn't have dragons and stuff and it doesn't have dragons and stuff and it doesn't have dragons and stuff and you can get that in fiction but to you can get that in fiction but to you can get that in fiction but to balance that out the story is basically balance that out the story is basically balance that out the story is basically true and that will compensate you in my true and that will compensate you in my true and that will compensate you in my book anyway for a lot of dragons and the book anyway for a lot of dragons and the book anyway for a lot of dragons and the reason the Alexander the Great story is reason the Alexander the Great story is reason the Alexander the Great story is so amazing is because he's just one of so amazing is because he's just one of so amazing is because he's just one of many over-the-top larger-than-life many over-the-top larger-than-life many over-the-top larger-than-life figures in it he may be like Seinfeld in figures in it he may be like Seinfeld in figures in it he may be like Seinfeld in the TV series Seinfeld where everything the TV series Seinfeld where everything the TV series Seinfeld where everything everyone orbiting around him is a more everyone orbiting around him is a more everyone orbiting around him is a more interesting figure although he's pretty interesting figure although he's pretty interesting figure although he's pretty damn interesting to you but the story is damn interesting to you but the story is damn interesting to you but the story is so interesting you can break pieces off so interesting you can break pieces off so interesting you can break pieces off of the main story and just examine them of the main story and just examine them of the main story and just examine them and get a kick out of it I mean we've and get a kick out of it I mean we've and get a kick out of it I mean we've done that before we've mined the done that before we've mined the done that before we've mined the alexander vein on this hardcore history alexander vein on this hardcore history alexander vein on this hardcore history podcast already I mean the first show we podcast already I mean the first show we podcast already I mean the first show we did was called Alexander vs. Hitler then

did was called Alexander vs. Hitler then did was called Alexander vs. Hitler then we did one on what we called the we did one on what we called the we did one on what we called the makedonia in soap opera but the name you makedonia in soap opera but the name you makedonia in soap opera but the name you usually hear is the funeral game's the usually hear is the funeral game's the usually hear is the funeral game's the period after Alexander's death where period after Alexander's death where period after Alexander's death where there was this scramble for the Empire there was this scramble for the Empire there was this scramble for the Empire and Alexander's mother was one of the and Alexander's mother was one of the and Alexander's mother was one of the key figures the Queen you might say on key figures the Queen you might say on key figures the Queen you might say on the chess board during that entire the chess board during that entire the chess board during that entire struggle so we've dealt with her before struggle so we've dealt with her before struggle so we've dealt with her before but I was thinking you know just reading but I was thinking you know just reading but I was thinking you know just reading these stories about how you don't have these stories about how you don't have these stories about how you don't have any content and everybody wants to make any content and everybody wants to make any content and everybody wants to make a good strong female movie well how a good strong female movie well how a good strong female movie well how about the greatest story you've ever about the greatest story you've ever about the greatest story you've ever heard and I should point out that I was heard and I should point out that I was heard and I should point out that I was trying to use as my model for this trying to use as my model for this trying to use as my model for this conversation today some of the earlier conversation today some of the earlier conversation today some of the earlier hardcore history shows we did because we hardcore history shows we did because we hardcore history shows we did because we used to think if we would just name them used to think if we would just name them used to think if we would just name them in a very limited way so that we set the in a very limited way so that we set the in a very limited way so that we set the parameters with the title of the show it parameters with the title of the show it parameters with the title of the show it would keep us from going too deep and would keep us from going too deep and would keep us from going too deep and getting out of hand that was when we getting out of hand that was when we getting out of hand that was when we were young and we didn't know what we were young and we didn't know what we were young and we didn't know what we were doing and we didn't realize that's were doing and we didn't realize that's were doing and we didn't realize that's impossible so what are we gonna do we're impossible so what are we gonna do we're impossible so what are we gonna do we're gonna try it again we don't learn from gonna try it again we don't learn from gonna try it again we don't learn from history but those shows where shows like history but those shows where shows like history but those shows where shows like Nazi tidbits and thoughts on Churchill Nazi tidbits and thoughts on Churchill Nazi tidbits and thoughts on Churchill and meandering through the Cold War you and meandering through the Cold War you and meandering through the Cold War you know sort of denotes that it's it's not know sort of denotes that it's it's not know sort of denotes that it's it's not gonna be a deep an intensive look we're gonna be a deep an intensive look we're gonna be a deep an intensive look we're just going to hit some other more just going to hit some other more just going to hit some other more interesting points worth discussing some interesting points worth discussing some interesting points worth discussing some people miss those shows some people people miss those shows some people people miss those shows some people don't miss those shows so we're gonna don't miss those shows so we're gonna don't miss those shows so we're gonna please about half of you now maybe you please about half of you now maybe you please about half of you now maybe you will call this will call this will call this today's show glimpses of Olympius as we today's show glimpses of Olympius as we today's show glimpses of Olympius as we look at the most interesting female look at the most interesting female look at the most interesting female figure that I know of in the ancient figure that I know of in the ancient figure that I know of in the ancient world Alexander the Great's mom and I world Alexander the Great's mom and I world Alexander the Great's mom and I should tell you and this is proof should tell you and this is proof should tell you and this is proof positive that I am a history geek

positive that I am a history geek positive that I am a history geek because I have been giggling to myself because I have been giggling to myself because I have been giggling to myself for like the last 24 hours for like the last 24 hours for like the last 24 hours I've been reading the historian I've been reading the historian I've been reading the historian Elizabeth Carney's book she's the only Elizabeth Carney's book she's the only Elizabeth Carney's book she's the only one who I think actually put a book out one who I think actually put a book out one who I think actually put a book out specifically about Olympius Alexander's specifically about Olympius Alexander's specifically about Olympius Alexander's mom it's called Olympius and in it she mom it's called Olympius and in it she mom it's called Olympius and in it she addresses one of the let's call them addresses one of the let's call them addresses one of the let's call them psychological profiles that people have psychological profiles that people have psychological profiles that people have attempted to make concerning Alexander attempted to make concerning Alexander attempted to make concerning Alexander for 2,500 years he's got to be the most for 2,500 years he's got to be the most for 2,500 years he's got to be the most psychoanalyzed historical figure from a psychoanalyzed historical figure from a psychoanalyzed historical figure from a long time ago that I can think of and long time ago that I can think of and long time ago that I can think of and what's great about him of course is you what's great about him of course is you what's great about him of course is you can see him a thousand different ways so can see him a thousand different ways so can see him a thousand different ways so take your pick but Elizabeth Carney was take your pick but Elizabeth Carney was take your pick but Elizabeth Carney was addressing this question that has arisen addressing this question that has arisen addressing this question that has arisen from you know way back in the time when from you know way back in the time when from you know way back in the time when this phrase was actually in use but the this phrase was actually in use but the this phrase was actually in use but the question was was Alexander the Great a question was was Alexander the Great a question was was Alexander the Great a mama's boy in air quotes mama's boy I mama's boy in air quotes mama's boy I mama's boy in air quotes mama's boy I don't even know what that means anymore don't even know what that means anymore don't even know what that means anymore I think like Howard Wolowitz from the I think like Howard Wolowitz from the I think like Howard Wolowitz from the Big Bang Theory which makes that Big Bang Theory which makes that Big Bang Theory which makes that question that's why I'm snickering question that's why I'm snickering question that's why I'm snickering because was Alexander the Great a mama's because was Alexander the Great a mama's because was Alexander the Great a mama's boys funny on a couple of different boys funny on a couple of different boys funny on a couple of different levels but they're history geek levels levels but they're history geek levels levels but they're history geek levels the first one is think about Alexander the first one is think about Alexander the first one is think about Alexander the Great for a minute right I'm the Great for a minute right I'm the Great for a minute right I'm thinking Howard Wolowitz instead we have thinking Howard Wolowitz instead we have thinking Howard Wolowitz instead we have a guy that is responsible one way or a guy that is responsible one way or a guy that is responsible one way or another for the deaths of at least another for the deaths of at least another for the deaths of at least hundreds of thousands and maybe millions hundreds of thousands and maybe millions hundreds of thousands and maybe millions of people conquered a ton of the known of people conquered a ton of the known of people conquered a ton of the known world during the time period far beyond world during the time period far beyond world during the time period far beyond anything anybody thought possible anything anybody thought possible anything anybody thought possible remember this guy conquered from Greece remember this guy conquered from Greece remember this guy conquered from Greece to India into India he fought elephants

to India into India he fought elephants to India into India he fought elephants in the rainforest with makedonia and in the rainforest with makedonia and in the rainforest with makedonia and greases he did not do this from some greases he did not do this from some greases he did not do this from some command sent her way behind the lines command sent her way behind the lines command sent her way behind the lines instead he would lead the decisive instead he would lead the decisive instead he would lead the decisive cavalry charge himself probably from the cavalry charge himself probably from the cavalry charge himself probably from the front of a wedge formation which is like front of a wedge formation which is like front of a wedge formation which is like a pyramid and he'd be the guy you know a pyramid and he'd be the guy you know a pyramid and he'd be the guy you know the the star on the top of the Christmas the the star on the top of the Christmas the the star on the top of the Christmas tree positioned the tip of the spear in tree positioned the tip of the spear in tree positioned the tip of the spear in the wedge so hardly a shrinking violet the wedge so hardly a shrinking violet the wedge so hardly a shrinking violet he was known to drink other people under he was known to drink other people under he was known to drink other people under the table in drinking contests at the table in drinking contests at the table in drinking contests at parties and occasionally at least on one parties and occasionally at least on one parties and occasionally at least on one occasion spear one of his best friends occasion spear one of his best friends occasion spear one of his best friends at one of these parties he doesn't at one of these parties he doesn't at one of these parties he doesn't strike me as the Howard Wolowitz strike me as the Howard Wolowitz strike me as the Howard Wolowitz stereotypically you know the mama's boy stereotypically you know the mama's boy stereotypically you know the mama's boy in the air quotes but it's funny for in the air quotes but it's funny for in the air quotes but it's funny for another reason because Alexander was all another reason because Alexander was all another reason because Alexander was all those things I just mentioned a person those things I just mentioned a person those things I just mentioned a person that has been seen as everything from a that has been seen as everything from a that has been seen as everything from a philosopher King to a genocide athough philosopher King to a genocide athough philosopher King to a genocide athough and everything in between he could have and everything in between he could have and everything in between he could have been all those things in his case and been all those things in his case and been all those things in his case and still been a mama's boy because look at still been a mama's boy because look at still been a mama's boy because look at his mama his mama his mama this is them listen again limited this is them listen again limited this is them listen again limited knowledge this is the most formidable knowledge this is the most formidable knowledge this is the most formidable woman in history as far as from a woman in history as far as from a woman in history as far as from a geopolitical sense anyway you can see geopolitical sense anyway you can see geopolitical sense anyway you can see women get involved in stories in the women get involved in stories in the women get involved in stories in the past with these male writers from Greece past with these male writers from Greece past with these male writers from Greece and Rome and these people who had to and Rome and these people who had to and Rome and these people who had to catalog them and they're often story catalog them and they're often story catalog them and they're often story props bits and pieces and furniture and props bits and pieces and furniture and props bits and pieces and furniture and great the stories of great men or events

great the stories of great men or events great the stories of great men or events sometimes they're they're sort of the sometimes they're they're sort of the sometimes they're they're sort of the wicked Eve type of character where wicked Eve type of character where wicked Eve type of character where they're the root of problems other times they're the root of problems other times they're the root of problems other times they they represent a religious and they they represent a religious and they they represent a religious and divine side of things which is divine side of things which is divine side of things which is interesting and plays into this story interesting and plays into this story interesting and plays into this story too but as a elisabeth carney points out too but as a elisabeth carney points out too but as a elisabeth carney points out in her book Olympius it's really tough in her book Olympius it's really tough in her book Olympius it's really tough to tease out all of the stereotypes in to tease out all of the stereotypes in to tease out all of the stereotypes in that and the cultural influences of all that and the cultural influences of all that and the cultural influences of all these ancient writers who would these ancient writers who would these ancient writers who would oftentimes excuse a male figure like an oftentimes excuse a male figure like an oftentimes excuse a male figure like an alexander for doing something you know alexander for doing something you know alexander for doing something you know horrible maybe they had to wipe out a horrible maybe they had to wipe out a horrible maybe they had to wipe out a village and a person like Plutarch an village and a person like Plutarch an village and a person like Plutarch an ancient writer would say well it's a ancient writer would say well it's a ancient writer would say well it's a they have to do that it's sometimes you they have to do that it's sometimes you they have to do that it's sometimes you know real politique or Machiavellian is know real politique or Machiavellian is know real politique or Machiavellian is the way we look at it now sometimes a the way we look at it now sometimes a the way we look at it now sometimes a man has to do what a man has to do to man has to do what a man has to do to man has to do what a man has to do to move history forward or whatever the move history forward or whatever the move history forward or whatever the tough decisions but when a woman does tough decisions but when a woman does tough decisions but when a woman does the same thing it gets attributed not to the same thing it gets attributed not to the same thing it gets attributed not to logical logical logical real world questions but emotion you real world questions but emotion you real world questions but emotion you know it's envy it spite it's the know it's envy it spite it's the know it's envy it spite it's the jealousy of a woman she was angry you jealousy of a woman she was angry you jealousy of a woman she was angry you know it's irrational right so just know it's irrational right so just know it's irrational right so just seeing it through a lens where in a guy seeing it through a lens where in a guy seeing it through a lens where in a guy like Plutarch's time a person like like Plutarch's time a person like like Plutarch's time a person like Olympius looks pretty uppity in fact Olympius looks pretty uppity in fact Olympius looks pretty uppity in fact though let's be honest though let's be honest though let's be honest Olimpia looks uppity from the start it's Olimpia looks uppity from the start it's Olimpia looks uppity from the start it's part of what makes her fun part of what makes her fun part of what makes her fun because if you look at the stew that she because if you look at the stew that she because if you look at the stew that she walked into you when she joined the walked into you when she joined the walked into you when she joined the makedonia and royal family how do you makedonia and royal family how do you makedonia and royal family how do you how do you not get killed in that how do you not get killed in that how do you not get killed in that environment first or how do you avoid environment first or how do you avoid environment first or how do you avoid trouble to begin with most people would trouble to begin with most people would trouble to begin with most people would walk in there and go how do I stay out walk in there and go how do I stay out walk in there and go how do I stay out of trouble in this environment she walk of trouble in this environment she walk of trouble in this environment she walk in and and well far from shrinking in a

in and and well far from shrinking in a in and and well far from shrinking in a sense she took it over and she scared sense she took it over and she scared sense she took it over and she scared the crap out of some of the most August the crap out of some of the most August the crap out of some of the most August over-the-top larger-than-life figures of over-the-top larger-than-life figures of over-the-top larger-than-life figures of their time one of them was Philip the their time one of them was Philip the their time one of them was Philip the second the guy she showed up to marry in second the guy she showed up to marry in second the guy she showed up to marry in 357 BCE so let's tell a little of this 357 BCE so let's tell a little of this 357 BCE so let's tell a little of this story but like I said glimpses of story but like I said glimpses of story but like I said glimpses of Olympius because I don't want to get too Olympius because I don't want to get too Olympius because I don't want to get too deeply into it for a lot of reasons deeply into it for a lot of reasons deeply into it for a lot of reasons including we've talked about some of including we've talked about some of including we've talked about some of this stuff before I am saving most of this stuff before I am saving most of this stuff before I am saving most of this stuff for the big Alexander show I this stuff for the big Alexander show I this stuff for the big Alexander show I have in my back pocket for some later have in my back pocket for some later have in my back pocket for some later date blueprint for Armageddon was one of date blueprint for Armageddon was one of date blueprint for Armageddon was one of those shows we were saving for awhile those shows we were saving for awhile those shows we were saving for awhile and when the Centennial happened of and when the Centennial happened of and when the Centennial happened of world war 1 boom we did that one I got world war 1 boom we did that one I got world war 1 boom we did that one I got the Alexander one in the future the Alexander one in the future the Alexander one in the future and I'm hoping that my super intense and I'm hoping that my super intense and I'm hoping that my super intense interest in this means a slightly better interest in this means a slightly better interest in this means a slightly better chance of a good show or shows so I'm chance of a good show or shows so I'm chance of a good show or shows so I'm not gonna get too deeply into a bunch of not gonna get too deeply into a bunch of not gonna get too deeply into a bunch of stuff I'm saving for that someday I will stuff I'm saving for that someday I will stuff I'm saving for that someday I will say and this is a little bit of a say and this is a little bit of a say and this is a little bit of a tangent in this story that I usually tangent in this story that I usually tangent in this story that I usually point out is the most unbelievable point out is the most unbelievable point out is the most unbelievable interesting historical tale of all time interesting historical tale of all time interesting historical tale of all time as you know whatever is true whatever as you know whatever is true whatever as you know whatever is true whatever isn't that there's only been two movies isn't that there's only been two movies isn't that there's only been two movies attempted by Hollywood or at least attempted by Hollywood or at least attempted by Hollywood or at least released by Hollywood on this story it's released by Hollywood on this story it's released by Hollywood on this story it's incredible just incredible to me and one incredible just incredible to me and one incredible just incredible to me and one was in 1956 and Richard Burton was was in 1956 and Richard Burton was was in 1956 and Richard Burton was Alexander the Great there was another Alexander the Great there was another Alexander the Great there was another one that was supposed to be a movie one that was supposed to be a movie one that was supposed to be a movie ended up being downgraded and cut up to ended up being downgraded and cut up to ended up being downgraded and cut up to like a TV movie like a sword and sandals like a TV movie like a sword and sandals like a TV movie like a sword and sandals western thriller with William Shatner as western thriller with William Shatner as western thriller with William Shatner as Alexander the Great Alexander the Great Alexander the Great sort of like Captain Kirk with blond sort of like Captain Kirk with blond sort of like Captain Kirk with blond hair and a more falsetto a voice I like

hair and a more falsetto a voice I like hair and a more falsetto a voice I like William Shatner I don't think he's William Shatner I don't think he's William Shatner I don't think he's probably too happy with it either though probably too happy with it either though probably too happy with it either though and then the one done by Oliver Stone and then the one done by Oliver Stone and then the one done by Oliver Stone not that long ago and I support an not that long ago and I support an not that long ago and I support an artist right to look at a person like artist right to look at a person like artist right to look at a person like Alexander in his era from a thousand Alexander in his era from a thousand Alexander in his era from a thousand different viewpoints cuz I think it different viewpoints cuz I think it different viewpoints cuz I think it lends itself to it it's part of the fun lends itself to it it's part of the fun lends itself to it it's part of the fun but it wasn't my cup of tea I want to but it wasn't my cup of tea I want to but it wasn't my cup of tea I want to give him credit for something though give him credit for something though give him credit for something though because one because one because one he did has stayed with me ever since I he did has stayed with me ever since I he did has stayed with me ever since I actually can't get it out of my mind I actually can't get it out of my mind I actually can't get it out of my mind I have to confess to it right now I didn't have to confess to it right now I didn't have to confess to it right now I didn't like his casting I found out he made the like his casting I found out he made the like his casting I found out he made the most maybe the most interesting most maybe the most interesting most maybe the most interesting character in the story Val Kilmer is character in the story Val Kilmer is character in the story Val Kilmer is Philip the second come on Philip the second come on Philip the second come on but Alexander's mother as played by but Alexander's mother as played by but Alexander's mother as played by Angelina Jolie and I didn't like the Angelina Jolie and I didn't like the Angelina Jolie and I didn't like the casting and then I saw her and now I casting and then I saw her and now I casting and then I saw her and now I can't unsee it I think she's perfect at can't unsee it I think she's perfect at can't unsee it I think she's perfect at least you know everybody's got their least you know everybody's got their least you know everybody's got their image my image of this person first of image my image of this person first of image my image of this person first of all I don't know if it's the makeup or all I don't know if it's the makeup or all I don't know if it's the makeup or just how Jolie looks or some combination just how Jolie looks or some combination just how Jolie looks or some combination of the two boy she looks like my image of the two boy she looks like my image of the two boy she looks like my image of what a person in the northern Greek of what a person in the northern Greek of what a person in the northern Greek southern albania area of it Pyrus would southern albania area of it Pyrus would southern albania area of it Pyrus would look like she looks the part to me and look like she looks the part to me and look like she looks the part to me and at the time she did the movie she really at the time she did the movie she really at the time she did the movie she really seems to be of that age that most of seems to be of that age that most of seems to be of that age that most of Olympius story seems to happen in where Olympius story seems to happen in where Olympius story seems to happen in where she's not a young lady anymore and she's she's not a young lady anymore and she's she's not a young lady anymore and she's not an older lady anymore it's that not an older lady anymore it's that not an older lady anymore it's that middle range but she still commands middle range but she still commands middle range but she still commands attention in a physical sense and attention in a physical sense and attention in a physical sense and there's a lot of reasons for it it might there's a lot of reasons for it it might there's a lot of reasons for it it might not have just been conventional Beauty I not have just been conventional Beauty I not have just been conventional Beauty I mean the woman is supposed to have mean the woman is supposed to have mean the woman is supposed to have carried snakes around with her whether carried snakes around with her whether carried snakes around with her whether or not that's true or not that's true or not that's true that'll make an impression right the

that'll make an impression right the that'll make an impression right the stories are wonderful and watching stories are wonderful and watching stories are wonderful and watching Elizabeth Kearney try to make sense of Elizabeth Kearney try to make sense of Elizabeth Kearney try to make sense of what's real and what's not in the what's real and what's not in the what's real and what's not in the stories is fascinating the one thing she stories is fascinating the one thing she stories is fascinating the one thing she does say though is the snakes were does say though is the snakes were does say though is the snakes were probably probably real so we should back probably probably real so we should back probably probably real so we should back up and talk about the snakes and make up and talk about the snakes and make up and talk about the snakes and make sense of all this story for a minute sense of all this story for a minute sense of all this story for a minute Olympius ends up marrying this is why Olympius ends up marrying this is why Olympius ends up marrying this is why she's famous right she marries the she's famous right she marries the she's famous right she marries the up-and-coming soon-to-be greatest man of up-and-coming soon-to-be greatest man of up-and-coming soon-to-be greatest man of her age in her world the guy who would her age in her world the guy who would her age in her world the guy who would have been Alexander the Great had he not have been Alexander the Great had he not have been Alexander the Great had he not died he's one of these kings that died he's one of these kings that died he's one of these kings that actually is maybe like the best example actually is maybe like the best example actually is maybe like the best example you will ever see who builds up you will ever see who builds up you will ever see who builds up everything necessary for some great everything necessary for some great everything necessary for some great endeavor dies before he can carry it out endeavor dies before he can carry it out endeavor dies before he can carry it out hands over the you know the the car all hands over the you know the the car all hands over the you know the the car all gassed up and ready to go to his son who gassed up and ready to go to his son who gassed up and ready to go to his son who then gets you know does it and gets then gets you know does it and gets then gets you know does it and gets credit for it philip ii is the guy that credit for it philip ii is the guy that credit for it philip ii is the guy that set up the invasion of Persia he set up the invasion of Persia he set up the invasion of Persia he actually had a beachhead established in actually had a beachhead established in actually had a beachhead established in Persian territory when he died Alexander Persian territory when he died Alexander Persian territory when he died Alexander grabbed the keys to the car and grabbed the keys to the car and grabbed the keys to the car and conquered you know half the known world conquered you know half the known world conquered you know half the known world with it he was with it he was with it he was using basically the German Vermont 1940 using basically the German Vermont 1940 using basically the German Vermont 1940 right before the whole Russian problem right before the whole Russian problem right before the whole Russian problem it was the greatest army of its time it was the greatest army of its time it was the greatest army of its time with a host of generals and marshals to with a host of generals and marshals to with a host of generals and marshals to help him out right he had tutors right help him out right he had tutors right help him out right he had tutors right away and this group was in my top five away and this group was in my top five away and this group was in my top five of greatest assembly of generals and of greatest assembly of generals and of greatest assembly of generals and marshals and and over the top military marshals and and over the top military marshals and and over the top military figures under a single great visionary figures under a single great visionary figures under a single great visionary leader you will ever see jenga's Colin leader you will ever see jenga's Colin leader you will ever see jenga's Colin had a great group of generals Napoleon

had a great group of generals Napoleon had a great group of generals Napoleon had I mean you know as ever has there had I mean you know as ever has there had I mean you know as ever has there ever been a better assembly of ever been a better assembly of ever been a better assembly of larger-than-life marshals and generals larger-than-life marshals and generals larger-than-life marshals and generals at Napoleon's General Staff people and at Napoleon's General Staff people and at Napoleon's General Staff people and then you have Alexander and Alexander's then you have Alexander and Alexander's then you have Alexander and Alexander's father and all these figures who are not father and all these figures who are not father and all these figures who are not only going to play huge roles after his only going to play huge roles after his only going to play huge roles after his death and start whole kingdoms and death and start whole kingdoms and death and start whole kingdoms and dynasties of their own but they're all dynasties of their own but they're all dynasties of their own but they're all these I'm right out of central casting I these I'm right out of central casting I these I'm right out of central casting I mean take and taking this monolith on mean take and taking this monolith on mean take and taking this monolith on homeless and taking this one I he's got homeless and taking this one I he's got homeless and taking this one I he's got one eye he's looks like I mean they one eye he's looks like I mean they one eye he's looks like I mean they always portray him like this giant sort always portray him like this giant sort always portray him like this giant sort of bearded I mean they just the Greeks of bearded I mean they just the Greeks of bearded I mean they just the Greeks in Athens and Sparta looked at the in Athens and Sparta looked at the in Athens and Sparta looked at the people up in makedonia like they were people up in makedonia like they were people up in makedonia like they were kind of barbarians and the funny part kind of barbarians and the funny part kind of barbarians and the funny part about it is it's a sliding scale because about it is it's a sliding scale because about it is it's a sliding scale because the makedonia pnes were always trying to the makedonia pnes were always trying to the makedonia pnes were always trying to import all these Greek scholars and and import all these Greek scholars and and import all these Greek scholars and and teachers and art working and all the teachers and art working and all the teachers and art working and all the stuff to try to gussy themselves up a stuff to try to gussy themselves up a stuff to try to gussy themselves up a little and buff up their image with little and buff up their image with little and buff up their image with those cultured southern Greeks who might those cultured southern Greeks who might those cultured southern Greeks who might be a little sniffy and effeminate but be a little sniffy and effeminate but be a little sniffy and effeminate but whatever the makedonia is were moving up whatever the makedonia is were moving up whatever the makedonia is were moving up in the world during this time period in the world during this time period in the world during this time period trying to point out to the other Greeks trying to point out to the other Greeks trying to point out to the other Greeks hey we're one of you we should be in the hey we're one of you we should be in the hey we're one of you we should be in the Olympics too and Philip was allowed that Olympics too and Philip was allowed that Olympics too and Philip was allowed that early on that's why Olympius might have early on that's why Olympius might have early on that's why Olympius might have been named Olympius but if the makedonia been named Olympius but if the makedonia been named Olympius but if the makedonia pnes were trying to not look so barbaric pnes were trying to not look so barbaric pnes were trying to not look so barbaric they looked at the people where Olympius they looked at the people where Olympius they looked at the people where Olympius is families from as as the weirdoes a is families from as as the weirdoes a is families from as as the weirdoes a hundred and fifty miles away that's part hundred and fifty miles away that's part hundred and fifty miles away that's part of the fun by the way of the ancient of the fun by the way of the ancient of the fun by the way of the ancient period is it's also localized sometimes period is it's also localized sometimes period is it's also localized sometimes I mean one of my favorite periods in

I mean one of my favorite periods in I mean one of my favorite periods in Roman history is really early on when Roman history is really early on when Roman history is really early on when Rome was a small city-state and it's Rome was a small city-state and it's Rome was a small city-state and it's having a war with another city state and having a war with another city state and having a war with another city state and that city-states 11 miles away I mean in that city-states 11 miles away I mean in that city-states 11 miles away I mean in your big cities now that's like fighting your big cities now that's like fighting your big cities now that's like fighting with your suburbs but I love the low with your suburbs but I love the low with your suburbs but I love the low ality of it makedonia ana Pyrus which is ality of it makedonia ana Pyrus which is ality of it makedonia ana Pyrus which is where Olympius is from only about a where Olympius is from only about a where Olympius is from only about a hundred and fifty miles away and over hundred and fifty miles away and over hundred and fifty miles away and over the mountains though and it Pyrus is a the mountains though and it Pyrus is a the mountains though and it Pyrus is a place and it's funny how you could have place and it's funny how you could have place and it's funny how you could have this right where the makedonia pnes are this right where the makedonia pnes are this right where the makedonia pnes are a little leery of elizabeth carney a little leery of elizabeth carney a little leery of elizabeth carney quotes some of the ancient stereotypes quotes some of the ancient stereotypes quotes some of the ancient stereotypes and says you know they thought of the and says you know they thought of the and says you know they thought of the appearance as poisoners and casters of appearance as poisoners and casters of appearance as poisoners and casters of spells now part of what makes this spells now part of what makes this spells now part of what makes this Olympius story interesting and this is Olympius story interesting and this is Olympius story interesting and this is see this is my own take on it I try I've see this is my own take on it I try I've see this is my own take on it I try I've never forgotten an experiment that a never forgotten an experiment that a never forgotten an experiment that a teacher did with us back when I was teacher did with us back when I was teacher did with us back when I was first starting as a history major and it first starting as a history major and it first starting as a history major and it was just the first step in what would if was just the first step in what would if was just the first step in what would if you carried it all the way to a PhD you carried it all the way to a PhD you carried it all the way to a PhD someday be a long line of trying to get someday be a long line of trying to get someday be a long line of trying to get you to purge your period now from how you to purge your period now from how you to purge your period now from how you see other periods because it's this you see other periods because it's this you see other periods because it's this huge challenge right how do you huge challenge right how do you huge challenge right how do you objectively look at the past when you've objectively look at the past when you've objectively look at the past when you've got all these cultural influences got all these cultural influences got all these cultural influences influencing you and to make it more influencing you and to make it more influencing you and to make it more complicated many of the historians complicated many of the historians complicated many of the historians you're reading had their cultural you're reading had their cultural you're reading had their cultural influences working on them and so this influences working on them and so this influences working on them and so this teacher said let's imagine something for teacher said let's imagine something for teacher said let's imagine something for a second let's imagine that instead of a second let's imagine that instead of a second let's imagine that instead of like Newtonian laws of physics that we like Newtonian laws of physics that we like Newtonian laws of physics that we all take for granted and we know are all take for granted and we know are all take for granted and we know are true right you substitute magic and you

true right you substitute magic and you true right you substitute magic and you believe it as as rock solid with as much believe it as as rock solid with as much believe it as as rock solid with as much certitude as we believe in the Newtonian certitude as we believe in the Newtonian certitude as we believe in the Newtonian laws of physics how does that change laws of physics how does that change laws of physics how does that change everything around you and when you start everything around you and when you start everything around you and when you start thinking about it for a while you go thinking about it for a while you go thinking about it for a while you go wait wait a minute I mean for example in wait wait a minute I mean for example in wait wait a minute I mean for example in this world we live in now you have many this world we live in now you have many this world we live in now you have many different competing views on reality and different competing views on reality and different competing views on reality and you can almost treat it like a buffet you can almost treat it like a buffet you can almost treat it like a buffet you can say I accept the hard sciences you can say I accept the hard sciences you can say I accept the hard sciences here but I'm still into astrology over here but I'm still into astrology over here but I'm still into astrology over there and I'm a Catholic so I believe in there and I'm a Catholic so I believe in there and I'm a Catholic so I believe in that but I also just subscribe to this I that but I also just subscribe to this I that but I also just subscribe to this I mean you can be able you have lots to mean you can be able you have lots to mean you can be able you have lots to choose from and there are arguments on choose from and there are arguments on choose from and there are arguments on all sides it's it's a buffet of all sides it's it's a buffet of all sides it's it's a buffet of intellectual reality orientation for intellectual reality orientation for intellectual reality orientation for yourself most periods in human history yourself most periods in human history yourself most periods in human history don't have this and in most periods of don't have this and in most periods of don't have this and in most periods of human history even where you could human history even where you could human history even where you could identify you could go to Athens in the identify you could go to Athens in the identify you could go to Athens in the classical Greek period and say well classical Greek period and say well classical Greek period and say well there were some thinkers they literally there were some thinkers they literally there were some thinkers they literally disagreed with the idea that magic disagreed with the idea that magic disagreed with the idea that magic existed or anything existed or anything existed or anything they're like the top they're like the top they're like the top point O three percent of the population point O three percent of the population point O three percent of the population right if the rest of the people believe right if the rest of the people believe right if the rest of the people believe in matching magic what does that mean in matching magic what does that mean in matching magic what does that mean and the reason I bring it up is because and the reason I bring it up is because and the reason I bring it up is because the people that Olympia shows up to the people that Olympia shows up to the people that Olympia shows up to believe the people where she's from are believe the people where she's from are believe the people where she's from are casters of spells and you know if you casters of spells and you know if you casters of spells and you know if you read the sources and you want to believe read the sources and you want to believe read the sources and you want to believe a Olympius didn't do a whole lot to a Olympius didn't do a whole lot to a Olympius didn't do a whole lot to dissuade them of that notion this was dissuade them of that notion this was dissuade them of that notion this was another thing that a teacher explained another thing that a teacher explained another thing that a teacher explained once a female teacher was trying to once a female teacher was trying to once a female teacher was trying to explain again not taking your modern explain again not taking your modern explain again not taking your modern template and putting it over a past era template and putting it over a past era template and putting it over a past era and trying to draw conclusions and she and trying to draw conclusions and she and trying to draw conclusions and she was talking about like an equal rights

was talking about like an equal rights was talking about like an equal rights thing between women and men because we thing between women and men because we thing between women and men because we as students and this was the 1980s we as students and this was the 1980s we as students and this was the 1980s we were trying to figure out how you didn't were trying to figure out how you didn't were trying to figure out how you didn't have more examples of societies where have more examples of societies where have more examples of societies where the 50% of the population that was the 50% of the population that was the 50% of the population that was female overthrew the existing order female overthrew the existing order female overthrew the existing order right just said enough of being treated right just said enough of being treated right just said enough of being treated like you know slaves or servants or like you know slaves or servants or like you know slaves or servants or chattel or property or whatever we've chattel or property or whatever we've chattel or property or whatever we've had it and she said because in a lot of had it and she said because in a lot of had it and she said because in a lot of these cultures they were culturally fit these cultures they were culturally fit these cultures they were culturally fit into their own places in society and into their own places in society and into their own places in society and these were not necessarily as powerless these were not necessarily as powerless these were not necessarily as powerless as we assume they are because we're as we assume they are because we're as we assume they are because we're judging them the way we would judge judging them the way we would judge judging them the way we would judge power does everybody have the same power does everybody have the same power does everybody have the same chance for example to lead the country chance for example to lead the country chance for example to lead the country or to be a general or to be in these or to be a general or to be in these or to be a general or to be in these positions of authority right are women positions of authority right are women positions of authority right are women giving the same opportunities as men but giving the same opportunities as men but giving the same opportunities as men but in some of these cultures they might not in some of these cultures they might not in some of these cultures they might not want that but they did have areas of want that but they did have areas of want that but they did have areas of their own power for example in the Greek their own power for example in the Greek their own power for example in the Greek world and places like makedonia and world and places like makedonia and world and places like makedonia and places like a Pyrus heck in places like places like a Pyrus heck in places like places like a Pyrus heck in places like ancient Germany and and the Kelton well ancient Germany and and the Kelton well ancient Germany and and the Kelton well a lot of other societies you can name a lot of other societies you can name a lot of other societies you can name the women were often dominant in a the women were often dominant in a the women were often dominant in a religious area and not always as like religious area and not always as like religious area and not always as like the high priest but always in these the high priest but always in these the high priest but always in these positions where they would have these positions where they would have these positions where they would have these relationships with the deity priestesses relationships with the deity priestesses relationships with the deity priestesses if you look at Alexander the Great's if you look at Alexander the Great's if you look at Alexander the Great's mother and you look at her life and mother and you look at her life and mother and you look at her life and we'll look at some highlights she comes we'll look at some highlights she comes we'll look at some highlights she comes out like a Dungeons & Dragons character out like a Dungeons & Dragons character out like a Dungeons & Dragons character sometime I said there were no dragons in sometime I said there were no dragons in sometime I said there were no dragons in this story but there are snakes she is a this story but there are snakes she is a this story but there are snakes she is a follower of Dionysus one of the most follower of Dionysus one of the most follower of Dionysus one of the most interesting gods if you go back and you

interesting gods if you go back and you interesting gods if you go back and you study you know ancient Greek mythology study you know ancient Greek mythology study you know ancient Greek mythology in a nutshell though you know my college in a nutshell though you know my college in a nutshell though you know my college buddies buddies buddies he's the god of partying but it's so he's the god of partying but it's so he's the god of partying but it's so much deeper than that yes wine okay so much deeper than that yes wine okay so much deeper than that yes wine okay so that they're drinking but there's ritual that they're drinking but there's ritual that they're drinking but there's ritual ecstasy there may be sexual orgies there ecstasy there may be sexual orgies there ecstasy there may be sexual orgies there it's let's put it this way it's one of it's let's put it this way it's one of it's let's put it this way it's one of those things where I mean I imagine one those things where I mean I imagine one those things where I mean I imagine one guy would wink at another guy and go you guy would wink at another guy and go you guy would wink at another guy and go you know she's a follower of Dionysus um but know she's a follower of Dionysus um but know she's a follower of Dionysus um but in the case of somebody like Olympius it in the case of somebody like Olympius it in the case of somebody like Olympius it made her intimidating and the sources made her intimidating and the sources made her intimidating and the sources make it sound like she intimidates make it sound like she intimidates make it sound like she intimidates philip ii philip ii how do you philip ii philip ii how do you philip ii philip ii how do you intimidate the greatest man of his day intimidate the greatest man of his day intimidate the greatest man of his day and age let me read you Peter Green's and age let me read you Peter Green's and age let me read you Peter Green's description and I love Peter Green this description and I love Peter Green this description and I love Peter Green this was written in 1970 but he's one of was written in 1970 but he's one of was written in 1970 but he's one of those people who raised me on this era those people who raised me on this era those people who raised me on this era in this region and I still feel like he in this region and I still feel like he in this region and I still feel like he sets up the legend let's call it the sets up the legend let's call it the sets up the legend let's call it the legend of Olympius and how is there no legend of Olympius and how is there no legend of Olympius and how is there no movie about this this womanless he sets movie about this this womanless he sets movie about this this womanless he sets it up perfectly now remember she walks it up perfectly now remember she walks it up perfectly now remember she walks into a scene let me set it up for you into a scene let me set it up for you into a scene let me set it up for you that's like a mafia crime family when that's like a mafia crime family when that's like a mafia crime family when Oliver Stone made his alexander film Oliver Stone made his alexander film Oliver Stone made his alexander film there were rumors that martin scorsese there were rumors that martin scorsese there were rumors that martin scorsese had been thinking about making one of had been thinking about making one of had been thinking about making one of his own and i thought oh that would be his own and i thought oh that would be his own and i thought oh that would be perfect cuz that would fit my image of perfect cuz that would fit my image of perfect cuz that would fit my image of the scene you know Scorsese's The the scene you know Scorsese's The the scene you know Scorsese's The Godfather if you'll pardon the pun of Godfather if you'll pardon the pun of Godfather if you'll pardon the pun of the mafia genre of movies you could take the mafia genre of movies you could take the mafia genre of movies you could take that template throw it over the that template throw it over the that template throw it over the makedonia in royal house the dynamics of makedonia in royal house the dynamics of makedonia in royal house the dynamics of it add a lot more alcohol and a lot of it add a lot more alcohol and a lot of it add a lot more alcohol and a lot of homosexuality and end up with something homosexuality and end up with something homosexuality and end up with something like The Sopranos on a week-by-week

like The Sopranos on a week-by-week like The Sopranos on a week-by-week basis where somebody's getting whacked basis where somebody's getting whacked basis where somebody's getting whacked somebody's getting poisoned you don't somebody's getting poisoned you don't somebody's getting poisoned you don't have love triangles you have love have love triangles you have love have love triangles you have love hexagons heck it's all violence you have hexagons heck it's all violence you have hexagons heck it's all violence you have love octagons imagine the complexity love octagons imagine the complexity love octagons imagine the complexity when you're not just dealing with the when you're not just dealing with the when you're not just dealing with the other woman because he's makedonia and other woman because he's makedonia and other woman because he's makedonia and kings often had multiple wives you're kings often had multiple wives you're kings often had multiple wives you're dealing with all the male lovers of the dealing with all the male lovers of the dealing with all the male lovers of the makedonia King and you all may be makedonia King and you all may be makedonia King and you all may be jealous and gossiping and talking with jealous and gossiping and talking with jealous and gossiping and talking with each other it is an explosive situation each other it is an explosive situation each other it is an explosive situation that leads to people getting killed that leads to people getting killed that leads to people getting killed pretty often in makedonia in history to pretty often in makedonia in history to pretty often in makedonia in history to show you how weird it can get by modern show you how weird it can get by modern show you how weird it can get by modern standards at one point in this story standards at one point in this story standards at one point in this story Olympius and philip will be marrying off Olympius and philip will be marrying off Olympius and philip will be marrying off their daughter cleopatra who is their daughter cleopatra who is their daughter cleopatra who is Alexander the Great's full sister to Alexander the Great's full sister to Alexander the Great's full sister to Olympia sees bra Olympia sees bra Olympia sees bra also named Alexander of Molossia so also named Alexander of Molossia so also named Alexander of Molossia so that's Cleopatra's uncle their wedding that's Cleopatra's uncle their wedding that's Cleopatra's uncle their wedding her too now Alexander Molossia her too now Alexander Molossia her too now Alexander Molossia Cleopatra's uncle who is marrying Cleopatra's uncle who is marrying Cleopatra's uncle who is marrying Cleopatra now is also rumoured to have Cleopatra now is also rumoured to have Cleopatra now is also rumoured to have been the lover of Philip as well and been the lover of Philip as well and been the lover of Philip as well and Philip kind of put Alexander on the Philip kind of put Alexander on the Philip kind of put Alexander on the throne of a Pyrus so um it's a throne of a Pyrus so um it's a throne of a Pyrus so um it's a complicated dynamic isn't it and if complicated dynamic isn't it and if complicated dynamic isn't it and if you're a fan of the ancient world this you're a fan of the ancient world this you're a fan of the ancient world this doesn't put you off this is part of the doesn't put you off this is part of the doesn't put you off this is part of the attraction like going and being part of attraction like going and being part of attraction like going and being part of a landing party at a very strange planet a landing party at a very strange planet a landing party at a very strange planet where the customs are very different where the customs are very different where the customs are very different here's what Peter Greene wrote in 1970 here's what Peter Greene wrote in 1970 here's what Peter Greene wrote in 1970 about this young girl from this about this young girl from this about this young girl from this out-of-the-way place known for poisoners out-of-the-way place known for poisoners out-of-the-way place known for poisoners and spellcasters when she shows up in

and spellcasters when she shows up in and spellcasters when she shows up in this mafia cry they're not Gambino's and this mafia cry they're not Gambino's and this mafia cry they're not Gambino's and bananas bananas bananas there are Jed's they are the descendants there are Jed's they are the descendants there are Jed's they are the descendants of Hercules or Heracles is the better of Hercules or Heracles is the better of Hercules or Heracles is the better word for it and she shows up and she's word for it and she shows up and she's word for it and she shows up and she's descended from her own royal line which descended from her own royal line which descended from her own royal line which goes back to a different demigod goes back to a different demigod goes back to a different demigod Achilles and she's proud of it and aware Achilles and she's proud of it and aware Achilles and she's proud of it and aware of it and just like the fact that philip of it and just like the fact that philip of it and just like the fact that philip ii is proud and aware that he's supposed ii is proud and aware that he's supposed ii is proud and aware that he's supposed to be descendant from Heracles is the to be descendant from Heracles is the to be descendant from Heracles is the son of Zeus of course it influences the son of Zeus of course it influences the son of Zeus of course it influences the way her self-image is and the way she way her self-image is and the way she way her self-image is and the way she expects to be treated and the way she'll expects to be treated and the way she'll expects to be treated and the way she'll conduct herself Peter Green writes quote conduct herself Peter Green writes quote conduct herself Peter Green writes quote at all events in the autumn of 357 at all events in the autumn of 357 at all events in the autumn of 357 Philip married as a pirate princess and Philip married as a pirate princess and Philip married as a pirate princess and for the first time in his life found for the first time in his life found for the first time in his life found he'd taken on rather more than he could he'd taken on rather more than he could he'd taken on rather more than he could handle handle handle Olympius though not yet 18 had already Olympius though not yet 18 had already Olympius though not yet 18 had already emerged as a forceful not to say emerged as a forceful not to say emerged as a forceful not to say eccentric personality she was among eccentric personality she was among eccentric personality she was among other things passionately devoted to the other things passionately devoted to the other things passionately devoted to the orgy astok writes of Dionysus and her orgy astok writes of Dionysus and her orgy astok writes of Dionysus and her mean attic frenzies can scarcely have mean attic frenzies can scarcely have mean attic frenzies can scarcely have been conducive to a peaceful domestic been conducive to a peaceful domestic been conducive to a peaceful domestic life one of her more outre habits unless life one of her more outre habits unless life one of her more outre habits unless as has been suggested it had a ritual as has been suggested it had a ritual as has been suggested it had a ritual origin was keeping an assortment of origin was keeping an assortment of origin was keeping an assortment of large tame snakes as pets to employ large tame snakes as pets to employ large tame snakes as pets to employ these creatures on religious occasions these creatures on religious occasions these creatures on religious occasions could raise no objections but their could raise no objections but their could raise no objections but their intermittent appearance in Olympia's

intermittent appearance in Olympia's intermittent appearance in Olympia's bad must have been a hazard calculated bad must have been a hazard calculated bad must have been a hazard calculated to put even the toughest bridegroom off to put even the toughest bridegroom off to put even the toughest bridegroom off his stroke his stroke his stroke our sources furthermore while admitting our sources furthermore while admitting our sources furthermore while admitting Olympius is beauty described her Olympius is beauty described her Olympius is beauty described her variously as sullen jealous variously as sullen jealous variously as sullen jealous bloody-minded bloody-minded bloody-minded arrogant headstrong and meddlesome to arrogant headstrong and meddlesome to arrogant headstrong and meddlesome to these attributes we may add towering these attributes we may add towering these attributes we may add towering political ambition and a literally political ambition and a literally political ambition and a literally murderous temper she was determined to murderous temper she was determined to murderous temper she was determined to be Queen in something more than name be Queen in something more than name be Queen in something more than name this did not endear her to the makedonia this did not endear her to the makedonia this did not endear her to the makedonia and barons end quote I love that line and barons end quote I love that line and barons end quote I love that line from Peter green where he says that from Peter green where he says that from Peter green where he says that Olympius gave philip ii maybe something Olympius gave philip ii maybe something Olympius gave philip ii maybe something he couldn't handle because if you look he couldn't handle because if you look he couldn't handle because if you look at the history books this guy's mo is at the history books this guy's mo is at the history books this guy's mo is kind of that he's a guy no one else can kind of that he's a guy no one else can kind of that he's a guy no one else can handle and yet this 17-year eighteen handle and yet this 17-year eighteen handle and yet this 17-year eighteen year old a pirate princess has given him year old a pirate princess has given him year old a pirate princess has given him trouble I should point out that when trouble I should point out that when trouble I should point out that when they get married he's got some life they get married he's got some life they get married he's got some life experience on her too he's 25 I think experience on her too he's 25 I think experience on her too he's 25 I think he's already got a couple of wives and he's already got a couple of wives and he's already got a couple of wives and they're not shrinking violets either they're not shrinking violets either they're not shrinking violets either he's married to an illyrian princess he's married to an illyrian princess he's married to an illyrian princess that if the sources are to be believed that if the sources are to be believed that if the sources are to be believed is trained in hand-to-hand combat sword is trained in hand-to-hand combat sword is trained in hand-to-hand combat sword shield helmet the whole thing so she'll shield helmet the whole thing so she'll shield helmet the whole thing so she'll kill you and he's not having any trouble kill you and he's not having any trouble kill you and he's not having any trouble handling her so what's so special about handling her so what's so special about handling her so what's so special about Olympius historian Richard a Gabriel Olympius historian Richard a Gabriel Olympius historian Richard a Gabriel wrote a whole book on philip ii and he wrote a whole book on philip ii and he wrote a whole book on philip ii and he tries to cut down the list of the man's tries to cut down the list of the man's tries to cut down the list of the man's achievements his formidable nature and

achievements his formidable nature and achievements his formidable nature and all that stuff to a single paragraph and all that stuff to a single paragraph and all that stuff to a single paragraph and this is the way he describes the guy and this is the way he describes the guy and this is the way he describes the guy and as i said you think to yourself this is as i said you think to yourself this is as i said you think to yourself this is not the kind of person you would imagine not the kind of person you would imagine not the kind of person you would imagine having any trouble with anyone or having any trouble with anyone or having any trouble with anyone or putting up with any flack from anyone putting up with any flack from anyone putting up with any flack from anyone gabriel writes quote philip ii of gabriel writes quote philip ii of gabriel writes quote philip ii of makedonia lived 382 BCE to 336 BCE makedonia lived 382 BCE to 336 BCE makedonia lived 382 BCE to 336 BCE father of alexander the great dynastic father of alexander the great dynastic father of alexander the great dynastic heir to the our jade kings who trace heir to the our jade kings who trace heir to the our jade kings who trace their lineage to Heracles son of the their lineage to Heracles son of the their lineage to Heracles son of the Temin ed family from argos that had Temin ed family from argos that had Temin ed family from argos that had ruled makedonia since the 8th century ruled makedonia since the 8th century ruled makedonia since the 8th century BCE unifier of greece author of Greece's BCE unifier of greece author of Greece's BCE unifier of greece author of Greece's first federal constant first federal constant first federal constant tution creator of the first national tution creator of the first national tution creator of the first national state in europe the first general of the state in europe the first general of the state in europe the first general of the greek imperial age founder of europe's greek imperial age founder of europe's greek imperial age founder of europe's first great land Empire and Greece's first great land Empire and Greece's first great land Empire and Greece's greatest general was one of the greatest general was one of the greatest general was one of the preeminent statesmen of the ancient preeminent statesmen of the ancient preeminent statesmen of the ancient world it was Philip who saved makedonia world it was Philip who saved makedonia world it was Philip who saved makedonia from disintegration military occupation from disintegration military occupation from disintegration military occupation and eventual destruction by securing it and eventual destruction by securing it and eventual destruction by securing it against external enemies and by bringing against external enemies and by bringing against external enemies and by bringing into existence Europe's first national into existence Europe's first national into existence Europe's first national territorial state an entirely new form territorial state an entirely new form territorial state an entirely new form of political organization in the West he of political organization in the West he of political organization in the West he continues having made makedonia safe continues having made makedonia safe continues having made makedonia safe Philip developed mining agriculture Philip developed mining agriculture Philip developed mining agriculture urbanization trade Commerce and Greek urbanization trade Commerce and Greek urbanization trade Commerce and Greek culture and transformed a semi-feudal

culture and transformed a semi-feudal culture and transformed a semi-feudal tribal pastoral society into a tribal pastoral society into a tribal pastoral society into a centralized national state governed by a centralized national state governed by a centralized national state governed by a powerful monarchy and protected by a powerful monarchy and protected by a powerful monarchy and protected by a modern army end quote modern army end quote modern army end quote and couldn't easily handle a 17 or 18 and couldn't easily handle a 17 or 18 and couldn't easily handle a 17 or 18 year old pirate princess that's year old pirate princess that's year old pirate princess that's fascinating fascinating fascinating and listen timing is everything right I and listen timing is everything right I and listen timing is everything right I mean if this app I wrote princess shows mean if this app I wrote princess shows mean if this app I wrote princess shows up and marries some obscure Balkan king up and marries some obscure Balkan king up and marries some obscure Balkan king who never does anything we never hear who never does anything we never hear who never does anything we never hear about her forceful personality but about her forceful personality but about her forceful personality but because she joins the makedonia new oil because she joins the makedonia new oil because she joins the makedonia new oil family when the makedonia historical family when the makedonia historical family when the makedonia historical stock is about to go from nothing to stock is about to go from nothing to stock is about to go from nothing to spectacular she's there you know for the spectacular she's there you know for the spectacular she's there you know for the ride and she has a huge influence on it ride and she has a huge influence on it ride and she has a huge influence on it and this forceful personality is going and this forceful personality is going and this forceful personality is going to get amplified by the growing power of to get amplified by the growing power of to get amplified by the growing power of the makedonia --nz on world affairs and the makedonia --nz on world affairs and the makedonia --nz on world affairs and this guy she marries is gonna play a this guy she marries is gonna play a this guy she marries is gonna play a huge role in that and then the Sun she huge role in that and then the Sun she huge role in that and then the Sun she sires is going to do the rest of it in sires is going to do the rest of it in sires is going to do the rest of it in 356 the year after the wedding basically 356 the year after the wedding basically 356 the year after the wedding basically she and Philip welcome young Alexander she and Philip welcome young Alexander she and Philip welcome young Alexander into the world and now Olympia says into the world and now Olympia says into the world and now Olympia says status change is part of the reason status change is part of the reason status change is part of the reason maybe Philip couldn't handle her the way maybe Philip couldn't handle her the way maybe Philip couldn't handle her the way he could some other wife is all of a he could some other wife is all of a he could some other wife is all of a sudden she seems to be the mother of the sudden she seems to be the mother of the sudden she seems to be the mother of the prospective heir and that changes things prospective heir and that changes things prospective heir and that changes things and and her power base forever and and her power base forever and and her power base forever afterwards is going to be this afterwards is going to be this afterwards is going to be this connection she has connection she has connection she has - Alexander normally in history the

- Alexander normally in history the - Alexander normally in history the mother of a king gets left out of the mother of a king gets left out of the mother of a king gets left out of the question about the Kings qualities I question about the Kings qualities I question about the Kings qualities I mean this is even true up until recent mean this is even true up until recent mean this is even true up until recent times huh how often do you read about times huh how often do you read about times huh how often do you read about some historical figure some great some historical figure some great some historical figure some great historical Conqueror or unifier of historical Conqueror or unifier of historical Conqueror or unifier of states or however you want to frame it states or however you want to frame it states or however you want to frame it and then someone speak about his mother and then someone speak about his mother and then someone speak about his mother you'll hear sometimes the whole you know you'll hear sometimes the whole you know you'll hear sometimes the whole you know the king has a son who's a chip off the the king has a son who's a chip off the the king has a son who's a chip off the old block right looks just like his dad old block right looks just like his dad old block right looks just like his dad carries on the family mission you can carries on the family mission you can carries on the family mission you can find that example all throughout history find that example all throughout history find that example all throughout history but you rarely hear someone say yes you but you rarely hear someone say yes you but you rarely hear someone say yes you know has his mother's qualities but you know has his mother's qualities but you know has his mother's qualities but you do with Alexander and you're tempted to do with Alexander and you're tempted to do with Alexander and you're tempted to suggest I mean this is just my theory suggest I mean this is just my theory suggest I mean this is just my theory but it seems obvious to me you can send but it seems obvious to me you can send but it seems obvious to me you can send me an email and tell me how wrong I am me an email and tell me how wrong I am me an email and tell me how wrong I am because no no worries there but I mean because no no worries there but I mean because no no worries there but I mean it almost seems like they'd ignore it if it almost seems like they'd ignore it if it almost seems like they'd ignore it if they could but it's so obvious they they could but it's so obvious they they could but it's so obvious they can't does that make sense he's so can't does that make sense he's so can't does that make sense he's so obviously a product heavily influenced obviously a product heavily influenced obviously a product heavily influenced by his mother you'd be a fool to deny it by his mother you'd be a fool to deny it by his mother you'd be a fool to deny it I hate to think that that might just be I hate to think that that might just be I hate to think that that might just be a story I don't think so a story I don't think so a story I don't think so when Alexander's young supposedly the when Alexander's young supposedly the when Alexander's young supposedly the precocious nature of the child is precocious nature of the child is precocious nature of the child is noticed this can all be stuff written noticed this can all be stuff written noticed this can all be stuff written after the fact Alexander put on a ton of after the fact Alexander put on a ton of after the fact Alexander put on a ton of propaganda in his life and it's colored propaganda in his life and it's colored propaganda in his life and it's colored the narrative and polluted it ever since the narrative and polluted it ever since the narrative and polluted it ever since none of the two things that Olympius none of the two things that Olympius none of the two things that Olympius traditionally brings to this Alexander traditionally brings to this Alexander traditionally brings to this Alexander influenced question are you know her influenced question are you know her influenced question are you know her influences as a mother a close personal influences as a mother a close personal influences as a mother a close personal confidant and parent of Alexander right

confidant and parent of Alexander right confidant and parent of Alexander right so you'd say her social influences and so you'd say her social influences and so you'd say her social influences and her DNA so the things Olympius brings to her DNA so the things Olympius brings to her DNA so the things Olympius brings to the table here the DNA side is easy to the table here the DNA side is easy to the table here the DNA side is easy to understand I mean it sounds to me like understand I mean it sounds to me like understand I mean it sounds to me like if we were at a cocktail party in modern if we were at a cocktail party in modern if we were at a cocktail party in modern times and Philip and Olympius were there times and Philip and Olympius were there times and Philip and Olympius were there and they didn't even know each other and and they didn't even know each other and and they didn't even know each other and they were just sort of talking for the they were just sort of talking for the they were just sort of talking for the first time and you overheard their first time and you overheard their first time and you overheard their conversation and watched them they would conversation and watched them they would conversation and watched them they would be the kind of people you would go I be the kind of people you would go I be the kind of people you would go I wonder what kind of kids those two wonder what kind of kids those two wonder what kind of kids those two people would have right so they sound people would have right so they sound people would have right so they sound like formidable people to begin with and like formidable people to begin with and like formidable people to begin with and the Greeks wouldn't have thought about the Greeks wouldn't have thought about the Greeks wouldn't have thought about DNA the way we do but they sure did DNA the way we do but they sure did DNA the way we do but they sure did think about things like lineage and think about things like lineage and think about things like lineage and that's why it that's why it that's why it here all this talk about Alexander here all this talk about Alexander here all this talk about Alexander Heracles is descended on this side and Heracles is descended on this side and Heracles is descended on this side and Achilles on that side because it has a Achilles on that side because it has a Achilles on that side because it has a lot of power if everybody buys into that lot of power if everybody buys into that lot of power if everybody buys into that Alexander bought into it and his mother Alexander bought into it and his mother Alexander bought into it and his mother and part of her role in all this is and part of her role in all this is and part of her role in all this is she's telling him this stuff and telling she's telling him this stuff and telling she's telling him this stuff and telling him not to forget it one of her him not to forget it one of her him not to forget it one of her reputations historically speaking is reputations historically speaking is reputations historically speaking is that she's constantly whispering into that she's constantly whispering into that she's constantly whispering into Alexander's ear you know don't forget Alexander's ear you know don't forget Alexander's ear you know don't forget who you are don't forget your lineage so besides the don't forget your lineage so besides the DNA the personality question that comes DNA the personality question that comes DNA the personality question that comes into play here and what she did the into play here and what she did the into play here and what she did the influence that well this is where things influence that well this is where things influence that well this is where things get more interesting because this is get more interesting because this is get more interesting because this is where the magic gets involved right if where the magic gets involved right if where the magic gets involved right if she's telling her son that he's not she's telling her son that he's not she's telling her son that he's not necessarily just a descendent from necessarily just a descendent from necessarily just a descendent from Achilles you know many generations up Achilles you know many generations up Achilles you know many generations up the family tree but perhaps that he's

the family tree but perhaps that he's the family tree but perhaps that he's related to a God in a much more close related to a God in a much more close related to a God in a much more close way than that that Philip the seconds way than that that Philip the seconds way than that that Philip the seconds not his dad Zeus the king of the gods is not his dad Zeus the king of the gods is not his dad Zeus the king of the gods is his dad oh let's turn to Plutarch shall his dad oh let's turn to Plutarch shall his dad oh let's turn to Plutarch shall we because he's so fun on stories like we because he's so fun on stories like we because he's so fun on stories like this but but if they believed it this is this but but if they believed it this is this but but if they believed it this is where the power of mass collective where the power of mass collective where the power of mass collective belief right these people don't believe belief right these people don't believe belief right these people don't believe in the Newtonian laws of physics like we in the Newtonian laws of physics like we in the Newtonian laws of physics like we do they believe I mean poot arcs writing do they believe I mean poot arcs writing do they believe I mean poot arcs writing hundreds of years later and says this hundreds of years later and says this hundreds of years later and says this note that there is no question is the note that there is no question is the note that there is no question is the way he phrases it quote as for the way he phrases it quote as for the way he phrases it quote as for the lineage of Alexander on his father's lineage of Alexander on his father's lineage of Alexander on his father's side he was a descendant of Heracles side he was a descendant of Heracles side he was a descendant of Heracles through Karen s and on his mother's side through Karen s and on his mother's side through Karen s and on his mother's side a descendant of I believe it's yeah cos a descendant of I believe it's yeah cos a descendant of I believe it's yeah cos through Neoptolemus this is accepted through Neoptolemus this is accepted through Neoptolemus this is accepted without any question without any question without any question he writes then Plutarch writing hundreds he writes then Plutarch writing hundreds he writes then Plutarch writing hundreds of years later by the way talks about of years later by the way talks about of years later by the way talks about Philip meaning Olympius at a religious Philip meaning Olympius at a religious Philip meaning Olympius at a religious festival once again Olympius always sort festival once again Olympius always sort festival once again Olympius always sort of associated with the mysteries of of associated with the mysteries of of associated with the mysteries of Dionysus and I should apologize to Dionysus and I should apologize to Dionysus and I should apologize to Dionysus I didn't mean to Dionysus I didn't mean to Dionysus I didn't mean to simply write him off as just the god of simply write him off as just the god of simply write him off as just the god of partying earlier Dionysus has a partying earlier Dionysus has a partying earlier Dionysus has a fertility connection very powerful old fertility connection very powerful old fertility connection very powerful old God in this in this pantheon and you God in this in this pantheon and you God in this in this pantheon and you wouldn't want to have him angry with you wouldn't want to have him angry with you wouldn't want to have him angry with you and no one would during the time period and no one would during the time period and no one would during the time period so if you actually believe that Olympius so if you actually believe that Olympius so if you actually believe that Olympius has some sort of priests dislike

has some sort of priests dislike has some sort of priests dislike connection to the God you might steer connection to the God you might steer connection to the God you might steer clear of her too but as we said maybe more than Dionysus but as we said maybe more than Dionysus we might be talking about someone who at we might be talking about someone who at we might be talking about someone who at least people believed might be a little least people believed might be a little least people believed might be a little closer to the gods as we said Plutarch closer to the gods as we said Plutarch closer to the gods as we said Plutarch wrote later quote and he's talking about wrote later quote and he's talking about wrote later quote and he's talking about the night before Philip marries Olympius the night before Philip marries Olympius the night before Philip marries Olympius quote the night before that on which the quote the night before that on which the quote the night before that on which the marriage was consummated the bride marriage was consummated the bride marriage was consummated the bride dreamed that there was a peal of thunder dreamed that there was a peal of thunder dreamed that there was a peal of thunder and that a thunderbolt fell upon her and that a thunderbolt fell upon her and that a thunderbolt fell upon her womb and that there by much fire was womb and that there by much fire was womb and that there by much fire was kindled which broke into flames that kindled which broke into flames that kindled which broke into flames that traveled all about and then was traveled all about and then was traveled all about and then was extinguished at a later time - after the extinguished at a later time - after the extinguished at a later time - after the marriage marriage marriage Philip dreamed that he was putting a Philip dreamed that he was putting a Philip dreamed that he was putting a seal upon his wife's womb and the device seal upon his wife's womb and the device seal upon his wife's womb and the device of the seal as he thought was the figure of the seal as he thought was the figure of the seal as he thought was the figure of a lion end quote of a lion end quote of a lion end quote gotta love the ancient history for the gotta love the ancient history for the gotta love the ancient history for the good weird stuff apparently according to good weird stuff apparently according to good weird stuff apparently according to Plutarch Philip goes to a bunch of seers Plutarch Philip goes to a bunch of seers Plutarch Philip goes to a bunch of seers and asked them what does all this mean and asked them what does all this mean and asked them what does all this mean and most of them say you got to keep a and most of them say you got to keep a and most of them say you got to keep a closer eye on your wife right make sure closer eye on your wife right make sure closer eye on your wife right make sure no one's coming into the marriage bed no one's coming into the marriage bed no one's coming into the marriage bed that you don't know about but Philip that you don't know about but Philip that you don't know about but Philip apparently if you believe Plutarch he apparently if you believe Plutarch he apparently if you believe Plutarch he seems less worried about death and then seems less worried about death and then seems less worried about death and then what he does know about here's what what he does know about here's what what he does know about here's what Plutarch says he's quoting by the way Plutarch says he's quoting by the way Plutarch says he's quoting by the way another one of these seers that says another one of these seers that says another one of these seers that says quote a serpent was once seen lying quote a serpent was once seen lying quote a serpent was once seen lying stretched out by the side of Olympius as stretched out by the side of Olympius as stretched out by the side of Olympius as she slept and we are told that this more she slept and we are told that this more she slept and we are told that this more than anything else than anything else than anything else dulled the ardor of Philips attentions

dulled the ardor of Philips attentions dulled the ardor of Philips attentions to his wife so that he no longer came to his wife so that he no longer came to his wife so that he no longer came often to sleep by her side either often to sleep by her side either often to sleep by her side either because he feared that some spells and because he feared that some spells and because he feared that some spells and enchantments might be practiced upon him enchantments might be practiced upon him enchantments might be practiced upon him by her or because he shrank from her by her or because he shrank from her by her or because he shrank from her embraces in the conviction that she was embraces in the conviction that she was embraces in the conviction that she was the partner of a superior being end the partner of a superior being end the partner of a superior being end quote quote quote understand this is the sort of stuff understand this is the sort of stuff understand this is the sort of stuff that Alexander's propaganda might wanted that Alexander's propaganda might wanted that Alexander's propaganda might wanted to play up but it's part of this to play up but it's part of this to play up but it's part of this character of this woman is it true it character of this woman is it true it character of this woman is it true it could be is magic true no does it have could be is magic true no does it have could be is magic true no does it have an influence if people believe it yeah an influence if people believe it yeah an influence if people believe it yeah if Alexander was trying to make people if Alexander was trying to make people if Alexander was trying to make people think he was the son of a God might a think he was the son of a God might a think he was the son of a God might a story like that you know help his case story like that you know help his case story like that you know help his case fake news goes way back I mean it's fake news goes way back I mean it's fake news goes way back I mean it's worth asking an obvious question and you worth asking an obvious question and you worth asking an obvious question and you can ask this about a lot of historical can ask this about a lot of historical can ask this about a lot of historical events and the farther back in history events and the farther back in history events and the farther back in history you go the more easily you can ask it you go the more easily you can ask it you go the more easily you can ask it how much of this is true how much of how much of this is true how much of how much of this is true how much of this is a story or a fable it's hard to this is a story or a fable it's hard to this is a story or a fable it's hard to know it's part of what makes the job of know it's part of what makes the job of know it's part of what makes the job of historians and you know I'm not one I'm historians and you know I'm not one I'm historians and you know I'm not one I'm a fan I'm an admirer from afar their a fan I'm an admirer from afar their a fan I'm an admirer from afar their jobs are fascinating they're detectives jobs are fascinating they're detectives jobs are fascinating they're detectives they're doing investigative research they're doing investigative research they're doing investigative research they start with these sources that have they start with these sources that have they start with these sources that have come down to us right somehow through come down to us right somehow through come down to us right somehow through all the fire and earthquakes war and all the fire and earthquakes war and all the fire and earthquakes war and everything that's happened since since everything that's happened since since everything that's happened since since early times information makes it through early times information makes it through early times information makes it through the pipeline but it's a tiny tiny the pipeline but it's a tiny tiny the pipeline but it's a tiny tiny fraction of what was originally there

fraction of what was originally there fraction of what was originally there and oftentimes you don't get it directly and oftentimes you don't get it directly and oftentimes you don't get it directly you don't get a scroll from the you don't get a scroll from the you don't get a scroll from the Alexandrian library so you can read Alexandrian library so you can read Alexandrian library so you can read ptolemies memoirs you know in the ptolemies memoirs you know in the ptolemies memoirs you know in the original right there you get copies of original right there you get copies of original right there you get copies of copies of copies and the people who copies of copies and the people who copies of copies and the people who write and do the copying this was a by write and do the copying this was a by write and do the copying this was a by hand thing right are from much later hand thing right are from much later hand thing right are from much later errors with very different values and errors with very different values and errors with very different values and they copy what they want and maybe the they copy what they want and maybe the they copy what they want and maybe the way they want part of the job of the way they want part of the job of the way they want part of the job of the historical investigator is to sit there historical investigator is to sit there historical investigator is to sit there and sift through all that and it would and sift through all that and it would and sift through all that and it would be easy if all you had to deal with is a be easy if all you had to deal with is a be easy if all you had to deal with is a scroll from Alexander's time and try to scroll from Alexander's time and try to scroll from Alexander's time and try to weed out Alexander's personal propaganda weed out Alexander's personal propaganda weed out Alexander's personal propaganda that he embedded into it but then what that he embedded into it but then what that he embedded into it but then what happens when a Roman gets their hands on happens when a Roman gets their hands on happens when a Roman gets their hands on it to write the history of Alexander it to write the history of Alexander it to write the history of Alexander hundreds of years after Alexander hundreds of years after Alexander hundreds of years after Alexander farther away from Alexander than we are farther away from Alexander than we are farther away from Alexander than we are from George Washington's time now what from George Washington's time now what from George Washington's time now what sources are they using well sources are they using well sources are they using well theoretically they're going to libraries theoretically they're going to libraries theoretically they're going to libraries too and they're you know digging out too and they're you know digging out too and they're you know digging out scrolls and something like Ptolemies in scrolls and something like Ptolemies in scrolls and something like Ptolemies in one of Alexander's generals and his one of Alexander's generals and his one of Alexander's generals and his memoirs are gonna be there theoretically memoirs are gonna be there theoretically memoirs are gonna be there theoretically and and the historians can actually this and and the historians can actually this and and the historians can actually this is they're so fast they can sit there is they're so fast they can sit there is they're so fast they can sit there and and connect and and connect and and connect points to say well he was probably using points to say well he was probably using points to say well he was probably using Ptolemies memoirs because this other guy Ptolemies memoirs because this other guy Ptolemies memoirs because this other guy says the same thing so I mean it's says the same thing so I mean it's says the same thing so I mean it's fascinating detective work fascinating detective work fascinating detective work but its ever-changing and every time you but its ever-changing and every time you but its ever-changing and every time you find something new you have to alter the find something new you have to alter the find something new you have to alter the paradigm a little and Olympius is even paradigm a little and Olympius is even paradigm a little and Olympius is even harder for two reasons one because she's harder for two reasons one because she's harder for two reasons one because she's being written about as an addendum to being written about as an addendum to being written about as an addendum to other stories where she's Alexander's other stories where she's Alexander's other stories where she's Alexander's mother so when someone writes a piece mother so when someone writes a piece mother so when someone writes a piece about Alexander she's one of the about Alexander she's one of the about Alexander she's one of the characters in that story the other

characters in that story the other characters in that story the other reason as we said is because she's a reason as we said is because she's a reason as we said is because she's a woman and when you think about the woman and when you think about the woman and when you think about the different copies and errors and filters different copies and errors and filters different copies and errors and filters that this original story has to go that this original story has to go that this original story has to go through before it gets to us now you through before it gets to us now you through before it gets to us now you think about the different attitudes think about the different attitudes think about the different attitudes towards women that the original towards women that the original towards women that the original makedonia pnes had that Alexander's makedonia pnes had that Alexander's makedonia pnes had that Alexander's propaganda might have might have seen propaganda might have might have seen propaganda might have might have seen things by then you think about their things by then you think about their things by then you think about their changing status in Roman times then changing status in Roman times then changing status in Roman times then think about the post Roman world and and think about the post Roman world and and think about the post Roman world and and the Middle Ages when you've got monks the Middle Ages when you've got monks the Middle Ages when you've got monks and scribes copying this stuff in a and scribes copying this stuff in a and scribes copying this stuff in a religious context I mean this is hard religious context I mean this is hard religious context I mean this is hard stuff to try to figure out the stuff we stuff to try to figure out the stuff we stuff to try to figure out the stuff we have from Olympius or about Olympius have from Olympius or about Olympius have from Olympius or about Olympius rather is is has made it through that rather is is has made it through that rather is is has made it through that same pipeline and so trying to dissect same pipeline and so trying to dissect same pipeline and so trying to dissect the fables from the stories from the the fables from the stories from the the fables from the stories from the truth really difficult the one thing you truth really difficult the one thing you truth really difficult the one thing you try to work on and hang everything on try to work on and hang everything on try to work on and hang everything on are these data points right data point are these data points right data point are these data points right data point number one Olympius mary's philip seems number one Olympius mary's philip seems number one Olympius mary's philip seems to be a concrete moment this is a to be a concrete moment this is a to be a concrete moment this is a connect-the-dots game there's a dot connect-the-dots game there's a dot connect-the-dots game there's a dot Olympius gives birth to Alexander the Olympius gives birth to Alexander the Olympius gives birth to Alexander the Great boom another data point connect Great boom another data point connect Great boom another data point connect that dot there are going to be periods that dot there are going to be periods that dot there are going to be periods in her life where we are missing data in her life where we are missing data in her life where we are missing data points right she's not bowing to the points right she's not bowing to the points right she's not bowing to the Alexander story nothing is going on with Alexander story nothing is going on with Alexander story nothing is going on with olympia snowe so fast for and we're olympia snowe so fast for and we're olympia snowe so fast for and we're gonna fast for yada yada yada cuz we gonna fast for yada yada yada cuz we gonna fast for yada yada yada cuz we don't know what's going on there are don't know what's going on there are don't know what's going on there are things we can infer cuz we can see things we can infer cuz we can see things we can infer cuz we can see what's going on at the same time her what's going on at the same time her what's going on at the same time her husband Phillip is off doing his you husband Phillip is off doing his you husband Phillip is off doing his you know making his obituary essentially know making his obituary essentially know making his obituary essentially he's piling up the achievements this is he's piling up the achievements this is he's piling up the achievements this is the period in his life he's laid that the period in his life he's laid that the period in his life he's laid that foundation that we said earlier foundation that we said earlier foundation that we said earlier now he's capitalizing on it my mythical now he's capitalizing on it my mythical now he's capitalizing on it my mythical producer Ben had suggested casting some

producer Ben had suggested casting some producer Ben had suggested casting some of these people and I thought you know of these people and I thought you know of these people and I thought you know like trying to figure out if you like like trying to figure out if you like like trying to figure out if you like Angelina Jolie but you didn't like Val Angelina Jolie but you didn't like Val Angelina Jolie but you didn't like Val Kilmer is full of who would you like us Kilmer is full of who would you like us Kilmer is full of who would you like us Phillip and I spent a stupid amount of Phillip and I spent a stupid amount of Phillip and I spent a stupid amount of time and a stupid amount of time to not time and a stupid amount of time to not time and a stupid amount of time to not have a better answer researching actors have a better answer researching actors have a better answer researching actors and going back and watching clips on the and going back and watching clips on the and going back and watching clips on the I'm a Vassili and the best I came up I'm a Vassili and the best I came up I'm a Vassili and the best I came up with although he's a lot better than a with although he's a lot better than a with although he's a lot better than a lot of the other ones I came up with I lot of the other ones I came up with I lot of the other ones I came up with I thought a 38 40 42 year old Charles thought a 38 40 42 year old Charles thought a 38 40 42 year old Charles Bronson would have met my view of it Bronson would have met my view of it Bronson would have met my view of it kind of he's got that look where you kind of he's got that look where you kind of he's got that look where you could see him coming from that region could see him coming from that region could see him coming from that region he's not makedonia he's not even from he's not makedonia he's not even from he's not makedonia he's not even from the Balkans he's Lithuanian or Latvian the Balkans he's Lithuanian or Latvian the Balkans he's Lithuanian or Latvian but I think his family you know go back but I think his family you know go back but I think his family you know go back to like Tatar is from the steppe I think to like Tatar is from the steppe I think to like Tatar is from the steppe I think like Angelina Jolie if you put you know like Angelina Jolie if you put you know like Angelina Jolie if you put you know his physical features in the hands of a his physical features in the hands of a his physical features in the hands of a good makeup person you're gonna get good makeup person you're gonna get good makeup person you're gonna get somebody that looks like they could play somebody that looks like they could play somebody that looks like they could play the role in terms of the physicality of the role in terms of the physicality of the role in terms of the physicality of it and whatnot I messed around for again it and whatnot I messed around for again it and whatnot I messed around for again far too long with one of those online far too long with one of those online far too long with one of those online beard creators where you upload a photo beard creators where you upload a photo beard creators where you upload a photo of Charles Bronson in this case and then of Charles Bronson in this case and then of Charles Bronson in this case and then try to find a beard that fits him I try to find a beard that fits him I try to find a beard that fits him I couldn't find anything that even looked couldn't find anything that even looked couldn't find anything that even looked like it wasn't a joke I know one of you like it wasn't a joke I know one of you like it wasn't a joke I know one of you out there will though I know how these out there will though I know how these out there will though I know how these things go so if you do it don't get some things go so if you do it don't get some things go so if you do it don't get some barbarian looking beard don't fall for barbarian looking beard don't fall for barbarian looking beard don't fall for that demosthenes portrayal of the guy that demosthenes portrayal of the guy that demosthenes portrayal of the guy this is a wealthy up-and-coming dude who this is a wealthy up-and-coming dude who this is a wealthy up-and-coming dude who wants to tell and show the Greeks down wants to tell and show the Greeks down wants to tell and show the Greeks down south I mean part of this as a PR south I mean part of this as a PR south I mean part of this as a PR campaign that he's a full-fledged member campaign that he's a full-fledged member campaign that he's a full-fledged member of the Greek cultural Club I mean this of the Greek cultural Club I mean this of the Greek cultural Club I mean this is a guy you don't have to worry about is a guy you don't have to worry about is a guy you don't have to worry about letting him into the Country Club he

letting him into the Country Club he letting him into the Country Club he won't embarrass you look at these flashy won't embarrass you look at these flashy won't embarrass you look at these flashy suits he wears he's gonna be as turned suits he wears he's gonna be as turned suits he wears he's gonna be as turned out as he can be while still appearing out as he can be while still appearing out as he can be while still appearing to be you know Charles Bronson I also to be you know Charles Bronson I also to be you know Charles Bronson I also think this would be a fun role for think this would be a fun role for think this would be a fun role for Charles Bronson because you know there's Charles Bronson because you know there's Charles Bronson because you know there's all as we said that the and and I think all as we said that the and and I think all as we said that the and and I think this is a wonderful way of showing how this is a wonderful way of showing how this is a wonderful way of showing how weird this is because the cultural mores weird this is because the cultural mores weird this is because the cultural mores are so different are so different are so different imagine Charles Bronson in one of those imagine Charles Bronson in one of those imagine Charles Bronson in one of those scenes where he has to be with one of scenes where he has to be with one of scenes where he has to be with one of them the male lovers right even them the male lovers right even them the male lovers right even interacting with them in a way that interacting with them in a way that interacting with them in a way that implies it you don't have to see implies it you don't have to see implies it you don't have to see anything just the implication can you anything just the implication can you anything just the implication can you think of a more awkward pairing I think think of a more awkward pairing I think think of a more awkward pairing I think that's perfect because every time you that's perfect because every time you that's perfect because every time you read about these things the historians read about these things the historians read about these things the historians always caution you about applying our always caution you about applying our always caution you about applying our modern views cuz they they say the modern views cuz they they say the modern views cuz they they say the Greeks didn't think about it the way we Greeks didn't think about it the way we Greeks didn't think about it the way we do it's you know there's so much do it's you know there's so much do it's you know there's so much cultural baggage concerned with it so cultural baggage concerned with it so cultural baggage concerned with it so you have to think about it in a way you have to think about it in a way you have to think about it in a way that's totally alien watching Charles that's totally alien watching Charles that's totally alien watching Charles Bronson in some sort of gay Brokeback Bronson in some sort of gay Brokeback Bronson in some sort of gay Brokeback Mountain Mountain Mountain brokeback makedonia in mountain scene is brokeback makedonia in mountain scene is brokeback makedonia in mountain scene is about as strange and sriracha sauce on about as strange and sriracha sauce on about as strange and sriracha sauce on vanilla ice cream vanilla ice cream vanilla ice cream that I can imagine which is how the that I can imagine which is how the that I can imagine which is how the ancient world looks and feels like I ancient world looks and feels like I ancient world looks and feels like I said if you revel in that sort of stuff said if you revel in that sort of stuff said if you revel in that sort of stuff you know there you go it does depend on you know there you go it does depend on you know there you go it does depend on when you also create this Charles when you also create this Charles when you also create this Charles Bronson character because he goes from Bronson character because he goes from Bronson character because he goes from what appears to be a pretty dashing what appears to be a pretty dashing what appears to be a pretty dashing character maybe a very rough and tumble character maybe a very rough and tumble character maybe a very rough and tumble as my old history books used to say as my old history books used to say as my old history books used to say makedonia enroller to somebody who makedonia enroller to somebody who makedonia enroller to somebody who degrades like an NFL football player

degrades like an NFL football player degrades like an NFL football player does over a 20-year career he's like jim does over a 20-year career he's like jim does over a 20-year career he's like jim otto a couple years after he marries otto a couple years after he marries otto a couple years after he marries Olympia's he famously loses his eye and Olympia's he famously loses his eye and Olympia's he famously loses his eye and they're pretty sure it's been long they're pretty sure it's been long they're pretty sure it's been long debated but they're pretty sure now that debated but they're pretty sure now that debated but they're pretty sure now that they found his skull and some of the they found his skull and some of the they found his skull and some of the bones in a famous tomb and the skull has bones in a famous tomb and the skull has bones in a famous tomb and the skull has the little notch that the arrow left the little notch that the arrow left the little notch that the arrow left when it took out his eye and I think he when it took out his eye and I think he when it took out his eye and I think he suffers like five or six suffers like five or six suffers like five or six life-threatening bad awful wounds over life-threatening bad awful wounds over life-threatening bad awful wounds over his lifetime and by the end of it he's his lifetime and by the end of it he's his lifetime and by the end of it he's just you can see the physical toll the just you can see the physical toll the just you can see the physical toll the cost of this you know starting Phillip cost of this you know starting Phillip cost of this you know starting Phillip and Sons right this family business what and Sons right this family business what and Sons right this family business what it's done to him it's done to him it's done to him when Alexander is growing up Philips when Alexander is growing up Philips when Alexander is growing up Philips gone a lot he's gone when Alexander's gone a lot he's gone when Alexander's gone a lot he's gone when Alexander's born this is maybe part of the reason born this is maybe part of the reason born this is maybe part of the reason that you see the influence that that you see the influence that that you see the influence that Olympia's had on him Olympia's had on him Olympia's had on him she's the primary family member there she's the primary family member there she's the primary family member there Phillip by the way this remarkable Phillip by the way this remarkable Phillip by the way this remarkable combination and you see it from time to combination and you see it from time to combination and you see it from time to time in great figures of energy and time in great figures of energy and time in great figures of energy and genius it's a force multiplier either genius it's a force multiplier either genius it's a force multiplier either one of those things without the other one of those things without the other one of those things without the other it's great to have but but you put him it's great to have but but you put him it's great to have but but you put him together and you get guys like Philip together and you get guys like Philip together and you get guys like Philip you look at Philips schedule and his you look at Philips schedule and his you look at Philips schedule and his data points are pretty well attested data points are pretty well attested data points are pretty well attested it'll wear you out most of us anyway now it'll wear you out most of us anyway now it'll wear you out most of us anyway now Philips besieging this city and this Philips besieging this city and this Philips besieging this city and this year he's besieging that city in that year he's besieging that city in that year he's besieging that city in that year holy cow but he's never at home he year holy cow but he's never at home he year holy cow but he's never at home he does want a son that none of the does want a son that none of the does want a son that none of the cultured Greeks in the South can sneer

cultured Greeks in the South can sneer cultured Greeks in the South can sneer at the way they sneer at dad so he's at the way they sneer at dad so he's at the way they sneer at dad so he's bringing in the best educators he's bringing in the best educators he's bringing in the best educators he's giving him the best sort of cultural giving him the best sort of cultural giving him the best sort of cultural exposure you can he brings in Aristotle exposure you can he brings in Aristotle exposure you can he brings in Aristotle to be as to to be as to to be as to how's that for nouveau riche yet get me how's that for nouveau riche yet get me how's that for nouveau riche yet get me the best what's his name aristotle bring the best what's his name aristotle bring the best what's his name aristotle bring him in here and aristotle is not him in here and aristotle is not him in here and aristotle is not teaching alexander you know with a teaching alexander you know with a teaching alexander you know with a hundred other students in the symposium hundred other students in the symposium hundred other students in the symposium he's teaching alexander with a couple of he's teaching alexander with a couple of he's teaching alexander with a couple of Alexander's youthful friends that's the Alexander's youthful friends that's the Alexander's youthful friends that's the class all day long hang with Aristotle class all day long hang with Aristotle class all day long hang with Aristotle absorb everything Alexander could of absorb everything Alexander could of absorb everything Alexander could of course famously recite passages from the course famously recite passages from the course famously recite passages from the great Greek plays and dramas and all great Greek plays and dramas and all great Greek plays and dramas and all these things you have a cultured guy these things you have a cultured guy these things you have a cultured guy here it's part of how you get that whole here it's part of how you get that whole here it's part of how you get that whole view of him as a philosopher King a view of him as a philosopher King a view of him as a philosopher King a cultured man as a buddy of mine always cultured man as a buddy of mine always cultured man as a buddy of mine always likes to say a culture Jenna sidle likes to say a culture Jenna sidle likes to say a culture Jenna sidle butcher is thug butcher miss a word I'll butcher is thug butcher miss a word I'll butcher is thug butcher miss a word I'll have to call him on that the whole have to call him on that the whole have to call him on that the whole period when Alexander's growing up is period when Alexander's growing up is period when Alexander's growing up is one of those yada yada yada times you one of those yada yada yada times you one of those yada yada yada times you don't really hear a lot of details don't really hear a lot of details don't really hear a lot of details except how precocious this guy is and except how precocious this guy is and except how precocious this guy is and all the portents are showing these signs all the portents are showing these signs all the portents are showing these signs that he's going to be this amazing guy that he's going to be this amazing guy that he's going to be this amazing guy meanwhile Phillip is by hook or by crook meanwhile Phillip is by hook or by crook meanwhile Phillip is by hook or by crook taking conquering somehow acquiring taking conquering somehow acquiring taking conquering somehow acquiring great wealth as he takes over Minds he's great wealth as he takes over Minds he's great wealth as he takes over Minds he's becoming this huge player in Greek becoming this huge player in Greek becoming this huge player in Greek politics and at a certain point he politics and at a certain point he politics and at a certain point he clashes with the other major players you clashes with the other major players you clashes with the other major players you know there are certain city-states that know there are certain city-states that know there are certain city-states that are well-known Athens Sparta Thebes are well-known Athens Sparta Thebes are well-known Athens Sparta Thebes those are your big three usually and those are your big three usually and those are your big three usually and Phillip Phillip has a problem eventually Phillip Phillip has a problem eventually Phillip Phillip has a problem eventually with all of them his encounters with

with all of them his encounters with with all of them his encounters with Sparta are famous because it's one of Sparta are famous because it's one of Sparta are famous because it's one of the great lines from Sparta one of the the great lines from Sparta one of the the great lines from Sparta one of the great diplomatic notes from them back to great diplomatic notes from them back to great diplomatic notes from them back to Adam and involves Phillip because he was Adam and involves Phillip because he was Adam and involves Phillip because he was coming down near Sparta and he gives him coming down near Sparta and he gives him coming down near Sparta and he gives him one of those ultimatums that says if I one of those ultimatums that says if I one of those ultimatums that says if I have to come down there and I'm have to come down there and I'm have to come down there and I'm paraphrasing and and destroy you I will paraphrasing and and destroy you I will paraphrasing and and destroy you I will you know make you all enslave that will you know make you all enslave that will you know make you all enslave that will take all your stuff you know all that take all your stuff you know all that take all your stuff you know all that kind of thing if I have to do that and kind of thing if I have to do that and kind of thing if I have to do that and the famous Spartan answer and they were the famous Spartan answer and they were the famous Spartan answer and they were known for very short as few words as known for very short as few words as known for very short as few words as possible it's called the laconic style possible it's called the laconic style possible it's called the laconic style and the Spartan answer was just one word and the Spartan answer was just one word and the Spartan answer was just one word if that sounds really badass except the if that sounds really badass except the if that sounds really badass except the Spartans did not come out of their Spartans did not come out of their Spartans did not come out of their little Enclave to play with Phillip at little Enclave to play with Phillip at little Enclave to play with Phillip at all right what does that say right we're all right what does that say right we're all right what does that say right we're badass come and get us badass come and get us badass come and get us they stayed away and Phillip famously in they stayed away and Phillip famously in they stayed away and Phillip famously in 338 BCE destroys Greek freedom is the 338 BCE destroys Greek freedom is the 338 BCE destroys Greek freedom is the way I always learned about it way I always learned about it way I always learned about it you know you'll get different approaches you know you'll get different approaches you know you'll get different approaches hold different lenses unified Greece is hold different lenses unified Greece is hold different lenses unified Greece is a whole different way to look at it a whole different way to look at it a whole different way to look at it isn't it when he destroyed both those isn't it when he destroyed both those isn't it when he destroyed both those armies at the Battle of Chaeronea the armies at the Battle of Chaeronea the armies at the Battle of Chaeronea the combined arms of Thebes and Athens and combined arms of Thebes and Athens and combined arms of Thebes and Athens and it wasn't all that close famously it wasn't all that close famously it wasn't all that close famously leading the cavalry charge his young I leading the cavalry charge his young I leading the cavalry charge his young I think he was 17 or 18 years old his think he was 17 or 18 years old his think he was 17 or 18 years old his young son Alexander all right you get young son Alexander all right you get young son Alexander all right you get your 17 or 18 year old kid at the tip of your 17 or 18 year old kid at the tip of your 17 or 18 year old kid at the tip of the spear their dad the spear their dad the spear their dad welcome to the Homeric ethos in action welcome to the Homeric ethos in action welcome to the Homeric ethos in action right so Olympia says datapoints right so Olympia says datapoints right so Olympia says datapoints re-enter the picture here as Phillip is re-enter the picture here as Phillip is re-enter the picture here as Phillip is beginning to get to the height of his

beginning to get to the height of his beginning to get to the height of his power he's doing so many amazing things power he's doing so many amazing things power he's doing so many amazing things and is being recognized as this huge and is being recognized as this huge and is being recognized as this huge historical figure that Alexander historical figure that Alexander historical figure that Alexander supposedly says I think it's Plutarch supposedly says I think it's Plutarch supposedly says I think it's Plutarch that says it he's not gonna leave that says it he's not gonna leave that says it he's not gonna leave anything for me or the functional anything for me or the functional anything for me or the functional equivalent you gonna do everything you equivalent you gonna do everything you equivalent you gonna do everything you can do Alexander was chomping at the bit can do Alexander was chomping at the bit can do Alexander was chomping at the bit I like Elizabeth Carney the historian I like Elizabeth Carney the historian I like Elizabeth Carney the historian who points out that there's this usual who points out that there's this usual who points out that there's this usual relationship between kings and their relationship between kings and their relationship between kings and their sons that's a little strange right sons that's a little strange right sons that's a little strange right because sometimes the son is the king in because sometimes the son is the king in because sometimes the son is the king in Waiting just sort of waiting for the dad Waiting just sort of waiting for the dad Waiting just sort of waiting for the dad to die even if you like the guy the dad to die even if you like the guy the dad to die even if you like the guy the dad however may have several different sons however may have several different sons however may have several different sons that could get the kingship in a system that could get the kingship in a system that could get the kingship in a system like the makedonia --nz so that explains like the makedonia --nz so that explains like the makedonia --nz so that explains a Carney thought one explanation anyway a Carney thought one explanation anyway a Carney thought one explanation anyway why Alexander might be close to his why Alexander might be close to his why Alexander might be close to his mother she and he had the same interest mother she and he had the same interest mother she and he had the same interest in him Philip ends up you know he's got in him Philip ends up you know he's got in him Philip ends up you know he's got a son about Alexander's age right around a son about Alexander's age right around a son about Alexander's age right around named Philip aridaias as the way history named Philip aridaias as the way history named Philip aridaias as the way history describes him he's he's interesting he's describes him he's he's interesting he's describes him he's he's interesting he's described all kinds of different way he described all kinds of different way he described all kinds of different way he sounds like he's got some sort of mental sounds like he's got some sort of mental sounds like he's got some sort of mental disability disability disability it's obscure I think it's Plutarch I it's obscure I think it's Plutarch I it's obscure I think it's Plutarch I can't remember which of the ancient can't remember which of the ancient can't remember which of the ancient historians starts the rumor that it was historians starts the rumor that it was historians starts the rumor that it was Olympius who poisoned him and gave him Olympius who poisoned him and gave him Olympius who poisoned him and gave him that malady don't you love that I mean that malady don't you love that I mean that malady don't you love that I mean if you're gonna have a bad guy in the if you're gonna have a bad guy in the if you're gonna have a bad guy in the story anybody who's in Alexander's way story anybody who's in Alexander's way story anybody who's in Alexander's way who has anything wrong with them it who has anything wrong with them it who has anything wrong with them it might be the witch I mean the priestess might be the witch I mean the priestess might be the witch I mean the priestess but Alexander runs into some trouble as but Alexander runs into some trouble as but Alexander runs into some trouble as Philip is is reaching his ascent and who Philip is is reaching his ascent and who Philip is is reaching his ascent and who he's planning this crusade against he's planning this crusade against he's planning this crusade against Persia right this is going to be Philips

Persia right this is going to be Philips Persia right this is going to be Philips crowning glory he's going to go back and crowning glory he's going to go back and crowning glory he's going to go back and this is the way the propaganda sells it this is the way the propaganda sells it this is the way the propaganda sells it and and and hey the Persians back for that whole hey the Persians back for that whole hey the Persians back for that whole invasion thing that happened you know invasion thing that happened you know invasion thing that happened you know with the we are Spartans thing more than with the we are Spartans thing more than with the we are Spartans thing more than a century before you like getting mad at a century before you like getting mad at a century before you like getting mad at somebody for something that happened in somebody for something that happened in somebody for something that happened in the late 1800s and saying we're finally the late 1800s and saying we're finally the late 1800s and saying we're finally back you know you thought we forgot back you know you thought we forgot back you know you thought we forgot about that no Philip gets a bridgehead about that no Philip gets a bridgehead about that no Philip gets a bridgehead going in Asia going in Asia going in Asia he creates a League of Greek States the he creates a League of Greek States the he creates a League of Greek States the makedonia didn't rule like God Kings makedonia didn't rule like God Kings makedonia didn't rule like God Kings this was a way to do it in a very modern this was a way to do it in a very modern this was a way to do it in a very modern fashion where everybody just is in the fashion where everybody just is in the fashion where everybody just is in the Greek version of NATO or the Warsaw Pact Greek version of NATO or the Warsaw Pact Greek version of NATO or the Warsaw Pact or whatever and we're all in this or whatever and we're all in this or whatever and we're all in this together right and by the way who is the together right and by the way who is the together right and by the way who is the leader of the group you guessed it the leader of the group you guessed it the leader of the group you guessed it the boss of bosses Philip the moment where boss of bosses Philip the moment where boss of bosses Philip the moment where Olympia comes back into the story is Olympia comes back into the story is Olympia comes back into the story is when Philip takes another wife the same when Philip takes another wife the same when Philip takes another wife the same year that this crusade against Persia is year that this crusade against Persia is year that this crusade against Persia is announced Philip marries Cleopatra now announced Philip marries Cleopatra now announced Philip marries Cleopatra now the makedonia in history is really hard the makedonia in history is really hard the makedonia in history is really hard to follow because they seem to have only to follow because they seem to have only to follow because they seem to have only had like nine names or ten names for had like nine names or ten names for had like nine names or ten names for people and they just reoccur all the people and they just reoccur all the people and they just reoccur all the time so you get easily confused time so you get easily confused time so you get easily confused Cleopatra one of those names you see all Cleopatra one of those names you see all Cleopatra one of those names you see all the time it's not Egyptian it's Greek the time it's not Egyptian it's Greek the time it's not Egyptian it's Greek and makedonia and it's one of the names and makedonia and it's one of the names and makedonia and it's one of the names I mean I'll examine their sisters names I mean I'll examine their sisters names I mean I'll examine their sisters names Cleopatra this Cleopatra is the niece of Cleopatra this Cleopatra is the niece of Cleopatra this Cleopatra is the niece of a guy named Atlas Atlas is one of these a guy named Atlas Atlas is one of these a guy named Atlas Atlas is one of these important makedonia and barons one of

important makedonia and barons one of important makedonia and barons one of these people that you know are part of these people that you know are part of these people that you know are part of the family right we're marrying the family right we're marrying the family right we're marrying ourselves together even more we need ourselves together even more we need ourselves together even more we need each other each other each other Phillip means these people to the best Phillip means these people to the best Phillip means these people to the best cavalry in Greece he needs them to be on cavalry in Greece he needs them to be on cavalry in Greece he needs them to be on his side and everybody happy so they're his side and everybody happy so they're his side and everybody happy so they're gonna marry into each other's families gonna marry into each other's families gonna marry into each other's families and then there's an incident recounted and then there's an incident recounted and then there's an incident recounted this is part of the makedonia and soap this is part of the makedonia and soap this is part of the makedonia and soap opera thing where stuff just goes down opera thing where stuff just goes down opera thing where stuff just goes down at a drinking party now if you're a at a drinking party now if you're a at a drinking party now if you're a substance abuse counselor you're gonna substance abuse counselor you're gonna substance abuse counselor you're gonna notice right away that it is probably notice right away that it is probably notice right away that it is probably not smart certainly not by modern not smart certainly not by modern not smart certainly not by modern standards to get a whole bunch of these standards to get a whole bunch of these standards to get a whole bunch of these powerful and important people together powerful and important people together powerful and important people together and they're an emotional lot by the way and they're an emotional lot by the way and they're an emotional lot by the way but they're all killers in their time but they're all killers in their time but they're all killers in their time period lot of people were killers right period lot of people were killers right period lot of people were killers right I don't want to make that sound so extra I don't want to make that sound so extra I don't want to make that sound so extra bad they're not charles manse bad they're not charles manse bad they're not charles manse but these are all very experienced men but these are all very experienced men but these are all very experienced men kind of hard men and they like to drink kind of hard men and they like to drink kind of hard men and they like to drink and they don't like to drink in and they don't like to drink in and they don't like to drink in moderation one of the critiques that the moderation one of the critiques that the moderation one of the critiques that the Greeks always had about these people is Greeks always had about these people is Greeks always had about these people is that they do not drink wine mixed with that they do not drink wine mixed with that they do not drink wine mixed with water like cultured people do they drink water like cultured people do they drink water like cultured people do they drink the wine straight and they have drinking the wine straight and they have drinking the wine straight and they have drinking contests this is something that's hard contests this is something that's hard contests this is something that's hard to understand but you have to imagine to understand but you have to imagine to understand but you have to imagine very big containers full of wine and very big containers full of wine and very big containers full of wine and then men drinking at the same time and then men drinking at the same time and then men drinking at the same time and you know the guy who drinks longer wins you know the guy who drinks longer wins you know the guy who drinks longer wins but when you read the accounts of this but when you read the accounts of this but when you read the accounts of this it's crazy and by the way these guys are it's crazy and by the way these guys are it's crazy and by the way these guys are all there's weapons everywhere I mean all there's weapons everywhere I mean all there's weapons everywhere I mean it's a it's a dangerous environment for it's a it's a dangerous environment for it's a it's a dangerous environment for people to be dead drunk in I mean what

people to be dead drunk in I mean what people to be dead drunk in I mean what if you said something in this mafia like if you said something in this mafia like if you said something in this mafia like crime family that wasn't politically crime family that wasn't politically crime family that wasn't politically correct about somebody who was really correct about somebody who was really correct about somebody who was really powerful so here's the story take it or powerful so here's the story take it or powerful so here's the story take it or leave it but it's famous a lot of you leave it but it's famous a lot of you leave it but it's famous a lot of you know it already there's a drinking party know it already there's a drinking party know it already there's a drinking party where this marriage is being celebrated where this marriage is being celebrated where this marriage is being celebrated and Axl is this important makedonia in and Axl is this important makedonia in and Axl is this important makedonia in general and Baron and everything else is general and Baron and everything else is general and Baron and everything else is supposed to give a toast something about supposed to give a toast something about supposed to give a toast something about its phrase different ways you know its phrase different ways you know its phrase different ways you know hoping that this provides an air but the hoping that this provides an air but the hoping that this provides an air but the suggestions in many of the pieces of suggestions in many of the pieces of suggestions in many of the pieces of literature's hopefully provides a literature's hopefully provides a literature's hopefully provides a legitimate heir or a true heir or a true legitimate heir or a true heir or a true legitimate heir or a true heir or a true full-blood makedonia heir remember full-blood makedonia heir remember full-blood makedonia heir remember Alexander who is the heir as a mother Alexander who is the heir as a mother Alexander who is the heir as a mother who's not makedonia at all so what is who's not makedonia at all so what is who's not makedonia at all so what is Attalus saying here well in the story Attalus saying here well in the story Attalus saying here well in the story that's exactly what Alexander says loud that's exactly what Alexander says loud that's exactly what Alexander says loud and in front of the whole group of and in front of the whole group of and in front of the whole group of people people people I remember the Richard Burton portrayal I remember the Richard Burton portrayal I remember the Richard Burton portrayal you know a cup is thrown and he says are you know a cup is thrown and he says are you know a cup is thrown and he says are you calling me a bastard or I hope I'm you calling me a bastard or I hope I'm you calling me a bastard or I hope I'm remembering the Richard Burton portrayal remembering the Richard Burton portrayal remembering the Richard Burton portrayal then you have the moment where Philip then you have the moment where Philip then you have the moment where Philip supposedly drunk as a skunk supposedly drunk as a skunk supposedly drunk as a skunk and now even more broken down you know and now even more broken down you know and now even more broken down you know with a spear wound and he's lame and and with a spear wound and he's lame and and with a spear wound and he's lame and and he gets up from the table and supposedly he gets up from the table and supposedly he gets up from the table and supposedly pulls a sword almost against Alexander pulls a sword almost against Alexander pulls a sword almost against Alexander which leads Alexander to believe wait which leads Alexander to believe wait which leads Alexander to believe wait why didn't dad get up and defend me in why didn't dad get up and defend me in why didn't dad get up and defend me in front of that that scurrilous charge front of that that scurrilous charge front of that that scurrilous charge right there which leads to a break in right there which leads to a break in right there which leads to a break in the family in Alexander and his mom the family in Alexander and his mom the family in Alexander and his mom leave makedonia leave makedonia leave makedonia back to a virus and things are chilly Philip does not need this kind of

Philip does not need this kind of problem right away I mean this is his problem right away I mean this is his problem right away I mean this is his really dramatic wife and once again really dramatic wife and once again really dramatic wife and once again there's problems she's got the air I got there's problems she's got the air I got there's problems she's got the air I got problems with a Dallas now I should problems with a Dallas now I should problems with a Dallas now I should point out that there's been lots of point out that there's been lots of point out that there's been lots of speculation and opinions and views of speculation and opinions and views of speculation and opinions and views of what's going on here this would have what's going on here this would have what's going on here this would have been something that would have been hard been something that would have been hard been something that would have been hard to figure out at the time with the to figure out at the time with the to figure out at the time with the sources that we have that we're working sources that we have that we're working sources that we have that we're working with you know it's open for argument I'm with you know it's open for argument I'm with you know it's open for argument I'm not going to try to parse it except to not going to try to parse it except to not going to try to parse it except to point out that some of the obvious point out that some of the obvious point out that some of the obvious points that have been made about this points that have been made about this points that have been made about this when you marry a queen to solidify a when you marry a queen to solidify a when you marry a queen to solidify a diplomatic agreement and that Queen goes diplomatic agreement and that Queen goes diplomatic agreement and that Queen goes back home to her family maybe with you back home to her family maybe with you back home to her family maybe with you know tales of insults to their lineage I know tales of insults to their lineage I know tales of insults to their lineage I mean this is again the same sort of mean this is again the same sort of mean this is again the same sort of thing that will get you whacked in the thing that will get you whacked in the thing that will get you whacked in the Mafia crime family if you're Mafia crime family if you're Mafia crime family if you're disrespected and she goes back to her disrespected and she goes back to her disrespected and she goes back to her brother maybe the former lover of brother maybe the former lover of brother maybe the former lover of Phillip at one time and basically you Phillip at one time and basically you Phillip at one time and basically you know she looks like a queen that's been know she looks like a queen that's been know she looks like a queen that's been maltreated what does that do to the maltreated what does that do to the maltreated what does that do to the diplomatic agreement Phillip is in a diplomatic agreement Phillip is in a diplomatic agreement Phillip is in a position now where he's kind of uniting position now where he's kind of uniting position now where he's kind of uniting all the different families that he's put all the different families that he's put all the different families that he's put together so that they can go off and get together so that they can go off and get together so that they can go off and get this big score that this easy pickins this big score that this easy pickins this big score that this easy pickins that persia looks like at this point it that persia looks like at this point it that persia looks like at this point it looks like it's just there who's gonna looks like it's just there who's gonna looks like it's just there who's gonna be the first guy to walk in they've left be the first guy to walk in they've left be the first guy to walk in they've left the door open the alarm doesn't work the the door open the alarm doesn't work the the door open the alarm doesn't work the security guards old and senile it's just security guards old and senile it's just security guards old and senile it's just they're come on all we gotta do is unite they're come on all we gotta do is unite they're come on all we gotta do is unite and go take that right we'll all be you and go take that right we'll all be you and go take that right we'll all be you know kings of the world basically he's know kings of the world basically he's know kings of the world basically he's just got to keep this fractious

just got to keep this fractious just got to keep this fractious coalition of Greek states that were only coalition of Greek states that were only coalition of Greek states that were only you know cooperating because he beat you know cooperating because he beat you know cooperating because he beat them makedonia and barons that are them makedonia and barons that are them makedonia and barons that are always kind of unreliable and and always kind of unreliable and and always kind of unreliable and and jockeying for you know closer family jockeying for you know closer family jockeying for you know closer family ties guys like a delish you could easily ties guys like a delish you could easily ties guys like a delish you could easily see us as an underboss or a boss from a see us as an underboss or a boss from a see us as an underboss or a boss from a different family that's working with different family that's working with different family that's working with Phillip now but he's got to be kept Phillip now but he's got to be kept Phillip now but he's got to be kept happy one of the ways he's kept happy as happy one of the ways he's kept happy as happy one of the ways he's kept happy as you marry my niece right but marrying my you marry my niece right but marrying my you marry my niece right but marrying my niece causes problems with one of your niece causes problems with one of your niece causes problems with one of your wives the mother of the heir see it's a wives the mother of the heir see it's a wives the mother of the heir see it's a soap opera but it's murderous because a soap opera but it's murderous because a soap opera but it's murderous because a lot of people are going to die because lot of people are going to die because lot of people are going to die because of this dynamic at this time Olympius of this dynamic at this time Olympius of this dynamic at this time Olympius and alexander for a short and alexander for a short and alexander for a short I'm worried it might be them but Philip I'm worried it might be them but Philip I'm worried it might be them but Philip is far too smart for this you don't get is far too smart for this you don't get is far too smart for this you don't get to where he is without realizing that to where he is without realizing that to where he is without realizing that this can't work so in what Elizabeth this can't work so in what Elizabeth this can't work so in what Elizabeth Kearney historian Elizabeth Kearney says Kearney historian Elizabeth Kearney says Kearney historian Elizabeth Kearney says is almost certainly a sort of a mending is almost certainly a sort of a mending is almost certainly a sort of a mending fences sort of affair he arranges fences sort of affair he arranges fences sort of affair he arranges another wedding I mean what do you do another wedding I mean what do you do another wedding I mean what do you do right this is the standard approach this right this is the standard approach this right this is the standard approach this wedding is going to strike us all as wedding is going to strike us all as wedding is going to strike us all as very incestuous what he's gonna do is very incestuous what he's gonna do is very incestuous what he's gonna do is he's gonna marry his daughter who is he's gonna marry his daughter who is he's gonna marry his daughter who is also Olympia's his daughter so he's got also Olympia's his daughter so he's got also Olympia's his daughter so he's got a lot of wives but this one is a lot of wives but this one is a lot of wives but this one is Alexander's full sister Cleopatra he's Alexander's full sister Cleopatra he's Alexander's full sister Cleopatra he's gonna marry Cleopatra to Olympia PSA's gonna marry Cleopatra to Olympia PSA's gonna marry Cleopatra to Olympia PSA's brother brother brother her uncle former lover probably of her her uncle former lover probably of her her uncle former lover probably of her father and going to just double down on father and going to just double down on father and going to just double down on the family relationship there if this is the family relationship there if this is the family relationship there if this is for diplomatic purposes you could almost for diplomatic purposes you could almost for diplomatic purposes you could almost see Philip not wanting to do any of this

see Philip not wanting to do any of this see Philip not wanting to do any of this but he's got to keep that important area but he's got to keep that important area but he's got to keep that important area pacified and with him so he can conduct pacified and with him so he can conduct pacified and with him so he can conduct this long-awaited thing in Persia he's this long-awaited thing in Persia he's this long-awaited thing in Persia he's already got an advance party of his already got an advance party of his already got an advance party of his generals who've conquered a little generals who've conquered a little generals who've conquered a little bridgehead over there so I mean they're bridgehead over there so I mean they're bridgehead over there so I mean they're ready to go ready to go ready to go so as part of the ceremonies for this so as part of the ceremonies for this so as part of the ceremonies for this wedding where Cleopatra's gonna marry wedding where Cleopatra's gonna marry wedding where Cleopatra's gonna marry her uncle Philip throws a big bash this her uncle Philip throws a big bash this her uncle Philip throws a big bash this is his coming out party this is 25 years is his coming out party this is 25 years is his coming out party this is 25 years or something of work on his part to or something of work on his part to or something of work on his part to create this moment he's going to bask in create this moment he's going to bask in create this moment he's going to bask in it he invites all the big dignitaries it he invites all the big dignitaries it he invites all the big dignitaries all the top people the ambassador's the all the top people the ambassador's the all the top people the ambassador's the performers everything today we would performers everything today we would performers everything today we would call it a star-studded affair right the call it a star-studded affair right the call it a star-studded affair right the media would all be there he has a bunch media would all be there he has a bunch media would all be there he has a bunch of gold statues made for all the gods of gold statues made for all the gods of gold statues made for all the gods and then one other one that just happens and then one other one that just happens and then one other one that just happens to be him think of the significance of to be him think of the significance of to be him think of the significance of that so this is this multi-day affair that so this is this multi-day affair that so this is this multi-day affair supposedly for a wedding ceremony but in supposedly for a wedding ceremony but in supposedly for a wedding ceremony but in reality a hugely political event and of reality a hugely political event and of reality a hugely political event and of course this is going to be a highly course this is going to be a highly course this is going to be a highly choreographed affair isn't it it's going choreographed affair isn't it it's going choreographed affair isn't it it's going to be staged and everything is going to to be staged and everything is going to to be staged and everything is going to be done for a reason it's supposed to be done for a reason it's supposed to be done for a reason it's supposed to convey something maybe the same thing convey something maybe the same thing convey something maybe the same thing that having 12 statues of gods and a that having 12 statues of gods and a that having 12 statues of gods and a 13th 13th 13th the you know main guy actually the the you know main guy actually the the you know main guy actually the father of the bride that maybe father of the bride that maybe father of the bride that maybe symbolizes something to maybe 13 is an symbolizes something to maybe 13 is an symbolizes something to maybe 13 is an unlucky number too unlucky number too unlucky number too the way this thing is staged is Phillip

the way this thing is staged is Phillip the way this thing is staged is Phillip is going to come out in front of a crowd is going to come out in front of a crowd is going to come out in front of a crowd in the amphitheater and he's going to in the amphitheater and he's going to in the amphitheater and he's going to have Alexander his son you know someday have Alexander his son you know someday have Alexander his son you know someday to be the great with him that's a symbol to be the great with him that's a symbol to be the great with him that's a symbol right and basically embracing my son right and basically embracing my son right and basically embracing my son here in front of the crowd he must have here in front of the crowd he must have here in front of the crowd he must have gone to him and said something like hey gone to him and said something like hey gone to him and said something like hey we were chugalug in wine until one we were chugalug in wine until one we were chugalug in wine until one person in the contest passed out you person in the contest passed out you person in the contest passed out you can't hold me to account for something I can't hold me to account for something I can't hold me to account for something I didn't notice it you know uh bygones are didn't notice it you know uh bygones are didn't notice it you know uh bygones are bygones who knows but Alexander's there bygones who knows but Alexander's there bygones who knows but Alexander's there with him the other Alexander right with him the other Alexander right with him the other Alexander right Philips brother-in-law the one that he Philips brother-in-law the one that he Philips brother-in-law the one that he may have had an affair with the one may have had an affair with the one may have had an affair with the one that's marrying his daughter he's there that's marrying his daughter he's there that's marrying his daughter he's there too and then Philips got bodyguards too and then Philips got bodyguards too and then Philips got bodyguards right because this is the boss of bosses right because this is the boss of bosses right because this is the boss of bosses there's always somebody who wants to get there's always somebody who wants to get there's always somebody who wants to get him demosthenes in athens years before him demosthenes in athens years before him demosthenes in athens years before basically said this is a hunted man but basically said this is a hunted man but basically said this is a hunted man but he's got seven famous bodyguards and he's got seven famous bodyguards and he's got seven famous bodyguards and maybe another guy but he tells them to maybe another guy but he tells them to maybe another guy but he tells them to stand off famously because he's trying stand off famously because he's trying stand off famously because he's trying to show these people in the audience to show these people in the audience to show these people in the audience these dignitaries these dignitaries these dignitaries I'm not some guy that needs to be afraid I'm not some guy that needs to be afraid I'm not some guy that needs to be afraid of enemies I don't have enemies right of enemies I don't have enemies right of enemies I don't have enemies right I'm people love me I'm a uniter not a I'm people love me I'm a uniter not a I'm people love me I'm a uniter not a divider I mean it's an important piece divider I mean it's an important piece divider I mean it's an important piece of symbolism to show that I don't need of symbolism to show that I don't need of symbolism to show that I don't need to have bodyguards I'm not in danger he to have bodyguards I'm not in danger he to have bodyguards I'm not in danger he is however falling apart physically it is however falling apart physically it is however falling apart physically it means took taking a spear through the means took taking a spear through the means took taking a spear through the knees so he's limping out there he's knees so he's limping out there he's knees so he's limping out there he's missing the eye he's gotta but he's missing the eye he's gotta but he's missing the eye he's gotta but he's showing all of his 46 years and showing all of his 46 years and showing all of his 46 years and according to the ancient sources he gets according to the ancient sources he gets according to the ancient sources he gets to the center of this theater and once

to the center of this theater and once to the center of this theater and once again you have to think that this is the again you have to think that this is the again you have to think that this is the man's the highlight of this guy's life man's the highlight of this guy's life man's the highlight of this guy's life so far with great things on the horizon so far with great things on the horizon so far with great things on the horizon Olympius is thought to be in the Olympius is thought to be in the Olympius is thought to be in the audience by the way there is some audience by the way there is some audience by the way there is some disagreement in there sometimes but I disagreement in there sometimes but I disagreement in there sometimes but I mean Peter Green I think Elizabeth mean Peter Green I think Elizabeth mean Peter Green I think Elizabeth Carney - I think they think she was Carney - I think they think she was Carney - I think they think she was there but you know this is her brother there but you know this is her brother there but you know this is her brother marrying her daughter you'd think it's a marrying her daughter you'd think it's a marrying her daughter you'd think it's a family affair I would think she'd be family affair I would think she'd be family affair I would think she'd be there and that's part of the there and that's part of the there and that's part of the reconciliation right there all's good reconciliation right there all's good reconciliation right there all's good with the royal family don't worry and if with the royal family don't worry and if with the royal family don't worry and if she is she gets to watch she is she gets to watch she is she gets to watch a man run out to the center of the a man run out to the center of the a man run out to the center of the theater and plunge a dagger into the theater and plunge a dagger into the theater and plunge a dagger into the ribs of philip ii in front of everybody ribs of philip ii in front of everybody ribs of philip ii in front of everybody all these people he invited to his all these people he invited to his all these people he invited to his assassination unwittingly and history assassination unwittingly and history assassination unwittingly and history turns on a dime here because most of turns on a dime here because most of turns on a dime here because most of history's we know it's an accumulation history's we know it's an accumulation history's we know it's an accumulation of a ton of trends and chaotic thing is of a ton of trends and chaotic thing is of a ton of trends and chaotic thing is all pinging off each other you know and all pinging off each other you know and all pinging off each other you know and and even when things seem to go quickly and even when things seem to go quickly and even when things seem to go quickly sometimes if you examine it you go well sometimes if you examine it you go well sometimes if you examine it you go well you can see that the roots of this go you can see that the roots of this go you can see that the roots of this go very deep and the seeds were planted a very deep and the seeds were planted a very deep and the seeds were planted a long time ago for this event but long time ago for this event but long time ago for this event but sometimes earthquakes happen in history sometimes earthquakes happen in history sometimes earthquakes happen in history and stuff that Lee Harvey Oswald shoots and stuff that Lee Harvey Oswald shoots and stuff that Lee Harvey Oswald shoots John F Kennedy if that's what happened John F Kennedy if that's what happened John F Kennedy if that's what happened boom what is that that's a historical boom what is that that's a historical boom what is that that's a historical earthquake and everything's different earthquake and everything's different earthquake and everything's different afterwards and how scary that one guy afterwards and how scary that one guy afterwards and how scary that one guy may be all by his little lonesome self may be all by his little lonesome self may be all by his little lonesome self changes the world so dramatically and changes the world so dramatically and changes the world so dramatically and what if he wasn't acting alone

what if he wasn't acting alone what if he wasn't acting alone all those things apply to what happens all those things apply to what happens all those things apply to what happens to fill up it is the great John F to fill up it is the great John F to fill up it is the great John F Kennedy assassination of this time Kennedy assassination of this time Kennedy assassination of this time period in this in this area the greatest period in this in this area the greatest period in this in this area the greatest man in the world was just killed by man in the world was just killed by man in the world was just killed by somebody in front of everybody right somebody in front of everybody right somebody in front of everybody right before he's about to embark on this before he's about to embark on this before he's about to embark on this historic mission he's basically declared historic mission he's basically declared historic mission he's basically declared war almost against the Persian Empire war almost against the Persian Empire war almost against the Persian Empire and then this happens well if you think and then this happens well if you think and then this happens well if you think about it that doesn't sound too about it that doesn't sound too about it that doesn't sound too coincidental though does it coincidental though does it coincidental though does it first of all let's go to the sources first of all let's go to the sources first of all let's go to the sources because the reason that Philip ends up because the reason that Philip ends up because the reason that Philip ends up in this situation is part of the in this situation is part of the in this situation is part of the makedonia and soap opera member we makedonia and soap opera member we makedonia and soap opera member we talked about love octagons what does it talked about love octagons what does it talked about love octagons what does it love octagon look like shall we go to love octagon look like shall we go to love octagon look like shall we go to diadora siculus the ancient writer all diadora siculus the ancient writer all diadora siculus the ancient writer all these people writing a long time after these people writing a long time after these people writing a long time after these events we presume using some these events we presume using some these events we presume using some sources that have now you know been lost sources that have now you know been lost sources that have now you know been lost to us but who the hell knows so we'll to us but who the hell knows so we'll to us but who the hell knows so we'll pick up the odorous his account when he pick up the odorous his account when he pick up the odorous his account when he talks about philip coming into the talks about philip coming into the talks about philip coming into the theater right he's he's got this this theater right he's he's got this this theater right he's he's got this this this conquering moment in his life with this conquering moment in his life with this conquering moment in his life with greater things even to come quote once greater things even to come quote once greater things even to come quote once the theater had been filled Philip the theater had been filled Philip the theater had been filled Philip himself entered himself entered himself entered wearing a white cloak he ordered his wearing a white cloak he ordered his wearing a white cloak he ordered his bodyguards to follow removed at some bodyguards to follow removed at some bodyguards to follow removed at some distance from him as an indication to distance from him as an indication to distance from him as an indication to everyone that he had no need of the everyone that he had no need of the everyone that he had no need of the protection of guards such was the degree protection of guards such was the degree protection of guards such was the degree of preeminence that he had attained but of preeminence that he had attained but of preeminence that he had attained but amid the in come--as of everyone as they amid the in come--as of everyone as they amid the in come--as of everyone as they were congratulating him an unbelievable

were congratulating him an unbelievable were congratulating him an unbelievable and totally unexpected plot against the and totally unexpected plot against the and totally unexpected plot against the king came to light that was to bring king came to light that was to bring king came to light that was to bring about his death and quote congratulating about his death and quote congratulating about his death and quote congratulating maybe I mean we may be talking about maybe I mean we may be talking about maybe I mean we may be talking about applause there like a theater of people applause there like a theater of people applause there like a theater of people applauding him and lauding him you know applauding him and lauding him you know applauding him and lauding him you know as he garlands being thrown his way I as he garlands being thrown his way I as he garlands being thrown his way I mean I guess if this has to happen to mean I guess if this has to happen to mean I guess if this has to happen to you maybe this is the time I don't know you maybe this is the time I don't know you maybe this is the time I don't know what you would choose if you could what you would choose if you could what you would choose if you could choose but then the odorous diverts from choose but then the odorous diverts from choose but then the odorous diverts from what's about to happen to go into the what's about to happen to go into the what's about to happen to go into the roots of what's about to happen and it roots of what's about to happen and it roots of what's about to happen and it involves two people named Paul say involves two people named Paul say involves two people named Paul say Gnaeus again we get confused here right Gnaeus again we get confused here right Gnaeus again we get confused here right not only do these makedonia pnes have a not only do these makedonia pnes have a not only do these makedonia pnes have a limited number of names they keep limited number of names they keep limited number of names they keep changing them sometimes in their changing them sometimes in their changing them sometimes in their lifetime both of these figures are named lifetime both of these figures are named lifetime both of these figures are named pulse Aeneas this is what Diadora says pulse Aeneas this is what Diadora says pulse Aeneas this is what Diadora says and now think soap opera and now think and now think soap opera and now think and now think soap opera and now think murderous soap opera quote in order that murderous soap opera quote in order that murderous soap opera quote in order that our account of this matter may be clear our account of this matter may be clear our account of this matter may be clear we shall first explain the causes of the we shall first explain the causes of the we shall first explain the causes of the plot he says quote there was a makedonia plot he says quote there was a makedonia plot he says quote there was a makedonia named Paz Aeneas who were originated in named Paz Aeneas who were originated in named Paz Aeneas who were originated in the canton known as arrest Asst he was a the canton known as arrest Asst he was a the canton known as arrest Asst he was a bodyguard of the king and loved by bodyguard of the king and loved by bodyguard of the king and loved by philip for his good looks on observing philip for his good looks on observing philip for his good looks on observing that another man of the same name as that another man of the same name as that another man of the same name as himself was becoming the object of the himself was becoming the object of the himself was becoming the object of the Kings affections he abused the second Kings affections he abused the second Kings affections he abused the second pass Aeneas by calling him an effeminate pass Aeneas by calling him an effeminate pass Aeneas by calling him an effeminate who was willing to submit to the erotic who was willing to submit to the erotic who was willing to submit to the erotic advances of anyone who desired to advances of anyone who desired to advances of anyone who desired to initiate them initiate them initiate them end quote a Richard Gabriel says it's end quote a Richard Gabriel says it's end quote a Richard Gabriel says it's the equivalent of calling someone a male

the equivalent of calling someone a male the equivalent of calling someone a male prostitute sounds like he's saying use a prostitute sounds like he's saying use a prostitute sounds like he's saying use a male [ __ ] what would the reaction be to male [ __ ] what would the reaction be to male [ __ ] what would the reaction be to that especially from another guy who was that especially from another guy who was that especially from another guy who was probably sleeping with Philip well probably sleeping with Philip well probably sleeping with Philip well according to the odorous this second according to the odorous this second according to the odorous this second post Aeneas unable to tolerate the post Aeneas unable to tolerate the post Aeneas unable to tolerate the insult he said for a time kept his mouth insult he said for a time kept his mouth insult he said for a time kept his mouth shut shut shut and then the odorous goes to describe and then the odorous goes to describe and then the odorous goes to describe how he throws himself heroically and how he throws himself heroically and how he throws himself heroically and recklessly in front of the King to recklessly in front of the King to recklessly in front of the King to tectum you know as a bodyguard but tectum you know as a bodyguard but tectum you know as a bodyguard but essentially committing suicide by heroic essentially committing suicide by heroic essentially committing suicide by heroic act and it made appleís mad a delicious act and it made appleís mad a delicious act and it made appleís mad a delicious may remember the bride's uncle in this may remember the bride's uncle in this may remember the bride's uncle in this whole wedding ceremony whole wedding ceremony whole wedding ceremony apparently Attalus got mad that this apparently Attalus got mad that this apparently Attalus got mad that this palace aeneas guy the good one who threw palace aeneas guy the good one who threw palace aeneas guy the good one who threw his life away had to throw his life away his life away had to throw his life away his life away had to throw his life away so he decided to punish the initial post so he decided to punish the initial post so he decided to punish the initial post aeneas guy and the story of how he does aeneas guy and the story of how he does aeneas guy and the story of how he does that is positively triggering for some that is positively triggering for some that is positively triggering for some people so I apologize if this is people so I apologize if this is people so I apologize if this is hardcore because it is welcome to the hardcore because it is welcome to the hardcore because it is welcome to the ancient world dia Doris writes quote ancient world dia Doris writes quote ancient world dia Doris writes quote when this incident became widely known when this incident became widely known when this incident became widely known Attalus who was a courtier and exercised Attalus who was a courtier and exercised Attalus who was a courtier and exercised a good deal of influence with the king a good deal of influence with the king a good deal of influence with the king invited puss Aeneas to dinner and invited puss Aeneas to dinner and invited puss Aeneas to dinner and filling with vast quantities of unmixed filling with vast quantities of unmixed filling with vast quantities of unmixed wine handed his body over to his wine handed his body over to his wine handed his body over to his stableman to abuse sexually in a drunken stableman to abuse sexually in a drunken stableman to abuse sexually in a drunken rape on sobering up from his rape on sobering up from his rape on sobering up from his intoxication he passe Gnaeus was intoxication he passe Gnaeus was intoxication he passe Gnaeus was extremely bitter about the physical extremely bitter about the physical extremely bitter about the physical abuse he had suffered an accused abuse he had suffered an accused abuse he had suffered an accused Attalus before the king philip though

Attalus before the king philip though Attalus before the king philip though incensed at the enormity of a delicious incensed at the enormity of a delicious incensed at the enormity of a delicious transgression was nevertheless unwilling transgression was nevertheless unwilling transgression was nevertheless unwilling to show his abhorrence because of his to show his abhorrence because of his to show his abhorrence because of his kinship with him and his present need of kinship with him and his present need of kinship with him and his present need of his services end quote so in order to his services end quote so in order to his services end quote so in order to punish this guy for for his actions punish this guy for for his actions punish this guy for for his actions against the other Posse Gnaeus a Dallas against the other Posse Gnaeus a Dallas against the other Posse Gnaeus a Dallas has the guy basically date rapes him has the guy basically date rapes him has the guy basically date rapes him right he gets him drunk on wine throws right he gets him drunk on wine throws right he gets him drunk on wine throws into the stablemates and it's a male into the stablemates and it's a male into the stablemates and it's a male gang rape and puss Aeneas is upset about gang rape and puss Aeneas is upset about gang rape and puss Aeneas is upset about that as you might imagine someone would that as you might imagine someone would that as you might imagine someone would be he goes to perhaps his former lover be he goes to perhaps his former lover be he goes to perhaps his former lover Philip the King and says adalah stood Philip the King and says adalah stood Philip the King and says adalah stood this to me do something about it and he this to me do something about it and he this to me do something about it and he can't he's just married himself to at can't he's just married himself to at can't he's just married himself to at Alyssa's nice to try to you know make Alyssa's nice to try to you know make Alyssa's nice to try to you know make the relationship more stable a duelist the relationship more stable a duelist the relationship more stable a duelist is one of the generals whose commanding is one of the generals whose commanding is one of the generals whose commanding the bridgehead in Asia the bridgehead in Asia the bridgehead in Asia he can't upset atlas so he gives this he can't upset atlas so he gives this he can't upset atlas so he gives this post Aeneas guy a lot of other things to post Aeneas guy a lot of other things to post Aeneas guy a lot of other things to compensate him right here's some stuff compensate him right here's some stuff compensate him right here's some stuff here I'll promote you into the bodyguard here I'll promote you into the bodyguard here I'll promote you into the bodyguard all these things just don't be mad but all these things just don't be mad but all these things just don't be mad but he's mad if you believe the sources he's mad if you believe the sources he's mad if you believe the sources anyway instead of anyway instead of anyway instead of just wanting to get even against the just wanting to get even against the just wanting to get even against the person who set up his gang why he wants person who set up his gang why he wants person who set up his gang why he wants to get even with the guy who didn't do to get even with the guy who didn't do to get even with the guy who didn't do anything about it when he complained he anything about it when he complained he anything about it when he complained he went to the Godfather and the Godfather went to the Godfather and the Godfather went to the Godfather and the Godfather didn't help so he whacks Phillip a knife didn't help so he whacks Phillip a knife didn't help so he whacks Phillip a knife to the ribs after stabbing Phillip passe to the ribs after stabbing Phillip passe to the ribs after stabbing Phillip passe Gnaeus runs out of the theater he is Gnaeus runs out of the theater he is Gnaeus runs out of the theater he is pursued by several of Philips bodyguards pursued by several of Philips bodyguards pursued by several of Philips bodyguards some run to Phillip he's almost

some run to Phillip he's almost some run to Phillip he's almost certainly already dead by the time they certainly already dead by the time they certainly already dead by the time they get there this seems to have been I mean get there this seems to have been I mean get there this seems to have been I mean these these guys were warriors I mean these these guys were warriors I mean these these guys were warriors I mean this is a professional hit he would have this is a professional hit he would have this is a professional hit he would have known just where to stab somebody known just where to stab somebody known just where to stab somebody Philips probably dead by the time the Philips probably dead by the time the Philips probably dead by the time the bodyguards get to him the other body got bodyguards get to him the other body got bodyguards get to him the other body got to take off after pasta Gnaeus and he to take off after pasta Gnaeus and he to take off after pasta Gnaeus and he would have gotten away dia Doris says he would have gotten away dia Doris says he would have gotten away dia Doris says he has horses waiting for him right right has horses waiting for him right right has horses waiting for him right right the ready the getaway car so to speak in the ready the getaway car so to speak in the ready the getaway car so to speak in ancient terms but he trips on a vine ancient terms but he trips on a vine ancient terms but he trips on a vine with his sandals and go sprawling in the with his sandals and go sprawling in the with his sandals and go sprawling in the dust and the bodyguards catch up to him dust and the bodyguards catch up to him dust and the bodyguards catch up to him and spear him right there and kill him and spear him right there and kill him and spear him right there and kill him it's a little Jack Ruby ish though isn't it's a little Jack Ruby ish though isn't it's a little Jack Ruby ish though isn't it it it and people have been wondering ever and people have been wondering ever and people have been wondering ever since that moment was passe Gnaeus since that moment was passe Gnaeus since that moment was passe Gnaeus acting alone and I was going through a acting alone and I was going through a acting alone and I was going through a bunch of the different theories and the bunch of the different theories and the bunch of the different theories and the number one theory just like the JFK number one theory just like the JFK number one theory just like the JFK assassination is passe Gnaeus might have assassination is passe Gnaeus might have assassination is passe Gnaeus might have been acting exactly the way these been acting exactly the way these been acting exactly the way these ancient writers said jilted male lover ancient writers said jilted male lover ancient writers said jilted male lover The Godfather didn't I mean the whole The Godfather didn't I mean the whole The Godfather didn't I mean the whole thing we just described that can be thing we just described that can be thing we just described that can be absolutely true there's a lot of other absolutely true there's a lot of other absolutely true there's a lot of other things involved that too a lot of people things involved that too a lot of people things involved that too a lot of people wanted Phillip dead demosthenes said wanted Phillip dead demosthenes said wanted Phillip dead demosthenes said that a long time earlier he was giving that a long time earlier he was giving that a long time earlier he was giving his speeches warning about Philip II his speeches warning about Philip II his speeches warning about Philip II basically said he has a lot of enemies basically said he has a lot of enemies basically said he has a lot of enemies he won't be around forever lasted longer he won't be around forever lasted longer he won't be around forever lasted longer than some might have thought actually than some might have thought actually than some might have thought actually the ancient writers of course having a the ancient writers of course having a the ancient writers of course having a woman to potentially link to it often do woman to potentially link to it often do woman to potentially link to it often do and the rumor was that Olympius was seen and the rumor was that Olympius was seen and the rumor was that Olympius was seen at the grave of the assassin putting at the grave of the assassin putting at the grave of the assassin putting garlands on it or something like that garlands on it or something like that garlands on it or something like that decorating or honoring the grave of Paul

decorating or honoring the grave of Paul decorating or honoring the grave of Paul simius later she's tied to it the idea simius later she's tied to it the idea simius later she's tied to it the idea being that you know her status in the being that you know her status in the being that you know her status in the court had been very precarious this was court had been very precarious this was court had been very precarious this was supposed to be a sort of a makeup affair supposed to be a sort of a makeup affair supposed to be a sort of a makeup affair but Philip also might have insulted her but Philip also might have insulted her but Philip also might have insulted her family this family descended from family this family descended from family this family descended from Achilles that was very proud in this Achilles that was very proud in this Achilles that was very proud in this ethical world where that was a very big ethical world where that was a very big ethical world where that was a very big deal you can get whacked for that right deal you can get whacked for that right deal you can get whacked for that right I mean we talked about how precarious I mean we talked about how precarious I mean we talked about how precarious being a makedonia new ruler was anyway being a makedonia new ruler was anyway being a makedonia new ruler was anyway was one of the things that had kept the was one of the things that had kept the was one of the things that had kept the kingdom down for so long you couldn't kingdom down for so long you couldn't kingdom down for so long you couldn't keep a good King around the second they keep a good King around the second they keep a good King around the second they became too powerful somebody wanted to became too powerful somebody wanted to became too powerful somebody wanted to take him down a peg right the last thing take him down a peg right the last thing take him down a peg right the last thing you want is a perpetual boss of bosses you want is a perpetual boss of bosses you want is a perpetual boss of bosses if you think some day you might be the if you think some day you might be the if you think some day you might be the boss of bosses and that's not a pipe boss of bosses and that's not a pipe boss of bosses and that's not a pipe dream if you're the mother of the heir dream if you're the mother of the heir dream if you're the mother of the heir because very quickly after Phillip is because very quickly after Phillip is because very quickly after Phillip is stabbed Alexander is acclaimed the king stabbed Alexander is acclaimed the king stabbed Alexander is acclaimed the king and the makedonia --nz do a thing where and the makedonia --nz do a thing where and the makedonia --nz do a thing where they kind of have the the people acclaim they kind of have the the people acclaim they kind of have the the people acclaim the king and there's a lot of argument the king and there's a lot of argument the king and there's a lot of argument whether that's real or whether it's a whether that's real or whether it's a whether that's real or whether it's a bunch of nobles who get out and say get bunch of nobles who get out and say get bunch of nobles who get out and say get out there and raise your hands and say out there and raise your hands and say out there and raise your hands and say you know hail the new king who the hell you know hail the new king who the hell you know hail the new king who the hell knows knows knows but it goes back to that Homeric ethos - but it goes back to that Homeric ethos - but it goes back to that Homeric ethos - it's not a god King it's it's sort of an it's not a god King it's it's sort of an it's not a god King it's it's sort of an acclaimed King and so if you had acclaimed King and so if you had acclaimed King and so if you had something to do with the assassination something to do with the assassination something to do with the assassination and your Olympius you just solved all and your Olympius you just solved all and your Olympius you just solved all your problems she made out like a bandit your problems she made out like a bandit your problems she made out like a bandit a lot of the people I've read lately are a lot of the people I've read lately are a lot of the people I've read lately are in and this change is a her of the in and this change is a her of the in and this change is a her of the opinion that Olympia's probably didn't opinion that Olympia's probably didn't opinion that Olympia's probably didn't have anything to do with what happened have anything to do with what happened have anything to do with what happened to Phillip and that neither did to Phillip and that neither did to Phillip and that neither did Alexander if only because they had no Alexander if only because they had no Alexander if only because they had no need to kill him in public in front of a

need to kill him in public in front of a need to kill him in public in front of a lot of people they had access to him in lot of people they had access to him in lot of people they had access to him in private private private all right this could have been done all right this could have been done all right this could have been done nicely quietly a little poison in the nicely quietly a little poison in the nicely quietly a little poison in the right place and who would have known right place and who would have known right place and who would have known this guy is murdered in front of a giant this guy is murdered in front of a giant this guy is murdered in front of a giant crowd of admirers in public I mean today crowd of admirers in public I mean today crowd of admirers in public I mean today would be the equivalent of having it would be the equivalent of having it would be the equivalent of having it happen on live television and the star happen on live television and the star happen on live television and the star of the show is the one who's killed the of the show is the one who's killed the of the show is the one who's killed the greatest man in the history of this greatest man in the history of this greatest man in the history of this region right just when they're region right just when they're region right just when they're celebrating it some of the other people celebrating it some of the other people celebrating it some of the other people who are implicated though make a lot of who are implicated though make a lot of who are implicated though make a lot of sense the Athenians could have hired an sense the Athenians could have hired an sense the Athenians could have hired an assassin they would have loved to have assassin they would have loved to have assassin they would have loved to have seen Phillip out of the way but maybe seen Phillip out of the way but maybe seen Phillip out of the way but maybe most likely on this assassination you most likely on this assassination you most likely on this assassination you know hit list who paid for the the know hit list who paid for the the know hit list who paid for the the killing you know who hired murder killing you know who hired murder killing you know who hired murder incorporated incorporated incorporated the Persians I'm a fan of the Persians the Persians I'm a fan of the Persians the Persians I'm a fan of the Persians as many of you know and one of the as many of you know and one of the as many of you know and one of the wonderful things about them is they had wonderful things about them is they had wonderful things about them is they had a government that just did not function a government that just did not function a government that just did not function well and they figured out ways around it well and they figured out ways around it well and they figured out ways around it I'm the number one I'm the number one I'm the number one around it was money they had a lot of around it was money they had a lot of around it was money they had a lot of money and they figured out ways to have money and they figured out ways to have money and they figured out ways to have money do things for them so they money do things for them so they money do things for them so they couldn't beat the Greeks on the couldn't beat the Greeks on the couldn't beat the Greeks on the battlefield because of tactical battlefield because of tactical battlefield because of tactical dissimilarities between their armies dissimilarities between their armies dissimilarities between their armies okay well spent a lot of money have the okay well spent a lot of money have the okay well spent a lot of money have the Greeks fight each other that was Greeks fight each other that was Greeks fight each other that was wonderful they called it the wonderful they called it the wonderful they called it the Peloponnesian War it kept the Greeks Peloponnesian War it kept the Greeks Peloponnesian War it kept the Greeks busy for a long time kept them out of busy for a long time kept them out of busy for a long time kept them out of Persia's hair Persia has no doubt that Persia's hair Persia has no doubt that Persia's hair Persia has no doubt that Philips coming to invade them he's Philips coming to invade them he's Philips coming to invade them he's already basically publicly proclaimed it already basically publicly proclaimed it already basically publicly proclaimed it he's conquered a little territory he's conquered a little territory he's conquered a little territory already to establish a beachhead as we already to establish a beachhead as we already to establish a beachhead as we said he's making inroads diplomatically said he's making inroads diplomatically said he's making inroads diplomatically with some of the satraps you know

with some of the satraps you know with some of the satraps you know closest to him it's going to happen so closest to him it's going to happen so closest to him it's going to happen so if you kill him maybe it won't but as if you kill him maybe it won't but as if you kill him maybe it won't but as several of these historians point out several of these historians point out several of these historians point out the Persians probably did not have the Persians probably did not have the Persians probably did not have somebody so inside the royal family that somebody so inside the royal family that somebody so inside the royal family that they could do it quietly and that so they could do it quietly and that so they could do it quietly and that so they had to kind of do it in public or they had to kind of do it in public or they had to kind of do it in public or you never know this might be a statement you never know this might be a statement you never know this might be a statement right especially if your policy Gnaeus right especially if your policy Gnaeus right especially if your policy Gnaeus and you really are acting because you and you really are acting because you and you really are acting because you were gang raped and you know you're not were gang raped and you know you're not were gang raped and you know you're not gonna be disrespected like that gonna be disrespected like that gonna be disrespected like that it all boils down to how much you're it all boils down to how much you're it all boils down to how much you're willing to trust these ancient writers willing to trust these ancient writers willing to trust these ancient writers who preserve the details of these who preserve the details of these who preserve the details of these incidents or what they say are the incidents or what they say are the incidents or what they say are the details or what they heard were the details or what they heard were the details or what they heard were the details or what the source they were details or what the source they were details or what the source they were using said were the details you can see using said were the details you can see using said were the details you can see why so many historians would love if why so many historians would love if why so many historians would love if they could just throw all this stuff out they could just throw all this stuff out they could just throw all this stuff out is unreliable and biased and all these is unreliable and biased and all these is unreliable and biased and all these kinds of things but if you do you're not kinds of things but if you do you're not kinds of things but if you do you're not left with a whole lot right I mean for left with a whole lot right I mean for left with a whole lot right I mean for example coinage and inscriptions and example coinage and inscriptions and example coinage and inscriptions and stuff like that will tell you that stuff like that will tell you that stuff like that will tell you that during this time period there was a during this time period there was a during this time period there was a change in leadership from Philip king of change in leadership from Philip king of change in leadership from Philip king of makedonia to alexander king of makedonia makedonia to alexander king of makedonia makedonia to alexander king of makedonia but it probably won't tell you why and but it probably won't tell you why and but it probably won't tell you why and it certainly won't give you any details it certainly won't give you any details it certainly won't give you any details but that leaves the experts trying to but that leaves the experts trying to but that leaves the experts trying to pick out the fact from the fiction and pick out the fact from the fiction and pick out the fact from the fiction and well as you might imagine it's it's well as you might imagine it's it's well as you might imagine it's it's tough and views change and experts tough and views change and experts tough and views change and experts differ reminds me again a little of the differ reminds me again a little of the differ reminds me again a little of the Kennedy assassination we have a lot of Kennedy assassination we have a lot of Kennedy assassination we have a lot of different theories here and when you different theories here and when you different theories here and when you hear the rationales for them you kind of hear the rationales for them you kind of hear the rationales for them you kind of go I kind of go with a bunch of him go I kind of go with a bunch of him go I kind of go with a bunch of him going yeah that makes sense and then I

going yeah that makes sense and then I going yeah that makes sense and then I read the next but yeah that makes sense read the next but yeah that makes sense read the next but yeah that makes sense in the 1970s when I read alexander of in the 1970s when I read alexander of in the 1970s when I read alexander of macedon peter green was firmly macedon peter green was firmly macedon peter green was firmly in the camp of those who thought in the camp of those who thought in the camp of those who thought Olympius and alexander did it a dynastic Olympius and alexander did it a dynastic Olympius and alexander did it a dynastic hit now his views may have updated since hit now his views may have updated since hit now his views may have updated since then I should point out an updated then I should point out an updated then I should point out an updated doesn't mean better because there's a doesn't mean better because there's a doesn't mean better because there's a whole lot of people still think Olympius whole lot of people still think Olympius whole lot of people still think Olympius and alexander did it but the story you and alexander did it but the story you and alexander did it but the story you know you want to compare it to the JFK know you want to compare it to the JFK know you want to compare it to the JFK assassination which is a fascinating assassination which is a fascinating assassination which is a fascinating story of course at the same time it story of course at the same time it story of course at the same time it makes it look so vanilla and boring by makes it look so vanilla and boring by makes it look so vanilla and boring by comparison I mean for example if you comparison I mean for example if you comparison I mean for example if you want the analogy here that starts the want the analogy here that starts the want the analogy here that starts the the mind reeling you'd have to have the mind reeling you'd have to have the mind reeling you'd have to have Jackie Kennedy basically at the root of Jackie Kennedy basically at the root of Jackie Kennedy basically at the root of the plot to kill her husband right when the plot to kill her husband right when the plot to kill her husband right when he gets killed in the limo next to her he gets killed in the limo next to her he gets killed in the limo next to her she set that up if she's Olympius and she set that up if she's Olympius and she set that up if she's Olympius and you believe that particular conspiracy you believe that particular conspiracy you believe that particular conspiracy theory what's more the person if you theory what's more the person if you theory what's more the person if you believe Oswald took a shot at JFK that believe Oswald took a shot at JFK that believe Oswald took a shot at JFK that person is encouraged by Jackie Kennedy person is encouraged by Jackie Kennedy person is encouraged by Jackie Kennedy to do the deed and Oswald of course to do the deed and Oswald of course to do the deed and Oswald of course would have had to have a sexual would have had to have a sexual would have had to have a sexual relationship previously with JFK see how relationship previously with JFK see how relationship previously with JFK see how weird it gets them how quickly remember weird it gets them how quickly remember weird it gets them how quickly remember how wild some of the accusations from how wild some of the accusations from how wild some of the accusations from the ancient writers can get here saying the ancient writers can get here saying the ancient writers can get here saying that Olympius placed a gold crown on the that Olympius placed a gold crown on the that Olympius placed a gold crown on the assassins head the assassin was nailed assassins head the assassin was nailed assassins head the assassin was nailed to it like a cross or a gibbet and that to it like a cross or a gibbet and that to it like a cross or a gibbet and that she placed a gold crown on his head and she placed a gold crown on his head and she placed a gold crown on his head and then had it this the the ashes spread

then had it this the the ashes spread then had it this the the ashes spread over Phillips grave that every year on over Phillips grave that every year on over Phillips grave that every year on the anniversary of the murder she poured the anniversary of the murder she poured the anniversary of the murder she poured libations and offerings over them but libations and offerings over them but libations and offerings over them but she obtained the murder weapon and she obtained the murder weapon and she obtained the murder weapon and dedicated it to Apollo and used her dedicated it to Apollo and used her dedicated it to Apollo and used her maiden name when she did a lot of maiden name when she did a lot of maiden name when she did a lot of accusations right well Peter Green accusations right well Peter Green accusations right well Peter Green suggests back in the 1970s anyway a suggests back in the 1970s anyway a suggests back in the 1970s anyway a possible way it all goes down and it possible way it all goes down and it possible way it all goes down and it starts with Olympius working her starts with Olympius working her starts with Olympius working her sorceress like magic psychologically sorceress like magic psychologically sorceress like magic psychologically speaking on the Lee Harvey Oswald in speaking on the Lee Harvey Oswald in speaking on the Lee Harvey Oswald in this story this story this story I mean Plutarch has Olympius doing the I mean Plutarch has Olympius doing the I mean Plutarch has Olympius doing the initial inciting of pasta he's going up initial inciting of pasta he's going up initial inciting of pasta he's going up and playing on his grievances and and playing on his grievances and and playing on his grievances and exhorting him to do this we should exhorting him to do this we should exhorting him to do this we should recall by the way the version I gave of recall by the way the version I gave of recall by the way the version I gave of the palace Aeneas date-rape thing that the palace Aeneas date-rape thing that the palace Aeneas date-rape thing that the mild one the more severe one is that the mild one the more severe one is that the mild one the more severe one is that this all happened at a party in that this all happened at a party in that this all happened at a party in that Attalus the guy who organized the whole Attalus the guy who organized the whole Attalus the guy who organized the whole thing was one of the people who thing was one of the people who thing was one of the people who date-raped him before turning him over date-raped him before turning him over date-raped him before turning him over to the groom's who continued the process to the groom's who continued the process to the groom's who continued the process and then beat him up afterwards the and then beat him up afterwards the and then beat him up afterwards the point of the story is that this guy's point of the story is that this guy's point of the story is that this guy's humiliation would have been known to humiliation would have been known to humiliation would have been known to basically everybody imagine how quickly basically everybody imagine how quickly basically everybody imagine how quickly that gossip got around with all the that gossip got around with all the that gossip got around with all the people that mattered in his life in a people that mattered in his life in a people that mattered in his life in a culture of heroic ethos clan loyalties culture of heroic ethos clan loyalties culture of heroic ethos clan loyalties grievances generational feuds um how do grievances generational feuds um how do grievances generational feuds um how do you think this person is gonna gonna be you think this person is gonna gonna be you think this person is gonna gonna be thinking of himself anyway he's thinking of himself anyway he's thinking of himself anyway he's humiliated and if Olympius goes to him

humiliated and if Olympius goes to him humiliated and if Olympius goes to him and and commiserate with him and tells and and commiserate with him and tells and and commiserate with him and tells him that this can all be remedied right him that this can all be remedied right him that this can all be remedied right we can just put somebody else in power we can just put somebody else in power we can just put somebody else in power and not connected to your whole deed and and not connected to your whole deed and and not connected to your whole deed and all these bad people including Attalus all these bad people including Attalus all these bad people including Attalus will go away and I can think of a whole will go away and I can think of a whole will go away and I can think of a whole lot of different appeals that might have lot of different appeals that might have lot of different appeals that might have been used on a guy like Puss inia been used on a guy like Puss inia been used on a guy like Puss inia starting with the most real-world starting with the most real-world starting with the most real-world bedrock one of all how about some money bedrock one of all how about some money bedrock one of all how about some money or how about you pull this off get rid or how about you pull this off get rid or how about you pull this off get rid of the old king the new king takes over of the old king the new king takes over of the old king the new king takes over the new Kings gonna forgive you make you the new Kings gonna forgive you make you the new Kings gonna forgive you make you a valued member of your honor based a valued member of your honor based a valued member of your honor based society again you will prosper your society again you will prosper your society again you will prosper your enemies will pay that's a pretty good enemies will pay that's a pretty good enemies will pay that's a pretty good incentive in any time in place for a lot incentive in any time in place for a lot incentive in any time in place for a lot of people isn't it then of course of people isn't it then of course of people isn't it then of course there's the other tradition about what there's the other tradition about what there's the other tradition about what was maybe going on here and that's that was maybe going on here and that's that was maybe going on here and that's that Olympius was in the assassins head Olympius was in the assassins head Olympius was in the assassins head psychologically manipulating him like psychologically manipulating him like psychologically manipulating him like Jackie Kennedy working on Oswald Jackie Kennedy working on Oswald Jackie Kennedy working on Oswald psychologically there were no doctorate psychologically there were no doctorate psychologically there were no doctorate degrees in psychology in the ancient degrees in psychology in the ancient degrees in psychology in the ancient world that I know of but let's not world that I know of but let's not world that I know of but let's not pretend that the ancients especially the pretend that the ancients especially the pretend that the ancients especially the ancient Greeks didn't understand human ancient Greeks didn't understand human ancient Greeks didn't understand human psychological makeup I mean go look at psychological makeup I mean go look at psychological makeup I mean go look at their plays it's a key integral part of their plays it's a key integral part of their plays it's a key integral part of a lot of them they explore the issue a lot of them they explore the issue a lot of them they explore the issue intensely to me when I do my movie it's intensely to me when I do my movie it's intensely to me when I do my movie it's not going to be a movie it has to be not going to be a movie it has to be not going to be a movie it has to be more like a game of Thrones now that I more like a game of Thrones now that I more like a game of Thrones now that I think about it long-term sort of thing think about it long-term sort of thing think about it long-term sort of thing because there's too many characters that because there's too many characters that because there's too many characters that come in and out you can hardly learn the come in and out you can hardly learn the come in and out you can hardly learn the names and they die and much more suited

names and they die and much more suited names and they die and much more suited to that but in in the movie I'm gonna to that but in in the movie I'm gonna to that but in in the movie I'm gonna have my moment when Olympius goes to have my moment when Olympius goes to have my moment when Olympius goes to poss aeneas and gets up in his head I'm poss aeneas and gets up in his head I'm poss aeneas and gets up in his head I'm gonna have her come to him and maybe she gonna have her come to him and maybe she gonna have her come to him and maybe she did dressed the way some of these did dressed the way some of these did dressed the way some of these ancient writers described the Dionysian ancient writers described the Dionysian ancient writers described the Dionysian priestesses they carry wands one of them priestesses they carry wands one of them priestesses they carry wands one of them said they carry wands like magic wands said they carry wands like magic wands said they carry wands like magic wands some of them wrapped with ivy which was some of them wrapped with ivy which was some of them wrapped with ivy which was a sacred plant I guess others dripping a sacred plant I guess others dripping a sacred plant I guess others dripping honey which is very symbolic if you honey which is very symbolic if you honey which is very symbolic if you think about the god of fertility and all think about the god of fertility and all think about the god of fertility and all that kind of stuff and and wine and all that kind of stuff and and wine and all that kind of stuff and and wine and all that and that there were snakes that and that there were snakes that and that there were snakes everywhere sometimes on the wands everywhere sometimes on the wands everywhere sometimes on the wands wrapped around them I think it was wrapped around them I think it was wrapped around them I think it was Plutarch's had freaking the man out so Plutarch's had freaking the man out so Plutarch's had freaking the man out so she's gonna come in my long term HBO she's gonna come in my long term HBO she's gonna come in my long term HBO miniseries um she's going to come to miniseries um she's going to come to miniseries um she's going to come to Paul say Gnaeus and she's gonna get in Paul say Gnaeus and she's gonna get in Paul say Gnaeus and she's gonna get in his head and she's gonna promise a very his head and she's gonna promise a very his head and she's gonna promise a very Dionysian thing to promise because Dionysian thing to promise because Dionysian thing to promise because remember Dionysus is you know the remember Dionysus is you know the remember Dionysus is you know the Apollonian tradition according to Apollonian tradition according to Apollonian tradition according to Nietzsche anyway and others is that Nietzsche anyway and others is that Nietzsche anyway and others is that that's the rational side of the human that's the rational side of the human that's the rational side of the human mind the logic and all but it's all the mind the logic and all but it's all the mind the logic and all but it's all the other stuff that Dionysus controls the other stuff that Dionysus controls the other stuff that Dionysus controls the hidden stuff these the the subconscious hidden stuff these the the subconscious hidden stuff these the the subconscious the emotional the inspirational the the emotional the inspirational the the emotional the inspirational the madness I mean heck acting and most of madness I mean heck acting and most of madness I mean heck acting and most of the arts are Dionysian at their root the arts are Dionysian at their root the arts are Dionysian at their root it's a little mysterious right it's very it's a little mysterious right it's very it's a little mysterious right it's very mysterious to us now looking back in the mysterious to us now looking back in the mysterious to us now looking back in the ancient world but even in the ancient ancient world but even in the ancient ancient world but even in the ancient world was kind of mysterious it was part world was kind of mysterious it was part world was kind of mysterious it was part of the attraction and she represents of the attraction and she represents of the attraction and she represents this now another name say this I'm gonna this now another name say this I'm gonna this now another name say this I'm gonna do it is the producer of this thing the do it is the producer of this thing the do it is the producer of this thing the other name for Dionysus that Dionysus

other name for Dionysus that Dionysus other name for Dionysus that Dionysus was known as was the Liberator right was known as was the Liberator right was known as was the Liberator right frees you from care worry sorrow pain frees you from care worry sorrow pain frees you from care worry sorrow pain the good side of what wine might do to the good side of what wine might do to the good side of what wine might do to you especially in the ancient world you especially in the ancient world you especially in the ancient world versus the destructive nature which is versus the destructive nature which is versus the destructive nature which is the divine madness and all that kind of the divine madness and all that kind of the divine madness and all that kind of stuff although she wouldn't have seen stuff although she wouldn't have seen stuff although she wouldn't have seen that as destructive that's one of the that as destructive that's one of the that as destructive that's one of the good things right well she is promising good things right well she is promising good things right well she is promising as a priestess for The Liberator maybe as a priestess for The Liberator maybe as a priestess for The Liberator maybe to liberate pase Gnaeus from his cares to liberate pase Gnaeus from his cares to liberate pase Gnaeus from his cares and worries and this he'll that he lives and worries and this he'll that he lives and worries and this he'll that he lives in we should also point out that she's in we should also point out that she's in we should also point out that she's the one who supposedly has horses the one who supposedly has horses the one who supposedly has horses waiting for the conspirators right soon waiting for the conspirators right soon waiting for the conspirators right soon remember there's not one horse waiting remember there's not one horse waiting remember there's not one horse waiting the tradition has multiple horses there the tradition has multiple horses there the tradition has multiple horses there multiple getaway vehicles why do you multiple getaway vehicles why do you multiple getaway vehicles why do you multiple horses if he only have one multiple horses if he only have one multiple horses if he only have one assassin Peter Green has a 1970s rundown assassin Peter Green has a 1970s rundown assassin Peter Green has a 1970s rundown of how it might have happened when he of how it might have happened when he of how it might have happened when he writes quote from these facts we may writes quote from these facts we may writes quote from these facts we may perhaps form a hypothesis as to how perhaps form a hypothesis as to how perhaps form a hypothesis as to how Phillips murder was planned and carried Phillips murder was planned and carried Phillips murder was planned and carried out policy Gnaeus still hot with out policy Gnaeus still hot with out policy Gnaeus still hot with resentment at the abominable way he had resentment at the abominable way he had resentment at the abominable way he had been treated was approached probably by been treated was approached probably by been treated was approached probably by Olympius and promised higher rewards and Olympius and promised higher rewards and Olympius and promised higher rewards and honors if he would join with his three honors if he would join with his three honors if he would join with his three kinsmen from arrest us in assassinating kinsmen from arrest us in assassinating kinsmen from arrest us in assassinating the king I should point out those three the king I should point out those three the king I should point out those three kinsmen or Philips bodyguards so the kinsmen or Philips bodyguards so the kinsmen or Philips bodyguards so the guys who Jack Ruby him in a minute are guys who Jack Ruby him in a minute are guys who Jack Ruby him in a minute are the guys who were supposed to work with the guys who were supposed to work with the guys who were supposed to work with him in the assassination this is going him in the assassination this is going him in the assassination this is going to be very Joker like from Batman Green

to be very Joker like from Batman Green to be very Joker like from Batman Green continues quote Olympius undertook to continues quote Olympius undertook to continues quote Olympius undertook to have horses ready for all four of them have horses ready for all four of them have horses ready for all four of them afterwards afterwards afterwards but what posse Gnaeus clearly did not but what posse Gnaeus clearly did not but what posse Gnaeus clearly did not know was the real role assigned to his know was the real role assigned to his know was the real role assigned to his fellow conspirators those trusted fellow conspirators those trusted fellow conspirators those trusted intimates of Alexander their business intimates of Alexander their business intimates of Alexander their business was not the removal of Philip it was to was not the removal of Philip it was to was not the removal of Philip it was to silence him he knew too much once he had silence him he knew too much once he had silence him he knew too much once he had served his purpose he was expendable served his purpose he was expendable served his purpose he was expendable after his death the propaganda machine after his death the propaganda machine after his death the propaganda machine could go smoothly into action the could go smoothly into action the could go smoothly into action the elimination of post aeneas was an elimination of post aeneas was an elimination of post aeneas was an essential stage in the plot essential stage in the plot essential stage in the plot circumstantial evidence he writes does circumstantial evidence he writes does circumstantial evidence he writes does not amount to proof positive but men not amount to proof positive but men not amount to proof positive but men have been hanged on weaker cumulative have been hanged on weaker cumulative have been hanged on weaker cumulative testimony than that assembled here the testimony than that assembled here the testimony than that assembled here the motive was overwhelming the opportunity motive was overwhelming the opportunity motive was overwhelming the opportunity ideal end quote whenever there are these ideal end quote whenever there are these ideal end quote whenever there are these giant earthquake moments in history it giant earthquake moments in history it giant earthquake moments in history it just seems wrong for us to not know more just seems wrong for us to not know more just seems wrong for us to not know more about them because there the import about them because there the import about them because there the import would seem to demand that there be more would seem to demand that there be more would seem to demand that there be more information about them but then I information about them but then I information about them but then I remember the Kennedy assassination which remember the Kennedy assassination which remember the Kennedy assassination which happened two years before I was born and happened two years before I was born and happened two years before I was born and look at how much you think you know but look at how much you think you know but look at how much you think you know but you don't know about that so imagine you don't know about that so imagine you don't know about that so imagine something more than 2,000 years ago something more than 2,000 years ago something more than 2,000 years ago I've always loved a V Bosworth an I've always loved a V Bosworth an I've always loved a V Bosworth an Alexander and historian I like his view Alexander and historian I like his view Alexander and historian I like his view that Alexander was you know let's not that Alexander was you know let's not that Alexander was you know let's not romanticize him too much but Bosworth romanticize him too much but Bosworth romanticize him too much but Bosworth points out about this period something points out about this period something points out about this period something that we all need to take into account of that we all need to take into account of that we all need to take into account of that does Heil that does Heil that does Heil how difficult to historians job is how difficult to historians job is how difficult to historians job is trying to piece this stuff together and

trying to piece this stuff together and trying to piece this stuff together and the need to use all sorts of things like the need to use all sorts of things like the need to use all sorts of things like coinage and archaeology and a bunch of coinage and archaeology and a bunch of coinage and archaeology and a bunch of other other disciplines to supplement other other disciplines to supplement other other disciplines to supplement the meager bits of information sometimes the meager bits of information sometimes the meager bits of information sometimes or the contradictory stuff and he writes or the contradictory stuff and he writes or the contradictory stuff and he writes about this period right after Philips about this period right after Philips about this period right after Philips death quote the first few days of death quote the first few days of death quote the first few days of Alexander's reign must have been among Alexander's reign must have been among Alexander's reign must have been among the most critical of his career the most critical of his career the most critical of his career unfortunately no connected account unfortunately no connected account unfortunately no connected account survives of them there are scraps of survives of them there are scraps of survives of them there are scraps of epitome and random flashbacks from later epitome and random flashbacks from later epitome and random flashbacks from later history but most of the crucial details history but most of the crucial details history but most of the crucial details are irretrievably lost there is infinite are irretrievably lost there is infinite are irretrievably lost there is infinite scope for speculation and imaginative scope for speculation and imaginative scope for speculation and imaginative reconstruction but the sources reconstruction but the sources reconstruction but the sources themselves allow very little to be said themselves allow very little to be said themselves allow very little to be said we must be prepared to admit our we must be prepared to admit our we must be prepared to admit our ignorance however galling that may be ignorance however galling that may be ignorance however galling that may be end quote these are the kind of end quote these are the kind of end quote these are the kind of unknowables by the way that make this a unknowables by the way that make this a unknowables by the way that make this a hardcore history addendum show and not a hardcore history addendum show and not a hardcore history addendum show and not a full hardcore history program because a full hardcore history program because a full hardcore history program because a lot of the data points are missing lot of the data points are missing lot of the data points are missing forget about the stuff between the data forget about the stuff between the data forget about the stuff between the data points you don't know major things like points you don't know major things like points you don't know major things like whether or not Olympius can accurately whether or not Olympius can accurately whether or not Olympius can accurately be placed at Philips assassination was be placed at Philips assassination was be placed at Philips assassination was she there was she and I witness there she there was she and I witness there she there was she and I witness there are historians who say no that she was are historians who say no that she was are historians who say no that she was back in her homeland at this time and back in her homeland at this time and back in her homeland at this time and that she didn't come back to makedonia that she didn't come back to makedonia that she didn't come back to makedonia until Philip was good and safely out of until Philip was good and safely out of until Philip was good and safely out of the way good and dead maybe for reasons the way good and dead maybe for reasons the way good and dead maybe for reasons of their own personal security others of their own personal security others of their own personal security others though generally following different though generally following different though generally following different ancient sources say that she hardly ancient sources say that she hardly ancient sources say that she hardly would have missed a wedding between her would have missed a wedding between her would have missed a wedding between her daughter and her brother with her son

daughter and her brother with her son daughter and her brother with her son there at an event that was in part there at an event that was in part there at an event that was in part staged to show that everything's just staged to show that everything's just staged to show that everything's just hunky-dory with the royal house you know hunky-dory with the royal house you know hunky-dory with the royal house you know before the big Persian expedition before the big Persian expedition before the big Persian expedition she's a prop in that propaganda show she's a prop in that propaganda show she's a prop in that propaganda show isn't she she's got to be there but you isn't she she's got to be there but you isn't she she's got to be there but you don't know another thing you don't know don't know another thing you don't know don't know another thing you don't know about it and it's key to what's going on about it and it's key to what's going on about it and it's key to what's going on behind the scenes now is how many behind the scenes now is how many behind the scenes now is how many children philip ii actually had Richard children philip ii actually had Richard children philip ii actually had Richard a Gabriel says they only record the a Gabriel says they only record the a Gabriel says they only record the official kids of the official wives in official kids of the official wives in official kids of the official wives in the makedonia tradition but then says the makedonia tradition but then says the makedonia tradition but then says Philip was a rampant I believe the word Philip was a rampant I believe the word Philip was a rampant I believe the word he used was rampant womanizer he used was rampant womanizer he used was rampant womanizer he quotes Justin I think it was not the he quotes Justin I think it was not the he quotes Justin I think it was not the greatest of all sources but who says greatest of all sources but who says greatest of all sources but who says that Philip had sons all over the place that Philip had sons all over the place that Philip had sons all over the place and just because they're not official in and just because they're not official in and just because they're not official in the makedonia system that didn't matter the makedonia system that didn't matter the makedonia system that didn't matter the amount of royal blood mattered the amount of royal blood mattered the amount of royal blood mattered whether it was official or not less whether it was official or not less whether it was official or not less important especially if you were a tool important especially if you were a tool important especially if you were a tool of a powerful makedonia clan that wants of a powerful makedonia clan that wants of a powerful makedonia clan that wants to push you know for their chance to to push you know for their chance to to push you know for their chance to have the boss of bosses job and will have the boss of bosses job and will have the boss of bosses job and will overlook any problems with this overlook any problems with this overlook any problems with this contender hack he's one of phillips kids contender hack he's one of phillips kids contender hack he's one of phillips kids who cares if he's a bastard so who cares if he's a bastard so who cares if he's a bastard so Alexander's first several weeks or a Alexander's first several weeks or a Alexander's first several weeks or a month month and a half hard to know what month month and a half hard to know what month month and a half hard to know what happened but eventually he merges as the happened but eventually he merges as the happened but eventually he merges as the king he's 20 years old by the way some king he's 20 years old by the way some king he's 20 years old by the way some of the powerful bearings that might have of the powerful bearings that might have of the powerful bearings that might have pushed back on him so quickly being pushed back on him so quickly being pushed back on him so quickly being acclaimed King are just conveniently out

acclaimed King are just conveniently out acclaimed King are just conveniently out of the way including AXA list the guy of the way including AXA list the guy of the way including AXA list the guy who said I hope we have a full-blooded who said I hope we have a full-blooded who said I hope we have a full-blooded True Blood Macedonian heir and you know True Blood Macedonian heir and you know True Blood Macedonian heir and you know precipitated that drunken fight which precipitated that drunken fight which precipitated that drunken fight which led to the need to have the wedding that led to the need to have the wedding that led to the need to have the wedding that Philip was just killed at a Dallas is Philip was just killed at a Dallas is Philip was just killed at a Dallas is conveniently back at the bridgehead conveniently back at the bridgehead conveniently back at the bridgehead preparing things for the big Asian preparing things for the big Asian preparing things for the big Asian expedition and Alexander starts his expedition and Alexander starts his expedition and Alexander starts his purges these are not abnormal when the purges these are not abnormal when the purges these are not abnormal when the kingship changes hands in makedonia in kingship changes hands in makedonia in kingship changes hands in makedonia in history it's often bloody it's almost history it's often bloody it's almost history it's often bloody it's almost like there's a godfather list people to like there's a godfather list people to like there's a godfather list people to be hit when the Godfather died and when be hit when the Godfather died and when be hit when the Godfather died and when my father does carry out your orders and my father does carry out your orders and my father does carry out your orders and when Philip is killed people start when Philip is killed people start when Philip is killed people start getting killed because of it Alexander's getting killed because of it Alexander's getting killed because of it Alexander's official line once he becomes king by official line once he becomes king by official line once he becomes king by the way is that Passini astac ttle own the way is that Passini astac ttle own the way is that Passini astac ttle own this was a conspiracy at his father's this was a conspiracy at his father's this was a conspiracy at his father's funeral at the gravesite he executes funeral at the gravesite he executes funeral at the gravesite he executes people a couple of people he's related people a couple of people he's related people a couple of people he's related to and on his father's side anyway to and on his father's side anyway to and on his father's side anyway people who potentially could have been people who potentially could have been people who potentially could have been put forward I mean people who might have put forward I mean people who might have put forward I mean people who might have had a claim to the kingship but had a claim to the kingship but had a claim to the kingship but Alexander says they were involved in the Alexander says they were involved in the Alexander says they were involved in the plot to kill his dad boom they're gone plot to kill his dad boom they're gone plot to kill his dad boom they're gone and here's the weird part they might and here's the weird part they might and here's the weird part they might have been but this becomes very stalin have been but this becomes very stalin have been but this becomes very stalin asked this becomes you know stalin had asked this becomes you know stalin had asked this becomes you know stalin had the Kirov excuse Kirov the Kirov excuse Kirov the Kirov excuse Kirov nation is the thing that makes all these nation is the thing that makes all these nation is the thing that makes all these purges and and and killings justified purges and and and killings justified purges and and and killings justified Alexander had his dad's and it allows Alexander had his dad's and it allows Alexander had his dad's and it allows him to cover up the traditional him to cover up the traditional him to cover up the traditional makedonia purges where lots of people

makedonia purges where lots of people makedonia purges where lots of people are gonna get whacked including Atlas are gonna get whacked including Atlas are gonna get whacked including Atlas he'll get it he'll get it he'll get it he gets it by like slow messenger they he gets it by like slow messenger they he gets it by like slow messenger they they have their own version of like they have their own version of like they have their own version of like heat-seeking drone missiles or something heat-seeking drone missiles or something heat-seeking drone missiles or something but they just take forever to get to but they just take forever to get to but they just take forever to get to their targets like the speed of a horse their targets like the speed of a horse their targets like the speed of a horse alexander sends an assassin it's a alexander sends an assassin it's a alexander sends an assassin it's a couple probably weeks to get the asia couple probably weeks to get the asia couple probably weeks to get the asia minor and we are left wondering how the minor and we are left wondering how the minor and we are left wondering how the assassination happened this often assassination happened this often assassination happened this often happens in the ancient writings they'll happens in the ancient writings they'll happens in the ancient writings they'll tell you that something happened but tell you that something happened but tell you that something happened but they won't tell you how in the case of a they won't tell you how in the case of a they won't tell you how in the case of a mode of death they did use poison they mode of death they did use poison they mode of death they did use poison they did stuff like that but this sounds like did stuff like that but this sounds like did stuff like that but this sounds like one of those traditional sort of one of those traditional sort of one of those traditional sort of man-to-man hits back before guns were man-to-man hits back before guns were man-to-man hits back before guns were around knives were very popular and if around knives were very popular and if around knives were very popular and if you think about the ways the gangsters you think about the ways the gangsters you think about the ways the gangsters would do it in like the 1920s they grab would do it in like the 1920s they grab would do it in like the 1920s they grab your hands sometimes in a handshake hold your hands sometimes in a handshake hold your hands sometimes in a handshake hold you really tight and then use a pistol you really tight and then use a pistol you really tight and then use a pistol on you from close range they would do on you from close range they would do on you from close range they would do the knife equivalent sometimes in the the knife equivalent sometimes in the the knife equivalent sometimes in the ancient world so it'd be easy to imagine ancient world so it'd be easy to imagine ancient world so it'd be easy to imagine a Dallas who was probably in his 60s at a Dallas who was probably in his 60s at a Dallas who was probably in his 60s at this time goes out to greet the this time goes out to greet the this time goes out to greet the makedonia messenger they probably makedonia messenger they probably makedonia messenger they probably vaguely know each other maybe some kind vaguely know each other maybe some kind vaguely know each other maybe some kind of an embrace and then a knife just in of an embrace and then a knife just in of an embrace and then a knife just in the right place now remember it was at the right place now remember it was at the right place now remember it was at Alyssa's niece Cleopatra such a common Alyssa's niece Cleopatra such a common Alyssa's niece Cleopatra such a common name that is confusing who will then name that is confusing who will then name that is confusing who will then change it to you Riddick II another change it to you Riddick II another change it to you Riddick II another super common name and confusing super common name and confusing super common name and confusing she married Philip right that was again she married Philip right that was again she married Philip right that was again the thing that caused the most recent the thing that caused the most recent the thing that caused the most recent rift in the family and she has born one rift in the family and she has born one rift in the family and she has born one maybe two children another one of those maybe two children another one of those maybe two children another one of those things that's calling because we don't

things that's calling because we don't things that's calling because we don't know for sure how many children did know for sure how many children did know for sure how many children did Cleopatra have in a short time and were Cleopatra have in a short time and were Cleopatra have in a short time and were they male or female I'm not going to they male or female I'm not going to they male or female I'm not going to take a position take a position take a position experts differ there was supposed to be experts differ there was supposed to be experts differ there was supposed to be a female her name Europa there was in a female her name Europa there was in a female her name Europa there was in other sources supposed to be a male his other sources supposed to be a male his other sources supposed to be a male his name crater Asst well you could have name crater Asst well you could have name crater Asst well you could have either one or the other or both either one or the other or both either one or the other or both I don't know neither one of them are I don't know neither one of them are I don't know neither one of them are gonna make it very long in this world gonna make it very long in this world gonna make it very long in this world though because they are both under the though because they are both under the though because they are both under the age of two and they and their mother are age of two and they and their mother are age of two and they and their mother are about to get whacked now about to get whacked now about to get whacked now you may say why are you spending so much you may say why are you spending so much you may say why are you spending so much time on Alexander the Great's purges as time on Alexander the Great's purges as time on Alexander the Great's purges as he initially comes to power it's a he initially comes to power it's a he initially comes to power it's a logical question Elizabeth Carney logical question Elizabeth Carney logical question Elizabeth Carney answers it when she says because answers it when she says because answers it when she says because Olympius participated in them one of her Olympius participated in them one of her Olympius participated in them one of her claims to infamy historically speaking claims to infamy historically speaking claims to infamy historically speaking is that she's the one who eliminates is that she's the one who eliminates is that she's the one who eliminates Philips new wife newest wife remember Philips new wife newest wife remember Philips new wife newest wife remember Philips newest wife is his seventh I Philips newest wife is his seventh I Philips newest wife is his seventh I should point out she eliminates Philips should point out she eliminates Philips should point out she eliminates Philips newest wife and his one or two children newest wife and his one or two children newest wife and his one or two children that are either male or female or both that are either male or female or both that are either male or female or both this is one of the events that Olympius this is one of the events that Olympius this is one of the events that Olympius is most known for and it colors her is most known for and it colors her is most known for and it colors her entire historical reputation so as you entire historical reputation so as you entire historical reputation so as you might imagine Elizabeth Carney writing might imagine Elizabeth Carney writing might imagine Elizabeth Carney writing an entire book on Olympius has the an entire book on Olympius has the an entire book on Olympius has the luxury of spending some time on the luxury of spending some time on the luxury of spending some time on the question and devotes several pages to question and devotes several pages to question and devotes several pages to the possibilities and the first the possibilities and the first the possibilities and the first possibility is that it never happened at possibility is that it never happened at possibility is that it never happened at all all all when we need to bear this in mind right when we need to bear this in mind right when we need to bear this in mind right we've talked about this historical

we've talked about this historical we've talked about this historical equivalent to fake news or whatever equivalent to fake news or whatever equivalent to fake news or whatever thousands Viers limited sources thousands Viers limited sources thousands Viers limited sources unreliable sometimes I mean may never unreliable sometimes I mean may never unreliable sometimes I mean may never have happened if it did happen what was have happened if it did happen what was have happened if it did happen what was going on there was it some outbreak of going on there was it some outbreak of going on there was it some outbreak of you know like raging hormones and you know like raging hormones and you know like raging hormones and jealousy and all this sort of stuff from jealousy and all this sort of stuff from jealousy and all this sort of stuff from one wife to another the real soap opera one wife to another the real soap opera one wife to another the real soap opera stuff right you stole my husband and I'm stuff right you stole my husband and I'm stuff right you stole my husband and I'm gonna get you know Elizabeth Carney gonna get you know Elizabeth Carney gonna get you know Elizabeth Carney points out that these are highfalutin points out that these are highfalutin points out that these are highfalutin diplomatic marriages with Kings who go diplomatic marriages with Kings who go diplomatic marriages with Kings who go out and sleep with anyone they want I out and sleep with anyone they want I out and sleep with anyone they want I mean this is not a question of sexuality mean this is not a question of sexuality mean this is not a question of sexuality and all that especially probably not by and all that especially probably not by and all that especially probably not by her age in the ancient world this is her age in the ancient world this is her age in the ancient world this is about power and in some cases about about power and in some cases about about power and in some cases about personal security and those two things personal security and those two things personal security and those two things are related and the way you know this is are related and the way you know this is are related and the way you know this is that had Cleopatra you know Philips last that had Cleopatra you know Philips last that had Cleopatra you know Philips last wife got into Olympius an Alexander wife got into Olympius an Alexander wife got into Olympius an Alexander first the shoe very well could have been first the shoe very well could have been first the shoe very well could have been on the other foot Elizabeth Carney says on the other foot Elizabeth Carney says on the other foot Elizabeth Carney says that this very likely was a do unto that this very likely was a do unto that this very likely was a do unto others before they did unto you sort of others before they did unto you sort of others before they did unto you sort of thing you hit their family at Alyssa's thing you hit their family at Alyssa's thing you hit their family at Alyssa's family before they get you family before they get you family before they get you Attalus of course the uncle of cleopatra Attalus of course the uncle of cleopatra Attalus of course the uncle of cleopatra and he dies too one of the things that and he dies too one of the things that and he dies too one of the things that Carney points out though is that people Carney points out though is that people Carney points out though is that people die a lot in these makedonia and power die a lot in these makedonia and power die a lot in these makedonia and power transitions as we said and by the transitions as we said and by the transitions as we said and by the standards of the time and place this may standards of the time and place this may standards of the time and place this may have been a relatively lightweight purge

have been a relatively lightweight purge have been a relatively lightweight purge right merciful purge this side of the right merciful purge this side of the right merciful purge this side of the family Cleopatra was always gonna get family Cleopatra was always gonna get family Cleopatra was always gonna get cut off and any of her offspring were cut off and any of her offspring were cut off and any of her offspring were too it is unusual it won't be as unusual too it is unusual it won't be as unusual too it is unusual it won't be as unusual after this time period for one woman to after this time period for one woman to after this time period for one woman to be eliminating another woman and a be eliminating another woman and a be eliminating another woman and a female child likely female child Europa female child likely female child Europa female child likely female child Europa that that's unusual but if these were that that's unusual but if these were that that's unusual but if these were makedonia and males it would have been makedonia and males it would have been makedonia and males it would have been realpolitik and typical makedonia and realpolitik and typical makedonia and realpolitik and typical makedonia and stuff because it's a female it's blamed stuff because it's a female it's blamed stuff because it's a female it's blamed on jealousy and whatnot but Elizabeth on jealousy and whatnot but Elizabeth on jealousy and whatnot but Elizabeth Carney says and she seems to come down Carney says and she seems to come down Carney says and she seems to come down if I'm reading her right on the on the if I'm reading her right on the on the if I'm reading her right on the on the idea that it did happen but it happened idea that it did happen but it happened idea that it did happen but it happened for the same kind of calculating she for the same kind of calculating she for the same kind of calculating she says Olympia's was always a very says Olympia's was always a very says Olympia's was always a very calculating person that it comes down to calculating person that it comes down to calculating person that it comes down to the same sort of calculation that Philip the same sort of calculation that Philip the same sort of calculation that Philip himself her husband now in the ground himself her husband now in the ground himself her husband now in the ground would have made she's a hardcore realist would have made she's a hardcore realist would have made she's a hardcore realist and she got Cleopatra and the Attalus and she got Cleopatra and the Attalus and she got Cleopatra and the Attalus side of the family before they got her side of the family before they got her side of the family before they got her and her son and how it actually happened and her son and how it actually happened and her son and how it actually happened is once again the debatable stuff I mean is once again the debatable stuff I mean is once again the debatable stuff I mean did she carry out the killings herself did she carry out the killings herself did she carry out the killings herself did she order them how was it done a did she order them how was it done a did she order them how was it done a much later unreliable source famously much later unreliable source famously much later unreliable source famously says that she had the the other wife of says that she had the the other wife of says that she had the the other wife of Philip and the infant or infants dragged Philip and the infant or infants dragged Philip and the infant or infants dragged over a heap of burning coals like a over a heap of burning coals like a over a heap of burning coals like a giant barbecue which again colors her giant barbecue which again colors her giant barbecue which again colors her historical reputation whether or not she historical reputation whether or not she historical reputation whether or not she did that the killing of the infant too did that the killing of the infant too did that the killing of the infant too is very hard for everyone and Elizabeth is very hard for everyone and Elizabeth is very hard for everyone and Elizabeth Carney goes into that quite a bit and

Carney goes into that quite a bit and Carney goes into that quite a bit and how that would have been perceived how that would have been perceived how that would have been perceived during the time period and all this kind during the time period and all this kind during the time period and all this kind of stuff Connie writes that other than of stuff Connie writes that other than of stuff Connie writes that other than the novelty of the woman-on-woman the novelty of the woman-on-woman the novelty of the woman-on-woman violence it might not have rattled violence it might not have rattled violence it might not have rattled people that much and she writes quote people that much and she writes quote people that much and she writes quote several factors indicate that several factors indicate that several factors indicate that contemporaries were not particularly contemporaries were not particularly contemporaries were not particularly surprised or bothered by Olympia's surprised or bothered by Olympia's surprised or bothered by Olympia's actions the mere ABB's actions the mere ABB's actions the mere ABB's to the incident for most accounts is to the incident for most accounts is to the incident for most accounts is suggestive it was not an attention suggestive it was not an attention suggestive it was not an attention grabber grabber grabber unlike other acts of violence committed unlike other acts of violence committed unlike other acts of violence committed by Alexander or Olympius the sources do by Alexander or Olympius the sources do by Alexander or Olympius the sources do not mention them again at least in terms not mention them again at least in terms not mention them again at least in terms of Olympius dynastic murders were a dime of Olympius dynastic murders were a dime of Olympius dynastic murders were a dime a dozen before and after these a dozen before and after these a dozen before and after these particular deaths and some of those particular deaths and some of those particular deaths and some of those murdered were children Philips mother murdered were children Philips mother murdered were children Philips mother had been accused albeit almost certainly had been accused albeit almost certainly had been accused albeit almost certainly unjustly of dynastic murders one unjustly of dynastic murders one unjustly of dynastic murders one suspects she writes that many thought suspects she writes that many thought suspects she writes that many thought that Attalus and cleopatra could hardly that Attalus and cleopatra could hardly that Attalus and cleopatra could hardly have expected anything else once Philip have expected anything else once Philip have expected anything else once Philip was dead they had committed themselves was dead they had committed themselves was dead they had committed themselves to what proved to be the losing side in to what proved to be the losing side in to what proved to be the losing side in a dynastic struggle and past rains a dynastic struggle and past rains a dynastic struggle and past rains demonstrated what happened to those who demonstrated what happened to those who demonstrated what happened to those who made such a poor choice and quote she made such a poor choice and quote she made such a poor choice and quote she goes on to theorize that it's possible goes on to theorize that it's possible goes on to theorize that it's possible that the death was by hanging reasons that the death was by hanging reasons that the death was by hanging reasons for which we will describe later but for which we will describe later but for which we will describe later but like a self hanging like a suicide where like a self hanging like a suicide where like a self hanging like a suicide where you know they put up a rope or they hand you know they put up a rope or they hand you know they put up a rope or they hand the former bride of Philip a rope and

the former bride of Philip a rope and the former bride of Philip a rope and sort of suggest the same way ernst röhm sort of suggest the same way ernst röhm sort of suggest the same way ernst röhm in the night of the Long Knives in Nazi in the night of the Long Knives in Nazi in the night of the Long Knives in Nazi Germany was supposed to have been given Germany was supposed to have been given Germany was supposed to have been given such a choice you know here you go do such a choice you know here you go do such a choice you know here you go do what you know you have to do kind of what you know you have to do kind of what you know you have to do kind of thing and no real word on what happened thing and no real word on what happened thing and no real word on what happened to the infant another one of the to the infant another one of the to the infant another one of the unreliable ancient sources says that unreliable ancient sources says that unreliable ancient sources says that Olympia's killed the infants in front of Olympia's killed the infants in front of Olympia's killed the infants in front of and there were two in that story I think and there were two in that story I think and there were two in that story I think I killed the infants in front of the I killed the infants in front of the I killed the infants in front of the mother and then she either died when she mother and then she either died when she mother and then she either died when she saw that out of grief or whatever or saw that out of grief or whatever or saw that out of grief or whatever or killed herself after that you can see killed herself after that you can see killed herself after that you can see why Olympius gets such a fearsome rep the next year and a half or so of what's the next year and a half or so of what's going on in their lives is going to be going on in their lives is going to be going on in their lives is going to be Alexander putting together Humpty Dumpty Alexander putting together Humpty Dumpty Alexander putting together Humpty Dumpty again his father's creation which was again his father's creation which was again his father's creation which was held together in a rickety sort of sense held together in a rickety sort of sense held together in a rickety sort of sense with a bunch of people who didn't want with a bunch of people who didn't want with a bunch of people who didn't want to be involved in this Asian expedition to be involved in this Asian expedition to be involved in this Asian expedition under makedonia leadership but what were under makedonia leadership but what were under makedonia leadership but what were they going to do right they going to do right they going to do right combination of Philips energy his genius combination of Philips energy his genius combination of Philips energy his genius and later in life his gravitas and let's and later in life his gravitas and let's and later in life his gravitas and let's be honest backed by the best army around be honest backed by the best army around be honest backed by the best army around kept everybody in line and when he died kept everybody in line and when he died kept everybody in line and when he died all those people who would have liked to all those people who would have liked to all those people who would have liked to have seen him dead whether or not they have seen him dead whether or not they have seen him dead whether or not they paid the bill for the murder paid the bill for the murder paid the bill for the murder incorporation tab you know took the incorporation tab you know took the incorporation tab you know took the opportunity to throw off the makedonia opportunity to throw off the makedonia opportunity to throw off the makedonia yoke and the next year and a half or so yoke and the next year and a half or so yoke and the next year and a half or so is Alexander trying to put the yoke back is Alexander trying to put the yoke back is Alexander trying to put the yoke back in Humpty know I'm a fan of Alexander

in Humpty know I'm a fan of Alexander in Humpty know I'm a fan of Alexander and many of these details I'm going to and many of these details I'm going to and many of these details I'm going to leave out here will be in that eventual leave out here will be in that eventual leave out here will be in that eventual show whenever the hell I do it but let's show whenever the hell I do it but let's show whenever the hell I do it but let's not ignore the fact that Alexander not ignore the fact that Alexander not ignore the fact that Alexander doesn't just inherit the great army of doesn't just inherit the great army of doesn't just inherit the great army of its day which you know anybody could its day which you know anybody could its day which you know anybody could probably do pretty well with he also probably do pretty well with he also probably do pretty well with he also inherits the leadership of that army inherits the leadership of that army inherits the leadership of that army we'd said earlier that he was like ginga we'd said earlier that he was like ginga we'd said earlier that he was like ginga scone and a poli and that he had the scone and a poli and that he had the scone and a poli and that he had the great set of marshals and generals great set of marshals and generals great set of marshals and generals around him they really fall into two around him they really fall into two around him they really fall into two major groups let's call them because major groups let's call them because major groups let's call them because other people have the old guard and the other people have the old guard and the other people have the old guard and the new guard the old guard our dads new guard the old guard our dads new guard the old guard our dads generals Attalus was one of those guys generals Attalus was one of those guys generals Attalus was one of those guys there's a bunch of them and they're all there's a bunch of them and they're all there's a bunch of them and they're all famous and they're good and they are famous and they're good and they are famous and they're good and they are hard-bitten and they're old by this time hard-bitten and they're old by this time hard-bitten and they're old by this time remember this is not young by today's remember this is not young by today's remember this is not young by today's age standards this is a world where age standards this is a world where age standards this is a world where these ages are quite a bit older than these ages are quite a bit older than these ages are quite a bit older than they are today they are today they are today these guys are in their 50s and 60s these guys are in their 50s and 60s these guys are in their 50s and 60s think of how much fighting they've think of how much fighting they've think of how much fighting they've already done and think about how they already done and think about how they already done and think about how they they came from a time before all this they came from a time before all this they came from a time before all this glitz when makedonia was ruling this glitz when makedonia was ruling this glitz when makedonia was ruling this whole part of the world Alexander was whole part of the world Alexander was whole part of the world Alexander was born into that world right I wonder how born into that world right I wonder how born into that world right I wonder how they felt about the 20 year old they felt about the 20 year old they felt about the 20 year old wunderkind right especially before he wunderkind right especially before he wunderkind right especially before he was proven as anything like of was proven as anything like of was proven as anything like of wunderkind not just that these guys are wunderkind not just that these guys are wunderkind not just that these guys are not like the modern generals in the not like the modern generals in the not like the modern generals in the military his job it is to salute and military his job it is to salute and military his job it is to salute and like robots do what they're told by like robots do what they're told by like robots do what they're told by their superior you know we we said these their superior you know we we said these their superior you know we we said these are like bosses of other crime families are like bosses of other crime families are like bosses of other crime families now they may listen to the boss of now they may listen to the boss of now they may listen to the boss of bosses right now but at the situation bosses right now but at the situation bosses right now but at the situation were to turn against their interest that were to turn against their interest that were to turn against their interest that could change these are barons that's a could change these are barons that's a could change these are barons that's a better way to look at them guys like

better way to look at them guys like better way to look at them guys like Attalus are barons and the king has Attalus are barons and the king has Attalus are barons and the king has their Allegiance for now Alexander has their Allegiance for now Alexander has their Allegiance for now Alexander has the help of one of these really the help of one of these really the help of one of these really formidable guys who's probably in his formidable guys who's probably in his formidable guys who's probably in his 60s by this time a guy named Ann 60s by this time a guy named Ann 60s by this time a guy named Ann Thibodeau Antipodes opposed Thibodeau Antipodes opposed Thibodeau Antipodes opposed to have sided with Alexander during the to have sided with Alexander during the to have sided with Alexander during the transition of power when things might transition of power when things might transition of power when things might have been kind of hairy and then all of have been kind of hairy and then all of have been kind of hairy and then all of a sudden he has one of these great a sudden he has one of these great a sudden he has one of these great Barons backing him and the other great Barons backing him and the other great Barons backing him and the other great Baron's are away and you know this Baron's are away and you know this Baron's are away and you know this Antipodes kind of friends of the family Antipodes kind of friends of the family Antipodes kind of friends of the family he's loyal to Philip and he shows that he's loyal to Philip and he shows that he's loyal to Philip and he shows that loyalty by helping Philip son and loyalty by helping Philip son and loyalty by helping Philip son and Olympius they were supposed to be on Olympius they were supposed to be on Olympius they were supposed to be on good terms initially the reason for good terms initially the reason for good terms initially the reason for bringing Antipodes name into all this bringing Antipodes name into all this bringing Antipodes name into all this though is that they're not going to be though is that they're not going to be though is that they're not going to be on good terms for long this is going to on good terms for long this is going to on good terms for long this is going to turn out to be probably the most turn out to be probably the most turn out to be probably the most negative personal relationship in negative personal relationship in negative personal relationship in Olympia's life in terms of consequences Olympia's life in terms of consequences Olympia's life in terms of consequences the reason things go south between XI the reason things go south between XI the reason things go south between XI and antipodal are often tied to and antipodal are often tied to and antipodal are often tied to Alexander leaving along with a giant Alexander leaving along with a giant Alexander leaving along with a giant chunk of the army most of the chunk of the army most of the chunk of the army most of the mercenaries and a lot of Greek allies mercenaries and a lot of Greek allies mercenaries and a lot of Greek allies when he launches his dad's mission his when he launches his dad's mission his when he launches his dad's mission his dad's plan for an invasion of Asia dad's plan for an invasion of Asia dad's plan for an invasion of Asia himself with his dad's army throws a himself with his dad's army throws a himself with his dad's army throws a spear when he's disembarking from the spear when he's disembarking from the spear when he's disembarking from the boat onto the Asian side into the sand boat onto the Asian side into the sand boat onto the Asian side into the sand calls the entire area spear one calls the entire area spear one calls the entire area spear one territory and were off to be dealt with territory and were off to be dealt with territory and were off to be dealt with later in the inevitable Alexander's show

later in the inevitable Alexander's show later in the inevitable Alexander's show this will continue by the way for 10 to this will continue by the way for 10 to this will continue by the way for 10 to 11 years as Alexander continues until 11 years as Alexander continues until 11 years as Alexander continues until his army makes him stop an army who his army makes him stop an army who his army makes him stop an army who adored him and saw him as almost a God adored him and saw him as almost a God adored him and saw him as almost a God King and finally he said we can't go any King and finally he said we can't go any King and finally he said we can't go any farther we have snakes and elephants and farther we have snakes and elephants and farther we have snakes and elephants and monsoons and we don't even remember what monsoons and we don't even remember what monsoons and we don't even remember what home looks like in our armors falling home looks like in our armors falling home looks like in our armors falling office can we stop now office can we stop now office can we stop now and Alexander basically called him a and Alexander basically called him a and Alexander basically called him a bunch of ingrates what do you want bunch of ingrates what do you want bunch of ingrates what do you want meanwhile antipodal and his mother are meanwhile antipodal and his mother are meanwhile antipodal and his mother are both in Macedonia Antipodes the guy who both in Macedonia Antipodes the guy who both in Macedonia Antipodes the guy who Alexander picked to run the show when Alexander picked to run the show when Alexander picked to run the show when I'm gone somebody has to hold down the I'm gone somebody has to hold down the I'm gone somebody has to hold down the fort interpreter gets the job friend of fort interpreter gets the job friend of fort interpreter gets the job friend of the family if you got to pick one of the family if you got to pick one of the family if you got to pick one of these unreliable makedonia barons this these unreliable makedonia barons this these unreliable makedonia barons this guy looks like the most reliable right guy looks like the most reliable right guy looks like the most reliable right this this family's been the most this this family's been the most this this family's been the most reliable to me the boss of bosses I'll reliable to me the boss of bosses I'll reliable to me the boss of bosses I'll put you in charge antipodal he doesn't put you in charge antipodal he doesn't put you in charge antipodal he doesn't really have it seems like an official really have it seems like an official really have it seems like an official position for his mother but do you think position for his mother but do you think position for his mother but do you think Olympius is just gonna sit there and say Olympius is just gonna sit there and say Olympius is just gonna sit there and say nothing a lot of wise probably would but nothing a lot of wise probably would but nothing a lot of wise probably would but this is this is this is she makes the history books Kashyyyk she she makes the history books Kashyyyk she she makes the history books Kashyyyk she doesn't say nothing she says a lot of doesn't say nothing she says a lot of doesn't say nothing she says a lot of stuff and interpreters got a deal with stuff and interpreters got a deal with stuff and interpreters got a deal with Alexander's mom probably not used to Alexander's mom probably not used to Alexander's mom probably not used to dealing with women like this at all who dealing with women like this at all who dealing with women like this at all who get up in your grill and questions some get up in your grill and questions some get up in your grill and questions some of the things you do the funny part of the things you do the funny part of the things you do the funny part about it is you can't really believe any about it is you can't really believe any about it is you can't really believe any of the letters that the Alexander of the letters that the Alexander of the letters that the Alexander romance that some of these sources have romance that some of these sources have romance that some of these sources have that supposedly show correspondence but that supposedly show correspondence but that supposedly show correspondence but you can see that there was you can see that there was you can see that there was correspondence to Alexander from both of correspondence to Alexander from both of correspondence to Alexander from both of those people complaining about each those people complaining about each those people complaining about each other so his mom would write letters to other so his mom would write letters to other so his mom would write letters to Alexander when he's off in Asia saying

Alexander when he's off in Asia saying Alexander when he's off in Asia saying you know Antipodes a exceeding his you know Antipodes a exceeding his you know Antipodes a exceeding his authority he's acting like a king he's authority he's acting like a king he's authority he's acting like a king he's in danger of you know becoming a monarch in danger of you know becoming a monarch in danger of you know becoming a monarch himself and all each a complaining himself and all each a complaining himself and all each a complaining complaining complaining and Antipodes complaining complaining and Antipodes complaining complaining and Antipodes ready the Alexander complaining about ready the Alexander complaining about ready the Alexander complaining about his mom and the interference and she's his mom and the interference and she's his mom and the interference and she's you know she's uh exceeding her you know she's uh exceeding her you know she's uh exceeding her Authority and getting involved in things Authority and getting involved in things Authority and getting involved in things she shouldn't speaking of getting she shouldn't speaking of getting she shouldn't speaking of getting involved in things she probably involved in things she probably involved in things she probably shouldn't one of the stories about shouldn't one of the stories about shouldn't one of the stories about mother and son Olympius and Alexander mother and son Olympius and Alexander mother and son Olympius and Alexander that always makes the rounds as evidence that always makes the rounds as evidence that always makes the rounds as evidence someone points out of the mama's boy someone points out of the mama's boy someone points out of the mama's boy oedipal complex version or view of oedipal complex version or view of oedipal complex version or view of Alexander has to do with worries over Alexander has to do with worries over Alexander has to do with worries over Alexander's sexuality as he gets older Alexander's sexuality as he gets older Alexander's sexuality as he gets older now the reason this comes into play at now the reason this comes into play at now the reason this comes into play at this point in the story is because this point in the story is because this point in the story is because before this great invasion of Asia this before this great invasion of Asia this before this great invasion of Asia this King who's been a king you know a year King who's been a king you know a year King who's been a king you know a year and a half something like that almost and a half something like that almost and a half something like that almost two years um he has no wife and he has two years um he has no wife and he has two years um he has no wife and he has no heir and his generals are telling him no heir and his generals are telling him no heir and his generals are telling him listen it would be really smart you're listen it would be really smart you're listen it would be really smart you're gonna be at the tip of the spear here gonna be at the tip of the spear here gonna be at the tip of the spear here fighting lots of battles in this big fighting lots of battles in this big fighting lots of battles in this big country you should have an heir and country you should have an heir and country you should have an heir and Alexander shows no real enthusiasm for Alexander shows no real enthusiasm for Alexander shows no real enthusiasm for this and the story is famous of this and the story is famous of this and the story is famous of Alexander's mother hiring him a Alexander's mother hiring him a Alexander's mother hiring him a Thessalian courtesan that facilities in Thessalian courtesan that facilities in Thessalian courtesan that facilities in northern Greece in a courtesan of course northern Greece in a courtesan of course northern Greece in a courtesan of course is a prostitute although in this day and is a prostitute although in this day and is a prostitute although in this day and age these might have been people of some age these might have been people of some age these might have been people of some status and wealth and standing - status and wealth and standing - status and wealth and standing - especially if you're getting one for a especially if you're getting one for a especially if you're getting one for a prince Peter Green writes quote both he prince Peter Green writes quote both he prince Peter Green writes quote both he meaning Philip Alexander's dead meaning Philip Alexander's dead meaning Philip Alexander's dead both he and Olympius according to Thea

both he and Olympius according to Thea both he and Olympius according to Thea Frosty's were worried by among other Frosty's were worried by among other Frosty's were worried by among other things the boys lack of heterosexual things the boys lack of heterosexual things the boys lack of heterosexual interests they feared he might be interests they feared he might be interests they feared he might be turning out a girlish invert and even turning out a girlish invert and even turning out a girlish invert and even went so far as to procure a beautiful went so far as to procure a beautiful went so far as to procure a beautiful facility artisan named calyx zinnia I facility artisan named calyx zinnia I facility artisan named calyx zinnia I believe it is to help develop his manly believe it is to help develop his manly believe it is to help develop his manly nature Olympia's herself we are told nature Olympia's herself we are told nature Olympia's herself we are told frequently begged him to have frequently begged him to have frequently begged him to have intercourse with this woman which does intercourse with this woman which does intercourse with this woman which does not suggest any great enthusiasm on his not suggest any great enthusiasm on his not suggest any great enthusiasm on his part but then what son would take kindly part but then what son would take kindly part but then what son would take kindly to a maternally selected mistress and to a maternally selected mistress and to a maternally selected mistress and quote good point they're a little weird quote good point they're a little weird quote good point they're a little weird least nowadays nevertheless without heir least nowadays nevertheless without heir least nowadays nevertheless without heir or wife in 334 BCE Alexander takes off or wife in 334 BCE Alexander takes off or wife in 334 BCE Alexander takes off on his adventure in Asia never to return on his adventure in Asia never to return on his adventure in Asia never to return home again leaving his mother and home again leaving his mother and home again leaving his mother and interpreter back at home and this is interpreter back at home and this is interpreter back at home and this is where the data points get sparse right where the data points get sparse right where the data points get sparse right they sort of go away with Alexander they sort of go away with Alexander they sort of go away with Alexander she's doing a couple of things it's she's doing a couple of things it's she's doing a couple of things it's thought back at home the first thing is thought back at home the first thing is thought back at home the first thing is she is obviously the equivalent of the she is obviously the equivalent of the she is obviously the equivalent of the Kings eye in Persia that's the famous Kings eye in Persia that's the famous Kings eye in Persia that's the famous position where the Persian King would position where the Persian King would position where the Persian King would have an official who stayed in the have an official who stayed in the have an official who stayed in the governor's palaces and watched the governor's palaces and watched the governor's palaces and watched the governors for the king watched to make governors for the king watched to make governors for the king watched to make sure that they do what the King wanted sure that they do what the King wanted sure that they do what the King wanted watch to make sure you know go to the watch to make sure you know go to the watch to make sure you know go to the marketplace listen to the scuttlebutt marketplace listen to the scuttlebutt marketplace listen to the scuttlebutt listen to any rumors of a fine and listen to any rumors of a fine and listen to any rumors of a fine and constantly report back to the king she constantly report back to the king she constantly report back to the king she was certainly doing this for Alexander

as we said earlier she's the person the as we said earlier she's the person the one person probably in this world whose one person probably in this world whose one person probably in this world whose interest completely line up with interest completely line up with interest completely line up with Alexander's and the one person he can Alexander's and the one person he can Alexander's and the one person he can almost totally trust her her power rests almost totally trust her her power rests almost totally trust her her power rests on him right his life and success is on him right his life and success is on him right his life and success is what makes her power manifest and so she what makes her power manifest and so she what makes her power manifest and so she has the same interest he does let's has the same interest he does let's has the same interest he does let's protect Alexander in his interest so protect Alexander in his interest so protect Alexander in his interest so she's watching and tippet er for she's watching and tippet er for she's watching and tippet er for Alexander no doubt about that but she's Alexander no doubt about that but she's Alexander no doubt about that but she's also doing things in a Liz abbath also doing things in a Liz abbath also doing things in a Liz abbath Kearney it's a great book by the way Kearney it's a great book by the way Kearney it's a great book by the way it's not a child's book but if you like it's not a child's book but if you like it's not a child's book but if you like Olympius it's the only one I found just Olympius it's the only one I found just Olympius it's the only one I found just on Olympius pick that up but she points on Olympius pick that up but she points on Olympius pick that up but she points out that women in the ancient world did out that women in the ancient world did out that women in the ancient world did things that are sometimes under the things that are sometimes under the things that are sometimes under the radar but that are these really radar but that are these really radar but that are these really parts of the story like diplomacy it's parts of the story like diplomacy it's parts of the story like diplomacy it's such a personal relationship thing in such a personal relationship thing in such a personal relationship thing in this time period although I've known this time period although I've known this time period although I've known diplomats who will say it's still about diplomats who will say it's still about diplomats who will say it's still about personal relationships even today go personal relationships even today go personal relationships even today go look if you just want to see how look if you just want to see how look if you just want to see how recently it was how it could even recently it was how it could even recently it was how it could even manifest look at the correspondence manifest look at the correspondence manifest look at the correspondence between the the various royal families between the the various royal families between the the various royal families of Europe before the first world war of Europe before the first world war of Europe before the first world war broke out and how much they were writing broke out and how much they were writing broke out and how much they were writing these intimate letters to their cousins these intimate letters to their cousins these intimate letters to their cousins and whatnot but bringing up major things and whatnot but bringing up major things and whatnot but bringing up major things like treaties and agreements and like treaties and agreements and like treaties and agreements and diplomacy and everything else right diplomacy and everything else right diplomacy and everything else right unofficial diplomatic stuff from the unofficial diplomatic stuff from the unofficial diplomatic stuff from the back channels if you will well in most back channels if you will well in most back channels if you will well in most periods in human history most places had periods in human history most places had periods in human history most places had it on a like a personal level right it on a like a personal level right it on a like a personal level right who's in your rolodex I know that guy who's in your rolodex I know that guy who's in your rolodex I know that guy I'll go talk to him whatever it might be I'll go talk to him whatever it might be I'll go talk to him whatever it might be right a lot of these people would send right a lot of these people would send right a lot of these people would send their children to foreign courts and their children to foreign courts and their children to foreign courts and then they would come back home later and

then they would come back home later and then they would come back home later and then if you needed to do diplomacy with then if you needed to do diplomacy with then if you needed to do diplomacy with those courts you'd send the child that those courts you'd send the child that those courts you'd send the child that grew up there right if Alexander or grew up there right if Alexander or grew up there right if Alexander or Philip had a problem with anyone in the Philip had a problem with anyone in the Philip had a problem with anyone in the Pyrus you send Olympius right she's from Pyrus you send Olympius right she's from Pyrus you send Olympius right she's from there she knows everybody I grew up with there she knows everybody I grew up with there she knows everybody I grew up with all those people I'll go talk to them all those people I'll go talk to them all those people I'll go talk to them that's personal diplomacy it sounds like that's personal diplomacy it sounds like that's personal diplomacy it sounds like she was doing a lot of that and that's she was doing a lot of that and that's she was doing a lot of that and that's the kind of stuff that maybe antipodal the kind of stuff that maybe antipodal the kind of stuff that maybe antipodal would be like she's you know exceeding would be like she's you know exceeding would be like she's you know exceeding her Authority they also found her her Authority they also found her her Authority they also found her signature or her daughter's signature on signature or her daughter's signature on signature or her daughter's signature on some official shipments of food and some official shipments of food and some official shipments of food and stuff so it's theorized that maybe stuff so it's theorized that maybe stuff so it's theorized that maybe during a time of food shortage she during a time of food shortage she during a time of food shortage she either signed the invoice or maybe even either signed the invoice or maybe even either signed the invoice or maybe even out of her own funds paid for food to be out of her own funds paid for food to be out of her own funds paid for food to be brought in that's another thing that brought in that's another thing that brought in that's another thing that might look like it undercut Antipodes might look like it undercut Antipodes might look like it undercut Antipodes you know competence or whatever I'm you know competence or whatever I'm you know competence or whatever I'm complaining about that to Alexander at complaining about that to Alexander at complaining about that to Alexander at my next letter my next letter my next letter but even as Alexander continues and goes but even as Alexander continues and goes but even as Alexander continues and goes from victory to victory in the East from victory to victory in the East from victory to victory in the East there's almost like something from his there's almost like something from his there's almost like something from his mother that follows him and once again mother that follows him and once again mother that follows him and once again who the heck I can I can't stress that who the heck I can I can't stress that who the heck I can I can't stress that enough this is part of a story a story enough this is part of a story a story enough this is part of a story a story that may be based I'd love to be able to that may be based I'd love to be able to that may be based I'd love to be able to compare the original to what it's become compare the original to what it's become compare the original to what it's become and how much of this stuff is true when and how much of this stuff is true when and how much of this stuff is true when when multiple sources talk about it you when multiple sources talk about it you when multiple sources talk about it you start to put a little bit more hmm maybe start to put a little bit more hmm maybe start to put a little bit more hmm maybe there's something to this something goes there's something to this something goes there's something to this something goes wrong with Alexander over wrong with Alexander over wrong with Alexander over the the the slightly more than a decade the the the slightly more than a decade the the the slightly more than a decade that he has left in this life while he's that he has left in this life while he's that he has left in this life while he's becoming the great something's going on becoming the great something's going on becoming the great something's going on in his head and there's been debate ever in his head and there's been debate ever in his head and there's been debate ever since about what this is the easiest

since about what this is the easiest since about what this is the easiest thing to probably point to is he looks thing to probably point to is he looks thing to probably point to is he looks like some of the other great conquerors like some of the other great conquerors like some of the other great conquerors in history who would engage and embark in history who would engage and embark in history who would engage and embark on a lucky Lucky's the wrong word but on a lucky Lucky's the wrong word but on a lucky Lucky's the wrong word but but a string of unbroken successes but a string of unbroken successes but a string of unbroken successes improbable amounts of success to where improbable amounts of success to where improbable amounts of success to where they start to think of themselves as they start to think of themselves as they start to think of themselves as something more than human something more than human something more than human a man of destiny somebody smiled on by a man of destiny somebody smiled on by a man of destiny somebody smiled on by the gods or whatever right the story the gods or whatever right the story the gods or whatever right the story about Alexander always contains this about Alexander always contains this about Alexander always contains this question of whether or not Philip was question of whether or not Philip was question of whether or not Philip was his real father and if Philip wasn't his his real father and if Philip wasn't his his real father and if Philip wasn't his real father the implication was that it real father the implication was that it real father the implication was that it was Zeus we told you about the lightning was Zeus we told you about the lightning was Zeus we told you about the lightning striking the womb thing all that's part striking the womb thing all that's part striking the womb thing all that's part of later writings but it's all part of of later writings but it's all part of of later writings but it's all part of this idea that Alexander began to wonder this idea that Alexander began to wonder this idea that Alexander began to wonder and and there was a wonderful historian and and there was a wonderful historian and and there was a wonderful historian I read who tried to point out that this I read who tried to point out that this I read who tried to point out that this isn't that unusual in the isn't that unusual in the isn't that unusual in the greek-macedonian way of seeing things greek-macedonian way of seeing things greek-macedonian way of seeing things because that's after all what the because that's after all what the because that's after all what the Achilles is and the Heracles azar these Achilles is and the Heracles azar these Achilles is and the Heracles azar these are people whose deeds proved to be so are people whose deeds proved to be so are people whose deeds proved to be so superhuman that you can then sort of go superhuman that you can then sort of go superhuman that you can then sort of go well obviously they're they're part God well obviously they're they're part God well obviously they're they're part God right that's how you know that you're a right that's how you know that you're a right that's how you know that you're a demigod or something and if you're an demigod or something and if you're an demigod or something and if you're an Alexander and you're doing these amazing Alexander and you're doing these amazing Alexander and you're doing these amazing things well gosh we've seen it in more things well gosh we've seen it in more things well gosh we've seen it in more modern times where it seems to be a modern times where it seems to be a modern times where it seems to be a known hazard of the great Conqueror known hazard of the great Conqueror known hazard of the great Conqueror business that you might become business that you might become business that you might become megalomaniacal and you might start to megalomaniacal and you might start to megalomaniacal and you might start to think there's something divine going on think there's something divine going on think there's something divine going on here and Olympia is his impact on this here and Olympia is his impact on this here and Olympia is his impact on this story is that you know it's unlikely

story is that you know it's unlikely story is that you know it's unlikely that Hitler's mom was whispering in his that Hitler's mom was whispering in his that Hitler's mom was whispering in his ear that there was something super ear that there was something super ear that there was something super special about him Napoleon's mom either special about him Napoleon's mom either special about him Napoleon's mom either the tradition hold that that's not the the tradition hold that that's not the the tradition hold that that's not the case with Alexander his mother was case with Alexander his mother was case with Alexander his mother was whispering in his ear at the very least whispering in his ear at the very least whispering in his ear at the very least remember that you are a descendent of remember that you are a descendent of remember that you are a descendent of Achilles but it might be a little bit Achilles but it might be a little bit Achilles but it might be a little bit bigger even than that one of the things bigger even than that one of the things bigger even than that one of the things another historian that I read pointed another historian that I read pointed another historian that I read pointed out I hadn't even thought about this but out I hadn't even thought about this but out I hadn't even thought about this but it's right that in a patch early it's right that in a patch early it's right that in a patch early society like makedonia where everybody society like makedonia where everybody society like makedonia where everybody always calls attention to their their always calls attention to their their always calls attention to their their father's family line father's family line father's family line Alexander constantly called attention to Alexander constantly called attention to Alexander constantly called attention to his mother's and constantly sort of his mother's and constantly sort of his mother's and constantly sort of associated himself with the kilise associated himself with the kilise associated himself with the kilise rather than his dad's line that Heracles rather than his dad's line that Heracles rather than his dad's line that Heracles Zeus however which is sort of you know Zeus however which is sort of you know Zeus however which is sort of you know it all devolves to Zeus in the end it all devolves to Zeus in the end it all devolves to Zeus in the end Zeus however began to fascinate him as Zeus however began to fascinate him as Zeus however began to fascinate him as his conquest went on and the Alexander's his conquest went on and the Alexander's his conquest went on and the Alexander's story famously he's going to go to all story famously he's going to go to all story famously he's going to go to all these Oracle's when he conquers Egypt he these Oracle's when he conquers Egypt he these Oracle's when he conquers Egypt he finds the the famous Oracle there and finds the the famous Oracle there and finds the the famous Oracle there and he's going into these Oracle's and the he's going into these Oracle's and the he's going into these Oracle's and the stories are that he's asking these stories are that he's asking these stories are that he's asking these Oracle's you know let's fill up my dad Oracle's you know let's fill up my dad Oracle's you know let's fill up my dad and the implication is that Phillip and the implication is that Phillip and the implication is that Phillip isn't his dad Zeus is now all by itself isn't his dad Zeus is now all by itself isn't his dad Zeus is now all by itself I'm not even sure the thinking that you I'm not even sure the thinking that you I'm not even sure the thinking that you are the son of a god or something is all are the son of a god or something is all are the son of a god or something is all that terrible depends on how it works that terrible depends on how it works that terrible depends on how it works out right maybe you're a wonderful out right maybe you're a wonderful out right maybe you're a wonderful person who thinks they're the son of a person who thinks they're the son of a person who thinks they're the son of a god but in Alexander's case it's wrapped god but in Alexander's case it's wrapped god but in Alexander's case it's wrapped up with all the other traditional stuff up with all the other traditional stuff up with all the other traditional stuff that's going on the megalomania the that's going on the megalomania the that's going on the megalomania the mental instability historians and mental instability historians and mental instability historians and writers ever since had been trying to

writers ever since had been trying to writers ever since had been trying to put a label on it and figure it out put a label on it and figure it out put a label on it and figure it out there's so much unknown space in which there's so much unknown space in which there's so much unknown space in which to theorize you get pretty wide to theorize you get pretty wide to theorize you get pretty wide variation of ideas I have a whole book variation of ideas I have a whole book variation of ideas I have a whole book devoted to the idea that if you plug in devoted to the idea that if you plug in devoted to the idea that if you plug in rampant alcoholism for X the unknown rampant alcoholism for X the unknown rampant alcoholism for X the unknown quantity in the story boom everything quantity in the story boom everything quantity in the story boom everything else makes sense well that's just an else makes sense well that's just an else makes sense well that's just an argument but there's no doubt about it argument but there's no doubt about it argument but there's no doubt about it that if you could bring Olympius from that if you could bring Olympius from that if you could bring Olympius from her home or the or the or the ruling her home or the or the or the ruling her home or the or the or the ruling area of makedonia in a giant Concorde area of makedonia in a giant Concorde area of makedonia in a giant Concorde jet land here in Babylon where Alexander jet land here in Babylon where Alexander jet land here in Babylon where Alexander is ten years after she last saw him if is ten years after she last saw him if is ten years after she last saw him if she could have a conversation with her she could have a conversation with her she could have a conversation with her son I wonder if she would recognize him son I wonder if she would recognize him son I wonder if she would recognize him the alcohol situation is a factor the alcohol situation is a factor the alcohol situation is a factor there's no doubt about it I mean his there's no doubt about it I mean his there's no doubt about it I mean his best friend and probable lover of best friend and probable lover of best friend and probable lover of fustian will die from drinking and not fustian will die from drinking and not fustian will die from drinking and not only does he almost died from drinking only does he almost died from drinking only does he almost died from drinking initially he's told to lay off the initially he's told to lay off the initially he's told to lay off the drinking for like a few days and he drinking for like a few days and he drinking for like a few days and he can't even do that and when he drinks can't even do that and when he drinks can't even do that and when he drinks the more he dies if Alexander's response the more he dies if Alexander's response the more he dies if Alexander's response to this was to drink more I mean these to this was to drink more I mean these to this was to drink more I mean these are people who are dying sometimes I are people who are dying sometimes I are people who are dying sometimes I mean imagine having chugalug contests mean imagine having chugalug contests mean imagine having chugalug contests where sometimes one of the participants where sometimes one of the participants where sometimes one of the participants dies I just imagine the other dies I just imagine the other dies I just imagine the other participant turning around lowering his participant turning around lowering his participant turning around lowering his giant cauldron of wine and going I win giant cauldron of wine and going I win giant cauldron of wine and going I win it's pretty hardcore right the only it's pretty hardcore right the only it's pretty hardcore right the only thing I could say that sort of mollify thing I could say that sort of mollify thing I could say that sort of mollify is it a little bit is that the Persians is it a little bit is that the Persians is it a little bit is that the Persians that Alexander took over their ruler that Alexander took over their ruler that Alexander took over their ruler kind of is a big drinker and is supposed kind of is a big drinker and is supposed kind of is a big drinker and is supposed to be a big drinker like that to a to be a big drinker like that to a to be a big drinker like that to a heroic drinker you want to be the king heroic drinker you want to be the king heroic drinker you want to be the king of the Persians you better be able to of the Persians you better be able to of the Persians you better be able to drink sir just saying even now I think

drink sir just saying even now I think drink sir just saying even now I think okay rampant alcoholic who thinks he's okay rampant alcoholic who thinks he's okay rampant alcoholic who thinks he's the son of a god you could still work the son of a god you could still work the son of a god you could still work with that couldn't you it's when you get with that couldn't you it's when you get with that couldn't you it's when you get to another of the known pitfalls of this to another of the known pitfalls of this to another of the known pitfalls of this great Conqueror sort of lifestyle that great Conqueror sort of lifestyle that great Conqueror sort of lifestyle that it all falls apart for him maybe the the it all falls apart for him maybe the the it all falls apart for him maybe the the paranoia and the suspicion and he begins paranoia and the suspicion and he begins paranoia and the suspicion and he begins to start killing the people around him to start killing the people around him to start killing the people around him he begins to think everyone's a threat he begins to think everyone's a threat he begins to think everyone's a threat and maybe those letters from his mom and maybe those letters from his mom and maybe those letters from his mom years ago that we're saying Antipodes years ago that we're saying Antipodes years ago that we're saying Antipodes trying to take over temperature doing trying to take over temperature doing trying to take over temperature doing too much antipathy this and maybe he too much antipathy this and maybe he too much antipathy this and maybe he could rebuke her back then just say lay could rebuke her back then just say lay could rebuke her back then just say lay off I know I know he's trying to conquer off I know I know he's trying to conquer off I know I know he's trying to conquer the world I'll get back to you maybe now the world I'll get back to you maybe now the world I'll get back to you maybe now when you become more suspicious and as when you become more suspicious and as when you become more suspicious and as the mental instability takes hold and the mental instability takes hold and the mental instability takes hold and all these other problems he's got some all these other problems he's got some all these other problems he's got some war wounds that are maybe taking a toll war wounds that are maybe taking a toll war wounds that are maybe taking a toll on him sort of - he's not the man he was on him sort of - he's not the man he was on him sort of - he's not the man he was probably maybe you start listening to probably maybe you start listening to probably maybe you start listening to your mom's letters a little bit more you your mom's letters a little bit more you your mom's letters a little bit more you you already were thinking everyone you already were thinking everyone you already were thinking everyone around you is plotting and now she's around you is plotting and now she's around you is plotting and now she's saying this stuff about antipodean she's saying this stuff about antipodean she's saying this stuff about antipodean she's been saying it for like ten years been saying it for like ten years been saying it for like ten years certainly there where there's smoke certainly there where there's smoke certainly there where there's smoke there's fire in 3:23 Alexander decides there's fire in 3:23 Alexander decides there's fire in 3:23 Alexander decides to sack antipodal to sack antipodal to sack antipodal sends him a note from Babylon saying sends him a note from Babylon saying sends him a note from Babylon saying bring me some more replacement troops bring me some more replacement troops bring me some more replacement troops and come on over here I want to see you and come on over here I want to see you and come on over here I want to see you with everybody getting whacked around with everybody getting whacked around with everybody getting whacked around Alexander all of a sudden an tippet or Alexander all of a sudden an tippet or Alexander all of a sudden an tippet or who was in his 60s 70s maybe even now he who was in his 60s 70s maybe even now he who was in his 60s 70s maybe even now he thinks this is a trap traditionally he's thinks this is a trap traditionally he's thinks this is a trap traditionally he's he and anybody would think mafia crime he and anybody would think mafia crime he and anybody would think mafia crime family again Alexander wants you to come

family again Alexander wants you to come family again Alexander wants you to come on over to this clam house and have a on over to this clam house and have a on over to this clam house and have a little something to eat just want to little something to eat just want to little something to eat just want to talk to you talk to you talk to you so my interpreter doesn't go anywhere he so my interpreter doesn't go anywhere he so my interpreter doesn't go anywhere he doesn't drop his command and leave doesn't drop his command and leave doesn't drop his command and leave makedonia and go to see Alexander he makedonia and go to see Alexander he makedonia and go to see Alexander he doesn't respond to the summons so doesn't respond to the summons so doesn't respond to the summons so eventually he does send his son eventually he does send his son eventually he does send his son Cassander though cassandra is about Cassander though cassandra is about Cassander though cassandra is about Alexander's a Alexander's a Alexander's a by the way and he's important to the by the way and he's important to the by the way and he's important to the story very important story very important story very important Elizabeth Carney pointed out something Elizabeth Carney pointed out something Elizabeth Carney pointed out something that you kind of remember knowing but I that you kind of remember knowing but I that you kind of remember knowing but I didn't sink in until she said it was how didn't sink in until she said it was how didn't sink in until she said it was how many of these people had known each many of these people had known each many of these people had known each other their whole lives what's more in other their whole lives what's more in other their whole lives what's more in the makedonia in court many of these the makedonia in court many of these the makedonia in court many of these people's parents knew each other as people's parents knew each other as people's parents knew each other as toddlers and in a lot of cases even toddlers and in a lot of cases even toddlers and in a lot of cases even their grandparents played together on their grandparents played together on their grandparents played together on the schoolyard Alexander and Cassander the schoolyard Alexander and Cassander the schoolyard Alexander and Cassander were two of the people in that very tiny were two of the people in that very tiny were two of the people in that very tiny class taught by Aristotle and when you class taught by Aristotle and when you class taught by Aristotle and when you look at that class when the students in look at that class when the students in look at that class when the students in that class are named they all become that class are named they all become that class are named they all become like Alexander's generals and his like Alexander's generals and his like Alexander's generals and his advisors and his bodyguards earlier we advisors and his bodyguards earlier we advisors and his bodyguards earlier we had mentioned the old guard of the had mentioned the old guard of the had mentioned the old guard of the generals Phillips you know people his generals Phillips you know people his generals Phillips you know people his dad's generals he has his own dad's generals he has his own dad's generals he has his own contemporaries who become generals and contemporaries who become generals and contemporaries who become generals and become great leaders of armies after his become great leaders of armies after his become great leaders of armies after his time - and these are all guys that went time - and these are all guys that went time - and these are all guys that went to school with him Kassandra is one of to school with him Kassandra is one of to school with him Kassandra is one of those guys but they don't really like those guys but they don't really like those guys but they don't really like each other that much apparently and each other that much apparently and each other that much apparently and Cassander shows up in Alexander's court Cassander shows up in Alexander's court Cassander shows up in Alexander's court ostensibly I guess to beg for his dad's ostensibly I guess to beg for his dad's ostensibly I guess to beg for his dad's job but in this case that's almost the job but in this case that's almost the job but in this case that's almost the same thing as begging for his life and same thing as begging for his life and same thing as begging for his life and in a famous story once again take it or

in a famous story once again take it or in a famous story once again take it or leave it leave it leave it Cassandra walks in and sees something Cassandra walks in and sees something Cassandra walks in and sees something that the makedonia pnes around alexander that the makedonia pnes around alexander that the makedonia pnes around alexander have become accustomed to but Cassander have become accustomed to but Cassander have become accustomed to but Cassander hasn't seen it yet he sees the persians hasn't seen it yet he sees the persians hasn't seen it yet he sees the persians bowing on the ground - Alexander it's bowing on the ground - Alexander it's bowing on the ground - Alexander it's how they treat their kings you know you how they treat their kings you know you how they treat their kings you know you see the same thing in Egypt that's how see the same thing in Egypt that's how see the same thing in Egypt that's how they treated the Pharaohs right get they treated the Pharaohs right get they treated the Pharaohs right get right down on the ground like a god but right down on the ground like a god but right down on the ground like a god but the makedonia 'ns didn't do that stuff the makedonia 'ns didn't do that stuff the makedonia 'ns didn't do that stuff right they thought it wasn't democracy right they thought it wasn't democracy right they thought it wasn't democracy what they had in makedonia but it was what they had in makedonia but it was what they had in makedonia but it was this sort of a gala day or we claimed this sort of a gala day or we claimed this sort of a gala day or we claimed the leader it was a much more the leader it was a much more the leader it was a much more down-to-earth sort of leadership by down-to-earth sort of leadership by down-to-earth sort of leadership by comparison a Cassander is supposed to comparison a Cassander is supposed to comparison a Cassander is supposed to have seen the persians doing this in have seen the persians doing this in have seen the persians doing this in front of Alexander - Alexander and front of Alexander - Alexander and front of Alexander - Alexander and laughing at it or making fun of it and laughing at it or making fun of it and laughing at it or making fun of it and in the story Alexander and this is a in the story Alexander and this is a in the story Alexander and this is a sign probably of the megalomania but sign probably of the megalomania but sign probably of the megalomania but maybe he would have done this back in maybe he would have done this back in maybe he would have done this back in the old days Alexander grabs him by the the old days Alexander grabs him by the the old days Alexander grabs him by the hair and starts smashing his head hair and starts smashing his head hair and starts smashing his head against the wall scaring Cassander so against the wall scaring Cassander so against the wall scaring Cassander so badly that we're told I think it was badly that we're told I think it was badly that we're told I think it was blue Turk who said that you know decades blue Turk who said that you know decades blue Turk who said that you know decades later long after Alexander is dead and later long after Alexander is dead and later long after Alexander is dead and gone a Cassander couldn't even pass a gone a Cassander couldn't even pass a gone a Cassander couldn't even pass a statue of the man without going weakened statue of the man without going weakened statue of the man without going weakened and I think futhark said taking quite a and I think futhark said taking quite a and I think futhark said taking quite a while to recover Cassandra was hardly while to recover Cassandra was hardly while to recover Cassandra was hardly the only person though scared at this the only person though scared at this the only person though scared at this time Alexander had everybody on edge time Alexander had everybody on edge time Alexander had everybody on edge it's like the Third Reich at the end or it's like the Third Reich at the end or it's like the Third Reich at the end or I mean all these rulers get a little I mean all these rulers get a little I mean all these rulers get a little unstable at the end and they see plots unstable at the end and they see plots unstable at the end and they see plots everywhere there are a lot of people who everywhere there are a lot of people who everywhere there are a lot of people who may at this time have thought that it may at this time have thought that it may at this time have thought that it was worth taking a chance on trying to was worth taking a chance on trying to was worth taking a chance on trying to get rid of Alexander because if you

get rid of Alexander because if you get rid of Alexander because if you didn't get rid of him he was likely to didn't get rid of him he was likely to didn't get rid of him he was likely to get rid of you get rid of you get rid of you and Cassander is one of the people and Cassander is one of the people and Cassander is one of the people implicated as a potential participant in implicated as a potential participant in implicated as a potential participant in Alexander's death by the way not only is Alexander's death by the way not only is Alexander's death by the way not only is Antipodes oldest son Cassander here Antipodes oldest son Cassander here Antipodes oldest son Cassander here Cassandra's brother another son of an Cassandra's brother another son of an Cassandra's brother another son of an tippet or is Alexander's cupbearer the tippet or is Alexander's cupbearer the tippet or is Alexander's cupbearer the one who you know just to make sure that one who you know just to make sure that one who you know just to make sure that this cup does not get out of my hands this cup does not get out of my hands this cup does not get out of my hands and nobody spikes it with anything that and nobody spikes it with anything that and nobody spikes it with anything that guy is Antipodes other son now the only guy is Antipodes other son now the only guy is Antipodes other son now the only time you care about the ancestry of a time you care about the ancestry of a time you care about the ancestry of a king's cup Bearer it's a little like an king's cup Bearer it's a little like an king's cup Bearer it's a little like an offensive lineman in football you only offensive lineman in football you only offensive lineman in football you only care about their name apparently when care about their name apparently when care about their name apparently when something goes wrong well the only time something goes wrong well the only time something goes wrong well the only time the poor cup bearer gets mentioned is the poor cup bearer gets mentioned is the poor cup bearer gets mentioned is when something goes wrong or depending when something goes wrong or depending when something goes wrong or depending on you know what the cup bearer is on you know what the cup bearer is on you know what the cup bearer is involved with and who they're involved involved with and who they're involved involved with and who they're involved with when something goes right on June with when something goes right on June with when something goes right on June 10th June 11th 323 BCE a 32 year old 10th June 11th 323 BCE a 32 year old 10th June 11th 323 BCE a 32 year old Alexander the Great Alexander the Great Alexander the Great dies and no one to this day can say dies and no one to this day can say dies and no one to this day can say definitively why theories abound in all definitively why theories abound in all definitively why theories abound in all directions from the natural to the directions from the natural to the directions from the natural to the unnatural from the common sense and unnatural from the common sense and unnatural from the common sense and obvious to the wild guy had a lot of obvious to the wild guy had a lot of obvious to the wild guy had a lot of reasons he might have died though and reasons he might have died though and reasons he might have died though and disease is an obvious one and medical disease is an obvious one and medical disease is an obvious one and medical professionals have been looking and professionals have been looking and professionals have been looking and examining the the evidence from hundreds

examining the the evidence from hundreds examining the the evidence from hundreds of years later that writers have kept of years later that writers have kept of years later that writers have kept about this kind of stuff and they will about this kind of stuff and they will about this kind of stuff and they will proclaim definitively it was just proclaim definitively it was just proclaim definitively it was just disease or not disease and I've heard disease or not disease and I've heard disease or not disease and I've heard everything typhus cholera malaria West everything typhus cholera malaria West everything typhus cholera malaria West Nile virus all of it then there's the Nile virus all of it then there's the Nile virus all of it then there's the sort of common sense ones I mean you can sort of common sense ones I mean you can sort of common sense ones I mean you can oh this is a guy with some major war oh this is a guy with some major war oh this is a guy with some major war wounds that have probably began to take wounds that have probably began to take wounds that have probably began to take its toll the the drinking is long-term its toll the the drinking is long-term its toll the the drinking is long-term and chronic and and still at very high and chronic and and still at very high and chronic and and still at very high levels I mean that will take a toll it levels I mean that will take a toll it levels I mean that will take a toll it mixing it all together it could be an mixing it all together it could be an mixing it all together it could be an accumulation of things weakened his accumulation of things weakened his accumulation of things weakened his immune system and the West Nile virus immune system and the West Nile virus immune system and the West Nile virus gets him gets him gets him revenge of the Persian Empire through revenge of the Persian Empire through revenge of the Persian Empire through the mosquito but there has always been a the mosquito but there has always been a the mosquito but there has always been a tradition modern and ancient included by tradition modern and ancient included by tradition modern and ancient included by most of the sources that Alexander was most of the sources that Alexander was most of the sources that Alexander was assassinated poisoned that Cassander assassinated poisoned that Cassander assassinated poisoned that Cassander brought the poison that the cupbearer brought the poison that the cupbearer brought the poison that the cupbearer son of antipodean at Alexander that the son of antipodean at Alexander that the son of antipodean at Alexander that the poison might have been mixed by poison might have been mixed by poison might have been mixed by Aristotle himself appalled by Aristotle himself appalled by Aristotle himself appalled by Alexander's descent into tyrannical Alexander's descent into tyrannical Alexander's descent into tyrannical madness and that maybe Cassandra's job madness and that maybe Cassandra's job madness and that maybe Cassandra's job wasn't to go there and plead for his wasn't to go there and plead for his wasn't to go there and plead for his dad's job in life but to assess dad's job in life but to assess dad's job in life but to assess Alexander's sanity and willingness to be Alexander's sanity and willingness to be Alexander's sanity and willingness to be reasonable because remember antipodean reasonable because remember antipodean reasonable because remember antipodean those people are all back in Greece those people are all back in Greece those people are all back in Greece they're getting letters and hearing they're getting letters and hearing they're getting letters and hearing stories but maybe you send your son say stories but maybe you send your son say stories but maybe you send your son say get a look for yourself and if he's not get a look for yourself and if he's not get a look for yourself and if he's not reasonable take him out

reasonable take him out reasonable take him out Olympius certainly thinks antipodal and Olympius certainly thinks antipodal and Olympius certainly thinks antipodal and company did it and she will eventually company did it and she will eventually company did it and she will eventually proclaim this publicly and you have to proclaim this publicly and you have to proclaim this publicly and you have to be careful because the propaganda from be careful because the propaganda from be careful because the propaganda from this period following Alexander's death this period following Alexander's death this period following Alexander's death is heavy duty and it comes from all is heavy duty and it comes from all is heavy duty and it comes from all sides so saying he killed Alexander sides so saying he killed Alexander sides so saying he killed Alexander would be a huge propaganda tool but you would be a huge propaganda tool but you would be a huge propaganda tool but you can tell by the way it helps take can tell by the way it helps take can tell by the way it helps take something you know there was always a something you know there was always a something you know there was always a lot of gasoline soaked wood in the lot of gasoline soaked wood in the lot of gasoline soaked wood in the Olympia Santa Peter relationship this is Olympia Santa Peter relationship this is Olympia Santa Peter relationship this is when it turns into a vendetta a real when it turns into a vendetta a real when it turns into a vendetta a real clan blood feud between the official clan blood feud between the official clan blood feud between the official name for there are the and tippet Reds name for there are the and tippet Reds name for there are the and tippet Reds which are the family of antipodal but which are the family of antipodal but which are the family of antipodal but think about it like a you know the think about it like a you know the think about it like a you know the Gambino's the bonanno's the and tippet Gambino's the bonanno's the and tippet Gambino's the bonanno's the and tippet reds and Olympius is clan which includes reds and Olympius is clan which includes reds and Olympius is clan which includes two distinct ones really her clan back two distinct ones really her clan back two distinct ones really her clan back home remember home remember home remember she's maybe become the regent of her she's maybe become the regent of her she's maybe become the regent of her homeland during this time period because homeland during this time period because homeland during this time period because her poor brother who married her poor brother who married her poor brother who married Cleopatra Alexander's sister gets Cleopatra Alexander's sister gets Cleopatra Alexander's sister gets himself killed in a war in Italy and himself killed in a war in Italy and himself killed in a war in Italy and apparently the kids are too young so apparently the kids are too young so apparently the kids are too young so Cleopatra or Olympius or both or maybe Cleopatra or Olympius or both or maybe Cleopatra or Olympius or both or maybe running the show back in the old Pyrus running the show back in the old Pyrus running the show back in the old Pyrus malossi in homeland and now with pretty malossi in homeland and now with pretty malossi in homeland and now with pretty much no male family members around to much no male family members around to much no male family members around to succeed she's kind of the front and succeed she's kind of the front and succeed she's kind of the front and center face of the royal family back in center face of the royal family back in center face of the royal family back in makedonia or what was the royal family

makedonia or what was the royal family makedonia or what was the royal family and this is where you just get the and this is where you just get the and this is where you just get the feeling that all the people around feeling that all the people around feeling that all the people around Alexander are feeling really bad that he Alexander are feeling really bad that he Alexander are feeling really bad that he didn't take that good advice marry one didn't take that good advice marry one didn't take that good advice marry one woman or what the heck you know take a woman or what the heck you know take a woman or what the heck you know take a page out of his dad's playbook and marry page out of his dad's playbook and marry page out of his dad's playbook and marry to make sure one of them's a to make sure one of them's a to make sure one of them's a full-blooded makedonia n-- get a few full-blooded makedonia n-- get a few full-blooded makedonia n-- get a few kids going before you leave for your kids going before you leave for your kids going before you leave for your expedition in asia by the time you die expedition in asia by the time you die expedition in asia by the time you die here in 323 BCE at 32 it's 32 right um here in 323 BCE at 32 it's 32 right um here in 323 BCE at 32 it's 32 right um you'd have a couple of kids back in you'd have a couple of kids back in you'd have a couple of kids back in makedonia if you get lucky and err maybe makedonia if you get lucky and err maybe makedonia if you get lucky and err maybe 12 years old maybe 13 years old by this 12 years old maybe 13 years old by this 12 years old maybe 13 years old by this time I didn't do the math now we all time I didn't do the math now we all time I didn't do the math now we all know how the makedonia history goes the know how the makedonia history goes the know how the makedonia history goes the likelihood of a child you know having likelihood of a child you know having likelihood of a child you know having the throne kept long enough for them to the throne kept long enough for them to the throne kept long enough for them to succeed it is a long shot in makedonia succeed it is a long shot in makedonia succeed it is a long shot in makedonia but the older you are the better the but the older you are the better the but the older you are the better the chance you'll make it and let's be chance you'll make it and let's be chance you'll make it and let's be honest any king of Alexander is gonna honest any king of Alexander is gonna honest any king of Alexander is gonna have a bloodline that's incomparable have a bloodline that's incomparable have a bloodline that's incomparable right so maybe that's a get out of jail right so maybe that's a get out of jail right so maybe that's a get out of jail free card from typical makedonia history free card from typical makedonia history free card from typical makedonia history you're the son of Alexander you're the you're the son of Alexander you're the you're the son of Alexander you're the grandson of Philip the second and let's grandson of Philip the second and let's grandson of Philip the second and let's be honest you know who will be there be honest you know who will be there be honest you know who will be there guarding you until she dies of old age guarding you until she dies of old age guarding you until she dies of old age or something else Olympius because the or something else Olympius because the or something else Olympius because the interest with Alexander's heir will line interest with Alexander's heir will line interest with Alexander's heir will line up with his mother the same way that up with his mother the same way that up with his mother the same way that Alexander's interested when this will be Alexander's interested when this will be Alexander's interested when this will be the role she'll play for the rest of her the role she'll play for the rest of her the role she'll play for the rest of her life life life the guardian of the heir but if the guardian of the heir but if the guardian of the heir but if Alexander didn't have any heirs back in Alexander didn't have any heirs back in Alexander didn't have any heirs back in makedonia before he left for Asia makedonia before he left for Asia makedonia before he left for Asia whatever am I talking about well there's whatever am I talking about well there's whatever am I talking about well there's not much there is a non-official wife so

not much there is a non-official wife so not much there is a non-official wife so mistress she's often called in the mistress she's often called in the mistress she's often called in the child's often called the illegitimate child's often called the illegitimate child's often called the illegitimate son of Alexander his name is Heracles son of Alexander his name is Heracles son of Alexander his name is Heracles he's three he's three he's three four years old by this time and he's off four years old by this time and he's off four years old by this time and he's off somewhere in like Bactria somewhere in like Bactria somewhere in like Bactria which is a month with modern Afghanistan which is a month with modern Afghanistan which is a month with modern Afghanistan or a real real real upper part of Persia or a real real real upper part of Persia or a real real real upper part of Persia he's a long way away and his mother's a he's a long way away and his mother's a he's a long way away and his mother's a barbarian for goodness sake or at least barbarian for goodness sake or at least barbarian for goodness sake or at least the makedonia pnes would think so the makedonia pnes would think so the makedonia pnes would think so or at least half barbarian in anyway or at least half barbarian in anyway or at least half barbarian in anyway this kid does not get anywhere near the this kid does not get anywhere near the this kid does not get anywhere near the attention you would think he would get attention you would think he would get attention you would think he would get until power brokers feel like they can until power brokers feel like they can until power brokers feel like they can use him and then he all of a sudden I use him and then he all of a sudden I use him and then he all of a sudden I guess and some sources appears on the guess and some sources appears on the guess and some sources appears on the scene I've read some historians who scene I've read some historians who scene I've read some historians who questioned whether he really existed at questioned whether he really existed at questioned whether he really existed at all but there is something real that all but there is something real that all but there is something real that everyone can point to Alexander's got an everyone can point to Alexander's got an everyone can point to Alexander's got an official wife in Persia and she's official wife in Persia and she's official wife in Persia and she's pregnant when Alexander dies she pregnant when Alexander dies she pregnant when Alexander dies she apparently quickly kills Alexander's apparently quickly kills Alexander's apparently quickly kills Alexander's other wives keeping the bloodline pure other wives keeping the bloodline pure other wives keeping the bloodline pure the makedonia pnes and persians both are the makedonia pnes and persians both are the makedonia pnes and persians both are into that some times but if you're into that some times but if you're into that some times but if you're worried about a 13 or 14 or 12 year old worried about a 13 or 14 or 12 year old worried about a 13 or 14 or 12 year old air back in makedonia the one he didn't air back in makedonia the one he didn't air back in makedonia the one he didn't have surviving long enough to get to the have surviving long enough to get to the have surviving long enough to get to the throne what chance does a kid who isn't throne what chance does a kid who isn't throne what chance does a kid who isn't even born yet have what's more it could even born yet have what's more it could even born yet have what's more it could be a female might not make it to term be a female might not make it to term be a female might not make it to term this is the ancient world after all the this is the ancient world after all the this is the ancient world after all the bottom line though is that there's no bottom line though is that there's no bottom line though is that there's no logical easy answer to what do we do now logical easy answer to what do we do now logical easy answer to what do we do now once Alexander dies and if you think once Alexander dies and if you think once Alexander dies and if you think about it it's it's really kind of a about it it's it's really kind of a about it it's it's really kind of a crazy moment in history these are always crazy moment in history these are always crazy moment in history these are always my favorite things and naturally there's my favorite things and naturally there's my favorite things and naturally there's never enough information did it really never enough information did it really never enough information did it really go down the way most of the sources kind

go down the way most of the sources kind go down the way most of the sources kind of say it went down which is that when of say it went down which is that when of say it went down which is that when Alexander dies there is no plan as we Alexander dies there is no plan as we Alexander dies there is no plan as we said he's supposed to the story says said he's supposed to the story says said he's supposed to the story says that when he's asked on his deathbed to that when he's asked on his deathbed to that when he's asked on his deathbed to whom he leaves the Empire you know if whom he leaves the Empire you know if whom he leaves the Empire you know if you're basically an emperor Alexander you're basically an emperor Alexander you're basically an emperor Alexander who's the next Emperor and he says to who's the next Emperor and he says to who's the next Emperor and he says to the strong guests very macho makedonia the strong guests very macho makedonia the strong guests very macho makedonia and Homeric answer may be something you and Homeric answer may be something you and Homeric answer may be something you could justify in a darwinian may the could justify in a darwinian may the could justify in a darwinian may the best man win kind of competition for the best man win kind of competition for the best man win kind of competition for the throne but disastrous for his people throne but disastrous for his people throne but disastrous for his people when you're talking about this as a when you're talking about this as a when you're talking about this as a successor to the entire policy right why successor to the entire policy right why successor to the entire policy right why don't you fight it out and we'll see don't you fight it out and we'll see don't you fight it out and we'll see that's gonna lead to more deaths from that's gonna lead to more deaths from that's gonna lead to more deaths from academia and soldiers than Philip and academia and soldiers than Philip and academia and soldiers than Philip and Alexander's Wars put together the Alexander's Wars put together the Alexander's Wars put together the makedonia infantry didn't suffer as makedonia infantry didn't suffer as makedonia infantry didn't suffer as terribly as you might think because they terribly as you might think because they terribly as you might think because they were so victorious and so dominant were so victorious and so dominant were so victorious and so dominant I had a professor once that said if you I had a professor once that said if you I had a professor once that said if you want to know the way to defeat the best want to know the way to defeat the best want to know the way to defeat the best army in any age in history split it up army in any age in history split it up army in any age in history split it up and make it fight itself you saw that in and make it fight itself you saw that in and make it fight itself you saw that in Roman history by the way the nastiest Roman history by the way the nastiest Roman history by the way the nastiest most dangerous opponents the Legionaries most dangerous opponents the Legionaries most dangerous opponents the Legionaries ever faced or other legionaries in civil ever faced or other legionaries in civil ever faced or other legionaries in civil wars that's what's gonna happen in the wars that's what's gonna happen in the wars that's what's gonna happen in the next well this is crazy to even say over next well this is crazy to even say over next well this is crazy to even say over the next 44 or 45 years that's how long the next 44 or 45 years that's how long the next 44 or 45 years that's how long it will take for the two the strongest it will take for the two the strongest it will take for the two the strongest thing to be settled they're known as the thing to be settled they're known as the thing to be settled they're known as the Wars of the Alexandrian successors are Wars of the Alexandrian successors are Wars of the Alexandrian successors are the Wars of the successors of the Wars the Wars of the successors of the Wars the Wars of the successors of the Wars of the dyadic I've that's the Greek word of the dyadic I've that's the Greek word of the dyadic I've that's the Greek word for successors the rest of Olympia says

for successors the rest of Olympia says for successors the rest of Olympia says life by the way will be spent as a life by the way will be spent as a life by the way will be spent as a player in this geopolitical struggle player in this geopolitical struggle player in this geopolitical struggle that will happen in phases it's not like that will happen in phases it's not like that will happen in phases it's not like 44 or 45 years of continual War II 44 or 45 years of continual War II 44 or 45 years of continual War II there'll be multiple phases that happen there'll be multiple phases that happen there'll be multiple phases that happen and there are so many players it is to and there are so many players it is to and there are so many players it is to me anyway easily the most complicated me anyway easily the most complicated me anyway easily the most complicated struggle in the ancient world it is very struggle in the ancient world it is very struggle in the ancient world it is very tough to keep track of as they say in tough to keep track of as they say in tough to keep track of as they say in sports the players without a scorecard a sports the players without a scorecard a sports the players without a scorecard a dizzying array of personalities a very dizzying array of personalities a very dizzying array of personalities a very weird crabs in a bucket type dynamic weird crabs in a bucket type dynamic weird crabs in a bucket type dynamic where the most august's scary and where the most august's scary and where the most august's scary and impressive people are eliminated early impressive people are eliminated early impressive people are eliminated early because everyone who's less competent because everyone who's less competent because everyone who's less competent and less impressive bands together to and less impressive bands together to and less impressive bands together to take him down Olympius will be one of take him down Olympius will be one of take him down Olympius will be one of those people by the way she is a very those people by the way she is a very those people by the way she is a very scary player in the early phases of this scary player in the early phases of this scary player in the early phases of this so she's gotten rid of as quickly as so she's gotten rid of as quickly as so she's gotten rid of as quickly as anybody can do it but she's very hard to anybody can do it but she's very hard to anybody can do it but she's very hard to deal with because she represents ghosts deal with because she represents ghosts deal with because she represents ghosts impressive ghosts the power of Olympius impressive ghosts the power of Olympius impressive ghosts the power of Olympius which stemmed from her relationship to which stemmed from her relationship to which stemmed from her relationship to Philip for a while and then from her Philip for a while and then from her Philip for a while and then from her relationship to Alexander after that relationship to Alexander after that relationship to Alexander after that will now stem from the power that those will now stem from the power that those will now stem from the power that those former figures still possess it will it former figures still possess it will it former figures still possess it will it will flow through her I mean I think will flow through her I mean I think will flow through her I mean I think about her like this priestess but now about her like this priestess but now about her like this priestess but now the authority and gravitas and the authority and gravitas and the authority and gravitas and reputation of Philip and Alexander come reputation of Philip and Alexander come reputation of Philip and Alexander come mind are emanating through her and it

mind are emanating through her and it mind are emanating through her and it affects the infantry of Alexander's army affects the infantry of Alexander's army affects the infantry of Alexander's army let me explain let me explain let me explain when Alexander dies the story is that when Alexander dies the story is that when Alexander dies the story is that you know everybody kind of looks at each you know everybody kind of looks at each you know everybody kind of looks at each other this is a cult of personality other this is a cult of personality other this is a cult of personality empire right it's really concentrated empire right it's really concentrated empire right it's really concentrated into one person he makes all the into one person he makes all the into one person he makes all the decisions he's I mean every he's the decisions he's I mean every he's the decisions he's I mean every he's the heart the soul on the brain of this heart the soul on the brain of this heart the soul on the brain of this place and when he goes away a bunch of place and when he goes away a bunch of place and when he goes away a bunch of the makedonia n-- nobility go into a the makedonia n-- nobility go into a the makedonia n-- nobility go into a room and start debating what we know room and start debating what we know room and start debating what we know here's what we're gonna do now here's what we're gonna do now here's what we're gonna do now the best way to think about this maybe the best way to think about this maybe the best way to think about this maybe is that this is as close as you can come is that this is as close as you can come is that this is as close as you can come there in Babylon where Alexander dies by there in Babylon where Alexander dies by there in Babylon where Alexander dies by the way this is as close as you can come the way this is as close as you can come the way this is as close as you can come to the old makedonia smoke-filled room to the old makedonia smoke-filled room to the old makedonia smoke-filled room where the aristocrats and the heads of where the aristocrats and the heads of where the aristocrats and the heads of the families decide who it's going to be the families decide who it's going to be the families decide who it's going to be have to be an origin for the last long have to be an origin for the last long have to be an origin for the last long period of time but you know we'll figure period of time but you know we'll figure period of time but you know we'll figure this out it's Elizabeth Carney points this out it's Elizabeth Carney points this out it's Elizabeth Carney points out though they've had two kings and out though they've had two kings and out though they've had two kings and haven't had to do this for a long time haven't had to do this for a long time haven't had to do this for a long time in the last time they did something like in the last time they did something like in the last time they did something like this makedonia was a not important at this makedonia was a not important at this makedonia was a not important at all kingdom north of Greece a bunch of all kingdom north of Greece a bunch of all kingdom north of Greece a bunch of barbarians according to the Greeks and barbarians according to the Greeks and barbarians according to the Greeks and the Greeks could actually from the the Greeks could actually from the the Greeks could actually from the southern states could actually interfere southern states could actually interfere southern states could actually interfere and who got to be the makedonia King and and who got to be the makedonia King and and who got to be the makedonia King and now she points out they're having one of now she points out they're having one of now she points out they're having one of these meetings to determine half the these meetings to determine half the these meetings to determine half the known world's fate it's a little bit known world's fate it's a little bit known world's fate it's a little bit different isn't it what's more they're different isn't it what's more they're different isn't it what's more they're operating in a really weird one operating in a really weird one operating in a really weird one historian called it a potentially historian called it a potentially historian called it a potentially terrifying period of time here after terrifying period of time here after terrifying period of time here after Alexander's death there's a problem Alexander's death there's a problem Alexander's death there's a problem sometimes when you read history and in sometimes when you read history and in sometimes when you read history and in the black words on the white page failed

the black words on the white page failed the black words on the white page failed to convey the parts of history sometimes to convey the parts of history sometimes to convey the parts of history sometimes that are the most human right the reason that are the most human right the reason that are the most human right the reason it can't be a science the emotional it can't be a science the emotional it can't be a science the emotional stuff and there's two kinds of emotional stuff and there's two kinds of emotional stuff and there's two kinds of emotional stuff there's there's you're having an stuff there's there's you're having an stuff there's there's you're having an emotional moment yourself and that's emotional moment yourself and that's emotional moment yourself and that's very different than Society is having an very different than Society is having an very different than Society is having an emotional moment all at the same time emotional moment all at the same time emotional moment all at the same time and I try to think of emotional and I try to think of emotional and I try to think of emotional analogies which is both a a very cool analogies which is both a a very cool analogies which is both a a very cool and stupid concept at the same time and stupid concept at the same time and stupid concept at the same time because you know there's really no because you know there's really no because you know there's really no analogies when you think about what analogies when you think about what analogies when you think about what might happen but you try to say okay if might happen but you try to say okay if might happen but you try to say okay if people in this time period are operating people in this time period are operating people in this time period are operating in a stunned sort of state of mind I try in a stunned sort of state of mind I try in a stunned sort of state of mind I try to think of like after 9/11 when you to think of like after 9/11 when you to think of like after 9/11 when you walked around and and everybody had this walked around and and everybody had this walked around and and everybody had this there's no good English word for there's no good English word for there's no good English word for I was like 20 adjectives to try to I was like 20 adjectives to try to I was like 20 adjectives to try to explain it where I'm sure one really explain it where I'm sure one really explain it where I'm sure one really good long German word would hit it right good long German word would hit it right good long German word would hit it right on the head like they always do stunned surprised disbelief a real sense stunned surprised disbelief a real sense of disbelief then there's like a brain of disbelief then there's like a brain of disbelief then there's like a brain fog if it's anything like the 9/11 thing fog if it's anything like the 9/11 thing fog if it's anything like the 9/11 thing there's a real sense of trepidation there's a real sense of trepidation there's a real sense of trepidation about what happens now and it's not about what happens now and it's not about what happens now and it's not hysteria it's not mania but it's not hysteria it's not mania but it's not hysteria it's not mania but it's not stable it's a time where you could see stable it's a time where you could see stable it's a time where you could see the emotional state of mind if everybody the emotional state of mind if everybody the emotional state of mind if everybody is on edge and as every major historian is on edge and as every major historian is on edge and as every major historian points out from the sources we have points out from the sources we have points out from the sources we have which are not great you get this feeling which are not great you get this feeling which are not great you get this feeling like civil war could happen at any like civil war could happen at any like civil war could happen at any moment like you have gasoline soaked moment like you have gasoline soaked moment like you have gasoline soaked wood here and it wouldn't take much and wood here and it wouldn't take much and wood here and it wouldn't take much and the reason why is because the elites in the reason why is because the elites in the reason why is because the elites in the makedonia army the cavalry are the the makedonia army the cavalry are the the makedonia army the cavalry are the ones in the back smokey filled room ones in the back smokey filled room ones in the back smokey filled room thinking they're going to figure this thinking they're going to figure this thinking they're going to figure this out the infantry of the makedonia naar

out the infantry of the makedonia naar out the infantry of the makedonia naar me are the salt of the earth types me are the salt of the earth types me are the salt of the earth types they're not going to be so much salt of they're not going to be so much salt of they're not going to be so much salt of the earth types later when they get rich the earth types later when they get rich the earth types later when they get rich and they turn mercenary but during this and they turn mercenary but during this and they turn mercenary but during this time period they're still like the time period they're still like the time period they're still like the farmer people of makedonia you know the farmer people of makedonia you know the farmer people of makedonia you know the people who have a real loyalty to the people who have a real loyalty to the people who have a real loyalty to the royal house who who have a if there's a royal house who who have a if there's a royal house who who have a if there's a more mythical sort of feel to what more mythical sort of feel to what more mythical sort of feel to what patriotism is the wrong word in the era patriotism is the wrong word in the era patriotism is the wrong word in the era before nationalism arose but it's a before nationalism arose but it's a before nationalism arose but it's a little like patriotism their their little like patriotism their their little like patriotism their their allegiance is to the family of Alexander allegiance is to the family of Alexander allegiance is to the family of Alexander I mean think about it if you have had I mean think about it if you have had I mean think about it if you have had two virtual demigod kings in a row from two virtual demigod kings in a row from two virtual demigod kings in a row from that line I mean why would you want to that line I mean why would you want to that line I mean why would you want to change horses in midstream Alexander and change horses in midstream Alexander and change horses in midstream Alexander and Philip and now you want to do something Philip and now you want to do something Philip and now you want to do something else and by the way I didn't mention the else and by the way I didn't mention the else and by the way I didn't mention the something else the agreement eventually something else the agreement eventually something else the agreement eventually worked out with all these crabs in a worked out with all these crabs in a worked out with all these crabs in a bucket in this back room trying to bucket in this back room trying to bucket in this back room trying to broker some deal is that they're gonna broker some deal is that they're gonna broker some deal is that they're gonna wait to see about the child that Roxane wait to see about the child that Roxane wait to see about the child that Roxane Alexander's wife is pregnant with Alexander's wife is pregnant with Alexander's wife is pregnant with because if it's a boy we will hold the because if it's a boy we will hold the because if it's a boy we will hold the kingship for that they'll have a Regency kingship for that they'll have a Regency kingship for that they'll have a Regency right and we told you already right and we told you already right and we told you already 18 years these guys are gonna hold this 18 years these guys are gonna hold this 18 years these guys are gonna hold this for this keep the throne warm for for this keep the throne warm for for this keep the throne warm for eighteen years okay well that's a eighteen years okay well that's a eighteen years okay well that's a certain kind of decision right there certain kind of decision right there certain kind of decision right there isn't it and the infantry who are made isn't it and the infantry who are made isn't it and the infantry who are made up like we said of these people who are up like we said of these people who are up like we said of these people who are loyal to the royal house and they pretty loyal to the royal house and they pretty loyal to the royal house and they pretty much have their own idea who the throne much have their own idea who the throne much have their own idea who the throne should go to and they present him should go to and they present him should go to and they present him to the cavalry apparently in one of to the cavalry apparently in one of to the cavalry apparently in one of these making them an offer they can't these making them an offer they can't these making them an offer they can't refuse kind of deals and he's dressed refuse kind of deals and he's dressed refuse kind of deals and he's dressed this this person is dressed in

this this person is dressed in this this person is dressed in Alexander's clothes supposedly one Alexander's clothes supposedly one Alexander's clothes supposedly one source you know hasn't been the armor source you know hasn't been the armor source you know hasn't been the armor his name just added by this group of his name just added by this group of his name just added by this group of infantry by the way is Philip so if you infantry by the way is Philip so if you infantry by the way is Philip so if you dressed at Alexander's clothes your name dressed at Alexander's clothes your name dressed at Alexander's clothes your name is Philip well they're trying to tell is Philip well they're trying to tell is Philip well they're trying to tell you something you something you something it's Philip era dais though it's it's Philip era dais though it's it's Philip era dais though it's Alexander's brother who has that sort of Alexander's brother who has that sort of Alexander's brother who has that sort of indeterminable mental condition as one indeterminable mental condition as one indeterminable mental condition as one historian said the only reason that this historian said the only reason that this historian said the only reason that this is the only person you have to turn to is the only person you have to turn to is the only person you have to turn to is cuz anybody that Alexander was afraid is cuz anybody that Alexander was afraid is cuz anybody that Alexander was afraid of his gone by now so he wasn't afraid of his gone by now so he wasn't afraid of his gone by now so he wasn't afraid of this guy why cuz he's no threat of this guy why cuz he's no threat of this guy why cuz he's no threat although I read someone else that said although I read someone else that said although I read someone else that said the fact that the infantry knew him and the fact that the infantry knew him and the fact that the infantry knew him and he was in Babylon with them he was sort he was in Babylon with them he was sort he was in Babylon with them he was sort of a mascot apparently as the way it's of a mascot apparently as the way it's of a mascot apparently as the way it's portrayed you know the team mascot but portrayed you know the team mascot but portrayed you know the team mascot but the fact that the infantry knew him and the fact that the infantry knew him and the fact that the infantry knew him and wanted him for this role may have been wanted him for this role may have been wanted him for this role may have been an indication that that's not really an indication that that's not really an indication that that's not really true in history so who knows the two true in history so who knows the two true in history so who knows the two sides the infantry the salt of the earth sides the infantry the salt of the earth sides the infantry the salt of the earth types start clashing with the cavalry types start clashing with the cavalry types start clashing with the cavalry violence almost breaks out or does and violence almost breaks out or does and violence almost breaks out or does and the cavalry leaves Babylon the infantry the cavalry leaves Babylon the infantry the cavalry leaves Babylon the infantry stays in Babylon and then the cavalry stays in Babylon and then the cavalry stays in Babylon and then the cavalry puts Babylon under siege you have an puts Babylon under siege you have an puts Babylon under siege you have an explosive moment here and then a deal is explosive moment here and then a deal is explosive moment here and then a deal is brokered the deal is that there will be brokered the deal is that there will be brokered the deal is that there will be no compromises on either side that both no compromises on either side that both no compromises on either side that both sides get what they want so there's sides get what they want so there's sides get what they want so there's going to be two kings the unborn child going to be two kings the unborn child going to be two kings the unborn child of Roxanne who does turn out to be a boy of Roxanne who does turn out to be a boy of Roxanne who does turn out to be a boy and Alexander the Great is Alexander the and Alexander the Great is Alexander the and Alexander the Great is Alexander the third so they'll name this one Alexander

third so they'll name this one Alexander third so they'll name this one Alexander the fourth and Alexander's half-brother the fourth and Alexander's half-brother the fourth and Alexander's half-brother son of Philip and APHIS alien dancing son of Philip and APHIS alien dancing son of Philip and APHIS alien dancing girl I believe is going to be the other girl I believe is going to be the other girl I believe is going to be the other king and neither one of them can rule king and neither one of them can rule king and neither one of them can rule without a region so a regent is without a region so a regent is without a region so a regent is appointed and away we go appointed and away we go appointed and away we go Elizabeth Carney tries to get into the Elizabeth Carney tries to get into the Elizabeth Carney tries to get into the head a little bit of Olympius on an head a little bit of Olympius on an head a little bit of Olympius on an emotional level when she finds out her emotional level when she finds out her emotional level when she finds out her son is dead son is dead son is dead she has no body she has nothing and you she has no body she has nothing and you she has no body she has nothing and you know at most mothers would be very know at most mothers would be very know at most mothers would be very bereaved in the situation her situations bereaved in the situation her situations bereaved in the situation her situations worse worse worse because Alexander was her guarantee of because Alexander was her guarantee of because Alexander was her guarantee of safety not just for her but for her safety not just for her but for her safety not just for her but for her immediate loved ones all together the immediate loved ones all together the immediate loved ones all together the reason her enemy antipodal couldn't reason her enemy antipodal couldn't reason her enemy antipodal couldn't touch her when Alexander was alive he's touch her when Alexander was alive he's touch her when Alexander was alive he's still in makedonia she's nearby if she's still in makedonia she's nearby if she's still in makedonia she's nearby if she's not in makedonia i think it that she not in makedonia i think it that she not in makedonia i think it that she keeps going back and forth between keeps going back and forth between keeps going back and forth between makedonia and her homeland in malaysia makedonia and her homeland in malaysia makedonia and her homeland in malaysia but all of a sudden I mean antipodal can but all of a sudden I mean antipodal can but all of a sudden I mean antipodal can do whatever he wants to her except for do whatever he wants to her except for do whatever he wants to her except for one thing he's got to be careful because one thing he's got to be careful because one thing he's got to be careful because all throughout the rest of her life all throughout the rest of her life all throughout the rest of her life the salt of the earth makedonia n-- the salt of the earth makedonia n-- the salt of the earth makedonia n-- soldiers not so much the cavalry but but soldiers not so much the cavalry but but soldiers not so much the cavalry but but the people on the ground the everyday the people on the ground the everyday the people on the ground the everyday joes in the ranks they're gonna show an joes in the ranks they're gonna show an joes in the ranks they're gonna show an immense amount of loyalty to her and the immense amount of loyalty to her and the immense amount of loyalty to her and the loyalty of the troops during this time loyalty of the troops during this time loyalty of the troops during this time period in this next successor war is key period in this next successor war is key period in this next successor war is key because at times they will turn on their

because at times they will turn on their because at times they will turn on their commanders in this in the upcoming wars commanders in this in the upcoming wars commanders in this in the upcoming wars there'll be incidents of them deciding there'll be incidents of them deciding there'll be incidents of them deciding to I mean in one famous case the baggage to I mean in one famous case the baggage to I mean in one famous case the baggage of the infantry you know you know in a of the infantry you know you know in a of the infantry you know you know in a conflict is captured and so to get their conflict is captured and so to get their conflict is captured and so to get their baggage back to hand the general over baggage back to hand the general over baggage back to hand the general over it's going to be a very interesting time it's going to be a very interesting time it's going to be a very interesting time period for all of these different period for all of these different period for all of these different generals who essentially have pieces of generals who essentially have pieces of generals who essentially have pieces of the vert MOC that they're that they're the vert MOC that they're that they're the vert MOC that they're that they're fighting with against other pieces of fighting with against other pieces of fighting with against other pieces of the vert MOC but sometimes the pieces in the vert MOC but sometimes the pieces in the vert MOC but sometimes the pieces in the vert macht have a mind of their own the vert macht have a mind of their own the vert macht have a mind of their own and Olympius is one of those people that and Olympius is one of those people that and Olympius is one of those people that will prove to be a dangerous person to will prove to be a dangerous person to will prove to be a dangerous person to do anything against because your own do anything against because your own do anything against because your own vert MOC troops might turn against you vert MOC troops might turn against you vert MOC troops might turn against you this is an interesting thing for the this is an interesting thing for the this is an interesting thing for the generals to try to have to deal with generals to try to have to deal with generals to try to have to deal with it's a dynamic in this crisis and it's a dynamic in this crisis and it's a dynamic in this crisis and interestingly enough it's not just interestingly enough it's not just interestingly enough it's not just Olympius the commands this sort of Olympius the commands this sort of Olympius the commands this sort of loyalty from the backbone of the loyalty from the backbone of the loyalty from the backbone of the makedonia gnar me and probably the makedonia gnar me and probably the makedonia gnar me and probably the farmers and the folks back home in farmers and the folks back home in farmers and the folks back home in makedonia it's not just her it's all the makedonia it's not just her it's all the makedonia it's not just her it's all the close family of philip ii and of course close family of philip ii and of course close family of philip ii and of course she's not the only close family of she's not the only close family of she's not the only close family of philip ii she's also not the only one philip ii she's also not the only one philip ii she's also not the only one able to channel power in the able to channel power in the able to channel power in the here-and-now here-and-now here-and-now through ghosts philip ii Olympia's his through ghosts philip ii Olympia's his through ghosts philip ii Olympia's his long dead husband now the great philip long dead husband now the great philip long dead husband now the great philip ii Alexander's dad you know he had seven ii Alexander's dad you know he had seven ii Alexander's dad you know he had seven wives right he didn't just have Olympius

wives right he didn't just have Olympius wives right he didn't just have Olympius and those wives produced offspring and those wives produced offspring and those wives produced offspring didn't they obviously they didn't have didn't they obviously they didn't have didn't they obviously they didn't have any of the male offspring survived to any of the male offspring survived to any of the male offspring survived to become competitors of Alexander because become competitors of Alexander because become competitors of Alexander because well that's what purges are for right well that's what purges are for right well that's what purges are for right out of the Alexander would have gotten out of the Alexander would have gotten out of the Alexander would have gotten those guys but the women are no threat those guys but the women are no threat those guys but the women are no threat to him so they usually didn't get to him so they usually didn't get to him so they usually didn't get touched touched touched which means when it comes to what those which means when it comes to what those which means when it comes to what those salt-of-the-earth backbone of the salt-of-the-earth backbone of the salt-of-the-earth backbone of the makedonia army and probably the makedonia army and probably the makedonia army and probably the makedonia invokes back home if they have makedonia invokes back home if they have makedonia invokes back home if they have a loyalty to the royal family at this a loyalty to the royal family at this a loyalty to the royal family at this point that mainly means women which point that mainly means women which point that mainly means women which provides a level of power boost that is provides a level of power boost that is provides a level of power boost that is unusual what's unusual about the next unusual what's unusual about the next unusual what's unusual about the next part of this story it to me it is the part of this story it to me it is the part of this story it to me it is the best part of this story because it's so best part of this story because it's so best part of this story because it's so rare it's rare to see women exerting rare it's rare to see women exerting rare it's rare to see women exerting themselves on the on the global themselves on the on the global themselves on the on the global geopolitical stage especially before geopolitical stage especially before geopolitical stage especially before modern times but they're out there modern times but they're out there modern times but they're out there there's incidents there's even incidents there's incidents there's even incidents there's incidents there's even incidents of multiple women doing it at the same of multiple women doing it at the same of multiple women doing it at the same time but they're rare I've never and you time but they're rare I've never and you time but they're rare I've never and you know I'm ignorant on so many subjects know I'm ignorant on so many subjects know I'm ignorant on so many subjects and I'm sure it happened in Chinese and I'm sure it happened in Chinese and I'm sure it happened in Chinese history because everything happened in history because everything happened in history because everything happened in Chinese history once upon a time but Chinese history once upon a time but Chinese history once upon a time but I've not encountered another era where I've not encountered another era where I've not encountered another era where you have so many powerful August women you have so many powerful August women you have so many powerful August women in the story operating on both sides by in the story operating on both sides by in the story operating on both sides by the way and often at odds with each the way and often at odds with each the way and often at odds with each other in it in a full-on geopolitical other in it in a full-on geopolitical other in it in a full-on geopolitical diplomatic power sense as now and you diplomatic power sense as now and you diplomatic power sense as now and you might be able to make a case that it's might be able to make a case that it's might be able to make a case that it's because of the way the conditions because of the way the conditions because of the way the conditions developed and one of the conditions is developed and one of the conditions is developed and one of the conditions is all these men that might have otherwise all these men that might have otherwise all these men that might have otherwise assumed this role are gone and if Philip assumed this role are gone and if Philip assumed this role are gone and if Philip the second and Alexander the Great's the second and Alexander the Great's the second and Alexander the Great's memory confers power on the people left memory confers power on the people left memory confers power on the people left over in the family and those people are

over in the family and those people are over in the family and those people are women well you see a unique opportunity women well you see a unique opportunity women well you see a unique opportunity for these women to figure out a tool to for these women to figure out a tool to for these women to figure out a tool to use that power after Alexander dies you use that power after Alexander dies you use that power after Alexander dies you have a mass rush of all these various have a mass rush of all these various have a mass rush of all these various makedonia makedonia makedonia royal clans marrying into each other for royal clans marrying into each other for royal clans marrying into each other for diplomatic purposes right covering their diplomatic purposes right covering their diplomatic purposes right covering their ass hedging their bets this is a it's a ass hedging their bets this is a it's a ass hedging their bets this is a it's a dangerous time right which of these dangerous time right which of these dangerous time right which of these successors might win what what might successors might win what what might successors might win what what might happen to us who are we said well what happen to us who are we said well what happen to us who are we said well what if you support the wrong guy for the if you support the wrong guy for the if you support the wrong guy for the boss the bosses and then afterwards the boss the bosses and then afterwards the boss the bosses and then afterwards the other guy they're going to remember that other guy they're going to remember that other guy they're going to remember that right Elizabeth Kearney called this right Elizabeth Kearney called this right Elizabeth Kearney called this period the brisk post Alexander elite period the brisk post Alexander elite period the brisk post Alexander elite makedonia in marriage market which I makedonia in marriage market which I makedonia in marriage market which I thought was interesting now the reason thought was interesting now the reason thought was interesting now the reason it concerns us though is there's a it concerns us though is there's a it concerns us though is there's a couple of these potential marriage couple of these potential marriage couple of these potential marriage partners from the royal clan who are partners from the royal clan who are partners from the royal clan who are game changers right they could end this game changers right they could end this game changers right they could end this story of who gets to succeed Alexander story of who gets to succeed Alexander story of who gets to succeed Alexander right now right there doesn't have to be right now right there doesn't have to be right now right there doesn't have to be the equivalent of an ancient world war the equivalent of an ancient world war the equivalent of an ancient world war for 44 or 45 years to settle it we could for 44 or 45 years to settle it we could for 44 or 45 years to settle it we could settle it right now you know in 322 or settle it right now you know in 322 or settle it right now you know in 322 or something year after Alexander dies something year after Alexander dies something year after Alexander dies we'll settle it right now all you got to we'll settle it right now all you got to we'll settle it right now all you got to do is have one of these crabs in a do is have one of these crabs in a do is have one of these crabs in a bucket one of these successor warlords bucket one of these successor warlords bucket one of these successor warlords has to just get the edge and it's all has to just get the edge and it's all has to just get the edge and it's all over and it's got to be a pretty good over and it's got to be a pretty good over and it's got to be a pretty good edge because the other crabs in the edge because the other crabs in the edge because the other crabs in the bucket will pull you down if you just bucket will pull you down if you just bucket will pull you down if you just get a slight bit more power than they get a slight bit more power than they get a slight bit more power than they have you've got to win the game you got have you've got to win the game you got have you've got to win the game you got to hit the jackpot if this is like a to hit the jackpot if this is like a to hit the jackpot if this is like a murderous version of The Bachelorette murderous version of The Bachelorette murderous version of The Bachelorette you've got to get the hand of the bride you've got to get the hand of the bride you've got to get the hand of the bride that can confer legitimacy on you who's

that can confer legitimacy on you who's that can confer legitimacy on you who's out there that could do that and think out there that could do that and think out there that could do that and think about how much power that gives the about how much power that gives the about how much power that gives the person who can do that well there are person who can do that well there are person who can do that well there are multiple potential people who could multiple potential people who could multiple potential people who could marry into one of these successors clans marry into one of these successors clans marry into one of these successors clans and get them closer to the royal house and get them closer to the royal house and get them closer to the royal house but there is almost a hierarchy right but there is almost a hierarchy right but there is almost a hierarchy right this person will get you this close to this person will get you this close to this person will get you this close to the royal house but this person will get the royal house but this person will get the royal house but this person will get you two steps close to the royal house you two steps close to the royal house you two steps close to the royal house you want to get the jackpot you gotta you want to get the jackpot you gotta you want to get the jackpot you gotta marry Alexander the Great's sister don't marry Alexander the Great's sister don't marry Alexander the Great's sister don't you he's only got one full blooded you he's only got one full blooded you he's only got one full blooded sibling Cleopatra the one who married sibling Cleopatra the one who married sibling Cleopatra the one who married her uncle who's gone off and died in her uncle who's gone off and died in her uncle who's gone off and died in Italy now leaving her a widow boom here Italy now leaving her a widow boom here Italy now leaving her a widow boom here she is available the Bachelorette and of she is available the Bachelorette and of she is available the Bachelorette and of course Olympius and her daughter course Olympius and her daughter course Olympius and her daughter Cleopatra work as a team here sort of so Cleopatra work as a team here sort of so Cleopatra work as a team here sort of so much the Olympius Cleopatra limited much the Olympius Cleopatra limited much the Olympius Cleopatra limited partnership here and they desperately partnership here and they desperately partnership here and they desperately need to utilize this power of of having need to utilize this power of of having need to utilize this power of of having the ability to confer upon you a spouse the ability to confer upon you a spouse the ability to confer upon you a spouse and then of course subsequent children and then of course subsequent children and then of course subsequent children whose father was Philip the second whose whose father was Philip the second whose whose father was Philip the second whose brother was Alexander the Great whose brother was Alexander the Great whose brother was Alexander the Great whose mother is Olympius I mean come on that mother is Olympius I mean come on that mother is Olympius I mean come on that is your game-changer right there you is your game-changer right there you is your game-changer right there you want to be the crab that crawls out of want to be the crab that crawls out of want to be the crab that crawls out of the bucket you marry Cleopatra and she the bucket you marry Cleopatra and she the bucket you marry Cleopatra and she knows it knows it knows it but this power also makes her dangerous but this power also makes her dangerous but this power also makes her dangerous to others I mean if you happen to be the to others I mean if you happen to be the to others I mean if you happen to be the successor warlord who gets her hand in

successor warlord who gets her hand in successor warlord who gets her hand in marriage well fantastic for you but what marriage well fantastic for you but what marriage well fantastic for you but what does that mean for all your competitors does that mean for all your competitors does that mean for all your competitors all the Warlord's who didn't get her all the Warlord's who didn't get her all the Warlord's who didn't get her hand in marriage so over her over her hand in marriage so over her over her hand in marriage so over her over her lifetime she's going to either court or lifetime she's going to either court or lifetime she's going to either court or be courted by many of the major players be courted by many of the major players be courted by many of the major players in this story all the bigwigs are gonna in this story all the bigwigs are gonna in this story all the bigwigs are gonna try to get her hand in marriage she's try to get her hand in marriage she's try to get her hand in marriage she's the obvious prize here but if you can't the obvious prize here but if you can't the obvious prize here but if you can't have her hand in marriage she's the have her hand in marriage she's the have her hand in marriage she's the obvious target to at least you have to obvious target to at least you have to obvious target to at least you have to block her because she's another one of block her because she's another one of block her because she's another one of those people that you can't just kill those people that you can't just kill those people that you can't just kill all right sometimes you just want to all right sometimes you just want to all right sometimes you just want to kill these people if you're one of these kill these people if you're one of these kill these people if you're one of these successors but there are certain people successors but there are certain people successors but there are certain people that have sort of a cloak of that have sort of a cloak of that have sort of a cloak of invincibility around them and it's the invincibility around them and it's the invincibility around them and it's the ghosts protecting them philip ii and ghosts protecting them philip ii and ghosts protecting them philip ii and alexander you go off and kill them alexander you go off and kill them alexander you go off and kill them your troops might kill you now that's your troops might kill you now that's your troops might kill you now that's not just speculation because some of the not just speculation because some of the not just speculation because some of the other women in this story have an other women in this story have an other women in this story have an incident very similar to that happen to incident very similar to that happen to incident very similar to that happen to them this is where the other women come them this is where the other women come them this is where the other women come into the piece philip ii had multiple into the piece philip ii had multiple into the piece philip ii had multiple wives remember we talked about one of wives remember we talked about one of wives remember we talked about one of these wives as an example of how tough these wives as an example of how tough these wives as an example of how tough you know philip shouldn't have a problem you know philip shouldn't have a problem you know philip shouldn't have a problem with Olympius right he has that warrior with Olympius right he has that warrior with Olympius right he has that warrior that a leery and warrior princess as a that a leery and warrior princess as a that a leery and warrior princess as a wife and one of his other ones the wife and one of his other ones the wife and one of his other ones the Wonder Woman lady fights with sword Wonder Woman lady fights with sword Wonder Woman lady fights with sword shield helmet remember we talked about shield helmet remember we talked about shield helmet remember we talked about her well you know she had children with her well you know she had children with her well you know she had children with Philip Philip Philip imagine how August a child of that woman imagine how August a child of that woman imagine how August a child of that woman trained in combat and maybe even leading trained in combat and maybe even leading trained in combat and maybe even leading troops melded with Philips DNA troops melded with Philips DNA troops melded with Philips DNA think of how Olga's those kids would be

think of how Olga's those kids would be think of how Olga's those kids would be well here they come into the story and well here they come into the story and well here they come into the story and they're female as we said earlier it's they're female as we said earlier it's they're female as we said earlier it's hard to keep track of the names and the hard to keep track of the names and the hard to keep track of the names and the players in this story without a players in this story without a players in this story without a scorecard this is the case by the way scorecard this is the case by the way scorecard this is the case by the way for any long Wars the 30 Years War is for any long Wars the 30 Years War is for any long Wars the 30 Years War is the same way where there's so much time the same way where there's so much time the same way where there's so much time for so much stuff to occur that it's for so much stuff to occur that it's for so much stuff to occur that it's impossible to keep track of it all it's impossible to keep track of it all it's impossible to keep track of it all it's a multi-generational soap opera kind of a multi-generational soap opera kind of a multi-generational soap opera kind of as we said I was trying to think of the as we said I was trying to think of the as we said I was trying to think of the way to simplify this the best and the way to simplify this the best and the way to simplify this the best and the best way to say it is that Alexander's best way to say it is that Alexander's best way to say it is that Alexander's half-sister the woman who we just talked half-sister the woman who we just talked half-sister the woman who we just talked about who is the daughter of Wonder about who is the daughter of Wonder about who is the daughter of Wonder Woman and Philip the second her name is Woman and Philip the second her name is Woman and Philip the second her name is Kanani it looks like cyan if you ever Kanani it looks like cyan if you ever Kanani it looks like cyan if you ever see it written also trained in the ways see it written also trained in the ways see it written also trained in the ways of the warrior illyrian princesses right of the warrior illyrian princesses right of the warrior illyrian princesses right so she's a killer a hand-to-hand killer so she's a killer a hand-to-hand killer so she's a killer a hand-to-hand killer apparently too very culture though I apparently too very culture though I apparently too very culture though I mean she's Philip the second daughter mean she's Philip the second daughter mean she's Philip the second daughter she's the King's daughter so she'll just she's the King's daughter so she'll just she's the King's daughter so she'll just kill you in a cultured sort of manner um kill you in a cultured sort of manner um kill you in a cultured sort of manner um she's involved in what some historians she's involved in what some historians she's involved in what some historians call a scheme it looks much more like a call a scheme it looks much more like a call a scheme it looks much more like a a grab for power in this post a grab for power in this post a grab for power in this post Alexandrian world and let's remember Alexandrian world and let's remember Alexandrian world and let's remember power this might not be because they're power this might not be because they're power this might not be because they're power-hungry power is synonymous with power-hungry power is synonymous with power-hungry power is synonymous with safety here and the best way to get safety here and the best way to get safety here and the best way to get eliminated is to be shut out of power by eliminated is to be shut out of power by eliminated is to be shut out of power by your enemies what happens though is that your enemies what happens though is that your enemies what happens though is that this cannon a daughter of Wonder Woman this cannon a daughter of Wonder Woman this cannon a daughter of Wonder Woman and philip ii makes a bold play to seize and philip ii makes a bold play to seize and philip ii makes a bold play to seize one of the sources of power and one of the sources of power and one of the sources of power and authority in this very unstable post authority in this very unstable post authority in this very unstable post Alexandrian world and this is all Alexandrian world and this is all Alexandrian world and this is all happening in the wake of Alexander's

happening in the wake of Alexander's happening in the wake of Alexander's death so a year two three this is the death so a year two three this is the death so a year two three this is the initial you know initial power moves of initial you know initial power moves of initial you know initial power moves of this whole thing there's two places that this whole thing there's two places that this whole thing there's two places that power emanates from officially in this power emanates from officially in this power emanates from officially in this world right now and it's the two kings world right now and it's the two kings world right now and it's the two kings Alexander's infant son Alexander the Alexander's infant son Alexander the Alexander's infant son Alexander the fourth with the Persian or Bactrian mom fourth with the Persian or Bactrian mom fourth with the Persian or Bactrian mom I think he's still in Asia at this point I think he's still in Asia at this point I think he's still in Asia at this point but he's an infant right but he's an infant right but he's an infant right he's a prop in the power struggles for he's a prop in the power struggles for he's a prop in the power struggles for now but then you have philip aridaias now but then you have philip aridaias now but then you have philip aridaias the mascot king the woman with the the mascot king the woman with the the mascot king the woman with the disability of some sort he's almost disability of some sort he's almost disability of some sort he's almost certainly being used as a puppet by the certainly being used as a puppet by the certainly being used as a puppet by the Warlord's you know who are the Regents Warlord's you know who are the Regents Warlord's you know who are the Regents right we're ruling for the king who's right we're ruling for the king who's right we're ruling for the king who's right here and he's indisposed at the right here and he's indisposed at the right here and he's indisposed at the moment but what happens if somebody moment but what happens if somebody moment but what happens if somebody steals the puppet from the Warlord's steals the puppet from the Warlord's steals the puppet from the Warlord's right that the person who's making it right that the person who's making it right that the person who's making it possible for you to keep the army loyal possible for you to keep the army loyal possible for you to keep the army loyal and happy and thinking that he's running and happy and thinking that he's running and happy and thinking that he's running the show and really you're running the the show and really you're running the the show and really you're running the show through him if you're one of the show through him if you're one of the show through him if you're one of the Warlord's how do you how do you prevent Warlord's how do you how do you prevent Warlord's how do you how do you prevent somebody from stealing the puppet well somebody from stealing the puppet well somebody from stealing the puppet well that's what this scheme that's what this scheme that's what this scheme is this daughter of philip ii and wonder is this daughter of philip ii and wonder is this daughter of philip ii and wonder woman is bringing her daughter a day woman is bringing her daughter a day woman is bringing her daughter a day 'you Riddick he's gonna be what she's 'you Riddick he's gonna be what she's 'you Riddick he's gonna be what she's known as eventually bringing her known as eventually bringing her known as eventually bringing her daughter and she's gonna try to marry daughter and she's gonna try to marry daughter and she's gonna try to marry her daughter to one of the Kings right her daughter to one of the Kings right her daughter to one of the Kings right she can't have the infant king he's not she can't have the infant king he's not she can't have the infant king he's not marriage Abul anyway but Phillip marriage Abul anyway but Phillip marriage Abul anyway but Phillip paradise doesn't have a wife now if paradise doesn't have a wife now if paradise doesn't have a wife now if you're trying to pull this scheme off you're trying to pull this scheme off you're trying to pull this scheme off though you can't go to the Warlord's you though you can't go to the Warlord's you though you can't go to the Warlord's you can't go to the people who have the can't go to the people who have the can't go to the people who have the puppet now that you're gonna steal the puppet now that you're gonna steal the puppet now that you're gonna steal the puppet from and say hey let me steal the puppet from and say hey let me steal the puppet from and say hey let me steal the puppet do I'll have your blessing puppet do I'll have your blessing puppet do I'll have your blessing you got to bypass them well how do you

you got to bypass them well how do you you got to bypass them well how do you bypass them you go right to the source bypass them you go right to the source bypass them you go right to the source of power the makedonia naar me and the of power the makedonia naar me and the of power the makedonia naar me and the infantry the salt of the earth types so infantry the salt of the earth types so infantry the salt of the earth types so the warlord general types the successors the warlord general types the successors the warlord general types the successors they get word that this is under way they get word that this is under way they get word that this is under way that the scheme is ongoing and that this that the scheme is ongoing and that this that the scheme is ongoing and that this woman cannon a is on the way and I've woman cannon a is on the way and I've woman cannon a is on the way and I've read sources that say she has a small read sources that say she has a small read sources that say she has a small bodyguard with her others that she's got bodyguard with her others that she's got bodyguard with her others that she's got a decent sized entourage others that a decent sized entourage others that a decent sized entourage others that she's got a whole army behind her so I she's got a whole army behind her so I she's got a whole army behind her so I don't know which of those is true but don't know which of those is true but don't know which of those is true but she's she's protected the general send she's she's protected the general send she's she's protected the general send out someone to intercept her before she out someone to intercept her before she out someone to intercept her before she could get to the infantry cuz lord knows could get to the infantry cuz lord knows could get to the infantry cuz lord knows the infantry will probably say yes to the infantry will probably say yes to the infantry will probably say yes to this deal and the intercepting force this deal and the intercepting force this deal and the intercepting force somehow blocks her for a little bit of somehow blocks her for a little bit of somehow blocks her for a little bit of time and in that little bit of time time and in that little bit of time time and in that little bit of time she's killed sources differ on what she's killed sources differ on what she's killed sources differ on what happened here everything from happened here everything from happened here everything from assassinated to violence breaking out assassinated to violence breaking out assassinated to violence breaking out between the various bodyguards that between the various bodyguards that between the various bodyguards that leads to her being killed in the fray to leads to her being killed in the fray to leads to her being killed in the fray to a full blown story again from one of the a full blown story again from one of the a full blown story again from one of the less reputable sources that she's giving less reputable sources that she's giving less reputable sources that she's giving a speech she sounds fully like Phillips a speech she sounds fully like Phillips a speech she sounds fully like Phillips daughter in this warrior princess like daughter in this warrior princess like daughter in this warrior princess like she's getting up in the face of her she's getting up in the face of her she's getting up in the face of her assassins and pleading her case and assassins and pleading her case and assassins and pleading her case and yelling at them and she's in the middle yelling at them and she's in the middle yelling at them and she's in the middle of a speech in one of these stories to of a speech in one of these stories to of a speech in one of these stories to the Troops that are there there are the Troops that are there there are the Troops that are there there are makedonia and troops there witnessing makedonia and troops there witnessing makedonia and troops there witnessing all this and while she's in the middle all this and while she's in the middle all this and while she's in the middle of the speech she she's stabbed or of the speech she she's stabbed or of the speech she she's stabbed or killed and and cut down in the middle of killed and and cut down in the middle of killed and and cut down in the middle of the conversation no matter which of the conversation no matter which of the conversation no matter which of those stories is true it apparently those stories is true it apparently those stories is true it apparently happens in a way that either the happens in a way that either the happens in a way that either the makedonia n-- troops see it at the time makedonia n-- troops see it at the time makedonia n-- troops see it at the time watch it live or hear about it soon

watch it live or hear about it soon watch it live or hear about it soon after and they're outraged after and they're outraged after and they're outraged you can't kill Philip the second you can't kill Philip the second you can't kill Philip the second daughter who the hell are you daughter who the hell are you daughter who the hell are you and these warlords who are counting on and these warlords who are counting on and these warlords who are counting on these military forces to stay loyal to these military forces to stay loyal to these military forces to stay loyal to them are about to be thrown to the them are about to be thrown to the them are about to be thrown to the crocodiles by these same troops because crocodiles by these same troops because crocodiles by these same troops because they killed what a philip ii daughters they killed what a philip ii daughters they killed what a philip ii daughters in front of them the only way they in front of them the only way they in front of them the only way they managed to avoid disaster is to give in managed to avoid disaster is to give in managed to avoid disaster is to give in to what that now dead daughter of Philip to what that now dead daughter of Philip to what that now dead daughter of Philip wanted they have to go ahead and let wanted they have to go ahead and let wanted they have to go ahead and let this granddaughter of Philip this a day this granddaughter of Philip this a day this granddaughter of Philip this a day a Eurydice Lady Mary the mascot King a Eurydice Lady Mary the mascot King a Eurydice Lady Mary the mascot King Mary the puppet and as I think he was a Mary the puppet and as I think he was a Mary the puppet and as I think he was a V Bosworth who coined the phrase and V Bosworth who coined the phrase and V Bosworth who coined the phrase and it's not very nice the marriage of the it's not very nice the marriage of the it's not very nice the marriage of the Amazon to the idiot but it gives you a Amazon to the idiot but it gives you a Amazon to the idiot but it gives you a sense of what's going on here an easily sense of what's going on here an easily sense of what's going on here an easily controllable not very August personality controllable not very August personality controllable not very August personality who was being controlled by these who was being controlled by these who was being controlled by these powerful marshals is now going to be powerful marshals is now going to be powerful marshals is now going to be controlled by this powerful personality controlled by this powerful personality controlled by this powerful personality called a de aridity and if you took an called a de aridity and if you took an called a de aridity and if you took an ancient Greek playwright brought them in ancient Greek playwright brought them in ancient Greek playwright brought them in the time machine and let them write for the time machine and let them write for the time machine and let them write for one of today's TV daytime soap operas one of today's TV daytime soap operas one of today's TV daytime soap operas that's how I see this whole whole that's how I see this whole whole that's how I see this whole whole situation unfolding because it looks situation unfolding because it looks situation unfolding because it looks like this is revenge from another one of like this is revenge from another one of like this is revenge from another one of Philips wives against Olympius from the Philips wives against Olympius from the Philips wives against Olympius from the grave through her descendants something grave through her descendants something grave through her descendants something wonderfully Greek about that this a daya wonderfully Greek about that this a daya wonderfully Greek about that this a daya Riddick he's gonna be an instant thorn Riddick he's gonna be an instant thorn Riddick he's gonna be an instant thorn in the side of Olympius though remember in the side of Olympius though remember in the side of Olympius though remember she's she's the granddaughter of her

she's she's the granddaughter of her she's she's the granddaughter of her husband she's going to be an instant husband she's going to be an instant husband she's going to be an instant thorn in the side because what if she's thorn in the side because what if she's thorn in the side because what if she's able to make you know Philip aridaias able to make you know Philip aridaias able to make you know Philip aridaias the the mascot king what if she can make the the mascot king what if she can make the the mascot king what if she can make him legitimate enough so no one's gonna him legitimate enough so no one's gonna him legitimate enough so no one's gonna wait around 17 years for Olympius as wait around 17 years for Olympius as wait around 17 years for Olympius as grandson to come of age in other words grandson to come of age in other words grandson to come of age in other words could she turn the puppet king into a could she turn the puppet king into a could she turn the puppet king into a real king the only king that she real king the only king that she real king the only king that she dominates it's wonderful but I said dominates it's wonderful but I said dominates it's wonderful but I said earlier that this period is one of the earlier that this period is one of the earlier that this period is one of the ones I use as evidence for why history ones I use as evidence for why history ones I use as evidence for why history ruins fiction for me because we already ruins fiction for me because we already ruins fiction for me because we already have a wonderful story here kind of have a wonderful story here kind of have a wonderful story here kind of unbelievable wild you know unbelievable wild you know unbelievable wild you know and then in typical Alexandrian fashion and then in typical Alexandrian fashion and then in typical Alexandrian fashion the story gets kicked up two notches the story gets kicked up two notches the story gets kicked up two notches knotch number one apparently Alexander knotch number one apparently Alexander knotch number one apparently Alexander the Great had a day.you Riddick his the Great had a day.you Riddick his the Great had a day.you Riddick his father killed father killed father killed when she was a kid one of his perch is when she was a kid one of his perch is when she was a kid one of his perch is you know potential competitor so if she you know potential competitor so if she you know potential competitor so if she didn't like the other side of the family didn't like the other side of the family didn't like the other side of the family to begin with she really doesn't like to begin with she really doesn't like to begin with she really doesn't like him now the other thing and I find this him now the other thing and I find this him now the other thing and I find this to be the one where I would send this to be the one where I would send this to be the one where I would send this script back to the screenwriter and said script back to the screenwriter and said script back to the screenwriter and said sorry you went too far here nobody's sorry you went too far here nobody's sorry you went too far here nobody's gonna buy that she's apparently gonna buy that she's apparently gonna buy that she's apparently something like 16 years old her age is something like 16 years old her age is something like 16 years old her age is tough to determining and dividing the tough to determining and dividing the tough to determining and dividing the spoils the Robin water-filled said 16 spoils the Robin water-filled said 16 spoils the Robin water-filled said 16 Wow and 16 really doesn't mean anything Wow and 16 really doesn't mean anything Wow and 16 really doesn't mean anything in a neutral playing field historically in a neutral playing field historically in a neutral playing field historically speaking right as we all know people got speaking right as we all know people got speaking right as we all know people got married younger Romeo and Juliet there

married younger Romeo and Juliet there married younger Romeo and Juliet there and she's like 1314 something like that and she's like 1314 something like that and she's like 1314 something like that but we're not talking about somebody who but we're not talking about somebody who but we're not talking about somebody who just gets married and then ends up in just gets married and then ends up in just gets married and then ends up in somebody's you know royal family or somebody's you know royal family or somebody's you know royal family or whatnot we're talking about somebody who whatnot we're talking about somebody who whatnot we're talking about somebody who almost immediately asserts her almost immediately asserts her almost immediately asserts her prerogatives and tries to rest as much prerogatives and tries to rest as much prerogatives and tries to rest as much control as she can grab over the control as she can grab over the control as she can grab over the situation here and she's not playing situation here and she's not playing situation here and she's not playing with a bunch of little court with a bunch of little court with a bunch of little court functionaries she's doing this in a room functionaries she's doing this in a room functionaries she's doing this in a room full of these generals and marshals that full of these generals and marshals that full of these generals and marshals that are so great I said that only like are so great I said that only like are so great I said that only like Napoleon's group of generals and Napoleon's group of generals and Napoleon's group of generals and marshals and jenga's cons I mean it's marshals and jenga's cons I mean it's marshals and jenga's cons I mean it's rarefied air and some of these guys are rarefied air and some of these guys are rarefied air and some of these guys are like multiple times her age there's a like multiple times her age there's a like multiple times her age there's a bunch of these dudes in their late 60s bunch of these dudes in their late 60s bunch of these dudes in their late 60s all the way up to their mid 70s still in all the way up to their mid 70s still in all the way up to their mid 70s still in the field fighting by the way they don't the field fighting by the way they don't the field fighting by the way they don't make people like this anymore make people like this anymore make people like this anymore we should point out guys who were we should point out guys who were we should point out guys who were fighting with Alexander's dad the day fighting with Alexander's dad the day fighting with Alexander's dad the day Alexander was born and some Alexander was born and some Alexander was born and some sixteen-year-old is gonna come in there sixteen-year-old is gonna come in there sixteen-year-old is gonna come in there who wasn't even a part of the story five who wasn't even a part of the story five who wasn't even a part of the story five minutes ago and start telling them how minutes ago and start telling them how minutes ago and start telling them how it's gonna be this is insane and I it's gonna be this is insane and I it's gonna be this is insane and I wouldn't believe it when I do my wouldn't believe it when I do my wouldn't believe it when I do my multi-part you know what forty-five multi-part you know what forty-five multi-part you know what forty-five fifty seven episodes whatever it's gonna fifty seven episodes whatever it's gonna fifty seven episodes whatever it's gonna be on my cable channel I'm going to find be on my cable channel I'm going to find be on my cable channel I'm going to find some actors from that region cuz I feel some actors from that region cuz I feel some actors from that region cuz I feel like there's in my head anyway I have a like there's in my head anyway I have a like there's in my head anyway I have a very specific kind of fire in mind that very specific kind of fire in mind that very specific kind of fire in mind that that that's native to the region I guess that that's native to the region I guess that that's native to the region I guess you could say you know Greece northern you could say you know Greece northern you could say you know Greece northern Greece Albania Bulgaria maybe maybe Greece Albania Bulgaria maybe maybe Greece Albania Bulgaria maybe maybe Sicily and then go find yourself like a Sicily and then go find yourself like a Sicily and then go find yourself like a 16 year old from there who it sounds

16 year old from there who it sounds 16 year old from there who it sounds like something out of The Hunger like something out of The Hunger like something out of The Hunger doesn't it too much to be believed doesn't it too much to be believed doesn't it too much to be believed because this 16 year old is not going to because this 16 year old is not going to because this 16 year old is not going to stay in the shadows at all now the year stay in the shadows at all now the year stay in the shadows at all now the year she marries Philip Barry Deus though is she marries Philip Barry Deus though is she marries Philip Barry Deus though is 321 BCE this is two years after 321 BCE this is two years after 321 BCE this is two years after Alexander the Great dies and it is the Alexander the Great dies and it is the Alexander the Great dies and it is the year that the whole post Alexander deal year that the whole post Alexander deal year that the whole post Alexander deal on how we're going to run things goes on how we're going to run things goes on how we're going to run things goes murderously sideways the deal made in murderously sideways the deal made in murderously sideways the deal made in the wake of Alexander's death you know the wake of Alexander's death you know the wake of Alexander's death you know under pressure in haste it never seems under pressure in haste it never seems under pressure in haste it never seems like that had much of a chance of like that had much of a chance of like that had much of a chance of lasting especially with all these lasting especially with all these lasting especially with all these ambitious powerful people involved it ambitious powerful people involved it ambitious powerful people involved it would have required a lot of good would have required a lot of good would have required a lot of good behavior on a lot of people's parts to behavior on a lot of people's parts to behavior on a lot of people's parts to understand the set up because it's kind understand the set up because it's kind understand the set up because it's kind of important essentially what all these of important essentially what all these of important essentially what all these people did in deciding how they were people did in deciding how they were people did in deciding how they were gonna run Alexander's Empire after he gonna run Alexander's Empire after he gonna run Alexander's Empire after he died was to run it like the Persians ran died was to run it like the Persians ran died was to run it like the Persians ran theirs and really if you want to look at theirs and really if you want to look at theirs and really if you want to look at it similar to the way the makedonia pnes it similar to the way the makedonia pnes it similar to the way the makedonia pnes ran makedonia before they got all big ran makedonia before they got all big ran makedonia before they got all big and powerful all these great successors and powerful all these great successors and powerful all these great successors these generals these marshals these high these generals these marshals these high these generals these marshals these high administrators these bodyguards of administrators these bodyguards of administrators these bodyguards of Alexander would all be given territories Alexander would all be given territories Alexander would all be given territories you know think Al Capone South Side's you know think Al Capone South Side's you know think Al Capone South Side's his territory Ptolemy Ptolemy gets Egypt his territory Ptolemy Ptolemy gets Egypt his territory Ptolemy Ptolemy gets Egypt so all these people rule these areas and so all these people rule these areas and so all these people rule these areas and they rule them kind of like kings and I they rule them kind of like kings and I they rule them kind of like kings and I keep calling them warlords because they keep calling them warlords because they keep calling them warlords because they fit the definition of the term at the fit the definition of the term at the fit the definition of the term at the same time one historian reminds us that same time one historian reminds us that same time one historian reminds us that these are at this time period people who these are at this time period people who these are at this time period people who are practically kings themselves are practically kings themselves are practically kings themselves fabulously wealthy immensely famous lots

fabulously wealthy immensely famous lots fabulously wealthy immensely famous lots of troops swear allegiance to them I of troops swear allegiance to them I of troops swear allegiance to them I mean these are these are kings in their mean these are these are kings in their mean these are these are kings in their own right you start if you're a king own right you start if you're a king own right you start if you're a king after a while wanting to be treated like after a while wanting to be treated like after a while wanting to be treated like a king and not really wanting to bow the a king and not really wanting to bow the a king and not really wanting to bow the knee to any boss of bosses but this knee to any boss of bosses but this knee to any boss of bosses but this system has won that's the deal it is system has won that's the deal it is system has won that's the deal it is like a Persian system where all of the like a Persian system where all of the like a Persian system where all of the sat traps are Kings in their own sat traps are Kings in their own sat traps are Kings in their own territory but there is someone called territory but there is someone called territory but there is someone called the King of Kings and that was the high the King of Kings and that was the high the King of Kings and that was the high commander well that person is a title in commander well that person is a title in commander well that person is a title in this system is Regent and they they rule this system is Regent and they they rule this system is Regent and they they rule with the royal power in the name of the with the royal power in the name of the with the royal power in the name of the two kings who are not capable of ruling two kings who are not capable of ruling two kings who are not capable of ruling at the moment at the moment at the moment this person just happens to get this job this person just happens to get this job this person just happens to get this job because he was at Alexander's been seen because he was at Alexander's been seen because he was at Alexander's been seen as Alexander Lay Dying and Alexander as Alexander Lay Dying and Alexander as Alexander Lay Dying and Alexander gives the signet ring to this guy his gives the signet ring to this guy his gives the signet ring to this guy his name is perd a kiss by the way and he's name is perd a kiss by the way and he's name is perd a kiss by the way and he's one of the successors and he's an one of the successors and he's an one of the successors and he's an impressive figure and as we had impressive figure and as we had impressive figure and as we had mentioned earlier in this dynamic some mentioned earlier in this dynamic some mentioned earlier in this dynamic some of the impressive figures are the ones of the impressive figures are the ones of the impressive figures are the ones most of the other people agree we don't most of the other people agree we don't most of the other people agree we don't want them around want them around want them around now this signet ring that Alexander now this signet ring that Alexander now this signet ring that Alexander gives to perta kiss is not the gives to perta kiss is not the gives to perta kiss is not the equivalent of giving him the crown it's equivalent of giving him the crown it's equivalent of giving him the crown it's not saying I leave the Empire to you not saying I leave the Empire to you not saying I leave the Empire to you it's more like if we go back to our it's more like if we go back to our it's more like if we go back to our analogy of you know Philip and Sons analogy of you know Philip and Sons analogy of you know Philip and Sons Asian conquest expedition LLC or Asian conquest expedition LLC or Asian conquest expedition LLC or whatever the family business it's like whatever the family business it's like whatever the family business it's like given in the keys to the office so he given in the keys to the office so he given in the keys to the office so he can open up in the morning for everyone can open up in the morning for everyone can open up in the morning for everyone else so Perdiccas will basically use else so Perdiccas will basically use else so Perdiccas will basically use that though against the other successors that though against the other successors that though against the other successors and say hey you know he didn't give you

and say hey you know he didn't give you and say hey you know he didn't give you the office keys did he so Perdiccas the office keys did he so Perdiccas the office keys did he so Perdiccas becomes the first regent and then he becomes the first regent and then he becomes the first regent and then he starts acting if you're looking at this starts acting if you're looking at this starts acting if you're looking at this from the point of view of his successor from the point of view of his successor from the point of view of his successor opponents he starts acting like a king opponents he starts acting like a king opponents he starts acting like a king or wanting to look like a king or or wanting to look like a king or or wanting to look like a king or starting to want to act like he could be starting to want to act like he could be starting to want to act like he could be the next Alexander and so you know they the next Alexander and so you know they the next Alexander and so you know they had to take him down Olympius plays a had to take him down Olympius plays a had to take him down Olympius plays a role in this which is why some role in this which is why some role in this which is why some historians have always blamed her for historians have always blamed her for historians have always blamed her for being at the root cause of this entire being at the root cause of this entire being at the root cause of this entire world war you don't get very many women world war you don't get very many women world war you don't get very many women in geopolitical history in the ancient in geopolitical history in the ancient in geopolitical history in the ancient world and then they finally write about world and then they finally write about world and then they finally write about her and the accuser of starting a her and the accuser of starting a her and the accuser of starting a multi-generational World War come on and multi-generational World War come on and multi-generational World War come on and probably for reasons of jealousy and probably for reasons of jealousy and probably for reasons of jealousy and revenge and you know spiked all those revenge and you know spiked all those revenge and you know spiked all those typical female qualities even good typical female qualities even good typical female qualities even good historians use words like scheming and historians use words like scheming and historians use words like scheming and meddling and things like that where meddling and things like that where meddling and things like that where you're going was she really meddling or you're going was she really meddling or you're going was she really meddling or were there geopolitical concerns going were there geopolitical concerns going were there geopolitical concerns going on here that explained it in a better on here that explained it in a better on here that explained it in a better way than meddling do we accuse Alexander way than meddling do we accuse Alexander way than meddling do we accuse Alexander of meddling in other kingdoms affairs of meddling in other kingdoms affairs of meddling in other kingdoms affairs being the regent though gives this / - being the regent though gives this / - being the regent though gives this / - kiss guy the inside track to being the kiss guy the inside track to being the kiss guy the inside track to being the next Alexander and Olympia starts next Alexander and Olympia starts next Alexander and Olympia starts positioning herself back in makedonia to positioning herself back in makedonia to positioning herself back in makedonia to be on his side because she needs anybody be on his side because she needs anybody be on his side because she needs anybody who's going to be someone who can who's going to be someone who can who's going to be someone who can protect her and and protect her interest protect her and and protect her interest protect her and and protect her interest from antipodal right now that Alexander from antipodal right now that Alexander from antipodal right now that Alexander is dead this is dead this is dead this nice feud she has with antipodal you nice feud she has with antipodal you nice feud she has with antipodal you know you can you can light the torch to know you can you can light the torch to know you can you can light the torch to that gasoline-soaked wood that you've that gasoline-soaked wood that you've that gasoline-soaked wood that you've been soaking down for more than a decade been soaking down for more than a decade been soaking down for more than a decade now who's gonna protect you from an now who's gonna protect you from an now who's gonna protect you from an tippet or well she's working on that she

tippet or well she's working on that she tippet or well she's working on that she actually you know schemes or metals in actually you know schemes or metals in actually you know schemes or metals in affairs in greece right after alexander affairs in greece right after alexander affairs in greece right after alexander dies to stir up trouble just to keep an dies to stir up trouble just to keep an dies to stir up trouble just to keep an tip ador busy which is of course just tip ador busy which is of course just tip ador busy which is of course just going to make him a little bit more going to make him a little bit more going to make him a little bit more angry right and then / takus this first angry right and then / takus this first angry right and then / takus this first guy who gets the Regency he becomes the guy who gets the Regency he becomes the guy who gets the Regency he becomes the first crab dynamic victim in the bucket first crab dynamic victim in the bucket first crab dynamic victim in the bucket one of the crazy things about the war of one of the crazy things about the war of one of the crazy things about the war of the successors and it will be hard to the successors and it will be hard to the successors and it will be hard to find anything quite like it is that it find anything quite like it is that it find anything quite like it is that it combines this element of geopolitical combines this element of geopolitical combines this element of geopolitical cutthroat Machiavellian type world cutthroat Machiavellian type world cutthroat Machiavellian type world affairs at the highest level you know in affairs at the highest level you know in affairs at the highest level you know in that geopolitical world right that that that geopolitical world right that that that geopolitical world right that that mediterranean western asia northern mediterranean western asia northern mediterranean western asia northern africa world with very close personal africa world with very close personal africa world with very close personal relationship dynamics that's why the relationship dynamics that's why the relationship dynamics that's why the soap opera thing works so well americans soap opera thing works so well americans soap opera thing works so well americans love to point out and talk about the love to point out and talk about the love to point out and talk about the element of the american civil war that element of the american civil war that element of the american civil war that that's fascinating about how the that's fascinating about how the that's fascinating about how the generals on both sides knew each other generals on both sides knew each other generals on both sides knew each other and often serve together in wars and had and often serve together in wars and had and often serve together in wars and had close relationships it is it's a dynamic close relationships it is it's a dynamic close relationships it is it's a dynamic element that adds a humaneness and a element that adds a humaneness and a element that adds a humaneness and a relationship between enemies that you relationship between enemies that you relationship between enemies that you normally don't have when the enemies are normally don't have when the enemies are normally don't have when the enemies are foreign right I know those guys you know foreign right I know those guys you know foreign right I know those guys you know well you get this to a degree you'll well you get this to a degree you'll well you get this to a degree you'll never see anywhere else in this in this never see anywhere else in this in this never see anywhere else in this in this upcoming series of wars because all of upcoming series of wars because all of upcoming series of wars because all of the leaders of these countries know each the leaders of these countries know each the leaders of these countries know each other intimately families were probably other intimately families were probably other intimately families were probably closed may have been toddlers together closed may have been toddlers together closed may have been toddlers together may have been in the Aristotle school may have been in the Aristotle school may have been in the Aristotle school together certainly served together many together certainly served together many together certainly served together many in the greatest event that they can find

in the greatest event that they can find in the greatest event that they can find anywhere in their history book still anywhere in their history book still anywhere in their history book still they go back to mythical times with gods they go back to mythical times with gods they go back to mythical times with gods right they conquered the east together right they conquered the east together right they conquered the east together as comrades maybe saved each other's as comrades maybe saved each other's as comrades maybe saved each other's lives and now they're ordering hits on lives and now they're ordering hits on lives and now they're ordering hits on each other what's more these officer each other what's more these officer each other what's more these officer cores in all these versions of the cores in all these versions of the cores in all these versions of the Vermont the Macedonian army that's now Vermont the Macedonian army that's now Vermont the Macedonian army that's now spread out from Albania to Afghanistan spread out from Albania to Afghanistan spread out from Albania to Afghanistan from Egypt to India all these upper from Egypt to India all these upper from Egypt to India all these upper officer cores know each other which officer cores know each other which officer cores know each other which causes huge issue causes huge issue causes huge issue you'll get people making statements and you'll get people making statements and you'll get people making statements and saying things like well I'm not gonna saying things like well I'm not gonna saying things like well I'm not gonna fight against craters I won't fight fight against craters I won't fight fight against craters I won't fight against him or troops that end up liking against him or troops that end up liking against him or troops that end up liking the general that they're about to fight the general that they're about to fight the general that they're about to fight against that they know personally and against that they know personally and against that they know personally and who's very popular more than the person who's very popular more than the person who's very popular more than the person they're fighting for and switching sides they're fighting for and switching sides they're fighting for and switching sides what this really is is it's a world war what this really is is it's a world war what this really is is it's a world war that's going to encompass the entire that's going to encompass the entire that's going to encompass the entire former Empire of Alexander but that is former Empire of Alexander but that is former Empire of Alexander but that is really at its core a Mack Adomian Civil really at its core a Mack Adomian Civil really at its core a Mack Adomian Civil War and all these millions of people in War and all these millions of people in War and all these millions of people in these territories most of whom have these territories most of whom have these territories most of whom have already suffered by being conquered by already suffered by being conquered by already suffered by being conquered by the makedonia --nz are gonna get swept the makedonia --nz are gonna get swept the makedonia --nz are gonna get swept up into it the reason Olympia sometimes up into it the reason Olympia sometimes up into it the reason Olympia sometimes gets accused of starting the war is that gets accused of starting the war is that gets accused of starting the war is that this particular Regent the guy who has this particular Regent the guy who has this particular Regent the guy who has the inside track to succeeding Alexander the inside track to succeeding Alexander the inside track to succeeding Alexander is already kind of riding high and is already kind of riding high and is already kind of riding high and scaring everybody he's scaring everybody scaring everybody he's scaring everybody scaring everybody he's scaring everybody to the point where he has to make a to the point where he has to make a to the point where he has to make a marriage arrangement with his you know marriage arrangement with his you know marriage arrangement with his you know competitors to try to make them feel competitors to try to make them feel competitors to try to make them feel better so he's gonna marry Antipodes better so he's gonna marry Antipodes better so he's gonna marry Antipodes daughter right Olympia's his enemy daughter right Olympia's his enemy daughter right Olympia's his enemy antipodal that's not good for Olympius

antipodal that's not good for Olympius antipodal that's not good for Olympius by the way he's gonna marry Antipodes by the way he's gonna marry Antipodes by the way he's gonna marry Antipodes daughter and that will help you know daughter and that will help you know daughter and that will help you know patch over their differences patch over their differences patch over their differences so he's betrothed to this woman whose so he's betrothed to this woman whose so he's betrothed to this woman whose name is nasiha and olympia sends name is nasiha and olympia sends name is nasiha and olympia sends cleopatra the Bachelorette to go in and cleopatra the Bachelorette to go in and cleopatra the Bachelorette to go in and block her and offer marriage to her block her and offer marriage to her block her and offer marriage to her instead this would completely instead this would completely instead this would completely discombobulated everything in his book discombobulated everything in his book discombobulated everything in his book dividing the spoils author Robin dividing the spoils author Robin dividing the spoils author Robin water-filled describes Olympia's scheme water-filled describes Olympia's scheme water-filled describes Olympia's scheme or meddling this way quote Olympius was or meddling this way quote Olympius was or meddling this way quote Olympius was still nervous about antipodal once he still nervous about antipodal once he still nervous about antipodal once he had finished settling affairs in had finished settling affairs in had finished settling affairs in southern Greece he was bound to punish southern Greece he was bound to punish southern Greece he was bound to punish her for her support of the Greek her for her support of the Greek her for her support of the Greek rebellion she came up with a bold ploy rebellion she came up with a bold ploy rebellion she came up with a bold ploy knowing that nasiha this is Antipodes knowing that nasiha this is Antipodes knowing that nasiha this is Antipodes daughter was betrothed to Perdiccas and daughter was betrothed to Perdiccas and daughter was betrothed to Perdiccas and was even now on her way to Presidio for was even now on her way to Presidio for was even now on her way to Presidio for the wedding she simultaneously sent the wedding she simultaneously sent the wedding she simultaneously sent Cleopatra to Sardis which is nearby and Cleopatra to Sardis which is nearby and Cleopatra to Sardis which is nearby and wrote to human ease suggesting that wrote to human ease suggesting that wrote to human ease suggesting that Perdiccas might like to marry her Perdiccas might like to marry her Perdiccas might like to marry her daughter instead she needed Perdiccas to daughter instead she needed Perdiccas to daughter instead she needed Perdiccas to be Antipodes enemy not his son-in-law be Antipodes enemy not his son-in-law be Antipodes enemy not his son-in-law she needed an tip in her to be just she needed an tip in her to be just she needed an tip in her to be just did by war in Asia and unable to turn did by war in Asia and unable to turn did by war in Asia and unable to turn his attention to a Pyrus her homeland his attention to a Pyrus her homeland his attention to a Pyrus her homeland the plan worked perfectly he writes he the plan worked perfectly he writes he the plan worked perfectly he writes he continues quote Olympius is overall continues quote Olympius is overall continues quote Olympius is overall intention now and in the following years intention now and in the following years intention now and in the following years was to see her grandson Alexander the was to see her grandson Alexander the was to see her grandson Alexander the fourth gain the makedonia enthroned even

fourth gain the makedonia enthroned even fourth gain the makedonia enthroned even though the chances of his attaining his though the chances of his attaining his though the chances of his attaining his majority must have appeared very bleak majority must have appeared very bleak majority must have appeared very bleak offering Cleopatra Alexander's sister to offering Cleopatra Alexander's sister to offering Cleopatra Alexander's sister to purchase was a major plank in the scheme purchase was a major plank in the scheme purchase was a major plank in the scheme she wanted to see Perdiccas arrive in she wanted to see Perdiccas arrive in she wanted to see Perdiccas arrive in makka Don Mary to Alexander's sister makka Don Mary to Alexander's sister makka Don Mary to Alexander's sister welcomed by Alexander's mother with two welcomed by Alexander's mother with two welcomed by Alexander's mother with two kings and Alexander's corpse in his kings and Alexander's corpse in his kings and Alexander's corpse in his train and at the head of the army with train and at the head of the army with train and at the head of the army with which Alexander had conquered the East which Alexander had conquered the East which Alexander had conquered the East under such circumstances antipathy would under such circumstances antipathy would under such circumstances antipathy would have had no future barring unforeseen have had no future barring unforeseen have had no future barring unforeseen ball accidents perdicas would have been ball accidents perdicas would have been ball accidents perdicas would have been the sole ruler of the empire until the sole ruler of the empire until the sole ruler of the empire until Alexander the fourth came of age with Alexander the fourth came of age with Alexander the fourth came of age with Olympius by his side end quote Olympius by his side end quote Olympius by his side end quote apparently Perdiccas is tempted by this apparently Perdiccas is tempted by this apparently Perdiccas is tempted by this whole thing but he goes ahead with the whole thing but he goes ahead with the whole thing but he goes ahead with the wedding Mary's interpreters daughter wedding Mary's interpreters daughter wedding Mary's interpreters daughter anyway but then starts sending messages anyway but then starts sending messages anyway but then starts sending messages to Cleopatra basically insinuating that to Cleopatra basically insinuating that to Cleopatra basically insinuating that he's still interested and maybe they he's still interested and maybe they he's still interested and maybe they could work this deal and that kind of could work this deal and that kind of could work this deal and that kind of thing and that becomes known to the thing and that becomes known to the thing and that becomes known to the other big powerful generals and marshals other big powerful generals and marshals other big powerful generals and marshals to them many histories portray this is to them many histories portray this is to them many histories portray this is like the moment of reveal when Perdiccas like the moment of reveal when Perdiccas like the moment of reveal when Perdiccas as true intentions are are made known to as true intentions are are made known to as true intentions are are made known to everyone I don't know if it's quite that everyone I don't know if it's quite that everyone I don't know if it's quite that big of the the reveal moment but big of the the reveal moment but big of the the reveal moment but essentially it shows hey I'm going for essentially it shows hey I'm going for essentially it shows hey I'm going for it all he's the first to trigger the it all he's the first to trigger the it all he's the first to trigger the famous crabs in a bucket dynamic I've famous crabs in a bucket dynamic I've famous crabs in a bucket dynamic I've overused and talked about this whole overused and talked about this whole overused and talked about this whole program he will have several powerful program he will have several powerful program he will have several powerful marshals band together to take him down marshals band together to take him down marshals band together to take him down he will also fight with Ptolemy another

he will also fight with Ptolemy another he will also fight with Ptolemy another one of the successors who's whose one of the successors who's whose one of the successors who's whose territories Egypt Ptolemy is one of my territories Egypt Ptolemy is one of my territories Egypt Ptolemy is one of my favorite ones he was a bodyguard of favorite ones he was a bodyguard of favorite ones he was a bodyguard of Alexander's he was a member of the the Alexander's he was a member of the the Alexander's he was a member of the the small class of boys who learned from small class of boys who learned from small class of boys who learned from Aristotle he is the one who gets Egypt Aristotle he is the one who gets Egypt Aristotle he is the one who gets Egypt for his territory he's also the one who for his territory he's also the one who for his territory he's also the one who in 321 BCE steals alexander the great's in 321 BCE steals alexander the great's in 321 BCE steals alexander the great's preserved corpse preserved corpse preserved corpse while it's on its way in a in a big while it's on its way in a in a big while it's on its way in a in a big display a convoy showing off the display a convoy showing off the display a convoy showing off the god-king to all the people along the god-king to all the people along the god-king to all the people along the Royal Road all the way back to makedonia Royal Road all the way back to makedonia Royal Road all the way back to makedonia where it can be buried in its native where it can be buried in its native where it can be buried in its native soil and instead Ptolemy and the soil and instead Ptolemy and the soil and instead Ptolemy and the greatest heist in all human history greatest heist in all human history greatest heist in all human history steals it brings it back to Egypt it steals it brings it back to Egypt it steals it brings it back to Egypt it will become a tourist attraction for will become a tourist attraction for will become a tourist attraction for generations and Peter Green calls it a generations and Peter Green calls it a generations and Peter Green calls it a quasi magical good-luck charm and quasi magical good-luck charm and quasi magical good-luck charm and legitimize er of power he says in the legitimize er of power he says in the legitimize er of power he says in the makedonia system in order to be makedonia system in order to be makedonia system in order to be considered a legitimate successor to the considered a legitimate successor to the considered a legitimate successor to the previous king you have to bury the previous king you have to bury the previous king you have to bury the previous king and only ptolemy has the previous king and only ptolemy has the previous king and only ptolemy has the body at this point body at this point body at this point what a great heist it's like Al Capone what a great heist it's like Al Capone what a great heist it's like Al Capone seizing all that bootleg liquor from a seizing all that bootleg liquor from a seizing all that bootleg liquor from a competitor now the problem with Olympius competitor now the problem with Olympius competitor now the problem with Olympius hitching her wagon to this / - kiss guy hitching her wagon to this / - kiss guy hitching her wagon to this / - kiss guy and essentially offering him the kingdom and essentially offering him the kingdom and essentially offering him the kingdom right I give you Cleopatra it's jackpot right I give you Cleopatra it's jackpot right I give you Cleopatra it's jackpot you win is that with all these other you win is that with all these other you win is that with all these other powerful generals against Perdiccas he powerful generals against Perdiccas he powerful generals against Perdiccas he gets whacked it happens to him in Egypt gets whacked it happens to him in Egypt gets whacked it happens to him in Egypt when he's fighting Ptolemy the guy who when he's fighting Ptolemy the guy who when he's fighting Ptolemy the guy who stole Alexander's body apparently stole Alexander's body apparently stole Alexander's body apparently officers come in - purr - kisses tent

officers come in - purr - kisses tent officers come in - purr - kisses tent and knife him or sword get him with a and knife him or sword get him with a and knife him or sword get him with a sword he'd already had all kinds of sword he'd already had all kinds of sword he'd already had all kinds of debacles he had an army desert to the debacles he had an army desert to the debacles he had an army desert to the other side other side other side he had a river crossing that went he had a river crossing that went he had a river crossing that went disastrously awry and maybe 2,000 men disastrously awry and maybe 2,000 men disastrously awry and maybe 2,000 men drowned or were eaten by crocodiles and drowned or were eaten by crocodiles and drowned or were eaten by crocodiles and so the army probably had a lot of reason so the army probably had a lot of reason so the army probably had a lot of reason to not be happy with him so when these to not be happy with him so when these to not be happy with him so when these officers knifed him sometimes you'll officers knifed him sometimes you'll officers knifed him sometimes you'll read in the history books it'll say that read in the history books it'll say that read in the history books it'll say that he was killed by his own troops and if he was killed by his own troops and if he was killed by his own troops and if your officers knife you that's still your officers knife you that's still your officers knife you that's still technically true but it has a different technically true but it has a different technically true but it has a different connotation and in this case some of the connotation and in this case some of the connotation and in this case some of the history's record that Ptolemy is sitting history's record that Ptolemy is sitting history's record that Ptolemy is sitting across the river with his army waiting across the river with his army waiting across the river with his army waiting for word that this deed has been carried for word that this deed has been carried for word that this deed has been carried out that sure sounds like a mafia hit out that sure sounds like a mafia hit out that sure sounds like a mafia hit though doesn't it it's ruthless but I though doesn't it it's ruthless but I though doesn't it it's ruthless but I keep reminding myself ruthlessness is keep reminding myself ruthlessness is keep reminding myself ruthlessness is pretty much par for the course in the pretty much par for the course in the pretty much par for the course in the power politics game from the beginning power politics game from the beginning power politics game from the beginning of history till like yesterday right of history till like yesterday right of history till like yesterday right there's nothing different about the there's nothing different about the there's nothing different about the ruthlessness so he's a little shocking a ruthlessness so he's a little shocking a ruthlessness so he's a little shocking a ruthless we human beings can be ruthless we human beings can be ruthless we human beings can be sometimes sometimes sometimes but nothing new there what makes this but nothing new there what makes this but nothing new there what makes this successors period so fascinating and successors period so fascinating and successors period so fascinating and interesting and twisty and weird and interesting and twisty and weird and interesting and twisty and weird and different and maybe potentially different and maybe potentially different and maybe potentially upsetting is that all this ruthlessness upsetting is that all this ruthlessness upsetting is that all this ruthlessness is happening between people who know is happening between people who know is happening between people who know each other so well as we said earlier each other so well as we said earlier each other so well as we said earlier there's a web of connection between there's a web of connection between there's a web of connection between these people some of their families go these people some of their families go these people some of their families go back generations some of them were back generations some of them were back generations some of them were toddlers together some of them were in toddlers together some of them were in toddlers together some of them were in class together with Aristotle almost all

class together with Aristotle almost all class together with Aristotle almost all of them with the exception of a few were of them with the exception of a few were of them with the exception of a few were on the the big eastern campaign to on the the big eastern campaign to on the the big eastern campaign to conquer the world with Alexander I mean conquer the world with Alexander I mean conquer the world with Alexander I mean these are people who are closely these are people who are closely these are people who are closely connected on a personal level so it's connected on a personal level so it's connected on a personal level so it's not like you're being ruthless against a not like you're being ruthless against a not like you're being ruthless against a bunch of people you don't know that bunch of people you don't know that bunch of people you don't know that personal angles very strange and you personal angles very strange and you personal angles very strange and you wonder this is the way I always think I wonder this is the way I always think I wonder this is the way I always think I wonder if Ptolemy felt any sort of wonder if Ptolemy felt any sort of wonder if Ptolemy felt any sort of emotional weirdness about if he was I emotional weirdness about if he was I emotional weirdness about if he was I should say disclaimer Ptolemy you might should say disclaimer Ptolemy you might should say disclaimer Ptolemy you might not have done it but the theory is not have done it but the theory is not have done it but the theory is telling me probably did do it he telling me probably did do it he telling me probably did do it he certainly may have had other successors certainly may have had other successors certainly may have had other successors saying yeah could do it um but I mean we saying yeah could do it um but I mean we saying yeah could do it um but I mean we felt any emotional pangs of sentiment at felt any emotional pangs of sentiment at felt any emotional pangs of sentiment at all and if he did you go okay that's all and if he did you go okay that's all and if he did you go okay that's interesting if he didn't that would be interesting if he didn't that would be interesting if he didn't that would be interesting too I can hear one of my interesting too I can hear one of my interesting too I can hear one of my history teachers saying you're putting history teachers saying you're putting history teachers saying you're putting your own cultural relevance into this your own cultural relevance into this your own cultural relevance into this they were raised in a different they were raised in a different they were raised in a different environment they wouldn't have thought environment they wouldn't have thought environment they wouldn't have thought about it the way you thought about it about it the way you thought about it about it the way you thought about it well if that's true and they were able well if that's true and they were able well if that's true and they were able to be that kind of ruthless to people to be that kind of ruthless to people to be that kind of ruthless to people they knew and sometimes cared about they knew and sometimes cared about they knew and sometimes cared about deeply well that's interesting too isn't deeply well that's interesting too isn't deeply well that's interesting too isn't it nonetheless purchases death is part it nonetheless purchases death is part it nonetheless purchases death is part of the first round of culling of these of the first round of culling of these of the first round of culling of these successor bigwigs and he's hardly the successor bigwigs and he's hardly the successor bigwigs and he's hardly the only one there will be a number of major only one there will be a number of major only one there will be a number of major figures taken out in this conflict so in figures taken out in this conflict so in figures taken out in this conflict so in 320 BCE they have to have a conference 320 BCE they have to have a conference 320 BCE they have to have a conference where they all get together again where they all get together again where they all get together again because they got a lot of vacancies and because they got a lot of vacancies and because they got a lot of vacancies and some of the key jobs all right because some of the key jobs all right because some of the key jobs all right because the people are dead now and so they have the people are dead now and so they have the people are dead now and so they have this conference in 320 in Syria I this conference in 320 in Syria I this conference in 320 in Syria I believe where they're gonna believe where they're gonna believe where they're gonna reapportioned the jobs fill these

reapportioned the jobs fill these reapportioned the jobs fill these positions confirm other people in their positions confirm other people in their positions confirm other people in their positions whatever now it's at this positions whatever now it's at this positions whatever now it's at this point that we see another entrance onto point that we see another entrance onto point that we see another entrance onto the history books and you get the sense the history books and you get the sense the history books and you get the sense that she forced her way on this this is that she forced her way on this this is that she forced her way on this this is not something that historians were dying not something that historians were dying not something that historians were dying to find out again to find out again to find out again it's unavoidable and it may explain it's unavoidable and it may explain it's unavoidable and it may explain things a day are you ready key is here things a day are you ready key is here things a day are you ready key is here again she's apparently at this again she's apparently at this again she's apparently at this conference she comes with her husband if conference she comes with her husband if conference she comes with her husband if they're gonna be deciding you know the they're gonna be deciding you know the they're gonna be deciding you know the power situation apparently you know power situation apparently you know power situation apparently you know she's either going to be there or she's either going to be there or she's either going to be there or they're the you know figment of they're the you know figment of they're the you know figment of legitimacy that everyone's hiding behind legitimacy that everyone's hiding behind legitimacy that everyone's hiding behind but she goes out and with these bigwigs but she goes out and with these bigwigs but she goes out and with these bigwigs she's what 17 now she asserts the she's what 17 now she asserts the she's what 17 now she asserts the authority of the the throne demands more authority of the the throne demands more authority of the the throne demands more rights over the Regency that kind of rights over the Regency that kind of rights over the Regency that kind of thing and once again you're sitting here thing and once again you're sitting here thing and once again you're sitting here going Wow then something happens with going Wow then something happens with going Wow then something happens with her you want to talk about powerful her you want to talk about powerful her you want to talk about powerful women and remember with things like this women and remember with things like this women and remember with things like this this long ago you have to read between this long ago you have to read between this long ago you have to read between the lines so you're gonna get separated the lines so you're gonna get separated the lines so you're gonna get separated data points and you have to say to data points and you have to say to data points and you have to say to yourself like an algebra problem if she yourself like an algebra problem if she yourself like an algebra problem if she could do this what might we deduce about could do this what might we deduce about could do this what might we deduce about her right she apparently does something her right she apparently does something her right she apparently does something and it's unclear again that the prompts and it's unclear again that the prompts and it's unclear again that the prompts all kinds of troubles and and reactions all kinds of troubles and and reactions all kinds of troubles and and reactions she somehow gets in front of a large she somehow gets in front of a large she somehow gets in front of a large crowd of soldiers and starts inciting crowd of soldiers and starts inciting crowd of soldiers and starts inciting them at this conference there is them at this conference there is them at this conference there is apparently some sort of cash flow issue apparently some sort of cash flow issue apparently some sort of cash flow issue the soldiers haven't been paid or do the soldiers haven't been paid or do the soldiers haven't been paid or do some money they're angry about it we've some money they're angry about it we've some money they're angry about it we've already pointed out occasions where the already pointed out occasions where the already pointed out occasions where the makedonia makedonia makedonia infantry the rank-and-file can get kind

infantry the rank-and-file can get kind infantry the rank-and-file can get kind of fiery it's not just the ladies in of fiery it's not just the ladies in of fiery it's not just the ladies in this story from the region that can get this story from the region that can get this story from the region that can get that way the makedonia infantry can get that way the makedonia infantry can get that way the makedonia infantry can get a little fiery and she's playing that up a little fiery and she's playing that up a little fiery and she's playing that up she's inciting them one historian I read she's inciting them one historian I read she's inciting them one historian I read said it got to the point where there the said it got to the point where there the said it got to the point where there the the troops were almost ready to start the troops were almost ready to start the troops were almost ready to start lynching their officers or the marshals lynching their officers or the marshals lynching their officers or the marshals or whatnot there were two temporary or whatnot there were two temporary or whatnot there were two temporary people who took purchases job just until people who took purchases job just until people who took purchases job just until they decided something at the conference they decided something at the conference they decided something at the conference and both of them were unable to handle a and both of them were unable to handle a and both of them were unable to handle a day oh you Riddick II if you believe the day oh you Riddick II if you believe the day oh you Riddick II if you believe the sources sort of threw up their hands and sources sort of threw up their hands and sources sort of threw up their hands and didn't know what to do so when I say didn't know what to do so when I say didn't know what to do so when I say connect the data points and realize connect the data points and realize connect the data points and realize what's going on in between who the hell what's going on in between who the hell what's going on in between who the hell can't handle the 17 I mean you say to can't handle the 17 I mean you say to can't handle the 17 I mean you say to yourself how is she already such an yourself how is she already such an yourself how is she already such an issue enter onto the scene and tippet er issue enter onto the scene and tippet er issue enter onto the scene and tippet er Olympius is old enemy the vendor the Olympius is old enemy the vendor the Olympius is old enemy the vendor the head of the vendetta clan the whole head of the vendetta clan the whole head of the vendetta clan the whole thing right he shows up once again we thing right he shows up once again we thing right he shows up once again we imagine in his late 70s here probably imagine in his late 70s here probably imagine in his late 70s here probably and he sort of quells the situation and and he sort of quells the situation and and he sort of quells the situation and it's not easy it's not easy it's not easy historian said it was a um a blend of historian said it was a um a blend of historian said it was a um a blend of firmness and conciliation that helped firmness and conciliation that helped firmness and conciliation that helped get the troops in line again and an get the troops in line again and an get the troops in line again and an tippet are sort of put some muzzle or a tippet are sort of put some muzzle or a tippet are sort of put some muzzle or a straitjacket on a day or you really key straitjacket on a day or you really key straitjacket on a day or you really key for the moment you know throws are off a for the moment you know throws are off a for the moment you know throws are off a Twitter or whatever it is whatever the Twitter or whatever it is whatever the Twitter or whatever it is whatever the ancient equivalent is but it doesn't ancient equivalent is but it doesn't ancient equivalent is but it doesn't sound like it was easy and the fact that sound like it was easy and the fact that sound like it was easy and the fact that he's got to do this once again shows you he's got to do this once again shows you he's got to do this once again shows you that she's a very interesting character that she's a very interesting character that she's a very interesting character right I so to get the feeling like you right I so to get the feeling like you right I so to get the feeling like you know he'd love to have her killed in a know he'd love to have her killed in a know he'd love to have her killed in a different world it would just solve

different world it would just solve different world it would just solve everything but his hands are tied right everything but his hands are tied right everything but his hands are tied right she's got the cloak of invulnerability she's got the cloak of invulnerability she's got the cloak of invulnerability right now and she apparently knows it right now and she apparently knows it right now and she apparently knows it and she's gonna use it antipodal is and she's gonna use it antipodal is and she's gonna use it antipodal is going to be given the top job basically going to be given the top job basically going to be given the top job basically at this conference he's gonna be the guy at this conference he's gonna be the guy at this conference he's gonna be the guy that succeeds Perdiccas which is exactly that succeeds Perdiccas which is exactly that succeeds Perdiccas which is exactly the opposite of what Olympius was hoping the opposite of what Olympius was hoping the opposite of what Olympius was hoping for right her so much of the for right her so much of the for right her so much of the machinations that she's been involved machinations that she's been involved machinations that she's been involved with since her son's death have been with since her son's death have been with since her son's death have been designed to prevent this guy from designed to prevent this guy from designed to prevent this guy from becoming powerful and here he is becoming powerful and here he is becoming powerful and here he is basically now at the top of his of his basically now at the top of his of his basically now at the top of his of his game in his late 70s approaching his game in his late 70s approaching his game in his late 70s approaching his early 80s he will come back to makedonia early 80s he will come back to makedonia early 80s he will come back to makedonia in 320 BCE 319 BCE bringing both Kings in 320 BCE 319 BCE bringing both Kings in 320 BCE 319 BCE bringing both Kings with him Phillip every day as the mascot with him Phillip every day as the mascot with him Phillip every day as the mascot King and Alexander's probably would you King and Alexander's probably would you King and Alexander's probably would you say toddler now Alexander the fourth say toddler now Alexander the fourth say toddler now Alexander the fourth with his mother Alexander's Persian with his mother Alexander's Persian with his mother Alexander's Persian battery and wife essentially and tippet battery and wife essentially and tippet battery and wife essentially and tippet are also now will hold this office of are also now will hold this office of are also now will hold this office of Regent he basically has all of the Regent he basically has all of the Regent he basically has all of the trappings of legitimacy that you could trappings of legitimacy that you could trappings of legitimacy that you could possibly have to be the one who you know possibly have to be the one who you know possibly have to be the one who you know gives orders in Alexander's stead except gives orders in Alexander's stead except gives orders in Alexander's stead except for Alexander's body Ptolemy is of for Alexander's body Ptolemy is of for Alexander's body Ptolemy is of course coveting that at home talking to course coveting that at home talking to course coveting that at home talking to it maybe when no one's looking it maybe when no one's looking it maybe when no one's looking but within tipping are coming back to but within tipping are coming back to but within tipping are coming back to makedonia with this sort of power and makedonia with this sort of power and makedonia with this sort of power and authority it's hard not to see this as authority it's hard not to see this as authority it's hard not to see this as one of the lowest points in Olympia's one of the lowest points in Olympia's one of the lowest points in Olympia's life and maybe she's in great physical life and maybe she's in great physical life and maybe she's in great physical danger here to remember not only did she

danger here to remember not only did she danger here to remember not only did she already have a lot of water under the already have a lot of water under the already have a lot of water under the bridge probably in the relationship with bridge probably in the relationship with bridge probably in the relationship with this guy but she can plausibly be this guy but she can plausibly be this guy but she can plausibly be accused accused accused of setting in motion the wave of of setting in motion the wave of of setting in motion the wave of destruction and Wars and everything destruction and Wars and everything destruction and Wars and everything that's been going on since Alexander that's been going on since Alexander that's been going on since Alexander died so I mean he's got a lot of reasons died so I mean he's got a lot of reasons died so I mean he's got a lot of reasons to want to see her gone it's a time when to want to see her gone it's a time when to want to see her gone it's a time when a person who had devoted their entire a person who had devoted their entire a person who had devoted their entire life to a particular deity might expect life to a particular deity might expect life to a particular deity might expect a little divine intervention and perhaps a little divine intervention and perhaps a little divine intervention and perhaps if you look at things from a magical if you look at things from a magical if you look at things from a magical point of view it's possible that that's point of view it's possible that that's point of view it's possible that that's exactly what she gets here in 319 BCE a exactly what she gets here in 319 BCE a exactly what she gets here in 319 BCE a relatively short time after he arrives relatively short time after he arrives relatively short time after he arrives back in makedonia after being given you back in makedonia after being given you back in makedonia after being given you know the trappings of kurta kisses know the trappings of kurta kisses know the trappings of kurta kisses position and legitimacy and Thibodeaux position and legitimacy and Thibodeaux position and legitimacy and Thibodeaux dies now obviously there's no talk of dies now obviously there's no talk of dies now obviously there's no talk of conspiracy or worries about poison and conspiracy or worries about poison and conspiracy or worries about poison and whatnot here when you're 78 79 80 81 whatnot here when you're 78 79 80 81 whatnot here when you're 78 79 80 81 years old whatever he was people aren't years old whatever he was people aren't years old whatever he was people aren't surprised it's another reason if you're surprised it's another reason if you're surprised it's another reason if you're a person who wants to go tell Olympius a person who wants to go tell Olympius a person who wants to go tell Olympius dog think your God did this he was an dog think your God did this he was an dog think your God did this he was an old man he was bound to kick off old man he was bound to kick off old man he was bound to kick off eventually she might come back with a eventually she might come back with a eventually she might come back with a very plausible reply and say yeah but very plausible reply and say yeah but very plausible reply and say yeah but how do you explain the next part then how do you explain the next part then how do you explain the next part then the next part is that s antipodal a

the next part is that s antipodal a the next part is that s antipodal a dying his son Cassander was supposed to dying his son Cassander was supposed to dying his son Cassander was supposed to be at his side when last we saw be at his side when last we saw be at his side when last we saw Cassander Alexander the Great was Cassander Alexander the Great was Cassander Alexander the Great was beating his head against the wall and he beating his head against the wall and he beating his head against the wall and he was forever traumatized and couldn't was forever traumatized and couldn't was forever traumatized and couldn't walk by a statue of the great figure walk by a statue of the great figure walk by a statue of the great figure without going weak in the knees even without going weak in the knees even without going weak in the knees even decades later we're told Cassander who decades later we're told Cassander who decades later we're told Cassander who might have been the guy that delivered might have been the guy that delivered might have been the guy that delivered the poison to the cupbearer that killed the poison to the cupbearer that killed the poison to the cupbearer that killed Alexander if poison did kill Alexander Alexander if poison did kill Alexander Alexander if poison did kill Alexander Cassandra's by his dad's bedside and Cassandra's by his dad's bedside and Cassandra's by his dad's bedside and clearly expects to be the one who his clearly expects to be the one who his clearly expects to be the one who his dad gives his power and authority to and dad gives his power and authority to and dad gives his power and authority to and the reason you can deduce that is the reason you can deduce that is the reason you can deduce that is because when his dad doesn't do this because when his dad doesn't do this because when his dad doesn't do this Cassander gets pissed runs off and Cassander gets pissed runs off and Cassander gets pissed runs off and immediately starts the second round of immediately starts the second round of immediately starts the second round of the successor war is about 45 minutes the successor war is about 45 minutes the successor war is about 45 minutes after the last round ended you can see after the last round ended you can see after the last round ended you can see why people sometimes like to think of why people sometimes like to think of why people sometimes like to think of them as continuous conflicts them as continuous conflicts them as continuous conflicts now here's the thing had Cassander now here's the thing had Cassander now here's the thing had Cassander gotten the gig from his dad it would gotten the gig from his dad it would gotten the gig from his dad it would have been a disaster for Olympius and have been a disaster for Olympius and have been a disaster for Olympius and her people and that was sort of the one her people and that was sort of the one her people and that was sort of the one you would think was going to get the job you would think was going to get the job you would think was going to get the job so antipodal a have been old and that so antipodal a have been old and that so antipodal a have been old and that might have been expected but the idea might have been expected but the idea might have been expected but the idea that an tippity would hand the Regency that an tippity would hand the Regency that an tippity would hand the Regency over not to a son Cassander but to a over not to a son Cassander but to a over not to a son Cassander but to a person who would end up being close person who would end up being close person who would end up being close enough to Olympius to be on her side enough to Olympius to be on her side enough to Olympius to be on her side well what are the odds of that sometimes well what are the odds of that sometimes well what are the odds of that sometimes it pays to have friends in high places it pays to have friends in high places it pays to have friends in high places she might think I've read some really she might think I've read some really she might think I've read some really good histories though that have really good histories though that have really good histories though that have really good rational explanations for why good rational explanations for why good rational explanations for why interpreter might not have given the job

interpreter might not have given the job interpreter might not have given the job to Cassander the first one and the most to Cassander the first one and the most to Cassander the first one and the most plausible being he may not have seen it plausible being he may not have seen it plausible being he may not have seen it as his job to give it was the syndicate as his job to give it was the syndicate as his job to give it was the syndicate right the other bosses who gave me this right the other bosses who gave me this right the other bosses who gave me this job and and they're the ones who'll job and and they're the ones who'll job and and they're the ones who'll decide who will replace me I read one decide who will replace me I read one decide who will replace me I read one guy who had a great line about wisdom guy who had a great line about wisdom guy who had a great line about wisdom because when you look at the only because when you look at the only because when you look at the only successor who's really gonna come out successor who's really gonna come out successor who's really gonna come out ahead and all these crabs in a bucket ahead and all these crabs in a bucket ahead and all these crabs in a bucket dynamic kind of thing it's gonna be dynamic kind of thing it's gonna be dynamic kind of thing it's gonna be Ptolemy the guy with Alexander's body Ptolemy the guy with Alexander's body Ptolemy the guy with Alexander's body and sometimes there's almost a karmic and sometimes there's almost a karmic and sometimes there's almost a karmic sort of explanation given why he's the sort of explanation given why he's the sort of explanation given why he's the one that chose not to participate in one that chose not to participate in one that chose not to participate in alexandria's so-called funeral games alexandria's so-called funeral games alexandria's so-called funeral games right stayed out of the crabs in the right stayed out of the crabs in the right stayed out of the crabs in the bucket dynamic therefore he survived bucket dynamic therefore he survived bucket dynamic therefore he survived right what's the line from wargames the right what's the line from wargames the right what's the line from wargames the only way to win is not to play Ptolemy only way to win is not to play Ptolemy only way to win is not to play Ptolemy didn't play and maybe antipodean his didn't play and maybe antipodean his didn't play and maybe antipodean his power and authority to his son was power and authority to his son was power and authority to his son was basically asserting that listen son stay basically asserting that listen son stay basically asserting that listen son stay out of this mess and you'll prosper but out of this mess and you'll prosper but out of this mess and you'll prosper but if I give this ring to you they're gonna if I give this ring to you they're gonna if I give this ring to you they're gonna see this as an attempt to create a see this as an attempt to create a see this as an attempt to create a dynasty you're gonna get all those dynasty you're gonna get all those dynasty you're gonna get all those powerful generals combining to take you powerful generals combining to take you powerful generals combining to take you down the way they took down Perdiccas down the way they took down Perdiccas down the way they took down Perdiccas let's just avoid this it will give the let's just avoid this it will give the let's just avoid this it will give the job to good old loyal [ __ ] pecan or job to good old loyal [ __ ] pecan or job to good old loyal [ __ ] pecan or Paulette perk on this is gonna be this Paulette perk on this is gonna be this Paulette perk on this is gonna be this guy this poor prolific on guys a moment guy this poor prolific on guys a moment guy this poor prolific on guys a moment on the world stage he seems like a on the world stage he seems like a on the world stage he seems like a trustworthy not very August general in a trustworthy not very August general in a trustworthy not very August general in a in a room full of really great generals in a room full of really great generals in a room full of really great generals one historian and not very nice way said one historian and not very nice way said one historian and not very nice way said he was a jackal amongst lions the Lions he was a jackal amongst lions the Lions he was a jackal amongst lions the Lions being the great marshals when the bad being the great marshals when the bad being the great marshals when the bad general though is just he's gonna end up

general though is just he's gonna end up general though is just he's gonna end up fighting these other generals and fighting these other generals and fighting these other generals and they're really good so all of his they're really good so all of his they're really good so all of his shortcoming shortcoming shortcoming we'll be exposed and this is where you we'll be exposed and this is where you we'll be exposed and this is where you know if you're having that argument with know if you're having that argument with know if you're having that argument with Olympius trying to explain to her that Olympius trying to explain to her that Olympius trying to explain to her that this is not your god favoring you you this is not your god favoring you you this is not your god favoring you you would come back with yeah well if your would come back with yeah well if your would come back with yeah well if your God was trying to help you out why would God was trying to help you out why would God was trying to help you out why would he saddle you with the pelipper come guy he saddle you with the pelipper come guy he saddle you with the pelipper come guy as your general because that's where as your general because that's where as your general because that's where Olympius is real downsides gonna happen Olympius is real downsides gonna happen Olympius is real downsides gonna happen in his fighting who's he gonna be in his fighting who's he gonna be in his fighting who's he gonna be fighting Cassander what's he gonna be fighting Cassander what's he gonna be fighting Cassander what's he gonna be fighting over which of the two kings fighting over which of the two kings fighting over which of the two kings gets to be the only king you know that gets to be the only king you know that gets to be the only king you know that deal when Alexander died we're gonna deal when Alexander died we're gonna deal when Alexander died we're gonna have two Kingdom they're both gonna be have two Kingdom they're both gonna be have two Kingdom they're both gonna be legitimate we're gonna raise them up legitimate we're gonna raise them up legitimate we're gonna raise them up blah blah blah yeah well that ends here blah blah blah yeah well that ends here blah blah blah yeah well that ends here there's gonna be one King and it's gonna there's gonna be one King and it's gonna there's gonna be one King and it's gonna be figured out who it is over the next be figured out who it is over the next be figured out who it is over the next couple of years it's either gonna be the couple of years it's either gonna be the couple of years it's either gonna be the mascot King Philip aridaias so it's mascot King Philip aridaias so it's mascot King Philip aridaias so it's gonna be the let's call him the toddler gonna be the let's call him the toddler gonna be the let's call him the toddler King Alexander the fourth maybe he's King Alexander the fourth maybe he's King Alexander the fourth maybe he's five years old now so maybe not toddler five years old now so maybe not toddler five years old now so maybe not toddler anymore the representatives of the anymore the representatives of the anymore the representatives of the mascot King are obviously a day ru mascot King are obviously a day ru mascot King are obviously a day ru Riddick II they will hook their wagon Riddick II they will hook their wagon Riddick II they will hook their wagon both sides need military support they both sides need military support they both sides need military support they will hook their wagon to Cassandra's will hook their wagon to Cassandra's will hook their wagon to Cassandra's cause so he's kind of their champion and cause so he's kind of their champion and cause so he's kind of their champion and we don't know yet whether a day.you we don't know yet whether a day.you we don't know yet whether a day.you Riddick he figures that Cassandra is her Riddick he figures that Cassandra is her Riddick he figures that Cassandra is her puppet or whether Cassandra figures puppet or whether Cassandra figures puppet or whether Cassandra figures she's his on the other side you have the she's his on the other side you have the she's his on the other side you have the little kid Alexander the fourth you have little kid Alexander the fourth you have little kid Alexander the fourth you have his mother Alexander's Persian battery his mother Alexander's Persian battery his mother Alexander's Persian battery and wife and wife and wife you have Olympius and you have this you have Olympius and you have this you have Olympius and you have this pelipper con guy he's going to be the pelipper con guy he's going to be the pelipper con guy he's going to be the guy that goes and wrestles with guy that goes and wrestles with guy that goes and wrestles with Cassander all over this theater

Cassander all over this theater Cassander all over this theater militarily and some of Cassandras allies militarily and some of Cassandras allies militarily and some of Cassandras allies and basically lose that's what happens and basically lose that's what happens and basically lose that's what happens they lose everywhere else but there's they lose everywhere else but there's they lose everywhere else but there's going to be a battle that actually going to be a battle that actually going to be a battle that actually physically involves both of our female physically involves both of our female physically involves both of our female champions here on opposite sides I can champions here on opposite sides I can champions here on opposite sides I can tell you with only a little bit of shame tell you with only a little bit of shame tell you with only a little bit of shame that the entire reason I've told you that the entire reason I've told you that the entire reason I've told you this entire story the entire reason I this entire story the entire reason I this entire story the entire reason I would justify the 57 part series on the would justify the 57 part series on the would justify the 57 part series on the cable network that I'd like to do is for cable network that I'd like to do is for cable network that I'd like to do is for this battle on this scene and this battle on this scene and this battle on this scene and unfortunately the ancient sources tell unfortunately the ancient sources tell unfortunately the ancient sources tell you it happened give you like a sentence you it happened give you like a sentence you it happened give you like a sentence or two but they leave out all the juicy or two but they leave out all the juicy or two but they leave out all the juicy drama and color that could be in there drama and color that could be in there drama and color that could be in there so I'll try to fill it in with what so I'll try to fill it in with what so I'll try to fill it in with what little we know what little we know is little we know what little we know is little we know what little we know is already fascinating there's an ancient already fascinating there's an ancient already fascinating there's an ancient historian Duras of Samos historian Duras of Samos historian Duras of Samos he called this battle the first war he called this battle the first war he called this battle the first war between women certainly he is mistaken between women certainly he is mistaken between women certainly he is mistaken because with all of human history because with all of human history because with all of human history there's just too much out there where there's just too much out there where there's just too much out there where you can say reasonably with an odds the you can say reasonably with an odds the you can say reasonably with an odds the odds out there it probably happened odds out there it probably happened odds out there it probably happened before and I always safely say it before and I always safely say it before and I always safely say it probably happened in China before it's a probably happened in China before it's a probably happened in China before it's a safe bet safe bet safe bet but in 317 BCE at one point again but in 317 BCE at one point again but in 317 BCE at one point again there's a lot we don't know there's a lot we don't know there's a lot we don't know dating may be suspect but a day.you dating may be suspect but a day.you dating may be suspect but a day.you Riddick he might have come back to Riddick he might have come back to Riddick he might have come back to makedonia and attempted to sort of just makedonia and attempted to sort of just makedonia and attempted to sort of just dismiss the guy that antipodal left dismiss the guy that antipodal left dismiss the guy that antipodal left everything to sorry I pulled it back on everything to sorry I pulled it back on everything to sorry I pulled it back on we don't need you anymore your services we don't need you anymore your services we don't need you anymore your services are no longer required we're giving it are no longer required we're giving it are no longer required we're giving it to Cassander and Phillip parodius is to Cassander and Phillip parodius is to Cassander and Phillip parodius is gonna be the new king or whatever she gonna be the new king or whatever she gonna be the new king or whatever she said that's so pissed off Olympius that said that's so pissed off Olympius that said that's so pissed off Olympius that Olympius gets an army together most of Olympius gets an army together most of Olympius gets an army together most of them the local levies from her homeland them the local levies from her homeland

them the local levies from her homeland and she may have been ruling her and she may have been ruling her and she may have been ruling her homeland directly at this point by the homeland directly at this point by the homeland directly at this point by the way she'll get her levies together she way she'll get her levies together she way she'll get her levies together she has some makedonia n-- troops both sides has some makedonia n-- troops both sides has some makedonia n-- troops both sides I should point out have makedonia and I should point out have makedonia and I should point out have makedonia and staffs of command officers so they're staffs of command officers so they're staffs of command officers so they're not operating alone there's a group of not operating alone there's a group of not operating alone there's a group of people deciding on strategy and all that people deciding on strategy and all that people deciding on strategy and all that but there will be an encounter at the a but there will be an encounter at the a but there will be an encounter at the a pirate makedonia border between these pirate makedonia border between these pirate makedonia border between these two women at the heads of their armies two women at the heads of their armies two women at the heads of their armies basically sort of let's let's call them basically sort of let's let's call them basically sort of let's let's call them the faces of both sides on one side is a the faces of both sides on one side is a the faces of both sides on one side is a day a you Riddick II with an army with day a you Riddick II with an army with day a you Riddick II with an army with quite a few makedonia ng's on paper this quite a few makedonia ng's on paper this quite a few makedonia ng's on paper this should be the victorious force because should be the victorious force because should be the victorious force because they have the deciding factor right they have the deciding factor right they have the deciding factor right these what are we calling the ancient these what are we calling the ancient these what are we calling the ancient Vermont units these people who conquered Vermont units these people who conquered Vermont units these people who conquered the world or at least a military system the world or at least a military system the world or at least a military system that produced them led by officers lots that produced them led by officers lots that produced them led by officers lots of veterans it's a fearsome force a day of veterans it's a fearsome force a day of veterans it's a fearsome force a day are you Riddick he is dressed like one are you Riddick he is dressed like one are you Riddick he is dressed like one of them in armor with weapons helmet the of them in armor with weapons helmet the of them in armor with weapons helmet the whole she's dressed like a soldier like whole she's dressed like a soldier like whole she's dressed like a soldier like a man and her illyrian heritage is a man and her illyrian heritage is a man and her illyrian heritage is always remarked upon her mother always remarked upon her mother always remarked upon her mother certainly fought and was trained to certainly fought and was trained to certainly fought and was trained to fight may have commanded troops as I fight may have commanded troops as I fight may have commanded troops as I said may have killed a rival queen in said may have killed a rival queen in said may have killed a rival queen in single combat and her mother the single combat and her mother the single combat and her mother the illyrian who marry married Philip the illyrian who marry married Philip the illyrian who marry married Philip the second well it goes without saying she second well it goes without saying she second well it goes without saying she was trained as well was trained as well was trained as well I find this sort of interesting because I find this sort of interesting because I find this sort of interesting because this is a what is she about twenty years

this is a what is she about twenty years this is a what is she about twenty years old now I don't know when her birthday old now I don't know when her birthday old now I don't know when her birthday is but let's say twenty years old today is but let's say twenty years old today is but let's say twenty years old today are you ready ki she's essentially gonna are you ready ki she's essentially gonna are you ready ki she's essentially gonna go out there and and and say to the men go out there and and and say to the men go out there and and and say to the men that she is every bit is able to compete that she is every bit is able to compete that she is every bit is able to compete in their area of power as they are right in their area of power as they are right in their area of power as they are right it's the same attitude that we have it's the same attitude that we have it's the same attitude that we have today today today I know job should be unavailable I'm I know job should be unavailable I'm I know job should be unavailable I'm just as good as you are I can do just as just as good as you are I can do just as just as good as you are I can do just as good of a job as you can right then good of a job as you can right then good of a job as you can right then Olympius is on the other side and she's Olympius is on the other side and she's Olympius is on the other side and she's gonna take it totally sort of a gonna take it totally sort of a gonna take it totally sort of a different standard this is all different standard this is all different standard this is all interpreted through me so I hope you'll interpreted through me so I hope you'll interpreted through me so I hope you'll give me a grain of salt here but but give me a grain of salt here but but give me a grain of salt here but but I'll explain my thinking she doesn't I'll explain my thinking she doesn't I'll explain my thinking she doesn't come out dressed as a warrior she's not come out dressed as a warrior she's not come out dressed as a warrior she's not going to compete and try to be an equal going to compete and try to be an equal going to compete and try to be an equal to the men in their area of power she to the men in their area of power she to the men in their area of power she has her own area of power which she has her own area of power which she has her own area of power which she already has an advantage in fact she's already has an advantage in fact she's already has an advantage in fact she's got a power that nobody can touch out got a power that nobody can touch out got a power that nobody can touch out there and I love it because it's there and I love it because it's there and I love it because it's something where you know I can talk something where you know I can talk something where you know I can talk about these people believe in magic or about these people believe in magic or about these people believe in magic or this or that all I want and make it this or that all I want and make it this or that all I want and make it sound like isn't that silly sound like isn't that silly sound like isn't that silly but Olympius is going to do something at but Olympius is going to do something at but Olympius is going to do something at this battle that is magical and it's not this battle that is magical and it's not this battle that is magical and it's not silly silly silly in fact the consequences of it are in fact the consequences of it are in fact the consequences of it are fearsome and the repercussions are huge fearsome and the repercussions are huge fearsome and the repercussions are huge and if you don't think it's magic or you and if you don't think it's magic or you and if you don't think it's magic or you don't think that that's a word that that don't think that that's a word that that don't think that that's a word that that meets the definition of what we're about meets the definition of what we're about meets the definition of what we're about to see here maybe you have another but to see here maybe you have another but to see here maybe you have another but here's my thinking when these two armies here's my thinking when these two armies here's my thinking when these two armies meet there's going to be quite a bit of meet there's going to be quite a bit of meet there's going to be quite a bit of time where they face off against each time where they face off against each time where they face off against each other this is pretty common in a in a

other this is pretty common in a in a other this is pretty common in a in a field battle a set piece battle from field battle a set piece battle from field battle a set piece battle from these eras now they're not all set peace these eras now they're not all set peace these eras now they're not all set peace battles you have encounter battles you battles you have encounter battles you battles you have encounter battles you have battles that happen between cavalry have battles that happen between cavalry have battles that happen between cavalry forces but when you have these kind of forces but when you have these kind of forces but when you have these kind of battles between sides that have troops battles between sides that have troops battles between sides that have troops that stand shoulder to shoulder in ranks that stand shoulder to shoulder in ranks that stand shoulder to shoulder in ranks it often takes a long time to set up it often takes a long time to set up it often takes a long time to set up think about a parade ground with tens of think about a parade ground with tens of think about a parade ground with tens of thousands or more people you're trying thousands or more people you're trying thousands or more people you're trying to get into the right positions and then to get into the right positions and then to get into the right positions and then maybe the last minutes you go I don't maybe the last minutes you go I don't maybe the last minutes you go I don't want these guys there move them a want these guys there move them a want these guys there move them a hundred yards down that way and then hundred yards down that way and then hundred yards down that way and then move the guys on it I mean there's move the guys on it I mean there's move the guys on it I mean there's finagling sometimes you have light finagling sometimes you have light finagling sometimes you have light troops and skirmishers all around sort troops and skirmishers all around sort troops and skirmishers all around sort of conducting activities and securing of conducting activities and securing of conducting activities and securing views and whatnot but generally these views and whatnot but generally these views and whatnot but generally these two lines of people will have two lines of people will have two lines of people will have time's hours to stare at each other time's hours to stare at each other time's hours to stare at each other across a sort of a no-man's land farther across a sort of a no-man's land farther across a sort of a no-man's land farther than the distance an arrow can be shot than the distance an arrow can be shot than the distance an arrow can be shot that's sort of the point right you're that's sort of the point right you're that's sort of the point right you're just out of range but you can watch each just out of range but you can watch each just out of range but you can watch each other this is something modern soldiery other this is something modern soldiery other this is something modern soldiery really doesn't ever get to do in fact in really doesn't ever get to do in fact in really doesn't ever get to do in fact in combat you're lucky to ever see an enemy combat you're lucky to ever see an enemy combat you're lucky to ever see an enemy sometimes in modern you know any 20th sometimes in modern you know any 20th sometimes in modern you know any 20th century and afterwards sort of combat century and afterwards sort of combat century and afterwards sort of combat cuz the ranges are so far here you get cuz the ranges are so far here you get cuz the ranges are so far here you get to watch and have a look at and monitor to watch and have a look at and monitor to watch and have a look at and monitor your enemy for quite a long time it's your enemy for quite a long time it's your enemy for quite a long time it's why you see so many displays intended to why you see so many displays intended to why you see so many displays intended to intimidate the other side because you intimidate the other side because you intimidate the other side because you have time to do that commanders often have time to do that commanders often have time to do that commanders often dressed quite conspicuously it's a dressed quite conspicuously it's a dressed quite conspicuously it's a trade-off you become a target for the trade-off you become a target for the trade-off you become a target for the enemy when they can easily identify you enemy when they can easily identify you enemy when they can easily identify you but you want your own troops to be able but you want your own troops to be able but you want your own troops to be able to easily identify you because one of to easily identify you because one of to easily identify you because one of the worst things that can happen is for the worst things that can happen is for the worst things that can happen is for a rumor to spread that you're dead or a rumor to spread that you're dead or a rumor to spread that you're dead or something and then everything collapses something and then everything collapses something and then everything collapses and so geez sorry almost happened to

and so geez sorry almost happened to and so geez sorry almost happened to William the Conqueror at the Battle of William the Conqueror at the Battle of William the Conqueror at the Battle of Hastings in 1066 famously so oftentimes Hastings in 1066 famously so oftentimes Hastings in 1066 famously so oftentimes both sides even from across the no-man's both sides even from across the no-man's both sides even from across the no-man's land can pick out and identify figures land can pick out and identify figures land can pick out and identify figures you know on the other side and this is you know on the other side and this is you know on the other side and this is key because the reason a day are you key because the reason a day are you key because the reason a day are you really key is so conspicuously dressed really key is so conspicuously dressed really key is so conspicuously dressed is so that they will know you know who is so that they will know you know who is so that they will know you know who they're up against right this is the they're up against right this is the they're up against right this is the queen i have fo phillip Irenaeus with me queen i have fo phillip Irenaeus with me queen i have fo phillip Irenaeus with me the king philip's son right we're the the king philip's son right we're the the king philip's son right we're the legitimate side on the other side is legitimate side on the other side is legitimate side on the other side is Olympius we are told dressed like a Olympius we are told dressed like a Olympius we are told dressed like a follower of Dionysus maybe like a follower of Dionysus maybe like a follower of Dionysus maybe like a priestess of Dionysus and she plays that priestess of Dionysus and she plays that priestess of Dionysus and she plays that side up she's not wearing armor we're side up she's not wearing armor we're side up she's not wearing armor we're not told exactly what a follower of not told exactly what a follower of not told exactly what a follower of Dionysus and dressed up like that means Dionysus and dressed up like that means Dionysus and dressed up like that means appears as a follower of Dionysus in my appears as a follower of Dionysus in my appears as a follower of Dionysus in my movie I know what it means dye them movie I know what it means dye them movie I know what it means dye them around the hair flowing gown there will around the hair flowing gown there will around the hair flowing gown there will be snakes of course cuz I mean be snakes of course cuz I mean be snakes of course cuz I mean personally I think if you get one snake personally I think if you get one snake personally I think if you get one snake you probably get a package deal you probably get a package deal you probably get a package deal somebody's watching a bunch of snakes somebody's watching a bunch of snakes somebody's watching a bunch of snakes I want my wand with IV wrapped around it I want my wand with IV wrapped around it I want my wand with IV wrapped around it dripping honey whatever but she is dripping honey whatever but she is dripping honey whatever but she is showing up to these people as a showing up to these people as a showing up to these people as a channeler she's a she's an necromancer channeler she's a she's an necromancer channeler she's a she's an necromancer of sorts right she conjures the dead and of sorts right she conjures the dead and of sorts right she conjures the dead and she hasn't had an occasion where she's she hasn't had an occasion where she's she hasn't had an occasion where she's had to do that she's like one of those had to do that she's like one of those had to do that she's like one of those you know fast draw gunmen in the west you know fast draw gunmen in the west you know fast draw gunmen in the west where the where the where the because of their reputation you know how because of their reputation you know how because of their reputation you know how fast they have killed all these men or fast they have killed all these men or fast they have killed all these men or whatever you know who they are you don't whatever you know who they are you don't whatever you know who they are you don't ask you don't give them any trouble you ask you don't give them any trouble you ask you don't give them any trouble you just let their reputation get them what just let their reputation get them what just let their reputation get them what they want but every now and then some they want but every now and then some they want but every now and then some young kid comes into the town and

young kid comes into the town and young kid comes into the town and demands that this guy show him that he's demands that this guy show him that he's demands that this guy show him that he's really as fast as everyone says this is really as fast as everyone says this is really as fast as everyone says this is the time where Olympius has to conjure the time where Olympius has to conjure the time where Olympius has to conjure ghosts because she needs them now and ghosts because she needs them now and ghosts because she needs them now and she needs them in a physical sense in she needs them in a physical sense in she needs them in a physical sense in this battle if you don't believe in this battle if you don't believe in this battle if you don't believe in magic what do you think this is before magic what do you think this is before magic what do you think this is before the battle starts or just as the battle the battle starts or just as the battle the battle starts or just as the battle starts and the two sides are about to starts and the two sides are about to starts and the two sides are about to face off a day are you ready Keyes face off a day are you ready Keyes face off a day are you ready Keyes makedonia enforces lay down their makedonia enforces lay down their makedonia enforces lay down their weapons or they put up their spears or weapons or they put up their spears or weapons or they put up their spears or they send officers out who say we will they send officers out who say we will they send officers out who say we will not fight against the mother of not fight against the mother of not fight against the mother of Alexander the Great and the wife of Alexander the Great and the wife of Alexander the Great and the wife of philip ii and the son of alexander the philip ii and the son of alexander the philip ii and the son of alexander the great we don't know how they and I'm great we don't know how they and I'm great we don't know how they and I'm using air quotes my hands one of my one using air quotes my hands one of my one using air quotes my hands one of my one of my old ancient copies of an ancient of my old ancient copies of an ancient of my old ancient copies of an ancient translation says changed allegiances so translation says changed allegiances so translation says changed allegiances so exactly how it happened isn't known but exactly how it happened isn't known but exactly how it happened isn't known but what is known is Olympius was able to what is known is Olympius was able to what is known is Olympius was able to channel the ghosts in a way that channel the ghosts in a way that channel the ghosts in a way that magically forced the other side to not magically forced the other side to not magically forced the other side to not fight her folks we're talking about a fight her folks we're talking about a fight her folks we're talking about a set piece battle here almost certainly set piece battle here almost certainly set piece battle here almost certainly tens of thousands of troops on each side tens of thousands of troops on each side tens of thousands of troops on each side a massive affair of humanity out there a massive affair of humanity out there a massive affair of humanity out there and when they notice Olympius on the and when they notice Olympius on the and when they notice Olympius on the other side dressed as a follower of other side dressed as a follower of other side dressed as a follower of Dionysus even though they have a queen Dionysus even though they have a queen Dionysus even though they have a queen in their ranks with a son of Philip the in their ranks with a son of Philip the in their ranks with a son of Philip the second they refuse to fight what is that second they refuse to fight what is that second they refuse to fight what is that is that not magic you want an analogy

is that not magic you want an analogy is that not magic you want an analogy there's a famous story about Napoleon there's a famous story about Napoleon there's a famous story about Napoleon and you know Napoleon's the one who they and you know Napoleon's the one who they and you know Napoleon's the one who they said that he was apparently worth his said that he was apparently worth his said that he was apparently worth his presence on the battlefield was worth presence on the battlefield was worth presence on the battlefield was worth I'm going from memory here I think they I'm going from memory here I think they I'm going from memory here I think they said 40,000 men his presence on the said 40,000 men his presence on the said 40,000 men his presence on the battlefield was worth 40,000 men now battlefield was worth 40,000 men now battlefield was worth 40,000 men now they were not talking about his they were not talking about his they were not talking about his strategic brilliance or his tactical strategic brilliance or his tactical strategic brilliance or his tactical ability all that was already baked into ability all that was already baked into ability all that was already baked into the pie that was taken to account right the pie that was taken to account right the pie that was taken to account right the fact that as a commander making the fact that as a commander making the fact that as a commander making plans he would be wonderful when they plans he would be wonderful when they plans he would be wonderful when they said his presence is worth 40,000 men said his presence is worth 40,000 men said his presence is worth 40,000 men they meant because of the man they meant because of the man they meant because of the man the emotional and inspirational ability the emotional and inspirational ability the emotional and inspirational ability it had on his troops that the lift it it had on his troops that the lift it it had on his troops that the lift it gave them the sense that their destiny gave them the sense that their destiny gave them the sense that their destiny was now latched to his destiny and his was now latched to his destiny and his was now latched to his destiny and his destiny was clear right now Alexander destiny was clear right now Alexander destiny was clear right now Alexander case he's a god right in Napoleon's case case he's a god right in Napoleon's case case he's a god right in Napoleon's case well as close as you can get to a God in well as close as you can get to a God in well as close as you can get to a God in that era there's a famous story about that era there's a famous story about that era there's a famous story about Napoleon that after he loses and is Napoleon that after he loses and is Napoleon that after he loses and is exiled for the first time he will exiled for the first time he will exiled for the first time he will famously come back to France famously come back to France famously come back to France unexpectedly with a small bodyguard and unexpectedly with a small bodyguard and unexpectedly with a small bodyguard and he will land and as he advances toward he will land and as he advances toward he will land and as he advances toward Paris he picks up more and more troops Paris he picks up more and more troops Paris he picks up more and more troops along the way and at one point the king along the way and at one point the king along the way and at one point the king desperate to stop him sends out forces desperate to stop him sends out forces desperate to stop him sends out forces you know to sort of end it kill him you know to sort of end it kill him you know to sort of end it kill him whatever it takes with an officer who I whatever it takes with an officer who I whatever it takes with an officer who I believe going from memory here was one believe going from memory here was one believe going from memory here was one of Napoleon's generals and they stopped of Napoleon's generals and they stopped of Napoleon's generals and they stopped him and there's this faceoff where him and there's this faceoff where him and there's this faceoff where they've got the guns pointed at him at they've got the guns pointed at him at they've got the guns pointed at him at least in the movie version of it anyway least in the movie version of it anyway least in the movie version of it anyway you know stand there stop you're under you know stand there stop you're under you know stand there stop you're under arrest whatever it is and Napoleon walks arrest whatever it is and Napoleon walks arrest whatever it is and Napoleon walks out in front of his own bodyguard troops out in front of his own bodyguard troops out in front of his own bodyguard troops and says if you want to kill your

and says if you want to kill your and says if you want to kill your Emperor you know here I am some Emperor you know here I am some Emperor you know here I am some wonderful dramatic move and his forces wonderful dramatic move and his forces wonderful dramatic move and his forces sort of dissolve into puddles of sort of dissolve into puddles of sort of dissolve into puddles of emotional tears drop their guns lift him emotional tears drop their guns lift him emotional tears drop their guns lift him up you know and the march to Paris is on up you know and the march to Paris is on up you know and the march to Paris is on Viva Emperor you know the magic that's Viva Emperor you know the magic that's Viva Emperor you know the magic that's magic folks what that is the ability to magic folks what that is the ability to magic folks what that is the ability to all of a sudden just morph a mass human all of a sudden just morph a mass human all of a sudden just morph a mass human emotional response into a way that emotional response into a way that emotional response into a way that completely changes the dynamics of a completely changes the dynamics of a completely changes the dynamics of a situation in a way that is inexplicable situation in a way that is inexplicable situation in a way that is inexplicable in any other sense how do you explain in any other sense how do you explain in any other sense how do you explain these makedonia enforces who by all these makedonia enforces who by all these makedonia enforces who by all rights should have destroyed Olympia's rights should have destroyed Olympia's rights should have destroyed Olympia's the pirate levies laying down their arms the pirate levies laying down their arms the pirate levies laying down their arms giving her the battle well you can have giving her the battle well you can have giving her the battle well you can have a number of logical explanations for a number of logical explanations for a number of logical explanations for that but I'm just thinking Olympius is that but I'm just thinking Olympius is that but I'm just thinking Olympius is going to go and say what my Irish going to go and say what my Irish going to go and say what my Irish Catholic great-aunt would always say to Catholic great-aunt would always say to Catholic great-aunt would always say to me when I thought I would win these me when I thought I would win these me when I thought I would win these logical arguments with her it's a logical arguments with her it's a logical arguments with her it's a question of faith Dionysus saves her ass question of faith Dionysus saves her ass question of faith Dionysus saves her ass again and delivers into her hands her again and delivers into her hands her again and delivers into her hands her enemies enemies enemies Philip aridaias has captured almost Philip aridaias has captured almost Philip aridaias has captured almost immediately immediately immediately a day are you ready keys soon afterwards a day are you ready keys soon afterwards a day are you ready keys soon afterwards and they fall into Olympia's hands which and they fall into Olympia's hands which and they fall into Olympia's hands which as you already probably know is the as you already probably know is the as you already probably know is the worst place they can be worst place they can be worst place they can be in fairness to her if the shoe had been in fairness to her if the shoe had been in fairness to her if the shoe had been on the other foot she probably would on the other foot she probably would on the other foot she probably would have been doomed as well but the shoes have been doomed as well but the shoes have been doomed as well but the shoes not on the other foot and because of not on the other foot and because of not on the other foot and because of that Philip aridaias and and a day you

that Philip aridaias and and a day you that Philip aridaias and and a day you really are doomed and she mistreats them really are doomed and she mistreats them really are doomed and she mistreats them for a couple of days or a certain period for a couple of days or a certain period for a couple of days or a certain period of time the ancient sources say before of time the ancient sources say before of time the ancient sources say before sending have different sources on this sending have different sources on this sending have different sources on this Thracians they're always poor Thracians Thracians they're always poor Thracians Thracians they're always poor Thracians are always implicated as like the are always implicated as like the are always implicated as like the executioner's are the ones who you get executioner's are the ones who you get executioner's are the ones who you get to do dirty work especially if it's to do dirty work especially if it's to do dirty work especially if it's involves killing a king that you might involves killing a king that you might involves killing a king that you might not think a makedonia n-- would handle not think a makedonia n-- would handle not think a makedonia n-- would handle too well you know you you might think too well you know you you might think too well you know you you might think they might balk at it so instead you they might balk at it so instead you they might balk at it so instead you send the Thracians in there to go do send the Thracians in there to go do send the Thracians in there to go do that olympia supposedly sends Thracians that olympia supposedly sends Thracians that olympia supposedly sends Thracians in to stab philip every day as the in to stab philip every day as the in to stab philip every day as the mascot King to death death by a blade mascot King to death death by a blade mascot King to death death by a blade being the way that these kind of Kings being the way that these kind of Kings being the way that these kind of Kings were supposed to die and then famously were supposed to die and then famously were supposed to die and then famously sending three items to a day a you sending three items to a day a you sending three items to a day a you Riddick II diadora siculus says it was a Riddick II diadora siculus says it was a Riddick II diadora siculus says it was a a noose a sword and some hemlock a noose a sword and some hemlock a noose a sword and some hemlock hemlocks poison basically and this may hemlocks poison basically and this may hemlocks poison basically and this may have been what she did years ago to want have been what she did years ago to want have been what she did years ago to want two Philips wives two it's it's two Philips wives two it's it's two Philips wives two it's it's basically saying you know choose the way basically saying you know choose the way basically saying you know choose the way you want to do this but you know what you want to do this but you know what you want to do this but you know what you have to do and instead we're told you have to do and instead we're told you have to do and instead we're told that she after denouncing Olympius and that she after denouncing Olympius and that she after denouncing Olympius and supposedly Olympius was going to be supposedly Olympius was going to be supposedly Olympius was going to be nicer to her although you know if you nicer to her although you know if you nicer to her although you know if you believe it but she kept saying the believe it but she kept saying the believe it but she kept saying the kingdom is supposed to be mine not yours kingdom is supposed to be mine not yours kingdom is supposed to be mine not yours and so she got mad at her but instead of and so she got mad at her but instead of and so she got mad at her but instead of giving Olympius the satisfaction of giving Olympius the satisfaction of giving Olympius the satisfaction of killing her with one of the things killing her with one of the things killing her with one of the things Olympius gave her she hangs herself with Olympius gave her she hangs herself with Olympius gave her she hangs herself with her girdle were told Olympius and her her girdle were told Olympius and her her girdle were told Olympius and her forces um then sweep into makedonia forces um then sweep into makedonia forces um then sweep into makedonia right the queen is back and she right the queen is back and she right the queen is back and she instantly kills like a hundred of

instantly kills like a hundred of instantly kills like a hundred of Cassandra supporters boom that's some Cassandra supporters boom that's some Cassandra supporters boom that's some bad publicity as Peter Green points out bad publicity as Peter Green points out bad publicity as Peter Green points out and we'll kind of get her in trouble and we'll kind of get her in trouble and we'll kind of get her in trouble with a backlash that's going to come with a backlash that's going to come with a backlash that's going to come back to haunt her pretty much right away back to haunt her pretty much right away back to haunt her pretty much right away that's not all that Olympius did by the that's not all that Olympius did by the that's not all that Olympius did by the way she also gets her hands way she also gets her hands way she also gets her hands on one of Cassandras brothers kills him on one of Cassandras brothers kills him on one of Cassandras brothers kills him she may have she's accused certainly of she may have she's accused certainly of she may have she's accused certainly of going to another of Cassandras brothers going to another of Cassandras brothers going to another of Cassandras brothers the guy who was Alexander's cup bearer the guy who was Alexander's cup bearer the guy who was Alexander's cup bearer and desecrating his grave and maybe and desecrating his grave and maybe and desecrating his grave and maybe scattering the bones out in the open scattering the bones out in the open scattering the bones out in the open which would have been really sacral II which would have been really sacral II which would have been really sacral II just a real religious offence to Greek just a real religious offence to Greek just a real religious offence to Greek and makedonia n-- sensibilities if she and makedonia n-- sensibilities if she and makedonia n-- sensibilities if she did it it's kind of a public statement did it it's kind of a public statement did it it's kind of a public statement though about what she thinks of that though about what she thinks of that though about what she thinks of that family the vendetta continues right and family the vendetta continues right and family the vendetta continues right and your bones will not rest in peace your bones will not rest in peace your bones will not rest in peace Elizabeth Carney had a very interesting Elizabeth Carney had a very interesting Elizabeth Carney had a very interesting line when she pointed out that this is line when she pointed out that this is line when she pointed out that this is exactly the sort of activity that you exactly the sort of activity that you exactly the sort of activity that you would think was designed to bring would think was designed to bring would think was designed to bring Cassander back to makedonia right drop Cassander back to makedonia right drop Cassander back to makedonia right drop everything in greece and come back and everything in greece and come back and everything in greece and come back and deal with this right before she kills deal with this right before she kills deal with this right before she kills more of your supporters but then she more of your supporters but then she more of your supporters but then she points out that when he does just that points out that when he does just that points out that when he does just that neither Olympius nor the guy who looks a neither Olympius nor the guy who looks a neither Olympius nor the guy who looks a little like her puppet general at this little like her puppet general at this little like her puppet general at this point pelipper khan neither one of them point pelipper khan neither one of them point pelipper khan neither one of them seems ready for it Cassandra's conducted seems ready for it Cassandra's conducted seems ready for it Cassandra's conducted all these campaigns relatively all these campaigns relatively all these campaigns relatively brilliantly does so here there's a point brilliantly does so here there's a point brilliantly does so here there's a point where there's a point where the forces where there's a point where the forces where there's a point where the forces of Olympius try to block him like of Olympius try to block him like of Olympius try to block him like pelipper khan's out there with troops pelipper khan's out there with troops pelipper khan's out there with troops they all try to block him and he blocks

they all try to block him and he blocks they all try to block him and he blocks both of them and he goes right for both of them and he goes right for both of them and he goes right for Olympius forces almost as if he knows Olympius forces almost as if he knows Olympius forces almost as if he knows the you know Napoleon is worth 40,000 the you know Napoleon is worth 40,000 the you know Napoleon is worth 40,000 men sort of an equation and realizes to men sort of an equation and realizes to men sort of an equation and realizes to heck with these little forces of troops heck with these little forces of troops heck with these little forces of troops I can deal with it later I can deal with it later I can deal with it later get Olympius she's the dangerous one get Olympius she's the dangerous one get Olympius she's the dangerous one right we said in this story that the right we said in this story that the right we said in this story that the most impressive most dangerous people most impressive most dangerous people most impressive most dangerous people are the ones who are gonna get are the ones who are gonna get are the ones who are gonna get eliminated from these 44 45 year-old eliminated from these 44 45 year-old eliminated from these 44 45 year-old conflict first Olympius is seen by conflict first Olympius is seen by conflict first Olympius is seen by Cassander for what she is she's the only Cassander for what she is she's the only Cassander for what she is she's the only woman you could think of it's in a woman you could think of it's in a woman you could think of it's in a position where she's running makedonia position where she's running makedonia position where she's running makedonia she's got to go he will drive her forces she's got to go he will drive her forces she's got to go he will drive her forces into a town on the coast that is not into a town on the coast that is not into a town on the coast that is not ready for any kind of siege the sources ready for any kind of siege the sources ready for any kind of siege the sources differ some saying she has almost no differ some saying she has almost no differ some saying she has almost no troops with her others saying she's got troops with her others saying she's got troops with her others saying she's got a substantial force so who the heck a substantial force so who the heck a substantial force so who the heck knows the chronology is disputed here knows the chronology is disputed here knows the chronology is disputed here amongst the experts some who think amongst the experts some who think amongst the experts some who think everything kind of collapses very everything kind of collapses very everything kind of collapses very quickly others who think there's like a quickly others who think there's like a quickly others who think there's like a year and a half year and a half year and a half long prolonged siege where people are long prolonged siege where people are long prolonged siege where people are starving you know you can see the bones starving you know you can see the bones starving you know you can see the bones through the ribcage I mean that kind of through the ribcage I mean that kind of through the ribcage I mean that kind of starvation and the chronology is messed starvation and the chronology is messed starvation and the chronology is messed up up up right including when all this goes down right including when all this goes down right including when all this goes down that we're about to talk about now that we're about to talk about now that we're about to talk about now but between 317 and 315 how about we but between 317 and 315 how about we but between 317 and 315 how about we make it safe that way Olympius is walled make it safe that way Olympius is walled make it safe that way Olympius is walled up kind of an under siege in the city up kind of an under siege in the city up kind of an under siege in the city she has to surrender she either gets she has to surrender she either gets she has to surrender she either gets caught while trying to escape by sea and caught while trying to escape by sea and caught while trying to escape by sea and has to surrender or she has a deal where

has to surrender or she has a deal where has to surrender or she has a deal where she turns over the city everybody agrees she turns over the city everybody agrees she turns over the city everybody agrees okay we surrender either one of those okay we surrender either one of those okay we surrender either one of those cases the deal seems to be the same her cases the deal seems to be the same her cases the deal seems to be the same her life is supposed to be spared Cassandra life is supposed to be spared Cassandra life is supposed to be spared Cassandra was supposed to spare her life and and was supposed to spare her life and and was supposed to spare her life and and some other prominent figures lives too some other prominent figures lives too some other prominent figures lives too he will renege on all of those he will renege on all of those he will renege on all of those agreements this is part of what makes agreements this is part of what makes agreements this is part of what makes Cassandra the kind of character he is Cassandra the kind of character he is Cassandra the kind of character he is you simply can't trust him at all and you simply can't trust him at all and you simply can't trust him at all and here's the thing before you judge him here's the thing before you judge him here's the thing before you judge him too harshly you have to go if the shoe too harshly you have to go if the shoe too harshly you have to go if the shoe were on the other foot you know what were on the other foot you know what were on the other foot you know what Olympius have done this she very well Olympius have done this she very well Olympius have done this she very well might have so all these people are might have so all these people are might have so all these people are rather ruthless Olympius gets treated a rather ruthless Olympius gets treated a rather ruthless Olympius gets treated a little unfairly for her ruthlessness little unfairly for her ruthlessness little unfairly for her ruthlessness because it's viewed through the female because it's viewed through the female because it's viewed through the female lens where if she was just another guy lens where if she was just another guy lens where if she was just another guy like Cassandra which she kind of is like Cassandra which she kind of is like Cassandra which she kind of is sometimes might be a little bit sometimes might be a little bit sometimes might be a little bit different in this case the magic is different in this case the magic is different in this case the magic is protecting Olympius apparently even now protecting Olympius apparently even now protecting Olympius apparently even now though because Cassandra's got to figure though because Cassandra's got to figure though because Cassandra's got to figure out a way to kill her he can't really do out a way to kill her he can't really do out a way to kill her he can't really do it in the backroom the way she killed it in the backroom the way she killed it in the backroom the way she killed Philip ER or Deus and those people while Philip ER or Deus and those people while Philip ER or Deus and those people while she had them in custody he might lose she had them in custody he might lose she had them in custody he might lose his head if he did that so he does his head if he did that so he does his head if he did that so he does something that's another typical something that's another typical something that's another typical makedonia thinking tries to make it sort makedonia thinking tries to make it sort makedonia thinking tries to make it sort of public so that everybody's in on this of public so that everybody's in on this of public so that everybody's in on this decision he gets the makedonia gnar me decision he gets the makedonia gnar me decision he gets the makedonia gnar me under very interesting dubious sorts of under very interesting dubious sorts of under very interesting dubious sorts of perhaps tactics to put a death sentence perhaps tactics to put a death sentence perhaps tactics to put a death sentence on her he has people testify about what on her he has people testify about what on her he has people testify about what she did during these purges and all she did during these purges and all she did during these purges and all these kinds of things and then there's a these kinds of things and then there's a these kinds of things and then there's a bunch of stories and I'm sorry I don't bunch of stories and I'm sorry I don't bunch of stories and I'm sorry I don't know one from another in terms of what's know one from another in terms of what's know one from another in terms of what's better been talking about what happened better been talking about what happened better been talking about what happened after the assembly condemns Olympius to after the assembly condemns Olympius to after the assembly condemns Olympius to death Elisabeth Kearney going over a

death Elisabeth Kearney going over a death Elisabeth Kearney going over a bunch of the ancient writers versions of bunch of the ancient writers versions of bunch of the ancient writers versions of this says quote at this point the this says quote at this point the this says quote at this point the accounts diverge they differ about the accounts diverge they differ about the accounts diverge they differ about the context of her death its perpetrators context of her death its perpetrators context of her death its perpetrators and its method and its method and its method palce aeneas simply says the Cassander palce aeneas simply says the Cassander palce aeneas simply says the Cassander turned Olympius over to those makedonia turned Olympius over to those makedonia turned Olympius over to those makedonia pnes who were irritated with her so that pnes who were irritated with her so that pnes who were irritated with her so that she could be stoned to death Justin she could be stoned to death Justin she could be stoned to death Justin complaining that the makedonia pnes had complaining that the makedonia pnes had complaining that the makedonia pnes had forgotten the wealth power and security forgotten the wealth power and security forgotten the wealth power and security that her husband and son had brought that her husband and son had brought that her husband and son had brought them reports that when olympia saw armed them reports that when olympia saw armed them reports that when olympia saw armed men approaching her she went out to meet men approaching her she went out to meet men approaching her she went out to meet them dressed in royal attire and them dressed in royal attire and them dressed in royal attire and supported by two maids this action supported by two maids this action supported by two maids this action surprised her would-be assassins and surprised her would-be assassins and surprised her would-be assassins and reminded them of her former majesty and reminded them of her former majesty and reminded them of her former majesty and the names of all the kings she called to the names of all the kings she called to the names of all the kings she called to mind and they did not kill her instead mind and they did not kill her instead mind and they did not kill her instead Cassander had to send other men to stab Cassander had to send other men to stab Cassander had to send other men to stab her rather than trying to avoid the her rather than trying to avoid the her rather than trying to avoid the sword and its wounds or crying out quote sword and its wounds or crying out quote sword and its wounds or crying out quote endquote like a woman justin claims that endquote like a woman justin claims that endquote like a woman justin claims that Olympius faced death in the manner of Olympius faced death in the manner of Olympius faced death in the manner of brave men in keeping with the glory of brave men in keeping with the glory of brave men in keeping with the glory of her ancient lineage so that quote you her ancient lineage so that quote you her ancient lineage so that quote you could see Alexander even in his dying could see Alexander even in his dying could see Alexander even in his dying mother mother mother end quote Elizabeth Kearney continues end quote Elizabeth Kearney continues end quote Elizabeth Kearney continues quote by going out to meet her killers quote by going out to meet her killers quote by going out to meet her killers justin's Olympius defined her death and justin's Olympius defined her death and justin's Olympius defined her death and rendered it as a kind of forced suicide rendered it as a kind of forced suicide rendered it as a kind of forced suicide since she in effect chose it and chose since she in effect chose it and chose since she in effect chose it and chose to make it a public death end quote

to make it a public death end quote to make it a public death end quote she then goes under reports Theodorus is she then goes under reports Theodorus is she then goes under reports Theodorus is view though when his is a more confusing view though when his is a more confusing view though when his is a more confusing point of view she says but may be closer point of view she says but may be closer point of view she says but may be closer to the mark and it's interesting she to the mark and it's interesting she to the mark and it's interesting she points out that Cassander might have points out that Cassander might have points out that Cassander might have been trying to get Olympius condemned by been trying to get Olympius condemned by been trying to get Olympius condemned by you know this large group of sort of you know this large group of sort of you know this large group of sort of hand-picked people in a hand-picked hand-picked people in a hand-picked hand-picked people in a hand-picked situation so that he had the cloak of situation so that he had the cloak of situation so that he had the cloak of legitimacy around it but prevent her legitimacy around it but prevent her legitimacy around it but prevent her from being able to ever mount a defense from being able to ever mount a defense from being able to ever mount a defense and Carney says it was possible that it and Carney says it was possible that it and Carney says it was possible that it was coming to a situation where she was was coming to a situation where she was was coming to a situation where she was going to have a chance now to give you going to have a chance now to give you going to have a chance now to give you know her to to sense into this whole know her to to sense into this whole know her to to sense into this whole thing at her side of the story and the thing at her side of the story and the thing at her side of the story and the Cassander panicked because if she could Cassander panicked because if she could Cassander panicked because if she could basically think about it Gandalf wise if basically think about it Gandalf wise if basically think about it Gandalf wise if she could utter the spell everybody she could utter the spell everybody she could utter the spell everybody might be transfixed right and so he has might be transfixed right and so he has might be transfixed right and so he has her done away with quietly by relatives her done away with quietly by relatives her done away with quietly by relatives of those of those of those she killed in the purge as a way to she killed in the purge as a way to she killed in the purge as a way to prevent any chance that she could work prevent any chance that she could work prevent any chance that she could work her magic again with the makedonia n-- her magic again with the makedonia n-- her magic again with the makedonia n-- troops or population connie then points troops or population connie then points troops or population connie then points out that if it seems a little out that if it seems a little out that if it seems a little storytelling like if it seems like it's storytelling like if it seems like it's storytelling like if it seems like it's already been written by this storyteller already been written by this storyteller already been written by this storyteller and it's just too it's too good to be and it's just too it's too good to be and it's just too it's too good to be true you'll send the script back to the true you'll send the script back to the true you'll send the script back to the screenwriter Kearney points out there screenwriter Kearney points out there screenwriter Kearney points out there may have been a reason for this in the may have been a reason for this in the may have been a reason for this in the same way that Christianity in Europe in same way that Christianity in Europe in same way that Christianity in Europe in the Middle Ages provides a framework the Middle Ages provides a framework the Middle Ages provides a framework giving people an idea of how to act giving people an idea of how to act giving people an idea of how to act these Homeric stories and legends and

these Homeric stories and legends and these Homeric stories and legends and traditions gave these people an idea how traditions gave these people an idea how traditions gave these people an idea how to act so if it seems like it's right to act so if it seems like it's right to act so if it seems like it's right out of the Iliad that may be because out of the Iliad that may be because out of the Iliad that may be because that's how they saw these circumstances that's how they saw these circumstances that's how they saw these circumstances in terms of how you should act Kearney in terms of how you should act Kearney in terms of how you should act Kearney points out that it's not just Olympius points out that it's not just Olympius points out that it's not just Olympius is death but also a day are you ready is death but also a day are you ready is death but also a day are you ready Keyes that follows this same sort of Keyes that follows this same sort of Keyes that follows this same sort of Homeric sort of feel this storytelling Homeric sort of feel this storytelling Homeric sort of feel this storytelling thing where they seem like heroes in the thing where they seem like heroes in the thing where they seem like heroes in the Iliad and she writes quote in effect Iliad and she writes quote in effect Iliad and she writes quote in effect homer and tragedy gave them a script one homer and tragedy gave them a script one homer and tragedy gave them a script one that was genuinely meaningful to them that was genuinely meaningful to them that was genuinely meaningful to them but also something they could manipulate but also something they could manipulate but also something they could manipulate to their own ends Olympius her daughter to their own ends Olympius her daughter to their own ends Olympius her daughter Cleopatra The Bachelorette and AD AAU Cleopatra The Bachelorette and AD AAU Cleopatra The Bachelorette and AD AAU Riddick II may have done much the same Riddick II may have done much the same Riddick II may have done much the same Olympius believed herself to be a linear Olympius believed herself to be a linear Olympius believed herself to be a linear descendent of both Achilles and Priam descendent of both Achilles and Priam descendent of both Achilles and Priam the heroic tradition gave her a model the heroic tradition gave her a model the heroic tradition gave her a model for how she ought to die and she may for how she ought to die and she may for how she ought to die and she may well have followed it surely she would well have followed it surely she would well have followed it surely she would have thought that her grandeur and have thought that her grandeur and have thought that her grandeur and authority and honor demanded it the authority and honor demanded it the authority and honor demanded it the irony is that Olympius did not die the irony is that Olympius did not die the irony is that Olympius did not die the private appropriately gendered death private appropriately gendered death private appropriately gendered death that she had granted her female enemies that she had granted her female enemies that she had granted her female enemies men killed her with swords perhaps even men killed her with swords perhaps even men killed her with swords perhaps even in public she died the death of a male in public she died the death of a male in public she died the death of a male hero end quote hero end quote hero end quote when Olympius has taken out her grandson when Olympius has taken out her grandson when Olympius has taken out her grandson Alexander the fourth loses his greatest Alexander the fourth loses his greatest Alexander the fourth loses his greatest and most powerful defender and and most powerful defender and and most powerful defender and officially falls under the protection of

officially falls under the protection of officially falls under the protection of Cassander Cassander Cassander so you can see how that's going to go so you can see how that's going to go so you can see how that's going to go he's just licking his lips trying to he's just licking his lips trying to he's just licking his lips trying to decide how long he has to wait before he decide how long he has to wait before he decide how long he has to wait before he can get away with you know maybe just can get away with you know maybe just can get away with you know maybe just being king himself and then doing away being king himself and then doing away being king himself and then doing away with this kid I never liked his dad and with this kid I never liked his dad and with this kid I never liked his dad and he bashed my head against the wall you he bashed my head against the wall you he bashed my head against the wall you know he who laughs last laughs the know he who laughs last laughs the know he who laughs last laughs the loudest Cassander will be responsible loudest Cassander will be responsible loudest Cassander will be responsible for killing Alexander the Great's son for killing Alexander the Great's son for killing Alexander the Great's son Alexander the Great's wife Alexander the Alexander the Great's wife Alexander the Alexander the Great's wife Alexander the Great's mother and of course if you Great's mother and of course if you Great's mother and of course if you believe that one branch of the believe that one branch of the believe that one branch of the conspiracy theories he may have been conspiracy theories he may have been conspiracy theories he may have been involved in killing Alexander the Great involved in killing Alexander the Great involved in killing Alexander the Great himself the only close relative of himself the only close relative of himself the only close relative of Alexander the Great he didn't seem to Alexander the Great he didn't seem to Alexander the Great he didn't seem to want to kill all the time was Alexander want to kill all the time was Alexander want to kill all the time was Alexander the great sister Cleopatra the the great sister Cleopatra the the great sister Cleopatra the Bachelorette he may have gone after her Bachelorette he may have gone after her Bachelorette he may have gone after her hand in marriage at one point because hand in marriage at one point because hand in marriage at one point because she's so damn eligible right so much she's so damn eligible right so much she's so damn eligible right so much legitimacy she's just wouldn't she be a legitimacy she's just wouldn't she be a legitimacy she's just wouldn't she be a prize can you imagine that marriage talk prize can you imagine that marriage talk prize can you imagine that marriage talk about the bad blood at that wedding when about the bad blood at that wedding when about the bad blood at that wedding when those two sides those two families end those two sides those two families end those two sides those two families end up in the same place at the same time up in the same place at the same time up in the same place at the same time and then have one of their massive and then have one of their massive and then have one of their massive drinking contests why alarmed no trouble drinking contests why alarmed no trouble drinking contests why alarmed no trouble at all but Cleopatra will be the close at all but Cleopatra will be the close at all but Cleopatra will be the close relative of Alexander the Great that relative of Alexander the Great that relative of Alexander the Great that Cassandra doesn't kill she's almost too Cassandra doesn't kill she's almost too Cassandra doesn't kill she's almost too dangerous to kill but she's also too dangerous to kill but she's also too dangerous to kill but she's also too dangerous to leave out there running dangerous to leave out there running dangerous to leave out there running around she will find herself for at

around she will find herself for at around she will find herself for at least the last decade of her life under least the last decade of her life under least the last decade of her life under a sort of I read one account that says a sort of I read one account that says a sort of I read one account that says sort of a plush or an honorable house sort of a plush or an honorable house sort of a plush or an honorable house arrest where one of these successor arrest where one of these successor arrest where one of these successor generals just sort of locks her up like generals just sort of locks her up like generals just sort of locks her up like Rapunzel you can't let her out she's Rapunzel you can't let her out she's Rapunzel you can't let her out she's like the typhoid mary of matrimony she like the typhoid mary of matrimony she like the typhoid mary of matrimony she could get out marry some successor and could get out marry some successor and could get out marry some successor and all of a sudden you know you've all of a sudden you know you've all of a sudden you know you've destabilized the entire strategic world destabilized the entire strategic world destabilized the entire strategic world and hundreds of thousands of people and hundreds of thousands of people and hundreds of thousands of people could pay the price for that right could pay the price for that right could pay the price for that right there's a history and she may have been there's a history and she may have been there's a history and she may have been trying to do just that at some point trying to do just that at some point trying to do just that at some point near the end of her life right get out near the end of her life right get out near the end of her life right get out and marry somebody right everybody's and marry somebody right everybody's and marry somebody right everybody's worst figures confirmed she will be worst figures confirmed she will be worst figures confirmed she will be probably quietly assassinated around 308 probably quietly assassinated around 308 probably quietly assassinated around 308 BC BC BC ish and maybe everybody's attention had ish and maybe everybody's attention had ish and maybe everybody's attention had turned and the price for doing something turned and the price for doing something turned and the price for doing something like that had diminished somewhat it's like that had diminished somewhat it's like that had diminished somewhat it's worth noting that the potential value of worth noting that the potential value of worth noting that the potential value of all of Alexander the Great's close all of Alexander the Great's close all of Alexander the Great's close relatives was so high that none of them relatives was so high that none of them relatives was so high that none of them would be allowed to live there is no would be allowed to live there is no would be allowed to live there is no happily ever after in his direct line or happily ever after in his direct line or happily ever after in his direct line or anybody really closely connected to him and listen just to be silly for a minute and listen just to be silly for a minute I don't doubt there's enough residual I don't doubt there's enough residual I don't doubt there's enough residual magic left then if Cassander and these magic left then if Cassander and these magic left then if Cassander and these other successors missed one that if some other successors missed one that if some other successors missed one that if some provable direct descendant of Alexander provable direct descendant of Alexander provable direct descendant of Alexander the Great's family were to show up today the Great's family were to show up today the Great's family were to show up today I think they could win the top job in

I think they could win the top job in I think they could win the top job in Greek or modern Federation of makedonia Greek or modern Federation of makedonia Greek or modern Federation of makedonia politics it's Macedonia actually my politics it's Macedonia actually my politics it's Macedonia actually my point is is I still think there's enough point is is I still think there's enough point is is I still think there's enough residual power today that if somebody residual power today that if somebody residual power today that if somebody showed up with the right pedigree and showed up with the right pedigree and showed up with the right pedigree and could prove it could prove it could prove it they'll still be running the show in they'll still be running the show in they'll still be running the show in that region just goes to show that even that region just goes to show that even that region just goes to show that even after 2,300 years after 2,300 years after 2,300 years the Magic's not all gone yet because the show you just heard wasn't because the show you just heard wasn't long enough and the plane was for that long enough and the plane was for that long enough and the plane was for that should it be about an hour and 15 should it be about an hour and 15 should it be about an hour and 15 minutes so you see about what my failure minutes so you see about what my failure minutes so you see about what my failure rate is timewise but because that wasn't rate is timewise but because that wasn't rate is timewise but because that wasn't long enough let's add a little tag to it long enough let's add a little tag to it long enough let's add a little tag to it and forestall some emails directed at me and forestall some emails directed at me and forestall some emails directed at me because I can already hear you you know because I can already hear you you know because I can already hear you you know from inside my head right now and so from inside my head right now and so from inside my head right now and so rather than send me those emails let me rather than send me those emails let me rather than send me those emails let me answer a few of those questions or deal answer a few of those questions or deal answer a few of those questions or deal with a few of those comments right now with a few of those comments right now with a few of those comments right now first for the many of you who are first for the many of you who are first for the many of you who are sitting there going does this mean sitting there going does this mean sitting there going does this mean there's not going to be another there's not going to be another there's not going to be another supernova in the East episode no it supernova in the East episode no it supernova in the East episode no it means nothing like that part of the means nothing like that part of the means nothing like that part of the reason we have a hardcore history reason we have a hardcore history reason we have a hardcore history addendum feed is so that we can keep the addendum feed is so that we can keep the addendum feed is so that we can keep the other ones sort of pure with what you're other ones sort of pure with what you're other ones sort of pure with what you're waiting for while we can still take waiting for while we can still take waiting for while we can still take historical vacations or do different historical vacations or do different historical vacations or do different things interview shows whatever it might things interview shows whatever it might things interview shows whatever it might be something that doesn't fit on the be something that doesn't fit on the be something that doesn't fit on the other feed this was a chance to take a other feed this was a chance to take a other feed this was a chance to take a little historical vacation to one of my

little historical vacation to one of my little historical vacation to one of my favorite times and places a place I favorite times and places a place I favorite times and places a place I didn't have to read tons of books just didn't have to read tons of books just didn't have to read tons of books just to get enough foundational information to get enough foundational information to get enough foundational information to discuss things halfway rationally I to discuss things halfway rationally I to discuss things halfway rationally I can already hear the many of you who are can already hear the many of you who are can already hear the many of you who are saying that it is irresponsible if a saying that it is irresponsible if a saying that it is irresponsible if a person in my position to cast with person in my position to cast with person in my position to cast with actors and actresses fill up and actors and actresses fill up and actors and actresses fill up and Olympius and not cast alexander it is Olympius and not cast alexander it is Olympius and not cast alexander it is something i wrestled with while i something i wrestled with while i something i wrestled with while i debated how much time i was wasting debated how much time i was wasting debated how much time i was wasting trying to find the right person for trying to find the right person for trying to find the right person for philip and then you think okay you got philip and then you think okay you got philip and then you think okay you got to do well the examiner now - but oh my to do well the examiner now - but oh my to do well the examiner now - but oh my god if Philip was tough god if Philip was tough god if Philip was tough I mean Philips one of those guys I could I mean Philips one of those guys I could I mean Philips one of those guys I could throw somebody out there you could go throw somebody out there you could go throw somebody out there you could go yeah that's kind of interesting yeah that's kind of interesting yeah that's kind of interesting Alexander's a guy you throw your actor Alexander's a guy you throw your actor Alexander's a guy you throw your actor out there you get a punch in the nose out there you get a punch in the nose out there you get a punch in the nose people feel passionate about that and people feel passionate about that and people feel passionate about that and part of the reason it's so tough to part of the reason it's so tough to part of the reason it's so tough to avoid the punch in the nose is that avoid the punch in the nose is that avoid the punch in the nose is that Alexander as we said you can view in so Alexander as we said you can view in so Alexander as we said you can view in so many different ways that the choice of many different ways that the choice of many different ways that the choice of who you want to play him is sort of who you want to play him is sort of who you want to play him is sort of implicitly saying which way you choose implicitly saying which way you choose implicitly saying which way you choose isn't it so I fooled around with it just isn't it so I fooled around with it just isn't it so I fooled around with it just like I did to cast Philips dad by the like I did to cast Philips dad by the like I did to cast Philips dad by the way I was also looking for someone that way I was also looking for someone that way I was also looking for someone that would have just a good dynamic also with would have just a good dynamic also with would have just a good dynamic also with Charles Bronson and Angelina Jolie I Charles Bronson and Angelina Jolie I Charles Bronson and Angelina Jolie I mean you think who fits who creates a mean you think who fits who creates a mean you think who fits who creates a wonderful weird stew there that just wonderful weird stew there that just wonderful weird stew there that just fits well the fits well the fits well the circumstance so don't punch me in the circumstance so don't punch me in the circumstance so don't punch me in the nose I have this terrible problem I nose I have this terrible problem I nose I have this terrible problem I don't know very many actors and don't know very many actors and don't know very many actors and actresses I have an even worse problem I actresses I have an even worse problem I actresses I have an even worse problem I don't know any good actors and actresses don't know any good actors and actresses don't know any good actors and actresses from that part of the world the Balkans from that part of the world the Balkans from that part of the world the Balkans cuz that's who probably should really cuz that's who probably should really cuz that's who probably should really play him so cut me some slack there and

play him so cut me some slack there and play him so cut me some slack there and I'm old and a lot of the people I I'm old and a lot of the people I I'm old and a lot of the people I remember who are gonna be from age 20 to remember who are gonna be from age 20 to remember who are gonna be from age 20 to age 30 to 33 the Alexander lifespan age 30 to 33 the Alexander lifespan age 30 to 33 the Alexander lifespan there that that's the age that actor has there that that's the age that actor has there that that's the age that actor has to play so imagine him in that age she to play so imagine him in that age she to play so imagine him in that age she got to go back to the time machine get got to go back to the time machine get got to go back to the time machine get the actor from them but had come getting the actor from them but had come getting the actor from them but had come getting 35 year old Charles Bronson or something 35 year old Charles Bronson or something 35 year old Charles Bronson or something so the time machine's working Nicolas so the time machine's working Nicolas so the time machine's working Nicolas Cage I know that's bizarre I kept coming Cage I know that's bizarre I kept coming Cage I know that's bizarre I kept coming back to him when I kept looking at the back to him when I kept looking at the back to him when I kept looking at the other people that I was looking at maybe other people that I was looking at maybe other people that I was looking at maybe for the role because nobody's right but for the role because nobody's right but for the role because nobody's right but I have this weird view of Alexander and I have this weird view of Alexander and I have this weird view of Alexander and I need somebody who can sort of go from I need somebody who can sort of go from I need somebody who can sort of go from the one guy before he becomes the guy the one guy before he becomes the guy the one guy before he becomes the guy everyone's bowing to in Asia before he everyone's bowing to in Asia before he everyone's bowing to in Asia before he converts to the megalomania and I just converts to the megalomania and I just converts to the megalomania and I just thought God you need a certain range and thought God you need a certain range and thought God you need a certain range and he has to look the right Nicholas Cage he has to look the right Nicholas Cage he has to look the right Nicholas Cage could be from that region blonde his could be from that region blonde his could be from that region blonde his hair up a little it'll look like he did hair up a little it'll look like he did hair up a little it'll look like he did when he was in those New Wave movies in when he was in those New Wave movies in when he was in those New Wave movies in the early 80s he and Charles Bronson the early 80s he and Charles Bronson the early 80s he and Charles Bronson together in the scenes with that tension together in the scenes with that tension together in the scenes with that tension between them I think would be wonderful between them I think would be wonderful between them I think would be wonderful and he and Angelina Jolie I mean I don't and he and Angelina Jolie I mean I don't and he and Angelina Jolie I mean I don't even have to make up and he script or it even have to make up and he script or it even have to make up and he script or it already seems like it's kind of edible already seems like it's kind of edible already seems like it's kind of edible and weird doesn't it anyway and weird doesn't it anyway and weird doesn't it anyway you know sends your angry emails to Dan you know sends your angry emails to Dan you know sends your angry emails to Dan Carlin that punch in the nose dot face Carlin that punch in the nose dot face Carlin that punch in the nose dot face Eugene Oregon blah blah blah I should Eugene Oregon blah blah blah I should Eugene Oregon blah blah blah I should also point out that the emails that will also point out that the emails that will also point out that the emails that will come to us as they always do with the come to us as they always do with the come to us as they always do with the pronunciation of the word makedonia pronunciation of the word makedonia pronunciation of the word makedonia versus Macedonia I'm just gonna first

versus Macedonia I'm just gonna first versus Macedonia I'm just gonna first all that because we've talked about it all that because we've talked about it all that because we've talked about it endlessly and a bazillion other people endlessly and a bazillion other people endlessly and a bazillion other people have too this is a long-running thing have too this is a long-running thing have too this is a long-running thing folks folks folks I remember thirty years ago I got my I remember thirty years ago I got my I remember thirty years ago I got my first history book that actually didn't first history book that actually didn't first history book that actually didn't even give you the option and used a K even give you the option and used a K even give you the option and used a K instead of a C and it was over those instead of a C and it was over those instead of a C and it was over those step people I like so much the tribe step people I like so much the tribe step people I like so much the tribe this the ski thien's this the ski thien's this the ski thien's we always call them Scythian because we always call them Scythian because we always call them Scythian because that's how it was spelled finally one of that's how it was spelled finally one of that's how it was spelled finally one of these historians just said screw that these historians just said screw that these historians just said screw that and put a k' there because that's the and put a k' there because that's the and put a k' there because that's the I mean they wouldn't know what the word I mean they wouldn't know what the word I mean they wouldn't know what the word Scythian meant probably even in Greece Scythian meant probably even in Greece Scythian meant probably even in Greece today you know I mean it's it's not today you know I mean it's it's not today you know I mean it's it's not that's not how they pronounce it it's that's not how they pronounce it it's that's not how they pronounce it it's part of a change in in the Latin part of a change in in the Latin part of a change in in the Latin language that was done in the in the language that was done in the in the language that was done in the in the late 19th century mostly I mean it's late 19th century mostly I mean it's late 19th century mostly I mean it's this is not this is not some conspiracy this is not this is not some conspiracy this is not this is not some conspiracy think it's not hidden but it it created think it's not hidden but it it created think it's not hidden but it it created a divide between people that learned it a divide between people that learned it a divide between people that learned it one way and don't want to change that's one way and don't want to change that's one way and don't want to change that's fine and people who want to get back to fine and people who want to get back to fine and people who want to get back to a pronunciation more like the original a pronunciation more like the original a pronunciation more like the original or more like it is in most of the world or more like it is in most of the world or more like it is in most of the world today let's be honest most people say today let's be honest most people say today let's be honest most people say makedonia or makedonia Oh Mac Dona I makedonia or makedonia Oh Mac Dona I makedonia or makedonia Oh Mac Dona I mean most people don't say Macedonia and mean most people don't say Macedonia and mean most people don't say Macedonia and most people didn't say Macedonia back most people didn't say Macedonia back most people didn't say Macedonia back then either nobody did of course the then either nobody did of course the then either nobody did of course the problem is is that we're all hypocrites problem is is that we're all hypocrites problem is is that we're all hypocrites on this because while I want to be you on this because while I want to be you on this because while I want to be you know as close and faithful to the know as close and faithful to the know as close and faithful to the original as possible you're not gonna original as possible you're not gonna original as possible you're not gonna see me substituting for Julius Caesar see me substituting for Julius Caesar see me substituting for Julius Caesar Julius kazar although when you think Julius kazar although when you think Julius kazar although when you think about it that is a pretty badass name about it that is a pretty badass name about it that is a pretty badass name for some space alien you know who's for some space alien you know who's for some space alien you know who's conquering things left and right right conquering things left and right right conquering things left and right right oh no you only ask as I was coming you oh no you only ask as I was coming you oh no you only ask as I was coming you know I guess my point is is that I won't know I guess my point is is that I won't know I guess my point is is that I won't say I'm not gonna say kicker Oh instead

say I'm not gonna say kicker Oh instead say I'm not gonna say kicker Oh instead of Cicero and or not.but makedonia seems of Cicero and or not.but makedonia seems of Cicero and or not.but makedonia seems the right thing to do just like skit the right thing to do just like skit the right thing to do just like skit thean seems the right thing to do so thean seems the right thing to do so thean seems the right thing to do so it's a judgment call potato potato it's it's a judgment call potato potato it's it's a judgment call potato potato it's not a mistake it's intended you could not a mistake it's intended you could not a mistake it's intended you could find out stuff about this all over the find out stuff about this all over the find out stuff about this all over the internet though it's been gone on for at internet though it's been gone on for at internet though it's been gone on for at least thirty years finally I was least thirty years finally I was least thirty years finally I was listening to the playback and I did not listening to the playback and I did not listening to the playback and I did not think that I did a good enough job on think that I did a good enough job on think that I did a good enough job on this program I'm usually pretty good this program I'm usually pretty good this program I'm usually pretty good about it of telling you exactly which about it of telling you exactly which about it of telling you exactly which book you know we said which author it book you know we said which author it book you know we said which author it often was in which his story but we often was in which his story but we often was in which his story but we didn't tell you which books we were didn't tell you which books we were didn't tell you which books we were specifically using information from or specifically using information from or specifically using information from or whatnot we were pretty good about the whatnot we were pretty good about the whatnot we were pretty good about the Elizabeth carnie book Olympius which as Elizabeth carnie book Olympius which as Elizabeth carnie book Olympius which as I said you wanna go pick that up if you I said you wanna go pick that up if you I said you wanna go pick that up if you like that stuff she did a great job like that stuff she did a great job like that stuff she did a great job she's become the go-to person on that she's become the go-to person on that she's become the go-to person on that issue at least in English and every book issue at least in English and every book issue at least in English and every book you see that talks about Olympius even you see that talks about Olympius even you see that talks about Olympius even in a tangent kind of way references her in a tangent kind of way references her in a tangent kind of way references her I used two different Peter Green books I used two different Peter Green books I used two different Peter Green books one was Alexander of Macedon 356 to 323 one was Alexander of Macedon 356 to 323 one was Alexander of Macedon 356 to 323 BC a historical biography this is the BC a historical biography this is the BC a historical biography this is the updated it's been updated and updated it's been updated and updated it's been updated and revised several times this one came out revised several times this one came out revised several times this one came out I think in the mid early to mid 1990s I think in the mid early to mid 1990s I think in the mid early to mid 1990s but the original work was in 1970 work but the original work was in 1970 work but the original work was in 1970 work and then of course for those of you who and then of course for those of you who and then of course for those of you who are the Hellenistic junkies the tome for are the Hellenistic junkies the tome for are the Hellenistic junkies the tome for people who are interested in the period people who are interested in the period people who are interested in the period Alexander to Actium the historical Alexander to Actium the historical Alexander to Actium the historical evolution of the Hellenistic age the evolution of the Hellenistic age the evolution of the Hellenistic age the word comprehensive does not do it word comprehensive does not do it word comprehensive does not do it justice and the whole politics and

justice and the whole politics and justice and the whole politics and strategy and and all that kind of stuff strategy and and all that kind of stuff strategy and and all that kind of stuff is just one little chunk of what it is just one little chunk of what it is just one little chunk of what it deals with we also use robbing water deals with we also use robbing water deals with we also use robbing water fields dividing the spoils the war for fields dividing the spoils the war for fields dividing the spoils the war for alexander the great's empire a great alexander the great's empire a great alexander the great's empire a great book I mean he does as good of a job as book I mean he does as good of a job as book I mean he does as good of a job as I think you can do simplifying this I think you can do simplifying this I think you can do simplifying this stuff and bringing out a bunch of the stuff and bringing out a bunch of the stuff and bringing out a bunch of the really interesting aspects because it really interesting aspects because it really interesting aspects because it can get dry if you don't dive in and and can get dry if you don't dive in and and can get dry if you don't dive in and and show the relationships between these show the relationships between these show the relationships between these people and the things that really makes people and the things that really makes people and the things that really makes it really interesting I think he does a it really interesting I think he does a it really interesting I think he does a great job of that we quoted a B Bosworth great job of that we quoted a B Bosworth great job of that we quoted a B Bosworth and that was from his book conquest and and that was from his book conquest and and that was from his book conquest and empire the reign of Alexander the Great empire the reign of Alexander the Great empire the reign of Alexander the Great Bosworth of course one of my he's no Bosworth of course one of my he's no Bosworth of course one of my he's no strand historian one of my favorite um strand historian one of my favorite um strand historian one of my favorite um in terms of he just is his view of in terms of he just is his view of in terms of he just is his view of Alexander the Great is fascinating and Alexander the Great is fascinating and Alexander the Great is fascinating and and perhaps perhaps the right one I mean and perhaps perhaps the right one I mean and perhaps perhaps the right one I mean I sometimes I read his stuff and I go I sometimes I read his stuff and I go I sometimes I read his stuff and I go wow you know that's that could really be wow you know that's that could really be wow you know that's that could really be the way the guy was finally we used the way the guy was finally we used the way the guy was finally we used Richard II Gabriel's book philip ii of Richard II Gabriel's book philip ii of Richard II Gabriel's book philip ii of makedonia greater than alexander for makedonia greater than alexander for makedonia greater than alexander for some of the stuff as well and you know some of the stuff as well and you know some of the stuff as well and you know we always put this stuff in the show we always put this stuff in the show we always put this stuff in the show notes which are on our website at Dan notes which are on our website at Dan notes which are on our website at Dan Carlin com we link these books directly Carlin com we link these books directly Carlin com we link these books directly to a place like an you know major online to a place like an you know major online to a place like an you know major online bookseller where you can buy them you bookseller where you can buy them you bookseller where you can buy them you know right away one-click whatever it is know right away one-click whatever it is know right away one-click whatever it is we encourage you to do so we like books we encourage you to do so we like books we encourage you to do so we like books and we like these people or we wouldn't and we like these people or we wouldn't and we like these people or we wouldn't have use them so if you're thinking have use them so if you're thinking have use them so if you're thinking about buying them we'll go to the about buying them we'll go to the about buying them we'll go to the website and check them out and uh and website and check them out and uh and website and check them out and uh and maybe that would be just the Christmas maybe that would be just the Christmas maybe that would be just the Christmas gift for yourself for next year's

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