What Your Kids Are Told About Evolution, Life's Origins (And What’s Missing)

Well, it's it's really good to be here. Well, it's it's really good to be here. My wife cannot be here today. My wife cannot be here today. My wife cannot be here today. But what I want to do is I want to take But what I want to do is I want to take But what I want to do is I want to take a picture. a picture. a picture. Because she she loves these sort of Because she she loves these sort of Because she she loves these sort of gatherings where ladies get together and gatherings where ladies get together and gatherings where ladies get together and eat and uh eat and uh eat and uh and just laugh together. and just laugh together. and just laugh together. So, let me just So, let me just So, let me just Okay. So, I can show her where I was. Okay. So, I can show her where I was. Okay. So, I can show her where I was. All right. All right. All right. Um Um Um Let me I'd like to to open again in a Let me I'd like to to open again in a Let me I'd like to to open again in a word of prayer. word of prayer. word of prayer. Let's pray. Abba, Abba, I pray the outpouring of the Lord Jesus I pray the outpouring of the Lord Jesus I pray the outpouring of the Lord Jesus Christ in this place. Christ in this place. Christ in this place. I pray, Lord, that you would touch the I pray, Lord, that you would touch the I pray, Lord, that you would touch the hearts hearts hearts of these women here today. of these women here today. of these women here today. Father, that you would give them Father, that you would give them Father, that you would give them you'd give them wisdom and insight you'd give them wisdom and insight you'd give them wisdom and insight for the many times that their children for the many times that their children for the many times that their children and their grandchildren and their grandchildren and their grandchildren and those whom they love would appeal to and those whom they love would appeal to and those whom they love would appeal to them them them and be going through things. Father, I and be going through things. Father, I and be going through things. Father, I pray that you'd give them wisdom because pray that you'd give them wisdom because pray that you'd give them wisdom because of today.

of today. of today. And Lord, I pray that you would touch And Lord, I pray that you would touch And Lord, I pray that you would touch their hearts. their hearts. their hearts. And Father, I ask you that even in this, And Father, I ask you that even in this, And Father, I ask you that even in this, that Jesus Christ would be glorified. that Jesus Christ would be glorified. that Jesus Christ would be glorified. For He is our Lord and our King and for For He is our Lord and our King and for For He is our Lord and our King and for His glory. His glory. His glory. Amen. All right. So, I am going to speak today All right. So, I am going to speak today on the origin of life. When I walked in on the origin of life. When I walked in on the origin of life. When I walked in here, uh there was a woman who here, uh there was a woman who here, uh there was a woman who told me that she thought I was coming to told me that she thought I was coming to told me that she thought I was coming to speak on marriage. So, if you thought I speak on marriage. So, if you thought I speak on marriage. So, if you thought I was coming to speak on marriage, was coming to speak on marriage, was coming to speak on marriage, surprise. Um I have been married almost surprise. Um I have been married almost surprise. Um I have been married almost 44 years. Uh but but I'm no expert on 44 years. Uh but but I'm no expert on 44 years. Uh but but I'm no expert on marriage. I haven't written any books or marriage. I haven't written any books or marriage. I haven't written any books or articles on marriage and uh it's by the articles on marriage and uh it's by the articles on marriage and uh it's by the grace of God that I'm married to the grace of God that I'm married to the grace of God that I'm married to the same woman for 44 years, but I tell you same woman for 44 years, but I tell you same woman for 44 years, but I tell you I love her so much and I love to to be I love her so much and I love to to be I love her so much and I love to to be around her. She just just around her. She just just around her. She just just just a joy to me and she's put up with a just a joy to me and she's put up with a just a joy to me and she's put up with a lot with me. She has. lot with me. She has. lot with me. She has. All right, so why should we even care All right, so why should we even care All right, so why should we even care about the origin of life? Why should we about the origin of life? Why should we about the origin of life? Why should we even care?

even care? even care? You should care, I should care because You should care, I should care because You should care, I should care because people are influenced by this concerning people are influenced by this concerning people are influenced by this concerning their faith. their faith. their faith. Many people leave the faith Many people leave the faith Many people leave the faith because of what they learn in high because of what they learn in high because of what they learn in high schools and colleges concerning the schools and colleges concerning the schools and colleges concerning the origin of life and evolution. Many origin of life and evolution. Many origin of life and evolution. Many people leave the faith. So, if you're people leave the faith. So, if you're people leave the faith. So, if you're not interested in this, you should be not interested in this, you should be not interested in this, you should be because you're going to have to be there because you're going to have to be there because you're going to have to be there to help people through this at times. to help people through this at times. to help people through this at times. And this is why we do this and this is And this is why we do this and this is And this is why we do this and this is why I do this. This is why I talk about why I do this. This is why I talk about why I do this. This is why I talk about this. I don't particularly work in the this. I don't particularly work in the this. I don't particularly work in the research on origin of life. I critique research on origin of life. I critique research on origin of life. I critique it a lot. I've written a couple of it a lot. I've written a couple of it a lot. I've written a couple of articles on it and a few book chapters articles on it and a few book chapters articles on it and a few book chapters critiquing the research on origin of critiquing the research on origin of critiquing the research on origin of life and it will become more clear life and it will become more clear life and it will become more clear today. Well, abiogenesis is the origin today. Well, abiogenesis is the origin today. Well, abiogenesis is the origin of life from non-living matter. To of life from non-living matter. To of life from non-living matter. To construct any convincing theory of construct any convincing theory of construct any convincing theory of abiogenesis, we must take into account abiogenesis, we must take into account abiogenesis, we must take into account the conditions of the earth about 4 the conditions of the earth about 4 the conditions of the earth about 4 billion years ago. This is not my billion years ago. This is not my billion years ago. This is not my definition. This is the textbook definition. This is the textbook definition. This is the textbook definition. This is what your children definition. This is what your children definition. This is what your children will be learning in in in schools. This will be learning in in in schools. This will be learning in in in schools. This is what your grandchildren will be is what your grandchildren will be is what your grandchildren will be learning in schools. This is what is learning in schools. This is what is learning in schools. This is what is going to be confronting us. This is why going to be confronting us. This is why going to be confronting us. This is why we need to care about it.

we need to care about it. we need to care about it. It may not influence you directly, but It may not influence you directly, but It may not influence you directly, but it's going to influence a lot of people it's going to influence a lot of people it's going to influence a lot of people around you. around you. around you. Prebiotically relevant means that we are Prebiotically relevant means that we are Prebiotically relevant means that we are restricted to materials, procedures, and restricted to materials, procedures, and restricted to materials, procedures, and conditions that might have been conditions that might have been conditions that might have been available on an early earth. available on an early earth. available on an early earth. And nobody was present at life's origin, And nobody was present at life's origin, And nobody was present at life's origin, so we'll never know how life originated. so we'll never know how life originated. so we'll never know how life originated. But that's not what we're seeking to But that's not what we're seeking to But that's not what we're seeking to answer. What we are seeking is an answer. What we are seeking is an answer. What we are seeking is an experimentally verifiable hypothesis as experimentally verifiable hypothesis as experimentally verifiable hypothesis as to how life might have originated. to how life might have originated. to how life might have originated. All right, so what's the characteristic All right, so what's the characteristic All right, so what's the characteristic characteristics of life? This is not a characteristics of life? This is not a characteristics of life? This is not a definition of life. The definition of definition of life. The definition of definition of life. The definition of life is probably something better gotten life is probably something better gotten life is probably something better gotten from the Bible. Science does not tell us from the Bible. Science does not tell us from the Bible. Science does not tell us give us a definition of life. Science give us a definition of life. Science give us a definition of life. Science gives us a definition of the gives us a definition of the gives us a definition of the characteristics of life. All living characteristics of life. All living characteristics of life. All living things have these characteristics. things have these characteristics. things have these characteristics. Responsiveness to environment, growth Responsiveness to environment, growth Responsiveness to environment, growth and change, ability to reproduce, have a and change, ability to reproduce, have a and change, ability to reproduce, have a metabolism and breathe, maintain metabolism and breathe, maintain metabolism and breathe, maintain homeostasis, and being made of cells and homeostasis, and being made of cells and homeostasis, and being made of cells and passing traits on to offspring.

passing traits on to offspring. passing traits on to offspring. Homeostasis is a steady internal and Homeostasis is a steady internal and Homeostasis is a steady internal and physical and chemical condition. Those physical and chemical condition. Those physical and chemical condition. Those are the characteristics of life. Again, are the characteristics of life. Again, are the characteristics of life. Again, not my definition. This is the textbook not my definition. This is the textbook not my definition. This is the textbook definition. This is what your children definition. This is what your children definition. This is what your children and your grandchildren will be learning. and your grandchildren will be learning. and your grandchildren will be learning. All right, now I am not here to speak of All right, now I am not here to speak of All right, now I am not here to speak of a God of the gaps. I don't just go and a God of the gaps. I don't just go and a God of the gaps. I don't just go and say, well, say, well, say, well, uh we don't know an answer to something, uh we don't know an answer to something, uh we don't know an answer to something, therefore God did it and I'm happy with therefore God did it and I'm happy with therefore God did it and I'm happy with that. No, as a scientist, I can't do that. No, as a scientist, I can't do that. No, as a scientist, I can't do that because I don't know what we're that because I don't know what we're that because I don't know what we're going to have an answer for in in going to have an answer for in in going to have an answer for in in 500 years. If you had asked somebody 500 500 years. If you had asked somebody 500 500 years. If you had asked somebody 500 years ago, would would humans ever be years ago, would would humans ever be years ago, would would humans ever be able to fly to the moon, land, walk able to fly to the moon, land, walk able to fly to the moon, land, walk around, and come back? They'd be be around, and come back? They'd be be around, and come back? They'd be be like, like, like, "W- what are you talking about? We don't "W- what are you talking about? We don't "W- what are you talking about? We don't We don't even have flight, let alone We don't even have flight, let alone We don't even have flight, let alone space flight. What are you talking space flight. What are you talking space flight. What are you talking about?" Well, in 500 years humanity has about?" Well, in 500 years humanity has about?" Well, in 500 years humanity has come very far. come very far. come very far. So, what So, what So, what we don't understand today doesn't mean we don't understand today doesn't mean we don't understand today doesn't mean that we will never understand it. It that we will never understand it. It that we will never understand it. It just means that that's where we are just means that that's where we are just means that that's where we are today.

today. today. So, I never come in and say, well, I So, I never come in and say, well, I So, I never come in and say, well, I don't understand, therefore I just leave don't understand, therefore I just leave don't understand, therefore I just leave it to God. I can't do that. I'm a it to God. I can't do that. I'm a it to God. I can't do that. I'm a scientist. That's not what I do. scientist. That's not what I do. scientist. That's not what I do. All right, so has the public been misled All right, so has the public been misled All right, so has the public been misled on origin of life? So, a question was on origin of life? So, a question was on origin of life? So, a question was posed to the public under simulation of posed to the public under simulation of posed to the public under simulation of Earth's early atmosphere, scientists Earth's early atmosphere, scientists Earth's early atmosphere, scientists have mixed molecules together in have mixed molecules together in have mixed molecules together in laboratories to produce complex forms laboratories to produce complex forms laboratories to produce complex forms life forms such as frogs. life forms such as frogs. life forms such as frogs. Uh uh Uh uh Uh uh 36% feel that that is true. 63% felt 36% feel that that is true. 63% felt 36% feel that that is true. 63% felt that that was false. that that was false. that that was false. Second question, under simulation of Second question, under simulation of Second question, under simulation of early Earth atmosphere, scientists have early Earth atmosphere, scientists have early Earth atmosphere, scientists have mixed molecules together in laboratories mixed molecules together in laboratories mixed molecules together in laboratories to produce simple single-celled life to produce simple single-celled life to produce simple single-celled life forms such as bacteria. 60 68% of the forms such as bacteria. 60 68% of the forms such as bacteria. 60 68% of the general public feels that that is true. general public feels that that is true. general public feels that that is true. Both of these are false. Nowhere close. Both of these are false. Nowhere close. Both of these are false. Nowhere close. Nowhere close. Nobody has ever made life Nowhere close. Nobody has ever made life Nowhere close. Nobody has ever made life here on Earth. No human being has ever here on Earth. No human being has ever here on Earth. No human being has ever made life, not even close. It's not even made life, not even close. It's not even made life, not even close. It's not even not even close.

not even close. not even close. Nowhere close. Nowhere close. Nowhere close. Most of your children and your Most of your children and your Most of your children and your grandchildren are in this category. The grandchildren are in this category. The grandchildren are in this category. The from the things that they have been from the things that they have been from the things that they have been told, they assume that human beings have told, they assume that human beings have told, they assume that human beings have made life. Not even close. made life. Not even close. made life. Not even close. All right, so who are these people? All right, so who are these people? All right, so who are these people? Well, the average age was 38. Half of Well, the average age was 38. Half of Well, the average age was 38. Half of them male, half female, and 80% of them them male, half female, and 80% of them them male, half female, and 80% of them having college degrees. 80% of them having college degrees. 80% of them having college degrees. 80% of them having college degrees felt that way. having college degrees felt that way. having college degrees felt that way. Many of you may have felt that way. Many of you may have felt that way. Many of you may have felt that way. You'd be you'd be just right in with You'd be you'd be just right in with You'd be you'd be just right in with this lot. this lot. this lot. Molecules don't care about life. They Molecules don't care about life. They Molecules don't care about life. They don't move toward life. They've never don't move toward life. They've never don't move toward life. They've never been wanting to move toward life. They been wanting to move toward life. They been wanting to move toward life. They have no brain. They don't evolve toward have no brain. They don't evolve toward have no brain. They don't evolve toward life. Molecules don't do that. And life. Molecules don't do that. And life. Molecules don't do that. And people have will talk about chemical people have will talk about chemical people have will talk about chemical evolution that that that and and that is evolution that that that and and that is evolution that that that and and that is a misnomer. They don't evolve. They a misnomer. They don't evolve. They a misnomer. They don't evolve. They don't move toward life. Organisms move don't move toward life. Organisms move don't move toward life. Organisms move toward life. Living things want to toward life. Living things want to toward life. Living things want to maintain life. Molecules have no desire maintain life. Molecules have no desire maintain life. Molecules have no desire to move toward life. In fact, it's it's to move toward life. In fact, it's it's to move toward life. In fact, it's it's contra to where they want to be because contra to where they want to be because contra to where they want to be because Uh is a very high energy state, a very Uh is a very high energy state, a very Uh is a very high energy state, a very low-entropy state, meaning that it it's low-entropy state, meaning that it it's low-entropy state, meaning that it it's very very ordered system. Molecules very very ordered system. Molecules very very ordered system. Molecules don't want to move toward order.

don't want to move toward order. don't want to move toward order. Generally, they want to move more toward Generally, they want to move more toward Generally, they want to move more toward disorder. If they move toward order, it disorder. If they move toward order, it disorder. If they move toward order, it is a very simple system like AAAA or is a very simple system like AAAA or is a very simple system like AAAA or ABAB. It is not the order that we have ABAB. It is not the order that we have ABAB. It is not the order that we have in what's called specified complexity in what's called specified complexity in what's called specified complexity for life. Well, what is the state of for life. Well, what is the state of for life. Well, what is the state of origin of life research? What is the origin of life research? What is the origin of life research? What is the state of it? state of it? state of it? Well, nobody has shown a method to make Well, nobody has shown a method to make Well, nobody has shown a method to make the enantiopure versions of the enantiopure versions of the enantiopure versions of carbohydrates, amino acids, nucleotides, carbohydrates, amino acids, nucleotides, carbohydrates, amino acids, nucleotides, or lipids in a prebiotically relevant or lipids in a prebiotically relevant or lipids in a prebiotically relevant manner. These are the four building manner. These are the four building manner. These are the four building blocks of the building blocks, the four blocks of the building blocks, the four blocks of the building blocks, the four basic components that are needed to basic components that are needed to basic components that are needed to construct life, all of life, every bit construct life, all of life, every bit construct life, all of life, every bit of life that we know of has to have of life that we know of has to have of life that we know of has to have carbohydrates, has to have amino acids, carbohydrates, has to have amino acids, carbohydrates, has to have amino acids, has to have nucleotides, which make up has to have nucleotides, which make up has to have nucleotides, which make up the DNA and the the RNA, and has to have the DNA and the the RNA, and has to have the DNA and the the RNA, and has to have lipids, which make up the surrounding lipids, which make up the surrounding lipids, which make up the surrounding structures around cells. Because, structures around cells. Because, structures around cells. Because, remember, one of the definitions of life remember, one of the definitions of life remember, one of the definitions of life is it is made of cells. Everything we is it is made of cells. Everything we is it is made of cells. Everything we know about life, it's made of cells. You know about life, it's made of cells. You know about life, it's made of cells. You have to have these four building blocks have to have these four building blocks have to have these four building blocks of the building blocks. Nobody has ever of the building blocks. Nobody has ever of the building blocks. Nobody has ever made the enantiopure versions.

made the enantiopure versions. made the enantiopure versions. Enantiopure means the the particular Enantiopure means the the particular Enantiopure means the the particular handedness. Everywhere you see a red handedness. Everywhere you see a red handedness. Everywhere you see a red arrow, that means that you can have a arrow, that means that you can have a arrow, that means that you can have a mirror image of that, which is mirror image of that, which is mirror image of that, which is non-superimposable. non-superimposable. non-superimposable. My right hand My right hand My right hand and my left hand are non-superimposable. and my left hand are non-superimposable. and my left hand are non-superimposable. They are mirror images of one another. They are mirror images of one another. They are mirror images of one another. If I were to put my right hand up to a If I were to put my right hand up to a If I were to put my right hand up to a mirror, what I would see is an image mirror, what I would see is an image mirror, what I would see is an image that looks like my left hand. Right? that looks like my left hand. Right? that looks like my left hand. Right? This is why I can't put my right hand This is why I can't put my right hand This is why I can't put my right hand into a left-handed glove, because these into a left-handed glove, because these into a left-handed glove, because these are non-superimposable mirror images. are non-superimposable mirror images. are non-superimposable mirror images. The vast majority of molecules in in The vast majority of molecules in in The vast majority of molecules in in biological systems are handed. They have biological systems are handed. They have biological systems are handed. They have handedness. To us, they they kind of handedness. To us, they they kind of handedness. To us, they they kind of look the same, but they don't look the look the same, but they don't look the look the same, but they don't look the same to each other. They have a mirror same to each other. They have a mirror same to each other. They have a mirror image relationship, and so nobody has image relationship, and so nobody has image relationship, and so nobody has ever made these. ever made these. ever made these. Nobody's ever shown that life could have Nobody's ever shown that life could have Nobody's ever shown that life could have formed with lower enantiomeric XX formed with lower enantiomeric XX formed with lower enantiomeric XX mixtures, therefore therefore mitigating mixtures, therefore therefore mitigating mixtures, therefore therefore mitigating the need for chiral-induced spin the need for chiral-induced spin the need for chiral-induced spin selectivity. So, that's a bunch of selectivity. So, that's a bunch of selectivity. So, that's a bunch of words. What does that mean?

words. What does that mean? words. What does that mean? Some people have said that you didn't Some people have said that you didn't Some people have said that you didn't have to have handed molecules, that have to have handed molecules, that have to have handed molecules, that those came later through an evolutionary those came later through an evolutionary those came later through an evolutionary process. That is wrong. The reason process. That is wrong. The reason process. That is wrong. The reason that's wrong because of a phenomenon that's wrong because of a phenomenon that's wrong because of a phenomenon that we've learned only in the last 25 that we've learned only in the last 25 that we've learned only in the last 25 years, and this is why science is good years, and this is why science is good years, and this is why science is good because it teaches us more and more, and because it teaches us more and more, and because it teaches us more and more, and it defends our case more and more. That it defends our case more and more. That it defends our case more and more. That that chiral-induced spin selectivity is that chiral-induced spin selectivity is that chiral-induced spin selectivity is that is that you can have, for example, that is that you can have, for example, that is that you can have, for example, what this shows is a hydroxyl radical what this shows is a hydroxyl radical what this shows is a hydroxyl radical going down different surfaces in a going down different surfaces in a going down different surfaces in a biological system. You can either get biological system. You can either get biological system. You can either get hydrogen peroxide or oxygen and two hydrogen peroxide or oxygen and two hydrogen peroxide or oxygen and two protons. Now, what that means is that protons. Now, what that means is that protons. Now, what that means is that this chiral environment had to be there this chiral environment had to be there this chiral environment had to be there from the start of life. It's not from the start of life. It's not from the start of life. It's not something that could have been evolved something that could have been evolved something that could have been evolved into. Life had to have started with into. Life had to have started with into. Life had to have started with chirality, this handedness, this mirror chirality, this handedness, this mirror chirality, this handedness, this mirror image difference, or else what would image difference, or else what would image difference, or else what would have happened is any biological system have happened is any biological system have happened is any biological system would have overheated. There is a would have overheated. There is a would have overheated. There is a reason, you know, the the the computer reason, you know, the the the computer reason, you know, the the the computer chip in this computer will get to a chip in this computer will get to a chip in this computer will get to a couple of hundred degrees centigrade. It couple of hundred degrees centigrade. It couple of hundred degrees centigrade. It gets blazing hot.

gets blazing hot. gets blazing hot. Whereas our brains Whereas our brains Whereas our brains will will only put out about about 10 W. will will only put out about about 10 W. will will only put out about about 10 W. So, all the computation that we do with So, all the computation that we do with So, all the computation that we do with our brains is only putting out about 10 our brains is only putting out about 10 our brains is only putting out about 10 W. W. W. starkly different. Why is that? Why can starkly different. Why is that? Why can starkly different. Why is that? Why can we do all these compu- computations and we do all these compu- computations and we do all these compu- computations and not overheat? It's because of not overheat? It's because of not overheat? It's because of chiral-induced spin selectivity, because chiral-induced spin selectivity, because chiral-induced spin selectivity, because our our brains are selecting our our our brains are selecting our our our brains are selecting our biological systems select uh electrons biological systems select uh electrons biological systems select uh electrons that only have the proper spin. that only have the proper spin. that only have the proper spin. Electrons can have spin up or spin down. Electrons can have spin up or spin down. Electrons can have spin up or spin down. If you choose the right spin, you don't If you choose the right spin, you don't If you choose the right spin, you don't get backscattering, and things don't get backscattering, and things don't get backscattering, and things don't heat up so much. We do everything we do heat up so much. We do everything we do heat up so much. We do everything we do in science, we use both spins, and we in science, we use both spins, and we in science, we use both spins, and we generate a lot of heat in the process. generate a lot of heat in the process. generate a lot of heat in the process. We don't know how to control this very We don't know how to control this very We don't know how to control this very well. Biological systems have learned well. Biological systems have learned well. Biological systems have learned how to control this. This is an amazing how to control this. This is an amazing how to control this. This is an amazing amazing creation that we have. And it amazing creation that we have. And it amazing creation that we have. And it learns how to control this and that's learns how to control this and that's learns how to control this and that's why we don't burn up. why we don't burn up. why we don't burn up. Nobody has shown that the mixtures found Nobody has shown that the mixtures found Nobody has shown that the mixtures found in meteorites or interstellar space in meteorites or interstellar space in meteorites or interstellar space could be useful for synthesis. So many could be useful for synthesis. So many could be useful for synthesis. So many people say, "Oh, all those building people say, "Oh, all those building people say, "Oh, all those building blocks of the building blocks, you can blocks of the building blocks, you can blocks of the building blocks, you can find those on meteorites." You find what find those on meteorites." You find what find those on meteorites." You find what they called which called nanograms they called which called nanograms they called which called nanograms nanograms or nanomoles per gram. Very nanograms or nanomoles per gram. Very nanograms or nanomoles per gram. Very very small quantities. And you generally very small quantities. And you generally very small quantities. And you generally find them that they would be totally find them that they would be totally find them that they would be totally unusable because they're in mixtures unusable because they're in mixtures unusable because they're in mixtures that would be unusable. So when anybody that would be unusable. So when anybody that would be unusable. So when anybody tells you, "Well, all of these molecules tells you, "Well, all of these molecules tells you, "Well, all of these molecules could have come from outer space." They could have come from outer space." They could have come from outer space." They are wrong. They are wrong because they are wrong. They are wrong because they are wrong. They are wrong because they are unusable. I'm not the only one are unusable. I'm not the only one are unusable. I'm not the only one saying this. There's other other experts saying this. There's other other experts saying this. There's other other experts say this as well. Nobody has solved the

say this as well. Nobody has solved the say this as well. Nobody has solved the mass transfer problem in chemical mass transfer problem in chemical mass transfer problem in chemical transformations from small molecules to transformations from small molecules to transformations from small molecules to a cell. In other words, how many steps a cell. In other words, how many steps a cell. In other words, how many steps would it take from the small molecules would it take from the small molecules would it take from the small molecules to go into build a cell? to go into build a cell? to go into build a cell? It would take thousands of steps and you It would take thousands of steps and you It would take thousands of steps and you would run out of starting material. So would run out of starting material. So would run out of starting material. So what you do in a laboratory is you look what you do in a laboratory is you look what you do in a laboratory is you look in your notebook and you say, "Well, how in your notebook and you say, "Well, how in your notebook and you say, "Well, how did I make this before? I had optimized did I make this before? I had optimized did I make this before? I had optimized the yield 2 years ago and here's how I the yield 2 years ago and here's how I the yield 2 years ago and here's how I did it. Let me make more material and did it. Let me make more material and did it. Let me make more material and bring it on through." bring it on through." bring it on through." But what happens is that that if this But what happens is that that if this But what happens is that that if this were going along in in just a prebiotic were going along in in just a prebiotic were going along in in just a prebiotic sense, you would run out of material. sense, you would run out of material. sense, you would run out of material. The world would run out of material and The world would run out of material and The world would run out of material and would have to go back and make some would have to go back and make some would have to go back and make some more. Well, how does it go back and make more. Well, how does it go back and make more. Well, how does it go back and make some more if it's gone along for 400 some more if it's gone along for 400 some more if it's gone along for 400 million years and it's run out of million years and it's run out of million years and it's run out of material? It nature doesn't keep a material? It nature doesn't keep a material? It nature doesn't keep a laboratory notebook. It doesn't know how laboratory notebook. It doesn't know how laboratory notebook. It doesn't know how to go back. This is a huge problem. to go back. This is a huge problem. to go back. This is a huge problem. Why don't experts address any of these Why don't experts address any of these Why don't experts address any of these problems? Because they can't. None of problems? Because they can't. None of problems? Because they can't. None of the problems that I am showing you have the problems that I am showing you have the problems that I am showing you have been addressed.

been addressed. been addressed. Nobody solved the amino acid Nobody solved the amino acid Nobody solved the amino acid polymerization problems when bearing polymerization problems when bearing polymerization problems when bearing active side chains. All the ones with a active side chains. All the ones with a active side chains. All the ones with a red circle have an active side chain. red circle have an active side chain. red circle have an active side chain. So, an amino acid has two ends. It has So, an amino acid has two ends. It has So, an amino acid has two ends. It has an amino end and it has a carboxylic an amino end and it has a carboxylic an amino end and it has a carboxylic acid end. Half of the amino acids have acid end. Half of the amino acids have acid end. Half of the amino acids have some active group hanging off some active group hanging off some active group hanging off hanging off of it. And the problem is if hanging off of it. And the problem is if hanging off of it. And the problem is if you want to hook amino acids together, you want to hook amino acids together, you want to hook amino acids together, they don't just hook through these they don't just hook through these they don't just hook through these sides, they hook through the side chain sides, they hook through the side chain sides, they hook through the side chain as well. as well. as well. It's game over. If you were It's game over. If you were It's game over. If you were if if if biological system or if if if if if if biological system or if if if if if if biological system or if if if if if something in nature were trying to if if something in nature were trying to if if something in nature were trying to hook together amino acids, if it did hook together amino acids, if it did hook together amino acids, if it did have the chiral amino acids, it would have the chiral amino acids, it would have the chiral amino acids, it would not be able to do it because the side not be able to do it because the side not be able to do it because the side chains participate. There is no solution chains participate. There is no solution chains participate. There is no solution for this in in the sciences. The things for this in in the sciences. The things for this in in the sciences. The things that I am telling you today break down that I am telling you today break down that I am telling you today break down the barriers. When young people will the barriers. When young people will the barriers. When young people will come to you and they will say, "Hey, my come to you and they will say, "Hey, my come to you and they will say, "Hey, my my teacher said this. My professor said my teacher said this. My professor said my teacher said this. My professor said this." You can show them, you can refer this." You can show them, you can refer this." You can show them, you can refer them back to this video. This video is them back to this video. This video is them back to this video. This video is going to go up on my YouTube channel and going to go up on my YouTube channel and going to go up on my YouTube channel and and it'll go up I'm sure on the church's and it'll go up I'm sure on the church's and it'll go up I'm sure on the church's channel as well. Then you can go back.

channel as well. Then you can go back. channel as well. Then you can go back. All of these are unsolved problems that All of these are unsolved problems that All of these are unsolved problems that would have to be solved if there were a would have to be solved if there were a would have to be solved if there were a materialistic materialistic materialistic method to generate life from non-life. method to generate life from non-life. method to generate life from non-life. They can't even hook two amino acids They can't even hook two amino acids They can't even hook two amino acids together, two amino acids together together, two amino acids together together, two amino acids together without having confliction in the side without having confliction in the side without having confliction in the side chain. This is a challenge that I put chain. This is a challenge that I put chain. This is a challenge that I put out to the entire chemistry community. I out to the entire chemistry community. I out to the entire chemistry community. I said, "I challenge you guys. Let's don't said, "I challenge you guys. Let's don't said, "I challenge you guys. Let's don't even talk about a polypeptide, all your even talk about a polypeptide, all your even talk about a polypeptide, all your proteins and all your ends. Just make a proteins and all your ends. Just make a proteins and all your ends. Just make a dimer. Just hook together aspartic acid dimer. Just hook together aspartic acid dimer. Just hook together aspartic acid and lysine to give this dimer without and lysine to give this dimer without and lysine to give this dimer without this side chain interaction." I said, this side chain interaction." I said, this side chain interaction." I said, "If you can solve this problem, I will "If you can solve this problem, I will "If you can solve this problem, I will stop bothering you about origin of life stop bothering you about origin of life stop bothering you about origin of life and I'll take all my my social media and I'll take all my my social media and I'll take all my my social media content down." content down." content down." Nobody Nobody came forward to solve this Nobody Nobody came forward to solve this Nobody Nobody came forward to solve this problem except YouTubers who got it problem except YouTubers who got it problem except YouTubers who got it wrong. Got it wrong every time. And And wrong. Got it wrong every time. And And wrong. Got it wrong every time. And And And what I did is I called by name 10 And what I did is I called by name 10 And what I did is I called by name 10 experts in the field of origin of life experts in the field of origin of life experts in the field of origin of life and and synthetic chemistry. And I said, and and synthetic chemistry. And I said, and and synthetic chemistry. And I said, "Solve this problem." Nobody came "Solve this problem." Nobody came "Solve this problem." Nobody came forward.

forward. forward. Why? Why? Why? Because it couldn't be solved. Because it couldn't be solved. Because it couldn't be solved. Uh Nobody's solved the nucleotide Uh Nobody's solved the nucleotide Uh Nobody's solved the nucleotide polymerization problem. So, when you polymerization problem. So, when you polymerization problem. So, when you polymerize nucleotides the way they polymerize nucleotides the way they polymerize nucleotides the way they should polymerize together, this is RNA. should polymerize together, this is RNA. should polymerize together, this is RNA. This three prime site has to hook to the This three prime site has to hook to the This three prime site has to hook to the five prime site. This three prime site five prime site. This three prime site five prime site. This three prime site hooks to the five prime site. That's the hooks to the five prime site. That's the hooks to the five prime site. That's the way it hooks up. And so, what I said is, way it hooks up. And so, what I said is, way it hooks up. And so, what I said is, "If you can do this without getting "If you can do this without getting "If you can do this without getting the two prime site and without getting the two prime site and without getting the two prime site and without getting this branching, I'll stop talking about this branching, I'll stop talking about this branching, I'll stop talking about origin of life and leave you guys origin of life and leave you guys origin of life and leave you guys alone." Nobody came forward. Why? alone." Nobody came forward. Why? alone." Nobody came forward. Why? Because there's no way to solve this. Because there's no way to solve this. Because there's no way to solve this. There's no way to solve this. I'm There's no way to solve this. I'm There's no way to solve this. I'm telling you at every step on their telling you at every step on their telling you at every step on their proposals for the origin of life, every proposals for the origin of life, every proposals for the origin of life, every step that a high school teacher will put step that a high school teacher will put step that a high school teacher will put forward to say this is how life formed, forward to say this is how life formed, forward to say this is how life formed, what we are told is that there's a pond what we are told is that there's a pond what we are told is that there's a pond and there were small molecules in it and and there were small molecules in it and and there were small molecules in it and there were lightning strikes on that there were lightning strikes on that there were lightning strikes on that pond and molecules started coming pond and molecules started coming pond and molecules started coming together and formed the first cell. together and formed the first cell. together and formed the first cell. And that cell then formed multicellular And that cell then formed multicellular And that cell then formed multicellular organisms, and those multicellular organisms, and those multicellular organisms, and those multicellular organisms started crawling out of that organisms started crawling out of that organisms started crawling out of that pond. That's called the primordial soup pond. That's called the primordial soup pond. That's called the primordial soup model. That's what we were taught. Do model. That's what we were taught. Do model. That's what we were taught. Do you know where that model came from? It you know where that model came from? It you know where that model came from? It did not come from Charles Darwin. It did not come from Charles Darwin. It did not come from Charles Darwin. It came from the Babylonians thousands of came from the Babylonians thousands of came from the Babylonians thousands of years ago. Their gods also came out of years ago. Their gods also came out of years ago. Their gods also came out of that smelly pond. So, so, are we going that smelly pond. So, so, are we going that smelly pond. So, so, are we going to are we going to take that as well?

to are we going to take that as well? to are we going to take that as well? This is nonsense that these molecules This is nonsense that these molecules This is nonsense that these molecules can come together because you'd have to can come together because you'd have to can come together because you'd have to solve this problem in order to do it. solve this problem in order to do it. solve this problem in order to do it. Nobody's has ever solved the Nobody's has ever solved the Nobody's has ever solved the polymerization problem to stop this this polymerization problem to stop this this polymerization problem to stop this this branching from occurring to even make a branching from occurring to even make a branching from occurring to even make a 200-mer without the branching in the 200-mer without the branching in the 200-mer without the branching in the side chain. All of these have what's side chain. All of these have what's side chain. All of these have what's called a positive free energy, meaning called a positive free energy, meaning called a positive free energy, meaning that they do not want to proceed. They that they do not want to proceed. They that they do not want to proceed. They go back. They go back. go back. They go back. go back. They go back. Uh Uh Uh this is the carbohydrate problem. The this is the carbohydrate problem. The this is the carbohydrate problem. The most complex molecules in our body are most complex molecules in our body are most complex molecules in our body are carbohydrates, the sugar molecules, the carbohydrates, the sugar molecules, the carbohydrates, the sugar molecules, the very things that you're eating right very things that you're eating right very things that you're eating right now. These are the most complex now. These are the most complex now. These are the most complex molecules that and and that's because molecules that and and that's because molecules that and and that's because they have all of these different they have all of these different they have all of these different hydroxyl groups hanging off them. This hydroxyl groups hanging off them. This hydroxyl groups hanging off them. This is a molecule of glucose. is a molecule of glucose. is a molecule of glucose. And and if you just hook together six And and if you just hook together six And and if you just hook together six molecules of glucose, how many molecules of glucose, how many molecules of glucose, how many combinations can you have? Well, here's combinations can you have? Well, here's combinations can you have? Well, here's one, AAAAAA. one, AAAAAA. one, AAAAAA. But it turns out there are 1.2 trillion But it turns out there are 1.2 trillion But it turns out there are 1.2 trillion ways that you could hook together just ways that you could hook together just ways that you could hook together just six glucose molecules. 1.2 trillion ways six glucose molecules. 1.2 trillion ways six glucose molecules. 1.2 trillion ways because each one of these different OHs because each one of these different OHs because each one of these different OHs could hook up to the other ones at could hook up to the other ones at could hook up to the other ones at different things. These can have open different things. These can have open different things. These can have open forms and closed forms, beta alpha forms and closed forms, beta alpha forms and closed forms, beta alpha configuration, five-member rings, configuration, five-member rings, configuration, five-member rings, six-member rings.

six-member rings. six-member rings. If this is wrong, if you get this wrong, If this is wrong, if you get this wrong, If this is wrong, if you get this wrong, life does not exist. Every element that life does not exist. Every element that life does not exist. Every element that we ever go through, every sickness, we ever go through, every sickness, we ever go through, every sickness, every disease we ever have has an every disease we ever have has an every disease we ever have has an associated carbohydrate linkage problem associated carbohydrate linkage problem associated carbohydrate linkage problem with it. When these are hooked up wrong, with it. When these are hooked up wrong, with it. When these are hooked up wrong, the organism dies. the organism dies. the organism dies. It is so important that this is gotten It is so important that this is gotten It is so important that this is gotten right. We have no idea how this could right. We have no idea how this could right. We have no idea how this could have happened in just by a materialistic have happened in just by a materialistic have happened in just by a materialistic model. Never been solved. Why don't the model. Never been solved. Why don't the model. Never been solved. Why don't the experts address this? Because they experts address this? Because they experts address this? Because they can't. There's no solution to this. can't. There's no solution to this. can't. There's no solution to this. They can't even make a disaccharide. They can't even make a disaccharide. They can't even make a disaccharide. Right, so I challenge the community. Right, so I challenge the community. Right, so I challenge the community. Just make a disaccharide with this Just make a disaccharide with this Just make a disaccharide with this particular linkage. From two glucose particular linkage. From two glucose particular linkage. From two glucose molecules, make a diglucose, a molecules, make a diglucose, a molecules, make a diglucose, a disaccharide, hook these two together. disaccharide, hook these two together. disaccharide, hook these two together. Could anybody solve it? Nobody. Nobody Could anybody solve it? Nobody. Nobody Could anybody solve it? Nobody. Nobody came forward to solve it. came forward to solve it. came forward to solve it. What? Nobody solved the the polymer What? Nobody solved the the polymer What? Nobody solved the the polymer stability problem. If you had just a stability problem. If you had just a stability problem. If you had just a very short RNA, one molecule of RNA, how very short RNA, one molecule of RNA, how very short RNA, one molecule of RNA, how long would that last? People will say, long would that last? People will say, long would that last? People will say, "Well, you know, there's billions and "Well, you know, there's billions and "Well, you know, there's billions and billions of years and that solves it.

billions of years and that solves it. billions of years and that solves it. All right, how long would a if an RNA All right, how long would a if an RNA All right, how long would a if an RNA happen to form, which it can't, but if happen to form, which it can't, but if happen to form, which it can't, but if it happened to form, how long would it it happened to form, how long would it it happened to form, how long would it last? It doesn't have billions of years. last? It doesn't have billions of years. last? It doesn't have billions of years. It lasts 4 hours, 4 hours in an aqueous It lasts 4 hours, 4 hours in an aqueous It lasts 4 hours, 4 hours in an aqueous system. system. system. It doesn't have billions of years to It doesn't have billions of years to It doesn't have billions of years to form. Molecules decompose in water. They form. Molecules decompose in water. They form. Molecules decompose in water. They depolymerize. It would fall apart. A depolymerize. It would fall apart. A depolymerize. It would fall apart. A polypeptide, a 200 more polypeptide polypeptide, a 200 more polypeptide polypeptide, a 200 more polypeptide would last 13 days, which is the blink would last 13 days, which is the blink would last 13 days, which is the blink of an eye of an eye of an eye in in in uh prebiotic terms. These in in in uh prebiotic terms. These in in in uh prebiotic terms. These molecules do not survive. This idea that molecules do not survive. This idea that molecules do not survive. This idea that that that uh that this is solved because that that uh that this is solved because that that uh that this is solved because of time is is is crazy because time is of time is is is crazy because time is of time is is is crazy because time is actually the enemy. actually the enemy. actually the enemy. All right, nobody has solved the protein All right, nobody has solved the protein All right, nobody has solved the protein folding problem. So, if you even did folding problem. So, if you even did folding problem. So, if you even did have a polypeptide, how does this fold? have a polypeptide, how does this fold? have a polypeptide, how does this fold? Because what happens is we get these Because what happens is we get these Because what happens is we get these structures and they fold like a structures and they fold like a structures and they fold like a into a certain shape and these are the into a certain shape and these are the into a certain shape and these are the little enzymes that build us. This is little enzymes that build us. This is little enzymes that build us. This is why you eat your kolache this morning why you eat your kolache this morning why you eat your kolache this morning and by this afternoon it'll be a part of and by this afternoon it'll be a part of and by this afternoon it'll be a part of your ear. How did that happen? The your ear. How did that happen? The your ear. How did that happen? The molecules are there's enzymes that molecules are there's enzymes that molecules are there's enzymes that decompose these molecules and then will decompose these molecules and then will decompose these molecules and then will reassemble them at places that are reassemble them at places that are reassemble them at places that are needed. Each one of these enzymes has a needed. Each one of these enzymes has a needed. Each one of these enzymes has a certain shape. We have thousands of certain shape. We have thousands of certain shape. We have thousands of 5,000 enzymes that work in our body that 5,000 enzymes that work in our body that 5,000 enzymes that work in our body that they construct us and keep us alive.

they construct us and keep us alive. they construct us and keep us alive. They need chaperones to help them to They need chaperones to help them to They need chaperones to help them to fold into certain structures. If you fold into certain structures. If you fold into certain structures. If you they're just randomly folding, uh these they're just randomly folding, uh these they're just randomly folding, uh these authors suggested there'd be there there authors suggested there'd be there there authors suggested there'd be there there there there there um there'd be 10 to the 95 possibilities um there'd be 10 to the 95 possibilities um there'd be 10 to the 95 possibilities just with a 100 residue uh polypeptide, just with a 100 residue uh polypeptide, just with a 100 residue uh polypeptide, which is a very short one. They said which is a very short one. They said which is a very short one. They said even if you gave the the the the 14 even if you gave the the the the 14 even if you gave the the the the 14 billion years for the universe, this billion years for the universe, this billion years for the universe, this thing would still be thrashing around thing would still be thrashing around thing would still be thrashing around today. It would not have solved how to today. It would not have solved how to today. It would not have solved how to fold this thing. There's not enough time fold this thing. There's not enough time fold this thing. There's not enough time to solve these. Nobody solved this. to solve these. Nobody solved this. to solve these. Nobody solved this. There's an even bigger problem called There's an even bigger problem called There's an even bigger problem called the Levinthal the Levinthal the Levinthal problem, which is how do the molecules problem, which is how do the molecules problem, which is how do the molecules align next to each other in a simple align next to each other in a simple align next to each other in a simple cell? Even if you take a simple yeast cell? Even if you take a simple yeast cell? Even if you take a simple yeast cell, just the protein-protein cell, just the protein-protein cell, just the protein-protein interactions can align with each other interactions can align with each other interactions can align with each other 10 to the 79 billion ways. This is a one 10 to the 79 billion ways. This is a one 10 to the 79 billion ways. This is a one with 79 billion zeros after it. with 79 billion zeros after it. with 79 billion zeros after it. The number of elemental particles in the The number of elemental particles in the The number of elemental particles in the universe, elemental particles in the universe, elemental particles in the universe, elemental particles in the universe is 10 to the 90. This is a one universe is 10 to the 90. This is a one universe is 10 to the 90. This is a one with 90 zeros after it. This is the with 90 zeros after it. This is the with 90 zeros after it. This is the number of combinations you can have. You number of combinations you can have. You number of combinations you can have. You got to get this thing right. This is got to get this thing right. This is got to get this thing right. This is happens in all our cells and so then happens in all our cells and so then happens in all our cells and so then what happens is when the cell is going what happens is when the cell is going what happens is when the cell is going to divide, it takes these structures and to divide, it takes these structures and to divide, it takes these structures and it moves them to each side of the cell it moves them to each side of the cell it moves them to each side of the cell and then the cell will neck down. Now and then the cell will neck down. Now and then the cell will neck down. Now you have two cells that that that have you have two cells that that that have you have two cells that that that have these structures. So it keeps it keeps these structures. So it keeps it keeps these structures. So it keeps it keeps coming from a parent cell. These things coming from a parent cell. These things coming from a parent cell. These things don't just start on their own. Nobody don't just start on their own. Nobody don't just start on their own. Nobody solved the code problem. We don't know solved the code problem. We don't know solved the code problem. We don't know the code problem. We don't know how to the code problem. We don't know how to the code problem. We don't know how to solve the code. So DNA is the code for solve the code. So DNA is the code for solve the code. So DNA is the code for life. It's the thing it's it's the

life. It's the thing it's it's the life. It's the thing it's it's the blueprint blueprint blueprint for life that that tells us how these for life that that tells us how these for life that that tells us how these enzymes should be built. So DNA enzymes should be built. So DNA enzymes should be built. So DNA transcribes to RNA transcribes to the transcribes to RNA transcribes to the transcribes to RNA transcribes to the building of enzymes which build our building of enzymes which build our building of enzymes which build our bodies. Nobody knows where this code bodies. Nobody knows where this code bodies. Nobody knows where this code came from. Nobody solved this. So I I came from. Nobody solved this. So I I came from. Nobody solved this. So I I challenge him. I said, "Just tell me challenge him. I said, "Just tell me challenge him. I said, "Just tell me where the code came from and I'll stop where the code came from and I'll stop where the code came from and I'll stop talking about origin of life." Nobody talking about origin of life." Nobody talking about origin of life." Nobody knows. knows. knows. Now, nobody's ever made these Now, nobody's ever made these Now, nobody's ever made these structures. The simplest cell. People structures. The simplest cell. People structures. The simplest cell. People say, "Well, the cells must have been say, "Well, the cells must have been say, "Well, the cells must have been really simple back at the origin of really simple back at the origin of really simple back at the origin of life, not like complex cells today." life, not like complex cells today." life, not like complex cells today." Actually, we can find in in the Actually, we can find in in the Actually, we can find in in the geological record, we can find cells, we geological record, we can find cells, we geological record, we can find cells, we can we can find the the the residue of can we can find the the the residue of can we can find the the the residue of cells cells cells that are that have the same complexity that are that have the same complexity that are that have the same complexity as the simplest cells today. In other as the simplest cells today. In other as the simplest cells today. In other words, how simple could a cell be? So So words, how simple could a cell be? So So words, how simple could a cell be? So So biophysicists tell us a simple cell biophysicists tell us a simple cell biophysicists tell us a simple cell could have certain types of machinery. could have certain types of machinery. could have certain types of machinery. The simplest of cell, the minimal gene The simplest of cell, the minimal gene The simplest of cell, the minimal gene set has to have all of these set has to have all of these set has to have all of these substructures in order to survive. How substructures in order to survive. How substructures in order to survive. How many of these substructures have been many of these substructures have been many of these substructures have been made by origin of life chemists in a made by origin of life chemists in a made by origin of life chemists in a prebiotically relevant manner?

prebiotically relevant manner? prebiotically relevant manner? Zero. Zero. Zero. Zero. Has to have all of these. None of Zero. Has to have all of these. None of Zero. Has to have all of these. None of these have been made. Why not? Because these have been made. Why not? Because these have been made. Why not? Because they can't make them. they can't make them. they can't make them. Now, the question to origin of life Now, the question to origin of life Now, the question to origin of life research, assuming you had access to all research, assuming you had access to all research, assuming you had access to all parts in your lab, how would you make parts in your lab, how would you make parts in your lab, how would you make even the simp- simple living cell? So, even the simp- simple living cell? So, even the simp- simple living cell? So, what we can do is you can take a cell. what we can do is you can take a cell. what we can do is you can take a cell. You can take a cell in a modern You can take a cell in a modern You can take a cell in a modern laboratory and you can deconstruct it. laboratory and you can deconstruct it. laboratory and you can deconstruct it. You can put the DNA in one place, the You can put the DNA in one place, the You can put the DNA in one place, the RNA in another, the proteins and the RNA in another, the proteins and the RNA in another, the proteins and the lipids. You can separate it and you can lipids. You can separate it and you can lipids. You can separate it and you can put the ions in another bottle. put the ions in another bottle. put the ions in another bottle. Not under a rock, not in a smelly pond, Not under a rock, not in a smelly pond, Not under a rock, not in a smelly pond, but in your model laboratory, but in your model laboratory, but in your model laboratory, could you put Humpty Dumpty back could you put Humpty Dumpty back could you put Humpty Dumpty back together again? Could you take the together again? Could you take the together again? Could you take the components that we just took out of a components that we just took out of a components that we just took out of a cell and put the cell together? Nobody cell and put the cell together? Nobody cell and put the cell together? Nobody would come forward to say that they would come forward to say that they would come forward to say that they could do that in their modern laboratory could do that in their modern laboratory could do that in their modern laboratory today. today. today. So, are you telling me that somewhere on So, are you telling me that somewhere on So, are you telling me that somewhere on an early Earth, in a puddle somewhere, an early Earth, in a puddle somewhere, an early Earth, in a puddle somewhere, all of these molecular types came all of these molecular types came all of these molecular types came together together together at the same time, in the same place, and at the same time, in the same place, and at the same time, in the same place, and somehow assembled into a cell, and you somehow assembled into a cell, and you somehow assembled into a cell, and you can't do it in your modern laboratory?

can't do it in your modern laboratory? can't do it in your modern laboratory? This is where we are in the state of This is where we are in the state of This is where we are in the state of origin of life. So, how about the origin of life. So, how about the origin of life. So, how about the resurrection of a cell? Because a resurrection of a cell? Because a resurrection of a cell? Because a resurrection must be simpler than a than resurrection must be simpler than a than resurrection must be simpler than a than than a de novo synthesis. In other than a de novo synthesis. In other than a de novo synthesis. In other words, what if we just take a cell that words, what if we just take a cell that words, what if we just take a cell that has just died? Could you bring it back has just died? Could you bring it back has just died? Could you bring it back to life? to life? to life? Nobody can do that. Nobody knows how to Nobody can do that. Nobody knows how to Nobody can do that. Nobody knows how to do that. Nobody's ever resurrected a do that. Nobody's ever resurrected a do that. Nobody's ever resurrected a cell. cell. cell. Never been done. Never been done. Never been done. Never been done. So, this tells you the Never been done. So, this tells you the Never been done. So, this tells you the current state of the origin of life. How current state of the origin of life. How current state of the origin of life. How about How about textbook corruption? about How about textbook corruption? about How about textbook corruption? Well, here's a list of college Well, here's a list of college Well, here's a list of college textbooks, well, intro college level, textbooks, well, intro college level, textbooks, well, intro college level, upper college level, high school and AP upper college level, high school and AP upper college level, high school and AP high school. All All of these textbooks high school. All All of these textbooks high school. All All of these textbooks talk about the primordial soup model. talk about the primordial soup model. talk about the primordial soup model. This is how life formed they will say. This is how life formed they will say. This is how life formed they will say. This is how life formed even upper level This is how life formed even upper level This is how life formed even upper level college advanced graduate classes in college advanced graduate classes in college advanced graduate classes in college still talk about the primordial college still talk about the primordial college still talk about the primordial soup model. It is utter nonsense. Utter soup model. It is utter nonsense. Utter soup model. It is utter nonsense. Utter nonsense.

nonsense. nonsense. And this this is what we're confronted And this this is what we're confronted And this this is what we're confronted with. So has science explained the with. So has science explained the with. So has science explained the origin of life? Not even close. origin of life? Not even close. origin of life? Not even close. Science might explain it someday. I Science might explain it someday. I Science might explain it someday. I cannot stand here as a scientist and say cannot stand here as a scientist and say cannot stand here as a scientist and say that we will never solve this. that we will never solve this. that we will never solve this. All I can say is that we are not even All I can say is that we are not even All I can say is that we are not even close. And you say, "Well, how how do close. And you say, "Well, how how do close. And you say, "Well, how how do you know someone won't solve it you know someone won't solve it you know someone won't solve it tomorrow?" Here's how I know. Because tomorrow?" Here's how I know. Because tomorrow?" Here's how I know. Because we're getting further away from a we're getting further away from a we're getting further away from a solution due to our increased solution due to our increased solution due to our increased realization of the complexity of the realization of the complexity of the realization of the complexity of the cell. The goal posts are moving. Here's cell. The goal posts are moving. Here's cell. The goal posts are moving. Here's how we track our progress in science. how we track our progress in science. how we track our progress in science. Here's my target. Here's my target. Here's my target. Here's where I am. I look at okay, I've Here's where I am. I look at okay, I've Here's where I am. I look at okay, I've gotten closer and closer to just solving gotten closer and closer to just solving gotten closer and closer to just solving this this this solving this problem. But what happens solving this problem. But what happens solving this problem. But what happens every time we think we've moved closer, every time we think we've moved closer, every time we think we've moved closer, this target has moved miles away. this target has moved miles away. this target has moved miles away. Because we learn about the further Because we learn about the further Because we learn about the further complexity of the cell. Not that the complexity of the cell. Not that the complexity of the cell. Not that the cell is evolving, it's because 100 years cell is evolving, it's because 100 years cell is evolving, it's because 100 years ago they thought cells were just a bunch ago they thought cells were just a bunch ago they thought cells were just a bunch of protoplasm. Now we understand that of protoplasm. Now we understand that of protoplasm. Now we understand that cells are like a factory, an amazing cells are like a factory, an amazing cells are like a factory, an amazing factory with levels levels of factory with levels levels of factory with levels levels of communication between them. And and we communication between them. And and we communication between them. And and we for example this interactome problem, for example this interactome problem, for example this interactome problem, this 10 to the 79 billion. This wasn't this 10 to the 79 billion. This wasn't this 10 to the 79 billion. This wasn't even known 20 years ago. So now we got even known 20 years ago. So now we got even known 20 years ago. So now we got to solve that problem, too.

to solve that problem, too. to solve that problem, too. The chiral induced spin selectivity The chiral induced spin selectivity The chiral induced spin selectivity wasn't known until 25 years ago. Now we wasn't known until 25 years ago. Now we wasn't known until 25 years ago. Now we got to solve that one, too. So the got to solve that one, too. So the got to solve that one, too. So the target is moving further away. That's target is moving further away. That's target is moving further away. That's how I know we are nowhere close to how I know we are nowhere close to how I know we are nowhere close to getting this thing solved. That is the getting this thing solved. That is the getting this thing solved. That is the current state of the origin of life current state of the origin of life current state of the origin of life problem. problem. problem. So with that I will just I'm going to So with that I will just I'm going to So with that I will just I'm going to just close by by just giving a brief just close by by just giving a brief just close by by just giving a brief overview of a number of different overview of a number of different overview of a number of different research areas that we work in. This is research areas that we work in. This is research areas that we work in. This is This is like laser-induced graphene. This is like laser-induced graphene. This is like laser-induced graphene. It's a company I started around this. It's a company I started around this. It's a company I started around this. This is where we turn carbohydrates, This is where we turn carbohydrates, This is where we turn carbohydrates, bread, any carbon, coconut shell, uh bread, any carbon, coconut shell, uh bread, any carbon, coconut shell, uh polyamide into graphene. It changes the polyamide into graphene. It changes the polyamide into graphene. It changes the molecular structure wherever a laser molecular structure wherever a laser molecular structure wherever a laser hits it. This is graphene nanoribbons hits it. This is graphene nanoribbons hits it. This is graphene nanoribbons that we're we're doing amazing things that we're we're doing amazing things that we're we're doing amazing things with. This is a This is computer memory with. This is a This is computer memory with. This is a This is computer memory we've built and and this is in a in a we've built and and this is in a in a we've built and and this is in a in a All of these are in companies now. This All of these are in companies now. This All of these are in companies now. This one is in a one is in a one is in a is a public company now. We worked on is a public company now. We worked on is a public company now. We worked on traumatic brain injury and stroke. Um traumatic brain injury and stroke. Um traumatic brain injury and stroke. Um we worked on batteries. I got a battery we worked on batteries. I got a battery we worked on batteries. I got a battery company just on the north side of company just on the north side of company just on the north side of Houston makes batteries. These are Houston makes batteries. These are Houston makes batteries. These are graphene quantum dots that these go into graphene quantum dots that these go into graphene quantum dots that these go into to tagging high-end women's purses and to tagging high-end women's purses and to tagging high-end women's purses and shoes. When you buy something at Neiman shoes. When you buy something at Neiman shoes. When you buy something at Neiman Marcus Marcus Marcus and it was made in Milan, Italy, how do and it was made in Milan, Italy, how do and it was made in Milan, Italy, how do you know it's authentic?

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of a human hair. of a human hair. Uh little little uh molecules that'll Uh little little uh molecules that'll Uh little little uh molecules that'll drill into cells in a big environmental drill into cells in a big environmental drill into cells in a big environmental effort where we're we're pulling metals effort where we're we're pulling metals effort where we're we're pulling metals out of waste. So, here here's a list of out of waste. So, here here's a list of out of waste. So, here here's a list of the the the the 17 companies we started in the past the 17 companies we started in the past the 17 companies we started in the past 11 years. Um three of these are now 11 years. Um three of these are now 11 years. Um three of these are now public companies, but they they they public companies, but they they they public companies, but they they they they span uh you know, from medicine to they span uh you know, from medicine to they span uh you know, from medicine to electronics to memory to to computer electronics to memory to to computer electronics to memory to to computer chips and and uh and and and energy chips and and uh and and and energy chips and and uh and and and energy things like that. things like that. things like that. So, with that, uh let me just have an So, with that, uh let me just have an So, with that, uh let me just have an invitation. If there's anybody here just invitation. If there's anybody here just invitation. If there's anybody here just that does not believe in the physical that does not believe in the physical that does not believe in the physical resurrection of Jesus Christ, if that's not something that that that if that's not something that that that that you believe that Jesus has that you believe that Jesus has that you believe that Jesus has physically risen from the dead, I'm physically risen from the dead, I'm physically risen from the dead, I'm willing to meet with you for 1 hour. We willing to meet with you for 1 hour. We willing to meet with you for 1 hour. We do it by Zoom, we can do it in person. do it by Zoom, we can do it in person. do it by Zoom, we can do it in person. You send an email to You send an email to You send an email to [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] and I will meet with you. If I go a week and I will meet with you. If I go a week and I will meet with you. If I go a week without leading somebody to the Lord without leading somebody to the Lord without leading somebody to the Lord through this type of meeting with people through this type of meeting with people through this type of meeting with people one-on-one, it is a wasted week for me, one-on-one, it is a wasted week for me, one-on-one, it is a wasted week for me, an absolute wasted week. So, I deal with an absolute wasted week. So, I deal with an absolute wasted week. So, I deal with students, I deal with faculty members, I students, I deal with faculty members, I students, I deal with faculty members, I deal with people all over the world. I deal with people all over the world. I deal with people all over the world. I advertise this all over.

advertise this all over. advertise this all over. This is not for people that know that This is not for people that know that This is not for people that know that This is not for people that believe in This is not for people that believe in This is not for people that believe in the resurrection of Jesus Christ, but the resurrection of Jesus Christ, but the resurrection of Jesus Christ, but they just want to see how I do it. This they just want to see how I do it. This they just want to see how I do it. This is not for that. I don't have time for is not for that. I don't have time for is not for that. I don't have time for that. This is for people who don't that. This is for people who don't that. This is for people who don't believe. Now, if you have a son, a believe. Now, if you have a son, a believe. Now, if you have a son, a daughter, a grandson, a granddaughter daughter, a grandson, a granddaughter daughter, a grandson, a granddaughter who who needs to hear this, they, not who who needs to hear this, they, not who who needs to hear this, they, not you, but they need to write to me to you, but they need to write to me to you, but they need to write to me to request this meeting. I only do it by request this meeting. I only do it by request this meeting. I only do it by invitation. They need to write to me and invitation. They need to write to me and invitation. They need to write to me and and I only do it by by and I only do it by by and I only do it by by their request to me. I invite you to do their request to me. I invite you to do their request to me. I invite you to do this, but that person who I'm going to this, but that person who I'm going to this, but that person who I'm going to share with has to write to me and to share with has to write to me and to share with has to write to me and to request this meeting. It takes an hour request this meeting. It takes an hour request this meeting. It takes an hour and 15 minutes, and they they they will and 15 minutes, and they they they will and 15 minutes, and they they they will come out believing in the resurrection come out believing in the resurrection come out believing in the resurrection of Jesus Christ. I'm confident of that. of Jesus Christ. I'm confident of that. of Jesus Christ. I'm confident of that. So, here's how how you can you can So, here's how how you can you can So, here's how how you can you can There's that my email There's that my email There's that my email [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] and you can connect with me in all of and you can connect with me in all of and you can connect with me in all of these different platforms. And with these different platforms. And with these different platforms. And with that, I will uh just wrap this thing up that, I will uh just wrap this thing up that, I will uh just wrap this thing up and turn it back to and turn it back to and turn it back to Amy. If you do not believe in the Amy. If you do not believe in the Amy. If you do not believe in the physical resurrection of Jesus Christ, physical resurrection of Jesus Christ, physical resurrection of Jesus Christ, send me an email [email protected] and we will get together and I will and we will get together and I will share with you about why I embrace the share with you about why I embrace the share with you about why I embrace the resurrection of Jesus. Okay.

resurrection of Jesus. Okay. resurrection of Jesus. Okay. Let's start off with your conversion Let's start off with your conversion Let's start off with your conversion experience. experience. experience. Okay, I'm I'm a Jew. I was born in a Okay, I'm I'm a Jew. I was born in a Okay, I'm I'm a Jew. I was born in a Jewish home. I grew up I was born in New Jewish home. I grew up I was born in New Jewish home. I grew up I was born in New York City, raised just north of the York City, raised just north of the York City, raised just north of the city. city. city. Um Um Um I went to college at the age of 18. Um I went to college at the age of 18. Um I went to college at the age of 18. Um my my home was a secular Jewish home, so my my home was a secular Jewish home, so my my home was a secular Jewish home, so I I was not religious I was not a I I was not religious I was not a I I was not religious I was not a religious Jew. religious Jew. religious Jew. I was only in a synagogue about twice a I was only in a synagogue about twice a I was only in a synagogue about twice a year. Like many people who claim to be year. Like many people who claim to be year. Like many people who claim to be Christians will just go on Christmas and Christians will just go on Christmas and Christians will just go on Christmas and Easter. I'd go on like Yom Kippur and Easter. I'd go on like Yom Kippur and Easter. I'd go on like Yom Kippur and Passover and that was it. Passover and that was it. Passover and that was it. Uh Uh Uh I met a guy in the laundry room. We were I met a guy in the laundry room. We were I met a guy in the laundry room. We were doing laundry. It was my first load of doing laundry. It was my first load of doing laundry. It was my first load of laundry that I ever did. laundry that I ever did. laundry that I ever did. Uh I just gotten to college. My mother Uh I just gotten to college. My mother Uh I just gotten to college. My mother always did it for me before that and um always did it for me before that and um always did it for me before that and um I asked this guy I said, "You He was on I asked this guy I said, "You He was on I asked this guy I said, "You He was on the football team. He was a quarterback the football team. He was a quarterback the football team. He was a quarterback and I said, "You can play pro ball when and I said, "You can play pro ball when and I said, "You can play pro ball when you graduate." He said, "I'm not good you graduate." He said, "I'm not good you graduate." He said, "I'm not good enough for that." I said, "What are you enough for that." I said, "What are you enough for that." I said, "What are you going to do?" He says, "Probably a going to do?" He says, "Probably a going to do?" He says, "Probably a minute missionary." I said, minute missionary." I said, minute missionary." I said, "Missionary?" Never met a missionary "Missionary?" Never met a missionary "Missionary?" Never met a missionary before.

before. before. I didn't even think missionaries I didn't even think missionaries I didn't even think missionaries existed. existed. existed. I I didn't. I thought they were all I I didn't. I thought they were all I I didn't. I thought they were all killed off by the American Indians. I I killed off by the American Indians. I I killed off by the American Indians. I I didn't I didn't know didn't I didn't know didn't I didn't know that they even existed and and uh I that they even existed and and uh I that they even existed and and uh I said, "Why would you want to be a said, "Why would you want to be a said, "Why would you want to be a missionary? missionary? missionary? You can just You can just put it on TV You can just You can just put it on TV You can just You can just put it on TV and just beam it in there. It's 1977. I and just beam it in there. It's 1977. I and just beam it in there. It's 1977. I mean, we got mean, we got mean, we got we can do this. And we can do this. And we can do this. And he said, "Can I give you an illustration he said, "Can I give you an illustration he said, "Can I give you an illustration of the gospel?" of the gospel?" of the gospel?" And I didn't know what he even meant. And I didn't know what he even meant. And I didn't know what he even meant. And I I thought he'd draw a picture, and And I I thought he'd draw a picture, and And I I thought he'd draw a picture, and he kind of did. He put people on one he kind of did. He put people on one he kind of did. He put people on one side, God on the other, and a chasm of side, God on the other, and a chasm of side, God on the other, and a chasm of sin separating us, the bridge sin separating us, the bridge sin separating us, the bridge illustration. He had me read this verse, illustration. He had me read this verse, illustration. He had me read this verse, "For all have sinned and fall short of "For all have sinned and fall short of "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." the glory of God." the glory of God." And I said to him, "I'm not a sinner." And I said to him, "I'm not a sinner." And I said to him, "I'm not a sinner." He was a little surprised. I said, "I He was a little surprised. I said, "I He was a little surprised. I said, "I never killed anybody. I never robbed a never killed anybody. I never robbed a never killed anybody. I never robbed a bank. How could I be a sinner?" This is bank. How could I be a sinner?" This is bank. How could I be a sinner?" This is very secular Jewish. We don't look at very secular Jewish. We don't look at very secular Jewish. We don't look at little things like sin as being sinful. little things like sin as being sinful. little things like sin as being sinful. You have to do something really bad. You have to do something really bad. You have to do something really bad. It's not like in It's not like in It's not like in Christians, like every thought I have, Christians, like every thought I have, Christians, like every thought I have, I've sinned again. I've sinned again. I've sinned again. No, it it it it's it's No, it it it it's it's No, it it it it's it's And so And so And so he turned to another verse, Matthew he turned to another verse, Matthew he turned to another verse, Matthew 5:28.

5:28. 5:28. Jesus said, "I say to you, everyone who Jesus said, "I say to you, everyone who Jesus said, "I say to you, everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has looks at a woman with lust for her has looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in already committed adultery with her in already committed adultery with her in his heart." his heart." his heart." I was working in a gas station from the I was working in a gas station from the I was working in a gas station from the age of 14 on the highway just outside age of 14 on the highway just outside age of 14 on the highway just outside New York City, and my job New York City, and my job New York City, and my job at the age of 14 was to clean the at the age of 14 was to clean the at the age of 14 was to clean the parking lots and the restrooms of these parking lots and the restrooms of these parking lots and the restrooms of these gas stations along the highway. gas stations along the highway. gas stations along the highway. And I started finding magazines, and I And I started finding magazines, and I And I started finding magazines, and I became addicted to pornography at a very became addicted to pornography at a very became addicted to pornography at a very young age. And then here I was 18, I was young age. And then here I was 18, I was young age. And then here I was 18, I was terribly addicted to pornography. I terribly addicted to pornography. I terribly addicted to pornography. I couldn't look at a woman any other way. couldn't look at a woman any other way. couldn't look at a woman any other way. And so I read that verse, and I was And so I read that verse, and I was And so I read that verse, and I was deeply convicted. deeply convicted. deeply convicted. And and you know, why should I even be And and you know, why should I even be And and you know, why should I even be convicted? I mean, I why should I even convicted? I mean, I why should I even convicted? I mean, I why should I even care what Jesus said? I didn't know care what Jesus said? I didn't know care what Jesus said? I didn't know Jesus was Jewish. I mean, who knew? He should be Christian, right? It's what He should be Christian, right? It's what the rabbis used to tell us, Jesus is the rabbis used to tell us, Jesus is the rabbis used to tell us, Jesus is Christian. Which is not a total lie. I Christian. Which is not a total lie. I Christian. Which is not a total lie. I mean, he is kind of the father of the mean, he is kind of the father of the mean, he is kind of the father of the faith. faith. faith. But but um But but um But but um why should I care what some gentile says why should I care what some gentile says why should I care what some gentile says 2,000 years ago? 2,000 years ago? 2,000 years ago? But when Jesus is speaking to us, his But when Jesus is speaking to us, his But when Jesus is speaking to us, his words have this enormous power.

words have this enormous power. words have this enormous power. And I was convicted of sin And I was convicted of sin And I was convicted of sin for the first time in my life. for the first time in my life. for the first time in my life. And so he had my attention and he took And so he had my attention and he took And so he had my attention and he took me through some other gospel verses that me through some other gospel verses that me through some other gospel verses that essentially showed that essentially showed that essentially showed that there's nothing I can do about my sin, there's nothing I can do about my sin, there's nothing I can do about my sin, that Jesus died for my sin to that Jesus died for my sin to that Jesus died for my sin to do this to open a way for me. do this to open a way for me. do this to open a way for me. It was 2 months later. It was in It was 2 months later. It was in It was 2 months later. It was in November 7th, 1977. I was all alone in November 7th, 1977. I was all alone in November 7th, 1977. I was all alone in my room. Nobody was there. Door was my room. Nobody was there. Door was my room. Nobody was there. Door was shut. I got down on my knees, not even shut. I got down on my knees, not even shut. I got down on my knees, not even sure why I did that. Most Christians I'd sure why I did that. Most Christians I'd sure why I did that. Most Christians I'd seen sit when they pray. Most Jews stand seen sit when they pray. Most Jews stand seen sit when they pray. Most Jews stand when we pray. when we pray. when we pray. And I I just said, "Lord, I am a sinner. And I I just said, "Lord, I am a sinner. And I I just said, "Lord, I am a sinner. Forgive me." Forgive me." Forgive me." And I felt this amazing peace of God And I felt this amazing peace of God And I felt this amazing peace of God just took to drop down and this burden just took to drop down and this burden just took to drop down and this burden of sin I'd been carrying since August of sin I'd been carrying since August of sin I'd been carrying since August just started to lift from me. just started to lift from me. just started to lift from me. Then all of a sudden to my right, Jesus Then all of a sudden to my right, Jesus Then all of a sudden to my right, Jesus is standing. is standing. is standing. And I was already on my knees and I And I was already on my knees and I And I was already on my knees and I turned toward him. turned toward him. turned toward him. And I put my face to the ground and I And I put my face to the ground and I And I put my face to the ground and I just weeping. just weeping. just weeping. It was like a liquid of love that's just It was like a liquid of love that's just It was like a liquid of love that's just pouring over me.

pouring over me. pouring over me. And I didn't want to get up. And I don't And I didn't want to get up. And I don't And I didn't want to get up. And I don't even know how I knew this was Jesus. I even know how I knew this was Jesus. I even know how I knew this was Jesus. I just knew it. And and uh it wasn't like just knew it. And and uh it wasn't like just knew it. And and uh it wasn't like he was he was he was there and gone in a flash. No, he was there and gone in a flash. No, he was there and gone in a flash. No, he was just staying there. just staying there. just staying there. And it was just I never felt love like And it was just I never felt love like And it was just I never felt love like this before. this before. this before. And then when I when I uh after a while And then when I when I uh after a while And then when I when I uh after a while I got up, I wiped the tears from my I got up, I wiped the tears from my I got up, I wiped the tears from my eyes. I couldn't stop thinking about eyes. I couldn't stop thinking about eyes. I couldn't stop thinking about Jesus. Jesus. Jesus. I was thinking about him all the time. I I was thinking about him all the time. I I was thinking about him all the time. I was dreaming about Jesus. I had a was dreaming about Jesus. I had a was dreaming about Jesus. I had a recurring dream that recurring dream that recurring dream that that I was telling people, "You got to that I was telling people, "You got to that I was telling people, "You got to meet Jesus." Here's this Jewish kid in meet Jesus." Here's this Jewish kid in meet Jesus." Here's this Jewish kid in his dreams telling people, "You got to his dreams telling people, "You got to his dreams telling people, "You got to meet Jesus." meet Jesus." meet Jesus." And I didn't tell anybody. Who's Who's And I didn't tell anybody. Who's Who's And I didn't tell anybody. Who's Who's going to believe me? going to believe me? going to believe me? And I didn't realize that he was giving And I didn't realize that he was giving And I didn't realize that he was giving me a picture of my life was going to me a picture of my life was going to me a picture of my life was going to become. become. become. Like I said, if I go a week without Like I said, if I go a week without Like I said, if I go a week without without leading somebody to the Lord, without leading somebody to the Lord, without leading somebody to the Lord, it's a wasted week. My life has become it's a wasted week. My life has become it's a wasted week. My life has become telling people about Jesus. telling people about Jesus. telling people about Jesus. He gave me that when I was 18 years old. He gave me that when I was 18 years old. He gave me that when I was 18 years old. The other thing that happened that I The other thing that happened that I The other thing that happened that I didn't notice right away, just like if didn't notice right away, just like if didn't notice right away, just like if your knee is hurting your knee is hurting your knee is hurting for days and then all of a sudden it for days and then all of a sudden it for days and then all of a sudden it stops hurting, you don't notice it right stops hurting, you don't notice it right stops hurting, you don't notice it right away. You're like, "Hey, my knee doesn't away. You're like, "Hey, my knee doesn't away. You're like, "Hey, my knee doesn't hurt anymore."

hurt anymore." hurt anymore." The addiction to pornography was gone. I The addiction to pornography was gone. I The addiction to pornography was gone. I mean, just gone. Now, if you if you have mean, just gone. Now, if you if you have mean, just gone. Now, if you if you have men that are addicted to pornography, men that are addicted to pornography, men that are addicted to pornography, it's very rare that it goes like that. it's very rare that it goes like that. it's very rare that it goes like that. They could go through all sorts of helps They could go through all sorts of helps They could go through all sorts of helps and everything. and everything. and everything. I had a lot of other problems that I had I had a lot of other problems that I had I had a lot of other problems that I had to work through, but that one he used to to work through, but that one he used to to work through, but that one he used to convict me of my sin. And that one he convict me of my sin. And that one he convict me of my sin. And that one he showed me his power. It was just gone. showed me his power. It was just gone. showed me his power. It was just gone. It's amazing. 2 weeks later, the guy who It's amazing. 2 weeks later, the guy who It's amazing. 2 weeks later, the guy who had shared with me said, "Jim, have you had shared with me said, "Jim, have you had shared with me said, "Jim, have you received Jesus?" received Jesus?" received Jesus?" I said, "Yeah, why do you ask?" Cuz I I said, "Yeah, why do you ask?" Cuz I I said, "Yeah, why do you ask?" Cuz I didn't tell anybody. I mean, this isn't didn't tell anybody. I mean, this isn't didn't tell anybody. I mean, this isn't a Who would believe such a thing? a Who would believe such a thing? a Who would believe such a thing? And and uh he said, "You haven't stopped smiling he said, "You haven't stopped smiling for weeks. Something's different about for weeks. Something's different about for weeks. Something's different about you." you." you." I said, "How can I stay close to God? I said, "How can I stay close to God? I said, "How can I stay close to God? I've never felt like this before." He I've never felt like this before." He I've never felt like this before." He said, "If you read your Bible every day, said, "If you read your Bible every day, said, "If you read your Bible every day, you'll stay close to God. If you don't, you'll stay close to God. If you don't, you'll stay close to God. If you don't, you won't." 47 years I've read the you won't." 47 years I've read the you won't." 47 years I've read the scriptures every day. scriptures every day. scriptures every day. Every day. Every day. Every day. Every day for 47 years. Every day for 47 years. Every day for 47 years. That's my testimony. I love it. It's That's my testimony. I love it. It's That's my testimony. I love it. It's amazing.

amazing. amazing. Um can you give us an example of seeing Um can you give us an example of seeing Um can you give us an example of seeing the power of scripture in your life? the power of scripture in your life? the power of scripture in your life? Uh Uh Uh I mean, I I see it all the time. All the I mean, I I see it all the time. All the I mean, I I see it all the time. All the time. But you want a specific example is time. But you want a specific example is time. But you want a specific example is is uh is uh is uh I mean, I've got so many of them, but I mean, I've got so many of them, but I mean, I've got so many of them, but you know, since it's a it's it's a whole you know, since it's a it's it's a whole you know, since it's a it's it's a whole group of women here, I um group of women here, I um group of women here, I um might be able to identify with this one. might be able to identify with this one. might be able to identify with this one. You know, I I um I was newly married. We were married for I was newly married. We were married for about 3 years. We were living in about 3 years. We were living in about 3 years. We were living in in uh I was at Stanford University. It in uh I was at Stanford University. It in uh I was at Stanford University. It was very expensive. Uh I was on a post was very expensive. Uh I was on a post was very expensive. Uh I was on a post doc salary. I was making $17,000 a year. doc salary. I was making $17,000 a year. doc salary. I was making $17,000 a year. My wife was home with two kids. My wife was home with two kids. My wife was home with two kids. We'd been married So, we'd been married We'd been married So, we'd been married We'd been married So, we'd been married 4 years at that time if we had two kids. 4 years at that time if we had two kids. 4 years at that time if we had two kids. And and um And and um And and um uh You know, I I I started getting this You know, I I I started getting this this this idea this this idea this this idea from certain verses in the scripture from certain verses in the scripture from certain verses in the scripture that that that you know, we don't need to spend money.

you know, we don't need to spend money. you know, we don't need to spend money. You don't need to spend money on makeup. You don't need to spend money on makeup. You don't need to spend money on makeup. You don't need that. You don't need that. You don't need that. And um now, look, I've learned that And um now, look, I've learned that And um now, look, I've learned that makeup is very makeup is very makeup is very very very very dear to women. dear to women. dear to women. And and so, and then not only did she And and so, and then not only did she And and so, and then not only did she not listen to me, she she went and she not listen to me, she she went and she not listen to me, she she went and she started this Mary Kay business thing. started this Mary Kay business thing. started this Mary Kay business thing. And so, she bought this starter kit. It And so, she bought this starter kit. It And so, she bought this starter kit. It was like $500. was like $500. was like $500. And and um And and um And and um And I was praying. It was bothering me And I was praying. It was bothering me And I was praying. It was bothering me so much. so much. so much. And then I remember I was reading in the And then I remember I was reading in the And then I remember I was reading in the scriptures. It says in in Proverbs, it says, "Oil It says in in Proverbs, it says, "Oil and perfume make the heart glad." and perfume make the heart glad." and perfume make the heart glad." And I felt God just say, "Leave her And I felt God just say, "Leave her And I felt God just say, "Leave her alone. It makes her glad." And I alone. It makes her glad." And I alone. It makes her glad." And I remember her coming out of the bedroom. remember her coming out of the bedroom. remember her coming out of the bedroom. And I said, "Jean, you can wear all the And I said, "Jean, you can wear all the And I said, "Jean, you can wear all the makeup you want anytime you want." It's makeup you want anytime you want." It's makeup you want anytime you want." It's just like just like just like You're a Moody man. You're a Moody man. You're a Moody man. And and uh And and uh And and uh And she even said, "You ought to join And she even said, "You ought to join And she even said, "You ought to join the Moody Bible Institute." I don't I the Moody Bible Institute." I don't I the Moody Bible Institute." I don't I don't know where you are on things, but don't know where you are on things, but don't know where you are on things, but anyway, what happened was God took care anyway, what happened was God took care anyway, what happened was God took care of everything. She She She couldn't of everything. She She She couldn't of everything. She She She couldn't continue in the Mary Kay business cuz continue in the Mary Kay business cuz continue in the Mary Kay business cuz she has such a big heart. She couldn't she has such a big heart. She couldn't she has such a big heart. She couldn't think of charging women. So, she just think of charging women. So, she just think of charging women. So, she just gave it all away.

gave it all away. gave it all away. And and so, she had nothing else, you And and so, she had nothing else, you And and so, she had nothing else, you know, to renew the business. know, to renew the business. know, to renew the business. Now Now, I actually like it. I I like it Now Now, I actually like it. I I like it Now Now, I actually like it. I I like it when she wears the makeup. But But that when she wears the makeup. But But that when she wears the makeup. But But that was one thing where God really brought was one thing where God really brought was one thing where God really brought peace into my home through that little peace into my home through that little peace into my home through that little scripture verse. I could totally release scripture verse. I could totally release scripture verse. I could totally release it. it. it. And it it brought peace into my home. And it it brought peace into my home. And it it brought peace into my home. There was another one I was remember I There was another one I was remember I There was another one I was remember I was reading one morning. was reading one morning. was reading one morning. Uh Uh Uh I was giving a talk I was giving a talk I was giving a talk at the institution where I had at the institution where I had at the institution where I had gotten my PhD. gotten my PhD. gotten my PhD. And I was going to be s- giving a And I was going to be s- giving a And I was going to be s- giving a lecture in chemistry. I'd been I'd lecture in chemistry. I'd been I'd lecture in chemistry. I'd been I'd I'd been promoted very quickly to a full I'd been promoted very quickly to a full I'd been promoted very quickly to a full professor and I'd been invited back professor and I'd been invited back professor and I'd been invited back there to give a talk. And and um there to give a talk. And and um there to give a talk. And and um I gave this and I prayed. I was praying I gave this and I prayed. I was praying I gave this and I prayed. I was praying that morning and I read in scriptures that morning and I read in scriptures that morning and I read in scriptures this, "If you this, "If you this, "If you believe and do not doubt, you will not believe and do not doubt, you will not believe and do not doubt, you will not only do to what was done to this fig only do to what was done to this fig only do to what was done to this fig tree, but even if you say to this tree, but even if you say to this tree, but even if you say to this mountain, 'Be taken up and cast into the mountain, 'Be taken up and cast into the mountain, 'Be taken up and cast into the sea, it will happen.'" sea, it will happen.'" sea, it will happen.'" And I thought, "Lord, I pray that the And I thought, "Lord, I pray that the And I thought, "Lord, I pray that the seminar that I give today would be the seminar that I give today would be the seminar that I give today would be the best seminar ever in that department, best seminar ever in that department, best seminar ever in that department, the best."

And I said, "The department's 100 years And I said, "The department's 100 years old though, Lord. Who's going to know if old though, Lord. Who's going to know if old though, Lord. Who's going to know if it's the best? You're the only one who's it's the best? You're the only one who's it's the best? You're the only one who's seen all the seminars in that seen all the seminars in that seen all the seminars in that department." department." department." And I said my I pray that my mentor, the And I said my I pray that my mentor, the And I said my I pray that my mentor, the one from whom I received my PhD, he one from whom I received my PhD, he one from whom I received my PhD, he would say would say would say he would say that it was a super he would say that it was a super he would say that it was a super seminar. Cuz anytime I ever brought him seminar. Cuz anytime I ever brought him seminar. Cuz anytime I ever brought him a result as a graduate student, he would a result as a graduate student, he would a result as a graduate student, he would say, "Pretty good for your level." I say, "Pretty good for your level." I say, "Pretty good for your level." I never got above the man's waist. never got above the man's waist. never got above the man's waist. And and when I got done with the And and when I got done with the And and when I got done with the seminar, he was sitting right on the seminar, he was sitting right on the seminar, he was sitting right on the front row. He stood up and he said, front row. He stood up and he said, front row. He stood up and he said, "Super! Super!" "Super! Super!" "Super! Super!" And sitting behind him And sitting behind him And sitting behind him and and and and th- this man, a few and and and and th- this man, a few and and and and th- this man, a few years later, who cried out super, he he years later, who cried out super, he he years later, who cried out super, he he received the Nobel Prize in chemistry. received the Nobel Prize in chemistry. received the Nobel Prize in chemistry. The man sitting behind him was H.C. The man sitting behind him was H.C. The man sitting behind him was H.C. Brown, his mentor, whom I knew as well. Brown, his mentor, whom I knew as well. Brown, his mentor, whom I knew as well. He had received the Nobel Prize in the He had received the Nobel Prize in the He had received the Nobel Prize in the 1970s. 1970s. 1970s. And I went down and I shook his hand. I And I went down and I shook his hand. I And I went down and I shook his hand. I said, "Thank you for attending the said, "Thank you for attending the said, "Thank you for attending the seminar today." And he held on to my seminar today." And he held on to my seminar today." And he held on to my hand and he said, "I want you to know hand and he said, "I want you to know hand and he said, "I want you to know something." Now, this guy was in his 80s something." Now, this guy was in his 80s something." Now, this guy was in his 80s at the time, a Nobel Prize winner. He at the time, a Nobel Prize winner. He at the time, a Nobel Prize winner. He said, "That was the best seminar I've said, "That was the best seminar I've said, "That was the best seminar I've ever seen in my life." ever seen in my life." ever seen in my life." I said, "That's very kind of you to say I said, "That's very kind of you to say I said, "That's very kind of you to say that." He said, "I'm not saying it to be that." He said, "I'm not saying it to be that." He said, "I'm not saying it to be kind. I really mean it."

kind. I really mean it." kind. I really mean it." And and God showed me And and God showed me And and God showed me that he really really stands by his that he really really stands by his that he really really stands by his word. And this is what I see all the word. And this is what I see all the word. And this is what I see all the time. I mean, I was just time. I mean, I was just time. I mean, I was just I was just what marching around my I was just what marching around my I was just what marching around my living room this morning with the word living room this morning with the word living room this morning with the word of God in hand. So, I I mean, I I got I of God in hand. So, I I mean, I I got I of God in hand. So, I I mean, I I got I got lots of examples. got lots of examples. got lots of examples. Uh I believe the scriptures. Uh I believe the scriptures. Uh I believe the scriptures. Uh this is why it says in the New Uh this is why it says in the New Uh this is why it says in the New Testament over and over again, "This was Testament over and over again, "This was Testament over and over again, "This was done done done This was done in order to fulfill the This was done in order to fulfill the This was done in order to fulfill the word spoken of Isaiah the prophet. This word spoken of Isaiah the prophet. This word spoken of Isaiah the prophet. This is was done in order to fulfill what was is was done in order to fulfill what was is was done in order to fulfill what was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet. spoken by Jeremiah the prophet. spoken by Jeremiah the prophet. This was done in order to fulfill." So, This was done in order to fulfill." So, This was done in order to fulfill." So, you see, this is it's not it's not you see, this is it's not it's not you see, this is it's not it's not the Bible predicts the future. the Bible predicts the future. the Bible predicts the future. It's not that. It's not that. It's not that. This was done This was done This was done in order to fulfill the word spoken by in order to fulfill the word spoken by in order to fulfill the word spoken by Isaiah the prophet. God's word says it, Isaiah the prophet. God's word says it, Isaiah the prophet. God's word says it, so the future made it happen. You see, so the future made it happen. You see, so the future made it happen. You see, God's word defines what the future is God's word defines what the future is God's word defines what the future is going to be. It's not that oh, God knows going to be. It's not that oh, God knows going to be. It's not that oh, God knows what the future is. No, God makes the what the future is. No, God makes the what the future is. No, God makes the future. God God's word does it. I'm a future. God God's word does it. I'm a future. God God's word does it. I'm a scientist. I chase the universe trying scientist. I chase the universe trying scientist. I chase the universe trying to explain this little thing and that to explain this little thing and that to explain this little thing and that little thing. God's God says something little thing. God's God says something little thing. God's God says something and then the universe comes into and then the universe comes into and then the universe comes into conformity with that word that he just conformity with that word that he just conformity with that word that he just said.

said. said. This was done in order to fulfill the This was done in order to fulfill the This was done in order to fulfill the words of Isaiah the prophet. It wasn't words of Isaiah the prophet. It wasn't words of Isaiah the prophet. It wasn't This was done This was done This was done and Isaiah had predicted it. and Isaiah had predicted it. and Isaiah had predicted it. No, God's word defines it. No, God's word defines it. No, God's word defines it. And this is why I love God. I love God. And this is why I love God. I love God. And this is why I love God. I love God. He defines the universe. His word He defines the universe. His word He defines the universe. His word defines the universe. I love that. Um what would you say has I love that. Um what would you say has been the biggest challenge in your walk been the biggest challenge in your walk been the biggest challenge in your walk with God? Um Um my low self-esteem my low self-esteem my low self-esteem my my uh my my uh my my uh uh just just uh um just just uh um the biggest barrier has always been the biggest barrier has always been the biggest barrier has always been myself. myself. myself. Um Um Um it's it's not a problem with trusting it's it's not a problem with trusting it's it's not a problem with trusting God. I trust God. God. I trust God. God. I trust God. As as Jesus said, "He who sent me." As as Jesus said, "He who sent me." As as Jesus said, "He who sent me." In John chapter 8, Jesus said, "He who In John chapter 8, Jesus said, "He who In John chapter 8, Jesus said, "He who sent me is trustworthy." sent me is trustworthy." sent me is trustworthy." And I know that. He who sent me is And I know that. He who sent me is And I know that. He who sent me is trustworthy.

trustworthy. trustworthy. It's always me is my biggest problem. It's always me is my biggest problem. It's always me is my biggest problem. Um Um Um you know uh you know uh you know uh am I going to walk in what what he's am I going to walk in what what he's am I going to walk in what what he's promised me? promised me? promised me? Am I going to am I going to to believe Am I going to am I going to to believe Am I going to am I going to to believe what he has spoken? what he has spoken? what he has spoken? Um So, it it the the the the the So, it it the the the the the the biggest barrier has always been the biggest barrier has always been the biggest barrier has always been myself. myself. myself. Myself getting in the way. Myself getting in the way. Myself getting in the way. Yeah. I'm with you there. Yeah. I'm with you there. Yeah. I'm with you there. Um Um Um what would you say was the most what would you say was the most what would you say was the most important thing that you and your wife important thing that you and your wife important thing that you and your wife did to point your children to the Lord? You know, I You know, I I made so many mistakes. I made so many mistakes. I made so many mistakes. But I really tried. I really tried. But I really tried. I really tried. But I really tried. I really tried. So, So, So, I I I I've When I when my daughter was I've When I when my daughter was I've When I when my daughter was one daughter was about four, the other one daughter was about four, the other one daughter was about four, the other was was like two.

was was like two. was was like two. My father-in-law was visiting. My father-in-law was visiting. My father-in-law was visiting. And And And he said, "Jim, you know, I see how busy he said, "Jim, you know, I see how busy he said, "Jim, you know, I see how busy you are." I was a young assistant you are." I was a young assistant you are." I was a young assistant professor. professor. professor. He said, "I see you pray with your with He said, "I see you pray with your with He said, "I see you pray with your with your kids when you put them to bed." He your kids when you put them to bed." He your kids when you put them to bed." He said, "But you really need a family time said, "But you really need a family time said, "But you really need a family time together." together." together." We gather around the Bible and read. You We gather around the Bible and read. You We gather around the Bible and read. You need to do this. need to do this. need to do this. So, from that day I mean this this this was like Jethro I mean this this this was like Jethro talking to Moses. I mean that day I I talking to Moses. I mean that day I I talking to Moses. I mean that day I I really did it. And so really did it. And so really did it. And so from the time one was four and the other from the time one was four and the other from the time one was four and the other was two and then the the boys, you know, was two and then the the boys, you know, was two and then the the boys, you know, they just they just got it from the time they just they just got it from the time they just they just got it from the time they came home from the hospital. We they came home from the hospital. We they came home from the hospital. We would read in the scripture we would would read in the scripture we would would read in the scripture we would read from Hurlbut's Story of the Bible, read from Hurlbut's Story of the Bible, read from Hurlbut's Story of the Bible, H U R L B U T {apostrophe} S, H U R L B H U R L B U T {apostrophe} S, H U R L B H U R L B U T {apostrophe} S, H U R L B U T {apostrophe} S. U T {apostrophe} S. U T {apostrophe} S. Hurlbut's Story of the Bible, that was Hurlbut's Story of the Bible, that was Hurlbut's Story of the Bible, that was written in the 1920s. It tracks with the written in the 1920s. It tracks with the written in the 1920s. It tracks with the Bible from Genesis to Revelation. Bible from Genesis to Revelation. Bible from Genesis to Revelation. But it's written in a storybook fashion.

But it's written in a storybook fashion. But it's written in a storybook fashion. And there's every other page is a And there's every other page is a And there's every other page is a classical painting, a classical painting classical painting, a classical painting classical painting, a classical painting that mirrors what you're talking about that mirrors what you're talking about that mirrors what you're talking about in that portion in the scripture. in that portion in the scripture. in that portion in the scripture. And we read from that book from Genesis And we read from that book from Genesis And we read from that book from Genesis to Revelation five days a week, Monday to Revelation five days a week, Monday to Revelation five days a week, Monday through Friday. I got my kids up at 5:30 through Friday. I got my kids up at 5:30 through Friday. I got my kids up at 5:30 in the morning. I'd get up long before in the morning. I'd get up long before in the morning. I'd get up long before that, have my own quiet time. that, have my own quiet time. that, have my own quiet time. And then I'd bring my wife a cup of tea And then I'd bring my wife a cup of tea And then I'd bring my wife a cup of tea at 5:00, put it by her bedside with her at 5:00, put it by her bedside with her at 5:00, put it by her bedside with her Bible, and she'd have that time from Bible, and she'd have that time from Bible, and she'd have that time from 5:00 to 5:30. And at 5:30 I would go and 5:00 to 5:30. And at 5:30 I would go and 5:00 to 5:30. And at 5:30 I would go and pick up all the kids. And you know, I pick up all the kids. And you know, I pick up all the kids. And you know, I had I had four kids and had I had four kids and had I had four kids and you know, they're hanging on me and and you know, they're hanging on me and and you know, they're hanging on me and and and I'd bring them down and and we read and I'd bring them down and and we read and I'd bring them down and and we read from Hurlbut's Story of the Bible. from Hurlbut's Story of the Bible. from Hurlbut's Story of the Bible. Then we get on our knees and each one Then we get on our knees and each one Then we get on our knees and each one had to pray. had to pray. had to pray. And we'd recite scriptures together. And we'd recite scriptures together. And we'd recite scriptures together. We'd be memorizing scriptures. I mean We'd be memorizing scriptures. I mean We'd be memorizing scriptures. I mean like like like all all of all of uh Luke chapter 6, all all of all of uh Luke chapter 6, all all of all of uh Luke chapter 6, entire Psalms. The little ones I would entire Psalms. The little ones I would entire Psalms. The little ones I would just say, "The Lord is my" and they just just say, "The Lord is my" and they just just say, "The Lord is my" and they just have to say, "Shepherd." You know, have to say, "Shepherd." You know, have to say, "Shepherd." You know, you know, and uh you know, and uh you know, and uh just little just little just little little by little they'd learn it. And so little by little they'd learn it. And so little by little they'd learn it. And so we'd we'd memorize scripture together we'd we'd memorize scripture together we'd we'd memorize scripture together and then we'd check each other. And I and then we'd check each other. And I and then we'd check each other. And I was gone by 6:00. I left the house at was gone by 6:00. I left the house at was gone by 6:00. I left the house at 6:00 6:00 6:00 every morning and and uh every morning and and uh every morning and and uh and my wife took over from there. Now, and my wife took over from there. Now, and my wife took over from there. Now, my wife wasn't working outside the home my wife wasn't working outside the home my wife wasn't working outside the home so she could do that.

so she could do that. so she could do that. And then I was home at 6:00 for dinner. And then I was home at 6:00 for dinner. And then I was home at 6:00 for dinner. And and uh we kept that pattern. So, if And and uh we kept that pattern. So, if And and uh we kept that pattern. So, if I wasn't traveling, I was home at 6:00 I wasn't traveling, I was home at 6:00 I wasn't traveling, I was home at 6:00 for dinner. So, I was gone 12 hours, but for dinner. So, I was gone 12 hours, but for dinner. So, I was gone 12 hours, but we started the day we started the day we started the day in the Bible and in the scriptures in the Bible and in the scriptures in the Bible and in the scriptures together and I think that that was super together and I think that that was super together and I think that that was super valuable. That they saw how diligent we valuable. That they saw how diligent we valuable. That they saw how diligent we were. were. were. Uh we never missed church. If one of the Uh we never missed church. If one of the Uh we never missed church. If one of the kids was sick, one of us stayed home kids was sick, one of us stayed home kids was sick, one of us stayed home with the sick kid and the rest went to with the sick kid and the rest went to with the sick kid and the rest went to church. Uh uh a little sniffle never church. Uh uh a little sniffle never church. Uh uh a little sniffle never stopped us. Uh stopped us. Uh stopped us. Uh uh kid vomiting up their milk across my uh kid vomiting up their milk across my uh kid vomiting up their milk across my back never stopped me from going to back never stopped me from going to back never stopped me from going to church. church. church. And uh um And uh um And uh um we always went to church. That was we always went to church. That was we always went to church. That was something that was important to us. I something that was important to us. I something that was important to us. I always had Christian service and my kids always had Christian service and my kids always had Christian service and my kids knew that. They knew that that Monday knew that. They knew that that Monday knew that. They knew that that Monday night I was going to be in a prison night I was going to be in a prison night I was going to be in a prison every night every night every night teaching a Bible study. They knew that.

teaching a Bible study. They knew that. teaching a Bible study. They knew that. They saw the way we had students in our They saw the way we had students in our They saw the way we had students in our home. They they dem- we demonstrated home. They they dem- we demonstrated home. They they dem- we demonstrated that to them, but that to them, but that to them, but you know, I still made many mistakes, you know, I still made many mistakes, you know, I still made many mistakes, but I really did try. but I really did try. but I really did try. You know, I Do I have regrets? Yeah, I You know, I Do I have regrets? Yeah, I You know, I Do I have regrets? Yeah, I have I have regrets. There's have I have regrets. There's have I have regrets. There's many things I wish I had done many things I wish I had done many things I wish I had done differently. differently. differently. Um Um Um but I really did try. but I really did try. but I really did try. I do all those things as well. I do all those things as well. I do all those things as well. Every morning. Let me let me let me let Every morning. Let me let me let me let Every morning. Let me let me let me let me share one other thing that I think me share one other thing that I think me share one other thing that I think might be helpful. might be helpful. might be helpful. Uh the other thing I did is is I would Uh the other thing I did is is I would Uh the other thing I did is is I would address problems very quickly, very address problems very quickly, very address problems very quickly, very quickly. So, quickly. So, quickly. So, one day my daughter was around 12 years one day my daughter was around 12 years one day my daughter was around 12 years old and she asked me, "What's anorexia?" old and she asked me, "What's anorexia?" old and she asked me, "What's anorexia?" And I explained it to her. And I explained it to her. And I explained it to her. Then she he said Then she he said Then she he said she said uh uh she said uh uh she said uh uh I think I'm going to become an anorexic. Um Um I said no you're not. I said no you're not. I said no you're not. And I had her in professional counseling And I had her in professional counseling And I had her in professional counseling the next day.

the next day. the next day. And I said you got to And I said you got to And I said you got to I I want to understand something about I I want to understand something about I I want to understand something about my daughter. And the counselor met with my daughter. And the counselor met with my daughter. And the counselor met with her and she she she's not going to her and she she she's not going to her and she she she's not going to become an anorexic. She's going to be become an anorexic. She's going to be become an anorexic. She's going to be okay. But I addressed things very very okay. But I addressed things very very okay. But I addressed things very very quickly. quickly. quickly. When there were problems, when my wife When there were problems, when my wife When there were problems, when my wife and I were having difficulty and I were having difficulty and I were having difficulty I sought out professional counseling. I I sought out professional counseling. I I sought out professional counseling. I sought it out, not my wife. sought it out, not my wife. sought it out, not my wife. I led that. I led that. I led that. I led that. Um I led that and I and and I led that. Um I led that and I and and I led that. Um I led that and I and and she would come with me and we'd go, we'd she would come with me and we'd go, we'd she would come with me and we'd go, we'd get matters resolved. And as soon as I get matters resolved. And as soon as I get matters resolved. And as soon as I walked in there, I would say to the walked in there, I would say to the walked in there, I would say to the counselor, Christian counselor, I'd say counselor, Christian counselor, I'd say counselor, Christian counselor, I'd say whatever you tell me to do, I will do. whatever you tell me to do, I will do. whatever you tell me to do, I will do. Whatever you tell me to do, I'll do. And Whatever you tell me to do, I'll do. And Whatever you tell me to do, I'll do. And every one of them would say, "Look, if every one of them would say, "Look, if every one of them would say, "Look, if this is your attitude, I'll get you this is your attitude, I'll get you this is your attitude, I'll get you fixed up in not going to take any time fixed up in not going to take any time fixed up in not going to take any time at all." at all." at all." And uh um And uh um And uh um we never met with counselors for more we never met with counselors for more we never met with counselors for more than than than six or eight sessions and we were fixed six or eight sessions and we were fixed six or eight sessions and we were fixed up. These were just tune-ups and I just up. These were just tune-ups and I just up. These were just tune-ups and I just dealt with it very quickly. dealt with it very quickly. dealt with it very quickly. And I would say over the course of our And I would say over the course of our And I would say over the course of our first 20 years of marriage first 20 years of marriage first 20 years of marriage we'd probably been to counselors six we'd probably been to counselors six we'd probably been to counselors six times times times but never for more than six or eight but never for more than six or eight but never for more than six or eight weeks because they'd say you're done.

weeks because they'd say you're done. weeks because they'd say you're done. You got to square it away. But I would You got to square it away. But I would You got to square it away. But I would address things very quickly. address things very quickly. address things very quickly. And my wife has come back over the years And my wife has come back over the years And my wife has come back over the years and tell me and tell me and tell me how much she appreciated that how much she appreciated that how much she appreciated that that I would I was very quick to deal that I would I was very quick to deal that I would I was very quick to deal with issues with the children with issues with the children with issues with the children or with or with or with with the marriage quickly. with the marriage quickly. with the marriage quickly. And that's just because I want to get it And that's just because I want to get it And that's just because I want to get it fixed and move on with life. I want to fixed and move on with life. I want to fixed and move on with life. I want to get it done. Mhm. get it done. Mhm. get it done. Mhm. Okay, we're going to pivot slightly and Okay, we're going to pivot slightly and Okay, we're going to pivot slightly and talk about your work. Um you've started talk about your work. Um you've started talk about your work. Um you've started 17 companies, have 130 granted patents, 17 companies, have 130 granted patents, 17 companies, have 130 granted patents, 100 pending. 100 pending. 100 pending. Is there one company or project that you Is there one company or project that you Is there one company or project that you are particularly excited about at the are particularly excited about at the are particularly excited about at the moment? moment? moment? And uh And uh And uh before I started watching your videos, I before I started watching your videos, I before I started watching your videos, I thought that nano and quantum were just thought that nano and quantum were just thought that nano and quantum were just things they'd made up in Avengers and I things they'd made up in Avengers and I things they'd made up in Avengers and I didn't know those were real things. didn't know those were real things. didn't know those were real things. So, I also saw that you made fingernail So, I also saw that you made fingernail So, I also saw that you made fingernail inserts for texting. inserts for texting. inserts for texting. I understood that one. That that one I I understood that one. That that one I I understood that one. That that one I don't even include that one. That was don't even include that one. That was don't even include that one. That was There was one guy came to me he wanted There was one guy came to me he wanted There was one guy came to me he wanted to to to wanted to build a little thing for women wanted to build a little thing for women wanted to build a little thing for women with long fingernails so that they could with long fingernails so that they could with long fingernails so that they could still text and still text and still text and and uh and uh and uh so we do we just helped them make the so we do we just helped them make the so we do we just helped them make the polymers for that. I mean that that that polymers for that. I mean that that that polymers for that. I mean that that that wasn't a real company. That was a sort wasn't a real company. That was a sort wasn't a real company. That was a sort of a joke. But but uh of a joke. But but uh of a joke. But but uh um um um You know, that's like asking me You know, that's like asking me You know, that's like asking me you know, which one of my four children you know, which one of my four children you know, which one of my four children am I most excited about, you know?

am I most excited about, you know? am I most excited about, you know? That's a That's a That's a Right right now the one that the one Right right now the one that the one Right right now the one that the one that's really taking off right now is uh that's really taking off right now is uh that's really taking off right now is uh where we're extracting metals from where we're extracting metals from where we're extracting metals from waste. So, you've heard about critical waste. So, you've heard about critical waste. So, you've heard about critical metals, rare earth elements and turns metals, rare earth elements and turns metals, rare earth elements and turns out they're already all among us. out they're already all among us. out they're already all among us. They're in all our waste electronics. They're in all our waste electronics. They're in all our waste electronics. So, we have this technique that very So, we have this technique that very So, we have this technique that very quickly flashes this out and the quickly flashes this out and the quickly flashes this out and the company's growing very very fast. We company's growing very very fast. We company's growing very very fast. We built a site out in Anahuac, Texas about built a site out in Anahuac, Texas about built a site out in Anahuac, Texas about about an hour east of here. about an hour east of here. about an hour east of here. Uh and that company's booming. We Uh and that company's booming. We Uh and that company's booming. We already have six five so six other sites already have six five so six other sites already have six five so six other sites around the country that we're building around the country that we're building around the country that we're building and it's it's just taking off uh because and it's it's just taking off uh because and it's it's just taking off uh because there's such a desire for critical there's such a desire for critical there's such a desire for critical metals since China's not selling it to metals since China's not selling it to metals since China's not selling it to us us anymore. Then another one uh um us us anymore. Then another one uh um us us anymore. Then another one uh um uh iron lattice where we're it's a new uh iron lattice where we're it's a new uh iron lattice where we're it's a new AI chip design AI chip design AI chip design uh uh uh uh that it will allow uh that it will allow uh that it will allow allow a lot less much lower energy to do allow a lot less much lower energy to do allow a lot less much lower energy to do AI computation. AI computation. AI computation. So, those are those are two that we're So, those are those are two that we're So, those are those are two that we're starting now that are starting now that are starting now that are that they're that they're that they're you know, they're taking a little more you know, they're taking a little more you know, they're taking a little more of my energy right now. So, that that of my energy right now. So, that that of my energy right now. So, that that that's what's on the forefront.

that's what's on the forefront. that's what's on the forefront. But, I'm never an officer or director in But, I'm never an officer or director in But, I'm never an officer or director in any of these companies. They're run by any of these companies. They're run by any of these companies. They're run by other people, and that's how I can stay other people, and that's how I can stay other people, and that's how I can stay a professor. a professor. a professor. I I could not run these myself. I I could not run these myself. I I could not run these myself. >> Mhm. Yeah. >> Mhm. Yeah. >> Mhm. Yeah. So, So, So, you you you do all that that we just talked about, do all that that we just talked about, do all that that we just talked about, and you're a professor, and then you do and you're a professor, and then you do and you're a professor, and then you do um college ministry, and do you do um college ministry, and do you do um college ministry, and do you do prison ministry? prison ministry? prison ministry? >> Not anymore. >> Not anymore. >> Not anymore. >> Not anymore. >> Not anymore. >> Not anymore. And then all of the um science and faith And then all of the um science and faith And then all of the um science and faith stuff, and so which ministry stuff, and so which ministry stuff, and so which ministry would you say is the would you say is the would you say is the the most fulfilling, or I don't know, the most fulfilling, or I don't know, the most fulfilling, or I don't know, the one that you like the most, or Well, the one that you like the most, or Well, the one that you like the most, or Well, you know, I I I teach this Bible study you know, I I I teach this Bible study you know, I I I teach this Bible study to college students for the last 27 to college students for the last 27 to college students for the last 27 years, and before that for 10 years in years, and before that for 10 years in years, and before that for 10 years in the prisons, and before that I was the prisons, and before that I was the prisons, and before that I was teaching Bible study always in the teaching Bible study always in the teaching Bible study always in the chemistry buildings, and chemistry buildings, and chemistry buildings, and I've always been teaching. So, to to me, I've always been teaching. So, to to me, I've always been teaching. So, to to me, to teach the Bible is so important to teach the Bible is so important to teach the Bible is so important every week to be teaching the Bible every week to be teaching the Bible every week to be teaching the Bible because it makes me learn. because it makes me learn. because it makes me learn. Uh you know, as a professor, if you Uh you know, as a professor, if you Uh you know, as a professor, if you don't if you don't go in prepared for a don't if you don't go in prepared for a don't if you don't go in prepared for a lecture, lecture, lecture, uh uh uh people see immediately that that you're people see immediately that that you're people see immediately that that you're a buffoon. I mean, if you if you don't a buffoon. I mean, if you if you don't a buffoon. I mean, if you if you don't know the subject. And so, I spend a lot know the subject. And so, I spend a lot know the subject. And so, I spend a lot of time over the scriptures, of time over the scriptures, of time over the scriptures, really trying to see, "Lord, what is the really trying to see, "Lord, what is the really trying to see, "Lord, what is the message for the people this week? What message for the people this week? What message for the people this week? What is the message?" And just pouring over is the message?" And just pouring over is the message?" And just pouring over the scriptures.

the scriptures. the scriptures. I'll use a commentary to get the lay of I'll use a commentary to get the lay of I'll use a commentary to get the lay of the land, but most of the time it's just the land, but most of the time it's just the land, but most of the time it's just staring at the text and saying, "What's staring at the text and saying, "What's staring at the text and saying, "What's the message from this? Show me the message from this? Show me the message from this? Show me something." And then allowing God to something." And then allowing God to something." And then allowing God to speak to my heart. That to me is the speak to my heart. That to me is the speak to my heart. That to me is the most fulfilling thing that I do. most fulfilling thing that I do. most fulfilling thing that I do. Uh Uh Uh the the the social media thing has just the the the social media thing has just the the the social media thing has just come as a come as a come as a you know, it it it really took off and you know, it it it really took off and you know, it it it really took off and interest over COVID because I couldn't interest over COVID because I couldn't interest over COVID because I couldn't travel. But then I I just get all these travel. But then I I just get all these travel. But then I I just get all these people that write to me and tell me that people that write to me and tell me that people that write to me and tell me that you know, I left the faith in high you know, I left the faith in high you know, I left the faith in high school. I left the faith in college school. I left the faith in college school. I left the faith in college because I was learning all this stuff because I was learning all this stuff because I was learning all this stuff about origin of life and evolution and about origin of life and evolution and about origin of life and evolution and here you come exposing it all and I here you come exposing it all and I here you come exposing it all and I never should have left the faith. never should have left the faith. never should have left the faith. I never should because these people I never should because these people I never should because these people really don't have answers. They act as really don't have answers. They act as really don't have answers. They act as if they have answers, but they don't if they have answers, but they don't if they have answers, but they don't have the answers. have the answers. have the answers. And so I see many people coming back to And so I see many people coming back to And so I see many people coming back to the faith through this. I see many the faith through this. I see many the faith through this. I see many people getting saved. 2025 people getting saved. 2025 people getting saved. 2025 so just last year I had so just last year I had so just last year I had there were 87 people there were 87 people there were 87 people that that made professions of faith that that made professions of faith that that made professions of faith with me.

with me. with me. One-on-one One-on-one One-on-one got involved in daily Bible reading and got involved in daily Bible reading and got involved in daily Bible reading and in a 13-week Bible study with old in a 13-week Bible study with old in a 13-week Bible study with old navigate retired navigator staff that I navigate retired navigator staff that I navigate retired navigator staff that I work with uh, to set them up in a work with uh, to set them up in a work with uh, to set them up in a one-on-one Bible study. And so I see a one-on-one Bible study. And so I see a one-on-one Bible study. And so I see a lot of people getting saved. I see a lot lot of people getting saved. I see a lot lot of people getting saved. I see a lot of people coming back to the Lord and of people coming back to the Lord and of people coming back to the Lord and people not leaving the Lord because they people not leaving the Lord because they people not leaving the Lord because they say, "Look, these these people don't say, "Look, these these people don't say, "Look, these these people don't have the answers anymore." have the answers anymore." have the answers anymore." So so the social media has become a very So so the social media has become a very So so the social media has become a very important thing from that standpoint. Um important thing from that standpoint. Um important thing from that standpoint. Um and and uh, getting the messages out in and and uh, getting the messages out in and and uh, getting the messages out in that way. So I that way. So I that way. So I all of them are important to me. Uh, all of them are important to me. Uh, all of them are important to me. Uh, um um um but I think the one that is the most but I think the one that is the most but I think the one that is the most fulfilling is the one that forces me fulfilling is the one that forces me fulfilling is the one that forces me right back to the word of God. right back to the word of God. right back to the word of God. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you're with college students a lot So you're with college students a lot So you're with college students a lot and you teach a lot. and you teach a lot. and you teach a lot. Is there anything particular about this Is there anything particular about this Is there anything particular about this next generation that makes you next generation that makes you next generation that makes you hopeful? Do you hopeful? Do you hopeful? Do you see a revival coming or do you see see a revival coming or do you see see a revival coming or do you see anything um I think students are the anything um I think students are the anything um I think students are the same as when I was a student. I mean, same as when I was a student. I mean, same as when I was a student. I mean, you see some that get excited about the you see some that get excited about the you see some that get excited about the Lord, some that don't. It's a It's more Lord, some that don't. It's a It's more Lord, some that don't. It's a It's more distracting today because of the distracting today because of the distracting today because of the smartphone. It It It's It's a lot harder smartphone. It It It's It's a lot harder smartphone. It It It's It's a lot harder to focus on on on the scriptures. On the to focus on on on the scriptures. On the to focus on on on the scriptures. On the other side of it, you get you have other side of it, you get you have other side of it, you get you have access to amazing teaching and access to amazing teaching and access to amazing teaching and information.

information. information. Uh Uh Uh and and then that has the downside and and then that has the downside and and then that has the downside because you have ready access to all because you have ready access to all because you have ready access to all sorts of of subversive information. But sorts of of subversive information. But sorts of of subversive information. But But um But um But um there's still students that seek the there's still students that seek the there's still students that seek the Lord and love the Lord and some that Lord and love the Lord and some that Lord and love the Lord and some that don't. So So pretty much it's the same. don't. So So pretty much it's the same. don't. So So pretty much it's the same. I don't know what the what AI is going I don't know what the what AI is going I don't know what the what AI is going to do to careers and things like that. to do to careers and things like that. to do to careers and things like that. The The The things are still things are still things are still in a state of confusion on that. There's in a state of confusion on that. There's in a state of confusion on that. There's a lot of jobs going away in coding a lot of jobs going away in coding a lot of jobs going away in coding because it was coders, people who write because it was coders, people who write because it was coders, people who write computer code that built AI. And so the computer code that built AI. And so the computer code that built AI. And so the the thing that AI does best is to write the thing that AI does best is to write the thing that AI does best is to write computer code. So you don't need coders computer code. So you don't need coders computer code. So you don't need coders anymore. Your AI can write your code for anymore. Your AI can write your code for anymore. Your AI can write your code for you. So there's it went from a massive you. So there's it went from a massive you. So there's it went from a massive amount of hiring in computer coding to amount of hiring in computer coding to amount of hiring in computer coding to now much less hiring in that area. Um now much less hiring in that area. Um now much less hiring in that area. Um I I again don't know what the future's I I again don't know what the future's I I again don't know what the future's going to be like when full self-driving going to be like when full self-driving going to be like when full self-driving comes to trucks, which is essentially comes to trucks, which is essentially comes to trucks, which is essentially here already.

here already. here already. Uh so many people are employed driving Uh so many people are employed driving Uh so many people are employed driving trucks. I don't know what's going to trucks. I don't know what's going to trucks. I don't know what's going to happen. happen. happen. Um Um Um but I do know that that but I do know that that but I do know that that um um um Jesus loves us and he has a plan for us. Jesus loves us and he has a plan for us. Jesus loves us and he has a plan for us. And if you're in the word of God and And if you're in the word of God and And if you're in the word of God and what I tell students is that if you are what I tell students is that if you are what I tell students is that if you are in the scriptures every day, in the scriptures every day, in the scriptures every day, the Bible makes several promises. the Bible makes several promises. the Bible makes several promises. Several promises. If you're in the Several promises. If you're in the Several promises. If you're in the scriptures every day. And I don't know scriptures every day. And I don't know scriptures every day. And I don't know if if you knew this that every day is if if you knew this that every day is if if you knew this that every day is not Monday, Wednesday, Friday. not Monday, Wednesday, Friday. not Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Every day has a real meaning. Every day has a real meaning. Every day has a real meaning. And the Bible puts it in two ways, every And the Bible puts it in two ways, every And the Bible puts it in two ways, every day or day and night. The Bible puts it. day or day and night. The Bible puts it. day or day and night. The Bible puts it. As Psalm 1, Psalm 119 verse 97 through As Psalm 1, Psalm 119 verse 97 through As Psalm 1, Psalm 119 verse 97 through 100, Psalm 112 verse 1 and 2, Joshua 1 100, Psalm 112 verse 1 and 2, Joshua 1 100, Psalm 112 verse 1 and 2, Joshua 1 chapter chapter chapter Joshua 1 verses 8 and 9. All of these Joshua 1 verses 8 and 9. All of these Joshua 1 verses 8 and 9. All of these over and over again stressing the over and over again stressing the over and over again stressing the blessings that come if you're in the blessings that come if you're in the blessings that come if you're in the scriptures every day, every day, every scriptures every day, every day, every scriptures every day, every day, every day. If you're in the scriptures every day. If you're in the scriptures every day. If you're in the scriptures every day, there blessings that come. I'll go day, there blessings that come. I'll go day, there blessings that come. I'll go through that list again. Joshua chapter through that list again. Joshua chapter through that list again. Joshua chapter 1 verse 8 and 9.

1 verse 8 and 9. 1 verse 8 and 9. Joshua chapter 1 verse 8 and 9. Joshua chapter 1 verse 8 and 9. Joshua chapter 1 verse 8 and 9. Psalm 1 Psalm 1 Psalm 1 That's all of Psalm 1. That's all of Psalm 1. That's all of Psalm 1. Psalm 112 Psalm 112 Psalm 112 verse 1 and 2. Psalm 112 verse 1 and 2. verse 1 and 2. Psalm 112 verse 1 and 2. verse 1 and 2. Psalm 112 verse 1 and 2. And and um What was the other one that I was What was the other one that I was saying? saying? saying? Psalm 119 Did I say Psalm 119 verse 97 Psalm 119 Did I say Psalm 119 verse 97 Psalm 119 Did I say Psalm 119 verse 97 through 100? through 100? through 100? And and And and And and the Bible talks about what happens if the Bible talks about what happens if the Bible talks about what happens if you're in the word of God every day. you're in the word of God every day. you're in the word of God every day. And then in in Deuteronomy Deuteronomy And then in in Deuteronomy Deuteronomy And then in in Deuteronomy Deuteronomy chapter I believe it's chapter uh chapter I believe it's chapter uh chapter I believe it's chapter uh uh uh uh 19. If it's not chapter 19, it's chapter 19. If it's not chapter 19, it's chapter 19. If it's not chapter 19, it's chapter 17. It talks about the king how the king 17. It talks about the king how the king 17. It talks about the king how the king when you get a king and install him, he when you get a king and install him, he when you get a king and install him, he should take a copy. He should write his should take a copy. He should write his should take a copy. He should write his own copy own copy own copy of the scriptures and the Levitical of the scriptures and the Levitical of the scriptures and the Levitical priests are to check it to make sure priests are to check it to make sure priests are to check it to make sure it's accurate and he is to read it every it's accurate and he is to read it every it's accurate and he is to read it every day of his life.

day of his life. day of his life. And if he reads it every day of his And if he reads it every day of his And if he reads it every day of his life, it's going to keep him from life, it's going to keep him from life, it's going to keep him from exalting himself above his subjects. exalting himself above his subjects. exalting himself above his subjects. And it's going so it'll keep him from And it's going so it'll keep him from And it's going so it'll keep him from pride. pride. pride. And and his children will walk And and his children will walk And and his children will walk in the proper ways if he does that. Over in the proper ways if he does that. Over in the proper ways if he does that. Over and over again are the promises. Psalm and over again are the promises. Psalm and over again are the promises. Psalm 112 verse 1 and 2 tells us how. Our 112 verse 1 and 2 tells us how. Our 112 verse 1 and 2 tells us how. Our children will become mighty mighty on children will become mighty mighty on children will become mighty mighty on this earth. If we delight ourselves in the Lord, so If we delight ourselves in the Lord, so if you delight yourself in the Lord, if you delight yourself in the Lord, if you delight yourself in the Lord, your children will be mighty on this your children will be mighty on this your children will be mighty on this earth. Psalm 112:1-2. earth. Psalm 112:1-2. earth. Psalm 112:1-2. And and um And and um And and um you know, I've seen this. I've seen you know, I've seen this. I've seen you know, I've seen this. I've seen this. I mean, my I've four children and this. I mean, my I've four children and this. I mean, my I've four children and and one is a sociologist. She's up at and one is a sociologist. She's up at and one is a sociologist. She's up at the University of Michigan. Another one the University of Michigan. Another one the University of Michigan. Another one is an attorney here in Houston. is an attorney here in Houston. is an attorney here in Houston. Another one is a physician in urgent Another one is a physician in urgent Another one is a physician in urgent care physician in Las Vegas and another care physician in Las Vegas and another care physician in Las Vegas and another one's in private equity in New York and one's in private equity in New York and one's in private equity in New York and all of them have all of them have all of them have just just just become mighty on this just just just become mighty on this just just just become mighty on this earth.

And that comes by every day in the word And that comes by every day in the word of God and I mean every day. And and of God and I mean every day. And and of God and I mean every day. And and before you start your day before you before you start your day before you before you start your day before you start your day start your day start your day you spend at least 15 minutes. It'll you spend at least 15 minutes. It'll you spend at least 15 minutes. It'll grow after that, but start with 15 grow after that, but start with 15 grow after that, but start with 15 minutes in the word of God before you minutes in the word of God before you minutes in the word of God before you start your day. You can get a cup of start your day. You can get a cup of start your day. You can get a cup of coffee, you can wash up, but before you coffee, you can wash up, but before you coffee, you can wash up, but before you leave your home, before you go about leave your home, before you go about leave your home, before you go about your daily activities, if you got kids, your daily activities, if you got kids, your daily activities, if you got kids, you got to wake up early. I just woke up you got to wake up early. I just woke up you got to wake up early. I just woke up very early. very early. very early. And you know, kids wake up early And you know, kids wake up early And you know, kids wake up early sometimes. I just woke up before them. I sometimes. I just woke up before them. I sometimes. I just woke up before them. I just woke up early and got my time with just woke up early and got my time with just woke up early and got my time with the Lord. the Lord. the Lord. And if they got up early, they knew And if they got up early, they knew And if they got up early, they knew where their dad was going to be. He was where their dad was going to be. He was where their dad was going to be. He was going to be right there at the bottom of going to be right there at the bottom of going to be right there at the bottom of the steps the steps the steps on his knees with the Bible. That's on his knees with the Bible. That's on his knees with the Bible. That's where they would see their dad if they where they would see their dad if they where they would see their dad if they happened to wake up early. happened to wake up early. happened to wake up early. Um that's where I was. And and Um that's where I was. And and Um that's where I was. And and that's the most important thing. If I that's the most important thing. If I that's the most important thing. If I could leave you with one thing, one could leave you with one thing, one could leave you with one thing, one thing thing thing it is that. Every day in the word of it is that. Every day in the word of it is that. Every day in the word of God. If you're every day in the word of God. If you're every day in the word of God. If you're every day in the word of God, so much else falls into place and God, so much else falls into place and God, so much else falls into place and you read those promises that happen when you read those promises that happen when you read those promises that happen when you're every day in the word of God.

you're every day in the word of God. you're every day in the word of God. Read those promises I gave you. Not my Read those promises I gave you. Not my Read those promises I gave you. Not my promise to you. It is God's promise. So So I imagine And I imagine And I imagine And probably some people in here who are probably some people in here who are probably some people in here who are thinking thinking thinking not I mean yes I understand like that not I mean yes I understand like that not I mean yes I understand like that charge is to us also but thinking like charge is to us also but thinking like charge is to us also but thinking like of husbands and thinking I would love if of husbands and thinking I would love if of husbands and thinking I would love if my husband would do that. I would love my husband would do that. I would love my husband would do that. I would love if my husband would lead our family that if my husband would lead our family that if my husband would lead our family that way. way. way. What would you say to them to encourage What would you say to them to encourage What would you say to them to encourage them? I'm not so sure there's so much you can I'm not so sure there's so much you can say. When I think of what the scriptures tell When I think of what the scriptures tell a wife to do a wife to do a wife to do it's not lecture their husband. it's not lecture their husband. it's not lecture their husband. It it's let them see something in your It it's let them see something in your It it's let them see something in your own life. own life. own life. You know You know You know my my wife is tremendous. my my wife is tremendous. my my wife is tremendous. But I'll tell you what really helped her But I'll tell you what really helped her But I'll tell you what really helped her to get in this daily pattern of being in to get in this daily pattern of being in to get in this daily pattern of being in the word of God the word of God the word of God was seeing me in the word of God every was seeing me in the word of God every was seeing me in the word of God every morning. Every morning.

morning. Every morning. morning. Every morning. And and and I I would I would prime the And and and I I would I would prime the And and and I I would I would prime the pump. I'd bring her a cup of her pump. I'd bring her a cup of her pump. I'd bring her a cup of her favorite she she her cup of tea is not favorite she she her cup of tea is not favorite she she her cup of tea is not just a tea bag just a tea bag just a tea bag two tea bags two tea bags two tea bags like six different spices about that much milk about that much milk and and and and and and so it's it's it's a cup of chai I have so it's it's it's a cup of chai I have so it's it's it's a cup of chai I have to bring her but I bring it to her to to bring her but I bring it to her to to bring her but I bring it to her to this day every morning and I bring it by this day every morning and I bring it by this day every morning and I bring it by her bedside at 5:00 a.m. her bedside at 5:00 a.m. her bedside at 5:00 a.m. And her Bible is right there and so I And her Bible is right there and so I And her Bible is right there and so I help her with that. help her with that. help her with that. And she has her own time from 5:00 to And she has her own time from 5:00 to And she has her own time from 5:00 to 5:30 and she has done this for 30 years. 5:30 and she has done this for 30 years. 5:30 and she has done this for 30 years. Um more than 30 years she's done this. Um more than 30 years she's done this. Um more than 30 years she's done this. 40 years she's done this. 40 years she's done this. 40 years she's done this. And so And so And so it took her a few years to watch my it took her a few years to watch my it took her a few years to watch my pattern. pattern. pattern. And she got it. And then there were And she got it. And then there were And she got it. And then there were other days you know I I'm like a other days you know I I'm like a other days you know I I'm like a machine. I was there with the kids at machine. I was there with the kids at machine. I was there with the kids at 5:30 every morning I was waking them up. 5:30 every morning I was waking them up. 5:30 every morning I was waking them up. But I couldn't force my wife to come to But I couldn't force my wife to come to But I couldn't force my wife to come to these times.

these times. these times. But after a few months of her seeing But after a few months of her seeing But after a few months of her seeing my time with the kids, my time with the kids, my time with the kids, she started coming, too. She didn't miss she started coming, too. She didn't miss she started coming, too. She didn't miss it, either. it, either. it, either. Now, when I was traveling, the kids Now, when I was traveling, the kids Now, when I was traveling, the kids would tell me that they didn't like it would tell me that they didn't like it would tell me that they didn't like it as much when Mom did it. as much when Mom did it. as much when Mom did it. They said she she just reads a verse They said she she just reads a verse They said she she just reads a verse here and there. I mean, they like here and there. I mean, they like here and there. I mean, they like structure. structure. structure. And that's what I like. I like And that's what I like. I like And that's what I like. I like structure. But So, I'm not sure what you structure. But So, I'm not sure what you structure. But So, I'm not sure what you can do so much can do so much can do so much for your husband other than to for your husband other than to for your husband other than to demonstrate to your husband what what you would like to see him what what you would like to see him doing. doing. doing. Where you would get up and spend time in Where you would get up and spend time in Where you would get up and spend time in the word of God. the word of God. the word of God. And and uh And and uh And and uh you know, bring him a cup of coffee in you know, bring him a cup of coffee in you know, bring him a cup of coffee in the morning and his Bible. the morning and his Bible. the morning and his Bible. And and don't say a word. And and don't say a word. And and don't say a word. And then start that daily practice And then start that daily practice And then start that daily practice Monday through Friday with your kids Monday through Friday with your kids Monday through Friday with your kids of um waking them up early before the of um waking them up early before the of um waking them up early before the day starts and having that quiet time. I day starts and having that quiet time. I day starts and having that quiet time. I think if you do that for 6 months, think if you do that for 6 months, think if you do that for 6 months, Monday through Friday, he's going to Monday through Friday, he's going to Monday through Friday, he's going to come and start joining you.

come and start joining you. come and start joining you. And uh um And uh um And uh um and hopefully he'll he'll pick up and and hopefully he'll he'll pick up and and hopefully he'll he'll pick up and and start leading it after a while. and start leading it after a while. and start leading it after a while. That's that's the hope and prayer. Okay. Okay. So, no nagging, that's what you're So, no nagging, that's what you're So, no nagging, that's what you're saying. saying. saying. >> Yeah, and and and and and let me let me >> Yeah, and and and and and let me let me >> Yeah, and and and and and let me let me say one other thing. I I don't know that say one other thing. I I don't know that say one other thing. I I don't know that it is a problem in here, but I would it is a problem in here, but I would it is a problem in here, but I would surprise be surprised if it is not. surprise be surprised if it is not. surprise be surprised if it is not. If your husband struggles with If your husband struggles with If your husband struggles with pornography, pornography, pornography, if you go to to my if you go to to my if you go to to my my uh my uh my uh personal website jmtour.com, personal website jmtour.com, personal website jmtour.com, jmtour.com, and and you go to personal topics audio files. you go to personal topics audio files. you go to personal topics audio files. There is a section in there called There is a section in there called There is a section in there called scriptural sexual ethics. scriptural sexual ethics. scriptural sexual ethics. In under audio files, I have a six-part In under audio files, I have a six-part In under audio files, I have a six-part teaching on scriptural sexual ethics. teaching on scriptural sexual ethics. teaching on scriptural sexual ethics. And you have to listen to parts one And you have to listen to parts one And you have to listen to parts one through six. It's just like 30-minute through six. It's just like 30-minute through six. It's just like 30-minute It's six teachings, 30 minutes per It's six teachings, 30 minutes per It's six teachings, 30 minutes per teaching, roughly.

teaching, roughly. teaching, roughly. And you listen part one. And you listen part one. And you listen part one. When you're done with that, you do part When you're done with that, you do part When you're done with that, you do part two. So, you listen in order, or else it two. So, you listen in order, or else it two. So, you listen in order, or else it won't make sense. won't make sense. won't make sense. Go through that. Go through that. Go through that. And then if your husband struggles with And then if your husband struggles with And then if your husband struggles with pornography, pornography, pornography, ask him to go through it as well. ask him to go through it as well. ask him to go through it as well. And And uh there have been men that have And And uh there have been men that have And And uh there have been men that have been delivered from pornography by been delivered from pornography by been delivered from pornography by listening to that. listening to that. listening to that. Um if Um if Um if One of the things that I say in that is One of the things that I say in that is One of the things that I say in that is that is that that is that that is that the Christian bedroom can be hell on the Christian bedroom can be hell on the Christian bedroom can be hell on earth. earth. earth. If you would listen to that along with If you would listen to that along with If you would listen to that along with your spouse, your spouse, your spouse, this will change a lot of things for this will change a lot of things for this will change a lot of things for you. you. you. Uh if if the bedroom has become hell on Uh if if the bedroom has become hell on Uh if if the bedroom has become hell on earth, earth, earth, and um and um and um I have people write to me that it was a I have people write to me that it was a I have people write to me that it was a psychological blitzkrieg. psychological blitzkrieg. psychological blitzkrieg. And it it just changed. And I have a lot And it it just changed. And I have a lot And it it just changed. And I have a lot of kids of kids of kids named James named after me as a result named James named after me as a result named James named after me as a result of relationships that changed from of relationships that changed from of relationships that changed from listening to that series.

listening to that series. listening to that series. Uh uh so, Uh uh so, Uh uh so, they name they name uh their sons after they name they name uh their sons after they name they name uh their sons after me, they name their daughters after my me, they name their daughters after my me, they name their daughters after my wife. wife. wife. All right. Well, that's the significant All right. Well, that's the significant All right. Well, that's the significant disclaimer that you got to include disclaimer that you got to include disclaimer that you got to include beforehand. beforehand. beforehand. But, okay. But, okay. But, okay. Um okay, so if anybody has questions, Um okay, so if anybody has questions, Um okay, so if anybody has questions, we're going to grab them in 1 second. we're going to grab them in 1 second. we're going to grab them in 1 second. So, Susan and Shells, where are you? So, Susan and Shells, where are you? So, Susan and Shells, where are you? Yeah, will you all grab any questions? Yeah, will you all grab any questions? Yeah, will you all grab any questions? So, while they're picking those up, um So, while they're picking those up, um So, while they're picking those up, um if you had to try to If you had to if you had to try to If you had to if you had to try to If you had to guess, guess, guess, I don't even know if this is possible I don't even know if this is possible I don't even know if this is possible for you to say this, but if you had to for you to say this, but if you had to for you to say this, but if you had to guess how God created the universe guess how God created the universe guess how God created the universe like generally, what what do you think like generally, what what do you think like generally, what what do you think happened? Well, God clearly God spoke it happened? Well, God clearly God spoke it happened? Well, God clearly God spoke it into existence. into existence. into existence. He spoke it into existence and He spoke it into existence and He spoke it into existence and and and and between Genesis chapter 1 verse 1 and between Genesis chapter 1 verse 1 and between Genesis chapter 1 verse 1 and Genesis chapter 1 verse 2 Genesis chapter 1 verse 2 Genesis chapter 1 verse 2 there's there seems to be some sort of there's there seems to be some sort of there's there seems to be some sort of change.

change. change. Uh so something something went on there Uh so something something went on there Uh so something something went on there and something more is revealed in Isaiah and something more is revealed in Isaiah and something more is revealed in Isaiah chapter 45 where he talks a little bit chapter 45 where he talks a little bit chapter 45 where he talks a little bit about that. But but uh he he spoke it. about that. But but uh he he spoke it. about that. But but uh he he spoke it. He does not tell us exactly how the He does not tell us exactly how the He does not tell us exactly how the atoms came together, what the forces atoms came together, what the forces atoms came together, what the forces were that were involved. You say, "Well, were that were involved. You say, "Well, were that were involved. You say, "Well, it was obviously the hand of God." I got it was obviously the hand of God." I got it was obviously the hand of God." I got you. It's the hand of God. God God does you. It's the hand of God. God God does you. It's the hand of God. God God does all these things, but but I I he he all these things, but but I I he he all these things, but but I I he he didn't describe to us didn't describe to us didn't describe to us the forces and this is what science the forces and this is what science the forces and this is what science allows us to explore. What are the allows us to explore. What are the allows us to explore. What are the nature What's the nature of the forces nature What's the nature of the forces nature What's the nature of the forces that hold an atom together, that cause that hold an atom together, that cause that hold an atom together, that cause the protons to to draw in these the protons to to draw in these the protons to to draw in these electrons that keep going around them? electrons that keep going around them? electrons that keep going around them? So as scientists, we get to study these So as scientists, we get to study these So as scientists, we get to study these things. Yet yes, they hold together by things. Yet yes, they hold together by things. Yet yes, they hold together by the power of his hand. For some people, the power of his hand. For some people, the power of his hand. For some people, they are content with that. With the they are content with that. With the they are content with that. With the scientist, they're not content with scientist, they're not content with scientist, they're not content with that. I'm happy. Yes, that that is true. that. I'm happy. Yes, that that is true. that. I'm happy. Yes, that that is true. But I want a little more detail here. But I want a little more detail here. But I want a little more detail here. And and uh And and uh And and uh so so uh so so uh so so uh that's what scientists do. We kind of that's what scientists do. We kind of that's what scientists do. We kind of try to study the details of what he left try to study the details of what he left try to study the details of what he left out in the Bible and he has graciously out in the Bible and he has graciously out in the Bible and he has graciously allowed so for us to study so much that allowed so for us to study so much that allowed so for us to study so much that is not written in the Bible to see how is not written in the Bible to see how is not written in the Bible to see how grand of a God he is grand of a God he is grand of a God he is and we discover things and we're like, and we discover things and we're like, and we discover things and we're like, "Wow, so that's how you did it."

"Wow, so that's how you did it." "Wow, so that's how you did it." And and that's amazing. So so um And and that's amazing. So so um And and that's amazing. So so um you know, that's a very big question and you know, that's a very big question and you know, that's a very big question and that is the universe form. that is the universe form. that is the universe form. There's a lot of different forces going There's a lot of different forces going There's a lot of different forces going on there. on there. on there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm super happy to report that all the I'm super happy to report that all the I'm super happy to report that all the questions that I asked off of my list questions that I asked off of my list questions that I asked off of my list because I didn't think we had time, it's because I didn't think we had time, it's because I didn't think we had time, it's all the same questions you all want to all the same questions you all want to all the same questions you all want to know, so that makes me happy. know, so that makes me happy. know, so that makes me happy. First one is my 10-year-old has already First one is my 10-year-old has already First one is my 10-year-old has already asked me about how we came from monkeys. asked me about how we came from monkeys. asked me about how we came from monkeys. What do we tell our children about this What do we tell our children about this What do we tell our children about this and the science they are learning at and the science they are learning at and the science they are learning at school? Yeah, so we didn't come from school? Yeah, so we didn't come from school? Yeah, so we didn't come from monkeys and scientists don't even say monkeys and scientists don't even say monkeys and scientists don't even say that, but they will say that we have a that, but they will say that we have a that, but they will say that we have a common ancestor. So, in other words, common ancestor. So, in other words, common ancestor. So, in other words, monkeys are over here, monkeys are over here, monkeys are over here, chimpanzees are over here, humans are chimpanzees are over here, humans are chimpanzees are over here, humans are over here. over here. over here. We came from a common ancestor, meaning We came from a common ancestor, meaning We came from a common ancestor, meaning there there was an organism up here that there there was an organism up here that there there was an organism up here that branched off to chimpanzees, that branched off to chimpanzees, that branched off to chimpanzees, that branched off to humans. So, not So, even branched off to humans. So, not So, even branched off to humans. So, not So, even scientists don't say that humans came scientists don't say that humans came scientists don't say that humans came from the chimpanzees. We're not on the from the chimpanzees. We're not on the from the chimpanzees. We're not on the same we come from a common ancestor, same we come from a common ancestor, same we come from a common ancestor, that's what they say.

that's what they say. that's what they say. We were told for many years that our We were told for many years that our We were told for many years that our DNA, our genome, DNA, our genome, DNA, our genome, was was was was was was 98.5% 98.5% 98.5% the same as the chimpanzee. the same as the chimpanzee. the same as the chimpanzee. In 2025, a paper came out. This has been In 2025, a paper came out. This has been In 2025, a paper came out. This has been revisited and our revisited and our revisited and our our DNA is is is our DNA is is is our DNA is is is is is is 84% the same as the chimpanzee. From 84% the same as the chimpanzee. From 84% the same as the chimpanzee. From telomere to telomere, end to end, it's telomere to telomere, end to end, it's telomere to telomere, end to end, it's been studied now. It's 84%. So, there's been studied now. It's 84%. So, there's been studied now. It's 84%. So, there's 15% that 16% that is different. That is 15% that 16% that is different. That is 15% that 16% that is different. That is huge. 16% difference in a DNA code is huge. 16% difference in a DNA code is huge. 16% difference in a DNA code is huge, but that's only of the huge, but that's only of the huge, but that's only of the protein-coding DNA, meaning the DNA that protein-coding DNA, meaning the DNA that protein-coding DNA, meaning the DNA that prescribes for the building of the prescribes for the building of the prescribes for the building of the enzymes that do the major constructions. enzymes that do the major constructions. enzymes that do the major constructions. Only about 1% of our DNA is Only about 1% of our DNA is Only about 1% of our DNA is protein-coding DNA. protein-coding DNA. protein-coding DNA. 99% is something else. It used to be 99% is something else. It used to be 99% is something else. It used to be called junk DNA. And scientists said, called junk DNA. And scientists said, called junk DNA. And scientists said, "Well, that's residues from evolution.

"Well, that's residues from evolution. "Well, that's residues from evolution. It's It's It's It was not junk. They no longer use that It was not junk. They no longer use that It was not junk. They no longer use that term junk DNA. They used They're calling term junk DNA. They used They're calling term junk DNA. They used They're calling it what's called intergenic DNA. it what's called intergenic DNA. it what's called intergenic DNA. And they're finding that the intergenic And they're finding that the intergenic And they're finding that the intergenic DNA has huge regulatory function. DNA has huge regulatory function. DNA has huge regulatory function. Meaning that these are the traffic cops Meaning that these are the traffic cops Meaning that these are the traffic cops that say, "You go now. You go now. You that say, "You go now. You go now. You that say, "You go now. You go now. You go You turn on. You turn on." That's go You turn on. You turn on." That's go You turn on. You turn on." That's That's 99% of our DNA is not That's 99% of our DNA is not That's 99% of our DNA is not protein-coding. protein-coding. protein-coding. Only 1% of our DNA is what does the Only 1% of our DNA is what does the Only 1% of our DNA is what does the major construction. 99% is traffic cops major construction. 99% is traffic cops major construction. 99% is traffic cops directing things. That's hugely directing things. That's hugely directing things. That's hugely different than all other organisms. So, different than all other organisms. So, different than all other organisms. So, this idea that we are so close to the this idea that we are so close to the this idea that we are so close to the chimpanzee is incorrect. chimpanzee is incorrect. chimpanzee is incorrect. Now, Now, Now, any designer, any designer, will take any designer, any designer, will take any designer, any designer, will take features from one thing and use it in features from one thing and use it in features from one thing and use it in another and in another and another. You another and in another and another. You another and in another and another. You have electric vehicles. You look at a have electric vehicles. You look at a have electric vehicles. You look at a Tesla. A Tesla still got four wheels. Tesla. A Tesla still got four wheels. Tesla. A Tesla still got four wheels. It's still got four tires.

It's still got four tires. It's still got four tires. It's still got a frame. So, it's taken It's still got a frame. So, it's taken It's still got a frame. So, it's taken so many things from the internal so many things from the internal so many things from the internal combustion engine combustion engine combustion engine cars. Now, it changes things. Any cars. Now, it changes things. Any cars. Now, it changes things. Any designer takes common features and puts designer takes common features and puts designer takes common features and puts it between them. This is natural. This it between them. This is natural. This it between them. This is natural. This means we have a common designer. The means we have a common designer. The means we have a common designer. The chimpanzees and the human beings have a chimpanzees and the human beings have a chimpanzees and the human beings have a common designer. That is normal. We common designer. That is normal. We common designer. That is normal. We should have that. We should have that. should have that. We should have that. should have that. We should have that. You take features that are strong. You take features that are strong. You take features that are strong. Anytime I want to design something new, Anytime I want to design something new, Anytime I want to design something new, you look at, okay, what's the method? you look at, okay, what's the method? you look at, okay, what's the method? What's the design that is done now? What's the design that is done now? What's the design that is done now? Okay, what can I do now to improve upon Okay, what can I do now to improve upon Okay, what can I do now to improve upon this by bringing in my new gadget into this by bringing in my new gadget into this by bringing in my new gadget into this? And so, I can take out all these this? And so, I can take out all these this? And so, I can take out all these other parts. But, you start with the other parts. But, you start with the other parts. But, you start with the existing design. Any designer does that. existing design. Any designer does that. existing design. Any designer does that. And this is exactly what God does. And this is exactly what God does. And this is exactly what God does. And it has the hallmarks of a common And it has the hallmarks of a common And it has the hallmarks of a common designer. designer. designer. We all We all are built on the structure We all We all are built on the structure We all We all are built on the structure of cells. of cells. of cells. From from from From from from From from from every organism. We We all have the every organism. We We all have the every organism. We We all have the cellular structure. And and so, whether cellular structure. And and so, whether cellular structure. And and so, whether it's even a bacterium versus a human it's even a bacterium versus a human it's even a bacterium versus a human cell, I mean, we still have a lipid cell, I mean, we still have a lipid cell, I mean, we still have a lipid bilayer. We still have DNA. And and bilayer. We still have DNA. And and bilayer. We still have DNA. And and so, we still have these these kind of so, we still have these these kind of so, we still have these these kind of structures. So, it's it's very common.

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Thank you so much. Thank you so much. The The biggest question from my The The biggest question from my The The biggest question from my children is where do dinosaurs fit into children is where do dinosaurs fit into children is where do dinosaurs fit into the creation story? I would love to know the creation story? I would love to know the creation story? I would love to know your thoughts on that. your thoughts on that. your thoughts on that. >> Yeah. So, >> Yeah. So, >> Yeah. So, so, so, so, people will look at the Bible and they people will look at the Bible and they people will look at the Bible and they will say that the Earth is 6,300 will say that the Earth is 6,300 will say that the Earth is 6,300 years old because they will track back years old because they will track back years old because they will track back the the the the lifetimes of the people. the lifetimes of the people. the lifetimes of the people. And this is what I mentioned in So, if And this is what I mentioned in So, if And this is what I mentioned in So, if if that's where you want to go, if that's where you want to go, if that's where you want to go, what we know scientifically, what we know scientifically, what we know scientifically, humans as we know them are only about 50 humans as we know them are only about 50 humans as we know them are only about 50 to 100,000 years old. to 100,000 years old. to 100,000 years old. Humans as we know them. And when I say Humans as we know them. And when I say Humans as we know them. And when I say humans as we know them, where they have humans as we know them, where they have humans as we know them, where they have art, culture, music, burying the dead, art, culture, music, burying the dead, art, culture, music, burying the dead, burying the dead with trinkets and burying the dead with trinkets and burying the dead with trinkets and things and things and things and So, humans as we know them are only So, humans as we know them are only So, humans as we know them are only 50,000 to 100,000 years old. 50,000 to 100,000 years old. 50,000 to 100,000 years old. Let's take that lower number of 50,000. Let's take that lower number of 50,000. Let's take that lower number of 50,000. The number 50,000 is not that much The number 50,000 is not that much The number 50,000 is not that much different than 6,000 when we are talking different than 6,000 when we are talking different than 6,000 when we are talking about geological time frames. That's about geological time frames. That's about geological time frames. That's very, very close. So, if you take a man very, very close. So, if you take a man very, very close. So, if you take a man and you say he's 6 ft tall and you take and you say he's 6 ft tall and you take and you say he's 6 ft tall and you take another man who's 5'11", I mean, these another man who's 5'11", I mean, these another man who's 5'11", I mean, these are very close. They're very close.

are very close. They're very close. are very close. They're very close. 6,000 and 50,000 are very close when 6,000 and 50,000 are very close when 6,000 and 50,000 are very close when you're talking about a geological time you're talking about a geological time you're talking about a geological time frame. Humans as we know them. Human frame. Humans as we know them. Human frame. Humans as we know them. Human history Human history is only about history Human history is only about history Human history is only about 5,000 years old. The 5,000 years old. The 5,000 years old. The Any anything that we have a record of Any anything that we have a record of Any anything that we have a record of human history. I'm talking in in fossil human history. I'm talking in in fossil human history. I'm talking in in fossil record as we know them, human history is record as we know them, human history is record as we know them, human history is is say 50,000 to 100,000 years old and is say 50,000 to 100,000 years old and is say 50,000 to 100,000 years old and that's it. When when they have art, that's it. When when they have art, that's it. When when they have art, culture, music, musical instruments, culture, music, musical instruments, culture, music, musical instruments, humans as we know them. humans as we know them. humans as we know them. So, it's not that far off of what the So, it's not that far off of what the So, it's not that far off of what the Bible says. Bible says. Bible says. There is good There is good There is good scriptural evidence that between Genesis scriptural evidence that between Genesis scriptural evidence that between Genesis chapter 1, verse 1 and Genesis chapter chapter 1, verse 1 and Genesis chapter chapter 1, verse 1 and Genesis chapter 1, verse 3, when the earth was formless 1, verse 3, when the earth was formless 1, verse 3, when the earth was formless and void, that there was a gap. So, and void, that there was a gap. So, and void, that there was a gap. So, there was a gap between the formation of there was a gap between the formation of there was a gap between the formation of the earth and then the coming on of of the earth and then the coming on of of the earth and then the coming on of of of of of of biological life as we know it. of biological life as we know it. of biological life as we know it. And then at the end of the biological And then at the end of the biological And then at the end of the biological life development was humans came along. life development was humans came along. life development was humans came along. On the sixth day, the humans come along.

On the sixth day, the humans come along. On the sixth day, the humans come along. So so So so So so what happened in that void? When you what happened in that void? When you what happened in that void? When you read in Isaiah chapter 45, it says God read in Isaiah chapter 45, it says God read in Isaiah chapter 45, it says God created the earth perfect. He didn't created the earth perfect. He didn't created the earth perfect. He didn't create it formless. create it formless. create it formless. Well, how come it says in in chapter Well, how come it says in in chapter Well, how come it says in in chapter 1 of Genesis verse 2, the earth was was 1 of Genesis verse 2, the earth was was 1 of Genesis verse 2, the earth was was void, it was formless and void as if void, it was formless and void as if void, it was formless and void as if there was a destruction at that point. there was a destruction at that point. there was a destruction at that point. And there are scriptures that could well And there are scriptures that could well And there are scriptures that could well be read that that's when Satan was be read that that's when Satan was be read that that's when Satan was thrown down. thrown down. thrown down. There could well have been a gap between There could well have been a gap between There could well have been a gap between the formation of the earth and the human the formation of the earth and the human the formation of the earth and the human race. That's why I say tracking back the race. That's why I say tracking back the race. That's why I say tracking back the human race through the Bible, it's 6,000 human race through the Bible, it's 6,000 human race through the Bible, it's 6,000 years, 63, may not give you an estimate years, 63, may not give you an estimate years, 63, may not give you an estimate of where we are on the planet Earth. of where we are on the planet Earth. of where we are on the planet Earth. Planet Earth may There may have been a Planet Earth may There may have been a Planet Earth may There may have been a lot there on planet Earth that happened lot there on planet Earth that happened lot there on planet Earth that happened that then went void in Genesis chapter 1 that then went void in Genesis chapter 1 that then went void in Genesis chapter 1 verse 2, the formless and void point. verse 2, the formless and void point. verse 2, the formless and void point. Some Christians don't like that. They Some Christians don't like that. They Some Christians don't like that. They say, "No, say, "No, say, "No, the earth was formed 6,000 years ago."

the earth was formed 6,000 years ago." the earth was formed 6,000 years ago." Well, you're tracking back the humans. Well, you're tracking back the humans. Well, you're tracking back the humans. Uh what do you do with that void point? Uh what do you do with that void point? Uh what do you do with that void point? And that's not just a Jim Tour made up And that's not just a Jim Tour made up And that's not just a Jim Tour made up thing. This even thing. This even thing. This even Hebraic scholars will look at that Hebraic scholars will look at that Hebraic scholars will look at that verse 2 and talk about that. That's one verse 2 and talk about that. That's one verse 2 and talk about that. That's one theory. And and the the the dinosaurs theory. And and the the the dinosaurs theory. And and the the the dinosaurs could have come in that time. Another could have come in that time. Another could have come in that time. Another theory is that the dinosaurs were here theory is that the dinosaurs were here theory is that the dinosaurs were here earlier. Uh uh um uh but scientists will earlier. Uh uh um uh but scientists will earlier. Uh uh um uh but scientists will tell you they never overlapped with tell you they never overlapped with tell you they never overlapped with humans. Humans will say, "Well, there's humans. Humans will say, "Well, there's humans. Humans will say, "Well, there's a footprint inside a dinosaur print and a footprint inside a dinosaur print and a footprint inside a dinosaur print and and such and such happened and and and and such and such happened and and and and such and such happened and and and uh uh uh um you know, I I um you know, I I um you know, I I I don't want to have a that sort of I don't want to have a that sort of I don't want to have a that sort of controversy, but there's other ones. controversy, but there's other ones. controversy, but there's other ones. There's for example, Gerald Schroeder. There's for example, Gerald Schroeder. There's for example, Gerald Schroeder. Doesn't matter how you spell his name, Doesn't matter how you spell his name, Doesn't matter how you spell his name, Gerald Schroeder. If you type Gerald Gerald Schroeder. If you type Gerald Gerald Schroeder. If you type Gerald Schroeder age of the universe, Gerald Schroeder age of the universe, Gerald Schroeder age of the universe, Gerald Schroeder Age of the Universe. Schroeder Age of the Universe. Schroeder Age of the Universe. He is a Orthodox Jewish physicist and he He is a Orthodox Jewish physicist and he He is a Orthodox Jewish physicist and he he uh uh he uh uh he uh uh he talks about at the So we know that he talks about at the So we know that he talks about at the So we know that the universe is expanding. There are the universe is expanding. There are the universe is expanding. There are things that we know scientifically and things that we know scientifically and things that we know scientifically and if you want to doubt this, that's fine.

if you want to doubt this, that's fine. if you want to doubt this, that's fine. You doubt whatever you want. I'm not You doubt whatever you want. I'm not You doubt whatever you want. I'm not here to convince anybody. We know the here to convince anybody. We know the here to convince anybody. We know the universe is expanding. So in other universe is expanding. So in other universe is expanding. So in other words, a central point that was a words, a central point that was a words, a central point that was a blowout. The universe is expanding. blowout. The universe is expanding. blowout. The universe is expanding. Everything is moving further and further Everything is moving further and further Everything is moving further and further away from each other with time. That's away from each other with time. That's away from each other with time. That's why tomorrow will be a longer day than why tomorrow will be a longer day than why tomorrow will be a longer day than today. today. today. Very small amount because we're moving Very small amount because we're moving Very small amount because we're moving away in space. If you look at the away in space. If you look at the away in space. If you look at the origins of the universe, the origins of origins of the universe, the origins of origins of the universe, the origins of that Big Bang, things were happening that Big Bang, things were happening that Big Bang, things were happening very rapidly because you're very close very rapidly because you're very close very rapidly because you're very close in. As you get further and further out, in. As you get further and further out, in. As you get further and further out, things are moving in a relative sense things are moving in a relative sense things are moving in a relative sense much more slowly from it. So when we much more slowly from it. So when we much more slowly from it. So when we look back in time, we know the time is look back in time, we know the time is look back in time, we know the time is relative. Have you ever heard the theory relative. Have you ever heard the theory relative. Have you ever heard the theory of relativity? This is well accepted in of relativity? This is well accepted in of relativity? This is well accepted in the sciences that time is relative to the sciences that time is relative to the sciences that time is relative to where you are in the expansion of the where you are in the expansion of the where you are in the expansion of the universe. universe. universe. It depends on how fast your universe is It depends on how fast your universe is It depends on how fast your universe is expanding as to So time changes expanding as to So time changes expanding as to So time changes depending on where you are in the depending on where you are in the depending on where you are in the expansion of the universe.

expansion of the universe. expansion of the universe. At the origin of the universe, things At the origin of the universe, things At the origin of the universe, things were happening very quickly because of were happening very quickly because of were happening very quickly because of the universe was compacted. As we are the universe was compacted. As we are the universe was compacted. As we are further out, time is moving much more further out, time is moving much more further out, time is moving much more slowly. So when we look back, it looks slowly. So when we look back, it looks slowly. So when we look back, it looks like long periods of time. To them, it like long periods of time. To them, it like long periods of time. To them, it was very short periods of time. was very short periods of time. was very short periods of time. So so so uh uh when when So so so uh uh when when So so so uh uh when when they would have seen a day, for us it they would have seen a day, for us it they would have seen a day, for us it looks like a billion years. That's what looks like a billion years. That's what looks like a billion years. That's what I'm talking about. So when you What I'm talking about. So when you What I'm talking about. So when you What Gerald Schroeder did is he mapped out a Gerald Schroeder did is he mapped out a Gerald Schroeder did is he mapped out a physicist mapped out what the Bible text physicist mapped out what the Bible text physicist mapped out what the Bible text says and what what what theory of says and what what what theory of says and what what what theory of relativity would say and he correlated relativity would say and he correlated relativity would say and he correlated those. And it's really an amazing those. And it's really an amazing those. And it's really an amazing correlation. It really is. I've even had correlation. It really is. I've even had correlation. It really is. I've even had statistician friends of mine, professors statistician friends of mine, professors statistician friends of mine, professors of statistics, look this over and of statistics, look this over and of statistics, look this over and they're amazed. They say, "This they're amazed. They say, "This they're amazed. They say, "This correlation is amazing." So, you you can correlation is amazing." So, you you can correlation is amazing." So, you you can read that as well. So, there's a number read that as well. So, there's a number read that as well. So, there's a number of different theories on that. And and of different theories on that. And and of different theories on that. And and uh but there well could have been uh but there well could have been uh but there well could have been creatures here uh before us. That's why creatures here uh before us. That's why creatures here uh before us. That's why that when I hear about civilizations that when I hear about civilizations that when I hear about civilizations being found under the sea, you know, being found under the sea, you know, being found under the sea, you know, very advanced, it doesn't bother me at very advanced, it doesn't bother me at very advanced, it doesn't bother me at all. Because there's this formless and all. Because there's this formless and all. Because there's this formless and void and the earth was created perfect, void and the earth was created perfect, void and the earth was created perfect, but something happened at the throwing but something happened at the throwing but something happened at the throwing down when God threw down Satan.

down when God threw down Satan. down when God threw down Satan. And and and and the the reason he was And and and and the the reason he was And and and and the the reason he was thrown down, the Bible says it, thrown down, the Bible says it, thrown down, the Bible says it, because of his beauty. because of his beauty. because of his beauty. Because he got enamored with his own Because he got enamored with his own Because he got enamored with his own beauty. beauty. beauty. That's a lesson for us. That's a lesson for us. That's a lesson for us. But totally separate from the perfume But totally separate from the perfume But totally separate from the perfume and the oils. Yeah. and the oils. Yeah. and the oils. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, these two questions sort of kind Okay, these two questions sort of kind Okay, these two questions sort of kind of go together. Maybe not. of go together. Maybe not. of go together. Maybe not. Um Um Um What It just says what about cloning, What It just says what about cloning, What It just says what about cloning, but what but what but what What do you think about cloning? Yeah, I What do you think about cloning? Yeah, I What do you think about cloning? Yeah, I I I I I think that So, there's this I I I I think that So, there's this I I I I think that So, there's this CRISPR Cas9 that allows you to change CRISPR Cas9 that allows you to change CRISPR Cas9 that allows you to change DNA. DNA. DNA. Uh clo- cloning is is is is is Uh clo- cloning is is is is is Uh clo- cloning is is is is is duplicating structure. I mean, pe- duplicating structure. I mean, pe- duplicating structure. I mean, pe- people are doing it now with their people are doing it now with their people are doing it now with their animals. You got a dog you really love, animals. You got a dog you really love, animals. You got a dog you really love, you make a clone of that dog. And you make a clone of that dog. And you make a clone of that dog. And there's these companies that will clone there's these companies that will clone there's these companies that will clone your dog for you. your dog for you. your dog for you. It is very close to being able to clone It is very close to being able to clone It is very close to being able to clone humans. That is restricted in this humans. That is restricted in this humans. That is restricted in this country. That doesn't mean the world is country. That doesn't mean the world is country. That doesn't mean the world is restricted. There are many nation-states restricted. There are many nation-states restricted. There are many nation-states that will do this, that will develop it, that will do this, that will develop it, that will do this, that will develop it, that may develop a superhuman race one that may develop a superhuman race one that may develop a superhuman race one day. They're not restricted from doing day. They're not restricted from doing day. They're not restricted from doing this. They every nation can do whatever this. They every nation can do whatever this. They every nation can do whatever they want. Cloning, if you can clone a they want. Cloning, if you can clone a they want. Cloning, if you can clone a dog, it's very close to being able to dog, it's very close to being able to dog, it's very close to being able to clone a human.

clone a human. clone a human. Uh Will those humans have a spirit? I Uh Will those humans have a spirit? I Uh Will those humans have a spirit? I presume they will. presume they will. presume they will. It's just a presumption. And the reason It's just a presumption. And the reason It's just a presumption. And the reason I say that is you can have a I say that is you can have a I say that is you can have a a a a single fertilized egg a a a single fertilized egg a a a single fertilized egg and all of a sudden it divides. and all of a sudden it divides. and all of a sudden it divides. And now you have identical twins. And now you have identical twins. And now you have identical twins. Came from that one entity. That Came from that one entity. That Came from that one entity. That fertilized egg fertilized egg fertilized egg had a spirit that God dropped in there. had a spirit that God dropped in there. had a spirit that God dropped in there. And now this is divided and each one of And now this is divided and each one of And now this is divided and each one of those twins has a spirit. The spirit those twins has a spirit. The spirit those twins has a spirit. The spirit followed another spirit came in. They're followed another spirit came in. They're followed another spirit came in. They're spiritually they're two distinct spiritually they're two distinct spiritually they're two distinct entities. They're two distinct people. entities. They're two distinct people. entities. They're two distinct people. They're two distinct entities, but they They're two distinct entities, but they They're two distinct entities, but they still have they are identical every way still have they are identical every way still have they are identical every way genetically. genetically. genetically. Came from a common egg. God seems to drop in a spirit into that God seems to drop in a spirit into that that new individual. I presume a cloned that new individual. I presume a cloned that new individual. I presume a cloned human being God that spirit will come human being God that spirit will come human being God that spirit will come with that clone. Again, just a with that clone. Again, just a with that clone. Again, just a presumption, but I don't know. So, when presumption, but I don't know. So, when presumption, but I don't know. So, when I was listening to you talk about this I was listening to you talk about this I was listening to you talk about this on a a video, I thought what you were on a a video, I thought what you were on a a video, I thought what you were saying saying saying was that was that was that a demonic spirit would enter into No.

a demonic spirit would enter into No. a demonic spirit would enter into No. >> whatever is made. >> whatever is made. >> whatever is made. >> I would never say such a thing. Oh, >> I would never say such a thing. Oh, >> I would never say such a thing. Oh, okay. I would never say such a thing. okay. I would never say such a thing. okay. I would never say such a thing. Uh you mis- you misunderstood. Uh you mis- you misunderstood. Uh you mis- you misunderstood. Uh uh Uh uh Uh uh uh uh uh Yeah, you you might have conflated two Yeah, you you might have conflated two Yeah, you you might have conflated two different discussions I was having. Very different discussions I was having. Very different discussions I was having. Very well. Probably could have. But you don't well. Probably could have. But you don't well. Probably could have. But you don't think that's a possibility? think that's a possibility? think that's a possibility? >> No. No, I don't think that's a >> No. No, I don't think that's a >> No. No, I don't think that's a possibility. Um possibility. Um possibility. Um Well, I don't know. I I I had never Well, I don't know. I I I had never Well, I don't know. I I I had never imagined that that that you clone one imagined that that that you clone one imagined that that that you clone one and that that a demonic spirit would and that that a demonic spirit would and that that a demonic spirit would take over. I just don't know. We've take over. I just don't know. We've take over. I just don't know. We've never never never I've never met one I've never met one I've never met one that's been cloned. I'd I'd I'd I'd I'd that's been cloned. I'd I'd I'd I'd I'd that's been cloned. I'd I'd I'd I'd I'd try to get them saved. I mean, but but try to get them saved. I mean, but but try to get them saved. I mean, but but um um um Uh but the CRISPR Cas9, the ability to Uh but the CRISPR Cas9, the ability to Uh but the CRISPR Cas9, the ability to modify DNA is really amazing. You know, modify DNA is really amazing. You know, modify DNA is really amazing. You know, if if you have an autistic child and if if you have an autistic child and if if you have an autistic child and somebody says, you know, I I can I can somebody says, you know, I I can I can somebody says, you know, I I can I can change that out. You'd be like, yeah. change that out. You'd be like, yeah. change that out. You'd be like, yeah. Any day of the week. And so that is Any day of the week. And so that is Any day of the week. And so that is getting very good. And and uh will there getting very good. And and uh will there getting very good. And and uh will there be abuses of that? Always. You know, a be abuses of that? Always. You know, a be abuses of that? Always. You know, a chainsaw can be a a tool to cut down chainsaw can be a a tool to cut down chainsaw can be a a tool to cut down trees, a chainsaw can kill people.

trees, a chainsaw can kill people. trees, a chainsaw can kill people. If people can use things in different If people can use things in different If people can use things in different ways, but but that's getting very good ways, but but that's getting very good ways, but but that's getting very good now. now. now. It's not used on humans yet. Sorry, I It's not used on humans yet. Sorry, I It's not used on humans yet. Sorry, I wrote that question, but one of my I wrote that question, but one of my I wrote that question, but one of my I loved what you loved that actually, that loved what you loved that actually, that loved what you loved that actually, that was very helpful. But also, what about was very helpful. But also, what about was very helpful. But also, what about the argument where you said you couldn't the argument where you said you couldn't the argument where you said you couldn't put like a build a cell or you were put like a build a cell or you were put like a build a cell or you were talking about earlier with CRISPR as talking about earlier with CRISPR as talking about earlier with CRISPR as cloning? Yeah, yeah, cloning is not No, cloning? Yeah, yeah, cloning is not No, cloning? Yeah, yeah, cloning is not No, no. Cloning is is not generating life. no. Cloning is is not generating life. no. Cloning is is not generating life. It it it's taking from life and and and It it it's taking from life and and and It it it's taking from life and and and and and copying that life. So so you and and copying that life. So so you and and copying that life. So so you you're you're you're you're you're you're you're not making a new cell ab initio. you're not making a new cell ab initio. you're not making a new cell ab initio. You You You clo- cloning Yeah, yeah, yeah, you you clo- cloning Yeah, yeah, yeah, you you clo- cloning Yeah, yeah, yeah, you you you were just causing cells to divide in you were just causing cells to divide in you were just causing cells to divide in a different way. You you started with a different way. You you started with a different way. You you started with life. It's not an origin of life. life. It's not an origin of life. life. It's not an origin of life. Yeah, yeah, clo- clo- cloning cloning Yeah, yeah, clo- clo- cloning cloning Yeah, yeah, clo- clo- cloning cloning you can do today. I mean, I you can do today. I mean, I you can do today. I mean, I uh uh um Tom Brady, the quarterback, uh uh um Tom Brady, the quarterback, uh uh um Tom Brady, the quarterback, just got his dog cloned. just got his dog cloned. just got his dog cloned. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So does it like act like the other dog? So does it like act like the other dog? So does it like act like the other dog? I'm like just imagining like a weird I'm like just imagining like a weird I'm like just imagining like a weird vegetable dog. No, no, no, they're vegetable dog. No, no, no, they're vegetable dog. No, no, no, they're they're they're not weird vegetable they're they're not weird vegetable they're they're not weird vegetable dogs. I I don't know, you'd have to ask dogs. I I don't know, you'd have to ask dogs. I I don't know, you'd have to ask Tom Brady. I I I I I don't know if he Tom Brady. I I I I I don't know if he Tom Brady. I I I I I don't know if he acts the same. I I presume you you know, acts the same. I I presume you you know, acts the same. I I presume you you know, because because also also we are because because also also we are because because also also we are products not just of the DNA that we are products not just of the DNA that we are products not just of the DNA that we are born with, we are products of the DNA born with, we are products of the DNA born with, we are products of the DNA that it's has been inserted into our that it's has been inserted into our that it's has been inserted into our genome. So every time we have a virus, genome. So every time we have a virus, genome. So every time we have a virus, there is an insertion there is an insertion there is an insertion of DNA viral DNA into our DNA, and then of DNA viral DNA into our DNA, and then of DNA viral DNA into our DNA, and then we pass that on to our children. So So we pass that on to our children. So So we pass that on to our children. So So this is epigenetic things. There are this is epigenetic things. There are this is epigenetic things. There are things that change our genome over time.

things that change our genome over time. things that change our genome over time. So it's hard to duplicate that in So it's hard to duplicate that in So it's hard to duplicate that in another individual because they live at another individual because they live at another individual because they live at another time and space. another time and space. another time and space. So so uh um they may have the same DNA So so uh um they may have the same DNA So so uh um they may have the same DNA that they that they that they started out from the host, but now started out from the host, but now started out from the host, but now they're going to have other epigenetic they're going to have other epigenetic they're going to have other epigenetic differences, and then other behavioral differences, and then other behavioral differences, and then other behavioral differences. differences. differences. Other experiences, yeah. Other experiences, yeah. Other experiences, yeah. Okay. so this kind of piggybacks on Okay. so this kind of piggybacks on Okay. so this kind of piggybacks on that. Do you foresee or have you seen that. Do you foresee or have you seen that. Do you foresee or have you seen any of your technology or inventions any of your technology or inventions any of your technology or inventions being used to fulfill an evil agenda? If being used to fulfill an evil agenda? If being used to fulfill an evil agenda? If so, so, so, how do you how do you how do you what do you do about that? Yeah, I I've what do you do about that? Yeah, I I've what do you do about that? Yeah, I I've not seen any of my technologies used for not seen any of my technologies used for not seen any of my technologies used for that. Um that. Um that. Um we've made computer memory, we made we've made computer memory, we made we've made computer memory, we made you know, trying to treat pancreatic you know, trying to treat pancreatic you know, trying to treat pancreatic cancer. I mean, I I I've not seen cancer. I mean, I I I've not seen cancer. I mean, I I I've not seen anybody using this in an abusive way. I anybody using this in an abusive way. I anybody using this in an abusive way. I suppose if you thought about it for a suppose if you thought about it for a suppose if you thought about it for a while, you while, you while, you you you you know, some of our you you you know, some of our you you you know, some of our you you you you might be able to figure something you might be able to figure something you might be able to figure something out, but uh I haven't seen it. But I do out, but uh I haven't seen it. But I do out, but uh I haven't seen it. But I do get letters get letters get letters several times a year from people that several times a year from people that several times a year from people that tell me that that I'm either I'm the tell me that that I'm either I'm the tell me that that I'm either I'm the Antichrist or I'm going to bring on the Antichrist or I'm going to bring on the Antichrist or I'm going to bring on the Antichrist through my technologies. And Antichrist through my technologies. And Antichrist through my technologies. And so So, um yeah, I get lots of people to so So, um yeah, I get lots of people to so So, um yeah, I get lots of people to write write to me about different write write to me about different write write to me about different things. They're just imagining the things. They're just imagining the things. They're just imagining the Antichrist with those fingernail inserts Antichrist with those fingernail inserts Antichrist with those fingernail inserts on. Text me.

on. Text me. on. Text me. >> Yes. Yes. >> Yes. Yes. >> Yes. Yes. That that that was just that was That that that was just that was That that that was just that was somebody else. somebody else. somebody else. Okay. Okay. Okay. It seems like Bible creation believing It seems like Bible creation believing It seems like Bible creation believing scientists {slash} professors {slash} scientists {slash} professors {slash} scientists {slash} professors {slash} academics are few academics are few academics are few are few in in largely secular fields. are few in in largely secular fields. are few in in largely secular fields. What kind of opposition do you face in What kind of opposition do you face in What kind of opposition do you face in those fields? How free is the exchange those fields? How free is the exchange those fields? How free is the exchange of Bible-based ideas? of Bible-based ideas? of Bible-based ideas? Well, I don't bring Bible Well, I don't bring Bible Well, I don't bring Bible ideas into the classroom. ideas into the classroom. ideas into the classroom. I'll put them on social media, I'll put them on social media, I'll put them on social media, but I am paid to teach a particular but I am paid to teach a particular but I am paid to teach a particular subject, and I teach that subject. subject, and I teach that subject. subject, and I teach that subject. I do put a Bible verse on the top of I do put a Bible verse on the top of I do put a Bible verse on the top of every exam, but but um every exam, but but um every exam, but but um people, you know, put, you know, the people, you know, put, you know, the people, you know, put, you know, the quote John Lennon on the top of the quote John Lennon on the top of the quote John Lennon on the top of the exam, so I figure I could quote John the exam, so I figure I could quote John the exam, so I figure I could quote John the Baptist. I mean, uh Baptist. I mean, uh Baptist. I mean, uh uh but but um uh but but um uh but but um uh uh uh uh uh uh But, I I don't generally bring in Bible But, I I don't generally bring in Bible But, I I don't generally bring in Bible things into the classroom.

things into the classroom. things into the classroom. Um I I've shared with colleagues before. Um I I've shared with colleagues before. Um I I've shared with colleagues before. I've led colleagues to the Lord. I've led colleagues to the Lord. I've led colleagues to the Lord. Uh yeah, there are very few of us in the Uh yeah, there are very few of us in the Uh yeah, there are very few of us in the academy that that are willing to speak academy that that are willing to speak academy that that are willing to speak up. There There There's a fair amount of up. There There There's a fair amount of up. There There There's a fair amount of Christians, Christians, Christians, but those who are willing to speak up but those who are willing to speak up but those who are willing to speak up are actually a very small number. are actually a very small number. are actually a very small number. And And we're talk That's talked about And And we're talk That's talked about And And we're talk That's talked about in the Bible. It says in John chapter in the Bible. It says in John chapter in the Bible. It says in John chapter 12, "Many even of the rulers believed 12, "Many even of the rulers believed 12, "Many even of the rulers believed upon him," meaning Jesus, "but they were upon him," meaning Jesus, "but they were upon him," meaning Jesus, "but they were not confessing him for fear that they not confessing him for fear that they not confessing him for fear that they would be thrown out of the synagogue." would be thrown out of the synagogue." would be thrown out of the synagogue." So, you might say, "Okay, well, being So, you might say, "Okay, well, being So, you might say, "Okay, well, being thrown out of the synagogue is a big thrown out of the synagogue is a big thrown out of the synagogue is a big deal. It's not like you're in one church deal. It's not like you're in one church deal. It's not like you're in one church and you just go to the church across the and you just go to the church across the and you just go to the church across the street." No, you have no social street." No, you have no social street." No, you have no social interaction with your community anymore. interaction with your community anymore. interaction with your community anymore. It's a big deal. It's a big deal. It's a big deal. But, the next verse says, "Because they But, the next verse says, "Because they But, the next verse says, "Because they love the approval of men more than the love the approval of men more than the love the approval of men more than the approval of God." approval of God." approval of God." So, it seems that the Bible is not at So, it seems that the Bible is not at So, it seems that the Bible is not at all patient with people all patient with people all patient with people that will not openly confess to these that will not openly confess to these that will not openly confess to these things. So, you find a lot of people in things. So, you find a lot of people in things. So, you find a lot of people in academia that are very quiet about their academia that are very quiet about their academia that are very quiet about their faith. They don't want to say anything.

faith. They don't want to say anything. faith. They don't want to say anything. Uh and and and I think it's shameful Uh and and and I think it's shameful Uh and and and I think it's shameful that they don't want to speak up and that they don't want to speak up and that they don't want to speak up and testify of this. I think it would be testify of this. I think it would be testify of this. I think it would be very good for students to know that this very good for students to know that this very good for students to know that this faculty member really really has a deep faculty member really really has a deep faculty member really really has a deep faith. Um faith. Um faith. Um uh but they they don't want to happen to uh but they they don't want to happen to uh but they they don't want to happen to them what's happened to me. I'm not them what's happened to me. I'm not them what's happened to me. I'm not invited into certain societies, into invited into certain societies, into invited into certain societies, into into certain uh academies as a result of into certain uh academies as a result of into certain uh academies as a result of it. it. it. Uh and they've told me this. So, Uh and they've told me this. So, Uh and they've told me this. So, uh yeah, I uh yeah, I uh yeah, I Do I pay a cost? Yeah, but it's nothing. Do I pay a cost? Yeah, but it's nothing. Do I pay a cost? Yeah, but it's nothing. Everything that I've gone through is Everything that I've gone through is Everything that I've gone through is kindergarten compared to what my kindergarten compared to what my kindergarten compared to what my brothers and sisters around the world brothers and sisters around the world brothers and sisters around the world are going through for the testimony of are going through for the testimony of are going through for the testimony of their faith. their faith. their faith. Uh the worst that has ever happened to Uh the worst that has ever happened to Uh the worst that has ever happened to me is people have said things that have me is people have said things that have me is people have said things that have hurt my feelings or they've not let me hurt my feelings or they've not let me hurt my feelings or they've not let me into societies that I wished that I into societies that I wished that I into societies that I wished that I could be in. could be in. could be in. Uh, I have had some grant funding not Uh, I have had some grant funding not Uh, I have had some grant funding not come to me or something like that, but come to me or something like that, but come to me or something like that, but that's the worst. But that doesn't even that's the worst. But that doesn't even that's the worst. But that doesn't even rise to the level of persecution. In In rise to the level of persecution. In In rise to the level of persecution. In In the book of Hebrews, it says, "You have the book of Hebrews, it says, "You have the book of Hebrews, it says, "You have not yet resisted to the point of not yet resisted to the point of not yet resisted to the point of shedding blood." So that seems to be the shedding blood." So that seems to be the shedding blood." So that seems to be the threshold for being persecuted. So by threshold for being persecuted. So by threshold for being persecuted. So by biblical terms, I've not even been biblical terms, I've not even been biblical terms, I've not even been persecuted.

persecuted. persecuted. I've never shed blood for my faith. Okay. Okay. This was another question I wanted to This was another question I wanted to This was another question I wanted to ask. Uh, did your Jewish family in New ask. Uh, did your Jewish family in New ask. Uh, did your Jewish family in New York become believers? Um, York become believers? Um, York become believers? Um, well, my mother did after many years. well, my mother did after many years. well, my mother did after many years. They weren't really excited about it, as They weren't really excited about it, as They weren't really excited about it, as you can imagine. I told them right away. you can imagine. I told them right away. you can imagine. I told them right away. Uh, my mother at the age of 72 came to Uh, my mother at the age of 72 came to Uh, my mother at the age of 72 came to know the Lord. know the Lord. know the Lord. So about about 20 years in into my into So about about 20 years in into my into So about about 20 years in into my into my experience, she came to know the my experience, she came to know the my experience, she came to know the Lord. Lord. Lord. Um, Um, Um, and my father and my father and my father on his deathbed came to know the Lord at on his deathbed came to know the Lord at on his deathbed came to know the Lord at the age of 94 the age of 94 the age of 94 on his deathbed. I had prayed for him on his deathbed. I had prayed for him on his deathbed. I had prayed for him for 45 years. for 45 years. for 45 years. I read to him the entire Gospel of John. I read to him the entire Gospel of John. I read to him the entire Gospel of John. I shared with him all the time. On his I shared with him all the time. On his I shared with him all the time. On his deathbed, I said, "Dad, can I share with deathbed, I said, "Dad, can I share with deathbed, I said, "Dad, can I share with you again?" He said, "No." you again?" He said, "No." you again?" He said, "No." Right, Dad. I don't Right, Dad. I don't Right, Dad. I don't He was He just didn't want to hear it He was He just didn't want to hear it He was He just didn't want to hear it again.

again. again. And then And then And then the night nurse came, a Jamaican night the night nurse came, a Jamaican night the night nurse came, a Jamaican night nurse, and she led him to the Lord. nurse, and she led him to the Lord. nurse, and she led him to the Lord. And then he passed away about 5 days And then he passed away about 5 days And then he passed away about 5 days later. So later. So later. So after 45 years of praying for him, a after 45 years of praying for him, a after 45 years of praying for him, a Jamaican night nurse led my father to Jamaican night nurse led my father to Jamaican night nurse led my father to the Lord. the Lord. the Lord. So my parents came to the Lord, So my parents came to the Lord, So my parents came to the Lord, both of them, and I will see them again. both of them, and I will see them again. both of them, and I will see them again. Because Jesus said, "He who lives and Because Jesus said, "He who lives and Because Jesus said, "He who lives and believes in me shall live even if he believes in me shall live even if he believes in me shall live even if he dies. dies. dies. And he who lives and believes in me And he who lives and believes in me And he who lives and believes in me shall never die. shall never die. shall never die. Do you believe this? Jesus said. I Do you believe this? Jesus said. I Do you believe this? Jesus said. I believe believe believe that I will see them again. that I will see them again. that I will see them again. My brother and my sister have not yet My brother and my sister have not yet My brother and my sister have not yet come. come. come. I pray that they do. I pray that they do. I pray that they do. Uh they both had experiences with the Uh they both had experiences with the Uh they both had experiences with the Lord. Lord. Lord. Um Um Um uh where they've seen things that uh where they've seen things that uh where they've seen things that happened, and I and I pray that they happened, and I and I pray that they happened, and I and I pray that they come. come. come. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love I love that story. I was crying I love I love that story. I was crying I love I love that story. I was crying about it the other day, Susan can about it the other day, Susan can about it the other day, Susan can attest, the one about your dad after I attest, the one about your dad after I attest, the one about your dad after I watched it. And your mom said, watched it. And your mom said, watched it. And your mom said, uh uh uh What did she say when you first told her What did she say when you first told her What did she say when you first told her about becoming a Christian? She She was about becoming a Christian? She She was about becoming a Christian? She She was reading the Bible, and she said, "Jesus reading the Bible, and she said, "Jesus reading the Bible, and she said, "Jesus just keeps coming up in the synagogue just keeps coming up in the synagogue just keeps coming up in the synagogue and and um and and um and and um standing up to all the religious standing up to all the religious standing up to all the religious leaders. No wonder they killed him."

leaders. No wonder they killed him." leaders. No wonder they killed him." Yes. No, no, she said that. She said, "I Yes. No, no, she said that. She said, "I Yes. No, no, she said that. She said, "I don't blame them for killing him after don't blame them for killing him after don't blame them for killing him after the things that he said." I mean, that's the things that he said." I mean, that's the things that he said." I mean, that's exactly what your response should be. exactly what your response should be. exactly what your response should be. That was exactly the response of all the That was exactly the response of all the That was exactly the response of all the the leaders. the leaders. the leaders. Uh how can you do this? Uh how can you do this? Uh how can you do this? She She felt all these men have She She felt all these men have She She felt all these men have dedicated their lives to helping people, dedicated their lives to helping people, dedicated their lives to helping people, and here's this 30-year-old coming and and here's this 30-year-old coming and and here's this 30-year-old coming and calling them whitewashed tombs. calling them whitewashed tombs. calling them whitewashed tombs. He's going to get himself killed. Mhm. He's going to get himself killed. Mhm. He's going to get himself killed. Mhm. And he did. Mhm. And he did. Mhm. And he did. Mhm. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yep. That was the plan. That was the plan. That was the plan. Um where would you recommend to start Um where would you recommend to start Um where would you recommend to start for someone you know that is an atheist for someone you know that is an atheist for someone you know that is an atheist and believes in and believes in and believes in uh the origin of life theory, the pond uh the origin of life theory, the pond uh the origin of life theory, the pond one? Any books or any books for kids one? Any books or any books for kids one? Any books or any books for kids that explain this simpler? Yeah, I I that explain this simpler? Yeah, I I that explain this simpler? Yeah, I I don't try to bring people to the Lord don't try to bring people to the Lord don't try to bring people to the Lord through science. Some people do. through science. Some people do. through science. Some people do. I don't use origin of life and evolution I don't use origin of life and evolution I don't use origin of life and evolution to try to bring people to the Lord. I to try to bring people to the Lord. I to try to bring people to the Lord. I use the resurrection of Jesus Christ. use the resurrection of Jesus Christ. use the resurrection of Jesus Christ. That is the scriptural pattern, That is the scriptural pattern, That is the scriptural pattern, and that is always what I use. And I and that is always what I use. And I and that is always what I use. And I would say would say would say 90% of the people that I speak with 90% of the people that I speak with 90% of the people that I speak with one-on-one come to know the Lord in that one-on-one come to know the Lord in that one-on-one come to know the Lord in that sitting.

sitting. sitting. It is the resurrection. People want to It is the resurrection. People want to It is the resurrection. People want to somehow sanitize this and work around it somehow sanitize this and work around it somehow sanitize this and work around it and come up with their own way of and come up with their own way of and come up with their own way of witnessing. That's fine for you. I go witnessing. That's fine for you. I go witnessing. That's fine for you. I go back to the tried and true method that back to the tried and true method that back to the tried and true method that God God God testified of, the resurrection of Jesus testified of, the resurrection of Jesus testified of, the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. Christ from the dead. Christ from the dead. So so um So so um So so um uh uh uh if you have somebody who's who's if you have somebody who's who's if you have somebody who's who's I I I I don't think you even have to I I I I don't think you even have to I I I I don't think you even have to change the evolution mindset to get change the evolution mindset to get change the evolution mindset to get somebody to the Lord. I never even worry somebody to the Lord. I never even worry somebody to the Lord. I never even worry about that. Once they come to the Lord about that. Once they come to the Lord about that. Once they come to the Lord evolution is so ingrained evolution is so ingrained evolution is so ingrained in in in the culture. the culture. the culture. And why even try to change that? That's And why even try to change that? That's And why even try to change that? That's not a place to start. That has nothing not a place to start. That has nothing not a place to start. That has nothing to do with salvation. There there are to do with salvation. There there are to do with salvation. There there are there are people you will meet that love there are people you will meet that love there are people you will meet that love the Lord, the Lord, the Lord, excited about the Lord, but they excited about the Lord, but they excited about the Lord, but they wholeheartedly embrace the Darwinistic wholeheartedly embrace the Darwinistic wholeheartedly embrace the Darwinistic model for evolution and the the stinky model for evolution and the the stinky model for evolution and the the stinky pond, pond, pond, primordial soup for the origin of life, primordial soup for the origin of life, primordial soup for the origin of life, and they love the Lord, and they're and they love the Lord, and they're and they love the Lord, and they're going to heaven.

going to heaven. going to heaven. You don't have to change that. You just You don't have to change that. You just You don't have to change that. You just get them involved get them involved get them involved in the word of God. in the word of God. in the word of God. And and uh uh get that sorted out. Get And and uh uh get that sorted out. Get And and uh uh get that sorted out. Get that sorted out, and then maybe they'd that sorted out, and then maybe they'd that sorted out, and then maybe they'd be open to hear other things regarding be open to hear other things regarding be open to hear other things regarding these other points, but I don't think these other points, but I don't think these other points, but I don't think evolution is the place that you start. evolution is the place that you start. evolution is the place that you start. Not at all. If you If you want a good book that you If you If you want a good book that you could pass on to people that it is is could pass on to people that it is is could pass on to people that it is is I mean it it's called um I mean it it's called um I mean it it's called um The Return of the God Hypothesis, The The Return of the God Hypothesis, The The Return of the God Hypothesis, The Return of the God Hypothesis Return of the God Hypothesis Return of the God Hypothesis by Stephen Meyer, by Stephen Meyer, by Stephen Meyer, M U Y E R M U Y E R M U Y E R The Return of the God Hypothesis by The Return of the God Hypothesis by The Return of the God Hypothesis by Stephen Meyer. It came out, I believe, Stephen Meyer. It came out, I believe, Stephen Meyer. It came out, I believe, 2025. 2025. 2025. Maybe 2024. Very good book and and uh Maybe 2024. Very good book and and uh Maybe 2024. Very good book and and uh it deals philosophically and it deals philosophically and it deals philosophically and scientifically. So, this is for the scientifically. So, this is for the scientifically. So, this is for the person who is, you know, the person who is, you know, the person who is, you know, the the intellectual. the intellectual. the intellectual. This is a good book for the This is a good book for the This is a good book for the intellectual.

intellectual. intellectual. It for the more simple person, uh a book It for the more simple person, uh a book It for the more simple person, uh a book is is would be The Case for Christ is is would be The Case for Christ is is would be The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel, The Case for Christ. by Lee Strobel, The Case for Christ. by Lee Strobel, The Case for Christ. >> And I think there's a >> And I think there's a >> And I think there's a a teen version of that, too, right? a teen version of that, too, right? a teen version of that, too, right? Yeah, mhm. Like one of my kids loved Yeah, mhm. Like one of my kids loved Yeah, mhm. Like one of my kids loved that um that um that um loved that book. loved that book. loved that book. Um okay. Um okay. Um okay. I think that's all the time we have. I think that's all the time we have. I think that's all the time we have. Y'all have time for a prayer request. Y'all have time for a prayer request. Y'all have time for a prayer request. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you for joining me today. If you Thank you for joining me today. If you Thank you for joining me today. If you could give us a like, share, or podcast could give us a like, share, or podcast could give us a like, share, or podcast review, we would appreciate it. If you review, we would appreciate it. If you review, we would appreciate it. If you have any questions, you could send them have any questions, you could send them have any questions, you could send them to [email protected], to [email protected], to [email protected], and we'll try to answer some of those and we'll try to answer some of those and we'll try to answer some of those questions in an upcoming video. And if questions in an upcoming video. And if questions in an upcoming video. And if you do not believe in the physical you do not believe in the physical you do not believe in the physical resurrection of Jesus Christ, and you resurrection of Jesus Christ, and you resurrection of Jesus Christ, and you want to hear about why I believe, send want to hear about why I believe, send want to hear about why I believe, send me an email to [email protected], and we'll get together by Zoom, and I'll and we'll get together by Zoom, and I'll share with you why I embrace the share with you why I embrace the share with you why I embrace the resurrection of Jesus Christ.