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Open Faith May 15, 2026 15m

Christian Historian EXPOSES How Politicians Weaponise Jesus

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  1. a real worry to me that the way in which a real worry to me that the way in which the the the movements that call themselves movements that call themselves movements that call themselves evangelical in America have as it were evangelical in America have as it were evangelical in America have as it were been taken over by certain cultural been taken over by certain cultural been taken over by certain cultural forces. forces. forces. There was a book I just read by There was a book I just read by There was a book I just read by a historian from Calvin College called a historian from Calvin College called a historian from Calvin College called Jesus and John Wayne. Jesus and John Wayne. Jesus and John Wayne. And I found that a very salutary and And I found that a very salutary and And I found that a very salutary and worrying book the way in which American worrying book the way in which American worrying book the way in which American hero figures of which the cowboy is the hero figures of which the cowboy is the hero figures of which the cowboy is the classic sort of model have become models classic sort of model have become models classic sort of model have become models for Jesus. And this goes in my mind with for Jesus. And this goes in my mind with for Jesus. And this goes in my mind with a couple of books which were written by a couple of books which were written by a couple of books which were written by a New Testament scholar now no longer a New Testament scholar now no longer a New Testament scholar now no longer with us Bob Jewett and a colleague of with us Bob Jewett and a colleague of with us Bob Jewett and a colleague of his on the myth of the American his on the myth of the American his on the myth of the American superhero and Captain America and the superhero and Captain America and the superhero and Captain America and the crusade against evil. That these were crusade against evil. That these were crusade against evil. That these were the great narratives which most the great narratives which most the great narratives which most presidents over the last 100 years have presidents over the last 100 years have presidents over the last 100 years have said what their favorite movies were and said what their favorite movies were and said what their favorite movies were and they all fit this pattern whether it's they all fit this pattern whether it's they all fit this pattern whether it's the Lone Ranger or Captain America or the Lone Ranger or Captain America or the Lone Ranger or Captain America or whatever. And this kind of local whatever. And this kind of local whatever. And this kind of local mythology which is peculiar to America mythology which is peculiar to America mythology which is peculiar to America but not certainly not to Britain, but not certainly not to Britain, but not certainly not to Britain, certainly not to anyone else then has certainly not to anyone else then has certainly not to anyone else then has tended to provide a structure in which tended to provide a structure in which tended to provide a structure in which Jesus is seen as the conquering hero, Jesus is seen as the conquering hero, Jesus is seen as the conquering hero, the one who rides on the white horse to the one who rides on the white horse to the one who rides on the white horse to go and do redemptive violence to rescue go and do redemptive violence to rescue go and do redemptive violence to rescue people from from wickedness etc. And people from from wickedness etc. And people from from wickedness etc. And then that gets transmuted into a then that gets transmuted into a then that gets transmuted into a question of people like us, people who

  2. question of people like us, people who question of people like us, people who look like us over against people who look like us over against people who look like us over against people who look like those people down the road look like those people down the road look like those people down the road that we wish weren't in our country. In that we wish weren't in our country. In that we wish weren't in our country. In other words, it gets other words, it gets other words, it gets sucked into a kind of a racist sucked into a kind of a racist sucked into a kind of a racist mentality. mentality. mentality. >> Can I just make the point now if you are >> Can I just make the point now if you are >> Can I just make the point now if you are watching this and you're against watching this and you're against watching this and you're against immigration, if you thought lowering immigration, if you thought lowering immigration, if you thought lowering immigration, that is one thing. But to immigration, that is one thing. But to immigration, that is one thing. But to literally view somebody from a different literally view somebody from a different literally view somebody from a different place as worse or, you know, you hear place as worse or, you know, you hear place as worse or, you know, you hear people speak about, "Well, we don't want people speak about, "Well, we don't want people speak about, "Well, we don't want them, you know, they're native rich." them, you know, they're native rich." them, you know, they're native rich." You hear a lot of this knocking about. You hear a lot of this knocking about. You hear a lot of this knocking about. And can I just make the point? The point And can I just make the point? The point And can I just make the point? The point is not should we allow immigration? The is not should we allow immigration? The is not should we allow immigration? The point is how we go about doing that. point is how we go about doing that. point is how we go about doing that. Because for instance, under Obama, he'd Because for instance, under Obama, he'd Because for instance, under Obama, he'd avoid millions of people, but the way he avoid millions of people, but the way he avoid millions of people, but the way he did that was very different compared to did that was very different compared to did that was very different compared to Trump. He didn't have ICE people going Trump. He didn't have ICE people going Trump. He didn't have ICE people going around committing atrocities. And don't around committing atrocities. And don't around committing atrocities. And don't get me wrong, there were dreadful get me wrong, there were dreadful get me wrong, there were dreadful circumstances under Obama. I'm not what circumstances under Obama. I'm not what circumstances under Obama. I'm not what whitewashing some of the stuff he did, whitewashing some of the stuff he did, whitewashing some of the stuff he did, because I you know, there's loads of because I you know, there's loads of because I you know, there's loads of things he did as a president that I things he did as a president that I things he did as a president that I completely disagree with. But the completely disagree with. But the completely disagree with. But the rhetoric and what he did and the way he rhetoric and what he did and the way he rhetoric and what he did and the way he spoke about people matters and has spoke about people matters and has spoke about people matters and has weight. And when people speak about weight. And when people speak about weight. And when people speak about people in a way that is not in line with people in a way that is not in line with people in a way that is not in line with scripture, that is not in line with scripture, that is not in line with scripture, that is not in line with Genesis, which is not in line with our Genesis, which is not in line with our Genesis, which is not in line with our Lord Jesus Christ, you know, everyone Lord Jesus Christ, you know, everyone Lord Jesus Christ, you know, everyone made in the image of God. And it will made in the image of God. And it will made in the image of God. And it will bring it back to Restore Britain, if For bring it back to Restore Britain, if For bring it back to Restore Britain, if For anyone who doesn't know, they are anyone who doesn't know, they are anyone who doesn't know, they are right-wing political party in the UK, right-wing political party in the UK, right-wing political party in the UK, and they speak about ancestry, they and they speak about ancestry, they and they speak about ancestry, they speak about, you know, they speak about

  3. speak about, you know, they speak about speak about, you know, they speak about ethnicity. Now, that's not to say that ethnicity. Now, that's not to say that ethnicity. Now, that's not to say that if you support Restore Britain, you are if you support Restore Britain, you are if you support Restore Britain, you are speaking that white people are better speaking that white people are better speaking that white people are better than black people, because I'm there's than black people, because I'm there's than black people, because I'm there's loads of people at Restore Britain who loads of people at Restore Britain who loads of people at Restore Britain who don't think that. But all But there are don't think that. But all But there are don't think that. But all But there are a lot of supporters who do, right? And a lot of supporters who do, right? And a lot of supporters who do, right? And I'm not I'm not afraid to say that. I'm not I'm not afraid to say that. I'm not I'm not afraid to say that. There are people who are genuinely vile There are people who are genuinely vile There are people who are genuinely vile in the way they speak about other people in the way they speak about other people in the way they speak about other people from other cultures, you know, they from other cultures, you know, they from other cultures, you know, they speak about the dreadfulness of certain speak about the dreadfulness of certain speak about the dreadfulness of certain places in the world, etc. And the truth places in the world, etc. And the truth places in the world, etc. And the truth is, if you are a Christian, everyone is is, if you are a Christian, everyone is is, if you are a Christian, everyone is a daughter and son of God. And the way a daughter and son of God. And the way a daughter and son of God. And the way we go about speaking about people we go about speaking about people we go about speaking about people matters. And Restore Britain's leader, matters. And Restore Britain's leader, matters. And Restore Britain's leader, Rupert Lowe, put a tweet out of a little Rupert Lowe, put a tweet out of a little Rupert Lowe, put a tweet out of a little kid on a boat and said, "If you want to kid on a boat and said, "If you want to kid on a boat and said, "If you want to see this kid deported, vote Restore." see this kid deported, vote Restore." see this kid deported, vote Restore." That's not coming from love. That's not That's not coming from love. That's not That's not coming from love. That's not Jesus' message. That's not what's spoken Jesus' message. That's not what's spoken Jesus' message. That's not what's spoken about in the Gospels. It's one thing to about in the Gospels. It's one thing to about in the Gospels. It's one thing to say, "Are we too reliant on overseas say, "Are we too reliant on overseas say, "Are we too reliant on overseas overseas labor coming in and potentially overseas labor coming in and potentially overseas labor coming in and potentially depreciating prices? Is it true that depreciating prices? Is it true that depreciating prices? Is it true that having loads of people come to the UK having loads of people come to the UK having loads of people come to the UK might affect the housing crisis in some might affect the housing crisis in some might affect the housing crisis in some respect?" To say that, we you know, we respect?" To say that, we you know, we respect?" To say that, we you know, we can have an argument. We can have a can have an argument. We can have a can have an argument. We can have a debate. We can speak about that cuz debate. We can speak about that cuz debate. We can speak about that cuz there are some very valid concerns and I there are some very valid concerns and I there are some very valid concerns and I won't won't say they are not, right? And won't won't say they are not, right? And won't won't say they are not, right? And people we pretend that there's there's people we pretend that there's there's people we pretend that there's there's no issue whatsoever. This is the thing no issue whatsoever. This is the thing no issue whatsoever. This is the thing that radicalizes people, when you just that radicalizes people, when you just that radicalizes people, when you just say reality is not true. All right?

  4. say reality is not true. All right? say reality is not true. All right? However, that does not mean you you can However, that does not mean you you can However, that does not mean you you can sparrows filth and bile towards these sparrows filth and bile towards these sparrows filth and bile towards these people because they are fellow brothers people because they are fellow brothers people because they are fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. And I think this and sisters in Christ. And I think this and sisters in Christ. And I think this is so so important to remember. It is so so important to remember. It is so so important to remember. It really really is. And that does not mean really really is. And that does not mean really really is. And that does not mean that they don't have the freedom to do that they don't have the freedom to do that they don't have the freedom to do it cuz I'm actually quite a free speech it cuz I'm actually quite a free speech it cuz I'm actually quite a free speech absolutist and I must stop. absolutist and I must stop. absolutist and I must stop. But, I will call it out. And I think as But, I will call it out. And I think as But, I will call it out. And I think as Christians, we should call it out. We Christians, we should call it out. We Christians, we should call it out. We shouldn't call out for them to be shouldn't call out for them to be shouldn't call out for them to be censored, deplatformed, none of that. censored, deplatformed, none of that. censored, deplatformed, none of that. But, we should call it out. All right? But, we should call it out. All right? But, we should call it out. All right? Cuz we're Christians. And especially Cuz we're Christians. And especially Cuz we're Christians. And especially Christians that use our Lord Jesus Christians that use our Lord Jesus Christians that use our Lord Jesus Christ to push any of this filth, all Christ to push any of this filth, all Christ to push any of this filth, all right? We should be really really going right? We should be really really going right? We should be really really going into them. Obviously, from a place of into them. Obviously, from a place of into them. Obviously, from a place of love, from a place of wanting to love, from a place of wanting to love, from a place of wanting to preserve the beauty of the Gospel, the preserve the beauty of the Gospel, the preserve the beauty of the Gospel, the beauty of Jesus. beauty of Jesus. beauty of Jesus. But, we yeah, we must remember that. But, we yeah, we must remember that. But, we yeah, we must remember that. We've had a big problem with racism in We've had a big problem with racism in We've had a big problem with racism in Britain, but it's a different sort of Britain, but it's a different sort of Britain, but it's a different sort of racism because we never had a system of racism because we never had a system of racism because we never had a system of slavery where we were importing people slavery where we were importing people slavery where we were importing people from Africa or anywhere else. Yes, we from Africa or anywhere else. Yes, we from Africa or anywhere else. Yes, we had a lot of people who made a lot of had a lot of people who made a lot of had a lot of people who made a lot of money by being part of that slave trade money by being part of that slave trade money by being part of that slave trade back in the 18th century and so on.

  5. back in the 18th century and so on. back in the 18th century and so on. Happily, we abolished that um and so on. Happily, we abolished that um and so on. Happily, we abolished that um and so on. But, we never had a large indigenous But, we never had a large indigenous But, we never had a large indigenous population of ex-slaves or the families population of ex-slaves or the families population of ex-slaves or the families of ex-slaves. Rather, our uh racial of ex-slaves. Rather, our uh racial of ex-slaves. Rather, our uh racial questions in Britain have come from the questions in Britain have come from the questions in Britain have come from the fact that we went and colonized parts of fact that we went and colonized parts of fact that we went and colonized parts of the world and we gave people citizenship the world and we gave people citizenship the world and we gave people citizenship from India or Pakistan or wherever and from India or Pakistan or wherever and from India or Pakistan or wherever and once they were British citizens, then once they were British citizens, then once they were British citizens, then they had the right to come and live in they had the right to come and live in they had the right to come and live in Britain and some of them have chosen to Britain and some of them have chosen to Britain and some of them have chosen to do so. So, if that's been a problem, do so. So, if that's been a problem, do so. So, if that's been a problem, it's been a very different problem with it's been a very different problem with it's been a very different problem with America. And I say all this I mean, in America. And I say all this I mean, in America. And I say all this I mean, in all fairness, we did have the Windrush all fairness, we did have the Windrush all fairness, we did have the Windrush scandal, which was absolutely horrific, scandal, which was absolutely horrific, scandal, which was absolutely horrific, you know, people who had worked here for you know, people who had worked here for you know, people who had worked here for years and years and years couldn't quite years and years and years couldn't quite years and years and years couldn't quite prove who they were or there was some prove who they were or there was some prove who they were or there was some bureaucracy issue and they were deported bureaucracy issue and they were deported bureaucracy issue and they were deported and they were treated like they weren't and they were treated like they weren't and they were treated like they weren't citizens. There There were There were citizens. There There were There were citizens. There There were There were loads of issues like that. So, loads of issues like that. So, loads of issues like that. So, I mean, I'm sure Andrew White agrees I mean, I'm sure Andrew White agrees I mean, I'm sure Andrew White agrees with that completely, but I think he with that completely, but I think he with that completely, but I think he just missed that a little bit. because just missed that a little bit. because just missed that a little bit. because otherwise people can hear this phrase otherwise people can hear this phrase otherwise people can hear this phrase evangelical or white evangelical and and evangelical or white evangelical and and evangelical or white evangelical and and it gets it gets very confusing for all it gets it gets very confusing for all it gets it gets very confusing for all sorts of all sorts of reasons. And so, sorts of all sorts of reasons. And so, sorts of all sorts of reasons. And so, the heart of that, I want to say, we the heart of that, I want to say, we the heart of that, I want to say, we need to take it We need to step back and need to take it We need to step back and need to take it We need to step back and say, what in biblical terms might a say, what in biblical terms might a say, what in biblical terms might a nation be and what in Christian terms nation be and what in Christian terms nation be and what in Christian terms and biblical terms might happen when you and biblical terms might happen when you and biblical terms might happen when you put the word Christian in front of the put the word Christian in front of the put the word Christian in front of the word nation. So, that Christian word nation. So, that Christian word nation. So, that Christian nationalism, because that's that's the nationalism, because that's that's the nationalism, because that's that's the real problem at the moment. Um real problem at the moment. Um real problem at the moment. Um and I want to say, any idea of

  6. and I want to say, any idea of and I want to say, any idea of nationalism nationalism nationalism as in our nation is the top nation and as in our nation is the top nation and as in our nation is the top nation and we therefore have the right and the duty we therefore have the right and the duty we therefore have the right and the duty to export our way of life to everybody to export our way of life to everybody to export our way of life to everybody else, else, else, you find nothing of that in the Bible. you find nothing of that in the Bible. you find nothing of that in the Bible. Rather, the trans- transition from the Rather, the trans- transition from the Rather, the trans- transition from the nation of Israel called to be the light nation of Israel called to be the light nation of Israel called to be the light of the world through Jesus and the of the world through Jesus and the of the world through Jesus and the apostles to a message which is for apostles to a message which is for apostles to a message which is for everybody, a message that Jesus is the everybody, a message that Jesus is the everybody, a message that Jesus is the Lord of the whole world. He's the savior Lord of the whole world. He's the savior Lord of the whole world. He's the savior of the whole world. And so, there is now of the whole world. And so, there is now of the whole world. And so, there is now therefore now neither Jew nor Greek, therefore now neither Jew nor Greek, therefore now neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, nor male nor female. You slave nor free, nor male nor female. You slave nor free, nor male nor female. You are all one in Messiah Jesus. That's a are all one in Messiah Jesus. That's a are all one in Messiah Jesus. That's a kind of a sigh of relief moment when the kind of a sigh of relief moment when the kind of a sigh of relief moment when the New Testament says, yes, we've had this New Testament says, yes, we've had this New Testament says, yes, we've had this particular nation, which is the ancient particular nation, which is the ancient particular nation, which is the ancient people of Israel, that was God's people of Israel, that was God's people of Israel, that was God's preparatory preparatory preparatory strategy, and now that is fulfilled strategy, and now that is fulfilled strategy, and now that is fulfilled gloriously. All the promises have come gloriously. All the promises have come gloriously. All the promises have come true in the Messiah, but this doesn't true in the Messiah, but this doesn't true in the Messiah, but this doesn't generate a new ethnic generate a new ethnic generate a new ethnic nation, which now is Jesus ethnic nation, which now is Jesus ethnic nation, which now is Jesus ethnic nation. Rather, it generates the nation. Rather, it generates the nation. Rather, it generates the possibility of people of all sorts possibility of people of all sorts possibility of people of all sorts coming together in a new sort of coming together in a new sort of coming together in a new sort of identity, which is a faith identity of identity, which is a faith identity of identity, which is a faith identity of allegiance to Jesus. There's a passage allegiance to Jesus. There's a passage allegiance to Jesus. There's a passage in the letter to Ignatius, which is a in the letter to Ignatius, which is a in the letter to Ignatius, which is a second century Christian document, which second century Christian document, which second century Christian document, which basically says, basically says, basically says, we Christians are kind of funny because we Christians are kind of funny because we Christians are kind of funny because we live in all countries and we love our we live in all countries and we love our we live in all countries and we love our countries, but that's not our primary

  7. countries, but that's not our primary countries, but that's not our primary allegiance and wherever we are, we will allegiance and wherever we are, we will allegiance and wherever we are, we will obey the state as long as it doesn't obey the state as long as it doesn't obey the state as long as it doesn't tell us to worship their to worship tell us to worship their to worship tell us to worship their to worship their gods and so on. In other words, we their gods and so on. In other words, we their gods and so on. In other words, we are designed to be a multi-cultural, are designed to be a multi-cultural, are designed to be a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic multi-ethnic multi-ethnic family. Now, that for some reason has family. Now, that for some reason has family. Now, that for some reason has been lost in much contemporary North been lost in much contemporary North been lost in much contemporary North American Christianity and and it's in American Christianity and and it's in American Christianity and and it's in danger of being lost in other places as danger of being lost in other places as danger of being lost in other places as well. We have our own local versions of well. We have our own local versions of well. We have our own local versions of this in in Britain, though this in in Britain, though this in in Britain, though Rishi Sunak, and you know, I mean, Conor Rishi Sunak, and you know, I mean, Conor Rishi Sunak, and you know, I mean, Conor Tomlinson for instance, how many times Tomlinson for instance, how many times Tomlinson for instance, how many times does he speak about race? How many times does he speak about race? How many times does he speak about race? How many times does he speak about, you know, ancestry? does he speak about, you know, ancestry? does he speak about, you know, ancestry? How many times does he speak about all How many times does he speak about all How many times does he speak about all these things? He doesn't speak about, these things? He doesn't speak about, these things? He doesn't speak about, you know, Jesus. He doesn't say, "Oh, you know, Jesus. He doesn't say, "Oh, you know, Jesus. He doesn't say, "Oh, we're all one in Christ." He doesn't we're all one in Christ." He doesn't we're all one in Christ." He doesn't say, you know, say, you know, say, you know, "We Our identity should not be of this "We Our identity should not be of this "We Our identity should not be of this world." He doesn't speak about that. He world." He doesn't speak about that. He world." He doesn't speak about that. He just speaks about, basically, ancestral just speaks about, basically, ancestral just speaks about, basically, ancestral homeland being under attack and all homeland being under attack and all homeland being under attack and all this. He apologized to Saskia on X, who, this. He apologized to Saskia on X, who, this. He apologized to Saskia on X, who, if you don't know, put out a tweet of if you don't know, put out a tweet of if you don't know, put out a tweet of some Restore counselors winning and put some Restore counselors winning and put some Restore counselors winning and put I think he said, "What I'd like to see, I think he said, "What I'd like to see, I think he said, "What I'd like to see, white British proud." So, basically white British proud." So, basically white British proud." So, basically saying that it's good that white people saying that it's good that white people saying that it's good that white people winning more in politics. I'm glad to winning more in politics. I'm glad to winning more in politics. I'm glad to see white people. I'm useful see white people. I'm useful see white people. I'm useful characteristics she's saying are better characteristics she's saying are better characteristics she's saying are better because they're white. Right? And you because they're white. Right? And you because they're white. Right? And you know what one of the lead spokespeople know what one of the lead spokespeople know what one of the lead spokespeople of Restore said? He said sorry to her.

  8. of Restore said? He said sorry to her. of Restore said? He said sorry to her. Sorry it's I'm so sorry that you weren't Sorry it's I'm so sorry that you weren't Sorry it's I'm so sorry that you weren't allowed to speak. That's what he said. allowed to speak. That's what he said. allowed to speak. That's what he said. You know, this ladies and gentlemen, You know, this ladies and gentlemen, You know, this ladies and gentlemen, this is not a party of Christian values. this is not a party of Christian values. this is not a party of Christian values. This is the furthest thing from it. Do This is the furthest thing from it. Do This is the furthest thing from it. Do you not get Do not get wrapped into this you not get Do not get wrapped into this you not get Do not get wrapped into this nonsense, all right? And this this nonsense, all right? And this this nonsense, all right? And this this ladies and gentlemen who speaking here ladies and gentlemen who speaking here ladies and gentlemen who speaking here NT Wright, he's not just somebody who NT Wright, he's not just somebody who NT Wright, he's not just somebody who knows a few scripture verses. This is a knows a few scripture verses. This is a knows a few scripture verses. This is a man who has studied this for decades and man who has studied this for decades and man who has studied this for decades and decades. He knows the Roman world better decades. He knows the Roman world better decades. He knows the Roman world better than the current world. He knows the than the current world. He knows the than the current world. He knows the world, you know, world of Jesus more world, you know, world of Jesus more world, you know, world of Jesus more than almost anyone in the UK. You know, than almost anyone in the UK. You know, than almost anyone in the UK. You know, this is a a top historian. NT Wright, this is a a top historian. NT Wright, this is a a top historian. NT Wright, you know, he's wrote books. He's wrote, you know, he's wrote books. He's wrote, you know, he's wrote books. He's wrote, you know, three 400 page books just you know, three 400 page books just you know, three 400 page books just about a few lines in in scripture. You about a few lines in in scripture. You about a few lines in in scripture. You know, this is a man who knows the Bible know, this is a man who knows the Bible know, this is a man who knows the Bible well. All right? So, this this has some well. All right? So, this this has some well. All right? So, this this has some weight when he says this stuff. Really weight when he says this stuff. Really weight when he says this stuff. Really take this in because I guarantee a lot take this in because I guarantee a lot take this in because I guarantee a lot of these Restore people, they definitely of these Restore people, they definitely of these Restore people, they definitely don't know more than NT Wright. They don't know more than NT Wright. They don't know more than NT Wright. They definitely haven't studied the Bible as definitely haven't studied the Bible as definitely haven't studied the Bible as much as NT Wright. They definitely know much as NT Wright. They definitely know much as NT Wright. They definitely know know the historical Jesus more than NT know the historical Jesus more than NT know the historical Jesus more than NT Wright. I'll tell you that much. All Wright. I'll tell you that much. All Wright. I'll tell you that much. All right? So, we must actually listen to right? So, we must actually listen to right? So, we must actually listen to people who actually know what they're people who actually know what they're people who actually know what they're talking about and not people who, you talking about and not people who, you talking about and not people who, you know, use Christianity as some sort of know, use Christianity as some sort of know, use Christianity as some sort of identity flex online. That is not Jesus, identity flex online. That is not Jesus, identity flex online. That is not Jesus, right? So, let's remember that. nowhere right? So, let's remember that. nowhere right? So, let's remember that. nowhere near as strident or as as powerful as near as strident or as as powerful as near as strident or as as powerful as the American versions, but I want to the American versions, but I want to the American versions, but I want to track back and say, "Please, beloved track back and say, "Please, beloved track back and say, "Please, beloved Americans, read um Americans, read um Americans, read um the the the lady I mentioned whose name the the the lady I mentioned whose name the the the lady I mentioned whose name you know, the Kristen

  9. you know, the Kristen you know, the Kristen Kristen Dumay. Um May spelled m a y z I Kristen Dumay. Um May spelled m a y z I Kristen Dumay. Um May spelled m a y z I think. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. think. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. think. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. On Jesus and John Wayne. Read um On Jesus and John Wayne. Read um On Jesus and John Wayne. Read um the very important book by James Davison the very important book by James Davison the very important book by James Davison Hunter, Democracy and Solidarity. Read Hunter, Democracy and Solidarity. Read Hunter, Democracy and Solidarity. Read the very important book by Molly the very important book by Molly the very important book by Molly Worthen, historian from University of Worthen, historian from University of Worthen, historian from University of North Carolina, um called Spellbound North Carolina, um called Spellbound North Carolina, um called Spellbound about how there's a long American about how there's a long American about how there's a long American tradition of leaders emerging from tradition of leaders emerging from tradition of leaders emerging from nowhere in particular saying a plague on nowhere in particular saying a plague on nowhere in particular saying a plague on the present system, follow me and I'll the present system, follow me and I'll the present system, follow me and I'll take you to the sunlit upland. And the take you to the sunlit upland. And the take you to the sunlit upland. And the way in which that has prepared people a way in which that has prepared people a way in which that has prepared people a kind of American subculture for what has kind of American subculture for what has kind of American subculture for what has been happening in in the last 10 years been happening in in the last 10 years been happening in in the last 10 years or so. Um or so. Um or so. Um I find this very very distressing. I find this very very distressing. I find this very very distressing. So, I think there's so much wisdom here So, I think there's so much wisdom here So, I think there's so much wisdom here that anti-war espouses, and I think it's that anti-war espouses, and I think it's that anti-war espouses, and I think it's something just to remember, you know, something just to remember, you know, something just to remember, you know, not to get swept up by so much of what not to get swept up by so much of what not to get swept up by so much of what has been espoused cuz there are so many has been espoused cuz there are so many has been espoused cuz there are so many people under the sun who are using our people under the sun who are using our people under the sun who are using our Lord Jesus Christ to push ludicrous Lord Jesus Christ to push ludicrous Lord Jesus Christ to push ludicrous things. I mean, just look at Donald things. I mean, just look at Donald things. I mean, just look at Donald Trump, right? There was just a statue in Trump, right? There was just a statue in Trump, right? There was just a statue in in America, golden statue, and he's kind in America, golden statue, and he's kind in America, golden statue, and he's kind of congratulating it. If that is not a of congratulating it. If that is not a of congratulating it. If that is not a sign, ladies and gentlemen, this man is sign, ladies and gentlemen, this man is sign, ladies and gentlemen, this man is not from God, I don't I don't know what not from God, I don't I don't know what not from God, I don't I don't know what is, you know.

  10. is, you know. is, you know. Yes, he's made in the image of God, and Yes, he's made in the image of God, and Yes, he's made in the image of God, and I I do hope Donald Trump the best, but, I I do hope Donald Trump the best, but, I I do hope Donald Trump the best, but, you know, let's not let's not get you know, let's not let's not get you know, let's not let's not get mistaken, ladies and gentlemen, this man mistaken, ladies and gentlemen, this man mistaken, ladies and gentlemen, this man is not preaching the gospel. He is not is not preaching the gospel. He is not is not preaching the gospel. He is not preaching with love. You know, I mean, preaching with love. You know, I mean, preaching with love. You know, I mean, he really isn't. And I think we must be he really isn't. And I think we must be he really isn't. And I think we must be very wary as Christians. And my view on very wary as Christians. And my view on very wary as Christians. And my view on Christian nationalism, I'm not even Christian nationalism, I'm not even Christian nationalism, I'm not even sure, to be honest, because there's so sure, to be honest, because there's so sure, to be honest, because there's so much complexity and nuances to it, and I much complexity and nuances to it, and I much complexity and nuances to it, and I feel like I need to know more. But, one feel like I need to know more. But, one feel like I need to know more. But, one thing I'm certain of is people like thing I'm certain of is people like thing I'm certain of is people like Donald Trump, people like Rupert Lowe, Donald Trump, people like Rupert Lowe, Donald Trump, people like Rupert Lowe, Restore Britain, the the right-wing Restore Britain, the the right-wing Restore Britain, the the right-wing political party in the UK. So many of political party in the UK. So many of political party in the UK. So many of these people on the extreme, like or these people on the extreme, like or these people on the extreme, like or like Britain First, like using Jesus to like Britain First, like using Jesus to like Britain First, like using Jesus to push this push this push this doesn't go hand in hand with theology, doesn't go hand in hand with theology, doesn't go hand in hand with theology, you know. Have your views about people. you know. Have your views about people. you know. Have your views about people. Have your obsession about these full Have your obsession about these full Have your obsession about these full characteristics about ancestry, race, characteristics about ancestry, race, characteristics about ancestry, race, whatever, right? Have Have those views whatever, right? Have Have those views whatever, right? Have Have those views if if you really believe this nonsense, if if you really believe this nonsense, if if you really believe this nonsense, right? But, don't bring Jesus into it. right? But, don't bring Jesus into it. right? But, don't bring Jesus into it. Don't bring the Nazarene. Don't bring Don't bring the Nazarene. Don't bring Don't bring the Nazarene. Don't bring the the man who breached the ethnic gap the the man who breached the ethnic gap the the man who breached the ethnic gap between everyone. Make disciples of all between everyone. Make disciples of all between everyone. Make disciples of all nations. Neither Greek nor Jew nor nations. Neither Greek nor Jew nor nations. Neither Greek nor Jew nor Gentile. All one in God. Don't bring Gentile. All one in God. Don't bring Gentile. All one in God. Don't bring Jesus and Christianity into it. If you Jesus and Christianity into it. If you Jesus and Christianity into it. If you want to espouse this nonsense, use want to espouse this nonsense, use want to espouse this nonsense, use something else, right? But, if you are something else, right? But, if you are something else, right? But, if you are bringing Christianity into it, you are bringing Christianity into it, you are bringing Christianity into it, you are simply wrong. You can do like the mental simply wrong. You can do like the mental simply wrong. You can do like the mental gymnastics people do to use Christianity gymnastics people do to use Christianity gymnastics people do to use Christianity to push this filth is just remarkable.

  11. to push this filth is just remarkable. to push this filth is just remarkable. It It really goes to show how if It It really goes to show how if It It really goes to show how if somebody thinks something, they will somebody thinks something, they will somebody thinks something, they will just find any way to lie to themselves. just find any way to lie to themselves. just find any way to lie to themselves. And there are things that are really And there are things that are really And there are things that are really true. Not everything is, you know, my true. Not everything is, you know, my true. Not everything is, you know, my truth, your truth. And I feel like in a truth, your truth. And I feel like in a truth, your truth. And I feel like in a way, the whole Christian nationalism way, the whole Christian nationalism way, the whole Christian nationalism fits fit with all this with Trump, with fits fit with all this with Trump, with fits fit with all this with Trump, with MAGA, with MAGA, with MAGA, with all this stuff culminates, you could all this stuff culminates, you could all this stuff culminates, you could say, in this kind of post-modern view say, in this kind of post-modern view say, in this kind of post-modern view that basically everything's my truth. that basically everything's my truth. that basically everything's my truth. And it's just bending Jesus into any And it's just bending Jesus into any And it's just bending Jesus into any form they like, even if it goes like form they like, even if it goes like form they like, even if it goes like antipathetical to everything he spoke antipathetical to everything he spoke antipathetical to everything he spoke about ever, right? All the apostles. So, about ever, right? All the apostles. So, about ever, right? All the apostles. So, you know, I hope this moves someone's you know, I hope this moves someone's you know, I hope this moves someone's heart. And if you are one of these heart. And if you are one of these heart. And if you are one of these people like Trump, who like restoring people like Trump, who like restoring people like Trump, who like restoring and God bless you. And I I really pray and God bless you. And I I really pray and God bless you. And I I really pray for you and I hope, you know, this for you and I hope, you know, this for you and I hope, you know, this moves your heart a bit because you're moves your heart a bit because you're moves your heart a bit because you're you're going down the the wrong road, you're going down the the wrong road, you're going down the the wrong road, mate. And even if you got the best mate. And even if you got the best mate. And even if you got the best intentions, I'm telling you this this is intentions, I'm telling you this this is intentions, I'm telling you this this is not a Christian message, all right? So, not a Christian message, all right? So, not a Christian message, all right? So, come on. You can do better than this. come on. You can do better than this. come on. You can do better than this. Um and I I understand people getting Um and I I understand people getting Um and I I understand people getting swept up in it and stuff, but um just swept up in it and stuff, but um just swept up in it and stuff, but um just know, know, know, you know, the foot of the cross, you you know, the foot of the cross, you you know, the foot of the cross, you know, what would Jesus say if he was know, what would Jesus say if he was know, what would Jesus say if he was around? I'll tell you what, if if around? I'll tell you what, if if around? I'll tell you what, if if there's a political party that would there's a political party that would there's a political party that would deport Jesus if he was born here today, deport Jesus if he was born here today, deport Jesus if he was born here today, I'm not supporting that political party.

  12. I'm not supporting that political party. I'm not supporting that political party. I don't care who it is. I'm not I don't care who it is. I'm not I don't care who it is. I'm not supporting them. supporting them. supporting them. And that's that's my logic anyway. But And that's that's my logic anyway. But And that's that's my logic anyway. But yeah, God bless all of you and I'll see yeah, God bless all of you and I'll see yeah, God bless all of you and I'll see you all next very soon. Peace.

Summary

The main theme is the influence of American cultural myths, particularly the heroic cowboy and superhero archetypes, on the perception of Jesus within evangelicalism, leading to a potentially militaristic and exclusionary view of faith. This is discussed in relation to books like "Jesus and John Wayne" and the "myth of the American superhero," highlighting how these narratives can foster a mindset that views outsiders negatively and justifies violence. The takeaway is to critically examine these cultural influences and ensure that our understanding and practice of faith are not warped by them, particularly concerning how we treat immigrants and those different from us.

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