This Forgotten Gospel Challenges What We Know - The Gospel of Judas

How often you hear a Christian say that How often you hear a Christian say that Christians are divided on certain Christians are divided on certain Christians are divided on certain specifics, but they all agree Jesus' specifics, but they all agree Jesus' specifics, but they all agree Jesus' body was resurrected from the dead and body was resurrected from the dead and body was resurrected from the dead and he is God, he is divine. Well, in this he is God, he is divine. Well, in this he is God, he is divine. Well, in this video I'm going to speak about a bit video I'm going to speak about a bit video I'm going to speak about a bit about the Gospel of Judas and why this about the Gospel of Judas and why this about the Gospel of Judas and why this view actually kind of isn't true in many view actually kind of isn't true in many view actually kind of isn't true in many ways. So, here we go. ways. So, here we go. ways. So, here we go. >> There are communities of people who >> There are communities of people who >> There are communities of people who believe the most wacky and incredible believe the most wacky and incredible believe the most wacky and incredible things about Jesus fairly early on. things about Jesus fairly early on. things about Jesus fairly early on. Like, if you've ever read the Gospel of Like, if you've ever read the Gospel of Like, if you've ever read the Gospel of Judas, hm it is a complete trip. It is a Judas, hm it is a complete trip. It is a Judas, hm it is a complete trip. It is a complete and utter trip and it does complete and utter trip and it does complete and utter trip and it does present as like present as like present as like in the form of a human but not really a in the form of a human but not really a in the form of a human but not really a human. He's God, he's sent from the human. He's God, he's sent from the human. He's God, he's sent from the realm of Barbelo. realm of Barbelo. realm of Barbelo. And he comes down to free people from And he comes down to free people from And he comes down to free people from their material prisons and bring them their material prisons and bring them their material prisons and bring them back up into the plethora to be there back up into the plethora to be there back up into the plethora to be there with all of the all of the proper divine with all of the all of the proper divine with all of the all of the proper divine beings. beings. beings. >> Um >> Um >> Um >> Now, Barbelo. Now, I'm no, you know, >> Now, Barbelo. Now, I'm no, you know, >> Now, Barbelo. Now, I'm no, you know, expert on Gnosticism, but from what I expert on Gnosticism, but from what I expert on Gnosticism, but from what I gather it seems like that is the view of gather it seems like that is the view of gather it seems like that is the view of a divine creator outside of this realm a divine creator outside of this realm a divine creator outside of this realm and this goes to the heart of the and this goes to the heart of the and this goes to the heart of the difference in perception because the difference in perception because the difference in perception because the Christian view is that creation itself Christian view is that creation itself Christian view is that creation itself is good. You know, N.T. Wright, the is good. You know, N.T. Wright, the is good. You know, N.T. Wright, the amazing historian, speaks about it so amazing historian, speaks about it so amazing historian, speaks about it so well. And if you read Saint Augustine, well. And if you read Saint Augustine, well. And if you read Saint Augustine, he was very trapped in the sphere of he was very trapped in the sphere of he was very trapped in the sphere of Gnosticism of basically viewing the Gnosticism of basically viewing the Gnosticism of basically viewing the bodily selves, our earthly selves, as bodily selves, our earthly selves, as bodily selves, our earthly selves, as bad. And that's quite quite a unique bad. And that's quite quite a unique bad. And that's quite quite a unique difference of traditional Christian difference of traditional Christian difference of traditional Christian doctrine which many Christians hold doctrine which many Christians hold doctrine which many Christians hold today, which is the view that creation today, which is the view that creation today, which is the view that creation itself is good. Biological impulses in itself is good. Biological impulses in itself is good. Biological impulses in in the correct form are correct, all in the correct form are correct, all in the correct form are correct, all right, all godly. And it's it's

right, all godly. And it's it's right, all godly. And it's it's something I hold dear to my heart something I hold dear to my heart something I hold dear to my heart because I think the the damage of the because I think the the damage of the because I think the the damage of the church, the damage of faith comes when church, the damage of faith comes when church, the damage of faith comes when we do things from fear, from we do things from fear, from we do things from fear, from self-denial, but not from love. As I self-denial, but not from love. As I self-denial, but not from love. As I always say, as Paul says in Corinthians. always say, as Paul says in Corinthians. always say, as Paul says in Corinthians. But anyway, we'll hear more from the But anyway, we'll hear more from the But anyway, we'll hear more from the amazing Ari Soffer Connor. amazing Ari Soffer Connor. amazing Ari Soffer Connor. >> Totally wacky different view of Jesus >> Totally wacky different view of Jesus >> Totally wacky different view of Jesus and we know that this text existed prior and we know that this text existed prior and we know that this text existed prior to 180 AD. to 180 AD. to 180 AD. We know that for a fact. We know that for a fact. We know that for a fact. >> same text, doesn't he claim Judas will >> same text, doesn't he claim Judas will >> same text, doesn't he claim Judas will uh supersede all of other disciples uh supersede all of other disciples uh supersede all of other disciples because he is doing the will of the because he is doing the will of the because he is doing the will of the Father? Father? Father? >> So, >> So, >> So, when the Gospel of Judas was first when the Gospel of Judas was first when the Gospel of Judas was first discovered, it seemed like Judas was the discovered, it seemed like Judas was the discovered, it seemed like Judas was the hero. hero. hero. Because Because Because like this is discovered in like the like this is discovered in like the like this is discovered in like the 1970s. 1970s. 1970s. We know that this text exists, but it's We know that this text exists, but it's We know that this text exists, but it's been lost for been lost for been lost for >> Can I just say there is an amazing >> Can I just say there is an amazing >> Can I just say there is an amazing podcast Alex does with the incredible podcast Alex does with the incredible podcast Alex does with the incredible Bart Ehrman. And And if you want to talk Bart Ehrman. And And if you want to talk Bart Ehrman. And And if you want to talk about an expert, an absolute expert, about an expert, an absolute expert, about an expert, an absolute expert, National Geographic got Bart Ehrman to National Geographic got Bart Ehrman to National Geographic got Bart Ehrman to be one of the first people ever to see be one of the first people ever to see be one of the first people ever to see and touch the Gospel of Judas. Because and touch the Gospel of Judas. Because and touch the Gospel of Judas. Because that man truly is an expert. You got a that man truly is an expert. You got a that man truly is an expert. You got a lot of people on the internet who talk lot of people on the internet who talk lot of people on the internet who talk about being experts or this Christian about being experts or this Christian about being experts or this Christian expert or this Bart Ehrman is a man who expert or this Bart Ehrman is a man who expert or this Bart Ehrman is a man who is legitimately an expert in his field.

is legitimately an expert in his field. is legitimately an expert in his field. So, I would I would suggest go watch So, I would I would suggest go watch So, I would I would suggest go watch that. It's a long listen, I think it's 2 that. It's a long listen, I think it's 2 that. It's a long listen, I think it's 2 and 1/2 hours, but it really breaks down and 1/2 hours, but it really breaks down and 1/2 hours, but it really breaks down a lot of it. Um and you get real a lot of it. Um and you get real a lot of it. Um and you get real insight. insight. insight. >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> Even just it how complex textual >> Even just it how complex textual >> Even just it how complex textual criticism is and how just criticism is and how just criticism is and how just remarkable it is that we kind of even remarkable it is that we kind of even remarkable it is that we kind of even just cultivated what we know today about just cultivated what we know today about just cultivated what we know today about Jesus, the Gospels, like history full Jesus, the Gospels, like history full Jesus, the Gospels, like history full stop. It's remarkable. So, I I would stop. It's remarkable. So, I I would stop. It's remarkable. So, I I would highly suggest giving that a watch. highly suggest giving that a watch. highly suggest giving that a watch. >> There's a guy called Irenaeus who in 180 >> There's a guy called Irenaeus who in 180 >> There's a guy called Irenaeus who in 180 writes Against Heresies and he's like writes Against Heresies and he's like writes Against Heresies and he's like condemning all these different heresies condemning all these different heresies condemning all these different heresies and he talks about this Gospel of Judas. and he talks about this Gospel of Judas. and he talks about this Gospel of Judas. So, we knew it existed, but we didn't So, we knew it existed, but we didn't So, we knew it existed, but we didn't have it. And then in the 1970s, it's have it. And then in the 1970s, it's have it. And then in the 1970s, it's discovered. discovered. discovered. People are trying to sell it. It goes People are trying to sell it. It goes People are trying to sell it. It goes back and forth. It goes all over the back and forth. It goes all over the back and forth. It goes all over the place. It spends about 16 years in a place. It spends about 16 years in a place. It spends about 16 years in a safety deposit box in New York City. safety deposit box in New York City. safety deposit box in New York City. Which almost destroys it. Which almost destroys it. Which almost destroys it. Finally, it gets bought by National Finally, it gets bought by National Finally, it gets bought by National Geographic and they bring in some Geographic and they bring in some Geographic and they bring in some experts. Bart Ehrman is one of them who experts. Bart Ehrman is one of them who experts. Bart Ehrman is one of them who I've had on my show. I've had on my show. I've had on my show. And to to like find out if this is And to to like find out if this is And to to like find out if this is really the Gospel of Judas. So, they're really the Gospel of Judas. So, they're really the Gospel of Judas. So, they're looking at this text looking at this text looking at this text and they're reading it. And it opens up and they're reading it. And it opens up and they're reading it. And it opens up by saying by saying by saying that that that it tells a story that the disciples are it tells a story that the disciples are it tells a story that the disciples are praying over their food. They're praying over their food. They're praying over their food. They're performing a Eucharist. Jesus walks in performing a Eucharist. Jesus walks in performing a Eucharist. Jesus walks in and sees them praying over their food.

and sees them praying over their food. and sees them praying over their food. And he laughs at them. And he laughs at them. And he laughs at them. And they say, "Why are you And they say, "Why are you And they say, "Why are you Why you laughing at us? We're We're Why you laughing at us? We're We're Why you laughing at us? We're We're We're doing what's right." And Jesus We're doing what's right." And Jesus We're doing what's right." And Jesus says, "Ha, yeah, you're worshipping your says, "Ha, yeah, you're worshipping your says, "Ha, yeah, you're worshipping your god god god by doing that. by doing that. by doing that. You're worshipping your god You're worshipping your god You're worshipping your god by doing that." And they're like And by doing that." And they're like And by doing that." And they're like And they start getting angry. They're like, they start getting angry. They're like, they start getting angry. They're like, "What?" And then he's basically saying "What?" And then he's basically saying "What?" And then he's basically saying you don't understand any of this. And he you don't understand any of this. And he you don't understand any of this. And he says to them, "If any one of you is says to them, "If any one of you is says to them, "If any one of you is clever enough, then stand up and face clever enough, then stand up and face clever enough, then stand up and face me." me." me." And guess who stands up? And guess who stands up? And guess who stands up? It's Judas. It's Judas. It's Judas. Judas comes up to him and says, "I know Judas comes up to him and says, "I know Judas comes up to him and says, "I know who you are. who you are. who you are. I know that you've come from the realm I know that you've come from the realm I know that you've come from the realm of Barbelo. And I'm not fit to utter the of Barbelo. And I'm not fit to utter the of Barbelo. And I'm not fit to utter the name of the one who sent you." name of the one who sent you." name of the one who sent you." And then Jesus sort of explains the And then Jesus sort of explains the And then Jesus sort of explains the history of the cosmos to Judas. Explains history of the cosmos to Judas. Explains history of the cosmos to Judas. Explains how the world was created. Explains how how the world was created. Explains how how the world was created. Explains how there is an ineffable, invisible spirit there is an ineffable, invisible spirit there is an ineffable, invisible spirit who emanates divine beings. And one of who emanates divine beings. And one of who emanates divine beings. And one of those divine beings those divine beings those divine beings falls out of the pleroma of divine falls out of the pleroma of divine falls out of the pleroma of divine beings and creates the material world. beings and creates the material world. beings and creates the material world. And And And the material world is the product of the material world is the product of the material world is the product of product of like an evil or incompetent product of like an evil or incompetent product of like an evil or incompetent demiurgic god called um demiurgic god called um demiurgic god called um called Beelzebul.

called Beelzebul. called Beelzebul. Which like Which like Which like wacky wacky stuff. And you can imagine wacky wacky stuff. And you can imagine wacky wacky stuff. And you can imagine when they read this when they first when they read this when they first when they read this when they first discovered this that they're just like, discovered this that they're just like, discovered this that they're just like, "Holy moly, this is absolutely insane. "Holy moly, this is absolutely insane. "Holy moly, this is absolutely insane. This is going to like change This is going to like change This is going to like change everything." But the big thing is Judas everything." But the big thing is Judas everything." But the big thing is Judas is the one who gets up. Like you say, is the one who gets up. Like you say, is the one who gets up. Like you say, Judas gets up and says, "I know who you Judas gets up and says, "I know who you Judas gets up and says, "I know who you are." So a lot of people read this and are." So a lot of people read this and are." So a lot of people read this and thought, "Wow, this retells the story. thought, "Wow, this retells the story. thought, "Wow, this retells the story. Judas is the hero." Judas is the hero." Judas is the hero." But that's kind of disputed because But that's kind of disputed because But that's kind of disputed because later in the text Jesus seems to say to later in the text Jesus seems to say to later in the text Jesus seems to say to Judas that you also are not worthy of of Judas that you also are not worthy of of Judas that you also are not worthy of of like entering into this house. like entering into this house. like entering into this house. Like Judas is the best of the disciples Like Judas is the best of the disciples Like Judas is the best of the disciples and he's sort of understanding it, but and he's sort of understanding it, but and he's sort of understanding it, but he's still not like the hero of the he's still not like the hero of the he's still not like the hero of the story. He's still not actually going to story. He's still not actually going to story. He's still not actually going to like be one of the generation that get like be one of the generation that get like be one of the generation that get back to the pleroma. So it's kind of back to the pleroma. So it's kind of back to the pleroma. So it's kind of unclear what the treatment of Judas is unclear what the treatment of Judas is unclear what the treatment of Judas is in that gospel. But the way it ends in that gospel. But the way it ends in that gospel. But the way it ends is is is the the the the authorities show up and the the the the authorities show up and the the the the authorities show up and Judas hands Jesus over to them. Judas hands Jesus over to them. Judas hands Jesus over to them. And that's it. That's where it ends. And that's it. That's where it ends. And that's it. That's where it ends. It's incredible. It's incredible gospel. It's incredible. It's incredible gospel. It's incredible. It's incredible gospel. And we know that it's written And we know that it's written And we know that it's written in in in the 2nd century at the at the latest. the 2nd century at the at the latest. the 2nd century at the at the latest. So, Christians will look at this and So, Christians will look at this and So, Christians will look at this and they'll say, "Well, look. I mean, the they'll say, "Well, look. I mean, the they'll say, "Well, look. I mean, the difference between something being difference between something being difference between something being written in like 70 AD and like 150 AD is written in like 70 AD and like 150 AD is written in like 70 AD and like 150 AD is like massive."

like massive." like massive." >> Yeah, cuz you're talking about >> Yeah, cuz you're talking about >> Yeah, cuz you're talking about eyewitness testimony versus like, you eyewitness testimony versus like, you eyewitness testimony versus like, you know, 100 years later. It's like the know, 100 years later. It's like the know, 100 years later. It's like the difference between writing about Tupac difference between writing about Tupac difference between writing about Tupac like now versus like 100 years from now like now versus like 100 years from now like now versus like 100 years from now or something. or something. or something. >> Yeah, without an internet. >> Yeah, without an internet. >> Yeah, without an internet. >> Totally. Exactly. It's like totally >> Totally. Exactly. It's like totally >> Totally. Exactly. It's like totally different, right? So, but what it does different, right? So, but what it does different, right? So, but what it does tell us is that there existed tell us is that there existed tell us is that there existed communities who had completely different communities who had completely different communities who had completely different views of what Jesus was about. views of what Jesus was about. views of what Jesus was about. >> the Council of Nicaea is important, >> the Council of Nicaea is important, >> the Council of Nicaea is important, right? right? right? >> Yeah, but I mean >> Yeah, but I mean >> Yeah, but I mean >> They organize all these different >> They organize all these different >> They organize all these different opinions on opinions on opinions on >> I know I mean, a very important thing to >> I know I mean, a very important thing to >> I know I mean, a very important thing to say, and Alex is going to say it here, say, and Alex is going to say it here, say, and Alex is going to say it here, but the Council of Nicaea did not decide but the Council of Nicaea did not decide but the Council of Nicaea did not decide what books go in and out of the Bible. what books go in and out of the Bible. what books go in and out of the Bible. Like, the development of what Like, the development of what Like, the development of what Christology even meant happened over Christology even meant happened over Christology even meant happened over hundreds and hundreds of years, and we hundreds and hundreds of years, and we hundreds and hundreds of years, and we know very early on people believed Jesus know very early on people believed Jesus know very early on people believed Jesus was God. Now, that within itself is a was God. Now, that within itself is a was God. Now, that within itself is a is a big question. And there's an is a big question. And there's an is a big question. And there's an amazing scholar called Brant Pitre. amazing scholar called Brant Pitre. amazing scholar called Brant Pitre. Well, I actually ordered his book. I'm Well, I actually ordered his book. I'm Well, I actually ordered his book. I'm going to read it next who's who really going to read it next who's who really going to read it next who's who really speaks about this basically Jesus did speaks about this basically Jesus did speaks about this basically Jesus did claim to be God. Now, the question did claim to be God. Now, the question did claim to be God. Now, the question did Jesus claim to be God? In many ways, Jesus claim to be God? In many ways, Jesus claim to be God? In many ways, many Christians are so insecure about many Christians are so insecure about many Christians are so insecure about when they speak about because they want when they speak about because they want when they speak about because they want to act like Jesus definitely claimed to to act like Jesus definitely claimed to to act like Jesus definitely claimed to be God. When actually, maybe he didn't.

be God. When actually, maybe he didn't. be God. When actually, maybe he didn't. Because the majority of scholars do Because the majority of scholars do Because the majority of scholars do believe Jesus didn't claim to be God, believe Jesus didn't claim to be God, believe Jesus didn't claim to be God, you know. Obviously, we've got in John you know. Obviously, we've got in John you know. Obviously, we've got in John 4, "Abraham was I am." But it's the 4, "Abraham was I am." But it's the 4, "Abraham was I am." But it's the latest gospel by far, and his latest gospel by far, and his latest gospel by far, and his Christology is far higher. And did Jesus Christology is far higher. And did Jesus Christology is far higher. And did Jesus claim to be God is a historical claim to be God is a historical claim to be God is a historical question. That does not have weight. Was question. That does not have weight. Was question. That does not have weight. Was Jesus God? And I think that's important Jesus God? And I think that's important Jesus God? And I think that's important to remember. Um but it's it's such a to remember. Um but it's it's such a to remember. Um but it's it's such a fascinating thing what Alex is speaking fascinating thing what Alex is speaking fascinating thing what Alex is speaking about here. about here. about here. >> In like Orthodox Christianity, there >> In like Orthodox Christianity, there >> In like Orthodox Christianity, there were disputes about the nature of Jesus. were disputes about the nature of Jesus. were disputes about the nature of Jesus. And that's what's ironed out. But there And that's what's ironed out. But there And that's what's ironed out. But there are just communities that just have like are just communities that just have like are just communities that just have like completely completely different views. completely completely different views. completely completely different views. And these Gnostics, the reason they're And these Gnostics, the reason they're And these Gnostics, the reason they're called Gnostics is because it comes from called Gnostics is because it comes from called Gnostics is because it comes from the Greek word gnosis, which means the Greek word gnosis, which means the Greek word gnosis, which means knowledge. And in Orthodox Christianity, knowledge. And in Orthodox Christianity, knowledge. And in Orthodox Christianity, the way that people are saved is through the way that people are saved is through the way that people are saved is through the sacrifice of Jesus. the sacrifice of Jesus. the sacrifice of Jesus. That's how you you're saved cuz Jesus That's how you you're saved cuz Jesus That's how you you're saved cuz Jesus dies for you. dies for you. dies for you. For Gnostics, it's not about what Jesus For Gnostics, it's not about what Jesus For Gnostics, it's not about what Jesus did, it's about having the right did, it's about having the right did, it's about having the right knowledge. knowledge. knowledge. He brings the correct knowledge, and if He brings the correct knowledge, and if He brings the correct knowledge, and if you have the right knowledge, that's you have the right knowledge, that's you have the right knowledge, that's what will save you. So, some of these what will save you. So, some of these what will save you. So, some of these Gnostic Gospels don't even mention the Gnostic Gospels don't even mention the Gnostic Gospels don't even mention the crucifixion. crucifixion. crucifixion. Like, not important. It's not in the Like, not important. It's not in the Like, not important. It's not in the Gospel of Judas. It's not in the Gospel Gospel of Judas. It's not in the Gospel Gospel of Judas. It's not in the Gospel of Thomas. of Thomas. of Thomas. >> So, I think this is really fascinating >> So, I think this is really fascinating >> So, I think this is really fascinating speaking about the Gospel of Judas. Now, speaking about the Gospel of Judas. Now, speaking about the Gospel of Judas. Now, there's so many issues with Judas when there's so many issues with Judas when there's so many issues with Judas when it comes to the the notion of it comes to the the notion of it comes to the the notion of predestinationism and then why would predestinationism and then why would predestinationism and then why would Jesus say it would have been better if Jesus say it would have been better if Jesus say it would have been better if he hadn't been born? I think this is he hadn't been born? I think this is he hadn't been born? I think this is actually a really good point. I heard actually a really good point. I heard actually a really good point. I heard this from a a great scholar where he this from a a great scholar where he this from a a great scholar where he spoke about how the symbolism of what spoke about how the symbolism of what spoke about how the symbolism of what Judas did after he betrayed is what Judas did after he betrayed is what Judas did after he betrayed is what matters, not what happened before. Now, matters, not what happened before. Now, matters, not what happened before. Now, you could say anyone could have done it.

you could say anyone could have done it. you could say anyone could have done it. Judas was the man who betrayed Jesus. He Judas was the man who betrayed Jesus. He Judas was the man who betrayed Jesus. He was the one who gave his best friend was the one who gave his best friend was the one who gave his best friend away to the authorities, you know. If away to the authorities, you know. If away to the authorities, you know. If you look at Peter in the Sanhedrin, you you look at Peter in the Sanhedrin, you you look at Peter in the Sanhedrin, you know, when he goes there and people know know, when he goes there and people know know, when he goes there and people know who he is cuz obviously he looks a bit who he is cuz obviously he looks a bit who he is cuz obviously he looks a bit different from a lot of the people different from a lot of the people different from a lot of the people there, and he says, you know, "Who are there, and he says, you know, "Who are there, and he says, you know, "Who are you?" And he condemns Jesus three times. you?" And he condemns Jesus three times. you?" And he condemns Jesus three times. You know, in the moment of despair when You know, in the moment of despair when You know, in the moment of despair when Jesus is going to be crucified, Peter Jesus is going to be crucified, Peter Jesus is going to be crucified, Peter says, "I don't know this man. I don't says, "I don't know this man. I don't says, "I don't know this man. I don't know him. I don't know him." Your best know him. I don't know him." Your best know him. I don't know him." Your best friend is in the, you know, in the worst friend is in the, you know, in the worst friend is in the, you know, in the worst position about to get through an position about to get through an position about to get through an immolating death, and your best friend immolating death, and your best friend immolating death, and your best friend betrays you. I mean, what could be more betrays you. I mean, what could be more betrays you. I mean, what could be more heartbreaking than that? Jesus puts heartbreaking than that? Jesus puts heartbreaking than that? Jesus puts Peter and forgives him. You know, he he Peter and forgives him. You know, he he Peter and forgives him. You know, he he elevates Peter to be one of the the elevates Peter to be one of the the elevates Peter to be one of the the number one apostles if even if you want number one apostles if even if you want number one apostles if even if you want to call it that. I'm not sure. What does to call it that. I'm not sure. What does to call it that. I'm not sure. What does Judas do when he betrays him and he has Judas do when he betrays him and he has Judas do when he betrays him and he has this guilt and this shame of betraying this guilt and this shame of betraying this guilt and this shame of betraying God, putting God to death? What does he God, putting God to death? What does he God, putting God to death? What does he do? He doesn't ask for forgiveness. He do? He doesn't ask for forgiveness. He do? He doesn't ask for forgiveness. He drowns in his filth. Drowns in his drowns in his filth. Drowns in his drowns in his filth. Drowns in his sadness. The alluringness of self-pity.

sadness. The alluringness of self-pity. sadness. The alluringness of self-pity. And we can take so much from that in the And we can take so much from that in the And we can take so much from that in the in the way we deal with sadness because in the way we deal with sadness because in the way we deal with sadness because how often is it tempting just to be how often is it tempting just to be how often is it tempting just to be miserable, just to be, you know, to miserable, just to be, you know, to miserable, just to be, you know, to drown and wallow in that sadness. But drown and wallow in that sadness. But drown and wallow in that sadness. But instead, Peter, you know, the incredible instead, Peter, you know, the incredible instead, Peter, you know, the incredible evangelist, he does the opposite. He He evangelist, he does the opposite. He He evangelist, he does the opposite. He He fights it. He feels immense guilt. He fights it. He feels immense guilt. He fights it. He feels immense guilt. He feels immense shame. And he He is in feels immense shame. And he He is in feels immense shame. And he He is in pieces about that. He repents and he pieces about that. He repents and he pieces about that. He repents and he becomes an incredible man going around becomes an incredible man going around becomes an incredible man going around preaching, confronting people. You know, preaching, confronting people. You know, preaching, confronting people. You know, that's who Peter becomes. It's the It's that's who Peter becomes. It's the It's that's who Peter becomes. It's the It's an incredible redemption arc. But what an incredible redemption arc. But what an incredible redemption arc. But what does Judas do? He wallows in that does Judas do? He wallows in that does Judas do? He wallows in that sadness and that filth. And how sadness and that filth. And how sadness and that filth. And how difficult it is in life to to resist the difficult it is in life to to resist the difficult it is in life to to resist the urge to do that, to wallow. And urge to do that, to wallow. And urge to do that, to wallow. And self-pity is so addictive. It's so self-pity is so addictive. It's so self-pity is so addictive. It's so pernicious. And we I think we can take pernicious. And we I think we can take pernicious. And we I think we can take so much from that. But regardless of so much from that. But regardless of so much from that. But regardless of that, the Gospel of Judas is that, the Gospel of Judas is that, the Gospel of Judas is fascinating. And I think it goes to show fascinating. And I think it goes to show fascinating. And I think it goes to show how not all Christians believe the same. how not all Christians believe the same. how not all Christians believe the same. You know, Gnostic communities think You know, Gnostic communities think You know, Gnostic communities think something completely different to us. something completely different to us. something completely different to us. And while obviously loads of church And while obviously loads of church And while obviously loads of church fathers like, you know, these are fathers like, you know, these are fathers like, you know, these are heresies, etc., it's important to heresies, etc., it's important to heresies, etc., it's important to remember that, you know, the way we come remember that, you know, the way we come remember that, you know, the way we come to our faith has been people deciding to our faith has been people deciding to our faith has been people deciding it. And is there wisdom in these other it. And is there wisdom in these other it. And is there wisdom in these other texts? I'm not sure, you know. I'm I'm texts? I'm not sure, you know. I'm I'm texts? I'm not sure, you know. I'm I'm sure there is a lot of wisdom and I need sure there is a lot of wisdom and I need sure there is a lot of wisdom and I need to read more of them. But I think it's to read more of them. But I think it's to read more of them. But I think it's important to remember this because important to remember this because important to remember this because there's so many Christians who doll there's so many Christians who doll there's so many Christians who doll their head down in this. And it's like, their head down in this. And it's like, their head down in this. And it's like, for instance, I spoke to a bloke the for instance, I spoke to a bloke the for instance, I spoke to a bloke the other day, you know, this big Christian.

other day, you know, this big Christian. other day, you know, this big Christian. And I was saying to him, "What do you And I was saying to him, "What do you And I was saying to him, "What do you think about majority of scholars think about majority of scholars think about majority of scholars thinking Jesus didn't claim to be God?" thinking Jesus didn't claim to be God?" thinking Jesus didn't claim to be God?" And he's like, "What do you mean? He And he's like, "What do you mean? He And he's like, "What do you mean? He said this. He said that." And it was said this. He said that." And it was said this. He said that." And it was almost like a cognitive dissonance of almost like a cognitive dissonance of almost like a cognitive dissonance of not even wanting to recognize a truth not even wanting to recognize a truth not even wanting to recognize a truth that goes against his view. And I How that goes against his view. And I How that goes against his view. And I How often do I see this when I speak to often do I see this when I speak to often do I see this when I speak to Christians? And there'll be something Christians? And there'll be something Christians? And there'll be something they don't want to be true that they they don't want to be true that they they don't want to be true that they will dismiss. I I just see this again will dismiss. I I just see this again will dismiss. I I just see this again and again. And this is, as I always say and again. And this is, as I always say and again. And this is, as I always say what my channel is about, seeking the what my channel is about, seeking the what my channel is about, seeking the truth with an honest heart. Um and I'm truth with an honest heart. Um and I'm truth with an honest heart. Um and I'm going to do more about the Gnostic going to do more about the Gnostic going to do more about the Gnostic Gospels. And I really want to look more Gospels. And I really want to look more Gospels. And I really want to look more into Gnostic communities cuz I'm reading into Gnostic communities cuz I'm reading into Gnostic communities cuz I'm reading St. Augustine. And the influence this St. Augustine. And the influence this St. Augustine. And the influence this Gnosticism has on him viewing in body Gnosticism has on him viewing in body Gnosticism has on him viewing in body and babies and the flesh is so integral and babies and the flesh is so integral and babies and the flesh is so integral to his theology. And I think we can to his theology. And I think we can to his theology. And I think we can learn so much from that and actually learn so much from that and actually learn so much from that and actually find out what's the truth. What did find out what's the truth. What did find out what's the truth. What did Jesus really preach? And why did certain Jesus really preach? And why did certain Jesus really preach? And why did certain communities come to certain conclusions communities come to certain conclusions communities come to certain conclusions and other communities came to to and other communities came to to and other communities came to to completely different conclusions. I completely different conclusions. I completely different conclusions. I think that's so important to understand think that's so important to understand think that's so important to understand that, to understand the truth, the bias. that, to understand the truth, the bias. that, to understand the truth, the bias. Like it's all matters, ladies and Like it's all matters, ladies and Like it's all matters, ladies and gentlemen. But yeah, I love you all.

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