🤯This Woman Met & Spoke to Jesus

We were in an accident caused by another We were in an accident caused by another horse, a runaway horse, and she flipped horse, a runaway horse, and she flipped horse, a runaway horse, and she flipped over backwards, fell off a hill, over backwards, fell off a hill, over backwards, fell off a hill, and crushed me. and crushed me. and crushed me. Um, immediately unexpectedly left my Um, immediately unexpectedly left my Um, immediately unexpectedly left my body and I saw my found myself 30-40 ft body and I saw my found myself 30-40 ft body and I saw my found myself 30-40 ft up in the air looking down at my dead up in the air looking down at my dead up in the air looking down at my dead body. body. body. And I realized, as I watched everything And I realized, as I watched everything And I realized, as I watched everything happening, I I felt really bad. I didn't happening, I I felt really bad. I didn't happening, I I felt really bad. I didn't want my sisters to see me die. want my sisters to see me die. want my sisters to see me die. But But But I noticed a light over my shoulder. It I noticed a light over my shoulder. It I noticed a light over my shoulder. It was coming over my right shoulder, was coming over my right shoulder, was coming over my right shoulder, flowing, a golden light, and I turned to flowing, a golden light, and I turned to flowing, a golden light, and I turned to look and there was a man floating up look and there was a man floating up look and there was a man floating up there with me, and I recognized him there with me, and I recognized him there with me, and I recognized him immediately, which was kind of unusual. immediately, which was kind of unusual. immediately, which was kind of unusual. I shouldn't have recognized him. I was I shouldn't have recognized him. I was I shouldn't have recognized him. I was raised in an atheist Jewish family, raised in an atheist Jewish family, raised in an atheist Jewish family, and I knew this was Jesus. and I knew this was Jesus. and I knew this was Jesus. So, the minute I recognized him, I said, So, the minute I recognized him, I said, So, the minute I recognized him, I said, "Hi, I know you." And he floated right "Hi, I know you." And he floated right "Hi, I know you." And he floated right by my side, and that was kind of the by my side, and that was kind of the by my side, and that was kind of the beginning of my adventure. I mean, oh my beginning of my adventure. I mean, oh my beginning of my adventure. I mean, oh my goodness. Just just imagine that. goodness. Just just imagine that. goodness. Just just imagine that. Obviously, some people think that she is Obviously, some people think that she is Obviously, some people think that she is lying here. But let's say that is true.

lying here. But let's say that is true. lying here. But let's say that is true. And can I also just make the point that And can I also just make the point that And can I also just make the point that when you look at near-death experiences, when you look at near-death experiences, when you look at near-death experiences, a commonality throughout all of them, a commonality throughout all of them, a commonality throughout all of them, whether you're Christian, whether you're whether you're Christian, whether you're whether you're Christian, whether you're atheist, whether you're whatever, is atheist, whether you're whatever, is atheist, whether you're whatever, is that when they do see somebody who is that when they do see somebody who is that when they do see somebody who is Jesus, even if they don't have a way of Jesus, even if they don't have a way of Jesus, even if they don't have a way of describing in words why they thought it describing in words why they thought it describing in words why they thought it was Jesus, they always say they just was Jesus, they always say they just was Jesus, they always say they just knew. They just knew it was Jesus. And knew. They just knew it was Jesus. And knew. They just knew it was Jesus. And that is something that just pulls my that is something that just pulls my that is something that just pulls my heartstrings a little bit cuz it it goes heartstrings a little bit cuz it it goes heartstrings a little bit cuz it it goes to the tran trans trans dental, if to the tran trans trans dental, if to the tran trans trans dental, if that's even a word, view of Jesus and that's even a word, view of Jesus and that's even a word, view of Jesus and the fact that you will just know. You the fact that you will just know. You the fact that you will just know. You will know. will know. will know. And it's it's something very mystical And it's it's something very mystical And it's it's something very mystical and magical almost, and it's something and magical almost, and it's something and magical almost, and it's something we don't like cuz you can't kind of we don't like cuz you can't kind of we don't like cuz you can't kind of conceptualize in a easy, simplistic way conceptualize in a easy, simplistic way conceptualize in a easy, simplistic way and put weight and trust in what she is and put weight and trust in what she is and put weight and trust in what she is saying here. But if this is true, it saying here. But if this is true, it saying here. But if this is true, it does fit with so many near-death does fit with so many near-death does fit with so many near-death experiences. But let's hear more of this experiences. But let's hear more of this experiences. But let's hear more of this amazing story. And it's interesting, amazing story. And it's interesting, amazing story. And it's interesting, Heidi, how you recognized Jesus right Heidi, how you recognized Jesus right Heidi, how you recognized Jesus right away. Mhm. But as you just said, you away. Mhm. But as you just said, you away. Mhm. But as you just said, you grew up in agnostic atheist a family grew up in agnostic atheist a family grew up in agnostic atheist a family Jewish family atheist Jewish Jewish Jewish family atheist Jewish Jewish Jewish family atheist Jewish Jewish family, right?

family, right? family, right? >> So, that's incredible that you even >> So, that's incredible that you even >> So, that's incredible that you even could understand who Jesus was. And I could understand who Jesus was. And I could understand who Jesus was. And I know if you're is are wondering right know if you're is are wondering right know if you're is are wondering right now, did he have a physical appearance? now, did he have a physical appearance? now, did he have a physical appearance? Like what did he look like? Like what did he look like? Like what did he look like? >> He had a physical appearance. He >> He had a physical appearance. He >> He had a physical appearance. He was a man. He was I knew he was more was a man. He was I knew he was more was a man. He was I knew he was more than a man, but he appeared to be a man. than a man, but he appeared to be a man. than a man, but he appeared to be a man. But he was a perfect man. And uh But he was a perfect man. And uh But he was a perfect man. And uh I always say I couldn't look away from I always say I couldn't look away from I always say I couldn't look away from his face. His face was the most his face. His face was the most his face. His face was the most important thing because of the joy and important thing because of the joy and important thing because of the joy and the love coming from his eyes. I did not the love coming from his eyes. I did not the love coming from his eyes. I did not want to look away from his face. want to look away from his face. want to look away from his face. And his smile was brilliant and And his smile was brilliant and And his smile was brilliant and welcoming and funny. Yeah. And um welcoming and funny. Yeah. And um welcoming and funny. Yeah. And um he he he looked like a man early 30s. Had hair looked like a man early 30s. Had hair looked like a man early 30s. Had hair about my length. It was brown with some about my length. It was brown with some about my length. It was brown with some lighter streaks. He He uh lighter streaks. He He uh lighter streaks. He He uh beautiful hands and feet. I didn't beautiful hands and feet. I didn't beautiful hands and feet. I didn't couldn't He had a work kind of a robe couldn't He had a work kind of a robe couldn't He had a work kind of a robe on. I I can't explain it. It was one of on. I I can't explain it. It was one of on. I I can't explain it. It was one of It was very old-fashioned robe. It was very old-fashioned robe. It was very old-fashioned robe. And uh And uh And uh there was so much light and joy and love there was so much light and joy and love there was so much light and joy and love coming off him that I never wanted to coming off him that I never wanted to coming off him that I never wanted to look away from him. I wanted to be with look away from him. I wanted to be with look away from him. I wanted to be with him forever. Mhm. That's so incredible.

him forever. Mhm. That's so incredible. him forever. Mhm. That's so incredible. I know Heidi in your book you detailed I know Heidi in your book you detailed I know Heidi in your book you detailed that he had a little crook in his nose, that he had a little crook in his nose, that he had a little crook in his nose, which is interesting. which is interesting. which is interesting. >> which I was staring at his nose thinking >> which I was staring at his nose thinking >> which I was staring at his nose thinking cuz I didn't know anything about him. cuz I didn't know anything about him. cuz I didn't know anything about him. And I thought, "Wow, I wonder if his And I thought, "Wow, I wonder if his And I thought, "Wow, I wonder if his brother one of his brothers punched him brother one of his brothers punched him brother one of his brothers punched him in the nose." I had no idea in the nose." I had no idea in the nose." I had no idea that he'd had brothers. I had no idea that he'd had brothers. I had no idea that he'd had brothers. I had no idea that he'd been beaten before the that he'd been beaten before the that he'd been beaten before the crucifixion. I didn't know anything crucifixion. I didn't know anything crucifixion. I didn't know anything about him, but I I looked at his nose about him, but I I looked at his nose about him, but I I looked at his nose and thought it was perfect in its and thought it was perfect in its and thought it was perfect in its imperfection. Yeah. It made him more imperfection. Yeah. It made him more imperfection. Yeah. It made him more relatable. Yes. Yes, God in human form. relatable. Yes. Yes, God in human form. relatable. Yes. Yes, God in human form. God in flesh. Mhm. Oh, that's so God in flesh. Mhm. Oh, that's so God in flesh. Mhm. Oh, that's so beautiful. And and Heidi, you know, you beautiful. And and Heidi, you know, you beautiful. And and Heidi, you know, you you said that there was so much joy and you said that there was so much joy and you said that there was so much joy and humor even emanating out of him. Uh in humor even emanating out of him. Uh in humor even emanating out of him. Uh in the next moments he began to show you a the next moments he began to show you a the next moments he began to show you a review of your life. He did. review of your life. He did. review of your life. He did. >> even moments where he laughed with you. >> even moments where he laughed with you. >> even moments where he laughed with you. >> We were laughing our heads off. >> We were laughing our heads off. >> We were laughing our heads off. He's hilarious. But he was we would He's hilarious. But he was we would He's hilarious. But he was we would there were silly moments in my life. there were silly moments in my life. there were silly moments in my life. There were funny things that happened. There were funny things that happened. There were funny things that happened. It wasn't all dire and doom and gloom. It wasn't all dire and doom and gloom. It wasn't all dire and doom and gloom. And he just laughed right with me. He's And he just laughed right with me. He's And he just laughed right with me. He's got the most amazing sense of humor. I got the most amazing sense of humor. I got the most amazing sense of humor. I always say Jesus is hilarious. We joked always say Jesus is hilarious. We joked always say Jesus is hilarious. We joked and laughed all the way to heaven.

and laughed all the way to heaven. and laughed all the way to heaven. So So So it's it's like we laugh here on Earth it's it's like we laugh here on Earth it's it's like we laugh here on Earth because he laughed first. I don't know because he laughed first. I don't know because he laughed first. I don't know how else to put it. It really is a bit how else to put it. It really is a bit how else to put it. It really is a bit touching isn't it hearing this and touching isn't it hearing this and touching isn't it hearing this and looking at this. It's like looking at this. It's like looking at this. It's like it's in the same John, you know, he it's in the same John, you know, he it's in the same John, you know, he loved us first so we could love. loved us first so we could love. loved us first so we could love. Oh. Oh. Oh. Just Just Just It's so heartwarming this. It really is. It's so heartwarming this. It really is. It's so heartwarming this. It really is. I think our laughter comes from. That's I think our laughter comes from. That's I think our laughter comes from. That's beautiful. beautiful. beautiful. Give us an example of that laughter. I Give us an example of that laughter. I Give us an example of that laughter. I know there's a little story of a pink know there's a little story of a pink know there's a little story of a pink rattle. And as I was reading it, I was rattle. And as I was reading it, I was rattle. And as I was reading it, I was like, "Oh, he laughed." He laughed. It like, "Oh, he laughed." He laughed. It like, "Oh, he laughed." He laughed. It was so funny. I was just a baby in a my was so funny. I was just a baby in a my was so funny. I was just a baby in a my playpen. I was shaking a little pink playpen. I was shaking a little pink playpen. I was shaking a little pink rattle. rattle. rattle. And in my life review, I could see Jesus And in my life review, I could see Jesus And in my life review, I could see Jesus sitting in the playpen next to me sitting in the playpen next to me sitting in the playpen next to me talking to me. So I'm shaking my rattle talking to me. So I'm shaking my rattle talking to me. So I'm shaking my rattle and listening to him. and listening to him. and listening to him. And some people knocked on the door and And some people knocked on the door and And some people knocked on the door and came in. My mother let them in and there came in. My mother let them in and there came in. My mother let them in and there was they had a baby with them. So I'm was they had a baby with them. So I'm was they had a baby with them. So I'm watching all this from my baby eyes and watching all this from my baby eyes and watching all this from my baby eyes and I'm watching it from my I'm watching it from my I'm watching it from my 16-year-old eyes with Jesus. 16-year-old eyes with Jesus. 16-year-old eyes with Jesus. And she put the mom put the baby right And she put the mom put the baby right And she put the mom put the baby right next to me. She put him right where next to me. She put him right where next to me. She put him right where Jesus was sitting. And the first thing Jesus was sitting. And the first thing Jesus was sitting. And the first thing he did was grab the rattle and whack me he did was grab the rattle and whack me he did was grab the rattle and whack me over the nose with it. And I started over the nose with it. And I started over the nose with it. And I started screaming. I wasn't hurt. But Jesus and screaming. I wasn't hurt. But Jesus and screaming. I wasn't hurt. But Jesus and I just burst out laughing. And I could I just burst out laughing. And I could I just burst out laughing. And I could see that even back then, which is very see that even back then, which is very see that even back then, which is very strange to be with him watching this strange to be with him watching this strange to be with him watching this happening and he's sitting with me as a happening and he's sitting with me as a happening and he's sitting with me as a child. I could see that even back then child. I could see that even back then child. I could see that even back then he had chuckled when it had happened. I he had chuckled when it had happened. I he had chuckled when it had happened. I wasn't hurt. I was indignant. I was mad wasn't hurt. I was indignant. I was mad wasn't hurt. I was indignant. I was mad that somebody took my rattle.

that somebody took my rattle. that somebody took my rattle. And um And um And um it was just funny moments like that that it was just funny moments like that that it was just funny moments like that that even though there's something going on even though there's something going on even though there's something going on that might be you might think, "Oh, that might be you might think, "Oh, that might be you might think, "Oh, that's unpleasant." But no, it was that's unpleasant." But no, it was that's unpleasant." But no, it was hilarious. It was just really funny to hilarious. It was just really funny to hilarious. It was just really funny to watch that. There were other moments watch that. There were other moments watch that. There were other moments when I cried watching some things that when I cried watching some things that when I cried watching some things that happened and he was right there with me happened and he was right there with me happened and he was right there with me comforting me. So comforting me. So comforting me. So >> And so you're saying that you would be >> And so you're saying that you would be >> And so you're saying that you would be looking back on that life review, so a looking back on that life review, so a looking back on that life review, so a painful moment where you're crying, and painful moment where you're crying, and painful moment where you're crying, and Jesus is with you looking at the life Jesus is with you looking at the life Jesus is with you looking at the life review, but as you look back, you're review, but as you look back, you're review, but as you look back, you're seeing him with you in the moments of seeing him with you in the moments of seeing him with you in the moments of suffering. Yes, I'm seeing him with me suffering. Yes, I'm seeing him with me suffering. Yes, I'm seeing him with me the entire time. He was never I was the entire time. He was never I was the entire time. He was never I was never alone. I didn't know In a sense, I never alone. I didn't know In a sense, I never alone. I didn't know In a sense, I knew that, but I also didn't know that. knew that, but I also didn't know that. knew that, but I also didn't know that. So this life review shows you that Jesus So this life review shows you that Jesus So this life review shows you that Jesus is with you when you're crying, when is with you when you're crying, when is with you when you're crying, when you're joyful, all throughout your life. you're joyful, all throughout your life. you're joyful, all throughout your life. >> Mhm. And even in moments you said he was >> Mhm. And even in moments you said he was >> Mhm. And even in moments you said he was rocking you to bed at night. Yes, he rocking you to bed at night. Yes, he rocking you to bed at night. Yes, he did. And I didn't know it was him. I did. And I didn't know it was him. I did. And I didn't know it was him. I would just have a sense. I would talk to would just have a sense. I would talk to would just have a sense. I would talk to God all the time. I believed in God God all the time. I believed in God God all the time. I believed in God despite my parents' atheism. despite my parents' atheism. despite my parents' atheism. And I talked to him every night and I And I talked to him every night and I And I talked to him every night and I had the sense that after a while I would had the sense that after a while I would had the sense that after a while I would it would be time to go to sleep and I it would be time to go to sleep and I it would be time to go to sleep and I would feel as if I was wrapped up in the would feel as if I was wrapped up in the would feel as if I was wrapped up in the warmth of a cloud and I could feel my warmth of a cloud and I could feel my warmth of a cloud and I could feel my bed start to sway back and forth and bed start to sway back and forth and bed start to sway back and forth and then even up and down.

then even up and down. then even up and down. And I knew it was God doing that for me, And I knew it was God doing that for me, And I knew it was God doing that for me, but I did not know it was Jesus until I but I did not know it was Jesus until I but I did not know it was Jesus until I saw him in the life review saw him in the life review saw him in the life review doing exactly what I pictured God doing. doing exactly what I pictured God doing. doing exactly what I pictured God doing. And the life review also did touch on And the life review also did touch on And the life review also did touch on painful moments. Actually, uh one of the painful moments. Actually, uh one of the painful moments. Actually, uh one of the moments is a painful moment you caused moments is a painful moment you caused moments is a painful moment you caused with another young boy. Jesus let you with another young boy. Jesus let you with another young boy. Jesus let you see that. see that. see that. >> Mhm. And he he let you see the impact >> Mhm. And he he let you see the impact >> Mhm. And he he let you see the impact that all of us, like our words, our that all of us, like our words, our that all of us, like our words, our negative behaviors towards others can negative behaviors towards others can negative behaviors towards others can have on someone's life. Absolutely. have on someone's life. Absolutely. have on someone's life. Absolutely. >> a bit more about that. I felt >> a bit more about that. I felt >> a bit more about that. I felt I you know, I had said something really I you know, I had said something really I you know, I had said something really insulting to this little this insulting to this little this insulting to this little this 13-year-old boy. I was 10 years old and 13-year-old boy. I was 10 years old and 13-year-old boy. I was 10 years old and he was very small. I was very tall for he was very small. I was very tall for he was very small. I was very tall for my age. my age. my age. And I said, And I said, And I said, "Why are you so shrimpy?" And I felt "Why are you so shrimpy?" And I felt "Why are you so shrimpy?" And I felt really bad when I said it, but then I really bad when I said it, but then I really bad when I said it, but then I thought uh thought uh thought uh it's just words. it's just words. it's just words. It's not just words because when Jesus It's not just words because when Jesus It's not just words because when Jesus showed me this, showed me this, showed me this, I could feel this young man's heart I could feel this young man's heart I could feel this young man's heart shrink in his chest, and I knew I had it shrink in his chest, and I knew I had it shrink in his chest, and I knew I had it I had done that. I had caused that pain. I had done that. I had caused that pain. I had done that. I had caused that pain. I felt his pain.

I felt his pain. I felt his pain. I felt any If I did something good or I felt any If I did something good or I felt any If I did something good or kind or helpful, I could feel the joy or kind or helpful, I could feel the joy or kind or helpful, I could feel the joy or the gratitude that someone else felt. If the gratitude that someone else felt. If the gratitude that someone else felt. If I did anything rude or insulting or I did anything rude or insulting or I did anything rude or insulting or hurtful, I could feel that hurt the hurtful, I could feel that hurt the hurtful, I could feel that hurt the other person felt. And I realized other person felt. And I realized other person felt. And I realized everything we do everything we do everything we do has ripple has a ripple effect. It has has ripple has a ripple effect. It has has ripple has a ripple effect. It has ramifications. ramifications. ramifications. >> Yeah. So, we really need to think about >> Yeah. So, we really need to think about >> Yeah. So, we really need to think about our actions and the things we're saying. our actions and the things we're saying. our actions and the things we're saying. >> Yes. Um you know, Heidi, it's so >> Yes. Um you know, Heidi, it's so >> Yes. Um you know, Heidi, it's so interesting because when you you think interesting because when you you think interesting because when you you think about the person of Jesus, you know, for about the person of Jesus, you know, for about the person of Jesus, you know, for you he's showing you his love and and you he's showing you his love and and you he's showing you his love and and and just, you know, how accepted you and just, you know, how accepted you and just, you know, how accepted you are, right? We're all making these are, right? We're all making these are, right? We're all making these mistakes in life, and you're doing that mistakes in life, and you're doing that mistakes in life, and you're doing that life review with him. Um but also the life review with him. Um but also the life review with him. Um but also the reality is that up until that point you reality is that up until that point you reality is that up until that point you were 16 years old, you had experienced a were 16 years old, you had experienced a were 16 years old, you had experienced a lot of trauma and abuse and neglect in lot of trauma and abuse and neglect in lot of trauma and abuse and neglect in your life. So, intense suffering, and your life. So, intense suffering, and your life. So, intense suffering, and you detailed that in the book. you detailed that in the book. you detailed that in the book. Significant suffering. Um Significant suffering. Um Significant suffering. Um a lot of people they think, you know, a lot of people they think, you know, a lot of people they think, you know, when I meet Jesus, when I die, I'm going when I meet Jesus, when I die, I'm going when I meet Jesus, when I die, I'm going to have questions for him about why I've to have questions for him about why I've to have questions for him about why I've suffered or why this happened or suffered or why this happened or suffered or why this happened or What was that like for you? Did you have What was that like for you? Did you have What was that like for you? Did you have those questions? Did you um feel like those questions? Did you um feel like those questions? Did you um feel like this, you know, you were getting this, you know, you were getting this, you know, you were getting answers? Did you feel resolve about the answers? Did you feel resolve about the answers? Did you feel resolve about the suffering you'd experienced or even suffering you'd experienced or even suffering you'd experienced or even caused? There was no suffering. There caused? There was no suffering. There caused? There was no suffering. There was no more The suffering was gone. I was no more The suffering was gone. I was no more The suffering was gone. I didn't even have a thought about it. I didn't even have a thought about it. I didn't even have a thought about it. I There was not a single thought about There was not a single thought about There was not a single thought about anything I had suffered. There wasn't anything I had suffered. There wasn't anything I had suffered. There wasn't oh, I I want to get even with that oh, I I want to get even with that oh, I I want to get even with that person or why did that person do that?

person or why did that person do that? person or why did that person do that? It was gone. It wasn't my problem. It It was gone. It wasn't my problem. It It was gone. It wasn't my problem. It wasn't my burden to carry. And all I wasn't my burden to carry. And all I wasn't my burden to carry. And all I could think about was Jesus. could think about was Jesus. could think about was Jesus. His joy, his forgiveness, his acceptance His joy, his forgiveness, his acceptance His joy, his forgiveness, his acceptance was everything to me. I did not think was everything to me. I did not think was everything to me. I did not think about any of the bad that had happened. about any of the bad that had happened. about any of the bad that had happened. What was important to me was behavior, What was important to me was behavior, What was important to me was behavior, how we treat each other and how we love how we treat each other and how we love how we treat each other and how we love God. Those were the two things that were God. Those were the two things that were God. Those were the two things that were most important to me. And you know, I most important to me. And you know, I most important to me. And you know, I I actually didn't have as I as I've I actually didn't have as I as I've I actually didn't have as I as I've mentioned in the book, mentioned in the book, mentioned in the book, I didn't have a lot of questions because I didn't have a lot of questions because I didn't have a lot of questions because every all of my questions at the time every all of my questions at the time every all of my questions at the time were answered. Yeah. Oh my goodness, it were answered. Yeah. Oh my goodness, it were answered. Yeah. Oh my goodness, it really is so bewildering to I'm really is so bewildering to I'm really is so bewildering to I'm definitely going to read this book and definitely going to read this book and definitely going to read this book and see people could say this isn't true. see people could say this isn't true. see people could say this isn't true. You could say she's making up. She You could say she's making up. She You could say she's making up. She clearly had um clearly had um clearly had um this experience of some sort of this experience of some sort of this experience of some sort of hallucination or whatever and has made hallucination or whatever and has made hallucination or whatever and has made money out of it. People could be money out of it. People could be money out of it. People could be skeptical saying it can't be true. skeptical saying it can't be true. skeptical saying it can't be true. However, However, However, from what I gather she from what I gather she from what I gather she she kind of rested on what she she kind of rested on what she she kind of rested on what she experienced for a while and I haven't experienced for a while and I haven't experienced for a while and I haven't seen any kind of near-death experience seen any kind of near-death experience seen any kind of near-death experience experts say she's wrong or anything like experts say she's wrong or anything like experts say she's wrong or anything like that. I'm sure there'll be people in the that. I'm sure there'll be people in the that. I'm sure there'll be people in the comments who say, "No, comments who say, "No, comments who say, "No, this isn't heresy. This is Look, maybe this isn't heresy. This is Look, maybe this isn't heresy. This is Look, maybe she is making up, but let's say she is she is making up, but let's say she is she is making up, but let's say she is speaking truth here and this really, speaking truth here and this really, speaking truth here and this really, really did happen. She did have this really did happen. She did have this really did happen. She did have this experience, this this encounter. What we experience, this this encounter. What we experience, this this encounter. What we can just learn so much I think from can just learn so much I think from can just learn so much I think from from the questions being answered. I you from the questions being answered. I you from the questions being answered. I you know, it goes back to Thomas Aquinas, know, it goes back to Thomas Aquinas, know, it goes back to Thomas Aquinas, the the intellectual from what I've seen the the intellectual from what I've seen the the intellectual from what I've seen words cannot do justice. Like we have so words cannot do justice. Like we have so words cannot do justice. Like we have so many questions. I have so many questions many questions. I have so many questions many questions. I have so many questions about the gospels, about you know, did

about the gospels, about you know, did about the gospels, about you know, did people come out of the tombs in Matthew people come out of the tombs in Matthew people come out of the tombs in Matthew and go into Jerusalem and and go into Jerusalem and and go into Jerusalem and you know, so you know, certain you know, so you know, certain you know, so you know, certain contradictions or certain things that contradictions or certain things that contradictions or certain things that don't make sense or like don't make sense or like don't make sense or like why did, you know, Jesus heal people in why did, you know, Jesus heal people in why did, you know, Jesus heal people in Capernaum and all these Capernaum and all these Capernaum and all these But what about places But what about places But what about places all around the world that where there all around the world that where there all around the world that where there were people suffering? Why didn't they were people suffering? Why didn't they were people suffering? Why didn't they heal these people? I have so many heal these people? I have so many heal these people? I have so many questions, ladies and gentlemen. questions, ladies and gentlemen. questions, ladies and gentlemen. But But But what she says here, you know, my what she says here, you know, my what she says here, you know, my questions almost evaporated and it just questions almost evaporated and it just questions almost evaporated and it just made sense. You know, when she saw made sense. You know, when she saw made sense. You know, when she saw Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, she was said, she was said, she was said, "I knew it was him." "I knew it was him." "I knew it was him." And I think that's that belonging, that And I think that's that belonging, that And I think that's that belonging, that sense of sense of sense of you are home. That you are home. That you are home. That inner heart posture, that inner craving inner heart posture, that inner craving inner heart posture, that inner craving that so everyone has for that loving that so everyone has for that loving that so everyone has for that loving and belonging. and belonging. and belonging. Um and Um and Um and and just what she says about pain and and just what she says about pain and and just what she says about pain and suffering and and with that boy, oh my suffering and and with that boy, oh my suffering and and with that boy, oh my goodness, like, you know, the way we goodness, like, you know, the way we goodness, like, you know, the way we look at each other, the way we speak to look at each other, the way we speak to look at each other, the way we speak to each other has such an impact.

each other has such an impact. each other has such an impact. And you know, God hurts when we're mean And you know, God hurts when we're mean And you know, God hurts when we're mean to people and I've certainly been mean to people and I've certainly been mean to people and I've certainly been mean to people in my life and done those to people in my life and done those to people in my life and done those things I really shouldn't have done and things I really shouldn't have done and things I really shouldn't have done and when you think about the damage that when you think about the damage that when you think about the damage that does throughout someone's life, you does throughout someone's life, you does throughout someone's life, you know, it's easy to kind of think, well, know, it's easy to kind of think, well, know, it's easy to kind of think, well, it was just back then, but I know when I it was just back then, but I know when I it was just back then, but I know when I was in school, for instance, I did some was in school, for instance, I did some was in school, for instance, I did some things I I deeply regret and I think things I I deeply regret and I think things I I deeply regret and I think definitely had an impact on people and definitely had an impact on people and definitely had an impact on people and it I have quite a lot of shame, I'd say, it I have quite a lot of shame, I'd say, it I have quite a lot of shame, I'd say, about it because I or guilt because I I about it because I or guilt because I I about it because I or guilt because I I feel feel feel I know that that's had an impact. And I know that that's had an impact. And I know that that's had an impact. And to those people living their lives, to those people living their lives, to those people living their lives, they're going to encounter people, they're going to encounter people, they're going to encounter people, encounter things encounter things encounter things that have an impact because of that. And that have an impact because of that. And that have an impact because of that. And that really hurts me. that really hurts me. that really hurts me. Um Um Um and and and I do really try and like, when I speak I do really try and like, when I speak I do really try and like, when I speak to people, even if I'm angry, to try and to people, even if I'm angry, to try and to people, even if I'm angry, to try and you know, how would I want to be spoken you know, how would I want to be spoken you know, how would I want to be spoken to myself? You know? Um to myself? You know? Um to myself? You know? Um Oh my goodness, I'm I'm loving this. Oh my goodness, I'm I'm loving this. Oh my goodness, I'm I'm loving this. I they were gone.

I they were gone. I they were gone. Um and it all made sense. If you ask me Um and it all made sense. If you ask me Um and it all made sense. If you ask me now exactly what made sense, I can't now exactly what made sense, I can't now exactly what made sense, I can't answer that cuz I can't remember, but answer that cuz I can't remember, but answer that cuz I can't remember, but everything made sense and I realized everything made sense and I realized everything made sense and I realized even through suffering, God was with me. even through suffering, God was with me. even through suffering, God was with me. >> Mhm. There was a purpose to that >> Mhm. There was a purpose to that >> Mhm. There was a purpose to that suffering. Mhm. I learned a lot. Mhm. suffering. Mhm. I learned a lot. Mhm. suffering. Mhm. I learned a lot. Mhm. You know, I it brought me closer to God. You know, I it brought me closer to God. You know, I it brought me closer to God. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. It's amazing the idea that you do have It's amazing the idea that you do have It's amazing the idea that you do have answers when you're with God in answers when you're with God in answers when you're with God in eternity. Yeah. And yet you can't eternity. Yeah. And yet you can't eternity. Yeah. And yet you can't articulate them now, but it is an articulate them now, but it is an articulate them now, but it is an encouragement to viewers who may be encouragement to viewers who may be encouragement to viewers who may be suffering or struggling or wondering you suffering or struggling or wondering you suffering or struggling or wondering you know about why things are happening the know about why things are happening the know about why things are happening the way they're happening. Um, that journey way they're happening. Um, that journey way they're happening. Um, that journey with Jesus was uh with Jesus was uh with Jesus was uh so beautiful and it continued until you so beautiful and it continued until you so beautiful and it continued until you were with God the Father. It Tell us were with God the Father. It Tell us were with God the Father. It Tell us about that. about that. about that. >> That it was amazing. I I had so much fun >> That it was amazing. I I had so much fun >> That it was amazing. I I had so much fun with Jesus. We surfed on a wave of light with Jesus. We surfed on a wave of light with Jesus. We surfed on a wave of light and I could see all this light of all and I could see all this light of all and I could see all this light of all colors underneath our feet. It was colors underneath our feet. It was colors underneath our feet. It was tickling the bottoms of my feet. It was tickling the bottoms of my feet. It was tickling the bottoms of my feet. It was flowing through my fingers like water. flowing through my fingers like water. flowing through my fingers like water. And uh we we talked and we laughed all And uh we we talked and we laughed all And uh we we talked and we laughed all the way to heaven. I guess it was the way to heaven. I guess it was the way to heaven. I guess it was what I can only describe as heaven.

what I can only describe as heaven. what I can only describe as heaven. We did pass things but and I I detail We did pass things but and I I detail We did pass things but and I I detail that in the book. But a lot of what I that in the book. But a lot of what I that in the book. But a lot of what I saw I only saw because I was staring at saw I only saw because I was staring at saw I only saw because I was staring at Jesus' face. I couldn't look away from Jesus' face. I couldn't look away from Jesus' face. I couldn't look away from his face and I would see things passing his face and I would see things passing his face and I would see things passing by behind him. by behind him. by behind him. But when we did get to God the Father we But when we did get to God the Father we But when we did get to God the Father we came to a point where there was almost a came to a point where there was almost a came to a point where there was almost a threshold that I we crossed like a threshold that I we crossed like a threshold that I we crossed like a doorway like entering a doorway and once doorway like entering a doorway and once doorway like entering a doorway and once we entered the doorway we entered a we entered the doorway we entered a we entered the doorway we entered a light and it was a a living light. The light and it was a a living light. The light and it was a a living light. The light was love. light was love. light was love. And I knew the light was God and the And I knew the light was God and the And I knew the light was God and the next thing I knew I was sitting on God's next thing I knew I was sitting on God's next thing I knew I was sitting on God's lap and it was God and it was Jesus. lap and it was God and it was Jesus. lap and it was God and it was Jesus. They're both together. They're both together. They're both together. Um, the Holy Spirit if it was there I Um, the Holy Spirit if it was there I Um, the Holy Spirit if it was there I was not aware of it at that point was not aware of it at that point was not aware of it at that point because Jesus left me with the Holy because Jesus left me with the Holy because Jesus left me with the Holy Spirit later but I saw I was God the Spirit later but I saw I was God the Spirit later but I saw I was God the Father and Jesus were one in the same Father and Jesus were one in the same Father and Jesus were one in the same and yet separate. and yet separate. and yet separate. So I was sitting on God's lap like a So I was sitting on God's lap like a So I was sitting on God's lap like a toddler kicking her feet. toddler kicking her feet. toddler kicking her feet. And I had my face buried in his chest And I had my face buried in his chest And I had my face buried in his chest and I I never wanted to leave. I just and I I never wanted to leave. I just and I I never wanted to leave. I just wanted to sit there forever for all wanted to sit there forever for all wanted to sit there forever for all eternity.

eternity. eternity. Um, he's a big God. Um, he's a big God. Um, he's a big God. I tried to look I tried to look up and I tried to look I tried to look up and I tried to look I tried to look up and sneak a look at his face but I couldn't sneak a look at his face but I couldn't sneak a look at his face but I couldn't see it. It was shrouded somehow. It was see it. It was shrouded somehow. It was see it. It was shrouded somehow. It was covered somehow. covered somehow. covered somehow. But it you know you I could I kept my But it you know you I could I kept my But it you know you I could I kept my eyes glued to Jesus' face the entire eyes glued to Jesus' face the entire eyes glued to Jesus' face the entire time. I couldn't look at God's face. time. I couldn't look at God's face. time. I couldn't look at God's face. And um and it was from God's lap that he And um and it was from God's lap that he And um and it was from God's lap that he showed me showed me showed me what I did see of heaven. what I did see of heaven. what I did see of heaven. What did you see? What did you see? What did you see? I saw it was infinite infinitely far I saw it was infinite infinitely far I saw it was infinite infinitely far away. If you can imagine looking across away. If you can imagine looking across away. If you can imagine looking across an entire universe, I was looking across an entire universe, I was looking across an entire universe, I was looking across an entire universe. an entire universe. an entire universe. And the first thing I saw was grass. And the first thing I saw was grass. And the first thing I saw was grass. I'm not I was very near-sighted on I'm not I was very near-sighted on I'm not I was very near-sighted on Earth. I I I couldn't see very well and Earth. I I I couldn't see very well and Earth. I I I couldn't see very well and but I could see perfectly. And but I could see perfectly. And but I could see perfectly. And I could see green grass. I could see I could see green grass. I could see I could see green grass. I could see every single blade of every of this every single blade of every of this every single blade of every of this green grass in this massive meadow, this green grass in this massive meadow, this green grass in this massive meadow, this infinite meadow. infinite meadow. infinite meadow. I mean, that sounds so similar to the I mean, that sounds so similar to the I mean, that sounds so similar to the Great Divorce. Great Divorce. Great Divorce. Either she's Either she's Either she's read the Great Divorce and has taken read the Great Divorce and has taken read the Great Divorce and has taken inferences from that without realizing inferences from that without realizing inferences from that without realizing or maybe she she's not I I think she's or maybe she she's not I I think she's or maybe she she's not I I think she's being genuine and I think this is from being genuine and I think this is from being genuine and I think this is from her heart and she really experienced her heart and she really experienced her heart and she really experienced this. And I this. And I this. And I um we like we believe Lewis there or um we like we believe Lewis there or um we like we believe Lewis there or what Lewis described what Lewis described what Lewis described in the Great Divorce is what is actually in the Great Divorce is what is actually in the Great Divorce is what is actually true. He somehow plucks true. He somehow plucks true. He somehow plucks his imagination to the truth.

his imagination to the truth. his imagination to the truth. A fictional story about heaven and hell. I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised. Um now part of me is like drawn to want Um now part of me is like drawn to want Um now part of me is like drawn to want it to be true obviously because this is it to be true obviously because this is it to be true obviously because this is incredible and maybe it's not true. incredible and maybe it's not true. incredible and maybe it's not true. Um Um Um but but but Ah, I really you know Ah, I really you know Ah, I really you know I like when I when I see videos like I like when I when I see videos like I like when I when I see videos like this, I just think mate, this, I just think mate, this, I just think mate, how I don't get how Dawkins thinks there how I don't get how Dawkins thinks there how I don't get how Dawkins thinks there is no supernatural. Like even if this is no supernatural. Like even if this is no supernatural. Like even if this woman is making this whole thing up, woman is making this whole thing up, woman is making this whole thing up, right? How many people have said stuff right? How many people have said stuff right? How many people have said stuff like this? like this? like this? If one of them is true, there is another If one of them is true, there is another If one of them is true, there is another realm. If one of them out of the realm. If one of them out of the realm. If one of them out of the millions and millions of people who millions and millions of people who millions and millions of people who experience miracles, near death experience miracles, near death experience miracles, near death experiences, experiences, experiences, miraculous stories that don't make miraculous stories that don't make miraculous stories that don't make sense, you know. sense, you know. sense, you know. If just one of them is true, If just one of them is true, If just one of them is true, just one of them, maybe 99.9% just one of them, maybe 99.9% just one of them, maybe 99.9% of them are making up, hallucinating, of them are making up, hallucinating, of them are making up, hallucinating, wanting to be true, have a wanting to be true, have a wanting to be true, have a predisposition to believe a certain predisposition to believe a certain predisposition to believe a certain thing, maybe lack of oxygen so producing thing, maybe lack of oxygen so producing thing, maybe lack of oxygen so producing a certain um chemical in the brain, you a certain um chemical in the brain, you a certain um chemical in the brain, you know.

know. know. If just one of them is true, that means If just one of them is true, that means If just one of them is true, that means there is another realm. there is another realm. there is another realm. And I think Arkham's razor, you know, And I think Arkham's razor, you know, And I think Arkham's razor, you know, there there's something else out there, there there's something else out there, there there's something else out there, ladies and gentlemen. This isn't it. I ladies and gentlemen. This isn't it. I ladies and gentlemen. This isn't it. I don't believe this is it. We have every don't believe this is it. We have every don't believe this is it. We have every night we go to bed and we have dreams. night we go to bed and we have dreams. night we go to bed and we have dreams. And we go to places that feel so so damn And we go to places that feel so so damn And we go to places that feel so so damn real. We don't even know that they're real. We don't even know that they're real. We don't even know that they're not real often in the dream. not real often in the dream. not real often in the dream. Like what what is happening there? You Like what what is happening there? You Like what what is happening there? You know, people say, "Well, that's our our know, people say, "Well, that's our our know, people say, "Well, that's our our brain resting, flushing out thoughts, brain resting, flushing out thoughts, brain resting, flushing out thoughts, flushing out You know, it's it's like a flushing out You know, it's it's like a flushing out You know, it's it's like a recycling bin almost. Our thoughts." recycling bin almost. Our thoughts." recycling bin almost. Our thoughts." That's why when you're depressed, you That's why when you're depressed, you That's why when you're depressed, you you don't recycle your thoughts. I know you don't recycle your thoughts. I know you don't recycle your thoughts. I know there's a lot of um there's a lot of um there's a lot of um biologists who spoke about that, but biologists who spoke about that, but biologists who spoke about that, but yeah. I do I do think there's there's yeah. I do I do think there's there's yeah. I do I do think there's there's got to be something. You know what I got to be something. You know what I got to be something. You know what I mean? There has to be something out mean? There has to be something out mean? There has to be something out there. Um I just think there. Um I just think there. Um I just think all these instances, there just has to. all these instances, there just has to. all these instances, there just has to. Now, you could say, Now, you could say, Now, you could say, "Well, is that Jesus? "Well, is that Jesus? "Well, is that Jesus? You know, she was Jewish, so she You know, she was Jewish, so she You know, she was Jewish, so she obviously did believe obviously did believe obviously did believe in some like she said she was a in some like she said she was a in some like she said she was a Christian, but her parents weren't.

Christian, but her parents weren't. Christian, but her parents weren't. She didn't even Jesus obviously being She didn't even Jesus obviously being She didn't even Jesus obviously being the Messiah, but there's a maybe a the Messiah, but there's a maybe a the Messiah, but there's a maybe a predisposition to maybe when she was a predisposition to maybe when she was a predisposition to maybe when she was a baby or something there was some Bible baby or something there was some Bible baby or something there was some Bible song she heard or maybe a film she song she heard or maybe a film she song she heard or maybe a film she watched without realizing she absorbed watched without realizing she absorbed watched without realizing she absorbed that. Maybe. Who knows? that. Maybe. Who knows? that. Maybe. Who knows? But again, But again, But again, if just one of these crazy stories is if just one of these crazy stories is if just one of these crazy stories is true, but anyway, I I do really believe true, but anyway, I I do really believe true, but anyway, I I do really believe it's true, so I don't want to degrade it it's true, so I don't want to degrade it it's true, so I don't want to degrade it cuz I'm going to read a book and I think cuz I'm going to read a book and I think cuz I'm going to read a book and I think she's speaking from the heart. I know she's speaking from the heart. I know she's speaking from the heart. I know it's not based most it's not based most it's not based most evidence-based thing ever me just say I evidence-based thing ever me just say I evidence-based thing ever me just say I think she's telling the truth. But the think she's telling the truth. But the think she's telling the truth. But the way she's communicating I think is way she's communicating I think is way she's communicating I think is screams true. But, you know, what does screams true. But, you know, what does screams true. But, you know, what does that mean? Anyway, I'm I'm I didn't go that mean? Anyway, I'm I'm I didn't go that mean? Anyway, I'm I'm I didn't go to uni so it doesn't really have much to uni so it doesn't really have much to uni so it doesn't really have much weight. weight. weight. And I heard the grass singing. And I heard the grass singing. And I heard the grass singing. Which Which Which was was remarkable. It was amazing. And was was remarkable. It was amazing. And was was remarkable. It was amazing. And it was the thing that left the biggest it was the thing that left the biggest it was the thing that left the biggest impression on me was that that grass and impression on me was that that grass and impression on me was that that grass and the song of the grass. The grass was the song of the grass. The grass was the song of the grass. The grass was singing the praises of God. singing the praises of God. singing the praises of God. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. I looked a little bit farther I looked a little bit farther I looked a little bit farther and I saw flowers.

and I saw flowers. and I saw flowers. I saw all different colors of flowers, I saw all different colors of flowers, I saw all different colors of flowers, but I kept coming back to these really but I kept coming back to these really but I kept coming back to these really blue flowers that looked like irises. blue flowers that looked like irises. blue flowers that looked like irises. I looked farther and I saw a grove upon I looked farther and I saw a grove upon I looked farther and I saw a grove upon grove of tree trees. And they looked grove of tree trees. And they looked grove of tree trees. And they looked like kind of like aspen trees. That's like kind of like aspen trees. That's like kind of like aspen trees. That's the best way I can describe it. the best way I can describe it. the best way I can describe it. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. And I could see every leaf on every tree And I could see every leaf on every tree And I could see every leaf on every tree and every vein on every leaf on every and every vein on every leaf on every and every vein on every leaf on every tree. tree. tree. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. And I noticed they were moving. The And I noticed they were moving. The And I noticed they were moving. The leaves were moving. The leaves were leaves were moving. The leaves were leaves were moving. The leaves were quaking. Yeah. Um the flowers were quaking. Yeah. Um the flowers were quaking. Yeah. Um the flowers were swaying and they were all moving in time swaying and they were all moving in time swaying and they were all moving in time to the song of the grass and everything to the song of the grass and everything to the song of the grass and everything was moving in the light of God. It was was moving in the light of God. It was was moving in the light of God. It was God's light animating everything. Mhm. God's light animating everything. Mhm. God's light animating everything. Mhm. I looked a little farther and I saw a I looked a little farther and I saw a I looked a little farther and I saw a pathway. A pathway now began to open up pathway. A pathway now began to open up pathway. A pathway now began to open up through the meadow. through the meadow. through the meadow. And I could And I could And I could hear and see I could hear people singing hear and see I could hear people singing hear and see I could hear people singing and they were singing the same song as and they were singing the same song as and they were singing the same song as the grass. Wow. And I could see them the grass. Wow. And I could see them the grass. Wow. And I could see them coming, but they were veiled. I couldn't coming, but they were veiled. I couldn't coming, but they were veiled. I couldn't see their faces yet. I couldn't see them see their faces yet. I couldn't see them see their faces yet. I couldn't see them yet. yet. yet. And it was then that Jesus came back and And it was then that Jesus came back and And it was then that Jesus came back and told me I I needed to go back. Mhm. And told me I I needed to go back. Mhm. And told me I I needed to go back. Mhm. And so you so you so you are sent back to Earth.

are sent back to Earth. are sent back to Earth. >> I argued with him about it. >> I argued with him about it. >> I argued with him about it. >> I get it. Yeah, I didn't want to go >> I get it. Yeah, I didn't want to go >> I get it. Yeah, I didn't want to go back. back. back. >> heaven. I get it. >> heaven. I get it. >> heaven. I get it. Oh, wow. And you come back to Earth with Oh, wow. And you come back to Earth with Oh, wow. And you come back to Earth with this big experience. Mhm. You told your this big experience. Mhm. You told your this big experience. Mhm. You told your sisters what happened, but you didn't sisters what happened, but you didn't sisters what happened, but you didn't tell many family members. You tried to. tell many family members. You tried to. tell many family members. You tried to. >> I tried to initially. >> I tried to initially. >> I tried to initially. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And Heidi And Heidi And Heidi now today you're sharing your story. And now today you're sharing your story. And now today you're sharing your story. And of course your story appears in um one of course your story appears in um one of course your story appears in um one of John Burke's books on near death of John Burke's books on near death of John Burke's books on near death experiences but experiences but experiences but your story now in your book and there your story now in your book and there your story now in your book and there are so many life lessons you've learned are so many life lessons you've learned are so many life lessons you've learned from this journey. You know, for our from this journey. You know, for our from this journey. You know, for our viewers watching right now viewers watching right now viewers watching right now who may be facing the end of life or or who may be facing the end of life or or who may be facing the end of life or or having um having um having um or in a situation where their family or in a situation where their family or in a situation where their family member or loved one is member or loved one is member or loved one is what would you say to them as a word of what would you say to them as a word of what would you say to them as a word of encouragement given your experience of encouragement given your experience of encouragement given your experience of the reality of God and heaven? the reality of God and heaven? the reality of God and heaven? The one word is hope. I had no hope The one word is hope. I had no hope The one word is hope. I had no hope before my near death experience. before my near death experience. before my near death experience. I was hopeless. I had no hope I was hopeless. I had no hope I was hopeless. I had no hope whatsoever.

whatsoever. whatsoever. So I would say yes, I took away hope. So I would say yes, I took away hope. So I would say yes, I took away hope. It's it's probably the biggest takeaway It's it's probably the biggest takeaway It's it's probably the biggest takeaway that and and God's love and the fact that and and God's love and the fact that and and God's love and the fact that he is real, that heaven is real that he is real, that heaven is real that he is real, that heaven is real and and and I knew that um I knew that um I knew that um the one thing I needed to do in this the one thing I needed to do in this the one thing I needed to do in this life was follow Jesus. life was follow Jesus. life was follow Jesus. Honestly, follow him and follow Honestly, follow him and follow Honestly, follow him and follow treat my neighbors well, treat myself treat my neighbors well, treat myself treat my neighbors well, treat myself well, treat my children well and love well, treat my children well and love well, treat my children well and love God. God. God. >> Yeah. But yes, there's a lot of tragedy >> Yeah. But yes, there's a lot of tragedy >> Yeah. But yes, there's a lot of tragedy in this life. I'm a nurse, I'm a hospice in this life. I'm a nurse, I'm a hospice in this life. I'm a nurse, I'm a hospice nurse so I dealt with I've dealt with nurse so I dealt with I've dealt with nurse so I dealt with I've dealt with tragedy for years and I understand that tragedy for years and I understand that tragedy for years and I understand that but God is always with us. He never but God is always with us. He never but God is always with us. He never leaves us. He's always there. What an leaves us. He's always there. What an leaves us. He's always there. What an incredible story. Um incredible story. Um incredible story. Um I I do believe it's true. Let me know, I I do believe it's true. Let me know, I I do believe it's true. Let me know, do you think this this woman really do you think this this woman really do you think this this woman really really met Jesus, really met Jesus, really met Jesus, went to heaven and came back? went to heaven and came back? went to heaven and came back? I mean, what a claim but there's I mean, what a claim but there's I mean, what a claim but there's something that screams true here and I something that screams true here and I something that screams true here and I hope that to anyone struggling this does hope that to anyone struggling this does hope that to anyone struggling this does help them a bit and also just makes you help them a bit and also just makes you help them a bit and also just makes you think, you know, there is a realm out think, you know, there is a realm out think, you know, there is a realm out there. I really believe with all my there. I really believe with all my there. I really believe with all my heart that Jesus who walked around from heart that Jesus who walked around from heart that Jesus who walked around from Nazareth was God and I do really really Nazareth was God and I do really really Nazareth was God and I do really really believe in the afterlife.

believe in the afterlife. believe in the afterlife. And that one day we will want to our And that one day we will want to our And that one day we will want to our Lord Jesus Christ. Be a love you all. Lord Jesus Christ. Be a love you all. Lord Jesus Christ. Be a love you all. Hope you do enjoy and I'll catch you all Hope you do enjoy and I'll catch you all Hope you do enjoy and I'll catch you all in the next one very soon.