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Open Faith April 9, 2026 17m

EXPLAINED: Most Terrifying Words Jesus Ever Spoke...

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  1. The verse that haunts many Christians The verse that haunts many Christians today from our Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus today from our Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus today from our Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus says, "Not everyone who says to me, says, "Not everyone who says to me, says, "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of heaven, but the one who does the will of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day my Father who is in heaven. On that day my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy or work in your name, cast not prophesy or work in your name, cast not prophesy or work in your name, cast out demons in your name, and do many out demons in your name, and do many out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?' And then I mighty works in your name?' And then I mighty works in your name?' And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you. will declare to them, 'I never knew you. will declare to them, 'I never knew you. Depart from me.'" Oh my goodness, what a Depart from me.'" Oh my goodness, what a Depart from me.'" Oh my goodness, what a terrifying verse that. You never knew terrifying verse that. You never knew terrifying verse that. You never knew me. And it really kind of pulls the me. And it really kind of pulls the me. And it really kind of pulls the heartstrings of being a human being and heartstrings of being a human being and heartstrings of being a human being and picturing me and Jesus one day and him picturing me and Jesus one day and him picturing me and Jesus one day and him saying, "I never saying, "I never saying, "I never knew you." Just really sit and think knew you." Just really sit and think knew you." Just really sit and think about that. Who we are today on earth about that. Who we are today on earth about that. Who we are today on earth and who the way we carry ourselves, the and who the way we carry ourselves, the and who the way we carry ourselves, the way we treat one another really matters. way we treat one another really matters. way we treat one another really matters. It really, really matters. I mean, It really, really matters. I mean, It really, really matters. I mean, Dietrich Bonhoeffer speaks about it, you Dietrich Bonhoeffer speaks about it, you Dietrich Bonhoeffer speaks about it, you know. We are disciples in Christ, you know. We are disciples in Christ, you know. We are disciples in Christ, you know. Fellowship with one another is as know. Fellowship with one another is as know. Fellowship with one another is as important as anything. We must never, important as anything. We must never, important as anything. We must never, ever forget that. But let's hear more ever forget that. But let's hear more ever forget that. But let's hear more from Sean McDowell, the incredible from Sean McDowell, the incredible from Sean McDowell, the incredible theologian, on this terrifying but kind theologian, on this terrifying but kind theologian, on this terrifying but kind of stark verse that we can learn so much of stark verse that we can learn so much of stark verse that we can learn so much about what it means to truly be a about what it means to truly be a about what it means to truly be a Christian.

  2. Christian. Christian. This raises a ton of questions we can This raises a ton of questions we can This raises a ton of questions we can explore here. And I want to get your explore here. And I want to get your explore here. And I want to get your take. But are you aware of different take. But are you aware of different take. But are you aware of different ways that people might interpret this ways that people might interpret this ways that people might interpret this passage? Some people would say that you passage? Some people would say that you passage? Some people would say that you can be a true believer evidencing actual can be a true believer evidencing actual can be a true believer evidencing actual fruit of being a true believer fruit of being a true believer fruit of being a true believer and then walk away and no longer be a and then walk away and no longer be a and then walk away and no longer be a true disciple of Jesus. That that you true disciple of Jesus. That that you true disciple of Jesus. That that you can cease to be a true disciple uh can cease to be a true disciple uh can cease to be a true disciple uh a Christian. a Christian. a Christian. And so you showed evidences of God's And so you showed evidences of God's And so you showed evidences of God's work in your life and then you walk away work in your life and then you walk away work in your life and then you walk away from the source of that and are no from the source of that and are no from the source of that and are no longer in that relationship with him. longer in that relationship with him. longer in that relationship with him. There are traditions that would say There are traditions that would say There are traditions that would say that, approaches to the passage to say that, approaches to the passage to say that, approaches to the passage to say that. that. that. And and what lends credence to that is And and what lends credence to that is And and what lends credence to that is how strongly it talks about these how strongly it talks about these how strongly it talks about these evidences. It's very strong that there's evidences. It's very strong that there's evidences. It's very strong that there's there's an enlightenment that's taken there's an enlightenment that's taken there's an enlightenment that's taken place. You've tasted the heavenly gift. place. You've tasted the heavenly gift. place. You've tasted the heavenly gift. You've shared in the Holy Spirit. You've You've shared in the Holy Spirit. You've You've shared in the Holy Spirit. You've tasted the goodness of the word of God tasted the goodness of the word of God tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come. That and the powers of the age to come. That and the powers of the age to come. That sounds like somebody who's a true sounds like somebody who's a true sounds like somebody who's a true believer.

  3. believer. believer. >> Mhm. And so the only way that you lose >> Mhm. And so the only way that you lose >> Mhm. And so the only way that you lose that is to walk away from him and cease that is to walk away from him and cease that is to walk away from him and cease to be a true believer. There are other to be a true believer. There are other to be a true believer. There are other traditions that think that once you are traditions that think that once you are traditions that think that once you are a believer, that that's how you stay and a believer, that that's how you stay and a believer, that that's how you stay and God makes sure that happens. God makes sure that happens. God makes sure that happens. Have to look at those evidences as Have to look at those evidences as Have to look at those evidences as things that unbelievers are able to things that unbelievers are able to things that unbelievers are able to evidence. evidence. evidence. That there is an ability for whether That there is an ability for whether That there is an ability for whether it's demonic spiritual power to take it's demonic spiritual power to take it's demonic spiritual power to take place in your life and have an effect. I place in your life and have an effect. I place in your life and have an effect. I mean, even think of the magicians during mean, even think of the magicians during mean, even think of the magicians during the Exodus. the Exodus. the Exodus. >> Exodus, yeah. That it it doesn't those >> Exodus, yeah. That it it doesn't those >> Exodus, yeah. That it it doesn't those don't seem like they're fake magic don't seem like they're fake magic don't seem like they're fake magic tricks. They actually seem to be tricks. They actually seem to be tricks. They actually seem to be demonically enabled miracles. demonically enabled miracles. demonically enabled miracles. >> Mhm. So, this is really fascinating. I >> Mhm. So, this is really fascinating. I >> Mhm. So, this is really fascinating. I think it goes so much to the famous think it goes so much to the famous think it goes so much to the famous parable that Jesus speaks about with the parable that Jesus speaks about with the parable that Jesus speaks about with the servants and the denarius where someone servants and the denarius where someone servants and the denarius where someone owes the boss a lot of money and he lets owes the boss a lot of money and he lets owes the boss a lot of money and he lets him off and then doesn't put him in him off and then doesn't put him in him off and then doesn't put him in jail, but then when that servant then jail, but then when that servant then jail, but then when that servant then becomes wealthy and becomes powerful, he becomes wealthy and becomes powerful, he becomes wealthy and becomes powerful, he then has a servant who owes him a small then has a servant who owes him a small then has a servant who owes him a small fraction of what he owed to his former fraction of what he owed to his former fraction of what he owed to his former boss and he didn't let the servant off boss and he didn't let the servant off boss and he didn't let the servant off and instead put him in jail. And I think and instead put him in jail. And I think and instead put him in jail. And I think that epitomizes that epitomizes that epitomizes when, you know, you're given empathy, when, you know, you're given empathy, when, you know, you're given empathy, when you're given the glimmer of the when you're given the glimmer of the when you're given the glimmer of the divine, when you're given that love, divine, when you're given that love, divine, when you're given that love, that patience, that unconditional love, that patience, that unconditional love, that patience, that unconditional love, it is your duty as a Christian to show it is your duty as a Christian to show it is your duty as a Christian to show that to your fellow brother and sister.

  4. that to your fellow brother and sister. that to your fellow brother and sister. And when we don't, God sees that and he And when we don't, God sees that and he And when we don't, God sees that and he does not forget the way you treated does not forget the way you treated does not forget the way you treated other people when you were them. You other people when you were them. You other people when you were them. You know, it's one thing to receive mercy, know, it's one thing to receive mercy, know, it's one thing to receive mercy, it's one thing to receive blessings, but it's one thing to receive blessings, but it's one thing to receive blessings, but if you do not do the same to your fellow if you do not do the same to your fellow if you do not do the same to your fellow brother and sister, you will be viewed brother and sister, you will be viewed brother and sister, you will be viewed very differently very differently very differently in the eyes of God, you know. When we in the eyes of God, you know. When we in the eyes of God, you know. When we are shown mercy, we must show equal are shown mercy, we must show equal are shown mercy, we must show equal mercy to those brothers and sisters in mercy to those brothers and sisters in mercy to those brothers and sisters in Christ. And I think that really goes to Christ. And I think that really goes to Christ. And I think that really goes to the root of so much of what he says the root of so much of what he says the root of so much of what he says here. You know, the the way we treat here. You know, the the way we treat here. You know, the the way we treat others. How [snorts] do we view getting others. How [snorts] do we view getting others. How [snorts] do we view getting treated ourselves? You know, often treated ourselves? You know, often treated ourselves? You know, often people speak about forgiveness. We we people speak about forgiveness. We we people speak about forgiveness. We we speak about others forgiving us. May speak about others forgiving us. May speak about others forgiving us. May that be we do a wrong doing and then that be we do a wrong doing and then that be we do a wrong doing and then we're like, "Oh, why don't they forgive we're like, "Oh, why don't they forgive we're like, "Oh, why don't they forgive us?" And then they do forgive us. And us?" And then they do forgive us. And us?" And then they do forgive us. And when we think about how many times we when we think about how many times we when we think about how many times we commit wrong acts, how many times we commit wrong acts, how many times we commit wrong acts, how many times we lie, how many times we cheat, how many lie, how many times we cheat, how many lie, how many times we cheat, how many times we do things that we shouldn't do, times we do things that we shouldn't do, times we do things that we shouldn't do, and we let ourselves off. But the same and we let ourselves off. But the same and we let ourselves off. But the same person we know, may that be our sister, person we know, may that be our sister, person we know, may that be our sister, brother, girlfriend, wife, whatever, brother, girlfriend, wife, whatever, brother, girlfriend, wife, whatever, will do an act, and it will be an anger will do an act, and it will be an anger will do an act, and it will be an anger in your heart against them.

  5. in your heart against them. in your heart against them. And all of a sudden, you're not And all of a sudden, you're not And all of a sudden, you're not forgiving them super easily. You're not forgiving them super easily. You're not forgiving them super easily. You're not forgetting super easily like yourself. forgetting super easily like yourself. forgetting super easily like yourself. You're not saying, "Well, now I'm doing You're not saying, "Well, now I'm doing You're not saying, "Well, now I'm doing this. Now I've redeemed myself." No, this. Now I've redeemed myself." No, this. Now I've redeemed myself." No, you're holding that resentment in your you're holding that resentment in your you're holding that resentment in your heart. You're holding that grudge in heart. You're holding that grudge in heart. You're holding that grudge in your heart. And I think that goes to the your heart. And I think that goes to the your heart. And I think that goes to the heart of so much of what Jesus means heart of so much of what Jesus means heart of so much of what Jesus means when he says, "I never knew you." You when he says, "I never knew you." You when he says, "I never knew you." You know, it's one thing to commit good know, it's one thing to commit good know, it's one thing to commit good acts, it's one thing to do things, but acts, it's one thing to do things, but acts, it's one thing to do things, but where's your heart at? You know, the where's your heart at? You know, the where's your heart at? You know, the last will be first, the first will be last will be first, the first will be last will be first, the first will be last, the workers in the vineyard last, the workers in the vineyard last, the workers in the vineyard parable. We can take so much fruit from parable. We can take so much fruit from parable. We can take so much fruit from that. We really can. And let's hear more that. We really can. And let's hear more that. We really can. And let's hear more absolute wisdom from these incredible absolute wisdom from these incredible absolute wisdom from these incredible theologians. theologians. theologians. And so And so And so so others would say, "No, these are just so others would say, "No, these are just so others would say, "No, these are just evidences that may be very impressive evidences that may be very impressive evidences that may be very impressive externally, but they don't necessarily externally, but they don't necessarily externally, but they don't necessarily indicate that there's a true work of God indicate that there's a true work of God indicate that there's a true work of God that's taken place, and someone is a new that's taken place, and someone is a new that's taken place, and someone is a new creature in Christ." And so you can give creature in Christ." And so you can give creature in Christ." And so you can give evidence evidence evidence either through demonic ability to do the either through demonic ability to do the either through demonic ability to do the miraculous miraculous miraculous or God may even use an unbeliever in a or God may even use an unbeliever in a or God may even use an unbeliever in a miraculous way to bring about something miraculous way to bring about something miraculous way to bring about something that looks like an evidence but it that looks like an evidence but it that looks like an evidence but it actually isn't. You know, one actually isn't. You know, one actually isn't. You know, one interesting thing about this is the interesting thing about this is the interesting thing about this is the people say to God, "Did we not prophesy people say to God, "Did we not prophesy people say to God, "Did we not prophesy in your name? Did we not cast out in your name? Did we not cast out in your name? Did we not cast out demons? Did we not do many mighty demons? Did we not do many mighty demons? Did we not do many mighty works?"

  6. works?" works?" People are saying this. Doesn't imply People are saying this. Doesn't imply People are saying this. Doesn't imply they necessarily did those things if we they necessarily did those things if we they necessarily did those things if we wanted to parse it wanted to parse it wanted to parse it I think technically. But I think you're I think technically. But I think you're I think technically. But I think you're right. The straightforward way of right. The straightforward way of right. The straightforward way of reading this is that the people actually reading this is that the people actually reading this is that the people actually did mighty works, prophesied, cast out did mighty works, prophesied, cast out did mighty works, prophesied, cast out demons, and are not saved. They're lost. demons, and are not saved. They're lost. demons, and are not saved. They're lost. That's a pretty stark warning that That's a pretty stark warning that That's a pretty stark warning that should give all of us pause. should give all of us pause. should give all of us pause. I don't think I buy the first I don't think I buy the first I don't think I buy the first interpretation about people walking away interpretation about people walking away interpretation about people walking away cuz there's nothing here that says make cuz there's nothing here that says make cuz there's nothing here that says make sure you stay firm in the faith. Don't sure you stay firm in the faith. Don't sure you stay firm in the faith. Don't walk away. That has to be imported from walk away. That has to be imported from walk away. That has to be imported from elsewhere. But how do you take this elsewhere. But how do you take this elsewhere. But how do you take this passage? passage? passage? I think it's people who give evidence, I think it's people who give evidence, I think it's people who give evidence, even impressive evidence, of being a even impressive evidence, of being a even impressive evidence, of being a true believer, being used by God, and true believer, being used by God, and true believer, being used by God, and are either are either are either convinced that God's actually doing convinced that God's actually doing convinced that God's actually doing this, but they're actually being this, but they're actually being this, but they're actually being demonically duped. demonically duped. demonically duped. >> you an example when Jesus speaks about >> you an example when Jesus speaks about >> you an example when Jesus speaks about those that give in public, you know, those that give in public, you know, those that give in public, you know, they they're big, they they show how they they're big, they they show how they they're big, they they show how much they give, and they get obviously much they give, and they get obviously much they give, and they get obviously admiration reward. And he says, you admiration reward. And he says, you admiration reward. And he says, you know, those people have already received know, those people have already received know, those people have already received their reward. They're not receiving their reward. They're not receiving their reward. They're not receiving their reward in heaven for they are their reward in heaven for they are their reward in heaven for they are already acclimation and praise from already acclimation and praise from already acclimation and praise from those people here and now. And if you those people here and now. And if you those people here and now. And if you truly trust God, if you truly believe truly trust God, if you truly believe truly trust God, if you truly believe that there is a divine being that that there is a divine being that that there is a divine being that overlooks us, that created the world, overlooks us, that created the world, overlooks us, that created the world, that is omnipresent, omnipotent, that is omnipresent, omnipotent, that is omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient omniscient omniscient you would not go to the mere flesh of you would not go to the mere flesh of you would not go to the mere flesh of human beings to prove your goodness, to

  7. human beings to prove your goodness, to human beings to prove your goodness, to act superior, to act like you're some act superior, to act like you're some act superior, to act like you're some sort of virtuous person. I think that sort of virtuous person. I think that sort of virtuous person. I think that really goes through and I think when he really goes through and I think when he really goes through and I think when he says about the demonic realm, about the says about the demonic realm, about the says about the demonic realm, about the notion that kind of people can notion that kind of people can notion that kind of people can experience good works or goodness from experience good works or goodness from experience good works or goodness from life without kind of it being from the life without kind of it being from the life without kind of it being from the good place of our Lord Jesus Christ. I good place of our Lord Jesus Christ. I good place of our Lord Jesus Christ. I think there's so much truth in that and think there's so much truth in that and think there's so much truth in that and I think you It's long and I think about I think you It's long and I think about I think you It's long and I think about being a kid and I remember there was being a kid and I remember there was being a kid and I remember there was someone I knew who was It was very someone I knew who was It was very someone I knew who was It was very stereotypically attractive bloke and a stereotypically attractive bloke and a stereotypically attractive bloke and a load of people were after him and all load of people were after him and all load of people were after him and all this and he was a really not a very good this and he was a really not a very good this and he was a really not a very good guy. I'll be completely honest. He did guy. I'll be completely honest. He did guy. I'll be completely honest. He did some very dreadful things. some very dreadful things. some very dreadful things. And I remember And I remember And I remember at certain stage in my life, I was at certain stage in my life, I was at certain stage in my life, I was almost like angry at that. I was like, almost like angry at that. I was like, almost like angry at that. I was like, "Why you know, why does he have all "Why you know, why does he have all "Why you know, why does he have all these blessings when these blessings when these blessings when he's clearly not the best bloke ever, he's clearly not the best bloke ever, he's clearly not the best bloke ever, right?" And I was in a hell of my own right?" And I was in a hell of my own right?" And I was in a hell of my own demise of resentment and anger in my demise of resentment and anger in my demise of resentment and anger in my heart, which isn't good, you know? And I heart, which isn't good, you know? And I heart, which isn't good, you know? And I You know, I should I shouldn't have been You know, I should I shouldn't have been You know, I should I shouldn't have been like that. I should have had love and like that. I should have had love and like that. I should have had love and wanted him to redeem himself, etc. But I wanted him to redeem himself, etc. But I wanted him to redeem himself, etc. But I I do think it's like when someone's very I do think it's like when someone's very I do think it's like when someone's very beautiful, they have a power about them.

  8. beautiful, they have a power about them. beautiful, they have a power about them. They can kind of get places that other They can kind of get places that other They can kind of get places that other people can't. They're treated a people can't. They're treated a people can't. They're treated a different way and they have this different way and they have this different way and they have this blessing blessing blessing and they can use it for good, they can and they can use it for good, they can and they can use it for good, they can be there for other people, they can lift be there for other people, they can lift be there for other people, they can lift people up or not focus on these people up or not focus on these people up or not focus on these ridiculous shallow things that our ridiculous shallow things that our ridiculous shallow things that our society values so much. Or they can society values so much. Or they can society values so much. Or they can embrace it and they can view it as like, embrace it and they can view it as like, embrace it and they can view it as like, "I'm better than other people." And I "I'm better than other people." And I "I'm better than other people." And I think when we're giving gifts, we can go think when we're giving gifts, we can go think when we're giving gifts, we can go two ways with gifts, you know? I have an two ways with gifts, you know? I have an two ways with gifts, you know? I have an obsessive brain where I can think about obsessive brain where I can think about obsessive brain where I can think about things in a certain way or work super things in a certain way or work super things in a certain way or work super hard in a certain way because I have hard in a certain way because I have hard in a certain way because I have this obsessive brain. I can lean on that this obsessive brain. I can lean on that this obsessive brain. I can lean on that and say, "Oh, isn't this me? I'm all and say, "Oh, isn't this me? I'm all and say, "Oh, isn't this me? I'm all this and this and this and I'm all that." But the truth is, I've I'm all that." But the truth is, I've I'm all that." But the truth is, I've been made in this certain way. I've been been made in this certain way. I've been been made in this certain way. I've been given this blessing of obsession in my given this blessing of obsession in my given this blessing of obsession in my head where I just find things so head where I just find things so head where I just find things so interesting and I go all in and just interesting and I go all in and just interesting and I go all in and just read and write and listen and read and write and listen and read and write and listen and I'm blessed with that, but some people I'm blessed with that, but some people I'm blessed with that, but some people aren't. Some people don't have any of aren't. Some people don't have any of aren't. Some people don't have any of that. that. that. And if I am for a second going to think And if I am for a second going to think And if I am for a second going to think to myself, "Oh, I'm better than that to myself, "Oh, I'm better than that to myself, "Oh, I'm better than that person cuz I'm like this." That is the person cuz I'm like this." That is the person cuz I'm like this." That is the hell that we must resist as Christians hell that we must resist as Christians hell that we must resist as Christians so much, and it's the trap that so many so much, and it's the trap that so many so much, and it's the trap that so many people fall into. May that be success, people fall into. May that be success, people fall into. May that be success, may that be power, may that be wealth.

  9. may that be power, may that be wealth. may that be power, may that be wealth. We must always always resist that with We must always always resist that with We must always always resist that with all our hearts and go to love, humility, all our hearts and go to love, humility, all our hearts and go to love, humility, and humbleness, you know it. I think and humbleness, you know it. I think and humbleness, you know it. I think that's why the start Proverbs is so so that's why the start Proverbs is so so that's why the start Proverbs is so so And I constantly reflect on it, you And I constantly reflect on it, you And I constantly reflect on it, you know, the beginning of all wisdom is know, the beginning of all wisdom is know, the beginning of all wisdom is fear of the Lord. fear of the Lord. fear of the Lord. What wisdom and truth is in that? What wisdom and truth is in that? What wisdom and truth is in that? Proverbs, you know, the book of wisdom. Proverbs, you know, the book of wisdom. Proverbs, you know, the book of wisdom. And I think you can take so much from And I think you can take so much from And I think you can take so much from that. It's so interesting what he's that. It's so interesting what he's that. It's so interesting what he's saying here about evil works cannot you saying here about evil works cannot you saying here about evil works cannot you know, people can think they're from God, know, people can think they're from God, know, people can think they're from God, but they're from a different place. but they're from a different place. but they're from a different place. And it it does kind of make you wonder And it it does kind of make you wonder And it it does kind of make you wonder like, I wonder what what there is and like, I wonder what what there is and like, I wonder what what there is and what what even is an evil work, you what what even is an evil work, you what what even is an evil work, you know? know? know? When you think to yourself like success When you think to yourself like success When you think to yourself like success or stuff like that, when people screw or stuff like that, when people screw or stuff like that, when people screw over people to get wealth, when they over people to get wealth, when they over people to get wealth, when they screw over people to get success. screw over people to get success. screw over people to get success. You know, in this world, yeah, sure, You know, in this world, yeah, sure, You know, in this world, yeah, sure, they have this admiration, they have they have this admiration, they have they have this admiration, they have this ego, they have a a lavish this ego, they have a a lavish this ego, they have a a lavish lifestyle, but you know, if we do if you lifestyle, but you know, if we do if you lifestyle, but you know, if we do if you do believe that Jesus do believe that Jesus do believe that Jesus Jesus of Nazareth was Lord, you know, Jesus of Nazareth was Lord, you know, Jesus of Nazareth was Lord, you know, this is not the end, ladies and this is not the end, ladies and this is not the end, ladies and gentlemen. This is just the beginning. gentlemen. This is just the beginning. gentlemen. This is just the beginning. This earthly realm is our mere, you This earthly realm is our mere, you This earthly realm is our mere, you know, human state. And while obviously know, human state. And while obviously know, human state. And while obviously we should do absolutely everything to be we should do absolutely everything to be we should do absolutely everything to be the best people we can and spread God's the best people we can and spread God's the best people we can and spread God's love everywhere we go, this is not the love everywhere we go, this is not the love everywhere we go, this is not the end. This is not the end. And it's it's end. This is not the end. And it's it's end. This is not the end. And it's it's kind of a liberating view that this is kind of a liberating view that this is kind of a liberating view that this is not the end. Um it really is. Um but not the end. Um it really is. Um but not the end. Um it really is. Um but yeah. Or um yeah. Or um yeah. Or um they are getting so much out of these they are getting so much out of these they are getting so much out of these evidences rather than dependence on evidences rather than dependence on evidences rather than dependence on Jesus for their identity that they're Jesus for their identity that they're Jesus for their identity that they're sort of indicating sort of indicating sort of indicating yeah, this was all about an external yeah, this was all about an external yeah, this was all about an external thing for you and not true discipleship.

  10. thing for you and not true discipleship. thing for you and not true discipleship. I think this is a a concerning passage I think this is a a concerning passage I think this is a a concerning passage about what true discipleship is. about what true discipleship is. about what true discipleship is. And what true work of God in ministry And what true work of God in ministry And what true work of God in ministry is. And is. And is. And and we really need to take this warning and we really need to take this warning and we really need to take this warning seriously. Even those who are true seriously. Even those who are true seriously. Even those who are true believers in what we see as evidence of believers in what we see as evidence of believers in what we see as evidence of a work of God. Because there can be a work of God. Because there can be a work of God. Because there can be really impressive displays of so-called really impressive displays of so-called really impressive displays of so-called success success success that are just external superficial that are just external superficial that are just external superficial evidence and not a true work of God. evidence and not a true work of God. evidence and not a true work of God. That's why I mean this is why Edwards That's why I mean this is why Edwards That's why I mean this is why Edwards wrote the Religious Affections to wrote the Religious Affections to wrote the Religious Affections to distinguish between what a true work of distinguish between what a true work of distinguish between what a true work of God is and what a potential counterfeit God is and what a potential counterfeit God is and what a potential counterfeit is. is. is. And and he basically says that that And and he basically says that that And and he basically says that that anything that could be counterfeited by anything that could be counterfeited by anything that could be counterfeited by Satan or would be counterfeited by Satan Satan or would be counterfeited by Satan Satan or would be counterfeited by Satan can't be bottom-line evidence for a true can't be bottom-line evidence for a true can't be bottom-line evidence for a true work of God. work of God. work of God. And and so he says, "Do you like And and so he says, "Do you like And and so he says, "Do you like studying and learning the Bible?" Well, studying and learning the Bible?" Well, studying and learning the Bible?" Well, who doesn't like to be educated? Do you who doesn't like to be educated? Do you who doesn't like to be educated? Do you like Christian so fellowship? Well, who like Christian so fellowship? Well, who like Christian so fellowship? Well, who doesn't like being in relationship with doesn't like being in relationship with doesn't like being in relationship with people? Do you like singing worship?

  11. people? Do you like singing worship? people? Do you like singing worship? Well, yeah, that's good for your soul. Well, yeah, that's good for your soul. Well, yeah, that's good for your soul. None of those things can be seen as None of those things can be seen as None of those things can be seen as evidence. Even best-selling books or evidence. Even best-selling books or evidence. Even best-selling books or lots of people coming to your church or lots of people coming to your church or lots of people coming to your church or impressive numbers on a podcast are not impressive numbers on a podcast are not impressive numbers on a podcast are not necessarily at all. necessarily at all. necessarily at all. >> Darn it. >> Darn it. >> Darn it. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> I know I I mean I'll would even I'll be >> I know I I mean I'll would even I'll be >> I know I I mean I'll would even I'll be completely honest. When I have a video completely honest. When I have a video completely honest. When I have a video that I power and I've just started this that I power and I've just started this that I power and I've just started this channel and it does well, part of me is channel and it does well, part of me is channel and it does well, part of me is like, "Oh yeah, yeah, still no no no." like, "Oh yeah, yeah, still no no no." like, "Oh yeah, yeah, still no no no." And I'm And I'm And I'm creeping into the slave of chasing creeping into the slave of chasing creeping into the slave of chasing numbers of you know, following what not numbers of you know, following what not numbers of you know, following what not could be best for people, what not could could be best for people, what not could could be best for people, what not could bring the most hope, the most wisdom, bring the most hope, the most wisdom, bring the most hope, the most wisdom, the most life, the feeling like they the most life, the feeling like they the most life, the feeling like they heard, that they're not alone in the heard, that they're not alone in the heard, that they're not alone in the world, that you know, I care about them world, that you know, I care about them world, that you know, I care about them and sharing what I know, which isn't and sharing what I know, which isn't and sharing what I know, which isn't much, but I think some things I do have much, but I think some things I do have much, but I think some things I do have that are quite interesting, right? And I that are quite interesting, right? And I that are quite interesting, right? And I can chase numbers, I can chase the stat can chase numbers, I can chase the stat can chase numbers, I can chase the stat and that'll give me superficial joy and that'll give me superficial joy and that'll give me superficial joy and that could lure me into the and that could lure me into the and that could lure me into the manipulation of thinking, "Well, God manipulation of thinking, "Well, God manipulation of thinking, "Well, God clearly wants me to do this cuz I'm clearly wants me to do this cuz I'm clearly wants me to do this cuz I'm doing well in the but that is not from a doing well in the but that is not from a doing well in the but that is not from a place of love. That is not from a place of love. That is not from a place of love. That is not from a genuine genuine genuine place of wanting people to know God, place of wanting people to know God, place of wanting people to know God, know Jesus. And this is why on this know Jesus. And this is why on this know Jesus. And this is why on this channel I do so much content for channel I do so much content for channel I do so much content for anything from speaking about sadness to anything from speaking about sadness to anything from speaking about sadness to speaking about some random bloke in the speaking about some random bloke in the speaking about some random bloke in the UK political system who's said something UK political system who's said something UK political system who's said something that I think goes completely against that I think goes completely against that I think goes completely against Jesus and is using his name to push some Jesus and is using his name to push some Jesus and is using his name to push some nonsense. Anything from that to a nonsense. Anything from that to a nonsense. Anything from that to a Christian apologist to a debate to an Christian apologist to a debate to an Christian apologist to a debate to an atheist to because I want just to atheist to because I want just to atheist to because I want just to basically put everything in my heart

  12. basically put everything in my heart basically put everything in my heart into the ether and if it goes well, it into the ether and if it goes well, it into the ether and if it goes well, it goes well and I would be thrilled that I goes well and I would be thrilled that I goes well and I would be thrilled that I could do this full-time or something. I could do this full-time or something. I could do this full-time or something. I would have been ecstatically happy, would have been ecstatically happy, would have been ecstatically happy, right? But there's a chance it won't right? But there's a chance it won't right? But there's a chance it won't happen. There's a chance I I can make happen. There's a chance I I can make happen. There's a chance I I can make these videos for next 5 years, right? these videos for next 5 years, right? these videos for next 5 years, right? Every day and it doesn't blow up. I Every day and it doesn't blow up. I Every day and it doesn't blow up. I don't make any money. Actually, I lose don't make any money. Actually, I lose don't make any money. Actually, I lose money doing this cuz I could be doing money doing this cuz I could be doing money doing this cuz I could be doing other work. I could but I'm speaking other work. I could but I'm speaking other work. I could but I'm speaking from my heart. I'm chucking out there from my heart. I'm chucking out there from my heart. I'm chucking out there and I'm hoping that and I'm hoping that and I'm hoping that hopefully I can make an audience. hopefully I can make an audience. hopefully I can make an audience. Hopefully I can have an impact. Hopefully I can have an impact. Hopefully I can have an impact. Hopefully I can make a movement. I can Hopefully I can make a movement. I can Hopefully I can make a movement. I can start a community. I can do a start a community. I can do a start a community. I can do a I'm hoping that, right? But the but I'm hoping that, right? But the but I'm hoping that, right? But the but there is a chance it won't happen and I there is a chance it won't happen and I there is a chance it won't happen and I must just do it from my heart, not from must just do it from my heart, not from must just do it from my heart, not from the want of success cuz I I'll tell you the want of success cuz I I'll tell you the want of success cuz I I'll tell you what, I there's some videos I've done, what, I there's some videos I've done, what, I there's some videos I've done, right? That popped off which I could right? That popped off which I could right? That popped off which I could just do more and more of and I thought just do more and more of and I thought just do more and more of and I thought about it in my head. I was like, I could about it in my head. I was like, I could about it in my head. I was like, I could just do more and more of these videos. just do more and more of these videos. just do more and more of these videos. They'll grow and grow and grow and then They'll grow and grow and grow and then They'll grow and grow and grow and then but again, I don't want to fall into the but again, I don't want to fall into the but again, I don't want to fall into the trap of being a slave to this world in trap of being a slave to this world in trap of being a slave to this world in that sense. And I'm not some virtuous that sense. And I'm not some virtuous that sense. And I'm not some virtuous person here because I have done that on person here because I have done that on person here because I have done that on my YouTube channels before. I've had my YouTube channels before. I've had my YouTube channels before. I've had past channels where I've done that. I've past channels where I've done that. I've past channels where I've done that. I've started making money. But in the long started making money. But in the long started making money. But in the long run, you it doesn't sustain. It doesn't run, you it doesn't sustain. It doesn't run, you it doesn't sustain. It doesn't fulfill you even if you do get money.

  13. fulfill you even if you do get money. fulfill you even if you do get money. Even so, that's why on this channel it's Even so, that's why on this channel it's Even so, that's why on this channel it's open favor. I just want to speak into open favor. I just want to speak into open favor. I just want to speak into the ether what's in my heart, what's in the ether what's in my heart, what's in the ether what's in my heart, what's in my head that some people around the my head that some people around the my head that some people around the world listening to this can feel heard, world listening to this can feel heard, world listening to this can feel heard, can feel seen, can see knowledge nuggets can feel seen, can see knowledge nuggets can feel seen, can see knowledge nuggets of wisdom or or bits of knowledge from of wisdom or or bits of knowledge from of wisdom or or bits of knowledge from incredible people like Shawn McDowell incredible people like Shawn McDowell incredible people like Shawn McDowell and hopefully maybe I can help you a and hopefully maybe I can help you a and hopefully maybe I can help you a little bit in maybe when you're feeling little bit in maybe when you're feeling little bit in maybe when you're feeling low or low or low or and that's that's that's what I really and that's that's that's what I really and that's that's that's what I really want to focus on. I just want to say we want to focus on. I just want to say we want to focus on. I just want to say we all fall into the trap of that. I all fall into the trap of that. I all fall into the trap of that. I certainly do. So if you're one of these certainly do. So if you're one of these certainly do. So if you're one of these people watching who feel like you fall people watching who feel like you fall people watching who feel like you fall into the trap, do not think that you're into the trap, do not think that you're into the trap, do not think that you're somehow different and you're evil or any somehow different and you're evil or any somehow different and you're evil or any of this nonsense cuz you're not. Right, of this nonsense cuz you're not. Right, of this nonsense cuz you're not. Right, we're all humans and we all do fall into we're all humans and we all do fall into we're all humans and we all do fall into these traps and I for one fall into these traps and I for one fall into these traps and I for one fall into traps of egotism, of vanity, of don't traps of egotism, of vanity, of don't traps of egotism, of vanity, of don't like I am no by means not even close to like I am no by means not even close to like I am no by means not even close to perfect, you know. So do not think for a perfect, you know. So do not think for a perfect, you know. So do not think for a second if you're watching this like second if you're watching this like second if you're watching this like somehow you'll be the person Jesus said, somehow you'll be the person Jesus said, somehow you'll be the person Jesus said, "I never knew you." "I never knew you." "I never knew you." Um you know, it's it's like Lewis speaks Um you know, it's it's like Lewis speaks Um you know, it's it's like Lewis speaks about, you know, how do you know, you about, you know, how do you know, you about, you know, how do you know, you know, if evil being like the wind, you know, if evil being like the wind, you know, if evil being like the wind, you know, if you're walking and walking with know, if you're walking and walking with know, if you're walking and walking with the wind, you don't feel but if you go the wind, you don't feel but if you go the wind, you don't feel but if you go against it, you feel the full wrath of against it, you feel the full wrath of against it, you feel the full wrath of the wind. I think evil is very much like the wind. I think evil is very much like the wind. I think evil is very much like that, you know, if you are aware of your that, you know, if you are aware of your that, you know, if you are aware of your own flaws, your own faults, you know, own flaws, your own faults, you know, own flaws, your own faults, you know, don't dwell in that but do think don't dwell in that but do think don't dwell in that but do think yourself, it's good that I know that.

  14. yourself, it's good that I know that. yourself, it's good that I know that. I'm not in blissful ignorance. I'm not I'm not in blissful ignorance. I'm not I'm not in blissful ignorance. I'm not dumb in myself down. I'm not I'm not dumb in myself down. I'm not I'm not dumb in myself down. I'm not I'm not saying I don't want to know that. I saying I don't want to know that. I saying I don't want to know that. I don't you know, don't want to improve. don't you know, don't want to improve. don't you know, don't want to improve. No, you are aware and that is the heart No, you are aware and that is the heart No, you are aware and that is the heart of so much of what I think to be a good of so much of what I think to be a good of so much of what I think to be a good person you have to be aware of your person you have to be aware of your person you have to be aware of your flaws. You have to be aware of your flaws. You have to be aware of your flaws. You have to be aware of your faults. Um and bless you if you're one faults. Um and bless you if you're one faults. Um and bless you if you're one of those people watching this. But yeah, of those people watching this. But yeah, of those people watching this. But yeah, sorry, complete random but let's go on. sorry, complete random but let's go on. sorry, complete random but let's go on. >> Evidence that it's a true work of God. >> Evidence that it's a true work of God. >> Evidence that it's a true work of God. What Edwards ends up saying is a deep What Edwards ends up saying is a deep What Edwards ends up saying is a deep and abiding affection for the beauty of and abiding affection for the beauty of and abiding affection for the beauty of God's perfections at the core of God's perfections at the core of God's perfections at the core of everything everything everything is the true work of God that Satan would is the true work of God that Satan would is the true work of God that Satan would never counterfeit and never could never counterfeit and never could never counterfeit and never could counterfeit. It doesn't mean those counterfeit. It doesn't mean those counterfeit. It doesn't mean those things are necessarily wrong or things are necessarily wrong or things are necessarily wrong or counterfeit but they can't be seen as counterfeit but they can't be seen as counterfeit but they can't be seen as the true evidence of a work of God. Wow, the true evidence of a work of God. Wow, the true evidence of a work of God. Wow, what incredible wisdom here by Sean what incredible wisdom here by Sean what incredible wisdom here by Sean McDowell and this incredible theologian McDowell and this incredible theologian McDowell and this incredible theologian that I can't remember this off my head that I can't remember this off my head that I can't remember this off my head but I will link below. Do watch the full but I will link below. Do watch the full but I will link below. Do watch the full episode link below and I I love all of episode link below and I I love all of episode link below and I I love all of you. Thanks so much for watching. I hope you. Thanks so much for watching. I hope you. Thanks so much for watching. I hope you can take some wisdom from this and you can take some wisdom from this and you can take some wisdom from this and just remember, you know, Jesus is love. just remember, you know, Jesus is love. just remember, you know, Jesus is love. God is love. Do hold on to that if you God is love. Do hold on to that if you God is love. Do hold on to that if you are a bit spooked from this, but um are a bit spooked from this, but um are a bit spooked from this, but um yeah, God bless. Be doing more like yeah, God bless. Be doing more like yeah, God bless. Be doing more like these, and I'll see you on next one these, and I'll see you on next one these, and I'll see you on next one tomorrow at 7:00. Peace.

Summary

The main theme is the critical distinction between professing faith in Jesus and actively doing the will of God, referencing Jesus' warning in Matthew 7:21-23 about those who say "Lord, Lord" but are not known by Him. The takeaway is that true discipleship involves genuine obedience and a relationship with God, not just outward displays of spiritual activity.

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