Did Jesus Ever Get Anything WRONG?

So, did Jesus make mistakes or get So, did Jesus make mistakes or get things wrong? This incredible historian things wrong? This incredible historian things wrong? This incredible historian is going to explain that in this video. is going to explain that in this video. is going to explain that in this video. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. >> Humans learn best by making mistakes as >> Humans learn best by making mistakes as >> Humans learn best by making mistakes as mistakes or error and sin overlap. This mistakes or error and sin overlap. This mistakes or error and sin overlap. This seems quite mysterious to me. What is seems quite mysterious to me. What is seems quite mysterious to me. What is meant when it says that Jesus learned meant when it says that Jesus learned meant when it says that Jesus learned obedience by suffering? Uh now if I obedience by suffering? Uh now if I obedience by suffering? Uh now if I understand Salomi's question right, I understand Salomi's question right, I understand Salomi's question right, I mean learning requires making mistakes. mean learning requires making mistakes. mean learning requires making mistakes. Obedience means you've gone through Obedience means you've gone through Obedience means you've gone through trial and error to reach a point of trial and error to reach a point of trial and error to reach a point of obedience. Did Jesus make mistakes? And obedience. Did Jesus make mistakes? And obedience. Did Jesus make mistakes? And Tom, I've got a very good test case Tom, I've got a very good test case Tom, I've got a very good test case here. A very good test case. um the here. A very good test case. um the here. A very good test case. um the story of the cyro phoenician woman you story of the cyro phoenician woman you story of the cyro phoenician woman you know Mark 7 parallel version in in know Mark 7 parallel version in in know Mark 7 parallel version in in Matthew 15 about the Canaanite woman and Matthew 15 about the Canaanite woman and Matthew 15 about the Canaanite woman and where she says look you know please heal where she says look you know please heal where she says look you know please heal my daughter and Jesus says you it's not my daughter and Jesus says you it's not my daughter and Jesus says you it's not right to give the food of children and right to give the food of children and right to give the food of children and throw it to the dogs and she says ah yes throw it to the dogs and she says ah yes throw it to the dogs and she says ah yes but even the the dogs eat the crumbs but even the the dogs eat the crumbs but even the the dogs eat the crumbs that fall for the from the children's that fall for the from the children's that fall for the from the children's table and a lot of people interpret that table and a lot of people interpret that table and a lot of people interpret that as if that sorrow Phoenician woman uh as if that sorrow Phoenician woman uh as if that sorrow Phoenician woman uh enables Jesus to overcome come his enables Jesus to overcome come his enables Jesus to overcome come his ethnosentrism or even his racism or his ethnosentrism or even his racism or his ethnosentrism or even his racism or his ethnic prejudice.

ethnic prejudice. ethnic prejudice. >> Yeah. Well, let's go straight to that >> Yeah. Well, let's go straight to that >> Yeah. Well, let's go straight to that passage in Hebrews because it's it's passage in Hebrews because it's it's passage in Hebrews because it's it's really important. Hebrews chapter 5 um really important. Hebrews chapter 5 um really important. Hebrews chapter 5 um verse 8. Even though he was son, son of verse 8. Even though he was son, son of verse 8. Even though he was son, son of God, he learned obedience through the God, he learned obedience through the God, he learned obedience through the things which he suffered. Now, I was things which he suffered. Now, I was things which he suffered. Now, I was looking at that verse in in in the Greek looking at that verse in in in the Greek looking at that verse in in in the Greek and I realized, I'm not sure I'd and I realized, I'm not sure I'd and I realized, I'm not sure I'd realized this before. It's almost got a realized this before. It's almost got a realized this before. It's almost got a poetic feel to it. He learned poetic feel to it. He learned poetic feel to it. He learned >> through through his suffering is >> through through his suffering is >> through through his suffering is emaththen aon epithen and then obedience emaththen aon epithen and then obedience emaththen aon epithen and then obedience chain hupoen. So emnan aon epthen it's chain hupoen. So emnan aon epthen it's chain hupoen. So emnan aon epthen it's almost as though that's one of these almost as though that's one of these almost as though that's one of these little quizzical ways of putting little quizzical ways of putting little quizzical ways of putting something. He's he suffered and so he something. He's he suffered and so he something. He's he suffered and so he learned and what he learned was what learned and what he learned was what learned and what he learned was what obedience really means in practice. And obedience really means in practice. And obedience really means in practice. And the context is very clear. It's a the context is very clear. It's a the context is very clear. It's a reference to the episode in the garden reference to the episode in the garden reference to the episode in the garden of Gethsemane in Matthew 26 and the of Gethsemane in Matthew 26 and the of Gethsemane in Matthew 26 and the parallels because it says in the days of parallels because it says in the days of parallels because it says in the days of his flesh um Jesus offered up um prayers his flesh um Jesus offered up um prayers his flesh um Jesus offered up um prayers to God with loud crying and tears to the to God with loud crying and tears to the to God with loud crying and tears to the one who was able to save him from death one who was able to save him from death one who was able to save him from death um and and even though um he he was um and and even though um he he was um and and even though um he he was heard for his piety but he had to learn heard for his piety but he had to learn heard for his piety but he had to learn what obedience meant. So it's it's what obedience meant. So it's it's what obedience meant. So it's it's fascinating because in the episode which fascinating because in the episode which fascinating because in the episode which is being referred to in Matthew 26 the is being referred to in Matthew 26 the is being referred to in Matthew 26 the the Gethsemane episode Jesus says in the Gethsemane episode Jesus says in the Gethsemane episode Jesus says in effect please isn't there another way effect please isn't there another way effect please isn't there another way and the answer is no there isn't another and the answer is no there isn't another and the answer is no there isn't another way and actually you do know that um and

way and actually you do know that um and way and actually you do know that um and so Jesus says thy will be done so Jesus says thy will be done so Jesus says thy will be done but um uh that's not that he wasn't but um uh that's not that he wasn't but um uh that's not that he wasn't heard he was heard but he had to heard he was heard but he had to heard he was heard but he had to discover verb what obedience really discover verb what obedience really discover verb what obedience really meant. meant. meant. >> So this is such a fascinating point >> So this is such a fascinating point >> So this is such a fascinating point because it's the point that basically because it's the point that basically because it's the point that basically when Jesus was a kid and growing up did when Jesus was a kid and growing up did when Jesus was a kid and growing up did he know everything right from the he know everything right from the he know everything right from the beginning in the sense that for inance I beginning in the sense that for inance I beginning in the sense that for inance I always think to myself did Jesus when he always think to myself did Jesus when he always think to myself did Jesus when he grew up as he read the Torah did he know grew up as he read the Torah did he know grew up as he read the Torah did he know that the person they were speaking about that the person they were speaking about that the person they were speaking about who was to come was him? Did he know who was to come was him? Did he know who was to come was him? Did he know that or did he learn it? And if he did that or did he learn it? And if he did that or did he learn it? And if he did learn it at what point did he find that learn it at what point did he find that learn it at what point did he find that out? Now, if if you have some clues, out? Now, if if you have some clues, out? Now, if if you have some clues, that leave in the comments. It's that leave in the comments. It's that leave in the comments. It's something I'm kind of researching and something I'm kind of researching and something I'm kind of researching and listening to different commentaries on, listening to different commentaries on, listening to different commentaries on, but it's such an interesting but it's such an interesting but it's such an interesting perspective. When did Jesus know these perspective. When did Jesus know these perspective. When did Jesus know these things? When did he learn these things? things? When did he learn these things? things? When did he learn these things? When did Jesus know who's God, for When did Jesus know who's God, for When did Jesus know who's God, for instance? There's just an endless instance? There's just an endless instance? There's just an endless plethora of questions. Um, and this plethora of questions. Um, and this plethora of questions. Um, and this issue of when Jesus speaks to this woman issue of when Jesus speaks to this woman issue of when Jesus speaks to this woman that breaks the racist divide between that breaks the racist divide between that breaks the racist divide between Jews, what he says here does in many Jews, what he says here does in many Jews, what he says here does in many contexts show that Jesus learned contexts show that Jesus learned contexts show that Jesus learned something or he changed his mind because something or he changed his mind because something or he changed his mind because of how he spoke or was he trying to get of how he spoke or was he trying to get of how he spoke or was he trying to get something out of her. Was he trying to something out of her. Was he trying to something out of her. Was he trying to exhort an opinion, something different exhort an opinion, something different exhort an opinion, something different so we can so we he wants to show to the so we can so we he wants to show to the so we can so we he wants to show to the other Jews that we can learn from people other Jews that we can learn from people other Jews that we can learn from people like her? Maybe he's saying that. But like her? Maybe he's saying that. But like her? Maybe he's saying that. But yeah, we'll see what the amazing yeah, we'll see what the amazing yeah, we'll see what the amazing historian Entie Wright has to say here.

historian Entie Wright has to say here. historian Entie Wright has to say here. >> In practice, I think that's what that >> In practice, I think that's what that >> In practice, I think that's what that passage in in Hebrews is all about. And passage in in Hebrews is all about. And passage in in Hebrews is all about. And actually, you having quoted my old actually, you having quoted my old actually, you having quoted my old teacher George Ked, I remember in his teacher George Ked, I remember in his teacher George Ked, I remember in his lectures on Hebrews, he says much the lectures on Hebrews, he says much the lectures on Hebrews, he says much the same thing. Um same thing. Um same thing. Um with trial and error, though. There's no with trial and error, though. There's no with trial and error, though. There's no kind of trial and error, learning from kind of trial and error, learning from kind of trial and error, learning from your mistakes. It's not really what's your mistakes. It's not really what's your mistakes. It's not really what's going on. going on. going on. >> I understand that line about we learn >> I understand that line about we learn >> I understand that line about we learn through our mistakes. And the answer is, through our mistakes. And the answer is, through our mistakes. And the answer is, well, we we do and we don't. um that well, we we do and we don't. um that well, we we do and we don't. um that that that's a bit glib sometimes um that that that's a bit glib sometimes um that that that's a bit glib sometimes um that yeah if you're doing an if you're yeah if you're doing an if you're yeah if you're doing an if you're learning a new language when you make a learning a new language when you make a learning a new language when you make a mistake and the teacher explains to you mistake and the teacher explains to you mistake and the teacher explains to you why that's a mistake you really do learn why that's a mistake you really do learn why that's a mistake you really do learn it then um there's all sorts of things it then um there's all sorts of things it then um there's all sorts of things in life which are like that but you know in life which are like that but you know in life which are like that but you know when I learned to drive fortunately I when I learned to drive fortunately I when I learned to drive fortunately I didn't learn by crashing into a lot of didn't learn by crashing into a lot of didn't learn by crashing into a lot of other cars coming the other way on the other cars coming the other way on the other cars coming the other way on the motorway um I actually learned the safer motorway um I actually learned the safer motorway um I actually learned the safer way um although no doubt as a young way um although no doubt as a young way um although no doubt as a young driver. I was a bit of a liability driver. I was a bit of a liability driver. I was a bit of a liability sometimes. But but so that there are sometimes. But but so that there are sometimes. But but so that there are there there's learning by mistakes and there there's learning by mistakes and there there's learning by mistakes and learning by mistakes. Um and I I don't learning by mistakes. Um and I I don't learning by mistakes. Um and I I don't think Jesus um I mean think Jesus um I mean think Jesus um I mean in Gethsemane when he says um isn't in Gethsemane when he says um isn't in Gethsemane when he says um isn't there another way? And then on the cross there another way? And then on the cross there another way? And then on the cross when he says my God, why did you abandon when he says my God, why did you abandon when he says my God, why did you abandon me? Had God abandoned him? I mean me? Had God abandoned him? I mean me? Had God abandoned him? I mean generations of people preaching on that generations of people preaching on that generations of people preaching on that passage have said God had not abandoned passage have said God had not abandoned passage have said God had not abandoned him. It was just that the dark cloud of him. It was just that the dark cloud of him. It was just that the dark cloud of human sin and and all the rest of it had human sin and and all the rest of it had human sin and and all the rest of it had come between him and God and it felt as come between him and God and it felt as come between him and God and it felt as though he was abandoned and so he

though he was abandoned and so he though he was abandoned and so he reached for Psalm 22 which which is a reached for Psalm 22 which which is a reached for Psalm 22 which which is a prayer out of that. Now I I think we prayer out of that. Now I I think we prayer out of that. Now I I think we need to be careful before simply saying need to be careful before simply saying need to be careful before simply saying well Jesus got it wrong. Although I do well Jesus got it wrong. Although I do well Jesus got it wrong. Although I do want to say that Jesus was as aware as want to say that Jesus was as aware as want to say that Jesus was as aware as anyone else in first century Judea that anyone else in first century Judea that anyone else in first century Judea that it is failed messiahs who end up on it is failed messiahs who end up on it is failed messiahs who end up on crosses. And so if you think that you're crosses. And so if you think that you're crosses. And so if you think that you're God's Messiah and you end up on a cross, God's Messiah and you end up on a cross, God's Messiah and you end up on a cross, well join the club. There are lots of well join the club. There are lots of well join the club. There are lots of others. others. others. >> Crazy thing to think about. Did Jesus >> Crazy thing to think about. Did Jesus >> Crazy thing to think about. Did Jesus when he was on the cross, did he ever when he was on the cross, did he ever when he was on the cross, did he ever wonder to himself, am I just another wonder to himself, am I just another wonder to himself, am I just another person who has claimed this? Now you person who has claimed this? Now you person who has claimed this? Now you could say no. He's omnipotent. He's could say no. He's omnipotent. He's could say no. He's omnipotent. He's omnisient. He's um omnipresent and he omnisient. He's um omnipresent and he omnisient. He's um omnipresent and he was fully human, fully God. So, did he was fully human, fully God. So, did he was fully human, fully God. So, did he know? And it's it's something that I know? And it's it's something that I know? And it's it's something that I struggle with so much in the sense of struggle with so much in the sense of struggle with so much in the sense of did how much did Jesus know he was God? did how much did Jesus know he was God? did how much did Jesus know he was God? And then there's these certain points And then there's these certain points And then there's these certain points where he gets asked, "Are you God?" And where he gets asked, "Are you God?" And where he gets asked, "Are you God?" And he he gives an answer or when he, you he he gives an answer or when he, you he he gives an answer or when he, you know, heals Lazarus or he prays like know, heals Lazarus or he prays like know, heals Lazarus or he prays like there's multiple times when he prays, there's multiple times when he prays, there's multiple times when he prays, but if he's God, then why would he pray but if he's God, then why would he pray but if he's God, then why would he pray to himself? But then people say, well, to himself? But then people say, well, to himself? But then people say, well, obviously that's the trinit trinitarian obviously that's the trinit trinitarian obviously that's the trinit trinitarian view of it. And it's it is a very view of it. And it's it is a very view of it. And it's it is a very interesting point. And there's also the interesting point. And there's also the interesting point. And there's also the point an interesting commentary which point an interesting commentary which point an interesting commentary which I've heard before which is speaks about I've heard before which is speaks about I've heard before which is speaks about how if Jesus wasn't to pray, he would how if Jesus wasn't to pray, he would how if Jesus wasn't to pray, he would then be by nature, especially in that then be by nature, especially in that then be by nature, especially in that Jewish context. Would he been been a Jewish context. Would he been been a Jewish context. Would he been been a Jew? Would would Jesus have been an Jew? Would would Jesus have been an Jew? Would would Jesus have been an atheist and been God? Like in a sense atheist and been God? Like in a sense atheist and been God? Like in a sense like he had to act as a human in some

like he had to act as a human in some like he had to act as a human in some form. So him praying does proclaim that. form. So him praying does proclaim that. form. So him praying does proclaim that. But yeah, it's it's a very interesting But yeah, it's it's a very interesting But yeah, it's it's a very interesting it's a super fascinating point. But it's a super fascinating point. But it's a super fascinating point. But we'll see what else he said we'll see what else he said we'll see what else he said >> the same face. So I think to find >> the same face. So I think to find >> the same face. So I think to find himself being challenged at that deep himself being challenged at that deep himself being challenged at that deep level to to to question to doubt. It's level to to to question to doubt. It's level to to to question to doubt. It's not to sin. It's not in that sense to not to sin. It's not in that sense to not to sin. It's not in that sense to make a mistake. It's it's to say have I make a mistake. It's it's to say have I make a mistake. It's it's to say have I made a mistake? Was I barking up the made a mistake? Was I barking up the made a mistake? Was I barking up the wrong tree all the time? um which is a wrong tree all the time? um which is a wrong tree all the time? um which is a different thing I think from saying um different thing I think from saying um different thing I think from saying um no I've just been getting it wrong. Um no I've just been getting it wrong. Um no I've just been getting it wrong. Um so when you go back to the Sarapheneian so when you go back to the Sarapheneian so when you go back to the Sarapheneian woman I I'm I'm very much of of a mind woman I I'm I'm very much of of a mind woman I I'm I'm very much of of a mind with George K there that I think it it with George K there that I think it it with George K there that I think it it all depends how you say it because after all depends how you say it because after all depends how you say it because after all we have several other stories in the all we have several other stories in the all we have several other stories in the gospels. Um think of the the the gospels. Um think of the the the gospels. Um think of the the the Samaritan woman in John 4 for instance. Samaritan woman in John 4 for instance. Samaritan woman in John 4 for instance. Um uh and and Jesus says, "Well, give me Um uh and and Jesus says, "Well, give me Um uh and and Jesus says, "Well, give me a drink." And now if if you knew who was a drink." And now if if you knew who was a drink." And now if if you knew who was talking to you, you you'd be asking me talking to you, you you'd be asking me talking to you, you you'd be asking me for a drink. Um so he's he's clearly not for a drink. Um so he's he's clearly not for a drink. Um so he's he's clearly not in a position to say, "No, no, no, in a position to say, "No, no, no, in a position to say, "No, no, no, you're an outsider. We're not having you're an outsider. We're not having you're an outsider. We're not having that um anything like that." And and that um anything like that." And and that um anything like that." And and after all, um we've got the parable of after all, um we've got the parable of after all, um we've got the parable of the good Samaritan and lots of other the good Samaritan and lots of other the good Samaritan and lots of other stories in the Gospels which show a very stories in the Gospels which show a very stories in the Gospels which show a very different attitude to what's there on different attitude to what's there on different attitude to what's there on the surface of the text in Mark 7, which the surface of the text in Mark 7, which the surface of the text in Mark 7, which is Jesus just saying, "No, we don't want is Jesus just saying, "No, we don't want is Jesus just saying, "No, we don't want any of you pagans. Thank you very much."

any of you pagans. Thank you very much." any of you pagans. Thank you very much." Um so I think I think the question then Um so I think I think the question then Um so I think I think the question then is how you read the text. And I mean how is how you read the text. And I mean how is how you read the text. And I mean how you read it um as you say whether you've you read it um as you say whether you've you read it um as you say whether you've got a smile on your face and a smile in got a smile on your face and a smile in got a smile on your face and a smile in your voice as well that I think there's your voice as well that I think there's your voice as well that I think there's many passages where Jesus teases people many passages where Jesus teases people many passages where Jesus teases people and probing them pushing them. Can you and probing them pushing them. Can you and probing them pushing them. Can you not actually um see penetrate the not actually um see penetrate the not actually um see penetrate the disguise see what's going on here? And I disguise see what's going on here? And I disguise see what's going on here? And I think this may be one such but but so I think this may be one such but but so I think this may be one such but but so I would beware of simply saying we learned would beware of simply saying we learned would beware of simply saying we learned through our mistakes. Therefore if Jesus through our mistakes. Therefore if Jesus through our mistakes. Therefore if Jesus learned anything obviously it was learned anything obviously it was learned anything obviously it was because he made mistakes. Well, no, because he made mistakes. Well, no, because he made mistakes. Well, no, that's a bit that's a bit too clear. that's a bit that's a bit too clear. that's a bit that's a bit too clear. >> So, what a fantastic interpretation of >> So, what a fantastic interpretation of >> So, what a fantastic interpretation of that scripture. And in many ways, it's that scripture. And in many ways, it's that scripture. And in many ways, it's also how you describe a mistake and what also how you describe a mistake and what also how you describe a mistake and what is a mistake not to get too postmodern, is a mistake not to get too postmodern, is a mistake not to get too postmodern, too semantic. But this is an interesting too semantic. But this is an interesting too semantic. But this is an interesting commentary I think. So, the Canaanite commentary I think. So, the Canaanite commentary I think. So, the Canaanite woman humbled herself before the Lord woman humbled herself before the Lord woman humbled herself before the Lord said St. Theresa of Avelia and she said St. Theresa of Avelia and she said St. Theresa of Avelia and she writes that humility cannot exist writes that humility cannot exist writes that humility cannot exist without love and love cannot exist without love and love cannot exist without love and love cannot exist without humility. So this is this is without humility. So this is this is without humility. So this is this is quite a radical thing in the sense where quite a radical thing in the sense where quite a radical thing in the sense where he where she's saying that basically he where she's saying that basically he where she's saying that basically Jesus humbleness and humility even Jesus Jesus humbleness and humility even Jesus Jesus humbleness and humility even Jesus the man who walked around who was fully the man who walked around who was fully the man who walked around who was fully human fully God truly did love you know human fully God truly did love you know human fully God truly did love you know he laid his life down but not only that he laid his life down but not only that he laid his life down but not only that he made himself humble and she's saying he made himself humble and she's saying he made himself humble and she's saying that you know they can't exist without that you know they can't exist without that you know they can't exist without each other and I mean this is quite a each other and I mean this is quite a each other and I mean this is quite a radical view and it's it is a really radical view and it's it is a really radical view and it's it is a really interesting subject I definitely do more interesting subject I definitely do more interesting subject I definitely do more on this but the woman's love for God and on this but the woman's love for God and on this but the woman's love for God and her thought is evident in how she was

her thought is evident in how she was her thought is evident in how she was willing to be mortified. So in the sense willing to be mortified. So in the sense willing to be mortified. So in the sense that when you you know as CS Lewis that when you you know as CS Lewis that when you you know as CS Lewis famously says you know to love is to be famously says you know to love is to be famously says you know to love is to be vulnerable when you really show that vulnerable when you really show that vulnerable when you really show that vulnerability that is when you are vulnerability that is when you are vulnerability that is when you are loving when you have something to risk loving when you have something to risk loving when you have something to risk when you have you know embarrassment on when you have you know embarrassment on when you have you know embarrassment on the line it's like when you love someone the line it's like when you love someone the line it's like when you love someone you know you're willing you're giving you know you're willing you're giving you know you're willing you're giving them a piece of you a power of you the them a piece of you a power of you the them a piece of you a power of you the the part of you you want no one to see the part of you you want no one to see the part of you you want no one to see but the whole world and when you give but the whole world and when you give but the whole world and when you give them that they might destroy they might them that they might destroy they might them that they might destroy they might laugh in your face they might not then laugh in your face they might not then laugh in your face they might not then love you and view you as a bad person or love you and view you as a bad person or love you and view you as a bad person or this or that or they might love you even this or that or they might love you even this or that or they might love you even more and you share that intimacy that more and you share that intimacy that more and you share that intimacy that vulnerability ility with each other as vulnerability ility with each other as vulnerability ility with each other as she so eloquently puts here. So her she so eloquently puts here. So her she so eloquently puts here. So her answer even the dogs eat the crumbs that answer even the dogs eat the crumbs that answer even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from the master's table exemplifies fall from the master's table exemplifies fall from the master's table exemplifies her faith and love for God. She knew her faith and love for God. She knew her faith and love for God. She knew that he is the only one who could help that he is the only one who could help that he is the only one who could help her. She knew that she had the right to her. She knew that she had the right to her. She knew that she had the right to chasen her. The chess sorry I'm so chasen her. The chess sorry I'm so chasen her. The chess sorry I'm so dyslexic. But this knowledge made her dyslexic. But this knowledge made her dyslexic. But this knowledge made her epit epitime I don't of faith. I don't epit epitime I don't of faith. I don't epit epitime I don't of faith. I don't even know what that means. Jesus paid even know what that means. Jesus paid even know what that means. Jesus paid her for a huge compliment. Woman, great her for a huge compliment. Woman, great her for a huge compliment. Woman, great is your faith. Let it be done to you as is your faith. Let it be done to you as is your faith. Let it be done to you as you wish. In Matthew, what great you wish. In Matthew, what great you wish. In Matthew, what great privilege when the Lord praises her privilege when the Lord praises her privilege when the Lord praises her faith. The Canaanite woman impressed faith. The Canaanite woman impressed faith. The Canaanite woman impressed Jesus with her faith, humility, Jesus with her faith, humility, Jesus with her faith, humility, perseverance in prayer, and love for her perseverance in prayer, and love for her perseverance in prayer, and love for her daughter. Through this discourse with daughter. Through this discourse with daughter. Through this discourse with the Canaanite woman, Jesus draws out her the Canaanite woman, Jesus draws out her the Canaanite woman, Jesus draws out her qualities that which qualified to be his qualities that which qualified to be his qualities that which qualified to be his disciple who teaches as apostle and disciple who teaches as apostle and disciple who teaches as apostle and future leaders of the church who around future leaders of the church who around future leaders of the church who around him of that faith which transcends him of that faith which transcends him of that faith which transcends boundaries of gender, nationality, and boundaries of gender, nationality, and boundaries of gender, nationality, and human pride. So really fascinating human pride. So really fascinating human pride. So really fascinating commentary there and we know how commentary there and we know how commentary there and we know how important faith is. You know Jesus says

important faith is. You know Jesus says important faith is. You know Jesus says you can move a mountain to here mountain you can move a mountain to here mountain you can move a mountain to here mountain there with such faith you know he says there with such faith you know he says there with such faith you know he says to Peter when he steps out on a boat and to Peter when he steps out on a boat and to Peter when he steps out on a boat and begins to sink e of little faith you begins to sink e of little faith you begins to sink e of little faith you know we we we see this reiteration know we we we see this reiteration know we we we see this reiteration through the whole thing and also it's through the whole thing and also it's through the whole thing and also it's not I don't I think it is intellectually not I don't I think it is intellectually not I don't I think it is intellectually honest to say that Jesus did use ways in honest to say that Jesus did use ways in honest to say that Jesus did use ways in piercing people's heart. Look at the piercing people's heart. Look at the piercing people's heart. Look at the workers on the vineyard story where they workers on the vineyard story where they workers on the vineyard story where they where he pierces people's hearts in the where he pierces people's hearts in the where he pierces people's hearts in the sense that people are like well that's sense that people are like well that's sense that people are like well that's not fair they should have got paid the not fair they should have got paid the not fair they should have got paid the same but instead it does the spiritual same but instead it does the spiritual same but instead it does the spiritual work in your heart and can also say work in your heart and can also say work in your heart and can also say Jesus does say if your right hand sins I Jesus does say if your right hand sins I Jesus does say if your right hand sins I think it's your right hand you know cut think it's your right hand you know cut think it's your right hand you know cut it off for it it's better that one part it off for it it's better that one part it off for it it's better that one part of the body goes to hell than the whole of the body goes to hell than the whole of the body goes to hell than the whole part of the body you know he he speaks part of the body you know he he speaks part of the body you know he he speaks about that and when people hear that about that and when people hear that about that and when people hear that they don't literally mean it in the same they don't literally mean it in the same they don't literally mean it in the same way when he communicated here did he way when he communicated here did he way when he communicated here did he know what he was doing because there know what he was doing because there know what he was doing because there obviously was a racial divide there was obviously was a racial divide there was obviously was a racial divide there was uh there was a kind of racist uh there was a kind of racist uh there was a kind of racist perspective to people from certain perspective to people from certain perspective to people from certain places. You know, that's that's very places. You know, that's that's very places. You know, that's that's very very clear. And Jesus was a Jew and he very clear. And Jesus was a Jew and he very clear. And Jesus was a Jew and he grew up like that. But how much did he grew up like that. But how much did he grew up like that. But how much did he transcend that? How much did he play transcend that? How much did he play transcend that? How much did he play into the role of that? And you know, into the role of that? And you know, into the role of that? And you know, Jesus fulfilled scripture, you know, in Jesus fulfilled scripture, you know, in Jesus fulfilled scripture, you know, in the sermon on the mount in Matthew the sermon on the mount in Matthew the sermon on the mount in Matthew famously, you know, we must exceed those famously, you know, we must exceed those famously, you know, we must exceed those of the religious leaders and Pharisees of the religious leaders and Pharisees of the religious leaders and Pharisees is affirming the Old Testament. And it's is affirming the Old Testament. And it's is affirming the Old Testament. And it's so important we don't forget that. But so important we don't forget that. But so important we don't forget that. But here's some interesting stuff. Now this here's some interesting stuff. Now this here's some interesting stuff. Now this part here is just some interesting AI part here is just some interesting AI part here is just some interesting AI stuff. I just typed in some questions stuff. I just typed in some questions stuff. I just typed in some questions and he says a living parable Jesus often and he says a living parable Jesus often and he says a living parable Jesus often uses Socratic methods asking questions uses Socratic methods asking questions uses Socratic methods asking questions making difficult statements to draw making difficult statements to draw making difficult statements to draw deeper truth from the person he was deeper truth from the person he was deeper truth from the person he was talking to. Now you could say from a talking to. Now you could say from a talking to. Now you could say from a skeptical view, well isn't that handy?

skeptical view, well isn't that handy? skeptical view, well isn't that handy? Isn't it handy that Jesus has a way here Isn't it handy that Jesus has a way here Isn't it handy that Jesus has a way here where he's clearly racist and he can where he's clearly racist and he can where he's clearly racist and he can kind of we can interpret it differently kind of we can interpret it differently kind of we can interpret it differently now because obviously we're Christians. now because obviously we're Christians. now because obviously we're Christians. And it's a fair point. I'll be And it's a fair point. I'll be And it's a fair point. I'll be completely honest. People could say that completely honest. People could say that completely honest. People could say that and I will say fair point. However, it and I will say fair point. However, it and I will say fair point. However, it is clear true that Jesus throughout his is clear true that Jesus throughout his is clear true that Jesus throughout his ministry is constantly piercing people's ministry is constantly piercing people's ministry is constantly piercing people's hearts and drawing things out. Whether hearts and drawing things out. Whether hearts and drawing things out. Whether you're Christian, whether you're you're Christian, whether you're you're Christian, whether you're atheist, that's true. The question is, atheist, that's true. The question is, atheist, that's true. The question is, is it are we bending the truth to say is it are we bending the truth to say is it are we bending the truth to say that? Which I think is a fair thing to that? Which I think is a fair thing to that? Which I think is a fair thing to pose. So, validating her positions by pose. So, validating her positions by pose. So, validating her positions by initially staying silent and then initially staying silent and then initially staying silent and then offering a challenge, Jesus gave the offering a challenge, Jesus gave the offering a challenge, Jesus gave the woman a platform to demonstrate a level woman a platform to demonstrate a level woman a platform to demonstrate a level of faith that would later amaze his of faith that would later amaze his of faith that would later amaze his disciples. So the language used little disciples. So the language used little disciples. So the language used little dogs in the original Greek the word is dogs in the original Greek the word is dogs in the original Greek the word is used as kunaran which is obviously the used as kunaran which is obviously the used as kunaran which is obviously the original manuscripts which means small original manuscripts which means small original manuscripts which means small household pets or puppies rather than household pets or puppies rather than household pets or puppies rather than scavenger dogs or in the street. So scavenger dogs or in the street. So scavenger dogs or in the street. So that's pretty interesting. So which that's pretty interesting. So which that's pretty interesting. So which means small household pets or puppies means small household pets or puppies means small household pets or puppies rather than which is quite an rather than which is quite an rather than which is quite an interesting difference I think there. So interesting difference I think there. So interesting difference I think there. So many scholars suggest that Jesus tone many scholars suggest that Jesus tone many scholars suggest that Jesus tone wasn't harsh but likely invited a wasn't harsh but likely invited a wasn't harsh but likely invited a response. He was echoing a common Jewish response. He was echoing a common Jewish response. He was echoing a common Jewish sentiment of their day to see if there sentiment of their day to see if there sentiment of their day to see if there would let social barriers stop her from would let social barriers stop her from would let social barriers stop her from reaching God. So order of operation reaching God. So order of operation reaching God. So order of operation statement about the children's bread statement about the children's bread statement about the children's bread which reminded of the biblical order which reminded of the biblical order which reminded of the biblical order salvation comes from the Jews first and salvation comes from the Jews first and salvation comes from the Jews first and then by the Gentiles. Now this is then by the Gentiles. Now this is then by the Gentiles. Now this is something I you could struggle with in something I you could struggle with in something I you could struggle with in the sense that if you view people who the sense that if you view people who the sense that if you view people who say well at that point God valued the say well at that point God valued the say well at that point God valued the Jews more than others. you could make Jews more than others. you could make Jews more than others. you could make that point and say that and I I to be that point and say that and I I to be that point and say that and I I to be honest I don't even have the uh the uh

honest I don't even have the uh the uh honest I don't even have the uh the uh kind of answers to that. I really don't kind of answers to that. I really don't kind of answers to that. I really don't and there's far more people way more and there's far more people way more and there's far more people way more educated than me who could answer that educated than me who could answer that educated than me who could answer that way better. Um but I've just thought way better. Um but I've just thought way better. Um but I've just thought this is fascinating. You know, did Jesus this is fascinating. You know, did Jesus this is fascinating. You know, did Jesus make mistakes? You know, he was fully make mistakes? You know, he was fully make mistakes? You know, he was fully human. Can we learn that, you know, human. Can we learn that, you know, human. Can we learn that, you know, mistakes aren't the worst thing ever in mistakes aren't the worst thing ever in mistakes aren't the worst thing ever in our society? Perfection everything. But our society? Perfection everything. But our society? Perfection everything. But maybe if the Lord Jesus Christ Jesus of maybe if the Lord Jesus Christ Jesus of maybe if the Lord Jesus Christ Jesus of Nazareth performed and did mistakes, Nazareth performed and did mistakes, Nazareth performed and did mistakes, does that show that mistakes really does that show that mistakes really does that show that mistakes really aren't the worst thing ever? You know, aren't the worst thing ever? You know, aren't the worst thing ever? You know, perfection is the biggest penicious myth perfection is the biggest penicious myth perfection is the biggest penicious myth of our life. You know, we the way we of our life. You know, we the way we of our life. You know, we the way we look, the way we live, everything. look, the way we live, everything. look, the way we live, everything. Perfection is the is the crippling shame Perfection is the is the crippling shame Perfection is the is the crippling shame that um kind of sweeps our society. Did that um kind of sweeps our society. Did that um kind of sweeps our society. Did Jesus make mistakes? It is such a big Jesus make mistakes? It is such a big Jesus make mistakes? It is such a big question. And I want to do more on this question. And I want to do more on this question. And I want to do more on this because I think it goes to the root of because I think it goes to the root of because I think it goes to the root of kind of someone's theology over who kind of someone's theology over who kind of someone's theology over who Jesus was. Now some people go, "Yeah, of Jesus was. Now some people go, "Yeah, of Jesus was. Now some people go, "Yeah, of course he made mistakes. He was a fully course he made mistakes. He was a fully course he made mistakes. He was a fully human guy. He was a, you know, he was a human guy. He was a, you know, he was a human guy. He was a, you know, he was a Jew. He grew up in a certain place. You Jew. He grew up in a certain place. You Jew. He grew up in a certain place. You know, he never sinned, but he never made know, he never sinned, but he never made know, he never sinned, but he never made mist he didn't make mistakes because sin mist he didn't make mistakes because sin mist he didn't make mistakes because sin and mistakes are two separities." Or and mistakes are two separities." Or and mistakes are two separities." Or maybe no, he never made mistakes. He was maybe no, he never made mistakes. He was maybe no, he never made mistakes. He was drawing people out. He was getting to drawing people out. He was getting to drawing people out. He was getting to the frame of mind of a Jew back then and the frame of mind of a Jew back then and the frame of mind of a Jew back then and he was he was you know pulling the he was he was you know pulling the he was he was you know pulling the heartstrings and the only way he could heartstrings and the only way he could heartstrings and the only way he could do that is by actually contemplating do that is by actually contemplating do that is by actually contemplating what someone thinks cuz it's like you what someone thinks cuz it's like you what someone thinks cuz it's like you know the way Paul administers you know know the way Paul administers you know know the way Paul administers you know in when he goes to Athens you know you in when he goes to Athens you know you in when he goes to Athens you know you of great faith you clearly have good of great faith you clearly have good of great faith you clearly have good faith he meets people where they are and faith he meets people where they are and faith he meets people where they are and to actually change people's mind you do to actually change people's mind you do to actually change people's mind you do have to meet them where they are you have to meet them where they are you have to meet them where they are you can't just come in with something can't just come in with something can't just come in with something completely out of the blue like it's

completely out of the blue like it's completely out of the blue like it's like if you're trying to convince like if you're trying to convince like if you're trying to convince someone in an argument you say something someone in an argument you say something someone in an argument you say something that's completely outland understand that's completely outland understand that's completely outland understand that they'll never believe ever. You're that they'll never believe ever. You're that they'll never believe ever. You're not going to say that. However, if you not going to say that. However, if you not going to say that. However, if you meet them where they are, if you say meet them where they are, if you say meet them where they are, if you say something that they might agree with in something that they might agree with in something that they might agree with in their frame of view, then they might their frame of view, then they might their frame of view, then they might agree with you and meet you where you agree with you and meet you where you agree with you and meet you where you are. So, you can make that point, which are. So, you can make that point, which are. So, you can make that point, which I think is pretty valid. So, my view of I think is pretty valid. So, my view of I think is pretty valid. So, my view of it is I think what we view as mistakes it is I think what we view as mistakes it is I think what we view as mistakes today, Jesus did make a mistake, but I today, Jesus did make a mistake, but I today, Jesus did make a mistake, but I think in who Jesus was and what he did, think in who Jesus was and what he did, think in who Jesus was and what he did, he did not make a mistake. Maybe that's he did not make a mistake. Maybe that's he did not make a mistake. Maybe that's too postmodern. Maybe that's too too postmodern. Maybe that's too too postmodern. Maybe that's too semantic for you. But yeah, let me know semantic for you. But yeah, let me know semantic for you. But yeah, let me know your thoughts in the comments. And I your thoughts in the comments. And I your thoughts in the comments. And I love you and I'll see you on the next love you and I'll see you on the next love you and I'll see you on the next one very soon. Peace.