"Christianity Was Never Jesus’ Plan" - TOP Historian Bart D. Ehrman

For truly I tell you, until heaven and For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not one letter, not one earth pass away, not one letter, not one earth pass away, not one letter, not one stroke of a letter will pass away until stroke of a letter will pass away until stroke of a letter will pass away until the all from the law until all is the all from the law until all is the all from the law until all is accomplished. accomplished. accomplished. Therefore, whoever breaks one of the Therefore, whoever breaks one of the Therefore, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments least of these commandments least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will and teaches others to do the same will and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of be called least in the kingdom of be called least in the kingdom of heaven. But whoever does them and heaven. But whoever does them and heaven. But whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the teaches them will be called great in the teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that unless your righteousness exceeds that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and the Pharisees, you of the scribes and the Pharisees, you of the scribes and the Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. will never enter the kingdom of heaven. will never enter the kingdom of heaven. >> So this is such a fascinating point by >> So this is such a fascinating point by >> So this is such a fascinating point by the famous historian Bart Ehrman, a man the famous historian Bart Ehrman, a man the famous historian Bart Ehrman, a man who I absolutely love, who went from who I absolutely love, who went from who I absolutely love, who went from Christianity to agnostic to atheist. And Christianity to agnostic to atheist. And Christianity to agnostic to atheist. And while I do believe Jesus is Lord, and I while I do believe Jesus is Lord, and I while I do believe Jesus is Lord, and I do believe Jesus comes from God, that do believe Jesus comes from God, that do believe Jesus comes from God, that the knowledge and wisdom this man has is the knowledge and wisdom this man has is the knowledge and wisdom this man has is unbelievable unbelievable unbelievable as a New Testament scholar. So it's very as a New Testament scholar. So it's very as a New Testament scholar. So it's very interesting the point he makes here interesting the point he makes here interesting the point he makes here because very often we believe that Jesus because very often we believe that Jesus because very often we believe that Jesus was almost a radical figure who came, was almost a radical figure who came, was almost a radical figure who came, smashed everything apart, and kind of smashed everything apart, and kind of smashed everything apart, and kind of made this new covenant. But what he's made this new covenant. But what he's made this new covenant. But what he's saying here is he's saying Jesus not saying here is he's saying Jesus not saying here is he's saying Jesus not only affirmed the Judaic law and, you only affirmed the Judaic law and, you only affirmed the Judaic law and, you know, the Pharisees and how they were know, the Pharisees and how they were know, the Pharisees and how they were acting, he's basically was more extreme.

acting, he's basically was more extreme. acting, he's basically was more extreme. He was like, "You know those things He was like, "You know those things He was like, "You know those things they're doing over there, and they're they're doing over there, and they're they're doing over there, and they're being extreme, they're following the being extreme, they're following the being extreme, they're following the rules? We must do it even more." And rules? We must do it even more." And rules? We must do it even more." And it's really interesting cuz you don't it's really interesting cuz you don't it's really interesting cuz you don't really often think about that, how Jesus really often think about that, how Jesus really often think about that, how Jesus was actually given a more difficult task was actually given a more difficult task was actually given a more difficult task to his followers than actually the to his followers than actually the to his followers than actually the Pharisees and the religious leaders. He Pharisees and the religious leaders. He Pharisees and the religious leaders. He gave a far more harder law to everyone. gave a far more harder law to everyone. gave a far more harder law to everyone. And it's it's such an interesting take And it's it's such an interesting take And it's it's such an interesting take cuz so often we miss that. So often we cuz so often we miss that. So often we cuz so often we miss that. So often we kind of think he must uprooted it all. kind of think he must uprooted it all. kind of think he must uprooted it all. And in some ways, he did uproot it. But And in some ways, he did uproot it. But And in some ways, he did uproot it. But he uprooted it from a place of actually he uprooted it from a place of actually he uprooted it from a place of actually more strictness, of actually more more strictness, of actually more more strictness, of actually more obedience, of actually your heart being obedience, of actually your heart being obedience, of actually your heart being such an important place to it. And such an important place to it. And such an important place to it. And obviously Jesus speaks about the heart obviously Jesus speaks about the heart obviously Jesus speaks about the heart so much in the way he preaches and what so much in the way he preaches and what so much in the way he preaches and what he says, but he he affirms everything in he says, but he he affirms everything in he says, but he he affirms everything in this incredible lie and bottom and so this incredible lie and bottom and so this incredible lie and bottom and so eloquently says that and he's going to eloquently says that and he's going to eloquently says that and he's going to give a very interesting analysis of it give a very interesting analysis of it give a very interesting analysis of it to see what he says. to see what he says. to see what he says. >> The scribes and the Pharisees are for >> The scribes and the Pharisees are for >> The scribes and the Pharisees are for Matthew are the highly religious Jews Matthew are the highly religious Jews Matthew are the highly religious Jews and you have to keep the law better than and you have to keep the law better than and you have to keep the law better than them.

them. them. What? What? What? You have to keep the law better You have to keep the law better You have to keep the law better than the most religious Jews? Yes. For than the most religious Jews? Yes. For than the most religious Jews? Yes. For Matthew, the answer is yes. Matthew, the answer is yes. Matthew, the answer is yes. That's in the New Testament? Yes, that's That's in the New Testament? Yes, that's That's in the New Testament? Yes, that's in the New Testament. This is the view in the New Testament. This is the view in the New Testament. This is the view that you find in the Gospel of Matthew. that you find in the Gospel of Matthew. that you find in the Gospel of Matthew. Christ did not abolish the law. Christ did not abolish the law. Christ did not abolish the law. Christ fulfilled the law and his Christ fulfilled the law and his Christ fulfilled the law and his followers have to follow the law. And followers have to follow the law. And followers have to follow the law. And then Jesus proceeds to explain what he then Jesus proceeds to explain what he then Jesus proceeds to explain what he means. means. means. You've heard it said that you should not You've heard it said that you should not You've heard it said that you should not murder. murder. murder. I say to you, I say to you, I say to you, you should not only not murder, you you should not only not murder, you you should not only not murder, you should not get angry with someone else. should not get angry with someone else. should not get angry with someone else. You murder somebody out of anger, don't You murder somebody out of anger, don't You murder somebody out of anger, don't even get angry in the first place. even get angry in the first place. even get angry in the first place. >> So this is such an important point to >> So this is such an important point to >> So this is such an important point to make cuz very often we can view Jesus as make cuz very often we can view Jesus as make cuz very often we can view Jesus as almost a separate entity, but everything almost a separate entity, but everything almost a separate entity, but everything he said was rooted in in Judaism. I know he said was rooted in in Judaism. I know he said was rooted in in Judaism. I know it's a very basic point to make, but it it's a very basic point to make, but it it's a very basic point to make, but it it's an important distinction that he it's an important distinction that he it's an important distinction that he constantly affirms Judaism cuz it's easy constantly affirms Judaism cuz it's easy constantly affirms Judaism cuz it's easy for Christians to kind of believe that for Christians to kind of believe that for Christians to kind of believe that what we believe is somehow completely what we believe is somehow completely what we believe is somehow completely different when actually it's not. So different when actually it's not. So different when actually it's not. So much of it is in the bedrock of Judaism, much of it is in the bedrock of Judaism, much of it is in the bedrock of Judaism, the culture, the practices and it's such the culture, the practices and it's such the culture, the practices and it's such a thing to really hold on to cuz if you a thing to really hold on to cuz if you a thing to really hold on to cuz if you want to get into the mindset of Jesus want to get into the mindset of Jesus want to get into the mindset of Jesus who was a Jew, who did practice Judaism, who was a Jew, who did practice Judaism, who was a Jew, who did practice Judaism, you know, Passover, these things and you know, Passover, these things and you know, Passover, these things and it's it's actually difficult to show him it's it's actually difficult to show him it's it's actually difficult to show him actually going against that, you know, actually going against that, you know, actually going against that, you know, like the Sabbath often we think he was like the Sabbath often we think he was like the Sabbath often we think he was kind of a rebel to that when actually kind of a rebel to that when actually kind of a rebel to that when actually it's difficult to pinpoint him ever it's difficult to pinpoint him ever it's difficult to pinpoint him ever breaking the law. He just in a way is breaking the law. He just in a way is breaking the law. He just in a way is more extreme than anyone on the law.

more extreme than anyone on the law. more extreme than anyone on the law. Um but he he brings the heart into that. Um but he he brings the heart into that. Um but he he brings the heart into that. And Bart Ehrman says it so well here. And Bart Ehrman says it so well here. And Bart Ehrman says it so well here. And it raises the massive question, did And it raises the massive question, did And it raises the massive question, did Jesus want a new faith? Did Jesus want Jesus want a new faith? Did Jesus want Jesus want a new faith? Did Jesus want Christianity? Did Jesus want a new faith Christianity? Did Jesus want a new faith Christianity? Did Jesus want a new faith to espouse out of to espouse out of to espouse out of Judaism like has happened? And the Judaism like has happened? And the Judaism like has happened? And the historical answer from the majority of historical answer from the majority of historical answer from the majority of New Testament scholars is no, he didn't. New Testament scholars is no, he didn't. New Testament scholars is no, he didn't. And I don't know what your view is if And I don't know what your view is if And I don't know what your view is if you're a Christian watching this, but you're a Christian watching this, but you're a Christian watching this, but let me know in the comments. Do you let me know in the comments. Do you let me know in the comments. Do you think Jesus wanted a new faith to come think Jesus wanted a new faith to come think Jesus wanted a new faith to come out of all this? Did Jesus want a kind out of all this? Did Jesus want a kind out of all this? Did Jesus want a kind of almost like Judaism 2.0? of almost like Judaism 2.0? of almost like Judaism 2.0? Um, did he want what Christianity is Um, did he want what Christianity is Um, did he want what Christianity is today? Or did he want something today? Or did he want something today? Or did he want something completely different? Because we know completely different? Because we know completely different? Because we know obviously from the Old Testament, may obviously from the Old Testament, may obviously from the Old Testament, may that be Daniel, may that be Ezekiel, may that be Daniel, may that be Ezekiel, may that be Daniel, may that be Ezekiel, may that be Isaiah, they predicted that that be Isaiah, they predicted that that be Isaiah, they predicted that Jesus would be rejected, but they did Jesus would be rejected, but they did Jesus would be rejected, but they did not predict what would happen, which was not predict what would happen, which was not predict what would happen, which was Christianity. So, let me know your your Christianity. So, let me know your your Christianity. So, let me know your your thoughts and comments. It'll be thoughts and comments. It'll be thoughts and comments. It'll be interesting. But let's hear some more of interesting. But let's hear some more of interesting. But let's hear some more of the incredible Bart Ehrman. the incredible Bart Ehrman. the incredible Bart Ehrman. >> You've heard it said, "Don't commit >> You've heard it said, "Don't commit >> You've heard it said, "Don't commit adultery. Don't take someone else's adultery. Don't take someone else's adultery. Don't take someone else's spouse." Well, I say to you is, don't spouse." Well, I say to you is, don't spouse." Well, I say to you is, don't even think about it.

even think about it. even think about it. Don't even want to take your neighbor's Don't even want to take your neighbor's Don't even want to take your neighbor's spouse. spouse. spouse. You've heard it said, "An eye for an You've heard it said, "An eye for an You've heard it said, "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth." That the the eye, a tooth for a tooth." That the the eye, a tooth for a tooth." That the the punishment should fit the crime. punishment should fit the crime. punishment should fit the crime. I say to you, turn the other cheek. I say to you, turn the other cheek. I say to you, turn the other cheek. Jesus radicalizes the law and makes it Jesus radicalizes the law and makes it Jesus radicalizes the law and makes it more difficult. He doesn't get rid of more difficult. He doesn't get rid of more difficult. He doesn't get rid of the law. Jesus doesn't say, "You've the law. Jesus doesn't say, "You've the law. Jesus doesn't say, "You've heard it said that you should not commit heard it said that you should not commit heard it said that you should not commit adultery, but I say to you, you should adultery, but I say to you, you should adultery, but I say to you, you should commit adultery." He doesn't get rid of commit adultery." He doesn't get rid of commit adultery." He doesn't get rid of the law. He makes the law harder. the law. He makes the law harder. the law. He makes the law harder. In Matthew. In Matthew. In Matthew. Christ's followers have to do this have Christ's followers have to do this have Christ's followers have to do this have to do the law even more strictly than to do the law even more strictly than to do the law even more strictly than the scribes and Pharisees. Jesus himself the scribes and Pharisees. Jesus himself the scribes and Pharisees. Jesus himself is portrayed as the new Moses in is portrayed as the new Moses in is portrayed as the new Moses in Matthew's gospel. Matthew's gospel. Matthew's gospel. Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus goes up on the the mount and he Jesus goes up on the the mount and he Jesus goes up on the the mount and he delivers an interpretation of the law of delivers an interpretation of the law of delivers an interpretation of the law of Moses because for Matthew's gospel, Moses because for Matthew's gospel, Moses because for Matthew's gospel, Jesus is the new Moses. He's not a new Jesus is the new Moses. He's not a new Jesus is the new Moses. He's not a new Moses who replaces the old Moses. The Moses who replaces the old Moses. The Moses who replaces the old Moses. The old Moses is still there, but Jesus old Moses is still there, but Jesus old Moses is still there, but Jesus gives his interpretation of the law, gives his interpretation of the law, gives his interpretation of the law, which now has to be followed. So, you which now has to be followed. So, you which now has to be followed. So, you have to follow the law, and you have to have to follow the law, and you have to have to follow the law, and you have to follow Jesus' interpretation of the law.

follow Jesus' interpretation of the law. follow Jesus' interpretation of the law. It's an interesting question whether the It's an interesting question whether the It's an interesting question whether the Gospel of Matthew thinks that the Gospel of Matthew thinks that the Gospel of Matthew thinks that the followers of Jesus have to be Jews. I followers of Jesus have to be Jews. I followers of Jesus have to be Jews. I don't think there's an easy answer to don't think there's an easy answer to don't think there's an easy answer to this question because Matthew doesn't this question because Matthew doesn't this question because Matthew doesn't come out and say. When Matthew does talk come out and say. When Matthew does talk come out and say. When Matthew does talk about the laws that people have to about the laws that people have to about the laws that people have to follow, in every case it's it's things follow, in every case it's it's things follow, in every case it's it's things like adultery and murder and and and and like adultery and murder and and and and like adultery and murder and and and and turning the other cheek and so and so turning the other cheek and so and so turning the other cheek and so and so on. It's not he doesn't talk about laws on. It's not he doesn't talk about laws on. It's not he doesn't talk about laws like the laws of circumcision or kosher like the laws of circumcision or kosher like the laws of circumcision or kosher food. So, it's hard to know does Jesus food. So, it's hard to know does Jesus food. So, it's hard to know does Jesus want his followers to keep to keep want his followers to keep to keep want his followers to keep to keep everything in the law? Some scholars everything in the law? Some scholars everything in the law? Some scholars think the answer is yes that Matthew think the answer is yes that Matthew think the answer is yes that Matthew wanted his followers to be Jews, and wanted his followers to be Jews, and wanted his followers to be Jews, and others think the answer is no. No, that others think the answer is no. No, that others think the answer is no. No, that that maybe he he's just interpreting that maybe he he's just interpreting that maybe he he's just interpreting maybe ethical laws instead of ritual maybe ethical laws instead of ritual maybe ethical laws instead of ritual laws. laws. laws. It's an open question. What's not an It's an open question. What's not an It's an open question. What's not an open question is that Matthew had a high open question is that Matthew had a high open question is that Matthew had a high evaluation of the law and thought that evaluation of the law and thought that evaluation of the law and thought that Jesus' followers had to follow the law Jesus' followers had to follow the law Jesus' followers had to follow the law rigorously. rigorously. rigorously. >> So, that that poses a question because >> So, that that poses a question because >> So, that that poses a question because we know that Paul in the way he we know that Paul in the way he we know that Paul in the way he evangelized people, it was different evangelized people, it was different evangelized people, it was different because he was going after Gentiles. And because he was going after Gentiles. And because he was going after Gentiles. And that's one of the differences of that's one of the differences of that's one of the differences of Christianity in the fact it brought in Christianity in the fact it brought in Christianity in the fact it brought in Gentiles to the kind of Judaic view of Gentiles to the kind of Judaic view of Gentiles to the kind of Judaic view of things. And that's that's a very things. And that's that's a very things. And that's that's a very important difference. And often that's important difference. And often that's important difference. And often that's how kind of we can assume that because how kind of we can assume that because how kind of we can assume that because so much of our bedrock of what we know so much of our bedrock of what we know so much of our bedrock of what we know about Christianity is built in this kind about Christianity is built in this kind about Christianity is built in this kind of Gentile view of looking at it. When of Gentile view of looking at it. When of Gentile view of looking at it. When actually the way we should look at it is actually the way we should look at it is actually the way we should look at it is from the Judaic place. And is is that's from the Judaic place. And is is that's from the Judaic place. And is is that's one of the reasons that Christianity one of the reasons that Christianity one of the reasons that Christianity spread so much because it targeted spread so much because it targeted spread so much because it targeted Gentiles. It tried to get Gentiles on Gentiles. It tried to get Gentiles on Gentiles. It tried to get Gentiles on board to believe that this man Jesus board to believe that this man Jesus board to believe that this man Jesus rose from the dead. It was different in

rose from the dead. It was different in rose from the dead. It was different in that sense. It was different from that sense. It was different from that sense. It was different from Judaism. And it's such an important very Judaism. And it's such an important very Judaism. And it's such an important very interesting point. And the question of interesting point. And the question of interesting point. And the question of who did Matthew want to convert and who did Matthew want to convert and who did Matthew want to convert and follow Jesus is also a really really follow Jesus is also a really really follow Jesus is also a really really important point because all the gospel important point because all the gospel important point because all the gospel authors obviously were writing to authors obviously were writing to authors obviously were writing to different sects of people and it's such different sects of people and it's such different sects of people and it's such a such a fascinating way of looking at a such a fascinating way of looking at a such a fascinating way of looking at it and it really just gets my head it and it really just gets my head it and it really just gets my head exploding with ideas and like, you know, exploding with ideas and like, you know, exploding with ideas and like, you know, what, where, how, who, you know. what, where, how, who, you know. what, where, how, who, you know. >> Jesus' own interpretation of the law in >> Jesus' own interpretation of the law in >> Jesus' own interpretation of the law in a sense becomes the new law. You have to a sense becomes the new law. You have to a sense becomes the new law. You have to follow not just the prescriptions of follow not just the prescriptions of follow not just the prescriptions of Moses, but Jesus' interpretation of the Moses, but Jesus' interpretation of the Moses, but Jesus' interpretation of the prescriptions of Moses. Virtually prescriptions of Moses. Virtually prescriptions of Moses. Virtually everybody that I know of who works on everybody that I know of who works on everybody that I know of who works on the historical Jesus thinks that Jesus the historical Jesus thinks that Jesus the historical Jesus thinks that Jesus was and meant to be law observant. That was and meant to be law observant. That was and meant to be law observant. That Jesus himself followed the Jewish law. Jesus himself followed the Jewish law. Jesus himself followed the Jewish law. Sometimes it's it's thought that Jesus Sometimes it's it's thought that Jesus Sometimes it's it's thought that Jesus wasn't following the law cuz he's wasn't following the law cuz he's wasn't following the law cuz he's breaking the Sabbath all over the place. breaking the Sabbath all over the place. breaking the Sabbath all over the place. When you actually read the New Testament When you actually read the New Testament When you actually read the New Testament Gospels, it's very hard to find any Gospels, it's very hard to find any Gospels, it's very hard to find any place where Jesus breaks the Sabbath.

place where Jesus breaks the Sabbath. place where Jesus breaks the Sabbath. You can find places where Jesus breaks You can find places where Jesus breaks You can find places where Jesus breaks how other Jews might have interpreted how other Jews might have interpreted how other Jews might have interpreted how you're supposed to observe the how you're supposed to observe the how you're supposed to observe the Sabbath. Sabbath. Sabbath. But you can't really find places where But you can't really find places where But you can't really find places where Jesus actually does things that are are Jesus actually does things that are are Jesus actually does things that are are are outlawed in the law of Moses with are outlawed in the law of Moses with are outlawed in the law of Moses with respect to Sabbath. respect to Sabbath. respect to Sabbath. So there were different opinions about So there were different opinions about So there were different opinions about what it meant to to observe the Sabbath what it meant to to observe the Sabbath what it meant to to observe the Sabbath and Jesus had one set of opinions that and Jesus had one set of opinions that and Jesus had one set of opinions that others others had different opinions others others had different opinions others others had different opinions about. about. about. Pretty much it looks like Jesus was law Pretty much it looks like Jesus was law Pretty much it looks like Jesus was law observant. observant. observant. Jesus was almost certainly a teacher of Jesus was almost certainly a teacher of Jesus was almost certainly a teacher of the law. If Jesus was a teacher of any the law. If Jesus was a teacher of any the law. If Jesus was a teacher of any sort, he was certainly a Jewish teacher. sort, he was certainly a Jewish teacher. sort, he was certainly a Jewish teacher. What does a Jewish teacher teach in the What does a Jewish teacher teach in the What does a Jewish teacher teach in the first century? He teaches the law, his first century? He teaches the law, his first century? He teaches the law, his interpretation of the law. So Jesus interpretation of the law. So Jesus interpretation of the law. So Jesus observed the law and he taught the law. observed the law and he taught the law. observed the law and he taught the law. Jesus did have disagreements with other Jesus did have disagreements with other Jesus did have disagreements with other teachers, especially Pharisees. teachers, especially Pharisees. teachers, especially Pharisees. Jesus wasn't the only one who had Jesus wasn't the only one who had Jesus wasn't the only one who had disagreements with Pharisees. Sadducees disagreements with Pharisees. Sadducees disagreements with Pharisees. Sadducees had disagreements with Pharisees. had disagreements with Pharisees. had disagreements with Pharisees. Essenes had disagreements with Essenes had disagreements with Essenes had disagreements with Pharisees. And most especially, Pharisees. And most especially, Pharisees. And most especially, Pharisees had disagreements with Pharisees had disagreements with Pharisees had disagreements with Pharisees. Pharisees. Pharisees. There were all sorts of disagreements There were all sorts of disagreements There were all sorts of disagreements within Judaism. within Judaism. within Judaism. Continues down to today, as you know. Continues down to today, as you know. Continues down to today, as you know. Jesus had disagreements with other Jesus had disagreements with other Jesus had disagreements with other teachers. It doesn't make him teachers. It doesn't make him teachers. It doesn't make him anti-Jewish or un-Jewish or non-Jewish anti-Jewish or un-Jewish or non-Jewish anti-Jewish or un-Jewish or non-Jewish or against the law. it simply makes him or against the law. it simply makes him or against the law. it simply makes him a Jewish teacher.

a Jewish teacher. a Jewish teacher. Did Jesus plan to start a new religion? Did Jesus plan to start a new religion? Did Jesus plan to start a new religion? Virtually everybody who works on the Virtually everybody who works on the Virtually everybody who works on the historical Jesus today from a critical historical Jesus today from a critical historical Jesus today from a critical perspective will say the answer is no. perspective will say the answer is no. perspective will say the answer is no. Jesus was not planning to start some Jesus was not planning to start some Jesus was not planning to start some kind of new religion that was separate kind of new religion that was separate kind of new religion that was separate from Judaism. Jesus was a Jew who from Judaism. Jesus was a Jew who from Judaism. Jesus was a Jew who followed Jewish customs and kept the followed Jewish customs and kept the followed Jewish customs and kept the Jewish law and was a Jewish teacher who Jewish law and was a Jewish teacher who Jewish law and was a Jewish teacher who had Jewish disciples whom he taught the had Jewish disciples whom he taught the had Jewish disciples whom he taught the his understanding of the Jewish law. his understanding of the Jewish law. his understanding of the Jewish law. Jesus may have wanted to present his own Jesus may have wanted to present his own Jesus may have wanted to present his own interpretation of what it meant to be interpretation of what it meant to be interpretation of what it meant to be one of the people of God, but that one of the people of God, but that one of the people of God, but that wasn't to start a new religion, wasn't to start a new religion, wasn't to start a new religion, Christianity. Christianity starts after Christianity. Christianity starts after Christianity. Christianity starts after Jesus' day. It's not something that Jesus' day. It's not something that Jesus' day. It's not something that Jesus himself wanted to start. And so, Jesus himself wanted to start. And so, Jesus himself wanted to start. And so, if that's the case, if that's the case, if that's the case, why did Christians end up changing what why did Christians end up changing what why did Christians end up changing what it was that Jesus taught? it was that Jesus taught? it was that Jesus taught? >> So, I sought to be questioned. Why was >> So, I sought to be questioned. Why was >> So, I sought to be questioned. Why was there a breakout to this thing called there a breakout to this thing called there a breakout to this thing called Christianity from Judaism? Because let's Christianity from Judaism? Because let's Christianity from Judaism? Because let's actually look at some of the old actually look at some of the old actually look at some of the old prophecies about what it says in the prophecies about what it says in the prophecies about what it says in the Bible. Should you have Isaiah 53, Bible. Should you have Isaiah 53, Bible. Should you have Isaiah 53, despised and rejected by men, which he despised and rejected by men, which he despised and rejected by men, which he was. You have Psalm 118, the stone the was. You have Psalm 118, the stone the was. You have Psalm 118, the stone the builders rejected. You have Isaiah, builders rejected. You have Isaiah, builders rejected. You have Isaiah, a stone stumbling to Israel. You have a stone stumbling to Israel. You have a stone stumbling to Israel. You have Zechariah, betrayed for 30 pieces of Zechariah, betrayed for 30 pieces of Zechariah, betrayed for 30 pieces of silver. Now, that isn't quote unquote, silver. Now, that isn't quote unquote, silver. Now, that isn't quote unquote, but um that's what it says in Zechariah.

but um that's what it says in Zechariah. but um that's what it says in Zechariah. Daniel, the Messiah will be cut off. And Daniel, the Messiah will be cut off. And Daniel, the Messiah will be cut off. And I've I've actually wrote this down a I've I've actually wrote this down a I've I've actually wrote this down a little bit. So, the Old Testament does little bit. So, the Old Testament does little bit. So, the Old Testament does not project a new religion. It does not not project a new religion. It does not not project a new religion. It does not predict a breakaway movement from predict a breakaway movement from predict a breakaway movement from Judaism. It does not predict a Gentile Judaism. It does not predict a Gentile Judaism. It does not predict a Gentile majority faith and it does not predict a majority faith and it does not predict a majority faith and it does not predict a kind of expansion away from Israel in kind of expansion away from Israel in kind of expansion away from Israel in the way we know it today. So, why did the way we know it today. So, why did the way we know it today. So, why did this happen? Now, this is a question this happen? Now, this is a question this happen? Now, this is a question that I'm just wrestling with in my head that I'm just wrestling with in my head that I'm just wrestling with in my head and I'm really trying to find out more, and I'm really trying to find out more, and I'm really trying to find out more, but I hope this kind of sparks some but I hope this kind of sparks some but I hope this kind of sparks some questions in your own head cuz I I we questions in your own head cuz I I we questions in your own head cuz I I we can learn so much from historians, can learn so much from historians, can learn so much from historians, especially non-Christian historians like especially non-Christian historians like especially non-Christian historians like Bart Ehrman, about the questions around Bart Ehrman, about the questions around Bart Ehrman, about the questions around our faith, about who Jesus was the our faith, about who Jesus was the our faith, about who Jesus was the historical man, and what did he actually historical man, and what did he actually historical man, and what did he actually intend? And in some way actually gives intend? And in some way actually gives intend? And in some way actually gives more magic in a way to the creed and more magic in a way to the creed and more magic in a way to the creed and what it means to be a Christian because what it means to be a Christian because what it means to be a Christian because the fact that we have developed the fact that we have developed the fact that we have developed something that wasn't in the text, something that wasn't in the text, something that wasn't in the text, supposedly, does make you think this supposedly, does make you think this supposedly, does make you think this wasn't part of the plan in some way, and wasn't part of the plan in some way, and wasn't part of the plan in some way, and the mysticism almost irregularity of the mysticism almost irregularity of the mysticism almost irregularity of that draws me to believe it to be so that draws me to believe it to be so that draws me to believe it to be so true because I think it makes more sense true because I think it makes more sense true because I think it makes more sense the Christians got it the Christians got it the Christians got it Sorry, not Christians, humans got it Sorry, not Christians, humans got it Sorry, not Christians, humans got it wrong than humans predicted and got wrong than humans predicted and got wrong than humans predicted and got everything right. And there's so many everything right. And there's so many everything right. And there's so many nuances to that. There's so many nuances to that. There's so many nuances to that. There's so many questions I have. I'm going to do a lot questions I have. I'm going to do a lot questions I have. I'm going to do a lot more videos on this because I think it's more videos on this because I think it's more videos on this because I think it's such an important subject, such an such an important subject, such an such an important subject, such an important topic. And we always need to important topic. And we always need to important topic. And we always need to ask questions like I'm doing here at the ask questions like I'm doing here at the ask questions like I'm doing here at the Open Faith Podcast. So, if you do enjoy, Open Faith Podcast. So, if you do enjoy, Open Faith Podcast. So, if you do enjoy, like, subscribe. We'll do many more of like, subscribe. We'll do many more of like, subscribe. We'll do many more of these. Listen to incredible Bart Ehrman.

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