Bart Ehrman VS Prophecy: Did Jesus REALLY Predict 70AD?

Various moments in the Gospels, Jesus Various moments in the Gospels, Jesus has discourses where he seems to predict has discourses where he seems to predict has discourses where he seems to predict something like the destruction of the something like the destruction of the something like the destruction of the Jewish Temple. Jewish Temple. Jewish Temple. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Which happens in 70 AD at the hands of >> Which happens in 70 AD at the hands of >> Which happens in 70 AD at the hands of Roman armies, right? Roman armies, right? Roman armies, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And just to take as the example the >> And just to take as the example the >> And just to take as the example the Gospel of Luke, right? So, the Gospel of Gospel of Luke, right? So, the Gospel of Gospel of Luke, right? So, the Gospel of Luke then connects to the Book of Acts, Luke then connects to the Book of Acts, Luke then connects to the Book of Acts, the story of the Acts of the Apostles. the story of the Acts of the Apostles. the story of the Acts of the Apostles. They're written seemingly by the same They're written seemingly by the same They're written seemingly by the same author. author. author. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> Acts The Acts of the Apostles is, you >> Acts The Acts of the Apostles is, you >> Acts The Acts of the Apostles is, you know, it starts out with the early know, it starts out with the early know, it starts out with the early church. It ends up following the career church. It ends up following the career church. It ends up following the career of St. Paul. And it ends pretty abruptly of St. Paul. And it ends pretty abruptly of St. Paul. And it ends pretty abruptly in the early '60s with Paul a prisoner in the early '60s with Paul a prisoner in the early '60s with Paul a prisoner in Rome. in Rome. in Rome. Um and that's that's just sort of where Um and that's that's just sort of where Um and that's that's just sort of where where where the book ends. where where the book ends. where where the book ends. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Soon after that, >> Soon after that, >> Soon after that, a lot of incredibly crazy stuff happens, a lot of incredibly crazy stuff happens, a lot of incredibly crazy stuff happens, right? You have the martyrdom of Paul right? You have the martyrdom of Paul right? You have the martyrdom of Paul and Peter. You have Nero's first and Peter. You have Nero's first and Peter. You have Nero's first persecution persecution persecution of the Christians. And then you have the of the Christians. And then you have the of the Christians. And then you have the Jewish War and the destruction of the Jewish War and the destruction of the Jewish War and the destruction of the Temple, right? So, it's it's a very Temple, right? So, it's it's a very Temple, right? So, it's it's a very action-packed decade.

action-packed decade. action-packed decade. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> It has always seemed to me that the most >> It has always seemed to me that the most >> It has always seemed to me that the most straightforward reading of Acts ending straightforward reading of Acts ending straightforward reading of Acts ending where it does without any detail of where it does without any detail of where it does without any detail of those subsequent events is just that those subsequent events is just that those subsequent events is just that the writer wasn't aware of those the writer wasn't aware of those the writer wasn't aware of those subsequent events and was writing was subsequent events and was writing was subsequent events and was writing was ending his story roughly where he was. ending his story roughly where he was. ending his story roughly where he was. It's the early '60s. Paul is still It's the early '60s. Paul is still It's the early '60s. Paul is still alive. This is the end of the story cuz alive. This is the end of the story cuz alive. This is the end of the story cuz this is when he's writing it. this is when he's writing it. this is when he's writing it. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> And that one of the key reasons that >> And that one of the key reasons that >> And that one of the key reasons that scholars reject that sort of intuitive scholars reject that sort of intuitive scholars reject that sort of intuitive conclusion is that they don't want to conclusion is that they don't want to conclusion is that they don't want to give Jesus credit for a prophecy. give Jesus credit for a prophecy. give Jesus credit for a prophecy. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, I can go go ahead. Tell tell me >> Yeah, I can go go ahead. Tell tell me >> Yeah, I can go go ahead. Tell tell me tell me tell me why you think that's tell me tell me why you think that's tell me tell me why you think that's that's a mistaken reading. that's a mistaken reading. that's a mistaken reading. >> Yeah, I know. I understand that >> Yeah, I know. I understand that >> Yeah, I know. I understand that argument. Yeah, I understand understand argument. Yeah, I understand understand argument. Yeah, I understand understand it. Well, wow. I I absolutely don't it. Well, wow. I I absolutely don't it. Well, wow. I I absolutely don't think that's why scholars came up with think that's why scholars came up with think that's why scholars came up with that, but okay. that, but okay. that, but okay. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Okay. So, >> Okay. So, >> Okay. So, yeah, C. S. Lewis speaks about this in yeah, C. S. Lewis speaks about this in yeah, C. S. Lewis speaks about this in his book Miracles, where he speaks about his book Miracles, where he speaks about his book Miracles, where he speaks about how if you don't if you do not believe how if you don't if you do not believe how if you don't if you do not believe in the supernatural realm, if you are in the supernatural realm, if you are in the supernatural realm, if you are have a purely naturalistic view of life have a purely naturalistic view of life have a purely naturalistic view of life and that the supernatural realm or and that the supernatural realm or and that the supernatural realm or another realm never interferes, then no another realm never interferes, then no another realm never interferes, then no amount of evidence, nothing will amount of evidence, nothing will amount of evidence, nothing will convince you that that is possible. And convince you that that is possible. And convince you that that is possible. And he makes the point about when people he makes the point about when people he makes the point about when people look into miracles. Like if from the off look into miracles. Like if from the off look into miracles. Like if from the off you do not believe that the natural you do not believe that the natural you do not believe that the natural order of thing is ever interfered, there order of thing is ever interfered, there order of thing is ever interfered, there is no point even looking into it because is no point even looking into it because is no point even looking into it because there is never going to be sufficient there is never going to be sufficient there is never going to be sufficient evidence to evidence to evidence to to clench your desire or doubt of to clench your desire or doubt of to clench your desire or doubt of something happening. And this in a sense something happening. And this in a sense something happening. And this in a sense is relevant here in the Gospels, you is relevant here in the Gospels, you is relevant here in the Gospels, you know, the notion that Jesus predicted know, the notion that Jesus predicted know, the notion that Jesus predicted things, the notion that basically things

things, the notion that basically things things, the notion that basically things were foretold and then actually were foretold and then actually were foretold and then actually happened. You know, but you could have a happened. You know, but you could have a happened. You know, but you could have a naturalistic worldview and say, "Well, naturalistic worldview and say, "Well, naturalistic worldview and say, "Well, people predict things all the time. It people predict things all the time. It people predict things all the time. It just happened to be that Jesus did just happened to be that Jesus did just happened to be that Jesus did predict it." And I think this is a very predict it." And I think this is a very predict it." And I think this is a very interesting point and it's a good, I interesting point and it's a good, I interesting point and it's a good, I think, apologetic tool to argue against think, apologetic tool to argue against think, apologetic tool to argue against some of the skeptics over a lot of the some of the skeptics over a lot of the some of the skeptics over a lot of the Jesus stuff, I would say. I say the Jesus stuff, I would say. I say the Jesus stuff, I would say. I say the Jesus stuff, what am I saying? The Jesus stuff, what am I saying? The Jesus stuff, what am I saying? The gospel message. But we'll see what the gospel message. But we'll see what the gospel message. But we'll see what the incredible Bart Ehrman says here. incredible Bart Ehrman says here. incredible Bart Ehrman says here. >> Well, of course, that's what I thought, >> Well, of course, that's what I thought, >> Well, of course, that's what I thought, you know, for for many years is that you know, for for many years is that you know, for for many years is that that's the best way to explain it. Um that's the best way to explain it. Um that's the best way to explain it. Um there are reasons for thinking the there are reasons for thinking the there are reasons for thinking the Gospels were written later than that. Gospels were written later than that. Gospels were written later than that. And so then it's a legitimate argument And so then it's a legitimate argument And so then it's a legitimate argument then, well, then why does why does the then, well, then why does why does the then, well, then why does why does the book of Acts end while Paul's in prison book of Acts end while Paul's in prison book of Acts end while Paul's in prison in Rome in the '60s? So in Rome in the '60s? So in Rome in the '60s? So uh two things about that. One, I agree uh two things about that. One, I agree uh two things about that. One, I agree that Jesus predicted the destruction of that Jesus predicted the destruction of that Jesus predicted the destruction of Jerusalem. So I don't late date them Jerusalem. So I don't late date them Jerusalem. So I don't late date them because of that. Uh number two, because of that. Uh number two, because of that. Uh number two, >> And Jesus projected it because it was >> And Jesus projected it because it was >> And Jesus projected it because it was just in keeping with Old Testament just in keeping with Old Testament just in keeping with Old Testament prophecy. Right, you're saying not you prophecy. Right, you're saying not you prophecy. Right, you're saying not you don't think just to be clear, you don't don't think just to be clear, you don't don't think just to be clear, you don't think Jesus literally knew the think Jesus literally knew the think Jesus literally knew the destruction was going to happen.

destruction was going to happen. destruction was going to happen. >> I don't think he had supernatural >> I don't think he had supernatural >> I don't think he had supernatural knowledge, you know. There were other knowledge, you know. There were other knowledge, you know. There were other there were other Jews at the time who there were other Jews at the time who there were other Jews at the time who were predicting the destruct destruction were predicting the destruct destruction were predicting the destruct destruction of Jerusalem. of Jerusalem. of Jerusalem. Uh so, you know, thinking, you know, Uh so, you know, thinking, you know, Uh so, you know, thinking, you know, it's kind of like, you know, people it's kind of like, you know, people it's kind of like, you know, people today, you know, might say you might today, you know, might say you might today, you know, might say you might predict something that's going to happen predict something that's going to happen predict something that's going to happen about the war in Iran, you know, and about the war in Iran, you know, and about the war in Iran, you know, and they'll they'll come up with some they'll they'll come up with some they'll they'll come up with some prediction. prediction. prediction. >> And somebody will be right. >> And somebody will be right. >> And somebody will be right. >> Somebody will be right. So so uh you >> Somebody will be right. So so uh you >> Somebody will be right. So so uh you know, you can read the handwriting on know, you can read the handwriting on know, you can read the handwriting on the wall kind of thing. Um there are the wall kind of thing. Um there are the wall kind of thing. Um there are good reasons for thinking why the author good reasons for thinking why the author good reasons for thinking why the author of Luke-Acts would have wanted an Acts of Luke-Acts would have wanted an Acts of Luke-Acts would have wanted an Acts before Paul was uh finally put on trial before Paul was uh finally put on trial before Paul was uh finally put on trial and executed. and executed. and executed. Um Um Um the whole point of the book of Acts is the whole point of the book of Acts is the whole point of the book of Acts is uh so for those who don't know, the book uh so for those who don't know, the book uh so for those who don't know, the book of Acts, as you said, begins after of Acts, as you said, begins after of Acts, as you said, begins after Jesus' resurrection and then he he Jesus' resurrection and then he he Jesus' resurrection and then he he ascends to heaven and then the day of ascends to heaven and then the day of ascends to heaven and then the day of Pentecost happens and Christianity Pentecost happens and Christianity Pentecost happens and Christianity starts spreading throughout the world. starts spreading throughout the world. starts spreading throughout the world. So it covers about a 30-year period So it covers about a 30-year period So it covers about a 30-year period um of the early spread of Christianity. um of the early spread of Christianity. um of the early spread of Christianity. One of the major theses of uh Acts, one One of the major theses of uh Acts, one One of the major theses of uh Acts, one of its themes, is that this is a of its themes, is that this is a of its themes, is that this is a movement that cannot be stopped.

movement that cannot be stopped. movement that cannot be stopped. Paul in particular cannot be stopped. Um Paul in particular cannot be stopped. Um Paul in particular cannot be stopped. Um Paul goes into a a town and he gets Paul goes into a a town and he gets Paul goes into a a town and he gets persecuted and they beat him and he just persecuted and they beat him and he just persecuted and they beat him and he just goes to the next town and starts another goes to the next town and starts another goes to the next town and starts another church. And they try to stop him there, church. And they try to stop him there, church. And they try to stop him there, can't stop him. At one point they stone can't stop him. At one point they stone can't stop him. At one point they stone him, gets up, goes to the next town. him, gets up, goes to the next town. him, gets up, goes to the next town. There's nothing you can do because the There's nothing you can do because the There's nothing you can do because the spirit is behind this whole thing. spirit is behind this whole thing. spirit is behind this whole thing. >> That's right. It's like podcasting. >> That's right. It's like podcasting. >> That's right. It's like podcasting. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Unstoppable. >> Unstoppable. >> Unstoppable. >> Unstoppable. >> Unstoppable. >> Unstoppable. Uh and very interesting. So um the uh Uh and very interesting. So um the uh Uh and very interesting. So um the uh the deal is if the Paul's execution had the deal is if the Paul's execution had the deal is if the Paul's execution had been narrated, he would have been been narrated, he would have been been narrated, he would have been stopped. Luke is trying to show that stopped. Luke is trying to show that stopped. Luke is trying to show that this is an unstoppable movement. So he's this is an unstoppable movement. So he's this is an unstoppable movement. So he's not going to narrate not going to narrate not going to narrate the execution. the execution. the execution. >> Now Bart does make an assertion and he >> Now Bart does make an assertion and he >> Now Bart does make an assertion and he does say Luke's goal was to present this does say Luke's goal was to present this does say Luke's goal was to present this to be an unstoppable movement that was to be an unstoppable movement that was to be an unstoppable movement that was going to take over the world. However, going to take over the world. However, going to take over the world. However, you know, there are many scholars that you know, there are many scholars that you know, there are many scholars that disagree with that and that I would say disagree with that and that I would say disagree with that and that I would say is more of a personal opinion than is more of a personal opinion than is more of a personal opinion than rather a historical fact. But it is a rather a historical fact. But it is a rather a historical fact. But it is a very interesting point. I really do very interesting point. I really do very interesting point. I really do think that is a fascinating point. And think that is a fascinating point. And think that is a fascinating point. And Luke, I think the way he narrates stuff Luke, I think the way he narrates stuff Luke, I think the way he narrates stuff and the way he recounts of I find very and the way he recounts of I find very and the way he recounts of I find very honest. Now, obviously I'm completely honest. Now, obviously I'm completely honest. Now, obviously I'm completely biased, I'm a Christian, [laughter] biased, I'm a Christian, [laughter] biased, I'm a Christian, [laughter] but I I don't know if this is a fair but I I don't know if this is a fair but I I don't know if this is a fair description of what Luke's intention is description of what Luke's intention is description of what Luke's intention is because again throughout everything Luke because again throughout everything Luke because again throughout everything Luke writes, he's so autobiographical in the writes, he's so autobiographical in the writes, he's so autobiographical in the way he writes. So, was his goal way he writes. So, was his goal way he writes. So, was his goal specifically that?

specifically that? specifically that? Or maybe maybe it's what was being Or maybe maybe it's what was being Or maybe maybe it's what was being displayed was really what he was being displayed was really what he was being displayed was really what he was being fed or told. fed or told. fed or told. So, who knows? It is a mystery and I'm So, who knows? It is a mystery and I'm So, who knows? It is a mystery and I'm I'm looking forward to figure out a lot I'm looking forward to figure out a lot I'm looking forward to figure out a lot more about it. more about it. more about it. >> One two two questions. First one, I've >> One two two questions. First one, I've >> One two two questions. First one, I've read your work and so I know that you read your work and so I know that you read your work and so I know that you think it's possible or likely that Jesus think it's possible or likely that Jesus think it's possible or likely that Jesus made these predictions. made these predictions. made these predictions. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Isn't aren't there a lot of scholars who >> Isn't aren't there a lot of scholars who >> Isn't aren't there a lot of scholars who think that Jesus' predictions are a think that Jesus' predictions are a think that Jesus' predictions are a reason reason reason to date to date to date the Gospels later? Isn't isn't that the Gospels later? Isn't isn't that the Gospels later? Isn't isn't that a not again, I agree. It's not the only a not again, I agree. It's not the only a not again, I agree. It's not the only reason, but it is it is a it is a reason, but it is it is a it is a reason, but it is it is a it is a significant reason given. significant reason given. significant reason given. >> It it would be the the deal is with that >> It it would be the the deal is with that >> It it would be the the deal is with that is that it's not quite that simple. It's is that it's not quite that simple. It's is that it's not quite that simple. It's that some of these predictions, that some of these predictions, that some of these predictions, especially in Luke, seem to show a especially in Luke, seem to show a especially in Luke, seem to show a detailed knowledge of what's going to detailed knowledge of what's going to detailed knowledge of what's going to happen when it happens. It's just not happen when it happens. It's just not happen when it happens. It's just not that the temple's going to be destroyed. that the temple's going to be destroyed. that the temple's going to be destroyed. It's that Roman troops are going to It's that Roman troops are going to It's that Roman troops are going to surround the city, that the Gentiles are surround the city, that the Gentiles are surround the city, that the Gentiles are going to trample and it goes into detail going to trample and it goes into detail going to trample and it goes into detail that looks like it's it's projecting that looks like it's it's projecting that looks like it's it's projecting backwards something that they know backwards something that they know backwards something that they know about.

about. about. >> But some of those details are also >> But some of those details are also >> But some of those details are also wrong, right? Like there's claims about wrong, right? Like there's claims about wrong, right? Like there's claims about what season it happens in. Right? Like what season it happens in. Right? Like what season it happens in. Right? Like pray that it doesn't happen in pray that it doesn't happen in pray that it doesn't happen in >> Well, yeah. No, but the the prediction >> Well, yeah. No, but the the prediction >> Well, yeah. No, but the the prediction that people say is wrong is when in Mark that people say is wrong is when in Mark that people say is wrong is when in Mark 13, Jesus says not one stone will be 13, Jesus says not one stone will be 13, Jesus says not one stone will be left upon another. left upon another. left upon another. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> And people can today can go to the >> And people can today can go to the >> And people can today can go to the Western Wall. There's stones still Western Wall. There's stones still Western Wall. There's stones still there. there. there. >> But the problem is that Mark wasn't from >> But the problem is that Mark wasn't from >> But the problem is that Mark wasn't from Jerusalem. Jerusalem. Jerusalem. He he he and when they people talk about He he he and when they people talk about He he he and when they people talk about the destruction of Jerusalem even today, the destruction of Jerusalem even today, the destruction of Jerusalem even today, they talk about it completely destroyed they talk about it completely destroyed they talk about it completely destroyed and it wasn't. So, the fact that Mark and it wasn't. So, the fact that Mark and it wasn't. So, the fact that Mark has it wrong doesn't mean that he he was has it wrong doesn't mean that he he was has it wrong doesn't mean that he he was living before the event. living before the event. living before the event. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> So, there but so you were saying that >> So, there but so you were saying that >> So, there but so you were saying that there are specific there are more there are specific there are more there are specific there are more specific reasons to think that the specific reasons to think that the specific reasons to think that the prophecies are written. So if you just prophecies are written. So if you just prophecies are written. So if you just first of all, it's fine for you to say first of all, it's fine for you to say first of all, it's fine for you to say okay Luke's theme is that Paul can't be okay Luke's theme is that Paul can't be okay Luke's theme is that Paul can't be stopped. So he doesn't want to end with stopped. So he doesn't want to end with stopped. So he doesn't want to end with Paul being stopped. But if Luke is Paul being stopped. But if Luke is Paul being stopped. But if Luke is writing decades and decades later, writing decades and decades later, writing decades and decades later, everyone knows that Paul was stopped. everyone knows that Paul was stopped. everyone knows that Paul was stopped. Everyone knows that Paul was martyred, Everyone knows that Paul was martyred, Everyone knows that Paul was martyred, right? And it seems that and it seems right? And it seems that and it seems right? And it seems that and it seems that but he's telling a story to an that but he's telling a story to an that but he's telling a story to an audience that is aware of events, right?

audience that is aware of events, right? audience that is aware of events, right? So if you're telling a story about So if you're telling a story about So if you're telling a story about Martin Luther King, Martin Luther King, Martin Luther King, right? And you write the story and you right? And you write the story and you right? And you write the story and you end the story, you know, somewhere end the story, you know, somewhere end the story, you know, somewhere just, you know, short short of his just, you know, short short of his just, you know, short short of his assassination and it's not a history assassination and it's not a history assassination and it's not a history just of Martin Luther King, it's a just of Martin Luther King, it's a just of Martin Luther King, it's a history of the whole civil rights history of the whole civil rights history of the whole civil rights movement and it leaves out like a whole movement and it leaves out like a whole movement and it leaves out like a whole sort of back half of these events. That sort of back half of these events. That sort of back half of these events. That would be an an odd narrative choice would be an an odd narrative choice would be an an odd narrative choice given that everybody knows everyone given that everybody knows everyone given that everybody knows everyone involved in the civil rights movement, involved in the civil rights movement, involved in the civil rights movement, everyone involved in American history everyone involved in American history everyone involved in American history ever since knows that the signal thing ever since knows that the signal thing ever since knows that the signal thing about the end of Martin Luther King's about the end of Martin Luther King's about the end of Martin Luther King's career was that he was assassinated and career was that he was assassinated and career was that he was assassinated and by the way, there were riots, there by the way, there were riots, there by the way, there were riots, there were, you know, there's a whole were, you know, there's a whole were, you know, there's a whole transformation of American politics transformation of American politics transformation of American politics associated with it. It just seems like a associated with it. It just seems like a associated with it. It just seems like a big one, it's a big challenge to write big one, it's a big challenge to write big one, it's a big challenge to write about that without letting that creep about that without letting that creep about that without letting that creep into your text. That's right. Two, into your text. That's right. Two, into your text. That's right. Two, [clears throat] why if your theme is [clears throat] why if your theme is [clears throat] why if your theme is that Paul could not be stopped and that Paul could not be stopped and that Paul could not be stopped and you're a Christian who believes in the you're a Christian who believes in the you're a Christian who believes in the resurrection, why wouldn't you end with resurrection, why wouldn't you end with resurrection, why wouldn't you end with Paul's martyrdom and say like, you know, Paul's martyrdom and say like, you know, Paul's martyrdom and say like, you know, like other Christian martyrs of which like other Christian martyrs of which like other Christian martyrs of which there are many, he continues to, you there are many, he continues to, you there are many, he continues to, you know, influence and shape the church to know, influence and shape the church to know, influence and shape the church to this day and give sort of further this day and give sort of further this day and give sort of further examples. Wouldn't that be just the much examples. Wouldn't that be just the much examples. Wouldn't that be just the much more rhetorically natural style?

more rhetorically natural style? more rhetorically natural style? >> Well, it may have been, but you can't >> Well, it may have been, but you can't >> Well, it may have been, but you can't tell an author what he needs to write. tell an author what he needs to write. tell an author what he needs to write. And the Martin Luther King thing, it's And the Martin Luther King thing, it's And the Martin Luther King thing, it's an interesting analogy, but I don't an interesting analogy, but I don't an interesting analogy, but I don't think it quite works because that's think it quite works because that's think it quite works because that's really kind of the point is the really kind of the point is the really kind of the point is the assassination. For Paul, according to assassination. For Paul, according to assassination. For Paul, according to Luke, that's not the point at all. For Luke, that's not the point at all. For Luke, that's not the point at all. For one thing, we don't have a lot of one thing, we don't have a lot of one thing, we don't have a lot of records of people being martyred at the records of people being martyred at the records of people being martyred at the time. We actually don't know a lot about time. We actually don't know a lot about time. We actually don't know a lot about Paul's death. The earliest reference we Paul's death. The earliest reference we Paul's death. The earliest reference we have to Paul have to Paul have to Paul experiencing martyrdom is around the experiencing martyrdom is around the experiencing martyrdom is around the year 95 by year 95 by year 95 by a book called First Clement. And so we a book called First Clement. And so we a book called First Clement. And so we don't have records. We don't We don't don't have records. We don't We don't don't have records. We don't We don't know what this author even knew, know what this author even knew, know what this author even knew, actually. actually. actually. >> But if he's writing later, by the time >> But if he's writing later, by the time >> But if he's writing later, by the time he's writing, Nero's persecution has he's writing, Nero's persecution has he's writing, Nero's persecution has happened. You have had substantial happened. You have had substantial happened. You have had substantial Christian martyrdoms of some kind. Christian martyrdoms of some kind. Christian martyrdoms of some kind. Martyrdom is would be, you know, part of Martyrdom is would be, you know, part of Martyrdom is would be, you know, part of the story that Christians have to tell. the story that Christians have to tell. the story that Christians have to tell. Just seems odd to leave it out. Just seems odd to leave it out. Just seems odd to leave it out. >> Well, it'd seem odd if you But, you >> Well, it'd seem odd if you But, you >> Well, it'd seem odd if you But, you know, there We have a lot of historical know, there We have a lot of historical know, there We have a lot of historical writings from the ancient world, and writings from the ancient world, and writings from the ancient world, and they don't end where you think they they don't end where you think they they don't end where you think they might where you would end them. And so might where you would end them. And so might where you would end them. And so it's common to tell a life to tell a it's common to tell a life to tell a it's common to tell a life to tell a biography that has a section of a biography that has a section of a biography that has a section of a person's life. So, um I understand it person's life. So, um I understand it person's life. So, um I understand it might seem weird, but I think it seems might seem weird, but I think it seems might seem weird, but I think it seems weirder if you just if you already weirder if you just if you already weirder if you just if you already assume that Luke was was writing before assume that Luke was was writing before assume that Luke was was writing before 70, then it'd be seem weird to you to 70, then it'd be seem weird to you to 70, then it'd be seem weird to you to think that somebody would think think that somebody would think think that somebody would think otherwise. I get that. Uh but the otherwise. I get that. Uh but the otherwise. I get that. Uh but the question is what is the actual evidence?

question is what is the actual evidence? question is what is the actual evidence? It's not where he stops. You can't You It's not where he stops. You can't You It's not where he stops. You can't You can't can't can't >> That is That is evidence. It's not the >> That is That is evidence. It's not the >> That is That is evidence. It's not the decisive evidence, maybe, but it is decisive evidence, maybe, but it is decisive evidence, maybe, but it is evidence, right? evidence, right? evidence, right? >> have to No, that's right. You look at >> have to No, that's right. You look at >> have to No, that's right. You look at every piece of evidence, and you weigh every piece of evidence, and you weigh every piece of evidence, and you weigh You weigh the probabilities. You weigh the probabilities. You weigh the probabilities. >> So, for all this was a fascinating >> So, for all this was a fascinating >> So, for all this was a fascinating exchange about the scholarship of when exchange about the scholarship of when exchange about the scholarship of when things were written, why do we think things were written, why do we think things were written, why do we think things were written? Cuz there's there's things were written? Cuz there's there's things were written? Cuz there's there's so much complexity to this in the sense so much complexity to this in the sense so much complexity to this in the sense that, you know, the the hand writing of that, you know, the the hand writing of that, you know, the the hand writing of a time, references to certain traditions a time, references to certain traditions a time, references to certain traditions are only around at certain place in a are only around at certain place in a are only around at certain place in a certain time under a certain leader. certain time under a certain leader. certain time under a certain leader. There's so many intricacies to each one There's so many intricacies to each one There's so many intricacies to each one of these things, and Bart obviously is of these things, and Bart obviously is of these things, and Bart obviously is an incredible historian who knows so an incredible historian who knows so an incredible historian who knows so much about this. And I I want to do more much about this. And I I want to do more much about this. And I I want to do more kind of deep dives on this because I kind of deep dives on this because I kind of deep dives on this because I feel to get to the root and the truth, feel to get to the root and the truth, feel to get to the root and the truth, we really need to uncover, you know, why we really need to uncover, you know, why we really need to uncover, you know, why behind a lot of things. And within that behind a lot of things. And within that behind a lot of things. And within that why is so many different biases, maybe why is so many different biases, maybe why is so many different biases, maybe Christian, maybe atheist, maybe whatever Christian, maybe atheist, maybe whatever Christian, maybe atheist, maybe whatever you believe. If there's no supernatural, you believe. If there's no supernatural, you believe. If there's no supernatural, there is supernatural, there's massive there is supernatural, there's massive there is supernatural, there's massive bias to what we think and why we bias to what we think and why we bias to what we think and why we believe. But, uncovering the true reason believe. But, uncovering the true reason believe. But, uncovering the true reason behind a lot of it is where we will find behind a lot of it is where we will find behind a lot of it is where we will find the truth. So, thanks so much for the truth. So, thanks so much for the truth. So, thanks so much for watching. Thanks for being on this watching. Thanks for being on this watching. Thanks for being on this channel. If you did like it, like, channel. If you did like it, like, channel. If you did like it, like, subscribe. I'm going to do way more subscribe. I'm going to do way more subscribe. I'm going to do way more videos like this. I know it's been a videos like this. I know it's been a videos like this. I know it's been a short one, but I did hope you did enjoy.

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