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Open Faith April 21, 2026 20m

😂Christian Politics in the UK - Tenconi Tuesdays #4

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  1. So, we're going to be speaking about the So, we're going to be speaking about the UKIP leader, Nick Griffin, the UKIP leader, Nick Griffin, the UKIP leader, Nick Griffin, the intellectual giant, the Christian intellectual giant, the Christian intellectual giant, the Christian powerhouse, the man himself, because it powerhouse, the man himself, because it powerhouse, the man himself, because it is episode 4 of Griffin Tuesdays. I hope is episode 4 of Griffin Tuesdays. I hope is episode 4 of Griffin Tuesdays. I hope you enjoy. Okay, probably one of the you enjoy. Okay, probably one of the you enjoy. Okay, probably one of the harder face-to-camera pieces that I'm harder face-to-camera pieces that I'm harder face-to-camera pieces that I'm ever going to have to do, JJ Aniss ever going to have to do, JJ Aniss ever going to have to do, JJ Aniss Obeid. For those of you don't know who he is, For those of you don't know who he is, that's this guy here. that's this guy here. that's this guy here. See that, the Daily Express. I say the See that, the Daily Express. I say the See that, the Daily Express. I say the Daily Express was quite a big paper. JJ, Daily Express was quite a big paper. JJ, Daily Express was quite a big paper. JJ, I've never heard of you before, cuz I've never heard of you before, cuz I've never heard of you before, cuz you're a no one. you're a no one. you're a no one. Beautiful loving message there, you Beautiful loving message there, you Beautiful loving message there, you know, you're an absolute nobody, because know, you're an absolute nobody, because know, you're an absolute nobody, because your worth and uh your worth and uh your worth and uh and your value in life is uh you know, and your value in life is uh you know, and your value in life is uh you know, you being a big name online or on on it you being a big name online or on on it you being a big name online or on on it being a journalist, that's the Christian being a journalist, that's the Christian being a journalist, that's the Christian way, you know, things of this world are way, you know, things of this world are way, you know, things of this world are the things that really, really matter. the things that really, really matter. the things that really, really matter. But you work for the Daily Express, so But you work for the Daily Express, so But you work for the Daily Express, so you've got a voice. You've got you've you've got a voice. You've got you've you've got a voice. You've got you've got a mouth, a mind, uh like so many got a mouth, a mind, uh like so many got a mouth, a mind, uh like so many presenters and media pundits, even presenters and media pundits, even presenters and media pundits, even influencers now, you have an ability to influencers now, you have an ability to influencers now, you have an ability to tell the truth.

  2. tell the truth. tell the truth. Or you can stay out of it completely, or Or you can stay out of it completely, or Or you can stay out of it completely, or you can moderate. You've written an you can moderate. You've written an you can moderate. You've written an article about my March my March with article about my March my March with article about my March my March with Jesus in Liverpool, and I'd say that's Jesus in Liverpool, and I'd say that's Jesus in Liverpool, and I'd say that's quite a quite a quite a I'd say that's quite a lot. I mean, it's I'd say that's quite a lot. I mean, it's I'd say that's quite a lot. I mean, it's it's it's a it's a page worth. it's it's a it's a page worth. it's it's a it's a page worth. Obviously, the king's there. Obviously, the king's there. Obviously, the king's there. And I thought I'd share with people that And I thought I'd share with people that And I thought I'd share with people that want to know want to know want to know that JJ, who's gone out of his way to that JJ, who's gone out of his way to that JJ, who's gone out of his way to describe himself as a devout Catholic, describe himself as a devout Catholic, describe himself as a devout Catholic, has slandered every single patriotic has slandered every single patriotic has slandered every single patriotic Christian Christian Christian who identifies as socially conservative, who identifies as socially conservative, who identifies as socially conservative, whether you are restore, reform, uh whether you are restore, reform, uh whether you are restore, reform, uh whether you're Advance, whether you're whether you're Advance, whether you're whether you're Advance, whether you're UKIP under my leadership. UKIP under my leadership. UKIP under my leadership. How he acts like this bloke is some sort How he acts like this bloke is some sort How he acts like this bloke is some sort of like of like of like super woke lefty liberal ever. He's a I super woke lefty liberal ever. He's a I super woke lefty liberal ever. He's a I think he's a presenter on TalkTV. He's think he's a presenter on TalkTV. He's think he's a presenter on TalkTV. He's quite a patriotic guy, actually, and quite a patriotic guy, actually, and quite a patriotic guy, actually, and he's acting like he's some sort of like he's acting like he's some sort of like he's acting like he's some sort of like woke snowflake. woke snowflake. woke snowflake. It's It's just incredible. Like if if It's It's just incredible. Like if if It's It's just incredible. Like if if you don't hit the barometer of puritanic you don't hit the barometer of puritanic you don't hit the barometer of puritanic puritanical right-wing views in Nick puritanical right-wing views in Nick puritanical right-wing views in Nick Griffin's eyes, you are some sort of Griffin's eyes, you are some sort of Griffin's eyes, you are some sort of woke liberal who is baying for woke liberal who is baying for woke liberal who is baying for right-wing blood or something like that.

  3. right-wing blood or something like that. right-wing blood or something like that. It's quite incredible. It really It's quite incredible. It really It's quite incredible. It really It is quite incredible. Uh as Catholics, It is quite incredible. Uh as Catholics, It is quite incredible. Uh as Catholics, he says, we already have spiritual he says, we already have spiritual he says, we already have spiritual guidance. Figures like Pope Leo speak guidance. Figures like Pope Leo speak guidance. Figures like Pope Leo speak about matters of morality, justice, and about matters of morality, justice, and about matters of morality, justice, and compassion with a depth no political compassion with a depth no political compassion with a depth no political party could hope to replicate. Talk me party could hope to replicate. Talk me party could hope to replicate. Talk me through the justice for the girls who through the justice for the girls who through the justice for the girls who were involved in the rape genocide of were involved in the rape genocide of were involved in the rape genocide of Britain, JJ. Britain, JJ. Britain, JJ. Mate, like I'm sure he spoke about that. Mate, like I'm sure he spoke about that. Mate, like I'm sure he spoke about that. Like he's acting like just because JJ's Like he's acting like just because JJ's Like he's acting like just because JJ's making a point here that he's against making a point here that he's against making a point here that he's against some other things. It's like some other things. It's like some other things. It's like speaking about one issue and then speaking about one issue and then speaking about one issue and then someone saying, "Well, what about this someone saying, "Well, what about this someone saying, "Well, what about this issue?" And then like, "Yeah, well, that issue?" And then like, "Yeah, well, that issue?" And then like, "Yeah, well, that Yeah, we should speak about that issue Yeah, we should speak about that issue Yeah, we should speak about that issue as well." But Nick's acting like JJ is as well." But Nick's acting like JJ is as well." But Nick's acting like JJ is some sort of like woke liberal who won't some sort of like woke liberal who won't some sort of like woke liberal who won't talk about these uncomfortable issues. talk about these uncomfortable issues. talk about these uncomfortable issues. He He has. He like he's a TalkTV He He has. He like he's a TalkTV He He has. He like he's a TalkTV presenter, he speaks on very contentious presenter, he speaks on very contentious presenter, he speaks on very contentious issues. He goes against a lot of the issues. He goes against a lot of the issues. He goes against a lot of the norms of people similar to him in the norms of people similar to him in the norms of people similar to him in the sense that he is a black man and a lot sense that he is a black man and a lot sense that he is a black man and a lot of and a lot of times people who hold of and a lot of times people who hold of and a lot of times people who hold those views can't like often they feel those views can't like often they feel those views can't like often they feel uncomfortable or they just won't be open uncomfortable or they just won't be open uncomfortable or they just won't be open about maybe being proud of Britain and about maybe being proud of Britain and about maybe being proud of Britain and stuff like that. But here we have Nick stuff like that. But here we have Nick stuff like that. But here we have Nick acting like because he's speaking about acting like because he's speaking about acting like because he's speaking about being a Catholic and having the being a Catholic and having the being a Catholic and having the authority and following the word of the authority and following the word of the authority and following the word of the Pope that somehow he's ignoring some Pope that somehow he's ignoring some Pope that somehow he's ignoring some other atrocities that have happened in other atrocities that have happened in other atrocities that have happened in Britain.

  4. Britain. Britain. I I don't understand that, personally. I I don't understand that, personally. I I don't understand that, personally. Talk to me about liberal secular Talk to me about liberal secular Talk to me about liberal secular um moral moral relativism, democracy, um moral moral relativism, democracy, um moral moral relativism, democracy, liberal democracy, liberal policies, a liberal democracy, liberal policies, a liberal democracy, liberal policies, a billion abortions since 1920, 11 a billion abortions since 1920, 11 a billion abortions since 1920, 11 a million abortions since 1967, million abortions since 1967, million abortions since 1967, justice for our babies, our homeless, justice for our babies, our homeless, justice for our babies, our homeless, etc. There is a also a broader principle etc. There is a also a broader principle etc. There is a also a broader principle at stake here. Britain, for all its at stake here. Britain, for all its at stake here. Britain, for all its history, operates on a clear separation history, operates on a clear separation history, operates on a clear separation between church and state. Liberalism is between church and state. Liberalism is between church and state. Liberalism is an ideology. Marxism is an ideology. an ideology. Marxism is an ideology. an ideology. Marxism is an ideology. Islamism is an ideology, and they are Islamism is an ideology, and they are Islamism is an ideology, and they are all people's religions. Marxism is the all people's religions. Marxism is the all people's religions. Marxism is the religion of Marxists. Liberalism is the religion of Marxists. Liberalism is the religion of Marxists. Liberalism is the religion of liberals. Yet Catholics, religion of liberals. Yet Catholics, religion of liberals. Yet Catholics, Anglicans, Evangelicals, Baptists, Anglicans, Evangelicals, Baptists, Anglicans, Evangelicals, Baptists, Method- Methodists who identify as Method- Methodists who identify as Method- Methodists who identify as conservative apparently have co-opted, conservative apparently have co-opted, conservative apparently have co-opted, quote unquote, the faith. And as JJ goes quote unquote, the faith. And as JJ goes quote unquote, the faith. And as JJ goes on to say, on to say, on to say, once political movements begin to claim once political movements begin to claim once political movements begin to claim divine backing, divine backing, divine backing, I never claim divine backing. I'm just a I never claim divine backing. I'm just a I never claim divine backing. I'm just a disciple. God can do with me as he disciple. God can do with me as he disciple. God can do with me as he wants.

  5. wants. wants. Yeah, Nick Nick's a very He's a very Yeah, Nick Nick's a very He's a very Yeah, Nick Nick's a very He's a very humble bloke. He's a real down-to-earth humble bloke. He's a real down-to-earth humble bloke. He's a real down-to-earth humble man who doesn't call people humble man who doesn't call people humble man who doesn't call people communist scum, doesn't say, you know, communist scum, doesn't say, you know, communist scum, doesn't say, you know, what like we're we're doing the Lord's what like we're we're doing the Lord's what like we're we're doing the Lord's work here or he doesn't do any of that, work here or he doesn't do any of that, work here or he doesn't do any of that, you know, he he's just a humble man who you know, he he's just a humble man who you know, he he's just a humble man who is God-fearing is God-fearing is God-fearing and goes about doing these things. Once and goes about doing these things. Once and goes about doing these things. Once political movements begin to claim political movements begin to claim political movements begin to claim divine backing, disagreement risks divine backing, disagreement risks divine backing, disagreement risks becoming heresy. No, JJ, there is such a becoming heresy. No, JJ, there is such a becoming heresy. No, JJ, there is such a thing as heresy. There is such a thing thing as heresy. There is such a thing thing as heresy. There is such a thing as apostates. There is such a thing as as apostates. There is such a thing as as apostates. There is such a thing as false religions and false prophets. I'm false religions and false prophets. I'm false religions and false prophets. I'm totally in totally in totally in Again, he's just straw manning Again, he's just straw manning Again, he's just straw manning everything he says, cuz look, the thing everything he says, cuz look, the thing everything he says, cuz look, the thing the issue of abortion, the issue of the issue of abortion, the issue of the issue of abortion, the issue of things like that. Like I'm sure JJ things like that. Like I'm sure JJ things like that. Like I'm sure JJ probably does care about that and has probably does care about that and has probably does care about that and has spoken about it. And also, I'm sure like spoken about it. And also, I'm sure like spoken about it. And also, I'm sure like you know, if you asked him about it, he you know, if you asked him about it, he you know, if you asked him about it, he would speak about that. But would speak about that. But would speak about that. But you're acting like you know all of his you're acting like you know all of his you're acting like you know all of his positions and all these things, but you positions and all these things, but you positions and all these things, but you haven't named one thing he has said haven't named one thing he has said haven't named one thing he has said about these issues or these things.

  6. about these issues or these things. about these issues or these things. You're just saying, "What about this? You're just saying, "What about this? You're just saying, "What about this? What about that? What And it's like, What about that? What And it's like, What about that? What And it's like, mate, address what he's saying first, mate, address what he's saying first, mate, address what he's saying first, then you can go to that. If you said to then you can go to that. If you said to then you can go to that. If you said to him, and I think the reason Nick here is him, and I think the reason Nick here is him, and I think the reason Nick here is a bit angry is because he kind of knows a bit angry is because he kind of knows a bit angry is because he kind of knows it's true. He kind of knows that if it's true. He kind of knows that if it's true. He kind of knows that if Jesus of Nazareth, the man who spoke Jesus of Nazareth, the man who spoke Jesus of Nazareth, the man who spoke Aramaic, who went around to absolutely Aramaic, who went around to absolutely Aramaic, who went around to absolutely everybody, came along and yes, he was an everybody, came along and yes, he was an everybody, came along and yes, he was an extremely political guy. However, he extremely political guy. However, he extremely political guy. However, he spoke with freedom. The apostles, when spoke with freedom. The apostles, when spoke with freedom. The apostles, when they went out, they never forced anyone they went out, they never forced anyone they went out, they never forced anyone to convert, you know, Paul, when he goes to convert, you know, Paul, when he goes to convert, you know, Paul, when he goes out, you know, he's debating in Ephesus, out, you know, he's debating in Ephesus, out, you know, he's debating in Ephesus, he's speaking from the power pit, he's he's speaking from the power pit, he's he's speaking from the power pit, he's he's trying to evangelize. He's not he's trying to evangelize. He's not he's trying to evangelize. He's not saying, "If you don't follow this, I'll saying, "If you don't follow this, I'll saying, "If you don't follow this, I'll kill you." He doesn't say any of that. kill you." He doesn't say any of that. kill you." He doesn't say any of that. He's not saying, "If you don't follow He's not saying, "If you don't follow He's not saying, "If you don't follow this, well, you'll be deported." He this, well, you'll be deported." He this, well, you'll be deported." He meets people where they are, you know, meets people where they are, you know, meets people where they are, you know, in Athens, where he says, "You've great in Athens, where he says, "You've great in Athens, where he says, "You've great faith." He meets people where they're faith." He meets people where they're faith." He meets people where they're at. He doesn't say, "Oh, you know, I at. He doesn't say, "Oh, you know, I at. He doesn't say, "Oh, you know, I don't like you. You should be deported don't like you. You should be deported don't like you. You should be deported if you disagree with me." He doesn't say if you disagree with me." He doesn't say if you disagree with me." He doesn't say any of that. And we can learn a lot from any of that. And we can learn a lot from any of that. And we can learn a lot from that. I mean, Nick's view is pretty much that. I mean, Nick's view is pretty much that. I mean, Nick's view is pretty much if you hold communist views, if you hold if you hold communist views, if you hold if you hold communist views, if you hold Marxist views, if you Marxist views, if you Marxist views, if you like are a bit left-wing socially, you like are a bit left-wing socially, you like are a bit left-wing socially, you should be deported borderline. Now, I should be deported borderline. Now, I should be deported borderline. Now, I don't want to straw man him. This is don't want to straw man him. This is don't want to straw man him. This is just based on protests and stuff he said just based on protests and stuff he said just based on protests and stuff he said where we should deport the Islamists, where we should deport the Islamists, where we should deport the Islamists, the communists, the Marxists. Where to?

  7. the communists, the Marxists. Where to? the communists, the Marxists. Where to? I don't know. I'm not sure what the UKIP I don't know. I'm not sure what the UKIP I don't know. I'm not sure what the UKIP policy plan is on that. But you know, policy plan is on that. But you know, policy plan is on that. But you know, Jesus was a radical guy. He was Jesus was a radical guy. He was Jesus was a radical guy. He was political, but not in the sense that political, but not in the sense that political, but not in the sense that Nick wants him to be political. He Nick wants him to be political. He Nick wants him to be political. He wasn't political in the sense that he wasn't political in the sense that he wasn't political in the sense that he went around saying to deport anything went around saying to deport anything went around saying to deport anything that moves. He was political in the that moves. He was political in the that moves. He was political in the sense that he drew bridges between sense that he drew bridges between sense that he drew bridges between divides. He healed the Roman Centurion's divides. He healed the Roman Centurion's divides. He healed the Roman Centurion's servant. You know, he said, "Love your servant. You know, he said, "Love your servant. You know, he said, "Love your enemies." He said, "When someone asks enemies." He said, "When someone asks enemies." He said, "When someone asks you to walk one mile, walk two." As we you to walk one mile, walk two." As we you to walk one mile, walk two." As we know in Sermon on the Mount on Matthew, know in Sermon on the Mount on Matthew, know in Sermon on the Mount on Matthew, you know, he said, "Love your enemies." you know, he said, "Love your enemies." you know, he said, "Love your enemies." While the Jews were being occupied by While the Jews were being occupied by While the Jews were being occupied by Roman the Romans, when he said give to Roman the Romans, when he said give to Roman the Romans, when he said give to Caesar what Caesar's give to God what's Caesar what Caesar's give to God what's Caesar what Caesar's give to God what's God's. He He drew a He drew a bridge. He God's. He He drew a He drew a bridge. He God's. He He drew a He drew a bridge. He drew a olive branch to the enemies. He drew a olive branch to the enemies. He drew a olive branch to the enemies. He He He had such radical love. As I would He He had such radical love. As I would He He had such radical love. As I would say, it pierced the hearts of man, of say, it pierced the hearts of man, of say, it pierced the hearts of man, of everyone. It wasn't what people wanted everyone. It wasn't what people wanted everyone. It wasn't what people wanted to hear at all. He was a political guy, to hear at all. He was a political guy, to hear at all. He was a political guy, but he also wasn't forceful about it. but he also wasn't forceful about it. but he also wasn't forceful about it. And that's that's the beauty of And that's that's the beauty of And that's that's the beauty of Christianity. It is the free choice. It Christianity. It is the free choice. It Christianity. It is the free choice. It is the freedom to say, "No, I don't want is the freedom to say, "No, I don't want is the freedom to say, "No, I don't want to follow God. No, I don't think Jesus to follow God. No, I don't think Jesus to follow God. No, I don't think Jesus was the son of God and really walked was the son of God and really walked was the son of God and really walked around performing miracles." I don't around performing miracles." I don't around performing miracles." I don't believe that. I don't believe he rose believe that. I don't believe he rose believe that. I don't believe he rose again. You know, that's the beauty of again. You know, that's the beauty of again. You know, that's the beauty of Christianity. It's saying that you can Christianity. It's saying that you can Christianity. It's saying that you can have the choice. You know, you can have the choice. You know, you can have the choice. You know, you can reject this. I'm inclined to call you, reject this. I'm inclined to call you, reject this. I'm inclined to call you, JJ, a devout self-confessed her- um JJ, a devout self-confessed her- um JJ, a devout self-confessed her- um Catholic, a heretic at this stage. There Catholic, a heretic at this stage. There Catholic, a heretic at this stage. There A heretic, mate. All he All he did was A heretic, mate. All he All he did was A heretic, mate. All he All he did was criticize your rally about hijacking criticize your rally about hijacking criticize your rally about hijacking faith. You can say, "We didn't hijack faith. You can say, "We didn't hijack faith. You can say, "We didn't hijack faith." Going from that to say you're a faith." Going from that to say you're a faith." Going from that to say you're a heretic. He's not denying that Jesus

  8. heretic. He's not denying that Jesus heretic. He's not denying that Jesus isn't Lord. He's not denying any of isn't Lord. He's not denying any of isn't Lord. He's not denying any of these things. He's just saying that. these things. He's just saying that. these things. He's just saying that. That does not classify someone as a That does not classify someone as a That does not classify someone as a heretic, mate. If he said that Jesus heretic, mate. If he said that Jesus heretic, mate. If he said that Jesus never existed and he didn't actually never existed and he didn't actually never existed and he didn't actually rise from the dead, and yeah, you can rise from the dead, and yeah, you can rise from the dead, and yeah, you can make an argument that he's a heretic. make an argument that he's a heretic. make an argument that he's a heretic. But mate, come on. You can't say But mate, come on. You can't say But mate, come on. You can't say someone's a heretic just cuz they someone's a heretic just cuz they someone's a heretic just cuz they criticized your rally. That's just criticized your rally. That's just criticized your rally. That's just embarrassing. There's only one true God embarrassing. There's only one true God embarrassing. There's only one true God of only one true faith. There is not of only one true faith. There is not of only one true faith. There is not multiple ones. As a devout Catholic, you multiple ones. As a devout Catholic, you multiple ones. As a devout Catholic, you should know that. should know that. should know that. That is how he goes on to say, "And That is how he goes on to say, "And That is how he goes on to say, "And debate rich I'd love to see um Nick, cuz debate rich I'd love to see um Nick, cuz debate rich I'd love to see um Nick, cuz Nick's a self-proclaimed Catholic as Nick's a self-proclaimed Catholic as Nick's a self-proclaimed Catholic as well. And Pope Leo's been very outspoken well. And Pope Leo's been very outspoken well. And Pope Leo's been very outspoken about what's happening in Iran, over about what's happening in Iran, over about what's happening in Iran, over Trump, over migrants. So, I I wonder Trump, over migrants. So, I I wonder Trump, over migrants. So, I I wonder what he thinks of that, you know, as a what he thinks of that, you know, as a what he thinks of that, you know, as a Catholic who really has weight to the Catholic who really has weight to the Catholic who really has weight to the Vatican. Vatican. Vatican. What I wonder what he thinks of that, What I wonder what he thinks of that, What I wonder what he thinks of that, you know, I'm not Not every Catholic you know, I'm not Not every Catholic you know, I'm not Not every Catholic needs to be in complete synchronization needs to be in complete synchronization needs to be in complete synchronization with what the Pope thinks, but it's fair with what the Pope thinks, but it's fair with what the Pope thinks, but it's fair to say that it has extremely big weight. to say that it has extremely big weight. to say that it has extremely big weight. And um And um And um you know, Pope Leo's been very vocal. He you know, Pope Leo's been very vocal. He you know, Pope Leo's been very vocal. He hasn't been passive around these issues.

  9. hasn't been passive around these issues. hasn't been passive around these issues. So, I wonder what he risks becoming So, I wonder what he risks becoming So, I wonder what he risks becoming division. That is how sectarianism takes division. That is how sectarianism takes division. That is how sectarianism takes root. Yeah, that's right. Now that root. Yeah, that's right. Now that root. Yeah, that's right. Now that Christians in Britain have a political Christians in Britain have a political Christians in Britain have a political party to rally against, call out the party to rally against, call out the party to rally against, call out the sectarianism that could be growing sectarianism that could be growing sectarianism that could be growing amongst Christians, but completely amongst Christians, but completely amongst Christians, but completely ignore the Islamic caliphate, you ignore the Islamic caliphate, you ignore the Islamic caliphate, you cowards. cowards. cowards. And they He calls them a coward, you And they He calls them a coward, you And they He calls them a coward, you know. Again, you're seeing the love, know. Again, you're seeing the love, know. Again, you're seeing the love, you're seeing the gospel message radiate you're seeing the gospel message radiate you're seeing the gospel message radiate through Nick's lovely through Nick's lovely through Nick's lovely face. This is not a problem confined to face. This is not a problem confined to face. This is not a problem confined to one side on the political spectrum, he one side on the political spectrum, he one side on the political spectrum, he goes on to say. So that you all know I goes on to say. So that you all know I goes on to say. So that you all know I am being reasonable. am being reasonable. am being reasonable. Any party tempted to wrap itself up in Any party tempted to wrap itself up in Any party tempted to wrap itself up in religious virtue should be challenged. religious virtue should be challenged. religious virtue should be challenged. He goes on to say, yes, even the Green He goes on to say, yes, even the Green He goes on to say, yes, even the Green Party when it targets religious groups Party when it targets religious groups Party when it targets religious groups as it did in Gorton and Denton. One So as it did in Gorton and Denton. One So as it did in Gorton and Denton. One So there we go. He's clearly not a hack. there we go. He's clearly not a hack. there we go. He's clearly not a hack. He's clearly not some tribal woke lefty. He's clearly not some tribal woke lefty. He's clearly not some tribal woke lefty. He's calling out the Greens. He's He's calling out the Greens. He's He's calling out the Greens. He's calling out people on the right. He's calling out people on the right. He's calling out people on the right. He's just saying what he thinks. He's just saying what he thinks. He's just saying what he thinks. He's speaking from the heart. He's speaking speaking from the heart. He's speaking speaking from the heart. He's speaking what he believes to If you disagree with what he believes to If you disagree with what he believes to If you disagree with fair enough, you know, articulate that fair enough, you know, articulate that fair enough, you know, articulate that well.

  10. well. well. You know, calling him in the heretic, You know, calling him in the heretic, You know, calling him in the heretic, mate. Come on. What is this? sentence, mate. Come on. What is this? sentence, mate. Come on. What is this? sentence, patriots. One sentence of neutrality. patriots. One sentence of neutrality. patriots. One sentence of neutrality. One sentence out of 20 sentences. One sentence out of 20 sentences. One sentence out of 20 sentences. Uh the I will close by saying this. Uh the I will close by saying this. Uh the I will close by saying this. He starts off to lure the reader in to He starts off to lure the reader in to He starts off to lure the reader in to be very, very softly, softly. In be very, very softly, softly. In be very, very softly, softly. In Liverpool last week, the UK Independence Liverpool last week, the UK Independence Liverpool last week, the UK Independence Party held what it called a Walk with Party held what it called a Walk with Party held what it called a Walk with Jesus rally, a march framed not just as Jesus rally, a march framed not just as Jesus rally, a march framed not just as a political expression but as a a political expression but as a a political expression but as a declaration of faith. Yes, precisely and declaration of faith. Yes, precisely and declaration of faith. Yes, precisely and thanks be to God. But he then moves on thanks be to God. But he then moves on thanks be to God. But he then moves on to say, to say, to say, as a devout Catholic, I find this deeply as a devout Catholic, I find this deeply as a devout Catholic, I find this deeply uncomfortable. Faith is not a branding uncomfortable. Faith is not a branding uncomfortable. Faith is not a branding exercise. So all of you who are exercise. So all of you who are exercise. So all of you who are Christian, let me tell you, JJ, a devout Christian, let me tell you, JJ, a devout Christian, let me tell you, JJ, a devout Catholic, says that faith is not a Catholic, says that faith is not a Catholic, says that faith is not a branding exercise. I mean, it's true. branding exercise. I mean, it's true. branding exercise. I mean, it's true. Faith isn't a branding exercise. Preach Faith isn't a branding exercise. Preach Faith isn't a branding exercise. Preach the gospel. Use words if you have to. It the gospel. Use words if you have to. It the gospel. Use words if you have to. It It shouldn't be some sort of thing you It shouldn't be some sort of thing you It shouldn't be some sort of thing you flex. I mean, I guess you could be flex. I mean, I guess you could be flex. I mean, I guess you could be proud in some way to be a Christian and proud in some way to be a Christian and proud in some way to be a Christian and to believe Jesus is Lord. And that if to believe Jesus is Lord. And that if to believe Jesus is Lord. And that if anything is the only thing you can be anything is the only thing you can be anything is the only thing you can be proud about. But I I wouldn't say like proud about. But I I wouldn't say like proud about. But I I wouldn't say like if you're running in a political party if you're running in a political party if you're running in a political party and you're literally trying to hijack and you're literally trying to hijack and you're literally trying to hijack people to vote for you by just saying people to vote for you by just saying people to vote for you by just saying the word Christian and Jesus. I I don't the word Christian and Jesus. I I don't the word Christian and Jesus. I I don't think that is right. So that's what the think that is right. So that's what the think that is right. So that's what the point he's making here. It's not also to point he's making here. It's not also to point he's making here. It's not also to say that every single person at that say that every single person at that say that every single person at that rally is branding, you know, hijacking rally is branding, you know, hijacking rally is branding, you know, hijacking it cuz I'm sure a lot of them have great it cuz I'm sure a lot of them have great it cuz I'm sure a lot of them have great intentions and stuff. But I think Nick, intentions and stuff. But I think Nick, intentions and stuff. But I think Nick, who is the leader, who is putting this who is the leader, who is putting this who is the leader, who is putting this all together, the I think the buck does all together, the I think the buck does all together, the I think the buck does stop with him a little bit in that

  11. stop with him a little bit in that stop with him a little bit in that sense. sense. sense. >> or a campaign strategy. It is something >> or a campaign strategy. It is something >> or a campaign strategy. It is something personal, sacred, and crucially personal, sacred, and crucially personal, sacred, and crucially independent of party politics. independent of party politics. independent of party politics. My faith guides everything that I do. So My faith guides everything that I do. So My faith guides everything that I do. So what JJ is saying, ladies and gentlemen, what JJ is saying, ladies and gentlemen, what JJ is saying, ladies and gentlemen, is that if you're Catholic, if you're is that if you're Catholic, if you're is that if you're Catholic, if you're socially conservative, Anglican, socially conservative, Anglican, socially conservative, Anglican, Baptist, Methodist, Evangelical, you Baptist, Methodist, Evangelical, you Baptist, Methodist, Evangelical, you can't be involved in politics. Mate, can't be involved in politics. Mate, can't be involved in politics. Mate, that's not what he said. Again, it's that's not what he said. Again, it's that's not what he said. Again, it's it's this it's this just seeing the it's this it's this just seeing the it's this it's this just seeing the worst side of what someone says and go worst side of what someone says and go worst side of what someone says and go with that. Like he's not seen He's not with that. Like he's not seen He's not with that. Like he's not seen He's not saying, "Oh, that's a good point, but saying, "Oh, that's a good point, but saying, "Oh, that's a good point, but mate, you got this wrong." No, he's mate, you got this wrong." No, he's mate, you got this wrong." No, he's saying every single possible thing that saying every single possible thing that saying every single possible thing that I think you've said, you said, and I think you've said, you said, and I think you've said, you said, and you're a heretic. you're a heretic. you're a heretic. Like you you can't You got to steel man Like you you can't You got to steel man Like you you can't You got to steel man someone's argument, not straw man them. someone's argument, not straw man them. someone's argument, not straw man them. But he's just doing the complete But he's just doing the complete But he's just doing the complete opposite. opposite. opposite. That's what JJ is saying. Word for word, That's what JJ is saying. Word for word, That's what JJ is saying. Word for word, JJ is saying that. JJ is saying that. JJ is saying that. Um He goes on to say, "It is something Um He goes on to say, "It is something Um He goes on to say, "It is something personal, sacred, and crucially personal, sacred, and crucially personal, sacred, and crucially independent of party politics. Seeing it independent of party politics. Seeing it independent of party politics. Seeing it co-opted in this way feels like co-opted in this way feels like co-opted in this way feels like representation and more like representation and more like representation and more like exploitation. Every one of you on the exploitation. Every one of you on the exploitation. Every one of you on the march today will have a prayer book.

  12. march today will have a prayer book. march today will have a prayer book. You've got them in your hands. You've got them in your hands. You've got them in your hands. Everything in there is scripture. Everything in there is scripture. Everything in there is scripture. Everything in there is chapter and Everything in there is chapter and Everything in there is chapter and verse. And JJ, a devout Catholic who verse. And JJ, a devout Catholic who verse. And JJ, a devout Catholic who works for the Express, is calling you works for the Express, is calling you works for the Express, is calling you someone who has co-opted the religion someone who has co-opted the religion someone who has co-opted the religion for your own personal political gain. I for your own personal political gain. I for your own personal political gain. I think that is absolutely disgusting. And think that is absolutely disgusting. And think that is absolutely disgusting. And this man works for the Express. this man works for the Express. this man works for the Express. He has a big voice and potentially a lot He has a big voice and potentially a lot He has a big voice and potentially a lot of influence. of influence. of influence. It is worth remembering, he says. Wait It is worth remembering, he says. Wait It is worth remembering, he says. Wait for it. You know what's coming. for it. You know what's coming. for it. You know what's coming. In true lefty fashion, it is worth In true lefty fashion, it is worth In true lefty fashion, it is worth remembering that Jesus himself was in remembering that Jesus himself was in remembering that Jesus himself was in many respects a refugee. many respects a refugee. many respects a refugee. Now, patriots, this is where I start to Now, patriots, this is where I start to Now, patriots, this is where I start to get angry. get angry. get angry. I'll go on. Someone who fled danger, who I'll go on. Someone who fled danger, who I'll go on. Someone who fled danger, who lived on the margins, and who constantly lived on the margins, and who constantly lived on the margins, and who constantly sided with the vulnerable over the sided with the vulnerable over the sided with the vulnerable over the powerful. I'm I'm so fascinated to see powerful. I'm I'm so fascinated to see powerful. I'm I'm so fascinated to see the mental gymnastics Nick does here. the mental gymnastics Nick does here. the mental gymnastics Nick does here. Like what is he going to come out with? Like what is he going to come out with? Like what is he going to come out with? Is he going to say No, he wasn't a Is he going to say No, he wasn't a Is he going to say No, he wasn't a refugee? What's he going to say? Is he refugee? What's he going to say? Is he refugee? What's he going to say? Is he going to say No, he didn't go for the going to say No, he didn't go for the going to say No, he didn't go for the vulnerable? He didn't go and be an olive vulnerable? He didn't go and be an olive vulnerable? He didn't go and be an olive branch to those that were persecuted, branch to those that were persecuted, branch to those that were persecuted, the begotten, the oppressed, the the begotten, the oppressed, the the begotten, the oppressed, the marginalized? What What mental marginalized? What What mental marginalized? What What mental gymnastics is he going to come out with gymnastics is he going to come out with gymnastics is he going to come out with here to somehow deflect from these vital here to somehow deflect from these vital here to somehow deflect from these vital points that our Lord Jesus Christ was a points that our Lord Jesus Christ was a points that our Lord Jesus Christ was a refugee. He He did flee conflict. He did refugee. He He did flee conflict. He did refugee. He He did flee conflict. He did not stay in one place. He did go to the not stay in one place. He did go to the not stay in one place. He did go to the margins. He did go to the people margins. He did go to the people margins. He did go to the people everyone hated. He did speak to Romans.

  13. everyone hated. He did speak to Romans. everyone hated. He did speak to Romans. He did say say love your enemy. He did He did say say love your enemy. He did He did say say love your enemy. He did You know, I'm not to say that there's You know, I'm not to say that there's You know, I'm not to say that there's not righteous anger. He flipped the not righteous anger. He flipped the not righteous anger. He flipped the tables, you know. tables, you know. tables, you know. But again, one of the reasons about that But again, one of the reasons about that But again, one of the reasons about that was because it was where everyone could was because it was where everyone could was because it was where everyone could worship. And he was like, you know, worship. And he was like, you know, worship. And he was like, you know, "This is the only place where Gentiles "This is the only place where Gentiles "This is the only place where Gentiles can worship and you'll turn this into a can worship and you'll turn this into a can worship and you'll turn this into a den of, you know, money money den of, you know, money money den of, you know, money money exchanging and this is my Lord's house. exchanging and this is my Lord's house. exchanging and this is my Lord's house. His Lord's house." His Sorry, his His Lord's house." His Sorry, his His Lord's house." His Sorry, his father's house, you know. Again, claim father's house, you know. Again, claim father's house, you know. Again, claim that divinity. that divinity. that divinity. So it'd be interesting to see what Nick So it'd be interesting to see what Nick So it'd be interesting to see what Nick comes out with here because comes out with here because comes out with here because I I I Yeah, I'll be I'm very interested, Yeah, I'll be I'm very interested, Yeah, I'll be I'm very interested, actually. To invoke his name in support actually. To invoke his name in support actually. To invoke his name in support of hard-edged political agendas is not of hard-edged political agendas is not of hard-edged political agendas is not just ironic, it is a distortion. As I just ironic, it is a distortion. As I just ironic, it is a distortion. As I said, patriots, at that point I get said, patriots, at that point I get said, patriots, at that point I get angry. So to you, JJ, I say this. If you angry. So to you, JJ, I say this. If you angry. So to you, JJ, I say this. If you were a man, you would have rung me up. were a man, you would have rung me up. were a man, you would have rung me up. It's not hard to find me. You've also It's not hard to find me. You've also It's not hard to find me. You've also probably seen the advert. You could be probably seen the advert. You could be probably seen the advert. You could be You work for the Express. You could You work for the Express. You could You work for the Express. You could probably have been here. You could have probably have been here. You could have probably have been here. You could have called me up. You could have DM'd me. called me up. You could have DM'd me. called me up. You could have DM'd me. You could have asked me. But no, you You could have asked me. But no, you You could have asked me. But no, you printed this filth and you've insulted printed this filth and you've insulted printed this filth and you've insulted billions of Catholics and Christians billions of Catholics and Christians billions of Catholics and Christians across the world. So I will close by across the world. So I will close by across the world. So I will close by saying this.

  14. saying this. saying this. And I will compose myself at this point. And I will compose myself at this point. And I will compose myself at this point. To you, JJ, and to the left, To you, JJ, and to the left, To you, JJ, and to the left, please stop minimizing God as a refugee. please stop minimizing God as a refugee. please stop minimizing God as a refugee. That is to say that Jesus was a That is to say that Jesus was a That is to say that Jesus was a preacher. preacher. preacher. The word made flesh was a man who walked The word made flesh was a man who walked The word made flesh was a man who walked the earth. He was a good guy. He was You the earth. He was a good guy. He was You the earth. He was a good guy. He was You can see it in liberal parishes, can't can see it in liberal parishes, can't can see it in liberal parishes, can't you? He was a teacher. He was a pastor. you? He was a teacher. He was a pastor. you? He was a teacher. He was a pastor. Real good guy. Healed the sick. And he's Real good guy. Healed the sick. And he's Real good guy. Healed the sick. And he's going to make it hippy. Make it going to make it hippy. Make it going to make it hippy. Make it trending. trending. trending. Our Lord and Savior, JJ, Jesus Christ, Our Lord and Savior, JJ, Jesus Christ, Our Lord and Savior, JJ, Jesus Christ, the word made flesh, the word incarnate, the word made flesh, the word incarnate, the word made flesh, the word incarnate, is the son of man. God. is the son of man. God. is the son of man. God. Why are you referring to him as a Why are you referring to him as a Why are you referring to him as a refugee? refugee? refugee? Mate, that's not a dispute. You're not Mate, that's not a dispute. You're not Mate, that's not a dispute. You're not saying he's not a refugee. You're just saying he's not a refugee. You're just saying he's not a refugee. You're just saying why you're referring to him. And saying why you're referring to him. And saying why you're referring to him. And bear in mind, it's just one little bear in mind, it's just one little bear in mind, it's just one little section he calls him a refugee. That's section he calls him a refugee. That's section he calls him a refugee. That's not a That's not a rebuttal saying why not a That's not a rebuttal saying why not a That's not a rebuttal saying why you're referring to him as a refugee. you're referring to him as a refugee. you're referring to him as a refugee. You're not even denying it's true. You're not even denying it's true. You're not even denying it's true. Like I've got at least you saying, "No, Like I've got at least you saying, "No, Like I've got at least you saying, "No, that wasn't true. The translation from that wasn't true. The translation from that wasn't true. The translation from Greek was incorrect." Or some something Greek was incorrect." Or some something Greek was incorrect." Or some something you would make up. But this I mean, you would make up. But this I mean, you would make up. But this I mean, you're not even denying it, mate. What you're not even denying it, mate. What you're not even denying it, mate. What is this?

  15. is this? is this? You've put a left-wing Marxist political You've put a left-wing Marxist political You've put a left-wing Marxist political agenda onto your description of our Lord agenda onto your description of our Lord agenda onto your description of our Lord and Savior whilst calling us out as the and Savior whilst calling us out as the and Savior whilst calling us out as the bad guys, as people who are co-opting. bad guys, as people who are co-opting. bad guys, as people who are co-opting. Now, there's a lot more that I could go Now, there's a lot more that I could go Now, there's a lot more that I could go into. But JJ, into. But JJ, into. But JJ, I promise you on everything that's holy, I promise you on everything that's holy, I promise you on everything that's holy, we will take power. The Christian block we will take power. The Christian block we will take power. The Christian block vote will establish through my vote will establish through my vote will establish through my leadership but through the people, the leadership but through the people, the leadership but through the people, the 30 million Christians that aren't fake, 30 million Christians that aren't fake, 30 million Christians that aren't fake, that aren't heretics, that aren't that aren't heretics, that aren't that aren't heretics, that aren't apostates, that aren't liberals, actual apostates, that aren't liberals, actual apostates, that aren't liberals, actual Christians. Christians. Christians. And your Christianity, JJ, is massively And your Christianity, JJ, is massively And your Christianity, JJ, is massively up for debate as a devout Catholic. up for debate as a devout Catholic. up for debate as a devout Catholic. We'll see about that. We'll see about that. We'll see about that. But we will rise and we will create the But we will rise and we will create the But we will rise and we will create the Christian block vote. Thanks be to God, Christian block vote. Thanks be to God, Christian block vote. Thanks be to God, patriots. And we will reinstate patriots. And we will reinstate patriots. And we will reinstate Christianity into that building over Christianity into that building over Christianity into that building over there. And JJ, maybe you want to use there. And JJ, maybe you want to use there. And JJ, maybe you want to use your column to write more about ending your column to write more about ending your column to write more about ending abortion than slandering Christians who abortion than slandering Christians who abortion than slandering Christians who are simply Come and take a look at our are simply Come and take a look at our are simply Come and take a look at our prayer book. Simply being devout and prayer book. Simply being devout and prayer book. Simply being devout and simply being prayerful to the one true simply being prayerful to the one true simply being prayerful to the one true God of the one true faith. That is our God of the one true faith. That is our God of the one true faith. That is our to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

  16. to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Thank you all for list listening, JJ. Thank you all for list listening, JJ. Thank you all for list listening, JJ. Shame on you, JJ. Shame on you. Shame on you, JJ. Shame on you. Shame on you, JJ. Shame on you. Yeah, so there we go. I mean, what an Yeah, so there we go. I mean, what an Yeah, so there we go. I mean, what an absolutely ludicrous video. Ridiculous absolutely ludicrous video. Ridiculous absolutely ludicrous video. Ridiculous rebuttal. rebuttal. rebuttal. Um didn't even deny that Jesus wasn't a Um didn't even deny that Jesus wasn't a Um didn't even deny that Jesus wasn't a refugee and didn't even deny what he refugee and didn't even deny what he refugee and didn't even deny what he said about who he reached out to. Didn't said about who he reached out to. Didn't said about who he reached out to. Didn't address any of that. Simply said he was address any of that. Simply said he was address any of that. Simply said he was somehow lefty, woke. Again, don't somehow lefty, woke. Again, don't somehow lefty, woke. Again, don't address Don't address what he says address Don't address what he says address Don't address what he says remotely. Just call him names just like remotely. Just call him names just like remotely. Just call him names just like left-wing people do to right-wing left-wing people do to right-wing left-wing people do to right-wing people. Call everyone racist. You are people. Call everyone racist. You are people. Call everyone racist. You are doing the exact thing you are against. doing the exact thing you are against. doing the exact thing you are against. Yeah, there we go. Number four of Tank Yeah, there we go. Number four of Tank Yeah, there we go. Number four of Tank Engine Tuesdays. I hope you did enjoy Engine Tuesdays. I hope you did enjoy Engine Tuesdays. I hope you did enjoy this video. You know, my love goes to this video. You know, my love goes to this video. You know, my love goes to Nick. I hope God moves his heart. I Nick. I hope God moves his heart. I Nick. I hope God moves his heart. I hope, you know, he has some sort of hope, you know, he has some sort of hope, you know, he has some sort of awakening experience where he realizes awakening experience where he realizes awakening experience where he realizes the nonsense he's pushing here. the nonsense he's pushing here. the nonsense he's pushing here. Um and God bless him and anyone who Um and God bless him and anyone who Um and God bless him and anyone who supports UKIP, you know, I I hope God supports UKIP, you know, I I hope God supports UKIP, you know, I I hope God moves in your heart. And um I would just moves in your heart. And um I would just moves in your heart. And um I would just say simply to people who are Just look say simply to people who are Just look say simply to people who are Just look into the historical Jesus. Look into who into the historical Jesus. Look into who into the historical Jesus. Look into who Jesus was. Not Not who you want him to Jesus was. Not Not who you want him to Jesus was. Not Not who you want him to be. Not who he fits your political be. Not who he fits your political be. Not who he fits your political worldview. Look into who Jesus was, what worldview. Look into who Jesus was, what worldview. Look into who Jesus was, what he said. Read Josephus. You know, he said. Read Josephus. You know, he said. Read Josephus. You know, research Jesus. Who was he? Who did he research Jesus. Who was he? Who did he research Jesus. Who was he? Who did he speak to? What did he say? You know, speak to? What did he say? You know, speak to? What did he say? You know, like obviously we got the gospels and like obviously we got the gospels and like obviously we got the gospels and the Bible and everything. But literally the Bible and everything. But literally the Bible and everything. But literally just look into like the historical man just look into like the historical man just look into like the historical man of Jesus. You know, what like what did of Jesus. You know, what like what did of Jesus. You know, what like what did the Jews think back then? And what did the Jews think back then? And what did the Jews think back then? And what did Jesus say? And if you read that and if Jesus say? And if you read that and if Jesus say? And if you read that and if you really look into all of it and you you really look into all of it and you you really look into all of it and you get to the point conclusion that Jesus get to the point conclusion that Jesus get to the point conclusion that Jesus would be for the poor and people who he

  17. would be for the poor and people who he would be for the poor and people who he disagrees with and he was before an disagrees with and he was before an disagrees with and he was before an authoritarian kind of theocratic authoritarian kind of theocratic authoritarian kind of theocratic Christian state, then, you know, Christian state, then, you know, Christian state, then, you know, if you generally with all your heart if you generally with all your heart if you generally with all your heart believe that, fair enough. believe that, fair enough. believe that, fair enough. But do look into it cuz I do not know But do look into it cuz I do not know But do look into it cuz I do not know how you get to those conclusions, Nick, how you get to those conclusions, Nick, how you get to those conclusions, Nick, mate. mate. mate. Um based on the who Jesus was and said Um based on the who Jesus was and said Um based on the who Jesus was and said and did and and did and and did and I I don't understand it. But um yeah, I I don't understand it. But um yeah, I I don't understand it. But um yeah, God bless all of you. Hope you did enjoy God bless all of you. Hope you did enjoy God bless all of you. Hope you did enjoy and I'll see you on the next one pretty and I'll see you on the next one pretty and I'll see you on the next one pretty soon.

Summary

This transcript discusses the UKIP leader, Nick Griffin, and criticizes journalist JJ Obeid from the Daily Express for an article about Griffin's "March with Jesus." The core argument is that Obeid, despite being a Catholic who should value spiritual guidance over worldly fame, unfairly labels those with socially conservative, patriotic views as "woke snowflakes" if they don't align with Griffin's strict ideology. The practical takeaway is a call for individuals, particularly those with a public voice, to be more nuanced and truthful in their reporting, rather than resorting to personal attacks or rigid ideological litmus tests.

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