From Christian To Atheist (Heart Breaking Deconversion)

I have never loved anyone as much as I I have never loved anyone as much as I loved Jesus. loved Jesus. loved Jesus. And losing him was losing my purpose, And losing him was losing my purpose, And losing him was losing my purpose, losing my truest friend, and losing my losing my truest friend, and losing my losing my truest friend, and losing my aim in life. And that sucked. I would aim in life. And that sucked. I would aim in life. And that sucked. I would say that there was not, you know, one say that there was not, you know, one say that there was not, you know, one specific thing. Um, it was a a whole specific thing. Um, it was a a whole specific thing. Um, it was a a whole host of things, right? Because I believe host of things, right? Because I believe host of things, right? Because I believe that belief is a tapestry. um nobody that belief is a tapestry. um nobody that belief is a tapestry. um nobody believes in this or that or or or nobody believes in this or that or or or nobody believes in this or that or or or nobody believes in Christianity because of one believes in Christianity because of one believes in Christianity because of one thing, right? It's well it's because of thing, right? It's well it's because of thing, right? It's well it's because of you know the historical resurrection for you know the historical resurrection for you know the historical resurrection for the the uh the historical case for the the the uh the historical case for the the the uh the historical case for the resurrection um or it's you know the um resurrection um or it's you know the um resurrection um or it's you know the um the case for the inherency of scripture the case for the inherency of scripture the case for the inherency of scripture or the philosophical arguments the colum or the philosophical arguments the colum or the philosophical arguments the colum cosmological cos colum cosmological cosmological cos colum cosmological cosmological cos colum cosmological argument they should shorten that um argument they should shorten that um argument they should shorten that um and you know kind of one by one I think and you know kind of one by one I think and you know kind of one by one I think that tapestry kind of became a little that tapestry kind of became a little that tapestry kind of became a little bit bit bit frayed right Now, the actual specific frayed right Now, the actual specific frayed right Now, the actual specific reasons of why I'm not a Christian and reasons of why I'm not a Christian and reasons of why I'm not a Christian and why I'm an atheist, um, I don't like to why I'm an atheist, um, I don't like to why I'm an atheist, um, I don't like to get into it. I don't like to answer get into it. I don't like to answer get into it. I don't like to answer those questions usually, those questions usually, those questions usually, >> uh, at least not in a public context.

>> uh, at least not in a public context. >> uh, at least not in a public context. One, because I don't enjoy One, because I don't enjoy One, because I don't enjoy introducing doubt to people. Um, decon introducing doubt to people. Um, decon introducing doubt to people. Um, decon conversion for me and becoming an conversion for me and becoming an conversion for me and becoming an atheist was one of the most painful atheist was one of the most painful atheist was one of the most painful things I ever went through. And I don't things I ever went through. And I don't things I ever went through. And I don't want to impose that on somebody if want to impose that on somebody if want to impose that on somebody if they're not ready for it. Now, if they're not ready for it. Now, if they're not ready for it. Now, if they're in a a particular denomination they're in a a particular denomination they're in a a particular denomination or a sect or a cult that is or a sect or a cult that is or a sect or a cult that is that is killing them inside that is killing them inside that is killing them inside um that is making them feel suicidal or um that is making them feel suicidal or um that is making them feel suicidal or you know they hate themselves because of you know they hate themselves because of you know they hate themselves because of their sexuality or uh you know the the their sexuality or uh you know the the their sexuality or uh you know the the fear of hell is overwhelming. if they fear of hell is overwhelming. if they fear of hell is overwhelming. if they have a faith that is, you know, truly have a faith that is, you know, truly have a faith that is, you know, truly cancerous to their soul, then yeah, I'll cancerous to their soul, then yeah, I'll cancerous to their soul, then yeah, I'll I'll talk you through that and I'm happy I'll talk you through that and I'm happy I'll talk you through that and I'm happy to to help you walk through that journey to to help you walk through that journey to to help you walk through that journey and leave. But by and large, that's not and leave. But by and large, that's not and leave. But by and large, that's not my MO. my MO. my MO. >> Wow. What a powerful testimony of decon >> Wow. What a powerful testimony of decon >> Wow. What a powerful testimony of decon conversion there. And I think there's conversion there. And I think there's conversion there. And I think there's there's been people, and I'm sure you there's been people, and I'm sure you there's been people, and I'm sure you can relate to this, like I have people can relate to this, like I have people can relate to this, like I have people in my life where they'll say something in my life where they'll say something in my life where they'll say something that I know isn't true, that has been that I know isn't true, that has been that I know isn't true, that has been completely disproven. Maybe it's a completely disproven. Maybe it's a completely disproven. Maybe it's a Christian apologetic tool. Like people Christian apologetic tool. Like people Christian apologetic tool. Like people say, "Oh, they've been, you know, Jesus say, "Oh, they've been, you know, Jesus say, "Oh, they've been, you know, Jesus was seen by 500 people." And while I'm was seen by 500 people." And while I'm was seen by 500 people." And while I'm I'm not denying that couldn't be true, I'm not denying that couldn't be true, I'm not denying that couldn't be true, the same principles of believing that the same principles of believing that the same principles of believing that true, they won't apply to other faiths, true, they won't apply to other faiths, true, they won't apply to other faiths, may that be Islam, whether be Mormonism.

may that be Islam, whether be Mormonism. may that be Islam, whether be Mormonism. And it, you know, when you have power to And it, you know, when you have power to And it, you know, when you have power to enforce doubt on someone, it's a really enforce doubt on someone, it's a really enforce doubt on someone, it's a really difficult discernment to make. And there difficult discernment to make. And there difficult discernment to make. And there was somebody I was speaking to recently was somebody I was speaking to recently was somebody I was speaking to recently where they were saying a bunch of stuff. where they were saying a bunch of stuff. where they were saying a bunch of stuff. And I was gonna pose the question of And I was gonna pose the question of And I was gonna pose the question of certain things, but I didn't because I certain things, but I didn't because I certain things, but I didn't because I knew that if I said what I said, that knew that if I said what I said, that knew that if I said what I said, that would make their world fall down. would make their world fall down. would make their world fall down. Everything they knew would just collapse Everything they knew would just collapse Everything they knew would just collapse because they didn't really know what because they didn't really know what because they didn't really know what they were saying. And I think this is they were saying. And I think this is they were saying. And I think this is one of the most difficult things about one of the most difficult things about one of the most difficult things about people who live in blissful ignorance. people who live in blissful ignorance. people who live in blissful ignorance. Saying to them something that is true, Saying to them something that is true, Saying to them something that is true, that could hurt their view, that gives that could hurt their view, that gives that could hurt their view, that gives them meaning, that gives them purpose, them meaning, that gives them purpose, them meaning, that gives them purpose, it could break that. And I think the the it could break that. And I think the the it could break that. And I think the the danger and the thing as Christians that danger and the thing as Christians that danger and the thing as Christians that we must not do is prop up that blissful we must not do is prop up that blissful we must not do is prop up that blissful ignorance. And this is what my show is ignorance. And this is what my show is ignorance. And this is what my show is trying to be about. You know, I say if I trying to be about. You know, I say if I trying to be about. You know, I say if I come across a video that says something come across a video that says something come across a video that says something that I'm like, whoa, about atonement or that I'm like, whoa, about atonement or that I'm like, whoa, about atonement or something and I'll speak about it. I'm something and I'll speak about it. I'm something and I'll speak about it. I'm saying that because I want you to saying that because I want you to saying that because I want you to experience what I'm experiencing. I want experience what I'm experiencing. I want experience what I'm experiencing. I want you to know that when I say something I you to know that when I say something I you to know that when I say something I believe to be true, you know that from believe to be true, you know that from believe to be true, you know that from my heart, I believe this to be true. I'm my heart, I believe this to be true. I'm my heart, I believe this to be true. I'm not living in blissful ignorance. I'm not living in blissful ignorance. I'm not living in blissful ignorance. I'm not duping you into believing it. And not duping you into believing it. And not duping you into believing it. And for so many people, their worldview and for so many people, their worldview and for so many people, their worldview and what they have built is just based on what they have built is just based on what they have built is just based on people pushing them into confirmation people pushing them into confirmation people pushing them into confirmation bias into things they they want to be bias into things they they want to be bias into things they they want to be true. And then a bunch of people saying, true. And then a bunch of people saying, true. And then a bunch of people saying, "Well, no, that is true." When actually "Well, no, that is true." When actually "Well, no, that is true." When actually it's not true. And they've kind of duped it's not true. And they've kind of duped it's not true. And they've kind of duped you into that. And some people feel like

you into that. And some people feel like you into that. And some people feel like that's kind of the best thing for the that's kind of the best thing for the that's kind of the best thing for the person and basically they're doing a person and basically they're doing a person and basically they're doing a service to God or whoever. But that is service to God or whoever. But that is service to God or whoever. But that is that's not that's not real faith, ladies that's not that's not real faith, ladies that's not that's not real faith, ladies and gentlemen. And I think one thing to and gentlemen. And I think one thing to and gentlemen. And I think one thing to hold on to is, you know, God is big hold on to is, you know, God is big hold on to is, you know, God is big enough not to want us to live in enough not to want us to live in enough not to want us to live in blissful ignorance. We don't need to blissful ignorance. We don't need to blissful ignorance. We don't need to make up things to defend God. We don't make up things to defend God. We don't make up things to defend God. We don't need to, you know, if Jesus of Nazareth need to, you know, if Jesus of Nazareth need to, you know, if Jesus of Nazareth was God, we don't need to make up stuff. was God, we don't need to make up stuff. was God, we don't need to make up stuff. And for so many people deconvert, that's And for so many people deconvert, that's And for so many people deconvert, that's that's the key thing. It's these that's the key thing. It's these that's the key thing. It's these falsities that they are told. And when falsities that they are told. And when falsities that they are told. And when you know someone pulls the rug you know someone pulls the rug you know someone pulls the rug underneath it, everything collapses with underneath it, everything collapses with underneath it, everything collapses with it. And I don't have all the answers. I it. And I don't have all the answers. I it. And I don't have all the answers. I really don't. But I do really believe really don't. But I do really believe really don't. But I do really believe Jesus was God. And I don't want to live Jesus was God. And I don't want to live Jesus was God. And I don't want to live in bliss or ignorance. And I I don't in bliss or ignorance. And I I don't in bliss or ignorance. And I I don't want any of you to either. And that's want any of you to either. And that's want any of you to either. And that's what I'm trying to do with this channel. what I'm trying to do with this channel. what I'm trying to do with this channel. So, thank you for being here, first of So, thank you for being here, first of So, thank you for being here, first of all. But yeah, we'll hear more of this all. But yeah, we'll hear more of this all. But yeah, we'll hear more of this deconversion. deconversion. deconversion. >> I think that I've found that apologists >> I think that I've found that apologists >> I think that I've found that apologists are often bad stewards of that are often bad stewards of that are often bad stewards of that information. information. information. >> Um, and I've seen them be very >> Um, and I've seen them be very >> Um, and I've seen them be very uncharitable with that. So, if I were to uncharitable with that. So, if I were to uncharitable with that. So, if I were to say, well, I don't believe in the say, well, I don't believe in the say, well, I don't believe in the historicity of the resurrection, historicity of the resurrection, historicity of the resurrection, you know, I can anticipate the, you you know, I can anticipate the, you you know, I can anticipate the, you know, 12 response videos immediately. Or know, 12 response videos immediately. Or know, 12 response videos immediately. Or I could, you know, anticipate somebody I could, you know, anticipate somebody I could, you know, anticipate somebody running up to me and saying like, "But running up to me and saying like, "But running up to me and saying like, "But you're you're have you read this book?

you're you're have you read this book? you're you're have you read this book? Have you have you done this or that?" Have you have you done this or that?" Have you have you done this or that?" And I'm just not interested in having And I'm just not interested in having And I'm just not interested in having those conversations anymore. I want to those conversations anymore. I want to those conversations anymore. I want to hear about why Jesus Christ is the most hear about why Jesus Christ is the most hear about why Jesus Christ is the most beautiful thing in your life. beautiful thing in your life. beautiful thing in your life. Now, I could guess, but I don't want to Now, I could guess, but I don't want to Now, I could guess, but I don't want to guess. You said it's guess. You said it's guess. You said it's Correct my words if they're not right. Correct my words if they're not right. Correct my words if they're not right. The most painful thing you've been The most painful thing you've been The most painful thing you've been through? through? through? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> As much as you're comfortable, what made >> As much as you're comfortable, what made >> As much as you're comfortable, what made it so painful? it so painful? it so painful? >> Great question. >> Great question. >> Great question. >> I have never loved anyone as much as I >> I have never loved anyone as much as I >> I have never loved anyone as much as I loved Jesus. loved Jesus. loved Jesus. And losing him was losing my purpose, And losing him was losing my purpose, And losing him was losing my purpose, losing my truest friend, and losing my losing my truest friend, and losing my losing my truest friend, and losing my aim in life. And that sucked. aim in life. And that sucked. aim in life. And that sucked. It sounds like, if I'm not mistaken, It sounds like, if I'm not mistaken, It sounds like, if I'm not mistaken, you wish Christianity were true. You you wish Christianity were true. You you wish Christianity were true. You would want it to be true. would want it to be true. would want it to be true. Or am I putting words in your mouth when Or am I putting words in your mouth when Or am I putting words in your mouth when I say that? Or a certain understanding I say that? Or a certain understanding I say that? Or a certain understanding of Jesus, you wish you were true. Like of Jesus, you wish you were true. Like of Jesus, you wish you were true. Like what what Jesus would be? Because what what Jesus would be? Because what what Jesus would be? Because obviously people are going to debate obviously people are going to debate obviously people are going to debate about who Jesus is and what he taught about who Jesus is and what he taught about who Jesus is and what he taught and we could go back and forth on that.

and we could go back and forth on that. and we could go back and forth on that. >> Not interesting in this conversation. >> Not interesting in this conversation. >> Not interesting in this conversation. >> Yeah. But what is it about Jesus that's >> Yeah. But what is it about Jesus that's >> Yeah. But what is it about Jesus that's so captivating to you? And do you really so captivating to you? And do you really so captivating to you? And do you really wish that that were true but just can't wish that that were true but just can't wish that that were true but just can't believe it? believe it? believe it? >> I would say that you know Jesus as he's >> I would say that you know Jesus as he's >> I would say that you know Jesus as he's presented in the Gospel of John, right? presented in the Gospel of John, right? presented in the Gospel of John, right? I love that story. I think it's so I love that story. I think it's so I love that story. I think it's so awesome and cool. Um awesome and cool. Um awesome and cool. Um >> it's my favorite book by the way. >> it's my favorite book by the way. >> it's my favorite book by the way. >> 100% 100%. Well, now that I'm an >> 100% 100%. Well, now that I'm an >> 100% 100%. Well, now that I'm an atheist, mine is Ecclesiastes. Uh, atheist, mine is Ecclesiastes. Uh, atheist, mine is Ecclesiastes. Uh, [applause] that's good. that's good. [laughter] >> Reron, is Jesus God? >> Reron, is Jesus God? >> Yes. Is God perfect? Yes. >> Yes. Is God perfect? Yes. >> Yes. Is God perfect? Yes. >> Yeah. That's why I love Jesus. >> Yeah. That's why I love Jesus. >> Yeah. That's why I love Jesus. Um, you know, when Paul talks about Um, you know, when Paul talks about Um, you know, when Paul talks about meditating on good, beautiful things, my meditating on good, beautiful things, my meditating on good, beautiful things, my understanding of Jesus was that he was understanding of Jesus was that he was understanding of Jesus was that he was perfection incarnate. And how can you perfection incarnate. And how can you perfection incarnate. And how can you not fall in love with someone like that, not fall in love with someone like that, not fall in love with someone like that, right?

What? So when you you call yourself an What? So when you you call yourself an atheist now, atheist now, atheist now, >> did you go through a period of like I'm >> did you go through a period of like I'm >> did you go through a period of like I'm an agnostic, I'm a deist, or what what an agnostic, I'm a deist, or what what an agnostic, I'm a deist, or what what was that process like to say full-on was that process like to say full-on was that process like to say full-on atheist? atheist? atheist? >> I think that's less interesting, right? >> I think that's less interesting, right? >> I think that's less interesting, right? I mean, I think the oh man, believers I mean, I think the oh man, believers I mean, I think the oh man, believers really want to get hung up on like, really want to get hung up on like, really want to get hung up on like, well, are you agnostic or atheist or I I well, are you agnostic or atheist or I I well, are you agnostic or atheist or I I I I don't think there's a God, right? I I don't think there's a God, right? I I don't think there's a God, right? I'm interested in your journey by the I'm interested in your journey by the I'm interested in your journey by the way, not exactly the 100% 100% but but I way, not exactly the 100% 100% but but I way, not exactly the 100% 100% but but I think that um think that um think that um >> yeah I think it was not quite overnight >> yeah I think it was not quite overnight >> yeah I think it was not quite overnight but you know over the course of a summer but you know over the course of a summer but you know over the course of a summer I think it was you know the big thing I think it was you know the big thing I think it was you know the big thing was hey I don't think Christianity is was hey I don't think Christianity is was hey I don't think Christianity is true. Um, and then kind of separate from true. Um, and then kind of separate from true. Um, and then kind of separate from that, it's like, yeah, I I guess I also that, it's like, yeah, I I guess I also that, it's like, yeah, I I guess I also don't think that um that that that God don't think that um that that that God don't think that um that that that God is true. But yeah, I think it was a is true. But yeah, I think it was a is true. But yeah, I think it was a pretty quick process. pretty quick process. pretty quick process. >> So when you told people presumably >> So when you told people presumably >> So when you told people presumably family, friends, family, friends, family, friends, >> what are some people in your mind, >> what are some people in your mind, >> what are some people in your mind, you're like, you know what, they you're like, you know what, they you're like, you know what, they responded well responded well responded well >> and those are some people you don't have >> and those are some people you don't have >> and those are some people you don't have to name them unless you want to. You're to name them unless you want to. You're to name them unless you want to. You're welcome to. It's like that wasn't welcome to. It's like that wasn't welcome to. It's like that wasn't >> Chick-fil-A. [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> He wrote atheist on the bag, >> He wrote atheist on the bag, >> He wrote atheist on the bag, spat on my chicken. Um, I would say that by and large, um, I would say that by and large, um, the people who responded well

were the ones who were secure in their were the ones who were secure in their faith. >> That's good. Um, let that No, let that's >> That's good. Um, let that No, let that's that's that's good. Let me just say this that's that's good. Let me just say this that's that's good. Let me just say this because because because uh Jared's journey shouldn't threaten uh Jared's journey shouldn't threaten uh Jared's journey shouldn't threaten your faith. your faith. your faith. >> You should be able to to to look at that >> You should be able to to to look at that >> You should be able to to to look at that and every time I think or I study or I and every time I think or I study or I and every time I think or I study or I went down this rabbit hole the other day went down this rabbit hole the other day went down this rabbit hole the other day of all these other theories about Jesus of all these other theories about Jesus of all these other theories about Jesus really being Barabus and these chart really being Barabus and these chart really being Barabus and these chart timelines and I walked away from it like timelines and I walked away from it like timelines and I walked away from it like what? what? what? >> I love Jesus more and I believe more and >> I love Jesus more and I believe more and >> I love Jesus more and I believe more and I'm more confident in my faith. Right? I'm more confident in my faith. Right? I'm more confident in my faith. Right? So Jared's journey and where he's at now So Jared's journey and where he's at now So Jared's journey and where he's at now shouldn't threaten you and and the shouldn't threaten you and and the shouldn't threaten you and and the confidence you have. confidence you have. confidence you have. >> How many people do you know who really >> How many people do you know who really >> How many people do you know who really believe that when you say something that believe that when you say something that believe that when you say something that they don't like, it threatens their they don't like, it threatens their they don't like, it threatens their faith when they hear about Bartman who faith when they hear about Bartman who faith when they hear about Bartman who went from atheist to sorry Christian to went from atheist to sorry Christian to went from atheist to sorry Christian to atheist who thinks Jesus didn't claim to atheist who thinks Jesus didn't claim to atheist who thinks Jesus didn't claim to be God. one of an an absolute phenomenal be God. one of an an absolute phenomenal be God. one of an an absolute phenomenal historian. When they hear him, they historian. When they hear him, they historian. When they hear him, they think that threatens their faith. When think that threatens their faith. When think that threatens their faith. When they hear some absolute genius say God they hear some absolute genius say God they hear some absolute genius say God doesn't exist, how many people think doesn't exist, how many people think doesn't exist, how many people think that threatens their faith? Whatever it that threatens their faith? Whatever it that threatens their faith? Whatever it is, the amount of people who think that is, the amount of people who think that is, the amount of people who think that when they hear stuff they don't like or when they hear stuff they don't like or when they hear stuff they don't like or decon conversions or whatever it is, decon conversions or whatever it is, decon conversions or whatever it is, they think that is somehow they think that is somehow they think that is somehow a dagger to their faith. that's somehow a dagger to their faith. that's somehow a dagger to their faith. that's somehow something that is almost penicious or

something that is almost penicious or something that is almost penicious or evil. You know, guard your heart or evil. You know, guard your heart or evil. You know, guard your heart or guard your head. You know, the amount of guard your head. You know, the amount of guard your head. You know, the amount of people who who generally believe that is people who who generally believe that is people who who generally believe that is phenomenal. So many people don't want to phenomenal. So many people don't want to phenomenal. So many people don't want to find out what's true. It's it's a sad find out what's true. It's it's a sad find out what's true. It's it's a sad reality of life. But ladies and reality of life. But ladies and reality of life. But ladies and gentlemen, this goes across the board gentlemen, this goes across the board gentlemen, this goes across the board from politics to religion. Like people from politics to religion. Like people from politics to religion. Like people don't want to find out what's true. They don't want to find out what's true. They don't want to find out what's true. They want to find out what fits their want to find out what fits their want to find out what fits their worldview and they want to go from that worldview and they want to go from that worldview and they want to go from that place to find out stuff. They don't go place to find out stuff. They don't go place to find out stuff. They don't go from place of objective truth. And I from place of objective truth. And I from place of objective truth. And I just want to make clear, I'm no saint just want to make clear, I'm no saint just want to make clear, I'm no saint either. When I look at stuff, I either. When I look at stuff, I either. When I look at stuff, I obviously have a ginormous bias. I do obviously have a ginormous bias. I do obviously have a ginormous bias. I do believe Jesus is God. I'm a Christian. I believe Jesus is God. I'm a Christian. I believe Jesus is God. I'm a Christian. I go to church. When I look at sources go to church. When I look at sources go to church. When I look at sources around the manuscripts and inherencies around the manuscripts and inherencies around the manuscripts and inherencies of copying them down through all of copying them down through all of copying them down through all tradition, when I look at that, I have tradition, when I look at that, I have tradition, when I look at that, I have massive bias. When I hear Barman massive bias. When I hear Barman massive bias. When I hear Barman speaking about Isaiah, how he didn't speaking about Isaiah, how he didn't speaking about Isaiah, how he didn't predict Jesus and how it was actually predict Jesus and how it was actually predict Jesus and how it was actually referring to somebody, a king who was referring to somebody, a king who was referring to somebody, a king who was already around. When I hear that, I already around. When I hear that, I already around. When I hear that, I think it's a king already around. I think it's a king already around. I think it's a king already around. I might be mistaken. I'm so sure if I've might be mistaken. I'm so sure if I've might be mistaken. I'm so sure if I've said that wrong. But when I hear that, said that wrong. But when I hear that, said that wrong. But when I hear that, I'm obviously biased in thinking, "Oh, I'm obviously biased in thinking, "Oh, I'm obviously biased in thinking, "Oh, we got it wrong." Well, no. May maybe we got it wrong." Well, no. May maybe we got it wrong." Well, no. May maybe he's right. Maybe Isaiah wasn't talking he's right. Maybe Isaiah wasn't talking he's right. Maybe Isaiah wasn't talking about Jesus. Maybe we we didn't get that about Jesus. Maybe we we didn't get that about Jesus. Maybe we we didn't get that right. Should I then evaluate the rest right. Should I then evaluate the rest right. Should I then evaluate the rest of my belief? Should I then because of my belief? Should I then because of my belief? Should I then because ladies and gentlemen, the Bible was

ladies and gentlemen, the Bible was ladies and gentlemen, the Bible was written by humans. written by humans. written by humans. It was written by humans. You know, the It was written by humans. You know, the It was written by humans. You know, the Gospels were written by humans to a Gospels were written by humans to a Gospels were written by humans to a certain audience. Jews, Gentiles, certain audience. Jews, Gentiles, certain audience. Jews, Gentiles, like we often forget this. Now, I do like we often forget this. Now, I do like we often forget this. Now, I do believe scripture is God breathed as believe scripture is God breathed as believe scripture is God breathed as Timothy says, but similarly that was Timothy says, but similarly that was Timothy says, but similarly that was also written about a human. Do I believe also written about a human. Do I believe also written about a human. Do I believe there are things in the Bible that Jesus there are things in the Bible that Jesus there are things in the Bible that Jesus really did say 1 billion%. Do I believe really did say 1 billion%. Do I believe really did say 1 billion%. Do I believe the Bible is so damn important 100%. Do the Bible is so damn important 100%. Do the Bible is so damn important 100%. Do I believe that there is truth and wisdom I believe that there is truth and wisdom I believe that there is truth and wisdom and insight we can take from anything and insight we can take from anything and insight we can take from anything from Exodus to Leviticus? 1 billion%. Do from Exodus to Leviticus? 1 billion%. Do from Exodus to Leviticus? 1 billion%. Do I really believe that Jesus performed I really believe that Jesus performed I really believe that Jesus performed miracles, was buried, sorry, was miracles, was buried, sorry, was miracles, was buried, sorry, was crucified, was laid in a tomb, and rose crucified, was laid in a tomb, and rose crucified, was laid in a tomb, and rose again? I do truly believe that. Does again? I do truly believe that. Does again? I do truly believe that. Does that mean that every single thing in the that mean that every single thing in the that mean that every single thing in the Bible is 100% true? No. Right. And Bible is 100% true? No. Right. And Bible is 100% true? No. Right. And people who say it is, do they really people who say it is, do they really people who say it is, do they really know what they're talking about? Have know what they're talking about? Have know what they're talking about? Have they really looked at pose and views or they really looked at pose and views or they really looked at pose and views or have they just looked at views they want have they just looked at views they want have they just looked at views they want to be true? Because that is a question, to be true? Because that is a question, to be true? Because that is a question, ladies and gentlemen, that we must all ladies and gentlemen, that we must all ladies and gentlemen, that we must all ask ourselves. And somebody having a ask ourselves. And somebody having a ask ourselves. And somebody having a different view should never threaten our different view should never threaten our different view should never threaten our view, ladies and gentlemen. You know, it view, ladies and gentlemen. You know, it view, ladies and gentlemen. You know, it really shouldn't. I I give the the the really shouldn't. I I give the the the really shouldn't. I I give the the the great example of the exarchchbishop of great example of the exarchchbishop of great example of the exarchchbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, speaking to Canterbury, Rowan Williams, speaking to Canterbury, Rowan Williams, speaking to Richard Dawkins on Uncommon Ground.

Richard Dawkins on Uncommon Ground. Richard Dawkins on Uncommon Ground. Fantastic podcast episode. I'd highly Fantastic podcast episode. I'd highly Fantastic podcast episode. I'd highly suggest listening to it. And when Rowan suggest listening to it. And when Rowan suggest listening to it. And when Rowan speaks to Richard and he explains what speaks to Richard and he explains what speaks to Richard and he explains what he believes Richard Dawkins view to be, he believes Richard Dawkins view to be, he believes Richard Dawkins view to be, and bearing in mind Rich Dawkins and bearing in mind Rich Dawkins and bearing in mind Rich Dawkins obviously the king of atheism and Rome obviously the king of atheism and Rome obviously the king of atheism and Rome Williams, you know, a devout Christian Williams, you know, a devout Christian Williams, you know, a devout Christian for decades. He says what Richard for decades. He says what Richard for decades. He says what Richard Dawkins believes the poetry of reality Dawkins believes the poetry of reality Dawkins believes the poetry of reality without God in a way that was so good without God in a way that was so good without God in a way that was so good that Richard Dawkins said, "You said it that Richard Dawkins said, "You said it that Richard Dawkins said, "You said it better than I could have." See, Rowan better than I could have." See, Rowan better than I could have." See, Rowan isn't afraid of Richard Dawkins. He's isn't afraid of Richard Dawkins. He's isn't afraid of Richard Dawkins. He's not afraid of different views or not afraid of different views or not afraid of different views or historians who know the gospel history historians who know the gospel history historians who know the gospel history and manuscripts better than he does. and manuscripts better than he does. and manuscripts better than he does. He's not afraid of that. He really He's not afraid of that. He really He's not afraid of that. He really believes and he really has looked at it. believes and he really has looked at it. believes and he really has looked at it. And how many Christians do we know who And how many Christians do we know who And how many Christians do we know who don't who live in blissful ignorance who don't who live in blissful ignorance who don't who live in blissful ignorance who who cover themselves who cover themselves who cover themselves who are insecure in what they believe to who are insecure in what they believe to who are insecure in what they believe to the point where they want to ignore the point where they want to ignore the point where they want to ignore information information information you know be careful be careful you know you know be careful be careful you know you know be careful be careful you know guard yourself from the devil if you guard yourself from the devil if you guard yourself from the devil if you think the devil is learning inherencies think the devil is learning inherencies think the devil is learning inherencies in the gospel if you think the devil is in the gospel if you think the devil is in the gospel if you think the devil is you know learning maybe inherencies in you know learning maybe inherencies in you know learning maybe inherencies in the manual manuscripts and things added the manual manuscripts and things added the manual manuscripts and things added to the Bible later or or gospels not to the Bible later or or gospels not to the Bible later or or gospels not included.

included. included. And if you think that's the devil, I I And if you think that's the devil, I I And if you think that's the devil, I I think you don't really know what evil think you don't really know what evil think you don't really know what evil is. If that's if that's your barometer is. If that's if that's your barometer is. If that's if that's your barometer of evil, if that's your barometer of the of evil, if that's your barometer of the of evil, if that's your barometer of the dark side and the the penicious filth of dark side and the the penicious filth of dark side and the the penicious filth of our world, if you think that represents our world, if you think that represents our world, if you think that represents that, I think you have a completely warp that, I think you have a completely warp that, I think you have a completely warp view of what you think evil is. Because view of what you think evil is. Because view of what you think evil is. Because evil is not that, ladies and gentlemen. evil is not that, ladies and gentlemen. evil is not that, ladies and gentlemen. You know, evil is not seeking the truth You know, evil is not seeking the truth You know, evil is not seeking the truth and finding out inconvenience truth. and finding out inconvenience truth. and finding out inconvenience truth. That is not the evil. That is not the That is not the evil. That is not the That is not the evil. That is not the devil. Don't be ridiculous. devil. Don't be ridiculous. devil. Don't be ridiculous. And so many Christians genuinely believe And so many Christians genuinely believe And so many Christians genuinely believe that. You know, I'm sure I'll have that. You know, I'm sure I'll have that. You know, I'm sure I'll have comments on this video that are like, comments on this video that are like, comments on this video that are like, you know, you're a heretic or something you know, you're a heretic or something you know, you're a heretic or something like that because people are intimidated like that because people are intimidated like that because people are intimidated by views that they don't like. It's It's by views that they don't like. It's It's by views that they don't like. It's It's so true. And the more I grow up, I'm 22 so true. And the more I grow up, I'm 22 so true. And the more I grow up, I'm 22 years old. I'm a young little little years old. I'm a young little little years old. I'm a young little little lad.

lad. lad. I see this. I see this on every side. I see this. I see this on every side. I see this. I see this on every side. May that be right-wing people, leftwing May that be right-wing people, leftwing May that be right-wing people, leftwing people, you know, people who are people, you know, people who are people, you know, people who are religious, not religious, like religious, not religious, like religious, not religious, like everywhere I go, I see it. It's everywhere I go, I see it. It's everywhere I go, I see it. It's something that we need to not delve into something that we need to not delve into something that we need to not delve into and not, you know, give our hearts to and not, you know, give our hearts to and not, you know, give our hearts to this nonsense of reality because truth this nonsense of reality because truth this nonsense of reality because truth is so beautiful. And when you go to is so beautiful. And when you go to is so beautiful. And when you go to truth with a genuine heart, it's the truth with a genuine heart, it's the truth with a genuine heart, it's the most liberating thing possible. So if most liberating thing possible. So if most liberating thing possible. So if you are one of those people watching you are one of those people watching you are one of those people watching this who is basically, this who is basically, this who is basically, you know, worrying about Christianity, you know, worrying about Christianity, you know, worrying about Christianity, is it true? uh you know having these is it true? uh you know having these is it true? uh you know having these questions that is fine. There is nothing questions that is fine. There is nothing questions that is fine. There is nothing wrong with that at all and see where it wrong with that at all and see where it wrong with that at all and see where it takes you and do not be afraid. Do not takes you and do not be afraid. Do not takes you and do not be afraid. Do not be afraid. You know I mean to bring the be afraid. You know I mean to bring the be afraid. You know I mean to bring the Bible into it. How many times in the Bible into it. How many times in the Bible into it. How many times in the Bible does it say do not be afraid? How Bible does it say do not be afraid? How Bible does it say do not be afraid? How many times did Jesus say do not be many times did Jesus say do not be many times did Jesus say do not be afraid? You know kind of doing a full afraid? You know kind of doing a full afraid? You know kind of doing a full circle there. But yeah, we'll we'll hear circle there. But yeah, we'll we'll hear circle there. But yeah, we'll we'll hear more of this. what insight does Jared more of this. what insight does Jared more of this. what insight does Jared have or or how because again I think have or or how because again I think have or or how because again I think with your atheist church audit series with your atheist church audit series with your atheist church audit series like it to me it gives me a lot of like it to me it gives me a lot of like it to me it gives me a lot of perspective and context on stuff of like perspective and context on stuff of like perspective and context on stuff of like hey because the scriptures talk a lot hey because the scriptures talk a lot hey because the scriptures talk a lot about hey like have a good name amongst about hey like have a good name amongst about hey like have a good name amongst outsiders outsiders outsiders >> have a good name amongst non-believers >> have a good name amongst non-believers >> have a good name amongst non-believers right right right >> when Paul goes to Athens I've said it so >> when Paul goes to Athens I've said it so >> when Paul goes to Athens I've said it so many times you know you clearly have many times you know you clearly have many times you know you clearly have great faith he meets people where they great faith he meets people where they great faith he meets people where they are are are >> um live such good lives among the pagans >> um live such good lives among the pagans >> um live such good lives among the pagans so they accuse you of doing wrong, they

so they accuse you of doing wrong, they so they accuse you of doing wrong, they may see your good deeds and worship God may see your good deeds and worship God may see your good deeds and worship God on the day he visits them. Like that's a on the day he visits them. Like that's a on the day he visits them. Like that's a that's a really bold proclamation and that's a really bold proclamation and that's a really bold proclamation and prescription that Paul's giving us. So I prescription that Paul's giving us. So I prescription that Paul's giving us. So I think you made that point of like, hey, think you made that point of like, hey, think you made that point of like, hey, it's the people that that aren't it's the people that that aren't it's the people that that aren't threatened because then they're not threatened because then they're not threatened because then they're not trying to trick you with any like trying to trick you with any like trying to trick you with any like Christian voodoo and all that, you know? Christian voodoo and all that, you know? Christian voodoo and all that, you know? >> Are you guys familiar with the term >> Are you guys familiar with the term >> Are you guys familiar with the term Jesus juke? Uh yeah, don't Jesus juke Jesus juke? Uh yeah, don't Jesus juke Jesus juke? Uh yeah, don't Jesus juke people, man. people, man. people, man. >> It's like uh Anyway, yeah. So, >> It's like uh Anyway, yeah. So, >> It's like uh Anyway, yeah. So, >> were you going to talk? I had a question >> were you going to talk? I had a question >> were you going to talk? I had a question for you, but share. for you, but share. for you, but share. >> Oh, man. What was I going to say? >> Oh, man. What was I going to say? >> Oh, man. What was I going to say? >> Yeah. I mean, I think that like just >> Yeah. I mean, I think that like just >> Yeah. I mean, I think that like just real quick, um, real quick, um, real quick, um, sometimes I'll introduce myself to a sometimes I'll introduce myself to a sometimes I'll introduce myself to a believer and I'll say like, "Oh yeah, believer and I'll say like, "Oh yeah, believer and I'll say like, "Oh yeah, I'm an atheist. I'm an ex-Christian." I'm an atheist. I'm an ex-Christian." I'm an atheist. I'm an ex-Christian." And you can see like the terror in their And you can see like the terror in their And you can see like the terror in their eyes and it's like it's like, "Man, I'm eyes and it's like it's like, "Man, I'm eyes and it's like it's like, "Man, I'm not I'm not I'm not here to like not I'm not I'm not here to like not I'm not I'm not here to like shipwreck your faith, dog. Like like shipwreck your faith, dog. Like like shipwreck your faith, dog. Like like chill." Um, and chill." Um, and chill." Um, and you know, I I I sometimes see people you know, I I I sometimes see people you know, I I I sometimes see people like kind of shake and tremble and it's like kind of shake and tremble and it's like kind of shake and tremble and it's like, like, like, you know, to for some people, right?

you know, to for some people, right? you know, to for some people, right? >> I love being next to you when we when >> I love being next to you when we when >> I love being next to you when we when you do the reveal. you do the reveal. you do the reveal. >> We were just at Chosen Con together and >> We were just at Chosen Con together and >> We were just at Chosen Con together and he's telling he's telling he's telling >> he introduces he runs up to people and >> he introduces he runs up to people and >> he introduces he runs up to people and he's like, "Have you met my atheist he's like, "Have you met my atheist he's like, "Have you met my atheist friend?" [applause] friend?" [applause] friend?" [applause] >> But they were they were all by and large >> But they were they were all by and large >> But they were they were all by and large those ladies were all by and large very those ladies were all by and large very those ladies were all by and large very sweet. They were very [laughter] sweet. They were very [laughter] sweet. They were very [laughter] They were very sweet. They were very They were very sweet. They were very They were very sweet. They were very kind. kind. kind. >> None of them tried to lay hands on you >> None of them tried to lay hands on you >> None of them tried to lay hands on you and pray over you in tongues. and pray over you in tongues. and pray over you in tongues. >> No, >> No, >> No, >> nothing weird happened. >> nothing weird happened. >> nothing weird happened. >> No, nothing weird happened thankfully. >> No, nothing weird happened thankfully. >> No, nothing weird happened thankfully. Um, Um, Um, but I mean I I but I mean I I but I mean I I don't let the fear of don't let the fear of don't let the fear of somebody hurting your faith prevent you somebody hurting your faith prevent you somebody hurting your faith prevent you from being a good Christian. from being a good Christian. from being a good Christian. Right. Um, Right. Um, Right. Um, I was hurting when I left the faith. I was hurting when I left the faith. I was hurting when I left the faith. It sucked. I I didn't want to live It sucked. I I didn't want to live It sucked. I I didn't want to live anymore, man. anymore, man. anymore, man. And people were so quick to And people were so quick to And people were so quick to to coax their own doubt to coax their own doubt to coax their own doubt >> rather than just >> rather than just >> rather than just just hold me.

Right. like like and and this is this is Right. like like and and this is this is so frustrating to me because this bleeds so frustrating to me because this bleeds so frustrating to me because this bleeds into politics as well, you know, like um into politics as well, you know, like um into politics as well, you know, like um something crappy happens in the news and something crappy happens in the news and something crappy happens in the news and immediately people are bickering about immediately people are bickering about immediately people are bickering about who's in the right and who's in the who's in the right and who's in the who's in the right and who's in the wrong, like this community is hurting. wrong, like this community is hurting. wrong, like this community is hurting. They're scared. They're scared. They're scared. And so, you know, before you dive And so, you know, before you dive And so, you know, before you dive headlong into um you know, trying to headlong into um you know, trying to headlong into um you know, trying to justify your side or or or coax your own justify your side or or or coax your own justify your side or or or coax your own doubt, like just just see them, man. doubt, like just just see them, man. doubt, like just just see them, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Were there any communities that embraced >> Were there any communities that embraced >> Were there any communities that embraced you well or some Christians that you're you well or some Christians that you're you well or some Christians that you're like, man, they did it right and what like, man, they did it right and what like, man, they did it right and what did that look like? did that look like? did that look like? I think I think my friends from college I think I think my friends from college I think I think my friends from college were really good about it. And were really good about it. And were really good about it. And you know, in that uh dark night of the you know, in that uh dark night of the you know, in that uh dark night of the soul, I didn't need to talk it through. soul, I didn't need to talk it through. soul, I didn't need to talk it through. I didn't need to hash it out. I didn't I didn't need to hash it out. I didn't I didn't need to hash it out. I didn't need to go through the apologetics need to go through the apologetics need to go through the apologetics again. I needed to play a board game. I again. I needed to play a board game. I again. I needed to play a board game. I needed uh to, you know, run around needed uh to, you know, run around needed uh to, you know, run around campus being a little Heliian, blasting campus being a little Heliian, blasting campus being a little Heliian, blasting some Eminem, playing hide-and-seek on some Eminem, playing hide-and-seek on some Eminem, playing hide-and-seek on campus, you know, like um campus, you know, like um campus, you know, like um that was that meant the world to me. Um that was that meant the world to me. Um that was that meant the world to me. Um and you know, it'll it'll get brought up and you know, it'll it'll get brought up and you know, it'll it'll get brought up eventually, right? I heard you once say, eventually, right? I heard you once say, eventually, right? I heard you once say, uh, play the long game.

uh, play the long game. uh, play the long game. And I think that so many Christians And I think that so many Christians And I think that so many Christians absolutely destroy their witness by absolutely destroy their witness by absolutely destroy their witness by being so quick to they want to fix it. being so quick to they want to fix it. being so quick to they want to fix it. They want to jump in. They want to jump in. They want to jump in. And you need to weep with those who weep And you need to weep with those who weep And you need to weep with those who weep and mourn with those who mourn. And even and mourn with those who mourn. And even and mourn with those who mourn. And even if you think that the reason why that if you think that the reason why that if you think that the reason why that person is weeping is BS, it's not to person is weeping is BS, it's not to person is weeping is BS, it's not to them. them. them. >> It sounds like, if I'm not mistaken, >> It sounds like, if I'm not mistaken, >> It sounds like, if I'm not mistaken, when you were a Christian, you were when you were a Christian, you were when you were a Christian, you were pretty confident, dialed in, didn't have pretty confident, dialed in, didn't have pretty confident, dialed in, didn't have a lot of doubts. that shifted. a lot of doubts. that shifted. a lot of doubts. that shifted. >> How confident are you in your atheism >> How confident are you in your atheism >> How confident are you in your atheism now? How much do you And so two now? How much do you And so two now? How much do you And so two questions. How confident are you that questions. How confident are you that questions. How confident are you that atheism is true? And how much do you atheism is true? And how much do you atheism is true? And how much do you think about the big questions? Like Ryan think about the big questions? Like Ryan think about the big questions? Like Ryan Burge this week, who's one of the Burge this week, who's one of the Burge this week, who's one of the leading like demographers? leading like demographers? leading like demographers? He was talking about how much people He was talking about how much people He was talking about how much people think about God and the afterlife and think about God and the afterlife and think about God and the afterlife and the big questions. And it was like black the big questions. And it was like black the big questions. And it was like black Protestants, Mormons, and then Protestants, Mormons, and then Protestants, Mormons, and then evangelicals. Nuns were like the lowest, evangelicals. Nuns were like the lowest, evangelicals. Nuns were like the lowest, but I think roughly half still think but I think roughly half still think but I think roughly half still think about these questions. about these questions. about these questions. >> Sure. Sure.

>> Sure. Sure. >> Sure. Sure. >> So, how much like do you ever go, "Yeah, >> So, how much like do you ever go, "Yeah, >> So, how much like do you ever go, "Yeah, maybe I shouldn't have left." Are you maybe I shouldn't have left." Are you maybe I shouldn't have left." Are you pretty confident? pretty confident? pretty confident? >> I'd love to hear. >> I'd love to hear. >> I'd love to hear. >> There's a few questions in there. Um, >> There's a few questions in there. Um, >> There's a few questions in there. Um, >> that's true. >> that's true. >> that's true. >> How confident am I that Christianity is >> How confident am I that Christianity is >> How confident am I that Christianity is not true? I'm I'm overwhelmingly not true? I'm I'm overwhelmingly not true? I'm I'm overwhelmingly confident. Hm. Um, how confident am I confident. Hm. Um, how confident am I confident. Hm. Um, how confident am I that there's not secretly, unbeknownst that there's not secretly, unbeknownst that there's not secretly, unbeknownst to me, a higher power? I'm more to me, a higher power? I'm more to me, a higher power? I'm more confident than I am not confident, but confident than I am not confident, but confident than I am not confident, but it's not the hell that I'm willing to it's not the hell that I'm willing to it's not the hell that I'm willing to die on. die on. die on. >> Um, oh, brother, I live there >> Um, oh, brother, I live there >> Um, oh, brother, I live there >> like all the cuz you're going to >> like all the cuz you're going to >> like all the cuz you're going to churches. Is it like a job or is it like churches. Is it like a job or is it like churches. Is it like a job or is it like still existential for you? still existential for you? still existential for you? >> No, no, no. I mean I mean um you know >> No, no, no. I mean I mean um you know >> No, no, no. I mean I mean um you know the the videos that I post are the the videos that I post are the the videos that I post are incredibly personal, right? And they, incredibly personal, right? And they, incredibly personal, right? And they, you know, I I meditate on you know, I I meditate on you know, I I meditate on you know you know you know who I am, what I am, where is this all who I am, what I am, where is this all who I am, what I am, where is this all going, what does it come from? Um, you going, what does it come from? Um, you going, what does it come from? Um, you know, I I I live there. know, I I I live there. know, I I I live there. >> Um, >> Um, >> Um, and so, yeah, I don't know. I think I I and so, yeah, I don't know. I think I I and so, yeah, I don't know. I think I I I I think that my atheist church audit I I think that my atheist church audit I I think that my atheist church audit series is just an extension of that. you series is just an extension of that. you series is just an extension of that. you know, I'm I'm more than happy to hear know, I'm I'm more than happy to hear know, I'm I'm more than happy to hear other people speculate and muse on it other people speculate and muse on it other people speculate and muse on it and I I disagree at times, but um and I I disagree at times, but um and I I disagree at times, but um sometimes hearing them talk about it sometimes hearing them talk about it sometimes hearing them talk about it with the the twinkle of hope in their with the the twinkle of hope in their with the the twinkle of hope in their eye and it's like, yeah, I think they're eye and it's like, yeah, I think they're eye and it's like, yeah, I think they're full of crap, but full of crap, but full of crap, but but I think it's a lovely sight. So, you but I think it's a lovely sight. So, you but I think it's a lovely sight. So, you you were a worship leader, you said.

you were a worship leader, you said. you were a worship leader, you said. What is it like for you, especially What is it like for you, especially What is it like for you, especially since you are a worship guy, to be like, since you are a worship guy, to be like, since you are a worship guy, to be like, I just fill my heart up, fill my soul I just fill my heart up, fill my soul I just fill my heart up, fill my soul up, or is that question itself like up, or is that question itself like up, or is that question itself like biased and you're like, you're asking biased and you're like, you're asking biased and you're like, you're asking the wrong question the wrong question the wrong question with groanings too deep for words, with groanings too deep for words, with groanings too deep for words, right? I mean, I I like my my beliefs right? I mean, I I like my my beliefs right? I mean, I I like my my beliefs are pretty straightforward. I think you are pretty straightforward. I think you are pretty straightforward. I think you die and it goes black. There's nothing die and it goes black. There's nothing die and it goes black. There's nothing magical about it, you know? It's it's magical about it, you know? It's it's magical about it, you know? It's it's nothing crazy about my my perspective or nothing crazy about my my perspective or nothing crazy about my my perspective or views. It's it's pretty straightforward. views. It's it's pretty straightforward. views. It's it's pretty straightforward. Um Um Um but man, sometimes just, you know, but man, sometimes just, you know, but man, sometimes just, you know, people bring me to tears. Just humans people bring me to tears. Just humans people bring me to tears. Just humans are wonderful. And I don't know why I are wonderful. And I don't know why I are wonderful. And I don't know why I think they're wonderful, but they are. think they're wonderful, but they are. think they're wonderful, but they are. And I feel inordinately grateful to to And I feel inordinately grateful to to And I feel inordinately grateful to to meet people and, meet people and, meet people and, you know, have friends that care about you know, have friends that care about you know, have friends that care about me. And I'm I'm fed. I'm in an air me. And I'm I'm fed. I'm in an air me. And I'm I'm fed. I'm in an air conditioned room like you know stuff is conditioned room like you know stuff is conditioned room like you know stuff is good and sometimes it's really not. Um good and sometimes it's really not. Um good and sometimes it's really not. Um but right here right now it is.

but right here right now it is. but right here right now it is. >> Um I mean what a really powerful >> Um I mean what a really powerful >> Um I mean what a really powerful testimony of decon conversion and I testimony of decon conversion and I testimony of decon conversion and I think this is something as Christians we think this is something as Christians we think this is something as Christians we really and if you're not a Christian I really and if you're not a Christian I really and if you're not a Christian I hope you take something from it. You hope you take something from it. You hope you take something from it. You know you must really take on board in know you must really take on board in know you must really take on board in what he's saying here. You know I think what he's saying here. You know I think what he's saying here. You know I think the thing that rings to me is preach the the thing that rings to me is preach the the thing that rings to me is preach the gospel use words if you have to. And so gospel use words if you have to. And so gospel use words if you have to. And so many people preach the gospel, but they many people preach the gospel, but they many people preach the gospel, but they only use words. And you know, if there's only use words. And you know, if there's only use words. And you know, if there's one thing we know about Jesus, action one thing we know about Jesus, action one thing we know about Jesus, action does matter. And um not to say that does matter. And um not to say that does matter. And um not to say that you're not loved less without action, you're not loved less without action, you're not loved less without action, but you know, James, my favorite book, I but you know, James, my favorite book, I but you know, James, my favorite book, I always bang on about, you know, faith always bang on about, you know, faith always bang on about, you know, faith without action is dead. And how true is without action is dead. And how true is without action is dead. And how true is that? St. John Cross, if there's that? St. John Cross, if there's that? St. John Cross, if there's something good rising in me, it's my something good rising in me, it's my something good rising in me, it's my moral duty, you know, to give it to moral duty, you know, to give it to moral duty, you know, to give it to somebody, give my treasure away. Um, and somebody, give my treasure away. Um, and somebody, give my treasure away. Um, and how many Christians when treasure is how many Christians when treasure is how many Christians when treasure is building up in them, how often do they building up in them, how often do they building up in them, how often do they not give that away? They hoard it. Um, not give that away? They hoard it. Um, not give that away? They hoard it. Um, and God bless this person. He clearly is and God bless this person. He clearly is and God bless this person. He clearly is a very genuine, good man. Um, a very genuine, good man. Um, a very genuine, good man. Um, and yeah, for anyone who's having doubts and yeah, for anyone who's having doubts and yeah, for anyone who's having doubts or struggling in life, God bless you. I or struggling in life, God bless you. I or struggling in life, God bless you. I don't have all the answers by any means, don't have all the answers by any means, don't have all the answers by any means, but I hope that you can feel seen but I hope that you can feel seen but I hope that you can feel seen watching my videos. I hope you can feel watching my videos. I hope you can feel watching my videos. I hope you can feel that there's somebody who gets you a that there's somebody who gets you a that there's somebody who gets you a little bit, who understands just a tiny little bit, who understands just a tiny little bit, who understands just a tiny bit of what you're going through. Um, bit of what you're going through. Um, bit of what you're going through. Um, and from feeling re really seen, I hope and from feeling re really seen, I hope and from feeling re really seen, I hope that gives you just a tiny bit of peace,

that gives you just a tiny bit of peace, that gives you just a tiny bit of peace, whatever it is. Um, but yeah, God bless whatever it is. Um, but yeah, God bless whatever it is. Um, but yeah, God bless you. If you did enjoy, like like the you. If you did enjoy, like like the you. If you did enjoy, like like the video. I never even say like and video. I never even say like and video. I never even say like and subscribe, but yeah, like, subscribe. subscribe, but yeah, like, subscribe. subscribe, but yeah, like, subscribe. You know, if you did enjoy it, You know, if you did enjoy it, You know, if you did enjoy it, subscribe. It mean a lot. Um, but yeah, subscribe. It mean a lot. Um, but yeah, subscribe. It mean a lot. Um, but yeah, God bless all of you. I think you God bless all of you. I think you God bless all of you. I think you enjoyed these two videos here. Yeah. enjoyed these two videos here. Yeah. enjoyed these two videos here. Yeah. Peace.