Restore Britain is IMPLODING - (Tenconi Tuesdays #7)
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So, welcome to episode seven of Tuesdays So, welcome to episode seven of Tuesdays where we speak about the nonsense where we speak about the nonsense where we speak about the nonsense identitarian anti-Jesus message on the identitarian anti-Jesus message on the identitarian anti-Jesus message on the right wing of British politics. But, right wing of British politics. But, right wing of British politics. But, here we go. This is what it says. So, here we go. This is what it says. So, here we go. This is what it says. So, Restore Britain, for anyone who don't Restore Britain, for anyone who don't Restore Britain, for anyone who don't know, is a right wing but political know, is a right wing but political know, is a right wing but political party. They've done quite well in the party. They've done quite well in the party. They've done quite well in the recent local elections. They stood, I recent local elections. They stood, I recent local elections. They stood, I think, 10 candidates or nine candidates think, 10 candidates or nine candidates think, 10 candidates or nine candidates and won every single one in Great and won every single one in Great and won every single one in Great Yarmouth. And this is what she says, Yarmouth. And this is what she says, Yarmouth. And this is what she says, exactly what British politics should exactly what British politics should exactly what British politics should look like, white, British, and proud. look like, white, British, and proud. look like, white, British, and proud. So, she put this out, right? And then So, she put this out, right? And then So, she put this out, right? And then she basically put out this tweet. So, she basically put out this tweet. So, she basically put out this tweet. So, she says, "Today I was supposed to speak she says, "Today I was supposed to speak she says, "Today I was supposed to speak in Restore Britain's youth wing launch in Restore Britain's youth wing launch in Restore Britain's youth wing launch in York. I was asked 2 weeks ago and in York. I was asked 2 weeks ago and in York. I was asked 2 weeks ago and bumped at the opportunity bumped at the opportunity bumped at the opportunity and to get behind something real. So, and to get behind something real. So, and to get behind something real. So, you know, Restore Britain attracting you know, Restore Britain attracting you know, Restore Britain attracting really loving, good people with a nice really loving, good people with a nice really loving, good people with a nice Christian heart focusing on race and Christian heart focusing on race and Christian heart focusing on race and these ridiculous things. So, however, I these ridiculous things. So, however, I these ridiculous things. So, however, I received a message this morning that say received a message this morning that say received a message this morning that say that because of my tweet last night, that because of my tweet last night, that because of my tweet last night, those higher up would rather have me not those higher up would rather have me not those higher up would rather have me not speak at stage event." And Restore have speak at stage event." And Restore have speak at stage event." And Restore have said and senior figures have openly said said and senior figures have openly said said and senior figures have openly said in the past this decision left me in the past this decision left me in the past this decision left me completely at a loss. Now, I won't go completely at a loss. Now, I won't go completely at a loss. Now, I won't go into it cuz it is a ginormous tweet and into it cuz it is a ginormous tweet and into it cuz it is a ginormous tweet and it did get a lot of traction, right? So, it did get a lot of traction, right? So, it did get a lot of traction, right? So, let's see what one of the key let's see what one of the key let's see what one of the key spokesperson says. So, all right, here's spokesperson says. So, all right, here's spokesperson says. So, all right, here's what happened. Someone flagged Saskia's what happened. Someone flagged Saskia's what happened. Someone flagged Saskia's post. They were worried it would violate post. They were worried it would violate post. They were worried it would violate the Electoral Commission guidelines or the Electoral Commission guidelines or the Electoral Commission guidelines or some frivolous equality law if some frivolous equality law if some frivolous equality law if associated with a registered political associated with a registered political associated with a registered political party. So, they rescinded her party. So, they rescinded her party. So, they rescinded her invitation. Staying quiet and not invitation. Staying quiet and not invitation. Staying quiet and not clarifying the situation has made things clarifying the situation has made things clarifying the situation has made things worse. Saskia deserves an apology from worse. Saskia deserves an apology from worse. Saskia deserves an apology from the person responsible for having her the person responsible for having her the person responsible for having her day wasted spending tens of hours sound day wasted spending tens of hours sound day wasted spending tens of hours sound trains for nothing. You know, the proper trains for nothing. You know, the proper trains for nothing. You know, the proper gent here, not saying, you know, maybe
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gent here, not saying, you know, maybe gent here, not saying, you know, maybe don't talk about race, maybe don't talk don't talk about race, maybe don't talk don't talk about race, maybe don't talk about skin color, maybe just focus on about skin color, maybe just focus on about skin color, maybe just focus on people and human beings, you know, man people and human beings, you know, man people and human beings, you know, man and human is good. No, Connor's out and human is good. No, Connor's out and human is good. No, Connor's out here. He's offering an apology. Lovely, here. He's offering an apology. Lovely, here. He's offering an apology. Lovely, lovely stuff. So, lovely stuff. So, lovely stuff. So, So, here we go. So, So, here we go. So, So, here we go. So, but we all know we have more, to be but we all know we have more, to be but we all know we have more, to be precise with our rhetoric going forward precise with our rhetoric going forward precise with our rhetoric going forward given the constraints of what we operate given the constraints of what we operate given the constraints of what we operate in under the Britain's hostile political in under the Britain's hostile political in under the Britain's hostile political environment. But, I thought Restore environment. But, I thought Restore environment. But, I thought Restore Britain was, you know, the Britain was, you know, the Britain was, you know, the straight-talking, you know, we're going straight-talking, you know, we're going straight-talking, you know, we're going to say it how it is. I love this cuz, to say it how it is. I love this cuz, to say it how it is. I love this cuz, you know, they always pushing terms of you know, they always pushing terms of you know, they always pushing terms of some sort of like alpha people who like some sort of like alpha people who like some sort of like alpha people who like just say it how it is, you know, do not just say it how it is, you know, do not just say it how it is, you know, do not mess with the Restore lads, you know. mess with the Restore lads, you know. mess with the Restore lads, you know. And here he is basically saying, "Oh, we And here he is basically saying, "Oh, we And here he is basically saying, "Oh, we got to be we got to go with the got to be we got to go with the got to be we got to go with the political environment." But hang on, political environment." But hang on, political environment." But hang on, isn't that the thing you would bang on isn't that the thing you would bang on isn't that the thing you would bang on about reform? You know, you say reform about reform? You know, you say reform about reform? You know, you say reform like, "Oh, they're playing into the woke like, "Oh, they're playing into the woke like, "Oh, they're playing into the woke wokearati. They're playing into the wokearati. They're playing into the wokearati. They're playing into the identitarian stuff." And then here they identitarian stuff." And then here they identitarian stuff." And then here they are out here basically being like, "We are out here basically being like, "We are out here basically being like, "We got to play within the political got to play within the political got to play within the political environment." I love how like they've environment." I love how like they've environment." I love how like they've been going barely a few months and been going barely a few months and been going barely a few months and they're already backtracking from this they're already backtracking from this they're already backtracking from this ridiculous, embarrassing, like kind of ridiculous, embarrassing, like kind of ridiculous, embarrassing, like kind of uh uh uh like this manly posture thing. So, here like this manly posture thing. So, here like this manly posture thing. So, here we go. Britain is it Right, yeah, so so we go. Britain is it Right, yeah, so so we go. Britain is it Right, yeah, so so I'm I'm butchering reading this, but I'm I'm butchering reading this, but I'm I'm butchering reading this, but Britain is basically the sovereign Britain is basically the sovereign Britain is basically the sovereign Soviet Union. Political parties are in Soviet Union. Political parties are in Soviet Union. Political parties are in legal straitjacket. The state is looking legal straitjacket. The state is looking legal straitjacket. The state is looking for any excuse to sabotage the movement.
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for any excuse to sabotage the movement. for any excuse to sabotage the movement. Yes, British politics should be for Yes, British politics should be for Yes, British politics should be for British people. Yeah, most Briti- Here British people. Yeah, most Briti- Here British people. Yeah, most Briti- Here we Here we go. I I love this. This is we Here we go. I I love this. This is we Here we go. I I love this. This is the new line, ladies and gentlemen, the new line, ladies and gentlemen, the new line, ladies and gentlemen, Restore been going for. It's It's a Restore been going for. It's It's a Restore been going for. It's It's a great deflection. So, they say, "Yes, great deflection. So, they say, "Yes, great deflection. So, they say, "Yes, most British people happen to be white, most British people happen to be white, most British people happen to be white, just like most human beings have two just like most human beings have two just like most human beings have two legs. No, that doesn't mean we should be legs. No, that doesn't mean we should be legs. No, that doesn't mean we should be cruel to people of other heritages." Oh cruel to people of other heritages." Oh cruel to people of other heritages." Oh my goodness, what an incredible my goodness, what an incredible my goodness, what an incredible statement. But it means the law should statement. But it means the law should statement. But it means the law should be changed to allow only British people be changed to allow only British people be changed to allow only British people to vote and stand in elections. It all to vote and stand in elections. It all to vote and stand in elections. It all is basic common sense. So, just just is basic common sense. So, just just is basic common sense. So, just just notice, right, how he didn't say white notice, right, how he didn't say white notice, right, how he didn't say white people there. Now, I guess the corner he people there. Now, I guess the corner he people there. Now, I guess the corner he would say, "Well, it's people who have would say, "Well, it's people who have would say, "Well, it's people who have married in and it's the English heritage married in and it's the English heritage married in and it's the English heritage and the Anglo-Saxons." And I guess he and the Anglo-Saxons." And I guess he and the Anglo-Saxons." And I guess he would say what? Somebody like being I would say what? Somebody like being I would say what? Somebody like being I just love, right, if you do genuinely just love, right, if you do genuinely just love, right, if you do genuinely believe that being British is having believe that being British is having believe that being British is having white skin, but not even that. If If white skin, but not even that. If If white skin, but not even that. If If because some people say, "Well, if you because some people say, "Well, if you because some people say, "Well, if you marry in." But the original archetype of marry in." But the original archetype of marry in." But the original archetype of what it means to be British by their what it means to be British by their what it means to be British by their logic is white, right? Just say it. Have logic is white, right? Just say it. Have logic is white, right? Just say it. Have some balls, right? Have, you know, if some balls, right? Have, you know, if some balls, right? Have, you know, if you are out there watching this video you are out there watching this video you are out there watching this video right now and you believe that to be right now and you believe that to be right now and you believe that to be British, you have to be white or you British, you have to be white or you British, you have to be white or you have to marry into somebody who's white, have to marry into somebody who's white, have to marry into somebody who's white, just say it. You know, he says British just say it. You know, he says British just say it. You know, he says British people to vote and stand in elections people to vote and stand in elections people to vote and stand in elections all basic current state. And the all basic current state. And the all basic current state. And the rhetoric sounds like race-based rhetoric sounds like race-based rhetoric sounds like race-based exclusion, which isn't Restore Britain's exclusion, which isn't Restore Britain's exclusion, which isn't Restore Britain's policy.
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policy. policy. Could provide an excuse for the Could provide an excuse for the Could provide an excuse for the authorities to use law for against us. authorities to use law for against us. authorities to use law for against us. This is no ban on the phrase remark This is no ban on the phrase remark This is no ban on the phrase remark racism. Reversing mass immigration is racism. Reversing mass immigration is racism. Reversing mass immigration is Restore Britain's policy. He isn't using Restore Britain's policy. He isn't using Restore Britain's policy. He isn't using his term in support of I hope this his term in support of I hope this his term in support of I hope this clears up. This shouldn't happen again. clears up. This shouldn't happen again. clears up. This shouldn't happen again. So, here we have, right? The one of the So, here we have, right? The one of the So, here we have, right? The one of the lead spokespeople of of Restore Britain. lead spokespeople of of Restore Britain. lead spokespeople of of Restore Britain. He's not on the payroll, but he he He's not on the payroll, but he he He's not on the payroll, but he he completely endorses them and all of completely endorses them and all of completely endorses them and all of this. So, a woman who comes out and this. So, a woman who comes out and this. So, a woman who comes out and says, you know, white proud British, says, you know, white proud British, says, you know, white proud British, right? right? right? And And And they're they're they're they're not saying, "Oh, no, no, they're not saying, "Oh, no, no, they're not saying, "Oh, no, no, shouldn't have said that." No, no, no, shouldn't have said that." No, no, no, shouldn't have said that." No, no, no, they're actually apologizing to her. they're actually apologizing to her. they're actually apologizing to her. They're saying, "No, no, no, I'm so They're saying, "No, no, no, I'm so They're saying, "No, no, no, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. You know, you sorry. I'm so sorry. You know, you sorry. I'm so sorry. You know, you should be able to say that." Like, I should be able to say that." Like, I should be able to say that." Like, I just love that. It's like um just love that. It's like um just love that. It's like um you know, if like if Reform came out you know, if like if Reform came out you know, if like if Reform came out with a candidate black or somebody and with a candidate black or somebody and with a candidate black or somebody and and they were like uh you know, black and they were like uh you know, black and they were like uh you know, black British proud, they'd be like, "Oh my British proud, they'd be like, "Oh my British proud, they'd be like, "Oh my goodness, this identitarian politics, goodness, this identitarian politics, goodness, this identitarian politics, you know, standing our elections, you you know, standing our elections, you you know, standing our elections, you know." Um and here we have them saying know." Um and here we have them saying know." Um and here we have them saying this. If you uh Restore Britain, don't this. If you uh Restore Britain, don't this. If you uh Restore Britain, don't talk about ancestry. Don't talk about talk about ancestry. Don't talk about talk about ancestry. Don't talk about the Anglo-Saxons. Just say it. You can the Anglo-Saxons. Just say it. You can the Anglo-Saxons. Just say it. You can say, "Oh, well, if they marry into white say, "Oh, well, if they marry into white say, "Oh, well, if they marry into white people, that's okay. You know, if if people, that's okay. You know, if if people, that's okay. You know, if if somebody's Nigerian, but they've been somebody's Nigerian, but they've been somebody's Nigerian, but they've been born a few decades and their family's born a few decades and their family's born a few decades and their family's Nigerian, they have to they have to, you Nigerian, they have to they have to, you Nigerian, they have to they have to, you know, marry into somebody who's British know, marry into somebody who's British know, marry into somebody who's British or English, right? And that person is or English, right? And that person is or English, right? And that person is white." Now, that I guess that can mean
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white." Now, that I guess that can mean white." Now, that I guess that can mean they couldn't maybe they're not fully they couldn't maybe they're not fully they couldn't maybe they're not fully white, maybe they're mixed and then white, maybe they're mixed and then white, maybe they're mixed and then maybe they have to if they marry into maybe they have to if they marry into maybe they have to if they marry into them that makes them a partly British. them that makes them a partly British. them that makes them a partly British. But again, like when you go down this But again, like when you go down this But again, like when you go down this ethnicity ridiculous way of thinking, ethnicity ridiculous way of thinking, ethnicity ridiculous way of thinking, this is where it leads. You have people this is where it leads. You have people this is where it leads. You have people on the internet saying white British on the internet saying white British on the internet saying white British proud. proud. proud. And you have on the least bites people And you have on the least bites people And you have on the least bites people not saying stop talking about race. not saying stop talking about race. not saying stop talking about race. No, you have them saying I'm sorry. I am No, you have them saying I'm sorry. I am No, you have them saying I'm sorry. I am so sorry. You know, and just imagine so sorry. You know, and just imagine so sorry. You know, and just imagine that mate, this is a self-proclaimed that mate, this is a self-proclaimed that mate, this is a self-proclaimed Catholic. Catholic. Catholic. Can you just imagine that for a second? Can you just imagine that for a second? Can you just imagine that for a second? This bloke is a Catholic. This bloke is a Catholic. This bloke is a Catholic. And he's saying sorry And he's saying sorry And he's saying sorry to a woman who speaks about race every to a woman who speaks about race every to a woman who speaks about race every other tweet. other tweet. other tweet. And he's saying sorry to her. And he's saying sorry to her. And he's saying sorry to her. Like it's one thing to ignore this and Like it's one thing to ignore this and Like it's one thing to ignore this and you could say well, I missed it. But you could say well, I missed it. But you could say well, I missed it. But he's literally saying sorry to her. Like just Like just can you just picture this for a second?
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can you just picture this for a second? can you just picture this for a second? Like Like Like imagine typing, right? And saying imagine typing, right? And saying imagine typing, right? And saying exactly what British politics should exactly what British politics should exactly what British politics should look like, white British and proud. So look like, white British and proud. So look like, white British and proud. So what is the ideal then for British what is the ideal then for British what is the ideal then for British politics? It's white people. Oh yeah, it's very Christian message Oh yeah, it's very Christian message there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Nazarene there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Nazarene there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Nazarene that was almost definitely brown if not that was almost definitely brown if not that was almost definitely brown if not super duper tanned. Yeah, yeah, yeah. super duper tanned. Yeah, yeah, yeah. super duper tanned. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely, yeah. This this is the this Definitely, yeah. This this is the this Definitely, yeah. This this is the this is the British, you know, British, yes. is the British, you know, British, yes. is the British, you know, British, yes. At least she's saying it. At least she's At least she's saying it. At least she's At least she's saying it. At least she's being honest. At least she's saying like being honest. At least she's saying like being honest. At least she's saying like what she thinks, you know, and she'll what she thinks, you know, and she'll what she thinks, you know, and she'll get a lot of grief for this, but at get a lot of grief for this, but at get a lot of grief for this, but at least she's owning it. What I can't least she's owning it. What I can't least she's owning it. What I can't stand is the people who are still who stand is the people who are still who stand is the people who are still who basically do mental gymnastics to say, basically do mental gymnastics to say, basically do mental gymnastics to say, oh, but but no, no, no, no, England we oh, but but no, no, no, no, England we oh, but but no, no, no, no, England we don't care about race. It's just English don't care about race. It's just English don't care about race. It's just English people happen to be white. So that's we people happen to be white. So that's we people happen to be white. So that's we care about English people. It's nothing care about English people. It's nothing care about English people. It's nothing to do with race. It's just they happen to do with race. It's just they happen to do with race. It's just they happen to be white. Just like if we're in to be white. Just like if we're in to be white. Just like if we're in Nigeria, they happen to be certain Nigeria, they happen to be certain Nigeria, they happen to be certain color. No, no, it's nothing to do with color. No, no, it's nothing to do with color. No, no, it's nothing to do with um um um whiteness. No, no, no. I I love I love whiteness. No, no, no. I I love I love whiteness. No, no, no. I I love I love the mental gymnastics. It's like um the the mental gymnastics. It's like um the the mental gymnastics. It's like um the leader of the KKK, right? Now, it leader of the KKK, right? Now, it leader of the KKK, right? Now, it There's people in the KKK, right, who There's people in the KKK, right, who There's people in the KKK, right, who when they get asked a question, they say when they get asked a question, they say when they get asked a question, they say stuff like, "No, no, no, it's not like stuff like, "No, no, no, it's not like stuff like, "No, no, no, it's not like we have any hate to people of different we have any hate to people of different we have any hate to people of different ethnicities. No, no, no, nothing like ethnicities. No, no, no, nothing like ethnicities. No, no, no, nothing like that. It's just we, you know, we're from that. It's just we, you know, we're from that. It's just we, you know, we're from a certain place and we happen to be this a certain place and we happen to be this a certain place and we happen to be this skin color, so we happen to want to live skin color, so we happen to want to live skin color, so we happen to want to live separately." Do Don't you just see the separately." Do Don't you just see the separately." Do Don't you just see the nonsense this perpetuates? And even if nonsense this perpetuates? And even if nonsense this perpetuates? And even if you you grant them that and they're you you grant them that and they're you you grant them that and they're being completely honest within that,
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being completely honest within that, being completely honest within that, where do you think that leads? where do you think that leads? where do you think that leads? Do you think that that leads to love? Do Do you think that that leads to love? Do Do you think that that leads to love? Do you think that leads to unity? Do you you think that leads to unity? Do you you think that leads to unity? Do you think that leads to a place of bringing think that leads to a place of bringing think that leads to a place of bringing communities together? Of course it communities together? Of course it communities together? Of course it doesn't. You are playing with fire. You doesn't. You are playing with fire. You doesn't. You are playing with fire. You are playing with this identity nonsense. are playing with this identity nonsense. are playing with this identity nonsense. I thought we were above this. I thought I thought we were above this. I thought I thought we were above this. I thought we've we've got past this. Focusing on we've we've got past this. Focusing on we've we've got past this. Focusing on immutable characteristics. immutable characteristics. immutable characteristics. Like, mate, go outside, touch some Like, mate, go outside, touch some Like, mate, go outside, touch some grass. We got millions of people grass. We got millions of people grass. We got millions of people starving, million people who hate starving, million people who hate starving, million people who hate themselves. themselves. themselves. And you And, you know, Restore Britain And you And, you know, Restore Britain And you And, you know, Restore Britain are talking about, you know, identity are talking about, you know, identity are talking about, you know, identity nonsense. And I Just to clarify, I'm not nonsense. And I Just to clarify, I'm not nonsense. And I Just to clarify, I'm not saying that Restore Britain saying that Restore Britain saying that Restore Britain policy is, you know, just white people, policy is, you know, just white people, policy is, you know, just white people, but I think a lot of them play fast and but I think a lot of them play fast and but I think a lot of them play fast and loose. One time it's our ancestry is loose. One time it's our ancestry is loose. One time it's our ancestry is important, the next minute it's, "No, important, the next minute it's, "No, important, the next minute it's, "No, no, no, no." And can I can I just make no, no, no." And can I can I just make no, no, no." And can I can I just make the point, right, it's how far back you the point, right, it's how far back you the point, right, it's how far back you go. And I go. And I go. And I I I adore this, right? This is um GB I I adore this, right? This is um GB I I adore this, right? This is um GB News, then uh News, then uh News, then uh Look Look at this, right? This is Look Look at this, right? This is Look Look at this, right? This is Charlie Downs, key spokesperson. Look at Charlie Downs, key spokesperson. Look at Charlie Downs, key spokesperson. Look at how he plays fast and loose with the how he plays fast and loose with the how he plays fast and loose with the word English, English identity. And look word English, English identity. And look word English, English identity. And look at what she says. This is just at what she says. This is just at what she says. This is just beautiful.
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beautiful. beautiful. Well, I I mean, I'm a Christian, so I Well, I I mean, I'm a Christian, so I Well, I I mean, I'm a Christian, so I believe that I think we should believe that I think we should believe that I think we should [clears throat] all share a common [clears throat] all share a common [clears throat] all share a common ancestor. ancestor. ancestor. >> you might believe that, but science says >> you might believe that, but science says >> you might believe that, but science says We all share a common ancestor, but I'm We all share a common ancestor, but I'm We all share a common ancestor, but I'm going to speak about demographic going to speak about demographic going to speak about demographic replacement, uh deporting people born replacement, uh deporting people born replacement, uh deporting people born here. But at the same time, no, no, no, here. But at the same time, no, no, no, here. But at the same time, no, no, no, no, we all share a common ancestry one no, we all share a common ancestry one no, we all share a common ancestry one in Christ. Well, which is it, mate? in Christ. Well, which is it, mate? in Christ. Well, which is it, mate? You know, as James says, You know, as James says, You know, as James says, faith without action is dead. faith without action is dead. faith without action is dead. You you can't have it both ways. You You you can't have it both ways. You You you can't have it both ways. You can't have it like, oh, this is awful, can't have it like, oh, this is awful, can't have it like, oh, this is awful, the demographic replacement of England, the demographic replacement of England, the demographic replacement of England, blah, blah, blah, but at the same time, blah, blah, blah, but at the same time, blah, blah, blah, but at the same time, oh, no, we're all one in Christ. Which oh, no, we're all one in Christ. Which oh, no, we're all one in Christ. Which is it? You you can't You can't just is it? You you can't You can't just is it? You you can't You can't just basically do these mental gymnastics basically do these mental gymnastics basically do these mental gymnastics constantly. You are playing with constantly. You are playing with constantly. You are playing with absolute fire. And there'll be people absolute fire. And there'll be people absolute fire. And there'll be people who are legit racist who sup- who who are legit racist who sup- who who are legit racist who sup- who support Restore Britain. That's not all support Restore Britain. That's not all support Restore Britain. That's not all of them. I'm sure there's loads of of them. I'm sure there's loads of of them. I'm sure there's loads of fantastic people who support Restore fantastic people who support Restore fantastic people who support Restore Britain. I'm not saying that for a Britain. I'm not saying that for a Britain. I'm not saying that for a second, right? If you're one of the second, right? If you're one of the second, right? If you're one of the people who support Britain, I'm not people who support Britain, I'm not people who support Britain, I'm not saying you're racist. But there are saying you're racist. But there are saying you're racist. But there are racists that support them. racists that support them. racists that support them. And it's not a surprise that's the case And it's not a surprise that's the case And it's not a surprise that's the case at all. Not the wise that we, mankind, at all. Not the wise that we, mankind, at all. Not the wise that we, mankind, came from Africa. If If you're going How came from Africa. If If you're going How came from Africa. If If you're going How far back are you going? I'm going back far back are you going? I'm going back far back are you going? I'm going back to the beginning.
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to the beginning. to the beginning. Uh, for what? Well, mankind. Uh, for what? Well, mankind. Uh, for what? Well, mankind. For mankind? For mankind? For mankind? >> they say in the creation of mankind that >> they say in the creation of mankind that >> they say in the creation of mankind that mankind came from Africa, mankind came from Africa, mankind came from Africa, [clears throat] [clears throat] [clears throat] >> Yeah. then >> Yeah. then >> Yeah. then you're from Africa. Your your your you're from Africa. Your your your you're from Africa. Your your your heritage is all the way I love I love heritage is all the way I love I love heritage is all the way I love I love the movement of the seat, just how he's the movement of the seat, just how he's the movement of the seat, just how he's like, oh my goodness, that's actually a like, oh my goodness, that's actually a like, oh my goodness, that's actually a fantastic point. Now, Charlie is a smart fantastic point. Now, Charlie is a smart fantastic point. Now, Charlie is a smart bloke. He knows that that's a good bloke. He knows that that's a good bloke. He knows that that's a good point. point. point. He knows that what she's saying there He knows that what she's saying there He knows that what she's saying there has some weight. She He knows that oh, has some weight. She He knows that oh, has some weight. She He knows that oh, wait, actually, if we were all wait, actually, if we were all wait, actually, if we were all originally from one place, originally from one place, originally from one place, then maybe having our identity wrapped then maybe having our identity wrapped then maybe having our identity wrapped up in our current place is not the up in our current place is not the up in our current place is not the smartest idea ever, because then you're smartest idea ever, because then you're smartest idea ever, because then you're just playing a clock. How far back do just playing a clock. How far back do just playing a clock. How far back do you want to go? you want to go? you want to go? Because then it's like, well, if you go Because then it's like, well, if you go Because then it's like, well, if you go further back, well, our our history, our further back, well, our our history, our further back, well, our our history, our ancestry, ancestry, ancestry, goes back there. goes back there. goes back there. And can I just say that's a consensus And can I just say that's a consensus And can I just say that's a consensus among archaeologists of scientists, so among archaeologists of scientists, so among archaeologists of scientists, so it's not a fringe view. it's not a fringe view. it's not a fringe view. Like, it's not a fringe view. All right? Like, it's not a fringe view. All right? Like, it's not a fringe view. All right? So, to all the all the people out there So, to all the all the people out there So, to all the all the people out there who's fresh by society nonsense, right?
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who's fresh by society nonsense, right? who's fresh by society nonsense, right? What what are you going to do with that? What what are you going to do with that? What what are you going to do with that? Are you going to say, "Well, no. The the Are you going to say, "Well, no. The the Are you going to say, "Well, no. The the truth is the last few thousand years is truth is the last few thousand years is truth is the last few thousand years is what matters. But before then, the what matters. But before then, the what matters. But before then, the ancestry and all this nonsense you're ancestry and all this nonsense you're ancestry and all this nonsense you're banging on about." No, no, no. That that banging on about." No, no, no. That that banging on about." No, no, no. That that doesn't matter. It's about the recent doesn't matter. It's about the recent doesn't matter. It's about the recent heritage. heritage. heritage. It's it really is pathetic, this whole It's it really is pathetic, this whole It's it really is pathetic, this whole thing. thing. thing. Like you think 20 2026, we are Like you think 20 2026, we are Like you think 20 2026, we are this is what we're talking about. this is what we're talking about. this is what we're talking about. Like come on. We are better than this. Like come on. We are better than this. Like come on. We are better than this. Come on, let's get past this identity Come on, let's get past this identity Come on, let's get past this identity nonsense. If it's wokeness speaking nonsense. If it's wokeness speaking nonsense. If it's wokeness speaking about, about, about, you know, victim Olympics, right? you know, victim Olympics, right? you know, victim Olympics, right? What are the right doing, you know? It's What are the right doing, you know? It's What are the right doing, you know? It's it's just ludicrous. it's just ludicrous. it's just ludicrous. >> Stay further back. Well, if the if the >> Stay further back. Well, if the if the >> Stay further back. Well, if the if the out of Africa theory is correct, then out of Africa theory is correct, then out of Africa theory is correct, then Which it is correct. Um I'm sure there's Which it is correct. Um I'm sure there's Which it is correct. Um I'm sure there's a a a tiny amount of people who think it's not tiny amount of people who think it's not tiny amount of people who think it's not correct, but the consensus is it is correct, but the consensus is it is correct, but the consensus is it is correct. So, he says, "Well, if it is correct. So, he says, "Well, if it is correct. So, he says, "Well, if it is correct." Well, yeah. From from the correct." Well, yeah. From from the correct." Well, yeah. From from the looks of it, it seems like almost it looks of it, it seems like almost it looks of it, it seems like almost it pretty much definitely is correct, you pretty much definitely is correct, you pretty much definitely is correct, you know?
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know? know? And he's questioning like, "Well, maybe And he's questioning like, "Well, maybe And he's questioning like, "Well, maybe it's correct." it's correct." it's correct." Yes, but that doesn't That doesn't make Yes, but that doesn't That doesn't make Yes, but that doesn't That doesn't make me African now. me African now. me African now. >> Well, it means that there's a piece of >> Well, it means that there's a piece of >> Well, it means that there's a piece of Yeah, Charlie would hate that, wouldn't Yeah, Charlie would hate that, wouldn't Yeah, Charlie would hate that, wouldn't he? Being a being an African man. He You he? Being a being an African man. He You he? Being a being an African man. He You know, he's got all this Anglo-Saxon know, he's got all this Anglo-Saxon know, he's got all this Anglo-Saxon identity. Yeah, yeah. It What what makes me laugh is that they It What what makes me laugh is that they think that think that think that this Anglo-Saxon this Anglo-Saxon this Anglo-Saxon like rhetoric resonates with people. like rhetoric resonates with people. like rhetoric resonates with people. They think like the average bloke on the They think like the average bloke on the They think like the average bloke on the street is like, "Yeah, yeah. I wake up street is like, "Yeah, yeah. I wake up street is like, "Yeah, yeah. I wake up every day and the Anglo-Saxon identity every day and the Anglo-Saxon identity every day and the Anglo-Saxon identity is just streaming from our veins, you is just streaming from our veins, you is just streaming from our veins, you know?" know?" know?" Um Um Um It it really is just ludicrous. Yes, it It it really is just ludicrous. Yes, it It it really is just ludicrous. Yes, it is, which means you're not British. is, which means you're not British. is, which means you're not British. >> If that's not what I'm saying. I'm not >> If that's not what I'm saying. I'm not >> If that's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying It's just blood, isn't it? saying It's just blood, isn't it? saying It's just blood, isn't it? Oh, come Come on. Come [laughter] on. I Oh, come Come on. Come [laughter] on. I Oh, come Come on. Come [laughter] on. I DON'T THINK THAT HE'S NOT I LOVE THAT. DON'T THINK THAT HE'S NOT I LOVE THAT. DON'T THINK THAT HE'S NOT I LOVE THAT. LIKE, come on. No, ain't ain't that LIKE, come on. No, ain't ain't that LIKE, come on. No, ain't ain't that ridiculous? If you are obsessing about ridiculous? If you are obsessing about ridiculous? If you are obsessing about identity or stuff like identity or stuff like identity or stuff like surely that has some weight. You you surely that has some weight. You you surely that has some weight. You you know, Corner himself says you know, what know, Corner himself says you know, what know, Corner himself says you know, what like like like it's just English people happen to be it's just English people happen to be it's just English people happen to be white. So, it does have some weight.
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white. So, it does have some weight. white. So, it does have some weight. You know, just say it. Just have some You know, just say it. Just have some You know, just say it. Just have some balls and say it. balls and say it. balls and say it. Why dance around the issue? I thought Why dance around the issue? I thought Why dance around the issue? I thought we're this straight-talking, we're this straight-talking, we're this straight-talking, you know, oh, we're these masculine men you know, oh, we're these masculine men you know, oh, we're these masculine men who say it as it is. So, just say it who say it as it is. So, just say it who say it as it is. So, just say it then. Just say it. I I just love the then. Just say it. I I just love the then. Just say it. I I just love the dancing around the subject, which we dancing around the subject, which we dancing around the subject, which we just see just see just see just say it. just say it. just say it. Like, if you really believe what you Like, if you really believe what you Like, if you really believe what you believe, say it. believe, say it. believe, say it. Don't Don't Don't like like like just say what you believe. Like, at just say what you believe. Like, at just say what you believe. Like, at least with Saskia, right? She says, least with Saskia, right? She says, least with Saskia, right? She says, "This is what British politics should "This is what British politics should "This is what British politics should look like, white British power." At look like, white British power." At look like, white British power." At least she's saying what she thinks. At least she's saying what she thinks. At least she's saying what she thinks. At least she's being honest, right? At least she's being honest, right? At least she's being honest, right? At least she's saying and she'll get a least she's saying and she'll get a least she's saying and she'll get a little backlash from that. I'm sure by little backlash from that. I'm sure by little backlash from that. I'm sure by some people. some people. some people. But, at least she's saying it. She's But, at least she's saying it. She's But, at least she's saying it. She's not, you know, keeping her cards close not, you know, keeping her cards close not, you know, keeping her cards close to her table saying, "Oh, well, this to her table saying, "Oh, well, this to her table saying, "Oh, well, this isn't the right political strategy." No, isn't the right political strategy." No, isn't the right political strategy." No, she's saying what she thinks. she's saying what she thinks. she's saying what she thinks. She does believe that, you know, being She does believe that, you know, being She does believe that, you know, being white white white is important for running in British is important for running in British is important for running in British elections and that she is proud to see elections and that she is proud to see elections and that she is proud to see white people winning.
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white people winning. white people winning. Not good people, but white people, you Not good people, but white people, you Not good people, but white people, you know? know? know? Um just be honest. If if you're one of Um just be honest. If if you're one of Um just be honest. If if you're one of those people on I'm watching this right those people on I'm watching this right those people on I'm watching this right now who now who now who who believes that who believes that who believes that skin color matters in the UK and that skin color matters in the UK and that skin color matters in the UK and that basically white people basically white people basically white people um um um makes you English. And if like you're makes you English. And if like you're makes you English. And if like you're black black black you're not English then uh you're not English then uh you're not English then uh you know, be honest about it. you know, be honest about it. you know, be honest about it. Simple. Be honest. Just Say I was I love Simple. Be honest. Just Say I was I love Simple. Be honest. Just Say I was I love people who go, "Oh, he's just people who go, "Oh, he's just people who go, "Oh, he's just racializing it." racializing it." racializing it." Like like we like I'm the person who Like like we like I'm the person who Like like we like I'm the person who speaks about this identity nonsense. speaks about this identity nonsense. speaks about this identity nonsense. I I just love that kind of I I just love that kind of I I just love that kind of that deflection. Well, why are you that deflection. Well, why are you that deflection. Well, why are you racializing it? racializing it? racializing it? You I'm not the one who speaks about You I'm not the one who speaks about You I'm not the one who speaks about ancestry. ancestry. ancestry. Anglo-Sax- Anglo-Sax- Anglo-Sax- So, you don't think she's English? So, let let's just get to the bottom of So, let let's just get to the bottom of this very quickly. This is really this very quickly. This is really this very quickly. This is really important, right? If you could. important, right? If you could. important, right? If you could. >> If if I was born in China, that wouldn't >> If if I was born in China, that wouldn't >> If if I was born in China, that wouldn't make me Chinese because Chinese and make me Chinese because Chinese and make me Chinese because Chinese and well, I mean there's there are many well, I mean there's there are many well, I mean there's there are many [clears throat] ethnicities contained [clears throat] ethnicities contained [clears throat] ethnicities contained within the category of Chinese, but it within the category of Chinese, but it within the category of Chinese, but it is fundamentally an ethnic identity.
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is fundamentally an ethnic identity. is fundamentally an ethnic identity. It's not a civic identity. And in the It's not a civic identity. And in the It's not a civic identity. And in the same way, if just because you're born in same way, if just because you're born in same way, if just because you're born in England doesn't make you English. I'm England doesn't make you English. I'm England doesn't make you English. I'm sorry, it doesn't. sorry, it doesn't. sorry, it doesn't. >> it's a fair point for that. So, say it >> it's a fair point for that. So, say it >> it's a fair point for that. So, say it then. You you know, you speak about then. You you know, you speak about then. You you know, you speak about China with the ethnicity that making you China with the ethnicity that making you China with the ethnicity that making you Chinese. So, if you believe that, say Chinese. So, if you believe that, say Chinese. So, if you believe that, say it. it. it. Say it. Say it. Say it. The ethnicity The ethnicity The ethnicity makes you English. Say it. Stop talking makes you English. Say it. Stop talking makes you English. Say it. Stop talking about ancestry. Stop Like, just say about ancestry. Stop Like, just say about ancestry. Stop Like, just say ethnicity. But, again, ethnicity. But, again, ethnicity. But, again, they they just dance around saying that. they they just dance around saying that. they they just dance around saying that. They cuz they know they know people They cuz they know they know people They cuz they know they know people don't like to hear that and they also don't like to hear that and they also don't like to hear that and they also know know know that I I think they kind of know it. that I I think they kind of know it. that I I think they kind of know it. Yeah, this this isn't very wholesome. Yeah, this this isn't very wholesome. Yeah, this this isn't very wholesome. This isn't, you know, 1 Corinthians come This isn't, you know, 1 Corinthians come This isn't, you know, 1 Corinthians come from love. Like, I think they know that. from love. Like, I think they know that. from love. Like, I think they know that. And I wanted to ask about if if you're And I wanted to ask about if if you're And I wanted to ask about if if you're going to have that policy, great, but going to have that policy, great, but going to have that policy, great, but how far back are you One. One how far back are you One. One how far back are you One. One generation. One generation. So, past that, One generation. So, past that, like like like It's it's ridiculous. It is absolutely It's it's ridiculous. It is absolutely It's it's ridiculous. It is absolutely ridiculous. You cannot talk about ridiculous. You cannot talk about ridiculous. You cannot talk about ancestry, but then ignore the rest of ancestry, but then ignore the rest of ancestry, but then ignore the rest of ancestry. It's it's ludicrous.
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>> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Look, look, I love that. No, no, I'm >> Look, look, I love that. No, no, I'm >> Look, look, I love that. No, no, I'm saying you said it's an ancient thing, saying you said it's an ancient thing, saying you said it's an ancient thing, but now all of a sudden I was one but now all of a sudden I was one but now all of a sudden I was one generation back. So, what which is it? generation back. So, what which is it? generation back. So, what which is it? Which is it, Charles? I had English Which is it, Charles? I had English Which is it, Charles? I had English grandparents, grandparents, grandparents, >> [laughter] >> Look >> Look >> look how he's getting cuz he he knows >> look how he's getting cuz he he knows >> look how he's getting cuz he he knows that what that what that what like he thinks is not coherent. He not like he thinks is not coherent. He not like he thinks is not coherent. He not he like he realizes that. If you have an he like he realizes that. If you have an he like he realizes that. If you have an English parents, then you are If you English parents, then you are If you English parents, then you are If you have two English parents, then you're have two English parents, then you're have two English parents, then you're English. If you have one English parent, English. If you have one English parent, English. If you have one English parent, then you're half-English. then you're half-English. then you're half-English. >> So you're saying that Nanas children are >> So you're saying that Nanas children are >> So you're saying that Nanas children are So Nanas children are English. So Nanas children are English. So Nanas children are English. >> mixed race? Now, this is where it gets >> mixed race? Now, this is where it gets >> mixed race? Now, this is where it gets >> Is your >> Is your >> Is your This gets a bit tricky because they're This gets a bit tricky because they're This gets a bit tricky because they're mixed race. I was born in this country. mixed race. I was born in this country. mixed race. I was born in this country. They're mixed races and not white white. They're mixed races and not white white. They're mixed races and not white white. But their partner my partner's were But their partner my partner's were But their partner my partner's were English. But I don't know how far back English. But I don't know how far back English. But I don't know how far back they have been English. So they're they have been English. So they're they have been English. So they're half-English? Yeah, but what if the half-English? Yeah, but what if the half-English? Yeah, but what if the before then that the thing was the dad before then that the thing was the dad before then that the thing was the dad was Irish? was Irish? was Irish? Well, then they'd be half-Irish, Well, then they'd be half-Irish, Well, then they'd be half-Irish, wouldn't they? Yeah, but wouldn't they? Yeah, but wouldn't they? Yeah, but >> They would they wouldn't they be a >> They would they wouldn't they be a >> They would they wouldn't they be a quarter? quarter? quarter? >> No, no, they'd be a quarter. What so if >> No, no, they'd be a quarter. What so if >> No, no, they'd be a quarter. What so if Okay, so if your partner's If your Okay, so if your partner's If your Okay, so if your partner's If your partner's parents were Yeah, but this is partner's parents were Yeah, but this is partner's parents were Yeah, but this is a This is a This is a generation, isn't a This is a This is a generation, isn't a This is a This is a generation, isn't it? So if one of them was Irish and one it? So if one of them was Irish and one it? So if one of them was Irish and one of them was English, that means your of them was English, that means your of them was English, that means your partner is half-English and half-Irish.
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partner is half-English and half-Irish. partner is half-English and half-Irish. That would mean that your children are That would mean that your children are That would mean that your children are 1/4 English and 1/4 Irish. You see how 1/4 English and 1/4 Irish. You see how 1/4 English and 1/4 Irish. You see how messy this is? It's not a debate. This messy this is? It's not a debate. This messy this is? It's not a debate. This illustrates the ludicrousness of this illustrates the ludicrousness of this illustrates the ludicrousness of this debate. But it's not No, but it's not debate. But it's not No, but it's not debate. But it's not No, but it's not because everything I've just said is because everything I've just said is because everything I've just said is factual. And I'm sure that plenty of factual. And I'm sure that plenty of factual. And I'm sure that plenty of people listening at home will understand people listening at home will understand people listening at home will understand what it is that I'm getting at here what it is that I'm getting at here what it is that I'm getting at here because these are real things. because these are real things. because these are real things. >> I don't I don't get it. I'm not at home. >> I don't I don't get it. I'm not at home. >> I don't I don't get it. I'm not at home. I'm here right next to you. I'm here right next to you. I'm here right next to you. >> human beings are not just a gray >> human beings are not just a gray >> human beings are not just a gray homogeneous mass. There are differences homogeneous mass. There are differences homogeneous mass. There are differences between different groups of people who between different groups of people who between different groups of people who come from different places. The English, come from different places. The English, come from different places. The English, for example, are an ethnic group. They for example, are an ethnic group. They for example, are an ethnic group. They are ethnic Well, at least you said it are ethnic Well, at least you said it are ethnic Well, at least you said it there. The English are an ethnic group. there. The English are an ethnic group. there. The English are an ethnic group. Yes, but if if Yes. And can I write Just Yes, but if if Yes. And can I write Just Yes, but if if Yes. And can I write Just on that point, the English are an ethnic on that point, the English are an ethnic on that point, the English are an ethnic group, right? So I want I want to speak group, right? So I want I want to speak group, right? So I want I want to speak about this, right? So This is a very about this, right? So This is a very about this, right? So This is a very interesting. So first, modern Britons interesting. So first, modern Britons interesting. So first, modern Britons had dark to black skin Cheddar Man DNA had dark to black skin Cheddar Man DNA had dark to black skin Cheddar Man DNA analysis revealed. So the the genome of analysis revealed. So the the genome of analysis revealed. So the the genome of the Cheddar Man who lived 10,000 years the Cheddar Man who lived 10,000 years the Cheddar Man who lived 10,000 years ago, so we're talking about real ago, so we're talking about real ago, so we're talking about real ancestry here, suggested that he had ancestry here, suggested that he had ancestry here, suggested that he had blue eyes, dark skin, and dark curly blue eyes, dark skin, and dark curly blue eyes, dark skin, and dark curly hair. The first modern Britons who lived hair. The first modern Britons who lived hair. The first modern Britons who lived about 10,000 years ago had dark black about 10,000 years ago had dark black about 10,000 years ago had dark black skin, a groundbreaking DNA analysis of skin, a groundbreaking DNA analysis of skin, a groundbreaking DNA analysis of Britain's oldest complete skeleton has Britain's oldest complete skeleton has Britain's oldest complete skeleton has revealed. The fossil known as Cheddar revealed. The fossil known as Cheddar revealed. The fossil known as Cheddar Man was unearthed more than a century Man was unearthed more than a century Man was unearthed more than a century ago in Gough's Gough's Cave in Somerset.
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ago in Gough's Gough's Cave in Somerset. ago in Gough's Gough's Cave in Somerset. Intense speculation has built up around Intense speculation has built up around Intense speculation has built up around Cheddar Man's original origins and Cheddar Man's original origins and Cheddar Man's original origins and appearances because he lived shortly appearances because he lived shortly appearances because he lived shortly after the first settlers crossed the after the first settlers crossed the after the first settlers crossed the continental Europe to Britain at the end continental Europe to Britain at the end continental Europe to Britain at the end of the last ice age. People of white of the last ice age. People of white of the last ice age. People of white British ancestry alive today are British ancestry alive today are British ancestry alive today are descendants of this population. descendants of this population. descendants of this population. Are descendants of this population. It Are descendants of this population. It Are descendants of this population. It was initially assumed that Cheddar Man was initially assumed that Cheddar Man was initially assumed that Cheddar Man had pale skin and fair hair, but his DNA had pale skin and fair hair, but his DNA had pale skin and fair hair, but his DNA paints a different picture. Strongly paints a different picture. Strongly paints a different picture. Strongly suggests that he had blue eyes, a very suggests that he had blue eyes, a very suggests that he had blue eyes, a very dark brown to black complexion, and dark dark brown to black complexion, and dark dark brown to black complexion, and dark curly hair. The discovery shows that the curly hair. The discovery shows that the curly hair. The discovery shows that the genes for lighter skin became widespread genes for lighter skin became widespread genes for lighter skin became widespread in Europe population far later than in Europe population far later than in Europe population far later than originally thought, and that skin color originally thought, and that skin color originally thought, and that skin color was not always a proxy for geographic was not always a proxy for geographic was not always a proxy for geographic origin in the way it is often seen origin in the way it is often seen origin in the way it is often seen today. Tom Booth, an archaeologist at today. Tom Booth, an archaeologist at today. Tom Booth, an archaeologist at the Natural History Museum who worked on the Natural History Museum who worked on the Natural History Museum who worked on the project, said, "It really shows up the project, said, "It really shows up the project, said, "It really shows up that these imaginary racial categories that these imaginary racial categories that these imaginary racial categories that we have that we have that we have really, really modern constructs of or really, really modern constructs of or really, really modern constructs of or recent constructions are not really recent constructions are not really recent constructions are not really applicable to the past at all." applicable to the past at all." applicable to the past at all." A A computational biologist at A A computational biologist at A A computational biologist at University College London and another University College London and another University College London and another member of the project's team agreed, member of the project's team agreed, member of the project's team agreed, saying the connection often drawn saying the connection often drawn saying the connection often drawn between Britishness between Britishness between Britishness and whiteness was a not an immutable and whiteness was a not an immutable and whiteness was a not an immutable truth. It has always changed and will truth. It has always changed and will truth. It has always changed and will change. The findings were revealed ahead change. The findings were revealed ahead change. The findings were revealed ahead of a Channel 4 documentary that tracked of a Channel 4 documentary that tracked of a Channel 4 documentary that tracked the ancient DNA project at the Natural the ancient DNA project at the Natural the ancient DNA project at the Natural History Museum in London as well as History Museum in London as well as History Museum in London as well as creating a new forensic reconstruction creating a new forensic reconstruction creating a new forensic reconstruction of Cheddar Man's head. To fund DNA DNA of Cheddar Man's head. To fund DNA DNA of Cheddar Man's head. To fund DNA DNA analysis, museum scientists had drilled analysis, museum scientists had drilled analysis, museum scientists had drilled a 2 mm diameter hole in the ancient a 2 mm diameter hole in the ancient a 2 mm diameter hole in the ancient skull to turn a few milligrams of bone skull to turn a few milligrams of bone skull to turn a few milligrams of bone powder from which they were then able to
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powder from which they were then able to powder from which they were then able to extract a full genome which held clues extract a full genome which held clues extract a full genome which held clues about this ancient relative's appearance about this ancient relative's appearance about this ancient relative's appearance and lifestyle. So, there we go. So, and lifestyle. So, there we go. So, and lifestyle. So, there we go. So, again, how far back do you want to go? again, how far back do you want to go? again, how far back do you want to go? And by the way, you have the right to And by the way, you have the right to And by the way, you have the right to exist. exist. exist. >> So, now you're using history, but when >> So, now you're using history, but when >> So, now you're using history, but when we said it was history, then you went we said it was history, then you went we said it was history, then you went one generation back. I've gone to the one generation back. I've gone to the one generation back. I've gone to the beginning. I've gone to the beginning, beginning. I've gone to the beginning, beginning. I've gone to the beginning, which would be that science suggests which would be that science suggests which would be that science suggests that mankind was born in Africa and made that mankind was born in Africa and made that mankind was born in Africa and made in Africa and it you know it spread out in Africa and it you know it spread out in Africa and it you know it spread out to all the different whatevers. to all the different whatevers. to all the different whatevers. And now I'm saying well if you go that And now I'm saying well if you go that And now I'm saying well if you go that far back then you have African you're far back then you have African you're far back then you have African you're African. A lot of things have happened between A lot of things have happened between then and now but why does that matter? then and now but why does that matter? then and now but why does that matter? If we go on one generation back why does If we go on one generation back why does If we go on one generation back why does that matter about the things that have that matter about the things that have that matter about the things that have happened between then and now? You can't happened between then and now? You can't happened between then and now? You can't have it both ways you speak oh well no have it both ways you speak oh well no have it both ways you speak oh well no English identity is one generation back English identity is one generation back English identity is one generation back but similarly I'm going to talk about but similarly I'm going to talk about but similarly I'm going to talk about ancestry but if the ancestry isn't the ancestry but if the ancestry isn't the ancestry but if the ancestry isn't the ancestry I like then no. If it goes ancestry I like then no. If it goes ancestry I like then no. If it goes further back than my specific date then further back than my specific date then further back than my specific date then no. So which is it? You can't you can't no. So which is it? You can't you can't no. So which is it? You can't you can't speak about ancestry but then when you speak about ancestry but then when you speak about ancestry but then when you actually get the to the crux of ancestry actually get the to the crux of ancestry actually get the to the crux of ancestry you you discard it. How does that work you you discard it. How does that work you you discard it. How does that work you know? Well what you're what you're you know? Well what you're what you're you know? Well what you're what you're talking about is being white basically.
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talking about is being white basically. talking about is being white basically. No no no no no no no it's not it's not No no no no no no no it's not it's not No no no no no no no it's not it's not it's not about being white no no I it's not about being white no no I it's not about being white no no I didn't say that I didn't say that. didn't say that I didn't say that. didn't say that I didn't say that. Just look at the squirming of this like Just look at the squirming of this like Just look at the squirming of this like mate come on. You're a smart bloke mate come on. You're a smart bloke mate come on. You're a smart bloke you're better than this. Say white English white English might be Say white English white English might be But white white has nothing to do with But white white has nothing to do with But white white has nothing to do with it. it. it. >> English is coming from England. Where is >> English is coming from England. Where is >> English is coming from England. Where is coming from then? Well born here growing coming from then? Well born here growing coming from then? Well born here growing up here the only place you've ever up here the only place you've ever up here the only place you've ever known. So if so if I was born in China known. So if so if I was born in China known. So if so if I was born in China would I Yes if you if you were born in would I Yes if you if you were born in would I Yes if you if you were born in China you would spend your whole life in China you would spend your whole life in China you would spend your whole life in China you spoke Chinese you integrated China you spoke Chinese you integrated China you spoke Chinese you integrated perfectly in society I see no reason why perfectly in society I see no reason why perfectly in society I see no reason why you couldn't be Chinese. I think I think where where I agree with I think I think where where I agree with your point is that I do think it is more your point is that I do think it is more your point is that I do think it is more than being handed a passport that gives than being handed a passport that gives than being handed a passport that gives you your nationality. I do think that you your nationality. I do think that you your nationality. I do think that that that is more but when Nana that that is more but when Nana that that is more but when Nana asked about her children you didn't asked about her children you didn't asked about her children you didn't bring in ethnicity into them being bring in ethnicity into them being bring in ethnicity into them being English you said okay they're half English you said okay they're half English you said okay they're half English. You didn't say well actually no English. You didn't say well actually no English. You didn't say well actually no that that that that skin tone would that that that that skin tone would that that that that skin tone would would change that. So I don't think it's would change that. So I don't think it's would change that. So I don't think it's fair for you to bring in Of course it is because he just Of course it is because he just racialized it racialized it racialized it because the only difference between him because the only difference between him because the only difference between him if he lived his whole life in China if he lived his whole life in China if he lived his whole life in China spoke Chinese never knew any other place spoke Chinese never knew any other place spoke Chinese never knew any other place why couldn't he be he says it's a why couldn't he be he says it's a why couldn't he be he says it's a ludicrous idea that he couldn't be ludicrous idea that he couldn't be ludicrous idea that he couldn't be Chinese Chinese Chinese because he doesn't look like other because he doesn't look like other because he doesn't look like other Chinese people.
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Chinese people. Chinese people. The reason [laughter] why hang on the The reason [laughter] why hang on the The reason [laughter] why hang on the reason why is because I don't believe reason why is because I don't believe reason why is because I don't believe that the Chinese would accept me as one that the Chinese would accept me as one that the Chinese would accept me as one of their own. Well English people of their own. Well English people of their own. Well English people because they're that's not what you because they're that's not what you because they're that's not what you whether you believe they'll accept you whether you believe they'll accept you whether you believe they'll accept you or not isn't the point. So long as So long as he's he's speaking about China accepting he's he's speaking about China accepting he's he's speaking about China accepting somebody being Chinese as a reason why somebody being Chinese as a reason why somebody being Chinese as a reason why in being English isn't ethnicity but at in being English isn't ethnicity but at in being English isn't ethnicity but at the same time English is not an the same time English is not an the same time English is not an ethnicity it's to do with one generation ethnicity it's to do with one generation ethnicity it's to do with one generation heritage but then at the same time heritage but then at the same time heritage but then at the same time I don't get why he's using that example I don't get why he's using that example I don't get why he's using that example because you just see how he's playing because you just see how he's playing because you just see how he's playing fast and loose again say how it is. fast and loose again say how it is. fast and loose again say how it is. Say it how it is but they don't want it. Say it how it is but they don't want it. Say it how it is but they don't want it. So you say that because I'm black people So you say that because I'm black people So you say that because I'm black people won't accept me. won't accept me. won't accept me. I'm not going down that road. I love I'm not going down that road. I love I'm not going down that road. I love that like I've been speaking about that like I've been speaking about that like I've been speaking about ancestry heritage and all this I've been ancestry heritage and all this I've been ancestry heritage and all this I've been speaking about ethnicity in China but am speaking about ethnicity in China but am speaking about ethnicity in China but am I English because I'm black I'm not I English because I'm black I'm not I English because I'm black I'm not going down that road. Come on come on going down that road. Come on come on going down that road. Come on come on he's acting like they've been speaking he's acting like they've been speaking he's acting like they've been speaking about like the economy and all of a about like the economy and all of a about like the economy and all of a sudden that is sudden that is sudden that is like this goes hand in hand with what like this goes hand in hand with what like this goes hand in hand with what you're saying mate. You you're saying mate. You you're saying mate. You again just just say how it is but again again just just say how it is but again again just just say how it is but again they they they don't cuz it's they they they don't cuz it's they they they don't cuz it's uncomfortable they they don't want to uncomfortable they they don't want to uncomfortable they they don't want to speak about this.
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speak about this. speak about this. No because I I No because I I No because I I apparently English people are white and apparently English people are white and apparently English people are white and all this but you're all this but you're all this but you're well then why are you using the Chinese well then why are you using the Chinese well then why are you using the Chinese analogy then with you being Chinese if analogy then with you being Chinese if analogy then with you being Chinese if you didn't look Chinese are you now you didn't look Chinese are you now you didn't look Chinese are you now saying that you couldn't be Chinese if saying that you couldn't be Chinese if saying that you couldn't be Chinese if you were born in China that's what I'm you were born in China that's what I'm you were born in China that's what I'm asking you. The reason I brought the asking you. The reason I brought the asking you. The reason I brought the Chinese point in is because nobody would Chinese point in is because nobody would Chinese point in is because nobody would deny that Chinese is a is an ethnicity deny that Chinese is a is an ethnicity deny that Chinese is a is an ethnicity it is a group. it is a group. it is a group. So then say English is an ethnicity he So then say English is an ethnicity he So then say English is an ethnicity he he just keeps on going back and forth I he just keeps on going back and forth I he just keeps on going back and forth I mean he doesn't know himself what he mean he doesn't know himself what he mean he doesn't know himself what he thinks on this. that exists, right? And thinks on this. that exists, right? And thinks on this. that exists, right? And if I was born in China if I was born in China if I was born in China as an Englishman, that wouldn't make me as an Englishman, that wouldn't make me as an Englishman, that wouldn't make me Chinese. Just as if somebody who is Chinese. Just as if somebody who is Chinese. Just as if somebody who is Chinese was born in England. Chinese was born in England. Chinese was born in England. English isn't an ethnicity, but then why English isn't an ethnicity, but then why English isn't an ethnicity, but then why can't I not be English? Why can't I be can't I not be English? Why can't I be can't I not be English? Why can't I be English? English? English? >> I'm not English. If you're saying it's >> I'm not English. If you're saying it's >> I'm not English. If you're saying it's not about race, then why can't the two not about race, then why can't the two not about race, then why can't the two of us be English? Because you've already of us be English? Because you've already of us be English? Because you've already said that you're from Eastern Europe. My said that you're from Eastern Europe. My said that you're from Eastern Europe. My my my great-grandparents. I was born my my great-grandparents. I was born my my great-grandparents. I was born here. Okay. My my my grandmother was here. Okay. My my my grandmother was here. Okay. My my my grandmother was born in my my great-great-grandparents. born in my my great-great-grandparents. born in my my great-great-grandparents. I think you might be English according I think you might be English according I think you might be English according to Charlie. to Charlie. to Charlie. Mhm? Say it. Was your dad English? Cuz Mhm? Say it. Was your dad English? Cuz Mhm? Say it. Was your dad English? Cuz if he was, then I think you might be if he was, then I think you might be if he was, then I think you might be English according to his uh My father English according to his uh My father English according to his uh My father was born in Poland. Okay. So, my neither was born in Poland. Okay. So, my neither was born in Poland. Okay. So, my neither my parents my parents my parents Well, I mean Yes.
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Well, I mean Yes. Well, I mean Yes. >> I call it to your definition. Wait, if >> I call it to your definition. Wait, if >> I call it to your definition. Wait, if you asked your if you asked your dad, you asked your if you asked your dad, you asked your if you asked your dad, what would he what would he what would he >> Well, he would he wouldn't say he was >> Well, he would he wouldn't say he was >> Well, he would he wouldn't say he was Polish at all. What, despite the fact Polish at all. What, despite the fact Polish at all. What, despite the fact that he was born in Poland? that he was born in Poland? that he was born in Poland? >> Well, he was born in Poland. Well, he >> Well, he was born in Poland. Well, he >> Well, he was born in Poland. Well, he was born in Poland. Well, I mean, if you was born in Poland. Well, I mean, if you was born in Poland. Well, I mean, if you can go back don't die But again, Charlie can go back don't die But again, Charlie can go back don't die But again, Charlie said, you know, if you're born here, it said, you know, if you're born here, it said, you know, if you're born here, it doesn't make you English. If you have a doesn't make you English. If you have a doesn't make you English. If you have a British passport, it doesn't make you British passport, it doesn't make you British passport, it doesn't make you So, what He he spoke about his dad So, what He he spoke about his dad So, what He he spoke about his dad coming from Poland, being born there, coming from Poland, being born there, coming from Poland, being born there, but that contradicts your whole point but that contradicts your whole point but that contradicts your whole point about how about how about how um being English is not simply being um being English is not simply being um being English is not simply being born here and having a passport. Which born here and having a passport. Which born here and having a passport. Which is it? You can't have it both ways where is it? You can't have it both ways where is it? You can't have it both ways where you're saying, "Well, he was born in you're saying, "Well, he was born in you're saying, "Well, he was born in Poland, so he's Polish." But you just Poland, so he's Polish." But you just Poland, so he's Polish." But you just said like you said the opposite about said like you said the opposite about said like you said the opposite about Britain. Britain. Britain. And that rather the whole of you want. And that rather the whole of you want. And that rather the whole of you want. If my grandparents were Holocaust If my grandparents were Holocaust If my grandparents were Holocaust survivors, they didn't exactly feel very survivors, they didn't exactly feel very survivors, they didn't exactly feel very welcome in Poland at the end of the war. welcome in Poland at the end of the war. welcome in Poland at the end of the war. So, Polish identity wasn't a thing that So, Polish identity wasn't a thing that So, Polish identity wasn't a thing that my father had and that I inherited. Uh my father had and that I inherited. Uh my father had and that I inherited. Uh and a lot of people what we're getting and a lot of people what we're getting and a lot of people what we're getting into now is quite the vexed question of into now is quite the vexed question of into now is quite the vexed question of mixed identities. An identity being mixed identities. An identity being mixed identities. An identity being actually quite a complicated thing. And actually quite a complicated thing. And actually quite a complicated thing. And that is why I so vigorously oppose what that is why I so vigorously oppose what that is why I so vigorously oppose what you're saying about Englishness being you're saying about Englishness being you're saying about Englishness being this ring-fenced idea. It's a group this ring-fenced idea. It's a group this ring-fenced idea. It's a group security that can't be vitiated. This is security that can't be vitiated. This is security that can't be vitiated. This is absolute nonsense. It's like popular absolute nonsense. It's like popular absolute nonsense. It's like popular It's genetic It's a geneticist argument.
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It's genetic It's a geneticist argument. It's genetic It's a geneticist argument. The only group that this argument is The only group that this argument is The only group that this argument is made against is the English. The English made against is the English. The English made against is the English. The English are the only group that are not allowed are the only group that are not allowed are the only group that are not allowed to have their own identity. to have their own identity. to have their own identity. But what is the identity? Just say it. But what is the identity? Just say it. But what is the identity? Just say it. Like Like Like it's tiring. Just if you think that we it's tiring. Just if you think that we it's tiring. Just if you think that we should speak like you you just can't should speak like you you just can't should speak like you you just can't have it both ways. And then when Nana have it both ways. And then when Nana have it both ways. And then when Nana asks you something, you get so asks you something, you get so asks you something, you get so uncomfortable. uncomfortable. uncomfortable. But you don't answer the question. She But you don't answer the question. She But you don't answer the question. She Like if you're going to pronounce Like if you're going to pronounce Like if you're going to pronounce something, at least something, at least something, at least go to where it heads. Don't run away go to where it heads. Don't run away go to where it heads. Don't run away from it when actually somebody says, from it when actually somebody says, from it when actually somebody says, "This is what you're saying." No, I'm "This is what you're saying." No, I'm "This is what you're saying." No, I'm not going to go there. not going to go there. not going to go there. But you're arguing this thing here. You But you're arguing this thing here. You But you're arguing this thing here. You you're playing fast and loose with the you're playing fast and loose with the you're playing fast and loose with the truth. I this is I I say that white you truth. I this is I I say that white you truth. I this is I I say that white you can say that white Look, the problem can say that white Look, the problem can say that white Look, the problem with White is nothing, Jonathan. Your with White is nothing, Jonathan. Your with White is nothing, Jonathan. Your white English can be an ethnicity. Your white English can be an ethnicity. Your white English can be an ethnicity. Your white English can be an ethnicity. White white English can be an ethnicity. White white English can be an ethnicity. White is nothing. is nothing. is nothing. >> Well, because in that case, what is the >> Well, because in that case, what is the >> Well, because in that case, what is the difference between the two of us and difference between the two of us and difference between the two of us and you? And I do have white skin, by the you? And I do have white skin, by the you? And I do have white skin, by the way. But you say I'm not English. So, way. But you say I'm not English. So, way. But you say I'm not English. So, why? Because it's an ethnicity. why? Because it's an ethnicity. why? Because it's an ethnicity. >> Okay, so why can't I be part of the >> Okay, so why can't I be part of the >> Okay, so why can't I be part of the ethnicity? Well, my I just told you my ethnicity? Well, my I just told you my ethnicity? Well, my I just told you my great-grandparents My great-grandparents great-grandparents My great-grandparents great-grandparents My great-grandparents were born It's about your ancestry. You were born It's about your ancestry. You were born It's about your ancestry. You said it again.
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said it again. said it again. Why can't I be part of the ethnicity Why can't I be part of the ethnicity Why can't I be part of the ethnicity then? Is I think the the problem here is then? Is I think the the problem here is then? Is I think the the problem here is that the argument sort of um it's like a that the argument sort of um it's like a that the argument sort of um it's like a loop because when you get to try and get loop because when you get to try and get loop because when you get to try and get to the minutiae of it, it then doesn't to the minutiae of it, it then doesn't to the minutiae of it, it then doesn't make sense. And then it it it doesn't make sense. And then it it it doesn't make sense. And then it it it doesn't kind of work. kind of work. kind of work. >> But the thing is these these are not >> But the thing is these these are not >> But the thing is these these are not these are not black and white these are not black and white these are not black and white categories. categories. categories. >> no. They Well, they they they they they >> no. They Well, they they they they they >> no. They Well, they they they they they they You're you're you're you're you're they You're you're you're you're you're they You're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're When you did the Chinese you're you're When you did the Chinese you're you're When you did the Chinese Nazi stuff, I'm I'm sorry, that's when Nazi stuff, I'm I'm sorry, that's when Nazi stuff, I'm I'm sorry, that's when your your whole sort of philosophy fell your your whole sort of philosophy fell your your whole sort of philosophy fell apart. But let let's bring in my apart. But let let's bring in my apart. But let let's bring in my partner. partner. partner. But anyway, I think to finish off cuz But anyway, I think to finish off cuz But anyway, I think to finish off cuz it's quite depressing all this identity it's quite depressing all this identity it's quite depressing all this identity nonsense, right? Let's speak Let's Let's nonsense, right? Let's speak Let's Let's nonsense, right? Let's speak Let's Let's do a bit of the old classic Nick Griffin do a bit of the old classic Nick Griffin do a bit of the old classic Nick Griffin Coney. Who were the three men? They were Coney. Who were the three men? They were Coney. Who were the three men? They were men who came to Britain on a small boat. men who came to Britain on a small boat. men who came to Britain on a small boat. To say that is not To say that is not To say that is not Stop right there. Stop right there. Stop right there. Sorry, mate. What What was that? Did you just laugh? Yeah, what you're Did you just laugh? Yeah, what you're laughing at, you fat Did you just laughing at, you fat Did you just laughing at, you fat Did you just laugh? Did you get that? laugh? Did you get that? laugh? Did you get that? Yes, he did say that. You lefty Yes, he did say that. You lefty Yes, he did say that. You lefty Mate, I swear Mate, I swear Mate, I swear on everything that's holy, mate. Yeah.
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on everything that's holy, mate. Yeah. on everything that's holy, mate. Yeah. YOU LEFTY LEEDS. LEEDS. >> ALL RIGHT, WELL, >> ALL RIGHT, WELL, >> ALL RIGHT, WELL, a bit of a car crash clip, to be honest, a bit of a car crash clip, to be honest, a bit of a car crash clip, to be honest, but um yeah, Nick Tenconi, he's back on but um yeah, Nick Tenconi, he's back on but um yeah, Nick Tenconi, he's back on the scene. We we've got to go back to the scene. We we've got to go back to the scene. We we've got to go back to some Nick Tenconi, I think, cuz we've some Nick Tenconi, I think, cuz we've some Nick Tenconi, I think, cuz we've got to bring back a little bit of humor got to bring back a little bit of humor got to bring back a little bit of humor to this this dark show. Um but, you to this this dark show. Um but, you to this this dark show. Um but, you know, bottom line is most people don't know, bottom line is most people don't know, bottom line is most people don't care about race. Most people don't care care about race. Most people don't care care about race. Most people don't care about, you know, they're not obsessed by about, you know, they're not obsessed by about, you know, they're not obsessed by this identity nonsense. They want to pay this identity nonsense. They want to pay this identity nonsense. They want to pay the bills, they want to fix the the bills, they want to fix the the bills, they want to fix the potholes, you know, they want to reduce potholes, you know, they want to reduce potholes, you know, they want to reduce immigration, immigration, immigration, you know, that you know, that you know, that most people don't care about race. Um most people don't care about race. Um most people don't care about race. Um and it's the worst parts of our politics and it's the worst parts of our politics and it's the worst parts of our politics that are pushing this stuff. And that are pushing this stuff. And that are pushing this stuff. And you know, we beat we beat the National you know, we beat we beat the National you know, we beat we beat the National Front. I'm not I'm not saying that we're Front. I'm not I'm not saying that we're Front. I'm not I'm not saying that we're still Britain of the National Front, but still Britain of the National Front, but still Britain of the National Front, but there there is there are similarities, there there is there are similarities, there there is there are similarities, it's got to be said. it's got to be said. it's got to be said. Um you know, we've bought we've fought Um you know, we've bought we've fought Um you know, we've bought we've fought wars, we've wars, we've wars, we've we've beat all this stuff, and it's not we've beat all this stuff, and it's not we've beat all this stuff, and it's not going to come back because going to come back because going to come back because people don't want it. People don't want people don't want it. People don't want people don't want it. People don't want people obsessing by race, people people obsessing by race, people people obsessing by race, people screaming about Anglo-Saxon identities.
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screaming about Anglo-Saxon identities. screaming about Anglo-Saxon identities. It's it's a thing of the past. Um It's it's a thing of the past. Um It's it's a thing of the past. Um they'll get a few votes, they'll get a they'll get a few votes, they'll get a they'll get a few votes, they'll get a bit of popularity, but they're not going bit of popularity, but they're not going bit of popularity, but they're not going to they're not going to win a national to they're not going to win a national to they're not going to win a national election, they're not. Um because most election, they're not. Um because most election, they're not. Um because most most people have love in their hearts. most people have love in their hearts. most people have love in their hearts. Most people are good. And um Most people are good. And um Most people are good. And um and if you're one of these people that and if you're one of these people that and if you're one of these people that support Restore Britain, God bless you. support Restore Britain, God bless you. support Restore Britain, God bless you. And I I just hope you wake up a bit to And I I just hope you wake up a bit to And I I just hope you wake up a bit to you're playing with fire. Like, even if you're playing with fire. Like, even if you're playing with fire. Like, even if you're not overly obsessed by kind of you're not overly obsessed by kind of you're not overly obsessed by kind of whiteness and stuff, like, and you don't whiteness and stuff, like, and you don't whiteness and stuff, like, and you don't even care about it, like, you're playing even care about it, like, you're playing even care about it, like, you're playing with people who do. You do care about with people who do. You do care about with people who do. You do care about it, You know, look at Saskia, why it, You know, look at Saskia, why it, You know, look at Saskia, why British pound? That's what she said. Um, British pound? That's what she said. Um, British pound? That's what she said. Um, so I just implore you like you're so I just implore you like you're so I just implore you like you're playing with fire and um playing with fire and um playing with fire and um you know, it it takes real humility and you know, it it takes real humility and you know, it it takes real humility and bravery to step out of that and I hope bravery to step out of that and I hope bravery to step out of that and I hope you do. Yeah, God bless all of you. I you do. Yeah, God bless all of you. I you do. Yeah, God bless all of you. I love you all and I'll see you all next love you all and I'll see you all next love you all and I'll see you all next Friday soon. Peace.
Summary
The discussion centers on the identitarian, anti-Jesus message within the right-wing British political party, Restore Britain. A speaker was disinvited from a youth wing launch due to concerns about violating Electoral Commission guidelines or equality law, stemming from a tweet advocating for a "white, British, and proud" vision. The practical takeaway is the need for more precise rhetoric given the constraints of the political environment.