Oxford Mathematician: "Jesus Is God" | The Logic Behind it (John Lennox)

You don't know what either consciousness You don't know what either consciousness or energy are. Do you believe in them? or energy are. Do you believe in them? or energy are. Do you believe in them? And he said, "Yes, I do." I said, "Why? And he said, "Yes, I do." I said, "Why? And he said, "Yes, I do." I said, "Why? Why do you believe in things you don't Why do you believe in things you don't Why do you believe in things you don't know what they are?" So, that was a bit know what they are?" So, that was a bit know what they are?" So, that was a bit of a struggle. And I said, "I expect of a struggle. And I said, "I expect of a struggle. And I said, "I expect part of the reason is because somehow part of the reason is because somehow part of the reason is because somehow these concepts have enough meaning these concepts have enough meaning these concepts have enough meaning uh to give you a sense of they have uh to give you a sense of they have uh to give you a sense of they have explanatory power." He said, "That's explanatory power." He said, "That's explanatory power." He said, "That's right." Now, he said, right." Now, he said, right." Now, he said, "Those were easier questions than the "Those were easier questions than the "Those were easier questions than the ones the one you asked me. ones the one you asked me. ones the one you asked me. And if you can't explain energy and And if you can't explain energy and And if you can't explain energy and consciousness, do you think I'm going to consciousness, do you think I'm going to consciousness, do you think I'm going to be able to explain to you how God can be able to explain to you how God can be able to explain to you how God can become human? Of course, I can't. become human? Of course, I can't. become human? Of course, I can't. However, However, However, I believe in it because I believe in it because I believe in it because as I consider all the evidence I face, as I consider all the evidence I face, as I consider all the evidence I face, it's the only explanation it's the only explanation it's the only explanation that makes sense of all the rest." He that makes sense of all the rest." He that makes sense of all the rest." He said, "I will buy that. Let's go on said, "I will buy that. Let's go on said, "I will buy that. Let's go on talking." So, we had a marvelous talking." So, we had a marvelous talking." So, we had a marvelous conversation from it. And conversation from it. And conversation from it. And I do understand that very well. It I was I do understand that very well. It I was I do understand that very well. It I was reflecting on it just the other day.

reflecting on it just the other day. reflecting on it just the other day. What a huge thing it is actually to What a huge thing it is actually to What a huge thing it is actually to believe this. Yeah. believe this. Yeah. believe this. Yeah. >> And yet, I do. And here I am at the age >> And yet, I do. And here I am at the age >> And yet, I do. And here I am at the age of 82. And in one sense, my faith is of 82. And in one sense, my faith is of 82. And in one sense, my faith is stronger than ever, mostly because I've stronger than ever, mostly because I've stronger than ever, mostly because I've listened carefully listened carefully listened carefully to people who take opposing views or to people who take opposing views or to people who take opposing views or make inquiries like you do. make inquiries like you do. make inquiries like you do. I try my best. I try my best. I try my best. >> I love this clip cuz John Lennox >> I love this clip cuz John Lennox >> I love this clip cuz John Lennox obviously is an incredible mathematician obviously is an incredible mathematician obviously is an incredible mathematician from Oxford, and he's someone who has from Oxford, and he's someone who has from Oxford, and he's someone who has really listened and heard the opposing really listened and heard the opposing really listened and heard the opposing view. Now, there's not everything I view. Now, there's not everything I view. Now, there's not everything I agree with on John John Lennox. agree with on John John Lennox. agree with on John John Lennox. Sometimes I think he asserts things that Sometimes I think he asserts things that Sometimes I think he asserts things that can't be asserted almost. Um but he's a can't be asserted almost. Um but he's a can't be asserted almost. Um but he's a he is a good debater, I think, and he he is a good debater, I think, and he he is a good debater, I think, and he does do a great job with Christianity. does do a great job with Christianity. does do a great job with Christianity. And in this clip, I think what he says And in this clip, I think what he says And in this clip, I think what he says here about for some reason, I still here about for some reason, I still here about for some reason, I still believe it. And he really kind of believe it. And he really kind of believe it. And he really kind of summarizes how crazy it actually is to summarizes how crazy it actually is to summarizes how crazy it actually is to believe that Jesus is God, that God, the believe that Jesus is God, that God, the believe that Jesus is God, that God, the person who created the skies, the person who created the skies, the person who created the skies, the mountains, the universe, the hills, the mountains, the universe, the hills, the mountains, the universe, the hills, the water we drink, all of that came down in water we drink, all of that came down in water we drink, all of that came down in the person of Jesus, and he was a the person of Jesus, and he was a the person of Jesus, and he was a Nazarene, he went around, he drank Nazarene, he went around, he drank Nazarene, he went around, he drank alcohol, he he ate fish, he went with alcohol, he he ate fish, he went with alcohol, he he ate fish, he went with all sorts of different people. The all sorts of different people. The all sorts of different people. The notion that God walked among us is so notion that God walked among us is so notion that God walked among us is so perplexing when you really think about perplexing when you really think about perplexing when you really think about it. Now, it's it's not the most profound it. Now, it's it's not the most profound it. Now, it's it's not the most profound trip ever, but I just think it's it has trip ever, but I just think it's it has trip ever, but I just think it's it has a lot of weight because of who John John a lot of weight because of who John John a lot of weight because of who John John Lennox is, you know? And the notion that Lennox is, you know? And the notion that Lennox is, you know? And the notion that our appetite for explanation somehow is

our appetite for explanation somehow is our appetite for explanation somehow is sufficed in Jesus, I think is within sufficed in Jesus, I think is within sufficed in Jesus, I think is within itself an argument for it being true, itself an argument for it being true, itself an argument for it being true, you know? I I think like whenever I I do you know? I I think like whenever I I do you know? I I think like whenever I I do these videos, you know, I look at what these videos, you know, I look at what these videos, you know, I look at what wasn't included in the Bible, what wasn't included in the Bible, what wasn't included in the Bible, what arguments about Matthew, or like the you arguments about Matthew, or like the you arguments about Matthew, or like the you know, Bart speaking about the Sermon on know, Bart speaking about the Sermon on know, Bart speaking about the Sermon on the Mount, and how, you know, did Jesus the Mount, and how, you know, did Jesus the Mount, and how, you know, did Jesus say that? Or like even yesterday I was I say that? Or like even yesterday I was I say that? Or like even yesterday I was I was looking at a fascinating historian was looking at a fascinating historian was looking at a fascinating historian speaking about atonement, was that speaking about atonement, was that speaking about atonement, was that invented and stuff. All these things do invented and stuff. All these things do invented and stuff. All these things do culminate in believing was this man, culminate in believing was this man, culminate in believing was this man, Jesus, God? Was he creator of the Jesus, God? Was he creator of the Jesus, God? Was he creator of the universe, fully human, fully God? And universe, fully human, fully God? And universe, fully human, fully God? And it's something that is so magnificent it's something that is so magnificent it's something that is so magnificent and bonkers to actually believe. And I and bonkers to actually believe. And I and bonkers to actually believe. And I think we must remember this because when think we must remember this because when think we must remember this because when we have doubts, when we have things we have doubts, when we have things we have doubts, when we have things like, well, maybe this isn't true, maybe like, well, maybe this isn't true, maybe like, well, maybe this isn't true, maybe this maybe that, maybe we've got it this maybe that, maybe we've got it this maybe that, maybe we've got it wrong, maybe this Jesus didn't say that, wrong, maybe this Jesus didn't say that, wrong, maybe this Jesus didn't say that, maybe Jesus said this. All these maybe Jesus said this. All these maybe Jesus said this. All these questions we have, I think is one thing questions we have, I think is one thing questions we have, I think is one thing to remember, what we are believing is to remember, what we are believing is to remember, what we are believing is bonkers. It is absolutely bonkers. The bonkers. It is absolutely bonkers. The bonkers. It is absolutely bonkers. The notion that God walked around. I mean, notion that God walked around. I mean, notion that God walked around. I mean, it's like it's like our greatest dream, it's like it's like our greatest dream, it's like it's like our greatest dream, but that's reality, and that's what we but that's reality, and that's what we but that's reality, and that's what we actually believe. Like it's a it's a actually believe. Like it's a it's a actually believe. Like it's a it's a bonkers thing, and I have doubts all all bonkers thing, and I have doubts all all bonkers thing, and I have doubts all all time. I wouldn't have say my faith time. I wouldn't have say my faith time. I wouldn't have say my faith pretty secure because I feel with my pretty secure because I feel with my pretty secure because I feel with my journey of faith, the more I discover, journey of faith, the more I discover, journey of faith, the more I discover, the more in a way liberal I become to the more in a way liberal I become to the more in a way liberal I become to scripture, but also my view of scripture, but also my view of scripture, but also my view of importance of scripture changes. So, importance of scripture changes. So, importance of scripture changes. So, like like like for instance, I was reading Genesis for instance, I was reading Genesis for instance, I was reading Genesis today and when I was reading it, I was

today and when I was reading it, I was today and when I was reading it, I was thinking how incredible Genesis is about thinking how incredible Genesis is about thinking how incredible Genesis is about the order of things and how the betrayal the order of things and how the betrayal the order of things and how the betrayal and the the you know, the the tree of and the the you know, the the tree of and the the you know, the the tree of knowledge and just the profound wisdom knowledge and just the profound wisdom knowledge and just the profound wisdom and almost trust we must have in God and and almost trust we must have in God and and almost trust we must have in God and the creator of the universe. Now, almost the creator of the universe. Now, almost the creator of the universe. Now, almost all theologians I'm pretty sure now all theologians I'm pretty sure now all theologians I'm pretty sure now believe that Genesis was a kind of believe that Genesis was a kind of believe that Genesis was a kind of mixture of poetry with history. You mixture of poetry with history. You mixture of poetry with history. You know, you've got William Lane Craig, the know, you've got William Lane Craig, the know, you've got William Lane Craig, the incredible Christian theologian speaking incredible Christian theologian speaking incredible Christian theologian speaking about the evidence for Adam and Eve and about the evidence for Adam and Eve and about the evidence for Adam and Eve and how that intertwines with us being Homo how that intertwines with us being Homo how that intertwines with us being Homo sapiens and evolution and there's a sapiens and evolution and there's a sapiens and evolution and there's a whole plethora of things that I really whole plethora of things that I really whole plethora of things that I really want to look into and stuff, but I think want to look into and stuff, but I think want to look into and stuff, but I think it's it has such weight to something it's it has such weight to something it's it has such weight to something could not definitely be completely true, could not definitely be completely true, could not definitely be completely true, but that does not mean it is not true. but that does not mean it is not true. but that does not mean it is not true. And that does not mean there is massive And that does not mean there is massive And that does not mean there is massive truth you can take from it because you truth you can take from it because you truth you can take from it because you can read fiction, I commend them with can read fiction, I commend them with can read fiction, I commend them with Narnia like I've been doing with George Narnia like I've been doing with George Narnia like I've been doing with George Orwell and you can take truth from that Orwell and you can take truth from that Orwell and you can take truth from that and it can explode your brain in so many and it can explode your brain in so many and it can explode your brain in so many different avenues and pathways that different avenues and pathways that different avenues and pathways that would never been possible with something would never been possible with something would never been possible with something that was just literally true. And I that was just literally true. And I that was just literally true. And I think this this really goes to the heart think this this really goes to the heart think this this really goes to the heart of it. And often people say, well, with of it. And often people say, well, with of it. And often people say, well, with Jesus Jesus didn't say this in the Jesus Jesus didn't say this in the Jesus Jesus didn't say this in the Sermon on the Mount or Jesus didn't say Sermon on the Mount or Jesus didn't say Sermon on the Mount or Jesus didn't say that or you know, he was speaking in that or you know, he was speaking in that or you know, he was speaking in Aramaic in his speech and to these type Aramaic in his speech and to these type Aramaic in his speech and to these type of people or you know, the original of people or you know, the original of people or you know, the original manuscript from Greek and you know, the manuscript from Greek and you know, the manuscript from Greek and you know, the list goes on and on and on or like the list goes on and on and on or like the list goes on and on and on or like the Gospel of Thomas or like what if this Gospel of Thomas or like what if this Gospel of Thomas or like what if this was included, it would have completely was included, it would have completely was included, it would have completely changed the structure of how we view changed the structure of how we view changed the structure of how we view stuff or like the prophecies about, you stuff or like the prophecies about, you stuff or like the prophecies about, you know, being born in Bethlehem and then

know, being born in Bethlehem and then know, being born in Bethlehem and then like did that happen? And you know, like did that happen? And you know, like did that happen? And you know, there's there's so many questions and I there's there's so many questions and I there's there's so many questions and I am a absolute baby to this knowledge am a absolute baby to this knowledge am a absolute baby to this knowledge really. And this is what the podcast is really. And this is what the podcast is really. And this is what the podcast is about just open faith me basically about just open faith me basically about just open faith me basically saying what's on my mind saying what I'm saying what's on my mind saying what I'm saying what's on my mind saying what I'm interested in speaking about the stuff. interested in speaking about the stuff. interested in speaking about the stuff. I think one thing to hold on to is I think one thing to hold on to is I think one thing to hold on to is even if there are things in the Gospels even if there are things in the Gospels even if there are things in the Gospels that Jesus didn't say, even if there are that Jesus didn't say, even if there are that Jesus didn't say, even if there are things that were included that that things that were included that that things that were included that that shouldn't have been included, right? And shouldn't have been included, right? And shouldn't have been included, right? And people could say there are people could say there are people could say there are contradictions in the Bible and the contradictions in the Bible and the contradictions in the Bible and the Gospels and Gospels and Gospels and my view on that is I do think there are my view on that is I do think there are my view on that is I do think there are contradictions, but it's how you define contradictions, but it's how you define contradictions, but it's how you define contradictions. And I think it's contradictions. And I think it's contradictions. And I think it's dishonest to say there's they're not. dishonest to say there's they're not. dishonest to say there's they're not. Now, I know that will annoy a lot of Now, I know that will annoy a lot of Now, I know that will annoy a lot of Christians, but in the honesty of my my Christians, but in the honesty of my my Christians, but in the honesty of my my heart right now and what I know, I do heart right now and what I know, I do heart right now and what I know, I do think there are contradictions, but I think there are contradictions, but I think there are contradictions, but I don't think that that degrades the don't think that that degrades the don't think that that degrades the Bible. If anything, I think it gives it Bible. If anything, I think it gives it Bible. If anything, I think it gives it more weight in some way because it more weight in some way because it more weight in some way because it shows, you know, it's a real document shows, you know, it's a real document shows, you know, it's a real document written by humans. It's not something we written by humans. It's not something we written by humans. It's not something we go, "Oh, it's completely infallible." go, "Oh, it's completely infallible." go, "Oh, it's completely infallible." And that's one of the big difference And that's one of the big difference And that's one of the big difference between, you know, Christianity and between, you know, Christianity and between, you know, Christianity and Islam. Anyway, what I was saying was the Islam. Anyway, what I was saying was the Islam. Anyway, what I was saying was the fact that people thought that Jesus said fact that people thought that Jesus said fact that people thought that Jesus said them shows so much weight them shows so much weight them shows so much weight to who Jesus was because the fact that to who Jesus was because the fact that to who Jesus was because the fact that Jews or Gentiles back then came to these Jews or Gentiles back then came to these Jews or Gentiles back then came to these conclusions about this Nazarene conclusions about this Nazarene conclusions about this Nazarene that he said some things that maybe he that he said some things that maybe he that he said some things that maybe he didn't say is incredible cuz that meant didn't say is incredible cuz that meant didn't say is incredible cuz that meant that there was something he was saying, that there was something he was saying, that there was something he was saying, there was something he was speaking there was something he was speaking there was something he was speaking about that was so crazy that people about that was so crazy that people about that was so crazy that people managed to think he said something that managed to think he said something that managed to think he said something that maybe he didn't say. And it's like, you maybe he didn't say. And it's like, you maybe he didn't say. And it's like, you know, Churchill, there's a lot of know, Churchill, there's a lot of know, Churchill, there's a lot of sayings that people attribute some like

sayings that people attribute some like sayings that people attribute some like Churchill that he never said. Or there's Churchill that he never said. Or there's Churchill that he never said. Or there's famous people right history people think famous people right history people think famous people right history people think they said something they didn't say. But they said something they didn't say. But they said something they didn't say. But it's the fact that people came to the it's the fact that people came to the it's the fact that people came to the conclusion that they even would think he conclusion that they even would think he conclusion that they even would think he would say that. So, I'll give you an would say that. So, I'll give you an would say that. So, I'll give you an example. When Jesus says in the Sermon example. When Jesus says in the Sermon example. When Jesus says in the Sermon on the Mount, "Love your enemies." on the Mount, "Love your enemies." on the Mount, "Love your enemies." Did Jesus say that? Now, I think he he Did Jesus say that? Now, I think he he Did Jesus say that? Now, I think he he did say that because for them to say did say that because for them to say did say that because for them to say that was so contrary to the appetite of that was so contrary to the appetite of that was so contrary to the appetite of the people that they were speaking to. the people that they were speaking to. the people that they were speaking to. And we know that there was so much anger And we know that there was so much anger And we know that there was so much anger and etc. And you look at what's hap- and etc. And you look at what's hap- and etc. And you look at what's hap- what happened in 70 AD. A lot of what happened in 70 AD. A lot of what happened in 70 AD. A lot of historians say that Jesus did say that, historians say that Jesus did say that, historians say that Jesus did say that, right? However, let's say right? However, let's say right? However, let's say Je- Jesus never said that. The fact that Je- Jesus never said that. The fact that Je- Jesus never said that. The fact that people came to the conclusion that that people came to the conclusion that that people came to the conclusion that that can even be something possible that can even be something possible that can even be something possible that Jesus would say is mind-boggling, which Jesus would say is mind-boggling, which Jesus would say is mind-boggling, which means that he probably said something means that he probably said something means that he probably said something even more revolutionary than that that even more revolutionary than that that even more revolutionary than that that could have been even more diluted and could have been even more diluted and could have been even more diluted and died down. Or, if you look at the likes died down. Or, if you look at the likes died down. Or, if you look at the likes of John the Baptist, the fact that the of John the Baptist, the fact that the of John the Baptist, the fact that the gospel authors included that, and I was gospel authors included that, and I was gospel authors included that, and I was reading EP Sanders, the amazing reading EP Sanders, the amazing reading EP Sanders, the amazing historian, about how, you know, they historian, about how, you know, they historian, about how, you know, they would have been embarrassed to include would have been embarrassed to include would have been embarrassed to include John the Baptist because so many people John the Baptist because so many people John the Baptist because so many people thought that he was the Messiah. He was thought that he was the Messiah. He was thought that he was the Messiah. He was the person that the Jews were waiting the person that the Jews were waiting the person that the Jews were waiting for.

for. for. But, the fact that they included him and But, the fact that they included him and But, the fact that they included him and so close knit with Jesus shows that John so close knit with Jesus shows that John so close knit with Jesus shows that John the Baptist was such a pivotal figure the Baptist was such a pivotal figure the Baptist was such a pivotal figure within it and really was actually within it and really was actually within it and really was actually friends with Jesus, which really goes friends with Jesus, which really goes friends with Jesus, which really goes into the narrative of John the Baptist into the narrative of John the Baptist into the narrative of John the Baptist paving the way. Now, you could say paving the way. Now, you could say paving the way. Now, you could say skeptically they were kind of covering skeptically they were kind of covering skeptically they were kind of covering themselves cuz they knew that people themselves cuz they knew that people themselves cuz they knew that people would, you know, be like speak about would, you know, be like speak about would, you know, be like speak about John the Baptist, and if they'd been John the Baptist, and if they'd been John the Baptist, and if they'd been included, then there would have been a included, then there would have been a included, then there would have been a lot of outrage back then. I don't know. lot of outrage back then. I don't know. lot of outrage back then. I don't know. I need to look into it more, but it's I need to look into it more, but it's I need to look into it more, but it's it's really incredible when you really it's really incredible when you really it's really incredible when you really go deep into all these avenues. And I go deep into all these avenues. And I go deep into all these avenues. And I think it's important just to remember, think it's important just to remember, think it's important just to remember, you know, to believe that Jesus was God you know, to believe that Jesus was God you know, to believe that Jesus was God is bonkers. And for some reason, despite is bonkers. And for some reason, despite is bonkers. And for some reason, despite the suffering in the world, despite the the suffering in the world, despite the the suffering in the world, despite the despair, the hurt, the pain, the despair, the hurt, the pain, the despair, the hurt, the pain, the unfairness, the inequality, the list unfairness, the inequality, the list unfairness, the inequality, the list goes on. For some reason, goes on. For some reason, goes on. For some reason, I believe it. I believe that Jesus of I believe it. I believe that Jesus of I believe it. I believe that Jesus of Nazareth was God. I truly believe that Nazareth was God. I truly believe that Nazareth was God. I truly believe that God came in the flesh of him, and I God came in the flesh of him, and I God came in the flesh of him, and I believe he really, really did speak on believe he really, really did speak on believe he really, really did speak on behalf of God, and he was God. I really, behalf of God, and he was God. I really, behalf of God, and he was God. I really, really do believe that. Call me bonkers. really do believe that. Call me bonkers. really do believe that. Call me bonkers. Call me nuts, but I believe that. Um and Call me nuts, but I believe that. Um and Call me nuts, but I believe that. Um and so did billions of people, and some the so did billions of people, and some the so did billions of people, and some the smartest people throughout history have smartest people throughout history have smartest people throughout history have believed that, you know, Galileo and all believed that, you know, Galileo and all believed that, you know, Galileo and all these, you know, these, you know, these, you know, um and that's something to hold on to.

um and that's something to hold on to. um and that's something to hold on to. It is like there's a kind of It is like there's a kind of It is like there's a kind of intellectual intellectual intellectual cleansing, I think, of the story of cleansing, I think, of the story of cleansing, I think, of the story of Jesus. There is something that just Jesus. There is something that just Jesus. There is something that just screams true. Now, you could say, "Well, screams true. Now, you could say, "Well, screams true. Now, you could say, "Well, that's because I don't know about other that's because I don't know about other that's because I don't know about other stories of other Jews, who claims to stories of other Jews, who claims to stories of other Jews, who claims to have been the Messiah, etc., or people have been the Messiah, etc., or people have been the Messiah, etc., or people who supposedly rose from the dead and who supposedly rose from the dead and who supposedly rose from the dead and stuff like that." You could say that, stuff like that." You could say that, stuff like that." You could say that, and you could say, "Because of my own and you could say, "Because of my own and you could say, "Because of my own ignorance, I think this screams true, ignorance, I think this screams true, ignorance, I think this screams true, but if I knew more, I wouldn't." But, I but if I knew more, I wouldn't." But, I but if I knew more, I wouldn't." But, I will say to that, there are people who will say to that, there are people who will say to that, there are people who really do know about all these other really do know about all these other really do know about all these other stories, who still change their life, stories, who still change their life, stories, who still change their life, change the way they live, change the change the way they live, change the change the way they live, change the things they do with their money, change things they do with their money, change things they do with their money, change their relation with intimacy, with the their relation with intimacy, with the their relation with intimacy, with the poor, with the you know, there is poor, with the you know, there is poor, with the you know, there is something that moves people's hearts. something that moves people's hearts. something that moves people's hearts. And I am You could say I'm rational when And I am You could say I'm rational when And I am You could say I'm rational when it comes to what Jesus said, and kind of it comes to what Jesus said, and kind of it comes to what Jesus said, and kind of more the apologetic side of things, but more the apologetic side of things, but more the apologetic side of things, but I am kind of irrational when it comes to I am kind of irrational when it comes to I am kind of irrational when it comes to human emotion. I think that there are human emotion. I think that there are human emotion. I think that there are some emotions that just are true, you some emotions that just are true, you some emotions that just are true, you know, love, kindness, these things that know, love, kindness, these things that know, love, kindness, these things that just just just break open the heart. They they move break open the heart. They they move break open the heart. They they move something that I cannot explain, and I'm something that I cannot explain, and I'm something that I cannot explain, and I'm I I'm I'm getting into writing more to I I'm I'm getting into writing more to I I'm I'm getting into writing more to try and explain this stuff, but there try and explain this stuff, but there try and explain this stuff, but there are things that move the heart so much, are things that move the heart so much, are things that move the heart so much, to the point where to the point where to the point where if anything is true on the in the world, if anything is true on the in the world, if anything is true on the in the world, it is that emotion you're feeling right it is that emotion you're feeling right it is that emotion you're feeling right there. If there is anything that screams there. If there is anything that screams there. If there is anything that screams reality, it is that emotion. And that's reality, it is that emotion. And that's reality, it is that emotion. And that's that's what all I've got to say. So, I that's what all I've got to say. So, I that's what all I've got to say. So, I hope you did enjoy this video. It's kind hope you did enjoy this video. It's kind hope you did enjoy this video. It's kind of me just ranting, um but yeah, I hope of me just ranting, um but yeah, I hope of me just ranting, um but yeah, I hope you did enjoy it, because I just feel you did enjoy it, because I just feel you did enjoy it, because I just feel it's something to hold on to. It is it's something to hold on to. It is it's something to hold on to. It is bonkers to be a Christian. It is bonkers bonkers to be a Christian. It is bonkers bonkers to be a Christian. It is bonkers to believe that God came down in the

to believe that God came down in the to believe that God came down in the flesh. I really, really do believe it, flesh. I really, really do believe it, flesh. I really, really do believe it, and thank you for being here and and thank you for being here and and thank you for being here and listening to this. But yeah, I love you listening to this. But yeah, I love you listening to this. But yeah, I love you all, and I'll see you on the next one all, and I'll see you on the next one all, and I'll see you on the next one very soon. You probably enjoy these two very soon. You probably enjoy these two very soon. You probably enjoy these two videos here. But yeah, peace.