Miraculous CONVERSION to Christianity: Will Leave You SPEECHLESS

And I saw him one night reading the And I saw him one night reading the Bible and I thought, "Okay, this will be Bible and I thought, "Okay, this will be Bible and I thought, "Okay, this will be fun. Let's take down another Christian." fun. Let's take down another Christian." fun. Let's take down another Christian." And so I look at my friend, his name was And so I look at my friend, his name was And so I look at my friend, his name was David. I said, "David, do you realize David. I said, "David, do you realize David. I said, "David, do you realize that book you're reading is not that book you're reading is not that book you're reading is not trustworthy? It's been corrupted over trustworthy? It's been corrupted over trustworthy? It's been corrupted over time." And he's reading his Bible. And time." And he's reading his Bible. And time." And he's reading his Bible. And he closes it and he says, "Go on." And I he closes it and he says, "Go on." And I he closes it and he says, "Go on." And I said, "David, Jesus spoke Aramaic, did said, "David, Jesus spoke Aramaic, did said, "David, Jesus spoke Aramaic, did he not?" And then the earliest church he not?" And then the earliest church he not?" And then the earliest church was in Palestine. It was in Jerusalem. was in Palestine. It was in Jerusalem. was in Palestine. It was in Jerusalem. It was it was in Israel. So they must It was it was in Israel. So they must It was it was in Israel. So they must have spoken Hebrew. But by the time the have spoken Hebrew. But by the time the have spoken Hebrew. But by the time the New Testament's written, it's written in New Testament's written, it's written in New Testament's written, it's written in Greek. So you have a translation of a Greek. So you have a translation of a Greek. So you have a translation of a translation of Jesus words before it's translation of Jesus words before it's translation of Jesus words before it's ever written down. And then the New ever written down. And then the New ever written down. And then the New Testament that lasted the longest period Testament that lasted the longest period Testament that lasted the longest period of time in the church was not actually of time in the church was not actually of time in the church was not actually in Greek. It was in Latin. So you have in Greek. It was in Latin. So you have in Greek. It was in Latin. So you have another translation. Then it's in Latin another translation. Then it's in Latin another translation. Then it's in Latin for a thousand years before it comes for a thousand years before it comes for a thousand years before it comes into German. And from German it goes into German. And from German it goes into German. And from German it goes into English. And that's where we get into English. And that's where we get into English. And that's where we get the KJV. It's a translation of a the KJV. It's a translation of a the KJV. It's a translation of a translation of a translation of a translation of a translation of a translation of a translation of a translation of a translation. Which is translation of a translation. Which is translation of a translation. Which is why you have the KJV, the NIV, the ESV, why you have the KJV, the NIV, the ESV, why you have the KJV, the NIV, the ESV, the NASV, the who knows what V. You got the NASV, the who knows what V. You got the NASV, the who knows what V. You got so many versions of the Bible. How can I so many versions of the Bible. How can I so many versions of the Bible. How can I know which one is actually the word of know which one is actually the word of know which one is actually the word of God? Now, that had worked on many God? Now, that had worked on many God? Now, that had worked on many Christians. And I was ready for him to Christians. And I was ready for him to Christians. And I was ready for him to crumple under the weight of my crumple under the weight of my crumple under the weight of my argumentation.

argumentation. argumentation. But David looked at me and he said, But David looked at me and he said, But David looked at me and he said, "Nabil, let me ask you a question. Just "Nabil, let me ask you a question. Just "Nabil, let me ask you a question. Just a few minutes ago, I heard you speaking a few minutes ago, I heard you speaking a few minutes ago, I heard you speaking to your mom on the phone. Was that in to your mom on the phone. Was that in to your mom on the phone. Was that in English?" I said, "No." And he said, English?" I said, "No." And he said, English?" I said, "No." And he said, 'But when you told me what she said, you 'But when you told me what she said, you 'But when you told me what she said, you told me in English. Was that a corrupted told me in English. Was that a corrupted told me in English. Was that a corrupted translation? No. He said, 'Nibil, when translation? No. He said, 'Nibil, when translation? No. He said, 'Nibil, when you are multilingual, you can take a you are multilingual, you can take a you are multilingual, you can take a message that's given in one language and message that's given in one language and message that's given in one language and accurately translate that message into accurately translate that message into accurately translate that message into another language, and you've preserved another language, and you've preserved another language, and you've preserved the message. And that's exactly what the the message. And that's exactly what the the message. And that's exactly what the disciples did. They're able to listen to disciples did. They're able to listen to disciples did. They're able to listen to Jesus, whatever language Jesus spoke, Jesus, whatever language Jesus spoke, Jesus, whatever language Jesus spoke, and write it in Greek. And of that Greek and write it in Greek. And of that Greek and write it in Greek. And of that Greek New Testament manuscript, we have in our New Testament manuscript, we have in our New Testament manuscript, we have in our possession over 6,000 copies today. And possession over 6,000 copies today. And possession over 6,000 copies today. And he said to be if we didn't have any one he said to be if we didn't have any one he said to be if we didn't have any one of those copies, we have in our of those copies, we have in our of those copies, we have in our possession over 10,000 Latin, Coptic, possession over 10,000 Latin, Coptic, possession over 10,000 Latin, Coptic, and Syriak translations of the early and Syriak translations of the early and Syriak translations of the early Greek New Testament manuscripts. And he Greek New Testament manuscripts. And he Greek New Testament manuscripts. And he said, 'If we didn't have any of those said, 'If we didn't have any of those said, 'If we didn't have any of those translations, we have over 30,000 translations, we have over 30,000 translations, we have over 30,000 quotations of the New Testament from the quotations of the New Testament from the quotations of the New Testament from the early church fathers with which we can early church fathers with which we can early church fathers with which we can reconstruct virtually the entire New reconstruct virtually the entire New reconstruct virtually the entire New Testament many times over again. Nibil, Testament many times over again. Nibil, Testament many times over again. Nibil, we know with certainty the message of we know with certainty the message of we know with certainty the message of the original New Testament. You're the original New Testament. You're the original New Testament. You're making this up.

making this up. making this up. I said, I've talked to dozens of I said, I've talked to dozens of I said, I've talked to dozens of Christians. No one had told me this Christians. No one had told me this Christians. No one had told me this before. He said, you think I'm making before. He said, you think I'm making before. He said, you think I'm making this up? Said, yeah, I think you're this up? Said, yeah, I think you're this up? Said, yeah, I think you're making this up. He said, well, you making this up. He said, well, you making this up. He said, well, you better bring it. I'm like, it's been better bring it. I'm like, it's been better bring it. I'm like, it's been brought. Let's go. And so from that brought. Let's go. And so from that brought. Let's go. And so from that point on, David and I start arguing point on, David and I start arguing point on, David and I start arguing about these things, but we do it in a about these things, but we do it in a about these things, but we do it in a pursuit of truth. In fact, we start pursuit of truth. In fact, we start pursuit of truth. In fact, we start arguing so much that we decide to start arguing so much that we decide to start arguing so much that we decide to start signing up for classes together so we signing up for classes together so we signing up for classes together so we can sit in the back and argue with each can sit in the back and argue with each can sit in the back and argue with each other the whole time. We go to each other the whole time. We go to each other the whole time. We go to each other's houses and study and just argue other's houses and study and just argue other's houses and study and just argue some more. And over the course of time, some more. And over the course of time, some more. And over the course of time, because we spent so much time together because we spent so much time together because we spent so much time together in pursuit of truth, we became best in pursuit of truth, we became best in pursuit of truth, we became best friends. friends. friends. >> Just like Jesus says, the truth will set >> Just like Jesus says, the truth will set >> Just like Jesus says, the truth will set you free. When you're really setting you free. When you're really setting you free. When you're really setting your heart on truth and what is true, your heart on truth and what is true, your heart on truth and what is true, you are both equal because nobody owns you are both equal because nobody owns you are both equal because nobody owns the truth. The truth is a separate the truth. The truth is a separate the truth. The truth is a separate entity as the famous exarchchbishop of entity as the famous exarchchbishop of entity as the famous exarchchbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams so eloquently Canterbury Rowan Williams so eloquently Canterbury Rowan Williams so eloquently has put before. And it took a long time. has put before. And it took a long time. has put before. And it took a long time. This wasn't an overnight event. But This wasn't an overnight event. But This wasn't an overnight event. But after about a year, I came to the after about a year, I came to the after about a year, I came to the conclusion, all right, the New Testament conclusion, all right, the New Testament conclusion, all right, the New Testament manuscripts are reliable. I didn't manuscripts are reliable. I didn't manuscripts are reliable. I didn't believe in the gospel or anything like believe in the gospel or anything like believe in the gospel or anything like that. It was just the New Testament that. It was just the New Testament that. It was just the New Testament manuscripts. It took me a year, but I manuscripts. It took me a year, but I manuscripts. It took me a year, but I realized the way that the New Testament realized the way that the New Testament realized the way that the New Testament manuscripts proliferated, the way they manuscripts proliferated, the way they manuscripts proliferated, the way they were written down and sent throughout were written down and sent throughout were written down and sent throughout the early church. There was no one who's the early church. There was no one who's the early church. There was no one who's able to control these manuscripts and able to control these manuscripts and able to control these manuscripts and edit them in such a way that a change edit them in such a way that a change edit them in such a way that a change would not be detected. Simply no way to would not be detected. Simply no way to would not be detected. Simply no way to do that. So after about a year, I came do that. So after about a year, I came do that. So after about a year, I came to the conclusion that there is no way to the conclusion that there is no way to the conclusion that there is no way for the New Testament to have been for the New Testament to have been for the New Testament to have been uniformly and undetectably altered. Not uniformly and undetectably altered. Not uniformly and undetectably altered. Not possible. And so I went back to David

possible. And so I went back to David possible. And so I went back to David and I said, "All right, David. I see and I said, "All right, David. I see and I said, "All right, David. I see that the New Testament is reliable, but that the New Testament is reliable, but that the New Testament is reliable, but I don't see Jesus claiming to be God I don't see Jesus claiming to be God I don't see Jesus claiming to be God anywhere in the New Testament. Now, keep anywhere in the New Testament. Now, keep anywhere in the New Testament. Now, keep in mind, this is the biggest sticking in mind, this is the biggest sticking in mind, this is the biggest sticking point for Muslims because like I said point for Muslims because like I said point for Muslims because like I said earlier, Muslims believe that Jesus is earlier, Muslims believe that Jesus is earlier, Muslims believe that Jesus is the Messiah. Muslims believe that Jesus the Messiah. Muslims believe that Jesus the Messiah. Muslims believe that Jesus was the most miraculous man who ever was the most miraculous man who ever was the most miraculous man who ever lived. Some Muslims believe he's the lived. Some Muslims believe he's the lived. Some Muslims believe he's the only sinless prophet, truly sinless only sinless prophet, truly sinless only sinless prophet, truly sinless prophet who ever walked this earth. prophet who ever walked this earth. prophet who ever walked this earth. But the moment you say Jesus is God in a But the moment you say Jesus is God in a But the moment you say Jesus is God in a Muslim's eyes, you are committing the Muslim's eyes, you are committing the Muslim's eyes, you are committing the worst blasphemy you could ever possibly worst blasphemy you could ever possibly worst blasphemy you could ever possibly commit. The Quran says very clearly commit. The Quran says very clearly commit. The Quran says very clearly chapter 4 verse 171 as well as chapter chapter 4 verse 171 as well as chapter chapter 4 verse 171 as well as chapter 572 that if you believe Jesus is God, 572 that if you believe Jesus is God, 572 that if you believe Jesus is God, you will go to hell. you will go to hell. you will go to hell. There's no arguing with that in the There's no arguing with that in the There's no arguing with that in the Muslim worldview. Chapter 5 verse 116 Muslim worldview. Chapter 5 verse 116 Muslim worldview. Chapter 5 verse 116 shows Jesus having a conversation with shows Jesus having a conversation with shows Jesus having a conversation with Allah. And Allah asked Jesus, "Did you Allah. And Allah asked Jesus, "Did you Allah. And Allah asked Jesus, "Did you ever tell people to worship you?" and he ever tell people to worship you?" and he ever tell people to worship you?" and he said, "By no means do I have the right said, "By no means do I have the right said, "By no means do I have the right to tell them to do something like that." to tell them to do something like that." to tell them to do something like that." And so the idea that Jesus is God is And so the idea that Jesus is God is And so the idea that Jesus is God is blasphemy in Islam and they're trying to blasphemy in Islam and they're trying to blasphemy in Islam and they're trying to defend God when they say there's no way defend God when they say there's no way defend God when they say there's no way Jesus is God. So the question for me now Jesus is God. So the question for me now Jesus is God. So the question for me now that I came to the point of realization that I came to the point of realization that I came to the point of realization that the New Testament was reliable. I that the New Testament was reliable. I that the New Testament was reliable. I said, "Okay, fine. But Jesus never said, "Okay, fine. But Jesus never said, "Okay, fine. But Jesus never claims to be God in that." And now I claims to be God in that." And now I claims to be God in that." And now I began to study with a little bit more began to study with a little bit more began to study with a little bit more depth. I began to try to look at things.

depth. I began to try to look at things. depth. I began to try to look at things. My friend David first handed me the My friend David first handed me the My friend David first handed me the Gospel of John. He said, "Here, read Gospel of John. He said, "Here, read Gospel of John. He said, "Here, read this." And as I read the Gospel of John, this." And as I read the Gospel of John, this." And as I read the Gospel of John, John 1:1 says that Jesus is God. Don't John 1:1 says that Jesus is God. Don't John 1:1 says that Jesus is God. Don't have to go too far. In the beginning was have to go too far. In the beginning was have to go too far. In the beginning was the word. The word was with God, and the the word. The word was with God, and the the word. The word was with God, and the word was God. Well, what is the word? word was God. Well, what is the word? word was God. Well, what is the word? You go down to verse 14. The word became You go down to verse 14. The word became You go down to verse 14. The word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory. I'm looking at these sets of his glory. I'm looking at these sets of his glory. I'm looking at these sets of verses, and I'm trying to find a way verses, and I'm trying to find a way verses, and I'm trying to find a way around this because again, from around this because again, from around this because again, from childhood, I've been told Jesus couldn't childhood, I've been told Jesus couldn't childhood, I've been told Jesus couldn't be God. And now that I believe the New be God. And now that I believe the New be God. And now that I believe the New Testament is reliable, how could it Testament is reliable, how could it Testament is reliable, how could it possibly say this? So, the way I possibly say this? So, the way I possibly say this? So, the way I defended that was by saying, "Well, defended that was by saying, "Well, defended that was by saying, "Well, Jesus isn't saying he's God here. This Jesus isn't saying he's God here. This Jesus isn't saying he's God here. This is John, the author. I want to see Jesus is John, the author. I want to see Jesus is John, the author. I want to see Jesus say he's God." Then, as you go through say he's God." Then, as you go through say he's God." Then, as you go through the Gospel of John, you see things that the Gospel of John, you see things that the Gospel of John, you see things that Jesus says, like in John 8:58, some Jews Jesus says, like in John 8:58, some Jews Jesus says, like in John 8:58, some Jews ask him, they say, "You're not even 50 ask him, they say, "You're not even 50 ask him, they say, "You're not even 50 years old, yet you claim to have seen years old, yet you claim to have seen years old, yet you claim to have seen Abraham." And Jesus response is, "Amen. Abraham." And Jesus response is, "Amen. Abraham." And Jesus response is, "Amen. Amen." Before Abraham was born, I am. Amen." Before Abraham was born, I am. Amen." Before Abraham was born, I am. Now, you know, when you're Muslim, you Now, you know, when you're Muslim, you Now, you know, when you're Muslim, you haven't heard the term I am before. You haven't heard the term I am before. You haven't heard the term I am before. You don't know what that means. But when don't know what that means. But when don't know what that means. But when someone points you to Exodus 3:14, someone points you to Exodus 3:14, someone points you to Exodus 3:14, where God tells Moses that his name is where God tells Moses that his name is where God tells Moses that his name is Anohoo, I am. That now it begins to make Anohoo, I am. That now it begins to make Anohoo, I am. That now it begins to make sense what Jesus is saying. Someone asks sense what Jesus is saying. Someone asks sense what Jesus is saying. Someone asks him, "You're not even 50 years old."

him, "You're not even 50 years old." him, "You're not even 50 years old." Jesus response is, "I am. I eternally Jesus response is, "I am. I eternally Jesus response is, "I am. I eternally exist." Even before Abraham was born, exist." Even before Abraham was born, exist." Even before Abraham was born, yes, because he's taking the name of the yes, because he's taking the name of the yes, because he's taking the name of the God of Moses. It's pretty clear. And by God of Moses. It's pretty clear. And by God of Moses. It's pretty clear. And by the way, if there are any Muslims the way, if there are any Muslims the way, if there are any Muslims listening and thinking that's not listening and thinking that's not listening and thinking that's not convincing enough, go to John 20:28 convincing enough, go to John 20:28 convincing enough, go to John 20:28 where someone calls Jesus God. And Jesus where someone calls Jesus God. And Jesus where someone calls Jesus God. And Jesus response is basically finally took you response is basically finally took you response is basically finally took you long enough. So then my response to that long enough. So then my response to that long enough. So then my response to that was, well, forget the Gospel of John. It was, well, forget the Gospel of John. It was, well, forget the Gospel of John. It was written too late. That's not was written too late. That's not was written too late. That's not reliable. I want to go to the first reliable. I want to go to the first reliable. I want to go to the first gospel. I want to see where it was gospel. I want to see where it was gospel. I want to see where it was written early on. Did Jesus claim to be written early on. Did Jesus claim to be written early on. Did Jesus claim to be God? Fortunately, I don't have all the God? Fortunately, I don't have all the God? Fortunately, I don't have all the time to go into the details here, but I time to go into the details here, but I time to go into the details here, but I will tell you this. The culmination of will tell you this. The culmination of will tell you this. The culmination of Mark's gospel, the very first gospel Mark's gospel, the very first gospel Mark's gospel, the very first gospel ever written is Mark 14:62. ever written is Mark 14:62. ever written is Mark 14:62. And in this one verse, Jesus makes two, And in this one verse, Jesus makes two, And in this one verse, Jesus makes two, if not three references to the Old if not three references to the Old if not three references to the Old Testament, saying, "I am the God of Testament, saying, "I am the God of Testament, saying, "I am the God of Moses. I am the God of Daniel. I am the Moses. I am the God of Daniel. I am the Moses. I am the God of Daniel. I am the God of David." And he does it so clearly God of David." And he does it so clearly God of David." And he does it so clearly that the high priests immediately tear that the high priests immediately tear that the high priests immediately tear their robes and say, "You have heard the their robes and say, "You have heard the their robes and say, "You have heard the blasphemy. What shall we do?" And that's blasphemy. What shall we do?" And that's blasphemy. What shall we do?" And that's the reason why they decided to crucify the reason why they decided to crucify the reason why they decided to crucify him. And they would have been right to him. And they would have been right to him. And they would have been right to crucify him if he were God. So Jesus crucify him if he were God. So Jesus crucify him if he were God. So Jesus claims to be God. Now imagine what this claims to be God. Now imagine what this claims to be God. Now imagine what this is doing to my mind because I as a is doing to my mind because I as a is doing to my mind because I as a Muslim have now come to the conclusion Muslim have now come to the conclusion Muslim have now come to the conclusion that the New Testament is reliable. And that the New Testament is reliable. And that the New Testament is reliable. And in that New Testament, I'm seeing Jesus in that New Testament, I'm seeing Jesus in that New Testament, I'm seeing Jesus claim to be God. This makes everything claim to be God. This makes everything claim to be God. This makes everything I've ever been taught about Islam false I've ever been taught about Islam false I've ever been taught about Islam false because we're supposed to rever Jesus, because we're supposed to rever Jesus, because we're supposed to rever Jesus, but here's evidence he claimed to be but here's evidence he claimed to be but here's evidence he claimed to be God. How can I do that? And this

God. How can I do that? And this God. How can I do that? And this cognitive dissonance began to drive me cognitive dissonance began to drive me cognitive dissonance began to drive me nuts. Up until this point, I was just nuts. Up until this point, I was just nuts. Up until this point, I was just arguing with my friend David. But now I arguing with my friend David. But now I arguing with my friend David. But now I come to the realization that this come to the realization that this come to the realization that this investigation may very well determine investigation may very well determine investigation may very well determine the course of my life. And so I start the course of my life. And so I start the course of my life. And so I start praying fervently. And in the middle of praying fervently. And in the middle of praying fervently. And in the middle of these prayers, I go back to my friend these prayers, I go back to my friend these prayers, I go back to my friend David and I say, "Well, I need to have a David and I say, "Well, I need to have a David and I say, "Well, I need to have a case. I need to have good solid case. I need to have good solid case. I need to have good solid reasoning for what would make reasoning for what would make reasoning for what would make Christianity true because Christians Christianity true because Christians Christianity true because Christians believe all kinds of things. There's believe all kinds of things. There's believe all kinds of things. There's different denominations. Some Christians different denominations. Some Christians different denominations. Some Christians believe this, some Christians believe believe this, some Christians believe believe this, some Christians believe that. What is the thing that would make that. What is the thing that would make that. What is the thing that would make the core of Christianity true? And I the core of Christianity true? And I the core of Christianity true? And I found it in Romans 10:9. found it in Romans 10:9. found it in Romans 10:9. Paul says, "If you confess with your Paul says, "If you confess with your Paul says, "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is mouth that Jesus is mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God Lord and believe in your heart that God Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be raised him from the dead, you will be raised him from the dead, you will be saved." You didn't know there was going saved." You didn't know there was going saved." You didn't know there was going to be a pop quiz involved. Confess with to be a pop quiz involved. Confess with to be a pop quiz involved. Confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and your mouth that Jesus is Lord and your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised believe in your heart that God raised believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. him from the dead, you will be saved. him from the dead, you will be saved. Jesus has to be God. He has to die on Jesus has to be God. He has to die on Jesus has to be God. He has to die on the cross and then rise from the dead the cross and then rise from the dead the cross and then rise from the dead for Christianity to be true.

for Christianity to be true. for Christianity to be true. >> I think this is such a thing to hold on >> I think this is such a thing to hold on >> I think this is such a thing to hold on to. And as Christians, we often overlook to. And as Christians, we often overlook to. And as Christians, we often overlook it ironically, but the way we view it ironically, but the way we view it ironically, but the way we view scripture, the way we look at everything scripture, the way we look at everything scripture, the way we look at everything in the Bible, it goes to that one day in the Bible, it goes to that one day in the Bible, it goes to that one day when Jesus was on the cross and was when Jesus was on the cross and was when Jesus was on the cross and was crucified and then rose again and spoke crucified and then rose again and spoke crucified and then rose again and spoke to his disciples. And we can cherrypick, to his disciples. And we can cherrypick, to his disciples. And we can cherrypick, we can look at verses, and this is what we can look at verses, and this is what we can look at verses, and this is what I do badly. But if that is true, then I do badly. But if that is true, then I do badly. But if that is true, then anything is possible. If that moment anything is possible. If that moment anything is possible. If that moment where the world changed forever, then where the world changed forever, then where the world changed forever, then anything is possible. May that be Jesus anything is possible. May that be Jesus anything is possible. May that be Jesus predicting the temple destruction. predicting the temple destruction. predicting the temple destruction. People look at that and go, "Oh, it must People look at that and go, "Oh, it must People look at that and go, "Oh, it must have been written after because he have been written after because he have been written after because he predicted it." But if the crucifixion predicted it." But if the crucifixion predicted it." But if the crucifixion really happened and Jesus of Nazareth really happened and Jesus of Nazareth really happened and Jesus of Nazareth was put on a cross, died, was put in a was put on a cross, died, was put in a was put on a cross, died, was put in a tomb by Joseph, Joseph of Arythea, and tomb by Joseph, Joseph of Arythea, and tomb by Joseph, Joseph of Arythea, and rose again, then everything we look in rose again, then everything we look in rose again, then everything we look in the Bible could be true. Some parts the Bible could be true. Some parts the Bible could be true. Some parts could be poetry, some parts could be could be poetry, some parts could be could be poetry, some parts could be more theological purposes, but it is more theological purposes, but it is more theological purposes, but it is possible. And I often run away from this possible. And I often run away from this possible. And I often run away from this fact because I do truly believe with all fact because I do truly believe with all fact because I do truly believe with all my heart that Jesus of Nazareth rose my heart that Jesus of Nazareth rose my heart that Jesus of Nazareth rose from the dead and was Lord and is God from the dead and was Lord and is God from the dead and was Lord and is God and did claim to be God. But I often do and did claim to be God. But I often do and did claim to be God. But I often do cherrypick verses and I think, oh, you cherrypick verses and I think, oh, you cherrypick verses and I think, oh, you know, did that happen? What about this?

know, did that happen? What about this? know, did that happen? What about this? What about that? But but if but if we What about that? But but if but if we What about that? But but if but if we actually look at the lens that that actually look at the lens that that actually look at the lens that that really happened, it changes everything really happened, it changes everything really happened, it changes everything in history that a man was put in a tomb, in history that a man was put in a tomb, in history that a man was put in a tomb, went through one of the most brutal went through one of the most brutal went through one of the most brutal deaths humanly possible and came out and deaths humanly possible and came out and deaths humanly possible and came out and won. defeated death and is alive today won. defeated death and is alive today won. defeated death and is alive today and is coming to people in visions, in and is coming to people in visions, in and is coming to people in visions, in miracles, in you name it. And it's miracles, in you name it. And it's miracles, in you name it. And it's something to hold on to as Christians. something to hold on to as Christians. something to hold on to as Christians. No matter where we go with information, No matter where we go with information, No matter where we go with information, with manuscripts, translations, with manuscripts, translations, with manuscripts, translations, nosticism, whatever it is, just hold on nosticism, whatever it is, just hold on nosticism, whatever it is, just hold on to the fact that if this happened, it to the fact that if this happened, it to the fact that if this happened, it changes everything. That is what we must changes everything. That is what we must changes everything. That is what we must hold on to. And if we agree on that, hold on to. And if we agree on that, hold on to. And if we agree on that, ladies and gentlemen, we are Christians. ladies and gentlemen, we are Christians. ladies and gentlemen, we are Christians. >> Now, this is actually a very interesting >> Now, this is actually a very interesting >> Now, this is actually a very interesting case. By the time I was uh wrestling case. By the time I was uh wrestling case. By the time I was uh wrestling with some of these things, I was in with some of these things, I was in with some of these things, I was in medical school. As a fourth year medical medical school. As a fourth year medical medical school. As a fourth year medical student, I spent a lot of time in the student, I spent a lot of time in the student, I spent a lot of time in the psychiatry ward working in the psychiatry ward working in the psychiatry ward working in the psychiatry ward. And while I was there, psychiatry ward. And while I was there, psychiatry ward. And while I was there, I used to see people come up and say to I used to see people come up and say to I used to see people come up and say to me in delusions of grandeur, "Nabil, I me in delusions of grandeur, "Nabil, I me in delusions of grandeur, "Nabil, I am God." That to claim to be God is am God." That to claim to be God is am God." That to claim to be God is pathological. And in the first century, pathological. And in the first century, pathological. And in the first century, if someone claims to be God, it's the if someone claims to be God, it's the if someone claims to be God, it's the same response. You are crazy. But if same response. You are crazy. But if same response. You are crazy. But if that man then says, "No, wait. Watch. I that man then says, "No, wait. Watch. I that man then says, "No, wait. Watch. I will be killed. and on the third day I will be killed. and on the third day I will be killed. and on the third day I will rise from the dead. And that's my will rise from the dead. And that's my will rise from the dead. And that's my proof for you that I am God.

proof for you that I am God. proof for you that I am God. Now we have something to watch. Now we Now we have something to watch. Now we Now we have something to watch. Now we have something to see. The resurrection have something to see. The resurrection have something to see. The resurrection is the vindication of Jesus claim to be is the vindication of Jesus claim to be is the vindication of Jesus claim to be God. Anybody can claim to be God, but if God. Anybody can claim to be God, but if God. Anybody can claim to be God, but if someone claims to be God and then proves someone claims to be God and then proves someone claims to be God and then proves it by rising from the dead, then there's it by rising from the dead, then there's it by rising from the dead, then there's someone to believe. So the question is, someone to believe. So the question is, someone to believe. So the question is, is there evidence that Jesus rose from is there evidence that Jesus rose from is there evidence that Jesus rose from the dead? But as I investigated the the dead? But as I investigated the the dead? But as I investigated the evidence surrounding Jesus' death, I evidence surrounding Jesus' death, I evidence surrounding Jesus' death, I came to the conclusion that the evidence came to the conclusion that the evidence came to the conclusion that the evidence pointed uniformly to the fact that Jesus pointed uniformly to the fact that Jesus pointed uniformly to the fact that Jesus rose from the dead. Now there's rose from the dead. Now there's rose from the dead. Now there's something very profound in that because something very profound in that because something very profound in that because as a Muslim, the Quran doesn't even let as a Muslim, the Quran doesn't even let as a Muslim, the Quran doesn't even let you believe that Jesus died on the you believe that Jesus died on the you believe that Jesus died on the cross. The Quran says in which is cross. The Quran says in which is cross. The Quran says in which is chapter 4 verse 157, he was not killed nor was he crucified. he was not killed nor was he crucified. But so it appeared to them. So the Quran But so it appeared to them. So the Quran But so it appeared to them. So the Quran denies that Jesus was killed by denies that Jesus was killed by denies that Jesus was killed by crucifixion. But if you study the crucifixion. But if you study the crucifixion. But if you study the history of Jesus life, I'm not talking history of Jesus life, I'm not talking history of Jesus life, I'm not talking about Christians studying the history of about Christians studying the history of about Christians studying the history of Jesus life. I'm talking about atheist, Jesus life. I'm talking about atheist, Jesus life. I'm talking about atheist, skeptical, agnostic scholars like Paula skeptical, agnostic scholars like Paula skeptical, agnostic scholars like Paula Frederickson, like Marcusborg, like Frederickson, like Marcusborg, like Frederickson, like Marcusborg, like Bartman, none of whom are Christians.

Bartman, none of whom are Christians. Bartman, none of whom are Christians. All of them say if we can know anything All of them say if we can know anything All of them say if we can know anything about Jesus life, it's that he died by about Jesus life, it's that he died by about Jesus life, it's that he died by crucifixion under Pontius Pilate. The crucifixion under Pontius Pilate. The crucifixion under Pontius Pilate. The death of Jesus is the most solid fact death of Jesus is the most solid fact death of Jesus is the most solid fact regarding his life historically regarding his life historically regarding his life historically speaking. And that alone challenges the speaking. And that alone challenges the speaking. And that alone challenges the truth of the Quran. truth of the Quran. truth of the Quran. >> Isn't that amazing? Anything that could >> Isn't that amazing? Anything that could >> Isn't that amazing? Anything that could be historically proven about Jesus, may be historically proven about Jesus, may be historically proven about Jesus, may that be his miracles, what he said, what that be his miracles, what he said, what that be his miracles, what he said, what he did, and the fact that the central he did, and the fact that the central he did, and the fact that the central claim and the most incredible day in claim and the most incredible day in claim and the most incredible day in human history, that was the most proved human history, that was the most proved human history, that was the most proved historical fact about him. It could have historical fact about him. It could have historical fact about him. It could have been anything. It could have been him been anything. It could have been him been anything. It could have been him supposedly walking on war. It could have supposedly walking on war. It could have supposedly walking on war. It could have been him supposedly raising Lazarus from been him supposedly raising Lazarus from been him supposedly raising Lazarus from the dead if you're not a Christian. But the dead if you're not a Christian. But the dead if you're not a Christian. But isn't it ironic that the thing that has isn't it ironic that the thing that has isn't it ironic that the thing that has the most weight, has the most evidence the most weight, has the most evidence the most weight, has the most evidence is the central claim of the Christian is the central claim of the Christian is the central claim of the Christian faith. Isn't that just something to faith. Isn't that just something to faith. Isn't that just something to really, really, really be proud of as a really, really, really be proud of as a really, really, really be proud of as a Christian? We have this event that even Christian? We have this event that even Christian? We have this event that even skeptics say, "Yes, this happened. Yes, skeptics say, "Yes, this happened. Yes, skeptics say, "Yes, this happened. Yes, people did for some weird reason think people did for some weird reason think people did for some weird reason think that he walked around alive." Isn't it that he walked around alive." Isn't it that he walked around alive." Isn't it crazy? anything Jesus did anything it crazy? anything Jesus did anything it crazy? anything Jesus did anything it was that the greatest moment in human was that the greatest moment in human was that the greatest moment in human history is the thing that is most known history is the thing that is most known history is the thing that is most known about isn't that just even Arkham's about isn't that just even Arkham's about isn't that just even Arkham's razor you know the most probable cause razor you know the most probable cause razor you know the most probable cause there I mean it I find that I just find there I mean it I find that I just find there I mean it I find that I just find that so miraculous as a Christian and it that so miraculous as a Christian and it that so miraculous as a Christian and it rings true you can really really see it rings true you can really really see it rings true you can really really see it just in the limelight that is true you

just in the limelight that is true you just in the limelight that is true you know how many more things have to line know how many more things have to line know how many more things have to line up. How many more prophecies have to be up. How many more prophecies have to be up. How many more prophecies have to be true? How many more archae true? How many more archae true? How many more archae archaeological digs need to be proved? archaeological digs need to be proved? archaeological digs need to be proved? At a certain point, ladies and At a certain point, ladies and At a certain point, ladies and gentlemen, I think the evidence is gentlemen, I think the evidence is gentlemen, I think the evidence is clear. The man who walked around Jesus clear. The man who walked around Jesus clear. The man who walked around Jesus of Nazareth was Lord. And even just on a of Nazareth was Lord. And even just on a of Nazareth was Lord. And even just on a practical level, when you think about practical level, when you think about practical level, when you think about his divinity, him, you know, forgiven his divinity, him, you know, forgiven his divinity, him, you know, forgiven sins, etc., you could say, well, a lot sins, etc., you could say, well, a lot sins, etc., you could say, well, a lot of this is made up for all tradition, of this is made up for all tradition, of this is made up for all tradition, blah, blah, blah. But isn't it blah, blah, blah. But isn't it blah, blah, blah. But isn't it incredible that a man who, let's say you incredible that a man who, let's say you incredible that a man who, let's say you don't believe, claimed to be God, but don't believe, claimed to be God, but don't believe, claimed to be God, but was an incredible man, managed to pull was an incredible man, managed to pull was an incredible man, managed to pull this all off and also wasn't like this all off and also wasn't like this all off and also wasn't like pathological, wasn't egotistical. He had pathological, wasn't egotistical. He had pathological, wasn't egotistical. He had this radical view of helping anybody, this radical view of helping anybody, this radical view of helping anybody, your neighbor. And isn't that just an your neighbor. And isn't that just an your neighbor. And isn't that just an incredible thing? Because you you don't incredible thing? Because you you don't incredible thing? Because you you don't see people with incredibly high egos at see people with incredibly high egos at see people with incredibly high egos at the same time have some sort of radical the same time have some sort of radical the same time have some sort of radical kindness for the least, for the kindness for the least, for the kindness for the least, for the begotten, for the hurting, for the begotten, for the hurting, for the begotten, for the hurting, for the downtrodden, for outcast. You don't see downtrodden, for outcast. You don't see downtrodden, for outcast. You don't see those two things go together. You You do those two things go together. You You do those two things go together. You You do not see that when you think about people not see that when you think about people not see that when you think about people in our society today, people with big in our society today, people with big in our society today, people with big egos or power. You may that be Jeff egos or power. You may that be Jeff egos or power. You may that be Jeff Bezos or, you know, I don't know, just Bezos or, you know, I don't know, just Bezos or, you know, I don't know, just just political leaders, right? You don't just political leaders, right? You don't just political leaders, right? You don't see these two things collide together.

see these two things collide together. see these two things collide together. If you think of someone who commands If you think of someone who commands If you think of someone who commands such incredible authority, of a massive such incredible authority, of a massive such incredible authority, of a massive ego, of saying things that are so ego, of saying things that are so ego, of saying things that are so outlandish, who who says things that are outlandish, who who says things that are outlandish, who who says things that are so grandeur, you do not bring kindness, so grandeur, you do not bring kindness, so grandeur, you do not bring kindness, empathy, and focusing on the most empathy, and focusing on the most empathy, and focusing on the most vulnerable with that. It doesn't go vulnerable with that. It doesn't go vulnerable with that. It doesn't go together. you. I cannot think of a together. you. I cannot think of a together. you. I cannot think of a single person where that goes together. single person where that goes together. single person where that goes together. Where the most radical powerful Where the most radical powerful Where the most radical powerful egotistical way of viewing things and egotistical way of viewing things and egotistical way of viewing things and speaking is combined with the most speaking is combined with the most speaking is combined with the most radical empathy. It doesn't go together. radical empathy. It doesn't go together. radical empathy. It doesn't go together. Now, I'm saying egotistical in all this, Now, I'm saying egotistical in all this, Now, I'm saying egotistical in all this, but I don't believe he was egotistical. but I don't believe he was egotistical. but I don't believe he was egotistical. I don't believe he was any of that. I I don't believe he was any of that. I I don't believe he was any of that. I believe he was Lord. I believe he was believe he was Lord. I believe he was believe he was Lord. I believe he was divine. I believe he was God incarnate, divine. I believe he was God incarnate, divine. I believe he was God incarnate, fully man, fully God. This is the fully man, fully God. This is the fully man, fully God. This is the incredible thing I think is so incredible thing I think is so incredible thing I think is so miraculous about Jesus. Now, you could miraculous about Jesus. Now, you could miraculous about Jesus. Now, you could say, "Well, it's all contextual because say, "Well, it's all contextual because say, "Well, it's all contextual because back then, what it meant to be back then, what it meant to be back then, what it meant to be egotistical, what it meant to be kind of egotistical, what it meant to be kind of egotistical, what it meant to be kind of a radical person was completely a radical person was completely a radical person was completely different." But I think you're strawman. different." But I think you're strawman. different." But I think you're strawman. You're not being honest in the way You're not being honest in the way You're not being honest in the way you're saying that because I do truly you're saying that because I do truly you're saying that because I do truly believe with all my heart these things believe with all my heart these things believe with all my heart these things do not go together. Like, isn't it just do not go together. Like, isn't it just do not go together. Like, isn't it just incredible that the man Jesus of incredible that the man Jesus of incredible that the man Jesus of Nazareth who walked around, the people Nazareth who walked around, the people Nazareth who walked around, the people who were scum of the earth, the people who were scum of the earth, the people who were scum of the earth, the people who people looked at in disgust, he was who people looked at in disgust, he was who people looked at in disgust, he was the man who said, "Love that person. I'm the man who said, "Love that person. I'm the man who said, "Love that person. I'm going to hug that person. I'm going to going to hug that person. I'm going to going to hug that person. I'm going to heal that person. I'm going to stand by heal that person. I'm going to stand by heal that person. I'm going to stand by them. You must treat them the same way them. You must treat them the same way them. You must treat them the same way you treat a king." You must to make you treat a king." You must to make you treat a king." You must to make disciples of all nations. You know, the

disciples of all nations. You know, the disciples of all nations. You know, the the the thing you do to the least is the the the thing you do to the least is the the the thing you do to the least is the thing you do to me. You know, when I was thing you do to me. You know, when I was thing you do to me. You know, when I was hungry, did you feed me? When I was hungry, did you feed me? When I was hungry, did you feed me? When I was thirsty, did you give me drink? When I thirsty, did you give me drink? When I thirsty, did you give me drink? When I was in prison, did you come and visit was in prison, did you come and visit was in prison, did you come and visit me? That is just ringing true. Ladies me? That is just ringing true. Ladies me? That is just ringing true. Ladies and gentlemen, that just speaks volumes. and gentlemen, that just speaks volumes. and gentlemen, that just speaks volumes. It screams truth. It It just fills you It screams truth. It It just fills you It screams truth. It It just fills you with you feel alive. You feel like this with you feel alive. You feel like this with you feel alive. You feel like this this something is going on, ladies and this something is going on, ladies and this something is going on, ladies and gentlemen. This is not this is not gentlemen. This is not this is not gentlemen. This is not this is not false. This is true. This is the story false. This is true. This is the story false. This is true. This is the story that is true. This is the greatest story that is true. This is the greatest story that is true. This is the greatest story ever told in history. And then I have ever told in history. And then I have ever told in history. And then I have all this evidence that he actually rose all this evidence that he actually rose all this evidence that he actually rose from the dead. If you want some of that from the dead. If you want some of that from the dead. If you want some of that evidence, I would suggest you read a evidence, I would suggest you read a evidence, I would suggest you read a book called The Case for the book called The Case for the book called The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus by Gary Habermass Resurrection of Jesus by Gary Habermass Resurrection of Jesus by Gary Habermass and Mike Lacona. So I'm seeing this and Mike Lacona. So I'm seeing this and Mike Lacona. So I'm seeing this evidence and I'm seeing a case for Jesus evidence and I'm seeing a case for Jesus evidence and I'm seeing a case for Jesus deity and for Christianity being built deity and for Christianity being built deity and for Christianity being built up. So, by the way, this has taken three up. So, by the way, this has taken three up. So, by the way, this has taken three years of friendship with David to get to years of friendship with David to get to years of friendship with David to get to this point. Not an overnight quest.

this point. Not an overnight quest. this point. Not an overnight quest. So, David and I are going home from a So, David and I are going home from a So, David and I are going home from a very manly place. We were at a smoothie very manly place. We were at a smoothie very manly place. We were at a smoothie bar. David asks me, he says, "Nabil, bar. David asks me, he says, "Nabil, bar. David asks me, he says, "Nabil, we've been looking into this for quite a we've been looking into this for quite a we've been looking into this for quite a while. Where do you think the case for while. Where do you think the case for while. Where do you think the case for Christianity falls? From 0 to 100? If Christianity falls? From 0 to 100? If Christianity falls? From 0 to 100? If zero was absolutely not true and 100 was zero was absolutely not true and 100 was zero was absolutely not true and 100 was absolutely true, where do you think the absolutely true, where do you think the absolutely true, where do you think the case for Christianity stands?" I case for Christianity stands?" I case for Christianity stands?" I investig I just thought about each investig I just thought about each investig I just thought about each criterion there. Well, it's 99% sure criterion there. Well, it's 99% sure criterion there. Well, it's 99% sure Jesus died on the cross. About 90% sure Jesus died on the cross. About 90% sure Jesus died on the cross. About 90% sure he claimed to be God. 90% sure he rose he claimed to be God. 90% sure he rose he claimed to be God. 90% sure he rose from the dead. I'm putting it at 80 to from the dead. I'm putting it at 80 to from the dead. I'm putting it at 80 to 85% David. And he about spits out the 85% David. And he about spits out the 85% David. And he about spits out the smoothie, which is not cool cuz it was smoothie, which is not cool cuz it was smoothie, which is not cool cuz it was my car. And he looks at me and he says, my car. And he looks at me and he says, my car. And he looks at me and he says, "Nabil, well, why don't you accept the "Nabil, well, why don't you accept the "Nabil, well, why don't you accept the gospel then?" And I said, "David, it's gospel then?" And I said, "David, it's gospel then?" And I said, "David, it's because I'm 100% sure in Islam, even if because I'm 100% sure in Islam, even if because I'm 100% sure in Islam, even if I'm 80 to 85% believing in the case of I'm 80 to 85% believing in the case of I'm 80 to 85% believing in the case of Christianity, the case for Islam is Christianity, the case for Islam is Christianity, the case for Islam is stronger." And he looked at me and he stronger." And he looked at me and he stronger." And he looked at me and he said, "Nabil, you haven't even looked said, "Nabil, you haven't even looked said, "Nabil, you haven't even looked critically at the case for Islam." And I critically at the case for Islam." And I critically at the case for Islam." And I said, "I know, but I'm just that said, "I know, but I'm just that said, "I know, but I'm just that certain. I've heard evidences of the certain. I've heard evidences of the certain. I've heard evidences of the Quran from childhood. I've heard Quran from childhood. I've heard Quran from childhood. I've heard evidences of Muhammad from childhood. I evidences of Muhammad from childhood. I evidences of Muhammad from childhood. I am certain that Islam is true." And he am certain that Islam is true." And he am certain that Islam is true." And he says, "Well, put it to the test." And says, "Well, put it to the test." And says, "Well, put it to the test." And here's the critical thing. He says, here's the critical thing. He says, here's the critical thing. He says, "Test it to the same degree you tested "Test it to the same degree you tested "Test it to the same degree you tested Christianity. The same level of skept Christianity. The same level of skept Christianity. The same level of skept skepticism. Apply the same historical skepticism. Apply the same historical skepticism. Apply the same historical criteria and then tell me what you end criteria and then tell me what you end criteria and then tell me what you end up with." And I was very confident. And up with." And I was very confident. And up with." And I was very confident. And I said, "Sure, no problem." And so I I said, "Sure, no problem." And so I I said, "Sure, no problem." And so I applied the same level of skepticism applied the same level of skepticism applied the same level of skepticism historically speaking. I'm going to have historically speaking. I'm going to have historically speaking. I'm going to have to be brief, but here's what I found.

to be brief, but here's what I found. to be brief, but here's what I found. When it came to Jesus, I was extremely When it came to Jesus, I was extremely When it came to Jesus, I was extremely skeptical of the Gospel of John, for skeptical of the Gospel of John, for skeptical of the Gospel of John, for example, because John's Gospel, example, because John's Gospel, example, because John's Gospel, according to critical scholars. Now, not according to critical scholars. Now, not according to critical scholars. Now, not according to Christians, but according according to Christians, but according according to Christians, but according to critical scholars, John's gospel is to critical scholars, John's gospel is to critical scholars, John's gospel is written between 60 and maybe at the written between 60 and maybe at the written between 60 and maybe at the latest 70 years after Jesus death. And latest 70 years after Jesus death. And latest 70 years after Jesus death. And so, I was critical of John's gospel. The so, I was critical of John's gospel. The so, I was critical of John's gospel. The first time anyone wrote anything about first time anyone wrote anything about first time anyone wrote anything about Muhammad's life was 150 years after his Muhammad's life was 150 years after his Muhammad's life was 150 years after his death. And then the person who wrote it death. And then the person who wrote it death. And then the person who wrote it actually that book was lost. And what we actually that book was lost. And what we actually that book was lost. And what we have is somebody else who saved portions have is somebody else who saved portions have is somebody else who saved portions of that book and said I only saved a of that book and said I only saved a of that book and said I only saved a portion of this book because the rest of portion of this book because the rest of portion of this book because the rest of it I felt was just unbelievable. So the it I felt was just unbelievable. So the it I felt was just unbelievable. So the first piece of evidence we have on first piece of evidence we have on first piece of evidence we have on Muhammad's life comes much much later Muhammad's life comes much much later Muhammad's life comes much much later than the first evidence we have on Jesus than the first evidence we have on Jesus than the first evidence we have on Jesus life. and it was claimed by the person life. and it was claimed by the person life. and it was claimed by the person who saved it to have been unreliable. who saved it to have been unreliable. who saved it to have been unreliable. And I began doing the sidebyside And I began doing the sidebyside And I began doing the sidebyside comparison. Okay, what's the history of comparison. Okay, what's the history of comparison. Okay, what's the history of the Quran compared to the Bible? Okay, the Quran compared to the Bible? Okay, the Quran compared to the Bible? Okay, what's Muhammad's life look like? Now, I what's Muhammad's life look like? Now, I what's Muhammad's life look like? Now, I had been taught from childhood that had been taught from childhood that had been taught from childhood that Muhammad was the most amazing man who Muhammad was the most amazing man who Muhammad was the most amazing man who ever existed. I had been taught that ever existed. I had been taught that ever existed. I had been taught that Muhammad was a great statesman, a great Muhammad was a great statesman, a great Muhammad was a great statesman, a great diplomat, a great general, a great diplomat, a great general, a great diplomat, a great general, a great leader. I'd been taught that he was a leader. I'd been taught that he was a leader. I'd been taught that he was a great husband and a defender of women's great husband and a defender of women's great husband and a defender of women's rights and a defender of the downtrodd.

rights and a defender of the downtrodd. rights and a defender of the downtrodd. And that's how Muslims see Muhammad. And And that's how Muslims see Muhammad. And And that's how Muslims see Muhammad. And so when you see Muslims revering so when you see Muslims revering so when you see Muslims revering Muhammad, that's the man they're Muhammad, that's the man they're Muhammad, that's the man they're revering. This legendary great man. But revering. This legendary great man. But revering. This legendary great man. But when I studied the historical evidence, when I studied the historical evidence, when I studied the historical evidence, not only was it late and not really not only was it late and not really not only was it late and not really reliable, but when I actually looked at reliable, but when I actually looked at reliable, but when I actually looked at what it said, that Muhammad in the pages what it said, that Muhammad in the pages what it said, that Muhammad in the pages of history was very different from the of history was very different from the of history was very different from the Muhammad in the hearts of Muslims. Muhammad in the hearts of Muslims. Muhammad in the hearts of Muslims. And I realized I had to pick one or the And I realized I had to pick one or the And I realized I had to pick one or the other. And if I was going to be honest other. And if I was going to be honest other. And if I was going to be honest and I was going to follow David's and I was going to follow David's and I was going to follow David's challenge and apply critical historical challenge and apply critical historical challenge and apply critical historical criteria, criteria, criteria, this was the Muhammad I'd have to this was the Muhammad I'd have to this was the Muhammad I'd have to believe existed. believe existed. believe existed. And so I said, "Okay, I can't rely on And so I said, "Okay, I can't rely on And so I said, "Okay, I can't rely on Muhammad then. Maybe I have to rely on Muhammad then. Maybe I have to rely on Muhammad then. Maybe I have to rely on the inspiration of the Quran." Cuz the inspiration of the Quran." Cuz the inspiration of the Quran." Cuz Muslims believe in the shahada. In order Muslims believe in the shahada. In order Muslims believe in the shahada. In order to become Muslim, you have to believe in to become Muslim, you have to believe in to become Muslim, you have to believe in the shahada, which is Muhammad Allah. the shahada, which is Muhammad Allah. the shahada, which is Muhammad Allah. There is no god but Allah and Muhammad There is no god but Allah and Muhammad There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger. So there's no god but is his messenger. So there's no god but is his messenger. So there's no god but Allah. And I tried to defend that Allah. And I tried to defend that Allah. And I tried to defend that through the Quran. And Muhammad is his through the Quran. And Muhammad is his through the Quran. And Muhammad is his messenger. I tried to defend that by messenger. I tried to defend that by messenger. I tried to defend that by investigating his life. This part didn't investigating his life. This part didn't investigating his life. This part didn't work. So I then turned to the Quran and work. So I then turned to the Quran and work. So I then turned to the Quran and I started saying, well, the Quran must I started saying, well, the Quran must I started saying, well, the Quran must be the word of God. And I went to all be the word of God. And I went to all be the word of God. And I went to all the apologetic reasons that I'd been the apologetic reasons that I'd been the apologetic reasons that I'd been given from childhood as to why the Quran given from childhood as to why the Quran given from childhood as to why the Quran is the word of God. I'd been told the is the word of God. I'd been told the is the word of God. I'd been told the Quran had never changed. I had been told Quran had never changed. I had been told Quran had never changed. I had been told that the Quran had miracles inside it, that the Quran had miracles inside it, that the Quran had miracles inside it, miraculous scientific knowledge. I had miraculous scientific knowledge. I had miraculous scientific knowledge. I had been told that the Quran had uh been told that the Quran had uh been told that the Quran had uh prophecies of the future. And as I began prophecies of the future. And as I began prophecies of the future. And as I began to investigate each and every single one to investigate each and every single one to investigate each and every single one of these claims again with the same of these claims again with the same of these claims again with the same critical eye that I used on critical eye that I used on critical eye that I used on Christianity, when you apply the same

Christianity, when you apply the same Christianity, when you apply the same level of skepticism to Christianity to level of skepticism to Christianity to level of skepticism to Christianity to any other worldview, Christianity comes any other worldview, Christianity comes any other worldview, Christianity comes out on top every single time. And I'm out on top every single time. And I'm out on top every single time. And I'm talking way on top. And when I compared talking way on top. And when I compared talking way on top. And when I compared Islam to Christianity, I realized Islam to Christianity, I realized Islam to Christianity, I realized Christianity came way on top. Christianity came way on top. Christianity came way on top. Now, this is when my world fell into Now, this is when my world fell into Now, this is when my world fell into crisis crisis crisis because I couldn't just all of a sudden because I couldn't just all of a sudden because I couldn't just all of a sudden accept the gospel. If I were to do that, accept the gospel. If I were to do that, accept the gospel. If I were to do that, then I would be bringing tremendous then I would be bringing tremendous then I would be bringing tremendous shame upon my family. And Muslim shame upon my family. And Muslim shame upon my family. And Muslim families often come from honor shame families often come from honor shame families often come from honor shame background. So, to give you an idea, background. So, to give you an idea, background. So, to give you an idea, everything my grandfather did, everything my grandfather did, everything my grandfather did, everything my greatgrandfather did in everything my greatgrandfather did in everything my greatgrandfather did in preaching Islam was to build honor and preaching Islam was to build honor and preaching Islam was to build honor and and pride in the community. And if their and pride in the community. And if their and pride in the community. And if their grandson, if their greatgrandson became grandson, if their greatgrandson became grandson, if their greatgrandson became Christian, then it's as if I leveled all Christian, then it's as if I leveled all Christian, then it's as if I leveled all the honor they ever gained in their the honor they ever gained in their the honor they ever gained in their entire lives. And it's not just me who's entire lives. And it's not just me who's entire lives. And it's not just me who's going to be looked at with shame from my going to be looked at with shame from my going to be looked at with shame from my family. My family, my mother and father family. My family, my mother and father family. My family, my mother and father who spent their whole lives pouring into who spent their whole lives pouring into who spent their whole lives pouring into me. If I become a Christian, I'm me. If I become a Christian, I'm me. If I become a Christian, I'm bringing shame to them and I drag their bringing shame to them and I drag their bringing shame to them and I drag their reputation through the mud and now their reputation through the mud and now their reputation through the mud and now their lives are destroyed because of my lives are destroyed because of my lives are destroyed because of my decision.

decision. decision. And so these kinds of considerations And so these kinds of considerations And so these kinds of considerations make it extremely difficult for a Muslim make it extremely difficult for a Muslim make it extremely difficult for a Muslim to consider becoming a Christian. On top to consider becoming a Christian. On top to consider becoming a Christian. On top of that, there is something called the of that, there is something called the of that, there is something called the law of apostasy in Islam. Traditionally law of apostasy in Islam. Traditionally law of apostasy in Islam. Traditionally speaking, and to to be a little bit more speaking, and to to be a little bit more speaking, and to to be a little bit more specific, all four schools of specific, all four schools of specific, all four schools of traditional Sunni Islam and all three traditional Sunni Islam and all three traditional Sunni Islam and all three major schools of traditional Shia Islam major schools of traditional Shia Islam major schools of traditional Shia Islam teach that if you leave Islam, you can teach that if you leave Islam, you can teach that if you leave Islam, you can be killed in various circumstances. They be killed in various circumstances. They be killed in various circumstances. They disagree on the circumstances, but they disagree on the circumstances, but they disagree on the circumstances, but they all agree that it can happen. And so a all agree that it can happen. And so a all agree that it can happen. And so a Muslim has to think about maybe giving Muslim has to think about maybe giving Muslim has to think about maybe giving up his social life for sure and maybe up his social life for sure and maybe up his social life for sure and maybe even destroying his family's social life even destroying his family's social life even destroying his family's social life and then maybe even giving up your life and then maybe even giving up your life and then maybe even giving up your life itself because of the law of apostasy. itself because of the law of apostasy. itself because of the law of apostasy. And then if you're wrong about all this, And then if you're wrong about all this, And then if you're wrong about all this, the Quran says you're going to hell. the Quran says you're going to hell. the Quran says you're going to hell. >> Can I just make emphasize the point of >> Can I just make emphasize the point of >> Can I just make emphasize the point of how much of a big deal that is? Putting how much of a big deal that is? Putting how much of a big deal that is? Putting your own life in danger because of your own life in danger because of your own life in danger because of something you believe in your mind. I something you believe in your mind. I something you believe in your mind. I mean, how bonkers is that? in 2026 you mean, how bonkers is that? in 2026 you mean, how bonkers is that? in 2026 you can literally be killed for something can literally be killed for something can literally be killed for something like that. That is absolutely like that. That is absolutely like that. That is absolutely unacceptable on like any single unacceptable on like any single unacceptable on like any single religion. And also can I make the point religion. And also can I make the point religion. And also can I make the point as well people often speak about the the as well people often speak about the the as well people often speak about the the rapid growth of Islam and it is true rapid growth of Islam and it is true rapid growth of Islam and it is true Islam is growing. However, that's to do Islam is growing. However, that's to do Islam is growing. However, that's to do with birth rates and also points like with birth rates and also points like with birth rates and also points like this. Try leave Islam if you're in the this. Try leave Islam if you're in the this. Try leave Islam if you're in the west. Try leave it wherever you are. You west. Try leave it wherever you are. You west. Try leave it wherever you are. You will like the the social ridicule will will like the the social ridicule will will like the the social ridicule will be unbelievable. And that's not even be unbelievable. And that's not even be unbelievable. And that's not even getting into the dangers, the literal getting into the dangers, the literal getting into the dangers, the literal life and death scenarios of doing that.

life and death scenarios of doing that. life and death scenarios of doing that. So I think it's such a great point. You So I think it's such a great point. You So I think it's such a great point. You know, if something is true, you do not know, if something is true, you do not know, if something is true, you do not need to kill someone for it. You do not. need to kill someone for it. You do not. need to kill someone for it. You do not. Simple as everything literally is Simple as everything literally is Simple as everything literally is balanced balanced balanced and it makes it extremely difficult for and it makes it extremely difficult for and it makes it extremely difficult for someone to leave Islam. So at this someone to leave Islam. So at this someone to leave Islam. So at this point, I fell to my knees and started point, I fell to my knees and started point, I fell to my knees and started asking God in the daily prayers. outside asking God in the daily prayers. outside asking God in the daily prayers. outside of the daily prayers, I'm asking God, of the daily prayers, I'm asking God, of the daily prayers, I'm asking God, God, I need you to reveal yourself to God, I need you to reveal yourself to God, I need you to reveal yourself to me. I I have looked and it looks like me. I I have looked and it looks like me. I I have looked and it looks like Islam is not true. Please forgive me for Islam is not true. Please forgive me for Islam is not true. Please forgive me for saying that. And it looks like saying that. And it looks like saying that. And it looks like Christianity might be true. Please Christianity might be true. Please Christianity might be true. Please forgive me for saying that. Can you tell forgive me for saying that. Can you tell forgive me for saying that. Can you tell me who you are? me who you are? me who you are? Now, to give you a little bit of Now, to give you a little bit of Now, to give you a little bit of understanding and insight into Islamic understanding and insight into Islamic understanding and insight into Islamic culture, culture, culture, the veil is not torn down the way the veil is not torn down the way the veil is not torn down the way Christians believe. According to Islam, Christians believe. According to Islam, Christians believe. According to Islam, the veil is still up. Muslims don't the veil is still up. Muslims don't the veil is still up. Muslims don't commune with God. Even the prophets commune with God. Even the prophets commune with God. Even the prophets didn't commune with God. The prophets didn't commune with God. The prophets didn't commune with God. The prophets spoke to angels who spoke to God.

spoke to angels who spoke to God. spoke to angels who spoke to God. So, Muslims aren't ready to just receive So, Muslims aren't ready to just receive So, Muslims aren't ready to just receive information from God. They're not of information from God. They're not of information from God. They're not of that kind of status. They don't think so that kind of status. They don't think so that kind of status. They don't think so anyway. But there's one way that Muslims anyway. But there's one way that Muslims anyway. But there's one way that Muslims expect to hear directly from God. Anyone expect to hear directly from God. Anyone expect to hear directly from God. Anyone know? know? know? Dreams. Muslims believe that they can Dreams. Muslims believe that they can Dreams. Muslims believe that they can receive dreams from God for guidance. receive dreams from God for guidance. receive dreams from God for guidance. And so they ask God for dreams for And so they ask God for dreams for And so they ask God for dreams for guidance. There's a special type of guidance. There's a special type of guidance. There's a special type of prayer called salatist where Muslims prayer called salatist where Muslims prayer called salatist where Muslims specifically get on their knees and say, specifically get on their knees and say, specifically get on their knees and say, "God, guide me through dreams." My dad "God, guide me through dreams." My dad "God, guide me through dreams." My dad chose his jobs based on those. My sister chose his jobs based on those. My sister chose his jobs based on those. My sister chose her husband based on dreams. Uh we chose her husband based on dreams. Uh we chose her husband based on dreams. Uh we we decided when to move based on dreams. we decided when to move based on dreams. we decided when to move based on dreams. And by the way, some of these dreams And by the way, some of these dreams And by the way, some of these dreams became prophetically true. For example, became prophetically true. For example, became prophetically true. For example, my mother uh when she got married to my my mother uh when she got married to my my mother uh when she got married to my father, she had a dream that she was father, she had a dream that she was father, she had a dream that she was planting four seeds in the ground and planting four seeds in the ground and planting four seeds in the ground and two of those seeds grew up into trees two of those seeds grew up into trees two of those seeds grew up into trees and two did not. and two did not. and two did not. She goes to my aunt and she says, "I She goes to my aunt and she says, "I She goes to my aunt and she says, "I just had this dream." And my aunt says just had this dream." And my aunt says just had this dream." And my aunt says to her, "Blessed are you, for God has to her, "Blessed are you, for God has to her, "Blessed are you, for God has already told you that you will be already told you that you will be already told you that you will be pregnant four times and you'll have two pregnant four times and you'll have two pregnant four times and you'll have two children and two miscarriages."

children and two miscarriages." children and two miscarriages." Fast forward 17 years, that's exactly Fast forward 17 years, that's exactly Fast forward 17 years, that's exactly what happened. I've got some creepy stories I could I've got some creepy stories I could share with you, but we don't have enough share with you, but we don't have enough share with you, but we don't have enough time. This happens very regularly. Now, time. This happens very regularly. Now, time. This happens very regularly. Now, why does it happen? Could be a variety why does it happen? Could be a variety why does it happen? Could be a variety of reasons. Is it God giving the dreams? of reasons. Is it God giving the dreams? of reasons. Is it God giving the dreams? Is it something else giving the dreams? Is it something else giving the dreams? Is it something else giving the dreams? It could be a variety of things. That's It could be a variety of things. That's It could be a variety of things. That's not my point. My point is that Muslims not my point. My point is that Muslims not my point. My point is that Muslims expect to hear from God based on dreams. expect to hear from God based on dreams. expect to hear from God based on dreams. And on the face of it, they have good And on the face of it, they have good And on the face of it, they have good reason to believe that. And so, I asked reason to believe that. And so, I asked reason to believe that. And so, I asked God for dreams and visions. And I God for dreams and visions. And I God for dreams and visions. And I ultimately received one vision and three ultimately received one vision and three ultimately received one vision and three dreams. dreams. dreams. I'll give you the second dream because I'll give you the second dream because I'll give you the second dream because that was the one that was most powerful that was the one that was most powerful that was the one that was most powerful for me. I wanted something very clear for me. I wanted something very clear for me. I wanted something very clear and God gave me a very clear dream. By and God gave me a very clear dream. By and God gave me a very clear dream. By the way, at this point, it's been about the way, at this point, it's been about the way, at this point, it's been about four years since David and I started four years since David and I started four years since David and I started discussing Christianity and Islam. discussing Christianity and Islam. discussing Christianity and Islam. In this dream, I'm standing at the In this dream, I'm standing at the In this dream, I'm standing at the threshold of a narrow door. This door is threshold of a narrow door. This door is threshold of a narrow door. This door is just wide enough to fit me, just tall just wide enough to fit me, just tall just wide enough to fit me, just tall enough to fit me. And there's some depth enough to fit me. And there's some depth enough to fit me. And there's some depth to it, maybe five or seven feet. It's to it, maybe five or seven feet. It's to it, maybe five or seven feet. It's made of brick, an archway kind of. And made of brick, an archway kind of. And made of brick, an archway kind of. And as I look into that doorway, there's a as I look into that doorway, there's a as I look into that doorway, there's a room set with a feast. Round tables, room set with a feast. Round tables, room set with a feast. Round tables, people sitting at this feast. The food people sitting at this feast. The food people sitting at this feast. The food is has been put out and people are in is has been put out and people are in is has been put out and people are in fine clothes. It's like a wedding feast.

fine clothes. It's like a wedding feast. fine clothes. It's like a wedding feast. And they're about to start eating, but And they're about to start eating, but And they're about to start eating, but they haven't started yet. They're all they haven't started yet. They're all they haven't started yet. They're all looking that direction. They're waiting looking that direction. They're waiting looking that direction. They're waiting for the owner or the speaker or whoever for the owner or the speaker or whoever for the owner or the speaker or whoever to come and start this feast. to come and start this feast. to come and start this feast. And I want to get into that room because And I want to get into that room because And I want to get into that room because I know that that room is heaven. But I I know that that room is heaven. But I I know that that room is heaven. But I can't because at the other end of the can't because at the other end of the can't because at the other end of the doorway is my friend David. He's also doorway is my friend David. He's also doorway is my friend David. He's also sitting and waiting. He's not looking at sitting and waiting. He's not looking at sitting and waiting. He's not looking at me, but he's kind of blocking the way. I me, but he's kind of blocking the way. I me, but he's kind of blocking the way. I can't get past him. And so I say to him can't get past him. And so I say to him can't get past him. And so I say to him in the dream, "I thought we were going in the dream, "I thought we were going in the dream, "I thought we were going to eat together." to eat together." to eat together." And he says, "You haven't responded." And he says, "You haven't responded." And he says, "You haven't responded." And in the dream, I knew that I had to And in the dream, I knew that I had to And in the dream, I knew that I had to respond to David's invitation in order respond to David's invitation in order respond to David's invitation in order to get into heaven. But here's where it to get into heaven. But here's where it to get into heaven. But here's where it gets crazy. When I woke up, I called gets crazy. When I woke up, I called gets crazy. When I woke up, I called David and I asked him, "What do you David and I asked him, "What do you David and I asked him, "What do you think this dream means?" And it was the think this dream means?" And it was the think this dream means?" And it was the first time I heard someone's eyes roll first time I heard someone's eyes roll first time I heard someone's eyes roll over the phone. over the phone. over the phone. And he says, "Nabil, this dream is so And he says, "Nabil, this dream is so And he says, "Nabil, this dream is so clear, clear, clear, I don't need to interpret it for you. I don't need to interpret it for you. I don't need to interpret it for you. Just go to the Bible." And I said, "What Just go to the Bible." And I said, "What Just go to the Bible." And I said, "What do you mean?" He says, "Go to Luke do you mean?" He says, "Go to Luke do you mean?" He says, "Go to Luke chapter 13." Now, David knew his chapter 13." Now, David knew his chapter 13." Now, David knew his scriptures, by the way, and he had given scriptures, by the way, and he had given scriptures, by the way, and he had given me a Bible, a study Bible. And when I me a Bible, a study Bible. And when I me a Bible, a study Bible. And when I turned to Luke chapter 13, it said in turned to Luke chapter 13, it said in turned to Luke chapter 13, it said in big bold letters, the narrow door.

big bold letters, the narrow door. big bold letters, the narrow door. Now, the moment I saw that, my heart Now, the moment I saw that, my heart Now, the moment I saw that, my heart skipped a beat because that was the most skipped a beat because that was the most skipped a beat because that was the most powerful symbol in my dream. And I powerful symbol in my dream. And I powerful symbol in my dream. And I started reading. I'm going to paraphrase started reading. I'm going to paraphrase started reading. I'm going to paraphrase it for you. And basically, here's what it for you. And basically, here's what it for you. And basically, here's what it says. Jesus was going through the it says. Jesus was going through the it says. Jesus was going through the towns and villages preaching the good towns and villages preaching the good towns and villages preaching the good news. And the disciples asked him, news. And the disciples asked him, news. And the disciples asked him, "Lord, are many going to be saved?" And "Lord, are many going to be saved?" And "Lord, are many going to be saved?" And he said, "Make every effort to enter he said, "Make every effort to enter he said, "Make every effort to enter through that narrow door. For many, I through that narrow door. For many, I through that narrow door. For many, I tell you, will try and few will be able. tell you, will try and few will be able. tell you, will try and few will be able. And you will see people sitting inside And you will see people sitting inside And you will see people sitting inside at the wedding feast of heaven. Make at the wedding feast of heaven. Make at the wedding feast of heaven. Make every effort to enter before the owner every effort to enter before the owner every effort to enter before the owner comes and closes that door. comes and closes that door. comes and closes that door. I had never read this section of the I had never read this section of the I had never read this section of the Bible before. And I knew God had given Bible before. And I knew God had given Bible before. And I knew God had given me a dream where he placed me right into me a dream where he placed me right into me a dream where he placed me right into the middle of this parable and he told the middle of this parable and he told the middle of this parable and he told me where I stood. me where I stood. me where I stood. So I looked up at God and I said, "God, So I looked up at God and I said, "God, So I looked up at God and I said, "God, I need another dream. I need another dream. I need another dream. Don't judge me, Christians. Don't judge me, Christians. Don't judge me, Christians. So, I asked for another dream. God gave So, I asked for another dream. God gave So, I asked for another dream. God gave me another dream. And then at the end of me another dream. And then at the end of me another dream. And then at the end of that summer, I remember driving to that summer, I remember driving to that summer, I remember driving to school. By this point, I'm in my school. By this point, I'm in my school. By this point, I'm in my starting my second year of medical starting my second year of medical starting my second year of medical school. The first conversation I had school. The first conversation I had school. The first conversation I had with David was my freshman year of with David was my freshman year of with David was my freshman year of college. And so, I'm starting my second college. And so, I'm starting my second college. And so, I'm starting my second year of med school. But at this point, year of med school. But at this point, year of med school. But at this point, I've had three dreams. I have all this I've had three dreams. I have all this I've had three dreams. I have all this evidence. I have guidance from God. Yet, evidence. I have guidance from God. Yet, evidence. I have guidance from God. Yet, I haven't converted. And this is the I haven't converted. And this is the I haven't converted. And this is the reason why. As I'm driving to school, I reason why. As I'm driving to school, I reason why. As I'm driving to school, I say to God, "God, I know what I need to say to God, "God, I know what I need to say to God, "God, I know what I need to do, but I need time to mourn.

do, but I need time to mourn. do, but I need time to mourn. I need time to mourn. By the way, I'm I need time to mourn. By the way, I'm I need time to mourn. By the way, I'm just crying. I'm just losing it in the just crying. I'm just losing it in the just crying. I'm just losing it in the car. Not a good state to go to school car. Not a good state to go to school car. Not a good state to go to school in. So, I go back to my apartment and I in. So, I go back to my apartment and I in. So, I go back to my apartment and I don't know what I'm doing. So, I pull don't know what I'm doing. So, I pull don't know what I'm doing. So, I pull out the Quran and the Bible and I say, out the Quran and the Bible and I say, out the Quran and the Bible and I say, "God, just give me comfort." And I open "God, just give me comfort." And I open "God, just give me comfort." And I open up the Quran and I start reading it. For up the Quran and I start reading it. For up the Quran and I start reading it. For the first time in my life, I start the first time in my life, I start the first time in my life, I start reading the Quran, not for lurggical reading the Quran, not for lurggical reading the Quran, not for lurggical reasons, but for personal guidance. reasons, but for personal guidance. reasons, but for personal guidance. And as I'm looking for comfort, I And as I'm looking for comfort, I And as I'm looking for comfort, I realized there is not a single verse in realized there is not a single verse in realized there is not a single verse in the Quran designed to to comfort a the Quran designed to to comfort a the Quran designed to to comfort a hurting man. Not one. hurting man. Not one. hurting man. Not one. And so I realized this book didn't even And so I realized this book didn't even And so I realized this book didn't even apply to my life. And I put it away. And apply to my life. And I put it away. And apply to my life. And I put it away. And I turned to the Bible. I said, I don't I turned to the Bible. I said, I don't I turned to the Bible. I said, I don't even know where to start in the Bible. even know where to start in the Bible. even know where to start in the Bible. I'd never gone to it for personal I'd never gone to it for personal I'd never gone to it for personal guidance either. I just gone to it to guidance either. I just gone to it to guidance either. I just gone to it to try to tear it down. And so I say, fine, try to tear it down. And so I say, fine, try to tear it down. And so I say, fine, I'll just start with the New Testament. I'll just start with the New Testament. I'll just start with the New Testament. Opened it to Matthew chapter 1. saw a Opened it to Matthew chapter 1. saw a Opened it to Matthew chapter 1. saw a bunch of genealogies, so I skipped them. bunch of genealogies, so I skipped them. bunch of genealogies, so I skipped them. I had an excuse. I was a Muslim. I don't I had an excuse. I was a Muslim. I don't I had an excuse. I was a Muslim. I don't know what your excuse is.

know what your excuse is. know what your excuse is. I skipped them. It didn't take me long I skipped them. It didn't take me long I skipped them. It didn't take me long to get to Matthew chapter 5 where it to get to Matthew chapter 5 where it to get to Matthew chapter 5 where it says, "Blessed are those who mourn, for says, "Blessed are those who mourn, for says, "Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted." they shall be comforted." they shall be comforted." And when I saw those words, it was like And when I saw those words, it was like And when I saw those words, it was like electric on the page. And it like jumped electric on the page. And it like jumped electric on the page. And it like jumped off the page and started my heart. off the page and started my heart. off the page and started my heart. That's what it felt like. And as I'm That's what it felt like. And as I'm That's what it felt like. And as I'm reading these words, I'm thinking, reading these words, I'm thinking, reading these words, I'm thinking, "Jesus said that for me. Forget you "Jesus said that for me. Forget you "Jesus said that for me. Forget you guys. He said that for me 2,000 years guys. He said that for me 2,000 years guys. He said that for me 2,000 years ago." And I start I honestly start ago." And I start I honestly start ago." And I start I honestly start reading this and every single verse I reading this and every single verse I reading this and every single verse I start reading. I begin to feel like I'm start reading. I begin to feel like I'm start reading. I begin to feel like I'm having a conversation with the Bible. I having a conversation with the Bible. I having a conversation with the Bible. I ask God a question like, "God, how do I ask God a question like, "God, how do I ask God a question like, "God, how do I know you can hear my prayers?" And then know you can hear my prayers?" And then know you can hear my prayers?" And then I read the footnote on the study Bible I read the footnote on the study Bible I read the footnote on the study Bible that says, "If you want to know God can that says, "If you want to know God can that says, "If you want to know God can hear your prayers, go to 1 John 5." hear your prayers, go to 1 John 5." hear your prayers, go to 1 John 5." Sweet. Boom. And so I'm reading the Sweet. Boom. And so I'm reading the Sweet. Boom. And so I'm reading the Bible going back and forth and I finally Bible going back and forth and I finally Bible going back and forth and I finally get to Matthew chapter 10. Matthew get to Matthew chapter 10. Matthew get to Matthew chapter 10. Matthew chapter 10 says, "He who proclaims me chapter 10 says, "He who proclaims me chapter 10 says, "He who proclaims me before the people of this world, I will before the people of this world, I will before the people of this world, I will proclaim before my father in heaven. And proclaim before my father in heaven. And proclaim before my father in heaven. And he who denies me before the people of he who denies me before the people of he who denies me before the people of this world, I will deny before my father this world, I will deny before my father this world, I will deny before my father in heaven." See, I had all the evidence in heaven." See, I had all the evidence in heaven." See, I had all the evidence that I needed. I had all the spiritual that I needed. I had all the spiritual that I needed. I had all the spiritual guidance I had asked for. Now I had guidance I had asked for. Now I had guidance I had asked for. Now I had emotional comfort through the word emotional comfort through the word emotional comfort through the word knowing it was the word of God but I knowing it was the word of God but I knowing it was the word of God but I hadn't proclaimed.

I looked at God and I said, "God, if if I looked at God and I said, "God, if if I do this though, I do this though, I do this though, I have to give up my family." I have to give up my family." I have to give up my family." Matthew chapter 10's next verses, you Matthew chapter 10's next verses, you Matthew chapter 10's next verses, you want to know what they are? He who loves want to know what they are? He who loves want to know what they are? He who loves father or mother more than me is not father or mother more than me is not father or mother more than me is not worthy of me. worthy of me. worthy of me. As I read that, I said, "God, it's not As I read that, I said, "God, it's not As I read that, I said, "God, it's not just my parents, though. It's my whole just my parents, though. It's my whole just my parents, though. It's my whole life. life. life. What the next verses say? What the next verses say? What the next verses say? He who is not willing to pick up his He who is not willing to pick up his He who is not willing to pick up his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. cross and follow me is not worthy of me. cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Yeah, God knows the cost. The cost that Yeah, God knows the cost. The cost that Yeah, God knows the cost. The cost that Muslims have to pay today, the cost that Muslims have to pay today, the cost that Muslims have to pay today, the cost that you might have to pay if you're you might have to pay if you're you might have to pay if you're listening to this is not a new cost. listening to this is not a new cost. listening to this is not a new cost. It's the cost the disciples had to pay It's the cost the disciples had to pay It's the cost the disciples had to pay from the very beginning. It's the cost from the very beginning. It's the cost from the very beginning. It's the cost we all must be ready to pay. As the we all must be ready to pay. As the we all must be ready to pay. As the famous German theologian Dietrich famous German theologian Dietrich famous German theologian Dietrich Bonhoffer says, you know, when Christ Bonhoffer says, you know, when Christ Bonhoffer says, you know, when Christ calls a man, he bids him to come and calls a man, he bids him to come and calls a man, he bids him to come and die. To be a Christian, ladies and die. To be a Christian, ladies and die. To be a Christian, ladies and gentlemen, is to be radical. It's not to gentlemen, is to be radical. It's not to gentlemen, is to be radical. It's not to be lukewarm. It's not to be tepid. It's be lukewarm. It's not to be tepid. It's be lukewarm. It's not to be tepid. It's not to be just a little bit there. No, not to be just a little bit there. No, not to be just a little bit there. No, it is everything. It's your whole life.

it is everything. It's your whole life. it is everything. It's your whole life. It's the way you wake up in the morning. It's the way you wake up in the morning. It's the way you wake up in the morning. It's the way you speak when you're It's the way you speak when you're It's the way you speak when you're hurting. It's the way you you speak when hurting. It's the way you you speak when hurting. It's the way you you speak when you're in love. It's the way you speak you're in love. It's the way you speak you're in love. It's the way you speak when you're in joy, when you're in when you're in joy, when you're in when you're in joy, when you're in sadness, when you're in pain. It is sadness, when you're in pain. It is sadness, when you're in pain. It is every single moment of your life. And we every single moment of your life. And we every single moment of your life. And we must never ever forget people like him must never ever forget people like him must never ever forget people like him who do convert to Christianity and the who do convert to Christianity and the who do convert to Christianity and the cost they have in doing that. And in the cost they have in doing that. And in the cost they have in doing that. And in the west it's very easy to be complacent west it's very easy to be complacent west it's very easy to be complacent about this. You know we we turn up to about this. You know we we turn up to about this. You know we we turn up to Sunday school. We go to church every Sunday school. We go to church every Sunday school. We go to church every Sunday. But what do we do with our Sunday. But what do we do with our Sunday. But what do we do with our money? How do we treat those when we see money? How do we treat those when we see money? How do we treat those when we see a bloke hurting in the street? How how a bloke hurting in the street? How how a bloke hurting in the street? How how do we speak to the person we don't like? do we speak to the person we don't like? do we speak to the person we don't like? How how do we do all that? I'm I'm not How how do we do all that? I'm I'm not How how do we do all that? I'm I'm not saying I'm perfect. I'm not even close saying I'm perfect. I'm not even close saying I'm perfect. I'm not even close to that. There is a billion things I do. to that. There is a billion things I do. to that. There is a billion things I do. I lust. I lie. I cheat. And I'm not I lust. I lie. I cheat. And I'm not I lust. I lie. I cheat. And I'm not saying I'm good, but like I'm trying my saying I'm good, but like I'm trying my saying I'm good, but like I'm trying my best just like every Christian on the best just like every Christian on the best just like every Christian on the planet. But the point I'm making is we planet. But the point I'm making is we planet. But the point I'm making is we got to try and be radical. We got to try got to try and be radical. We got to try got to try and be radical. We got to try and not just listen to the words of the and not just listen to the words of the and not just listen to the words of the gospel, but act the words of the gospel. gospel, but act the words of the gospel. gospel, but act the words of the gospel. Act how we want to be. You know, treat Act how we want to be. You know, treat Act how we want to be. You know, treat our fellow brother and sister like they our fellow brother and sister like they our fellow brother and sister like they are us, like we care about them more are us, like we care about them more are us, like we care about them more than we care about ourselves. You know, than we care about ourselves. You know, than we care about ourselves. You know, we walk around, we think about ourselves we walk around, we think about ourselves we walk around, we think about ourselves all the time. We think about all these all the time. We think about all these all the time. We think about all these things going on in our head. You know, things going on in our head. You know, things going on in our head. You know, how do I look? How much money do I have?

how do I look? How much money do I have? how do I look? How much money do I have? You know, what about if we thought about You know, what about if we thought about You know, what about if we thought about ourselves the amount we think about ourselves the amount we think about ourselves the amount we think about other people? How much different would other people? How much different would other people? How much different would the world look? If the thing that the world look? If the thing that the world look? If the thing that controlled everything that everybody do controlled everything that everybody do controlled everything that everybody do does was love, just imagine what the does was love, just imagine what the does was love, just imagine what the world would look like. world would look like. world would look like. >> And so, I got on my knees and I prayed >> And so, I got on my knees and I prayed >> And so, I got on my knees and I prayed something. something. something. No one had told me about the sinner's No one had told me about the sinner's No one had told me about the sinner's prayer. Prayed something that sounded prayer. Prayed something that sounded prayer. Prayed something that sounded very Muslim but uh I did say Lord I very Muslim but uh I did say Lord I very Muslim but uh I did say Lord I believe you are Jesus and I submit to believe you are Jesus and I submit to believe you are Jesus and I submit to you and I thank you for having taken my you and I thank you for having taken my you and I thank you for having taken my sins, died on the cross and risen from sins, died on the cross and risen from sins, died on the cross and risen from the dead. I want to follow you with my the dead. I want to follow you with my the dead. I want to follow you with my life. And that moment I had life. And that moment I had life. And that moment I had intellectually ascented to the gospel. intellectually ascented to the gospel. intellectually ascented to the gospel. But I don't think I had really grasped But I don't think I had really grasped But I don't think I had really grasped the gospel quite yet. That wasn't until the gospel quite yet. That wasn't until the gospel quite yet. That wasn't until a few days later a few days later a few days later when I saw when I saw when I saw my father cry for the first time in my my father cry for the first time in my my father cry for the first time in my life.

life. life. My father was a 24-year veteran of the My father was a 24-year veteran of the My father was a 24-year veteran of the US Navy. To me, he was like my archetype US Navy. To me, he was like my archetype US Navy. To me, he was like my archetype of strength. He was like my superman. of strength. He was like my superman. of strength. He was like my superman. And here's what he said to me. And this And here's what he said to me. And this And here's what he said to me. And this is all he said. Nibil, today I feel as is all he said. Nibil, today I feel as is all he said. Nibil, today I feel as if my backbone has been ripped out from if my backbone has been ripped out from if my backbone has been ripped out from inside me. inside me. inside me. And my mother didn't say a word. And my mother didn't say a word. And my mother didn't say a word. It was like there was a light that had It was like there was a light that had It was like there was a light that had been in her eyes up until that day. And been in her eyes up until that day. And been in her eyes up until that day. And I just turned it off. She hasn't been the same since. She hasn't been the same since. And after that conversation with them, I And after that conversation with them, I And after that conversation with them, I just fell on my knees and just started just fell on my knees and just started just fell on my knees and just started saying to God, "God, why didn't you kill saying to God, "God, why didn't you kill saying to God, "God, why didn't you kill me? Why didn't you kill me, God?" me? Why didn't you kill me, God?" me? Why didn't you kill me, God?" Because before they found out I was a Because before they found out I was a Because before they found out I was a believer, I was saved. I would go to believer, I was saved. I would go to believer, I was saved. I would go to heaven if you killed me. I'd be happy. heaven if you killed me. I'd be happy. heaven if you killed me. I'd be happy. You'd be happy. They'd be happy. We'd You'd be happy. They'd be happy. We'd You'd be happy. They'd be happy. We'd all be happy if you just killed me. all be happy if you just killed me. all be happy if you just killed me. Before I had to tell them, "Why didn't Before I had to tell them, "Why didn't Before I had to tell them, "Why didn't you kill me?" And in that moment, you you kill me?" And in that moment, you you kill me?" And in that moment, you know how you get when sometimes you're know how you get when sometimes you're know how you get when sometimes you're crying, you just start repeating stuff. crying, you just start repeating stuff. crying, you just start repeating stuff. I'm just like, "Why didn't you kill me? I'm just like, "Why didn't you kill me? I'm just like, "Why didn't you kill me? Why didn't you give me back all kinds of Why didn't you give me back all kinds of Why didn't you give me back all kinds of stuff coming out of my face? I got like stuff coming out of my face? I got like stuff coming out of my face? I got like saliva and tears and mucus and I'm just saliva and tears and mucus and I'm just saliva and tears and mucus and I'm just God, why didn't you kill me? And as I'm God, why didn't you kill me? And as I'm God, why didn't you kill me? And as I'm saying that, repeating that, why didn't saying that, repeating that, why didn't saying that, repeating that, why didn't you kill me? Why didn't you kill me? I you kill me? Why didn't you kill me? I you kill me? Why didn't you kill me? I heard these words.

heard these words. heard these words. Because this is not about you. In that moment, my life, my theology, my In that moment, my life, my theology, my everything was just rebooted. everything was just rebooted. everything was just rebooted. And I stood up from there and I walked And I stood up from there and I walked And I stood up from there and I walked outside. By the way, this is I had been outside. By the way, this is I had been outside. By the way, this is I had been crying all night. So, this is the next crying all night. So, this is the next crying all night. So, this is the next morning. I walk outside morning. I walk outside morning. I walk outside and I know this sounds cliche, but it's and I know this sounds cliche, but it's and I know this sounds cliche, but it's true. Everything looked different. true. Everything looked different. true. Everything looked different. Everything looked different. It was the Everything looked different. It was the Everything looked different. It was the same apartment, the same tree, the same same apartment, the same tree, the same same apartment, the same tree, the same street, but it all looked different. And street, but it all looked different. And street, but it all looked different. And the one thing that looked the most the one thing that looked the most the one thing that looked the most different was when I saw someone walking different was when I saw someone walking different was when I saw someone walking across the street. Now, I'd seen that across the street. Now, I'd seen that across the street. Now, I'd seen that millions of times before, but for the millions of times before, but for the millions of times before, but for the first time, I realized that's not just first time, I realized that's not just first time, I realized that's not just someone. That's someone that God was someone. That's someone that God was someone. That's someone that God was willing to die for. willing to die for. willing to die for. Can you I mean, think about this. As a Can you I mean, think about this. As a Can you I mean, think about this. As a Muslim, my whole life, I believe that Muslim, my whole life, I believe that Muslim, my whole life, I believe that God sat on his throne and he would never God sat on his throne and he would never God sat on his throne and he would never enter into this world and he ruled us enter into this world and he ruled us enter into this world and he ruled us from above and he gave us a bunch of from above and he gave us a bunch of from above and he gave us a bunch of things to do and he would judge us at things to do and he would judge us at things to do and he would judge us at the end of time. But this story is that the end of time. But this story is that the end of time. But this story is that God was willing to enter into this world God was willing to enter into this world God was willing to enter into this world in a filthy world. And he was willing to in a filthy world. And he was willing to in a filthy world. And he was willing to to live as a carpenter, bluecollar to live as a carpenter, bluecollar to live as a carpenter, bluecollar laborer. And he's willing to live with laborer. And he's willing to live with laborer. And he's willing to live with people who would ultimately betray him.

people who would ultimately betray him. people who would ultimately betray him. And then he's willing to go to a cross And then he's willing to go to a cross And then he's willing to go to a cross and suffer and die for the sake of and suffer and die for the sake of and suffer and die for the sake of sinners. sinners. sinners. Our God who created the universe. All Our God who created the universe. All Our God who created the universe. All the stars in the sky, he just thought the stars in the sky, he just thought the stars in the sky, he just thought them into existence. that God is willing them into existence. that God is willing them into existence. that God is willing to die. And as he tells us that he loves to die. And as he tells us that he loves to die. And as he tells us that he loves us so much, he's willing to die for us. us so much, he's willing to die for us. us so much, he's willing to die for us. This is what he says. As I have loved This is what he says. As I have loved This is what he says. As I have loved you, so love one another. And if I'm you, so love one another. And if I'm you, so love one another. And if I'm willing to watch someone walk across the willing to watch someone walk across the willing to watch someone walk across the street and let them go about their day, street and let them go about their day, street and let them go about their day, and I'm not willing to love them so much and I'm not willing to love them so much and I'm not willing to love them so much that I'm ready to die for them, then how that I'm ready to die for them, then how that I'm ready to die for them, then how am I following Jesus? am I following Jesus? am I following Jesus? What does it mean to follow Jesus if What does it mean to follow Jesus if What does it mean to follow Jesus if he's willing to die for people who he's willing to die for people who he's willing to die for people who sinned against him and I'm not? How am I sinned against him and I'm not? How am I sinned against him and I'm not? How am I a follower of Jesus? And in that moment, a follower of Jesus? And in that moment, a follower of Jesus? And in that moment, I realized what the gospel was. The I realized what the gospel was. The I realized what the gospel was. The gospel is not something that you just gospel is not something that you just gospel is not something that you just hear and believe. If it doesn't change hear and believe. If it doesn't change hear and believe. If it doesn't change your life, it hasn't hit you yet. your life, it hasn't hit you yet. your life, it hasn't hit you yet. And in that moment, I realized that this And in that moment, I realized that this And in that moment, I realized that this God is worth everything.

God is worth everything. God is worth everything. This story is worth sharing with our This story is worth sharing with our This story is worth sharing with our lives. Oh, and our lives are in his lives. Oh, and our lives are in his lives. Oh, and our lives are in his hands. And if we die today, we're going hands. And if we die today, we're going hands. And if we die today, we're going to be taken care of. But there are to be taken care of. But there are to be taken care of. But there are millions, in fact, billions of people millions, in fact, billions of people millions, in fact, billions of people for whom that is not the case. And if we for whom that is not the case. And if we for whom that is not the case. And if we lived every second of our lives for lived every second of our lives for lived every second of our lives for their sakes, only then would we truly their sakes, only then would we truly their sakes, only then would we truly honor this God who was willing to live honor this God who was willing to live honor this God who was willing to live the life we should have lived, to die the life we should have lived, to die the life we should have lived, to die the death that we should have died. the death that we should have died. the death that we should have died. That's our God, and that's my story. That's our God, and that's my story. That's our God, and that's my story. >> Wow. I mean, what just a phenomenal >> Wow. I mean, what just a phenomenal >> Wow. I mean, what just a phenomenal testimony. I mean, it gave me goosebumps testimony. I mean, it gave me goosebumps testimony. I mean, it gave me goosebumps just listening to that. end it. And this just listening to that. end it. And this just listening to that. end it. And this is a man who probably is in danger. I is a man who probably is in danger. I is a man who probably is in danger. I don't even know what's happened to this don't even know what's happened to this don't even know what's happened to this man if he's still alive or what. But the man if he's still alive or what. But the man if he's still alive or what. But the truth is this is someone who truly truth is this is someone who truly truth is this is someone who truly believes because to leave the faith like believes because to leave the faith like believes because to leave the faith like that and to become a Christian, you put that and to become a Christian, you put that and to become a Christian, you put yourself in harm's way. It's not an easy yourself in harm's way. It's not an easy yourself in harm's way. It's not an easy thing. It's not a convenient thing. It's thing. It's not a convenient thing. It's thing. It's not a convenient thing. It's difficult. It's life and death difficult. It's life and death difficult. It's life and death sometimes. And how often do we not sometimes. And how often do we not sometimes. And how often do we not follow what Jesus said? And to anyone follow what Jesus said? And to anyone follow what Jesus said? And to anyone watching this, just really absorb this.

watching this, just really absorb this. watching this, just really absorb this. And God bless this person. Thank you for And God bless this person. Thank you for And God bless this person. Thank you for him for having the courage and bravery him for having the courage and bravery him for having the courage and bravery to do this. And we must do the same in to do this. And we must do the same in to do this. And we must do the same in our lives. The way we speak to each our lives. The way we speak to each our lives. The way we speak to each other, the way we act, the way we do other, the way we act, the way we do other, the way we act, the way we do what we do with our money, the jobs we what we do with our money, the jobs we what we do with our money, the jobs we do, the places we go, the the the heart do, the places we go, the the the heart do, the places we go, the the the heart posture we have to everything. When posture we have to everything. When posture we have to everything. When we're happy, when we're sad, when we're we're happy, when we're sad, when we're we're happy, when we're sad, when we're miserable, when we're euphoric, we must miserable, when we're euphoric, we must miserable, when we're euphoric, we must hold on to that. And God bless everyone hold on to that. And God bless everyone hold on to that. And God bless everyone who's watched this. And I hope you did who's watched this. And I hope you did who's watched this. And I hope you did enjoy because such wisdom is shared enjoy because such wisdom is shared enjoy because such wisdom is shared here. And yeah, God bless. And I really here. And yeah, God bless. And I really here. And yeah, God bless. And I really hope you take as much as I did from hope you take as much as I did from hope you take as much as I did from this. Yeah, I love you all.