The Vision for TinySeed EMEA

and we are live welcome to microconf on and we are live welcome to microconf on air every other wednesday at 1 pm air every other wednesday at 1 pm air every other wednesday at 1 pm eastern 10 a.m pacific we live stream eastern 10 a.m pacific we live stream eastern 10 a.m pacific we live stream for 30 minutes and we cover topics for 30 minutes and we cover topics for 30 minutes and we cover topics related to building and growing related to building and growing related to building and growing ambitious sas startups that bring us ambitious sas startups that bring us ambitious sas startups that bring us freedom and purpose and allow us to freedom and purpose and allow us to freedom and purpose and allow us to maintain healthy relationships we don't maintain healthy relationships we don't maintain healthy relationships we don't ask for permission to start companies we ask for permission to start companies we ask for permission to start companies we build and we ship real products sell to build and we ship real products sell to build and we ship real products sell to real customers who pay us real money real customers who pay us real money real customers who pay us real money it's going to be a fun day today i'm it's going to be a fun day today i'm it's going to be a fun day today i'm hanging out with alex mcquaid he is the hanging out with alex mcquaid he is the hanging out with alex mcquaid he is the newest addition to the tinyseed team he newest addition to the tinyseed team he newest addition to the tinyseed team he is a program manager for our tiny seed is a program manager for our tiny seed is a program manager for our tiny seed europe europe europe tiny seed emea fund so if you have any tiny seed emea fund so if you have any tiny seed emea fund so if you have any questions for alex or i about this questions for alex or i about this questions for alex or i about this expansion into that section of the globe expansion into that section of the globe expansion into that section of the globe please feel free to put them into the please feel free to put them into the please feel free to put them into the youtube chat or into the microconf youtube chat or into the microconf youtube chat or into the microconf on-air on-air on-air channel in microconf connect if you're channel in microconf connect if you're channel in microconf connect if you're not already a member of microcom connect not already a member of microcom connect not already a member of microcom connect you should be we're approaching 3 000 you should be we're approaching 3 000 you should be we're approaching 3 000 sas founders and aspiring founders it's sas founders and aspiring founders it's sas founders and aspiring founders it's free it's high quality it's heavily free it's high quality it's heavily free it's high quality it's heavily moderated and um moderated and um moderated and um if you want to be part of that head to if you want to be part of that head to if you want to be part of that head to microconf connect microconf connect microconf connect dot com dot com dot com so as i was mentioning today we're so as i was mentioning today we're so as i was mentioning today we're talking about the vision for tiny seed talking about the vision for tiny seed talking about the vision for tiny seed emea and i'd like to welcome my guest emea and i'd like to welcome my guest emea and i'd like to welcome my guest mr alex mcquade to the show mr alex mcquade to the show mr alex mcquade to the show hey there good to see you where are you hey there good to see you where are you hey there good to see you where are you calling in from today i am calling in calling in from today i am calling in calling in from today i am calling in from snowy santa fe new mexico new from snowy santa fe new mexico new from snowy santa fe new mexico new mexico get snow mexico get snow mexico get snow i know right i know right i know right yeah i was tricked it's quite it's quite yeah i was tricked it's quite it's quite yeah i was tricked it's quite it's quite snowy here we were in the middle of a snowy here we were in the middle of a snowy here we were in the middle of a a blizzard and i'm i'm originally from a blizzard and i'm i'm originally from a blizzard and i'm i'm originally from the south so i'm unfamiliar with how to

the south so i'm unfamiliar with how to the south so i'm unfamiliar with how to deal with this yeah i would just think deal with this yeah i would just think deal with this yeah i would just think this shows my bad my geography is but this shows my bad my geography is but this shows my bad my geography is but you know i think of like california gets you know i think of like california gets you know i think of like california gets it in the mountains only and arizona i it in the mountains only and arizona i it in the mountains only and arizona i guess gets it in the mountains so is is guess gets it in the mountains so is is guess gets it in the mountains so is is santa fe mountainous yeah i didn't santa fe mountainous yeah i didn't santa fe mountainous yeah i didn't realize that santa fe is is a really realize that santa fe is is a really realize that santa fe is is a really high elevation um high elevation um high elevation um just a little bit uh we're not too far just a little bit uh we're not too far just a little bit uh we're not too far from taos in the mountains uh so yeah it from taos in the mountains uh so yeah it from taos in the mountains uh so yeah it makes sense when you when you think makes sense when you when you think makes sense when you when you think about the geography about the geography about the geography yeah awesome well thanks for joining me yeah awesome well thanks for joining me yeah awesome well thanks for joining me today we got about you know today we got about you know today we got about you know 25 to 30 minutes talk about a 25 to 30 minutes talk about a 25 to 30 minutes talk about a topic that is near and dear to both of topic that is near and dear to both of topic that is near and dear to both of our hearts yes our hearts yes our hearts yes tiny seed europe or tiny seed emea and tiny seed europe or tiny seed emea and tiny seed europe or tiny seed emea and so you're the program manager you're so you're the program manager you're so you're the program manager you're gonna keep the trains running on time gonna keep the trains running on time gonna keep the trains running on time you're gonna be um living in europe and you're gonna be um living in europe and you're gonna be um living in europe and doing all the stuff in the european time doing all the stuff in the european time doing all the stuff in the european time zone and so europe middle east and zone and so europe middle east and zone and so europe middle east and africa africa africa you know we've had folks apply you know we've had folks apply you know we've had folks apply and get in from most of those regions and get in from most of those regions and get in from most of those regions into tiny seed americas but it's always into tiny seed americas but it's always into tiny seed americas but it's always a little bit of a drag because no matter a little bit of a drag because no matter a little bit of a drag because no matter how late we or i guess no matter how how late we or i guess no matter how how late we or i guess no matter how early we make the calls it's you know early we make the calls it's you know early we make the calls it's you know tends to be towards the end of uh tends to be towards the end of uh tends to be towards the end of uh end of the day for folks so you want to end of the day for folks so you want to end of the day for folks so you want to talk a little bit about um talk a little bit about um talk a little bit about um you know you know you know tiny seed europe why we've decided to do tiny seed europe why we've decided to do tiny seed europe why we've decided to do this and maybe the benefits over uh the this and maybe the benefits over uh the this and maybe the benefits over uh the tiny seed americas program for folks who tiny seed americas program for folks who tiny seed americas program for folks who are in those time zones are in those time zones are in those time zones yeah i think you you hit the nail on the yeah i think you you hit the nail on the yeah i think you you hit the nail on the head with the fact that we've had a lot head with the fact that we've had a lot head with the fact that we've had a lot of interest and you know uh founders of interest and you know uh founders of interest and you know uh founders come on to tiny seed in the past from come on to tiny seed in the past from come on to tiny seed in the past from uh europe middle east and africa and um uh europe middle east and africa and um uh europe middle east and africa and um that's always been a challenge it's been that's always been a challenge it's been that's always been a challenge it's been a really big challenge it's a big ask to

a really big challenge it's a big ask to a really big challenge it's a big ask to not only be available at odd time zones not only be available at odd time zones not only be available at odd time zones but we have we've had our retreats in but we have we've had our retreats in but we have we've had our retreats in the u.s in the past and with tiny seed the u.s in the past and with tiny seed the u.s in the past and with tiny seed mia europe mia europe mia europe we are we're trying to solve that we are we're trying to solve that we are we're trying to solve that problem so we're bringing we're finally problem so we're bringing we're finally problem so we're bringing we're finally uh you know aiming to facilitate uh uh you know aiming to facilitate uh uh you know aiming to facilitate uh founders over in that area and i think founders over in that area and i think founders over in that area and i think there's a real demand for that uh there's a real demand for that uh there's a real demand for that uh as i can see from all the applications as i can see from all the applications as i can see from all the applications that we have coming in but a few things that we have coming in but a few things that we have coming in but a few things i want to hit on that are really the big i want to hit on that are really the big i want to hit on that are really the big benefits um benefits um benefits um more on the obvious side but obviously more on the obvious side but obviously more on the obvious side but obviously now our calls will be in european now our calls will be in european now our calls will be in european business hours so business hours so business hours so uh you're in the i keep saying the gmt uh you're in the i keep saying the gmt uh you're in the i keep saying the gmt to sorry gst the gst plus three uh time to sorry gst the gst plus three uh time to sorry gst the gst plus three uh time range um you can expect to be on uh range um you can expect to be on uh range um you can expect to be on uh normal daytime hours you're not going to normal daytime hours you're not going to normal daytime hours you're not going to stay up until like 9 10 p.m to to jump stay up until like 9 10 p.m to to jump stay up until like 9 10 p.m to to jump on a call on a call on a call and the rest of your cohort is going to and the rest of your cohort is going to and the rest of your cohort is going to be in a similar time zone be in a similar time zone be in a similar time zone and likewise our events are going to be and likewise our events are going to be and likewise our events are going to be actually accessible to you so we'll be actually accessible to you so we'll be actually accessible to you so we'll be holding we'll be scheduling out a whole holding we'll be scheduling out a whole holding we'll be scheduling out a whole new slew of events that are going to be new slew of events that are going to be new slew of events that are going to be in europe that are easy to travel to uh in europe that are easy to travel to uh in europe that are easy to travel to uh lots of exciting cities i think we're lots of exciting cities i think we're lots of exciting cities i think we're already looking at a few i know london's already looking at a few i know london's already looking at a few i know london's on the map on the map on the map so i'm really excited to start building so i'm really excited to start building so i'm really excited to start building out that out that out that that part of the program and giving that part of the program and giving that part of the program and giving everyone a chance to come in person everyone a chance to come in person everyone a chance to come in person because really those retreats are because really those retreats are because really those retreats are a really important part of the program a really important part of the program a really important part of the program building building building long-term relationships with the other long-term relationships with the other long-term relationships with the other founders in your cohort who are going to founders in your cohort who are going to founders in your cohort who are going to be there for you be there for you be there for you past when you finish tinyseed i mean past when you finish tinyseed i mean past when you finish tinyseed i mean these are these are intelligent founders

these are these are intelligent founders these are these are intelligent founders who also have expertise in a variety of who also have expertise in a variety of who also have expertise in a variety of topics that you will be building topics that you will be building topics that you will be building relationships with relationships with relationships with um um um and the last thing i wanted to hit on um and the last thing i wanted to hit on um and the last thing i wanted to hit on um in terms of things that are different in terms of things that are different in terms of things that are different you know you can see in the name but you know you can see in the name but you know you can see in the name but we've been saying tiny seed europe tiny we've been saying tiny seed europe tiny we've been saying tiny seed europe tiny seed emea uh but i i of course want to seed emea uh but i i of course want to seed emea uh but i i of course want to hit on that we are welcoming founders hit on that we are welcoming founders hit on that we are welcoming founders from europe middle east and africa which from europe middle east and africa which from europe middle east and africa which are all within those time zones i was are all within those time zones i was are all within those time zones i was talking about so if you're in that uh talking about so if you're in that uh talking about so if you're in that uh if you're in any of those regions we if you're in any of those regions we if you're in any of those regions we would love to see your application um would love to see your application um would love to see your application um but really uh at the core of it we're but really uh at the core of it we're but really uh at the core of it we're keeping everything that is keeping everything that is keeping everything that is foundational to tiny seed uh for tiny foundational to tiny seed uh for tiny foundational to tiny seed uh for tiny seed emea we still are a year long seed emea we still are a year long seed emea we still are a year long accelerator program we're gonna be accelerator program we're gonna be accelerator program we're gonna be running uh parallel with tiny seed running uh parallel with tiny seed running uh parallel with tiny seed americas americas americas same general timeline same general timeline same general timeline we are we are we are still still still having the same set of amazing mentors having the same set of amazing mentors having the same set of amazing mentors which is really an incredible part of which is really an incredible part of which is really an incredible part of the tiny seed the tiny seed the tiny seed experience i mean our mentor experience i mean our mentor experience i mean our mentor this i i remember when i first came on this i i remember when i first came on this i i remember when i first came on and i was looking through it i was like and i was looking through it i was like and i was looking through it i was like ah jesus this is ah jesus this is ah jesus this is these are like titans this is incredible these are like titans this is incredible these are like titans this is incredible um and i i you know the founders i've um and i i you know the founders i've um and i i you know the founders i've talked with i always tell them uh talked with i always tell them uh talked with i always tell them uh founders in the americas program founders in the americas program founders in the americas program it's it's a strong asset to be able to it's it's a strong asset to be able to it's it's a strong asset to be able to jump on a call with some of these jump on a call with some of these jump on a call with some of these uh industry experts in their individual uh industry experts in their individual uh industry experts in their individual fields and we're not just talking just fields and we're not just talking just fields and we're not just talking just sas founders but sas founders but sas founders but experts on uh marketing copywriting experts on uh marketing copywriting experts on uh marketing copywriting um um um finances i mean really everything you

finances i mean really everything you finances i mean really everything you can think of we would probably have an can think of we would probably have an can think of we would probably have an expert on it who can help we don't we expert on it who can help we don't we expert on it who can help we don't we find them we get some esoteric like hey find them we get some esoteric like hey find them we get some esoteric like hey has anyone ever dealt with you know this has anyone ever dealt with you know this has anyone ever dealt with you know this really weird regulation it's like no but really weird regulation it's like no but really weird regulation it's like no but i'll find somebody who does that so yeah i'll find somebody who does that so yeah i'll find somebody who does that so yeah yeah samuel hulick with onboarding get yeah samuel hulick with onboarding get yeah samuel hulick with onboarding get laura wrote her as a you know a sass laura wrote her as a you know a sass laura wrote her as a you know a sass founder and joanna weeb is an amazing founder and joanna weeb is an amazing founder and joanna weeb is an amazing copyright early in a patch and ran copyright early in a patch and ran copyright early in a patch and ran fishkin and heaton shot you know it just fishkin and heaton shot you know it just fishkin and heaton shot you know it just kind of goes on and on it's like an kind of goes on and on it's like an kind of goes on and on it's like an all-star list of folks who are all-star list of folks who are all-star list of folks who are either founders themselves or you know either founders themselves or you know either founders themselves or you know subject matter experts subject matter experts subject matter experts yeah and uh i think being able to jump yeah and uh i think being able to jump yeah and uh i think being able to jump on a call with them and on a call with them and on a call with them and you know you're stuck you're stuck you know you're stuck you're stuck you know you're stuck you're stuck somewhere and normally it would be somewhere and normally it would be somewhere and normally it would be something that you might have to slug something that you might have to slug something that you might have to slug through for through for through for god knows how long and you're just able god knows how long and you're just able god knows how long and you're just able to jump on a call and you know uh to jump on a call and you know uh to jump on a call and you know uh you know talk with somebody who's been you know talk with somebody who's been you know talk with somebody who's been there that's an expert on it and and there that's an expert on it and and there that's an expert on it and and push you forward that's a that's a huge push you forward that's a that's a huge push you forward that's a that's a huge asset and i think it's it's one of the asset and i think it's it's one of the asset and i think it's it's one of the uh parts of our program that i really uh parts of our program that i really uh parts of our program that i really love love love um um um yeah let me know what am i missing i yeah let me know what am i missing i yeah let me know what am i missing i think i do of course our investment think i do of course our investment think i do of course our investment terms are exactly the same as before um terms are exactly the same as before um terms are exactly the same as before um so so so so yeah really the the most important so yeah really the the most important so yeah really the the most important parts of tiny seed the things that parts of tiny seed the things that parts of tiny seed the things that probably drew you to be interested in probably drew you to be interested in probably drew you to be interested in tiny seed to begin with are still there tiny seed to begin with are still there tiny seed to begin with are still there we're just making it uh easier for you we're just making it uh easier for you we're just making it uh easier for you to participate and um oh and of course to participate and um oh and of course to participate and um oh and of course i forgot the uh you don't have to i forgot the uh you don't have to i forgot the uh you don't have to reincorporate in the u.s that's a big reincorporate in the u.s that's a big reincorporate in the u.s that's a big thing thing thing um yeah that is um yeah that is um yeah that is fully settled on exactly which countries fully settled on exactly which countries fully settled on exactly which countries we we we are able to support because i think

are able to support because i think are able to support because i think supporting an entity in all in every supporting an entity in all in every supporting an entity in all in every country of all the reasons we've just country of all the reasons we've just country of all the reasons we've just said is not feasible it's just not said is not feasible it's just not said is not feasible it's just not financially viable given the size of our financially viable given the size of our financially viable given the size of our investments investments investments but in the complexities that it's not but in the complexities that it's not but in the complexities that it's not just legal tax complexities there's so just legal tax complexities there's so just legal tax complexities there's so much craziness there so but our goal is much craziness there so but our goal is much craziness there so but our goal is to support as many as possible so it's to support as many as possible so it's to support as many as possible so it's like if you're in doubt please apply you like if you're in doubt please apply you like if you're in doubt please apply you know that we do know that we're not know that we do know that we're not know that we do know that we're not going to require us incorporation um going to require us incorporation um going to require us incorporation um there's a chance if you're in a country there's a chance if you're in a country there's a chance if you're in a country that's extremely difficult we may ask that's extremely difficult we may ask that's extremely difficult we may ask hey can you incorporate in hey can you incorporate in hey can you incorporate in whatever whatever whatever a place a a neutral place there's a place a a neutral place there's a place a a neutral place there's there's u.s virgin islands there's um is there's u.s virgin islands there's um is there's u.s virgin islands there's um is it it it luxembourg yeah there's like a few luxembourg yeah there's like a few luxembourg yeah there's like a few places that are kind of considered these places that are kind of considered these places that are kind of considered these general eu uh you know i know the uk has general eu uh you know i know the uk has general eu uh you know i know the uk has um um um reasonable you know more laws that are reasonable you know more laws that are reasonable you know more laws that are make it easier for us to invest in them make it easier for us to invest in them make it easier for us to invest in them so yeah that's a good point because i've so yeah that's a good point because i've so yeah that's a good point because i've gotten a lot of questions from people gotten a lot of questions from people gotten a lot of questions from people asking you know asking you know asking you know about that um and i would just say you about that um and i would just say you about that um and i would just say you know if even let's go ahead and send in know if even let's go ahead and send in know if even let's go ahead and send in an application to us it's it's purposely an application to us it's it's purposely an application to us it's it's purposely a short um pretty straightforward a short um pretty straightforward a short um pretty straightforward application it really shouldn't take application it really shouldn't take application it really shouldn't take more than 15 30 minutes and it's that's more than 15 30 minutes and it's that's more than 15 30 minutes and it's that's the uh that's the jump off point for a the uh that's the jump off point for a the uh that's the jump off point for a conversation um and then we can talk conversation um and then we can talk conversation um and then we can talk with you and dig into that further and with you and dig into that further and with you and dig into that further and uh you know that's a good fit we'll find uh you know that's a good fit we'll find uh you know that's a good fit we'll find a we'll find a solution so a we'll find a solution so a we'll find a solution so go ahead and send one wait in doubt go ahead and send one wait in doubt go ahead and send one wait in doubt apply i like to say it takes about 15 or apply i like to say it takes about 15 or apply i like to say it takes about 15 or 20 minutes if you know your numbers and 20 minutes if you know your numbers and 20 minutes if you know your numbers and applications are open today some people applications are open today some people applications are open today some people have to dig them up you know uh it is have to dig them up you know uh it is have to dig them up you know uh it is they're open as of now and they're open they're open as of now and they're open they're open as of now and they're open through through through sunday february 6th

sunday february 6th sunday february 6th yeah sometimes that day yeah so we have yeah sometimes that day yeah so we have yeah sometimes that day yeah so we have questions coming in already first questions coming in already first questions coming in already first question is can people from the apac question is can people from the apac question is can people from the apac region asia pacific region asia pacific region asia pacific apply to tiny seat apply to tiny seat apply to tiny seat and the answer of course is yes and the answer of course is yes and the answer of course is yes we actually have someone in australia a we actually have someone in australia a we actually have someone in australia a company in our fourth batch so yes you company in our fourth batch so yes you company in our fourth batch so yes you can can can we don't have an apac we don't have an apac we don't have an apac accelerator there yet we don't have a accelerator there yet we don't have a accelerator there yet we don't have a presence so the time zones are a presence so the time zones are a presence so the time zones are a challenge but absolutely we are open to challenge but absolutely we are open to challenge but absolutely we are open to talking and you know willing to fund talking and you know willing to fund talking and you know willing to fund companies and now i can't guarantee that companies and now i can't guarantee that companies and now i can't guarantee that we won't ask you to reincorporate in the we won't ask you to reincorporate in the we won't ask you to reincorporate in the u.s at this point because we just u.s at this point because we just u.s at this point because we just haven't got there yet so our plan haven't got there yet so our plan haven't got there yet so our plan currently is that within the next year currently is that within the next year currently is that within the next year or so that we start executing on tiny or so that we start executing on tiny or so that we start executing on tiny sea day pack sea day pack sea day pack but for now if you want to be part of but for now if you want to be part of but for now if you want to be part of tiny seed you should send an application tiny seed you should send an application tiny seed you should send an application through through through and we can have a conversation with you and we can have a conversation with you and we can have a conversation with you yeah yeah yeah all right next question zach from all right next question zach from all right next question zach from youtube he says youtube he says youtube he says when you say quote we do do not fund when you say quote we do do not fund when you say quote we do do not fund founders from country x does it mean the founders from country x does it mean the founders from country x does it mean the company is incorporated in x or the company is incorporated in x or the company is incorporated in x or the founder themselves i'm asking this founder themselves i'm asking this founder themselves i'm asking this because i'm interested in being a because i'm interested in being a because i'm interested in being a digital nomad and also that there are digital nomad and also that there are digital nomad and also that there are ways to open a company in multiple ways to open a company in multiple ways to open a company in multiple european countries without being a european countries without being a european countries without being a resident there resident there resident there so what do you think sir is it founder so what do you think sir is it founder so what do you think sir is it founder residence or is it the location of the residence or is it the location of the residence or is it the location of the corporate entity it's the location of corporate entity it's the location of corporate entity it's the location of the corporate entity it's really the uh the corporate entity it's really the uh the corporate entity it's really the uh the the the challenge um that's the uh you know like challenge um that's the uh you know like challenge um that's the uh you know like rob was saying it it might be legally

rob was saying it it might be legally rob was saying it it might be legally financially difficult for us but in financially difficult for us but in financially difficult for us but in terms of your location um i think the terms of your location um i think the terms of your location um i think the question question question what's the question they mentioned there what's the question they mentioned there what's the question they mentioned there in europe if you're in you know europe in europe if you're in you know europe in europe if you're in you know europe you're you're great um you know you'll you're you're great um you know you'll you're you're great um you know you'll be in our timezone range so be in our timezone range so be in our timezone range so you'll be uh you'll be perfect and then you'll be uh you'll be perfect and then you'll be uh you'll be perfect and then uh in terms of your corporation like i uh in terms of your corporation like i uh in terms of your corporation like i said once we uh jump on a call with you said once we uh jump on a call with you said once we uh jump on a call with you if there's any issues we can we can talk if there's any issues we can we can talk if there's any issues we can we can talk about it on a case cut by case basis and about it on a case cut by case basis and about it on a case cut by case basis and uh and and you know try to come up with uh and and you know try to come up with uh and and you know try to come up with some solutions but definitely not not to some solutions but definitely not not to some solutions but definitely not not to worry about where you are um i'd say the worry about where you are um i'd say the worry about where you are um i'd say the only caveat is that you're obviously only caveat is that you're obviously only caveat is that you're obviously like rob said you're outside of those like rob said you're outside of those like rob said you're outside of those time zones um you're still welcome to time zones um you're still welcome to time zones um you're still welcome to apply but apply but apply but uh just be aware that you might have to uh just be aware that you might have to uh just be aware that you might have to play some time zone uh play some time zone uh play some time zone uh uh uh uh setups on being available for calls yeah setups on being available for calls yeah setups on being available for calls yeah yeah actually i realized i believe in yeah actually i realized i believe in yeah actually i realized i believe in batch three our spring batch we have batch three our spring batch we have batch three our spring batch we have someone from australia and our company someone from australia and our company someone from australia and our company and then and they're located there and and then and they're located there and and then and they're located there and then we have then we have then we have we have folks in the middle east we have we have folks in the middle east we have we have folks in the middle east we have two or three in the middle east in the two or three in the middle east in the two or three in the middle east in the last couple batches and we have a couple last couple batches and we have a couple last couple batches and we have a couple people one or two in asia right now in people one or two in asia right now in people one or two in asia right now in participating in tiny sedan yeah i was participating in tiny sedan yeah i was participating in tiny sedan yeah i was taught did a call with one founder the taught did a call with one founder the taught did a call with one founder the other day and he said it was midnight other day and he said it was midnight other day and he said it was midnight his time and he said but i just work his time and he said but i just work his time and he said but i just work until three or four in the morning until three or four in the morning until three or four in the morning that's just my you know my uh schedule that's just my you know my uh schedule that's just my you know my uh schedule and so you know he makes it work founder and so you know he makes it work founder and so you know he makes it work founder location is not only relevant to um location is not only relevant to um location is not only relevant to um to time zones really it's we've we've to time zones really it's we've we've to time zones really it's we've we've had we've also had folks relocate like had we've also had folks relocate like had we've also had folks relocate like we have a couple now we have a couple now we have a couple now who run a company and they're in germany who run a company and they're in germany who run a company and they're in germany and they're going to like move to the us and they're going to like move to the us and they're going to like move to the us and it but it doesn't matter because as and it but it doesn't matter because as and it but it doesn't matter because as long as the entity stays you know the

long as the entity stays you know the long as the entity stays you know the same that's really the the important same that's really the the important same that's really the the important thing yep thing yep thing yep and how about we have a question about and how about we have a question about and how about we have a question about minimum qualifications minimum qualifications minimum qualifications that's a good question yeah like what that's a good question yeah like what that's a good question yeah like what are the minimum qualifications for me to are the minimum qualifications for me to are the minimum qualifications for me to apply uh or get accepted into tiny seed apply uh or get accepted into tiny seed apply uh or get accepted into tiny seed and if you're interested in applying and if you're interested in applying and if you're interested in applying tinyseed.com tinyseed.com tinyseed.com apply apply apply yeah yeah yeah and the big the big minimum requirement and the big the big minimum requirement and the big the big minimum requirement i would say is a i would say is a i would say is a 500.00 mrr um 500.00 mrr um 500.00 mrr um that's that's really what we uh we asked that's that's really what we uh we asked that's that's really what we uh we asked if your if your if your uh uh uh pre-revenue um i would go ahead and hold pre-revenue um i would go ahead and hold pre-revenue um i would go ahead and hold off for now uh the beautiful thing about off for now uh the beautiful thing about off for now uh the beautiful thing about tiny seed though is that we'll have tiny seed though is that we'll have tiny seed though is that we'll have another batch down the road and that'll another batch down the road and that'll another batch down the road and that'll be a good chance for you to build up be a good chance for you to build up be a good chance for you to build up that initial customer base but really that initial customer base but really that initial customer base but really our program works best if you already our program works best if you already our program works best if you already have at least 500 mrr at least 500 mrr and that way we can aim to help you and that way we can aim to help you and that way we can aim to help you scale so it doesn't mean you're not scale so it doesn't mean you're not scale so it doesn't mean you're not great or you're not going to get there great or you're not going to get there great or you're not going to get there just just wait until the next round and just just wait until the next round and just just wait until the next round and we'll be excited to talk with you then we'll be excited to talk with you then we'll be excited to talk with you then another question another question another question it says i am based in the uk personally it says i am based in the uk personally it says i am based in the uk personally but i have a usc corp which location but i have a usc corp which location but i have a usc corp which location would be best would be best would be best in your opinion would i qualify for the in your opinion would i qualify for the in your opinion would i qualify for the uk based fund or does it not matter uk based fund or does it not matter uk based fund or does it not matter i would say let me know you have opinion i would say let me know you have opinion i would say let me know you have opinion rob i would say apply for tiny seed rob i would say apply for tiny seed rob i would say apply for tiny seed europe europe europe because because because it's fine that you're incorporated in it's fine that you're incorporated in it's fine that you're incorporated in the u.s to be part of the europe fund the u.s to be part of the europe fund the u.s to be part of the europe fund but it'll be a lot more beneficial to but it'll be a lot more beneficial to but it'll be a lot more beneficial to you personally in terms of being able

you personally in terms of being able you personally in terms of being able like i said to like i said to like i said to jump on those calls at a reasonable time jump on those calls at a reasonable time jump on those calls at a reasonable time zone and participate in our founder zone and participate in our founder zone and participate in our founder retreats so retreats so retreats so it'll be a better experience for you it'll be a better experience for you it'll be a better experience for you overall overall overall being in europe and being in europe and being in europe and and we are able to and we are able to and we are able to of course accept anyone with a u.s of course accept anyone with a u.s of course accept anyone with a u.s incorporation into the europe fund yep i incorporation into the europe fund yep i incorporation into the europe fund yep i i think i would agree you you could go i think i would agree you you could go i think i would agree you you could go either way it doesn't matter so much but either way it doesn't matter so much but either way it doesn't matter so much but the time zone and the retreats i think the time zone and the retreats i think the time zone and the retreats i think is the big thing and once you're in a is the big thing and once you're in a is the big thing and once you're in a mastermind with other founders you're mastermind with other founders you're mastermind with other founders you're going to want to meet them in person going to want to meet them in person going to want to meet them in person because it's just it's just too cool you because it's just it's just too cool you because it's just it's just too cool you know to get together and that will be know to get together and that will be know to get together and that will be more of a challenge if if all your folks more of a challenge if if all your folks more of a challenge if if all your folks are in the americas but you could um you are in the americas but you could um you are in the americas but you could um you know address obviously these are all know address obviously these are all know address obviously these are all things that you could overcome things that you could overcome things that you could overcome this is a question we got the other day this is a question we got the other day this is a question we got the other day and we're getting it again it's do uk and we're getting it again it's do uk and we're getting it again it's do uk companies need to be seis or eis companies need to be seis or eis companies need to be seis or eis registered registered registered and that involves and that involves and that involves a for folks who don't know if you're not a for folks who don't know if you're not a for folks who don't know if you're not in the uk it's a huge tax break that in the uk it's a huge tax break that in the uk it's a huge tax break that the uk government gives to angel the uk government gives to angel the uk government gives to angel investors where they get a big chunk of investors where they get a big chunk of investors where they get a big chunk of their investment back as a tax credit their investment back as a tax credit their investment back as a tax credit like the year they make the investment i like the year they make the investment i like the year they make the investment i really really wish the u.s had this really really wish the u.s had this really really wish the u.s had this because this would be amazing so because this would be amazing so because this would be amazing so uh the answer is uh the answer is uh the answer is i i i i'm almost sure no you don't need to be i'm almost sure no you don't need to be i'm almost sure no you don't need to be registered because i don't believe we're registered because i don't believe we're registered because i don't believe we're going to be able to take advantage of going to be able to take advantage of going to be able to take advantage of this because in order to take advantage this because in order to take advantage this because in order to take advantage of seis or eis you need a fund based in of seis or eis you need a fund based in of seis or eis you need a fund based in the uk and our fund will not you know at the uk and our fund will not you know at the uk and our fund will not you know at current the current plan is it will not current the current plan is it will not current the current plan is it will not reside there so it's i'm pretty sure reside there so it's i'm pretty sure reside there so it's i'm pretty sure it's kind of irrelevant um so which is

it's kind of irrelevant um so which is it's kind of irrelevant um so which is good for you i mean it means that good for you i mean it means that good for you i mean it means that you don't have to go through you know you don't have to go through you know you don't have to go through you know the hassle of doing that if you want to the hassle of doing that if you want to the hassle of doing that if you want to apply apply apply so i'm curious a little inside baseball so i'm curious a little inside baseball so i'm curious a little inside baseball alex alex alex this is your first time being on this this is your first time being on this this is your first time being on this this side of the screen right this side this side of the screen right this side this side of the screen right this side of the uh of the uh of the uh of the curtain in terms of of the curtain in terms of of the curtain in terms of uh uh uh tiny seat applicants tiny seat applicants tiny seat applicants yes yes yes and and and i think folks see it from the outside i think folks see it from the outside i think folks see it from the outside and probably wonder what that process is and probably wonder what that process is and probably wonder what that process is like but you started with this a couple like but you started with this a couple like but you started with this a couple months ago and you're seeing the months ago and you're seeing the months ago and you're seeing the applicants come in applicants come in applicants come in how is the process been free and you're how is the process been free and you're how is the process been free and you're having to you know review applications having to you know review applications having to you know review applications and and rate them you're one of the and and rate them you're one of the and and rate them you're one of the uh for people rating these applications uh for people rating these applications uh for people rating these applications like how has that been for you what do like how has that been for you what do like how has that been for you what do you think you think you think yeah you know it's an interesting yeah you know it's an interesting yeah you know it's an interesting experience i'd say um especially like experience i'd say um especially like experience i'd say um especially like you said coming in new uh compared to you said coming in new uh compared to you said coming in new uh compared to yourself tracy and a r with a few years yourself tracy and a r with a few years yourself tracy and a r with a few years of of of reviewing these applications it's really reviewing these applications it's really reviewing these applications it's really cool on one side to be able to see all cool on one side to be able to see all cool on one side to be able to see all the applications learn more about their the applications learn more about their the applications learn more about their businesses and and see the caliber businesses and and see the caliber businesses and and see the caliber of of of what some of these businesses are doing what some of these businesses are doing what some of these businesses are doing it's really exciting to read their it's really exciting to read their it's really exciting to read their stories stories stories i'd say sometimes it's a bit uh i'd say sometimes it's a bit uh i'd say sometimes it's a bit uh there's a pressure there's a pressure there's a pressure i think the first run for me i think the first run for me i think the first run for me i i i i i spend a lot of time on personally on i i spend a lot of time on personally on i i spend a lot of time on personally on the applications that i'm reviewing um the applications that i'm reviewing um the applications that i'm reviewing um i think especially this first round i'm i think especially this first round i'm i think especially this first round i'm trying to get into the flow and really trying to get into the flow and really trying to get into the flow and really make sure that i'm giving every make sure that i'm giving every make sure that i'm giving every application it's do application it's do application it's do do attention um so

do attention um so do attention um so uh i read into things a lot i read in uh i read into things a lot i read in uh i read into things a lot i read in through all the details a lot um through all the details a lot um through all the details a lot um i spent maybe more time than i should on i spent maybe more time than i should on i spent maybe more time than i should on some of the applications but um i do i some of the applications but um i do i some of the applications but um i do i care a lot of making sure that i'm care a lot of making sure that i'm care a lot of making sure that i'm getting the full story uh so there's a getting the full story uh so there's a getting the full story uh so there's a little bit pressure making sure that i'm little bit pressure making sure that i'm little bit pressure making sure that i'm you know as i'm getting my my feet under you know as i'm getting my my feet under you know as i'm getting my my feet under me this this first year to uh me this this first year to uh me this this first year to uh uh that i'm spending more time um kind uh that i'm spending more time um kind uh that i'm spending more time um kind of of of thinking about each of the applicants thinking about each of the applicants thinking about each of the applicants and informing my and informing my and informing my uh opinion i think you said on you know uh opinion i think you said on you know uh opinion i think you said on you know i think it's true on our live q a about i think it's true on our live q a about i think it's true on our live q a about a week and a half ago everybody a week and a half ago everybody a week and a half ago everybody has has has uh a little bit of a different approach uh a little bit of a different approach uh a little bit of a different approach you know we're all individuals um that's you know we're all individuals um that's you know we're all individuals um that's why we have multiple people check the why we have multiple people check the why we have multiple people check the application so application so application so i'm doing a lot of internal thinking i'm doing a lot of internal thinking i'm doing a lot of internal thinking right now on like what is my approach as right now on like what is my approach as right now on like what is my approach as i'm going through and reading these i'm going through and reading these i'm going through and reading these stories what are the what are what are stories what are the what are what are stories what are the what are what are the patterns i'm seeing um the patterns i'm seeing um the patterns i'm seeing um and how does that compare to the rest of and how does that compare to the rest of and how does that compare to the rest of the team so the team so the team so it's a really cool experience in the it's a really cool experience in the it's a really cool experience in the sense that i'm learning a lot and um sense that i'm learning a lot and um sense that i'm learning a lot and um and diving in fast yeah so we call that and diving in fast yeah so we call that and diving in fast yeah so we call that baptism by fire baptism by fire baptism by fire happens real quick a couple months in we happens real quick a couple months in we happens real quick a couple months in we have some some good questions coming in have some some good questions coming in have some some good questions coming in from audience members and if you want to from audience members and if you want to from audience members and if you want to ask your question a reminder pipe pop it ask your question a reminder pipe pop it ask your question a reminder pipe pop it into the youtube chat or microcomp on into the youtube chat or microcomp on into the youtube chat or microcomp on air air air um channel in microcom connect um channel in microcom connect um channel in microcom connect question would tiny seed consider question would tiny seed consider question would tiny seed consider businesses with annual pricing businesses with annual pricing businesses with annual pricing only with an annual pricing model this only with an annual pricing model this only with an annual pricing model this is from r on youtube is from r on youtube is from r on youtube yes our i think uh i think that's a

yes our i think uh i think that's a yes our i think uh i think that's a great uh question but it's also a great uh question but it's also a great uh question but it's also a great um great um great um uh what am i trying to say uh what am i trying to say uh what am i trying to say advantage i mean annual pricing under advantage i mean annual pricing under advantage i mean annual pricing under rob we said this before it's a it's a rob we said this before it's a it's a rob we said this before it's a it's a positive in a lot of ways so um get your positive in a lot of ways so um get your positive in a lot of ways so um get your cash up front yep yeah uh so absolutely cash up front yep yeah uh so absolutely cash up front yep yeah uh so absolutely that's uh your your pricing model that's uh your your pricing model that's uh your your pricing model we'd uh we'd love to see your we'd uh we'd love to see your we'd uh we'd love to see your application it's a it's a good thing application it's a it's a good thing application it's a it's a good thing absolutely absolutely absolutely and filippo filippo on youtube how much and filippo filippo on youtube how much and filippo filippo on youtube how much equity should a founder expect to leave equity should a founder expect to leave equity should a founder expect to leave on the table with tiny seed well i don't on the table with tiny seed well i don't on the table with tiny seed well i don't think you're leaving anything on the think you're leaving anything on the think you're leaving anything on the table but you're you're selling you're table but you're you're selling you're table but you're you're selling you're selling your equity you're taking selling your equity you're taking selling your equity you're taking investment exchange away do you have a investment exchange away do you have a investment exchange away do you have a standard deal or is it case by case standard deal or is it case by case standard deal or is it case by case the terms are standard the terms are standard the terms are standard 120 000 u.s for between 10 and 12 120 000 u.s for between 10 and 12 120 000 u.s for between 10 and 12 of your company of your company of your company that's for one founder then for the that's for one founder then for the that's for one founder then for the second founder it's an additional 60 000 second founder it's an additional 60 000 second founder it's an additional 60 000 so that's 180 for the same percentage so that's 180 for the same percentage so that's 180 for the same percentage and if you have a third founder it's and if you have a third founder it's and if you have a third founder it's 220. 220. 220. and if you have more than that we don't and if you have more than that we don't and if you have more than that we don't don't don't start a company with four don't don't start a company with four don't don't start a company with four founders you don't need to do a mostly founders you don't need to do a mostly founders you don't need to do a mostly bootstrap with four founders but um yeah bootstrap with four founders but um yeah bootstrap with four founders but um yeah so so those are the numbers and we have so so those are the numbers and we have so so those are the numbers and we have funded companies from funded companies from funded companies from uh you know uh you know uh you know five to eight hundred dollars a month in five to eight hundred dollars a month in five to eight hundred dollars a month in mrr up and up to a hundred thousand mrr mrr up and up to a hundred thousand mrr mrr up and up to a hundred thousand mrr and um if you're and um if you're and um if you're you know interested that's it's great if you know interested that's it's great if you know interested that's it's great if you feel like you're too far along let's you feel like you're too far along let's you feel like you're too far along let's say you're doing 80k mrr right now and say you're doing 80k mrr right now and say you're doing 80k mrr right now and you're like i don't know these terms you're like i don't know these terms you're like i don't know these terms work work work a couple things you could consider you

a couple things you could consider you a couple things you could consider you could apply and let's chat could apply and let's chat could apply and let's chat because you're obviously you know really because you're obviously you know really because you're obviously you know really far along the other thing is we have a far along the other thing is we have a far along the other thing is we have a tiny seed syndicate and you can head to tiny seed syndicate and you can head to tiny seed syndicate and you can head to tinysuit.com tinysuit.com tinysuit.com syndicate overview i believe or just syndicate overview i believe or just syndicate overview i believe or just head to the you know head to the dynasty head to the you know head to the dynasty head to the you know head to the dynasty website website website and and and that allows us to fund companies that that allows us to fund companies that that allows us to fund companies that may not be an exact fit for the may not be an exact fit for the may not be an exact fit for the accelerator model accelerator model accelerator model zack asks how many founders do you zack asks how many founders do you zack asks how many founders do you accept per batch accept per batch accept per batch in tiny seed emea versus tiny seed u.s in tiny seed emea versus tiny seed u.s in tiny seed emea versus tiny seed u.s i think we're that's kind of a i think we're that's kind of a i think we're that's kind of a jump in here i'm sticking out turn but jump in here i'm sticking out turn but jump in here i'm sticking out turn but uh i feel like uh you know it's we don't uh i feel like uh you know it's we don't uh i feel like uh you know it's we don't have a we do have a limit i will say have a we do have a limit i will say have a we do have a limit i will say that we that we that we just like tiny seed us we have a limit just like tiny seed us we have a limit just like tiny seed us we have a limit on how many founders we can fit in but on how many founders we can fit in but on how many founders we can fit in but um um um we're not uh tidy seed emu mia does not we're not uh tidy seed emu mia does not we're not uh tidy seed emu mia does not necessarily have less or more founders necessarily have less or more founders necessarily have less or more founders than tiny seed us i think in general than tiny seed us i think in general than tiny seed us i think in general we're aiming for somewhere in we're aiming for somewhere in we're aiming for somewhere in a max of uh a max of uh a max of uh what would you say like in the 15 18 what would you say like in the 15 18 what would you say like in the 15 18 so here's what i think yes we we have 10 so here's what i think yes we we have 10 so here's what i think yes we we have 10 million dollars to invest in companies million dollars to invest in companies million dollars to invest in companies so it's we can invest in approximately so it's we can invest in approximately so it's we can invest in approximately 50 companies over the next two to three 50 companies over the next two to three 50 companies over the next two to three years probably more than like three years probably more than like three years probably more than like three and in the us uh the americas we have and in the us uh the americas we have and in the us uh the americas we have tended to tended to tended to do between 15 and 20 per batch because a do between 15 and 20 per batch because a do between 15 and 20 per batch because a we found that's a good size it's not too we found that's a good size it's not too we found that's a good size it's not too big not too small and b big not too small and b big not too small and b that's where we see the companies maybe

that's where we see the companies maybe that's where we see the companies maybe start those are the really good start those are the really good start those are the really good companies that we want to fund at that companies that we want to fund at that companies that we want to fund at that moment and in fact a lot of the folks moment and in fact a lot of the folks moment and in fact a lot of the folks who make it to almost you know who are who make it to almost you know who are who make it to almost you know who are the 21st or 22nd companies they're just the 21st or 22nd companies they're just the 21st or 22nd companies they're just not far enough along and we find that by not far enough along and we find that by not far enough along and we find that by the next application the next application the next application process they are far enough along we process they are far enough along we process they are far enough along we funded a lot of companies who've applied funded a lot of companies who've applied funded a lot of companies who've applied twice and several companies who've twice and several companies who've twice and several companies who've applied three times so applied three times so applied three times so that's our logic there so 15 to 20 in in that's our logic there so 15 to 20 in in that's our logic there so 15 to 20 in in america's we could do that in emea if we america's we could do that in emea if we america's we could do that in emea if we get that many quality applicants we just get that many quality applicants we just get that many quality applicants we just don't know yet it's going to depend and don't know yet it's going to depend and don't know yet it's going to depend and in fact our first u.s batch or america i in fact our first u.s batch or america i in fact our first u.s batch or america i keep saying u.s our first america's keep saying u.s our first america's keep saying u.s our first america's batch batch batch was 10 companies and so i would not be was 10 companies and so i would not be was 10 companies and so i would not be surprised if our first emea batch is surprised if our first emea batch is surprised if our first emea batch is around 10. around 10. around 10. as we get our feed under us as we get as we get our feed under us as we get as we get our feed under us as we get the program off the ground you know it the program off the ground you know it the program off the ground you know it just makes it a little a little easier just makes it a little a little easier just makes it a little a little easier with that said with that said with that said if there's if we find 15 amazing if there's if we find 15 amazing if there's if we find 15 amazing companies that have applied companies that have applied companies that have applied i'm going to be i'm going to want to i'm going to be i'm going to want to i'm going to be i'm going to want to fund them you know i'm going to want to fund them you know i'm going to want to fund them you know i'm going to want to support them help them grow mentor them support them help them grow mentor them support them help them grow mentor them advise them give them the community that advise them give them the community that advise them give them the community that they need they need they need because that's just that's our mission because that's just that's our mission because that's just that's our mission right it's still like you know multiply right it's still like you know multiply right it's still like you know multiply the number of the number of the number of independent self-sustaining sas independent self-sustaining sas independent self-sustaining sas companies in the world so companies in the world so companies in the world so yeah that's what it'll be and then we'll yeah that's what it'll be and then we'll yeah that's what it'll be and then we'll be right now the plan is to run another be right now the plan is to run another be right now the plan is to run another application process application process application process in a year in a year in a year for tinycedemia but for tinycedemia but for tinycedemia but i think after that we will be making a i think after that we will be making a i think after that we will be making a decision about whether we want to go decision about whether we want to go decision about whether we want to go every six months with the you know emea every six months with the you know emea every six months with the you know emea batch but the email accelerator as well batch but the email accelerator as well batch but the email accelerator as well or if we stick to once a year just or if we stick to once a year just or if we stick to once a year just depends on what kind of traction we see depends on what kind of traction we see depends on what kind of traction we see and and and how many folks come in

yeah i'm curious if anyone else has yeah i'm curious if anyone else has questions because alex and i can riff on questions because alex and i can riff on questions because alex and i can riff on this all day guarantee we'll just switch this all day guarantee we'll just switch this all day guarantee we'll just switch to justice to justice to justice going back and forth going back and forth going back and forth yep if there aren't any additional yep if there aren't any additional yep if there aren't any additional questions questions questions i feel like we could uh we've talked i feel like we could uh we've talked i feel like we could uh we've talked about this quite a bit we did our one about this quite a bit we did our one about this quite a bit we did our one hour q a what last week when we kicked hour q a what last week when we kicked hour q a what last week when we kicked off the uh off the uh off the uh the batch applications um so if folks the batch applications um so if folks the batch applications um so if folks want additional information they can want additional information they can want additional information they can obviously obviously obviously reach out to hello reach out to hello reach out to hello tinyseed.com tinyseed.com tinyseed.com and i think you and tracy monitor that and i think you and tracy monitor that and i think you and tracy monitor that and of course our tinycea.com faq has a and of course our tinycea.com faq has a and of course our tinycea.com faq has a lot a lot of answers it truly is the lot a lot of answers it truly is the lot a lot of answers it truly is the frequently a list of frequently asked frequently a list of frequently asked frequently a list of frequently asked questions and answers that we've questions and answers that we've questions and answers that we've received over the past three years received over the past three years received over the past three years funding funding funding just about 60 companies and you know if just about 60 companies and you know if just about 60 companies and you know if you think about it we're we're 59 you think about it we're we're 59 you think about it we're we're 59 companies right now companies right now companies right now and and and within within within 60 days we will 60 days we will 60 days we will be be be approaching approaching approaching in theory approaching 90 i mean it would in theory approaching 90 i mean it would in theory approaching 90 i mean it would be more than 80 80 companies it's be more than 80 80 companies it's be more than 80 80 companies it's it's getting there it's a real thing it's getting there it's a real thing it's getting there it's a real thing yeah yeah yeah zach says thanks for the answers guys zach says thanks for the answers guys zach says thanks for the answers guys i've been following microconfident tiny i've been following microconfident tiny i've been following microconfident tiny seed for a while now as a resident of seed for a while now as a resident of seed for a while now as a resident of anemia country it felt like a spectator anemia country it felt like a spectator anemia country it felt like a spectator sport but now it's more engaging sport but now it's more engaging sport but now it's more engaging applying soon awesome applying soon awesome applying soon awesome that's good to hear yeah yeah really is that's good to hear yeah yeah really is that's good to hear yeah yeah really is and that's this is by popular demand you and that's this is by popular demand you and that's this is by popular demand you know it's like you build a startup which know it's like you build a startup which know it's like you build a startup which tiny seed is just a startup with venture tiny seed is just a startup with venture tiny seed is just a startup with venture funds um you know funds to invest in funds um you know funds to invest in funds um you know funds to invest in other startups but you build it and you other startups but you build it and you other startups but you build it and you don't know how many people it will don't know how many people it will don't know how many people it will resonate with you don't know if the resonate with you don't know if the resonate with you don't know if the market needs there you just have a gut market needs there you just have a gut market needs there you just have a gut feel you have some conversations and so

feel you have some conversations and so feel you have some conversations and so to to have had so many comments like to to have had so many comments like to to have had so many comments like that that that and to have a lot of requests over the and to have a lot of requests over the and to have a lot of requests over the years that we've been doing it years that we've been doing it years that we've been doing it to adapt the program like that's that's to adapt the program like that's that's to adapt the program like that's that's why we're doing this it's not something why we're doing this it's not something why we're doing this it's not something we came up with in a smoky smoke-filled we came up with in a smoky smoke-filled we came up with in a smoky smoke-filled boardroom and said oh let's let's do boardroom and said oh let's let's do boardroom and said oh let's let's do this it's like this is definitely a this it's like this is definitely a this it's like this is definitely a market need that we've evaluated market need that we've evaluated market need that we've evaluated so so so alex mcquaid sir thanks so much for alex mcquaid sir thanks so much for alex mcquaid sir thanks so much for joining me on the show tinyc.com apply joining me on the show tinyc.com apply joining me on the show tinyc.com apply if folks want to check it out and what's if folks want to check it out and what's if folks want to check it out and what's your twitter handle i always call your twitter handle i always call your twitter handle i always call people's twitter handles out it's out at people's twitter handles out it's out at people's twitter handles out it's out at alex mcquaid alex mcquaid alex mcquaid pretty straightforward easy to spell all pretty straightforward easy to spell all pretty straightforward easy to spell all right thanks so much for joining me man right thanks so much for joining me man right thanks so much for joining me man and as we roll out and as we roll out and as we roll out uh again tiny state applications they're uh again tiny state applications they're uh again tiny state applications they're open until sunday and as always i want open until sunday and as always i want open until sunday and as always i want to thank hay and stripe for being our to thank hay and stripe for being our to thank hay and stripe for being our headline partners headline partners headline partners last year the year before and again in last year the year before and again in last year the year before and again in 2022 we really appreciate their support 2022 we really appreciate their support 2022 we really appreciate their support of independent sas founders and of of independent sas founders and of of independent sas founders and of microconf if you're interested in microconf if you're interested in microconf if you're interested in sponsoring any of our microconf events sponsoring any of our microconf events sponsoring any of our microconf events or any anything we offer please don't or any anything we offer please don't or any anything we offer please don't hesitate to reach out to hesitate to reach out to hesitate to reach out to sponsors at microconf.com sponsors at microconf.com sponsors at microconf.com that's it for today see you again in two that's it for today see you again in two that's it for today see you again in two weeks