Covetousness: The Sin Behind the Sin [The Deep Dish - Ep. 22]

It was almost the exposure of getting It was almost the exposure of getting the life I thought I wanted that made me the life I thought I wanted that made me the life I thought I wanted that made me realize I needed a desperate heart realize I needed a desperate heart realize I needed a desperate heart change, not a circumstance change. change, not a circumstance change. change, not a circumstance change. >> I love it when Jackie lives. >> I love it when Jackie lives. >> I love it when Jackie lives. >> I know. I know. I know. >> I know. I know. I know. >> I know. I know. I know. >> It's highlighted. It's highlighted in my >> It's highlighted. It's highlighted in my >> It's highlighted. It's highlighted in my phone. I I pulled it up. phone. I I pulled it up. phone. I I pulled it up. [Music] Hi friends, welcome to the Deep Dish, a Hi friends, welcome to the Deep Dish, a podcast from the Gospel Coalition where podcast from the Gospel Coalition where podcast from the Gospel Coalition where we love having deep conversations about we love having deep conversations about we love having deep conversations about deep truths. I'm Melissa Krueger and I'm deep truths. I'm Melissa Krueger and I'm deep truths. I'm Melissa Krueger and I'm here with my co-host Courtney Doctor and here with my co-host Courtney Doctor and here with my co-host Courtney Doctor and I'm here with my former I hate saying I'm here with my former I hate saying I'm here with my former I hate saying former um co-host of Let's Talk, Jackie former um co-host of Let's Talk, Jackie former um co-host of Let's Talk, Jackie Hill Perry. Um Jackie, it's great to Hill Perry. Um Jackie, it's great to Hill Perry. Um Jackie, it's great to have you here. Thanks for coming. have you here. Thanks for coming. have you here. Thanks for coming. >> Y'all, it's been a while. Been a minute. >> Y'all, it's been a while. Been a minute. >> Y'all, it's been a while. Been a minute. Been a month of Sundays as old. Been a month of Sundays as old. Been a month of Sundays as old. >> Every time we did podcast, Jackie, you >> Every time we did podcast, Jackie, you >> Every time we did podcast, Jackie, you were pregnant. were pregnant. were pregnant. >> It's true. There was a there was there >> It's true. There was a there was there >> It's true. There was a there was there was a there was a span of time where I was a there was a span of time where I was a there was a span of time where I me and Jasmine where we just showed up me and Jasmine where we just showed up me and Jasmine where we just showed up with big bellies.

with big bellies. with big bellies. >> Huh. What could that mean that we're >> Huh. What could that mean that we're >> Huh. What could that mean that we're doing a podcast now? I don't know. doing a podcast now? I don't know. doing a podcast now? I don't know. >> No, I that's that that season is long >> No, I that's that that season is long >> No, I that's that that season is long gone. I'm sorry. I I'm pregnant with a gone. I'm sorry. I I'm pregnant with a gone. I'm sorry. I I'm pregnant with a purpose at this point. purpose at this point. purpose at this point. >> I meant for me or Melissa, Jackie. Oh, >> I meant for me or Melissa, Jackie. Oh, >> I meant for me or Melissa, Jackie. Oh, >> anything is possible. >> anything is possible. >> anything is possible. >> That that takes on a biblical need. >> That that takes on a biblical need. >> That that takes on a biblical need. Miraculous. Miraculous. Miraculous. >> Exactly. Uh Jackie, we are so glad that >> Exactly. Uh Jackie, we are so glad that >> Exactly. Uh Jackie, we are so glad that you're here. It's so fun to have you on. you're here. It's so fun to have you on. you're here. It's so fun to have you on. And today we're going to be talking And today we're going to be talking And today we're going to be talking about just a little light thing that about just a little light thing that about just a little light thing that we've heard other people struggle with, we've heard other people struggle with, we've heard other people struggle with, uh covetousness. And um Melissa, we know uh covetousness. And um Melissa, we know uh covetousness. And um Melissa, we know that you wrote a great book. I even that you wrote a great book. I even that you wrote a great book. I even pulled it off my shelf from back in the pulled it off my shelf from back in the pulled it off my shelf from back in the day day day >> because this was uh when you and I were >> because this was uh when you and I were >> because this was uh when you and I were first becoming friends. I did this with first becoming friends. I did this with first becoming friends. I did this with a group of women at the church where I a group of women at the church where I a group of women at the church where I was on staff, but the envy of Eve. And was on staff, but the envy of Eve. And was on staff, but the envy of Eve. And so since you wrote the book on it, can so since you wrote the book on it, can so since you wrote the book on it, can you start us off with a good definition you start us off with a good definition you start us off with a good definition of what covetousness actually is? What of what covetousness actually is? What of what covetousness actually is? What are we what do we mean when we say are we what do we mean when we say are we what do we mean when we say coveting?

coveting? coveting? >> Yeah, that's a good that's a good >> Yeah, that's a good that's a good >> Yeah, that's a good that's a good question. I and and this is going to question. I and and this is going to question. I and and this is going to sound wordy what I'm going to say so sound wordy what I'm going to say so sound wordy what I'm going to say so I'll break it down but but I think I I'll break it down but but I think I I'll break it down but but I think I think it's helpful. It's an inordinate think it's helpful. It's an inordinate think it's helpful. It's an inordinate or culpable desire to possess often that or culpable desire to possess often that or culpable desire to possess often that which belongs to another. That was my which belongs to another. That was my which belongs to another. That was my kind of working definition. And let me kind of working definition. And let me kind of working definition. And let me define two of the other words. define two of the other words. define two of the other words. Inordinate just means the depth of our Inordinate just means the depth of our Inordinate just means the depth of our desire has grown so much that basically desire has grown so much that basically desire has grown so much that basically it's resulting in sin in our life in it's resulting in sin in our life in it's resulting in sin in our life in some way. So like I'm perpetually some way. So like I'm perpetually some way. So like I'm perpetually discontent because I don't have what I discontent because I don't have what I discontent because I don't have what I want. Um culpable desire I actually that want. Um culpable desire I actually that want. Um culpable desire I actually that that term refers to wanting something that term refers to wanting something that term refers to wanting something that we know is prohibited us. So you that we know is prohibited us. So you that we know is prohibited us. So you know I mean when Eve wanted that one know I mean when Eve wanted that one know I mean when Eve wanted that one fruit that she was told not to have. It fruit that she was told not to have. It fruit that she was told not to have. It wasn't just the depth of her desire. She wasn't just the depth of her desire. She wasn't just the depth of her desire. She was actually desiring a wrong thing that was actually desiring a wrong thing that was actually desiring a wrong thing that had been proh prohibited. Um so that's had been proh prohibited. Um so that's had been proh prohibited. Um so that's kind of the working the working thing. kind of the working the working thing. kind of the working the working thing. So it's it's it's both the way we desire So it's it's it's both the way we desire So it's it's it's both the way we desire something and the what the object of our something and the what the object of our something and the what the object of our of our desire can I you know I think be of our desire can I you know I think be of our desire can I you know I think be this sin called covetousness. So let me this sin called covetousness. So let me this sin called covetousness. So let me ask you this though. Let's start it ask you this though. Let's start it ask you this though. Let's start it together and Jackie you can start us together and Jackie you can start us together and Jackie you can start us off. Why why do you guys think this is off. Why why do you guys think this is off. Why why do you guys think this is such a difficult sin pattern in the such a difficult sin pattern in the such a difficult sin pattern in the world today? Like when you it's it's world today? Like when you it's it's world today? Like when you it's it's interesting to me I wrote the envy of interesting to me I wrote the envy of interesting to me I wrote the envy of Eve before Instagram was a thing. write Eve before Instagram was a thing. write Eve before Instagram was a thing. write it really differently now.

it really differently now. it really differently now. >> I mean, we have eyes. Maybe that might >> I mean, we have eyes. Maybe that might >> I mean, we have eyes. Maybe that might be a part of it. I I think I I I'll say be a part of it. I I think I I I'll say be a part of it. I I think I I I'll say for me, one, I did not realize how much for me, one, I did not realize how much for me, one, I did not realize how much I struggled with it until recently. I struggled with it until recently. I struggled with it until recently. Honestly, Honestly, Honestly, >> what changed? >> what changed? >> what changed? I think I started to work through I just I think I started to work through I just I think I started to work through I just started to work through the idea of started to work through the idea of started to work through the idea of discontentment. Like I was just discontentment. Like I was just discontentment. Like I was just realizing that like I have a lot. I have realizing that like I have a lot. I have realizing that like I have a lot. I have a family. I have a husband. I have a family. I have a husband. I have a family. I have a husband. I have success. I have like I don't I don't success. I have like I don't I don't success. I have like I don't I don't have what people would think is a life have what people would think is a life have what people would think is a life where I'm lacking. But I do have a lot where I'm lacking. But I do have a lot where I'm lacking. But I do have a lot of lack internally, mentally, uh of lack internally, mentally, uh of lack internally, mentally, uh socially, relationally, right? like I do socially, relationally, right? like I do socially, relationally, right? like I do have a lot of places where there's loss have a lot of places where there's loss have a lot of places where there's loss that has created a lot of places where that has created a lot of places where that has created a lot of places where there's discontentment and so in me there's discontentment and so in me there's discontentment and so in me wanting to work through that I was like wanting to work through that I was like wanting to work through that I was like googling things about discontentment googling things about discontentment googling things about discontentment which led me to these things of the which led me to these things of the which led me to these things of the relation between discontentment and relation between discontentment and relation between discontentment and covetousness. I said huh there's a covetousness. I said huh there's a covetousness. I said huh there's a relationship between that and then I was relationship between that and then I was relationship between that and then I was like books about covetousness and then like books about covetousness and then like books about covetousness and then I'm like Melissa wrote a book I had not a I had not a clue. Automatic I had not a I had not a clue. Automatic purchase. Automatic purchase. So I purchase. Automatic purchase. So I purchase. Automatic purchase. So I started reading it and it was profound started reading it and it was profound started reading it and it was profound to me that this was at the root of so

to me that this was at the root of so to me that this was at the root of so many problems. many problems. many problems. I started tapping Preston at the on the I started tapping Preston at the on the I started tapping Preston at the on the shoulder. I'm like, do you realize that shoulder. I'm like, do you realize that shoulder. I'm like, do you realize that if we die to this, we die to so many if we die to this, we die to so many if we die to this, we die to so many others others others >> Yeah. So, >> Yeah. So, >> Yeah. So, >> I love that that it was, you know, >> I love that that it was, you know, >> I love that that it was, you know, discontentment that kind of revealed discontentment that kind of revealed discontentment that kind of revealed that it's it's actually the that it's it's actually the that it's it's actually the discontentment was the symptom. It was discontentment was the symptom. It was discontentment was the symptom. It was the sign. It wasn't the root. But that the sign. It wasn't the root. But that the sign. It wasn't the root. But that and even if we go back to Genesis 1, and even if we go back to Genesis 1, and even if we go back to Genesis 1, it's like the enemy bred discontentment it's like the enemy bred discontentment it's like the enemy bred discontentment in Eve first in Eve first in Eve first >> and then we see her desire and take and >> and then we see her desire and take and >> and then we see her desire and take and give and eat and all of the things that give and eat and all of the things that give and eat and all of the things that that she does as a result. But I'd never that she does as a result. But I'd never that she does as a result. But I'd never thought about the fact that the enemy thought about the fact that the enemy thought about the fact that the enemy was first sewing those seeds of was first sewing those seeds of was first sewing those seeds of discontentment. discontentment. discontentment. >> Um, and I would even say back to your >> Um, and I would even say back to your >> Um, and I would even say back to your question, Melissa, I'm not sure that question, Melissa, I'm not sure that question, Melissa, I'm not sure that it's a new I don't think it's any more it's a new I don't think it's any more it's a new I don't think it's any more difficult. I mean, if it's the first difficult. I mean, if it's the first difficult. I mean, if it's the first real sin that we see or the root of the real sin that we see or the root of the real sin that we see or the root of the first sin that we see, then I don't first sin that we see, then I don't first sin that we see, then I don't think it's new in this age in any way.

think it's new in this age in any way. think it's new in this age in any way. And like you said, Jackie, if we have And like you said, Jackie, if we have And like you said, Jackie, if we have eyes, I think a lot about um Psalm 16 eyes, I think a lot about um Psalm 16 eyes, I think a lot about um Psalm 16 and the and verse verse 5 says this, and and the and verse verse 5 says this, and and the and verse verse 5 says this, and it's been something that I've had to it's been something that I've had to it's been something that I've had to like wrestle down into my heart over the like wrestle down into my heart over the like wrestle down into my heart over the last decade, but it says David said, last decade, but it says David said, last decade, but it says David said, "The Lord is my chosen portion and my "The Lord is my chosen portion and my "The Lord is my chosen portion and my cup. He holds my lot." Then he says, cup. He holds my lot." Then he says, cup. He holds my lot." Then he says, "The lines." So these are boundary "The lines." So these are boundary "The lines." So these are boundary lines. And so it would have been talking lines. And so it would have been talking lines. And so it would have been talking about the the land inheritance, but but about the the land inheritance, but but about the the land inheritance, but but we're going to extrapolate from that. we're going to extrapolate from that. we're going to extrapolate from that. But the lines have fallen for me in But the lines have fallen for me in But the lines have fallen for me in pleasant places. Indeed, I have a pleasant places. Indeed, I have a pleasant places. Indeed, I have a beautiful inheritance. And if you know beautiful inheritance. And if you know beautiful inheritance. And if you know anything about the land of Israel, not anything about the land of Israel, not anything about the land of Israel, not not all the land aotments were equal. not all the land aotments were equal. not all the land aotments were equal. Northern Israel was lush and abundant Northern Israel was lush and abundant Northern Israel was lush and abundant and fertile and southern Israel is is and fertile and southern Israel is is and fertile and southern Israel is is desert. And yet what he says is where desert. And yet what he says is where desert. And yet what he says is where you've placed me and these lines that you've placed me and these lines that you've placed me and these lines that you've put in my life, these boundary you've put in my life, these boundary you've put in my life, these boundary lines, I'm going to choose contentment lines, I'm going to choose contentment lines, I'm going to choose contentment in those. And I think about all the in those. And I think about all the in those. And I think about all the boundary lines that the Lord has placed boundary lines that the Lord has placed boundary lines that the Lord has placed on me. Um you know, uh intellectual on me. Um you know, uh intellectual on me. Um you know, uh intellectual capability, uh physical capability, uh capability, uh physical capability, uh capability, uh physical capability, uh financial boundary lines, whatever it financial boundary lines, whatever it financial boundary lines, whatever it is, just we're limited, right, in all is, just we're limited, right, in all is, just we're limited, right, in all these ways. Uh spiritual giftedness these ways. Uh spiritual giftedness these ways. Uh spiritual giftedness boundary lines, all of these things. But boundary lines, all of these things. But boundary lines, all of these things. But this idea of resting within those lines this idea of resting within those lines this idea of resting within those lines that he has sovereignly drawn has been that he has sovereignly drawn has been that he has sovereignly drawn has been the thing that makes me just push this the thing that makes me just push this the thing that makes me just push this idea just back to your connection Jackie idea just back to your connection Jackie idea just back to your connection Jackie between contentment and covetousness.

between contentment and covetousness. between contentment and covetousness. Pushing this idea of contentment deeper Pushing this idea of contentment deeper Pushing this idea of contentment deeper into into my heart. One thing you said into into my heart. One thing you said into into my heart. One thing you said Jackie to like if I look at your life Jackie to like if I look at your life Jackie to like if I look at your life from the outside I'm like oh you know from the outside I'm like oh you know from the outside I'm like oh you know you're you're you're doing it. You've you're you're you're doing it. You've you're you're you're doing it. You've got a great fulfilling career. You've got a great fulfilling career. You've got a great fulfilling career. You've got a great husband who you love. You've got a great husband who you love. You've got a great husband who you love. You've got great kids. Well, at least they look got great kids. Well, at least they look got great kids. Well, at least they look great to us. They're so cute. great to us. They're so cute. great to us. They're so cute. And and um for me, actually, what And and um for me, actually, what And and um for me, actually, what started me on this topic years ago was I started me on this topic years ago was I started me on this topic years ago was I realized I had gotten what I wanted. realized I had gotten what I wanted. realized I had gotten what I wanted. >> I had the husband. I had the kids. We >> I had the husband. I had the kids. We >> I had the husband. I had the kids. We finally had moved back from Scott. We finally had moved back from Scott. We finally had moved back from Scott. We had been living overseas. So, I was had been living overseas. So, I was had been living overseas. So, I was blaming my discontentment on my blaming my discontentment on my blaming my discontentment on my location. I was like, "Oh, it's cuz it's location. I was like, "Oh, it's cuz it's location. I was like, "Oh, it's cuz it's hard because I live overseas." Well, now hard because I live overseas." Well, now hard because I live overseas." Well, now I'm back. I'm actually in the state I'm back. I'm actually in the state I'm back. I'm actually in the state where my family lives close to people I where my family lives close to people I where my family lives close to people I love, you know, with rootedness. And it love, you know, with rootedness. And it love, you know, with rootedness. And it was almost like the Lord was like, was almost like the Lord was like, was almost like the Lord was like, "Here, here you go. "Here, here you go. "Here, here you go. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> Here you go. Here's your life." And I >> Here you go. Here's your life." And I >> Here you go. Here's your life." And I was like, "Huh, was like, "Huh, was like, "Huh, I'm still deeply struggling with feeling I'm still deeply struggling with feeling I'm still deeply struggling with feeling discontent each day about a variety of discontent each day about a variety of discontent each day about a variety of things, you know." Um, and it was almost things, you know." Um, and it was almost things, you know." Um, and it was almost the exposure of getting the life I the exposure of getting the life I the exposure of getting the life I thought I wanted that made me realize I thought I wanted that made me realize I thought I wanted that made me realize I needed a desperate heart change, not a needed a desperate heart change, not a needed a desperate heart change, not a circumstance change.

circumstance change. circumstance change. >> I love it when Jackie lives. >> I love it when Jackie lives. >> I love it when Jackie lives. >> I know. I know. I know. >> I know. I know. I know. >> I know. I know. I know. >> It's highlighted. It's highlighted in my >> It's highlighted. It's highlighted in my >> It's highlighted. It's highlighted in my phone. I I pulled it up. You probably phone. I I pulled it up. You probably phone. I I pulled it up. You probably can't see it because it's blurred out. can't see it because it's blurred out. can't see it because it's blurred out. >> You want me to read it? >> You want me to read it? >> You want me to read it? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I can read it. >> I can read it. >> I can read it. >> Read it. Read it for us. She said, "My >> Read it. Read it for us. She said, "My >> Read it. Read it for us. She said, "My problem was in accepting the Lord's will problem was in accepting the Lord's will problem was in accepting the Lord's will for my life, which involved these very for my life, which involved these very for my life, which involved these very trivial items that I grumbled and trivial items that I grumbled and trivial items that I grumbled and complained about in my heart. I can say complained about in my heart. I can say complained about in my heart. I can say by God's grace, he is changing my heart by God's grace, he is changing my heart by God's grace, he is changing my heart to trust and rejoice in him regardless to trust and rejoice in him regardless to trust and rejoice in him regardless of my circumstances. However, my heart of my circumstances. However, my heart of my circumstances. However, my heart is the thing that needs changing, not my is the thing that needs changing, not my is the thing that needs changing, not my circumstances. If my heart is not freed circumstances. If my heart is not freed circumstances. If my heart is not freed from this sin pattern, then I will go from this sin pattern, then I will go from this sin pattern, then I will go from initial coveting to more coveting from initial coveting to more coveting from initial coveting to more coveting with attainment, gaining me only with attainment, gaining me only with attainment, gaining me only temporary happiness." temporary happiness." temporary happiness." Because I do I do think that Because I do I do think that Because I do I do think that covetousness covetousness covetousness is deceptive where you do think that if is deceptive where you do think that if is deceptive where you do think that if I get the thing then I will be happy I get the thing then I will be happy I get the thing then I will be happy when it's like no the heart is the when it's like no the heart is the when it's like no the heart is the issue. It's not circumstantial. It issue. It's not circumstantial. It issue. It's not circumstantial. It really is it's it's you.

really is it's it's you. really is it's it's you. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So >> So >> So >> yeah. Yeah. And I think it's actually >> yeah. Yeah. And I think it's actually >> yeah. Yeah. And I think it's actually why we find so many people at the why we find so many people at the why we find so many people at the pinnacle of their career that's when pinnacle of their career that's when pinnacle of their career that's when they crash. they crash. they crash. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I mean you look at people you're like >> I mean you look at people you're like >> I mean you look at people you're like why are you doing that now? I mean, if why are you doing that now? I mean, if why are you doing that now? I mean, if just go back to David, right? Like King just go back to David, right? Like King just go back to David, right? Like King David, I mean, David, I mean, David, I mean, >> finally gets the kingdom, finally gets >> finally gets the kingdom, finally gets >> finally gets the kingdom, finally gets peacefulness peacefulness peacefulness >> and he crashes and burns then, you know, >> and he crashes and burns then, you know, >> and he crashes and burns then, you know, and I think it just shows and I think it just shows and I think it just shows >> getting what we think we want is >> getting what we think we want is >> getting what we think we want is emptiness ultimately if if we haven't emptiness ultimately if if we haven't emptiness ultimately if if we haven't learned to rest in the Lord in plenty or learned to rest in the Lord in plenty or learned to rest in the Lord in plenty or in want. Like that's that's the thing to in want. Like that's that's the thing to in want. Like that's that's the thing to attain. Okay. Tie that in to Genesis um attain. Okay. Tie that in to Genesis um attain. Okay. Tie that in to Genesis um three. I was going to say Genesis 1. Tie three. I was going to say Genesis 1. Tie three. I was going to say Genesis 1. Tie that into Genesis. Really? Well, that into Genesis. Really? Well, that into Genesis. Really? Well, >> Genesis 1 is a lot better. Tie that into >> Genesis 1 is a lot better. Tie that into >> Genesis 1 is a lot better. Tie that into Genesis 3. What you're saying, both of Genesis 3. What you're saying, both of Genesis 3. What you're saying, both of you talk about this idea that this thing you talk about this idea that this thing you talk about this idea that this thing that became what Eve desired. Um that became what Eve desired. Um that became what Eve desired. Um knowledge of good and evil. She got it knowledge of good and evil. She got it knowledge of good and evil. She got it right. And so what like what does that right. And so what like what does that right. And so what like what does that show us? the attainment of this thing show us? the attainment of this thing show us? the attainment of this thing that we covet and take. Um, how does that we covet and take. Um, how does that we covet and take. Um, how does that really like expound this idea that that really like expound this idea that that really like expound this idea that you're talking about?

you're talking about? you're talking about? >> Yeah, I I I think there is something to >> Yeah, I I I think there is something to >> Yeah, I I I think there is something to be said about how be said about how be said about how God is wise in what he gives us when he God is wise in what he gives us when he God is wise in what he gives us when he gives it to us. Mhm. gives it to us. Mhm. gives it to us. Mhm. >> And so it's like Satan is offering you >> And so it's like Satan is offering you >> And so it's like Satan is offering you this thing this thing this thing and you have this perception of it and you have this perception of it and you have this perception of it that's not even being defined for you on that's not even being defined for you on that's not even being defined for you on God's terms. God's terms. God's terms. >> And so when you get it, you actually get >> And so when you get it, you actually get >> And so when you get it, you actually get it and you're like I can't like you get it and you're like I can't like you get it and you're like I can't like you get death. You're not getting wisdom. You're death. You're not getting wisdom. You're death. You're not getting wisdom. You're not getting goodness. You're not getting not getting goodness. You're not getting not getting goodness. You're not getting life. you're not getting. And so you life. you're not getting. And so you life. you're not getting. And so you think if I get the big house, I'll be think if I get the big house, I'll be think if I get the big house, I'll be happy. But then you get the big house happy. But then you get the big house happy. But then you get the big house and now you got a you taxes are higher, and now you got a you taxes are higher, and now you got a you taxes are higher, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> Your gas bill is crazy. You understand >> Your gas bill is crazy. You understand >> Your gas bill is crazy. You understand what I'm saying? You got neighbors what I'm saying? You got neighbors what I'm saying? You got neighbors clean. clean. clean. >> Yeah. You got more You got neighbors >> Yeah. You got more You got neighbors >> Yeah. You got more You got neighbors that you didn't have to deal with that you didn't have to deal with that you didn't have to deal with before. There's all of these things that before. There's all of these things that before. There's all of these things that you did not anticipate you would deal you did not anticipate you would deal you did not anticipate you would deal with because you were moving ahead of with because you were moving ahead of with because you were moving ahead of God's wisdom. And so I think even our God's wisdom. And so I think even our God's wisdom. And so I think even our perspective like the Lord knows what's perspective like the Lord knows what's perspective like the Lord knows what's good for us. And so there's something good for us. And so there's something good for us. And so there's something about covetousness where it's like you about covetousness where it's like you about covetousness where it's like you think you know better think you know better think you know better >> and if contentment says I just I think >> and if contentment says I just I think >> and if contentment says I just I think if I just stay here he just knows. He if I just stay here he just knows. He if I just stay here he just knows. He just knows.

just knows. just knows. >> He just knows. >> He just knows. >> He just knows. >> Just knows like the author of Psalm 73. >> Just knows like the author of Psalm 73. >> Just knows like the author of Psalm 73. You know, there is nothing on earth I You know, there is nothing on earth I You know, there is nothing on earth I desire besides you because what you're desire besides you because what you're desire besides you because what you're saying like we get it these things on saying like we get it these things on saying like we get it these things on earth that we desire and yet they just earth that we desire and yet they just earth that we desire and yet they just don't satisfy because nothing no one can don't satisfy because nothing no one can don't satisfy because nothing no one can satisfy except the Lord. And ultimately satisfy except the Lord. And ultimately satisfy except the Lord. And ultimately it's a belief in the thing over the it's a belief in the thing over the it's a belief in the thing over the belief in God. belief in God. belief in God. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know, it's like I'm putting my >> You know, it's like I'm putting my >> You know, it's like I'm putting my trust, I'm putting my hope, I'm putting trust, I'm putting my hope, I'm putting trust, I'm putting my hope, I'm putting my expectation in getting that thing. my expectation in getting that thing. my expectation in getting that thing. >> Yeah. And the Lord keeps saying, "I'm >> Yeah. And the Lord keeps saying, "I'm >> Yeah. And the Lord keeps saying, "I'm no." no." no." >> And sometimes he's going to give it to >> And sometimes he's going to give it to >> And sometimes he's going to give it to us so we'll see. It didn't satisfy. us so we'll see. It didn't satisfy. us so we'll see. It didn't satisfy. >> And sometimes I think he withholds so we >> And sometimes I think he withholds so we >> And sometimes I think he withholds so we can learn to find our satisfaction in can learn to find our satisfaction in can learn to find our satisfaction in him. him. him. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know, like I think both lessons are >> You know, like I think both lessons are >> You know, like I think both lessons are happening in this schoolroom of our day. happening in this schoolroom of our day. happening in this schoolroom of our day. But to me, Jackie, what you were just But to me, Jackie, what you were just But to me, Jackie, what you were just saying, it's actually saying, it's actually saying, it's actually not about circumstances. It's about can not about circumstances. It's about can not about circumstances. It's about can I trust the Lord? I trust the Lord? I trust the Lord? >> I think that's really the fundamental >> I think that's really the fundamental >> I think that's really the fundamental thing.

thing. thing. Well, I was going to go back to what you Well, I was going to go back to what you Well, I was going to go back to what you had said about if you get to this root had said about if you get to this root had said about if you get to this root issue of covetousness, issue of covetousness, issue of covetousness, then you are you are actually addressing then you are you are actually addressing then you are you are actually addressing a myriad of sins. And yet, I think so a myriad of sins. And yet, I think so a myriad of sins. And yet, I think so often we tend to discount and and kind often we tend to discount and and kind often we tend to discount and and kind of just think, well, covetousness is not of just think, well, covetousness is not of just think, well, covetousness is not really that big of a deal. Um, everybody really that big of a deal. Um, everybody really that big of a deal. Um, everybody co like everybody covets something and co like everybody covets something and co like everybody covets something and we kind of push it down like it's not we kind of push it down like it's not we kind of push it down like it's not this this big deal. Um James would this this big deal. Um James would this this big deal. Um James would certainly have other things to say uh to certainly have other things to say uh to certainly have other things to say uh to us about this this idea of you know what us about this this idea of you know what us about this this idea of you know what causes quarrels and fights among you is causes quarrels and fights among you is causes quarrels and fights among you is it not this. Your passions are at war it not this. Your passions are at war it not this. Your passions are at war within you. You desire and you do not within you. You desire and you do not within you. You desire and you do not have so you murder. You covet and cannot have so you murder. You covet and cannot have so you murder. You covet and cannot obtain. So you fight and quarrel. You do obtain. So you fight and quarrel. You do obtain. So you fight and quarrel. You do not have because you do not ask and you not have because you do not ask and you not have because you do not ask and you do not you ask and you do not receive do not you ask and you do not receive do not you ask and you do not receive because you ask wrongly to spend it on because you ask wrongly to spend it on because you ask wrongly to spend it on your own passions. So obviously coveting your own passions. So obviously coveting your own passions. So obviously coveting is at like you said the root. So why do is at like you said the root. So why do is at like you said the root. So why do we discount it? Why do we why do we we discount it? Why do we why do we we discount it? Why do we why do we normalize it and accept it if it is this normalize it and accept it if it is this normalize it and accept it if it is this thing that will do away with so many thing that will do away with so many thing that will do away with so many other sins?

other sins? other sins? How can we give it its proper How can we give it its proper How can we give it its proper perspective in our fight against sin? perspective in our fight against sin? perspective in our fight against sin? >> I'm I'm going ask y'all. I don't hear >> I'm I'm going ask y'all. I don't hear >> I'm I'm going ask y'all. I don't hear people teach about covetousness. people teach about covetousness. people teach about covetousness. >> Truthfully, I I have heard about envy. I >> Truthfully, I I have heard about envy. I >> Truthfully, I I have heard about envy. I have heard about jealousy. But I I do have heard about jealousy. But I I do have heard about jealousy. But I I do think when you think about um teaching think when you think about um teaching think when you think about um teaching books, literature, like conferences, a books, literature, like conferences, a books, literature, like conferences, a lot of what comes out is like you know lot of what comes out is like you know lot of what comes out is like you know sexuality sexuality sexuality >> like those but covetousness I don't >> like those but covetousness I don't >> like those but covetousness I don't really think we highlight that as a really think we highlight that as a really think we highlight that as a problematic feature of the human nature problematic feature of the human nature problematic feature of the human nature a lot. Would you say that might be a a lot. Would you say that might be a a lot. Would you say that might be a reason why we're like it's if we don't reason why we're like it's if we don't reason why we're like it's if we don't know that it's a thing, then maybe it's know that it's a thing, then maybe it's know that it's a thing, then maybe it's a part of why we're also blind to it a part of why we're also blind to it a part of why we're also blind to it within our own selves. within our own selves. within our own selves. >> Yep. I think Yeah. There's other ones >> Yep. I think Yeah. There's other ones >> Yep. I think Yeah. There's other ones it's easy to be like, "Well, that's it's easy to be like, "Well, that's it's easy to be like, "Well, that's that's her problem."

that's her problem." that's her problem." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Like we'll talk about sexuality because >> Like we'll talk about sexuality because >> Like we'll talk about sexuality because that's somebody else's problem. that's somebody else's problem. that's somebody else's problem. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And and we'll we'll be real tough on it >> And and we'll we'll be real tough on it >> And and we'll we'll be real tough on it or whatever. or we'll talk about um even or whatever. or we'll talk about um even or whatever. or we'll talk about um even things like maybe greed because I think things like maybe greed because I think things like maybe greed because I think we can hide behind I'm not greedy so I we can hide behind I'm not greedy so I we can hide behind I'm not greedy so I must not be covetousness I must not you must not be covetousness I must not you must not be covetousness I must not you know like we we picture it just being know like we we picture it just being know like we we picture it just being about money and so even for my my story about money and so even for my my story about money and so even for my my story I never really wanted I I wouldn't have I never really wanted I I wouldn't have I never really wanted I I wouldn't have described myself as greedy described myself as greedy described myself as greedy >> right so it was I was never chasing >> right so it was I was never chasing >> right so it was I was never chasing money I mean like both my husband and I money I mean like both my husband and I money I mean like both my husband and I went into ministry we were not thinking went into ministry we were not thinking went into ministry we were not thinking you know and I to be a public school you know and I to be a public school you know and I to be a public school teacher. Yeah. But I I think we h it teacher. Yeah. But I I think we h it teacher. Yeah. But I I think we h it hides because we limit it. We say, "Oh, hides because we limit it. We say, "Oh, hides because we limit it. We say, "Oh, it's just these little things." And so it's just these little things." And so it's just these little things." And so we think, "Oh, I'm not I'm not about we think, "Oh, I'm not I'm not about we think, "Oh, I'm not I'm not about money." And but yet it it's actually money." And but yet it it's actually money." And but yet it it's actually every internal desire in my heart that's every internal desire in my heart that's every internal desire in my heart that's messed up, you know, and and messed up, you know, and and messed up, you know, and and >> if we if we can keep it small rather >> if we if we can keep it small rather >> if we if we can keep it small rather than expansive, we don't think it's our than expansive, we don't think it's our than expansive, we don't think it's our problem.

problem. problem. >> And and you're right, Jack. I don't >> And and you're right, Jack. I don't >> And and you're right, Jack. I don't think people talk about it. And I I think people talk about it. And I I think people talk about it. And I I don't think we want to read about it. I don't think we want to read about it. I don't think we want to read about it. I don't think because we think it's don't think because we think it's don't think because we think it's someone else's problem. someone else's problem. someone else's problem. >> And it feels uh it feels like nasty or >> And it feels uh it feels like nasty or >> And it feels uh it feels like nasty or embarrassing. That might be a better embarrassing. That might be a better embarrassing. That might be a better word. word. word. >> To admit to being covetous feels like >> To admit to being covetous feels like >> To admit to being covetous feels like covetous or to being jeal like those are covetous or to being jeal like those are covetous or to being jeal like those are those that package of of sin that that those that package of of sin that that those that package of of sin that that makes you feel a kind of like it's you makes you feel a kind of like it's you makes you feel a kind of like it's you don't want to identify with that one, don't want to identify with that one, don't want to identify with that one, not that one. It's it's very similar to not that one. It's it's very similar to not that one. It's it's very similar to the person who says who prefers to say the person who says who prefers to say the person who says who prefers to say that they're angry rather than saying that they're angry rather than saying that they're angry rather than saying that they're hurt. There's something that they're hurt. There's something that they're hurt. There's something about identifying with anger that still about identifying with anger that still about identifying with anger that still feels strong rather than saying I'm feels strong rather than saying I'm feels strong rather than saying I'm hurt. So to say that I'm covetous feels hurt. So to say that I'm covetous feels hurt. So to say that I'm covetous feels a little like who do you think I am? It a little like who do you think I am? It a little like who do you think I am? It feels weak. feels weak. feels weak. >> But maybe to identify that you're >> But maybe to identify that you're >> But maybe to identify that you're covetous might actually break off some covetous might actually break off some covetous might actually break off some things because now we're getting to the things because now we're getting to the things because now we're getting to the root of some issues. root of some issues. root of some issues. >> That's that's good. Okay. So what is >> That's that's good. Okay. So what is >> That's that's good. Okay. So what is this? We keep talking about envy and this? We keep talking about envy and this? We keep talking about envy and coveting. So, what's the relation? I coveting. So, what's the relation? I coveting. So, what's the relation? I mean, are they synonymous? Are there mean, are they synonymous? Are there mean, are they synonymous? Are there differences? Like, where's the vin differences? Like, where's the vin differences? Like, where's the vin diagram on envy and coveting? I like an diagram on envy and coveting? I like an diagram on envy and coveting? I like an umbrella. That's what I like to say.

umbrella. That's what I like to say. umbrella. That's what I like to say. Like, coveting is an umbrella sin. And Like, coveting is an umbrella sin. And Like, coveting is an umbrella sin. And under it, there are other words that are under it, there are other words that are under it, there are other words that are descriptive of types of coveting. So, descriptive of types of coveting. So, descriptive of types of coveting. So, you've got greed, which tends to be you've got greed, which tends to be you've got greed, which tends to be possessions and money type. You got possessions and money type. You got possessions and money type. You got lust, which is coveting that's sexual in lust, which is coveting that's sexual in lust, which is coveting that's sexual in nature. And then you've got envy, which nature. And then you've got envy, which nature. And then you've got envy, which I like to think of as something your I like to think of as something your I like to think of as something your neighbor has that you didn't even know neighbor has that you didn't even know neighbor has that you didn't even know you needed. you needed. you needed. And then you see, oh, I want that, too. And then you see, oh, I want that, too. And then you see, oh, I want that, too. I want that new car. I want, I want that new car. I want, I want that new car. I want, >> you know, so so it's like it's >> you know, so so it's like it's >> you know, so so it's like it's >> I want a I want a virtual toaster. >> I want a I want a virtual toaster. >> I want a I want a virtual toaster. >> A virtual toaster. >> A virtual toaster. >> A virtual toaster. >> I'm just making something else. I just >> I'm just making something else. I just >> I'm just making something else. I just see see see >> I'm at home. I'm at home so much. I see >> I'm at home. I'm at home so much. I see >> I'm at home. I'm at home so much. I see people making stuff like, "Oh, that make people making stuff like, "Oh, that make people making stuff like, "Oh, that make that that would make breakfast so much that that would make breakfast so much that that would make breakfast so much easier for me." I never knew that I easier for me." I never knew that I easier for me." I never knew that I wanted that and don't even need it. But wanted that and don't even need it. But wanted that and don't even need it. But >> I've never heard of one and now I want >> I've never heard of one and now I want >> I've never heard of one and now I want one, Jackie. one, Jackie. one, Jackie. >> Thanks. >> Thanks. >> Thanks. >> I'm just saying covenant. >> I'm just saying covenant. >> I'm just saying covenant. >> Well, Melissa, to your point, when you >> Well, Melissa, to your point, when you >> Well, Melissa, to your point, when you know, we read the ten commandments and know, we read the ten commandments and know, we read the ten commandments and the one on coveting, right? It's very, the one on coveting, right? It's very, the one on coveting, right? It's very, it goes through these different it goes through these different it goes through these different categories of things that I could almost categories of things that I could almost categories of things that I could almost put under your umbrella. You know, you put under your umbrella. You know, you put under your umbrella. You know, you shall not covet your neighbor's house.

shall not covet your neighbor's house. shall not covet your neighbor's house. you shall not covet your neighbor's wife you shall not covet your neighbor's wife you shall not covet your neighbor's wife or his male servant or his female or his male servant or his female or his male servant or his female servant. And I'm like, that could be servant. And I'm like, that could be servant. And I'm like, that could be either way. That could be like sexually either way. That could be like sexually either way. That could be like sexually or that could be that I just want that or that could be that I just want that or that could be that I just want that help. I want somebody coming over and, help. I want somebody coming over and, help. I want somebody coming over and, you know, I want somebody to clean my you know, I want somebody to clean my you know, I want somebody to clean my house or whatever it is or his ox or his house or whatever it is or his ox or his house or whatever it is or his ox or his donkey or anything that is your donkey or anything that is your donkey or anything that is your neighbors. Like very specific, very neighbors. Like very specific, very neighbors. Like very specific, very specific. Lots of categories. Why do you specific. Lots of categories. Why do you specific. Lots of categories. Why do you think I mean that kind of goes back to think I mean that kind of goes back to think I mean that kind of goes back to your umbrella explanation of these your umbrella explanation of these your umbrella explanation of these different types? I mean, I'm assuming different types? I mean, I'm assuming different types? I mean, I'm assuming that that's what you would say is that's that that's what you would say is that's that that's what you would say is that's why we get these list of examples. But why we get these list of examples. But why we get these list of examples. But it also, back to Jackie's point, means it also, back to Jackie's point, means it also, back to Jackie's point, means that this idea of coveting is that this idea of coveting is that this idea of coveting is pretty foundational to a variety of sins pretty foundational to a variety of sins pretty foundational to a variety of sins in our life. Well, who is it? Which in our life. Well, who is it? Which in our life. Well, who is it? Which verse is it? It says covetousness which verse is it? It says covetousness which verse is it? It says covetousness which is idolatry. We'll find it. Do you know is idolatry. We'll find it. Do you know is idolatry. We'll find it. Do you know that verse? There is one. I know. that verse? There is one. I know. that verse? There is one. I know. >> I think it's Colossians. It sounds like >> I think it's Colossians. It sounds like >> I think it's Colossians. It sounds like Colossians, but Colossians, but Colossians, but >> yeah, he parathetically says >> yeah, he parathetically says >> yeah, he parathetically says covetousness, covetousness, covetousness, >> you know, otherwise known as idolatry, >> you know, otherwise known as idolatry, >> you know, otherwise known as idolatry, which is really interesting, right? The which is really interesting, right? The which is really interesting, right? The 10th commandment circles back to the 10th commandment circles back to the 10th commandment circles back to the first.

first. first. >> Have no other gods before me, >> Have no other gods before me, >> Have no other gods before me, >> you know, and and so it's basically >> you know, and and so it's basically >> you know, and and so it's basically saying whatever we covet has has become saying whatever we covet has has become saying whatever we covet has has become an idol. And I think the list of all of an idol. And I think the list of all of an idol. And I think the list of all of these things is just showing the human these things is just showing the human these things is just showing the human heart is an idol factory. As Calvin heart is an idol factory. As Calvin heart is an idol factory. As Calvin said, like whatever exists can be made said, like whatever exists can be made said, like whatever exists can be made something that we bow down and worship something that we bow down and worship something that we bow down and worship to. That is the inclination of our to. That is the inclination of our to. That is the inclination of our hearts. And I, you're right, it's one of hearts. And I, you're right, it's one of hearts. And I, you're right, it's one of the only ones he lists out. He doesn't the only ones he lists out. He doesn't the only ones he lists out. He doesn't say, "Oh, you steal, you know, this, say, "Oh, you steal, you know, this, say, "Oh, you steal, you know, this, this, or the." He just says, "Don't this, or the." He just says, "Don't this, or the." He just says, "Don't steal." steal." steal." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But on this one, he lists it out. That's >> But on this one, he lists it out. That's >> But on this one, he lists it out. That's interesting. interesting. interesting. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I I think when I have these kinds of I I think when I have these kinds of I I think when I have these kinds of conversations, there's conversations, there's conversations, there's uh a part of me uh a part of me uh a part of me that laments the human condition, that laments the human condition, that laments the human condition, you know, um because it just gets to how you know, um because it just gets to how you know, um because it just gets to how comprehensive comprehensive comprehensive sin is. Like it just like when you sin is. Like it just like when you sin is. Like it just like when you really get to to the root of it, it's really get to to the root of it, it's really get to to the root of it, it's just like, man, this is deep. like this just like, man, this is deep. like this just like, man, this is deep. like this is really get it's in the passions, it's is really get it's in the passions, it's is really get it's in the passions, it's in the desires, it's in the affections, in the desires, it's in the affections, in the desires, it's in the affections, it's in the thoughts, it's in the thing.

it's in the thoughts, it's in the thing. it's in the thoughts, it's in the thing. And that's why that's why we need And that's why that's why we need And that's why that's why we need Christ. Christ. Christ. >> Um like we need him. And so I think >> Um like we need him. And so I think >> Um like we need him. And so I think there's a sense in which um it there's a sense in which um it there's a sense in which um it >> it it's just like you can't be >> it it's just like you can't be >> it it's just like you can't be self-righteous. You really cannot think self-righteous. You really cannot think self-righteous. You really cannot think that you can do this thing in the flesh that you can do this thing in the flesh that you can do this thing in the flesh or depend on legalism or works of the or depend on legalism or works of the or depend on legalism or works of the law and all this stuff like you have to law and all this stuff like you have to law and all this stuff like you have to depend on him. But it also is to say depend on him. But it also is to say depend on him. But it also is to say that God has created us with a world of that God has created us with a world of that God has created us with a world of desires desires desires >> and might it be that he has the capacity >> and might it be that he has the capacity >> and might it be that he has the capacity to satisfy us beyond our imagination. to satisfy us beyond our imagination. to satisfy us beyond our imagination. And there's a reality that like some of And there's a reality that like some of And there's a reality that like some of this stuff won't we won't experience the this stuff won't we won't experience the this stuff won't we won't experience the glory. That's just the reality. But glory. That's just the reality. But glory. That's just the reality. But could we press into him in a way that could we press into him in a way that could we press into him in a way that like, man, Lord, I just I'm needy. like, man, Lord, I just I'm needy. like, man, Lord, I just I'm needy. >> So, let me pray more than I usually >> So, let me pray more than I usually >> So, let me pray more than I usually pray. pray. pray. >> Maybe I need to take up fasting. I >> Maybe I need to take up fasting. I >> Maybe I need to take up fasting. I haven't been doing that cuz I thought it haven't been doing that cuz I thought it haven't been doing that cuz I thought it was religious, but my flesh is tripping.

was religious, but my flesh is tripping. was religious, but my flesh is tripping. Like, I need you. Let me talk to my Like, I need you. Let me talk to my Like, I need you. Let me talk to my sisters. Hey, I really been struggling. sisters. Hey, I really been struggling. sisters. Hey, I really been struggling. Maybe you need to get off Instagram for Maybe you need to get off Instagram for Maybe you need to get off Instagram for a while, sis. Like, like that's really a while, sis. Like, like that's really a while, sis. Like, like that's really messing with you. Like maybe your issue messing with you. Like maybe your issue messing with you. Like maybe your issue isn't porn, but you're following a lot isn't porn, but you're following a lot isn't porn, but you're following a lot of relationship accounts that's really of relationship accounts that's really of relationship accounts that's really messing with the way you view your messing with the way you view your messing with the way you view your husband. Like having these really honest husband. Like having these really honest husband. Like having these really honest conversations that can help us just lean conversations that can help us just lean conversations that can help us just lean into Christ in a different way. And into Christ in a different way. And into Christ in a different way. And these temptations are just showing us these temptations are just showing us these temptations are just showing us our need. So I I'm I'm just saying I our need. So I I'm I'm just saying I our need. So I I'm I'm just saying I don't know. I'm just reflecting on don't know. I'm just reflecting on don't know. I'm just reflecting on >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> No, it's so helpful. >> No, it's so helpful. >> No, it's so helpful. >> We need the Lord. Like you're saying, >> We need the Lord. Like you're saying, >> We need the Lord. Like you're saying, sometimes it starts with just sitting sometimes it starts with just sitting sometimes it starts with just sitting long enough to let the spirit reveal, long enough to let the spirit reveal, long enough to let the spirit reveal, bring these things up and show us. And bring these things up and show us. And bring these things up and show us. And then you're giving us action steps of then you're giving us action steps of then you're giving us action steps of calling other believers into it in calling other believers into it in calling other believers into it in vulnerability and honesty and saying, vulnerability and honesty and saying, vulnerability and honesty and saying, you know, remind me of the gospel in you know, remind me of the gospel in you know, remind me of the gospel in this sin struggle and point me to Christ this sin struggle and point me to Christ this sin struggle and point me to Christ in this sin struggle. Remind me of the in this sin struggle. Remind me of the in this sin struggle. Remind me of the sufficiency of Christ in this. Because sufficiency of Christ in this. Because sufficiency of Christ in this. Because even as you were talking, like I loved even as you were talking, like I loved even as you were talking, like I loved that, you know, you pointed us to the that, you know, you pointed us to the that, you know, you pointed us to the fact that all of these desires fact that all of these desires fact that all of these desires actually can only be and can be actually can only be and can be actually can only be and can be perfectly satisfied in Christ. They're perfectly satisfied in Christ. They're perfectly satisfied in Christ. They're not going to be satisfied the way we not going to be satisfied the way we not going to be satisfied the way we think we want them satisfied, but think we want them satisfied, but think we want them satisfied, but they're going to be satisfied in such they're going to be satisfied in such they're going to be satisfied in such better ways. Yeah. And and but I think better ways. Yeah. And and but I think better ways. Yeah. And and but I think we just have to stop long enough to let we just have to stop long enough to let we just have to stop long enough to let this catch up with us that this is what

this catch up with us that this is what this catch up with us that this is what my heart is doing and the sin factory my heart is doing and the sin factory my heart is doing and the sin factory that it is and what I'm actually that it is and what I'm actually that it is and what I'm actually desiring. And can I say what comes on desiring. And can I say what comes on desiring. And can I say what comes on the other side because I've looked at the other side because I've looked at the other side because I've looked at this hard and long and let me tell you this hard and long and let me tell you this hard and long and let me tell you every time I speak on it. every time I speak on it. every time I speak on it. >> Let me just say like ants invade my >> Let me just say like ants invade my >> Let me just say like ants invade my house like a ton of thousand house like a ton of thousand house like a ton of thousand circumstances that I don't want tend to circumstances that I don't want tend to circumstances that I don't want tend to come my way when I'm getting ready to come my way when I'm getting ready to come my way when I'm getting ready to speak on this topic. So the Lord always speak on this topic. So the Lord always speak on this topic. So the Lord always keeps it very real about my issues every keeps it very real about my issues every keeps it very real about my issues every time I speak on it. time I speak on it. time I speak on it. >> And here's what I will say. >> And here's what I will say. >> And here's what I will say. >> Embrace how how how truly sinful we are. >> Embrace how how how truly sinful we are. >> Embrace how how how truly sinful we are. You know, Tim Keller always talk we You know, Tim Keller always talk we You know, Tim Keller always talk we don't have to try to be righteous. Like don't have to try to be righteous. Like don't have to try to be righteous. Like I think that the reason we fight to say I think that the reason we fight to say I think that the reason we fight to say I'm not covetous is because we don't I'm not covetous is because we don't I'm not covetous is because we don't want to need Jesus that much. want to need Jesus that much. want to need Jesus that much. >> Like we just don't want and here's what >> Like we just don't want and here's what >> Like we just don't want and here's what I'll say. The more I have just embraced I'll say. The more I have just embraced I'll say. The more I have just embraced I'm sorry I'm doing it again. I'm sorry. I'm sorry I'm doing it again. I'm sorry. I'm sorry I'm doing it again. I'm sorry. The more I've done that, I got no room The more I've done that, I got no room The more I've done that, I got no room for judgment. I could tell you like for judgment. I could tell you like for judgment. I could tell you like talking about this topic, seeing my own talking about this topic, seeing my own talking about this topic, seeing my own heart over and over again. Covet the heart over and over again. Covet the heart over and over again. Covet the stupidest things, y'all. I mean, you stupidest things, y'all. I mean, you stupidest things, y'all. I mean, you know, just sorry.

know, just sorry. know, just sorry. Just don't have judgment for other Just don't have judgment for other Just don't have judgment for other people cuz when you're doing battle and people cuz when you're doing battle and people cuz when you're doing battle and you know how hard the battle is in your you know how hard the battle is in your you know how hard the battle is in your own heart over own heart over own heart over silly things, you stop looking at your silly things, you stop looking at your silly things, you stop looking at your sister who's struggling and saying, sister who's struggling and saying, sister who's struggling and saying, "What's your problem?" "What's your problem?" "What's your problem?" >> Yeah. You know, I I would actually say >> Yeah. You know, I I would actually say >> Yeah. You know, I I would actually say the church's problem is we don't admit the church's problem is we don't admit the church's problem is we don't admit our own sin and we want to always look our own sin and we want to always look our own sin and we want to always look at the sins of other people. at the sins of other people. at the sins of other people. >> And so therefore, we have no compassion. >> And so therefore, we have no compassion. >> And so therefore, we have no compassion. We have no kindness. We have no We have no kindness. We have no We have no kindness. We have no tenderheartedness towards the struggler tenderheartedness towards the struggler tenderheartedness towards the struggler because we're not actually fighting the because we're not actually fighting the because we're not actually fighting the sin we have in our hearts sin we have in our hearts sin we have in our hearts >> you know and and so I will say the >> you know and and so I will say the >> you know and and so I will say the beauty of going ahead and accepting how beauty of going ahead and accepting how beauty of going ahead and accepting how much we are sinners looking at this much we are sinners looking at this much we are sinners looking at this exploring all the reasons I'm discontent exploring all the reasons I'm discontent exploring all the reasons I'm discontent and saying yep it's a heart problem and saying yep it's a heart problem and saying yep it's a heart problem Melissa is actually going to give birth Melissa is actually going to give birth Melissa is actually going to give birth to life to life to life >> like it's not to condemn it's actually >> like it's not to condemn it's actually >> like it's not to condemn it's actually to help us to help us to help us lean into Jesus lean into Jesus lean into Jesus >> and that's salvation.

>> and that's salvation. >> and that's salvation. >> That's salvation. >> That's salvation. >> That's salvation. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> We just don't want to want it. We don't >> We just don't want to want it. We don't >> We just don't want to want it. We don't want to need him. We're still fighting want to need him. We're still fighting want to need him. We're still fighting for works based righteousness. It I see for works based righteousness. It I see for works based righteousness. It I see it in my heart. I don't want to be this it in my heart. I don't want to be this it in my heart. I don't want to be this needy of a person. Sorry for crying. needy of a person. Sorry for crying. needy of a person. Sorry for crying. >> No, it's so good. I'll tell you what. >> No, it's so good. I'll tell you what. >> No, it's so good. I'll tell you what. >> Yeah. It's real and it's helpful and >> Yeah. It's real and it's helpful and >> Yeah. It's real and it's helpful and it's true and it's good and it's it's true and it's good and it's it's true and it's good and it's pointing us to Christ. And I think what pointing us to Christ. And I think what pointing us to Christ. And I think what we're trying to do is identify we're trying to do is identify we're trying to do is identify covetousness in our own heart. and talk covetousness in our own heart. and talk covetousness in our own heart. and talk about ways that we combat it, that we um about ways that we combat it, that we um about ways that we combat it, that we um push against it and set our eyes back on push against it and set our eyes back on push against it and set our eyes back on Christ. But I think there's also an Christ. But I think there's also an Christ. But I think there's also an angle that's worth talking about and angle that's worth talking about and angle that's worth talking about and that is talking about the desire we have that is talking about the desire we have that is talking about the desire we have and talk about like Jackie were saying, and talk about like Jackie were saying, and talk about like Jackie were saying, it's hard to say these things about it's hard to say these things about it's hard to say these things about oursel, but talk about the desire we oursel, but talk about the desire we oursel, but talk about the desire we have for other people to covet us have for other people to covet us have for other people to covet us sometimes. the things that we do to stir sometimes. the things that we do to stir sometimes. the things that we do to stir up covetousness up covetousness up covetousness in in others or that we kind of love in in others or that we kind of love in in others or that we kind of love that like that somebody would would envy that like that somebody would would envy that like that somebody would would envy or covet us or what we have. I mean, or covet us or what we have. I mean, or covet us or what we have. I mean, that's that talk about ugly to look at.

that's that talk about ugly to look at. that's that talk about ugly to look at. It's a lot easier to look at me coveting It's a lot easier to look at me coveting It's a lot easier to look at me coveting something than to think about the fact something than to think about the fact something than to think about the fact that I would want somebody to covet what that I would want somebody to covet what that I would want somebody to covet what I have, what the Lord's given me. I have, what the Lord's given me. I have, what the Lord's given me. >> And I don't know if we would be as >> And I don't know if we would be as >> And I don't know if we would be as articulate articulate articulate as that. uh just because we don't want as that. uh just because we don't want as that. uh just because we don't want our conscience to be hit a little bit. our conscience to be hit a little bit. our conscience to be hit a little bit. But I do I think we want to be wanted. But I do I think we want to be wanted. But I do I think we want to be wanted. We want to be desired. Um um and We want to be desired. Um um and We want to be desired. Um um and especially if you're gifted, all of us especially if you're gifted, all of us especially if you're gifted, all of us are gifted in a variety of ways. We are are gifted in a variety of ways. We are are gifted in a variety of ways. We are gifted with intelligence. We might be gifted with intelligence. We might be gifted with intelligence. We might be gifted administratively. We might be gifted administratively. We might be gifted administratively. We might be gifted uh some of us are gifted gifted uh some of us are gifted gifted uh some of us are gifted aesthetically with beauty. And um I read aesthetically with beauty. And um I read aesthetically with beauty. And um I read this book by Hannah Anderson. I do not this book by Hannah Anderson. I do not this book by Hannah Anderson. I do not remember the title, but she has this remember the title, but she has this remember the title, but she has this section on there that I put in my pocket section on there that I put in my pocket section on there that I put in my pocket cuz it was just interesting where she cuz it was just interesting where she cuz it was just interesting where she talks about beauty and how the thing talks about beauty and how the thing talks about beauty and how the thing with beauty is beauty draws things to with beauty is beauty draws things to with beauty is beauty draws things to itself itself itself and how when you look at the Grand and how when you look at the Grand and how when you look at the Grand Canyon, you just keep looking at it. But Canyon, you just keep looking at it. But Canyon, you just keep looking at it. But how the goal of beauty is to draw it to how the goal of beauty is to draw it to how the goal of beauty is to draw it to itself so you can go beyond it to see itself so you can go beyond it to see itself so you can go beyond it to see where the beauty came from.

where the beauty came from. where the beauty came from. >> And so if God has given you a beautiful >> And so if God has given you a beautiful >> And so if God has given you a beautiful thing, thing, thing, I I think you don't want someone to I I think you don't want someone to I I think you don't want someone to desire you or covet you for you because desire you or covet you for you because desire you or covet you for you because that's a little satanic. I'm not saying that's a little satanic. I'm not saying that's a little satanic. I'm not saying you're a Satanist. I'm saying that you're a Satanist. I'm saying that you're a Satanist. I'm saying that that's that's that's that's that's that's a bit that's pride right at its core. a bit that's pride right at its core. a bit that's pride right at its core. That's a bit satanic. But it's to That's a bit satanic. But it's to That's a bit satanic. But it's to steward that thing and say, "No, if I steward that thing and say, "No, if I steward that thing and say, "No, if I have a teaching gift, if I have a have a teaching gift, if I have a have a teaching gift, if I have a beautiful face, if I have an beautiful face, if I have an beautiful face, if I have an administrative gift, whatever that thing administrative gift, whatever that thing administrative gift, whatever that thing is, if you are drawn to me, I'm going to is, if you are drawn to me, I'm going to is, if you are drawn to me, I'm going to use this beauty and steward this beauty use this beauty and steward this beauty use this beauty and steward this beauty so you can see where the beauty came so you can see where the beauty came so you can see where the beauty came from." Right? from." Right? from." Right? >> That's the goal. And so, I just think >> That's the goal. And so, I just think >> That's the goal. And so, I just think the I think the core desire is the the I think the core desire is the the I think the core desire is the desire to be wanted. Um the desire to be desire to be wanted. Um the desire to be desire to be wanted. Um the desire to be delighted in, but we are delighted in in delighted in, but we are delighted in in delighted in, but we are delighted in in Christ, Christ, Christ, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> That's good. I like that it's almost >> That's good. I like that it's almost >> That's good. I like that it's almost like a conduit leading people to Jesus. like a conduit leading people to Jesus. like a conduit leading people to Jesus. >> Like we're always lesser lights pointing >> Like we're always lesser lights pointing >> Like we're always lesser lights pointing to the better light. to the better light. to the better light. >> Yeah. And you got to do some constant >> Yeah. And you got to do some constant >> Yeah. And you got to do some constant soul work because I mean that stuff soul work because I mean that stuff soul work because I mean that stuff feels good. It does.

feels good. It does. feels good. It does. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh but but it it it will destroy you. >> Uh but but it it it will destroy you. >> Uh but but it it it will destroy you. >> It's that constant question. What do I >> It's that constant question. What do I >> It's that constant question. What do I have that I haven't been given? And the have that I haven't been given? And the have that I haven't been given? And the answer is absolutely nothing. And so if answer is absolutely nothing. And so if answer is absolutely nothing. And so if we've been given it, what what is the we've been given it, what what is the we've been given it, what what is the purpose? I remember asking my youngest purpose? I remember asking my youngest purpose? I remember asking my youngest daughter when she was little. She was daughter when she was little. She was daughter when she was little. She was pretty academically gifted and I just pretty academically gifted and I just pretty academically gifted and I just she was maybe second grade and I just she was maybe second grade and I just she was maybe second grade and I just remember saying um who made you good at remember saying um who made you good at remember saying um who made you good at math and she was like God. And I said math and she was like God. And I said math and she was like God. And I said why did you why did he make you good at why did you why did he make you good at why did you why did he make you good at math? And she thought about it and she math? And she thought about it and she math? And she thought about it and she was like for the purposes he has for me was like for the purposes he has for me was like for the purposes he has for me like you know and it's like that's like you know and it's like that's like you know and it's like that's exactly it. I mean everything that you exactly it. I mean everything that you exactly it. I mean everything that you have whether it's you know possessions have whether it's you know possessions have whether it's you know possessions or like you said physical attributes or or like you said physical attributes or or like you said physical attributes or spiritual gifts all of it every single spiritual gifts all of it every single spiritual gifts all of it every single thing thing thing >> is for his glory and the good of his >> is for his glory and the good of his >> is for his glory and the good of his people and we receive it as a gift. I I people and we receive it as a gift. I I people and we receive it as a gift. I I just love that that that does. But I I just love that that that does. But I I just love that that that does. But I I think what we're seeing happen right now think what we're seeing happen right now think what we're seeing happen right now through social media is the desire for through social media is the desire for through social media is the desire for the gaze and the delight to be on that the gaze and the delight to be on that the gaze and the delight to be on that person and it stops there. And so like person and it stops there. And so like person and it stops there. And so like you said, that's just constantly a you said, that's just constantly a you said, that's just constantly a question that we need to be asking um of question that we need to be asking um of question that we need to be asking um of our own hearts. It's a it's a good our own hearts. It's a it's a good our own hearts. It's a it's a good diagnostic diagnostic diagnostic um um um >> diagnostic tool, litmus test for our own >> diagnostic tool, litmus test for our own >> diagnostic tool, litmus test for our own for our own hearts. Can I ask another for our own hearts. Can I ask another for our own hearts. Can I ask another question like that?

question like that? question like that? H how do you what are the signposts on H how do you what are the signposts on H how do you what are the signposts on the road for you guys that you're the road for you guys that you're the road for you guys that you're coveting coveting coveting like just in general? Like so that's like just in general? Like so that's like just in general? Like so that's kind of a you know like how cuz often we kind of a you know like how cuz often we kind of a you know like how cuz often we don't want to admit we have this don't want to admit we have this don't want to admit we have this problem. Are there any kind of signposts problem. Are there any kind of signposts problem. Are there any kind of signposts that point and say, "Hey, hey, that point and say, "Hey, hey, that point and say, "Hey, hey, >> that's coveting." Because I think I do >> that's coveting." Because I think I do >> that's coveting." Because I think I do think we limit it to certain things think we limit it to certain things think we limit it to certain things like, "I'm going to steal Courtney's new like, "I'm going to steal Courtney's new like, "I'm going to steal Courtney's new coat. That means I'm coveting," you coat. That means I'm coveting," you coat. That means I'm coveting," you know, or whatever. But where do y'all know, or whatever. But where do y'all know, or whatever. But where do y'all How do you start to notice, oh, this is How do you start to notice, oh, this is How do you start to notice, oh, this is about that, not about the thing? about that, not about the thing? about that, not about the thing? >> Yeah. Want me to confess first? >> Yeah. Want me to confess first? >> Yeah. Want me to confess first? >> Yeah. Always. >> Yeah. Always. >> Yeah. Always. >> That's why I asked the question. Come >> That's why I asked the question. Come >> That's why I asked the question. Come on. on. on. I think the intensity of the desire, I think the intensity of the desire, I think the intensity of the desire, it it feels like a craving, like a it it feels like a craving, like a it it feels like a craving, like a hunger. And I take note of it in my It hunger. And I take note of it in my It hunger. And I take note of it in my It feels like lust. And it might not even feels like lust. And it might not even feels like lust. And it might not even be a a a sexual lust. It can be a a be a a a sexual lust. It can be a a be a a a sexual lust. It can be a a thing, a person, a conversation. Um but thing, a person, a conversation. Um but thing, a person, a conversation. Um but it feels inordinate. And I'm like, hm, it feels inordinate. And I'm like, hm, it feels inordinate. And I'm like, hm, this isn't that's not okay. And I've this isn't that's not okay. And I've this isn't that's not okay. And I've I've noted how I I I've noted how where I've noted how I I I've noted how where I've noted how I I I've noted how where there might have been and this is there might have been and this is there might have been and this is because I I can lean kind of because I I can lean kind of because I I can lean kind of thinking about trauma and all in its thinking about trauma and all in its thinking about trauma and all in its relationship to sin patterns, but I I've relationship to sin patterns, but I I've relationship to sin patterns, but I I've noted how what I've lacked in childhood

noted how what I've lacked in childhood noted how what I've lacked in childhood can play a part in what I coveret as an can play a part in what I coveret as an can play a part in what I coveret as an adult, adult, adult, >> right? And so where it's like, oh, like >> right? And so where it's like, oh, like >> right? And so where it's like, oh, like your mom didn't do that. So you tend to your mom didn't do that. So you tend to your mom didn't do that. So you tend to want to covet this or so or when Preston want to covet this or so or when Preston want to covet this or so or when Preston doesn't do this, you want to covet that doesn't do this, you want to covet that doesn't do this, you want to covet that like and so I'm just I have my antennas like and so I'm just I have my antennas like and so I'm just I have my antennas in certain directions where I am more in certain directions where I am more in certain directions where I am more prone to covet certain things because prone to covet certain things because prone to covet certain things because these are my particular sin patterns. So these are my particular sin patterns. So these are my particular sin patterns. So I think the intensity of the craving um I think the intensity of the craving um I think the intensity of the craving um and the places the things that I just and the places the things that I just and the places the things that I just don't say thank you to God enough for. don't say thank you to God enough for. don't say thank you to God enough for. >> I just make I've started to make note >> I just make I've started to make note >> I just make I've started to make note for the things I just don't praise him for the things I just don't praise him for the things I just don't praise him for. Yeah, I would say along those for. Yeah, I would say along those for. Yeah, I would say along those lines, the areas of life that I'm lines, the areas of life that I'm lines, the areas of life that I'm complaining about or that I'm letting complaining about or that I'm letting complaining about or that I'm letting bitterness grow in, um those I usually bitterness grow in, um those I usually bitterness grow in, um those I usually there's something out there that I think there's something out there that I think there's something out there that I think I should have that I don't. And so I should have that I don't. And so I should have that I don't. And so that's where that complainy bitterness that's where that complainy bitterness that's where that complainy bitterness is is growing or just like you said, is is growing or just like you said, is is growing or just like you said, that growing sense of a lack of that growing sense of a lack of that growing sense of a lack of contentment in circumstances or contentment in circumstances or contentment in circumstances or whatever. I mean, it can be lack of it whatever. I mean, it can be lack of it whatever. I mean, it can be lack of it can be lack of contentment in anything.

can be lack of contentment in anything. can be lack of contentment in anything. Lack of contentment in spiritual gifts, Lack of contentment in spiritual gifts, Lack of contentment in spiritual gifts, lack of lack of contentment in in um lack of lack of contentment in in um lack of lack of contentment in in um physical abilities. I mean, it just physical abilities. I mean, it just physical abilities. I mean, it just doesn't matter. It's all of it, right? doesn't matter. It's all of it, right? doesn't matter. It's all of it, right? And so, all of that starts revealing And so, all of that starts revealing And so, all of that starts revealing this. But I liked what you said about, this. But I liked what you said about, this. But I liked what you said about, you know, as we do as we do good you know, as we do as we do good you know, as we do as we do good heartwork of understanding our stories heartwork of understanding our stories heartwork of understanding our stories of origin, I just think that so the of origin, I just think that so the of origin, I just think that so the temptation then is to stop with that temptation then is to stop with that temptation then is to stop with that knowledge. like I desire this because of knowledge. like I desire this because of knowledge. like I desire this because of a lack in my childhood or because of a lack in my childhood or because of a lack in my childhood or because of trauma in my childhood and and then we trauma in my childhood and and then we trauma in my childhood and and then we say and so so that's that's my reason say and so so that's that's my reason say and so so that's that's my reason but that doesn't mean right that like but that doesn't mean right that like but that doesn't mean right that like what you were saying is pushing it past what you were saying is pushing it past what you were saying is pushing it past that and saying okay now I can use that that and saying okay now I can use that that and saying okay now I can use that as a tool to help me recognize this as a tool to help me recognize this as a tool to help me recognize this thing that now I need to continue the thing that now I need to continue the thing that now I need to continue the heart work to press into Christ and into heart work to press into Christ and into heart work to press into Christ and into the more beautiful thing and the better the more beautiful thing and the better the more beautiful thing and the better thing and the thing that will satisfy um thing and the thing that will satisfy um thing and the thing that will satisfy um more. Melissa, what about you? What are more. Melissa, what about you? What are more. Melissa, what about you? What are some signposts, some red flags in your some signposts, some red flags in your some signposts, some red flags in your life? Yeah, I I definitely would say life? Yeah, I I definitely would say life? Yeah, I I definitely would say where I see discontentment brewing and where I see discontentment brewing and where I see discontentment brewing and um uh Oh, there's a phrase I love. It's um uh Oh, there's a phrase I love. It's um uh Oh, there's a phrase I love. It's from some old long dead guy. Um it says, from some old long dead guy. Um it says, from some old long dead guy. Um it says, "Discontentment is merely the echo of "Discontentment is merely the echo of "Discontentment is merely the echo of unbelief."

unbelief." unbelief." >> And that, you know, just it's so I'm >> And that, you know, just it's so I'm >> And that, you know, just it's so I'm like, "What am I not believing?" like, "What am I not believing?" like, "What am I not believing?" >> Discontentment. My question should be >> Discontentment. My question should be >> Discontentment. My question should be what am I not believing? And so like what am I not believing? And so like what am I not believing? And so like these are really practical for me. Like these are really practical for me. Like these are really practical for me. Like I where am I giving myself an excuse to I where am I giving myself an excuse to I where am I giving myself an excuse to sin because of a circumstance in my life sin because of a circumstance in my life sin because of a circumstance in my life that's not favorable? So like I was that's not favorable? So like I was that's not favorable? So like I was telling Courtney like right now I have telling Courtney like right now I have telling Courtney like right now I have this hip pain that often wakes me up at this hip pain that often wakes me up at this hip pain that often wakes me up at night so I don't sleep well. night so I don't sleep well. night so I don't sleep well. >> So you know I I could just complain >> So you know I I could just complain >> So you know I I could just complain about the problem and then feel the about the problem and then feel the about the problem and then feel the right to yell at my husband or at my kid right to yell at my husband or at my kid right to yell at my husband or at my kid because I'm grumpy. Well, I have a right because I'm grumpy. Well, I have a right because I'm grumpy. Well, I have a right to be grumpy because I didn't sleep to be grumpy because I didn't sleep to be grumpy because I didn't sleep well. When I turn it on its head, well. When I turn it on its head, well. When I turn it on its head, though, and say, "I believe God ordained though, and say, "I believe God ordained though, and say, "I believe God ordained my hip problem. I believe God can give my hip problem. I believe God can give my hip problem. I believe God can give me sleep if he wants to give me sleep. me sleep if he wants to give me sleep. me sleep if he wants to give me sleep. I, you know, I believe that he can give I, you know, I believe that he can give I, you know, I believe that he can give me everything I need to endure a lack of me everything I need to endure a lack of me everything I need to endure a lack of sleep today and not be grumpy and sleep today and not be grumpy and sleep today and not be grumpy and complainy." Okay, that flips it on its complainy." Okay, that flips it on its complainy." Okay, that flips it on its head for me. So what I was giving myself head for me. So what I was giving myself head for me. So what I was giving myself license for license for license for looking at it in the face of God's looking at it in the face of God's looking at it in the face of God's sovereignty sovereignty sovereignty changes how I view it. Like oh this is changes how I view it. Like oh this is changes how I view it. Like oh this is my classroom for today to do your will.

my classroom for today to do your will. my classroom for today to do your will. >> That's good. >> That's good. >> That's good. >> That's good. So okay as you're talking >> That's good. So okay as you're talking >> That's good. So okay as you're talking about that then what's the difference about that then what's the difference about that then what's the difference between being honest about the between being honest about the between being honest about the difficulty of our circumstances and difficulty of our circumstances and difficulty of our circumstances and covetousness? So for instance I mean covetousness? So for instance I mean covetousness? So for instance I mean it's hard to be a single parent right? it's hard to be a single parent right? it's hard to be a single parent right? It's hard to have an unreliable car that It's hard to have an unreliable car that It's hard to have an unreliable car that doesn't work. Like, that's hard. And it doesn't work. Like, that's hard. And it doesn't work. Like, that's hard. And it would be easy to covet a car that works. would be easy to covet a car that works. would be easy to covet a car that works. Like, it's hard to feel like you never Like, it's hard to feel like you never Like, it's hard to feel like you never get a nice vacation. Um, and then to get a nice vacation. Um, and then to get a nice vacation. Um, and then to covet the one of the people sitting at covet the one of the people sitting at covet the one of the people sitting at the beach or whatever. And so, how how the beach or whatever. And so, how how the beach or whatever. And so, how how do we just sit in that place of honesty? do we just sit in that place of honesty? do we just sit in that place of honesty? Like, this is hard. Like, this is hard. Like, this is hard. >> Um, and yet I don't want to covet as a >> Um, and yet I don't want to covet as a >> Um, and yet I don't want to covet as a result. result. result. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Like it must be nice for people not to >> Like it must be nice for people not to >> Like it must be nice for people not to have hip pain. I think about the have hip pain. I think about the have hip pain. I think about the Hamilton song all the time like it must Hamilton song all the time like it must Hamilton song all the time like it must be nice because that's that's another be nice because that's that's another be nice because that's that's another red flag, right? Well, it must be nice. red flag, right? Well, it must be nice. red flag, right? Well, it must be nice. Must be nice to have, you know, whatever Must be nice to have, you know, whatever Must be nice to have, you know, whatever it is. it is. it is. >> I'd like your problems. I'd like your >> I'd like your problems. I'd like your >> I'd like your problems. I'd like your problem. You know, like when you Yeah. problem. You know, like when you Yeah. problem. You know, like when you Yeah. Like I mean, we all kind of struggle Like I mean, we all kind of struggle Like I mean, we all kind of struggle with that little itch when someone comes with that little itch when someone comes with that little itch when someone comes back from vacation. I'm so tired. I'm back from vacation. I'm so tired. I'm back from vacation. I'm so tired. I'm like tired.

like tired. like tired. >> Their vacation wore them out. >> Their vacation wore them out. >> Their vacation wore them out. >> And I do the same thing. I mean, like >> And I do the same thing. I mean, like >> And I do the same thing. I mean, like I'm doing the same thing. I'm doing the same thing. I'm doing the same thing. >> Yeah, that's a really good question. It >> Yeah, that's a really good question. It >> Yeah, that's a really good question. It has changed how I ask for prayer has changed how I ask for prayer has changed how I ask for prayer requests. requests. requests. >> Um because sometimes if you've ever been >> Um because sometimes if you've ever been >> Um because sometimes if you've ever been in a Bible study prayer group, you're in a Bible study prayer group, you're in a Bible study prayer group, you're like, "Did this just become a complaint like, "Did this just become a complaint like, "Did this just become a complaint fest?" fest?" fest?" >> Like we're all just like, "Let me tell >> Like we're all just like, "Let me tell >> Like we're all just like, "Let me tell you my hard thing. Let murmur murmur." >> Whereas I've changed it to be like I I >> Whereas I've changed it to be like I I think it's totally okay for us to cry think it's totally okay for us to cry think it's totally okay for us to cry out to God, to lament to God, to say, out to God, to lament to God, to say, out to God, to lament to God, to say, "Hey, this is hard." Um, you know, like "Hey, this is hard." Um, you know, like "Hey, this is hard." Um, you know, like to be able to say, "Hey, Courtney and to be able to say, "Hey, Courtney and to be able to say, "Hey, Courtney and Jackie, will y'all pray for my head, but Jackie, will y'all pray for my head, but Jackie, will y'all pray for my head, but in the meantime, will you pray that I'm in the meantime, will you pray that I'm in the meantime, will you pray that I'm loving to my family in the midst of it? loving to my family in the midst of it? loving to my family in the midst of it? That's my my sin problem needs to be That's my my sin problem needs to be That's my my sin problem needs to be addressed, too." addressed, too." addressed, too." >> And that God uses this hard thing to >> And that God uses this hard thing to >> And that God uses this hard thing to conform Christ in me. conform Christ in me. conform Christ in me. >> Yes. Like, yeah. >> Yes. Like, yeah. >> Yes. Like, yeah. >> Yeah. I remember um >> Yeah. I remember um >> Yeah. I remember um I I had a really difficult season a year I I had a really difficult season a year I I had a really difficult season a year ago just with a lot of like ago just with a lot of like ago just with a lot of like sadness, despair. Um, and Psalm 88 was a sadness, despair. Um, and Psalm 88 was a sadness, despair. Um, and Psalm 88 was a really great psalm for me cuz I just really great psalm for me cuz I just really great psalm for me cuz I just really love that it was just so really love that it was just so really love that it was just so depressing and it did not end well. He depressing and it did not end well. He depressing and it did not end well. He just it doesn't conclude with a bow.

just it doesn't conclude with a bow. just it doesn't conclude with a bow. It's just like, yeah, I just kind of It's just like, yeah, I just kind of It's just like, yeah, I just kind of feel like you're not listening to me and feel like you're not listening to me and feel like you're not listening to me and you know, death responds to me and all you know, death responds to me and all you know, death responds to me and all and it ends. It just goes to Psalm 889 and it ends. It just goes to Psalm 889 and it ends. It just goes to Psalm 889 and that's it. And I'm like, hey, I feel and that's it. And I'm like, hey, I feel and that's it. And I'm like, hey, I feel that. And Tim Geller has a sermon on that. And Tim Geller has a sermon on that. And Tim Geller has a sermon on that text and he says, "Sometimes we can that text and he says, "Sometimes we can that text and he says, "Sometimes we can feel as if being honest with God about feel as if being honest with God about feel as if being honest with God about how we feel in hard seasons or no, we how we feel in hard seasons or no, we how we feel in hard seasons or no, we can read Psalm 88 and feel as if it's can read Psalm 88 and feel as if it's can read Psalm 88 and feel as if it's irreverent, feel as if he's being too irreverent, feel as if he's being too irreverent, feel as if he's being too transparent, feel as if what he's saying transparent, feel as if what he's saying transparent, feel as if what he's saying shouldn't be said." He was like, "But shouldn't be said." He was like, "But shouldn't be said." He was like, "But the difference is everything he's saying the difference is everything he's saying the difference is everything he's saying he's saying to God." he's saying to God." he's saying to God." And I think that has been good to me in And I think that has been good to me in And I think that has been good to me in seasons and moments of discontentment is seasons and moments of discontentment is seasons and moments of discontentment is that before I say anything that I got to that before I say anything that I got to that before I say anything that I got to say to anybody, I'mma say that thing to say to anybody, I'mma say that thing to say to anybody, I'mma say that thing to God. God. God. >> Now, I don't I don't know if you like >> Now, I don't I don't know if you like >> Now, I don't I don't know if you like what I'm about to say, but this is hard. what I'm about to say, but this is hard. what I'm about to say, but this is hard. I don't like it. I'm frustrated. They I don't like it. I'm frustrated. They I don't like it. I'm frustrated. They got that like I'm I'mma just say all the got that like I'm I'mma just say all the got that like I'm I'mma just say all the things. I'mma just say I'mma cry. I'mma things. I'mma just say I'mma cry. I'mma things. I'mma just say I'mma cry. I'mma lament. I'mma complain. I'm I'm I'mma lament. I'mma complain. I'm I'm I'mma lament. I'mma complain. I'm I'm I'mma complain with respect and then I'm going complain with respect and then I'm going complain with respect and then I'm going to I'm going to confess what I know to to I'm going to confess what I know to to I'm going to confess what I know to be true about you. I know that you know be true about you. I know that you know be true about you. I know that you know me. I know that you see me. I know that me. I know that you see me. I know that me. I know that you see me. I know that you're a provider. I know that you're you're a provider. I know that you're you're a provider. I know that you're faithful. And somehow in that mix, he faithful. And somehow in that mix, he faithful. And somehow in that mix, he comes to my aid. And so I do I think comes to my aid. And so I do I think comes to my aid. And so I do I think that is one of the ways that we can be that is one of the ways that we can be that is one of the ways that we can be honest, find contentment is in prayer.

honest, find contentment is in prayer. honest, find contentment is in prayer. But a particular kind of prayer, I think But a particular kind of prayer, I think But a particular kind of prayer, I think that's lament. that's lament. that's lament. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> that's good. That's good. Uh, somebody, >> that's good. That's good. Uh, somebody, >> that's good. That's good. Uh, somebody, again, I'm borrowing this from someone again, I'm borrowing this from someone again, I'm borrowing this from someone and I'm gonna butcher it probably. It and I'm gonna butcher it probably. It and I'm gonna butcher it probably. It said, um, murmuring is or, you know, said, um, murmuring is or, you know, said, um, murmuring is or, you know, lament is is complaining to God. Um, lament is is complaining to God. Um, lament is is complaining to God. Um, murmuring is complaining about God. murmuring is complaining about God. murmuring is complaining about God. You know, like like pouring our heart You know, like like pouring our heart You know, like like pouring our heart out to God is lament like what you were out to God is lament like what you were out to God is lament like what you were saying. And Jackie, you know what's saying. And Jackie, you know what's saying. And Jackie, you know what's crazy? That sermon from Tim. I I was crazy? That sermon from Tim. I I was crazy? That sermon from Tim. I I was there when he preached that one. I got there when he preached that one. I got there when he preached that one. I got to hear that one in person. to hear that one in person. to hear that one in person. >> I mean, when you said it, I was like, I >> I mean, when you said it, I was like, I >> I mean, when you said it, I was like, I know exactly this one because I'd never know exactly this one because I'd never know exactly this one because I'd never thought about that psalm that there was thought about that psalm that there was thought about that psalm that there was no bow until I heard him preach that no bow until I heard him preach that no bow until I heard him preach that sermon, whatever. Anyway, so sermon, whatever. Anyway, so sermon, whatever. Anyway, so >> I listened to it three times. >> I listened to it three times. >> I listened to it three times. >> Um, it's really good. Um, we should put >> Um, it's really good. Um, we should put >> Um, it's really good. Um, we should put it in the show notes because it is it in the show notes because it is it in the show notes because it is really good. Um, and there's a quote really good. Um, and there's a quote really good. Um, and there's a quote from from from Deuts from a Russian author, I can't say Deuts from a Russian author, I can't say Deuts from a Russian author, I can't say his name in there that I love as well. his name in there that I love as well. his name in there that I love as well. Um, anyway, but I think that's such a Um, anyway, but I think that's such a Um, anyway, but I think that's such a different attitude of the heart because different attitude of the heart because different attitude of the heart because when you look at the Israelites in the when you look at the Israelites in the when you look at the Israelites in the desert, what are they doing? They're desert, what are they doing? They're desert, what are they doing? They're constantly comparing back, oh yeah, constantly comparing back, oh yeah, constantly comparing back, oh yeah, remember back in Egypt, we had pals of remember back in Egypt, we had pals of remember back in Egypt, we had pals of meat, we had all this good stuff.

meat, we had all this good stuff. meat, we had all this good stuff. They're complaining about what God's They're complaining about what God's They're complaining about what God's done and they're forgetting his done and they're forgetting his done and they're forgetting his benefits. You know, you're saying benefits. You know, you're saying benefits. You know, you're saying slavery was better than walking with slavery was better than walking with slavery was better than walking with you. you. you. >> And essentially, we're saying slavery to >> And essentially, we're saying slavery to >> And essentially, we're saying slavery to sin is better than walking with you when sin is better than walking with you when sin is better than walking with you when Yeah. when we when we murmur. Yeah. when we when we murmur. Yeah. when we when we murmur. >> Oh. Well, so, okay, just to kind of tie >> Oh. Well, so, okay, just to kind of tie >> Oh. Well, so, okay, just to kind of tie this up. I mean, we've been talking this up. I mean, we've been talking this up. I mean, we've been talking about the fact that discontentment that about the fact that discontentment that about the fact that discontentment that like spending enough time quietly with like spending enough time quietly with like spending enough time quietly with the Lord to let this sort of bubble to the Lord to let this sort of bubble to the Lord to let this sort of bubble to the surface to see what's actually in the surface to see what's actually in the surface to see what's actually in our hearts because it's in all of it, our hearts because it's in all of it, our hearts because it's in all of it, all of us. And that covetousness is like all of us. And that covetousness is like all of us. And that covetousness is like this foundation for all these other sins this foundation for all these other sins this foundation for all these other sins or an umbrella like you said, Melissa, or an umbrella like you said, Melissa, or an umbrella like you said, Melissa, that that really reveals all or or helps that that really reveals all or or helps that that really reveals all or or helps us understand all of these other sins. us understand all of these other sins. us understand all of these other sins. But then as we press into like taking But then as we press into like taking But then as we press into like taking our very real um laments and our very real um laments and our very real um laments and frustrations and confusion and sadness frustrations and confusion and sadness frustrations and confusion and sadness to the Lord and letting him meet us in to the Lord and letting him meet us in to the Lord and letting him meet us in it that he would I mean I'm just going it that he would I mean I'm just going it that he would I mean I'm just going back to Psalm 16 again and again. It's back to Psalm 16 again and again. It's back to Psalm 16 again and again. It's the thing that I sit before the Lord and the thing that I sit before the Lord and the thing that I sit before the Lord and I say it's like speaking that truth back I say it's like speaking that truth back I say it's like speaking that truth back to him that you were talking about to him that you were talking about to him that you were talking about Jackie. The lines have fallen for me in Jackie. The lines have fallen for me in Jackie. The lines have fallen for me in pleasant places. like I don't want to pleasant places. like I don't want to pleasant places. like I don't want to forget all his benefits and I want to forget all his benefits and I want to forget all his benefits and I want to live within these boundary lines that he live within these boundary lines that he live within these boundary lines that he has set and I want my heart to be so has set and I want my heart to be so has set and I want my heart to be so deeply content with what he's given and deeply content with what he's given and deeply content with what he's given and what he's chosen not to give because what he's chosen not to give because what he's chosen not to give because that's like that's the trajectory that's that's like that's the trajectory that's that's like that's the trajectory that's the goal is to be content with both the

the goal is to be content with both the the goal is to be content with both the things he's given and sometimes he gives things he's given and sometimes he gives things he's given and sometimes he gives hard things so I want to be content not hard things so I want to be content not hard things so I want to be content not just in the good things I want to be just in the good things I want to be just in the good things I want to be content in the hard things and I want to content in the hard things and I want to content in the hard things and I want to be content in what he's not given the be content in what he's not given the be content in what he's not given the stuff that I really want that he has stuff that I really want that he has stuff that I really want that he has sovereignly and wisely and lovingly said sovereignly and wisely and lovingly said sovereignly and wisely and lovingly said that's not yours. That is not yours. And that's not yours. That is not yours. And that's not yours. That is not yours. And so like this whole this whole so like this whole this whole so like this whole this whole conversation is helping me like really conversation is helping me like really conversation is helping me like really press into that. press into that. press into that. >> Can I follow up on one thing? >> Can I follow up on one thing? >> Can I follow up on one thing? >> Oh yeah. Before we before we get to the >> Oh yeah. Before we before we get to the >> Oh yeah. Before we before we get to the wrap-up, I just want to say what you're wrap-up, I just want to say what you're wrap-up, I just want to say what you're saying, Courtney, about the lines saying, Courtney, about the lines saying, Courtney, about the lines falling for me in pleasant places. It is falling for me in pleasant places. It is falling for me in pleasant places. It is the cry of the Christian. Mhm. the cry of the Christian. Mhm. the cry of the Christian. Mhm. >> Meaning no matter if everything is taken >> Meaning no matter if everything is taken >> Meaning no matter if everything is taken from us, everything, we will never lose from us, everything, we will never lose from us, everything, we will never lose Christ. Christ. Christ. >> And so to me, the only way to have >> And so to me, the only way to have >> And so to me, the only way to have present contentment is you look at the present contentment is you look at the present contentment is you look at the past at the cross and you say, "My soul past at the cross and you say, "My soul past at the cross and you say, "My soul has been ransomed." And you look ahead has been ransomed." And you look ahead has been ransomed." And you look ahead to heaven and you say, "That's my home to heaven and you say, "That's my home to heaven and you say, "That's my home and it's coming." And that steadies and and it's coming." And that steadies and and it's coming." And that steadies and anchors us here. anchors us here. anchors us here. >> It's a past thing that's been won and a >> It's a past thing that's been won and a >> It's a past thing that's been won and a present reality that's coming. And present reality that's coming. And present reality that's coming. And that's going to steady us. That's what that's going to steady us. That's what that's going to steady us. That's what we can always say and this is unique to we can always say and this is unique to we can always say and this is unique to the Christian.

the Christian. the Christian. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Honestly, the non-Christian cannot say >> Honestly, the non-Christian cannot say >> Honestly, the non-Christian cannot say the lines have fallen for me in pleasant the lines have fallen for me in pleasant the lines have fallen for me in pleasant places. If they are billionaires, they places. If they are billionaires, they places. If they are billionaires, they cannot say it. cannot say it. cannot say it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Only the Christian is safe. >> Only the Christian is safe. >> Only the Christian is safe. >> Like only the Christian can say that >> Like only the Christian can say that >> Like only the Christian can say that psalm. And anyway, I just wanted to say psalm. And anyway, I just wanted to say psalm. And anyway, I just wanted to say because I think it's so rooted in our because I think it's so rooted in our because I think it's so rooted in our souls being one. Um because I think I'm souls being one. Um because I think I'm souls being one. Um because I think I'm I'm tempted to look and be like, "Well, I'm tempted to look and be like, "Well, I'm tempted to look and be like, "Well, Courtney's got a little bit better Courtney's got a little bit better Courtney's got a little bit better boundary lines than me, you know, or boundary lines than me, you know, or boundary lines than me, you know, or Jackie's got better boundary, you know." Jackie's got better boundary, you know." Jackie's got better boundary, you know." Whereas, no, no, no. If it's Christ, Whereas, no, no, no. If it's Christ, Whereas, no, no, no. If it's Christ, we're all sharing the same boundary we're all sharing the same boundary we're all sharing the same boundary lines. lines. lines. >> Mhm. I know. I ask him all the time. I >> Mhm. I know. I ask him all the time. I >> Mhm. I know. I ask him all the time. I think about like reveal to me what I think about like reveal to me what I think about like reveal to me what I love most that you've given love most that you've given love most that you've given >> and then >> and then >> and then >> let me sit in >> let me sit in >> let me sit in >> what would happen to me if you took it >> what would happen to me if you took it >> what would happen to me if you took it away. You know, like I do not want my away. You know, like I do not want my away. You know, like I do not want my identity to be in what he's given the identity to be in what he's given the identity to be in what he's given the things that I love most. And it's that's things that I love most. And it's that's things that I love most. And it's that's like like like >> that's good. >> that's good. >> that's good. >> Now you cry. Make me feel >> Now you cry. Make me feel >> Now you cry. Make me feel >> I know. I know. >> I know. I know. >> I know. I know. Oh. Oh Lord, sanctify us. Sanctify us.

Oh. Oh Lord, sanctify us. Sanctify us. Oh. Oh Lord, sanctify us. Sanctify us. Sanctify us. Sanctify us. Um Sanctify us. Sanctify us. Um Sanctify us. Sanctify us. Um >> good. >> good. >> good. >> Okay. Well, I do want to ask you a fun >> Okay. Well, I do want to ask you a fun >> Okay. Well, I do want to ask you a fun question, Jackie, but you also before question, Jackie, but you also before question, Jackie, but you also before you answer it can can uh wrap this up you answer it can can uh wrap this up you answer it can can uh wrap this up and add whatever you want to it. But my and add whatever you want to it. But my and add whatever you want to it. But my fun question is tell us something that fun question is tell us something that fun question is tell us something that you coveted as a kid that didn't live up you coveted as a kid that didn't live up you coveted as a kid that didn't live up to the hype. to the hype. to the hype. >> Probably driving. >> Probably driving. >> Probably driving. >> Driving. >> Driving. >> Driving. >> Yeah. I don't see that coming. That's the only thing I see that coming. That's the only thing I can remember right now in this moment. can remember right now in this moment. can remember right now in this moment. >> You think we covered it at some girl's >> You think we covered it at some girl's >> You think we covered it at some girl's shoes or belt? Like I had this friend shoes or belt? Like I had this friend shoes or belt? Like I had this friend who had a it was like a big white belt who had a it was like a big white belt who had a it was like a big white belt with all these Disney characters around with all these Disney characters around with all these Disney characters around it and I was like, "Dang, if I could it and I was like, "Dang, if I could it and I was like, "Dang, if I could have a belt like that, I'd be the have a belt like that, I'd be the have a belt like that, I'd be the coolest kid in the classroom." coolest kid in the classroom." coolest kid in the classroom." No, because I it's not that like I was I No, because I it's not that like I was I No, because I it's not that like I was I didn't want a lot as a kid. Um, in a didn't want a lot as a kid. Um, in a didn't want a lot as a kid. Um, in a sense like maybe cuz the things I did sense like maybe cuz the things I did sense like maybe cuz the things I did want I would either get or my mother want I would either get or my mother want I would either get or my mother made me work for it.

made me work for it. made me work for it. >> And so if I couldn't get it, she's like >> And so if I couldn't get it, she's like >> And so if I couldn't get it, she's like work for it and I would work for it to work for it and I would work for it to work for it and I would work for it to get it. So there was this interplay of get it. So there was this interplay of get it. So there was this interplay of she provided and I just did what I had she provided and I just did what I had she provided and I just did what I had to do to get that thing. So the one to do to get that thing. So the one to do to get that thing. So the one thing I find I found ways to satisfy it. thing I find I found ways to satisfy it. thing I find I found ways to satisfy it. >> Um and so which is interesting. I might >> Um and so which is interesting. I might >> Um and so which is interesting. I might explore that in my brain when I get off explore that in my brain when I get off explore that in my brain when I get off of how of how of how >> there can be some frustration thing when >> there can be some frustration thing when >> there can be some frustration thing when I can't strategize my way into getting I can't strategize my way into getting I can't strategize my way into getting what I want. what I want. what I want. >> Yeah. Um, but I think I think driving I >> Yeah. Um, but I think I think driving I >> Yeah. Um, but I think I think driving I I just remember wanting to leave the I just remember wanting to leave the I just remember wanting to leave the house and get a car because I remember house and get a car because I remember house and get a car because I remember all of my friends had cars and that all of my friends had cars and that all of my friends had cars and that frustrated me. Like everybody when they frustrated me. Like everybody when they frustrated me. Like everybody when they turned 16, their parents bought them a turned 16, their parents bought them a turned 16, their parents bought them a car. My mother did not have that kind of car. My mother did not have that kind of car. My mother did not have that kind of finances. And so I just I just so finances. And so I just I just so finances. And so I just I just so unfair. I'm like, "Y'all got cell unfair. I'm like, "Y'all got cell unfair. I'm like, "Y'all got cell phones, she wouldn't give me a cell phones, she wouldn't give me a cell phones, she wouldn't give me a cell phone. Y'all got cars. I didn't have a phone. Y'all got cars. I didn't have a phone. Y'all got cars. I didn't have a car." Really? That was protection on so car." Really? That was protection on so car." Really? That was protection on so many levels. But now as a 36 year old many levels. But now as a 36 year old many levels. But now as a 36 year old with a car living in Atlanta where with a car living in Atlanta where with a car living in Atlanta where everything is 30, 45 minutes away, I everything is 30, 45 minutes away, I everything is 30, 45 minutes away, I don't actually want to drive that much.

don't actually want to drive that much. don't actually want to drive that much. >> That's true. >> That's true. >> That's true. >> You understand what I'm saying? I don't >> You understand what I'm saying? I don't >> You understand what I'm saying? I don't want want want >> I don't want that Disney belt anymore. >> I don't want that Disney belt anymore. >> I don't want that Disney belt anymore. >> I don't want to drive that much. I don't >> I don't want to drive that much. I don't >> I don't want to drive that much. I don't want I don't I don't want I don't want want I don't I don't want I don't want want I don't I don't want I don't want to be putting these car seats in and out to be putting these car seats in and out to be putting these car seats in and out all the time. I don't want to be filling all the time. I don't want to be filling all the time. I don't want to be filling up this You know how much it cost to up this You know how much it cost to up this You know how much it cost to fill up the tank? I glory be to God that fill up the tank? I glory be to God that fill up the tank? I glory be to God that he gave me gas money. he gave me gas money. he gave me gas money. >> This is where we give him praise. Thank >> This is where we give him praise. Thank >> This is where we give him praise. Thank you, Lord, for gas money. But I just you, Lord, for gas money. But I just you, Lord, for gas money. But I just >> I I thought in 2025, the way the movies >> I I thought in 2025, the way the movies >> I I thought in 2025, the way the movies were set up in the 80s, I thought we'd were set up in the 80s, I thought we'd were set up in the 80s, I thought we'd be flying by now. be flying by now. be flying by now. >> Well, we're about to. >> Well, we're about to. >> Well, we're about to. >> But it said we got artificial >> But it said we got artificial >> But it said we got artificial intelligence. I thought we'd be flying, intelligence. I thought we'd be flying, intelligence. I thought we'd be flying, but we're but we're but we're >> selfed cars. I know. >> selfed cars. I know. >> selfed cars. I know. >> I'm disappointed. >> I'm disappointed. >> I'm disappointed. >> I know. >> I know. >> I know. >> I know. >> I know. >> I know. >> So, >> So, >> So, >> that's good. >> that's good. >> that's good. >> Here we are. >> Here we are. >> Here we are. >> That's good. Well friends, we hope that >> That's good. Well friends, we hope that >> That's good. Well friends, we hope that you have enjoyed this episode of the you have enjoyed this episode of the you have enjoyed this episode of the deep dish from the gospel coalition. If deep dish from the gospel coalition. If deep dish from the gospel coalition. If you have found this helpful, please you have found this helpful, please you have found this helpful, please consider sharing it, like us, leave us consider sharing it, like us, leave us consider sharing it, like us, leave us comments. Let us enter into this comments. Let us enter into this comments. Let us enter into this conversation with you about how you are conversation with you about how you are conversation with you about how you are combating covetousness in your own combating covetousness in your own combating covetousness in your own heart. And we will see you next time.