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The Interview January 28, 2026

Chloé Zhao Made ‘Hamnet’ During a Midlife Crisis

Summary

The transcript explores a personal journey through a profound midlife transformation, focusing on confronting deep-seated fears of death and impermanence. The speaker describes becoming a death doula as a response to a lifelong terror of death that has limited her ability to live and love fully, viewing her current life stage as a metaphorical decomposition and rebirth. Through this challenging period of deconstruction, she has begun to develop a healthier relationship with mortality, seeing her midlife crisis as an opportunity for personal growth and renewal. The key takeaway is that facing one's deepest fears can lead to a more authentic and liberated existence, with the potential for significant personal transformation.

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