Impeachment Looms Over Trump After the Pentagon’s Leaked Nuclear Plans. Joe Kent on What Comes Next.

There's something about catastrophe There's something about catastrophe that's very difficult for the human that's very difficult for the human that's very difficult for the human brain to process. Something terrible brain to process. Something terrible brain to process. Something terrible happens and most people refuse to happens and most people refuse to happens and most people refuse to acknowledge it as it begins. Talk to acknowledge it as it begins. Talk to acknowledge it as it begins. Talk to anybody who's seen a shooting, for anybody who's seen a shooting, for anybody who's seen a shooting, for example, and they'll tell you, most of example, and they'll tell you, most of example, and they'll tell you, most of them will tell you if you interview them will tell you if you interview them will tell you if you interview them, I thought it was fireworks or a them, I thought it was fireworks or a them, I thought it was fireworks or a car backfiring. car backfiring. car backfiring. Most people perceive a house fire in the Most people perceive a house fire in the Most people perceive a house fire in the first moments as burning toast. Again, first moments as burning toast. Again, first moments as burning toast. Again, there's something about people that there's something about people that there's something about people that pushes away evidence of disaster. And so pushes away evidence of disaster. And so pushes away evidence of disaster. And so with that in mind, how would the average with that in mind, how would the average with that in mind, how would the average person assess the risk of nuclear war, person assess the risk of nuclear war, person assess the risk of nuclear war, which to state the obvious or what used which to state the obvious or what used which to state the obvious or what used to be obvious is the worst possible to be obvious is the worst possible to be obvious is the worst possible thing. A nuclear war ends inevitably in thing. A nuclear war ends inevitably in thing. A nuclear war ends inevitably in the destruction of all human life on the the destruction of all human life on the the destruction of all human life on the planet. So there's nothing worse than planet. So there's nothing worse than planet. So there's nothing worse than nuclear war. Ask your average American, nuclear war. Ask your average American, nuclear war. Ask your average American, are we close to nuclear war? And haven't are we close to nuclear war? And haven't are we close to nuclear war? And haven't seen polling on it, but nine out of 10 seen polling on it, but nine out of 10 seen polling on it, but nine out of 10 would almost certainly say, well, no, of would almost certainly say, well, no, of would almost certainly say, well, no, of course not, because it's just not course not, because it's just not course not, because it's just not imaginable.

imaginable. imaginable. And let's hope it remains unimaginable. And let's hope it remains unimaginable. And let's hope it remains unimaginable. But the evidence is mounting that some But the evidence is mounting that some But the evidence is mounting that some people are imagining it and therefore we people are imagining it and therefore we people are imagining it and therefore we are moving much closer to it. What's the are moving much closer to it. What's the are moving much closer to it. What's the evidence? Well, it's all around us. And evidence? Well, it's all around us. And evidence? Well, it's all around us. And it's only our unwillingness, our native it's only our unwillingness, our native it's only our unwillingness, our native hesitancy to add it all up that prevents hesitancy to add it all up that prevents hesitancy to add it all up that prevents us from seeing that. But here are a us from seeing that. But here are a us from seeing that. But here are a couple facts that might be worth couple facts that might be worth couple facts that might be worth considering if you're trying to assess, considering if you're trying to assess, considering if you're trying to assess, are we actually close to a nuclear war? are we actually close to a nuclear war? are we actually close to a nuclear war? Russia has revised its nuclear doctrine. Russia has revised its nuclear doctrine. Russia has revised its nuclear doctrine. Nuclear doctrine is exactly what it Nuclear doctrine is exactly what it Nuclear doctrine is exactly what it sounds like. It's the rules that a sounds like. It's the rules that a sounds like. It's the rules that a country sets for itself about when and country sets for itself about when and country sets for itself about when and under what circumstances it will use under what circumstances it will use under what circumstances it will use nuclear weapons. Most countries that nuclear weapons. Most countries that nuclear weapons. Most countries that possess nuclear weapons, not all, but possess nuclear weapons, not all, but possess nuclear weapons, not all, but most, have what's called a no first use most, have what's called a no first use most, have what's called a no first use policy. Meaning they pledge to the policy. Meaning they pledge to the policy. Meaning they pledge to the world, but also to themselves, we will world, but also to themselves, we will world, but also to themselves, we will not be the first to press the button. We not be the first to press the button. We not be the first to press the button. We will use nuclear weapons in defense will use nuclear weapons in defense will use nuclear weapons in defense only. Notably, the United States and only. Notably, the United States and only. Notably, the United States and Israel do not have a no first use Israel do not have a no first use Israel do not have a no first use policy. They have reserved the right to policy. They have reserved the right to policy. They have reserved the right to use nuclear weapons offensively if they use nuclear weapons offensively if they use nuclear weapons offensively if they so desire. But until very recently, no so desire. But until very recently, no so desire. But until very recently, no one imagined that the United States or one imagined that the United States or one imagined that the United States or Israel or any country would ever launch Israel or any country would ever launch Israel or any country would ever launch nuclear weapons unless nuclear weapons nuclear weapons unless nuclear weapons nuclear weapons unless nuclear weapons have been launched against them. And have been launched against them. And have been launched against them. And that's why for over 80 years, nuclear that's why for over 80 years, nuclear that's why for over 80 years, nuclear weapons have basically preserved the weapons have basically preserved the weapons have basically preserved the peace. Horrifying as they are, or peace. Horrifying as they are, or peace. Horrifying as they are, or perhaps because they are so horrifying, perhaps because they are so horrifying, perhaps because they are so horrifying, we haven't had a global war since 1945.

we haven't had a global war since 1945. we haven't had a global war since 1945. Because the idea is nobody would win. Because the idea is nobody would win. Because the idea is nobody would win. Mutually assured destruction is the Mutually assured destruction is the Mutually assured destruction is the phrase that people often used for this. phrase that people often used for this. phrase that people often used for this. And so it's a big change when states And so it's a big change when states And so it's a big change when states start to think about using nuclear start to think about using nuclear start to think about using nuclear weapons in the same way that you would weapons in the same way that you would weapons in the same way that you would use say artillery use say artillery use say artillery or bombs or missiles. or bombs or missiles. or bombs or missiles. That has never been considered before. That has never been considered before. That has never been considered before. But now clearly it is under But now clearly it is under But now clearly it is under consideration by a couple or maybe consideration by a couple or maybe consideration by a couple or maybe several different countries. And those several different countries. And those several different countries. And those would include Russia, the United States, would include Russia, the United States, would include Russia, the United States, and Israel. Again, how do we know that? and Israel. Again, how do we know that? and Israel. Again, how do we know that? Well, Russia has revised its nuclear Well, Russia has revised its nuclear Well, Russia has revised its nuclear doctrine. The United States is now in doctrine. The United States is now in doctrine. The United States is now in the process of revising its nuclear the process of revising its nuclear the process of revising its nuclear doctrine. As for Israel, well, the doctrine. As for Israel, well, the doctrine. As for Israel, well, the government of Israel and successive government of Israel and successive government of Israel and successive governments of Israel have over more governments of Israel have over more governments of Israel have over more than 50 years at various points than 50 years at various points than 50 years at various points threatened the use of offensive nuclear threatened the use of offensive nuclear threatened the use of offensive nuclear weapons. So, we sort of know that Israel weapons. So, we sort of know that Israel weapons. So, we sort of know that Israel is capable of that, at least if you take is capable of that, at least if you take is capable of that, at least if you take them at their word. But the United them at their word. But the United them at their word. But the United States is a country most Americans never States is a country most Americans never States is a country most Americans never imagined would seriously consider imagined would seriously consider imagined would seriously consider lobbing nukes into another country lobbing nukes into another country lobbing nukes into another country unless it was attacked first. But it is unless it was attacked first. But it is unless it was attacked first. But it is a fact that that is now under a fact that that is now under a fact that that is now under consideration.

consideration. consideration. And not just under consideration, it has And not just under consideration, it has And not just under consideration, it has been proposed in writing within the been proposed in writing within the been proposed in writing within the Pentagon. Reports in the last two weeks Pentagon. Reports in the last two weeks Pentagon. Reports in the last two weeks indicate that during meetings within the indicate that during meetings within the indicate that during meetings within the Pentagon about how to respond to Iran in Pentagon about how to respond to Iran in Pentagon about how to respond to Iran in that current war, the possibility, the that current war, the possibility, the that current war, the possibility, the option has been floated of using what option has been floated of using what option has been floated of using what are called tactical nuclear weapons, are called tactical nuclear weapons, are called tactical nuclear weapons, which are just nuclear weapons detonated which are just nuclear weapons detonated which are just nuclear weapons detonated at a higher altitude or at a lower at a higher altitude or at a lower at a higher altitude or at a lower strength, but they're still nuclear strength, but they're still nuclear strength, but they're still nuclear weapons. weapons. weapons. that discussions that discussions that discussions about their use have taken place in the about their use have taken place in the about their use have taken place in the Pentagon and we're here to confirm that Pentagon and we're here to confirm that Pentagon and we're here to confirm that that is absolutely true. And not only that is absolutely true. And not only that is absolutely true. And not only have there been discussions about the have there been discussions about the have there been discussions about the use of nuclear weapons, tactical nukes use of nuclear weapons, tactical nukes use of nuclear weapons, tactical nukes against say Car Island or Pickax against say Car Island or Pickax against say Car Island or Pickax Mountain or various spots within Iran, Mountain or various spots within Iran, Mountain or various spots within Iran, those discussions have included slide those discussions have included slide those discussions have included slide decks, which is to say somebody wrote decks, which is to say somebody wrote decks, which is to say somebody wrote down on a computer screen, hey, maybe we down on a computer screen, hey, maybe we down on a computer screen, hey, maybe we should use nuclear weapons in this war, should use nuclear weapons in this war, should use nuclear weapons in this war, this war of choice, this war that we this war of choice, this war that we this war of choice, this war that we started for objectives that have nothing started for objectives that have nothing started for objectives that have nothing to do with America's national security to do with America's national security to do with America's national security or national interest.

or national interest. or national interest. Now, you would think at that point Now, you would think at that point Now, you would think at that point the meeting would stop and the person in the meeting would stop and the person in the meeting would stop and the person in charge of the meeting would say, "Who charge of the meeting would say, "Who charge of the meeting would say, "Who wrote that? Who's suggesting that? Who wrote that? Who's suggesting that? Who wrote that? Who's suggesting that? Who actually put on a screen in letters in actually put on a screen in letters in actually put on a screen in letters in English the idea that we would use English the idea that we would use English the idea that we would use nuclear weapons nuclear weapons nuclear weapons in the Persian Gulf and the person in the Persian Gulf and the person in the Persian Gulf and the person running the meeting would find out. Then running the meeting would find out. Then running the meeting would find out. Then he would call the president and then he would call the president and then he would call the president and then legal proceedings, criminal proceedings legal proceedings, criminal proceedings legal proceedings, criminal proceedings would begin against the person who wrote would begin against the person who wrote would begin against the person who wrote that down." Because anyone who suggests that down." Because anyone who suggests that down." Because anyone who suggests the use, the voluntary use, the the use, the voluntary use, the the use, the voluntary use, the offensive use of nuclear weapons is offensive use of nuclear weapons is offensive use of nuclear weapons is putting at risk the life of every person putting at risk the life of every person putting at risk the life of every person on the planet. And that would include on the planet. And that would include on the planet. And that would include your children and grandchildren and you. your children and grandchildren and you. your children and grandchildren and you. That person is by definition a lunatic, That person is by definition a lunatic, That person is by definition a lunatic, a dangerous lunatic who should not only a dangerous lunatic who should not only a dangerous lunatic who should not only be removed from any decision-making be removed from any decision-making be removed from any decision-making authority, but probably should go to authority, but probably should go to authority, but probably should go to jail like immediately, especially in a jail like immediately, especially in a jail like immediately, especially in a country that routinely puts people in country that routinely puts people in country that routinely puts people in jail for, I don't know, tax evasion. The jail for, I don't know, tax evasion. The jail for, I don't know, tax evasion. The guy who suggests ending life on this guy who suggests ending life on this guy who suggests ending life on this planet probably should face some kind of planet probably should face some kind of planet probably should face some kind of sanction. And the rest of us should join sanction. And the rest of us should join sanction. And the rest of us should join in in saying that's not acceptable. And in in saying that's not acceptable. And in in saying that's not acceptable. And again, anyone who suggests that is again, anyone who suggests that is again, anyone who suggests that is dangerous, is a crazy person, is in fact dangerous, is a crazy person, is in fact dangerous, is a crazy person, is in fact a criminal because that's true. People a criminal because that's true. People a criminal because that's true. People who suggest killing every human being who suggest killing every human being who suggest killing every human being are criminals.

are criminals. are criminals. But nobody said that. in part because But nobody said that. in part because But nobody said that. in part because the president of the United States has the president of the United States has the president of the United States has repeatedly suggested using nuclear repeatedly suggested using nuclear repeatedly suggested using nuclear weapons in the war against Iran. Now, if weapons in the war against Iran. Now, if weapons in the war against Iran. Now, if you were to pose this question to the you were to pose this question to the you were to pose this question to the White House press office, they would say White House press office, they would say White House press office, they would say the president has never suggested using the president has never suggested using the president has never suggested using nukes. But of course, that's not true nukes. But of course, that's not true nukes. But of course, that's not true because in statement after statement because in statement after statement because in statement after statement post on the internet on true social, the post on the internet on true social, the post on the internet on true social, the president has threatened the total president has threatened the total president has threatened the total destruction of Iran, of the civilization destruction of Iran, of the civilization destruction of Iran, of the civilization itself. And of course, you can't achieve itself. And of course, you can't achieve itself. And of course, you can't achieve that with any conventional weapon. that with any conventional weapon. that with any conventional weapon. There's only one way to achieve that, There's only one way to achieve that, There's only one way to achieve that, the total destruction of a civilization, the total destruction of a civilization, the total destruction of a civilization, and that's with nuclear weapons. And so and that's with nuclear weapons. And so and that's with nuclear weapons. And so openly in public for the world to see, openly in public for the world to see, openly in public for the world to see, the president has threatened, the US the president has threatened, the US the president has threatened, the US president has threatened the use of president has threatened the use of president has threatened the use of nuclear weapons in this war. nuclear weapons in this war. nuclear weapons in this war. And so we should consider that a real And so we should consider that a real And so we should consider that a real possibility. But of course, we don't possibility. But of course, we don't possibility. But of course, we don't because we can't metabolize something because we can't metabolize something because we can't metabolize something that horrible. that horrible. that horrible. So, in recent weeks, we've been hearing So, in recent weeks, we've been hearing So, in recent weeks, we've been hearing [snorts] [snorts] [snorts] that the situation that the situation that the situation in Russia, not in Iran, but in the war in Russia, not in Iran, but in the war in Russia, not in Iran, but in the war ongoing against Russia has deteriorated ongoing against Russia has deteriorated ongoing against Russia has deteriorated to the point that the Russians are to the point that the Russians are to the point that the Russians are considering using nuclear weapons. And considering using nuclear weapons. And considering using nuclear weapons. And so, we've done everything we could by so, we've done everything we could by so, we've done everything we could by calling people to find out, is that calling people to find out, is that calling people to find out, is that true?

true? true? And it's hard to know exactly if that's And it's hard to know exactly if that's And it's hard to know exactly if that's true. But here's the way to think about true. But here's the way to think about true. But here's the way to think about it. So the war in Russia, despite it. So the war in Russia, despite it. So the war in Russia, despite getting almost no attention in American getting almost no attention in American getting almost no attention in American media, is not only ongoing, but it's media, is not only ongoing, but it's media, is not only ongoing, but it's accelerating. That's the first thing to accelerating. That's the first thing to accelerating. That's the first thing to know. And it's accelerating because know. And it's accelerating because know. And it's accelerating because NATO, the United States, and the Western NATO, the United States, and the Western NATO, the United States, and the Western European powers are European powers are European powers are hitting targets, including civilian hitting targets, including civilian hitting targets, including civilian targets and energy targets deep within targets and energy targets deep within targets and energy targets deep within mainland Russia. That would include a mainland Russia. That would include a mainland Russia. That would include a school killing people on beaches with school killing people on beaches with school killing people on beaches with drones, hitting the Kremlin itself drones, hitting the Kremlin itself drones, hitting the Kremlin itself multiple times in drone attacks. So multiple times in drone attacks. So multiple times in drone attacks. So that's becoming more intense. Public that's becoming more intense. Public that's becoming more intense. Public opinion in Russia clearly is moving in a opinion in Russia clearly is moving in a opinion in Russia clearly is moving in a more bellose direction. There are more bellose direction. There are more bellose direction. There are elections underway in Russia right now elections underway in Russia right now elections underway in Russia right now which end September 20th, the Duma which end September 20th, the Duma which end September 20th, the Duma elections, the lawmakers elections. And elections, the lawmakers elections. And elections, the lawmakers elections. And it's very clear that more and more it's very clear that more and more it's very clear that more and more Russians, and it's hard to quantify this Russians, and it's hard to quantify this Russians, and it's hard to quantify this precisely, but are precisely, but are precisely, but are surprised and dismayed that their surprised and dismayed that their surprised and dismayed that their government is allowing attacks not by government is allowing attacks not by government is allowing attacks not by Ukraine, but by Ukraine sponsors NATO Ukraine, but by Ukraine sponsors NATO Ukraine, but by Ukraine sponsors NATO and the United States and the United States and the United States against Russia. And it's not destroying against Russia. And it's not destroying against Russia. And it's not destroying the Russian economy. We haven't been the Russian economy. We haven't been the Russian economy. We haven't been able to do that. But it is hurting the able to do that. But it is hurting the able to do that. But it is hurting the Russian economy. And of course, it is a Russian economy. And of course, it is a Russian economy. And of course, it is a threat to ordinary Russians. People are threat to ordinary Russians. People are threat to ordinary Russians. People are getting killed on beaches by drone

getting killed on beaches by drone getting killed on beaches by drone attacks paid for by the United States or attacks paid for by the United States or attacks paid for by the United States or NATO. NATO. NATO. And if those attacks are being targeted And if those attacks are being targeted And if those attacks are being targeted with coordinates given to the Ukrainians with coordinates given to the Ukrainians with coordinates given to the Ukrainians by the CIA, and that's exactly what's by the CIA, and that's exactly what's by the CIA, and that's exactly what's happening, then your average Russian is happening, then your average Russian is happening, then your average Russian is beginning to wonder why aren't we doing beginning to wonder why aren't we doing beginning to wonder why aren't we doing anything about this? And so there is anything about this? And so there is anything about this? And so there is mounting pressure on the leadership of mounting pressure on the leadership of mounting pressure on the leadership of that country. Vladimir Putin who despite that country. Vladimir Putin who despite that country. Vladimir Putin who despite American and Western propaganda is not American and Western propaganda is not American and Western propaganda is not an absolute totalitarian dictator which an absolute totalitarian dictator which an absolute totalitarian dictator which is to say he can't make any decision he is to say he can't make any decision he is to say he can't make any decision he wants. He is subject to the opinions wants. He is subject to the opinions wants. He is subject to the opinions influenced by the opinions of all kinds influenced by the opinions of all kinds influenced by the opinions of all kinds of different power centers within that of different power centers within that of different power centers within that country including public opinion. So the country including public opinion. So the country including public opinion. So the point is pressure is mounting on Putin point is pressure is mounting on Putin point is pressure is mounting on Putin to do something to stop these attacks on to do something to stop these attacks on to do something to stop these attacks on Russia. And of course the people Russia. And of course the people Russia. And of course the people mounting the attacks paying for them. mounting the attacks paying for them. mounting the attacks paying for them. It's not the Ukrainians by the way. It's not the Ukrainians by the way. It's not the Ukrainians by the way. There is no real Ukraine anymore. Its There is no real Ukraine anymore. Its There is no real Ukraine anymore. Its population has been decimated in this population has been decimated in this population has been decimated in this war. The big decisions are made by war. The big decisions are made by war. The big decisions are made by outside powers. Ukraine has no outside powers. Ukraine has no outside powers. Ukraine has no sovereignty, unfortunately for Ukraine.

sovereignty, unfortunately for Ukraine. sovereignty, unfortunately for Ukraine. But the people who are making the But the people who are making the But the people who are making the decisions, and that would include the decisions, and that would include the decisions, and that would include the CIA in the United States, the NSA in the CIA in the United States, the NSA in the CIA in the United States, the NSA in the United States, the heads of state of United States, the heads of state of United States, the heads of state of Great Britain and France and Germany and Great Britain and France and Germany and Great Britain and France and Germany and basically the rest of the West. Those basically the rest of the West. Those basically the rest of the West. Those people clearly understand that we're people clearly understand that we're people clearly understand that we're moving toward some sort of more open moving toward some sort of more open moving toward some sort of more open conflict with Russia. And that's kind of conflict with Russia. And that's kind of conflict with Russia. And that's kind of the point. Push Russia to do something the point. Push Russia to do something the point. Push Russia to do something radical against the West. Blow up Kiev, radical against the West. Blow up Kiev, radical against the West. Blow up Kiev, for example, the Ukrainian capital. Hit for example, the Ukrainian capital. Hit for example, the Ukrainian capital. Hit Poland, maybe even lob some kind of Poland, maybe even lob some kind of Poland, maybe even lob some kind of weapon into Western Europe. And at that weapon into Western Europe. And at that weapon into Western Europe. And at that point, you get what they've wanted since point, you get what they've wanted since point, you get what they've wanted since day one, which is an open war with day one, which is an open war with day one, which is an open war with Russia that they expect that they'll win Russia that they expect that they'll win Russia that they expect that they'll win somehow. which of course they won't. somehow. which of course they won't. somehow. which of course they won't. But the delusion that Western powers can But the delusion that Western powers can But the delusion that Western powers can control Russia by force is control Russia by force is control Russia by force is long-standing. I mean, many long-standing. I mean, many long-standing. I mean, many leaders have fallen to that delusion. leaders have fallen to that delusion. leaders have fallen to that delusion. Napoleon himself in 1812 famously Napoleon himself in 1812 famously Napoleon himself in 1812 famously invaded Russia, got all the way to invaded Russia, got all the way to invaded Russia, got all the way to Moscow, occupied Moscow for a month Moscow, occupied Moscow for a month Moscow, occupied Moscow for a month in 1812, and then retreated and in 1812, and then retreated and in 1812, and then retreated and destroyed the entire French army.

destroyed the entire French army. destroyed the entire French army. Hundreds of thousands of French soldiers Hundreds of thousands of French soldiers Hundreds of thousands of French soldiers died on the march back to Paris. But died on the march back to Paris. But died on the march back to Paris. But totally undeterred, crazed with hubris, totally undeterred, crazed with hubris, totally undeterred, crazed with hubris, Napoleon continued to pick other wars Napoleon continued to pick other wars Napoleon continued to pick other wars and in less than 3 years he was defeated and in less than 3 years he was defeated and in less than 3 years he was defeated finally famously in a fight with the finally famously in a fight with the finally famously in a fight with the Brits at Waterlue and died at 51 in Brits at Waterlue and died at 51 in Brits at Waterlue and died at 51 in exile and France was never again to this exile and France was never again to this exile and France was never again to this day a global power. So he destroyed day a global power. So he destroyed day a global power. So he destroyed France and the French Empire France and the French Empire France and the French Empire because he thought that he can control because he thought that he can control because he thought that he can control Russia through force. And of course you Russia through force. And of course you Russia through force. And of course you know know know 30 years later almost within living 30 years later almost within living 30 years later almost within living memory the German government under Adolf memory the German government under Adolf memory the German government under Adolf Hitler did exactly the same thing in Hitler did exactly the same thing in Hitler did exactly the same thing in operation Barbar Roa and marched all the operation Barbar Roa and marched all the operation Barbar Roa and marched all the way to Moscow once again and was once way to Moscow once again and was once way to Moscow once again and was once again totally destroyed. So there's again totally destroyed. So there's again totally destroyed. So there's something about Russia and the idea that something about Russia and the idea that something about Russia and the idea that outside powers can conquer it, take its outside powers can conquer it, take its outside powers can conquer it, take its resources or something, prevent it from resources or something, prevent it from resources or something, prevent it from becoming a global power that is very becoming a global power that is very becoming a global power that is very alluring to Western leaders. But there alluring to Western leaders. But there alluring to Western leaders. But there is zero track record of success. Now is zero track record of success. Now is zero track record of success. Now once again within living memory of the once again within living memory of the once again within living memory of the last attempt which was the German last attempt which was the German last attempt which was the German attempt in 1941 to do the same thing attempt in 1941 to do the same thing attempt in 1941 to do the same thing European and American leaders have European and American leaders have European and American leaders have decided that no this time it will be decided that no this time it will be decided that no this time it will be different and we will control Russia different and we will control Russia different and we will control Russia through force. But of course that's not through force. But of course that's not through force. But of course that's not going to happen. It will not work and it going to happen. It will not work and it going to happen. It will not work and it could lead to nuclear war. So in any could lead to nuclear war. So in any could lead to nuclear war. So in any case, we have been talking to as many case, we have been talking to as many case, we have been talking to as many people as we can about this and one of people as we can about this and one of people as we can about this and one of them we interviewed yesterday from

them we interviewed yesterday from them we interviewed yesterday from Moscow, Lena Sutzky, who is uh the Moscow, Lena Sutzky, who is uh the Moscow, Lena Sutzky, who is uh the leader of a political party in Russia, a leader of a political party in Russia, a leader of a political party in Russia, a sophisticated, very knowledgeable sophisticated, very knowledgeable sophisticated, very knowledgeable person. Um very well connected within person. Um very well connected within person. Um very well connected within Russia and to ask him how close are we Russia and to ask him how close are we Russia and to ask him how close are we to some kind of conflict? Most Americans to some kind of conflict? Most Americans to some kind of conflict? Most Americans are not paying attention. The American are not paying attention. The American are not paying attention. The American administration is totally distracted by administration is totally distracted by administration is totally distracted by the war with Iran. Do you think that we the war with Iran. Do you think that we the war with Iran. Do you think that we are moving toward some kind of nuclear are moving toward some kind of nuclear are moving toward some kind of nuclear conflict? Now, unfortunately, that conflict? Now, unfortunately, that conflict? Now, unfortunately, that interview is it's not possible to air interview is it's not possible to air interview is it's not possible to air most of it because it got screwed up by most of it because it got screwed up by most of it because it got screwed up by a translator. Um, but we're going to a translator. Um, but we're going to a translator. Um, but we're going to show you one clip. So, in this Slutzky show you one clip. So, in this Slutzky show you one clip. So, in this Slutzky says, look, says, look, says, look, we don't plan to use nuclear weapons we don't plan to use nuclear weapons we don't plan to use nuclear weapons unless and until some other power, some unless and until some other power, some unless and until some other power, some Western power sends nuclear weapons to Western power sends nuclear weapons to Western power sends nuclear weapons to Ukraine. Ukraine. Ukraine. Here he is. Here he is. Here he is. >> If tactical nuclear weapons supplied by >> If tactical nuclear weapons supplied by >> If tactical nuclear weapons supplied by Zalinsk's patrons are used against us, Zalinsk's patrons are used against us, Zalinsk's patrons are used against us, perhaps we will ultimately have to perhaps we will ultimately have to perhaps we will ultimately have to consider the possibility of taking consider the possibility of taking consider the possibility of taking asymmetric steps. But so far this has asymmetric steps. But so far this has asymmetric steps. But so far this has not happened. And I very much hope, I not happened. And I very much hope, I not happened. And I very much hope, I repeat, repeat, repeat, >> I very much hope it will not happen.

>> I very much hope it will not happen. >> I very much hope it will not happen. NATO sending nukes to Ukraine. NATO sending nukes to Ukraine. NATO sending nukes to Ukraine. Is there a crazier idea? Well, no, Is there a crazier idea? Well, no, Is there a crazier idea? Well, no, because of course this war began in the because of course this war began in the because of course this war began in the first place because Russia didn't want first place because Russia didn't want first place because Russia didn't want other people's nuclear weapons on its other people's nuclear weapons on its other people's nuclear weapons on its western border, its border with Ukraine. western border, its border with Ukraine. western border, its border with Ukraine. And it was the threat of that, the And it was the threat of that, the And it was the threat of that, the threat of Ukraine joining NATO, provoked threat of Ukraine joining NATO, provoked threat of Ukraine joining NATO, provoked by the Biden administration and by the Biden administration and by the Biden administration and administrations before Biden, including administrations before Biden, including administrations before Biden, including the Bush administration. It was that the Bush administration. It was that the Bush administration. It was that threat that pushed the Russians into threat that pushed the Russians into threat that pushed the Russians into invading eastern Ukraine. And the war, invading eastern Ukraine. And the war, invading eastern Ukraine. And the war, now more than four years old, is the now more than four years old, is the now more than four years old, is the result. And the deaths of hundreds of result. And the deaths of hundreds of result. And the deaths of hundreds of thousands, hundreds and hundreds of thousands, hundreds and hundreds of thousands, hundreds and hundreds of thousands, total unknown, but clearly thousands, total unknown, but clearly thousands, total unknown, but clearly the depopulation of Ukraine was the the depopulation of Ukraine was the the depopulation of Ukraine was the result. The total destruction of the result. The total destruction of the result. The total destruction of the nation of Ukraine was the result. And nation of Ukraine was the result. And nation of Ukraine was the result. And that was predictable. It was knowable. that was predictable. It was knowable. that was predictable. It was knowable. But less than 5 years later, we can say But less than 5 years later, we can say But less than 5 years later, we can say that if you push Russia hard enough that if you push Russia hard enough that if you push Russia hard enough and if you threaten to put nuclear and if you threaten to put nuclear and if you threaten to put nuclear weapons on its border, you will get a weapons on its border, you will get a weapons on its border, you will get a maximalist response. Of course, as you maximalist response. Of course, as you maximalist response. Of course, as you would from any power you tried to do would from any power you tried to do would from any power you tried to do that, too. So, the question is, are the that, too. So, the question is, are the that, too. So, the question is, are the European powers is the United States European powers is the United States European powers is the United States crazy enough to do something like that?

crazy enough to do something like that? crazy enough to do something like that? Well, of course. So, the two things to Well, of course. So, the two things to Well, of course. So, the two things to know, and we're going to speak to Joe know, and we're going to speak to Joe know, and we're going to speak to Joe Kent about this in just a minute, but Kent about this in just a minute, but Kent about this in just a minute, but the two things to know as you try to the two things to know as you try to the two things to know as you try to assess where is this all going is one, assess where is this all going is one, assess where is this all going is one, the United States, despite claims to the the United States, despite claims to the the United States, despite claims to the contrary, is in charge of the war contrary, is in charge of the war contrary, is in charge of the war against Russia. Is not a war to liberate against Russia. Is not a war to liberate against Russia. Is not a war to liberate Ukraine. Ukraine. Ukraine. No one in the West wants to liberate No one in the West wants to liberate No one in the West wants to liberate Ukraine. Of course, the United States Ukraine. Of course, the United States Ukraine. Of course, the United States sponsored a coup in Ukraine in 2014 to sponsored a coup in Ukraine in 2014 to sponsored a coup in Ukraine in 2014 to make certain that we could control its make certain that we could control its make certain that we could control its governance. So there's no interest at governance. So there's no interest at governance. So there's no interest at the policy-making level in any western the policy-making level in any western the policy-making level in any western [clears throat] country in allowing an [clears throat] country in allowing an [clears throat] country in allowing an autonomous sovereign Ukraine. We don't autonomous sovereign Ukraine. We don't autonomous sovereign Ukraine. We don't want that. We've never allowed it. So want that. We've never allowed it. So want that. We've never allowed it. So ignore those claims. This is not about ignore those claims. This is not about ignore those claims. This is not about liberating Ukraine. This is a war liberating Ukraine. This is a war liberating Ukraine. This is a war against Russia and its purpose is to against Russia and its purpose is to against Russia and its purpose is to separate Russia from Ukraine. Because as separate Russia from Ukraine. Because as separate Russia from Ukraine. Because as a big new Bjinski famously said, a big new Bjinski famously said, a big new Bjinski famously said, if you combine Russia and Ukraine, you if you combine Russia and Ukraine, you if you combine Russia and Ukraine, you have a superpower. the resources of have a superpower. the resources of have a superpower. the resources of Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, the manufacturing the manufacturing the manufacturing capacity of Russia, the size of Russia, capacity of Russia, the size of Russia, capacity of Russia, the size of Russia, you have by definition a superpower. So you have by definition a superpower. So you have by definition a superpower. So if you want to prevent Russia from if you want to prevent Russia from if you want to prevent Russia from becoming a superpower, you have to becoming a superpower, you have to becoming a superpower, you have to divide Russia from Ukraine. Of course, divide Russia from Ukraine. Of course, divide Russia from Ukraine. Of course, it's not as simple as saying so, but it's not as simple as saying so, but it's not as simple as saying so, but that has always been the object. And that has always been the object. And that has always been the object. And there are probably other motives here, there are probably other motives here, there are probably other motives here, complicated historic motives for what complicated historic motives for what complicated historic motives for what we're doing, ugly motives, we're doing, ugly motives, we're doing, ugly motives, motives that have to do very much with motives that have to do very much with motives that have to do very much with the reimposition of Christianity on the reimposition of Christianity on the reimposition of Christianity on Russia by Vladimir Putin over the last Russia by Vladimir Putin over the last Russia by Vladimir Putin over the last 26 years. But whatever the motive, you

26 years. But whatever the motive, you 26 years. But whatever the motive, you should know that the United States is should know that the United States is should know that the United States is now waging a war against Russia. That's now waging a war against Russia. That's now waging a war against Russia. That's just a fact. And there's a lot of just a fact. And there's a lot of just a fact. And there's a lot of pretending that, oh no, we're not. We pretending that, oh no, we're not. We pretending that, oh no, we're not. We can't control the Europeans. But that's can't control the Europeans. But that's can't control the Europeans. But that's a lie. And we know it's a lie because a a lie. And we know it's a lie because a a lie. And we know it's a lie because a couple of days ago, John Rackcliffe, couple of days ago, John Rackcliffe, couple of days ago, John Rackcliffe, who's the director of central who's the director of central who's the director of central intelligence, who runs the CIA, flew intelligence, who runs the CIA, flew intelligence, who runs the CIA, flew into Moscow on an American military into Moscow on an American military into Moscow on an American military plane. And we don't know exactly what plane. And we don't know exactly what plane. And we don't know exactly what the conversation was between Ratcliffe the conversation was between Ratcliffe the conversation was between Ratcliffe and his counterparts in Russia. But we and his counterparts in Russia. But we and his counterparts in Russia. But we do know because the CI has told us out do know because the CI has told us out do know because the CI has told us out loud that before he left, before the loud that before he left, before the loud that before he left, before the plane took off from, I think, Latafia, plane took off from, I think, Latafia, plane took off from, I think, Latafia, John Ratcliffe called the Ukrainians and John Ratcliffe called the Ukrainians and John Ratcliffe called the Ukrainians and told him to stop any offensive action told him to stop any offensive action told him to stop any offensive action against Russia for the time that he was against Russia for the time that he was against Russia for the time that he was there. He halted the Ukrainian offensive there. He halted the Ukrainian offensive there. He halted the Ukrainian offensive while he was in Moscow. Well, the person while he was in Moscow. Well, the person while he was in Moscow. Well, the person who can stop the fighting is in charge, who can stop the fighting is in charge, who can stop the fighting is in charge, of course, by definition. And so in of course, by definition. And so in of course, by definition. And so in doing that, John Radcliffe showed the doing that, John Radcliffe showed the doing that, John Radcliffe showed the rest of us who's actually running the rest of us who's actually running the rest of us who's actually running the war against Russia, and it's him. It's war against Russia, and it's him. It's war against Russia, and it's him. It's the Central Intelligence Agency and the the Central Intelligence Agency and the the Central Intelligence Agency and the Trump administration. The Trump Trump administration. The Trump Trump administration. The Trump administration is waging a war against administration is waging a war against administration is waging a war against Russia. And it's important to say that Russia. And it's important to say that Russia. And it's important to say that out loud in the United States because out loud in the United States because out loud in the United States because most people don't know it here, but in most people don't know it here, but in most people don't know it here, but in the rest of the world and certainly the rest of the world and certainly the rest of the world and certainly within Russia, everybody knows it.

within Russia, everybody knows it. within Russia, everybody knows it. So once you start waging a war against So once you start waging a war against So once you start waging a war against the country with the world's largest the country with the world's largest the country with the world's largest nuclear arsenal, there are risks nuclear arsenal, there are risks nuclear arsenal, there are risks involved of course involved of course involved of course and the main risk to you if you're an and the main risk to you if you're an and the main risk to you if you're an American is you don't even know what's American is you don't even know what's American is you don't even know what's happening. And so it's impossible to happening. And so it's impossible to happening. And so it's impossible to protest against it. To protest against protest against it. To protest against protest against it. To protest against the risk that is being imposed on you, the risk that is being imposed on you, the risk that is being imposed on you, the risk of the total destruction of the risk of the total destruction of the risk of the total destruction of your country and the world, the death of your country and the world, the death of your country and the world, the death of your children. That's exactly what your children. That's exactly what your children. That's exactly what they're risking. So that's the first they're risking. So that's the first they're risking. So that's the first thing to know. The second thing to know thing to know. The second thing to know thing to know. The second thing to know is that powers, nations like people is that powers, nations like people is that powers, nations like people become much more dangerous when they become much more dangerous when they become much more dangerous when they become weaker. become weaker. become weaker. The world has very little to fear from a The world has very little to fear from a The world has very little to fear from a legitimately strong country. A strong legitimately strong country. A strong legitimately strong country. A strong country simply wants to preserve the country simply wants to preserve the country simply wants to preserve the status quo, its own interests, its trade status quo, its own interests, its trade status quo, its own interests, its trade routes. It doesn't want to be threatened routes. It doesn't want to be threatened routes. It doesn't want to be threatened by other countries, but it doesn't seek, by other countries, but it doesn't seek, by other countries, but it doesn't seek, say, territorial expansion. Because why say, territorial expansion. Because why say, territorial expansion. Because why would you take the risk when you're would you take the risk when you're would you take the risk when you're strong, when things are going well? Why strong, when things are going well? Why strong, when things are going well? Why would you want to change them? The risk would you want to change them? The risk would you want to change them? The risk always comes from the weaker party. The always comes from the weaker party. The always comes from the weaker party. The party that is cornered like an animal or party that is cornered like an animal or party that is cornered like an animal or a short man in a bar fight. That's the a short man in a bar fight. That's the a short man in a bar fight. That's the dangerous dangerous dangerous opponent is the opponent who feels that opponent is the opponent who feels that opponent is the opponent who feels that his options are running out, that he has his options are running out, that he has his options are running out, that he has no choice. And that is exactly why there no choice. And that is exactly why there no choice. And that is exactly why there are conversations now in the Pentagon are conversations now in the Pentagon are conversations now in the Pentagon about using offensive nuclear weapons about using offensive nuclear weapons about using offensive nuclear weapons against Iran, a non-uclear armed power.

against Iran, a non-uclear armed power. against Iran, a non-uclear armed power. A strong country would never have that A strong country would never have that A strong country would never have that discussion because a strong country discussion because a strong country discussion because a strong country would for example use its navy its would for example use its navy its would for example use its navy its trillion dollar navy to I don't know trillion dollar navy to I don't know trillion dollar navy to I don't know open the straight of H for H for H for H open the straight of H for H for H for H open the straight of H for H for H for H for H for H for H for H for H for H for for H for H for H for H for H for H for for H for H for H for H for H for H for Hormuz and restore balance to global Hormuz and restore balance to global Hormuz and restore balance to global energy markets that's the point of energy markets that's the point of energy markets that's the point of having a navy but we have demonstrated having a navy but we have demonstrated having a navy but we have demonstrated over the last 6 months that we can't do over the last 6 months that we can't do over the last 6 months that we can't do that our navy is not for bunch of that our navy is not for bunch of that our navy is not for bunch of reasons capable of opening the straight reasons capable of opening the straight reasons capable of opening the straight of Hormuz and so the United States is of Hormuz and so the United States is of Hormuz and so the United States is facing a very tough decision and you do facing a very tough decision and you do facing a very tough decision and you do have As reckless and crazy as this is, have As reckless and crazy as this is, have As reckless and crazy as this is, you do have some sympathy for it. If the you do have some sympathy for it. If the you do have some sympathy for it. If the US leaves the Persian Gulf with Iran in US leaves the Persian Gulf with Iran in US leaves the Persian Gulf with Iran in control of the straight of form, there's control of the straight of form, there's control of the straight of form, there's no lying about what just happened. We no lying about what just happened. We no lying about what just happened. We lost the war. The US is much weaker than lost the war. The US is much weaker than lost the war. The US is much weaker than it was at the outset and we're going to it was at the outset and we're going to it was at the outset and we're going to have to live with the consequences of have to live with the consequences of have to live with the consequences of that up to and including that up to and including that up to and including a monetary reset globally which is to a monetary reset globally which is to a monetary reset globally which is to say the loss say the loss say the loss of global reserve status for the US of global reserve status for the US of global reserve status for the US dollar and that has huge implications dollar and that has huge implications dollar and that has huge implications for this country domestically. The end for this country domestically. The end for this country domestically. The end of empire is always ugly and it can be of empire is always ugly and it can be of empire is always ugly and it can be extremely ugly for the nation that extremely ugly for the nation that extremely ugly for the nation that administers the empire. And so the US administers the empire. And so the US administers the empire. And so the US has an awful lot to lose. It's hard to has an awful lot to lose. It's hard to has an awful lot to lose. It's hard to walk back from what we've done in a walk back from what we've done in a walk back from what we've done in a graceful way that preserves our power graceful way that preserves our power graceful way that preserves our power and our prosperity at home. So, the and our prosperity at home. So, the and our prosperity at home. So, the Trump administration is in a really, Trump administration is in a really, Trump administration is in a really, really tough position.

really tough position. really tough position. The question is, The question is, The question is, will it make it much worse? will it make it much worse? will it make it much worse? Will it get everyone on Earth killed Will it get everyone on Earth killed Will it get everyone on Earth killed rather than accepting the inevitable rather than accepting the inevitable rather than accepting the inevitable loss? And at this point, that loss is loss? And at this point, that loss is loss? And at this point, that loss is inevitable, unfortunately, tragically. inevitable, unfortunately, tragically. inevitable, unfortunately, tragically. So in this case, and it pains me as an So in this case, and it pains me as an So in this case, and it pains me as an American to say that, the dangerous American to say that, the dangerous American to say that, the dangerous party here is not Iran and not Russia. party here is not Iran and not Russia. party here is not Iran and not Russia. And it hurts even to use those words And it hurts even to use those words And it hurts even to use those words because it was unimaginable even 10 because it was unimaginable even 10 because it was unimaginable even 10 years ago that the United States would years ago that the United States would years ago that the United States would be the threat to world peace. But in be the threat to world peace. But in be the threat to world peace. But in this specific instance, yes, this specific instance, yes, this specific instance, yes, because the United States doesn't because the United States doesn't because the United States doesn't actually have many options left. There actually have many options left. There actually have many options left. There is no conventional way to beat Iran. in is no conventional way to beat Iran. in is no conventional way to beat Iran. in this war. There is no conventional way this war. There is no conventional way this war. There is no conventional way to beat Russia in this war. And so at to beat Russia in this war. And so at to beat Russia in this war. And so at this point, the option is pull back this point, the option is pull back this point, the option is pull back or accelerate into nuclear holocaust. or accelerate into nuclear holocaust. or accelerate into nuclear holocaust. And it's important to say this out loud, And it's important to say this out loud, And it's important to say this out loud, not to scare people, but so that people not to scare people, but so that people not to scare people, but so that people know where we are right now at the end know where we are right now at the end know where we are right now at the end of August 2026.

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change and at times we walked that back. change and at times we walked that back. Um but every time that we appear to get Um but every time that we appear to get Um but every time that we appear to get a deal theou is a great example. We're a deal theou is a great example. We're a deal theou is a great example. We're in another period right now where we're in another period right now where we're in another period right now where we're trying to get a deal, but we're still trying to get a deal, but we're still trying to get a deal, but we're still implying that the Iranian regime as we implying that the Iranian regime as we implying that the Iranian regime as we know it must collapse, that there has to know it must collapse, that there has to know it must collapse, that there has to be some kind of a total victory. And you be some kind of a total victory. And you be some kind of a total victory. And you know, that that sounds like, okay, maybe know, that that sounds like, okay, maybe know, that that sounds like, okay, maybe we could do that. Um maybe people we could do that. Um maybe people we could do that. Um maybe people thought that, you know, in February, thought that, you know, in February, thought that, you know, in February, March time frame, but now here we are at March time frame, but now here we are at March time frame, but now here we are at the end of August and that still hasn't the end of August and that still hasn't the end of August and that still hasn't happened with the military tools that we happened with the military tools that we happened with the military tools that we have, you know, at our disposal. And so have, you know, at our disposal. And so have, you know, at our disposal. And so if our goal is to completely and if our goal is to completely and if our goal is to completely and totally, you know, collapse the regime, totally, you know, collapse the regime, totally, you know, collapse the regime, have the regime uh crumble or surrender have the regime uh crumble or surrender have the regime uh crumble or surrender in some way, shape, or form, we've kind in some way, shape, or form, we've kind in some way, shape, or form, we've kind of got two options because it's not of got two options because it's not of got two options because it's not going to happen through sanctions. It's going to happen through sanctions. It's going to happen through sanctions. It's not going to happen through the limited not going to happen through the limited not going to happen through the limited air campaign that we've done up to this air campaign that we've done up to this air campaign that we've done up to this point because if that was going to work, point because if that was going to work, point because if that was going to work, it it would have worked by now or we'd it it would have worked by now or we'd it it would have worked by now or we'd be doing more limited air campaign. So be doing more limited air campaign. So be doing more limited air campaign. So we've got two options, and that's to we've got two options, and that's to we've got two options, and that's to escalate by putting boots on the ground. escalate by putting boots on the ground. escalate by putting boots on the ground. And if you just take a look at how big And if you just take a look at how big And if you just take a look at how big Iran is, how big, you know, how how how Iran is, how big, you know, how how how Iran is, how big, you know, how how how the terrain actually is, even if we had the terrain actually is, even if we had the terrain actually is, even if we had the the full scope of our our military the the full scope of our our military the the full scope of our our military called up like we did for the 2003 called up like we did for the 2003 called up like we did for the 2003 invasion and even if we had a coalition invasion and even if we had a coalition invasion and even if we had a coalition like we had in 2003, a ground invasion like we had in 2003, a ground invasion like we had in 2003, a ground invasion inside Iran just is not feasible inside Iran just is not feasible inside Iran just is not feasible whatsoever. Even even if we had the whatsoever. Even even if we had the whatsoever. Even even if we had the national will to do it, the country is national will to do it, the country is national will to do it, the country is simply too big. The terrain is too much.

simply too big. The terrain is too much. simply too big. The terrain is too much. And then even if we could come in and And then even if we could come in and And then even if we could come in and topple the regime like we got rid of topple the regime like we got rid of topple the regime like we got rid of Saddam, well then as we know we have Saddam, well then as we know we have Saddam, well then as we know we have this thing called an insurgency. And so this thing called an insurgency. And so this thing called an insurgency. And so the ground option really quickly, you the ground option really quickly, you the ground option really quickly, you know, that's just not a serious thing. know, that's just not a serious thing. know, that's just not a serious thing. And then also we don't have the And then also we don't have the And then also we don't have the political will for it. So then you go political will for it. So then you go political will for it. So then you go back to square one. Our goal is for the back to square one. Our goal is for the back to square one. Our goal is for the regime to totally, you know, be regime to totally, you know, be regime to totally, you know, be collapsed. And so quickly you you arrive collapsed. And so quickly you you arrive collapsed. And so quickly you you arrive at well we kind of have to use a weapon at well we kind of have to use a weapon at well we kind of have to use a weapon of mass destruction or or a nuclear of mass destruction or or a nuclear of mass destruction or or a nuclear weapon of some sort. Uh and so really if weapon of some sort. Uh and so really if weapon of some sort. Uh and so really if you just play out the scenario for long you just play out the scenario for long you just play out the scenario for long enough, you arrive at weapons of mass enough, you arrive at weapons of mass enough, you arrive at weapons of mass destruction, you know, fairly quickly. destruction, you know, fairly quickly. destruction, you know, fairly quickly. And then even if we set the bar at just And then even if we set the bar at just And then even if we set the bar at just we want Iran to not have the capability we want Iran to not have the capability we want Iran to not have the capability to develop a nuclear weapon and and now to develop a nuclear weapon and and now to develop a nuclear weapon and and now we've set our sights on pickaxe we've set our sights on pickaxe we've set our sights on pickaxe mountain, we've gone back and forth mountain, we've gone back and forth mountain, we've gone back and forth between saying, you know, the three between saying, you know, the three between saying, you know, the three nuclear sites were completely nuclear sites were completely nuclear sites were completely obliterated to they may still have some obliterated to they may still have some obliterated to they may still have some nuclear dust in them. And that's where I nuclear dust in them. And that's where I nuclear dust in them. And that's where I think we're tempted to use, you know, a think we're tempted to use, you know, a think we're tempted to use, you know, a limited tactical nuke um which to on a limited tactical nuke um which to on a limited tactical nuke um which to on a specific target as opposed to a specific target as opposed to a specific target as opposed to a population center. But I just think the population center. But I just think the population center. But I just think the longer that you you play out the math, longer that you you play out the math, longer that you you play out the math, you kind of come back to the Japan you kind of come back to the Japan you kind of come back to the Japan scenario, which is where we were the scenario, which is where we were the scenario, which is where we were the last time, the only time thankfully that last time, the only time thankfully that last time, the only time thankfully that we've we've used nuclear weapons. We we've we've used nuclear weapons. We we've we've used nuclear weapons. We didn't want to commit the ground forces didn't want to commit the ground forces didn't want to commit the ground forces necessary to take Japan because we had necessary to take Japan because we had necessary to take Japan because we had already expended so much. The Pacific already expended so much. The Pacific already expended so much. The Pacific campaign had already cost us so much.

campaign had already cost us so much. campaign had already cost us so much. And so we said actually the the best And so we said actually the the best And so we said actually the the best thing that we can do is is drop a thing that we can do is is drop a thing that we can do is is drop a nuclear weapon. And so I I think we nuclear weapon. And so I I think we nuclear weapon. And so I I think we would be fools to think that this would be fools to think that this would be fools to think that this couldn't happen here in this current couldn't happen here in this current couldn't happen here in this current scenario, especially as the scenario, especially as the scenario, especially as the administration scrambles for a way out. administration scrambles for a way out. administration scrambles for a way out. >> So now and then, both of those >> So now and then, both of those >> So now and then, both of those calculations began with the same demand, calculations began with the same demand, calculations began with the same demand, which was total submission. So you know, which was total submission. So you know, which was total submission. So you know, before really before the modern era, before really before the modern era, before really before the modern era, defeat didn't necessarily mean defeat didn't necessarily mean defeat didn't necessarily mean unconditional surrender, right? you you unconditional surrender, right? you you unconditional surrender, right? you you just you want to resolve whatever the just you want to resolve whatever the just you want to resolve whatever the the conflict is, but that doesn't the conflict is, but that doesn't the conflict is, but that doesn't necessarily require you to enslave your necessarily require you to enslave your necessarily require you to enslave your opponent at the end. Um, and so maybe opponent at the end. Um, and so maybe opponent at the end. Um, and so maybe the problem is our original demand or the problem is our original demand or the problem is our original demand or the president's original demand for the president's original demand for the president's original demand for unconditional surrender. I mean, you can unconditional surrender. I mean, you can unconditional surrender. I mean, you can imagine a world in which he just said, imagine a world in which he just said, imagine a world in which he just said, "Look, it's it's enough that you don't "Look, it's it's enough that you don't "Look, it's it's enough that you don't have an active nuclear program and we have an active nuclear program and we have an active nuclear program and we can back off and let you run your your can back off and let you run your your can back off and let you run your your world or your region." world or your region." world or your region." And this is a fundamental problem we've And this is a fundamental problem we've And this is a fundamental problem we've had with this last iteration of this had with this last iteration of this had with this last iteration of this conflict. We we've really failed to set conflict. We we've really failed to set conflict. We we've really failed to set the parameters. We failed to say what the parameters. We failed to say what the parameters. We failed to say what our strategic goal is before we got into our strategic goal is before we got into our strategic goal is before we got into the war. We got into the war and then we the war. We got into the war and then we the war. We got into the war and then we fished around and we've moved the fished around and we've moved the fished around and we've moved the goalpost several different times. And so goalpost several different times. And so goalpost several different times. And so I mean that that's had many ripple down I mean that that's had many ripple down I mean that that's had many ripple down effects. I'd say mostly with the effects. I'd say mostly with the effects. I'd say mostly with the Pentagon, with the Department of Pentagon, with the Department of Pentagon, with the Department of Defense, who's trying to come up with, Defense, who's trying to come up with, Defense, who's trying to come up with, you know, viable solutions for the you know, viable solutions for the you know, viable solutions for the president, you know, using the tools president, you know, using the tools president, you know, using the tools they have at their disposal, which is, they have at their disposal, which is, they have at their disposal, which is, you know, military tools. Um, they you know, military tools. Um, they you know, military tools. Um, they really haven't known exactly what the really haven't known exactly what the really haven't known exactly what the president's wanted because he came out president's wanted because he came out president's wanted because he came out and he said, "Okay, the total surrender, and he said, "Okay, the total surrender, and he said, "Okay, the total surrender, the regime's going to fall, etc." But

the regime's going to fall, etc." But the regime's going to fall, etc." But then we we backed off from that and now then we we backed off from that and now then we we backed off from that and now it seems like we're just trying to get it seems like we're just trying to get it seems like we're just trying to get basically the Straits of Hormuz opened basically the Straits of Hormuz opened basically the Straits of Hormuz opened up once again. Um, but then we kind of up once again. Um, but then we kind of up once again. Um, but then we kind of fall back on Iran will never have a fall back on Iran will never have a fall back on Iran will never have a nuclear weapon. And so there's, you nuclear weapon. And so there's, you nuclear weapon. And so there's, you know, there's a lot of different angles know, there's a lot of different angles know, there's a lot of different angles there that you and I have have discussed there that you and I have have discussed there that you and I have have discussed before on on why we're fixated on, you before on on why we're fixated on, you before on on why we're fixated on, you know, the nuclear dust. I think a lot of know, the nuclear dust. I think a lot of know, the nuclear dust. I think a lot of this, the vast majority of it is due to this, the vast majority of it is due to this, the vast majority of it is due to the pressure from the Israelis. And the the pressure from the Israelis. And the the pressure from the Israelis. And the Israelis want regime decapitation. Israelis want regime decapitation. Israelis want regime decapitation. They're completely comfortable with a uh They're completely comfortable with a uh They're completely comfortable with a uh scenario where we're constantly mowing scenario where we're constantly mowing scenario where we're constantly mowing the grass. They're comfortable with the the grass. They're comfortable with the the grass. They're comfortable with the chaos. Uh but they know Americans chaos. Uh but they know Americans chaos. Uh but they know Americans aren't. And so they've had to sell us aren't. And so they've had to sell us aren't. And so they've had to sell us some kind of an objective. But the some kind of an objective. But the some kind of an objective. But the president has failed to to define that. president has failed to to define that. president has failed to to define that. So, if our goal was just to come up with So, if our goal was just to come up with So, if our goal was just to come up with a solution to the Iranian nuclear a solution to the Iranian nuclear a solution to the Iranian nuclear option, number one, the negotiations option, number one, the negotiations option, number one, the negotiations were working. That's why the Israelis were working. That's why the Israelis were working. That's why the Israelis had to shotgun through this war so had to shotgun through this war so had to shotgun through this war so quickly in the leadup to the 12-day war. quickly in the leadup to the 12-day war. quickly in the leadup to the 12-day war. Midnight Hammer, I I believe, took that Midnight Hammer, I I believe, took that Midnight Hammer, I I believe, took that off the table. And I think that was the off the table. And I think that was the off the table. And I think that was the president's intent was he was done president's intent was he was done president's intent was he was done talking about levels of enrichment. He talking about levels of enrichment. He talking about levels of enrichment. He was sick and tired of the Israelis was sick and tired of the Israelis was sick and tired of the Israelis pressuring him and so he just took it pressuring him and so he just took it pressuring him and so he just took it off the table. I I think the Iranians off the table. I I think the Iranians off the table. I I think the Iranians actually went along with that because actually went along with that because actually went along with that because they went right back to the negotiating they went right back to the negotiating they went right back to the negotiating table. Um, but now we're back stuck in table. Um, but now we're back stuck in table. Um, but now we're back stuck in this space where we're demanding some this space where we're demanding some this space where we're demanding some kind of a total capitulation from the kind of a total capitulation from the kind of a total capitulation from the Iranians when really that's just not Iranians when really that's just not Iranians when really that's just not feasible at all. And we seem to have feasible at all. And we seem to have feasible at all. And we seem to have recognized that at varying points.

recognized that at varying points. recognized that at varying points. Again, theou I think is a great example. Again, theou I think is a great example. Again, theou I think is a great example. The president even said we have to do The president even said we have to do The president even said we have to do theou because we're facing an economic theou because we're facing an economic theou because we're facing an economic disaster in this in this country. So for disaster in this in this country. So for disaster in this in this country. So for a brief moment there he realized he a brief moment there he realized he a brief moment there he realized he needed to be pragmatic and say okay good needed to be pragmatic and say okay good needed to be pragmatic and say okay good enough. Our main goal has to be straight enough. Our main goal has to be straight enough. Our main goal has to be straight of horm being opened up again. some kind of horm being opened up again. some kind of horm being opened up again. some kind of a, you know, status quo or working of a, you know, status quo or working of a, you know, status quo or working relationship we could have with the relationship we could have with the relationship we could have with the Iranians and then we'll discuss their Iranians and then we'll discuss their Iranians and then we'll discuss their nuclear file later on. But he couldn't nuclear file later on. But he couldn't nuclear file later on. But he couldn't even tolerate the pressure internally even tolerate the pressure internally even tolerate the pressure internally from the pro-Israel lobby because from the pro-Israel lobby because from the pro-Israel lobby because immediately we, you know, dispatched immediately we, you know, dispatched immediately we, you know, dispatched Marco Rubio over to Lebanon where he cut Marco Rubio over to Lebanon where he cut Marco Rubio over to Lebanon where he cut a basically a side deal that negated a basically a side deal that negated a basically a side deal that negated theou and then we also started theou and then we also started theou and then we also started pressuring or allowing ships to come pressuring or allowing ships to come pressuring or allowing ships to come through in violation of the MOU, come through in violation of the MOU, come through in violation of the MOU, come through the straits of Hormuz. So we we through the straits of Hormuz. So we we through the straits of Hormuz. So we we seem to not know exactly what we want. seem to not know exactly what we want. seem to not know exactly what we want. And this is why I think we should be And this is why I think we should be And this is why I think we should be very very concerned about something that very very concerned about something that very very concerned about something that most people will think isn't feasible most people will think isn't feasible most people will think isn't feasible like a nuclear weapon being deployed like a nuclear weapon being deployed like a nuclear weapon being deployed because there is so much confusion and because there is so much confusion and because there is so much confusion and friction and chaos in this entire friction and chaos in this entire friction and chaos in this entire process. process. process. >> Yeah. I mean I you know so many things >> Yeah. I mean I you know so many things >> Yeah. I mean I you know so many things to say but I mean I I was opposed to to say but I mean I I was opposed to to say but I mean I I was opposed to impeachment the two impeachment attempts impeachment the two impeachment attempts impeachment the two impeachment attempts against Trump. Strongly opposed. I the against Trump. Strongly opposed. I the against Trump. Strongly opposed. I the whole thing was absurd. Um I I believe whole thing was absurd. Um I I believe whole thing was absurd. Um I I believe in stability. I think elected leaders in stability. I think elected leaders in stability. I think elected leaders should serve out their terms. I I don't should serve out their terms. I I don't should serve out their terms. I I don't hate Trump personally. So with all of hate Trump personally. So with all of hate Trump personally. So with all of that said, the second any president that said, the second any president that said, the second any president actively considers first use of nuclear actively considers first use of nuclear actively considers first use of nuclear weapons, that person should be removed weapons, that person should be removed weapons, that person should be removed from office immediately immediately.

from office immediately immediately. from office immediately immediately. Because that's got to be the red line, Because that's got to be the red line, Because that's got to be the red line, destroying all of humanity in a with a destroying all of humanity in a with a destroying all of humanity in a with a nuclear strike. I mean, I like So why nuclear strike. I mean, I like So why nuclear strike. I mean, I like So why isn't there an attempt to remove him isn't there an attempt to remove him isn't there an attempt to remove him from office like immediately? Anyone who from office like immediately? Anyone who from office like immediately? Anyone who would even tolerate that kind of talk would even tolerate that kind of talk would even tolerate that kind of talk from any of his subordinates or from any of his subordinates or from any of his subordinates or employees is by definition unfit. That's employees is by definition unfit. That's employees is by definition unfit. That's the total destruction of the world. No. the total destruction of the world. No. the total destruction of the world. No. >> Yeah. The contrast is pretty wild. I >> Yeah. The contrast is pretty wild. I >> Yeah. The contrast is pretty wild. I mean, they wanted to impeach President mean, they wanted to impeach President mean, they wanted to impeach President Trump before because he had the audacity Trump before because he had the audacity Trump before because he had the audacity to question if, you know, mailin ballots to question if, you know, mailin ballots to question if, you know, mailin ballots were legitimate or not. Uh, and he said, were legitimate or not. Uh, and he said, were legitimate or not. Uh, and he said, "Go go march peace peacefully and "Go go march peace peacefully and "Go go march peace peacefully and patriotically onto the capital to to patriotically onto the capital to to patriotically onto the capital to to protest this uh this election." However, protest this uh this election." However, protest this uh this election." However, he has threatened to annihilate an he has threatened to annihilate an he has threatened to annihilate an entire civilization and the so-called entire civilization and the so-called entire civilization and the so-called opposition party, uh, they seem to be opposition party, uh, they seem to be opposition party, uh, they seem to be completely okay with that. I mean, every completely okay with that. I mean, every completely okay with that. I mean, every now and again, you know, in a hearing, now and again, you know, in a hearing, now and again, you know, in a hearing, they'll they'll throw out some barbs and they'll they'll throw out some barbs and they'll they'll throw out some barbs and jabs about, oh, didn't you know that jabs about, oh, didn't you know that jabs about, oh, didn't you know that your interceptors were being depleted? your interceptors were being depleted? your interceptors were being depleted? But there doesn't seem to be any actual, But there doesn't seem to be any actual, But there doesn't seem to be any actual, you know, push back from the Democrats. you know, push back from the Democrats. you know, push back from the Democrats. And I think this really points to the And I think this really points to the And I think this really points to the true bipartisan consensus in Washington true bipartisan consensus in Washington true bipartisan consensus in Washington DC, which is they always want more war, DC, which is they always want more war, DC, which is they always want more war, especially this war with Iran. And I especially this war with Iran. And I especially this war with Iran. And I think that really speaks to the amount think that really speaks to the amount think that really speaks to the amount of influence the Israeli lobby has over of influence the Israeli lobby has over of influence the Israeli lobby has over our elected officials. But I mean, even our elected officials. But I mean, even our elected officials. But I mean, even with the Ukraine war, I mean, now with the Ukraine war, I mean, now with the Ukraine war, I mean, now because the president has said different because the president has said different because the president has said different things, Republicans, I think, are a bit things, Republicans, I think, are a bit things, Republicans, I think, are a bit more torn than they were before when more torn than they were before when more torn than they were before when when Republicans, you know, weren't in when Republicans, you know, weren't in when Republicans, you know, weren't in power. But even with the Ukraine war, power. But even with the Ukraine war, power. But even with the Ukraine war, there was a lot of push back. There was there was a lot of push back. There was there was a lot of push back. There was a lot of back and forth. But with this a lot of back and forth. But with this a lot of back and forth. But with this war, there has been no real push back war, there has been no real push back war, there has been no real push back from from the Democrats. And then by and from from the Democrats. And then by and from from the Democrats. And then by and large, I mean, the most resistance I

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fine with that. fine with that. I mean, I left the Trump administration I mean, I left the Trump administration I mean, I left the Trump administration and I I think that there's a very um and I I think that there's a very um and I I think that there's a very um odd, I guess, is the best way I could odd, I guess, is the best way I could odd, I guess, is the best way I could put it, uh, probably the most polite way put it, uh, probably the most polite way put it, uh, probably the most polite way I could put it, culture um throughout I could put it, culture um throughout I could put it, culture um throughout the entire administration that you just the entire administration that you just the entire administration that you just need to go along with whatever the boss need to go along with whatever the boss need to go along with whatever the boss says, which is the job that we all says, which is the job that we all says, which is the job that we all signed up for, and if you can't do that, signed up for, and if you can't do that, signed up for, and if you can't do that, you should leave, which is what I did. you should leave, which is what I did. you should leave, which is what I did. However, there there does seem to be an However, there there does seem to be an However, there there does seem to be an erosion of of you know, I would say, you erosion of of you know, I would say, you erosion of of you know, I would say, you know, norms is cliche, but I would just know, norms is cliche, but I would just know, norms is cliche, but I would just say an erosion of any kind of, you know, say an erosion of any kind of, you know, say an erosion of any kind of, you know, moral compass where people should stand moral compass where people should stand moral compass where people should stand up and say like we shouldn't be doing up and say like we shouldn't be doing up and say like we shouldn't be doing this or why are we letting a foreign this or why are we letting a foreign this or why are we letting a foreign government put us in this this position. government put us in this this position. government put us in this this position. I'm not sure why it's not reaching the I'm not sure why it's not reaching the I'm not sure why it's not reaching the president that the best thing that we president that the best thing that we president that the best thing that we should do right now is just pick up and should do right now is just pick up and should do right now is just pick up and leave before things get, you know, far leave before things get, you know, far leave before things get, you know, far worse. I I I for the life of me don't worse. I I I for the life of me don't worse. I I I for the life of me don't understand that. I do think there's a understand that. I do think there's a understand that. I do think there's a major cultural issue right now within major cultural issue right now within major cultural issue right now within the administration. we should be seeing the administration. we should be seeing the administration. we should be seeing a lot more people uh from the a lot more people uh from the a lot more people uh from the administration stand up and leave. They administration stand up and leave. They administration stand up and leave. They don't have to do it the way the way I don't have to do it the way the way I don't have to do it the way the way I did it. I mean, there's a lot of did it. I mean, there's a lot of did it. I mean, there's a lot of criticisms you can make of how I left. I criticisms you can make of how I left. I criticisms you can make of how I left. I mean, that's fine. However, the fact mean, that's fine. However, the fact mean, that's fine. However, the fact that we haven't seen more people leave that we haven't seen more people leave that we haven't seen more people leave the administration and say like, I I'm the administration and say like, I I'm the administration and say like, I I'm not going to go along with this. This is not going to go along with this. This is not going to go along with this. This is taking our country in a disastrous taking our country in a disastrous taking our country in a disastrous direction. I I think just, you know, direction. I I think just, you know, direction. I I think just, you know, speaks volumes to the incentive system speaks volumes to the incentive system speaks volumes to the incentive system that is created inside Washington DC and that is created inside Washington DC and that is created inside Washington DC and unfortunately the people who end up in unfortunately the people who end up in unfortunately the people who end up in these positions. Um I that's something these positions. Um I that's something these positions. Um I that's something that we have to fix if our country is that we have to fix if our country is that we have to fix if our country is actually going to be saved actually going to be saved actually going to be saved >> or or the world. I mean just again >> or or the world. I mean just again >> or or the world. I mean just again >> any leader of any country who suggests >> any leader of any country who suggests >> any leader of any country who suggests first use of nuclear weapons has first use of nuclear weapons has first use of nuclear weapons has forfeited his right to lead. He has to

forfeited his right to lead. He has to forfeited his right to lead. He has to be removed immediately. I I think that's be removed immediately. I I think that's be removed immediately. I I think that's just a fair standard. Any normal person just a fair standard. Any normal person just a fair standard. Any normal person I think if we kind of cool the I think if we kind of cool the I think if we kind of cool the temperature a little bit and just ask temperature a little bit and just ask temperature a little bit and just ask objectively is that fair? Yeah, of objectively is that fair? Yeah, of objectively is that fair? Yeah, of course that's fair. You you can't risk course that's fair. You you can't risk course that's fair. You you can't risk the destruction of the world. You're not the destruction of the world. You're not the destruction of the world. You're not allowed you didn't build the world. allowed you didn't build the world. allowed you didn't build the world. you're not allowed to do that. So, so, you're not allowed to do that. So, so, you're not allowed to do that. So, so, so back to the the internal incentives so back to the the internal incentives so back to the the internal incentives here that are driving us toward here that are driving us toward here that are driving us toward destruction, and it is destruction. destruction, and it is destruction. destruction, and it is destruction. I I have just heard that Israel um that I I have just heard that Israel um that I I have just heard that Israel um that the Netanyahu government, which is the Netanyahu government, which is the Netanyahu government, which is facing an election in October, is facing an election in October, is facing an election in October, is considering an acceleration in Lebanon, considering an acceleration in Lebanon, considering an acceleration in Lebanon, like more aggre more killing in Lebanon. like more aggre more killing in Lebanon. like more aggre more killing in Lebanon. Um do you think that's true? And if Um do you think that's true? And if Um do you think that's true? And if Israel does that, what will the US Israel does that, what will the US Israel does that, what will the US response be, do you think? response be, do you think? response be, do you think? >> Well, the easy answer uh to to the >> Well, the easy answer uh to to the >> Well, the easy answer uh to to the latter part of your question, what will latter part of your question, what will latter part of your question, what will the US response be to anything that the US response be to anything that the US response be to anything that Israel does? Um at best will allow some Israel does? Um at best will allow some Israel does? Um at best will allow some US official to say we really don't like US official to say we really don't like US official to say we really don't like it that Israel did that. And then a it that Israel did that. And then a it that Israel did that. And then a couple days later, they'll walk it back couple days later, they'll walk it back couple days later, they'll walk it back and say, "Yes, but Israel has the right and say, "Yes, but Israel has the right and say, "Yes, but Israel has the right to defend itself or some other, you to defend itself or some other, you to defend itself or some other, you know, boilerplate line." Unfortunately, know, boilerplate line." Unfortunately, know, boilerplate line." Unfortunately, regardless of sometimes uh using, you regardless of sometimes uh using, you regardless of sometimes uh using, you know, more strongly worded uh tweets or know, more strongly worded uh tweets or know, more strongly worded uh tweets or um you know, public statements against um you know, public statements against um you know, public statements against the Israelis, we have yet to change the the Israelis, we have yet to change the the Israelis, we have yet to change the relationship with the Israelis relationship with the Israelis relationship with the Israelis whatsoever. Regardless of how many times whatsoever. Regardless of how many times whatsoever. Regardless of how many times the Israelis have publicly violated what the Israelis have publicly violated what the Israelis have publicly violated what the president has told them, you know, the president has told them, you know, the president has told them, you know, to do or not to do in this conflict in to do or not to do in this conflict in to do or not to do in this conflict in particular, we continue to provide the particular, we continue to provide the particular, we continue to provide the Israelis basically with whatever they Israelis basically with whatever they Israelis basically with whatever they want. I mean, we're merging, and people

want. I mean, we're merging, and people want. I mean, we're merging, and people don't like it when I say merging, but don't like it when I say merging, but don't like it when I say merging, but we're giving the Israelis access to some we're giving the Israelis access to some we're giving the Israelis access to some of the most sensitive capabilities of the most sensitive capabilities of the most sensitive capabilities within the Department of War, within our within the Department of War, within our within the Department of War, within our intelligence community. Uh, as part of intelligence community. Uh, as part of intelligence community. Uh, as part of the National Defense Authorization Act, the National Defense Authorization Act, the National Defense Authorization Act, we're still giving the Israelis nearly 4 we're still giving the Israelis nearly 4 we're still giving the Israelis nearly 4 billion in assistance. We launched this billion in assistance. We launched this billion in assistance. We launched this war at their behest, which has cost us, war at their behest, which has cost us, war at their behest, which has cost us, I think, somewhere to the tune of 300 I think, somewhere to the tune of 300 I think, somewhere to the tune of 300 billion and 18 fallen Americans, billion and 18 fallen Americans, billion and 18 fallen Americans, tragically. So, we have yet to really, tragically. So, we have yet to really, tragically. So, we have yet to really, you know, change the nature of our you know, change the nature of our you know, change the nature of our relationship with the Israelis. So we relationship with the Israelis. So we relationship with the Israelis. So we should not expect the Israelis to change should not expect the Israelis to change should not expect the Israelis to change how they behave. Now the Lebanon piece I how they behave. Now the Lebanon piece I how they behave. Now the Lebanon piece I think is is very very interesting think is is very very interesting think is is very very interesting because the Israelis are very smart. because the Israelis are very smart. because the Israelis are very smart. They understand American politics very They understand American politics very They understand American politics very well. I think they know that they ran up well. I think they know that they ran up well. I think they know that they ran up to the limit um where they can publicly to the limit um where they can publicly to the limit um where they can publicly humiliate the president by going and humiliate the president by going and humiliate the president by going and taking offensive actions inside of Iran taking offensive actions inside of Iran taking offensive actions inside of Iran because that's just a blatant smack in because that's just a blatant smack in because that's just a blatant smack in the face to the president. They got away the face to the president. They got away the face to the president. They got away with it on multiple occasions and they with it on multiple occasions and they with it on multiple occasions and they got us into this war. They know that got us into this war. They know that got us into this war. They know that they don't need to put the president or they don't need to put the president or they don't need to put the president or Republicans in the hot seat any more Republicans in the hot seat any more Republicans in the hot seat any more than they already have going into the than they already have going into the than they already have going into the midterms. But that's where Lebanon is midterms. But that's where Lebanon is midterms. But that's where Lebanon is much easier. Lebanon is right on their much easier. Lebanon is right on their much easier. Lebanon is right on their borders. They don't need any assistance borders. They don't need any assistance borders. They don't need any assistance from America to reach inside of of from America to reach inside of of from America to reach inside of of Lebanon in the way they do with Iran.

Lebanon in the way they do with Iran. Lebanon in the way they do with Iran. However, because this war has gone so However, because this war has gone so However, because this war has gone so poorly for us, the Iranians have moved poorly for us, the Iranians have moved poorly for us, the Iranians have moved their support from Lebanese Hezbollah. their support from Lebanese Hezbollah. their support from Lebanese Hezbollah. They moved it away from being They moved it away from being They moved it away from being clandestined and covert and they've clandestined and covert and they've clandestined and covert and they've said, "Okay, now we are actually going said, "Okay, now we are actually going said, "Okay, now we are actually going to act as a true regional power and to act as a true regional power and to act as a true regional power and we're going to hold the Israeli we're going to hold the Israeli we're going to hold the Israeli government accountable whenever they do government accountable whenever they do government accountable whenever they do something inside Lebanon that we don't something inside Lebanon that we don't something inside Lebanon that we don't like." And in the past, this would just like." And in the past, this would just like." And in the past, this would just be covert support, but to Hezbollah, but be covert support, but to Hezbollah, but be covert support, but to Hezbollah, but we've seen them actually launch we've seen them actually launch we've seen them actually launch ballistic missiles now against Israel. ballistic missiles now against Israel. ballistic missiles now against Israel. So, Israel knows they can restart the So, Israel knows they can restart the So, Israel knows they can restart the war. the Iranians I think in in a way to war. the Iranians I think in in a way to war. the Iranians I think in in a way to attempt to reign in Israel they put attempt to reign in Israel they put attempt to reign in Israel they put Lebanon as part of theou and that's one Lebanon as part of theou and that's one Lebanon as part of theou and that's one of the first violations that we made and of the first violations that we made and of the first violations that we made and it's one of the mo the first failures it's one of the mo the first failures it's one of the mo the first failures that we had with enforcing theou is we that we had with enforcing theou is we that we had with enforcing theou is we cut that side deal that allowed the cut that side deal that allowed the cut that side deal that allowed the Israelis to to maintain their presence Israelis to to maintain their presence Israelis to to maintain their presence and to continue to go on the offensive and to continue to go on the offensive and to continue to go on the offensive inside Lebanon. So Lebanon is going to inside Lebanon. So Lebanon is going to inside Lebanon. So Lebanon is going to be essentially the easy button for the be essentially the easy button for the be essentially the easy button for the Israelis to uh kind of poke at the Israelis to uh kind of poke at the Israelis to uh kind of poke at the Iranians to flare back up this conflict. Iranians to flare back up this conflict. Iranians to flare back up this conflict. Uh and right now I think the Lakood Uh and right now I think the Lakood Uh and right now I think the Lakood government they're in a very dangerous government they're in a very dangerous government they're in a very dangerous position uh because they're facing position uh because they're facing position uh because they're facing re-election. So they want there to be a re-election. So they want there to be a re-election. So they want there to be a hot war. They want to show their people hot war. They want to show their people hot war. They want to show their people that they're going on the offense that they're going on the offense that they're going on the offense against Hezbollah. So again uh for us to against Hezbollah. So again uh for us to against Hezbollah. So again uh for us to put ourselves in this in this position I put ourselves in this in this position I put ourselves in this in this position I just think is incredibly reckless.

just think is incredibly reckless. just think is incredibly reckless. >> So the future of the United States hangs >> So the future of the United States hangs >> So the future of the United States hangs on the fortunes of the Lood party in a on the fortunes of the Lood party in a on the fortunes of the Lood party in a country of 9 million people and their country of 9 million people and their country of 9 million people and their elections in October which most elections in October which most elections in October which most Americans know nothing about, don't even Americans know nothing about, don't even Americans know nothing about, don't even know they're happening. But like our know they're happening. But like our know they're happening. But like our children's future depend on that. Like children's future depend on that. Like children's future depend on that. Like BB's desire not to lose. BB's desire not to lose. BB's desire not to lose. >> Yeah. When you say it out loud, it's >> Yeah. When you say it out loud, it's >> Yeah. When you say it out loud, it's absurd. Um and most people if they just absurd. Um and most people if they just absurd. Um and most people if they just heard that if they just heard that heard that if they just heard that heard that if they just heard that statement, they would be like, well, you statement, they would be like, well, you statement, they would be like, well, you know, Tucker and Joe were being know, Tucker and Joe were being know, Tucker and Joe were being hyperbolic and that's just ridiculous. hyperbolic and that's just ridiculous. hyperbolic and that's just ridiculous. However, if you just look at the last I However, if you just look at the last I However, if you just look at the last I mean, six months, I mean, obviously mean, six months, I mean, obviously mean, six months, I mean, obviously there's there's a longer history prior there's there's a longer history prior there's there's a longer history prior to that, but if you look at the history to that, but if you look at the history to that, but if you look at the history since basically that the we got into since basically that the we got into since basically that the we got into this war in February, that is this war in February, that is this war in February, that is essentially the scenario. We got into essentially the scenario. We got into essentially the scenario. We got into this war and don't take my word for it. this war and don't take my word for it. this war and don't take my word for it. Listen to Secretary of State/N National Listen to Secretary of State/N National Listen to Secretary of State/N National Security Adviser Marco Rubio. We got Security Adviser Marco Rubio. We got Security Adviser Marco Rubio. We got into this war because the Israelis were into this war because the Israelis were into this war because the Israelis were about ready to launch an attack in Iran about ready to launch an attack in Iran about ready to launch an attack in Iran and we knew that that this time this and we knew that that this time this and we knew that that this time this iteration of the conflict, the Iranians iteration of the conflict, the Iranians iteration of the conflict, the Iranians wouldn't take it on the chin. They would wouldn't take it on the chin. They would wouldn't take it on the chin. They would actually hit us back because they had actually hit us back because they had actually hit us back because they had already been through one iteration of of already been through one iteration of of already been through one iteration of of conflict before. And so we got into this conflict before. And so we got into this conflict before. And so we got into this war because of the Israelis. and we're war because of the Israelis. and we're war because of the Israelis. and we're staying in this war. The Israelis have staying in this war. The Israelis have staying in this war. The Israelis have killed several of the the moderates, the killed several of the the moderates, the killed several of the the moderates, the so-called Iranian moderates that we were so-called Iranian moderates that we were so-called Iranian moderates that we were negotiating with or actually at the negotiating with or actually at the negotiating with or actually at the negotiating table with us. Uh the negotiating table with us. Uh the negotiating table with us. Uh the Iranians got the Israelis got us on Iranians got the Israelis got us on Iranians got the Israelis got us on board with killing the Iranian supreme board with killing the Iranian supreme board with killing the Iranian supreme leader, the Ayatollah, which is led to a leader, the Ayatollah, which is led to a leader, the Ayatollah, which is led to a more hardline leadership class coming more hardline leadership class coming more hardline leadership class coming into power inside of Iran. So, we can't into power inside of Iran. So, we can't into power inside of Iran. So, we can't get ourselves out of this war because get ourselves out of this war because get ourselves out of this war because the Israelis got us into it. Every time the Israelis got us into it. Every time the Israelis got us into it. Every time we think we're trying to get out of it, we think we're trying to get out of it, we think we're trying to get out of it, the Israelis take some action primarily the Israelis take some action primarily the Israelis take some action primarily at this point in this juncture inside at this point in this juncture inside at this point in this juncture inside Lebanon that keeps us in this war. We

Lebanon that keeps us in this war. We Lebanon that keeps us in this war. We refuse to change our relationship with refuse to change our relationship with refuse to change our relationship with the Israelis. So the Israelis have no the Israelis. So the Israelis have no the Israelis. So the Israelis have no incentive to change their behavior incentive to change their behavior incentive to change their behavior whatsoever. We've never held them whatsoever. We've never held them whatsoever. We've never held them accountable. So when you look at it accountable. So when you look at it accountable. So when you look at it through through that lens, the fact that through through that lens, the fact that through through that lens, the fact that the internal politics of Israel and the the internal politics of Israel and the the internal politics of Israel and the Lood party and the Lood party facing Lood party and the Lood party facing Lood party and the Lood party facing re-election and the Israelis knowing in re-election and the Israelis knowing in re-election and the Israelis knowing in the back of their head, they know that the back of their head, they know that the back of their head, they know that Donald Trump is probably the last Donald Trump is probably the last Donald Trump is probably the last pro-Israel president that they're going pro-Israel president that they're going pro-Israel president that they're going to have. So essentially, they're going to have. So essentially, they're going to have. So essentially, they're going for broke. They're trying to get as much for broke. They're trying to get as much for broke. They're trying to get as much as they can right now out of the United as they can right now out of the United as they can right now out of the United States of America, out of the US States of America, out of the US States of America, out of the US taxpayer, out of the blood of American taxpayer, out of the blood of American taxpayer, out of the blood of American soldiers before, you know, the ride soldiers before, you know, the ride soldiers before, you know, the ride comes crashing to a halt sometime in comes crashing to a halt sometime in comes crashing to a halt sometime in January of 2029. So when you look at it January of 2029. So when you look at it January of 2029. So when you look at it through that lens, everything that you through that lens, everything that you through that lens, everything that you just said about this tiny country just said about this tiny country just said about this tiny country because of the influence it has over our because of the influence it has over our because of the influence it has over our politicians driving, you know, basically politicians driving, you know, basically politicians driving, you know, basically the fates of the world, the world the fates of the world, the world the fates of the world, the world economy, the potential use of nuclear economy, the potential use of nuclear economy, the potential use of nuclear weapons, it's 100% true and it should weapons, it's 100% true and it should weapons, it's 100% true and it should scare everyone. And it's not just Iran. scare everyone. And it's not just Iran. scare everyone. And it's not just Iran. I mean, the same donors who pushed Trump I mean, the same donors who pushed Trump I mean, the same donors who pushed Trump to follow Israel into this war, who to follow Israel into this war, who to follow Israel into this war, who who have a hammerlock over this who have a hammerlock over this who have a hammerlock over this administration, are exactly the same administration, are exactly the same administration, are exactly the same people who pushed us to war with Russia.

people who pushed us to war with Russia. people who pushed us to war with Russia. So, they're not different people. It's So, they're not different people. It's So, they're not different people. It's the same. It's the same group. It's And the same. It's the same group. It's And the same. It's the same group. It's And so, I don't understand why Trump is so, I don't understand why Trump is so, I don't understand why Trump is still their slave. I mean, he's very still their slave. I mean, he's very still their slave. I mean, he's very frustrated. This is destroying his frustrated. This is destroying his frustrated. This is destroying his legacy. It'll hurt his family. It's legacy. It'll hurt his family. It's legacy. It'll hurt his family. It's hurting the country. It's wrecking the hurting the country. It's wrecking the hurting the country. It's wrecking the Republican party. Like, it's all Republican party. Like, it's all Republican party. Like, it's all downside for Trump. So, I don't And he's downside for Trump. So, I don't And he's downside for Trump. So, I don't And he's mad about it. Obviously, he said so in mad about it. Obviously, he said so in mad about it. Obviously, he said so in public. Why is he still under the public. Why is he still under the public. Why is he still under the control of neocons? control of neocons? control of neocons? >> Right now, that's the question of of our >> Right now, that's the question of of our >> Right now, that's the question of of our era and I and um I hope we get answers era and I and um I hope we get answers era and I and um I hope we get answers to it at some point, but I feel like to it at some point, but I feel like to it at some point, but I feel like this this question will be studied for this this question will be studied for this this question will be studied for quite some time. I mean, President Trump quite some time. I mean, President Trump quite some time. I mean, President Trump came to power uh on I'd you know, say came to power uh on I'd you know, say came to power uh on I'd you know, say three major principles and number one three major principles and number one three major principles and number one was foreign policy. He called out on the was foreign policy. He called out on the was foreign policy. He called out on the debate stage how foolish the Iraq war debate stage how foolish the Iraq war debate stage how foolish the Iraq war was. I mean, he he has said over and was. I mean, he he has said over and was. I mean, he he has said over and over again on the campaign trail how over again on the campaign trail how over again on the campaign trail how foolish the Ukraine war is and how he foolish the Ukraine war is and how he foolish the Ukraine war is and how he would solve it. And this was like the would solve it. And this was like the would solve it. And this was like the key premise, I think, of his 2016 key premise, I think, of his 2016 key premise, I think, of his 2016 campaign, most certainly his 2024 campaign, most certainly his 2024 campaign, most certainly his 2024 campaign. Um, there was also campaign. Um, there was also campaign. Um, there was also immigration, of course, and there was immigration, of course, and there was immigration, of course, and there was secure border. There was a lot of labor secure border. There was a lot of labor secure border. There was a lot of labor and trade issues there. But the foreign and trade issues there. But the foreign and trade issues there. But the foreign policy and the ramifications of American policy and the ramifications of American policy and the ramifications of American foreign policy is something that foreign policy is something that foreign policy is something that President Trump just he understood at at President Trump just he understood at at President Trump just he understood at at a gut level. I mean, this is why I a gut level. I mean, this is why I a gut level. I mean, this is why I supported President Trump from the time supported President Trump from the time supported President Trump from the time that he attacked Jeb Bush on the debate that he attacked Jeb Bush on the debate that he attacked Jeb Bush on the debate stage in South Carolina, you know, stage in South Carolina, you know, stage in South Carolina, you know, nearly nearly a decade ago. Um, that's nearly nearly a decade ago. Um, that's nearly nearly a decade ago. Um, that's why I supported him because I was like, why I supported him because I was like, why I supported him because I was like, "Hey, the guy from the Apprentice "Hey, the guy from the Apprentice "Hey, the guy from the Apprentice actually understands foreign policy actually understands foreign policy actually understands foreign policy better than all the so-called experts."

better than all the so-called experts." better than all the so-called experts." And me and most my friends had spent, And me and most my friends had spent, And me and most my friends had spent, you know, the last decade and a half in you know, the last decade and a half in you know, the last decade and a half in these foolish wars. And so, what I still these foolish wars. And so, what I still these foolish wars. And so, what I still for the life of me being on the inside, for the life of me being on the inside, for the life of me being on the inside, I don't understand how someone who I don't understand how someone who I don't understand how someone who understood that at a gut level. And he understood that at a gut level. And he understood that at a gut level. And he actually understood too more importantly actually understood too more importantly actually understood too more importantly how the American people felt. He he how the American people felt. He he how the American people felt. He he really knew that that this was a really knew that that this was a really knew that that this was a sensitive issue with the American sensitive issue with the American sensitive issue with the American people. And so to see him get walked people. And so to see him get walked people. And so to see him get walked into a scenario that he knew was going into a scenario that he knew was going into a scenario that he knew was going to be a disaster for our country, but to be a disaster for our country, but to be a disaster for our country, but then also for him politically, I mean, then also for him politically, I mean, then also for him politically, I mean, President Trump has great political President Trump has great political President Trump has great political instincts. And so to watch him just walk instincts. And so to watch him just walk instincts. And so to watch him just walk into this, you know, glaring bear trap into this, you know, glaring bear trap into this, you know, glaring bear trap off a cliff, whatever analogy you want off a cliff, whatever analogy you want off a cliff, whatever analogy you want to use, it's something that shocked me. to use, it's something that shocked me. to use, it's something that shocked me. Um, and I'm still trying to wrap my head Um, and I'm still trying to wrap my head Um, and I'm still trying to wrap my head around. And people will say, you know, around. And people will say, you know, around. And people will say, you know, they they the the the Israeli lobby, the they they the the the Israeli lobby, the they they the the the Israeli lobby, the neocons, they played to President neocons, they played to President neocons, they played to President Trump's ego. They got him at the right Trump's ego. They got him at the right Trump's ego. They got him at the right time. They said, "Hey, the protesters time. They said, "Hey, the protesters time. They said, "Hey, the protesters are on the street." You know, Venezuela are on the street." You know, Venezuela are on the street." You know, Venezuela most certainly. I was concerned when the most certainly. I was concerned when the most certainly. I was concerned when the Venezuela operation happened, as were Venezuela operation happened, as were Venezuela operation happened, as were many of my my peers and colleagues and many of my my peers and colleagues and many of my my peers and colleagues and even guys in the military. They were even guys in the military. They were even guys in the military. They were concerned that this was going to give concerned that this was going to give concerned that this was going to give President Trump the false sense that any President Trump the false sense that any President Trump the false sense that any country that we had a problem with, we country that we had a problem with, we country that we had a problem with, we could just swoop in, grab or kill the could just swoop in, grab or kill the could just swoop in, grab or kill the leader, and it' kind of be ingame. That leader, and it' kind of be ingame. That leader, and it' kind of be ingame. That that concerned me a lot, too. And so, that concerned me a lot, too. And so, that concerned me a lot, too. And so, yeah, did they give President Trump the yeah, did they give President Trump the yeah, did they give President Trump the pitch at the right time and tell him, pitch at the right time and tell him, pitch at the right time and tell him, "Hey, this is going to be super easy."

"Hey, this is going to be super easy." "Hey, this is going to be super easy." Of course, I think all that happened. Of course, I think all that happened. Of course, I think all that happened. However, for President Trump to even However, for President Trump to even However, for President Trump to even begin going down this road before the begin going down this road before the begin going down this road before the 12-day war is is something that it still 12-day war is is something that it still 12-day war is is something that it still baffles me. At the beginning of the baffles me. At the beginning of the baffles me. At the beginning of the administration, early 2025, he he was administration, early 2025, he he was administration, early 2025, he he was utterly just not interested and kind of utterly just not interested and kind of utterly just not interested and kind of disgusted with people even entertaining disgusted with people even entertaining disgusted with people even entertaining the idea of military operations in Iran. the idea of military operations in Iran. the idea of military operations in Iran. He put all of his chips in with with He put all of his chips in with with He put all of his chips in with with Steve Whit and his negotiations. And why Steve Whit and his negotiations. And why Steve Whit and his negotiations. And why he flipped on a dime, I don't know. And he flipped on a dime, I don't know. And he flipped on a dime, I don't know. And this is why I say that we should look at this is why I say that we should look at this is why I say that we should look at every single factor that could influence every single factor that could influence every single factor that could influence his decision making. Everything from his decision making. Everything from his decision making. Everything from Butler to the breaches of his security Butler to the breaches of his security Butler to the breaches of his security to having, you know, one of his closest to having, you know, one of his closest to having, you know, one of his closest political uh advocates who was against political uh advocates who was against political uh advocates who was against the war in Iran, who was against the the war in Iran, who was against the the war in Iran, who was against the 12-day war, who was actively petitioning 12-day war, who was actively petitioning 12-day war, who was actively petitioning the president not to get back into the the president not to get back into the the president not to get back into the war when he, you know, Charlie Kirk was war when he, you know, Charlie Kirk was war when he, you know, Charlie Kirk was publicly assassinated. I think we should publicly assassinated. I think we should publicly assassinated. I think we should factor all that in too. 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be it'll work. That's their view. Okay. be it'll work. That's their view. Okay. Or they say that's what they think. Who Or they say that's what they think. Who Or they say that's what they think. Who knows what they really think. But knows what they really think. But knows what they really think. But anyway, it's impossible to believe that anyway, it's impossible to believe that anyway, it's impossible to believe that after the Israelis sabotage Trump's after the Israelis sabotage Trump's after the Israelis sabotage Trump's effort to get a negotiated settlement to effort to get a negotiated settlement to effort to get a negotiated settlement to this. we don't have a negotiated this. we don't have a negotiated this. we don't have a negotiated settlement because of the Israelis and settlement because of the Israelis and settlement because of the Israelis and Trump hated that and sent his vice Trump hated that and sent his vice Trump hated that and sent his vice president out to criticize them and like president out to criticize them and like president out to criticize them and like there was this moment if you I know you there was this moment if you I know you there was this moment if you I know you remember the summer was like oh gosh remember the summer was like oh gosh remember the summer was like oh gosh Trump finally gets it but now we're back Trump finally gets it but now we're back Trump finally gets it but now we're back to where we were in the opening days of to where we were in the opening days of to where we were in the opening days of the war. So like you can't argue that the war. So like you can't argue that the war. So like you can't argue that he's been fooled at this point. He knows he's been fooled at this point. He knows he's been fooled at this point. He knows perfectly well but he's still doing perfectly well but he's still doing perfectly well but he's still doing their bidding despite the fact it's their bidding despite the fact it's their bidding despite the fact it's destroying him. So like what destroying him. So like what destroying him. So like what >> I mean this is yeah this this is what I >> I mean this is yeah this this is what I >> I mean this is yeah this this is what I can't wrap my head around either. I can't wrap my head around either. I can't wrap my head around either. I would think from his business would think from his business would think from his business perspective and then just him probably perspective and then just him probably perspective and then just him probably being mad at everyone who gave him this being mad at everyone who gave him this being mad at everyone who gave him this advice. If it were up to him, he would advice. If it were up to him, he would advice. If it were up to him, he would pick up and leave. And look, President pick up and leave. And look, President pick up and leave. And look, President Trump is is very politically savvy. I Trump is is very politically savvy. I Trump is is very politically savvy. I know that all his critics then would know that all his critics then would know that all his critics then would come after him and they'd be like, "Oh, come after him and they'd be like, "Oh, come after him and they'd be like, "Oh, you're retreating all this narrative, you're retreating all this narrative, you're retreating all this narrative, that narrative." I mean, nobody can that narrative." I mean, nobody can that narrative." I mean, nobody can drive a domestic political narrative drive a domestic political narrative drive a domestic political narrative like Donald Trump. And so Trump knows like Donald Trump. And so Trump knows like Donald Trump. And so Trump knows that. So there's there's no reason why that. So there's there's no reason why that. So there's there's no reason why he wouldn't just pick up everything and he wouldn't just pick up everything and he wouldn't just pick up everything and say, "Hey, we're going to deal with this say, "Hey, we're going to deal with this say, "Hey, we're going to deal with this later." And then come back and say, later." And then come back and say, later." And then come back and say, "Hey, I won the war. Don't listen to the "Hey, I won the war. Don't listen to the "Hey, I won the war. Don't listen to the fake news that says I lost." And then he fake news that says I lost." And then he fake news that says I lost." And then he would just simply switch the topic. We'd would just simply switch the topic. We'd would just simply switch the topic. We'd still have to deal with all the thing, still have to deal with all the thing, still have to deal with all the thing, all the ramifications from the war. But all the ramifications from the war. But all the ramifications from the war. But I think we could do that quietly. Why I think we could do that quietly. Why I think we could do that quietly. Why he's not doing that, I have no idea. But he's not doing that, I have no idea. But he's not doing that, I have no idea. But that points back to why I think we do that points back to why I think we do that points back to why I think we do need to assess all of the potential

need to assess all of the potential need to assess all of the potential external factors and you know even the external factors and you know even the external factors and you know even the factors that are much darker and some factors that are much darker and some factors that are much darker and some would even say are kind of would even say are kind of would even say are kind of conspiratorial because at the end of the conspiratorial because at the end of the conspiratorial because at the end of the day nothing that we're doing right now day nothing that we're doing right now day nothing that we're doing right now is logical whatsoever. Our relationship is logical whatsoever. Our relationship is logical whatsoever. Our relationship with Israel, the way that we're letting with Israel, the way that we're letting with Israel, the way that we're letting them continue to sabotage these deals, them continue to sabotage these deals, them continue to sabotage these deals, the fact that we're just staying locked the fact that we're just staying locked the fact that we're just staying locked in this mess. I mean, President Trump in this mess. I mean, President Trump in this mess. I mean, President Trump has been cutting business deals his has been cutting business deals his has been cutting business deals his entire life. uh for him not to be able entire life. uh for him not to be able entire life. uh for him not to be able to assess that right now the Iranians, to assess that right now the Iranians, to assess that right now the Iranians, they're not primed for a deal. Like the they're not primed for a deal. Like the they're not primed for a deal. Like the Iranians are not going to give us a deal Iranians are not going to give us a deal Iranians are not going to give us a deal on a piece of paper, you know, that he on a piece of paper, you know, that he on a piece of paper, you know, that he wants. That doesn't mean that we can't wants. That doesn't mean that we can't wants. That doesn't mean that we can't work out some arrangement where the work out some arrangement where the work out some arrangement where the straits of Hormuz are open back up straits of Hormuz are open back up straits of Hormuz are open back up again. I would think President Trump again. I would think President Trump again. I would think President Trump would understand that and and I think he would understand that and and I think he would understand that and and I think he does understand that. So why he's not does understand that. So why he's not does understand that. So why he's not just simply walking away before this just simply walking away before this just simply walking away before this escalates and gets even worse, I I truly escalates and gets even worse, I I truly escalates and gets even worse, I I truly don't know. I don't think it's the most don't know. I don't think it's the most don't know. I don't think it's the most obvious answer. you know, people are obvious answer. you know, people are obvious answer. you know, people are saying like, "No, Tra Trump is just a saying like, "No, Tra Trump is just a saying like, "No, Tra Trump is just a he's a captive of his own ego." And, you he's a captive of his own ego." And, you he's a captive of his own ego." And, you know, I'm sure some of that is true to a know, I'm sure some of that is true to a know, I'm sure some of that is true to a certain extent. Um, however, he wants to certain extent. Um, however, he wants to certain extent. Um, however, he wants to be politically successful. He he doesn't be politically successful. He he doesn't be politically successful. He he doesn't want to get, you know, blown out in the want to get, you know, blown out in the want to get, you know, blown out in the midterms. He's saying right now like, midterms. He's saying right now like, midterms. He's saying right now like, "Oh, yeah, the midterms I don't really "Oh, yeah, the midterms I don't really "Oh, yeah, the midterms I don't really care. That's Republican's fault." He's care. That's Republican's fault." He's care. That's Republican's fault." He's saying all that, but I I don't think saying all that, but I I don't think saying all that, but I I don't think that that's actually his heart. I think that that's actually his heart. I think that that's actually his heart. I think he wants to be successful. So, for him he wants to be successful. So, for him he wants to be successful. So, for him not to pick up and walk away, there's a not to pick up and walk away, there's a not to pick up and walk away, there's a much deeper and and darker answer there.

much deeper and and darker answer there. much deeper and and darker answer there. I I I I fear uh that I think we should I I I I fear uh that I think we should I I I I fear uh that I think we should continue to probe and ask about because continue to probe and ask about because continue to probe and ask about because anytime we ask about these these anytime we ask about these these anytime we ask about these these questions and we say, "Hey, there's questions and we say, "Hey, there's questions and we say, "Hey, there's something influencing President Trump something influencing President Trump something influencing President Trump that's not just his ego. It's not just that's not just his ego. It's not just that's not just his ego. It's not just bad information." You know, we are bad information." You know, we are bad information." You know, we are attacked to a certain extent because attacked to a certain extent because attacked to a certain extent because people don't want to they they don't people don't want to they they don't people don't want to they they don't want to look into those those dark want to look into those those dark want to look into those those dark places. But I think the more that we places. But I think the more that we places. But I think the more that we look into those, hopefully we can put look into those, hopefully we can put look into those, hopefully we can put some light and try and and hopefully some light and try and and hopefully some light and try and and hopefully figure out who actually runs our figure out who actually runs our figure out who actually runs our government. government. government. >> Yeah. I mean, I I talked to Trump as >> Yeah. I mean, I I talked to Trump as >> Yeah. I mean, I I talked to Trump as much as anybody in the weeks before this much as anybody in the weeks before this much as anybody in the weeks before this war began. And my strong view then and war began. And my strong view then and war began. And my strong view then and now was he didn't want to do it. So now was he didn't want to do it. So now was he didn't want to do it. So that's that's that's my opinion based on that's that's that's my opinion based on that's that's that's my opinion based on a lot of convers a lot of conversations a lot of convers a lot of conversations a lot of convers a lot of conversations with Trump about this. So maybe I'm with Trump about this. So maybe I'm with Trump about this. So maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he was lying. Maybe he wrong. Maybe he was lying. Maybe he wrong. Maybe he was lying. Maybe he secretly really wanted to do it. But I I secretly really wanted to do it. But I I secretly really wanted to do it. But I I feel like I knew him well and I didn't feel like I knew him well and I didn't feel like I knew him well and I didn't see any enthusiasm at all. Only kind of see any enthusiasm at all. Only kind of see any enthusiasm at all. Only kind of resignation and dread. So, you know, I I resignation and dread. So, you know, I I resignation and dread. So, you know, I I think anyone who dismisses questions think anyone who dismisses questions think anyone who dismisses questions about how that happened as conspiracy about how that happened as conspiracy about how that happened as conspiracy theories uh is a liar. That's what I theories uh is a liar. That's what I theories uh is a liar. That's what I think. Um so, one of the darkest things think. Um so, one of the darkest things think. Um so, one of the darkest things I've ever seen shouldn't have surprised I've ever seen shouldn't have surprised I've ever seen shouldn't have surprised me, but it still did. This week, Keith me, but it still did. This week, Keith me, but it still did. This week, Keith Kellogg, former general, um, Fox News Kellogg, former general, um, Fox News Kellogg, former general, um, Fox News contributor, former negotiator for Trump contributor, former negotiator for Trump contributor, former negotiator for Trump in the Russia Ukraine conflict, is in in the Russia Ukraine conflict, is in in the Russia Ukraine conflict, is in Ukraine and starts telling the Ukraine and starts telling the Ukraine and starts telling the Ukrainians Ukrainians Ukrainians that they need to start drafting women that they need to start drafting women that they need to start drafting women and feed their women into the meat and feed their women into the meat and feed their women into the meat grinder of this war and exterminate all grinder of this war and exterminate all grinder of this war and exterminate all their women because that's honorable or their women because that's honorable or their women because that's honorable or something. Um, did you see this and what

something. Um, did you see this and what something. Um, did you see this and what do you make of it? do you make of it? do you make of it? Yeah, I I saw it and it's it's Yeah, I I saw it and it's it's Yeah, I I saw it and it's it's disturbing. I think it's disturbing disturbing. I think it's disturbing disturbing. I think it's disturbing anytime American officials go over to to anytime American officials go over to to anytime American officials go over to to Kiev and and basically are allowed to Kiev and and basically are allowed to Kiev and and basically are allowed to continue to pressure our government to continue to pressure our government to continue to pressure our government to support this war. I mean, that to me is support this war. I mean, that to me is support this war. I mean, that to me is a decision that the president should be a decision that the president should be a decision that the president should be making. I mean, we can't stop, you know, making. I mean, we can't stop, you know, making. I mean, we can't stop, you know, individual civilians from traveling and individual civilians from traveling and individual civilians from traveling and speaking their mind, etc. But I think speaking their mind, etc. But I think speaking their mind, etc. But I think for us to try and pressure this war to for us to try and pressure this war to for us to try and pressure this war to continue and we know it's going to continue and we know it's going to continue and we know it's going to result in some kind of an escalation. result in some kind of an escalation. result in some kind of an escalation. I'm sure we'll get to this, but we just I'm sure we'll get to this, but we just I'm sure we'll get to this, but we just had the CIA director in in Russia, you had the CIA director in in Russia, you had the CIA director in in Russia, you know, yesterday, there's there is some know, yesterday, there's there is some know, yesterday, there's there is some form of escalation that's brewing. I form of escalation that's brewing. I form of escalation that's brewing. I mean, you can see that in the way that mean, you can see that in the way that mean, you can see that in the way that the two conflicts are becoming blended, the two conflicts are becoming blended, the two conflicts are becoming blended, but also, I mean, just this has been a but also, I mean, just this has been a but also, I mean, just this has been a stalemate. Russia is kind of grinding it stalemate. Russia is kind of grinding it stalemate. Russia is kind of grinding it out and and winning. The only reason out and and winning. The only reason out and and winning. The only reason Ukraine is remaining afloat, number one, Ukraine is remaining afloat, number one, Ukraine is remaining afloat, number one, I mean, look, I respect the Ukrainian I mean, look, I respect the Ukrainian I mean, look, I respect the Ukrainian people for fighting um for their people for fighting um for their people for fighting um for their territory. Like, can't underplay that. territory. Like, can't underplay that. territory. Like, can't underplay that. whatsoever and um you know that they whatsoever and um you know that they whatsoever and um you know that they they have every right to do so. However, they have every right to do so. However, they have every right to do so. However, the only reason Ukraine is still afloat the only reason Ukraine is still afloat the only reason Ukraine is still afloat is because of the support that the is because of the support that the is because of the support that the United States government has given them United States government has given them United States government has given them and then also you know the UK and NATO and then also you know the UK and NATO and then also you know the UK and NATO etc. Um, but we are are essentially etc. Um, but we are are essentially etc. Um, but we are are essentially using them as a proxy because we still using them as a proxy because we still using them as a proxy because we still have this obsession with trying to hurt have this obsession with trying to hurt have this obsession with trying to hurt and bleed Russia. And so we're using and bleed Russia. And so we're using and bleed Russia. And so we're using these young men and now these young these young men and now these young these young men and now these young women basically as our proxies. And you women basically as our proxies. And you women basically as our proxies. And you get people like Kellogg, the former Vice get people like Kellogg, the former Vice get people like Kellogg, the former Vice President Pence over there saying like, President Pence over there saying like, President Pence over there saying like, "Oh yeah, we need more young Ukrainians.

"Oh yeah, we need more young Ukrainians. "Oh yeah, we need more young Ukrainians. We need young Ukrainian women to go out We need young Ukrainian women to go out We need young Ukrainian women to go out there and fight and die and basically be there and fight and die and basically be there and fight and die and basically be cannon fodder because the West has some cannon fodder because the West has some cannon fodder because the West has some kind of obsession, you know, with with kind of obsession, you know, with with kind of obsession, you know, with with Russia or really wants to accelerate us Russia or really wants to accelerate us Russia or really wants to accelerate us more closer towards a third world war. more closer towards a third world war. more closer towards a third world war. It's just sick and it's insane. And and It's just sick and it's insane. And and It's just sick and it's insane. And and then again, this is another one where then again, this is another one where then again, this is another one where you wonder like what what is the actual you wonder like what what is the actual you wonder like what what is the actual point? Why are we telling more point? Why are we telling more point? Why are we telling more Ukrainians to go into the meat grinder? Ukrainians to go into the meat grinder? Ukrainians to go into the meat grinder? >> Why are we inspiring genocide in >> Why are we inspiring genocide in >> Why are we inspiring genocide in Ukraine, which is what we're doing? like Ukraine, which is what we're doing? like Ukraine, which is what we're doing? like just exterminate the entire Ukrainian just exterminate the entire Ukrainian just exterminate the entire Ukrainian population and then the president, the population and then the president, the population and then the president, the sort of non- Ukrainian president of sort of non- Ukrainian president of sort of non- Ukrainian president of Ukraine, who's not elected by the way, Ukraine, who's not elected by the way, Ukraine, who's not elected by the way, won't have elections, has created a won't have elections, has created a won't have elections, has created a police state, banned the biggest police state, banned the biggest police state, banned the biggest Christian denomination, like this Christian denomination, like this Christian denomination, like this Bolevik takeover of Ukraine. That guy's Bolevik takeover of Ukraine. That guy's Bolevik takeover of Ukraine. That guy's like, "Oh, we'll just import Indians like, "Oh, we'll just import Indians like, "Oh, we'll just import Indians into Ukraine." It's like to replace the into Ukraine." It's like to replace the into Ukraine." It's like to replace the Ukrainians killed in this totally Ukrainians killed in this totally Ukrainians killed in this totally pointless war that he could have gotten pointless war that he could have gotten pointless war that he could have gotten out of but didn't. I mean, it does raise out of but didn't. I mean, it does raise out of but didn't. I mean, it does raise questions like what is this? And it questions like what is this? And it questions like what is this? And it seems to me like the extermination of a seems to me like the extermination of a seems to me like the extermination of a population. That's what it looks like to population. That's what it looks like to population. That's what it looks like to me on purpose. me on purpose. me on purpose. >> Yeah, there's no other way to read it. I >> Yeah, there's no other way to read it. I >> Yeah, there's no other way to read it. I mean, it's we it's definitely on purpose mean, it's we it's definitely on purpose mean, it's we it's definitely on purpose because we have been encouraging them.

because we have been encouraging them. because we have been encouraging them. We've been funding it. It's definitely We've been funding it. It's definitely We've been funding it. It's definitely the extermination of a population the extermination of a population the extermination of a population because Russia is massive. They can pour because Russia is massive. They can pour because Russia is massive. They can pour way more bodies at this conflict than way more bodies at this conflict than way more bodies at this conflict than the Ukrainians can. So, the Ukrainians the Ukrainians can. So, the Ukrainians the Ukrainians can. So, the Ukrainians have just ran out of bodies. And have just ran out of bodies. And have just ran out of bodies. And Solinsky is saying, "Yeah, we'll import Solinsky is saying, "Yeah, we'll import Solinsky is saying, "Yeah, we'll import more for I guess he's taking a playbook more for I guess he's taking a playbook more for I guess he's taking a playbook out of the West, like we'll import more out of the West, like we'll import more out of the West, like we'll import more foreigners to replace all of our native foreigners to replace all of our native foreigners to replace all of our native Moran people. Um, and then let Black Moran people. Um, and then let Black Moran people. Um, and then let Black Rockck do the reconstruction." I mean, Rockck do the reconstruction." I mean, Rockck do the reconstruction." I mean, the whole thing is absolutely sick. And the whole thing is absolutely sick. And the whole thing is absolutely sick. And again, too, like the just the stakes. I again, too, like the just the stakes. I again, too, like the just the stakes. I mean, the fact that we are uh pushing a mean, the fact that we are uh pushing a mean, the fact that we are uh pushing a nuclear power, one of the world's nuclear power, one of the world's nuclear power, one of the world's biggest nuclear powers, they have the biggest nuclear powers, they have the biggest nuclear powers, they have the most nuclear weapons. They're the most nuclear weapons. They're the most nuclear weapons. They're the world's biggest natural resources world's biggest natural resources world's biggest natural resources producer, massive land mass. We are producer, massive land mass. We are producer, massive land mass. We are pushing them to a point where they feel pushing them to a point where they feel pushing them to a point where they feel that they need to use nuclear weapons. that they need to use nuclear weapons. that they need to use nuclear weapons. That's not a justification for anything, That's not a justification for anything, That's not a justification for anything, you know, Putin's done, etc. But why are you know, Putin's done, etc. But why are you know, Putin's done, etc. But why are we pushing them? What gain do we get we pushing them? What gain do we get we pushing them? What gain do we get from this? As a matter of fact, like I from this? As a matter of fact, like I from this? As a matter of fact, like I would say that the war in Ukraine, who would say that the war in Ukraine, who would say that the war in Ukraine, who controls the Dombas, doesn't matter to controls the Dombas, doesn't matter to controls the Dombas, doesn't matter to anybody in America. It's debatable if it anybody in America. It's debatable if it anybody in America. It's debatable if it matters to really anybody in in Europe matters to really anybody in in Europe matters to really anybody in in Europe that's not even close to their borders. that's not even close to their borders. that's not even close to their borders. It definitely doesn't matter to us, but It definitely doesn't matter to us, but It definitely doesn't matter to us, but we're paying for this. But if this goes we're paying for this. But if this goes we're paying for this. But if this goes sideways, if our calculation is sideways, if our calculation is sideways, if our calculation is completely wrong, if Putin isn't completely wrong, if Putin isn't completely wrong, if Putin isn't restrained, or if for whatever reason restrained, or if for whatever reason restrained, or if for whatever reason some of the hardliners inside Russia, some of the hardliners inside Russia, some of the hardliners inside Russia, you know, take over or gain more you know, take over or gain more you know, take over or gain more influence of Putin and he uses a nuclear influence of Putin and he uses a nuclear influence of Putin and he uses a nuclear weapon or a limited nuclear weapon.

weapon or a limited nuclear weapon. weapon or a limited nuclear weapon. Well, you you know, where are we? Or, Well, you you know, where are we? Or, Well, you you know, where are we? Or, you know, what if in the scenario we you know, what if in the scenario we you know, what if in the scenario we just discussed, us or the Israelis use a just discussed, us or the Israelis use a just discussed, us or the Israelis use a limited nuclear weapon inside Iran? What limited nuclear weapon inside Iran? What limited nuclear weapon inside Iran? What message does that send to Putin? Putin's message does that send to Putin? Putin's message does that send to Putin? Putin's going to say, "Oh, okay. Well, America, going to say, "Oh, okay. Well, America, going to say, "Oh, okay. Well, America, if you guys set the new norms, I got you if you guys set the new norms, I got you if you guys set the new norms, I got you loud and clear. Those are the new norms. loud and clear. Those are the new norms. loud and clear. Those are the new norms. I'm going to use one now on Kiev. And I'm going to use one now on Kiev. And I'm going to use one now on Kiev. And then where are we? And at the end of the then where are we? And at the end of the then where are we? And at the end of the day, for what? What gain? What what are day, for what? What gain? What what are day, for what? What gain? What what are we getting out of this? It's absolute we getting out of this? It's absolute we getting out of this? It's absolute insanity, right? We're upon, as the insanity, right? We're upon, as the insanity, right? We're upon, as the Ukrainians are, in a in a larger in a Ukrainians are, in a in a larger in a Ukrainians are, in a in a larger in a larger plan, obviously. What was the CIA larger plan, obviously. What was the CIA larger plan, obviously. What was the CIA director doing in Moscow this week? director doing in Moscow this week? director doing in Moscow this week? Well, one would hope that he he was Well, one would hope that he he was Well, one would hope that he he was there um you know trying to cool there um you know trying to cool there um you know trying to cool tensions and and saying that hey, we're tensions and and saying that hey, we're tensions and and saying that hey, we're going to tell the Ukrainians to back off going to tell the Ukrainians to back off going to tell the Ukrainians to back off on all the targeting of infrastructure on all the targeting of infrastructure on all the targeting of infrastructure and targeting civilians uh that they're and targeting civilians uh that they're and targeting civilians uh that they're doing and we would hope that you would doing and we would hope that you would doing and we would hope that you would do the same. And hey, maybe because of do the same. And hey, maybe because of do the same. And hey, maybe because of the energy crisis in the Straits of the energy crisis in the Straits of the energy crisis in the Straits of Hormuz, let's stop targeting energy for Hormuz, let's stop targeting energy for Hormuz, let's stop targeting energy for the sake of the world economy. Uh if the sake of the world economy. Uh if the sake of the world economy. Uh if we're going to put a favorable lens on we're going to put a favorable lens on we're going to put a favorable lens on it, hopefully that was the message. Uh, it, hopefully that was the message. Uh, it, hopefully that was the message. Uh, however, considering the fact that we however, considering the fact that we however, considering the fact that we may be uh at least wanting to keep may be uh at least wanting to keep may be uh at least wanting to keep escalation in Iran on the table, I I do escalation in Iran on the table, I I do escalation in Iran on the table, I I do think that, you know, he's saying to the think that, you know, he's saying to the think that, you know, he's saying to the Russians like now is not the time. You Russians like now is not the time. You Russians like now is not the time. You better back off. You better you better better back off. You better you better better back off. You better you better not escalate. You better just take all not escalate. You better just take all not escalate. You better just take all the hits that you've been getting. You the hits that you've been getting. You the hits that you've been getting. You better just keep taking those on the better just keep taking those on the better just keep taking those on the chin because, you know, the Ukrainians chin because, you know, the Ukrainians chin because, you know, the Ukrainians have been targeting a lot of energy have been targeting a lot of energy have been targeting a lot of energy infrastructure inside Russia. They've infrastructure inside Russia. They've infrastructure inside Russia. They've targeted Russian civilians. They've done targeted Russian civilians. They've done targeted Russian civilians. They've done targeted assassinations uh of political targeted assassinations uh of political targeted assassinations uh of political officials. So I I you know the Russians officials. So I I you know the Russians officials. So I I you know the Russians at some point are going to have to at some point are going to have to at some point are going to have to respond. So I would imagine we are

respond. So I would imagine we are respond. So I would imagine we are asking the Russians if not demanding asking the Russians if not demanding asking the Russians if not demanding that the Russians don't respond outside that the Russians don't respond outside that the Russians don't respond outside of the battlefield in inside Ukraine. of the battlefield in inside Ukraine. of the battlefield in inside Ukraine. Now why the Russians would feel any Now why the Russians would feel any Now why the Russians would feel any obligation whatsoever to listen to us at obligation whatsoever to listen to us at obligation whatsoever to listen to us at this point I don't know. I mean this is this point I don't know. I mean this is this point I don't know. I mean this is a big problem with the sanctions package a big problem with the sanctions package a big problem with the sanctions package the Biden administration threw at the the Biden administration threw at the the Biden administration threw at the Russians kicking them off swift. you Russians kicking them off swift. you Russians kicking them off swift. you know, the the you know, the the thought know, the the you know, the the thought know, the the you know, the the thought process there was we were going to process there was we were going to process there was we were going to really hurt Russia, but in really really hurt Russia, but in really really hurt Russia, but in really hurting them, we kind of took away a lot hurting them, we kind of took away a lot hurting them, we kind of took away a lot of the leverage that we had. Uh if we of the leverage that we had. Uh if we of the leverage that we had. Uh if we were still doing a lot of trade with were still doing a lot of trade with were still doing a lot of trade with Russia, we'd have different levers that Russia, we'd have different levers that Russia, we'd have different levers that we could pull. But right now, since we could pull. But right now, since we could pull. But right now, since we've taken away a lot of those we've taken away a lot of those we've taken away a lot of those different options, we're basically at different options, we're basically at different options, we're basically at this, you know, this kinetic almost this, you know, this kinetic almost this, you know, this kinetic almost kinetic phase, pre-kinetic phase, where kinetic phase, pre-kinetic phase, where kinetic phase, pre-kinetic phase, where we just say like, if you do this, then we just say like, if you do this, then we just say like, if you do this, then we're going to do some other kind of we're going to do some other kind of we're going to do some other kind of kinetic action. So again, it's it's very kinetic action. So again, it's it's very kinetic action. So again, it's it's very dangerous. And again, I I don't know why dangerous. And again, I I don't know why dangerous. And again, I I don't know why the Russians would really take us very the Russians would really take us very the Russians would really take us very seriously at this point because seriously at this point because seriously at this point because President Trump said he was going to get President Trump said he was going to get President Trump said he was going to get a peace agreement. We never stopped a peace agreement. We never stopped a peace agreement. We never stopped funding the Ukrainians. We never stopped funding the Ukrainians. We never stopped funding the Ukrainians. We never stopped sharing intelligence with them. The sharing intelligence with them. The sharing intelligence with them. The Russians know what we're up to inside of Russians know what we're up to inside of Russians know what we're up to inside of Ukraine. So I I just don't know why the Ukraine. So I I just don't know why the Ukraine. So I I just don't know why the the Russians would really listen to any the Russians would really listen to any the Russians would really listen to any American official right now at this American official right now at this American official right now at this point based on our behaviors. So there's point based on our behaviors. So there's point based on our behaviors. So there's a lot going on in the world, as we often a lot going on in the world, as we often a lot going on in the world, as we often say. A new war in the Middle East, say. A new war in the Middle East, say. A new war in the Middle East, closure of the straight of Hormuz, the closure of the straight of Hormuz, the closure of the straight of Hormuz, the global energy crisis.

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Why do you think I mean I my read from Why do you think I mean I my read from talking to him a lot about it was that talking to him a lot about it was that talking to him a lot about it was that Trump was sincere in his desire to get Trump was sincere in his desire to get Trump was sincere in his desire to get this conflict over. He blamed Biden this conflict over. He blamed Biden this conflict over. He blamed Biden correctly for this conflict, the Russia correctly for this conflict, the Russia correctly for this conflict, the Russia Ukraine war. He didn't think it was good Ukraine war. He didn't think it was good Ukraine war. He didn't think it was good for the United States. He said in public for the United States. He said in public for the United States. He said in public repeatedly, "It just drives Russia to repeatedly, "It just drives Russia to repeatedly, "It just drives Russia to China. That's a threat to us. This is China. That's a threat to us. This is China. That's a threat to us. This is terrible. We should be friends with terrible. We should be friends with terrible. We should be friends with Russia." like or at least not at war Russia." like or at least not at war Russia." like or at least not at war with them and I can fix this in a day. with them and I can fix this in a day. with them and I can fix this in a day. He said that many of course was silly of He said that many of course was silly of He said that many of course was silly of course but he did want to fix it but he course but he did want to fix it but he course but he did want to fix it but he never really tried very hard and now never really tried very hard and now never really tried very hard and now he's prosecuting a war against Russia. he's prosecuting a war against Russia. he's prosecuting a war against Russia. Like how did that happen? Do you have Like how did that happen? Do you have Like how did that happen? Do you have any idea? any idea? any idea? I I I would say he never got full I I I would say he never got full I I I would say he never got full control of the CIA and our intelligence control of the CIA and our intelligence control of the CIA and our intelligence apparatus and the military-industrial apparatus and the military-industrial apparatus and the military-industrial complex. I mean, the military-industrial complex. I mean, the military-industrial complex. I mean, the military-industrial complex in terms of the weaponry that we complex in terms of the weaponry that we complex in terms of the weaponry that we were sending over to Ukraine, that's were sending over to Ukraine, that's were sending over to Ukraine, that's come back to bite us now that we've come back to bite us now that we've come back to bite us now that we've gotten into basically a conventional gotten into basically a conventional gotten into basically a conventional fight against Iran. But at the time, fight against Iran. But at the time, fight against Iran. But at the time, that was a cash cow for the that was a cash cow for the that was a cash cow for the military-industrial complex. But also military-industrial complex. But also military-industrial complex. But also post war on terror, post Afghanistan post war on terror, post Afghanistan post war on terror, post Afghanistan withdraw. I mean, the CIA was looking withdraw. I mean, the CIA was looking withdraw. I mean, the CIA was looking for, you know, a new mission. The the for, you know, a new mission. The the for, you know, a new mission. The the whole intelligence community was looking whole intelligence community was looking whole intelligence community was looking for a new mission. They found one. Biden for a new mission. They found one. Biden for a new mission. They found one. Biden gave them one with this proxy war inside gave them one with this proxy war inside gave them one with this proxy war inside Ukraine. And so because the president Ukraine. And so because the president Ukraine. And so because the president didn't go in and you know I would say didn't go in and you know I would say didn't go in and you know I would say micromanage that all being shut down in micromanage that all being shut down in micromanage that all being shut down in order to get the Ukrainians to the order to get the Ukrainians to the order to get the Ukrainians to the negotiating table. All of that just kept negotiating table. All of that just kept negotiating table. All of that just kept turnurning in the background. And and turnurning in the background. And and turnurning in the background. And and that's a big thing that I learned in that's a big thing that I learned in that's a big thing that I learned in inside government especially in the inside government especially in the inside government especially in the first Trump administration when Trump first Trump administration when Trump first Trump administration when Trump tried to get us out of uh Syria that

tried to get us out of uh Syria that tried to get us out of uh Syria that cost my late wife her life. Uh and then cost my late wife her life. Uh and then cost my late wife her life. Uh and then also in Afghanistan. The same thing also in Afghanistan. The same thing also in Afghanistan. The same thing happened. I mean the president said I I happened. I mean the president said I I happened. I mean the president said I I want out of these conflicts. Go make it want out of these conflicts. Go make it want out of these conflicts. Go make it happen. you know, at one point in time, happen. you know, at one point in time, happen. you know, at one point in time, he's having to pass handwritten notes to he's having to pass handwritten notes to he's having to pass handwritten notes to his aids because he doesn't trust the his aids because he doesn't trust the his aids because he doesn't trust the system. I mean, he should have learned system. I mean, he should have learned system. I mean, he should have learned that you have to micromanage these that you have to micromanage these that you have to micromanage these things almost, you know, like a psycho. things almost, you know, like a psycho. things almost, you know, like a psycho. You have to go in and say like, I want You have to go in and say like, I want You have to go in and say like, I want these done here, steps 1 through 10, and these done here, steps 1 through 10, and these done here, steps 1 through 10, and I'm going to be supervising every single I'm going to be supervising every single I'm going to be supervising every single step if you're going to be serious about step if you're going to be serious about step if you're going to be serious about actually making the intelligence actually making the intelligence actually making the intelligence community and the Department of Defense community and the Department of Defense community and the Department of Defense do what you say. So, this is a big do what you say. So, this is a big do what you say. So, this is a big problem in Ukraine. came in and he said problem in Ukraine. came in and he said problem in Ukraine. came in and he said he wanted negotiations but he didn't he wanted negotiations but he didn't he wanted negotiations but he didn't aggressively go and shut off all the aggressively go and shut off all the aggressively go and shut off all the offensive capabilities that we are offensive capabilities that we are offensive capabilities that we are giving the Ukrainians and the Russians giving the Ukrainians and the Russians giving the Ukrainians and the Russians saw that and and right you know that's saw that and and right you know that's saw that and and right you know that's where you have Putin saying like okay where you have Putin saying like okay where you have Putin saying like okay well the president may have changed out well the president may have changed out well the president may have changed out but the men what whatever phrase Putin but the men what whatever phrase Putin but the men what whatever phrase Putin uses the men in the dark suits are still uses the men in the dark suits are still uses the men in the dark suits are still in charge you know because he sees that in charge you know because he sees that in charge you know because he sees that even though Trump came in and Trump uses even though Trump came in and Trump uses even though Trump came in and Trump uses much different rhetoric than than Biden much different rhetoric than than Biden much different rhetoric than than Biden and may have the best of intentions at and may have the best of intentions at and may have the best of intentions at the end of the day the battlefield the end of the day the battlefield the end of the day the battlefield realities didn't change in Ukraine so realities didn't change in Ukraine so realities didn't change in Ukraine so Putin just said okay you know like I I Putin just said okay you know like I I Putin just said okay you know like I I don't really care. Might be a new guy.

don't really care. Might be a new guy. don't really care. Might be a new guy. He might say he wants some talks, but He might say he wants some talks, but He might say he wants some talks, but we're not changing what we're doing. we're not changing what we're doing. we're not changing what we're doing. This is existential for, you know, for This is existential for, you know, for This is existential for, you know, for his country. So, he's going to continue his country. So, he's going to continue his country. So, he's going to continue on. And I think President Trump got on. And I think President Trump got on. And I think President Trump got really frustrated that Putin didn't really frustrated that Putin didn't really frustrated that Putin didn't automatically change his behavior. But automatically change his behavior. But automatically change his behavior. But the reason why Putin didn't change his the reason why Putin didn't change his the reason why Putin didn't change his behavior is because we didn't change the behavior is because we didn't change the behavior is because we didn't change the intelligence apparatus that was propping intelligence apparatus that was propping intelligence apparatus that was propping up Ukraine and going on the offensive up Ukraine and going on the offensive up Ukraine and going on the offensive against Russia. against Russia. against Russia. >> Yeah. I don't I don't think one in a >> Yeah. I don't I don't think one in a >> Yeah. I don't I don't think one in a thousand Americans understands that thousand Americans understands that thousand Americans understands that we're at war with Russia, that we're we're at war with Russia, that we're we're at war with Russia, that we're running that war with Russia. Um, and running that war with Russia. Um, and running that war with Russia. Um, and that we're doing it in a way that's that we're doing it in a way that's that we're doing it in a way that's totally outside of civilian control. totally outside of civilian control. totally outside of civilian control. Like, no elected leader has control Like, no elected leader has control Like, no elected leader has control over our government and o and and over over our government and o and and over over our government and o and and over this war. I mean, that that that's not this war. I mean, that that that's not this war. I mean, that that that's not democracy. democracy. democracy. It's not. And this is a huge problem. It's not. And this is a huge problem. It's not. And this is a huge problem. Um, we need people who understand how Um, we need people who understand how Um, we need people who understand how the intelligence community works and the intelligence community works and the intelligence community works and functions. A lot of times even guys like functions. A lot of times even guys like functions. A lot of times even guys like like Ratcliffe like even though he was like Ratcliffe like even though he was like Ratcliffe like even though he was the DNI before he doesn't have a the DNI before he doesn't have a the DNI before he doesn't have a background in the intelligence background in the intelligence background in the intelligence community. So when he comes in the community. So when he comes in the community. So when he comes in the intelligence community is great at intelligence community is great at intelligence community is great at receiving him and making him feel like receiving him and making him feel like receiving him and making him feel like you know he's the number one you know you know he's the number one you know you know he's the number one you know spy master he runs the CIA etc. But you spy master he runs the CIA etc. But you spy master he runs the CIA etc. But you know he doesn't understand the nuts and know he doesn't understand the nuts and know he doesn't understand the nuts and bolts of how it actually runs. And so bolts of how it actually runs. And so bolts of how it actually runs. And so the apparatus keeps on churning and the apparatus keeps on churning and the apparatus keeps on churning and doing what whatever it is that it wants doing what whatever it is that it wants doing what whatever it is that it wants to do. and it's already set on an to do. and it's already set on an to do. and it's already set on an azmouth and ran by people who have azmouth and ran by people who have azmouth and ran by people who have viewed Russia as an existential threat viewed Russia as an existential threat viewed Russia as an existential threat to America, you know, for a wide variety to America, you know, for a wide variety to America, you know, for a wide variety of reasons now, but but for decades. And of reasons now, but but for decades. And of reasons now, but but for decades. And they got the mission of a lifetime when they got the mission of a lifetime when they got the mission of a lifetime when Biden allowed them to go over and Biden allowed them to go over and Biden allowed them to go over and support the Ukrainians. And so even even support the Ukrainians. And so even even support the Ukrainians. And so even even really if if we look at it, you know,

really if if we look at it, you know, really if if we look at it, you know, charitably and say that Rackcliffe came charitably and say that Rackcliffe came charitably and say that Rackcliffe came in there and attempted to do everything in there and attempted to do everything in there and attempted to do everything he could, he's one of two political he could, he's one of two political he could, he's one of two political appointees at the CIA. And so without appointees at the CIA. And so without appointees at the CIA. And so without those two having intimate knowledge of those two having intimate knowledge of those two having intimate knowledge of how the CIA runs in particular, you how the CIA runs in particular, you how the CIA runs in particular, you know, a lot of the the pointy edge know, a lot of the the pointy edge know, a lot of the the pointy edge programs of the CIA, uh they didn't programs of the CIA, uh they didn't programs of the CIA, uh they didn't really have the ability to go in there really have the ability to go in there really have the ability to go in there and start changing things. And then the and start changing things. And then the and start changing things. And then the president immediately got frustrated and president immediately got frustrated and president immediately got frustrated and thought that, you know, you know, Putin thought that, you know, you know, Putin thought that, you know, you know, Putin was just trying to rub it in his face. was just trying to rub it in his face. was just trying to rub it in his face. And so then we're at this point where And so then we're at this point where And so then we're at this point where the president says, "Okay, well maybe I the president says, "Okay, well maybe I the president says, "Okay, well maybe I will go with what the Europeans are will go with what the Europeans are will go with what the Europeans are saying." And then you get the saying." And then you get the saying." And then you get the military-industrial complex that comes military-industrial complex that comes military-industrial complex that comes in and shows him all the incentives um in and shows him all the incentives um in and shows him all the incentives um for continuing the war. And then next for continuing the war. And then next for continuing the war. And then next thing you know, we're now here in almost thing you know, we're now here in almost thing you know, we're now here in almost the second year of the Trump the second year of the Trump the second year of the Trump administration and the wars, you know, administration and the wars, you know, administration and the wars, you know, becoming more and more dangerous, becoming more and more dangerous, becoming more and more dangerous, potentially going nuclear and potentially going nuclear and potentially going nuclear and potentially expanding past the borders potentially expanding past the borders potentially expanding past the borders of Ukraine. of Ukraine. of Ukraine. >> Do do you think either one of these >> Do do you think either one of these >> Do do you think either one of these conflicts, Russia or Iran, is fixable in conflicts, Russia or Iran, is fixable in conflicts, Russia or Iran, is fixable in the short term? the short term? the short term? >> In the short term, with the right >> In the short term, with the right >> In the short term, with the right leadership, um I I think they are. I leadership, um I I think they are. I leadership, um I I think they are. I mean, I still remain optimistic. Um, mean, I still remain optimistic. Um, mean, I still remain optimistic. Um, even though you know, President Trump even though you know, President Trump even though you know, President Trump might not uh like like me or you very might not uh like like me or you very might not uh like like me or you very much, I still think he's very capable.

much, I still think he's very capable. much, I still think he's very capable. If he decided uh to reclaim his agency If he decided uh to reclaim his agency If he decided uh to reclaim his agency and he took some some drastic measures, and he took some some drastic measures, and he took some some drastic measures, I think he could turn them around. I I think he could turn them around. I I think he could turn them around. I think if he if he pulled our troops and think if he if he pulled our troops and think if he if he pulled our troops and our blockade uh out of the Middle East, our blockade uh out of the Middle East, our blockade uh out of the Middle East, if he with withheld the Israelis, like if he with withheld the Israelis, like if he with withheld the Israelis, like seriously started pulling away a lot of seriously started pulling away a lot of seriously started pulling away a lot of aid from the Israelis and went to the aid from the Israelis and went to the aid from the Israelis and went to the Iranians and said, "Hey, if you guys Iranians and said, "Hey, if you guys Iranians and said, "Hey, if you guys want sanctions relief, if if you want want sanctions relief, if if you want want sanctions relief, if if you want your assets unfrozen, let's talk shop your assets unfrozen, let's talk shop your assets unfrozen, let's talk shop about how we open up the Straits of about how we open up the Straits of about how we open up the Straits of Hormuz and we'll work out everything Hormuz and we'll work out everything Hormuz and we'll work out everything else there." And I think that would take else there." And I think that would take else there." And I think that would take down the tensions. There' still be a lot down the tensions. There' still be a lot down the tensions. There' still be a lot of diplomatic work we'd have to do, but of diplomatic work we'd have to do, but of diplomatic work we'd have to do, but that would take down the tensions. That that would take down the tensions. That that would take down the tensions. That would take down any potential of the war would take down any potential of the war would take down any potential of the war expanding. It would get the Straits of expanding. It would get the Straits of expanding. It would get the Straits of Hormuz opened back up again. It would be Hormuz opened back up again. It would be Hormuz opened back up again. It would be clunky. It wouldn't be pretty, but I clunky. It wouldn't be pretty, but I clunky. It wouldn't be pretty, but I think it would work. And I think think it would work. And I think think it would work. And I think President Trump could could do that. He President Trump could could do that. He President Trump could could do that. He would just have to again micromanage it would just have to again micromanage it would just have to again micromanage it almost like a psychopath. And then I almost like a psychopath. And then I almost like a psychopath. And then I think Ukraine is going to be a little think Ukraine is going to be a little think Ukraine is going to be a little bit tougher of a lift, but I still think bit tougher of a lift, but I still think bit tougher of a lift, but I still think that he could do it. I think he could that he could do it. I think he could that he could do it. I think he could take down the tensions in Ukraine. Could take down the tensions in Ukraine. Could take down the tensions in Ukraine. Could could he completely end the war? That I could he completely end the war? That I could he completely end the war? That I don't know. I'm a little bit more don't know. I'm a little bit more don't know. I'm a little bit more skeptical on it because I think the skeptical on it because I think the skeptical on it because I think the Russians, again, they they view this as Russians, again, they they view this as Russians, again, they they view this as being existential to them. Um, but I being existential to them. Um, but I being existential to them. Um, but I think if we made it very clear that we think if we made it very clear that we think if we made it very clear that we don't think who controls the Donbass is don't think who controls the Donbass is don't think who controls the Donbass is existential to us because it's not.

existential to us because it's not. existential to us because it's not. There's no world that exists where who There's no world that exists where who There's no world that exists where who controls the Donbass or Crimea Crimea is controls the Donbass or Crimea Crimea is controls the Donbass or Crimea Crimea is existential to America. If we made that existential to America. If we made that existential to America. If we made that very very clear and we stopped all the very very clear and we stopped all the very very clear and we stopped all the support that we are giving to the support that we are giving to the support that we are giving to the Ukrainian government um and we exerted Ukrainian government um and we exerted Ukrainian government um and we exerted the control that we should have over our the control that we should have over our the control that we should have over our NATO partners to stop that and simply NATO partners to stop that and simply NATO partners to stop that and simply said, "Hey, we're we're walking away said, "Hey, we're we're walking away said, "Hey, we're we're walking away from this. We're happy to help broker a from this. We're happy to help broker a from this. We're happy to help broker a ceasefire." I think that would take down ceasefire." I think that would take down ceasefire." I think that would take down the potential of this thing becoming, the potential of this thing becoming, the potential of this thing becoming, you know, a nuclear event or expanding you know, a nuclear event or expanding you know, a nuclear event or expanding into into a wider war. So again, I I I into into a wider war. So again, I I I into into a wider war. So again, I I I really think that President Trump, if he really think that President Trump, if he really think that President Trump, if he decided to put his full, you know, full decided to put his full, you know, full decided to put his full, you know, full super political powers against both super political powers against both super political powers against both these problems, I think he could do it. these problems, I think he could do it. these problems, I think he could do it. And why he's not doing it, especially in And why he's not doing it, especially in And why he's not doing it, especially in the latter part of his presidency, I the latter part of his presidency, I the latter part of his presidency, I simply just don't understand. simply just don't understand. simply just don't understand. >> Yeah. Well, as as you said, that's the >> Yeah. Well, as as you said, that's the >> Yeah. Well, as as you said, that's the question of our era. You were the first question of our era. You were the first question of our era. You were the first person to raise it in public, and I hope person to raise it in public, and I hope person to raise it in public, and I hope that we get to an answer just for future that we get to an answer just for future that we get to an answer just for future generations. Joe Kent, thank you very generations. Joe Kent, thank you very generations. Joe Kent, thank you very much for that. It's great to see you. much for that. It's great to see you. much for that. It's great to see you. >> Absolutely. [music] Thanks,