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February 24 223 February 24 223 74 473 32 74 473 32 74 473 32 Fairfax County 911. Where's your Fairfax County 911. Where's your Fairfax County 911. Where's your emergency? >> Hello, Fairfax County 911. >> Hello, Fairfax County 911. >> That few second 911 call that came in to >> That few second 911 call that came in to >> That few second 911 call that came in to Fairfax County might not sound like a Fairfax County might not sound like a Fairfax County might not sound like a lot. I mean, the caller hung up right lot. I mean, the caller hung up right lot. I mean, the caller hung up right where it cut off after that groan. So, where it cut off after that groan. So, where it cut off after that groan. So, it tells a firsttime listener almost it tells a firsttime listener almost it tells a firsttime listener almost nothing. But that call would turn out to nothing. But that call would turn out to nothing. But that call would turn out to be everything. Prosecutors say that be everything. Prosecutors say that be everything. Prosecutors say that those few seconds are among the those few seconds are among the those few seconds are among the strongest pieces of evidence that a man strongest pieces of evidence that a man strongest pieces of evidence that a man named Joseph Ryan was murdered. And if named Joseph Ryan was murdered. And if named Joseph Ryan was murdered. And if that's true, then he was lured there and that's true, then he was lured there and that's true, then he was lured there and executed as a part of the same plan that executed as a part of the same plan that executed as a part of the same plan that got Christine Banfield killed. You can got Christine Banfield killed. You can got Christine Banfield killed. You can be the judge, but the legal systems be the judge, but the legal systems be the judge, but the legal systems already made up its mind. And two people already made up its mind. And two people already made up its mind. And two people are now serving time related to one of are now serving time related to one of are now serving time related to one of the sickest, most twisted premeditated the sickest, most twisted premeditated the sickest, most twisted premeditated plots I've ever heard of. A real plots I've ever heard of. A real plots I've ever heard of. A real reminder of crime junkie life rule reminder of crime junkie life rule reminder of crime junkie life rule number one. You never really know anyone number one. You never really know anyone number one. You never really know anyone ever. I'm Ashley Flowers. And I'm Brit.

ever. I'm Ashley Flowers. And I'm Brit. ever. I'm Ashley Flowers. And I'm Brit. Let's dive into the case. Crime junkies. After that odd 911 call came in, the After that odd 911 call came in, the dispatcher in Fairfax County, Virginia, dispatcher in Fairfax County, Virginia, dispatcher in Fairfax County, Virginia, tries calling the number back, but no tries calling the number back, but no tries calling the number back, but no one answers. And because it came from a one answers. And because it came from a one answers. And because it came from a cell phone, they can't pinpoint where to cell phone, they can't pinpoint where to cell phone, they can't pinpoint where to send police. So, they're kind of just send police. So, they're kind of just send police. So, they're kind of just stuck until 15 minutes later when the stuck until 15 minutes later when the stuck until 15 minutes later when the same phone number calls back. And this same phone number calls back. And this same phone number calls back. And this time, a frantic young woman is on the time, a frantic young woman is on the time, a frantic young woman is on the line. line. line. >> I need I need help. There is >> I need I need help. There is >> I need I need help. There is my my friend. She just wasn't attacking my my friend. She just wasn't attacking my my friend. She just wasn't attacking the mic. Now she's hurting my lot. I the mic. Now she's hurting my lot. I the mic. Now she's hurting my lot. I don't know what to do anymore. don't know what to do anymore. don't know what to do anymore. >> Okay. Where are you located? What's your >> Okay. Where are you located? What's your >> Okay. Where are you located? What's your address? address? address? >> Um at the Oh my god. >> Um at the Oh my god. >> Um at the Oh my god. >> Take a deep breath for me. Just let me >> Take a deep breath for me. Just let me >> Take a deep breath for me. Just let me know your address. know your address. know your address. >> 13. >> 13. >> 13. >> Okay. 13.

>> Take a deep breath for me. You're you're >> Take a deep breath for me. You're you're on Stable Brook. on Stable Brook. on Stable Brook. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> What's your number? >> What's your number? >> What's your number? >> It's um um >> It's um um >> It's um um >> Is there somebody else there that can >> Is there somebody else there that can >> Is there somebody else there that can give me the address? >> Okay. And what's your name and what's >> Okay. And what's your name and what's going on? going on? going on? >> My name is My name is Brennan Banfield. >> My name is My name is Brennan Banfield. >> My name is My name is Brennan Banfield. I'm a I'm a f I'm a federal agent. This I'm a I'm a f I'm a federal agent. This I'm a I'm a f I'm a federal agent. This is my house. There's somebody There's is my house. There's somebody There's is my house. There's somebody There's somebody here. Uh, I I shot I shot him. somebody here. Uh, I I shot I shot him. somebody here. Uh, I I shot I shot him. Um, but he stabbed her. She's bleeding. Um, but he stabbed her. She's bleeding. Um, but he stabbed her. She's bleeding. She's got several several marks on her She's got several several marks on her She's got several several marks on her neck. What do I What do I do? neck. What do I What do I do? neck. What do I What do I do? >> Okay. So, what I need you to do is apply >> Okay. So, what I need you to do is apply >> Okay. So, what I need you to do is apply direct pressure directly to where she's direct pressure directly to where she's direct pressure directly to where she's bleeding from. Okay. And if it becomes, bleeding from. Okay. And if it becomes, bleeding from. Okay. And if it becomes, just add more cloth to what it's already just add more cloth to what it's already just add more cloth to what it's already there. there. there. >> How old is the person? >> How old is the person? >> How old is the person? >> I I don't know. >> I I don't know. >> I I don't know. >> The person that's bleeding, >> The person that's bleeding, >> The person that's bleeding, >> uh, 37. >> uh, 37. >> uh, 37. >> Okay. So, the person that you shot, >> Okay. So, the person that you shot, >> Okay. So, the person that you shot, where is he? where is he? where is he? >> I don't know. I don't know him.

>> I don't know. I don't know him. >> I don't know. I don't know him. >> Okay. Where is he, though? >> Okay. Where is he, though? >> Okay. Where is he, though? >> He's here. He's on the ground. >> He's here. He's on the ground. >> He's here. He's on the ground. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. Okay. And the person that he stabbed, Okay. And the person that he stabbed, Okay. And the person that he stabbed, where are they now? Are they still in where are they now? Are they still in where are they now? Are they still in that? that? that? >> I have to see you. >> EMS and Fairfax County police head to >> EMS and Fairfax County police head to the Bfield's home, a large brickfront the Bfield's home, a large brickfront the Bfield's home, a large brickfront colonial tucked into a quiet culde-sac colonial tucked into a quiet culde-sac colonial tucked into a quiet culde-sac in the DC suburb of H. in the DC suburb of H. in the DC suburb of H. They're let in and led upstairs by the They're let in and led upstairs by the They're let in and led upstairs by the family's opair. She is who called 911 family's opair. She is who called 911 family's opair. She is who called 911 and she directs them to the main bedroom and she directs them to the main bedroom and she directs them to the main bedroom where they see the bed is stripped with where they see the bed is stripped with where they see the bed is stripped with bloody linens on the floor. Two guns are bloody linens on the floor. Two guns are bloody linens on the floor. Two guns are on the bare mattress and Brendan is on the bare mattress and Brendan is on the bare mattress and Brendan is kneeling on a towel beside the bed next kneeling on a towel beside the bed next kneeling on a towel beside the bed next to his naked wife, 37year-old Christine to his naked wife, 37year-old Christine to his naked wife, 37year-old Christine Banfield. and he's using his bare hands Banfield. and he's using his bare hands Banfield. and he's using his bare hands to stop the bleeding that's coming from to stop the bleeding that's coming from to stop the bleeding that's coming from stab wounds in her neck. And lying at stab wounds in her neck. And lying at stab wounds in her neck. And lying at top a dog bed against the bed frame, the top a dog bed against the bed frame, the top a dog bed against the bed frame, the officers see the stranger that Brendan officers see the stranger that Brendan officers see the stranger that Brendan said he shot. Under the dog bed by his said he shot. Under the dog bed by his said he shot. Under the dog bed by his head, they find Christine's underwear head, they find Christine's underwear head, they find Christine's underwear ripped at the crotch. And nearby is ripped at the crotch. And nearby is ripped at the crotch. And nearby is what's believed to be one of her shirts what's believed to be one of her shirts what's believed to be one of her shirts with a jagged cut down the back. Now, with a jagged cut down the back. Now, with a jagged cut down the back. Now, paramedics go to each person, but the paramedics go to each person, but the paramedics go to each person, but the man is already beyond saving. There's man is already beyond saving. There's man is already beyond saving. There's still hope for Christine, though. She is still hope for Christine, though. She is still hope for Christine, though. She is breathing. So EMS rushes her to an breathing. So EMS rushes her to an breathing. So EMS rushes her to an ambulance waiting outside while ambulance waiting outside while ambulance waiting outside while responders inside try to get a handle on responders inside try to get a handle on responders inside try to get a handle on this chaotic scene, including tending to this chaotic scene, including tending to this chaotic scene, including tending to Brendan, who seems unable to even stand Brendan, who seems unable to even stand Brendan, who seems unable to even stand on his own.

on his own. on his own. >> Can you check him out? >> Can you check him out? >> Can you check him out? >> Yeah, I got I got more units here. We'll >> Yeah, I got I got more units here. We'll >> Yeah, I got I got more units here. We'll check him out. >> Stay with me. >> Stay with me. What did you say? >> We're going to have to get him out of >> We're going to have to get him out of here. here. here. >> Yeah, I know. >> Yeah, I know. >> Yeah, I know. >> Can you give him a second to talk about >> Can you give him a second to talk about >> Can you give him a second to talk about anything else? anything else? anything else? >> Let me change my gloves out. We can get >> Let me change my gloves out. We can get >> Let me change my gloves out. We can get him out of here. >> Knife's there. Guns are on the bed. >> Knife's there. Guns are on the bed. Right here, the officer standing closest Right here, the officer standing closest Right here, the officer standing closest to Brendan mouths in the direction of to Brendan mouths in the direction of to Brendan mouths in the direction of the body cam. He doesn't know. He says the body cam. He doesn't know. He says the body cam. He doesn't know. He says it twice, but it's not totally clear it twice, but it's not totally clear it twice, but it's not totally clear what he means cuz Christine was still what he means cuz Christine was still what he means cuz Christine was still alive at the house. But I mean, it's alive at the house. But I mean, it's alive at the house. But I mean, it's possible that anyone with medical possible that anyone with medical possible that anyone with medical training would know that her injuries training would know that her injuries training would know that her injuries were bad, likely not survivable.

>> I think >> I think I'm just giving you some fresh air right I'm just giving you some fresh air right I'm just giving you some fresh air right now at the globe. Yeah. So, we can get now at the globe. Yeah. So, we can get now at the globe. Yeah. So, we can get you outside. Can you glove on? you outside. Can you glove on? you outside. Can you glove on? >> Can you help him just >> you say Vienna? >> you say Vienna? >> Easy. >> Easy. >> Easy. >> Sorry. Say it again. >> Sorry. Say it again. >> Sorry. Say it again. >> So, you my office is in Vienna. Correct. >> So, you my office is in Vienna. Correct. >> So, you my office is in Vienna. Correct. Did you Did you Did you could you call my office? No, could you call my office? No, could you call my office? No, >> I need I need to call my manager at some >> I need I need to call my manager at some >> I need I need to call my manager at some point. point. point. It's It's It's >> the least of our worries right now, man. >> the least of our worries right now, man. >> the least of our worries right now, man. >> We're just going to get you in a cruiser >> We're just going to get you in a cruiser >> We're just going to get you in a cruiser outside in the air where you can outside in the air where you can outside in the air where you can breathe. breathe. breathe. >> Brendan is escorted out to his front >> Brendan is escorted out to his front >> Brendan is escorted out to his front lawn. They want to get him in an lawn. They want to get him in an lawn. They want to get him in an ambulance to make sure that he's not ambulance to make sure that he's not ambulance to make sure that he's not injured at all. He's limping a little, injured at all. He's limping a little, injured at all. He's limping a little, but he says he doesn't know what's but he says he doesn't know what's but he says he doesn't know what's wrong. He seems to just kind of be in wrong. He seems to just kind of be in wrong. He seems to just kind of be in shock as he hangs his head and stares at shock as he hangs his head and stares at shock as he hangs his head and stares at the ground.

the ground. the ground. Just take some deep breaths. All right. Just take some deep breaths. All right. Just take some deep breaths. All right. You need to sit down somewhere. >> Is there a way to get an update >> Is there a way to get an update >> right now? Right now. >> right now? Right now. >> right now? Right now. >> They're handling everything from here. >> You can. >> You can. >> Is anything bothering you right now? >> Is anything bothering you right now? >> Is anything bothering you right now? >> Uh, I just chilling and steady. >> Uh, I just chilling and steady. >> Uh, I just chilling and steady. >> Okay. Were you hit with anything? A >> Okay. Were you hit with anything? A >> Okay. Were you hit with anything? A knife? Anything? knife? Anything? knife? Anything? >> No. I I took I took the knife. I took >> No. I I took I took the knife. I took >> No. I I took I took the knife. I took the knife from him. the knife from him. the knife from him. >> Okay. All right. So, you're not hurt >> Okay. All right. So, you're not hurt >> Okay. All right. So, you're not hurt anywhere. Is that not your blood? anywhere. Is that not your blood? anywhere. Is that not your blood? Correct. Correct. Correct. >> I I think it's >> I I think it's >> I I think it's >> all right. You want to slip this jacket >> all right. You want to slip this jacket >> all right. You want to slip this jacket off for me so we can evaluate. off for me so we can evaluate. off for me so we can evaluate. >> They check him out, but Brendan is >> They check him out, but Brendan is >> They check him out, but Brendan is basically physically unharmed, although basically physically unharmed, although basically physically unharmed, although he thinks maybe the stranger struck him he thinks maybe the stranger struck him he thinks maybe the stranger struck him once. But when they get to the hospital, once. But when they get to the hospital, once. But when they get to the hospital, he overhears someone talking about his he overhears someone talking about his he overhears someone talking about his wife. Christine, wife. Christine, wife. Christine, >> stay seated on the bed for me. >> stay seated on the bed for me. >> stay seated on the bed for me. He just said that she's He just said that she's He just said that she's >> I didn't hear what she said. So >> I didn't hear what she said. So >> I didn't hear what she said. So >> the um stuff probably needs to be >> the um stuff probably needs to be >> the um stuff probably needs to be switched out.

switched out. switched out. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Can you have someone check with him >> Can you have someone check with him >> Can you have someone check with him here? here? here? >> Okay. What is the nature of the >> Okay. What is the nature of the >> Okay. What is the nature of the incident? incident? incident? >> Check what? >> Check what? >> Check what? >> The status of his wife, man. >> The status of his wife, man. >> The status of his wife, man. >> Sir, my name is D. I'm one of the >> Sir, my name is D. I'm one of the >> Sir, my name is D. I'm one of the doctors here. Um your wife has died. The doctor stays with Brendan as he The doctor stays with Brendan as he cries and she offers to try and answer cries and she offers to try and answer cries and she offers to try and answer any questions he has. any questions he has. any questions he has. >> Um, so is there any part that I can >> Um, so is there any part that I can >> Um, so is there any part that I can help? You know, I can explain what help? You know, I can explain what help? You know, I can explain what happened when she arrived here, but you happened when she arrived here, but you happened when she arrived here, but you were there and it sounds like there was were there and it sounds like there was were there and it sounds like there was a lot of blood loss. a lot of blood loss. a lot of blood loss. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> So, I think that um she died of blood >> So, I think that um she died of blood >> So, I think that um she died of blood loss. Um, her airway was actually okay. loss. Um, her airway was actually okay. loss. Um, her airway was actually okay. I'll call the medical examiner, of I'll call the medical examiner, of I'll call the medical examiner, of course, and we'll we'll um do an autopsy course, and we'll we'll um do an autopsy course, and we'll we'll um do an autopsy and make sure we know for certain, but and make sure we know for certain, but and make sure we know for certain, but um um um >> I was trying to apply pressure. >> I was trying to apply pressure. >> I was trying to apply pressure. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I mean, those were enormous wounds and >> I mean, those were enormous wounds and >> I mean, those were enormous wounds and you know, it's not you know, it's not you know, it's not >> there was so many there were so many.

>> there was so many there were so many. >> there was so many there were so many. >> Yes. And the neck is not compressible. >> Yes. And the neck is not compressible. >> Yes. And the neck is not compressible. So, it's not possible really to stop all So, it's not possible really to stop all So, it's not possible really to stop all the blood loss and uh her airway it the blood loss and uh her airway it the blood loss and uh her airway it seems like was in the midline. Okay. She seems like was in the midline. Okay. She seems like was in the midline. Okay. She was able to be intubated. Everything was able to be intubated. Everything was able to be intubated. Everything that was possible to be done was done that was possible to be done was done that was possible to be done was done for her right away. You did a wonderful, for her right away. You did a wonderful, for her right away. You did a wonderful, you know, you did everything that was you know, you did everything that was you know, you did everything that was possible. It's not a survivable injury. possible. It's not a survivable injury. possible. It's not a survivable injury. Brendan had just turned 38 the day Brendan had just turned 38 the day Brendan had just turned 38 the day before this. Now he's a widowerower and before this. Now he's a widowerower and before this. Now he's a widowerower and a single dad to his and Christine's a single dad to his and Christine's a single dad to his and Christine's four-year-old daughter. Police want to four-year-old daughter. Police want to four-year-old daughter. Police want to give him some space, but they need to give him some space, but they need to give him some space, but they need to know what happened. Except Brendan isn't know what happened. Except Brendan isn't know what happened. Except Brendan isn't just going to be an open book. Like I just going to be an open book. Like I just going to be an open book. Like I don't know if you caught it on the 911 don't know if you caught it on the 911 don't know if you caught it on the 911 call, but he said that he was a federal call, but he said that he was a federal call, but he said that he was a federal agent, works for the Internal Revenue agent, works for the Internal Revenue agent, works for the Internal Revenue Service, IRS, criminal investigation Service, IRS, criminal investigation Service, IRS, criminal investigation division. So he knows the life rule that division. So he knows the life rule that division. So he knows the life rule that we preach. Always get a lawyer, right? we preach. Always get a lawyer, right? we preach. Always get a lawyer, right? >> He has already given a little bit of >> He has already given a little bit of >> He has already given a little bit of information, like kind of jumbled in the information, like kind of jumbled in the information, like kind of jumbled in the 911 call and a little bit to first 911 call and a little bit to first 911 call and a little bit to first responders that an intruder was responders that an intruder was responders that an intruder was attacking his wife. he shot the intruder attacking his wife. he shot the intruder attacking his wife. he shot the intruder and he confirms that the two guns that and he confirms that the two guns that and he confirms that the two guns that were sitting on the mattress were his.

were sitting on the mattress were his. were sitting on the mattress were his. But that is about all he's ready to say. But that is about all he's ready to say. But that is about all he's ready to say. Police aren't totally in the dark though Police aren't totally in the dark though Police aren't totally in the dark though because while Brendan was at the because while Brendan was at the because while Brendan was at the hospital, the family's opair and the hospital, the family's opair and the hospital, the family's opair and the Banfield's little girl who she nannies Banfield's little girl who she nannies Banfield's little girl who she nannies for, are at the police station. Her name for, are at the police station. Her name for, are at the police station. Her name is Juliana Perez Magalanis, a 22year-old is Juliana Perez Magalanis, a 22year-old is Juliana Perez Magalanis, a 22year-old Brazilian woman who came to the US Brazilian woman who came to the US Brazilian woman who came to the US through an OPAIR program nearly a year through an OPAIR program nearly a year through an OPAIR program nearly a year and a half prior. like back in October and a half prior. like back in October and a half prior. like back in October of 2021. And since then, she had been of 2021. And since then, she had been of 2021. And since then, she had been living with the Banfields, caring for living with the Banfields, caring for living with the Banfields, caring for their daughter. their daughter. their daughter. >> They're almost a year and a half. >> They're almost a year and a half. >> They're almost a year and a half. >> Um, tell me about the family. >> Um, tell me about the family. >> Um, tell me about the family. >> Oh, I don't have anything to complain >> Oh, I don't have anything to complain >> Oh, I don't have anything to complain about them. They are amazing. They they about them. They are amazing. They they about them. They are amazing. They they always amazing. Um, always amazing. Um, always amazing. Um, the sweetest ever. Uh, they always treat the sweetest ever. Uh, they always treat the sweetest ever. Uh, they always treat me really well as a family. We always me really well as a family. We always me really well as a family. We always did things like family. did things like family. did things like family. Um, what about the relationship between Um, what about the relationship between Um, what about the relationship between mom and dad? mom and dad? mom and dad? >> Oh, they are really good with each >> Oh, they are really good with each >> Oh, they are really good with each other. They have a they are super other. They have a they are super other. They have a they are super stable. I never seen like anything like stable. I never seen like anything like stable. I never seen like anything like you know discussing or anything. It's you know discussing or anything. It's you know discussing or anything. It's still positive. It's they are super still positive. It's they are super still positive. It's they are super I don't know how to say super.

I don't know how to say super. I don't know how to say super. >> They get along well. They're friendly. >> They get along well. They're friendly. >> They get along well. They're friendly. You don't see them fight very often? You don't see them fight very often? You don't see them fight very often? >> No. No. I never I never seem they >> No. No. I never I never seem they >> No. No. I never I never seem they fighting. No. You never seen him fight? fighting. No. You never seen him fight? fighting. No. You never seen him fight? >> No. There at home, everyone is calm and >> No. There at home, everyone is calm and >> No. There at home, everyone is calm and we talk. We don't yell. We don't, you we talk. We don't yell. We don't, you we talk. We don't yell. We don't, you know, don't have uh fights. We never do. know, don't have uh fights. We never do. know, don't have uh fights. We never do. >> Like when you say fights, do you mean >> Like when you say fights, do you mean >> Like when you say fights, do you mean yelling fights or physical fights? yelling fights or physical fights? yelling fights or physical fights? >> Yeah. Or fights. Yeah. I >> Yeah. Or fights. Yeah. I >> Yeah. Or fights. Yeah. I >> either verbal or physical. >> either verbal or physical. >> either verbal or physical. >> No, never. >> No, never. >> No, never. >> Never heard anything. >> Never heard anything. >> Never heard anything. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Juliana tells police that Friday was >> Juliana tells police that Friday was >> Juliana tells police that Friday was supposed to be a normal day. Brendan had supposed to be a normal day. Brendan had supposed to be a normal day. Brendan had left for work early and Christine left for work early and Christine left for work early and Christine planned for Juliana to take their little planned for Juliana to take their little planned for Juliana to take their little girl to a zoo in DC. It opened at 8:00 girl to a zoo in DC. It opened at 8:00 girl to a zoo in DC. It opened at 8:00 a.m. So, they headed out at around 7:20, a.m. So, they headed out at around 7:20, a.m. So, they headed out at around 7:20, 7:30 a.m. But before they even left the 7:30 a.m. But before they even left the 7:30 a.m. But before they even left the street, Juliana realized that she had street, Juliana realized that she had street, Juliana realized that she had forgotten their lunches. So, she was forgotten their lunches. So, she was forgotten their lunches. So, she was just going to run back in. But then she just going to run back in. But then she just going to run back in. But then she saw an unfamiliar gray jeep pull into saw an unfamiliar gray jeep pull into saw an unfamiliar gray jeep pull into the driveway like before she could. and the driveway like before she could. and the driveway like before she could. and a man that she had never seen before a man that she had never seen before a man that she had never seen before parked got out carrying a backpack or parked got out carrying a backpack or parked got out carrying a backpack or something and walked inside like he something and walked inside like he something and walked inside like he owned the place. Now, she said she tried owned the place. Now, she said she tried owned the place. Now, she said she tried calling Christine, who was still inside, calling Christine, who was still inside, calling Christine, who was still inside, but it went straight to voicemail. So, but it went straight to voicemail. So, but it went straight to voicemail. So, that's when she called Brendan, who was that's when she called Brendan, who was that's when she called Brendan, who was at a nearby McDonald's. He tries calling at a nearby McDonald's. He tries calling at a nearby McDonald's. He tries calling Christine, too. Same thing, got her Christine, too. Same thing, got her Christine, too. Same thing, got her voicemail. So, he came home and all voicemail. So, he came home and all voicemail. So, he came home and all three went in together. Now, Juliana three went in together. Now, Juliana three went in together. Now, Juliana said that she heard a slapping or like a said that she heard a slapping or like a said that she heard a slapping or like a spanking type noise upstairs. So, the spanking type noise upstairs. So, the spanking type noise upstairs. So, the two adults told the four-year-old to two adults told the four-year-old to two adults told the four-year-old to stay in the basement while they went up

stay in the basement while they went up stay in the basement while they went up to investigate. But by the time they got to investigate. But by the time they got to investigate. But by the time they got upstairs, what she says they walked in upstairs, what she says they walked in upstairs, what she says they walked in on was a shirtless man over a naked on was a shirtless man over a naked on was a shirtless man over a naked Christine on the floor. And before she Christine on the floor. And before she Christine on the floor. And before she even fully realized what was happening, even fully realized what was happening, even fully realized what was happening, Brendan was standing in front of her in Brendan was standing in front of her in Brendan was standing in front of her in the doorway with his gun, like his the doorway with his gun, like his the doorway with his gun, like his service weapon drawn. service weapon drawn. service weapon drawn. >> And they were yelling to each other. >> And they were yelling to each other. >> And they were yelling to each other. Didn't really understand what they were Didn't really understand what they were Didn't really understand what they were saying. It was too fast. And Brendan saying. It was too fast. And Brendan saying. It was too fast. And Brendan said, "Uh, drop the knife. Please drop said, "Uh, drop the knife. Please drop said, "Uh, drop the knife. Please drop the knife." That's what I heard. And the knife." That's what I heard. And the knife." That's what I heard. And that strange guy, he was saying, "Drop that strange guy, he was saying, "Drop that strange guy, he was saying, "Drop the gun. Drop the gun." They were the gun. Drop the gun." They were the gun. Drop the gun." They were yelling each other. And then he the the yelling each other. And then he the the yelling each other. And then he the the guy, he said like, "Drop drop the gun. guy, he said like, "Drop drop the gun. guy, he said like, "Drop drop the gun. I'm going to kill her." he had. And I'm going to kill her." he had. And I'm going to kill her." he had. And when he said that, I I was for me, I didn't I didn't believe that for me, I didn't I didn't believe that somebody was going to do that. I was somebody was going to do that. I was somebody was going to do that. I was okay.

okay. okay. And I don't know what he he did. I I And I don't know what he he did. I I And I don't know what he he did. I I can't can't can't when he started, I kind of I covered my when he started, I kind of I covered my when he started, I kind of I covered my ears. ears. ears. I co closed my eyes. I I didn't want to I co closed my eyes. I I didn't want to I co closed my eyes. I I didn't want to see or hear anything because they were see or hear anything because they were see or hear anything because they were getting serious, I guess. Like he was getting serious, I guess. Like he was getting serious, I guess. Like he was saying, "I'm going to kill her." He kept saying, "I'm going to kill her." He kept saying, "I'm going to kill her." He kept saying that. Um then he then he I I didn't want to say that, but I he I I didn't want to say that, but I he I I didn't want to say that, but I he started stabbing her with the knife. And started stabbing her with the knife. And started stabbing her with the knife. And when I saw that, I just closed my I when I saw that, I just closed my I when I saw that, I just closed my I never seen that. So I never seen that. So I never seen that. So I What's happening? Then I um What's happening? Then I um What's happening? Then I um Brendan Brendan Brendan shot him. shot him. shot him. Um Um Um and I was even more scared. She says Brendan then told her to go She says Brendan then told her to go open his safe and grab his other gun so open his safe and grab his other gun so open his safe and grab his other gun so that she could be his backup while he that she could be his backup while he that she could be his backup while he helped Christine. Now Juliana knew how helped Christine. Now Juliana knew how helped Christine. Now Juliana knew how to handle a gun because Brendan had to handle a gun because Brendan had to handle a gun because Brendan had taken her to a shooting range before. So taken her to a shooting range before. So taken her to a shooting range before. So she did what he asked.

she did what he asked. she did what he asked. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And then >> And then >> And then >> then I got the gun. >> then I got the gun. >> then I got the gun. >> Okay. And uh he was trying to help >> Okay. And uh he was trying to help >> Okay. And uh he was trying to help Christine with the Christine with the Christine with the her neck and he was she was bleeding a her neck and he was she was bleeding a her neck and he was she was bleeding a lot and uh he was reacting so he was lot and uh he was reacting so he was lot and uh he was reacting so he was going to do something with Brendan also. going to do something with Brendan also. going to do something with Brendan also. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> And then I shot him also. I did. >> And then I shot him also. I did. >> And then I shot him also. I did. >> Detectives knew there were two shots to >> Detectives knew there were two shots to >> Detectives knew there were two shots to their male victim. One in the head, one their male victim. One in the head, one their male victim. One in the head, one in the chest. And they knew there were in the chest. And they knew there were in the chest. And they knew there were two guns found on the bed. But this is two guns found on the bed. But this is two guns found on the bed. But this is the first time that they get the first time that they get the first time that they get confirmation that both Juliana and confirmation that both Juliana and confirmation that both Juliana and Brendan shot this guy basically to stop Brendan shot this guy basically to stop Brendan shot this guy basically to stop a threat, as Juliana put it. But they a threat, as Juliana put it. But they a threat, as Juliana put it. But they didn't actually stop it. Christine had didn't actually stop it. Christine had didn't actually stop it. Christine had been stabbed in the neck six times. She been stabbed in the neck six times. She been stabbed in the neck six times. She had even more cuts on her neck and had even more cuts on her neck and had even more cuts on her neck and shoulder, bruises on her arm and hands shoulder, bruises on her arm and hands shoulder, bruises on her arm and hands and legs and chin, and an abrasion on and legs and chin, and an abrasion on and legs and chin, and an abrasion on her wrist, possibly from being her wrist, possibly from being her wrist, possibly from being restrained. And it looks like the male restrained. And it looks like the male restrained. And it looks like the male victim had come with both restraints and victim had come with both restraints and victim had come with both restraints and intentions. His pants are undone and he intentions. His pants are undone and he intentions. His pants are undone and he has a backpack with him. In that has a backpack with him. In that has a backpack with him. In that backpack, police find zip ties, chains, backpack, police find zip ties, chains, backpack, police find zip ties, chains, padlocks, clothes pins, electrical tape, padlocks, clothes pins, electrical tape, padlocks, clothes pins, electrical tape, saran wrap, a gag lube, and strangely a saran wrap, a gag lube, and strangely a saran wrap, a gag lube, and strangely a single apricot. I mean, the timing single apricot. I mean, the timing single apricot. I mean, the timing alone, he had to have been like lying in alone, he had to have been like lying in alone, he had to have been like lying in wait for Juliana to leave.

wait for Juliana to leave. wait for Juliana to leave. >> You would think that, right? Because >> You would think that, right? Because >> You would think that, right? Because everything happened so quickly. Yeah, everything happened so quickly. Yeah, everything happened so quickly. Yeah, but they're actually able to identify but they're actually able to identify but they're actually able to identify this guy from his car and his cell this guy from his car and his cell this guy from his car and his cell phones as 39-year-old Joseph Ryan from phones as 39-year-old Joseph Ryan from phones as 39-year-old Joseph Ryan from nearby Springfield. And in his wallet, nearby Springfield. And in his wallet, nearby Springfield. And in his wallet, they also find a receipt from Walmart they also find a receipt from Walmart they also find a receipt from Walmart timestamp 7:13 that morning. And that timestamp 7:13 that morning. And that timestamp 7:13 that morning. And that had just three items on it. So, had just three items on it. So, had just three items on it. So, toothpaste, the same lube that was in toothpaste, the same lube that was in toothpaste, the same lube that was in his backpack, and apricots. Based on his backpack, and apricots. Based on his backpack, and apricots. Based on that drive from Walmart, the earliest that drive from Walmart, the earliest that drive from Walmart, the earliest that he could have arrived at that house that he could have arrived at that house that he could have arrived at that house is 7:25. So, he's at the store before is 7:25. So, he's at the store before is 7:25. So, he's at the store before this, not stalking the house. And if this, not stalking the house. And if this, not stalking the house. And if this was some highly planned attack, why this was some highly planned attack, why this was some highly planned attack, why does it seem so amateur? I mean, he did does it seem so amateur? I mean, he did does it seem so amateur? I mean, he did nothing to hide his identity. He parked nothing to hide his identity. He parked nothing to hide his identity. He parked his Jeep right in the driveway. His his Jeep right in the driveway. His his Jeep right in the driveway. His wallet is there in the room. wallet is there in the room. wallet is there in the room. >> And Brendan and Juliana didn't know him >> And Brendan and Juliana didn't know him >> And Brendan and Juliana didn't know him at all. at all. at all. >> Not that anyone can tell. But there are >> Not that anyone can tell. But there are >> Not that anyone can tell. But there are other reasons that this just doesn't sit other reasons that this just doesn't sit other reasons that this just doesn't sit right as a random crime. I mean, this is right as a random crime. I mean, this is right as a random crime. I mean, this is an affluent low crime neighborhood in an affluent low crime neighborhood in an affluent low crime neighborhood in general. There are no signs of forced general. There are no signs of forced general. There are no signs of forced entry to this house. And the house has a entry to this house. And the house has a entry to this house. And the house has a smart lock system that as far as they smart lock system that as far as they smart lock system that as far as they can tell, no one tampered with. So, how can tell, no one tampered with. So, how can tell, no one tampered with. So, how would this guy have gotten in unless would this guy have gotten in unless would this guy have gotten in unless someone from the house let him in?

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instructions were specific. Come over at instructions were specific. Come over at around 7:20 a.m. Park in the driveway. around 7:20 a.m. Park in the driveway. around 7:20 a.m. Park in the driveway. Leave your phones in your car. The Leave your phones in your car. The Leave your phones in your car. The door's going to be unlocked. My dog is door's going to be unlocked. My dog is door's going to be unlocked. My dog is going to be put away in the basement. He going to be put away in the basement. He going to be put away in the basement. He was to come upstairs, pin her down, was to come upstairs, pin her down, was to come upstairs, pin her down, restrain her, cut her clothes off with a restrain her, cut her clothes off with a restrain her, cut her clothes off with a knife, blindfold her, and gag her. knife, blindfold her, and gag her. knife, blindfold her, and gag her. Anastasia 9 had even asked Joe for a Anastasia 9 had even asked Joe for a Anastasia 9 had even asked Joe for a photo of everything he was bringing, photo of everything he was bringing, photo of everything he was bringing, including a knife. It's the exact one including a knife. It's the exact one including a knife. It's the exact one detectives found in the bedroom, the detectives found in the bedroom, the detectives found in the bedroom, the same one used to kill Christine. same one used to kill Christine. same one used to kill Christine. Everything police were being fed fit Everything police were being fed fit Everything police were being fed fit together neatly. This woman, married to together neatly. This woman, married to together neatly. This woman, married to a federal agent, was living a double a federal agent, was living a double a federal agent, was living a double life. She invited the wrong man into her life. She invited the wrong man into her life. She invited the wrong man into her home and into her bed, and she paid the home and into her bed, and she paid the home and into her bed, and she paid the ultimate price. Her husband was so close ultimate price. Her husband was so close ultimate price. Her husband was so close to being the hero, but he just couldn't to being the hero, but he just couldn't to being the hero, but he just couldn't save her in time. Except for every part save her in time. Except for every part save her in time. Except for every part of the story that makes sense, there are of the story that makes sense, there are of the story that makes sense, there are 10 that don't. I mean, take Joe. Like, 10 that don't. I mean, take Joe. Like, 10 that don't. I mean, take Joe. Like, what on earth is his motive here? The what on earth is his motive here? The what on earth is his motive here? The communications have made it clear that communications have made it clear that communications have made it clear that there wasn't some like ongoing affair.

there wasn't some like ongoing affair. there wasn't some like ongoing affair. As far as Joe seemed to be concerned, As far as Joe seemed to be concerned, As far as Joe seemed to be concerned, this was supposed to be just like two this was supposed to be just like two this was supposed to be just like two adults meeting up for a firsttime adults meeting up for a firsttime adults meeting up for a firsttime encounter. What the hell happened? He encounter. What the hell happened? He encounter. What the hell happened? He doesn't seem like some violent guy who doesn't seem like some violent guy who doesn't seem like some violent guy who got carried away. When they dig into his got carried away. When they dig into his got carried away. When they dig into his background, the man that they discover background, the man that they discover background, the man that they discover doesn't match the scene that they found doesn't match the scene that they found doesn't match the scene that they found him in. I mean, he had some criminal him in. I mean, he had some criminal him in. I mean, he had some criminal history, but like nothing major. And history, but like nothing major. And history, but like nothing major. And while Joe didn't have a spouse or kids, while Joe didn't have a spouse or kids, while Joe didn't have a spouse or kids, he was devoted to the family he did he was devoted to the family he did he was devoted to the family he did have. His grandparents raised him, and have. His grandparents raised him, and have. His grandparents raised him, and when they got older, he became one of when they got older, he became one of when they got older, he became one of their primary caregivers. He was at his their primary caregivers. He was at his their primary caregivers. He was at his mom's side through cancer treatment. mom's side through cancer treatment. mom's side through cancer treatment. Loved ones described someone Loved ones described someone Loved ones described someone compassionate and kind. But I mean, compassionate and kind. But I mean, compassionate and kind. But I mean, people are more than one thing, and Joe people are more than one thing, and Joe people are more than one thing, and Joe also had an interest in BDSM and rough also had an interest in BDSM and rough also had an interest in BDSM and rough sex role playing, which he tried to sex role playing, which he tried to sex role playing, which he tried to engage in responsibly. You can see it engage in responsibly. You can see it engage in responsibly. You can see it through his chat history with Anastasia through his chat history with Anastasia through his chat history with Anastasia 9. Since the plan involved gagging her, 9. Since the plan involved gagging her, 9. Since the plan involved gagging her, Joe set up a non-verbal stop signal and Joe set up a non-verbal stop signal and Joe set up a non-verbal stop signal and asked about her boundaries so he asked about her boundaries so he asked about her boundaries so he wouldn't overstep. Our reporter Nah even wouldn't overstep. Our reporter Nah even wouldn't overstep. Our reporter Nah even spoke to a former partner of his and she spoke to a former partner of his and she spoke to a former partner of his and she told us that during the me too told us that during the me too told us that during the me too reckoning, Joe contacted this person to reckoning, Joe contacted this person to reckoning, Joe contacted this person to make sure nothing about their make sure nothing about their make sure nothing about their experiences was bothering her, even in experiences was bothering her, even in experiences was bothering her, even in hindsight. And it wasn't. But hindsight. And it wasn't. But hindsight. And it wasn't. But >> I mean, he was mindful about it.

>> I mean, he was mindful about it. >> I mean, he was mindful about it. >> Exactly. Now, as far as we know, he >> Exactly. Now, as far as we know, he >> Exactly. Now, as far as we know, he didn't have any other encounters that didn't have any other encounters that didn't have any other encounters that got out of hand or instances where he got out of hand or instances where he got out of hand or instances where he just like snapped. Like, that wasn't just like snapped. Like, that wasn't just like snapped. Like, that wasn't him. And none of this was like him. And none of this was like him. And none of this was like Christine. Everyone agrees that she was Christine. Everyone agrees that she was Christine. Everyone agrees that she was a devoted nurse, mom, wife. And not like a devoted nurse, mom, wife. And not like a devoted nurse, mom, wife. And not like a mom can't have a kink, but like as far a mom can't have a kink, but like as far a mom can't have a kink, but like as far as they could tell, Christine had never as they could tell, Christine had never as they could tell, Christine had never even been unfaithful. I mean, they check even been unfaithful. I mean, they check even been unfaithful. I mean, they check years worth of her data. I mean, back to years worth of her data. I mean, back to years worth of her data. I mean, back to the mid 2000s, there is nothing. No the mid 2000s, there is nothing. No the mid 2000s, there is nothing. No flirtations, no affairs, not even like flirtations, no affairs, not even like flirtations, no affairs, not even like mainstream porn, let alone anything in mainstream porn, let alone anything in mainstream porn, let alone anything in Anastasia 9's wheelhouse. Anastasia 9's wheelhouse. Anastasia 9's wheelhouse. >> So, this would have been like a real 0 >> So, this would have been like a real 0 >> So, this would have been like a real 0 to 60 for her. to 60 for her. to 60 for her. >> And of all things, to have some sexual >> And of all things, to have some sexual >> And of all things, to have some sexual assault fantasy, it makes even less assault fantasy, it makes even less assault fantasy, it makes even less sense when you realize that she had sense when you realize that she had sense when you realize that she had spent her career doing some of the spent her career doing some of the spent her career doing some of the hardest work in medicine. She was a hardest work in medicine. She was a hardest work in medicine. She was a pediatric ICU nurse when she died, but pediatric ICU nurse when she died, but pediatric ICU nurse when she died, but before that, she was a sexual assault before that, she was a sexual assault before that, she was a sexual assault nurse examiner. Oh my god. Then nurse examiner. Oh my god. Then nurse examiner. Oh my god. Then >> that's what I'm saying. I cannot imagine >> that's what I'm saying. I cannot imagine >> that's what I'm saying. I cannot imagine a world where you work with people who a world where you work with people who a world where you work with people who have been the victim of sexual assault.

have been the victim of sexual assault. have been the victim of sexual assault. See firsthand the trauma of that, the See firsthand the trauma of that, the See firsthand the trauma of that, the brutality of that, the way that it can brutality of that, the way that it can brutality of that, the way that it can destroy people. And then we're like destroy people. And then we're like destroy people. And then we're like supposed to believe that like that's the supposed to believe that like that's the supposed to believe that like that's the fantasy she lands on. Her first time fantasy she lands on. Her first time fantasy she lands on. Her first time ever cheating on her husband and this is ever cheating on her husband and this is ever cheating on her husband and this is how like she's going to have a good time how like she's going to have a good time how like she's going to have a good time on a Friday morning at 7:20 like with on a Friday morning at 7:20 like with on a Friday morning at 7:20 like with some stranger. And like listen, don't some stranger. And like listen, don't some stranger. And like listen, don't anyone dare come for me like I'm king anyone dare come for me like I'm king anyone dare come for me like I'm king shaming. Like this was not her kink. shaming. Like this was not her kink. shaming. Like this was not her kink. >> And that is what becomes painfully >> And that is what becomes painfully >> And that is what becomes painfully obvious when police look at her life as obvious when police look at her life as obvious when police look at her life as a whole. Christine Banfield and a whole. Christine Banfield and a whole. Christine Banfield and Anastasia 9 do not feel like the same Anastasia 9 do not feel like the same Anastasia 9 do not feel like the same person. Detectives go on an allout person. Detectives go on an allout person. Detectives go on an allout digital blitz pulling terabytes of data digital blitz pulling terabytes of data digital blitz pulling terabytes of data off dozens of devices. And piece by off dozens of devices. And piece by off dozens of devices. And piece by piece, they start to rebuild the life of piece, they start to rebuild the life of piece, they start to rebuild the life of this Anastasia 9 account. They also this Anastasia 9 account. They also this Anastasia 9 account. They also build out a portrait of everyone who build out a portrait of everyone who build out a portrait of everyone who lived in the Bfield house. But before lived in the Bfield house. But before lived in the Bfield house. But before they even do, there are hints about what they even do, there are hints about what they even do, there are hints about what they're going to find. As Fairfax County they're going to find. As Fairfax County they're going to find. As Fairfax County Detective Thomas Goodell told us, there Detective Thomas Goodell told us, there Detective Thomas Goodell told us, there were red flags from the beginning. the were red flags from the beginning. the were red flags from the beginning. the rehearsed sounding law enforcement lingo rehearsed sounding law enforcement lingo rehearsed sounding law enforcement lingo that Juliana kept using when she talked that Juliana kept using when she talked that Juliana kept using when she talked about what happened. She had to stop a about what happened. She had to stop a about what happened. She had to stop a threat. Remember, he got the vibe like threat. Remember, he got the vibe like threat. Remember, he got the vibe like she had practiced that story. So, she had practiced that story. So, she had practiced that story. So, investigators started asking investigators started asking investigators started asking hyperspecific questions about body hyperspecific questions about body hyperspecific questions about body positioning. Where was the man's head, positioning. Where was the man's head, positioning. Where was the man's head, his hands, the knife? And what Juliana his hands, the knife? And what Juliana his hands, the knife? And what Juliana ultimately described is a man who was

ultimately described is a man who was ultimately described is a man who was defenseless by the time she shot him. I defenseless by the time she shot him. I defenseless by the time she shot him. I mean, the way she tells it to them, he mean, the way she tells it to them, he mean, the way she tells it to them, he was partially like on his back moaning. was partially like on his back moaning. was partially like on his back moaning. The knife wasn't even near him. It was The knife wasn't even near him. It was The knife wasn't even near him. It was on the floor away from him. That means on the floor away from him. That means on the floor away from him. That means that the shot she fired could be that the shot she fired could be that the shot she fired could be considered murder. They could have considered murder. They could have considered murder. They could have charged her right then and there, but charged her right then and there, but charged her right then and there, but they didn't. Instead, they begin they didn't. Instead, they begin they didn't. Instead, they begin collecting their mountain of evidence collecting their mountain of evidence collecting their mountain of evidence while at the same time keeping an eye on while at the same time keeping an eye on while at the same time keeping an eye on Brendan and Juliana who are staying in a Brendan and Juliana who are staying in a Brendan and Juliana who are staying in a hotel since the house was a crime scene. hotel since the house was a crime scene. hotel since the house was a crime scene. And interestingly, that very first night And interestingly, that very first night And interestingly, that very first night when they go to the hotel, there is this when they go to the hotel, there is this when they go to the hotel, there is this undercover officer in the lobby who undercover officer in the lobby who undercover officer in the lobby who overheard something that stopped him overheard something that stopped him overheard something that stopped him cold. Brendan's daughter asked Juliana cold. Brendan's daughter asked Juliana cold. Brendan's daughter asked Juliana two questions. two questions. two questions. Can she call her mommy now? And is Can she call her mommy now? And is Can she call her mommy now? And is Juliana going to marry her daddy? The Juliana going to marry her daddy? The Juliana going to marry her daddy? The first answer is yes, she can call her first answer is yes, she can call her first answer is yes, she can call her mommy. As for marrying her daddy, mommy. As for marrying her daddy, mommy. As for marrying her daddy, Juliana says, "I wish." Now, in her Juliana says, "I wish." Now, in her Juliana says, "I wish." Now, in her interview with police, Juliana had interview with police, Juliana had interview with police, Juliana had described her relationship with Brendan described her relationship with Brendan described her relationship with Brendan as strictly professional. But like, as strictly professional. But like, as strictly professional. But like, doubt it. Because on Juliana's phone, doubt it. Because on Juliana's phone, doubt it. Because on Juliana's phone, detectives find a trove of photos detectives find a trove of photos detectives find a trove of photos documenting her relationship with documenting her relationship with documenting her relationship with Brendan. In some she slapped an emoji Brendan. In some she slapped an emoji Brendan. In some she slapped an emoji sticker on his face, but it's like sticker on his face, but it's like sticker on his face, but it's like undeniably him. Friends, she'd sent them

undeniably him. Friends, she'd sent them undeniably him. Friends, she'd sent them to confirm. Juliana and Brendan had been to confirm. Juliana and Brendan had been to confirm. Juliana and Brendan had been involved since summer 2022. Was involved since summer 2022. Was involved since summer 2022. Was Christine suspicious at all that Christine suspicious at all that Christine suspicious at all that something like this was going on? something like this was going on? something like this was going on? >> Unlikely. Like, she and Brendan had been >> Unlikely. Like, she and Brendan had been >> Unlikely. Like, she and Brendan had been together since college. They'd been together since college. They'd been together since college. They'd been married nearly like 13 years. He had married nearly like 13 years. He had married nearly like 13 years. He had actually cheated on her before, like actually cheated on her before, like actually cheated on her before, like this long-term affair that she had this long-term affair that she had this long-term affair that she had learned about that sent them to learned about that sent them to learned about that sent them to counseling, but they stayed together and counseling, but they stayed together and counseling, but they stayed together and on paper they'd worked through it. on paper they'd worked through it. on paper they'd worked through it. However, police learned that Brendan had However, police learned that Brendan had However, police learned that Brendan had other affairs that Christine likely other affairs that Christine likely other affairs that Christine likely never knew about. And that probably never knew about. And that probably never knew about. And that probably includes Juliana because Christine includes Juliana because Christine includes Juliana because Christine recently encouraged her to extend her recently encouraged her to extend her recently encouraged her to extend her Opair contract. A friend of Christine's Opair contract. A friend of Christine's Opair contract. A friend of Christine's told us that she actually thought told us that she actually thought told us that she actually thought Brendan and Juliana's dynamic was cute. Brendan and Juliana's dynamic was cute. Brendan and Juliana's dynamic was cute. Like she thought they had a big brother Like she thought they had a big brother Like she thought they had a big brother little sister thing, but like obviously little sister thing, but like obviously little sister thing, but like obviously that's not true unless this is Game of that's not true unless this is Game of that's not true unless this is Game of Thrones. And it seems like she was Thrones. And it seems like she was Thrones. And it seems like she was completely in the dark about what was completely in the dark about what was completely in the dark about what was happening right under her nose in her happening right under her nose in her happening right under her nose in her own home. And that home is where own home. And that home is where own home. And that home is where investigators began to trace the investigators began to trace the investigators began to trace the creation of the Anastasia 9 Fetife creation of the Anastasia 9 Fetife creation of the Anastasia 9 Fetife account. It started with a brand new account. It started with a brand new account. It started with a brand new Gmail account being created in early Gmail account being created in early Gmail account being created in early January. Then on January 17th, that January. Then on January 17th, that January. Then on January 17th, that email registered the Anastasia 9 Fetlife email registered the Anastasia 9 Fetlife email registered the Anastasia 9 Fetlife profile. That same day, Christine took profile. That same day, Christine took profile. That same day, Christine took that bathing suit selfie and sent it to that bathing suit selfie and sent it to that bathing suit selfie and sent it to her husband. And within a few days, the her husband. And within a few days, the her husband. And within a few days, the Anastasia 9 account was chatting with Anastasia 9 account was chatting with Anastasia 9 account was chatting with multiple other Fet Life accounts, multiple other Fet Life accounts, multiple other Fet Life accounts, telling them she had a sexual assault telling them she had a sexual assault telling them she had a sexual assault fantasy. But over and over there was a

fantasy. But over and over there was a fantasy. But over and over there was a blocker. Every guy wanted to meet in blocker. Every guy wanted to meet in blocker. Every guy wanted to meet in person first. Like it's too dangerous person first. Like it's too dangerous person first. Like it's too dangerous not to, right? Like it could be anyone not to, right? Like it could be anyone not to, right? Like it could be anyone behind that keyboard, behind that keyboard, behind that keyboard, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> But there was one person who agreed to >> But there was one person who agreed to >> But there was one person who agreed to forego the face toface meeting and that forego the face toface meeting and that forego the face toface meeting and that was Joe. Now, this had to have seemed was Joe. Now, this had to have seemed was Joe. Now, this had to have seemed risky to him because he kind of tried to risky to him because he kind of tried to risky to him because he kind of tried to arrange an in-person meeting first, but arrange an in-person meeting first, but arrange an in-person meeting first, but in the end, he settled for a long late in the end, he settled for a long late in the end, he settled for a long late night call through an app 3 days before night call through an app 3 days before night call through an app 3 days before the murders. Maybe that call put him at the murders. Maybe that call put him at the murders. Maybe that call put him at ease, but there's no recording, so we ease, but there's no recording, so we ease, but there's no recording, so we may never know. What we do know is that may never know. What we do know is that may never know. What we do know is that Joe and Anastasia 9 were still working Joe and Anastasia 9 were still working Joe and Anastasia 9 were still working out the details. Thursday night, out the details. Thursday night, out the details. Thursday night, February 23rd. Early the next morning, February 23rd. Early the next morning, February 23rd. Early the next morning, Friday, at 5:47 a.m., Christine's phone Friday, at 5:47 a.m., Christine's phone Friday, at 5:47 a.m., Christine's phone was used to disable the front door lock. was used to disable the front door lock. was used to disable the front door lock. About an hour later, her phone gets shut About an hour later, her phone gets shut About an hour later, her phone gets shut off. But the conversation with Joe kept off. But the conversation with Joe kept off. But the conversation with Joe kept going from Christine's laptop. He said going from Christine's laptop. He said going from Christine's laptop. He said that he was running behind. At 6:48, that he was running behind. At 6:48, that he was running behind. At 6:48, Anastasia 9 sent a final reply. Okay, Anastasia 9 sent a final reply. Okay, Anastasia 9 sent a final reply. Okay, I'll be waiting for you. And what's wild I'll be waiting for you. And what's wild I'll be waiting for you. And what's wild is over the course of weeks, at the same is over the course of weeks, at the same is over the course of weeks, at the same time that the Fetife account stuff was time that the Fetife account stuff was time that the Fetife account stuff was being accessed or used from her laptop, being accessed or used from her laptop, being accessed or used from her laptop, her phone was doing like completely her phone was doing like completely her phone was doing like completely ordinary things, shopping for scrubs, ordinary things, shopping for scrubs, ordinary things, shopping for scrubs, researching vacations, looking up TV researching vacations, looking up TV researching vacations, looking up TV shows.

shows. shows. >> I mean, that doesn't sound like two >> I mean, that doesn't sound like two >> I mean, that doesn't sound like two sides of the same person. And that sides of the same person. And that sides of the same person. And that sounds like two completely different sounds like two completely different sounds like two completely different people. Especially when police find out people. Especially when police find out people. Especially when police find out Brendan and Juliana took trips together. Brendan and Juliana took trips together. Brendan and Juliana took trips together. And each time that they were gone, the And each time that they were gone, the And each time that they were gone, the Fetife account would go dark. Fetife account would go dark. Fetife account would go dark. >> Even though Christine was home with her >> Even though Christine was home with her >> Even though Christine was home with her devices. devices. devices. >> You would think that this would be like >> You would think that this would be like >> You would think that this would be like the perfect time for her to be accessing the perfect time for her to be accessing the perfect time for her to be accessing that account. that account. that account. >> If you have a liaison with a stranger, >> If you have a liaison with a stranger, >> If you have a liaison with a stranger, do it while your husband is away rather do it while your husband is away rather do it while your husband is away rather than while he is just like grabbing than while he is just like grabbing than while he is just like grabbing breakfast at McDonald's. breakfast at McDonald's. breakfast at McDonald's. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. On top of that, not long before the On top of that, not long before the On top of that, not long before the killings, Brendan and Juliana both got killings, Brendan and Juliana both got killings, Brendan and Juliana both got new phones and iCloud accounts set to new phones and iCloud accounts set to new phones and iCloud accounts set to sync almost nothing. Like, their old sync almost nothing. Like, their old sync almost nothing. Like, their old cloud accounts were wiped clean. So, cloud accounts were wiped clean. So, cloud accounts were wiped clean. So, investigators quickly land on a theory. investigators quickly land on a theory. investigators quickly land on a theory. Brendan and Juliana did not interrupt a Brendan and Juliana did not interrupt a Brendan and Juliana did not interrupt a home invasion. They orchestrated one home invasion. They orchestrated one home invasion. They orchestrated one >> using a fake online persona to lure Joe >> using a fake online persona to lure Joe >> using a fake online persona to lure Joe to the house. Then they killed him and to the house. Then they killed him and to the house. Then they killed him and Christine and staged it so that Joe Christine and staged it so that Joe Christine and staged it so that Joe would take the fall, would take the fall, would take the fall, >> which is diabolical.

>> which is diabolical. >> which is diabolical. >> Well, it is also so convoluted that when >> Well, it is also so convoluted that when >> Well, it is also so convoluted that when police lay it out for prosecutors, the police lay it out for prosecutors, the police lay it out for prosecutors, the reaction is basically like, "No way." I reaction is basically like, "No way." I reaction is basically like, "No way." I mean, don't get me wrong, they were mean, don't get me wrong, they were mean, don't get me wrong, they were suspicious. But when we spoke with the suspicious. But when we spoke with the suspicious. But when we spoke with the Commonwealth's chief deputy, Jenna Sans, Commonwealth's chief deputy, Jenna Sans, Commonwealth's chief deputy, Jenna Sans, she told us that at the time it seemed she told us that at the time it seemed she told us that at the time it seemed more likely to them that Christine and more likely to them that Christine and more likely to them that Christine and Joe were having an affair and Brendan Joe were having an affair and Brendan Joe were having an affair and Brendan and Juliana walked in on them and killed and Juliana walked in on them and killed and Juliana walked in on them and killed them. I mean, how that was the AAMS them. I mean, how that was the AAMS them. I mean, how that was the AAMS razor version, I think. Like the whole razor version, I think. Like the whole razor version, I think. Like the whole catfishing thing is just so over catfishing thing is just so over catfishing thing is just so over complicated and digital evidence has complicated and digital evidence has complicated and digital evidence has limits. Christine was always in the limits. Christine was always in the limits. Christine was always in the house with Brendan and Juliana or both house with Brendan and Juliana or both house with Brendan and Juliana or both like when the account was active. So, like when the account was active. So, like when the account was active. So, they can't prove who was using any given they can't prove who was using any given they can't prove who was using any given device. They needed more. But when device. They needed more. But when device. They needed more. But when you're talking this much forensic you're talking this much forensic you're talking this much forensic evidence, more takes time. And since evidence, more takes time. And since evidence, more takes time. And since prosecutors don't think that there was prosecutors don't think that there was prosecutors don't think that there was like a public threat, the priority was like a public threat, the priority was like a public threat, the priority was getting it done right, not fast. But getting it done right, not fast. But getting it done right, not fast. But Fairfax Police Chief Kevin Davis told us Fairfax Police Chief Kevin Davis told us Fairfax Police Chief Kevin Davis told us that the department was keeping close that the department was keeping close that the department was keeping close tabs on the Banfield family the entire tabs on the Banfield family the entire tabs on the Banfield family the entire time. So they got to watch as Brendan, time. So they got to watch as Brendan, time. So they got to watch as Brendan, his daughter, and Juliana move right his daughter, and Juliana move right his daughter, and Juliana move right back into the house where Christine and back into the house where Christine and back into the house where Christine and Joe were killed along with Brendan's Joe were killed along with Brendan's Joe were killed along with Brendan's mother who becomes kind of like his mother who becomes kind of like his mother who becomes kind of like his mouthpiece while he stays quiet. The mouthpiece while he stays quiet. The mouthpiece while he stays quiet. The problem though is after a few months problem though is after a few months problem though is after a few months they start to worry that Juliana and

they start to worry that Juliana and they start to worry that Juliana and Brendan are a flight risk. They see that Brendan are a flight risk. They see that Brendan are a flight risk. They see that Juliana has applied for a new Brazilian Juliana has applied for a new Brazilian Juliana has applied for a new Brazilian passport to replace the one that they passport to replace the one that they passport to replace the one that they confiscated. And Brendan started confiscated. And Brendan started confiscated. And Brendan started learning Portuguese, but Juliana is, I learning Portuguese, but Juliana is, I learning Portuguese, but Juliana is, I think, the bigger concern because Brazil think, the bigger concern because Brazil think, the bigger concern because Brazil generally won't extradite its own generally won't extradite its own generally won't extradite its own citizens. If she makes it home, they citizens. If she makes it home, they citizens. If she makes it home, they might never get her back. So, they might never get her back. So, they might never get her back. So, they decide to roll the dice. And in October decide to roll the dice. And in October decide to roll the dice. And in October 2023, they decide to charge Juliana with 2023, they decide to charge Juliana with 2023, they decide to charge Juliana with Joe's murder. Joe's murder. Joe's murder. >> Why just Joe? >> Why just Joe? >> Why just Joe? >> Well, cuz that's what they can prove. >> Well, cuz that's what they can prove. >> Well, cuz that's what they can prove. Like in her initial police interview, Like in her initial police interview, Like in her initial police interview, she admitted that he was incapacitated she admitted that he was incapacitated she admitted that he was incapacitated when she shot him that second time. And when she shot him that second time. And when she shot him that second time. And according to the medical examiner, that according to the medical examiner, that according to the medical examiner, that second shot is the one that killed him. second shot is the one that killed him. second shot is the one that killed him. Although, I mean, the first shot that Although, I mean, the first shot that Although, I mean, the first shot that Brendan fired at a downward angle, by Brendan fired at a downward angle, by Brendan fired at a downward angle, by the way, could have been fatal as well. the way, could have been fatal as well. the way, could have been fatal as well. Now, don't get me wrong, they think that Now, don't get me wrong, they think that Now, don't get me wrong, they think that there's way more to this story, there's way more to this story, there's way more to this story, >> but this is like the surefire solid. >> but this is like the surefire solid. >> but this is like the surefire solid. >> This is what they have. This is what >> This is what they have. This is what >> This is what they have. This is what they know they can use to hold her. they know they can use to hold her. they know they can use to hold her. They're in for another shock, though. They're in for another shock, though. They're in for another shock, though. Would they make the arrest and go back Would they make the arrest and go back Would they make the arrest and go back into the Banfield's house with a search into the Banfield's house with a search into the Banfield's house with a search warrant? Christine has essentially been warrant? Christine has essentially been warrant? Christine has essentially been erased. Her photos are gone from the erased. Her photos are gone from the erased. Her photos are gone from the bedroom, replaced by pictures of Brendan bedroom, replaced by pictures of Brendan bedroom, replaced by pictures of Brendan and Juliana together. Her clothes are and Juliana together. Her clothes are and Juliana together. Her clothes are gone from the closet. And Julian's are gone from the closet. And Julian's are gone from the closet. And Julian's are hanging in their place.

hanging in their place. hanging in their place. >> Are they sleeping in the room where >> Are they sleeping in the room where >> Are they sleeping in the room where Christine and Joe died? Like a bedroom. Christine and Joe died? Like a bedroom. Christine and Joe died? Like a bedroom. >> Christine who is the vibe. Yes, they >> Christine who is the vibe. Yes, they >> Christine who is the vibe. Yes, they are. are. are. >> Oh my god. and her arrest only makes it >> Oh my god. and her arrest only makes it >> Oh my god. and her arrest only makes it clearer how deep she is in with Brendan. clearer how deep she is in with Brendan. clearer how deep she is in with Brendan. Once she is sitting in jail, they are Once she is sitting in jail, they are Once she is sitting in jail, they are monitoring all her communication. Yeah, monitoring all her communication. Yeah, monitoring all her communication. Yeah, obviously letters, emails she's obviously letters, emails she's obviously letters, emails she's exchanging with Brendan, exchanging with exchanging with Brendan, exchanging with exchanging with Brendan, exchanging with his mom, her loved ones in Brazil. She his mom, her loved ones in Brazil. She his mom, her loved ones in Brazil. She and Brendan are planning for the future and Brendan are planning for the future and Brendan are planning for the future at this point, planning a family of at this point, planning a family of at this point, planning a family of their own. All while Brendan's mother is their own. All while Brendan's mother is their own. All while Brendan's mother is funding Juliana's legal defense. It's funding Juliana's legal defense. It's funding Juliana's legal defense. It's like, I love my kids, but how is his like, I love my kids, but how is his like, I love my kids, but how is his mother supporting this? It I don't know. mother supporting this? It I don't know. mother supporting this? It I don't know. It seems so toxic. And listen, I kept It seems so toxic. And listen, I kept It seems so toxic. And listen, I kept looking for the thing that like, oh, looking for the thing that like, oh, looking for the thing that like, oh, like, did Christine's friends hate this like, did Christine's friends hate this like, did Christine's friends hate this guy? Like, was Brendan abusive? Like, guy? Like, was Brendan abusive? Like, guy? Like, was Brendan abusive? Like, there had to have been signs, right? In there had to have been signs, right? In there had to have been signs, right? In this case, not really. I mean, he was this case, not really. I mean, he was this case, not really. I mean, he was actively cheating. We know that. But actively cheating. We know that. But actively cheating. We know that. But like, I think he hid it well. No one in like, I think he hid it well. No one in like, I think he hid it well. No one in Christine's life so far has been like, Christine's life so far has been like, Christine's life so far has been like, "Oh, I always had a bad feeling about "Oh, I always had a bad feeling about "Oh, I always had a bad feeling about that guy." If anything, Brendan barely that guy." If anything, Brendan barely that guy." If anything, Brendan barely registers for most people. His registers for most people. His registers for most people. His co-workers don't seem to like him much, co-workers don't seem to like him much, co-workers don't seem to like him much, but not because he's threatening. He's but not because he's threatening. He's but not because he's threatening. He's just sort of like there, easy to forget.

just sort of like there, easy to forget. just sort of like there, easy to forget. I mean, Fairfax Commonwealth attorney I mean, Fairfax Commonwealth attorney I mean, Fairfax Commonwealth attorney Steve Dano referred to him as a walking Steve Dano referred to him as a walking Steve Dano referred to him as a walking saltine. saltine. saltine. But he's mommy's saltine, and I imagine But he's mommy's saltine, and I imagine But he's mommy's saltine, and I imagine she will do anything to protect him. So, she will do anything to protect him. So, she will do anything to protect him. So, as prosecutors gear up, investigators go as prosecutors gear up, investigators go as prosecutors gear up, investigators go back to the beginning. Problem is, they back to the beginning. Problem is, they back to the beginning. Problem is, they know the crime scene was compromised know the crime scene was compromised know the crime scene was compromised almost immediately. I mean, first almost immediately. I mean, first almost immediately. I mean, first responders were trying to save responders were trying to save responders were trying to save Christine, checking Joe's vitals, coming Christine, checking Joe's vitals, coming Christine, checking Joe's vitals, coming and going. The knife was stepped on and and going. The knife was stepped on and and going. The knife was stepped on and kicked. It was chaos. But luckily, they kicked. It was chaos. But luckily, they kicked. It was chaos. But luckily, they have body cam footage, which they go have body cam footage, which they go have body cam footage, which they go through frame by frame. And the more through frame by frame. And the more through frame by frame. And the more they look at Joe, the harder it is to they look at Joe, the harder it is to they look at Joe, the harder it is to believe he did what Brendan and Juliana believe he did what Brendan and Juliana believe he did what Brendan and Juliana say he did. I mean, one of his legs was say he did. I mean, one of his legs was say he did. I mean, one of his legs was wedged so far under the bed frame that wedged so far under the bed frame that wedged so far under the bed frame that responders struggled to pull it out. His responders struggled to pull it out. His responders struggled to pull it out. His hands were like folded neatly across his hands were like folded neatly across his hands were like folded neatly across his chest, like what detectives call a chest, like what detectives call a chest, like what detectives call a funeral pose. And when an officer lifted funeral pose. And when an officer lifted funeral pose. And when an officer lifted Joe's top hand to check for a pulse, a Joe's top hand to check for a pulse, a Joe's top hand to check for a pulse, a swath of his skin underneath and in swath of his skin underneath and in swath of his skin underneath and in between his fingers were clean, like between his fingers were clean, like between his fingers were clean, like there was no blood. And that only makes there was no blood. And that only makes there was no blood. And that only makes sense if Joe's hands were already folded sense if Joe's hands were already folded sense if Joe's hands were already folded when blood landed on them, not like he when blood landed on them, not like he when blood landed on them, not like he was in the middle of a frenzied knife was in the middle of a frenzied knife was in the middle of a frenzied knife attack.

attack. attack. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And blood patterns tell a story. >> And blood patterns tell a story. >> And blood patterns tell a story. >> Joe had small round drops on his chest >> Joe had small round drops on his chest >> Joe had small round drops on his chest and arms that look like they fell and arms that look like they fell and arms that look like they fell straight down when he was lying still. straight down when he was lying still. straight down when he was lying still. But Brendan's clothes tell a different But Brendan's clothes tell a different But Brendan's clothes tell a different tale. I mean, those stains are longer tale. I mean, those stains are longer tale. I mean, those stains are longer and messier. The way blood lands on and messier. The way blood lands on and messier. The way blood lands on someone who's moving while blood is someone who's moving while blood is someone who's moving while blood is flying through the air. Bottom line, the flying through the air. Bottom line, the flying through the air. Bottom line, the blood on Joe doesn't point to him as the blood on Joe doesn't point to him as the blood on Joe doesn't point to him as the stabber. stabber. stabber. >> The blood on Brendan does. And when >> The blood on Brendan does. And when >> The blood on Brendan does. And when testing confirms that, prosecutors testing confirms that, prosecutors testing confirms that, prosecutors finally have what they need. So, in finally have what they need. So, in finally have what they need. So, in September 2024, almost a year after September 2024, almost a year after September 2024, almost a year after Juliana's arrest, they finally charged Juliana's arrest, they finally charged Juliana's arrest, they finally charged Brendan with Christine and Joe's Brendan with Christine and Joe's Brendan with Christine and Joe's murders. And ultimately with felony murders. And ultimately with felony murders. And ultimately with felony child abuse and cruelty since his child abuse and cruelty since his child abuse and cruelty since his daughter was home when it happened. Now daughter was home when it happened. Now daughter was home when it happened. Now this whole time Juliana's been away, she this whole time Juliana's been away, she this whole time Juliana's been away, she has not flipped on him. I think she was has not flipped on him. I think she was has not flipped on him. I think she was probably telling herself that cops probably telling herself that cops probably telling herself that cops didn't know the full story, right? Like didn't know the full story, right? Like didn't know the full story, right? Like otherwise they would have arrested him.

otherwise they would have arrested him. otherwise they would have arrested him. But now that he's in a cell, too, it's But now that he's in a cell, too, it's But now that he's in a cell, too, it's all crashing down. Plus, he stops all crashing down. Plus, he stops all crashing down. Plus, he stops communicating with her after he's communicating with her after he's communicating with her after he's arrested. And she'd also been reading arrested. And she'd also been reading arrested. And she'd also been reading discovery files for her upcoming trial, discovery files for her upcoming trial, discovery files for her upcoming trial, which detail all of the affairs that which detail all of the affairs that which detail all of the affairs that Brendan had while he was with Christine. Brendan had while he was with Christine. Brendan had while he was with Christine. At least all the affairs that they knew At least all the affairs that they knew At least all the affairs that they knew about. And she had likely known that he about. And she had likely known that he about. And she had likely known that he cheated before her, but I doubt she knew cheated before her, but I doubt she knew cheated before her, but I doubt she knew how much. And now she is probably no how much. And now she is probably no how much. And now she is probably no longer feeling special. She's feeling longer feeling special. She's feeling longer feeling special. She's feeling used. So Juliana agrees to plead guilty used. So Juliana agrees to plead guilty used. So Juliana agrees to plead guilty to involuntary manslaughter and testify to involuntary manslaughter and testify to involuntary manslaughter and testify against Brendan. In exchange, against Brendan. In exchange, against Brendan. In exchange, prosecutors will recommend time served. prosecutors will recommend time served. prosecutors will recommend time served. >> Time served, like the time that she's >> Time served, like the time that she's >> Time served, like the time that she's been in since they first arrested her. been in since they first arrested her. been in since they first arrested her. That's what, like a a year? That's what, like a a year? That's what, like a a year? >> Well, I mean, by the time they actually >> Well, I mean, by the time they actually >> Well, I mean, by the time they actually get to Brendan's trial, it's going to be get to Brendan's trial, it's going to be get to Brendan's trial, it's going to be a little bit more than that. But they a little bit more than that. But they a little bit more than that. But they need her. They need her to help lock need her. They need her to help lock need her. They need her to help lock down the case against Brendan. That's down the case against Brendan. That's down the case against Brendan. That's what her testimony will do.

what her testimony will do. what her testimony will do. So that October, she gives them a full So that October, she gives them a full So that October, she gives them a full account of what she says happened. >> 911 emergency Bryant. >> 911 emergency Bryant. >> For 40 minutes, a man held six women >> For 40 minutes, a man held six women >> For 40 minutes, a man held six women captive inside Elaine Bryant store in captive inside Elaine Bryant store in captive inside Elaine Bryant store in Tinley Park, Illinois. Five were Tinley Park, Illinois. Five were Tinley Park, Illinois. Five were executed and the killer escaped. executed and the killer escaped. executed and the killer escaped. >> The search continues for the gunman. >> The search continues for the gunman. >> The search continues for the gunman. >> Authorities have his face, voice, and >> Authorities have his face, voice, and >> Authorities have his face, voice, and possible DNA. But 18 years later, this possible DNA. But 18 years later, this possible DNA. But 18 years later, this case is still unsolved. case is still unsolved. case is still unsolved. >> There was no doubt in my mind that we >> There was no doubt in my mind that we >> There was no doubt in my mind that we were going to get this guy and I was were going to get this guy and I was were going to get this guy and I was wrong. wrong. wrong. >> I'm Dillia Deira and this is >> I'm Dillia Deira and this is >> I'm Dillia Deira and this is Counterclock season 8. Listen now Counterclock season 8. Listen now Counterclock season 8. Listen now wherever you get your podcasts. According to Juliana, the murders of According to Juliana, the murders of Christine Banfield and Joe Ryan weren't Christine Banfield and Joe Ryan weren't Christine Banfield and Joe Ryan weren't impulsive. Planning started in October impulsive. Planning started in October impulsive. Planning started in October 2022 when she traveled with Brendan and 2022 when she traveled with Brendan and 2022 when she traveled with Brendan and his daughter to New York to visit his his daughter to New York to visit his his daughter to New York to visit his family. I think Christine had to stay family. I think Christine had to stay family. I think Christine had to stay back and work. They had been involved back and work. They had been involved back and work. They had been involved for a few months by then. And Brendan for a few months by then. And Brendan for a few months by then. And Brendan mentioned wanting to get rid of his mentioned wanting to get rid of his mentioned wanting to get rid of his wife. He told Juliana that Christine was wife. He told Juliana that Christine was wife. He told Juliana that Christine was a bad mom who didn't care about his a bad mom who didn't care about his a bad mom who didn't care about his needs. But a divorce would mean custody needs. But a divorce would mean custody needs. But a divorce would mean custody battles, child support. In his mind, battles, child support. In his mind, battles, child support. In his mind, killing her would just be easier. He killing her would just be easier. He killing her would just be easier. He didn't want to hire a professional. He didn't want to hire a professional. He didn't want to hire a professional. He was worried about the money trail. So was worried about the money trail. So was worried about the money trail. So instead, he came up with something far instead, he came up with something far instead, he came up with something far more elaborate. Create a fake profile on more elaborate. Create a fake profile on more elaborate. Create a fake profile on a fetish site, pose as Christine, and

a fetish site, pose as Christine, and a fetish site, pose as Christine, and lure a man to the house under the lure a man to the house under the lure a man to the house under the pretense of a violent sexual fantasy. pretense of a violent sexual fantasy. pretense of a violent sexual fantasy. They would frame that man for They would frame that man for They would frame that man for Christine's murder. And Brendan would Christine's murder. And Brendan would Christine's murder. And Brendan would get to play this heroic husband who get to play this heroic husband who get to play this heroic husband who tried to save her. How did he even think tried to save her. How did he even think tried to save her. How did he even think of something like that? Well, Juliana of something like that? Well, Juliana of something like that? Well, Juliana says she doesn't know where he came up says she doesn't know where he came up says she doesn't know where he came up with the idea, but Chief Deputy Sans with the idea, but Chief Deputy Sans with the idea, but Chief Deputy Sans later learned that it mirrors the plot later learned that it mirrors the plot later learned that it mirrors the plot of a TV show, The Closer, season 1, of a TV show, The Closer, season 1, of a TV show, The Closer, season 1, episode 6, for anyone interested. And I episode 6, for anyone interested. And I episode 6, for anyone interested. And I don't know if Brendan ever saw it, but I don't know if Brendan ever saw it, but I don't know if Brendan ever saw it, but I watched it. And the similarities are watched it. And the similarities are watched it. And the similarities are hard to ignore. And as Juliana lays it hard to ignore. And as Juliana lays it hard to ignore. And as Juliana lays it all out, details that never made sense all out, details that never made sense all out, details that never made sense before finally start to like click into before finally start to like click into before finally start to like click into place. Even the things that once meant place. Even the things that once meant place. Even the things that once meant nothing take on new meaning. Like months nothing take on new meaning. Like months nothing take on new meaning. Like months before the murders, the Banfields got before the murders, the Banfields got before the murders, the Banfields got new windows installed. Police figured new windows installed. Police figured new windows installed. Police figured that, you know, that's just like a that, you know, that's just like a that, you know, that's just like a routine house renovation thing, routine house renovation thing, routine house renovation thing, whatever. But Juliana says that Brendan whatever. But Juliana says that Brendan whatever. But Juliana says that Brendan upgraded to triple pane near soundproof upgraded to triple pane near soundproof upgraded to triple pane near soundproof windows, then tested them by standing in windows, then tested them by standing in windows, then tested them by standing in the bedroom and screaming while she the bedroom and screaming while she the bedroom and screaming while she listened outside. Brendan was so listened outside. Brendan was so listened outside. Brendan was so meticulous about the digital trail. I meticulous about the digital trail. I meticulous about the digital trail. I mean, they only used Christine's devices mean, they only used Christine's devices mean, they only used Christine's devices when she was home so that everything when she was home so that everything when she was home so that everything would be traced back to her location.

would be traced back to her location. would be traced back to her location. Juliana says she was the one who did the Juliana says she was the one who did the Juliana says she was the one who did the long call with Joe to get him long call with Joe to get him long call with Joe to get him comfortable before the meetup. And he comfortable before the meetup. And he comfortable before the meetup. And he commented about her having an accent commented about her having an accent commented about her having an accent because like I mean the picture he saw because like I mean the picture he saw because like I mean the picture he saw was of a white American woman, but it was of a white American woman, but it was of a white American woman, but it obviously didn't scare him off because a obviously didn't scare him off because a obviously didn't scare him off because a few days later he showed up. That few days later he showed up. That few days later he showed up. That morning, Christine was sleeping in with morning, Christine was sleeping in with morning, Christine was sleeping in with her daughter since she had the day off. her daughter since she had the day off. her daughter since she had the day off. Brendan brought the little girl Brendan brought the little girl Brendan brought the little girl downstairs, handed Juliana his second downstairs, handed Juliana his second downstairs, handed Juliana his second gun, which she slipped into her hoodie gun, which she slipped into her hoodie gun, which she slipped into her hoodie pocket. They disabled the front door pocket. They disabled the front door pocket. They disabled the front door lock with Christine's phone, powered the lock with Christine's phone, powered the lock with Christine's phone, powered the phone off, and stashed it in that bar phone off, and stashed it in that bar phone off, and stashed it in that bar cart drawer. Then Brendan drove to cart drawer. Then Brendan drove to cart drawer. Then Brendan drove to McDonald's while Juliana settled his McDonald's while Juliana settled his McDonald's while Juliana settled his daughter in the car, parked by the daughter in the car, parked by the daughter in the car, parked by the house. She waited. She watched Joe pull house. She waited. She watched Joe pull house. She waited. She watched Joe pull in. That's when she called Christine's in. That's when she called Christine's in. That's when she called Christine's dead phone to create a record of her dead phone to create a record of her dead phone to create a record of her trying to warn her. And then she calls trying to warn her. And then she calls trying to warn her. And then she calls Brendan and tells him to come home. And Brendan and tells him to come home. And Brendan and tells him to come home. And according to Washington Post reporter according to Washington Post reporter according to Washington Post reporter Tom Jackman, this whole time they put on Tom Jackman, this whole time they put on Tom Jackman, this whole time they put on a show for Brendan's daughter so that a show for Brendan's daughter so that a show for Brendan's daughter so that she would repeat it to police later.

she would repeat it to police later. she would repeat it to police later. Like, "Oh no, we forgot the lunches. Like, "Oh no, we forgot the lunches. Like, "Oh no, we forgot the lunches. Look at that strange man going inside." Look at that strange man going inside." Look at that strange man going inside." When Brendan got back, they went in When Brendan got back, they went in When Brendan got back, they went in through the basement, left his daughter through the basement, left his daughter through the basement, left his daughter downstairs, and headed up. And in the downstairs, and headed up. And in the downstairs, and headed up. And in the bedroom, Christine was on the floor with bedroom, Christine was on the floor with bedroom, Christine was on the floor with Joe behind her, and she yelled something Joe behind her, and she yelled something Joe behind her, and she yelled something like, "Brendan, he has a knife." And like, "Brendan, he has a knife." And like, "Brendan, he has a knife." And like, when you think about what this like, when you think about what this like, when you think about what this must have been like for Christine, she must have been like for Christine, she must have been like for Christine, she woke up to a stranger with a knife woke up to a stranger with a knife woke up to a stranger with a knife trying to sexually assault her. A man trying to sexually assault her. A man trying to sexually assault her. A man who believed that her fear was fake, who believed that her fear was fake, who believed that her fear was fake, just like part of the fun. Joe is inside just like part of the fun. Joe is inside just like part of the fun. Joe is inside for at least 5 minutes, probably more for at least 5 minutes, probably more for at least 5 minutes, probably more before Brendan and Juliana came in. So, before Brendan and Juliana came in. So, before Brendan and Juliana came in. So, she is fighting hard, which explains the she is fighting hard, which explains the she is fighting hard, which explains the sheets being ripped off the bed and her sheets being ripped off the bed and her sheets being ripped off the bed and her bruises. But importantly, this is the bruises. But importantly, this is the bruises. But importantly, this is the thing to focus on. She has not been thing to focus on. She has not been thing to focus on. She has not been stabbed yet. Then Brendan walks in, stabbed yet. Then Brendan walks in, stabbed yet. Then Brendan walks in, which in that moment, Christine must which in that moment, Christine must which in that moment, Christine must have felt so much relief. I right like have felt so much relief. I right like have felt so much relief. I right like her husband is here. She is safe. Thank her husband is here. She is safe. Thank her husband is here. She is safe. Thank God. God. God. >> But that relief was short-lived. Brendan >> But that relief was short-lived. Brendan >> But that relief was short-lived. Brendan shot Joe in the head and Christine told shot Joe in the head and Christine told shot Joe in the head and Christine told them to call 911. Now, for some reason, them to call 911. Now, for some reason, them to call 911. Now, for some reason, Juliana dialed before Brendan gave the Juliana dialed before Brendan gave the Juliana dialed before Brendan gave the go-ahad. That is when that first call go-ahad. That is when that first call go-ahad. That is when that first call was made, the one that was just a few was made, the one that was just a few was made, the one that was just a few seconds where you hear like a moan, but seconds where you hear like a moan, but seconds where you hear like a moan, but Brendan motioned for her to hang up like Brendan motioned for her to hang up like Brendan motioned for her to hang up like it wasn't time yet. He told her to go it wasn't time yet. He told her to go it wasn't time yet. He told her to go get a towel, then to go to the gun safe, get a towel, then to go to the gun safe, get a towel, then to go to the gun safe, even though she had the gun she needed.

even though she had the gun she needed. even though she had the gun she needed. And then when she came back, Brendan was And then when she came back, Brendan was And then when she came back, Brendan was on top of Christine, stabbing her in the on top of Christine, stabbing her in the on top of Christine, stabbing her in the neck. Then Joe stirred. So Juliana shot neck. Then Joe stirred. So Juliana shot neck. Then Joe stirred. So Juliana shot him like she'd been trained to do. him like she'd been trained to do. him like she'd been trained to do. Remember, he took her to the shooting Remember, he took her to the shooting Remember, he took her to the shooting range. And he'd actually bought that range. And he'd actually bought that range. And he'd actually bought that second gun just weeks before everything second gun just weeks before everything second gun just weeks before everything went down. That doesn't feel like it's went down. That doesn't feel like it's went down. That doesn't feel like it's for protection. for protection. for protection. >> He wanted her to be implicated. >> He wanted her to be implicated. >> He wanted her to be implicated. >> More of a reason for her to stay silent. >> More of a reason for her to stay silent. >> More of a reason for her to stay silent. She watched Brendan drip Christine's She watched Brendan drip Christine's She watched Brendan drip Christine's blood onto Joe's body. And once the blood onto Joe's body. And once the blood onto Joe's body. And once the scene was set, 15 minutes later, this is scene was set, 15 minutes later, this is scene was set, 15 minutes later, this is why she had to hang up the call, right? why she had to hang up the call, right? why she had to hang up the call, right? They're not ready. Once the scene was They're not ready. Once the scene was They're not ready. Once the scene was set, he has her call 911 again. set, he has her call 911 again. set, he has her call 911 again. Detective Goodell noticed something Detective Goodell noticed something Detective Goodell noticed something important about this telling of the day. important about this telling of the day. important about this telling of the day. Now, unlike Juliana's first interview, Now, unlike Juliana's first interview, Now, unlike Juliana's first interview, which felt scripted and hollow, this which felt scripted and hollow, this which felt scripted and hollow, this time Juliana gives sensory details. time Juliana gives sensory details. time Juliana gives sensory details. Christine's warm blood on her hands, the Christine's warm blood on her hands, the Christine's warm blood on her hands, the deafening crack of the gunshot. Her deafening crack of the gunshot. Her deafening crack of the gunshot. Her account matches the evidence. They account matches the evidence. They account matches the evidence. They finally got him. But Brendan is not finally got him. But Brendan is not finally got him. But Brendan is not going down without a fight. His defense going down without a fight. His defense going down without a fight. His defense doesn't just say that investigators got doesn't just say that investigators got doesn't just say that investigators got it wrong. They say the evidence was read it wrong. They say the evidence was read it wrong. They say the evidence was read backwards and that nearly every detail backwards and that nearly every detail backwards and that nearly every detail used to make Brendan look guilty points used to make Brendan look guilty points used to make Brendan look guilty points just as easily toward Joe and Christine.

just as easily toward Joe and Christine. just as easily toward Joe and Christine. And I could spend 10 episodes unpacking And I could spend 10 episodes unpacking And I could spend 10 episodes unpacking everything, but I want to walk you everything, but I want to walk you everything, but I want to walk you through some of the big points of through some of the big points of through some of the big points of contention. Starting with the knife. contention. Starting with the knife. contention. Starting with the knife. Joe's DNA couldn't be eliminated from Joe's DNA couldn't be eliminated from Joe's DNA couldn't be eliminated from the handle, and Christine's couldn't be the handle, and Christine's couldn't be the handle, and Christine's couldn't be eliminated from the blade. Brendan's DNA eliminated from the blade. Brendan's DNA eliminated from the blade. Brendan's DNA is nowhere. Yeah, but Juliana said he is nowhere. Yeah, but Juliana said he is nowhere. Yeah, but Juliana said he was already dripping blood on Joe to was already dripping blood on Joe to was already dripping blood on Joe to stage it. So, he was basically stage it. So, he was basically stage it. So, he was basically controlling where his DNA went. controlling where his DNA went. controlling where his DNA went. >> Yes. But Joe also had a puncture wound >> Yes. But Joe also had a puncture wound >> Yes. But Joe also had a puncture wound on his thumb, which the defense says on his thumb, which the defense says on his thumb, which the defense says could have happened when like a hand could have happened when like a hand could have happened when like a hand slipped down onto the blade, like slipped down onto the blade, like slipped down onto the blade, like midstep. We know that like knives can midstep. We know that like knives can midstep. We know that like knives can get slippery. Brendan didn't have a get slippery. Brendan didn't have a get slippery. Brendan didn't have a scratch on him. And those bloodfree gaps scratch on him. And those bloodfree gaps scratch on him. And those bloodfree gaps between Joe's fingers that I pointed between Joe's fingers that I pointed between Joe's fingers that I pointed out, according to the defense, that just out, according to the defense, that just out, according to the defense, that just shows that Joe's hand was like clenched, shows that Joe's hand was like clenched, shows that Joe's hand was like clenched, like shut as he's like gripping the like shut as he's like gripping the like shut as he's like gripping the knife when Christine's blood got there. knife when Christine's blood got there. knife when Christine's blood got there. Oh, and Christine's blood on Brendan's Oh, and Christine's blood on Brendan's Oh, and Christine's blood on Brendan's clothes, a nothing burger. They say a clothes, a nothing burger. They say a clothes, a nothing burger. They say a husband is trying to help his dying husband is trying to help his dying husband is trying to help his dying wife. While a mix of Christine and Joe's wife. While a mix of Christine and Joe's wife. While a mix of Christine and Joe's blood on the back of Brendan's jacket blood on the back of Brendan's jacket blood on the back of Brendan's jacket shows, they say that Joe hit Brendan shows, they say that Joe hit Brendan shows, they say that Joe hit Brendan from behind. The defense also takes aim from behind. The defense also takes aim from behind. The defense also takes aim at the investigation itself. Key at the investigation itself. Key at the investigation itself. Key evidence was never tested for DNA. Major evidence was never tested for DNA. Major evidence was never tested for DNA. Major blood stains in the carpet, the gun blood stains in the carpet, the gun blood stains in the carpet, the gun safe, even Brendan's personal gun. How safe, even Brendan's personal gun. How safe, even Brendan's personal gun. How does that happen in a double homicide?

does that happen in a double homicide? does that happen in a double homicide? >> Well, I mean, the lab decides what gets >> Well, I mean, the lab decides what gets >> Well, I mean, the lab decides what gets tested. Some items, I guess, weren't tested. Some items, I guess, weren't tested. Some items, I guess, weren't considered useful. Others, like the gun, considered useful. Others, like the gun, considered useful. Others, like the gun, weren't eligible. Still, the defense weren't eligible. Still, the defense weren't eligible. Still, the defense thinks that adds up to some big thinks that adds up to some big thinks that adds up to some big unanswered questions. But honestly, the unanswered questions. But honestly, the unanswered questions. But honestly, the physical evidence in this case is the physical evidence in this case is the physical evidence in this case is the least of the prosecution's worries least of the prosecution's worries least of the prosecution's worries because this case sets off an internal because this case sets off an internal because this case sets off an internal [ __ ] storm at the Fairfax County PD. [ __ ] storm at the Fairfax County PD. [ __ ] storm at the Fairfax County PD. Because it turns out the department's Because it turns out the department's Because it turns out the department's own digital analyst had actually pushed own digital analyst had actually pushed own digital analyst had actually pushed back on the catfishing theory. He back on the catfishing theory. He back on the catfishing theory. He thought that if someone hijacked thought that if someone hijacked thought that if someone hijacked Christine's devices, there would be a Christine's devices, there would be a Christine's devices, there would be a time gap, like breathing room between time gap, like breathing room between time gap, like breathing room between her normal browsing and the explicit her normal browsing and the explicit her normal browsing and the explicit sexual conversations. Instead, he says sexual conversations. Instead, he says sexual conversations. Instead, he says they basically like over overlapped. So, they basically like over overlapped. So, they basically like over overlapped. So, his initial conclusion was that his initial conclusion was that his initial conclusion was that Christine was in control. But isn't that Christine was in control. But isn't that Christine was in control. But isn't that what other investigators think shows the what other investigators think shows the what other investigators think shows the opposite? like that it's not her. opposite? like that it's not her. opposite? like that it's not her. >> Yes. And to police leadership, they >> Yes. And to police leadership, they >> Yes. And to police leadership, they think that this analyst crossed a line. think that this analyst crossed a line. think that this analyst crossed a line. And at the end of the day, data can show And at the end of the day, data can show And at the end of the day, data can show what the devices were doing, not who what the devices were doing, not who what the devices were doing, not who used them, used them, used them, >> right?

>> right? >> right? >> So, that guy got reassigned as did >> So, that guy got reassigned as did >> So, that guy got reassigned as did others who apparently clashed with the others who apparently clashed with the others who apparently clashed with the brass over this case. Now, Chief Davis brass over this case. Now, Chief Davis brass over this case. Now, Chief Davis says that this whole thing was blown out says that this whole thing was blown out says that this whole thing was blown out of proportion publicly, but multiple of proportion publicly, but multiple of proportion publicly, but multiple officers say that higher-ups pushed the officers say that higher-ups pushed the officers say that higher-ups pushed the catfishing theory before the evidence catfishing theory before the evidence catfishing theory before the evidence backed it up. To the defense, it was backed it up. To the defense, it was backed it up. To the defense, it was textbook tunnel vision. And here's the textbook tunnel vision. And here's the textbook tunnel vision. And here's the weird kicker when it comes to digital weird kicker when it comes to digital weird kicker when it comes to digital data. There was a security code text data. There was a security code text data. There was a security code text sent to Christine's phone by the chat sent to Christine's phone by the chat sent to Christine's phone by the chat app that the Anastasia 9 account used app that the Anastasia 9 account used app that the Anastasia 9 account used with Joe. That text was still in her with Joe. That text was still in her with Joe. That text was still in her messages. So, if Brendan and Juliana messages. So, if Brendan and Juliana messages. So, if Brendan and Juliana were running the account, wouldn't they were running the account, wouldn't they were running the account, wouldn't they have like deleted it? Then there were have like deleted it? Then there were have like deleted it? Then there were some ground rules that Anastasia 9 some ground rules that Anastasia 9 some ground rules that Anastasia 9 account set that don't really make a ton account set that don't really make a ton account set that don't really make a ton of sense for a frame job. No visible of sense for a frame job. No visible of sense for a frame job. No visible marks, no bodily fluids. Like, if the marks, no bodily fluids. Like, if the marks, no bodily fluids. Like, if the goal is to lure a psy, why bother with goal is to lure a psy, why bother with goal is to lure a psy, why bother with those boundaries? Like, that only makes those boundaries? Like, that only makes those boundaries? Like, that only makes sense if Christine is behind the sense if Christine is behind the sense if Christine is behind the account. account. account. >> I mean, or if they're trying to make it >> I mean, or if they're trying to make it >> I mean, or if they're trying to make it seem like more legit.

seem like more legit. seem like more legit. >> I don't know. But strip everything away. >> I don't know. But strip everything away. >> I don't know. But strip everything away. And really, the most solid thing they And really, the most solid thing they And really, the most solid thing they have in this case against Brendan is have in this case against Brendan is have in this case against Brendan is Juliana, the woman who spent a year Juliana, the woman who spent a year Juliana, the woman who spent a year proclaiming her innocence and pledging proclaiming her innocence and pledging proclaiming her innocence and pledging loyalty to Brendan. To the defense, she loyalty to Brendan. To the defense, she loyalty to Brendan. To the defense, she had every reason to make up a story like had every reason to make up a story like had every reason to make up a story like this. She's miserable in jail. You're this. She's miserable in jail. You're this. She's miserable in jail. You're going to offer her time served if she going to offer her time served if she going to offer her time served if she gives up Brendan on a silver platter? gives up Brendan on a silver platter? gives up Brendan on a silver platter? Like, that is a sweetheart deal. And the Like, that is a sweetheart deal. And the Like, that is a sweetheart deal. And the defense says, "Of course, her account defense says, "Of course, her account defense says, "Of course, her account matches most of the evidence now because matches most of the evidence now because matches most of the evidence now because she got to read all of the discovery." she got to read all of the discovery." she got to read all of the discovery." >> Basically, as Brendan's trial begins in >> Basically, as Brendan's trial begins in >> Basically, as Brendan's trial begins in January 2026, the defense's case boils January 2026, the defense's case boils January 2026, the defense's case boils down to this. The Fetlife account was down to this. The Fetlife account was down to this. The Fetlife account was Christine's. She was arranging these Christine's. She was arranging these Christine's. She was arranging these encounters for herself. Tragically, she encounters for herself. Tragically, she encounters for herself. Tragically, she got more than she bargained for with got more than she bargained for with got more than she bargained for with Joe. And Juliana is lying her way out of Joe. And Juliana is lying her way out of Joe. And Juliana is lying her way out of a prison cell, leveraging her testimony a prison cell, leveraging her testimony a prison cell, leveraging her testimony and a potential Netflix deal. By the and a potential Netflix deal. By the and a potential Netflix deal. By the way, way, way, >> Netflix? Who's calling Netflix? When'd >> Netflix? Who's calling Netflix? When'd >> Netflix? Who's calling Netflix? When'd they get here?

they get here? they get here? >> She'd been shopping her story to >> She'd been shopping her story to >> She'd been shopping her story to producers with Netflix ties, although producers with Netflix ties, although producers with Netflix ties, although she was holding out for more after they she was holding out for more after they she was holding out for more after they initially only offered her $10,000. And initially only offered her $10,000. And initially only offered her $10,000. And something like that appears to actually, something like that appears to actually, something like that appears to actually, by the way, still be in the works, even by the way, still be in the works, even by the way, still be in the works, even though her lawyer stopped her from though her lawyer stopped her from though her lawyer stopped her from signing anything before Brendan's trial. signing anything before Brendan's trial. signing anything before Brendan's trial. Meanwhile, you got to remember this Meanwhile, you got to remember this Meanwhile, you got to remember this whole time like that this is going on, whole time like that this is going on, whole time like that this is going on, she's been in jail. They've been she's been in jail. They've been she's been in jail. They've been investigating. Brendan has barely said a investigating. Brendan has barely said a investigating. Brendan has barely said a word about what happened that day. So, word about what happened that day. So, word about what happened that day. So, imagine the jolt in the courtroom when imagine the jolt in the courtroom when imagine the jolt in the courtroom when he takes the stand. When Brendan gets on the stand, he tells When Brendan gets on the stand, he tells the jury he loved Christine and was the jury he loved Christine and was the jury he loved Christine and was committed to his marriage. but they had committed to his marriage. but they had committed to his marriage. but they had problems, especially around sex. He problems, especially around sex. He problems, especially around sex. He wanted it more often. And he says that wanted it more often. And he says that wanted it more often. And he says that she wanted something very different from she wanted something very different from she wanted something very different from what he was into. He alleged that what he was into. He alleged that what he was into. He alleged that Christine had affairs and at least one Christine had affairs and at least one Christine had affairs and at least one of them involved BDSM and he knew that of them involved BDSM and he knew that of them involved BDSM and he knew that she was into that. On his end, most she was into that. On his end, most she was into that. On his end, most flings stayed casual. Then he and flings stayed casual. Then he and flings stayed casual. Then he and Juliana got involved in August 2022 when Juliana got involved in August 2022 when Juliana got involved in August 2022 when Christine and their daughter were out of Christine and their daughter were out of Christine and their daughter were out of town. But he made it clear to Juliana town. But he made it clear to Juliana town. But he made it clear to Juliana he's a married man. he wasn't going he's a married man. he wasn't going he's a married man. he wasn't going anywhere. By February 2023, it had anywhere. By February 2023, it had anywhere. By February 2023, it had pretty much run its course, he said. He pretty much run its course, he said. He pretty much run its course, he said. He says Juliana was jealous of Christine, says Juliana was jealous of Christine, says Juliana was jealous of Christine, didn't want to deal with it anymore, and didn't want to deal with it anymore, and didn't want to deal with it anymore, and told him that she was seeing other told him that she was seeing other told him that she was seeing other people.

people. people. >> Well, that obviously didn't stick >> Well, that obviously didn't stick >> Well, that obviously didn't stick because why is she having Christine's because why is she having Christine's because why is she having Christine's daughter call her mommy the night her daughter call her mommy the night her daughter call her mommy the night her mom died, was killed. mom died, was killed. mom died, was killed. >> It doesn't track. But according to >> It doesn't track. But according to >> It doesn't track. But according to Brendan, they were still off on the Brendan, they were still off on the Brendan, they were still off on the morning of February 24th, which he says morning of February 24th, which he says morning of February 24th, which he says started earlier than usual. He says he started earlier than usual. He says he started earlier than usual. He says he wanted to prep that morning for this big wanted to prep that morning for this big wanted to prep that morning for this big meeting tied to one of his IRS cases. If meeting tied to one of his IRS cases. If meeting tied to one of his IRS cases. If it went well, he might get a promotion. it went well, he might get a promotion. it went well, he might get a promotion. By the way, spot the lie. His supervisor By the way, spot the lie. His supervisor By the way, spot the lie. His supervisor testifies after him, but I'll give you testifies after him, but I'll give you testifies after him, but I'll give you the goods at the top so you have the the goods at the top so you have the the goods at the top so you have the right lens in which to view his right lens in which to view his right lens in which to view his testimony. What do you know? There was testimony. What do you know? There was testimony. What do you know? There was no meeting. The entire foundation of no meeting. The entire foundation of no meeting. The entire foundation of Brendan's story is BS. Brendan's story is BS. Brendan's story is BS. >> Cool. But anyway, Brendan says that >> Cool. But anyway, Brendan says that >> Cool. But anyway, Brendan says that Christine was awake in bed with her Christine was awake in bed with her Christine was awake in bed with her phone and laptop when he left around 7 phone and laptop when he left around 7 phone and laptop when he left around 7 that morning. that morning. that morning. >> Another lie. Didn't you say her phone >> Another lie. Didn't you say her phone >> Another lie. Didn't you say her phone was turned off earlier that morning? was turned off earlier that morning? was turned off earlier that morning? >> He has a response to that. He is >> He has a response to that. He is >> He has a response to that. He is claiming that she had it with her. He claiming that she had it with her. He claiming that she had it with her. He didn't know if she was actually like didn't know if she was actually like didn't know if she was actually like doing anything on it. doing anything on it. doing anything on it. >> Then why would she stash it downstairs >> Then why would she stash it downstairs >> Then why would she stash it downstairs in a bar cart drawer?

in a bar cart drawer? in a bar cart drawer? >> It makes no sense. So Brendan says that >> It makes no sense. So Brendan says that >> It makes no sense. So Brendan says that he goes to McDonald's, got breakfast at he goes to McDonald's, got breakfast at he goes to McDonald's, got breakfast at the drive-thru, then went inside just to the drive-thru, then went inside just to the drive-thru, then went inside just to use the restroom for more than 7 use the restroom for more than 7 use the restroom for more than 7 minutes. According to surveillance minutes. According to surveillance minutes. According to surveillance footage, footage, footage, >> cuz you've got to sell the lie. >> cuz you've got to sell the lie. >> cuz you've got to sell the lie. >> And that's when Juliana called. A >> And that's when Juliana called. A >> And that's when Juliana called. A strange man had just walked into their strange man had just walked into their strange man had just walked into their house. He tried Christine, got house. He tried Christine, got house. He tried Christine, got voicemail, headed home. He said that he voicemail, headed home. He said that he voicemail, headed home. He said that he thought he was probably going to be thought he was probably going to be thought he was probably going to be walking in on an affair, which is why he walking in on an affair, which is why he walking in on an affair, which is why he didn't call 911 initially. That's also didn't call 911 initially. That's also didn't call 911 initially. That's also why he says he used the basement door to why he says he used the basement door to why he says he used the basement door to get into the house. The front door would get into the house. The front door would get into the house. The front door would have been noisy and he didn't want have been noisy and he didn't want have been noisy and he didn't want Christine to know that she was basically Christine to know that she was basically Christine to know that she was basically caught. Or you didn't want Joe to get caught. Or you didn't want Joe to get caught. Or you didn't want Joe to get startled and stop and have her realize startled and stop and have her realize startled and stop and have her realize that this was all a setup. that this was all a setup. that this was all a setup. >> Yes. Then he says while he was >> Yes. Then he says while he was >> Yes. Then he says while he was downstairs, the noises which sounded downstairs, the noises which sounded downstairs, the noises which sounded sexual changed. They started sounding sexual changed. They started sounding sexual changed. They started sounding forceful. So he drew his weapon and went forceful. So he drew his weapon and went forceful. So he drew his weapon and went upstairs to the bedroom where he found upstairs to the bedroom where he found upstairs to the bedroom where he found Christine naked on all fours. Kneeling Christine naked on all fours. Kneeling Christine naked on all fours. Kneeling behind her was a man who he later behind her was a man who he later behind her was a man who he later learned was Joe Ryan. And that guy was learned was Joe Ryan. And that guy was learned was Joe Ryan. And that guy was fully clothed staring at him. And fully clothed staring at him. And fully clothed staring at him. And Christine warned him, "The man has a Christine warned him, "The man has a Christine warned him, "The man has a knife." He told Joe that he was law knife." He told Joe that he was law knife." He told Joe that he was law enforcement and to drop the knife. Joe enforcement and to drop the knife. Joe enforcement and to drop the knife. Joe told him to drop the gun. It was told him to drop the gun. It was told him to drop the gun. It was basically like a standoff. And at some basically like a standoff. And at some basically like a standoff. And at some point, Joe also asked to leave and asked point, Joe also asked to leave and asked point, Joe also asked to leave and asked Brendan to leave. Brendan told him that Brendan to leave. Brendan told him that Brendan to leave. Brendan told him that he was under arrest. And Brendan tells he was under arrest. And Brendan tells he was under arrest. And Brendan tells the jury that he was scared at this the jury that he was scared at this the jury that he was scared at this point. Never been more terrified in his point. Never been more terrified in his point. Never been more terrified in his life. And he just repeated that he life. And he just repeated that he life. And he just repeated that he wanted him to let her go. And then wanted him to let her go. And then wanted him to let her go. And then there's this moment where the attorney

there's this moment where the attorney there's this moment where the attorney asks, "And did he say anything to you?" asks, "And did he say anything to you?" asks, "And did he say anything to you?" And I need you to hear what he says in And I need you to hear what he says in And I need you to hear what he says in his own words. So here is an excerpt his own words. So here is an excerpt his own words. So here is an excerpt from Brendan testifying at his trial from Brendan testifying at his trial from Brendan testifying at his trial from Court TV. from Court TV. from Court TV. >> And he did he say anything to you? >> And he did he say anything to you? >> And he did he say anything to you? >> He did. Um he he told me that she was >> He did. Um he he told me that she was >> He did. Um he he told me that she was hers. That that Yeah. that she was hers hers. That that Yeah. that she was hers hers. That that Yeah. that she was hers and that she gave herself to me. And and that she gave herself to me. And and that she gave herself to me. And Christine Christine Christine kind of yelled, moaned kind of yelled, moaned kind of yelled, moaned >> at this at this point also. >> at this at this point also. >> at this at this point also. >> Okay. I'm sorry. You said she was hers. >> Okay. I'm sorry. You said she was hers. >> Okay. I'm sorry. You said she was hers. >> She was his. Sorry. She was his. >> She was his. Sorry. She was his. >> She was his. Sorry. She was his. >> Can you stay say the whole statement of >> Can you stay say the whole statement of >> Can you stay say the whole statement of what? Um, he st he said that what? Um, he st he said that what? Um, he st he said that that she was his and that she gave she that she was his and that she gave she that she was his and that she gave she gave herself to him. To me is what she gave herself to him. To me is what she gave herself to him. To me is what she gave herself to me is what he said.

gave herself to me is what he said. gave herself to me is what he said. >> Okay. And and uh I'm sorry I >> Okay. And and uh I'm sorry I >> Okay. And and uh I'm sorry I interrupted. What happened then? Christine Christine kind of kind of kind of yelled or moaned and or both and yelled or moaned and or both and yelled or moaned and or both and uh it seems that she went to her left, uh it seems that she went to her left, uh it seems that she went to her left, my right a little bit. Is he fumbling on my right a little bit. Is he fumbling on my right a little bit. Is he fumbling on the stand because there is a lot on the the stand because there is a lot on the the stand because there is a lot on the line and he's recounting a very high line and he's recounting a very high line and he's recounting a very high stress trauma moment? Possibly. But it's stress trauma moment? Possibly. But it's stress trauma moment? Possibly. But it's also hard to remember what words to use also hard to remember what words to use also hard to remember what words to use if it didn't really happen. if it didn't really happen. if it didn't really happen. >> I feel like the only glimpse I saw of >> I feel like the only glimpse I saw of >> I feel like the only glimpse I saw of something real was when he was talking something real was when he was talking something real was when he was talking about Christine like moaning. about Christine like moaning. about Christine like moaning. >> And you know that must have been a real >> And you know that must have been a real >> And you know that must have been a real moment at some point. No matter who is moment at some point. No matter who is moment at some point. No matter who is holding the knife. Brendan says that holding the knife. Brendan says that holding the knife. Brendan says that when Christine moved, Joe lunged toward when Christine moved, Joe lunged toward when Christine moved, Joe lunged toward her with the knife. She cried out and her with the knife. She cried out and her with the knife. She cried out and spun away, landing on her stomach on the spun away, landing on her stomach on the spun away, landing on her stomach on the floor. When Joe brought the knife down floor. When Joe brought the knife down floor. When Joe brought the knife down toward her again, Brendan fired one shot toward her again, Brendan fired one shot toward her again, Brendan fired one shot at his head.

at his head. at his head. >> Wait, how many times was she stabbed? >> Wait, how many times was she stabbed? >> Wait, how many times was she stabbed? >> Yeah, something's not adding up, right? >> Yeah, something's not adding up, right? >> Yeah, something's not adding up, right? She stabbed six times in the neck. What She stabbed six times in the neck. What She stabbed six times in the neck. What he just described is two. And like what he just described is two. And like what he just described is two. And like what was he doing? Like just standing there was he doing? Like just standing there was he doing? Like just standing there with his service weapon drawn, watching with his service weapon drawn, watching with his service weapon drawn, watching his wife get stabbed again and again and his wife get stabbed again and again and his wife get stabbed again and again and again. Like again. Like again. Like >> yeah, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> his explanation is that he was scared to >> his explanation is that he was scared to >> his explanation is that he was scared to shoot, afraid that he would miss Joe and shoot, afraid that he would miss Joe and shoot, afraid that he would miss Joe and hit Christine. But his timeline is also hit Christine. But his timeline is also hit Christine. But his timeline is also murky. Like Brendan says, maybe Joe murky. Like Brendan says, maybe Joe murky. Like Brendan says, maybe Joe stabbed her before he got in the room. stabbed her before he got in the room. stabbed her before he got in the room. Maybe it was after. Like he's not sure. Maybe it was after. Like he's not sure. Maybe it was after. Like he's not sure. He just knows that after he shot Joe, he He just knows that after he shot Joe, he He just knows that after he shot Joe, he moved the knife away from him, sets his moved the knife away from him, sets his moved the knife away from him, sets his gun down, and knelt beside Christine. gun down, and knelt beside Christine. gun down, and knelt beside Christine. She was still alive. Her own training She was still alive. Her own training She was still alive. Her own training must have kicked in because she was must have kicked in because she was must have kicked in because she was already applying pressure to her wounds. already applying pressure to her wounds. already applying pressure to her wounds. And she was talking to him, she said, And she was talking to him, she said, And she was talking to him, she said, telling him that she loved him. telling him that she loved him. telling him that she loved him. >> She's talking with six knife wounds to >> She's talking with six knife wounds to >> She's talking with six knife wounds to her neck. Dying words, Brit. She loves her neck. Dying words, Brit. She loves her neck. Dying words, Brit. She loves him and she's sorry. That's when he says him and she's sorry. That's when he says him and she's sorry. That's when he says Juliana appeared. He says he was focused Juliana appeared. He says he was focused Juliana appeared. He says he was focused on Christine, covered in her blood. So, on Christine, covered in her blood. So, on Christine, covered in her blood. So, he directed Juliana to call 911 and to he directed Juliana to call 911 and to he directed Juliana to call 911 and to keep an eye on Joe. Now, what he doesn't keep an eye on Joe. Now, what he doesn't keep an eye on Joe. Now, what he doesn't know at the time, he says, is that know at the time, he says, is that know at the time, he says, is that Juliana got his other gun out of the Juliana got his other gun out of the Juliana got his other gun out of the safe. She knew the code because it was safe. She knew the code because it was safe. She knew the code because it was the same one that they used for the the same one that they used for the the same one that they used for the front door. According to him, he is on front door. According to him, he is on front door. According to him, he is on the ground. Christine telling him she the ground. Christine telling him she the ground. Christine telling him she loved him. When Joe hit him in the back, loved him. When Joe hit him in the back, loved him. When Joe hit him in the back, another shot rang out and he says that another shot rang out and he says that another shot rang out and he says that he was stunned. But the way he tells it, he was stunned. But the way he tells it, he was stunned. But the way he tells it, he also thought Juliana may have saved

he also thought Juliana may have saved he also thought Juliana may have saved his life. It's one of the reasons he his life. It's one of the reasons he his life. It's one of the reasons he fell in love with her, he says. But only fell in love with her, he says. But only fell in love with her, he says. But only after Christine died, that's when things after Christine died, that's when things after Christine died, that's when things got really serious. And look, you can got really serious. And look, you can got really serious. And look, you can pick apart every piece of this case. You pick apart every piece of this case. You pick apart every piece of this case. You can argue about the knife DNA. You can can argue about the knife DNA. You can can argue about the knife DNA. You can question why certain evidence was never question why certain evidence was never question why certain evidence was never tested. You can debate whether Juliana's tested. You can debate whether Juliana's tested. You can debate whether Juliana's testimony is credible or self-s serving. testimony is credible or self-s serving. testimony is credible or self-s serving. And Brendan's defense gave the jury And Brendan's defense gave the jury And Brendan's defense gave the jury reasons to do all of that, but even if reasons to do all of that, but even if reasons to do all of that, but even if you set aside every contested detail, you set aside every contested detail, you set aside every contested detail, every he said, she said, there is one every he said, she said, there is one every he said, she said, there is one thing that is hard to explain away, and thing that is hard to explain away, and thing that is hard to explain away, and it takes us right back to where this it takes us right back to where this it takes us right back to where this story started. That 15-minute gap story started. That 15-minute gap story started. That 15-minute gap between 911 calls. Christine had a blood between 911 calls. Christine had a blood between 911 calls. Christine had a blood clotting disorder that made her bruise clotting disorder that made her bruise clotting disorder that made her bruise easily and bleed more than the average easily and bleed more than the average easily and bleed more than the average person, which means two things. One, she person, which means two things. One, she person, which means two things. One, she would never have consented to a violent would never have consented to a violent would never have consented to a violent knife play. The risk of uncontrollable knife play. The risk of uncontrollable knife play. The risk of uncontrollable bleeding was too high, and she knew that bleeding was too high, and she knew that bleeding was too high, and she knew that about her own body. And two, once she about her own body. And two, once she about her own body. And two, once she was stabbed, she bled fast and hard.

was stabbed, she bled fast and hard. was stabbed, she bled fast and hard. Prosecutors point out that Brendan knew Prosecutors point out that Brendan knew Prosecutors point out that Brendan knew that that those 15 minutes weren't chaos that that those 15 minutes weren't chaos that that those 15 minutes weren't chaos or panic or confusion. It was the time or panic or confusion. It was the time or panic or confusion. It was the time he needed to stage the scene and to make he needed to stage the scene and to make he needed to stage the scene and to make sure that by the time help arrived, sure that by the time help arrived, sure that by the time help arrived, Christine couldn't tell anyone what Christine couldn't tell anyone what Christine couldn't tell anyone what really happened and she wouldn't make really happened and she wouldn't make really happened and she wouldn't make it. Now, Brendan says that he thought it. Now, Brendan says that he thought it. Now, Brendan says that he thought Juliana made the first 911 call on her Juliana made the first 911 call on her Juliana made the first 911 call on her own from the basement while he was own from the basement while he was own from the basement while he was already upstairs. and that the groaning already upstairs. and that the groaning already upstairs. and that the groaning sound on the line wasn't Joe dying, it sound on the line wasn't Joe dying, it sound on the line wasn't Joe dying, it was the family dog. And they say that if was the family dog. And they say that if was the family dog. And they say that if the moan was the dog and not a dying the moan was the dog and not a dying the moan was the dog and not a dying man, then the whole theory that Joe was man, then the whole theory that Joe was man, then the whole theory that Joe was already mortally wounded while they already mortally wounded while they already mortally wounded while they spent that time staging, they say that spent that time staging, they say that spent that time staging, they say that falls apart. But the jury isn't buying falls apart. But the jury isn't buying falls apart. But the jury isn't buying it. They're out for nearly 9 hours over it. They're out for nearly 9 hours over it. They're out for nearly 9 hours over 2 days. And after that, Brendan Banfield 2 days. And after that, Brendan Banfield 2 days. And after that, Brendan Banfield is found guilty on all counts. According is found guilty on all counts. According is found guilty on all counts. According to NBC4 Washington reporter Drew Wilder, to NBC4 Washington reporter Drew Wilder, to NBC4 Washington reporter Drew Wilder, Brendan's attorney tried to have the Brendan's attorney tried to have the Brendan's attorney tried to have the verdict tossed, but the judge didn't go verdict tossed, but the judge didn't go verdict tossed, but the judge didn't go for it. And on June 5th, he was for it. And on June 5th, he was for it. And on June 5th, he was sentenced to a mandatory term of life in sentenced to a mandatory term of life in sentenced to a mandatory term of life in prison without the possibility of prison without the possibility of prison without the possibility of parole. The judge told Brendan that his parole. The judge told Brendan that his parole. The judge told Brendan that his actions were driven by deep inherent actions were driven by deep inherent actions were driven by deep inherent evil. The kind of calculating, evil. The kind of calculating, evil. The kind of calculating, remorseless evil she'd only seen a remorseless evil she'd only seen a remorseless evil she'd only seen a couple of times before this in her 18 couple of times before this in her 18 couple of times before this in her 18 years on the bench. and she reminded him years on the bench. and she reminded him years on the bench. and she reminded him that he would have been facing the death that he would have been facing the death that he would have been facing the death penalty had Virginia not abolished it

penalty had Virginia not abolished it penalty had Virginia not abolished it just a few short years ago. This case just a few short years ago. This case just a few short years ago. This case may be closed, but a crime like this may be closed, but a crime like this may be closed, but a crime like this will have ripple effects for a lifetime. will have ripple effects for a lifetime. will have ripple effects for a lifetime. And I never want people to forget the And I never want people to forget the And I never want people to forget the little girl at the center of all of little girl at the center of all of little girl at the center of all of this. Christine's daughter had lost her this. Christine's daughter had lost her this. Christine's daughter had lost her mother and now her father. And the pain mother and now her father. And the pain mother and now her father. And the pain that she'll have to reckon with one day that she'll have to reckon with one day that she'll have to reckon with one day is something that people return to again is something that people return to again is something that people return to again and again at Brendan's sentencing, and again at Brendan's sentencing, and again at Brendan's sentencing, including Christine's sister Danielle. including Christine's sister Danielle. including Christine's sister Danielle. She will eventually come to terms with She will eventually come to terms with She will eventually come to terms with the fact that her father, the person who the fact that her father, the person who the fact that her father, the person who was meant to protect her above all else, was meant to protect her above all else, was meant to protect her above all else, used her and put her directly in harm's used her and put her directly in harm's used her and put her directly in harm's way. Now, the little girl is at the way. Now, the little girl is at the way. Now, the little girl is at the center of a new legal battle. It appears center of a new legal battle. It appears center of a new legal battle. It appears that Brendan's mother and Christine's that Brendan's mother and Christine's that Brendan's mother and Christine's family are fighting over custody of her. family are fighting over custody of her. family are fighting over custody of her. Meanwhile, a wrongful death suit filed Meanwhile, a wrongful death suit filed Meanwhile, a wrongful death suit filed on Christine's behalf is pending. So on Christine's behalf is pending. So on Christine's behalf is pending. So much of the story has been about the much of the story has been about the much of the story has been about the plot, the legalities, the lies, and the plot, the legalities, the lies, and the plot, the legalities, the lies, and the people who did this. And Christine and people who did this. And Christine and people who did this. And Christine and Joe aren't just names in a case file.

Joe aren't just names in a case file. Joe aren't just names in a case file. They're people. Christine had an They're people. Christine had an They're people. Christine had an infectious laugh and a huge smile. And infectious laugh and a huge smile. And infectious laugh and a huge smile. And she loved the simple stuff. her family's she loved the simple stuff. her family's she loved the simple stuff. her family's Italian food traditions, '90s boy bands, Italian food traditions, '90s boy bands, Italian food traditions, '90s boy bands, but more than anything, she loved her but more than anything, she loved her but more than anything, she loved her daughter. She was warm and kind, the daughter. She was warm and kind, the daughter. She was warm and kind, the type who made others feel comfortable, type who made others feel comfortable, type who made others feel comfortable, and she was honest. So when Brendan and she was honest. So when Brendan and she was honest. So when Brendan tried to recast her as someone else, her tried to recast her as someone else, her tried to recast her as someone else, her family knew better. family knew better. family knew better. As Christine's sister, I didn't just As Christine's sister, I didn't just As Christine's sister, I didn't just lose her. I had to sit and listen to a lose her. I had to sit and listen to a lose her. I had to sit and listen to a version of her that did not exist. I version of her that did not exist. I version of her that did not exist. I knew her in a way that he never could. I knew her in a way that he never could. I knew her in a way that he never could. I knew her honesty, her compassion, her knew her honesty, her compassion, her knew her honesty, her compassion, her refusal to live with secrets. Hearing refusal to live with secrets. Hearing refusal to live with secrets. Hearing him attempt to rewrite her life and her him attempt to rewrite her life and her him attempt to rewrite her life and her character felt like losing her all over character felt like losing her all over character felt like losing her all over again, piece by piece in a room where again, piece by piece in a room where again, piece by piece in a room where she could not defend herself. she could not defend herself. she could not defend herself. As for Joe, his best friend, Zulu, told As for Joe, his best friend, Zulu, told As for Joe, his best friend, Zulu, told our reporter Nina, that he was goofy and our reporter Nina, that he was goofy and our reporter Nina, that he was goofy and loyal, a reliable friend, and a deeply loyal, a reliable friend, and a deeply loyal, a reliable friend, and a deeply compassionate guy. Like the type of compassionate guy. Like the type of compassionate guy. Like the type of person who did the right thing even when person who did the right thing even when person who did the right thing even when no one was watching. And in all this, I no one was watching. And in all this, I no one was watching. And in all this, I still can't believe that Juliana got off still can't believe that Juliana got off still can't believe that Juliana got off with time served.

with time served. with time served. >> Well, hey, so actually that didn't >> Well, hey, so actually that didn't >> Well, hey, so actually that didn't happen. Prosecutors recommended it as happen. Prosecutors recommended it as happen. Prosecutors recommended it as promised, but in a huge win for this promised, but in a huge win for this promised, but in a huge win for this case. The judge decided Juliana deserves case. The judge decided Juliana deserves case. The judge decided Juliana deserves the maximum, which was 10 years. And at the maximum, which was 10 years. And at the maximum, which was 10 years. And at her sentencing, and again at Brendan's, her sentencing, and again at Brendan's, her sentencing, and again at Brendan's, Joe's mom and aunt spoke about the son Joe's mom and aunt spoke about the son Joe's mom and aunt spoke about the son and nephew that they lost. the rock of and nephew that they lost. the rock of and nephew that they lost. the rock of the family, a guy who went out of his the family, a guy who went out of his the family, a guy who went out of his way to rescue old and injured dogs. They way to rescue old and injured dogs. They way to rescue old and injured dogs. They say that Joe wasn't only murdered in say that Joe wasn't only murdered in say that Joe wasn't only murdered in that bedroom. His character was that bedroom. His character was that bedroom. His character was assassinated over and over again. Every assassinated over and over again. Every assassinated over and over again. Every time that Brendan and Juliana lied about time that Brendan and Juliana lied about time that Brendan and Juliana lied about what happened. Here is his aunt Sangita. what happened. Here is his aunt Sangita. what happened. Here is his aunt Sangita. He didn't just take Joe and Christine He didn't just take Joe and Christine He didn't just take Joe and Christine from us. He tried to erase the truth of from us. He tried to erase the truth of from us. He tried to erase the truth of who they were and in doing so inflicted who they were and in doing so inflicted who they were and in doing so inflicted further harm on the people who love further harm on the people who love further harm on the people who love them. them. them. They're right because what Brendan did, They're right because what Brendan did, They're right because what Brendan did, what Juliana helped him do wasn't just what Juliana helped him do wasn't just what Juliana helped him do wasn't just about saving themselves. They were about saving themselves. They were about saving themselves. They were selling a story where they were the selling a story where they were the selling a story where they were the heroes. But every hero needs a villain.

heroes. But every hero needs a villain. heroes. But every hero needs a villain. So Joe became the violent predator and So Joe became the violent predator and So Joe became the violent predator and Christine became the immoral cheating Christine became the immoral cheating Christine became the immoral cheating wife who brought this on herself. There wife who brought this on herself. There wife who brought this on herself. There is zero indication any of that is true, is zero indication any of that is true, is zero indication any of that is true, but it's what Brendan continues to tell but it's what Brendan continues to tell but it's what Brendan continues to tell the world about Joe and about his own the world about Joe and about his own the world about Joe and about his own wife, the mother of the child both he wife, the mother of the child both he wife, the mother of the child both he and Juliana claimed to love so much. And and Juliana claimed to love so much. And and Juliana claimed to love so much. And for what? So Brendan could dodge a child for what? So Brendan could dodge a child for what? So Brendan could dodge a child support check so he could control support check so he could control support check so he could control everything and hold on to the house, the everything and hold on to the house, the everything and hold on to the house, the image, the lifestyle that he wanted to image, the lifestyle that he wanted to image, the lifestyle that he wanted to keep while he banged anyone who would keep while he banged anyone who would keep while he banged anyone who would give him the chance. All told, Christine give him the chance. All told, Christine give him the chance. All told, Christine and Brendan were together for nearly two and Brendan were together for nearly two and Brendan were together for nearly two decades. Like, after that much time, you decades. Like, after that much time, you decades. Like, after that much time, you shouldn't have to look over your shouldn't have to look over your shouldn't have to look over your shoulder or question your partner's shoulder or question your partner's shoulder or question your partner's every move. And I don't know what the every move. And I don't know what the every move. And I don't know what the red flag was. I don't know what the red flag was. I don't know what the red flag was. I don't know what the warning sign was that something like warning sign was that something like warning sign was that something like this was even possible. Christine's this was even possible. Christine's this was even possible. Christine's sister said that she's replayed every sister said that she's replayed every sister said that she's replayed every moment looking for something that she moment looking for something that she moment looking for something that she missed. But Brendan hid so much, she missed. But Brendan hid so much, she missed. But Brendan hid so much, she doesn't think that anyone really knew doesn't think that anyone really knew doesn't think that anyone really knew him. And during our reporting, we kept him. And during our reporting, we kept him. And during our reporting, we kept hearing the same word to describe hearing the same word to describe hearing the same word to describe Brendan. Narcissist. Now, I'm not a Brendan. Narcissist. Now, I'm not a Brendan. Narcissist. Now, I'm not a psychologist. I'm not going to try and psychologist. I'm not going to try and psychologist. I'm not going to try and diagnose a man that I've never met, but diagnose a man that I've never met, but diagnose a man that I've never met, but it came up so much that it's worth it came up so much that it's worth it came up so much that it's worth taking a minute to talk about taking a minute to talk about taking a minute to talk about narcissistic abuse. Advocates often narcissistic abuse. Advocates often narcissistic abuse. Advocates often describe it as a pattern of emotional describe it as a pattern of emotional describe it as a pattern of emotional and psychological mistreatment that can and psychological mistreatment that can and psychological mistreatment that can include gaslighting, blameshifting, include gaslighting, blameshifting, include gaslighting, blameshifting, constant criticism, humiliation, constant criticism, humiliation, constant criticism, humiliation, isolation, and more. The through line is

isolation, and more. The through line is isolation, and more. The through line is control. Like wearing down another control. Like wearing down another control. Like wearing down another person's confidence, their independence, person's confidence, their independence, person's confidence, their independence, and even their sense of what is real. We and even their sense of what is real. We and even their sense of what is real. We don't know if that's what Christine was don't know if that's what Christine was don't know if that's what Christine was dealing with. Like obviously Brendan was dealing with. Like obviously Brendan was dealing with. Like obviously Brendan was unfaithful, but that doesn't tell us how unfaithful, but that doesn't tell us how unfaithful, but that doesn't tell us how he treated her in the ordinary moments he treated her in the ordinary moments he treated her in the ordinary moments of their marriage. What I do know is of their marriage. What I do know is of their marriage. What I do know is that a person tells you who they are that a person tells you who they are that a person tells you who they are through their actions. through their actions. through their actions. >> So listen to them. I mean, words can get >> So listen to them. I mean, words can get >> So listen to them. I mean, words can get distracting. You should feel loved and distracting. You should feel loved and distracting. You should feel loved and appreciated. And a person's relationship appreciated. And a person's relationship appreciated. And a person's relationship with themselves is like any other. Like with themselves is like any other. Like with themselves is like any other. Like what you feed grows. Brendan fed his own what you feed grows. Brendan fed his own what you feed grows. Brendan fed his own ego again and again. And when that's the ego again and again. And when that's the ego again and again. And when that's the trade someone keeps making, when hurting trade someone keeps making, when hurting trade someone keeps making, when hurting the people closest to them stops being the people closest to them stops being the people closest to them stops being the line that they won't cross, the next the line that they won't cross, the next the line that they won't cross, the next line gets easier to cross and then the line gets easier to cross and then the line gets easier to cross and then the next and then the next. So for our crime next and then the next. So for our crime next and then the next. So for our crime junkies listening, above all else, junkies listening, above all else, junkies listening, above all else, remember that you are valuable. You are remember that you are valuable. You are remember that you are valuable. You are not to blame and you deserve to be not to blame and you deserve to be not to blame and you deserve to be really loved.