The Clue Hidden in Joyce LePage’s Own Words

Hi, crime junkies. I'm your host, Ashley Hi, crime junkies. I'm your host, Ashley Flowers. And I'm Brett. Last week, I Flowers. And I'm Brett. Last week, I Flowers. And I'm Brett. Last week, I told you the story of Joyce Leage, a WSU told you the story of Joyce Leage, a WSU told you the story of Joyce Leage, a WSU student who went missing from Stevens student who went missing from Stevens student who went missing from Stevens Hall on campus in 1971. Hall on campus in 1971. Hall on campus in 1971. The same night in 1971 that a swath of The same night in 1971 that a swath of The same night in 1971 that a swath of green carpet from the building went green carpet from the building went green carpet from the building went missing, too. And 55 years after that, missing, too. And 55 years after that, missing, too. And 55 years after that, we still don't know what happened to we still don't know what happened to we still don't know what happened to Joyce on July 22nd, 1971. Joyce on July 22nd, 1971. Joyce on July 22nd, 1971. Over the years, police have developed a Over the years, police have developed a Over the years, police have developed a number of suspects and theories, and I'm number of suspects and theories, and I'm number of suspects and theories, and I'm walking you through six of them. Last walking you through six of them. Last walking you through six of them. Last episode, I told you about Mike Finch, episode, I told you about Mike Finch, episode, I told you about Mike Finch, who investigators cleared with a past who investigators cleared with a past who investigators cleared with a past polygraph in 2013, despite a shaky alibi polygraph in 2013, despite a shaky alibi polygraph in 2013, despite a shaky alibi and changing timelines. They also and changing timelines. They also and changing timelines. They also cleared a tile setter who was working cleared a tile setter who was working cleared a tile setter who was working just yards from Steven's Hall the night just yards from Steven's Hall the night just yards from Steven's Hall the night Joyce vanished because he too passed a Joyce vanished because he too passed a Joyce vanished because he too passed a polygraph. And although Ted Bundy seemed polygraph. And although Ted Bundy seemed polygraph. And although Ted Bundy seemed like a contender in the case of a like a contender in the case of a like a contender in the case of a brown-haired, missing Pacific Northwest brown-haired, missing Pacific Northwest brown-haired, missing Pacific Northwest co-ed in the 1970s, most investigators co-ed in the 1970s, most investigators co-ed in the 1970s, most investigators believe that it is much more likely believe that it is much more likely believe that it is much more likely Joyce was killed by somebody a little Joyce was killed by somebody a little Joyce was killed by somebody a little closer to home, maybe even her new closer to home, maybe even her new closer to home, maybe even her new house. Because it turns out Joyce was house. Because it turns out Joyce was house. Because it turns out Joyce was planning to move to a new house right planning to move to a new house right planning to move to a new house right near where her abandoned car was found.

near where her abandoned car was found. near where her abandoned car was found. And one man inside that house has a And one man inside that house has a And one man inside that house has a scary past that Joyce talked about in scary past that Joyce talked about in scary past that Joyce talked about in her letters. So, let's dive back in. her letters. So, let's dive back in. her letters. So, let's dive back in. I've got three more theories to tell you I've got three more theories to tell you I've got three more theories to tell you about. Starting with the meditation about. Starting with the meditation about. Starting with the meditation group theory. I told you Joyce was one in a million. I told you Joyce was one in a million. She was adventurous and curious. She had She was adventurous and curious. She had She was adventurous and curious. She had her pilot's license by the time she was her pilot's license by the time she was her pilot's license by the time she was 18. And at 21, she was taking skydiving 18. And at 21, she was taking skydiving 18. And at 21, she was taking skydiving lessons. And the summer that she was lessons. And the summer that she was lessons. And the summer that she was killed, one of Joyce's focuses was killed, one of Joyce's focuses was killed, one of Joyce's focuses was meditation. And I don't mean in a casual meditation. And I don't mean in a casual meditation. And I don't mean in a casual sense. Joyce was an initiated member of sense. Joyce was an initiated member of sense. Joyce was an initiated member of Sims, the student international Sims, the student international Sims, the student international meditation society. The group practiced meditation society. The group practiced meditation society. The group practiced transcendental meditation. They gathered transcendental meditation. They gathered transcendental meditation. They gathered for group meditations weekly. And Joyce for group meditations weekly. And Joyce for group meditations weekly. And Joyce had even traveled to Spokane for a had even traveled to Spokane for a had even traveled to Spokane for a week-long course on meditation a month week-long course on meditation a month week-long course on meditation a month before she vanished. Joyce was socially before she vanished. Joyce was socially before she vanished. Joyce was socially linked to at least three other people linked to at least three other people linked to at least three other people from Sims. This married couple named from Sims. This married couple named from Sims. This married couple named Mike and Celeste Lindberg and another Mike and Celeste Lindberg and another Mike and Celeste Lindberg and another guy named Mark Wadley. I'll just refer guy named Mark Wadley. I'll just refer guy named Mark Wadley. I'll just refer to them as the meditation group. Well, to them as the meditation group. Well, to them as the meditation group. Well, Mike and Celeste were the leaders of Mike and Celeste were the leaders of Mike and Celeste were the leaders of Sims, and Mark was their roommate, and Sims, and Mark was their roommate, and Sims, and Mark was their roommate, and they all lived at 400 Howard Street.

they all lived at 400 Howard Street. they all lived at 400 Howard Street. This matters because their house was This matters because their house was This matters because their house was just three or four houses away from just three or four houses away from just three or four houses away from where Joyce's car was found on Opal where Joyce's car was found on Opal where Joyce's car was found on Opal Street, and Joyce was planning to move Street, and Joyce was planning to move Street, and Joyce was planning to move in with them in the fall. The meditation in with them in the fall. The meditation in with them in the fall. The meditation group offered her a room that upcoming group offered her a room that upcoming group offered her a room that upcoming semester because Mike and Celeste were semester because Mike and Celeste were semester because Mike and Celeste were going to be going to Spain. Mark needed going to be going to Spain. Mark needed going to be going to Spain. Mark needed to fill their room to cover rent, and to fill their room to cover rent, and to fill their room to cover rent, and they all knew that Joyce wasn't happy they all knew that Joyce wasn't happy they all knew that Joyce wasn't happy living with Bruce. So, are we thinking living with Bruce. So, are we thinking living with Bruce. So, are we thinking that Joyce drove to their house on the that Joyce drove to their house on the that Joyce drove to their house on the night of the 22nd and that's just like night of the 22nd and that's just like night of the 22nd and that's just like the closest parking space she could the closest parking space she could the closest parking space she could find? Anything is a possibility, find? Anything is a possibility, find? Anything is a possibility, especially because try as they might, especially because try as they might, especially because try as they might, police were finding zero connection police were finding zero connection police were finding zero connection between Joyce and the frat house that between Joyce and the frat house that between Joyce and the frat house that her car was parked closest to. So, if her car was parked closest to. So, if her car was parked closest to. So, if she is the one who drove her car there she is the one who drove her car there she is the one who drove her car there and it wasn't just randomly dumped by and it wasn't just randomly dumped by and it wasn't just randomly dumped by somebody, it would stand to reason that somebody, it would stand to reason that somebody, it would stand to reason that she may have been there to visit someone she may have been there to visit someone she may have been there to visit someone in her meditation group. Wait, did they in her meditation group. Wait, did they in her meditation group. Wait, did they not notice her car parked there the not notice her car parked there the not notice her car parked there the whole time she was MIA? whole time she was MIA? whole time she was MIA? >> No, they did. Or at least one of them >> No, they did. Or at least one of them >> No, they did. Or at least one of them did. When police went knocking at the did. When police went knocking at the did. When police went knocking at the door of 400 Howard in the very early door of 400 Howard in the very early door of 400 Howard in the very early days of the missing person days of the missing person days of the missing person investigation, it was the single guy, investigation, it was the single guy, investigation, it was the single guy, Mark, who answered. And he says that he Mark, who answered. And he says that he Mark, who answered. And he says that he knows Joyce and he had noticed her car knows Joyce and he had noticed her car knows Joyce and he had noticed her car parked down the road, but that he didn't parked down the road, but that he didn't parked down the road, but that he didn't know where she was, nor did he even know where she was, nor did he even know where she was, nor did he even realize that she was missing. According realize that she was missing. According realize that she was missing. According to what the officer wrote, he said he'd to what the officer wrote, he said he'd to what the officer wrote, he said he'd only just met Joyce the month before.

only just met Joyce the month before. only just met Joyce the month before. They had never dated or anything, he They had never dated or anything, he They had never dated or anything, he said. And he tells them about the whole said. And he tells them about the whole said. And he tells them about the whole new roommate situation, but very much new roommate situation, but very much new roommate situation, but very much like keeps his connection to Joyce like like keeps his connection to Joyce like like keeps his connection to Joyce like at an arms length. But the officer notes at an arms length. But the officer notes at an arms length. But the officer notes that his demeanor is just like off. I that his demeanor is just like off. I that his demeanor is just like off. I mean, in the case file, the officer mean, in the case file, the officer mean, in the case file, the officer writes that Mark seems nervous. And then writes that Mark seems nervous. And then writes that Mark seems nervous. And then something weird happens like mid something weird happens like mid something weird happens like mid conversation. The officer notices that conversation. The officer notices that conversation. The officer notices that the other guy who lives at the house, the other guy who lives at the house, the other guy who lives at the house, Mike, he drives by, but instead of Mike, he drives by, but instead of Mike, he drives by, but instead of stopping, he like keeps driving. And stopping, he like keeps driving. And stopping, he like keeps driving. And when the officer left, they like keep when the officer left, they like keep when the officer left, they like keep surveilling the house just to see what surveilling the house just to see what surveilling the house just to see what happens. happens. happens. >> And they noticed that Mike only goes to >> And they noticed that Mike only goes to >> And they noticed that Mike only goes to the house after they left. the house after they left. the house after they left. >> Uh, that's sus. Don't love it. >> Uh, that's sus. Don't love it. >> Uh, that's sus. Don't love it. >> So, the detective made it a point to >> So, the detective made it a point to >> So, the detective made it a point to follow up with Mike. follow up with Mike. follow up with Mike. >> Yeah. Now, it's later in August 1971 by >> Yeah. Now, it's later in August 1971 by >> Yeah. Now, it's later in August 1971 by the time they get with Mike Lindberg. the time they get with Mike Lindberg. the time they get with Mike Lindberg. So, Joyce is still just missing at this So, Joyce is still just missing at this So, Joyce is still just missing at this point. We're a month out. And he says he point. We're a month out. And he says he point. We're a month out. And he says he knows Joyce for longer than Mark, about knows Joyce for longer than Mark, about knows Joyce for longer than Mark, about a year, ever since she was initiated a year, ever since she was initiated a year, ever since she was initiated into Sims. And all he knew about her into Sims. And all he knew about her into Sims. And all he knew about her outside of the group was that she wasn't outside of the group was that she wasn't outside of the group was that she wasn't getting along with her roommate Bruce.

getting along with her roommate Bruce. getting along with her roommate Bruce. But he didn't really know why. He But he didn't really know why. He But he didn't really know why. He suspected that it was because Bruce was suspected that it was because Bruce was suspected that it was because Bruce was quote a little weird and quote involved quote a little weird and quote involved quote a little weird and quote involved in drugs. and he says drug use is in drugs. and he says drug use is in drugs. and he says drug use is forbidden for members of Sims. He said forbidden for members of Sims. He said forbidden for members of Sims. He said the last time he saw Joyce was July 17th the last time he saw Joyce was July 17th the last time he saw Joyce was July 17th when she came over and joined him, his when she came over and joined him, his when she came over and joined him, his wife Celeste, and Mark for dinner. And wife Celeste, and Mark for dinner. And wife Celeste, and Mark for dinner. And then after dinner, all four of them then after dinner, all four of them then after dinner, all four of them drove out to Eden Valley, which is this drove out to Eden Valley, which is this drove out to Eden Valley, which is this like scenic area out near the river. like scenic area out near the river. like scenic area out near the river. Now, here he drops a little tidbit. Mike Now, here he drops a little tidbit. Mike Now, here he drops a little tidbit. Mike tells police that he thinks Mark is tells police that he thinks Mark is tells police that he thinks Mark is attracted to Joyce, but he doesn't think attracted to Joyce, but he doesn't think attracted to Joyce, but he doesn't think that Joyce is interested in Mark. Did he that Joyce is interested in Mark. Did he that Joyce is interested in Mark. Did he just offer up that info about Mark? just offer up that info about Mark? just offer up that info about Mark? >> Unclear. >> Unclear. >> Unclear. >> Like, okay. >> Like, okay. >> Like, okay. >> Unclear. Because the case file I'm >> Unclear. Because the case file I'm >> Unclear. Because the case file I'm working with, they're all from 1971, working with, they're all from 1971, working with, they're all from 1971, many of which are like handwritten. But many of which are like handwritten. But many of which are like handwritten. But if I read between the lines, I get the if I read between the lines, I get the if I read between the lines, I get the sense that they like asked him point sense that they like asked him point sense that they like asked him point blank about Mark's interest in Joyce. blank about Mark's interest in Joyce. blank about Mark's interest in Joyce. Because there is one line in the files Because there is one line in the files Because there is one line in the files that says Mark asked Joyce out on a that says Mark asked Joyce out on a that says Mark asked Joyce out on a date, which Mark denied. Now, Mike also date, which Mark denied. Now, Mike also date, which Mark denied. Now, Mike also tells police that unlike Mark, he had tells police that unlike Mark, he had tells police that unlike Mark, he had not even noticed that Joyce's car was not even noticed that Joyce's car was not even noticed that Joyce's car was parked 100 ft from his front door for parked 100 ft from his front door for parked 100 ft from his front door for over a week. And both Mike and Mark over a week. And both Mike and Mark over a week. And both Mike and Mark agreed to take polygraphs. And I find agreed to take polygraphs. And I find agreed to take polygraphs. And I find the results very interesting. After the results very interesting. After the results very interesting. After Mike's test, the officer concludes that Mike's test, the officer concludes that Mike's test, the officer concludes that while he doesn't think Mike was directly while he doesn't think Mike was directly while he doesn't think Mike was directly involved, he did seem quite nervous involved, he did seem quite nervous involved, he did seem quite nervous throughout the test. and he notes that throughout the test. and he notes that throughout the test. and he notes that he showed concern in answering one he showed concern in answering one he showed concern in answering one question in particular.

question in particular. question in particular. Do you think Mark is involved in Joyce's Do you think Mark is involved in Joyce's Do you think Mark is involved in Joyce's disappearance? Now, when they pressed disappearance? Now, when they pressed disappearance? Now, when they pressed Mike about this after the polygraph, he Mike about this after the polygraph, he Mike about this after the polygraph, he said, quote, I don't know why it would said, quote, I don't know why it would said, quote, I don't know why it would show that, but maybe I am holding back show that, but maybe I am holding back show that, but maybe I am holding back because I feel a certain responsibility because I feel a certain responsibility because I feel a certain responsibility towards Joyce. Responsibility for what? towards Joyce. Responsibility for what? towards Joyce. Responsibility for what? >> I don't know. But the conclusions from >> I don't know. But the conclusions from >> I don't know. But the conclusions from Mark's polygraph were a bit different. Mark's polygraph were a bit different. Mark's polygraph were a bit different. They said that he seemed calm, but that They said that he seemed calm, but that They said that he seemed calm, but that there was a couple of spots where they there was a couple of spots where they there was a couple of spots where they noted a heart rate spike. Once when he noted a heart rate spike. Once when he noted a heart rate spike. Once when he was asked if he knew if Joyce was still was asked if he knew if Joyce was still was asked if he knew if Joyce was still alive, and then another time when they alive, and then another time when they alive, and then another time when they asked Mark if he had been inside Joyce's asked Mark if he had been inside Joyce's asked Mark if he had been inside Joyce's car. But the report notes when they car. But the report notes when they car. But the report notes when they asked if he had been in her car, they asked if he had been in her car, they asked if he had been in her car, they asked if he'd been in there July 23rd. asked if he'd been in there July 23rd. asked if he'd been in there July 23rd. and there was not a notable change. So, and there was not a notable change. So, and there was not a notable change. So, the officer summarizes that based on the officer summarizes that based on the officer summarizes that based on this test, Mark can't be eliminated as a this test, Mark can't be eliminated as a this test, Mark can't be eliminated as a suspect.

suspect. suspect. >> I feel like he squeaked by there with >> I feel like he squeaked by there with >> I feel like he squeaked by there with that were you in her car question cuz that were you in her car question cuz that were you in her car question cuz like they ask him about the 23rd, not like they ask him about the 23rd, not like they ask him about the 23rd, not the 26. the 26. the 26. >> I know, but I I don't think that was an >> I know, but I I don't think that was an >> I know, but I I don't think that was an oversight. I think that that was based oversight. I think that that was based oversight. I think that that was based on what information they had at the on what information they had at the on what information they had at the time. So, when officers first went time. So, when officers first went time. So, when officers first went looking for Joyce, like the day that looking for Joyce, like the day that looking for Joyce, like the day that she's officially reported missing, she's officially reported missing, she's officially reported missing, Bruce, remember, wasn't home for them to Bruce, remember, wasn't home for them to Bruce, remember, wasn't home for them to talk to, but they actually did catch a talk to, but they actually did catch a talk to, but they actually did catch a neighbor across the street. This guy neighbor across the street. This guy neighbor across the street. This guy named Dave Parks. Well, he told officers named Dave Parks. Well, he told officers named Dave Parks. Well, he told officers that he was friends with Joyce, knew that he was friends with Joyce, knew that he was friends with Joyce, knew her, and he last saw her leaving her her, and he last saw her leaving her her, and he last saw her leaving her apartment on July 23rd at 10:00 a.m. apartment on July 23rd at 10:00 a.m. apartment on July 23rd at 10:00 a.m. with two long-haired guys that he didn't with two long-haired guys that he didn't with two long-haired guys that he didn't recognize, and they all got into a car. recognize, and they all got into a car. recognize, and they all got into a car. Now, once this was a homicide Now, once this was a homicide Now, once this was a homicide investigation, police became a little investigation, police became a little investigation, police became a little less confident in that sighting, but less confident in that sighting, but less confident in that sighting, but it's still worth noting. And it is it's still worth noting. And it is it's still worth noting. And it is clearly what they were driving home like clearly what they were driving home like clearly what they were driving home like here in this polygraph with Mark. here in this polygraph with Mark. here in this polygraph with Mark. >> And did Mike and Mark have long hair? >> And did Mike and Mark have long hair? >> And did Mike and Mark have long hair? >> Dude, somehow >> Dude, somehow >> Dude, somehow nobody notes that in the case file, and nobody notes that in the case file, and nobody notes that in the case file, and I haven't run across any pictures of I haven't run across any pictures of I haven't run across any pictures of these guys from that era, but like for these guys from that era, but like for these guys from that era, but like for the record, like I don't think that the record, like I don't think that the record, like I don't think that sighting could be right. Right. Like sighting could be right. Right. Like sighting could be right. Right. Like police seem to think that the neighbor police seem to think that the neighbor police seem to think that the neighbor must have been mistaken or gotten the must have been mistaken or gotten the must have been mistaken or gotten the date wrong because again go back to like date wrong because again go back to like date wrong because again go back to like the timeline of this. This carpet is the timeline of this. This carpet is the timeline of this. This carpet is discovered missing before 8:30 a.m. on discovered missing before 8:30 a.m. on discovered missing before 8:30 a.m. on the 23rd. So like it had to have gone the 23rd. So like it had to have gone the 23rd. So like it had to have gone missing overnight on the 22nd. If Joyce missing overnight on the 22nd. If Joyce missing overnight on the 22nd. If Joyce is wrapped inside the carpet like she's is wrapped inside the carpet like she's is wrapped inside the carpet like she's already dead by then.

already dead by then. already dead by then. >> And did they ever talk to Mike's wife >> And did they ever talk to Mike's wife >> And did they ever talk to Mike's wife Celeste? Celeste? Celeste? >> They did, but she didn't have a whole >> They did, but she didn't have a whole >> They did, but she didn't have a whole lot to add. She just mentioned that the lot to add. She just mentioned that the lot to add. She just mentioned that the last time she saw Joyce was that night last time she saw Joyce was that night last time she saw Joyce was that night that they all liked dinner. they drove that they all liked dinner. they drove that they all liked dinner. they drove to the Eden Valley. to the Eden Valley. to the Eden Valley. >> So, just kind of confirming all that. >> So, just kind of confirming all that. >> So, just kind of confirming all that. >> Yeah. And it's worth noting that >> Yeah. And it's worth noting that >> Yeah. And it's worth noting that throughout the case file, this night throughout the case file, this night throughout the case file, this night does get mentioned as like July 16th or does get mentioned as like July 16th or does get mentioned as like July 16th or 17th, depending on who you ask. I'm not 17th, depending on who you ask. I'm not 17th, depending on who you ask. I'm not sure that that matters, but she didn't sure that that matters, but she didn't sure that that matters, but she didn't really offer up anything new. But I really offer up anything new. But I really offer up anything new. But I actually found something new that's actually found something new that's actually found something new that's actually old hidden in the case file, actually old hidden in the case file, actually old hidden in the case file, and it's something written in Joyce's and it's something written in Joyce's and it's something written in Joyce's own words about Mark. I almost miss this piece because it is I almost miss this piece because it is written in Joyce's handwriting, which to written in Joyce's handwriting, which to written in Joyce's handwriting, which to be honest is like kind of hard to read. be honest is like kind of hard to read. be honest is like kind of hard to read. >> Girl after my own heart. >> Girl after my own heart. >> Girl after my own heart. >> I know. And it seems to be this letter >> I know. And it seems to be this letter >> I know. And it seems to be this letter that she was writing to her boyfriend that she was writing to her boyfriend that she was writing to her boyfriend David Arthur. The one that they found in David Arthur. The one that they found in David Arthur. The one that they found in her purse at Steven's Hall when they her purse at Steven's Hall when they her purse at Steven's Hall when they first discovered the carpet was missing. first discovered the carpet was missing. first discovered the carpet was missing. >> So, I'm going to have a voice actor read >> So, I'm going to have a voice actor read >> So, I'm going to have a voice actor read a portion of the letter. I had dinner a portion of the letter. I had dinner a portion of the letter. I had dinner with Celeste, Michael, and Mark the with Celeste, Michael, and Mark the with Celeste, Michael, and Mark the other night. Afterward, we drove around other night. Afterward, we drove around other night. Afterward, we drove around until dark. Then we stopped in at a until dark. Then we stopped in at a until dark. Then we stopped in at a rumage sale in Paloo City and got ice rumage sale in Paloo City and got ice rumage sale in Paloo City and got ice cream cones. We had a very good time. I cream cones. We had a very good time. I cream cones. We had a very good time. I discovered that Mark once stayed at a discovered that Mark once stayed at a discovered that Mark once stayed at a mental institution for trying to mental institution for trying to mental institution for trying to strangle people. He also, I suspect, was strangle people. He also, I suspect, was strangle people. He also, I suspect, was the informer to a narc for this big drug the informer to a narc for this big drug the informer to a narc for this big drug bus 2 years ago.

bus 2 years ago. bus 2 years ago. >> Okay, just a >> Okay, just a >> Okay, just a casual mention of strangulation in a casual mention of strangulation in a casual mention of strangulation in a letter to your boyfriend. There is no letter to your boyfriend. There is no letter to your boyfriend. There is no other mention of these allegations about other mention of these allegations about other mention of these allegations about Mark anywhere in the case file. No Mark anywhere in the case file. No Mark anywhere in the case file. No mention of this when they talk to Mark mention of this when they talk to Mark mention of this when they talk to Mark or anyone in the meditation group. And I or anyone in the meditation group. And I or anyone in the meditation group. And I don't see them trying to really nail don't see them trying to really nail don't see them trying to really nail down his history like ever. From what we down his history like ever. From what we down his history like ever. From what we can tell, no past or present can tell, no past or present can tell, no past or present investigator has even looked into this. investigator has even looked into this. investigator has even looked into this. And yes, the history is the most And yes, the history is the most And yes, the history is the most interesting allegation. But the one interesting allegation. But the one interesting allegation. But the one about him being a CI or a narc is just about him being a CI or a narc is just about him being a CI or a narc is just as big to me. Because if Mark was as big to me. Because if Mark was as big to me. Because if Mark was involved in some way, as the polygraph involved in some way, as the polygraph involved in some way, as the polygraph would suggest, maybe someone was more would suggest, maybe someone was more would suggest, maybe someone was more inclined to look the other way and keep inclined to look the other way and keep inclined to look the other way and keep Mark out of trouble. Mark out of trouble. Mark out of trouble. >> There are a couple of areas in the file >> There are a couple of areas in the file >> There are a couple of areas in the file where this idea comes up that maybe where this idea comes up that maybe where this idea comes up that maybe Joyce knew something before she died, Joyce knew something before she died, Joyce knew something before she died, something that made her a liability. So, something that made her a liability. So, something that made her a liability. So, this woman named Kay Garrison is this woman named Kay Garrison is this woman named Kay Garrison is interviewed by police in September of interviewed by police in September of interviewed by police in September of 71. Again, Joyce is still just a missing 71. Again, Joyce is still just a missing 71. Again, Joyce is still just a missing person by this point.

person by this point. person by this point. >> Now, Kay used to live with Joyce, but it >> Now, Kay used to live with Joyce, but it >> Now, Kay used to live with Joyce, but it sounds like Joyce moved dorms and then sounds like Joyce moved dorms and then sounds like Joyce moved dorms and then they kind of just like drifted apart a they kind of just like drifted apart a they kind of just like drifted apart a little bit like, but they would run into little bit like, but they would run into little bit like, but they would run into each other a couple of times over the each other a couple of times over the each other a couple of times over the summer of 1971 while they were doing summer of 1971 while they were doing summer of 1971 while they were doing summer classes. And one of the last summer classes. And one of the last summer classes. And one of the last times she saw Joyce was maybe like a times she saw Joyce was maybe like a times she saw Joyce was maybe like a week or less before she disappeared. And week or less before she disappeared. And week or less before she disappeared. And she said Joyce looked like something was she said Joyce looked like something was she said Joyce looked like something was wrong. Like she lost a bunch of weight. wrong. Like she lost a bunch of weight. wrong. Like she lost a bunch of weight. She looked pale, thin, and she was She looked pale, thin, and she was She looked pale, thin, and she was asking Kay to like come up and see her asking Kay to like come up and see her asking Kay to like come up and see her sometime so they could talk. She had sometime so they could talk. She had sometime so they could talk. She had something to tell her. She just couldn't something to tell her. She just couldn't something to tell her. She just couldn't tell her then. Prime Dunkey Life. If you tell her then. Prime Dunkey Life. If you tell her then. Prime Dunkey Life. If you have a secret for the love of God, have a secret for the love of God, have a secret for the love of God, >> tell someone. Here is exactly what case >> tell someone. Here is exactly what case >> tell someone. Here is exactly what case says in her transcript, and she's says in her transcript, and she's says in her transcript, and she's explaining to the detectives what it is explaining to the detectives what it is explaining to the detectives what it is that Joyce was saying. Oh, I've been that Joyce was saying. Oh, I've been that Joyce was saying. Oh, I've been pretty busy with the other projects. And pretty busy with the other projects. And pretty busy with the other projects. And I asked her, "Well, where's Dave?" And I asked her, "Well, where's Dave?" And I asked her, "Well, where's Dave?" And she said, "He's at the library." I said, she said, "He's at the library." I said, she said, "He's at the library." I said, "Is something the matter? Is something "Is something the matter? Is something "Is something the matter? Is something bugging you?" And she said, "Well, I bugging you?" And she said, "Well, I bugging you?" And she said, "Well, I just don't know. I'm just so afraid that just don't know. I'm just so afraid that just don't know. I'm just so afraid that I'm going to tell people something that I'm going to tell people something that I'm going to tell people something that I shouldn't, especially when it's I shouldn't, especially when it's I shouldn't, especially when it's someone else's coffin I'm sealing." And someone else's coffin I'm sealing." And someone else's coffin I'm sealing." And I said, "Is some class that's bugging I said, "Is some class that's bugging I said, "Is some class that's bugging you?" And she said, "It was chemistry."

you?" And she said, "It was chemistry." you?" And she said, "It was chemistry." I said, "Well, don't you understand it?" I said, "Well, don't you understand it?" I said, "Well, don't you understand it?" She said, "Well, I understand it too She said, "Well, I understand it too She said, "Well, I understand it too well. I understand it so well that I well. I understand it so well that I well. I understand it so well that I think that I'm going to hurt somebody." think that I'm going to hurt somebody." think that I'm going to hurt somebody." I said, "Why do you say that?" Well, and I said, "Why do you say that?" Well, and I said, "Why do you say that?" Well, and this is what really bugs me. I can't this is what really bugs me. I can't this is what really bugs me. I can't really define in my mind whether she really define in my mind whether she really define in my mind whether she meant hurting someone in the sense of meant hurting someone in the sense of meant hurting someone in the sense of knowing this information and telling knowing this information and telling knowing this information and telling like her friends that she was starting like her friends that she was starting like her friends that she was starting to associate with that she didn't want to associate with that she didn't want to associate with that she didn't want to associate with them anymore. and that to associate with them anymore. and that to associate with them anymore. and that she didn't think that drugs were a good she didn't think that drugs were a good she didn't think that drugs were a good thing or she was going to hurt Mike. thing or she was going to hurt Mike. thing or she was going to hurt Mike. Kay says it wasn't super clear what Kay says it wasn't super clear what Kay says it wasn't super clear what Joyce meant, but she had to get going. Joyce meant, but she had to get going. Joyce meant, but she had to get going. So, she kind of just like told her, you So, she kind of just like told her, you So, she kind of just like told her, you know, okay, keep your head up. Things know, okay, keep your head up. Things know, okay, keep your head up. Things are going to like be better. And that are going to like be better. And that are going to like be better. And that was the last they ever spoke. I don't was the last they ever spoke. I don't was the last they ever spoke. I don't know who Mike is either because is it know who Mike is either because is it know who Mike is either because is it Mike, the leader of the Sims group, Mike Mike, the leader of the Sims group, Mike Mike, the leader of the Sims group, Mike Lindberg? Is it Mike Finch? I mean, she Lindberg? Is it Mike Finch? I mean, she Lindberg? Is it Mike Finch? I mean, she mentions Mike Finch like his full name mentions Mike Finch like his full name mentions Mike Finch like his full name later in the letter and like I don't later in the letter and like I don't later in the letter and like I don't think it's Mike Finch, but like think it's Mike Finch, but like think it's Mike Finch, but like >> I don't know, maybe it's another Mike >> I don't know, maybe it's another Mike >> I don't know, maybe it's another Mike altogether.

altogether. altogether. >> If it's Michael Lindberg who's connected >> If it's Michael Lindberg who's connected >> If it's Michael Lindberg who's connected to Mark, I think it is real interesting to Mark, I think it is real interesting to Mark, I think it is real interesting because when they're talking to police, because when they're talking to police, because when they're talking to police, they said that the Sims movement was they said that the Sims movement was they said that the Sims movement was very anti-drug. But everyone else is very anti-drug. But everyone else is very anti-drug. But everyone else is talking like this meditation group was talking like this meditation group was talking like this meditation group was caught up in the drug world. caught up in the drug world. caught up in the drug world. >> And I mean, you're not going to tell >> And I mean, you're not going to tell >> And I mean, you're not going to tell cops in the 70s that you're tied up in cops in the 70s that you're tied up in cops in the 70s that you're tied up in the drug world. True. But according to the drug world. True. But according to the drug world. True. But according to our research into Mike, he himself had a our research into Mike, he himself had a our research into Mike, he himself had a drug conviction from 1969. drug conviction from 1969. drug conviction from 1969. I don't have any more details on that I don't have any more details on that I don't have any more details on that drug bust that happened 2 years prior. drug bust that happened 2 years prior. drug bust that happened 2 years prior. And I don't see anyone questioning him And I don't see anyone questioning him And I don't see anyone questioning him about that either. I also wonder like is about that either. I also wonder like is about that either. I also wonder like is drugs what all this like chemistry stuff drugs what all this like chemistry stuff drugs what all this like chemistry stuff is about? Like she knows something that is about? Like she knows something that is about? Like she knows something that was going to happen like that's going to was going to happen like that's going to was going to happen like that's going to hurt people. Like what' she say like hurt people. Like what' she say like hurt people. Like what' she say like seal someone's coffin? What does that seal someone's coffin? What does that seal someone's coffin? What does that mean? When this friend Kay was asked mean? When this friend Kay was asked mean? When this friend Kay was asked what she thinks happened, she said this. what she thinks happened, she said this. what she thinks happened, she said this. Well, I think perhaps she was really Well, I think perhaps she was really Well, I think perhaps she was really hassled about like confidences and she hassled about like confidences and she hassled about like confidences and she was associating with transcendental was associating with transcendental was associating with transcendental meditation group and they did have a meditation group and they did have a meditation group and they did have a tendency to deal in drugs. So maybe tendency to deal in drugs. So maybe tendency to deal in drugs. So maybe someone told her something about drugs someone told her something about drugs someone told her something about drugs or she found out about something and or she found out about something and or she found out about something and then someone got scared about it, you then someone got scared about it, you then someone got scared about it, you know, and tried to hurt her in some way.

know, and tried to hurt her in some way. know, and tried to hurt her in some way. But Mike, she was also hassled about But Mike, she was also hassled about But Mike, she was also hassled about this chemistry thing. And I don't know this chemistry thing. And I don't know this chemistry thing. And I don't know how this Mike Finch fits in other than how this Mike Finch fits in other than how this Mike Finch fits in other than the fact that he was a teacher in chem the fact that he was a teacher in chem the fact that he was a teacher in chem and mentioned in something with her and mentioned in something with her and mentioned in something with her chemistry and then having the chemistry chemistry and then having the chemistry chemistry and then having the chemistry knowledge. And then this Mike, now maybe knowledge. And then this Mike, now maybe knowledge. And then this Mike, now maybe this Mike had something to do with this Mike had something to do with this Mike had something to do with drugs, you know, and he ties in somehow drugs, you know, and he ties in somehow drugs, you know, and he ties in somehow with this group or he wanted to tie her with this group or he wanted to tie her with this group or he wanted to tie her down and she didn't want to be tied down and she didn't want to be tied down and she didn't want to be tied down, so she went to her friends who down, so she went to her friends who down, so she went to her friends who happened to be on drugs and they tried happened to be on drugs and they tried happened to be on drugs and they tried to help her out somehow. I mean, there to help her out somehow. I mean, there to help her out somehow. I mean, there are so many little possibilities because are so many little possibilities because are so many little possibilities because she knew so many different people and she knew so many different people and she knew so many different people and she was so open and trusting to these she was so open and trusting to these she was so open and trusting to these different types of people. And I warned different types of people. And I warned different types of people. And I warned that it was dangerous to be that way. that it was dangerous to be that way. that it was dangerous to be that way. I'm so confused. I'm so confused. I'm so confused. >> Me, too. Like, I need clarifying >> Me, too. Like, I need clarifying >> Me, too. Like, I need clarifying questions, detectives. Follow-ups, past questions, detectives. Follow-ups, past questions, detectives. Follow-ups, past and present. Just some follow-ups. and present. Just some follow-ups. and present. Just some follow-ups. >> I believe that Mike Lindberg died by >> I believe that Mike Lindberg died by >> I believe that Mike Lindberg died by suicide in 1988. That's according to a suicide in 1988. That's according to a suicide in 1988. That's according to a death certificate that we found for death certificate that we found for death certificate that we found for someone with his name, middle name, and someone with his name, middle name, and someone with his name, middle name, and date of birth. I know that Mark is still date of birth. I know that Mark is still date of birth. I know that Mark is still alive. And though we didn't get him on alive. And though we didn't get him on alive. And though we didn't get him on the phone, we did reach a woman who the phone, we did reach a woman who the phone, we did reach a woman who answered a phone number that is listed answered a phone number that is listed answered a phone number that is listed for him at a business in Hawaii. Okay?

for him at a business in Hawaii. Okay? for him at a business in Hawaii. Okay? >> And she told us that she would ask him >> And she told us that she would ask him >> And she told us that she would ask him to call us and she agreed to forward him to call us and she agreed to forward him to call us and she agreed to forward him an email from us, but we have not heard an email from us, but we have not heard an email from us, but we have not heard back from him. And by the way, speaking back from him. And by the way, speaking back from him. And by the way, speaking of Mark, if you were to Google his name, of Mark, if you were to Google his name, of Mark, if you were to Google his name, a WSU sexual misconduct thing, it's like a WSU sexual misconduct thing, it's like a WSU sexual misconduct thing, it's like the first thing on Google. the first thing on Google. the first thing on Google. >> Oh, it turns out that he had the same >> Oh, it turns out that he had the same >> Oh, it turns out that he had the same exact name as his dad. And this exact name as his dad. And this exact name as his dad. And this particular incident was about his dad, particular incident was about his dad, particular incident was about his dad, not our mark. But it says that the not our mark. But it says that the not our mark. But it says that the complaint was filed against his dad for complaint was filed against his dad for complaint was filed against his dad for sexual misconduct while he was a sexual misconduct while he was a sexual misconduct while he was a professor at WSU in 2003. The incident professor at WSU in 2003. The incident professor at WSU in 2003. The incident is listed as resolved and his dad has is listed as resolved and his dad has is listed as resolved and his dad has like long since passed. I definitely like long since passed. I definitely like long since passed. I definitely have more questions about Mark Wadlay. have more questions about Mark Wadlay. have more questions about Mark Wadlay. So if anyone listening knows more, wants So if anyone listening knows more, wants So if anyone listening knows more, wants to reach out, please do. tipsuck.com or Mark if you're listening. We would or Mark if you're listening. We would still love to talk to you, still love to talk to you, still love to talk to you, but there is still yet another person but there is still yet another person but there is still yet another person that I want to talk to. The reason Joyce that I want to talk to. The reason Joyce that I want to talk to. The reason Joyce was looking to move in the first place was looking to move in the first place was looking to move in the first place was because of the person everyone was because of the person everyone was because of the person everyone seemed to agree she was actually seemed to agree she was actually seemed to agree she was actually avoiding that summer, her roommate, avoiding that summer, her roommate, avoiding that summer, her roommate, Bruce Beerbomb.

Bruce Beerbomb. Bruce Beerbomb. >> Finally, the roommate Bruce theory. I >> Finally, the roommate Bruce theory. I >> Finally, the roommate Bruce theory. I was waiting for this. I knew you were. was waiting for this. I knew you were. was waiting for this. I knew you were. Now, initially, Bruce is treated like Now, initially, Bruce is treated like Now, initially, Bruce is treated like just a witness. I mean, after Joyce's just a witness. I mean, after Joyce's just a witness. I mean, after Joyce's dad reports her missing, an officer dad reports her missing, an officer dad reports her missing, an officer tracks Bruce down at work. He agrees to tracks Bruce down at work. He agrees to tracks Bruce down at work. He agrees to let police search their apartment, even let police search their apartment, even let police search their apartment, even helps like check to see if her helps like check to see if her helps like check to see if her belongings are there, which he says like belongings are there, which he says like belongings are there, which he says like they all seem to be accounted for. they all seem to be accounted for. they all seem to be accounted for. Which, by the way, I've been like Which, by the way, I've been like Which, by the way, I've been like holding out one little detail on you. holding out one little detail on you. holding out one little detail on you. One of the things that they found in her One of the things that they found in her One of the things that they found in her apartment was her car keys. apartment was her car keys. apartment was her car keys. Wait, her car keys were inside the Wait, her car keys were inside the Wait, her car keys were inside the apartment? apartment? apartment? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. The hangup is nobody seems to know if The hangup is nobody seems to know if The hangup is nobody seems to know if those were like the primary set of keys those were like the primary set of keys those were like the primary set of keys like which would be so incriminating like which would be so incriminating like which would be so incriminating >> she uses every single day >> she uses every single day >> she uses every single day >> if they were just an extra set that >> if they were just an extra set that >> if they were just an extra set that Joyce had to her car which like I've got Joyce had to her car which like I've got Joyce had to her car which like I've got one of those. one of those. one of those. >> So have fun spiraling on that for the >> So have fun spiraling on that for the >> So have fun spiraling on that for the rest of the week. rest of the week. rest of the week. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But back at the apartment, Baruse tells >> But back at the apartment, Baruse tells >> But back at the apartment, Baruse tells police that he and Joyce are just police that he and Joyce are just police that he and Joyce are just friends, nothing more. And that the last friends, nothing more. And that the last friends, nothing more. And that the last time he saw Joyce was early in the time he saw Joyce was early in the time he saw Joyce was early in the morning of July 23rd when he left for morning of July 23rd when he left for morning of July 23rd when he left for work. Wait, so he's saying she's alive work. Wait, so he's saying she's alive work. Wait, so he's saying she's alive and well on Friday morning.

and well on Friday morning. and well on Friday morning. >> Well, he's saying that day one, before >> Well, he's saying that day one, before >> Well, he's saying that day one, before many details are known, the story many details are known, the story many details are known, the story conveniently changes later. Stay tuned. conveniently changes later. Stay tuned. conveniently changes later. Stay tuned. But in this first chat, he lays out his But in this first chat, he lays out his But in this first chat, he lays out his schedule. So, he works for the campus schedule. So, he works for the campus schedule. So, he works for the campus roads and grounds department. So, that roads and grounds department. So, that roads and grounds department. So, that summer, he would typically leave for summer, he would typically leave for summer, he would typically leave for work before like 700 a.m. He says that work before like 700 a.m. He says that work before like 700 a.m. He says that the morning of July 23rd, Joyce was the morning of July 23rd, Joyce was the morning of July 23rd, Joyce was asleep on the couch when he left. And he asleep on the couch when he left. And he asleep on the couch when he left. And he says that when he got home from work says that when he got home from work says that when he got home from work that day, she wasn't there, but he knew that day, she wasn't there, but he knew that day, she wasn't there, but he knew that she had plans to go home for the that she had plans to go home for the that she had plans to go home for the weekend. So, he didn't really think weekend. So, he didn't really think weekend. So, he didn't really think anything of it. And when she didn't show anything of it. And when she didn't show anything of it. And when she didn't show back up after the weekend, he says that, back up after the weekend, he says that, back up after the weekend, he says that, you know, he assumed that she had you know, he assumed that she had you know, he assumed that she had extended her stay with her parents. Now, extended her stay with her parents. Now, extended her stay with her parents. Now, they don't really have much reason to they don't really have much reason to they don't really have much reason to think twice about this guy at the time. think twice about this guy at the time. think twice about this guy at the time. >> I mean, even though she's telling >> I mean, even though she's telling >> I mean, even though she's telling everyone she knows she doesn't want to everyone she knows she doesn't want to everyone she knows she doesn't want to sleep in the same house as him. sleep in the same house as him. sleep in the same house as him. >> I know. Like, the context clues feel >> I know. Like, the context clues feel >> I know. Like, the context clues feel like they are jumping off the page now. like they are jumping off the page now. like they are jumping off the page now. Back then, I don't know. I guess they Back then, I don't know. I guess they Back then, I don't know. I guess they like didn't see much of a motive. But like didn't see much of a motive. But like didn't see much of a motive. But while they were looking in other while they were looking in other while they were looking in other directions, Bruce was doing odd things, directions, Bruce was doing odd things, directions, Bruce was doing odd things, like sending this weird letter to like sending this weird letter to like sending this weird letter to Joyce's dad on August 11th, 1971. This Joyce's dad on August 11th, 1971. This Joyce's dad on August 11th, 1971. This is a few weeks into her disappearance.

is a few weeks into her disappearance. is a few weeks into her disappearance. Here's a voice actor reading a condensed Here's a voice actor reading a condensed Here's a voice actor reading a condensed version of this letter. version of this letter. version of this letter. >> Dear Mr. Leage, I really don't know >> Dear Mr. Leage, I really don't know >> Dear Mr. Leage, I really don't know where to start. Joyce and I had been where to start. Joyce and I had been where to start. Joyce and I had been friends for quite a while. She came and friends for quite a while. She came and friends for quite a while. She came and went as she pleased, as did I. I would went as she pleased, as did I. I would went as she pleased, as did I. I would go to work at 7:00, return at 5:00, make go to work at 7:00, return at 5:00, make go to work at 7:00, return at 5:00, make dinner, and then leave at 7:00 for band dinner, and then leave at 7:00 for band dinner, and then leave at 7:00 for band practice. Joyce went to classes practice. Joyce went to classes practice. Joyce went to classes somewhere around 8, so she was always somewhere around 8, so she was always somewhere around 8, so she was always asleep when I left. We ate dinner at the asleep when I left. We ate dinner at the asleep when I left. We ate dinner at the same time. In fact, that was about the same time. In fact, that was about the same time. In fact, that was about the only time we ever really talked. only time we ever really talked. only time we ever really talked. Usually, that time was only about an Usually, that time was only about an Usually, that time was only about an hour at the most. I'd help her with her hour at the most. I'd help her with her hour at the most. I'd help her with her chemistry, and sometimes we'd give each chemistry, and sometimes we'd give each chemistry, and sometimes we'd give each other a thumbnail sketch of what our other a thumbnail sketch of what our other a thumbnail sketch of what our plans were for the next few days, just plans were for the next few days, just plans were for the next few days, just so someone knew what was going on. The so someone knew what was going on. The so someone knew what was going on. The week before she disappeared, she seldom week before she disappeared, she seldom week before she disappeared, she seldom ate dinner, even here. She slept in ate dinner, even here. She slept in ate dinner, even here. She slept in Steven's Hall, had lunch in the Steven's Hall, had lunch in the Steven's Hall, had lunch in the apartment, then went somewhere for the apartment, then went somewhere for the apartment, then went somewhere for the afternoon, and she was usually going out afternoon, and she was usually going out afternoon, and she was usually going out to eat. With who, I never knew. In fact, to eat. With who, I never knew. In fact, to eat. With who, I never knew. In fact, that week we had the least amount of that week we had the least amount of that week we had the least amount of communication of all summer. I don't communication of all summer. I don't communication of all summer. I don't know where she could be. The last I saw know where she could be. The last I saw know where she could be. The last I saw her was at 6:00 on Thursday night when her was at 6:00 on Thursday night when her was at 6:00 on Thursday night when she went to her skydiving lesson. The she went to her skydiving lesson. The she went to her skydiving lesson. The last she was seen was at 11:30 on Friday last she was seen was at 11:30 on Friday last she was seen was at 11:30 on Friday morning. So, the last thing I knew was morning. So, the last thing I knew was morning. So, the last thing I knew was that she had planned to go to the Atomic that she had planned to go to the Atomic that she had planned to go to the Atomic Cup race in Pasco and that was it. I Cup race in Pasco and that was it. I Cup race in Pasco and that was it. I wish I knew more, but I don't. The wish I knew more, but I don't. The wish I knew more, but I don't. The investigator has probably filled you in investigator has probably filled you in investigator has probably filled you in on everything that he knows, which is on everything that he knows, which is on everything that he knows, which is everything I know. I've spent about 6

everything I know. I've spent about 6 everything I know. I've spent about 6 hours with him so far, and there is hours with him so far, and there is hours with him so far, and there is nothing more that I can think of. Every nothing more that I can think of. Every nothing more that I can think of. Every time I think of something, he chases it time I think of something, he chases it time I think of something, he chases it down. But so far, every try has come to down. But so far, every try has come to down. But so far, every try has come to a sickening dead end. I realize that you a sickening dead end. I realize that you a sickening dead end. I realize that you are probably pretty busy now, so I don't are probably pretty busy now, so I don't are probably pretty busy now, so I don't know when you will be able to pick up know when you will be able to pick up know when you will be able to pick up her possessions. I have packed up her possessions. I have packed up her possessions. I have packed up everything she had in the apartment, so everything she had in the apartment, so everything she had in the apartment, so whenever you want to pick it up, it whenever you want to pick it up, it whenever you want to pick it up, it shouldn't take too much time. I might shouldn't take too much time. I might shouldn't take too much time. I might add that while I did this, I looked for add that while I did this, I looked for add that while I did this, I looked for possible clues, but there wasn't a thing possible clues, but there wasn't a thing possible clues, but there wasn't a thing that could lead anywhere. I had hoped that could lead anywhere. I had hoped that could lead anywhere. I had hoped that there might have been, but there that there might have been, but there that there might have been, but there wasn't. If you could get here before wasn't. If you could get here before wasn't. If you could get here before Saturday, but after that, I will be Saturday, but after that, I will be Saturday, but after that, I will be gone. Her stuff is in the closet by the gone. Her stuff is in the closet by the gone. Her stuff is in the closet by the door. door. door. There is one other problem. She and I There is one other problem. She and I There is one other problem. She and I were going to split the cost of the were going to split the cost of the were going to split the cost of the apartment. I was going to pay for the apartment. I was going to pay for the apartment. I was going to pay for the first month, June, and she would pay for first month, June, and she would pay for first month, June, and she would pay for July, and the guy we were subleasasing July, and the guy we were subleasasing July, and the guy we were subleasasing from was going to pay for August. from was going to pay for August. from was going to pay for August. Well, I have paid for the phone for the Well, I have paid for the phone for the Well, I have paid for the phone for the two months, including a couple of her two months, including a couple of her two months, including a couple of her long-distant phone calls and the water long-distant phone calls and the water long-distant phone calls and the water and the rent. All of this has thrown me and the rent. All of this has thrown me and the rent. All of this has thrown me close to $90 in the hole from what I had close to $90 in the hole from what I had close to $90 in the hole from what I had planned to spend. Any of this that you planned to spend. Any of this that you planned to spend. Any of this that you could make up would be greatly could make up would be greatly could make up would be greatly appreciated because I am living on a bit appreciated because I am living on a bit appreciated because I am living on a bit of a tight schedule and so $90 is quite of a tight schedule and so $90 is quite of a tight schedule and so $90 is quite a large sum of money. I'm sorry I a large sum of money. I'm sorry I a large sum of money. I'm sorry I couldn't turn her up anywhere. I tried couldn't turn her up anywhere. I tried couldn't turn her up anywhere. I tried as much as I could, but there have been as much as I could, but there have been as much as I could, but there have been no breaks coming our way. I wish she no breaks coming our way. I wish she no breaks coming our way. I wish she would turn up somewhere. Sincerely, would turn up somewhere. Sincerely, would turn up somewhere. Sincerely, Bruce Beerbomb. P.S. You can have the Bruce Beerbomb. P.S. You can have the Bruce Beerbomb. P.S. You can have the land lady let you in. The check can be land lady let you in. The check can be land lady let you in. The check can be left on the table and I can pick it up

left on the table and I can pick it up left on the table and I can pick it up next fall. I really wish she would next fall. I really wish she would next fall. I really wish she would surprise me and walk in sometime soon. I surprise me and walk in sometime soon. I surprise me and walk in sometime soon. I think about half of the world would be think about half of the world would be think about half of the world would be overjoyed to see her. overjoyed to see her. overjoyed to see her. >> Hello, sir. I know your daughter's >> Hello, sir. I know your daughter's >> Hello, sir. I know your daughter's missing, but please bring me money. missing, but please bring me money. missing, but please bring me money. >> And also, can you just like come get her >> And also, can you just like come get her >> And also, can you just like come get her stuff? Well, and who's the half the stuff? Well, and who's the half the stuff? Well, and who's the half the world that wouldn't be overjoyed to see world that wouldn't be overjoyed to see world that wouldn't be overjoyed to see her? And plus, why is he like half her? And plus, why is he like half her? And plus, why is he like half talking about her in past tense even talking about her in past tense even talking about her in past tense even though she is just missing? though she is just missing? though she is just missing? >> And the plot thickens when one of >> And the plot thickens when one of >> And the plot thickens when one of Joyce's best friends, Jan, who I've Joyce's best friends, Jan, who I've Joyce's best friends, Jan, who I've talked about before, talked about before, talked about before, >> she goes to police and says like, "Hey, >> she goes to police and says like, "Hey, >> she goes to police and says like, "Hey, I went to go have a look around Joyce's I went to go have a look around Joyce's I went to go have a look around Joyce's apartment, and there actually are a few apartment, and there actually are a few apartment, and there actually are a few items of Joyce's that are missing." And items of Joyce's that are missing." And items of Joyce's that are missing." And one item that wasn't missing, but I one item that wasn't missing, but I one item that wasn't missing, but I found in the apartment shattered to found in the apartment shattered to found in the apartment shattered to pieces. Jan found Joyce's favorite blue vase Jan found Joyce's favorite blue vase broken on top of the refrigerator when broken on top of the refrigerator when broken on top of the refrigerator when she went to check out Joyce's apartment she went to check out Joyce's apartment she went to check out Joyce's apartment after she'd gone missing. We actually after she'd gone missing. We actually after she'd gone missing. We actually have a photo of Jan with the vase in the have a photo of Jan with the vase in the have a photo of Jan with the vase in the background before it was broken. And I background before it was broken. And I background before it was broken. And I guess when Jan asked Bruce about it, he guess when Jan asked Bruce about it, he guess when Jan asked Bruce about it, he said that it broke in an argument, but said that it broke in an argument, but said that it broke in an argument, but he didn't explain further.

he didn't explain further. he didn't explain further. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Did police not notice this when they >> Did police not notice this when they >> Did police not notice this when they searched the apartment? searched the apartment? searched the apartment? >> I guess not because like this is the >> I guess not because like this is the >> I guess not because like this is the first mention of it, and I don't see first mention of it, and I don't see first mention of it, and I don't see anywhere in the file where Bruce was anywhere in the file where Bruce was anywhere in the file where Bruce was asked about it. Again, I would love a asked about it. Again, I would love a asked about it. Again, I would love a follow-up question. Yeah. I mean, I see follow-up question. Yeah. I mean, I see follow-up question. Yeah. I mean, I see a follow-up interview with Bruce where a follow-up interview with Bruce where a follow-up interview with Bruce where he agrees to take a polygraph, and he he agrees to take a polygraph, and he he agrees to take a polygraph, and he later claims that he took one in 1972, later claims that he took one in 1972, later claims that he took one in 1972, but as far as anyone can tell, he never but as far as anyone can tell, he never but as far as anyone can tell, he never actually did. Either that or no record actually did. Either that or no record actually did. Either that or no record of it was kept. But in that documented of it was kept. But in that documented of it was kept. But in that documented follow-up interview, he says now that follow-up interview, he says now that follow-up interview, he says now that the last time he saw Joyce was Thursday the last time he saw Joyce was Thursday the last time he saw Joyce was Thursday evening before she went skydiving. Oh, evening before she went skydiving. Oh, evening before she went skydiving. Oh, but that's not what he said last time. but that's not what he said last time. but that's not what he said last time. The lieutenant was like, "Well, Cle The lieutenant was like, "Well, Cle The lieutenant was like, "Well, Cle clock clocked that. We got a follow-up clock clocked that. We got a follow-up clock clocked that. We got a follow-up here." Finally, here." Finally, here." Finally, >> he's like, "Well, last time we chatted, >> he's like, "Well, last time we chatted, >> he's like, "Well, last time we chatted, you told me she's asleep on your couch you told me she's asleep on your couch you told me she's asleep on your couch Friday morning when you leave for work." Friday morning when you leave for work." Friday morning when you leave for work." And he's like, "Oh, weird. I just I And he's like, "Oh, weird. I just I And he's like, "Oh, weird. I just I don't recall saying that." And I find don't recall saying that." And I find don't recall saying that." And I find this real interesting because remember this real interesting because remember this real interesting because remember the last two people who are confirmed to the last two people who are confirmed to the last two people who are confirmed to have seen Joyce, Hal, and Patty.

have seen Joyce, Hal, and Patty. have seen Joyce, Hal, and Patty. >> They went with her to the skydiving >> They went with her to the skydiving >> They went with her to the skydiving lesson on Thursday. They drop her back lesson on Thursday. They drop her back lesson on Thursday. They drop her back at her apartment Thursday. It's 10:00 at her apartment Thursday. It's 10:00 at her apartment Thursday. It's 10:00 p.m. It's late. p.m. It's late. p.m. It's late. >> Well, when Patty talked to police, she >> Well, when Patty talked to police, she >> Well, when Patty talked to police, she said something interesting. She told said something interesting. She told said something interesting. She told them that night Joyce was talking about them that night Joyce was talking about them that night Joyce was talking about how she thought police were going to how she thought police were going to how she thought police were going to figure out that she was staying in the figure out that she was staying in the figure out that she was staying in the dorm illegally. She said that she'd been dorm illegally. She said that she'd been dorm illegally. She said that she'd been working to move all of her personal working to move all of her personal working to move all of her personal items out of there, but she still had items out of there, but she still had items out of there, but she still had some to get. However, she agreed that some to get. However, she agreed that some to get. However, she agreed that she wasn't going to go back that night she wasn't going to go back that night she wasn't going to go back that night to get them because it was late and it to get them because it was late and it to get them because it was late and it was dark. She was going to go in the was dark. She was going to go in the was dark. She was going to go in the morning. morning. morning. So, Joyce is telling Patty at 1000 p.m. So, Joyce is telling Patty at 1000 p.m. So, Joyce is telling Patty at 1000 p.m. on Thursday that she's not going to on Thursday that she's not going to on Thursday that she's not going to Steven's Hall. Bruce in his early Steven's Hall. Bruce in his early Steven's Hall. Bruce in his early stories says he sees her there Friday stories says he sees her there Friday stories says he sees her there Friday morning. So, did Joyce actually go to morning. So, did Joyce actually go to morning. So, did Joyce actually go to Stevens Hall on her own Thursday night, Stevens Hall on her own Thursday night, Stevens Hall on her own Thursday night, or is it possible she never even made it or is it possible she never even made it or is it possible she never even made it there? Bruce eventually stops there? Bruce eventually stops there? Bruce eventually stops cooperating with the investigation and cooperating with the investigation and cooperating with the investigation and they never get anything from him or on they never get anything from him or on they never get anything from him or on him that furthered the case. And Bruce him that furthered the case. And Bruce him that furthered the case. And Bruce is still alive today. He graduated and is still alive today. He graduated and is still alive today. He graduated and he became a veterinarian and he now he became a veterinarian and he now he became a veterinarian and he now lives in Florida. Obviously, we had so lives in Florida. Obviously, we had so lives in Florida. Obviously, we had so many questions that we were hoping he many questions that we were hoping he many questions that we were hoping he would answer for us.

would answer for us. would answer for us. >> But when our reporter Emily got in touch >> But when our reporter Emily got in touch >> But when our reporter Emily got in touch with him, I thought the response was a with him, I thought the response was a with him, I thought the response was a little strange. Like, I would think this little strange. Like, I would think this little strange. Like, I would think this would be a significant time in his life. would be a significant time in his life. would be a significant time in his life. I mean, according to his letter, he I mean, according to his letter, he I mean, according to his letter, he wanted to do whatever he could to help. wanted to do whatever he could to help. wanted to do whatever he could to help. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> But when M asked to interview him, he >> But when M asked to interview him, he >> But when M asked to interview him, he said, "No, thank you." and abruptly hung said, "No, thank you." and abruptly hung said, "No, thank you." and abruptly hung up. Maybe he's tired of talking about up. Maybe he's tired of talking about up. Maybe he's tired of talking about it. Or more likely, maybe he's gotten it. Or more likely, maybe he's gotten it. Or more likely, maybe he's gotten wind of what we learned, which is that wind of what we learned, which is that wind of what we learned, which is that today Bruce Beerbomb has become the today Bruce Beerbomb has become the today Bruce Beerbomb has become the primary focus of the sheriff's office primary focus of the sheriff's office primary focus of the sheriff's office investigation into Joyce's murder. And investigation into Joyce's murder. And investigation into Joyce's murder. And that is for a few reasons. You see, that is for a few reasons. You see, that is for a few reasons. You see, Bruce has been married and divorced Bruce has been married and divorced Bruce has been married and divorced several times over the years, like five several times over the years, like five several times over the years, like five or six times since the 70s. And almost or six times since the 70s. And almost or six times since the 70s. And almost every time there's a divorce, one of his every time there's a divorce, one of his every time there's a divorce, one of his exes calls the sheriff's office about exes calls the sheriff's office about exes calls the sheriff's office about this case with some weird stories. this case with some weird stories. this case with some weird stories. >> Weird like what?

>> Weird like what? >> Weird like what? >> Well, one of them called to just like >> Well, one of them called to just like >> Well, one of them called to just like straight up say she thinks that he straight up say she thinks that he straight up say she thinks that he killed Joyce and then another mentioned killed Joyce and then another mentioned killed Joyce and then another mentioned this coat rack. So, remember how I said this coat rack. So, remember how I said this coat rack. So, remember how I said that Gian noticed that some stuff was that Gian noticed that some stuff was that Gian noticed that some stuff was missing? missing? missing? >> One of those things was a coat rack that >> One of those things was a coat rack that >> One of those things was a coat rack that was like it was short. It was like 3 ft was like it was short. It was like 3 ft was like it was short. It was like 3 ft high made of like blue metal with cow high made of like blue metal with cow high made of like blue metal with cow horns on the top. It was distinctive. It horns on the top. It was distinctive. It horns on the top. It was distinctive. It was Joyce's, but it was never found. And was Joyce's, but it was never found. And was Joyce's, but it was never found. And one of Bruce's exes told police she was one of Bruce's exes told police she was one of Bruce's exes told police she was pretty sure Bruce had it. But this never pretty sure Bruce had it. But this never pretty sure Bruce had it. But this never got confirmed. got confirmed. got confirmed. And to be fair, even if it were to get And to be fair, even if it were to get And to be fair, even if it were to get confirmed, stealing from your roommate confirmed, stealing from your roommate confirmed, stealing from your roommate is different than killing your roommate. is different than killing your roommate. is different than killing your roommate. Like that one might be nothing. But what Like that one might be nothing. But what Like that one might be nothing. But what feels like something is one of Bruce's feels like something is one of Bruce's feels like something is one of Bruce's family members who told police they family members who told police they family members who told police they found a poem that he wrote about a dead found a poem that he wrote about a dead found a poem that he wrote about a dead girl looking up at him from the river. girl looking up at him from the river. girl looking up at him from the river. Now, this is all very circumstantial Now, this is all very circumstantial Now, this is all very circumstantial stuff, but it was enough to spark a stuff, but it was enough to spark a stuff, but it was enough to spark a whole new modern investigation into whole new modern investigation into whole new modern investigation into Bruce. And since then, Whitman County Bruce. And since then, Whitman County Bruce. And since then, Whitman County Sheriff Brett Meyers has tried to Sheriff Brett Meyers has tried to Sheriff Brett Meyers has tried to interview him and even sent the FBI to interview him and even sent the FBI to interview him and even sent the FBI to his door in Florida to approach him his door in Florida to approach him his door in Florida to approach him about taking a polygraph, but he won't about taking a polygraph, but he won't about taking a polygraph, but he won't have anything to do with it.

have anything to do with it. have anything to do with it. >> I mean, what about any criminal history >> I mean, what about any criminal history >> I mean, what about any criminal history since Joyce's murder? Like, has he done since Joyce's murder? Like, has he done since Joyce's murder? Like, has he done anything? anything? anything? >> Yes, there are a few interesting things. >> Yes, there are a few interesting things. >> Yes, there are a few interesting things. Actually, when our research team Actually, when our research team Actually, when our research team searched his name, 35 different criminal searched his name, 35 different criminal searched his name, 35 different criminal filings popped up. Most of them seem to filings popped up. Most of them seem to filings popped up. Most of them seem to be traffic related, whatever. But one be traffic related, whatever. But one be traffic related, whatever. But one was listed as assault. Police reports was listed as assault. Police reports was listed as assault. Police reports revealed that it was a domestic battery revealed that it was a domestic battery revealed that it was a domestic battery charge against Bruce for a 2014 incident charge against Bruce for a 2014 incident charge against Bruce for a 2014 incident with his then brand new wife, who by the with his then brand new wife, who by the with his then brand new wife, who by the way was 40 years younger than him. And way was 40 years younger than him. And way was 40 years younger than him. And the victim says that she was hiding from the victim says that she was hiding from the victim says that she was hiding from Bruce at a friend's house. Reports say Bruce at a friend's house. Reports say Bruce at a friend's house. Reports say that he found where she was staying and that he found where she was staying and that he found where she was staying and took her purse, pinned her up against took her purse, pinned her up against took her purse, pinned her up against the wall. And Bruce later told officers the wall. And Bruce later told officers the wall. And Bruce later told officers that he was just trying to like get back that he was just trying to like get back that he was just trying to like get back a credit card that she stole from him. a credit card that she stole from him. a credit card that she stole from him. He denied ever touching her. But there He denied ever touching her. But there He denied ever touching her. But there were two other witnesses to the incident were two other witnesses to the incident were two other witnesses to the incident and he was charged with domestic and he was charged with domestic and he was charged with domestic battery. And there's something else in battery. And there's something else in battery. And there's something else in Bruce's record that's worth mentioning Bruce's record that's worth mentioning Bruce's record that's worth mentioning and this is something we really had to and this is something we really had to and this is something we really had to dig for because it didn't pop up in any dig for because it didn't pop up in any dig for because it didn't pop up in any public databases. But know how I say public databases. But know how I say public databases. But know how I say he's like a veterinarian.

he's like a veterinarian. he's like a veterinarian. >> Well, when we looked up his license, we >> Well, when we looked up his license, we >> Well, when we looked up his license, we found some disciplinary actions against found some disciplinary actions against found some disciplinary actions against him. One of which was an incident in him. One of which was an incident in him. One of which was an incident in 2003 where he was accused of giving 2003 where he was accused of giving 2003 where he was accused of giving animal medications to his kids. animal medications to his kids. animal medications to his kids. According to court records, the Montana According to court records, the Montana According to court records, the Montana Board of Veterinary Medicine found that Board of Veterinary Medicine found that Board of Veterinary Medicine found that he committed five violations and he was he committed five violations and he was he committed five violations and he was disciplined for them. Are they okay? So, disciplined for them. Are they okay? So, disciplined for them. Are they okay? So, yeah, the kids are okay, but the reports yeah, the kids are okay, but the reports yeah, the kids are okay, but the reports don't go into detail as far as like why don't go into detail as far as like why don't go into detail as far as like why he did this. They do note though that it he did this. They do note though that it he did this. They do note though that it happened regularly and they say that one happened regularly and they say that one happened regularly and they say that one of them might have been for an ear of them might have been for an ear of them might have been for an ear infection. So like maybe this animal infection. So like maybe this animal infection. So like maybe this animal medicine was like the same as like the medicine was like the same as like the medicine was like the same as like the human medicine that happens sometimes. human medicine that happens sometimes. human medicine that happens sometimes. He decided to use it since like he He decided to use it since like he He decided to use it since like he already had access to it. It doesn't already had access to it. It doesn't already had access to it. It doesn't matter. Like it's still a huge no no. matter. Like it's still a huge no no. matter. Like it's still a huge no no. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And they found out about this because >> And they found out about this because >> And they found out about this because his ex-wife reported him for it. And his ex-wife reported him for it. And his ex-wife reported him for it. And there are more disciplinary actions. So, there are more disciplinary actions. So, there are more disciplinary actions. So, like there's a more recent one that like there's a more recent one that like there's a more recent one that occurred in Florida where he practices occurred in Florida where he practices occurred in Florida where he practices today. I don't know what that is though.

today. I don't know what that is though. today. I don't know what that is though. We filed records requests for the We filed records requests for the We filed records requests for the reports and as of now they're still reports and as of now they're still reports and as of now they're still pending. But I don't like any of this pending. But I don't like any of this pending. But I don't like any of this that's on the books for him. Still that's on the books for him. Still that's on the books for him. Still though, friendly reminder that none of though, friendly reminder that none of though, friendly reminder that none of these things prove that he's capable of these things prove that he's capable of these things prove that he's capable of murder. Yeah, 100%. But if we're murder. Yeah, 100%. But if we're murder. Yeah, 100%. But if we're spitballing theories, I'd like to remind spitballing theories, I'd like to remind spitballing theories, I'd like to remind everyone that at least one set of everyone that at least one set of everyone that at least one set of Joyce's keys were found inside the Joyce's keys were found inside the Joyce's keys were found inside the apartment that she shared with Bruce. apartment that she shared with Bruce. apartment that she shared with Bruce. >> Plus, if he worked at the college, would >> Plus, if he worked at the college, would >> Plus, if he worked at the college, would he have had access to Steven's Hall? All he have had access to Steven's Hall? All he have had access to Steven's Hall? All we can do now in 2026 is guess because we can do now in 2026 is guess because we can do now in 2026 is guess because nobody seems to know for sure. But like, nobody seems to know for sure. But like, nobody seems to know for sure. But like, even if he didn't, does that matter? even if he didn't, does that matter? even if he didn't, does that matter? Because like we know Joyce is getting Because like we know Joyce is getting Because like we know Joyce is getting through an unlocked window. anyone could through an unlocked window. anyone could through an unlocked window. anyone could have gotten access to Steven's Hall the have gotten access to Steven's Hall the have gotten access to Steven's Hall the same way she did. same way she did. same way she did. >> And I hear you on all the things that >> And I hear you on all the things that >> And I hear you on all the things that are like suspicious, but there are holes are like suspicious, but there are holes are like suspicious, but there are holes in the Bruce theory. Like to me, it in the Bruce theory. Like to me, it in the Bruce theory. Like to me, it makes a lot more sense that if something makes a lot more sense that if something makes a lot more sense that if something happened involving him that it would happened involving him that it would happened involving him that it would happen at the apartment.

happen at the apartment. happen at the apartment. >> I mean, unless he followed her. >> I mean, unless he followed her. >> I mean, unless he followed her. >> Yeah. And I mean, to be fair, we still >> Yeah. And I mean, to be fair, we still >> Yeah. And I mean, to be fair, we still don't know where she was killed. I just don't know where she was killed. I just don't know where she was killed. I just like I can't get past the carpet being like I can't get past the carpet being like I can't get past the carpet being taken from Steven's Hall, but there was taken from Steven's Hall, but there was taken from Steven's Hall, but there was no blood on the missing carpet. It's no blood on the missing carpet. It's no blood on the missing carpet. It's basically clean. And if the FBI is basically clean. And if the FBI is basically clean. And if the FBI is correct about her being stabbed, like correct about her being stabbed, like correct about her being stabbed, like wouldn't you expect blood? wouldn't you expect blood? wouldn't you expect blood? >> Though, even that is an if all these >> Though, even that is an if all these >> Though, even that is an if all these years later. I personally think that's years later. I personally think that's years later. I personally think that's like a wrong determination that they like a wrong determination that they like a wrong determination that they made. I know that's like a bold made. I know that's like a bold made. I know that's like a bold statement, but it is an idea that statement, but it is an idea that statement, but it is an idea that Sheriff Myers has already had before I Sheriff Myers has already had before I Sheriff Myers has already had before I came along. Now, he doesn't know how came along. Now, he doesn't know how came along. Now, he doesn't know how long Joyce was in the canyon before she long Joyce was in the canyon before she long Joyce was in the canyon before she was found. what early investigators was found. what early investigators was found. what early investigators called puncture marks or like that called puncture marks or like that called puncture marks or like that looked like it could have been from a looked like it could have been from a looked like it could have been from a knife, like stab wounds on the bones, he knife, like stab wounds on the bones, he knife, like stab wounds on the bones, he thinks could be a sign of animal thinks could be a sign of animal thinks could be a sign of animal activity instead. activity instead. activity instead. >> Oh, maybe she was killed in a way that >> Oh, maybe she was killed in a way that >> Oh, maybe she was killed in a way that didn't involve a messy crime scene. Like didn't involve a messy crime scene. Like didn't involve a messy crime scene. Like you would think if she had been stabbed, you would think if she had been stabbed, you would think if she had been stabbed, there would be something on the carpet. there would be something on the carpet. there would be something on the carpet. Even if like she wasn't killed on the Even if like she wasn't killed on the Even if like she wasn't killed on the carpet, carpet, carpet, >> she would still be like bleeding out.

>> she would still be like bleeding out. >> she would still be like bleeding out. There would still be like blood on her There would still be like blood on her There would still be like blood on her that would get on the carpet. that would get on the carpet. that would get on the carpet. >> So, is it possible she died another way? >> So, is it possible she died another way? >> So, is it possible she died another way? Okay, then where did that happen? Is it Okay, then where did that happen? Is it Okay, then where did that happen? Is it where her clothes ended up? Because they where her clothes ended up? Because they where her clothes ended up? Because they never found those. They just found the never found those. They just found the never found those. They just found the pair of slashed underwear that they pair of slashed underwear that they pair of slashed underwear that they believed were hers. believed were hers. believed were hers. >> Could they test any of that for DNA? >> Could they test any of that for DNA? >> Could they test any of that for DNA? >> I know the underwear got tested along >> I know the underwear got tested along >> I know the underwear got tested along with like the blankets over the years, with like the blankets over the years, with like the blankets over the years, but so far they haven't gotten anything but so far they haven't gotten anything but so far they haven't gotten anything meaningful from it. But, you know, new meaningful from it. But, you know, new meaningful from it. But, you know, new tests are always coming available. And tests are always coming available. And tests are always coming available. And it's not like they have zero evidence. it's not like they have zero evidence. it's not like they have zero evidence. Joyce's letters and diary pages that Joyce's letters and diary pages that Joyce's letters and diary pages that investigators found at Stevens Hall have investigators found at Stevens Hall have investigators found at Stevens Hall have always been a major key to this always been a major key to this always been a major key to this investigation. They gave detectives a investigation. They gave detectives a investigation. They gave detectives a unique glimpse into Joyce's personal unique glimpse into Joyce's personal unique glimpse into Joyce's personal life in the days leading up to her life in the days leading up to her life in the days leading up to her murder. And Joyce was detailed in her murder. And Joyce was detailed in her murder. And Joyce was detailed in her letters. There are names of several letters. There are names of several letters. There are names of several people that I haven't even mentioned people that I haven't even mentioned people that I haven't even mentioned that she was hanging out with that that she was hanging out with that that she was hanging out with that summer. And one of those names jumps off summer. And one of those names jumps off summer. And one of those names jumps off the pages at me and someone that I can't the pages at me and someone that I can't the pages at me and someone that I can't stop thinking about. This is one of the stop thinking about. This is one of the stop thinking about. This is one of the final theories I'll mention and that's final theories I'll mention and that's final theories I'll mention and that's the Steve Sullie theory. So, you know the Steve Sullie theory. So, you know the Steve Sullie theory. So, you know the letter where Joyce talks about Mark the letter where Joyce talks about Mark the letter where Joyce talks about Mark strangling people? Yeah. How could I strangling people? Yeah. How could I strangling people? Yeah. How could I forget? Well, in the very next forget? Well, in the very next forget? Well, in the very next paragraph, she talks about Steve and she paragraph, she talks about Steve and she paragraph, she talks about Steve and she says this. Steve Sullie is here this says this. Steve Sullie is here this says this. Steve Sullie is here this summer and has befriended me. He is summer and has befriended me. He is summer and has befriended me. He is quite unstable sometimes and always quite unstable sometimes and always quite unstable sometimes and always moody. However, he is going to become moody. However, he is going to become moody. However, he is going to become initiated into TM this week, so he

initiated into TM this week, so he initiated into TM this week, so he shouldn't suffer too long. He is shouldn't suffer too long. He is shouldn't suffer too long. He is directing a 4:15 communications class, directing a 4:15 communications class, directing a 4:15 communications class, which involves taping and filming which involves taping and filming which involves taping and filming commercials, advertisements, news, commercials, advertisements, news, commercials, advertisements, news, skits, plays, etc. on TV. Because there skits, plays, etc. on TV. Because there skits, plays, etc. on TV. Because there are no girls in the class, I have added are no girls in the class, I have added are no girls in the class, I have added it for one credit and do nothing but it for one credit and do nothing but it for one credit and do nothing but goof off in front of the camera once or goof off in front of the camera once or goof off in front of the camera once or twice a week. So Steve was shooting twice a week. So Steve was shooting twice a week. So Steve was shooting Joyce in commercials for like a comm's Joyce in commercials for like a comm's Joyce in commercials for like a comm's class and this made investigators class and this made investigators class and this made investigators curious about him also curious if like curious about him also curious if like curious about him also curious if like those commercials ever aired on TV or those commercials ever aired on TV or those commercials ever aired on TV or like what happened but they couldn't like what happened but they couldn't like what happened but they couldn't ever find commercials even though they ever find commercials even though they ever find commercials even though they actually this is one of the things they actually this is one of the things they actually this is one of the things they actually went looking for. Now that actually went looking for. Now that actually went looking for. Now that doesn't mean they don't exist just that doesn't mean they don't exist just that doesn't mean they don't exist just that it was a class project thing like is it was a class project thing like is it was a class project thing like is kind of the sense that I get but like kind of the sense that I get but like kind of the sense that I get but like they don't actually say that for sure. they don't actually say that for sure. they don't actually say that for sure. But we dug into the case file and Steve But we dug into the case file and Steve But we dug into the case file and Steve Sully comes up several other times. On August 10th, 1971, Steve Sully goes On August 10th, 1971, Steve Sully goes to the police department to tell them to the police department to tell them to the police department to tell them that he has Joyce's typewriter and he that he has Joyce's typewriter and he that he has Joyce's typewriter and he wants to turn it in for safekeeping.

wants to turn it in for safekeeping. wants to turn it in for safekeeping. Officers ask when he last saw Joyce. He Officers ask when he last saw Joyce. He Officers ask when he last saw Joyce. He says July 21st. There's no follow-up says July 21st. There's no follow-up says July 21st. There's no follow-up questioning about that last interaction. questioning about that last interaction. questioning about that last interaction. Right Right Right >> now, the next time Steve comes up is via >> now, the next time Steve comes up is via >> now, the next time Steve comes up is via this phone call tip in the spring of this phone call tip in the spring of this phone call tip in the spring of 1972, not long after Joyce's body was 1972, not long after Joyce's body was 1972, not long after Joyce's body was found. The tipster says that they saw found. The tipster says that they saw found. The tipster says that they saw Joyce on campus on July 19th, 1971 at Joyce on campus on July 19th, 1971 at Joyce on campus on July 19th, 1971 at the student union. So, this is just like the student union. So, this is just like the student union. So, this is just like a day or two before she goes missing. a day or two before she goes missing. a day or two before she goes missing. And they say that Joyce was talking to And they say that Joyce was talking to And they say that Joyce was talking to Steve and Steve left. And Joyce and this Steve and Steve left. And Joyce and this Steve and Steve left. And Joyce and this tipster walked to the library together. tipster walked to the library together. tipster walked to the library together. And Joyce quote appeared to be And Joyce quote appeared to be And Joyce quote appeared to be distressed. distressed. distressed. >> And the tipster said that she asked >> And the tipster said that she asked >> And the tipster said that she asked Joyce like, "What is wrong?" And Joyce Joyce like, "What is wrong?" And Joyce Joyce like, "What is wrong?" And Joyce said that she had gotten a letter from a said that she had gotten a letter from a said that she had gotten a letter from a man that she knew and that he was coming man that she knew and that he was coming man that she knew and that he was coming to visit her, but that Joyce was nervous to visit her, but that Joyce was nervous to visit her, but that Joyce was nervous because whoever this man was, she didn't because whoever this man was, she didn't because whoever this man was, she didn't trust him. And again, the tips are trust him. And again, the tips are trust him. And again, the tips are saying she's visibly upset, but she saying she's visibly upset, but she saying she's visibly upset, but she refused to identify this guy. Just said refused to identify this guy. Just said refused to identify this guy. Just said that he would be around in a few days.

that he would be around in a few days. that he would be around in a few days. And to me, at least, it kind of sounds And to me, at least, it kind of sounds And to me, at least, it kind of sounds like she's referring to someone else, like she's referring to someone else, like she's referring to someone else, like maybe uh like Mike Finch. It like maybe uh like Mike Finch. It like maybe uh like Mike Finch. It doesn't sound necessarily like she's doesn't sound necessarily like she's doesn't sound necessarily like she's referencing Steve. I think that's a fair referencing Steve. I think that's a fair referencing Steve. I think that's a fair assumption, but I do think it's assumption, but I do think it's assumption, but I do think it's interesting and worth mentioning that interesting and worth mentioning that interesting and worth mentioning that one of the only tips in the case file one of the only tips in the case file one of the only tips in the case file that says Joyce was distressed in the that says Joyce was distressed in the that says Joyce was distressed in the days leading up to her disappearance is days leading up to her disappearance is days leading up to her disappearance is one where she had just been with Steve. one where she had just been with Steve. one where she had just been with Steve. >> Like, what were they talking about that >> Like, what were they talking about that >> Like, what were they talking about that made her visibly upset? And was Joyce made her visibly upset? And was Joyce made her visibly upset? And was Joyce trying to make a cover story for like trying to make a cover story for like trying to make a cover story for like what had her worked up? Because here's what had her worked up? Because here's what had her worked up? Because here's another interesting tidbit about Steve. another interesting tidbit about Steve. another interesting tidbit about Steve. Joyce's roommate, Bruce, tells police Joyce's roommate, Bruce, tells police Joyce's roommate, Bruce, tells police during his interview that Joyce had during his interview that Joyce had during his interview that Joyce had dated Steve sophomore year. And Bruce dated Steve sophomore year. And Bruce dated Steve sophomore year. And Bruce says that not long before Joyce went says that not long before Joyce went says that not long before Joyce went missing, Steve told Joyce that she was missing, Steve told Joyce that she was missing, Steve told Joyce that she was quote the source of all his troubles and quote the source of all his troubles and quote the source of all his troubles and that Steve had been trying to see Joyce. that Steve had been trying to see Joyce. that Steve had been trying to see Joyce. And this information makes police circle And this information makes police circle And this information makes police circle back to Steve, only to find out, guess back to Steve, only to find out, guess back to Steve, only to find out, guess what? He just up and quit school and what? He just up and quit school and what? He just up and quit school and moved away. This is April 1972 when moved away. This is April 1972 when moved away. This is April 1972 when they're finding this out. Basically, the they're finding this out. Basically, the they're finding this out. Basically, the report says that this guy named Jay report says that this guy named Jay report says that this guy named Jay Foster told police that Steve quit Foster told police that Steve quit Foster told police that Steve quit school, returned to his home in New York school, returned to his home in New York school, returned to his home in New York like and this was about like 2 weeks like and this was about like 2 weeks like and this was about like 2 weeks before the end of the fall semester. So, before the end of the fall semester. So, before the end of the fall semester. So, I want to be clear, it's not like he up I want to be clear, it's not like he up I want to be clear, it's not like he up and left that summer. It was a few and left that summer. It was a few and left that summer. It was a few months later, but that also means that months later, but that also means that months later, but that also means that it's like while school is happening.

it's like while school is happening. it's like while school is happening. It's not like at the end of the year, at It's not like at the end of the year, at It's not like at the end of the year, at the end of a semester, it's in the the end of a semester, it's in the the end of a semester, it's in the middle of the school, middle of the school, middle of the school, >> right? So why now? It's not until 2 >> right? So why now? It's not until 2 >> right? So why now? It's not until 2 years after that that police sit down years after that that police sit down years after that that police sit down with Steve. By then he has returned to with Steve. By then he has returned to with Steve. By then he has returned to WSU. He is reenrolled in school. And he WSU. He is reenrolled in school. And he WSU. He is reenrolled in school. And he says yes, he was shooting Joyce in says yes, he was shooting Joyce in says yes, he was shooting Joyce in commercials for class, but he denies commercials for class, but he denies commercials for class, but he denies that they ever dated. He says he was that they ever dated. He says he was that they ever dated. He says he was dating another girl named Mary and dating another girl named Mary and dating another girl named Mary and that's actually how he met Joyce. And he that's actually how he met Joyce. And he that's actually how he met Joyce. And he says that the last interaction they had says that the last interaction they had says that the last interaction they had on July 21st was at his apartment. And on July 21st was at his apartment. And on July 21st was at his apartment. And he says that Joyce had been helping him he says that Joyce had been helping him he says that Joyce had been helping him with some typing assignments at night. with some typing assignments at night. with some typing assignments at night. So she would like come over to the So she would like come over to the So she would like come over to the apartment with her typewriter, apartment with her typewriter, apartment with her typewriter, >> which explains why he had her >> which explains why he had her >> which explains why he had her typewriter. typewriter. typewriter. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Is his apartment anywhere near her car? >> Is his apartment anywhere near her car? >> Is his apartment anywhere near her car? >> His apartment was at 918 Harvey Road, so >> His apartment was at 918 Harvey Road, so >> His apartment was at 918 Harvey Road, so it's not too far. It's like less than it's not too far. It's like less than it's not too far. It's like less than half a mile away. It's like an 8minute half a mile away. It's like an 8minute half a mile away. It's like an 8minute walk from walk from walk from >> It's like basically a college campus, so >> It's like basically a college campus, so >> It's like basically a college campus, so everything's like relatively close, but everything's like relatively close, but everything's like relatively close, but not super close. not super close. not super close. >> But they ask Steve the important >> But they ask Steve the important >> But they ask Steve the important question like, "Why did you quit school question like, "Why did you quit school question like, "Why did you quit school back in ' 71? why did you like move back in ' 71? why did you like move back in ' 71? why did you like move away? And he said that he moved away and away? And he said that he moved away and away? And he said that he moved away and withdrew because he ran out of money. He withdrew because he ran out of money. He withdrew because he ran out of money. He also says like I guess he was thinking also says like I guess he was thinking also says like I guess he was thinking about joining her meditation group but about joining her meditation group but about joining her meditation group but like didn't do that because he was so like didn't do that because he was so like didn't do that because he was so broke as well. Now notably absent from broke as well. Now notably absent from broke as well. Now notably absent from the questioning of Steve is about that the questioning of Steve is about that the questioning of Steve is about that tipster saying that Joyce was visibly tipster saying that Joyce was visibly tipster saying that Joyce was visibly upset after she's seen talking to him on upset after she's seen talking to him on upset after she's seen talking to him on campus on the 19th, campus on the 19th, campus on the 19th, >> which is frustrating, but at this point >> which is frustrating, but at this point >> which is frustrating, but at this point doesn't surprise me. The case file doesn't surprise me. The case file doesn't surprise me. The case file indicates that Steve then agrees to take indicates that Steve then agrees to take indicates that Steve then agrees to take a polygraph that officers believed he

a polygraph that officers believed he a polygraph that officers believed he was being truthful and the end, but I was being truthful and the end, but I was being truthful and the end, but I can't find a copy of the actual can't find a copy of the actual can't find a copy of the actual polygraph test in the case file. Like polygraph test in the case file. Like polygraph test in the case file. Like everyone, we tried reaching Steve, but everyone, we tried reaching Steve, but everyone, we tried reaching Steve, but we haven't heard back yet. Emily did we haven't heard back yet. Emily did we haven't heard back yet. Emily did reach his college roommate from back reach his college roommate from back reach his college roommate from back then, Jay. He didn't really remember then, Jay. He didn't really remember then, Jay. He didn't really remember Joyce's case, but he did confirm for us Joyce's case, but he did confirm for us Joyce's case, but he did confirm for us that Steve lived with him that summer on that Steve lived with him that summer on that Steve lived with him that summer on Harvey Road. He said that Steve was a Harvey Road. He said that Steve was a Harvey Road. He said that Steve was a good guy, easy to get along with, and he good guy, easy to get along with, and he good guy, easy to get along with, and he couldn't remember why Steve quit school. couldn't remember why Steve quit school. couldn't remember why Steve quit school. However, he did not get the sense that However, he did not get the sense that However, he did not get the sense that it was money related. Jay told us that it was money related. Jay told us that it was money related. Jay told us that Steve's girlfriend at the time spent a Steve's girlfriend at the time spent a Steve's girlfriend at the time spent a lot of time at their apartment, but he lot of time at their apartment, but he lot of time at their apartment, but he couldn't remember her name. It was couldn't remember her name. It was couldn't remember her name. It was probably Mary. We also tried to reach probably Mary. We also tried to reach probably Mary. We also tried to reach her, but no luck. I've told you Joyce her, but no luck. I've told you Joyce her, but no luck. I've told you Joyce was murdered 55 years ago. And I want to was murdered 55 years ago. And I want to was murdered 55 years ago. And I want to give credit where credit is due. Usually give credit where credit is due. Usually give credit where credit is due. Usually when we cover cases this old, especially when we cover cases this old, especially when we cover cases this old, especially when they start as a disappearance, the when they start as a disappearance, the when they start as a disappearance, the theme of the file is like, oh, you know, theme of the file is like, oh, you know, theme of the file is like, oh, you know, she probably just like left on her own, she probably just like left on her own, she probably just like left on her own, walked away from her life, she's going walked away from her life, she's going walked away from her life, she's going to join a hippie commune or whatever, to join a hippie commune or whatever, to join a hippie commune or whatever, especially in the 70s.

especially in the 70s. especially in the 70s. >> But investigators worked this case >> But investigators worked this case >> But investigators worked this case pretty hard from the very beginning, pretty hard from the very beginning, pretty hard from the very beginning, long before her body was found, and long long before her body was found, and long long before her body was found, and long before any modern technology was there before any modern technology was there before any modern technology was there to help them. Jeriff Meyers told us that to help them. Jeriff Meyers told us that to help them. Jeriff Meyers told us that if Joyce had been killed today or even if Joyce had been killed today or even if Joyce had been killed today or even in like this decade, there is no doubt in like this decade, there is no doubt in like this decade, there is no doubt in his mind that they would have caught in his mind that they would have caught in his mind that they would have caught her killer. But somehow her killer has her killer. But somehow her killer has her killer. But somehow her killer has gotten away with it. But they're not gotten away with it. But they're not gotten away with it. But they're not giving up. They are constantly looking giving up. They are constantly looking giving up. They are constantly looking for new evidence on old items and giving for new evidence on old items and giving for new evidence on old items and giving new eyes to the stuff that has been new eyes to the stuff that has been new eyes to the stuff that has been there all along. There is so much to there all along. There is so much to there all along. There is so much to this case. So many little pieces of this case. So many little pieces of this case. So many little pieces of info, weird details. I could do a info, weird details. I could do a info, weird details. I could do a limited series or write a book. I limited series or write a book. I limited series or write a book. I literally could do another episode on a literally could do another episode on a literally could do another episode on a whole new suspect that we found in like whole new suspect that we found in like whole new suspect that we found in like the 11th hour in the case file. If you the 11th hour in the case file. If you the 11th hour in the case file. If you want to, hit me up in the comments, but want to, hit me up in the comments, but want to, hit me up in the comments, but I want to dissect all of it because I I want to dissect all of it because I I want to dissect all of it because I know that the truth is in there know that the truth is in there know that the truth is in there somewhere. I want to know more about somewhere. I want to know more about somewhere. I want to know more about Mark's history. What was the big drug Mark's history. What was the big drug Mark's history. What was the big drug bust 2 years before? And I know I bust 2 years before? And I know I bust 2 years before? And I know I mentioned the fact that Mike is mentioned the fact that Mike is mentioned the fact that Mike is deceased. We believe Mark wouldn't get deceased. We believe Mark wouldn't get deceased. We believe Mark wouldn't get in touch with us. Emily did try to get in touch with us. Emily did try to get in touch with us. Emily did try to get in touch with Celeste by email and she in touch with Celeste by email and she in touch with Celeste by email and she was supposed to call Emily, but as of was supposed to call Emily, but as of was supposed to call Emily, but as of this recording, we have not heard from this recording, we have not heard from this recording, we have not heard from her.

her. her. >> I mean, I am extremely curious as to >> I mean, I am extremely curious as to >> I mean, I am extremely curious as to what she would have to say. what she would have to say. what she would have to say. >> Same. I mean, other questions I have >> Same. I mean, other questions I have >> Same. I mean, other questions I have like how did Joyce get to Steven's Hall like how did Joyce get to Steven's Hall like how did Joyce get to Steven's Hall that night? Did she at all? And who all that night? Did she at all? And who all that night? Did she at all? And who all knew that she was going to be there? You knew that she was going to be there? You knew that she was going to be there? You know, they spent a good amount of time know, they spent a good amount of time know, they spent a good amount of time looking at the tile setter in this case, looking at the tile setter in this case, looking at the tile setter in this case, but there were two other contractors on but there were two other contractors on but there were two other contractors on campus at one point with him. I mean, he campus at one point with him. I mean, he campus at one point with him. I mean, he mentions them. And the only reason they mentions them. And the only reason they mentions them. And the only reason they even knew about the tile setter at all even knew about the tile setter at all even knew about the tile setter at all was because of the campus police officer was because of the campus police officer was because of the campus police officer who just happened to see the tile who just happened to see the tile who just happened to see the tile setter's car parked in Stevens Hall in setter's car parked in Stevens Hall in setter's car parked in Stevens Hall in the middle of the night. By the way, the middle of the night. By the way, the middle of the night. By the way, there is a tip in the case file about there is a tip in the case file about there is a tip in the case file about that guy. that guy. that guy. >> That guy, the campus cop? >> That guy, the campus cop? >> That guy, the campus cop? >> Yeah. The tip says that he was a suspect >> Yeah. The tip says that he was a suspect >> Yeah. The tip says that he was a suspect in a molestation case near Arts Hall in a molestation case near Arts Hall in a molestation case near Arts Hall just a few months before Joyce went just a few months before Joyce went just a few months before Joyce went missing. And then after Joyce went missing. And then after Joyce went missing. And then after Joyce went missing, he up and quits the force. missing, he up and quits the force. missing, he up and quits the force. >> Okay, >> Okay, >> Okay, comments or not, I personally would like comments or not, I personally would like comments or not, I personally would like a limited series on this. Do what? a limited series on this. Do what? a limited series on this. Do what? >> Do not tempt me. There's also this one >> Do not tempt me. There's also this one >> Do not tempt me. There's also this one strange detail that I thought was weird.

strange detail that I thought was weird. strange detail that I thought was weird. Like in the early days when Joyce was a Like in the early days when Joyce was a Like in the early days when Joyce was a missing person, they contacted the phone missing person, they contacted the phone missing person, they contacted the phone company to pull any long distance calls company to pull any long distance calls company to pull any long distance calls from her apartment. from her apartment. from her apartment. >> I don't think they could get like full >> I don't think they could get like full >> I don't think they could get like full phone records, but they could see phone records, but they could see phone records, but they could see longdistance calls back then. And they longdistance calls back then. And they longdistance calls back then. And they make note that there was one call on make note that there was one call on make note that there was one call on July 15th to a number in Moses Lake, July 15th to a number in Moses Lake, July 15th to a number in Moses Lake, Washington. Now granted, this is like a Washington. Now granted, this is like a Washington. Now granted, this is like a week before, but they track this number week before, but they track this number week before, but they track this number to someone named Russell Hansen. When to someone named Russell Hansen. When to someone named Russell Hansen. When they call, his wife answers and she's they call, his wife answers and she's they call, his wife answers and she's like, "I don't know Joyce. I don't know like, "I don't know Joyce. I don't know like, "I don't know Joyce. I don't know Bruce." Like, "This is the call's coming Bruce." Like, "This is the call's coming Bruce." Like, "This is the call's coming from their place. I don't know either from their place. I don't know either from their place. I don't know either one of them." They never found out who one of them." They never found out who one of them." They never found out who called that number. Now, it's a called that number. Now, it's a called that number. Now, it's a disconnected number now. 5097629234. We just get a disconnected tone when we We just get a disconnected tone when we call it. So, I don't know what that call it. So, I don't know what that call it. So, I don't know what that means, but the only other time that means, but the only other time that means, but the only other time that Moses Lake seems to come up in the files Moses Lake seems to come up in the files Moses Lake seems to come up in the files is when they went looking for Mike Finch is when they went looking for Mike Finch is when they went looking for Mike Finch in 2013. in 2013. in 2013. He lived in Moses Lake. Then, I think He lived in Moses Lake. Then, I think He lived in Moses Lake. Then, I think the truth is still out there. And thanks the truth is still out there. And thanks the truth is still out there. And thanks to Joyce's brother, Bruce Leage, there to Joyce's brother, Bruce Leage, there to Joyce's brother, Bruce Leage, there is still an active cash reward up for is still an active cash reward up for is still an active cash reward up for grabs. A pretty hefty one. $100,000.

grabs. A pretty hefty one. $100,000. grabs. A pretty hefty one. $100,000. 60,000 for information leading to an 60,000 for information leading to an 60,000 for information leading to an arrest and another 40,000 if it leads to arrest and another 40,000 if it leads to arrest and another 40,000 if it leads to a conviction. Joyce's parents have since a conviction. Joyce's parents have since a conviction. Joyce's parents have since passed away. And Bruce Leage is now passed away. And Bruce Leage is now passed away. And Bruce Leage is now leading the charge to get justice for leading the charge to get justice for leading the charge to get justice for his sister, even doing a lot of his own his sister, even doing a lot of his own his sister, even doing a lot of his own investigating. But the sad thing is he investigating. But the sad thing is he investigating. But the sad thing is he told us that he's kind of given up hope. told us that he's kind of given up hope. told us that he's kind of given up hope. >> He isn't really expecting to ever find >> He isn't really expecting to ever find >> He isn't really expecting to ever find out who killed his sister. out who killed his sister. out who killed his sister. Maybe we can help. So, crime junkies, if Maybe we can help. So, crime junkies, if Maybe we can help. So, crime junkies, if you know anything about the murder of you know anything about the murder of you know anything about the murder of Joyce Leage, call the Whitman County Joyce Leage, call the Whitman County Joyce Leage, call the Whitman County Sheriff's Office at 5093976266 and ask for Sheriff Brett Meyers. No tip and ask for Sheriff Brett Meyers. No tip is too small. Or you can email us is too small. Or you can email us is too small. Or you can email us [email protected]. [email protected]. [email protected]. Let's give Joyce's brother something to Let's give Joyce's brother something to Let's give Joyce's brother something to hope for.