Did Alberta O. Jones Uncover Something Dangerous?

Hi Crime Junkies, I'm your host Ashley Hi Crime Junkies, I'm your host Ashley Flowers. Flowers. Flowers. >> And I'm Britt. And you guys, there is a >> And I'm Britt. And you guys, there is a >> And I'm Britt. And you guys, there is a case out of Louisville, Kentucky that I case out of Louisville, Kentucky that I case out of Louisville, Kentucky that I bet you've never heard of. bet you've never heard of. bet you've never heard of. >> About a woman that you've probably never >> About a woman that you've probably never >> About a woman that you've probably never heard of. heard of. heard of. But I don't know why. But I don't know why. But I don't know why. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> Because it's one of the most mysterious >> Because it's one of the most mysterious >> Because it's one of the most mysterious cases I've come across. A call in the cases I've come across. A call in the cases I've come across. A call in the middle of the night lures a woman out of middle of the night lures a woman out of middle of the night lures a woman out of her home, and hours later, her body is her home, and hours later, her body is her home, and hours later, her body is found floating in a nearby river. found floating in a nearby river. found floating in a nearby river. The list of suspects is a mile long, and The list of suspects is a mile long, and The list of suspects is a mile long, and evidence keeps showing up all over town. evidence keeps showing up all over town. evidence keeps showing up all over town. Sometimes in suspiciously planted ways. Sometimes in suspiciously planted ways. Sometimes in suspiciously planted ways. Yet, for 60 years, this case has Yet, for 60 years, this case has Yet, for 60 years, this case has remained unsolved. Our investigation set remained unsolved. Our investigation set remained unsolved. Our investigation set out to ask the question, why? out to ask the question, why? out to ask the question, why? And the possibilities will surprise you. And the possibilities will surprise you. And the possibilities will surprise you. Maybe it's because evidence in the case Maybe it's because evidence in the case Maybe it's because evidence in the case mysteriously disappeared. It could be mysteriously disappeared. It could be mysteriously disappeared. It could be because some investigators on the case because some investigators on the case because some investigators on the case had ulterior motives. Or, it could be had ulterior motives. Or, it could be had ulterior motives. Or, it could be because the very foundation that this because the very foundation that this because the very foundation that this story was built on story was built on story was built on might be a lie. might be a lie. might be a lie. This is the story of a woman you should This is the story of a woman you should This is the story of a woman you should know about. A passionate attorney who know about. A passionate attorney who know about. A passionate attorney who made strides at the height of the Civil made strides at the height of the Civil made strides at the height of the Civil Rights Movement. A woman who was Rights Movement. A woman who was Rights Movement. A woman who was brutally murdered before she could break brutally murdered before she could break brutally murdered before she could break even more barriers.

even more barriers. even more barriers. This is the story of Alberta O. Jones. Alberta Jones didn't want to go out that Alberta Jones didn't want to go out that Wednesday night on August 4th, 1965. Wednesday night on August 4th, 1965. Wednesday night on August 4th, 1965. The truth is, things had gotten The truth is, things had gotten The truth is, things had gotten dangerous for her recently. She'd taken dangerous for her recently. She'd taken dangerous for her recently. She'd taken a new job, and she'd been doing Civil a new job, and she'd been doing Civil a new job, and she'd been doing Civil Rights work that put a target on her Rights work that put a target on her Rights work that put a target on her back. So, she was being more cautious back. So, she was being more cautious back. So, she was being more cautious than she had ever been before. That's than she had ever been before. That's than she had ever been before. That's why when her friend Gladys Wyckoff first why when her friend Gladys Wyckoff first why when her friend Gladys Wyckoff first [music] called at around 11:00 p.m. and [music] called at around 11:00 p.m. and [music] called at around 11:00 p.m. and asked her to come over, Alberta said no. asked her to come over, Alberta said no. asked her to come over, Alberta said no. But Gladys pushed. She was a hair But Gladys pushed. She was a hair But Gladys pushed. She was a hair stylist, too, and she practically begged stylist, too, and she practically begged stylist, too, and she practically begged Alberta to come over that night because Alberta to come over that night because Alberta to come over that night because the new wig that Alberta wanted was the new wig that Alberta wanted was the new wig that Alberta wanted was ready for her. ready for her. ready for her. >> Okay, so get it any other time. >> Okay, so get it any other time. >> Okay, so get it any other time. >> Well, and maybe the real reason it had >> Well, and maybe the real reason it had >> Well, and maybe the real reason it had to be right then was that she wanted to to be right then was that she wanted to to be right then was that she wanted to chat about some legal trouble that she chat about some legal trouble that she chat about some legal trouble that she was in. Cuz you see, Alberta is a was in. Cuz you see, Alberta is a was in. Cuz you see, Alberta is a lawyer. That new job that she had just lawyer. That new job that she had just lawyer. That new job that she had just gotten was as a prosecutor. gotten was as a prosecutor. gotten was as a prosecutor. >> Oh, so good friend to have. >> Oh, so good friend to have. >> Oh, so good friend to have. >> Free legal advice, right?

>> Free legal advice, right? >> Free legal advice, right? So, this is when Gladys laid it on So, this is when Gladys laid it on So, this is when Gladys laid it on really thick. Like gave her a bit of a really thick. Like gave her a bit of a really thick. Like gave her a bit of a guilt trip. She's telling Alberta like, guilt trip. She's telling Alberta like, guilt trip. She's telling Alberta like, "Oh, well, you've gotten snobby since "Oh, well, you've gotten snobby since "Oh, well, you've gotten snobby since getting that new job." And that must getting that new job." And that must getting that new job." And that must have done it because Alberta was at have done it because Alberta was at have done it because Alberta was at Gladys's house by 11:30 p.m. Now, Gladys's house by 11:30 p.m. Now, Gladys's house by 11:30 p.m. Now, according to Gladys, they hang out at according to Gladys, they hang out at according to Gladys, they hang out at her salon that's in her house until her salon that's in her house until her salon that's in her house until about 12:15 when they decide to go grab about 12:15 when they decide to go grab about 12:15 when they decide to go grab a bite to eat at this local seafood a bite to eat at this local seafood a bite to eat at this local seafood restaurant called Kingfish. And then on restaurant called Kingfish. And then on restaurant called Kingfish. And then on the way back to Gladys's, they pick up the way back to Gladys's, they pick up the way back to Gladys's, they pick up the local newspaper, the Louisville the local newspaper, the Louisville the local newspaper, the Louisville Defender, because there was this article Defender, because there was this article Defender, because there was this article in it that like one of Gladys's in it that like one of Gladys's in it that like one of Gladys's employees was featured and she was employees was featured and she was employees was featured and she was calling out racist double standards in calling out racist double standards in calling out racist double standards in the hair styling industry. the hair styling industry. the hair styling industry. So, once they got back, Gladys [music] So, once they got back, Gladys [music] So, once they got back, Gladys [music] trimmed Alberta's wig, fitted it on her trimmed Alberta's wig, fitted it on her trimmed Alberta's wig, fitted it on her before Alberta left between 1:30 and before Alberta left between 1:30 and before Alberta left between 1:30 and 2:00 a.m. And Gladys said that she 2:00 a.m. And Gladys said that she 2:00 a.m. And Gladys said that she watched Alberta get into her car, and watched Alberta get into her car, and watched Alberta get into her car, and then [music] Gladys herself went back then [music] Gladys herself went back then [music] Gladys herself went back inside to go to bed. Now, it wasn't inside to go to bed. Now, it wasn't inside to go to bed. Now, it wasn't until the next morning that Alberta's until the next morning that Alberta's until the next morning that Alberta's sister Flora and her mom Sadie realized sister Flora and her mom Sadie realized sister Flora and her mom Sadie realized that she hadn't made it home the night that she hadn't made it home the night that she hadn't made it home the night before. Like they all lived together and before. Like they all lived together and before. Like they all lived together and Flora and Sadie knew something was wrong Flora and Sadie knew something was wrong Flora and Sadie knew something was wrong pretty quickly. Like they knew about pretty quickly. Like they knew about pretty quickly. Like they knew about Alberta's fears, knew that she went out Alberta's fears, knew that she went out Alberta's fears, knew that she went out last night anyway, and if she was going last night anyway, and if she was going last night anyway, and if she was going to stay out, she would have called. So, to stay out, she would have called. So, to stay out, she would have called. So, they phoned Gladys's house looking for they phoned Gladys's house looking for they phoned Gladys's house looking for Alberta, but Gladys's daughter answered Alberta, but Gladys's daughter answered Alberta, but Gladys's daughter answered and told them that Alberta wasn't there.

and told them that Alberta wasn't there. and told them that Alberta wasn't there. By the way, her car wasn't out front, By the way, her car wasn't out front, By the way, her car wasn't out front, and even when she looked down the street and even when she looked down the street and even when she looked down the street to the parking lot of Alberta's law to the parking lot of Alberta's law to the parking lot of Alberta's law office, she didn't see her car there, office, she didn't see her car there, office, she didn't see her car there, either. either. either. Now, what her family didn't know was Now, what her family didn't know was Now, what her family didn't know was that [music] by the time they were that [music] by the time they were that [music] by the time they were making these calls and by the time they making these calls and by the time they making these calls and by the time they were even beginning to worry, it was were even beginning to worry, it was were even beginning to worry, it was already too late. That same morning, a already too late. That same morning, a already too late. That same morning, a group of boys walking along the Ohio group of boys walking along the Ohio group of boys walking along the Ohio River south of the Sherman Minton Bridge River south of the Sherman Minton Bridge River south of the Sherman Minton Bridge had found Alberta floating face down had found Alberta floating face down had found Alberta floating face down [music] 15 ft from the shore. [music] 15 ft from the shore. [music] 15 ft from the shore. A coroner later found lacerations on her A coroner later found lacerations on her A coroner later found lacerations on her head and her face and scrapes on her head and her face and scrapes on her head and her face and scrapes on her right arm and leg. right arm and leg. right arm and leg. But the trauma is not what killed her. But the trauma is not what killed her. But the trauma is not what killed her. They determined [music] that after being They determined [music] that after being They determined [music] that after being beaten, Alberta was put into the river beaten, Alberta was put into the river beaten, Alberta was put into the river alive and she actually died of drowning. alive and she actually died of drowning. alive and she actually died of drowning. Sometime, they say, Sometime, they say, Sometime, they say, >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> between 2:30 in the morning and 4:30 in >> between 2:30 in the morning and 4:30 in >> between 2:30 in the morning and 4:30 in the morning. the morning. the morning. >> So, pretty shortly after Gladys saw her >> So, pretty shortly after Gladys saw her >> So, pretty shortly after Gladys saw her leave. leave. leave. >> Yes. Now, when she was found, she was >> Yes. Now, when she was found, she was >> Yes. Now, when she was found, she was still in the striped dress that she wore still in the striped dress that she wore still in the striped dress that she wore out that night. But her shoes and her out that night. But her shoes and her out that night. But her shoes and her purse were missing [music] along with purse were missing [music] along with purse were missing [music] along with the dentures that she regularly wore.

the dentures that she regularly wore. the dentures that she regularly wore. And most glaringly of all, her car And most glaringly of all, her car And most glaringly of all, her car [music] [music] [music] is still nowhere to be found. But over is still nowhere to be found. But over is still nowhere to be found. But over the next few days, missing items and the next few days, missing items and the next few days, missing items and [music] clues begin to surface that [music] clues begin to surface that [music] clues begin to surface that painted a picture of Alberta's final painted a picture of Alberta's final painted a picture of Alberta's final hours. hours. hours. First were her shoes. Now, the police First were her shoes. Now, the police First were her shoes. Now, the police didn't get a call about the shoes until didn't get a call about the shoes until didn't get a call about the shoes until Friday. That's the day after Alberta was Friday. That's the day after Alberta was Friday. That's the day after Alberta was pulled from the river. But it turns out pulled from the river. But it turns out pulled from the river. But it turns out they had actually been found an hour they had actually been found an hour they had actually been found an hour before Alberta's body was. before Alberta's body was. before Alberta's body was. A man who worked at a golf course A man who worked at a golf course A man who worked at a golf course located just under the Sherman Minton located just under the Sherman Minton located just under the Sherman Minton Bridge on the bank of the Ohio River Bridge on the bank of the Ohio River Bridge on the bank of the Ohio River said that he found them kind of like said that he found them kind of like said that he found them kind of like scattered about, maybe like 10 ft apart, scattered about, maybe like 10 ft apart, scattered about, maybe like 10 ft apart, just a few feet from the exit ramp just a few feet from the exit ramp just a few feet from the exit ramp coming off the bridge. And police coming off the bridge. And police coming off the bridge. And police thought that it looked like maybe the thought that it looked like maybe the thought that it looked like maybe the shoes could have been tossed from the shoes could have been tossed from the shoes could have been tossed from the bridge itself. Now, luckily, this guy at bridge itself. Now, luckily, this guy at bridge itself. Now, luckily, this guy at the course kept them like he did with the course kept them like he did with the course kept them like he did with anything valuable that he found. So, he anything valuable that he found. So, he anything valuable that he found. So, he was able to turn them over to police. was able to turn them over to police. was able to turn them over to police. But there wasn't much notable about But there wasn't much notable about But there wasn't much notable about them. No like them. No like them. No like >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> blood or anything like that.

>> blood or anything like that. >> blood or anything like that. >> And how far were the shoes from where >> And how far were the shoes from where >> And how far were the shoes from where her body was found? her body was found? her body was found? >> Not a huge distance. So, like from this >> Not a huge distance. So, like from this >> Not a huge distance. So, like from this hand-drawn map in the case file, it hand-drawn map in the case file, it hand-drawn map in the case file, it looks like maybe her body was found looks like maybe her body was found looks like maybe her body was found about a city block downriver. Which is about a city block downriver. Which is about a city block downriver. Which is interesting because [music] it was interesting because [music] it was interesting because [music] it was theorized early on that maybe Alberta theorized early on that maybe Alberta theorized early on that maybe Alberta was thrown from the bridge into the was thrown from the bridge into the was thrown from the bridge into the water. So, maybe her and her shoes were water. So, maybe her and her shoes were water. So, maybe her and her shoes were like tossed over at the same time and like tossed over at the same time and like tossed over at the same time and like she landed in the water, maybe her like she landed in the water, maybe her like she landed in the water, maybe her shoes didn't. But, if she's in the shoes didn't. But, if she's in the shoes didn't. But, if she's in the water, she gets carried downstream. water, she gets carried downstream. water, she gets carried downstream. [music] [music] [music] And the Ohio River here separates And the Ohio River here separates And the Ohio River here separates Indiana from Kentucky. Indiana from Kentucky. Indiana from Kentucky. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> And like I'm sure you know this, but for >> And like I'm sure you know this, but for >> And like I'm sure you know this, but for people who don't, the bridge actually people who don't, the bridge actually people who don't, the bridge actually has two levels. So, the top level goes has two levels. So, the top level goes has two levels. So, the top level goes from Kentucky to Indiana and the bottom from Kentucky to Indiana and the bottom from Kentucky to Indiana and the bottom level is from Indiana to Kentucky. So, level is from Indiana to Kentucky. So, level is from Indiana to Kentucky. So, the exit ramp where her shoes were the exit ramp where her shoes were the exit ramp where her shoes were found, that is the ramp if you were found, that is the ramp if you were found, that is the ramp if you were coming into Kentucky. coming into Kentucky. coming into Kentucky. >> From Indiana. >> From Indiana. >> From Indiana. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Alberta went missing from Louisville, >> Alberta went missing from Louisville, >> Alberta went missing from Louisville, Kentucky. Kentucky. Kentucky. >> Right. So, if those were thrown from the >> Right. So, if those were thrown from the >> Right. So, if those were thrown from the bridge or from a moving vehicle, it was bridge or from a moving vehicle, it was bridge or from a moving vehicle, it was somebody who left and then somebody who left and then somebody who left and then >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> came back into that state. Now, it's >> came back into that state. Now, it's >> came back into that state. Now, it's possible that someone went onto the possible that someone went onto the possible that someone went onto the bridge from Kentucky to Indiana. Maybe bridge from Kentucky to Indiana. Maybe bridge from Kentucky to Indiana. Maybe they dumped Alberta over on that side.

they dumped Alberta over on that side. they dumped Alberta over on that side. She would have floated downriver. All She would have floated downriver. All She would have floated downriver. All the same as it even if she was thrown the same as it even if she was thrown the same as it even if she was thrown from the other side. And then maybe as from the other side. And then maybe as from the other side. And then maybe as they're driving back, they realize like, they're driving back, they realize like, they're driving back, they realize like, "Oh my gosh, we her we still have her "Oh my gosh, we her we still have her "Oh my gosh, we her we still have her shoes. Like let's get rid of them." shoes. Like let's get rid of them." shoes. Like let's get rid of them." But, I think that's unlikely because of But, I think that's unlikely because of But, I think that's unlikely because of two critical points. two critical points. two critical points. Number one, authorities consulted Number one, authorities consulted Number one, authorities consulted someone on the current of the river and someone on the current of the river and someone on the current of the river and they said that if Alberta would have they said that if Alberta would have they said that if Alberta would have gone in, whatever side of the bridge, gone in, whatever side of the bridge, gone in, whatever side of the bridge, they would have expected her to end up they would have expected her to end up they would have expected her to end up on [music] the Indiana side of the on [music] the Indiana side of the on [music] the Indiana side of the river. She was found on the Kentucky river. She was found on the Kentucky river. She was found on the Kentucky side. side. side. Meaning someone had to have put her in Meaning someone had to have put her in Meaning someone had to have put her in the water likely from the shore on the the water likely from the shore on the the water likely from the shore on the Kentucky side. So, number two is even Kentucky side. So, number two is even Kentucky side. So, number two is even more bothersome. Who had her shoes and more bothersome. Who had her shoes and more bothersome. Who had her shoes and why were they on the off-ramp like going why were they on the off-ramp like going why were they on the off-ramp like going into Kentucky from Indiana? Like forget into Kentucky from Indiana? Like forget into Kentucky from Indiana? Like forget the directions for just a second and the directions for just a second and the directions for just a second and let's just like focus on the shoes let's just like focus on the shoes let's just like focus on the shoes themselves. [music] themselves. [music] themselves. [music] To me, getting rid of them implies that To me, getting rid of them implies that To me, getting rid of them implies that there was a reason you didn't want to there was a reason you didn't want to there was a reason you didn't want to leave them in the car.

leave them in the car. leave them in the car. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> If this was her car that they were in, >> If this was her car that they were in, >> If this was her car that they were in, like that doesn't make a whole lot of like that doesn't make a whole lot of like that doesn't make a whole lot of sense based on what police end up sense based on what police end up sense based on what police end up finding in her car when that surfaces a finding in her car when that surfaces a finding in her car when that surfaces a day later. [music] day later. [music] day later. [music] So that happens on Friday, August 6th. So that happens on Friday, August 6th. So that happens on Friday, August 6th. This turned out to be a huge [snorts] This turned out to be a huge [snorts] This turned out to be a huge [snorts] curveball because everyone had been curveball because everyone had been curveball because everyone had been looking for Alberta's car. It was this looking for Alberta's car. It was this looking for Alberta's car. It was this distinctive pink distinctive pink distinctive pink >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> Thunderbird. >> Thunderbird. >> Thunderbird. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> Hard to miss. >> Hard to miss. >> Hard to miss. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Turns out though, Alberta wasn't driving >> Turns out though, Alberta wasn't driving >> Turns out though, Alberta wasn't driving her own car that night. She was in a her own car that night. She was in a her own car that night. She was in a rental. rental. rental. Her Thunderbird was in the shop. So that Her Thunderbird was in the shop. So that Her Thunderbird was in the shop. So that very evening of the 4th, this is the day very evening of the 4th, this is the day very evening of the 4th, this is the day that she would eventually go to Gladys's that she would eventually go to Gladys's that she would eventually go to Gladys's that night. That very night she picked that night. That very night she picked that night. That very night she picked up a white Ford Fairlane. up a white Ford Fairlane. up a white Ford Fairlane. >> So she would have driven that to >> So she would have driven that to >> So she would have driven that to Gladys's. Why didn't Gladys tell anyone? Gladys's. Why didn't Gladys tell anyone? Gladys's. Why didn't Gladys tell anyone? Like she would have seen it when she Like she would have seen it when she Like she would have seen it when she left, right? left, right? left, right? >> We don't know for sure if Gladys did or >> We don't know for sure if Gladys did or >> We don't know for sure if Gladys did or didn't [music] say anything. Like didn't [music] say anything. Like didn't [music] say anything. Like from like I'm piecing this together from from like I'm piecing this together from from like I'm piecing this together from old reports. It seems like the first old reports. It seems like the first old reports. It seems like the first time everyone realizes time everyone realizes time everyone realizes that she's in this rental is the day that she's in this rental is the day that she's in this rental is the day that her body is found. [music] that her body is found. [music] that her body is found. [music] But if Gladys didn't say anything, I But if Gladys didn't say anything, I But if Gladys didn't say anything, I mean honestly, it could have just been mean honestly, it could have just been mean honestly, it could have just been because she assumed the family already because she assumed the family already because she assumed the family already knew. Like she drove from her house to knew. Like she drove from her house to knew. Like she drove from her house to Gladys's. So like Gladys's. So like Gladys's. So like >> Right.

>> Right. >> Right. >> know. >> know. >> know. Anyways, once they knew it was a white Anyways, once they knew it was a white Anyways, once they knew it was a white Ford that they were looking for, police Ford that they were looking for, police Ford that they were looking for, police jumped on a report of a similar jumped on a report of a similar jumped on a report of a similar abandoned car that came in that Friday abandoned car that came in that Friday abandoned car that came in that Friday night. [music] And it was Alberta's, all night. [music] And it was Alberta's, all night. [music] And it was Alberta's, all right. Parked on a residential street right. Parked on a residential street right. Parked on a residential street just a little over 2 miles from where just a little over 2 miles from where just a little over 2 miles from where she was found. And what was inside let she was found. And what was inside let she was found. And what was inside let police know that Alberta's [music] final police know that Alberta's [music] final police know that Alberta's [music] final moments were brutal. There were blood moments were brutal. There were blood moments were brutal. There were blood spots all over the car, but clearly spots all over the car, but clearly spots all over the car, but clearly Alberta was in the back when she was Alberta was in the back when she was Alberta was in the back when she was bleeding because there was blood over bleeding because there was blood over bleeding because there was blood over more than half of the back seat. more than half of the back seat. more than half of the back seat. Now, police found her upper dentures on Now, police found her upper dentures on Now, police found her upper dentures on the back seat floorboard along with a the back seat floorboard along with a the back seat floorboard along with a ripped piece of the newspaper that she ripped piece of the newspaper that she ripped piece of the newspaper that she had picked up that morning with Gladys. had picked up that morning with Gladys. had picked up that morning with Gladys. [music] [music] [music] It looked like the killer had actually It looked like the killer had actually It looked like the killer had actually like wiped their bloody hands on it. like wiped their bloody hands on it. like wiped their bloody hands on it. There were also small pieces of red There were also small pieces of red There were also small pieces of red brick back [music] there, some with brick back [music] there, some with brick back [music] there, some with blood on it. And there were fingerprints blood on it. And there were fingerprints blood on it. And there were fingerprints all over the car, inside and out, along all over the car, inside and out, along all over the car, inside and out, along with pieces of short and long hair that with pieces of short and long hair that with pieces of short and long hair that were inside, too.

were inside, too. were inside, too. >> I mean, this feels like a goldmine of >> I mean, this feels like a goldmine of >> I mean, this feels like a goldmine of evidence. evidence. evidence. >> Exactly, [music] >> Exactly, [music] >> Exactly, [music] which is why it is so puzzling to me which is why it is so puzzling to me which is why it is so puzzling to me that someone would take the time [music] that someone would take the time [music] that someone would take the time [music] to ditch her shoes. She was clearly in to ditch her shoes. She was clearly in to ditch her shoes. She was clearly in the car. the car. the car. >> Leave them in the car. Like you did her >> Leave them in the car. Like you did her >> Leave them in the car. Like you did her upper dentures. upper dentures. upper dentures. >> I don't know what it means, but it >> I don't know what it means, but it >> I don't know what it means, but it stands out to me. [music] stands out to me. [music] stands out to me. [music] >> And her purse was still missing? >> And her purse was still missing? >> And her purse was still missing? >> Yeah, her purse wasn't anywhere in the >> Yeah, her purse wasn't anywhere in the >> Yeah, her purse wasn't anywhere in the car. And her lower denture plate is car. And her lower denture plate is car. And her lower denture plate is still missing, too. Though, I mean, like still missing, too. Though, I mean, like still missing, too. Though, I mean, like that could have been like knocked out that could have been like knocked out that could have been like knocked out somewhere along the way or maybe even at somewhere along the way or maybe even at somewhere along the way or maybe even at the bottom of the river for all they the bottom of the river for all they the bottom of the river for all they know at that point. know at that point. know at that point. Shoes or no shoes, with what is in the Shoes or no shoes, with what is in the Shoes or no shoes, with what is in the car alone, that could solve a case car alone, that could solve a case car alone, that could solve a case if it were present day. But in the if it were present day. But in the if it were present day. But in the mid-60s, all police could do was hone in mid-60s, all police could do was hone in mid-60s, all police could do was hone in on those fingerprints and the hair on those fingerprints and the hair on those fingerprints and the hair samples and compare them to people who samples and compare them to people who samples and compare them to people who pop up in the investigation. pop up in the investigation. pop up in the investigation. And most of their investigation was And most of their investigation was And most of their investigation was pointing to the idea of some kind of pointing to the idea of some kind of pointing to the idea of some kind of robbery gone [music] wrong, right?

robbery gone [music] wrong, right? robbery gone [music] wrong, right? >> Yeah, but where would the robbers have >> Yeah, but where would the robbers have >> Yeah, but where would the robbers have crossed paths with her? Like, Gladys saw crossed paths with her? Like, Gladys saw crossed paths with her? Like, Gladys saw her get into her car to go home. her get into her car to go home. her get into her car to go home. >> Yes, but it turns out that she did head >> Yes, but it turns out that she did head >> Yes, but it turns out that she did head straight home. straight home. straight home. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> She made at least one stop at a >> She made at least one stop at a >> She made at least one stop at a convenience store a few blocks from convenience store a few blocks from convenience store a few blocks from Gladys's house. Apparently, she was a Gladys's house. Apparently, she was a Gladys's house. Apparently, she was a regular there and according to her regular there and according to her regular there and according to her sister Flora, who we spoke to for this sister Flora, who we spoke to for this sister Flora, who we spoke to for this episode, Alberta stopped there that episode, Alberta stopped there that episode, Alberta stopped there that night for a soda. night for a soda. night for a soda. And an employee said that he saw her And an employee said that he saw her And an employee said that he saw her talking to three teenagers. Now, he said talking to three teenagers. Now, he said talking to three teenagers. Now, he said nothing looked threatening, so he didn't nothing looked threatening, so he didn't nothing looked threatening, so he didn't think much of it. It's not like he's think much of it. It's not like he's think much of it. It's not like he's like focusing. He goes back to whatever like focusing. He goes back to whatever like focusing. He goes back to whatever he was doing before. But then when he he was doing before. But then when he he was doing before. But then when he looks up again, Alberta and the teens looks up again, Alberta and the teens looks up again, Alberta and the teens >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> were gone. >> were gone. >> were gone. >> And were they in a car or on foot? >> And were they in a car or on foot? >> And were they in a car or on foot? >> They're on The teens are on foot. >> They're on The teens are on foot. >> They're on The teens are on foot. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Now, those teenagers [music] have never >> Now, those teenagers [music] have never >> Now, those teenagers [music] have never been identified. And if the account is been identified. And if the account is been identified. And if the account is accurate, it might not even be relevant, accurate, it might not even be relevant, accurate, it might not even be relevant, right? But if Alberta wasn't grabbed right? But if Alberta wasn't grabbed right? But if Alberta wasn't grabbed outside of Gladys's or outside of her outside of Gladys's or outside of her outside of Gladys's or outside of her own home, then to me, this has to be the own home, then to me, this has to be the own home, then to me, this has to be the point at which someone [music] made point at which someone [music] made point at which someone [music] made contact with her. And putting these contact with her. And putting these contact with her. And putting these together with what we know about where together with what we know about where together with what we know about where her car was found and other tips that her car was found and other tips that her car was found and other tips that come in, this theory, at least to me, come in, this theory, at least to me, come in, this theory, at least to me, makes a lot of sense. Cuz when you look makes a lot of sense. Cuz when you look makes a lot of sense. Cuz when you look at a map, there is almost this like at a map, there is almost this like at a map, there is almost this like >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> trail leading west from Gladys's house >> trail leading west from Gladys's house >> trail leading west from Gladys's house to the spot in the river where Alberta to the spot in the river where Alberta to the spot in the river where Alberta is ultimately found. Like one street is ultimately found. Like one street is ultimately found. Like one street over from Gladys's place is the over from Gladys's place is the over from Gladys's place is the convenience store that she stops at convenience store that she stops at convenience store that she stops at sometime around 2:00 a.m. Another street sometime around 2:00 a.m. Another street sometime around 2:00 a.m. Another street over from that, police get a concerning over from that, police get a concerning over from that, police get a concerning call from a couple who said they'd been

call from a couple who said they'd been call from a couple who said they'd been woken up to screams around like 2:00 or woken up to screams around like 2:00 or woken up to screams around like 2:00 or 2:15 in the morning. They said when they 2:15 in the morning. They said when they 2:15 in the morning. They said when they went to their front door to see what was went to their front door to see what was went to their front door to see what was going on, they saw a man dragging a going on, they saw a man dragging a going on, they saw a man dragging a woman from the middle of the street up woman from the middle of the street up woman from the middle of the street up to what they described as a white or to what they described as a white or to what they described as a white or light-colored Ford where there was at light-colored Ford where there was at light-colored Ford where there was at least one other man waiting inside. And least one other man waiting inside. And least one other man waiting inside. And when that man pulled the woman close when that man pulled the woman close when that man pulled the woman close enough to the car, the other one like enough to the car, the other one like enough to the car, the other one like reached [music] out, pulled her inside, reached [music] out, pulled her inside, reached [music] out, pulled her inside, and then the guy outside the car grabbed and then the guy outside the car grabbed and then the guy outside the car grabbed what looked like either a purse or they what looked like either a purse or they what looked like either a purse or they said maybe a brick from the middle of said maybe a brick from the middle of said maybe a brick from the middle of the street before jumping into the car. the street before jumping into the car. the street before jumping into the car. Now, unfortunately, this couple couldn't Now, unfortunately, this couple couldn't Now, unfortunately, this couple couldn't make out much about the men, but they make out much about the men, but they make out much about the men, but they said that the car sped off west through said that the car sped off west through said that the car sped off west through a viaduct that heads towards the river a viaduct that heads towards the river a viaduct that heads towards the river and the bridge. and the bridge. and the bridge. >> has to be Alberta. >> has to be Alberta. >> has to be Alberta. >> I think so, too. Especially because this >> I think so, too. Especially because this >> I think so, too. Especially because this location where the couple saw this location where the couple saw this location where the couple saw this disturbance, [music] disturbance, [music] disturbance, [music] this is only two blocks away from where this is only two blocks away from where this is only two blocks away from where Alberta's car ended up being found. Alberta's car ended up being found. Alberta's car ended up being found. Like, again, you just go a couple of Like, again, you just go a couple of Like, again, you just go a couple of blocks even farther west, there's the blocks even farther west, there's the blocks even farther west, there's the car. Go farther west, there's the car. Go farther west, there's the car. Go farther west, there's the bridge.

bridge. bridge. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> But if this was Alberta, then where they >> But if this was Alberta, then where they >> But if this was Alberta, then where they went in the car is a big mystery. went in the car is a big mystery. went in the car is a big mystery. Because [music] Because [music] Because [music] from Gladys's house to the bridge is from Gladys's house to the bridge is from Gladys's house to the bridge is only about 4 miles. only about 4 miles. only about 4 miles. From the bridge to where the car is From the bridge to where the car is From the bridge to where the car is found, that's about three. Round trip, found, that's about three. Round trip, found, that's about three. Round trip, you're talking you're talking you're talking >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> seven or eight miles. Add a few miles to >> seven or eight miles. Add a few miles to >> seven or eight miles. Add a few miles to account for Alberta picking up the car. account for Alberta picking up the car. account for Alberta picking up the car. She picked that up at like 6:00 p.m. She picked that up at like 6:00 p.m. She picked that up at like 6:00 p.m. that day. She picks it up, drives it that day. She picks it up, drives it that day. She picks it up, drives it home. She drives to Gladys's the same home. She drives to Gladys's the same home. She drives to Gladys's the same night. They car to Kingfisher back. night. They car to Kingfisher back. night. They car to Kingfisher back. Like, fine. All told, say she did 15 to Like, fine. All told, say she did 15 to Like, fine. All told, say she did 15 to 20 miles if you want to be like really 20 miles if you want to be like really 20 miles if you want to be like really generous. generous. generous. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> Interestingly, when police compare the >> Interestingly, when police compare the >> Interestingly, when police compare the odometer to the mileage log when Alberta odometer to the mileage log when Alberta odometer to the mileage log when Alberta picked up the car, it said that 51 miles picked up the car, it said that 51 miles picked up the car, it said that 51 miles had been driven. So, where did the car had been driven. So, where did the car had been driven. So, where did the car go? go? go? And when? And when? And when? >> And do we have any sense for when the >> And do we have any sense for when the >> And do we have any sense for when the car got dumped where they eventually car got dumped where they eventually car got dumped where they eventually found it? found it? found it? >> We do. So, even though the car wasn't >> We do. So, even though the car wasn't >> We do. So, even though the car wasn't reported until Friday the 6th, witnesses reported until Friday the 6th, witnesses reported until Friday the 6th, witnesses seeing the car at that same spot as seeing the car at that same spot as seeing the car at that same spot as early as Thursday morning. So, we have early as Thursday morning. So, we have early as Thursday morning. So, we have somebody who puts it there the 5th at somebody who puts it there the 5th at somebody who puts it there the 5th at [music] like 6:00 a.m. at the latest.

[music] like 6:00 a.m. at the latest. [music] like 6:00 a.m. at the latest. And police docs say that it hadn't been And police docs say that it hadn't been And police docs say that it hadn't been moved after that. So, moved after that. So, moved after that. So, really, that gives us like a 12-hour really, that gives us like a 12-hour really, that gives us like a 12-hour window from when she picks up the car on window from when she picks up the car on window from when she picks up the car on the 4th at 6:00 p.m. to when it's the 4th at 6:00 p.m. to when it's the 4th at 6:00 p.m. to when it's abandoned on the 5th at 6:00 a.m. abandoned on the 5th at 6:00 a.m. abandoned on the 5th at 6:00 a.m. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> In that 12-hour window, 51 miles had to >> In that 12-hour window, 51 miles had to >> In that 12-hour window, 51 miles had to have been driven. And we know she's last have been driven. And we know she's last have been driven. And we know she's last seen alive at around 2:00 a.m. I really seen alive at around 2:00 a.m. I really seen alive at around 2:00 a.m. I really don't think she drove all those miles. don't think she drove all those miles. don't think she drove all those miles. [music] Like I said, unless there is a [music] Like I said, unless there is a [music] Like I said, unless there is a part of her night that's unaccounted part of her night that's unaccounted part of her night that's unaccounted for, I'm looking at like a high end of for, I'm looking at like a high end of for, I'm looking at like a high end of 20 for her up until she's seen at 2:00 20 for her up until she's seen at 2:00 20 for her up until she's seen at 2:00 a.m. a.m. a.m. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Where else did the car go to put on the >> Where else did the car go to put on the >> Where else did the car go to put on the additional 20 plus miles? additional 20 plus miles? additional 20 plus miles? Somewhere Somewhere Somewhere >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> in Indiana maybe? >> in Indiana maybe? >> in Indiana maybe? That would explain all the weird bridge That would explain all the weird bridge That would explain all the weird bridge stuff. But the thing is like all that's stuff. But the thing is like all that's stuff. But the thing is like all that's happening seems to be happening in this happening seems to be happening in this happening seems to be happening in this >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> concentrated part of downtown >> concentrated part of downtown >> concentrated part of downtown Louisville. So, it's no surprise that Louisville. So, it's no surprise that Louisville. So, it's no surprise that police really focused in on that area police really focused in on that area police really focused in on that area between where the couple heard screaming between where the couple heard screaming between where the couple heard screaming and where her car was found. [music] and where her car was found. [music] and where her car was found. [music] And there was actually this pair of And there was actually this pair of And there was actually this pair of brothers that they latch on to, one of brothers that they latch on to, one of brothers that they latch on to, one of whom was rumored to rob people by whom was rumored to rob people by whom was rumored to rob people by jumping into their cars and beating jumping into their cars and beating jumping into their cars and beating them. Apparently a tip gets called in to them. Apparently a tip gets called in to them. Apparently a tip gets called in to police that led them to these brothers police that led them to these brothers police that led them to these brothers in the first place. Someone told in the first place. Someone told in the first place. Someone told investigators that one of the brothers investigators that one of the brothers investigators that one of the brothers was seen driving Alberta's rental car.

was seen driving Alberta's rental car. was seen driving Alberta's rental car. And I think the police like got blinded And I think the police like got blinded And I think the police like got blinded by this because like in their mind like by this because like in their mind like by this because like in their mind like all the pieces fit like almost too well, all the pieces fit like almost too well, all the pieces fit like almost too well, right area, right MO, her purse is still right area, right MO, her purse is still right area, right MO, her purse is still gone, right? Has to be [music] it. And gone, right? Has to be [music] it. And gone, right? Has to be [music] it. And when police got the brothers hooked up when police got the brothers hooked up when police got the brothers hooked up to a polygraph, to a polygraph, to a polygraph, they end up failing. And so they're even they end up failing. And so they're even they end up failing. And so they're even more sure that they're on the right more sure that they're on the right more sure that they're on the right trail. But what it took to get the trail. But what it took to get the trail. But what it took to get the failed polygraph, failed polygraph, failed polygraph, not on the up and up. not on the up and up. not on the up and up. The brothers denied having anything to The brothers denied having anything to The brothers denied having anything to do with Alberta's death, and one of them do with Alberta's death, and one of them do with Alberta's death, and one of them said that they [music] failed because said that they [music] failed because said that they [music] failed because they took the polygraph after being they took the polygraph after being they took the polygraph after being beaten and interrogated. [music] beaten and interrogated. [music] beaten and interrogated. [music] He said that he was driving a white car He said that he was driving a white car He said that he was driving a white car around the time Alberta died, but it around the time Alberta died, but it around the time Alberta died, but it wasn't Alberta's rental, which police wasn't Alberta's rental, which police wasn't Alberta's rental, which police confirmed to be true. And when they confirmed to be true. And when they confirmed to be true. And when they compare these brothers' prints to all of compare these brothers' prints to all of compare these brothers' prints to all of the prints from Alberta's rental, the prints from Alberta's rental, the prints from Alberta's rental, neither of theirs match any of them. neither of theirs match any of them. neither of theirs match any of them. [music] And when the tipster, who [music] And when the tipster, who [music] And when the tipster, who offered them up in the first place, ends offered them up in the first place, ends offered them up in the first place, ends up getting like really scrutinized, it up getting like really scrutinized, it up getting like really scrutinized, it came to light that they only gave these came to light that they only gave these came to light that they only gave these brothers names with some like weird brothers names with some like weird brothers names with some like weird scheme in mind about police helping a scheme in mind about police helping a scheme in mind about police helping a relative of theirs like get out of some relative of theirs like get out of some relative of theirs like get out of some legal trouble. Like it was like all legal trouble. Like it was like all legal trouble. Like it was like all nonsense.

nonsense. nonsense. >> quid pro quo for the tip? >> quid pro quo for the tip? >> quid pro quo for the tip? >> I guess. >> I guess. >> I guess. It's very confusing logic. But it meant It's very confusing logic. But it meant It's very confusing logic. But it meant that [music] any evidence of the that [music] any evidence of the that [music] any evidence of the brothers being involved fell apart. And brothers being involved fell apart. And brothers being involved fell apart. And then police had no choice but to rule then police had no choice but to rule then police had no choice but to rule them out. Problem was there was no one them out. Problem was there was no one them out. Problem was there was no one else to rule in. A look at those closest else to rule in. A look at those closest else to rule in. A look at those closest to Alberta hadn't revealed a suspect. to Alberta hadn't revealed a suspect. to Alberta hadn't revealed a suspect. [music] I mean her boyfriend is ruled [music] I mean her boyfriend is ruled [music] I mean her boyfriend is ruled out. They had a good relationship, so out. They had a good relationship, so out. They had a good relationship, so there was like no motive. His prints there was like no motive. His prints there was like no motive. His prints [music] didn't match the ones found in [music] didn't match the ones found in [music] didn't match the ones found in the Ford, and he was home with his the Ford, and he was home with his the Ford, and he was home with his mother in the early morning hours that mother in the early morning hours that mother in the early morning hours that Alberta was killed. Police also looked Alberta was killed. Police also looked Alberta was killed. Police also looked into people Alberta prosecuted or who into people Alberta prosecuted or who into people Alberta prosecuted or who were unsatisfied clients thinking maybe were unsatisfied clients thinking maybe were unsatisfied clients thinking maybe someone held some kind of grudge against someone held some kind of grudge against someone held some kind of grudge against her. But that didn't lead anywhere her. But that didn't lead anywhere her. But that didn't lead anywhere either. So, the theory that seemed the either. So, the theory that seemed the either. So, the theory that seemed the most plausible at the time was that this most plausible at the time was that this most plausible at the time was that this was a robbery gone wrong. Someone must was a robbery gone wrong. Someone must was a robbery gone wrong. Someone must have just spotted Alberta, pegged her as have just spotted Alberta, pegged her as have just spotted Alberta, pegged her as an easy target to take whatever money an easy target to take whatever money an easy target to take whatever money she had on her in her purse. And she had on her in her purse. And she had on her in her purse. And >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> you know, it's always hard to solve a >> you know, it's always hard to solve a >> you know, it's always hard to solve a stranger attack like that. But maybe one stranger attack like that. But maybe one stranger attack like that. But maybe one day the prints on her car would turn up day the prints on her car would turn up day the prints on her car would turn up a match. Or maybe a match. Or maybe a match. Or maybe >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> they would find her missing purse.

>> they would find her missing purse. >> they would find her missing purse. The truth was The truth was The truth was both things [music] would end up both things [music] would end up both things [music] would end up happening. happening. happening. But when they did, it didn't confirm But when they did, it didn't confirm But when they did, it didn't confirm their theories. It actually completely their theories. It actually completely their theories. It actually completely threw them on their head and introduced threw them on their head and introduced threw them on their head and introduced possibilities of conspiracy and possibilities of conspiracy and possibilities of conspiracy and cover-up. >> 911 emergency. >> 911 emergency. >> For 40 minutes, a man held six women >> For 40 minutes, a man held six women >> For 40 minutes, a man held six women captive inside a Lane Bryant store in captive inside a Lane Bryant store in captive inside a Lane Bryant store in Tinley Park, Illinois. Five were Tinley Park, Illinois. Five were Tinley Park, Illinois. Five were executed and the killer escaped. executed and the killer escaped. executed and the killer escaped. >> The search continues for the gunman. >> The search continues for the gunman. >> The search continues for the gunman. >> Authorities have his face, voice, and >> Authorities have his face, voice, and >> Authorities have his face, voice, and possible DNA, but 18 years later, this possible DNA, but 18 years later, this possible DNA, but 18 years later, this case is still unsolved. [music] case is still unsolved. [music] case is still unsolved. [music] >> There was no doubt in my mind that we >> There was no doubt in my mind that we >> There was no doubt in my mind that we were going to get this guy, and I was were going to get this guy, and I was were going to get this guy, and I was wrong. wrong. wrong. >> I'm Dilia D'Ambra, and this is [music] >> I'm Dilia D'Ambra, and this is [music] >> I'm Dilia D'Ambra, and this is [music] CounterClock season 8. Listen now CounterClock season 8. Listen now CounterClock season 8. Listen now wherever you get your podcasts. Three years passed after Alberta's Three years passed after Alberta's murder without [music] an arrest or murder without [music] an arrest or murder without [music] an arrest or really any new updates. But then, on really any new updates. But then, on really any new updates. But then, on July 16th, 1968, [music] a group of boys playing on the lower a group of boys playing on the lower level of the Sherman Minton Bridge level of the Sherman Minton Bridge level of the Sherman Minton Bridge [music] [music] [music] found something that changed this entire found something that changed this entire found something that changed this entire case.

case. case. When they leaned over the ledge, they When they leaned over the ledge, they When they leaned over the ledge, they saw this black [music] saw this black [music] saw this black [music] leather purse tucked into this like hole leather purse tucked into this like hole leather purse tucked into this like hole on one of the steel braces. It wasn't on one of the steel braces. It wasn't on one of the steel braces. It wasn't even hard to get to or to grab, so they even hard to get to or to grab, so they even hard to get to or to grab, so they did. And inside was a check, [music] did. And inside was a check, [music] did. And inside was a check, [music] keyrings, lipstick, a lower dental keyrings, lipstick, a lower dental keyrings, lipstick, a lower dental plate, and the ID for Alberta O. Jones. plate, and the ID for Alberta O. Jones. plate, and the ID for Alberta O. Jones. >> Did they not search the bridge 3 years >> Did they not search the bridge 3 years >> Did they not search the bridge 3 years ago? ago? ago? >> I don't know how well they did or didn't >> I don't know how well they did or didn't >> I don't know how well they did or didn't search [music] the bridge, search [music] the bridge, search [music] the bridge, but I don't think that matters because but I don't think that matters because but I don't think that matters because I actually don't think the purse had I actually don't think the purse had I actually don't think the purse had been there for 3 [music] been there for 3 [music] been there for 3 [music] years. years. years. >> What do you mean? >> What do you mean? >> What do you mean? >> But where it was, it's not like in this >> But where it was, it's not like in this >> But where it was, it's not like in this enclosed area or anything. It's like enclosed area or anything. It's like enclosed area or anything. It's like >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> right out there in the open, exposed to >> right out there in the open, exposed to >> right out there in the open, exposed to rain, to snow, every other flavor of rain, to snow, every other flavor of rain, to snow, every other flavor of unpredictable Midwest weather that you unpredictable Midwest weather that you unpredictable Midwest weather that you can think of. And this thing, the can think of. And this thing, the can think of. And this thing, the contents in it, like it did not seem contents in it, like it did not seem contents in it, like it did not seem weather worn, which makes me think weather worn, which makes me think weather worn, which makes me think [music] someone put it there. Someone [music] someone put it there. Someone [music] someone put it there. Someone wanted it to be found.

wanted it to be found. wanted it to be found. >> Was it by where her shoes were tossed >> Was it by where her shoes were tossed >> Was it by where her shoes were tossed off the bridge or where they like think off the bridge or where they like think off the bridge or where they like think they were tossed? they were tossed? they were tossed? >> that's the thing, too. Both are placed >> that's the thing, too. Both are placed >> that's the thing, too. Both are placed or thrown from the lower level. We know or thrown from the lower level. We know or thrown from the lower level. We know that, the one that goes from Indiana to that, the one that goes from Indiana to that, the one that goes from Indiana to Kentucky. But, the purse is placed Kentucky. But, the purse is placed Kentucky. But, the purse is placed closer to the Indiana side. closer to the Indiana side. closer to the Indiana side. >> beginning of the bridge? >> beginning of the bridge? >> beginning of the bridge? >> Like when you're getting on, and then >> Like when you're getting on, and then >> Like when you're getting on, and then the shoes were tossed on like as you're the shoes were tossed on like as you're the shoes were tossed on like as you're getting off on the Kentucky side. So, getting off on the Kentucky side. So, getting off on the Kentucky side. So, >> if it was placed like why [music] >> if it was placed like why [music] >> if it was placed like why [music] now? now? now? >> That's the question I can't answer. Like >> That's the question I can't answer. Like >> That's the question I can't answer. Like I said, there weren't many developments I said, there weren't many developments I said, there weren't many developments in this case, and honestly, it wasn't in this case, and honestly, it wasn't in this case, and honestly, it wasn't even like major news anymore. So, it's even like major news anymore. So, it's even like major news anymore. So, it's not like they were close to arresting not like they were close to arresting not like they were close to arresting someone, or like, you know, someone's someone, or like, you know, someone's someone, or like, you know, someone's trying to like lead them somewhere. So, trying to like lead them somewhere. So, trying to like lead them somewhere. So, yeah, why now? Was someone feeling yeah, why now? Was someone feeling yeah, why now? Was someone feeling guilty? Was this a clue? Was it possible guilty? Was this a clue? Was it possible guilty? Was this a clue? Was it possible that someone was trying to subtly tell that someone was trying to subtly tell that someone was trying to subtly tell people that they needed to look back at people that they needed to look back at people that they needed to look back at the bridge for answers? the bridge for answers? the bridge for answers? >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> Because there was actually a clue early >> Because there was actually a clue early >> Because there was actually a clue early on that involved the bridge in this on that involved the bridge in this on that involved the bridge in this [music] case. A witness who saw [music] case. A witness who saw [music] case. A witness who saw something very strange that seemingly something very strange that seemingly something very strange that seemingly just got overlooked, or maybe tossed just got overlooked, or maybe tossed just got overlooked, or maybe tossed aside as insignificant. But, I have a aside as insignificant. But, I have a aside as insignificant. But, I have a hunch of why that was. So, you see, hunch of why that was. So, you see, hunch of why that was. So, you see, within a week of Alberta's murder, within a week of Alberta's murder, within a week of Alberta's murder, Louisville police had set up roadblocks Louisville police had set up roadblocks Louisville police had set up roadblocks on both the Kentucky and Indiana on both the Kentucky and Indiana on both the Kentucky and Indiana on-ramps of the bridge. They were on-ramps of the bridge. They were on-ramps of the bridge. They were stopping motorists, asking if anyone had stopping motorists, asking if anyone had stopping motorists, asking if anyone had seen anything suspicious the night of seen anything suspicious the night of seen anything suspicious the night of Alberta's murder. They talked to like Alberta's murder. They talked to like Alberta's murder. They talked to like 222 motorists in total.

222 motorists in total. 222 motorists in total. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> And one of them, a guy named Peter >> And one of them, a guy named Peter >> And one of them, a guy named Peter Baker, said that he actually was on the Baker, said that he actually was on the Baker, said that he actually was on the bridge that morning. He worked super bridge that morning. He worked super bridge that morning. He worked super early because Mr. Baker worked at a early because Mr. Baker worked at a early because Mr. Baker worked at a bakery. bakery. bakery. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> So, he was in his truck on the bridge >> So, he was in his truck on the bridge >> So, he was in his truck on the bridge with a co-worker at like 4:35 a.m. with a co-worker at like 4:35 a.m. with a co-worker at like 4:35 a.m. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> And he says that he saw a white car >> And he says that he saw a white car >> And he says that he saw a white car stopped at the center of the bridge. And stopped at the center of the bridge. And stopped at the center of the bridge. And his co-worker, Robert Bostock, his co-worker, Robert Bostock, his co-worker, Robert Bostock, remembered it, too. Though, he remembered it, too. Though, he remembered it, too. Though, he remembered it being a little closer to remembered it being a little closer to remembered it being a little closer to the exit ramp into Kentucky. Either way, the exit ramp into Kentucky. Either way, the exit ramp into Kentucky. Either way, they both remembered that the white car they both remembered that the white car they both remembered that the white car wasn't alone out there. Pulled up behind wasn't alone out there. Pulled up behind wasn't alone out there. Pulled up behind it was [music] a marked Louisville it was [music] a marked Louisville it was [music] a marked Louisville police car. Now, they didn't see anyone police car. Now, they didn't see anyone police car. Now, they didn't see anyone outside of the cars, and remember, it's outside of the cars, and remember, it's outside of the cars, and remember, it's estimated that Alberta went into the estimated that Alberta went into the estimated that Alberta went into the river between 2:30 and 4:30. So, this river between 2:30 and 4:30. So, this river between 2:30 and 4:30. So, this was like was like was like >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> just outside of that window. >> just outside of that window. >> just outside of that window. >> Okay, by 5 minutes though. >> Okay, by 5 minutes though. >> Okay, by 5 minutes though. >> I know. But, there were two other people >> I know. But, there were two other people >> I know. But, there were two other people that they found who say that they were that they found who say that they were that they found who say that they were on the bridge that morning, too, from on the bridge that morning, too, from on the bridge that morning, too, from like 4:00 to 4:30, and they say that like 4:00 to 4:30, and they say that like 4:00 to 4:30, and they say that they didn't see any cars. So, it seems they didn't see any cars. So, it seems they didn't see any cars. So, it seems to be concluded that Alberta was already to be concluded that Alberta was already to be concluded that Alberta was already in the river at that point. And if this in the river at that point. And if this in the river at that point. And if this was her car, she wasn't in it.

was her car, she wasn't in it. was her car, she wasn't in it. >> Okay, well, who's that officer who was >> Okay, well, who's that officer who was >> Okay, well, who's that officer who was stopped on the bridge? Like, what do stopped on the bridge? Like, what do stopped on the bridge? Like, what do they have to say? they have to say? they have to say? >> No one ever cops to it being [music] >> No one ever cops to it being [music] >> No one ever cops to it being [music] them. So, if it's real, right? them. So, if it's real, right? them. So, if it's real, right? >> Okay, then then they have something to >> Okay, then then they have something to >> Okay, then then they have something to hide. hide. hide. >> But, what? Now, the timing is >> But, what? Now, the timing is >> But, what? Now, the timing is interesting to me because if she went interesting to me because if she went interesting to me because if she went into the river before the car was on the into the river before the car was on the into the river before the car was on the bridge, then why did they go into bridge, then why did they go into bridge, then why did they go into Indiana in the first place? Indiana in the first place? Indiana in the first place? >> And why did they stop on the way back? >> And why did they stop on the way back? >> And why did they stop on the way back? >> Right. Like, >> Right. Like, >> Right. Like, throw the shoes anywhere. Like, surely throw the shoes anywhere. Like, surely throw the shoes anywhere. Like, surely there's a more inconspicuous way to get there's a more inconspicuous way to get there's a more inconspicuous way to get rid of them. Throw them in Indiana. rid of them. Throw them in Indiana. rid of them. Throw them in Indiana. Exactly. [laughter] Exactly. [laughter] Exactly. [laughter] >> And like, >> And like, >> And like, two cars wouldn't necessarily need to two cars wouldn't necessarily need to two cars wouldn't necessarily need to stop like for that, right? stop like for that, right? stop like for that, right? >> Right. Right. It's not like you can say >> Right. Right. It's not like you can say >> Right. Right. It's not like you can say like, oh, the white car was like pulled like, oh, the white car was like pulled like, oh, the white car was like pulled over and a police officer just like over and a police officer just like over and a police officer just like stopped to see what was going on because stopped to see what was going on because stopped to see what was going on because like something it looked suspicious or like something it looked suspicious or like something it looked suspicious or whatever because like, again, why isn't whatever because like, again, why isn't whatever because like, again, why isn't that officer come forward and be like, that officer come forward and be like, that officer come forward and be like, "I actually pulled someone over on the "I actually pulled someone over on the "I actually pulled someone over on the bridge." B, if the officer stopped and bridge." B, if the officer stopped and bridge." B, if the officer stopped and had no idea of the situation, like they had no idea of the situation, like they had no idea of the situation, like they would have like seen the bloody back would have like seen the bloody back would have like seen the bloody back seat, and that would have been cause for seat, and that would have been cause for seat, and that would have been cause for concern.

concern. concern. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Cuz if Alberta is already dead, that >> Cuz if Alberta is already dead, that >> Cuz if Alberta is already dead, that back seat is covered in blood. If that back seat is covered in blood. If that back seat is covered in blood. If that was Alberta's car, and if there was a was Alberta's car, and if there was a was Alberta's car, and if there was a Louisville police car stopped behind it Louisville police car stopped behind it Louisville police car stopped behind it that morning, the only way this makes that morning, the only way this makes that morning, the only way this makes sense is if whoever was in the police sense is if whoever was in the police sense is if whoever was in the police car car car knows what happened. knows what happened. knows what happened. >> Or was involved in what happened. >> Or was involved in what happened. >> Or was involved in what happened. >> And the more you dig into this angle the >> And the more you dig into this angle the >> And the more you dig into this angle the more you'll realize that there is more you'll realize that there is more you'll realize that there is something [music] something [music] something [music] that really stinks here. Going all the that really stinks here. Going all the that really stinks here. Going all the way back to the beginning, like this car way back to the beginning, like this car way back to the beginning, like this car tip that was dismissed. tip that was dismissed. tip that was dismissed. Early in the investigation, so before Early in the investigation, so before Early in the investigation, so before police spoke to Gladys or anyone in police spoke to Gladys or anyone in police spoke to Gladys or anyone in Alberta's family, there was this senior Alberta's family, there was this senior Alberta's family, there was this senior Louisville police officer who seemed to Louisville police officer who seemed to Louisville police officer who seemed to know like more than he should. know like more than he should. know like more than he should. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> So, the missing person report that her >> So, the missing person report that her >> So, the missing person report that her family put in, it didn't name Gladys and family put in, it didn't name Gladys and family put in, it didn't name Gladys and it didn't have any details about it didn't have any details about it didn't have any details about Alberta's movements with Gladys that Alberta's movements with Gladys that Alberta's movements with Gladys that night. night. night. Yet, this guy somehow knows about Yet, this guy somehow knows about Yet, this guy somehow knows about Gladys, knows that Gladys called Alberta Gladys, knows that Gladys called Alberta Gladys, knows that Gladys called Alberta to come over, knows that they went out to come over, knows that they went out to come over, knows that they went out to eat before he had ever spoken to to eat before he had ever spoken to to eat before he had ever spoken to Gladys or anyone in Alberta's family.

Gladys or anyone in Alberta's family. Gladys or anyone in Alberta's family. >> How? >> How? >> How? >> Nobody ever really explains this or even >> Nobody ever really explains this or even >> Nobody ever really explains this or even seems to think it's like as weird as seems to think it's like as weird as seems to think it's like as weird as Alberta's family does. Alberta's family does. Alberta's family does. >> I do. >> I do. >> I do. >> Same, but >> Same, but >> Same, but it's just like glossed over. it's just like glossed over. it's just like glossed over. >> So, he's either involved or >> So, he's either involved or >> So, he's either involved or talking to the people who are involved. talking to the people who are involved. talking to the people who are involved. >> Or option C, someone was following >> Or option C, someone was following >> Or option C, someone was following Alberta that [music] night, whether they Alberta that [music] night, whether they Alberta that [music] night, whether they were involved or not. And that is not a were involved or not. And that is not a were involved or not. And that is not a far-fetched idea because people had been far-fetched idea because people had been far-fetched idea because people had been following Alberta in the time leading up following Alberta in the time leading up following Alberta in the time leading up to her death. So, remember I told you to her death. So, remember I told you to her death. So, remember I told you that she had been scared recently that she had been scared recently that she had been scared recently because of her work. Well, there's a lot because of her work. Well, there's a lot because of her work. Well, there's a lot that went into that. Alberta had just that went into that. Alberta had just that went into that. Alberta had just become the first black [music] female become the first black [music] female become the first black [music] female prosecutor in Louisville history. prosecutor in Louisville history. prosecutor in Louisville history. Remember, this is 1965, so I'm sure some Remember, this is 1965, so I'm sure some Remember, this is 1965, so I'm sure some people weren't too happy about that. And people weren't too happy about that. And people weren't too happy about that. And even before that job, Alberta was even before that job, Alberta was even before that job, Alberta was heavily involved in the city's civil heavily involved in the city's civil heavily involved in the city's civil rights movement. She [music] was rights movement. She [music] was rights movement. She [music] was breaking barrier after barrier and she breaking barrier after barrier and she breaking barrier after barrier and she was one of the the black students who was one of the the black students who was one of the the black students who attended the University of Louisville, attended the University of Louisville, attended the University of Louisville, and she was considered the first black and she was considered the first black and she was considered the first black woman to pass the Kentucky bar exam. And woman to pass the Kentucky bar exam. And woman to pass the Kentucky bar exam. And importantly, she was passionate about importantly, she was passionate about importantly, she was passionate about registering black citizens to vote. So, registering black citizens to vote. So, registering black citizens to vote. So, she co-founded the Independent Voters she co-founded the Independent Voters she co-founded the Independent Voters Association and helped register roughly Association and helped register roughly Association and helped register roughly 6,000 black voters in Louisville.

6,000 black voters in Louisville. 6,000 black voters in Louisville. And she was a major part of the group And she was a major part of the group And she was a major part of the group that helped oust Louisville's mayor in that helped oust Louisville's mayor in that helped oust Louisville's mayor in 1961 and establish new laws against 1961 and establish new laws against 1961 and establish new laws against racial discrimination. She had such a racial discrimination. She had such a racial discrimination. She had such a great reputation that Muhammad Ali great reputation that Muhammad Ali great reputation that Muhammad Ali relied on her to negotiate his first relied on her to negotiate his first relied on her to negotiate his first professional contract. professional contract. professional contract. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> But all of that made her a target. >> But all of that made her a target. >> But all of that made her a target. [music] [music] [music] Alberta's family noticed that Alberta Alberta's family noticed that Alberta Alberta's family noticed that Alberta was becoming paranoid in the months was becoming paranoid in the months was becoming paranoid in the months leading up to her death. And I honestly leading up to her death. And I honestly leading up to her death. And I honestly hate that word because like paranoid hate that word because like paranoid hate that word because like paranoid makes it almost sound like this was like makes it almost sound like this was like makes it almost sound like this was like a all in her head or whatever. But like a all in her head or whatever. But like a all in her head or whatever. But like these were very real things that were these were very real things that were these were very real things that were happening to her before her death. happening to her before her death. happening to her before her death. Alberta told her family about being Alberta told her family about being Alberta told her family about being followed and about people hitting her followed and about people hitting her followed and about people hitting her car, leaving scrapes. [music] car, leaving scrapes. [music] car, leaving scrapes. [music] It felt really intentional to her. And It felt really intentional to her. And It felt really intentional to her. And Flora said she knew for a fact herself Flora said she knew for a fact herself Flora said she knew for a fact herself that Alberta wasn't just imagining that Alberta wasn't just imagining that Alberta wasn't just imagining things because one night in May of 1965, things because one night in May of 1965, things because one night in May of 1965, this is like 3 months before Alberta this is like 3 months before Alberta this is like 3 months before Alberta died, Flora was actually driving died, Flora was actually driving died, Flora was actually driving Alberta's car, remember, distinctive Alberta's car, remember, distinctive Alberta's car, remember, distinctive car, car, car, and she saw this car following her, like and she saw this car following her, like and she saw this car following her, like making every turn, every stop. And Flora making every turn, every stop. And Flora making every turn, every stop. And Flora finally pulled over and confronted this finally pulled over and confronted this finally pulled over and confronted this other driver, and she said, "In the car other driver, and she said, "In the car other driver, and she said, "In the car were two white men, and they showed her were two white men, and they showed her were two white men, and they showed her a police badge."

a police badge." a police badge." >> Louisville? >> Louisville? >> Louisville? >> PD? >> PD? >> PD? >> That's what she thought. And she said >> That's what she thought. And she said >> That's what she thought. And she said the men just laughed before speeding the men just laughed before speeding the men just laughed before speeding off. [music] But later, it occurred to off. [music] But later, it occurred to off. [music] But later, it occurred to Flora they weren't following her. Flora they weren't following her. Flora they weren't following her. They were following the pink They were following the pink They were following the pink Thunderbird. They thought she was Thunderbird. They thought she was Thunderbird. They thought she was Alberta. Yes. Alberta. Yes. Alberta. Yes. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> And Flora also remembered one day when >> And Flora also remembered one day when >> And Flora also remembered one day when Alberta was talking on the phone to one Alberta was talking on the phone to one Alberta was talking on the phone to one of her [music] friends. And then when of her [music] friends. And then when of her [music] friends. And then when they hung up, the phone rang again. And they hung up, the phone rang again. And they hung up, the phone rang again. And when Alberta picked it up, it was a when Alberta picked it up, it was a when Alberta picked it up, it was a man's voice on the other end joking man's voice on the other end joking man's voice on the other end joking about the conversation she had just been about the conversation she had just been about the conversation she had just been having. Like, he heard the entire thing. having. Like, he heard the entire thing. having. Like, he heard the entire thing. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> And so, Alberta was convinced that >> And so, Alberta was convinced that >> And so, Alberta was convinced that someone had tapped her phone. someone had tapped her phone. someone had tapped her phone. >> Okay, that feels like way bigger than >> Okay, that feels like way bigger than >> Okay, that feels like way bigger than the LPD. the LPD. the LPD. >> I mean, declassified records show that >> I mean, declassified records show that >> I mean, declassified records show that the CIA, along with other US agencies, the CIA, along with other US agencies, the CIA, along with other US agencies, spied on Martin Luther King Jr. There spied on Martin Luther King Jr. There spied on Martin Luther King Jr. There was a vested government interest in was a vested government interest in was a vested government interest in stopping equality movements that Alberta stopping equality movements that Alberta stopping equality movements that Alberta was a part of. And listen, the very was a part of. And listen, the very was a part of. And listen, the very night that Alberta went to see Gladys, night that Alberta went to see Gladys, night that Alberta went to see Gladys, Alberta was apparently reading about the Alberta was apparently reading about the Alberta was apparently reading about the Kennedy assassination. Kennedy assassination. Kennedy assassination. And Alberta said, [music] that very And Alberta said, [music] that very And Alberta said, [music] that very night, she hoped that she wouldn't end night, she hoped that she wouldn't end night, she hoped that she wouldn't end up like him.

up like him. up like him. After Alberta died, Flora said that the After Alberta died, Flora said that the After Alberta died, Flora said that the family learned Alberta had just gotten a family learned Alberta had just gotten a family learned Alberta had just gotten a burglar alarm put on her car. burglar alarm put on her car. burglar alarm put on her car. And she had apparently bought a gun. And she had apparently bought a gun. And she had apparently bought a gun. >> Put on the car that was in the shop that >> Put on the car that was in the shop that >> Put on the car that was in the shop that one night. [music] one night. [music] one night. [music] >> Yeah. And it's not lost on me that so >> Yeah. And it's not lost on me that so >> Yeah. And it's not lost on me that so much of this mystery surrounded the much of this mystery surrounded the much of this mystery surrounded the bridge connecting Kentucky to Indiana. bridge connecting Kentucky to Indiana. bridge connecting Kentucky to Indiana. Because Indiana had a resurgence of the Because Indiana had a resurgence of the Because Indiana had a resurgence of the KKK in the 1960s. Remember, there's 51 KKK in the 1960s. Remember, there's 51 KKK in the 1960s. Remember, there's 51 miles on that car. The purse is found on miles on that car. The purse is found on miles on that car. The purse is found on the Indiana side. the Indiana side. the Indiana side. There seems to be some tie to Indiana. I There seems to be some tie to Indiana. I There seems to be some tie to Indiana. I just don't know what it is. just don't know what it is. just don't know what it is. >> Were there any Indiana people that >> Were there any Indiana people that >> Were there any Indiana people that showed up in the case file at all? showed up in the case file at all? showed up in the case file at all? >> Not No, not in like a meaningful way. >> Not No, not in like a meaningful way. >> Not No, not in like a meaningful way. But like, I don't know how much I But like, I don't know how much I But like, I don't know how much I actually trust the file. Because actually trust the file. Because actually trust the file. Because this idea that Alberta could have been this idea that Alberta could have been this idea that Alberta could have been targeted, the glaring reality that this, targeted, the glaring reality that this, targeted, the glaring reality that this, more than anything else, makes the most more than anything else, makes the most more than anything else, makes the most sense for a motive, sense for a motive, sense for a motive, it seems to have been like totally it seems to have been like totally it seems to have been like totally ignored. I mean, despite the deceptively ignored. I mean, despite the deceptively ignored. I mean, despite the deceptively large case file, I don't think this case large case file, I don't think this case large case file, I don't think this case was truly worked. [music] I think a lot was truly worked. [music] I think a lot was truly worked. [music] I think a lot of work was done, but it all feels like of work was done, but it all feels like of work was done, but it all feels like [music] a distraction. They spent so [music] a distraction. They spent so [music] a distraction. They spent so much time on a robbery, maybe even tried much time on a robbery, maybe even tried much time on a robbery, maybe even tried shady tactics early on to get a shady tactics early on to get a shady tactics early on to get a confession.

confession. confession. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> I mean, there was a point when they >> I mean, there was a point when they >> I mean, there was a point when they accused Alberta of being Gladys' lover, accused Alberta of being Gladys' lover, accused Alberta of being Gladys' lover, but it was like all nonsense. This but it was like all nonsense. This but it was like all nonsense. This running around in circles addressing running around in circles addressing running around in circles addressing anything but the elephant in the room. anything but the elephant in the room. anything but the elephant in the room. It did. It led to a lot of work being It did. It led to a lot of work being It did. It led to a lot of work being done on this case, but for who? Because done on this case, but for who? Because done on this case, but for who? Because it didn't seem like it was for Alberta. it didn't seem like it was for Alberta. it didn't seem like it was for Alberta. Otherwise, Otherwise, Otherwise, why 2 days after she was found dead, did why 2 days after she was found dead, did why 2 days after she was found dead, did some of the prints lifted from her car some of the prints lifted from her car some of the prints lifted from her car >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> get thrown away? >> get thrown away? >> get thrown away? What? Oh, you heard me. What? Oh, you heard me. What? Oh, you heard me. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> And the story of how this even got found >> And the story of how this even got found >> And the story of how this even got found out is wild. out is wild. out is wild. So, So, So, >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> it's August 9th, 1965. We're talking >> it's August 9th, 1965. We're talking >> it's August 9th, 1965. We're talking days after the murder. days after the murder. days after the murder. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> And this detective, Detective Lancaster, >> And this detective, Detective Lancaster, >> And this detective, Detective Lancaster, is working really early hours. He's is working really early hours. He's is working really early hours. He's there at like 4:30 a.m. there at like 4:30 a.m. there at like 4:30 a.m. And he gets this idea about how they can And he gets this idea about how they can And he gets this idea about how they can utilize like the most important physical utilize like the most important physical utilize like the most important physical evidence that they have in this case, evidence that they have in this case, evidence that they have in this case, the fingerprints taken from Alberta's the fingerprints taken from Alberta's the fingerprints taken from Alberta's rental car. He's like, "You know what? rental car. He's like, "You know what? rental car. He's like, "You know what? We should be comparing these to We should be comparing these to We should be comparing these to everyone, not just people in her life, everyone, not just people in her life, everyone, not just people in her life, but like every felon who gets brought but like every felon who gets brought but like every felon who gets brought in. Honestly, in. Honestly, in. Honestly, >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> even people brought in on lesser >> even people brought in on lesser >> even people brought in on lesser charges. Like, this doesn't have to be a charges. Like, this doesn't have to be a charges. Like, this doesn't have to be a part of their record, but we should part of their record, but we should part of their record, but we should compare them to these like known suspect compare them to these like known suspect compare them to these like known suspect prints."

prints." prints." >> Not bad ideas. Right. Also, he says, "We >> Not bad ideas. Right. Also, he says, "We >> Not bad ideas. Right. Also, he says, "We should get prints from her Thunderbird should get prints from her Thunderbird should get prints from her Thunderbird that was in the shop. See if any of the that was in the shop. See if any of the that was in the shop. See if any of the prints match. Like, maybe she knew the prints match. Like, maybe she knew the prints match. Like, maybe she knew the guy before. Maybe we can like Or like guy before. Maybe we can like Or like guy before. Maybe we can like Or like rule out people from the rental place." rule out people from the rental place." rule out people from the rental place." >> Precisely. >> Precisely. >> Precisely. So, So, So, crack of dawn, Lancaster pops into the crack of dawn, Lancaster pops into the crack of dawn, Lancaster pops into the fingerprint lab to talk to the officer fingerprint lab to talk to the officer fingerprint lab to talk to the officer who is in charge over there, who is in charge over there, who is in charge over there, >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> Officer Elliott. And as far as I know, >> Officer Elliott. And as far as I know, >> Officer Elliott. And as far as I know, no one else is in the room when this no one else is in the room when this no one else is in the room when this happens. So, I'm just left to imagine happens. So, I'm just left to imagine happens. So, I'm just left to imagine the way that the [music] air was sucked the way that the [music] air was sucked the way that the [music] air was sucked out of this room. The look on Officer out of this room. The look on Officer out of this room. The look on Officer Elliott's face as he has to tell Elliott's face as he has to tell Elliott's face as he has to tell Detective Lancaster that they don't have Detective Lancaster that they don't have Detective Lancaster that they don't have all the prints anymore. And then he all the prints anymore. And then he all the prints anymore. And then he gives the reason why. gives the reason why. gives the reason why. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> He says that on the morning of Saturday, >> He says that on the morning of Saturday, >> He says that on the morning of Saturday, August 7th, he was just finishing up his August 7th, he was just finishing up his August 7th, he was just finishing up his overnight shift when two people came overnight shift when two people came overnight shift when two people came into the lab. A Sergeant Miller with the into the lab. A Sergeant Miller with the into the lab. A Sergeant Miller with the department and a technician with the department and a technician with the department and a technician with the last name Patterson. last name Patterson. last name Patterson. Now, technician Patterson had pulled the Now, technician Patterson had pulled the Now, technician Patterson had pulled the print cards from Alberta's case and was print cards from Alberta's case and was print cards from Alberta's case and was going to go through them. But Sergeant going to go through them. But Sergeant going to go through them. But Sergeant Miller told him, "You know what? Just Miller told him, "You know what? Just Miller told him, "You know what? Just leave the prints alone. I'm going to go leave the prints alone. I'm going to go leave the prints alone. I'm going to go grab coffee and then I want to look at grab coffee and then I want to look at grab coffee and then I want to look at them." Now, Officer Elliott is leaving them." Now, Officer Elliott is leaving them." Now, Officer Elliott is leaving as Sergeant Miller was going to get as Sergeant Miller was going to get as Sergeant Miller was going to get coffee.

coffee. coffee. Well, fast forward to that night. Well, fast forward to that night. Well, fast forward to that night. Officer Elliott reports back for duty. Officer Elliott reports back for duty. Officer Elliott reports back for duty. It's still August [music] 7th, 10:00 It's still August [music] 7th, 10:00 It's still August [music] 7th, 10:00 p.m. now. p.m. now. p.m. now. And he goes to pull the prints from And he goes to pull the prints from And he goes to pull the prints from Alberta's case. Alberta's case. Alberta's case. They're actively working this case. They're actively working this case. They're actively working this case. [music] [music] [music] Like now that he is there, Patterson is Like now that he is there, Patterson is Like now that he is there, Patterson is literally about to go get Alberta's literally about to go get Alberta's literally about to go get Alberta's prints so they can rule out whatever prints so they can rule out whatever prints so they can rule out whatever prints are hers. Like that's how fresh prints are hers. Like that's how fresh prints are hers. Like that's how fresh this is. Like that hasn't even happened this is. Like that hasn't even happened this is. Like that hasn't even happened yet. So, Elliott goes to the envelope yet. So, Elliott goes to the envelope yet. So, Elliott goes to the envelope where the print cards are kept where the print cards are kept where the print cards are kept and they're empty. and they're empty. and they're empty. Like all of them are gone. Like all of them are gone. Like all of them are gone. So, Elliott looks at Patterson and he's So, Elliott looks at Patterson and he's So, Elliott looks at Patterson and he's like, "Dude, like where is our like, "Dude, like where is our like, "Dude, like where is our evidence?" evidence?" evidence?" Patterson says he doesn't know. He Patterson says he doesn't know. He Patterson says he doesn't know. He stopped looking at the prints when stopped looking at the prints when stopped looking at the prints when Sergeant Miller told him to. He said Sergeant Miller told him to. He said Sergeant Miller told him to. He said that Miller was the only one who had that Miller was the only one who had that Miller was the only one who had gone through them that night. So, gone through them that night. So, gone through them that night. So, Elliott starts frantically looking Elliott starts frantically looking Elliott starts frantically looking around the lab. I'm sure he's like around the lab. I'm sure he's like around the lab. I'm sure he's like rifling through drawers, opening rifling through drawers, opening rifling through drawers, opening cabinets. Like preserving prints is cabinets. Like preserving prints is cabinets. Like preserving prints is their main job. He cannot lose these. their main job. He cannot lose these. their main job. He cannot lose these. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> And that is when he sees them.

>> And that is when he sees them. >> And that is when he sees them. In a trash bin between desks. Like In a trash bin between desks. Like In a trash bin between desks. Like someone threw these prints away. And someone threw these prints away. And someone threw these prints away. And because of this, some of them were because of this, some of them were because of this, some of them were completely ruined. And even more completely ruined. And even more completely ruined. And even more concerning, some of them were still concerning, some of them were still concerning, some of them were still missing. missing. missing. The prints that were taken from the left The prints that were taken from the left The prints that were taken from the left door window door window door window were never recovered. And the magnitude were never recovered. And the magnitude were never recovered. And the magnitude of this cannot be understated because of this cannot be understated because of this cannot be understated because Detective Lancaster said that he was Detective Lancaster said that he was Detective Lancaster said that he was present when these prints were lifted. present when these prints were lifted. present when these prints were lifted. He knows they existed. And he states in He knows they existed. And he states in He knows they existed. And he states in his memorandum to Major Robert A. his memorandum to Major Robert A. his memorandum to Major Robert A. Gregory that those prints were good Gregory that those prints were good Gregory that those prints were good [music] prints and possibly the most [music] prints and possibly the most [music] prints and possibly the most important prints of the bunch. Of important prints of the bunch. Of important prints of the bunch. Of course, there were no photos taken of course, there were no photos taken of course, there were no photos taken of the prints, no negatives. And so all the prints, no negatives. And so all the prints, no negatives. And so all they had left was one slightly smeared they had left was one slightly smeared they had left was one slightly smeared print from the left door window instead print from the left door window instead print from the left door window instead of the actual really good ones that of the actual really good ones that of the actual really good ones that [music] they know they collected. And [music] they know they collected. And [music] they know they collected. And Detective Lancaster ends his letter to Detective Lancaster ends his letter to Detective Lancaster ends his letter to the major saying the major saying the major saying >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> they need to contact Sergeant Miller and >> they need to contact Sergeant Miller and >> they need to contact Sergeant Miller and find out what he did with the prints or find out what he did with the prints or find out what he did with the prints or contact the FBI and see if maybe [music] contact the FBI and see if maybe [music] contact the FBI and see if maybe [music] they have them.

they have them. they have them. And what is nuts here is that there is And what is nuts here is that there is And what is nuts here is that there is nothing in the file about anyone ever nothing in the file about anyone ever nothing in the file about anyone ever questioning Miller about the prints, questioning Miller about the prints, questioning Miller about the prints, about where the prints are, or why he about where the prints are, or why he about where the prints are, or why he may have thrown them in the trash. may have thrown them in the trash. may have thrown them in the trash. Instead, he continued working the case Instead, he continued working the case Instead, he continued working the case and handling evidence even after [music] and handling evidence even after [music] and handling evidence even after [music] those prints got thrown away. those prints got thrown away. those prints got thrown away. That wouldn't be the only time in this That wouldn't be the only time in this That wouldn't be the only time in this case [music] that evidence was case [music] that evidence was case [music] that evidence was destroyed. destroyed. destroyed. No one knows exactly when this next No one knows exactly when this next No one knows exactly when this next thing happened thing happened >> [music] >> because no one caught it like Lancaster >> because no one caught it like Lancaster >> because no one caught it like Lancaster did the prints. Or if they did, a did the prints. Or if they did, a did the prints. Or if they did, a memorandum about what happened didn't memorandum about what happened didn't memorandum about what happened didn't survive in the file. survive in the file. survive in the file. But in 1988, investigators decided to But in 1988, investigators decided to But in 1988, investigators decided to take another look at [music] Alberta's take another look at [music] Alberta's take another look at [music] Alberta's case. They still weren't looking at the case. They still weren't looking at the case. They still weren't looking at the possibility that Alberta was targeted possibility that Alberta was targeted possibility that Alberta was targeted because of her civil rights work. They because of her civil rights work. They because of her civil rights work. They weren't trying to figure out if she was weren't trying to figure out if she was weren't trying to figure out if she was being followed or who was tapping her being followed or who was tapping her being followed or who was tapping her phone. And they weren't taking a good phone. And they weren't taking a good phone. And they weren't taking a good hard look at their own department to see hard look at their own department to see hard look at their own department to see if the case was mismanaged. Instead, if the case was mismanaged. Instead, if the case was mismanaged. Instead, they were interested to know Alberta's they were interested to know Alberta's they were interested to know Alberta's case could be connected to another case could be connected to another case could be connected to another woman's [music] death. Her name was woman's [music] death. Her name was woman's [music] death. Her name was Decora White, and she'd also been found Decora White, and she'd also been found Decora White, and she'd also been found dead in the river a year before Alberta.

dead in the river a year before Alberta. dead in the river a year before Alberta. Except, [music] no autopsy was even done Except, [music] no autopsy was even done Except, [music] no autopsy was even done on her. And they just assumed that she on her. And they just assumed that she on her. And they just assumed that she fell in the river and drowned. fell in the river and drowned. fell in the river and drowned. So, the theory went that maybe like So, the theory went that maybe like So, the theory went that maybe like Alberta was doing some legal estate work Alberta was doing some legal estate work Alberta was doing some legal estate work for Decora, but Alberta's family for Decora, but Alberta's family for Decora, but Alberta's family basically like shut that down. She's basically like shut that down. She's basically like shut that down. She's like, "Not only was Alberta not working like, "Not only was Alberta not working like, "Not only was Alberta not working with Decora, they didn't even know each with Decora, they didn't even know each with Decora, they didn't even know each other personally." [music] other personally." [music] other personally." [music] And long story short, police ended up And long story short, police ended up And long story short, police ended up saying that they couldn't connect the saying that they couldn't connect the saying that they couldn't connect the cases because none of the people in cases because none of the people in cases because none of the people in Decora's case matched the prints in Decora's case matched the prints in Decora's case matched the prints in Alberta's. Alberta's. Alberta's. >> You mean the prints that were smudged >> You mean the prints that were smudged >> You mean the prints that were smudged and missing? and missing? and missing? >> Yeah, so like I wouldn't be using that >> Yeah, so like I wouldn't be using that >> Yeah, so like I wouldn't be using that as an excuse to write a theory off, as an excuse to write a theory off, as an excuse to write a theory off, which is probably why they went looking which is probably why they went looking which is probably why they went looking to see if they could link other evidence to see if they could link other evidence to see if they could link other evidence to Decora's case. But here, in 1988, is to Decora's case. But here, in 1988, is to Decora's case. But here, in 1988, is when they find out, "Oh, guess what? when they find out, "Oh, guess what? when they find out, "Oh, guess what? Almost all of it's gone." Almost all of it's gone." Almost all of it's gone." Photos, we know the fingerprints are Photos, we know the fingerprints are Photos, we know the fingerprints are gone, the blood samples gone. Police had gone, the blood samples gone. Police had gone, the blood samples gone. Police had sent some of it off for testing, some I sent some of it off for testing, some I sent some of it off for testing, some I guess went to the FBI, [music] guess went to the FBI, [music] guess went to the FBI, [music] but detectives were calling around and but detectives were calling around and but detectives were calling around and they just could not track this stuff they just could not track this stuff they just could not track this stuff down. Obviously, [music] that 1988 down. Obviously, [music] that 1988 down. Obviously, [music] that 1988 investigation didn't get anywhere. And investigation didn't get anywhere. And investigation didn't get anywhere. And knowing that evidence was now mostly knowing that evidence was now mostly knowing that evidence was now mostly gone, destroyed, missing, whatever, gone, destroyed, missing, whatever, gone, destroyed, missing, whatever, it's not like there was much to go back it's not like there was much to go back it's not like there was much to go back and test over the years, like we see and test over the years, like we see and test over the years, like we see with so many other cold cases.

with so many other cold cases. with so many other cold cases. All they had were a couple of okay All they had were a couple of okay All they had were a couple of okay fingerprint cards. fingerprint cards. fingerprint cards. But Officer Elliott, saving those cards But Officer Elliott, saving those cards But Officer Elliott, saving those cards from the trash, would turn out to be one from the trash, would turn out to be one from the trash, would turn out to be one of the most important moves in this of the most important moves in this of the most important moves in this whole case. whole case. whole case. Because, more than 40 years after he Because, more than 40 years after he Because, more than 40 years after he pulled them out of the bin, pulled them out of the bin, pulled them out of the bin, thanks to new technology, thanks to new technology, thanks to new technology, one of the prints caught a match. >> By 2008, the FBI had an automated system >> By 2008, the FBI had an automated system to quickly match even low-quality prints to quickly match even low-quality prints to quickly match even low-quality prints against a national database against a national database against a national database electronically. electronically. electronically. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> And when cold case investigators in >> And when cold case investigators in >> And when cold case investigators in Louisville asked the FBI to run prints Louisville asked the FBI to run prints Louisville asked the FBI to run prints in Alberta's case again, after more than in Alberta's case again, after more than in Alberta's case again, after more than four decades, four decades, four decades, they finally got some good news. they finally got some good news. they finally got some good news. One of the prints hit [music] on a One of the prints hit [music] on a One of the prints hit [music] on a match, and it belonged to a man in match, and it belonged to a man in match, and it belonged to a man in California named Arthur Porter III.

California named Arthur Porter III. California named Arthur Porter III. But Arthur wasn't a California native. But Arthur wasn't a California native. But Arthur wasn't a California native. [music] Back in 1965, when he would have [music] Back in 1965, when he would have [music] Back in 1965, when he would have been just 17 years old, he was living in been just 17 years old, he was living in been just 17 years old, he was living in Louisville, Kentucky. Louisville, Kentucky. Louisville, Kentucky. His father owned a prominent black-owned His father owned a prominent black-owned His father owned a prominent black-owned funeral home, the same one that funeral home, the same one that funeral home, the same one that Alberta's body went to. The Louisville Alberta's body went to. The Louisville Alberta's body went to. The Louisville detective now working Alberta's case detective now working Alberta's case detective now working Alberta's case wasted no time getting on a flight out wasted no time getting on a flight out wasted no time getting on a flight out to LA. I mean, this was the biggest, to LA. I mean, this was the biggest, to LA. I mean, this was the biggest, best lead his department ever had, and best lead his department ever had, and best lead his department ever had, and whatever was done by his department whatever was done by his department whatever was done by his department before he was charged with solving it before he was charged with solving it before he was charged with solving it now, and he wanted to talk to Arthur, now, and he wanted to talk to Arthur, now, and he wanted to talk to Arthur, who was now 61. And it's kind of a who was now 61. And it's kind of a who was now 61. And it's kind of a strange interview, because strange interview, because strange interview, because when he sits down with him, Arthur when he sits down with him, Arthur when he sits down with him, Arthur insists [music] that he had nothing to insists [music] that he had nothing to insists [music] that he had nothing to do with what happened to Alberta Jones, do with what happened to Alberta Jones, do with what happened to Alberta Jones, while at the same time, like seeming to while at the same time, like seeming to while at the same time, like seeming to kind of have a little more knowledge kind of have a little more knowledge kind of have a little more knowledge about the situation than I would expect about the situation than I would expect about the situation than I would expect [music] if he was like really in the [music] if he was like really in the [music] if he was like really in the dark or hadn't thought about this woman dark or hadn't thought about this woman dark or hadn't thought about this woman in 40 years. in 40 years. in 40 years. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> Now, to be fair, when Detective Terry >> Now, to be fair, when Detective Terry >> Now, to be fair, when Detective Terry Jones starts this recording, he Jones starts this recording, he Jones starts this recording, he introduced himself as a homicide introduced himself as a homicide introduced himself as a homicide detective with the Louisville Police detective with the Louisville Police detective with the Louisville Police Department. So, when Arthur is insisting Department. So, when Arthur is insisting Department. So, when Arthur is insisting that he doesn't even know why he's being that he doesn't even know why he's being that he doesn't even know why he's being talked to, but then in the same breath talked to, but then in the same breath talked to, but then in the same breath says he didn't kill anybody, like he says he didn't kill anybody, like he says he didn't kill anybody, like he could very well be like putting the could very well be like putting the could very well be like putting the pieces together, making an assumption.

pieces together, making an assumption. pieces together, making an assumption. Why else would a homicide detective fly Why else would a homicide detective fly Why else would a homicide detective fly across the country to meet with you across the country to meet with you across the country to meet with you unless it was about a homicide? unless it was about a homicide? unless it was about a homicide? >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> When Detective Jones finally tells him >> When Detective Jones finally tells him >> When Detective Jones finally tells him >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> what homicide he's investigating, Arthur >> what homicide he's investigating, Arthur >> what homicide he's investigating, Arthur says that he remembers Alberta even says that he remembers Alberta even says that he remembers Alberta even after 40 years. after 40 years. after 40 years. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> Now, he never met her personally, didn't >> Now, he never met her personally, didn't >> Now, he never met her personally, didn't hang in the same circle, like why would hang in the same circle, like why would hang in the same circle, like why would he? I mean, he reminds the detective he? I mean, he reminds the detective he? I mean, he reminds the detective more than once that he was barely out of more than once that he was barely out of more than once that he was barely out of high school then and had no business high school then and had no business high school then and had no business hanging around a career woman like hanging around a career woman like hanging around a career woman like Alberta. But before he knows how his Alberta. But before he knows how his Alberta. But before he knows how his name was even brought up in this case, name was even brought up in this case, name was even brought up in this case, he comments to the detective, "I've he comments to the detective, "I've he comments to the detective, "I've never been with her." never been with her." never been with her." >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> And then the detective asks a cleverly >> And then the detective asks a cleverly >> And then the detective asks a cleverly worded question, worded question, worded question, "Did you work anywhere that summer that "Did you work anywhere that summer that "Did you work anywhere that summer that she was killed that might have put you she was killed that might have put you she was killed that might have put you in contact with her?" And Arthur says, in contact with her?" And Arthur says, in contact with her?" And Arthur says, "No, he worked at his dad's funeral "No, he worked at his dad's funeral "No, he worked at his dad's funeral home." home." home." So, the detective pushes again, "Okay, So, the detective pushes again, "Okay, So, the detective pushes again, "Okay, so like no car lots, like you didn't so like no car lots, like you didn't so like no car lots, like you didn't detail cars, like pumping gas, anything detail cars, like pumping gas, anything detail cars, like pumping gas, anything like that?" And he says no to all of like that?" And he says no to all of like that?" And he says no to all of this. And in doing the questioning this this. And in doing the questioning this this. And in doing the questioning this way, basically Detective Jones is way, basically Detective Jones is way, basically Detective Jones is backing him into like a firm stance that backing him into like a firm stance that backing him into like a firm stance that there is no reasonable explanation for there is no reasonable explanation for there is no reasonable explanation for his prints to be on or in Alberta's his prints to be on or in Alberta's his prints to be on or in Alberta's rental car.

rental car. rental car. But he never mentions prints. [music] He But he never mentions prints. [music] He But he never mentions prints. [music] He asks if any of his jobs would have put asks if any of his jobs would have put asks if any of his jobs would have put him in contact with her, specifically him in contact with her, specifically him in contact with her, specifically her. And the answer is no. So, the next her. And the answer is no. So, the next her. And the answer is no. So, the next question the detective asks is, question the detective asks is, question the detective asks is, "So, leading up to her death, "So, leading up to her death, "So, leading up to her death, >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> what did you know about her?" And this >> what did you know about her?" And this >> what did you know about her?" And this is where the answer is a little odd to is where the answer is a little odd to is where the answer is a little odd to me. me. me. Arthur said all he knows is that she got Arthur said all he knows is that she got Arthur said all he knows is that she got killed and she was a lawyer. killed and she was a lawyer. killed and she was a lawyer. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> And if they found his prints, he doesn't >> And if they found his prints, he doesn't >> And if they found his prints, he doesn't know what they were doing with her know what they were doing with her know what they were doing with her because he was a good kid, a bookworm because he was a good kid, a bookworm because he was a good kid, a bookworm straight out of school who didn't get straight out of school who didn't get straight out of school who didn't get into any trouble. And Detective Jones into any trouble. And Detective Jones into any trouble. And Detective Jones doesn't miss a beat. He's [music] like, doesn't miss a beat. He's [music] like, doesn't miss a beat. He's [music] like, "You said prints, like why are you "You said prints, like why are you "You said prints, like why are you talking about prints?" And to be fair, talking about prints?" And to be fair, talking about prints?" And to be fair, Arthur, like he doesn't say it like Arthur, like he doesn't say it like Arthur, like he doesn't say it like this, but he's like, "Listen, I'm not this, but he's like, "Listen, I'm not this, but he's like, "Listen, I'm not dumb. You're clearly asking me if dumb. You're clearly asking me if dumb. You're clearly asking me if there's any reason for me to have like there's any reason for me to have like there's any reason for me to have like touched a car, right?" Like he's putting touched a car, right?" Like he's putting touched a car, right?" Like he's putting the pieces together. the pieces together. the pieces together. But once the cat is out of the bag, the But once the cat is out of the bag, the But once the cat is out of the bag, the interview goes on and on, round and interview goes on and on, round and interview goes on and on, round and round. Arthur, round. Arthur, round. Arthur, at least in text, sounds [music] pretty at least in text, sounds [music] pretty at least in text, sounds [music] pretty convincing to me or reads pretty convincing to me or reads pretty convincing to me or reads pretty convincingly to me as he tells convincingly to me as he tells convincingly to me as he tells detectives that he had no idea how his detectives that he had no idea how his detectives that he had no idea how his prints ended up on her car.

prints ended up on her car. prints ended up on her car. >> Where on her car? >> Where on her car? >> Where on her car? >> Well, so this is the catch. We don't >> Well, so this is the catch. We don't >> Well, so this is the catch. We don't actually know all these years later. So, actually know all these years later. So, actually know all these years later. So, in the interview, Detective Jones tells in the interview, Detective Jones tells in the interview, Detective Jones tells Arthur they were in Alberta's vehicle. Arthur they were in Alberta's vehicle. Arthur they were in Alberta's vehicle. But actually, in the documents we have, But actually, in the documents we have, But actually, in the documents we have, police are never able to determine police are never able to determine police are never able to determine exactly what part of the car the prints exactly what part of the car the prints exactly what part of the car the prints are from. Like, they could be from the are from. Like, they could be from the are from. Like, they could be from the inside, [music] sure, but it's been so inside, [music] sure, but it's been so inside, [music] sure, but it's been so long and the original case notes don't long and the original case notes don't long and the original case notes don't say. So, investigators in 2008 don't say. So, investigators in 2008 don't say. So, investigators in 2008 don't [music] actually know for certain. [music] actually know for certain. [music] actually know for certain. Either way, Detective Jones is like, Either way, Detective Jones is like, Either way, Detective Jones is like, "Here, let me just show you the "Here, let me just show you the "Here, let me just show you the reports." And Arthur's like, "Listen, I reports." And Arthur's like, "Listen, I reports." And Arthur's like, "Listen, I don't need to see the reports. I don't don't need to see the reports. I don't don't need to see the reports. I don't care what is written in these reports. I care what is written in these reports. I care what is written in these reports. I didn't kill this woman." didn't kill this woman." didn't kill this woman." >> But you were in her car? >> But you were in her car? >> But you were in her car? >> Right. And Detective Jones isn't super >> Right. And Detective Jones isn't super >> Right. And Detective Jones isn't super confrontational as he like pushes back. confrontational as he like pushes back. confrontational as he like pushes back. He's like, "Listen, He's like, "Listen, He's like, "Listen, this is why I'm here talking to you. I'm this is why I'm here talking to you. I'm this is why I'm here talking to you. I'm trying to figure this out. I'm not even trying to figure this out. I'm not even trying to figure this out. I'm not even saying all of these prints are yours. In saying all of these prints are yours. In saying all of these prints are yours. In fact, I know they're [music] not all fact, I know they're [music] not all fact, I know they're [music] not all yours, but some are. yours, but some are. yours, but some are. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Help me help you. How could they have >> Help me help you. How could they have >> Help me help you. How could they have gotten there? And Arthur says, "Okay, gotten there? And Arthur says, "Okay, gotten there? And Arthur says, "Okay, well, maybe if the prints are on the well, maybe if the prints are on the well, maybe if the prints are on the hood or something, it got there when him hood or something, it got there when him hood or something, it got there when him and his buddies were hanging out." So, and his buddies were hanging out." So, and his buddies were hanging out." So, they start spending some time talking they start spending some time talking they start spending some time talking about where they used to hang out that about where they used to hang out that about where they used to hang out that summer.

summer. summer. And this is where it gets really And this is where it gets really And this is where it gets really interesting again. Because Arthur says interesting again. Because Arthur says interesting again. Because Arthur says that they're always on the west side by that they're always on the west side by that they're always on the west side by where his two buddies live, between Hale where his two buddies live, between Hale where his two buddies live, between Hale Avenue and River Park Drive. Avenue and River Park Drive. Avenue and River Park Drive. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> Mostly, they would hang out at Elliott >> Mostly, they would hang out at Elliott >> Mostly, they would hang out at Elliott Park, Park, Park, which is really interesting when you which is really interesting when you which is really interesting when you look at the map again. Just to the east look at the map again. Just to the east look at the map again. Just to the east of the park is the convenience store of the park is the convenience store of the park is the convenience store that Alberta stops at at 2:00 a.m. Just that Alberta stops at at 2:00 a.m. Just that Alberta stops at at 2:00 a.m. Just to the west of the park, like right on to the west of the park, like right on to the west of the park, like right on the corner, is where the couple saw a the corner, is where the couple saw a the corner, is where the couple saw a woman screaming and being pulled into a woman screaming and being pulled into a woman screaming and being pulled into a car. And then one street west of the car. And then one street west of the car. And then one street west of the park is where Alberta's car is park is where Alberta's car is park is where Alberta's car is ultimately found. ultimately found. ultimately found. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> Arthur just keeps saying, "I was a good >> Arthur just keeps saying, "I was a good >> Arthur just keeps saying, "I was a good kid. I didn't hurt anybody. I didn't kid. I didn't hurt anybody. I didn't kid. I didn't hurt anybody. I didn't hang around with anybody who did." And hang around with anybody who did." And hang around with anybody who did." And he's even willing to take a polygraph to he's even willing to take a polygraph to he's even willing to take a polygraph to prove it. So, they're like, "Perfect. prove it. So, they're like, "Perfect. prove it. So, they're like, "Perfect. Let's get this on the books for the next Let's get this on the books for the next Let's get this on the books for the next day." day." day." And they do. And they do. And they do. And Arthur shows up as promised for it. And Arthur shows up as promised for it. And Arthur shows up as promised for it. And he [music] fails. And he [music] fails. And he [music] fails. In fact, the report found, quote, "the In fact, the report found, quote, "the In fact, the report found, quote, "the highest level of deception [music] highest level of deception [music] highest level of deception [music] possible."

possible." possible." I think 2008 detectives probably thought I think 2008 detectives probably thought I think 2008 detectives probably thought they had their man, or at least they they had their man, or at least they they had their man, or at least they found a man with the answers that they found a man with the answers that they found a man with the answers that they were looking for. were looking for. were looking for. But, they could not get Arthur to talk But, they could not get Arthur to talk But, they could not get Arthur to talk [music] after that. I mean, does does he [music] after that. I mean, does does he [music] after that. I mean, does does he need to? need to? need to? >> If they've got his prints. >> If they've got his prints. >> If they've got his prints. >> Yeah, but like not knowing where the >> Yeah, but like not knowing where the >> Yeah, but like not knowing where the prints are from leaves this door open to prints are from leaves this door open to prints are from leaves this door open to a million explanations. So, even though a million explanations. So, even though a million explanations. So, even though they, it seems like when a charge Arthur they, it seems like when a charge Arthur they, it seems like when a charge Arthur with something, the Kentucky with something, the Kentucky with something, the Kentucky Commonwealth attorney refuses. In a Commonwealth attorney refuses. In a Commonwealth attorney refuses. In a letter that they sent to the Louisville letter that they sent to the Louisville letter that they sent to the Louisville Metro Police Department, it says that Metro Police Department, it says that Metro Police Department, it says that the state would not prosecute Arthur the state would not prosecute Arthur the state would not prosecute Arthur then or ever because the case wouldn't then or ever because the case wouldn't then or ever because the case wouldn't hold up in court. hold up in court. hold up in court. >> Okay, so >> Okay, so >> Okay, so if Arthur was involved in some way, if Arthur was involved in some way, if Arthur was involved in some way, I guess I have all the questions. Like, I guess I have all the questions. Like, I guess I have all the questions. Like, why? How? why? How? why? How? >> Well, >> Well, >> Well, I thought it was really interesting that I thought it was really interesting that I thought it was really interesting that Arthur mentioned two friends that he was Arthur mentioned two friends that he was Arthur mentioned two friends that he was with a lot that summer. Cuz I was with a lot that summer. Cuz I was with a lot that summer. Cuz I was thinking about that gas station sighting thinking about that gas station sighting thinking about that gas station sighting of Alberta. There were three teens.

of Alberta. There were three teens. of Alberta. There were three teens. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> What if that was them? >> What if that was them? >> What if that was them? Also, Also, Also, come down the rabbit hole with me real come down the rabbit hole with me real come down the rabbit hole with me real quick. There was another run-in that quick. There was another run-in that quick. There was another run-in that Alberta had with teenagers that night, Alberta had with teenagers that night, Alberta had with teenagers that night, and I didn't mention it yet. So, and I didn't mention it yet. So, and I didn't mention it yet. So, back when her and Gladys went to back when her and Gladys went to back when her and Gladys went to Kingfish to grab a bite, Gladys said Kingfish to grab a bite, Gladys said Kingfish to grab a bite, Gladys said that two white boys were yelling that two white boys were yelling that two white boys were yelling perverse things at [music] them from perverse things at [music] them from perverse things at [music] them from their car. They actually drove off their car. They actually drove off their car. They actually drove off because of it. because of it. because of it. Now, she said that she didn't notice Now, she said that she didn't notice Now, she said that she didn't notice them [music] following the car or them [music] following the car or them [music] following the car or anything, but anything, but anything, but is it possible that those two white boys is it possible that those two white boys is it possible that those two white boys met up with Arthur later? met up with Arthur later? met up with Arthur later? Remember, we don't know the race or have Remember, we don't know the race or have Remember, we don't know the race or have any descriptions for the three boys from any descriptions for the three boys from any descriptions for the three boys from the gas station. the gas station. the gas station. >> going to ask. >> going to ask. >> going to ask. >> But, I do suspect [music] that Arthur's >> But, I do suspect [music] that Arthur's >> But, I do suspect [music] that Arthur's two friends were white because while two friends were white because while two friends were white because while their names are redacted from the their names are redacted from the their names are redacted from the transcript, [music] what's not redacted transcript, [music] what's not redacted transcript, [music] what's not redacted is the part where Arthur tells police is the part where Arthur tells police is the part where Arthur tells police that his two friends that his two friends that his two friends their dads worked for Louisville PD. their dads worked for Louisville PD. their dads worked for Louisville PD. One was a sergeant and one was a major.

One was a sergeant and one was a major. One was a sergeant and one was a major. I know at the time that Louisville PD I know at the time that Louisville PD I know at the time that Louisville PD was predominantly white. So, that's what was predominantly white. So, that's what was predominantly white. So, that's what I'm basing my assumption off of. I'm basing my assumption off of. I'm basing my assumption off of. >> Well, and is that the real reason the >> Well, and is that the real reason the >> Well, and is that the real reason the fingerprint cards [music] disappeared? fingerprint cards [music] disappeared? fingerprint cards [music] disappeared? >> Makes you wonder, right? And listen, I >> Makes you wonder, right? And listen, I >> Makes you wonder, right? And listen, I went down a rabbit hole of yearbooks and went down a rabbit hole of yearbooks and went down a rabbit hole of yearbooks and obituaries trying to figure out who obituaries trying to figure out who obituaries trying to figure out who these guys could be. I could not pin it these guys could be. I could not pin it these guys could be. I could not pin it down. down. down. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> I will say that the sergeant Miller, the >> I will say that the sergeant Miller, the >> I will say that the sergeant Miller, the one who was last with the print cards one who was last with the print cards one who was last with the print cards before some magically went missing, before some magically went missing, before some magically went missing, I think I found the right Miller. Based I think I found the right Miller. Based I think I found the right Miller. Based on his obituary, he only had girls, so I on his obituary, he only had girls, so I on his obituary, he only had girls, so I don't think that was like him protecting don't think that was like him protecting don't think that was like him protecting his kid. his kid. his kid. >> Okay, but someone else's? >> Okay, but someone else's? >> Okay, but someone else's? >> I don't know. >> I don't know. >> I don't know. Because [music] this 2008 investigation Because [music] this 2008 investigation Because [music] this 2008 investigation feels a little like the 1965 one. feels a little like the 1965 one. feels a little like the 1965 one. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> Even though there are a lot of documents >> Even though there are a lot of documents >> Even though there are a lot of documents and work, and work, and work, the work I want to see is either missing the work I want to see is either missing the work I want to see is either missing or wasn't done because I can't find any or wasn't done because I can't find any or wasn't done because I can't find any records of them going and speaking to records of them going and speaking to records of them going and speaking to the friends that Arthur names to figure the friends that Arthur names to figure the friends that Arthur names to figure out if they know anything or had any out if they know anything or had any out if they know anything or had any connection to Alberta's case. The connection to Alberta's case. The connection to Alberta's case. The mention of them just kind of like goes mention of them just kind of like goes mention of them just kind of like goes away just like the prints did.

away just like the prints did. away just like the prints did. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> And listen, maybe Arthur's prints are a >> And listen, maybe Arthur's prints are a >> And listen, maybe Arthur's prints are a red herring. red herring. red herring. We couldn't ask Arthur about it We couldn't ask Arthur about it We couldn't ask Arthur about it ourselves because ourselves because ourselves because >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> he passed away in 2024 maintaining his >> he passed away in 2024 maintaining his >> he passed away in 2024 maintaining his innocence. innocence. innocence. If it If it If it >> was just like a group of teens Arthur or >> was just like a group of teens Arthur or >> was just like a group of teens Arthur or not. not. not. Do you think it really was just like Do you think it really was just like Do you think it really was just like some robbery gone wrong? some robbery gone wrong? some robbery gone wrong? So, no matter So, no matter So, no matter who it was, who it was, who it was, I really don't think that that was the I really don't think that that was the I really don't think that that was the motive. motive. motive. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> Because I don't think Alberta just >> Because I don't think Alberta just >> Because I don't think Alberta just randomly encountered her killer. Like I randomly encountered her killer. Like I randomly encountered her killer. Like I actually think that she was set up from actually think that she was set up from actually think that she was set up from the beginning. the beginning. the beginning. I mean, think about it. She didn't want I mean, think about it. She didn't want I mean, think about it. She didn't want to go out. She had been extra cautious to go out. She had been extra cautious to go out. She had been extra cautious lately. lately. lately. It would have been hard to get her in a It would have been hard to get her in a It would have been hard to get her in a vulnerable position unless she was lured vulnerable position unless she was lured vulnerable position unless she was lured out of the house. out of the house. out of the house. Maybe by someone she trusted. Maybe by someone she trusted. Maybe by someone she trusted. >> Are you saying Gladys was in on it? >> Are you saying Gladys was in on it? >> Are you saying Gladys was in on it? >> I don't know for sure, but I can tell >> I don't know for sure, but I can tell >> I don't know for sure, but I can tell you that Alberta's family always [music] you that Alberta's family always [music] you that Alberta's family always [music] suspected that. Her sister Flora still suspected that. Her sister Flora still suspected that. Her sister Flora still suspects that.

suspects that. suspects that. Cuz there are some things that just Cuz there are some things that just Cuz there are some things that just [music] don't add up. Like for one, over [music] don't add up. Like for one, over [music] don't add up. Like for one, over the years, Gladys's story of what the years, Gladys's story of what the years, Gladys's story of what happened the night Alberta came over happened the night Alberta came over happened the night Alberta came over kind of changed. [music] I mean, at kind of changed. [music] I mean, at kind of changed. [music] I mean, at first she said that she watched Alberta first she said that she watched Alberta first she said that she watched Alberta get into her car before she went inside, get into her car before she went inside, get into her car before she went inside, right? But in a later interview, she right? But in a later interview, she right? But in a later interview, she said that she watched Alberta actually said that she watched Alberta actually said that she watched Alberta actually drive away. drive away. drive away. This isn't like a huge deal. I think it This isn't like a huge deal. I think it This isn't like a huge deal. I think it could be easy to misremember some things could be easy to misremember some things could be easy to misremember some things over years. over years. over years. But what is a huge deal is that in her But what is a huge deal is that in her But what is a huge deal is that in her original story, it was that Alberta came original story, it was that Alberta came original story, it was that Alberta came over, she fits the wig, they go to over, she fits the wig, they go to over, she fits the wig, they go to Kingfish, and then they come back, and Kingfish, and then they come back, and Kingfish, and then they come back, and Alberta said that she wanted the wig Alberta said that she wanted the wig Alberta said that she wanted the wig like trimmed up a little bit more. She like trimmed up a little bit more. She like trimmed up a little bit more. She didn't like the way that like the bangs didn't like the way that like the bangs didn't like the way that like the bangs fell or something. So, they went back fell or something. So, they went back fell or something. So, they went back into Gladys's house before Alberta left. into Gladys's house before Alberta left. into Gladys's house before Alberta left. But in one of the later interviews, But in one of the later interviews, But in one of the later interviews, Gladys said that Alberta didn't [music] Gladys said that Alberta didn't [music] Gladys said that Alberta didn't [music] come back inside her house at all after come back inside her house at all after come back inside her house at all after they went to Kingfish that night. I they went to Kingfish that night. I they went to Kingfish that night. I mean, mean, mean, that's not like that's not like that's not like that huge. It's not saying she didn't that huge. It's not saying she didn't that huge. It's not saying she didn't come over at all, right? come over at all, right? come over at all, right? >> No, but this highlights the thing that I >> No, but this highlights the thing that I >> No, but this highlights the thing that I am obsessed over.

am obsessed over. am obsessed over. Was or wasn't there a wig? Was or wasn't there a wig? Was or wasn't there a wig? >> What do you mean? >> What do you mean? >> What do you mean? >> The whole reason Alberta supposedly goes >> The whole reason Alberta supposedly goes >> The whole reason Alberta supposedly goes to Gladys's that night is for this wig, to Gladys's that night is for this wig, to Gladys's that night is for this wig, right? Like Gladys, sure she wanted to right? Like Gladys, sure she wanted to right? Like Gladys, sure she wanted to talk legal stuff, too, whatever, talk legal stuff, too, whatever, talk legal stuff, too, whatever, whatever, but she wanted Alberta to get whatever, but she wanted Alberta to get whatever, but she wanted Alberta to get this wig. this wig. this wig. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Alberta gets the wig put on. >> Alberta gets the wig put on. >> Alberta gets the wig put on. Alberta is supposedly wearing the wig Alberta is supposedly wearing the wig Alberta is supposedly wearing the wig when she leaves. when she leaves. when she leaves. Where's the wig, Brit? Where's the wig, Brit? Where's the wig, Brit? Cuz guess what? Alberta didn't have a Cuz guess what? Alberta didn't have a Cuz guess what? Alberta didn't have a wig on when she was pulled from the wig on when she was pulled from the wig on when she was pulled from the river. river. river. There wasn't a wig in her car or in her There wasn't a wig in her car or in her There wasn't a wig in her car or in her purse when that's found years later. And purse when that's found years later. And purse when that's found years later. And listen, admittedly, I don't know a lot listen, admittedly, I don't know a lot listen, admittedly, I don't know a lot about wearing wigs in general, much less about wearing wigs in general, much less about wearing wigs in general, much less the techniques of applying wigs back in the techniques of applying wigs back in the techniques of applying wigs back in 1965. 1965. 1965. But I did wear one wig for our Halloween But I did wear one wig for our Halloween But I did wear one wig for our Halloween photo shoot, and that baby was glued to photo shoot, and that baby was glued to photo shoot, and that baby was glued to my head. my head. my head. So, I kept thinking, I doubt her wig So, I kept thinking, I doubt her wig So, I kept thinking, I doubt her wig wasn't like secured, right? Like it's wasn't like secured, right? Like it's wasn't like secured, right? Like it's not just like sitting not just like sitting not just like sitting >> She had her hairdresser like fit it on >> She had her hairdresser like fit it on >> She had her hairdresser like fit it on her. her. her. >> It didn't just float away in the river. >> It didn't just float away in the river. >> It didn't just float away in the river. So, I did a lot of phoning a friend, So, I did a lot of phoning a friend, So, I did a lot of phoning a friend, talking to women in our office who have talking to women in our office who have talking to women in our office who have worn wigs, including the reporter for worn wigs, including the reporter for worn wigs, including the reporter for this case, [music] Shar Adams, and this case, [music] Shar Adams, and this case, [music] Shar Adams, and everyone said that the wig would have everyone said that the wig would have everyone said that the wig would have been secured. Likely not glued, though, been secured. Likely not glued, though, been secured. Likely not glued, though, because it seems that was kind of rare because it seems that was kind of rare because it seems that was kind of rare back in 1965.

back in 1965. back in 1965. So, I think that's important, too, So, I think that's important, too, So, I think that's important, too, because it's not like the water like because it's not like the water like because it's not like the water like loosened the glue, right? It more than loosened the glue, right? It more than loosened the glue, right? It more than likely means that the wig was secured on likely means that the wig was secured on likely means that the wig was secured on with pins. with pins. with pins. So, why wasn't the wig on her head when So, why wasn't the wig on her head when So, why wasn't the wig on her head when she was found? she was found? she was found? The autopsy said that Alberta had a cut The autopsy said that Alberta had a cut The autopsy said that Alberta had a cut on her forehead right near her hairline on her forehead right near her hairline on her forehead right near her hairline that looked like she was maybe jabbed that looked like she was maybe jabbed that looked like she was maybe jabbed with a stick. with a stick. with a stick. Other than that, there was nothing out Other than that, there was nothing out Other than that, there was nothing out of the ordinary about her hair. There of the ordinary about her hair. There of the ordinary about her hair. There wasn't a report of any pins or combs to wasn't a report of any pins or combs to wasn't a report of any pins or combs to hold down the wig. hold down the wig. hold down the wig. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> So, like, I keep going back to, was >> So, like, I keep going back to, was >> So, like, I keep going back to, was there a wig? there a wig? there a wig? Gladys did provide a similar wig to Gladys did provide a similar wig to Gladys did provide a similar wig to police, so they knew what they they police, so they knew what they they police, so they knew what they they looking for. looking for. looking for. Now, to be clear, Flora said that the Now, to be clear, Flora said that the Now, to be clear, Flora said that the family never suspected that Gladys family never suspected that Gladys family never suspected that Gladys actually committed the murder. actually committed the murder. actually committed the murder. But, they did know that she was in But, they did know that she was in But, they did know that she was in [music] debt. So, they think that [music] debt. So, they think that [music] debt. So, they think that someone maybe paid her to get Alberta someone maybe paid her to get Alberta someone maybe paid her to get Alberta out of the house that night, and she out of the house that night, and she out of the house that night, and she took the job to help pay off her debts took the job to help pay off her debts took the job to help pay off her debts not thinking that anyone was going to not thinking that anyone was going to not thinking that anyone was going to kill Alberta.

kill Alberta. kill Alberta. >> I mean, wouldn't you think she would >> I mean, wouldn't you think she would >> I mean, wouldn't you think she would just say that though? Like, if that's just say that though? Like, if that's just say that though? Like, if that's what happened? what happened? what happened? >> I think it depends on who's paying you, >> I think it depends on who's paying you, >> I think it depends on who's paying you, right? Like, would Who would you be right? Like, would Who would you be right? Like, would Who would you be pointing the finger at? Are they scary pointing the finger at? Are they scary pointing the finger at? Are they scary people? Are [music] they powerful people? Are [music] they powerful people? Are [music] they powerful people? I mean, maybe that's not even people? I mean, maybe that's not even people? I mean, maybe that's not even what happened. There is actually one what happened. There is actually one what happened. There is actually one theory that the family heard about from theory that the family heard about from theory that the family heard about from a detective that could explain a lot, a detective that could explain a lot, a detective that could explain a lot, including the missing wig. including the missing wig. including the missing wig. So, in the year after Alberta died, So, in the year after Alberta died, So, in the year after Alberta died, there was supposedly this guy in a there was supposedly this guy in a there was supposedly this guy in a Chicago jail who was planning to confess Chicago jail who was planning to confess Chicago jail who was planning to confess to being involved in Alberta's murder to being involved in Alberta's murder to being involved in Alberta's murder along with two other people. along with two other people. along with two other people. And the man said that they were in And the man said that they were in And the man said that they were in Louisville to rob a bank around the time Louisville to rob a bank around the time Louisville to rob a bank around the time Alberta died, but then they got this Alberta died, but then they got this Alberta died, but then they got this better deal to kill an attorney. better deal to kill an attorney. better deal to kill an attorney. And according to Flora, the man said And according to Flora, the man said And according to Flora, the man said that they killed Alberta and then sold that they killed Alberta and then sold that they killed Alberta and then sold her wig somewhere in Kentucky. her wig somewhere in Kentucky. her wig somewhere in Kentucky. But, the detective who told the family But, the detective who told the family But, the detective who told the family about this came back later and said that about this came back later and said that about this came back later and said that the guy had been stabbed [music] to the guy had been stabbed [music] to the guy had been stabbed [music] to death in jail before the detective could death in jail before the detective could death in jail before the detective could even go talk to him personally. even go talk to him personally. even go talk to him personally. >> That seems convenient. >> That seems convenient. >> That seems convenient. >> Right, weird timing. And whether or not >> Right, weird timing. And whether or not >> Right, weird timing. And whether or not that story was true or connected, this that story was true or connected, this that story was true or connected, this whole case reeks of something bigger.

whole case reeks of something bigger. whole case reeks of something bigger. Bigger than just who killed Alberta. The Bigger than just who killed Alberta. The Bigger than just who killed Alberta. The question for her family is who was question for her family is who was question for her family is who was behind her killing? behind her killing? behind her killing? Who might have helped cover it up? Who might have helped cover it up? Who might have helped cover it up? Because it feels like someone in power Because it feels like someone in power Because it feels like someone in power had a hand in this. had a hand in this. had a hand in this. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> And if that's the case, then it likely >> And if that's the case, then it likely >> And if that's the case, then it likely has to do has to do has to do with one or two places where Alberta was with one or two places where Alberta was with one or two places where Alberta was getting in the way for people. getting in the way for people. getting in the way for people. Either it had to do with her civil Either it had to do with her civil Either it had to do with her civil rights work or it had to do with her rights work or it had to do with her rights work or it had to do with her work involving Muhammad Ali. work involving Muhammad Ali. work involving Muhammad Ali. So, I told you earlier that Alberta So, I told you earlier that Alberta So, I told you earlier that Alberta negotiated his first professional negotiated his first professional negotiated his first professional contract. But, she was also managing a contract. But, she was also managing a contract. But, she was also managing a lot of his money. Like, 15% [music] lot of his money. Like, 15% [music] lot of his money. Like, 15% [music] of all the winnings at the height of his of all the winnings at the height of his of all the winnings at the height of his career was kept in a trust that he career was kept in a trust that he career was kept in a trust that he couldn't touch until he was 35. And if couldn't touch until he was 35. And if couldn't touch until he was 35. And if someone wanted that money, they had to someone wanted that money, they had to someone wanted that money, they had to go through Alberta. go through Alberta. go through Alberta. Now, this started to get explored a Now, this started to get explored a Now, this started to get explored a little in the 1980s investigation. A little in the 1980s investigation. A little in the 1980s investigation. A detective reported that Ali wanted some detective reported that Ali wanted some detective reported that Ali wanted some of his money to go to the Nation of of his money to go to the Nation of of his money to go to the Nation of Islam, but Alberta refused. And the Islam, but Alberta refused. And the Islam, but Alberta refused. And the detective said that they even argued detective said that they even argued detective said that they even argued about it. And Ali told Alberta that about it. And Ali told Alberta that about it. And Ali told Alberta that members of the NOI really wanted that members of the NOI really wanted that members of the NOI really wanted that money.

money. money. But, all lines of inquiry into this But, all lines of inquiry into this But, all lines of inquiry into this stopped when the detective's wife stopped when the detective's wife stopped when the detective's wife started receiving threats. Said that if started receiving threats. Said that if started receiving threats. Said that if her husband didn't back off that they her husband didn't back off that they her husband didn't back off that they would put her in the river. would put her in the river. would put her in the river. >> So, he just backed off? >> So, he just backed off? >> So, he just backed off? >> Seems like he just backed off. Yeah. >> Seems like he just backed off. Yeah. >> Seems like he just backed off. Yeah. But, this avenue is getting renewed But, this avenue is getting renewed But, this avenue is getting renewed attention now. Thanks to a professor at attention now. Thanks to a professor at attention now. Thanks to a professor at Bellarmine University in Louisville Bellarmine University in Louisville Bellarmine University in Louisville named Lee Remington. She has been named Lee Remington. She has been named Lee Remington. She has been studying this case for a book that she's studying this case for a book that she's studying this case for a book that she's writing about Alberta's life and death. writing about Alberta's life and death. writing about Alberta's life and death. And so far, she says this is the And so far, she says this is the And so far, she says this is the direction that seems most promising. She direction that seems most promising. She direction that seems most promising. She expects to lay out more evidence like a expects to lay out more evidence like a expects to lay out more evidence like a potential money trail leading back to potential money trail leading back to potential money trail leading back to Alberta's killer when she publishes. Alberta's killer when she publishes. Alberta's killer when she publishes. Though, there is no published date quite Though, there is no published date quite Though, there is no published date quite yet. Like I mentioned, the book is about yet. Like I mentioned, the book is about yet. Like I mentioned, the book is about more than just Alberta's death. [music] more than just Alberta's death. [music] more than just Alberta's death. [music] Alberta made a huge impact on her Alberta made a huge impact on her Alberta made a huge impact on her community in the 34 years of life that community in the 34 years of life that community in the 34 years of life that she had. And Flora and Lee have made she had. And Flora and Lee have made she had. And Flora and Lee have made sure that she won't be lost in history. sure that she won't be lost in history. sure that she won't be lost in history. In 2017, Louisville honored Alberta as a In 2017, Louisville honored Alberta as a In 2017, Louisville honored Alberta as a hometown hero and hung a banner with her hometown hero and hung a banner with her hometown hero and hung a banner with her picture on a massive bank building along picture on a massive bank building along picture on a massive bank building along a street named [music] after Muhammad a street named [music] after Muhammad a street named [music] after Muhammad Ali. The city named a park after Ali. The city named a park after Ali. The city named a park after Alberta, and there is an annual Alberta Alberta, and there is an annual Alberta Alberta, and there is an annual Alberta O. Jones Park Day.

O. Jones Park Day. O. Jones Park Day. Alberta's been gone for over 60 years, Alberta's been gone for over 60 years, Alberta's been gone for over 60 years, but it's never too late for justice. but it's never too late for justice. but it's never too late for justice. So, if anyone out there has information So, if anyone out there has information So, if anyone out there has information about her death, you can contact the about her death, you can contact the about her death, you can contact the Louisville Metro Police Department's Louisville Metro Police Department's Louisville Metro Police Department's Cold Case Squad [music] Cold Case Squad [music] Cold Case Squad [music] at 502-574-7055, or you can email us directly or you can email us directly [email protected].