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Crime Junkie July 9, 2026 1m

They Sent The WRONG DNA... #carmenvanhuss #crimejunkies #truecrimeshorts #podcast

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  1. What no one knows at the time is that What no one knows at the time is that this $1,600 DNA test, which the city this $1,600 DNA test, which the city this $1,600 DNA test, which the city organizes and pays for, somehow ends up organizes and pays for, somehow ends up organizes and pays for, somehow ends up spurring a departmental controversy that spurring a departmental controversy that spurring a departmental controversy that throws Carmen's case into jeopardy and throws Carmen's case into jeopardy and throws Carmen's case into jeopardy and lands Sergeant Carter in a bucket of hot lands Sergeant Carter in a bucket of hot lands Sergeant Carter in a bucket of hot water with IMPD. water with IMPD. water with IMPD. The controversy in Carmen's case all The controversy in Carmen's case all The controversy in Carmen's case all started in 2015 when the results from started in 2015 when the results from started in 2015 when the results from the DNA test come back. the DNA test come back. the DNA test come back. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> Carter remembers the cold case sergeant >> Carter remembers the cold case sergeant >> Carter remembers the cold case sergeant coming by his desk and saying, "Well, we coming by his desk and saying, "Well, we coming by his desk and saying, "Well, we got a problem. Our killer is a European got a problem. Our killer is a European got a problem. Our killer is a European female." female." female." >> The original profile was developed from >> The original profile was developed from >> The original profile was developed from a semen sample. How is that even a semen sample. How is that even a semen sample. How is that even possible? possible? possible? >> It's not. Like, it turns out the city >> It's not. Like, it turns out the city >> It's not. Like, it turns out the city sent the wrong sample to the lab. What sent the wrong sample to the lab. What sent the wrong sample to the lab. What they likely tested was Carmen's own DNA. they likely tested was Carmen's own DNA. they likely tested was Carmen's own DNA. >> Uh I'm sorry, how does that even happen? >> Uh I'm sorry, how does that even happen? >> Uh I'm sorry, how does that even happen? >> Not totally clear. I don't know if this >> Not totally clear. I don't know if this >> Not totally clear. I don't know if this has anything to do with the fact that has anything to do with the fact that has anything to do with the fact that like early on they sent her profile to like early on they sent her profile to like early on they sent her profile to CODIS. CODIS. CODIS. >> That's like where my mind immediately >> That's like where my mind immediately >> That's like where my mind immediately went. went. went. >> All Sergeant Carter can assume is that >> All Sergeant Carter can assume is that >> All Sergeant Carter can assume is that the people who sent off the DNA somehow the people who sent off the DNA somehow the people who sent off the DNA somehow got mixed up. Whatever, human error, got mixed up. Whatever, human error, got mixed up. Whatever, human error, people make mistakes, right? Luckily, people make mistakes, right? Luckily, people make mistakes, right? Luckily, this isn't one where we like used up the this isn't one where we like used up the this isn't one where we like used up the last sample or anything. We just like go last sample or anything. We just like go last sample or anything. We just like go back and do it again.

  2. back and do it again. back and do it again. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Well, when Sergeant Carter asks for >> Well, when Sergeant Carter asks for >> Well, when Sergeant Carter asks for another test, he gets shut down. another test, he gets shut down. another test, he gets shut down. Officials tell him that they won't pay Officials tell him that they won't pay Officials tell him that they won't pay for the test, that they don't usually for the test, that they don't usually for the test, that they don't usually cover this particular kind of testing cover this particular kind of testing cover this particular kind of testing anyway, and that the first time they did anyway, and that the first time they did anyway, and that the first time they did it was actually a mistake. it was actually a mistake. it was actually a mistake. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> And this would typically be the point >> And this would typically be the point >> And this would typically be the point where most investigators would give up where most investigators would give up where most investigators would give up or move on, but if it's not already or move on, but if it's not already or move on, but if it's not already clear, Bill Carter is not most clear, Bill Carter is not most clear, Bill Carter is not most investigators.

Summary

The main theme is a departmental controversy surrounding a mistaken DNA test in Carmen's cold case. Key references include the $1,600 DNA test, a semen sample, CODIS, and Sergeant Carter's persistent investigation against official roadblocks. The takeaway is that even human error in evidence handling can complicate cases, and a determined investigator's refusal to give up is crucial.

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