She fell in love with a conman and then disappeared

Almost 20 different names. Almost 20 different names. >> Ray was an alias. James Wyeth was an >> Ray was an alias. James Wyeth was an >> Ray was an alias. James Wyeth was an alias. alias. alias. >> Attached to just one man. >> Attached to just one man. >> Attached to just one man. >> And that's not even including the stolen >> And that's not even including the stolen >> And that's not even including the stolen identity. identity. identity. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> Authorities and associates believe he's >> Authorities and associates believe he's >> Authorities and associates believe he's a con artist, but take a closer look. a con artist, but take a closer look. a con artist, but take a closer look. >> She was convinced that this >> She was convinced that this >> She was convinced that this was going to be her happy ending. was going to be her happy ending. was going to be her happy ending. >> Is Robert Carnigan, aka take your pick, >> Is Robert Carnigan, aka take your pick, >> Is Robert Carnigan, aka take your pick, just a common swindler or just a common swindler or just a common swindler or >> We do believe there is something more >> We do believe there is something more >> We do believe there is something more sinister at play. sinister at play. sinister at play. >> Could this many-faced man be hiding >> Could this many-faced man be hiding >> Could this many-faced man be hiding something much more evil? something much more evil? something much more evil? >> He took so much from all of us. >> He took so much from all of us. >> He took so much from all of us. I just miss my momma. >> At 71 years old and with two marriages >> At 71 years old and with two marriages behind her, Kingman, Arizona local Nancy behind her, Kingman, Arizona local Nancy behind her, Kingman, Arizona local Nancy Ray Hearts had just about given up on Ray Hearts had just about given up on Ray Hearts had just about given up on romance. But all things being modern, romance. But all things being modern, romance. But all things being modern, the promise of love is always just a few the promise of love is always just a few the promise of love is always just a few clicks away, no matter your vintage. clicks away, no matter your vintage. clicks away, no matter your vintage. An alluring promise boasted by real An alluring promise boasted by real An alluring promise boasted by real users of an online dating site catering users of an online dating site catering users of an online dating site catering to the older set, people like Nancy to the older set, people like Nancy to the older set, people like Nancy Hearts.

Hearts. Hearts. >> Her husband of I don't remember how many >> Her husband of I don't remember how many >> Her husband of I don't remember how many years had passed away years had passed away years had passed away over 10 years ago. And she didn't have a over 10 years ago. And she didn't have a over 10 years ago. And she didn't have a whole lot of friends outside of whole lot of friends outside of whole lot of friends outside of home or in the family. And uh home or in the family. And uh home or in the family. And uh I think she was she was always she was I think she was she was always she was I think she was she was always she was just looking for someone in her life to just looking for someone in her life to just looking for someone in her life to spend some time with. spend some time with. spend some time with. >> Then along came a man who called himself >> Then along came a man who called himself >> Then along came a man who called himself Ray, same as Nancy's middle name. An Ray, same as Nancy's middle name. An Ray, same as Nancy's middle name. An instant connection. instant connection. instant connection. >> I guess they pretty much corresponded >> I guess they pretty much corresponded >> I guess they pretty much corresponded several times every day, so it was several times every day, so it was several times every day, so it was pretty much just an online relationship. pretty much just an online relationship. pretty much just an online relationship. And [music] then he would come and visit And [music] then he would come and visit And [music] then he would come and visit with her for four days and then would with her for four days and then would with her for four days and then would leave again and be gone for three or leave again and be gone for three or leave again and be gone for three or four months. four months. four months. >> But at her age, Nancy wasn't looking for >> But at her age, Nancy wasn't looking for >> But at her age, Nancy wasn't looking for a part-time lover, and after a year or a part-time lover, and after a year or a part-time lover, and after a year or so of longing and distance, her patience so of longing and distance, her patience so of longing and distance, her patience was wearing thin. was wearing thin. was wearing thin. >> She was getting kind of tired of waiting >> She was getting kind of tired of waiting >> She was getting kind of tired of waiting around because of his promises if he around because of his promises if he around because of his promises if he would come and and see her and then so would come and and see her and then so would come and and see her and then so she finally wrote an email that she was she finally wrote an email that she was she finally wrote an email that she was just about through with the situation just about through with the situation just about through with the situation and [music] and [music] and [music] >> [bell] >> [bell] >> [bell] >> he was there the next day.

>> he was there the next day. >> he was there the next day. >> Ray Cline had flown down from his ranch >> Ray Cline had flown down from his ranch >> Ray Cline had flown down from his ranch in Utah as soon as he thought he might in Utah as soon as he thought he might in Utah as soon as he thought he might lose her. After that, Sherry says Ray lose her. After that, Sherry says Ray lose her. After that, Sherry says Ray was a constant fixture in Nancy's life. was a constant fixture in Nancy's life. was a constant fixture in Nancy's life. A life that was about to go through a A life that was about to go through a A life that was about to go through a series of sudden, some might even say series of sudden, some might even say series of sudden, some might even say apocalyptic changes. apocalyptic changes. apocalyptic changes. >> He had her convinced that they had to >> He had her convinced that they had to >> He had her convinced that they had to get out of Arizona, had to get out of get out of Arizona, had to get out of get out of Arizona, had to get out of Kingman because there was lava pits up Kingman because there was lava pits up Kingman because there was lava pits up under the the state and that the under the the state and that the under the the state and that the financial institutions were no longer financial institutions were no longer financial institutions were no longer stable. But he got her throughout these stable. But he got her throughout these stable. But he got her throughout these several months convinced that the world several months convinced that the world several months convinced that the world was coming to an end. was coming to an end. was coming to an end. >> And whether it was at Ray's insistence >> And whether it was at Ray's insistence >> And whether it was at Ray's insistence or not, Nancy took action. Out of the or not, Nancy took action. Out of the or not, Nancy took action. Out of the blue, she traded in her Cadillac, blue, she traded in her Cadillac, blue, she traded in her Cadillac, [music] had her social security payments [music] had her social security payments [music] had her social security payments transferred to a debit card, and sold transferred to a debit card, and sold transferred to a debit card, and sold the home she lived in most of her life the home she lived in most of her life the home she lived in most of her life for $50,000 in cash. for $50,000 in cash. for $50,000 in cash. >> They were going to leave together and >> They were going to leave together and >> They were going to leave together and start this new life and go find property start this new life and go find property start this new life and go find property somewhere else. somewhere else. somewhere else. >> Where? >> Where? >> Where? >> She didn't know. >> She didn't know. >> She didn't know. Just wherever the wind took them. Just wherever the wind took them. Just wherever the wind took them. >> Nancy's kids tried to convince her to at >> Nancy's kids tried to convince her to at >> Nancy's kids tried to convince her to at least keep the house in case anything least keep the house in case anything least keep the house in case anything went wrong, but Nancy was set on running went wrong, but Nancy was set on running went wrong, but Nancy was set on running off with the man Sherry hadn't even met off with the man Sherry hadn't even met off with the man Sherry hadn't even met yet.

yet. yet. >> I didn't meet Ray until right before >> I didn't meet Ray until right before >> I didn't meet Ray until right before they left. That's the only time I ever they left. That's the only time I ever they left. That's the only time I ever met Ray. He was in the house for a few met Ray. He was in the house for a few met Ray. He was in the house for a few minutes and then he was outside and minutes and then he was outside and minutes and then he was outside and packing the truck as fast as he could packing the truck as fast as he could packing the truck as fast as he could and it was a very quick in and out. When and it was a very quick in and out. When and it was a very quick in and out. When she left my house that [music] day, she left my house that [music] day, she left my house that [music] day, I kind of had a feeling in the pit of my I kind of had a feeling in the pit of my I kind of had a feeling in the pit of my stomach that I might never see her stomach that I might never see her stomach that I might never see her again. again. again. But there was no stopping her. We tried. But there was no stopping her. We tried. But there was no stopping her. We tried. >> Still, before Ray drove their mom off >> Still, before Ray drove their mom off >> Still, before Ray drove their mom off into the sunset, Nancy's son wrote down into the sunset, Nancy's son wrote down into the sunset, Nancy's son wrote down the license plate number on his RV and the license plate number on his RV and the license plate number on his RV and filed it away just in case. In the first few days after Nancy left, In the first few days after Nancy left, Sherry got sick and like most kids, Sherry got sick and like most kids, Sherry got sick and like most kids, regardless of age, she wanted her mom. regardless of age, she wanted her mom. regardless of age, she wanted her mom. >> They left >> They left >> They left June June June 2nd. 2nd. 2nd. The last time [music] we spoke with her The last time [music] we spoke with her The last time [music] we spoke with her was June 5th. And um was June 5th. And um was June 5th. And um her last words to me that day were, her last words to me that day were, her last words to me that day were, "Well, let God's will be done." "Well, let God's will be done." "Well, let God's will be done." It's okay, Mama. I love you and that was It's okay, Mama. I love you and that was It's okay, Mama. I love you and that was the last time I talked with her.

the last time I talked with her. the last time I talked with her. >> But then finally, 2 months after she >> But then finally, 2 months after she >> But then finally, 2 months after she seemed to drop off the face of the seemed to drop off the face of the seemed to drop off the face of the earth, earth, earth, Nancy's loved ones started getting Nancy's loved ones started getting Nancy's loved ones started getting emails. She claimed to be happier than emails. She claimed to be happier than emails. She claimed to be happier than ever, living off the grid somewhere in ever, living off the grid somewhere in ever, living off the grid somewhere in the mountains of New Mexico. But Nancy's the mountains of New Mexico. But Nancy's the mountains of New Mexico. But Nancy's kids weren't so sure. kids weren't so sure. kids weren't so sure. >> Just from the tone and everything of >> Just from the tone and everything of >> Just from the tone and everything of those emails, those emails, those emails, we knew that it wasn't her writing. we knew that it wasn't her writing. we knew that it wasn't her writing. >> And when Sherry looked closer, she >> And when Sherry looked closer, she >> And when Sherry looked closer, she realized it wasn't even her mom's email. realized it wasn't even her mom's email. realized it wasn't even her mom's email. >> He changed around two of the letters in >> He changed around two of the letters in >> He changed around two of the letters in her her her email address. Because her email address email address. Because her email address email address. Because her email address was Arizona cactus [music] was Arizona cactus [music] was Arizona cactus [music] wren. wren. wren. Well, he had changed it to where it was Well, he had changed it to where it was Well, he had changed it to where it was Arizona cat-cuss wren. Arizona cat-cuss wren. Arizona cat-cuss wren. So, the C and the T had been flipped So, the C and the T had been flipped So, the C and the T had been flipped [music] around. [music] around. [music] around. >> Unless you were paying attention and had >> Unless you were paying attention and had >> Unless you were paying attention and had a careful eye, a careful eye, a careful eye, you wouldn't have noticed. you wouldn't have noticed. you wouldn't have noticed. >> have noticed. >> have noticed. >> have noticed. >> It was enough for Sherry's sister, >> It was enough for Sherry's sister, >> It was enough for Sherry's sister, Denise, to go to authorities. But when Denise, to go to authorities. But when Denise, to go to authorities. But when police start digging, they get a very police start digging, they get a very police start digging, they get a very different story from none other than different story from none other than different story from none other than Nancy herself. Or so it seemed. Nancy herself. Or so it seemed. Nancy herself. Or so it seemed. >> The deputy who took the initial report >> The deputy who took the initial report >> The deputy who took the initial report was able to talk to someone who was able to talk to someone who was able to talk to someone who indicated that they were Nancy indicated that they were Nancy indicated that they were Nancy >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> and that they wanted to start a new life >> and that they wanted to start a new life >> and that they wanted to start a new life elsewhere and were not interested in elsewhere and were not interested in elsewhere and were not interested in having any further contact with her having any further contact with her having any further contact with her family. So, family. So, family. So, the case really wasn't going anywhere.

the case really wasn't going anywhere. the case really wasn't going anywhere. >> It was devastating news, no matter how >> It was devastating news, no matter how >> It was devastating news, no matter how Nancy's kids looked at it. Either Nancy's kids looked at it. Either Nancy's kids looked at it. Either someone was pretending to be their mom someone was pretending to be their mom someone was pretending to be their mom for who knows why, or their mom was for who knows why, or their mom was for who knows why, or their mom was alive and well and suddenly wanted alive and well and suddenly wanted alive and well and suddenly wanted nothing to do with them. nothing to do with them. nothing to do with them. >> The Mojave County Sheriff's Deputy >> The Mojave County Sheriff's Deputy >> The Mojave County Sheriff's Deputy pretty much dropped it as a case after pretty much dropped it as a case after pretty much dropped it as a case after that, but Denise wasn't about to give up that, but Denise wasn't about to give up that, but Denise wasn't about to give up and neither was her sister. and neither was her sister. and neither was her sister. >> Even though they had no hard evidence, >> Even though they had no hard evidence, >> Even though they had no hard evidence, what Nancy's family did have was a story what Nancy's family did have was a story what Nancy's family did have was a story and Nancy's younger daughter, Denise, and Nancy's younger daughter, Denise, and Nancy's younger daughter, Denise, took it straight to the Daily Miner took it straight to the Daily Miner took it straight to the Daily Miner reporter, Doug McMurdo. reporter, Doug McMurdo. reporter, Doug McMurdo. >> I went from >> I went from >> I went from I've seen this movie before to wait a I've seen this movie before to wait a I've seen this movie before to wait a minute, I haven't seen this movie minute, I haven't seen this movie minute, I haven't seen this movie before. before. before. >> After hearing all the strange details, >> After hearing all the strange details, >> After hearing all the strange details, Doug started typing and soon the story Doug started typing and soon the story Doug started typing and soon the story of Nancy Hearts was front page news, but of Nancy Hearts was front page news, but of Nancy Hearts was front page news, but even Doug had no way of knowing what an even Doug had no way of knowing what an even Doug had no way of knowing what an impact his article would have. impact his article would have. impact his article would have. >> Uh after it was published, there was an >> Uh after it was published, there was an >> Uh after it was published, there was an outpouring of concern from the community outpouring of concern from the community outpouring of concern from the community and uh I know that people made Denise and uh I know that people made Denise and uh I know that people made Denise aware of aware of aware of I think a couple of private eyes I think a couple of private eyes I think a couple of private eyes and uh one of them, Lyle Sharman, and uh one of them, Lyle Sharman, and uh one of them, Lyle Sharman, uh actually started working for her and uh actually started working for her and uh actually started working for her and he was able to uh he was able to uh he was able to uh as they say, break the case open.

as they say, break the case open. as they say, break the case open. >> At 71 years old, Nancy Rae Hearts dove >> At 71 years old, Nancy Rae Hearts dove >> At 71 years old, Nancy Rae Hearts dove headlong into the online dating pool headlong into the online dating pool headlong into the online dating pool and never resurfaced. and never resurfaced. and never resurfaced. >> Well, she was looking for was just >> Well, she was looking for was just >> Well, she was looking for was just someone to love and someone to love her. someone to love and someone to love her. someone to love and someone to love her. >> The person she ran off with was this >> The person she ran off with was this >> The person she ran off with was this man, someone who called himself Ray. man, someone who called himself Ray. man, someone who called himself Ray. >> Why was it so significant that the Daily >> Why was it so significant that the Daily >> Why was it so significant that the Daily Miner broke the story? Miner broke the story? Miner broke the story? >> The community read it, uh people outside >> The community read it, uh people outside >> The community read it, uh people outside of the community read it and uh Lyle of the community read it and uh Lyle of the community read it and uh Lyle Sharman was introduced to Denise [music] Sharman was introduced to Denise [music] Sharman was introduced to Denise [music] and Sherry. and Sherry. and Sherry. >> Lyle Sharman, a private investigator who >> Lyle Sharman, a private investigator who >> Lyle Sharman, a private investigator who at the time had 34 missing persons cases at the time had 34 missing persons cases at the time had 34 missing persons cases under his belt. After meeting with under his belt. After meeting with under his belt. After meeting with Nancy's kids, he made it 35. Nancy's kids, he made it 35. Nancy's kids, he made it 35. >> In this case, my action plan was simple. >> In this case, my action plan was simple. >> In this case, my action plan was simple. It was [music] try to make contact with It was [music] try to make contact with It was [music] try to make contact with Nancy Hearts. One of the first things Nancy Hearts. One of the first things Nancy Hearts. One of the first things that I did was took a look at the emails that I did was took a look at the emails that I did was took a look at the emails that the family gave me. One email was that the family gave me. One email was that the family gave me. One email was from Nancy Harts. The second email was from Nancy Harts. The second email was from Nancy Harts. The second email was from the guy that she disappeared with from the guy that she disappeared with from the guy that she disappeared with who went by Ray. who went by Ray. who went by Ray. >> Surprisingly, Lyle gets a reply almost >> Surprisingly, Lyle gets a reply almost >> Surprisingly, Lyle gets a reply almost immediately from Ray.

immediately from Ray. immediately from Ray. >> He went on to say that that uh Nancy was >> He went on to say that that uh Nancy was >> He went on to say that that uh Nancy was fine, that she no longer wanted anything fine, that she no longer wanted anything fine, that she no longer wanted anything to do with her family. I responded back to do with her family. I responded back to do with her family. I responded back to him and said, "In either of that, I to him and said, "In either of that, I to him and said, "In either of that, I need to speak [music] to Nancy Harts. need to speak [music] to Nancy Harts. need to speak [music] to Nancy Harts. So, just have her call me." So, just have her call me." So, just have her call me." >> The ultimatum paid off. >> The ultimatum paid off. >> The ultimatum paid off. >> I was driving down the road, it was like >> I was driving down the road, it was like >> I was driving down the road, it was like 3 days later, and uh my phone rang. 3 days later, and uh my phone rang. 3 days later, and uh my phone rang. And she claimed that it was Nancy Harts. And she claimed that it was Nancy Harts. And she claimed that it was Nancy Harts. >> But the PI wasn't satisfied, and since >> But the PI wasn't satisfied, and since >> But the PI wasn't satisfied, and since he'd never heard the real Nancy's voice, he'd never heard the real Nancy's voice, he'd never heard the real Nancy's voice, he asked if they could schedule another he asked if they could schedule another he asked if they could schedule another call, one he could record on the sly. call, one he could record on the sly. call, one he could record on the sly. In the meantime, Lyle had the number In the meantime, Lyle had the number In the meantime, Lyle had the number traced. traced. traced. >> So, the phone number came back to an >> So, the phone number came back to an >> So, the phone number came back to an apartment complex in [music] Las Vegas. apartment complex in [music] Las Vegas. apartment complex in [music] Las Vegas. We kind of surveyed for a while, and We kind of surveyed for a while, and We kind of surveyed for a while, and then we eventually just went to the then we eventually just went to the then we eventually just went to the apartment, knocked on [music] the door. apartment, knocked on [music] the door. apartment, knocked on [music] the door. It was obvious within couple of minutes It was obvious within couple of minutes It was obvious within couple of minutes that Nancy Harts was not going to be at that Nancy Harts was not going to be at that Nancy Harts was not going to be at that location. that location. that location. >> A false lead. >> A false lead. >> A false lead. >> What we learned about that phone number >> What we learned about that phone number >> What we learned about that phone number was when the account was created, Ray was when the account was created, Ray was when the account was created, Ray had obviously used someone else's had obviously used someone else's had obviously used someone else's address with someone else's name.

address with someone else's name. address with someone else's name. >> While he waited for that next call, Lyle >> While he waited for that next call, Lyle >> While he waited for that next call, Lyle got with Denise and Sherry to devise a got with Denise and Sherry to devise a got with Denise and Sherry to devise a plan. plan. plan. >> I said, "I want you to give me three >> I said, "I want you to give me three >> I said, "I want you to give me three questions that only your mother would questions that only your mother would questions that only your mother would know." know." know." >> And as a wild card, Lyle decided to >> And as a wild card, Lyle decided to >> And as a wild card, Lyle decided to throw in a fourth question not even the throw in a fourth question not even the throw in a fourth question not even the real Nancy would know. real Nancy would know. real Nancy would know. Then, after several days of anxious Then, after several days of anxious Then, after several days of anxious waiting, waiting, waiting, the call came in. the call came in. the call came in. >> Hey, I I hate to bother you again. I >> Hey, I I hate to bother you again. I >> Hey, I I hate to bother you again. I know you're you're kind of tired of all know you're you're kind of tired of all know you're you're kind of tired of all this and stuff, but I I'm trying to do this and stuff, but I I'm trying to do this and stuff, but I I'm trying to do everything I can to just prove to your everything I can to just prove to your everything I can to just prove to your daughter that you're that you're okay so daughter that you're that you're okay so daughter that you're that you're okay so that I can just end this case. that I can just end this case. that I can just end this case. >> Okay. [music] I have talked to Denise on >> Okay. [music] I have talked to Denise on >> Okay. [music] I have talked to Denise on the phone twice in the past month. the phone twice in the past month. the phone twice in the past month. >> That was news to Denise, but Lyle played >> That was news to Denise, but Lyle played >> That was news to Denise, but Lyle played along and once he established a rapport, along and once he established a rapport, along and once he established a rapport, it was time to start getting more it was time to start getting more it was time to start getting more personal. personal. personal. Question one. Question one. Question one. >> What was the name of the old man that >> What was the name of the old man that >> What was the name of the old man that lived across the street when we were lived across the street when we were lived across the street when we were kids? kids? kids? >> The person talking to Lyle didn't have >> The person talking to Lyle didn't have >> The person talking to Lyle didn't have an answer, but they did have an excuse. an answer, but they did have an excuse. an answer, but they did have an excuse. >> Maybe I need to explain. For instance, >> Maybe I need to explain. For instance, >> Maybe I need to explain. For instance, the old guy that babysat them, the old guy that babysat them, the old guy that babysat them, that surprised [music] me because that surprised [music] me because that surprised [music] me because he molested both my girls.

he molested both my girls. he molested both my girls. >> In response to that claim, >> In response to that claim, >> In response to that claim, >> we used to make fun of him and call him >> we used to make fun of him and call him >> we used to make fun of him and call him bird watcher. bird watcher. bird watcher. >> Question two. >> Question two. >> Question two. >> What did my papa call me? >> What did my papa call me? >> What did my papa call me? >> Surely Denise's mother would remember >> Surely Denise's mother would remember >> Surely Denise's mother would remember something like that. Instead, something like that. Instead, something like that. Instead, >> he couldn't stand her because she was >> he couldn't stand her because she was >> he couldn't stand her because she was the result of an affair that I had. the result of an affair that I had. the result of an affair that I had. >> Denise, what do you make of that? >> Denise, what do you make of that? >> Denise, what do you make of that? >> My papa was my grandfather and he used >> My papa was my grandfather and he used >> My papa was my grandfather and he used to call me his Durango doll. So, that's to call me his Durango doll. So, that's to call me his Durango doll. So, that's mind-blowing to me. mind-blowing to me. mind-blowing to me. >> Questions three and four produced even >> Questions three and four produced even >> Questions three and four produced even more suspicious answers, but it was this more suspicious answers, but it was this more suspicious answers, but it was this one that really got Lyle's attention. one that really got Lyle's attention. one that really got Lyle's attention. >> The color of the Dodge Charger that you >> The color of the Dodge Charger that you >> The color of the Dodge Charger that you drove when they were little, was that a drove when they were little, was that a drove when they were little, was that a legitimate question or legitimate question or legitimate question or >> Oh, I didn't he didn't have a Charger >> Oh, I didn't he didn't have a Charger >> Oh, I didn't he didn't have a Charger and it was that bluish-green color. and it was that bluish-green color. and it was that bluish-green color. >> Not only was the real car a completely >> Not only was the real car a completely >> Not only was the real car a completely different color, different color, different color, >> she never owned a Dodge Charger. >> she never owned a Dodge Charger. >> she never owned a Dodge Charger. My mother owned a Dodge Charger. I made My mother owned a Dodge Charger. I made My mother owned a Dodge Charger. I made the question up for my own family. the question up for my own family. the question up for my own family. >> But then it didn't really matter what >> But then it didn't really matter what >> But then it didn't really matter what the person was saying.

the person was saying. the person was saying. >> The first two words out of her mouth, my >> The first two words out of her mouth, my >> The first two words out of her mouth, my sister and I looked at each other and sister and I looked at each other and sister and I looked at each other and the tears just rolled down our faces. We the tears just rolled down our faces. We the tears just rolled down our faces. We knew knew knew that was not our mother on that that was not our mother on that that was not our mother on that recording. recording. recording. >> At Lyle's insistence, Denise sets up >> At Lyle's insistence, Denise sets up >> At Lyle's insistence, Denise sets up another meeting with the sheriff's another meeting with the sheriff's another meeting with the sheriff's office and after listening to the new office and after listening to the new office and after listening to the new evidence, they agreed to reopen the evidence, they agreed to reopen the evidence, they agreed to reopen the investigation. investigation. investigation. One of the first things Nancy's family One of the first things Nancy's family One of the first things Nancy's family gives them is that license plate number gives them is that license plate number gives them is that license plate number her son wrote down just seconds before her son wrote down just seconds before her son wrote down just seconds before Ray drove her off to destination Ray drove her off to destination Ray drove her off to destination unknown. unknown. unknown. >> When we started looking into Ray, we >> When we started looking into Ray, we >> When we started looking into Ray, we found that the name he was using was found that the name he was using was found that the name he was using was actually a stolen identity from an actually a stolen identity from an actually a stolen identity from an individual in the eastern [music] part individual in the eastern [music] part individual in the eastern [music] part of the United States. of the United States. of the United States. >> That name was James Browning Wyeth, and >> That name was James Browning Wyeth, and >> That name was James Browning Wyeth, and the individual it belongs to is actually the individual it belongs to is actually the individual it belongs to is actually a famous painter in the art world. a famous painter in the art world. a famous painter in the art world. >> Even using his real social security >> Even using his real social security >> Even using his real social security number and his date of birth. So, we number and his date of birth. So, we number and his date of birth. So, we reached [music] out to the real James reached [music] out to the real James reached [music] out to the real James Wyeth, and he ended up filing, you know, Wyeth, and he ended up filing, you know, Wyeth, and he ended up filing, you know, some reports. some reports. some reports. >> Authorities begin searching for the man >> Authorities begin searching for the man >> Authorities begin searching for the man of many aliases, knowing he could be of many aliases, knowing he could be of many aliases, knowing he could be anywhere from Mexico to Montana, or he anywhere from Mexico to Montana, or he anywhere from Mexico to Montana, or he could be right next door.

could be right next door. could be right next door. >> He was arrested on the 13th [music] of >> He was arrested on the 13th [music] of >> He was arrested on the 13th [music] of April in Yuca, Arizona. April in Yuca, Arizona. April in Yuca, Arizona. >> Just 22 miles from where Nancy >> Just 22 miles from where Nancy >> Just 22 miles from where Nancy disappeared. disappeared. disappeared. >> We were able to arrest him on >> We were able to arrest him on >> We were able to arrest him on >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> the stolen identity and false >> the stolen identity and false >> the stolen identity and false information charges. information charges. information charges. >> Even more outrageous, >> Even more outrageous, >> Even more outrageous, he was found living with the woman who, he was found living with the woman who, he was found living with the woman who, like Nancy, had just sold all of her like Nancy, had just sold all of her like Nancy, had just sold all of her belongings to start a new life with this belongings to start a new life with this belongings to start a new life with this mystery man. mystery man. mystery man. >> We don't believe she's an accomplice at >> We don't believe she's an accomplice at >> We don't believe she's an accomplice at all. She's been very cooperative, and we all. She's been very cooperative, and we all. She's been very cooperative, and we certainly believe that she could have certainly believe that she could have certainly believe that she could have been the next victim. been the next victim. been the next victim. >> We tried to track down the woman for >> We tried to track down the woman for >> We tried to track down the woman for comment, only to find she's gone back to comment, only to find she's gone back to comment, only to find she's gone back to her family in California. As for the man her family in California. As for the man her family in California. As for the man she may have just narrowly escaped, she may have just narrowly escaped, she may have just narrowly escaped, his real name is Robert Carnahan, a his real name is Robert Carnahan, a his real name is Robert Carnahan, a Canadian citizen who has somehow been Canadian citizen who has somehow been Canadian citizen who has somehow been living illegally in the US since 1993. living illegally in the US since 1993. living illegally in the US since 1993. >> How many aliases did he go [music] by? >> How many aliases did he go [music] by? >> How many aliases did he go [music] by? >> Uh 16 or 17. >> Uh 16 or 17. >> Uh 16 or 17. >> And that's not even including the stolen >> And that's not even including the stolen >> And that's not even including the stolen identity.

identity. identity. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> So, this guy There is an elaborate con >> So, this guy There is an elaborate con >> So, this guy There is an elaborate con man. man. man. >> Oh, he's very good at playing someone >> Oh, he's very good at playing someone >> Oh, he's very good at playing someone else, yes. else, yes. else, yes. >> But is he just a con man or something >> But is he just a con man or something >> But is he just a con man or something much worse? much worse? much worse? >> He has admitted that he knows Nancy. He >> He has admitted that he knows Nancy. He >> He has admitted that he knows Nancy. He claims that the last time he saw her was claims that the last time he saw her was claims that the last time he saw her was about a month before he was arrested. about a month before he was arrested. about a month before he was arrested. >> He dropped her off at a local business >> He dropped her off at a local business >> He dropped her off at a local business and never saw her again, according to and never saw her again, according to and never saw her again, according to him. him. him. >> So then, where is she? When police >> So then, where is she? When police >> So then, where is she? When police searched Robert's home in Yucca, [music] searched Robert's home in Yucca, [music] searched Robert's home in Yucca, [music] they found several guns, one with the they found several guns, one with the they found several guns, one with the serial number filed off. And that's not serial number filed off. And that's not serial number filed off. And that's not all. all. all. >> Were you able to find any of Nancy's >> Were you able to find any of Nancy's >> Were you able to find any of Nancy's belongings, personal possessions [music] belongings, personal possessions [music] belongings, personal possessions [music] with him? with him? with him? >> We did find some things that belong to >> We did find some things that belong to >> We did find some things that belong to Nancy, yes. Nancy, yes. Nancy, yes. >> You able to share what that is? >> You able to share what that is? >> You able to share what that is? >> No, we're not, not at this time. >> No, we're not, not at this time. >> No, we're not, not at this time. >> The fake calls, the new woman, for >> The fake calls, the new woman, for >> The fake calls, the new woman, for Sherry it all adds up to one very tragic Sherry it all adds up to one very tragic Sherry it all adds up to one very tragic conclusion. conclusion. conclusion. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> I know what he did to her. And I don't understand why And I don't understand why why he had to do that. Why couldn't you why he had to do that. Why couldn't you why he had to do that. Why couldn't you have just taken all of her money if have just taken all of her money if have just taken all of her money if that's what you wanted? Take it, it's that's what you wanted? Take it, it's that's what you wanted? Take it, it's just flipping money.

just flipping money. just flipping money. >> For now, that's only speculation, but >> For now, that's only speculation, but >> For now, that's only speculation, but just weeks ago, police also found a few just weeks ago, police also found a few just weeks ago, police also found a few very big new clues, clues that could very big new clues, clues that could very big new clues, clues that could change the entire course of the change the entire course of the change the entire course of the investigation. investigation. investigation. On a computer in the Yucca home, On a computer in the Yucca home, On a computer in the Yucca home, deputies discovered the names and deputies discovered the names and deputies discovered the names and numbers of at least two different women. numbers of at least two different women. numbers of at least two different women. >> We began trying to find >> We began trying to find >> We began trying to find >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> these women, whether there was anything >> these women, whether there was anything >> these women, whether there was anything about this gentleman that they could about this gentleman that they could about this gentleman that they could help us with so that maybe we could find help us with so that maybe we could find help us with so that maybe we could find Nancy. And what we found was that Nancy. And what we found was that Nancy. And what we found was that these ladies are also missing. >> Meeting up with a man she knew as Ray, >> Meeting up with a man she knew as Ray, 71-year-old Nancy Hart vanished. And 71-year-old Nancy Hart vanished. And 71-year-old Nancy Hart vanished. And after arresting him for forgery, after arresting him for forgery, after arresting him for forgery, identity theft, and weapons charges, identity theft, and weapons charges, identity theft, and weapons charges, police were about to learn she wasn't police were about to learn she wasn't police were about to learn she wasn't the man's only missing mate. the man's only missing mate. the man's only missing mate. >> As far as we can tell, he would find his >> As far as we can tell, he would find his >> As far as we can tell, he would find his way into the lives of uh way into the lives of uh way into the lives of uh of older women and that he wanted to of older women and that he wanted to of older women and that he wanted to have a life with them.

have a life with them. have a life with them. >> While searching for clues to Nancy's >> While searching for clues to Nancy's >> While searching for clues to Nancy's disappearance, deputies came across the disappearance, deputies came across the disappearance, deputies came across the names of at least two different missing names of at least two different missing names of at least two different missing women. Las Vegas local Neva Lindley, who women. Las Vegas local Neva Lindley, who women. Las Vegas local Neva Lindley, who was last seen in 2011, and Dolan was last seen in 2011, and Dolan was last seen in 2011, and Dolan Springs, Arizona resident Verna Clinton, Springs, Arizona resident Verna Clinton, Springs, Arizona resident Verna Clinton, last seen in 2008. last seen in 2008. last seen in 2008. >> Three women are missing and the only >> Three women are missing and the only >> Three women are missing and the only thing they have in common is this guy. >> Though the women knew him by other >> Though the women knew him by other names, authorities learned he is really names, authorities learned he is really names, authorities learned he is really 69-year-old Robert Carnahan, a Canadian 69-year-old Robert Carnahan, a Canadian 69-year-old Robert Carnahan, a Canadian citizen living here illegally for nearly citizen living here illegally for nearly citizen living here illegally for nearly 30 years. 30 years. 30 years. >> Would you say Carnahan is just really >> Would you say Carnahan is just really >> Would you say Carnahan is just really good con man, or is there something more good con man, or is there something more good con man, or is there something more sinister at play? sinister at play? sinister at play? >> Well, first he is a really good con man, >> Well, first he is a really good con man, >> Well, first he is a really good con man, and we do believe there is something and we do believe there is something and we do believe there is something more sinister at play. more sinister at play. more sinister at play. >> According to the suspected scam artist >> According to the suspected scam artist >> According to the suspected scam artist himself, the last time he saw any of the himself, the last time he saw any of the himself, the last time he saw any of the women, they were alive and well. So women, they were alive and well. So women, they were alive and well. So then, why has no one heard from them then, why has no one heard from them then, why has no one heard from them since? since? since? >> What did you stumble upon here?

>> What did you stumble upon here? >> What did you stumble upon here? >> Well, I believe it's much bigger than >> Well, I believe it's much bigger than >> Well, I believe it's much bigger than someone just left home because they someone just left home because they someone just left home because they wanted to start a new life. wanted to start a new life. wanted to start a new life. >> Mohave County sheriffs are currently >> Mohave County sheriffs are currently >> Mohave County sheriffs are currently working with several agencies, including working with several agencies, including working with several agencies, including the FBI and the Department of Homeland the FBI and the Department of Homeland the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security, to unravel the mystery of Security, to unravel the mystery of Security, to unravel the mystery of Robert Carnahan and to help fill in Robert Carnahan and to help fill in Robert Carnahan and to help fill in certain blanks, like if it wasn't Nancy certain blanks, like if it wasn't Nancy certain blanks, like if it wasn't Nancy Hart's making those phone calls, who was Hart's making those phone calls, who was Hart's making those phone calls, who was it? it? it? >> If a voice imprint can be done on not >> If a voice imprint can be done on not >> If a voice imprint can be done on not just that recording, but recordings of just that recording, but recordings of just that recording, but recordings of his actual voice, his actual voice, his actual voice, we are having that done as we speak. we are having that done as we speak. we are having that done as we speak. >> In addition, private investigator Lyle >> In addition, private investigator Lyle >> In addition, private investigator Lyle Sharman continues to work the case and Sharman continues to work the case and Sharman continues to work the case and began searching the northern Arizona began searching the northern Arizona began searching the northern Arizona desert with cadaver dogs just yesterday. desert with cadaver dogs just yesterday. desert with cadaver dogs just yesterday. Do you think there are other victims out Do you think there are other victims out Do you think there are other victims out there besides Nancy? there besides Nancy? there besides Nancy? >> I'm confident that there's other victims >> I'm confident that there's other victims >> I'm confident that there's other victims out there. out there. out there. >> Today, police will only say that Robert >> Today, police will only say that Robert >> Today, police will only say that Robert Carnegy is an official person of Carnegy is an official person of Carnegy is an official person of interest in the women's disappearances, interest in the women's disappearances, interest in the women's disappearances, but investigators are building their but investigators are building their but investigators are building their case and asking for help from anyone who case and asking for help from anyone who case and asking for help from anyone who may recognize this face. Do you believe may recognize this face. Do you believe may recognize this face. Do you believe there are even more victims than the two there are even more victims than the two there are even more victims than the two additional [music] ones?

additional [music] ones? additional [music] ones? >> There certainly could be and that's one >> There certainly could be and that's one >> There certainly could be and that's one of the reasons that we hope that anyone of the reasons that we hope that anyone of the reasons that we hope that anyone who sees who sees who sees the suspect's the suspect's the suspect's photographs and has had dealings with photographs and has had dealings with photographs and has had dealings with him will contact us. him will contact us. him will contact us. >> For now, Robert Carnegy is in jail on a >> For now, Robert Carnegy is in jail on a >> For now, Robert Carnegy is in jail on a $32,000 bond after pleading not guilty $32,000 bond after pleading not guilty $32,000 bond after pleading not guilty to all charges. to all charges. to all charges. >> I think that Denise and Shari would be >> I think that Denise and Shari would be >> I think that Denise and Shari would be wise to wise to wise to prepare themselves for the worst. prepare themselves for the worst. prepare themselves for the worst. >> I know what's happened to her. >> I know what's happened to her. >> I know what's happened to her. There's not a doubt in my mind what's There's not a doubt in my mind what's There's not a doubt in my mind what's happened to her. happened to her. happened to her. But Why did you have to do that? But why? Why did you have to do that? But why? You didn't have to do that. The sad thing is she was just looking The sad thing is she was just looking for someone to love her.