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To everyone who knows them, Lyall and To everyone who knows them, Lyall and Leslie Herring are a happy and Leslie Herring are a happy and Leslie Herring are a happy and successful couple. But what they don't successful couple. But what they don't successful couple. But what they don't know about is the trouble brewing in know about is the trouble brewing in know about is the trouble brewing in this marriage that will bring about this marriage that will bring about this marriage that will bring about horrific consequences. horrific consequences. horrific consequences. Leslie came from Guyana with her family Leslie came from Guyana with her family Leslie came from Guyana with her family as a child and built her American dream as a child and built her American dream as a child and built her American dream with persistence and hard work. And she with persistence and hard work. And she with persistence and hard work. And she comes from a close family of many comes from a close family of many comes from a close family of many talents. Her sister is actress Asha talents. Her sister is actress Asha talents. Her sister is actress Asha Davis. Their brother, Lyndon Telford, Davis. Their brother, Lyndon Telford, Davis. Their brother, Lyndon Telford, says Leslie was the rock-solid one of says Leslie was the rock-solid one of says Leslie was the rock-solid one of the bunch, but always with a smile. the bunch, but always with a smile. the bunch, but always with a smile. >> She had zero tolerance for nonsense, and >> She had zero tolerance for nonsense, and >> She had zero tolerance for nonsense, and she was the organizer. She was she was the organizer. She was she was the organizer. She was definitely the mother hen. definitely the mother hen. definitely the mother hen. >> 44-year-old Leslie works a desk job at a >> 44-year-old Leslie works a desk job at a >> 44-year-old Leslie works a desk job at a home security company in Los Angeles. home security company in Los Angeles. home security company in Los Angeles. Her husband of 11 years, 56-year-old Her husband of 11 years, 56-year-old Her husband of 11 years, 56-year-old Lyall Herring, is a college recruiter at Lyall Herring, is a college recruiter at Lyall Herring, is a college recruiter at Cal State Northridge. Cal State Northridge. Cal State Northridge. >> All the women in our family says, "Well, >> All the women in our family says, "Well, >> All the women in our family says, "Well, you know, he's a special guy." While the you know, he's a special guy." While the you know, he's a special guy." While the men would say, "There's something men would say, "There's something men would say, "There's something about this guy. He's up to something. We about this guy. He's up to something. We about this guy. He's up to something. We just can't put our finger on it. He's a just can't put our finger on it. He's a just can't put our finger on it. He's a smoother. He's a keep your wives and smoother. He's a keep your wives and smoother. He's a keep your wives and girlfriends locked up kind of thing, you girlfriends locked up kind of thing, you girlfriends locked up kind of thing, you know?"

know?" know?" >> The couple live in an upscale >> The couple live in an upscale >> The couple live in an upscale condominium near Hollywood. To all condominium near Hollywood. To all condominium near Hollywood. To all appearances, it is a normal lifestyle appearances, it is a normal lifestyle appearances, it is a normal lifestyle until the day when both of them until the day when both of them until the day when both of them mysteriously disappear into thin air. mysteriously disappear into thin air. mysteriously disappear into thin air. >> When Asha, my sister, called and said, >> When Asha, my sister, called and said, >> When Asha, my sister, called and said, um, "Leslie's job called and said that um, "Leslie's job called and said that um, "Leslie's job called and said that she didn't show up for work today." she didn't show up for work today." she didn't show up for work today." You know, 11 years, she never missed a You know, 11 years, she never missed a You know, 11 years, she never missed a day. day. day. So, uh, we called Lyall to find out So, uh, we called Lyall to find out So, uh, we called Lyall to find out where Lyall and Leslie was. We couldn't where Lyall and Leslie was. We couldn't where Lyall and Leslie was. We couldn't find either one of them. find either one of them. find either one of them. >> Right away, Leslie's family is alarmed. >> Right away, Leslie's family is alarmed. >> Right away, Leslie's family is alarmed. Simply picking up and leaving town Simply picking up and leaving town Simply picking up and leaving town without a word to anyone is not her without a word to anyone is not her without a word to anyone is not her style. style. style. >> It went to a point like, "Oh my god, >> It went to a point like, "Oh my god, >> It went to a point like, "Oh my god, what happened? Were they abducted? Are what happened? Were they abducted? Are what happened? Were they abducted? Are they dead? Were they in ditch line they dead? Were they in ditch line they dead? Were they in ditch line somewhere? Did they drown in their somewhere? Did they drown in their somewhere? Did they drown in their boat?" They had a, um, 60-ft sailboat boat?" They had a, um, 60-ft sailboat boat?" They had a, um, 60-ft sailboat that they used to take out. So, maybe that they used to take out. So, maybe that they used to take out. So, maybe they drowned on their boat. they drowned on their boat. they drowned on their boat. No, no, we didn't know. We couldn't find No, no, we didn't know. We couldn't find No, no, we didn't know. We couldn't find them. them. them. >> Hollywood Police Department Detective >> Hollywood Police Department Detective >> Hollywood Police Department Detective Chris Gable presses ahead. Chris Gable presses ahead. Chris Gable presses ahead. >> The house looked uh very clean, very >> The house looked uh very clean, very >> The house looked uh very clean, very nice. And except the nice. And except the nice. And except the couple of things that we noticed offhand couple of things that we noticed offhand couple of things that we noticed offhand was um there was some smoked candle wax was um there was some smoked candle wax was um there was some smoked candle wax on the kitchen counter. A pretty good on the kitchen counter. A pretty good on the kitchen counter. A pretty good amount as if a candle [music] had amount as if a candle [music] had amount as if a candle [music] had spilled over. And what we were already spilled over. And what we were already spilled over. And what we were already learning about Leslie is that's not the learning about Leslie is that's not the learning about Leslie is that's not the kind of thing that she would just leave kind of thing that she would just leave kind of thing that she would just leave out on the counter. So, that was a out on the counter. So, that was a out on the counter. So, that was a little unusual.

little unusual. little unusual. >> Almost 2 weeks after the disappearance >> Almost 2 weeks after the disappearance >> Almost 2 weeks after the disappearance of the couple, police get a big break in of the couple, police get a big break in of the couple, police get a big break in the case. Lyle is stopped in his car by the case. Lyle is stopped in his car by the case. Lyle is stopped in his car by police as he crosses the Mexican border police as he crosses the Mexican border police as he crosses the Mexican border into the United States. into the United States. into the United States. >> We put an alert on his vehicle and on >> We put an alert on his vehicle and on >> We put an alert on his vehicle and on his driver's license. And so, we went his driver's license. And so, we went his driver's license. And so, we went down there to speak to him at the down there to speak to him at the down there to speak to him at the border. border. border. >> What's Leslie going to tell you what? >> What's Leslie going to tell you what? >> What's Leslie going to tell you what? Leslie said she was Leslie said she was Leslie said she was going to send you what? going to send you what? going to send you what? >> Who did you try to contact? >> Who did you try to contact? >> Who did you try to contact? >> Leslie. >> Leslie. >> Leslie. >> Do you know where she is? >> Do you know where she is? >> Do you know where she is? >> I have no idea. >> I have no idea. >> I have no idea. >> She hasn't responded. >> She hasn't responded. >> She hasn't responded. Is that normal for her not to get in Is that normal for her not to get in Is that normal for her not to get in touch with you touch with you touch with you or respond to you? or respond to you? or respond to you? >> No, from this point moving forward, I >> No, from this point moving forward, I >> No, from this point moving forward, I have nothing else to say. have nothing else to say. have nothing else to say. >> Do you know anything about >> Do you know anything about >> Do you know anything about where she is? where she is? where she is? >> They had plans to go to Rosarito for >> They had plans to go to Rosarito for >> They had plans to go to Rosarito for Valentine's [music] Day. So, he went Valentine's [music] Day. So, he went Valentine's [music] Day. So, he went down and the reason he was in Mexico, down and the reason he was in Mexico, down and the reason he was in Mexico, according to Lyle, was to go down to according to Lyle, was to go down to according to Lyle, was to go down to search for her because that's where they search for her because that's where they search for her because that's where they had planned to go. had planned to go. had planned to go. >> Lyle later tells police he owed money to >> Lyle later tells police he owed money to >> Lyle later tells police he owed money to some shady characters who caught up with some shady characters who caught up with some shady characters who caught up with him and cut off his dreadlocks as him and cut off his dreadlocks as him and cut off his dreadlocks as punishment.

punishment. punishment. >> I worked the gang unit for several years >> I worked the gang unit for several years >> I worked the gang unit for several years and I've never ever heard of and I've never ever heard of and I've never ever heard of some gang members holding someone down some gang members holding someone down some gang members holding someone down to shave their head and shave their to shave their head and shave their to shave their head and shave their goatee off, you know, so that was a goatee off, you know, so that was a goatee off, you know, so that was a first. first. first. >> But police have no reason to keep Lyle >> But police have no reason to keep Lyle >> But police have no reason to keep Lyle detained. He goes back to his day job. detained. He goes back to his day job. detained. He goes back to his day job. And detectives go to work, too, slowly And detectives go to work, too, slowly And detectives go to work, too, slowly connecting the dots, connecting the dots, connecting the dots, >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> searching for Leslie and for any >> searching for Leslie and for any >> searching for Leslie and for any evidence of what happened to her. A evidence of what happened to her. A evidence of what happened to her. A letter they find in her bedside drawer letter they find in her bedside drawer letter they find in her bedside drawer shows that she's not happy about Lyle's shows that she's not happy about Lyle's shows that she's not happy about Lyle's money dealings either. In fact, she is money dealings either. In fact, she is money dealings either. In fact, she is furious and she wants out of this furious and she wants out of this furious and she wants out of this marriage. marriage. marriage. >> I can't take anymore. I am broken. >> I can't take anymore. I am broken. >> I can't take anymore. I am broken. >> They also find her purse with her >> They also find her purse with her >> They also find her purse with her jewelry inside it, something she never jewelry inside it, something she never jewelry inside it, something she never leaves home without. leaves home without. leaves home without. >> She wore them everywhere. >> She wore them everywhere. >> She wore them everywhere. So, we pulled a bunch of pictures of her So, we pulled a bunch of pictures of her So, we pulled a bunch of pictures of her wearing them on the boats, wearing them wearing them on the boats, wearing them wearing them on the boats, wearing them in the parties. The only time she took in the parties. The only time she took in the parties. The only time she took them off is when in is when she went to them off is when in is when she went to them off is when in is when she went to bed and she put them in the nightstand. bed and she put them in the nightstand. bed and she put them in the nightstand. >> In Leslie's purse, along with her >> In Leslie's purse, along with her >> In Leslie's purse, along with her jewelry, cops find a receipt from a jewelry, cops find a receipt from a jewelry, cops find a receipt from a local Starbucks dated on a Tuesday local Starbucks dated on a Tuesday local Starbucks dated on a Tuesday night, night, night, >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> 4 days after she went missing.

>> 4 days after she went missing. >> 4 days after she went missing. >> So, we thought, "Wow, Tuesday night, >> So, we thought, "Wow, Tuesday night, >> So, we thought, "Wow, Tuesday night, this is her purse. We'll go to this is her purse. We'll go to this is her purse. We'll go to Starbucks, see her on the video, see Starbucks, see her on the video, see Starbucks, see her on the video, see what's going on. Maybe her and Lyle are what's going on. Maybe her and Lyle are what's going on. Maybe her and Lyle are doing something." doing something." doing something." >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> Um so, we >> Um so, we >> Um so, we go over there and we pull the video. go over there and we pull the video. go over there and we pull the video. >> They hustle over to Starbucks to check >> They hustle over to Starbucks to check >> They hustle over to Starbucks to check the surveillance tape before it is the surveillance tape before it is the surveillance tape before it is erased. erased. erased. And look who walks in. And look who walks in. And look who walks in. The receipt was in Leslie's purse, but The receipt was in Leslie's purse, but The receipt was in Leslie's purse, but who do they find making the purchase? who do they find making the purchase? who do they find making the purchase? >> We find out that it's it's Lyle by >> We find out that it's it's Lyle by >> We find out that it's it's Lyle by himself buying [music] a single drink. himself buying [music] a single drink. himself buying [music] a single drink. Uh Leslie's nowhere to be seen. So, we Uh Leslie's nowhere to be seen. So, we Uh Leslie's nowhere to be seen. So, we thought that was pretty suspicious why thought that was pretty suspicious why thought that was pretty suspicious why that would be in there and [music] when that would be in there and [music] when that would be in there and [music] when and we thought, "Was that really and we thought, "Was that really and we thought, "Was that really you know, designed for us to find that? you know, designed for us to find that? you know, designed for us to find that? You know, maybe later down the road when You know, maybe later down the road when You know, maybe later down the road when the video wasn't available." the video wasn't available." the video wasn't available." >> Cops suspect Lyle may have planted the >> Cops suspect Lyle may have planted the >> Cops suspect Lyle may have planted the receipt in Leslie's purse as a receipt in Leslie's purse as a receipt in Leslie's purse as a misdirection. They turn to his personal misdirection. They turn to his personal misdirection. They turn to his personal computer and cell phone to see what else computer and cell phone to see what else computer and cell phone to see what else they can find. they can find. they can find. And what they come up with only deepens And what they come up with only deepens And what they come up with only deepens their concerns. their concerns. their concerns. Online searches for things like profile Online searches for things like profile Online searches for things like profile of a mass murderer, violent death and of a mass murderer, violent death and of a mass murderer, violent death and the soul, and 10 common methods of the soul, and 10 common methods of the soul, and 10 common methods of suicide. And only days after Leslie's suicide. And only days after Leslie's suicide. And only days after Leslie's disappearance, another mystery.

disappearance, another mystery. disappearance, another mystery. >> There were several calls between >> There were several calls between >> There were several calls between Leslie's phone and Lyle's phone. What he Leslie's phone and Lyle's phone. What he Leslie's phone and Lyle's phone. What he didn't think is that we would also track didn't think is that we would also track didn't think is that we would also track the cell tower usage and it showed that the cell tower usage and it showed that the cell tower usage and it showed that both phones were side by side both phones were side by side both phones were side by side when they were doing the calls. when they were doing the calls. when they were doing the calls. Suggesting that he's holding one phone Suggesting that he's holding one phone Suggesting that he's holding one phone calling the other one. calling the other one. calling the other one. >> Police are rapidly coming to the >> Police are rapidly coming to the >> Police are rapidly coming to the conclusion that Lyle has done something conclusion that Lyle has done something conclusion that Lyle has done something to Leslie, but they need more evidence. to Leslie, but they need more evidence. to Leslie, but they need more evidence. Specifically, they need Leslie dead or Specifically, they need Leslie dead or Specifically, they need Leslie dead or alive, or else alive, or else alive, or else >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> they might have no case at all. >> they might have no case at all. >> they might have no case at all. >> You know, in a typical murder case >> You know, in a typical murder case >> You know, in a typical murder case exhibit A is a photo of exhibit A is a photo of exhibit A is a photo of a dead body. a dead body. a dead body. Someone who's been shot, strangled, Someone who's been shot, strangled, Someone who's been shot, strangled, stabbed. stabbed. stabbed. Um and in a case like this, you don't Um and in a case like this, you don't Um and in a case like this, you don't have that. have that. have that. >> Leslie Herring has been missing for >> Leslie Herring has been missing for >> Leslie Herring has been missing for weeks and police still don't know her weeks and police still don't know her weeks and police still don't know her fate, but they fear the worst at the fate, but they fear the worst at the fate, but they fear the worst at the hands of her husband, Lyle. hands of her husband, Lyle. hands of her husband, Lyle. They ask Lyle to go before TV news They ask Lyle to go before TV news They ask Lyle to go before TV news cameras to plead for help in finding his cameras to plead for help in finding his cameras to plead for help in finding his missing wife. Cops figure it's an offer missing wife. Cops figure it's an offer missing wife. Cops figure it's an offer he can't refuse and it will also help he can't refuse and it will also help he can't refuse and it will also help shake the trees for witnesses.

shake the trees for witnesses. shake the trees for witnesses. >> If Leslie's out there listening to us, >> If Leslie's out there listening to us, >> If Leslie's out there listening to us, please give us a call, come home, let us please give us a call, come home, let us please give us a call, come home, let us know what's going on. know what's going on. know what's going on. Uh I know we have a lot to talk about. Uh I know we have a lot to talk about. Uh I know we have a lot to talk about. >> Days later, police meet with Lyle's >> Days later, police meet with Lyle's >> Days later, police meet with Lyle's cousin, Malcolm. He says he talked to cousin, Malcolm. He says he talked to cousin, Malcolm. He says he talked to Lyle in front of his condo shortly after Lyle in front of his condo shortly after Lyle in front of his condo shortly after Leslie disappeared. Leslie disappeared. Leslie disappeared. >> Lyle was very distraught. >> Lyle was very distraught. >> Lyle was very distraught. Uh he was [music] saying things that Uh he was [music] saying things that Uh he was [music] saying things that were really off the wall, like he said were really off the wall, like he said were really off the wall, like he said that he was going to burn in hell for that he was going to burn in hell for that he was going to burn in hell for what he did to Leslie. So, Malcolm what he did to Leslie. So, Malcolm what he did to Leslie. So, Malcolm thought, "Wow, this is this is really thought, "Wow, this is this is really thought, "Wow, this is this is really strange. I need to go and see if [music] strange. I need to go and see if [music] strange. I need to go and see if [music] Leslie's okay." So, he thought, "Well, Leslie's okay." So, he thought, "Well, Leslie's okay." So, he thought, "Well, ask to use the bathroom, you know." ask to use the bathroom, you know." ask to use the bathroom, you know." And so, he asked Lyle, he says, "Hey, And so, he asked Lyle, he says, "Hey, And so, he asked Lyle, he says, "Hey, can I use the bathroom?" And Lyle said, can I use the bathroom?" And Lyle said, can I use the bathroom?" And Lyle said, "Hmm, let me think about that. Nah, I "Hmm, let me think about that. Nah, I "Hmm, let me think about that. Nah, I don't think that's just a good idea." don't think that's just a good idea." don't think that's just a good idea." And from that point, Malcolm thought, And from that point, Malcolm thought, And from that point, Malcolm thought, "Wow, this there's something [music] "Wow, this there's something [music] "Wow, this there's something [music] really wrong here." really wrong here." really wrong here." And both bathrooms had numerous towels And both bathrooms had numerous towels And both bathrooms had numerous towels hanging up on them and they were all hanging up on them and they were all hanging up on them and they were all they were dry, but they were very they were dry, but they were very they were dry, but they were very wrinkled as if they were crunched wrinkled as if they were crunched wrinkled as if they were crunched together to soak up a flood or together to soak up a flood or together to soak up a flood or something. something. something. >> It leads to a possible shocking >> It leads to a possible shocking >> It leads to a possible shocking conclusion about Leslie's fate. conclusion about Leslie's fate. conclusion about Leslie's fate. >> One was really, really badly wet and >> One was really, really badly wet and >> One was really, really badly wet and molded. That's where they believe that molded. That's where they believe that molded. That's where they believe that he might have drowned her that night, he might have drowned her that night, he might have drowned her that night, that Saturday night. That night was the that Saturday night. That night was the that Saturday night. That night was the last time that Leslie ever a breath of last time that Leslie ever a breath of last time that Leslie ever a breath of air in her life. That's what they air in her life. That's what they air in her life. That's what they believe and I believe it, too.

believe and I believe it, too. believe and I believe it, too. >> If that's true, there's a body >> If that's true, there's a body >> If that's true, there's a body somewhere. somewhere. somewhere. And then, out of nowhere, a neighbor of And then, out of nowhere, a neighbor of And then, out of nowhere, a neighbor of Lyle's comes forward with an Lyle's comes forward with an Lyle's comes forward with an electrifying story about the night of electrifying story about the night of electrifying story about the night of Leslie's disappearance that leaves cops Leslie's disappearance that leaves cops Leslie's disappearance that leaves cops slack-jawed. slack-jawed. slack-jawed. >> Around midnight, he saw Lyle >> Around midnight, he saw Lyle >> Around midnight, he saw Lyle >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> wheeling a dolly >> wheeling a dolly >> wheeling a dolly way down the hallway to a far back way down the hallway to a far back way down the hallway to a far back elevator and on the dolly was a carpet elevator and on the dolly was a carpet elevator and on the dolly was a carpet which he described rolled up wide enough which he described rolled up wide enough which he described rolled up wide enough to contain a body. Lyle had this crazy to contain a body. Lyle had this crazy to contain a body. Lyle had this crazy look on his face. He had a hoodie pulled look on his face. He had a hoodie pulled look on his face. He had a hoodie pulled up. He was sweating and he [music] up. He was sweating and he [music] up. He was sweating and he [music] didn't even acknowledge the witness. didn't even acknowledge the witness. didn't even acknowledge the witness. >> Hard to believe we are talking about the >> Hard to believe we are talking about the >> Hard to believe we are talking about the same guy who was front and center at a same guy who was front and center at a same guy who was front and center at a vigil for his missing wife. vigil for his missing wife. vigil for his missing wife. Meanwhile, cops call in some backup. A Meanwhile, cops call in some backup. A Meanwhile, cops call in some backup. A four-legged detective named Indiana four-legged detective named Indiana four-legged detective named Indiana Bones. Bones. Bones. She's trained to find the scent of human She's trained to find the scent of human She's trained to find the scent of human remains. remains. remains. Cops have her check the trunk of Lyle's Cops have her check the trunk of Lyle's Cops have her check the trunk of Lyle's old Cadillac and in the back of his SUV. old Cadillac and in the back of his SUV. old Cadillac and in the back of his SUV. >> As it turned it out, we we got >> As it turned it out, we we got >> As it turned it out, we we got a positive hit from the cadaver dog in a positive hit from the cadaver dog in a positive hit from the cadaver dog in both of his vehicles.

both of his vehicles. both of his vehicles. >> The cars are parked about 200 yards >> The cars are parked about 200 yards >> The cars are parked about 200 yards apart in separate garages at the apart in separate garages at the apart in separate garages at the condominium complex. condominium complex. condominium complex. >> Our theory was is that after he murdered >> Our theory was is that after he murdered >> Our theory was is that after he murdered her, he took her down to his SUV and her, he took her down to his SUV and her, he took her down to his SUV and then he transferred her body over to an then he transferred her body over to an then he transferred her body over to an old vintage Cadillac that he owned. Puts old vintage Cadillac that he owned. Puts old vintage Cadillac that he owned. Puts her body in there, drives back to his her body in there, drives back to his her body in there, drives back to his condominium. Once he figures out what condominium. Once he figures out what condominium. Once he figures out what he's going to do, he puts the body back he's going to do, he puts the body back he's going to do, he puts the body back into the Mitsubishi and uses the into the Mitsubishi and uses the into the Mitsubishi and uses the Mitsubishi to Mitsubishi to Mitsubishi to discard a body. discard a body. discard a body. And that's why we got decomposition hits And that's why we got decomposition hits And that's why we got decomposition hits in both vehicles. in both vehicles. in both vehicles. >> Things are not looking good for Lyle, >> Things are not looking good for Lyle, >> Things are not looking good for Lyle, but cops don't move in on him yet. They but cops don't move in on him yet. They but cops don't move in on him yet. They still have no body, and without that, still have no body, and without that, still have no body, and without that, they'll need every shred of evidence they'll need every shred of evidence they'll need every shred of evidence they can get to make a convincing case they can get to make a convincing case they can get to make a convincing case for murder. for murder. for murder. >> The hardest part about one of these >> The hardest part about one of these >> The hardest part about one of these investigations is investigations is investigations is >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> is proving that she's no longer >> is proving that she's no longer >> is proving that she's no longer around. around. around. >> Leaving no stone unturned, detectives >> Leaving no stone unturned, detectives >> Leaving no stone unturned, detectives put a tracking device on Lyle's car. put a tracking device on Lyle's car. put a tracking device on Lyle's car. >> And we did live surveillance and GPS >> And we did live surveillance and GPS >> And we did live surveillance and GPS surveillance on Lyle in hopes that maybe surveillance on Lyle in hopes that maybe surveillance on Lyle in hopes that maybe [music] he would visit the [music] he would visit the [music] he would visit the uh where he may have disposed of body uh where he may have disposed of body uh where he may have disposed of body just to get that warm and fuzzy that just to get that warm and fuzzy that just to get that warm and fuzzy that everything was okay.

everything was okay. everything was okay. >> Sure enough, 2 days later, he leads them >> Sure enough, 2 days later, he leads them >> Sure enough, 2 days later, he leads them to a remote area in Griffith Park, less to a remote area in Griffith Park, less to a remote area in Griffith Park, less than 3 miles away from his condo at than 3 miles away from his condo at than 3 miles away from his condo at around 6:00 a.m. in the morning. around 6:00 a.m. in the morning. around 6:00 a.m. in the morning. >> Gets out of the car. He walks into this >> Gets out of the car. He walks into this >> Gets out of the car. He walks into this area where there's a couple of area where there's a couple of area where there's a couple of dumpsters. dumpsters. dumpsters. Walks around there, gets back in his Walks around there, gets back in his Walks around there, gets back in his car, and drives away. car, and drives away. car, and drives away. >> They call in the expert to have a sniff. >> They call in the expert to have a sniff. >> They call in the expert to have a sniff. >> We went out there with Indiana Bones, >> We went out there with Indiana Bones, >> We went out there with Indiana Bones, and we got a positive hit on a dirt and we got a positive hit on a dirt and we got a positive hit on a dirt mound, which is maybe 15 ft from a mound, which is maybe 15 ft from a mound, which is maybe 15 ft from a dumpster. dumpster. dumpster. >> Cops get to work digging up the mound. >> Cops get to work digging up the mound. >> Cops get to work digging up the mound. They are only one shovel full of dirt They are only one shovel full of dirt They are only one shovel full of dirt away from cracking this case, away from cracking this case, away from cracking this case, but they find nothing. but they find nothing. but they find nothing. And even the fine work of Indiana Bones And even the fine work of Indiana Bones And even the fine work of Indiana Bones only goes so far. only goes so far. only goes so far. >> Couldn't confirm that that was her body >> Couldn't confirm that that was her body >> Couldn't confirm that that was her body because it's Griffith Park. A lot of because it's Griffith Park. A lot of because it's Griffith Park. A lot of There's a lot of bodies that get dumped There's a lot of bodies that get dumped There's a lot of bodies that get dumped there, but it seemed to really sync up there, but it seemed to really sync up there, but it seemed to really sync up with everything that perhaps he backed with everything that perhaps he backed with everything that perhaps he backed his Mitsubishi in there, his Mitsubishi in there, his Mitsubishi in there, put her body on this dirt mound, and put her body on this dirt mound, and put her body on this dirt mound, and then transferred it to the dumpster. then transferred it to the dumpster. then transferred it to the dumpster. Those dumpsters go to Those dumpsters go to Those dumpsters go to a huge LA dump. And if that's the case, a huge LA dump. And if that's the case, a huge LA dump. And if that's the case, I don't think we'll ever recover her I don't think we'll ever recover her I don't think we'll ever recover her body.

body. body. >> It's a maddening puzzle missing only one >> It's a maddening puzzle missing only one >> It's a maddening puzzle missing only one crucial piece. With everything they now crucial piece. With everything they now crucial piece. With everything they now know, police are still dead certain that know, police are still dead certain that know, police are still dead certain that Lyle has done away with his wife. Lyle has done away with his wife. Lyle has done away with his wife. >> She was in that carpet. Yeah, >> She was in that carpet. Yeah, >> She was in that carpet. Yeah, absolutely. absolutely. absolutely. >> After 14 months of an exhaustive >> After 14 months of an exhaustive >> After 14 months of an exhaustive investigation, police drive over to investigation, police drive over to investigation, police drive over to Lyle's office at Cal State Northridge, Lyle's office at Cal State Northridge, Lyle's office at Cal State Northridge, and they arrest him. and they arrest him. and they arrest him. >> He was shocked that he was arrested. We >> He was shocked that he was arrested. We >> He was shocked that he was arrested. We um told him that someone something um told him that someone something um told him that someone something happened to his car, so we come outside happened to his car, so we come outside happened to his car, so we come outside so it wouldn't be in front of everyone. so it wouldn't be in front of everyone. so it wouldn't be in front of everyone. >> Lyle is charged with murder. Los Angeles >> Lyle is charged with murder. Los Angeles >> Lyle is charged with murder. Los Angeles Deputy District Attorney Sam Hoolifeld Deputy District Attorney Sam Hoolifeld Deputy District Attorney Sam Hoolifeld handles the prosecution, but there's handles the prosecution, but there's handles the prosecution, but there's still that one missing element. still that one missing element. still that one missing element. >> The obvious thing that's remarkable >> The obvious thing that's remarkable >> The obvious thing that's remarkable about this case is that there was no about this case is that there was no about this case is that there was no body. body. body. Most murders start and end Most murders start and end Most murders start and end with a body. with a body. with a body. And here we had to build a case without And here we had to build a case without And here we had to build a case without one. one. one. >> Whatever the odds against to getting a >> Whatever the odds against to getting a >> Whatever the odds against to getting a conviction, the prosecution is conviction, the prosecution is conviction, the prosecution is absolutely certain of their findings. absolutely certain of their findings. absolutely certain of their findings. They can only hope the jury will see They can only hope the jury will see They can only hope the jury will see things the same way.

things the same way. things the same way. >> Even without Leslie's body in this case, >> Even without Leslie's body in this case, >> Even without Leslie's body in this case, um um um the amount of evidence pointing the amount of evidence pointing the amount of evidence pointing to let uh Lyle Herring's guilt to let uh Lyle Herring's guilt to let uh Lyle Herring's guilt was overwhelming. was overwhelming. was overwhelming. >> And after a 3-week-long trial, the jury >> And after a 3-week-long trial, the jury >> And after a 3-week-long trial, the jury quickly arrived at a verdict. Lyle quickly arrived at a verdict. Lyle quickly arrived at a verdict. Lyle Herring, guilty of second-degree murder, Herring, guilty of second-degree murder, Herring, guilty of second-degree murder, and is sentenced to 15 years to life in and is sentenced to 15 years to life in and is sentenced to 15 years to life in prison. prison. prison. >> As far as the evidence being >> As far as the evidence being >> As far as the evidence being overwhelming, um that that's actually overwhelming, um that that's actually overwhelming, um that that's actually the comment of the uh trial judge who the comment of the uh trial judge who the comment of the uh trial judge who presided over the trial after conviction presided over the trial after conviction presided over the trial after conviction at sentencing. at sentencing. at sentencing. >> Lyle went through plenty of effort to >> Lyle went through plenty of effort to >> Lyle went through plenty of effort to cover up his guilt. And according to cover up his guilt. And according to cover up his guilt. And according to Detective Gable, he almost succeeded. Detective Gable, he almost succeeded. Detective Gable, he almost succeeded. In fact, if he had simply stayed home In fact, if he had simply stayed home In fact, if he had simply stayed home and read a book, Gable says, there's a and read a book, Gable says, there's a and read a book, Gable says, there's a chance this murder may never have been chance this murder may never have been chance this murder may never have been solved. solved. solved. >> He would have been much better off if he >> He would have been much better off if he >> He would have been much better off if he did nothing. Then we would have nothing did nothing. Then we would have nothing did nothing. Then we would have nothing to go on. It was his cover-ups that to go on. It was his cover-ups that to go on. It was his cover-ups that really solidified the case. really solidified the case. really solidified the case. >> As for Leslie, she may never be found. >> As for Leslie, she may never be found. >> As for Leslie, she may never be found. But the police and her bereaved family But the police and her bereaved family But the police and her bereaved family still have hope that Lyle might do the still have hope that Lyle might do the still have hope that Lyle might do the right thing for once.

right thing for once. right thing for once. >> Finding her remains will be uh very >> Finding her remains will be uh very >> Finding her remains will be uh very important. So, and the only person that important. So, and the only person that important. So, and the only person that can do that is Lyle. Hopefully, one day can do that is Lyle. Hopefully, one day can do that is Lyle. Hopefully, one day he'll he'll he'll he'll reach out to us and and uh want to he'll reach out to us and and uh want to he'll reach out to us and and uh want to tell us what you know, where she is. tell us what you know, where she is. tell us what you know, where she is. >> We still don't believe it. We still >> We still don't believe it. We still >> We still don't believe it. We still cannot believe that this has happened. cannot believe that this has happened. cannot believe that this has happened. The end of the tragedy of this whole The end of the tragedy of this whole The end of the tragedy of this whole thing, we never found her remains. You thing, we never found her remains. You thing, we never found her remains. You know, her her life impacted us know, her her life impacted us know, her her life impacted us and uh she'll always be in our hearts and uh she'll always be in our hearts and uh she'll always be in our hearts and souls and minds forever, forever and souls and minds forever, forever and souls and minds forever, forever ever and ever and ever and ever.