How Cops Hunted Down a Coed’s Killer with DNA and a DWI

A word of warning, this podcast explores graphic and disturbing stories and includes some strong language. It therefore may not be suitable for our young listeners or other folks who may find it [music] disturbing. Hello and welcome to True Crime News, the podcast covering high-profile and under the radar cases from across the country every week. I'm your host, Anna Garcia. And our case this week, a 19-year-old college sophomore hoping to become a pediatrician is brutally beaten and assaulted in her off-campus apartment. Police look at her roommate. They look at the men in her life. But for nearly a decade, this case was cold until a DWI traffic stop and a DNA swab would lead police to a suspected killer, a man not known to the victim. 14 years later, there is justice. And the parents of this young woman have shown a level of grace that this killer never showed their daughter. We are recording this on Friday, October 30th of 2026. Our guest today is Don Tbeck, a retired LAPD homicide detective, an active private investigator, a friend of the show, and a real fan favorite. You all call him, you dub him, Grumpy Grandpa. Welcome back, Don. How are you?

>> I'm doing great, Anna. Thanks for having me back. Grumpy or not, here I am. Okay, so >> for those of you who are watching on YouTube, they're going to say this man has two black eyes. >> Two. >> And you do. >> I do. >> But nothing to worry about. It's just a little surgery. And look at you. Cuz it's very Hollywood. And my god, you look like you're 20 years old. >> There you go. What have you been drinking today? Because whatever it is, it's changing your vision on me. Keep >> doing it. give you anything. [laughter] >> My electrolytes having my Pedialyte, my electrolytes. >> Okay. >> Not very saucy at all. Um >> well, I I'm I'm really glad you're here for this, Don, because uh this case has troubled us here at True Crime News for a very long time. We covered it on Crime Watch Daily, the TV show. We covered it on True Crime News, the TV show. We've covered it on the podcast. And that's because it's, you know, a case that's been going on for so long and justice has been delayed. It has been served, but it's always very well, it's never enough and it's never good enough. But the grace that these parents showed when they said to the judge at sentencing that they forgave this man, I do not have that capacity. I don't. And I am in awe of them. And the judge even said that the level of grace that they showed was amazing and taught him something.

Yeah, I I' I've never I have a few times. I but not to the to the degree that these folks did on what this guy did to her daughter and snatching because of her age, you know, snatching whatever she had in her future, which was pretty bright. And to take that away and it's directly dealt to the parents. Yeah. I I'm very impressed that they were very civil. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Much more forgiving than I would ever be. As you like. >> Absolutely. >> It says a lot about how Faith Hedgeped was raised and what kind of family Faith had. So, um it's it's just incredible. 19-year-old Faith Hedgepath was brutally murdered and sexually assaulted in her off-campus apartment. And despite police interviewing just about everyone in her life, the case grew cold. I know a lot of police departments don't like to use that term, but for a long time it was stalled. Even if they were actively looking, it was stalled and it felt cold. And the amazing thing is that the DNA that was collected from Faith and at the crime scene, you know, was properly logged and it was registered and it was stored. And then all of a sudden in a traffic stop a decade later, the person who gets stopped has DNA that police say

matches this crime scene. And all of a sudden, it goes from cold to hot in an instant. gone. >> But it does though. That's what happens especially with DNA nowadays which wasn't that available and primary primary as it is now. Now keep in mind and and as I read through the case uh the synopsis of the case something cued these guys. They didn't just happen to stop a deuce and go h let's just take his DNA. Doesn't happen. Um, most felonious cases, you'll take their DNA to put it in the bank, but not a drunk driver. And the way that they said they they captured his DNA. Somebody somehow somewhere said something that enlightened them to this suspect. That wasn't just a chance stop. At least that I >> And I I agree with you. I think, you know, there also had to be an opportunity. There had to be the moment where police could move in. Um, but it was several years later that police submitted the DNA once again, you know, as cold cases do, double-checking everything. Uh, genetic genealogy all of a sudden has become a science that was not available when Faith was murdered.

And the report is that they managed to find some distant relatives. They knew they were getting close. Now, they need to needed to confirm that that they had someone in their sights. And then he allegedly commits some kind of a traffic offense driving allegedly while intoxicated. And the opportunity presents itself. >> Yeah. And again, um, when we first started using DNA and if you sus suspected somebody, you would follow them around and they would go into a McDonald's or they'd go into a bar and you'd follow them and they would drink from a glass and you would, you know, grab the glass because you're able to do that in plain sight or drinking from a cup or whatever. They that they wanted to find his DNA. They needed to compare that. And I I think they tailed him around if they're good enough to do that. My god, they had every state agency, including the FBI in on this case. So, a surveillance on him would be very, very easy. And they probably saw him coming out of bar one night, lit him up, meaning they stopped him. He is under the influence. And now we've got our our PC, our probable cause, to go deeper with this guy. But I I have to suspect, Anna, that they probably had a good sense that he was responsible for her death. They wouldn't have zeroed in on him like that.

>> Right. Right. Right. And and that's a lot of what changed in this case was that technology and science advanced to make it possible for what was collected to be analyzed and then used and break open a door that was needed in the collection of evidence. What I think is very frustrating additionally in this case is that it's almost 5 years after this man is arrested and charged that we finally get to trial. So I feel in Faith's case it has been a very painful long and slow process to justice. >> Yeah, nicely said. It's exactly what it is. And and I don't know why that there was a lapse in in time like that. They had everything that they needed and and I got to go back to the evidence that they obtained at the scene and I think they did an admirable job at the scene. Both uh law enforcement did a great job as long as and also the uh the civilians that recovered the evidence. the wine bottle that they got good old fingerprints from the old days fingerprints on that wine bottle that matched him up. Now, this is after, granted, but if they threw out the stop, right? If they threw out his DNA, they still have the wine bottle. And why was his prince on that wine bottle inside that house on the bed that she was dead at? So, like I said, I I think they had him locked up the the 5-year period. Not real sure. Um, that might have to do something with the DA and getting their

case, you know, absolutely where they want it to be. But I, as I read, it seems like law enforcement was ready to go. That they really did a very methodical job in getting everything they needed to present to the DA and go to trial with this. >> Well, it was a three-w weekek trial, and after three weeks, Miguel Siguro Olivetis has been convicted of murdering and sexually assaulting Faith. He was 19 at the time of the brutal murder. He is now going to be spending the rest of his life behind bars without any possibility of ever ever leaving that prison. Um, again, it's so interesting that this convict this now convicted killer was never initially on the radar for investigators because most people are killed by people they know. And so that's why there was such intense scrutiny of everyone that Faith knew.

And on that last night of her life that she was out with her roommate and had either messaged or encountered other people that either she knew or the roommate knew, every one of those men was, you know, everyone had to submit DNA and everyone gladly did and everyone was interrogated. But it didn't lead anywhere because as it turns out, the jury said, it was pretty much a stranger. >> Yeah. And that happens, you know, and and I don't remember what the statistic was when I was running with my murders, but a random killing would never be solved. If I just walked up to anyone in the street, stabbed him, shot him, whatever, her and and left, they would never find me as the killer ever because it's because murders are so related to other things and you can find a nexus on most things after even after it's investigated and you find out what who killed him or who killed her, you can find a nexus that leads to her. as in this case, they alluded to him being at a cookout or or doing something to ham and seized her bringing in her drunk friend, which subbared this was they they suspected the girlfriend. This is the And again, you have to Okay. Did but some of the things that they were

thinking were really outlandish, >> but you mean the roommate? the room had nothing to do because there was this bizarre note that was left at the scene to this day that I still don't comprehend it. But yes, everyone was interrogated. Everyone was suspected, including the roommate because she in many ways was the last person to see her alive. And she admitted that when she left the apartment early that morning before the sun came up, she left it unlocked. >> Yeah, >> the roommate did. And you know, uh, we're going to get into all these details. It the theory is, and I don't even know. I mean, it's just the theory that he was at a cookout. He was nearby, he saw the two girls come home that night, maybe made some kind of an approach, the the approach was rejected, and this was retribution. I don't know if that's true. We have no idea. There's there's that's just a potential possible motive. It's possible. It's possible.

everything. Well, you look at the note. >> Yeah. Well, the note, we're going to get into the note. When our producer first told me that she recently added organ meat to her diet, well, I laughed just a little bit. Um, but the more she told me about it, the more I understood. The truth is that our ancestors ate organs for a reason. They are incredibly nutrientdense. She said that discovering Primal Queen was a total gamecher. Primal Queen has taken ancient superfood nutrition and made it completely effortless by putting pasture-raised grass-fed beef organs into two simple daily capsules. Okay, it may sound a little weird. I kind of said the same thing, but our producer promised that you don't taste anything. In fact, she said that the bag actually smells like fresh peppermint. Organ meat like liver gives you roughly 60% more iron than steak. Plus natural vitamin B12, vitamin A, zinc, copper, all for real energy, focus and immune support.

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And that's what kept him holding on. And then her mom Connie remembers Faith as just this lively, kind, beautiful woman. She was among the first in her family to attend college. She was a distinguished student. She had been awarded two different scholarships which made her tuition completely covered because she was just that great of a student. And she was attending the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. She dreamed of becoming a pediatrician. a dream which of course she never got a chance to fulfill. So shortly after starting her sophomore year, she was killed in her off-campus apartment in the early hours of September 7th of 2012. The school had just started. School had just started. All right. What Durham police have done, and this is what they did at the time, they kind of reconstructed the last few hours of her life, where she was, who she was with, who she ran into, who she talked to, thinking that that would lead us, as you said, that you know that murder is a complicated thing, but there's generally a connection. And sadly, in this one, there wasn't. But there was a lot of work looking for those connections. She attended classes on Thursday, Don. That would have been September 6th. Later that evening, she went to the library at around 7:30 p.m.

with her roommate, Karina Rosario. Karina is very important in the timeline here. So, they do their studying and then they go back to their apartment around midnight after they've gotten, you know, all their work done. And of course, they're young and they want to go out. They've worked hard all night and they've decided to go to a local nightclub called The Thrill. So, they arrive there at 1:00 a.m. in the morning. My goodness, to have the stamina of young people, right? [laughter] To have the stamina of young people. And so they arrive at the club, there's some friends there, and then um they run into someone who is Karina's kind of was Karina's on again, off-again boyfriend, and there was a restraining order against him. So, this was a very difficult, intense situation that they kind of needed to get out of. Um it was not healthy for them to be there. So, of course, as you can understand, police are like wondering, "Okay, did something happen at the bar? Is that what happened here?" They finally leave at 2:06 a.m., and they're caught on security cameras to confirm that Faith drives both of them home in her white Nissan Ultima.

This is also important. So, Karina has had a lot to drink and is not feeling well either. So, it is our Faith who is taking care of her, getting her to bed and getting her up upstairs. And they're the two of them are texting, you know, either I guess the best easiest way to describe this is some male friends. And the reason I'm being a little bit vague here is because there are just so many people who were looked at and that were cleared. Um, it is a rabbit hole we don't need to go go through because all of these people were cleared. So, um, there's a text at 3:43 a.m., and that's the last communication from Faith's phone, which I think is very important. The next thing that Karina remembers, she wakes up, she's puking in a trash can that Faith had left for her.

She feels horrible. She contacts another friend, and she leaves the apartment at 4:27 a.m. She tells Faith she's leaving, and she leaves the door. unlocked. >> Yeah. But you know that in itself, I mean, in retrospect, well, hey, I should have locked it. But, you know, they they probably have done that, Anna, a million times. >> I know >> the girls in Idaho that were killed by that [ __ ] They left their place unlocked all the time. >> I know, right? >> It's just what kids do, but most people do. You'll leave it at low because you run down the street. I was running the store. I'll be right back. So, you know, they she probably didn't make a habit of that and she did it that night and unfortunately this occurred, right? >> I mean, and he could have easily broken in. >> Sure. >> So, you know, just locking a door is not going to keep an intruder out. It's just I'm sure she feels just so horrible about it. I'm sure she feels so very horrible about that. Okay, so roommate Karina is trying to reach Faith cuz she needs, you know, her to be picked up.

She's trying to call and there's no answer. Karina finally gets back to the apartment and it's awful. It's awful. It is a crime scene. She's on the bed half on half off, covered in a blanket and a comforter and she is cold to the touch. Here's the 911 call. >> Darl 911. Where is your emergency? >> I um I just walked into my apartment and my friend just like unconscious. >> Okay. What's your address, ma'am? >> He's unconscious. I just walked in the apartment and there looks like there's blood every so I don't think so. >> Okay, listen to me. >> There's blood everywhere. >> There's what? >> There's blood everywhere. >> Okay, listen to me. When you touched her, how does she feel? >> Does she feel warm? No, she feels cold.

>> She feels cold. Okay. >> Okay. All right. Don't touch anything else. Okay. Don't touch anything else. >> I do appreciate that the 911 operator says to Karina, "Don't touch anything else." >> Yeah. >> Because sometimes I hear the 911 operator saying, "Oh, can you know move them? Can they breathe?" Then I'm not saying not to do that, but in this case, it was the absolute right thing to do. Do not touch another thing because this is a murder scene. >> Do not touch. Okay. So, um, Karina describes how she finds Faith. Like I said, half on the bed, half off the bed, covered in a comforter, a blanket. Her black t-shirt was pulled up over her head, and she was naked from the waist down. She had been beaten. She had been sexually assaulted. There was blood visible on the wall above Faith's pillow. And there were some concerning items on the bed. And I'm sorry to be graphic here, but this is important.

There was a bloody tampon and a panty liner that was stuck to the bed. Her boxer shorts, that blue wine bottle that you talked about, Don, her cell phone was there. Um, then this Bikardi rum bottle and then a white bag on the bed. Remember I said there was this this note that no one can understand what it says. Handwritten note on a white bag and it said, quote, "I'm not stupid, [ __ ] Jealous?" And because of that, and I don't even know what that means. But as you said, Don, originally they thought, "Oh, wait a second. Could the roommate, the female roommate, have had something to do with this, which he didn't, and we still don't know what this note means." >> But the note, as I recall in the in the brief that I read, the handwriting matched to Miguel.

>> Well, the defense here's what the defense said. And they didn't say an awful lot at trial because they never really presented a case. Yeah. >> But they claimed one, Miguel was just learning English, so he couldn't possibly have written it. >> But that could explain why the way it's written is not necessarily in perfect English, >> right? >> So they deny that he wrote it and we still don't know what it means. It certainly is derogatory. And who else would have left it other than the killer, >> correct? >> So, you know, obviously her body was terribly abused and assaulted. The scene is processed. They gather the fingerprints that you've mentioned, DNA. They find DNA, but they don't know who this DNA belongs to. And the the bottles of wine and rum will become very important. Forensic pathologist Dr.

Laura Scott performed the autopsy and she said that there were multiple lacerations to the head because of uh a blunt object. Um the cause of death, blunt force trauma, murder weapon, the Bikardi rum bottle. That is what the killer used. And as we said, you know, for years this this case was just stalled. There was all this information. There was forensics that they had, but it wasn't moving anywhere. In 2021, everything changes. And that's when they um placed the sample of that unknown DNA into a genealogy search. And as we said at the top of the podcast, all of a sudden, that's leading to potential family members and zeroing in on who it could possibly be. There's a traffic stop of this person that they suspect. They grab the DNA and they say that it is a match. So, this opens it all up. Finally, there is an arrest. 28-year-old Miguel Siguro Oliveres is arrested and charged with the murder of Faith.

He's arrested on September 16th of 2021, 9 years and 9 days after Faith was murdered. And it's incredible. But then more we're waiting another five years. Okay. Now, what's interesting here is at the time of Faith's murder, he was 19 years old. He had come to the United States two years before with his mother from Guatemala. And at the time of his arrest, he was working as a painter and a drywall finisher. Um, there was so much evidence in this, Don. 39,000 pages of evidence, documents, interviews, discovery. It's unbelievable how much there was. What do you think of the fact that um you know the trial starts and statements you pretty much get the road map of where each side is going to go with the case and the defense you know was going to prove that it wasn't him that uh if there was a sexual act that it was consensual um if they called it an encounter.

>> Yeah. >> But they were going to prove that it wasn't him. But Don, after the prosecution rests and presents its case, the defense calls no one. They don't call a witness. They don't do anything. They just That's it. They just shut up and sit down. God love him. What are they going to say? Really? I mean, they're going to say, "No, he didn't write the note. He doesn't speak English." Okay. Uh, we'll throw that out. How about the entirety of the DNA samples that fit him do that are him? They're him. the seaman was sent. We forgot to mention that, you know, that they they swabbed where the seaman was at and you can take a guess where that was from. Uh, that was him. I mean, what are they going to say? This was, like I said, I think law enforcement did an admirable job in their collection of evidence, both the civilian side and and the uh law enforcement side of it. And yeah, I would have thought they would have mounted a defense saying, "You got the wrong guy. It was a rusted judgment, which is the, you know, the cool thing to say now when you when you you have a suspect right off the get-go. Well, you you eliminated everybody else. Well, there's no there was nobody else. You know once >> Well, that's what they said. They said that in opening statements. They said, you know, there are lots of other people that this could have been and that they looked at. So, how are you so sure that it's him? But the reason it became an issue is because one of the TV stations

um who there covering this trial then interviewed some of the jurors and the jurors said they were stunned. They didn't know what to make of the fact that the defense didn't present anything. In fact, one of the jurors said not even his mother as a character witness. like nobody like what you are pretty much you know you pull that and we've seen that done in some cases. You do that when the prosecution you feel very strongly has failed to prove their argument. >> Good point. That's right. >> But in this case that is so rich with DNA and forensic evidence. I don't understand this move. And then and then you know the accused is actually surprised that he's convicted. Are you kidding me? Were you sitting in the same courtroom? [laughter] [gasps] >> Did he have a public defender? Do we know?

>> I don't know. I would presume so but I don't know. >> Okay. That could be a difference too between appointed um >> Oh, some public defenders are fantastic. I'm not willing to go with that one, you know. Um unless unless it was a calculated move to open up an appeal. >> Well, absolutely that. But then he's also waiting for his closing statements, too. He'll make his argument there. And remember, you only need one juror, just one. And there was there was a juror who was actually who shared um you know because there was some conflicting evidence and there was some issue with the um collection and uh analysis of some DNA. Let's get let's get into that. That actually, you know, made it a little gray there and and made it gave the defense um a little opening towards the possibility of reasonable doubt. So, this trial, which started on Wednesday, October 7th of 2026, and just lasted 3 weeks, as I said, there's this one point here where there was an opening for some possible reasonable doubt. Chapel Hill Police forensic technician Tama Price testified about the evidence that was collected, the rum bottle, the blood, the white bag, all of it. Okay, very important. That is not looking good for Miguel. But Price also testified, you know, that she tested the stains at the scene that were positive for blood. And

then she said that there were swabs that should have been sent to the lab for further testing, but were not. She admits that she wasn't sure why the step was missed. But of course, this was very helpful to the defense. And as I said, there was a juror who was asking, "Well, hold on a second. What exactly happened with that evidence?" Any thoughts there? >> You know what? Those are 12 members of juries of his peers. They all can't be bright. And I can only tell you if you go back to the Simpson trial and juries and listening is that you had an individual, an attorney who was an expert in blood who convinced all 12 of those jurors that even though it's 400,000 to one that they have the right killer. He proved and made it made it to the jury that hey, if that one guy is still out there, that's that's doubt.

And most of those jurors bought into that. Well, yeah, it's not 480,000 to zero. there is one, you know, maybe we don't have the right person. Now, in 2026, they're bringing essentially the same argument up. No, I'm sorry. It's him, only him, and only him. There's >> And that's what they look for. That's, you know, they probably could have gone out there and jammed up Karina or jammed up somebody else if they rushed to judgment, but they didn't. They sat back. They collected what they needed to collect. They didn't call it a cold case. They said they were, you know, it was still an active case and they waited and they got their moment. What I would love to know is what was the the the component that set their eyes on Miguel. It wasn't the deuce. They wouldn't have tested if they got if you or I got arrested for drunk driving, they would not have tested us for DNA. >> Of course. >> Expensive. So, they wouldn't have done that. So, something got their attention.

An informant. something eluded them and and lit up Miguel to them and they went >> well I think it was the genetic genealogy that um led them in the general direction and then >> then they had to confirm who it was. Now, um, also there was physical evidence different from the DNA evidence, which was very important. As you said, very old school, that left palm print that was found on the blue wine bottle that matched Miguel. That, as you said, even if they kicked out the DNA evidence, they still would have that. Um, and then the fact that the DNA testimony said that it was the probability that this was Miguel's DNA was 170 septillion times >> likely. I can't even fathom that. >> That's more than a cabillion, by the way. >> It is more than a cabillion. Yes, it is. >> Yeah. Um, then of course here was another possibility for the defense, but since they chose not to mount a defense, and I'm not suggesting, I'm just simply pointing out what happened here and how we got to this place. It was interesting that the pathologist testified that she did not notice physical injuries um in Faith's sexual areas.

Um, but the doctor testified that you can still be sexually assaulted without significant signs of tear or trauma. >> Y, >> but once again, that was something that the defense pointed to toward their argument. Maybe this was an encounter that was consensual. >> Yep. >> Keep in mind again on that, they didn't recover semen from her vagina. Yes. >> So there there's a big argument and again that it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter anymore. You know where where he assaulted her. Um this guy they they they made a great case and the defense most likely knew it. And you know most of these guys on a lot of these things and you've been there a lot more trial than I have is they'll make their case and the case is for appeal. Right. This is why if there's no defense, we don't feel that we need it because there's so much that we're going to bring up on appeal and we'll win there. And there it's they're delusional, but they that is what the the case is made for is like for the next step. We're going to appeal this case, >> right? I it's very possible that they felt there is no way that we can win this here. Let's just get this over with and let's get ready. Let's get to the appeal faster. Yep.

>> Um I I don't know. you know, when you're dealing with someone's life. I I don't know, but that's possibly the decision that was made. Now, one of the things that had always been missing from this case is one of the things that's been missing from this case has been, is it possible that the accused killer and the victim knew each other? And that's never really been clear. There's the theory that we floated early on that the prosecution said he could have been nearby when the two young women came home from the bar and maybe approached them because he was there for a cookout. But again, it's just conjecture. There doesn't seem to be um a lot of facts behind that. And it's of course a possibility. But um someone who testified also said um that this investigator went back and kind of wanted to know back at the time of the murder where were these two individuals.

And he drew a map of their worlds, if you will. And pretty much it showed that where the accused and the victim lived, they were about 2 miles apart from each other work-wise and homewise. And so they're wondering that that's a pretty small area and he may have noticed Faith. No one may remember him, but that that's a possibility. I don't know. It it certainly feels like a crime of opportunity. >> Well, how many people were in that two-mile area? >> Well, I mean, it especially during school. I mean, it's filled with kids. Yeah. >> It's a lot of people. >> And I don't think Miguel was sitting in her biological science class with her. Uh, >> no. You know, >> absolutely not. No, he was not. No, he was not. >> No, it it was a crime of opportunity, as you said, tragic as it is. and they got the right man in custody and that turd should rot in jail for the rest of his life which you will then he'll never win it on appeal they'll never get through like I said they could throw off the fingerprints okay throw out the statement how are you going to get rid of the DNA right you can't you can't get rid of the fingerprint you can't get rid of any of this it was all recovered legally these guys did an admirable job like I said recovering their stuff they didn't cross over any bounds of of anything that had to do with uh search and seizure And it it was they brought

closure and this guy can go appeal for the rest of his life. The only I'll worry about is long after I'm gone and you are having black eyes for me from having surgery when you're 90 years old. Are they going to start saying, "Well, he was a youthful offender. God, he's been in jail 60 years." like we talked about in one of my cases, um, person that I thought would never get out in his life and Menendez that they would even entertain the fact that they, well, they were young and stupid and why, you know, maybe we should let him out. This guy should rock for the rest of his freaking life in a jail cell. I'm sorry. He took a life that was and even if she wasn't successful, he took a human being's life and took everything else away from the parents, the cousins, the aunts, the uncles, and her friends. F him. I'm sorry, but I I agree with this guy. >> So, we get to the closing arguments here. Um, the defense at least participated in that. And again, you know, everything we've said that they claimed he English was terrible. He couldn't have written that note. Um, you know, what about all the other people?

What about all the other people they saw that night? What's interesting is that the final message that is sent to the jury about because juries you don't need to prove motive but a motive is helpful and they once again said the um assistant DA said look here's what likely happened. He approached them. Faith rebuffed him because she was busy trying to get her roommate into the apartment. He got pissed. Uh they claim he broke the gas cap off of Faith's car to kind of show that anger and then finished with this rage of his. And that is what they left for the jury to deliberate. It took them 6 hours to get to their conclusion. And on Friday, October 23rd, Miguel Salguro Oliveres, who is now 33 years old, was found guilty on four charges: first-degree murder, first-degree burglary, first-degree rape, and firstdegree sexual offense. I was watching him as the verdict was being read. And here's what I find fascinating, also disgusting.

So, as they read, they start with the murder charges. They read the murder charge. Guilty. Guilty. The guy's not even blinking. Miguel doesn't blink. He doesn't move. Ah. But when they find him guilty of sexual assault, he just shakes his head in disagreement as if the rest of it, no reaction. This absolutely not. And I'm like, Jesus, sicko, what the heck is that about? Can I give you an analogy? >> Sure. >> One of my murders, and it's so funny because I was just talking about, and it kind of parallels her murder, but my guy went and beat this woman that you beyond recognition with an old barbell bar, a cement bar that would hold the barbells. Um, when we found him in Las [clears throat] Vegas and I interviewed him, he was sudden about the murder. I I'm so sorry. I'm going to die for this. There's a bunch of things that go into that, but the bottom line was he had sex with her after death. It was proven after death. And I told him, I said, "Donald, why would you have had sex with her when she died, after she was dead?" And he Anna blew up. I did not do that. That's sick. I was [ __ ] her when she was alive. Excuse my French. But he admitted everything else. Beating her, robbing her, uh, setting her up for this, and

then going off on her when she denied him sex. And then the only thing that he absolutely I mean, screaming at me is that he did not have sex with her after she was dead. She was alive. He she was gurgling, as she said, and he wasn't. He's he had sex with her after death. And they could prove that. And it was proven. So this guy again, he starts shaking his head on the sexual assault, you know, that yeah, I'm a murderer, but I didn't but I didn't do that. That you know, and maybe there >> it's beyond me. It's really beyond me. >> You know, he doesn't want to be saw as a pervert. He's a killer. >> Well, I don't know. I I just again I found that so telling to watch him. >> Yep. >> And here's the other thing. So, you know, obviously the cameras are all on him. Then after all the verdicts are in, right? So guilty on everything. Then he says to his attorney, cuz you know they're doing a little lip reading here.

Miguel says that it's not fair. >> It's not fair. And I'm like, let me get this straight. You think you've waited 5 years to get to trial, right? You've delayed it this long. You finally get your opportunity. Your attorneys do not mount a defense at all. The jury convicts you. Your DNA, your fingerprints are everywhere, but it's not fair. >> It's not fair. >> Not fair. >> Give me a break. >> He'll be a victim for the rest of his life now. This isn't fair. >> Oh, just really, it's just unbelievable. So immediately after the verdict, the judge says, "I'm going to do sentencing." And you know, I pretty much I think this is what we expected, you know, life in prison without the possibility of parole. But he gives Faith's parents an opportunity to speak and they're both very eloquent and very kind. And each of them says that they forgive this man, which again is beyond anything I would be capable of, but it says everything about who they are and their capacity, their incredible capacity. So, um, he's going to spend the rest of his life in prison, but the defense has already

filed for an appeal. I think they had the car waiting and they like ran over, had the paperwork. In fact, instead of mounting a defense, this is my opinion, they're sitting there writing their appeal because they're like, "Let's use the energy for that." And this happens. His conviction comes and his sentencing comes 14 years, 1 month, and 16 days. After Faith was murdered, >> justice has prevailed, however swift, Senator Con. >> That's right. >> It is time for our comments section. These are the crime cases that you all are talking about on social media. Well, if you weren't with us last week, you may not know that producer Will Updike has left us after 5 years. But but the universe has brought us a wonderful new producer. one, Miss Polly Katowski, >> who I've had the pleasure of working with for years at Crime Watch Daily, at True Crime News, the TV show.

>> So, welcome, Pauly. >> Thank you. I'm happy to be here. I'm excited. I know. I was at the office the other day and somebody asked and I said, "Actually, I've been working on and off with Anna for about 10 years now." >> Yes, I know. It's amazing. It just all lined up. We wish Will the best, but we're just so happy to have you because you know so many of these cases. You know so many of the survivors and the families because you've been working these cases for more than 10 years for all of us here at Warner Brothers which is now Sky Dance. So um it's a pleasure. We welcome you. I want all of you on YouTube where we have our vibrant community. Please everyone welcome Polly. >> Yay. >> Very excited. So, my first comment, cuz I like mostly happy endings for the comment section, was, "Do you have a goat ringtone?" No, no, no, no. They're in my trunk. So, according to KMBC out of Kansas City, Missouri, the Kansas City Police Department, pulled over a suspect that they thought had stolen a car, and they're talking to him and keep hearing these goat noises. And finally the officer just asked, "Do you have a goat ringtone?" And he said, "No, no, no, I don't. There are two goats in my trunk."

>> Goats in the trunk. >> Goats in the trunk. [laughter] >> And apparently they were very noisy goats. >> Yes. Well, I don't think they were happy to be in the trunk. >> No, probably not. But they also said that they were very thin, very sickly. Um, so in essence, the Kansas City Police Department got their car thief and then rescued two goats that were then sent to a goat sanctuary where the people bottlefed them and fell in love with them. Their names are Denver and Aspen now and they're doing very well at the KC Pet project. >> How bizarre. So, did they just did they steal the car with the goats or they stole the goats or the goats were do we know? >> They said the They don't specify, but when he was talking to officers, according to the article, he said the goats were his, >> which is interesting you said that because we did have a comment from Emigen 2092 that said, "Hope he's not planning to eat them."

>> Oh. >> Which I I've never eaten goat. I know some people do, but based on what we know of the state of these goats, I kind of doubt that was his plan. Um, >> need to throw in, you know, when you eat burri, that's goat. If you have a burri taco, >> what is bura? I've never heard of that. >> Burria, it's a it's a shredded meat that you get with a little bit of sauce on it and most um southern Mexican restaurants. >> Oh. >> Will always offer burri that it used to be a big deal now with um Py Loco had their burrito with their sauce. >> I love Poo Loco. I didn't know that they served. No, their buria is meat, but true buria in a Mexican restaurant is goat. Just so you guys know that. >> I did not. >> Yeah. How do you feel now after eating all your buria? >> I'm usually al pastor, so I stick with the peg, but we'll see. >> Okay. Just wanted to throw that into you. I'm here to help.

>> I'm just hoping cop. Okay. I I've got things to tell you. >> Yeah. Clearly much more than Well, is that what you learned being a cop in LA? >> What about Berea? >> Yes. No, I just learned that about a year ago at a Mexican restaurant. [laughter] I said, "This has kind of a gy taste to it." He goes, "Oh, it's goat." I mean, it's what? Goat. Buria is goat. Nice to know. And I'm don't eat goat. >> You know goat cheese, right? Is that made with goat milk? >> Thank you. >> Goat cheese. >> Yes, it is. >> Yeah, it is. >> Oh, it's horrible. >> It is. No. >> Oh, >> I don't like goat cheese. >> I like feta. I like goat cheese. like all that stuff. >> But you didn't know about Berea. I'm a little surprised. >> No, I didn't. Don, what are you trying to shame me here? >> Oh, wow. Oh, jumped all over me that time. Jeez. Get in line, will you? [laughter] >> All right, let me write down that Anna now yelled at me. >> Yes, that's right. >> I got told. >> No, no, no. I I find that fascinating. I find that fascinating.

>> I just So, are these goats going to live in the sanctuary for the rest of their lives? >> Yes. The people that ran it fell absolutely in love with them and officially adopted them. They had a 10day mandatory hold while they were getting nursed back to health. >> And they fell in love with Denver and Aspen and kept them. >> That's so cute. >> Goats are very I love the way goats jump, >> you know, especially those little ones, the babies. They just >> How do they jump? >> They jump straight up and down like they're on pogo sticks. >> They're so cute, right? >> They are. And we actually had a picture up with our comment section and Anime May 6400 said, "Beautiful photo." Yes, beautiful. Thank you. Because if the police saved the goats and now they're happy and flourishing, then making lots of noise somewhere other than a truck. >> Oh my goodness. That's just so funny to to ask. Is the ringtone for your phone a goat? It's just an It's just an odd.

>> We don't miss a thing as law enforcement cops. Okay. >> Not a ringtone I've ever heard. I've heard the duck a lot. Never. >> Yeah, that's right. The duck. >> Yeah. Yep. But not a goat. >> Excellent. Very good. Very good. >> Ladies, if you have a goat tone now, if I call your phone and I hear a goat, I'm really going to be disappointed in you. Actually, I'd be pretty excited for you, but don't don't put the goat sound. See, look at now. I have a goat sound on there. So, there was one other comment that I guess I'll make a funny noise to go with it because it's just the noise. Maybe you've been lied to said underneath the photo. Oh, okay. I like that. >> Cute. Although that >> Oh, good time to leave. >> Yeah, it it is. I guess it's [laughter] time to say goodbye now. Don has spoken. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Grumpy old man or grumpy grandpa. >> Grumpy grandpa they call you. Hey, and I even I fbombed once. I was really had a good filter. I said the guy really effed up, so I I'm doing better.

>> Oh, we don't mind. People love you for being spicy. >> Oh, spicy with the burri. That's why. >> Thanks, Paulie. >> Nice meeting you, Paulie. >> Don. >> Ma'am, >> where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? >> I I have a website at don dun n tayback t-.net net and that's my PI website and if anyone wants to get a hold of me all my contact numbers are in there and then if you're in LA we've been doing a thing called Crime Scene Live um with Wiggle Room Entertainment I think it is and we're at the Illusion Theater the first Friday of every month and it's kind of been cool because I talk about some of my murders back in my era and then at the end of this I give a murder scenario that we'll let the crowd try to solve. called the Murder That I Did. So, it's very immersive, very laid-back. Um, this Illusion Lounge Theater is a really cool place in Santa Monica. And it's uh got a bar and there's food in there. And the uh the actual auditorium or the where you go and you sit and watch me is very very comfortable. So, it's been a ball and something that I've never done in my life and I'm learning how to do it. But it's just so neat with with crime being as it is and how much everybody likes it. Um it's been really fun getting everybody involved and we get some really rockous things going on between people thinking, "Yeah, we had probable

cause and we didn't have probable cause and oh, we should have just booked that guy." So it it really gives them a taste of what really working murders is like. So that's the first Friday of every month. So we're having one on November the 6th. And if you're in Los Angeles or Santa Monica area, come down, see it, tell me what you think of it. And uh yeah, so that's how they can find me. >> I love it. So fun. >> I want you Life of Dawn. >> Yeah. I want you when you come back into LA, obviously. I still want to take you to lunch still. Like, okay, it disappeared. So, but I want you to come see this and see what you think. >> Yes, we do. We are still We have to have lunch. I know. We're really behind on that one. We have tried. We have communicated >> when you come. Should it? This isn't on the air thing, right? >> Yes, it is. We're on We're recording now Don. >> Okay. Well, I'm not >> We haven't said goodbye yet. So, let me move us along here. So, um All right. And you can find me at Anag News with one N. You can find everything that we do at my true crime news. That's our one handle. Um you can get this podcast, more than 500 podcasts that I've recorded. Wherever you get your podcast, subscribe to our YouTube channel where we have a vibrant vibrant community or receive our newsletter at true crimenews.com. So until next week, this is True Crime News, the podcast. I'm your host, Anna Garcia. Crime never stops and neither do we.