The boring geek who killed for sport

Baton Rouge, Louisiana, a southern city Baton Rouge, Louisiana, a southern city with a dark and gothic history, is once with a dark and gothic history, is once with a dark and gothic history, is once again gripped by fear. again gripped by fear. again gripped by fear. >> Baton Rouge was, particularly in the >> Baton Rouge was, particularly in the >> Baton Rouge was, particularly in the female population, kind of in mass female population, kind of in mass female population, kind of in mass hysteria. hysteria. hysteria. >> An epidemic of serial killers >> An epidemic of serial killers >> An epidemic of serial killers has the people of Baton Rouge looking has the people of Baton Rouge looking has the people of Baton Rouge looking over their shoulders in terror and over their shoulders in terror and over their shoulders in terror and panic. panic. panic. >> It's just not safe to to be out in the >> It's just not safe to to be out in the >> It's just not safe to to be out in the community alone in remote areas. community alone in remote areas. community alone in remote areas. >> In a 10-year period, we've had five >> In a 10-year period, we've had five >> In a 10-year period, we've had five serial killers in Baton Rouge. serial killers in Baton Rouge. serial killers in Baton Rouge. >> So, that's incredible. >> So, that's incredible. >> So, that's incredible. >> Yeah, I would say so. >> Yeah, I would say so. >> Yeah, I would say so. >> And this sadistic madman, still on the >> And this sadistic madman, still on the >> And this sadistic madman, still on the loose, has been tormenting cops for loose, has been tormenting cops for loose, has been tormenting cops for quite a while. His string of horrific quite a while. His string of horrific quite a while. His string of horrific attacks attacks attacks actually began in the '90s, and police actually began in the '90s, and police actually began in the '90s, and police believe a single psycho killer is behind believe a single psycho killer is behind believe a single psycho killer is behind all the carnage. all the carnage. all the carnage. >> Sheriff detectives say they found the >> Sheriff detectives say they found the >> Sheriff detectives say they found the nude body of a 43-year-old woman. nude body of a 43-year-old woman. nude body of a 43-year-old woman. >> Every nightly newscast reporting the >> Every nightly newscast reporting the >> Every nightly newscast reporting the discovery of yet another woman stabbed, discovery of yet another woman stabbed, discovery of yet another woman stabbed, strangled, raped, and murdered. strangled, raped, and murdered. strangled, raped, and murdered. >> It has happened again. >> It has happened again. >> It has happened again. >> He would rape each of these [music] >> He would rape each of these [music] >> He would rape each of these [music] women, and then to cover it up, beat women, and then to cover it up, beat women, and then to cover it up, beat them to death, stab them to death.

them to death, stab them to death. them to death, stab them to death. >> But one victim escapes, and she points a >> But one victim escapes, and she points a >> But one victim escapes, and she points a finger at a mentally challenged finger at a mentally challenged finger at a mentally challenged convicted voyeur, Derrick Todd Lee. convicted voyeur, Derrick Todd Lee. convicted voyeur, Derrick Todd Lee. DNA evidence ties Lee to the rapes and DNA evidence ties Lee to the rapes and DNA evidence ties Lee to the rapes and murders of at least seven women. Cops murders of at least seven women. Cops murders of at least seven women. Cops have their serial killer. The people of have their serial killer. The people of have their serial killer. The people of Baton Rouge can breathe a sigh of Baton Rouge can breathe a sigh of Baton Rouge can breathe a sigh of relief. But the nightmare is anything relief. But the nightmare is anything relief. But the nightmare is anything but over. but over. but over. >> We realized that there were murders that >> We realized that there were murders that >> We realized that there were murders that were being committed or had been were being committed or had been were being committed or had been committed that probably were not the committed that probably were not the committed that probably were not the result of um Derrick Todd Lee. result of um Derrick Todd Lee. result of um Derrick Todd Lee. >> Cops soon learn there's a new serial >> Cops soon learn there's a new serial >> Cops soon learn there's a new serial killer on the loose. killer on the loose. killer on the loose. >> My boss [music] walked in and went, >> My boss [music] walked in and went, >> My boss [music] walked in and went, "You're not going to believe this. We "You're not going to believe this. We "You're not going to believe this. We have a second one." have a second one." have a second one." >> His crimes against women are so >> His crimes against women are so >> His crimes against women are so perverse, the madman even has seasoned perverse, the madman even has seasoned perverse, the madman even has seasoned prosecutor Prem Burns shivering in fear. prosecutor Prem Burns shivering in fear. prosecutor Prem Burns shivering in fear. >> A true serial killer taking souvenirs, >> A true serial killer taking souvenirs, >> A true serial killer taking souvenirs, [music] dismembering victims. [music] dismembering victims. [music] dismembering victims. >> You're talking about someone that's >> You're talking about someone that's >> You're talking about someone that's sexually deviant. sexually deviant. sexually deviant. >> His calling cards would prove to be far >> His calling cards would prove to be far >> His calling cards would prove to be far more brutal, more brutal, more brutal, gruesome, gruesome, gruesome, and cruel than Baton Rouge had ever seen and cruel than Baton Rouge had ever seen and cruel than Baton Rouge had ever seen before.

before. before. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> They were all really petite women. It >> They were all really petite women. It >> They were all really petite women. It was very obvious that he chose women was very obvious that he chose women was very obvious that he chose women that he could handle. [music] that he could handle. [music] that he could handle. [music] >> And all also linked by a distinctive and >> And all also linked by a distinctive and >> And all also linked by a distinctive and grizzly manner of death. grizzly manner of death. grizzly manner of death. >> All of the victims were killed >> All of the victims were killed >> All of the victims were killed by use of nylon zip ties. by use of nylon zip ties. by use of nylon zip ties. >> The killings begin again with the >> The killings begin again with the >> The killings begin again with the discovery of Katherine Hall, discovery of Katherine Hall, discovery of Katherine Hall, found at the end of this dark rural found at the end of this dark rural found at the end of this dark rural road, nude, strangled, her body hacked road, nude, strangled, her body hacked road, nude, strangled, her body hacked and sliced to the bone. and sliced to the bone. and sliced to the bone. >> Her legs were were really sliced up, >> Her legs were were really sliced up, >> Her legs were were really sliced up, man. man. man. >> And chillingly, Katherine's body is >> And chillingly, Katherine's body is >> And chillingly, Katherine's body is found displayed [music] beneath a street found displayed [music] beneath a street found displayed [music] beneath a street sign in a twisted parody of death. sign in a twisted parody of death. sign in a twisted parody of death. >> She was on her back in a kind of >> She was on her back in a kind of >> She was on her back in a kind of balletic balletic balletic pose. pose. pose. Next to a dead end sign, Next to a dead end sign, Next to a dead end sign, >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> which I thought was his humor in a very >> which I thought was his humor in a very >> which I thought was his humor in a very sick kind of way. Dead end. sick kind of way. Dead end. sick kind of way. Dead end. >> And one more horrifying detail.

>> And one more horrifying detail. >> And one more horrifying detail. >> He had sex with his victims after they >> He had sex with his victims after they >> He had sex with his victims after they were dead. were dead. were dead. >> Very [music] close examination of her >> Very [music] close examination of her >> Very [music] close examination of her mouth showed that there was a pubic hair mouth showed that there was a pubic hair mouth showed that there was a pubic hair with a root ball, with a root ball, with a root ball, which allows full DNA testing. which allows full DNA testing. which allows full DNA testing. >> Is it obvious [music] >> Is it obvious [music] >> Is it obvious [music] to police to police to police that you have the potential of [music] a that you have the potential of [music] a that you have the potential of [music] a ritual ritual ritual serial killer? serial killer? serial killer? >> they said this is not a normal heat of >> they said this is not a normal heat of >> they said this is not a normal heat of the moment homicide. the moment homicide. the moment homicide. Knew we had a problem. Knew we had a problem. Knew we had a problem. >> A problem that would escalate when the >> A problem that would escalate when the >> A problem that would escalate when the killer ups his ante with another murder killer ups his ante with another murder killer ups his ante with another murder even more vicious and gruesome. even more vicious and gruesome. even more vicious and gruesome. >> Johnny Mae Williams face down in the >> Johnny Mae Williams face down in the >> Johnny Mae Williams face down in the woods decomposing covered up. You could woods decomposing covered up. You could woods decomposing covered up. You could barely tell it was a human being. barely tell it was a human being. barely tell it was a human being. A little boy found her, called his dad A little boy found her, called his dad A little boy found her, called his dad back and his father said, "Don't don't back and his father said, "Don't don't back and his father said, "Don't don't play around. That's not a funny thing to play around. That's not a funny thing to play around. That's not a funny thing to say." say." say." Daddy goes back and sees that there is a Daddy goes back and sees that there is a Daddy goes back and sees that there is a human being there. human being there. human being there. >> The 45-year-old Johnny Mae Williams has >> The 45-year-old Johnny Mae Williams has >> The 45-year-old Johnny Mae Williams has been strangled to death. Her body once been strangled to death. Her body once been strangled to death. Her body once again laid out for maximum horror.

again laid out for maximum horror. again laid out for maximum horror. >> He obviously had posed her >> He obviously had posed her >> He obviously had posed her uh looking for the shock factor cuz her uh looking for the shock factor cuz her uh looking for the shock factor cuz her legs legs legs were sliced down the back and on the were sliced down the back and on the were sliced down the back and on the front pretty good. front pretty good. front pretty good. >> But Johnny Mae's killer wasn't done with >> But Johnny Mae's killer wasn't done with >> But Johnny Mae's killer wasn't done with her her her even after her death. even after her death. even after her death. >> Had her arms folded up under her. >> Had her arms folded up under her. >> Had her arms folded up under her. When she was rolled over her arms fell When she was rolled over her arms fell When she was rolled over her arms fell out and it was at that point that we saw out and it was at that point that we saw out and it was at that point that we saw that her hands had been cut off. that her hands had been cut off. that her hands had been cut off. He was getting more and more bold and He was getting more and more bold and He was getting more and more bold and and brazen I guess uh since he had and brazen I guess uh since he had and brazen I guess uh since he had gotten away with it [music] this long. gotten away with it [music] this long. gotten away with it [music] this long. >> But that bold and brazen act would give >> But that bold and brazen act would give >> But that bold and brazen act would give up another genetic sign of her killer. up another genetic sign of her killer. up another genetic sign of her killer. >> Even though her hands had been cut off >> Even though her hands had been cut off >> Even though her hands had been cut off they looked at the bones and a human they looked at the bones and a human they looked at the bones and a human hair was found. hair was found. hair was found. And it was a body hair. And it was a body hair. And it was a body hair. And they could tell it was from a And they could tell it was from a And they could tell it was from a Caucasian male. Caucasian male. Caucasian male. >> Several months later the butcher strikes >> Several months later the butcher strikes >> Several months later the butcher strikes again. again. again. >> About 7:40 two residents from this area >> About 7:40 two residents from this area >> About 7:40 two residents from this area were walking looking for their dog. were walking looking for their dog. were walking looking for their dog. Uh they stopped at this bridge and Uh they stopped at this bridge and Uh they stopped at this bridge and observed what appeared to be a white observed what appeared to be a white observed what appeared to be a white female.

female. female. >> That body is Donna Johnston and her >> That body is Donna Johnston and her >> That body is Donna Johnston and her remains make one thing shockingly clear. remains make one thing shockingly clear. remains make one thing shockingly clear. This crazed killer is growing more sick This crazed killer is growing more sick This crazed killer is growing more sick and sadistic than before. and sadistic than before. and sadistic than before. >> She had a tattoo butterfly on her leg. >> She had a tattoo butterfly on her leg. >> She had a tattoo butterfly on her leg. And after she was dead, And after she was dead, And after she was dead, he cut that off. he cut that off. he cut that off. >> She fought with [music] him, and we know >> She fought with [music] him, and we know >> She fought with [music] him, and we know she fought with him because his DNA was she fought with him because his DNA was she fought with him because his DNA was under the fingernails of her right hand. under the fingernails of her right hand. under the fingernails of her right hand. She only had one hand left because he She only had one hand left because he She only had one hand left because he amputated amputated amputated >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> her left arm >> her left arm >> her left arm right below the elbow. right below the elbow. right below the elbow. >> So, now you've got three women >> So, now you've got three women >> So, now you've got three women badly mutilated. You know you've got a badly mutilated. You know you've got a badly mutilated. You know you've got a serial killer on your hands. serial killer on your hands. serial killer on your hands. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Detectives are armed with a load of DNA >> Detectives are armed with a load of DNA >> Detectives are armed with a load of DNA evidence, but there's a problem. The DNA evidence, but there's a problem. The DNA evidence, but there's a problem. The DNA profile doesn't match anyone in the profile doesn't match anyone in the profile doesn't match anyone in the system. system. system. Investigators scan every blade of grass Investigators scan every blade of grass Investigators scan every blade of grass around Donna's body looking for around Donna's body looking for around Donna's body looking for additional evidence. additional evidence. additional evidence. And there, pressed into the mud, a blink And there, pressed into the mud, a blink And there, pressed into the mud, a blink and you'd miss it clue.

and you'd miss it clue. and you'd miss it clue. >> It was actually a cow pasture >> It was actually a cow pasture >> It was actually a cow pasture um where she was dumped. um where she was dumped. um where she was dumped. And there were some ruts where vehicles And there were some ruts where vehicles And there were some ruts where vehicles have been passing back and forth. It was have been passing back and forth. It was have been passing back and forth. It was really very significant-looking tire really very significant-looking tire really very significant-looking tire tracks. So, we did [music] tire tracks. So, we did [music] tire tracks. So, we did [music] tire castings. It was a Goodyear tire. castings. It was a Goodyear tire. castings. It was a Goodyear tire. >> The city of Baton Rouge is under siege. >> The city of Baton Rouge is under siege. >> The city of Baton Rouge is under siege. Hacked and butchered bodies of women Hacked and butchered bodies of women Hacked and butchered bodies of women turning up strangled with zip ties turning up strangled with zip ties turning up strangled with zip ties around their necks, then dumped in empty around their necks, then dumped in empty around their necks, then dumped in empty fields. fields. fields. A serial killer is on a blood-soaked A serial killer is on a blood-soaked A serial killer is on a blood-soaked rampage in the dead of night. rampage in the dead of night. rampage in the dead of night. >> Every victim was found totally nude. No >> Every victim was found totally nude. No >> Every victim was found totally nude. No identification near them. identification near them. identification near them. Um making it very hard to find their Um making it very hard to find their Um making it very hard to find their identity. identity. identity. >> Nervous and frustrated cops are stumped. >> Nervous and frustrated cops are stumped. >> Nervous and frustrated cops are stumped. Then, a stone's throw from the Then, a stone's throw from the Then, a stone's throw from the dismembered body of Donna Johnston, an dismembered body of Donna Johnston, an dismembered body of Donna Johnston, an eagle-eyed investigator spots a clue eagle-eyed investigator spots a clue eagle-eyed investigator spots a clue embedded in the soft ground. Fresh tire embedded in the soft ground. Fresh tire embedded in the soft ground. Fresh tire tracks. tracks. tracks. >> That is what I call gumshoe police work.

>> That is what I call gumshoe police work. >> That is what I call gumshoe police work. He looked at those tire tracks, took He looked at those tire tracks, took He looked at those tire tracks, took pictures, made casts of it, and he would pictures, made casts of it, and he would pictures, made casts of it, and he would not let it go. not let it go. not let it go. >> And cops catch a break when the tracks >> And cops catch a break when the tracks >> And cops catch a break when the tracks come back. The tire is very rare. come back. The tire is very rare. come back. The tire is very rare. >> We do a little research, and there's >> We do a little research, and there's >> We do a little research, and there's literally only maybe literally only maybe literally only maybe a couple of hundred sets a couple of hundred sets a couple of hundred sets of these particular tire sold in the of these particular tire sold in the of these particular tire sold in the entire Baton Rouge area. entire Baton Rouge area. entire Baton Rouge area. >> Now they've got to match them and hope >> Now they've got to match them and hope >> Now they've got to match them and hope they lead to the serial killer. they lead to the serial killer. they lead to the serial killer. Major Brian White dispatches his task Major Brian White dispatches his task Major Brian White dispatches his task force, talking to everyone who purchased force, talking to everyone who purchased force, talking to everyone who purchased these tires in the last 12 months. these tires in the last 12 months. these tires in the last 12 months. >> That information was divided up into >> That information was divided up into >> That information was divided up into leads leads leads for us to go to these people's houses for us to go to these people's houses for us to go to these people's houses and ask them, do they still have and ask them, do they still have and ask them, do they still have a vehicle with those tires? a vehicle with those tires? a vehicle with those tires? >> But Major White also needs something >> But Major White also needs something >> But Major White also needs something else, a swab of DNA from the people who else, a swab of DNA from the people who else, a swab of DNA from the people who bought those tires. bought those tires. bought those tires. Remember, detectives have already Remember, detectives have already Remember, detectives have already gathered DNA samples from the victims, gathered DNA samples from the victims, gathered DNA samples from the victims, from Katherine Hall's mouth, the bones from Katherine Hall's mouth, the bones from Katherine Hall's mouth, the bones of Johnny Mae Williams' severed arms, of Johnny Mae Williams' severed arms, of Johnny Mae Williams' severed arms, and under the fingernails of Donna and under the fingernails of Donna and under the fingernails of Donna Johnston's one remaining arm. But none Johnston's one remaining arm. But none Johnston's one remaining arm. But none of the samples match anyone currently in of the samples match anyone currently in of the samples match anyone currently in the DNA database. A tire might place a the DNA database. A tire might place a the DNA database. A tire might place a car in that field, but DNA could tie the car in that field, but DNA could tie the car in that field, but DNA could tie the victims to their killer.

victims to their killer. victims to their killer. >> And we asked them if they would >> And we asked them if they would >> And we asked them if they would voluntarily can submit to an oral DNA voluntarily can submit to an oral DNA voluntarily can submit to an oral DNA swab. But a lot of people were like, swab. But a lot of people were like, swab. But a lot of people were like, I've never killed anyone, sure I will. I've never killed anyone, sure I will. I've never killed anyone, sure I will. But uh But uh But uh that's ultimately what led us to Shawn. that's ultimately what led us to Shawn. that's ultimately what led us to Shawn. >> Shawn is Shawn Vincent Gillis. He's one >> Shawn is Shawn Vincent Gillis. He's one >> Shawn is Shawn Vincent Gillis. He's one of those 200 tire owners in the area. of those 200 tire owners in the area. of those 200 tire owners in the area. Gillis is unemployed, soft-spoken, and Gillis is unemployed, soft-spoken, and Gillis is unemployed, soft-spoken, and intelligent, living in this home owned intelligent, living in this home owned intelligent, living in this home owned by his mom. He has no criminal history, by his mom. He has no criminal history, by his mom. He has no criminal history, and by all accounts, just a and by all accounts, just a and by all accounts, just a run-of-the-mill, mild-mannered science run-of-the-mill, mild-mannered science run-of-the-mill, mild-mannered science fiction geek. fiction geek. fiction geek. >> was >> was >> was huge Star Trek fan. He had on a huge Star Trek fan. He had on a huge Star Trek fan. He had on a USS Enterprise belt buckle. USS Enterprise belt buckle. USS Enterprise belt buckle. Just different kind of guy. Just different kind of guy. Just different kind of guy. >> But it's not what he's wearing. It's >> But it's not what he's wearing. It's >> But it's not what he's wearing. It's what he says to the detective at his what he says to the detective at his what he says to the detective at his door that sounds a red alert. door that sounds a red alert. door that sounds a red alert. >> Very suspicious statements. >> Very suspicious statements. >> Very suspicious statements. >> Then another investigator tells >> Then another investigator tells >> Then another investigator tells Detective White something that sends a Detective White something that sends a Detective White something that sends a shiver down his spine. shiver down his spine. shiver down his spine. >> And he said, "Brian, you're not you're >> And he said, "Brian, you're not you're >> And he said, "Brian, you're not you're not going to believe this." He said, uh not going to believe this." He said, uh not going to believe this." He said, uh "This guy knows one of the victims said "This guy knows one of the victims said "This guy knows one of the victims said she's ridden in his car."

she's ridden in his car." she's ridden in his car." >> Shawn is now admitting that he knows >> Shawn is now admitting that he knows >> Shawn is now admitting that he knows Johnny Mae. Johnny Mae. Johnny Mae. >> He said, "Johnny Mae Williams was a >> He said, "Johnny Mae Williams was a >> He said, "Johnny Mae Williams was a friend of his." He said, "Oh, and matter friend of his." He said, "Oh, and matter friend of his." He said, "Oh, and matter of fact, she's ridden in my vehicle of fact, she's ridden in my vehicle of fact, she's ridden in my vehicle before. before. before. Uh she's been in my home, you know, I Uh she's been in my home, you know, I Uh she's been in my home, you know, I used to pay her to clean my house." used to pay her to clean my house." used to pay her to clean my house." >> Gillis even admitted to being near the >> Gillis even admitted to being near the >> Gillis even admitted to being near the crime scene and offered a strange excuse crime scene and offered a strange excuse crime scene and offered a strange excuse as to why his tire tracks were in that as to why his tire tracks were in that as to why his tire tracks were in that field when police asked him to come down field when police asked him to come down field when police asked him to come down for what they called a little friendly for what they called a little friendly for what they called a little friendly Q&A. Q&A. Q&A. >> I had some beer and needed to go to the >> I had some beer and needed to go to the >> I had some beer and needed to go to the bathroom real bad and you all weren't bathroom real bad and you all weren't bathroom real bad and you all weren't going to make it to the house. going to make it to the house. going to make it to the house. >> He kind of >> He kind of >> He kind of was like, "Yeah, I was there, [music] was like, "Yeah, I was there, [music] was like, "Yeah, I was there, [music] but it wasn't at the time of this but it wasn't at the time of this but it wasn't at the time of this murder. Yes, I was there, but it wasn't murder. Yes, I was there, but it wasn't murder. Yes, I was there, but it wasn't to dump a body. to dump a body. to dump a body. Yes, I was there, but it was to use the Yes, I was there, but it was to use the Yes, I was there, but it was to use the bathroom." bathroom." bathroom." >> And you know what I'm saying? And my >> And you know what I'm saying? And my >> And you know what I'm saying? And my bladder was How do they put it? Keith bladder was How do they put it? Keith bladder was How do they put it? Keith and John put it one time, "My eyes are and John put it one time, "My eyes are and John put it one time, "My eyes are floating." That's how I That's how it floating." That's how I That's how it floating." That's how I That's how it felt. felt. felt. >> So he had an excuse for everything. >> So he had an excuse for everything. >> So he had an excuse for everything. >> And if cops should find any blood in his >> And if cops should find any blood in his >> And if cops should find any blood in his car, Gillis has an excuse for that, too. car, Gillis has an excuse for that, too. car, Gillis has an excuse for that, too. [music] [music] [music] And this one is a true original.

And this one is a true original. And this one is a true original. >> About a month after we got the car, >> About a month after we got the car, >> About a month after we got the car, she got her period. she got her period. she got her period. >> And he made one of the dumbest >> And he made one of the dumbest >> And he made one of the dumbest statements I've ever heard. statements I've ever heard. statements I've ever heard. He said, "Well, yeah, um He said, "Well, yeah, um He said, "Well, yeah, um my wife, Terry, my wife, Terry, my wife, Terry, he said at that time she was uh on her he said at that time she was uh on her he said at that time she was uh on her menstrual cycle." menstrual cycle." menstrual cycle." >> She had her period and it just soaked. >> She had her period and it just soaked. >> She had her period and it just soaked. I mean, it's like I said, it looked like I mean, it's like I said, it looked like I mean, it's like I said, it looked like a massacre in the front seat. a massacre in the front seat. a massacre in the front seat. >> He said, "Man, the blood just started >> He said, "Man, the blood just started >> He said, "Man, the blood just started flying everywhere in the vehicle." flying everywhere in the vehicle." flying everywhere in the vehicle." >> Because that was just the craziest story >> Because that was just the craziest story >> Because that was just the craziest story ever. ever. ever. >> It it was insane. And Max said, "Well, >> It it was insane. And Max said, "Well, >> It it was insane. And Max said, "Well, let me ask you this, then. let me ask you this, then. let me ask you this, then. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> Is there any reason >> Is there any reason >> Is there any reason that blood could be in the backseat?" that blood could be in the backseat?" that blood could be in the backseat?" >> Gillis's answer is just as ridiculous. >> Gillis's answer is just as ridiculous. >> Gillis's answer is just as ridiculous. >> Not that I know of. >> Not that I know of. >> Not that I know of. I mean, barring, you know, wind blowing, I mean, barring, you know, wind blowing, I mean, barring, you know, wind blowing, you know. you know. you know. I'm not saying you might not find one of I'm not saying you might not find one of I'm not saying you might not find one of Johnny's hairs back there, but you Johnny's hairs back there, but you Johnny's hairs back there, but you shouldn't find any anything from anyone shouldn't find any anything from anyone shouldn't find any anything from anyone else. else. else. >> And he said, "Well, yeah, >> And he said, "Well, yeah, >> And he said, "Well, yeah, I think the windows were down, and I think the windows were down, and I think the windows were down, and probably some blood flew out the window probably some blood flew out the window probably some blood flew out the window and got blown back in." and got blown back in." and got blown back in." >> Because that's really how blood travels. >> Because that's really how blood travels. >> Because that's really how blood travels. >> And everyone at that time looked at him >> And everyone at that time looked at him >> And everyone at that time looked at him and said, "It's him."

and said, "It's him." and said, "It's him." >> I'll be right back, okay? >> I'll be right back, okay? >> I'll be right back, okay? So much for the friendly Q&A. So much for the friendly Q&A. So much for the friendly Q&A. >> When he made those statements, at that >> When he made those statements, at that >> When he made those statements, at that point, point, point, I turned to one of our detectives and I turned to one of our detectives and I turned to one of our detectives and said, said, said, "Draft a search warrant for his vehicle "Draft a search warrant for his vehicle "Draft a search warrant for his vehicle right now." right now." right now." And we did. And we did. And we did. >> And analyzing Gillis's cheek swab is now >> And analyzing Gillis's cheek swab is now >> And analyzing Gillis's cheek swab is now top priority. top priority. top priority. >> We called the crime lab and said, >> We called the crime lab and said, >> We called the crime lab and said, "This DNA swab we're bringing you, "This DNA swab we're bringing you, "This DNA swab we're bringing you, put whoever you got to put on it, but if put whoever you got to put on it, but if put whoever you got to put on it, but if you could expedite, we think we have our you could expedite, we think we have our you could expedite, we think we have our guy." guy." guy." And they they started working on it And they they started working on it And they they started working on it immediately. immediately. immediately. >> But the lab would have to work fast. >> But the lab would have to work fast. >> But the lab would have to work fast. Even with the tire match and Gillis's Even with the tire match and Gillis's Even with the tire match and Gillis's outrageous statements, outrageous statements, outrageous statements, cops can't hold him. cops can't hold him. cops can't hold him. >> But you had to let him go because you >> But you had to let him go because you >> But you had to let him go because you didn't have evidence yet. didn't have evidence yet. didn't have evidence yet. >> We had some very incriminating >> We had some very incriminating >> We had some very incriminating statements, but it was all statements, but it was all statements, but it was all circumstantial. circumstantial. circumstantial. >> And that [music] terrifies detectives. >> And that [music] terrifies detectives. >> And that [music] terrifies detectives. What if Gillis takes off, or worse, what What if Gillis takes off, or worse, what What if Gillis takes off, or worse, what if the stress drives Gillis to kill if the stress drives Gillis to kill if the stress drives Gillis to kill again? Cops are now secretly tailing again? Cops are now secretly tailing again? Cops are now secretly tailing Shawn Vincent Gillis's every move.

Shawn Vincent Gillis's every move. Shawn Vincent Gillis's every move. >> We had people watching the house. We had >> We had people watching the house. We had >> We had people watching the house. We had people watching every possible exit in people watching every possible exit in people watching every possible exit in and out of that subdivision. and out of that subdivision. and out of that subdivision. >> Cops are pacing, ready to pounce. >> Cops are pacing, ready to pounce. >> Cops are pacing, ready to pounce. >> And then we just went and waited on >> And then we just went and waited on >> And then we just went and waited on crime lab results. crime lab results. crime lab results. >> It would be one of the longest nights of >> It would be one of the longest nights of >> It would be one of the longest nights of the detective's life. the detective's life. the detective's life. >> It's kind of like >> It's kind of like >> It's kind of like an expectant father, maybe pacing in the an expectant father, maybe pacing in the an expectant father, maybe pacing in the waiting room. waiting room. waiting room. >> Sean Vincent Gillis, cops think he's >> Sean Vincent Gillis, cops think he's >> Sean Vincent Gillis, cops think he's responsible for the ghastly murders of responsible for the ghastly murders of responsible for the ghastly murders of three women in Baton Rouge. three women in Baton Rouge. three women in Baton Rouge. >> They made a very short, but very fine >> They made a very short, but very fine >> They made a very short, but very fine tape of him where he was very tape of him where he was very tape of him where he was very nonchalant. Oh, yeah, I I knew her. nonchalant. Oh, yeah, I I knew her. nonchalant. Oh, yeah, I I knew her. >> She cleaned my house singing that I >> She cleaned my house singing that I >> She cleaned my house singing that I never cleaned my house. never cleaned my house. never cleaned my house. >> There's DNA evidence collected from the >> There's DNA evidence collected from the >> There's DNA evidence collected from the bodies of three victims. bodies of three victims. bodies of three victims. >> The DNA evidence obtained all came from >> The DNA evidence obtained all came from >> The DNA evidence obtained all came from the same male. the same male. the same male. >> But so far, no one can prove that male >> But so far, no one can prove that male >> But so far, no one can prove that male is Gillis. And he didn't feel much like is Gillis. And he didn't feel much like is Gillis. And he didn't feel much like talking anymore once detectives turned talking anymore once detectives turned talking anymore once detectives turned up the heat during his interrogation.

up the heat during his interrogation. up the heat during his interrogation. >> Right after that, Shawn kind of started >> Right after that, Shawn kind of started >> Right after that, Shawn kind of started getting irritated. He said, "Look, getting irritated. He said, "Look, getting irritated. He said, "Look, guys." He said, "I haven't killed guys." He said, "I haven't killed guys." He said, "I haven't killed anyone. You told me if I came when I was anyone. You told me if I came when I was anyone. You told me if I came when I was ready to come home, you'd bring me home. ready to come home, you'd bring me home. ready to come home, you'd bring me home. I want to go home. I'm ready to go." I want to go home. I'm ready to go." I want to go home. I'm ready to go." >> Without lab results tying him to the >> Without lab results tying him to the >> Without lab results tying him to the crimes, cops [music] have no choice but crimes, cops [music] have no choice but crimes, cops [music] have no choice but to cut Gillis loose. to cut Gillis loose. to cut Gillis loose. >> We had his subdivision locked down. He >> We had his subdivision locked down. He >> We had his subdivision locked down. He wasn't leaving without us finding out wasn't leaving without us finding out wasn't leaving without us finding out cuz we were [music] scared that once we cuz we were [music] scared that once we cuz we were [music] scared that once we got him home, you know, he was going to got him home, you know, he was going to got him home, you know, he was going to panic and try to run. panic and try to run. panic and try to run. >> That fear has Major Brian White >> That fear has Major Brian White >> That fear has Major Brian White literally pacing by the phone for the literally pacing by the phone for the literally pacing by the phone for the DNA lab results. Then, after several DNA lab results. Then, after several DNA lab results. Then, after several excruciating hours of waiting, the phone excruciating hours of waiting, the phone excruciating hours of waiting, the phone rings. rings. rings. >> When they called that night, they said, >> When they called that night, they said, >> When they called that night, they said, "It's him." "It's him." "It's him." >> You had him. >> You had him. >> You had him. >> We had him. >> We had him. >> We had him. >> We absolutely knew who the killer was. >> We absolutely knew who the killer was. >> We absolutely knew who the killer was. >> The next call White makes is to a judge >> The next call White makes is to a judge >> The next call White makes is to a judge to get a warrant for Gillis's arrest. to get a warrant for Gillis's arrest. to get a warrant for Gillis's arrest. >> As soon as the warrants were signed, the >> As soon as the warrants were signed, the >> As soon as the warrants were signed, the SWAT team made preparations to hit his SWAT team made preparations to hit his SWAT team made preparations to hit his house. house. house. And they hit it shortly thereafter.

And they hit it shortly thereafter. And they hit it shortly thereafter. >> Cops swarm Gillis's home, and they're in >> Cops swarm Gillis's home, and they're in >> Cops swarm Gillis's home, and they're in for a shock. The killer doesn't live for a shock. The killer doesn't live for a shock. The killer doesn't live alone. alone. alone. >> I think he He found in bed with Terry. >> I think he He found in bed with Terry. >> I think he He found in bed with Terry. >> That's right. Gillis has a girlfriend, >> That's right. Gillis has a girlfriend, >> That's right. Gillis has a girlfriend, Terry Lemoine. And Terry says she had no Terry Lemoine. And Terry says she had no Terry Lemoine. And Terry says she had no idea why a SWAT team is busting down her idea why a SWAT team is busting down her idea why a SWAT team is busting down her door. door. door. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> I'm yelling, "What's going on? What's >> I'm yelling, "What's going on? What's >> I'm yelling, "What's going on? What's going on?" going on?" going on?" And I look at Shawn, and Shawn just And I look at Shawn, and Shawn just And I look at Shawn, and Shawn just shrugs his shoulders and shrugs his shoulders and shrugs his shoulders and and says, "Sorry, honey bunny." and says, "Sorry, honey bunny." and says, "Sorry, honey bunny." >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> And one of the officers turns around and >> And one of the officers turns around and >> And one of the officers turns around and looks at me and says, "Didn't you know looks at me and says, "Didn't you know looks at me and says, "Didn't you know you're living with a serial killer?" you're living with a serial killer?" you're living with a serial killer?" The whole The whole The whole world came tumbling down that night. world came tumbling down that night. world came tumbling down that night. >> It's a seemingly quiet world Terry has >> It's a seemingly quiet world Terry has >> It's a seemingly quiet world Terry has shared with [music] Shawn Vincent Gillis shared with [music] Shawn Vincent Gillis shared with [music] Shawn Vincent Gillis for 9 years. A long time since Terry, a for 9 years. A long time since Terry, a for 9 years. A long time since Terry, a convenience store clerk, first [music] convenience store clerk, first [music] convenience store clerk, first [music] laid eyes on the shy, quirky Gillis. laid eyes on the shy, quirky Gillis. laid eyes on the shy, quirky Gillis. >> My best friend walks in and says, >> My best friend walks in and says, >> My best friend walks in and says, "Shawn, [music] this is Terry. Terry, "Shawn, [music] this is Terry. Terry, "Shawn, [music] this is Terry. Terry, this is Shawn. Y'all have everything in this is Shawn. Y'all have everything in this is Shawn. Y'all have everything in common. You have to get to know each common. You have to get to know each common. You have to get to know each other."

other." other." >> Well, what did she think that the two of >> Well, what did she think that the two of >> Well, what did she think that the two of you had in common? you had in common? you had in common? >> We both love science fiction. We both >> We both love science fiction. We both >> We both love science fiction. We both love Star Trek. We both loved collecting love Star Trek. We both loved collecting love Star Trek. We both loved collecting things. things. things. >> At first, [music] there's no clue to >> At first, [music] there's no clue to >> At first, [music] there's no clue to what Gillis really liked to collect. what Gillis really liked to collect. what Gillis really liked to collect. >> He was cute in a little teddy bear sort >> He was cute in a little teddy bear sort >> He was cute in a little teddy bear sort of way. Type of person you'd want to of way. Type of person you'd want to of way. Type of person you'd want to bring home to mom, actually. bring home to mom, actually. bring home to mom, actually. >> Really? >> Really? >> Really? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Platonic dating leads to Terry moving >> Platonic dating leads to Terry moving >> Platonic dating leads to Terry moving into Gillis's dilapidated house where into Gillis's dilapidated house where into Gillis's dilapidated house where things, according to Terry, stayed things, according to Terry, stayed things, according to Terry, stayed platonic. platonic. platonic. >> Shawn didn't believe in sex. >> Shawn didn't believe in sex. >> Shawn didn't believe in sex. >> What does that mean? >> What does that mean? >> What does that mean? >> I asked him about it one time, and uh >> I asked him about it one time, and uh >> I asked him about it one time, and uh he told me that he had been taught that he told me that he had been taught that he told me that he had been taught that it was a nasty thing, and that he it was a nasty thing, and that he it was a nasty thing, and that he shouldn't do that. shouldn't do that. shouldn't do that. >> Terry still worked at the convenience >> Terry still worked at the convenience >> Terry still worked at the convenience store. Gillis's only job was picking store. Gillis's only job was picking store. Gillis's only job was picking Terry up after her shift. There's often Terry up after her shift. There's often Terry up after her shift. There's often odd behavior, but Gillis, again, always odd behavior, but Gillis, again, always odd behavior, but Gillis, again, always has an excuse. has an excuse. has an excuse. >> One morning, he came and picked me up. >> One morning, he came and picked me up. >> One morning, he came and picked me up. And the car had an awful odor in it. And And the car had an awful odor in it. And And the car had an awful odor in it. And I was I was I was so tired and I was like, "What is that so tired and I was like, "What is that so tired and I was like, "What is that smell in the car?" And he said he had smell in the car?" And he said he had smell in the car?" And he said he had hit an animal on the way picking me up.

hit an animal on the way picking me up. hit an animal on the way picking me up. Came home, I came inside, went to bed, Came home, I came inside, went to bed, Came home, I came inside, went to bed, he went to wash in the car. he went to wash in the car. he went to wash in the car. >> Terry also notices Gillis is racking up >> Terry also notices Gillis is racking up >> Terry also notices Gillis is racking up a lot of miles on the car. a lot of miles on the car. a lot of miles on the car. >> And what's his explanation? >> And what's his explanation? >> And what's his explanation? >> Well, I got kind of concerned and wanted >> Well, I got kind of concerned and wanted >> Well, I got kind of concerned and wanted to know who he was driving around with. to know who he was driving around with. to know who he was driving around with. >> You thought he was cheating. >> You thought he was cheating. >> You thought he was cheating. >> I thought he was. >> I thought he was. >> I thought he was. >> But that's not what he was doing. >> But that's not what he was doing. >> But that's not what he was doing. >> No. >> No. >> No. >> What was he really doing? >> What was he really doing? >> What was he really doing? >> I found [music] out from the police that >> I found [music] out from the police that >> I found [music] out from the police that he was hunting. he was hunting. he was hunting. >> Hunting in what sense? >> Hunting in what sense? >> Hunting in what sense? >> Looking basically for >> Looking basically for >> Looking basically for someone to kill. someone to kill. someone to kill. >> Now, 9 years later, surrounded by cops >> Now, 9 years later, surrounded by cops >> Now, 9 years later, surrounded by cops with her boyfriend in cuffs, Terry still with her boyfriend in cuffs, Terry still with her boyfriend in cuffs, Terry still can't believe it. can't believe it. can't believe it. >> When everything happened, I laughed at >> When everything happened, I laughed at >> When everything happened, I laughed at the police when they told me why they the police when they told me why they the police when they told me why they arrested. arrested. arrested. >> You laughed? >> You laughed? >> You laughed? >> I literally laughed and told them, "Boy, >> I literally laughed and told them, "Boy, >> I literally laughed and told them, "Boy, do you have the wrong house." They said do you have the wrong house." They said do you have the wrong house." They said he admitted it. he admitted it. he admitted it. And at which point my mouth just dropped And at which point my mouth just dropped And at which point my mouth just dropped and I said, "Well, I'll have to ask him and I said, "Well, I'll have to ask him and I said, "Well, I'll have to ask him myself." >> Terry LeMoyne shared a bed with accused >> Terry LeMoyne shared a bed with accused serial killer Shawn Vincent Gillis for 9 serial killer Shawn Vincent Gillis for 9 serial killer Shawn Vincent Gillis for 9 years, but she's convinced cops have her years, but she's convinced cops have her years, but she's convinced cops have her boyfriend all wrong.

boyfriend all wrong. boyfriend all wrong. >> I never saw anything bad about him. >> I never saw anything bad about him. >> I never saw anything bad about him. >> So, Terry goes to get the truth straight >> So, Terry goes to get the truth straight >> So, Terry goes to get the truth straight from Gillis himself. [music] from Gillis himself. [music] from Gillis himself. [music] >> I just walked into the police station >> I just walked into the police station >> I just walked into the police station and picked up the little phone and and picked up the little phone and and picked up the little phone and asked. I just said, "Shawn, did you do asked. I just said, "Shawn, did you do asked. I just said, "Shawn, did you do everything that these police officers everything that these police officers everything that these police officers said you did?" And again, said you did?" And again, said you did?" And again, the little thing with the head the little thing with the head the little thing with the head drops his eyes and says, "Yeah, sorry, drops his eyes and says, "Yeah, sorry, drops his eyes and says, "Yeah, sorry, honey bunny." Again, [music] honey bunny." Again, [music] honey bunny." Again, [music] and I just got up and I just got up and I just got up and turned around and walked out. and turned around and walked out. and turned around and walked out. >> But Terry isn't the only one hear Gillis >> But Terry isn't the only one hear Gillis >> But Terry isn't the only one hear Gillis come clean. Sitting for hours in a come clean. Sitting for hours in a come clean. Sitting for hours in a cramped interrogation room, cops hear cramped interrogation room, cops hear cramped interrogation room, cops hear every sick secret come spilling [music] every sick secret come spilling [music] every sick secret come spilling [music] out. out. out. >> I'm sorry I hurt people. >> I'm sorry I hurt people. >> I'm sorry I hurt people. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> But I would do it again. >> But I would do it again. >> But I would do it again. >> Once he started confessing, he >> Once he started confessing, he >> Once he started confessing, he confessed. He laid it out A to Z. confessed. He laid it out A to Z. confessed. He laid it out A to Z. >> If anything from my old useless life >> If anything from my old useless life >> If anything from my old useless life comes out, comes out, comes out, help help help the little girls of today not to be the the little girls of today not to be the the little girls of today not to be the premature corpses of tomorrow.

premature corpses of tomorrow. premature corpses of tomorrow. >> Starting with this, the three victims >> Starting with this, the three victims >> Starting with this, the three victims he's accused of killing. That's just the he's accused of killing. That's just the he's accused of killing. That's just the tip of a horrifying iceberg. tip of a horrifying iceberg. tip of a horrifying iceberg. >> It's just like something clicked in >> It's just like something clicked in >> It's just like something clicked in Shawn's brain cuz at some point he Shawn's brain cuz at some point he Shawn's brain cuz at some point he looked at me and said, "Hey, you you got looked at me and said, "Hey, you you got looked at me and said, "Hey, you you got a pencil?" I said, "Sure." And he a pencil?" I said, "Sure." And he a pencil?" I said, "Sure." And he started rattling them off. started rattling them off. started rattling them off. >> What, he listed the names of the >> What, he listed the names of the >> What, he listed the names of the victims? victims? victims? >> He started naming other victims. He >> He started naming other victims. He >> He started naming other victims. He said, "Get ready." said, "Get ready." said, "Get ready." >> How many did he admit to? >> How many did he admit to? >> How many did he admit to? >> He admitted to the three that we had him >> He admitted to the three that we had him >> He admitted to the three that we had him on, and he admitted to five more. on, and he admitted to five more. on, and he admitted to five more. >> Unsolved murders that had stumped >> Unsolved murders that had stumped >> Unsolved murders that had stumped detectives for years. Hardy Schmidt, detectives for years. Hardy Schmidt, detectives for years. Hardy Schmidt, Joyce Williams, Lillian Robinson, Joyce Williams, Lillian Robinson, Joyce Williams, Lillian Robinson, Marilyn Nevils, and 81-year-old Marilyn Nevils, and 81-year-old Marilyn Nevils, and 81-year-old Ann Bryan. Ann Bryan. Ann Bryan. >> Were you shocked at the number? >> Were you shocked at the number? >> Were you shocked at the number? >> I was shocked at some of the names he >> I was shocked at some of the names he >> I was shocked at some of the names he threw out there. threw out there. threw out there. >> Before his arrest, Gillis's stories and >> Before his arrest, Gillis's stories and >> Before his arrest, Gillis's stories and excuses were almost comical. excuses were almost comical. excuses were almost comical. >> She had a period and it just soaked. >> She had a period and it just soaked. >> She had a period and it just soaked. I mean, it's like I said, it looked like I mean, it's like I said, it looked like I mean, it's like I said, it looked like a massacre in that room, see? a massacre in that room, see? a massacre in that room, see? >> But now, Gillis knows the jig is up, and >> But now, Gillis knows the jig is up, and >> But now, Gillis knows the jig is up, and his latest interrogation [music] his latest interrogation [music] his latest interrogation [music] is no joke.

is no joke. is no joke. >> He was someone that in a way he was >> He was someone that in a way he was >> He was someone that in a way he was charming. He was very talkative. He was charming. He was very talkative. He was charming. He was very talkative. He was so talkative. I was very curious to see so talkative. I was very curious to see so talkative. I was very curious to see where he would go next. where he would go next. where he would go next. >> And where Gillis goes next is >> And where Gillis goes next is >> And where Gillis goes next is terrifying. terrifying. terrifying. In chilling, matter-of-fact detail, he In chilling, matter-of-fact detail, he In chilling, matter-of-fact detail, he recounts his ritual after Terry left for recounts his ritual after Terry left for recounts his ritual after Terry left for the night shift. the night shift. the night shift. >> You let me out on the street, I'll find >> You let me out on the street, I'll find >> You let me out on the street, I'll find somebody before sundown. somebody before sundown. somebody before sundown. >> Hunting women, strangling and mutilating >> Hunting women, strangling and mutilating >> Hunting women, strangling and mutilating them, then using their bodies them, then using their bodies them, then using their bodies for unspeakable acts of sexual for unspeakable acts of sexual for unspeakable acts of sexual gratification. gratification. gratification. >> When you say hunting women, >> When you say hunting women, >> When you say hunting women, >> I was strictly going out looking >> I was strictly going out looking >> I was strictly going out looking for a victim. for a victim. for a victim. >> Gilles' prey, prostitutes, drug addicts, >> Gilles' prey, prostitutes, drug addicts, >> Gilles' prey, prostitutes, drug addicts, anyone who looked helpless or willing to anyone who looked helpless or willing to anyone who looked helpless or willing to get into his car. get into his car. get into his car. >> Disposable people. People that society >> Disposable people. People that society >> Disposable people. People that society would not miss. He considered them to be would not miss. He considered them to be would not miss. He considered them to be worthless. worthless. worthless. >> Even beat to death looks better than >> Even beat to death looks better than >> Even beat to death looks better than that photo you've got over right there.

that photo you've got over right there. that photo you've got over right there. >> Once inside his car, Gilles wasted no >> Once inside his car, Gilles wasted no >> Once inside his car, Gilles wasted no time in brandishing his crude instrument time in brandishing his crude instrument time in brandishing his crude instrument of [music] death. of [music] death. of [music] death. >> He used zip ties and he showed how >> He used zip ties and he showed how >> He used zip ties and he showed how effective a zip tie was. effective a zip tie was. effective a zip tie was. >> White nylon tie line. I mean, we're >> White nylon tie line. I mean, we're >> White nylon tie line. I mean, we're talking 2 and 1/2 ft long at least. You talking 2 and 1/2 ft long at least. You talking 2 and 1/2 ft long at least. You can make a 5-ft Yeah, just make a loop can make a 5-ft Yeah, just make a loop can make a 5-ft Yeah, just make a loop and you've got a few inches and you've got a few inches and you've got a few inches of the spare. of the spare. of the spare. >> And I slipped it on her head and >> And I slipped it on her head and >> And I slipped it on her head and >> And he made the sound as he was doing it >> And he made the sound as he was doing it >> And he made the sound as he was doing it and it was quick. and it was quick. and it was quick. >> Too bad, you know. >> Too bad, you know. >> Too bad, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Can you remember her saying anything to >> Can you remember her saying anything to >> Can you remember her saying anything to you during this flight, like uh you during this flight, like uh you during this flight, like uh >> Other than a lot of no more, you know, >> Other than a lot of no more, you know, >> Other than a lot of no more, you know, why you doing that? why you doing that? why you doing that? And I really didn't have an answer for And I really didn't have an answer for And I really didn't have an answer for her other than her other than her other than you know, I'm killing you, you know. you know, I'm killing you, you know. you know, I'm killing you, you know. >> Then, in detail that is hard to stomach, >> Then, in detail that is hard to stomach, >> Then, in detail that is hard to stomach, Gilles casually explains what he did Gilles casually explains what he did Gilles casually explains what he did after the bodies went cold. after the bodies went cold. after the bodies went cold. >> Pretty much brought her brought her back >> Pretty much brought her brought her back >> Pretty much brought her brought her back home from there. home from there. home from there. To my house. To my house. To my house. >> Like a macabre erotic shower with the >> Like a macabre erotic shower with the >> Like a macabre erotic shower with the body of Donna Johnston.

body of Donna Johnston. body of Donna Johnston. >> I held her up, bathed her, held her to >> I held her up, bathed her, held her to >> I held her up, bathed her, held her to me, you know. me, you know. me, you know. >> Bathed her and all her stuff, too? >> Bathed her and all her stuff, too? >> Bathed her and all her stuff, too? >> Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, they were >> Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, they were >> Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, they were taking a shower and all that, you know. taking a shower and all that, you know. taking a shower and all that, you know. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Giving a manicure to the severed hands >> Giving a manicure to the severed hands >> Giving a manicure to the severed hands of Johnny Mae Williams. of Johnny Mae Williams. of Johnny Mae Williams. >> I painted her nails black and >> I painted her nails black and >> I painted her nails black and I think I did though. I think I did though. I think I did though. >> You painted her fingernails and then >> You painted her fingernails and then >> You painted her fingernails and then >> And even more disturbing, >> And even more disturbing, >> And even more disturbing, while his girlfriend Terry is at work, while his girlfriend Terry is at work, while his girlfriend Terry is at work, Gillis performs a deranged autopsy of Gillis performs a deranged autopsy of Gillis performs a deranged autopsy of Joyce Williams right on the kitchen Joyce Williams right on the kitchen Joyce Williams right on the kitchen floor. floor. floor. >> She had beautiful legs. One thing that I >> She had beautiful legs. One thing that I >> She had beautiful legs. One thing that I recalled about her. recalled about her. recalled about her. And And And I wanted to keep those long legs, huh? I I wanted to keep those long legs, huh? I I wanted to keep those long legs, huh? I like a good set of And I'm seeing her like a good set of And I'm seeing her like a good set of And I'm seeing her set of legs. set of legs. set of legs. Looking at it just the curvature of it. Looking at it just the curvature of it. Looking at it just the curvature of it. Beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful. >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> I >> I >> I you know, withstand, notwithstanding it you know, withstand, notwithstanding it you know, withstand, notwithstanding it was cut off of a person. was cut off of a person. was cut off of a person. >> When they sprayed the baseboards of his >> When they sprayed the baseboards of his >> When they sprayed the baseboards of his kitchen with Luminol, uh the baseboards kitchen with Luminol, uh the baseboards kitchen with Luminol, uh the baseboards under the cabinets that it it just lit under the cabinets that it it just lit under the cabinets that it it just lit up like a Christmas tree. up like a Christmas tree. up like a Christmas tree. >> What did he say he did in that kitchen?

>> What did he say he did in that kitchen? >> What did he say he did in that kitchen? >> Said he decapitated her right there. >> Said he decapitated her right there. >> Said he decapitated her right there. >> At that point I'm pretty much moved on >> At that point I'm pretty much moved on >> At that point I'm pretty much moved on to the head. to the head. to the head. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> And that >> And that >> And that >> Using knife >> Using knife >> Using knife >> Using knife, it it went through >> Using knife, it it went through >> Using knife, it it went through >> It went through the throat >> It went through the throat >> It went through the throat like that. It's almost like cutting like that. It's almost like cutting like that. It's almost like cutting butter. butter. butter. >> Gillis's computer delivers even more >> Gillis's computer delivers even more >> Gillis's computer delivers even more evidence of his ghoulish trophy hunting. evidence of his ghoulish trophy hunting. evidence of his ghoulish trophy hunting. >> During the search of his house and his >> During the search of his house and his >> During the search of his house and his computer was seized, he had taken one of computer was seized, he had taken one of computer was seized, he had taken one of his victims out to a dump his victims out to a dump his victims out to a dump and staged his own crime scene. Took and staged his own crime scene. Took and staged his own crime scene. Took pictures of the victim in the trunk of pictures of the victim in the trunk of pictures of the victim in the trunk of his vehicle his vehicle his vehicle and and and he captured the greater portion of his he captured the greater portion of his he captured the greater portion of his license plate in the picture and it was license plate in the picture and it was license plate in the picture and it was still on his computer. still on his computer. still on his computer. >> So you had him again? >> So you had him again? >> So you had him again? >> Again. >> Again. >> Again. >> He was very excited and proud of his >> He was very excited and proud of his >> He was very excited and proud of his behavior. It was all about Shawn and he behavior. It was all about Shawn and he behavior. It was all about Shawn and he completely enjoyed that. completely enjoyed that. completely enjoyed that. >> Criminal profiler Mary Ellen O'Toole is >> Criminal profiler Mary Ellen O'Toole is >> Criminal profiler Mary Ellen O'Toole is face-to-face with Gillis and sees his face-to-face with Gillis and sees his face-to-face with Gillis and sees his secrets go even deeper. The seed of secrets go even deeper. The seed of secrets go even deeper. The seed of Gillis's depravity was planted early.

Gillis's depravity was planted early. Gillis's depravity was planted early. >> One of his paraphilic behaviors was >> One of his paraphilic behaviors was >> One of his paraphilic behaviors was necrophilia and manifested itself before necrophilia and manifested itself before necrophilia and manifested itself before probably before 10. probably before 10. probably before 10. >> Behavior that continued with a sexual >> Behavior that continued with a sexual >> Behavior that continued with a sexual fascination with his mother. fascination with his mother. fascination with his mother. >> Did you ever think about having sex with >> Did you ever think about having sex with >> Did you ever think about having sex with her? her? her? >> Yes, of course. She >> Yes, of course. She >> Yes, of course. She is not an attractive woman. Not In fact, is not an attractive woman. Not In fact, is not an attractive woman. Not In fact, if you see her in a mirror now, I have if you see her in a mirror now, I have if you see her in a mirror now, I have thought if she passed away. You always find me in bed with her. You always find me in bed with her. >> Now with Gillis himself admitting every >> Now with Gillis himself admitting every >> Now with Gillis himself admitting every gruesome detail, this case is locked up. gruesome detail, this case is locked up. gruesome detail, this case is locked up. Or is it? Right from the start, before Or is it? Right from the start, before Or is it? Right from the start, before his confessions even begin, Gillis was his confessions even begin, Gillis was his confessions even begin, Gillis was savvy enough to say this. savvy enough to say this. savvy enough to say this. >> You know, I want to talk to a lawyer. >> You know, I want to talk to a lawyer. >> You know, I want to talk to a lawyer. >> At some point, he realized the >> At some point, he realized the >> At some point, he realized the seriousness and made the comment to the seriousness and made the comment to the seriousness and made the comment to the interrogating [music] officer, interrogating [music] officer, interrogating [music] officer, "You know, I think I should have an "You know, I think I should have an "You know, I think I should have an attorney." attorney." attorney." >> With that comment comes a big problem. >> With that comment comes a big problem. >> With that comment comes a big problem. >> The information that he provided to the >> The information that he provided to the >> The information that he provided to the police after he asked for an attorney, police after he asked for an attorney, >> [music] >> was any of that information permissible >> was any of that information permissible >> was any of that information permissible in court as well?

in court as well? in court as well? >> It was not. >> It was not. >> It was not. >> And that means Shawn Vincent Gillis >> And that means Shawn Vincent Gillis >> And that means Shawn Vincent Gillis might get away with it all. might get away with it all. might get away with it all. The monster has been caged. Shawn The monster has been caged. Shawn The monster has been caged. Shawn Vincent Gillis shackled after confessing Vincent Gillis shackled after confessing Vincent Gillis shackled after confessing to eight of the most [music] grizzly to eight of the most [music] grizzly to eight of the most [music] grizzly murders in Louisiana history. murders in Louisiana history. murders in Louisiana history. But could a calculated risk by But could a calculated risk by But could a calculated risk by detectives end up setting him free? detectives end up setting him free? detectives end up setting him free? >> If he would be willing to tell us some >> If he would be willing to tell us some >> If he would be willing to tell us some information that would absolutely tie information that would absolutely tie information that would absolutely tie him to other homicides, we were him to other homicides, we were him to other homicides, we were certainly willing to listen. certainly willing to listen. certainly willing to listen. >> Here's the problem. During his >> Here's the problem. During his >> Here's the problem. During his interrogation, Gillis did request an interrogation, Gillis did request an interrogation, Gillis did request an attorney. So now his graphic and attorney. So now his graphic and attorney. So now his graphic and gruesome confession describing his gruesome confession describing his gruesome confession describing his thrill kills in sickening detail can't thrill kills in sickening detail can't thrill kills in sickening detail can't be used in court. be used in court. be used in court. >> To be absolutely clear here, you knew >> To be absolutely clear here, you knew >> To be absolutely clear here, you knew you had him on three [music] you had him on three [music] you had him on three [music] murders. murders. murders. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> But cops were sure Gillis had more >> But cops were sure Gillis had more >> But cops were sure Gillis had more victims out there and they were victims out there and they were victims out there and they were desperate to find them. desperate to find them. desperate to find them. >> I wanted the information for them and >> I wanted the information for them and >> I wanted the information for them and for their families. for their families. for their families. >> Correct.

>> Correct. >> Correct. >> Without those videotaped confessions, >> Without those videotaped confessions, >> Without those videotaped confessions, prosecutors [music] prosecutors [music] prosecutors [music] were sweating. Would an admitted serial were sweating. Would an admitted serial were sweating. Would an admitted serial killer slip [music] through their killer slip [music] through their killer slip [music] through their fingers? fingers? fingers? All those fears are put to rest just as All those fears are put to rest just as All those fears are put to rest just as Gillis's trial is set to begin. Gillis's trial is set to begin. Gillis's trial is set to begin. >> I'll never forget this. I was in the >> I'll never forget this. I was in the >> I'll never forget this. I was in the courtroom and one of the female deputies courtroom and one of the female deputies courtroom and one of the female deputies what what what just kind of nudged [music] me after a just kind of nudged [music] me after a just kind of nudged [music] me after a hearing in this case and hands me a hearing in this case and hands me a hearing in this case and hands me a letter from Tammy saying, "I need to letter from Tammy saying, "I need to letter from Tammy saying, "I need to give you these." And they are the give you these." And they are the give you these." And they are the letters put on a silver platter for me. letters put on a silver platter for me. letters put on a silver platter for me. >> Those letters are from [music] Tammy >> Those letters are from [music] Tammy >> Those letters are from [music] Tammy Perpara, a friend of Gillis's final Perpara, a friend of Gillis's final Perpara, a friend of Gillis's final victim, Donna Johnston. Tammy's been victim, Donna Johnston. Tammy's been victim, Donna Johnston. Tammy's been corresponding with Sean Vincent Gillis corresponding with Sean Vincent Gillis corresponding with Sean Vincent Gillis [music] in jail. [music] in jail. [music] in jail. >> And I went bingo. >> And I went bingo. >> And I went bingo. Bingo, that's another nail in his Bingo, that's another nail in his Bingo, that's another nail in his coffin. She said, "I never [music] coffin. She said, "I never [music] coffin. She said, "I never [music] thought he would answer me. Honest to thought he would answer me. Honest to thought he would answer me. Honest to goodness, I never thought he'd be so goodness, I never thought he'd be so goodness, I never thought he'd be so stupid to answer me." stupid to answer me." stupid to answer me." >> But Gillis does answer and within those >> But Gillis does answer and within those >> But Gillis does answer and within those letters, an absolute [music] bombshell, letters, an absolute [music] bombshell, letters, an absolute [music] bombshell, a written confession. Gillis details a written confession. Gillis details a written confession. Gillis details Donna's last moments from the eyes of Donna's last moments from the eyes of Donna's last moments from the eyes of her killer. He writes, "Your friend died her killer. He writes, "Your friend died her killer. He writes, "Your friend died quickly. She was so drunk, it only took quickly. She was so drunk, it only took quickly. She was so drunk, it only took about a minute and a half to succumb to about a minute and a half to succumb to about a minute and a half to succumb to unconsciousness and then death.

unconsciousness and then death. unconsciousness and then death. Honestly, her last [music] words were, Honestly, her last [music] words were, Honestly, her last [music] words were, 'I can't breathe.' Yours, oh so beyond 'I can't breathe.' Yours, oh so beyond 'I can't breathe.' Yours, oh so beyond sorry, Sean Vincent Gillis." sorry, Sean Vincent Gillis." sorry, Sean Vincent Gillis." >> So that letter gave us our first-degree >> So that letter gave us our first-degree >> So that letter gave us our first-degree [music] murder beyond any doubt [music] murder beyond any doubt [music] murder beyond any doubt whatsoever. whatsoever. whatsoever. >> Tammy's letters also give [music] the >> Tammy's letters also give [music] the >> Tammy's letters also give [music] the trial one of its most dramatic moments. trial one of its most dramatic moments. trial one of its most dramatic moments. Prosecutor Prem Burns has the jury stop Prosecutor Prem Burns has the jury stop Prosecutor Prem Burns has the jury stop and watch [music] the clock for 90 and watch [music] the clock for 90 and watch [music] the clock for 90 excruciating seconds. excruciating seconds. excruciating seconds. In the letters Gillis wrote, "That's In the letters Gillis wrote, "That's In the letters Gillis wrote, "That's [music] how long it took Donna Johnston [music] how long it took Donna Johnston [music] how long it took Donna Johnston to die." to die." to die." >> You also said her last words. >> You also said her last words. >> You also said her last words. >> I did. >> I did. >> I did. And it And it was to go, And it And it was to go, And it And it was to go, "I "I "I can't can't can't breathe." She's dead. But to be looking in the She's dead. But to be looking in the eyes of the person that is killing you eyes of the person that is killing you eyes of the person that is killing you is something I have never been [music] is something I have never been [music] is something I have never been [music] able to fathom as a human being or as a able to fathom as a human being or as a able to fathom as a human being or as a district attorney for all the years that district attorney for all the years that district attorney for all the years that I practiced.

I practiced. I practiced. >> Sadly, [music] Tammy Perparo would never >> Sadly, [music] Tammy Perparo would never >> Sadly, [music] Tammy Perparo would never see it played out in court. see it played out in court. see it played out in court. >> Tammy ended up getting >> Tammy ended up getting >> Tammy ended up getting cancer. Tammy died before the trial. She cancer. Tammy died before the trial. She cancer. Tammy died before the trial. She still did it. Even in death, Donna's still did it. Even in death, Donna's still did it. Even in death, Donna's [music] friend came through by just [music] friend came through by just [music] friend came through by just writing those letters to him and getting writing those letters to him and getting writing those letters to him and getting those answers and giving them honestly those answers and giving them honestly those answers and giving them honestly to me and not asking a thing in return. to me and not asking a thing in return. to me and not asking a thing in return. >> With the overwhelming evidence, >> With the overwhelming evidence, >> With the overwhelming evidence, including DNA and now Gillis's own including DNA and now Gillis's own including DNA and now Gillis's own self-incriminating letters, the verdict self-incriminating letters, the verdict self-incriminating letters, the verdict is undeniable. is undeniable. is undeniable. Guilty of first-degree murder and Guilty of first-degree murder and Guilty of first-degree murder and sentenced to three life terms. sentenced to three life terms. sentenced to three life terms. >> I think if Shawn had not been >> I think if Shawn had not been >> I think if Shawn had not been apprehended, he would have continued to apprehended, he would have continued to apprehended, he would have continued to kill. >> At Gillis's house in a quiet >> At Gillis's house in a quiet neighborhood, a magnolia tree blooms in neighborhood, a magnolia tree blooms in neighborhood, a magnolia tree blooms in the front yard. Inside is where some of the front yard. Inside is where some of the front yard. Inside is where some of the most unspeakable acts played out on the most unspeakable acts played out on the most unspeakable acts played out on a kitchen floor.

>> So, he totally decapitated her. >> So, he totally decapitated her. Pretty good. >> This kitchen floor. Believe it or not, >> This kitchen floor. Believe it or not, Gillis's girlfriend, Terri LeMoyne, Gillis's girlfriend, Terri LeMoyne, Gillis's girlfriend, Terri LeMoyne, still lives here. still lives here. still lives here. >> The police told me that he had >> The police told me that he had >> The police told me that he had one of his victims in the kitchen. one of his victims in the kitchen. one of his victims in the kitchen. >> We're sitting in the kitchen. >> We're sitting in the kitchen. >> We're sitting in the kitchen. >> That is correct. >> Where was the the spot? Was it literally >> Where was the the spot? Was it literally right here and right here and right here and >> Literally right there. >> Literally right there. >> Literally right there. I would say in those four four squares I would say in those four four squares I would say in those four four squares right there. right there. right there. >> Do you ever have feelings when you're >> Do you ever have feelings when you're >> Do you ever have feelings when you're standing here at the kitchen sink and standing here at the kitchen sink and standing here at the kitchen sink and think back to the horrible things that think back to the horrible things that think back to the horrible things that happened here? happened here? happened here? >> No. That's That would be like thinking >> No. That's That would be like thinking >> No. That's That would be like thinking of uh I can't live on this piece of of uh I can't live on this piece of of uh I can't live on this piece of property because there was a war here. property because there was a war here. property because there was a war here. It's a building. It's a building. It's a building. That's the way I look at it. That's the way I look at it. That's the way I look at it. >> And the memories of madness aren't >> And the memories of madness aren't >> And the memories of madness aren't confined to the house. Gillis's confined to the house. Gillis's confined to the house. Gillis's blood-soaked car, Gillis nicknamed Buffy blood-soaked car, Gillis nicknamed Buffy blood-soaked car, Gillis nicknamed Buffy after the TV show Buffy the Vampire after the TV show Buffy the Vampire after the TV show Buffy the Vampire Slayer, still sits rotting in Terry's Slayer, still sits rotting in Terry's Slayer, still sits rotting in Terry's backyard.

backyard. backyard. >> You bought this car for Shawn. >> You bought this car for Shawn. >> You bought this car for Shawn. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> And >> And >> And what did he end up doing with it? >> Hunting >> Hunting for women to kill and transporting dead for women to kill and transporting dead for women to kill and transporting dead bodies. bodies. bodies. >> Do you think you're going to end up >> Do you think you're going to end up >> Do you think you're going to end up selling this to someone who has like a selling this to someone who has like a selling this to someone who has like a morbid collection of things having to do morbid collection of things having to do morbid collection of things having to do with serial killers? with serial killers? with serial killers? >> I have no idea. I've thought of donating >> I have no idea. I've thought of donating >> I have no idea. I've thought of donating the thing. The company that I bought it the thing. The company that I bought it the thing. The company that I bought it from, they didn't want it back because from, they didn't want it back because from, they didn't want it back because they said it was a biohazard. they said it was a biohazard. they said it was a biohazard. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> And >> And >> And I've never bothered myself with it, I've never bothered myself with it, I've never bothered myself with it, actually. actually. actually. >> You still live in the house and you >> You still live in the house and you >> You still live in the house and you still have the car. Why? still have the car. Why? still have the car. Why? >> The house didn't do anything wrong. >> The house didn't do anything wrong. >> The house didn't do anything wrong. I mean, what was left of what he did has I mean, what was left of what he did has I mean, what was left of what he did has been disposed of. It's been taken away. been disposed of. It's been taken away. been disposed of. It's been taken away. >> So, you don't feel a bad or negative >> So, you don't feel a bad or negative >> So, you don't feel a bad or negative energy in this house? energy in this house? energy in this house? >> No. >> No. >> No. Too too much good has happened since.

Too too much good has happened since. Too too much good has happened since. >> After >> After >> After he went he went he went to jail, to jail, to jail, what did you do? what did you do? what did you do? >> I redid the floors >> I redid the floors >> I redid the floors and redid some of the walls. and redid some of the walls. and redid some of the walls. >> Prosecutor Prem Burns says all the >> Prosecutor Prem Burns says all the >> Prosecutor Prem Burns says all the remodeling in the world will never erase remodeling in the world will never erase remodeling in the world will never erase the horror that Sean Vincent Gillis the horror that Sean Vincent Gillis the horror that Sean Vincent Gillis inflicted on eight [music] innocent inflicted on eight [music] innocent inflicted on eight [music] innocent people, their families, and the city of people, their families, and the city of people, their families, and the city of Baton Rouge. Baton Rouge. Baton Rouge. >> This was like a walking piece of evil, >> This was like a walking piece of evil, >> This was like a walking piece of evil, hunting and praying after other [music] hunting and praying after other [music] hunting and praying after other [music] human beings. Those women had more life human beings. Those women had more life human beings. Those women had more life and more worth in them and more worth in them and more worth in them than he will ever have than he will ever have than he will ever have if he lives to be [music] 100 years.