They lured him in. Then the Nightmare started.

Growing up in an upscale suburb of Growing up in an upscale suburb of Chicago, Nicholas Kas was the Chicago, Nicholas Kas was the Chicago, Nicholas Kas was the all-American high school kid. all-American high school kid. all-American high school kid. >> What's your family like? What was it >> What's your family like? What was it >> What's your family like? What was it like growing up? like growing up? like growing up? >> One of four boys, you know, just a >> One of four boys, you know, just a >> One of four boys, you know, just a really close-knit family, very caring really close-knit family, very caring really close-knit family, very caring parents. And for me, I playing sports parents. And for me, I playing sports parents. And for me, I playing sports and especially football was a huge and especially football was a huge and especially football was a huge aspect to my life. I always wanted to aspect to my life. I always wanted to aspect to my life. I always wanted to continue playing football in college. continue playing football in college. continue playing football in college. >> You were the first one in your family to >> You were the first one in your family to >> You were the first one in your family to go to college, right? Oh yeah, I was the go to college, right? Oh yeah, I was the go to college, right? Oh yeah, I was the first one out of my direct family to go first one out of my direct family to go first one out of my direct family to go to college. to college. to college. >> His grid iron goal would become a >> His grid iron goal would become a >> His grid iron goal would become a reality at the University of Rochester. reality at the University of Rochester. reality at the University of Rochester. >> You must have been so excited when you >> You must have been so excited when you >> You must have been so excited when you got on the football team. got on the football team. got on the football team. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> What were the team dynamics like? >> What were the team dynamics like? >> What were the team dynamics like? >> Very small school, private university, >> Very small school, private university, >> Very small school, private university, um only 8,000 undergrad and so the um only 8,000 undergrad and so the um only 8,000 undergrad and so the football team was extremely close. football team was extremely close. football team was extremely close. >> But Nicholas wasn't all tackles and >> But Nicholas wasn't all tackles and >> But Nicholas wasn't all tackles and touchdowns. I'm also a classical pianist.

I'm also a classical pianist. >> You're quite accomplished. >> You're quite accomplished. >> You're quite accomplished. >> Thank you. Yeah. >> Thank you. Yeah. >> Thank you. Yeah. >> Senior year and fall semester at the >> Senior year and fall semester at the >> Senior year and fall semester at the University of Rochester is in full University of Rochester is in full University of Rochester is in full swing, but this Friday night out would swing, but this Friday night out would swing, but this Friday night out would be like no other. be like no other. be like no other. >> So, December 4th, what was that day >> So, December 4th, what was that day >> So, December 4th, what was that day like? like? like? >> So, it was just kind of like any other >> So, it was just kind of like any other >> So, it was just kind of like any other day. Nicholas and his fellow teammate day. Nicholas and his fellow teammate day. Nicholas and his fellow teammate and fraternity brother Ani O'iki Ew are and fraternity brother Ani O'iki Ew are and fraternity brother Ani O'iki Ew are hanging out when Anie gets messaged on hanging out when Anie gets messaged on hanging out when Anie gets messaged on social media. social media. social media. >> And Anie kind of looked over to me and >> And Anie kind of looked over to me and >> And Anie kind of looked over to me and he was like, "Hey, I have these two he was like, "Hey, I have these two he was like, "Hey, I have these two girls who want to hang out." So said, girls who want to hang out." So said, girls who want to hang out." So said, "Sure, why don't you have the two girls "Sure, why don't you have the two girls "Sure, why don't you have the two girls come over to my apartment and we can come over to my apartment and we can come over to my apartment and we can hang out with them there?" So Anie took hang out with them there?" So Anie took hang out with them there?" So Anie took a quick picture of me and sent it to a quick picture of me and sent it to a quick picture of me and sent it to them. them. them. >> The girls must have liked what they saw. >> The girls must have liked what they saw. >> The girls must have liked what they saw. Not long after, Nicholas and Anie meet Not long after, Nicholas and Anie meet Not long after, Nicholas and Anie meet them in the parking lot of Nicholas's them in the parking lot of Nicholas's them in the parking lot of Nicholas's apartment. apartment. apartment. >> They didn't want to go in my apartment >> They didn't want to go in my apartment >> They didn't want to go in my apartment and they suggested that we go over to and they suggested that we go over to and they suggested that we go over to their place. their place. their place. >> Were there any like red flags for you at >> Were there any like red flags for you at >> Were there any like red flags for you at this time? Like talking to them, did this time? Like talking to them, did this time? Like talking to them, did anything seem like anything seem like anything seem like >> strange about them?

>> strange about them? >> strange about them? >> They were in a nice car. Nothing seemed >> They were in a nice car. Nothing seemed >> They were in a nice car. Nothing seemed unusual or abnormal. unusual or abnormal. unusual or abnormal. >> The students jump in the girl's car and >> The students jump in the girl's car and >> The students jump in the girl's car and off they go. But soon, the changing off they go. But soon, the changing off they go. But soon, the changing scenery catches Nicholas's attention. scenery catches Nicholas's attention. scenery catches Nicholas's attention. >> I started to notice that the >> I started to notice that the >> I started to notice that the neighborhood was not so good anymore. neighborhood was not so good anymore. neighborhood was not so good anymore. Then before I knew it, we showed up at Then before I knew it, we showed up at Then before I knew it, we showed up at the house. the house. the house. >> The address 22 Harvest Street. >> The address 22 Harvest Street. >> The address 22 Harvest Street. >> It was dark out and from the outside it >> It was dark out and from the outside it >> It was dark out and from the outside it seemed like a decent house. seemed like a decent house. seemed like a decent house. >> A decent house and pretty girls. The >> A decent house and pretty girls. The >> A decent house and pretty girls. The night ahead was looking good. But once night ahead was looking good. But once night ahead was looking good. But once inside, that all changed. inside, that all changed. inside, that all changed. >> The next 40 hours had to be the most >> The next 40 hours had to be the most >> The next 40 hours had to be the most terrifying, horrific of your entire terrifying, horrific of your entire terrifying, horrific of your entire life. I remember physically feeling sick life. I remember physically feeling sick life. I remember physically feeling sick uh reading about what happened. uh reading about what happened. uh reading about what happened. >> Yeah. I sat down on this couch in the >> Yeah. I sat down on this couch in the >> Yeah. I sat down on this couch in the living room and next thing I knew is living room and next thing I knew is living room and next thing I knew is just the lights went out and about five just the lights went out and about five just the lights went out and about five to 10 men and just masks come out just to 10 men and just masks come out just to 10 men and just masks come out just screaming. So many loud noises and just screaming. So many loud noises and just screaming. So many loud noises and just are all armed with bats and bars and are all armed with bats and bars and are all armed with bats and bars and knives, guns, and the first thing that knives, guns, and the first thing that knives, guns, and the first thing that just pops in. I mean, fight or flight. I just pops in. I mean, fight or flight. I just pops in. I mean, fight or flight. I got up as fast as I could and tried got up as fast as I could and tried got up as fast as I could and tried running to the side door. I only made it running to the side door. I only made it running to the side door. I only made it about halfway across the room before I about halfway across the room before I about halfway across the room before I felt something like being pressed up to felt something like being pressed up to felt something like being pressed up to the side of my upper leg. And then the

the side of my upper leg. And then the the side of my upper leg. And then the next thing I remember is just being on next thing I remember is just being on next thing I remember is just being on the ground. the ground. the ground. >> Nicholas had been shot in the leg. >> Nicholas had been shot in the leg. >> Nicholas had been shot in the leg. >> My leg was like gel. It was just >> My leg was like gel. It was just >> My leg was like gel. It was just flopping around. And somehow I managed flopping around. And somehow I managed flopping around. And somehow I managed to get back to my feet and get to the to get back to my feet and get to the to get back to my feet and get to the door. door. door. >> He may have made it there, but he wasn't >> He may have made it there, but he wasn't >> He may have made it there, but he wasn't home free. And I remember looking out home free. And I remember looking out home free. And I remember looking out the door and seeing these two other the door and seeing these two other the door and seeing these two other girls that were standing on the outside girls that were standing on the outside girls that were standing on the outside and they were holding the door closed and they were holding the door closed and they were holding the door closed from the outside just making sure we from the outside just making sure we from the outside just making sure we couldn't escape. couldn't escape. couldn't escape. >> So the two girls that like said come >> So the two girls that like said come >> So the two girls that like said come hang out with us. They were the ones hang out with us. They were the ones hang out with us. They were the ones holding the door shut or it was two holding the door shut or it was two holding the door shut or it was two different ones. different ones. different ones. >> Two different girls. >> Two different girls. >> Two different girls. >> What had seemed like an innocent college >> What had seemed like an innocent college >> What had seemed like an innocent college date night was suddenly looking like a date night was suddenly looking like a date night was suddenly looking like a vicious setup. But why? now injured and vicious setup. But why? now injured and vicious setup. But why? now injured and delirious. delirious. delirious. >> Was nothing I could do. And then I just >> Was nothing I could do. And then I just >> Was nothing I could do. And then I just remember getting hit over the head with remember getting hit over the head with remember getting hit over the head with a bat and I'm laying on the ground. a bat and I'm laying on the ground. a bat and I'm laying on the ground. These men are just screaming, "Just These men are just screaming, "Just These men are just screaming, "Just don't fight us. Just take it and don't don't fight us. Just take it and don't don't fight us. Just take it and don't try and escape."

try and escape." try and escape." >> It's Friday night. University of >> It's Friday night. University of >> It's Friday night. University of Rochester football players Nicholas Kas Rochester football players Nicholas Kas Rochester football players Nicholas Kas and Anio Kiwu are excited to hang out and Anio Kiwu are excited to hang out and Anio Kiwu are excited to hang out with a couple of girls they met on with a couple of girls they met on with a couple of girls they met on Facebook. Facebook. Facebook. The women take the students to 22 The women take the students to 22 The women take the students to 22 Harvest Street, but it won't be the kind Harvest Street, but it won't be the kind Harvest Street, but it won't be the kind of hookup the boys are expecting. It's a of hookup the boys are expecting. It's a of hookup the boys are expecting. It's a setup. setup. setup. >> I was just like freaking out and I >> I was just like freaking out and I >> I was just like freaking out and I didn't know what was going on. didn't know what was going on. didn't know what was going on. >> Multiple men wearing masks jump out and >> Multiple men wearing masks jump out and >> Multiple men wearing masks jump out and attack the students. Nicholas is shot in attack the students. Nicholas is shot in attack the students. Nicholas is shot in the leg and hit over the head with a the leg and hit over the head with a the leg and hit over the head with a bat. bat. bat. >> How did you not pass out from the pain? >> How did you not pass out from the pain? >> How did you not pass out from the pain? >> I don't know. It's only the beginning of >> I don't know. It's only the beginning of >> I don't know. It's only the beginning of a 40hour nightmare. a 40hour nightmare. a 40hour nightmare. >> They tied up our hands and legs and >> They tied up our hands and legs and >> They tied up our hands and legs and dragged Anie and I into this bathroom. dragged Anie and I into this bathroom. dragged Anie and I into this bathroom. >> Nicholas is beaten with a hedge trimmer, >> Nicholas is beaten with a hedge trimmer, >> Nicholas is beaten with a hedge trimmer, a bat, a pipe, then hit over the head a bat, a pipe, then hit over the head a bat, a pipe, then hit over the head again, this time with a fluorescent again, this time with a fluorescent again, this time with a fluorescent bull. bull. bull. >> I just remember like touching my head >> I just remember like touching my head >> I just remember like touching my head and having all this blood just coming and having all this blood just coming and having all this blood just coming down everywhere. They were having so down everywhere. They were having so down everywhere. They were having so much enjoyment with it that they started much enjoyment with it that they started much enjoyment with it that they started recording it.

recording it. recording it. >> A warning, the video you're about to see >> A warning, the video you're about to see >> A warning, the video you're about to see is graphic. While one of the kidnappers is graphic. While one of the kidnappers is graphic. While one of the kidnappers records, two of the others are seen records, two of the others are seen records, two of the others are seen threatening Anie with a hedge trimmer threatening Anie with a hedge trimmer threatening Anie with a hedge trimmer and then proddding Nicholas lying on the and then proddding Nicholas lying on the and then proddding Nicholas lying on the floor covered in blood. floor covered in blood. floor covered in blood. After hours of torture, the mask men After hours of torture, the mask men After hours of torture, the mask men leave. Both students, but especially leave. Both students, but especially leave. Both students, but especially Nicholas, are in bad shape. And it's not Nicholas, are in bad shape. And it's not Nicholas, are in bad shape. And it's not over. The monsters returned early the over. The monsters returned early the over. The monsters returned early the next morning for more. next morning for more. next morning for more. >> They were extremely organized. They had >> They were extremely organized. They had >> They were extremely organized. They had nicknames. They had rolls for nicknames. They had rolls for nicknames. They had rolls for individuals. They take our wallet and individuals. They take our wallet and individuals. They take our wallet and everything from me. My keys, my phone, everything from me. My keys, my phone, everything from me. My keys, my phone, my wallet. my wallet. my wallet. >> The captors put Anie in the bedroom. >> The captors put Anie in the bedroom. >> The captors put Anie in the bedroom. They keep Nicholas in the bathroom. They keep Nicholas in the bathroom. They keep Nicholas in the bathroom. >> They put me into this shower where they >> They put me into this shower where they >> They put me into this shower where they started washing me. The entire tub is started washing me. The entire tub is started washing me. The entire tub is just red. just red. just red. Turns out Nicholas hadn't been shot Turns out Nicholas hadn't been shot Turns out Nicholas hadn't been shot once, he'd been shot twice. once, he'd been shot twice. once, he'd been shot twice. >> I was shot in my other leg as well. >> I was shot in my other leg as well. >> I was shot in my other leg as well. >> Did you feel I mean, they're washing >> Did you feel I mean, they're washing >> Did you feel I mean, they're washing you? Like, were they going to let you go you? Like, were they going to let you go you? Like, were they going to let you go at that point?

at that point? at that point? >> Honestly, while they were bathing me, >> Honestly, while they were bathing me, >> Honestly, while they were bathing me, they had other individuals who were they had other individuals who were they had other individuals who were cleaning the house and bleaching cleaning the house and bleaching cleaning the house and bleaching everything down. So, it was almost as if everything down. So, it was almost as if everything down. So, it was almost as if they were like trying to cover their they were like trying to cover their they were like trying to cover their tracks. tracks. tracks. >> The plan is to not let them go. >> The plan is to not let them go. >> The plan is to not let them go. >> How did you keep going? >> How did you keep going? >> How did you keep going? I don't know. I thought about my parents I don't know. I thought about my parents I don't know. I thought about my parents and I how much I mean to them and how and I how much I mean to them and how and I how much I mean to them and how much they mean to me and I didn't want much they mean to me and I didn't want much they mean to me and I didn't want this to be the end. And this to be the end. And this to be the end. And >> that's what it was for me as well. The >> that's what it was for me as well. The >> that's what it was for me as well. The fact that my parents would always love fact that my parents would always love fact that my parents would always love me and for me that was worth surviving me and for me that was worth surviving me and for me that was worth surviving for. So that's how I was able to make for. So that's how I was able to make for. So that's how I was able to make the decision that I would do whatever it the decision that I would do whatever it the decision that I would do whatever it took to survive. It didn't matter what took to survive. It didn't matter what took to survive. It didn't matter what it was. Now in the bedroom with Anie, it was. Now in the bedroom with Anie, it was. Now in the bedroom with Anie, survive is what Nicholas is desperately survive is what Nicholas is desperately survive is what Nicholas is desperately trying to do. trying to do. trying to do. >> That's when these individuals were >> That's when these individuals were >> That's when these individuals were holding me at gunpoint and they were holding me at gunpoint and they were holding me at gunpoint and they were making me call all these different making me call all these different making me call all these different financial institutions to get my financial institutions to get my financial institutions to get my withdrawal limits increased and doing withdrawal limits increased and doing withdrawal limits increased and doing whatever they could to get money out of whatever they could to get money out of whatever they could to get money out of my accounts.

my accounts. my accounts. >> But is all this really just about money? >> But is all this really just about money? >> But is all this really just about money? While the football players are While the football players are While the football players are negotiating for their lives, their negotiating for their lives, their negotiating for their lives, their absence is not going unnoticed. Friends absence is not going unnoticed. Friends absence is not going unnoticed. Friends and family contact the University of and family contact the University of and family contact the University of Rochester Public Safety Department, Rochester Public Safety Department, Rochester Public Safety Department, which alerts Rochester PD. which alerts Rochester PD. which alerts Rochester PD. >> As we started to put all this whole >> As we started to put all this whole >> As we started to put all this whole story together, we realized something story together, we realized something story together, we realized something really was uh not right. First of all, really was uh not right. First of all, really was uh not right. First of all, their phones were both phones were their phones were both phones were their phones were both phones were turned off. The second thing was these turned off. The second thing was these turned off. The second thing was these uh both gentlemen were uh prolific on uh uh both gentlemen were uh prolific on uh uh both gentlemen were uh prolific on uh social media, always updating what they social media, always updating what they social media, always updating what they were doing, where they were, and that were doing, where they were, and that were doing, where they were, and that had stopped cold Friday night. Also, the had stopped cold Friday night. Also, the had stopped cold Friday night. Also, the fact that they were had been out of fact that they were had been out of fact that they were had been out of contact with everybody else. contact with everybody else. contact with everybody else. >> Rochester police launched a full >> Rochester police launched a full >> Rochester police launched a full investigation, getting search warrants investigation, getting search warrants investigation, getting search warrants for the boy's phones and Facebook for the boy's phones and Facebook for the boy's phones and Facebook accounts, accounts, accounts, >> trying to track down uh the two women >> trying to track down uh the two women >> trying to track down uh the two women that they had met up with. that they had met up with. that they had met up with. >> Find the girls and maybe find the boys. >> Find the girls and maybe find the boys. >> Find the girls and maybe find the boys. While cops are quickly working to While cops are quickly working to While cops are quickly working to identify who these two women are, identify who these two women are, identify who these two women are, Nicholas and Anie are coming to grips Nicholas and Anie are coming to grips Nicholas and Anie are coming to grips with the reality that there's no way with the reality that there's no way with the reality that there's no way out. They're trapped.

out. They're trapped. out. They're trapped. >> Were you and Anie ever left alone or was >> Were you and Anie ever left alone or was >> Were you and Anie ever left alone or was there always someone there watching you? there always someone there watching you? there always someone there watching you? >> There was always someone, at least one >> There was always someone, at least one >> There was always someone, at least one or two individuals that were kind of or two individuals that were kind of or two individuals that were kind of watching over us. watching over us. watching over us. >> And so during that time, you guys didn't >> And so during that time, you guys didn't >> And so during that time, you guys didn't have a chance to be like, "What are we have a chance to be like, "What are we have a chance to be like, "What are we going to do? How are we going to get going to do? How are we going to get going to do? How are we going to get away?" or anything like that. away?" or anything like that. away?" or anything like that. >> Yeah, not really. I mean, obviously he >> Yeah, not really. I mean, obviously he >> Yeah, not really. I mean, obviously he was in better shape than I was. He was in better shape than I was. He was in better shape than I was. He wasn't shot. wasn't shot. wasn't shot. >> Did he seem scared? >> Did he seem scared? >> Did he seem scared? >> Yeah. I mean, he was scared, but >> Yeah. I mean, he was scared, but >> Yeah. I mean, he was scared, but throughout the whole ordeal, he kind of throughout the whole ordeal, he kind of throughout the whole ordeal, he kind of had this like optimistic view. They're had this like optimistic view. They're had this like optimistic view. They're going to release us, but it was hard for going to release us, but it was hard for going to release us, but it was hard for me to kind of see that light. It only me to kind of see that light. It only me to kind of see that light. It only got worse as time went on. got worse as time went on. got worse as time went on. >> So much worse. I I want to ask you a >> So much worse. I I want to ask you a >> So much worse. I I want to ask you a question and if you don't want to answer question and if you don't want to answer question and if you don't want to answer it that's okay because it is so it that's okay because it is so it that's okay because it is so terrifying coming forward and because terrifying coming forward and because terrifying coming forward and because there are so many prejudices stereotypes there are so many prejudices stereotypes there are so many prejudices stereotypes misunderstandings misunderstandings misunderstandings around this whole topic and and around this whole topic and and around this whole topic and and especially for men but were you ever especially for men but were you ever especially for men but were you ever sexually abused while you were held sexually abused while you were held sexually abused while you were held captive? Yeah, during the events that captive? Yeah, during the events that captive? Yeah, during the events that took place at one point these took place at one point these took place at one point these these individuals forced me to kind of these individuals forced me to kind of these individuals forced me to kind of do things and it was just terrible and do things and it was just terrible and do things and it was just terrible and yeah, it happened and it's it's the yeah, it happened and it's it's the yeah, it happened and it's it's the worst feeling ever.

worst feeling ever. worst feeling ever. >> University of Rochester public safety >> University of Rochester public safety >> University of Rochester public safety officers and Rochester PD now know the officers and Rochester PD now know the officers and Rochester PD now know the clock is ticking. They soon catch a clock is ticking. They soon catch a clock is ticking. They soon catch a break when they track down the girl who break when they track down the girl who break when they track down the girl who messaged Anie. Her name is Samantha messaged Anie. Her name is Samantha messaged Anie. Her name is Samantha Hughes. She was less than helpful. Hughes. She was less than helpful. Hughes. She was less than helpful. >> She was trying to give us the runaround. >> She was trying to give us the runaround. >> She was trying to give us the runaround. She had to go to work. So, she said, She had to go to work. So, she said, She had to go to work. So, she said, "Can I meet up with you tomorrow and we "Can I meet up with you tomorrow and we "Can I meet up with you tomorrow and we can finish this at that point? She can finish this at that point? She can finish this at that point? She really wasn't free to leave." really wasn't free to leave." really wasn't free to leave." >> Then they find the second girl, Leah >> Then they find the second girl, Leah >> Then they find the second girl, Leah Gilliotti. Neither are making it easy Gilliotti. Neither are making it easy Gilliotti. Neither are making it easy for investigators. for investigators. for investigators. >> It was exhausting. So, they'd give us a >> It was exhausting. So, they'd give us a >> It was exhausting. So, they'd give us a little bit of a lead. We'd be able to little bit of a lead. We'd be able to little bit of a lead. We'd be able to follow up on that. uh we'd wind up in follow up on that. uh we'd wind up in follow up on that. uh we'd wind up in the dead end. We'd have to come back and the dead end. We'd have to come back and the dead end. We'd have to come back and get more information. get more information. get more information. >> Then a chilling admission. >> Then a chilling admission. >> Then a chilling admission. >> They said, "Don't worry, they're not >> They said, "Don't worry, they're not >> They said, "Don't worry, they're not going to be hurt." And a normal person going to be hurt." And a normal person going to be hurt." And a normal person that you meet up with is not going to that you meet up with is not going to that you meet up with is not going to tell that to the police. So, we knew tell that to the police. So, we knew tell that to the police. So, we knew that it wasn't uh wasn't normal. that it wasn't uh wasn't normal. that it wasn't uh wasn't normal. >> The ones who lured the football players >> The ones who lured the football players >> The ones who lured the football players into the sadistic trap give up even into the sadistic trap give up even into the sadistic trap give up even more. After about six hours, we were more. After about six hours, we were more. After about six hours, we were able to get a couple of good locations able to get a couple of good locations able to get a couple of good locations where um these girls u last saw uh Nico where um these girls u last saw uh Nico where um these girls u last saw uh Nico and and and >> are they getting closer to finding the >> are they getting closer to finding the >> are they getting closer to finding the boys? Undercover officers monitor the boys? Undercover officers monitor the boys? Undercover officers monitor the two locations. Then Rochester Deputy two locations. Then Rochester Deputy two locations. Then Rochester Deputy Police Chief Scott Peters puts together Police Chief Scott Peters puts together Police Chief Scott Peters puts together a plan with a SWAT commander.

a plan with a SWAT commander. a plan with a SWAT commander. >> This is going to be a hostage rescue. I >> This is going to be a hostage rescue. I >> This is going to be a hostage rescue. I said, "Here's the two locations. Plan said, "Here's the two locations. Plan said, "Here's the two locations. Plan cold hits on both houses. You're going cold hits on both houses. You're going cold hits on both houses. You're going to do one and then we're gonna have to to do one and then we're gonna have to to do one and then we're gonna have to do the second one if the the first house do the second one if the the first house do the second one if the the first house wasn't right. wasn't right. wasn't right. >> Getting it right the first time could be >> Getting it right the first time could be >> Getting it right the first time could be the difference between life and death. the difference between life and death. the difference between life and death. It's now Sunday morning at 22 Harvest It's now Sunday morning at 22 Harvest It's now Sunday morning at 22 Harvest Street, more than 30 hours in. Street, more than 30 hours in. Street, more than 30 hours in. >> While you were being held captive, was >> While you were being held captive, was >> While you were being held captive, was there ever a moment that you felt like there ever a moment that you felt like there ever a moment that you felt like you were going to give up? you were going to give up? you were going to give up? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Things have reached a fevered pitch. >> Things have reached a fevered pitch. >> Things have reached a fevered pitch. They came into the room with their masks They came into the room with their masks They came into the room with their masks on and guns and weapons and they started on and guns and weapons and they started on and guns and weapons and they started saying that that I was lying to them and saying that that I was lying to them and saying that that I was lying to them and that my cards weren't working anymore that my cards weren't working anymore that my cards weren't working anymore and that they said that they were going and that they said that they were going and that they said that they were going to kill us. to kill us. to kill us. >> Nicholas says the kidnappers turn on >> Nicholas says the kidnappers turn on >> Nicholas says the kidnappers turn on some loud music to cover the sounds of some loud music to cover the sounds of some loud music to cover the sounds of what's to come. what's to come. what's to come. They were just spraying bullets They were just spraying bullets They were just spraying bullets everywhere and they were putting the gun everywhere and they were putting the gun everywhere and they were putting the gun down our throat and putting the gun to down our throat and putting the gun to down our throat and putting the gun to our body and just moving it at the last our body and just moving it at the last our body and just moving it at the last second and I was holding on his hand and second and I was holding on his hand and second and I was holding on his hand and I just knew that like one of these I just knew that like one of these I just knew that like one of these bullets were going to hit me and I was bullets were going to hit me and I was bullets were going to hit me and I was going to die.

going to die. going to die. >> It's now Sunday night 900 p.m. Almost 40 >> It's now Sunday night 900 p.m. Almost 40 >> It's now Sunday night 900 p.m. Almost 40 hours into this kidnapping nightmare. My hours into this kidnapping nightmare. My hours into this kidnapping nightmare. My body was in such bad shape and you know body was in such bad shape and you know body was in such bad shape and you know I was just kind of feeling worse and I was just kind of feeling worse and I was just kind of feeling worse and just not optimistic at all that we would just not optimistic at all that we would just not optimistic at all that we would be found. be found. be found. >> What Nicholas Kas doesn't know is that >> What Nicholas Kas doesn't know is that >> What Nicholas Kas doesn't know is that the calvary is on the way. Remember the calvary is on the way. Remember the calvary is on the way. Remember Hughes and Gileadi, the girls who lured Hughes and Gileadi, the girls who lured Hughes and Gileadi, the girls who lured the football players to that house of the football players to that house of the football players to that house of horrors? They eventually gave police two horrors? They eventually gave police two horrors? They eventually gave police two addresses. A SWAT team is now ready to addresses. A SWAT team is now ready to addresses. A SWAT team is now ready to hit the first 22 Harvest Street. Not hit the first 22 Harvest Street. Not hit the first 22 Harvest Street. Not even knowing if it's the right house, even knowing if it's the right house, even knowing if it's the right house, they roll up. they roll up. they roll up. >> It was eerily silent. >> It was eerily silent. >> It was eerily silent. >> Then out of the darkness appears a >> Then out of the darkness appears a >> Then out of the darkness appears a figure. Someone from inside comes out figure. Someone from inside comes out figure. Someone from inside comes out and sees the swarm of a heavily armed and sees the swarm of a heavily armed and sees the swarm of a heavily armed SWAT team. SWAT team. SWAT team. >> Very quickly, he ran back inside and >> Very quickly, he ran back inside and >> Very quickly, he ran back inside and shut the door. shut the door. shut the door. The individual who was nicknamed the The individual who was nicknamed the The individual who was nicknamed the caretaker came into the room and and caretaker came into the room and and caretaker came into the room and and this was the only time I actually saw this was the only time I actually saw this was the only time I actually saw any of the individuals faces without a any of the individuals faces without a any of the individuals faces without a mask on. He was like trying to untie us mask on. He was like trying to untie us mask on. He was like trying to untie us real fast.

real fast. real fast. >> Outside the SWAT team sets explosive >> Outside the SWAT team sets explosive >> Outside the SWAT team sets explosive charges on two doors. They call breach. charges on two doors. They call breach. charges on two doors. They call breach. Then Then Then >> both explosive charges go off. The house >> both explosive charges go off. The house >> both explosive charges go off. The house just lit up. just lit up. just lit up. >> The door gets blown inside. >> The door gets blown inside. >> The door gets blown inside. >> I didn't know what was going on. >> I didn't know what was going on. >> I didn't know what was going on. >> As the doorway opens up, one person to >> As the doorway opens up, one person to >> As the doorway opens up, one person to go left, another person will go right. go left, another person will go right. go left, another person will go right. >> Upon entry, the SWAT team sees two >> Upon entry, the SWAT team sees two >> Upon entry, the SWAT team sees two individuals. individuals. individuals. >> There was a two suspects inside the >> There was a two suspects inside the >> There was a two suspects inside the living room. Took them in custody. living room. Took them in custody. living room. Took them in custody. >> Cops still aren't sure they're in the >> Cops still aren't sure they're in the >> Cops still aren't sure they're in the hostage house. They make their way hostage house. They make their way hostage house. They make their way through the kitchen. Then they see a through the kitchen. Then they see a through the kitchen. Then they see a closed door. As they go through the closed door. As they go through the closed door. As they go through the door, they look in there and sure door, they look in there and sure door, they look in there and sure enough, there's the uh the two football enough, there's the uh the two football enough, there's the uh the two football players are sitting on the floor. There players are sitting on the floor. There players are sitting on the floor. There was remnants of tape around their ankles was remnants of tape around their ankles was remnants of tape around their ankles and hands. Uh they just looked like they and hands. Uh they just looked like they and hands. Uh they just looked like they had been through hell. had been through hell. had been through hell. >> I thought the house was being burned >> I thought the house was being burned >> I thought the house was being burned down. In reality, they were saving my down. In reality, they were saving my down. In reality, they were saving my life. life. life. >> We rolled the dice and the first house >> We rolled the dice and the first house >> We rolled the dice and the first house we hit was the correct one. This is a we hit was the correct one. This is a we hit was the correct one. This is a once in a career rescue.

once in a career rescue. once in a career rescue. >> Do you remember when they came into the >> Do you remember when they came into the >> Do you remember when they came into the room? At first, I was kind of scared room? At first, I was kind of scared room? At first, I was kind of scared because it was more individuals just because it was more individuals just because it was more individuals just covered in body armor and these huge covered in body armor and these huge covered in body armor and these huge guns and I was just terrified. guns and I was just terrified. guns and I was just terrified. >> I'd be pretty scared, too. >> I'd be pretty scared, too. >> I'd be pretty scared, too. >> Yeah. So, I put my hands up and I'm >> Yeah. So, I put my hands up and I'm >> Yeah. So, I put my hands up and I'm like, I'm I'm innocent. Like, please like, I'm I'm innocent. Like, please like, I'm I'm innocent. Like, please don't shoot me again. They got us out of don't shoot me again. They got us out of don't shoot me again. They got us out of the house, got me into a ambulance, and the house, got me into a ambulance, and the house, got me into a ambulance, and off to the hospital. off to the hospital. off to the hospital. >> After more than 40 hours of sheer hell, >> After more than 40 hours of sheer hell, >> After more than 40 hours of sheer hell, Nicholas and Anie are reunited with Nicholas and Anie are reunited with Nicholas and Anie are reunited with their families. their families. their families. I just remember seeing both my parents I just remember seeing both my parents I just remember seeing both my parents and more specifically my father. He just and more specifically my father. He just and more specifically my father. He just came over to me and the stretcher and came over to me and the stretcher and came over to me and the stretcher and stuff and he was like, you know, you're stuff and he was like, you know, you're stuff and he was like, you know, you're safe now and and you're going to be all safe now and and you're going to be all safe now and and you're going to be all right. right. right. >> Nicholas spent the next 25 days in >> Nicholas spent the next 25 days in >> Nicholas spent the next 25 days in intensive care. intensive care. intensive care. As the investigation begins, cops find a As the investigation begins, cops find a As the investigation begins, cops find a stomach turnurning video on one of the stomach turnurning video on one of the stomach turnurning video on one of the violent kidnappers cell phones. Again, a violent kidnappers cell phones. Again, a violent kidnappers cell phones. Again, a warning. What you're about to see is warning. What you're about to see is warning. What you're about to see is deeply disturbing. Anie lies bleeding on deeply disturbing. Anie lies bleeding on deeply disturbing. Anie lies bleeding on the floor as the attacker prods and the floor as the attacker prods and the floor as the attacker prods and threatens him with an electric hedge threatens him with an electric hedge threatens him with an electric hedge trimmer. The camera swings right to trimmer. The camera swings right to trimmer. The camera swings right to reveal Nicholas curled up in pain as the reveal Nicholas curled up in pain as the reveal Nicholas curled up in pain as the kidnappers throw slurs and prod his kidnappers throw slurs and prod his kidnappers throw slurs and prod his injured leg.

injured leg. injured leg. >> Look at the work. >> Look at the work. >> Look at the work. I'm in this I'm in this I'm in this >> in this video. >> in this video. >> in this video. >> There's a video >> There's a video >> There's a video >> recording, homie. >> recording, homie. >> recording, homie. >> This going to do when they take four >> This going to do when they take four >> This going to do when they take four pounds from pounds from pounds from >> this right here, >> this right here, >> this right here, >> stupid. >> stupid. >> stupid. >> Look at your boy. >> Look at your boy. >> Look at your boy. >> He ain't got nothing to do. He just >> He ain't got nothing to do. He just >> He ain't got nothing to do. He just start running. start running. start running. >> Shut up. >> Shut up. >> Shut up. >> Shut up. >> Shut up. >> Shut up. >> You run with the >> You run with the >> You run with the wrong one. Please check the window. wrong one. Please check the window. wrong one. Please check the window. >> I'll do anything. >> I'll do anything. >> I'll do anything. >> Cops believe the students were rescued >> Cops believe the students were rescued >> Cops believe the students were rescued in the nick of time. The plan really was in the nick of time. The plan really was in the nick of time. The plan really was to basically drain all the bank to basically drain all the bank to basically drain all the bank accounts. Nico had a pretty good uh sum accounts. Nico had a pretty good uh sum accounts. Nico had a pretty good uh sum of money. What the bad guys didn't know of money. What the bad guys didn't know of money. What the bad guys didn't know is you can't access those funds on the is you can't access those funds on the is you can't access those funds on the weekend. So, they were waiting until weekend. So, they were waiting until weekend. So, they were waiting until 8:00 in the morning when they could 8:00 in the morning when they could 8:00 in the morning when they could actually access those accounts. And I'm actually access those accounts. And I'm actually access those accounts. And I'm sure once they did that, they probably sure once they did that, they probably sure once they did that, they probably would have uh killed them. would have uh killed them. would have uh killed them. >> A month later, all of the perpetrators >> A month later, all of the perpetrators >> A month later, all of the perpetrators are in custody. An unbelievable nine in are in custody. An unbelievable nine in are in custody. An unbelievable nine in total, five men and four women. I kind total, five men and four women. I kind total, five men and four women. I kind of always thought of women as like of always thought of women as like of always thought of women as like harmless individuals that couldn't hurt harmless individuals that couldn't hurt harmless individuals that couldn't hurt a fly.

a fly. a fly. >> I know exactly what you mean. When I was >> I know exactly what you mean. When I was >> I know exactly what you mean. When I was kidnapped, the night I was kidnapped, I kidnapped, the night I was kidnapped, I kidnapped, the night I was kidnapped, I was terrified. I remember when I heard was terrified. I remember when I heard was terrified. I remember when I heard the woman's voice and I remember the woman's voice and I remember the woman's voice and I remember thinking, "It's going to be okay. It's thinking, "It's going to be okay. It's thinking, "It's going to be okay. It's going to be all right. There's a woman going to be all right. There's a woman going to be all right. There's a woman there." Like, there." Like, there." Like, >> nothing that bad can happen. Sometimes I >> nothing that bad can happen. Sometimes I >> nothing that bad can happen. Sometimes I wondered if maybe she was worse than he wondered if maybe she was worse than he wondered if maybe she was worse than he was. was. was. Monroe County District Attorney Sandra Monroe County District Attorney Sandra Monroe County District Attorney Sandra Durley says the case was like no other Durley says the case was like no other Durley says the case was like no other and deserved special attention. and deserved special attention. and deserved special attention. >> I knew that it was going to be >> I knew that it was going to be >> I knew that it was going to be high-profile and it affected a lot of high-profile and it affected a lot of high-profile and it affected a lot of people in this community personally. So, people in this community personally. So, people in this community personally. So, I really wanted to make sure that my I really wanted to make sure that my I really wanted to make sure that my best people were on it. best people were on it. best people were on it. >> This case is a lot of things. It's >> This case is a lot of things. It's >> This case is a lot of things. It's tragic, sad, but what it certainly is is tragic, sad, but what it certainly is is tragic, sad, but what it certainly is is is just disgusting. is just disgusting. is just disgusting. Of the nefarious nine, five end up Of the nefarious nine, five end up Of the nefarious nine, five end up taking plea deals, including Samantha taking plea deals, including Samantha taking plea deals, including Samantha Hughes and Leah Giuliotti, the women who Hughes and Leah Giuliotti, the women who Hughes and Leah Giuliotti, the women who lured Nicholas and Anie to the house lured Nicholas and Anie to the house lured Nicholas and Anie to the house that night. The five received sentences that night. The five received sentences that night. The five received sentences of 13 to 35 years in prison. The other of 13 to 35 years in prison. The other of 13 to 35 years in prison. The other four take their chances at trial. The four take their chances at trial. The four take their chances at trial. The evidence was overwhelming. As Christine evidence was overwhelming. As Christine evidence was overwhelming. As Christine and I, you know, got ready for this and I, you know, got ready for this and I, you know, got ready for this trial. It was harder to figure out what trial. It was harder to figure out what trial. It was harder to figure out what we weren't going to use than it was to we weren't going to use than it was to we weren't going to use than it was to figure out what we were going to use.

figure out what we were going to use. figure out what we were going to use. There was just that much. There was just that much. There was just that much. >> But there was one key piece of evidence >> But there was one key piece of evidence >> But there was one key piece of evidence the jurors would see. the jurors would see. the jurors would see. >> The cell phone video was was clearly in >> The cell phone video was was clearly in >> The cell phone video was was clearly in my opinion the most essential piece of my opinion the most essential piece of my opinion the most essential piece of evidence and and perhaps yes, the also evidence and and perhaps yes, the also evidence and and perhaps yes, the also the most damning as well. Essentially the most damning as well. Essentially the most damning as well. Essentially showed 30 seconds of torture. And and showed 30 seconds of torture. And and showed 30 seconds of torture. And and when you put that in perspective, that when you put that in perspective, that when you put that in perspective, that was only 30 seconds out of almost 40 was only 30 seconds out of almost 40 was only 30 seconds out of almost 40 hours. So you can only imagine what they hours. So you can only imagine what they hours. So you can only imagine what they went through during the other 39 hours went through during the other 39 hours went through during the other 39 hours and change. and change. and change. >> Anie and Nicholas, who both testify >> Anie and Nicholas, who both testify >> Anie and Nicholas, who both testify against their kidnappers, watch that against their kidnappers, watch that against their kidnappers, watch that grotesque video in court. grotesque video in court. grotesque video in court. >> It was terrible to take me back to that >> It was terrible to take me back to that >> It was terrible to take me back to that time and it was just so sickening and time and it was just so sickening and time and it was just so sickening and heartbreaking. heartbreaking. heartbreaking. The ring leader, Lidell Strickland, The ring leader, Lidell Strickland, The ring leader, Lidell Strickland, played a starring role in that video. played a starring role in that video. played a starring role in that video. >> Lidell Strickland was enjoying what was >> Lidell Strickland was enjoying what was >> Lidell Strickland was enjoying what was going on. going on. going on. >> He's also seen in other damning videos >> He's also seen in other damning videos >> He's also seen in other damning videos cops find around town. cops find around town. cops find around town. >> There were just multiple banks all over >> There were just multiple banks all over >> There were just multiple banks all over the city of Rochester that Zidell the city of Rochester that Zidell the city of Rochester that Zidell Strickland was seen using on Nicholas's Strickland was seen using on Nicholas's Strickland was seen using on Nicholas's TDI trade card. It's clearly his face.

TDI trade card. It's clearly his face. TDI trade card. It's clearly his face. Uh, in one video he actually pulls up Uh, in one video he actually pulls up Uh, in one video he actually pulls up still wearing a mask that he was wearing still wearing a mask that he was wearing still wearing a mask that he was wearing during the other cell phone video. during the other cell phone video. during the other cell phone video. >> After a month-long trial, all four >> After a month-long trial, all four >> After a month-long trial, all four defendants are found guilty on all defendants are found guilty on all defendants are found guilty on all counts. Three of the defendants are counts. Three of the defendants are counts. Three of the defendants are sentenced 7 to 15 years. Lidell sentenced 7 to 15 years. Lidell sentenced 7 to 15 years. Lidell Strickland gets 155 years to life. Strickland gets 155 years to life. Strickland gets 155 years to life. >> I feel like for each of these defendants >> I feel like for each of these defendants >> I feel like for each of these defendants and for these victims that justice was and for these victims that justice was and for these victims that justice was served. served. served. Nicholas has filed a $10 million lawsuit Nicholas has filed a $10 million lawsuit Nicholas has filed a $10 million lawsuit against the nine kidnappers. against the nine kidnappers. against the nine kidnappers. But what was the monster's motive for But what was the monster's motive for But what was the monster's motive for perpetrating this horrific crime? It was perpetrating this horrific crime? It was perpetrating this horrific crime? It was not just about money, but revenge. And not just about money, but revenge. And not just about money, but revenge. And in a shocking twist, it turns out the in a shocking twist, it turns out the in a shocking twist, it turns out the kidnappers got the wrong guys. kidnappers got the wrong guys. kidnappers got the wrong guys. >> It was definitely a case of mistaken >> It was definitely a case of mistaken >> It was definitely a case of mistaken identity. identity. identity. >> Mistaken identity. That's right. Cops >> Mistaken identity. That's right. Cops >> Mistaken identity. That's right. Cops say the target was a completely say the target was a completely say the target was a completely different University of Rochester different University of Rochester different University of Rochester football player, Isaiah Smith. Smith, a football player, Isaiah Smith. Smith, a football player, Isaiah Smith. Smith, a star athlete and well-known drug dealer, star athlete and well-known drug dealer, star athlete and well-known drug dealer, found a spare key to Anie and his twin found a spare key to Anie and his twin found a spare key to Anie and his twin brother's apartment. Cops say Isaiah brother's apartment. Cops say Isaiah brother's apartment. Cops say Isaiah Smith then used that apartment to rob Smith then used that apartment to rob Smith then used that apartment to rob Liddell Strickland and his gang of Liddell Strickland and his gang of Liddell Strickland and his gang of thugs. Strickland and company then thugs. Strickland and company then thugs. Strickland and company then wanted revenge, so they told the girls wanted revenge, so they told the girls wanted revenge, so they told the girls to go get the football players who to go get the football players who to go get the football players who ripped them off.

ripped them off. ripped them off. >> The drug dealers when they came back >> The drug dealers when they came back >> The drug dealers when they came back were looking for the people who lived in were looking for the people who lived in were looking for the people who lived in that apartment, not realizing that uh that apartment, not realizing that uh that apartment, not realizing that uh they were it was just being used by they were it was just being used by they were it was just being used by somebody else. So, it was it was somebody else. So, it was it was somebody else. So, it was it was definitely a case of mistaken identity. definitely a case of mistaken identity. definitely a case of mistaken identity. >> It's appalling. >> It's appalling. >> It's appalling. >> Yeah. I mean, it's >> Yeah. I mean, it's >> Yeah. I mean, it's >> totally unbelievable and it's >> totally unbelievable and it's >> totally unbelievable and it's >> unacceptable. >> unacceptable. >> unacceptable. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But Nicholas says there's more to the >> But Nicholas says there's more to the >> But Nicholas says there's more to the story and is holding the University of story and is holding the University of story and is holding the University of Rochester responsible. He says after Rochester responsible. He says after Rochester responsible. He says after Isaiah Smith was arrested, football Isaiah Smith was arrested, football Isaiah Smith was arrested, football coaches bailed Smith out of jail, then coaches bailed Smith out of jail, then coaches bailed Smith out of jail, then failed to inform the student body of the failed to inform the student body of the failed to inform the student body of the severity of the crime. All in an attempt severity of the crime. All in an attempt severity of the crime. All in an attempt to give the star athlete preferential to give the star athlete preferential to give the star athlete preferential treatment. treatment. treatment. >> The university was just completely >> The university was just completely >> The university was just completely negligent in what they did. My life was negligent in what they did. My life was negligent in what they did. My life was put in jeopardy on numerous occasions put in jeopardy on numerous occasions put in jeopardy on numerous occasions all because of, you know, Isaiah getting all because of, you know, Isaiah getting all because of, you know, Isaiah getting bailed out and poor decision-m on many bailed out and poor decision-m on many bailed out and poor decision-m on many university officials. university officials. university officials. >> Nicholas plans to file a civil suit >> Nicholas plans to file a civil suit >> Nicholas plans to file a civil suit against the University of Rochester. We against the University of Rochester. We against the University of Rochester. We contacted the University of Rochester contacted the University of Rochester contacted the University of Rochester and it responded in part, "We disagree and it responded in part, "We disagree and it responded in part, "We disagree with Mr. Kas's assertions, but we with Mr. Kas's assertions, but we with Mr. Kas's assertions, but we continue to wish him the best as he continue to wish him the best as he continue to wish him the best as he moves forward after this traumatic moves forward after this traumatic moves forward after this traumatic experience." Sadly, Nicholas and Anie experience." Sadly, Nicholas and Anie experience." Sadly, Nicholas and Anie are no longer friends. He says during are no longer friends. He says during are no longer friends. He says during their 40hour ordeal, he received more of their 40hour ordeal, he received more of their 40hour ordeal, he received more of the abuse than Anie did, and he thinks the abuse than Anie did, and he thinks the abuse than Anie did, and he thinks he knows why. I just feel like with

he knows why. I just feel like with he knows why. I just feel like with everything that happened, I I feel like everything that happened, I I feel like everything that happened, I I feel like he he had more to do with it than he he he had more to do with it than he he he had more to do with it than he will ever admit. I was the one that got will ever admit. I was the one that got will ever admit. I was the one that got majority of all of the beating and majority of all of the beating and majority of all of the beating and abuse. And so, you know, it was just not abuse. And so, you know, it was just not abuse. And so, you know, it was just not not a good experience to have someone not a good experience to have someone not a good experience to have someone who you thought you could trust and just who you thought you could trust and just who you thought you could trust and just kind of being the complete opposite to kind of being the complete opposite to kind of being the complete opposite to you. you. you. We reached out to Anie for comment, but We reached out to Anie for comment, but We reached out to Anie for comment, but he never responded. There was no he never responded. There was no he never responded. There was no evidence presented at trial that Anie evidence presented at trial that Anie evidence presented at trial that Anie was in any way involved in planning or was in any way involved in planning or was in any way involved in planning or carrying out the kidnapping. Aniiki Wu carrying out the kidnapping. Aniiki Wu carrying out the kidnapping. Aniiki Wu has never been considered anything other has never been considered anything other has never been considered anything other than a victim. than a victim. than a victim. Nicholas is now trying to move on with Nicholas is now trying to move on with Nicholas is now trying to move on with his life. He says although the nightmare his life. He says although the nightmare his life. He says although the nightmare he survived will never leave him, he's he survived will never leave him, he's he survived will never leave him, he's working hard to not let it define him. working hard to not let it define him. working hard to not let it define him. people who survive very violent crimes.

people who survive very violent crimes. people who survive very violent crimes. Yes, it's it's a miracle. It's Yes, it's it's a miracle. It's Yes, it's it's a miracle. It's miraculous that we're here, but I don't miraculous that we're here, but I don't miraculous that we're here, but I don't think people realize that sometimes think people realize that sometimes think people realize that sometimes surviving is harder. surviving is harder. surviving is harder. >> No, I I couldn't agree more. I mean, >> No, I I couldn't agree more. I mean, >> No, I I couldn't agree more. I mean, it's not easy. You know, for me, I have it's not easy. You know, for me, I have it's not easy. You know, for me, I have always said that I don't want this to always said that I don't want this to always said that I don't want this to hold me back. I don't want this to, you hold me back. I don't want this to, you hold me back. I don't want this to, you know, label me. I'm not going to let know, label me. I'm not going to let know, label me. I'm not going to let these individuals these individuals these individuals mess up the rest of my life. And so mess up the rest of my life. And so mess up the rest of my life. And so that's why I'm trying to be optimistic that's why I'm trying to be optimistic that's why I'm trying to be optimistic and just positive and move forward in and just positive and move forward in and just positive and move forward in the best way that I can.